because this dude has outgrown the R&B thread
― bron paul (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 March 2012 07:06 (twelve years ago) link
new ep is fantastic. 'adorn' and 'gravity' are immediately brilliant but 'that i do' has also really grown on me. i only really remember loving 'sure thing' and 'all i want is you' from the album last year but this has made me wanna relisten.
― bass, Sunday, 4 March 2012 11:29 (twelve years ago) link
I've come to the opinion that "Quickie" is the best single from the debut
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i love the new EP, this after "all i want is you" and "sure thing" were basically my favorite r&b songs of the past 2 years. he's making a case for replacing jeremih as my facvorite male r&b singer
― bron paul (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
how big is this dude now I have no sense of scale for pop music anymore
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
genuinely like what I've heard of his
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
"Adorn" is the best song I've heard this year. Thanks Rev!
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, March 4, 2012 12:46 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark
"sure thing" was the #1 song on u.s. urban radio last year and his song w/ wale brings his total of big r&b hits to 4, but he hasn't crossed over to pop audiences at all, even to the moderate extent of trey songz or whoever
― some dude, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
so sad that adorn is only 2:19 long
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
i guess he's in that weird robin thicke zone of 'non-black r&b singer whose fanbase is predominantly black'
― some dude, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Miguel Jontel Pimentel was born in Los Angeles.[1][2] He is one of two sons born to a Mexican father and an African American mother.[2]
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
oh word, i thought he was just full on hoos is mexican
― some dude, Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:21 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is prob the best part about it!
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
like it ends and I'm all "what a good song that was"
what a good post that was
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
I grew up w/ indian parents who only listened to indian music but since I grew up in new orleans they also listened to a lot of aaron neville and only nevilee (????) and I think there is something nevilleish abt this that I really appreciate
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 4 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
didn't mean to spell him wrong the second time
"that i do" is incredible
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 March 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
"gravity" is my favourite on the EP i think
"adorn" hasn't clicked with me yet, i think with these reedy-voiced guys like miguel and jeremih, i find myself either falling head over heels with songs where some alchemy makes them sound perfect ("sure thing", "birthday sex", "imma star") or i'm left a bit cold.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
the production doesn't grab you?
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think anything on the EP touches "adorn" but that's the single of the year so far, so no biggie
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
it's nice? it might sneak up on me in time.
it's not the single of the year, it's not even the r&b single of the year lol
― lex pretend, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
*shrug*
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
yah "adorn" is my favorite song this year too i think. out of the 20 i've heard at least
― bron paul (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:24 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark
haven't heard it yet but aren't there only like 2 other songs on the EP? 'best of three' is kind of...anyway "Adorn" is nice but i have absolutely no idea how it's in any way different from or better than anything off the first album.
― some dude, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not saying that it is! just that it's the best song i've heard this year
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
"gravity" is really good too
al you don't see how "adorn" is stylistically different than like, "sure thing"?
― bron paul (k3vin k.), Monday, 5 March 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
you just gotta vibe to adorn, dude
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 5 March 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
i vibe to it, but i also vibe to his whole album.
at this point he's only got a fairly small number of songs out that are all good to great and none too similar to each other. so "adorn" is unique but of a piece of that body of work just as "sure thing" is. its brevity is the only thing i see as any kind of departure.
― some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
I need to check out this ep. Thanks
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
So I found this 2005 12-inch in a dollar bin a year and a half ago, and I bought it on the off chance it was the same Miguel. Turns out it was. The song is very much a product of its time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC0JalDPiqI
― Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
just went on Spotify to see if they had the new EP, they don't, but they do have a single he apparently released in 2011 called "Strawberry Amazing," which i had never heard anything about before, pretty good, very lo-fi Prince
something i noticed on the Art Dealer Chic liner notes -- Miguel self-produced the whole thing (except for one co-production from Fisticuffs, who did "Quickie" and "Girls Like You"). afaik Miguel didn't really do any of the production on the first album, so it looks like he's really stepping up and getting more involved in that side of things.
― some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
"Strawberry Amazing" was on his 2008's Mischief, too, and he co-produced that entire mixtape with Fisticuffs. That mixtape was super lo-fi; it sounds like he recorded it with a Casio and a boombox, but you can definitely hear a lot of echoes of the new EP in it.
― Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really feel like the Jive album sanded off the edges of that aesthetic much at all, give or take a few of the more established producers' contributions
― some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I agree. When I first heard the Jive album, I was actually surprised by how low-budget it sounded at times, especially the Fisticuffs productions. Because it came out so quietly at the time (this was before "Sure Thing" had any legs) I was wondering if Jive had cut corners and were just trying to bury the album. It definitely took a few listens for some of the more muffled production to make sense.
― Evan R, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of think of that hazy, reverbed vibe as the album's distinguishing characteristic. Gives it a very warm, intimate feel. Although a lot of that is down to Miguel himself, too.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
like Strawberry Amazing but always hear a little Lenny Kravitz :/
― bnw, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:24 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
'adorn' is great but the single of the year so far is obv 'climax'
― flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
"Climax" hasn't really hit me yet. I'm an "Adorn" partisan.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
wanna say "dayo otm", but i guess i got something to listen to when i get home
― meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
My ex is friends w his little brother lol. Apparently he sings too tho not professionally afaik
I like miguel. Sure thing was never my thing but he has a great voice and feels like a genuine original
― D-40, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think EZsnappin nailed it on tumblr where he said "Adorn" sounds like early-80s Marvin. The greater trick though, is that he achieves that vibe without any air of tribute or homage.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
ban dayo
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
"adorn" is so killing me atm
― meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 05:27 (twelve years ago) link
i agree with dayo that "climax" is better than "adorn"
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link
"Adorn" makes me think of Prince fwiw
― D-40, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:16 (twelve years ago) link
it makes me think of Prince less than 80% of his material but he definitely wrote it in part because he couldn't write another song called "Adore"
― some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:51 (twelve years ago) link
nbd, just a cross between marvin gaye & prince
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:41 (twelve years ago) link
vol 2, tomorrow
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
my neighbors always know when I come home because I bump adorn 4 times
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
^____^
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.rap-up.com/2012/03/27/new-music-miguel-art-dealer-chic-vol-2-ep/
― Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
haha i d/led it from miguel's site which requires you to fill out a non-optional "Hopes and Dreams" box to download lololol smh
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
I think I like "Arch n Point" even more than "Adorn"! This is sooooooooooo good... even on my shitty laptop speakers it just sounds fantastic
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link
"Broads" is a tad wacky
― Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it's just terrible. Like, delete-from-iTunes bad.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
god damn "arch n point"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I'm unchecking 'broads'
― dayo, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
I love how fucking LOUD "Arch n Point" is... that guitar!
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
wow, "...all" might be better?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
"arch n point" could def be a trey songz album track, but like 10x better
man, "...all" is almost threatening to be organ house
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
this shit bangs
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i think "...all" might be my favorite from this one
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
Didn't realize we had a Miguel thread! Although in retrospect, duh.
Vol. 2 > Vol. 1 I think, although Adorn >>>> all the other tracks from the project.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
naw, i think (although my opinion on this might change) "gravity" > any of the tracks on vol 2 also
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
yeah listened to volume 2 today and nothing stuck with me at all really, kinda disappointed
but then went back and listened to vol 1, all i want is you, and mischief, so all is good. i seriously slept on all i want is you for so long
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda wonder how many people on this thread are still sleeping on all i want is you
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
did you ever come around on the title track?
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't know about Mischief, d/ling that now.
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i came around on the title track, although the salaam remi stuff on the album is still generally my least favorite
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
mischeif is not mindblowing or anything, miguel's voice is obviosly the main draw but the production's not great and the songwriting isn't nearly as strong as his recent work
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
oh word
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
There are small, scattered moments on Mischief where everything clicks and its like, "oh right, I love this guy." I've gotten a ton of writing done to that mixtape over the last couple of years; it's good background music that still kind of jams
― Evan R, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
I just still can't believe that he did the hooks on that Blu & Exile album from back in 2007.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
saying "gravity" is the best thing off these tapes is clinically insane
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
you are underrating "gravity", which is amazing, but i don't think anyone said that
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i misread you
i'd still rate them as adorn > ...all > arch n point > gravity
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
the thick bassline + the harmonies on the "shoo-di-doo da-di-da da-di-da-dah" chorus >>>>>>
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
'broads' is cute enough, what's the big problem
haven't heard his very earliest stuff but at least on all i want is you there was a clear pharrell/nerd vibe going and 'broads' is just some more of that writ a little too large. can't pretend it's not there though
i'd even argue you can make a case for still being able to hear trace elements of it in the new good widescreen stuff too really, but then i guess your imagination would need to stretch to what a decent latter-era nerd song would sound like
in any case it's true what rev says about miguel's elision of "any air of tribute or homage" whoever he may happen to sound like - a very nice trick to have
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
agree with this.
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
don't really hear the pharrell/nerd thing at all tho
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
Broads is pretty catchy and all. I just don't see myself listening to it again
― Number None, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:09 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark
was also thinking he has this really great way with harmonies that beautifully tie kinda meandering or seemingly disparate or just idk unresolved songs together - 'gravity', 'adorn' and 'sure thing' only truly become sure things once it happens
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
think i already said this last year but from 2:25 on 'girls like you' is nerd chapter & verse no question at least - and that's no huge leap from 'broads' really. the more intuitive stuff from then on i'm not gonna harp on about tho cos it's not like i really want to think of him in pharrellian terms that much either - just saying it's a strand in the dna is all
― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, his way with harmony is n/l
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
i'll get back to you about "girls like you"
there is TOTALLY a pharrell vibe and i never thought i'd say that about an R&B singer i wasn't trying to insult
― some dude, Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
no thoughts on this yet but glad r|t|c is back missed ur posts bro http://i.imgur.com/gDeUg.gif
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah web boo
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
er, wb
lol
http://i.imgur.com/Rlj7m.gif
― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
"yeah web boo" cracking me up so much
http://mediamrs.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lil-boosie-webbie.jpg
― some dude, Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
"...all" is the standout track imo
― dayo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
relistened to "Girls Like You" and i still dgi. Miguel as a singer sounds effortless, whereas Pharrell, even at his best, sounds labored, and his backing tracks are very loose, whereas the Neptures were always about hyperprecision. Even their more ramshackle moments sound pointedly so, like they made absolutely sure that bongo was just exactly that much offbeat.
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
you're overthinking it
― some dude, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
I just don't hear it at all!
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
not even on a superficial level
you're listening hard to the singing and the production style when we're referring more broadly to the overall vibe. the 'beautiful girls, intelligent girls, i hate ya' part definitely could've come out of a nerd song.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 March 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
ok ok, i gotcha now
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
"gravity" is the best thing off these tapes. it's all about the overlapping shoo-be-doos and ba-ba-bas at the end. i also prefer vol 2 to vol 1, "...all" is stunning.
just don't get what you all see in "adorn", i can never remember a single thing about it after it ends.
gravity > ...all > arch & point >>>>>>>>> adorn > that i do > broads
― lex pretend, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:03 (twelve years ago) link
i can never remember a single thing about it after it ends.
Funny, this is how I feel about Gravity.
Adorn > ...ALL > Arch N Point >>>>>>>>> Gravity > That I Do > Broads
(erhm... so there!)
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 March 2012 09:20 (twelve years ago) link
But I like everything on these tapes, really. They're great on the whole!
oh man every time i listen to volume 1 i'm like "i love 'that i do' so much"
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
It speaks to the quality of these EPs that there's no consensus whatsoever on which tracks are the best.
― Evan R, Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
And as much as I'm enjoying receiving these songs in drops, I can't wait to glue them together into a nine-song album.
― Evan R, Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
"Broads" is horrible. Only dud thus far.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
this is how I feel about all the songs I love best, like you can't remember a thing except that you really like it so you play the song again.. I remember having this same feeling about 'umbrella'
― dayo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
"adorn"'s main charm is its warm, woozy atmosphere and miguel's meandering falsetto; more than a song built almost entirely around hooks like "umbrella" i can understand how it'd be "forgettable" after a first listen, even if that's not necessarily a point against it
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
have described "adorn" to other people as "sexual healing pt. 2"
don't know how accurate that is but there's something in the ease of the delivery, in the airiness of the backing track
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:53 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think that's true of every ep song except 'adorn' - yeah it seems like it's got the rarefied atmosphere but that monster 808 bass over the shuffling vox sample drives that frailness on and on, the awesome pure monolith of choral harmony proves his devotion with complete certainty. and the absolute confidence in just the sheer brevity of it! very different to, very similar to, on a par with, and about as forgettable as 'promise' imho. the dude fucking nailed it
― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
by which i mean not remotely forgettable obv
(seriously my ipod headphones were broken for like a week after it came out and i literally CRAVED to hear it all day til i got back home)
― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
I listened to "Adorn" about 30 times in a row when it dropped and I never do that.
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
I just listened to it like 5 right now
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/39375791
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
'adorn' is full of hooks btw
― dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
'gravity' is my least fav track I think. not a fan of 'dirty basslines' in general
― dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
did not like 'all i want is you' that much either
also his new scruffy facial hair look is ... nagl
― dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
nagl haaawt
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
ha I prefer futuristic space streamlined miguel
― dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:32 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah sure but they're kind of purposefully obscured, that was my point
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
great, revelatory rtc post as usual
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
the sure thing look was v weird and not flattering imo
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
and hilarious
― some dude, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
true
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
he did look very smashable like this tho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt3QLI3XYtk
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
dirty basslines are the best thing in music
"adorn" is one of those things you crave or you don't i guess, i've made myself listen to it a ton to try to get what you all hear it but i'm not feeling any craving :(
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
one trusts u are not listening to it thru lappy speakers?
― r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link
total craving at this end.
― Tim F, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link
nope normal speakers though it doesn't sound quite...mastered?
there's an aqueous synth throughout that i don't particularly like, it doesn't sound quite in tune
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link
just relistening again and omg "gravity" is SO MUCH BETTER i can't believe i'm the only one who thinks that. those backing vox>>>>>>
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
i just finished listening to "adorn" again and i couldn't sing any of it if you asked.
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
and that moment where he hits that note for one second and everything drops out and THEN he sings "i'm just a shooting star" <3
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago) link
THEEESE LIPS drrm drmm drmm drmm
― r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link
no doubt 'gravity' is really really good but it's also the most predictable by far of the ep songs and thus the least rewarding in comparison. harshly speaking it's kind of the general step-up from the first album you expected rather than the quantum leap you get with the rest
like i know this'll be just me but i'd even go so far as to say i'm more interested in listening to 'broads' again to gauge its wonky badness than i am 'gravity'
― r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:05 (twelve years ago) link
do people like "That I Do"? Doesn't do much for me
― Number None, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:06 (twelve years ago) link
xp also i don't actually know what the plan is for these songs but i will be more favourable to 'gravity' should it to appear on an album as part of some flow rather than assessing it just on its jones
― r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:08 (twelve years ago) link
'Gravity' totally reminds of Neptunes, especially in their more N.E.R.D. rock guise, the intro's real Pharrell-styles. I'm being too harsh to say it's a forgettable track, but it just leaves me a bit cold emotionally.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:16 (twelve years ago) link
i guess i'm not actually that convinced by miguel when he's not being somewhat predictable and generic yet - i find the whole "art dealer chic" concept slightly try-hard, i still think the last album is just "sure thing" + varying degrees of okay-ness and i think of him as someone who can turn well-worn tricks into magic rather than blow my mind with new tricks
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link
"Quickie" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. "Sure Thing"
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link
(I make no friends)
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:39 (twelve years ago) link
"That I Do" seems like the least memorable of these songs. I am really taken with "Arch & Point" right now.
The tryhardness of the Art Dealer Chic concept really has no bearing on the quality of these songs whatsoever. Miguel has quite simply transcended his pretensions, whatever they may be.
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:41 (twelve years ago) link
"that i do" is really busy-sounding but it's totally great to listen to while you're like walking around somewhere
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 30 March 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
what does he even think is so chic about art dealers, idgi
― r|t|c, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link
it's a signifier of new wealth innit
― dayo, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:20 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not even so sure he doesn't mean "art dealer chick" tbh
― some dude, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
art dealer sheik
― johnny crunch, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
i still think the last album is just "sure thing" + varying degrees of okay-ness and i think of him as someone who can turn well-worn tricks into magic rather than blow my mind with new tricks
I think the package itself is something new. What sets Miguel apart from every popular R&B singer is he attempts something new, different or just a little bizarre with literally every track. Most singers take some risks, of course, but for him they're the foundation of what he does. He's really defined by his restlessness.
― Evan R, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
what are these new, different and bizarre things? assuming you don't mean the art dealer shtick.
what i loved about "sure thing", and what i love about miguel when i do love him, is that he does songs that you can imagine anyone doing, but no one pulling off quite like him.
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
Listening to "Adorn" and "Gravity" again just now and I realized my love for "Adorn" is greater because I prefer Marvin Gaye homage over Bilal homage.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
what i love about miguel when i do love him, is that he does songs that you can imagine anyone doing, but no one pulling off quite like him.
I really can't imagine a Trey Songz or a Chris Brown doing "Adorn" or "Arch N Point" or even "Gravity." Miguel owns his aesthetic in a way those singers don't.
― Evan R, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but what do you think his aesthetic is? specifically? i can certainly hear trey songz doing "arch & point". bobby valentino too. omarion's "forgot about love" was something i tended to file next to miguel too.
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
In a word, "exotic," maybe. Synths that are a little more warped or muffled than you typically hear; tempos that are just a little bit off; song structures that are a little more tightly knotted than the norm (he packs five minutes worth of song into three); guitars and riffs that are strikingly loud. He's not re-writing the book every time, but he's always tweaking it.
― Evan R, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
And, come on, there's nothing in Bobby Valentino's catalog remotely like "Arch N Point." Just on blunt, first-impression sonics alone, you really can't hear the difference between Miguel and boilerplate Bobby?
― Evan R, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
dog what are you even
― Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
"rearview (ridin')"? that sounds more out-there than anything miguel's done. though all of the things you describe are actually the things i dislike about the art dealer songs and had previously attributed to bad mastering or whatever - the rhythms don't always fit the songs, some of the synths make me feel queasy and elements that are too loud just sound like ass.
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
Just listened to these after mostly ignoring this guy (thought "quickie" was gross), and they're indeed pretty terrific. Great production, great singing.
"Broads" is kinda cute if it's meant to be a joke (which I think it is) but if not its pretty repulsive.
― Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
i can't wait to get my whole fucking team on
― dayo, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zLh5eR7wAo
o_O
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 April 2012 07:57 (twelve years ago) link
so no vol 3 today, eh?
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
ha i just checked the site an hour ago and saw there was only a 'coming soon' page for it
― ✧✧✧✧✧✧@are.forever (some dude), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
I'm always amazed when shit like this actually does come out on time
― Evan R, Friday, 27 April 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
I'm a bigger stan for "Arch & Point" than for "Sure Thing" at this point.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
i'd like to get angry about this sorta thing but i have no leg to stand on when it comes to doing things on time, so...
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure it's more a matter of some intern hitting 'publish' than miggy in the studio until the wee hours last night trying to get THREE WHOLE SONGS tracked and mixed in time
― ✧✧✧✧✧✧@are.forever (some dude), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
he wanted to make those tracks were sure things
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
CLINK
― ✧✧✧✧✧✧@are.forever (some dude), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.amoureuxauban.net/forum/download/fozzie-bear-waka-waka-i4.jpg
if anything can console me, it's nabisco writing about vols 1 & 2
http://pitchfork.com/features/why-we-fight/8821-why-we-fight/
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
also i think i dig "quickie" more than "sure thing" now... the production on quickie is so great. the way those spindly guitar lines sorta slowly float away, the liveness of the drums. it's all very post-coital.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
i pretty much shake my first at each and every notion that anything is better than "sure thing" but "quickie" is pretty great, yeah
― ✧✧✧✧✧✧@are.forever (some dude), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
that whole album, man. "hard way" is my fav sleeper cut
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
thx for the nabs link, i'll have to remember to read that
err i meant "teach me". "hard way" is good too tho
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
He said on his twitter vol 3 is coming later today
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
oh dope
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
We're discussing the release of this thing like we're waiting for Papa John's to deliver that large pie.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
going online like "why they gon make that miguel tape?"
― some dude, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
miguel just seems very cool & nice!
https://twitter.com/#!/MiguelUnlimited/status/195932768054673408
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 April 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
abebe chic
― some dude, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
what is he referring to?
― bnw, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
i have been on the internet too much today
― rob, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.zshare.ma/4jtllbl1rnn9
― tundra, Saturday, 28 April 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
^ vol3 if it wasnt clear
― tundra, Saturday, 28 April 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link
thank you!
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
thanks!
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
digging it
― dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
yea 'party life' is p good. feel like it'd serve for some p killer remixes
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 April 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
"ooh ahh" is old tho :(
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 April 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
Weakest of the three, though that's not really an insult
― Evan R, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah - I find it to be the most even though, like all three songs mesh and flow better than the other two EPs
― dayo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
though arch n point -> ...all is the best 1-2 combo
Yes. "Candles in the Sun" drifts; it's as if he wants to sound like the Gaye of Here, My Dear without having thought through how to realize his political pretensions.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
It seems a little odd he choose the 3x-free EP format, since he doesn't seem like a very prolific songwriter. Seems to record at a slow pace, and he sometimes recycles songs ("Strawberry Amazing" as a single; "Ooh Ahh.") I don't mind, since those are good songs and he's perfecting them, I just don't want the new album (if there is one) to be the other songs from Mischief
― Evan R, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
guys
I can't get "Arch & Point" out of my head.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
what order is this one supposed to be in
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
is ooh ahh from an old mixtape
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
the tracks are numbered, no?
― Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
not on my download (which is the official)
mine goes, candle ->ooh ahh -> party life
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
it's the opposite way round
― Number None, Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
that's backwards
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Saturday, April 28, 2012 5:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's from mischief, yeah
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
is it the same version or rerecorded?
i'm not sure, i had a 7 minute car ride this morning and skipping after th first minute of that gave me time to finish the last song , ha
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
Love the new EP, great series!
(except for 'Broads', which I have deleted)
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 29 April 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link
Finally listening to all these, loving it so far.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
incidentally have we covered what "That I Do (FTRMX)" is exactly, is there an original non-remix version that's been out there since before the EP?
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:27 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark
wouldn't make it the ideal format for him? trickling out 9 or fewer new songs between albums would make more sense than splattering out a couple of 50-minute mixtapes or a weekly series
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
xpost -- I was going to ask that, that and "...All" are my favorites so far.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
i almost want to start a poll but i would feel bad about the slightly overrated "Adorn" crushing everything else
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think it's a sure thing that adorn would triumph over all the others
― dayo, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
dude have you seen some of the hyperbole itt about that song
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
ha I was going to start a poll last night. I may yet.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
"Adorn" will not top my list.
Who is that at the end of "Candles" anyway, I kinda stupidly assume Lennon but I'm not sure.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
it is Lennon
― Number None, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, April 30, 2012 10:44 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
most of it came before vol. 2 dropped tho
― dayo, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there has been more hyperbole about "Broads" lately, i suppose
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
you're right, def think 'broads' would walk a poll
― dayo, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
"Broads" is the only one I deleted.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
dayo we gotta be careful about shooting sarcasm lasers simultaneously, don't cross the streams
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
bite your head off, man
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
ships do you wanna do like a "x > y >>> z" format top 5 breakdown on ur miggy faves so i know where ur coming from exactly
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
or do the poll and do it there, w/e
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
a) top 5 of ADC or all his stuff? b) where i'm coming from about his music in general or where i'm coming from with some particular post itt?
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
all his stuff, i guess i was mainly thinking about how far you'd rate 'sure thing' above the newer stuff (i assumed you would) but then wanting to know how overrated you see 'adorn' as being in adc's context
(obv number of arrows is not really a proper metric but we'll be here all day otherwise)
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
deleting songs off releases is still scarcely conceivable savagery to me btw, does everyone really do that
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
still kinda feeling out the ADC stuff because from one listen to the next one song might sound great and another drab or tacky and then on the next listen they switch places. to be clear "Adorn" is def one of the better new songs, just think the SINGLE OF THE YEAR talk is a bit over the top.
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't delete "broads" but i did uncheck it
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
i never delete songs (whole albums to make room sometimes, but never individual songs). i don't even skip tracks if i'm going through an album in non-shuffle mode.
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
just think the SINGLE OF THE YEAR talk is a bit over the top.
this is ILM
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
well i mean, better "Adorn" than the new Bieber, but still
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
ftr "adorn" is still my favorite song this year -- or at least my most listened to
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
actually that's not true, it's behind a grimes album track
is vol 3 meant to be the last ADC?
it's aight but like the others i'm not really...enraptured. something seems off with the sound, it's like i'm listening to it through a drainpipe or something
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
smh j0rdan
can't get behind Vol. 3 either. It sounds tentative; he's trying sounds and lyrical ideas that aren't realized.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny, you'd think that releasing music in 3-song sets would at least ensure that nothing is disposable but on each of these there's one song i don't particularly care about hearing again
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
and actually across them all only three real keepers for me, and none of those even close to "sure thing"
that assessment of the entire project isn't totally off but i'm willing to overlook a few forgettable tracks on account of three of my absolute favorite songs of the year being included (along with a bunch of good tho not great tracks)
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
idk yeah i don't really ever think in single of the year terms (altho i know it's not 'adorn') but i do believe it has an iconic kinda one-shot calling card quality about it that sets it apart from the equally-good songs it comes with. the brevity is a huge part of it, another couple of minutes and i'd probably rate it behind 'arch n point' and 'all'
re "uncheck", right yeah i was thinking maybe it's an itunes culture kinda thing (i don't really do itunes)
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
hmm well i think the best of these might scrape my top 50 tracks of the year so far. might.
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
I'd rank them in descending order:
Arch n Point...AllAdornGravityParty Up
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
vol.3 is a shade of miguel that i know is in all his stuff but don't really like arranged together quite so pat
bandnames are failing me right now but i guess "sounding like the killers or whatever" will do for starters
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
haha i like the clunky guitar stuff on "ooh ahh"
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
vicious
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
...all > arch & point > gravity >>>>>> the rest, don't really care
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, April 30, 2012 12:14 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've seen a lot of mentions of it being a series of 3, this being the last of the series, etc. although without seeing it in any official pr/interview or anything i'm not really 100% sure.
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
the website makes it seem so -- it's only listed three volumes for weeks
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
personally i think this "shabadoo" backing vocals on "gravity" are kinda corny
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
the*
does the 'vol 3' link on the ADC site still go to vol 2? i had to dl it off the link itt.
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
nah i got an email for vol 3
corny maybe, but at least somewhat memorable
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
as far as overt prince rips go i think "party life" is pretty good -- something about the cadence of his singing strikes me as very accurate but not in an obvious way
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
Not ready to definitively rate or rank these yet. Everything this dude makes has a way of growing on me over time (which is a pretty cool feat given how short and direct so many of his songs are)
― Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
i think in general i'm actually more bullish on vol 3 than the rest of y'all, the more i listen to it. def nothing that tops the titanic tracks on the other 2 vols but i think it's a nice bow on top if you listen to all three straight thru -- a bit of a stylistic pivot but not obviously so... and still idiosyncratic in the little ways that he his. and i guess i think "candles in the sun, blowin in the wind" is being a bit underrated. certainly hamhanded as far as its politics go but i think it's a pretty good tune.
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i like that one a lot
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Thematically and sonically it's of a piece with the call to arms aimed at misfits and outcasts in "...All."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
altho i do deduce a few points for pronouncing "other" like "uhva" as if he was british
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
"adorn" is my most-listened to non-dawn richard (who is in her own league, obv) track this year by more than twice over
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
me too probably. i like most of the other stuff just fine but imo most of "all i want is you" > most of ADC
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
...alll >>>>>>>>> adorn >>> arch and point
― dayo, Monday, 30 April 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
there's always that bit in 'all' with him going "tee-tee tell em how to elevate" where it totally breaks the blippy springsteen vibe picturing him misreading his iphone lyrics
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link
i mean it kinda works actually but still
I know it's a horrific epidemic, but "babies on crack" will never not be unintentionally funny. Any message track that wants to be taken seriously needs to recognize that
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
that opening line's resonance with "Be Thankful for What You Got" really throws me off every time. I assume it's intentional, but him singing "babies on crack" instead of "sunroof top" makes that phrase stick out even more.
― rob, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
this is from evan's ADC review
"arguably the most engaging singles run of any R&B album since Usher’s Confessions."
interesting position imo -- how do we feel about it? i may be inclined to agree w/ it, but that's a long time
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
i agree -- there are probably a couple albums with 3 hits as strong as All/Sure/Quickie, but might be cluttered up with a couple duds too
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
fav post-Confessions R&B singles campaigns: first Ne-Yo album, B'Day, Double Up, first 2 Keyshia Cole albums, BLACKsummers'night, first The-Dream album, first two John Legend albums, Emancipation of Mimi, second Ciara album
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
I was going to say Ne-Yo through Year of the Gentleman, Ciara, and Maxwell myself.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
but none of these guys has excited me like Miguel; I have no idea what shit this guy's gonna do next.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
I should also point out that I don't particularly care for the Confessions period of Usher's career.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
yeah 'love/hate', 'goodies' and 'emanicpation' were my first three thoughts, but i think i'd take the 'all i want is you' trio over mariah, and probably have it tied w/ ciara behind the-dream
'blacksummersnight' is an interesting pick too... i didn't think of it but "pretty wings" and "bad habits" are monsters... i like "fistful of tears" a lot but it doesn't seem on the level of those two
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
"when you're mad is good" but it's kind of a major dip in b/w "so sick" and "sexy love" imo (last of which is my favorite late 90s max martin song that max martin never wrote in the late 90s)
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i love the album itself more than the singles per se, was just spitballing. "Fistful of Tears" came alive for me as a single, though.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
haha want to hear a song called "when you're mad is good"
excuse my sloppy quotations there
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
ha
i LOVE "when you're mad" and think "sexy love" is kind of eh personally
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
man it's weird that they only released two singles off 'rappa ternt sanga', that coulda been in the running imo
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
actually fuck i'd rate the YOTG singles over everything -- "closer" -> "miss independent" -> "mad" was the most exhilarating singles run i can remember... anytime you got in the car was like a race against time before you had to get out and maybe not hear whatever the big ne-yo song of the time was
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
yep
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i thought about 3rd ne-yo too after i posted. love the first two but was never real into the sneezing song.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
"Sexy Love" taught me to love "So Sick." "Because of You" was an even better use of the same template. The only thing that killed the run imo was whatever followed up "Because of You." I can't even remember it.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
"Do You," which yes, was awful.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
huh interesting, sh!p. I'd gladly read a defense of BOY, a worse album than even Libra Scale.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
"Can We Chill" and "Go On Girl" were admirable non-hits, though
wiki says his next album is called The R.E.D. album, which can't be right
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
BOY is actually the only album of his i haven't heard, at the time the singles just disappointed me too much
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
there was a whole thing recently about him announcing that and the game politely responding that he was okay with it
i'm kind of disappointed that he isn't running with the astoundingly bad original title: The Cracks In Mr. Perfect
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
Crack on My B.E.D.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
if i had to do a rough ranking of best three consecutive singles off a post-confessions r&b album i'd go w/
1 year of the gentleman2 love/hate3 goodies4 all i want is you5 blacksummersnight6 chris brown s/t7 basic instinct8 futuresex/love sounds9 thr33 ringz 10 konvicted
? i'm probably forgetting something tho
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
sorta fudging it i think cuz in some places i'm not necessarily counting the best three FIRST singles, but hey
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
I'd thrown in Marsha Ambrosius, although I prefer her album in toto.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh good call
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
lol had to throw in Basic Instinct huh smh
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
The Miguel singles were all great tracks in their own right, but they were also really effective at introducing this new singer; each one revealed a little bit more about his act and persona. Really smart campaign.
So for me it's neck and neck between AIWISY and YOTG, with Goodies and BlackSUMMERSnight a bit behind. Those Ne-Yo singles were just so damn good; that was a singles campaign that really felt that a movement
― Evan R, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
that was a singles campaign that really felt that a movement
yes
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
was that the name of a dipset compilation?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
it really bums me out btw that "Girls Like You" was kind of an afterthought 4th single that got lost in the shuffle of the Art Dealer Chic stuff coming out around the same time, that song is fucking awesome.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
any of the 'art dealer' stuff getting a sniff at radio or any promotion whatsoever? just curious mostly, but it seems like something miguel has been doing on his own
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
afaict no, although MTV Jams does play the "Adorn" video
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder how he's going to present his sexuality, which is ambivalent at best.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
uh have you seen the "quickie" video?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
yep and I've read a few of his press clippings
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
so he's not a girl-crazy horndog in his press clippings i take it?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
The "Arch N Press" video was what got me thinking: his combination of tuffness and feyness, the art direction, the way he presented the ladies.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
isn't that every R&B star and half the rappers out these days though?
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
"arch n press" would be a good jingle for a nail salon
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
nah I get it specifically from him. Usher and Maxwell certainly don't. Ne-Yo -- lol maybe.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
i went and turned our lil spitball discussion into an article
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/05/miguel_singles_best_album_ne_yo.php
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
good one, although you prob didn't need the Maxwell caveat, it's not like anyone really knows or cares that "Cold" was a promotional single in between radio hits
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i was just being a pedant
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
don't think i would've ranked it any higher or lower tho had i included "fistful of tears" instead
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really dig "Sexy Love" or "Mad" so i think my favorite Ne-Yo run is "Stay"/"So Sick"/"When You're Mad" but of course two of those weren't very big hits.
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
v nice j0rdan though i disagree with a few. hadn't realised this discussion happened!
(i'm impressed that you can even untangle what the singles even were for the more recent ones)
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
i was mostly going off wikipedia tbh
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
definitely some interesting choices there...............
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
- i think "cold" is definitely worthy of inclusion in any three-single run from blacksummer'snight- not down with the terius selection but you know i hate "falsetto" - would've chosen "rockin' that shit"/"my love"/"sweat it out" easily (and "my love" is the high point in that) (i'm assuming we can skip "walkin' on the moon" but i like that better than "falsetto" anyway)- i'd have included estelle's "wait a minute"/"american boy"/"no substitute love" (or "come over") myself- think "get up"/"promise"/"like a boy" is pretty unbeatable when it comes to ciara but it's remarkable that THREE of her albums have three-single runs that'd qualify
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
i'm assuming you just classed beyoncé as pop, right?
wikipedia says "honey", "the healer" and "soldier" were singles, also "window seat", "turn me away" and "gone baby, don't be long"
(hang on i don't even believe that last one)
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
ha if JT is R&B then how on earth would Beyonce not be
did "Cold" do well in the UK or something? i never heard it on the radio once and the other 3 were inescapable.
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
i almost put 4 on there but really i'm not the hugest beyonce fan -- i like "b'day" as an album but not overwhelmed by any of the singles
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
the thing about B is that every album has 8 singles out of which only 3 are good so the odds of them all being in a row are slim
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's sorta hard to suss out the badu stuff cuz her radio presence is so minimal, plus those albums seem like such whole pieces to me
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
did "Cold" do well in the UK or something?
haha NONE of these songs did well in the UK
i exaggerate slightly but british listeners have experienced almost none of these singles as singles, esp in latter years
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
although when i mentioned B'Day upthread (in terms of the whole singles campaign, not necessarily 3 in a row), i was thinking of "Ring The Alarm"/"Irreplaceable"/"Get Me Bodied," which you could do some backflips to call a consecutive trio if you throw out the soundtrack song, the deluxe edition-only Shakira collab, and the non-single airplay hit "Upgrade You"
xpost
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
or just include "upgrade u" cuz it's brilliant
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
ha wow maxwell hasn't charted in the uk since the kate bush cover
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
which apparently charted...last month? what? did someone perform it on tv or something?
he hasn't charted properly since his debut, 1997
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
erykah badu hasn't had a charting single here since '97 either
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
hmm yeah that is weird!
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
Damn I was hoping one of you could explain the resurgence of "This Woman's Work." I heard it a ton this winter, and couldn't figure out why
― Evan R, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
apparently the song is a favorite on various reality singer/dance competitions, but that still doesn't explain it. And it was used in the season 6 finale of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia," but that really doesn't explain it, either
― Evan R, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
oh here we go smh
16-year-old Hope Murphy won over the Britain’s Got Talent 2012 judges tonight, with a take on Maxwell hit This Woman’s Work.
The Essex teenager explained to hosts Ant and Dec before her audition: “I’ve been singing since a toddler. I’ve come to Britain’s Got Talent today because it’s my dream to make it worldwide.”
But kicking off with a performance of Jessie J’s Mamma Knows Best, Simon Cowell was immediately left unimpressed.
He moaned: “I’ve heard that song so many times.
“I want to hear something different to whatever anyone else is singing.”
Under pressure, Hope instead performed Maxwell’s cover of Kate Bush classic This Woman’s Work, to a standing ovation.
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
only criminal omission there is b'day obv, but otherwise good job
pissed i missed this debate a few days ago haha
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
btw do you have an equivalent site to this for US chart runs? http://www.polyhex.com/music/chartruns/chartruns.php
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
not that i know of but i sure do hope so!
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
when i saw maxwell, he performed "this woman's work" on one knee backlit by a spotlight, which would have been amazing if not for the fact that the spotlight was pointed straight at my eyes.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha
― Evan R, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
One of the highlights of the winter Trey Songz tour was when one of Songz's backup singers sang that track while Trey was offstage. The crowd went absolutely ape shit when the guy hit those notes
― Evan R, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
One of the highlights of the winter Trey Songz tour was when Trey was offstage
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, yeah, I know. Whole show was great, but I know I'm in the minority opinion here about Trey Songz
― Evan R, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
speaking of trey, i like his new single
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
which one
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah "Heart Attack" is dope
― some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
I could probably make a kick-ass mix of unreleased Trey Songz tracks from the last several years... "When I See You," "Flatline," "For The Sake Of Our Love." Dude probably has nearly a dozen unreleased songs that hold their own against many of his singles
― Evan R, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
xp that one
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
Cool article Jordan! Downloading a couple of these records that I haven't heard. Cheers!
Re: Miguel, can't say that Quickie is my favorite from those singles, but it's an interesting choice :)
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 08:38 (eleven years ago) link
i would most certainly listen to that mix evan
― tundra, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
thank u for this, ilm/j sarge p4k review
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 May 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
"All" might be my fav song off this right now but it was funny today to see an R&B mixtape with it as track 1 with '(HOT!!!)' next to the song title
― Tailpipe Store (some dude), Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
that low sustained moaning coursing through "All" is the best
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
"party life" and "candles in the sun" are just great
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 20 May 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i really love "Candles," works so much more than it has a right to
― judas, a scary ho (some dude), Sunday, 20 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't gooten into any of the tracks on vol. 3 as much as I have "Adorn"/"Gravity"/"Arch N Point"/"All"
― The Reverend, Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
"party life" is cool but not really as amazing as the "arch & point"/"...all" pinnacle of this series
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
"candles..." gets away with what it does but only barely imo
haha otm
― The Reverend, Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
hmmm, i think "party life" just hit me in a big way
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 May 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link
it's kinda sad but i think we're gonna keep on dancing
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 May 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
::swoon::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0yMV8B1v18&feature=related
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNm1kNYbg0o
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
hmmm, he can't really play guitar, can he? the subway station vid was cool tho
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
mike breen is such a republican
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 02:21 (eleven years ago) link
lol that was the wrong thread -_-
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he's wayne-esque on that guitar, but maybe that was a while ago
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 03:53 (eleven years ago) link
his voice is so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3pPBANdfok
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
<3
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
GODFUCKINGDAMMIT MIGUEL do u even know how often i'm there on that platform
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 08:34 (eleven years ago) link
His guitar is just fine on "Arch n Point."
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link
is there any reason to assume that's him playing it? the track was produced by Fisticuffs
― some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
I only think so because they're easy lines and his fingers match the chords.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
alright, looks like he has stepped his guitar game up at least to the level of competence. and covered madvillain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrTpcIeeuCM
― The Reverend, Friday, 1 June 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
where are production credits
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
most of the places where the mixtapes were released have a back cover graphic w/ production credits
― some dude, Friday, 1 June 2012 03:18 (eleven years ago) link
er where the EPs were uploaded i guess
man i'm impressed as hell that he produced "...all" -- that's a pretty damn nuanced take on dance music imo
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 June 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
1.Adorn 02:192.That I Do (FTRMX) 03:113.Gravity 03:38 creditsreleased 27 February 2012All songs written and produced by Miguel"Gravity" co produced by FisticuffsArtwork painted by Miguel
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
he's playing PS.1 warmup lol
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 June 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
"Play some Duchamp, Dilpo!!"― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Sunday, January 8, 2006 2:23 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 June 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
even fucking "Broads" kind of grew on me
― Evan R, Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:42 (eleven years ago) link
haha it's the opposite for me, i only really care about 3-4 songs of this, albeit i REALLY care about those, but that's the same ratio as like the melanie fiona album, which this series isn't actually substantially more interesting than
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, 2 June 2012 06:42 (eleven years ago) link
and the estelle album is way better
and like there are more amazing new nikkiya tracks this year than miguel ones :(
the estelle album is not better
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 07:19 (eleven years ago) link
and neither was that old nikkiya album but i haven't heard the reissue
maybe they're not ~faded~ enough for you but they are definitely more enjoyable to me. just better songs, better production, singers you want to spend more time with...miguel is trying very hard to be an auteur rather than the semi-anonymous guy behind "sure thing" but in the process hasn't remotely come close to "sure thing"s impeccable standard
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, 2 June 2012 07:43 (eleven years ago) link
and i really love "...all" but c'mon FELLOW OUTCASTS! AND WEIRDOS! stfu you try-hard
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, 2 June 2012 07:44 (eleven years ago) link
maybe they're not ~faded~ enough for you
oh fuck off
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 08:26 (eleven years ago) link
also, i do want to spend time with miguel. in bed.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 08:27 (eleven years ago) link
trying to reduce miguel to some tumblr-wave thing is so NAGL.
and he's done at least 5 songs better than "sure thing"
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 08:29 (eleven years ago) link
i'm pretty sure if i was forced to spend time with estelle i'd want to cut my head off in short order.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 08:36 (eleven years ago) link
"sure thing" is great, but so are "adorn", "arch & point", "...all", c'mon. dunno why it always has to be this vs. that, devolve to bickering abt the cultural positioning. weirdo art outcast is no more contrived than any other pop persona.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 June 2012 08:43 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:27 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^
this is pertinent!
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 2 June 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, June 2, 2012 3:43 AM (8 hours ago)
yeah you do not get miguel at all
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Despite the miguel songs I love I think you might be right there
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, 2 June 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
Miguel @MiguelUnlimitedURGENT: I need an artist in NY with experience or technical know-how in mask making. ASAP. @ Me Por favor.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 June 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
― here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
tweets very much in character
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 June 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
"adorn" is now an OFFICIAL SINGLE + a minute longer
will take some time to get used to the new version but his singing at the end is fantastic imo
http://soundcloud.com/miguelofficial/adorn
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
Was just coming to post this. like. FUCK. so good.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
Can we also talk about how the synths riff that emerges just around/after the point where the Art Dealer Chic Vol. 1 version trailed off is very very Prince's "If I Was Ur Girlfriend"?
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
didn't think it was really missing anything before but it definitely feels more complete now, love the bridge xpost
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
Brevity was a big part of Adorn's mystique, but I'm not one to complain about more of a good thing.
One of the blogs I follow shared the track and teased "Bigger news to follow..." which I can only imagine means an album announcement.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
lovely.
this morning "Arch n Point" became my most played 2012 song.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
or *fingers crossed* the launch of a new 'bike messenger chic' social networking site
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
championing fellow fixed gears and beardos
― Evan R, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
or to complain about more of a sure thing
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
literally just clapped my hands to the side of my face and exclaimed "OH MY FUCKING LORD" when I got to the end of the new version
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
why isn't rev one of those people that does youtube reaction videos as he's listening to records for the first time
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
my fav part is 0.00 to 3.16
― hardhouse banter (tpp), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really feel that this adds much to the song, and the false stop is kind of jarring, but it's fine
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
on the other hand if this is your first time hearing it there's no sense that the song faffs around.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it still sounds weird to me... but i don't think that's really unexpected considering how attached i am to the original version
it still sounds great tho, and i feel less weird about naming it my favorite song of 2012 (so far) now that it's an actual single
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like the best song of the year just got ten times better.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
and yeah his voice is terrific. As much as I love the tension borne of restraint in A&P the abandon in "All" and the love-man vigor here are just as satisfying.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
that new 'pop' sound is kinda weird
― Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
'pop' sound?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
All the kids are into it
― Evan R, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
sounds like idk an eggcup being hit?
― Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
high pitched water drop
― Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
When you have the best fucking song of the year, you can get away with teasing people for four months before the climax.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
does anyone have a link to an interview in which he discusses writing and recording these EPs?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't seen one...
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
― Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:46 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this was on the original version too, at least mine
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
well it is and it isn't - something like it is there but not so high pitched and forward in the mix
― Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
oh I dunno -- it was always prominent
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
112 'Cupid' is still the best song featuring the water drop.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
maybe I just have an earlier mixed version of the 2:19 one? xp
― Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:11 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i was thinking about starting a thread on this actually. "laundromat" all the way
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
Brainwasher, Rev and I did an outoud.fm theme night on this, it turned up some great jams.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I forgot about that. Earliest example I can think of is Prince's "Crazy You"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
anyone have a download?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://www56.zippyshare.com/v/10600021/file.html
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
^______________________^
― The Reverend, Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to the new versh on headphones and yeah the little 'pop' sound is not very noticeable, it really pops on my speakers tho
― Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
this has been your 'pop' update
― Faith in Humanity: Restored (dayo), Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
definitely sticks out more in this mix, i feel like the bassline is more at the forefront, too.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link
miguel is so good w/ backing vocals. i could listen to an entire album of his just layering oohs and ahhs w/o even writing actual "songs"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
not sure how I'd restrain myself if I watched him record the "ahhhs" in "All"
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
fuck it, everybody's selfish
― The Reverend, Thursday, 28 June 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure the extra bit of Adorn really makes it a measurably better or worse song, but that's mostly cause it was already great.
Arch N Point also my most played 2012 track thus far.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, 29 June 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno if it feels obvious to anyone else but it seems really clear to me that "Adorn" was 3 minutes long to begin with and the first version released was truncated, rather than the ending being added after the fact. the awkward 'ooh ooh' on the original ending actual fits now.
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Friday, 29 June 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
actually
I kinda doubt that. Seems like his label decided they wanted to push it and needed a more conventional structure/length.
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
hopefully someone will ask him in an interview at some point, i'm genuinely curious
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Friday, 29 June 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
ditto
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
Not much to add. Art Dealer Chic EPs are the shit. But hey, let's make a pact not to mention Prince for a while, let this breathe.
― Popture, Saturday, 30 June 2012 07:37 (eleven years ago) link
full version doesn't make me care about "adorn" any more than i did already, no matter how much i listen that song goes in one ear and out the other
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Monday, 2 July 2012 09:41 (eleven years ago) link
"adorn" is my favorite song of the decade after "lemme smang it"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 2 July 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
"Adorn" is now the most-listened to song on my last.fm
― The Reverend, Monday, 2 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
fwiw the top three most watchec videos of "adorn" on youtube total 5m+ views w/ zero promo
― J0rdan S., Monday, 2 July 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I watch the A&P video at least twice a week lol
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
is there an official video?
i haven't been able to watch youtubes for about a month on this dying laptop
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, "adorn" & "arch & point" have official videos
the "arch & point" one is fantastic
― J0rdan S., Monday, 2 July 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
if i can ever stop dithering and buy a new laptop maybe i'll get to see them one day
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
hopefully
― now all my posts got ship in it (dayo), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
Arch n Point video is almost as sexy as the song.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
The Miguel and Jhene Aiko show is one of Myspace's two free secret shows in July, brought to you by the makers of Trojan® Charged™ condoms.
― some dude, Thursday, 5 July 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
nyc kids, he's playing w/ jamie xx & pearson sound on aug 4
― J0rdan S., Monday, 16 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
xp I bet Miguel and Jhene are pretty damn good for condom sales
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Monday, 16 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
i just thought there was something kind of amazing and perfect about the triangulation of Miguel, MySpace and Trojan
― some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
haha word
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Monday, 16 July 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
MySpace is such a harsh connotation, though. I'll forever associate that site with a whole movement of mostly disbanded emo acts I was slightly too old to fully understand
― Evan R, Monday, 16 July 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.spin.com/articles/stream-miguels-three-song-kaleidoscope-dream-water-preview
― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 July 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
lol at thread of miguel btw
― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
Use Me sounds great.
― n00bs on my damn chain (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 26 July 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
"use me" is amazing
"don't look back" i'm not so sure about
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
"use me" is as good as anything he's put out this year imo
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
both songs are really dense... "use me" really gives off this vibe that he's, like, in the middle of a thunderstorm or something. but in a way that really works.
chorus is killer
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
serious jaw drop at "use me"
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Friday, 27 July 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
like 2:50 onwards is DDDDDDDDDDD:
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Friday, 27 July 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
where is the CDQ mixtape downloadable from the website???
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Friday, 27 July 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
dunno about anyone else but I love when Miguel belts
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
I need to stop listening to this off the website, I'm gonna burn out
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Friday, 27 July 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
man, dude packs so much music into just two new song; this is so much to digest. Love how substantial both of these tracks are
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
minor miracle I was somehow able to get the Spin site to stream these for me. Never has any luck accessing anything on that site before, so glad it came through for me when it counted
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
"adorn" is slowly rising on the r&b chart too
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
"use me" is stunning
"don't look back" sounds a bit too much like a ryan tedder collaboration or something but i don't dislike it
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
so i guess the album has 11 songs, if my math is right? good number imo
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
I've learned never to underestimate the dude's capacity for writing songs that grow on me. Even fucking "Broads" eventually wormed its way past my "i should hate this" shield
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
you're a brave man, Evan
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
his singing on "don't look back" is good tho
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
how prince is the title "kaleidoscope dream" btw? love it
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
Stay tuned: On Wednesday morning, August 1, SPIN will also be exclusively premiering a stream of Miguel's performance from an upcoming secret live show.
really excited about this, there's not tons of video of him playing live out there. especially the new stuff, if at all.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder if Miguel is paying incredibly in-depth homage to Smashing Pumpkins by naming his multi-part digital album Kaleidoscope Dream.
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 03:45 (eleven years ago) link
lol i was listening to "use me" w/ the door partly closed while my boyfriend was in the kitchen and when i got up and went in there he said he thought it sounded like a smashing pumpkins song
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:45 PM (Yesterday)
that was my first thought too haha
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Friday, 27 July 2012 05:24 (eleven years ago) link
"don't look back" >>>>>>>>>>>>
― lex pretend, Friday, 27 July 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link
miguel's doubletracked vocals when the bass drops out on "use me" >>>>>>>>>>>
― lex pretend, Friday, 27 July 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
these new tracks are fucking stadium shit
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
we're gonna find out miguel's been bumping muse for the last six months or something
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
ok "Don't Look Back" just blew my mind
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah didn't grab as much at first, but it's good.
― n00bs on my damn chain (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 27 July 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
This guy has a gift for smuggling melancholy into unexpected places. "Use Me" is probably the saddest kinky sex song I've heard this year.
("Birthday Cake" doesn't count, because it is sad for other reasons.)
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
when he double-tracks the guitars on "use me" >>>
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
"Use Me" is probably the saddest kinky sex song I've heard this year.
he does sing the line "my pride is waving a white flag"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
i hate myself for even bringing this up but anyone who dug the weekend's last two mixtapes should feel fucking embarrassed hearing "use me"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
as well as in a more general sense
― lex pretend, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
well yes that too, lol
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
right on cue Lex!
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
"Use Me" has a pathos that the Weeknd's songs don't, though. Abel is the predatory; Miguel is (at least for this song) the victim
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
word
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
Plus, Miguel knows how to use sound and space to complement his voice.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
His productions consistently point outward, away from the self, as opposed to The Weeknd's insularity.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
yup
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
"use me" really conveys the parallel nervousness and excitement of new sexual encounters/experiences imo. like you have this towering, expansive song & in the middle of it a guy singing "use me when you're taking control / with the lights off / i can just let go" and "it's the very first time / and i'm nervous / can i trust you, huh?"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
tho he also sings from the other perspective as well & i guess it's up to debate which (if either) is him
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
It's songs that "Use Me" which have me give his songs queer readings.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
*like "Use Me"
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
yeah totally
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
I was really engrossed by the sheer, uncompromising horror of those last Weeknd mixtapes (plus I think they sound great), but Tesfaye was never very interested in exploring his the roots of his monstrosity; he was just a ghoul. I love how Miguel, on the other hand, uses these small details to suggest the motivations behind sexual desires. He can use his voice to hint at the heartbreak the drives one-night stands, for instance, but its rare to hear a song that equates kinky sex to damaged goods as devastatingly (and as sweetly) as "Use Me."
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
that drive, excuse me. Gah, I gotta proof my posts better. Whenever I am on allergy meds I am typo city.
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
and he can makes kinks delicious (e.g. "Arch N Point").
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
ya good point
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
(I'm having trouble with subject-verb agreement too)
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 July 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
I was going to mention "Arch N Point" re: Miguel sad-kink
― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
wow @ the "time of the season" interpolation at the end of "don't look back"
and jordan otm about the ryan tedder vibes but miguel wields them incredibly
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
from 4/12/12
https://twitter.com/MiguelUnlimited/statuses/190618069792604162
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
I don't usually speculate about artists' sexuality, nor do I really care about it—I have that sort of apathetic and maybe naive quality a lot of straight guys have where we just assume everybody is straight unless they say otherwise—but I kind of wonder if Miguel is just waiting for somebody to bluntly ask him about his sexuality so he can just give them an answer.
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
part of the questions about him stem from his look & image which is probably unfair but he definitely writes from a different perspective than a lot of singers
on the other hand a lot of his songs code as totally straight to me
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, "Use Me" is such a passive depiction of sexuality, and he positions himself (for lack of a better term) as the receiving partner, which isn't a position that a lot of R&B singers take. Combined with his soft imagine, it just seems to me like if he's gay he's not even really trying to hide his sexuality.
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
But again, I'm the wrong guy to speculate. Songwriters can write from a wide range of perspectives, so I never would have suspected anything about Frank Ocean from his music along. (Actually, I never suspected anything about Frank Ocean even after seeing this on his Tumblr: http://frankocean.tumblr.com/post/24525846895)
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
he's explicitly denied gay rumours before, fyi - http://www.bet.com/news/fashion-and-beauty/2011/06/03/miguel-defends-sexuality-explains-his-electrik-style.html
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 27 July 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
which, like. doesn't necessarily convince me one way or the other. i don't want to be hem in the permissible modes of existence for str8 r&b dudes - more power to them for funky clothes and receptive narratives etc. like, Prince is the greatest and I could give a shit if he was ever actually queer or just played with the codes and imagery.
but still, i wouldn't be entirely shocked or entirely disappointed. he's also stunningly pretty, so... [Rev, back me up on this, please]
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 27 July 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
although now that I read that article, " “For anyone who questions my sexuality, the honest truth is I love women. I’ve always openly loved women." isn't realllllly a statement of "i am not queer" so much as "i love women openly" and do not comment on the rest of it.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 27 July 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
Singer Miguel Denies That He's GayHe thinks people should expand their horizons
^this is pretty amazing
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, July 27, 2012 5:33 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i had this thought as well
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
It's a fun denial, and I'll take his word for it. But Miguel's whole career trajectory has involved catching up to the margins, working from the inside out. He started as an industry favorite in the safe Usher mold; then became a commercial act working on the periphery of a major label making slightly eccentric music, before embracing independent distribution models and nodding to outsidery trends with his free EPs. He's obviously very interested in breaking from commercial expectations, but he works with safety net; he's cautious about the conventions he upends. Now that the climate is suddenly a lot more inviting for urban artists who might want to come out, I wonder if he'll seize the opportunity.
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
When was he ever in the usher mold? His early staff seems more left coast hippie shit with Blu and Emanon etc.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 27 July 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
He's always been a little bit of a weirdo, no? I mean even 'Sure Thing' is weird insofar as it's totally spare except for the screwed vocal hook.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 27 July 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
I think it took so long to grow on me because I wanted to hear it as a pop song in context and it felt too anemic.
On March 5 in this thread I posted the video for his 2005 single. Check it out if you haven't; it kinda speaks volumes about where he's coming from.
He was definitely a lovable weirdo on his debut, but I think Jive had so little invested in him that he was given the freedom to do pretty much whatever he wanted with that record, a luxury that he definitely made the most of.
― Evan R, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
haha holy shit @ that 05 video
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
He still pals around with west coast hippies! Jhene, Thundercat, FlyLo, J Davey, etc...
― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
If Prince is queer, it's because of his gender presentation, nothing to do with his orientation.
― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
if?
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 July 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
If he chooses to identify as that.
― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
apropos of nothing, this is dope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPpHgm5nRXE&feature=relmfu
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
i get why people are using the word "sad" to describe miguel but i dunno if it's the most accurate - it has connotations of inward-facing timidity and moping to me, but the best of miguel's work this year is just so...full-blooded and cathartic and really physical, it's as much about frustration and anger as melancholy, and there's a lot at stake in his songs. i'm suspicious of fetishisation-of-melancholy in general and i think this is a different thing.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 29 July 2012 07:34 (eleven years ago) link
heard "Adorn" on Baltimore radio for the first time and, interestingly, they played the 2-minute version. the DJ sounded really excited about it before and after the song, so maybe she was a fan and pulled it straight off the EP instead of using the label promo.
― Nutri Grane (some dude), Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link
that is interesting
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
yearning is prob the word that comes to mind with migs
urgency tinged with tangible need, every song sung sincerely on his knees
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
that was somewhat more lyrical miracle than i intended
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link
can i get a refill
http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Miguel-Elle-Varner-IFWT.jpg
― Nutri Grane (some dude), Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
D:
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 29 July 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link
lex's post makes some good points
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
is he very petite or is elle a way bigger gulp than she normally looks
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
miguel is petite as hell
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
def true that for me Miguel's attraction as a singer is how anger and a libidinos streak intertwine.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
*libidinous
i guess i read that anger as a resiliency i.e. "...all"
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, or a certitude
wouldnt take him seriously if i thought he was ever angry
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
he seems very controlled and confident to me, just as a person/performer, in a way that informs how he expresses any emotion in hi smusic
― Nutri Grane (some dude), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
not at a Prince level of icy remove but definitely closer than any of his contemporaries that i can think of
― Nutri Grane (some dude), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
Agreed. I didn't at all mean his anger was inchoate or anything; it's closer to seething.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
sure but even that seems overstated
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
these new tracks are definitely mastered way grungier right
paranoid about my hearing/stereo lately so i'm not even sure
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
Great post, Lex. I totally hear the frustration.
― Evan R, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
damnit I thought we had lex so close to fetishizing melancholy
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Late to the party but "Use Me" and "Don't Look Back" are just so... damn miguel how have you made so many of my favourite songs this year already.
― Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
xp This is probably the part of Lex's "indie is ruining everything" conspiracy theory that I agree with the most. Melancholy is too often mistaken for substance, and I would hate to see it become a rampant empty signifier in R&B the way it did in indie rock. (That being said, I do obviously love it when it's done right)
― Evan R, Sunday, 29 July 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
there's certainly a density to them but i thought everything sounded pretty clear.
the guitars are kinda 90s rock tho.
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
what with wynter gordon too, we just need one more for a TRENDPIECE
― lex pretend, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
yearning urgency is exactly right btw re: miguel
melancholy implies a sort of resignation - you've given up - that's not present in miguel's work
― lex pretend, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah "resignation" is where melancholy starts to become indie. Perhaps a sense of (self)alienation too.
Neither of which Miguel does really.
― Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
he just wants a quickie iirc
― Nutri Grane (some dude), Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
Actually arguably "Broads" is resigned.
― Tim F, Sunday, 29 July 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
I cannot get over the depth of this stuff.
I want to see the waveforms when we finally get high quality versions, because (just based on my ears) this feels like a perfect opportunity to contrast tracks with lots of layers that have been recorded and mixed properly vs. stuff like My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy which is just overstuffed and overcompressed etc.
Like, 'Use Me' is the kind of song that could be a total mess sonically if it wasn't so impeccably put together. That round at the end! over top of the guitar strum!
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
This list is like my ultimate wkiw (esp if it includes Miguel)
Anyways way late to this party but glad I made it
― seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 July 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link
It occurs to me that part of what makes "Adorn" so special is where in most r&b songs you have a static chorus with ad libs over the top, here the chorus is single-tracked and there's this tension where he has to find this balance between embellishing and carrying the melody. Does he toe the line? No, HE GOES ALL THE WAY FUCKING IN.
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 July 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
I might be wrong but I don't feel like there's much of a distinction really between the verses & chorus, and that the choice between 'toeing the line' and 'going all the way fucking in' as you put it, is kind of the main demarcation between the two. That and the short running time of the orig version (I haven't listened to the single edit yet) maybe gives it a sort of sinuous slipperiness where you can feel like lots of stuff is happening but you can't quite get a handle on it--or at least I can't. Which is one of the things that compels me to listen to it again and again.
― seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 July 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link
you need to listen to the single version
― now there's a lot of bad bitches in the building (am0n) (some dude), Monday, 30 July 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link
...to know what Rev is really talking about. Ok yeah, listened and got it.
― seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that element existed in the ADC version, but it wasn't til the single version that it was made really clear.
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
i just realized that miguel wrote this which totally makes sense in light of the adc shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-cmRfwFxM
― i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
WAIT REALLY? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THAT??
man i love that song. also shame he didn't do more work w/ jam & lewis.
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
is he playing ny tomorrow? little google bird told me he might be
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link
that SPIN post said they're gonna have a video of a performance from a "secret live show" on wednesday morning, so yeah he's prob playing somewhere tomorrow night
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
he's also playing PS1 w/ jamie xx & pearson sound on 8/4
WATER PREVIEW also available on itunes now
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
holy shit
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:53 (eleven years ago) link
right?
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
It's not on the Australian iTunes. I'm distraught.
― Popture, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
http://youtu.be/8dM5QYdTo08
Video is out though.
― Popture, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
weird
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
yahhh
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
Cool
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
Shot in Los Angeles and directed by Jason Beattie(Steve Aoki, Mike Posner, Good Charlotte), features Miguel in a moody underworld searching for a mythical, unattainable woman.
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
lol, whatever. i preferred just staring at his face, obviously.
but he looks ~fine~ here also, so it's all good.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
he sure wears makeup well
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
his getup is a bit too Bruno Mars
― REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
Rev, didn't you once have a similar haircut?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
he's so pretty http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz166/smrougifs/Gifs/EmmaRachelSwoon.gif
― i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah, but I never paired it with a retro teddy boy suit
― REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
so nice hearing this on the radio
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
i think i'm talking to him tomorrow fyi if u want to get any questions in
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
Friday August 3rd Line-upThe-Dream Miguel at the Ohio State Fair
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
WAIT WHAT
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:38 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Tell him your friend Rodney has a thing for him and would like his number.
― REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:38 PM (16 minutes ago)
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101229043821/headhuntershorrorhouse/images/3/3d/Exploding_head.gif
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
Rev, if we cannot work out a way to timeshare Miguel's phone number/affections, our friendship may be hitting a speed bump.
Can I take every other weekend?
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
Also, excuse me while I google how long a drive it is from Montreal to Ohio.
It is only 12 hours! Um. Hm. Probably not.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
threesomes
― REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
haha. deal.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
ok, also, calling this "Kaleidoscope Dream: The Water Preview" looks ridiculous. Is it less silly to call it "Kaleidoscope Dream: Water" or "Kaleidoscope Dream: The Water" or what?
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
I'd rather call this an orgy.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
guys, srsly, let's keep it in teh gayz thread, shall we? i know it's summer and everything but restraint!
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
been up so long it looks like going down
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
ewww, who invited Alfred?
― REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
ima stand up for 'don't look back', dude is thom yorkeing his ass off
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
"don't look back" is cool... i'm just hoping that it's the seventh best song on the LP and not the fourth
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
i am not holding too much stock by the album itself really
i mean it'll doubtless have good stuff on there but won't i think quite add up to what you want it to, really capture what the eps sketch out and imply
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
adorn is the only thing off the art dealer chics to make it on the album, is that right?
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
when it comes to Miguel I've been telling myself not to turn into one of those loathsome The Dark Knight Returns fans on Facebook. The EP's weren't perfect but so far they comprise my favorite music released this year. I won't raise expectations about the full album.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:15 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark
i'm not sure if anyone knows. maybe he'll throw "arch n point" on there, we'll see.
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
I can see Arch n Point on there. Maybe ...ALL. Don't imagine anything off Vol. 3 would show up. Maybe a version of Broads with a guest verse? I mean, I hope not but it's possible.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
i doubt it. i'd say "arch n point" only because it also got a video but my guess is that they'll throw some of the tracks together for the deluxe LP or w/e
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://new.livestream.com/miguel/LivefromNYC?&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=live&utm_campaign=miguel/LivefromNYC&utm_content=7_31show
― REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
miguel's gaze is v pretty
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
although I do get kind of a http://i.imgur.com/kufBH.jpg vibe from him tho
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
someone watch this with me
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
new neighbors blasting the same justin timeberlake song over and over so I am blasting adorn over and over
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link
what in the complete fuck this song has like a whole extra minute now, maybe I should read the thread
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
show running late? hasn't started yet on the stream...
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:38 (eleven years ago) link
that's good, gave me time to make a sammich first.
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
excited 4 this
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
seeing miguel live thursday
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
opening for cee lo :-/
here???????????????
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
duhhhhhh
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:05 (eleven years ago) link
fuck
i will see you there
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link
apparently "Candles In The Sun" will be on the album
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
did he say that?
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
i was on the phone
the greedy side of me wants to hear 11 or 12 new tracks but he'd be a fool not to put some of that stuff on the album
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
He also said it's the first song he recorded with his band. Dunno if that implies it's in a diff arrangement, more similar to what he played tonight.
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
lol at him rapping pac
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
awesome idea tho
yeah, uhhh that was not what was up
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
ah, rats
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
that was so good
― maura, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
I hate you all.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
it's streaminghttp://new.livestream.com/miguel/LivefromNYC
― maura, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
did you guys wanna parse this:
Prior to his performance at Joe’s Pub in NYC this past Tuesday night, Miguel sat with MTV for a brief interview regarding his newly released EP, forthcoming album Kaleidoscope Dream, the unique release plan they are rolling out and he even exclusively revealed the next single coming from the second EP.
Speaking about the upcoming “Kaleidoscope Dreams: Air Preview” EP, he described it as “really light and fun,” and exclusively revealed to MTV that the title of the next single from ‘Air Preview’ is called “Drugs,” and it is sure to get the fans talking.
“Let’s just say the single for the Air Preview should strike up quite a bit of conversation. I think it’s going to be a lot of fun,” Miguel said. “It’s a very personal and, I guess, kind of carefree song.”
Miguel admits that the tracks on Water Preview may be all about romance and relationships, but since his 2010 debut, All I Want Is You, Miguel has done a lot of growing up and says Kaleidoscope Dream is a “clear projection of my life.”
“The first album, All I Want Is You, revolved so much around my romantic experience. I’ve had three major relationships; each one of my girlfriends kind of taught me something new,” Miguel said. “This time around, I wanted to discuss more of my perspective of life — not necessarily with the opposite sex, and I do that on the album as well, but the majority of the album, I would say, is about my life.”
― , Blogger (schlump), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
he also started doing drugs?
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think him saying the album is not all necessarily about life with the opposite sex = a frank ocean moment.
― Tim F, Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
i still don't get where all the gay talk has even come from w/r/t miguel
― lex pretend, Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
it's because of how he looks
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
There's a lot of uber hetero caricatures out there that have warped things.
― bnw, Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
he doesn't even "look" "gay"
― lex pretend, Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
lolwut
― REV LION (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/t6OCw.jpg
no, i "guess" "not"
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
to put that photo in context, that's from when miguel was an extra in "minority report"
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
no -- that's when Miguel was RuPaul.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
i dont think hes gay & that tacky clothing actually has a kind of clueless hetero swagger to it imo
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
it's more lenny kravitz than anything
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
deej otm
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
thought california love extra
― bnw, Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
^^
Whatever that's a bad look for him, visible gutters notwithstanding.
― Tim F, Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
I liked his Naomi Campbell shirt the other night. (honestly)
― REV LION (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
he looks like an aphid
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, August 2, 2012 5:04 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
dying
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Friday, 3 August 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
(btw when i talked to him he told me that he prefers the ADC version of "adorn")
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
That's because it's better.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
did he explain whether the third minute was added after the fact?
prefer the longer version now, either way
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
like the extra min but not the silly prince opening in the vid. the more abrupt start helped the ~mystique~.
― bnw, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
the longer version was the original but he prefers the shorter version
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
i win my bet with rev then!
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
fine, dammit. and yeah, the long version is even better. that bridge feels so....solid, like you could reach out and hold it and he goes so far in on the last chorus
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
love the modulation
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
yes!
― REV LION (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
"adorn" broke into the hot 100 this week, should be in the r&b/hip-hop top 10 by next week
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 August 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
heard an ad for the new miguel on the radio today
― kanye shiwen (dayo), Friday, 10 August 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
album tracklist
http://t.co/13ljZkRQ
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
LOL at PIM.
― Tim F, Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, seriously
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
i think the next preview is tracks 4-6
damn so I've already heard 6/11 tracks... and LOL @ "Pussy Is Mine" being on the album... still super excited tho.
― i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
glad "arch n point" made the cut! wish "gravity" would've replaced "candles"
― i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
actually "gravity" could of just replaced "pussy is mine"... I mean unless he totally reworked it from this, it's a bit of a throwaway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftG4AeMl-xU
― i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 16 August 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
when's it out again?
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
never heard "pussy is mine" before. there's definitely the workings of a dope song there, but sounds kinda demo-ish
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
the version of "candles" that's on the album is the slower version that he's been playing live
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
i'm glad it's not just the EP version w/ the Lennon sample cut out, that weirdly makes that version of the song work for me
― some dude, Thursday, 16 August 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
p much loathe 'candles' and deplore the long, grody post-ocean shadow it casts over this album and the adorn/use me/arch in point axis
more glam, less dress-up hippy cruft
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 06:57 (eleven years ago) link
truthfully does anyone even actually wanna hear miggy attempt a song titled 'kaleidoscope dream' (let alone name the effing album after it) cos i'm just saying nuh uh
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 07:01 (eleven years ago) link
kinda feel that reusing ADC songs misses the point of ADC but oh well
"where's the fun in forever" might be more lol than "pussy is mine"
― lex pretend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 07:03 (eleven years ago) link
agree with this even tho the new version of "Adorn" is basically my favorite thing ever
― The Reverend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 07:07 (eleven years ago) link
i can see why they'd put arch n point on there tho
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 07:09 (eleven years ago) link
"arch & point" is the best ADC song yeah but if you want to reuse ADC tracks have the decency to put them as bonus tracks or something - if the next preview EP is tracks 4-6 that'll leave us with uhhh two new songs when the album drops
― lex pretend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 07:11 (eleven years ago) link
i'd have less of a problem with reusing the tracks if it seemed as if the album was gonna be like the finished expanded apotheosis of the adc ep sketches, but it doesnt and so feels more like a cheaper cherrypick
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 07:18 (eleven years ago) link
the title track btw is definitely arty but it sounded pretty cool -- prod by salaam
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 07:52 (eleven years ago) link
I do have to give Salaam his dues for being reliable as fuck.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link
the album has a lot of guitars tho, so arch n point will fit well sonically... It's not a straight cherry pick
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:12 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's been fairly obvious that Migs loves his guitars.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:13 (eleven years ago) link
salaam is one of the best producers of all time but phones it in these days pretty much, "reliable" is his bare minimum
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:14 (eleven years ago) link
like if you got him on pcp and told him to make a track out of some pots and pans it'd come out sounding reliable
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:15 (eleven years ago) link
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 09:12 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"guitars so fits" is so inane idk what to even say
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:20 (eleven years ago) link
damn dude
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:29 (eleven years ago) link
what
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:37 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard basically the entire album... It's "cherry picking" in the sense that, yes, he's taking one of the singles from ADC but it totally fits with the direction of the album. It's no biggie. He's putting a good song on his album.
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link
i'm also okay with how he's releasing the album... I think the argument could be made that he's finding an agreeable middle ground between an album leaking outside of the artist's control and the level of buzz you need to have to find the elusive "everyone hearing it at once" feeling (like frank ocean or watch the throne)
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 08:56 (eleven years ago) link
you only seem to be seeing one direction here though, is where we disagree
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 09:06 (eleven years ago) link
i like the way he's staggering releases but i dunno how well it's working if people itt are already finding ways to be unhappy about him releasing 17 mostly dope songs in one year
― some dude, Thursday, 16 August 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
Adorn might well be my song of the year.
― (professor) (longneck), Thursday, 16 August 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link
The ADC Candles In the Sun almost sounds a bit channel orangey, no?
― (professor) (longneck), Thursday, 16 August 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link
well it came out before that album -- it actually weirded me out to hear the phrase "candles in the sun" in the last track of the frank ocean but i guess it's a more common phrase than i realized
― some dude, Thursday, 16 August 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
what makes Miguel beautiful?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
I know it came out before channel orange, that's why I wrote "almost". But strip it down a bit and they're definitely talking the same musical language.
― (professor) (longneck), Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
london show, london:http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?region=gb_london&query=detail&event=527723kinda $$ but
― very sexual album (schlump), Saturday, 18 August 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
damn not at home for that :'(
― hardhouse banter (tpp), Saturday, 18 August 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
where are his tour dates?
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Saturday, 18 August 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
found this after searching "ledisi" and re-reading part of the 2011 r&b thread - don't think i'd ever heard it before!
http://www.youtube.com/v/JGZaRV7mv8A&fs=1&hl=en
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 August 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
also found this otm statement
and "sure thing" is cool but "Teach Me" is the best song on that Miguel album imo
― The Brainwasher, Friday, April 29, 2011 2:22 AM (1 year ago)
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 August 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9f9nxsD671r9vju3o1_500.jpg
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
literally lolling
― some dude, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah so bad.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
trying to remember the last time a contemporary R&B album with this high a profile came out w/ no obligatory guest rappers
― some dude, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Miguel Monae!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
lmao
― flopson, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
Forgive me for asking probably easy-to-find info, but is there a release date yet?
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
complex said that the song he wrote for alicia keys in jamaica (and that her backing vocals are on) is "candles in the sun" but i don't think that's right -- for one, when i talked to him he told me that it was "where's the fun in forever" & also having heard at least one version of "candles," i don't think her vocals are on that
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
jer: he's releasing a three-song preview on 9/11, full thing is out 10/2
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
happy to find out miguel also has thunder thighs
― jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
Excellent. I mean, these staggered EP releases have been nice, but a full album makes things a lot easier for year-end ranking purposes.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
IF the album is worth ranking above Art Dealer Chic. we'll see.
― some dude, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
Well, yeah. But isn't a good chunk of ADC gonna be on this?
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
three songs -- i think it's gonna be as good or better. ADC does have some throwaways.
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
Fuckin broads.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
seriously, if he keeps making album covers like this, i will have to keep making Avatar: The Last Airbender jokes.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, I don't really know how Internet memes work, but I am picturing Flying Miguel photobombing all sorts of news and sports images, dunking on Kobe or Billy Corgan or whatever
― Evan R, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
“It’s definitely a progressive album,” the 25-year-old told Mina SayWhat. “I would describe it as being progressive in the sense that I’m taking a lot of my more alternative influences and incorporating them.”
Kaleidoscope Dream Tracklisting
1. “Adorn”2. “Don’t Look Back”3. “Use Me”4. “Do You…”5. “Kaleidoscope Dream”6. “The Thrill”7. “How Many Drinks?”8. “Where’s the Fun in Forever?”9. “Arch & Point”10. “Pussy Is Mine”11. “Candle in the Sun”
http://www.rap-up.com/2012/08/15/tracklisting-miguel-kaleidoscope-dream/
― curmudgeon, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
"adorn" is looking like it has a chance to be his biggest hit
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
heard it on the radio this morning, vibed out
― jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, Pussy is Mine is on this? Cool. He played that live at the Joe's Pub show and it felt like older material from somewhere but I didn't entirely recognize it.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, Pussy is Mine? Cool.
― some dude, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
6. “The Thrill”7. “How Many Drinks?”8. “Where’s the Fun in Forever?”
also known as The Ballin' Trilogy
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
trying to remember the last time a contemporary R&B album with this high a profile came out w/ no obligatory guest rappers― some dude, Monday, August 27, 2012 12:38 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Monday, August 27, 2012 12:38 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Profiles weren't as high, but Love Me Back and Late Nights & Early Mornings come to mind.
― Andy K, Monday, 27 August 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
which was late nights? marsha ambrosius?
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
that didn't register for me at ALL. Love me back is still in constant rotation.
thanks for prompting me to play the Ambrosious album again, Andy!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah good call with the Jazmine and Marsha albums, dug both. i'm just happy that this time Mig got to dodge the J. Cole bullet that Melanie and Elle caught this year.
― some dude, Monday, 27 August 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Alex, check out the Ambrosius again. Although it faffs around a bit in the middle section and is at times too masochistic for my taste, this is plush, sumptuous R&B of a high order -- probably my favorite one of last year
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
"Adorn" is great, but I've always thought it needed a B.o.B. verse
― Evan R, Monday, 27 August 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
and a Calvin Harris remix featuring Nicki Minaj.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 August 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, August 27, 2012 2:23 PM (6 hours ago)
is it charting? it doesn't even have a wiki entry
― There's gotta be an opposition party or something in Russia, right? (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
well here's a sentence i never thought i'd read
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
#7 R&B, #68 on the Hot 100 (xpost)
― some dude, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
There's also the R. Kelly albums.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah but those aren't contemporary R&B
― some dude, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
mariah - memoirs?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
though that is quite a while ago now
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
jeremih's first album
― There's gotta be an opposition party or something in Russia, right? (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
memoirs had gucci on the single version of "obsessed" right?
― There's gotta be an opposition party or something in Russia, right? (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
or was that a separate remix
separate remix & not on the album
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
wait, ship: how are Kels' albums not contemporary R&B? Is it their retro stylings that inoculate them?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
he iz old
― There's gotta be an opposition party or something in Russia, right? (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
lol at lex taking Evan's post at face value
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
Oh! *fumbles with trembling hands with Lipitor tablets and something called a "keyboard"*
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
i was basically borrowing the parlance of the Grammys, who for most of the last decade had a 'contemporary R&B album' award to distinguish the overly modern hip hop-influenced stuff from the more traditional stuff that usually wins the best R&B album award (but the 2 categories were merged back into one this year). Chocolate Factory was nominated in the contemporary category; his last two would have been in the other category, if they were nominated.
― some dude, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
like you wouldn't listen to Write Me Back and expect to possibly hear a guest rapper on it (unlike Miguel's stuff), so it's not relevant to the point i was making.
― some dude, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
new trey songz album only has like 6 guest rappers
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
SPOILER ALERT
the new preview is very good
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 6 September 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
"do you..." especially is absolutely sublime
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 6 September 2012 04:24 (eleven years ago) link
:D
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 September 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
"do you..." is like "quickie" pt 2... the glowing, coital track that just basks in its own sound. it's even a bit more ethereal tho.
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 6 September 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
Just heard Adorn in a sports store while walking through the mall. Miguel has arrived!
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Thursday, 6 September 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
Man is this release scheme convoluted. Like, I'm a pretty big fan of this guy, and I really can't keep track of which songs are out, which ones are coming soon, which ones are being bundled where, where to download them, when to download them, etc, etc. I am totally lost, and his site isn't really clarifying a lot of these questions.
The ADC EPs were clever, but he should stop fucking around and just put out an album already.
― Evan R, Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
three more songs out 9/11, full thing out 10/2
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
i hope "do you..." is actually the next single. maybe the best thing he's ever done.
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
cool to see that Pop & Oak produced "Use Me," really starting to stan for them after the Elle Varner album. "Don't Look Back" is prob my least favorite song he's put out this year, though.
― IN REAL LIFE (some dude), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
i've never heard so many radio DJs say things like "I love that song! don't you love that song?" before or after playing something as with "Adorn" -- was really awesome to change stations right after it and hear it starting on another station the other day.
― IN REAL LIFE (some dude), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Is that EV album good front to back?
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
imo yeah
― IN REAL LIFE (some dude), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
Cool, was interested but hadn't heard much, will check it.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
heard "Adorn" on Tuesday! It helped that the R&B station played Maze's "Back in Stride" right after.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
i think he's gonna hit no. 1 next week. up to no. 2 this week.
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
gonna start using "the third minute of 'Adorn'" as a euphemism for keys that unlock wonderful hidden treasures
― IN REAL LIFE (some dude), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
have we all seen this? this performance of "adorn" is AHMAZING
http://pitchfork.com/news/47615-watch-miguel-perform-adorn-at-moma-ps1/
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
sarge where are these new previews of which you speak?
#secrete promos
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
ooh -- "Secrete" is a perfect Miguel title
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
i think i should be shaking my head at that
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 September 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
let my joke adorn you
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 September 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
secrete all over you
― USADA Bin Dopen (dayo), Friday, 7 September 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
jealous of alfred that lil b memes go over his head
― IN REAL LIFE (some dude), Friday, 7 September 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
air preview now streaming http://kaleidoscopedream.officialmiguel.com/
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/miguelofficial/sets/kaleidoscope-dream-the-air/s-xfuSb
On soundcloud. For those who might prefer it there...
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
i've just been going around for the last few days softly singing "i wanna do you like drugs toniiiiiiiiiiight"
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
in the past 9 months where i've grown to view miguel as a singular genius i have to sometimes constantly remind myself that he can write some really hilariously corny lyrics
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
but then he can also write something as dope as "we can be the riot in the air tonight"
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like i've been able to reconcile his good ideas and bad ideas as part of an overall appealing package ever since he looked as goofy as he did in the video for a song as good as "Sure Thing"
wow @ "Do You..."
― manic pixie, mercy, yo chick she's so quirky (some dude), Saturday, 8 September 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
i feel like we've got so much in common now, right about now baby
― Tim F, Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
I think his lacking a "star" profile (yet) makes the occasional poor articulation of musical ideas more interesting.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link
― Tim F, Friday, September 7, 2012 11:03 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
i've been going back and forth about whether or not he says "do you like hugs?" right before this
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
wonder if that's him on gee-tar on "Do You"
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
he does say "do you like hugs?"
other talents aside, he's a singer I love listening to
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
haha and what sounds like "do you like drugs" in the outro
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 7, 2012 11:10 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark
maybe. production is credited to jerry wonda but miguel definitely played something on it.
"the thrill" is a solo production. title track is remi.
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 7, 2012 11:13 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
oh this is definitely what he says. it's a play on words at the beginning of the song ("do you like drugs?") and the end ("i'ma do you like drugs")
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he says "do you like hugs" a few times.
I'm liking how, the more of the album I hear, the more distinctly an overall sonic aesthetic is emerging, and yet each instance of it sounds so singular and distinct.
― Tim F, Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
ugh two uses of "distinct", but you get me.
― Tim F, Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's definitely the main thing about this. i've heard the entire thing now, it sounds really good as a whole. dude just has a very strong idea of what he wants to sound like, just very singular and his singing is of course impeccable across the whole thing. the parts of the album that aren't out yet are still different but you can definitely feel his vision tracing thru the whole thing.
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
jesus christ the restless bass on "do you"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah that kind of sub-bass is basically my favorite thing in music. His vocals on the last half are badass too. Great track.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 8 September 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, September 8, 2012 3:28 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Its just as good (if not better) on The Thrill. just rumbles along down there.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 8 September 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
still think rtc's offhand springsteen comparison is the most on-base one i've seen so far - it's kind of where it clicked into place for me (which is weird b/c i don't even care about springsteen)
― lex pretend, Saturday, 8 September 2012 09:06 (eleven years ago) link
until Salaam Remi and Jerry Wonda had tracks side by side on this it never occurred to me that 2 different Fugees producers from back in the day have had pretty good careers the last few years
― manic pixie, mercy, yo chick she's so quirky (some dude), Saturday, 8 September 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
jordan what did he do with "pussy is mine"?
― k3vin k., Saturday, 8 September 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link
that seems like a personal question
― manic pixie, mercy, yo chick she's so quirky (some dude), Saturday, 8 September 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Saturday, 8 September 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnnx1n898U8
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
"pussy is mine" is on the album, it's pretty close to iirc what he was doing live. just him & the guitar and then it leads into the stripped down version of "candles in the sun"
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
with samples of John Lennon saying "I have found out personally, not for the whole world, that the pussy is mine"
― manic pixie, mercy, yo chick she's so quirky (some dude), Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
not really feeling the Labi Siffre appropriation on the title track. Do You is tremendous though
― Number None, Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
hi, my name is, my name is, slim miggy
― r|t|c, Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
j0rdan please tell me that you think this album is better than channel BORING so that i can merely jealous of you hearing it and not resentful as well
― manic pixie, mercy, yo chick she's so quirky (some dude), Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
no, be resentful as well
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 8 September 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
My fear is that Miguel's album is as boring as Ocean's. The heart can't handle these kinds of blows.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
already impossible based on the tracks that are out now
― manic pixie, mercy, yo chick she's so quirky (some dude), Saturday, 8 September 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HVHd1T04R9w/0.jpg
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
New tracks are great. Still constantly shocked and delighted over how this whimpy dude with a really muffled mixtape I somehow downloaded and a nice song with J. Cole became one of my favorite contemporary artists
― Evan R, Monday, 10 September 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
idk if miguel changed it up or what but just noticed the double tracked whispers on 'use me'
― dayo, Monday, 10 September 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link
"Adorn" is now his second R&B #1.
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
'the thrill' makes me cry every time i hear it
― maura, Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
(in a good way)
"adorn" will almost certainly be officially his biggest hit ever next week
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
it's #41 on the new hot 100
― maura, Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
third #1 if you count "Lotus Flower Bomb"
― some dude, Friday, 14 September 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
― dayo, Monday, September 10, 2012 7:26 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark
the layers of different vocal tracks w/ different effects and intonations on his new stuff is just masteful
― some dude, Friday, 14 September 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmdONhOfMKQ
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
guelly da kid angling to get a shoutout in the the very definition of showmanship: The Crazy Mic/Mic Stand! thread
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
I could have sworn I been had posted Migs in there.
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 05:17 (eleven years ago) link
pro tip: sing "sensitive thuuuuuuugs, sensitive thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugs" to the tune of "Do You"
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 05:42 (eleven years ago) link
Shouldn't it be "sensitive thuuuuuugs, do you need huuuuuuugs?"
― Tim F, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
oh, duh
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
Listening to "Kaleidoscope Dream" (the song), it occurs to me that Miguel's Prince appropriations are at times startlingly like Me'Shell Ndgeocello's Prince appropriations.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
rofl roscoe dash tried to come at the god today on twitter
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 September 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
asserting that Miguel did not write the words he sang on "Lotus Flower Bomb" is doing him a favor imo
― some dude, Friday, 21 September 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
btw there are a shit-ton of "Adorn" freestyles out right now by rappers you would never want to hear on that song but Ma$e's is the only one i felt compelled to rubberneck at: http://rapradar.com/2012/09/10/new-music-mae-adorn-remix/
― some dude, Friday, 21 September 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah they all started piling up at once
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Friday, 21 September 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
i hope the no-rappers policy on the album is extended to no official remixes. actually he can just not collaborate w/ any rappers at all (although i like "summer on smash")
― some dude, Friday, 21 September 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxKxShNHY-g
pleasing fwiw
― r|t|c, Friday, 21 September 2012 09:32 (eleven years ago) link
kids in my school's journalism/broadcast program chose "adorn" as the outgoing credits music for the first school announcements video segment of the year. it was a nice moment at the end of the program. (half of the kids in my homeroom were like i love this song! and half were like, who is this?)
― horseshoe, Friday, 21 September 2012 09:36 (eleven years ago) link
also waiting to hear which song had been chosen for the outro was the #1 thing my kids were invested in about the broadcast, so i choose to attach some *significance* to the choice.
― horseshoe, Friday, 21 September 2012 09:39 (eleven years ago) link
god the guitar ringing out suddenly 2/3 into "do you" >>>>>>>>>>>>
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 September 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link
good billboard feature: http://www.billboard.com/features/miguel-s-kaleidoscope-dream-inside-the-r-1007955262.story#/features/miguel-s-kaleidoscope-dream-inside-the-r-1007955262.story
also finally get an answer to my question about whether the song was lengthened after the fact: With radio stations already asking for the mixtape cut, Miguel agreed to return to the studio and add a bridge to the track, and soon "Adorn" became a three-minute, 14-second official single
― some dude, Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
I thought Lex said the exact opposite.
― did drake invent yolo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/v/JxKxShNHY-g&fs=1&hl=en
― r|t|c, Friday, September 21, 2012 5:32 AM (2 days ago)
this pleases meh
when is this gonna leak already
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah, maybe lex can clarify what was said? (xpost)
― some dude, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
Alicia Keys is apparently on the album version of "Candles in the Sun" :/
― The Reverend, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
lol ugh
― some dude, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
i hope just shouting "THERE'S NO SEPERATION, WE'RE ALL ONE!" in a british accent
I can't decide whether I loathe Alicia Keys or Rihanna with greater intensity.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
Interesting to note that All I Want Is You only sold roughly 1/40th of its eventual total in its first week out.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
iirc he also told me that adorn was always longer and that he put the shorter version on ADC
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
also that thing about alicia being on "candles in the sun" is incorrect. that was just a screw up in the complex article.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
miguel wrote "where's the fun in forever" while he was in jamaica doing work for her album, she ended up not taking the track for her album and she agreed to let him have it. they left some of her vocals on the song, but it's far from a duet or something.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
I like that "Do You" has this late 90s post-Timbo jitterbeatz thing going on rhythmically, but with a totally different sonic palette.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
btw Billboard article says that "Do You" is the next single and that the Target edition of the album will have bonus tracks (hopefully new-new stuff but i wouldn't mind some more ADC stuff getting included)
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
I think he said something about "do you..." being the next single back when it was called "drugs"
He did say something to me about doing some bonus tracks because the album isn't crazy long but I have no idea what those are
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 9:35 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Monday, 24 September 2012 05:26 (eleven years ago) link
i don't have the exact quote as i'm not in london with the recording right now, and i didn't put it in the piece, but i pretty much asked him directly and he answered directly. he could've been lying, artists have been known to do that!
― lex pretend, Monday, 24 September 2012 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
or maybe Billboard magazine is getting a little lax with their rigorous research standards ;)
― did drake invent yolo (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 24 September 2012 05:49 (eleven years ago) link
and now he's extending it even longer live :O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJSUXPXkSco
just incredible
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 07:44 (eleven years ago) link
33 songs, mostly old stuff. looks like there are a couple that have been rehabbed ("That I Do", "Pussy Is Mine").
http://words.obsqr.com/post/6620823199/obsqr-presents-miguel-free-and-young-143mb-a
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 08:22 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, great performance.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 24 September 2012 08:30 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQyTyDPV3BA
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 09:13 (eleven years ago) link
hmmm, I hadn't listened to the lyrics :/
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link
You know, I just realized "Adorn" is probably my favorite song since "Happy House" :O
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's def my favorite song in a very long time
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
album stream
http://www.npr.org/2012/09/24/161566783/first-listen-miguel-kaleidoscope-dream
― Number None, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
i sorta forgot how much of it we've already heard. New ones sound good though
― Number None, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
P---- Is Mine Artist: Miguel Album: Kaleidoscope DreamPlease be advised, this audio contains profanity.
Artist: Miguel Album: Kaleidoscope Dream
Please be advised, this audio contains profanity.
― Evan R, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
May go see him (if my schedule works out) Wednesday night at the (reopened and renovated) Howard Theatre
― curmudgeon, Monday, 24 September 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
Pizza Is Mine
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
i sorta forgot how much of it we've already heard.
That was my beef with all the post-ADC "previews" of this album. It was like seeing 2/3 of The Dark Knight Rises in advance, one 7-minute trailer at a time
― Evan R, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
Look at it this way: it'll be like buying FutureSex/LoveSounds or Rhythm Nation after you've heard the 67 singles.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, to be sure, it doesn't ruin the album or anything. it just waters down the experience of hearing it for the first time
― Evan R, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i've sort of come to peace with the whole thing. even the jessie ware album, it's the same thing. you've just got to step back and not hold it against an album if it arrives and we've already heard half of it.
i guess there is also the choice to not listen to any leaks.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
I don't mind since the single/3-5 song EP is my preferred choice of method of consumption these days
I'm haunted by an rtc comment: something like, 'lol at the idea of an album in 2012' or something to that effect
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
personally i think the best strategy nowadays is to do what jay/ye & frank ocean (and others) have done and that's to let one or two songs go before dropping the whole thing in full as a digital download. you probably get a nice windfall in sales and everyone gets that experience of hearing it for the first time together. buzz builds for a week and then you can drop the physical. but, maybe that takes a special kind of situation.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
might have been preferable to his own rap :/
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
and he drops a "YOLO" bomb .....
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
ha, "Where's The Fun In Forever" = where his hanging out w/ FlyLo, Thundercat, etc shows. definitely has that LA "beat scene" feel
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, September 24, 2012 1:24 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
ha, yes
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
On the other hand there's less "work" to put into listening to an album on which you've heard four tracks.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
btw for those who wondered what the original version of "That I Do" sounded like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sZ2qJyIi6A
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
So I'm curious to see whether all the critical enthusiasm and general good will surrounding Miguel translates into glowing "OMG, you need to buy this! You cannot ignore this!" reviews a la Frank Ocean, or just easier to phase out "Hey, this is pretty good for an R&B album because it's different" reviews
― Evan R, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
oh best case scenario it doesn't get half the critical hype FO has gotten
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
I find most of the Ocean an album a well-intentioned bore made by a talented guy whereas Miguel started as a talented guy whose already dropped at least six killer tracks this year.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
* omit the "an"
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
I like "Adorn" and "Arch N Point" more than any particular song on Channel Orange but don't find this album nearly as immersive.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
I'm delighted by both, obviously, but my overall experience with each artist so far is that Frank Ocean floors me at first but some of the shine fades over time, where Miguel's material just continues to keep growing on me, even despite absurd amounts of exposure
― Evan R, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like I'm going to end up listening to songs from this over and over rather than the album over and over.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
Which is the same as happened with AIWIY and ADC.
― Evan R, Monday, September 24, 2012 1:51 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah, probably the latter. people definitely embrace the weirdo aspects of miguel's persona and music, but i think the one thing about frank's album (objectively speaking) is that it had this perfect confluence of the artist getting a lot of attention as a celebrity and is music that sounds more like the type of black music that critics have always loved. it's a very strong, singular album imo but it has a wider appeal to critics than, say, the-dream. it's a hip soul album, more or less -- the type of thing that critics have privileged for years, but on the pop stage. miguel has won a lot of people over just because he's so damn good, but it's still not in that same classification as frank.
that said he'll be getting an exponentially higher amount of press now than he did w/ anything off his first record, so that alone is a major coup.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
He's made a ridiculous percentage of my favorite songs of the past couple years, but he hasn't quite mastered the album format.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean i'd buy that. i'm still rating 'channel orange' over this partly for that reason.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
Ergo, he should just keep releasing lots of amazing EPs.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, September 24, 2012 2:03 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
damn, you gotta hand down that proclamation on high the day the album starts streaming?
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
i think the one thing about frank's album (objectively speaking) is that it had this perfect confluence of the artist getting a lot of attention as a celebrity and is music that sounds more like the type of black music that critics have always loved. it's a very strong, singular album imo but it has a wider appeal to critics than, say, the-dream. it's a hip soul album, more or less
Yeah, I think that's fair. I was gushing over the Frank Ocean album with a music-critic friend last week, and he was explaining how Channel Orange was exactly the type of album he'd been waiting for, not from R&B per se, but just from a singer-songwriter in general. That album fills a really big hole
― Evan R, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
i guess i wouldn't say that he hasn't mastered the album format... one of my favorite things about this album is that i think all these different sounds make more sense when you hear them played straight through.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, September 24, 2012 11:06 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean, obv I'll give it room to grow, but I don't like most of the new songs (including the ones from the previews) nearly as much as my favorite stuff from the ADCs and I think the whole vibe is a bit more predictable whereas ADC was all about surprises.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
oh i think this album is way better than ADC. i mean those have the bangers but there was also some filler, intentional (reused tracks) and not ("party life"). this is dope all the way thru even tho it tails off a bit towards the end.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
for me now, like, now that "adorn" and "arch n point" are on this album, the only things i'll play off of the EPs are "...alll" (which wouldn't have fit on the album) and the OG version of "candles"
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
I still play "That I Do", "Gravity", and "Party Life" a hell of a lot in addition to those (other than "Candles", which is just whatever in both versions). I do think I like ADC as a project more than Kaleidoscope Dream.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
Then again, only Kaleidoscope Dream has the third minute of "Adorn"...
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
I'll add some enthusiasm to the pot: This record rules. It sounds nothing if not masterly to me, including the new songs ("Pussy" aside). I loved AIWIY, too, but that album was all over the place. This one covers as much ground without feeling so scattered.
I come from a different perspective than the Rev, though. The album is important to me as a format, and this is a great album.
― Evan R, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
8. “Where’s the Fun in Forever?”9. “Arch & Point”
A+ album sequencing here (had nearly worn out the latter but once it kicked in, it suddenly seemed fresh)
― Andy K, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
"all" is definitely the ADC exclusive that i keep going back to
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
I do think this album is better than AIWIY, which never really clicked with me beyond the singles despite my best efforts.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
This one covers as much ground without feeling so scattered.
I agree with this, but I think part of my reservations stem from it being a bit too singular in its vibe? It could use a wild curveball or two.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
Pu$$y song is so lame and pointless, idk. The rest is cool though.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
I certainly appreciate a good album! But I don't consider it sacrosanct, no. I probably prefer the EP as a format at this point. I suspect Miguel does, too.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
"...All" is second only to "Arch n Point" in replay value on my iPod, so unless he sticks it on a comp eventually its lack of availability will probably add to its aura.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, September 24, 2012 2:25 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think there are at least a couple songs on here that could be considered a 'wild curveball' if the whole album was being heard for the first time at once
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
the "I didn't realize we were recording" framing device is kind of infuriating. would have preferred a fully orchestrated/ gospel choired "broads"
― rob, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
the "I didn't realize we were recording" framing device is kind of infuriating.
I like "Pussy Is Mine", but this.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
I'll probably just end up inserting the original version, which as far as I can tell is otherwise identical into the running order.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, September 24, 2012 2:39 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i mean definitely "use me" and "don't look back" were pretty surprising to me and if i was just hearing this blind i'd be pretty engrossed with where it goes sonically
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
it's easy to forget how much of an outlier "Adorn" is because it's the first track/lead single, too
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny, when i talked to him he seemed kind of, like, ashamed by "how many drinks" and to a lesser extent "adorn" because they're the most r&b songs on the record and the ones most aimed at the radio but even those are pretty damn singular sounding for radio joints
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
As cheesy as this sounds, I'm gratified that Miguel still managed to take "Adorn" to #1; it was no....sure thing.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
oh definitely.... it's a special song. that anecdote that al relayed about the radio DJs mirrors the reaction i've seen/heard from most people who have heard the song. it's just such a gorgeous, likable song.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
as a lady i am very pro-'pussy is mine'
― maura, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
the Baltimore station STILL plays the 2-minute "Adorn," which is kind of charming but mostly frustrating, doesn't feel complete to me anymore
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
loving the first listen. "do you" would definitely be a curve ball.
in fact hes about curve balls (except for adorn)
very important: thank god a short album
― moullet, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
a+ sequencing throughout, which i worried about having gotten to know half the tracks through three song eps
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, September 24, 2012 2:00 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Reverend, Monday, September 24, 2012 2:00 PM (4 hours ago)
what songs are you skipping on AIWIY? 0_o
psyched to listen to this, and that 33-song thing!
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
― maura, Monday, September 24, 2012 2:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, i'm not a lady, but i'm a huge fan of the track too
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
pretty thrilled w/ the final album, although i think i liked the original "Candle" more than most people and he really fucked it up on the album imo
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
AIWIY is probably my favorite album of the past 3 years. close call between it and LTTP
xxp to myself
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I agree that the old version is better but I sorta get what he was going for sonically at least with it coming after "pussy is mine"
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it makes a certain sense. maybe knowing it was the live band arrangement makes me hear it that way but it doesn't sound studio enough to fit w/ the rest of the album imo.
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
What I love most about this boy is how much he loves to sing. I could listen to "Where's The Fun in Forever" a cappella.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
his voice is insane, i was boggling at that "Adorn" live youtube upthread today
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
Like I said, it never really clicked with me beyond the singles even though I gave it plenty of opportunities. I did delete that out of place electro song right off the bat tho. Hearing that it's your favorite album of the past few years is kind of bizarre to me tbh.
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, September 24, 2012 6:25 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Monday, September 24, 2012 6:27 PM (3 minutes ago)
so otm, his is my favorite voice in r&b right now. i think the one i posted a couple weeks ago is an even better example
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
ok first time hearing 'the thrill' and it's kind of amazing
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
think I'm gonna have the ^^ reaction to all the songs that weren't on the ADC EPs, honestly.
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, September 24, 2012 6:27 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
album version of candle in the sun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ADC version
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
After living with "The Thrill" for a couple weeks, I can't remember a note of it. :/
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
really? i love that song
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
the rhythm of that song is so cool and disorienting
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
for me that's more true of 'kaleidoscope dream' if anything xp
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
i definitely hadn't committed the new Water/Air preview songs to memory already, though, but that's a good thing, lets me hear the album as an album
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, September 24, 2012
It's the album's sleeper imo.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
The title track connected with me the quickest of any of the new songs. It may just be that the Labi Siffre sample made my ears perk up immediately. I do like the song quite a bit though, even if it's not quite as good as "Use Me" or "Do You".
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
"Do You" is sick, starting to get really excited about the prospect of hearing it on the radio
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that song just routinely blows my mind
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
the "where's the fun" bassline is so crazy
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
album is just full of killer basslines
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah imma side with barthes on this one
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
madness imo
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know, i don't really like the filter on miguel's voice, and something about the instrumentation makes the song seem more meandering than it is. think it really comes into its own as a song on the album version. also prefer the hook as a totally sung thing.
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer the album CITS too but it still plays like a B-side: the kind of track on which he tries something without quite hitting it.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
i like how evil and clausterphobic the ADC version sounds
― some dude, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
removal of the lennon sample may have influenced my call
― barthes simpson, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
was also gonna say
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
haha i like it
― some dude, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
this is good, but it seems sort of...slight? some cool production and obviously there's nothing like his voice, but it's not the cinematic experience AIWIY was; there's no centerpiece like "teach me" that just leaves you reeling
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
oh alright, "how many drinks" is pretty much a perfect little song
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link
oh, the rapping
hold on, do i have a different copy?
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:18 (eleven years ago) link
hm, i'm missing "where's the fun"
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the double-tracking of his vocals on "how many drinks" is really nicely done, makes it sound like the song is floating away from you as you're listening to it; it's almost flirtatious
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
how many drinks turns amazing when he drops back into his lower register towards the end
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 05:00 (eleven years ago) link
wow you all have talked a lot about an album that you've already heard half of!
(i can't listen until tomorrow :( )
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
i def heard the qualms re "pussy is mine" but it's a pretty bravely fragile, even subversive track. how often does a male r&b singer say "you make me cum"?? it's plays nice with how bombastic "use me" is
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 08:15 (eleven years ago) link
thiiis is sooo goooooood
― heiswagger (rennavate), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
help you bring your mind to a better placeteach each other how to rennavateyeah, rennavate
― some dude, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
In my ordered-by-album iTunes playlist Kaleidoscope Dream goes straight into Destroyer's Kaputt, and it's not remotely jarring
― Evan R, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
Also: "babies on crack" is still unintentionally funny. Was hoping he'd rewrite that lyric.
one more for the live "adorn" compendium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9PoWVOMI8k&feature=youtu.be
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
that didn't post right?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 04:14 (eleven years ago) link
hmm, n/m
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link
:(
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link
kind of annoyed i missed hi when he was in london the other week
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 08:04 (eleven years ago) link
*him
more annoyed that i can't type today
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 08:05 (eleven years ago) link
Really? This feels totally coherent and of-a-piece to me, possibly because the sound is so coherent even when the songwriting goes to loads of different places.
I really like this by the way, haven't paid much attention to Miguel before now but I'm glad I got to hear all these songs for the first time at once. It's so self-assured, like you get the feeling a lesser talent would either have hedged their bets and thrown in a couple of rote house bangers OR just gone totally over-the-top with the psychedelia and produced some kind of garish Solange-does-Flaming-Lips mess.
Will admit I feared the worst on hearing the outro to Don't Look Back but he never lets the aesthetic or the instrumentation overwhelm either the voice or the songwriting, both of which are by and large impeccable.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 27 September 2012 10:12 (eleven years ago) link
This album is truly amazing. Love it.
― longneck, Thursday, 27 September 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link
hang on "candles in the sun" is a completely different version of the ADC one? awesome
― lex pretend, Thursday, 27 September 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
your beloved Lennon is gone!
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
He was pretty good live last night at the Howard Theatre in DC. Sold-out show, lots of enthusiastic women. He was backed by a guitarist, keyboardist who also played bass, another keyboardist and a drummer. Did a fair amount of Prince-inspired dance moves with the mic. His seduction effor with a woman upfront on the "P is Mine" did not go over too well, but his friendly and humble chatter later did, as did the brief tribute to Los Angeles rap and his hits and more. Played for about an hour and 10 minutes.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 September 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
jealous that you went, i really wanted to
he's playing morgan state's homecoming in a couple weeks w/ 2 chainz and elle varner, i should figure out some way to go
― the definition of fuckshit bird (some dude), Thursday, 27 September 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
He's in Philly tonight. A number of folks immediately headed to the door right when the main part of the set ended and before he came back for an encore. I guess expectations are so low for live r'n'b shows that people didn't thing he would do one. Yes, it was a work/school night but it was not that late. Oh, Bobby Valentino opened last night. He was ok. I think you're trying too hard when you pull your shirt off after only the second song.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
i think encores are less expected outside of the rock show context, at least for people that don't go to a lot of concerts in general.
― the definition of fuckshit bird (some dude), Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
It's pretty amusing that 'Pussy Is Mine' is bookended with this sort of fake sheepishness and shunted at the end of the album. If this were a Terius album it would be wonderfully and unashamedly blown up into a 10mins vainglorious album centrepiece and split into 'Pussy Is Mine (Parts 1 and 2)'.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
"where's the fun" is pretty inessential
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
i like it a lot?
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
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― the definition of fuckshit bird (some dude), Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:20 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it's weird i was at the weekend last night and he didn't come back for an encore, but the crowd waited around for one, but actually didn't cheer/chant for one? very odd...
― heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
also this is finally out in the wild
― heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
think it was probably mentioned upthread, but is anybody else of the opinion that pizza is mine is on there to dispel gay rumors?
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
not if you've dated guys who are p-----?
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
jesus christ i love how that metronome sound is used in "arch & point"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
oh I didn't know that it was also slang
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 27 September 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i thought this for a bit but it makes a lot more sense to me/i like it a lot more now that rev pointed out its similarities to thundercat
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
― barthes simpson, Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:36 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
outside this thread i'm not sure there are any more gay rumors about miguel than there are about pretty much every popular R&B singer
― some dude, Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
also it's not exactly the most masculine thing a dude could write
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
haha ok i get alfred's post now
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 27 September 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
apparently Kaleidoscope Dream and a lot of other albums dropped early on vinyl this week to make the Grammys deadline
― some dude, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
i noticed a few months ago that he was selling the vinyl on his website and that it shipped a week early but i thought it was just some general incentive to get ppl to spring for the vinyl
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Friday, 28 September 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
I wld buy a copy on vinyl
― barthes simpson, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
Where's The Fun is great. The only bits I'm not sold on yet are the title track and The Thrill.
― Matt DC, Friday, 28 September 2012 08:40 (eleven years ago) link
Fall into forever / just forgive me I was faithless
That's probably my favorite moment on the album
― Evan R, Friday, 28 September 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:1
"Use Me" and "Don't look Back" both sounded great live Wednesday night. Not overblown or overwrought.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
ftr there are some gems on that 33-song compilation rev posted upthread. "magazines" in particular, some others i can't remember. many of these are probably early cuts and he's still looking for his voice (figuratively, but literally sometimes - i'm almost posotive ne-yo is actually singing "hand it over"), but the quality is surprisingly good overall
a bunch of these are songs for other artists i had no idea he wrote
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 September 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
i think he was nominated for a grammy for a song he did with musiq... also he wrote some joints on 'raymond vs raymond' (including "mars vs. venus" !!)
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Friday, 28 September 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
"i feel the night approaching / the moon is calling me" on don't look back beginning sounds like night air !
― moullet, Friday, 28 September 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
Grammy nomination was for co-writing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEpfuzjHvxU
― Andy K, Friday, 28 September 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
"where's the fun in forever" is one of the best joints on here
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
was just thinking right now that it's interesting to me that he wrote everything here w/in a pretty pop structure... like for his "alternative," "live-driven" album the longest song on this is just 4:45. after hearing the "use me" & "don't look back" i would've put money on there being like one 8 min song or something.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
also interesting to me is that i believe when he says that he set out to do something that was liked by tastemakers even if it didn't continue his career trajectory as a radio star and then he goes out and writes the biggest pop hit of his career, boosts his profile considerably with hipsters and the general public and probably has a few more on the way.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think his idea of arty or experimental is still really focused on hooks, melody, emotion, vocal performances, and just taking musical chances that can foreground those elements. which i love, very keyed in to what i like to hear. (xpost)
― some dude, Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
i am pretty curious to see if this album has the same kind of run of 3-4 big radio hits like the last one, and what those songs end up being.
yeah... i could see "drugs" and "how many drinks?" both doing pretty well at radio even if they don't come close to scraping "adorn" -- he should do big first week numbers either way tho
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
i think the song i'm crossing my fingers for single hopes the most is "Use Me"
― some dude, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
after "adorn" did so well i've given up on predicting what songs have a shot at being a hit
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
the album version immediately turned me around on thinking that song had radio potential
― some dude, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
i was definitely happy when they ran with it as a single after the EPs cuz i think it definitely had picked up some steam on the internet but i definitely didn't expect it to be his biggest radio hit ever
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link
definitely
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link
when i talked to him "adorn" was just starting to get radio play and he was saying that he didn't write any songs for the radio and i was sort of contemplating the idea of him disassociating from the major system and going indie or something, but that certainly isn't happening anytime soon now.
damn i definitely wrote definitely three times in that post
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean he had a lot of momentum off the last record but mid-level R&B stars are on such shaky ground these days, you can have a couple big hits one year and then just start shooting nothing but blanks for no real obvious reason, wouldn't have shocked me if he'd started slipping off the radar right now
― some dude, Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah me either. he played me an early version of "how many drinks?" and i was like "ah well they've got that one at least, maybe people will think it's a lovely mmts song"
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
I'm still floored that "Adorn" hit #1. If he gets "Use Me" into the R&B top twenty I'll be ready to give all the credit for Miguel's A&R guys and promotion for the way they've finessed his exposure in the last eight months.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
haha i wrote "somewhat" three different times in a somewhat important email a few days ago and was really pissed at myself about it, it happens somewhat more frequently than we'd like xxp
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
do you like adverrrrrbsme too
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
"how many drinks" seems like the most immediate, most surefire choice, but again who knows. plus i really love that song...that's another thing you realize listening to that old collection of songs, he doesn't really take advantage of his amazing voice like he does with his songs these days
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
you know Second Album Syndrome? This is one where the artist gets it right: honing skills, sure, but also using newfound confidence to unearth new ones.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 28, 2012 10:41 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think this renaissance is pretty artist-driven. all the ADC stuff was very much his vision & all financed by him... ime he works with a pretty small team. "adorn" is certainly, like, he wrote a classic joint and pushed it himself initially before it really took off (his people may have suggested he write a final minute or maybe it already existed, who knows). but if he strings together multiple hits off this album it's genius shit on his part.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
that jaheim song he wrote that won a grammy is dope. is his album worth checking out (jaheim's)? i really liked some of his early songs ("fabulous" in particular is a gem)
― heiswagger (rennavate), Sunday, 30 September 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
been wondering that myself. I havent checked his stuff for a long time.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 30 September 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
anyone think this one is better than his first?
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
i think you and i are the only people who have spent a lot of time than the first, so it's kind of a moot point (too soon to tell for me but i am pretty high on the new one at the moment).
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of time WITH the first
i like the new one a lot too but my impression of it hasn't really changed since i first listened to it - i've listened to it about 5 times and my favorites aren't really changing from listen to listen like with the first, and i'm not really discovering new things buried in the songs to love, as i STILL am with the first. i think it's a fine follow-up though, much better than some of the other follow-ups i'd been anticipating by other favorite artists of mine over the past couple years
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
I've been busy all week and haven't had a chance to listen more than once, but I was under the impression most people think this is better than the first album? I think your perspective of the first album's reception is fairly skewed by your love of it.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
no i know that people slept on miguel's first album. he wasn't on pitchfork all the time back then, so it's not surprising
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i don't think anyone really rates the first album that highly
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
It's not that I slept on it, it's just that I didn't enjoy it that much.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:13 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark
*puts head on chin, leans forward*
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
;)
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/michelle_obama2012-chin-on-fist-wide.jpg
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
first album both has more good songs and higher highs, though "adorn" might be his best song. new one is very good at what it aims to be, which is a breezy, pleasant 40-minute record, but it isn't the trip the first was
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
don't really think you're listening to it right if "breezy, pleasant" is what you're getting from it
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
maybe k3v downloaded a bad leak?
― barthes simpson, Monday, 1 October 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
doubt it but i was talking more about the songcraft than the sonics, admittedly, which haven't grabbed me one way or another
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
first album has ... higher highs, though "adorn" might be his best song.
this sentence contradicts itself?
i still think "sure thing" is his best song but the rest of kaleidoscope dream kills his first album, though i really might just shove "...all" after "arch & point", i'm so used to that coming next and it's probably the greatest ADC track that didn't get reused.
― lex pretend, Monday, 1 October 2012 06:00 (eleven years ago) link
well i said "might" - in any event the first one has his like 2nd through 5th best songs
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry if this was discussed hotheads but what the he'll happened to gravity?
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
Hotheads = up thread. You all seem very chill
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
lol great typo
what happened like why isn't it on the album? i mean only 3 of the EP songs are on the album, 2 of which were radically changed, and "Gravity" was never a huge favorite.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
i'm glad the album is mostly different?
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
Just seemed like it would do well as a single imo.
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
i've listened to it about 5 times and my favorites aren't really changing from listen to listen like with the first, and i'm not really discovering new things buried in the songs to love,
totally opposite experience of this record
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
it looks like the Target deluxe edition contains "...All," "Gravity" and
and
::shudder::
http://www.youtube.com/v/pdiL01PRtWI&fs=1&hl=en
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
wow that hat is fucking terrible
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah my copy has those two songs.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
hat is hilarious
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
the combination of that outfit and i guess wiz's height makes miguel look like a midget in that photo
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
ok he can't be gay because only Elton John would dress so terribly
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
miguel's a good dresser but that outfit is horrifying
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
wiz makes miguel look short like miguel makes wiz look dignified
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
Gravity is a huge favorite of mine; I was gonna post that that & ...All got hosed, so this Target Deluxe Edition is welcome news.
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
miguel is tiny tho, he's maybe 5' 7"
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not saying he's not usually short, i'm saying wiz is not usually dignified
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
"do you?" is the best song to sing along to
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
also, has anyone talked about the censored 'fuck's on "how many drinks?"? is this artistic decision, because the album has a parental advisory diclaimer, so why censor it still?
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
I like the little laser noises at those moments, it's probably an artistic decision.
Either that or my leaked version is ripped off from a censored stream.
― Matt DC, Monday, 1 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean i'm cool with it being artistic, cause those laser noises are dope, and it's a more effective by omission kinda thing then.
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
i think my least favorite song on this is "where's the fun in forever" although it's still a good song
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
haha so far there's no consensus
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
freelancer Sarah G*dfrey's interview with Miguel for the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/miguel-creates-his-own-randb-path-on-kaleidoscope-dream/2012/10/01/36b1b4d4-09ba-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_story.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
DO YOU LIKE HUGS?
― Roland Pemberton, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVn8kQQhDo4
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
Has had a girlfriend for 7 years, supposedly.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
i couldn't get through much of that asinine 'interview'
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
i couldn't even start it
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
fuck those guys
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah it was horrible.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
Those guys are the scum of the earth.
― longneck, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
Couldn't watch it either, but "Are you gay?" should be an off-limits question in all interviews
― Evan R, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
(Even in the case of artists like Frank Ocean and—to a much, much lesser extent—Miguel, whose songwriting gives some reason to suspect they might be)
"Are you gay?" asked by two choads who make gross Rihanna jokes is off limits
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think a writer could ask this question because you can go off record or if the artist doesn't want to talk about it you can just pretend like you didn't ask it, but in a live setting like that it's pretty shitty
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
in a weird way i think it's kind of better for someone to be able to face down that question live on the air, compared to how gossip blogs constantly insinuate that kind of thing without asking the person directly, or even in print where they can massage the context of their answer with a bunch of "he said, as he shifted uncomfortably in his chair and quickly changed the subject" type stuff.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
imo there's just a lot of sweet-voiced men singing love songs throughout the music industry, and they ain't all gay, but in R&B there's been such a strong undercurrent of hip hop bravado the last decade or two that anyone who doesn't carry themselves that way is under suspicion and it's kinda dumb.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
That's true to a point. I can think of few situations in which "Are you gay?" asked live isn't designed to (a) elicit a squirm from the subject (b) be sensationalist at the expense of the subject.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
like, I guess Tavis Smiley can ask and be cool.
"true to a point" = ship's penultimate post
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm not saying the on-air gotcha is better as a rule, just saying in some ways being that bald-faced about it is preferable to the alternative
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
Not to defend these guys, but "Didn't people arbitrarily make up a gay rumor about you recently?" is a lot less direct than "Are you gay?"
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
performing on 106 & Park for 30 minutes this evening?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
"use me" totally hit me on the train back to london this evening
i love the natural way he flips between nervous submission and aggression in the chorus, over and over
the album is really wonderfully sequenced in its final form - almost perfect even if the nature of its release means you can't help but want to make a couple of tweaks
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
all 3 new songs are completely crucial to it imo - love "where's the fun..." - it's one of those albums where every song seems to balance the final work out just that little bit better
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
it even makes me happier about my whatever-ness towards "adorn" because it's just a trifle of an intro, it doesn't ask me to be all starry-eyed about it
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
one day, lex, you too will love 'adorn'
― barthes simpson, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
this album is fantastic. listening to it at home--as opposed to streaming it at work--the whole thing sounded great. lex otm about how well it's laid out. album version of "candles" is hugely superior, not even sure how that was an issue upthread. have to say, I don't see anything else on this being a hit like "Adorn" but maybe that's just a testament to how strong it is as a collection
― rob, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
i do have mild anxiety that he'll end up w/ The-Dream's career arc (three big singles off the first album, even bigger single off the lead single and then radio turns its back) but i have a feeling this'll do well with follow-up singles.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
er 'even bigger lead single off the second album'
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
will be happy to be proven completely wrong of course, but in a way lex is sort of right about "adorn"--it is a trifle, a beautiful one that has an immediacy that's really compelling and easy to connect with, and it stands out on the album. but w/e hopefully I'm way off, it would be nice if he caught on in a big way
― rob, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
In the last few weeks I've argued with a group of music critics who view this album as a pleasant muddle at best (and who prefer Frank Ocean's record).
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
oh hai
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
Actually, I've probably been overstating my ambivalence. It's definitely one of my top ten albums of the year, it's just that my expectations were sky high.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
says the guy who was lukewarm on the rest of miguel's career to this point?
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:18 (eleven years ago) link
what? he only made my favorite song of the past several years? I thought I was pretty clearly on record as being a huge booster of the Art Dealer Chic EPs and loving the singles from the first album.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
do you video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-BW2gKnVz8
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:43 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is an interesting parallel but for whatever reason it feels like miguel has more momentum right now?
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
intense excitement at watching new video dampened slightly by ad below the video through which I find out chris brown has a single out called 'don't judge me'
― barthes simpson, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
or maybe i'm projecting but i guess i always sort of felt like we were on this wild ride with terius, like it was so hilarious & crazy that he turned into a radio star that i wasn't even really surprised when it dried up. terius felt to me like an autuer who happened to trickle up in a weird flash, but miguel feels like a career radio artist who just happens to be sneaking really good, cool shit into his songs.
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
he looked pretty awkward kissing that girl against the wall
― barthes simpson, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
hey everybody, aren't you excited about the OFFICIAL remix of "Adorn" featuring Wiz Khalifa? no? wait, where are you going?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
i think that's just a freestyle that they tacked onto the album since it already existed
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
haha i posted that itt the other day
a LOT of 'official remixes' these days start out as some big star doing a freestyle and then the orig. artist's label goes and decides to put their cosign on it
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ the headphones scene for that moment in the song, kind of perfect
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 08:07 (eleven years ago) link
For whatever it's worth, the internet tells me that's his real life girlfriend Nazanin Mandi.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 08:57 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:07 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^^^^^
― moullet, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
damn his girl is beautiful, lucky dog
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
Yep. His hair is getting legendary too.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
y'all missed this shit? http://necolebitchie.com/2012/08/10/miguel-does-sexy-shoot-with-girlfriend-nazanin/
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://imdatingablackguy.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/azaqjv9ciaapdie-large.jpg?w=1000&h=
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
his hair is too
http://i.imgur.com/K75lK.jpg
― barthes simpson, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
if you look closely there's visible pussy in that photo (xpost)
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
had an amazing moment vibesing to adorn on the underground yesterday when i walked past a near-exact miguel doppelganger, this lil tiny stylish mexi-asiatic lookin dude rocking an impressive quiff wearing a leather jacket. sort of wanted to pick him up and throw him in the air in celebration
then a moment of terror thinking i can't believe i used to have an even bigger quiff than that wait how many of those guys do i ever see in life was that him????
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
had an amazing moment vibesing to adorn on the underground yesterday when i walked past a near-exact miguel doppelganger, this lil tiny stylish mexi-asiatic lookin dude rocking an impressive quiff wearing a leather jacket. sort of wanted to pick him up
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
mm, maybe for a garden gnome
is 'do you' the official next single then? sounded like a smash to me but i wondered if they'd edit out druuuugs and more importantly how exactly. anyone heard it in the wild?
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
It'll be fascinating watching "Do You" climb the R&B chart
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
i think it's always been planned as the follow up to "adorn" and i guess they're going through with that
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
i wondered if they'd edit out druuuugs and more importantly how exactly.
single version on spotify goes "do you like looooove"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
it reasons that's why they changed the name from "drugs" to "do you..."
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
OK, so it's a quite a weird track that way, right? I really like it a lot, but find myself thinking in pretty open-ended ways about the sentiment, and the way it's phrased.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
well it's a pun, it starts out with "do you like drugs" like a question and then at the end adds "i'm gonna do you like drugs tonight"
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
so does he say "i'm gonna do you like love tonight"? need to listen to that single edit
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
if you look closely there's visible pussy in that photo (xpost)― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:25 PM
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:25 PM
ha, this took me a minute
― alpine static, Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
pussy is yours
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/sammybananas/miguel-adorn-sammy-bananas-1
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 4 October 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's very good
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
best new music
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
Sweet, now I can talk about it!
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link
i think it's a pretty nice accomplishment, actually
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah its cool.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
i sort of said this before but it's nice to see him rewarded for his reverse-crossover attempt while still being able to grow his core fanbase. a pretty rare feat.
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:32 (eleven years ago) link
Indeed.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 05:33 (eleven years ago) link
Good review.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 06:01 (eleven years ago) link
What a remix!
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
like the review, don't like the ELEVEN frank ocean headlines underneath the review
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
If the Gibbs tape is an 8.2, this is a 9.4 though.
― longneck, Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
what review?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
p4k?
― pandemic, Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
weird quote from that: 'a wonderfully considered album from an artist who was starting to seem a lot like a forgotten gem in the wake of mishandled promotion.'
wasn't Sure Thing a huge huge hit r&b chart hit? do they just mean 'indie people weren't listening until now' ?
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
his first album could be considered a commercial triumph or totally under the radar depending on what lens you're viewing it through, but yeah that way of phrasing it was pretty false.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's what i mean, the lens of 'what people in brooklyn/portland are listening to' is pretty reductive
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
well it could also be viewed as unsuccessful through the lens of "doesn't sell as much/cross over to pop radio as much as Usher or Chris Brown"
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
The demographics at his Howard Theatre show in DC seemed like 99% African-American (and mostly women) which is reflective of that prior inability to crossover to pop or indie
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
are they not a pop audience?
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
is this really the 2nd time this week on this board that i have to explain "pop as genre vs. pop as in 'popular'"
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
Except that isn't what he was saying.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
i introduced the 'pop crossover' subject to the conversation, curmudgeon continued it understanding what i meant, and jamie responded to it seemingly not understanding what i meant.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
Right. I think Jamie and Mat may have misunderstood me. I did not think I had to break down for anyone here the difference between industry marketing terms for genre and for radio formats, or to explain that yes r'n'b songs can be considered pop in the US when they reach the Billboard chart that is labeled "pop songs' or "hot 100". If Jamie and you want to complain to Billboard that they have an "r'n'b/rap" category (yes I think they put those 2 gneres together) separate from a "pop songs" one, and that ilx has a rolling R'n'b thread that is separate from a rolling pop songs thread.
Perhaps I should have also referred back to Some Dude's Village voice piece from awhile back regarding the declining number of r'n'b songs crossing over onto the pop radio hits format
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
miguel is kind of a perfect case study for that kind of thing too -- "sure thing" was billboard's #1 r&b chart song of last year, but #92 on the year-end hot 100
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Thursday, 4 October 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
use mewanna give you controlwith the lights onif I could just let goforgive meit's the very first timethat I'm nervouscan I trust you?trust mewhile I take this offwith the lights oncuz it turns me onif you're nervousjust let me show youhow to touch meI can teach you
^^^^^^^^the realness from opposite ends in this chorus, the way he elides both. incredible
― lex pretend, Friday, 5 October 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
like a lesser song would have made that a duet but miguel makes them the same thing
― lex pretend, Friday, 5 October 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
i moved down south pretty much exactly a year ago and 'sure thing' has been on the radio consistently the entire time
― Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 5 October 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
Lex otm
― zEUS and Roxanne (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 5 October 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Friday, 5 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
this record is great, finally got around to it.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
The first five or six songs so is such an astonishing run of greatness.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
letterman tonight iirc
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
am i the only one who likes the title track? didn't see a lot of love for it.
i know a frank ocean comparison is probably boring/facile, but god listening to this highlights how restrained and lacking in variety that record was.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
The title track was the first I'm warmed to when I heard the full sequence.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
yeah same, replayed it 3/4 times.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
i'm still trying to figure out the comparison he makes in that song to piano keys
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
Miguel is touring, along with Elle Varner, as an opener on the upcoming Trey Songz tour (which I have mixed feelings about, b/c I really don't need to see Trey Songz three times in less than two years, especially when he's touring behind a sub-par album, plus I'd rather see Miguel headline). But it's an interesting pairing.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
songs like "don't look back," "use me" and "the thrill" were heavily influenced by him being on the usher/trey songz tour a few years back
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, there's way more overlap between him and those artists than most writeups of him (or even this thread) would suggest. Trey Songz has become lazy shorthand for "R&B status quo," which really doesn't do justice to some of his bolder experiments, and it's probably not a stretch to cast Kaleidoscope Dream as a much more successful/committed/realized version of what Usher was trying to do on his last album.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
All three artists are, to some extent, advancing or experimenting with the genre from the inside, which is a narrative that needs to be better told in the wake of last year's overstated "outsiders are reinventing R&B" thinkpieces
― Evan R, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
Funny – I love the Usher album, warts and all, because Miguel's EP's taught me to earlier this year.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't listened to that usher album since early summer and i think it's mostly a "pick 5 songs and delete" kind of thing
evan is right tho about narratives
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:39 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Please go on. I think you're right but haven't really been able to develop any rational argument around this myself. I also believe there must be another and more interesting way of framing this "r&b has gone eurotrash on us, wave goodbye" narrative that's circulating a lot right now. Just not sure what it is.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
i think the Miguel/Trey/Usher thing is pretty right, for three guys whose careers all started at least 5+ years apart from each other they've all ended up at pretty similar spots at the moment that don't feel entirely due to chasing the same trends or whatever. and all 3 are pretty high caliber vocalists and radio killers, which is not so much the case w/ all of the people driving the recent thinkpiece narratives.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
usher, really? he's always chased trends and his latest album is just trying to chase every trend at once. it's usually a good look for him.
also ahem my dawn/nina sky/miguel/wynter piece was about (almost) this exact thing
trey is not really interesting enough for me to want to cover in this narrative
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
eh i said not 'entirely' -- usher's latest definitely has that problem for me, but if anything the whiff of desperation is stronger in his haircut than the album
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
big homie sold 69k this week
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
I also believe there must be another and more interesting way of framing this "r&b has gone eurotrash on us, wave goodbye" narrative that's circulating a lot right now. Just not sure what it is.
It's probably way to early to posit this wishful theory, but I'm beginning to wonder if the eurotrash R&B trend is on its way out. Chris Brown saw less return on his latest round of dance singles than his last round, and it's telling that Usher's "Climax" outperformed "Scream," which didn't do as well on the pop charts as Usher's previous dance singles either. (Chris Brown in particular got a lot less urban radio play for his new album than he did with his last one, so he saw diminished returns across two formats). Meanwhile, Trey Songz has had a nice singles run appealing primarily to urban formats, and Ne-Yo seems to be slowly but surely returning back to reality. I wouldn't be surprised to see all these artists trend a bit more urban and a bit less pop on their next records. But again, could be wishful thinking.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
well, a year ago Ne-Yo was saying his next album would have no dance pop, now he's saying that's 50% of the album. and also the pop single's doing better than the urban single.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
I've definitely noticed EDM-pop in general getting a bit less dominant. Nothing in the style has hit #1 since January.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
xp Ah, didn't know Ne-Yo said it'd be 50/50. Most of the advance tracks I've heard from R.E.D. have been better than expected and decidedly urban-leaning, so I was hoping "Let Me Love You" was just a "Beautiful Monster"-ish outlier. But Tim McGraw is on the album so who the hell knows; it could be a Nelly record
― Evan R, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:34 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'll take it.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
the Ne-Yo track on McGraw's own album is...interesting. He plays Faith Hill for all intents and purposes.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sort of excited about that song not even in a train wreck way because the one with nelly is so fucking good
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm curious about it for the same reason i mostly don't mind Ne-Yo's pop stuff -- he has such a clean, adaptable vocal style that he can go outside R&B without as much inherent strain as most of his contemporaries.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
on the McGraw album he's clearly exploiting memories of Lionel Richie-Kenny Rogers collabbs
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
didn't he write some songs for Lionel?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
and Akon!
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
as in, Akon and Stargate were on that album (2008 or 2009?)
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
yeah Ne-Yo is definitely cut from an MJ/Lionel Richie/Babyface type cloth where leaning pop seems to come so natural that holding him to an R&B purism standard feels pointless
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
fantastic as ever on letterman
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
yup. keeps tweaking the arrangement, too.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 07:44 (eleven years ago) link
one thing I've noticed that kind of sux tho, afaict he's never performed "Arch and Point" live?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 07:45 (eleven years ago) link
miguel looks like he finished practicing his dance moves 5 minutes before he took stage
― barthes simpson, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
Great performance. Makes me want to go see him again live. Thursday night he's at that Morgan State Homecoming show in Baltimore that Some Dude mentioned: 2 Chainz, Miguel and Elle Varner
Why is the deluxe version of KD with "Gravity" and "All" added, $28.99 from Amazon US? Actually they're calling it "limited edition" so I guess that explains it.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
it will only cost 29 dollars for a limited time
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
what song did he do - adorn?
http://pitchfork.com/news/48163-watch-miguel-on-letterman/
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
Love the chain.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
I like 'Use Me' but it seems kinda out of place on the album to me. Like a Depeche Mode cover slapped bang in the middle of an r n b album.
― pandemic, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think of "Use Me" as being an outlier in that way at all! if anything "Don't Look Back" sticks out more as not very R&B.
the D.C. grown folks R&B station, which usually only plays the occasional new joint by Maxwell or whoever amongst 70s and 80s stuff, has picked up on "Adorn"
― some dude, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Funny how "Adorn" actually makes more sense on grown-folks R&B formats
― Evan R, Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'm actually starting to think I might like 'Use Me' more than 'Adorn'
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
I do.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
me too
― lex pretend, Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
At least a third of the album is as much stadium rock as r&b and Use Me is especially so, but it doesn't seem particularly out of place.
I'll never be able to hear another bit of Coldplay style anthemic falsetto bluster without imagining how much better Miguel would be able to make it sound though.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
When he goes for "stadium rock", he goes for stadium rock in the Purple Rain sense tho, tightly wrapped up in r&b. It's not like he's trying to be Coldplay or their ilk.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
he makes stadium rock feel really intimate
― lex pretend, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
like, just you & him in a massive stadium
ha otm!
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
When he goes for "stadium rock", he goes for stadium rock in the Purple Rain sense tho, tightly wrapped up in r&b
Oh yeah totally. The Coldplay thing was more of an aside really, like it suddenly occurred to me that Miguel would probably be the single artist most likely to take some drippy Coldplay type stadium ballad and make it amazing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Thursday, October 11, 2012
omg
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
Purple Rain was Prince's attempt at writing a Bob Seger song.
true story
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 October 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
i ain't judgin, if you do decide that you might be fuckin tonightmore power to you if you do decide that you might be fuckin tonight
^ this lyric is kinda radical
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
+ rap/r&b station here is finally playing "Adorn" in regular rotation
- it's the Wiz remix :(
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Friday, 19 October 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
wtf is wrong with the west coast man
― some dude, Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
not as many black folk as points farther east, is what it boils down to basically
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
i guess maybe! what's the station called?
― some dude, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
kube 93
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
rube 93
― racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
You do have to consider tho, that black people here aren't the largest group, or even the second biggest group, but the *FOURTH*, so if you have a station that only appeals to black listeners, it's not going to be successful. This wasn't a problem when rap & r&b were at the center of the pop consciousness, but now unfortunately your average white listener isn't interested in hearing a straight-up r&b song like "Adorn" and it's a victory that they're playing it at all. This is the first Miguel song they've picked up on, whereas Wiz has been a familiar presence on the station for the past couple years. I think they even gave "Say Yeah" some spins when it came out.
And it's like...Kube's top-40 sister station (also owned by Clear Channel) has gotten so whitewashed that literally their most-played song by a black artist right now ("Pound The Alarm") is number twenty-fucking-five on their playlist. So they've pretty much ceded the territory of even straight-up pop by black artists to Kube 93. Shit is depressing.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link
come to the east coast
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 October 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
east coast can suck my ass thru a straw westside 4 lyfe, fool
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
we have HOT97
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
def don't move to the east coast but i would say maybe leave seattle
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of consider this place home and perhaps quality of radio isn't exactly my number-one determinant of where I choose to live.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
I've really never had any interest in living outside the SF-Vancouver coastal region tbh.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
oh
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
bay area sounds alright
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
Bay area's great, so is Seattle. Portland and Vancouver a bit less so. I think the terrain/landscape/whatever is the number-one reason I love this region though. Even having grown up here, the beauty of the water/forest/mountains that are everywhere, even in the cities, never ceases to impress me. There are things I find frustrating about Seattle but they are relatively secondary concerns. Also my family and friends are super-important to me and very close (literally, my whole extended fam lives in my hometown of 100,000) I can't imagine living so far away that I can't see them on a whim.
How did this thread devolve into telling me where to live?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
Also, the fresh air is something I absolutely could not live without. I did actually very briefly consider moving to Chicago once, until I found out it smells like onions.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
blame dayo always
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah in my first month or two of living here i felt like i couldn't breathe
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
lol calm down rev did I hit a sensitive spot
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
ha, possibly
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
was p awful for me last year living half an hour from detroit and even car radios had trouble picking up rap/r&b stations, wth america
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Really? I live 45 mins north of Seattle and can not only pick up most stations from Seattle fine but most stations from Vancouver, which is 2+ hours away.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
it always weirds me out that there are places in lower 48 where you can't hear much rap/R&B on the radio. i lived in friggin delaware for most of the '90s and could pick up a pretty good R&B station.
― some dude, Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it was weird - the detroit stations were maybe underpowered?
xp power 99 is my fav philly station
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, that's possible. kube's signal is so powerful that when someone tried to start a rap/r&b station in vancouver (which was actually really really good, cancon problems aside) they only lasted a couple years because all their potential listeners stuck with kube, whose signal reached all the way up there.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
do canadian rap stations just satisfy cancon requirements by playing the same amount of drake as u.s. stations now?
― awful wedded wein (some dude), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
ha, no idea. this station existed circa 2002-04 and I am thus possibly the most knowledgeable person about early 2000s can-hop in america
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
btw listening to "Adorn" today and trying to think of how rare it is that you hear a big R&B hit that was pretty much entirely performed, written and produced by one person (like, even The-Dream's big hits all had co-producers).
― awful wedded wein (some dude), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
what about Kells tho? (not to disprove you, but another example)
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
no yeah that's a good point, i was trying to think of someone with semi-recent hits who'd be relevenat to that discussion and that's totally who was on the tip of my tongue (although i've never been clear on whether R. is super hands on w/ the beat-making or always has co-producers in the mix)
― awful wedded wein (some dude), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
Marsha Ambrosius self-wrote and -produced a few tracks on her last album but they weren't the hits.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
from what I understand, Kells usually produces completely by himself but will occasionally have coproducers and for a couple projects has farmed out most of the production
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
I guess his only albums where he's done that are Untitled and to a lesser extent R.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
he also tends to use session musicians on some of his more lush stuff, compared to "Adorn" being just a guy programming everything. but still yeah good call w/ kells.
― awful wedded wein (some dude), Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
OHHHH
I read this thread on my phone while drunk on the night bus just now and was really confused cuz it looked like you were talking about kelis
― lex pretend, Saturday, 20 October 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
now the "i ain't talkin kelis" line from "clique" is stuck in my head
― my mansplain songz (some dude), Saturday, 20 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
was p awful for me last year living half an hour from detroit and even car radios had trouble picking up rap/r&b stations, wth america― 乒乓, Saturday, October 20, 2012 4:33 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 乒乓, Saturday, October 20, 2012 4:33 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
u live in MI?
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 21 October 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
DID u live in MI? is the q I meant to ask
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 21 October 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
I've lived within 45 miles of Detroit my whole life and have never had trouble picking up any of the R&B stations.
― Andy K, Sunday, 21 October 2012 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
rev, vancouver > seattle, for real
― heiswagger (rennavate), Sunday, 21 October 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
for chinese food, but that's about it
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 October 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
has no one discussed the full track-by-track commentary on spotify? his divergent, almost rhetorical questions are awesome, 'kaleidoscope dream' and 'candles in the sun' specifically
http://open.spotify.com/album/6VcyVQu3YmkzIWvxHVyCCB
also this album taught me how to spell kaleidoscope correctly and for that, miguel, i thank you
― nose, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
i'd been meaning to listen to that (after generally avoiding every spotify commentary)
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
hay everybody, this album is really really good
i kinda don't like the re-do of candles in the sun, seems like it wouldn't even make sense if you didn't know the ADC version
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
thank you, i was starting to feel like the only person here who sees that version as a downgrade and a bum note for the album
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i feel the same way
the rest of this album is ridiculously good though
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
I feel equally blah about both versions. It would have been the weakest song on the album either way.
― nose, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:10 AM Bookmark
^^^^this
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
i like how simple, loose and reverb-y his guitar playing is, kind of a wildcard element in the sound
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
I thought he played more guitar but "Pussy is Mine" is the only song on which no one else gets credit.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
oh ha, i should have hedged with "the" instead of "his" but i had assumed it was him...
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
He didn't play it on "Arch & Point"?
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
this is insane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaleidoscope_Dream#Content
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
OMG
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
oh god. that's almost as bad as the wiki page for Kendrick's joint.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
the version of the album i downloaded has these really loud rave synths all over and are all tagged "remixed by sh0rty" :-(
― flopson, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol gross
I don't think anyone has mentioned this but I love how much tape hiss there is on "Arch & Point"
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 201
I thought he did :(
Ace job putting his fingers on the right frets though.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
xposts YOLO imagery! wut
― Roz, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
I've been kind of disappointed to see that he doesn't seem to play that song live at all. :(
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
it does seem like it should be a live staple, doesn't it
strangely heartened to see that miggy has warranted some obsessive wiki attention
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
It transitions into the rock song "Arch & Point", which has lascivious lyrics,[30] sexually-charged ballet metaphors,[22] bare power pop elements,[6] plopping percussion, and an acoustic guitar coda.[17]
#plop
― goole, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
sexually charged plopping
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
bare power plot elements
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
dammit
bare power plop elements
See Also:PBR&B
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My least favorite song is "Where's the Fun in Forever?" by far. I actually kind of like teh album version of "Candles in the Sun" better than the ADC version, the album version is appropriately rejigged as an Album Closer that works really well, throbs with this "important statement" vibe that isn't in-your-face or preachy, also I really like the hazier feel, and those drum fills when he says "heros often get SHOT" are amazing.
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
i also think the john lennon interview at the end of the adc is a little obvious
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
strong yolo imagery in beyond good & evil
― ogmor, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
My least favorite song is Pussy Is Mine. It just feels a bit cheap, jokes and all.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ Yeah, I've started to skip it tbh.
Some people have grafittied YOLO on walls.[3][4] It has become a popular Twitter hashtag.[5] Some youth have said that it is their motto,[6][7]
In a news article, the reporter compared the phrase YOLO to Yolo County California.[20]
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
i love "where's the fun in forever?", it feels so low-key and detached without actually losing its anthemic qualities. vocal arrangements are awesome, so's the steam-train rhythm and i the bit where the bass drops out and alicia and the handclaps come in >>>>>>>>
"pussy is mine" works oddly well as a tossed-off trifle at that point in the album, hard to hate. i guess "adorn" really is my least favourite on the album
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
lol shine on you stubborn diamond
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
"Where's the fun..." is great imo, in my top 5 on the album
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
"The Thrill" is the one I skip.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
if i skip any it's "use me" & "don't look back" cuz sometimes i'm not in the mood for bombastic stadium rock
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
half the album is bombastic stadium rock tho.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
"use me" is amazing and not really very bombastic imo
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
i NEVER skip "use me"
if i'm not in the mood for "use me" and "do you..." i'm not in the mood for miguel, or life, or anything - those two are THE songs on the album for me
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
oh i agree that "use me" is one of the very best songs on the album, sometimes i don't feel like hearing it tho
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:13 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark
this... isn't true
"Use Me" is the record's most purely immmersive sound experience imo.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
yeah add "how many drinks?" to those two for me, lex, and i'd agree with you
and "arch and point"
― king louie riel (rennavate), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
his falsetto on "use me" is just...vertiginous
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
love the tangent about "bohemian rhapsody" indirectly inspiring "where's the fun" in the spotify commentary
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
only skippers are "where's the fun" and "candles in the sun", and even the latter i can't muster up much hate for. for shame at skipping "thrill"!
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
when i cherrypick from this album it's usually
don't look back > use me > do you... > where's the fun in forever? > arch & point > ...all > gravity
"kaleidoscope dream" and "the thrill" are the ones that hit the spot when i'm in the mood, but i'm not always in the mood
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
"where's the fun" in forever is def the one song that seemed slight to me first few times around that i now thing is 10/10
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
From "Use Me" through to "Arch & Point" defines the album for me, I often only listen to that sequence on repeat.
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
i wouldn't say "bombastic" but i do think the more desperate/cathartic/blood'n'guts miguel gets on this album, the better
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
Had been thinking "Adorn" might have a good shot at EOY glory but it seems like everyone has their own personal favourite Miguel song.
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
"Kaleidoscope Dream" has an insinuating chorus -- a real earworm. I'll catch myself singing it in the kitchen and shit.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
no "adorn" will do pretty well
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Don't Look Back", "Use Me", "The Thrill", and "Arch & Point" totally are, and even "Where's The Fun In Forever" and "Candles In The Sun" lean in that direction for at least part of their durations
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
"Arch & Point" will always be my favorite: sexually-charged ballet metaphors, bare power pop elements, plopping percussion, and guitar coda.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, it's seemed obv for a while that "Adorn" has a good chance of topping the 77 this year.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
Let's do it right this EOY season.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
if i was gonna try and get an alternative-to-adorn camp going i'd think "do you..." had the best chance
not that i'd vote for any track on this even if i liked "adorn"
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
this... isn't true― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"Don't Look Back", "Use Me", "The Thrill", and "Arch & Point" totally are, and even "Where's The Fun In Forever" and "Candles In The Sun" lean in that direction for at least part of their durations― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If they're bombastic stadium rock, they certainly don't sound like anyone else's bomstadrock.
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
I think for me it's like... Adorn > A&P > Do You > Use Me > The Thrill > Where's The Fun > KD > Don't Look Back > PIM > How Many Drinks > Candles
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
If you're talking about the ILX poll then Adorn has as good a chance as any - he went top 10, possibly top 5, last year and his profile is higher now. Also 2012 has been kinda low on big unifying singles, Call Me Maybe notwithstanding.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
Bombastardtock
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
sounds like a late nineties Chem Bros track.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Now I know why Kanyetothe made a thread about Lex
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I dunno, it's all pretty Purple Rain as mentioned upthread (which is good! usually when people "sound like Prince" that's not the Prince they rip off), but not slavishly
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not really sure the bass bumps in Adorn really fit the song and sound totally out of place in the context of the rest of the album but the songwriting and the performance and everything else about the track are straight 10/10 so it barely matters.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
adorn definitely could win ilx this year. adorn, call me maybe, inspector norse and... idk what else, seems like a pretty weak year
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
Prince might be bombastic and stadium and rock but I wouldn't call him "bombastic stadium rock". The distinction makes sense in my head at least.
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I think it'll come down to Adorn vs CMM. Gangnam Style will take a lot of punters' money but won't get the votes. I'm probably missing something obvious though.
― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
it wouldn't be the same at all with out that big synth bass xxp
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah "Sure Thing" was #6 on our poll last year (and only #68 on P&J, the fuckers)
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
(Looooooooooooooooove Sooooooooooooooooooosa)
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
which dawn single is going to get ilx traction? "pretty wicked things" i presume
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
obv in a just world "pretty wicked things" would have had the real-world impact that "adorn" did but oh well
If I vote for a Dawn track it will be "Black Lipstick"
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really rate "Pretty Wicked Things"
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
;_;
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
nicki is going to suffer from vote-splitting too :(
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
"Automatic," "Black Lipstick," or "Scripture" for me.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, it seems like it's trying to do too much with too little xxp
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
it does a huge amount with a huge amount
i won't vote for any armor on song because i'll vote for armor on, so...
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
They do and they don't, I mean the vocals and most of the songwriting are't but the guitar tones and the general ambience feel like pure 00s stadium rock, hence me mentioning Coldplay upthread. I mean that's fine, the guitar sounds and general ambience are usually the best thing about those records, it's just everything else that blows so well done Miguel for finding an acceptable context for them.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer "86" as far as songs from the upcoming album go
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what's with the radicalization on this issue? i generally think the shipley doctrine is a good one but it doesn't apply iirc to huge singles (like adorn as you mentioned before, not really the case with dawn)
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
don't really get the purple rain comparisons either
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
Not trying to troll, b/c I know this is sacred around here, but has Armor On lost some of its luster for anyone else? (uh, asking for a friend...)
― Evan R, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
It's a question of approach not actual sound, I mean I can't imagine Prince recording anything like this album. But Miguel's found a way of making modern stadium rock work with modern R&B that's similar to what Purple Rain managed for the 80s.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
Not trying to troll, b/c I know this is sacred around here, but has Armor On lost some of its luster for anyone else?
NO
AOTY unhesitatingly and still ridiculously far ahead of everything else
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
MDC otm
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
is dawn gonna place in the singles? "faith" would be my one vote
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:36 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if there's one thing nicki doesn't suffer from in 2012 it's too many good songs
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
It's faded for me -- the space in the arrangements which sounded novel in June now sounds like a way to hide a couple unfinished songs -- but no so's it would leave my top twenty.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't listened to it in a long time... i should revisit
i'll def have "stupid hoe" pretty high
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:43 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it's cool but at this point i'm more interested in seeing what the new one does
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
nicki's best moments in 2012 hit the sweet spot of being great public pop AND great personal favourites that i ended up playing on loop - i could legit vote for "stupid hoe", "starships" (YES) and "the boys" if it wasn't for my one-track-per-artist rule
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
Gun Shot >>> everything else.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
Not to make this a nicki thread but I remain upset that gunshot never became a huge summer single.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
posted a photo on instagram tonight of him in the studio with beyonce
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
Huh, I assumed Dawn Richard was a British thing since the only place I've ever come across her name is the Singles Jukebox.
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
But it's been established that I don't know shit, so.
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:03 (eleven years ago) link
No, no, no. She's an American r&b singer who was in Diddy Dirty Money and Danity Kane. Sounds like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBnNOk1_Vs
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:36 (eleven years ago) link
Oh I've heard her (b/c of the Jukebox), just didn't know her provenance.
― Sandy Denny Real Estate (jaymc), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
Kaleidoscope Dream is prob going to be in my Top 3 at this point, maybe even be my number one - it's got like 5 of my favourite songs this year.
just couldn't get into the Dawn Richard record at all though. :/
― Roz, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 06:28 (eleven years ago) link
where's this beyonce image?
― monotony, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 08:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/column/the-juice/beyonce-hits-the-studio-with-miguel-photo-1007994432.story
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link
i must look like such a psycho singing and clapping along to this album on headphones. hope my cats don't judge me.
― push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
Yell WHERE'S THE FUN IN FOREVER at it.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
Beyonce is so sweet when she almost looks human.
― you killed my cousin back in '94 - FUCK YO TRUCE! (longneck), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqJQx6L7D7I
it's kind of impossible to overstate how much this sounds like a year of the gentleman deep cut. i swear ne-yo is actually singing this
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 November 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
speaking of miggy and shaffer, anyone heard this before?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fIoz37nsac
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 November 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i heard and was really into the ne-yo version of that (production plumped up by tricky stewart supposedly) that leaked around the time of year of the gentleman - since that video predates it though i guess it was originally written for miguel and he took it back to play with and discard again. makes sense as it sounds very much like first album ne-yo
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 November 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMl02nqA0hg
miguel has supposedly disowned this but it's not bad for what it is imo
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
now he's big he should get all his former west coast undie r&b homies like sa ra and j davey together and form a crew, crews are popular i hear
they could call themselves... black hippy
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 November 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
he used to run with those dudes?
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
fellow outcasts and weirdos
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 November 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://thewellversed.com/2011/01/24/miguel-ahead-of-the-curve/
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Miguel+Jontel+Pimentel?anv=Jontel#t=Credits_All&q=&p=1
― r|t|c, Friday, 2 November 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
still runs with those dudes. brook d'leau from j*davey is in his band.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 2 November 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
"Adorn" in the top 20!
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 2 November 2012 07:32 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qGigIMM1Vw
― Andy K, Friday, 2 November 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/e8vg9r/acts/a9gwrz#p0117g85
lol/envy at his t-shirt
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 16 November 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link
he designed it! you can buy it (for $60) https://deerdana.3dcartstores.com/SADE-x-MIGUEL_p_176.html
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
smoke weed, wear sade
― some dude, Friday, 16 November 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
important poll:
MIGUEL - all i want is you - POLL
― chief beef (k3vin k.), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
Was about to order the John Ford one til I saw the price.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 16 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.thefader.com/2012/11/16/miguel-second-wind/
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Saturday, 17 November 2012 10:40 (eleven years ago) link
Miguel Jontel Pimentel was born 25 miles south of here, in the fishing port of San Pedro.
drove up from pedro just like d. boon! <3 <3 <3
― some dude, Saturday, 17 November 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
Last night I dreamt of San Pedro
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 November 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link
Kaleidoscope Dreams Are Free, Motherfucker!
― Andy K, Saturday, 17 November 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/photos/stylus/2600259-2-miguel-day-in-the-life-at-vh1-617-409.jpg
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
HEY there miguel
http://instagram.com/p/StpD_qC14r/
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Sunday, 2 December 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
that kind of ruins my conception of him as this adorable twink. never been into really muscular guys.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Sunday, 2 December 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
he was in chicago last night but i was at kreayshawn =[
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
how is it even possible to be that wrong
― these markers love soda (some dude), Sunday, 2 December 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
ask the person who paid me to go see kreayshawn
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 December 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
tbf i actually didn't even realize that show was happening until i saw miguel post a photo of the bean on instagram and forgot to pitch it
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 December 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
I can't even
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
I'm hit with that body and sarge going to a Kreayshawn show. I need to lie down.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
hmm, gotta concur with rev here
bomb hip dips tho
― r|t|c, Monday, 3 December 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
Do you like roooooooidsme too
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
am i going to regret removing "don't look back" and "pussy is mine" from my ipod?
― flopson, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
"Don't look back" gets stuck in my head a lot. This thread's critique of that song is unjustly harsh IMO. I think it's cool.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
Don't Look Back felt like a weak link at first but it's grown on me. Do You still troubles me a bit, though.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
i really like the verses and the bridge but, fuck, that chorus is unforgiveable
― flopson, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
Every song now gets stuck in my head!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
i could probably live without "pussy is mine" (though it's fine) but "dont look back"is pretty essential
― k3vin k., Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
"do you" is awesome
― flopson, Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
Do You sounds like something on the soundtrack for 50 First Dates
― send Lawyers (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Like I can totally see 311 covering it or something
― send Lawyers (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
O_o
― 乒乓, Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
"Don't Look Back" is great y'all are trippin. I especially can't imagine removing the "Time of the Season" cover
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
xxpost
Ok it may be my least fave song on the album, but it hardly deserves THAT.
Also, the Time of the Season bit is what makes Don't Look Back, for me.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not saying its not better than every 311 song ever
― send Lawyers (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 8 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
BUSTED
― flopson, Saturday, 8 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
Every song now gets stuck in my head!Okay, well for me I typically only get good songs stuck in my head.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 8 December 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
i'm prob one of the most outspoken anti-"Don't Look Back" people but i've made peace with it in that 'man i love this fucking album even the parts i don't love' way, has some nice bits.
"Do You" is amazing and if you can't enjoy saccharine reggae without thinking of the worst possible examples thereof i feel sorry for you son
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 04:47 (eleven years ago) link
really only "Candles in the Sun" doesn't occupy my brain at all
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 December 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
fair burn
― send Lawyers (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 9 December 2012 06:16 (eleven years ago) link
i'm about to quit ilx off this "do you" hate, what isn the world
crying acid rain over here
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 December 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
do you like drugs?have you ever felt alone?do you still believe in love?
^^such key questions
it is the most romantic song of the year for me
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
'don't look back' is charmingly ponderous but it's true that I can only stand it about 1/3 of the time
― 乒乓, Sunday, 9 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
The moment when that slap bass enters the song = best of the year.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
on "Do You"? yes, totally
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link
Ok yeah the bass is awesome
― send Lawyers (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 9 December 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
the contrast between the glistening blissed out vibe of the song and the drugs'n'bass is what makes it all work
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
yall love it cos it sounds like steely dan, come clean already
― r|t|c, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
:|
― 乒乓, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
i really should finally listen to steely dan
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
!!
― 乒乓, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
if something sounded like steely dan i'd readily admit that that's why i like it!
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
god now i really would give anything to hear The Dukes Of September run through "Do You" now though
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
is that a demurral then
i don't and i won't but if i were to delete one thing off this lp it'd be 'candles in the wind', p much hate that shit in any version
― r|t|c, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
the keyboards and drums on the 'live' version sound so gross and depressing
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
removing that would also unencumber 'pussy is mine' from deep cut to light outro closer
ah fuckit ima do it
― r|t|c, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
haha yes
― k3vin k., Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
i would guess will hate the dan but can't be sure.
― k3vin k., Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno, lex likes tom waits and leonard cohen, could be a good fit
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
which era should we start him out with?
― 乒乓, Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
prob gaucho
i love this steely dan cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzD-h_9T41Q
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
It can't have too many guitars or "rock" so scratch the first two.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
No I'm never gonna do it without The Lex on Oh no
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:30 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
one of the few times i get mad at the sonic limitations of my car stereo
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
this album sounds a lot better on speakers than on headphones imo, and like to a weird extent
― flopson, Sunday, 9 December 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's true
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 December 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
I dont know how I forgot about the slap bass; I do love that. Was way rong and take it all back.
― send Lawyers (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 9 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
DON'TLOOOOOOKBAAAACK
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 December 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
― flopson, Sunday, December 9, 2012 1:06 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes this sounds incredible on good speakers so many things i missed listening through my headphones until i put this on on my computer, and these speakers aren't even THAT good
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 10 December 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
imo it's all about the interaction between the slap bass and those heavy drums. it's the rhythms of late-90s r&b but with a completely different sonic palette.
as far as "Pussy Is Mine", this is all that really needs to be said about its greatness:
https://twitter.com/venusxGG/status/265880111960711169
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, 10 December 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
reminds me of a hilarious Wendy & Lisa interview
Did you first think Prince was gay? Lisa: He was little and kinda prissy and everything. But he's so not gay.Wendy: He's a girl, for sure, but he's not gay. He looked at me like a gay woman would look at another woman.Lisa: Totally. He's like a fancy lesbian.
― some dude, Monday, 10 December 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
haha, I was going to say "like Prince!"
I'm totally willing to settle for the "Miguel is a fancy lesbian" explanation of God, the Universe, and Everything.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, 10 December 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
Has this been posted?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSF_syQ6VM8
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
he has short stubby legs, just like me. protip miguel: get your pants hemmed longer
― 乒乓, Monday, 10 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
his guitarist
― max, Monday, 10 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
the WORST guitar face
in every performance/video, always, the worst
yeah he really is mr. guitar face that guy
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
just listened to this record finally last night, its really good!
― ciderpress, Monday, 10 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
Miguel is definitely a fancier lesbian than Ellen
love how "Adorn" live performances have progressively gotten more swagged out over the last few months
― some dude, Monday, 10 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Nice to know that hits matter.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
also annoying that miguel always looks fly and his musicians are like -- the guitarist looks like hes in a christian rock band. and the fucking dj is wearing an amerlia earhart hat?
― max, Monday, 10 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
enforce a dress code, miguel
sup ellen!
― before and after broscience (goole), Monday, 10 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
Noted heterosexual Amelia Earhart.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
yahhhh, those guitar faces have been a thorn in my side all year
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
how can you guys even pay attention to that stuff
― some dude, Monday, 10 December 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
now i'm scared to see shipley's drummer face
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 December 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
ha i just mean the camera's on miguel 90% of the time and he's amazing, i wouldn't have even noticed the band members if y'all weren't talking about them
― some dude, Monday, 10 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
this fucking performance! dude's confidence has gone through the roof
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
My Mans Miggy!
some of the other live clips have been way worse in showcasing the awful guitar face. that show in new york that was livestreamed was like the full introduction to his guitarist's visual awfulness.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
Nah Mig gets the Bryan Ferry Rule: at all times hire men dorkier and uglier than you
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
yeah basically i noticed how bad it was during the letterman perf i think and now i cant stop seeing it in all the videos. some of them try to hide it but the guy cant not do the guitar face
― max, Monday, 10 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, December 10, 2012 9:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
his keyboardist and drummer seem to get away with being fairly nondescript
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, December 10, 2012 12:12 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i know!!!!!!!!! i bet this tour is making trey songz nervous as hell right now
― some dude, Monday, 10 December 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://youtu.be/e6NGZBcgw7s
fair play to lil miggy but i think some of u need reminding what swag looks like
― r|t|c, Monday, 10 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
no fair: Maxwell is older
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
hate to break it to you but swag does not come with age
― r|t|c, Monday, 10 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
but kinetics is a part of youth. Maxwell would look silly at his age doing Mig's moves.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/TKfH0GC15V/
― 乒乓, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
listen i love Maxwell but for a reasonable comparison you'd need a performance of "Pretty Wings" where he struts into the MILF stands at a daytime talk show like a rooster in the hen house, not the same kind of swag
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Appearing in DC tonight with Trey and Elle Varner. Since I saw him headlining at the Howard Theatre, gonna skip tonight (although the spectacle could be fun). Baltimore gig coming shortly.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
ok wow @ "The Thrill", suuuuch a jam
finalmente got this album, tempted to just put "The Thrill" on repeat already
― Euler, Friday, 14 December 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that one has really grown into a major favorite over time
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Friday, 14 December 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
not as swagged out as on ellen but worth watching for the breakdown at the end http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/864822/adorn-live.jhtml#artist=3791904
― The Reverend, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
lotta goofy guitarist faces in that one too, but fuck it i like those little guitar licks he adds to the song
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I was finding myself wishing for those little guitar licks listening to adorn earlier today
― 乒乓, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
it'd be cool if his label puts a well recorded live EP on iTunes or something
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
Struttin' in the MILF Stands: Miguel Live on Ellen
― before and after broscience (goole), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
tweeted yesterday that he was doing an acoustic performance at npr. excited to hear that.
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
Ann Powers at NPR made his album her top pick in her NPR top 10 for the year
― curmudgeon, Friday, 14 December 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.thefader.com/2012/12/20/the-fader-presents-listmania-2012/
Top 5 Freak-outs by Miguel’s Guitarist5. Rhapsody 4. David Letterman3. An office building2. Ellen1. Wendy Williams
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
Man, lol @ Wendy Williams dressing down Miguel during his performance.
― small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
hahahah yeah, 2:07-2:10, when she bites her lower lip at the end
― 乒乓, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
haha wow
― k3vin k., Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
damn miguel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ldj9UGCBH8
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
his obvious enthusiasm for that song is so infectious
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
it's gotten to the point where when I listen to the studio version I mentally fill in the guitar licks
― 乒乓, Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
I think I've come to prefer live "Adorn" to studio "Adorn" which was already like my favorite song of the past five years or so.
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
"prefer" is a strong word but if i haven't been in the car to hear it on the radio for a few hours and i get the urge to hear it, i usually switch up and put on a live version of even that Diddy remix
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
really like miguel but really dislike him live
― god hates frogbs (cozen), Friday, 21 December 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
w/e
Why?
― small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 21 December 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
what's the difference between the live version and the studio version of adorn? the guitars?
― k3vin k., Friday, 21 December 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
also live drums, sometimes extended outro, swag
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Friday, 21 December 2012 08:06 (eleven years ago) link
on NPR!
http://www.npr.org/event/music/167559983/miguel-tiny-desk-concert
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
heard radio v of "Do You" yesterday, kinda disappointed at chorus of "do you like love, do you like love"
― Euler, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the stations that use the single edit are such a bummer
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
ha, it hadn't occurred to me that "jamey, johnny, and jack know" referred to jameson, walker, and daniels
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
damn slow burner
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
heard "How Many Drinks" on the radio today, could've a random DJ whim but i am curious if that's an indication of the next single -- it always leaped out to me as having the most obvious radio potential on the album, and "The Thrill" has always been implied as the 3rd single (mentioned on the CD sticker, already an official video out, etc.) but it seemed like Miguel just always really loved that song and "Do You," and the latter has been slow to take off. by the time "Adorn" finally drops out of the #1 spot "Do You" may have already dropped off the chart and they'll just move on to the next single.
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, it seems like they really jumped the gun on "Do You"
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
Hoping the album's singles life extends to the warm-weather months. "Do You" and "How Many Drinks" would both be such nice summer singles
― Evan R, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
otm on single potential of "The Thrill" (for some reason the last song on the record to sink its claws into me).
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
was thinking a few days ago that "how many drinks" with miguel's rap verses swapped out for an actual rapper seemed like an obvious fourth or fifth single choice
― dead cera (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
rap verses
― dead cera (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
eh hindsight is 20/20, there was no way of predicting just how much longevity "Adorn" would have (last week it passed Mary J's "Be Without You" as the longest-lasting #1 on R&B radio in decades) xpost
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
"Drinks" is fine w/ Mig's little rap in there, no need for an MC imo
i don't mind it and i'm sure whichever rapper they'd choose would be super boring but it just seemed like an obvious move to give the album one last kick in the ass... but i was thinking, like, 6-8 months down the line. so i'm probably wrong.
― dead cera (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
it'd be waste if one of the rockier tracks wasn't a single, those are the ones that really leap out as something special imo
disappointed that "do you..." flopped. disappointed in the public for being so wrong, that is
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
"how many drinks" is fine but also kinda ignorable imo
don't think our beloved "Arch n Point" has a chance on R&B radio.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
i meant "don't look back" or "use me"
but honestly if radio can't get with "do you..." then i can't get with radio
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
i don't wanna jump the gun on calling "Do You" a flop -- i'm still pretty certain that whenever "Adorn" finally drops out of heavy rotation radio programmers will just plug in whatever Miguel song the label is pushing, i'm just wondering if that will definitely be it.
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
i hear "Do You" pretty regularly, it just hasn't hit that point where i know i'm gonna hear it when i get in the car
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
"how many drinks" is so underrated as a potential single imo
also "adorn" is just FINALLY getting spin in edmonton wtffff
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah "How Many" is kind of dead in the middle if i was ranking the album, not amazing but pretty solid, sounded good on the radio when i heard it today.
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
"how many drinks" is also the only one which sounds kinda...skeevy in isolation
like on the album it's offset by the persona miguel builds up elsewhere but i kind of don't want him represented on radio by a song about getting girls drunk enough to go home with him
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:02 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think it does fwiw
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:39 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
because "two or three" is going to get most girls drunk? it's not like miggy is hoping "six or seven"
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
that's not really the point is it
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno i feel it's an important distinction, the drinks are also besides the point, it's more a Let's Be Adults And Just Embrace Our Carnal Urges Because We're Consenting Adults song rather than specifically about getting a girl drunk enough to take home...
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
this is why i said "in isolation" - in album context it's a lot easier to take the "let's quit playing these stupid gender role games and cut thru the bullshit" interpretation but by itself that's not really made explicit enough (only barely, really)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
i'll accept that
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
anyway the point is i don't want it as the single, i want a) "do you..." to first smash even harder than "adorn" because it's a million times better, b) "use me" or "don't look back" as the next single c) actually i think "where's the fun in forever?" could work!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
so many good songs on the album wouldn't necessarily work on urban radio, but i'd be happy with his label running with the "alt R&B" thing and working one of those more guitar-driven songs on triple A radio
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
lex i think any song whose repeated, shining, carefree, ebullient moment is "do you like drugs" is going to have a tough time on radio stations whose audience is largely teenagers..! i.e. R1, and i don't see 2 or 6 going for it, though in an ideal world 6 would be an ideal home for it
i like that song a lot, the music's got a kind of huey lewis vibe sometimes (in a good way) (come to think of it, that's another guy who compared the object of his attraction to controlled substances!)
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
choice fm should become the station that plays stuff like that, and all the explicit versions of everything - there's no legal watershed in uk radio iirc
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
migarc pimentloi
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
haha huey lewis
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
As pleasant as they are, "How Many Drinks" and "Where's the Fun in Forever" are, if not quite the weakest songs on the album, at least the most "ordinary." Like if you'd played them for me 12 months ago and said they tracks from the next Miguel album I'd have been like "oh, of course" rather than "this is amazing" or even just "huh, this is an interesting direction." Being the only two tracks that were completely unfamiliar when I heard the album in full, they kinda of skewed my initial reaction to it for the worse. Remember when I stupidly poopooed Kaleidoscope Dream off one listen?
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
Not that I disliked the album initially, but I was kind of disappointed in the short term.
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
the fact that a lot of the songs don't reveal their charms immediately has been one of the album's biggest strengths for me, that it didn't sound its absolute best back in October
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
"Candles in the Sun" still the only meh song but an improvement on its earlier incarnation.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
'how many drinks' def sounds like a natural fit for the radio, I don't expect him to continue keeping on blowing the lid off of the radio
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
somehow packaging all of these songs together enhanced them all greatly in a way i can't exactly explain - it's partly the sequencing but only partly. it's a bit like the electrik red situation - at least 4-5 of the songs on their album were floating around pre-release and everyone was just like "oh these are kinda decent", not "THIS WILL BE THE BEST THING EVER", but then suddenly hearing the album qua album made everything slot into place
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
tbh I came into this album fully expecting it to be the best thing ever
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
it almost is
― dead cera (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
I was already placing the collective Art Dealer Chic ep's as my #1 album if this album had been just okay.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
i do not get this record
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
do you like drugs?
― Ya Bish Bosch (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
"how many drinks?" has a slight feminist bent to it that is dope but I doubt many ppl would pick up on it on the radio
― dead cera (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
drugs are okay i guess
to me this record feels more 'nice guys of okcupid' than it does 'feminist' but i don't know
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
mainly i think i just hate the mix though
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
lol what
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
we do not get your posts
― tundra, Thursday, 3 January 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
― gullible lochinski (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 6 January 2013 06:59 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't listened to this yet but
http://soundcloud.com/rawnenbambi/adornthesextape
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
forgot to post that a few days ago I was in a supermarket as it was closing, adorn came on and one of the guys behind the deli kept on going WHAAAP! WHAAAP! it was p awesome
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
Adorn on Jay Leno last nighthttp://www.spin.com/articles/miguel-adorn-jay-leno-tonight-show-videoHis guitarist <3
― trad goon (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
dope
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 January 2013 06:03 (eleven years ago) link
haha awesome WHAAAP! story
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 06:04 (eleven years ago) link
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
did anybody dl this before the limit blew out
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
nm I didnt dig it that much
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
Got my tickets to see him this morning. Excited.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
wait, it's some guy who is not miguel singing, fuck this
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
on the soundcloud thing, i mean
after missing him the past two times he's come to london i'm finally going to see him on saturday with the bf
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
How was the London show? I didn't realise he was playing Glasgow as well tonight, fingers crossed it isn't sold out
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 13 January 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
it was pretty great, sound could've been better though - vocals not loud enough! the "quickie"/"arch & point" encore was amazing.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 13 January 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
He did Adorn like three different times, and it was nice to hear a crowd sing it all together, but not as nice as hearing his actual voice. It was very guitar-driven, even more than I was expecting based on an album full of guitars, but his band were pretty tight and fun. I did have to laugh though when, after singing about sex and drugs and taking his top off, he put his clothes back on and gave a speech about the horrors of genocide as an introduction to Candles In The Sun. Ultimate buzzkill.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/dj-dyn-o-might/adorn-go-go-remix
Go-Go remix of "Adorn"
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
that is an excellent thing
― Five days left to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i heard it on the radio the other night and it made me so happy
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
super-dope remix, that
"adorn" live - i think i FINALLY get it
still think calling it the best song is nuts, but i think i might love it properly at last
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
btw ship I tihnk we made the same lance joke w/i 10 min of each other =O
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
haw
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
lol Miguel tweeted with Manti Te'o's imaginary girlfriend
https://twitter.com/MiguelUnlimited/status/135987621229887488
― some dude, Thursday, 17 January 2013 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
"Do You..." is a wonderful song, but it sounds really out of place and unwelcome on rap radio
― Evan R, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
Its rap and r'n'b radio, and it sounds fine
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds mildly out of place and very welcome imo
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
i started listening to this because of the year end songs poll
i can't stress how much i did not expect to hear a zombies cover on this album
really good, he's a great singer
― bert yansh (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
*sigh* I guess I just have to root for Kaleidoscope Dream to win the albums poll now
― The Reverend, Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
let's hope
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
i think i gave frank my no 1... i can't remember
yeah can't believe adorn placed lower in ilm than in p&j.
― danzig, Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
i suspect miguel will win the albums
― lex pretend, Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
haha no way unfortunately
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
who are the main contenders? ocean, yeah, but that's mostly the same voting bloc and miguel seems way more popular on ilm.
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 January 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
there will be vote splitting between the album and the collected EPs
― 乒乓, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
nah frank ocean will beat miguel in albums, it's a lock
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
i kinda don't think Art Dealer Chic will siphon more than a couple votes away from KD? i dunno, seems like a small stubborn minority opinion.
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
i had miguel top 5 in albums and no frank fwiw - i think its a possibility
― tity boi historian (ciderpress), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
so did i but it seems like such an astronomical long shot, would be willing to be on this.
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
[spoilers] I voted for ADC and not kaleidoscope because 1. 2:19 adorn 2. ...ALL 3. you can kill me if 'kaleidoscope' misses the #1 by 49 points or less
― 乒乓, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
"...all" is on kaleidoscope dream. deluxe edition bonus track or something. so is "gravity"
― lex pretend, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I know but it feels out of place after 'candles in the sun'
― 乒乓, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
I'm being petty mad at miggy for not sequencing it right.
and if you rep for the deluxe edition that means you're also gonna have to rep for the adorn remix w/ wiz khalifa
imo "All" is a much better ending to the album than nu-"Candles". in my mind the album has 13 tracks.
i have the Target edition of the CD, which has "Gravity" and "All" but not the Wiz remix :)
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
Channel Orange crossed over much more than Kaleidoscope Dream, I'd think. I can imagine a lot of people who haven't heard KD (or any other r'n'b this year) putting CO in the lower half of their ballots.
― Frederik B, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
exactly
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
imo "All" is a much better ending to the album than nu-"Candles".
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
who are the main contenders? ocean, yeah, but that's mostly the same voting bloc and miguel seems way more popular on ilm
Kendrick might beat both of them.
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
i could see Kendrick beating Frank Ocean. but def not Miguel.
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
can't wait for the surprise grizzly bear win
― tity boi historian (ciderpress), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm part of the silent majority of Kellie Pickler supporters.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
I forgot to vote in ilm poll
― curmudgeon, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
miguel talks the 90s:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01480b8
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 January 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
Frank has a 0% chance of beating Miguel in albums
Kendrick is Miguel's main competition, Dawn is a dark horse contender. Other albums towards the top include Taylor, Swans, and Jessie
― O'Floyd rules! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
ha overestimating swans is really your thing huh
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
Haha maybe
― O'Floyd rules! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
I've just held the assumption that Miguel is more popular around these parts than Frank (who seems a lot more divisive here and has just never gotten quite a few people on board) for a while
― The Reverend, Friday, 25 January 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
not saying Miguel will necessarily beat Frank but it feels like there's a lot more enthusiasm for KD on ILM than CO. I could see it going either way.
― The Reverend, Friday, 25 January 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of 'visible enthusiasm' on ILM has more to do with who chooses to post at length about what than what they're listening to. there are plenty of indie bands that don't attract active threads during the year and then dominate ILM's year-end threads.
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
Idk mane songs @ 40, 17, & 3 imply a heavier voter bias than 23 & 20 do
― O'Floyd rules! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
ok so who's taking my $5 bet on this.
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Friday, January 25, 2013 11:20 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wow you're an asshole
(...says the guy who didn't vote)
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 January 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
i feel pretty confident that kendrick will beat both by a lot but frank and miggy will probably be close. gut feeling tells me frank beats him out though. way more mainstream exposure
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 January 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
i can't see that miggy clip on my phone, what traxx did he choose?
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 January 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
eh the feature was only a cute bit of fluff but
'motownphilly', 'are you that somebody', 'tell me'
― r|t|c, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
tell meeeeeeeeeeeee!
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
groove theory not dru hill :)
― r|t|c, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Whens the last time three songs from an album placed in the tracks poll and how did it do on the albums poll?
― O'Floyd rules! (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 26 January 2013 05:52 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, it's not that unusual. Remember that not just Miguel, but Jessie Ware and Nicki Minaj placed three tracks each in this year's poll. Last year Beyonce did and the year before that TayTay had three and Kanye had four.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2013 07:42 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Friday, January 25, 2013 6:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
:( i suppose that is a little more in miguel's style
― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
Groove Theory >>> tho
― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
i can't agree with you, if only because i recently had to run 10 laps around camden yards for saying 112 was better than dru hill
― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
― let's go do some crimes (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
Ha I prefer 112 too
― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
otm. not even close imo
― queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 26 January 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01480b8bummer, i wanna hear thisGroove Theory is a great choice
― billstevejim, Saturday, 26 January 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, catalog is just stronger. DH's best songs are due for reappraisal though. xp
― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
Is it weird that I listen to Dru Hill on a regular basis?
― billstevejim, Saturday, 26 January 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
no that's pretty cool
― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
jagged edge v. dru hill
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 26 January 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
a fairer fight, i can't all it, but i give the edge to DH
― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
call it
wow, "adorn" is the first song in history to be on top of the r&b/hip-hop airplay chart for 20 straight weeks
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/1531803/miguel-adorns-no-1-on-rbhip-hop-airplay-for-20th-week-weekly
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 January 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
well i guess that isn't necessarily straight weeks (?). but first to hit 20 in any event.
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 January 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
yeah they were consecutive, i'm pretty sure
― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
damn!
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 26 January 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Sweet
― queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 27 January 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
this is the only Dru Hill joint I ever really fucked with that much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-oRmPNg1Cs
― The Reverend, Sunday, 27 January 2013 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, I always found Sisqo vaguely offputting
― The Reverend, Sunday, 27 January 2013 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh he's pretty ridiculous
― some dude, Sunday, 27 January 2013 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
'use me' on speakers slays - the overtracked vocals he does at 3:05 really leap out and fill the room
― 乒乓, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
It's always weird to me to consider many people don't usually listen to music on speakers
― The Reverend, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
I live in a small-ass apartment with lots of roomies : |
― 乒乓, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
I listen to music quietly on my speakers all the time
― The Reverend, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
kind of defeats the purpose?
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:13 (eleven years ago) link
mot really, since I generally can't stand wearing headphones
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
crying
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XOb7d4Y3_3w#
― prolego, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XOb7d4Y3_3w
why does shit never embed ugh
someone needs to make gifs of every frame of that
― prolego, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
think u need to get it into the form watch?v=XOb7d4Y3_3w ie cut out the feature=player_embedded part... i spent a day on html playground trying to figure it out recently... so frustrating
― flopson, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOb7d4Y3_3w
― prolego, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
yay thanks!
i like how he spends all that time wrapping up
― prolego, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
WTF THAT VIDEO
― skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
damn
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
O_O
somebody needs to do a youtube cut of wendy williams licking her lips and that vid
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
lol otm
― skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
hell i think i'm turned on
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
oh my god what did i just watch
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
holy
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
Arch your back. Point your toes.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
should I go to the gym or masturbate?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
why not both? It's the equivalent of after dinner port.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
his tongue!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 08:21 (eleven years ago) link
Trying to think of a more satisfying music success story from the last five years or so than Miguel, and I really can't
― Evan R, Monday, 11 February 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
I've read a couple variations of the "Miguel is great and all, but he doesn't have a narrative" argument in the wake of his Grammy spotlight, but I don't really think that's true. "Auteur works his way through the studio system, his vision intact" is a pretty inspiring narrative in its own right these days
― Evan R, Monday, 11 February 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
if someone's narrative "is good at making music, finds success in making music, also is sexy," then that's not really a narrative, it's just image and/or simple facts.
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Monday, 11 February 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
like contrasted to the human interest element of the obvious comparison point of Frank Ocean, it's pretty different
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Monday, 11 February 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I get that. But it's pretty rare these days for a singer with few ties to any other established stars or elite circles to find success on the scale Miguel has, and I think that's something worth celebrating. Nobody's gonna make a movie about it, but it's a nice reminder that the industry works sometimes
― Evan R, Monday, 11 February 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
i'm pretty glad i've managed to avoid whoever is saying "Miguel is great and all, but he doesn't have a narrative" up until now, thank you very much
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Monday, 11 February 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
I like Miguel and all but you can't exactly say he has few ties to established stars or elite circles, dude has been on two separate majors and lots of features with major artists.
― katherine, Monday, 11 February 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno. He obviously collaborates with big names here and there, but he feels like an independent contractor. He doesn't have a central allegiance the way a lot of his contemporaries do
― Evan R, Monday, 11 February 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
it's fair to say he has relied on guest rappers and stuff like that less than most R&B artists in his lane or at his career level, and that most of the big co-signs he's gotten have come AFTER he proved himself with big solo hits. but it's all relative, in some ways he's very industry, in some ways he's kind of off the beaten path. xp
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Monday, 11 February 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
xp So many of his contemporaries are beholden to the clique that spawned them or the bigger star that sired them. That's not the case with Miguel.
― Evan R, Monday, 11 February 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
he's beholden to ILM.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
I've read a couple variations of the "Miguel is great and all, but he doesn't have a narrative" argument
what is this argument? what are the people making it actually trying to say? is it a complaint? o_0
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it's a compliment; the gist is that Miguel doesn't have that same narrative advantages Frank Ocean had. Which, yeah, that's true; there's no inspiring, groundbreaking story there to fuel the buzz, so the music has to stand on its own
― Evan R, Monday, 11 February 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the closest thing he has to an ~angle~ is vaguely aligning himself with ~indie r&b~ (and the conscious way he does this is pretty lol, it's like he knows it's just savvy marketing/branding - esp considering how little he sounds like anyone else under that umbrella)
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
in the UK, he's had coverage without even any heavy PRing
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
I loooooove this album so much. Hadn't heard any Miguel til EOY tracks poll, but holy shit
so THAT's why this thread was at the top of SNA for so long (facepalm @ me)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 March 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
listen to his first album now!
― k3vin k., Saturday, 9 March 2013 04:06 (eleven years ago) link
you are NOT the boss of me k3vin
but omg yes you know it :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 March 2013 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
wish i could hear "teach me" for the first time again
― k3vin k., Saturday, 9 March 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
I was listening to KD in the car tonight and I almost had to pull over for Arch & Point. Was having a ~moment~
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 March 2013 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
VG, considering you are one of the now seven ppl who post in the Meshell Ndegeocello thread, it is only right and natural that you are in love w this album
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 9 March 2013 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
<3 so many threads coming together with this dude
and the fuckin ZOMBIES on top of everything
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 March 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
I took that 'ZOMBIES' literally, like there was some sort of horror movie reference that I had missed
p appropriate though considering Dont Look Back does kind of have a sort of that suspense to it, like it could be used in some teenybopper zomgbie movie trailer, or like in a promo for Walking Dead or something
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 9 March 2013 05:33 (eleven years ago) link
lol wow that is a poorly constructed sentence, deliberate typo notwithstanding
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 9 March 2013 05:34 (eleven years ago) link
lol Miguel + actual zombies, whiney would shit
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 March 2013 05:35 (eleven years ago) link
love how random snippets of Kaleidoscope songs will pop into my head each day - lots of cool little earworms in all these tracks.
oh and K3v otm -- I listened to the first album today, so good
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 March 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
:)
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 March 2013 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
he did a "Candles In The Sun" video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTrnI-XKEH0
i was right upthread about "How Many Drinks" being the next single without "Do You" ever fully catching on, at no point was it less than 20 spots below "Adorn" on the radio charts
― some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
re-entered the hip-hop/r&b top 50 this week but yeah... i mean "adorn" is still hanging around the top 40, i'm not sure if any single would've succeeded in its shadow
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 March 2013 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
"how many drinks" is dope tho so it's cool
yeah it's great, the rap gets stuck in my head
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 March 2013 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
still amazed at "Adorn"'s success.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 March 2013 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
― dead cera (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, January 2, 2013 2:56 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark
http://instagram.com/p/XY0P2Gi194/
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
and that we ended up with kenny and not wale is a small miracle
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
lol kendrick is going to turn the song into another temperance movement anthem, isn't he
miguel's 'rap' isn't really like a 16 bar thing and it directly transitions into the great variations in the last chorus so i hope they just add the kendrick verse to the song and don't do any kind of swap out w/ that section
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
also kendrick's wardrobe is getting a little miguel haha
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 11:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah miggy's rap is fine
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
i mean "that ass is colossal" is one of those things that ends up not really sounding very seductive/complimentary, but the way the spoken bit drifts into the "waste my time/waste your time" bit and then those great ad libs over the chorus is awesome
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
"waste my time/waste your time" bit and then those great ad libs over the chorus is awesome
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:39 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah this is the best part of the song, the entire final 30 or 45 seconds or whatever it is
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
but it always seemed obv to me that they'd just switch in a real rapper to give it some juice as a single
it's def not a desecration on the level of Wiz on "Adorn" but the way Kendrick bunts songs like "Fuckin' Problems" has me wary
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
people love his "fuckin problems" verse
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I think its a solid verse
― 乒乓, Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
yeah me too
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
kendrick getting outrapped by asap is some "your bodyguard's oochie wallie verse better than yours" shit
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
hah asap's verse is the 'kill' out of marry fuck kill on that song
― 乒乓, Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
you want dih dih???
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
i'll never tell
there's not one hot line in the kendrick verse, it's all a bunch of half-hearted almost punchlines. people do like the weird way he says "dick" almost as much as the weird way he says "bitch," though.
lol xpost
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Thursday, March 28, 2013 1:03 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
people love this shit. seriously.
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
ugh, I roll my eyes so hard at that line
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
girl i'm kendrick lamar / a.k.a. volcanic to me is lahar
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
pro tip: make kendrick's lamar a lot weirder by imagining him saying "pampers and threesomes tomorrow"
― 乒乓, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
piss on em all, go potty in the hallway
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
Has this remix come out yet?
― Evan R, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
nah only announced
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Stirred a lot of buzz for just an announcement. But anyway, Kendrick can't do worse by the song than Jay-Z did to the "BKMV" remix. Cautiously optimistic
― Evan R, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
also lol
― Evan R, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
aw fuck http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1556552/miguel-to-release-new-art-dealer-chic-ep-series-this-summer
― J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
o_o
― 乒乓, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
!!!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
just literally did this
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1363027971_2cdvayx.gif
― The Reverend, Friday, 5 April 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
awesome. i had been low level sulking about the thought that we got like 16 mostly stellar solo tracks from him last year and would probably only get scattered features this year, happy to be proven wrong.
― the drummer for gay Daddy Yankee (some dude), Friday, 5 April 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
lol "Adorn" is BACK at #1 on r&b/hip-hop airplay after a few weeks of drifting to #2. the song has not left the top 3 once in the last 7 or 8 months.
― the drummer for gay Daddy Yankee (some dude), Friday, 5 April 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
wau
― The Reverend, Friday, 5 April 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
Makes sense. I hear it on R&B radio at least three times a week on mornings #proud
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 April 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
mig continues making otherwise boring rap&B songs worth hearing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p_6APDG6Ls
― the drummer for gay Daddy Yankee (some dude), Monday, 8 April 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
i really like "power trip" a lot
― J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
i like that Miguel makes the most of his tiny half-chorus on that song by singing a distinctly different take each time
― the drummer for gay Daddy Yankee (some dude), Monday, 8 April 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
A friend recently pointed out the "Kaleidoscope Dream" sample is from the same song used in "My Name Is."
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
Also I know this has been discussed on the Kendrick thread but phrases like "the new classics" or "future classics" have been hugely bothering me.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
oh i thought it was directly from "my name is" (didn't realize that "my name is" sampled any other song), good to know
― teddy dominatrix (dyl), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
― billstevejim, Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:26 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wait what does that have to do w/ this thread, who said that itt?
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
they're on the cover of vibe (or digital vibe) with the tagline NEW CLASSICS
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
since no one else is going to post ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cp58rWCR8Y
― Number None, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
oh wow i didn't know it was also the "streets is watching" track
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/miguelofficial/how-many-drinks-remix-feat
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
“How Many Drinks Remix (feat. Kendrick Lamar)?”
excellently-placed q mark
unfortunately the answer is no
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
lol at "pool full of liquor then we dive... innit", is kendrick having pie & mash
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
Could have been worse. Lamar's verse is pretty unobtrusive, and he adds a nice little hook in the middle there. Better than the Wiz/Big Sean/B.o.B alternatives
― Evan R, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
The "Swimming Pools" callback feels cheap and self-celebratory though
would have seemed silly not to really
not three times however
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Ha. I like the Kendrick remix.
― longneck, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
As is the case with the retconned "BDKMV" remix, I think it would have been a lot funnier if they'd just dropped in the Jay-Z "Monster" verse.
"You look good, we came to party / But I don't wanna waste my time / Sasquatch, Godzilla, King Kong, Loch Ness / Goblin, ghoul, a zombie with no conscious..."
― Evan R, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this is not good
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
remix actually makes me miss "that ass is colossal"
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
I liked the arrangement and delivery of "Adorn" on Saturday Night Live, but what was that 2nd number--r'n'b swithcing rapidly to rock and back with schlocky hair-metal guitar
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 April 2013 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, "How Many Drinks"
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 April 2013 06:09 (eleven years ago) link
the obligatory great performance of "Adorn"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_mWKznZb3M
and what even the fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6stNQUnJA
fuckin guy
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Sunday, 14 April 2013 06:33 (eleven years ago) link
didn't those songs use to be in swing time?
― Popture, Sunday, 14 April 2013 06:57 (eleven years ago) link
That rock version clatters a bit in the last third, but, man, is his voice actually getting stronger each time out?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
I kinda hated what the guitarist was doing during the first couple verses but everything else was fantastic
― Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 14 April 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
Stuck "Miguel snl" into twitter and saw many tweets from women hailing Miguel, many tweets from middle-aged white guys saying either who is Miguel or bashing his performance, and a fair amount of folks just saying "hey this guy is kinda like Prince."
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 April 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
middle aged white guys surprisingly off tm, theyre usually so reliable :/
― "privilege" is not a meme. but "privilege is not a meme" is a meme. (m bison), Sunday, 14 April 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/dylanls1763/status/323297273524142081
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Sunday, 14 April 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
I like the profile photo: chilling with his bros
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 April 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
WTF @ "how many drinks" performance
― brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 April 2013 02:23 (eleven years ago) link
i sort of love it, like "how many drinks" is a nice song but no one in 10 years was ever gonna be like oh man, i should track down his performance of "how many drinks" on SNL
― brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 April 2013 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
dig it
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Monday, 15 April 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
^ mawg
But if someone only saw that version of "How Many Drinks" and had never heard "Adorn" I could see them not being convinced of Miguel's talent.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 April 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
if you're not already on board idk what to tell you
― brony james (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but i mean it is cool when he goes on tv and wins over some of the kelly clarksons of the world -- album is still a ways from going gold, would be great if his fanbase keeps growing
― Rapper Boy (some dude), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
otm too
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 15 April 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
i really like that he continues to experiment and stretch his songs into new shapes but i was making a screwface at him for most of that "how many drinks" performance
feels like a disappointing choice of single for several reasons in any case
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 15 April 2013 08:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but its got legs... i too would have liked to see an alterno version of 'do you'
― 乒乓, Monday, 15 April 2013 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ !!! not a big fan of "how many drinks", but i'd gladly take a bullet for "do you"
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Monday, 15 April 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
ha this performance is hilarious. would probably come off better as a cool surprise 50 minutes into a set, or even as a tag at the end of the "Adorn" performance, but hey it's SNL, he got two songs, he wanted to take a risk with the 2nd one, might as well do it there since he wouldn't get to on the Tonight Show or w/e.
― Rapper Boy (some dude), Monday, 15 April 2013 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
what would the radio version of "do you" be like... do u like dogs?
― zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 15 April 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
do you like mugsdo you like mugsYeah? Me too.Do you like decaf coffeeplastic spoonsMama said "Bad idea – lattes in June"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 April 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
the actual radio version that radio has been playing for the last 6 months goes "do you like love"
― some dude, Monday, 15 April 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
plus hugs
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Monday, 15 April 2013 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but the hugs were already in the original version
― some dude, Monday, 15 April 2013 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
also iirc it ends with the bummer of "i'm gonna do you like ____ tonight"
― some dude, Monday, 15 April 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
shame he never caught onto "sensitive thugs / do you need hugs"
― Tim F, Monday, 15 April 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
those snl performances are the best
never gonna be able to say that sentence again
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 15 April 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
im not gonna hold yr dick miguel
― 乒乓, Friday, 19 April 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
why not?
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Friday, 19 April 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
this reminds me of the video where he's having air sex
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 19 April 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
HMD vid is hella dope, love the cinematography
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 April 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
also kendricks verse is good
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 April 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
big homie's on the new mariah single apparently
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 April 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
i read they were shooting a video and aaaaahhhhh yessssss
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 22 April 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
hm can't quite imagine how that collabo might go
― r|t|c, Monday, 22 April 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
yeah...after he went to work on alicia's album and ended up w/ a solo cut with her backing vox, it's increasingly hard to really predict what his work w/ mariah or beyonce will sound like, especially since he hasn't even really done a duet w/ any female singer at this point, has he? will he cave to pressure to give people the "adorn" knockoff they probably want, throw a curveball, etc.
― some dude, Monday, 22 April 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
miggy just tweeted this fan remix which i can't quite get my head around yet https://soundcloud.com/cashmerecat/do-you-cashmere-cat-remix
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
haha wow someone went full retard
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
lol the pharrell "beautiful" ad libs
― some dude, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
this is how my thoughts went1.) hmm okay i can get this2.) whoa this is getting really busy with the vocal cut ups3.) this thing's got way too many ideas in it4.) wait maybe the purpose of this is to be so schizophrenic5.) is this what the kids are into these days?? is this "edm"???
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
This really is called "Do You Cashmere Cat? (Remix)", right?
― supermassive pot hole (seandalai), Thursday, 25 April 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
Elle Varner cowrote "Use Me"!?
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 April 2013 04:57 (ten years ago) link
they should do a duet, that would be hot on that track
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 25 April 2013 05:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah they should totally do a duet but part of that track's hotness is that miguel is basically singing it as a duet with himself
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Thursday, 25 April 2013 05:17 (ten years ago) link
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 25 April 2013 05:26 (ten years ago) link
I can't be alone in loving what he does on the new J Cole single...
― Lambo Sedan (Whitey on the Moon), Friday, 3 May 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
i like that he makes the most of his very tiny half chorus by singing it a distinctly different way every time, but honestly the song would be just about as good without him on it, feels almost like a perfunctory 'let's add an R&B singer to this song even though it already has a hook' move.
― Ship Lion (some dude), Friday, 3 May 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
i like r&b singers used as accents on rap songs, so i'm into it
that's a really great song but i've never 100% warmed to the beat
― J0rdan S., Friday, 3 May 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
"power trip" is fine but i think it's ridiculous that it gets so much more respect than "nobody's perfect"
― Ship Lion (some dude), Friday, 3 May 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
His bit on Talib Kweli's "Come Here" is good as sung verse but man are the verses pedestrian on both sides.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 May 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
"Sure Thing" was produced by happy perez???
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 5 May 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
"Don't Look Back" too!
― Fred by Durst (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 May 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
XD
http://www.xclusiveszone.net/2013/05/mariah-carey-ft-miguel-beautiful/
― Ship Lion (some dude), Monday, 6 May 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link
love it
― Number None, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link
lolol.. the harmonies in the last 20 secs
― tpp, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link
A+
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:23 (ten years ago) link
SONG OF THE SUMMER
― maura, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link
kinda does the Adorn thing of being just a little bit too short, which leaves you wanting more of course
― Number None, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:27 (ten years ago) link
how does mariah carey only have 3000 followers on soundcloud and icona pop has 70,000. mariah needs to fire her social media team
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:30 (ten years ago) link
did she just make an account today to release that song?
― Ship Lion (some dude), Monday, 6 May 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link
she has a few other songs up
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link
uhm she did like 15 minutes ago, some other outtakes and stuff, idk
sounds great, but kind of strange that it's basically "Miguel feat. Mariah Carey" on what is supposed to be Mariah's big comeback single
― breastcrawl, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:45 (ten years ago) link
soundcloud is for dorks is how
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:45 (ten years ago) link
yeahh this song is the shit, very saadiq
mariah's entrance brings it UP
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:48 (ten years ago) link
oh but it needs to be longer wtf, is this the 'adorn' stratagem again
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link
well it's an improvement on rick ross & meek mill ft. mariah carey on her big comeback single
― prolego, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link
it sure is. but if this one doesn't do it for her, she should do an Ariana Grande feat. Mariah Carey next time.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link
i was rly expecting her to take back control of the track in those extra two minutes that never came
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:56 (ten years ago) link
i guess she knew she was gonna end up in the Miguel thread anyway
― breastcrawl, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:03 (ten years ago) link
3:22 is not too short, it's just right. the 4 minute minimum is one of the worst things about popular music these days.
― Ship Lion (some dude), Monday, 6 May 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
9 of the last 10 US #1 singles have been under 4 mintues!
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Monday, 6 May 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
it's a def problem in rap radio
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link
http://www.missinfo.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/beautiful1.jpg
wait is this supposed to be her on the back of his bike???
but yeah, incredible tune
― Jacques_Lamure, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link
― Ship Lion (some dude), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:14 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark
thnx for the boilerplate grumble but were we not discussing one specific song
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
damn, mariah owes miggy for this one
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
Miguel @MiguelUnlimited 4munedited version >
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
i think there's just a "fuckin" in there somewhere
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
o i c. up on itunes now i guess
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link
Not bad. The hashtag is the worst part about it.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link
I'm saying this one specific song is not too short!
― Ship Lion (some dude), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
whoa mariah comes in with a purpose
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Monday, 6 May 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
i think she feels a bit grafted onto the song but that's sorta besides the point
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
she does feel grated onto it, but it sounds like a duet enough so i'm good, but yeah fuck, this could've been a great solo miggy track obvs
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
grafted*
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
mariah getting grated onto a song does sound interesting tho
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
Miguel spending the first verse singing about how beautiful Mariah is = the red carpet
― Drugs A. Money, Monday, 6 May 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
she sounds good: less raspy than has been her wont.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
Somebody should make a "radio edit" that swaps out Mariah for Kendrick, just to troll
― Evan R, Monday, 6 May 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
this is pretty good. nearly worthy of the massive e-hype.
lol i can't believe that ended up being the actual single cover tho.
― dyl, Monday, 6 May 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
yeah the single art is fucking awful
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
omggggggg yes
glad mariah is mostly full-voice, only a little bit breathy but yeah I love this. I feel like I can rely on Miguel to bring the good handclap action
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
her entrance is beautiful
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
i think the balance of how much mariah there is is interesting. can't rly think of other big names releasing something with this template (coming in on the 2nd verse). it's kinda like she just thinks the song is cooler that way, and i get it. i mean, he is driving the bike, i assume
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
THIS SONG IS PERFECT
just listening to it on repeat
they feel pretty perfectly balanced - miguel in the driving seat but boyyyy mariah's entrance is something, and then she immediately takes it UP a notch
no way does she feel grafted on, you one track minded fanboys
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
the guitar is amazing
and wow: written and produced by just Miguel and Carey. I thought she'd indenture her phalanx of collaborators.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
lex calling us fanboys is ironic i feel like
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
Wow, just heard it on the adult contemporary radio station they play in the restaurant where I grabbed lunch today. Nice.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 May 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
does anyone actually have the explicit versh btw? the only one on uk itunes blanks out the swearing :(
mariah's "OH! how you thrill me!" >>>>>>>>>>>
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
and yeah it's so frustratingly both the perfect length and infinitely too short because why would i not want this to continue playing forever
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
the little laughs in the background <3
i have the feeling this is gonna be like "how many drinks" where the fucks are censored as artistic decision
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
i kinda like how the censoring makes "with an ass like that" sound like "with an act like that"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
i definitely listened to it 4 times on my huge headphones immediately upon waking up
I LIKE IT WHEN YOU RUN RED LIGHTS
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
i am v happy
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
that opening harmony is rad
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
OH YR KILLIN ME OH YOU KNOW IT AIN'T FAIR
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
a friend who is a mariah fan dislikes this song and i'm convinced his ears are broken and i'm so mad about it
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
yell at him
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
i am right now! he's comparing it to "billionaire" and "i'm yours" and i hate him now
ex-friendz
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
this song is yr friend now
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm very much into the TO ME TO MEEEE'S in this
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
this thing practically shimmers
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
where's the fun in forever?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
should i listen to it again b4 i get home or save up for the bass at my apt
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
today of all days I leave my good headphones at home and have to listen to this through horrible apple earbuds ohhhh such a sadface
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
i cannot wait for waking up on a hot summer morning and BLASTING this
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
the sea of mariahs under the 1st verse is p nice
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
i love the amp buzz
― goole, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah
for some reason 'pizza is mine' gets stuck in my head after i listen to this, every time
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
LOVE THIS MORE THAN LIFE
― Tim F, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
it's tough to praise this adequately but the commonplace? familiar? way the chord changes and melody play off each other is so good, the non-surprise surprise of the move(s) at "mean a thing...", you know?
― goole, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
i am feeling emotional
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
haha yes this line
― Fred by Durst (The Reverend), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
i am literally just navigating different screens looking for anything that says mariah #beautiful
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
so where/what are the cusswords in this? i thought it was maybe in the chorus but now i don't think so
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
i gotta say when alfred said it i didnt realise the hashtag was actually actually in the song title... shit is unpardonable
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/YXfIhJW.jpg
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
i haven't heard the explicit but he very clearly says "fucking beautiful" twice in the chorus
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
this is worse for some reason
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
best line is obv "u make me feel undressable" fyi btw
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
it is real good that line
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah i thought it was in the chorus but these... uh... ones i'm samplin from itunes also blank it out, even tho miggy said the unedited one was up on itunes so idk maybe miggy was wrong xp
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
i was waiting for a word against the #, there it is i guess
― goole, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
ts this vs "my love"
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
undressable otm
i was waiting on a mariahism and she didn't disappoint
― prolego, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
yes i think it would be reasonable to conclude that the explicit version is not yet out there
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
the more i listen to this, my love of it does not waver but it sorta feels like the single that would happen if mariah died 3 years ago and her hologram was going on tour now
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
A good afternoon: playing this, Pistol Annies, and VW leak.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
Trey was trolling tho. this is a sincere hashtag. also The Time already set the gold standard for #songtitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APsNgDUTYE8
― Fred by Durst (The Reverend), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, May 6, 2013 10:39 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i have no idea what this means, but please don't talk about mariah dying. xoxo
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
thought you were gonna post "Gigolos Get Lonely Too."
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
honestly kinda psyched to see the video on Wednesday now
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
i love the hashtag. feels of the time and relevant. lol @ u olds
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
lol jordan
jazze pha voice just popped up in my head like "the mimi duets!!"
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
feels of the time
literally wrote out that i was becoming ok with this because it was 'au courant' and then couldn't hit submit; felt even more lol u old to explain it, idk
― goole, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
yeah i'm into the tag
― surm, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
lol well i was being semifacetious with the second sentence, but the general sentiment still stands
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 22:45 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
ur the ariana grande to lagoon's mariah
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
helpful differentiation from christina aquilera, at least
― goole, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
should typing miguel maria be too much for you at any given time
with a hashtag like that and a smile so bright
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
*mariah
guess it was too much for me, see?
― goole, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:32 (23 minutes ago) Permalink
think he says 'with a *** like that'
― just sayin, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
ah, right
― 乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
lemme know when the uncensored version comes out someone
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 6 May 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
ohhhhh man this song
― the display names will fall like rain (Matt P), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link
Enjoy the song plenty fine but I'm a little 'er?' at the hyper 'oh yes this is summer incarnate HOORAY' presale feelings being heaped on it. Let it happen, y'know?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
Summer anthems are like any other -- they become anthems, they're aren't conscripted. Remember "Born This Way."
i just - if this is playing out of jeeps i dunno what will be
― surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
*if this isn't
Said it on Twitter, did anyone call "Call Me Maybe" when it first hit the States?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link
ascension of summer to olympian theoretical abstract is probably one of the finer symptoms of music crit nerdery imo, it's not just cynical firsties
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
i just wanna hear mariah on the streets again
― surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
xp although the ones that creep up on you are still always the best of course
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link
i wanna be shopping at the strip mall and hear this floating out of Express
― surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
For a second I got this and the Savages thread confused and went "There's a thought..."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link
i'm just gonna pretend hashtags in song titles aren't a thing, in hopes that they will go away and everyone will act like they never happened
― ḉrut (crüt), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link
#ḉrut #crüt
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link
lol otm xp
― Fred by Durst (The Reverend), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link
― r|t|c, Monday, May 6, 2013 5:45 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hahahahhaa
― Ship Lion (some dude), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:14 (ten years ago) link
Enjoy the ~vibe~, but it feels so ephemeral...
― jaymc, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:54 (ten years ago) link
how does the chorus not get stuck in your head after 2 listens?
― Ship Lion (some dude), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link
guess i need a 3rd b/c it's slipped my mind
and yeah, count me among the pleased-but-not-hugely-enthusiastic crowd
― dyl, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link
i almost feel like connie stevens could be singing the chorus
― surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link
same
― Fred by Durst (The Reverend), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
yall need to un-pop your collars and get with this
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link
What, you think I'm in fucking Vampire Weekend or something?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:58 (ten years ago) link
yes ned I do
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link
i like this but i wish the outtro lasted longer.
― monotony, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link
― Ship Lion (some dude), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:56 (7 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah srsly this has been one of the most immediate earworms i can recall (probably since 'adorn' actually?), was properly singing it to myself the rest of the day even while my opinion of the song was still nascent
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 10:09 (ten years ago) link
miggy always got the great first lines you can't wait to bust out
HOP ON is the new THESE LIPS is the new SEDATE ME is the new BLACK LEATHER SKIRT IN A LEOPARD PRINT SHIRT WHOA
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link
that hop on is like a drug
― surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
oh, you're killin' me - do it again
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
i actually can't stop playing this? like it's just been happily on repeat since i first heard it yesterday evening with only a few token breaks to watch tennis, sleep, interview someone today, and during all of those activities i was pretty much measuring time in terms of "how long before i can listen to mariah and miguel again"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link
tbf i do keep wanting to sing "hop on the back of my bike / my mother says when u gonna live your life right"
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
yeah i played it twice this morning while i was getting ready, mariah's verse is just all i needed for summer right now
― surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
― r|t|c, Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:14 AM (5 hours ago)
this is a good point, he's not a poet or anything but his ability to avoid cliche is a pretty big strength. he's very economical with his lyrics
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
i remembered to bring my good headphones to work today
guess what I'm going to listen to allllllllllllll day
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
also I mishear Hop On as I Bone :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
I'm kind of infuriated by the hashtag. By definition, its insertion suggests that the song is intended as an ephemeral topic of discussion, or being used to promote something - a quick cash-in - and does not at all fit with any of the lyrics or timeless summery sound of the music.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
i feel like more is being made out of this hashtag thing than is worthwhile?
like, it's kinda on the nose but the fact that I can't stop listening to the song more than makes up for it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
as long as I'm not expected to pronounce the song 'hashtag beautiful'
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
^^^ a Vampire Weekend tune
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
'hashtag beautiful' has a nice cadence to it
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
did people get out of their seats when nicki was rapping about number signs. if anything hashtagging a song name in 2013 feels almost kind of old and outmoded
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
Also the song may become a trending topic that much sooner, since otherwise the title would be ungoogleable.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
I guess at least it has that much going for it... It sets itself apart from the 9000 other songs called "Beautiful."
not outmoded in the since that hashtags are ephemeral, but outmoded in that twitter is already established and sedimented, it's sort of web 1.5 in a way xp to myself
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
I feel like a lot more people are dropping hashtags ironically/jokingly this year? Like, the idea of doing this IRL / in contexts other than twitter is something that only just occurred to people? It seems a bit tardy to me but whatevs. Maybe Miguel and Mariah have timed it right in this regard.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
xp Yeah, good call... It feels like something that should have happened in like 2010.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
but honestly if you have strong opinions against the hashtagging of song titles that just makes you look corny + reactionary
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
oh my god the hashtag is dumb but it doesn't matter a tiniest bit and moaning about it is worse than its existence in the first place
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
unless, of course, youre rtc, who's always on the cutting edge, in front of the wave. luv u boo <3
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
I think its worth at least discussing... Gimmicks typically suggest insincerity. And it looks awkward to me.
I'll be over it within an hour though lol
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
it's ... a mariah song. she loves gimmicks. she also loves rainbows, butterflies, and candy bling. and she's totally sincere about it. this should come as no surprise to anyone.
― surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
also why are we doing this over two threads, can we not
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Tuesday, May 7, 2013 1:05 PM (25 minutes ago)
that's why it's lame!
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
lol i'm sorry but i had to bump my mariah thread, it felt important
― surm, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
I like that the new Mariah joint requires two threads running in conjunction to do it hype-justice.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
well it should have gone in the mariah thread in the first place but also it should have had one of its own
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc386/sabastious/thread_police.jpg
― Tim F, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
the #THICKE flashing on the screen throughout the "Blurred Lines" video is def a more funny use of corny hashtags, although i hope that's not the name of RT's next album or something (no wait -- "Please RT" would be the ideal twitter-themed Robin Thicke album title!)
― Ship Lion (some dude), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
"Please RT" would be the ideal twitter-themed Robin Thicke album title!
OMG please can this happen
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
yarn police
― max, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
haha at "Please RT"
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
― r|t|c, Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:34 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha, caught myself doing this too.
― How to Destroy How to Dress Well (lou), Thursday, 9 May 2013 12:21 (ten years ago) link
lol watch the first few seconds of this, where miguel goes WHHAP as ryan seacrest says his name:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4pGzl0JZE
also "i'm 27, the label will say i'm 26" <3
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Friday, 17 May 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
agggggh he's killin me
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
the man's face is impeccable
― J0rdan S., Friday, 17 May 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link
nothing hurts like his mouth
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
i like the way he laughs while he's singing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
Miguel = official ILX boyfriend.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 May 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
haha when Ne-Yo first came out with "So Sick", he came on the radio here for an interview and just about the first thing out of his mouth was "Hey, I just want to clear something up. My press bio says I'm 22. That's a lie, I'm actually 26." Endeared me to him immediately.
― The Reverend, Friday, 17 May 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
oh how he thrills me
― dyl, Saturday, 18 May 2013 07:55 (ten years ago) link
https://vine.co/v/b9q1DJrUFMa
― 乒乓, Monday, 20 May 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link
ohhhh my god
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link
wish I'd been that table
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link
or the side of that woman's head
― 乒乓, Monday, 20 May 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link
i didn't even see the second lady https://vine.co/v/b9q1Wp7a1vh
― 乒乓, Monday, 20 May 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link
he like shawn michaels the shit out of that poor girl, wtf miggy
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link
That girl probably saved his acl tbf
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 20 May 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/koSIaUQ.gif
― 乒乓, Monday, 20 May 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/PWXPcA3.gif
― 乒乓, Monday, 20 May 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/ZhDnh-BYty/
alright im dead
― 乒乓, Monday, 20 May 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah hulk much more tom i couldn't remember whose move that was
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
henceforth known as girl face kicker
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 20 May 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link
aaaaaaah
― dyl, Monday, 20 May 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UR4rZST38A&feature=share
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link
!!!!!
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2013 03:47 (ten years ago) link
hooooleeeeee shit
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 May 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/MIGUEL-MURDER.gif
― Moka, Monday, 20 May 2013 06:31 (ten years ago) link
Oh man
― ILE Wet Treeship Night (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 20 May 2013 06:53 (ten years ago) link
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/prince2.gifhttp://img822.imageshack.us/img822/6629/split.gifhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmgw88Qa4V1qaj6h8o1_500.gif
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 May 2013 07:53 (ten years ago) link
wtf are these people alive?
― flopson, Monday, 20 May 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
http://billboard.tumblr.com/post/50877885976/got-caught-up-in-the-moment-thank-goodness
― monotony, Monday, 20 May 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
What he doesn't mention is that the other woman died.
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
Source?
― ILE Wet Treeship Night (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 20 May 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
Yes, she died at the Source Awards
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 May 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
no, that was the Billboard awards
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
http://www.ramsheadgroup.com/files/2013/04/abbott-and-costello-whos-on-first.jpg
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
if you look at it in freeze-frame you can tell he literally decapitated her head from her body. i'm surprised she isn't suing him.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
well she's dead
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
personally i had no use for her but RIP
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md9az9VT4n1qegmaxo1_500.jpg
― yeeznuts (some dude), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKwmijtCAAA6nTe.png
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:35 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
still can't believe this
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
I've searched for at least an hour for some sort of confirmation about the second woman dying, and haven't found anything. Were you just joking about that Rev or were you for real? Where did you read that?
― ILE Wet Treeship Night (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 05:56 (ten years ago) link
it's a joke
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:13 (ten years ago) link
RIP
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:34 (ten years ago) link
the joke's as dead as the second woman now :(
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:36 (ten years ago) link
Lol. I mean, not that this is exactly out of character for me, but it's been a really really long day...
― ILE Wet Treeship Night (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:46 (ten years ago) link
i don't really get the joke?
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:52 (ten years ago) link
i don't really get whether any of the posts since the accident are meant to be funny actually
none of them actually are funny obv
Oh idk, pretty shocking and horrible overall but everyone seems to be ok and handling it well so now we can get a kick out of it
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:56 (ten years ago) link
*moves bookmark*
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link
i never thought a woman getting killed would be so funny
― goole, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
the "accident"
― flopson, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
clearly an attempted ritual beheading plotted by Miguel's illuminati puppetmasters at RCA
― wk, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
new art dealer chics are gonna be july -> aug -> sept
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
whoaaaa
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
!!!!
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
Miguel's 'Friend' From BBMAs May Sue Him:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1565430/miguels-friend-from-bbmas-may-sue-him
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
might as well, doubt she'll get anything more than a pittance out of him though
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
can't believe she's suing him for wrongful death ;_;
― give life back to usic (The Reverend), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
it's a shame, she was a friend
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Friday, 31 May 2013 04:57 (ten years ago) link
I was so stressed when I thought Miguel accidentally killed someone and kept on singing...
― Drugs A. Money, Friday, 31 May 2013 08:18 (ten years ago) link
Going to see him in London tonight, if I don't come back, avenge my death.
― Matt DC, Friday, 31 May 2013 08:47 (ten years ago) link
you will die with a smile on yr face, it's what we would have wanted
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 May 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
also i hate you and I would kill u myself
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/miguel-leg-drop-victim-brain-damage-sue_n_3384052.html
welp
― 乒乓, Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link
ambulance chasers, smh
After hearing that the Billboard people apparently told Miguel in rehearsal not to do the jump, I don't have much sympathy for him about all this, he can go ahead and come out of pocket for that shit.
― some dude, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
lronwalker
Its going to be very hard to prove brain damage, when the damage was already present, just by attending some crappy performance.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
lol owned
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 June 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
i see what u did there etc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link
hope that 'always in control, how you do it i don't know' line won't come back to haunt him
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
baby arch your backand point your toesso i can make surethere's no damage to your spinal cord
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
lol forks
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Drakewith Miguel & Future
Thursday, October 31Verizon Center
Who hasn't he opened for yet on a tour
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 18 June 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
First time I ever heard Miguel in public was at Bed Bath and Beyond yesterday
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 06:57 (ten years ago) link
which was he buying?
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 25 June 2013 07:46 (ten years ago) link
beyond, duh
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
=D
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
Jessie Ware is apparently on an "Adorn" remix which is coming out today.
― monotony, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:07 (ten years ago) link
!
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link
had a visceral, positive reaction to that. fingers crossed
http://picosong.com/RVjL/
― monotony, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link
well that was disappointing...just jessie ad libbing over the miguel track. lovely ad libs mind but hardly warranted the title of "remix"
THANKS FOR GETTING MY HOPES UP J-WARE
― monotony, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
I had to reformat my iPod yesterday, losing a bunch of songs including "#Beautiful." I had to buy it on iTunes. I hope I helped its sales.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah, this Ware remix is a whole lotta nothing.
― The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link
don't give up hope, guys, there's an Annie From Norway remix of "Adorn" coming in November, I can feel it
― what rhymes with Gukbe? (some dude), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
new art dealer chics are gonna be july -> aug -> sept― J0rdan S., dinsdag 21 mei 2013 23:55 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― J0rdan S., dinsdag 21 mei 2013 23:55 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
any news on this?
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
I know he has a song at the end of this year's Adult Swim singles series.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
Adult Swim Chic? should be nice. Hoping there will be something more sooner though. But then, he's still working Kaleidoscope Dream, so new Art Dealer Chic this summer was probably wishful thinking.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
i imagine there'll be something out during the Drake tour at least
― some dude, Thursday, 8 August 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
Oof!
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 15 August 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
I guess he liked drugs.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
buds iirc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 August 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
fuck him.
― Hooks on Phoenix worked for me (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 15 August 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
yeah that's lame. don't drive drunk, people.
― R'LIAH (goole), Thursday, 15 August 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
dipshit
― k3vin k., Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
Jamie, Johnny, and Jack know
― we run zings, zings don't run we (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
he's been a tortured soul since he killed that woman.
― SKYLER FFS SKYLER SKYLER SKYLER (Merdeyeux), Friday, 16 August 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link
― mucus has a right to children (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 16 August 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
so we know how many drinks it takes to get him home
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
sorry
― dyl, Friday, 16 August 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
damn girl: you made the lyric ref I groped for
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 August 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 August 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
New track.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 9 September 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
(alas, meh.)
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 9 September 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
i kinda like this but def sounds like something one would send to adult swim
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 September 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
lol exactly
― suggest ban & threadban method man & redman (some dude), Monday, 9 September 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
"hmmm should i give away a potential #1 radio hit as a free release in a series featuring Pig Destroyer and Dan Deacon?"
― suggest ban & threadban method man & redman (some dude), Monday, 9 September 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
if Dan Deacon released this track I wouldn't have batted an eyelash
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 September 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Kind of fun hearing a genuinely shitty Miguel track. Sounds like a demo of a song that could never work, so he just stopped trying and released it as is
― Evan R, Monday, 9 September 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
song isn't genuinely shitty at all... just sounds like a ADC vol 3 leftover
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 September 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, it's not up to his usual standards, but not really shitty. It feels like a b-side.
― Greer, Monday, 9 September 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah i quite like it. the talky/singy harmonies are nice.
― Waluigi Nono (Merdeyeux), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
Shitty and demo-ish. A perfect fit for Adult Swim.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
part of the telecast of Miguel doing Bill Withers "Ain't No Sunshine" with Keith Urban at the Grammys Nominations announcement show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igXOJlWNRQQ
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 December 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link
I saw this dude open for Drake last weekend, so good. Hope to see him again one day but not from the nosebleeds.
― Murgatroid, Saturday, 7 December 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link
new miguelito
this is pretty good imo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zYqsNM2XIZ0
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:25 (ten years ago) link
off the girls sndtrk even! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7GJcKuVGm8
― PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
Very moving song. This would choke me up if I heard it late at night on the radio.
― Evan R, Monday, 3 February 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
kind of minor but it's alright
― k3vin k., Monday, 3 February 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
Yeah
― Tim F, Monday, 3 February 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link
sounds like one of the Art Dealer Chic tracks that didn't make my final cut.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
It repeats some of the same sounds as ADC/KD, so it's a bit redundant in that sense, but the sentiments are a lot more realized. The song definitely connects in a way the lesser ADC tracks didn't
― Evan R, Monday, 3 February 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link
as a tune it's like a 7.5 out of 10 but lyrically it aligns w/ my life to a scary degree so i'm kind of smitten
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link
i just want someone to smoke with me, babeand lay with me, babeand laugh with me, babei just want the simple things
preach bruh
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link
ick on the free spirit stuff though
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link
well yeah but that idea is always lurking in his music
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link
i hear this as a companion piece to "#beautiful" in a few ways
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 February 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
xxxp
I mean, who doesn't want that kind of companionship? It's a beautifully simple, universal sentiment.
Song would have been a better Kaleidoscope Dream closer than "Candles in the Sun," since the personal scope is way more in keeping with the rest of the album than the babies on crack/save the world goofiness of "Candles"
― Evan R, Monday, 3 February 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
i hope the rock direction of these latest two freebies are some experimentation though and not a BOLD NEW DIRECTION
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
His greatest gift is to change these banalities he barely sketches into privileged moments, in every sense: the audience is almost playing voyeur.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, February 3, 2014 4:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think this and the Adult Swim track are probably coming out between album cycles pointedly because they're inaccessible little things that don't pose a threat of popping off and becoming a radio hit before they've started gearing up the promotional machine. also they sound self-produced, maybe he's doing a lot of stuff on his own before he goes in the studio with outside producers to get something more polished. the guitar was always there, though, there's YouTubes of him playing covers on guitar from a year before the first album. maybe it'll be on the next album heavier, though, i could see it.
― scott c-word (some dude), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah i mean it's a thin line cf his live shows but i hope he stays more r&b
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link
"Arch & Point" worked as genre exercise AND song but yeah I wouldn't want a whole album of clones.
a whole album of "Use Me"s however
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
His live show is guitar heavy to an album obnoxious degree (it's cool at first but after a while it begins to feel like a Living Colour concert or something). He's got a good thing going on urban radio, though, so I'm sure he's not going to sacrifice that by going full Chili Peppers on his next major release
― Evan R, Monday, 3 February 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
I like the guitar heavy stuff, so I don;'t really mind.
― Greer, Monday, 3 February 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
This is def better than that adult swim track.
― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 05:09 (ten years ago) link
Heard the first line as "She said, 'I don't want a Midol.'"
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 February 2014 13:11 (ten years ago) link
Miguel and The Jets
― vmajestic, Friday, 21 March 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
Mi-mi-mi-mi-Miguel and the Jets
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 March 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
Less annoying than the original. But then again, most things are.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Friday, 21 March 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
The original used to bug me a lot but ultimately became one of my favorite Elton songs. Miggy's version is FIRE.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 21 March 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
that synth bass is killer. hope his next album has some stuff with that sound.
― The Greta Gerwig In The Sky (some dude), Friday, 21 March 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Pointless, but, man, I get so much pleasure from hearing him sing, partly because he does.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 March 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link
can't listen right now but I'll have you know I KILLED THE FUCK OUT OF "Benny" at karaoke a month or two back, Kate78 can back me up on this
― The Reverend, Friday, 21 March 2014 20:56 (ten years ago) link
did you then proceed to leap over the bar and kick some poor woman in the head?
― We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 March 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link
love it, love it.
based on this and his A+ Zombies cover on 'don't look back', I'd love to hear him do a covers album at some point in the future
and Alfred otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 March 2014 21:06 (ten years ago) link
removed due to a DMCA complaint!
― Number None, Friday, 21 March 2014 23:41 (ten years ago) link
Woah, liked this
― Popture, Saturday, 22 March 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link
I finally like this song.
― vmajestic, Saturday, 22 March 2014 03:12 (ten years ago) link
kinda feel sorry4u if benny wasn't your #1 elton jam to begin with tbh
― The Reverend, Saturday, 22 March 2014 05:41 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 March 2014 06:07 (ten years ago) link
Not even Wale could ruin this. But Wale really should stop anyway.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Saturday, 22 March 2014 06:12 (ten years ago) link
Wale is so neutral and faceless that he's usually only a problem if left to his own devices. He ain't fuckin up shit. But Walereally should stop anyway.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 22 March 2014 06:52 (ten years ago) link
Guest raps on otherwise fairly faithful covers of songs that didn't have a rap to begin with are just generally a bad look, Wale or not
― The Greta Gerwig In The Sky (some dude), Saturday, 22 March 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link
yall dont have the benny & the jets live at bowery ballroom bootleg w guest rap by a young kurtis blow?
― rhyme heals all goons (m bison), Saturday, 22 March 2014 14:28 (ten years ago) link
here is miguel's collab with carlos santana WAIT COME BACK IT'S PRETTY MUCH A MIGUEL SONG WITH A THICKER GUITAR PART
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OZ6CHAkRhI
― maura, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:20 (ten years ago) link
To date "Arch n Point" is the only guitar joint of his that's worked imo
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 01:24 (ten years ago) link
ehh its alright, some corny lines
― IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link
Vixen?
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 09:18 (ten years ago) link
I'd call Do You a guitar joint also
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 09:19 (ten years ago) link
also Use Me, The Thrill, #Beautiful...
― posi riot (some dude), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 13:04 (ten years ago) link
does this mean rob thomas is gonna collab with mariah?
― nathey, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 13:10 (ten years ago) link
i wonder if this show will include new stuff http://www.bestbuytheater.com/events/detail/249785
― maura, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 13:12 (ten years ago) link
When I saw Miguel live he had a stereotypical bar-band guitarist in his band
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
there's a lot of amused posts about his guitarist itt, who looks goofy but adds some great stuff to "Adorn" and some other songs imo
― posi riot (some dude), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:34 (ten years ago) link
I'm just reminded of how I much better the song "Game of Love" would be if it didn't have Santana on it.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link
love his guitarist
― IKEA metaballs (Spottie), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link
this santana song is a jam
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:35 (ten years ago) link
give me all the Miggy guitar joints imo
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:36 (ten years ago) link
"Teach Me" FFS!
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:38 (ten years ago) link
^still my favorite song by him. alfred that was a wacky statement
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link
a rev has come around on AIWIY?
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 16 April 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
ehh, not really but that's def the best deep cut
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Thursday, 17 April 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
i'm into the santana joint but why is santana's guitar tone so gross and plasticky.
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 20 April 2014 02:52 (ten years ago) link
I think you mean... smooth
Also yeah Miguel's guitarist is great!
― maura, Sunday, 20 April 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
"Your body is a templeit just might be the Temple of Doom"
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpxbYH22DNY
― Spottie, Friday, 30 May 2014 06:09 (nine years ago) link
oct. 21 per the boy himself https://twitter.com/DiscoGeesus/status/510591125254852609
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 September 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
one of my local stations played "Simple Things" during their new music hour recently. would be funny if the single ended up being something that's already been out for months and months again like with "Adorn."
― some dude, Saturday, 13 September 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Tyler the Prognosticator
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 September 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
"simple things" is dope but it would be cool if he came back with something like "adorn" that just screams HIT
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 September 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
agreed
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 13 September 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
That's my tweet! Yeah he announced it at the show last night, which was killer even for the short set that it was:
Kaleidoscope DreamThe ThrillSimple ThingsAll I Want is YouSure ThingPower TripHow Many DrinksAnd then ended with Adorn of course.
The Mack Wilds set wasn't bad either.
― Greer, Saturday, 13 September 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
oh my gosh that's about as good as a setlist that short could be. sneak in "do you" and it'd be perfect. excited there'll be a new album so soon <3
― dyl, Saturday, 13 September 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, September 13, 2014 3:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i know a lot of people here loved "Adorn" from the jump but my point was nobody really had an idea it was gonna be a radio song (let alone a huge #1 radio song) for the first 6 months or so it was out. not to say "Simple Things" will be that but it feels like a grower to me.
― some dude, Saturday, 13 September 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
it's kind of just at dope album track level tho :/
― The Reverend, Sunday, 14 September 2014 01:46 (nine years ago) link
he put out a video for it a few months ago too, although it's just kind of a low key thing in the vein of the "The Thrill" and "Candles In The Sun" videos
― some dude, Sunday, 14 September 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link
fell into a live miguel youtube wormhole and I realized one thing I really love about him is he never gives the same vocal performance twice. he's always toying with the songs, venturing further out.
― bobby shmorbius (The Reverend), Sunday, 28 September 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link
red alert
http://instagram.com/p/t8DL6SC172/?modal=true
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/bUf7c8i.png
― 龜, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Praying he doesn't turn me into a liar.
― Greer, Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
omgggg
― dyl, Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
that sounds great
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 October 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
aieeeee
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 October 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2014/11/Screen-Shot-2014-11-13-at-11.33.52-PM-608x609.png
― vmajestic, Friday, 21 November 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link
who are those dudes with miggy
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 November 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link
jai paul and his brother (who cares)
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 22 November 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link
good evening, bishes
https://soundcloud.com/Miguel
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2014 08:36 (nine years ago) link
― dyl, Friday, 19 December 2014 08:38 (nine years ago) link
I feel like I've already heard "Coffee"?
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2014 08:47 (nine years ago) link
he previewed like 5 seconds of it thru some social media thing earlier this yr
― dyl, Friday, 19 December 2014 09:00 (nine years ago) link
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:38 AM (2 months ago)
― dyl, Friday, 19 December 2014 09:01 (nine years ago) link
anyway my browser is being shitty and crashing on soundcloud constantly but this all sounds pretty good
― dyl, Friday, 19 December 2014 09:02 (nine years ago) link
yo peep those gorgeous spanish background vocals on "NWA"!
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2014 09:03 (nine years ago) link
omg "nwa" is gorgeous
why does "coffee" end like that i was having a nice time
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2014 09:56 (nine years ago) link
saying nothing about the music but that EP art is o_O
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 December 2014 12:56 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, December 19, 2014 4:56 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
haha same
my guess is that they're gonna try and play that one as the single. we'll prob hear the full version at some point later.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 December 2014 13:00 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend,
Miggy listening to "I Want You (She's So Heavy)"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 December 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link
these are great songs. is this a "surprise ep release"? if this is a trend -- e.g., burial, beyonce, d'angelo, maybe miguel (?) -- i'm all for it.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 19 December 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
the guitar sound effects on "NWA" sound like he's been listening to Tom Ze.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 December 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link
"surprise" albums are def a thing right now but generally singles or little EPs like this don't have much advance promotion. I don't think there was a lot of Art Dealer Chic hype before the first one dropped. Big Sean dropping 4 songs at once a while back ended up being a good launching pad for his current single, so this does seem to be a format people might switch to instead of full mixtapes or dropping a single by itself.
― christmas with the canks (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's sort of an agreeable meeting point... you still get the opportunity to crowdsource a single out of ~3-4 songs w/o having to put out a full album's worth of material and dealing with all that encompasses
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 December 2014 13:21 (nine years ago) link
:D :D :D :D :D
― maura, Friday, 19 December 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Friday, 19 December 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
i want to wrap myself in the guitar tone on the verses of 'hollywood dreams'
also, wait, did we never talk about his chemical brothers collab in this thread? it's really loud and places his voice in a really excellent new context, and it's one of my favorite songs of the year - i'm hoping he becomes a gallagher-like frequent collaborator for them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAgnJxxFtHY
― maura, Friday, 19 December 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
that is the worst opinion
― r|t|c, Friday, 19 December 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link
what?
― maura, Friday, 19 December 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link
I was going to say, I missed something.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 December 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
That CB track is really nice
― 龜, Friday, 19 December 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
It's really vile. It looks like a Hinder EP or something
― Evan R, Friday, 19 December 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
woah that miguel + chemical brothers song is actually pretty great
― JB, Friday, 19 December 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
― Evan R, Friday, December 19, 2014 10:38 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol dog
― J0rdan S., Friday, 19 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
gimme a whole ep of miguel songs about coffee
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
we shuddered about the miguel/chem bros track elsewhere iirc
personally i thought it was horrendously awful
― lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2014 16:37 (nine years ago) link
isn't half as good as the worst track on this EP (of which there isn't one)
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
imo the miguel/chem bros song is fine, chorus is fun
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
i missed it but yeah i really like it. chaotic and allowing him to do his thing in a new environment
― maura, Friday, 19 December 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson)
next up is Miguel's "Cream."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 December 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link
look up in the air
― maura, Friday, 19 December 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
street art and sarcasmcrass humor and high fashion
― 龜, Friday, 19 December 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
pick a star in the sky, we could both say goodbye, all night
this nwa song is hypnotic and cool. want a whole album like this.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 20 December 2014 02:57 (nine years ago) link
i start to be all omg his phrasing then i'm omg his voice and then omg hoooks and just omg why is he so rad
i really like that hollywood dream song
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 December 2014 05:42 (nine years ago) link
"Coffee" is gorgeous. Can't wait till it's a full song.
― MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Saturday, 20 December 2014 07:23 (nine years ago) link
the spanish vocals behind nwa reminds me of some 70s classic rock song (fly like an eagle?)
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 21 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
Suite Judy Blue Eyes, Carry On or some other CSN(Y) song?
― MarkoP, Sunday, 21 December 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
"Suite Judy Blue Eyes" would make sense.
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
love the pm dawn vibe on coffee.
― Heez, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
"Suite Judy Blue Eyes" would make sense.― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Sunday, December 21, 2014
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Sunday, December 21, 2014
yeah, this could be it.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
i wanna marry him
http://www.thefader.com/2015/02/11/miguel-at-home-with
― young pc thug (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
omg me too
― dyl, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
did he just say "rad times indeed"...
i too will marry him but just for the pad and munchie in the divorce. he can keep all the wall art tho, i'm not a monster
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
Alfred's Gay Marriage to Miguel: Your Thoughts?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
gah and now i kind of want to start saying rti myself
this is the thing about migs that not enough people seem to get imho, he is excellent precisely because he is so often very nearly terrible
like idk if it was some italian guy popped up on a harley singing about cigarettes and john lennon and leopard print skirts u would all shrivel up and die
loving his new song 'rude' tho
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
wtf I love guys singing about cigs and Lennon and leopard print skirts
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
however I do not like cats
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
only miggy can dish out "lemme dig that out like a fossil/damn baby that ass is colossal" and still remain sexyasfuck
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 February 2015 02:49 (nine years ago) link
and Barry Goldwater
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 February 2015 03:45 (nine years ago) link
have never seen an interview/etc. with him, an even more genuinely awesome dude than I expected, would grab a beer with
― franklin, Thursday, 12 February 2015 05:57 (nine years ago) link
yah Miguel seems cool too
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 February 2015 11:48 (nine years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 February 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
wanna hang with miguel's cat
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 February 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
― r|t|c, Wednesday, February 11, 2015 5:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
he's not THAT gaslight anthem but "lana miguel rey" does have a nice ring to it
― some dude, Thursday, 12 February 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link
yo did you know Miguel has a SONOS
― Number None, Thursday, 12 February 2015 22:56 (nine years ago) link
Beery Goldwater xposts
― franklin, Friday, 13 February 2015 04:54 (nine years ago) link
OMG @ emoji cushions
― 龜, Friday, 13 February 2015 13:13 (nine years ago) link
omg his cat seems awesome
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Friday, 13 February 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link
he be like "Tell me that the pussy is mine."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 February 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
i am glad someone made that joke :)
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 February 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
Surprised it took a day
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 14 February 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
apparently the title of the album is Wild Heart, which is "popped up on a harley singing about cigarettes" as fuck
― raccoon tanuki dye dashiki nefertiti edges kinky (some dude), Sunday, 15 February 2015 13:39 (nine years ago) link
― aybaybayfan (The Reverend), Sunday, 15 February 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
just finding out that that's the name of the album turned me on... damn
― flopson, Sunday, 15 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-7nzDmC9fY
looks like coffee is the first single? but with wale.....
that cover img is doing something to me :X
― dyl, Sunday, 3 May 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
:O
― 龜, Sunday, 3 May 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
no wale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJAelCB8hdY
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 May 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
Brad I could kiss you
― 龜, Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:01 (eight years ago) link
Both excited and somewhat afraid to listen to this...
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
this song is perfect. i'm never listening to the wale version
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link
OK, if it weren't for the Wale/"Fucking"-free version, I'd be devastated that he felt the need to ruin the beautiful fragment that was last year's "Coffee." But as it stands, I may now have a new fave Miguel song.
Also, why does it look like he has the Van Halen logo tattooed under his neck in that (otherwise smouldering!) photo?
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link
i have spent entire commutes with the 'coffee' ep clip on loop tbh
just literally had to pause it now cos the feel was so intense when the bridge finally unraveled itself to me
― r|t|c, Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link
WOMAN
DO YOU KNOW WHAT U GONNA NEED BABY?
oh my god it's still going, this coda, i am dead
― r|t|c, Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link
this that real kaleidoscope dream, tumbling casanova capsule collide of jagged little thrills
peach colour moon glistens the plot thickens we laugh over shotguns and tongue kisses, kool g rap woke up with a boner today
― r|t|c, Sunday, 3 May 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
― raccoon tanuki dye dashiki nefertiti edges kinky (some dude), Sunday, 15 February 2015 13:39 Bookmark
primo misinfo dressing here as sexy red rock west rather than going for the snakeskin jacket like he posed to imo
― r|t|c, Sunday, 3 May 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link
if lmr ever claims his fave flicks arent wild at heart and true romance he a goddamn liar
love love love
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 May 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
my god that last minute or so ;_;
rtc otm x1000
― Roz, Sunday, 3 May 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
Bit nervous to know which version is going to make the album. The version without Wale is just about perfect.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 3 May 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
Maybe he'll do with-AND-without Wale versions on the album like "How Many Drinks."
I've been holding off buying the frigging GIRLS Season 2 soundtrack because I want Simple Things so much but I'm not sure if it will be on the next album.
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Monday, 4 May 2015 08:44 (eight years ago) link
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/coffee-single/id989956191
*purchases furiously*
― 龜, Monday, 4 May 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link
Idk it's good but I'm not in love with it. (The cover, otoh)
― The Reverend, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
yeah i feel the same way. there's a certain effervescence that is missing i think. i like it less than "the thrill"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 4 May 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's not the very top shelf but i want to hear how it sounds on the radio. especially because the "coffee in the morning" version >>>>> the "fucking in the morning" one.
― some dude, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
I thought "Adorn" was just OK when it appeared on the EP, so I'll wait for (and if) radio lifts this.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
It's the #Beautiful I thought people were falling in love with
― 龜, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
Love this guy, but everything he's done post-Kaleidoscope feels very one note to me
― Evan R, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
'the thrill' seems a comparison designed to arbitrarily cardinalize that song's qualities, i reject it
'use me' x 'arch & point', if anything, otoh
― r|t|c, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
if i was gonna make a favorable comparison, i would say that the layering of vocals on "coffee" reminds me of the sort of static dreaminess of "kaleidoscope dream," a song that seems slight at first but really reveals itself over time
― J0rdan S., Monday, 4 May 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
i.e. an album track?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
idg y'all
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
^^^
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
posting turns into sweet dreamssweet dreams turn into I don't get y'alls
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link
omfg that cover
omfg this full song
praise going up to miguel for making the solo version free - even aside from wale the clean version is a lot better
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link
i meant official not free
solo version is spectacular, "fucking" is terrible
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link
having a prominent curse word to conspicuously edit seems like something radio actively gravitates to these days, would be terrible if not surprising if stations opt to play "f___in' in the morning" over "coffee in the morning."
― some dude, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
Adding 'fucking' + putting Wale on both seem like total studio moves to me, the original was just called 'Coffee' after all
― 龜, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
The motorik slowburn of the arrangement (which carries over to miguel's performance) is so captivating, I think this works better for not going for the pop jugular, it just hangs there suspended and teasing.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
I might actually prefer the youtube rip to the iTunes store version, there's something Wall-of-Soundish about the final two minutes that benefits from a mussing of the edges
― 龜, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
performing at the met gala
http://i.imgur.com/cziOqPK.jpg
― gr8080, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
ok he's hot right
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
there was such an incredibly dopey song over one of the s3 episodes of Girls that i had to google it and hey, guess who it was?
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
(end credits, "Simplethings")
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
my fav part is 00.00 - 04.52 B-)
― tpp, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
The vocal overlays at 2:55 !
― 龜, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link
going through a shitty breakup at the moment and didn't think i was ready for miguel in my life but turns out i am.
― tpp, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
miguel is kind of like a cartoon version of a sexy dude while also being a really sexy dude
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:04 (eight years ago) link
that's why "Coffee" works -- the "turns into" verse mirrors what happens when after a few drinks the guy become steadily sexier (he could have also titled it "How Many Drinks").
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
I have only listened to the Pure Miguel version of this and I'm kind of scared of the other version TBH, but wow, I didn't realise how much I needed this until it was here.
This is exactly why it works? The level of metatextuality and knowingness to his performance of ~Male Sexuality~ which only serves to heighten his actual sexiness.
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:00 (eight years ago) link
haha that's all so otm
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:07 (eight years ago) link
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, May 4, 2015 11:55 AM Bookmark
f.u. I called "Adorn" right away
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:08 (eight years ago) link
You know it was a Certain ILX0r on social media getting all annoyed about the promo image and the hole in Miguel's jeans that even alerted me to the fact of this single's existence. (Which is really annoying because hot damn, that is Spotify Hipster Boyfriend's job to alert me to this kind of thing, but I think he's jealous because he thinks I fancy Miguel.) The kind of frothing "for gods sake, lad, put some pants on" reaction just made me realise that he knows exactly who his target market is, and how to hit us.
Sigh.
Salacious, salty and sweet.
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link
how the hell could anyone get annoyed at the promo image
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:39 (eight years ago) link
miguel's performance of male sexuality really magnifies how rare it is in current pop; even the boy band types don't do it like this
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:40 (eight years ago) link
To be fair, I don't think he was entirely serious!
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:58 (eight years ago) link
ha i have no idea who it was, i was off twitter
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 08:27 (eight years ago) link
I posted it on social media. I wasn't annoyed. I thought it was funny.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 09:00 (eight years ago) link
It would be nice to know when the album is actually coming out. I can't wait much longer.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link
this song reminds me of that 1975 album
― tpp, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
"miguel is kind of like a cartoon version of a sexy dude while also being a really sexy dude" Ha ha. Yes.
― Continue your brooding monologue (Re-Make/Re-Model), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
i think his look is "millenial lenny kravitz" but then i like him in spite of, not because of the facade
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link
Oh no, looking like Lenny Kravitz. What a terrible thing.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
oh come on lex: dude is a model. it ain't super compelling for me.
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
I'm not lex and also I personally feel very ummm.... "compelled" when I look at Lenny Kravitz.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
miguel's performance of male sexuality really magnifies how rare it is in current pop
It's increasingly rare to have a pop star who can actually pull it off without coming across as sleazy, creepy or just trying way too hard, you need a certain twinkle in your eye, one that comes across on record as well. Miguel definitely has it.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
whups sorry rev; sometimes i see the "end" at the end and get you two confused.
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
I don't think it's about the twinkle in his eye, quite the opposite actually bc he doesn't treat being a sexual object as a joke or corny but actually performs it v seriously, and with a suggestion that he's into it. It's not actually far from how female pop stars routinely perform sexuality - the bare flesh is pretty crucial - and to see a straight man playing what's usually designated as a female role is p great
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 20:11 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, there is knowingness, but the one thing he does not do is play it with a wink or treat it as a joke. That's the kind of presentation that straight dudes seem to need (ironic distance?) in order to partake. It's less uncomfortable I guess for them to read it as "funny"?
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
I don't mean a twinkle in the eye to mean a kind of smirking detachment, I just mean a certain... something. It's not incompatible with sincerity at all.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
I don't know how one can be a sincere or insincere sex object tbh.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
You can participate in your own objectification; I dunno what sincerity has to do with it.
Wild Heart is out June 30th.
http://www.rap-up.com/2015/05/06/miguel-announces-wildheart-release-date/
That is too far away.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 7 May 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link
i need a Miguel coffee mug in my life so bad right now
― all my hatians if u play they make u (gr8080), Thursday, 7 May 2015 13:19 (eight years ago) link
an approximation of what i'm looking for, someone help me out here:
http://i.imgur.com/04TMpkn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/F3G34Su.png
― all my hatians if u play they make u (gr8080), Thursday, 7 May 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link
*nods*
― 龜, Thursday, 7 May 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link
I know this is some rapgenius shit but I figured out that they are choosing a star to say good bye to because they are gonna stay up til they see the sun rise under bright peach skies *a thousand blushing smiley emojis*
― 龜, Thursday, 7 May 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link
The more I think about it them ore the 'fucking in the morning' version makes me angry
― 龜, Thursday, 7 May 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 May 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link
I need a Miguel in my life now.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 May 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link
they put it on Spotify with dirty, clean and Wale/non-Wale versions, thankfully
― some dude, Thursday, 7 May 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link
there's a dirty non-Wale version?
― 龜, Thursday, 7 May 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
not that i know of, sorry if my post was poorly phrased
― some dude, Thursday, 7 May 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
not that you should have any desire for more "fucking in the morning" versions tho
― some dude, Thursday, 7 May 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link
coffee in the morning is much better imo
― dyl, Thursday, 7 May 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link
first coffee, followed by fucking imo
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 May 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link
before any of those things though brush your goddamn teeth
sweet dreams turns into brushing in the morning
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 May 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
^kidzbop version
― all my hatians if u play they make u (gr8080), Thursday, 7 May 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
mouthwash turns into flossingflossing turns into waterpikwaterpik turns into saline rinsesaline rinse turns into brushing in the morninghttp://i.imgur.com/kRRmwVX.png
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 May 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link
Miguel was a surprise guest at the Prince gig in Baltimore:
from NY Times review
Miguel, who sang a modified version of the Staple Singers’ “When Will We Be Paid,” a song often interpreted as a call for reparations.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 11 May 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link
i've seen prince perform that before!
― maura, Monday, 11 May 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link
http://www.princevault.com/index.php/When_Will_We_B_Paid%3F
― curmudgeon, Monday, 11 May 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
uh hi
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a5/fb/e0/a5fbe0b355c8cc299ea35cf845ab2239.jpg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 May 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 May 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link
in the hot 100 this week
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 May 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link
and the song?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 May 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
― dyl, Friday, 15 May 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
miguel please stop watching porn with your cat
https://twitter.com/Miguel/status/599294532270817282
― katherine, Saturday, 16 May 2015 02:13 (eight years ago) link
I... can't... even...
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 16 May 2015 07:21 (eight years ago) link
i fkn died when that showed up on my instagram feed this morning
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Saturday, 16 May 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link
also "word play turns into gun play gun play turns into pillow talk etc etc etc" has been in my head almost all week
sort of feel like the first verse is just...peak miguel
― lex pretend, Monday, 18 May 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link
Need that mug gr8080!
― MikoMcha, Monday, 18 May 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
i'm saying!!
― all my hatians if u play they make u (gr8080), Monday, 18 May 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
http://www.rap-up.com/2015/05/18/miguel-wildheart-album-cover/
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 May 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link
miguel is stealing album titles from dawn now?
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Monday, 18 May 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link
excellent optical illusion
― nxd, Monday, 18 May 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link
nice to hear that "nwa" is on the album
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 10:58 (eight years ago) link
Finally we have the tracklisting.
1) “A Beautiful Exit”2) “Exit”3) “The Valley”4) “Coffee”5) “NWA” (Feat. Kurupt)6) “Waves”7) “What’s Normal Anyway”8) “Hollywood Dreams”9) “Destinado A Morir”10) “…goingtohell”11) “Flesh”12) “Leaves”13) “Face The Sun” (Feat. Lenny Kravitz)
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
ha his one rap guest spot goes to kurupt eh. i like it
― Spottie, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
no Wale *whew*
― gr8080, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
13) “Face The Sun” (Feat. Lenny Kravitz)
really
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
maybe he just plays guitar? surely he cant fuck anything up too much that way
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link
btw the miguel-assisted track on the new hudson mohawke album is v v good
i mean i'm actually kind of excited and curious about whatever the kravitz track is
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
Would prefer Miguel's guitar.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
he did a song with alicia keys and it was dope, it will be fine
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
he did a song with santana and it was dope, it will be fine
― hot doug stamper (||||||||), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
1) “A Beautiful Exit”2) “Exit”
huh
― j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
Alicia Keys is like dope.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link
A Beautiful Exit/Exit just looks like a standard intro/first song linked together type thing.
― fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
yeah, dreamy guitars and mumbling most likely
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link
pretty pleased to see no wale/j cole type dudes but jordan otm
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link
he just uploaded a tracklist pic to his instagram, instead of "Exit" there's a song called "DEAL" and the one with the spanish title isn't there (so 12 songs only)
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 11 June 2015 02:25 (eight years ago) link
ok he's just taken that down, lol
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 11 June 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link
seems to be back haha. https://instagram.com/p/3xajTAC1zd/
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 11 June 2015 02:41 (eight years ago) link
x-post-- this== Would prefer Miguel's guitar.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link
this album is amazing
― lex pretend, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link
his outros!
get out
― 龜, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link
<3 the male lana del rey vibe
― lex pretend, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link
closing two songs are SPECTACULAR
― lex pretend, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
<3 the male lana del rey vibe― lex pretend, Friday, June 12, 2015 12:27 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Friday, June 12, 2015 12:27 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm worried now.
― Greer, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link
― Spottie, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
not a sonic thing at all, more in terms of self-presentation and romantic myths
― lex pretend, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
So Pitchfork is going to describe it as sounding like he's faking an orgasm?
― MarkoP, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
i definitely do not hear lana del rey
― maura, Friday, 12 June 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
(thankfully)
imagining that you're at your ENT right now
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 June 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link
is this leaked or do y'all just have the advance?
― The Reverend, Friday, 12 June 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:41 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― fetty wap, kombucha, where to trap queen (some dude), Friday, 12 June 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link
WE CAN FACE THE SUN LET'S FALL INTO FOREVER
― lex pretend, Monday, 15 June 2015 09:36 (eight years ago) link
HOW CAN I LISTEN TO THIS?! I CANT WAIT! (Sorry about the caps lock but i can't contain myself)
― Nourry, Monday, 15 June 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I have that same feeling. It's out in two weeks but I need it right now.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link
Perhaps you will get your wish. Three more songs are out: http://www.factmag.com/2015/06/16/hear-three-new-songs-from-miguels-wildheart-album/
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:08 (eight years ago) link
aaaaaaaaa holy shit
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link
this is erotic
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link
I'm not feeling "Fresh" at all :(
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:31 (eight years ago) link
"Flesh" rather. It's like the boring parts of KD.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:32 (eight years ago) link
why are we disagreeing so hard today alfred
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
"Face the Sun" is so fucking good
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:35 (eight years ago) link
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson),
Prolonged exposure to the Donnie Trumpet album.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link
a great record, it should theoretically make our opinions chill and continuous
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link
"goingtohell" should prob be illegal, holy hell
(this is meant as the highest compliment)
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:42 (eight years ago) link
"goingtohell" describes what Migs agreed to for Kravitz to play an excellent solo. I like this one best.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link
"Flesh" is fantastic
― some dude, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 03:52 (eight years ago) link
i am surprised he let "face the sun" out pre-release! it is the perfect way to close the album. the "purple rain" nod>>>>>>
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 06:48 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z55sZ2oVY4
― Greer, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link
OK please stop with the goodies now, 2015. Reaching saturation point.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
"face the sun" ;_; It's such a typical Miguel song too, like it's so obvious and earnest that it should be come across as corny and it kind of does, but somehow you don't care because it's just so good.
also where did he learn to use his voice like that on "Flesh"? (ok, Prince but... damn.)
― Roz, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link
playing nyc on august 2
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:20 (eight years ago) link
this album is interesting. i'm not sure you can even call him an r&b singer at this point -- his last album still sort of clung to the notion that he should serve up easy singles to a core R&B audience but this one pretty much sheds that concern entirely. i feel like you can follow the thread from "do you..."/"the thrill" pretty easily to this album and though i think there might be too much grit and not enough effervescence overall, "waves" feels like a pretty nice sequel to "do you...". the production on this feels unique to me, too - it at once... sounds like stone temple pilots (...?) but also has a certain desert landscape expansiveness that is appealing.
i think this was a very honest album for him to make, and though a few times i think it gets in its own head ("the valley" most notably) there are also some flat out great songs ("waves," "leaves," "face the sun") and maybe more to chew on than kaleidoscope dream overall.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 04:54 (eight years ago) link
i'm not sure you can even call him an r&b singer at this point
foh
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 05:10 (eight years ago) link
i dunno he clearly seems himself as a rock star, not that those two things are necessarily incompatible (prince obv will always loom large over miguel's music) but there's not a lot of "all i want is you" or "sure thing" left in his music. i can see some of the album tracks from his first record as the foundation for this sorta sun-warped sound but i feel like he's deviated from the path. even the funkier, upbeat tracks on this album sound as influenced by KROK as anything.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 05:21 (eight years ago) link
Well, the boring parts of KD are bits of "Use Me" and "Where's the Fun in Forever," the bits that Chuck Eddy said were like the boring parts of Around the World in a Day. I agree he's uncomfortable with being an R&B artist. Get ready for people who Don't Listen to R&B But Like Miguel to be louder this time -- if the album generates any buzz (it may not).
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:02 (eight years ago) link
"Use Me" is perfect tho
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:36 (eight years ago) link
^
― 龜, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link
there's not a moment that he's not a soulful belter at heart, though. someone like Frank Ocean, his vocal style is much further removed from that tradition, the 'not an R&B singer' stuff is still pretentious but less of a reach.
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 12:03 (eight years ago) link
feel like there's a dawn richard analogue here, in terms of closeness to r&b then wildheart : blackheart :: kaleidoscope dream : goldenheart
in one sense yes they're exploring wilder shores or whatever but a) both dawn and miguel are soul singers at heart, and b) they're both within a pretty strong lineage of r&b artists exploring rock and electronica respectively. i mean miguel straight-up interpolates "purple rain" in "face the sun" just to make the connection obvious (what a glorious moment, too)
it's fair to say that neither are interested in getting radio play in any genre, i guess, though in both cases it feels more like radio isn't ready for them than they've made hookless or difficult music
agree with j0rdan that the production here is very dirty indeed, i would like to hear it on headphones/not a stream before i make up my mind re: that, but the murk is reminiscent of d'angelo's last album in places
"the valley" is sampling something massively obvious and i haven't put my finger on it grrr
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 12:09 (eight years ago) link
Miguel is one of the most played acts on R&B radio the last 5 years, it seems probably unlikely that he's not interested in getting radio play, that doesn't just happen by accident
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 12:49 (eight years ago) link
I'm listening to "NWA" now and trying to figure this claim out: "this album is interesting. i'm not sure you can even call him an r&b singer at this point"
cuz this is an R&B song
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:23 (eight years ago) link
also much love to kurupt for dropping the first "Lee Iacocca" reference in like 25 years XD
i wouldn't say he's disinterested in radio play but there's a noticeable lack of a "how many drinks"-style "well lemme make sure i have a surefire reliable single in my back pocket" on this album
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link
Not heard this album really but "R&B" can encapsulate a hell of a lot and forays into stadium rock are definitely part of that.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link
Like at this point in history I would *much* rather hear R&B artists exploring rock music than the other way round.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link
who will be the Eddie Van Halen on Miguel's "Beat It"?
.....Bonnamassa
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link
Hearing a lot more obvious nods to Prince on some of these, especially with the more guitar-centric arrangements and production. Feels like it was supposed to be Prince soloing on "Face The Sun" especially, but he proved to difficult to get and so he settled for...Lenny Kravitz. Or maybe he just loves Lenny Kravitz.
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:11 (eight years ago) link
I agree he's uncomfortable with being an R&B artist
it's fair to say that neither are interested in getting radio play in any genre
A lot of assumptions being made about R&B as a genre and R&B listeners in these comments. Only heard half the album, but nothing in that feels far enough outside the lineage of R&B to justify these statements.
― Greer, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
speaking of this record pairs nicely with the new daniel johns which is better than it should be
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link
Gonna get shit for saying this, but I get shit on ILX no matter what, so...
After all the talk above about how he objectifies himself and how refreshing that is etc. etc.
Are we really OK, in 2015, with faceless black women used as a piece of furniture?
I know he's trying to go for "80s hair metal rock star" or whatever, but couldn't "naked faceless women as furniture" be a trope left in the 80s?
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link
I have not heard this Daniel Johns record, but object strongly to any reference to him in the Miguel thread.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
not if brad is repping for it
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
Please look at (very) many r&b/funk covers from the late 60s/all through the 70s. Maybe it's a trope, but it's not hijacked from hair metal.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link
Grace Jones often made herself a semi-nude faceless woman as furniture.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link
Do I really have to explain to you that there's a vast conceptual difference between presenting yourself as an object, and using someone else as an object?
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
we could ask the author of "Use Me."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link
this is a guy whose last album included a track called "pussy is mine" (admittedly the worst cut on the album), don't think there's too much argument that he is not exactly a shining spotlight of progressivism
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link
lol it's funny to me how often people misread that song
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link
that song is not about possession but instead entirely about male inadequacy
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
what, you mean that he's not claiming ownership but is basically broadcasting his insecurity? i get it, it's still a dopey track.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link
xp obv
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link
anyway, you want to make a case for a feminist reading of miguel's lyric sheet/iconography jordan, go for it.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link
give me pound give me pound give me euro give me yen
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
i don't know if i would say that his lyrics are feminist, but there are certainly feminist sentiments, or at least a number of instances in which the woman is presented as holding the power outside of the context of objectivity. i think in the context of mainstream male pop music his music is more feminist than most.
i certainly think his portrayal of sex from a male perspective is progressive, as alfred noted in referencing "use me"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link
and we've spent the last month gawking at album art in which he positions himself as an available object of desire. This doesn't mitigate any legit complaints about his songs and imagery, though; understanding him is complicated.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
if you're arguing that comparatively his work is less explicitly sexist than most charting r&b, mmmmmaybe? like imo he's obv more progressive than usher but maybe not notably more so than ne-yo (storytime aside)
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link
"I don't mind" is more explicitly feminist than anything Miguel has ever done
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
this is a good conversation
― Evan R, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
my thoughts on other things recently mentioned itt are conflicted/underdeveloped/dumb and not worth mentioning, but
"pussy is mine" (admittedly the worst cut on the album)
this is not true
― dyl, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
pussy is mine is dope
― tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
what track on kaleidoscope dream do you like less than PiM
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
pussy is mine is dope AND the worst cut on the album
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link
yeah fair point
― tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link
was looking at tracklist on wiki to see if i really believe that and ran into
Alfred Soto of The Quietus was pleasantly surprised by "the range of sonic ideas, fully realized songs, and prodigious vocal talent" by Miguel after a "tentative" debut and commented that he "articulates how a love man can be louche without being a douche."[23]
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
louche douche truths
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link
and hey i didn't even notice until just now but going to hell / flesh / hollywood dreams / nwa / face the sun are now up on spotify:http://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/25ZKsgl9VGDh756EgyINIg/pvmic
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:37 Bookmark
lol clearly it is not
'i don't mind' is an assertion of power thru ostentatiously demonstrating its easy relinquishment; it's more affectionate but ultimately cut from similar cloth to the ~playful~ backhanded empowerment some claimed of the blurred lines video
miguel otoh always deploys his supposedly/ostensibly dogeared cliches with a laser focused attentiveness, calculated degrees of signalled sleaze in aid of a carnality born of genuine mutuality; he plays sub and dom so well because he so appreciates the rules, the balance; absolutely he is a feminist
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu),
*bows* MY solo album.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
miguel otoh always deploys his supposedly/ostensibly dogeared cliches with a laser focused attentiveness, calculated degrees of signalled sleaze in aid of a carnality born of genuine mutuality
This sounds right. Above all the guys in his songs are so into pleasure as a principle that they're willing to be courtly and have manners about it.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
'candles in the sun' is so obv the worst kd kut come on
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link
whereas The Weeknd casts a withering glare on the women he fucks; uses his self-loathing, which is really loathing of any women who would yield to him, as a come-on; and hates himself and her for it. But don't worry -- she's earned it. Repeat cycle.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:02 Bookmark
otm btw
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
candles in the sun is loose and a bit boring; pussy is mine is a hear-it-once-then-dispose demo tbh i generally stop after arch and point so i'm not gonna argue too vehemently
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link
I generally stop after "Arch N Point" -- what a way to go.
"Candles in the Sun" is the weakest track. Wish he'd subbed it with "...All."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
havent heard this yet because 4ever unsullied obv but it already seems clear to me that j0rd's take repeats his earlier privileging of the idea of effervescence as not something subjectively preferential but essential to migs persona heretofore, and worse tries to grace the point by disingenously equating that efferv (i cannot write this word out again sorry) with r&b as a whole, vs a deeper/heavier/scuzzier/other-er rock. i don't agree with this reading, it just seems cosmetic. u wouldnt hear it for maxwell or d'angelo
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
I like Candles in the Sun but it doesn't feel like a good album closer. I didn't actually realise it was the album closer until I got the vinyl. All works way better.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link
i seem to be the only person who thinks "candles in the sun" is great
just love his delivery on it
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 June 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link
it's a great song!
― 龜, Thursday, 18 June 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link
I love the Art Dealer Chic "Candles," mostly only enjoy the album version as a reminder of it
― some dude, Thursday, 18 June 2015 00:56 (eight years ago) link
yeah the album version of "candles in the sun" is a throwaway
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:21 (eight years ago) link
Hi just popping in here to note I'm currently watching an S&M-themed striptease to "Teach Me"
― The Reverend, Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link
― r|t|c, Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Gonna have a few more drinks then read this post again.
― Tim F, Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:27 (eight years ago) link
miguel covered slaves :(
― 龜, Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=145&v=Cyg7mg-ac8U
― vmajestic, Thursday, 18 June 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2015/06/22/415459282/first-listen-miguel-wildheart
*pours glass of wine*
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2015 04:47 (eight years ago) link
this doin' things to me
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2015 05:00 (eight years ago) link
*heavy breathing*
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Monday, 22 June 2015 05:00 (eight years ago) link
♫ i wanna FUCK like we're filming in the VALLEY ♫
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2015 05:03 (eight years ago) link
christ, "waves"
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Monday, 22 June 2015 05:13 (eight years ago) link
"leaves"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 22 June 2015 05:34 (eight years ago) link
califorrrrrrniaaa
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2015 11:42 (eight years ago) link
california -> face the sun woooooow
― 龜, Monday, 22 June 2015 12:52 (eight years ago) link
I've loved pretty much everything this guy has done and I'm still shocked by how great this is
― Evan R, Monday, 22 June 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link
waves
fuckin hell Miggy ur doin it
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
Waves
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link
Hollywood Dreams too, goddamn
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
― example (crüt), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link
after a night w/this am gonna need coffee in the morning
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link
i never much listened for miguel after his first eps cuz i didn't dig them much, but man this is so great already
― j., Tuesday, 23 June 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
so many feels. 'the valley', 'flesh', 'waves' and 'hollywood dreams' are so so so great. also, i really enjoy listening him singing in spanish.
― Nourry, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
Sounded fucking great on my commute this morning. Also I think I will be obsessed with "Face the Sun" forever
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link
i have so many feels about california, state of, now but i've barely ever even been there
― j., Tuesday, 23 June 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link
goodness "the valley" is astonishing
― dyl, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
"Deal" is giving me runway fashion show, supermodels stomping it out to that beat YESS
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link
i am so addicted to the way he phrases "turns into coffee in the morning"
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link
I've been humming it for six months.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link
so pretty
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link
i sing it literally every morning because i drink coffee in the morning
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link
also wait what the fuck the official stream isn't available in the UK and my promo stream has EXPIRED -_-
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link
I took care of you, lex
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link
i seem not to have posted itt after his show last week, it was fucking amazing and he sang "no type" and he plays archetypes so well and with just the right amount of self-awareness and the combination of his highest sweetest falsetto and dirty grimy guitar is something i could listen to forever and "leaves", with the guitar turned up, made me think of "summer of 69", which it hasn't on record
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
― j., Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:02 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
as the official california correspondent of ILX, i can confirm that WILDHEART represents california very well
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link
makes me want to rollerskate down venice beach in satin hotpants
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link
i think of WILDHEART as caressing your bae in the backseat of an old convertible while gazing at the stars after aimlessly driving around LA; also psychedelic drugs are involved
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link
Most of these singles on Spotify would benefit from a verse by Pitbull.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link
ew
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:04 (eight years ago) link
what the fuck
― j. winters (josh), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:11 (eight years ago) link
*points to door* OUT
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:28 (eight years ago) link
I'm just saying it could be better.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:47 (eight years ago) link
you could be better
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:48 (eight years ago) link
luckily there is a remedy, it is this record
― j., Wednesday, 24 June 2015 03:52 (eight years ago) link
i kinda love pitbull but no
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 05:25 (eight years ago) link
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
think you mean wale buddy
― 龜, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 12:35 (eight years ago) link
leave pitbull alone
― nose, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link
ok whoa @ "leaves"
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link
who's got a publicist contact for the man
― alpine static, Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link
(London tickets on sale as of an hour ago for Brixton Academy in October, by the way...)
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 26 June 2015 10:04 (eight years ago) link
bonus tracks are great/weird
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 26 June 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link
wait there are bonus tracks
― j., Friday, 26 June 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link
full length "destinado", "simple things," "gfg" (stands for "good fucking girl" and is mostly a weird digressive landscape), and a great great great song called "damned"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 26 June 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
wait "destinado a morir" was on the main track listing of the promo before "hollywood dreams" iirc
― lex pretend, Friday, 26 June 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link
yeah as a 1:30 interlude.
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 26 June 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
I have to say that a lot of this album sounds like "weird digressive landscapes."
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Friday, 26 June 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link
Not really. Only "The Valley" and "Flesh" get too dense.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 June 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
I should add that it is still very early in my relationship with the album (well, obviously), so I'm hoping/expecting it to come into focus for me later, but my initial impression was still kind of, "ok, but where are the *songs*?"
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Friday, 26 June 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link
("Coffee" very much excepted, of course. Song of the Year so far, for me.)
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Friday, 26 June 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link
"flesh" is dope imo
― J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
wait till you get to the last two songs, crypto
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 June 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
"flesh" is sooo good
there are so many *songs* here, consider for instance "waves" and "hollywood dreams"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 26 June 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
the songs are masterpieces of deceptively casual understatement and pacing, i've only had this 5 days and i've already played it like 20 times
― j., Friday, 26 June 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
coffee in the morningcoffee in the morningcoffee in the morningcoffee in the morning
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 June 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
The second half of "waves" is exhilarating. Paid this dust in the wake of CRJ but am excited to return to it this weekend.
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link
yes...I...paid this dust...as well...you know me...always paying dust...
― some dude, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:48 (eight years ago) link
http://lepoissonrouge.com/lpr_events/first-listen-live-miguel-june-30th-2015/
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 June 2015 05:40 (eight years ago) link
this is the best album ever
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link
if you mean the best album made by Miguel since 2013, then sure
― some dude, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
lol when i'm listening to it it feels like the best thing in the world, so much depth and color
i tentatively think it's better than kaleidoscope dream
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
Only on my first play and some of it sounds a bit laboured in the way that Kaleidoscope Dream never did, but Hollywood Dreams and NWA really stood out.
Haha okay I just got to the second half of Leaves and I *really* wasn't expecting it to turn into 1979 by the Smashing Pumpkins.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
ugh http://www.npr.org/event/music/416451780/first-listen-live-watch-miguel-perform-wildheart-in-concert-on-june-30
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link
Flesh really reminds me of parts of the last Beyonce album, it's a so-so piece of songwriting but consistently engaging because of the *performance*, particularly Miguel's willingness to explore as many facets of his voice as possible (fragile falsetto, lascivious growl, full-throated Marvin swoop, stadium rock holler, overlapping clouds of mini-Migs). It's astonishing.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 08:10 (eight years ago) link
this is v good
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link
lol finally hearing "1979" in "leaves"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link
Although I liked the P-Fork review, this constant pairing of Miguel and Frank Ocean is so tiresome.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
Maybe I'm just being really uncharitable in my reading of that review, but to me it came off as "Miguel's high-concept experimenting is here to save us from all that loathsome R&B" in some places.
― Greer, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
A good review though otherwise. I particularly enjoyed the explanation of what makes Miguel's sexual come-ons seem so much less gross/more tolerable than his counterparts.
― Greer, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link
It's true that Migs mitigates his aggression with a gosh-darn cuteness, but I don't get how this review and Caramanica's the other day assert that the "divide" in Miguel's "soul" is any different from Usher, MJ, Marvin Gaye, or whatever.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
market positioning
― maura, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link
the show last night was incredible, btw.
― maura, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
reading reviews of this record has reminded me of why i dislike references to other artists and albums in music criticism; a lot of times they show off the limitations of the writers' knowledge base when the opposite is probably intended.
― maura, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
i'm gonna need more time with this; first listen or two is not demolishing me. same was true for much of kaleidoscope tho', so maybe it's just exposure. coffee is a likely top ten single tho'.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
Finally, someone else who isn't immediately blown away by this. Only difference is that I seem to remember liking all of Kaleidoscope Dream pretty much instantly.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
bonus tracks are pretty dece! like, easily worthy of inclusion & not all all throwaway like i was half-expecting
cannot stop listening to coffee though
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link
I wasn't blown away by it at first either. Few albums do.
I stopped listening to "Coffee" because if I hadn't it's all I'd be listening to.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
it doesn't really work for me until "The Valley"; after that it's terrific
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
tbf, i'm spinning between this and several other albums simultaneously; shouldn't opine until i have some focused listening time most likely
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
some of this is very good, though the rock touches on the opener turn me off a lot and almost made me stop listening tbh
― marcos, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
i've only heard the first third so far, so reserving judgment
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
not much new to add: I don't love this yet ("Coffee" aside) but I may well get there eventually.
When he sings/says "Santa Monica Boulevard" at the end of "Hollywood Dreams" I always think of Sheryl Crow.
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I think the first three tracks taken together are fairly deal isn't bad but the arrangement feels flimsy, whereas the others feel simultaneously sluggish and weedy.
Really takes off from Coffee onwards, mind.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 22:29 (eight years ago) link
this tweet may be the key to unlocking for fence sitters https://twitter.com/ietyler/status/616298059350151168
― 龜, Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link
Tyler Adams @ietyler 7h7 hours ago
I shouldn't be reading music reviews anyway but people frame "All I Want Is You" as a "lukewarm" or inconsistent album and that's incorrect.
^^ otm
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link
IAWIY is probably still the best R&B album of the decade imho unless i'm forgetting something obvious. DDM you could call R&B i guess.
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's a masterpiece
― flopson, Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link
hard to imagine growing to love any of the first three tracks... here's hoping
― flopson, Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
i purposely avoided gorging myself on "coffee" when it came out so i could preserve my appreciation for the album context. what a song. "old souls have found a new religion"
― flopson, Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link
haha waves is awesome
― flopson, Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link
yeah i kind of don't get this revisionist history about all i want is you being a commercial sop of some sort. is it because of j. cole?
― maura, Thursday, 2 July 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link
tbh i think that narrative is 1/2 people who slept on "Sure Thing" etc and 1/2 Miguel himself downplaying the debut when promoting Kaleidoscope Dream
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 04:32 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKvhkcJDbzY
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Thursday, 2 July 2015 04:43 (eight years ago) link
I like the new album and the last one a lot but the fact remains that several years ago miguel sang a lto of off-key hooks on terrible songs
"Lotus Flower Bomb" is the only bad one and even that is mainly bad because of Wale
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 04:51 (eight years ago) link
quickie is bad too, even sure thing isn't great
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:22 (eight years ago) link
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/39/f6/6f/39f66f7fc4f3f83f716b782e350f160d.jpg
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:34 (eight years ago) link
pffffft
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:04 (eight years ago) link
also "sure thing" is incredible obv
you can bet that
the first time i remember really noticing miguel was bc of the chord progression in "girls like you" which is really weird and awesome imo... and i feel like the next two records build off of that weirdness and awesomeness
anyway i'm also here to say "a beautiful exit" is gorgeous
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:07 (eight years ago) link
i think the opening tracks set a real mood, "beautiful exit" being this kind of blurry nebula, "deal" being a kind of funky "let's work"-y exercise that also shapeshifts a lot, and "the valley" being the filthiest thing on earth, you kind of go through the extremes of the record before you hit the rest of the record
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link
I like "The Valley" but rhyming "valley"with "valley" doesn't help (pronunciation of the first "valley" in that couplet is a hook though)
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:20 (eight years ago) link
"The Valley" has a bit of a Trent Reznor vibe for me.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:50 (eight years ago) link
Yah
― Spottie, Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:53 (eight years ago) link
I like "The Valley" but rhyming "valley"with "valley" doesn't help
Everybody rapping like it's a commercial / Acting like life is a big commercial
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 2 July 2015 08:34 (eight years ago) link
opening three are brilliant imo, they really set the tone for the album's sordid glamour. i think of "deal" and "the valley" like roleplay, the push-pull between sex and politics and money and entertainment and the way these seedy archetypes are romanticised. and the closing stretch acts like its obverse, out of the roleplay into something completely bare and pure
"leaves" is the best song he has ever done y/y
― lex pretend, Thursday, 2 July 2015 09:27 (eight years ago) link
(i've never heard a smashing pumpkins song so don't @ me)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 2 July 2015 09:28 (eight years ago) link
Get ready for people who Don't Listen to R&B But Like Miguel to be louder this time
Okay, that's pretty much me right there, tbh. But this is much less appealing than Kaleidoscope Dream (a rare 2012 release I actually spent proper money on) after several listens. Plenty of these reflexive "Wait, couldn't this be more conspicuously R&B-ish please?" reactions.
― Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 2 July 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link
"Coffee" is the rare moment on an album suffused with dread. Even "chase the sun" makes love sound terrifying (which it is).
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 11:10 (eight years ago) link
chase = face obv
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 11:11 (eight years ago) link
yes. There are a lot of references to death, dying, the end, etc
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 2 July 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link
apparently the epigraph for the first video tie-in is 'find what you love and let it kill you,' which is the opening line of his chemical brothers collab
― maura, Thursday, 2 July 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link
also vh1 soul is showing a miguel soul story that includes 'lotus flower bomb' and 'primetime' but leaves out '#beautiful'
― maura, Thursday, 2 July 2015 13:02 (eight years ago) link
Only now noticing that the hashtag is actually part of the song name. #observant
― Hikikomori Povich (tsrobodo), Thursday, 2 July 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link
lex otm. also the "1979" connection enhances "leaves" imo lol
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:22 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark
man "quickie" is so fucking good. he closed the npr show out with it and it sounded so nice.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
as an ex maniac fan of smashing pumpkins, weirdly i appreciate this connection.
― Nourry, Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link
same obv
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
Yes to "Quickie" and "Sure thing"; and "1979" is one of the few Smashing Pumpkins songs I like
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link
"Sure Thing" was so simple and brief that it blew me in 2011. I put it in my top ten. I can hear -- but not accept -- how it might sound underfed now.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
blew me = I wish. Blew me away.
listening to this album imaging miguel under the influence of 90's alt rock is wigging me out
― Heez, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
is it migging you out
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
god "...goingtohell" is the best
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
The songwriting on All I Want Is You is pretty underrated compared to KD but I feel like he just took this big jump forward as a singer (both his voice and his phrasing) between the first and second albums. I listened to Sure Thing again today and it's amazing, but when he sings "just put your pretty little hand in mine" he still has that pinched, slightly nasal thing you hear with lesser R&B singers. Fast forward to Adorn and he really SINGS those high notes, like his throat is wide open, his technique is way better.
Listened to the new one again and I think my main problem is just that A Beautiful Exit is a really disappointing opener compared to his first two albums. It's actually a good song but the production and arrangement choices kill it for me, virtually anything would accompany it better than that lumpen guitar hook. Also, I was all ready to laugh at the NIN comparison but actually the way he sings "I want to fuck like we're filming in the valley" is pure Reznor (a way sweeter Reznor, but there's something there definitely).
Kaleidoscope Dream really felt like Miggy exploring the space between Marvin and Stevie and late 60s/early 70s psych and modernising it in the process. The rock influences here are different, both feel like California albums, but it's like he's exploring the West Coast music of a decade or two later. Prince is ever-present in the background, but it's a different Prince (and Miguel very rarely actually sounds like Prince).
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
This album is closer to Neil Young and Mamas and Papas imo
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link
Listened to the new one again and I think my main problem is just that A Beautiful Exit is a really disappointing opener compared to his first two albums. It's actually a good song but the production and arrangement choices kill it for me, virtually anything would accompany it better than that lumpen guitar hook.
yea this is very much how i feel about the opener
― marcos, Thursday, 2 July 2015 20:03 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I'm not saying it's saturated in 90s rock references by any means (and they could be entirely unintentional) but it feels like a more expansive record than KD - a lot of these songs feel like *driving music* in a way that the last album didn't really.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 July 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link
I think we'd be disappointed in any opener not "Adorn."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
he did "girls like you" at the npr show in the style of an anthemic rock song and i thought it sounded better than the album version
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 July 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link
"what's normal anyway" reminds me of this neglected little thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxhC094nFew
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
maybe I'm going overboard with 90s-hunting but the second half of "Face the Sun" gives me strong "Where Is My Mind" vibes
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Friday, 3 July 2015 01:07 (eight years ago) link
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:22 AM (20 hours ago)
um, what
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Friday, 3 July 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
It gives me strong Purple Rain vibes tbh but I don't think you need to strain too hard for 90s rock echoes on a song with LENNY KRAVITZ on it.
The album in general feels more 80s than 90s to me, there's some big anthemic pop-rock sound that the faster, more top-down songs remind me of a bit, it's not Don Henley but it's something not far off.
NWA makes a really good companion to #HoodLove by Jazmine Sullivan btw. The whole stretch from Coffee through to Face The Sun is virtually flawless. The weather is helping.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 July 2015 07:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's an amazing sticky summer evening album
is "the valley" beat really not a sample? it sounds so familiar but maybe it's just Generic Dubstep Growl
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 08:54 (eight years ago) link
Album reminds me of Iggy Pop's "Candy".
― Tim F, Friday, 3 July 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link
well especially when he starts literally singing "purple rain", perfect interpolation at perfect moment
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 09:07 (eight years ago) link
enjoying this record a lot
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 3 July 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link
this feels like more of an 'album' than the other two i love it so much fuiud
― 龜, Friday, 3 July 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link
not here to hate on the debut but it was v much "solid collection of songs overshadowed by the 10/10 classic single" where the next two have been incredible and fully realised pieces of work
thinking about the contrast between this and KD, KD's overall vibe was sort of floating, drifting, on cloud nine emotionally and in this bubble of romance; wildheart is all dirt and grit and roughness and stuff that pushes you rather than makes you swoon
― lex pretend, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
"coffee" in fact feels like the outlier in this respect (an amazing outlier tho)
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
If Kaleidoscope Dream was Oracle then Wildheart is Odessey.
― geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
Percussion on damned is wow
― 龜, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
The whole album is Sebadoh (with sex)!
― pophatte (admrl), Friday, 3 July 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link
Miguel made the same song w leaves and face the sun and put them one right after the other and it's still great and amazing
― 龜, Friday, 3 July 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link
Re: the 90s, the guitars on "A Beautiful Exit" kind of sound like "Souvlaki Space Station" rewritten to soundtrack the opening of Altman's "Short Cuts" or better yet Bigelow's "Strange Days."
― geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
And "the valley" reminds of "Closer" mainly in the way that I can imagine having seen the real cool video with the "fuck" bleeped out and then getting the album home and hearing it uncensored for the first time. Like, I can imagine it so vividly, it's a mere technicality it didn't actually happen that way.
― geoffreyess, Friday, 3 July 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link
Haha
― Tim F, Friday, 3 July 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link
"Waves" sounds like "Electric Feel".
― The Reverend, Saturday, 4 July 2015 08:58 (eight years ago) link
It's worth remembering that "Sure Thing" was recorded in like 2007 or so. (It's was the song on his demo that got him signed, then his label sat on him for a couple years.) Something like "Teach Me" is a lot closer to his current phrasing.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 4 July 2015 09:27 (eight years ago) link
i learned that he was originally signed as a songwriter more or less and "sure thing" was specifically earmarked for usher
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 July 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link
pretty obsessed with "Leaves"-> "Face the Sun"
I am a dummy on "production" but these two songs do this thing where they build up layer by layer steadily over the song, until the climax is a wall of sound. though if you're listening carefully the sound is good enough to hear the different layers individually. like you're listening to a pyramid, a three dimensional object, being built. this is particularly true of "Face the Sun". I don't know enough to say what lineage that sound has: it's very complex, layers of counterpoint building, more and more tracks coming in. I dunno, maybe I think of like Be Here Now? Miguel gets pretty shouty on these songs, well and elsewhere on the album. maybe it's a kinda cokey sound? this is no shade: I am just listening to those two on repeat, with "Waves" once in a while, which is a more linear groove. I dunno, I'm hearing something that's probably really easy for the rest of you to classify etc but for me it's pretty striking.
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 4 July 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
I've been thinking this too.
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:25 (eight years ago) link
'electric feel' reminds me of los angeles hotel lobbies, so the connection makes sense
― maura, Sunday, 5 July 2015 07:06 (eight years ago) link
i could wipe you down right now babylet me ride that wave right now baby
― 龜, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link
The first verse on Coffee is horrible. I don't think I can deal with this dude right bow.
― longneck, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
uh
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
hm peach color moon glistens the plot thickens
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link
I'm always rapping "I don't give a cottonpickin' fuck about a brother tryin' to size a nigga up/I hold my oowwwwn" after that line.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
i talked about this before upthread i think but it's such a romantic line to me that he's asking his lover to pick a star in the sky to say goodbye to bc they both got up to watch the sunrise and the stars are slowly giving way to the peach color sky
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link
they also need coffee because, uh, they both stayed up all night fucking each other
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
no they didn't! gunplay turns into pillow talk pillow talk turns into sweet dreams
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
tru :)
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
and he's having coffee on his own right? she's still asleep and he doesn't want to wake her up. it's a moment of contemplation and clarity about the night before
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
I got the impression that he's alone or in the other room or wahtever. The song works because it summons the anticipation of a possible fuck and evokes the bliss state of the next morning. Not many songs do both.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
Remember the explicit version, you guys
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
yeah the best thing about that song and miguel in general - and what the remix got so disastrously wrong - is that he gets why fucking is amazing, and also why the non-fucking bits of the night or the relationship are amazing as well
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
Since when is "We talk street art and sarcasm/ crass humor and high fashion/ bubble bath, truth or dare/ and would you rather / a cold flame, the thrill of no shame/ drugs, sex, and polaroids" a good lyric? These people are scum.
― longneck, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
...
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 July 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link
bubble baths reduce or prevent scum iirc
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 July 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link
that's a great lyric u philistine
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 6 July 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link
this is how conversations that may lead to sex usually go?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link
only skimmed through this new album so could be totally wrong of course but as with the last album, miguel is one of my favourite singers of anyone right now, but lyric-wise, he is often just ridiculous/moronic/vacuous/just plain nonsensical and confused. that pitchfork interview also left me no wiser. i cant tell if he occasionally likes to make himself sound more bro-like than he actually is, or maybe he really just is, which is maybe worse (its also just an awkward fit with his free spirit sort of image). but what a singer. might be alone in this but the way he projects his voice makes me think of jeff buckley a lot (use me from the last album was also very jeff buckley to me).
― StillAdvance, Monday, 6 July 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
http://thedailyloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/gunplay3.jpghttp://https%3A//whatson.bfi.org.uk/ArticleMedia/Images/WhatsOn%20images/December%202012/Doris%20Day/pillow_talk_01.jpghttp://www.drfunkenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/eurythmics.jpghttp://www.aliceinnappyland.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/pam-grier.jpg
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 July 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link
ah well, insert this between gunplay and annie:http://40.media.tumblr.com/a535d8efa524d62e56f153bb55c260bd/tumblr_mroohav7Is1ro21o5o1_500.jpg
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 July 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link
are "Adorn," "Arch n Point," "what's normal anyway," "face the sun," and "Sure Thing" moronic?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
I don't mind nonsensical! Sex is nonsensical.
fyi i think the album version of coffee has 'fucking in the morning' in the last 30 second outro
also i think the version of the coffee single i bought is no longer on itunes?? lol (it's clean and also doesn't have wale)
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
thrilled that i apparently have a #rare #coffee
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link
#beautiful!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link
you're right. I wondered why that was marked as Explicit
― rob, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link
actually there's a clean version of wildheart up on itunes too so you can probably just get it that way
― 龜, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
might be alone in this but the way he projects his voice makes me think of jeff buckley a lot (use me from the last album was also very jeff buckley to me).
i immediately compared "flesh" to jeff buckley
i like his lyrics generally though. his bro-like aspects are v californian, but they're more place than personality, and/or the two are inextricable
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 03:00 (eight years ago) link
anyway he often gets very precise details of dating/relationships/sex completely right in a kind of earnest dorky and charming way, this is everything i like about miguel
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 08:22 (eight years ago) link
is miguel going to be like the male fka twigs? 'he gets sex EXACTLY right'
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 09:19 (eight years ago) link
My only problem with that first verse of "Coffee" is it feels like a retread of "Do You" ("rock paper scissors WAIT best out of three" etc).
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link
yeah it always totally reminded me of that too. i like both a lot tho.
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 02:44 (eight years ago) link
I have just learned from twitter that there are a lot of people who have it in for Miguel and I'm just like
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGTUOlXU8AA8iQp.jpg
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 05:58 (eight years ago) link
lol rad times indeed
https://twitter.com/Miguel/status/618555102714970112
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 06:28 (eight years ago) link
The only lyrical thing that bums me out on the album is Kurupt's verse on NWA, because he makes 'hyenas' sound like 'anus' twice, and um Lee Iacocca
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 09:32 (eight years ago) link
ha, I just figured out what the guitar on "goingtohell" reminds me of: "Sara Smile"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 09:54 (eight years ago) link
― The Reverend, Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:58 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah my TL has not been as awash in miguel praise/thirst as i would have thought
― 龜, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 11:38 (eight years ago) link
he's not as good as Frank Ocean, c'mon
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 11:42 (eight years ago) link
I didn't know Frank Ocean had stans like that
― Hikikomori Povich (tsrobodo), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 12:18 (eight years ago) link
you have no idea
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link
Channel Orange sold about twice as much as Kaleidoscope Dream. Miguel is on the radio more but Frank has more diehards.
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 13:44 (eight years ago) link
and a percentage of those Ocean fans revere him because he's admitted to same sex feelings thus is a hero and different from other R&B artists.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link
It's such a boring and arbitrary "feud" since I wouldn't even imagine either of them occupying the same lane musically. It's like comparing Trey Songz to The Weeknd.
― Greer, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link
this feud is infuriatingly reductive and everyone blaming miguel for stoking it should have an issue with the reporter who asked the question in the first place
― maura, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
(also i find frank ocean's thing pretty snoozy tbh.)
but like why does the media have to set up a FITE between two artists of color who are defying boundaries? it's almost as if their minds are B L O W N by the idea that two non-cishet white bros can balance artistic and commercial success without canceling each other out!
(also as meaghan garvey pointed out this whole thing leaves out dawn richard, who is also on their level, but maybe these unimaginative writers can only engage in one othering act at a time)
― maura, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, way too many outlets reporting on this feud whose R&B music coverage is otherwise lacking or nonexistent.
― Greer, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link
i am glad my reading doesn't take me to any place where such a "feud" is happening
dawn put out a better album than either of these guys tbh
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu)
Well, and once again, it doesn't occur to critics that they can compare male artists to female ones.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
Despite numerous efforts and liking a few songs on various EPs of hers, I still find Dawn largely impenetrable, but agree with the sentiment that there's plenty of other interesting things going on in the genre that don't get talked about whole folks bicker back and forth about Miguel versus Frank.
― Greer, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
But maybe this is all more suited to the general R&B thread.
― Greer, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
after "what's normal anyway" this album is perfect
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
to me the big separator b/w this and KD is that KD kinda loses its plot halfway through. the songs individually are pretty good but there's nothing really unifying them, and the album kinda just peters out
this one ends so strongly that when i'm done w/ it i'm just like "damn"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link
I like the quiet no frills opener but "DEAL" and "The Valley" are still slogs. "NWA" is OK. The rest is gravy. "face the sun" makes me feel happy all over.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
yeah i'd agree with that - i relistened to KD the other day and had completely forgotten how front-loaded it is (but, as you say, not because the songs in the back half are bad per se)
"what's normal anyway" seems anomalous but i'm thinking it might be the heart of the album in some ways? if the first half of the album is the roleplay to the back half's pure feeling (obv only in a rough sense, not song-by-song accurate)
xp
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
I was surprised to learn that "what's normal anyway" wasn't a solo composition.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
damn i hadn't even looked at the credits yet -- are the wikipedia ones right? benny blanco & cashmere cat worked on "...goingtohell" ??? so random
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link
also, "flesh" is miguel, raphael saadiq and.... jai paul's brother?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link
The Thrill -> How Many Drinks -> Where's The Fun -> Arch & Point flows perfectly, I have no truck with this historical revisionism. Especially given there have been literally hundreds of more brazenly front loaded albums in recent years.
It does look worse up against the near flawless back half of the new one, admittedly, but I still rate KD slightly higher overall.
Is Miguel trying to tell us something on What's Normal Anyway?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
Wiki credits are wrong.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
Jai Paul's bro is on Flesh though right
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link
― maura, Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:11 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, Miguel and Frank happened to be in the same room for the first time in 2 years the day the interview took place, maybe the writer would've pushed that angle if that wasn't the case but we'll never know. and while i prefer Miguel musically, he really just has never taken the high road in this stuff. he actually said that Frank coming out “could have been a marketing ploy" in a radio interview, the whole subject of FO just seems to make him talk like a jackass.
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
him making a point of being all "I want people to know who I am and that I love women!" when announcing this album reads a bit differently to me now
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/rC7Ox4z.jpg
― 龜, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link
oh come onnnnn
― maura, Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link
liking this album a lot more since I deleted "The Valley" and "gfg"
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Thursday, 9 July 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link
i mean, this is something Miguel has been asked about, and has responded to, since the beginning of his career. this is from a year before Channel Orange:http://necolebitchie.com/2011/06/miguel-addresses-his-sexuality-i-love-women/
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link
there are gay rumors about every (and i mean EVERY) successful male R&B singer but Miguel is one of the few where it became an overt component of his interviews/career narrative right off the bat without any real basis for it
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 01:02 (eight years ago) link
I like frank ocean but I don't want to fuck to it. Point miguel.
― Popture, Thursday, 9 July 2015 02:32 (eight years ago) link
― The Reverend, Thursday, 9 July 2015 03:23 (eight years ago) link
lol at the idea of anyone who posts to a message board making decisions about music based on their sex lives
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 July 2015 03:42 (eight years ago) link
speak for yourself?
― The Reverend, Thursday, 9 July 2015 04:12 (eight years ago) link
anyway, you can totally have sex to frank ocean if that's really your criteria
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 July 2015 04:40 (eight years ago) link
― maura, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:19 (Yesterday) Permalink
Brainwasher pointed out jazmine Sullivan's album is continually left out in these things (and maybe a more populist/popular example than DR)
― supreme problematics (D-40), Thursday, 9 July 2015 08:15 (eight years ago) link
I want to like JS more but every time I listen to her I'm just kind of like "smart songwriting" but nothing else draws me in.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 9 July 2015 11:23 (eight years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:40 PM Bookmark
I guess, but his music (and he himself) are kind of weirdly unsexy to me.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 9 July 2015 11:24 (eight years ago) link
what is this "music to have sex to" thing?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 11:57 (eight years ago) link
i am disgusted that any of you people are having sex
― 龜, Thursday, 9 July 2015 12:00 (eight years ago) link
srsly
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 12:05 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ImRyPymRAM
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 9 July 2015 13:43 (eight years ago) link
I think we can all agree that sex is weird and gross
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
this album on the other hand just seems to get better every time I hear it, and I really don't get complaints about the sequencing
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
I feel like you guys are just grasping at "people we also like" straws to bring up Dawn or Jazmine as supposedly obvious female contemporaries of Miguel/Frank when Tinashe and Janelle Monae and Jhene Aiko are a much better fit
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
what if ~they're all different~
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link
They're all very different! I just think "why bring up Frank Ocean and not Dawn Richard" sounds disingenuous or like you expect every writer to conform to your not very widely shared view of the R&B landscape
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link
Disingenuous more so because it skirts around the reasons why gender still plays a disproportionate role in determining how we evaluate singers (or artists in general).
― Hikikomori Povich (tsrobodo), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
I think Tinashe is a good fit!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, the reach to Dawn Richards and not say, Jazmine Sullivan or Tamar Braxton or K. Michelle also feels representative of a disconnect between who a small set of music critics want to be relevant to R&B at the moment and who the average R&B listener is actually listening to on a regular basis.
― Greer, Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
hmm well no I don't hear much Sullivan, Braxton, or K Michelle in Miguel.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:58 (eight years ago) link
also: "a disconnect between who a small set of music critics want to be relevant to R&B at the moment" and R&B listeners is non-existent. IF you listen to R&B or adult R&B radio, you're sharing tastes with listeners.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link
Yeah Jazmine is more like a contemporary of Ne-Yo, and K. Michelle and Tamar are like throwbacks to that cohort who just happened to be late bloomers commercially. they feel like a very different breed to me than the eclectic Tumblr Coachella cool kid wave of Miguel/Frank/Weeknd/Jhene/Tinashe/etc.
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
Jazmine's stuff is notably less afrofuturist and experimentalno less wonderful
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
also: "a disconnect between who a small set of music critics want to be relevant to R&B at the moment" and R&B listeners is non-existent. IF you listen to R&B or adult R&B radio, you're sharing tastes with listeners.― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, July 9, 2015 1:59 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, July 9, 2015 1:59 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, but Dawn isn't getting played on R&B or adult R&B radio, unlike Miguel/Frank/Weeknd/Jhene/Tinashe, which is where my point about the disconnect comes in. That she became the go-to here was an odd choice to me given that the odds of someone outside of ILX thinking of her before they'd think Tinashes or Jhene or any of the women I mentioned are extremely small, even when thinking in terms of like Tumblr coachella buzzword dead signifier R&B.
― Greer, Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
I guess I wasn't clear. I meant that most of us on ILM who love Dawn Ricahrd also listen to K Michelle, Ledisi, Keyshia Cole, and other R&B and adult R&B standbys.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
dunno if that's true honestly. K. Michelle got a little groundswell on the last year-end poll but nothing near the votes that Dawn's records have gotten.
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
oh the poll
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:48 (eight years ago) link
Haven't been following the conversation around this record too much. Has Frank Ocean really been invoked that often?
― Evan R, Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link
I go by seeing the same ten or eleven names in R&B threads.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link
― Evan R, Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:51 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
in Miguel reviews? it was finally starting to become less of a ubiquitous theme (save for the Pitchfork review) before Miguel's little interview this week made FO a permanent part of his narrative.
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link
Ha. I do think three or four years ago the comparisons were fair game—two extremely talented R&B singers, each carving their own path, and it was interesting to compare and contrast their visions. And there is some truth to the narrative that Miguel saw R&B changing, opening up to different styles and approaches, and really ran with it. But all that is pretty old news by now.
― Evan R, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link
I've read many essays and reviews alleging that 808 & Heartbreak and Drake and whatnot changed it. How was it changing? Serious question.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link
yeah it felt pretty forced to me in 2012 but a little inevitable, and they were both L.A.-based guys. but in 2015, seeing "alt R&B" in every Miguel review, and "PBR&B" in the first sentence of The Weeknd's wiki entry, just shows how much those hacky angles stuck with people and continue to shape how they see these artists. (xp)
― some dude, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
Here's how Tom Breihan wrote about Kaleidoscope Dream around its release:
A few years ago, Miguel seemed like the sort of fabulously talented R&B singer who routinely gets lost in the major-label shuffle. His “All I Want Is You” was a great single, but ask Jazmine Sullivan what a great single or two have done for her. But then the whole hipster-soul wave of the Weeknd and Frank Ocean happened last year, and you could almost see the figurative lightbulb clicking on over Miguel’s head all the way on the other side of the country. Around the same time Drake was releasing Take Care, his own excellently fleshed-out take on that sound, Miguel was starting to toss out his series of Art Dealer Chic EPs for free online.
Where that narrative falls apart for me, of course, (beyond the "hipster soul" tag and how "PBR&B" was tagged as a more fringe, indie-driven movement than it really was, just because R&B trends happened to start overlapping with indie tastes) is Miguel had been doing outsider-y, avant R&B since at least 2008, with his Mischief tape
― Evan R, Thursday, 9 July 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link
Worth noting that a lot of what ended up on AIWIY was originally written with the intent of being given to other artists, so if it's not as representative of his ~singular vision~ as KD/Wildheart, that's probably a part of it.
― The Reverend, Friday, 10 July 2015 02:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah i don't fault anyone for hearing "All I Want Is You" and figuring that was Miguel's deal for a while, i certainly didn't dig any further until i fell in love with "Sure Thing"
― some dude, Friday, 10 July 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link
just the way he sings in the first verse of the first song + the effects my reaction was :D:D:D yes yes yes yes
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 July 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link
first six tracks completely sold me on miguel's first album. Also, My Piece. never clicked with the rest.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 July 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
"Teach Me" still makes me melt
― Evan R, Friday, 10 July 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
yeah "teach me" might still be my favorite song of his
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Friday, 10 July 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link
do not rate it all, playing now
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 July 2015 16:18 (eight years ago) link
Most of AIWIY works for Miguel despite the tracks apparently being earmarked for other singers. The only one I feel doesn't work is Pay Me.
― vmajestic, Friday, 10 July 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link
i think i like miguel's dirtbag style in a way that does not jibe with ilxhivemind because i love "the valley" and "pay me"
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 July 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
I love The Valley, too. There's something about Pay Me that just sounds like it was written for a different voice on top of using then-trendy production choices. Feels forced, unlike the rest of the tracks on that first album.
― vmajestic, Friday, 10 July 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link
yeah, it's not so much that it's a bad song it just doesn't work as a miguel song at all
― The Reverend, Saturday, 11 July 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link
i like "The Valley" but it's like Exhibit A in the album's poor sequencing, would sound so much better if it showed up in the second half after you're totally immersed in his world
― some dude, Saturday, 11 July 2015 00:43 (eight years ago) link
The Valley would stick out like a sore thumb wherever it sat on the tracklisting, not sure that straightforward sleaze is a particularly good look for Miguel, he's at his best when he's playing with perspectives and that one just feels forced.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 11 July 2015 09:10 (eight years ago) link
god, I really love Hollywood dreams
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 July 2015 12:39 (eight years ago) link
I'm still not completely sold on this record, but as of yesterday I have gone from only loving "Coffee" to digging the whole "Coffee" through "Hollywood Dreams" stretch. Progress!
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link
NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA NWA
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 07:09 (eight years ago) link
I still have to listen to it a little more to have a clearer idea but so far I really like the album. especially "coffee" and "wave". there's an over the top/romantic approach that could be a bit annoying and ridiculous but it kinda works.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 11:32 (eight years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2015/07/15/miguel-leaves-riff-1979-smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-credit/
Lol oh dear.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link
I'm imagine a furious Miguel binning an entire session's worth of recordings upon realising he's accidentally remade Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link
ah. that said, I did think it sounded like the smashing pumpkins !actually this album sounds more like a 90s indie album than a rnb one to me...
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link
yeah that riff is Corgan-ish
― Evan R, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link
Emptiness is lonelinessand loneliness is cleanlinessand cleanliness is godlinessand god... turns into coffee in the morning
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link
yeah that riff is Corgan-ish― Evan R, mercredi 15 juillet 2015 16:14 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Evan R, mercredi 15 juillet 2015 16:14 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and indeed, as said in the article, the drum kit on that song also REALLY sounds like 1979.he would have been sued his sexy ass !
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link
DON'T FUCKING GIVE THAT ASSHOLE ME
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link
errrr
DON'T FUCKING GIVE THAT ASSHOLE MONEY
too angry about Billy getting paid to type correctly
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link
― Matt DC, Wednesday, July 15, 2015 7:24 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
omfg lol
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 July 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link
LOL
― flopson, Thursday, 16 July 2015 01:01 (eight years ago) link
uhhttp://i.imgur.com/7eubvyy.jpg
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 17 July 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link
that's genuinely at worst the 3rd or 4th most head-shaking thing he's said or tweeted in the past month
― some dude, Friday, 17 July 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
i would like to see the top two plz.
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 July 2015 03:12 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Miguel/status/618996710518329344
― The Reverend, Friday, 17 July 2015 10:32 (eight years ago) link
Does "thot" just mean, like, "hoe"? Is it pronounced like "thought"?
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Monday, 20 July 2015 10:35 (eight years ago) link
A) p much; B) a bit more abruptly
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:07 (eight years ago) link
i keep trying but this album still sounds humorous to me
― soyrev, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:36 (eight years ago) link
that's a good thing!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2015 12:35 (eight years ago) link
ohhh :D
― soyrev, Monday, 20 July 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link
"coffee" is soooooooooo good
― marcos, Monday, 20 July 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
"Leaves" is too:
http://www.directlyrics.com/miguel-leaves-lyrics.html
― curmudgeon, Monday, 20 July 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
pretty sure "THOT" stands for "those hos over there" which makes me even more unreasonably annoyed when it's used in the plural
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 July 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
eternally ;_; @ lyric websites getting it wrong
― lex pretend, Monday, 20 July 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
"leaves" stops me in my tracks every time
something about how his voice is suddenly there, right in your ear and unadorned after spending 10 tracks muffled and deep in the mix and switching itself up
― lex pretend, Monday, 20 July 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Monday, July 20, 2015 8:28 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
folk etymology
― The Reverend, Monday, 20 July 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link
forks etymology
― 龜, Monday, 20 July 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
Pretty sure it's "that hoe over there" which adds levels to your unreasonable annoyance xps
― tsrobodo, Monday, 20 July 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
leaves -> face the sun is so killer
i think we can all agree that "THOT" is a horrible phrase/word/acronym/whatever
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 July 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link
^ too moral for the cut-thot
― example (crüt), Monday, 20 July 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
Rather be a thot than a whore
― tsrobodo, Monday, 20 July 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link
poorly thot out imo
― you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 July 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
man the preventive crediting inspirations to avoid lawsuits is one sad trend in the wrong direction. ~what happened to music
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link
i've come around to "beautiful exit" still not crazy about the guitars but pretty much everything else is really good about that song especially the vocals
― marcos, Thursday, 23 July 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
uh put some clothes on pleaze
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 July 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=11&v=jKRILqc__E0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mobbfyhYek
looks like it was shot on a budget of $100
― 龜, Sunday, 2 August 2015 11:35 (eight years ago) link
It's missing a desert scene but otherwise I feel this clip is kind of perfect for the song?
― Tim F, Sunday, 2 August 2015 12:01 (eight years ago) link
I was thinking that that california sun man
― 龜, Sunday, 2 August 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link
works for me
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 August 2015 12:23 (eight years ago) link
not enough flesh shown though
what do you mean, you get full frontal leather jacket
― FLOPSZN (some dude), Sunday, 2 August 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
wow I'm high and listening to "NWA" very good activity
― drown zoowap (The Reverend), Monday, 3 August 2015 02:29 (eight years ago) link
see this guy live on this tour, jesus fucking christ
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 August 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link
"what's normal anyway" has a pop punk outro
his band is straight up unbelievable
there were breaks but it felt like a continuous 90 minutes of music
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 August 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link
listen here I'm getting awfully tired of reading about your having a good time
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:11 (eight years ago) link
he crowdsurfed twice
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link
not sure what I'd do if his body sweat fell on me
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link
sounds like i might be chatting w/ him tomorrow. commence pants-shitting
― alpine static, Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link
http://www.journalmpls.com/news-feed/first-avenue-ceiling-collapse-injures-three
oh no, he was supposed to be on for saturday :(
get well soon, theory of a deadman fans
― goole, Thursday, 13 August 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
bummer
― marcos, Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
― drown zoowap (The Reverend), Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:29 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol yes sounds like a very good activity.
i really dig NWA but sometimes kurupt's verse kind of grates, it is a little corny maybe?
not super into his album as a whole tbh, def rank it below the first two
― flopson, Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link
yea
― Spottie, Thursday, 13 August 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link
ditto, but the highs are excellent
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
the highs are nice but none come close to "coffee" imo, I think I'd feel way differently about this album if it didn't have "coffee"
― marcos, Thursday, 13 August 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link
but yea there are a fair amount of tracks I skip
This was a disappointment in the end. I thought Coffee would be the conventional really good-but-nice middling track amongst other truly great things that stretched out his sound. As it turned out, it was the best song and the strongest hook. Offputting production and session muso rock guitar sounds didn't help.
― paulhw, Friday, 14 August 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
yea a lot of the rock touches on this just don't appeal to me
― marcos, Friday, 14 August 2015 00:04 (eight years ago) link
boooooo @ everyone
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 14 August 2015 00:04 (eight years ago) link
coffee is sublime though easily one my favorite tracks of the year
― marcos, Friday, 14 August 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link
I'm having this weird relationship with the album right now where on one listen I'll really like it, and then on the next I'll find its spotty and trying.
"Coffee" still among the best tracks of the year, if not THE best.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Friday, 14 August 2015 01:32 (eight years ago) link
coffee takes me places :D
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 August 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link
― marcos, Friday, 14 August 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link
i love the rock touches on this!!! still as wonderful as ever for me
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 August 2015 09:22 (eight years ago) link
idk i never really liked "coffee" that much
i do find the album lacking somewhat compared to kaleidoscope dream but it still has a few great songs
― dyl, Friday, 14 August 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
this album is so warm and glowy idk
― 龜, Friday, 14 August 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
First Ave show was moved to State Theater. A somewhat less exciting prospect but I'll be there. He talks about the venue change here: http://www.citypages.com/music/miguel-talks-first-ave-racial-expectations-sex-7567982
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Saturday, 15 August 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link
great url lol
― marcos, Saturday, 15 August 2015 03:37 (eight years ago) link
I was at the State Theater show in Minneapolis last night. People were not kidding how incredible his band is. One of the highlights was the guitarist spinning around really fast whilst playing The Thrill. One of the best live shows I've been to.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 16 August 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Thursday, August 13, 2015 9:32 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha yea me too, i listened this morning and i was like "okay this is awesome there are only like 2 tracks i don't like"
― marcos, Monday, 17 August 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
"the valley" is really bad imo, i'm just not feeling that tune at all
"flesh" on the other hand is great
"leaves" i've always liked but this morning it's been especially powerful, that tune is amaaaaaaaaaaaazing
― marcos, Monday, 17 August 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
i don't think i know who geoffreyess is???
i was at the minneapolis show. i had a great time, but in recollection my feelings are kind of negative, i'll have to think about it
― goole, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
it was kind of a marathon; he gave songs i liked less real workouts, stuff i liked he just kind of breezed through.
and maybe i totally lost the plot but i don't think he played arch & point?
i was into how douchey is band was though
― goole, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
man that opener though, wtf was that even
― goole, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link
these guys? they sound pretty um.https://soundcloud.com/dorothytheband
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link
i really like them
― maura, Monday, 17 August 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
(i wrote about them for RS six months ago! thanks whiney)
first two songs not doing anything for me but i respect yer opinion so will try again
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link
i mean if you're not into the whole deap vally/dead sara/loud ladies over crushing blues riffs thing then it might not be your cup o tea
― maura, Monday, 17 August 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link
yyyyyyyyeah, this may be a case of diverging tastes. they sound to me like a faster pussycat cover band with a female lead.
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 August 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
you say that like it's a bad thing
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 August 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
if you had asked me twenty years ago!
― Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 August 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Dorothy was not my cup o tea at all but I admired the commitment and sorta understood why they might have been invited to open. In a month that has already brought much worse opening acts, I had some mild affection for them.
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Monday, 17 August 2015 23:54 (eight years ago) link
I didn't hear "Arch and Point" played, though the boundaries between songs were somewhat indistinct at times, the music restructured to address and engage the audience.
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Monday, 17 August 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link
Anyway I had a great, smiley time at the show. Thrusting, come-ons, long-winded monologue about celebrating your individuality, the "How Many Drinks" processional to the balcony, then brief disappearance (where's Miguel??) and triumphant return to the stage. It was all good.
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link
discovered the flow of this record would be improved slightly if "coffee" and "what's normal anyway" were moved after "hollywood dreams"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link
i guess if you want the back half of the album to completely destroy the first half instead of merely outshining it
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:56 (eight years ago) link
eh i love the first half of this record
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 02:20 (eight years ago) link
The Valley isn't Miguel's greatest moment, but it def suffers a bit because I get an itchy trigger finger to get to Coffee.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 02:43 (eight years ago) link
long-winded monologue about celebrating your individuality
i found this really moving
― goole, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link
i was, like, so close to him when he came up the aisle. tastefully kept my phone pocketed.
― goole, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link
Me too!
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
he was quite smothered by phones
a modern malaise if any
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link
DEAL is such a jam
― marcos, Thursday, 20 August 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link
Although kinda subtle and not awfully dramatic, "what's normal anyway" has increasingly revealed itself to be the beating heart of this record. Sleeper deep cut. Is that manipulated vocal hook that occurs throughout sampling anything? Sounds awfully familiar...
― vmajestic, Thursday, 20 August 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
I accept "What's Normal Anyway" as the heart of this record but I really don't fuck with it at all. I mean, I used to do the "I'm mixed, woe is me, nobody understands me" thing but then I recognized it for the internalized manifestation of white supremacy it is and can't stand when other people get in their #MixedFeelings. Like it's really fucking shitty to monoracial black people.
― drown zoowap (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 August 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link
it's a very pretty song, it does so much with very little, but the lyrics are definitely the worst mutation of his individuality fixation
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 August 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link
i respect those takes takes but the song doesn't feel self-pitying or yearning to fit in to me, just the phrase "what's normal anyway" seems to me like a poetically casual way to shrug it all off. race is obviously a big component of the song that i can speak to but i think it's also pretty broadly about a lot of 'caught between two different worlds' feelings that a lot of people have in different situations.
― some dude, Friday, 21 August 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link
i mean compared to the smug clumsy way a Kid Cudi or a Childish Gambino addresses that subject matter it's pretty deft imo.
― some dude, Friday, 21 August 2015 00:30 (eight years ago) link
The tossed-off way he sings the hook mitigates the self-pity imo. Brevity helps too.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 August 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link
if individuality fixation means pharrell influence, which i guess it does
― r|t|c, Friday, 21 August 2015 00:33 (eight years ago) link
hm true some dude, just sort of dislike the effect of ~i don't work in a binary~ *reinforces other binaries*
it's such a prettyyyy song though
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 21 August 2015 02:23 (eight years ago) link
too crazy for boystown, too much of a boy for crazytown
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 21 August 2015 02:27 (eight years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, 21 August 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
In a crowd and I need a bone.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 August 2015 02:37 (eight years ago) link
― drown zoowap (The Reverend), Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if mixed ppl don't talk about the specific issues of being mixed no one else will though. i've definitely seen some instances where the internalised white supremacy is obvious but i disagree that #mixedproblems are inherently shitty to black people.
"what's normal anyway" feels v borne of miguel's own life experiences
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 August 2015 06:57 (eight years ago) link
imo it is one of the weaker songs on here, i think it's a little corny and obvious tbh. i admire the spirit of the song. i'm hispanic/latino but grew up in a completely homogenous white suburb so have always felt like an outsider among both white and latino circles, it took a long time for me to be able to process the yes *intersectional* aspects of my identity, being a poc but also feeling more familiar (though not comfortable) with white middle class environments, tbh the 15-year-old me would have fucking loved the song to death but it's a little too much for me now? idk.
and tbf to miguel he's talking about being mixed mexican/black and that's a somewhat different dynamic than the #mixedfeelings rev is referencing?
that said i do think both lex & rev are otm here.
― marcos, Friday, 21 August 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link
He talks a little about What's Normal Anyway specifcally here: http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/whats-normal-anyway/Content?oid=16294961
Even after his quick rise and the success of Kaleidoscope Dream, Miguel says he still has "a bit of an underdog mentality" that he'll likely carry for the rest of his life. But he's carrying a lot less than he used to. He calls "What's Normal Anyway" an "emancipation" from the feelings it expresses; just by writing them and singing them out loud, he has not only offloaded their power over him, but has turned them into forces for good."Letting go of all of these parameters that I felt kept me from connecting, I've almost repurposed them and made them the reason why I do connect," Miguel says. "Because in that vulnerability, there's commonality, and people can relate with feeling out of place."
"Letting go of all of these parameters that I felt kept me from connecting, I've almost repurposed them and made them the reason why I do connect," Miguel says. "Because in that vulnerability, there's commonality, and people can relate with feeling out of place."
― alpine static, Friday, 21 August 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link
parameters, repurposed, commonality
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link
he's got the jargon down
every song was mistagged when i dl'd this so only now am i realizing the standout for me is 'leaves', i love it as mch as u guys did adorn
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 6 September 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link
its really confusing bcuz im too lazy to rename it & its tagged FLESH & prev i thought it mightev been hollywood dreams lol
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 6 September 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
i love "leaves" more than "adorn"
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 10:44 (eight years ago) link
ooohh let my leaves adorn you
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 11:04 (eight years ago) link
i love both leaves and adorn very very much
― marcos, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link
been listening to kaleidoscope dream a lot lately, it so so so good
it actually makes me appreciate wildheart a lot more, idk why, i know i talked some shit about the rock touches on wildheart but i have been digging them more
whoever said upthread that their opinion changes all the time about wildheart was otm, right now though i am loving it and loving miguel so much
― marcos, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link
curious what people think of the production. it seems really "vibe-y" and almost lo fi in a lot of places. more like classic rock in some ways.
― unknown pleasure zone (uptown churl), Friday, 11 September 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link
he's always had that balance i think. for all its lush qualities "adorn" also strikes me as distinctly homemade
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 11 September 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
whoever said upthread that their opinion changes all the time about wildheart was otm
i feel this and still not sure if i even like it &
this is just crazy to me
― tpp, Friday, 11 September 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
i love the way he sings "you know i'm from here" in leaves
― marcos, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e35/11950557_842698412517250_831670875_n.jpg
― marcos, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link
he performed "Simplethings" on the Tonight Show recently...interesting if that's the single, considering it's so old and a bonus track, but then there's not many really strong single candidates on the album proper. it's maybe TOO similar to "Coffee," which got fairly little airplay, but i like both songs.
― some dude, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link
"Waves" should be a single, fits in pretty well with the Derulo-wave stuff all over the radio right now
― The Reverend, Friday, 25 September 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link
yea totally tbh I had assumed waves was already a single
Is coffee the only single? Besides waves I think leaves or beautiful exit could also work
― marcos, Friday, 25 September 2015 03:14 (eight years ago) link
huh "Waves" is one of the last songs i would've thought of as having any radio potential
― some dude, Friday, 25 September 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link
It immediately jumped out at me as the catchiest thing on the album.
― The Reverend, Friday, 25 September 2015 04:44 (eight years ago) link
Waves is definitely my second favourite after Coffee.
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Friday, 25 September 2015 05:18 (eight years ago) link
... Derulo-wave...
― The Reverend, Thursday, September 24, 2015
omg otm
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 September 2015 07:36 (eight years ago) link
if waves is released as a singlehoping for an over the top, rammstein-mein-land-style video
― nxd, Friday, 25 September 2015 08:13 (eight years ago) link
Waves is fantastic, it just feels like a classic driving song and surely one of the most radio-friendly on the album? Then again I'm talking about an idealised version of the radio and not the demographic-ed to hell version that actually exists.
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 September 2015 11:17 (eight years ago) link
Waves was Radio 1's song of the day a couple of days ago so it's happening
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 25 September 2015 11:41 (eight years ago) link
This is finally out on vinyl. It was a nice surprise to find it in my local store this morning.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 25 September 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
"goingtohell" is by far my favorite of the rockier songs on the album, "Waves" just never really gels for me, sounds very half-written
the Miguel feature on the Disclosure album seems below his usual standard but maybe i need to give it time
― some dude, Saturday, 26 September 2015 04:14 (eight years ago) link
I feel the exact opposite way around, I always forget that goingtohell exists.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:35 (eight years ago) link
me too, I've been listening to this album for months and I still can't even remember what goingtohell sounds like
apart from leaves and maybe flesh I think the second half of this is much weaker than the first half, hollywood dreams in particular is one of my least favorites
― marcos, Saturday, 26 September 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link
barf
https://soundcloud.com/miguel/simple-things-re-lit-ft-chris-brown-future-re-lit-by-brook-dleau-miguel
― some dude, Friday, 9 October 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link
"waves" is getting a video
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 16 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
and a j. cole remix it looks like
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Saturday, 17 October 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aPzdHSmcH0
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
soon we'll see a J. Cole song with a "feat. J. Cole" credit.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 October 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
― Evan R, Monday, 19 October 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
http://covers1.img-themusic-world.info/000/8/8090.jpg
― The Reverend, Friday, 23 October 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link
"Super Turnt Up" is a song by American recording artist Ciara credited for featuring herself, the song was recorded for her fifth self-titled studio album Ciara (2013).
― lex pretend, Friday, 23 October 2015 08:15 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ozu2h637lA
― conditional random jepsen (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link
https://vine.co/v/hEtQtAOgzPX
― some dude, Monday, 15 February 2016 00:52 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lnykmCFjFs
i like this 'remix'
― 龜, Saturday, 20 February 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link
better than the orig imo
― some dude, Saturday, 20 February 2016 14:06 (eight years ago) link
what a horribly formed "remix"
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 February 2016 14:15 (eight years ago) link
j/k it's not bad
kacey musgraves remix of "waves" is just delightful
a touch of the xx's debut about it or am i imagining things
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 February 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link
no i totally hear it as like a country version of an xx song that never existed http://leakedsounds.net/2016/02/25/miguel-ft-kacey-musgraves-waves-remix-cdq/
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 23:38 (eight years ago) link
wow
― goole, Friday, 26 February 2016 00:11 (eight years ago) link
apparently there's a whole "Waves" remixes EP coming out tomorrow
― some dude, Friday, 26 February 2016 02:05 (eight years ago) link
A "What's Normal Anyway" duet would've been very on-brand for her.
― dc, Friday, 26 February 2016 04:47 (eight years ago) link
kacey remix is the standout on the ep by a billion miles
tame impala remix is terribleidk who rac is but that remix is alright but i feel like it's not quite as much of a mood alteration as it could've beenjoshua tree version is just an acoustic versionthe travis scott remix, ehhhh
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 26 February 2016 11:33 (eight years ago) link
Who is this EP actually aimed at? Like, that's just a really weird collection of remixers.
― Matt DC, Friday, 26 February 2016 11:37 (eight years ago) link
Was almost thinking I would happily hear Kacey covering Wildheart in its entirety, and then I remembered that The Valley and NWA were on it and thought yeah maybe not every song.
― Matt DC, Friday, 26 February 2016 11:39 (eight years ago) link
i think the EP primarily exists to push "Waves" (particularly the Travis Scott remix) as a radio single and remind people that this commercial DOA project exists, while also expanding the diversity/versatility of Miguel's sound and brand
― some dude, Friday, 26 February 2016 12:06 (eight years ago) link
OG "Waves" is a minor Derulo-wave masterpiece
― Hey (Extended Mix), Saturday, 27 February 2016 00:27 (eight years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 27 February 2016 01:44 (eight years ago) link
i played miguel at work and people enjoyed it
this is to someone's credit but i can't decide who
― somewhere btwn Gabriel Garcia Marquez and early Evel Knievel guy (contenderizer), Saturday, 27 February 2016 02:03 (eight years ago) link
what is remotely derulo about that song, of all songs
― some dude, Saturday, 27 February 2016 02:21 (eight years ago) link
it fits right in with "Want to Want Me", "Cheyenne", "I Can't Feel My Face", "Jealous" etc
― Hey (Extended Mix), Saturday, 27 February 2016 02:48 (eight years ago) link
yeah I heard "Get Ugly" twice today and hile I love Migs and Derulo's last album I hear no similarities.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 February 2016 02:58 (eight years ago) link
It doesn't sound like "Get Ugly". You're making this more complicated than it is.
― Hey (Extended Mix), Saturday, 27 February 2016 03:45 (eight years ago) link
"It sounds like these Jason Derulo songs and similar songs by other other artists."
"But it doesn't sound like this other Derulo song that you weren't invoking at all!"
― Hey (Extended Mix), Saturday, 27 February 2016 03:46 (eight years ago) link
having not expected this ep at all i'm pleased to have this keeper from it, but it's so good that it makes me think a miguel remix project could've been even better - remixing a variety of songs off wildheart instead of just one? or just having kacey musgraves do all of them, imagine her doing "leaves"
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 February 2016 11:47 (eight years ago) link
my thoughts exactly
― dc, Saturday, 27 February 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link
okay, i spent like three hours just on the sgraffito for this today and it's still off balance but hey, ilx delivers
http://i.imgur.com/04TMpkn.png
http://i.imgur.com/lIAfiwi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F3G34Su.png
http://i.imgur.com/NwpXBbc.jpg
― ulysses, Sunday, 28 February 2016 02:52 (eight years ago) link
I need one of those!!!
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 February 2016 03:31 (eight years ago) link
omg want
― Roz, Sunday, 28 February 2016 04:20 (eight years ago) link
omg forks do u do shipping
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 February 2016 09:17 (eight years ago) link
Nice
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 February 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 28 February 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link
Kacey Musgraves sound more alive on this remix than on her last album.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 February 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link
too far
― some dude, Sunday, 28 February 2016 15:52 (eight years ago) link
this mug tho
― Hey (Extended Mix), Monday, 29 February 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link
― gr8080, Monday, 29 February 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link
back on his kaleidoscope dream shit http://www.thefader.com/2016/06/23/miguel-come-through-and-chill
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
"put your sweats on" prob the most appealing request a man could make of me tbh
― dc, Friday, 24 June 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link
unless it's "sweatpants."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
only if it's sweatpants
― dc, Friday, 24 June 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
i was just listening to "the thrill" this morning, i feel so exuberant whenever i hear it
― marcos, Friday, 24 June 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
that really is one of his very best songs
― some dude, Friday, 24 June 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/miguel/how-many-ruff-1
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 11 July 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link
also: http://mp3waxx.com/jobfolders/schoolboyqovertime/index.html
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 11 July 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmZdjWPWYAAFsOj.jpg
looooooooooooooooool
― Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Monday, 11 July 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link
rad times indeed
― Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Monday, 11 July 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link
Just to clarify:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Happoldt
I do like that this guy is on a one-name basis with Sublime fans though. His biggest claim to fame is inheriting a Dalmation.
― Evan R, Monday, 11 July 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
Oh damn, that takes the fun out of everything. I'm glad someone took care of Lou Dog tho.
― Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Monday, 11 July 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link
it's still fun imo
― Evan R, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
http://partners.abc.com/miguel-higher-love
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
Miguel was a stunner at Pitchfork: a delight.
Plz stop being so charming, Miguel.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
"Cadillac" is great. Might be my favorite song of the past couple months.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 11 August 2016 08:06 (seven years ago) link
Heard part of it in background somewhere, and was thinking it could be Miguel, and its not bad.
http://pitchfork.com/news/67303-listen-to-miguels-new-song-cadillac-from-netflixs-the-get-down-soundtrack/
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Covering "Crazy In Love" on the 50 Shades Darker trailer. "Uh oh, uh oh, uh oh, oh no no", indeed.
http://www.vulture.com/2016/09/watch-the-fifty-shades-darker-trailer.html?mid=facebook_vulture
― Roz, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link
like being trapped in a sexy sexy tar pit of stupid
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
seeing him tomorrow (he's opening for sia). this will be like the 26th time i've seen him since being introduced to his music by a student (who was interning at epic) six years ago. apparently he's playing a new song called 'i told you so' on this tour?
― maura, Monday, 17 October 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
I wonder if Sia fans like him? That tour is here too, but I'm not a Sia fan. Only saw Miguel live once (at the 1,200 capacity or so Howard Theatre) and he was very charismatic and impressive onstage.
http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/miguel-1bd26528.html?song=I+Told+You+So
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link
How did his sets change after Wildheart? I saw him open for Drake on the NWTS tour and I can't say I loved all the guitars—they seemed kind of indiscriminate. Wish I'd gotten to see him shortly after All I Want Is You but the show I was gonna go to (he was opening for Trey Songz I think?) got canceled
― Evan R, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link
Saw him open for Sia on Sunday. He was sort of meandering but worked hard to win people over. To varying degrees of success.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link
Should say, highlight was him giving an inspirational speech about his climb, which culminated in him asking the audience to stand up, raise their middle fingers with him, dance and chant "fuck Donald Trump!" to a funky beat. Then when it was done he apologized to all the parents with small kids for his language, saying he was just having fun. And then without missing a beat, he returned to the "fuck Donald Trump!" chant, grinning ear to ear.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link
― maura, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link
I guess he's been doing it every night!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4a4B6yAKYk
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjUhmkhq1oc
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
hillary should have him do that at the victory party
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
I don't remember the last show I saw where the headliner didn't lead a Trump diss. I just saw Kesha then Rae Sremmurd do it
― Evan R, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, October 18, 2016
sorry bro he's already booked at my place
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
send pix
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
I'll post here: I Lost A Coughdrop in His Asshole: The ILX Gays TMI Thread
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
♫ cough drops in the morning ♫
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
GOD THAT WAS SO GREAT. miguel forever
― maura, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link
https://mobile.twitter.com/Miguel/status/788545861253001216
― maura, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link
Woulda thought Trump (and his people) would be too busy at this point to worry about what's going on at a Miguel concert, but...
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link
so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NGWZdQFLJc
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link
a little on the nose but enjoyable
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
I like it!
― removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
love 2 have fun w/ miguel
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link
Everything Premiere has done for the last 20 years has been on the nose, but I love how he just keeps doing his thing, regardless of whether it's in style or not.
This would have fit right in on All I Want is You
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
it's ok
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson),
and his cat
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link
snippet of new single, oh his VOICE oh man
SING GOT DAMMIT 🗣🗣🗣 RT @PrettyAmarillo: Miguel previewing his upcoming single on GGN News…I am Snoop 😭 pic.twitter.com/xQam5GihtC— K a r i o. (@itsKARY_) July 3, 2017
― maura, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link
i want a gif of snoop at 1:07
― flopson, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
sounds v v v good yes
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link
Yikes, "Sky Walker" is not good.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 24 August 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
Sounds like he was going for some kind of Rae Sremmurd vibe and coming up short. Will this be on the album? I hope not...
― MikoMcha, Friday, 25 August 2017 05:40 (six years ago) link
barf this is awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76O3w4pt0CA
― Evan R, Friday, 25 August 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link
yeah, not enjoyable.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 25 August 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link
uh oh
― maura, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
can I unhear this
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
obv this is far from an ideal miguel single but i don't hate it. it actually could fit pretty seamlessly into the dreamy middle section of kaleidoscope dream.
also i like wildheart and defended it at the time, but i'll be happy if he bends back towards radio music instead of following his rock star muse even further down that rabbit hole. despite this song i think it will be good for him... he made better music when he was trying to get played on R&B radio
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 August 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link
AIWIY is his best album
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 August 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
This could easily have fitted on Kaleidoscope Dream and (especially) on Wildheart, it doesn't feel like such a radical left turn for me. Travis Scott should be nowhere near it obviously, but it's otherwise fine.
― Matt DC, Friday, 25 August 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
travis scott sounds good on it i think... it nods at his sound w/o being a direct rip off. my main problem is that i can't credibly buy miguel singing about his haters
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 August 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
It's not the subject matter I have a problem with; it's the intrinsic lameness. He sounds like a colossal doofus
― Evan R, Friday, 25 August 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
also I he could tone down the boyishness and maybe turn up the grown-man factor a bit. like the song is this close to having a line about how warm coco feels good in his tum tum
― Evan R, Friday, 25 August 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
lol oh dear. it is not completely awful but it is very... meandering? and yes goofy. sounds like an interlude that shouldn't have been extended to a full-length song.
he made better music when he was trying to get played on R&B radio
i agree with this!
― dyl, Friday, 25 August 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
I wish he recorded more R&B and not these pieces of chewy toffee.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
im not defending this song exactly (tho i do like it more than you guys) as much as the direction it would indicate he's heading in, which i think is healthy
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 August 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
imo this makes a nice "welp 2017" bookend to the new taylor swift single
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 25 August 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
idk this sounds fine to me. flow is sremmurdish?
― flopson, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
i agree w J0rdan about the direction; wildheart was too rock for me
― flopson, Friday, 25 August 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
I agree with the direction that takes Miguel into taking his shirt off.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 August 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
this would fit in seamlessly among the vibey ballads on the back half of Sremmlife 2 (patti cake, do yoga, swang)
― flopson, Friday, 25 August 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
will not stand for the Sremmlife 2 slander but I agree the rock direction was getting grating. His voice was made for R&B
― Evan R, Friday, 25 August 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
i'm not slandering srem2! i think this song is just fine
― flopson, Friday, 25 August 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
seems fine to me. not amazing but not awful
― ||||||||, Friday, 25 August 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link
this is great yall trippin
― Spottie, Friday, 25 August 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link
Sounds like a blah Miguel track to me (rather than an atrocity).
― the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Friday, 25 August 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link
more babes than a bath house
― flopson, Saturday, 26 August 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link
this song is whatever
― k3vin k., Saturday, 26 August 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
which sadly was my initial reaction to learning there was a new miguel song in 2017
― k3vin k., Saturday, 26 August 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link
stop trying to make "splish" a thing
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 27 August 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
This single kind of reminds me when Janelle Monae put out Yoga a couple of years ago. It didn't really fit in with what she'd be doing before (musically and quality-wise) and sounded like she wanted to try and desperately get that summer hit. With the Janelle single, it did give her her first solo Billboard entry but thankfully didn't start the campaign for her third album (although I'd just like signs that there will be a third album at this stage). Hopefully Sky Walker isn't anywhere near Miguel's next album. The song in the Snoop clip sounds much more promising.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 27 August 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
um
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BISfVE1XK8A
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 7 September 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
Now THIS sucks.
― the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 September 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
who's MIgue?
― Spottie, Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
Miguel is bad now :(
― Evan R, Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
yeah this one isn't good at all. produced by pop & oak tho. fwiw given that it's 2:30 it seems more like a little teaser thing than something serious.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 September 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
ok this version of "skywalker" is pretty great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwVwpAjB6vY
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 September 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
also this song is still the shit to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iCPAXnguwY
His new look reminds me of the grownup version of a child actor from "The Cosby Show" or something.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 September 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link
i think the dreads are hot & these arrangements really lean into like the whole neo-soul stoner vibe
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 September 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link
It's not the dreads so much as the shirt.
I like that "Skywalker" version – more of this, please, not power chords.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
"Come Through and Chill" is good and I'm glad he's outgrown his rawk phase, but I'm not really feeling driftless beach bum Miguel at all.
― Evan R, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
On All I Want Is You and Kaleidoscope Dream (and even the Mischief tape) he was so hungry for the music he was making, he was just fiending for it. Not he seems so indifferent and disengaged. Not into it at all; feels like he's lost his muse and doesn't even care to replace it
― Evan R, Thursday, 21 September 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
i can tell you what his muse is, it's weed
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 September 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
I thought his cat was :(
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 September 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
I guess this confirms "Come Through and Chill" was an album preview.
― billstevejim, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hDZtHqtaTw
this is ok. why is it coming out at the end of the summer though
― maura, Friday, 29 September 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link
That Late Show tv version of "Skywalker" sounds better than the Miguel by numbers version I have heard on late-night programming on a Baltimore r'n'b/rap station. The radio version isn't terrible, just formulaic mostly.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 29 September 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
Miguel is living his best life but making his worst music
― Evan R, Friday, 29 September 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
file under sad but true
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 30 September 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link
He lost me completely
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 30 September 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link
Good for him that his finally getting mainstream feats and recognition but I don’t think it’ll last too long if he doesn’t bring back the awesomeness of his previous albums.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 30 September 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
he's probably at his lowest ebb of mainstream recognition right now...
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 30 September 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
classic moka/j0rdan
― gr8080, Friday, 6 October 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
ive warmed up to skywalker def
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 7 October 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link
i mean, i guess this probably shouldn't count as it's a cartoon soundtrack duet cut but this makes three bad tracks in a rowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iDxU9eNQ_0
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
ugh saw Miguel on the new music list and got excited, pretty bad though
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
i've come all the way around on "sky walker", i think it's a really fun song. the video sells it well too.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 October 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
this thread's reaction to it was entirely predictable but also completely incorrect
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 October 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
if you say so. still sounds like garbage to me.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 27 October 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
let miguel be cool
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 October 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
i mean it is becoming a hit but idk i still don't really like it
― dyl, Friday, 27 October 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
(which is more than i expected would happen, i should say)
― dyl, Friday, 27 October 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
it's really catchy & i think has a lot of personality actually
― J0rdan S., Friday, 27 October 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
this is great yall trippin― Spottie, Friday, August 25, 2017 3:59 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Spottie, Friday, August 25, 2017 3:59 PM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I still love it.
― Spottie, Friday, 27 October 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
sky walker owns
― ||||||||, Friday, 27 October 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, October 27, 2017 12:39 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i like it a lot now
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 27 October 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link
"told you so" is giving me art dealer chic flashbacks *_*
― J0rdan S., Friday, 3 November 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link
New album out December 1 titled War & Leisure
― monotony, Friday, 3 November 2017 05:30 (six years ago) link
“told you so” is fuckin incredible
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 3 November 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link
yeah!
― maura, Friday, 3 November 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link
woo!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 November 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link
agreed, this is his first great track in a minutehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnhlTS8RgUM
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 3 November 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
f/w this
― k3vin k., Friday, 3 November 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
sounds like MGMT Electric Feel.
― Spottie, Friday, 3 November 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
love that song
― J0rdan S., Friday, 3 November 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
same. this is good but i like the other one better
― Spottie, Friday, 3 November 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
this rules. it took a bit but I like Sky Walker now too. Shockandawe is still bad but doesn't seem to be on the album thankfully?
― ufo, Friday, 3 November 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
Damn his voice is supple
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 November 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/miguel-on-politics-adelanto-new-album-war-and-leisure-w509919
For Miguel, participating in the October 20th press conference and concert (the #SchoolsNotPrisons concert at the Adelanto Stadium baseball field) is part of a personal, slowly evolving engagement with the political moment, inspired by such musical heroes as Prince, Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder. "They all cared. It's a human thing," says Miguel. "They all pushed the boundaries in their own way. They all challenged us to look at things a different way. I saw that from the artists I love, and I decided I want to do that. To be an artist is to deal with what's happening in your time."
His upcoming fourth album, War & Leisure, is still overwhelmingly upbeat and concerned with the personal and romantic, but it also contains "Now," a questioning socially conscious ballad in the spirit of Lauryn Hill and Sam Cooke. Accompanied by layers of guitar and heavenly, electronic sounds, Miguel sings:
"CEO of the free world now/Build your walls up high and wide ... /Should we teach our children hatred?/Chase the innocent and shoot them down? ... /Is that the look of freedom, now?/Is that the sound of freedom?"Last November, at age 31, the Grammy-winning soul artist voted in his first presidential election. "Politics, I didn't have a personal interest," Miguel admits. "I didn't really care. What is my one vote? That was my attitude."
He liked President Obama, but didn't feel drawn to the political process until last year's rise of Sen. Bernie Sanders during the Democratic primaries. "Watching him made me interested," said Miguel. "It was also our peers, our conversations, and seeing people really get behind him who shared similar values." Even after Sanders lost the nomination, Miguel stayed engaged through the general election.
After voting, he spent election night with his fiancée at an arcade and played air hockey as the TVs slowly revealed the results, state by state. "The shit started rolling in," remembers Miguel, who tried to stay positive until the results were clear. "With the election going in a direction way unexpected, I couldn't take my eyes off it. I couldn't not pay attention now."
― maura, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
Thanks.
For part of the drive, he listens to the latest mixes of War & Leisure, due out December 1st, and finds more to tinker with.
I guess its done, now? That was October 20th.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKwAib6LosM
this is the best one yet, so gorgeous
― ufo, Friday, 17 November 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link
I love the bass.
This could've been on the last album.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 November 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link
yeah this is one of my favorites although i have a lot of them
― maura, Friday, 17 November 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link
yoooooooo
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 17 November 2017 13:16 (six years ago) link
"pineapple skies" and "told you so" have gotten me pretty excited for the album... could shape up to be better than wildheart for me :)
― dyl, Friday, 17 November 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
Yeah, this is so dope. Previewed on Snoop's youtube channel iirc
― MikoMcha, Friday, 17 November 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link
damn this is electrifying, maybe better than anything on Wildheart. I'd basically written him off after all his garbage singles this year; feels good to be reminded why I used to adore this guy
― Evan R, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
Told You So and Pineapple Skies are both so awesome that I feel bad that I doubted him. I'm still waiting for Skywalker to click.
― kitchen person, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
Yeah I wouldn't hold me breath for that. I dunno if the tracklist has been released, but I'm still holding out hope Skywalker doesn't make the cut. Can't imagine how any album could work around that dog pile.
― Evan R, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
"sky walker" is on it. also you're wrong
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
"sky walker" is my least favorite among what's widely available so far but i can stomach it now, i accept it and don't feel it will be terribly out of place. honestly i'm just glad ~the marketplace~ is still allowing him to get hits even if they're not going to be the best work he's capable of.
― dyl, Friday, 17 November 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
another new song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjm81OPZbpU
― monotony, Monday, 27 November 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link
the fuck is he still doing with J. Cole
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 November 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link
His second verse is shameful but I don't mind Cole on tracks like this. There's something so anonymous and nondescript about his rapping that his verses feel like an unintentional throwback to the NJS days, before guest raps went to big names or artists with visions and personalities. Back then it always used to sound like the rap came from, like, a backup dancer or friend of the producer who just happened to raise his hand and volunteer to lend the track some color. Cole raps about on par with one of those guys.
― Evan R, Monday, 27 November 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
miguel continuing to align himself with corny rappers, you don't say
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 27 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
reminds me of seeing janet last week and having to suffer through the cole verse on "no sleeep" being needlessly piped through the soundsystem
was pleasantly surprised when his voice popped up during the song on the closing credits of Coco.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7VPdpEV1m0
― competitive shooter - - - - (Spottie), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
Natalia Lafourcade's Musas is lovely as well
― Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link
aw! xp
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
Damn, Come Thru 2.0 wasted an opportunity to re-title it "Netflix and Chill."
― billstevejim, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
Tour announced. I haven't seen him since Kaleidoscope Dream. Does he still do the rock band thing or has he toned that down?
― Evan R, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link
The last time I saw Miguel was last year when he opened for Sia; he performed in front of a bunch of screens with musicians behind him. Not sure if that was because of stage-setup constraints or what.
I do know that his longtime guitarist Dru Decaro is currently touring with Vic Mensa - I saw him open for Jay-Z the other night. What a show, and Dru was crucial to its over-the-top intensity. What that means for next year is anyone's guess.
Did anyone go to the Brooklyn show last night?
― maura, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
He definitely did the full band thing when I saw him touring Wildheart.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
Oh yeah he did when I saw the Wildheart tour (like six times) too. But the Sia shows were I believe at the end of that cycle.
― maura, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
"pineapple skies" is such a good song, jeez. even better in sequence
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
having spent a little time with the record, i think it's essentially a hybrid of the last two, v bright and shimmery but also occasionally (especially toward the end) submerged and guitar-driven. i think it's as good as anything he's ever done. "now" is especially gorgeous
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
one also has to ignore the guests for the most part (in retrospect it's a miracle that the only guest verse on wildheart is kurupt)
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
"sky walker" also has an awesome new coda
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
The album is indeed fantastic. I enjoyed Skywalker a lot more than I've ever done. The coda definitely helps, but hearing it without watching the video did it a lot of favours too.
― kitchen person, Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
"banana clip" is so good
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
i wish "harem" was much longer than it is
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
not sure this is quite as good as the last two but still very good
when the beat comes in on now!
― ufo, Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
i love that part in “now,” it always makes me want to restart the album
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 November 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
this is more of an OK R&B rock album than I expected -- a chewy Maroon 5 album I always wanted from them.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link
jesus i guess that’s something you could say about this record
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 03:07 (six years ago) link
I'm going to assume that if I listened to this album 20+ times it would reveal itself to me in ways I'm not hearing my first time through, but I'm so goddamned bored with it I don't have another 19 listens in me.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 1 December 2017 05:18 (six years ago) link
...........
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 06:21 (six years ago) link
a chewy Maroon 5 album I always wanted from them.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:35 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jesus
― flopson, Friday, 1 December 2017 06:45 (six years ago) link
backslidebackslide
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
^^^ that's the hook I've been unable to dislodge
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
https://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/miguel-sky-walker/3628568
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
This album is wonderful. It's so bright and fizzy but every time a gutteral bass line cuts through one of those songs it's like he's plugged directly into my neural reward system
― Evan R, Friday, 1 December 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
I strongly disagree with Miguel's recent costume changes; however, he can use the parachute so long as he lands in my room.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 December 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
"got a mind like columbine" less than 30 seconds in is up there with his most cringeworthy moves
album is pretty good though
― anza808, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
ok so this is pretty solid so far. "banana clip" sounds like an AIWIY/KD throwback a little. dig it
― k3vin k., Saturday, 2 December 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
album owns
― ||||||||, Saturday, 2 December 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
Miguel as wannabe baby boomer pt 684 - you realise when you listen to this how rarely you hear the word "woman" in male-fronted R&B, or indeed most pop music these days. Certainly not in that sort of full-throated lascivious/longing way Miguel sings it, but that's everywhere in 70s rock and soul.
As a singer, Miguel seems to be on a similar trajectory to Beyonce post-4, that willingness to explore the full possibilities of vocal *performance* - the breadth and range of what he does with his voice is so much broader than it was on AIWIU or Kaleidoscope Dream - the way he can move from the swoop to the snarl in one phrase.
Also the bassline on Caramelo Duro rules.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 3 December 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
He loves singing, and that joy translates. He loves to sing and it doesn't make him self-absorbed like, say, Alicia Keys.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 December 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
his songs are very loose
― j., Monday, 4 December 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link
this is more of an OK R&B rock album than I expected
^^^^^this.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
I really like this, a lot more than the last one, and I thought it was a lot more instant too. It's not quite Kaleidescope Dream but few things are.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
from all evidence miguel live is still full band workouts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doeWN1nK1RQ
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
https://t.co/vovUAwRYXB
― maura, Friday, 8 December 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link
nice!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
I'm a bit nonplussed by this one which saddens me a bit. "Now" is my favorite thing on here
― Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
sky walker is both lame and gorgeous
― gospodin simmel, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
Feeling that about City of Angels rn.
― Fetchboy, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link
Pretty disappointing album. All just feels a bit safe and samey.
― paulhw, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
yeah this sounded like a dud to me
― flopson, Saturday, 9 December 2017 01:12 (six years ago) link
i thought this was ok, but not at the level of most of his other stuff. but i should relisten
― k3vin k., Saturday, 9 December 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link
i haven't given it a second listen yet lol
― dyl, Saturday, 9 December 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link
I threw a list together.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 December 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link
yeah on second listen i’m not really into this at all :(
alfred you are missing “teach me”!
― k3vin k., Sunday, 10 December 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link
wtf y’all
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link
i dunno i'm no miguel scholar but seems as good as the last one to me
― j., Sunday, 10 December 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link
first two >> last two
― k3vin k., Sunday, 10 December 2017 04:30 (six years ago) link
don't @ me
ok k3v we get it you like all i want is you
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 05:01 (six years ago) link
Pineapple Skies is beautiful but I can't disassociate it from Whenever You're Near Me by Ace of Base.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 10 December 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
This can't even be in dispute, right? His latest albums are nice but those first two were visionary. Even Wildheart was a fairly considerable step down from Kaleidoscope Dream
― Evan R, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
i have listened to both recently and i think that position is bullshit though i get why people feel that way, i guess???
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
first three tracks on wildheart are a little weak but then the rest of the album is perfect
― ufo, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
I like the debut but even after hearing "Sure Thing" on the radio and loving it and digging into the album I thought it tentative, almost furtive.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
every song on the debut is good but whenever i listen to it it always feels like it’s being pulled in a few different directions at once e.g. “pay me”
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
yeah the debut is pretty scatttered. It's ideas rich but all over the place. Most of the time that approach works wonders (it's got several of his best singles on it), but Kaleidoscope Dream is a much more focused/accomplished statement
― Evan R, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
Kinda easy to forget what a miracle AIWIY was at the time, though. 2010 was the era of peak A&R interference, so for Jive to give a newcomer like Miguel a pass and let him release an album w/o marquee guests and a clear slam-dunk single was kind of remarkable. My initial impression of it was the label was basically ready to write it off (cheap packaging, barely any promotion, a shitty Nov. 30 release date, etc.)
― Evan R, Sunday, 10 December 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
No matter how good the rest of it is, those first three tracks definitely put Wildheart below Kaleidoscope Dream, especially as both KD and AIWIY start off with such perfect statements of intent. The debut doesn't even feel of a piece with the rest of them any more but there's a marked improvement in his voice between the first and second albums.
I like War & Leisure but I'm not convinced it's up there with the others - it's at least an intriguing development though, retaining the guitars and the live feel but moving away from the overt rock references. I actually want him to go further down the Latino R&B route he seems to be edging towards in parts of this, and it would make total sense for him to do that. If anything the new one doesn't quite differentiate itself enough from its predecessors.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
i like the first three wildheart tracks :\
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
as others have said he is stretching out his voice in lots of interesting ways on W&L and the lyrics on e.g. City of Angels are appealingly goofy but I just find myself playing a couple of (obvious I guess) songs: Pineapple Skies, Told You So, Caramelo Duro
― Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
considering i didn't like wildheart much and am not shaping up to be feeling most of this one either, perhaps it's time i finally listened to all i want is you. "sure thing" is still my favorite miguel single most of the time so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― dyl, Sunday, 10 December 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link
i like this when i listen to it but haven't felt super compelled to return. it has some of the fizzy effervescence of kaleidescope dream but not just the same magic. it's a good record tho & maybe it will sound better once it gets warmer.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 11 December 2017 00:00 (six years ago) link
also there are some good lyrics in here interspersed among all the gun as dick/sex as war metaphors
― J0rdan S., Monday, 11 December 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
I wish he would sing about hugs more often :(
― Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Monday, 11 December 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link
i think 'dud' was harsh; like this is obviously good music, i think my expectations of miguel are just high cuz i know what he's capable of and there didn't seem to be anything in that zone
― flopson, Monday, 11 December 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link
I actually want him to go further down the Latino R&B route
otmx1000
― flopson, Monday, 11 December 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link
I think if his had been his first album after Kaleidoscope Dream this might scan as a major disappointment, but this is about the same step down from Wildheart as Wildheart was from KD.
Big picture the guy has released four consecutive good to exceptional albums and is probably the most consistent R&B albums artist of the 2010s. Small picture this is p clearly his worst album.
― Evan R, Monday, 11 December 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link
the most consistent R&B albums artist of the 2010s
I'd say K Michelle is
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 December 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link
i would say dawn but R&B is open to interp
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
evan otm
― k3vin k., Monday, 11 December 2017 04:32 (six years ago) link
i'd say jeremih
― ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 11 December 2017 11:41 (six years ago) link
sassybeyonce.gif
― boxedjoy, Monday, 11 December 2017 12:13 (six years ago) link
point taken about 2010 being a bad time for r&b albums ever coming out but
"an album w/o marquee guests and a clear slam-dunk single"
"'All I Want Is You' is the debut single by American R&B recording artist Miguel released as the lead single from his debut album All I Want Is You (2010). The song features rapper J. Cole and was produced by Salaam Remi."
Cole was coming off a guest spot on Blueprint 3 and an XXL Freshman namecheck, among other signs that he was a "priority artist"
― maura, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
Cole hadn't had anything resembling a hit at that point, nor had he released an album. He was just an industry bench player; definitely not a draw with a halo effect.
― Evan R, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
Looking back at the chart history it looks like "All I Want Is You" was performing respectably on the charts around the time the album came out, so I may be relying on faulty memory, but there was something chintzy and rushed about the album's release. It didn't feel at all like the rollout of a star.
Just kind of seemed like in an era of aggressive A&R tinkering and shoehorned Wayne and Ross features the album slipped under the label's radar in some ultimately fortuitous ways.
― Evan R, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:08 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, December 10, 2017 8:29 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
itt insane posts
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 11 December 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
i'm guessing you're going with keef
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link
K Michelle, Fantasia, two albums worth of Kehlani -- I'm cool with any of them.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link
rihanna not doing too bad from that time period either
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link
yikes, low bar with some of these picks
miguel/beyonce solid contenders
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
which picks?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link
yours mostly lol
i dunno, i really like some of the music K michelle and fantasia have put out but i have a hard time seeing anyone making an enthusiastic case for them as artists of the decade. maybe i'm too out of step with the R&b consensus these days though
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link
who said anything about artists of the decade? I said they were the most consistent R&B artists of the decade in that they've made consistently excellent albums.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:10 (six years ago) link
ah yes my fault, fair enough
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link
at any rate these women ain't getting airplay beyond adult R&B and maybe late night play on regular R&B stations so they deserve any patronage.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link
― k3vin k., Monday, December 11, 2017
all good!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:17 (six years ago) link
A profile, in which the sexual assault allegation is raised.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
I believe her; given the circumstances, though, I find it hard to imagine this gaining much traction (unless of course there are more incidents to be unearthed)
― Simon H., Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link
given what circumstancesalso read all his quotes in that article as Russell Brand's character from Sarah Marshall it's too perfect
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link
i love Miguel but does every single song have to be about how he is about to have sex, i mean i'm glad he's having sex, but
― alpine static, Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:01 (six years ago) link
we're listening to the spotify eoy tracks playlist and a Miguel song came up and it was literally just Sexual Healing
― Cardi Acs (imago), Thursday, 21 December 2017 12:13 (six years ago) link
WAR & LEISURE is out on vinyl on record store day
― maura, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link
man this album flopped :(
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
"skywalker" was his biggest hit since "adorn"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
it's a great album
― Nourry, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
yeah I hear "Skywalker" on 99 Jamz (thanks, Travis Scott), but #29 in 2018 pop feels like #35 pop in 1981.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
DC go-go bands are all doing renditions of “Skywalker.”
I like his duet with Lafourcade on that song from Coco too.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link
i hear skywalker in public and that hasn't been the case for a miguel single since adorn
― maura, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link
yeah skywalker is in daily rotation on my iheart radio-owned terrestrial rap station
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link
#29 in 2018 pop feels like #35 pop in 1981
what does this mean?
― alpine static, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 07:23 (six years ago) link
only that uptempo R&B making the Billboard top 15 was as odd in 1981 as it is in 2018.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 11:21 (six years ago) link
sky walker isn't really what i want from miguel
pineapple skies and come through and chill are great though. the latter reminds me of voodoo-era d'angelo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link
every time i thought about miguel performing at the oscars i wished he was singing 'caramelo duro.' that is a jam and i hope it gets released as a summer single
― maura, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link
OTM. Album's best chorus too.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link
lmfao he has just released his own "it ain't me"
― dyl, Friday, 16 March 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link
saw miguel on monday night and 'caramelo duro' ended his main set, which gives me hope for its summer jam status. also he dropped one of the songs from the just can't get enough polls into 'do you' and it was sublime
he also released a spanish version of 'sky walker'
https://open.spotify.com/album/10mIDi29wQw0dbRH83seWe
― maura, Friday, 23 March 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link
REGALAME UN POCO DE AZUUUUUCAR
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link
this is nice, although chorus lyrics are lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U55KzJek4dw
― Roz, Sunday, 10 June 2018 12:30 (five years ago) link
"come thru and chill" is so good, i consider it miguel canon. they actually play it on the radio too
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 June 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link
I heard it on the radio today! I had no idea it was that popular.
― billstevejim, Sunday, 24 June 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link
He wandered onto and off the BET Awards stage last night to do short contributions to Meek Mill's new "Stay Woke" song. His voice was great
― curmudgeon, Monday, 25 June 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link
feature on the goldlink song is not bad
― ||||||||, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link
i see i posted this one month ago but i love hearing "come thru and chill"... even the j cole verses don't bother me anymore. classic song to me.
this performance on colbert from a while back was so dope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mHsDNKhVjg
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 12 July 2018 05:28 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYo-eDzq9Rc
new one's nice, apparently more songs are coming this year too
― ufo, Friday, 27 July 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l48DPVyuGoA
legit one of my favorite rhcp songs lol. he made it even lovelier
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
otmjust magical
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 July 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
that is a really lovely version
― dyl, Sunday, 29 July 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5dTMYOHedY
this is also rly nice
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 August 2018 05:30 (five years ago) link
christ his voice is insane
― ||||||||, Sunday, 5 August 2018 06:53 (five years ago) link
unreal
― k3vin k., Sunday, 5 August 2018 07:33 (five years ago) link
buried at the end of the CRAZY RICH ASIANS ost:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mc1utdbWH0
― maura, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:46 (five years ago) link
vote for a good time!!!!!
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
Miguel dropped an EP with (semi-)Spanish versions of five War & Leisure tracks. The most interesting one is title track “Te Lo Dije”, which is “Told You So” transformed into a mariachi (I’m guessing) “duet” with Flor de Toloache.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 6 April 2019 06:48 (five years ago) link
Agreed on that being the stand out
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 April 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link
new song, "Funeral"
https://open.spotify.com/album/4hOMIVFD0c1xFxwyEp5Nxe
― monotony, Thursday, 31 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
what’s with the last usher album ass artwork
― J0rdan S., Friday, 1 November 2019 01:51 (four years ago) link
I like the new song
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 1 November 2019 04:48 (four years ago) link
this is pretty cool, reminds me of the EP era
― J0rdan S., Friday, 1 November 2019 05:13 (four years ago) link
I thought he sang, "Do you feed me menthols?"
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link
not really into this
― k3vin k., Friday, 1 November 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
imo this rules
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 1 November 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link
I have no idea why Tainy is billed first on this track, he's barely on it, this is clearly a Miguel song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMSMtW00wwE
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 20 February 2021 08:40 (three years ago) link
Tainy is one of the biggest producers in reggaeton
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 20 February 2021 08:44 (three years ago) link
miguel over a reggaeton groove works surprisingly well
i would presume the credits are like that bc it's going to be on a tainy album or something
― ufo, Saturday, 20 February 2021 08:51 (three years ago) link
Yeah my bad, spoke too soon
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 20 February 2021 08:53 (three years ago) link
i hope there is a new miguel album on the way soon though, it's been a while
― ufo, Saturday, 20 February 2021 09:05 (three years ago) link
i like that
― dyl, Saturday, 20 February 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/miguel-announces-new-art-dealer-chic-vol-4-ep/ !!!
― ufo, Saturday, 27 March 2021 03:10 (three years ago) link
adc vol 4 is out here now and why did he feel the need to include that skit at the end of "triangle love"
― ufo, Friday, 9 April 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link
it's fine overall but doesn't really have me excited for a full new album or anything :/
― ufo, Friday, 9 April 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link
“Broads” sucks
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 April 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link
"triangle love" is great
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link
"broads" is, what, almost ten years old
why did he feel the need to include that skit at the end of "triangle love"
― ufo, Thursday, April 8, 2021 6:07 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
lmao he really did sample closer, hilarious
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 14:52 (three years ago) link
"...All" is top five Migs.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:02 (three years ago) link
i think all these new songs are really good
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link
it's also ... very much of a piece with the other art dealer chic eps
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 April 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link
adc vol 1 to 3 were from 2012 in the lead up to kaleidoscope dream
― ufo, Friday, 9 April 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link
the whole thing is nice, but "So I Lie" is superb
― rob, Friday, 16 April 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link
there's a video, though I was glad to learn the "dead frogs" thing at the start is not on the official EP lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl8U5djfWAs
― rob, Friday, 16 April 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
triangle love IS great but omg that ending makes it impossible to repeat listen to
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 17 April 2021 04:13 (three years ago) link
I’m usually very pro-drugs but Miguel is the sort of artist who I think would benefit from cutting down on them. Everything he has released since Wildheart sounds unfocused to me. Hell, even Wildheart sounds unfocused tbh.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 17 April 2021 05:28 (three years ago) link
is he a well-known druggie? I thought "Do You?" an affectation.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 April 2021 09:34 (three years ago) link
“Do You?” is about MDMA which he has admitted to liking. I can’t find the interview so maybe I’m mistaking him, but I remember seeing one where he sort of admitted having seasons of smoking weed daily before breakfast.
I mean they’re “soft drugs” so whatever but daily use sort of kills the recreational use of it imho.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 17 April 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link
almost 100% of musicians smoke weed every day
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 17 April 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link
ILX in a nutshell.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 April 2021 15:17 (three years ago) link
GHB in a capsule
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 17 April 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link
nothing about this, really? great track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96EuNdBFvhU
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 14 May 2023 23:38 (eleven months ago) link
Surprised we haven't mentioned the newfound success of "Sure Thing."
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 May 2023 23:50 (eleven months ago) link
not enough hours in the day to care about when TikTok discovers an older song tbh
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 14 May 2023 23:52 (eleven months ago) link
except when it's a great song
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 May 2023 23:56 (eleven months ago) link
do keep up:MIGUEL - all i want is you - POLL
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 May 2023 05:40 (eleven months ago) link
Multi-thread threats are the best.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 May 2023 09:21 (eleven months ago) link
I thought it was just a coincidence that I've heard "Sure Thing" whenever I've had the radio on in the car lately, because one of the top 40 stations here recently retooled their format to add more older songs, and so there are now two stations that play stuff like Ne-Yo and Usher on the regular.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 02:49 (eight months ago) link
it became a hit again this year, getting the play at top 40 stations it probably should have gotten 10 years ago. pretty much all such stations are playing it now, regardless of how gold-heavy they've set themselves up to be (tho yes, more stations are upping their ratio of throwbacks to currents lately)
― dyl, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 02:59 (eight months ago) link
yeah I figured that out after I looked at the Hot 100 for the first time in a while
― jaymc, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 03:22 (eight months ago) link
late on this but his new single with Lil Yachty is fantastic imo, might be my favourite track he's released in ages:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmRSjYiF490
― Roz, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 07:50 (eight months ago) link
i don't love it but it's a weird track (in an interesting way), especially the outro
― ufo, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 08:10 (eight months ago) link
yeah outro's my fave bit as well, love it when miguel gets weird
― Roz, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 08:17 (eight months ago) link
Not bad
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 21:56 (eight months ago) link
animal collective ass song lol
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 August 2023 02:04 (eight months ago) link
― ufo, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 02:17 (eight months ago) link
uhh I do not like this
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 02:27 (eight months ago) link
he's on a jessie reyez song that recently came out that's pretty nice
― dyl, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 03:58 (eight months ago) link