rolling punk/non-indie underground 2012

saw these dudes last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_-KlFbKQQE&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L42XjvqvCXs

Excited for the upcoming Retox/ Doomsday Student tour. Anyone know of Justin Pearson's book "From the Graveyard of the Arousal Industry" is worth checking out?

retox is like noise rock for fashion models

digging the new buck gooter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fumX6dtQVvw

man that is awesome

not into retox either but i'm almost never into that type of stuff

also i'm not a fashion model

retox is like noise rock for fashion models

wtf?

I dunno, they're good players I guess but there's a studied approach to what they're doing that turns me off. that artfully blurry shakycam can't hide their exquisite coiffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCzsqncj8Zc

haha, i thought that comment was related to their audiences, or the duration of their songs. JP does have impressive hair.

this show happened in pvd last nov, I wasn't here to complain about missing it but I know you can relate

The Oh Sees
Doomsday Student
Total Control
Child Bite
Dope Body

Total Control are from Australia, right? I've heard great things about them.

yeah they are doing it right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSplEYOqI7w

they are! and they are. saw them with grave babies and thee oh sees in seattle last november. one of my favorite shows of the year (not that i saw many).

that re: s.hell

dont know if any of you live in nyc but im playing a free show at lulu's in greenpoint tonight with some garage bands come say hi

Man, I love this Rational Animals record

http://katorgaworks.bigcartel.com/product/rational-animals-lp

It's free!

2011, and I just caught up to it. it's like the Pissed Jeans "my life is a series of petty humiliations" thing, but with more hardcore matinee arrangements. 26 minutes of dumb brilliance. "WHOOOO I FEEL ALRIGHT, I WILL SURVIVE". Gloria Gaynor for the stuck upstate set.

Are we going to be able to discuss Cloud Nothings as punk/non-indie underground once their new (amazing) CD gets reviewed? hard to imagine they will still be underground in a couple weeks.

we can discuss whatever we want!

I think Wichita put their stuff out in the UK so I kind of think of them as a mnstrm-ish indie band but no it doesn't really matter

best new (relatively) hardcore I've heard in a minute - LONG PIGS from Brooklyn who are just complete OTT chaos on their 7" - there is a lot of that kind of thing right now I suppose but they do it really powerfully

no relation to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZW04NmOf7g </LBZC>

Ah I just downloaded that off some blog - amongst 70 billion other things, but I might actually listen to it now.

the men just put all their out-of-print stuff up on mediafire

http://wearethemen.blogspot.com/p/discography.html

I'm not a regular to this thread, but I came across this. Don't know if you guys know of or even like it, but:

http://knifeyspoony.bandcamp.com/track/school-fire-pictures

I like how the singer sounds like he's just been woken up from a horrifying dream

dude who ran negative guest list zine out of australia died last night! RIP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SEge-g6mTu4

well, i guess no one else read that zine. it was really good!

i've been listening to the BROWN SUGAR "Sings of Birds and Racism" LP from last year a tonne lately. i didn't really get it when i first heard it, too chaotic or something and the vocals seemed too low in the mix--anyways, i'm glad i returned to it because it is a WILD WILD RECORD. i've listened to it maybe eight or ten times so far and it still not only grows on me with each listen, but totally fucking blows my mind EVERY TIME. it's like, super /punk/, too. unlike my other fav 2011 punk lp wiccans - skullduggery it's less likely to appeal only to the fan of hardcore punk; it's really fast and has breakdowns but it's much more a guitar rock record. it's got a lot of hot licks, every once in a while you can hear a saxophone (?) wailing away. i can't stress how important it is you dudes listen to this record. it's relentlessly creative, manic but not spazzy, full of surprises, totally over the top and addictive. and honestly the amount of ENERGY that is TRANSFERED INTO YOUR BODY when you listen to it is actually insane

http://feebleminds.bandcamp.com/album/brown-sugar-sings-of-birds-and-racism-lp

Anyone going to see The Men in London on the 23rd?

https://www.facebook.com/events/260350067367173

Probably, yeah

mega bummer abt BA ngl ;_;

xpost

Other stuff coming up which is punk-related in some fashion:

Agathocles (tonight)
The Lyres (next Monday)
The Authorities (27th Feb)
GiftGasAttack (15th Mar)

I will probably be going to all of those, money permitting

Oh yeah and anarcho-punk festival on first weekend of march.

the men are sooooo good

Is this referring to live show, or just generally? A friend is trying to get me to go see them (The Men, that is), but it would require travelling over an hour, which I don't really do too much any more.

oh just go

c'maaawn

I guess that is the answer!

i missed them live this summer actually, my band was asked to open but our guitarist was out of town and i forgot about it :-(

seeing them in a month or something, though, really stoked

feeling these new Slices traxxx http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2012/02/slices_are_stii.html

assumed "someone call fucked up's lawyers" in the comments was just some typical Brooklyn Vegan cretin child but um it's not as far away as I expected

i like this single by California X a lot

http://thesoundsofsweetnothing.bandcamp.com/album/sucker-mummy-double-a-side

Is the new thing inventing band names specifically for google?

Weird story:

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/bnp_chief_wades_into_city_bondage_punk_s_tribunal_1_2123362#.T0Ad-1BqtCQ.facebook

Mish Bondage from Sado Nation turns up in Scotland working for the BNP. Her current band just kicked her out of the band since this came out.

Woah that is odd

feel like I've read something abt that band having far right links or w/e in the 80s, not that that means it isn't weird

They also had John Shirley as a member. So thread connection with the Blue Oyster Cult thread there.

really digging the new ceremony record. the songs are catchy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNYVFDgM0HE

i like what i'm hearing from gary wrong

I like some of the Ceremony album but they seem to be deliberately inept at times?

horrible fest 2012 lineup (?)

HOMOSTUPIDS
SHOOT IT UP
CIDER
BAD NOIDS
GG ALLIN
ELECTRIC EELS
McSHITZ
HUMAN EYE
WHITE LOAD
FNU RONNIES
WATERY LOVE
HOMEBLITZ
FEMSICKLIVER
THE GUNS
THE HUNS
DARVOCETS
THE SPITS
VAZ
BUZZARDS LUCK
PUFFY AREOLAS
MOUNT CARMEL
THE MORMONS
GAUZE
The Hookers
Cheater Slicks
Mr. Quintron And Miss Pussycat
LiveFastDie
Darvocets
Gary Wrong Group
ET Habit
Puffy Areolas
Pleasure Leftists
Watery Love
Liquor Store
Claw Toe
Terrible Twos
Homostupids
Brown Sugar
White Load
Bad Noids
Obnox
Brainwashed Youth (Special Set with Four Drummers/four complete drumsets)
Plain Dealers
WET BRAIN
GRABBIES (REUNION)
THE MENTORS
LAYAWAY BUTCH ONE MAN BANDAGE
GORDON SOLIE MOTHERFUCKERS
CHEETAH CHROME MOTHERFUCKERS
LEATHER
HIROSHIMA PIGSMASH
BOMBBUILDER
GARY WRONG GROUP
FACTORYMEN
INTEGRITY (OG LINEUP)

LOL @

CIDER
BAD NOIDS
GG ALLIN
ELECTRIC EELS
McSHITZ
HUMAN EYE

shit, that's a hell of a lineup. fucking cleveland tho.

retox is like noise rock for fashion models

i vogued to their live show just for you E3!

listening to "rohnert park LP" by ceremony on spotify, assuming its the same band as posted above?

anyway it's good! real snotty!

yeah, rohnert park was their last one, new one is called zoo. "sick" on rohnert park is so great.

haha yeah the sick one has that classic brattiness, almost like circle jerks group sex or something (not really musically) but yeah i dig it

btw this isn't really kool dude underground hxc or noise punk or w/e but i have a big big soft spot for dillinger four big boned anthemic burly pop punk, and Blood Sweat and Beards does it great

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Blood-Sweat-and-Beards/108216532575735?sk=app_178091127385

attn: hoos

lolol that name is like the ultimate parody band name for that whole scene

haha yeah it's intentional for sure, one of the main dudes is the booking agent at the tr1ple r0ck soc1al club which is the bar that the D4 dudes own in mpls

retox is like noise rock for fashion models

i vogued to their live show just for you E3!

― sarahell, Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:50 AM (10 hours ago)

cool thx, how was doomsday student

Doomsday Student slayed. Three friends and I agreed that they are the best of the post-Arab on Radar-bands. We also agreed that we miss Arab on Radar.

yeah not to rub it in or anything but that AoR reunion was phenomenal, it's too bad those freaks can't get along

haha, yeah, that's what I heard from other East Coast friends

but i also want to put in a plug for the local opener at the Retox/Doomsday Student show -- they are a newish band called Stillsuit, all-female, a bit no-wavey, really cool.

I love Stillsuit! Their tape is so fucking rad! I caught em in Socal with Rind. Got some gnarly photos of them, too. I actually have a lot of underground noise/punk photos on my artist page, if you guys wanna check em out! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Graphic-Garrett/302014879820158

also, this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z4z55PAblw

lightning bolt put a 20 minute 4 track recording on bandcamp today, hit it while it's hot

http://lightningbolt.bandcamp.com/

This is the home of the official Lightning Bolt Practice of the Month club. Probably more like Practice of the Every 6 Months Club, but the plan is to post some of our best home recorded jams for your listening pleasure, or displeasure.

Stillsuit is a rad band name

would be even better if they actually wore stillsuits

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/Fremen-1984.jpg
this would be a good band photo

would see

dunecore

Yeah, badass look right there. I imagine a post-punky Mummies kinda thing.

In re dunecore, see also Weirding Module.

The band, Dunes, is awesome. I think they may be a little poppy for this thread, but theyre pretty good

video for Xaddax, new band from my pal Nick from Colossomite/Dazzling Killmen/Sicbay...album coming on Skin Graft!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEPqGpnfJZ0&feature=youtu.be

another song here

http://soundcloud.com/xaddax

I love Stillsuit! Their tape is so fucking rad! I caught em in Socal with Rind. Got some gnarly photos of them, too. I actually have a lot of underground noise/punk photos on my artist page, if you guys wanna check em out! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Graphic-Garrett/302014879820158

― Izzy Pod, Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:10 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these are incredible!

best new (relatively) hardcore I've heard in a minute - LONG PIGS from Brooklyn who are just complete OTT chaos on their 7" - there is a lot of that kind of thing right now I suppose but they do it really powerfully

― Touched By Angel Rangel (DJ Mencap), Monday, January 23, 2012 3:18 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is such a good record

Thanks, Flopson! By the way, Nu Sensae as a 3 piece: FUUUUUUUCK YES!!!!

I was kinda eh on them becoming a 3 piece but then I heard it was dude from mutators so

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/cube01.jpg

<3 mutators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qud54XKomlQ

oh look 3 piece nu sensae dinner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z_jHjzWx0M

mutators!!!

I saw them the other night with Surgeons, Nasa Space Universe, Crazy Band, Forever Baby, BRANES, The Garden, The Coltranes, and Meow Twins. Everyone but Crazy Band and Meow Twins fucking ANNIHILATED the evening. Meow Twins were good, but not as apeshit crazy as everyone else. Man, that show was a test of endurance.

Such a great set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlpajRP3RQc

I'm the one wearing the tin foil balaclava. Everyone was instructed to wear their foil

Looking forward to the new Steve Albini recorded Screaming Females:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ism4J7QvsZQ

CONGORATS are pretty kool tribal skronk from mpls, download new album Gay Patriot for free here

http://congorats.bandcamp.com/track/gay-patriot

btw has anyone seen Ed Schrader's Music Beat (dan deacon affiliate dude noisy 2 man thing?)...worth going out to see 2nite?

YES absolutely

omg albini recorded screaming females??

pretty excited to see booze riot & coke bust this weekend

http://boozeriot.bandcamp.com/

<3 ed schrader's music beat

did you go matt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twh5HfW9T20

has anyone heard the new fnu ronnies lp yet?

only heard the one track

http://soundcloud.com/load-records/fnu-ronnies-saddle-up

omg albini recorded screaming females??

Yep, "Ugly" out April 3.

i did got to ed schader's music beat they were pretty pummeling! (but kinda poppy at the same time!)

yeah they are weirdly equal parts noize abrasion and hummable accessibility, almost like some 80s LA new wave theater type band with the theatrical starkness and artpop

yow, psyched for new FNU ronnies & screaming females. can't watch the ESMB clip here, but will check it out when i get home. feeling super out of the new music loop here in tacoma. boo.

Anyone in the Bay Area should check out this new noise fest that's coming up called The Dissonance Party. The lineup is rad so far. Should be a great time!

confirmed acts so far:

Riververb (San Diego)
Pulsating Cyst (LA)
Kawaiietly Please (Santa Cruz)
Shortwave Surfers (Oak)
Darph/nadeR (Santa Rosa)
Das Blut (SF)
Nuclear Death Wish (Oak)
Xome (Sac)
Medicine Cabinet (Tracy)
Toe Ring (ex members of Chrome Genie) (New York)
Moe Staiano (Oak)
Lektricman (Oak)
Rubber Cement (SF)
Torn By Teeth (Inland Empire)
Liver Cancer (Sac)

this thread is funny because the tectonic plates of indie are shifting is this shit is becoming one of the major landmasses of indie

i dont think that's anymore true now than in like, 2007 or 2008

lol @ ex members of Chrome Genie -- that's like one guy

game changer

http://soundcloud.com/pj-crittenden/fast-songs-by-ryan-from

Puerto Rico Flowers is breaking up:

Puerto Rico Flowers are playing their FINAL show April 20th @ The Archeron in Brooklyn New York w/ Rosenkopt & York Factory Complaint.

this thread is funny because the tectonic plates of indie are shifting is this shit is becoming one of the major landmasses of indie

― caulk the wagon and float it, Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:35 PM (Yesterday)

yeah when I see child abuse or nu sensae or tinsel teeth on the front page of pitchfork I'll start to believe this

if you'd actually deny good, hardworkings bands the chance to reach bigger audiences, sell more tickets & albums just because yr like "ooh indie rock has cooties" that's profoundly stupid.

but i guess i dunno i'm from the 90s when bands like Cows or Jesus Lizard could sell out big clubs and shit so

it would be awesome if those bands got more attention! I'm saying it's not likely to happen.

but I guess I dunno I'm from the 80s when you couldn't say the words "butthole surfers" on mtv

not from the 2010s, when you can't print "pissed jeans" in the new york times

I mean, I know of a prominent noise rock label that was told last year they couldn't do a SXSW showcase because that type of music "didn't have a place here", and this was after years and years of hosting successful showcases

so it's not just some too cool for school fuck indie attitude on my part, from what I can see the engines that drive the indie media machine are just not that into pushing these types of bands

ok i agree w/that, ultimately i just don't think this type of stuff appeals to the hongro in ppl

Man, that's strange. They let small-stakes dudes from my town set up showcases, seemed like they let anyone who wanted to do it (and could find a venue) set up a showcase.

i think caulk meant like iceage, the men, total control, cloud nothings, and not the kind of bands you mentioned edward

i really want to like the Men more than i do, same w/cloud nothings

I still wouldn't call iceage, the men et al "major landmasses of indie"

boots on the ground perspective: 3 of the 4 bands you mentioned played PVD in the past 6 months and those shows weren't even in legit spots, while major indie acts are booking at the 1000 capacity clubs

this thread is funny because the tectonic plates of indie are shifting is this shit is becoming one of the major landmasses of indie

― caulk the wagon and float it, Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont think that's anymore true now than in like, 2007 or 2008

― flopson, Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, assume caulk is/was referring not to the tiny little noise bands izzy mentioned, but to the kind of stuff generally discussed in this thread (pissed jeans, for instance). and i agree that it's one of the major landmasses in indie. but i disagree that this is the result of any recent "becoming". indie rock and noisy punk shit have been closely related since the 80s, since indie came into being. that relationship waxes and wanes, comes in and out of focus, but it's never ceased to exist.

yeah - like wasn't Jesus Lizard and that Albini stuff a major part of what constituted indie when that term first started being used?

british ppl have established that indie rock started with the release of oasis's "definitely maybe" iirc

i also disagree that it is a major indie landfill or that it's only now becoming so. like to me this thread isn't about a certain aesthetic that is or isn't absorbed by indie but the shitty bands i like that probably won't ever be

yeah, but you like iceage, the men, ty segall, circle pit, sic alps, labels like ss, etc. lot of that stuff exists at the intersection of punk & indie (in my mind, anyway), which makes the thread title kind of funny.

yeah i definitely like all that shit, just that's what the "non-indie underground" means to me

embrace the indie

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/148/435569060_f3cfdef76f.jpg

haha i totally embrace the indie, dude. i mean, part of the reason i didn't keep "pitchfork GTFO" from last years' title is because i don't share that attitude. i was just saying that i feel like there will always be wonderful punk bands who are shitty enough that no one will care about them & so no matter how much of it is absorbed by indie media there will always be something to keep this thread going

oh yeah, troo

I always assumed "P4K gtfo" or whatever was more or less a joke anyway, if ppl are that scared of their cooties then they probably shouldn't post on a board with like half its writers

anyway talking of indie media this is my reviews column for The Quietus which went up yesterday, which I'm mainly linking to cos it has reviews of good shit that I didn't get round to yakking about itt http://thequietus.com/articles/08258-noel-gardner-straight-hedge-punk-hardcore

yeah pitchfork gtfo was a joek bros, you indie types are so earnest

being as old as mr contenderizer I agree w/ his take on indie starting out as a broad umbrella term. in the 80s it just meant bands on independent labels getting college radio airplay, which could be anything from black flag to yo la tengo. the distinction was mainly economic/distribution related, similar to the way any weird bands used to get thrown in a bin called "imports" at the record store no matter where they were from.

if I think about the evolution of the term, the roots go back to late 70s punk bands flirting with major labels - after the labels figured out they didn't know how to sell it and the punk scene discovered it could thrive without big capital requirements, they moved down separate paths. punk got extreme and unmarketable as hardcore emerged. then hardcore bands discovered pot and started getting weird (black flag, dinosaur, husker du, butthole surfers). what I dismissively called "jangle rock" was getting big as well (REM and their progeny - tho in truth I do like a lot of that stuff), a wing of the underground more influenced by the velvets 3rd album and 60s folk rock than the stooges and no wave.

by the mid 80s major labels started coopting the scene. I know that's a loaded term but eh, sympathies are sympathies. husker du signing to warners in 85 was the big turning point, once they went over the wall many followed. this excerpt from wikipedia sums up the cycle for the next 25+ years:

Flip Your Wig became the first album released on an independent record label to top the CMJ album chart, and at year's end, both New Day Rising and Flip Your Wig ranked in the top ten of the Village Voice annual Pazz & Jop critics' poll.

During the recordings sessions for Flip Your Wig major label Warner Bros. Records approached Hüsker Dü and offered the group a recording contract. The band felt it had hit a sales ceiling that it could break through only with the help of a major label. The promise of retaining complete creative control over its music convinced the band to sign with the label.[13] Mould also cites the distribution problems with SST as a reason for the move, mentioning that there would sometimes be no records to sign when the band would show up for promotional events.[14] Hüsker Dü was not expected to sell a large amount of records. Rather, Warner Bros. valued the group for its grassroots fanbase and its "hip" status, and by keeping the overhead low the label anticipated the band would turn a profit.

things got strange in the post-nirvana 90s as major labels snapped up anybody with indie cred, and this was when indie became a code word in certain circles for "biding your time until a major signs you". bands with no hopes of getting signed in the 80s (the wall keeping the rabble out was huge + insurmountable) were suddenly commercially viable. a lot of indie labels were now major label fronts, the same way huge beer companies started putting out pseudomicrobrews. I guess I could've saved a lot of typing and just posted this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwzxH1c3yk0

then the alternative/grunge wave crashed and the scene limped back to its basements and warehouses, and that's when things started getting interesting again to me. indie nowadays is a loaded term with a patina of aspirational baggage. from an 80s perspective pissed jeans and bon iver and sic alps are all indie bands. but if I was headed out to a pissed jeans show and a casual music fan asked me where I was going, I'd be doing a disservice by replying "going to see some indie band". cause they'd probably expect deer tick or arcade fire. you know, that jangle rock stuff. now beat it kid, grandpa's leg is asleep.

"going to see some indie band"

otm...

pissed jeans zinged in indie beef

i love calling pissed jeans and oneida "indie bands". and calling the arcade fire "a pig's rectum".

pig's rectum zinged in arcade fire beef

^ delicious if cooked the right way

lol

Bastard Noise was just added to the lineup of the Dissonance Party in San Francisco. If you haven't seen them before, they are a PUNISHING live act.

OTM on history of "indie" semantics: I distinctly remember one critic friend describing a band's sound as "indie rock" circa '00, and me replying that indie isn't a sound but a DIY business ethos--she was younger and from Portland. Not long after another Minneapolis friend put out the K-Tel Gimme Indie Rock compilation (about a third of which I'd consider punk), and I had to admit that the term had gained some general currency as a replacement for "college rock." Then it narrowed further as a bunch of bands came along sounding like Pavement and dressing like the D.C. Embassy kids (fashions brought to New York by Jonathan Fire*Eater, I reckon), so "indie" in the '00s came to mean '90s-hipster (read: ex-punk) fashions and '00s Strokes-y guitars.

I'd stuck to "punk" so stubbornly as an umbrella term for the whole independent music culture that I remember interviewing Mark Robinson circa '93 and asking him if Unrest was punk and him saying that word meant nothing to him. We used "underground pop" a lot in the early '90s to demarcate from the commercial ambitions of "alternative rock" and the perceived narrowness of "punk," and I still stuck to "indie" as a business description until critics started using it to describe bands on major labels. Now "independent" works just fine. By the mid-'00s my old '90s bandmate informed me he was into punk rock and disdained anything "indie," so I can see where the exclusive embrace of "punk" comes from.

But many punks (I'm thinking of another influential Minneapolis acquaintance) took it to ridiculous extremes: Suddenly anything that came out on Dischord after Marginal Man was indie-rock-not-punk by definition. When I saw Fugazi in 1990 at Turner Hall in Madison, WI, it was very much a punk show: same venue, cost, poster-style, slam-dancing, fashions, and by and large crowd as the one seeing Black Flag or Naked Raygun in '85. To me alternative, indie, undie, local-music, whatever scenes of the '90s were largely just the old punk crowd expanded by demographics (more kids every year) and embracing rap and metal more freely.

The revelation for me of getting into these threads and hardcore and Maximumrocknroll Radio over the past year has been to discover just how much great punk I've missed, partly because of my own prejudices, partly because traditional new-music outlets have ignored so much punk, and partly because so much punk has ignored traditional new-music outlets right back.

bastard noise hit and miss in my experience, you might want to also mention them here: rolling NOISE thread 2012

speaking of MRR, their review of the new FNU ronnies sounds like it was written by somebody thawed out after being cryogenically frozen in the 80s

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425667_10150680427351505_309957811504_8997503_472967158_n.jpg

lol, nice

new Slices is up on the label's bandcamp: http://ironlungpv.bandcamp.com/album/slices-still-cruising-lp

it's way grungier than the first album which I *think* they make work - speeds up in the second half but I get a Sub Pop-circa-1989 kinda vibe from it on first play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZa4lNTySX8

new skoal kodiak video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MztEjjCPLbA#!

that video is basically how I imagine minneapolis, ppl getting drunk, cars crashing in the snow, plows flipping over

my band was going to play a show with skoal kodiak last year but their drummer threw out his back and they had to cancel their tour. I was bummed.

ooh too band edward, they are quite a force of nature live.

people in mpls are way better drunk driving in snow than that

btw, another bunch of (former) locals Clipd Beaks have a new album out on Bandcamp:

http://clipdbeaks.bandcamp.com/

(was recorded around the time of their excellent album To Realize)

if it sounds like the set they played live a week or so back, it's kinda a different sound for them.

yea heard nothing but good things about SK live show

and not to speak ill of them, because i like the records but frankly i would say that they are one of those bands that's not going to ever be totally captured on a record IMO

that's ok I'm sure they'll make more money from playing shows to big crowds than they ever will from record sales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldR83aCcATM

cute!

...drummer

that's members of the hunches in high school

http://teenagelobotomies.blogspot.com/2010/05/marvelous-darlings-singles.html

the Slices album is pretty cool
the new Broken Water single is AWESOME

Looking forward to last year's Royal Headache album finally getting a US release.

great band^

happened upon a group on bandcamp called fake limbs. they're from chicago.

http://fakelimbs.bandcamp.com/album/man-feelings

also, that slices album is the shit.

i dunno where else to post this but new merchandise
http://katorgaworks.bigcartel.com/product/merchandise-children-of-desire-lp

ha i kind of feel like that fake limbs album is designed for me - local dudes, love the band name, album name, album cover, song titles. the songs could be a little better but i like it.

they kinda sound like rye coalition before they went totally led zep

dang they opened for bottomless pit here last week :( wish i had known

chris thomson from the monorchid/skull kontrol/ignition/red-eyed legends has a new band called coffin pricks
http://soundcloud.com/coffin-pricks

ooooh interested

sounds pretty good, maybe a little more straight-ahead than his other bands but i always like to hear him singing. i think he posted on ilx once to correct my spelling of his last name

man i'd like to see bottomless pit again

I love Chris Thomson, but the Red-Eyed Legends sounded kinda lifeless to me when I listened to it, which was not something I would have ever imagined from a CT record. Maybe my memory is harsh. Coffin Pricks sound alright so far ...

yeah i could never get into REL as much as skull kontrol or the monorchid

yeah i saw red-eyed legends too and they didn't do much for me

I think maybe they just weren't good. Whereas Skull Kontrol, The Monorchid, and Circus Lupus were great.

feel like his bands always start out strong and then fade pretty quickly, maybe that's why he's in a new band every couple of years?

Yeah, maybe so. Don't know much about the dude at all, just like the records from those bands. Liked the first Skull Kontrol a lot better than the second though, so perhaps true overall.

I know a bunch of folks who weren't into Red Eyed Legneds much I always liked seeing them and dig the records, though I am admitedly biased.

Heard some of the Coffin Pricks stuff and I really like, though again I'm pretty much a sucker for any CT thing

<3 skull kontrol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4ltm_EP4I

That whole record rules. Played the hell out of it when I had a radio show. Plus, it's got Rick Froberg on it!

Man, what does Andy Coronado do now? That guy's playing hits so many sweet spots for me. Was he in the Wrangler Brutes too?

he was

Thought so, thanks (could have looked it up I guess). Gonna go listen to some Coronado.

new band from chicago called Football, one guy used to be in some great bands in mpls

http://soundcloud.com/football-chicago

initially riff reminds me of A Frames but then it gets a bit more garage but it's cool

Football were sort of ridic metal-y when I saw them but I think they have "evolved" since then, natch

haha really weird

I think it was their first non-Super Bowl show and everyone(me)was really drunk so that might have affected my preception of it

had no idea the split cranium (isis, circle, pharoah overlord) record had dropped: http://splitcranium.bandcamp.com/

Speaking of Wrangler Brutes related bands, there's a new band called C.R.A.S.H. that has Dean, from No Age, Michelle from Mika Miko, Cundo, from Nazti Skinz, and Brooks from Wrangler Brutes/Universal Order of Armageddon. REALLY good project. It's interesting to hear people from No Age and Mika Miko play straightforward hardcore.

Re Fake Limbs:

they kinda sound like rye coalition before they went totally led zep

That description alone really makes me want to check them out. Thanks!

ha that's funny because i said the same thing on facebook and one of my friends was making fun of me for using "early rye coalition" as a helpful musical description

so this is old from 2008 but it is awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ir6wpQn-Rg

I watched that like 20x in row yesterday

XD

wow, that dishwashers vid is great. 2008? would have loved to have seen them.

I know, right? I was all fired up to book them a pvd show but apparently one of the dudes had a baby and now they're semi-defunct.

haven't listened to it yet but coffin pricks have a live set up for free download/streaming on epitonic: http://epitonic.com/

what do you guys think of the WHITE LOAD LP "WAYNES WORLD II b/w GODFATHER IV"

just to say that the grindcore band MRSA are fucking badass and remind me a bit of Capitalist Casualties.

yep.

what do you guys think of the WHITE LOAD LP "WAYNES WORLD II b/w GODFATHER IV"

― flopson, Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great album

in the process of watching that Dishwashers thing 20x in a row

Free live Coffin Pricks set to download... pretty into it:
http://epitonic.com/features/epitonic-saki-sessions/coffin-pricks-epitonic-saki-session/

wow I had no idea Epitonic was still going, I downloaded a ton of free mp3s from there... 11-12 years ago?

(also that Dishwashers thing is rad)

That Dishwashers thing rules! What was the story with those guys?!

from NYC, don't think they ever released anything, apparently they did record some stuff tho. now defunct but I'm trying to inveigle something.

yeah, i looked all over for any word of anything officially released, no dice

wow I had no idea Epitonic was still going, I downloaded a ton of free mp3s from there... 11-12 years ago?

lol me too - in fact I could've sworn I looked at that site a few years ago and it was frozen in 2003, either I am mistaken or they managed to reboot it recently?

chiming in love for that dishwashers youtube

hmm man i don't know if i can hang w/the vocals in screaming females

hmm ok maybe i'm getting into the vox, if i think in x ray spex terms kinda

love that album, had "rotten apple" in my head the entire day the other day

ok i am now completely charmed by screaming females :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul_K-wG28nQ

so whats been going on around portland/olympia/spokane/seattle? who should i check out from that area?

This may violate the 'non-indie'ness of this thread to some extent, but from Olympia, you should scope:

- Milk Music
- Gun Outfit
- Broken Water
- Weird TV
- Son Skull
- White Boss

Milk Music just played up the road from where I was doing a show tonight (in the UK) which obv meant I didn't see them - they have a groundswell of publicity on their side tho so it probly did OK

my show had a pretty crappy turnout but featured London ensemble WOOLF who are relevant to the parameters of this thread and were triffic in a no wave riot grrrl standup drummer Skinned Teen way

http://woolf.bandcamp.com/

I love the First Four EPs and lurve last year's "Rotten Apple," but am I the only fan who finds the production on the new Off! album a little... off?

I haven't heard the new Off!...as much add I loved the 7 inch box, and seeing them live, I kinda don't wanna mess with it....it was this perfect little blast from someone I'd never expected to care about again

Not sure I want off to be around like a career band

Yeah, totally! It was just this out-of-nowhere surprise thing; it would kind of be cool as a standalone curiosity. What's wrong with the production on the new one? I thought the Pitchfork review pretty much said "more of the same," tunes-wise.

I like the new one a good deal more than the EPs collection - there's very little demonstrable difference btwn them other than (imo) the songs on 'Off!' are better and earwormier

def going to check it out

their live show was amazing...the "encore" was the first 3 songs over again which was the funniest, they didn't know any more songs

also keith morris is so TINY!

They've got a '91-era David Yow effect on the vocals except annoying, and the drums sound muted. The sound on the EPs is something approaching punk perfection for me...

but I'll buy that the songs are better, will investigate further.

I happened to catch Coffin Pricks this Saturday in Chicago and can attest to their greatest in a live setting.

ha i saw them on thursday, chris thompson seemed kind of uncomfortable

He always seems uncomfortable, that's his weird charm I think

the Culture Kids full-length fuckin rules and you all should just download it.

Just heard the new White Lung and Grass Widow albums. Both are awesome! My favorite offerings from both bands, especially White Lung. This new album SHREDS, and really shows off their abilities as musicians. I also got around to the Neon Piss LP, and it's very good as well. Waaaay different than what I was expecting them to sound like. And yeah, I agree with Table, the Culture Kids LP is rad. I like the production on their last full length better, but I think the songs on this new one are way better.

will listen to that White Lung LP later and assuming it's as good as decriptions suggest grab a copy when it reaches the UK

came here to make mention of white lung but i see i've been beaten to the punch. album just dropped this week, i think. SHREDS is a good word to describe it, but it also doesn't emphasize how great the song-writing is. i find w/ a lot of popular hardcore acts these days, i can get behind the sound, but they really lack in the tunage department. not here. stream the LP here:

http://exclaim.ca/MusicVideo/ClickHear/white_lung-sorry_album_stream

they pelted us with rocks and garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbvyYdh3HvA

100 great punk/non-indie underground singles/youtubes

not sure where to post about this so I'll just put it here, really been liking the Tronics reissue on What's Your Rupture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKg9LA4pC8

"Loved Backed By Force" LP and the Shark Fucks / Time Off single

Hell yes, I love those Tronics reissues. Sic Alps tribute to Tronics 7" also good but not as good.

speaking of What's Your Rupture this band may be old news to some non-U.S. peeps but they just put out the Royal Headache record here ... so fucking good. search turns up some touts for it on last year's punk/non-indie/pitchfork gtfo thread but I never heard it until just now.

not crazy about the royal headache stuff - i like that they have a singer who can actually sing a little (good gimmick) but the songs aren't there

I really love it but also recognize that a lotta the regulars in this thread may not like Ted Leo and early Strokes as much as I do (and the bands that those bands are influenced by, obv)

that's kinda what it reminds me of but more raw and soulful

listening now, pretty good...like if the early oblivions were a power pop band

i'm really digging this royal headache!

i def hear the ted leo/pharmacists vibe in the songs

and though i'm so tired of lo-fi it sounds good on this one for some reason

I listened to it 3 times yesterday

the king tuff album has been scratching my pop-punk itch

Royal Headache is really good through the first few tracks.

the king tuff album has been scratching my pop-punk itch

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, June 14, 2012 5:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

was really excited for this after hearing "bad thing", but the rest of it sounded bad to me on one listen

i do not understand the fuss over king tuff

it's not particularly unique but it's very catchy - alone & stoned is my favorite

haven't heard much fuss about it. seems like a less obnoxious alternative to girls and jay reatard. listening again to bad thing right now. it's great.

Shit, I LOVE that new King Tuff album. The HAppy Birthday album he did on Sub Pop was totally underrated, too! "Subliminal Message" rules.

I've been listening to the Royal Headache a lot lately. It's very addictive. At first I thought the songs kind of fell off a bit in the second half, but even those are starting to catch on with me. I do think sometimes lo-fi can be an annoying affectation (see Times New Viking) but with these guys it sounds totally natural and is not really a bad production choice for this kind of music. I like the singer's totally unselfconscious way of embellishing the lyrics with old-school "oooh yeah"s and "baby"s.

I do think sometimes lo-fi can be an annoying affectation (see Times New Viking)

ha yeah i thought that too about TNV until i saw them live and w/o that they were a fairly sloppy unremarkable bar rock band

That's funny. I think I might like them better as an unremarkable bar band. On the albums I've heard, they sound like an obnoxiously recorded unremarkable bar band.

wtf guys what bars are you going to?

OK, more like an obnoxiously-recorded third-tier '90s indie band.

That's funny. I think I might like them better as an unremarkable bar band. On the albums I've heard, they sound like an obnoxiously recorded unremarkable bar band.

― o. nate, Friday, June 15, 2012 3:38 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf guys what bars are you going to?

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, June 15, 2012 3:44 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OK, more like an obnoxiously-recorded third-tier '90s indie band.

― o. nate, Friday, June 15, 2012 3:48 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbh in minneapolis and the bars i go to generally these are kinda the same thing

i do not understand the fuss over king tuff

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, June 15, 2012 8:54 AM (7 hours ago

last week the college station was playing king tuff nigh constantly (was in town for a local gig). And I was just wtf-ever

kingtuff/happybirthday/witch are all badass

Forthcoming River City Tanlines is rully gud. They might be "indie" now I don't know.

doomsday student/tinsel teeth tour coming at ya

July 20 - Rochester, NY @ Pussy Barrel 2 w/ Tinsel Teeth
July 21 - Toronto, ON @ Soy Bomb w/ Tinsel Teeth
July 22 - Detroit, MI @ Loving Touch w/ Tinsel Teeth + Child Bite
July 23 - Chicago, IL @ Empty Bottle w/ Tinsel Teeth + Oozing Wound
July 24 - Minneapolis, MN @ Nick & Eddie Warehouse w/ Tinsel Teeth + Hasps
July 25 - Milwaukee, WI @ Cactus Club w/ Tinsel Teeth
July 26 - Cleveland, OH @ Now That's Class w/ Tinsel Teeth
July 27 - Baltimore, MD @ Floristree w/ Tinsel Teeth + Dope Body
July 28 - Brooklyn, NY @ Death By Audio w/ Tinsel Teeth, Unstoppable Death Machines, + Sweet Tooth

Hasps = 2/3rds of Gay Beast

oozing wound = 2/3rds of cacaw

Pussy Barrel = 2/3rds of collective soul

doomsday student were pretty fucking rad when i saw them -- still makes me miss Arab on Radar tho

doomsday student = 3/4ths of arab on radar

i know! they're the best former-members-of-arab-on-radar band yet

just trying to keep the band math thing going

Was chinese stars ex arab on radar? I saw them in brooklyn once they were ok

chinese stars = 1/2 of arab on radar

Edward you are good at punk fractions

*math rock joke*

stream new white lung album

http://exclaim.ca/MusicVideo/ClickHear/white_lung-sorry_album_stream

New Bitch Prefect album on Bedroom Suck is great, here is the single/terrible film clip: http://vimeo.com/40087258

good song tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLA1FOnpft8

there were parts of your set at The Lab that were super awesome - the parts with more rhythmic junk percussion type stuff were rad.

Yeah, I kinda gave up on the rhythmic stuff halfway through, since the synths were kinda drowning out the percussion

Haha yes they were!

man i forgot i love this thread

Edward III - tell me about Ed Schraders Music Beat

i saw them they were good....imagine like noise dudes tried to form like a "beat combo" a la the monks...but it's sort of incredibly punishing live! but catchy and fun!

rad! will probably catch them on tour next month

yeah you won't be sorry. abrasive art pop, weird, short songs/short set. sweet guys too, chat them up if f you can.

saw locals and friends DISPLEASURE last night. live show is off the hook.

ed schrader's music beat tour dates

7/15/12 @ The Milestone – Charlotte, NC
7/17/12 @ Farm255 – Athens, GA
7/18/12 @ Drunken Unicorn – Atlanta, GA
7/19/12 @ Lamplighter – Memphis, TN
7/20/12 @ Maxine’s – Hot Springs National Park, AR
7/21/12 @ The Cavern – Russellville, AR
7/22/12 @ Lightbulb Club – Fayetteville, AR
7/23/12 @ Sound Pony – Tusla, OK
7/24/12 @ Hi-Lo – Oklahoma City, OK
7/25/12 @ Queen City Hall – Dallas, TX
7/26/12 @ Beerland – Austin, TX
7/28/12 @ Train Yard – Las Cruces, NM
7/30/12 @ Trunkspace – Phoenix, AZ
7/31/12 @ Downtown – El Centro, CA
8/01/12 @ Soda Bar – San Diego, CA
8/03/12 @ The Smell – Los Angeles, CA
8/04/12 @ Biko Garage – Isla Vista, CA
8/05/12 @ Thee Parkside – San Francisco, CA
8/06/12 @ Lobot Gallery- Oakland, CA
8/08/12 @ Tube – Portland, OR
8/10/12 @ Astoria – Vancouver, BC
8/11/12 @ The Funhouse – Seattle, WA
8/12/12 @ Red Room – Boise, ID
8/14/12 @ Rhinoceropolis – Denver, CO
8/15/12 @ Duffy’s – Lincoln, NE
8/16/12 @ Vaudeville Mews – Des Moines, IA
8/17/12 @ Turf Club – St Paul, MN
8/18/12 @ Quarter’s – Milwaukee, WI
8/20/12 @ Empty Bottle – Chicago, IL
8/21/12 @ Pjs Lager House – Detroit, MI
8/22/12 @ Now That’s Class – Cleveland, OH

hahaha this band rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYwKNxu_N70

really enjoying dipping through that youtube izzy pod posted

packaging for the Crazy Spirit LP is ridiculously good

next step, play the LP

lol all of a sudden i like king tuff

it's too late now man they were cool for only one week back in june

i'm liking them in a ironic retro way though....*checkmate*

can't believe the way ppl dressed back in june 2012, the things they ate

first king tuff album is wonderful

don't try to outflank me elitist!

I am enjoying everything by Psychic Feline right now. Are they this-thread?

Holy shit they played with Animals & Men in Portland. POOOORTLAAAAND!!!

psychic feline sound like some 80s NZ velvets throwback sure why not

psychic feline are from portland, they played at my old house last year opening for Nucular Aminals

The new Nu Sensae album is streamable right now. INSANELY good. The 3 piece lineup works ok on the old songs they redid. Not worse or anything, it just sounds exactly like the old songs, but with the lead parts played on guitar. The new songs though, are AMAZING! Highly recommended, and it should silence anyone who doubted if they would still be as good as a 3 piece.

I guess I could google but where

copied from the nu-pigfuck thread :

not pigfuck per se, but dope body's 'natural history' is giving me some cows/jesus lizard vibes - along with some flipper/melvins plodding along the way. and helmet's notion of groove, i guess?

tho, in this case the confrontational posture of some of these bands is put aside for some welcoming goofiness...

xp: http://exclaim.ca/MusicVideo/ClickHear/nu_sensae-sundowning_album_stream

thx

ha i saw them on thursday, chris thompson seemed kind of uncomfortable

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, May 21, 2012 9:22 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Saw them again a week or so ago and they were great, though w/r/t to Thomson he seemed distracted and unapproachable before they played and the second they got done he was totally normal, easy to talk, etc.

They forgot to bring any merch though so I didn't get a single

the standard quality of the recording here betrays how awesome this band were last night: http://marychrist.bandcamp.com/album/mary-christ

they're on a US tour, go see em.

also, agreed with Izzy re the new Nu Sensae.

in the new MRR, they give it a totally substandard review, and i totally almost want to write a damn letter. eugh.

MRR gave a substandard review, how unusual

naomi punk from portland! good stuff!

http://naomipunk.bandcamp.com/

Went to Power of The Riff yesterday. Finally got to see this AWESOME San Francisco band called COPS. Members of XBXRX, Death Sentence: Panda!, and Total Shutdown among others. Gnarly as all hell hardcore with the occasional synth thrown in. You can find links to their songs by clicking on the pictures on their tumblr. http://nobodylikescops.tumblr.com/ . The other bands that played were really good too. Retox killed, Bio Crisis were really cool post-crust from Mexico, and I had never seen Noothgrush live, and they were WAY more awesome and energetic than I expected.

finally saw Hasps (2/3rds of Gay Beast), and they are amazing

xp COPS is 2/3rds of Death Sentence: Panda!

naomi punk is great! seeing them in a couple weeks!!

new black pus out today

http://blackpus.bandcamp.com/

this Bits of Shit album is getting a bit of interest down here. Looks like they put on a pretty awesome live show!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22pPow8Lkf0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD165RDo2og

Black Pus is online only right now by the looks? I would spring for a CD(R) cos he packages em nicely

I like that he tweets as http://twitter.com/AhaFan88

I would buy most of these records based on the band names alone

lightning bolt's about to go on the road and have a new record coming out at the end of sept, so no physical copies of the new black pus, think he's just blowing off steam tbh

but he's got others in varying states of availability including one on load. that new one's pretty stupefying tho - "play god"!

also, all recorded on a tascam cassette 4 trk

it is bafflingly tricky to buy Load releases in the UK atm - they don't deal with any bedroom distros that I know of but they don't turn up in eg my local store either (and they used to)

there's probably some big online place that has em idk

are you in london? I know they switched distro's a while ago. amazon maybe? plus I think they take international orders on their website if you wanna order direct.

lightning bolt tour dates btw

08/21 Washington DC Rock ‘n Roll Hotel
08/22 Richmond, VA Gallery 5
08/23 Raleigh, NC Kings Barcade
08/24 Atlanta, GA The Goat Farm
08/25 Birmingham, AL Bottletree
08/26 New Orleans, LA Big Top Three Ring Circus
08/27 Houston, TX Fitzgerald’s
08/28 Dallas, TX Sons of Hermann Hall
08/29 Austin, TX Emo’s East
08/30 Santa Fe, NM Sol Santa Fe
08/31 Phoenix, AZ Trunk Space
09/01 Los Angeles, CA FYF Fest
09/03 Oakland, CA The New Parish
09/04 San Francisco, CA Rickshaw Stop
09/06 Portland, OR Hawthorne Theater / MFNW
09/07 Vancouver, BC Fortune Sound Club
09/08 Seattle, WA Showbox at the Market
09/10 Salt Lake City, UT Kilby Court
09/12 Denver, CO Rhinoceropolis
09/13 Omaha, NE Waiting Room
09/14 Grinnell, IA Grinnell College
09/15 Chicago, IL Empty Bottle
09/16 Detroit, MI Magic Stick
09/17 Pittsburgh, PA Lawrenceville Moose
09/18 Philadelphia, PA Union Transfer
09/19 Baltimore, MD Floristree
09/20 Brooklyn, NY 285 Kent
09/23 Boston, MA Paradise Rock Club

oh cool, they're playing New Parish in Oakland again. Rickshaw Stop is kinda bleh for a venue to see Lightning Bolt

hey guys. here are some tour dates for The Blind Shake. I command you all to go see them they are the greatest live band.

Thursday, August 23 Brooklyn, NY
Public Assembly
Duchess Says

Friday, August 24 Columbus OH
Double Happiness
Duchess Says

Saturday, August 25 Bloomington, IN
TBS

Sunday, August 26 Chicago, IL
Citybuild
Duchess Says (Montreal), Terrible Twos (Detroit), Fake Surfers

Monday, August 27 Detroit MI
Lager House
Duchess Says

Tuesday, August 28 Toronto ON
Lee’s Palace
Duchess Says

Saturday, September 22 Minneapolis
Ritz Theater

Friday, September 28 Nashville TN
The End

Saturday, September 29 TBA

Sunday, September 30 New Orleans LA
Siberia

Tuesday, October 2 Pensacola FL
Sluggo’s

Wednesday, October 3 Orlando FL
Will’s Pub

Thursday, October 4 Tampa FL
The Hub

Friday, October 5 Tallahassee Fl
Club Down Under

Saturday, October 6 Atlanta GA
E.A.R.L.

Sunday, October 7 Raleigh NC
King’s

Monday, October 8 Richmond VA
Strange Matter

Wednesday, October 10 New York NY
Cake Shop

Thursday, October 11 Brooklyn NY
Death By Audio

Friday, October 12 Bridgeport CT

Saturday, October 13 Providence RI

Sunday, October 14 TBA

Tuesday, October 16 Moncton NS
Plan B

Thursday, October 18 Halifax Pop Explosion Halifax NS

Friday, October 19 Quebec City QC
L’Agitee

Saturday, October 20 Ottawa ON

Sunday, October 21 Toronto ON
Parts and Labour

Monday, October, 22 Detroit MI
Lager House

Tuesday, October 23 Milwaukee WI
Cactus Club
________________

Wednesday, October 31 Chicago IL
Empty Bottle
Football, Outerminds, Paul Cary

Thursday, November 1 St. Louis MO

Saturday, Novermber 3 Austin TX
Fun Fun Fun After Party

Saw Naomi Punk tonight, they really brought it

Tinsel Teeth and their vocalist have parted ways. LAME up the lame!

nuthin lasts forever

Wiccans' 2nd LP, "Field II" will be available tomorrow from Katorga Works

here's a track - http://soundcloud.com/katorga-works/kw-018

tomorrow? hasn't it been out for a while? i bought a copy off them live earlier in the summer, it's good but not as good as the debut

iirc it's getting released by a Euro label around now so maybe that's it? I did mean to buy it when that happened

i'm in the band. the tour copies were 110 test presses that were done for tour because it wasn't ready in time.
these are the final copies.

it's out in europe on Hardware as of a few weeks ago.

brain tumors is some serious hardcore

http://derangedrecords.bandcamp.com/album/fuck-you-forever

it's been quiet in here... too quiet...

http://divorce.bandcamp.com/

love that there's a little kid running around in the crowd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSQyFx_u7lU

lol winning sperm party

going to see hank wood & the hammerheads next month :-D

yeah they're good them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esG22B5-Ozs

^ think i quite liked this lp iirc

Loving Divorce

child abuse killed it in pvd a couple weeks ago, hope they play a show w/ divorce if they come to the US, the flyer will look like a social services ad

great Nu Sensae show on friday at a squat in Oakland. Peace from Vancouver also played, killed it. their records sound kind of like Sonic Youth: http://peacevancouver.bandcamp.com/ . also, Straight Crimes (Erin from High Castle/Sister Fucker/Child Pornography with Brad from Huff Stuff Magazine) played and they're probably the best new Oakland band of 2012.

http://soundcloud.com/straight-crimes . they've gotten much tighter since these posts.

New Sex Church 12" pre-order ends today:

http://instantpleasure.bandcamp.com

Any of you guys have/hear the new Guinea Worms? I loved the 2xlp from CDR last time, but am seriously curious how they have gotten since then.

Since Edward suggested it...

Any love for Drunk In Hell here? Have knocked me sideways both times I've seen them, they might just be my favourite band in Britain.

http://drunkinhell.bandcamp.com/

yeah that's a nice little drunks with guns/flipper fixation they got there

Looking at their gig history, they've played very few times outside of the North East. I think they're in Glasgow at the weekend?

me and other ppl had some cloud talk going at the weekend about setting up a UK tour w/ them and other bands (specifically, ones featuring the participants) but idk if it would be that practical. they seem to genuinely not care about getting more widely known and have had a debut album planned for at least two years, plus a split single w/ Kilslug. but yeah they completely floor me

nu-kilslug still an unbelievable thing to me. played a show with them last year and they went 90 minutes, basically doing every song they knew because the crowd wouldn't let them stop. they also put out a pretty demented record this year, 11" red vinyl that plays from the inside out, in a hardcover leather sleeve embossed w/ gold lettering. the label's selling them at a loss, total labor of satanic love.

this is really great! like nation of ulysses meets joy division

Ex Nuns - Piss/Shit Mountain EP (i know...i know)

http://exnuns.bandcamp.com/album/piss-shit-mountain-ep

no apologies for scatology on the rolling punk thread

after I sent out a mixtape to my friends with music by a band named Diarrhea Planet on it I lost all compunction for that kind of thing... sounds pretty good

RIP pat dzieweczynski of TVBC, legendary underground band here in minneapolis, he was in the original 80s lineup alongside paul metzger and freddy votel (votel was later in the cows, now in skoal kodiak)....but they were amazing, still play sometimes w/different lineup...but definitely flew the flag for weirdo punk funk jazz post punk improv in the 80s

you can listen to their classic album Ex-Cathedra here:

http://tvbc.bandcamp.com/album/ex-cathedra

http://drunkinhell.bandcamp.com/

Okay I'm really wishing bandcamp had a built-in volume control right now. Goddamn.

I feel like a weasel asking this every year instead of keeping up with this thread, but are there any consensus best punk/emo/noise-rock/hardcore/post-hardcore albums I should be checking out this year before making my EOY list? I feel so out of the loop, and the recommendations I get here are always so good

hank wood & the hammerheads, fnu ronnies, and white load are probably my top 3 of the year

haven't heard new uv race yet but i'm stoked for that

I feel like a weasel asking this every year instead of keeping up with this thread, but are there any consensus best punk/emo/noise-rock/hardcore/post-hardcore albums I should be checking out this year before making my EOY list? I feel so out of the loop, and the recommendations I get here are always so good

CONVERGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJU2_Is3ou4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFWESHoTgE0

just stumbled across these guys but BITS OF SHIT from Melbourne are kicking my ass as I type, this is a late contender for best punk LP of 2012 I think: http://homelessrecords.bandcamp.com/album/cut-sleeves

loud monotonous knuckledragger bar brawl blooze punk. don't think I'm projecting when I say it sounds deeply Australian. this is probably gonna be silly expensive for me to try and buy on wax, I might just spring for the download

that sounds amazing

love the vox, just my style

haven't heard new uv race yet but i'm stoked for that

― flopson, Thursday, November 8, 2012 6:38 PM (1 hour ago)

ha I was just abt to ask if anybody's heard this yet

xp that album is awesome. There are some quality live vids on youtube of them, I posted a couple previously

That FNU Ronnies album is very silly. The Converge record is great; one of the few I've actually heard this year. That Bits of Shit album is a hoot, too. Exactly what I want from an Australian punk band.

Couldn't find the White Load album online (Googling it produced the expected problems). Know if it's streaming anywhere?

it was released by the record label "load" if that helps

i'm at work so i don't know if these streams are still live but giveitashot http://builtonaweakspot.com/post/20914579366/white-load-waynes-world-iii-b-w-godfather-iv-lp

i am seeing hank wood & the hammerheads tonight. is it true they killed a chicken on stage?

http://soundcloud.com/load-records/white-load-less-life

xp to evan

for marked men/bleeding hearts fans

Frozen Teens who broke up but just reformed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaSIeVRUR5M

ha bleeding hearts, i meant EXPLODING hearts

new STNNNG video from the upcoming album (recorded w.Albini & mastered at Abbey Road for vinyl)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc7AZMOO35Q

anybody heard the new tyvek

yep, love it.

this band WOLFBAIT from Ireland could go in rolling noise or metal equally reasonably but I think folks here will dig it the most. it's been streaming a few weeks but I think a tape now exists, physically. should be graduated to LP at some point, imo. really REALLY killer grindy industrial bleakness ffo Swans/Buttholes/Today Is The Day/Shit & Shine while not sounding much like any of em. good review by ILX's MacDara here: http://thumped.com/music-reviews/wolfbait-wolfbait.html

digging the wolfbait

p.s. rolling punk / non-indie underground 2013

Just saw the link to my review, thanks! Wolfbait is one of my favourite records of last year for sure; I'm sad I missed them play last night.