is it brostep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FCPpAIAKo0&feature=related

can this be a rolling thread

http://cdn.hipsterrunoff.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/800/IMG_2097.jpg

What would these people think of something like Craig David????

I see this was already posted on the dubstep thread. Those cobrasnake photos are blowing my mind.

boring dubstep is the new boring drum 'n' bass or the new boring trance for boring dudes, no? they can have it. god bless them.

have you heard "i need air" by magnetic man? that will blow your mind.

This shows promise.

if i were a boring dude i would listen to nothing but hardcore techno 24/7. i would have lenny dee tattoos. tattoos of skinheads riding dutch gabber dinosaurs.

I just don't remember drum n bass becoming so BRO-centric. The people into dnb, even as it became more popular always seemed to be on a crunchy-nerd spectrum as opposed to this.

I would listen to Skrillex over lol Wire chinstroke music like 2654 or whatever, tbh

'aren't you the guy that likes linkin park'

(just so nobody else said it)

duuuuuuuuuude

http://www.thedjlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/bassgasm.png

That flyer looks more like what I would expect (nerdy/crunchy).

(not serato)

read that as "BADASSGASM" at first

Hahahaha BASSTHOVEN

Also don't get why they've gone for a grindcore font.

i've met nerdy crunchy d&b dudes and they are still dudes. and kinda clueless about anything other than a really narrow area of boring stuff. maybe they aren't fratboys or whatever. i dunno. the common thread is a love for tedious dance music.

(not serato)

i would have more fun with the king of dudes in indiana probably. at least he likes house music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ToILoeut44

Master's Thesis level shit below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgAUCbYIqTQ

There's like an entire genre of youtube video discussing brostep vs. dubstep.

someone put up a good example of brostep. i'm willing to be swayed. i'm pretty dumb.

Comments like this make me want to love brostep: "There is true artistic dubstep like James Blake and Burial, while there are f.l. studio kids with no heart and soul in there music just trying to make the filthiest wobble." (from that youtube video's comment field)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEuFTBG0Rbg&feature=related

"I kinda took it there, and now everybody else has taken it too far. It's not heavy metal!"

omg the part where the dude goes "why 'brostep'? why not call it like... 'mainstreamstep', or something else ghey like that?"

I want to see someone take Scott up on his request and post a good brostep track...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vWQFHP3D0

"while there are f.l. studio kids with no heart and soul in there music just trying to make the filthiest wobble."

There's something in this that rings true for any producer in the "hardcore continuum." I suppose it's just tacky when it's a decade late, middlebrow and American.

I don't see Magnetic Man as brostep.

Brostep lyrics transcribed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDTzgpkBZyw

(do not watch if you have photosensitive epilepsy or a nervous disposition)

When I was growin' up in the '80s sometimes I'd drop in to the music store and check out the new synths I couldn't afford. There was always somebody already there playing the keyboard I was trying to get at, testing out its new sounds. Invariably, the guy sounded like he just learned to play. Invariably, a large chunk of time would go by before he'd give me or anyone else a chance to play.

That guy always sounded exactly like the first 60 seconds of that Magnetic Man track....

...rest of the song sounds like generic auto-tuned dancepop circa 2011.

I don't see Magnetic Man as brostep

Case for brostep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j53mfWs8JlE

This kind of shit is 99% of why I am hesitant to even venture near anyone local djing. More often than not, it's going to be dnb that tries to be haaaaard, brostep-style antics, or in the rare instance, fist-pumping trance-like stuff.

so this magnetic man shit can be summed up as "lol @ first drug experiences"?

wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up

need a latepass to the brostep party, not sure if he's relevant here but I just heard my first Deadmau5 track ("I Remember" Caspa rmx) and I gotta say it's fucking garbage, jesus, so lame

at least the "philthy wobble" bits of Skrillex are fun in a trashy way, though the autotune vox bits are just terrible buzzkill garbage

I had sort of assumed that dubsteb was going to stay slow and menacing and dark and was for melancholic post dnb nerds who read sci fi while listening to Burial and Boxcutter and Vex'd and that kinda thing, never predicted the birth of full on attention seeking "Dubstep Anthems" with bad diva vox and ecstatic fast synth rush bits and trance elements but I guess the dancefloors of the world and the highstreet shops have been full of comps of this kinda thing for quite a while

yikes

a lot of this sounds like stupid people drawing inspiration from the wrong aspects of Daft Punk, pouring on the softsynth tutorials from issues of FutureMusic magazine, and ta-da, brostep is served

is this brostep y/n?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-wxhFt8Vf4

youtube thesis guy should sample his ceiling fan

I had sort of assumed that dubsteb was going to stay slow and menacing and dark and was for melancholic post dnb nerds who read sci fi while listening to Burial and Boxcutter and Vex'd and that kinda thing

ha ha yeah this is NOT a direction i ever would have expected dubstep to go back when i was listening to and not really enjoying tempa compilations in 2003.

"lol @ first drug experiences"?

otm

then again i never expected american urban radio to sound like a 2001 mixmag cover-mount cd ten years later so

even kardinal offishall is making whooshy trance-step "club bangers" now :(

There are actually some really good tracks on the Magnetic Man album but only when they pretty much abandon dubstep altogether.

Post Magnetic Man a lot of the poppy stuff sounds surprisingly perky. Brastep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qORbkqdD58g

have to say, listening to max martin eurorave beats in the woods of massachusetts a couple weeks ago at a miranda cosgrove show was kinda inspiring. so, in theory, ancient lumpenprole rave sounds can work for me. heck, i love the new britney album. but most of this neu-dubstep is just as boring as most regular dubstep to me.

would totally go to a local moombahton night around here if there was one. there will never be one.

If I listen to the SBTRKT and Nero albums am I going to hate myself and feel slightly soiled afterwards?

there is a curious subset of punk-kids-that-into-dance-music-now that eat this up

Master's Thesis level shit below
There's like an entire genre of youtube video discussing brostep vs. dubstep.

? Clarke B., lunes 15 de agosto de 2011 21:07 (Yesterday) Bookmark

omg the part where the dude goes "why 'brostep'? why not call it like... 'mainstreamstep', or something else ghey like that?"

? swaguirre, the wrath of basedgod (bernard snowy), lunes 15 de agosto de 2011 21:40 (Yesterday) Bookmark

i'm dying

would totally go to a local moombahton night around here if there was one. there will never be one.

― scott seward, martes 16 de agosto de 2011 11:32 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't know, people everywhere seem to be jumping at the chance to get in on it. coincidentally where at?

i feel like this is revenge on all of us who were bitching circa 2003/2004 that dubstep needed to be "more pop."

either that or revenge on me bitching ca. 1999 to anyone who would listen that 2-step needed to be "more electro"

Haha we all get the music we deserve.

Around 2004-05 I was arguing that indie bands should embrace other styles of music and take production cues from house, techno and R&B and that's probably the single worst call I have ever made.

lol @ Brastep

I think this also belongs on this thread, as I think it's perhaps the "best" pop/autotune/diva/brostep/brastep jam I've heard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOri_2FLVEI

i think maybe the united kingdom should just take a break from dance music for a couple of years. take a bank holiday to brighton. soak up the soggy rays. read a good book.

We pretty much already did that from 2003-2006 except some arseholes took advantage of the lull to sneak dubstep through.

damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

nothing sadder than when i get a big box of records in at the store and its full of completely unloveable downtempo acid jazz illbient jungle garage dubtronica. ugh.

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damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

:'(

brastrap

love when i get a bunch of Loading Bay singles though. love that stuff! gotta catch them all! hi-nrg golden girls theme song my new fave.

tim, i'll get around to it. i'm always about 5 or 10 years behind. i get to everything eventually.

i actually really like "i need air"

It's really enjoyable MOR electronic music!

The Magnetic Man stuff, that is. Most brostep still horrible

it's also ridiculously fun to dance to, as you can tell from the video

...rest of the song sounds like generic auto-tuned dancepop circa 2011.

― Lee626

uh ... RONG

Love the synths on "I Need Air" but will never get how people could find that trademark Benga exhausted trudge beat anything other than wearisome.

Tempted to say it's one of the worst sonic memes in dance music of the past few years.

well you only have to worry about hitting the simple bum/bum/THWACK and then you can throw all type of flair around the synths and vocals, so it's actually super-fun and easy in that regard

does that make sense?

obviously if you remove the synths and vocals then it's boring as shit to dance to

Oh it makes sense but don't you find the rhythm actually sucks the enjoyment out quite a bit?

The trudge is much less obvious in that "Dub Me Crazy" tune I posted above which means I could see how what you're saying actually works (even though otherwise "I Need Air" is the better tune). There's something about Benga and people who copy him though which I find really dispiriting groove-wise.

I think the mixed 4/4 + 2/4 groove can be achieved in a non-callous way, it's just a lot of producers don't make it interesting

http://vimeo.com/27260633

~*~*muzik*~*~

wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up

― jaxon, Tuesday, August 16, 2011

could someone post this today, please? it's my birthday.

wow, that was "next level"

i just paid that skrillex clip in the store and rufus said "is that electric heavy metal?"

i can totally understand why you prefer "dub me crazy" tim but i honestly don't like dancing to r&b as much as dance music ... part of me just gets lost/bored without kick drums

les twins do the best job possible of making brostep seem awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G2JV_1RQoE

part of me just gets lost/bored without kick drums

personally i prefer dancing to stuff that has a little more space in the beat, too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

xxpost I'd prefer a good house tune to either really but that's obv.

too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

i think that really sums up the break between disco/rave and rap/r&b

too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

yeah i'm still reconciling my househead roots with not really caring about house anymore

with disco/rave you're actively trying to get to that trance-state, whereas in rap/r&b you're trying to hook up

personally i've always been a) in steady relationships and b) into "doing drugs" instead of drinking so it's been disco/rave for me all the way

See it's not the 4x4 in these tunes that bugs me but the way it's overlaid with the halfstep beat so that each cancels out the other's nuance.

I don't think it would occur to me to get "over" a 4X4 beat much more than it would occur to me to get over 4/4 time signatures - there is always sufficient variation possible within that framework. But the post-Benga sound really wants to make a virtue of not trying most of the time.

And I really liked a few early examples of this kind of beat, like Quest's "The Seafront".

i'm into drinking and trying to hook up with my girlfriend

:-(

no it's actually pretty :-)

haha i listened to the first youtube posted itt and now i feel like 'brostep' is just the less gay verz of early 00s 'club remix' hex hector style house music

"it's not right, but it's brostep"

wait what

Not sure about the Katy Perry remix but i quite like Noisia's Machine Gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAO-lzl3vVQ

alternate thread title: if you close your eyes does it potentially sound like it could be a segment from a rammstein show?

and here's this too for good measure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Waqn0jBG58&feature=fvwp&NR=1

SEXY DUBSTEP

^^ I was trying to remember where I'd heard that Noisia original track and I realized it's in Wipeout HD! Um, works pretty well there.

"sexy dubstep"

actually in regard to the moombahton mention earlier i sort of wanted to know if it was just random talking or specifically in reference to the misogyny talk around moombahton's image as of late (and thus relating it to the bro-ness, otherwise i don't usually stick dubstep and moombahton in the same camp). but didn't. THEN I DID

I'm going to have to agree with Tim about the base Benga formula really making things drag out. I'm going to have to pull out the classic "It was great the first thousand times I heard it..." line. :(

i like moombahton and i don't like dubstep. i brought it up cuz moombahton has bro elements. i don't usually think of them together either. i mean there are plenty of moombahton remixes that would probably delight a room full of drunken bros. maybe the bros are already down with it anyway. i don't go outside.

is brostep the moment when America finally explicitly gets into "electronica"? that would be sort of hilarious to me.

you mean not counting electronic pop and hiphop?

for whatever reason?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIz411TpMs8

Christ.

i need to go listen to a bunch of gabba to get this shit out of my system

there, now THAT'S how you pander to the masses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLwLzIwu_-4

crut, right, not counting electronic pop and hip hop. i'm talking about you know, far out soundzzz with no lyrics and 120 bpm

i can't take too much at one time but i like how the gaslamp killer will toss bits into a set for effect, alongside old breaks & psych etc.

honestly i think if this sound wasn't EVERYWHERE right now i'd be more amenable to this being the way dubstep finally pops itself out

i was always kinda hoping for a lenny dee/omar santana revolution in this country. alas, not to be. way better than friggin' atari teenage riot and still plenty noisy and metally and all that good stuff. i've spent many an hour watching lenny dee live sets in crummy looking hoodrat clubs around the globe. just not a strong enough network of bars/clubs/deejays to make it work/happen here.

uh, watching on youtube that is.

As someone who was pushing dubstep in 2006, all I can say is "I apologize".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmolnSHjHi8

crut, right, not counting electronic pop and hip hop. i'm talking about you know, far out soundzzz with no lyrics and 120 bpm

I'm pretty sure this will never happen. audience needs a narrative ie, words

There was some sort-of-brostep played between events at uh... the UFC match I went to.

damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

You should! It's kinda like moombahton, except faster (good) and British (jury's out). Tbh, I pretty much got into it in the first place bc it had similar beats to reggaeton.

I think I am apologetically down with brastep btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZdh13_bijo

audience needs a narrative ie, words

― that mellow wash of meh (Shakey Mo Collier)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGQVETVVGf0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY-Z6wm6TMQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_fSV6DXrUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09C8clJaXo

cf mark s - "techno is novelty music"

is brostep the moment when America finally explicitly gets into "electronica"? that would be sort of hilarious to me.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:57 PM Bookmark

Is this stuff really more popular here than Prodigy/Chem Bros/Fatboy et al were in the mid-late 90s? On its way, maybe, but Fat of the Land was a #1 album. While acknowledging that no one buys albums anymore, brostep doesn't seem quite on that level yet. It could get there tho.

trip step

trip hop step

hold on I'm working something out

triple dubble

knuckle hop

uggggggggggggggh

dude no

dudestep

#ripskrillex http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23ripskrillex

it is sad he was a brostepper

why does skrillex look like that

http://tardis1.tinygrab.com/grabs/783c103a9fc17632d66d424775ab9302f283e8f243.jpg

snowytherabbit john deadcorn
okay twetter bedtime, g'night #tybg #ripskrillex

#tybg #ripskrillex

there's karaoke and workout versions of "i need air" on itunes store

I'm sorry, it's been a long time since I've laughed as hard at a song as I laughed at that "ginger cunt" song. Hilarious. And not in a "so bad it's good" way, just in a fcuking LOL pathetic way.

Which? The cookie monst one?

LOL, sorry, yes. Officially called Ginger Pubes. Like I'm not going to listen to something called that, automatically.

Well, our Amb's styled herself as a 'ging defender' so..

some dude at work who listened mostly to awful barf-rock like Nickelback and Seether and dopey novelty stuff like "I'm a Barbie Girl" blasted "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" one day. When I asked him about it, he just epcalled it 'dubstep.'

I had no idea that dubstep was going mainstream here, so I was a little impressed.

my coworkers won't shut up about turntable and mention dubstep a lot. im the other day:

how goes? I'm trying to pin down the genre of an artist, he goes by "Burial" -- electronic artist from the UK, have you by chance heard of him?
Wiki says his genre is "ambient, dubstep, house" among other things, hard to pin down -- so was just curious.

i generally just keep quiet and act like i just listen to salsa.

Urgent and key question in this debate, what sort of profile do PENDULUM have in the US? Because I think it is now the law that every teenage boy in the UK must immediately get massively into Pendulum the moment he turns 15. They're like the new Green Day.

Pendulum = obviously not brostep but an important marker the the development of testosterone dance.

i don't know if pendulum stick out or anything or just fade into the rest of that general WOMP WOMP d+b sect that's a precursor to all this

for me i prefer pendulum than dubstep
mrdarkling924 2 hours ago

Coolest/Epic part - 0:28
andy255661 3 hours ago

@CitrusRyan This music should also be played when some1 dies... its got a 100% chance of reviving the dude! atleast I'd
1337vIKz 4 hours ago

the only bad thing about this song, IT DOESN'T GO ANY LONGER :(
AtoxicMidgit 5 hours ago

pendulum is the band everybody says muse is

pendulum has absolutely zero profile in the u.s., matt

i have to say though, i had a job a year or so back where copies of kerrang were always around the office, and i was both totally surprised and not surprised at all that one of the Worst DNB Acts of All-Time had transmogrified themselves into linkin park 2.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yKZNiPEA-Y

"this is filthier than fingering your sister and finding your dads wedding ring"

pendulum has absolutely zero profile in the u.s., matt

― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:56 AM Bookmark

My non-music geek, questionable taste-having best friend tried to put me up on Pendulum.

my arbitrary deciderer on questionable popularity

http://www.google.com/search?cx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=pendulum+%22killing+it%22

http://www.google.com/search?cx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=deadmau5+%22killing+it%22

HARD STATS

every time i see 'is it brostep' i think 'will it blend' and am left wanting an irrefutable test for brostepness

i have to say though, i had a job a year or so back where copies of kerrang were always around the office, and i was both totally surprised and not surprised at all that one of the Worst DNB Acts of All-Time had transmogrified themselves into linkin park 2.0

They are absolutely huge here now. No music has ever sounded more like the inside of a teenage boy's bedroom.

every time i see 'is it brostep' i think 'will it blend' and am left wanting an irrefutable test for brostepness

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

the Pendulum link would make sense to me, I can imagine yr Kerrang metal-listening teen digging Skrillex with Pendulum being your natural point in between. But I have no idea if that metal -> brostep continuum really exists, in the UK at least. And have only heard of Skrillex through here and HRO.

there is a curious subset of punk-kids-that-into-dance-music-now that eat this up

― fauxmarc, martes 16 de agosto de 2011 11:54 (2 days ago) Bookmark

i think it is the screamo / hardcore / crabcore fans who are already into noisy synth as it is

yeah, thinking about it the line between something like Hadouken and this stuff is practically non-existent.

anyway I love this thread because I always find this kind of overwhelmingly obnoxious music hilarious for some reason. See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfgQSiLthxI

But I have no idea if that metal -> brostep continuum really exists, in the UK at least.

it defo does. i think i mentioned on some other thread but i went to school with a guy who was like king of nu-metal who is now produces "filthy" dubstep and seems to actually make a living from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylVRGttEW4

oh gad

t/s: "filthy" vs "funky"

is it brostep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD7KFEczgfo

(nsfw)

Yeah, that's brostep, bro.

Who wants more bass in their face

oh man moonship thats p awesome

is it brostep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRKNP47-lDA&feature=related

can this be a trolling thread

sure

I want to hear a brostep cover of "Hobo Humpin' Slobo Babe"

is it brostep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNZ443TwORU

the name of my new band is Halfspeed Haircut

i'm pretty amazed that lincoln, ne has a d'n'b community but i guess when the dubstep community is so awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csl4cfTm3Ec

bassthoven ... is it brostep?

fucking... glowsticks!!?

i want to move there

That flyer looks more like what I would expect (nerdy/crunchy).

― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Also don't get why they've gone for a grindcore font.

― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:55 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i've met nerdy crunchy d&b dudes and they are still dudes. and kinda clueless about anything other than a really narrow area of boring stuff. maybe they aren't fratboys or whatever. i dunno. the common thread is a love for tedious dance music.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:56 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

analysis of flier fail

oh, francois.

Flyer suggests - sweaty, unwashed, too much time spent playing video games, only three girls in the club two of which are going out with the DJs.

This stuff is all very well if it actually does something interesting, but fuck me that MAgnetic Man album is as dull and predictable as hell. Plus I'm now allergic to Pendulum. Skrillex and Nero make me wanna take a potato peeler to my skin.

every time i see 'is it brostep' i think 'will it blend' and am left wanting an irrefutable test for brostepness
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

literally just came in here to post this <3
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;)

mag man is pretty predictable but still doesn't feel bro-y enough. like if skrillex was a night at the ZBT house mag man would be at like the ice hockey house on a chill beer pong night.

huh

This all explains why I went to this Hessle Audio thing in London this year and it wasn't very good and I felt too old and it was all guys 10+ years younger than me in neon rimmed raybans and polo shirts.

"will it blend" ?

haha this stuff has gotten my little brother into dubstep

for that alone, classic

why don't kids listen to gabber anymore, now that was quality music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLreo24WYeQ

xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l69Vi5IDc0g

haha

siiiiiiick

This all explains why I went to this Hessle Audio thing in London this year and it wasn't very good and I felt too old and it was all guys 10+ years younger than me in neon rimmed raybans and polo shirts.

― Jung Danjah (admrl), Friday, August 19, 2011 5:15 PM (5 hours ago)

me too! was that mid-June sometime? We stuck around for hours hoping that Ben UFO's late set would change things, then he cleared the floor immediately and gave up after about four tracks.

I would not normally associate Hessle Audio with brostep at all.

why don't kids listen to gabber anymore, now that was quality music

Hope you're not being ironic, but I def agree. Fuck it, if you want your dance music moshy and cartoonish, just cut to the chase and put some fuckin' Johnny Violent on!

Speakin of which:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYULxX_hDZ8

Think Planet-Mu tried for a bit of a gabba revival a few years back, but they made it too smart. Gabba's gotta be as retarded as possible to work properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFmfgeTSOJU

Hessle Audio = Brostep? Wow you guys must live very sheltered upper city lives.

I don't live any kind of city life I was just visiting! But the thing I was at wasn't all Hessle Audio DJs - I don't know who most of them were - but it was, if not brostep, generally pretty harsh and filthy, with the floor of 20-year-olds clearing when anyone (like Ben UFO) went for anything different.

yeah fair dos. i guess one's tolerance for this kind of shit drops exponentially once you hit 18.

i need to find whatever it is i said about not caring for house anymore and take it back
out to a shed and kill it
that was wrong
so
wrong

also is this bro or yankee grime or just rap or what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOxH3Bfa_3Q

Could Night Slugs possibly be considered brostep? I really want to like this song but I'm wary of how catchy it is. I'm on the horns of the hipster dilemma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9CqhrH_Rug

Yes, Merdeyeux. We were at the same thing.

I know Hessle Audio isn't really anything like this stuff, I was talking more about the vibe of this night, which Merdeyeux adequately described.

Hessle Audio is way too interested in rhythm to be brostep.

No Night Slugs is not brostep. Jeez, some of you have never been to the suburbs in your lives have you?

In other news, people are getting confused between dubstep and the Bomfunk Mcs these days it seems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDlif8Km4S4&feature=related

I'd be surprised if a Bro would even consider that Pearson Sound track (which is great btw) dubstep. Friend who came round and started playing me some of the crassest buzzsaw shit was completely unmoved when I played him the Hessle comp. They're such different sounds, it's a wonder they fall under the same umbrella.

^nice brostep, bro

xp

was assuming night slugs was a joke

- not from the music alone, but because they're one of the few um, forward-thinking or whatev labels that have interaction with the queer community which is significantly unbrolike brok

Brostep is just post-Caspa, post-Pendulum, made-in-a-flash, just-plain-bad dubstep with not much "dub" and not a lot of step - slowed down jump up drum'n'bass with wacky samples from action movies or featuring some TV theme or 80s hit crowbarred in there somewhere.

FTR I actually have (or had?) a fair bit of time for Caspa - he was one of the first to do this kind of hard-'n'-heavy dubstep, and that's all fair enough, especially since he makes it relatively interesting from what I've heard. But now there's an increasing amount of terrible stuff - peaking this summer. It'll be like the opening chords from the Cheers theme tune "unexepctedly" interrupted by "BBBOOOOOMM-beeeerrrrrr-BOOOOOMMM-beeeerrrr-Eeeeh-eeeeh-eeeeh wouldn't you like to get awa-BOOOOOOOOMM-beeeeerrrrrrrr-eeeh-eeeh-eeeh-And they're always glad you-BOOM BOOM WHEEEEERRRRRR". Anyway, stuff like that. I don't normally get annoyed about it but it changes people's opinions of what dubstep is, and kind of makes me embarrassed to say I like dubstep these days.

(sorry about typos - i have stupid hands)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blV0nFTOL_8

is the Nero - Welcome Reality album brostep or is it too smart to be brostep or what is the deal?

It's brostep.

but poppy brostep.

is brostep still "boring dubstep" or is all dubstep boring/brostep now?

what do you think?

that non-boring dubstep was post-dubstep before dubstep was brostep? could chuck wood.

now i get it

is there not non-boring dubstep that is neither bro-step nor post-dubstep? what about stuff like youngsta or distance?

i dunno, maybe stuff like horsepower productions or king midas sound?

Sully's album's worth a spin, although that's going into more 2-step revival territory. The new Zomby is surprisingly dancey and non-crazy

What about Various

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6O01mhbZWE

Silkie imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66V_TkwbgRA

2000F & J Kamata imo too

do you really like it is it is it brostep

bro

Haha I called a track I made 'Brodiestep' the other day.

xpost I'm wubbing it wubbing it wubbing it I'm wubbing it like this

shit is blowing up in my little corner of the world. my 13yo cousin is listening to skrillex. two co-workers have asked me in the last day for dubstep recommendations. i'm not sure if they actually want dubstep or if "dubstep" is the new "techno".

mexican kids at my school were jerking to dubstep today. they are dressed like the kids in jerk videos from LA except they have candy raver bracelets on their arms. one of them had "JERK 4 LIFE" and "M F DUB STEP" written on his hands

sorry, i should've said hispanic kids, they're not from mexico

"i'm not sure if they actually want dubstep or if "dubstep" is the new "techno"."

someone came in my store today and asked me i had a "dub or dubstep" section. so apparently dubstep is all things to all people.

it's all just a dub
bro

sign outside bar near my place:

"no cover, no lineup, no dubstep"

I'm wubbing it wubbing it wubbing it I'm wubbing it like this

http://www.mtv.com/photos/vmas-host-rewind/1646002/5122397/photo.jhtml

http://www.panspeople.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/zoo_downtown_julie_brown.jpg

skrillex was the vocalist for from first to last

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yG6iw7AeWE

i keep a mental tally of musicians that went from punk/hardcore to dubious/bad edm

- steve aoki was in this machine kills, good emocore, i liked them i mean they had a split with yaphet kotto and envy
- skrillex
- dave nada (coincidentally about to tour with skrillex, solo dj, member of nadastrom and coiner of moombahton) - bassist? in de nada, thrashy dc punk in the 90's, also good

lol i heard a dubstep remix by true tiger of that punjabi mc song. it started off as normal, the broke down before it would usually get going, and went into some metallic staggered version of the song. i like this stuff just cos its funny and i like how generic and brainless it is but i just forget it all instantly. at least the older OG brosteppas (SALUTE) had more attitude and darkness in what they were doing.

Hessle Audio is way too interested in rhythm soft to be brostep.

Whoa, I thought this was just an ILM joke name initially.

sad day for music when the brostep forum no longer exists

"known as hard and horny raw dong music for sweaty males to “bro out” to,

[to whom?]

http://www.spin.com/articles/new-rave-generation

"You can't put a fuckin' timeline on it," (Diplo) continues, "but what Skrillex does, it's really grassroots, man. The energy here at this stage is, like, 40 times bigger than what (David) Guetta 
has right now."

does diplo write for freakytrigger now

needs the magazine cover for full impact

http://www.spin.com/sites/spin.com/files/imagecache/huge_page_view/sites/spin.com/files/110912-skrillex-cover.png

sweet fucking christ

good on tiesto for staying relevant, huh

http://www.spin.com/sites/spin.com/files/110912-skrillex-6.png

yessss

See Skrillex perform and you understand why Deadmau5 -- the genre's most spectacular, or at least recognizable, act -- has anointed him with his magic mouse pheromones

hahaha

i really need to know what units stage energy is measured in

haha that article has the word 'brostep' in it

how the fuck is this article written by philip sherburne? I really hope this is a ridiculously edited online version!

if not, um... how do we summon him to thread?

this is a good idea for a cover story imo, tho it seems weird to lump tiesto in there, and maybe even justice

I liked the article but yeah the point might be better made if the piece were more Skrillex/Deadmau5/new faces and less Diplo/Tiesto

I went and listened to Skrillex's big hit. Y'know, for research. It's really bad.

yeah listening to it now... the central riff is pretty good imo but all the heavy bass dupstep stuff is terrible -- it could've been a great house song! oh well

It's like, you Google 'DJ,' (Tiesto) what comes up, y'know?"

psh no i just did this and spooky came up. and some news/realtime for medhi.

kind of reads like a "let's mention everything dance music-wise that sells in the US and order it by popularity and just kind of splat it all on the page with anecdotes to add minimal context"

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

how the fuck is dj spooky that subliminal kid on the first page of google results for "dj"?

yeah listening to it now... the central riff is pretty good imo but all the heavy bass dupstep stuff is terrible -- it could've been a great house song! oh well

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:54 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Ha ha, I feel totally the opposite, like I'm down with the wub wub noisy bassline part and I just cannot deal with the Auto-Tune "melody" part-

but maybe this is the key to his popularity, the having-it-both-ways thing is supposed to mean "something for everyone"? mostly I get a strong junkfood feeling that makes me want to turn it off- I mean if I wanted harsh bassy stuff then I would go for Taciturne, Vex'd, DJ Scud, old breakcore stuff, or like stuff with good sound design like Errorsmith or Emptyset. This is just not for me. But don't the kids just love it . . .

kind of reads like a "let's mention everything dance music-wise that sells in the US and order it by popularity and just kind of splat it all on the page with anecdotes to add minimal context"

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

― mh, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:58 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

you may have missed this key element: [Magazine Excerpt]

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

― mh, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:58 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

also these parts:

(see SPIN magazine's "Electric Mayhem," page 54)
(see "Second Coming," page 64)

excerpt usually means part of an actual article, as in.. this is an actual article that is truncated, usually not condensed

also neither of those (see) sections directly references a feature directly on any single artist

stage energy is measured in ergs brah

does brostep have any other tricks besides that vibrating bass butterfly thingy

that's like asking if house has tricks beside a thumping bass and smiling face

well, does house have any tricks beside a thumping bass and a smiling face

also wtf is this

After dipping his toes into dance music with last year's Diddy-Dirty Money project, he recently recorded an album with the Israeli tech-house producer Guy Gerber.

i'm glad that there's a delineation bw dubstep and brostep

i don't listen to either but i feel the need to be snobby about it

also wtf is this

After dipping his toes into dance music with last year's Diddy-Dirty Money project, he recently recorded an album with the Israeli tech-house producer Guy Gerber.

interview here
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/09/06/a-special-kinda-guy-getting-deep-with-mr-gerber/

I snobbed out on my sister-in-law on facebook. She was like "I love folding laundry to dubstep!" and I just hammered in on her: "why are you living in 2006? you should be listening to post-dubstep! joy orbison? mount kimbie? ever heard of 'em?"

I was kidding, but I also wasn't.

I mean, I don't even really listen to post-dubstep...

Should I?

Wait...Skrillex looks like that???

haha, that is what my friend said

Me to thread. What's posted online is, indeed, just an excerpt. And what made it into the mag is just a fraction of what I *originally* wrote; I think I wrote 12,000 or perhaps 15,000 words for a piece that finally ran at about 5,500. (I do have a tendency to be long-winded.) And no, there aren't features on Tiesto, Deadmau5 or Diplo, but hey, you gotta sell magazines, right? There are features on dubstep and EDC.

a strong junkfood feeling

Yeah - this is exactly the way to describe this stuff. In small doses it's alright I guess in a mindless way - as I've mentioned, I used to quite like a bit of Caspa & Rusko when they first came out. But this is very far removed from the G dubstep - it's jump-up d'n'b filtered through nu-metal.

I want to read the 12,000 words version

7,000 of them are just WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE

it's jump-up d'n'b filtered through nu-metal.

the vast majority of the under-18s i know who are into "dubstep" are also into nu-metal / screamo stuff w/ keyboards

similarly, all the people i know who used to listen to linkin park and pop-punk are now learning to DJ Nero and Flux Pavilion tracks.

7,000 of them are just WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE

-- is wobbly nothing but an over-played pejorative now? it used to be a valid/accept descriptor for a lot of bassier jackin house even before the blog/fidget thing happened but i saw this post and then there was just some lame twitter event post about "getting some wobbbly bass + dubstep in your life" so i wonder.

well it's sort of the biggest factor in brostep isn't it? my impression of the 'problem' with this stuff is that the wobble is the most important thing, the central part of every track, which makes me think of it as barely being music -- and i don't mean that pejoratively, but literally, like i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context. there's no depth or complexity to the music, not even an understanding of climaxing or coming down, it's just wobbly vibrations which could be a new experience for all those kids who've never gone to see loud bands play in small spaces. just a physical response to noise. of course i've never been to any of these shows so i don't know what my impression is worth, but that's a bit close to it right?

it's a bit close. i think the thing is that a lot of these kids *are* kids who often go see loud bands in small spaces, start to get burned out on the impact of drums/guitar/bass/screaming, and are picking up the same vibes from "bass wobble" that they might have in the past got from double kick drum or cookie monster vocals

i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context.

This is a valid reason to listen to music though.

Can't wait for the crabcore/dubstep hybrids

Wait, maybe we have them!

The bass at Stink Like Sock in Cambridge is stupendously loud. Never heard anything like it. It grabs you by the balls, then the throat, then the stomach - and those are just the first three notes of 'where's my money'. So yes, it's often quite literally a physical thing. I'm waiting for them to invent a speaker system that blasts soundwaves big enough to suspend people in the air with bass. Something that'll physically throw you in the air. I can see that being more fun for teenagers than a bunch of embarrassing dudes in boardshorts playing music invariably about how their parents didn't give them enough money or about how they've got too much money now.

i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context.

This is a valid reason to listen to music though.

― rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

oh i'm not saying it's not -- one of my favorite events is the high zero festival in baltimore largely because the pure noise experiments can have such a sensational effect on a physical level. i just have trouble classifying wobble wobble as "music" rather than "visceral experience that assuredly gets boring and bland after a few shows, right?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeyAeuoi4-E
Dubstep Hamlet)

where does this fit?

how not to be"

i just have trouble classifying wobble wobble as "music"

actually it's when they try to get "musical" that they get in trouble imo

Still waiting on the rise of footbro

I've never listened to brostep on speakers good enough for any sort of wobble-action to take effect.

http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/6/001/285/713/DV019_Jpg_Regular_514372.008_vintage_brown.jpg

Dobrostep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=124VzSLy7d0

I mean, brostep sucks and everything, but that's a fun jam to dance to.

That said, the chainsaw bits are completely unnecessary in the context of the song. Would have been better as a simple electro cover.

Oh wow, adult swim (Cartoon Network's for older viewers block of cartoons/shows shown late night) has a compilation they have tagged as "dubstep." They seem to have fallen on the not-brostep side of things. The not-dubstep side of things, too.

http://www.adultswim.com/promos/201109_unclassified/

adult swim + scion a/v/

scion has it's paws up in a lot of that scene.

I know, I instinctively cringe when I see that sponsorship on things but this is.... not mixed by some random dude and has some decent music?

I wasn't aware of what they sponsored now, but from past experience and being bombed by horrible promo cds I have a lot of preconceptions

not denigrating, just saying, it's a line-up i'd expect with scion's involvement. - the artists scion selects to do work with are pretty good and it's cool that they setup events/parties (albeit they tend to be underpromoted on scion's part at times). issue with promo discs is usually people consciously leaving their lesser work for them (can't blame them).

That's cool, I just remember some dodgy promo discs being thrown around when Scion first appeared as a brand to the point where there were stacks of them sitting in every record store, at every event, and you'd get two or three at a music festival.

yeah i can't really think of another company that's been as knee-deep in the sponsoring of electronic music. i remember when it first came out it was the offish "rave car" or whatever

Red Bull Music Academy!

EXCEPT FOR RED BULL MUSIC ACADEMY

they sort of gloss over as they same in my head "SHINY! RAVE!" when i'm not thinking about it

and actually i hadn't realized rbma has been around for as long as it has dealing in these kinds of (the non-bro-y) producers

Didn't Adult Swim have some sort of involvement with Major Lazer and Flying Lotus videos in recent times? That tracklisting does look rather good.

One of the Tim and Eric guys directed videos for both, I believe.

flylo got his first break doing bumpers for adult swim iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovL0VxzguEo

finally, a musical team-up we can all get behind

Someone I don't know on youtube just sent me a link to: "Laura Warwick - Losing You (Chill Dubstep Remix by S.J.P)"

Should I listen to it?

I have no idea who that is, what it is, etc.

it's no one big or anything just someone spamming their work out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt3HUulsf3s

it's no one big or anything just someone spamming their work out

Why me I wonder? I must have liked Katy on a Mission or something.

Am I the only person who finds it amusing that people are just now realizing that Skrillex collaborated with Korn, when the song's been out since April?

...there's certain things not worth bragging about knowing, that's probably one of them

James Blake grousing in pitchfork:

“I think the dubstep that has come over to the US, and certain producers-- who I can't even be bothered naming-- have definitely hit upon a sort of frat-boy market where there's this macho-ism being reflected in the sounds and the way the music makes you feel. And to me, that is a million miles away from where dubstep started. It's a million miles away from the ethos of it. It's been influenced so much by electro and rave, into who can make the dirtiest, filthiest bass sound, almost like a pissing competition, and that's not really necessary. And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women. I find that whole side of things to be pretty frustrating, because that is a direct misrepresentation of the sound as far as I'm concerned.”

who I can't even be bothered naming

strawman argument

there's this macho-ism being reflected in the sounds and the way the music makes you feel. And to me, that is a million miles away from where dubstep started

sissy argument

And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women

sexist argument

Sounds like an excuse for the weak, anaemic "blubstep" of his own album.

And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women

saying stuff like this is such a bad look

i don't know many dubstep fans irl, but it never really struck me as a genre that had an exorbitant amount of female fans

you know what, can a mod delete my last post and just replace it with this

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lobw3bQP7F1qec8vqo1_250.gif

i don't know many dubstep fans irl, but it never really struck me as a genre that had an exorbitant amount of female fans

of course it has (maybe not exorbitant whatever the quantifier for that is) but a good amount

also from what i can tell, girls really like stadium dubstep raves

james blake just offtm in general

I'd imagine Skrillex has more female fans than James Blake does. Granted, he obviously has a lot more fans in general

should expand the nomenclature of brostep to be less sexist.

sororostep

greekstep

campuslifestep

wubstep

chugstep

northern cali heads <3 nugstep

Feel like Blake was on the right track for a second and then totally lost it... Someone on twitter wrote that maybe dubstep is our nu-metal. But maybe it's more like metal, i.e. a broad genre with tons of shitty stuff and a few gems. And dismissing it entirely is like saying "I don't like metal (or electronic music, or rap, or whatever)". I mean, I can understand not liking any of it, but dismissing all of it because of bro-step icons like Skrillex, who are really just continuations of 2k5 screamo, is ridiculous.

could it be like saying "i don't like trance" because really i'm always fine with saying that

with this Skrillex/Korn collab I almost want to call it (or Skrillex's stuff at least) "mall-step" now

or tween-step, hot topic-step, nu-step, nu-wobble, wobble-core

tons of girls like metal and nu-metal.

tons of tween girls like metal and nu-metal

on an unrelated note, saw a twink wearing silver aviators, diesel jeans, a red bandana and a black t-shirt w/ LISTEN TO DUBSTEP printed on it in silver foil, in a crowded gay bar at 4 pm on a saturday. they were not playing DUBSTEP at the bar.

crowded gay bar at 4pm on a saturday is always going to bring some interesting looks ime

my ex-coworker's current fb status is "DUBSTEP ALL DAY"

he's a tech nerd

i'd rather listen to james blake than skrillex so i agree with james blake (i don't really like his music much)

there are definitely massive amounts of female dubstep fans, all born after 1990

also the whole "LISTEN TO DUBSTEP" thing is weird, because it really is all so interchangeable to just call it by its genre (LISTEN TO R&B) except what the people who listen to it think of as "dubstep" is just a tiny thing compared to everything that's ever used that name, w/r/t the range of sound etc it covers. weird to me how LISTEN TO DUBSTEP people have no idea who like katy b is, or any of the other major artists of the past decade. do brostep bros have any british presence or is it mostly america?

just started teaching sound engineering / music production to mostly 18-19-year-olds in Dublin. They are all into "dubstep", meaning Skrillex - several different students have recommended his stuff to me. Not sure what other dubstep they're into. they all wanna know how to make wobble basslines.

My class is 95% male so can't comment on Skrillex's appeal to female fans. James Blake on the other hand - he was standing beside us at the bar after his last gig here and there was a steady stream of girls approaching him/posing for photos etc

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lks8cu6wPT1qisd2to1_500.jpg

who knew that i would be pining for the days when tech nerds were content to listen to idm all day

Skrillex was the singer in some heartthrob emo band a couple of years ago. He's got his fair share of groupies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gn7lm4CFGg

BROCK OUT!!!!

puddle of muddstep is next level

lol was gonna say grungestep but ^

is there christian brostep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeqjmdHkrw

DJ Triune is the founder and owner of ChristStarr® Entertainment a Christian DJ Service out of Southern California and ChristStarr® Ministry, a Christian DJ & Outreach service out of Southern California.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/sep/29/skrillex-dubstep-interview

http://nndb.com/people/336/000026258/sg1-sized.jpg

saragilbertstep?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lscuvxXB8B1qkvtqmo1_500.png

yessss

checked out skrillex's wiki today and now he is apparently a complextro producer??

http://www.reddit.com/r/Complextro/

complextroll, complexbro, complexbrostep, etc.

What is Complextro?: A new genre that stemmed from 'electro'.This genre is complex, hence the name, with artists producing basslines/leads that are very intricate sometimes involving 8+ different synth sounds per 2 bar loop. Artists like Feed Me, Skrillex, Uppermost, Wolfgang Gartner and even Deadmau5 have all taken shots at producing it. (With Grand Results)

bullshit

nah that's no good

8+ different synth sounds per 2 bar loop

wow!!! :-)

a' cabrostep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcutAZHIiE8

re: complextro etc

i don't know if this was the board/thread in which i already mentioned how much wolfgang gartner is one of my favorite house producers ever, joey youngman! (aka mario fabriani, white collar criminals, frequent flyers, etc). it's like he spent a good half-decade or so banging out jackin tracks, got bored of only being acknowledged by house nerds and went for the money w/electo and bro-y stuff. he used to be all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULojxZpNhl4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itScDe1T9Gc

then at one point he was selling full packs of all of his samples and the next year was onto wolfgang gartner.

'complextro'?!?!

the worst

Brostep's got more in common with electro than og dubstep these days.

It's got more in common with drill and bass tbh

i've been told "OMG so good" "Whoa! this is SICK."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dJHP0brCnI

http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/intervention.png

"I only listen to classic jazz! Not stuff like jazz fusion and smooth jazz."

that tommy's theme wasn't entirely disagreeable

no wub wub wub, at least. reminded me of... the avalanches

that Noisa track = Michael Bay-step imo... Teal-and-Orange-step.

I think I've mentioned a couple times that Noisia isn't bad, based on the one track of theirs that was in Wipeout HD that the tune is space also linked in another thread

please tell me that's pronounced like "noisy-ah"

I think so? Or maybe like nausea only with an 'o' sound

i hope you say it like 'moesha'. also chris s otm, 'michael bay-step' is probably the future of this stuff

I feel as though friends and acquaintances Have been trying to shove Noisia down my throat like Cod liver oil in an orphanage these last few years. So far I've pretty much resisted because, well, it's a racket I'm never really in the mood for, but it's funny we're only just discussing this now.

Rusko's thoughts on Brostep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEuFTBG0Rbg

michael bay-step == pretends to have a plot, actually just hyperactive genre cliches replayed fast enough and poorly enough?

with heart-strings

relevant: http://criterioncollection.blogspot.com/2005/09/40-armageddon.html

(With Grand Results)

lmao

Some tweets from Snoop

SnoopDogg Snoop Dogg
Who's coming out to see the Dogg in the UK? might perform some of these Dubstep tracks snoopdogg.com/events/
5 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

SnoopDogg Snoop Dogg
Free Dubstep Mixtape i did wid @mistajam @dubstepla feat @12thplanet @FLINCH @Fluxpavilion and the whole DPG fan bit.ly/ph7q3f

lol, can now tell dad how 2 future he was really being when letting me borrow his doggpound tape in sixth grade.

how old are you? omg.

30 wut

also it was doggystyle, not out until 93 so i guess that's eighth instead

Family Force 5 (often abbreviated FF5, formerly known as The Phamily and The Brothers) is a Christian crunk rock band from Atlanta, Georgia.[1] They consist of Solomon "Soul Glow Activatur" Olds, Jacob "Crouton" Olds, Joshua "Fatty" Olds, Nathan "Nadaddy" Currin, and Derek "Chap Stique" Mount. They have released three studio albums, Business Up Front/Party in the Back, Dance or Die, and Family Force 5 Christmas Pageant, as well an extension album, Business Up Front/Party in the Back Diamond Edition and a remix album, Dance or Die with a Vengeance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp017eFimVA

haha, great find

omg dubstep cereal (is already here?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YpOw8o34BM

snoop has been on the dubstep train for like a year, y'all

crunch-step, part of this balanced break-fest

I'm hanging on to "brastep" for girly stuff.

Love that cartoon upthread. At this point people sniffily defending real dubstep are perhaps more of a problem than LISTEN TO DUBSTEP bros vomiting all over their computer speakers.

holy shit that weetabix commercial

I feel sorry for the DEFEND REAL DUBSTEP types not cause brostep usurped their thunder so much as cause they don't realize their music sux too.

what is "real dubstep" according to these types?

it doesn't matter.

yeah it does

nah it don't

inquiring minds want to know

It's a moving goalpost I think. There are people who defend the real dubstep of benga/skream from the rank broisms of skrillex et. al. but this strikes me as fairly narc of sd.

The cartoon is probably about people who miss the glory days of DMZ and nowadays collect Swamp 81 records.

i ask because there seem to be many def'ns of "real dubstep". is it skream? rusko? youngsta?

all are plying rather different trades these days

Agreed.

But in this sense it's not really any different to people talking about "real" house / techno / jungle / trance etc.

Perhaps a sign of a genre's maturity when this happens. A bit scary to think that the first officially-designated "dubstep" mix (that I'm aware of) is now almost 10 years old.

dubstep allstars 1?

Kode9 did a mix just called "Dubstep" I think in early 2002 - the follow-up to the excellent "21st Century Skank" mix which was dubstep avant la lettre.

DA1 came out in 2004.

That was back when people were still talking about "yardcore" and "nu-dark swing" et. al.

first use of the term?

"dark garage"

http://www.udubstep.com/the-history-of-dubstep/

They don't mention the mix but do refer to Kode9's radio show at that time.

Tim is right that the DRD kru carries various banners, but I seem to hear a lot of "Fuck Skrillex, I listen to Shackleton!", who is alright and all but zzzzzz

see that's interesting to me because i don't even think of shackleton as dubstep!

Well he's not really any more. Obv he was totally dubstep on his early releases.

One of the issues here as well is that you get a lot of people who have gotten on board with dubstep since 2008 or so and then have worked backwards to the earlier stuff so when they talk in hushed tones about Loefah and Mala they're like to be talking about "Anti-War Dub" or w/e rather than 2011 material.

In much the same way that people getting into dubstep circa 2005 were talking in hushed tones about Steve Gurley and El-B.

The difference being that the official history of dubstep has been so thoroughly prepared and documented (take a bow blackdown!) that a neophyte can pretty quickly get a historical perspective on earlier dubstep without missing the point entirely.

I haven't really heard Shackleton's recent material, but yeah, he was totally dubstep at least at one point.

People I heard associated w/dubstep, not pre-dubstep per se (like Horsepower Productions):

Various, Digital Mystikz, Loefah, Mala, Coki, Benga, Distance, Hatcha, Skream

Honestly, anyone who had a name ending in "a" and I kind of felt embarrassed about saying their name, but I'm north american.

Shackleton's always been "post-dubstep" or at least outer reaches. After crossing w/other material he veered off, imo.

"Roots of Dubstep":
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Ammunition-And-Blackdown-Present-The-Roots-Of-Dubstep/release/776211

Shackleton's always been "post-dubstep" or at least outer reaches.

Why would Shackleton's early material be any more "outer reaches" than, say, Mala?

I mean if the definition of dubstep is basically Benga/Skream/Distance, then, sure, but at that point I think my narc of sd point seriously applies vis a vis Skrillex etc.

But in this sense it's not really any different to people talking about "real" house / techno / jungle / trance etc.

or punk/rap/whatever the fuck else

start @ 4:28 for some troo broness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAOfu9_ZPBc

er, 4:26

(sorta NSFW)

I guess I might be extrapolating Shackleton's later stuff to his early ones. He kind of had the Mordant Music thing, then the Shackleton/Appleblim Skull Disco roadshow, right?

I mostly know him for his Skull Disco stuff.

so i was at the punk rock pizza shop, and looking at all the fliers on the wall, and buried in amongst 1000s of indie / punk / hardcore shows and 100s of indie / electro / hip hop i see two lonely DUBSTEP nights, both at the same club, a place on the edge of downtown popular with yelpers and style bloggers that programs "hip hop / reggae / funk / soul" or "indie / electro" or "house / tech house" every other night of the month.

the first crew is called SNIPAZ

the second crew is called MAYHEM

which do i go see?

SNIPAZ will prob have more girls & ppl on drugs but MAYHEM will prob be more of a spectacle

Someone put Shackleton over that "Sorry For Partying" vid.

a lot of the songs on this thread weren't on spotify, but here is a brostep playlist: http://bit.ly/rk0QC1
enjoy, bros. also what ever you do do not listen to the pandora dubstep station.

Thanks! I've been trying to recreate some chainsaw/brostep sounds in Reason as an experiment, and it's harder than it sounds. Some of those wobs are really tricky to pull off.

Last weekend, I dl'd a bunch of 2005-2011 era dubstep tracks off of the ilm "dubstep" thread. Then I dl'd Skrillex's BBC Essential Mix. Then I took them both out on some long car trips I had to take this week anyway. This helped immeasurably improve the dubstep experience for me because on my previous attempts to listen to it, I had just been listening through laptop speakers and those obviously don't capture the bass.

I liked them both well enough. There were a few places where Skrillex went off into real corny territory. I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.

The "actual" dubstep I picked up was a mixture of different styles, from moody, atmospheric stuff to brash, noisy, dancehall-ish kinda numbers. Some of it had a lot of spirit, some of it was intensely boring. Based on what I've heard so far, I don't think that I prefer it to most of the drum n bass I was listening to back in the 90s.

much of the dubstep I picked up was straight from this list:

dubstep

I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.

totally agree. And tbh I rather wide eyed 'filthy bass' brostep kids to the angry hardcore 'mosh' kids that were everywhere when I was a teenager.

ohhhhh, but they're definitely moshing to brostep :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_8gyCeXbw

poor attempts at moshing

for the most part, moshing has always been poor attempts at moshing. oblivious me thought that everybody would be over moshing now in 2011.

one would have hoped

psh says y'all

Nero totally fucked up "Crush On You" as my dope rediscovered 80s pop song of the year. :/

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/remaining-doors-members-record-with-skrillex-for-new-documentary-20111006

i

..can't

amazing

So I dunno why it took me this long, but Justice were a huge influence on this stuff, right?

yeah, I'm hearing some French house production technique in some of it

The first wave of carpetbagging dubstep producers were mostly escaping the death of DnB, the second wave were almost all people getting out of the ass end of electrohouse.

I'm guessing Skrillex is the latter, what with the hair and the "complextro" or whatever he calls it.

I find all of this pretty fun and non threatening really, when I was 19 I liked breakcore. Could totally see myself being into Skrillex if I was 19 too.

i can see being 19 but i know mostly late 20's / early 30's into it. eh, breakcore's fine.

everything about this from visual to track to comments apropos lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbPjiJ-4jMA

When Darkness Falls

1. Protocol X - Our Storm
2. Vex'd - Thunder
3. Distance - Koncrete
4. Emalkay - Gut Feeling
5. SPL - Lust
6. Lone Wolf - The Plague
7. Scarecrow - Snakes And Ladders
8. Aaron Spectre - Music is the Weapon
9. King Cannibal - Aragami Style
10. Milanese - Sight beyond Sight
11. Toasty - The Knowledge (vexd rmx)
12. Coki - Spongebob
13. 16Bit - Chainsaw Calligraphy
14. Reso - Armored Core
15. Skrillex - Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites
16. Noisia - Alpha Centauri (Excision & Datsik remix)
17. Pendulum - The Island (Statelapse Remix)
18. Plan B - The Recluse (Nero Remix)

When Morning Comes

1. Boxcutter - Gave dub
2. Burial - Fostercare
3. Caspa & Rusko - Rock bottom
4. Fat Freddys Drop - Cay's Crays (Digital Mystikz Remix)
5. Conquest - Forever
6. d1 - Sorrow rmx
7. Hell Science Dept - Getto
8. James Blake - Air & Lack Thereof
9. Mala - Alicia
10. Phaeleh - Lounge
11. Pinch - Qawwali
12. Reso - Onsen
13. Scuba - Dream
14. Shackleton - In the void
15. Skream - Dutch flowerz
16. Vaccine - Wishful thinking vip
17. Von D - Show Me (feat. Phephe)
18. vvv - émeute

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NCSThQHgvz0/TX1lXz26KOI/AAAAAAAAANM/MjDgh3G9Mt4/s1600/tumblr_lgdcmxy6HZ1qaqka2o1_1280.jpg

but surely hipsters don't like this kind of stuff

yeah, it's not very gud.

i think that's why the "brostep" label doesn't really work properly either. Aren't "bros" somewhere between jocks and hipsters in the US? See this kind of thing as a natural category for one-time nu-metal/emo kids who I believe wouldn't call each other "bro". Something like Nu-Step or Stepcore would be more appropriate, surely?

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbusf0NK6v1qe7oxqo1_500.jpg

It varies by area, but the general bro stereotype is a guy who uncritically loves dumb partying with male friends and has a generally dude-oriented view of life. There are jock bros, fraternity bros, hippie bros (lots of bros at jam band shows) and so on. Music that is kind of dumb and testosterone-heavy is pretty much prime bro territory.

No! Really?

well, it's not a term (or stereotype) that gets bandied around much in the UK as it does in other places, so in that context it makes sense.

ya rly

"bruvstep"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXHLybTW2dI

"I may have lost a few fights, but I will fuckin shoot you blad"

but surely hipsters don't like this kind of stuff

still struggling to see what the definition of hipster is today (my daily psa to kill the term already) but if it can still be applied to your typical striped-shirt, tank-top and rayban-wearing williamsburg beardo, sure a good number do. i'm under the impression that the friday night girls and boys party at webster hall is run by these types

Yeah, but out-and-out hipsters (surely a dwindling breed in this climate?) would be more interested in the more leftfield side of things (James Blake and what not).

Mainly lurk this thread but on the edge of my seat wanting to know what an "out-and-out" hipster is. Completely earnest btw.

well, whatever, i only ever really hear about them on public forums, so..

yeah i'm not sure. also lots are into both this stuff and james blake

also i do use the bro term negatively but i'm mostly joshing, my first years out of college i lived with 3 guys from different parts of ohio that did nothing but talk about the cleveland browns, one of them had no music at all bought/copied/pirated or otherwise, i learned about livin' on a prayer from the other guys via fist-pumping drunk singalongs at fratty fake irish bars, we're still best friends, did all of their weddings etc - i'll bro down but i just won't get my brostep on because it is worse than all of that other stuff combined. or i'm a baby and can't handle my faceeeeee melttinggggg

On the topic of bros...to me a "pure bro" is what you describe above. Basically if music is a part of their life it's on some classic rock tip with a dash of U2 or a few other alternative-era leftovers with no real interest in contemporary music of any kind. Indie/hipster bros are more on some "I did too many drugs at an outdoor Fleet Foxes show and I might go to Pitchfork fest one day but Bonnaroo is good for me now" game. Fans of "brostep" are more like holdovers/breakouts from the Dim Mak/Steve Aoki party-til-you-puke "hard electro" end of the spectrum. That's what I think of when I think of brostep/Skrillex/etc.

Some tracks have basically turned those saw waves into pluck-harmonic guitars. I've tried to recreate this in Reason and it's kind of tricky to get right without making a mess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx2nH2RJEAA

intellectbro

Some tracks have basically turned those saw waves into pluck-harmonic guitars.

the vibrato is the key, if you're talking about what i think you are.

brostep is between dubstep and stepbro in my mind

music for children of second marriages? shame (sic) no one's ever done a remix of this awful awful song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yERDDbP53Sw

Bubba Ho-Step

^^^ all time.

18:50
 
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added by Sanpaku

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaOsmHXpWq4

I'm late to the game but have been listening to Emika and Vex'd. What's my brostep quotient?

Not very bro-y, bro.

http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2011/09/james-blake-dubstep-classist-problems-modern-indiecentrism.html

I feel like James Blake is almost sensitive brostep. He is like a latter day sensitive indie dude in a masculine genre that bros can "be into" to get chicks.

the James Blake show i went to (to see my friends who were opening)....well, while the crowd was very straight and gross and lolcollege-looking, the bass....was....really....something else. motherfucker plays looooouuuuddd.

didn't brostep first appear to describe mount kimbie and maybe other such gentle gentlemen? back in my day...

No. Never.

http://soundcloud.com/doglatin/pukestep

I haf made the world's most horrible brostep tune.

Whiney has a new love

I listened to that Skrillex mini album and it's lots of fun!

Way to misspell KoЯn, noob Whiney

Just cause Kode9 is boring doesn't mean you have to torture yourself.

And Whiney gave me and some dude shit for thinking the new Primus album was not terrible!

haha, I just ran across this. THERE WILL BE DUBSTEP in my town of 100k, which historically has really only sustained top 40/hiphop/rock nights. The one gay bar in town just closed. :(

http://nwtekno.org/showthread.php?t=164654

I might go just for the lols.

i found myself explaining what brostep is to a friend last nite and the only thing i could think about was how ridiculous i sounded

I have yet to get a good picture of the dubstep night advertised on the marquee of an old theater in my neighborhood that has recently been turned over a couple times and repurposed as a concert/social venue. A scant ten years ago, it was a dinner theater. Now, it has hosted a variety of touring musicians and seems to have occasional dubstep nights (DUBSTEP on the marquee) and swing dance thursdays.

dubstep is everything now. we have a dubstep chip shop in our town. they don't even play dubstep in there.

we have a dubstep chip shop in our town

i have no idea what this means but i pray you are serious.

man this shit is invading my town, how do I stop it

don't trust anyone under 25

at least all the shitty country, terrible auto-tuned-to-hell rap music, and whatever the Black Eyed Pears are can be tuned out, but this pretty much demands your attention, determined to destroy your brain and give you FUCK YEAH! vibes without breaking a sweat

http://www.brobible.com/brommunity/story/brostep

http://www.factmag.com/2011/10/27/skrillex-and-the-doors-team-up-cover-miles-davis/

Didn't nobody wanna speak
Now everybody peepin out they windows when they hear me beatin up the streets
Is it brostep? Is it brostep?
That's what they say, every single motherfuckin day

http://www.stuffyouwillhate.com/wp-content/uploads/skrillex-tattoo-374x500.jpg

i found myself explaining what brostep is to a friend last nite and the only thing i could think about was how ridiculous i sounded

Hahaha. I love those musical conversations where you all of a sudden realize, "Fuck, I'm in waaay too deep here; how am I going to pull myself out of this one?!"