is it brostep?

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BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:28 (six years ago) Permalink

What would these people think of something like Craig David????

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I see this was already posted on the dubstep thread. Those cobrasnake photos are blowing my mind.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:36 (six years ago) Permalink

boring dubstep is the new boring drum 'n' bass or the new boring trance for boring dudes, no? they can have it. god bless them.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:37 (six years ago) Permalink

have you heard "i need air" by magnetic man? that will blow your mind.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:38 (six years ago) Permalink

This shows promise.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:39 (six years ago) Permalink

if i were a boring dude i would listen to nothing but hardcore techno 24/7. i would have lenny dee tattoos. tattoos of skinheads riding dutch gabber dinosaurs.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I just don't remember drum n bass becoming so BRO-centric. The people into dnb, even as it became more popular always seemed to be on a crunchy-nerd spectrum as opposed to this.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I would listen to Skrillex over lol Wire chinstroke music like 2654 or whatever, tbh

Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:44 (six years ago) Permalink

'aren't you the guy that likes linkin park'

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:45 (six years ago) Permalink

(just so nobody else said it)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:45 (six years ago) Permalink

duuuuuuuuuude

http://www.thedjlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/bassgasm.png

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:46 (six years ago) Permalink

That flyer looks more like what I would expect (nerdy/crunchy).

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:49 (six years ago) Permalink

(not serato)

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:49 (six years ago) Permalink

read that as "BADASSGASM" at first

dell (del), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Hahahaha BASSTHOVEN

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Also don't get why they've gone for a grindcore font.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:55 (six years ago) Permalink

i've met nerdy crunchy d&b dudes and they are still dudes. and kinda clueless about anything other than a really narrow area of boring stuff. maybe they aren't fratboys or whatever. i dunno. the common thread is a love for tedious dance music.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 00:56 (six years ago) Permalink

(not serato)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:00 (six years ago) Permalink

i would have more fun with the king of dudes in indiana probably. at least he likes house music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ToILoeut44

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Master's Thesis level shit below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgAUCbYIqTQ

There's like an entire genre of youtube video discussing brostep vs. dubstep.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:07 (six years ago) Permalink

someone put up a good example of brostep. i'm willing to be swayed. i'm pretty dumb.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Comments like this make me want to love brostep: "There is true artistic dubstep like James Blake and Burial, while there are f.l. studio kids with no heart and soul in there music just trying to make the filthiest wobble." (from that youtube video's comment field)

Clarke B., Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:17 (six years ago) Permalink

"I kinda took it there, and now everybody else has taken it too far. It's not heavy metal!"

Clarke B., Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:32 (six years ago) Permalink

omg the part where the dude goes "why 'brostep'? why not call it like... 'mainstreamstep', or something else ghey like that?"

swaguirre, the wrath of basedgod (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 01:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I want to see someone take Scott up on his request and post a good brostep track...

Clarke B., Tuesday, 16 August 2011 02:32 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vWQFHP3D0

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 02:52 (six years ago) Permalink

"while there are f.l. studio kids with no heart and soul in there music just trying to make the filthiest wobble."

There's something in this that rings true for any producer in the "hardcore continuum." I suppose it's just tacky when it's a decade late, middlebrow and American.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 05:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't see Magnetic Man as brostep.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 08:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Brostep lyrics transcribed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDTzgpkBZyw

(do not watch if you have photosensitive epilepsy or a nervous disposition)

misty sensorium (Plasmon), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 08:49 (six years ago) Permalink

When I was growin' up in the '80s sometimes I'd drop in to the music store and check out the new synths I couldn't afford. There was always somebody already there playing the keyboard I was trying to get at, testing out its new sounds. Invariably, the guy sounded like he just learned to play. Invariably, a large chunk of time would go by before he'd give me or anyone else a chance to play.

That guy always sounded exactly like the first 60 seconds of that Magnetic Man track....

Lee626, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:11 (six years ago) Permalink

...rest of the song sounds like generic auto-tuned dancepop circa 2011.

Lee626, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:13 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't see Magnetic Man as brostep

Case for brostep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j53mfWs8JlE

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:19 (six years ago) Permalink

This kind of shit is 99% of why I am hesitant to even venture near anyone local djing. More often than not, it's going to be dnb that tries to be haaaaard, brostep-style antics, or in the rare instance, fist-pumping trance-like stuff.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:51 (six years ago) Permalink

so this magnetic man shit can be summed up as "lol @ first drug experiences"?

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (six years ago) Permalink

wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up

jaxon, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:08 (six years ago) Permalink

need a latepass to the brostep party, not sure if he's relevant here but I just heard my first Deadmau5 track ("I Remember" Caspa rmx) and I gotta say it's fucking garbage, jesus, so lame

at least the "philthy wobble" bits of Skrillex are fun in a trashy way, though the autotune vox bits are just terrible buzzkill garbage

I had sort of assumed that dubsteb was going to stay slow and menacing and dark and was for melancholic post dnb nerds who read sci fi while listening to Burial and Boxcutter and Vex'd and that kinda thing, never predicted the birth of full on attention seeking "Dubstep Anthems" with bad diva vox and ecstatic fast synth rush bits and trance elements but I guess the dancefloors of the world and the highstreet shops have been full of comps of this kinda thing for quite a while

yikes

a lot of this sounds like stupid people drawing inspiration from the wrong aspects of Daft Punk, pouring on the softsynth tutorials from issues of FutureMusic magazine, and ta-da, brostep is served

is this brostep y/n?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-wxhFt8Vf4

the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:08 (six years ago) Permalink

youtube thesis guy should sample his ceiling fan

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I had sort of assumed that dubsteb was going to stay slow and menacing and dark and was for melancholic post dnb nerds who read sci fi while listening to Burial and Boxcutter and Vex'd and that kinda thing

ha ha yeah this is NOT a direction i ever would have expected dubstep to go back when i was listening to and not really enjoying tempa compilations in 2003.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:15 (six years ago) Permalink

"lol @ first drug experiences"?

otm

Aerosol, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:15 (six years ago) Permalink

then again i never expected american urban radio to sound like a 2001 mixmag cover-mount cd ten years later so

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:16 (six years ago) Permalink

even kardinal offishall is making whooshy trance-step "club bangers" now :(

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

There are actually some really good tracks on the Magnetic Man album but only when they pretty much abandon dubstep altogether.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Post Magnetic Man a lot of the poppy stuff sounds surprisingly perky. Brastep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qORbkqdD58g

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

have to say, listening to max martin eurorave beats in the woods of massachusetts a couple weeks ago at a miranda cosgrove show was kinda inspiring. so, in theory, ancient lumpenprole rave sounds can work for me. heck, i love the new britney album. but most of this neu-dubstep is just as boring as most regular dubstep to me.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

would totally go to a local moombahton night around here if there was one. there will never be one.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

If I listen to the SBTRKT and Nero albums am I going to hate myself and feel slightly soiled afterwards?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

there is a curious subset of punk-kids-that-into-dance-music-now that eat this up

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink


Master's Thesis level shit below
There's like an entire genre of youtube video discussing brostep vs. dubstep.

? Clarke B., lunes 15 de agosto de 2011 21:07 (Yesterday) Bookmark

omg the part where the dude goes "why 'brostep'? why not call it like... 'mainstreamstep', or something else ghey like that?"

? swaguirre, the wrath of basedgod (bernard snowy), lunes 15 de agosto de 2011 21:40 (Yesterday) Bookmark

i'm dying

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:55 (six years ago) Permalink

would totally go to a local moombahton night around here if there was one. there will never be one.

― scott seward, martes 16 de agosto de 2011 11:32 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't know, people everywhere seem to be jumping at the chance to get in on it. coincidentally where at?

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

i feel like this is revenge on all of us who were bitching circa 2003/2004 that dubstep needed to be "more pop."

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

either that or revenge on me bitching ca. 1999 to anyone who would listen that 2-step needed to be "more electro"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Haha we all get the music we deserve.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Around 2004-05 I was arguing that indie bands should embrace other styles of music and take production cues from house, techno and R&B and that's probably the single worst call I have ever made.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ Brastep

I think this also belongs on this thread, as I think it's perhaps the "best" pop/autotune/diva/brostep/brastep jam I've heard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOri_2FLVEI

the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:21 (six years ago) Permalink

i think maybe the united kingdom should just take a break from dance music for a couple of years. take a bank holiday to brighton. soak up the soggy rays. read a good book.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

We pretty much already did that from 2003-2006 except some arseholes took advantage of the lull to sneak dubstep through.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

nothing sadder than when i get a big box of records in at the store and its full of completely unloveable downtempo acid jazz illbient jungle garage dubtronica. ugh.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

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damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

:'(

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

brastrap

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

love when i get a bunch of Loading Bay singles though. love that stuff! gotta catch them all! hi-nrg golden girls theme song my new fave.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

tim, i'll get around to it. i'm always about 5 or 10 years behind. i get to everything eventually.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

i actually really like "i need air"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

It's really enjoyable MOR electronic music!

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

The Magnetic Man stuff, that is. Most brostep still horrible

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

it's also ridiculously fun to dance to, as you can tell from the video

...rest of the song sounds like generic auto-tuned dancepop circa 2011.

― Lee626

uh ... RONG

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Love the synths on "I Need Air" but will never get how people could find that trademark Benga exhausted trudge beat anything other than wearisome.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Tempted to say it's one of the worst sonic memes in dance music of the past few years.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

well you only have to worry about hitting the simple bum/bum/THWACK and then you can throw all type of flair around the synths and vocals, so it's actually super-fun and easy in that regard

does that make sense?

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

obviously if you remove the synths and vocals then it's boring as shit to dance to

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh it makes sense but don't you find the rhythm actually sucks the enjoyment out quite a bit?

The trudge is much less obvious in that "Dub Me Crazy" tune I posted above which means I could see how what you're saying actually works (even though otherwise "I Need Air" is the better tune). There's something about Benga and people who copy him though which I find really dispiriting groove-wise.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I think the mixed 4/4 + 2/4 groove can be achieved in a non-callous way, it's just a lot of producers don't make it interesting

shania law (crüt), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:01 (six years ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/27260633

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:09 (six years ago) Permalink

~*~*muzik*~*~

Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:10 (six years ago) Permalink

wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up

― jaxon, Tuesday, August 16, 2011

could someone post this today, please? it's my birthday.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:11 (six years ago) Permalink

wow, that was "next level"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

i just paid that skrillex clip in the store and rufus said "is that electric heavy metal?"

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:14 (six years ago) Permalink

i can totally understand why you prefer "dub me crazy" tim but i honestly don't like dancing to r&b as much as dance music ... part of me just gets lost/bored without kick drums

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

les twins do the best job possible of making brostep seem awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G2JV_1RQoE

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

part of me just gets lost/bored without kick drums

personally i prefer dancing to stuff that has a little more space in the beat, too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

xxpost I'd prefer a good house tune to either really but that's obv.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

i think that really sums up the break between disco/rave and rap/r&b

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

yeah i'm still reconciling my househead roots with not really caring about house anymore

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:21 (six years ago) Permalink

with disco/rave you're actively trying to get to that trance-state, whereas in rap/r&b you're trying to hook up

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:22 (six years ago) Permalink

personally i've always been a) in steady relationships and b) into "doing drugs" instead of drinking so it's been disco/rave for me all the way

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:23 (six years ago) Permalink

See it's not the 4x4 in these tunes that bugs me but the way it's overlaid with the halfstep beat so that each cancels out the other's nuance.

I don't think it would occur to me to get "over" a 4X4 beat much more than it would occur to me to get over 4/4 time signatures - there is always sufficient variation possible within that framework. But the post-Benga sound really wants to make a virtue of not trying most of the time.

And I really liked a few early examples of this kind of beat, like Quest's "The Seafront".

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm into drinking and trying to hook up with my girlfriend

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:26 (six years ago) Permalink

:-(

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

no it's actually pretty :-)

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

haha i listened to the first youtube posted itt and now i feel like 'brostep' is just the less gay verz of early 00s 'club remix' hex hector style house music

Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:30 (six years ago) Permalink

"it's not right, but it's brostep"

wait what

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Not sure about the Katy Perry remix but i quite like Noisia's Machine Gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAO-lzl3vVQ

Slice Me Nice (ShariVari), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

alternate thread title: if you close your eyes does it potentially sound like it could be a segment from a rammstein show?

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

and here's this too for good measure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Waqn0jBG58&feature=fvwp&NR=1

the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

SEXY DUBSTEP

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

^^ I was trying to remember where I'd heard that Noisia original track and I realized it's in Wipeout HD! Um, works pretty well there.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:13 (six years ago) Permalink

"sexy dubstep"

actually in regard to the moombahton mention earlier i sort of wanted to know if it was just random talking or specifically in reference to the misogyny talk around moombahton's image as of late (and thus relating it to the bro-ness, otherwise i don't usually stick dubstep and moombahton in the same camp). but didn't. THEN I DID

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm going to have to agree with Tim about the base Benga formula really making things drag out. I'm going to have to pull out the classic "It was great the first thousand times I heard it..." line. :(

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

i like moombahton and i don't like dubstep. i brought it up cuz moombahton has bro elements. i don't usually think of them together either. i mean there are plenty of moombahton remixes that would probably delight a room full of drunken bros. maybe the bros are already down with it anyway. i don't go outside.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

is brostep the moment when America finally explicitly gets into "electronica"? that would be sort of hilarious to me.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

you mean not counting electronic pop and hiphop?

shania law (crüt), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:58 (six years ago) Permalink

for whatever reason?

shania law (crüt), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:58 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIz411TpMs8

Christ.

errant flynn, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:09 (six years ago) Permalink

i need to go listen to a bunch of gabba to get this shit out of my system

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

there, now THAT'S how you pander to the masses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLwLzIwu_-4

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:14 (six years ago) Permalink

crut, right, not counting electronic pop and hip hop. i'm talking about you know, far out soundzzz with no lyrics and 120 bpm

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:15 (six years ago) Permalink

i can't take too much at one time but i like how the gaslamp killer will toss bits into a set for effect, alongside old breaks & psych etc.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:16 (six years ago) Permalink

honestly i think if this sound wasn't EVERYWHERE right now i'd be more amenable to this being the way dubstep finally pops itself out

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i was always kinda hoping for a lenny dee/omar santana revolution in this country. alas, not to be. way better than friggin' atari teenage riot and still plenty noisy and metally and all that good stuff. i've spent many an hour watching lenny dee live sets in crummy looking hoodrat clubs around the globe. just not a strong enough network of bars/clubs/deejays to make it work/happen here.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:31 (six years ago) Permalink

uh, watching on youtube that is.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:31 (six years ago) Permalink

As someone who was pushing dubstep in 2006, all I can say is "I apologize".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmolnSHjHi8

pattern loader, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:19 (six years ago) Permalink

crut, right, not counting electronic pop and hip hop. i'm talking about you know, far out soundzzz with no lyrics and 120 bpm

I'm pretty sure this will never happen. audience needs a narrative ie, words

that mellow wash of meh (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:38 (six years ago) Permalink

There was some sort-of-brostep played between events at uh... the UFC match I went to.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:42 (six years ago) Permalink

damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

You should! It's kinda like moombahton, except faster (good) and British (jury's out). Tbh, I pretty much got into it in the first place bc it had similar beats to reggaeton.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I think I am apologetically down with brastep btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZdh13_bijo

The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:48 (six years ago) Permalink

cf mark s - "techno is novelty music"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:49 (six years ago) Permalink

is brostep the moment when America finally explicitly gets into "electronica"? that would be sort of hilarious to me.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:57 PM Bookmark

Is this stuff really more popular here than Prodigy/Chem Bros/Fatboy et al were in the mid-late 90s? On its way, maybe, but Fat of the Land was a #1 album. While acknowledging that no one buys albums anymore, brostep doesn't seem quite on that level yet. It could get there tho.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

trip step

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:55 (six years ago) Permalink

trip hop step

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:56 (six years ago) Permalink

hold on I'm working something out

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:56 (six years ago) Permalink

triple dubble

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:00 (six years ago) Permalink

knuckle hop

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:02 (six years ago) Permalink

uggggggggggggggh

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

dude no

The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

dudestep

m0stlyClean, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 23:42 (six years ago) Permalink

#ripskrillex http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23ripskrillex

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 02:57 (six years ago) Permalink

it is sad he was a brostepper

mh, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 02:59 (six years ago) Permalink

why does skrillex look like that

max, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 03:08 (six years ago) Permalink

snowytherabbit john deadcorn
okay twetter bedtime, g'night #tybg #ripskrillex

The Reverend, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:35 (six years ago) Permalink

#tybg #ripskrillex

The Reverend, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:35 (six years ago) Permalink

there's karaoke and workout versions of "i need air" on itunes store

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:39 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry, it's been a long time since I've laughed as hard at a song as I laughed at that "ginger cunt" song. Hilarious. And not in a "so bad it's good" way, just in a fcuking LOL pathetic way.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Which? The cookie monst one?

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:54 (six years ago) Permalink

LOL, sorry, yes. Officially called Ginger Pubes. Like I'm not going to listen to something called that, automatically.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, our Amb's styled herself as a 'ging defender' so..

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 10:57 (six years ago) Permalink

some dude at work who listened mostly to awful barf-rock like Nickelback and Seether and dopey novelty stuff like "I'm a Barbie Girl" blasted "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" one day. When I asked him about it, he just epcalled it 'dubstep.'

I had no idea that dubstep was going mainstream here, so I was a little impressed.

gay for president? wiki texas! (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 13:55 (six years ago) Permalink

my coworkers won't shut up about turntable and mention dubstep a lot. im the other day:

how goes? I'm trying to pin down the genre of an artist, he goes by "Burial" -- electronic artist from the UK, have you by chance heard of him?
Wiki says his genre is "ambient, dubstep, house" among other things, hard to pin down -- so was just curious.

i generally just keep quiet and act like i just listen to salsa.

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Urgent and key question in this debate, what sort of profile do PENDULUM have in the US? Because I think it is now the law that every teenage boy in the UK must immediately get massively into Pendulum the moment he turns 15. They're like the new Green Day.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Pendulum = obviously not brostep but an important marker the the development of testosterone dance.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't know if pendulum stick out or anything or just fade into the rest of that general WOMP WOMP d+b sect that's a precursor to all this

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

for me i prefer pendulum than dubstep
mrdarkling924 2 hours ago

Coolest/Epic part - 0:28
andy255661 3 hours ago

@CitrusRyan This music should also be played when some1 dies... its got a 100% chance of reviving the dude! atleast I'd
1337vIKz 4 hours ago

the only bad thing about this song, IT DOESN'T GO ANY LONGER :(
AtoxicMidgit 5 hours ago

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:54 (six years ago) Permalink

pendulum is the band everybody says muse is

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:54 (six years ago) Permalink

pendulum has absolutely zero profile in the u.s., matt

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:56 (six years ago) Permalink

i have to say though, i had a job a year or so back where copies of kerrang were always around the office, and i was both totally surprised and not surprised at all that one of the Worst DNB Acts of All-Time had transmogrified themselves into linkin park 2.0

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yKZNiPEA-Y

"this is filthier than fingering your sister and finding your dads wedding ring"

errant flynn, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

pendulum has absolutely zero profile in the u.s., matt

― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:56 AM Bookmark

My non-music geek, questionable taste-having best friend tried to put me up on Pendulum.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

every time i see 'is it brostep' i think 'will it blend' and am left wanting an irrefutable test for brostepness

ice cr?m, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:00 (six years ago) Permalink

i have to say though, i had a job a year or so back where copies of kerrang were always around the office, and i was both totally surprised and not surprised at all that one of the Worst DNB Acts of All-Time had transmogrified themselves into linkin park 2.0

They are absolutely huge here now. No music has ever sounded more like the inside of a teenage boy's bedroom.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 August 2011 09:55 (six years ago) Permalink

every time i see 'is it brostep' i think 'will it blend' and am left wanting an irrefutable test for brostepness

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark


literally just came in here to post this <3

bernard snowy, Thursday, 18 August 2011 11:08 (six years ago) Permalink

the Pendulum link would make sense to me, I can imagine yr Kerrang metal-listening teen digging Skrillex with Pendulum being your natural point in between. But I have no idea if that metal -> brostep continuum really exists, in the UK at least. And have only heard of Skrillex through here and HRO.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:39 (six years ago) Permalink

there is a curious subset of punk-kids-that-into-dance-music-now that eat this up

― fauxmarc, martes 16 de agosto de 2011 11:54 (2 days ago) Bookmark

fauxmarc, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:22 (six years ago) Permalink

i think it is the screamo / hardcore / crabcore fans who are already into noisy synth as it is

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 18 August 2011 20:27 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, thinking about it the line between something like Hadouken and this stuff is practically non-existent.

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 18 August 2011 23:02 (six years ago) Permalink

anyway I love this thread because I always find this kind of overwhelmingly obnoxious music hilarious for some reason. See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfgQSiLthxI

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 18 August 2011 23:13 (six years ago) Permalink

But I have no idea if that metal -> brostep continuum really exists, in the UK at least.

it defo does. i think i mentioned on some other thread but i went to school with a guy who was like king of nu-metal who is now produces "filthy" dubstep and seems to actually make a living from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylVRGttEW4

oh gad

a fan of the juiceman (tpp), Friday, 19 August 2011 02:24 (six years ago) Permalink

t/s: "filthy" vs "funky"

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 02:44 (six years ago) Permalink

is it brostep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD7KFEczgfo

(nsfw)

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's brostep, bro.

my brother's a basedgod (The Reverend), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Who wants more bass in their face

50000000 elves (blank), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:39 (six years ago) Permalink

oh man moonship thats p awesome

pennywise #foolish (Lamp), Friday, 19 August 2011 03:41 (six years ago) Permalink

can this be a trolling thread

neuchâtel xanax (cozen), Friday, 19 August 2011 09:19 (six years ago) Permalink

sure

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 09:27 (six years ago) Permalink

I want to hear a brostep cover of "Hobo Humpin' Slobo Babe"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 19 August 2011 09:42 (six years ago) Permalink

is it brostep?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNZ443TwORU

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:25 (six years ago) Permalink

the name of my new band is Halfspeed Haircut

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:29 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm pretty amazed that lincoln, ne has a d'n'b community but i guess when the dubstep community is so awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csl4cfTm3Ec

bassthoven ... is it brostep?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:33 (six years ago) Permalink

fucking... glowsticks!!?

i want to move there

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:34 (six years ago) Permalink

That flyer looks more like what I would expect (nerdy/crunchy).

― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:49 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Also don't get why they've gone for a grindcore font.

― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:55 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i've met nerdy crunchy d&b dudes and they are still dudes. and kinda clueless about anything other than a really narrow area of boring stuff. maybe they aren't fratboys or whatever. i dunno. the common thread is a love for tedious dance music.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:56 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

analysis of flier fail

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 19 August 2011 10:35 (six years ago) Permalink

oh, francois.

fauxmarc, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Flyer suggests - sweaty, unwashed, too much time spent playing video games, only three girls in the club two of which are going out with the DJs.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 August 2011 11:43 (six years ago) Permalink

This stuff is all very well if it actually does something interesting, but fuck me that MAgnetic Man album is as dull and predictable as hell. Plus I'm now allergic to Pendulum. Skrillex and Nero make me wanna take a potato peeler to my skin.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Friday, 19 August 2011 11:53 (six years ago) Permalink

every time i see 'is it brostep' i think 'will it blend' and am left wanting an irrefutable test for brostepness
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

literally just came in here to post this <3
― bernard snowy, Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:08 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

;)

ice cr?m, Friday, 19 August 2011 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

mag man is pretty predictable but still doesn't feel bro-y enough. like if skrillex was a night at the ZBT house mag man would be at like the ice hockey house on a chill beer pong night.

huh

fauxmarc, Friday, 19 August 2011 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

This all explains why I went to this Hessle Audio thing in London this year and it wasn't very good and I felt too old and it was all guys 10+ years younger than me in neon rimmed raybans and polo shirts.

Jung Danjah (admrl), Friday, 19 August 2011 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

"will it blend" ?

the tune is space, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

haha this stuff has gotten my little brother into dubstep

for that alone, classic

why don't kids listen to gabber anymore, now that was quality music

geeta, Friday, 19 August 2011 17:24 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLreo24WYeQ

xp

ice cr?m, Friday, 19 August 2011 18:07 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l69Vi5IDc0g

geeta, Friday, 19 August 2011 21:46 (six years ago) Permalink

haha

ice cr?m, Friday, 19 August 2011 22:03 (six years ago) Permalink

siiiiiiick

max, Friday, 19 August 2011 22:53 (six years ago) Permalink

This all explains why I went to this Hessle Audio thing in London this year and it wasn't very good and I felt too old and it was all guys 10+ years younger than me in neon rimmed raybans and polo shirts.

― Jung Danjah (admrl), Friday, August 19, 2011 5:15 PM (5 hours ago)

me too! was that mid-June sometime? We stuck around for hours hoping that Ben UFO's late set would change things, then he cleared the floor immediately and gave up after about four tracks.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 19 August 2011 23:09 (six years ago) Permalink

I would not normally associate Hessle Audio with brostep at all.

my brother's a basedgod (The Reverend), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:26 (six years ago) Permalink

why don't kids listen to gabber anymore, now that was quality music

Hope you're not being ironic, but I def agree. Fuck it, if you want your dance music moshy and cartoonish, just cut to the chase and put some fuckin' Johnny Violent on!

Speakin of which:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYULxX_hDZ8

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Think Planet-Mu tried for a bit of a gabba revival a few years back, but they made it too smart. Gabba's gotta be as retarded as possible to work properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFmfgeTSOJU

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Hessle Audio = Brostep? Wow you guys must live very sheltered upper city lives.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:33 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't live any kind of city life I was just visiting! But the thing I was at wasn't all Hessle Audio DJs - I don't know who most of them were - but it was, if not brostep, generally pretty harsh and filthy, with the floor of 20-year-olds clearing when anyone (like Ben UFO) went for anything different.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 19 August 2011 23:39 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah fair dos. i guess one's tolerance for this kind of shit drops exponentially once you hit 18.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Friday, 19 August 2011 23:44 (six years ago) Permalink

i need to find whatever it is i said about not caring for house anymore and take it back
out to a shed and kill it
that was wrong
so
wrong

fauxmarc, Saturday, 20 August 2011 02:05 (six years ago) Permalink

also is this bro or yankee grime or just rap or what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOxH3Bfa_3Q

fauxmarc, Saturday, 20 August 2011 15:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Could Night Slugs possibly be considered brostep? I really want to like this song but I'm wary of how catchy it is. I'm on the horns of the hipster dilemma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9CqhrH_Rug

viborg, Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, Merdeyeux. We were at the same thing.

I know Hessle Audio isn't really anything like this stuff, I was talking more about the vibe of this night, which Merdeyeux adequately described.

Lophar Andreusz DeLeone (admrl), Saturday, 20 August 2011 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Hessle Audio is way too interested in rhythm to be brostep.

Matt DC, Saturday, 20 August 2011 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

No Night Slugs is not brostep. Jeez, some of you have never been to the suburbs in your lives have you?

In other news, people are getting confused between dubstep and the Bomfunk Mcs these days it seems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDlif8Km4S4&feature=related

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd be surprised if a Bro would even consider that Pearson Sound track (which is great btw) dubstep. Friend who came round and started playing me some of the crassest buzzsaw shit was completely unmoved when I played him the Hessle comp. They're such different sounds, it's a wonder they fall under the same umbrella.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:03 (six years ago) Permalink

^nice brostep, bro

xp

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:09 (six years ago) Permalink

was assuming night slugs was a joke

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:39 (six years ago) Permalink

- not from the music alone, but because they're one of the few um, forward-thinking or whatev labels that have interaction with the queer community which is significantly unbrolike brok

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Brostep is just post-Caspa, post-Pendulum, made-in-a-flash, just-plain-bad dubstep with not much "dub" and not a lot of step - slowed down jump up drum'n'bass with wacky samples from action movies or featuring some TV theme or 80s hit crowbarred in there somewhere.

FTR I actually have (or had?) a fair bit of time for Caspa - he was one of the first to do this kind of hard-'n'-heavy dubstep, and that's all fair enough, especially since he makes it relatively interesting from what I've heard. But now there's an increasing amount of terrible stuff - peaking this summer. It'll be like the opening chords from the Cheers theme tune "unexepctedly" interrupted by "BBBOOOOOMM-beeeerrrrrr-BOOOOOMMM-beeeerrrr-Eeeeh-eeeeh-eeeeh wouldn't you like to get awa-BOOOOOOOOMM-beeeeerrrrrrrr-eeeh-eeeh-eeeh-And they're always glad you-BOOM BOOM WHEEEEERRRRRR". Anyway, stuff like that. I don't normally get annoyed about it but it changes people's opinions of what dubstep is, and kind of makes me embarrassed to say I like dubstep these days.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

(sorry about typos - i have stupid hands)

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blV0nFTOL_8

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

is the Nero - Welcome Reality album brostep or is it too smart to be brostep or what is the deal?

Kanye Borst (Kerm), Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

It's brostep.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

but poppy brostep.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

is brostep still "boring dubstep" or is all dubstep boring/brostep now?

Kanye Borst (Kerm), Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:45 (six years ago) Permalink

what do you think?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

that non-boring dubstep was post-dubstep before dubstep was brostep? could chuck wood.

fauxmarc, Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:00 (six years ago) Permalink

now i get it

Kanye Borst (Kerm), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:01 (six years ago) Permalink

is there not non-boring dubstep that is neither bro-step nor post-dubstep? what about stuff like youngsta or distance?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

i dunno, maybe stuff like horsepower productions or king midas sound?

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Sully's album's worth a spin, although that's going into more 2-step revival territory. The new Zomby is surprisingly dancey and non-crazy

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

What about Various

unwarranted display names of ilx (mh), Thursday, 25 August 2011 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6O01mhbZWE

Silkie imo

The Reverend, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66V_TkwbgRA

2000F & J Kamata imo too

The Reverend, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:14 (six years ago) Permalink

do you really like it is it is it brostep

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:14 (six years ago) Permalink

bro

The Reverend, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Haha I called a track I made 'Brodiestep' the other day.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:37 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost I'm wubbing it wubbing it wubbing it I'm wubbing it like this

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:48 (six years ago) Permalink

shit is blowing up in my little corner of the world. my 13yo cousin is listening to skrillex. two co-workers have asked me in the last day for dubstep recommendations. i'm not sure if they actually want dubstep or if "dubstep" is the new "techno".

lukas, Friday, 2 September 2011 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

mexican kids at my school were jerking to dubstep today. they are dressed like the kids in jerk videos from LA except they have candy raver bracelets on their arms. one of them had "JERK 4 LIFE" and "M F DUB STEP" written on his hands

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 2 September 2011 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

sorry, i should've said hispanic kids, they're not from mexico

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 2 September 2011 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

"i'm not sure if they actually want dubstep or if "dubstep" is the new "techno"."

someone came in my store today and asked me i had a "dub or dubstep" section. so apparently dubstep is all things to all people.

scott seward, Friday, 2 September 2011 19:05 (six years ago) Permalink

it's all just a dub
bro

fauxmarc, Friday, 2 September 2011 19:07 (six years ago) Permalink

sign outside bar near my place:

"no cover, no lineup, no dubstep"

m0stlyClean, Friday, 2 September 2011 23:10 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm wubbing it wubbing it wubbing it I'm wubbing it like this

http://www.mtv.com/photos/vmas-host-rewind/1646002/5122397/photo.jhtml

mikebee (BATTAGS), Saturday, 3 September 2011 06:57 (six years ago) Permalink

skrillex was the vocalist for from first to last

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yG6iw7AeWE

i keep a mental tally of musicians that went from punk/hardcore to dubious/bad edm

- steve aoki was in this machine kills, good emocore, i liked them i mean they had a split with yaphet kotto and envy
- skrillex
- dave nada (coincidentally about to tour with skrillex, solo dj, member of nadastrom and coiner of moombahton) - bassist? in de nada, thrashy dc punk in the 90's, also good

fauxmarc, Saturday, 3 September 2011 14:17 (six years ago) Permalink

lol i heard a dubstep remix by true tiger of that punjabi mc song. it started off as normal, the broke down before it would usually get going, and went into some metallic staggered version of the song. i like this stuff just cos its funny and i like how generic and brainless it is but i just forget it all instantly. at least the older OG brosteppas (SALUTE) had more attitude and darkness in what they were doing.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 3 September 2011 15:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Hessle Audio is way too interested in rhythm soft to be brostep.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 3 September 2011 15:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Whoa, I thought this was just an ILM joke name initially.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 3 September 2011 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

sad day for music when the brostep forum no longer exists

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 3 September 2011 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

"known as hard and horny raw dong music for sweaty males to “bro out” to,

[to whom?]
"

zvookster, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:37 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.spin.com/articles/new-rave-generation

"You can't put a fuckin' timeline on it," (Diplo) continues, "but what Skrillex does, it's really grassroots, man. The energy here at this stage is, like, 40 times bigger than what (David) Guetta 
has right now."

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

does diplo write for freakytrigger now

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

needs the magazine cover for full impact

http://www.spin.com/sites/spin.com/files/imagecache/huge_page_view/sites/spin.com/files/110912-skrillex-cover.png

dmr, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

sweet fucking christ

mh, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

good on tiesto for staying relevant, huh

mh, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.spin.com/sites/spin.com/files/110912-skrillex-6.png

yessss

mh, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

See Skrillex perform and you understand why Deadmau5 -- the genre's most spectacular, or at least recognizable, act -- has anointed him with his magic mouse pheromones

hahaha

dmr, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:40 (six years ago) Permalink

i really need to know what units stage energy is measured in

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:41 (six years ago) Permalink

haha that article has the word 'brostep' in it

Lamp, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

how the fuck is this article written by philip sherburne? I really hope this is a ridiculously edited online version!

if not, um... how do we summon him to thread?

mh, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

this is a good idea for a cover story imo, tho it seems weird to lump tiesto in there, and maybe even justice

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

I liked the article but yeah the point might be better made if the piece were more Skrillex/Deadmau5/new faces and less Diplo/Tiesto

dmr, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

I went and listened to Skrillex's big hit. Y'know, for research. It's really bad.

dmr, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah listening to it now... the central riff is pretty good imo but all the heavy bass dupstep stuff is terrible -- it could've been a great house song! oh well

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

It's like, you Google 'DJ,' (Tiesto) what comes up, y'know?"

psh no i just did this and spooky came up. and some news/realtime for medhi.

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

kind of reads like a "let's mention everything dance music-wise that sells in the US and order it by popularity and just kind of splat it all on the page with anecdotes to add minimal context"

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

mh, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

how the fuck is dj spooky that subliminal kid on the first page of google results for "dj"?

karlkongvsgodzilla (rustic italian flatbread), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah listening to it now... the central riff is pretty good imo but all the heavy bass dupstep stuff is terrible -- it could've been a great house song! oh well

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:54 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Ha ha, I feel totally the opposite, like I'm down with the wub wub noisy bassline part and I just cannot deal with the Auto-Tune "melody" part-

but maybe this is the key to his popularity, the having-it-both-ways thing is supposed to mean "something for everyone"? mostly I get a strong junkfood feeling that makes me want to turn it off- I mean if I wanted harsh bassy stuff then I would go for Taciturne, Vex'd, DJ Scud, old breakcore stuff, or like stuff with good sound design like Errorsmith or Emptyset. This is just not for me. But don't the kids just love it . . .

the tune is space, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:08 (six years ago) Permalink

kind of reads like a "let's mention everything dance music-wise that sells in the US and order it by popularity and just kind of splat it all on the page with anecdotes to add minimal context"

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

― mh, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:58 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

you may have missed this key element: [Magazine Excerpt]

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:12 (six years ago) Permalink

assuming it has features/interviews with each of the mentioned artists on the cover?

― mh, Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:58 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

also these parts:

(see SPIN magazine's "Electric Mayhem," page 54)
(see "Second Coming," page 64)

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:14 (six years ago) Permalink

excerpt usually means part of an actual article, as in.. this is an actual article that is truncated, usually not condensed

also neither of those (see) sections directly references a feature directly on any single artist

mh, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:18 (six years ago) Permalink

stage energy is measured in ergs brah

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

does brostep have any other tricks besides that vibrating bass butterfly thingy

dayo, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:20 (six years ago) Permalink

that's like asking if house has tricks beside a thumping bass and smiling face

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

well, does house have any tricks beside a thumping bass and a smiling face

dayo, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

also wtf is this

After dipping his toes into dance music with last year's Diddy-Dirty Money project, he recently recorded an album with the Israeli tech-house producer Guy Gerber.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:27 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm glad that there's a delineation bw dubstep and brostep

i don't listen to either but i feel the need to be snobby about it

witchho (zachlyon), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:28 (six years ago) Permalink

also wtf is this

After dipping his toes into dance music with last year's Diddy-Dirty Money project, he recently recorded an album with the Israeli tech-house producer Guy Gerber.

interview here
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011/09/06/a-special-kinda-guy-getting-deep-with-mr-gerber/

dmr, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I snobbed out on my sister-in-law on facebook. She was like "I love folding laundry to dubstep!" and I just hammered in on her: "why are you living in 2006? you should be listening to post-dubstep! joy orbison? mount kimbie? ever heard of 'em?"

I was kidding, but I also wasn't.

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:39 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean, I don't even really listen to post-dubstep...

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Should I?

rustic italian flatbread, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Wait...Skrillex looks like that???

The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 23:42 (six years ago) Permalink

haha, that is what my friend said

mh, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 23:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Me to thread. What's posted online is, indeed, just an excerpt. And what made it into the mag is just a fraction of what I *originally* wrote; I think I wrote 12,000 or perhaps 15,000 words for a piece that finally ran at about 5,500. (I do have a tendency to be long-winded.) And no, there aren't features on Tiesto, Deadmau5 or Diplo, but hey, you gotta sell magazines, right? There are features on dubstep and EDC.

pshrbrn, Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:08 (six years ago) Permalink

a strong junkfood feeling

Yeah - this is exactly the way to describe this stuff. In small doses it's alright I guess in a mindless way - as I've mentioned, I used to quite like a bit of Caspa & Rusko when they first came out. But this is very far removed from the G dubstep - it's jump-up d'n'b filtered through nu-metal.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I want to read the 12,000 words version

wolves lacan, Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:19 (six years ago) Permalink

7,000 of them are just WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE

witchho (zachlyon), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

it's jump-up d'n'b filtered through nu-metal.

the vast majority of the under-18s i know who are into "dubstep" are also into nu-metal / screamo stuff w/ keyboards

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 15 September 2011 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

similarly, all the people i know who used to listen to linkin park and pop-punk are now learning to DJ Nero and Flux Pavilion tracks.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Thursday, 15 September 2011 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

7,000 of them are just WOBBLE WOBBLE WOBBLE

-- is wobbly nothing but an over-played pejorative now? it used to be a valid/accept descriptor for a lot of bassier jackin house even before the blog/fidget thing happened but i saw this post and then there was just some lame twitter event post about "getting some wobbbly bass + dubstep in your life" so i wonder.

fauxmarc, Thursday, 15 September 2011 19:51 (six years ago) Permalink

well it's sort of the biggest factor in brostep isn't it? my impression of the 'problem' with this stuff is that the wobble is the most important thing, the central part of every track, which makes me think of it as barely being music -- and i don't mean that pejoratively, but literally, like i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context. there's no depth or complexity to the music, not even an understanding of climaxing or coming down, it's just wobbly vibrations which could be a new experience for all those kids who've never gone to see loud bands play in small spaces. just a physical response to noise. of course i've never been to any of these shows so i don't know what my impression is worth, but that's a bit close to it right?

witchho (zachlyon), Thursday, 15 September 2011 21:06 (six years ago) Permalink

it's a bit close. i think the thing is that a lot of these kids *are* kids who often go see loud bands in small spaces, start to get burned out on the impact of drums/guitar/bass/screaming, and are picking up the same vibes from "bass wobble" that they might have in the past got from double kick drum or cookie monster vocals

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 15 September 2011 21:59 (six years ago) Permalink

i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context.

This is a valid reason to listen to music though.

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 15 September 2011 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for the crabcore/dubstep hybrids

Wait, maybe we have them!

mh, Thursday, 15 September 2011 23:00 (six years ago) Permalink

The bass at Stink Like Sock in Cambridge is stupendously loud. Never heard anything like it. It grabs you by the balls, then the throat, then the stomach - and those are just the first three notes of 'where's my money'. So yes, it's often quite literally a physical thing. I'm waiting for them to invent a speaker system that blasts soundwaves big enough to suspend people in the air with bass. Something that'll physically throw you in the air. I can see that being more fun for teenagers than a bunch of embarrassing dudes in boardshorts playing music invariably about how their parents didn't give them enough money or about how they've got too much money now.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2011 00:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i think of people going to these shows just to feel the vibration in a sort of ravey context.

This is a valid reason to listen to music though.

― rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

oh i'm not saying it's not -- one of my favorite events is the high zero festival in baltimore largely because the pure noise experiments can have such a sensational effect on a physical level. i just have trouble classifying wobble wobble as "music" rather than "visceral experience that assuredly gets boring and bland after a few shows, right?"

witchho (zachlyon), Friday, 16 September 2011 05:58 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeyAeuoi4-E
Dubstep Hamlet)

where does this fit?

san lazaro, Friday, 16 September 2011 14:34 (six years ago) Permalink

how not to be"

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 16 September 2011 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

i just have trouble classifying wobble wobble as "music"

actually it's when they try to get "musical" that they get in trouble imo

lukas, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Still waiting on the rise of footbro

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2011 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

I've never listened to brostep on speakers good enough for any sort of wobble-action to take effect.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean, brostep sucks and everything, but that's a fun jam to dance to.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Monday, 26 September 2011 13:08 (six years ago) Permalink

That said, the chainsaw bits are completely unnecessary in the context of the song. Would have been better as a simple electro cover.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Monday, 26 September 2011 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh wow, adult swim (Cartoon Network's for older viewers block of cartoons/shows shown late night) has a compilation they have tagged as "dubstep." They seem to have fallen on the not-brostep side of things. The not-dubstep side of things, too.

http://www.adultswim.com/promos/201109_unclassified/

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

adult swim + scion a/v/

fauxmarc, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:55 (six years ago) Permalink

scion has it's paws up in a lot of that scene.

fauxmarc, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:55 (six years ago) Permalink

I know, I instinctively cringe when I see that sponsorship on things but this is.... not mixed by some random dude and has some decent music?

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I wasn't aware of what they sponsored now, but from past experience and being bombed by horrible promo cds I have a lot of preconceptions

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

not denigrating, just saying, it's a line-up i'd expect with scion's involvement. - the artists scion selects to do work with are pretty good and it's cool that they setup events/parties (albeit they tend to be underpromoted on scion's part at times). issue with promo discs is usually people consciously leaving their lesser work for them (can't blame them).

fauxmarc, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:00 (six years ago) Permalink

That's cool, I just remember some dodgy promo discs being thrown around when Scion first appeared as a brand to the point where there were stacks of them sitting in every record store, at every event, and you'd get two or three at a music festival.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:14 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i can't really think of another company that's been as knee-deep in the sponsoring of electronic music. i remember when it first came out it was the offish "rave car" or whatever

fauxmarc, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Red Bull Music Academy!

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:39 (six years ago) Permalink

EXCEPT FOR RED BULL MUSIC ACADEMY

they sort of gloss over as they same in my head "SHINY! RAVE!" when i'm not thinking about it

fauxmarc, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:43 (six years ago) Permalink

and actually i hadn't realized rbma has been around for as long as it has dealing in these kinds of (the non-bro-y) producers

fauxmarc, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Didn't Adult Swim have some sort of involvement with Major Lazer and Flying Lotus videos in recent times? That tracklisting does look rather good.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:24 (six years ago) Permalink

One of the Tim and Eric guys directed videos for both, I believe.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:26 (six years ago) Permalink

flylo got his first break doing bumpers for adult swim iirc

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:33 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovL0VxzguEo

elan, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:42 (six years ago) Permalink

finally, a musical team-up we can all get behind

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Someone I don't know on youtube just sent me a link to: "Laura Warwick - Losing You (Chill Dubstep Remix by S.J.P)"

Should I listen to it?

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:53 (six years ago) Permalink

I have no idea who that is, what it is, etc.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:53 (six years ago) Permalink

it's no one big or anything just someone spamming their work out

fauxmarc, Thursday, 29 September 2011 01:51 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt3HUulsf3s

errant flynn, Thursday, 29 September 2011 01:58 (six years ago) Permalink

it's no one big or anything just someone spamming their work out

Why me I wonder? I must have liked Katy on a Mission or something.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 29 September 2011 02:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Am I the only person who finds it amusing that people are just now realizing that Skrillex collaborated with Korn, when the song's been out since April?

MarkoP, Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:05 (six years ago) Permalink

...there's certain things not worth bragging about knowing, that's probably one of them

fauxmarc, Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:09 (six years ago) Permalink

James Blake grousing in pitchfork:

“I think the dubstep that has come over to the US, and certain producers-- who I can't even be bothered naming-- have definitely hit upon a sort of frat-boy market where there's this macho-ism being reflected in the sounds and the way the music makes you feel. And to me, that is a million miles away from where dubstep started. It's a million miles away from the ethos of it. It's been influenced so much by electro and rave, into who can make the dirtiest, filthiest bass sound, almost like a pissing competition, and that's not really necessary. And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women. I find that whole side of things to be pretty frustrating, because that is a direct misrepresentation of the sound as far as I'm concerned.”

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

who I can't even be bothered naming

strawman argument

there's this macho-ism being reflected in the sounds and the way the music makes you feel. And to me, that is a million miles away from where dubstep started

sissy argument

And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women

sexist argument

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Sounds like an excuse for the weak, anaemic "blubstep" of his own album.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Thursday, 29 September 2011 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women

saying stuff like this is such a bad look

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:02 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't know many dubstep fans irl, but it never really struck me as a genre that had an exorbitant amount of female fans

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:13 (six years ago) Permalink

you know what, can a mod delete my last post and just replace it with this

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lobw3bQP7F1qec8vqo1_250.gif

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:14 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't know many dubstep fans irl, but it never really struck me as a genre that had an exorbitant amount of female fans

of course it has (maybe not exorbitant whatever the quantifier for that is) but a good amount

fauxmarc, Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:22 (six years ago) Permalink

also from what i can tell, girls really like stadium dubstep raves

james blake just offtm in general

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd imagine Skrillex has more female fans than James Blake does. Granted, he obviously has a lot more fans in general

Number None, Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:24 (six years ago) Permalink

should expand the nomenclature of brostep to be less sexist.

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

sororostep

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

greekstep

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

campuslifestep

rustic italian flatbread, Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:27 (six years ago) Permalink

wubstep

Number None, Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:28 (six years ago) Permalink

chugstep

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:35 (six years ago) Permalink

northern cali heads <3 nugstep

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Feel like Blake was on the right track for a second and then totally lost it... Someone on twitter wrote that maybe dubstep is our nu-metal. But maybe it's more like metal, i.e. a broad genre with tons of shitty stuff and a few gems. And dismissing it entirely is like saying "I don't like metal (or electronic music, or rap, or whatever)". I mean, I can understand not liking any of it, but dismissing all of it because of bro-step icons like Skrillex, who are really just continuations of 2k5 screamo, is ridiculous.

HANDSTAND, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:21 (six years ago) Permalink

could it be like saying "i don't like trance" because really i'm always fine with saying that

fauxmarc, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink

with this Skrillex/Korn collab I almost want to call it (or Skrillex's stuff at least) "mall-step" now

Chris S, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:43 (six years ago) Permalink

or tween-step, hot topic-step, nu-step, nu-wobble, wobble-core

Chris S, Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:50 (six years ago) Permalink

tons of girls like metal and nu-metal.

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

tons of tween girls like metal and nu-metal

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

on an unrelated note, saw a twink wearing silver aviators, diesel jeans, a red bandana and a black t-shirt w/ LISTEN TO DUBSTEP printed on it in silver foil, in a crowded gay bar at 4 pm on a saturday. they were not playing DUBSTEP at the bar.

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:58 (six years ago) Permalink

crowded gay bar at 4pm on a saturday is always going to bring some interesting looks ime

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:00 (six years ago) Permalink

my ex-coworker's current fb status is "DUBSTEP ALL DAY"

he's a tech nerd

fauxmarc, Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

i'd rather listen to james blake than skrillex so i agree with james blake (i don't really like his music much)

there are definitely massive amounts of female dubstep fans, all born after 1990

witchho (zachlyon), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:31 (six years ago) Permalink

also the whole "LISTEN TO DUBSTEP" thing is weird, because it really is all so interchangeable to just call it by its genre (LISTEN TO R&B) except what the people who listen to it think of as "dubstep" is just a tiny thing compared to everything that's ever used that name, w/r/t the range of sound etc it covers. weird to me how LISTEN TO DUBSTEP people have no idea who like katy b is, or any of the other major artists of the past decade. do brostep bros have any british presence or is it mostly america?

witchho (zachlyon), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:38 (six years ago) Permalink

just started teaching sound engineering / music production to mostly 18-19-year-olds in Dublin. They are all into "dubstep", meaning Skrillex - several different students have recommended his stuff to me. Not sure what other dubstep they're into. they all wanna know how to make wobble basslines.

My class is 95% male so can't comment on Skrillex's appeal to female fans. James Blake on the other hand - he was standing beside us at the bar after his last gig here and there was a steady stream of girls approaching him/posing for photos etc

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lks8cu6wPT1qisd2to1_500.jpg

max, Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:55 (six years ago) Permalink

who knew that i would be pining for the days when tech nerds were content to listen to idm all day

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Skrillex was the singer in some heartthrob emo band a couple of years ago. He's got his fair share of groupies.

dog latin, Thursday, 29 September 2011 23:14 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gn7lm4CFGg

BROCK OUT!!!!

errant flynn, Friday, 30 September 2011 01:59 (six years ago) Permalink

puddle of muddstep is next level

some dude, Friday, 30 September 2011 02:34 (six years ago) Permalink

lol was gonna say grungestep but ^

Chris S, Friday, 30 September 2011 02:36 (six years ago) Permalink

is there christian brostep?

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 30 September 2011 04:12 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeqjmdHkrw

DJ Triune is the founder and owner of ChristStarr® Entertainment a Christian DJ Service out of Southern California and ChristStarr® Ministry, a Christian DJ & Outreach service out of Southern California.

errant flynn, Friday, 30 September 2011 04:23 (six years ago) Permalink

saragilbertstep?

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 30 September 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

yessss

fauxmarc, Friday, 30 September 2011 23:11 (six years ago) Permalink

checked out skrillex's wiki today and now he is apparently a complextro producer??

dayo, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:41 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.reddit.com/r/Complextro/

complextroll, complexbro, complexbrostep, etc.

dayo, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

What is Complextro?: A new genre that stemmed from 'electro'.This genre is complex, hence the name, with artists producing basslines/leads that are very intricate sometimes involving 8+ different synth sounds per 2 bar loop. Artists like Feed Me, Skrillex, Uppermost, Wolfgang Gartner and even Deadmau5 have all taken shots at producing it. (With Grand Results)

dayo, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

bullshit

owenf, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

nah that's no good

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

8+ different synth sounds per 2 bar loop

wow!!! :-)

dayo, Saturday, 1 October 2011 17:46 (six years ago) Permalink

a' cabrostep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcutAZHIiE8

re: complextro etc

i don't know if this was the board/thread in which i already mentioned how much wolfgang gartner is one of my favorite house producers ever, joey youngman! (aka mario fabriani, white collar criminals, frequent flyers, etc). it's like he spent a good half-decade or so banging out jackin tracks, got bored of only being acknowledged by house nerds and went for the money w/electo and bro-y stuff. he used to be all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULojxZpNhl4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itScDe1T9Gc

then at one point he was selling full packs of all of his samples and the next year was onto wolfgang gartner.

fauxmarc, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

'complextro'?!?!

the worst

geeta, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Brostep's got more in common with electro than og dubstep these days.

dog latin, Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

It's got more in common with drill and bass tbh

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Saturday, 1 October 2011 18:37 (six years ago) Permalink

i've been told "OMG so good" "Whoa! this is SICK."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dJHP0brCnI

fauxmarc, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:49 (six years ago) Permalink

"I only listen to classic jazz! Not stuff like jazz fusion and smooth jazz."

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:56 (six years ago) Permalink

that tommy's theme wasn't entirely disagreeable

(╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:56 (six years ago) Permalink

no wub wub wub, at least. reminded me of... the avalanches

(╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:57 (six years ago) Permalink

that Noisa track = Michael Bay-step imo... Teal-and-Orange-step.

Chris S, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I think I've mentioned a couple times that Noisia isn't bad, based on the one track of theirs that was in Wipeout HD that the tune is space also linked in another thread

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 00:01 (six years ago) Permalink

please tell me that's pronounced like "noisy-ah"

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I think so? Or maybe like nausea only with an 'o' sound

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 02:43 (six years ago) Permalink

i hope you say it like 'moesha'. also chris s otm, 'michael bay-step' is probably the future of this stuff

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 06:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I feel as though friends and acquaintances Have been trying to shove Noisia down my throat like Cod liver oil in an orphanage these last few years. So far I've pretty much resisted because, well, it's a racket I'm never really in the mood for, but it's funny we're only just discussing this now.

dog latin, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 06:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Rusko's thoughts on Brostep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEuFTBG0Rbg

zoom, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 11:56 (six years ago) Permalink

michael bay-step == pretends to have a plot, actually just hyperactive genre cliches replayed fast enough and poorly enough?

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:33 (six years ago) Permalink

with heart-strings

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:34 (six years ago) Permalink

(With Grand Results)

lmao

dmr, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Some tweets from Snoop

SnoopDogg Snoop Dogg
Who's coming out to see the Dogg in the UK? might perform some of these Dubstep tracks snoopdogg.com/events/
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Free Dubstep Mixtape i did wid @mistajam @dubstepla feat @12thplanet @FLINCH @Fluxpavilion and the whole DPG fan bit.ly/ph7q3f

badg, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 02:39 (six years ago) Permalink

lol, can now tell dad how 2 future he was really being when letting me borrow his doggpound tape in sixth grade.

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 08:37 (six years ago) Permalink

how old are you? omg.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

30 wut

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:17 (six years ago) Permalink

also it was doggystyle, not out until 93 so i guess that's eighth instead

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Family Force 5 (often abbreviated FF5, formerly known as The Phamily and The Brothers) is a Christian crunk rock band from Atlanta, Georgia.[1] They consist of Solomon "Soul Glow Activatur" Olds, Jacob "Crouton" Olds, Joshua "Fatty" Olds, Nathan "Nadaddy" Currin, and Derek "Chap Stique" Mount. They have released three studio albums, Business Up Front/Party in the Back, Dance or Die, and Family Force 5 Christmas Pageant, as well an extension album, Business Up Front/Party in the Back Diamond Edition and a remix album, Dance or Die with a Vengeance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp017eFimVA

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

haha, great find

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 20:51 (six years ago) Permalink

omg dubstep cereal (is already here?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YpOw8o34BM

jaxon, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:54 (six years ago) Permalink

snoop has been on the dubstep train for like a year, y'all

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:56 (six years ago) Permalink

crunch-step, part of this balanced break-fest

Chris S, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm hanging on to "brastep" for girly stuff.

Love that cartoon upthread. At this point people sniffily defending real dubstep are perhaps more of a problem than LISTEN TO DUBSTEP bros vomiting all over their computer speakers.

Tim F, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:07 (six years ago) Permalink

holy shit that weetabix commercial

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:27 (six years ago) Permalink

I feel sorry for the DEFEND REAL DUBSTEP types not cause brostep usurped their thunder so much as cause they don't realize their music sux too.

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:41 (six years ago) Permalink

what is "real dubstep" according to these types?

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:49 (six years ago) Permalink

it doesn't matter.

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:02 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah it does

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:06 (six years ago) Permalink

nah it don't

fauxmarc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:49 (six years ago) Permalink

inquiring minds want to know

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:58 (six years ago) Permalink

It's a moving goalpost I think. There are people who defend the real dubstep of benga/skream from the rank broisms of skrillex et. al. but this strikes me as fairly narc of sd.

The cartoon is probably about people who miss the glory days of DMZ and nowadays collect Swamp 81 records.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:07 (six years ago) Permalink

i ask because there seem to be many def'ns of "real dubstep". is it skream? rusko? youngsta?

all are plying rather different trades these days

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Agreed.

But in this sense it's not really any different to people talking about "real" house / techno / jungle / trance etc.

Perhaps a sign of a genre's maturity when this happens. A bit scary to think that the first officially-designated "dubstep" mix (that I'm aware of) is now almost 10 years old.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:18 (six years ago) Permalink

dubstep allstars 1?

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Kode9 did a mix just called "Dubstep" I think in early 2002 - the follow-up to the excellent "21st Century Skank" mix which was dubstep avant la lettre.

DA1 came out in 2004.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:43 (six years ago) Permalink

That was back when people were still talking about "yardcore" and "nu-dark swing" et. al.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:47 (six years ago) Permalink

first use of the term?

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:47 (six years ago) Permalink

"dark garage"

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:47 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.udubstep.com/the-history-of-dubstep/

They don't mention the mix but do refer to Kode9's radio show at that time.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Tim is right that the DRD kru carries various banners, but I seem to hear a lot of "Fuck Skrillex, I listen to Shackleton!", who is alright and all but zzzzzz

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:56 (six years ago) Permalink

see that's interesting to me because i don't even think of shackleton as dubstep!

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Well he's not really any more. Obv he was totally dubstep on his early releases.

One of the issues here as well is that you get a lot of people who have gotten on board with dubstep since 2008 or so and then have worked backwards to the earlier stuff so when they talk in hushed tones about Loefah and Mala they're like to be talking about "Anti-War Dub" or w/e rather than 2011 material.

In much the same way that people getting into dubstep circa 2005 were talking in hushed tones about Steve Gurley and El-B.

The difference being that the official history of dubstep has been so thoroughly prepared and documented (take a bow blackdown!) that a neophyte can pretty quickly get a historical perspective on earlier dubstep without missing the point entirely.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:07 (six years ago) Permalink

I haven't really heard Shackleton's recent material, but yeah, he was totally dubstep at least at one point.

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:10 (six years ago) Permalink

People I heard associated w/dubstep, not pre-dubstep per se (like Horsepower Productions):

Various, Digital Mystikz, Loefah, Mala, Coki, Benga, Distance, Hatcha, Skream

Honestly, anyone who had a name ending in "a" and I kind of felt embarrassed about saying their name, but I'm north american.

Shackleton's always been "post-dubstep" or at least outer reaches. After crossing w/other material he veered off, imo.

"Roots of Dubstep":
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Ammunition-And-Blackdown-Present-The-Roots-Of-Dubstep/release/776211

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Shackleton's always been "post-dubstep" or at least outer reaches.

Why would Shackleton's early material be any more "outer reaches" than, say, Mala?

I mean if the definition of dubstep is basically Benga/Skream/Distance, then, sure, but at that point I think my narc of sd point seriously applies vis a vis Skrillex etc.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:10 (six years ago) Permalink

But in this sense it's not really any different to people talking about "real" house / techno / jungle / trance etc.

or punk/rap/whatever the fuck else

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:48 (six years ago) Permalink

start @ 4:28 for some troo broness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAOfu9_ZPBc

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:48 (six years ago) Permalink

er, 4:26

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:49 (six years ago) Permalink

(sorta NSFW)

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess I might be extrapolating Shackleton's later stuff to his early ones. He kind of had the Mordant Music thing, then the Shackleton/Appleblim Skull Disco roadshow, right?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:02 (six years ago) Permalink

I mostly know him for his Skull Disco stuff.

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:06 (six years ago) Permalink

so i was at the punk rock pizza shop, and looking at all the fliers on the wall, and buried in amongst 1000s of indie / punk / hardcore shows and 100s of indie / electro / hip hop i see two lonely DUBSTEP nights, both at the same club, a place on the edge of downtown popular with yelpers and style bloggers that programs "hip hop / reggae / funk / soul" or "indie / electro" or "house / tech house" every other night of the month.

the first crew is called SNIPAZ

the second crew is called MAYHEM

which do i go see?

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:14 (six years ago) Permalink

SNIPAZ will prob have more girls & ppl on drugs but MAYHEM will prob be more of a spectacle

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Someone put Shackleton over that "Sorry For Partying" vid.

errant flynn, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

a lot of the songs on this thread weren't on spotify, but here is a brostep playlist: http://bit.ly/rk0QC1
enjoy, bros. also what ever you do do not listen to the pandora dubstep station.

Picnicant, Friday, 7 October 2011 11:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks! I've been trying to recreate some chainsaw/brostep sounds in Reason as an experiment, and it's harder than it sounds. Some of those wobs are really tricky to pull off.

dog latin, Friday, 7 October 2011 11:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Last weekend, I dl'd a bunch of 2005-2011 era dubstep tracks off of the ilm "dubstep" thread. Then I dl'd Skrillex's BBC Essential Mix. Then I took them both out on some long car trips I had to take this week anyway. This helped immeasurably improve the dubstep experience for me because on my previous attempts to listen to it, I had just been listening through laptop speakers and those obviously don't capture the bass.

I liked them both well enough. There were a few places where Skrillex went off into real corny territory. I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.

The "actual" dubstep I picked up was a mixture of different styles, from moody, atmospheric stuff to brash, noisy, dancehall-ish kinda numbers. Some of it had a lot of spirit, some of it was intensely boring. Based on what I've heard so far, I don't think that I prefer it to most of the drum n bass I was listening to back in the 90s.

piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 11:59 (six years ago) Permalink

much of the dubstep I picked up was straight from this list:

dubstep

piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.

totally agree. And tbh I rather wide eyed 'filthy bass' brostep kids to the angry hardcore 'mosh' kids that were everywhere when I was a teenager.

owenf, Friday, 7 October 2011 12:08 (six years ago) Permalink

ohhhhh, but they're definitely moshing to brostep :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_8gyCeXbw

piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:12 (six years ago) Permalink

poor attempts at moshing

owenf, Friday, 7 October 2011 12:14 (six years ago) Permalink

for the most part, moshing has always been poor attempts at moshing. oblivious me thought that everybody would be over moshing now in 2011.

piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:18 (six years ago) Permalink

one would have hoped

owenf, Friday, 7 October 2011 12:21 (six years ago) Permalink

psh says y'all

fauxmarc, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Nero totally fucked up "Crush On You" as my dope rediscovered 80s pop song of the year. :/

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Friday, 7 October 2011 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

amazing

psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

So I dunno why it took me this long, but Justice were a huge influence on this stuff, right?

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:03 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, I'm hearing some French house production technique in some of it

Chris S, Saturday, 8 October 2011 04:12 (six years ago) Permalink

The first wave of carpetbagging dubstep producers were mostly escaping the death of DnB, the second wave were almost all people getting out of the ass end of electrohouse.

I'm guessing Skrillex is the latter, what with the hair and the "complextro" or whatever he calls it.

pattern loader, Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:21 (six years ago) Permalink

I find all of this pretty fun and non threatening really, when I was 19 I liked breakcore. Could totally see myself being into Skrillex if I was 19 too.

pattern loader, Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:23 (six years ago) Permalink

i can see being 19 but i know mostly late 20's / early 30's into it. eh, breakcore's fine.

everything about this from visual to track to comments apropos lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbPjiJ-4jMA

fauxmarc, Saturday, 8 October 2011 12:27 (six years ago) Permalink

When Darkness Falls

1. Protocol X - Our Storm
2. Vex'd - Thunder
3. Distance - Koncrete
4. Emalkay - Gut Feeling
5. SPL - Lust
6. Lone Wolf - The Plague
7. Scarecrow - Snakes And Ladders
8. Aaron Spectre - Music is the Weapon
9. King Cannibal - Aragami Style
10. Milanese - Sight beyond Sight
11. Toasty - The Knowledge (vexd rmx)
12. Coki - Spongebob
13. 16Bit - Chainsaw Calligraphy
14. Reso - Armored Core
15. Skrillex - Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites
16. Noisia - Alpha Centauri (Excision & Datsik remix)
17. Pendulum - The Island (Statelapse Remix)
18. Plan B - The Recluse (Nero Remix)

meat to pleased you (flame grilled meat), Saturday, 8 October 2011 23:54 (six years ago) Permalink

When Morning Comes

1. Boxcutter - Gave dub
2. Burial - Fostercare
3. Caspa & Rusko - Rock bottom
4. Fat Freddys Drop - Cay's Crays (Digital Mystikz Remix)
5. Conquest - Forever
6. d1 - Sorrow rmx
7. Hell Science Dept - Getto
8. James Blake - Air & Lack Thereof
9. Mala - Alicia
10. Phaeleh - Lounge
11. Pinch - Qawwali
12. Reso - Onsen
13. Scuba - Dream
14. Shackleton - In the void
15. Skream - Dutch flowerz
16. Vaccine - Wishful thinking vip
17. Von D - Show Me (feat. Phephe)
18. vvv - émeute

meat to pleased you (flame grilled meat), Sunday, 9 October 2011 00:06 (six years ago) Permalink

but surely hipsters don't like this kind of stuff

Number None, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's not very gud.

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:29 (six years ago) Permalink

i think that's why the "brostep" label doesn't really work properly either. Aren't "bros" somewhere between jocks and hipsters in the US? See this kind of thing as a natural category for one-time nu-metal/emo kids who I believe wouldn't call each other "bro". Something like Nu-Step or Stepcore would be more appropriate, surely?

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:32 (six years ago) Permalink

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbusf0NK6v1qe7oxqo1_500.jpg

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:35 (six years ago) Permalink

It varies by area, but the general bro stereotype is a guy who uncritically loves dumb partying with male friends and has a generally dude-oriented view of life. There are jock bros, fraternity bros, hippie bros (lots of bros at jam band shows) and so on. Music that is kind of dumb and testosterone-heavy is pretty much prime bro territory.

( ) (mh), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:49 (six years ago) Permalink

No! Really?

Tim F, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

well, it's not a term (or stereotype) that gets bandied around much in the UK as it does in other places, so in that context it makes sense.

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

ya rly

( ) (mh), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

"bruvstep"

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXHLybTW2dI

"I may have lost a few fights, but I will fuckin shoot you blad"

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

but surely hipsters don't like this kind of stuff

still struggling to see what the definition of hipster is today (my daily psa to kill the term already) but if it can still be applied to your typical striped-shirt, tank-top and rayban-wearing williamsburg beardo, sure a good number do. i'm under the impression that the friday night girls and boys party at webster hall is run by these types

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but out-and-out hipsters (surely a dwindling breed in this climate?) would be more interested in the more leftfield side of things (James Blake and what not).

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Mainly lurk this thread but on the edge of my seat wanting to know what an "out-and-out" hipster is. Completely earnest btw.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

well, whatever, i only ever really hear about them on public forums, so..

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm not sure. also lots are into both this stuff and james blake

also i do use the bro term negatively but i'm mostly joshing, my first years out of college i lived with 3 guys from different parts of ohio that did nothing but talk about the cleveland browns, one of them had no music at all bought/copied/pirated or otherwise, i learned about livin' on a prayer from the other guys via fist-pumping drunk singalongs at fratty fake irish bars, we're still best friends, did all of their weddings etc - i'll bro down but i just won't get my brostep on because it is worse than all of that other stuff combined. or i'm a baby and can't handle my faceeeeee melttinggggg

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

On the topic of bros...to me a "pure bro" is what you describe above. Basically if music is a part of their life it's on some classic rock tip with a dash of U2 or a few other alternative-era leftovers with no real interest in contemporary music of any kind. Indie/hipster bros are more on some "I did too many drugs at an outdoor Fleet Foxes show and I might go to Pitchfork fest one day but Bonnaroo is good for me now" game. Fans of "brostep" are more like holdovers/breakouts from the Dim Mak/Steve Aoki party-til-you-puke "hard electro" end of the spectrum. That's what I think of when I think of brostep/Skrillex/etc.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Some tracks have basically turned those saw waves into pluck-harmonic guitars. I've tried to recreate this in Reason and it's kind of tricky to get right without making a mess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx2nH2RJEAA

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:59 (six years ago) Permalink

intellectbro

( ) (mh), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Some tracks have basically turned those saw waves into pluck-harmonic guitars.

the vibrato is the key, if you're talking about what i think you are.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

brostep is between dubstep and stepbro in my mind

blah blah blah, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

music for children of second marriages? shame (sic) no one's ever done a remix of this awful awful song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yERDDbP53Sw

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Bubba Ho-Step

owenf, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ all time.

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

18:50

Bassnectar - Where Is My Mind.mp3
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added by Sanpaku

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:21 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaOsmHXpWq4

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm late to the game but have been listening to Emika and Vex'd. What's my brostep quotient?

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Not very bro-y, bro.

Number None, Thursday, 20 October 2011 02:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I feel like James Blake is almost sensitive brostep. He is like a latter day sensitive indie dude in a masculine genre that bros can "be into" to get chicks.

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Thursday, 20 October 2011 02:41 (six years ago) Permalink

the James Blake show i went to (to see my friends who were opening)....well, while the crowd was very straight and gross and lolcollege-looking, the bass....was....really....something else. motherfucker plays looooouuuuddd.

Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 October 2011 05:22 (six years ago) Permalink

didn't brostep first appear to describe mount kimbie and maybe other such gentle gentlemen? back in my day...

known for melding an outrageous stage presence with tenacious hooks (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 20 October 2011 11:50 (six years ago) Permalink

No. Never.

Tim F, Thursday, 20 October 2011 12:18 (six years ago) Permalink

http://soundcloud.com/doglatin/pukestep

I haf made the world's most horrible brostep tune.

dog latin, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Whiney has a new love

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:21 (six years ago) Permalink

I listened to that Skrillex mini album and it's lots of fun!

dog latin, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Way to misspell KoЯn, noob Whiney

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Just cause Kode9 is boring doesn't mean you have to torture yourself.

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 October 2011 02:09 (six years ago) Permalink

And Whiney gave me and some dude shit for thinking the new Primus album was not terrible!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 22 October 2011 03:00 (six years ago) Permalink

haha, I just ran across this. THERE WILL BE DUBSTEP in my town of 100k, which historically has really only sustained top 40/hiphop/rock nights. The one gay bar in town just closed. :(

http://nwtekno.org/showthread.php?t=164654

The Reverend, Monday, 24 October 2011 11:01 (six years ago) Permalink

I might go just for the lols.

The Reverend, Monday, 24 October 2011 11:03 (six years ago) Permalink

i found myself explaining what brostep is to a friend last nite and the only thing i could think about was how ridiculous i sounded

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 24 October 2011 11:25 (six years ago) Permalink

I have yet to get a good picture of the dubstep night advertised on the marquee of an old theater in my neighborhood that has recently been turned over a couple times and repurposed as a concert/social venue. A scant ten years ago, it was a dinner theater. Now, it has hosted a variety of touring musicians and seems to have occasional dubstep nights (DUBSTEP on the marquee) and swing dance thursdays.

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Monday, 24 October 2011 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

dubstep is everything now. we have a dubstep chip shop in our town. they don't even play dubstep in there.

dog latin, Monday, 24 October 2011 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

we have a dubstep chip shop in our town

i have no idea what this means but i pray you are serious.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

man this shit is invading my town, how do I stop it

frogbs, Monday, 24 October 2011 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

don't trust anyone under 25

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Monday, 24 October 2011 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

at least all the shitty country, terrible auto-tuned-to-hell rap music, and whatever the Black Eyed Pears are can be tuned out, but this pretty much demands your attention, determined to destroy your brain and give you FUCK YEAH! vibes without breaking a sweat

frogbs, Monday, 24 October 2011 21:17 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.brobible.com/brommunity/story/brostep

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 24 October 2011 21:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Didn't nobody wanna speak
Now everybody peepin out they windows when they hear me beatin up the streets
Is it brostep? Is it brostep?
That's what they say, every single motherfuckin day

The Reverend, Thursday, 27 October 2011 21:59 (six years ago) Permalink

i found myself explaining what brostep is to a friend last nite and the only thing i could think about was how ridiculous i sounded

Hahaha. I love those musical conversations where you all of a sudden realize, "Fuck, I'm in waaay too deep here; how am I going to pull myself out of this one?!"

Clarke B., Friday, 28 October 2011 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

wow, I feel like an idiot, I kept calling the guy "Skillrex" and commenting and how dumb of a name that was

frogbs, Friday, 28 October 2011 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

A lot of the backlash against this kind of music sounds to me like old men shouting at clouds. It's as though people aren't treating it as a style of music so much as an automatic joke that youngsters are duping themselves into. When I was a young buck I fucking lived for gabba, digital hardcore and jump up d'n'b - that was the music that spoke to me along with the standard issue punk, grunge and metal we used to love. There's no mystery that teenagers and 20, 30, 40 year olds enjoy high impact, energetic music. I get why people are against the proliferation of jokey dubstep versions of 80s songs and the throwaway YouTubeness that comes with it. But I don't subscribe to the idea that because it's not "proper dubstep" (whatever that is these days), it's not worth anyone's time. Sure it's a racket. Sure there's a lot of screeching and grinding and not a lot of sub. Sure Sonny Moore looks like a Vril-Ya crossed with Trent Reznor, but frogbs thing about it demanding your attention with fUCK YEaH vibes - what is wrong with that? Isn't that the point? this is fast becoming one of the most popular new youth-music styles in the world and we're all still talking in hushed tones about Kode9 and Shackleton as if dubstep's still some sacred underground thing that shouldn't be tainted by anything so gauche as a big build up or a distorted wob. I sat down and listened to Scary Monsters And Nice Sprites and one thing's certain - it's not throwaway music, it's meticulously created, bulging with sound and bloody good fun. Even if he does have a song that goes 'I want to kill everybody in the world'. But if i'd been an angry door slamming teen when this was out, I know what would have been my anthem.

dog latin, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:15 (six years ago) Permalink

It's as though people aren't treating it as a style of music so much as an automatic joke that youngsters are duping themselves into

don't see why it can't be treated as both which i think people are doing

I don't subscribe to the idea that because it's not "proper dubstep" (whatever that is these days), it's not worth anyone's time

i don't think anyone's criticizing it because it isn't "proper" except for mr. ambassador james blake - i mean sure i enjoy the other stuff but i'm not really directly comparing it to brostyle which can be faulted entirely on it's own.

frogbs thing about it demanding your attention with fUCK YEaH vibes - what is wrong with that?

nothing at all if you're fine with music being reduced to mostly predictable material (and hyping itself based on said predictable material). no one's complaing about high impact / energetic music in general. see the michael bay subplot

fauxmarc, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink

(which isn't to say yon FUCK YEAH vibes are inherently the equivalent of a cheeseball scene in a melodramtic movie, but the music we're referring to in here is)

fauxmarc, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:32 (six years ago) Permalink

*ARE NOT INHERENTLY

I AM DONE.

fauxmarc, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Quite a lot of highly predictable italo, techno and rave has now been upgraded to classic status by the 40/50y old generation, so all is not lost dog latin...

Siegbran, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:38 (six years ago) Permalink

A lot of the backlash against this kind of music sounds to me like old men shouting at clouds. It's as though people aren't treating it as a style of music so much as an automatic joke that youngsters are duping themselves into. When I was a young buck I fucking lived for gabba, digital hardcore and jump up d'n'b - that was the music that spoke to me along with the standard issue punk, grunge and metal we used to love. There's no mystery that teenagers and 20, 30, 40 year olds enjoy high impact, energetic music. I get why people are against the proliferation of jokey dubstep versions of 80s songs and the throwaway YouTubeness that comes with it. But I don't subscribe to the idea that because it's not "proper dubstep" (whatever that is these days), it's not worth anyone's time. Sure it's a racket. Sure there's a lot of screeching and grinding and not a lot of sub. Sure Sonny Moore looks like a Vril-Ya crossed with Trent Reznor, but frogbs thing about it demanding your attention with fUCK YEaH vibes - what is wrong with that? Isn't that the point? this is fast becoming one of the most popular new youth-music styles in the world and we're all still talking in hushed tones about Kode9 and Shackleton as if dubstep's still some sacred underground thing that shouldn't be tainted by anything so gauche as a big build up or a distorted wob. I sat down and listened to Scary Monsters And Nice Sprites and one thing's certain - it's not throwaway music, it's meticulously created, bulging with sound and bloody good fun. Even if he does have a song that goes 'I want to kill everybody in the world'. But if i'd been an angry door slamming teen when this was out, I know what would have been my anthem.

― dog latin, Friday, October 28, 2011 2:15 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

you're right but also older people are supposed to make fun of younger people's music. it's the circle of life.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 28 October 2011 19:44 (six years ago) Permalink

i pretty much agree with ronan. i don't seek it out, but it's undeniably effective (especially when gaslamp killer drops it in the middle of a mix). the kids could do worse, even if they don't care much about the kind of electronic music i like.

btw seeing this video of some (pretty skilled) orange county bros covering skrillex made me realize that he hides some real melodies in there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuunY8BTqNs

this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2011 19:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah there's a lot of predictable copycat lame rubbish out there, but it doesn't really apply to an artist like skrillex, who really has got some splendid ideas in there. Don't see how it's any more predictable than any other genre. Reminds me of when all my metAl pals at school would tease me for liking rave because 'it's all just boom boom boom' and then later when I came round to metal, people would say it all goes 'dun dun durrrrr' or that it's 'just angry shouting' or when people say indie is just 'lame sings about cardigans'. Come on, if you want music that changes and excites, a bit of brostep does the trick.

dog latin, Friday, 28 October 2011 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

*lame songs

dog latin, Friday, 28 October 2011 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

(iPhone rants - I'm having a weird day)

dog latin, Friday, 28 October 2011 20:33 (six years ago) Permalink

ronan = local garda /= dog latin, fyi

The Reverend, Friday, 28 October 2011 20:54 (six years ago) Permalink

oh my bad, i'm always getting those user names confused for some reason, but i know who you guys are

this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2011 21:00 (six years ago) Permalink

btw what the hell is the bassist doing in that skrillex cover video?

The Reverend, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

i finally "got" skrillex when i realized he was in a screamo band (from first to last): a lot of his songs are really just screamo songs with electronic music sounds and wobble bass instead of chuggachugga guitar

∞th-wave ska (diamonddave85), Friday, 28 October 2011 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

xp looks like he has some sort of theremin-like midi controller on his thumb

∞th-wave ska (diamonddave85), Friday, 28 October 2011 21:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I have never seen such a thing before

The Reverend, Friday, 28 October 2011 21:13 (six years ago) Permalink

im also wondering about that glove he's wearing

∞th-wave ska (diamonddave85), Friday, 28 October 2011 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

looks like it might be this HotHand stuff: http://www.sourceaudio.net/products/hothand/index.php (found on one of the related videos, which are very lol)

∞th-wave ska (diamonddave85), Friday, 28 October 2011 21:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah there's a lot of predictable copycat lame rubbish out there, but it doesn't really apply to an artist like skrillex, who really has got some splendid ideas in there.

wait has this been verified

fauxmarc, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:39 (six years ago) Permalink

splendid might have been hyperbole. i don't wanna rep for him to hard, i mean, it's not the best thing in the world OMG, but it's fun, y'know.

dog latin, Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:02 (six years ago) Permalink

facebook's watching us

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fauxmarc, Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:08 (six years ago) Permalink

it's twitter and their recommended follows that freaks me out.

dog latin, Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:09 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i think i got insulted and logged off at a tiesto rec

fauxmarc, Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:11 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtQfqKOxwOI

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:21 (six years ago) Permalink

YES

fauxmarc, Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Classic. That guy's actual Reason tutorials are pretty good too.

dog latin, Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:55 (six years ago) Permalink

i kinda want skrillex to pick up the band format again and be like a teenage Battles

∞th-wave ska (diamonddave85), Saturday, 29 October 2011 00:56 (six years ago) Permalink

awesome

The Reverend, Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Quite a lot of highly predictable italo, techno and rave has now been upgraded to classic status by the 40/50y old generation, so all is not lost dog latin...

― Siegbran, Friday, October 28, 2011 7:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah I reviewed a compilation of stuff on [impt brostep label] Circus Records a few months back and put something at the end like "expect to see a critical rehabilitation of this stuff in about 2023"

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 29 October 2011 09:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah there's a lot of predictable copycat lame rubbish out there, but it doesn't really apply to an artist like skrillex, who really has got some splendid ideas in there.

Most of which he predictably copycatted off Reso and Lone Wolf off Bloodied Blade fame.

you want fries with that (flame grilled meat), Saturday, 29 October 2011 10:56 (six years ago) Permalink

the from first to last thing doesn't give the skrillah a pass, even they were pretty derivative mall screamo in that hawthore heights / everytime i die / thursday etc camp, he doesn't need to go back to the band thing unless it involved dubstep guitar and willing himself out of existence

fauxmarc, Saturday, 29 October 2011 11:40 (six years ago) Permalink

hah watching that cover performed live made me connect more with dubstep #rockist

dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:01 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess dubstep filters are the new 5150 RIP melodeth

dayo, Saturday, 29 October 2011 13:02 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah that drummer rules

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 29 October 2011 18:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I was kinda thinking that when you are reading sci fi dystopian novels and they talk about punks and cyberpunk and w/e you kind of picture these guitars with computers in them and that's what the guys in that video have, a fucking wireless thumbring that wobbles the bass and the azn guy's got a pda ducttaped next to the knobs and it's all gated digital clipped shards

BROSTEP IS THE MUSIC OF THE FUTURE GET ON THE BULLET TRAIN NOW

dayo, Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4H_f1yWM-E

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 31 October 2011 04:17 (six years ago) Permalink

THERE IS NEW BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD??? no way

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Monday, 31 October 2011 04:39 (six years ago) Permalink

yes!!!!!!!!!!!

and they watch and talk over clips of other MTV shows in addition to the videos.

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 31 October 2011 04:57 (six years ago) Permalink

B&B is still kinda before my time, but i'm shocked that this didn't even get like 10% of the overzealous internet reaction as arrested development

J0rdan S., Monday, 31 October 2011 05:00 (six years ago) Permalink

internet

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 31 October 2011 05:13 (six years ago) Permalink

eh, everyone loved beavis and butthead. my mom loved it. i didn't.

fauxmarc, Monday, 31 October 2011 06:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure internet reactions really existed at the time past mailing lists

fauxmarc, Monday, 31 October 2011 06:18 (six years ago) Permalink

he's talking about how bevis & butthead are back w/ new episodes, just like arrested development.

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 31 October 2011 06:28 (six years ago) Permalink

like, now. in 2011. watching skrillex videos.

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 31 October 2011 06:28 (six years ago) Permalink

ya it's p awesome (not skrillex)

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Monday, 31 October 2011 09:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Sure it's a racket. Sure there's a lot of screeching and grinding and not a lot of sub. Sure Sonny Moore looks like a Vril-Ya crossed with Trent Reznor, but frogbs thing about it demanding your attention with fUCK YEaH vibes - what is wrong with that? Isn't that the point?

There's nothing wrong with that if its what you choose to listen to. I really like Guitar Wolf and Squarepusher but I wouldn't play it at a party.

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2011 13:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Would you play Kode9 at a party?

Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:36 (six years ago) Permalink

There's loads of stuff I like that I wouldn't play at a party.

Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Monday, 31 October 2011 13:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't, but I still hear this stuff all the damn time

frogbs, Monday, 31 October 2011 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

http://uedi.com/images/male-female-aerobics-100-14.jpg

owenf, Monday, 31 October 2011 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

that dev remix upthread is awesome

∞th-wave ska (diamonddave85), Monday, 31 October 2011 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

sayin

The Reverend, Monday, 31 October 2011 20:42 (six years ago) Permalink

the dancin in the dark one?

dayo, Monday, 31 October 2011 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah

The Reverend, Monday, 31 October 2011 23:37 (six years ago) Permalink

hah I actually downloaded that and it didn't occur to me that it's brostep

dayo, Monday, 31 October 2011 23:57 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9CALKOvAI

posting this because of the brostep bridge

dayo, Monday, 31 October 2011 23:58 (six years ago) Permalink

xp naaaaw

I'm hanging on to "brastep" for girly stuff.

― Tim F, Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:07 PM Bookmark

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:24 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah my plan was to just let that one slink away into the night

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 06:01 (six years ago) Permalink

That "Bubble Pop" song makes me want to brush my teeth.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

so he's basically just the go-to renaissance man now

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

always thought van dyke parks needed more DROPS

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 05:39 (six years ago) Permalink

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 10:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Were there this many embarrassing Moby collabs a decade ago? (Don't answer that.)

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:04 (six years ago) Permalink

What's Moby got to do with Van Dyke Parks?

Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I know I've been Cap'n Save A Skrillex on this thread, but Van Dyke Parks arranging for him is plain unacceptable.

Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:15 (six years ago) Permalink

DUB
STEP

(NOT BROSTEP!)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/kitbrash/notbrostep.jpg

the men who glare at stoats (sic), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

brilliant.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I dig the idea of Biebstep

latebloomer, Friday, 4 November 2011 05:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean, I'd rather listen to Bieber than Korn

The Reverend, Friday, 4 November 2011 05:41 (six years ago) Permalink

is it brohouse (with relevant skrillah mention)?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/fashion/a-200000-a-night-dj-known-as-kaskade-is-really-ryan-raddon-a-mormon.html

fauxmarc, Sunday, 13 November 2011 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

@wolfpupy
wolf puppy
"this machine from the future plays some sort of new amazing dub step" the teens gather around the 56k modem in awe.

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, 14 November 2011 22:38 (six years ago) Permalink

what does wolf puppy do

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 00:14 (six years ago) Permalink

There are something like at least three threads about this on new answers now. Ilx is deep onto dubstep

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 00:45 (six years ago) Permalink

i feel this is the thread to rule them all

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 00:59 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uww6UcE9mAE

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 01:21 (six years ago) Permalink

offf course there is

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 01:35 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUgK_RYjj2o

One ring to rule them all...

I miss brostepforum :(

Can we make ILM into brostepforum 2.0?

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 02:22 (six years ago) Permalink

ILBS!

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 10:24 (six years ago) Permalink

re hyuna's brostep bridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM3ZCVzR_Cw

blah blah blah, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 11:50 (six years ago) Permalink

can't see the video cos at work. is that Soom T MC-ing?

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 12:22 (six years ago) Permalink

it's some kpop group with proper bass.

blah blah blah, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 13:39 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyKWyYOy_No

The Reverend, Saturday, 14 January 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I remember encountering and being delighted by a track Trolley Snatcha - The Future on some YouTube novelty video two years ago and hungrily tracking down the other artists then labeled filthstep and being dissappointed. It's kinda stunning how its blown up since then.

It reminds me of the moment in 1991 when Nirvana broke and my Sonic Youth fan pals and I were so enthused that grunge would clear the lingering hair metal and new jack swing from the radio. That didn't turn out well.

Still like this unofficial remix from 2 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQEBli96U4

I want them to be better. (Sanpaku), Saturday, 14 January 2012 21:38 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah if WEETABIX DUBSTEP doesn't put the coffin nails in reynolds-style formalist analysis of dance music i don't know what does

the late great, Sunday, 15 January 2012 00:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Poor Skrillex.

beachville, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 13:58 (five years ago) Permalink

It must be pretty disheartening to have a fanbase made up entirely of people like that. He should make a minimal ambient record just to fuck with em.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:04 (five years ago) Permalink

still waiting for the drop!!

mh, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:30 (five years ago) Permalink

where's the drop? What is this???

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 15:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Put a banging drop on it.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 15:17 (five years ago) Permalink

i just made a slow, pretty brostep track to see if it would work. minimal ambient wobbles.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 15:50 (five years ago) Permalink

but does it have a drop?

owenf, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

yes but it is very soft and polite

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:32 (five years ago) Permalink

a drizzle

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Skrillex is gonna be the new Gerry Rafferty in 10 years time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSTr7rb1_Y

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Wondering where this ranks on the brostep charts (at least there's a drop):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mDdP82eBLM&feature=related

EDB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:00 (five years ago) Permalink

dont really feel like thats brostep

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 19 January 2012 22:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Not even remotely

Number None, Friday, 20 January 2012 11:44 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^love that

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:11 (five years ago) Permalink

omg markers = skrillex

Another Wein bites the dust (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 20 January 2012 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

i just made a slow, pretty brostep track to see if it would work. minimal ambient wobbles.

and here it is: http://theprojectlodge.bandcamp.com/track/halogen-2

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2012 15:56 (five years ago) Permalink

fwiw, thats a 'shop: skrillex posted an aphex twin song not "miss you"

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 23 January 2012 22:59 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

dave cool elsewhere in the world:

I'm trying to be the guy that defends brostep, but you guys are making it extra fucking hard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpXEXBZH-VE

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2QT_jaf2-c

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:12 (five years ago) Permalink

#SKRILLWAVE

#DROPCORE

#MALLSTEP

Chris S, Sunday, 19 February 2012 12:38 (five years ago) Permalink

on a big genre coinage trip lately

Chris S, Sunday, 19 February 2012 12:39 (five years ago) Permalink

this isn't brostep but man it feels like it

Avicii - "Levels"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ91VPOgasQ

this is going to soundtrack so many questionable mardi gras moments it's not even funny

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 13:52 (five years ago) Permalink

i know "Levels" is a few months old now, but i just finally realized that this song i'd been hearing everywhere actually is a song that has a name and not kind of background memory-amalgam of every other middling euro anthem i've ever heard

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 13:53 (five years ago) Permalink

i've never actually heard the original just remixes before, i'd actually picked up quality's raved-out bmore club mix

http://soundcloud.com/unorthodoxquality/aviici-levels-qualo-more-remix

re: the original it sounds more standard clubhouse / trance than *step though

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

this isn't brostep but man it feels like it

k

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:08 (five years ago) Permalink

big, loud, obnoxious, electronic, not dubstep

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:05 (five years ago) Permalink

not brostep*

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:05 (five years ago) Permalink

closer to david guetta ibiza-fart

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:09 (five years ago) Permalink

ibiza bloodfart

The Reverend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:31 (five years ago) Permalink

lol was that the original term whiney coined?

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah

The Reverend, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:40 (five years ago) Permalink

lol gr8 term

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:52 (five years ago) Permalink

can I just

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bEDM4bsfWg

the tune is space, Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean that video / "song" / look / aesthetic combo is like a perfect storm of bad taste of Chernobyl proportions so . . . be warned

but does it technically belong here because it uses that dubstep-lite beat ala Magnetic Man "I need Air", even thought it doesn't have a wub wub drop?

the tune is space, Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:46 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's attractive

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:50 (five years ago) Permalink

no wub no wub

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4TnMHwikRY

Chris S, Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:44 (five years ago) Permalink

everything about that is brostep

Chris S, Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:44 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIv-qsH40m0

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 15:14 (five years ago) Permalink

lol

The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:17 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

It's been a long time since a blogpost made me do a complete 180 on a genre, but this piece from Leaving Earth on wobble is officially my favorite thing ever right now - 10 WOBBLE RECORDS

Some of Taninian's recommended jams from 21C rave:

Wicky Lindows label

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74oSuCAu1Jk

Nevamis: Nevamis EP (Down South Dub, 2008)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PDavUTeRYY

Akira Kiteshi: Pinball (Black Acre, 2009)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veupiMmt6gg

Borgore: Borgore Ruined Dubstep part 2 (Buygore, 2010)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFOnFdLPZ1Q

Silent Frequencies/Document One: Game Over EP (Neostep, 2011)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Gjk0QbQ_I

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:38 (five years ago) Permalink

"What did the dj play at your prom," I asked. "Too much brostep," my son responded.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Kids today.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:08 (five years ago) Permalink

What I like about this account is that hardcore continuum discussions in my experience have tended to emphasize the UK pirate radio thread the past few years, from breakbeat through to jungle, d'n'b, ukg, dubstep/grime, etc. So that this style could only ever be viewed as an outside influence highjacking the sound and 'ruining' it. But that post from Taninian makes a compelling case for this being the return of Eurorave and trashy glory era of hardcore, especially things like Belgian hardcore based on electronic dance riffs (with the wobble replacing the mentasm), and a rollercoaster madness of spectacular special fx with b-grade sci-fi/horror samples. Plus a deliberate attempt to break all categories of taste and generally piss people off.

Leaving the Earth more or less makes the case above. Maybe this is all really obvious, but I honestly hadn't bothered paying attention to dubstep for a long while, and when this stuff started coming out, I was equally indifferent until I had to develop some opinion on Skrillex.

One thing that maybe changes, however, is that wobble/brostep fully embraces digital and networked technologies, so it has this hiding in the light quality, and an output on YouTube, soundcloud, MP3 mixes, etc. that dwarfs earlier excesses of rave over-production, also probably a wider hit to miss ratio.

Anyway, Reynolds has some thoughts over here: http://blissout.blogspot.nl/2012/06/and-from-one-black-sheep-of-postrave.html - including a shout-out to the 'ambient/intelligent' response to wobble with dungeon-style dubstep, which after some Googling I discover is also a thing that exists. I've gotta say, this sample track is dope:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AZ-Cv8SG0KU

Anyway, sorry for the semi-serious post btw, not even sure this is the right thread to post on. Probably not. It's just some of this stuff has got me amped the past day or so, I don't have a blog so I post here. Not sure if any ilxors actually listens to any of this style?

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 09:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Anyway, sorry for the semi-serious post btw

Nothing to feel sorry about

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:48 (five years ago) Permalink

not exactly his fault but lol @ SR doing another wobble-themed blog post yesterday and banging on about eastern European cinema rather than the actual source of the title, Nathan Barley

geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:17 (five years ago) Permalink

SR very much in character

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:24 (five years ago) Permalink

I know people who make this style of music, run nights and play it out here in Amsterdam. And I have to admit I was really beyond dismissive. Now I'm thinking there's certainly more going on. Not sure if I'm ready to check it out live though!

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Re: SR in character, yeah but this is when he's actually worth reading. I'd even say that Leaving Earth out-Reynolds him on this! ;) That grunt-step quote about the cyber-pigs with the green ooze for this Tomba track below is classic. I've been thinking about it all week...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq7z6TEpGOw

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Not being at work to listen to these, I'm not sure I understand... Are people saying that this kind of music is now worth listening to? Or is this a different style? Cos I'd hate to say I told you so...

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Sorry, I mis-typed that. I'm at work and can't listen to these, is what I meant. Also - hasn't dubstep been truly mainstream for at least 18 months or more now? IDGI

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't think anyone is saying it isn't mainstream.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Must have misread the SR blog then... oh well

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I love the way it pisses of all sort of old guards (within dupstep or otherwise), and the fact that its bloody everywhere, with tons of crap being pumped out. That’s how it should be, a sign that it truly have made an impact. I can’t say the current dubstep mainstream (“brostep”, or “EDM”, apparently) does that much for me, but then, I haven’t expected it to do so. Rather than bandwagon jumping drum’n’bass producers, the wobble aesthetic now seem to be fusing with electro house, to form a new all purpose rave music, much like punk rawness/intensity eventually ended up as a part of a wider “real rock” sensibility in the eighties. It’s all about the Skrillex/ Deadmau5-axis, of course, and while Deadmau5 doesn’t seem all that exiting to me, Skrillex is actually pretty good. Sure, he might not have that many tricks up his sleeve so far, and the electro house part of the equation is a bit of a drawback, but he’s nevertheless really good at using wobbles potential for catchiness and dynamics, redefining it to meet his own ends. It would be tempting to go all the way and see him as some sort of, I dunno, dubsteps Sex Pistols, but that would be taking it too far. Perhaps something like Metallica is probably a better comparison, if a historical comparison have to be made.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:33 (five years ago) Permalink

My own view of all this is kind of informed by the fact that a friend of mine makes and plays dubstep that, while not quite as in your face as a lot of stuff itt, definitely leans toward the populist side of the genre, and it's all really enjoyable and fun to dance to if I'm in the right mood. And so that has me feeling more charitable towards a lot of this stuff than I was on initial contact.

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

including a shout-out to the 'ambient/intelligent' response to wobble with dungeon-style dubstep, which after some Googling I discover is also a thing that exists

there is already a "coffee table bass" thread on ILM

tell you what, though, arguing something is good because it pisses the wrong people off is not going to get me to listen to it

the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:32 (five years ago) Permalink

seriously, a tired argument. icp's music pisses people off - so great, they made an impact. it's still wack.

fauxmarc, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

it's only tired after you're like 25 or 30 which i'm pretty sure s.r. is

the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

that's the guy SR linked to saying that not SR himself

not a big fan of that line of thinking either but he is v readable in his praise for this ish I think

geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

True, but the pissing people off aspect is totally visible in this thread. The tracks from LtE above, I would never have listen to given the way that 'brostep' is dealt with by music journalists as a joke, as annoying, as noisy, trashy, cheap, as something that the kids are into, etc. But some of these tracks are really great, I can totally hear echoes of things I LOVE in them, like hardcore and breakbeat house - early Prodigy and XL stuff, Hyper-On Experience, etc. These are all clearly rave tracks for the Soundcloud, YouTube, downloaded ProTools and pirated sample pack era. There's nothing weird about just embracing available tools however possible and go for 'the drop.'

By contrast, I'm actually reminded of this totally arrogant and kind of asshole-ish chart on Beatport by Nicolas Jaar - http://www.beatport.com/chart/nicolas-jaar-july-chart/37443 - whose own music is nothing but tasteful coffee-table house if you put them side by side, paying homage not only to ancestors of house/jazz/soul, etc, but also the recent history of minimal itself.

So OK, maybe it's the same politics as usual. I'm just surprised that I never even gave this genre the time of day. Could even be related to my age, first hearing 'brostep'-ish developments, I have to admit, did make me feel old :/

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:15 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't see what's so arrogant and asshole-ish about that beatport chart?

the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

lol i know right

bringing nicholas jaar in to a discussion abt how brostep pisses ppl off is pretty o_O

♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:20 (five years ago) Permalink

can't see it at work, is that just the one where it's just a collection of silly tracks?

tbh I think he's halfway forgotten by 2012 but making a one-time funny isn't much to be offended by

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:24 (five years ago) Permalink

ok, ignore my second sentence, that one started off as two thoughts and ended up as zero

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:24 (five years ago) Permalink

How would you describe that chart then? (genuinely curious)

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:26 (five years ago) Permalink

making a halfhearted funny?

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean, Nicolas Jaar strikes me as a pretty nice guy, not one of the James Blake butthurt school, so he probably just thought it'd be entertaining?

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:30 (five years ago) Permalink

also that Tetris theme remix in there is one of the funniest things I've ever listened to

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:31 (five years ago) Permalink

lol otm

goole, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm sure Nicolas Jaar is a lovely guy. In fact, that move seemed even out of character when I saw it somehow. But I guess that speaks to the consensus position on wobbly dubstep.

And OK, the Tetris theme remix is stoopid (that's the point, isn't it?), it's right in the Sesame's Treet terrain, but Doctor P's track Garoyle is on an entirely different level imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqqAQ7CEAVQ

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:40 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, but that isn't on the playlist :)

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean, I didn't ask the guy personally what his deal with the playlist was (if this thread was last week, I could have gone to his panel at mutek and done so, but..) throwing a bunch of stuff that is really meatheaded and of-the-moment on a playlist seems just goofy to me

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:43 (five years ago) Permalink

ugh do i really have to pick a side of either yon brosteppers or the minimal crowd? where's the plank i'll just walk that instead

fauxmarc, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry, it's brostep or nothing. But if you pick brostep you get a complimentary Korn album

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Wow, it's not about choosing sides, surely. Not for us anyway.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:50 (five years ago) Permalink

I would say though, a dude like Nicholas Jaar might be better served than to draw attention to the tastefulness of his music (I also can't believe we're now discussing this)...

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

idk if that's the point

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

unless your fetish for this music is that it's not "tasteful"

I mean, there have been pretty intellectual dudes making flat-out crazy and silly dance music forever, but there are also total meatheads. I don't know that intellect or "good/bad" taste come into it from a one-off joke

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

like... could Jaar have been POKING FUN AT HIMSELF by posting that?

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

There's so many possibilities :)

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink

idk, being 22 years old and being near a college campus sounds like it'd be a way to get tired of bros and brostep pretty fast

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:04 (five years ago) Permalink

In any case, this isn't criticism of Jaar (I own some of his records, if that matters to you). But I do think the chart was weird. If its a sign of his own insecurities or a plea for laughs, he went for this genre either way. And honestly, I'm starting to regret linking to that chart...

MikoMcha, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:06 (five years ago) Permalink

given the way that 'brostep' is dealt with by music journalists as a joke, as annoying, as noisy, trashy, cheap, as something that the kids are into, etc. But some of these tracks are really great, I can totally hear echoes of things I LOVE in them, like hardcore and breakbeat house - early Prodigy and XL stuff, Hyper-On Experience, etc

early XL stuff and Prodigy and the like were also cheap and things the kids were into and there were undoubtedly old people bitching about them then, with some of the critical olds occasionally saying they were ok

big obvious things that lots of young people like are always mocked, nothing new to see here

mh, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Well, yeah. That's sort of what I'm getting at, except for that final part of there nothing new to see here. It's both a return and mutation of rave aesthetics.

And there's another possibility, of course, that the Jaar list is genuine endorsement! ;)

MikoMcha, Friday, 8 June 2012 10:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Carnival madness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBg-_6yXP9k&feature=related

MikoMcha, Friday, 8 June 2012 10:58 (five years ago) Permalink

This has been an interesting revive (though it's played havoc on my last.fm stats oh dear, I'm going to blame that on the hacking, shall I? It can't possibly be me listening to all that Doctor P and SKisM and terrible, terrible things.)

I started looking at this stuff because I accidentally fell in love with a track I suspect to be Brostep-ish, I know to be objectively horrible, and yet I still have become completely obsessed with. And my question was kind of "HOW the fuck did this genre get from X to Y?" (Being someone who only really pays attention when a breakout single from a genre crosses over enough to be ubiquitous.) Where X was probably Night by Benga & Coki and Y was someone saying "well, Full Attention is probably a better fusion of that Dubstep-Pop sound than Britney Spears" when I liked *both* Full Attention and Femme Fatale.

I suppose it's a cliche to find genres interesting either 1) when they haven't fully coalesced yet and they're still quite wide open or 2) when they're so overblown (in a floral sense) and past their prime that they start to totally disintegrate.

But listening to this stuff is the same sense I get sifting through freakbeat/garage pop nuggets from the 60s. That when a genre is this big, this crossed-over/successful and this *active* that due to sheer volume there is going to be some of it that is actually really interesting - especially when the whole hook to the genre is "let's make the freakiest, most fucked-up sounding wacky carnival of sounds using a mass produced version of new technology." Maybe Fruity-Loops is to this kinda music what Vox was to the 60s or the cheap digital delay was to the 90s. If not just dozens or hundreds but thousands of people hear a sound on pop radio or clubs and try to recreate it, with varying degrees of success or mutation, 99% of it might be garbage but the 1% that turns out to be Voices Green And Purple or Sweet Shop is going to make it worth digging through.

But I'm so far removed from this, I don't have to deal with context or bros. (Or S Reynolds unless someone on ILX links to him.) For me, it's just seeing someone on twitter complaining about "wub-step" and me going "hang on, WUB is my favourite sound in the world, are you saying there's WUB in it now coz ifso no matter what it is, I am there." The references to Dungeons & Dragons and green goo type stuff just seems, well, silly to me, because I am not nor have I ever been a teenage boy. But the carnival aspect of some of this sounds a lot more psychedelic in a "whoa, what the fuck was that sound?" than music which is slotted into the "Psychedelic" genre.

Jaar is someone whose music I just can't see the point of, though. It's mystifying to me. But BeatPort charts are also kind mystifying to me tho I know DJs love doing them.

Coolyplay G (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 9 June 2012 08:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Going through the Wicky Lindows stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKutvCtVk9c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BwaEg0tOj4

MikoMcha, Saturday, 9 June 2012 10:22 (five years ago) Permalink

k clearly they're dancing to house but still

http://media.laweekly.com/7932028.0.jpg

Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:47 (five years ago) Permalink

That guy stepped in something.

Evan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:52 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't know about that, if that dork w/ the white shorts and sunglasses is on beat the beats are definitely in the 135-140 range (which i suppose could be like hard trance or whatever)

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:53 (five years ago) Permalink

hello sailor

owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:55 (five years ago) Permalink

tiesto

mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:55 (five years ago) Permalink

http://media.laweekly.com/7932028.0.jpgp

do the brostep!

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:02 (five years ago) Permalink

dude in what looks like furs and shorts and slippers on the far left is pretty cool tho

owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:04 (five years ago) Permalink

he's like the token rave shaman

Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:06 (five years ago) Permalink

How does one become a rave shaman?

owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:08 (five years ago) Permalink

dunno but raves always have a few of those guys, at least the Cali ones

Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:12 (five years ago) Permalink

i frankyl can't believe how this thread's turned.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:29 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDpXAZhLZFo

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 04:10 (five years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

we've come a long way, baby

https://twitter.com/RaveSnob/statuses/301467708426448897 @RaveSnob

the ACTUAL fact of brostep being the soundtrack the State of the Union address HOW. EVEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwuEnyV1Cb0

don't call it a cloud rap i've been high for years (zvookster), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:33 (four years ago) Permalink

state of brounion

mh, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:18 (four years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

#FOLKSTEP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7iHfhBfRKs

why should we donate to the keeplove movement?

dsb, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:50 (four years ago) Permalink

For the topical but not necessarily political - though the news prompting this is likely to get very political.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303

apparent eyewitness account:
https://twitter.com/BOYADEE

v

woof, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:55 (four years ago) Permalink

Oops sorry phone made a post with ancient fragment from other thread

woof, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:56 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

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