Lil Wayne - Tha Carter IV... HORSEMEN

might as well, right?

even tho the new single is just a remake of ross' "i'm not a star" i still think it's pretty good until wayne goes full grocery bag in the third verse

http://hulkshare.com/uqpeddhpzp7m

haha i thought you were just exaggerating about the beat being similar but yeah half the song is lines from "I'm Not A Star"...that's actually one of the 3 Ross songs ever that i really fuck with, though, so i think that's kinda dope, even if it seems totally arbitrary and bizarre for Wayne to do as a single.

ehh his flow's kind of boring and metronomic here. just make the hot boys reunion album already...

i would've liked a hot boy reunion album like 4 years ago but if lil wayne is gonna grocery bag all over an album i'd prefer it to be something i didn't have an intrinsic stake in

also i like 'six foot seven foot' a lot (minus gunz of course) but i'd be happy if something else pushed it off radio playlists a bit

i'm not sure i've ever heard a hot boyz album :/

"guerilla warfare" is pretty good, the others not so much unless you're a cash money fan. i would settle for a weezy/mannie/juve collabo, though the others are good in their own right. but yeah 6 foot 7 foot is one of his best recent releases, hope he continues in that direction

"get it how u live" is great too

lol this song is called "john" apparently, which is an utterly terrible name & so much less awesome than if they could've called it "john lennon"

haha what the fuck

also, polow's involvement in this song is puzzling me

My 11 year old son wrote a story for school entitled "The Best Day Ever" that involved him meeting some friends and one of them giving him Tha Carter IV. The teacher corrected "Tha" to "The".

lol so the single for ross' new album is ANOTHER ross/wayne re-make -- this time they excised t.i.'s verse from "9 piece" & threw a wayne verse on there

breaking news: 30 year old music genre starts to repeat itself

full story at 5pm

you listen to drone music

yes but drone repeats itself over and over and over on purpose (hence the name), not b/c it's running out of ideas :/

"John" (lol) is so damn lazy it's ridiculous.

hey ilxor what about all those genres that are older than rap

"John" (lol) is so damn lazy it's ridiculous.

― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, April 4, 2011 3:28 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

aren't you the guy who'd be OK with Wayne rapping the phonebook? at least he's retreading a good song.

That's a pretty exaggerated take on what I said. And "I'm Not a Star" >>>>

i like "john" a lot -- i did a mock up of my first quarter top 10 and wayne appears three times so i'm trying to figure out why that is

What were the other two?

I still can't get over the fact that the song is called "John"

he's (obviously) still a far cry away from when he was GREAT but he seems to be rapping w/ more purpose & focus now -- that's a big vague but more specifically it seems like he's at least temporarily dropped a lot of his bad habits (i.e. laughing at his own jokes) (though not all i.e. grocery bagging, excessive "the earth is a girl" metaphors) -- also for the time being at least he's not doing gross 'pop' stuff like the i'm not a human being/young money stuff that immediately preceded his sentence -- seems like he wants to go back to street shit a bit & i dig that

"john", "look at me now" & "hustle hard (remix)"

I wouldn't have problems with him doing a pop joint or two if they were more "Lollipop" and less "Bedrock".

I would f/w "Look at Me Now" but fuck Chris Brown.

i'm kinda interested in the way he's now dropped 2 straight up rap singles (whereas w/ C3 he dropped "Lollipop" and "A Milli" simultaneously), i'm assuming he does have some shameless crossover single coming before the album drops but i have no idea whether it'll be a predictable R&B singer(or Drake)-assisted AutoTune extravaganza or something else entirely.

other than the "real G's move in silence like lasagna" slow burner I can't say he's done any rapping I care about at all post-prison, though, he has dropped some annoying tics but he's hardly back to pre-C3 level.

Yeah, I pretty much appreciate him coming out with two rappin'-ass rap songs right away even if I think one of them sucks.

http://cdn.concreteloop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/lil_wayne_cover.jpg

idk why people were getting all OMG about that cover which is a fairly obvious next step from tha carter iii

It's kind of cute.

kinda feel like people on the internet now are just constantly feigning SHOCK and AMAZEMENT at totally in character album covers like Wayne's and Gaga's

it's hilarious & awesome

it's the exact same concept as his album cover from 2008

It's not OMG SURPRISE but it is funny.

It's the facial expression primarily

Reminds of that poster for The 40 Year Old Virgin, staring hopefully into the future kind of thing

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idk why people were getting all OMG about that cover which is a fairly obvious next step from tha carter iii

― lex pretend, donderdag 21 april 2011 13:01 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

OTM. It's a kid, smiling. How OMG FANTASTIC is that after his previous album covers?

fwiw i think the OMG thing is about the photoshopped present day Wayne tattoos on the face of child Wayne, but again he did that w/ the last album so it's kinda ho hum

The same thing can be cute and funny more than once, dudes.

kinda feel like people on the internet now are just constantly feigning SHOCK and AMAZEMENT at totally in character album covers like Wayne's and Gaga's

Well in the case of Gaga< I think a lot of the shock comes from the fact that it looks like a bad photoshop job. But maybe bad photoshop jobs are in character for Gaga...

oh it is cute and funny, i agree, it's just not very OMG WTF

^^ indeed

The same thing can be cute and funny more than once, dudes.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 21 April 2011 13:59 (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah this is p lol cmon

partly bcuz it doesnt look like a rap album cover

would've been funnier with present day wayne wearing that outfit imo

could not be funnier u are idiots

OH MY GOD ITS THE NEW BIG BEAR WAYNE IS RUNNING THANGS AMIRITE

partly bcuz it doesnt look like a rap album cover

yes it does! it looks like a very specific rap album cover! that sold a lot of copies not very long ago!

when you think about it what *is* a rap album anyway?

yah this is p lol cmon

partly bcuz it doesnt look like a rap album cover

― geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), donderdag 21 april 2011 19:34 (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

Uhhhmm, what Lex said, it looks just like its predecessor? And that is only partly why it's "p lol"? What's the other part? I must be missing out on a HUEG amount of LOLS and HILARITY here.

To make things worse, this ridiculous orgasmic gawking over this unfunny, unoriginal cover has made me completely agree with the Lex. Damnit.

ok shut up

no it looks like a 12 year old in a graduation gown

if only there was some sort of precedent for rappers putting little kids on their album covers that are supposed to represent them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktDeFS8KZPs

http://www.myguitarsolo.com/500Albums/Pics500/400Nas%20-%20Illmatic.jpg

hahaha look at this guys

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/8c13dc6f8d23800563063f75c5213a7f/9079.jpg

a baby with an afro what?!

i mean i guess its funny because wayne still has a tattoo of an erect penis between his eyebrows

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_o22Ef2hfHHU/TUBvpT1MKII/AAAAAAAABeE/cLsyO2PTO9U/s400/DB%2BTha%2BGeneral%2B-%2BThe%2BYoung%2BO.G.%2BII%2B%255B2011%255D.jpg

omg

theres a big diff whiney & its that the wayne cover looks goofy as shit

alright looks like the joke has been thoroughly killed

on to the next one, boys

dude don't be talkin that illuminati shit

This is the worst Wayne single ever:

http://www.lilwaynehq.com/2011/05/26/lil-wayne-how-to-love/

i kinda like it?

the production's pretty thin but the vocal is kinda nice as far as LIl Wayne Sings! songs go

No, this is awful. And I love "Lollipop."

You really think it's worse than the stuff he released off of Rebirth?

My 11 year old son wrote a story for school entitled "The Best Day Ever" that involved him meeting some friends and one of them giving him Tha Carter IV. The teacher corrected "Tha" to "The".

― death, taxes and (onimo), Friday, April 1, 2011 9:27 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

^ slept-on post

I do. Rebirth was an ugly album, but at least Wayne full sold that material; there was an energy and enthusiasm to it that I found endearing, even if I didn't much care for the actual music. But this... yikes.

what the shit is this? wow how terrible

i like this a lot -- this is kinda much closer to, like, "mrs. officer" to me than "lollipop"

interested in who wrote this

this could be a ne-yo song

theoretically speaking

This is the worst Wayne single ever:

http://www.lilwaynehq.com/2011/05/26/lil-wayne-how-to-love/

― Evan R, Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:25 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah this is infinitely better than any single off 'i'm not a human being'

when those backing synths come in i feel like i'm listening to destroyer

I was going to say that people who think this is his worst single ever have been pretty fortunate to have ignored everything he's released since Carter III. I'm with jordan, I like this.

it's inoffensive but there's nothing to like about it

I wish I were listening to destroyer

that chord progression gets really old really fast

destroyer: more interesting chord progressions than lil wayne

geir needs to take our boi 2 skool get him up on some real shit

this song is ultra boring, needs more augs and sus chords IMO

i wonder if wayne has learned any chords on the guitar he's been playing for the past 4 years yet

it's inoffensive but there's nothing to like about it

― bernard snowy, Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:52 PM Bookmark

otm

needs more augh chords

this suxx yeah

destroyer: more interesting chord progressions than lil wayne

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

destroyer songs are just as repetitive in terms of chords obviously, they just have better grooves+arrangements
lil wayne's flow is still better than dan bejar's tho I'll give him that

ugh why is 'how to love' stuck in my head

what is this nu-wayne??

http://www.wikihow.com/Love

lol

Never stop loving. Even if you have been hurt before you should not stop giving love.

AuBreeZyG7 Cool Breeze
my excitement for Carter IV is less than that of my excitement for the new colors of mountain dew. I don't drink soda.

this shit sucks

gonna go get a 40 to pour out while i listen to this

liveblog?

http://i.imgur.com/39bk3.jpg

I like "Megaman".... otherwise, this album is really awful. I mean, I wasn't expecting much but his rapping is like... Uncle Murda levels of terrible.

I mean, even 'Megaman' has the punchlines "Have it your way... BURGER KING" and "Tools on deck nigga... HOME DEPOT"

i'm kind of curious whether this album will or can be seen as any kind of failure, like the buzz around it seemed so muted even before the leak despite him being on the radio more than ever

when it waynes it pours no really

surprise three stacks verse, at least!

xp if it doesn't do 4-500k I think it'll be looked at as a commercial failure, at least.

there are some good guest verses on here yeah, Nas' verse is great. Jada's is cool too.

this album is really awful. I mean, I wasn't expecting much but his rapping is like... Uncle Murda levels of terrible.

― my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:31 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

i thought maybe we'd get some shit on the level of like "comfortable" or "dr. carter" or "you ain't got nuthin" but everything is pretty, preeeeeetty, preeeeeetty poor

liveblog?

― some dude, Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:26 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark

heh, i'm going out now, so i'm gonna have to skip this one

i'm kind of curious whether this album will or can be seen as any kind of failure, like the buzz around it seemed so muted even before the leak despite him being on the radio more than ever

― some dude, Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:46 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

i had this thought, too. honestly this is below my expectations bcuz i think it's the first time he's really not been able to carry his own album

Literally cant tell the difference between Wayne and Drake on 'She Will'

these bitches think they're fly like tinkerbell
but they all on my wire like stringer bell

hmm

I barely made it through the song that the various hip hop blogs are claiming is a "Jay-Z diss" - what does he say, exactly?
(I had to bail after "I lay 'em down.... TEMPURPEDIC")

'Outro' is okay, for Busta if nothing else.

don't fuck up with wayne, cause when it waynes it pours? seriously? my roommate is listening to this in the background of my apartment and it makes me want to cry.

surprise kat stacks verse, at least!

― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^that would be exciting

it's the best worst feeling
if i die, i live a death worth living

^wtf is this supposed to mean?

i don't even understand how the original Jay-Z "Baby money" line was a Wayne diss

he's a zombie xpost

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leau6jdMMO1qc8qv5o1_500.jpg

blunt blowin' is ok i guess

that first song sucked ass

yeah to get my grumpy old man on...rap beef is so fucking passive aggressive and vague now...like jesus bring back some vicious shit like "no vaseline" or "2nd round ko" or something...all these nonsensical subliminals are so lame

i deleted this & downloaded an old sqad tape i hadnt heard instead <--highly recommended

it's the best worst feeling
if i die, i live a death worth living

^wtf is this supposed to mean?

― velvet underground - reloaded (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:42 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i've been meaning to create some kind of blog or twitter meme or something about horrible 'wisdom' in Weezy lyrics like "if it ain't broke don't break it" or "see if you can lend an opinion before you make one"

would subscribe

"She Will" is almost great, the rest is almost awful.

i don't even understand how the original Jay-Z "Baby money" line was a Wayne diss

― ✇ ruehl (some dude), Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:44 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm not even sure that it's actually a diss! this is the problem when you take the name "baby" imo

but then again i think ppl on the intenet are always looking for subliminal disses that don't exist

yeah totally. i took the line as Baby was on the Forbes list, so Jay uses him as an example of people non-wealthy rappers claim to be as rich as.

the worst one recently was people claiming drake was "dissing" jay-z & kanye on "i'm on one" by saying "the throne is for the taking / watch me take it" (or whatever) -- and then ppl were saying that kanye DISSED DRAKE by saying "niggas talking real reckless / stuntmen"

just the vaguest possible shit

talkin real DRAKELESS

three wishes ... i wish i wish i wish u would

Never mind 2005-2008, how did Wayne go from "6 Foot 7 Foot" to this? I don't know that it's terrible like some people are saying here - Wayne's performance is generally lax, but the beats are pretty good throughout - but he had 3 years to do this, and he's contributed more than an album's worth of excellent verses elsewhere in that time. I mean, this is a substantial dropoff even from I Am Not A Human Being, which was supposed to be rejected tracks. Maybe he needs to start saving his best work in one place rather than starting from scratch on long-aborning projects every six months because the mood strikes him. Or maybe all the drugs actually worked for him, to a point anyway. Or maybe he just hasn't figured out what a clean and sober Weezy is supposed to sound like.

i doubt he's 100% sober

he exhausted the territory he excels at and lost his passion for rapping and got more interested in pretending to play the guitar years ago basically

Weezy lyrics like "if it ain't broke don't break it"

i actually really like this but i break a lot of stuff so

like i can imagine it becoming a sort of mantra or useful when-in-rome style idiom that i actually incorporate into my day

loving gold cobra so far, btw, real return to form :)

lol

I was killing time in a Best Buy today and was sad to see Andre didn't even warrant a credit on the back cover, even though Tech N9ne got one for their "interlude".

lol c'mon dude

I'm just sayin', if you're going to go ahead and credit one dude on your "interlude", why not the guy with, arguably, the bigger profile?

tell me which of these is more likely:

lil wayne & his record label think that andre 3000 is so unimportant that they neglected and/or forgot to credit him on the cd

OR

lil wayne thinks that an andre 3000 verse is so special and cool that he intentionally didn't credit him on the cd or on any advance release of the tracklist so that it was a surprise to the listener when he started rapping

OR

lil wayne was too stoned to remember who was or was not on his record

I guess I wasn't reading into it that much, because it's not like there's been this whole huge deal about "OMG SURPRISE VERSE" on heavily publicized rap albums.

Also, I know you love to be condescending as fuck to people J0rdan, but I was actually thinking the reason was option c) some stupid label politics shit that meant he couldn't be credited for whatever reason.

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbpa558tB71qa8ktio1_500.jpg

lol

Also, I know you love to be condescending as fuck to people J0rdan, but I was actually thinking the reason was option c) some stupid label politics shit that meant he couldn't be credited for whatever reason.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

sorry, yo

i do remember reading someone (i guess on twitter?) being like "wow surprise andre verse!" so whether that was the intention that was the effect to some degree

I was like "wow surprise andre verse!" when i had my one and only listen to this

me too. it actually was kind of exciting in the leaked tracklist era

Well that was what I was getting at, it seems now so much more common now to have these fully leaked tracklists that let you know anyone with even half a bar (slightly exagerrating here) on the track. Its like, look at all these names! You want to buy this!

it would've been funny if 50% of the back cover of the last Kanye album was just listing the "All of the Lights" guests

i really want to make a list of every shitty zen koan on this album

i don't think i'll be able to stomach listening to the whole album so if you want to take my idea and run with it be my guest!

weezykoans.tumblr.com is unclaimed

man i swear i was like "fuck, should i just make a tumblr"

lol

Lol @ "It's Good". Tunechi is all, "oh yeah Kanye? King Crimson? Here's Alan Parsons Project. First album. Who's the prog pro now bitch?"

I mean, even 'Megaman' has the punchlines "Have it your way... BURGER KING"

at long last, Weezy has become Wesley Willis

I must say laughed my ass off at this "How to Love" video last night

don't pay attention to wayne these days but damn he went hard on 6 foot 7 foot

yeah i can't wait for the next single to drop, i think he might actually have a good album left in him

are there any good blends of the vox over another beat? i like the verses but that vocal sample is just mixed so high that the whole thing is kind of irritating imo

i don't even HEAR an obvious next single on C4 aside from the songs that have been already released. maybe that horrible Bruno Mars bonus track.

yeah the mix of 6 foot 7 foot is really terrible, so trebley and no low end

also lol @ the dylanification of his voice from all the weedsmoke

i don't even HEAR an obvious next single on C4 aside from the songs that have been already released. maybe that horrible Bruno Mars bonus track.

― some dude, Monday, September 19, 2011 8:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

(i was kidding...)

"I got through that sentence like a subject and a predicate"

??? snoopshake

ohh shit my shorty made me listen to dis joint last night she love it but daaamn not one hot track on it.

it to me aint even the corny shit he say anymore it that he a cartoon character, mebbe bedrock make sense now

wayne - not trill. wrong on south rap. wrong 4 the nation!

not even luriqua lite

at least get the cadence riht

??? snoopshake

Not sure what this means, but I was wondering where I heard that "subject and predicate" line before.

it means http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll146/dotcomgirlLSA/snoop.gif

but yeah kyle2trill is sad, just stop

one thing I hate about nu-ILX is people trying to replace classic gifs with flavor-of-the-day gifs from senorgif and 4gifs

think carefully about what your nu-gif offers over the classic before you use it, ppl

lol I forgot about that gif

Funny thing is that when we were listening to IV in the car the other day my wife actually cited that "subject and predicate" line as one of the better ones on the album and so much better than the rest of his "lame puns".

idgi though, almost every sentence is going to contain a subject and predicate. where's the pun

well it's a pun because the "sentence" he got through was a prison sentence

possible additional wordplay on the term 'predicate felon' but that's prob giving him too much credit

oh haha. I thought he was still talking about elephants and gelatin

t/f: that line would be improved if he said instead "I got through that sentence... PREDICATE"

f

that and the lasagna line are fine imo, although they're both examples of wayne getting into that nu-jay zone where his good lyrics work better on paper than on record

succ butter from my azz

succ butter from my azz.... COUNTRY CROCK

tsk http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=52980

obviously did not check out this album but "mirror" is pretty dope, kinda had no idea that was bruno mars at first

hang on maybe it's a remix that's being played on the radio now because the youtube i'm listening to now sucks

hm, maybe i'm thinking of a different song, lol

update - talking about the bobby v song

the only good song on this album is the one w t-pain

haha yeah kev i thought it was stupid that wayne was on 2 singles called "mirror" in the past year but it's funny that you actually got them mixed up!

j0rd otm

I semi-like the interlude one with Tech N9ne & Dre Ben. Horrible album though.

for real, not generally a big Tech N9ne fan but his verse on this album is one of the only good things about it. I sorta liked John when it dropped but already can't remember anything about it beyond it being an inferior remake of I'm Not a Star

rip kyle2trill

did you all hear this cover of "how to love"?

http://soundcloud.com/vagrantrecords/sviib-howtolove

against the odds it's really amazing

I liked "Blunt Blowin."

The first several songs on this album are actually pretty good, mixtape-caliber Wayne. But then the curious guests, high concepts and genre experiments come in and it's all over.

Kinda forget how much I liked "John," though. A perfect love letter to the idea of Rick Ross.

haha I completely forgot about "John"

I am still amused by the title

i'm not sure a song's title has so negatively affected my feelings about it

did you all hear this cover of "how to love"?

http://soundcloud.com/vagrantrecords/sviib-howtolove

against the odds it's really amazing

― lex pretend, Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:59 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

definitely not gonna hear this cover of "how to love"

i'm not sure a song's title has so negatively affected my feelings about it

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:56 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the title's the only thing I like about it!

song is dope man -- once i got past that it's not "i'm not a star" i grew to really like it

also had to get past wayne fumbling w/ a guitar while wearing jeggings during that song at the vmas

I never did get past it not being "I'm Not A Star" :/

http://www.manolith.com/files/2012/08/toilet.jpg

nah there's some good stuff here. rebirth is a fucking toilet

nope

This thread = 1,000x more entertaining that the album it's about

nope to which j0rdan?

i think j0rdan was saying carter 4 is a toilet. although rennavate's post seemed to misunderstanding whiney's post re: the song title "john."

as far as unworthy blockbuster rap albums go, you could do a lot worse than carter 4. it's more bland and overly familiar than outright bad.

Yeah. It had some songs but was mostly bland and uninspired. I don't know why everybody hates How To Love though. That's a pretty good song.

The singles are almost all better than I remember them, and there were a fair amount of them, so by that measure the album did what it set out to do

Also forgot about that closing track where Bun B, Busta and Nas all kind of kill it, but Wayne never shows up and it's just as well

i grew to appreciate "How To Love" over time, as much as i wanted to dismiss it outright

CARTER V

i was a pretty big fan of this dude at one point but to me this shit is unlistenable

This is what I needed right now.

what's with the voice, he doesn't sound like himself?

on first listen this is disappointing

That Kendrick verse is possibly the worst thing he's ever done, unless it was tongue-in-cheek, in which case it's only one of the 10'worst things he's ever done

This albums is pretty good, people. What is wrong with you? Lol

this was a good thread title

yeah this is far from unlistenable lol

what's with the voice, he doesn't sound like himself?

I dunno, on the collaboration with Kendrick he sounds like himself, albeit older and more weary than in his prime years back

the flow is super different on mona lisa. but i like it.

sounds kinda like young thug which is weird bc those guys are not friends

He varies the flow on it -- some parts sound newer but other verses seem old-school

This albums is pretty good, people. What is wrong with you? Lol

otm, even on first listen it's so much better than Tha Carter IV, which was such a letdown after III. it's been 7 years (?) since I listened to a new lil Wayne album and this is good

was thinking recently how lucky we are that Wayne is still alive, how lucky he is. so many more rappers OD'ing in their 20s than in decades past

yep, I had that exact same thought. It made me appreciate this even more. If you had asked me couple of years ago I would have said the chances of Wayne actually growing old w a certain sense of dignity were close to zero. But here we are.

he's not old though

*ageing - he was starting to sound old a few years ago. Now it's more like he has matured.

i could live inside the beat for demons

I like 'Mess' a lot. Really the whole last chunk of the record is the best part.

totally agreed. there are 5 or 6 tracks that are completely worthless, and most of them are near the beginning

Don't Cry is really good

xp i'm mostly thinking of dark side of the moon, yeesh

wayne comes off real nice here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_o6BmTb48A

“Mona Lisa” is fucking weird & unpleasant, don’t know why people like it.

Overexcited high-pitched Wayne flow is probably his worst stylistic development in the last 3 or so years.