Radiohead - The King of Limbs

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Download out on the 19th.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

YAY 2011!!!

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i love these dudes

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i love these dudes

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nate woolls, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa rad!

Clay, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link

So the mp3s (320k) are priced at £6 in the UK. I guess they've used their research from the In Rainbows experiment to find the optimum price.

Bob Six, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link

love the blog post announcing this, btw: http://radiohead.com/deadairspace/

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:42 (thirteen years ago) link

PITCHFORK, DON'T DISAPPOINT US NOW -- AWESOME, HYPERBOLIC AMY PHILLIPS NEWS STORY PLZ

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

It's 2011, why don't you people listen to something a little less boring?

Keepin' it Rael with Peter Gabriel (King Boy Pato), Monday, 14 February 2011 09:46 (thirteen years ago) link

KBP, EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *claps claps claps, claps claps snaps*

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:46 (thirteen years ago) link

more like "The King of Limp (Cocks)" btw

Keepin' it Rael with Peter Gabriel (King Boy Pato), Monday, 14 February 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago) link

clever

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

clever dick, even

Keepin' it Rael with Peter Gabriel (King Boy Pato), Monday, 14 February 2011 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link

can't tell if markers is being ironic or

The image post from the hilarious "markers" internet persona (history mayne), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Faust Arp

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Excited! But "newspaper album" sounds so so lame...

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Thought it was going to come free with the Daily Mail when I read that.

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 February 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Lol at p4k not mentioning this yet. Someone's gonna get fired for that

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

weren't they only going to put out EPs and individual tracks for a while instead of albums? still, psyched either way. if it's half as good as In Rainbows i'll be impressed. artwork looks dreadful but i'm used to that with Radiohaed by now.

piscesx, Monday, 14 February 2011 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Radiohead really aren't very good at artwork.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

oxo-degradeable plastic to hold it all together

Yes, that should do the job

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't put Oxo on your records in you wanna keep them guys

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Radiohead really aren't very good at artwork.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TVkLDgmbhKI/AAAAAAAAAc4/3Icm8nzLAHI/s640/radioheads.jpg

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link

weren't they only going to put out EPs and individual tracks for a while instead of albums? still, psyched either way. if it's half as good as In Rainbows i'll be impressed. artwork looks dreadful but i'm used to that with Radiohaed by now.

― piscesx, Monday, February 14, 2011 10:41 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think they've been saying this since 1997

The image post from the hilarious "markers" internet persona (history mayne), Monday, 14 February 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link

totally stealing this one

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the artwork's better than usual, actually!

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Mmmm I don't really like the cover, if it weren't Radiohead behind this I'd completely ignore the album but maybe it will make more sense when paired with the rest of the artwork (Execution of Kid A and Hail to the Thief's artwork was really well done imho) but as ever I'm genuinely excited about this.
Any word on tracklist?

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Just been searching for one, nothing turned up.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5225/backgroundef.jpg

Like this a lot more than the actual cover. And there's no word on the tracklisting yet.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

how can people not like that awesome cover with the ghost dudes on it, what is wrong with you

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the other one looks like the default Indie Band With Money template in Aldus Pagemaker

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

cool

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I like everything about the actual cover except for the orange and green and the dated grungy font. The coloring just makes it look like Aquaman made it or something.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Radiohead really aren't very good at artwork.

I like the covers to this, Amnesiac and Hail to the Thief. Everything else is kind of nondescript.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I tried to order this and the last step ended up in SQL hell and I have a short attention span so now I will probably never hear it. good luck king of limbs

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

radiohead's announcement cynically timed to steal the arcade fire's thunder.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I had to do it twice. It worked the second time. x-post

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

They suck for not releasing the CD on the same date. I will never pay for downloads when I intend to buy the CD anyway. Physical CDs >>>>>>>>>>>>> downloads.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Uh, if you buy the cd, you get the download on Saturday and the cd when it's ready.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

or wait, can you get the cd w/o buying the extravagant vinyl package? maybe not.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

That's more offensive to me than buying mp3s.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Preorder? May go for it then. Or just enjoy the album on Spotify until the CD is ready.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I still don't understand why killing the CD seems so important for some people while currently there is no format that can realistically compete with CDs in terms of sound quality. Yes, lossless exists, but nobody buys lossless.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, looks like there's no separate cd option yet, but there's one included with the vinyl sale. They do sell it in .wav format, though, so you can burn your own cd.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I doubt if this'll ever be on Spotify, In Rainbows isn't.

nate woolls, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Yes they do

philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I had to do it twice. It worked the second time. x-post

yeah I have a rule with shit like this, if your frontend is too clunky to let my order go through the first time then I just buy an old Bathory album from Hells Headbangers instead

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link

in some ways, this is an even more interesting experiment with digital-sales than in rainbows, since now -- with the data the band gathered the last time -- they can see if the model for hitting an optimal price-point works.

i guess the response is that radiohead, unlike a lot of other bands, has a built-in, passionate fanbase that will go out of their way to buy the product.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

coincidentally enough, this album is completely comprised of bathory covers!

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha how weird. Yesterday right before I went to sleep I was listening to a couple of tracks from In Rainbows and wondering when something new would be released.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

wow. no tracklisting. clear vinyl. i'm psyched!

i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post But two years later, I bet the data has shifted, no? What someone may have been willing to pay for an album with a novel release scheme a couple of years ago may (and probably is) different from what they're willing to pay today, esp. with so many Amazon MP3 fire sales and whatnot. I mean, the Grammy-winning "Suburbs" is $5 on Amazon.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

In other words, curious how this works out.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha how weird. Yesterday right before I went to sleep I was listening to a couple of tracks from In Rainbows and wondering when something new would be released.

I wasn't wondering when something new would be released, but I listened to The Bends for the first time in ages last night when going to sleep. Woke up to find out there's a new album imminent.

Ned and I can make things happen, people!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man you guys were listening to the wrong albums, now this is gonna suck

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Will Ned and Johnny Fever please listen to the Avalanches tonight before going to sleep.

I'm really excited for this album I still listen to In Rainbows a lot.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I am not nearly as excited for this as I would have been before In Rainbows came out.

CAN YOU GULP ANY LOUDER PISS WOMAN (DJP), Monday, 14 February 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

And so the laughable bullshit begins...

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Monday, 14 February 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

coincidentally enough, this album is completely comprised of bathory covers!

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 13:39 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark

Under the Sign of the Thom Yorke

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm excited it's a return to form after the disappointing In Rainbows!

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

:P

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Exciting news for an otherwise blah Monday, but I'm wishing there was some sort of in-between option that is more than just the downloads and less than super-duper deluxe expensive boxset.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 February 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, if they are going to do it this way, I miss an option a la "In Rainbows" to pay zilch for the downloads and then full prize for the CD when it appears. I did it then, and I also know many others did.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 14 February 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i suspect you'll be able to buy a normal CD of it in the store eventually

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't say that I'm all that excited about this. $48 seems too steep for me. I'll wait for the 12" when it's only $15.

van smack, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

The regular CD will be in stores on March 28th.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i suspect you'll be able to buy a normal CD of it in the store eventually

Yeah, but that also means that I'd have to wait until the end of March to hear it when the album has already been discussed to death and no one cares anymore. Good job Radiohead on forcing the illegal downloads!

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 February 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

£6 is not exactly an enormous amount to pay if you want to hear in that much!

Psyched for this, although I'm not sure I'm actually going to be able to listen to this on the 19th. Feels weird for an album to have a RELEASE DATE that means something in 2011 - I miss release date excitement far more than the physical CD in this day and age.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

See, I would totally be jumping on a, like, $15 for digital download now and get the physical CD when its rleased. I just happen to fall into that gap where I want a physical product, but I don't want to shell out $48 for it.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 February 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Agree there should be a middle option, with just a compact disc preorder. I don't even have a turntable anymore, and if I did, that still seems a pretty steep price to pay for some fancy packaging and an album I'm not even sure yet whether or not I'll like.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

In Rainbows = Pay what you want
King of Limbs = sorry, we gotta get paid

van smack, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd imagine if they could have manufactured the CD/LP themselves and sold it and avoided labels completely, they would have. to think they hadnt thought it through and done the sums is probably naive - i would imagine the amounts they lose in illegal downloads in the month before its in the shops is not comparable to taking on the distro themselves.

matt h, Monday, 14 February 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

My barrier isn't the price, it's the extra crap I have no space for in my house.

CAN YOU GULP ANY LOUDER PISS WOMAN (DJP), Monday, 14 February 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

can't believe you're unwilling to make room for 625 tiny pieces of artwork

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

In Rainbows = Pay what you want
King of Limbs = sorry, we gotta get paid

― van smack, Monday, February 14, 2011

eh, this is more than a little unfair as a criticism, unless you subscribe to the "music years to be free (of charge)" school of thought.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

radiohead have families to feed, you know.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

can't believe you're unwilling to make room for 625 tiny pieces of artwork

That has about the same level of appeal as "also included: a really old slice of ham" for me

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

^ yes, this

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i always thought the brilliant bit of the In Rainbows release was not the pay what you want model but the fact that they had complete control of its dissemination, i.e. no leaks, no promos, no record stores opening it early, etc. it's much easier to sell people a record they don't have yet.

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

The regular CD will be in stores on March 28th.

source?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I admit I am looking forward to the anguished "WHERE ARE THOSE LAST TWO PIECES OF TINY ARTWORK" blog posts/tweets

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i agree w/ lj and johnny that there should be a "middle option" between the download and deluxe "newspaper album" (lol) box set. but i get why they would delay the standard cd edition. big radiohead fans who want a physical product asap will be more likely to order the box without a lower-priced physical option to trade down to. smart business move imo

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

also, this drawing from the radiohead blog should be the album cover imo

http://cdn.sandbag.uk.com/RH/thankyou2.jpg

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

They'll make enough money off selling t-shirts with that album cover on them. It seems designed to have the maximum possible appeal to teenage goths.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

And so the laughable bullshit begins...

― Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Monday, February 14, 2011 9:21 AM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"What's not yet clear is why it's called a "Newspaper Album". But newspapers – it's no secret – are suffering the same sort of woes as the music industry. Is there some hidden clue here for how the print business will find salvation, too?"

Evan, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i have nothing to say about this except to register my respect to Melissa W for starting this thread after already starting the 'in rainbows' thread

J0rdan S., Monday, 14 February 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

That has about the same level of appeal as "also included: a really old slice of ham" for me

was so excited for you to get the pic they commissioned from me :(

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1zGLaFOzr-E/TQp1U7atOjI/AAAAAAAAESU/FQsl8F_-TJQ/s1600/DSCN9152.JPG

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost -- Hahah I was thinking that too. A sign of true reliability!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, yes, former Midwesterners, that's ham with cream cheese on it. I'm going to boil it in 2 gallons of cream of mushroom soup and then serve it on a bed of saltines.

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Those scallions look good.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

[q] The regular CD will be in stores on March 28th.

source?[/q]

The guy who runs the atease news site. Always reliable when it comes to this sort of thing.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Ugh, ignore code fuck-up.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Can we conclude now that ultimately Radiohead's "groundbreaking" In Rainbows sale approach, ie. let the customer decide, was just a one off and has failed? It was hailed as The Future of Music Buying when IR came out, but already they are going back to a more traditional way of selling their music. I don't know any figures on how IR did, what the average was that a buyer paid for it etc. But surely the band themselves must be disappointed. If not them, then at least the ever horny and looking for saviours mainstream music press will be. But then they are, again, hailed as the saviours of the music biz now, judging by that Grauniad article linked up here.

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

iirc In Rainbows 'sold' pretty well but everyone agreed that was only possible due to the high profile/large fanbase of the band

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i have nothing to say about this except to register my respect to Melissa W for starting this thread after already starting the 'in rainbows' thread

― J0rdan S., Monday, February 14, 2011 9:10 AM

Not sure if this is respect or "respect"?

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

That doesn't even work as sarcasm Jordan.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

J0rdan has been trying to make up for Whiney being gone.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that the In Rainbows thing did quite well for the band, but that they considered it a card that could only be played once.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it all depends on how much they did take in.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

guys i wasn't being sarcastic

J0rdan S., Monday, 14 February 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I doubt they're that arsed how much money they make from this.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i think the idea is, radiohead "discovered" with In Rainbows how much ppl are willing to pay for a Radiohead digital download. so now they are most likely charging prices along the lines of what ppl were willing to pay for the last one... right?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

to be far to radiohead, they were very keen to emphasise that pay-as-you-want was not "the future of music buying" as the press labelled it, but rather a reaction to the situation they found themselves in - i.e. unable to decide on a pricing model. looks like thats not the case this time.

matt h, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's a fake cover for you, ilxor. You can tag your mp3s with this:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TVlI_0noOlI/AAAAAAAAAdM/dRJ0d8It_3U/s800/radioheadfaux.jpg

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahaha <3

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

radiohead have families to feed, you know.

Sure, I paid them last time (for a physical CD) and I'll gladly pay them this time around too. But it pisses me off that once more it'll take months for the physical CD to eventually appear in the shops.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i think the fact that they're totally in control of the distribution (at least to start out with) is a lot more important to them than the price point

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess the leaky nature of standard label/distro channels precludes a simultaneous release with the mailorder stuff.

matt h, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Well it's not actually the ghosts and trees which I dislike on the album cover... it's more the choice of colors they picked. Some sort of neon winter reggae... which probably means all songs will sound like variations on 'house of cards'.

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

But it pisses me off that once more it'll take months for the physical CD to eventually appear in the shops.

i hear you but, absent the early digital-release, they could have just released the physical product in late march.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 14 February 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

wonder if Pitchfork is seriously having an office party right now

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

What looks reggae about the cover?

I think the worst part is the type on top of the cover. It does look very AP magazine emo/screamo/hardcore/postgoth

Evan, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

It's apparently a font that was made from handcut blocks of wood that were then scanned. And yet it still doesn't look like anything other than some shitty grungy font from the year 2000.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, it's a basic non-grungy font. It's just that it's kind of translucent and you can see the design beneath it.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Right. Its paired with such a gothy t-shirt ready image as Matt said.

Evan, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Although I'm not as hardline about it as Geir, I'm one of those people stuck on the physical format and I'm having a really hard time letting go of that. I know there are so many reasons to get over myself - a) I don't have unlimited physical space for my ever growing collection, b) from an environmental standpoint, its kind of wasteful and indulgent, and c) the "cloud" is obviously the way of the future; but I'm finding myself frustrated when I get "punished" for waiting months and months for a physical item.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

what typeface are we talking about here?

xpost

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

jon and Geir are experiencing what may be the platonic ideal of First World Problems

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess I'm just a big old douchey dinosaur for feeling like I do.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Just about the download, it looks like you need to be able to unzip the files once you get them. Cos I don't generally download stuff (other than from iTunes, Amazon and eMusic), I never got round to buying an application to extract files. The King of Limbs site links the user to Winzip, so if I were to follow their advice, then this whole thing is going to cost me £32. Thanks guys!

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

what typeface are we talking about here?

http://cdn.sandbag.uk.com/RV/c/TKOLPackshot.jpg

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

oh!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

winzip is free to all intents and purposes. 7zip is really and totally free: http://www.7-zip.org/

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

if you preorder the 'newspaper' edition you'd have to wait a month longer than the people picking up the regular CD/LP. the leak is on saturday, the physical release a month later, the deluxe release a month later than that.

matt h, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, I want a physical CD without 625 choking hazards as well, which is why I am either going to wait for the physical release or buy the mp3s and pick up the album later if I like it enough

(which reminds me, I still need to pick up physical copies of Heligoland and Heartland)

xp: most modern operating systems open .zip files natively now; they are treated just like regular folders

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks ledge. Why aren't the Radiohead sending people there instead? xxp

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxp: what OS are you on? windows has native support for unzipping zip files, at least since XP if not older versions

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

and winzip is 'shareware' or whatever, it asks you to buy it but it never actually disables any features after the 30 days are up iirc

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I got xp, so it may or may not work I guess. Hasn't worked in the past, but I'll figure it out somehow...

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

well 7-zip should work regardless, so you're all set

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

and winzip is 'shareware' or whatever, it asks you to buy it but it never actually disables any features after the 30 days are up iirc

FYI as of version 10 they changed this so that after 30 days you had to buy it; I don't know if they changed it back with subsequent versions

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

does the program actually have features that are worth $ in any sense?

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

or are they just relying on people who get confused w/ zip files

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

winRAR is free and can open .rar and .zip iirc

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

No, not in a world where 7zip exists (xp)

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

not really, it was the first decent zip/unzip program for windows and has been around for ages and ages, so it's used purely on name recognition now that there are good free alternatives

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, winRAR is the champ for all time.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

btw can I just say lol @ all of us for the turn this conversation has taken

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

This is the stuff that Thom Yorke doesn't want you to know.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a good time to ask the question "what is the difference between zip files and rar files?"

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, winRAR is the champ for all time.

QFT; it really doesn't get better than WinRAR.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a good time to ask the question "what is the difference between zip files and rar files?"

it's a different encoding algorithm; IIRC RAR files are supposed to be smaller on average

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure rar compression creates smaller archive files?

xp

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

so why would anyone ever use a zip file?

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a good time to ask the question "what is the difference between zip files and rar files?"

Rar compresses more than zip, I think the compression algorithm is just more complex or something

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey guys, I wonder what this album will SOUND like?!

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I think zip files are still used because WinZip doesn't do rars or something, I guess it's kind of the same reason why mp3 is still used even if other formats are technically 'better'

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

because rar sometimes confuses people and zip is better known/maybe more universal?

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

so why would anyone ever use a zip file?

― iatee, Monday, February 14, 2011 11:22 AM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


zip compresses faster for big files, rar has more licensing issues

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

zip is open format, rar is proprietory.

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Thought that 'waiting' artwork is more Meat Puppets circa 1985

philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I have learned so much this morning, thank you

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

man i wonder how many mbs the compressed archive of this album is going to be!

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

c'mon we can get five days more compression software discussion out of this before the album arrives.

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

radiohead's decision to make this a zip file now infuriates me btw

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Well it's also easier to figure out what to do with a file ending in ".zip" ("hmm, maybe I need to... unzip it?") than what to do with a file ending in ".rar" ("I spent 10 minutes roaring into the microphone and I still can't get to my mp3s ;_;")

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Please note that compression software data for the entire discography is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify hearing results, individual album compression data will need to be obtained from the band.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't even think Factory released a file compression program under a cat number.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Jordan - I would guess about 82 mbs compressed. I would guess they would use 320 kbps MP3s after the shitstorm that occured after In Rainbows was released as a 160 kbps MP3 (really a dumb decision, but whatever), I still think they probably have no idea what VBR is so I doubt they'd use it. I think 320 is like 2 mb = 1 minute, and my guess is this album will be 52 minutes long, so 104 mb compressed which should be like 82, but my math might be totally off.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

104 mb compressed which should be like 82

That would be SERIOUSLY compressed. I'd guess that 104mb worth of data compressed by standard rar settings would result in something around 96-98mb.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

compression of an already compressed mp3 will be more like 1%.

ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I guess you're probably right...so my guess would be 98 then. I don't really pay attention to compressed file sizes anymore since we live in a world of terabyte hard drives but it doesn't surprise me that I got it totally wrong.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i like to sidechain compress my files to the kick drum

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

zip feels like a nut, rar doesn't

aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I'm always hoping that they won't sound grim
But it's my destiny to buy The King of Limbs

buzza, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

So, about the music...

I'm excited to see a tracklist. There have been a couple of new songs that Thom played over the last year (titles escape me right now) that didn't impress me at the time, but then again, I wasn't that impressed by "house of cards" when it was first played, and that ended up being one of my favorite songs on In Rainbows.

fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

There were a few songs on Jonny's Norweigian Wood soundtrack that I thought could have been transformed into really cool rh songs.

fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of the tracks off that are basically the soundcheck arrangement of The Present Tense.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

So... right now there's not really much material for us to get excited about right? Just a release date and some artwork. Hope to see at least some tracklist before the record comes out... more fun to speculate on actual songs... guessing which song got resurrected from the vault this time... (lift, big boots, true love waits...)... is 'these are my twisted words' included somewhere in there and is it a clue on the sort of sound we should expect?

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder will 'Twisted Words' be on it? Or hey maybe 'Lift' at last lol. this site seems to think it might know what's going on. dunno mind:
http://www.citizeninsane.eu/tkol.html

piscesx, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

say this every time: hope they've got some 10-minute songs on that thing

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked the concise but still unusual song structures of In Rainbows myself.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

In Rainbows doesn't feel very memorable, surprising or important for me - if I only heard 15 Step, Reckoner and Jigsaw Falling Into Place again from it I'd be happy

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Hail To The Thief otoh is immense and everything I ask of Radiohead and more - propah fucken widescreen that record

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah well, you and me differ then. To some extent I actually like it so much because it doesn't sound like it's trying so hard to be 'important' as previous releases. Every song feels organic and unaffected.

xpost

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I love about half the tracks on HTTT, could definitely loose a couple though.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I disliked In Rainbows because I didn't think the songs worked well together. I enjoy those songs much more when I encounter them in isolation on Genius playlists than I do when I try to listen to the album; as a group, they don't really support or flow into each other very well, pretty much unlike every other Radiohed album aside from Pablo Honey.

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

can't tell if markers is being ironic or

― The image post from the hilarious "markers" internet persona (history mayne)

with the being excited for the record? not at all. i genuinely like radiohead

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Again, I disagree. Works very well as piece IMO

xpost

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder will 'Twisted Words' be on it? Or hey maybe 'Lift' at last lol. this site seems to think it might know what's going on. dunno mind:
http://www.citizeninsane.eu/tkol.html

― piscesx

It's a pretty good documentation of unreleased songs that they've been playing around recently. Unless 'burn the witch' ended up being renamed for something on In Rainbows it will most definitely appear this time around... remember I've seen that one mentioned frequently. Only song in there I recognize is 'follow me around' which I don't think has any chance of being released at this point but anything could happen.

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Thing is, Radiohead are a band who don't do 'organic and unaffected' so well - they're at their best when there's a sense of engaged and intelligent contrivance - they never 'jam', they control every detail masterfully and present every narrative as a hotwired, energy-packed and pristine mechanism whose internal logic has been endlessly considered and whose consequent Importance is implicit in its twists and turns. Other bands do 'organic and instinctive' really well, but Radiohead trying to do that left me cold - it felt like a compromise, with them watering down their surprising and arch narratives but not really coming up with a compelling method in its stead.

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

And yeah, In Rainbows as an album loses that sense of control and logic which all of Radiohead's other albums are bursting to display. 'Look at me, I'm fucken SEQUENCED'

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep, they work better in a calculated, controlled environment, I reckon they wouldn't make a decent jam band.

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

in rainbows is their best album btw

iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I also liked In Rainbows more when I play it in random order; it made me briefly think my first impression of the album was wrong. (I had a similar thing happen with Pulp's This Is Hardcore which I loathed until I shuffled it; hearing it that way broke my preconceived notions and let me enjoy it in its original sequence. With In Rainbows, trying to play it in retail order reinforced how annoying I found the album as released.)

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

in rainbows is their best album btw
co-sign

tylerw, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I think this record will sound like dubstep.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

haha I would be 100% behind that

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd agree with Rainbows being their best too if you hadn't gathered already. It's miles off from being jammy, thank god, and still very highly controlled. But toning down the overwroughtness a few notches really suits the band, for me. There aren't so many instantly show-stopping moments as previously, but there's still masses of drama on the album, it's just subtler, less immediate and ultimately more satisfying.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

well, a dubbier sound MIGHT work tbh - they'd have to do something interesting with it but it could be OK. my #1 album of last year was a 90's dude kinda getting his dubstep on so...

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Hail To The Thief otoh is immense and everything I ask of Radiohead and more - propah fucken widescreen that record

lj knows where it's at

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

My main problem with In Rainbows is that it lacks unarguable tunes tbh. Understated and subtle Radiohead resulted in A Punchup At A Wedding which is one of my favourite Radiohead songs, but that one's taut and nervous and unearthly and dramatic in a way that only a few of In Rainbows' tracks approach

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel very strange going into this album, because I used to love Radiohead's music, and now I don't get much pleasure out of it.

I will never forget finding out about In Rainbows...anticipating it like hell, and there on that Wednesday morning, seeing the update on the school internet. Limbs I'm just going to look forward to hearing this weekend, and try to reconnect and cast my mind back to my fandom of this band.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess if they're going to go "subtle"* I'd rather they do so like "Go To Sleep" or "I Will" rather than... um I can't even match In Rainbows song titles to the songs, which one is the one in 6/8?

* this seems like a very odd word to use in conjunction with Radiohead

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah A Punchup isn't really *subtle* as such, more 'incremental', brooding, and eventually spectacular

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I listened to In Rainbows in the downstairs part of the library for the first time, bunking off a morning lesson as I was so excited. The chills lasted the entire day.

I would've ranked it as no2 behind Kid A across their discography.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Punchup is the worst song on any Radiohead album, it's just plodding.

I predict this record will sound nothing like dubstep, either dubstep proper or some kind of James Blake indiestep. It would feel like too obvious a move.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

hmmm...i...agree with lj!

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate Punchup too actually. My jam on HTTT was always Where I End And You Begin..

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

What? No! "Punchup" is fucking great!

At any rate nothing is worse than everything on Pablo Honey that isn't "Creep"

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

or "Blow Out" or "Stop Whispering"

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

(There are too many songs on HTTT that compete for favorite song from that album for me, which is another reason why it's my favorite Radiohead album.)

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I don't know about proper predictions, but it just seems likely to me that they'll respond in their own way to 00s dubstep the way they did to 90s IDM.

Either way, I like how we've had barely any pointers or hints about its direction. Such a surprise when we hit play I guess..

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

god yeah, where to start? 2+2=5 is one of the best opening tracks qua opening tracks of the 00's and it keeps on being amazing from there onwards

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

xp: last time we got this level of surprise, I hated the album

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm hoping for a heavily electronic album that's influenced by all the recent shit they've been listening to, but i really doubt that's what we're getting.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I dunno, I was geeking out on live tracks they played on the 2006 tour, so actually the only proper surprise for me with IR was hearing how they'd sound all recorded, mixed and sequenced.

The Citizen Insane thing upthread could give us some hints, if we're inclined that way..

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

this album will be funky house

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Chillstep

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

omg

Radiohead doing a witch house album would be so my type of shit

DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

this album is going to be snorecore

blond BBQ teen chipotle while angus bacon movies (crüt), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i was just thinking the other day that a lot of the james blake album just sounds like a thinner 'everything in its right place'

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

It's going to sound like Asian Dub Foundation.

MarkoP, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

God, that is a terrifying thought.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The cover looks kind of Black Metal, maybe that's where they're going.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

It's gonna sound like latterday Anathema, don't kid yrselves

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

there is no format that can realistically compete with CDs in terms of sound quality

Any MP3 over 192kbps is fine with me.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Named after this?

OMG it's going to be their Joshua Tree.

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

That is one evil looking tree.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

loooool Moka

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Named after this?

OMG it's going to be their Joshua Tree.

― James Mitchell

From wikipedia

The name of the new album relates to an oak tree in Wiltshire’s Savernake Forest, thought to be around 1,000 years old.[4] The forest lies around three miles away from Tottenham House, a listed country house where Radiohead recorded part of In Rainbows. The tree is a pollarded oak, referring to an ancient technique for harvesting timber for fencing and firewood. The phrase also appears in the 23rd chapter of the Qur'an.[2]

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

$15 for .wav files is such bs.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't find any reference to the 'King of Limbs' in the Qur'an because there isn't one. Whoever wrote that got confused. After searching for 'King of Limbs' via google, they probably arrived at a [1] wikipedia page about the Qur'an which mentions a commentator 'Ibn Kathir' who used the term to expand on a verse. He described the heart as being 'the king of limbs' while explaining his understanding of the Qur'anic term 'Al-Khushoo'.

The site of al-Khushoo is in the heart and heart is the king of the limbs, so if one intends to pray wholeheartedly the limbs will follow the heart.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mu%E2%80%99minoon#Qualities_of_the_believers

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

So it's going to be their pastoral hauntological album then..

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

That or they're going back to their roots.

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Album cover features surprise cameo by Slimer.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

They may be branching out.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

They should charge $30 for a DVD w the Protools session files.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

$15 for .wav files is such bs.

Yeah that seems pretty expensive considering the mp3s are only $9; does it really cost $6 more in bandwidth to transfer? Come on man

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

uncompressed wavs are admittedly pretty giant

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Wikipedia says the average price paid for In Rainbows was £4 (based on a survey of 3,000), and I was sure I saw somewhere else that the average was $5... Regardless, it seems inaccurate to assume they came up with those prices from In Rainbows data

Fellini.Kuti, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

just looking at the files for one song on my record here - the 320kpbs mp3 version is 10.8 mb, and the wav version is 47.9 mb

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

First band to release a tracklisting via Youtube?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYslBdou_zM

James Mitchell, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

oh lol @ track 3

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

it's on

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

They're finally releasing "Follow Me Around" in some form? Interesting...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

This site says the avg. for those who paid was $6, but only 38% of people paid anything.

Fellini.Kuti, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a song about twitter. the chorus contains the line "please rt, please rt"

markers, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

That youtube account is not real.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

aw

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

The Daily Mail is a real song though.

Melissa W, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yay

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Whether or not this is any good at all, or overpriced or not, the one definitely fantastic thing about it is that it's released on a Saturday.

Although UK music releases are now all on a Monday and have been for ages - SOME OF US CAN REMEMBER when new records were released on a Friday.

If I recall correctly (although I do so increasingly infrequently).

But there was, then, the added excitement of getting a new record just in time for the weekend.

And Monday is far too far from the weekend, and from the first opportunity for many people to get a decent chance to listen to new stuff.

There are 6 other days of the week - at least - that would be better than Monday for music being released.

Saturday is, undoubtedly, one of these other days that is not a Monday.

Neil Willett, Monday, 14 February 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

http://thekingoflimbs.jp/sites/en/

Supposedly it's 8 tracks long.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

that increases the chances of EPICNESS :D

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Be nice to hear Follow Me Around after years of crappy live versions and a cobbled together version from Meeting People is Easy.

philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Monday, 14 February 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

a radiohead album full of 8-minute songs runs a very high risk of being my album of the year, and I'm not ashamed to say that

acoleuthic, Monday, 14 February 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I was about to say...there could a few 5-minute plus-ers

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Longer Radiohead songs could potentially fall into two categories: an extension of the song suite multi-part epic ala Paranoid Android, or a more Krautrock derived gradual build or trance.

Gah I'm fumbling around in the dark here..

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

man they are really fucking those of us that want the vinyl :/

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 February 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

http://thekingoflimbs.jp/sites/en/

Supposedly it's 8 tracks long.

― Davek (davek_00), Monday, February 14, 2011 3:22 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this only further increases my suspiscion that it is a song-by-song reinterpretation of Rush's Grace Under Pressure

ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

dude grace is an underrated rush jawn, i'm thinking about this

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 February 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

8 tracks? Now I'm getting really amped up.

Moka, Monday, 14 February 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Looking forward to "Paranoid Android Part 2"

billstevejim, Monday, 14 February 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Omg "Follow Me Around" really?!?

billstevejim, Monday, 14 February 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know where you guys are hearing about Follow Me Around..

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 14 February 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Well it's more than likely going to be the same song right?

philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Monday, 14 February 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

haha i luv radiohehead Wild Speculation & Rumor Day

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 14 February 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

the way it says 8 tracks FROM makes it sound like its a sampler. pretty sure they wouldnt do that though.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 14 February 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

this only further increases my suspiscion that it is a song-by-song reinterpretation of Rush's Grace Under Pressure

I'm getting the mp3 version, but if this were true, I'd definitely shell out the $50 for the vinyl version. Hopefully Radiohead is at least reading this thread and getting some awesome ideas for their next LP.

Moodles, Monday, 14 February 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

FWIW, here's the digital fulfillment company Radiohead is working with: http://sandbag.uk.com/

Placed my order for the 320 version. I'm through with physical objects.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 14 February 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i froze up is a lovely song, i doubt it will be on it though. its pretty old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AngJQVIefjA

i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Monday, 14 February 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I want all the songs to sound like a cross between "In Limbo" & "I Might Be Wrong"

kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 14 February 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

(with maybe some "National Anthem" & "Uptight" thrown in for good measure)

kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 14 February 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

This "Uptight"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDbyOLzEyfk

Cause yeah, more Radiohead songs need to sound like that.

MarkoP, Monday, 14 February 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Pre-ordered. And I have to say, 36 euros including p&p seems like a really good deal. Esp. considering p&p would come to what, 10 euros at least for what seams a heavy box.

A 4 tracks/sides album would be sublime, but I'll sign for a mere 8!

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 14 February 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man I cannot wait for this

beau jest faux-verdrive (San Te), Monday, 14 February 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Ditto

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link

went to the record store recently and the guy was selling a seven inch with die cut boloney in a zip lock bag packaged with it. They hadn't sold in his online store fast enough so when I asked about what was in the bag he threw them all out.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, it was several copies of the seven inch all with aging boloney.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Kinda surprised it's only eight tracks, as their records are generally quite uniform as being 10-12 3 to 5 min. tracks (with the exceptions of "Paranoid Android" and Hail to the Thief being 14 tracks). Makes m wonder if they've got more material on the way, esp. since they've been working on this stuff for ages. Pretty stoked that we have no idea whatsoever what to expect.

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe it'll be a Kid A/Amnesiac kind of deal.

Melissa W, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Or a bonus disc as with In Rainbows. Anyway, we'll all find out soon enough.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Think they would have mentioned a bonus disc? I think they mentioned the In Rainbows one.

Melissa W, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

In Rainbows is still sitting in a pile downstairs. I bought it, but haven't yet taken off the shrinkwrap.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Just bought the jumbo newspaper edition, am annoyed that it doesn't come out until..

Due Ship Date for the Newspaper Album: 9th May 2011

I mean, I know I'll get the download this weekend, but 3 more fucking months???

the most cuddlesome bug that ever was borned (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link

No offense, but it pretty clearly stated that in the information before you had to click anything.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I might actually cave and buy the deluxe thingamabob.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry, I meant that I knew it came out then, it just seems weird to have it so far ahead

the most cuddlesome bug that ever was borned (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

They should charge $30 for a DVD w the Protools session files.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau)

Dang, I'd buy that and I don't even like Radiohead.

clamwich (staggerlee), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll be surprised if it doesn't look like the broadsheet edition of McSweeny's. They're obviously the kind of guys who fuck w. Dave Eggers and read that publication.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

really I just want to know if it is going to look like an actual newspaper so I know if I can go around saying they ripped off the Dead Kennedys on that one album

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know what you guys are on about, the cover art is fantastic and hopefully indicates what the album is like. Also hello even my mother has heard of zip files. Can't wait to hear this.

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Whether or not this is any good at all, or overpriced or not, the one definitely fantastic thing about it is that it's released on a Saturday.

Although UK music releases are now all on a Monday and have been for ages - SOME OF US CAN REMEMBER when new records were released on a Friday.

If I recall correctly (although I do so increasingly infrequently).

But there was, then, the added excitement of getting a new record just in time for the weekend.

And Monday is far too far from the weekend, and from the first opportunity for many people to get a decent chance to listen to new stuff.

There are 6 other days of the week - at least - that would be better than Monday for music being released.

Saturday is, undoubtedly, one of these other days that is not a Monday.

― Neil Willett, Monday, February 14, 2011 8:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

awwwwww yeah, it's the weekend, time to throw on the new radiohead jam

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Look Enrique, the Big Society means some of us have a tough old week of putting out each other's bins and having to buy up forests and stuff. Come Saturday we have no energy to be riding around in open-top cars drinking Moet. All we want to do is sit in our hospital beds and cry and cry and cry. So enough sarkiness from you.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link

a radiohead album full of 8-minute songs runs a very high risk of being my album of the year, and I'm not ashamed to say that

You do realise that "really long songs" isn't actually any kind of guarantee that they'll be good?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

This newspaper edition is basically going to be Radiohead's Thick As A Brick right?

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

The design of all three of those is so well suited to the respective bands. Will frankly be disappointed if Radiohead don't recreate the whole of the Observer, complete with all the supplements.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I for one am looking forward to Colin Greenwood's cookery column. Maybe the drummer could write an inane opinion piece about the diplomatic minefield of only sending out wedding invites through Facebook.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/jobhosle/IMG_0073_edited-3.jpg

zappi, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Tom Waits' Heart Attack & Vine is another obvious one of these. No matter how much extra stuff they add, it's kind of a played out idea already.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.torkhum.com/topten/rap_juicyjthumb.jpg

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img.noiset.com/images/album/lady-sovereign-random-disc-51613.jpeg

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

One of the few things we know about this album is that the artwork won't actually be a newspaper, dudes.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah it that would be a daft assumption to make about something called a newspaper album that is made of many large sheets of paper and comes in a plastic bag.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

http://illustrationfriday.com/blog/wp-content/mcsweeneyspanorama.jpg

I'm convinced it'll be like McSweeny's... seriously, how many pieces of art? Held together with what?

http://www.printeresting.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/IMG_9594.jpg

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's highly unlikely to be a traditional newspaper in the form of most of those album covers though, especially given what we already know about the cover. It might refer to lyrical content as well.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

http://wklondon.typepad.com/welcome_to_optimism/images/2008/03/25/cover.jpg

^ wouldn't be that surprised if it turned out to be a bit like this with records in it

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

McSweeney's looks beautiful. What is it precisely? Want to subscribe to it.

Moka, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know what you guys are on about, the cover art is fantastic and hopefully indicates what the album is like.

― Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 09:45 (2 hours ago)

It looks Animal Collective to me. Sort of an In Rainbows version of MPP with Thom Yorke on vocals?

Umm, I think that's my glass. (laser precise purpose maker era), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

It's Dave Eggers' quarterly literary magazine based in San Francisco. It has the pretty cool idea of changing format with each issue. I love the newspaper one, you can still track it down on line.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

It looks Animal Collective to me. Sort of an In Rainbows version of MPP with Thom Yorke on vocals?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XoS1XkWNUVE/SZBdeXv24GI/AAAAAAAABIk/2kjn81l5_Gg/s320/Spirit+They%27re+Gone,+Spirit+They%27ve+Vanished.jpg

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice! I was aware it was some sort of magazine but was impressed at seeing the newspaper format. A shame it's not a real, monthly or quarterly newspaper thing.

Moka, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's highly unlikely to be a traditional newspaper in the form of most of those album covers though, especially given what we already know about the cover. It might refer to lyrical content as well.

i think it might just mean "suitable for lining the cat's litterbox with"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmmm... looks like it's time to go hatebomb a Ciara thread...

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, CDs are generally not very absorbent.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.redtelephone66.com/albumart/imligaz.jpg

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.chartstats.com/images/artwork/29561.jpg

eight tracks? is this confirmed? also is that You Tube tracklist real?

some lols here from Vice. not my favourite magazine in the world has to be said but..
http://www.viceland.com/music/2011/02/new-radiohead-album-the-first-review/

piscesx, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Youtube tracklist is fan made.

Moka, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the way Vice has two intros on their made up review. That's something that ruined HTTT and In Rainbows for me is the awkward sequencing where the first two songs sound like first tracks.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, 2+2=5 and Sit Down Stand Up are both good tunes, but fairly similar structurally.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Xpost if radiohead got together with McSweeneys to do something together I would pay more than £30 for it. I spend enough on them separately as it is.

jellybean (back again) (Jill), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/War_Love_is_All_Around.jpg

city worker, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.bagism.com/img/albums/sometime-nyc-cover.jpg

DL, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.bagism.com/img/albums/sometime-nyc-cover.jpg

DL, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I ask for a truce with the newspaper album pics until the actual album gets released.

Moka, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Mmm found this tracklist on atease. I'm an idiot for still laughing at fart jokes.

(1) Thom farting
(2) Jonny farting
(3) Phil farting
(4) Colin farting
(5) Ed farting
(6) Thom and Jonny farting in turns
(7) The whole band farting at once
(8) Lift

Moka, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I ask for a truce with the fart jokes until the actual album gets released.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It's good news.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leba3hIzCB1qzcik8o1_500.gif

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61mSabXVfsL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

^ this thing's getting uglier by the minute

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks like it's on XL in the UK btw

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

That's virtually unreadable.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

The last one was on XL.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

The amount of not so subtle changes in the cover's type is leading me to believe this might not be the actual cover... maybe it's more like a teaser of the final product.

Moka, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's highly unlikely to be a traditional newspaper in the form of most of those album covers though, especially given what we already know about the cover. It might refer to lyrical content as well.

i think it might just mean "suitable for lining the cat's litterbox with"

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 12:32 (5 hours ago) Bookmark

oh SHIT! Somebody gonna need some aloe for that BURN
Get off the bus - you just got TAKEN TO SCHOOOOOL

She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Why are Radiohead so fucking shit at album covers? They're supposed to be a fairly arty band with a lot of aestheticism going on, so why does every cover look like some sort of messy collage project made by children with learning difficulties? I mean, the only one that's vaguely iconic is The Bends - and even that's complete shit.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Stanley Donwood has made the album covers all the way back the bends, fwiw, although Thom collaborates on it with him, I think.

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

the best part about mp3s is never having to look at album covers

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

p.sure donwood had an exhibition last year consisting of mock newspapers covered in dripping paint w/ drawings of creatures attacking each other

"multi-culturalism has failed" - a.wenger (cozen), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

xps I don't think Radiohead has been trying for iconic.

just woke up (lukas), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

The OK Computer cover is great.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, the only one that's vaguely iconic is The Bends - and even that's complete shit.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leba3hIzCB1qzcik8o1_500.gif

markers, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

at leas 'the bends' is an image... 'amnesiac' has to take the cake as the worst

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ 344 post about the cover art!
never change ilm

Aerosol, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

the archive format conversation was better

DJP, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

iatee, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

This cover will get worse every time it is saved in a lossy compression format. Radiohead sucks.

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

huh?

du mein bestie (micarl), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

conflating the two burning issues in this thread

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the cover of Amnesiac, the simple but bold colour scheme works well. OK Computer has a very nothingy cover, I think.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i think the Kid A cover is great. the rest are all whatever, though HTTT's is fun to look at, at first

ciderpress, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

XP: A man who takes on all the kids on his estate for letting down the tyres on his car just to get stabbed for his troubles is simple but bold. The cover of OK Computer fits the themes of the album perfectly.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.mike-gordon.com/gallery/albums/2306f.jpg
new album cover reminds me of this cover. but this cover is good.

call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Hopefully the new album doesn't jam

van smack, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

that phish album is way more off-kilter pop than jam

call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

$60bucks?!?!?!?

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

What's $60? I thought it was 48

van smack, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

The OK Computer cover is great.

it's good (and the art for album that revered usually ends up 'iconic'). Kid A's and Amnesiac's alright. In Rainbows cover sucked. colours and text on this new one really ruin it for me.

sometimes think bands like this should just have a nice (even if 'ironic') photo of them on the cover and stop fronting.

idgi fridays (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link

that phish album is way more off-kilter pop than jam

otm, and because of that one of their best

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

They remind me of some Miyazaki monster:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgKdoZxutZ5yUP3B94kVmx2YVdm0D7E3QuOWbbK11Ljml1KVHJbg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I ask for a truce with the Phish comparisons until the actual album gets released.

emotional air raids exhausted my ♥ (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man was the HTTT cover fun in high school. i think i drew my own versions of it even. with my own oblique vaguely dystopian buzzwords.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i like this cover a lot actually but i kind of think of radiohead as a joke about radiohead now.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man was the HTTT cover fun in high school.

Boy, I know turning forty in a couple of weeks will be a little weird for me, I just didn't realize HOW weird.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Even I was out of high school by the time HTTT came out. D:

Melissa W, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Radiohead formed 26 years ago! Christ.

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Give it seven more years and they'll be older than Jesus.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

STOP

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

The members of Mumford and Sons were being born when Radiohead formed...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Already having a hard enough time dealing with the fact that Richard D James is 40 this year xp

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha you're old. Oh wait. *coughs, leans on cane*

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Give it seven more years and they'll be older than Jesus.

thom seems like the kinda guy who'll have a kierkegaardian crisis when this happens.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

if it helps, i was an upperclassman.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Fear and Trundling

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Either/Or Sliding Doors

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I was in my freaking third tertiary course when HTTT came out. Now I wear slippers and have my hair set on Mondays.

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

The Sickness Unto Death can probably be used unchanged

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Concluding Unscientific Postscript to Philosophical Fragments
is so a B-side.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link

god i have this giant mp3 folder of EVERY RADIOHEAD B-SIDE and now i want to put it on and ugh.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link

fucking love "palo alto".

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Every time I see what we think is the cover of the new album I get Optimistic/In Limbo in my head. It's a perfect image for those songs.

Most women do not like atheism.(8)(9)(10) (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I am digging Thom's (supposed) "alternate" tracklist for HTTT I found somewhere and might not actually be legit:

There There
The Gloaming
Sail to the Moon
Sit Down Stand Up
Go To Sleep
Where I End and You Begin
Scatterbrain
2+2=5
Myxomatosis
Wolf at the Door

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Doesn't have Backdrifts on, which is my favourite.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I like all the tracks he left off, but I must say it flows rather nicely without them.

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

aside from "scatterbrain", the segue from "the gloaming" into "there there" is the only part of that album i really really love, so that'll have to be fixed.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link

god i have this giant mp3 folder of EVERY RADIOHEAD B-SIDE and now i want to put it on and ugh.

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, February 15, 2011 9:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha me too

iirc HTTT came out during my sophomore year of highschool. i think that was also the year i discovered pfork, through a google search for Porcupine Tree of all things

ciderpress, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been tracking down all the Thom Yorke remixes/singles I've yet to hear rather than listening back to all the RH records. "Hearing Damage" is a beaut.

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Finally got & listened to Bodysong today. Grebt.

just woke up (lukas), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 bodysong.

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 04:05 (thirteen years ago) link

"Feeling Pulled Apart By Horses" is a bit of a monster.

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 February 2011 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

When HTTT came out I felt like one of the younger posters on ILX. Now I feel like one of the oldest.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link

First review of the new album:

http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/2011/02/15/new-radiohead-album-the-first-review/

Prick Squad (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Aphex Twin is only 39???

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ srsly

that means he was in his early 20s last time he was relevant...

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link

hey guys just came to add a lol. also that i'm excited and annoyed at myself for being excited.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ srsly

that means he was in his early 20s last time he was relevant...

― for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 10:28 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

Druqks wasn't relevant? There's a little British band who were bigging up his style quite a bit when it came out.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Kid A came out almost ten years ago now BTW.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm, I remember buying it, then took it back to the shop
Me: "It's skipping"
Shop: "It's supposed to sound like that"
Me: "Gimme another one"
Shop: "OK"

Second one was better.

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm, I remember buying it, then took it back to the shop
Me: "It's skipping"
Shop: "It's supposed to sound like that"
Me: "Gimme another one"
Shop: "OK"

Second one was better.

― Mark G

Same thing happened to me with Amnesiac. Only mine I think was really skipping.

Moka, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

(Mine was, also)

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.ateaseweb.com/radiohead2011.jpg

New band press photo. Sort of confirms suspicions this will either be their prog album or maybe something that will sound like Neil Young.

Moka, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link

banjohead

Moka, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Going for the Mumford & Sons demographic is nagl for Radiohead.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

*insert inevitable Under the Greenwood Tree pun here*

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

"Well, Yankee, looks like maybe you done gone strayed into the wrong wood. Wouldn't you say so, boys?"

DL, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Kid A came out almost ten years ago now BTW.

OVER ten years ago.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link

came out on my 20th birthday iirc.

Clay, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost You're right, I was thinking aobut Amnesiac. Ulp! Kid A came out on my 20th birthday as well!

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Banjo the Cobwebs Out of the Sky (4:18)
2. Gucci Little Figgy (6:23)
3. Uptight (Everything's Alright) (Stevie Wonder cover) (3:45)
4. Either/Or Sliding Doors (4:08)
5. One Partridge in a Pear Tree, Two Turtle Doves, Three French Hens, Four Calling Birds, Five Golden Rings and the Six Wives of Henry VIII (12:46)
6. The Amazing Sounds of Porgy and Bess (1:36)
7. Concluding Unscientific Postscript to Philosophical Fragments (2:30)
8. Under The Greenwood Tree (7:13)

Moka, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

^Real officialest tracklist

Moka, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Better than the vice one

philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

That promo pic just reminds me of a different album that was announced one week before it's release:
<img src="http://www.lonelyreviewer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/consoler.jpg";>

MarkoP, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.lonelyreviewer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/consoler.jpg

MarkoP, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Considering it's a newspaper sort of thing I wouldn't be surprised if song titles read like onion headlines, eg:

1. Fat Kid Successfully Avoids Ridicule by Swimming with Shirt On
2. 6 Year Old Stares Down Bottomless Abyss of Formal Schooling
3. U.S. Launches AIDS-Awareness Campaign In Botswana: ‘You All Have AIDS,’ Says U.S.
4. Peregrine Falcon Acting Pretty Cocky Since Being Taken Off Endangered Species List
5. CIA Realizes It’s Been Using Black Highlighters All These Years
6. Johnson & Johnson Introduces 'Nothing But Tears' Shampoo To Toughen Up Newborns
7. Evangelical Scientists refute Gravity with New "Intelligent Falling" Theory
8. Project Manager Leaves Suicide PowerPoint Presentation

Moka, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

do another, i think you might really get it on the next go

Whiney G. Wudangquan (some dude), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

no, you do one.

Moka, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Rubaiyat
2. Each individual into a spark
3. Ferere Roche
4. Vandelabra
5. On the passing of a more innocent time on Wednesday
6. Bit
7. Elongated Paranumbre
8. Rock and Roll Weekend

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

#5 sounds like it'll be an intriguing look back to their early years as 'On A Friday'

Whiney G. Wudangquan (some dude), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Speaker Speaker (3:10)
2. Trawl (6:47)
3. Mangrove Inertia (2:10)
4. Kleptodraniac (5:13)
5. The Realest Loudest Most Impossible Thing (1:01)
6. Loudmouth (The Inhaler) (5:03)
7. The Thirst (7:32)
8. So It Goes (18:46)

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I just panned most of the thread, but did anyone say what exactly the "newspaper" album thing is supposed to be/mean?

van smack, Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Based on the photo upthread, I'd say they (like every British band of the 60s, and maybe Radiohead are just catching on) want to be the Band. I just imagined what Yorke would sound like trying to sing "Up On Cripple Creek." Didn't turn out so well.

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

god help me but i am anticipating this. i haven't ever actively disliked a radiohead album

ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

never heard pablo honey then?

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think it's going to be a cover based on a "newspaper" like the pics up thread. On the website it says, *world's first* newspaper album. I'm guessing that with the info provided on the website, that it will be a kind of create your own album cover.

purpose-built record sleeve

What is a purpose-built sleeve? Just a basic cardboard record sleeve with nothing on it?

Many large sheets of artwork, 625 tiny pieces of artwork and a full-colour piece of oxo-degradeable plastic to hold it all together.

Maybe all these art pieces are to go on the purpose-built sleeve as you see fit. Meaning, YOU are the artist for the cover. I mean, 625 pieces of artwork are a lot of pieces to mess with.

van smack, Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link

never heard pablo honey then?

― if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:37 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

haw. yeah, i've never actually gotten into it? not like "nope, not for me" but never really took the time. i started w/ok computer and never felt compelled to go backwards

ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

bends is dope, kid

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

my iron lung is a jam for the ages

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

talking of which, i personally want 8 talk show hosts.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link

whoops forgot about the bends---i love it!

ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Radiohead is still my favorite band so I'm stoked for this. I wonder at what time will we be able to download this on Saturday?

musicfanatic, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

are there any songs to listen to yet or

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, are we certain this is giong to be eight tracks? (Sorry if source was given upthread - I just skipped through this thread)

musicfanatic, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link

actually just dug out my HS 'driving to school' cd wallet and imported the bends. a hoy hoy 2 u, a hoy hoy

ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

^ I use to use those CD wallets back in the day. Made all of my CDs unplayable after awhile iirc.

musicfanatic, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

With the In Rainbows release they sent out the download e-mails in waves, I think I got mine at like 5 in the morning.

phantompenguin, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

there were like weekly tragedies in high school where someone-or-other's CD wallet would get stolen. it happened so often i always stayed away from them.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread has been living hell but i'm heavily anticipating this.

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

xxpost. Just checked my gmail and it looks like I got mine at 2am Eastern time last time.

sofatruck, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Jim
American Pop Culture is sickening. One of the greatest bands ever, Radiohead, will release a new album Saturday and it wont get 1/100th the fanfare a new Justin Bieber single would.
Today, 4:55:06 PM EST

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/browbeat/archive/2011/02/16/how-worrisome-is-bieber-fever.aspx

Mordy, Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link

there were like weekly tragedies in high school where someone-or-other's CD wallet would get stolen. it happened so often i always stayed away from them.

― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lol this was definitely a thing. mine was actually a CD lozenge. like literally an ovaloid (z) disc (x,y) that accordioned into storage. i bought two of them.

once i figured out that discmans (men?) were allowed in certain school situations (bus, should you be bussing; study hall; between class; lunch if w/e), i just brought the thing with me

ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 17 February 2011 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link

are there any songs to listen to yet or

― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), j

It seems the strongest and one of the most rehearsed of the unreleased songs is 'present tense'. There's several live recordings of it around the internet.
Johnny has used an instrumental version of it on his upcoming 'Norwegian Wood' soundtrack so this either means they really like the song or maybe they were deciding on removing it and Johnny rescued it to use it there.

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Check out recordings of full song in Mexico city and of Thom playing it solo:

http://www.citizeninsane.eu/thepresenttense.html

Might be the echo-y quality but music sounds Sigur Ros-ian.

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 09:07 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks, ian

ledge, Thursday, 17 February 2011 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

A rather slow day of updates, but Radiohead posted a tweet today:

渋谷 ハチ公広場 金曜日 18時59分

which google translates as

Hachiko Square Shibuya, 59 minutes at 18 Friday

I'm guessing 18 is for the hour and not for the date, so:

18:59:00 Friday February 18, 2011 in Japan converts to
09:59:00 Friday February 18, 2011 in GMT

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey I just remembered the webcasts they did after In Rainbows, I hope they do some of that again this time. Those were really fun.

phantompenguin, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Xpost are you saying that's when they'd release the mp3s? Seems more likely that they'd play a show there.

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Nope I have the suspicion they will either broadcast some sort of announcement on the big screens at Hachiko square or even more probably (and better!) do a webcast like the ones they did for IR and Kid A.

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Hachiko square has too much affluence... doesn't seem like an adequate place for shows. There's loads of screens in there tho so they might have rented some seconds to broadcast.

http://www.photopassjapan.com/images/img%206657%20tokyo%20shibuya%20eki%20mae%20hachiko%20square%20kosaten%20-%20shibuya%20station%20hachiko%20square%20crossing%20q%20front%20tsutaya%20building%20starbucks%20cafe%20panorama%20window.jpg

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Godzilla-sized version of the Radiohead bear emerges, eats everyone.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Godzilla-sized version of the Radiohead bear emerges, eats everyone.

― Ned Raggett,

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/turismo417/UltramanandThom.jpg

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

cheers for the new desktop wallpaper

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay so allegedly whatever's happening in Japan is in three hours.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link

The only thing that's stopping me preordering this (mp3) album is the chance of DRM.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 07:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Radiohead event in Shibuya cancelled due to safety concerns. Website broadcast planned. http://bit.ly/gR6DYR

sam500, Friday, 18 February 2011 07:37 (thirteen years ago) link

" People bummed about the Radiohead non-event can enjoy a "special online thingummy" here at 18:59: http://thekingoflimbs.jp "

ie in a couple of hours GMT

sam500, Friday, 18 February 2011 08:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Radiohead don't believe in DRM, Autumn Almanac. And In Rainbows did not have DRM.

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 08:42 (thirteen years ago) link

AWES <3

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 08:45 (thirteen years ago) link

So apparently I wasn't that off on my prediction. They were set to broadcast 6 minutes of something in one of the screens on Shibuya but apparently it has been cancelled and instead they'll do some sort of webcast from the japanese website. Anyone interested I suppose will get to see something over here in an hour:
https://thekingoflimbs.jp/index.php

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 09:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Dissapointed about the Shibuya thing, the whole thing sounded like a brilliant marketing tactic. Maybe too good in fact... apparently they didn't expect such a crazed response from fans... even the japanese government got concerned.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

what, that they might not have been able to see from where they would have been standing?

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Apparently a video to Lotus Flower.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:02 (thirteen years ago) link

so this is not really their folk / prog record but their disco funk record it seems.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I honestly don't know what I just watched.

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I like it!!

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Great video, great tune, A+ dance moves

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Well I loved the song but I don't think he's much of a dancer to support a whole video of it, still love it. Also jamiroquai has better hats.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the song and love the fact that he obviously couldn't give a flying fuck about looking like an idiot.

nate woolls, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Doesn't sound too much like Radiohead tho... it's closer to Thom Yorke's solo stuff.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Doesn't sound too much like Radiohead tho... it's closer to Thom Yorke's solo stuff.

I'd welcome that sound on this album tbh

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Of all the more recent live material, this is one of my least favorite songs. And I don't think they added much to it other than a kind of cliched Radiohead gloss.

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Video for 'Lotus Flower' from The King of Limbs

Produced and Directed by Garth Jennings
Choreographed by Wayne McGregor
Director of Photography- Nick Wood
Editor- Leila Sarraf

Choreographed????

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfOa1a8hYP8

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I like it, seems like a grower.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Ace song. Bought the album.

SEE MEN IN SUITS, OFFER A DECENT PRICE AND SIMULTANEOUS WORLDWIDE RELEASE AND PEOPLE WON'T STEAL YR PRODUCTS

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

OTM.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Apparently the release might be today instead of tomorrow?

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Yup. Link I posted upthread is also confirmed by xl

http://www.xlrecordings.com/

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Today would be good, means I can listen to it at lunchtime/on my way home rather than inflicting it on my Radiohead-hating gf tomorrow.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think it will be out anytime soon tho... probably in around 4 or 5 hours.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link

If it does come out today I won't be able to listen to it till tomorrow by which time this thread will have 3000 posts, the record will have been dissected to death and everyone'll be bored of it.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, at least the poll won't have concluded.

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:53 (thirteen years ago) link

growing on me a bit

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone who ordered, check order tracking because the album is available for download right now.

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Good lord, so it is. Cheers for the tip-off.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link

(I won't get to listen to it until tomorrow but hey)

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Guessing that traffic will be that heavy that downloads won't complete until Sunday anyhow.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, mine's already slowed to 24k (30-40 mins).

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Got it. Longest track is 5.20, bad luck LJ.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Here’s the track list.

1. Bloom
2. Morning Mr Magpie
3. Little By Little
4. Feral
5. Lotus Flower
6. Codex
7. Give Up The Ghost
8. Separator

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Bloom (5:14)
2. Morning Mr Magpie (4:40)
3. Little By Little (4:27)
4. Feral (3:12)
5. Lotus Flower (5:00)
6. Codex (4:46)
7. Give Up The Ghost (4:50)
8. Separator (5:20)

Sorry LJ, no 8-minute epics. Suppose that means it must be shit.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

If it does come out today I won't be able to listen to it till tomorrow by which time this thread will have 3000 posts, the record will have been dissected to death and everyone'll be bored of it.

― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), vrijdag 18 februari 2011 11:50 (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

QFT... Hopefully we'll be in time to catch the second backlash!

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

The opener is sounding very much like something off The Eraser.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Shuffly slightly out of synch sounding drums, no immediate catchiness.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link

It needs to sound like the album cover (or have a different cover) or I will be mad.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, didn't expect to be hearing this tonight/ this morning.

charlie h, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Nothing either proggy or folky so far.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

jesus christ this download is slow

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Distinct lack of dubstep, too.

James Mitchell, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, I must have nipped in just before the queue started. I got mine in about five minutes.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

ysi

ledge, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

kind of hope this thread dies now

thomp, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link

No folk, no dubstep, no shocks (so far) - sounds an awful lot like you'd expect a Radiohead record to sound.

DL, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm gonna take a break from this thread starting now. i'll come back once i've given the album a few solid spins and have my own impression of it.

charlie h, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Well it's certainly the most oblique and understated Radiohead record for a while, a retreat into vaguely solipsistic soundscapes. The second half is stronger on first listen, certainly more traditionally melodic. Not a lot to hit you over the head, it'll take me a few goes to accurately judge the actual quality of the thing.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Everett True gets the knives out

"Sorry. I succumbed. It's like Bono, minus the 'charisma'. It's rock music, minus any of those pesky dynamics you usually associate with the form. It's like those irritating buzzing flies that always come into our kitchen around 5.30pm and buzz around the trails of blood until I get the electric badminton racket out. It's drum'n'bass, watered down and made putrid for popular consumption. It's rock music as mime: all the posturing and none of the substance. Or humour. It's rock music as midlife crisis: premature and unwanted. It's rock music as mud: grey, formless, useless. It's Radiohead. And I do not like it."

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

37 minutes to form a pre-conceived opinion. Not even I know what I think yet.

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Does Everett True generally not like experimentation or innovation? It's rather nice & fresh indeed, imho.

StanM, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Another contribution to an already overheated discourse. It's like Kanye all over again.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago) link

(Sorry, that was aimed at Everett True rather than StanM)

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

This album has nothing to do with drum n bass.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link

why does he have to keep talking abt rock music

just sayin, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

why does he have to keep talking abt rock music

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Only really posted that so i could make shit knives out pun

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

you creep.

StanM, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link

why does he have to keep talking abt rock music

― Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:01 (5 minutes ago)

Why do Radiohead have to keep making music

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Because they hate you

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I had no expections of this anyway, and listening to it now I realize that was probably the right way to go into it.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Because they hate you

― Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:09 (55 seconds ago)

Seems harsh to criticise Everett True for being Everett True, when he's criticising Radiohead for...being Radiohead.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

That Everett True thing is only about the Lotus Flower video, by the way. The rest of the album may be rock enough for him, we don't know yet.

http://www.collapseboard.com/that-new-radiohead-video-reviewed-in-full

StanM, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Where did i criticise Everett True?

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Only Everett True could accuse an album in 2011 of sounding like watered-down drum'n'bass. Of course he was, famously, a true junglist back in the day.

DL, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

He's making a lol claim for relevancy in the post-critic era bless 'im

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Seems a bit harsh to criticise a black and white video for being a bit grey.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Aight first impression:

Bloom: Not fond of the drum loop but gets better towards the middle. Weird sort of opener.
Magpie: Loving the loop thing. Sort of dance/krautrock... Fujiya and Miyagi do this sort of sound much better tho.
Little By Little: Funky percussion and downbeat guitars, sounds like Can a lot. Loving it on first listen.
Feral: I guess this is where all those weeks listening dubstep went in. I like the drum loop but nothing particulary impressive, even more considering the album is only 8 tracks long and this sounds more like one of their more experimental b-sides.
Lotus Flower: Sounds like something off of the Eraser and I'm not really listening the whole band... I guess drums and bass are real... Johnny on synths and ed... probably doing the handclaps. Catchiest song so far but probably because it's the only one I've listened more than once.
Codex: Intro stands out since it's the first song that doesn't sound dominated by electronics. Not a whole lot of things going on... it's a typical Radiohead ballad... probably a grower.
Ghost: A standout sound... sounds Neil Young-esque to me. I was actually expecting the whole album to sound something like this. It seems the thing that differentiates this album from other Radiohead albums is the lack of progressive catharsis, all of this songs are more exercises in styles and don't really seem to have definite choruses or the bombastic growing wall of sounds usually found on the other albums.
Separator: Starts off sounding like a solo thom yorke song once again but guitars around the middle lift it up and make it sound gorgeous. Sort of reminds to Scatterbrain on HTTT.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Morning Mr Magpie? so of all the unreleased tracks they've chosen to record the one I wanted them *the least* to :( What does it sound like? I mean, I love the song very much! But I don't trust Radiohead AD 2011 enough to let them mess with it.

V79, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link

gutted by lack of The Present Tense

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

The Eraser and In Rainbows did very little for me - the aberrant masterpiece of "Reckoner" excepted - but I'm still interested to hear this, but it'll probably be as disappointing as a Gerard Deaprdieu film.

Freedom, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Depardieu

Freedom, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Depradeiu

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Derp adieu

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Strangers in the night!

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Deacon Blue

Freedom, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Morning Mr Magpie? so of all the unreleased tracks they've chosen to record the one I wanted them *the least* to :( What does it sound like? I mean, I love the song very much! But I don't trust Radiohead AD 2011 enough to let them mess with it.

― V79,

Lotus Flower and Ghost have been around as well. Separator is mouse dog bird.

I'm hopefully guessing they will release a series of eps (limbs?) throughout the year. Eight songs leaves me very dissatisfied considering nothing really stuck with me on first listen...

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

This kinda feels like an EP though. A couple of good songs and a lot of filler

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Second listen, still not digging Codex except for the horns/strings. The chord progressions are kind of sappy.

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, moan moan moan, you lot.

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Poll

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Excellent stuff from The Telegraph's track-by-track:

"Spacey echoes lend a Pink Floyd trippiness, if you can imagine the Floyd remixed by Burial for a post clubbing chill out in an urban underground car park."

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link

It's Radiohead, it's what you'd expect, I like it, I'm going to bed.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Most frustrating thing about this album, to me, is the lack of dynamics. You can turn your speakers up loud before it even starts and never have to worry about it getting too loud. That's where left-turn albums like Portishead's Third seemed to reward repeat listens if you weren't swayed right away. Dynamism led to anticipatory listening, whereas this album is just a string of never-changing buzz.

Yeah, some of the songs are nice, but I'm thinking you either get it the first time around or you don't.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't meant to say I was unhappy about it, I'm sure I will be listening to it all month... it sounds good on first listen and I've had the same sort of feeling with every Radiohead album. They really are more of seducers than attackers.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it took me three or four listens to love In Rainbows... I genuinely don't think this one is as good though.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link

In Rainbows, for its faults, at least had some variation in style. This is just quiet/quieter.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Like Talk Talk?

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, I don't think dynamics are necessarily just to do with volume. I'm not going to write it off as one-note till I've dug a little deeper.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Are there any track-by-tracks better than the Telegraph one around? They seem to have got a sixth former in to write it.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

a grower/sleeper/quiet radiohead album sounds good to me right now. can't wait to hear this!

i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link

ooh that Telegraph review...

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Are there any track-by-tracks better than the Telegraph one around? They seem to have got a sixth former in to write it.

― Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap)

Mine upthread of course.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

So... are the Tim Hecker and PJ Harvey albums better than this one?

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

PJ's is for sure. I haven't heard the Hecker album.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Still waiting for the postman to bring me the Tim Hecker. Got high hopes though.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Hate the PJ bar one or two tracks, like-love this so far, haven't heard the Tim Hecker yet.

Melissa W, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe no dubstep influence but there's a VERY obvious Flying Lotus influence on the first song, especially the part that sounds like someone photocopying an orchestra. You could put it on Cosmogramma and no one would notice. Predictably enough, seeing as Thom Yorke is actually on Cosmogramma.

Only heard the first three songs but it sounds like this is their rhythm album. They've never really done beats particularly well but they seem to be doing so here, picking up from where 15 Step left off. The percussion loop on Little By Little is lovely, like a faster Matias Aguayo, or 10 Villalobos records played over one another.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ouOkdgteoY

StanM, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

A meme is born.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

'their rhythm album' is a rly dispiriting phrase

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that video is total viralbait, there'll be versions of Thom Yorke dancing to Just Dance, Whip My Hair, hell, any song you can think of within days.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

damn, wasn't expecting this to be out already, gonna be a long workday now

ciderpress, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

u don't have to listen to it

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Codex is pretty.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Figures, the site's completely swamped now.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah wait...working. I might get to hear this this morning after all.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

me: ten minutes ago, waking up to click on this thread to see what the japan thing was *OMGOMGOMG*
me: two songs in, thinking waste of £6. Did their rhythm section has a collective aneurysm?

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

'Give Up The Ghost' the one that stood out for me on first listen. Playing through a second time now.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

All four second half tracks seem really solid, undecided on the first half.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Guardian review:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/feb/18/radiohead-king-limbs-first-review

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

It's getting better as it goes along - up to Lotus Flower which is alright. But honestly I'm cool with forgetting this existed by the end of the day. At least In Rainbows had meme tracklistings.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

if i read correctly upthread that there's a dubstep vibe to some of this, that will prompt me to order it asap.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

that said Shlubstep iirc

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

its doesn't have guitars != dupstep afaik but what do i know i don't get paid to write for the torygraph

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Codex sounds alright, I like the big stabs of piano.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Opener is pleasingly Four Tet-y.

Simon H., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Guardian and NME reviews: We dont really like this but it will probably grow on us ...aka we'll play it safe and we wont actively dislike it in case everybody else thinks it was one of the best records come the end of the year.

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Could be loosely construed as being dubstep influenced, but only loosely. Unless my ipod dock is cutting out shitloads of sub bass.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Guardian and NME reviews: We dont really like this but it will probably grow on us ...aka we'll play it safe and we wont actively dislike it in case everybody else thinks it was one of the best records come the end of the year.

"grow on us"

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

if i read correctly upthread that there's a dubstep vibe to some of this, that will prompt me to order it asap.

― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:02 (8 minutes ago)

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Guardian and NME reviews: We dont really like this but it will probably grow on us ...aka we'll play it safe and we wont actively dislike it in case everybody else thinks it was one of the best records come the end of the year.

pffff . . . this is just telling me to avoid reading the reviews.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

You'll be disappointed if you're expecting a dubstep vibe but they've obviously been listening to a lot of post-dubstep and that comes out in 'Feral', especially the bass in the second half. Four Tet maybe a better comparison point - 'Separator' especially reminds me of the beat on 'She Moves She'.

Love the whole thing on first listen, I like how the first half is very repetitive and polyrhythmic and then it opens out into the ballads in the second half. 'Lotus Flower' feels very different melodically to anything else they've done but I'm struggling to put my finger on why.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Lotus Flower reminds me most of Backdrifts, one of my favourite HTTT cuts.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok yeah otm whoever said SECOND HALF BETTER THAN TEH FIRST. May have even done enough to make me listen to this again. Really though I just wanna find out my copy of HTTT after that and treat listening to it like a cold shower.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

if we have to deal with MY BIG DARK HANDSOME FANTASY MAN esque craziness and reviews all year then grrr. If not, I may end up enjoying half of this record when I feel obliged to listen to it once a year.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not through this yet and I can already guarantee you that this will not get that sort of critical response.

Simon H., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

This sounds a bit like two kinda disparate EPs stuck together - makes me think there's more material to come this year.

Simon H., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Hopefully black metal influenced.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Given that King of Limbs is quite a restrained subtle album and the Kanye record is the exact opposite I'd say Simon H otm.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually it'd be a pretty neat trick to put this record out, then six months later release an album of twelve world-beating rock anthems without warning.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

otoh its radiohead guys

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah but this is really more Thom Solo Mk II, which I don't think is what any critical establishment really wants/expects from them.

Simon H., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

IE, as someone else noticed upthread, they pretty well ditched the build-catharsis mode of songwriting/arranging.

Simon H., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

It sort of threatens to do that towards the end of track two, then just eases back into the shuffly despondent groove. Possibly this is Thom Yorke's idea of being mischievous.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think it's Thom Solo Mk II - it feels like Phil is the bedrock of everything going on here and it's all about the interplay between the various bandmembers. The Eraser feels very rudimentary in comparison.

A Hoy Hoy - I don't get what you're saying? That's its going to get mad critical hype? Yeah, durr, but probably no more than In Rainbows did.

Tom E pointed out that actually this is the sort of hype you get when a new Lady Gaga video appears. Announcement and brief anticipation beforehand, then bang straight up for snap social media judgements. They're comfortable with working in this climate in a way other bands don't seem to be.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Gorgeous, subtle music.

Touch of Death, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey I haven't heard this yet, but wasn't In Rainbows a relatively short, slightly more subtle game of two parts (those parts being the first two tracks versus the rest of the album) as well?

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

It's like In Rainbows meets Amnesiac I think.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

It’s too early to say that this could be Radiohead’s best album to date, but I’m tempted.

http://thequietus.com/articles/05721-radiohead-king-of-limbs-review

(I am not tempted)

DL, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Bloom
Short of irrelevancy, but who else could this be? A strong starter

Morning Mr Magpie
Attempting a surprise, breaking down at least ten barriers here but theres still 4 left.

Little By Little
slower than it seems, it has everyone's ear without asking

Feral
the cosiest track here, funnily enough

Lotus Flower
sometimes you have to give the followers/copyists something easy to understand

Codex
Keeping it internal.

Give Up The Ghost
There's a signpost to future directions within this one, and it's not pointing where you think it is.

Separator
An odd choice for a final track, but then again, it's separating this album from whichever album you listen to next.

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

It’s too early to say that this could be Radiohead’s best album to date, but I’m tempted.

wow i said the exact same thing a week ago.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I know publications are going to be falling all over themselves to get the earliest reviews up, but man, I wish some people would sit with it for at least 24 hours before publishing stuff.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

parsing that review:

irritating

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah these "instant reviews" really suck. Arent Radiohead like, known for making "deep" music you can't figure out in one listen? "I thought it was pretty good, there was one part I really liked on track 5, or maybe 6, I may or may not like this in the future"

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll be interested to see how long online publications take to put up their "proper" reviews.

Simon H., Friday, 18 February 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

TBH, given the absurdity of having to post a review this soon, I prefer the candid uncertainty of the Guardian review to the florid hyperbole elsewhere.

DL, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

pitchfork on monday? everyone's looking to them. they have to be having emergency office meetings right now

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Allmusic have changed their rating already.

(nr)

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lol "emergency office meetings"

van smack, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

As I say, I have to wait till tomorrow to hear a note of this, but I do think track 5 is the best one by far.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Here it is then: suddenly upon us, with a lack of promotional build-up that is, of course, the most effective fanfare in itself: the new Radiohead album, given a week’s notice and launched a day earlier than expected at that. It’s a media event, most certainly; and no doubt many column inches will be given over to discussing the marketing, the presentation, the notion of what being a rock band on a record label in 2011 actually means, and so on. But most importantly, King of Limbs is a collection of songs, and it’s the strength of those songs that must inevitably support the whole preposterous edifice.

It's the Phil McNulty of rock!

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, first 4 tracks are something I didn't expect from them somehow - dark, brooding Yorketronica, very Eraser/TMGLMOAT-like (and I'm happy to hear that!)

and I think they screwed Mr Magpie completely. check this version instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8wFHpHHtoY

V79, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

It's the Phil McNulty of rock!

― Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 14:59

WHO THE FUCK READS THE GUARDIAN?

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lolz.

maybe the thing i dislike the most is that the title is kol, like it was inspired from that other great kings of li-band

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Appropriately elemental imagery anyway, before the lyrics give way to plaintive hums, moans and the repeated sound of his breath being caught; the voice as an instrument to be played and manipulated, and already we’re into one of the album’s abiding themes, an embrace of technological media at the same time as a yearning for the purity of unmediated nature.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I’ll merely note the contrast between the guilty magpie’s appropriation of art and magic, presumably for cynical or commercial reasons, and Yorke's previously noted exhortation to just “open your mouth wide”. This can be taken as shorthand for the primal self-expression and un-tethered imaginative possibilities that remain the source of great art and music, and which exist in their purest form in the free jazz, folk idioms and experimentation for its own sake that Radiohead seem to be looking to for inspiration on this record.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't gotten around to listening to the album yet. Been too busy watching that Lotus Flower video while playing different music against it, like Justin Bieber's Somebody to Love and Lady Gaga's Born This Way. Someone needs to mix a video of that.

MarkoP, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

A glassy, opaque guitar slides in as Yorke begins pleading for someone to wake him up, presumably from the somnambulistic state of modern life, in which man is cut off, separated from nature and true reality, although he could also be singing about the end of this drowsily hypnotic, dreamlike collection of songs.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

presumably from the somnambulistic state of modern life

He's serious about this phrase isn't he

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

*puts on mirrored sunglasses*

xp

ledge, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Been too busy watching that Lotus Flower video while playing different music against it, like Justin Bieber's Somebody to Love and Lady Gaga's Born This Way. Someone needs to mix a video of that.

What was that Jordy the baby song?

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Try it with 'I Like To Move It Move It'.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Peanut Butter Jelly Time

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

A glassy, opaque guitar slides in as Yorke begins pleading for someone to wake him up, presumably from the somnambulistic state of modern life, in which man is cut off, separated from nature and true reality, although he could also be singing about the end of this drowsily hypnotic, dreamlike collection of songs.

So when does the new Bieber album come out??

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

okay listening to "Lotus Flower" now and YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS this is basically what I want them to sound like all the time

DJP, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

in which man is cut off, separated from nature and true reality

Better still.

DL, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the tune. But the video and its star's clumsy mirror moves reminds me of why Yorke is such a putz.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Slowly sliding backwards as it ebbs to and fro, Yorke's detached plaintive cathartic ululations hover restlessly over guarded yet ever-present synth. Syncopated rhythms cascade quietly like so many bats escaping the dawn. A kind of post-step paean to twilight echoing forever over washes of treated guitar feedback. This is Radiohead at their very best, but at the same time one worries it might not live up to the giddy standards of previous masterpieces.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, he's not listened to it either yet.

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

This is Radiohead at their very best, but at the same time one worries it might not live up to the giddy standards of previous masterpieces.

What. the. fuck. Shut up shut up shut up shut up. Don't write any more please.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 this record so far

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDojAE7oZo8

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Mmm, post-step

DL, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't blame a blogger for bashing out a quick one for the new Radiohead, but that guy has really worked himself into a lather. I think he might actually need catheterising.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Aww, the site's down for the moment.

old man yells at poop first thing in the morning (pixel farmer), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

What. the. fuck. Shut up shut up shut up shut up. Don't write any more please.

― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:39 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Calm down dear, it's only a parody ;-)

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

and no, I haven't heard it yet.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

It is the best Radiohead album. Is it the best? Some might not think so. But it might be.

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Given the chances, it very well could be!

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

skimmed this thread, haven't heard the album and will probably wait for the CD release.

the references to Flying Lotus, Four Tet, Aguayo, Villalobos on one hand make me really excited (would LOVE radiohead to take a turn to those sounds); alternatively, all those guys are such absolute fucking masters of their crafts that i doubt radiohead can improve on anything they already do very well. it would be like one of them trying to make a Radiohead record, right? who would want to hear that?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Really enjoyed it on a first listen here. Quiet, contemplative, elegiac, especially liked how it was sequenced as it went. Sure I was predisposed for it but I'm happy to be.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Even if there can't be found a single person on earth who thinks it's their best album, it still might be.

xp

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Goodness – "Bloom" is a grottier variant on this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pTcO4IzhuI

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The ultimate Radiohead gaff would be if the boys actually released a bunch of Midlake outtakes in place of the real album.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Sure I was predisposed for it but I'm happy to be.

Ned, shouldn't most of your listening these days have this disclaimer attached? just sayin...

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

30 minutes left on my download!!! On slower internet than usual as I'm in South Africa....

Cannot effing wait.

Davek (davek_00), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ an 8-track album taking 30 mins

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

the references to Flying Lotus, Four Tet, Aguayo, Villalobos on one hand make me really excited (would LOVE radiohead to take a turn to those sounds); alternatively, all those guys are such absolute fucking masters of their crafts that i doubt radiohead can improve on anything they already do very well. it would be like one of them trying to make a Radiohead record, right? who would want to hear that?

I may have overegged the pudding a bit with Villalobos. But they've definitely been listening to a lot of that stuff and it's coming through in the drums if nothing else, but saying that Radiohead are "turning to those sounds" would be excessive.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Calm down dear, it's only a parody ;-)

I thought it was a quote from a serious review.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Most of my listening is what it is. There is no throughline.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

the references to Flying Lotus, Four Tet, Aguayo, Villalobos on one hand make me really excited (would LOVE radiohead to take a turn to those sounds); alternatively, all those guys are such absolute fucking masters of their crafts that i doubt radiohead can improve on anything they already do very well. it would be like one of them trying to make a Radiohead record, right? who would want to hear that?

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:50 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Well this is exactly how I felt about Kid A when it first came out; that it was a thinly-veiled attempt at Warp-style IDM that had failed. It took a long time for me to get over that hump, being a huge Autechre/Twin fan at the time of release. I hear it completely differently now, maybe because it went on to influence more music than it was previously influenced by; so in context it's absolutely marvellous.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Calm down dear, it's only a parody ;-)

I thought it was a quote from a serious review.

― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:54 (47 seconds ago) Bookmark

Gotcha!

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Site back up, quick transaction, DL'ed in less than a minute. Nice.

old man yells at poop first thing in the morning (pixel farmer), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

my download was super fast btw

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

man i wonder how many mbs the compressed archive of this album is going to be!

― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ledge, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

My download is fluctuating between 14 kb/s and 50 kb/s, but I must say I am enjoying the anticipation.

Davek (davek_00), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I never really saw Kid A as IDM but more of like an electronic Krautrock album. It is basically one big tribute to Neu!/Can/Kraftwerk; the title track is very similar to "Radioland", for instance. I like Kid A a lot more because of that.

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Thom had apparently bought up the whole Warp back catalogue not too soon before writing Kid A, but I'm sure Kraut came into it too (not so familiar with Can and Neu!, I really ought to be). In retrospect there's a LOT more going on with Kid A than simply being an Autechre album with guitar and vocal as I once thought.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't like this album anymore. I think it's fucking shit.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

uhhhh guys the dancing Thom Yorke vid for "Lotus Flower" is really creepy, looks like some shit out of A Clockwork Orange! and yeah this is really FlyLo/Warp + krautrock sounding

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i listened to 'everything in its right place' the other day and that sounds absolutely monstrous now compared to the thin synth sounds and spacious/empty production that is in vogue right now

ciderpress, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

it's just the hat dude.

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got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

It's the face.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

on first listen this didn't really grab me or blow me away. seemed like a lot of the songs started with an interesting rhythmic idea but then that idea didn't really get developed upon. makes me wonder if the songwriting was loop-based (ie taking a segment of a jam or something a band member brought in, looping it, and then adding stuff on top), it has that feel.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe this is Radiohead's Remain In Light then? Also based on looping and jamming.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I've read that comparison more than once now!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to that acoustic version of 'mr magpie' makes me think that maybe these started as songs, and got deconstructed until they were happy with them. the hooks seem to be popping out to me more even on the second listen.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

ha that lotus flower video is a gift to all makers of animated gifs

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

This is wicked so far guys.

Davek (davek_00), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Trumpets on Codex! Spectacular. Have a feeling this'll take longer to unpack than IR. Way too much to process on listen 1. That means it's probably great, by the way.

Davek (davek_00), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

loooooooool xxp

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

regardless of how it was made this album does not at all resemble remain in light

difficult listening hour, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

This is why you never post on RYM:

Topic: So Radiohead's going to have the top album for the 90s 00s and 10s
Message: Assuming LP8 will be a typical Radiohead album

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

'Little By Little' is pretty great, very HTTT imo. Also think j0rdan OTM above. The hooks definitely are there.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

"Little by little, by hook or by crook. I'm such a tease and your such a flirt." I think that's what the line is anyway.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, the speculation about another album has started already:
"The final track Is Called "Separator" and the last line is "If you think this is over then you're wrong'"

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

knew it

Davek (davek_00), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Also think j0rdan OTM above

i know it's confusing but j0rdan is the other jordan

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

would be really cool if they released more stuff tomorrow. is this really all they can come up with in 4 years?

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Also think j0rdan OTM above

i know it's confusing but j0rdan is the other jordan

― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, February 18, 2011 5:27 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Sorry!

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

He bought all the Warp back catalogue ... and was influenced by Maximo Park's bowler hat.

djh, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

In Rainbows felt really cold and boring to me but this is making me very, very happy.

plax (ico ico) (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Also the drums on the first four songs sound, like, exactly the same.

plax (ico ico) (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

same drummer iirc

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Hearing the live versions of the few songs that made it... Fun to compare, see what they did to them in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDl-oAiLL5U

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

thom looking very 1994 in that youtube still frame

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

same drummer iirc

except he doesn't play on those songs? always had the sense that phil isn't that involved in the drum programming.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF3Ygqu95KE&feature=related

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIMCO-s2gKc

Moka, Friday, 18 February 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

revealing itself after the third or so spin to be quite the gentle, opulent grower. as others have said, the second half is very strong. i have no problem with how the album's paced -- there seems to be an intelligent logic to the structure with the last two songs serving as a subtle and fitting apex.

charlie h, Friday, 18 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

did flea play bass on the record? anything flea or RHCP-related veers into insta-hate territory for me

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

This is really interesting to read all the thoughts, what with not being able to hear it until tonight. (YouTube blocked at work and can't download til I get home). I am breaking down and ordering the deluxe package though.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Another take.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 February 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

that is an awful take.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh not diggin the samples i've heard. when greenwood claimed that even he considered In Rainbows a complete bore I had a ton of hope for this next one. It's the same shit!

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Friday, 18 February 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Is there any question they accumulated massive popularity from wedding Bono's airy largesse to Nirvana's cathartic chaos? And then again for assimilating technology? Anyway, this also has a distinct TP-808 drum machine and the steadiest beat so far.

Awesome macro to micro segue there.

DL, Friday, 18 February 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

people didn't like "In Rainbows"? I thought it was one of their best

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 18 February 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

"when greenwood claimed that even he considered In Rainbows a complete bore"

serious? when and where did which greenwood say this?

charlie h, Friday, 18 February 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

It was Josh Greenwood of Normal, Illinois; as an aside to his History 105 T.A. during an after-class discussion about Radiohead on April 12, 2010.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

jeeze, it was forever ago. but i am certain i actually saw it on pitchfork. anyone else know what i'm talking about? can't seem to cue up anything in google.

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Friday, 18 February 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Yorke's more 60-40 on the sinuous/moaning scale than 40-60 this time

We may have a winner for LVS (least valuable sentence)

frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Biggest hint there may be another album in the works: this album is short. Like, 37 minutes short.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 February 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

yet to read a decent burn on this

"multi-culturalism has failed" - a.wenger (cozen), Friday, 18 February 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, actually, bits of this sound like the "Radiohead Shreds" video.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 February 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

kelpolaris, not finding anything either. You absolutely sure he wasn't saying something like "composing for movies is something completely new and exciting for me after recording another studio album with the band" - because that's the vibe I got from the interviews I read with him after In Rainbows - and you translated that into "In Rainbows is boring" ?

StanM, Friday, 18 February 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone who thinks the drums are the same on the first three songs either isn't listening properly or lacks a sense of rhythm.

Doubt either Greenwood said that, these are all collaborative projects not Yorke dictatorships.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

those guitars at the beginning of 'little by little' are very deceptive...pretty sure they're actually on the upbeat, but they always feel like a downbeat at first and turn the whole beat around

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

So far I love it. Tracks 1 - 7 have that "hmm...this is interesting, let me spend some time to get inside of this" kinda vibe. And then Separator comes in at the end with a sledgehammer delivering that "holy sh&t, this is incredible!" instant love. YMMV.

xtianDC, Friday, 18 February 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, separator is an early favourite for me. along with codex.

charlie h, Friday, 18 February 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Can definitely imagine a sequel to this. Not out of the ordinary from the way the band generally have approached recording in the past (Kid A/Amnesiac, Hail To The Thief/its bounteous supply of b-sides and In Rainbows/the companion album released with the discbox edition). What's harder to imagine is the band recording less than 40 minutes of material and stopping. But with these guys, there's no such thing as surprise, is there?

xtianDC, Friday, 18 February 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Ack...poorly worded. What I meant was "a lack of surprise"...

xtianDC, Friday, 18 February 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe instead of the dramatic shift to EPs that they've been threatening since like 1998 is going to come about through a gradual shortening of running times.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

'separator' has these little guitar and vocal bits that keep making me think of 'stairway to heaven' and 'just my imagination', respectively

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

My iTunes playlist finished this album and then started right into "Street Spirit," and for a second my ears perked up, like, oh, a melody! Then I recognized it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 February 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder if the video to Lotus Flower is in reverse? Like Like Spinning Plates except this time with dancing instead of singing?

i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

separator is gorgeous

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

def the strongest track

iatee, Friday, 18 February 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

30 minutes left on my download!!! On slower internet than usual as I'm in South Africa....

HOWZIT

Nothing on this album is strong enough that I've woken up with it on my brain (I woke up with nothing on my brain). Expected to wake to a flurry of internet noise but it's not even close, and Twitter seems a bit more concerned about a client being banned, wah.

Anyway, most people will hate this.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

ok

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

"Little by Little" is superb, reminds me of a more restrained 2+2=5. And then "Separator" blows everything else away.

Si.Carter, Friday, 18 February 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

mr magpie has a sweet groove. the picky guitar stuff sounds kinda african

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 February 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"give up the ghost" is way more O_O than separator

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i like the bass on this

just sayin, Friday, 18 February 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I suspect this is a double album.

Touch of Death, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

this sounds kinda slight on first listen - similar production/sound to in rainbows but without as much of the build+release catharsis thing that characterized a lot of their famous tracks. it's just kinda drifting. 'separator' is the lone exception at the moment

ciderpress, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

d/led the rar earlier but haven't felt like livbloggin until now

bloom -- atmospheric soundscapes from the former parlophone men, they will want to keep up this good form throughout the record's duration you feel

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

morning mr magpie 0:00-0.53 -- jittery stuff now from lazy eyed warbler yorke

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

digging thom dorke's snarly chaplin imperse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xgeT2hzxrQ

ofwgktaxlrmde (cozen), Friday, 18 February 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Really loving Little by Little and The Ghost of Old ILX. Definitely sounds like there's more to come.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 18 February 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

morning mr magpie 0:53-4:40 - difficult not to feel they have been listening to a lot of shitty lectrodrib music that ppl in their late 30s buy in bulk from soul jazz records.....but at the end of the day the eldritch synths restore some dignity after a disappointing first half

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

little by little -- this will have been seen by many as an 'anodyne' and 'solipsistic' venture from the ppl responsible for such fourth tracks as 'exit music (for a film)

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

feral -- yet more evidence of absorption of pastoral schaffel, chill jazz and proto-wonky tetwave idm in the shuffly and some would say indeterminately 'ethnic' polyrhythms..........redeemed by random softsynth outro, c+

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

lotus flower 0:00-1:57 -- difficult to appresh without the - literally - paroxysmic figure of the behatted yorke bringing the jigglepanda to the otherwise restrained radiohead brand

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yorke bringing the jigglepanda

aaagh, I wish I could unimagine this now

old man yells at poop first thing in the morning (pixel farmer), Friday, 18 February 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

lotus flower 1:57-5:00 -- yorke shows poise, restraint - even dignity - though some will feel he is constrained by a melodic figure insufficiently developed by his underperforming backing musicians

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

codex -- difficult to be facetious about this excellent song, but what about scott walker? some will feel the chiswick-based troubadour has outdone yorke with his imagist balladry in recent years - one thing is for sure though, the oft-overlooked younger greenwood brother is in fine fettle in the max richterish ersatz classical arrangements

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

give up the ghost -- the eponymous spectre may well be that of the comb-in-tissuepaper timbres that haunt this otherwise delicate and atmospheric piece of work from the celebrated abingdon alumni

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

separator - nigel godritch shines in the epigramatic closer, you feel he has outdone himself on this album, but the final word goes to seasoned lyricist yorke - who would have thought that the former on a friday man had it in him? alls well that ends well and at the end of the day you can't ask for more than that

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

nakhchivan, you`re killing it. we need to give you award for music criticism.

rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Friday, 18 February 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ty - feel i need to give a shout out to my longtime mentor and - i'm humbled to say - friend, phil mcnulty of the bbc

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

The hell? I enter my e-mail address in Order Tracking, and it says it "doesn't exist." The very same e-mail address the receipt was sent to...hmmm...

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 February 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

lotus flower 1:57-5:00 -- yorke shows poise, restraint - even dignity - though some will feel he is constrained by a melodic figure insufficiently developed by his underperforming backing musicians

― nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 22:59 (Yesterday) Bookmark

radiohead 1992-2011, albums 1-8

1 boring, 2 alright, 3 pretty good, 4 decent, 5 peak point, 6 good, 7 okay, 8 shite.

jumpskins, Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link

had a few listens and am finding this a little dull.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I've had two listens. The second one was more enjoyable, but this is maybe the first radiohead album where I'm not hearing a single song that I would like to play on repeat.

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

:(

which makes me really sad. i first heard about ILX through the radiohead messageboard, actually

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Just got done with the first listen. I find it extremely boring and don't know if I even want to revisit it anytime soon.

van smack, Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Give it a second listen.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

It was sort of boring on the second listen, too, but it was great played quietly at dinner tonight. This is like an album of subtle interstitials from an album we haven't heard yet.

Speaking of which, I'm curious how a band like this would do with a pledge drive model. Like, "Here is our album for sale. If we sell x copies, we will release a new single/EP/album for free."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Three times now. It's not getting better, and it's definitely one of their worst, but it's still a good album.

I think the release strategy encouraged hopes of grandeur, and perhaps the fact that it's not all that is sitting uncomfortably with some.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

It's also incredibly pretentious but I mean hello it's Radiohead.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i wish i wasn't tired of his voice. how to un-tire?

harlan, Saturday, 19 February 2011 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link

sudden release = no hype = not proud of album = maximize profits w/ "revolutionary new packaging"

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Saturday, 19 February 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

that doesn't really make sense, though, to say they released it suddenly because they weren't proud of it. they released in rainbows 10 days after announcing it, and that was great.

kaygee, Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Too many ppl in here talking about In Rainbows' greatness as if it were some incontrovertible fact. Really messes with a lot of folks' credibility...

kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm leaving myself the option to ending up loving this eventually (right now I like just about every track, but I'm not shitting my pants over any single song), but I would go ahead and say this is the first radiohead album since OK Computer that won't be a "best of 2011" consensus top 10 pick. Not that that matters, but I'm already getting that feeling that the follow-up will be tagged with a "return to form" kind of label.

xpost In Rainbows was awesome

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

and also pfffft at making fun of In Rainbows like it's the most obvious fucking thing in the world that it sucked. There are plenty of things that I'm not in love with but I wouldn't think it would take a collapse in credibility for others to like

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

my wife likes that first video that was released today. she's been doing the thom yorke dance this evening.

and yes, in rainbows was (still is) awesome.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link

lol - i actually just put on In Rainbows after failing to make it through Limbs again!

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got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a solid album and i may just thom dance to it.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

he truly is the king of limbs *tears*

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, that reminds me, i'm more sympathetic to a thom spazz out dance than most people, but good lord that video. it would be one thing to do that to a song like idioteque, but it seems kinda inappropriate for a song on the level of lotus flower (and like I said, I enjoy Lotus Flower but don't love it (yet)).

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Lotus Flower >>>>>>>> 75% of In Rainbows

(& actually pffft to anyone acting like OK Computer wasn't the most consensus of Radiohead picks, certainly the first EoY consensus pick, tho perhaps that's what u meant...?

kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

)

kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link

forgive me - but what's EoY?

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

End-of-year

kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, I meant to include OKC as a consensus end of the year pick.

you are taking me apart, Lisa! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link

in rainbows part 2 was better than this

iatee, Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link

not that this is bad, but I've listened to it like 8 times now and I still can't really remember which song is which

iatee, Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Surely this is the best example of this meme there has been or will be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzYERyX7XIA

Tim F, Saturday, 19 February 2011 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link

not that this is bad, but I've listened to it like 8 times now and I still can't really remember which song is which

Hey, don't talk shit about Hail to the Thief.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 19 February 2011 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link

This seems a little back-loaded on the first few listens. I think I still like it a lot though.

monster_xero, Saturday, 19 February 2011 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

finally listen to this for the first time. it just seemed kind of there...floating on top of everything, made me want to get high though. 37 minutes and only eight songs seems short but this was only the first listen and was just OK.

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Saturday, 19 February 2011 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link

So I still haven't heard this. It will have to wait till tomorrow.

But a friend and I sat up talking all night and listening to select tracks from Pablo Honey onwards, including B-sides like 'Faithless The Wonderboy', 'How Can You Be Sure' and 'Molasses.

It's actually incredible how far this band has come and how consistent the output.
Someone I know who works for a large record company wrote today on Facebook: "Note to the world - Radiohead haven't made a good album in over ten years". I could only say that they've never made a record that's disappointed me.

I don't count myself as a huge huge fan, but Radiohead have been a part of my life since The Bends helped me through those horrible pubescent years; OK Computer challenged my burgeoning ego as a sixth former; Kid A and Amnesiac soundtracked my university years while Hail To The Thief confirmed me as a working adult with a proper girlfriend and a workaday job... In Raibows came out on the perfect Autumn day, a couple days after I turned 27. No job. Broke. Not a care. Went out cycling with my friend. At ease. Not thinking too much.

Then you listen to Lewis (Mistreated). Just another random b-side. And now you think they're the biggest and most deserving band in the universe. These grunge opportunists. These impassioned opportunists. These negative creeps.

Hail to Radiohead.
I can't wait to hear what they've got in store for my thirties.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry /drunk

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link

of course i'd like to sit around and chat, but it's 5 in the mornign and i've been on the stoli. goodnight ilm.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

'nite!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

if you're having trouble sleeping, try putting on the new album!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i haven't got it yet.

hypnotised by old tunes.

currently: in limbo

if i could move i'd go to bed and/or download the new album. but i've no money till monday. bah!

tempted to use soulseek. this is really bad, isn't it?

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOlqBtl_cYg

riding home at night on a country lane. school tomorrow. headlights coming up fast.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

it's not really bad, in fact it's not even bad, it's just not amazing or memorable

iatee, Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i remember it from 15 years ago.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

For me this album really lacks a centerpiece. I like/love it, and it's not going to affect how much I stan for Radiohead, but it's definitely not my favorite, and I think they can do better. And I think they will in the future. It's just a strange interlude but it doesn't sound like an end to their ability to write great music.

Melissa W, Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Because this still contains man elements that I love.

Melissa W, Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

many. not man. I don't know how I feel about man elements.

Melissa W, Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone I know who works for a large record company wrote today on Facebook: "Note to the world - Radiohead haven't made a good album in over ten years".

Sour grapes?

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Tim F is wrong about the Pony one.

THIS is the best version of the meme there has been or ever will be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjOUKXqm9Q

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone else notice that in the fine print for the 'Newspaper' edition that it takes 25 days from dispatch to be delivered? So it will more than likely be June before we get 'em over here.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYq1oqtQ7k0

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I really am glad about this video, because the meme is way more entertaining than the album.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link

new thom dancing meme is also way more entertaining than more reactions, so i'll chop chop -

1st listen - what are ppl complaining about, the production is typically gorgeous and musicianship is A+
2nd - 4th listens - eh, there's no Reckoner on here, or anything I can remember or hum later. Radiohead - tunes = wtf?
5th listen (several hours later) - still can't really hum anything but the sound is more addictive. Great I have a new tuneless drug.

Cosmo Vitelli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 08:22 (thirteen years ago) link

after some more listening i think 'codex' is a worthy successor to 'pyramid song' and 'sail to the moon', really lovely tune

ciderpress, Saturday, 19 February 2011 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I like them at their most krauty so this is as up my street as they ever get, by and large.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 19 February 2011 08:44 (thirteen years ago) link

As I alluded to above, this is their first album which is absolutely fine - just fine - while it's on, but truly pales in comparison to their previous output. It's nowhere even near "The Eraser." Should have been a free-EP teaser for a forthcoming album that has songs on it.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

(Lack of songs on this album being hyperbole, but nothing here jumps out as a particularly strong song, or even a strong composition.)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 February 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of hyperbole, LOL at this NYTimes take: "Most of the new album is so vertiginously layered that it’s plausible the band spent nearly four years in the studio making it." Four years? Come on.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Benny Hill meme doesn't work because there is no need to speed up what is already ridiculous and fast.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i dig this record so far.

not as immediate or warm-sounding as in rainbows. but for as much as i loved that album, after i'd digested the hooks, i felt little need to return to it. i think this king of limbs disc will be the reverse: it will take a long time for it to sink in, but in the meantime and beyond, i'll want to keep listening to it (kind of the way i felt about OKC and Kid A, actually).

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to Radiohead - 'Vegetable' youtube.
It's like they took verse chorus verse and perfected it (radiohead style). Dropping memorable chorus sounds is a plus in this case.

if you can't forgive forget (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

You know what keeps coming to mind with the mutual release date excitement discussion? "Well I learnt what 10:17 release times meant in GMT ages ago." But then I guess that is a reference only like rev and j0rdan and a few other goons will get and p4k don't write articles about

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 February 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Of all the previous Radioheads, I think the one I miss the Radiohead who would never record a guitar unless they could make it sound like something other than a guitar - a synth, a creepy alien noise, a shimmer, a screaming chainsaw noise, anything. They've moved away from this since HTTT. A lot of the guitar sounds are kind of dull on this record and it would really benefit from a bit more sonic colour.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 February 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

the wife loves it

charlie h, Saturday, 19 February 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/N4xno.gif

Moka, Saturday, 19 February 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

a bunch of weird radiohead tweets certainly makes it sound like more is coming.

akm, Saturday, 19 February 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

1st listen: not bad, but boring

giving it another try w/breakfast

ullr saves (gbx), Saturday, 19 February 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

listening... 3 tracks in - there needs to be a hook. nice stream of consciousness but the stream digs into itself and nothing else. sort of similar to 'In Raibows' in that aspect

dead flies on a chain (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 19 February 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i dig this record so far.

not as immediate or warm-sounding as in rainbows. but for as much as i loved that album, after i'd digested the hooks, i felt little need to return to it. i think this king of limbs disc will be the reverse: it will take a long time for it to sink in, but in the meantime and beyond, i'll want to keep listening to it (kind of the way i felt about OKC and Kid A, actually).

― Daniel, Esq.,

if you got to digest the hooks they aren't really there, you know what I'm saying?

dead flies on a chain (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 19 February 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

naw. some stuff's buried at first and then clear as a bell later. all sorts of things. like on oar.

your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Saturday, 19 February 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

what is oar?

dead flies on a chain (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

the greatest jamband that Rockville, MD ever produced, that's who

OH YEAAAAH! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

xp It is used to propel a canoe

van smack, Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

After three listens I'm more than happy with this -- another excellent album. Honestly the only album of theirs I don't think much of is the debut, and that's just patchy rather than bad.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

http://caughtbytheriver.net/cms/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/skip-spence-oar.jpg

sorry, think this rec has some fans on ILX so was using as shorthand
but, with anything, really; like i'd imagine a lotta new stuff, the panda bear/AC recs, etc, is a totally different first listen in terms of what sticks out and keeps you goin.

your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

paddles propel canoes fyi

gtfopocalypse (dan m), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

shuttaup you oar

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Odult Ariented Rock?

StanM, Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

http://kingofrims.com/

richard melville hell (crüt), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

This is enjoyable, but not amazing. (3x listens)

old man yells at poop first thing in the morning (pixel farmer), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

http://kingofrimjobs.com

OH YEAAAAH! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

that was supposed to point to
http://thephilter.com/oldimages/Tony_Danza.gif

OH YEAAAAH! (Z S), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

richard melville hell (crüt), Saturday, 19 February 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the album but it is certainly one of their most despairing in tone.

akm, Saturday, 19 February 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

if you got to digest the hooks they aren't really there, you know what I'm saying?

i didn't say it would take a long time for the hooks to sink in, just a long time for the album to sink in. i like a lot of albums that don't have many hooks.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 19 February 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't mean to single you out with that reply

dead flies on a chain (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 19 February 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

understood.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 19 February 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

one of their most despairing in tone.

I don't think this is true at all! I think it's their most contented-sounding - no freakouts of any kind, and the ballad moments don't feel too sullen.

Simon H., Saturday, 19 February 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

oar is better than any radiohead record by a mile

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Other than "Lotus Flower" and maybe "Little By Little," a snooze.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually finding that I'm spending less time listening to this and more time for Amnesiac, which really is not a bad album if you just sort of ignore Kid A's existence. Hail..Thief still sux.

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

those are def the two i'm enjoying most so far.

xpost

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

first half songs are some bedroom bangers

fuck wit my dinner with andre day (m bison), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

my favorite thing theyve done in 10 years 4 real

fuck wit my dinner with andre day (m bison), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

four tet is a good comparison pt i think, 'little by little' reminds me of caribou's 'andorra' too

fuck wit my dinner with andre day (m bison), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ any radiohead album being 'the most despairing in tone'

iatee, Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

tho I guess in rainbows is pretty clearly the least and that's why it's their best

iatee, Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

cant say i hear despair in any of the songs, a lil melancholy i guess in codex. 'give up the ghost' is practically sunshine against most of their back catalog tho.

fuck wit my dinner with andre day (m bison), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't wanna call this the new Kid A but it's def another "difficult" curveball following an album that had mainstream appeal (tho obv not to the same degree)

Cosmo Vitelli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I think at this point it's a stretch to call this album any sort of "curveball," unless releasing the album whose tunes and melodies are restrained to the point of non-existence counts as a curveball. This is exactly the sort of album anyone should expect from Radiohead, minus many of the things that make Radiohead great. Not that it's terrible or anything, but it feels pretty minor to me. Whoever upthread suggested that the bonus "In Rainbows" disc was better was OTM. This is fine, but it feels like a fancy small plate dish and not a fully satisfying meal.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 February 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

well it's radiohead so really nothing should be too surprising. All the elements are def them, the wails, hits, strums, etc they've just be rearranged a little more abstractly. One thing this album doesn't do is capitalize on the glowing lovey attention In Rainbows received.

it feels like a fancy small plate dish and not a fully satisfying meal.

this is true but i don't see how that's a problem.

Cosmo Vitelli, Saturday, 19 February 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i kind of actively welcome the idea of a slight radiohead album.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 February 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Thief still sux.

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take yo shirt off, twist it round yo hand, spin it like a helikl0pter (San Te), Saturday, 19 February 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I like this on first listen. can tell this has the potential to be a grower, hard to assess its place on first listen, especially given how I rate most of the predecessors.

take yo shirt off, twist it round yo hand, spin it like a helikl0pter (San Te), Saturday, 19 February 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Separator is secretly a Sundays song.

Melissa W, Saturday, 19 February 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm very fond of dog latin's beery biographical run-down of the radiohead catalogue upthread. so many ppl forge long-term emotional connections to them, seems obvious they'd attract that but never seen anyone pin down what that singular quality/mix is. I don't listen to them now but opened this out of faint curiosity & residual fondness for a band that were my principal starting point w/ music & meant the world to me 14-17 but seeing all their old b-sides &c. listed made me recall what a blast it was just to follow their developments and see what they were up to, kind of like a one band scene. still feel a lot of extra-musical affection for them

ogmor, Saturday, 19 February 2011 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxHrV18HNbA

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 20 February 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

just watched the "lotus flower" video on youtube, looked over to the right, and the top suggested video was:

Demon baby in Halloween Store & my son dances to a Lotus Flower

looooool

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Sunday, 20 February 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link

that beyonce video surprisingly works. almost kinda surreal.

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Sunday, 20 February 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link

holy sweet jesus are those poewerful hips tho. oh my jesus oy8gewgewgew;ahf;aewhfio;jewfj;ewfj;lkewf

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piscesx, Sunday, 20 February 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

thom's hips don't lie

charlie h, Sunday, 20 February 2011 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

There are three awesome tracks in it and that's all. Yes, I expected more from them.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 20 February 2011 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, haven't seen that Beyonce video since it was released. kinda better understand Kanye's VMA fiasco now.

this album is mostly dull just like the last one. don't feel like they're really worth the attention anymore.

circa1916, Sunday, 20 February 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Do we all agree that Feral is the worst track?

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 20 February 2011 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

No.

Melissa W, Sunday, 20 February 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

(that would be Give Up the Ghost)

Melissa W, Sunday, 20 February 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Feral is the perfect excuse for people who want to judge this record as some kind of Amnesiac leftovers. And it's not. It's a good record, it's only not great, that's it.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 20 February 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

'morning mr magpie' is the skippable one on this album for me - drifts by as a bit too radiohead-by-numbers.

matt h, Sunday, 20 February 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Separator is so groovy! Head and shoulders above the rest imo.

i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Sunday, 20 February 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure why there seems to be hate for feral. it isn't my favorite song on the disc by any means, but i like the sawing, almost cut-up sounding rhythm, and it has some of that dubstep-y vibe that's smattered thru the album. i like it, even tho it's a little slight.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

"a little slight" describes the album

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i've seen you write that upthread. i dunno; i think it's v. good, especially for hugging that dance-y/dubstep-y sound.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

The stepwise minor-scale echoey vocal melody in Feral is stuck in my head like I've heard it somewhere obvious years ago, like something jazzy from late-70s Sesame Street. Deja vu?

The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Monday, 21 February 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lotus flower sounds like the communards

Ward Fowler, Monday, 21 February 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link

only heard it once but lotus flower actually sounded dated.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 21 February 2011 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link

It's so three-days-ago...

Mark G, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Was able to listen properly last night & again after work today. It's intriguing, and I like the way it skirts dancier/more electronic stuff that's trendy these days, but I'm left pretty cold by the whole affair.

"Neat enough that I'll keep listening until it seems more interesting": too-faint praise?

Millsner, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost - i was thinking more 13-14 years ago.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 21 February 2011 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I will eventually go for the CD, but this annoyingly percussive album may be their worst ever.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 21 February 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link

After several listens it's clear that Lotus Flower is the best song, followed by Codex. Not massively keen on anything else, though nothing's actually bad.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Monday, 21 February 2011 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not finding myself tempted to go back to this very often.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 February 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not either but I did like "Seperator" a lot. It sounds like almost all of the album combine drum patterns from "15 Step" and Four Tet's "She Moves She". I like how in "Seperator" the drums at least sound human somewhat (obviously a human couldn't really play like that but at least it sounds organic). It looks like they made a conscious decision not to include anything like "Bodysnatchers" or "2+2=5" or "Knives Out", maybe in a month this will seem better to me

frogbs, Monday, 21 February 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Am I the only one who finds the drums on 'separator' and 'little by little' directly inspired by Jaki Liebezeit? The latter could very well be a song lifted from Tago Mago or Ege Bamyasi.

Moka, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Also 'bloom' and 'feral' remind me of Four Tet rather than Flying Lotus, particulary the 'everything ecstatic' album.

Moka, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

No, not the only one Moka, 'Seperator' (the best cut on this record for me) drums sound very Can-like. It's a thinner and less organic sound, but Can-y all the same.

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 21 February 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

(that would be Give Up the Ghost)

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i'm shocked! that's probably my favorite one. seems like thom yorke was digging on some bon iver, maybe?

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 21 February 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

i like "give up the ghost" and "feral" a lot, they were two that stood out the first time i listened

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 21 February 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I also hate Bon Iver.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not that keen on Little By Little, the drums are great but every other aspect of the song feels really lazy.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

^ this (xpost)

Millsner, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

(that would be Give Up the Ghost)

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i'm shocked! that's probably my favorite one. seems like thom yorke was digging on some bon iver, maybe?

― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan)

Also my favorite one. They're frequently covering Neil Young songs live so I'd pick him over Bon Iver as an influence for that one.

Moka, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Aside from the quality of the songwriting, does the terrible clipping on Give Up the Ghost bother anyone else? Terribly mastered and subsequently hard to listen to.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

who was the production team on this, by the way?

Z S, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Jam and Spoon

Mark G, Monday, 21 February 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-kjMIJWn5k

anna sui generis (suzy), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Am I the only one who finds the drums on 'separator' and 'little by little' directly inspired by Jaki Liebezeit? The latter could very well be a song lifted from Tago Mago or Ege Bamyasi.

― Moka, Monday, February 21, 2011 Bookmark

No! I said something similar the other day and then followed it up with some YouTube clips here.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

That reminds me, Ege Bamyasi is such an amazing record, it's a hell of an album to be inspired by

frogbs, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i wish i could hear how other people's ears are hearing the phrase on "little by little". i mean, i have to work hard to feel the beat in the right place until the first chorus (or whenever that upbeat guitar riff from the beginning is playing).

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I like how in "Seperator" the drums at least sound human somewhat (obviously a human couldn't really play like that..

for what it's worth, humans can definitely play like that!

Z S, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I just think of the shitty Oasis song.

Davek (davek_00), Monday, 21 February 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

trying to figure out what ed o'brien plays on this album.

Z S, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Shaky things.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm warming up to it. i like bloom, little by little, and codex, and separator is alright. the rest just kind of drift by.

"give up the ghost" is probably the weakest song. do not want

Z S, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure what phil does, either. there are live drums in a few places, i suppose, but for the most part the entire album could be a drum machine and it wouldn't be that different. same with colin - the bass could just be keyboards, there's nothing that only colin could have played.

jonny's influence i can hear all over the place. so to me, this seems more like a thom+jonny joint than a solo thom thing, or a full band thing. which is fine, it's just...a different zone than the rest of their releases.

Z S, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

This is hardly a new thing though - it's difficult to hear what half the band did on Everything In Its Right Place or Backdrifts.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, definitely, but sustained throughout the entire album.

Z S, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I couldn't get into Separator until I started hearing it as a Sundays song.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

for what it's worth, humans can definitely play like that!

I'm talking mostly about the way the drum part loops. Like you can tell the fill itself is played by a human but the way the ending and the beginning sync up so quickly is what makes it feel inhuman (to me, at least).

frogbs, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i think assuming that radiohead these days stick rigidly to their assigned live instruments in the studio is a bit of a mistake. unless they actually conduct any interviews around this album, it is going to be hard to tell who, if anyone, was dominant on this release.

matt h, Monday, 21 February 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty interesting that they're one of the only 4+ member bands I can think of who've maintained exactly the same lineup for as long as they have, all things considered.

Simon H., Monday, 21 February 2011 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

thom, thom's falsetto, thom's ego, thom's groove

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 21 February 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Melissa - re: Give Up The Ghost and mastering, I haven't noticed any clipping and just had a look at the file in Audacity - there's loads of empty space and it barely ever hits digital zero. I haven't got a paid download but rather what I was told was a copy of a paid one (refuse to pay for it now and again on CD, which I'll be buying), so it could conceivably be an unmastered copy, but I'd be astonished if it wasn't the same set of files given Radiohead's release tactic.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I just opened it up in Audacity as well and the parts that clip/distort for me definitely clip in the file. It may not be as egregious as usual in terms of flattening, but the louder bits have been amplified far too much.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Can you post a screengrab so I can judge if I've got the same file?

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i54.tinypic.com/14xp3r7.jpg

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Just listened to mine again on my better pair of headphones and I'm not noticing any clipping.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty interesting that they're one of the only 4+ member bands I can think of who've maintained exactly the same lineup for as long as they have, all things considered.

U2 is another one...hmmmmmm (hmmmmmm)

frogbs, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Same as me, pretty damn sure. Are you hearing clipping at circa 2:00, 2:45, etc?

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

The more I listen to this, the more I feel like Thom Yorke may actually be the worst thing on this record?

I love the detailed, minimal production - so QUIET, all these silences and little underdone moments, recalling yeah Villalobos, Nicolas Jaar, etc. But Thom just can't crank things back enough, can't undersing enough (or doesn't, here) - he's overdoing it, for a record this understated.

sean gramophone, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Screenshot2011-02-21at191808.png%3Ft%3D1298315964

Zoomed right in; if it's there, it's really, really minor. Maybe your ears are more sensitive than mine - I've only listened to it about 4 times so far, and only twice off a really good set of headphones, but it's not struck me.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Fucking Photobucket piece of shit.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

it doesn't seem like an overly squashed master to me (although it does sound shitty in my car; just low end and vocals, with all the detail in the middle getting wiped out).

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

It's odd that you can't hear it. At some of those peaks it distorts so much that it actually clicks at points. Tried it with different headphones, different programs, through my ipod, through a stereo, etc. Same sound every time.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

The clipping probably comes from Radiohead using an unregistered version of WinRar making the archive files they sent out.

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll listen again for it specifically circa 8pm when Em's gone out swimming.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post I think this would have been great minus York. Like, they could have released this as an instrumental EP, then released an album that fleshes out a few of the more promising sketches into stronger songs and drops them into a more compelling album.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

that waveform doesn't look clipped or squished much at all, compared to like 90% of major label pop/rock records

ciderpress, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

There are audible distortion clicks at 0:31, 3:01, and 3:15, approx.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Do we really gotta wait for the print edition to come out before we read any reviews? a bit tired of critics giving music a pass because it's a "a grower", which is def not an attribute to be ignored but not reason for giving the album a great review either.

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Um, it came out Friday with no warnings or promos. Give it some time, reviews are coming.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i hear the ones at 3:01 and 3:15 in the left channel but they're so perfectly on beat that i almost want to say its not digital clipping but someone tapping along in the studio or something. don't hear anything at 0:31

ciderpress, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

kel: did you not see the same-day reviews? often within an hour or two, basically a single listen? there are plenty of ppl out there treating this as NOT a grower if that's what yr looking for!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

3:01 and 3:14/15 it clips in the left channel, pretty much in time to the beat (perhaps why I'd not noticed). The distortion 0:31 in is on Thom's voice I think, and dealable with, for me. Tiny moments of clipping I can tolerate if the rest of the elements don't run and bleed into each other massively, which is what I really hate, but yeah, it does seem like really clumsy mastering. Pointless.

xpost.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Basically, I can't wait for a vinyl rip.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I run headphones off my iMac through a DAC and my main CD player is a Rega Apollo = basically makes digital music sound less digital.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I'm looking forward to it more because their mastering for vinyl tends to be quite different. A lot more range. I'd bet anything that the GUTG distortion won't be present on the vinyl version.

Melissa W, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

ilxor: I read the Guardian's but rly am more curious to see what "taste-makers" like p4k have to say about it. Radiohead's discography iirc is a unanimous 9.0+ thru-out. 10.0's at times. The Guardian's review doesn't really have a real opinion on it other than that, like most ops here, is a grower.

I'm not disputing the fact, I just tire of the band being able to get off by it's reputation and not the album's content absent of all else.

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Monday, 21 February 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

What, like you do with Wilco?

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

You're confusing me w/ someone else.

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Monday, 21 February 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

My apologies; I'm not around here often enough these days to keep track of who everyone is.

Anyway, a few more listens - this album REALLY sounds like Caribou and Four Tet at points, which I think is why I'm enjoying it.

http://sickmouthy.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/more-thoughts-on-the-king-of-limbs/

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Yerr there was a point in ilxor history where members were renaming themselves "kellypolaris"/"kelspolaris" and such. Can't even remember when, it seems way past the point where I orig got 51'd

hilarious choice of images w/ the blog

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Monday, 21 February 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha, thank you; one does one's best to match the image to the content...

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 21 February 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

erm haha i mean excellent, not hilarious; i just chuckled at the literal black swan for the black swan article and then realized i am a very dull human being

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Monday, 21 February 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I ran this through MP3Gain before playing it ever (I use an ipod so I have no choice) and I'm hearing the same distortion, but honestly, apart from the on-beat taps mentioned above, it just sounds like Yorke's voice track was handled horribly during recording or engineering. It doesn't have that ceiling-mash sound from which so much '00s music suffers.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 21 February 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure that the vocal distortion you guys are talking about is intentional, i don't think it's caused by mastering or ia supposed to sound super clean

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 21 February 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I assumed that to begin with tbh. This album (Ghost in particular) is clearly not meant to be highly polished. Oh and I cbf going back to this album either.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 21 February 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

MP3Gain before playing it ever (I use an ipod so I have no choice)

you can just use your volume knob when you need to.

akm, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

uh

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 21 February 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

You guys should listen to the latest Stephen Tobolowsky podcast to hear how he inspired the name of this band.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 February 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Twitter now seems to be full of people going "oh, it's really good".

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought In Rainbows was absolutely worthless but on first listen I kinda like this! go figure.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I only really like about 3 songs on IR; the first 2 and Reckoner. The rest is OK, apart from the last tune, which bores me to tears.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

One reason it's growing on me is that a lot of it's very beautiful on a pure ear-candy level. It develops the sleepy, sensual feel of In Rainbows, albeit without the hooks.

DL, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

The hooks are there, just extremely understated.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it a hook if it doesn't hook you?

DL, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

yes

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry, it's a hook if it doesn't hook you. if it doesn't hook me, then it's not a hook.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

If a hook doesn't have a fish on the end of it, it's still a hook.

Mark G, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV4xhsYvU2g&feature=related

listening to the album this way^...halfway through Magpie; liking it so far, why are people whining about this?

if music be the fuiud of love then piss off (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry I don't mean to be a jerk & write ppl itt off as whiners; I just don't get what's wrong with this album...? First side at least sounds like the band taking one of the eerie highs from Side One of Kid A and stretching it across four songs kind of...?

if music be the fuiud of love then piss off (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

One reason it's growing on me is that a lot of it's very beautiful on a pure ear-candy level. It develops the sleepy, sensual feel of In Rainbows, albeit without the hooks.

Yeah I'm hearing this too. It's just a very good sounding album, lack of songwriting besides

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

*Obama voice* let me be clear...

I do like this album, and I've listened to it repeatedly since Friday.

Buuuuut...

I think the underlying songwriting is some of radiohead's worst in a long time, but the production, the attention to detail, the "sound" of it, etc, is good enough to cover up the flaws. For example, "good morning mr. Magpie" is essentially a really polished turd. I remember hearing the early live versions of it and being disappointed with the tune itself. Well, they didn't really change the tune much, they just added a bunch of really cool production. And it comes out ok! It's not like I skip it or anything, it sounds alright.

Now, the obvious criticism of that criticism is that if you take, say, a four tet or burial or flying lotus song, and look at the underlying structure, you're not exactly going to find a song you can play around the campfire either. But those artists seem comfortable with working with loops, whereas radiohead understandably sounds like the residue of their more guitar oriented albums still hasn't worn off. Something just sounds a little off.

Z S, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

None of that makes sense, sorry. Still struggling with what I think if this new one tbh

Z S, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

just say 3/5

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

3/5 never forget

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I know what your saying I think; this is the first album where the songs seem to be in thrall to the atmostpherics and production tricks and not the other way round. At their best Radiohead are spectacular and very original songwriters, and it's pity that this huge asset has barely been employed on King of Limbs.

xxpost

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I see all that and raise you the fact that I now think their arranging / production skills are almost on a par with their influences / electronic peers, and that I, for one, am ore interested in that side of things than their songwriting.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not arguing that all that stuff isn't beautifully done on the record, it's just that I come to a Radiohead album expecting something more song-based. That's not necessarily the album's problem, it's mine. To me they're at their best when they combine these two aspects of their craft (such as on Kid A and In Rainbows).

All of which is why, that while there's absolutely nothing wrong with the album, I strongly suspect I will never count it among my favourites.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

still kinda sounds to me like bitching about "no guitars"

if music be the fuiud of love then piss off (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Not at all, anyone who's paid the slightest attention to what I post knows I'm no indie stan at all. Some of my favourites of theirs don't have any guitars at all (Everything in Right Place, Backdrifts, Pyramid Song). This is a different point.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Bloom actually kind of reminds me of Everything in its Right Place...I don't understand in what way that song is "well-written" and Bloom is not...

if music be the fuiud of love then piss off (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think it's a slight to say that 'everything in its right place' is catchier, if only because the main keyboard riff is very precise and gets repeated throughout pretty much the whole song.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I know why it was hyped for pre-order.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Because they are a pretty well known band? Because the last one was too?

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

n1ts\/h article was rad

ofwgktaxlrmde (cozen), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I've only listened to this once, but my initial impression was that everything sounded disappointingly familiar.

Darin, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Hasn't everything post-Amnesiac?

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Where's Nitsuh's article?

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link

That's a typically great piece.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I see all that and raise you the fact that I now think their arranging / production skills are almost on a par with their influences / electronic peers

Bloom aside, I still think the exact opposite of this.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not saying they sound 'new', in fact far from it. But I think there's a litheness and flexibility that was missing before from their more overtly electronic / rhythm based stuff.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd agree with that.

More on the production: The marvellously detailed sounds and arrangements they've assembled here are a treat, but every time I'm drawn into the record, I feel let down by the flat, immutable percussion on some songs. Interesting rhythms, but nothing grooves (wrong word, perhaps) like their supposed influences do. I'm curious what drove that particular stylistic choice.

Millsner, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

but nothing grooves (wrong word, perhaps) like their supposed influences do

Apart from Lotus Flower, you're right.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Is that partly just Radiohead's perpetually hermetically sealed, disinfected aesthetic? Their sexlessness?

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i think popmatters called this album "sexy" fwiw

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe sensuous. sex has climaxes, this has none. at all.

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

so, they're saying that pop doesn't matter all that much, then?

StanM, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

It's like a Caribou album minus the banger that gets played on the radio.

Under Me Smang Tang (Doran), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

This album is an instant classic. I love every second of it. It is way WAY out there.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

really startling how many musicians have come out to explicitly mention how much they love/are enthralled by this, as opposed to radiohead fans. certainly seems to work on one level at least.

matt h, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

who is?

The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

flying lotus, for one

phantompenguin, Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

he works with thom yorke directly. on music.

not saying that lots of musicians love it, just saying. i mean, haven't checked, but assuming bjork/pj harvey/unkle/neil finn love it too

Z S, Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i think other songs have grooves in them... flying lotus is the most obv. but i think the first half of the record has some pretty subtle ones. i thought this album was pretty flat until i started listening to it on my headphones. all of a sudden i was like "oh there you are, colin." for most of the record they're this tightly wound, frenetic group, up until about give up the ghost and separator, where everything kind of comes apart. so i would call that a sort of climax. i also see feral as a great centrepiece because it's just so tense. like when you have something on the tip of your tongue but can quite express it.

borntohula, Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

whoops, and by flying lotus i meant lotus flower.

borntohula, Thursday, 24 February 2011 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I like this album but it's nothing huge to me...I think Codex slows the album down way too much for its own good and it never really recovers...Codex is probably a good song, but in context it just takes me out of the album entirely--the album up to this point is a bit too frail to be able to handle a drastic change of pace--and as a result I kind of don't have real opinions about the last two tracks...

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

people are really concerned about phil selway huh

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

he's a helluva guy

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link

nabisco rilly nails it in that piece

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 25 February 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Colin is totally the hero of this record. Whenever the bass enters the mix it is exquisite.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Friday, 25 February 2011 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQfP2b8ZB9I

Arghn, Friday, 25 February 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, officially sick of the meme, good job internet.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

not star wars enuff huh

r.i.p. hamilton (am0n), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

no just way too many of them

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

wasn't a great meme, but this one i did literally lol at, mostly b/c the guy actually took a bother to edit it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsS4PQ2wHmc

mamma mia pizzeroni (kelpolaris), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

but they're never funny enough to listen to from beginning to end

mamma mia pizzeroni (kelpolaris), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i listened to this once through
thought some songs had cool things going on
i'll probably never listen to it
thanks
k bye

Aerosol, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll probably never listen to it again

Aerosol, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

the yackety sax one is the only one that's made me actually lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjOUKXqm9Q

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

rly starting to like king of limbs

nakhchivan, Saturday, 26 February 2011 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link

It's growing on me, but I keep falling asleep after the first 3 songs, so the latter half is still a mystery to me.

Moodles, Saturday, 26 February 2011 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Separator is well worth listening to in isolation.

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link

^ yeah. I like "Separator" at a very high volume. There's a lot of little things going on in that song.

van smack, Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

The funniest thing about the Thom Yorke dancing meme is that I can't imagine the band/Yorke made that video without realizing how silly it was, and yet I can completely imagine they never considered it would be repurposed, let alone so quickly. One of those forest for the trees situations.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

can't imagine someone hadn't envisaged it really

i mean it's barely even repurposed

nakhchivan, Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Exactly. It's so obvious that I can imagine it totally slipping their mind! I mean, do you really think they made it and then thought, ha, can't wait to see if someone dubs in "Yakety Sax?"

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

# of dancing thom yorke meme videos i have watched: 20-25

# of times i have played the radiohead album: 0

this will change at some point (CD release?) but i'm in no great rush to hear this

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

bragging about not hearing stuff is not as interesting as you might think it is

iatee, Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

This album is growing on me too. "Little by Little" is the earworm. Still marveling at how Thom managed to rhyme "by hook or by crook" with "you're such a flirt."

scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Totally. This is an album that takes at least a whole week to sink in.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

at first i was thinking that they way in which the album was released would somehow cloud people's judgment of it, but based on the reactions i'm reading here, i don't think that's the case. surprising people with an album seems to be a tricky way to make people feel much more grateful for the material, and while that still might be the case for stans of the band, it doesn't seem to be working on everybody. i don't really care for him, but chuck klosterman's point about hearing the album for the first time on laptop speakers points out one of the weaknesses of releasing an album this way, and many other people upthread have also made it sound as though they'd be happier with a physical release.

borntohula, Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I've now caught "Lotus Flower" on the radio twice and I have to say it sounds pretty good in that context.

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

That's how I heard "Separator" as well. I had it cranked up and it sounded pretty good

van smack, Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

surprising people with an album seems to be a tricky way to make people feel much more grateful for the material,

I sent my thank-you card to Ed O'Brien, who needs it most.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

bragging about not hearing stuff is not as interesting as you might think it is

so otm

not interested in comparing it to previous Radiohead albums, just happy for new material. enjoying this quite a bit.

rockapads, Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I think this is the album of theirs that made me admit that I'm going to have to begin calling myself a fan

In the past I've felt like they're trying way too hard & less than the sum of their parts, I liked songs & I liked bootlegs of live shows but as album artists they were simply not entirely my thing. But this one and the last one, these are consistent, they got me, they're making this music thing sound effortless, except for the fact that we all know it's not

Milton Parker, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh5637fCg51qzcik8o1_500.gif

kelpolaris, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh i haven't watched any of the thom vids, not even the original, because i really didn't want that context for the song. But those bees are lololol.

Cosmo Vitelli, Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not sure why I'm not getting into this. At first I thought, maybe it's because they sounded more like a band on OKC and Kid A and Amnesiac...but my favorite tracks on those are the ones where they sound least like a band. And they sounded like a band on HTTT, which I thought was pretty dull. Is it that this record is lacking the dynamic lift-offs of, say, "Paranoid Android" or "Optimistic"? Maybe, but "Idiotheque" didn't have any such lift-offs, and I love that song. I'm confused. It seems like all the parts of a good Radiohead record are here, but they're misplaced or something.

Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, someone mentioned upthread that it's not a very dynamic album. It just sort of coasts along one plane.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

this is half stupid, but the beginning kind of kills me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zOLFOtRYk0

circa1916, Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

lol'd hard

kelpolaris, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Was immediately reminded of this all-time LOL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYMuhN7OZgM

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, I am 4.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Would have been funnier without the farts but the opening fish scene is genius.

Moka, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't really care for him, but chuck klosterman's point about hearing the album for the first time on laptop speakers points out one of the weaknesses of releasing an album this way, and many other people upthread have also made it sound as though they'd be happier with a physical release.

― borntohula, Saturday, February 26, 2011 3:07 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i am skeptical of the idea that a significantly higher percentage of people heard this album for the first time on laptop speakers than they would've if it was released (and leaked) in a more traditional fashion.

some dude, Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah seriously, i do 80% of my listening right off itunes and i've at least made the investment in a good pair of headphones. like i think any self-warranting ilxor would.

and if more ppl had heard it via cd, where would that disc have gone? their computer?

kelpolaris, Sunday, 27 February 2011 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, someone mentioned upthread that it's not a very dynamic album. It just sort of coasts along one plane.

― egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Definitely. It's such a horrible cliche, but Radiohead haven't sounded like they had something to prove since 2001. Once they got over the hump of following up OKC, the tension and sense of urgency vanished from their music.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Bullshit. I'm far from a stan but that's nonsense.

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:38 (thirteen years ago) link

^otm. Check Wolf at the Door and Myxamotosis...

And that's off the red-headed stepchild.

hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Myxamotosis (and actually, all of HTTT) always sounded to me like they were self-consciously trying (and ultimately failing) to conjure up the tension that used to be second-nature.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 27 February 2011 07:52 (thirteen years ago) link

And yet you claim that Optimistic has that in spades? Bizarre. I've always thought of that as there most dirge-like "rock" (in terms of instrumentation) tune.

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Mind you I always thought Idioteque was unbelievably stiff and dull.

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Mind you I always thought Idioteque was unbelievably stiff and dull.

Stunning.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Little By Little excites me FAR more than Idioteque.

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link

And yet you claim that Optimistic has that in spades? Bizarre. I've always thought of that as there most dirge-like "rock" (in terms of instrumentation) tune.

― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, February 27, 2011 3:01 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

I wouldn't necessarily say "in spades," but yes, it does have that tension that's missing from HTTT, In Rainbows, and the new one. For me, one of the most striking moments of "Optimistic" -- in fact, of all of Kid A -- is how it just slightly speeds up towards the end. I haven't encountered that same sense of nervous excitement on anything from their last three records.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Fucking love Optimistic.

My original point was about the lack of width in Limbs, not anything about Radiohead giving up. In Rainbows is loads dynamic.

Fannypack's "Camel Toe" (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Go and listen to Bodysnatchers again.

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Also There There does tension way better than Optimistic.

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:32 (thirteen years ago) link

IR is the one I've listened to the least, and should probably revisit/revise my opinion on. And for the record, I don't think they've "given up" -- nothing would be easier for them at this point than to do a tour playing all of OKC. I don't think they're phoning it in; I just don't think they're grappling with what they used to grapple with, and nothing's taken the place of whatever that was.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The Can comparisons apply for sure, but surprised no one's mentioned Laika. I'm totally digging how it reminds me of early Laika.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 27 February 2011 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Laika was super ahead of its time, but oddly enough hasn't aged as well as I expected it to. Those first two albums are ace, though, and Margaret has become a reliable ringer for hire for PJ Harvey and Wire. What happened to Guy Fixsen? That dude could produce. He'd actually make an awesome Radiohead producer, I bet. (Huh, it looks like Fixsen was tour managing St. Vincent for a while, go figure.)

To tell you the truth, original/initial disappointment in "Hail to the Thief" (and a weak local supporting tour date - Alpine Valley, boo! - that was a far, far cry from Radiohead's historic 2001 concert in the park here) means that it's the Radiohead album that surprises me the most. It's like I never fully digested it, so while it doesn't work super-well as an album, on a random song by song basis it gets the job done.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 February 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Fixen produced a Piano Magic album a couple of years ago (Part Monster) but I have no idea what he's done since or what he'd even done just before that.

akm, Sunday, 27 February 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Produced the excellent Lonelady album last year as well

zappi, Sunday, 27 February 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

HTTT has some great ideas but it's not very cohesive. The band sounds sort of rushed and knackered. It's weird for me as a Radiohead album because they normally take their time to explore the aesthetic and idealism behind their albums and HTTT is all over the place... its songs sound much better when they're isolated and out of context. King of Limbs has sort of the opposite problem... it's very cohesive but it doesn't pack too much on the ideas.

Moka, Sunday, 27 February 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5evJglpnjpM

^^ the Sesame Street song Feral reminds me of, proto-hauntology animation from the early 70s called Bus Stop.

The Amy Misto Family Knife (Plasmon), Sunday, 27 February 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

HTTT has some great ideas but it's not very cohesive. The band sounds sort of rushed and knackered

This is the exact opposite of how I feel about HTTT. I think it move pretty effortlessly from one song to the next, building upon moods and emotions all the way through with a strong sense of ebb and flow. It's one of the few albums I own where I listen to it front to back 95% of the times I play it.

DJP, Sunday, 27 February 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, someone mentioned upthread that it's not a very dynamic album. It just sort of coasts along one plane.

― egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac)

Can - Future Days is a great example of this being done well (imo). This is my favorite Can album.

Radiohead - TKOL is a mehh example of this being done well (imo) - I don't care about how good the instrumentation is, I don't care about the variations in construction around the baseline (although it's better that there is variations than not), and I don't care for the high notes that Thom hits (they don't suck me in like the "lift-off" vocals in 'Idiotheque').

So I’m listening to this album again and I’m looking for that song that I mentioned that I liked. I listened to the youtube for ‘Vegetable’ upthread and I just assumed that was one of the songs off the new album (I have not heard Pablo Honey yet). I’m kind of disappointed that ‘Vegetable’ wasn’t on the new album because I would strongly approve of them jumping back in that direction. Now I’m going to have to listen to Pablo Honey.

The King of Limbs would be better if they condensed every song to 2-3 minutes and threw in another 8 small songs (imo).

CaptainLorax, Sunday, 27 February 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

HTTT has some great ideas but it's not very cohesive. The band sounds sort of rushed and knackered

I agree that it wasn't cohesive in that it is like "kind of great song, could skip next, great song, could skip next, king of great song, could skip next". There is an overall style to this album that many of the songs follow but some of the songs just don't fit this style.

Overall, I think HTTT is more cohesive than not.

CaptainLorax, Sunday, 27 February 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

xp to myself

actually they should just through in more songs because there is EPs as long as this LP (38 minutes)

CaptainLorax, Sunday, 27 February 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

on my 7th listening... whatever's supposed to be kicking in isn't.Regarding albums being "growers" - it's true, I think there are some things that one cannot appreciate until the songs become less blurs and more studies of minute details, which one can appreciate. But I also think it's largely a mental thing, that the fact that you are willing to give something so much time yr brain cannot help but want to enjoy it.

It's all standards and environments... some kid in Afghanistan thinks kicking around a soccer ball is the funnest thing he could do all day. A kid over here would grow bored of it immediately and prefer to play a videogame. Deprive that kid of videogames and much all other amenities for a number of days (or, "repeat listenings") and eventually he'll come to appreciate that soccerball. Same application here with this album being a real bore that doesn't sink in 'til a week later. It's you believing that Radiohead couldn't possibly compose something that is not of quality, of merit, that's worth listening to even if leaving dull impressions on the 3rd, 4th, even 5th listenings.

kinda trollin here but there is a large part of me that just doesn't want to give this album any more time, and move on to potentially better music elsewhere.

kelpolaris, Sunday, 27 February 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

the only case where my opinion has changed a lot in regards to "growers" is when the grower of an album is of entirely different stlye/genre than what I'm familiar with... I don't feel like I'm hearing anything incredibly new with this radiohead album

CaptainLorax, Sunday, 27 February 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda trollin here but there is a large part of me that just doesn't want to give this album any more time, and move on to potentially better music elsewhere.

That's about how I feel, but I can see myself coming back to it -- I wasn't too keen on /\/\/\Y/\, but revisited it a month later and it all fell into place. I also want to listen to older Radiohead, to better pinpoint why this isn't sinking in (it's not them, it's me).

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 27 February 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ OTM. Nothing new here. And it's quite a dull album actually. And that's coming from someone who likes hearing it, or at least doesn't mind hearing it. It seems like a certain amount of reviews used the "It's a grower"-argument, while what they actually mean is "It's not a grower - but hey it's Radiohead, it sounds half decent, we can't just slag it off, so it must be a grower!".

This isn't a grower at all. It won't advance from what it is now to something sublime in the coming time, there's no deeper layer waiting to be unveiled. More than anything, this just is what it is.

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 February 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

xp to Cpt. Lorax

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 February 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

The only song on here I really, really value and enjoy is 'Separator'. It is the only composition that seems daring, seems a leap forward. The rest of the songs could've been b-sides to songs of the last three albums. If only they put Seperator up front and took it from there. It's the Can-like drums, the 'Tourist'-like breeziness and lush sounds, kosmische almost, that I really wished they would've elaborated on.

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 February 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Lotus Flower still wins it for me, a really seductive melody. Morning Mr Magpie is growing on me as well.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Sunday, 27 February 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

any interviews worth reading about the album? i can't possibly think the band is very proud of it. not at least compared to albums in which they clearly had the right to be (kid a, mostly... i guess they kind of had that same vibe of self-importance w/ amnesiac/ httt tho)

kelpolaris, Sunday, 27 February 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Liam Gallagher weighs in (link):

I heard that fucking Radiohead record and I just go, 'What?!' I like to think that what we do, we do fucking well. Them writing a song about a fucking tree? Give me a fucking break! A thousand year old tree? Go fuck yourself! You’d have thought he’d have written a song about a modern tree or one that was planted last week. You know what I mean?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

have they given any interviews about this album yet? i feel like if any of them talked to any reporter at length i would've heard about it by now.

Rovi Wade (some dude), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

does Liam read ILE?

But it couldn’t have gone on the front of the head, could it? I’d rather go grey than fucking bald and I’m not going to be dyeing it if it does go grey.

corey, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

this album is good "work music"

gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, that sesame street jam is great.

i can't possibly think the band is very proud of it. not at least compared to albums in which they clearly had the right to be

oh come on

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i think non-musicians tend to have a really warped and strange view of how 'proud' musicians are or should be of their own music and whether that has any actual reflection on the music

Rovi Wade (some dude), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I think a band with as much quality control as Radiohead would break up before they released an album they "weren't proud of"

corey, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Relistened yesterday, still think it's great. Very easy album to love. (All their albums are easy to love, I find. I know I've gone on about it this elsewhere but I think the number one judgment about Radiohead I've never been able to get to grips with is that they make 'cold' music. It always feels very enveloping.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

not to like put myself on the level of a "real musician" or artist or whatevs

but i have recorded and released 4 albums w/2 different bands, and basically i can hardly ever listen to any of them, all i hear is flaws, etc

you get to a stage sometime during mixing where you're like god this is GREAT omg, then by time it comes out you've already got regret creeping in and it seems like it doesn't sound like how you imagined it sounds...then you blame whoever mastered it and move on w/yr life

gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe you have a lower core temperature than other people (xpost)

Rovi Wade (some dude), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

haha that is pretty OTM, M@tt

goth barbershop quartet (DJP), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost -- Well I do try and be relaxed.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah lots of musicians can't stand their own stuff but i don't think that's a universal standard... i tend to actually enjoy the stuff i make when i do make music, but that's more out of me trying really hard to make stuff i'd enjoy than being totally impressed with myself or blind to its flaws or anything.

Rovi Wade (some dude), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

it's more that they have so much control over the critical mass that I think they'd like to experiment with themselves and see the result. radiohead is definitely a band that has receieved, no matter how drastically it changers it sounds, resounding applause.

cant believe i'm calling the whole album an experiment but for something so short it doesn't seem like they were very enthused/passionate about doing the thing really either. growing weary of your own work surely doesn't speak much.

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

yeah i guess stuff that's REALLY old now can kinda surprise me, like i listened to this thing from 99 that i did that i liked, because now i couldn't even play any of the parts anymore or remember the process, so it's almost this weird feeling of "who DID this?" like it seems like another person

gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

one thing i've noticed talking to a lot of musicians is that no one really likes to stay attached to their old work, even if it's what they're best known for. for one thing, it's a pretty sad life if you don't believe that your new stuff is better than your old stuff. also being a lot more experienced, comfortable with your craft, and having worked on your weak points can translate to a "i didn't know shit back then compared to now, so it couldn't have been that great" mentality.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

for me it's simply an inability to get past Yorke's voice, which is unpleasant as sound effect and conveyor of meaning.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd think any artist would feel similarly. Whenever I get compliments on past work I'm flattered but...it already happened. In some cases a hell of a long time back. And I'm just not there any more. (Matt's 'thing from 99' comment just makes me think of the 136 list I did.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I think a lot of the disconnect between how artists view their own work and how fans do starts with the fact that by the time they put a record out, it's in the artist's past but it kind of stays in the perpetual present for the listener. if they don't keep playing a song live regularly, it probably stops even existing in their head at some point.

sometimes I wonder if it's easier to be have a kind of internal sense of satisfaction as a musician that hasn't 'made it' than one that has because you can believe your best days are ahead of you or that what you're working on at any given moment is the most exciting thing you've done, because there's not a huge fanbase or critical community constantly talking about how your best work was 5 or 10 years ago and they don't like the direction you've been going in the last couple albums.

Rovi Wade (some dude), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

you get to a stage sometime during mixing where you're like god this is GREAT omg, then by time it comes out you've already got regret creeping in and it seems like it doesn't sound like how you imagined it sounds...then you blame whoever mastered it and move on w/yr life

this is exactly how i feel about almost everything i write except without the mastering excuse, so i believe you.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

reminds me this dfw quote from the lipsky interview book, talking about being a grad student looking at writers who have "made it":

You suffer from a delusion that, for all the pain of your envy, there's this inverse, satisfied feeling...there's no keen, exquisite pleasure that corresponds with the keen exquisite pain of envying somebody older. Who's written something, or won some tournament, that you particularly admire.

adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

ha yeah there's a bunch of stuff in IJ about that, about the lower-ranked tennis players assuming that the higher-ranked tennis players are as happy as the lower-ranked ones are unhappy.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Favorite lotus mashup so far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0VPPJscIL4&feature=player_embedded

Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG fuckin' a

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

bullet proof (he wishes he was)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

lol I'm stealing that one

Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

baw someone already used it on youtube

Moka, Friday, 4 March 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

yup, i stole it myself !

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

in gif form

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhbagzv4zO1qa9wbfo1_500.gif

Roz, Saturday, 5 March 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

omg he's shooting justin bieber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck wit my dinner with andre day (m bison), Saturday, 5 March 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

god the future is great.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 March 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, excuse my format-illiteracy, but I was born in the post-tape/pre-CD era.... how much _____ does a 10" vinyl contain? Kinda overlooked the fact that there'll be two of them w/ the newspaper album.

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

It will probably be similar to Kid A... 2 to 3 songs per side... a waste of vinyl but looks sweet:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS74iB6cP4pPCguhu9qc8TlGPqryJRgPHlqubFCn3ccBhRK-DO2&t=1

Moka, Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks. So with all these rumors regarding Separator's last line ("It's not over yet" or something like that) (and it's obvious implication via song title).... maybe the idea of a continuation of the album doesn't have a whole lot of ground?

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

iono, i'm just hearing lots elsewhere that lotta peepz are hopeful considering the album as we have it now is so short

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

There's apparently a hidden cover on the digital version of tkol that nulls the theory that there's more than 8 tracks on the physical release:
http://radioheadthekingoflimbs.com/hidden-tkol-cd-cover/

In a recent interview Johnny said they were still recording so I'm not sure anymore that they have a definitive upcoming release anytime soon.

Moka, Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

^they seem to avoid using the word "album" tho, and instead "CD version". I'm slightly, slightly hopeful; but it's not something that'll keep me up at night.

If it hasn't been posted already, somebody digitized the album artwork into.... a song (I'm kinda O_o as well)
http://soundcloud.com/zersto/radiohead-the-king-of-limbs-1/s-FQ8Os

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

and there's just this website's existence in general:
http://www.thekingoflimbspart2.com/

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Woah. I think the Jacob is the Smoke Monster and the island is all in Hurley's imagination.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 5 March 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ radiohead fans getting to the end of the album and going "that's it? that's all? van damme!" and convincing themselves there's another record in the pipeline

Rovi Wade (some dude), Saturday, 5 March 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's another clue for you all: the walrus was Paul.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 5 March 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Suggest Ban Permalink

lol @ radiohead fans getting to the end of the album and going "that's it? that's all? van damme!" and convincing themselves there's another record in the pipeline

― Rovi Wade (some dude), Saturday, March 5, 2011 2:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I WANT TO BELIEVE

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Saturday, 5 March 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

& this partially supports the aforementioned theory
http://www.nme.com/news/radiohead/55292

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if that statement says anything other than "I'm a musician and I'm in a band and we make music"

Z S, Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't understand this whole "issue"--like, i'm sure this is not the last time radiohead will release music.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreed, but it's more the idea that this 1) even was a press release in the first place 2) implies that the band is not yet finished or in continuation of something... that make me go "hmm". I mean, the last album just dropped and they've already got more stuff in the works... this soon?

tbh i'm perfectly satisfied with the latest album, but it seems so odd they've yet to talk about it at all (aside from the format it'll be delivered in) and what made them go with this new, subtle style.

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

and just any response to the majority "wtf" opinions upon hearing this

Congratulations, you've just won a Nintendo iPod. (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 March 2011 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, to be fair, Stanley Donwood and cohorts are partially responsible for stirring the conspiracy pot.

Melissa W, Sunday, 6 March 2011 08:05 (thirteen years ago) link

all previous radiohead LP's have been a big fanfare event, with the band effectively splitting up afterwards.

since they did 'harry patch' etc, feels like the modus operandi has changed - putting stuff out in as low-key manner as possible and then carrying on. seems obvious the king of limbs was a cohesive unit they felt they wanted to put out there at this point. there's rumours of a 12" on its way, more thom and jonny solo stuff etc... this conspiracy stuff feels kind of a bit embarrassing in context?

not sure i prefer the 'new' radiohead way of doing things, but resigned to the fact thats not going to matter to them one bit.

matt h, Sunday, 6 March 2011 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't understand this whole "issue"--like, i'm sure this is not the last time radiohead will release music.

― call all destroyer, Sunday, March 6, 2011 12:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think it's more a question of whether this is the only collection of songs they're releasing for the next 2-3 years and they're just going to tour or whatever or if there's an Amnesiac or In Rainbows bonus disc-style 'other half'

Rovi Wade (some dude), Sunday, 6 March 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

A brazilian writer/musician has a theory that the newspaper album holds an alternative tracklist as it might be packaged like a "codex". Her idea was even published on a well known music site here and I listened to the album following her idea and, for real, it gets better. Codex is still followed by GUTG, as it works perfectly on the album, but the changed sequences works very well.

It would be:

1) “Lotus Flower”
2) “Feral”
3) “Little By Little”
4) “Codex”
5) “Give Up the Ghost”
6) “Morning Mr Magpie”
7) “Bloom”
8) “Separator”

She even made a graphic to explain it better. Take a look:

http://www.oesquema.com.br/trabalhosujo/2011/02/28/the-king-of-limbs-newspaper-album-ou-codex.htm#comment-21810

Moka, Sunday, 6 March 2011 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

^totally recommend Google Chrome for that site, it translated it near perfectly

Crouching Seward, Hidden Raggett (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 March 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

On headphones, two weeks later...this is really very good :)

acoleuthic, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Tried listening to the alternate track listing as listed above, for the hell of it. It gets off to a good start but "Give Up the Ghost" still drags the momentum and now "Bloom" does too. It's no more or less successful than the actual track list.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Yech, having just read the article itself I'm revolted. (Not by Yorke but by the author, that's some terrible writing.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

He could do x that is weird and people would still love him is used three or four times.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

That sounds great, they should get him to do a Residentadvisor podcast.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Heard "Lotus Flower" on the radio the other day, and it suddenly struck me as vaguely similar to PJ Harvey's "The Mess We're In." Which of course features Yorke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO9tA8-kbk8

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

god i can't believe i still haven't heard this yet...

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yech, having just read the article itself I'm revolted. (Not by Yorke but by the author, that's some terrible writing.)

cosign w/ Ned here

No one had a clue what to expect from the enigmatic frontman.

i havent seen a full setlist or anything for yorke's gig but uhhh anyone who's ever glanced at the Dead Air Space office charts would know *exactly* what to expect i'd imagine?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

like, in what world would a Thom Yorke dj set *NOT* include burial, jaylib, fela, modeselektor, etc. etc.?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually what Lotus Flower really reminds me of is one of Apparat's vocal tracks, both the beats and the falsetto. And there's clearly some feedback loop of influence given that Thom's repped for Moderat in the past, and Apparat included Harrowdown Hill on his recent DJ Kicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tbp0BQel4M

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

thom yorke was repping hard for bpitchcontrol circa 'hail to the thief'

maxwell's silva hamartia (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Walls >>>>>>>>>> The King of Limbs

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah there's not much doubt in my head that Apparat could make a better Thom Yorke electronic record than Yorke himself can, but that's beside the point.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

ilxor finally heard kol!

congrats

maxwell's silva hamartia (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

admittedly wasn't paying much attention, just gave it a background listen on that 30-something min. youtube video

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

naturlich!

maxwell's silva hamartia (nakhchivan), Thursday, 10 March 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the first Radiohead album I have ever listened to in its entirety.

maybe because it's so short lol

garage rock is usually very land-based (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 March 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

in rainbows was pretty short too and much better

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Friday, 11 March 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I finally heard it! It's okay, more like a collection of b-sides though, not in an awful way.

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Saturday, 12 March 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Give up the ghost is def the jewel in the crown so far though...

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Saturday, 12 March 2011 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

this album is actually good, the problem is that you expect so much more. favorite, so far, is "Little By Little."

what i'm hoping now is, if they want to go in this direction, then release one of these things once a year. have 10 mini-albums for the next ten years.

will In Rainbows be the last classic album from Radiohead?

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Sunday, 20 March 2011 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i wore this out the first week and now kind of forgot about it. i should return to it, I suppose.

akm, Sunday, 20 March 2011 07:03 (thirteen years ago) link

'the universal sigh' sounds like a radiohead parody

(maybe it's meant to be?)

iatee, Thursday, 24 March 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.theuniversalsigh.com/

iatee, Thursday, 24 March 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

So, who got a copy of the newspaper?

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 28 March 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

this is happening in Toronto tomorrow. am going to see if i can snag one.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 March 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/wp-content/media/2011/03/radiohead.jpg

BIG ISSUE LAST ONE

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 28 March 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

looks like they are in different languages depending on where you get your copy, the ones in Vienna were in German

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 28 March 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Record Store Day single The Butcher/Super Collider (2,000 copies), April 16th

http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/03/radiohead-beastie-boys-beck-jonsi-ready-record-store-day-releases/

StanM, Monday, 28 March 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

is that Michael Cera next to the wino?

corey, Monday, 28 March 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

just released 24big FLAC for all the people who spent £10 on it as .wav/.mp3 and now want to spent another £10 on a slightly better format....

Can't see that pissing off any fans out there.....

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

24bit, but it kinda works as 24big files....

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I like this a lot more than I liked In Rainbows

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

hey this is pretty great! #waitedforphysicalrelease

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link

TMI

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

a reach, but i'll give it to ya

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

TMI

your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

(yeah, I resisted that one)

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

lol glad someone took it

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

TMI

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Vinyl has made Give Up the Ghost semi-listenable.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

'Give Up the Ghost' is still one of my favorites in here... has the same sort of 'pastoral'(?) feel of '4 minute warning'.

Moka, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT2pkjPs_6s

Actually could have fitted pretty good in KoL instead of being reduced to b-side material.

Moka, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

just read "KoL" as "Kings of Leon" -- as in, Radiohead wrote a song that could've fitted in Kings of Leon's arsenal instead of being reduced to a Radiohead b-side.

hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

ewww

sarcasdick (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

just read "KoL" as "Kings of Leon" -- as in, Radiohead wrote a song that could've fitted in Kings of Leon's arsenal instead of being reduced to a Radiohead b-side.

― hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor)

We could say that about 'Bangers and Mash' actually.

Moka, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Kings of Leon would never have written Bangers & Mash (terrible as that song is).

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i think i like these record store day tracks better than anything on the record.

adult music person (Jordan), Saturday, 16 April 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

'the butcher' plays some rhythm games similar to 'little by little' but i think it works a lot better here...neither the kick nor the bass hit on the downbeat, so when the main beat finally drops in the middle it feels like everything flips around/snaps into place (but in a much more satisfying way than 'lxl').

adult music person (Jordan), Saturday, 16 April 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

The Butcher should have been on the album.

Melissa W, Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm, I think Supercollider (7:02) must be the longest Radiohead song? paging LJ

Z S, Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

And the longest for no reason!

Melissa W, Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm just now listening. was not a fan of Supercollider in its live incarnations so..

Z S, Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not good.

Melissa W, Saturday, 16 April 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Not getting into the album at all.

djh, Saturday, 16 April 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Yup longest Supercollider must be the longest Radiohead song yet, and doesn't go anywhere. Nobody was expecting "paranoid android 2" at this point but still... even Faust Arp seemed more dynamic and that one was 2 minutes long.

Moka, Sunday, 17 April 2011 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link

oops typed "longest" twice by mistake.

Moka, Sunday, 17 April 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Are people aware that if they've paid for the newspaper album or digital album, they can download Supercollider & The Butcher for free from the King of Limbs website? Because I wasn't til just now.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 08:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Apparently those downloads are only 128kb? There are 320kb ones very easily findable...

lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link

They've been upgraded to 320kb apparently. If you've bought the digital album you can download wavs.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 08:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Supercollider is quite nice, not feeling the Butcher at all really. Where all these tracks fall down (and Little By Little for that matter) is a lack of force in either the beats or the bass (or both). I'm not suggesting they suddenly turn into Ill Blu or something but the music they're influenced by would never be built on such a brittle skeleton, and the end result is kind of anaemic.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the opposite... the beats and bass are pretty much the only thing holding most of the songs together. The problem is that it's all backbone and not enough muscle/flesh.

Moka, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:02 (thirteen years ago) link

It doesn't help that Thom is often at his worse over that sort of beat, he doesn't quite seem to know what to do with his voice.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I only see Melissa W in Radiohead threads

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link

and Mad Men threads.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Your observational skills are lacking.

Melissa W, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Supercollider is quite nice, not feeling the Butcher at all really

same here

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Is Supercollider a cover of the Fountains Of Wayne Song that closely resembles 'Shoulder'-era Oasis?

*fingers crossed*

Beggar On A Beach Of Shite. (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Just got the email this morning notifying me that I could download these. I think its pretty cool for them to throw these out there for people that have paid for is, especially those of us that paid for the big box and are still waiting.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I bought TKOL and got the "thank you" email, followed the link and it wanted to charge me £6.00 for the songs. Like fuck.

it always seems to have dick smith in it (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

"The Butcher" is amazing.

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

after about a dozen listenings, i have a newfound appreciation for this album... that still doesn't warrant anything beyond this being my least favorite of their work.

but i still rather dig the subtleties, like the "blooming" of the guitars on... er, that last song... and percussion that really carries itself like no other album before it. sorta.

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

So, anybody got their newspaper album yet? Mine turned up about 10 minutes ago:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5149/5662132024_f4630d4bcb_o.jpg
Image0004 by nathanwoolls, on Flickr

nate woolls, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

you should post more pics! esp. of what being a "newspaper album" entails and maybe some snippets of those 650pieces of artwork

(because i cannot be bothered to buy this album)

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

Will do. The 650 pieces of artwork looks like a sheet of blotter acid.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i'm assunming that's it muting thru the partially transparent lettering and am not making a stretch when i say that it looks like christmas wrapping paper

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

but thank you! (in advanced)

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

HP Lovecraft, that I didn't expect.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

didn't know bob ludwig mastered it

adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

I kinda hope mine doesn't get delivered today since its pouring outside and it will likely be sitting in the rain for hours.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

The plastic bag it's sealed in seems like it would be pretty water resistant.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

Oh good.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

New Track "Staircase". Live from the basement.

http://bit.ly/mJpIN7

AnotherDeadHero, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, that's really nice. I know it kind of came and went without much fuss, but I really like King of Limbs - "Codex" would be in a POX for me.

She Got the Shakes, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

That's a great song! Deeply atmospheric, it would've stood proud on KoL.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

Wasn't sure about this new one at first until the 2-minute mark - lovely.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

OMG THEY CLONED PHIL!!!!

oh wait.

He always was the best thing about that band, really.

Thom Yorke has never had a decent haircut in his life, has he?

Karen D. Tregaskin, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

Yep, it's too bad that wasn't on King of Limbs, either as an addition to the original tracklist or as a replacement for one of the weaker tracks.

Z S, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

Once I had a nightmare where my dad was much older, and his eyes showed that he had gone insane. And I sat there for what seemed like hours listening to him, coming to terms with my dad having lost his mind. For some reason that shot of Thom at the end of the clip reminded me a lot of that dream. A weird, fleeting glimpse of him at 76 years old, yelling at someone

Z S, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

Loving this song.

Melissa W, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

Weird to me how a guy who was so mind-bogglingly in-sync with the music in "Lotus Flower" keeps bouncing to a totally different beat in this.

brodieopolari.... oh fuck it (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

but as it stands, i really dig this song and kinda wanna hear more. hopefully it doesn't lose that draw that only kept king of limbs to about a one-week wonder.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

I'm so obsessed with this new song.

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

Staircase is far better than anything that was released on The King of Limbs. Maybe they're not a lost cause just yet.

Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

For a long time I thought Give Up The Ghost was the only good track here, but now I'm a bit obsessed by Little By Little. Seems a lot of the tracks on this album are based on working around a "drone track" - not a single note, but a repetition of some sort on which to stack instruments and voice over. Give Up The Ghost has that acoustic loop/chant thing all the way through, and Little By Little seems to be based on an upwards-winding riff that plays snakes and ladders with itself.

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Monday, 27 June 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link

"Little By Little" saved this album for me.

billstevejim, Monday, 27 June 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

xp

billstevejim, Monday, 27 June 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

Little By Little was my favorite from the get-go; still is.

brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 June 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

eh, new song just sounds like a non-poppy aimless trance like the rest of King of Limbs

Muttley vs. Mumbly (CaptainLorax), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

imo if their krautrock stylings went for the gusto a little more things would be more exciting

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

unless that would make them sound like a aimless trance jam band

Muttley vs. Mumbly (CaptainLorax), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

can you clarify what you mean by "trance jam band?"

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know. maybe something in the vein of sector 9

Muttley vs. Mumbly (CaptainLorax), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

but I wasn't clear. if their krautrock stylings got more gusto is could end up sounding like an "aimless trance", "jam band"

Muttley vs. Mumbly (CaptainLorax), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

I was thinking more that they should go listen to songs like Vitamin C and Hellogallo

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

lol, Hallogallo

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

Hey radiohead, have you heard of this band Can? They're German, check it out

Z S, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

They love the hell out of Can, I just think their appropriations come off a little limp. Enjoyable, but watery.

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

They've played Spoon live iirc

willem, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

Ya they played "The Thief" live in like '98 and I remember a sticker w/ a blurb by Thom Yorker on the cover of the Neu! reissues when they came out

brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

I would subscribe to the Thom Yorker in periodical form

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, the did 'The Thief' live on the Kid A tour. That's what made me pick up Tago Mago!

AnotherDeadHero, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

I think I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_teRaUbcpaM

billstevejim, Monday, 27 June 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

@Willem, Radiohead played 'Spoon'? Would watch etc

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

Radiohead's surprise show at Glastonbury
BAND'S fans are left disappointed after Thom Yorke and Co focus on latest album

RADIOHEAD started their secret gig nervously, admitting they haven't played songs from their The King Of Limbs album before.

Walking onstage THOM YORKE even bashfully said "Hello, we're called Radiohead" even though the audience, packed into the Park Stage, all knew who they were.

The band, watched by LILY ALLEN, ARCTIC MONKEYS and ELBOW, opened with Lotus Flower, Little By Little and Morning Mr Magpie from the Limbs album.

But it was older songs 15 Step and Weird Fishes from In Rainbows that got people interested.

But there was just too much self-indulgent nonsense and not enough hits.

Even Thom admitted they were the night's "budget-price U2".

He wasn't wrong.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Monday, 27 June 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah as much as they grew on me, they're still the kinds of songs that make up a specific album's atmosphere but wouldn't necessarily translate live without some serious restructuring, or something else to get the crowd excited.

billstevejim, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

BAND'S fans are left disappointed after Thom Yorke and Co focus on latest album

Is it me or is this headline mind-boggling to other people as well? A band "disappoints" because they focus on their LATEST album. Yeah whodathunkit...

Festival crowd and the slew of writers following their trail... In two years they'll finally know the words to the KoL songs and be disappointed that a majority of the songs the band play then are from yet another new album. These bands always with their new albums, when does the hurting stop eh guys?

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 June 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

In two years they'll finally know the words to the KoL songs and be disappointed that a majority of the songs the band play then are from yet another new album.

hahaha yeah sure they'll be fuckin' mouthing along to the classic anthems of 2011-era radiohead

where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Monday, 27 June 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

The main reason the crowd were disappointed was because there were far, far too many people for such a small stage with limited speaker power. Unless you were there really early it sounded like someone playing the King of Limbs from two fields away. I never thought I'd walk away from Radiohead at Glastonbury but I did after two and a half songs.

Matt DC, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha yeah sure they'll be fuckin' mouthing along to the classic anthems of 2011-era radiohead

― where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:09 AM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark

Touché ;-)

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 June 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

I can't believe those guys stopped playing "Faithless The Wonder Boy" live.. Those dudes sold out.

billstevejim, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

Thing is, those secret gigs are usually for bands to road-test material they haven't played live before. The following day Orbital played virtually an entire album's worth of new material on another stage, in what was trailered as a DJ set but turned out to be live. The exception was Pulp for pretty obvious reasons. It was pretty obvious they went for mostly KoL material.

Matt DC, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

I'll say. And I hate it when both crowd and press at a festival are of that particular sour-grapes viewpoint that the band they saw didn't play enough hits.

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 June 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

There are people who would be annoyed if they played mostly new material at one of their headlining shows, I would bet. Crowds really do expect bands to just go on playing familiar, chart-topping material forever. It's more pronounced among people who are in their 30s-50s who assume that their favorite band from when they were 20 are going to play their runaway hits from the first few records every show, but any band that has had some mainstream popularity runs into this issue.

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

One thing I especially enjoyed last night from Peter Murphy's show was that he didn't play "Cuts You Up" -- he easily could have and he played other KROQ-hit level songs but it was kinda nice he went for it and didn't include the big one.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

But that's the hilarious flip side of it, Ned -- it's so expected that now we feel happy when they DON'T go out and play the one big hit.

I'm kind of giggling now thinking about Radiohead playing all of King of Limbs, maybe a couple Can covers, and then jumping into playing Creep at the end

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

There are people who would be annoyed if they played mostly new material at one of their headlining shows, I would bet. Crowds really do expect bands to just go on playing familiar, chart-topping material forever. It's more pronounced among people who are in their 30s-50s who assume that their favorite band from when they were 20 are going to play their runaway hits from the first few records every show, but any band that has had some mainstream popularity runs into this issue.

― mh, Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:40 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yes, I fully understand this. But it doesn't make it right. And that's why I applaud bands "taking a stand" and doing what they want to do. If a certain audience like a band, they should have the decency to go into any concert of said band with an open mind. That's the trade-off no? You pay for an expensive ticket, the band provides for an entertaining evening, but on their terms. I can see why lol-festival crowd would be disappointed, because on average they care way less and just want to hear Creep and get drunk again, but saying a band is disappointing because the play songs of a *new* album is stretching it.

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 June 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, I didn't mean it made it right. If I pay for a ticket, I am expecting to hear whatever the band decides to play. If I look up information on previous dates on the same tour I may have some expectations if it's a similar venue and show format, but other than that, zilch.

mh, Monday, 27 June 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

I'll subscribe to anything a band likes to play enthusiastically - and if that's the latest material, sure, whatever. But man it'd be nice if performers realized a little more that they are, ultimately, entertainers and people are paying for these tickets. I really see no justification for the " we're not gonna do what you want, we're gonna do what we want " mentality when we, the audience, are paying.

I'm not really an advocate for the Greatest Hits mentality either... I'm not totally sure I could watch the band play Paranoid Android unenthusiastically just b/c some kid wants the footage for his iphone/facebook. I happen to like archival footage where typing in "1995 radiohead" will cue up exactly what I expect to see... having a band play it's greatest hits again and again not only demeans the rest of the catalog but also seemingly gives implication to a band that their best days are behind them.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

so really, the argument could be avoided for all current and future artists if they just played bits from their entire discog but played heavy emphasis on their latest offerings. perhaps old material as a "warm-up"?

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

imo some musicians think of themselves more as artists than entertainers and feel that if you pay to see their work, they're going to attempt to practice their art

obviously some musicians are pure entertainers, some are artists, and some straddle the line. the fun part of being economically successful is you can do more artistic endeavors -- the caveat is that part of your audience will always see you as entertainers and throw a fit

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link

So basically, kelpolaris, you're saying you're kind of fucked if you are a musical artist and you want to do new stuff and you have a ~1 hour festival set

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

if you are a musical artist and you want to do new stuff and you have a ~1 hour festival set you should probably just repeatedly play "Creep"

markers, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

oh most definitely

especially if you're a non-radiohead band

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

I saw a 2003 Radiohead set that featured 'Creep' and 'The Bends' and ey lads if that's how unenthusiastic you're going to be when playing the hits then don't bother eh.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

extended, three hour jam on i will imo

markers, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

didn't see the setlist, but radiohead generally does a good job of mixing in the new material with the older, well-known stuff. reviewer probably tripped and got a stick up his butt

Z S, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

markers otm

mh, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

Ach, how does "Radiohead unexpectedly turn up and play a set" be disappointing? Except for the "I couldn't get anywhere near" guys, which is fair enough.

I quite liked "Pop is Dead" but hey.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 09:05 (twelve years ago) link

"Jamie Oliver unexpectedly turns up and doesn't cook me any food"

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 09:06 (twelve years ago) link

xp I was at the Park gig - the field was rammed, the sound further up the hill was pitiful and the weather was crap. In that context, hitting people with a string of Kings of Limbs tunes was never going to work. Within a few songs people were leaving like someone had let off tear gas. It wasn't a bunch of drunk dimbos wanting Creep. And it's not that KOL material is new - it's that it's low-key, low-energy and relies on good sound to bring the details, so it was just the wrong set for the environment.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

I never understood the hate for Pop Is Dead. It's not a great song, but it's early Radiohead, y'know, trying to find their footing before The Bends, trying a bit of a Britpop direction, see if it works. Faithless The Wonder Boy should've been a single.

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 10:29 (twelve years ago) link

There was a TV show, Johnny Vaughan/Caitlin Moran, forget the title, and Ra were playing a bunch of songs, all boring. Then they did "Creep" at the end, and I was like "whoa!!". The only format available was on "Pop is dead" as a live version, so I bought that.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

"The first in a series of remixes on 12" vinyl will be released on Monday 4th July (or Tuesday in the US & Canada).

The series kicks off with Caribou remixing Little by Little, and a remix of Lotus Flower by Jacques Greene, both of which we we're really excited about.

Hopefully you will find the vinyl in your local independent record shop, but if not, you can buy by mailorder here from the 4th. If you don't have a record player, digital versions will be available here, here, here and here. Or you can just listen to them here:"

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/110701/caribou-jacues-greene-remixes

these are lovely!

brie on crüt (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 1 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Huh, weird thing was I was pretty sure I heard a DJ spin what sounded like a remix of said song last night on the way out of a good local spot around here -- I wonder...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 July 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cML8bGN_8U

Melissa W, Sunday, 10 July 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

woah! You and Whose Army-esque. This and "Staircase" make me wonder what they're planning on doing w/ these spare songs.

THIS IS SATIRE BTW (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

also, nice to come back to he King of Limbs with fresh ears after an extended break.

THIS IS SATIRE BTW (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

the whole performance is here in excellent quality.

THIS IS SATIRE BTW (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

The performance of Give Up the Ghost they did for this is literally the only version of it I have ever liked.

Melissa W, Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Ahh, apparently linking to a specific time doesn't work here. Just click on 10 in the menu.

Melissa W, Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

thankig u 4 the videos!!!

markers, Sunday, 10 July 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't hate king of limbs or anything but the basement show is much much better than the record?

preschoolin' life (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 July 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

Bloom sort of starts out a mess, gets transcendental toward the middle (where the horns first enter), and then ends on a bit of a mess as well

taste the rainbow...zoom zoom...if you build it, they will come (Z S), Sunday, 10 July 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

The second percussionist sure fills out the sound nicely.

THIS IS SATIRE BTW (Simon H.), Monday, 11 July 2011 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

so weird that i only found out that this thing existed today. i don't know if that says more about radiohead's diminished profile, or my diminished interest in them.

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 08:12 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know if i've ever read anything about glastonbury that want totally stupid. Festivals are horrible anyway, radiohead should do whatever they want

van ingalls wilder (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 July 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Exactly.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Saturday, 23 July 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

people really seemed to not give a shit about this record

markers, Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

I feel I'm going to end up listening to these songs or variations of them for some time, since Radiohead is back into not just commissioning remixes, but doing them for tons of songs and connecting with artists I Iike.

mh, Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

xp honestly, I think of this as a deliberately subtle & casual timestamp release (didn't they even refer to it as a "newspaper album"?) and not some Grand Statement. I also think it'll age pretty well, even if it'll never be anyone's favourite RH record.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'll have to agree there, T. -- it just settles in nicely, and has turned out to be one of many good records released this year in general. Nothing wrong with that.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I like it a hell of a lot more than I'm Rainbows

nobody cares 4 u (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 23 July 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

So the remix series has been boring as hell

Number None, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

yep

future events are now current events (Z S), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

a lot of them are better than the originals. the four tet one is great.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

the Caribou one is good, but I don't know if that's just because Little By Little is a very good song.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

Four Tet one is the best of a bad bunch i think. They all seem pretty half-hearted but the below par source material probably doesn't help

Number None, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

gotta repost this:

Topic: So Radiohead's going to have the top album for the 90s 00s and 10s
Message: Assuming LP8 will be a typical Radiohead album

frogbs, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

TBF, even if I were a top producer I'd shirk at the idea of doing a decent KoL remix. The Caribou one is all very well, but you can tell he's struggling to do much with it.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Stephen Colbert meeting Radiohead is such a special occasion, a regular episode of "The Colbert Report" wasn't sufficient.

The Comedy Central show will air its first hour-long episode Sept. 26, when Colbert sits down with the British rock group.

Radiohead will perform four songs, featuring material off its most recent album, "The King of Limbs," as well as the recently debuted and unreleased track, "The Daily Mail." An additional song will also be performed for the online version of "The Colbert Report."

Colbert said in a statement: "I look forward to meeting the Radioheads and leveraging their anti-corporate indie cred to raise brand awareness for my sponsors."

James Mitchell, Monday, 19 September 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

"people really seemed to not give a shit about this record."

i've been briefly pondering my *current* lack of interest in radiohead. not just in the recent album but also stuff i've previously loved.

djh, Monday, 19 September 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

Burn out? I kinda feel the same way. It's not that I'm not interested, it's just that I'm not compelled to play them like I used to.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 19 September 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

...and I genuinely LIKE the new album!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 19 September 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

stephen colbert's funny

conrad, Monday, 19 September 2011 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

So, SNL tonight.

LaMonte, Saturday, 24 September 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

oh jeez... that was not their best performance, eh?.
makes me not feel so bad about not getting presale tix to roseland.
and i'm a huge fan of tkol.

Creeztophair, Sunday, 25 September 2011 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

hahahaha i remember this album

tumbl dude (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 25 September 2011 05:29 (twelve years ago) link

Phil might be the oldest Radiohead member but he looks like the healthiest in that photo.

Moka, Sunday, 25 September 2011 08:08 (twelve years ago) link

Regarding the performance I think all of them were good but thom yorke has long lost the ease on his falsetto. Every now and then he nails it but he's more often off than not.

Moka, Sunday, 25 September 2011 08:17 (twelve years ago) link

Several men that look like old lesbians in that photo tbh

Brilliant God-Man (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 25 September 2011 10:06 (twelve years ago) link

second drummer guy looks like photo-composite of existing drummer + the guy who played the farmer in babe + philip roth. also v bad haircut for heartthrob j greenwood.

thom yorke has long lost the ease on his falsetto. Every now and then he nails it but he's more often off than not.

the kind of quivering, occasional mis-fire to his falsetto is part of his thing, i think, like it makes it more sound more excitingly precarious somehow

347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Sunday, 25 September 2011 10:09 (twelve years ago) link

falsetto was getting seriously old - it's appreciated that he doesn't dote on it so much. i only imagine he justifies his not using it in the wake of coldplay/james blunt/etc

kelpolaris, Sunday, 25 September 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

falsetto was getting seriously old - it's appreciated that he doesn't dote on it so much. i only imagine he justifies his not using it in the wake of coldplay/james blunt/etc

― kelpolaris

This is actually true. In interviews circa kid a/amnesiac he stated that one of the main reasons he started doing electronical manipulations of his voice / deadpan delivery was because he didn't want his voice to start sounding like the ones on all the other britpop bands.

Moka, Sunday, 25 September 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

ah! neat. i thought i remember hearing a similar quote that more had to do w/ their de-emphasis on guitarplay in the face of so many bands (like coldplay) miming their style. i would've thought that this would've also translated to yorke not putting his falsetto on employ as Kid A sorta evidenced but by the time In Rainbows was released (with a particular song so "truly falsetto" that yorke sounds like a faraway whale) i disregarded whatever memory i might've skewed of the quote. hm, maybe it's the same one?

kelpolaris, Monday, 26 September 2011 04:27 (twelve years ago) link

Damn... I don't really remember the source or the quote.... maybe it's the same interview. I remember it was something about him having some sort of personal crisis... being very dissatisfied with the sound his own voice at the time and how 'precious' it sounded. He said the lyrical themes on 'Kid a' were very cruel and he didn't want to sing them in a straight manner, using effects on his voice allowed him to be some sort of detached, clinical messenger.

Moka, Monday, 26 September 2011 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

That said... I don't think there's anything incredibly cruel about the lyrical themes on kid a (ok computer and the bends work with far more depressing and straightforward messages) but I think it's great that he has a rationalization of the creative elements on the album and why it's supposed to sound the way it sounds.

Moka, Monday, 26 September 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

Well, when he first started doing falsetto, there weren't that many people 'influenced by Jeff Buckley', and now every damn body is...

Mark G, Monday, 26 September 2011 08:54 (twelve years ago) link

There isn't actually as much falsetto on, say, OK Computer, as there is on later Radiohead albums. In Rainbows is full of it, and there's a lot on KoL as well. I wish he'd use it less actually, his lower register (see the opening of Lucky) is fantastic. His falsetto is fine when he's swooping over the top of things but on lyrics that require a little more enunciation it's never been entirely convincing.

Matt DC, Monday, 26 September 2011 09:34 (twelve years ago) link

his lower register (see the opening of Lucky) is fantastic

That's his lower register? I guess he won't be singing "Old Man River" soon then.

Mark G, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

I think I am getting a bit fed up of Radiohead's, I dunno, vagueness? Ambiguity? It was alright for a bit and quite welcome when Thom decided his vocals would be a bit more oblique on albums like Kid A, but the band's approach on KoL really lacks tenacity and I'm left wishing they'd give me something to get my teeth into. It's not as though the lyrics on 90s Radiohead albums were bad.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

Kings of Lettice morelike..

Mark G, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:18 (twelve years ago) link

Morning Mr. Magpie and Little by Little still sound great imo

i'm hearing Bowie sing this, and it's the best single of 1985 (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 September 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

I like Little By Little and Give Up The Ghost, sure, but in the same way I like A Reminder or Melatonin.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Monday, 26 September 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

This is probably my most-played album by them (proportionally, given how long I've had it) by them.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

By them.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Are there any demos where Yorke is accompanied by any of the other members singing? I think his falsetto in unison w/ maybe something a little more throaty would be a v v interesting equation

like as if radiohead stopped w/ the progressive instrumental schtick and did something new w/ vocals. the "meep meep meep" of kid a's intro doesn't entirely count b/c they never really did that again, so far as i'm aware

kelpolaris, Monday, 26 September 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

all that talk about his voice was in a canadian interview/special about kid a. i'll try to find it now.

Creeztophair, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

here it is... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DdQWrQdIAk
it's in there somewhere.

Creeztophair, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

Well, when he first started doing falsetto, there weren't that many people 'influenced by Jeff Buckley', and now every damn body is...

― Mark G, Monday, September 26, 2011 3:54 AM (16 hours ago)

falsetto ≠ Jeff Buckley influenced

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

York was influenced by Buckley at one point though (specifically he credited his vocal on "Fake Plastic Trees" being inspired by seeing JB perform)

some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

Yorke

some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i know Yorke was (kinda) - was talkin bout everyone else

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

listened to In Rainbows today and while it has moments of great power (and while, as an album, it really does seem to have a great, thoughtful movement to it) I join with those who think Yorke's vocal contributions are favoring sonics a little too hard - very little of what he says comes through the falsetto haze. It sounds nice, but I'd like a lyrical hook or two like "I am back to save the universe" or "we hope that you choke" or even "knives out, catch the mouse"

still haven't heard King of Limbs

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

i bet people still post on atease, lmfao

i'm not a ★, somebody lied (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

I bet people still read general interest stories about popular music in periodicals without actually being interested in the bands, lol

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 03:03 (twelve years ago) link

they tore shit up on colbert!. too bad they had to cut "the national anthem" short.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 06:28 (twelve years ago) link

falsetto ≠ Jeff Buckley influenced

wasn't intimating it was.

Some radio show was playing "first not-hit singles by bands that became very famous" and whoa, that Coldplay one. The band were very good but wasn't Chris Martin Jeffing?

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 08:18 (twelve years ago) link

The only Coldplay song i can tolerate

Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link

they tore shit up on colbert!. too bad they had to cut "the national anthem" short.

― Creeztophair, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 07:28 (15 hours ago) Bookmark

this was great, huh? i heard this record when it came out & then tuned out but am looking forward to going back to it. the uhh second & third songs they played were really something.

mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

"The Daily Mail" is so great.

Turangalila, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Wow they were really good on Colbert. I didn't really like 'daily mail' and 'bloom' on record but they sound pretty good live with horns.

Moka, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

There's a studio version of The Daily Mail?

Turangalila, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

There's the "Live From The Basement" version, that's pretty much a studio take. I grabbed the audio for myself!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

I only realised how amazing National Anthem sounds the other day, after having played Kid A since it came out.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

National Anthem was the only thing I liked on Kid A at first, because it sounded like it could have been on XTRMNTR.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

I found it too brash and pompous when I first got the album. Now I think it's great - sounds like a hip hop DJ mixing marching band records at top volume.

Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

the colbert thing was weird the interview chat bits

conrad, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...
two weeks pass...

i think it'd be great if Rhead picked up a second drummer...

lone tripster syndrome (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 November 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently, I'm a "waste" member:

Dear waste member.

We have two items of Radiohead news for you today.

Firstly, Radiohead: LIVE From The Basement - on DVD & Blu-Ray

Radiohead's TV performance of The King Of Limbs is now available to order on DVD and Blu-Ray.

The programme was a live studio performance of The King of Limbs.
There are also performances of two new unreleased
Radiohead songs: The Daily Mail and Staircase.
Supercollider has also been added as a bonus track to the original programme.

Radiohead: The King Of Limbs, Live From The Basement comes in 2 formats: Blu-Ray with DVD and a DVD only, both in a 32 page hardback book with lots of nice photos and also with a download link.

Order HERE for Christmas Delivery; the download code will go live on the 19th December.

A digital only version is available on iTunes from the 19th
December. The DVD & Blu-Ray (no download) will be in
selected retail outlets towards the end of January 2012.

Secondly, Radiohead go on tour in 2012

We are happy to announce the first part of some live shows we will be doing next year, there will be more to follow, but here are the first run of dates:

February:
27thMiami, FLAmerican Airlines Arena
29thTampa, FLSt. Pete Times Forum

March:
1stAtlanta, GAPhilips Arena
3rdHouston, TXToyota Center
5thDallas, TXAmerican Airlines Center
7thAustin, TXFrank Erwin Center
9thSt. Louis, MOScottrade Center
11thKansas City, MOSprint Center
13thBroomfield, CO1st Bank Center
15thGlendale, AZJobing.com Arena

For more information on the dates and tickets please visit the Radiohead Tour Dates on the band's website.

Mark G, Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

You wasteman! I'm so over King Of Limbs it's unreal. And that remix album is largely cobblers.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

I don't really get why they decided to commission so many remixes. I mean, it's cool that some of these producers are on RADIOHEAD REMIX PROJECT because it sells some copies, but there are only a few of them that I'd replay.

Kind of a weird experiment a decade after the Kid A "we're not going to really do singles or remixes" era

mh, Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

makes sense to me...they're inspired by all these current producers when making the record, might as well let them have a shot at it, since they're really a lot better at producing electronic music than radiohead are.

i think a couple of the remixes are improvements, but they sound very remix-y for the most part. it might have been more interesting to collab with these producers during the making of the record?

this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that's something i would like to see them do

Number None, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, or possibly offering up a more limited selection of tracks to fewer producers.

mh, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

Remixes of rock bands generally suck these days. You get the impression they're just thrown up like mashups. Someone's got a track and they paste the main vocal over the top. Job done. The best ones are when they change the whole feel and vibe of the track, but I don't really hear that on kol remixes

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Thursday, 10 November 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

Remixes of rock bands generally suck these days.

Fixed.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 10 November 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

i didn't hate king of limbs or anything but the basement show is much much better than the record?

― preschoolin' life (BradNelson), Sunday, July 10, 2011

this is so otm. wish i would have done it 6 months ago, but i finally got around to watching/listening to the full performance last night and came away feeling enthusiastic about most of the King of Limbs songs, if not the way they were recorded for the album.

this will probably make very little sense, but my basic thought is that all of that bullshit you'd hear around the Kid A/Amnesiac days (they're combining rock with electronic music, warp records influenced, etc) is actually starting to come to fruition with their KoL material. they've gotten so good at emulating electronic music that they've almost entered the Uncanny Valley where it's uncomfortable to listen to (on the album, at least). KoL doesn't sound like a group of guys standing around a room jamming together, it sounds like a bunch of short keyboard-generated clips that thom and jonny arranged into songs while sitting around a computer. and while i don't know the genesis of where the various sounds/clips came from (live playing vs. softsynths), the album ends up sounding very mechanical and edited, all the rough ends sanded off, and suffers because of that imo.

the live from the basement performance, on the other hand, really impresses me for a few reasons.

in their attempts to generate the instrumentation/tones/noises from the album, they naturally can't recreate it perfectly, and as a result the uncomfortable edited sheen of the album is dialed back a bit and the band emerges out of the Uncanny Valley. it's almost like Kraftwerk in reverse. For me, Kraftwerk really becomes transcendant when their music is just off the edge of the mechanical, just a touch into the human. stuff like 3:30 into "Home Computer" when the programmed snare diverts from it's strict 2s and 4s and almost gets funky for a second. historically, radiohead are sort of coming at this from the opposite direction. they started with all live instrumentation and have veered closer and closer to the purely electronic. there are times when they really sound like programmed machines on their newer material. it's kind of thrilling to me. it's almost like the man-machine ideas that Kraftwerk were striving for but had difficulty achieving live are finally possible. i'm not trying to argue that they're the first to do it or anything, but i do think they do it exceedingly well.

but emulating electronic loops using live instruments (as opposed to just using laptops) is difficult, and radiohead can't sustain that locked in feeling for too long, and the songs benefit from the slight reveal of their humanity. sometimes the human edge emerges purposefully (like on Morning Mr. Magpie when jonny occasionally interrupts his Gang of Four looped riff to lay out some Smiths-style chord washes), other times it's a subtle change in instrumentation or mixing.

and the use of two drummers (phil + portishead guy) reinforces the slight imperfections. they're both mechanical players, locked in (you can see Clive practicing to a metronome between songs in the From the Basement footage, making sure he kicks off and locks into 135BPM or whatever it might be), but when you put them together live, it's like two fine clocks that nonetheless still phase in and out of sync with each other, kind of like how even if you perfectly align a few CDs on Zaireeka, there will still be a hint of phasing in the playback because CD players don't stay perfectly in sync with each other.

none of this makes sense or is very persuasive, so apologies for tl;dr. but i'd encourage the subset of people that are generally radiohead fans but didn't really "get" KoL to check out the From the Basement show. the album is like an airbrushed senior yearbook photo of your friend where his acne is removed from the image using photoshop, the live performance is like a candid Instagram shot of the same guy hanging out in your kitchen.

your pain is probably equal (Z S), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

oh, duh, i should have mentioned that the whole show is easily findable on youtube. just type in something like "from the basement + song", and replace "song" with one of the songs from the set:

01 Bloom
02 The Daily Mail
03 Feral
04 Little By Little
05 Codex
06 Separator
07 Lotus Flower
08 Staircase
09 Morning Mr Magpie
10 Give Up The Ghost

your pain is probably equal (Z S), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

I was wondering if I should order the DVD but it came out while I was in Cornwall - might make ut the last media purchase I make as an employed person.

I dunno tho - I always warn ppl that attempting to draw conclusions about ~how artists work in the studio~ is pretty much just fan fiction. I don't know that stuff is assembled on a laptop and looped?

I have actually been enjoying the live clips, but more as a replacement for going to some stadium show where you see 5 ants on a stage (I haven't seen them live since South Park) Actually seeing how the songs are constructed or reconstructed is quite interesting as a music geek.

That version of Give Up The Ghost is p heartbreaking - becoming my favourite on the album - also shows it as not being constructed on a laptop but on a reel to reel tape recorder with all its wonky fallibility which I love.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

If I remember correctly they had a video podcast thing a while ago that I must have subscribed to and downloaded. Was this the From the Basement videos? If so, I think they're on my home computer and I should get around to watching the whole thing sometime.

mh, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno tho - I always warn ppl that attempting to draw conclusions about ~how artists work in the studio~ is pretty much just fan fiction. I don't know that stuff is assembled on a laptop and looped?

I guess my (confusing) point is that much of KoL, particularly the first half of the album, sounds like laptop loops, regardless of whether the loops were programmed directly into the laptop or extracted from longer live takes. Whereas the live versions reveal more of the human hand behind the repetition.

your pain is probably equal (Z S), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

weird how people use "laptop" as synonymous with making electronic music. most studios run desktops, you know? i guess it's from dudes always having macs on stage.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

I could kind of see them doing some of the looping bits at the mixing desk, but as for composition, I'd guess it's more likely they'd just play with hardware looping pedals and such in the studio.

mh, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I want to echo ZS's comments re: the Basement performance vs. the studio album. It really opens up the songs, and much as I don't want to use the term, its much more organic feeling than the studio version and therefore far more compelling.

There's also a Live From The Basement version of "In Rainbows" which is also great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

So this was kinda boring, yeah? Moreso than anything else they've done; the audience polarization aspect was the most interesting bit. New single not bad though.

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link

What new single?

Moka, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago) link

Lotus Flower and Codex are the only songs I can be bothered listening to any more.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

Separator!

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

I feel it was an ok effort but the reason I didn't like it that much was because of its length. Even Ok Computer or Kid A would have felt like less important if they'd removed say the last two tracks of each, per example.

If they had released the album with Daily Mail / Staircase or Supercollider / The Butcher instead of releasing them as separate singles it would have made more of an impact on me. Since Radiohead became more 'artsy' and experimental their songs became hit or miss, so the more songs they cram in there, the better. It's all about first impressions, no? I would have rated the album an 8 instead of a 6 if Supercollider and the Daily Mail were on it. Even Staircase sounds better to me than some of the songs that did made it.

Moka, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

Give Up The Ghost! That's an amazing song. I still totally rate the last 5 songs on this album.

Though I do actually wish Staircase (but not Daily Mail which is blah) and Supercollider were on it.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link

Ok remember that a year ago I posted a link to rearrange the tracklist in accordance to the newspaper version? ( http://www.oesquema.com.br/trabalhosujo/2011/02/28/the-king-of-limbs-newspaper-album-ou-codex.htm#comment-21810 )

Well, I was thinking about using this rearranged tracklist and adding supercollider and staircase in there to make it a 10 track album. daily mail and butcher I feel like they disrupt the overall aesthetic of the album and I'm fine with leaving them as b-sides. I was also thinking of removing Feral completely and adding Staircase in there because it sounds great in between lotus flower and little by little. Without removing any of the original tracks this is what I came up with. I think it sounds fantastic. Give it a try and tell me what you think:

1) “Lotus Flower”
2) “Feral”
3) "Staircase"
4) “Little By Little”
5) “Codex”
6) “Give Up the Ghost”
7) " Supercollider"
8) “Morning Mr Magpie”
9) “Bloom”
10) “Separator”

Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:21 (twelve years ago) link

Just had a quick listen to the Basement sessions and eff me if they aren't a zillion times better than the studio album. I just don't like the majority of KOL - too many experiments that don't work, like bad IDM. Bloom is the prime example - listening on good headphones makes it sound WORSE because you can hear all the horrible production clicks and it sounds like a CD skipping (not in a good way).

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Thursday, 16 February 2012 09:59 (twelve years ago) link

The King of Limbs is by far Radiohead's best EP.

Melissa W, Thursday, 16 February 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

RONG. That's How Am I Driving.

Wow, but atease really hate this record, don't they?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 16 February 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

I only ever listen to the Basement recordings at this point. So much so that I actually ripped them myself, edited out the studio chatter, and arranged into a playlist so I can basically pretend it is the record.

Simon H., Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

ha, that's great. willing to share?

willem, Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

that sounds awesome.

tmi but (Z S), Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

love the cheapness of king of limbs, sounds homemade, like they made u a demo tape

mod flanders (m bison), Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, homemade is a good way of putting it. It sounds very organic, the accretions of time, like it grew that way, shaggy and slightly mossy.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, maybe that's ~Thom Yorke's hair~ I'm thinking of?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

The Airbag EP has some great tracks on it but the tracks don't really mesh into a nice whole. Also Palo Alto is on there, and Palo Alto shouldn't be on anything.

Melissa W, Thursday, 16 February 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Aw, I like "Palo Alto." If only for that crazy mean guitar tone.

Simon H., Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

OMG Melissa we can no longer be friends. Palo Alto is not just one of my favourite guitar tones but also contains some of my favourite Thommist lyrical images of all time - "in a beautiful bombshell I throw myself into my work!" but also the maniacal boredom with which he repeats that "I'm ok how are YOU!" line so that it almost sounds like a threat.

Also I love the artwork / packaging so so much and also the story of Thom and Stanley getting hold of an EMI marketing research questionnaire and ~customising~ it in their special way, I just love it as an object as well as the music on it.

Also Meeting In The Aisle is still my favourite RH song ever but we've been through this before.

How can you not like Palo Alto o_0

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

ya Palo Alto is p all time amazing

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

I love Meeting in the Aisle, but Palo Alto is just annoyingly sing-songy in its melody. I know it's supposed to be, but it goes too far for me to be able to enjoy actually listening to it.

Melissa W, Thursday, 16 February 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

Ok fair enough, because that is exactly what I love about it. It's got this real nursery rhyme, playground chant aspect to the melody, especially of the choruses that really highlights and brings to the foreground the repetitive and almost nonsensical aspects of ritual interrogative conversation especially in a workplace environment.

It's also one of those songs that totally sounds like he was describing when he wad talking about getting thoughtworms/earworms (obviously he didn't use thoughtworm as a phrase but he totally described a thoughtworm) and then he said words to the effect of "yeah I get them stuck in my head until I put them in a song, then they're out of my head and into YOUR head hahahahahahaha" ::maniacal Thom giggles::

Also Jesus Christ the textures on that song, did Jonny mic up a malfunctioning radiotelescope or what?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 16 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

I keep moving from city to city and I always find myself singing along Palo Alto in my first days in the place even tho I don't even have it in my ipod and I've only listened to it on the Meeting People dvd.

Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

this clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ4lMdFYOtU

Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

Did we actually had a poll for this album? I'm just looking at two banned threads and one joke poll.

Moka, Sunday, 4 August 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

Either way we should make one with the 4 b-sides included.

Moka, Sunday, 4 August 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

i never really got into this i guess

markers, Sunday, 4 August 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

good album. it feels quite a minor entry in their catalog though and I think that's because of its relatively short length. If they'd put The Daily Mail, Supercollider, etc. on it then I think it'd be seen as heftier.

arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Sunday, 4 August 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

Heft is what i go to Beethoven for - I actually rank TKOL just below Kid A, my favorite. Many of their albs are bloated where TKOL does what it sets out to, does it well and moves on not a minute too late.

recordin' mofo (rattled), Monday, 5 August 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand the hate for TKOL, the grooves that they achieve in here are excellent, they've been trying to hit this plateau for almost two decades. This is the first album where the band feel in full control of what they wanted to do, the interviews with the band sort of confirm it, they feel relaxed and happy. This might be the first RH record where Thom's interviews aren't unnecessarily cryptic.

Moka, Monday, 5 August 2013 05:32 (ten years ago) link

have i said this? live from the basement tkol > tkol

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 5 August 2013 06:40 (ten years ago) link

Serious lol at the idea of any album being improved by adding The Daily Mail to it.

Matt DC, Monday, 5 August 2013 08:51 (ten years ago) link

why not, Matt?

arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Monday, 5 August 2013 10:00 (ten years ago) link

Xxpost yeah the LFTB version is loads better

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Monday, 5 August 2013 10:43 (ten years ago) link

i'm not crazy about TKOL, i feel like "in rainbows" is the best thing they've done. when i feel like listening to radiohead i put on in rainbows. it just exudes more of warmth and accessibility that a lot of the others. despite being a radiohead stan in my college years, nowadays i feel like i almost flat out don't like ok computer, the bends, HTTT, or TKOL.

marcos, Monday, 5 August 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link

Xxpost yeah the LFTB version is loads better

Agreed. It's the version of these songs that I still reach for.

doug watson, Monday, 5 August 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

this is still a very good, very interesting album (which has a much stronger second-half).

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 1 March 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link

It's interesting and good but I still can't particularly get into it.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 1 March 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link

i went through the typical arc. loved it; began recognizing its flaws (lack of hooks, some meandering, interesting ideas that don't always yield interesting songs); returned to it a few years later and realize, again, it's damn good.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 1 March 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link

I don't remember where I read/heard this but someone somewhere said something about the title being a double reference: the obvious reference is the tree, but the secondary reference is the influence of dubstep. Considering the sound of a couple of the album's tracks ('Feral' most prominently and obviously) and the remix project that followed, this seems more than a little plausible.

I didn't read this whole topic, so sorry if someone's already mentioned this upthread.

But yes, King of Limbs is very high in my favorite Radiohead albums list. Arguably #2.

Austin, Saturday, 1 March 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link

it's one of the most interesting radiohead discs. a big, interesting left-turn.

it's been three years! when's the next disc coming out? overdue.

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 1 March 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Definitely a grower this one, the only track I'm not into at all now is Feral.

Three years to creep up on you is a hell of a slow-burner though.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 11:37 (ten years ago) link

And it's not like I didn't listen to it for two years, stuck it on one day and was like 'actually this is quite good'. They are one of my favourite bands and I have been actively trying to crack it since it came out.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 11:42 (ten years ago) link

i put it on this week for the first time in quite awhile and had the same reaction. it comes off much better without the weight of 'new radiohead album!' expectations. the second half is really lovely (codex!).

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link

the only part i'm not into (still) is the offbeat guitars on 'little by little', it just seems unnecessarily awkward.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 12:54 (ten years ago) link

Wow. I thought 22 listens was a long time to persist with something one didn't really like. Three years is... wow.

Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 12:57 (ten years ago) link

Well it's not like I hated it or anything, always thought there were nice and interesting moments. And I'd maybe listen to it once every two weeks or something.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:16 (ten years ago) link

That wasn't a sarcastic "wow" - I'm actually quite impressed with that as a listening exercise, and an example of how music can grow on you.

Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:18 (ten years ago) link

If it was pretty much any other band I probably wouldn't have bothered.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:19 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I completely understand that sentiment. That if you love everything else by an artist, except that *one* work, you would be more prepared to delve into it and figure out what made it tick.

(I still feel a bit bad about choosing not to make that effort with AMOK when it didn't click. But I also felt like that was an album I could force myself through repetition to like, but never really love.)

Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:23 (ten years ago) link

Sorry about the username synergy. Anyway...

The 4-song finale of LotusFlower-Codex-GiveUpTheGhost-Separator is on par with the best of their post-Kid A albums. In contrast, it's the first four songs of the album that sound like tossed-off B-sides. "Hail to the Thief" B-sides specifically.

There was a live guitar rendition of "Good Morning Mr. Magpie" floating around for years that was much better than the version that ended up on "King of Limbs." And several stand-alone tracks were released just before and after "King of Limbs" -- "These Are My Twisted Words," "Harry Patch (In Memory Of)," "Supercollider," "The Butcher." Should've added at least some of these to make it a complete 10- or 12-song album.

/Rant over (from a fan)

LimbsKing, Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link

I agree. Second side is great. First side is weak but wouldn't matter so much if there were 12 songs instead of eight. I wouldn't mind Feral at all on Hail to the Thief but here I was like, Really? You're devoting one-eighth of your first album in four years to this?! KoL doesn't sound bad to me, just insubstantial, incomplete. It needed one of those annoying (but ultimately correct) A&R men who says go away and write some more songs, it's not done yet.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:18 (ten years ago) link

still waiting for this to creep up on me, probably doesn't help that I skip most of the tracks when they come up

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:20 (ten years ago) link

was that guy from Friendly Furnaces actually kidding re 'Harry Patch'? i can't believe he was tbh.

In an interview with AOL's Spinner.com, Matthew Friedberger of The Fiery Furnaces criticized the song's release, saying of Radiohead: "Fuck you! You brand yourself by brazenly and arbitrarily associating yourself with things that you know people consider cool. That is bogus. That's a put-on. That's a branding technique, and Radiohead have their brand that they're popular and intelligent, so they have a song about Harry Patch." The Fiery Furnace's publicist said that Friedberger confused Harry Patch, the veteran, with Harry Partch, the microtonal composer. Indeed, in the interview Friedberger mockingly asks "Is it 48 notes to the octave?" in reference to Partch's just intonation 43-tone scale. Friedberger defended his reference to the composer as deliberate "fooling around" rather than genuine confusion. In the same statement, Friedberger says he "would have much preferred to insult Beck but he is too afraid of Scientologists"; shortly thereafter, Beck released a song about Harry Partch, which Pitchfork referred to as either "directly related to Friedberger's remarks, or just one hell of a coincidence". Radiohead did not respond to Friedberger's criticisms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Patch_(In_Memory_Of)

piscesx, Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

separator is a really lovely, appropriate way to close this disc. yes, very strong side-two on this album.

Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:23 (ten years ago) link

In contrast, it's the first four songs of the album that sound like tossed-off B-sides. "Hail to the Thief" B-sides specifically.

kind of agree with this but 'Bloom' is mysterious and great. i'm fine with 'Feral' as a cool electronic instrumental/interlude, even on a short album.

i think my main problem with the first third of the album is the way the live drums were recorded/mixed.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link

It needed one of those annoying (but ultimately correct) A&R men who says go away and write some more songs, it's not done yet.

"Where's the single?!" But yes, agree with this.

LimbsKing, Thursday, 3 April 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link

"Where's the single?" made Springsteen write Blinded by the Light, Blur write For Tomorrow and Bat for Lashes write Laura. A&R men can be dunderheads but sometimes they're like great editors, saying "This is good but it could be great. Try harder."

Imagining the look on Thom Yorke's face as I tell him this, obviously.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:02 (ten years ago) link

'give up the ghost' and 'lotus flower' totally work as singles, maybe 'codex' too.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:06 (ten years ago) link

In an interview with AOL's Spinner.com, Matthew Friedberger of The Fiery Furnaces criticized the song's release, saying of Radiohead: "Fuck you! You brand yourself by brazenly and arbitrarily associating yourself with things that you know people consider cool. That is bogus. That's a put-on. That's a branding technique, and Radiohead have their brand that they're popular and intelligent, so they have a song about Harry Patch." The Fiery Furnace's publicist said that Friedberger confused Harry Patch, the veteran, with Harry Partch, the microtonal composer. Indeed, in the interview Friedberger mockingly asks "Is it 48 notes to the octave?" in reference to Partch's just intonation 43-tone scale. Friedberger defended his reference to the composer as deliberate "fooling around" rather than genuine confusion. In the same statement, Friedberger says he "would have much preferred to insult Beck but he is too afraid of Scientologists"; shortly thereafter, Beck released a song about Harry Partch, which Pitchfork referred to as either "directly related to Friedberger's remarks, or just one hell of a coincidence". Radiohead did not respond to Friedberger's criticisms.

radiohead should have responded with "...what?"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:17 (ten years ago) link

Henry John "Harry" Patch (17 June 1898 – 25 July 2009), dubbed in his latter years "the Last Fighting Tommy," was a British supercentenarian, briefly the oldest man in Europe and the last surviving soldier known to have fought in the trenches of the First World War. Patch was, with Claude Choules and Florence Green, one of the last three surviving British veterans of the First World War and, along with Frank Buckles and John Babcock, one of the last known five veterans worldwide. At the time of his death, aged 111 years, 1 month, 1 week and 1 day, Patch was the verified third-oldest man in the world, the oldest man in Europe and the 73rd oldest man ever.

And for those who haven't heard it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2ELVsz2Yk

LimbsKing, Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link

'Bloom' is mysterious and great.

The magnificent From the Basement version is mysteriouser and greater - that's what made the song click for me.

i'm fine with 'Feral' as a cool electronic instrumental/interlude

Nothing wrong with this in theory, I just think it's a pretty weak track. If I want to listen to angular disjointed post-dubstep nonsense I'll put on Forest Swords or something.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

Always felt like Little By Little was the highlight, along with Give Up The Ghost, but yeah this album is B-sides, not that that's a bad thing cos R'Head b-sides are generally good, but it's B-sides.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link

I'm looking forward to the inevitable rarities and b-sides comp. There's shit loads to choose from.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

that's fair, although Forest Swords is like the least angular and disjointed (or post-dubsteppy) example i can think of.

xp

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

Fits the bill more than The Lighthouse Family or Aerosmith.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link

That was me being factious, sorry.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link

The first four songs made more sense live particularly Bloom and Feral.

Staircase has always been the b-side highlight in here for me, should have been added in the album.

Moka, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

Bloom is really great, I think, just texturally gorgeous. It's Morning Mr Magpie and Little By Little that feel really incomplete to me, scrawny and half-finished when they should be full of dynamics and momentum.

KoL doesn't sound bad to me, just insubstantial, incomplete. It needed one of those annoying (but ultimately correct) A&R men who says go away and write some more songs, it's not done yet.

^^^ This.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link

That guy from Fiery Furnaces is extremely douchey.

austinato (Austin), Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

yeah, if mistakenly thinking there's an extra letter in a song title sets you off on a crazy tirade you have to reassess

Bloom is awesome, and i agree that the from the basement version kind of opened it up to me. the basement version's mix and organic build makes the song title make sense.

i really wish they'd try recording with a different producer, just for kicks

Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link

They could definitely try teaming with a different producer at least for a b-side to see how it works out but Nigel is sort of like a 6th member. I don't see how they could do it without him feeling butthurt. At this point it would be like doing a Radiohead album and sending Phil home for a couple of tracks and having the Portishead drummer fill in for him instead.

Moka, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link

^would enjoy that

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

(nothing against phil but clive deamer is great)

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

Really, Staircase and Supercollider should have both been on the album, IMO.

Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:10 (ten years ago) link

Yes, Supercollider and Staircase are confusing omissions, if they had them laying around why did they left them out when the album is too short and they are amongst the best material in here? Daily Mail doesn't really fit with the overall sound and the Butcher sort of meanders. I've said it before but this is the perfect sequencing of this album for me, I have been listening to it this way in itunes for almost three years and it has made me love the thing even more.


Ok remember that a year ago I posted a link to rearrange the tracklist in accordance to the newspaper version? ( http://www.oesquema.com.br/trabalhosujo/2011/02/28/the-king-of-limbs-newspaper-album-ou-codex.htm#comment-21810 )

Well, I was thinking about using this rearranged tracklist and adding supercollider and staircase in there to make it a 10 track album. daily mail and butcher I feel like they disrupt the overall aesthetic of the album and I'm fine with leaving them as b-sides. I was also thinking of removing Feral completely and adding Staircase in there because it sounds great in between lotus flower and little by little. Without removing any of the original tracks this is what I came up with. I think it sounds fantastic. Give it a try and tell me what you think:

1) “Lotus Flower”
2) “Feral”
3) "Staircase"
4) “Little By Little”
5) “Codex”
6) “Give Up the Ghost”
7) " Supercollider"
8) “Morning Mr Magpie”
9) “Bloom”
10) “Separator”

― Moka, Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:21 AM (2 years ago)

Moka, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link

They could have edited 'Supercollider' by a minute or so, imho. But even with this modified playlist the album is 50 minutes long.

Moka, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link

This is where I always say that Supercollider really should be 18 minutes longer...

Branwell Bell, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link

Agreed that Supercollider is next level, probably better than anything on KoL. Would be totally up for their next album having loads of pulsing muted house synths.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link

Dont get me wrong I love supercollider and I'm in for an extended version, just saying if it was an actual song in the album I'd edited to make it blend better in the album context and not as a stand-alone piece. Same thing with life in a glasshouse, I prefer the extended version but I understand why they added the edited
version instead (although they also made some awful sequencing choices on that album but that's another discussion)

Moka, Friday, 4 April 2014 08:15 (ten years ago) link

That Friedberger story is amazing, it's like a real life version of one of those self-clowning oven ILX posts.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 April 2014 09:20 (ten years ago) link

'Supercollider' is one of my favourite things to come out of this era of Radiohead, definitely.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 4 April 2014 11:07 (ten years ago) link

Played around with this last night. You just have to add the stand-alone singles in the middle and it becomes a full, pretty good album:

1. Bloom
2. Morning Mr Magpie
3. Little By Little
4. Feral
5. Supercollider
6. The Butcher
7. The Daily Mail
8. Staircase
9. Lotus
10. Codex
11. Give Up the Ghost
12. Separator

Really flows well.

LimbsKing, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:43 (ten years ago) link

On Give Up The Ghost, why does Thom keep singing "Radio 1"?

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 4 April 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link

Haha. I think he's saying "Don't harm me" and "Into your arms" in the background.

Was at a jazz club in DC last year and the band played "Give Up the Ghost." Pretty interesting arrangement.

LimbsKing, Friday, 4 April 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link

i'm listening to this again for the first time in ages, and it's fair to say this album has bits that sound like a complete mess and not in a good way. The drums on the first two tracks sound like they were put in as placeholders. Even on Little By Little, which I like a lot, it sounds like the rhythm is doing something completely out of touch with the rest of the song.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 4 April 2014 23:15 (ten years ago) link

I love the drums + bass combo on this one O_O

If it were for me all radiohead albums would be this rhythm-driven... its the closest I get to a modern Can. It's the actual songs I have a problem with, the elements are there but it's too abstract at points. You can see they are mature musicians now but there's more interest in style than content. They know how to make a song sound cool and ambitious, they just need a song now.

Moka, Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:18 (ten years ago) link

the most interesting thing about "little by little" is how the rhythm is almost at odds with the rest of the song! it creates this neat, fluctuating pocket

live from the basement version of this record is probably their best record, but if i were playing god with the studio recordings i'd probably just have "staircase," "little by little," and "supercollider" followed by the second side

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link

i never got into this. and i really like ok computer, kid a, in rainbows, some of the bends and hail to the thief

markers, Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link

amnesiac has its moments

markers, Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:38 (ten years ago) link

the singles make this album way better. weird that they didn't get included.

akm, Saturday, 5 April 2014 04:24 (ten years ago) link

i would add harry patch too

akm, Saturday, 5 April 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link

I really like These Are My Twisted Words.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 5 April 2014 10:41 (ten years ago) link

Ditto - think I prefer it to almost everything on the album. Nice and muscular.

Simon H., Saturday, 5 April 2014 14:28 (ten years ago) link

Little by Little is a shoe-in for my ballot in the upcoming Radiohead poll

lolipsism (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 6 April 2014 06:56 (ten years ago) link

Think the only two from the actual album that'll make my ballot are Lotus Flower and Codex, though Supercollider and probably Staircase will be there.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Sunday, 6 April 2014 12:11 (ten years ago) link

you guys, the beat on 'little by little' isn't that weird (think of it like a dancehall beat), it's the guitar part that makes the whole thing feel out of sync. the guitar is on all upbeats, but the way it moves and the legato-ness make it feel like the downbeat. also the drums are way too quiet in the mix to hold it down, the kick is barely audible.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 7 April 2014 15:41 (ten years ago) link

It sounds like two songs playing at slightly different tempos, like if you were listening to one song and you could faintly hear your upstairs neighbor listening to a different song.

LimbsKing, Monday, 7 April 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link

It isn't the first time they try these sort of disorienting guitar parts. It reminds me of 'Go to sleep' and 'Jigsaw falling into place' but whereas I found those two songs unremarkable the percussions on 'Little by little' are all sorts of amazing. I swear it sounds like a distant relative of Tago Mago / Ege Bamyasi.

Moka, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link

idk, those have some odd-ish length phrases, but are pretty easy to feel on a bar-by-bar basis. this one is in 4/4 but i have to concentrate just to feel it the right way.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 7 April 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link

I didn't care for _In Rainbows_ or _King Of Limbs_ and found them very disappointing, but oddly, all of these songs work great for me in a live setting

Jak, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

Personalised KoL era playlist I'm digging right now:

Bloom (Live from the Basement)
The Daily Mail
Staircase
Supercollider
Morning Mr Magpie (Live From the Basement)
Lotus Flower
Codex
Give Up the Ghost
Separator

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link

i'm so glad they re-wrote 'you and whose army' with the daily mail. seriously.

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

Mine was better, chap ;)

I really hate daily mail, glad that one didn't make it. Staircase, though is one of the best songs from the whole set and it fits perfect inside the album. I can't believe they left that one out.

Moka, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

Give Up The Ghost
There's a signpost to future directions within this one, and it's not pointing where you think it is.

― Mark G

I'm now curious for what you meant with this.

Moka, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

So am I.

(was it me? Really?)

Mark G, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

guess it really isn't pointing where you think it is

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link

Ok, I have found the original message, they are one-line reviews of all the tracks.

Was I aping someone's style? Was I being funny? Or was I meaning what I said?

I don't recall anything about this album at all now.

I guess I'm going to have to hear it again, aren't I?

Mark G, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

Well, I did a one track review before you where I compared it to Neil Young, maybe that was it?

Moka, Thursday, 4 September 2014 01:44 (nine years ago) link

Noh, I'm neither way wrt Neil

Mark G, Thursday, 4 September 2014 06:21 (nine years ago) link

Man the live, martial version of "Lotus Flower" they used as set opener on the tour was maybe 10 000 times better than the album cut.

MatthewK, Thursday, 4 September 2014 11:12 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

I still don't think that this is one of Radiohead's better albums, but 'Morning Mr Magpie', 'Feral' and 'Codex' have grown on me a hell of a lot recently.

Turrican, Thursday, 15 October 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link

Separator is the standout for me. it sounds 100x more natural and looser than anything else on the album. i love the way it unfurls

1998 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, there's a great moment in 'Separator' where the high-pitched guitars kick in.

Turrican, Thursday, 15 October 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link

I really like the melody and guitars on Separator but I hate that drum loop and it's especially strange when most of the album was so focused on intricate rhythms.

ufo, Friday, 16 October 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link

TKOL might be the only over-edited rock album of the 21st century

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 16 October 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link

What about the remixes? What did we think about all of them?

austinato (Austin), Friday, 16 October 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link

We're agreed that the From The Basement version of TKOL are much better than this crumby album though, right?

export I hate most of the rhythms on this album. Like IDM gone wrong.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 16 October 2015 12:45 (eight years ago) link

I think the From The Basement version of 'Bloom' is definitely superior. I think some are better, others aren't.

Turrican, Friday, 16 October 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

I think the From The Basement version of 'Bloom' is definitely superior.

OTM. And Magpie too. Prefer the studios of Lotus Flower and Codex.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 16 October 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link

The Basement version of 'Bloom' makes the album version seem like a sick joke.

austinato (Austin), Friday, 16 October 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

While the live version of 'Morning Mr Magpie' is more guitar-heavy, thrashy and chaotic, I actually prefer the studio version because it's not. I understand that different people listen to the same things in different ways, but what I personally get from the studio version of 'Morning Mr Magpie' is that its rhythms and that funk-like guitar riff that runs throughout most of the song give the track a really uptight feel, like it captures a feeling of being uptight and on the verge of an emotional release that never happens, so it stays completely in this tightly-wound space perpetually with absolutely no catharsis that breaks the track out of that space, and I've come to realise that that is what gives the track its edge. Tension with no release. The live version, by comparison, seems to be all release and no tension.

On the other hand, 'Bloom' works better in its live incarnation for me because it does provide a feeling of release when the drums kick in during the instrumental break - suddenly the song opens up and begins to make a little bit more sense, whereas the studio version feels far more linear in that sense and, as demonstrated by the live version, doesn't quite give the track what it desperately needs.

Turrican, Friday, 16 October 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

New album very soon?

http://pitchfork.com/news/65175-radiohead-erase-internet-presence/

groovypanda, Sunday, 1 May 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

TS: 'How To Disappear Completely' vs. The Eraser

Turrican, Sunday, 1 May 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

Thread inspired me to pull out the TKOL FTB sessions audio again - just lovely.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 1 May 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

I feel like we need a Radiohead in 2016 thread, and Melissa W should start it.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 1 May 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

Radiohead's upcoming tropical house album.

warm winds and clear skies, Sunday, 1 May 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

New album very soon?

I sure hope so.

Austin, Sunday, 1 May 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

If new Radiohead material is indeed about to be released soon, I'm at least hoping for something a little bit more realised than The King of Limbs. Two of the best tracks from the period ('Staircase' and 'Supercollider') weren't even on the record, and in hindsight the live versions are often superior.

Turrican, Sunday, 1 May 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link

Staircase is such an awesome song. I'm shocked they didn't save that one for an album.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 1 May 2016 23:59 (seven years ago) link

Radiohead Erase Internet

ciderpress, Monday, 2 May 2016 00:07 (seven years ago) link

i wonder how many songs from 1997 are gonna be on this

flappy bird, Monday, 2 May 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link

xxpost:

Ideally, it should have been on The King of Limbs. Perhaps if they'd spent a couple more months on the record, both it and 'Supercollider' could have been!

Turrican, Monday, 2 May 2016 01:14 (seven years ago) link

hoping the rejected bond theme is an indicator of what to expect.

billstevejim, Monday, 2 May 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link

Indeed.

Austin, Monday, 2 May 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

I'm pretty surprised that the website didn't fade back in at dawn this morning with some new music/news. Ah well, a little more waiting yet...

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Monday, 2 May 2016 11:10 (seven years ago) link

more like "The King of Limp (Cocks)" btw

― Keepin' it Rael with Peter Gabriel (King Boy Pato), Monday, February 14, 2011 8:47 PM (5 years ago)

still the best post itt

David Goey (King Boy Pato), Monday, 2 May 2016 11:23 (seven years ago) link

It wd be p hilarious if they like created that new company and erased all their shit and then, like, released no music at all and just silently retired

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 2 May 2016 11:53 (seven years ago) link

So, they've posted a video of a bird chirping at the crack of dawn on Instagram. Guess the LP actually is called The Dawn Chorus, then.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 06:50 (seven years ago) link

It's a nice little stop-motion animated chirping bird.

Apparently the otherwise still-blank website sometimes shows the bird video too, but I'm yet to spot it.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 08:46 (seven years ago) link

The website shows the bird video on the hour and half hour - I refreshed at 10am (UK) and it was there.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 09:16 (seven years ago) link

The bird is a teaser for a 'wicker man' sort of video... 'Burn the witch' reference I guess... video will be uploaded probably in the following hours. Jacknife Design is involved https://www.instagram.com/jacknifeprints/

They had previously worked with them for the There There video.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link

I've not managed to see the rorschach blob image yet myself that's meant to appear at 20 past and 20 to the hour.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 09:34 (seven years ago) link

I caught it this time, it was actually at 42 minutes past.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 09:49 (seven years ago) link

you know, i miss test patterns too, but not _that_ much.

diana krallice (rushomancy), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 09:49 (seven years ago) link

Another new video on their website (& elsewhere presumably) with a link to WASTE.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link

There's a thing on Dead Air Space right now.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link

That sounds...different.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:23 (seven years ago) link

Is this gonna be the album where Jonny's soundtrack work finally wreaks havoc on the band cause I am SO DOWN for that

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:24 (seven years ago) link

Enjoying the Trumpton does Hammer Horror vibe.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:26 (seven years ago) link

Time for a new thread? Or maybe wait till we know what the thing is called for sure.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:28 (seven years ago) link

We never did a Radiohead ILX Precover, did we?

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:34 (seven years ago) link

We would need a tracklist for that.

Although we could just make that up.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:37 (seven years ago) link

Last time out, it was announced and released within a week.

(Previous time to that, it was basically released without warning)

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

There's a thread already, been around for years, will find it in a moment...

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:56 (seven years ago) link

I still vote for a new one.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 12:00 (seven years ago) link

(Previous time to that, it was basically released without warning)
I just looked up some old news posts and In Rainbows was announced in a post on their blog 10 days before the album's release.
King of Limbs was announced 4 days before the album's release.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 12:50 (seven years ago) link

We should expect this one to be announced ~2 days after release then

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link

So this is the complete video for Burn The Witch then I guess

https://youtu.be/yI2oS2hoL0k

nate woolls, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link

yorke's voice is good but the song itself is a little plodding

marcos, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

anyways i still play in rainbows from time to time, that album is beautiful, king of limbs eh it's okay i guess, it would've been better served with different album art, the cover is complete trash

marcos, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

Song sounds nice enough, nothing mindblowing but could be a grower. Great vid.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

KoL has a good cover! suits the music well.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

The mix seems a little flat but it could just be YT.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

I like this new song a lot

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

The strings are very Owen Pallett.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

The mix seems a little flat but it could just be YT.

his initials are TY btw

ejemplo (crüt), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

HA

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

This sounds a bit more immediate than anything off of TKOL. Bits of it remind me of Climbing Up The Walls. Although yeah, it doesn't seem to have much in the way of dynamics. The line 'low-flying panic attack' is Yorke by numbers. I love the video though. Not sure what I'd think of the song on its own.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

The strings are very Owen Pallett.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, May 3, 2016 3:27 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah

redolent of 'the riverbed' except without a proper development and 1/10 the tension

the chorus is kinda nice-ish

radiohead aren't making interesting music now

wow this sounds great, so much better than anything on IR or TKOL

flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

so much better than anything on IR

Better than All I Need? I think not.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

xpost to flappy bird: wow no

i like this though, wonder if it'll be like "lotus flower" and it'll slowly develop from sounding interesting if slight to one of my favorite radiohead songs

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

it is nowhere near as good as for example 'little by little'

The lyrics are amusingly pat, even for thom

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link

every time i revisit in rainbows i am totally surprised by how awesome everything in "bodysnatchers" is

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link

every time i visit 'in rainbows' i am totally struck by how the album goes to soft-headed rubbish after 'bodysnatchers'

i like the stop-motion video, at least!

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

lol lj

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

not that i can divine very many lyrics from this but i enjoy "this is a low-flying panic attack"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

every time i revisit in rainbows i am totally surprised by how awesome everything in "bodysnatchers" is

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:43 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

every time i visit 'in rainbows' i am totally struck by how the album goes to soft-headed rubbish after 'bodysnatchers'

― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:45 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You guys are listening to that album all wrong.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

The first two tracks on IR should have been consigned to some sort of ltd ed 7" and the rest should have been a really nice mini-album.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

really weird opinions about ir itt

"bodysnatchers" is just a great asymmetrical rock jam, every part of it is thrilling imo. imo ir and kol are radiohead becoming a better band i.e. people who respond to each other sensitively and intuitively while playing in a room. that's of course a very rockist interpretive lens but hey it's rock music. kol suffers for not being worked on enough (which is why it's suddenly amazing when you hear the live from the basement versions/the songs they released later)

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

i like the songs on IR, but i hate the dry production. sounds like a radio session. TKOL is a bit harder to crack, and actually yeah now that I remember it, I love "Little by Little" and "Morning Mr. Magpie."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link

i've never been big on later radiohead but the new song sounded pretty good to me

some dude, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

yeah IR has the benefit of feeling like they took the appropriate amount of time to craft an actual album, and the b-sides feel appropriate as b-sides

x-posts

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it sounded pretty good, I hope they've gone full orchestral on this one, it would certainly tally with what Jonny Greenwood's been doing over the last few years. Another album that bounces between guitar-bass-drums, mopey piano ballads and cod-Hyperdub would be pretty boring at this stage.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

despite a youth spent playing the bends/ok computer/kid a on repeat, in rainbows was the lasting radiohead album for me in the end

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

me too

marcos, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link

the orchestration on this is nice but it feels a bit radiohead-by-numbers otherwise? there's not really any sort of shift beyond some orchestral subtleties. it's better than the recent thom yorke solo stuff but that's not saying much.

in rainbows is really great, up with their very best. it's a culmination of their strengths. this is supposed to have been written around that time but it doesn't really compare to what made that album.

i like what they were going for with the king of limbs, there's a lot of interesting rhythmic shifts, but the songs weren't really there. bloom is quite nice though.

ufo, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

king of limbs was great mostly for the thom dancing video

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

also 'codex' is my most played radiohead song it's a powerful relaxant

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

this is cool. kinda interesting how the orchestration completely overpowers the mix at the end and the tinny drum machine beat gets completely swallowed up. i kept expecting the live drums to drop.

i can't listen to the earlier albums very often these days, but HttT/IR/KoL still have some surprises left. and Thom Yorke's solo albums sound the least dated of anything to my ears.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

i listened to the eraser last night for the first time in a while, man that thing is so great. can't believe it's been 10 years. yesterday's tomorrow's boxes or whatever did nothing for me.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

Oh for Christ's sake

fgti, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

hahahaaaa

incredible website

ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

Interesting to see the production on In Rainbows being described as "dry" when huge parts of it are soaked in reverb.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link

the drums are super dry (except for, like, the tambourine on 'Reckoner')

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

Also, I don't think The King of Limbs was a "band all playing together at the same time" record in the sense that In Rainbows was. 'Bloom', 'Morning Mr Magpie', 'Little By Little' and 'Feral' in particular sound very much like they were pieced together digitally. A lot of cutting/pasting/chopping up/digital re-stitching and massaging going on there, which is why the live versions sound completely different - they're "re-arranged" so they can played as a band.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

x-post:

They're not dry, though. If anything, the drums on stuff like 'Nude' sound very closely miked. I like that sound, though.

"Dry" to me is Metallica's ...And Justice For All.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

the king of limbs was largely pieced together from loops they made i think

ufo, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

I suppose In Rainbows would sound incredible with a cavernous Bryan Adams power ballad snare sound, though. I mean, really.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

x-post:

Yeah, it's definitely a heavily computerized record for the most part. Aside from things like 'Give Up The Ghost' and 'Codex', which sound like live takes which have then had the effects added later.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

the drums on say 'Weird Fishes' sound so home studio-y to me, very exposed and unadorned, like if i just threw up some 57s and left it at that. they used similar drum sounds on other albums/songs, but compare it to like anything on HttT where there's a much wider, more compressed, expensive-sounding snare.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

I can see why they didn't go for overkill on reverb on the drums, though. It allows for more space in the mix for reverbs elsewhere, such as on the vocals etc.

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

decent new song! it'll be interesting to hear it in the context of the rest of the album.

i am always really surprised that Separator doesn't ever get a shout out when it comes to KoL. i guess people are just kind of burned out by the end of the album (even though it's relatively short) but that song TOWERS over the rest of the album

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

I like it.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

x-post:

I love that part in 'Separator' when the high guitar part comes in. I think the studio version could have been better though - there's a great song there that I don't think they got the best out of.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

sad for the old radiohead messageboard people (i was a regular there from 2000-04ish), it looks like the board was erased along with everything else. but it's probably just temporary, and having your favorite msgboard taken away from you is probably beneficial for mental health anyway

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

Also having Radiohead taken away from you, or indeed everyone

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

darraghmorbs

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Gimme fifty years I'll be a lot worse than he is now

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Separator and Bloom are awesome. I might be one of the few Radiohead fans who loved KoL. The bass and drums throughout make the album, also the calm songs like Codex or GUTG have some beautiful harmonies and subtle details as they progress.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

super psyched the dude survived the fire btw, i was getting anxious

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

They really fucked up not adding Staircase and Supercollider as part of the album tho

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

Wow, this new song is epic.

Austin, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

This new song is making me very excited for the new album. It's that steve reich-kraut-repetitive crescendo trick they've done many times before but it sounds great with the string orchestration substituting the synths/guitars.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

'Codex' has grown into a big favourite of mine, actually... it's such a beautiful melody, and I love the piano sound on it.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

yeah 'Codex' and 'Give Up the Ghost' are actually my favorites on that. not a big fan of how the drums and percussion samples are deployed on the early tracks, so the stripped down tracks work best.

I find Tomorrow's Modern Boxes really rewarding actually. Not much in the way of hooks but I think of it more as an instrumental record, love the piano/synth/electronic percussion sound palette.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

i liked TMB, but it seemed to exemplify yorke's increasingly common practice of moaning "oooooooooooooooooohs" over things that would otherwise be instrumental. he's always done that to some degree, of course, but at this rate his 2026 solo album will just be called "ooooooooooooooooh" and will feature nearly 100 different tracks of him going "oooooooooooooooooh", lovingly layered over a backing track of him going "ooooooooooooooooooh"

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

Essence of Yorke, right there.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

lol Karl

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

song is rad

Treeship, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

i like yorke's practice of moaning "oooooooooooh"

Treeship, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

i do too, in moderation! but its presence seems to be increasing and it seems like a crutch sometimes, in place of a more detailed instrumental passage, or real lyrics, or an interesting shift to the song structure.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

I mean Sigur Ros made a career out of singing uuuuuuuu's

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

But yeah, Jonny is the real main man behind Radiohead. His arrangements have been moving the band forward since the days of OKC.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

anyway, no reason to moan about it here (ooooooooooooooh), but i'm hoping it won't be plastered all over the album

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

i wonder if they stuck with the 2-drummer setup for this one?

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

colin's great on the bass on this one, as usual

warm winds and clear skies, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Ed is the most underrated member of the band, IMO.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

no your mom is.

I do not recall a death-free day. (map), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

The strings still sound sinister, and Colin Greenwood's bass gets a cortisone injection, but because I've never cared what Thom Yorke mewls about or the mewl itself I'm dismissing it as another example of Radiohead's facile paranoia, their projecting portent into a cliché or slogan that can't support it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

idk the lyrics struck me as blunter than usual but so is humanity's death spiral in 2016.

I do not recall a death-free day. (map), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

all the more reason to stop the mewling!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

stop it with ur thom yorke witch hunt

Treeship, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

i'm glad they're doing what they do and this song is a decent version of it. i'll probably like and/or love the new album and listen to it in some kind of weird way, like exclusively for a month then never again, or strictly for running only. i'll definitely avoid talking about it on the internet or in public because of this band's tendency to bring out the most excruciatingly inane commentary from otherwise pleasant (or not) people, myself included.

I do not recall a death-free day. (map), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

Musically I rather like this but Thom Yorke is pretty much a caricature of himself vocally now. I can get past it though.

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

Never liked TKOL myself so if this better than that it's good enough for me I guess

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

slightly terrified that fgti's revulsion upthread is directed not at this song but at my comments :/ if so, sorry

everyone who took issue with my mischaracterization of tkol upthread: you're right, a lot of that album is sculpted from loops, i just sometimes confuse the better live versions for the actual album

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

never be sorry hon xp

i'm also a fan of tkol, i like how casual it sounds.

I do not recall a death-free day. (map), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

no imago! I like everything about RH except their fanbase and singer, and I think the score for The Master is the best modern score, and obv this is not a ripoff it's more like "we both enjoy The Desert Music and Cluster"

fgti, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link

Clumsy edit at 1:36 in the new song - a very audible click as the high strings cut out.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 09:07 (seven years ago) link

It's definitely a grower.

I've never cared what Thom Yorke mewls about or the mewl itself I'm dismissing it as another example of Radiohead's facile paranoia, their projecting portent into a cliché or slogan that can't support it.

I find it useful to see Radiohead lyrics as merely contributing to the atmosphere of the music rather than having any meaning or relevance outside of that, and they work just fine in that respect. But yeah, Thom's vocal style and lyrics are the aspect of the band's sound that has evolved the least over the years. He's still capable of coming up with a transcendent melody on occasion, though.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 09:08 (seven years ago) link

Also his lyrics can be good when he's being deadpan rather than portentious.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 09:15 (seven years ago) link

it's a shame that he's still banging on about 'low flying panic attacks' and such in the chorus of a decent tune.

piscesx, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 09:52 (seven years ago) link

yeah that bit stuck out like a sore thumb. sounds like it was lifted from those scrawls on the cover of OKC and comes off as self-parody.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:04 (seven years ago) link

haha you know that's exactly my problem with it! i was going to say. the excess of words/Thom lyrics all over those 4 albums from OKC to HTTT (and their text-heavy booklets) really diluted their impact. you read 'CATCH DA MOUSE!' inside the KID A sleeve and then 2 years later that's the chorus on a big single. it just can't help but seem like a paucity of imagination and ideas.

piscesx, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link

Another album that bounces between guitar-bass-drums, mopey piano ballads and cod-Hyperdub would be pretty boring at this stage.

To be fair, HttT and maaaybe Amnesiac are the only ones of their albums that could be configured like that, really.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

Hail To The Thief is the best one though

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link

Not my favourite, but I do like it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

I think my main issue with Radiohead over the years is that they're yet to make as 'solid' an album as OKC again. Each new release feels shakey, cobbled together, less of a singular 'statement' than their more traditional albums - 'experimental' in the sense that they seem to be seeking around for something that they're never quite reaching. In retrospect, Kid A does feel like a consistent album with a beginning, a middle and an end. But albums like HTTT and In Rainbows suffer from weird sequencing choices, which means that the majority of newer RH albums I hear, I tend to skip to my favourite tracks and rarely listen to as a suite.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link

IR is immaculately sequenced imo

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

You don't think In Rainbows is coherent? That's quite surprising.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link

Seconded.

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the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

Radiohead can do whatever they want as long as I never have to hear "Karma Police" again

ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

Actually I often don't bother with the last two tracks on ir as they are my least favourite ones, but the first seven are a fantastic run, perfectly ordered.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

the problem with In Rainbows is that it is dull as fuck

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

I still stand by my thoughts that IR sounds like a really good ambienty/chillouty kind of album with two heavy rock tracks stuck to the front of it. I almost always skip straight to track 3, no matter how good those two opening tracks are.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

It's a good avant-rock single with 8 tracks of nothing stuck on the end

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

you are silly.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link

although i agree with the first bit of that

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link

you are both wrong

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link

Nude is their second best song.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

"Avant-rock"

Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Wire vernacular?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

I'm listening to Burn the Witch again. I think the first go round I was concentrating too much on the video. Definitely like the orchestration on this. Wouldn't be surprised if they'd been listening to Owen's stuff, but they've never been great at hiding their influences/

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

Bodysnatchers is the heaviest track on ir, yes. But 15 Step is no heavier than Weird Fishes or Jigsaw, to my ears.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

jigsaw and videotape have always felt like the weakest 2 tracks on IR but on the whole it is immaculately sequenced and a wonderful album

marcos, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

house of cards is one of the best things they've done imo

marcos, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

i *might* allow reckoner

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

Jigsaw is lovely.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

I mean, I like p much all the tracks on IR but Bodysnatchers is an outlier and without any other tracks in that style, it throws IR out of whack.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link

"jigsaw" was my immediate favorite for that record and, when i revisited it yesterday, still is. such a groove

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

uh from that record*

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

i can never forgive jigsaw for fading out jonny's guitar solo

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

Jigsaw is one of their best songs, the last minute is bliss

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

so many great codas on IR. Thom's vocals in the last part of 'Nude' are among his all time best 'ooooooooooooh's

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

I mean, I like p much all the tracks on IR but Bodysnatchers is an outlier and without any other tracks in that style, it throws IR out of whack

I think of 'Weird Fishes/Arpeggi' as its counterpart, not as blown out but another uptempo live band-format track.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

Jigsaw is one of their best songs, the last minute is bliss

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.),

Thom's weirdly strained vocals ruin it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

I think I still resent IR because my favorite songs were relegated to the bonus disc - Down is the New Up, Last Flowers til the Hospital, Up on the Ladder, Bangers + Mash. I mean, Last Flowers til the Hospital is one of the best ballads TY ever wrote.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

I don't think there's anything wrong with the sequencing on In Rainbows, myself. It's one of Radiohead's 4 best LP's, I think.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

In Rainbows is the only Radiohead record with no weak moments. It's easily my favourite these days. Weird Fishes could well be my favourite song of theirs.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

I don't think there's anything wrong with the sequencing on In Rainbows, myself. It's one of Radiohead's 4 best LP's, I think.

It did well in the Radiohead poll a few years ago, came 3rd I think.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

i was spoiled by the bootlegs of the 2006 tour and the 2005 orchestral performance of Arpeggi. the album was a severe let down in comparison, especially Arpeggi. but my mind was filling in the blanks. dangers of keeping up with bootlegs...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

xxpost:

After OK Computer and Kid A? Makes sense.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link

Think so

nate woolls, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

Burn the witch grows on you, esp sans video

Eggs and the marketing board behind them, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

Video is cool but doesn't really match the song.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 May 2016 02:25 (seven years ago) link

at abt 1:30 in "burn the witch", the mix foregrounds the staccato horror strings. that's the best bit, and it sadly never comes round again. remix wanted.

contenderizer, Thursday, 5 May 2016 12:28 (seven years ago) link

Brian Cant > Thom Yorke. Freddie Phillips >>>>>>> Jonny Greenwood.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2016 12:37 (seven years ago) link

I've never understood the impetus to drop into a fan thread and explain how other stuff is better than the band under discussion. Is it intended to be educational? trolling? hipster power move?
Although there are other artists I like better than R'head, I sometimes deliberately listen to their music in the FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S NOT THE ALL TIME ABSOLUTE BEST. Hope yall can deal.

MatthewK, Thursday, 5 May 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I think I just set off the grenade on my own belt there. As you were.

MatthewK, Thursday, 5 May 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link

I can't think of the last time I listened to Radiohead on purpose, so I put on In Rainbows today and loved every minute. Probably my fave after Kid A and OK Computer, and in some abstract way a great "final" record/capper.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

(xp) lol, britishes reference alert

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

at abt 1:30 in "burn the witch", the mix foregrounds the staccato horror strings. that's the best bit, and it sadly never comes round again

The single seems to cut off very suddenly which suggests there's either a longer album version or the songs flow together in some ways. If it's predominantly orchestral I could see either scenario.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link

Radiohead haaaaate doing long songs, they're weird conciseness freaks

In any case Burn The Witch is like two minutes shorter than Paranoid Android so maybe it isn't a single edit, and they're highly unlikely to break the seven minute mark on anything.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

one of their best traits imo

xp

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

have they ever even *done* a single edit?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

the ending to Burn the Witch doesn't sound like a single edit at all to me. it sounds like the really predictable "build up and suddenly cut off" move that is used in many songs and pretty much every single movie trailer from the last 10 years

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

vacuum cleaner whooshing noise slowly overwhelming, swelling strings rising, sudden cutoff of everything followed by a soft bass tone and/or a muted explosive sound effect, sounds of heavy breathing, close-up of film star whispering "burn the witch", blackout, all caps "radiohead", blackout, "May 2016", brief credits, followed by instructions to put on your 3D glasses

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

yeah isn't it weird that Paranoid Android is their longest song at only six and a half minutes? Do they have a longer song?

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link

Supercollider is longer I think

nate woolls, Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

'Supercollider' is their longest song, it's over 7 minutes long.

Anyway, I'd rather bands packed in as many ideas as possible into a three minute long track than stretched them out over 20 minutes. Credit to Radiohead for realising how long their songs need to be.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

Who here hasn't fantasised about a 15-minute Radiothon

Credit to Radiohead for realising how long their songs need to be.

Not like me, I know, but I will forgo the obvious zinger here.

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

Hahahaha!

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

And yet...

the chorus is kinda nice-ish
radiohead aren't making interesting music now
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 15:39 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What chorus?

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure if they wrote a song that felt like it should be 15 minutes long, then it would be 15 minutes long. I don't particularly see the point in taking 3-4 minutes worth of ideas an overinflating it for the sake of it.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

*and

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Thursday, 5 May 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

ok this song rules, i'm interested in radiohead again after almost 10 years. makes me want to listen to the old stuff. w/r/t thom yorke's lyrics sounding dated or stale - well, the song is from 2005...

flappy bird, Friday, 6 May 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

I wish this song had a bridge or something more than just verse/chorus/verse/chorus because it ends before it really goes anywhere, making it feel slight.

ufo, Friday, 6 May 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link

Radiohead songs are short and loud because they're a pop band.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 May 2016 05:21 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I mean Imago is the only poster who actively correlates track length with quality, he drops this one every time Radiohead release an album.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2016 07:59 (seven years ago) link

Maybe not quality but, y'know, 'ambition' or whatever.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2016 08:00 (seven years ago) link

It's because he thinks long = 'not pop' and he thinks pop is for kids.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:01 (seven years ago) link

do I have to show you the pop tracks in my EOY lists over the last 5 years

also I clearly don't correlate length with quality (these days), it'd just be interesting to see Radiohead attempt something long-form, challenge their own parameters

The pop wars were fought in 2003, kid.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:11 (seven years ago) link

At their core, as interesting and 'progressive' as they may seem to some, Radiohead are shrewd businessmen and pop musicians first and foremost, and radical art experimentalists somewhere much further down the line.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:12 (seven years ago) link

Which is to say that I can't see them ever doing anything longform and weird or fully abstracted.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:12 (seven years ago) link

I'm using none of these terms pejoratively, either. I'm delighted that they're shrewd businessmen and pop musicians.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:13 (seven years ago) link

TBH I think they'd be terrible at it, it would be license to unleash all their worst instincts.

The problem with TKoL in particular wasn't anything to do with length it was that it felt unfinished - both the album and several of the songs. Virtually all of them sounded way better live but then that's been true of most Radiohead from Kid A onwards.

It's possible to overemphasise the 'pop' side as well as the 'art' side fwiw. Putting both in scare quotes because I'm not sure Radiohead are either really.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2016 08:16 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that's fair.

I go back to the tracks around TKoL far more than I do the album itself. Staircase, Daily Mail, etc etc. They;'re all really good. They feel more lithe than the album tracks.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:18 (seven years ago) link

I love Staircase but The Daily Mail is probably the worst song they've released since Punchup At A Wedding. That kind of weary piano plod is the worst of all Radioheads.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2016 08:24 (seven years ago) link

Punchup At A Wedding is in my all-time Radiohead top 5 lol

it should be 9 minutes long

I didn't like Daily Mail initially but it's really grown on me over the years, and now feels like the apotheosis of that kind of song by them.

Punchup is fucking horrible.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:29 (seven years ago) link

that little blip beat at the end of punchup rules

flappy bird, Friday, 6 May 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link

They're both terrible Radiohead songs.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link

Yeah Radiohead have always straddled that pop/art line and it's made them very successful. I know it's been said before, but it's amazing to think that something like Pyramid Song could chart so high in the UK. They must be doing something right.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:54 (seven years ago) link

Only guy who can do the pathetic singer singing about pathetic people still sound cool is Tom Waits. Everytime Thom picks a piano without a backing band it's terrible.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 08:56 (seven years ago) link

Punch-Up was one of the first songs on HTTT that grabbed me when I first got it. Never understood the hate.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:00 (seven years ago) link

although a 'Worst Radiohead Songs' poll could be an interesting w.a.s.t.e of time

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:04 (seven years ago) link

high and dry would presumably win by 10000000 points, given that we all have functioning ears

I'm very lukewarm on HTTT generally but Punch-Up is great.

Birds in Hell, Friday, 6 May 2016 09:06 (seven years ago) link

what's wrong with High and Dry? Perfectly fine song, if over-proliferated over the years.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:07 (seven years ago) link

my top 5 worst radiohead songs would p much all be off the bends tho so i'm v much not the party line

I like both Punch Up and The Daily Mail. High and Dry is shit.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:10 (seven years ago) link

The Gloaming is the true crap HTTT song. Is it fair to say that's a really backloaded album? I've got little time for anything up until There There comes in, and then I pretty much love everything after and including that point.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:11 (seven years ago) link

The Bends is a fantastic record. I never listen to it today. It gets written-off as meat'n'potatoes acoustic rock but it's miles from that, especially given the context of when it came out. Planet Telex alone is testament to that.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:13 (seven years ago) link

m8 the opening stretch of httt is second only to ok computer's, it is wonderful

not even sure it's second given that ok computer has exit music where httt has backdrifts (challop sure but w/e)

planet telex is the best thing on the bends imo by a long, long way

I listened to The Bends in full the other day, and a number of songs do sound quite meat n potatoes to me. A couple of pleasant surprises on it which I'd forgotten about though, namely Nice Dream and Bulletproof.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:16 (seven years ago) link

not even sure it's second given that ok computer has exit music where httt has backdrifts (challop sure but w/e)

― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago)

Backdrifts is incredible, one of their most overlooked tracks.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:16 (seven years ago) link

yeah zackly

not even sure it's second given that ok computer has exit music where httt has backdrifts (challop sure but w/e)

― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:14 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Case in point. Backdrifts is awful.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:22 (seven years ago) link

Yeah Backdrifts is one of those awkwardly grafted electronic songs that still appear on Yorke solo records (also Where I End And You Begin and The Gloaming are so much better). The whole album could stand to lose four or five songs (especially in the second half) but we've done this to death over the years and I think it's now pretty underrated.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link

I listened to The Bends in full the other day, and a number of songs do sound quite meat n potatoes to me. A couple of pleasant surprises on it which I'd forgotten about though, namely Nice Dream and Bulletproof.

― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 10:16 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah those are some of the best songs. Iron Lung is all time too. Don't get me wrong, compared to what came later it sounds like Travis, but there's enough other stuff going on to make it well, not Travis.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:34 (seven years ago) link

"scatterbrain" -> "wolf at the door" is prob my favorite section of music on any radiohead record. album is still wayyyy too long and unfocused

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:38 (seven years ago) link

The Gloaming is the true crap HTTT song.

I love that one!

Agree that the first half of HTTT is a major bummer. Go To Sleep has to be one of my least favourite post-Bends RH songs.

I love We Suck Young Blood and I think things pick up from there but on the whole I don't think it measures up to either Kid A/Amnesiac or In Rainbows.

Birds in Hell, Friday, 6 May 2016 09:39 (seven years ago) link

the first 4 tracks are, like, so good

Don't get me wrong, compared to what came later it sounds like Travis, but there's enough other stuff going on to make it well, not Travis.

Oh I definitely enjoyed hearing The Bends and Fake Plastic Trees, they're cleverly put together songs, but if that kind of thing was the extent of their ambitions they wouldn't be a band I would particularly call myself a fan of.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:42 (seven years ago) link

the album version of the gloaming is unfinished, live with the extra bass & drums it's much better

i never used to like punch up at a wedding, but it's grown on me more recently, the groove's got a nice quiet menace to it. i wouldn't mind a 9 minute version of it really. i'd be interested in them doing some longer tracks, it's one direction they've hinted at but never really explored.

the weak point on the bends is bones, but it's a pretty good album if sometimes overrated. black star especially is fantastic

ufo, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link

The Confield-ish textures on the Gloaming really do it for me, there's a bit that sounds like the beat has been chopped up into tiny pieces and is just sloshing around that I didn't really hear again until the Holly Herndon album last year.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link

xp Bones is crap. I'm not a fan of the title track either.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 11:17 (seven years ago) link

Another new video on Instagram, Thom appears to have lost his car this time.

nate woolls, Friday, 6 May 2016 11:27 (seven years ago) link

Where'd he park the car? Where'd he park the car?

the toast of every coast (cajunsunday), Friday, 6 May 2016 11:29 (seven years ago) link

Another video this afternoon?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 11:32 (seven years ago) link

This'll be the PTA directed one I'd wager.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 11:32 (seven years ago) link

album out may 8th

global tetrahedron, Friday, 6 May 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

Source?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

https://youtu.be/TTAU7lLDZYU

and another song

seems like this album is going to focus on Jonny's orchestrations

ufo, Friday, 6 May 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

6.25 long, LJ will be happy.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 6 May 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link

Is Radiohead one of the few marquee acts these days where people can name more than one member?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 May 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

This thread has me listening to HTTT again. Still thing the first half (save the opening salvo) is a snooze. I still really like Punch-Up, it's a highlight for me. MAkes me think of Grateful Dead when they went disco for some reason. Great piano and I love the bass riff. No idea why people don't like it.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 6 May 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

HTTT needs Go To Sleep and Backdrifts out, the rest is great.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

Backdrifts is by far my favorite song on HttT, apart from the opening pair.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

Relistening to HTTT right now and wow if there was ever an album that took me back to hating Bush and Iraq War as a teenager.... that and Rock against Bush vol. 2.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

The Bends is perfect and a deserved classic. Don't confuse the far superior material on this with the masses of shit post-Britpop it inspired.

'A Punchup At The Wedding' is indeed a woeful heap of shit.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

imo they never bettered OKC and I doubt they ever will, that album deserves all the accolades that have been heaped on it over the years

schlep and back trio (anagram), Friday, 6 May 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

New song is 6 minutes btw! Be happy fans of long songs.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link

many xposts HTTT is by far my favorite Radiohead album. Maybe it's sentimental (first Radiohead album I bought, and it's how i learned the word pretentious. went with my dad to get it the day it came out. on the cab ride home, i noticed how all the songs had alternate titles and said i thought that was cool. my dad goes "Oh, that is so pretentious."), but I love how sprawling and diverse it is. fuck a focused record. I mean yeah, Kid A is great, super concise, but it's limited. HTTT is the only album where they get to explore every spoke of the wheel that is Radiohead. Speaks to the record's double album vibe that no one can agree which songs are shit/which songs should be cut... but like with the white album, most people will say "yeah, that one should've been shorter..." no way

flappy bird, Friday, 6 May 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

*even though HTTT isn't a double album (at least not a double CD...i think all their records are 2xLPs...)

flappy bird, Friday, 6 May 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

otm

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

No, not OTM. Kid A (and Amnesiac) covers a hell of a lot of ground, but the influences are blended together to form a satisfying whole, and is impeccably produced to boot. Hail To The Thief, by comparison, is a fucking mess - although there's some good songs on it. Some of the stuff on there was leftover material from the Kid A/Amnesiac/Amnesiac B-side sessions.

And as much as I love the evil keyboard sound on it, 'Cuttooth' > 'Myxomatosis' any day of the week.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah as much as in rainbows is my favorite radiohead record their best material imo is the amnesiac b-sides

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 6 May 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

Nonsense! Although if you take some of the b-sides and use them instead some of the actual songs on Amnesiac the record is much better! Here's a tracklist choice for Amnesiac + B-sides best of:

1. Packt Like Sardines in a Crushed Tin Box
2. Pyramid Song
3. You and Whose Army
4. I Might Be Wrong
5. Fog
6. Cutooth
7. Worrywort
8. The Amazing Sounds of Orgy
9. Kinetic
10. Life in a Glasshouse

Takes a three star album up to four stars.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

There's a case about adding a studio version of the live piano version of Like Spinning Plates.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

'Dollars and Cents' was a huge grower for me. The first time I heard it, I thought it was a bit of an aimless jam, but I've come to appreciate it more and more over the years... the echoing percussion and the overall moody vibe of it. 'Knives Out' is a favourite of mine too, and I've always been curious as to what the zillion different ways they supposedly attempted it sounded like. It was notoriously the one song during the entire sessions that they spend ages on trying to find an approach.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah, 'Like Spinning Plates' piano version > the studio version.

But the piano version wouldn't exist without the studio version, and the studio version wouldn't exist without... 'I Will', which to me is the inferior song!

If you play the studio version of 'Like Spinning Plates' backwards, you get one of the ways they originally attempted 'I Will', the "dodgy Kraftwerk" version as Thom called it.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

*spent

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

Yes I know that! But they released the process of getting there when they should've released the final piano version. The backwards one and I Will would have been better saved for rarities or b-sides as a cool fact of how the piano version came to be.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

OTM. Couldn't possibly disagree with that!

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

Amnesiac was my favorite for a long time, but the electronics sound way more confident and well-integrated on HttT, and I just love the sound of the record as a whole. It's not as concise but there's just so much good material.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

I don't know if I agree with that. The electronic elements on Hail To The Thief sound diluted to me.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

Gloaming is good tho

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

I also rearranged HTTT on my digital collection because it's a chore to listen to the original one in one sitting. Here's what I posted in other thread:


Actually Thom Yorke himself once played god with this one and posted an alternate tracklist to it in the band's blog. Here's his version:

there there
the gloaming
sail to the moon
sit down. stand up
go to sleep
whereiendandubegin
scatterbrain
2+2=5
myxomatosis
a wolf at the door

He solves two of the album's main problems. It's length is one of them. The album really benefits from cutting a couple of songs off of it and specially if one of the songs is 'We Suck Young Blood'. That's the second one.

I have a couple problems with his alt tracklist, though: A) He rearranged the tracklist in a way that you lose the opening one-two punch of '2+2=5' and 'sit down' which is one of my favorite moments in the album. B) He removed 'Backdrifts' which is one of the few fun, light moments in the album and a personal favorite of mine. I also kind of hate 'go to sleep' except for Johnny's solo at the end of it but I'm always bored by the time it arrives. I'd much rather have the b-side 'I am a wicked child' as a substitute, it kind of has the same country-rock feel only more kraut. It's not very remarkable but it gets the job done. Also love 'the gloaming' so throwing it in there to balance some of the removals on the bottom half. You can easily take them out if you want for a 10 track album. Here's my take then:

1. 2+2=5
2. Sit Down Stand Up
3. Sail to the Moon
4. Backdrifts
5. I Am A Wicked Child
6. Where I End and You Begin
7. Gagging Order
8. The Gloaming
9. There There
10. Myxomatosis
11. Scatterbrain
12. A Wolf at the Door

― Moka

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

I meant that I added Gagging Order not the Gloaming and that you can remove that and Wicked Child for a 10 track album which imho makes for a more enjoyable and concise album.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

hail to the thief is singular in the radiohead catalog for all of its b-sides being horrible except "gagging order"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

Curious that Thom pretty much agrees with some of you that the weaker songs are I Will, Punchup, Backdrifts and We suck young blood. I like Backdrifts but I guess I wouldn't mind having it as a b-side or a solo Thom joint.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

Yeah HTTT is definitely the album with the worst b-sides. Even Pablo Honey had decent leftovers.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

And in the KOL era they were toying with the idea of releasing the whole sessions as 6 separate 7" throughout the year but it was more or less a bad idea. Radiohead are not really a single dosage band. It kind of frustrates me how better that album could have been with the addition of supercollider and staircase. I think the ratings for the album would have been better too... Listen to this and tell me if it doesn't improve it:

1. Lotus Flower
2. Feral
3. Staircase
4. Little by Little
5. Codex
6. Give Up the Ghost
7. Supercollider
8. Morning Mr Magpie
9. Bloom
10. Separator

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

But nooo they had to release them as separate singles.

Hope Burn the Witch and Daydreaming are actually on the next album, I fear they might be left out if the idea of separate singles is still there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

'Gagging Order' weirdly was another Kid A/Amnesiac reject, as was 'Feeling Pulled Apart By Horses' ...

I've never understood the intense dislike for Pablo Honey - the way some bang on about it, you'd think it was some kind of colossally awful record. In reality, it isn't - it's quite a good record for what it is, taken on its own terms.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

I can't find it... It was an interview where they said music consumptiom has changed and noone is really listening to full albums anymore and the medium would be better with the artists releasing anything they have fresh from the studio instead of waiting to have a full album.

I mean I get what they were hinting at but Radiohead is one of the few existing rock bands who still make people buy full albums.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

I mean, in terms of "first albums that weren't as ambitious as what came later", Pablo Honey absolutely wipes the floor with, say, Blur's Leisure, which is actually legit terrible in places yet fans of Blur defend it in a way Radiohead's fans don't with Pablo Honey.

I have to say, though, it does make me smile when I see people who weren't even a twinkle in their dad's scrotums slagging off 'Creep' because they read that Thom hated it many years ago.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

*when it first came out.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

xxpost:

As great as the individual tracks are, Radiohead are very much an albums band for me.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

I don't hate it but it's the only album of theirs I don't own. I see it as a pretty decent 90s brit-pop-rock album but as a Radiohead album it's not really interesting, it also spawned the 'Pop is dead' b-side which probably still makes Thom embarrassed and it should.

They made a huge leap from PH to the Bends and then they took a
more significant one with OKC. When Kid A first came out some people were freaking out on how different they sounded but they had reinvented themselves twice before that and in a frankly more challenging way.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

Hmm. I'm not quite sure that The Bends came out of nowhere, or even that Pablo Honey was/is an uninteresting record. The opening track has a shifting time signature which flips between 12/8 and 11/8! There's some stunning guitar moments on it. Only 'How Do You?' and 'Lurgee' disappoint, for me at least.

'You', 'Stop Whispering', 'Ripcord', 'Prove Yourself', 'I Can't', 'Blow Out' and, yes, 'Creep' are all long-time favourites of mine.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

'Pop Is Dead' is fucking crap, though. That I will agree with... and the video! Jesus, that video!

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

"Blow Out" is great

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 6 May 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

Pablo Honey has very few bad songs.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 7 May 2016 09:22 (seven years ago) link

Why would you make a version of HTTT and leave I Will off it ffs?

Matt DC, Saturday, 7 May 2016 09:49 (seven years ago) link

Eh, 'I Will' really isn't that essential.

'Where I End and You Begin' on the other hand: all-time!

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Saturday, 7 May 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

I mean, Thm himself removed it from the tracklist. I think it's a lovely song and it sounded great on meeting people is easy but it needs more work. It feels undercooked and transforming it into a creepy children ditty doesn't work for me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 7 May 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link

we suck young blood is one of the best songs they've ever done. perfect example of a "double album song"...

flappy bird, Saturday, 7 May 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

'We Suck Young Blood' is absolute garbage and I can't take anyone who thinks it's one of the best things this band have ever done seriously. It's like they read all the criticisms about them being whiny and said "okay, let's do a track that actually lives up to that, then" ... Absolute drivel.

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Saturday, 7 May 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

"Pop is dead", the one with the guitar riff REM would kill for?

Mark G, Saturday, 7 May 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

I kind of hate how 2+2=5 is followed right by Sit Down, Stand Up. Both are good songs, but they have really similar structures: start small and build up, up, up until an explosion at the end. Kind of tiring for me to hear it twice in a row

Vinnie, Sunday, 8 May 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link

I included Gagging Order on my revised HTTT tracklist but hearing this live rendition today... it sounds so out of place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJznVEh6Dyg

It's a beautiful song but it doesn't really fit in any of their albums from the past 20+ years. It was a song that was supposedly around since the Kid A sessions but it sounds straight from The Bends or even Pablo Honey, are we sure it's not older? It has that early 90's Radiohead vibes.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 07:07 (seven years ago) link

Heard Pablo Honey again today inspired by this thread and I thought only Blow Out is worth a damn.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 07:20 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

Just bunged this on to see if maybe it might have grown on me, and no.

There's something incredibly unpleasant about the production on this album that really puts me off. Take for example the opening track, Bloom - that indistinct, skittering drumming that sounds like it was recorded on a phone; Thom's voice sliding indistinctly all over it. Also a distinct lack of low-end which is something I specifically associate with avant-rock music of that era. There's little to latch on to, it's all meatless, unfocused, and not in a dreamy ambient or shoegazey way - it just doesn't hold together, it's missing a certain glue.

The worst for this is 'Feral' which is maybe my least favourite Radiohead song. Just this horrible, clippy, thin drum loop that doesn't seem to quite lock into itself. Thom sounds like he's just got a new loop pedal and is testing it out by mumbling a few breathy syllables into it. There's a bassline which comes in during certain points but it's airless and boring; it does nothing and then fades out. The track is barely worthy of a B-side, just sounds like a 3-minute outtake of the band jamming. I'm not sure what it's doing on this short 8-track album other than taking up space.

Too many of the songs sound like this: Not really songs, but indistinct improvisations over busy but timid and unadventurous rhythms. It really does remind me of the kind of thing my band would have done during jam sessions where we were trying to find ways into writing more fully-formed songs. It's hard to imagine the band themselves being actually satisfied with these, and I'm surprised they put this out.

The two tracks I will give credit to are Little By Little and Give Up The Ghost. LBL is a distant cousin of Knives Out and Karma Police, but again, less immediate and still featuring that clickety clackety drum sound* Thom seems to love and I hate.

Give Up The Ghost is a lovely ballad which puts the busker-with-a-loop-pedal style to good use. That said, it still sounds like the kind of thing Radiohead would previously have put on a B-side (see "How I Made My Millions").

I nearly gave up on them around this time but I'm glad they bounced back with the stronger and more fully-formed A Moon Shaped Pool, which is one of their very best albums.

*no doubt influenced by the AFX/Squarepusher track Freeman Hardy Willis Acid which he is a fan of

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 12:23 (two years ago) link

ok but what about the From the Basement versions

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 12:31 (two years ago) link

they are a lot better sounding from what i recall

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 12:33 (two years ago) link

Bloom from the basement is a revelation - it makes you realise it's a fantastic composition let down by the flat production as you say. I'm totally with you on Feral, what a piece of crap. No love for Lotus Flower though? One of Thom's slinkiest melodies actually very well served my the oblique production imo.

There are three songs released as singles around the same time which are much better than most things on the album - Staircase, Supercollider and The Daily Mail, all of which have nice full production jobs. Another of the era's bizarre decisions to leave them off.

chap, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 12:58 (two years ago) link

I also recommend Good Morning Mr Magpie from the basement. Proper slaps where the studio version snoozes.

chap, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link

"feral" at least kinda works live where the bass shines through but still very far from their best work

iirc the thing was that "the butcher" & "supercollider" weren't quite finished by the time they put out the album, and they never came up with studio versions of "staircase" or "the daily mail" that they liked which is why the released versions were just the basement live versions.

ufo, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 13:00 (two years ago) link

the released versions were just the basement live versions.

didn't realise this!

chap, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 13:14 (two years ago) link

I only ever listen to the FtB versions tbh

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

The weirdly bad production on KoL is one of the great mysteries of their discography. Has Nigel Godrich ever talked about it?

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link

I assume the rawer/off-the-cuff approach is just what they were after. They seem to alternate between "fussy" and "not-fussed-over" albums for the last little bit. (If the pattern holds, the next one'll be a little rougher around the edges too.)

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

this is the album that put me off of Radiohead

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

This is also when they added a drummer (this was before Phil was sacked a few weeks ago), and also near the dissolution of at least one marriage. I just kind of assume they were all extremely cranky

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link

KoL tracks "Had our Phil" and "Bad Drum Phil" were probably hints in retrospect

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link

Codex, lotus, and magpie are all great

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link

actually simon, from what they've said it was kinda the opposite - TKoL was very much a fussed-over studio creation that was built around experiments with looping & sampling their playing that then then spent ages editing into actual songs, while AMSP was all recorded on 8-track with a rule that they had to erase the previous take of anything they wanted to record, with apparently 80% of it recorded in two weeks after a long exploratory period of just figuring out what the album should be

ufo, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 14:37 (two years ago) link

And Clive Deamer wasn't added as a live drummer until after the record, to help recreate all those clicky clacky loops.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link

horrid

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

real heads know it was Bernard Purdie who played on this (uncredited) because Selway couldn't hack that sweet shuffle beat.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

the selway ploddle

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link

AMSP was all recorded on 8-track with a rule that they had to erase the previous take of anything they wanted to record, with apparently 80% of it recorded in two weeks after a long exploratory period of just figuring out what the album should be

wow surprised radiohead went with the patented Brad Nelson Creative Method for that record but it really paid off

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link

Yeah huge props to them for committing to that.

Poor Phil. :( I feel similar affection for Phil as I feel for Lars.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

What's all this about Phil Selway?

chap, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

he's been sacked

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

? Nothing on google.

chap, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

At the time, I thought that "Codex" and "Give Up the Ghost" would be a good direction for them to go, less musically self-conscious and calmer; the next album was pretty much what I was hoping for.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

xp phil has been sacked but the world doesn't know it yet

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link

is there anyone else out there who loves "separator" the most on tkol? speaking of drums, it's got one of rh's sickest beats imo

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

^ Yes, I think it's my favourite on the record. Love the rhythm section and the vibe.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link

yeah Separator has my vote too but I am a sick beats man

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

*separates from the rest of the thread and invites ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ and m__k to sick beats island

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link

jordan, let me know if i'm out bounds here, but i'll just say that the separator drum pattern is literally soothing to play. there's such a good balance between left and right, between leaning on the left for the closed hi-hats at the beginning, leaning right to do the 2 16th-notes on the bass drum, punctuated by an open hi-hat (lifting up the left foot/leg in doing-so) and then stepping back on the left again to close the hi-hats and begin the pattern again. it is left and right, in about equal doses, with a nice measure of balance and waiting and anticipating thrown in. it's like the Downward Dog of drumming

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:47 (two years ago) link

i imagine it's what "slapping" feels like to a bass player. like, there's this temptation to slap because maybe it feels good? but the difference is, this beat also sounds good

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

Beat is nice but I hate the way you can hear an audible join where you can tell it's a loop. I can't work out if it's deliberate or just sloppy editing

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link

would be much better with a real drummer imo, it's not too hard. but then again, i don't think phil could do it. that led to the sacking of course

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:59 (two years ago) link

sick beats, man, this is some island

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 10 June 2021 00:52 (two years ago) link

*there's only one disc, on this island. it is donkey kong country*

Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 June 2021 00:55 (two years ago) link

listening to this now (well, From the Basement) and I remembered I always lose the "1" in Little By Little which drives me mad. Also the riff is an endless staircase and the vocal literally climbs up it, little by little.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 10 June 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link

I've never taken much notice of Radiohead, but there's a live concert of them on at the moment and this band is not for the likes of me. Thom Yorke's out of tune vocals and idiotic stage antics are unbearable - his vocals are unbearable when they're in tune though tbf. I even hate the look of them: the pointless bald drummers, the guitarist with the fucking hat on. They are better than Muse though, who I saw on the same channel a few months back and who are literally the worst band in the world.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 23:54 (two years ago) link

Jesus Christ, what a night, it's the Stereophonics now and it was Manic Street Preachers earlier.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 June 2021 23:57 (two years ago) link

"Thom Yorke's out of tune vocals and idiotic stage antics are unbearable"

posh Oxford wankers should be banned from music if they are shit.

calzino, Sunday, 20 June 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link

Radiohead are fucking pez, man. Absolute shite!

calzino, Sunday, 20 June 2021 00:39 (two years ago) link

wow more like analhead - the licking of rims jk this is not bad and yall need to calm down in the radiohead - the king of limbs thread

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 20 June 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link

yeah, what's going on here. we're just trying to hang out and have a good time

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 June 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

i was going about my saturday evening, rearranging my living space. and now suddenly i have this problem

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 June 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

if he ever wants another lazy damaged eye I'd be happy to volunteer for throwing some battery acid and rubbing some industrial swarf in his other eye just get the lol of it!

calzino, Sunday, 20 June 2021 01:08 (two years ago) link

two fucked up eyes would make him look really deep and enigmatic

calzino, Sunday, 20 June 2021 01:09 (two years ago) link

calzino you DO know about the infamous Curse of Thom's Lazy Eye, right? it comes upon all those who make fun of his eye. it makes your every spoken word sound exactly like him at the end of climbing up the walls :-O

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 June 2021 01:15 (two years ago) link

kick them off the island Karl

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 20 June 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link

this has already been a hard month for a lot of people. ed o'brien, colin greenwood, phil selway -- all sacked. they found out via twitter. it's sad, but fair. but the curse of thom's lazy eye isn't up to me. the wheels are already in motion though

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 June 2021 02:08 (two years ago) link

Xxxpost:

Separator is my favorite song too. It’d be Staircase if that was a proper song on the album. Supercollider is also one of my favorite songs from these sessions… I hate that neither made it to the album. If I had to rank them it’d be:

1. Staircase
2. Separator
3. Codex
4. Supercollider
5. Lotus Flower
6. Little by Little
7. Bloom
8. Give up the Ghost
9. Morning Mr Magpie
10. Feral
11. Butcher
12. Daily Mail

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 20 June 2021 03:37 (two years ago) link

I picked this thread to comment on because the concert was from the TKOL period and so there was a lot of what doglatin rightly described as 'indistinct, skittering drumming that sounds like it was recorded on a phone' - which, for some reason, they felt they need to reproduce live using two bald drummers and which, into the bargain, was surely dated as hell in 2012? Also guitarists who start to play guitar and some horrible digital synth sound comes out, like Wire tried doing, to universal derision, on their famously shitty "Manscape" album twenty years previously. I don't mind this band, apart from Thom Yorke, I watched the concert to see what exactly it is about them that people with fairly good taste like. I get the impression this was not a good period for them though.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 June 2021 08:53 (two years ago) link

u guys thom's been fired

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 20 June 2021 12:33 (two years ago) link

It was only a matter of time. The Thom limb has been removed. The king of limbs is now Jonny and the band is now called Jonnyhead

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 June 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link

Xp it is definitely least favorite period of theirs, though the From the Basement versions of them improve on most of them a bit.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 June 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

Hey, bald drummer #2 played on all those Portishead and Roni Size records, please treat him with respect.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 20 June 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

One bald drummer is fine, two is beyond the pale.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 June 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link

The baldshaming itt is a disgrace.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 20 June 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

It was about time Radiohead released something that actually divided the fanbase.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 20 June 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link

Know what's beyond pale? Those bald-ass heads.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 20 June 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

I won't come in here and say this is my favorite or the best Radiohead album, but Andy does like it a lot more than what seems to be the consensus. Also have to agree that the Basement versions are the better way to hear this material — though I do not mind listening to the proper album one bit. Further, I also agree that "Supercollider" and "The Butcher" are necessary additions whenever this era is considered. Not sure why, but I remember being extra excited when we were able to buy the 12" for those.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 20 June 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

Don't really get the talk of the poor production on the album, but that's oddly how I feel about Hail to the Theif.

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 20 June 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

httt was their "lets rush thru this shit to get out of our label contract asap" record so that makes some sense

class project pat (m bison), Sunday, 20 June 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

I actually love how TKOL sounds, can’t agree with HTTT hate how thin and crisp everything sounds in that one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 20 June 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link

Probably my least favorite RH album based on sound alone.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 20 June 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link

That’s the actual album of theirs that should have been cut to 8 songs.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 20 June 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link

Everyone has their own preferred 8-track version of httt and they all rule in different ways

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 June 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link

was recently reading a critique of Godrich on rateyourmusic.com on Parquet Courts' "Wide AwAAAAAAAAAKE!" (which he had nothing to do with) that got me trying to put my finger on what it is with Godrich's production sometimes.... but i dunno i think it might be more that the band eventually comes up with more interesting arrangements (e.g. how "The Gloaming" has evolved live). I'm not sure how to discuss production in depth. I guess my next step might be seeing how the hoffman dudes describe it. ANyway, for your entertainment:

When working on Room on Fire, the Strokes had originally worked with Radiohead producer Nigel Godrich, but scrapped it, deeming his production as "soulless." It's funny: hardly a bastion of soul themselves or known for their smarts, and yet the Strokes were able to see something that most people wouldn't catch up on for years (still haven't figured out): Nigel Godrich's whistle-clean, digital-doodad production seems to only work for Radiohead, and that sound has been just as influential on the indie-alternative scene of the 2000s as Radiohead themselves. No proof better than Danger Mouse, who followed closely in Godrich's footsteps.

God, what a hack. Brian Burton made his name on The Grey Album, a smart-stupid mash-up between Jay-Z's The Black Album and the Beatles' The White Album that frankly no one has heard more than twice, and then was somehow everywhere after: Gorillaz, Beck (notably, after Beck worked with Godrich), Sparklehorse, Broken Bells, Gnarls Barkley (with Godrich). And it was the same shit each and every time: clean and barren and soulless and not dangerous at all. Safety Mouse! He's the anti-Midas. All of it very much of its time, which would be fine except he's somehow still around producing songs for bigger names.

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 20 June 2021 23:20 (two years ago) link

httt was their "lets rush thru this shit to get out of our label contract asap" record so that makes some sense

pitchfork had called it the "thom got beat up in the street and wrote this" record which might also make some sense.... they deleted the review tho, weird

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 20 June 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

For better or for worse Nigel is the sixth member of Radiohead. Not counting Pablo Honey and the random collaborations only The Bends and the Suspiria OST were not produced by him and he was still somewhat involved in those two.

I think his style is usually very “dry” but I can’t imagine another producer clicking as well with their vision OKC-onwards.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 21 June 2021 00:43 (two years ago) link

I think Nigel works for “soul-less” albums like Kid A or Amnesiac, albums like HTTT or In Rainbows I think would have been interesting to hear with someone else.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 21 June 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link

In Rainbows is my fave, Thief my least, so I'm really not sure how to even talk about this. Is dry production like when you stuff the kick drum with towels?

I feel more like we're talking about the degree to which the songs were fleshed out on the records.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 June 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link

I think Nigel works for “soul-less” albums like Kid A or Amnesiac, albums like HTTT or In Rainbows I think would have been interesting to hear with someone else.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, June 20, 2021 5:51 PM

except in rainbows sounds amazing.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Monday, 21 June 2021 00:58 (two years ago) link

Like what the heck were the Strokes looking for from him?

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 June 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

gravitas

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

orchestral arrangement for "meet me in the bathroom"

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link

julian casablancas wanted to practice his english accents for jokes

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:00 (two years ago) link

"12:51 (ondes martenot outtakes)"

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link

here for it

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link

first In Rainbows sessions were with Spike Stent.. Wonder what they were looking for

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 June 2021 01:07 (two years ago) link

iirc even that was just because nigel was busy with something else at the time

ufo, Monday, 21 June 2021 02:49 (two years ago) link

I agree that In Rainbows sounds amazing… just saying it would have been interesting to hear it under a “warmer” producer. Maybe it would have been for the worse, we will never know.

Everyone has their own definition of what “dry” or “wet” in production means I guess. Iirc “dry” usually means very clean on effects and recorded without reverb or echo in the room and “wet” is the opposite.

I’m aware Radiohead’s songs are filled with effects but imho they sound “dry” because it’s usually very clear, specially on the first segments on their songs. Radiohead seem to love doing buildups for most of the song and releasing tension in the last minute - They’ve been doing it since “Creep” and refining it ever since - They need that “dry” cleaner sound otherwise when you keep adding layers later on it’s will sound way too saturated and they’ll end up sounding like a shoegaze band.

I can see why the Strokes thought they didn’t make a good match with Nigel. They tend to play very straight songs that can be translated live effortlessly, you need a “wet” sound if you’re not adding layers /as the song advances.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 21 June 2021 04:08 (two years ago) link

Maybe I’m not making sense. It’s been an exhausting day.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 21 June 2021 04:08 (two years ago) link

What I mean is that the strokes will make a song structure that goes:

Intro: vocals and lead guitar
Verse: enters bass and drums
Chorus: enter second guitar

And Radiohead will be more like

Intro: electronic drum loop and vocals
Verse: enter guitar 1 and some ambient effect
Verse 2: enter bass, guitar 2 and drums
Chorus: drop 1 of those and add a spooky moog
Bridge: leave random 3 of the above of your choice
Chorus 2: bring everything back but add the london symphony orchestra and start screaming

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 21 June 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link

Maybe I'm in the minority for generally liking Godrich's production. Even on Terror Twilight. Always find it really warm and sparkly

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 21 June 2021 10:26 (two years ago) link

Love Pavement and many of Godrich's productions with Radiohead, but Terror Twilight does nothing for me

Vinnie, Monday, 21 June 2021 11:25 (two years ago) link

It's just interesting to think about stuff like why the Strokes would've wanted to work with him, then. And in the end they put out the famously same-as-their-debut sounding "Room On Fire"... but in my memory it had a much bigger range of sounds than their first.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 June 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link

"i was thinking of doing this keyboard thing ..." "Get Radiohead's guy on the phone!"

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 June 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link

I actually love how TKOL sounds, can’t agree with HTTT hate how thin and crisp everything sounds in that one.

Weird, to me HttT sounds the most like a big modern rock album to me...lots of bass, very compressed, some bigger drum sounds. I really like how it sounds, but it feels like they reacted against it on IR (lots of very dry '70s type drum sounds, like not a lot of room sound or compression-for-effect, with the exception of certain tunes or moments).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link

not a lot of room sound

I think this is a production problem with both IR and TKOL, though it's more pronounced on the latter. They're both quite "airless" sounding to my ears and it drives me a little nuts. Even on the most outre Kid A/Amnesiac tracks there's a sense of space which grounds the music and makes it feel "live." I think they rectified this a little bit on AMSP. I don't know what exact production techniques contribute to this besides reverb and mixing, but it's interesting to me how different their recordings sound from album to album.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Monday, 21 June 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I always think of the drum sound on IR as being super home record-y and dry, but I guess it leaves room for the lush Ondes & string parts, and the guitars.

But then there's Reckoner, the only one with really bold choices on the drum sound (very compressed and roomy with the drum kit all on the right channel, and that incredibly recorded + verb-ed out tambourine in the left).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 21 June 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

When I think of Terror Twilight, I think of The Hexx and how spacey and trippy it sounds. I wouldn't change the production on that at all.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 21 June 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link


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