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You nominated and then voted, and now we get to count down the top 125 tracks of the last century according to all of US. Many many thank yous to seandalai, without whom 100-vote ballots would never have been possible.

88 ballots: 17 weighted, 37 unweighted, 34 mixed
1901 tracks received points
The most votes for one track is 32
The most first-place votes for one track is 2
Votes for Eddie Murphy - Boogie in your Butt: 0

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man, are we starting now??

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLFNFlc9hU

xp just a few to grease the wheel tonight.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

if there are 124 better tracks than that coming up this is going to be fun!

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

wow! we're starting at 1100 points and 13 votes!? Suddenly my hopes for most of the songs on my ballot getting represented have been severely crushed.

Very excited on seeing results on this tho.

Moka, Monday, 29 November 2010 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Awesome that this is getting going. Johnny, do you have a EST timetable for the weekday results?

Gukbe, Monday, 29 November 2010 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't believe the countdown is beginning!

"Folsom Prison Blues" was actually a very last minute addition to my ballot -- glad my impulsive choice got it in the top 125.

falkor johnson (askance johnson), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Johnny, do you have a EST timetable for the weekday results?

I'm going to try to get it rolling around noon-ish each day if I can.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

imo "Folsom Prison Blues" is probz the greatest track to ever come out of the heyday of Sun Studios. A line like "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die" would get bleeped on radio/Mtv these days.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GN2kpBoFs4

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

^ this song is unimpeachable, and I'm kind of bothered with myself for not even voting for it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

It was one of the most difficult ones to cut for me.

Gukbe, Monday, 29 November 2010 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link

123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iwC2QljLn4

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

haha nice. didn't vote for it, but it's a great song.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

all the oldies ;)

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 05:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't wait until 2030, when "Ace of Spades" will be fifty years old and I'll be listening to it like my mom listens to Dean Martin now.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jrJ5mcCshw

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think I voted for any of these so far but I love them!

mormon's marmots (crüt), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I voted for Cash, but I'm not sure about the others. I, too, love all of them so far.

This is the last late-night one. More coming later today...

121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDw-hTuwcvA

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, all great songs so far, but how could they not be? Basically, anything that makes this list—considering there were over 2000 noms, some of which weren't even (necessarily) the best representations of each artist—is a complete winner, wherever it places.

Lostandfound, Monday, 29 November 2010 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link

probably not necessary yet, but to summarize:

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Ipanema and Debaser were on my ballot but they were also some of what I thought some of the most popular votes in there... not happy to see them placing this early.

Moka, Monday, 29 November 2010 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"Debaser" is my first vote to make it. My list is total canon.

Gukbe, Monday, 29 November 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I love Pixies like nobody's business, but I voted no Pixies.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link

very deliberately didn't vote any pixies, but i'm not surprised at all to see them place. wouldn't even be surprised if we haven't seen the last of them on this list.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link

great start! voted for "ace" and "girl", but different FM & pixies tracks. probably unforgivable that i didn't vote for cash, but something had to give.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for MBV and only MBV because I am kelpolaris.

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link

liar. I've seen all the ballots and there no all-MBV ballot. again I say, LIAR.

(I probably wouldn't have voted for it, but I'm sad no one nomm'ed "Liar" by Rollins Band.)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I might've clicked on David Bowie a couple times on accident.

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Monday, 29 November 2010 07:07 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't vote any of them but all great tracks obviously

dig the high number of points

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 07:09 (thirteen years ago) link

we have virtually 5 decades represented already.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 07:11 (thirteen years ago) link

by which you mean 34 years?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 07:16 (thirteen years ago) link

that's one way of looking at it

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 07:18 (thirteen years ago) link

voted for folsom prison and debaser, debaser was a last second add-on

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Monday, 29 November 2010 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd love to see people's individual lists for the 20th century. Not ballots, but what ilmers would construct w/o a pesky nomination process. I'd guess a sizable chunk of my own top 100 wasn't even nominated here, or if they were they didn't receive a lot of support. I may start a tumblr for just that purpose next year.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Mine would include a handful of album tracks that I didn't bother to nominate because only I would vote for them, such as "The Landscape Is Changing" and "Told You So" by Depeche Mode.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 29 November 2010 09:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't manage to squeeze "Girl from Ipanema" to my ballot, but it's a beautiful tune, would've expected it to be in the top 100. I guess it suffers from overexposure, what with being the best known bossa nova song of all time. (Possibly even the best known Brazilian tune of all time, alongside "Aquarela do Brazil"/"Brazil"?) I've always kinda wondered about the legend related to the recording of the Getz/Gilberto version "Ipanema": supposedly João was supposed to sing the whole tune by himself, but his English pronounciation was so bad he asked his wife, who happened to be in the studio, to sing the English part. Sounds kinda too fortuituous to be true, but nevertheless it was the first time Astrud's singing was ever put on record, so that's one hell of a debut.

"Folsom Prison Blues" is fine too. As for other three songs here, well, they're not my thing.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I might have voted for "And Then" (xpost to geir)

mormon's marmots (crüt), Monday, 29 November 2010 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, the pedant in me would like to remind that the song should be credited to "Stan Getz & João Gilberto" (that's how the record was credited when it came out, as Astrud only did a guest vocal), but of course it's Astrud's part that everyone remembers, and not João's Portuguese verse.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

As for other three songs here, well, they're not my thing.

I get that for Motorhead and Pixies, but it puzzles me re: Fleetwood Mac. Even at their most commercial, Lindsey Buckingham is still doing all kinds of unconventional musical things within the song (the same goes for most of what he's ever recorded). I think if you ever really spent time going under the surface of Buckingham-era Mac, you'd arrive at a happy destination.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, the pedant in me would like to remind that the song should be credited to "Stan Getz & João Gilberto" (that's how the record was credited when it came out, as Astrud only did a guest vocal)

I actually looked around to verify some things on a few entries, including this one, and (as a single) it was released as Stan Getz & Astrud Gilberto. ¯(°_o)/¯

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

"Also, the pedant in me would like to remind that the song should be credited to "Stan Getz & João Gilberto" (that's how the record was credited when it came out, as Astrud only did a guest vocal), but of course it's Astrud's part that everyone remembers, and not João's Portuguese verse."

i mentioned this somewhere in the noms thread a while back.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 09:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Later pressings of it might've been credited to Astrud, but at least according to discogs.com the original 1964 Verve single was credtited to Getz and João.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I just saw that. oh well.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:00 (thirteen years ago) link

think i nominated it (?), and yeah, went with the credit i've most often observed: stan & astrud. hard to argue with those label photos, though. ah, well...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

It's okay - since many of the older songs in the poll have a kazillion different recordings, I guess it's fair that we mention the names that people most often associate with the tune. Just because some of the Duke Ellington big band songs were originally released under some alternate pseudonym doesn't mean we can't credit them to "Duke Ellington & His Band" now.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, but i hate getting stuff wrong. according to wikipedia (lol), billboard credited it to stan & astrud in '64. odd.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Although I enjoy 'Debaser' as much as anything else by the Pixies, that one lead guitar line is really weedy and terrible.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Great list so far! It's just what I was hoping it would look like, so long as there's some pre-50s stuff to come. Good mix of genres and eras, plus a cult-y thing even if it's not my thing at all - I'm just never going to get Pixies, I can tell, their stuff always seems so unadventurous and pointless, it's not even a vehicle for the lyrics which are even more inane so far as I can tell. Reasonable tunes to be fair, but they shouldve tried a bit harder imo.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

why u braek hart, IK? Just kidding. It's cool if people don't love Pixies. I know other people who don't, and I still talk to them. (but I don't buy them anything on their birthdays)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't much care for the Fleetwood Mac even if I can see the appeal, kicking myself for not voting for the Cash. Voted for a different Pixies track that'll never make it, voted for the Brazilians. Overall, happy!

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Pity I forgot to nominate Mac's "Silver Springs" and that no one else did either. It's probably the best thing Buckingham/Nicks-era Mac ever recorded, but was forgotten by time until a few years ago because it was originally relegated to being the b-side of "Go Your Own Way" after being cut from the running order of Rumours. (It's since been restored on the remastered album.)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I bought the remaster a few months ago (on your recommendation, I think, Johnny). I still can't get used to 'Silver Springs' being there tbh, it feels like I'm not actually listening to the album any more. Great sound quality on the thing though, you were right about that - things like the end of 'Gold Dust Woman' sound amazing.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

When you starting up again Johnny?

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd gone through a long period of not listening to Rumours before I bought the remaster, and since then I've listened to it about a thousand times. I'm far more comfortable with "Silver Springs" being right in the middle now, so much so that if it doesn't come between "Songbird" and "The Chain," then something seems like it's missing. The official word is that it made the album's running time too long, but it's clear that Lindsey didn't really want it on the record (for, what seem like, obvious reasons).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

When you starting up again Johnny?

Soon, I guess. I've had the worst insomnia lately, and could never really get to sleep over the night, so fuck it...I'll just keep posting until I pass out.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

What time is it where you are? Try and sleep my good man, the insatiable needs of ilm isn't that important.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCIQWV5B7Cs

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Joy of joys!

caloma, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Great tune, but not my favourite version.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Do you prefer Andy Williams' version, or is there a better lesser-known version you favor? I actually like the original Mancini instrumental the best.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe you started this at 5am!

The only track I don't like so far is the Fleetwood Mac. The only one I voted for so far is Getz/Gilberto. I'm definitely a bit worried about my votes now I've seen how many it takes to get top 125.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm definitely a bit worried about my votes now I've seen how many it takes to get top 125.

Ditto. Even with 200 points from me, "Supper's Ready" will struggle here. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Something tells me that my love of obscure rap singles wasn't a great act of tactical voting but I'd love for you guys to prove me wrong

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I just threw out the first five starting at midnight my time, expecting to go to sleep and then continue on later in the day. But I'll be damned if I never really went to sleep for more than a couple hours. So here I am, up, still posting. I'm going to take some kind of sleep aid tonight and right this ship before it sails off the edge of the sea. xps

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2BavhwpIJg

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, I don't like this one either.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd definitely heard "I'm Not in Love" before this year, but I never spent any time with it until I heard the entire Gayngs album was based on this song as a blueprint (not to mention the cover of Godley & Creme's "Cry" being included). I still can't say I'm a huge fan of this, and would rather have seen the original "Cry" in its place.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:40 (thirteen years ago) link

118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5kAXNm0od4

I'd like to think some of my campaigning got this in! (If not, don't tell me...I want to live in denial.)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't expect any 10cc to make the list to be honest, but they sure were healthily represented in the noms list and if one of the songs had to feature, then i'm happy for it to be this one.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't get the 10cc. It's just shitty soft rock? Rumble is the nuts, even with the Tarentino taint (of which there is surely more to come).

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah 'rumble' is pretty timeless.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

in any case, none of my votes have been represented yet.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't get the 10cc. It's just shitty soft rock?

Yep. Shitty shitty shitty soft rock.

'Rumble' seems pretty good; think it might be the first time I'd heard that one.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i didn't know what 'rumble' was by the title, but the second i pressed play on the youtube thing i recognised it.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Do you prefer Andy Williams' version, or is there a better lesser-known version you favor? I actually like the original Mancini instrumental the best.

The Williams version is good, but my favourites are probably Sarah Vaughan's and Sinatra's.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, listening to 'i'm not in love' again for the first time in while, i can't help but be struck by the fairly awful meandering mess of a midsection.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd never heard "Rumble" before this either. I don't really get it... Maybe it was groundbreaking back in its day, but now it just sounds like a really basic instrumental rock tune with not much of a groove or melody.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxuThNgl3YA

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Y'all 10cc haters can FO, that song is magical.

Fetchboy, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

"Born to Run": okay, but the Frankie Goes to Hollywood version is better.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

As much as I love FGtH, no.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry kids, the top 116 are all shitty shitty soft rock.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

springzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. the musical equiv of seinfeld.

have you people never seen pulp fiction? like even if you hadn't heard it elsewhere - which in itself seems crazy - pulp fiction isn't exactly obscure.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

You can hate "I'm Not in Love", but you have to admit 10CC helped millions of people all around the world to get laid.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I've seen Pulp Fiction, but I didn't remember that song was in it. The faster instrumental rock tune that played during the credits was much more memorable.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i was really repping for 'atlantic city' (even though i didn't vote for it in the end).

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link

You're thinking of "Misirlou" by Dick Dale. It's good too, but "Rumble" is just absolutely menacing. xp

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Only Springsteen tunes I like are "Streets of Philadelphia" and the Arthur Baker remix of "Dancing in the Dark". He's just not a particularly good singer. And the FGtH version of "Born to Run" also works better because the lyrics sound more believable as an Englishman's fantasy of America.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

haha, Tarantino taint.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't get the 10cc. It's just shitty soft rock?

No, it's shitty soft rock with really awesome production. Didn't vote for it but I do appreciate the sound of the thing. It's like music for astronauts to chill to in their living quarters. Play a bit of chess, crack open a powdered dinner, brush your teeth, poop in a polybag, play a bit of 10cc. Nice.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Rumble is pretty righteous. never heard that 10cc track before but it's not very good...

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet atlantic city will place

iatee, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

might be the only other springsteen tho

iatee, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

have you people never seen pulp fiction? like even if you hadn't heard it elsewhere - which in itself seems crazy - pulp fiction isn't exactly obscure.

I don't remember 'Rumble' from Pulp Fiction either. And I've definitely heard Link Wray before, I just don't recall this one.

Feeling the Springzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz stance.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess it is a Englishers : Billy Bragg :: Amerikkkans : Brucey thing?

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKVWjpKc8so

Prince music on youtube gets pulled faster than the American version of Coupling, so this link might be dead pretty soon. While you can, enjoy the guy with the fat forearms model his special promo 12" for you.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

This is the bit of Pulp Fiction with 'Rumble' in it

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I never understand why people reference "Rumble" as being the first song to use a power chord when he is clearly playing full (though possibly open) chords

mormon's marmots (crüt), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought that the urban legend was that he was the first person to use distortion when he purposely beat the shit out of his amp to give it a dirtier sound.

Fetchboy, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

He gets credited for both things, but I don't think "Rumble" is the origin of the power chord. Plenty of his other stuff uses them, though.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYIlH4nOEo

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

First track I utterly utterly love (didn't vote for it though).

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I should get around to hearing the Surf's Up album, huh? (I'd never even listened to Pet Sounds until about 10 years ago.)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually did NOT vote for this but for about a year it was my favorite track. I won't listen to any Smile mix that doesn't end with Surf's Up. Check out the version on Unsurpassed Masters 16 for an extra minute or so.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Yay, "Controversy"! That's probably my favourite Prince tune of them all, at least among his dancefloor oriented material. It was in my top 20; too bad it didn't make the actual top 100, but I guess it was inevitable the better known hits (I assume both "Kiss" and "Doves" are still to come) would place higher.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Prince! Didn't vote for it but Prince! :)

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Wonder how the 'only vote once for each artist' will effect prince because i didn't vote for controversy or the two tuo listed. (/replace prince's name for other canon artist you may care more about)

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

The Surf's Up album definitely worth hearing as a demonstration of the good, bad and ugly of post-Brian Wilson Beach Boys. It has some of the highest highs and lowest lows of the BBs catalog. 'Til I Die is pretty unimpeachable along with Surf's Up if the lyrics don't bother you, and Feel Flows was on the Almost Famous soundtrack IIRC. On the other hand there are Disney Girls, which I used to love Disney Girls which I can barely get through now, the proto-Love You track Take a Load Off Your Feet, and Student Demonstration Time is legendarily horrible.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

*which I used to love but can barely get through now

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for a coupla Beach Boys tracks but I kind of dislike "Surf's Up."

mormon's marmots (crüt), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Prince was the only artist that had 3 songs in my top 100 - I tried to cut them down to 2, but I just didn't have the heart to do it.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Surf's Up... seems like it has the traits of the Beach Boys I like the least on first listen. Where are the hooks and craziness?

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

oh there's definitely craziness as far as i can tell.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, about to say, that track is brimming with craziness.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv65gOE8QNY

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

What a shame to press that "Controversy" 12" at 33 1/3. It would have been phatter at 45.

"Rumble" is totally awesome. My first exposure would have been the Adam & the Ants rip-off/homage "Killer In The Home."

I'm surprised at the 10cc hate. It was in my long shortlist like several others here.

Kent Burt, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - The Smile-related material is a bit like the Beach Boys' "There's a Riot Going On" for me - epic but dissolute, barely even pretending to be a proper group anymore, with all bravado replaced by vulnerability.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

paint it black is dope as fuck.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't really get the Rolling Stones at all, but Paint it Black is ok.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't vote for any Stones, but I've got a lot of time for 'Paint it Black'.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

voted for two stones, neither of which were 'paint it black'. only one of them has a chance of popping up later.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I love "Paint it Black" too, but I would assume it's been discussed to death at one point or another by everyone here, so...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lAYwYtvoX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOy-pJ1xQe0

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

awesome! i nommed that miles, but incredibly didn't end up voting for it. great to see it place.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't know what Miles to vote for and so I didn't but In A Silent Way is the fucking nuts and everyone should own a copy.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Beautiful. If we ever do an artist of the century poll, I think maybe Miles would get my vote.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm much more familiar with bebop Miles and not very familiar at all with more freeform/experimental/fusion Miles. I guess In a Silent Way is as good as any place to dig in.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I have 3 songs I've voted for make the list so far, and generally enjoy the other songs that have made the list to this point, except the boring Springsteen cut.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

If we ever do an artist of the century poll

Don't be giving me ideas!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I assumed albums were next...

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

No interest here, but if someone else does that I'll vote.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Shhh/Peaceful is my first vote to appear so far - though I would have voted for something off Bitches Brew instead if any had been nominated. What's the opposite of vote-splitting? Vote-fusion?

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link

would vote dj premier in such a poll.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link

112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MrQtOoQRpc

Fuck yes! This track still hits like a sledgehammer 22 years after the fact.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i honestly don't think i've played that record in almost 10 years, but yeah killer track.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"Born to Run": okay, but the Frankie Goes to Hollywood version is better.

― Tuomas, Monday, November 29, 2010 1:16 PM (1 hour ago)

I love the Frankie version it manages to sound even more exciting than the original.

Great to see Surf's Up and Controversy, they are my favourite songs by each artist and my first votes to appear.

I was surprised that I only ended up voting for one Prince song but a lot of my favourite songs of his weren't nominated, If I Was Your Girlfriend, She's Always In My Hair, The Cross, I Would Die 4 U and When You Were Mine would have made my list.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

What's the opposite of vote-splitting? Vote-fusion?

looooooool excellent work

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, nommed on the last day(and subsequently voted for) 'Straight Outta Compton' so glad that it got some love here.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Paint It Black one of the two Stones tracks I voted for but that's the only 2 of mine to appear thus far.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQsvMf8X0FY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt9iLDmaQwk

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Spotify playlist, for the Europeans: http://bit.ly/fdTfYf

scotstvo, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

just realised that maybe 2 of mine total will make it

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

So glad to see the Miles... its was either my #1 or 2, can't remember. Straight Out of Compton was also high on my ballot.

sofatruck, Monday, 29 November 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Compton isn't that good. *ducks and covers*. In fact that whole album is kinda lame, NY was so ahead in '88 that it sounds really dated. *prepares for sb fever*

My Favourite Things! One of the two Coltrane's I voted for! That guy can fucking PLAY.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Awww, if I'd have ordered my ballot, 'My Favorite Things' would've got like another 100 points out of me. Love the rumbling of the thunderstorms brewing in the rhythm section. Beautiful playing by McCoy as well. Could have gone for a wilder Trane tune, but that song already has a lot of the ingredients in it that I love him for. Worth hunting down some of the footage of the band playing this on YouTube though.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Awww, if I'd have ordered my ballot, 'My Favorite Things' would've got like another 100 points out of me.

That would've put it in the 80s, fwiw.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qEq4mAnV64

(I'd never actually seen the video before just now.)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

10cc are of course not "shitty soft rock". Not that there's anything wrong with soft rock in the first place, but 10cc were a lot more detailed and basically more "prog" than, say, Boston or Chicago or Journey have ever been.
That said, they made better, more complex and proggier songs than "I'm Not In Love" although I'm afraid none of them are in the top 125 (except for maybe "I'm Mandy Fly Me", which I know has some ILM'ers loving it)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 29 November 2010 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought Stereolab was supposed to be some kind of an experimental instrumental rock band, but I guess I'm mixing the up with something else? Anyway, very boring tune, I can't see how this is supposed to be the 110th best song of the century. It doesn't sound at all different from thousands of other indie songs like it.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Stereolab got a lot more bleepy-bloopy with the Dots and Loops album a few years after this. They started out very straightforward.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Johnny, I am loving this list so far! Well done stretching it to 125. 'My Favorite Things' sounds like the best music ever. I can totally see why people give their lives to jazz right now.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks, but I'm as responsible for the results as everyone else is. I just have the privilege of revealing them.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

JF your post on "Rumble" made me vote for it. I had heard the song before but didn't know the title or performer.

a nan, a bal, an anal -- (abanana), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdmvs7r1u9c

I am way down with Kate Bush from, like, 1982 onwards. The really early stuff grates on me like a belt sander, though. More power to those of you who love it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

thx abanana!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Jenny Ondioline has pretty much everything that people who like Stereolab like about Stereolab while also appealing to indie rock people. Not all that surprising that it made the list IMO.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link

hah! There is no bigger Stereolab fan on this forum than me and it's almost the last track of theirs I'd vote for. Hopefully French Disko will be higher.

hurrah for "Wuthering Heights" though - the first thing on my ballot to make the countdown

Jeff W, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad Stereolab made it, although I voted for 'French Disko' instead.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

"I can totally see why people give their lives to jazz right now."

Totally. I wish I could get into it more.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Jenny Ondioline has pretty much everything that people who like Stereolab like about Stereolab while also appealing to indie rock people. Not all that surprising that it made the list IMO.

But is sounds so boring! There's no catchy melody, nor a groovy rhythm section, nor any sonic innovation. What's the point of listening to music like this?

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I, too, would've voted French Disko if I'd voted for Stereolab. (Actually, I would've voted for Crest, but it wasn't nominated.)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

There's no catchy melody

Yes there is.

nor a groovy rhythm section

Yes there is.

nor any sonic innovation.

Yes there is. (Although a lot less than later Stereolab, I will grant.)

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

The entire track is a groovy rhythm section. It's not like French Disko is Brill Building catchy either.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought Stereolab was supposed to be some kind of an experimental instrumental rock band, but I guess I'm mixing the up with something else? Anyway, very boring tune, I can't see how this is supposed to be the 110th best song of the century. It doesn't sound at all different from thousands of other indie songs like it.

― Tuomas, Monday, November 29, 2010 3:06 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark


really? I dunno, I think it sounds p.different from a generic representative of the set of 'indie songs' — think yr maybe underrating the extent to which the droniness of the whole thing functions as a striking structural/aesthetic/historical(krautrock influences and all that)/etc. quality, at least to people approaching it from a certain musical tradition

xpost as far as "the point of listening to" it: the sharp contrast between the minimal verses and that "ooooooh-oooooooh" harmonized vocal part that comes in as a sort of refrain is the big musical payoff for me, and in general I find the sounds pleasant+dynamic

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't seem to find the thread where I detailed turning my occasional affair with jazz into a loving marriage but guys ilm is a terrific place to learn and be helped into the many depths of the genre.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

It was a real torment deciding how many and which Kate tracks to vote for. I didn't go for 'Wuthering Heights' in the end, even though sometimes the 'let me have it' is my favourite thing in all music.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"Born To Run" was the first song I thought "oh damn, I forgot that one" about after I submitted my ballot, so I'm glad to see it got in without my help. I didn't vote for "Straight Outta Compton" but it gives me a little hope that the 16 rap songs on my ballot weren't wasted effort.

some dude, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

The entire track is a groovy rhythm section. It's not like French Disko is Brill Building catchy either.

Really? Because to my ears the drums and bass are mixed pretty low compared to the rather monotone guitar and vocals, and they play the same tired rock rhythm all the way through with little variation or syncopation (except for some double time drumming when the chorus starts). That isn't my idea of "groovy".

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't seem to find the thread where I detailed turning my occasional affair with jazz into a loving marriage but guys ilm is a terrific place to learn and be helped into the many depths of the genre.

― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, November 29, 2010 3:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
cosign — ILM has turned me onto more amazing jazz albums than I could ever hope to recall

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GDIkb5CDUY

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link

another of my votes. at this rate levi 167 WILL make it as I am officially becoming an ilm tastemaker ;)

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

awesome song — one of my favorite extended neil jams — great lyric, skeletal but compelling — dunno what else to say

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

stereolab are one of my favourite bands, but i didn't vote for either of those songs. i do love 'jenny ondioline' though. would have voted for 'metronomic underground' in a heartbeat had it been nominated. and incidentally, they are a repetitive, rather monotone band by nature. very unique and distinctive, however, as far as contemporary "indie" groups go if you ask me.

i must have been extremely close to including 'wuthering heights' on my ballot. i had to double check whether i'd put it in there or not.

that still makes zero tracks so far that i voted for (including cortez)

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't vote for Stereolab because neither "Harmonium" nor "Super-Electric" were nominated. I do like "Jenny Ondioline" and I'm not sure what the point is exactly, but I likes me some drone and digs me some repetition, repetition, repetition. I'm not sure you can judge the mix based on a YouTube clip's sound. The LP version was 18 minutes long and included several different parts.

Kent Burt, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Got to agree with Tuomas here - they just seem to do so little with any of the elements compared to others. I mean, if drone is the thing, 'Tomorrow Never Knows' didn't even get nominated.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Did 'Cortez' get mentioned in that racist-songs-that-got-under-the-radar thread? I love the song to bits but I was just thinking about that terrible "he came dancin' across de water man" part.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Stereolab really is a tale of two sounds, though. There's a pre-Emperor Tomato Ketchup sound and a post-ETK sound (with ETK existing as the bridge between the two). Later 'Lab really is a lot more funky (I use the term loosely) whereas earlier 'Lab is monotone and driven.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not a huge Stereolab fan or anything but f anyone bitching about a great song like "Jenny Ondioline"

mormon's marmots (crüt), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

The whole lyric in Cortez puzzles me now - 'war was never known' about the Aztecs?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh I love the smell of rockism in the morning...

Kent Burt, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad Stereolab made it, although I voted for 'French Disko' instead.

― emil.y, Monday, November 29, 2010 3:19 PM (28 minutes ago)

Me too, I put it really high on my list. Not sure if I can see them having two songs on the list though.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

that 3 minute short version of Jenny Ondioline does sound kind of unimpressive when compared to the much longer LP version

peter in montreal, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I am agreeing with Tuomas about 90% here (except I don't understand how Fleetwood Mac gets lumped in with Motorhead and the Pixies).

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I've always been annoyed by the lyrics to Cortez. Much prefer the live version posted above than the Zuma version, can kind of see why people voted for it.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

feel like tuomas has already claimed his place as thread clusterfucker, excited for what's to come

iatee, Monday, 29 November 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js6r-1BcrrA

I can think of about 10 other Bobby Womack songs I'd have voted for ahead of this one, yet I still like this one just fine. Bobby Womack is vastly underappreciated.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

dude i'm just warming up xp

ooh! an OLD SONG! haha

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, yeah the lyrics to "Cortez" are kinda objectionable — dunno if 'racist' is exactly the term for it but w/e — as I said upthread tho, what I like about them is their sparseness, which works well with the song — it achieves an overall mood that, to me, is something totally sui generis and wonderful

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I took Across 110th Street off my list right at the end, glad to see it make an appearance. This was the song that got me really into Bobby Womack. Woman's Gotta Have It is probably the only song of his I like more.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

actually, shit man i could have very easily voted for 'french disko' on another day. listening to it now and it's incredible.

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Bernard, my is-this-not-somewhat-racist? query was solely about Neil's v. embarrassing accent in the segment that starts at around 6:22 in the clip above and goes through to the end of the song.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm gonna take a short break now and come back with more later...after this...

106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtWTUt2RZh0

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

tarentino taint pt. 2

fuckin' jam

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

To recap

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Agree CtK isn't racist, more a case of "I don't know anything about the Aztecs but I'll write a song about them anyway".

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

it's racist in a good way, cause he thinks they were a lot nicer than they actually were

iatee, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

can't remember if I voted for that kraftwerk track but it's a good one. Then again they almost all are.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

That was the Kraftwerk one I went for. Good list!

Gukbe, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Again, I only used that term about his Jamaican(?) accent in that clip (does he only do that on the Live Rust version? I can't remember) Have no idea how to unpack the itself song. xps

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the only time I've ever heard Cortez the Killer was Built to Spill's live version. /indie

Gukbe, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Marissa Nadler does a nice cover that I actually prefer over the original.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, even the accent in that video just seems sorta goofy to me; not sure what to make of it

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Off my list so far:

122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]

Mmmm... will we get any classical love further on? Splitting the poll into 1900-1950 / 1951-1999 would've been interesting.

Moka, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Woah - Just listening to Live Rust properly for the first time, that "Jamaican accent" bit is extra bizarre.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

lol, I didn't vote

Joe Wasp (DJP), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

^ despite my numerous pleas for you to!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

My Kraftwerk pick was fairly abitrary as it was very difficult to choose. I figured they'd have at least one entry, and to be honest I'd be surprised if 'Computer Love' was the only one that gets in.

Getz/Gilberto still my only vote so far, but I'm liking the look of the list. Nothing before 1950 yet, though.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Woah - Just listening to Live Rust properly for the first time, that "Jamaican accent" bit is extra bizarre.

Phew, glad it's not just me then. That version was the first one I heard, and here was this white guy singing about the wrongs of Spanish imperialism in Mexico in a comedy West Indian accent and I just had no idea what to make of that AT ALL.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

*wishes he'd done this on that other thread now instead of spoiling Johnny's poll*

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Naw, it's cool. The more actual discussion there is, the less of a chance the youtube embeds have to cluster up and freeze people's browsers.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

What do people think of how canon the poll is so far? It doesn't even seem like an ilx specific part of the canon and yet... it seems very appropriate. Some things are recognised for a reason etc.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

none of my songs appeared yet but I generally dig this list. Wish I helped Coltrane, Cash, Paint It Black and even Computer Love.

good to see N.W.A., Bobby Womack and especially Rumble place.

Only song I didn't know is the Stereolab one. Doesn't sound bad at all.

Seems like we can expect some mad Prince/Beach Boys/Neil Young?/Kraftwerk action in the top 100 (this is the end for the Pixies I hope)

Ace of Spades, The Girl From Ipanema and I'm Not in Love make for great variety. But I wouldn't mind if this was the last we saw from those genres.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I bumped the 2 jazz songs into the top 125. Lazy-ass ballot redeemed.

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, that faux-Jamaican bit does sound weird and uncomfortable now, but I'm guessing he was influenced by Uk punk's reggae dalliance and did it innocently at the time. I heart Neil, but the lyrics on CtK are some of his most awkward: "they lifted many stones", lol. Like when you're a kid and you have to write a poem for English class and you force the rhyme!

Also very happy Bobby Womack's in there.

tubby permacrocked whorefucker (Lostandfound), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, I think I read that Neil actually did write 'Cortez' as a poem for his class at school! The lyric would only really make sense to me if Cortez himself were the narrator for the whole thing - despite the splendour of the 'I know she's living there' verse, I don't think he is. I know Cortez grieved as he destroyed Tenochtitlán, but I wouldn't be confident that Neil did.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Enjoy your parkour, Johnny. btw what is the indie-ish song that lifts the melody from 'Computer Love'?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

coldplay "talk"

mormon's marmots (crüt), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, that's interesting, IK. Yeah I get very confused by the narrative in many of Neil's songs. "Powderfinger" is another one. Having said that, I've always found "he came dancing across the water" (when not sung in a fake Caribbean accent!) extremely chilling.

tubby permacrocked whorefucker (Lostandfound), Monday, 29 November 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

3 of mine so far... Prince, Miles, and of course Stereolab's best song Jenny Ondioline. Fuck off Tuomas, you clothed-ear Geir imitator. That song is better than any single thing on your ballot as far as I'm concerned.

sleeve, Monday, 29 November 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I get the feeling based on what I've heard that I'd get quite a lot out of Stereolab...

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

@acoleuthic: My two favourite Stereolab tracks by far are Animal or Vegetable and Metronomic Underground. (Spotify links because the first one is too long for YouTube, and I assume you have Spotify). I'd have voted for either if they'd been nominated.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I listened to Metronomic Underground earlier!! Found it to be a giant trippy massing pulsing thing with a cool hip-hop break. Will give some other stuff a listen. Like how there's usually at least one epic amidst each of their albums.

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

seandalai otm re: the two best things stereolab ever did. a shame neither of those tracks was nominated.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmmm... I am afraid, to a lot of us, with all those Youtube vids, this thread may be dangerously heavily packed for a lot of us Vista users........

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to "Metronomic Underground", and it's much better than the Stereolab song upthread. It's still not my favourite thing in the world (never understood bands who want to use "real" instruments to do what sounds essentially like imitation of electronic music), but at least this tune has a nice groove.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir, maybe use bookmarks and just go to where you left off reading the last time?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

If you turn off pics in ILX's "preferences", Youtube embeds turn to links -> problem solved.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i actually *didn't* vote for 'cortez' specifically because of that accent on the live version. it's the little things when you're trying to cut down to 100 songs.

looking forward to 105 more opportunities for tuomas to outgeir geir

mookieproof, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, I like everything in the list so far, good work everyone. Five from my ballot in already:

119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]

Saddened by the anti-'I'm Not In Love' sentiments upthread, one of the greatest songs ever in terms of bringing studio experimentalism into pop. As dreamy as any shoegaze/drone song too.

Gavin in Leeds, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3bjMtqpGBw

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

This was one of my very last cuts, so I'm very glad to see that it made the list anyways.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir, maybe use bookmarks and just go to where you left off reading the last time?

Yeah, finally using bookmarks completely revolutionized my ILX experience!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

If you turn off pics in ILX's "preferences", Youtube embeds turn to links -> problem solved.

― Tuomas, Monday, November 29, 2010 3:17 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they link you to awkward YT pages with the video taking up the whole browser window instead of the usual YouTube pages for videos, though, which kinda blows imo

some dude, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, the third of mine to show - wonderful tune, even if I prefer the Vanilla Fudge version

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

(I don't really)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

love the supremes song and bobby womack, didn't vote for them but happy they made it

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah. I didn't vote for the Supremes but happy to have them here.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Shit!!!

I should have voted for this. It would've probably push it in the top 100

"In 1966 I was appalled when a writer claimed "You Keep Me Hangin' On" was a better record than "Like A Rolling Stone," but it might be true."

Greil Marcus 100% otm

the shitty covers do ruin the song's reputation though.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvr5VboD66c

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO LOW

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean seriously TOO GODDAMN LOW.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

First time I ever heard it was two minutes ago, tbh.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

haha wait, awesome

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

lol britishes

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

That is some pretty forward thinking shit for 1963, I admit. I can dig it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

My love for that track has nothing to do with the programme, by the way. It's an awesome piece of music, and deserves to be in the top 100 of all time, never mind the 20th century. Can't believe it didn't even break the hundred.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

First serious "failed to vote for" regret on Dr Who theme.

calumerio, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for it and I have never seen the tv show either.

Moka, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2GmzyeeXnQ

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO LOW

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

YAWN

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

love the minimum point difference

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

both "too low" and "yawn" are right!

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, y'all.. there is no #101 or #100 because #99 is a three-way tie. Shall I post them down through #99 now or call it a day after #102 goes up?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, the third of mine to show - wonderful tune, even if I prefer the Vanilla Fudge version

Dude, that is so wrong...

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Kim Wilde version is where's it at imo.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

oh wow, the last ten seconds of that Supremes track are amazing.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

xp

you are both joking of course

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"You Really Got Me" is one of the canon classic rock hits that has never really appealed to me. A type of song that's been done much better many other times.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

JF, do it now!

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf2s7UHUrBw

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

???

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, post all the way to 99!

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

People love Talking Heads around here, but seldom actually discuss Talking Heads around here. So, here's the first of three tracks that tied for #99...

99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxzpKf7f990

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I am officially the opposite of ILM tastemaker. shame
1 pick so far.

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't had any! Voodoo Child is the closest I came to voting for anything thus far

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

we are doomed to wyatting aboot life

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

haha spoiler: I gave 200 points to a Wyatt song (but I already said I would)

Sea Song will make it, though

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

LJ, shame on you for not voting for the Who theme. Shame shame shame.

I've only had two so far, but there's been a whole bunch of stuff that I like.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

list is gonna be mostly really rockist or really popist, and progressive/avant-garde be heavily damned

PROVE ME WRONG EVERYONE haha

emil.y, I did not have it impressed upon me enough, either as a kid or in the run-up to voting :(

Plenty of good stuff so far, mind. Rumble probably deserves to be higher, Stereolab always welcome etc

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Good call on Voodoo Child, ILM. I almost went with this, but opted for Watchtower instead.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and one day Davis/Coltrane/other oldskool jazzers will click and I will turn into a raving fan, this is inevitable

underrated aeroflot disasters i have wikisearched (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

someone said they voted for basically every genre but purposely avoided prog-rock in the nomination thread
:?

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for at least one prog track, not sure about avant, I've forgotten exactly what made my final 100...

Gavin in Leeds, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate to say it but I think I forgot to vote for the Soft Machine track you repped for, LJ. Really meant to do so.

Also didn't vote for much jazz, as I couldn't really think of any individual song to vote for.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Yo3FJDrbc

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

lolsy

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

W00t! Pretty sure I ended up not voting for this (I like it a lot but I'm not sure it's the best thing ever), but again, happy to see it.

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, yep, that's the one.

Gavin in Leeds, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Robert Wyatt: "Oh no. I don't really like disconcerting people. Although often when I try to be normal I disconcert anyway." 21ST CENTURY SCHIZOID MAN DUNNNN NUNNNN NUNNN NUNN NUH NUHHHHH

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HFGY2qCKaM

And that's it for today!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - Mott the Hoople??? This better be surprisingly good...

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

ok lol I complain and my #5 shows up

n.b. my #5 was not mott the fucking hoople

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

It is a jam.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

xp: It's actually a David Bowie song. Bowie liked Mott the Hoople so much he wrote this song for them under the condition they will continue recording together. They recorded the song, it became a hit but they still disbanded shortly after.

Moka, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

90s aren't getting much love, eh?

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

damn, three classic rock songs tied for 99. Does that mean this list is ready to go pop (or even better, r'n'b) in a major way?

All the Young Dudes is the most beautiful genre/scene-defining song in the pop cannon. Best thing Bowie (or Hunter) ever did. Way to go ilm! First song from my ballot to make it.

Hendrix is a force of nature of course, and I guess we needed a prog song in the top 100 (we did?), might as well be the Fripp masturbation.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Fripp masturbation your ass.

Moka, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

no thanks

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd be happy just listening to the backing track over and over again. the contrast between the organ, the low guitar and the high guitar is incredibly done.

skip, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Does that mean this list is ready to go pop (or even better, r'n'b) in a major way?

The rest of the list is a 98-way tie between Madonna and James Brown songs.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

thank God

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

might as well be the Fripp masturbation.

― gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:36 (8 minutes ago)

srsly go 2 hell :P

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

21CSM is the ungodly pinnacle of 1960s art music and it kicks your ass and mine to svalbard and back

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

idk there is something kind of sweet using the name "frippertronics" for rubbing one out.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahahahaha ok you can have that one

21CSM is totes all abt the bass rather than the guitar tbf

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

so what I have learned from this thread is that LJ is really fucking mad for Mott the Hoople

I only skimmed it, tho

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

art music? hate that shit

but 21CSM could indeed be badass in the right set of mind. just hit me like a guitar overload next to Hendrix and Mott. No hard feelings.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Did I tell you guys that I coined the rhyming slang 'Tarkus' a while ago?

Tarkus = armadillo tank = well, what rhymes with tank, right?

(Sorry, just off to have a Tarkus.)

emil.y, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks like the yawnsome "classic rock" section has begun, but I'm still glad Kraftwerk and the Dr. Who team made it. I kinda worry about the fate of 80s/90s electronic dance music though... I'm not sure if a single tune from that scene will make it to the top 100, if even "Computer Love" didn't manage that feat. A lot of seminal house/techno classics (like "Strings of Life", "No UFOs", "Good Life", "Love Can't Turn Around", "Acid Tracks", "Energy Flash", or "Promised Land") weren't even nominated.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't vote for 21CSM but my #3 was King Crimson - Exiles
I've never thought of any of any prog-rock on my list as art music

"Computer Love" was the only 'techno' on my list. But I don't think you should worry - 80s/techno has it's ILX following

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

songs i voted for that have made it:

123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

songs i should have voted for (WTF me?):

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]

^ as i recall, at least. didn't save my ballot.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I agree about all of your "WTF me?" songs.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

number of songs that i voted for that have made an appearance: 0

what's going on here?

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

though 10 bands that i voted for have appeared with different songs. hmmm

charlie h, Monday, 29 November 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Saw already on the nomination list that it was the wrong track from "In The Court Of The Crimson King". I might have voted for the awesome title track, and also love "Epitaph" and "Moonchild". All three wonderful examples of early symphonic rock at its very best. Never understood the deal about "21th Centry Schizoid Man" though.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 29 November 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Four to show so far from my hundred:

11: Across 110th Street
14: You Keep Me Hangin' On
16: Go Your Own Way
unranked: Paint It Black

Ismael Klata, Monday, 29 November 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I know I voted for "I'm Not In Love" and also believe I voted for "Surf's Up". Nothing else from my 100 though.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 29 November 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, and "Wuthering Height" may have been in my ballot, although I believe it was cut when only the 100 were left.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Monday, 29 November 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the 90's version of "I'm Not In Love" that I like
(also I agree with geir about not understanding the deal with 21SCM - why did you not mention "I talk to the Wind"?)

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Monday, 29 November 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for all these songs:

122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

The fact that these all placed so low worries me that the higher up the ballot goes the less my own tastes will be represented...

Also, fuck y'all Cortez the Killer haterz. That song is epic and great, who cares if the lyrics are a little historically inaccurate - its true for the most part that the indigenous population were not accustomed to the kind of total war Cortez waged on them and yes, part of the song is obviously being sung by Cortez. If you're going to accuse Neil Young of crypto-racism I'm gonna have to resort to SBs...

Ignore Me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

actually CTK is a rly good song by any standards I gotta say

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't wait to bookmark this when it's finished

I refuse to bookmark it until it is finished

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I've only had three votes appear so far but I can get into almost everything that's placed, apart from Springsteen and Mott the Hoople (there are 50 Beatles songs that are better than "All the Young Dudes").

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i too can get into everything that's placed except for mott the hoople and bobby womack, who i honestly don't know much about. also, i'm predisposed to find the anthemic side of bruce springsteen a bit irksome, though i love a lot of his stuff.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't realise ppl were so anti 10CC : (

yuoowemeone, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't know enough people were into them to vote for them besides Geir! Maybe the same people voted "Year of the Cat" into the top 100s.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man Year of the Cat is a great song!

Ignore Me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

there are 50 Beatles songs that are better than "All the Young Dudes"

It's this kind of nonsense that makes me wish I'd created a weighted ballot with Mott the Hoople at the top of the list.

However Bowie meant the song, the Mott version is a call to arms for freaks and weirdos. I find it completely inspiring.

Kent Burt, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, "year of the cat" came way closer to making my cut than "i'm not in love"

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Great list so far imo. I don't dislike any of these trax & outright love about 75%. I honestly have no idea what chance most of the other songs I voted for have of placing.

I voted for:
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125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes] - My ballot: unranked
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes] - My ballot: unranked
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes] - My ballot: #22
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes] - My ballot: #32
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes] - My ballot: #17

Ten other tracks were by artists I voted for elsewhere.

I was not familiar w but really dig:
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122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man Year of the Cat is a great song!

Time Passages 4EVA!!!!!!

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted fer:

120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]

I can hardly believe I neglected to throw some points at "Folsom Prison Blues". I did vote for a few of the artists that have made it so far, but not these songs in particular.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

that 3 minute short version of Jenny Ondioline does sound kind of unimpressive when compared to the much longer LP version

― peter in montreal, Monday, November 29, 2010 10:52 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

this is otm. I've always considered the full-length version to be a worthy sequel to "Hallogallo" by Neu!, but to get the full hypnotic effect, you've got to commit to the 18 minutes. The extended length of the droney parts really increases the payback of the melodic sections.

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

3 of mine have made it so far:

Born To Run
Ace Of Spades
Voodoo Child

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

knowing something about the production of "I'm Not in Love" and how much it's more or less without precedent helps one appreciate it imo

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link

payback - er.. payoff

xxp

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Saw already on the nomination list that it was the wrong track from "In The Court Of The Crimson King". I might have voted for the awesome title track, and also love "Epitaph" and "Moonchild". All three wonderful examples of early symphonic rock at its very best. Never understood the deal about "21th Centry Schizoid Man" though.

― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro),

We rarely agree Geir but I'm with you on this one. I didn't vote for any KC in the end, tho, so it's not ok for me to complain.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:16 (thirteen years ago) link

genuine apols for not adding to the Doctor Who tally.

Totally expected This Must Be the Place to be higher tbh.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I regret the Delia Derbyshire and the Johnny Cash omissions, as well as the Supremes, who must have stayed in contention for my final 100 'til the last few seconds.

tubby permacrocked whorefucker (Lostandfound), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I was not familiar w but really dig:
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122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
...
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]

Really? You hadn't heard these before?!

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 07:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Hi guys, just had a quick skim of your thread, looks fun, won't staying as I don't want to have to SB a couple of dozen people in one go. Enjoy yourselves!

3:10 to Your Ma (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 07:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha ha, glad you're not staying then!

(I mean, genuinely confused, why would you want to ban people for talking about their favourite music, however awkward they/we might express it?)

tubby permacrocked whorefucker (Lostandfound), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 08:36 (thirteen years ago) link

wouldn't claim to speak for mr vague but i would think that it's more the people bitching about other peoples' favourite music that is the problem

tullamore dew hart (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link

all the young dudes makes me smiley but i didn't even consider voting for it (or any bowie).

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link

just realised that i did in fact vote for 'my favorite things'. that makes one so far in that case.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Was totally racking my brains last night trying to figure out what it was that sampled the opening twenty seconds of 'Across 110th Street'.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

* "Across 110th Street"
Ghostface Killah ft Tekitha - "Walking through the Darkness"
Tim Dog - "Bronx Nigga"

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Ghostface Killah ft Tekitha - "Walking through the Darkness"

^ that is exactly what I was thinking of. Off the Ghost Dog soundtrack yeah?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link

It's on Bulletproof Wallets, one of Ghostface's best songs.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's a great track.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Only one track so far that I've never heard - the Miles Davis - and nothing so far that I'd rate lower than 6/10.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

This is a fine selection methinks. Could have happily allocated points to virtually all of these in different circumstances. I seem to recall that I actually did vote for Ipanema, Ondioline, Cortez, Dr Who and Naive Melody.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Turns out that "I'm not in love" is a great headphones track - YouTube over laptop speakers doesn't do it justice.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i've always found 'i'm not in love' adds poignancy when it pops up in a movie scene or something, but it seems to come up a bit short when it has to make up all the yards itself. that corny, corny clip doesn't help much.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

more hits, johnny

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Coming up...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Woop! I was in danger of getting some work done...

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin" (1967) [1,231 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xcwt9mSbYE

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

hell of a way to start the day's count

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't vote for this, but yeah.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

To be perfectly honest, I don't listen to VU a whole lot. But when I put one of the records on (especially & Nico), I'm surprised by how well I remember every moment of them.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxiKwXhR_0w

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Nothing?

Maybe people are at lunch.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't vote for Juicy nor is it among my favourite tunes of all time, but it's nice to see some rap after a long string of Old Fogey Rock.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder what other rappers are gonna break it to the top 100? PE and Wu most likely, possibly Nas too. Any others?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I always wonder what was going through my mom's mind when I excitedly played Heroin for her after first listening to VU & Nico freshman year of college.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

"The Message" xp

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Had never heard Juicy before...don't really see the fuss but I know it's considered canon.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

"It Takes Two" xp

Love the Velvets and Biggie to pieces(though I didn't vote for these songs)

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

"Heroin" is another one I voted for. It's placed too low here. "Juicy" is nice to see, though there are several other tracks I prefer off of Ready to Die (maybe the best album of the 90's).

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

true that (the Ready To Die bit)

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwSZvHqf9qM

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Blood on the Tracks is probably my favourite Dylan album, so yay. Voted for "If you see her, say hello" rather than this, though.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

amazing no doubt. Big fan, but still avoided Dylan on my ballot

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I put "If You See Her, Say Hello" on a break-up mix I sent to a girl who dumped me once. SMOOVE.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe people are at lunch.

I like the idea that ILM is something you do during office hours only.

(not quite your point, I know)

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, woah at the concept of "break-up mix".

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I know, right? Fortunately, we're still friends. Not too long ago, she read the tracklist for the cd to me and a) I didn't remember half of the songs and b) cringed at the half I did remember. I wasn't going for quality, just randomly putting anything on there that had a "you squished my heart" sentiment.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Terrible, but I guess inevitable.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Yeah I was going to say a break up mix is an interesting idea. Was the compilation meant to win her back or just show how much you were hurting?

I'm not really a Dylan fan at all but Tangled Up In Blue is a really good song.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm glad to see "Smells Like Teen Spirit" here (I voted for it), though huge overplay has significantly hurt its impact today. Still a great song though.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it was a totally self-indulgent self-pitying mix to show her I was a broken man. Not my finest hour. xp

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

do you remember the tracklist?

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Terrible, but I guess inevitable.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:10 PM (4 minutes ago)

Is this a reaction to Nirvana being in the list or the low position?

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

image of dave grohl & his kit on that youtube frame is astounding, want to paint it like 8x12

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

True story: when she was a teen, a friend of mine made a friend of hers a mixtape after she'd broken up with a boyfriend, and on that tape every other track was "Everybody Hurts" by REM. Like, first it had some sad song, then "Everybody Hurts", then some other sad song, then "Everybody Hurts" again, etc.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

(at the concept, not at her heartbreak)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

"here. if you don't feel bad enough about your breakup, you might try listening to this tape."

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

do you remember the tracklist?

I've already forgotten it again, but I do remember putting "I Know You Love Me" by Smoking Popes on there. WHAT A PRESUMPTUOUS MOVE.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

breakups are a key ingredient for a transcendent listening experience

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

This next track is SOLID FUCKING GOLD...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

breakups are a key ingredient for a transcendent listening experience

sadly true

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZjAantupsA

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

YES!!!

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

YES!!!

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

hell yes. first song i voted for to show today (though i voted for others songs by some of those artists)

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't actually vote for it, but it's a monster and it' making me feel real good about this list

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I remember making a tape for a friend who had their heartbroken when I was younger. I can remember it started with Speedway Morrissey then had Mellow my Mind by Neil Young and somewhere on there it had Holocaust by Big Star. Looking back it seems I just wanted to make her feel worse, I should have gone for the everything's going to be okay angle.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

So good to Cameo make it. If anyone hasn't already heard it the whole album is ridiculously good. I actually might like the follow up single Candy more.

Word Up is my fourth choice to appear after The Beach Boys, Prince and Kate Bush.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yay!! Voted this. Strangely even though I have much love for it I have never felt compelled to search out any other Cameo stuff except 'Single Life'(?)

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh no I meant Candy is the only other Cameo I've heard.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

This is the first one to show up that I feel genuine regret not voting for. Just didn't notice it on the nomination list.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

hoping we'll get something, anything, from the first half of the century

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Not sure they had music back then.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

musical butter churns and shit

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

the world wasn't even in color back then

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think I ever realized how short this song is until I looked at the lengths on the youtube videos. Could anyone get away with a 2:18 single these days?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

if it's as good as this, hell yeah

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted Big Mama Thornton, Duke Ellington and Claude Debussy... not sure if there were any other pre-1950s on my ballot. Starting to lose hope of seeing them around here but anything could happen.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

they sure pack a ton of storytelling and emotion into that 2:18 too.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually might like the follow up single Candy more.

"Candy" is a better song IMO, but yeah that entire album! "Back and Forth" is also a monster of a song.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Have never knowingly listened to CCR, mainly because I loathe the name, but that was excellent :)

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

xxpost: It makes no sense to me why we aren't going back to 2 minute singles. What's the point of having pop songs that run over 3 minutes? All the new generations including mine have the attention span of a housefly and whatever you're going to sing in 4 minutes I'm sure you could reduce it by half and it wouldn't lose any of its catchy banality.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted Creedence, but not this one, still happy to see it though.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't vote but I think I love (or at least like a lot) every single song on this list. Good work, consensus.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for several pre-1950 tracks and would be surprised if at least a few of them didn't show up around here somwhere.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh no I meant Candy is the only other Cameo I've heard.

― Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:32 PM (10 minutes ago)

Along with Word Up some of their earlier albums are worth getting, their debut Cardiac Arrest is a classic. They started out quite gritty and funky similar to someone like The Ohio Players but Word Up is really where they peaked.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Duke Ellington and Billie Holiday are probably the only artists from the first half of the century who are certain to appear, though I do hope we get to see some Piaf, Debussy, Ella, Satchmo, Ravel, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Sinatra, Glenn Miller, and Scott Joplin.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

if we are still on the breakup songs subject (i know we are not but stay with me) I feel a need to correct my earlier remark about "All The Young Dudes" being the best thing Ian Hunter did. "I Wish I Was Your Mother" is. devastating song

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the Ellington and Louis Armstrong votes may have gotten split up among the dozens of songs nominated. I think I gave big points to "John The Revelator" and "Summertime" at least.

sofatruck, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I can think of five songs from the first half of the century that got my vote. there might be more

forgot about John The Revelato and Summertime. idiot

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I originally thought Kanye West was brilliant for making 'power' a 1:30 single and wished more artists followed on this path before I realized it was just a promo and the original song was actually 4:52 long. It lost most of its appeal to me shortly after that.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh I did vote for 'summertime' and a couple of Billie Holiday songs, forgot they're pre50s.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

91. (TIE) TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rb13ksYO0s

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

another YES!!!

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I really need more Toots in my life.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

everybody does

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Can you just post a lousy song please Johnny F.? I should be in bed as I've got to get up at 2am for work and the current run of tracks aren't helping to persuade me to call it a night ;)

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Love "Pressure Drop", first of my votes to place today.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

xp

yeah, this list is on a winning streak

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

idk 'smells like teen spirit' was pretty lousy.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Good list so far, I'm surprised there is so much consensus based off of such a huge list of choices. I tried voting but only managed to get down to about 300 songs before I had to leave town for Thanksgiving. Not really sad though because a lot of stuff I like is showing up here.

First time hearing Cameo though - good stuff!

Moodles, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

First time hearing Cameo though - good stuff!

If that's the only positive to come of this exercise, then I have done my job!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Just to backtrack a lot: I can kind of understand why people were scratching their heads over Jenny Ondiolline if they've only heard that YouTube version. The 18 minute album version is obviously one of Stereolab's magnum opuses.

Moodles, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

you had never heard "Word Up"??

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

91. (TIE) THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,282 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgoPl35n_AY

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

too low imo

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

perfect symbiosis of images and music.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

have no idea why i didn't vote for "pressure drop", but so great to see it show. go around singing it to myself all the time. tell the truth, i snubbed reggae, dub and ska in my votes. i think desmond dekker's "israelites" is the only song from that continuum i threw any points at. :(

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

did vote for "linus & lucy" though, so double yay

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

you had never heard "Word Up"??

― skip, Tuesday, November 30, 2010 1:04 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Nope, first time. When I clicked the YouTube I was expecting it to be something I recognized, but no dice.

Moodles, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Is the presence of 10cc on this list based on some kind of Ariel Pink-induced nostalgia wave?

Moodles, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

it's just based

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gchjWcTOVyM

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Was on my initial list, but eventually got nixed for 'London Calling'

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Had the band replaced London with, I dunno, Louisville (Kentucky) would it have garnered the same amount of fame?

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

As much as I love the Clash, I wouldn't have been butthurt by them not being on this list. I guess "Hammersmith" is as good a choice as any, though.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEyJ2EEvRBU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

uh oh

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

wat??? thought it'd hit the top 25 at the least

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

that song is massively overrated

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

good song but this means there will be a lot of beatles songs in the list

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Alongside 'Eleanor Rigby' one of the two really really really popular Beatles songs I don't actually care for.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

The Beatles' entire 1967 output is the black hole in their catalogue imo

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

but it's probably one of the catchiest songs of all time christ

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Far from my favourite Beatles song tbh.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Agree with above sentiment that this is one of the most overrated Beatles songs.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I shouldn't say "entire" 1967 output, but most of it...blech.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

xp @Johnny: I'd rate Walrus/Strawberry Fields/Hello Goodbye as excellent songs from 1967.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

"Elanor Rigby" is a fucking monster of a song, possibly the best thing The Beatles ever recorded.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

xp (ok, scrap Hello Goodbye)

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I think if I was ranking 1967 Beatles songs, 'Penny Lane' would be about a third of the way down from the top. Pretty sure the Beatles track I actually voted for has no chance of making the list but never mind.

Gavin in Leeds, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83fpEaEET7k

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

not that i voted for it, but elanor rigby is marvelous, just as DJP says. penny lane's great too, but much further down the list of beatles songs i might have voted for, but didn't.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd have voted for "Elanor Rigby", "I Am The Walrus", "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Within You Without You". Maybe also "I Want To Hold Your Hand".

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

never heard that Clash track before. The worst part of late Beatles is its preciousness and Penny Lane is one of the biggest offenders. It's the kind of track made for a list like this but I would never listen to it by myself.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

1:44!!!

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

(ok, 1:45)

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

outdoor miner is a good song.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I love that the "extended" version of Outdoor Miner still isn't even 3 minutes long.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

The worst part of late Beatles is its preciousness and Penny Lane is one of the biggest offenders.

See? I think they got UNprecious again in 1968 and onwards to the end. 1967 was entirely too precious, though.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I love that the "extended" version of Outdoor Miner still isn't even 3 minutes long.

Ha! Yeah. Didn't vote for it but nice to see it place.

Gavin in Leeds, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

You're right JF. Hey Bulldog and a ton of the White Album are definitely not precious. I probably should have voted for that or Lady Madonna now that I think about it...

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Best thing about Penny Lane is that you can polka to it if you'd like.

Ignore Me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

If that's the very best thing about it...

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFrGuyw1V8s

(I really wish someone would've nom'ed "Knowing Me, Knowing You" so I could've voted for ABBA.)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Waaay to low!!!!

daavid, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Overexposed but it deserves to be here.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Waaay to low!!!!

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

John McCain's favorite song is reportedly "Dancing Queen."

Ignore Me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I love "Dancing Queen" as much as anybody does, especially when I break it down in my head ("I love that part...oh wait, I love THAT part too!"). I guess if you had to sum up ABBA's identity in a single track, "Dancing Queen" is probably that track.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

It seems too low, but ABBA may have had a bit of vote splitting. I, for one, voted for a different ABBA track over it, though it was probably mostly due to the overplaying of "Dancing Queen". Glad to see it here.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Much of this list is just the more popular songs of artists I voted for (foggy notion, whatever biggie I voted for etc.)

This list is kinda disappointing IMO. Was hoping it would look less like mojo arranged it, down to the token non classic rock choices.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Dancing Queen is terrific and ABBA break my heart

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - Kind of agree, kind of don't. Anyway, I blame the voters.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The ways lists like these are great: We find validation in knowing that other people like the things we like.
The ways lists like these aren't great: Things a lot of people like a little aren't as varied as the things people like a whole lot.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Hard to blame the voters, the canon choices are the ones that have to make it in a consensus list like this. Everybody has their own idiosyncratic choices, but what makes them non-canon is that by definition not a lot of people are going to vote for them.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - It's just that this always happens because the intersection between everyone's tastes is similar to the "canon". I wish there was less classic rock too, though.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

oh c'mon y'all. almost nothing on this list so far isn't awesome; and besides there are 86 songs left to go so hold yr butthurtness for a few minutes ok?

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

The individual lists are always more interesting to me than the consensus list for projects like this, IMO.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

85. (TIE) AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVzYxqG9N1c

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I need a suit like Mr. Green's!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

For a canon/consensus list, I think this one is way above average.

xp- See!

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I voted "Love and Happiness" instead, but it was a tough choice.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted "Belle". This is still great.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

what's interesting to me are the ways a more personal ILX canon peeks out from within the larger list of agreed-upon classics. like "word up", "i'm not in love", "linus & lucy", "outdoor miner" acing "penny line", that kind of thing. even when i'm not crazy about the songs in question.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, should i have avoided voting for certain tracks due to my suspicion that they might appeal to the hated mojo readership?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"Penny Lane" was one of the few Beatles songs on my longer shortlist and is one of the few Paul McCartney songs I can stomach. I didn't vote for any Beatles in the end, but "A Day in the Life," "Happiness Is a Warm Gun," "She Said She Said," & "Strawberry Fields Forever" were the others I considered. I probably would have voted for "Nowhere Man" if it had been nominated.

Kent Burt, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for one Beatles track, hopefully it will make it.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Overdosed on Outdoor Miner a while ago (the extended version btw which I believe was the single). Still a good song

Don't care at all for Abba but dig Dancing Queen

Love The Clash of course, voted Train In Vain.

This is probably the last showing for Reverend Green. Way too low. Voted "Here I Am" so I take some of the blame.

I'm very afraid of the Beatles at this point. We should have made an agreement to all vote only "No Reply"

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

This list is definitely more idiosyncratic than any music magazine's would be, but at the same time there is also only so much it can diverge from one as well, because taken in aggregate people just tend to appreciate the same shit. Blame society!

Ignore Me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

'Smells Like Teen Spirit' didn't even crack the all-time metal tracks top hundred poll, so I'm pleased to see us doing right by it here.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

85. (TIE) IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,299 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDHdleEX6-s

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Maybe because it's not metal?

daavid, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

had to happen i guess, even with the ridiculous number of Stooges songs nominated

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

No lie. First time I ever heard this song was in a Nike commercial.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

outdoor miner too low. don't think i'll ever tire of it - certainly not in the way i'm sick to death of smells like teen spirit and penny lane.

yeah, search and destroy is pretty damn cool. i remember it kicked my ass the first time i heard it.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes! Was worried this was going to get vote split out of the top 100.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

we used to play this track over and over again on the free jukebox in the basement of the college Jewish center after smuggling in 40s to pregame and play pool in their game room. Memories!

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

still hoping for either of the funhouse tracks i spent my stooge money on

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Very surprisingly not bad cover of "Search and Destroy"? EMF.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

84. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRfz5f6HZW0

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess "Penny Lane" in the Top 100 means "Strawberry Fields Forever" will do even better. Which is good.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

killer run!

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I love "Into the Groove" so so so much, but I really wish I could've voted for "Papa Don't Preach" (it wasn't nominated).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Second song I voted for to make it. THE 80's disco masterpiece? Or is it actually "Holiday" (not nominated!!)?

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, this and Holiday are my favourite Madonnas. Can't remember whether I voted for it though.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Into the Groove, the best Madonna song?

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

In the case of "Into The Groove", I didn't vote for it, but it's a great song. I would say the only case where Stephen Bray really got his production right.
I guess my main problem about Stephen Bray is that he is not quite pop and not quite dance, instead sitting in-between ending up with a style that is neither fish nor flesh, and also sounding very dated today (although "Into The Groove" is again one obvious exception). I prefer a more one-directional approach, like the dance producers that IMO have done the best work for Madonna have been Reggie Lucas, Jellybean, William Orbit, Mirwais and Stuart Price. Whereas Patrick Leonard is the one that more than anyone else managed to get her pop style right (particularly on the "Like a Prayer" albums). And, also Nile Rodgers (he may be more famous for his dance oriented work, but I would say his work on the "Like a Virgin" is more pop than dance).

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

(And I may be the only one in the world who thinks this, but I think Madonna peaked with the medley of "Dear Jessie" and "Oh Father" ;) )

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

This has been an amazing run.

I voted for Outdoor Miner, wonder if that will their only entry?

Can't remember which Madonna was nominated now, Burning Up is my favourite song of hers.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

on Into the Groove, I can never decide between the single and the album version. The edit is obviously tighter once it gets going but the introduction is not very effective IMO.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh Father still boggles my mind with regard to it being released as a single (was it successful? I don't recall.) It's in a non-standard time signature, not at all a happy song, and a very subdued arrangement, even for a ballad. That was at the point in time when Madonna could do anything she damn well pleased, though.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, loving this last run, poll is definitely getting better as it goes.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

This next on is the oldest song in the top 125, but could very well be the most beautiful...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

83. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gElTKhbnQxU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Oh Father wasn't released as a single here in the UK until 1995 when she put out the Something To Remember compilation, it was a very small hit.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

YES! Should have placed top 10 but YES!

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh excellent, how can you not like this?

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get voting for a single movement of a larger work/putting pop songs and classical pieces on the same level.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Wasn't feeling this section of the list so much but am definitely happy to see something from the early section of the century place.

emil.y, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I do! Clair De Lune was my #1.

mormon's marmots (crüt), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

"Outdoor Miner"--did Robert Pollard listen to that song about 150 million times after teaching his 4th graders and before basketball and beer, or what?

ellaguru, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

This is 3 consecutive songs that I voted for, at #9 (Clair De Lune), #27 (Into the Groove) and #55 (Search and Destroy). Awesome.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, I believe this is the first track with a 1st place vote to show up, though there were a total of 71 first place votes handed out. I suspect that my first place voted song may not be in the top 125 at all.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get voting for a single movement of a larger work

This is the argument I had with Dan. Would you vote for Dark Side of the Moon when all you really meant to vote for was "Money"? Nope. And if you want to vote for Dark Side of the Moon in its entirety, wait for an album poll.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get voting for a single movement of a larger work/putting pop songs and classical pieces on the same level.

As for the second part, I get that it's problematic but it's certainly possible to enjoy classical pieces with non-classical (i.e. "popular") ears - and that's the approach I take when contextualising Debussy's appearance here. Something like a Morricone soundtrack is somewhere in between worlds, for example.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of which I hope Morricone shows up. I know I voted for one of his noms.

Ignore Me! (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

99% of people who have heard "Clair de lune" have not heard the rest of the suite so why wouldn't you just consider "Clair de lune" on its own

mormon's marmots (crüt), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I have to admit I more or less overlooked the classical ones here, but if there is one classical work from the 20th century that deserves to be in the list, then "Clair De Lune" is it.

Note that the video link is of Ravel's "cover version". Debussy composed the piece for solo piano while it was orchestrated by Ravel. I prefer the Ravel version though (and... oh.... and Tomita's synth version ;) )

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

xp

because it means treating classical music like it was pop music (ignore me, I don't really want to talk about this)

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't realize that about Ravel. I too prefer the full orchestrated version.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

82. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-PekYHpdrs

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

fo' real? does this mean 4 Prince songs in the top 125, or no Little Red Corvette?

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

'Clair de Lune', hell the 4 pieces on the Suite Bergamasque for the matter are pretty much composed as a collection of pop songs.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

ILM <3 Prince 4 EVA

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

but if there is one classical work from the 20th century that deserves to be in the list, then "Clair De Lune" is it.
Was "Rhapsody In Blue" on the list?

kate78, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

^ Yes.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

81. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR41KvzcyLY

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

1984...1985...whatever.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Not so excited about this one.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't remember whether or not I voted for The Smiths (I don't think I did), but it would've been this track.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yes! happy to see how soon is now well and truly inside the top 100.

i've had relatively good returns today so far. voted for al green, wire (my #2), debussy and now the smiths. i have another smiths song that i ranked even higher. i wonder if it will chart.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

voted for this one--not the best Smiths song but that guitar is incredible.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't really think of a madonna song i like better than 'in the groove', so if she had to place somewhere i'm happy enough with that choice.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

80. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-RzGkDPioM

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Hopla! Voted "Only Shallow" but happy to see you here.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

thing got male/gay/smart/indie suddenly

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

ha! in my mind I always reference the reverb-soaked guitar intro of 'how soon is now' with 'kiss'... then comes MBV and tells em both how it's properly done.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ relieved this didn't place higher

xps

mormon's marmots (crüt), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I would take Sometimes, I Only Said, and Shallow over Soon, but I'm OK with this.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, all three of these songs rely on cool guitar sounds

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxp I mean

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

10/100 songs in my ballot so far.... hope I can crank it up to 30 by the end of the countdown:

Claude Debussy — Clair de Lune (Suite Bergamasque)
Iggy and The Stooges — Search and Destroy
Kraftwerk — Computer Love
Miles Davis — Shhh/Peaceful
My Bloody Valentine — Soon
Pixies — Debaser
Prince and The Revolution — Kiss
Ron Grainer and Delia Derbyshire — Theme from "Dr. Who"
Stan Getz and Astrud Gilberto — Girl From Ipanema
Stereolab — Jenny Ondioline

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

haha this is ILM showing its colors now for sure...

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought there would be quite a few Prince songs in this list but I can only really see When Doves Cry being higher than Kiss. Maybe Sign 'O' The Times?

I only voted for one Smiths song that will hopefully appear higher up. How Soon Is Now is a great song but it wouldn't be in my top ten favourite Smiths songs.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

This next one is a sample source for quite a few other songs...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

79. LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlPjlFQQ3fs

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Damn I was gonna guess "Between the Sheets"

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I've had 8 of my songs show up so far, though only one of my top 20.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Only two Prince songs I really care about are 'Strawberry Beret' and 'Kiss'. The former wasn't nominated so went with the latter. Wouldn't be surprised if this is the last we see of him on the poll. After all 'Kiss' won his singles poll they did over two years ago.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Little Red Corvette!!!!!!

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah I voted for this one as well! Can we get a little bit of krautrock or new wave next please?

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah I voted for this one as well! Can we get a little bit of krautrock or new wave next please?

This will prove to be hilarious in a few minutes.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

haha levee was my #84, so that matches up kind of nicely. amazing song and very deserving.

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

xp: I knew it! :D

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't vote for any Led Zeppelin, since I thought the choices nominated was a very poor set. This was the best of the nominees though.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not the biggest Zep fan but voted for this because of the drums and the guitar segment just before the vocals. It manages to be propulsive and lazy at the same time. Now that I'm listening closely the instrumentation in the middle is also really good. There's a ton going on.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't believe no-one nommed "Strawberry Beret".

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

my personal favourite of prince's fruit hat cycle

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I prefer "Kumquat Fedora"

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

'mixed berry beret' has a little something for everyone i've always felt

charlie h, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Why can I never find one in a second-hand store?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

78. NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,315 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhNDKZmxRLM

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

shocked soon is so low seeing as last time ILM did an all-time poll it came #1!

such an amazing run of songs so far.

prolego, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I was wondering when New Order would appear. I'm really glad to see Ceremony make it but I didn't vote for it, I did have three other songs of theirs on my list.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Only 13 votes? Would have thought this would have been on everyone's ballot.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

hocked soon is so low seeing as last time ILM did an all-time poll it came #1!

It placed #1 in the shoegaze thread... are you confused or is there really another one of these in existence?

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

psyched to see "kiss" in the top 100, though it should (of course) have gone much, much higher. "clair de lune" too, though i didn't vote for that, shame on me. bummed about callow upstarts like the smiths, new order and MBV placing on the same level, but it was inevitable, this being ILX and ILX's tastes being frightfully narrow/predictable. "how soon is now" is easily my favorite smiths song, so hooray for that. hooray as well for "into the groove", the best madonna song that isn't "like a prayer" or "hung up".

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

List got awesome plus zeppelin

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

77. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,327 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6221XuMGFk

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for 'age of consent' instead of 'ceremony'. Twas my second choice but in the end I decided I would try to vote for only one song per artist, apologies for not helping it rank higher and thank you to everyone who voted for it.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

xp: lol

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

hocked soon is so low seeing as last time ILM did an all-time poll it came #1!

It placed #1 in the shoegaze thread... are you confused or is there really another one of these in existence?

― Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris)

I think it also placed #1 on the 90s singles poll that was made a couple years ago.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i also voted for other New Order track(s)....probably just Bizarre Love Triangle.

And YES to another Kraftwerk.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

So far 2 Kraftwerk songs compared to 1 from The Beatles. Awesome. Hope that ratio stays the same.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

It placed #1 in the shoegaze thread... are you confused or is there really another one of these in existence?

yeah, I made a mistake - it was Loveless that won the ILM top record poll:

ILM Top 100 Records -- The Full List

prolego, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't vote for any New Order though I'm glad to see 'Ceremony' there. Steven Morris's drumming is amazing. I think I had 'Regret' on my longlist but cut it fairly early - was surprised to realise it was my favourite track of theirs (that was nominated anyway, I love 'Confusion' loads and loads).

There's a Trans-Europe Express cafe in Glasgow, but I haven't been in.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't remember if I voted for "The Perfect Kiss" or even if it was nom'd. I get chills when that comes on, every time.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Yay for "Ceremony". I generally went one-song-per-artist too but still had 3 New Order tracks when I finished whittling down. Kerrazy.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

That "Top 100 Records" list predates me, and some other people around here I'd presume, so I honestly didn't even know it existed (that I can remember).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope "Regret" and "True Faith" also make it. Probably wasted a vote with "World In Motion" though.

daavid, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

thrilled to "see trans-europe express" in the top 100, though that too was inevitable. spent all my kraftwerk points on "autobahn", which i have to imagine will do quite well.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

76. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp2xGaDuF20

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

'Trans Europe Express' takes my count up to three, I believe.

xpost yay, more Kraftwerk!

emil.y, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Although actually boo that's probably it for Kraftwerk. Surely they should have a song higher up than 75?

emil.y, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

That's all for today! To recap:

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]

99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin" (1967) [1,231 points, 11 votes]
97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
91. (TIE) TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
91. (TIE) THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
85. (TIE) AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. (TIE) IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
84. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
83. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
82. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
81. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
80. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
78. NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,315 points, 13 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,327 points, 14 votes]
76. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

So Autobahn is 0.3% better than Trans-Europe Express. Good to have that sorted out!

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

hmmm, think I voted for six of the first 50...

falkor johnson (askance johnson), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder if anything will score 1,337 points?

emil.y, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Beginning to think that O Superman is going to be the only other song I voted for to place

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

lol speak of the devil! considerably lower ranked than i'd have expected/hoped, though. (re: "autobahn")

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll be very cross if 'O Superman' doesn't make it.

emil.y, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

O Superman will be top 20

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I am hoping for Duke Ellington (something, anything by him) and Patsy Cline.

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i have faith in "o superman"

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Robot germAn awesomeness.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

While I like most all the songs that have placed so far, I'm very bummed at how badly the first half of the century has been ignored.

Apart from "Clair de Lune," Johnny Cash is as far back as we go. Old things are still to come, but not enough imo.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I really hope something by Louis Armstrong places.

falkor johnson (askance johnson), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

feel real alienated by this mad Kraftwerk love. Three songs?? Autobahn?

good to great songs by Prince, The Smiths, My Bloody Valentine and New Order but nothing to match that Mott-VU-Biggie-Dylan-Nirvana-Cameo-Creedence-Toots run.

quite an anticlimactic finish for me actually

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

With you there. Three Kraftwerk songs is excessive. My own list would feature exactly zero.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

YMO >>>>>>>>>>> Kraftwerk

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

xp
mine did include exactly that much

forgot too mention that the Zep track is also,obviously, good

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

it might also be the closest blues relative to feature on the list. really hope that's not the case

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I really hope something by Louis Armstrong places.

― falkor johnson (askance johnson), Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no chance as there were about 10 noms

xavi hoarder type (whatever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

am personally finding this list relatively boring but then I was always going to :D

'rumble' upthread was pure blues ffs

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

also much better than led zep haha

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted for one of them cos to ignore him would be daft but it would have been better if there had been just one nomination

xavi hoarder type (whatever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

fwiw, I think the 99-76 segment of the list is the least diverse/interesting part of the results. Fun to be had tomorrow!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I love Kraftwerk but only voted for Autobahn. Personally, I think every artist that gets three in the top 125 is overrepresented.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

it might also be the closest blues relative to feature on the list. really hope that's not the case

There's Voodoo Child too obv.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

well I am pretty stoked then JF! :)

this happens every time, really - there's a slightly mundane, overtly conventional-canonical stretch and then shit starts kicking off

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, glad you said that Johnny, as I found 99-76 fairly boring myself.

Do agree that three tracks in a top 125 is too much, but would rather have three Kraftwerk songs than three Beatles ones.

emil.y, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Only ones I voted for in the last batch was Toots and Iggy.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

there will be way more than three beatles songs...

skip, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

'rumble' upthread was pure blues ffs
― rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:50 PM

Love "Rumble" as I stated earlier. But if it remains the closest thing to both blues and rock and roll to make it I'll die a little inside.

And yes, I can see Johnny Cash is there which is giving me dark ideas about country too.

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Ignore the elitist ramblin'. Democracy is to blame

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm beginning to suspect that there's a lot of songs I assumed would make it that won't and that I'm going to be pissed. Oh well, only time will tell!

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I was only alive for 11 years in this century and had just about got to know my sisters copies of life after death and 12 play. After another 10 years I have made it a lot further but fuck off have I had enough time to go through the 78s from the 20s

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

you don't have time for music?

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

looks like a great list to me so far. only grumble i have is directed at ILX's sometimes constricted penchant for stylish/atmospheric guitar & electronic pop from the mid 70s through early 90s (especially when it can be said to have influenced certain contemporary indie & dance genres), but that tendency has only been pronounced in the last few entries. and i went for a few of those sounds myself, so it's hard to get too worked up about it.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I have a theory that lots of people had a bunch of early 20th century stuff in their long lists but a lot of it eventually got cut in favor of music they have more emotional connections to (ie, stuff that they experienced first hand when it was released). I have maintained from before the voting began that this poll would be dominated by the 70s and 80s.

Personally, only a small handful of stuff before the 60s made it into my final ballot and I don't think they were very "consensus" votes at that.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

possible. I didn't experience any of these tracks when they were recorded so I constructed and hoped for a more balanced list.

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost:

i get that, but i think it has more to do with youth and inexperience than distance from the material. i mean, i'm older than most ILXors, i think, and i still only put like 10 pre-50s songs on my ballot. otoh, there's lots of 50s-60s stuff on there, and that's well before my time. to be honest, i didn't start paying serious attention to music until the late 70s.

thing is, when i was in my 20s, i'm sure my ballot would have been geared much more strongly towards the music of that moment, my moment, along with its then-recent precedents. for one thing, i just didn't know much (pre-internet era, remember, when broad expertise came at a premium). for another, my passions, biases and convictions about the arts, for all their youthful ignorance, burned very brightly. i think this is true for many young people, especially those who care strongly about music. they may not know everything, but they know what they care about, and they're quite willing to throw down for it.

as i've gotten older, i've realized that a great deal of my favorite music actually predates my own life, sometimes by quite a long time, and it's not bound by any particular style or tradition. in concert with this, i've become much less committed to the aesthetic ideologies and genre affiliations that once so clearly defined my tastes. certain nostalgic predilections do express themselves, but i try not to let them run rampant.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

FFS no more Kraftwerk, please!!

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Kraftwerk, Group Of The Century

^I actually agree with this, sort of.

daavid, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

@Johnny Fever - I just sent you an email, not sure whether you check that address so I'm posting a heads-up here.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"...i still only put like 10 pre-50s songs on my ballot"

at most (quoting myself there). do wish i'd saved it, if only to square my story with reality.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i can actually think of another kraftwerk track that's begging to make the top 75. i think about four tracks is the right kind of representation for such a strong act with so much high quality material.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

But at the expense of other artists missing out completely?

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

@contenderizer: I can send you your ballot if you want.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

charlie h is right. there probably aren't more than 25 groups or artists who've made worthwhile music in the 20th century anyway.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

ffs. and YES, i would love you to all kinds of horrible death if you'd send me my ballot, seandalai! thanks.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

20th century is my favorite century for music :(

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

12th century for me

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

@contenderizer: I sent it to your ILX webmail thing.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I love plainchant xp

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Ye Cure's best track iirc

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks, seandalai.

Okay y'all, there was a slight tabulation mistake that would shift some results around slightly, but not change what's in and what's out of the top 125 at all. So you shouldn't be seeing "Search and Destroy" yet, as it's actually #73. I hope you can live with this grievous error, ILM. seandalai and me are incredibly sorry!! ;)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

'Search & Destroy' got shafted by errors in the metal poll too - something like no.11 when it should've been top 5

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

All my fault.

xp - ha!

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Ye Cure's best track iirc

ha!

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link

so is the reshuffling of "search and destroy" the only signficant change to what we've already seen? did a bunch more kraftwerk songs get in or something?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

That's it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i can think of a few bands who i would be happy to see feature quite heavily - talking heads is definitely one along with kraftwerk, and from what i can tell there's going to be plenty more talking heads featured in this poll. i'm much more interested in seeing the best songs represented from the truly great artists of the century than scratching my head at arbitrary one-offs from second-tier types.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

xps The Curé

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Full disclosure: Cortez the Killer was 110 instead of 108, Linus and Lucy was 92 instead of joint 91, Ceremony was joint with When the Levee Breaks instead of just ahead of it.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link

prediction for #1: sumthing beetles

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

hey, thanks for sending me my ballot, seandalai. looking it over, i'm mortified to note that only about a third of my votes are pre-1970, and only 8 are pre-1950. the remainder, the vast majority are from the last three decades of the 20th century, flatly contradicting any claim that i've moved beyond the shallow passions of my youth. i suppose if i'd given myself less than half an our to work out my ballot on the last day of voting, i might have pushed myself out of that comfort zone, but i dunno. the earlier, abandoned version of my ballot wasn't much more catholic, and i spend several days pecking at it.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i can think of a few bands who i would be happy to see feature quite heavily - talking heads is definitely one along with kraftwerk, and from what i can tell there's going to be plenty more talking heads featured in this poll. i'm much more interested in seeing the best songs represented from the truly great artists of the century than scratching my head at arbitrary one-offs from second-tier types.

― charlie h, Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

fine, but one could easily make the case that kraftwerk and talking heads are 2nd tier nobodys relative to the likes of carl orff, claude debussy, duke ellington, miles davis, the beatles, and at least a couple hundred others. many of whom won't get a single track in the final list. (no thanks to me.)

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Figure I should spare Johnny the effort of fixing my mistake:

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,196 points, 11 votes]
109. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
108. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]

99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin" (1967) [1,231 points, 11 votes]
97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
86. AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
82. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
79. (TIE) NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,327 points, 14 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Just realised that 'Clair de Lune' being earliest means that 'The Entertainer' has missed the 100 :( Where'd it end up, JF?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm fine with more Kraftwerk as long as there is room for the fourteen Fall songs nominated...

Kent Burt, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

among ilm's "alternative" favorites I would actually prefer The Fall and Saint Etienne to dominate the list. At least they are idiosyncratic in an exciting way and are way to obscure and weird to ever become true canon. The deification of that banal Kraftwerk eccentricity is beyond me. They are just so harmless and fluffy. And yes, I like them but this feels ridiculous

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link

one could easily make the case that kraftwerk and talking heads are 2nd tier nobodys relative to the likes of carl orff, claude debussy, duke ellington, miles davis, the beatles, and at least a couple hundred others

REAL TALK

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link

And like gs just said, I like both Kraftwerk and Talking Heads, but I refuse to believe that people worship their genius the way some ILM polls seem to suggest.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Can I say something?

As a casual Beatles fan I don't care if 1967 was mamsy-pamsy flower power hour. "Penny Lane" is top tier Beatles. Feel good vibes just happen to be a side-effect.

This was the only Beatles song I voted for

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Just realised that 'Clair de Lune' being earliest means that 'The Entertainer' has missed the 100 :( Where'd it end up, JF?

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:01 PM

522. Scott Joplin - The Entertainer (553 points, 6 votes)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I almost worship Talking Heads but anything beyond two songs by them (which seems realistic with Once In A Lifetime in mind) on a list like this would look bad to me. This Must Be The Place even feels like pushing it, but I love the song so won't complain. my ballot was Heads-less

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

started (continued?) talking bullshit here. time for sleep.

shame about The Entertainer but damn that's a big list.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Once the results are done I'm gonna start ranting on people who voted canon instead of from their heart. There's a lot of good quotes I can dig up from the nominations thread and maybe one quote from this thread...

Anyways, "Smells Like Team Spirit" is hardly the best Nirvana nomination. In fact, it was the only Nirvana nomination I didn't vote for. Historically it was no better than "Lounge Act" from the same album so we can say fuck historical importance and popularity be damned

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, nineteen years removed from its overexposure, "Teen Spirit" is still one of my top 3 or 4 Nirvana songs. That's where cultural significance would swing my vote one way or the other...I like it already, so picking it against "Serve the Servants" or something wouldn't bother my heart a bit.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

12 so far, baby.

123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades"
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run"
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)"
98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin"
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue"
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son"
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy"
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop"
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner"
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon"
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks"

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Xp
so would pooping on your face

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link

hmmm, that's definitely a good point contenderizer. never really did like orff that much, but yeah the likes of debussy, stravinsky, miles, coltrane, mingus, ellington, coleman, thelonious monk are absolutely top shelf, and probably only a very select few acts from outside the, say, classical and jazz realm are in the same league. but i do think the likes of kraftwerk and talking heads are up there with them. it's just a question of contextualising things.

on another note, i really hope we'll start seeing some roxy music soon.

as much as i love nirvana (historically speaking), it never occurred to me to vote for them.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Poop on my face WOULD hurt my heart. And my dignity.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

boriginal is gonna slay up this list pretty soon fwiw

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Xp
My mistake :(

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link

neurosis should crack the top 50

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link

To add to this debate, I just want to say I would be outraged if garbage from hacks like Louis Armstrong and Frank Sinatra make the list instead of This Heat

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha well Purify got at LEAST 158 points :D xp

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i think initially i had a mind to vote for it, but it got culled at some point. 'locust star' or hell, even 'under the surface' or 'the last you'll know' could have easily made it.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp And if Charlie "Whothefuckis" Parker bumped the Funky Cold Medina off the list there's gonna be a lotta SBs handed out.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

The deification of that banal Kraftwerk eccentricity is beyond me. They are just so harmless and fluffy. And yes, I like them but this feels ridiculous

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need to impressive a girl? (Z S), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

(don't agree, but lol anyway)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

'flexfit technology' shd be the next kraftwerk album-title y/n

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it night-time there in Inglund? Where's the next rezzult?

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link

@contenderizer: I can send you your ballot if you want.

― seandalai, Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:22 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Can you send mine as well?

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link

It is, but I'm in Florida (where it's also night-time). Next rezzult comes tomorrow.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link

skip, I just sent it via ilx mail.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

haha, thanks. That is a way cheesier list than I remember submitting.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link

There should be another poll where we get to vote again, only using the songs that didn't make the top 125.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Then we can wittle it down to the best worst song ever.

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks, seandalai.

Okay y'all, there was a slight tabulation mistake that would shift some results around slightly, but not change what's in and what's out of the top 125 at all. So you shouldn't be seeing "Search and Destroy" yet, as it's actually #73. I hope you can live with this grievous error, ILM. seandalai and me are incredibly sorry!! ;)

― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever)

All for the better! Excited to see what happens tomorrow. I don't really disagree with what has made it so far but I'd love to see a little less canon and little more obscure. Something old new for me. Also more jazz, soul and punk and less dadrock.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

But what I really want to know is how predictable and variable will the top 20 be?

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Will we get several dark horses JF? I'm in love with those.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

15 out of the top 25 are artists who don't otherwise appear in the countdown. Do with that information what you will.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I wasn't following today, but nicely done. Of all the songs so far, the only one I had an instantaneous "Really?" reaction to as I scrolled through was "Kiss." Not sure why--it's not awful or anything, I just never cared for it at all. I think four of mine have been listed so far. Did The Larry Sanders Show get any votes? I still want that to win something.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

15 out of the top 25 are artists who don't otherwise appear in the countdown. Do with that information what you will.

― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever)

I really like the sound of that. Even if they end up being boring choices it's a relief to know the responsibles wont be represented elsewhere.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmmm I wonder how close I'd be if I made a list of predictions... I will try it when we get to 50 :P

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway wanted to say I like this poll. Even if most of the results haven't been particulary exciting for me I love having no effing idea of what will come up next.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link

re charlie h. above: didn't mean to imply that i view talking heads and kraftwerk as "2nd tier" relative to anyone, only that it takes a particular mindset & taste to put them on par with the great classical & jazz composers/performers of the early to mid 20th century (to say nothing of the canonized gods of gospel, the blues, country & western music, folk of whatever sort, rhythm & blues, soul, early and "classic" rock, and countless other forms not native to the UK or US).

personally, i'm as fond of the talking heads as any musical artist i know of, and it's strange to me that not a single one of their songs wound up on my ballot, despite the fact that i made room for "autobahn" by kraftwerk, a band that means a good deal less to me. not that i'd change that vote, but strange nonetheless.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Might seem ridiculous to some (ok, all) but I'd like to see "Oops, I Did It Again" show up on this list. It's really, to me, THE iconic 90's radio-played pop song. If it was even on the ballot - but anyway.

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

nine i have stooped to elevate:

MOTÖRHEAD - "Ice of Spides"
STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO - "The Girl From Ipanema"
N.W.A - "Straight Outta Compton"
RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE - "Theme From 'Dr. Who'"
KING CRIMSON - "21st Century Schizoid Man"
THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO - "Linus and Lucy"
CAMEO - "Word Up"
PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION - "Kiss"
KRAFTWERK - "Autobahn"

odd list. not sure what they have in common other than that i love them all and wouldn't rush to defend their importance. it seems that i have a pronounced taste for funky pop. and dreamy abstraction. and ice spides.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I will one day release an album called "Ice of Spides."

MumblestheRevelator, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link

15 out of the top 25 are artists who don't otherwise appear in the countdown.

I am a lineman for the county....

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I'm to blame for Armstrong not making the countdown. Still, it looked impressive on the nominations list. And I can't shout too loud at people for not giving more love to pre-rock pop, since I included only 14 pre-1950 tracks on my ballot.

MumblestheRevelator, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 06:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I am a lineman for the county....

i dont give a fuck what the results say, this is #1

billstevejim, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Looking forward to the joke results like Jordy showing up at #7.

Not looking forward to someone posting "FUCK YOU" following a predictable canon entry in the top 10.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link

a strange thing i notice about the 9 songs i voted for that have made the cut is that they're almost all from the 60s and 80s, 4 from each decade, with "autobahn" as the lone mid-70s exception. means nothing, i'm sure, but it's fun to look for patterns in the intersection of tastes.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link

kornrulez6969 is much more indebted to rock canon than i am, no surprise, and our lists intersect only at their poles of violence and notalgia, abandon and tranquility: motorhead and vince guaraldi.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Eight of mine:

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 07:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I would like Nirvana 20% more if they were named (Tie) Nirvana.

mormon's marmots (crüt), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link

30% more if they were (Thai) Nirvana.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 07:26 (thirteen years ago) link

40% less if they were named (Teh) Nirvana

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 07:35 (thirteen years ago) link

800% more if they were named A Tiny Van

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 07:37 (thirteen years ago) link

116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]

These are the only ones of mine to show up yet, but I'm happy "Clair de lune", "Word Up", "Into the Groove", "Pressure Drop", and Kraftwerk made the list, even though they didn't fit my ballot. I'm beginning to doubt any of my top 10 will make the list, except possibly "The Creator Has a Master Plan" or "Milord".

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 08:02 (thirteen years ago) link

15 out of the top 25 are artists who don't otherwise appear in the countdown. Do with that information what you will.

Snap! and Boots Randolph for the top 10! (I voted for both.)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 08:05 (thirteen years ago) link

with you on "the creator has a master plan". keep the faith, brother.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

"Penny Lane" was also the only Beatles track that I voted for, as per Captain Lorax upthread. Both head and heart were in agreement on that one.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 08:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I gave 'Penny Lane' a vote but I think that's the only one of mine to show yesterday. I should certainly have voted for 'Word Up', possibly the sheer machoness of that codpiece and pirouetting policeman put me off. And 'Clair de Lune' is gorgeous.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 09:11 (thirteen years ago) link

why would a cod piece put off anyone?

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Re Talking Heads - I certainly don't object to their placing on the list, though almost none of my favourites were nominated ("Stay Hungry", "I Zimbra", "Take Me To The River", "Life During Wartime"). Voted "Born Under Punches" in the end.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I might've voted for "Lifetime Piling Up" in addition to my vote for "Naive Melody," but I'm pretty sure I'd be alone.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Ehh...I take that back. I wouldn't have. But I should have nominated it anyway.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

great results thus far; and i only voted for 4 of them (i think).

btw, the good Rev Green just reupholstered my vagina via that u-toob clip.

thankin' u, Al.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

A good friend of mine attended the rev's church earlier in the year and was berated by him from the pulpit for his gangly looks and pale complexion: "You with the big ears! You is stickin' out like a sore thumb!"

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm gonna do a few earlier than usual today, anyone mind? No? Okay. Commencing in 15 minutes or so...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

To recap (with adjustments)

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin" (1967) [1,231 points, 11 votes]
97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
86. AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
82. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
79. (TIE) NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,325 points, 14 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Hoping that 'Search and Destroy' will turn up soon tbh.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 11:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Dunno, I think vote-splitting might have doomed the Stooges vote.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 11:53 (thirteen years ago) link

No, I've got a good feeling about that one song.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess we'll find out...

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v--IqqusnNQ

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Bowie was the only person I gave two votes to, and neither were for this song. But: it's a great song!

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice enough, but the Barbra Streisand cover version beats Bowie's original.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Barbra has a cover of this? I usually don't learn so much so early in the morning. (Now I'm off to track it down.)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, and it's awesome!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

that's cuz the song itself is awesome

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

formally, it is perfect. like a diamond

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh, I'm not all that familiar with this song. My Bowie knowledge is totally superficial except for the Berlin albums and Heathen/Reality.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

it's all about the dialectical development from the first (ironic-pathetic) chorus to the second (legitimately triumphant) one... "Shady Lane" by Pavement is kind of a spiritual successor in this regard

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link

The crazy revenge story behind "Life on Mars?"

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

^ That just reminded me that no version of "My Way" was nominated. WTF!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I've always thought "My Way" is kind of a bore, there are lots of Sinatra classics more deserving to be in the top 100 than it.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-3djUYgebU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Love this - I first heard it via a cover by the short-lived Uilab, only discovered last year that it was a cover.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link

got yr mail, IK. Thanks for the tip.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, the smugness and the shameless glorification of the "maverick" in the lyrics has always made "My Way" kind of dislikeable to me. (Even the small concession of "regrets, I've had a few" has to be followed by "but then again, too few to mention"). Sparks' "When Do I Get to Sing 'My Way'?" (which I nominated but has little chance of making to the top 100) is such a wonderful deconstruction of the cliches in that song.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I first heard it via a cover by the short-lived Uilab

Same here. Heard Eno's version right around the same time, though. Still think I prefer the cover.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Great start to the list today. That was the Eno song I went with in the end but I could have gone for a few of the others nominated, especially Third Uncle.

I only nominated one Bowie song that I don't think will place.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"My Way" has worked its way into the culture in ways that are entirely opposite of its intent, though. It's almost always performed in a sarcastic manner now (a twist I think was originated by Sid Vicious).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Sparks' "When Do I Get to Sing 'My Way'?" (which I nominated but has little chance of making to the top 100) is such a wonderful deconstruction of the cliches in that song.

― Tuomas, Wednesday, December 1, 2010 12:28 PM (1 minute ago)

I actually gave this a decent amount of points, don't think it has much chance of placing though. I voted for two Sparks songs, I was really hoping they might sneak in somewhere.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

This last stretch of 10 songs or so is not one I'm too excited about. All pretty good songs, though not the best Bowie or Eno by far.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

"My Way" has worked its way into the culture in ways that are entirely opposite of its intent, though. It's almost always performed in a sarcastic manner now (a twist I think was originated by Sid Vicious).

But isn't Sid Vicious supposed to be one of finest examples in rock mythology of the sort of devil-may-care individualism "My Way" glorifies? I haven't heard his version of the tune, but I doubt his fans see it as a sarcastic statement.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, I'm not aware of any well-known interpretation of "My Way" that would twist the message in the lyrics. Can you give me some more examples?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I was about to say "St. Elmos Fire" better than "Life On Mars?" WTF!!! but then I noticed it was Brian Eno and not John Parr. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link

xp oh, none in particular. It's just that whenever you see it done in a movie or at a karaoke bar, it's usually being sung by some completely wasted dude with his pants unbuttoned and mustard stains on his shirt.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link

74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USJq2RwnlyU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd wager that's in most cases it's unintentional irony then, I assume the dude singing it still means the lyrics to be for real.

(x-post)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

At least the people I've seen singing it in karaoke bars have felt pretty sincere about the message.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Crazy Kraftwerk/Bowie/Eno/Roxy run. Really hoping for Iggy next.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link

It's kind of odd that 82-73 is the big batch of canon "alternative/arty" rock tracks.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Hopefully not, we've had enough skinny white guys in a row already.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

(x-post)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

This has been my favourite run so far. I was just thinking it would be great to see some Roxy Music next, sadly I think this will be their only song that makes it. It would be so perfect for Sparks to appear next.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

awesome to see RM enter the building with a song that totally deserves to make the list.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Finn speaks out against skinny white guys.

3:10 to Your Ma (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

"In Every Dream Home a Heartache" was my Roxy vote.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Hopefully not, we've had enough skinny white guys in a row already.

You must have missed the part yesterday where we discovered an error in the tabulation, bumping the Iggy & The Stooges song up to #73. In other words it's no mystery that Iggy is coming up next.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ mine too. i also had another roxy song in there that wasn't 'virginia plain'. x-post

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Surely Kraftwerk are also skinny white guys? But rock????

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

JF: I know, I was trying to be sarcastic. (The sentiment was real, nevertheless.)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Surely Kraftwerk are also skinny white guys? But rock????

Who said "rock"?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm just hoping that this arty/indie canon stretch ends soon and we can get back to some other stuff. Some pretty rad songs in here though.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

"In Every Dream Home a Heartache" was my Roxy vote.

― seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:50 (5 minutes ago)

and me

if this is arty then give me death tbh

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - I did, I guess. I think Kraftwerk have been adopted into the same canon as Roxy/MBV/Bowie, which I guess is more of a "rock fan" canon than a "rock music" one.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link

3. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]

++++++++++++++++++++++

72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYLoxMtnUDE

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

oops, that should be 73. on Iggy, der.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

That's not the Elis Regina tune I voted for, but it's a good song, and I'm glad it broke the arty white dude domination.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - "Virginia Plain" is great and all, but for me it's not too far from Bowie or some glam stomper. The dynamics of "In Every Dream Home a Heartache" are on another level imo.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

First song which is new to me and what a treat it is.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for "Águas de Março" on the back of the Campaigning thread, really happy to see it here.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link

genuinely arty white dudes be suing this poll

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

That's seven songs in a row from the '70s. Hopefully the next song comes from a different decade. (Oh wait, I've seen the list! And it does!)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

h8 wite ppl

lex eduction horror (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

but is it an arty white dude, is the real question

iatee, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

if that was the only jobim song that could get on this poll than fair enough i guess

lex eduction horror (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

"Girl from Ipanema" was in the top 125 too.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

933. Proper Arty Dudes - "Something in 11/4 time" (1971). (200 points, 1 vote)

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

71. THE ZOMBIES "Care of Cell 44" (1968) [1,355 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWfRbW-ObHk

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

nice. but not the zombies i voted for.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Who saw that coming instead of a "Leave Me Be" or "She's Not There" or even a "Time of the Season"? Not me, and I like this song just fine.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

or... or even 'beechwood park'

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

That went over well.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link

70. BIG STAR "Thirteen" (1972) [1,362 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pte3Jg-2Ax4

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i kinda predicted there'd be some vote-splitting going on with the old zombies. interesting to see 13 people repping behind that song.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

thirteen. total classic. think it was one of the songs i felt bad about culling.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't remember if I put "Thirteen" in the weighted or unweighted portion of my ballot, but listening to it now I'm sure I didn't give it enough points (eleventybajillion!).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i like how almost every song on that zombies album is built around an unusual chord change. cell 44 flaunts it a bit more than the others

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I do love Thirteen, I thought September Gurls would be the Big Star song to make it. Same with The Zombies really surprised that is more popular than Time Of The Season.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

given september gurls was #9 on my ballot, i'm still holding out hope!

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Very happy to see this place, hummed and hawed before putting it at #2. In general I think Big Star are a little overrated but this is just 24 carat genius.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

In general I think Big Star are a little overrated but this is just 24 carat genius.

Ditto. I voted for "September Gurls" (which I'm sure will be high), but "Thirteen"'s great.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN1t5qdBUzs

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Great stuff,KEEP IT COMING!

nakamura, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

reminds me of 'chewing gum'

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Would have voted for that, but felt a bit guilty with Talking Heads already on my ballot. Which is silly of me I know.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, Tom Tom Club! They had much better dance tunes than Talking Heads.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:44 (thirteen years ago) link

serious

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Great stretch here of three songs I didn't vote for but easily could have. My fave Zombies is "Maybe After He's Gone", which wasn't nominated, but this was the best of the nominated ones. Not sure why I didn't vote for "Thirteen", looking over my ballot I like it more than several tracks I did vote for. Whoops.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

"Care Of Cell 44" was one song I voted for (and nominated) that I actually never dreamt about ending up this high. Well deserved though, of course.:)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Couple more, then I'm going on hiatus for a few hours...

68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orQ73TOhfMQ

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Kind of an overrated band imo but that song is 100% stellar.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Bah! I was hoping that the stretch of this poll would ensure it'd be less dominated by rock than the previous decade-width polls, but I guess not...

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Tom Tom Club! I think this may be my favourite pop/dance song of all time.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

"Transmission" is unfuckwithable and obviously too low. Always loved that Something Else clip and the John Cooper Clarke intro/outro.

Kent Burt, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

We're 33 songs deep into the top 100, and out of those 20 are rock music. Is that really what the 20th century sounded like?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

It is what the majority of current people think it sounded like. If this was on another kind of site than ILM, rock would have dominated even more.

I don't agree that The Zombies are rock btw. They are pop.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

the eno is pretty and not what i expected. first thing i have come away thinking hmmm i havent heard this before and want to download a copy

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Is that really what the 20th century sounded like?

pretty sure the idea wasn't to find the most representational tracks of the 20th century but the most liked by ILXors.

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

let's hope the aliens don't use this list as a reference guide when they arrive. whatever will they think of us :(

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh, I think the results could've done with more variety in both styles and eras, but we get what we get.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i like the feel of the list so far, sure, there's the odd couple of things in there i don't get, but most of this stuff is undeniably great. really sorry 'purple haze' didn't find its way onto the noms list. i think it should be sitting where 'voodoo chile' is.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

let's hope the aliens don't use this list ILX as a reference guide when they arrive. whatever will they think of us :(

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Tuomas will hate this next one, maybe more than anything else on the poll. Conversely, Geir will do a backflip!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

invisible touch

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6xNhksHyXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WunYz7Io-68

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link

so close

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's what we've covered so far today. Back with more later...

76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
71. THE ZOMBIES "Care of Cell 44" (1968) [1,355 points, 13 votes]
70. BIG STAR "Thirteen" (1972) [1,362 points, 14 votes]
69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Finns vs. Norwegians - FITE!

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Aguas de Marco is nice too. Anyone want to fill me in?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

None of my tracks showed up today (except "Search and Destroy"), though there were lots of good ones. I've had 9 so far:

Henry Mancini — Moon River (Breakfast at Tiffany's)
Claude Debussy — Clair de Lune (Suite Bergamasque)
Stan Getz and Astrud Gilberto — Girl From Ipanema
Madonna — Into the Groove
Nirvana — Smells Like Teen Spirit
The Velvet Underground — Heroin
Johnny Cash — Folsom Prison Blues
Iggy and The Stooges — Search and Destroy
Link Wray and His Ray Men — Rumble

According to my half-assed count, I voted for 18 pre-1950 tracks, plus a few more from the 50's. Still hoping to see a couple more of those showing up.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

66. Minor Threat "Guilty of Being White" (1981) [1,456 points, 19 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0tzZ__Z5Qw

3:10 to Your Ma (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

HEY NO FAKES!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

(o i c)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry yeah i shdn't've

3:10 to Your Ma (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

At least it made for a good observational jokey joke.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

just like McKaye intended oh yes sure

3:10 to Your Ma (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i bet the minor threat song i did actually nominate didn't get many votes :(

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, even i didn't find space for it

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep, "Close To The Edge" is absolutely brilliant. :) Although "Supper's Ready" is better. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

That Minor Threat song I must admit I have never heard of, but it fit perfectly into the discussion right now.:)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, the second track I voted for! Was VERY low on my ballot, though. I still love Yes, but I love them less now I've heard so much better shit done in the name of art-rock

and CTTE ain't their peak

but it's got some cool bits, so I threw it a few points, 2 more than I threw Hungry Like The Wolf

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

now screw y'all for voting CTTE but not Moon In June which is approx. 9892874982734729384702340237402378424023742 times better

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

:D When did you get into Soft Machine LJ?

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

DUDE

we're talking about my NUMBER ONE SONG OF THE 20TH CENTURY AND BY EXTENSION ALL TIME here

link to thread of much LJ spaffing: Soft Machine - "Moon In June": Classic Or Dud?

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, sage that you are, you ended up being totally OTM about Awaken as Yes' finest hour - gave it way more points than CTTE :)

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

it's aight. to be honest i've only played "To Be Over" in the last 12 months I think. :D

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

played it a lot tho. Yacht Yes.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

LJ, you can SB everyone on this thread because Moon in June got 1 vote.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

and yeah, my dad had Third lying around the house and I listened to it when teenaged and my mind backflipped into infinity. Recently I listened to it again with a lyrics-page open and my mind backflipped once more. Actually, that song never fails to blow me away. Key listen was in the car, at night, aged about 18 fwiw

lol wtf you're all savages - although my proud ILX poll habit of a 1st-placer with no other votes lives on

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

To Be Over is great! Second-best track on their best album.

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Re 'St Elmo's Fire' - I first heard it via a cover by the short-lived Uilab, only discovered last year that it was a cover

I think I heard the Uilab version first, too, which is one of the reasons why it didn't take my Eno slot. (Also, I don't think Uilab were ever intended to be anything other than a short-lived one cover supergroup - not that you're necessarily saying otherwise, just that 'short-lived' suggested a grief that they didn't run for longer.)

I already apologised upthread for forgetting to vote for 'Moon in June'. It was something I meant to include.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

we're 1-1 for my Dr Who abstention, as similarly established :P

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Yay for Big Star! sounds like that's it besides September Gurls but good to see two tracks at least.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

(Also, I don't think Uilab were ever intended to be anything other than a short-lived one cover supergroup - not that you're necessarily saying otherwise, just that 'short-lived' suggested a grief that they didn't run for longer.)

Yep. Ui was with Sasha Frere-Jones, right? I'm sure I've heard some of Ui's other work, but I can't remember whether any of it was good.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's right - Uilab being Ui and Stereolab, for those who can't keep up. Haven't listened to Ui for a long time, but they definitely did some other good stuff, and I remember seeing them play and being impressed.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link

voted Transmission (third song from my ballot to make it so far) and love Genius of Love, Care of Cell 44 and St. Elmo's Fire.

this part of the list was kind of an white arty orgy. the only "race" record being Brazilian and Yes placing this high is only icing on the cake. stopped expecting cool things from this list frankly.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Not thrilled with this run, though I'm happy to see "Águas de Março."

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

'Transmission' was also the third from my ballot. Couldn't leave Joy Division off, sorry.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Fair point - though 70-79 is by far the whitest batch of 10 in the list.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf is a "race" record?

/bottle-opener

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

not white/European

yes, I'm a reverse racist. I want NIGGERS on this list!!!!

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

WHOA WTF, SB

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

ok who's sock?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

think you mean "whose was the sock?"

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad to see yet another epic ILM poll crippled by stupid bullshit. Can't wait for the "fuck you" namecalling when we get to the top ten.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, it was a dumbass provocation. apologies. no more distasteful comments

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't got the time to read this entire thread, so I just wanted to say thanks to whoever's doing the playlist. Awesome work, making my work day considerably more bearable.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus Christ Johnny, cue up some Mantovani already so we can all just chill.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

that Minor Threat track was not a good one to dump on us and then leave for two hours.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

A lot of my votes showing up here: Virginia Plain (which is a glam stomper, but such an unutterably weird one), Search & Destroy (the song that launched a thousand mixtapes; at least, I began a passel of mixtapes with this song in the early 90s when I was literally driven somewhat nuts by it), Cell 44, which is perfect in every way, and Life on Mars which again is nearly perfect to my ears (though the line [and the delivery of] "Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow" clangs a clunky tone for me which lands the song just a yard short of heaven).

First real disappointments in this last run, too: "Genius of Love" derailed my favourite concert movie of all time and will never be forgiven for it (also, it's a shitty song IMO) and while I appreciate the impact that Minor Threat had on millions of puritan virgins, I burden them in my mind (in my eyes?) with the sins of a thousand humourless assholes.

***

Was thinking this morning about the various ways one could vote a list like this and considered that my personal 100 of the 20th century - that is, the 100 songs that have had the most impact on me and which I hold most dear in my secret heart - would look almost nothing like the 100-song mixtape that I would make to represent the century. And neither would look much like the ballot I sent in.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

"Genius of Love" derailed my favourite concert movie of all time and will never be forgiven for it (also, it's a shitty song IMO)

What do you consider fun?

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

The Minor Threat track was a joke by Noodle Vague btw - the only MT track in the poll came 1202nd.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

oh good.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Fool me once, shame on... shame on ...

xxpost Fun isn't in my vocabulary. I only like songs that are deadly serious.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for "Águas de Março" on the back of the Campaigning thread, really happy to see it here.

― seandalai, Wednesday, December 1, 2010 5:01 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

:) :) :) :)

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^now that screen name takes the cake. and eats it too.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

:) :) :) :)

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

First real disappointments in this last run, too: "Genius of Love" derailed my favourite concert movie of all time and will never be forgiven for it (also, it's a shitty song IMO)

most SB-worthy thing said so far imo

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

plus, if you wanna be a pedant about it, "Genius of Love" had to be on there so Byrne could change into the big suit. total 'motivation of the device' (but it's a moot point because it's actually a completely awesome song and u should be grateful for every chance in your life you get to hear it)

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes because disliking "Genius of Love" is infinitely more ban-worthy than dropping the N-word.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

also, those early Rub Radio hip-hop playlists taught me that lots of dudes were into rapping over that record when it came out, with generally awesome results (cf. Carey & Jones 1995)

xpost uh dude it was a good-natured joke, I didn't sban anyone (not even sure how to??)

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

you click suggest bans, you nobber

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but why would I even—

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link

to sb white people who drop the n bomb

and lj

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, I'm back sooner than planned on because...whoa I can't leave you people unsupervised!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

this is why we can't have nice things

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp what if I don't know whether someone's white/lj or not when I read their post?

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

66. GETO BOYS "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" (1991) [1,395 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJtHdkyo0hc

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I have to agree that the Tom Tom Club bit is a major downer within Stop Making Sense, but I've heard it on its own and it isn't too bad. Would never have thought to vote for it here, though.

Please don't SB me. I'll cry.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yay! lol xp

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ban 'em all and the the mods sort out their own.

xps

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

The whole Tom Tom Club album is excellent, start to finish.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

shhh, they're not ready to hear this corey

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

aw, shit, wayyyyyy too low.

re: geto boyz

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, I'm happy with this placement

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll take Hung Up on My Baby...

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

GETO BOYS

A MIDGET MADE IT INTO THE 100 LOVE YOU ILM

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

canon 2k10

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYnZMc0t0hY

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

cool! never really been a bjork fan but have of course heard+loved this song

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreed. Don't generally have much time for Bjork, but this is obviously an all-time classic.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

So happy to see Hyperballad so high, it was in my top five.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

If I had to pick one song of hers to keep forever, it would be "Jóga". If I couldn't have that one, it would be "Hyperballad".

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

'too low' is kinda arbitrary for this poll (which is itself arbitrary, but also fun!)

Of the various rap tunes I went to the trouble to memorize completely when I was a kid, MIPTOM & 'Paul Revere' are the only two I still totally remember! I've probably listened to it, on average, at least once or twice weekly for the past twenty years (!). So yeah, naturally it made my top ten. I'm just glad to see that it placed (even tho I knew it kind of had to)

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

h8 bjork

mormon's marmots (crüt), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

man, i dig me some bjork. but on a goat list? i dunno...

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Jóga is probably my second favourite Bjork song, I was surprised it wasn't nominated. Bachelorette was very close to my making my final list.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ2RvSHK_B8

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

yay!

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Another perfect song!

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoever voted for BJÖRK is a DÖRK

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO WHITE

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa - is this the first track on the countdown to receive a 1st place vote?

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO WEAK

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Was "The 15th" even nominated? I might have been persuaded to rep for Wire if that were the case (though I love "Outdoor Miner" too and think this track's pretty okay).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa - is this the first track on the countdown to receive a 1st place vote?

Clair de Lune was.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Clair de Lune and Aguas de Marco also got 1st-place votes.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

d'oh, didn't notice that.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

My first time hearing that Wire song. Great!!

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

My Bloody Valentine has a neato cover of it on the WHORE compilation.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Great to see Geto Boys here, had hoped it would do well.

Voted for 'Hyperballad' but would possibly have gone for 'Joga' as well/instead had it been nominated.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

also worth seeking out: the dykehouse cover of the mmv cover

xp

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

mbv

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

This next one is probably my favorite track to have placed in the top 125 (since my own #1 didn't)...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9gOQgfPW4Y

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

pre-'50s?

xp

haha--no.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

hell yes.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

pre50s, post-50s, whatever...this song has ALWAYS EXISTED. We were just fortunate enough to have it captured on tape in 1987.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

This is better than Born To Run, Pressure Drop or Heroin? Really?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

clearly, every song ranked higher than another song on this list is objectively and intrinsically superior.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Was a teenager when this came out. I remember thinking at the time that it was extraordinary.Like music from another planet. I had no idea if similar stuff had come before which I'd not heard or whatever, but this seemed unlike anything else happening at the time to me.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Every now and again I'll hear one of the sources that song samples and I'll be like 'Ah... MARRS'. Love how that keeps on happening.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh I'm a bit surprised Heroin made it at all b/c I'd thought all of us cool kids would have given our 'noisy VU' vote to Sister Ray. I know I sure did, at least.

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

and it predates the widespread use of sampling technology, iirc.

xp

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

viceroy's theory upthread applied with me. I had quite a few pre-50s songs on my long list and ended up culling them in favour of ones I had more of a connection with. it would have been wrong for me to vote for the charles mingus nomination if i didn't really like the song, just so that mingus got my vote.

really hoping elvis, little richard, buddy holly, jerry lee lewis get a look-in.

xavi hoarder type (whatever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

^that is, all that shit you hear was cut and spliced directly onto the master tape.

xp

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Hell yeah, "Pump Up the Volume"! Great tune! Though sadly it'll probably be the only house tune in the top 100... Kinda symptomatic in house and techno that European followers get more props than the American originators.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, for me the best thing about the MARRS song is that it gave AR Kane lots of money to fuck about in the studio with.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Wish I'd voted for 'Pump Up the Volume' now.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JJlG6-AFAM

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

"Map Reference" and at least three or four other Wire songs are just incredible--don't have my own list here, and can't remember what they were nominated for, but I hope they show up once or twice more. (Sorry for barging in on Curtis.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Excellent! I think I voted for this.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Aw man! So many great Curtis songs to choose, thoughtI might have wasted my vote going for the obvious big hit.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

xp to Tuomas: what about "Your Love"?

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Yay, this poll needs more soul and r&b.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Is this the biggest Curtis song? I voted for Don't Worry Hell Below, which will always be my favorite

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I voted for Move On Up, hope I did. I definitely had another song of his quite high on my list.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Is this the biggest Curtis song?

It was his only top 40 hit in the UK at least (#12, 1971). Anyone know what his singles stats were like in the US? Wikipedia is being lame here.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm kind of ambivalent about 'Move on Up' - I'd usually say I don't like it at all, but every so often I hear it somewhere and it really fits. I did vote 'Hell Below', though, that track is awesome.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for "Move on Up", though I gave "The Makings of You" more points (it was my #7) in the vain hope that it might make it to the top 100. To me, that song is the most beautiful slow jam ever made by anyone. But "Move on Up" is of course brilliant too, and I'm glad that we have at least one Curtis tune on the list.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't have charts in front of me, but my guess would be that "Superfly" is probably his most recognizable song to the average ear.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks to being played in movies during scenes where someone slowly gets out of a car looking more stylish than usual

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's not like everyday music for me, but if heard at the right time, it really has the capacity to turn a dreary day into gold. (xp to emily)

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I think the Superfly Soundtrack was his commercial peak in the US. Freddie's Dead and the title track both went top ten, Freddie being the bigger hit. Move On Up and If There's a Hell Below were smaller hits both making the top thirty. It's shocking how unsuccessful he was here in the UK, shame on us.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoXAwl9kw

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

This is another great one that I really wish I had voted for. Oh well, glad it made the list without my help.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

imo it's a song that spends all its capital on your first listen, and then after that it seems kind of clunky and corny (like most beat poetry). Cool jam behind him, though.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks Kitchen, I never knew that. xps

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

@JF - Not sure about that, just listened again there and it's still ace.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Map Reference is 978432950873 is the one song in which I think the covers totally trump the original... MBV's specifically, the meatball-effect really nails it.

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

meatball as in the type of pedal used to get that super-electric sound starting off the song

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Another of mine. It's a brilliant track, and it does encapsulate something about the 20th century that I think needs to be represented here. Also, I like the flute :)

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

(And please kill me for using that emoticon.)

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeahy for Elis Regina, Gil Scott Heron and Tom Tom Club. For a minute there I thought they wouldn't make it.

'Care of Cell 44' was the winner of both the Zombies singles poll and the Odessey and Oracle poll so it was a given. I didn't vote for it (went for 'time of the season' iirc) but seriously considered it given the fact it was the one that was bound to get the most votes.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, you guys knew it had to happen...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHiGbolFFGw

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus. It hadn't even crossed my mind that this would place, to be honest. Boo to everyone.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd completely forgotten about that video!

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

feels like radiohead's stock has really fallen over the past few years but maybe that's just ilx contrarianism and/or critics fatigue

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

if creep places further down i will murder you all

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, they used to be the Biggest Band in the World of All Time, or something like that. OK Computer is actually my least favourite album of theirs after the first one.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

but give you a sensual back massage beforehand

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Was Creep nominated?

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

What I really really want is for Marlena Shaw and Peggy Lee to show up eventually. It will break my heart if they dont.

I guess this is the highest ranked Radiohead song in the poll?

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess that's the only Curtis Mayfield song that we'll get as well. I forgot to vote any Curtis but my symbolic vote goes to this one:

http://i.imgur.com/odlZu.jpg

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Paranoid Android is still an affecting track for me. 14 year old nostalgia helps too.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

When I go back to '90s Radiohead now, it's almost always The Bends album. "Let Down" is about the only track on OK Computer I still care for.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

it really is one of the most cinematic songs in existence. you can't listen to it without giving it your full attention and imagination. that said, i find it boring after 4 listenings.

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRHA9W-zExQ

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Yesterday I was going to predict 'hyperballad' and 'cloudbusting' appearing today but my internet went down. Will Kate Bush outnumber kraftwerk and perhaps even the beatles in this poll?

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I kind of overdid it with OK Computer back when it was released and so participated in the backlash afterwards, but after going a good 6 or 7 years without listening to it, I've begun to appreciate it again lately. Paranoid Android is an awesome song really and by far the best on that album. I don't think I voted for it though.

peter in montreal, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

this'd be my favorite song on the list thus far

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

kate probably has, and will probably have, the best music videos on the list as well imo

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Kate Bush is like the UK Springsteen.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for 4 Kate tracks, 2 more than anyone else. One I expect to see poll, the other probably not.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought it was Billy Bragg. xps

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Wouldn't be in my top 5 Kate Bush songs, but still happy to see it here.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Would be in my top 5 songs from Hounds Of Love

Satantango! (Matt #2), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

57. (TIE) DR. DRE ft. SNOOP DOGG "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang" (1992) [1,447 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qkP8SvHvaU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok here's another easy prediction: The Beach Boys will outnumber and outrank the Beatles songs in this poll.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

This is the last tie, btw. It's clear sailing all the way from 56 down to 1.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Love the opening 30 secs of this, and the rest really. 1,2,3 and to the 4

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

These guys show up in some poll like every single day!

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Look how YOUNG Snoop is, damn. He's just a baby!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Excellent song all around, and appears almost exactly where I voted for it (#53).

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

really the last iconic rap tune. ok maybe that one by 50c is a contender.

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

no iconic rap tunes between 1992 and 2003??

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

"California Love" sure was.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I would argue "The Real Slim Shady" was also iconic.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Sugarhill Gang, people.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Between 1992 and 2003?!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"Regulate" too

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"Gangsta's Paradise" too, for better or worse.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"get low"

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"stay fly"

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

hypnotize?

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Usher/Lil Jon's "Yeah!" was in the top 10 for like 100 weeks or something.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

those are all great but name one you can play to an 8 year old and find that they recognize that song immediately

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"get low"?

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd have to think that "California Love" and "Regulate" are as recognizable as "Nothin But a G Thang" but I guess I could be wrong.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Perhaps I am out of touch with 8 year olds but I seriously doubt most 2nd graders have heard "Nuthin but a G Thang".

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

but my opinion doesn't actually bear research, it's more of a definition "imo" statement from general observance in my lyfe

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Depends on the 8 year-old.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5tiuZU4JI

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

"a milli"?

prolego, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xxpost

Gotta say, my 7 year old son loves music but would never recognize any of those. Maybe next year?

And to think I imagined he'd be just like that little kid in the video...

Moodles, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure i've heard california love and gangsta's paradise each more times in my life than g thang, both before and since i started listening to rap

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I heard Wierd Al's version of gangster's paradise before the actual, but I know as likely one of the younger members here (yes its apparent hurr hurr) me and buds were definitely listening to this (g thang) while we did our homework and ate our carrot snacks

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

circa when i was 10

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

anecdotal evidence doesnt change the fact that if you think this was the last iconic rap song you've probably been willfully ignoring rap for a while

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey, I sure do like that Nina Simone song.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool, I cut 'Sinnerman' from my list in my last bit of pruning so I'm glad other people voted for it.

As for 'Paranoid Android', I still like OKC as an album a lot but that song's appeal's been weakened by overplay for me.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

xp It's taken everyone 10 minutes to listen to it! It's a stunning song, not sure I had heard it before.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't vote for sinnerman but what a track.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp same for a lot of these so far, but it was a revelation the first time I heard OKC.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i regret my opinion after reading mention of eminem - totally forgot the guy and how wildly slim shady instilled itself into pop culture

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Sad tale: I got into Nina Simone after watching that Bridget Fonda movie Point of No Return. At least something good came out of watching it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Sad tale: I got into Nina Simone after watching that Bridget Fonda movie Point of No Return. At least something good came out of watching it.

Inland Empire for me (though I actually liked the film too).

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

56. THE BEACH BOYS "Wouldn't it Be Nice" (1966) [1,460 points, 12 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L--cqAI3IUI

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, tough to argue with this one, though I personally chose another Beach Boys track to vote for.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Too low!

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably my favourite track on Pet Sounds (and an all-time classic album opener) but, yeah, I voted for a different Beach Boys song.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Great to see Nina Simone here. I voted for that, and obviously it's a titanic track, but I think I would probably have gone with 'Wild Is The Wind' in its place if that had been nommed.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

not one of the Beach Boys tracks I voted for but approve wholeheartedly!

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Both the Beach Boys songs I voted for have now made it. I always preferred Wouldn't It Be Nice to God Only knows but I will be more than happy when that appears in the top ten later.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Turns out I didn't vote for this. My one Beach Boys song is sure to appear later.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

55. QUEEN ft. DAVID BOWIE "Under Pressure" (1981) [1,475 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Barf out, people!

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

u crazy. This song is godhead.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Were there any other songs with 2 first place votes or was this the only one? Seems pretty crazy to me, I like the song OK but wouldn't have thought to put it in my top 100.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

There are, but this is the first to appear.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow I'm shocked to see this so high. This really should have been on my list.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, this is just bizarre. It's not that it's a terrible song, it's just that I can't see by what criteria anyone would pick this as their top song of the century.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, two people are seriously feeling the pressure here (wonder if they also voted for "Pressure Drop"?).

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

It's all about the Bowie-sung build up part at the end. I still get a chill half the times I listen to it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

At least it's not all "lol predictable canon"...

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

might as well be the Fripp masturbation.

― gospodin simmel, Monday, 29 November 2010 22:36

srsly go 2 hell :P

― rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Monday, November 29, 2010

wonder if he's still checking the results down in hades

buzza, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't vote for it, but i do luv it, tbh.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAKk9XhX_GA

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yesssss

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

were there ever more dorky cool people?

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

and yes I voted for this amazing track.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Another one I cut from my ballot... I did vote for another PSBs song instead but I doubt any others will place higher?

Queen/Bowie was one of my votes though.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Lately, I've been feeling "It's a Sin" more than "West End Girls" as far as golden-age PSB goes. I'm sure it's just a momentary affair, though, because I've been committed to "West End Girls" for 24 years.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted. *waves PSB flag*

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

hard to think of a more cinematic pop hit from this period

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Scandal's "The Warrior" was a song looking for a movie, but yeah...I agree.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

82. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,325 points, 14 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]
76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]
65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]
64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]
55. QUEEN ft. DAVID BOWIE "Under Pressure" (1981) [1,475 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes]
54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]

find this cluster depressing. same thing i was railing about yesterday, and it's not that i don't like the music. i love most of the bands involved here, especially kaftwerk, bowie, queen and eno. but we're looking in this brief run at fully 15% of the top one hundred, over half the slots between 82 and 54.

i get bummed because this list defines such a narrow aesthetic/stylistic spectrum, and because this spectrum so dominates awareness, interest and discourse on ILX. i suppose you could break it into two complementary spectra, one of distinctly arty, "experimental" pop from the 60s & 70s, predominantly guitar-based, the other of atmospheric (arty, "experimental") pop from the 70s & 80s, typically at least in part electronic, often dance music. these leading into their contemporary descendants with the likes of bjork and radiohead. it's typically genteel music that combines an affect of cerebral artistic seriousness with a penchant for florid emotional intensity and even outright sentimentality. when not sentimental, coldly robotic, with the extremes of this latter tendency represented here only by kraftwerk.

and there's nothing wrong with any of that. but it becomes oppressive, or at least terribly boring, when there's so little room made for anything else. (i'm aware that this post might seem to betray a petty american jingoism. not so. lots of music from the UK made my list. i just wish the UK music on this final list were a little more varied.)

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

53. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender" (1978) [1,493 points, 15 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqB9lhHqmsE

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

there's nothing wrong with any of that. but it becomes oppressive, or at least terribly boring, when there's so little room made for anything else.

I get the point you're making, but I honestly think that artists like James Brown and Duke Ellington and Elvis and Sinatra and Hank Williams and a lot of jazz and blues were OVERnominated in the beginning making a consensus on such things so much harder. It's good that The Fall met that fate, but bad that Louis Armstrong did.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Surrender! Had my ballot been ranked, that would've been my #1.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for a different PSB song as well, though it has absolutely no chance of scoring here.

Hey, here's another track I voted for ("Surrender")! I'm really glad this song made it, and the 4 points I gave it by voting it #99 actually impacted its placement.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Emm...Johnny, are you sure you're reading from the corrected results?

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought the corrections stopped at Iggy! Hang on...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

in the spirit of full disclosure, my horses in today's race:

59. TOM TOM CLUB - "Genius of Love"
63. M|A|R|R|S - "Pump Up the Volume"
57. NINA SIMONE - "Sinnerman"
53. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender"

and i'd like to amend the above post to reflect the fact that not "lots" but "some" UK music made my list and that i am, in fact, a petty, jingoistic american iirc.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I get the point you're making, but I honestly think that artists like James Brown and Duke Ellington and Elvis and Sinatra and Hank Williams and a lot of jazz and blues were OVERnominated in the beginning making a consensus on such things so much harder. It's good that The Fall met that fate, but bad that Louis Armstrong did.

Would you really find the list that interesting if it was made up of James Brown, Duke Ellington, Elvis, Sinatra, Hank Williams and Louis Armstrong? I get that a certain type of aesthetic is being over-represented in this list, but you seem to be suggesting we eschew that aesthetic entirely for just another type of (forgive me for using this word) rockism.

Also, the Fall are a million times more interesting than most of the people you've listed.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Boo to The Fall. Yea to Hank and Louie!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, so Cheap Trick is actually #52, and #51 will actually be #53 and what was #52 is now actually #51. Does anyone really care all that much?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

That Cheap Trick song is the first from the countdown that I've flat out hated.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i was one of the #1 votes for "Under Pressure," also the person that started this thread: best part of "Under Pressure"

My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I do! I want to see the results come in properly! Exclamation mark!

xpost to JF

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i knew it all along.

xp

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think "Surrender" is remotely as good as "I Want You To Want Me," tbh. also Cheap Trick was one of the first cool old before-I-was-born singles bands that once I started checking out their albums I realized I don't really like them that much at all.

My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

never thought of you as much of a Bowie man, tho, Al.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

That Cheap Trick song is the first from the countdown that I've flat out hated.

Still no real clunkers for me so far, I'm not even sure what songs I hate have a chance of making it in.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay then, so pretend I just skipped #53 accidentally and now I'm going to go back to it, making Cheap Trick #52.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry JF, I think this is the last change. What happened is that one track dropped 2 points and 2 places(!) after the correction was made.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I get that a certain type of aesthetic is being over-represented in this list, but you seem to be suggesting we eschew that aesthetic entirely for just another type of (forgive me for using this word) rockism.

― emil.y, Wednesday, December 1, 2010 12:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

not at all! if the list was tilted toward some boring mojo/rolling stone canon, i'd be just as disappointed. well, almost as disappointed, but that's not what i'm bemoaning. i mean, look at my picks so far: hardly anyone's idea of "classic rock" (cheap trick and motorhead excepted). i'm just beefing about the longstanding, ongoing ILX dominance of a specific aesthetic/artistic style, the endless celebration of which often strikes me as incurious and self-satisfied.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

the other alternative would be a smattering the most canonical tracks from each different aesthetic, which would be equally boring IMO.

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I will never ever understand why someone would prefer some art rock band over Sinatra or Satchmo... The aesthetic Contenderizer speaks about seems to favour distance and coldness over warmth and immediacy, and I guess that's why I can never really get the canon as shown by ILM polls, where this kind of approach to music seems to come off as the most popular.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFGpWOmPENg

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't vote for this, but yay!

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Well okay, this one I can stand behind! Incredible tune, it's experimental and "psychedelic", but also ageless like some folk tune that's always existed.

The only problem I have with "Some Velvet Morning" is that the time chages make it really hard to dance with someone, and I've tried many times.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

In fact, this should've been in my top 20, I'm not sure why I put it in the lower region of my ballot.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I'm so delighted to see the Pet Shop Boys on the list. I didn't vote for West End Girls but it's such a brilliant song it's just I like a few of their others a lot more. There were three Pet Shop Boys songs on my final list, hopefully another one might make it.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I will never ever understand why someone would prefer some art rock band over Sinatra or Satchmo... The aesthetic Contenderizer speaks about seems to favour distance and coldness over warmth and immediacy, and I guess that's why I can never really get the canon as shown by ILM polls, where this kind of approach to music seems to come off as the most popular.

I like coldness and distance, though I would say that a lot of the arty brit stuff here (Roxy Music, Kate Bush) is very immediate too. I can't really put my finger on why but I've never been able to find an 'in' to big band/swing type jazz - I find some of it enjoyable but I don't have a strong emotional connection to the music. Caveat: I've never really listened to Louis Armstrong.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

The aesthetic Contenderizer speaks about seems to favour distance and coldness over warmth and immediacy, and I guess that's why I can never really get the canon as shown by ILM polls, where this kind of approach to music seems to come off as the most popular.

...writes the biggest Grace Jones fanboy on ILX.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Nancy yes; Frank no...? slips away muttering somethin' about times not being what they used to be.

and stay off my damn lawn, ya rotten brats!

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

never thought of you as much of a Bowie man, tho, Al.

― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 3:32 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm really not. i love "Under Pressure" and Ziggy Stardust and assorted other hits (also voted for "Young Americans" in this poll) but I don't really hold Bowie in very high regard compared to his stature (in general and especially his stature on ILM)

My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I am definitely a Nancy yes, Frank no kind of person, but really this is more of a LEE FUCK YEAH situation.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender" (1978) [1,493 points, 15 votes]

+++++++++++++++++++++

51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_nwAkOGL78

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

To recap

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin" (1967) [1,231 points, 11 votes]
97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
86. AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
82. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
79. (TIE) NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,325 points, 14 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
71. THE ZOMBIES "Care of Cell 44" (1968) [1,355 points, 13 votes]
70. BIG STAR "Thirteen" (1972) [1,362 points, 14 votes]
69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]
66. GETO BOYS "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" (1991) [1,395 points, 13 votes]
65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]
64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]
57. (TIE) DR. DRE ft. SNOOP DOGG "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang" (1992) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
56. THE BEACH BOYS "Wouldn't it Be Nice" (1966) [1,460 points, 12 votes]
55. QUEEN ft. DAVID BOWIE "Under Pressure" (1981) [1,475 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes]
54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]
52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender" (1978) [1,493 points, 15 votes]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

the other alternative would be a smattering the most canonical tracks from each different aesthetic, which would be equally boring IMO.

― skip, Wednesday, December 1, 2010 12:37 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't know that this is true, unless you consider any well known/loved song "canon". honestly, i suspect that the list would only become more loopily eclectic if there were less focus on the icy-handed masters of late 20th century art pop.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Still nothing from the first six decades of the century in the top 100... :(

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Think Dre/Snoop and Radiohead are the only votes of mine that showed up today. But enjoyed being introduced or reminded of Wire and Big Star songs.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Clair de Lune is no small potatoes. (but yeah, one entry does not a well-represented 60 years make.) xp

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

6 of mine so far, which I don't think is too bad.

122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,325 points, 14 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

hooray and much respect, btw, to:

regina & jobim for "aguas de março",
gils-scott heron for "the revolution will not be televised",
queen & bowie for "under pressure",
nancy & lee for "some velvet morning",
and dolly parton for "jolene".

gladdens my bitter little heart

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

^ didn't vote for any of you, but i should have.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for these but there's so many others on the list that I'm really happy to see.

116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]
65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]
64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]
56. THE BEACH BOYS "Wouldn't it Be Nice" (1966) [1,460 points, 12 votes]

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

No tracks from before 1965 today and only 4 tracks from before 1970.

I had 3 show up today, "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang", "Surrender", and "Jolene", which makes for 12 overall.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

and "surrender", shit yeah! JUSTICE

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

BTW, I really hope there's at least a couple more country tracks to come and we don't just get "Folsom Prison Blues" and "Jolene".

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

probably should have voted for Dolly. I like a ton from today's selections but only voted for four of them:

93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
82. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,325 points, 14 votes]
62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]
60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender" (1978) [1,493 points, 15 votes]

skip, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I would argue that none of those songs are canon proper, but they'd very diverse and I have no doubt we could've come up with 120 others that were just as NOT-boring as those (some of which have already been included). xps to contenderizer's short list.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]
64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]

ELEVEN (!) from my list, so I guess I'm more culpable than most...

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

The main thing I'm taking from this is that I'm an idiot for not owning any Elis Regina &/or Tom Jobim albums. I did vote for that song, however, and do have it on one of my Brazilian compilations, but I definitely need to catch up with the Brazilian music I like.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I voted for these tracks:

113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]
62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]

I also feel the results would be more fun if there wasn't such a skew towards "cerebral" rock canon, but it's kinda unrealistic not to expect a poll voted for by ILXors will be representative of the styles of music that typically dominate ILX polls. If that makes sense.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

No, I get it. I love Joy Division and Prince too. But I'm totally willing to sacrifice my 2nd and/or 3rd Prince choice to make some room for Cab Calloway.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Still nothing from the first six decades of the century in the top 100... :(

― Tuomas

There was no good music before multitrack recording.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

16 of mine in so far. No idea how the Top 50 will end up. No disco in yet, wonder if it'll make a showing.

Gavin in Leeds, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Above all else however - thank you thank you thank you for giving me the chance to hear John Coltrane 'My Favorite Things'. Incredible!

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Other than Wire, Eno and possibly Autobahn I don't know where this coldness and distance is being manifested. Kate Bush and Queen/Bowie for example are supremely emotionally engaged records.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"

surprised how w/e this was, it's a totally rote litany of 60s/70s black militarism shtick of its time

wouldn't give it props for ~influence~ alone

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

14. Just like the girl in Cyprus Avenue

123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades"
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run"
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)"
98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin"
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue"
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son"
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy"
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop"
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner"
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon"
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks"
52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender"
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene"

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm wondering what the poll would look like if we cut out all multiple-entry bands except their top result, and then shifted up the next lot of results into the top 125.

nakhchivan, what about the FLUTE?

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Joy Division and New Order are pretty cold, Bowie can be, and Kraftwerk doesn't have a warm cell in their collective bodies. xps

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

hey kind poll-runners could you send me an ilx mail with my ballot when you get time? I didn't save it first.

sleeve, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Autobahn yes, but Computer Love is heartbreakingly warm, agree Bowie/NO/JD can be but not on the entries here.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

xp to sleeve: sent

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Why do all you Europeans hate warmth? Is it because you're jealous of America's freedom?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

nakhchivan, what about the FLUTE?

― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:15 (2 minutes ago)

rite, i listened to a different version

still, not all that but i can see why ppl voted for it

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey, I'm European! And I Love frredom!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

freedom

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

aren't u a socialist?

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Johnny, you're not complaining about coldness here are you?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

imo "Folsom Prison Blues" is probz the greatest track to ever come out of the heyday of Sun Studios. A line like "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die" would get bleeped on radio/Mtv these days.

― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever)

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

That's a different type of coldness, there's plenty of emotion in Johnny Cash.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

hey everyone

we don't need a running tally of what you voted for -- make a separate thread for ballot posting or something

jagger reupholstered my pussy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

that's ~cold~

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm looking forward to a warm top ten filled with Orchestral Maneuvers in the Dark, Magazine and the greatest song of the last century, Blue Monday

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait. So Joy Division/New Order don't do emotion??

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Threads for ballot posting are to see the full spectrum of your votes and what you wish had made it. Posting a running count is part of the discussion of the actual poll - what you're repping for the hardest. Otherwise it'd just be full of bitching and nothing else.

xposts to J0rdan

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Things what I voted for which have made it:

120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
55. QUEEN ft. DAVID BOWIE "Under Pressure" (1981) [1,475 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes]
54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

Hmm, 13. Coincidentally, I didn't vote for Big Star's "Thirteen" like I thought I had. Oops.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

'I will drug you and read you my vote list/on the permafrost'

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm wondering what the poll would look like if we cut out all multiple-entry bands except their top result, and then shifted up the next lot of results into the top 125.

I'll post this list after we're done...though it won't change the overall flavour of the results, I think it gives a nicer list. I'm going to stick my head out here and say pretty much every second (and third) track by a single band on the list is redundant in a sense. As an absolute rule, this is of course nonsense*, but if you've heard one Wire/Prince/Kraftwerk/late-period-Beach-Boys song you have a pretty good idea of where they fit in 20th-century music and why they're awesome.

* Sticking with the Beach Boys as an example, "Surf's Up" and "California Girls" would complement each other rather than contribute redundancy.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

hey everyone

we don't need a running tally of what you voted for -- make a separate thread for ballot posting or something

― jagger reupholstered my pussy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 4:27 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or maybe wait til the end or near the end? that's what i'm gonna do.

My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I agree with the tally-posting-is-lame sentiment, even though I just did it.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

It's the third day and I hadn't done it yet, so I was genuinely curious.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

16 of my picks so far, um did anyone else vote for Magma - De Futura?

Satantango! (Matt #2), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, there were other votes for De Futura.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Other than Wire, Eno and possibly Autobahn I don't know where this coldness and distance is being manifested. Kate Bush and Queen/Bowie for example are supremely emotionally engaged records.

― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 1:12 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

my point is being misconstrued. i originally mentioned ILX's predilection for elegant, cerebral art pop that indulges in or feigns histrionic emotionalism, even outright sentimentality (or else is robotically cold, a la kraftwerk). i'm not objecting to the dominance of the ILX house style because it is unemotional, but because the dominance is itself tedious.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

2 wtf moments for me from today's results:

'under pressure' and that horrible, cloying cheap trick song.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

my point is being misconstrued. i originally mentioned ILX's predilection for elegant, cerebral art pop that indulges in or feigns histrionic emotionalism, even outright sentimentality (or else is robotically cold, a la kraftwerk). i'm not objecting to the dominance of the ILX house style because it is unemotional, but because the dominance is itself tedious.

― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:47 (4 minutes ago)

that's hardly a 'dominant' tranche of this list however you cut it

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

ILX's predilection for elegant, cerebral art pop that indulges in or feigns histrionic emotionalism, even outright sentimentality (or else is robotically cold, a la kraftwerk)

I think your point is being misconstrued because why not just say 'elegant, cerebral art pop'? Although I would still take issue about whether all the bands you listed are in fact that, at least it would make sense. Because right now you seem to be saying '...art pop that is either emotional or not'.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry if it annoys you Jordan but I didn't keep a text copy of my ballot and doing my own recap helps me see how many songs on my ballot have appeared so far.

21/100

122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]
65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

sad to see what's missing from the countdown. more interested now to see what placed 500-125. the rest of the list will not produce many surprises i wager.

xavi hoarder type (whatever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Its like Jordan's plea went completely unviewed. I have to agree that its annoying to see these lists cluttering up an already packed thread.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

well, stick an "often" in there if it pleases you.

if you'll forgive the redundancy and for purposes of clarification: i'm talking about the dominance of a cerebral, literary and often somewhat ironically distanced strain of experimental/art pop that equally often tends to emotionalism, the sentiment and intellectualism coexisting happily when they must. this was typically (though not always) guitar driven rock music prior to the late 70s, but becomes increasingly electronic and dance-oriented thereafter. it frequently displays a fascination with repetition, abstraction and the cultivation of atmosphere as an end in itself, though it remains steadfastly pop. it places a premium on aesthetic sophistication and elegance, though it can be quite fierce and even violent within those constraints.

for example: joy division, new order, bowie, eno, roxy music, pet shop boys, kraftwerk, radiohead, bjork, kate bush, wire, the smiths

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i make the point about emotionalism and coldness because i'm talking not about the entire universe of art pop, which includes a great many other strains, but about a specific thread, and this thread, for whatever reason, gravitates to the poles of wrenching sentiment and icy intellection. the tension between these poles is what makes a song like "computer world" interesting, and this tension seems like a dominant theme in the music i'm discussing.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

basically you're saying that low-grade aspergers informs our musical tastes

pluperfect (del), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry I haven't been able to join in, but I wanted to listen to them all in order without spoilers and I can't do it in real time. This is really, really great though, thanks a bunch again for putting it together.

I'd never heard 'Sinnerman' before, but good lord what a song! Miles beyond anything else in the rundown so far imo, and now that I've heard it the only one there that might genuinely be the best track of the century.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow! Can't believe you never heard of Sinnerman before. Heard any other Nina Simone tracks? I honestly thought that one would make it to the top 20.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway if you like that one I'd recommend: Funkier than a mosquito's tweeter, See-line Woman, Love Me or Leave Me, I ain't got no.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

She's totally passed me by, but not for much longer I see. I thought 'Sinnerman' was familiar when I heard the tinkly intro (gets used in a car ad here if I'm right) but nothing to prepare me for what was about to drop - you don't get a pleasure like that very often.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

fourteen for me

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]

94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
86. AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

66. GETO BOYS "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" (1991) [1,395 points, 13 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I've had ten place so far. Will protect delicate souls by not listing 'em, but the highest by a distance was my no.4 'Move On Up' - much as I love that, it seems like kiddies' stuff after Nina.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

(7/75)
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]

the happiest thing to show up which I didn't vote for is Bjork

plus will someone turn off the commentary for kornrulez6969?

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Loved 'Águas de Março' btw, it was a joy. I knew it from covers but not the original.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

the biggest disappointment so far (besides not having better Nirvana, King Crimson, Fleetwood Mac, and Cheap Trick tracks) is Radiohead - Paranoid Android

That song just reminds of the first thing dicks learn how to play after a year of practicing acoustic guitar

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

attachments...

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

also while I'm voicing my opinions - "Awaken" is not better than "Close to the Edge" and WOOOH for that Brian Eno track being the one to show up (I don't know the cover btw)

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

So far, I've voted for these eight:
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]

and thought I'd also voted for these four, but having double-checked I realise they got eliminated from the final cut, but were bubbling under in the 100-120 positions:
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]

76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]

Porpoises Rescue Dick Van Dyke (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I expect my only 2 hip hop votes to show up in the top 50 (can you guess which?).. I'll just say it "The Message" and "93 'Til Infinity"

more like "Age of Nadz" (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm a kind of bummed "West End Girls" already placed, though at the same time glad it placed at all. But I guess this means "Always On My Mind" has no chance.

daavid, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I honestly don't mind people posting tallies of their votes that have placed, because I keep bookmarking this thread all over the place. I never see most of them more than once.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks also for the chance to hear 'Under Pressure' with new ears. I had it and another Queen on my list of 140, but cut them cos I thought they weren't actually that good - but no, they are.

I'm still gushing about 'Sinnerman' tbh. It sort of makes me want to withdraw my ballot, it feels invalidated now. I wrote before about looking for transcendent moments above everything else, and voting for wherever I found them. Now I feel a bit stupid giving points to 'Transmission' for its hi-hat, or 'West End Girls' for the lyric, when here's ten minutes of ecstacy and i'd never heard of it.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

So far we've introduced one person to "Word Up" and another to "Sinnerman". That's really the most important thing here, amirite?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

in voting for "sinnerman" i have not just done the right thing, i have transformed another human life. feels good. like being clean.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Kind of jealous of Ismael's little epiphany here! Honestly thrilled at yr response to that song.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

ok, so 9 tracks i've voted for have appeared so far along with 2 tracks i nominated (i know this is superfluous information, but i'm noting it down for my own record)

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Things I've voted for that have turned up: 21CSM, CTTE, Paranoid Android

now prog off everyone

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

(Nice to see Map Ref - great fucken song - but having placed I Should Have Known Better at 4th spot I kinda exhausted 154's voting privs)

gospodin sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

*amends DN*

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Seriously, for all your talk of "art" music, do you not see how something like 'Pump Up the Volume' is so much more inventive, interesting and just more generally compelling than your picks that have placed so far?

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm pretty shocked that 'outdoor miner' isn't the highest placed wire song (god knows i gave it a pretty solid nudge, voting it at #2 and all), but it's fantastic to see two of their songs in the top hunge.

with only 50 songs left, the air up there is pretty thin. heaps of goodies are going to miss out, alas.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

well I've had 3 picks place and two of them were very low down my ballot - PUTV isn't something I've heard. everyone approached the voting list from a position of partial ignorance. I will go through this listening to everything unheard and educate myself; in the meantime, cut the snark!

xp

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, sorry, realised it was overly snipey after hitting submit. But it was something I was thinking about myself, to be honest, with all the talk of 'art pop' being bandied about on the thread. It seems to be losing all meaning it may ever have had.

Also, I'm kicking myself for not voting for PUTP.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I have to wonder if "Pump Up the Volume" will change a life in 2010 like it did in 1987. Somehow, I think it probably would not have the same impact.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link

PUTV is one of those tracks I said was important because of its timing and what it represents - the whole sampling thing, in this case.

I didnt get round to voting at all, so if O Superman doesn't place I am going to cut you all out of my will.

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

'pump up the volume' is pretty good. i mean, i'm happy it wasn't 'pump up the jam' instead.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

JF: yeah I agree with you - but thats because when it came out, there wasnt much like it around.

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"Pump Up the Jam" is classic

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I completely agree about 'art pop' losing its meaning, which is why I was thoroughly laying into all the 'art pop' on this thread for basically being very conventional music with a customisation! Good songs, but conventional ones. The genuine avant-garde isn't getting any sort of a look-in.

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

As I've said, O Superman will be top 20 (and the best thing in the top 20)

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

True. Aside from a little bit of sample-based rap at the time, I hadn't heard anything that had been made almost entirely from other things. And it was so beautiful and amazing and everytime I listened to it I saw stars and rainbows.

Okay, that sounds ridiculous, but "Pump Up the Volume" was pretty transformative to a 13 year-old me.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

You guys are going to be so surprised when Les Rallizes Dénudés are #1!

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

shhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

oops

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry to further derail but weirdo prog rock ≠ avant-garde

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yes I said the avant-garde wasn't getting a look-in! god

21CSM is the most avant-garde thing so far obv

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd say that award goes to the Doctor Who theme, especially considering it is from 1963.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm hoping le marteau sans maître made the top 25

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

ah, fair fucks xp

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I cut LRD. Boo me.

And I didn't hear 'Pump Up the Volume' until after I'd been exposed to other stuff that was produced in a similar way, but it still strikes me as such an interesting and innovative piece. I have always preferred Coldcut's 'Stop That Crazy Thing' (non-vocal version), so maybe that's why I didn't put PUTV on my list.

xpost the award for most avant-garde DEFINITELY goes to the Doctor Who theme. 21CSM isn't very avant-garde at all.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

91. (TIE) THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,282 points, 13 votes]

too low imo

If I'd realized what this actually is, I would prob have put it somewhere in or around my top ten. I can't believe that, after all these years, I still ever only knew that vaguely as the unofficial Peanuts theme.

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd definitely say something like miles is the most avant-garde yet.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

prog rock ≠ art rock
weirdo prog rock = art rock

although a classic pop song, the 10cc song is very artsy (imo)
10cc is very artsy (imo)

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

*Stop This Crazy Thing (xpost correcting myself)

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd definitely say something like miles is the most avant-garde yet.

― charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:48 (30 seconds ago)

yeah, I *do* aim to give the jazz ITT a thorough and rewarding listen - the only thing preventing me from embracing it totally is the intimidating quantity of jazz I am yet to listen to

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

but this will be eroded :)

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i think you would like charles mingus.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"Bitches Brew" would be another entry point I think you would appreciate a lot.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

just get Sun Ra - Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I *do* like a *lot* of jazz-rock and avant-jazz so the more trad/pure forms are but a few weeks' concerted effort away

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

For relatively "trad" then yeah, Mingus is unimpeachable.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

cool! :)

you all have to listen to more jazz-rock in exchange tho. like moon in june.

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to love Weather Report. Does that count?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Would recommend Mingus too. I think he was the only non-vocal jazzer to make my list in the end.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

do you also mean jazz rock like steely dan, louis? :)

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd recommend Jimmy Smith too. Organ-based jazz gets snubbed too often, but The Sermon! is amazing.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link

The genuine avant-garde isn't getting any sort of a look-in.

― gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 4:38 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

the genuine avant-garde is toss is the thing

i went to such annoying pains to clarify the sort of art-pop i meant precisely because the phrase can describe so many different things

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

xp
I think Mingus Ah Um was the first "proper" jazz record I got into. Something about the structure and feel of the compositions has a crossover appeal greater than even Miles or Trane have imo.

Another good one is Larry Young "Unity".

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Hope this thread serves as an example why ilxor threads need multiple pages. the scrolling is getting fucking ridiculous

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

BOOKMARK

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

"the genuine avant-garde" - I don't think you can throw the term around and assume anyone else has the same idea of what it means. Are we talking about UK Funky?

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Get the following albums:

Billie Holiday - Songs for Distingué Lovers
Brigitte Fontaine & Art Ensemble of Chicago - Comme à la radio
Charles Mingus - Migus Ah Um
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady
Charles Mingus - Mingus Mingus Mingus
John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman - John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman
Krzysztof Komeda - Astigmatic
Miles Davis - In A Silent Way
Rahsaan Roland Kirk - The Inflated Tear
Yusef Lateef - Eastern Sounds

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

That's a good list! The Brigitte Fontaine is nuts but only tangentially jazz, I'd say - I was thinking earlier I would have voted for the title track if it had been nominated.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

AND Jimmy Smith - The Sermon!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

my bridge for getting seriously into jazz was 'hot rats' even though it's a fusion-y affair. that album really made my jaw drop.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

And some Bill Evans, and Ornette Coleman...we're getting back to the overload that LJ was complaining about in the first place. Just listen to Mingus Ah Um and get back to us.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i went to such annoying pains to clarify the sort of art-pop i meant precisely because the phrase can describe so many different things

― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:06 (14 minutes ago)

yeah I know, and I said I didn't think an enormous deal of most of those bands in an art context

thanks everyone! will do so

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link

'Jimmy Smith' reminds me that there were no Jimmy Scott tunes nommed for this poll. For shame.

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:22 (thirteen years ago) link

also I don't rly mean like Steely Dan (although I may well end up getting into them), I mean like Shining, Zorn or Saccharine Trust :P

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

That's a good list! The Brigitte Fontaine is nuts but only tangentially jazz, I'd say - I was thinking earlier I would have voted for the title track if it had been nominated.

― seandalai

Yes maybe you're right... always thought of it as some sort of chamber pop jazz thing and I have it laying around with my other jazz records since I have no idea where else to classify it... perhaps 'les stances a sophie' is a better recommendation.

Here are a few more favorites:

Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda
Art Blakey - Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers [Moanin']
Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch
Larry Young - Lawrence of Newark
Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage
Horace Silver - Song for My Father
Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i second those thelonious monk and a. coltrane records in a big way.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't saved my vote, but I believe I voted for these so far:

119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]
71. THE ZOMBIES "Care of Cell 44" (1968) [1,355 points, 13 votes]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]
60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
56. THE BEACH BOYS "Wouldn't it Be Nice" (1966) [1,460 points, 12 votes]

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Kinda surprised that, other than Kraftwerk, nothing close to synthpop is in the last so far. I guess "Enjoy The Silence" and "Don't You Want Me" may both be in the Top 50 though.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Pet Shop Boys aren't synth-pop?

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I call 'em that.

Geir, I just sent your ballot via ilx mail if you care to have it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Some late responses:

Re: "Sinnerman", I first heard a Bob Dylan version, which was great (where did I hear it? A cursory google's not helping), but the Nina Simone kills. When it appeared at the end of Inland Empire, my whole body froze and I welled up tbh.

9 of my votes showed up, btw, yet regrets? I have a few...

Dr Who, Johnny Cash, as I may have already mentioned, but also (since) Queen and Bowie, "Águas de Março". The latter is exquisite, and I did pay attention on the campaigning thread, but then forgot about it. Elis Regina fans can now kick me.

And as a few others have mentioned, I would have voted "Joga" higher than (and probably in place of) "Hyperballad", so I think Björk might have benefited from different nominations there.

Oh, and as the person who nominated it, I agree "Awaken" is better than "Close to the Edge"!

tubby permacrocked whorefucker (Lostandfound), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i didn't vote but just noticed that my two favourite sons ever were both nominated, will be interested to see if either appears

"Hot Moog Shit" by the Hot Moog Shitters (electricsound), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link

amidst all this jazz talk I would like LJ to know that I voted for THREE Alice Coltrane songs in this poll. Looks like none will place though.

sleeve, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been totally cool w/ the representatives of mid-century jazz on the board. Others otm about Mingus having too many tracks on the list. Could Louie still make it, I wonder? Pretty sure Jellyroll will get snubbed (and for that reason, I snubbed him!) & I think Tito Puente was another who didn't even surface on the nom list. What about Duke Ellington? Prob no T. Monk either..

imo the real glaring oversight of these results has been the complete lack thusfar of any of the old bluesmen. Mississippi, Chicago, Detroit - really any of them. I know those guys are probably at the core of whatever kneejerk anti-rockist sentiment might linger around these parts, but surely they do not deserve to be shut out wholesale?

any thoughts on the chances of "iko iko" making it at this point? fuckin 'yackety sax' better be up there somewhere or I quit ilx!

the 'Friends' experiment (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

sons

songs obv

"Hot Moog Shit" by the Hot Moog Shitters (electricsound), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for both Iko Iko and Yakety Sax. I can't comment, though.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, I voted for a few old bluesmen, but I also can't comment.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Also voted for some blues.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm really curious about what dylan is still left in the mix. it would be extremely refreshing to see the likes of either 'visions of johanna' or 'it's all over now, baby blue' being acknowledged as his most vital track, but i fear my thinking may be of the wishful variety in that regard.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted positively 4th street. list is really really 70s focused, but am happy so many people are giving regina and jobim love, bcz aguas de marco is the best song ever.

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Thursday, 2 December 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

shit i prob shouldn't mention what i actually voted for, but i really dont think it's making the top 50

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Thursday, 2 December 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Pet Shop Boys aren't synth-pop?

Pet Shop Boys became synthpop in 1990 IMO. Has to do with analogue vs. digital synths. They didn't use analogue ones until then.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link

That seems like nitpicking.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think analogue synths are in themselves a signifier of synth-pop.

for the next throbbing minutes (corey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Being Boring is still going to place, right?

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Pet Shop Boys became synthpop in 1990 IMO. Has to do with analogue vs. digital synths. They didn't use analogue ones until then.

Pretty sure they didn't use any after 1990 either.

PEAVEY Ó))) (Ówen P.), Thursday, 2 December 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't tell who is taking the piss anymore but PSB used an extensive array of analogue and digital synths

casual poon (electricsound), Thursday, 2 December 2010 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link

this is why there was once a startrekman

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

before he got all loosey-goosey

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 05:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll veto myself from ILM if not at least one of the following places:

Human League - Being Boiled
Marlena Shaw — The Woman of the Ghetto
The Normal — Warm Leatherette
Gang of Four - Damaged Goods

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 07:08 (thirteen years ago) link

God, I hope "The Woman of the Ghetto" still has a chance. It was my #4 vote, in my opinion it's the best soul song of all time, even beating than anything that Curtis Mayfield or Donny Hathaway or Aretha Franklin ever did.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 08:01 (thirteen years ago) link

like "woman of the ghetto" but don't get the ecstasies, certainly wouldn't hold it up over the best of curtis, aretha, etc. good song though, gets awesome in the 2nd half. for ref:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJx2NnnxA0&feature=related

christ just the last 40 seconds alone. that this was not nominated seems criminal to me.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

^ really, if you've not heard it (imaginary not hearing it person), the last 40 seconds, listen to them

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's a Spotify playlist of the first few tracks (ie up to 100).

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

is any other rap song gonna be top 50? i thought g thang would be the highest one

my beautiful deej twisted fantasy (symsymsym), Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link

there's always "The Message" or "White Lines"

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link

There's no Public Enemy on here yet, and I find it hard to believe they weren't nominated at all.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, Paid In Full.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

*FLAG* I SB'd everybody who dissed "Genius of Love" on here. Cheers guys.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:50 (thirteen years ago) link

There were a couple of Wu nominated and a lot of Nas - would like to see 'Triumph' at least but there must be a chance of splitting for both. 'California Love' maybe most likely now?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

protect ya neck would be great. i voted for a different eric b track sadly...

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:02 (thirteen years ago) link

PE will definitely make it, but they would have been somewhat spavined by vote splitting.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for "Triumph" too, but I assume "Protect Ya Neck" is the one with the biggest chance of making it to the top 50, even though it is one of the weaker tracks on 36 Chambers.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, surely "Planet Rock" will be in the top 50? Many people probably voted for it for historical importance alone.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

People who do stuff like that are idiots imo

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Why would historical importance be a lesser reason for voting than any other?

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Are you calling people who vote in crazy polls idiots?

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Historical importance is a rockist and fully valid way of thinking. :) But IMO subjective taste is the best thing if you vote in a poll. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir otm, as usual.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 December 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure they didn't use any after 1990 either.

These days they probably use softhsynths like virtually anyone else. And the majority of the most popular softsynths are largely based on old analogue models.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Isn't that what they call shifting the goalposts?

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The word 'synths' is probably a bit of a giveaway.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 December 2010 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link

This is a great thread, remarkably civil and readable for 1000+ posts. Praise be to the ILM hive mind. I've added to the tallies of at least 12 tracks.

That being said, and acknowledging we've got 50 - 1 still to go, relatively speaking I would love to see more 50s - early 60s golden oldies (2ish so far); more Motown (just 1); more country (2 not enough); some original blues; a girl group track; and some swing band. Very dad rock taste but it's hard to believe we could go 125 tracks and skip the Buddy Holly, Ray Charles, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, etc. crowd. Roll on top 50.

that's not my post, Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

and paging Bo Diddley and Stevie Wonder, you've got to be coming in for a landing in the top 50.

that's not my post, Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I reckon the only way to get those acts well represented is to make pre-Beatles poll. Which would probably make sense in a lot of ways to try and do.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

(i.e.not Motown of course, but the earlier stuff from the 50s and so on)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Might even be an idea to do a 25-1 pre-Elvis countdown afterwards if things continue in this vein

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:21 (thirteen years ago) link

My guess is that, Elvis aside, a lot of pre-Beatles artists are less likely to suffer from multiple nominations and split vote syndrome and could turn up higher in the poll as a result. Or just be overlooked entirely.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I believe people here would be just as likely to vote for jazz, blues and country as they would be to vote for rock'n'roll or Brill Building pop, so I would think a 50s or earlier would have a rather good stylistic spread (in, those few styles that did even exist then)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks contenderizer, that Aretha track is banging.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Love Rock Steady.

I think it's entirely natural that a poll overwhelmingly voted for by people born in the second half of the 20th C should be dominated by music from that period, and no one should beat themselves (or other people) up about it.

A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, 2 December 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

are you new?

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 December 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Sometimes I feel that way.

A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, 2 December 2010 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

My guess is that, Elvis aside, a lot of pre-Beatles artists are less likely to suffer from multiple nominations and split vote syndrome and could turn up higher in the poll as a result. Or just be overlooked entirely.

I'm not sure if I see the point here. Dylan, Bowie, Beatles, Prince, Rolling Stones, and Beach Boys all had more nominations than Elvis, Billie Holiday, Frank Sinatra or Duke Ellington, but that hasn't stopped them from turning up in the poll (and at least one more track from each of them is still likely to come in the top 50).

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Oops, sorry, I read "more likely" when you actually said "less likely". So I guess we don't disagree.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure multiple nominations killed the chances of Satchmo though, especially considering that his most iconic and well-known tune ("What a Wonderful World") isn't the one people were likely to vote.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe West End Blues for Armstrong. Duke could be Take The A Train.

I do hope some pre rock and roll stuff makes it. It would be hard to take a poll of 20th century music seriously that omits for example. Rhapsody In Blue.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

we all should have co-ordinated our ballots better before the poll. shame on us!

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for stuff based on "historical importance" but I consider historical importance to be a fully subjective quality!

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a pretty sensible basis in a poll based on an era imo

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure multiple nominations killed the chances of Satchmo though, especially considering that his most iconic and well-known tune ("What a Wonderful World") isn't the one people were likely to vote.

One could rather clearly say that Satchmo's biggest hit and most famous song is obviously not very representative of the musical style he has otherwise become famous for.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for stuff based on "historical importance" but I consider historical importance to be a fully subjective quality!

Also a matter of taste of course. My subjective taste is one hundred per cent about sound and zero per cent about context. Which means I like whatever sounds good no matter whether it is innovative and historically important or not. Thus, if Flower Kings makes something that sounds as good as Genesis or Yes at their best (I have to add they haven't quite done it yet), then I will rank them alongside Genesis and Yes. No matter how "derivative" they are.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

But,really, historical importance is not just subjective. For instance, I love a couple of the albums Thompson Twins released in the 80s. But that doesn't mean that they have had any kind of influence of any of today's pop music whatsoever. No matter how good I, personally, think those albumsare.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Who are you and what have you done with Geir?

:)

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Are you guys honestly surprised that a bunch of 20 and 30-something internet nerds' best-of-music list is heavily scewed to 70s and 80s art pop? This wailing and gnashing of teeth to me seems ridiculous, but also sooo ILX. Carry on.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I just voted for whatever I liked. To claim to somehow know which songs from before I was born were the most culturally significant seems a bit dishonest.

peter in montreal, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Coming up...#50...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

50. SCREAMIN' JAY HAWKINS "I Put a Spell on You" (1956) [1,495 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGmXg6WYJ1U

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I can dig it.

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

it's good but I WISH IT WERE OLDER

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^this :(

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

the chord progressions in those horns are disturbing and awesome.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Really glad to see this one make it, I was getting worried it wouldn't. It was in my top 20.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

also I sorta got burned out on the original and decided I preferred the CCR version for a while, but now I am back to appreciating them both!

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the Nina version best. It's so sad.

A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted pretty canon, so not surprised to see a lot of my choices showing up. This one has the distinction of having made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Doesn't quite hit that spot for me anymore, but my 16-year-old self is ecstatic to see it make the list.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

only waltz to show up so far?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

49. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Sister Ray" (1968) [1,551 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDtqbS7DK2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EfSapCA5ls

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yay!!

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

OH YEAH. This was my #1 vote, so much music I love can be traced back to "Sister Ray". I love the (apocryphal?) story that Lou Reed and John Cale disliked each other so much at this point, neither wanted to be the first to stop playing...

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Utterly useless bit of trivia: this is the highest-placing track with 12 votes.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

with screamin' jay, that's 14 of my votes to show up so far. which seems like a lot, but i didn't go for many head-scratchers. would be happy to spend some time with a mixtape of these songs, as they're cheerful, varied and a bit absurd.

thought about voting for sister ray, but didn't. now i'm glad, as it would fuck up my imaginary mixtape.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

speaking of two-part youtubes, somebody should post the real jenny ondioline, so people don't go around thinking the stereolab fans are insane

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah wait'll they hear that it's actually 6 minutes of the same shit and then 4 minutes of the same shit slowed down

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

j/k I love jenny ondioline

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO LOW

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

48. SLY & THE FAMILY STONE "Family Affair" (1971) [1,558 points, 15 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY-a4QbfT7U

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Such an iconic track - I voted "Sing a Simple Song" and "Thank You Falettinme...." instead, but yeah.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Way too low. This was my number three and is probably going to be the highest of mine to appear.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I lol when people say way too low, because there were 2,190 nominations. Placing #48 out of that many is pretty good, no?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for a different Sly & The Family Stone song but this is great; never been a huge fan of 'Sister Ray' but I can't really begrudge it placing; 'I Put A Spell On You' is a nice surprise.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

agree w johnny, nice showing for sly. another of my picks, probably should have thrown it a few more points (wound up in the unranked hinterlands).

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Just listened to Sister Ray in full, gonna play it again!

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

seandalai are you a fan of simply saucer ?

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Never heard of - will check out in about 13 minutes' time. Thanks!

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

47. NEW ORDER "Blue Monday" (1983) [1,571 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftJZomwDhxQ

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Family Affair should be higher. One of the greatest vocal performances you'll ever hear.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Inevitable, I guess. Decent tune.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

It's still my favorite New Order track, at least when I'm not stanning for "Dream Attack" and "Vanishing Point" (like those two ever had a chance).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

46. DESMOND DEKKER & THE ACES "Israelites" (1968) [1,591 points, 15 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWv9sraaCVA

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

shit yeah! love this song, and figured it for a long shot (no idea why). ILX going some distance to redeem this sorry morning.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never heard that Screamin Jay before but WOW. Fucking hell that is dope. Really should pay more attention to the og samples of records i love.

this poll got super fucking awesome in the past two days. sister ray! sly!

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I wish there were more "oh wow" moments like this. Not saying Dekker is a one hit wonder by any means, but I would've liked to have seen more of that instead of multiple appearances by some artists over and over.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Dekker is the nuts, obv :)

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I lol when people say way too low, because there were 2,190 nominations. Placing #48 out of that many is pretty good, no?

― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, December 2, 2010 6:24 PM (32 minutes ago)

You're right, I was just hoping Family Affair would make the top ten it was one of the very few songs on my list I thought that had a chance but 48 is indeed a great result.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Scremin Jay Hawkins! Wow! Never heard it before and as such was surprised it didn't start with "Biggie!"

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't imagine a Sly song that would get more votes than Family Affair.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

just noticed that i've got four of my nominations in the list so far. advantage to getting your ballot in early, i guess...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I had Hot Fun in the Summertime on my list too but yeah Family Affair will be the highest for sure.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Love the muted guitar picking on that Desmond Dekker song. Don't know that much old school ska though, so maybe that's a common enough thing and not really worth remarking on...

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't like 'Israelites' very much, frankly. Why did you guys not vote for 'Shanty Town'? It's a much better song.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

hell yes! nice surprise. a song that has always been one of my failsafe 'mood lighteners' & which I rated just outside my top ten.

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

45. CHIC "Good Times" (1979) [1,604 points, 18 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WB42LA-oOo

This video is bonkers!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

didnt actually vote in this, but "I Put A Spell On You" is one of the greatest tunes ever written imo. I first heard it in Jarmusch's Stranger Than Paradise, and have never heard anything else like it.

Dominique, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes! So happy to see a disco song in the list at last.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't feel there's enough scrolling in this thread.

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

The bass line is great, obviously, but the Chic song just reminds me of aggressively drunk people and the opposite of the feeling that they are extolling.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, but definitely expecting to see Donna Summer in the top ten tbh xxp

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Not my favourite ChicOrg (voted for "Lost in Music") but WOW at that clip.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Good Times was the last song I cut from my list iirc and that was only because I had Wheels of steel

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

44. PULP "Common People" (1995) [1,625 points, 13 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgXzPfAxjo

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

So what's this song about then?

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I never cared at all for Pulp at the height of their fame and at the time my britpop obsession was at its deepest, but I've come around on them big time. I have no qualms whatsoever with "Common People" being considered the 44th best song of the last century.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

bruce foxton getting kicked to death for his curry iirc xp

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Sister Ray and Israelites and I Put A Spell On You are all good times imo, wd everyone

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, it's probably for the best that I've come to them stripped of their association with whatever I was listening to in my early 20s. A lot of that stuff is all garbage to me now. xps to me

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

'common people' isn't as good as schoenberg's piano concerto mvmt #4 or acen's trip 2 the moon but's it's alright so yeah #44 is acceptable

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Pulp are one of the few bands of that era that I still play a lot. I think they have better songs, Babies got my vote but Common People completely deserves to be here.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

It's one of the 4 or 5 best songs of the last 20 years.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's just go ahead and get this next one out of the way, shall we...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for Babies and not Common People!

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

43. NEW ORDER "Temptation" (1982) [1,629 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfRYGVWZilU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

ILM I get that you like New Order, but please.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

woah, I'm stunned

obv the better song between "Temptation" and "Blue Monday" but still

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I love "common people" but still think its just a bit overrated.

billstevejim, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Huh, I thought 'Blue Monday' would be the highest NO. Too many multiple entries.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

god

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

you guys

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

nice shorts!

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd never seen this clip before. Barney looks adorable in his little shorty shorts.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Yay for "I Put a Spell on You" and "Israelites", this is the kinda of variety this poll needs. Both are the kind of tunes that made me immediately realize they're awesome on the first listening, as soon as the singing started.

And "Good Times" is fine as well, though I too had to omit it in favour "Lost in Music" when it came to cutting my initial shortlist into 100 songs. Hopefully "Lost in Music" is still to come, as it is pretty much the best "classic" disco (i.e. non-electronic disco) tune of all time.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

(x-post)

Yeah, I think "Blue Monday" would've been enough NO in the top 100. Three songs is kinda too much.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I love LOVE New Order, but agree completely.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

oh there was a third? I haven't been following super closely

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, "Ceremony" showed up yesterday.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow I just assumed Blue Monday would be it for them. I actually had three New Order songs on my list but none of them have appeared. I'm sure that's it now but Joy Division are surely going to do quite well later on.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god don't remind me

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm

I would have expected "Bizarre Love Triangle" (assuming it was nominated, of course)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Good to see Chic in, I voted for a different one of theirs which I doubt will show up (plus one of their productions which probably won't either).

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

42. DEPECHE MODE "Enjoy the Silence" (1990) [1,640 points, 14 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diT3FvDHMyo

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

ILM I get that you like New Order, but please.

― seandalai, Thursday, December 2, 2010 11:31 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

you forgot "for the love of god." if it's any consolation, i'm sure we've got like six joy division tracks to go.

and some depeche mode.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

And here's yet another song from my top 25 to show up today. Great melody, great lyrics, basically the perfect pop-rock hit. Nice list today so far.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't vote for any New Order, I don't really have a clear favourite song of theirs. 'Bizarre Love Triangle' or 'Vanishing Point' maybe. Not one of these three.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

btw this will only be redeemed if the cure show up soon

gonna sleep this off i think

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

there are other DM songs I like a lot more ("Stripped", "Never Let Me Down Again", "Shame", "Shake The Disease", "Waiting For The Night", "Freelove", "Tora! Tora! Tora!", "Fly on the Windscreen", "Precious", etc etc etc etc) but as far as group consensus picks go, I am finally at the point where I can live with it being "Enjoy The Silence"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

got something to stay up late for ? ;)

xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

x post What about Electronic? Did anyone nominate any Revenge songs? The Other two?

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"Behind the Wheel" will always be my go-to DM song, but I don't think it got nominated.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

can't wait for Freebass to sweep the 21st century poll top ten

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

haha as if Revenge would have had a chance

(I mean, I like the "Gun World Porn" EP and "Slave", but let's get real for a second; best of the decade? Not a chance in hell.)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Enjoy the Silence is a very well structured song. Some of the production touches are a little misguided but there isn't a note out of place.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't say they're misguided so much as of their time.

captayn cronch (crüt), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i kind of expect to hear from one more new order song

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

which one, "Regret"?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

The most times one artist is represented in the top 125 is four. Maybe it's New Order, maybe it isn't.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

feel retrospectively stupid for not nominating any bernard herrmann. taxi driver theme, at least, maybe psycho. and i seriously meant to get neil hefti's batman theme in at the last minute, but spaced. regrets, always...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

number 41...A Day In The Life xp

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm going to feel kind of bad if anymore New Order appears, I had one of their songs in my top five.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

41. PRINCE "Little Red Corvette" (1982) [1,651 points, 15 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5mgRFSCDO8

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

hott

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The most times one artist is represented in the top 125 is four. Maybe it's New Order, maybe it isn't.

I'm guessing The Beach Boys.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

regret aye

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Really surprised this is higher than Kiss, I thought When Doves Cry would be the only other song of his with a chance.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

The most times one artist is represented in the top 125 is four. Maybe it's New Order, maybe it isn't.

So it is Prince then.

Never understood why people rate "Little Red Corvette" so high, it's one of the most boring tunes on 1999. Just a basic rocker with nothing particularly great about it.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, 1999 has tunes that are catchier ("1999", "Let's Pretend We're Married"), more danceable (most of them), and freakier ("Lady Cab Driver"), what's special about this one?

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

it's fucking great, for one

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

for two: "And the ride was so smooth/YOU MUST BE A LIMOUSINE"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

It's the best song he ever did, for three

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

well let's not go crazy

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Being danceable is probably third in line when I isolating the qualities in a Prince song.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I=I'm

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks like Tuomas just doesn't like rock music

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Being danceable is probably third in line when I isolating the qualities in a Prince song.

It doesn't matter in what order you rate the qualities, my point is that even though "Little Red Corvette" is not bad, the album it's on has other tunes that beat it no matter what yardstick you're using. And if you look at Prince's whole career, it certainly ain't his second best tune of them all.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

show us your yardstick

wait, i think you already have

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, that's true. I'd probably rate HALF of the songs on Sign O The Times higher than Little Red Corvette, but that in no way diminshes what a tasty piece of pop songwriting it is.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

40. PUBLIC ENEMY "Bring the Noise" (1987) [1,659 points, 16 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvy7MWjfVPE

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i never really got "little red corvette", aside from being O_O at the lyrics as a kid. i mean, it's obviously a catchy song, but far from a personal favorite. would take the likes of "when doves cry", "erotic city", "when you were mine", "controversy", "kiss", "sexuality", even "raspberry beret" or "sign o' the times" over it.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

and fuck yeah, btw

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

2nd one of mine today.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

P.E!!! Bought Nation of Millions on the back of, I think, NME calling it the greatest rock n roll album of the year. Love this.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Why are so many of these brilliant amazing genius songs showing up here??? It's a sin against god I tell ya

billstevejim, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

great tune, obv, tho I put my money/preference on Black Steel, which hopefully still has a chance?

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I voted for 5 Public Enemy tracks, so hopefully Black Steel will show up.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think this is the first poll in which I've participated and actually enjoyed the results. I also think this is the most whining I've ever seen in any poll results thread. If everyone wanted each artist represented once in the poll this should have been a best artists of the 20th century poll instead of a tracks poll. There are several songs and artists in this poll which I fucking hate, but I expected to see the Beach Boys, Beatles and shit turn up multiple times so what's the use in whining?

I rarely listen to any music made before 1967 and I am not going to apologize for not voting for music I rarely listen to. Besides, Esquivel wasn't nominated, none of my Serge Gainsbourg faves were nominated, my favourite Billie Holiday songs were given to other singers in the noms, etc. Also, just because something was first doesn't mean it was best.

Still hoping for an onslaught of Fall songs to really drive you all batty.

Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I also think this is the most whining I've ever seen in any poll results thread.
You didn't read this ILM poll, did you?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

oops that should be a quote. Im not agreeing with him, haha

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

bummed that i didn't get a chance to vote for "raise the roof", but very happy to see this show

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

& re ken burt: i realize that my axe grinding against a few decades of vaguely arty UK pop is kinda crazy, but i can't help it, i was drawn this way

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Regret not voting for this now, what a song.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

39. THE UNDERTONES "Teenage Kicks" (1978) [1,703 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oskM5XD_Yc4

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

yay

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted this cos it's great, and also for Peel tbh.

Hey Christian, Poulsen Sugar On Me (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't love this song as much as John Peel did (who does?), but I like it fine.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

This song is a good time.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

running out of "fuck yeah!" over here. five of my favorites made it this morning alone. still feel like there's something i'm forgetting to complain about...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

You didn't read this ILM poll, did you?

Hah, I did. I voted in it, too.

Contenderizer I wasn't even thinking of you specifically. But to see so many people bitching after every entry gets posted is kinda annoying.

Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok this is the first song in the whole list I really don't like. I don't even know why, it just annoys me.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh, the bitching is one of my favorite parts. Yet, EVERY TIME there's a new poll, people still vote the same way.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

this mean "another girl, another planet" has a shot?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

38. DEEE-LITE "Groove Is in the Heart" (1990) [1,732 points, 16 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4D1HSL7P98

Might I just add here...FUCK YEAH!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

this poll gets better with like every group of 5

GROOVE IS IN THE HEART :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

this mean "another girl, another planet" has a shot?

that would be awesome

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

This song makes me so happy:)

babel on (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Me too.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't feel there's enough scrolling in this thread.

― Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris)

This thread was made for bookmarks.

***

I learned from voting in another similar poll on another board some years ago *whew* that limiting yourself to one choice per artist isn't a great strategy if you want to see your favourite artists/tracks actually place. If you really dig something, you have to represent.

I voted (unweighted) for both "Black Steel" and "Burn Hollywood Burn" (which is a strong enough song to survive even Ice Cube's wretched cameo) but not "Bring the Noise"; could have, glad to see it place.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

struggled with GIITH for a moment, then cut it without regret. still had "genius of love", after all. glad that others took up the slack.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Even if these results are a little too post-1960 centric, it would be a radio station I'd listen to all the time.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Think that's what we can aspire to.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

37. THE SMITHS "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out" (1986) [1,787 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRtW1MAZ32M

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

see, i didn't even say anything mean

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

there are so many better Smiths songs, but this is a good one

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Even if these results are a little too post-1960 centric, it would be a radio station I'd listen to all the time.

Yeah, this is definitely true for me... as the list stands now, anyway. I am worried the top 25 will be a Beach Boys/Beatles golden oldies marathon (and I like the Beach Boys... just don't want to see five of their songs cluttering up the top end of the chart).

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Unlike 'How Soon Is Now', this one's not lost any of its shine over the years. Beautiful song.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

See I feel the exact opposite; I adored TIALTNGO when I first heard it but time has made it seem, well, I guess desperate and reaching? Whereas "How Soon Is Now?" is still as shattering as the first time I heard it.

I'd take the aggro Smiths songs over them, tho

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

From what I can remember of the Smiths noms I took 'How Soon Is Now?' and 'Queen Is Dead' over anything else.

babel on (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, "The Queen Is Dead", "Sweet and Tender Hooligan", "London"... I love it when they rock out

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

36. MARVIN GAYE "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" (1968) [1,863 points, 16 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7dGdrP3pms

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Looking at my list I find that somehow I failed to vote for this. For shame!!

babel on (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, "The Queen Is Dead", "Sweet and Tender Hooligan", "London"... I love it when they rock out

'What She Said' is another good one.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Second of my votes to place today! Love Marvin.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

'The Queen Is Dead' would've been my Smiths pick too. Still love 'There Is a Light' though, especially the shimmering outro.

Craigo Boingo, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

"There's a Light..." is every 16 year old girl's fave Smiths song. Great song, but still.

kate78, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd never seen this Montreux performance before, but wow.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

There Is a light yt single handedly chose my nights listening. Gonna go to work with hatful of hollow and the queen is dead and shuffle away further into my physche

marvin is great and i much prefer this to anything off the kinda overrated whats going on

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

amazing run today. good enough to make me feel somewhat forgiving towards Morrissey's mopey intrusion even.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for a different Marvin song (this is happening a lot tonight...) but not going to argue with this.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, my track picks are hitting like gangbusters today. Good work ppl!

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I voted for Inner City Blues instead, but any of what was nominated for Marvin was worthy of placing.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah, "What She Said"!

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

re martin video - guy on tamborine needs .gif-fing

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

"...Grapevine" is a little overplayed for me - those California Raisins didn't help - but that clip is several kinds of awesome.

I would have voted for "What's Happening Brother" if it was nominated.

Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

35. SONIC YOUTH "Teen Age Riot" (1988) [1,865 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iJoWfXIXb8

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i might actually like the creedence version slightly more /blasphemy

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

ok i adore SY but no way in hell does that belong on any such list!

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

21 people (the largest total so far) thought otherwise.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

ioannis otm

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

hatersgonnahate.gif

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think creedence covered teenage riot...

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

too lazy to type xp

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

xp lol

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I was one of the 21!

babel on (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

sonic youth were the only band with multiple songs on my ballot. I didn't vote for teenage riot though.

peter in montreal, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm gonna post a few quicker than normal because I've got to go somewhere in a little over an hour.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

cue bad moon rising joke...

xps

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted The Diamond Sea for SY; never understood the fuzz about Teen Age Riot, it's not even the best track on that album.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

xp
Which means it was on about 1 in 4 ballots I think.

babel on (pandemic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

34. THE FLAMINGOS "I Only Have Eyes for You" (1959) [1,867 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fh3BFYQfzU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Now that is one fifties song I *did* vote for. Transcendent.

Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

nice!

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

aw, that should have been top 10

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa, awesome placement!

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

like ioannis, i love sonic youth, even voted for "schizophrenia", but "teenage riot" does nothing for me

made up for by the flamingos, such a gorgeous song, though i didn't vote for it

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

This was a surprise to me - is it considered canon? Great to see it anyway.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Hell yeah. I love Alt-Rock Gold as much as the next man but something a little older was long overdue.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

This was a surprise to me - is it considered canon?

as far as I know that is considered one of the greatest songs of all time

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

After I first heard this I spent a while going through loads of doo-wop trying and failing to find something as eerie and magical.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

makes me wonder: anyone else vote for "sea of love"? it is eerie and magical.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, that came out of nowhere as far as I'm concerned. Has it been featured in a Lynch film or something? It has that '50s eeriness down perfectly.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

flamingos is peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerfect.

are any other doo wap records as anywhere as great?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

(I have heard it before, by the way, just never really sat down and listened to it, and certainly didn't expect it to be here. xpost to self)

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

emil.y - the buffy the vampire slayer episode named after it is p. great viewing, dunno about movies.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

as far as I know that is considered one of the greatest songs of all time

34th greatest anyway...somehow I'd never heard it before this poll, really glad to have discovered it.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure my best friend proposed to his wife with that as the soundtrack.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for "Sea of Love" too.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

What other pre-1960 songs are dead certs for the top 33? Strange Fruit, surely.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

"I Only Have Eyes For You" was used in "American Graffiti"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

was it also used in the wonder years?

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

The more I think about it, the more a 50s tracks poll sounds like a good idea. I'll put that on the to-do list for 2011.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

didnt we already do a 50s poll?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

"I Only Have Eyes For You" was used in "American Graffiti"

if you say so, gramps.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't looked. If so, I didn't catch it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Wikipedia sez so

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

also i thought 11 was designated 00s music poll time

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

What other pre-1960 songs are dead certs for the top 33? Strange Fruit, surely.

― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, December 2, 2010 1:28 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah, i'm almost certain that's in. better be...

i meant to nominate the ink spots' "i don't want to set the world on fire" from 1941, but forgot. frown. suspect it would have had a decent shot at the top 100.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

just say oh noes.

xp

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, "The Queen Is Dead", "Sweet and Tender Hooligan", "London"... I love it when they rock out

― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP)

Yeah, the Smiths are often derided/adored for their mopy side, but I'm with you: I love them as a real rock band. The first half of Louder Than Bombs is desert-island stuff for me.

***

Flamingos WTF! What a great song; can't believe I've never (rememberingly) heard it before! Will be on full repeat for days. Makes up for myriad sins and omissions.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7AZIvDD5Lw

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

The chorus is haunting in the Flamingos track -- that has to be one of the crunchiest chords in canon pop. Sonic Youth doesn't count

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

better quality youtube vid here: 63nlhoda2MY

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Am I right in thinking that JF hinted that there was going to be at least one pre-50s track still to come?

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that Flamingos song is great and a total curveball. I need that Rhino doo-wop boxed set don't I.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

see, in my mind that song isn't a curveball at all, largely because it's one of the doo-wop songs my dad played incessantly while I was growing up

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

33. FUNKADELIC "Maggot Brain" (1971) [1,908 points, 16 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh3bleXWaCk

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, the only doo-wop song my dad ever played was "The Longest Time" xp

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

That Ink Spots song was in the nominations, btw.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

maggot brain sucks dudes sorry

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

That Ink Spots song was in the nominations, btw.

Man, how did I miss it?! I should've voted for it, I love that tune!

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for Maggot Brain - possibly wouldn't have been my choice of Funkadelic, but it definitely doesn't suck.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for the Ink Spots song. That and 'Java Jive' are two of my favorite songs in this style.

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

that ink spots track is sooo much better than Maggot Brain.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I first heard "I Put a Spell on You" in Jim Jarmusch's Stranger than Paradise, in which it figures fairly prominently, in a way.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreed.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

(x-post)

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I wanted to vote for 'super stupid' by Funkadelic but it wasn't in the noms. Don't really care about Maggot Brain.

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I might turn into noodle vague with those anti maggot brain comments
xps

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

32. JOY DIVISION "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (1980) [1,909 points, 18 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUcv7UMW4Ck

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

milk is so much better than orange juice. discuss.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Maggot Brain is okay, but it has too much guitar.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

ILM <3 Peter Hook.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a guitar jam, though. I don't have a strong opinion on Maggot Brain one way or another, but it wouldn't have been recorded if it was played on xylophone.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

And Love Will Tear Us Apart would've been a great pop tune if the band had had a better singer and they'd mixed the vocals higher. What's up with the mix on that song?

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

id rather see "yeah this is a great track " rather than "oh no i hate this track i wish it hadn't placed"

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet you like Paul Young's version then? xp

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Maggot Brain is okay, but it has too much guitar.

I may never recover my breath again, still laughing so hard at this.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

who knew tuomas would have a challenging opinion about maggot brain?

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

That Ink Spots song was in the nominations, btw.

― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, December 2, 2010 1:42 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

was it? crap, i can't believe i missed it! what i get for making a shoddy last-minute rush job of my ballot. one of my all-time favorites, and i'd hate to think my sloth kept it out of the running. on the other hand, if it was in the list, maybe it still has a shot?

speaking of oldies i didn't vote for, was really hoping that "smoke gets in your eyes" would show up. feeling like a long shot at this point, boo.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

ILM <3 Peter Hook.

My favorite Hooky bit in this track is when he incorporates the melody from "Then He Kissed Me" into the song's climax

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

this poll gets better with like every group of 5

Isn't this supposed to be the case?

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't vote for it but a classic track all around.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

wasn't "Love Will Keep Us Together" nominated?

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

was really hoping that "smoke gets in your eyes" would show up. feeling like a long shot at this point, boo.

That was my #1. It did not place (as mentioned upthread somewhere).

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone watch that JD video? Not very exciting , but it has lolBono singing the chorus to it and fucking it up.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet you like Paul Young's version then? xp

It's a bit too slow, I think the tune needs a higher tempo. And Paul Young isn't a particularly good singer either. I wish someone would do a good uptempo synth pop version of Love Will... and redeem it.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

dear god i love maggot brain! proud as hell to have voted for it, and thrilled to see it show. could listen to it for days, my favorite single piece of rock guitar music ever. does throw off my mixtape though. maybe i can end with it...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I could do that for you tuomas, if you raise the funds for me to go into the studio

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Not very exciting , but it has lolBono singing the chorus to it and fucking it up.

btw, good work ILX on keeping this poll 100% Bono-free.

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

BTW, my Maggot Brain comment was supposed to be a gag, in case you didn't get it. It's a good tune, but extended guitar solos have never been my thing. Granted, in that category it must be the best example I've ever heard.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah for everyone who voted for 'teenage kicks' I don't think I'll ever get bored of that song, I've been hearing it for seven years now and I still get the same rush everytime.

useless trivia: I originally thought it was a woman singing, not a man. I was very confused when I first saw a youtube of them recording the song.

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

31. THE BEATLES "A Day in the Life" (1967) [1,933 points, 18 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6dy_XZrx-4

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh dear god Tuomas do you have no concept of personality within music?

xpost noooooo. It begins.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I could do that for you tuomas, if you raise the funds for me to go into the studio

Send me a tape of you singing it and we'll see what we can do.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i got the news today...

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, good work ILX on keeping this poll 100% Bono-free.

With or Without You was really high up my ballot, but SPOILER it does remain Bono-free.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

my fave beatles song

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

"A Day In The Life" is a great song (probably the best off of Sgt Pepper)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Not very exciting , but it has lolBono singing the chorus to it and fucking it up.

btw, good work ILX on keeping this poll 100% Bono-free.

― kelolpapyrus (Pillbox)

These 3 songs were nominated:

U2 — New Year's Day
U2 — Pride (In the Name of Love)
U2 — With or Without You

I think there's a good chance none of them will make it but you never know.

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a bit too slow, I think the tune needs a higher tempo. And Paul Young isn't a particularly good singer either. I wish someone would do a good uptempo synth pop version of Love Will... and redeem it.

― Tuomas, Thursday, December 2, 2010 9:55 PM (1 minute ago)

Have you heard of Bis? They did a synth version of it a few years ago but the vocals are a bit more computerised.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

those are three bomb-ass U2 songs btw

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

was "He Hit Me (And It Felt Like A Kiss)" nominated?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

'Day in the Life' seemed to me like the most 'important' of the Beatles songs nominated. Is this the higher they will go?

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Since JF has already spoiled, this was the top U2 song:

677 U2 - With or Without You 449 4 0

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Good to see "A Day In The Life" in there. Hopefully there is still "Strawberry Fields Forever" to come (and if "Tomorrow Never Knows" or "Rain" is also up there, The Beatles may well be the one act with four entries in the list - even with this being ILM)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not really appreciating the top 50 at all
The results are all feeling like 'ILXors of a Certain Age' (and certain mentality to boot)

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh dear god Tuomas do you have no concept of personality within music?

Sure, but my hatred of rock music has also made me highly allergic of rock guitars and especially rock guitar solos. "Maggot Brain" is one of the few examples where I've managed to mostly get over that allergy to appreciate the tune for what it is.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

its 1 billion times better than penny lane.
djp there's only 2 great songs on sgt peppers though!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

The vocal is louder in the Peel session version of LWTUA and also in the alternate version on the single. I didn't vote for it, but I'm pleased that it's here.

"Maggot Brain" always blows my mind. It sounded particularly good here today.

Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

why do you hate rock music, Tuomas?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Keep in mind, I said the most appearances by a single artist is four. I didn't say that only applies to one artist.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

XXX-Post Virtually everything The Beatles did in 1967 was great.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

YES to 'Maggot Brain', glad I voted for that one; 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' I'm not so keen on anymore; 'A Day in the Life' never gets old - didn't vote for it but it deserves to be up here.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

XXX-Post Virtually everything The Beatles did in 1967 was great.

― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, December 2, 2010 5:03 PM

HAHA I made almost the exact OPPOSITE statement upthread.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Fuck me - "A Day In The Life?!?!" It's no "Totally Wired." Etc.

Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

'Maggot Brain' made such a huge impression the first time I heard it - I bought the album never hearing a note and there was no way I was expecting THAT.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh dear god Tuomas do you have no concept of personality within music?

Sure, but my hatred of rock music has also made me highly allergic of rock guitars and especially rock guitar solos. "Maggot Brain" is one of the few examples where I've managed to mostly get over that allergy to appreciate the tune for what it is.

I was actually referring to your comments on 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'. I love some Funkadelic but cut them from my list in the end.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

30. THE JACKSON 5 "I Want You Back" (1969) [1,953 points, 18 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZt16gVNHGI

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

djp there's only 2 great songs on sgt peppers though!

That album is weird in that I think it justifies its canonical status as a body of work, but most of the individual songs are weak.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Never having heard a note I mean (xxxp)

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Another song I didn't even think of voting for but as soon as I hear it I know I'll regret not putting it on my list.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

'Day in the Life' seemed to me like the most 'important' of the Beatles songs nominated. Is this the higher they will go?

― Moka, Thursday, December 2, 2010 2:00 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark

well, "strawberry fields forever", of course. that hasn't shown up yet, has it?

i didn't give much love to the beatles, voting only for "and your bird can sing" and "she said she said", neither of which i expect to see make the cut. odd thing is that they aren't really my favorite beatles songs, but i've heard my favorites so very many times by now. anyway, i'm really glad that "a day in the life" did so well, blew my mind out when i was a kid (not necessarily in a car).

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

"love will tear us apart" is devoid of personality, consisting only of affect and intensity (albeit an easy mistake to make)

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I Want You Back = greatest bassline ever?

Satantango! (Matt #2), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Where's 'Totally Wired' btw? I think a lot of us voted for it. Really want The Fall to show up eventually.

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never really had a clear favourite Beatles song but in the last few months I've really come around to 'You Never Give Me Your Money', so I voted for that. It's like a mini-Abbey Road medley.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

hopefully we won't be seeing any more michael jackson.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

OUT

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

This next one surprised the hell out of me by staying #1 for a while in early returns...it dropped.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

voted for "She Loves You." yeah yeah yeah!

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

"love will tear us apart" is devoid of personality, consisting only of affect and intensity (albeit an easy mistake to make)

Yeah, this is a completely groundless assertion.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

'Day in the Life' seemed to me like the most 'important' of the Beatles songs nominated. Is this the higher they will go?

― Moka, Thursday, December 2, 2010 2:00 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark

well, "strawberry fields forever", of course. that hasn't shown up yet, has it?

i didn't give much love to the beatles, voting only for "and your bird can sing" and "she said she said", neither of which i expect to see make the cut. odd thing is that they aren't really my favorite beatles songs, but i've heard my favorites so very many times by now. anyway, i'm really glad that "a day in the life" did so well, blew my mind out when i was a kid (not necessarily in a car).

― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer)

If I had to vote for any of the Beatles songs nominated I think I'd go for any of those two, coincidentally. I've never been an active hater/lover of the Beatles but 'Revolver' and 'Rubber Soul' are the ones that I appreciate the most. Maybe I'd even place 'Magical mystery tour' as top 3 of their recordings for me.

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

29. THE MODERN LOVERS "Roadrunner" (1972) [1,957 points, 18 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ6cNGhdgEU

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

hopefully we won't be seeing any more michael jackson.

I'd have no problems seeing "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" or "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" winning this poll.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

uh

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

This next one surprised the hell out of me by staying #1 for a while in early returns...it dropped.

― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever)

Which means I probably voted fot it!

xxpost: YES!

Moka, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

That would have been an awesome #1. Sadly, I ended up cutting it out of my ballot in a mad slashing session.

Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

cant wait for the reaction of Tuomas to this one..

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Wooo, Modern Lovers. My absolute favourites weren't nominated, but 'Roadrunner' is such a stand-alone song.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes! This song is absolute perfection. Classic opening to one of the best albums ever made.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

oh jeez, how did I not vote for I Want You Back.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

That album is weird in that I think it justifies its canonical status as a body of work, but most of the individual songs are weak.

They aren't, but they suddenly seemed very irrelevant in the wake of punk, and, later, in the wake of the R&B/hip-hop/dance revolution. The album was extremely influential of virtually anything that happened in progressive rock/grownup rock until the mid 70s.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i voted for it, too. an all time favorite, and one of surprisingly few even borderline "punk" songs to have made my list.

said welcome to the spirit of 1956
patient in the bushes next to '57

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

"Roadrunner" is exactly the sort of rock song I will never learn to understand. Dude is a bad singer, there's no catchy melody, nor is the song rhythmically or sonically interesting. Any of these four things might make me dig a song, but since they're all missing I don't see what's the point. The only good thing are the "radio on" shouts towards the end.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, it's not a terrible, ear-piercing song either, just a completely generic rock tune.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

was Subway Sect - Ambition nominated? That should be in the top 10!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I truly am happy, Tuomas, you continue to play along despite not liking so many songs. Find it refreshing to hear from someone outside the echo chamber tbh.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not really appreciating the top 50 at all
The results are all feeling like 'ILXors of a Certain Age' (and certain mentality to boot)

If you think of this as "ILX's favorite songs of all time," then this is a pretty reasonable result, with a few gross exceptions. It's only when you think of it as "the 20th Century's Best Tracks" as polled by ILM, that I begin to think that ILM, collectively, just wasn't up to this sort of task.

But this was basically what I expected out of this poll from the very beginning anyway, and treated it as such, and constructed my nominations and ballot (which I wouldn't nec defend against the top 100 here) with that in mind hoping to have maximum impact. So it was partially a self-fulfilling prophecy on my part, but I think also good judgment.

Two Red Ducks, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

28. SAM COOKE "A Change Is Gonna Come" (1964) [1,968 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48K5Y0421Ig

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

yes!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh I would play "Bamboo Banger" about a million and a half times before I ever played "Roadrunner"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

thank god for youtube, so much instant gratification.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

You can say what you like about critics, and their tendency to turn the subjective into objective. But when it comes to attempting to put together a representative "objective" list of songs from 1900-2000, then a bunch of professional music critics probably would have been more qualified to to a better job.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Another of my votes, brilliant.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought that's what ILM was
xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I love the transition from the schmaltzy violins into Cooke's vocal. The orchestration doesn't change much but his voice somehow tames it.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Not surprised to see it this way up, but I personally like earlier Sam Cooke much better. "You Send Me", "Only Sixteen", "Wonderful World" and "Cupid" were all among the best songs made pre-Beatles.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

So far the only regret I have in not voting in this poll is not getting "I want you back" higher in the standings. Probably would've been my #1. WTF is wrong with you people? Lower than Roadrunner? Really?

Fetchboy, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

(deep breath) agree 100% with geir about the track-by-track songwriting quality of sgt. peppers. a lot of it is very light, seemingly simple, almost childish, but that hardly makes it bad. maybe it's easier from this distance to respect something like "a day in the life", but there's so much other great stuff on the album: "lovely rita meter maid", "lucy in the sky with diamonds", "she's leaving home", "within you without you", the title track, "fixing a hole", even "when i'm sixty-four".

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I shouldn't really get into it on this thread, but pretty much the thing I hate the most in discussions of music is the trope of 'good singing'. Urgh.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"Roadrunner" is exactly the sort of rock song I will never learn to understand. Dude is a bad singer, there's no catchy melody, nor is the song rhythmically or sonically interesting. Any of these four things might make me dig a song, but since they're all missing I don't see what's the point. The only good thing are the "radio on" shouts towards the end.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:21 (6 minutes ago)

Listen to the lyrics dude

Craigo Boingo, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"Cupid" is one of, if not THE, best vocals of the last century to me. Sam Cooke could really do no wrong, and I wouldn't have flinched at all if he had gotten four places in these results.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Bad singing became almost a goal in itself within some circles from Velvet Underground onwards.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I love the ML & that album to death, but I never got why "Roadrunner" was singled out as their signature tune. I always kind of thought of it as a watered-down rehash of 'Sister Ray." I'd rate "Pablo Picasso" or "I'm Straight" far above it, anyway.

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Hell yeah, "A Change Is Gonna Come", that was in my top 25. When I first heard it it made me cry, for the beauty of the composition, the purity of Sam Cooke's voice, and of course the message. Out of all the civil rights movement inspired songs I think only "People Get Ready" has equal power. (And I hope we'll see that one too in the poll.)

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

There were a few other Sam Cooke songs on the noms list I think but yeah, 'Cupid' is also sublime.

For what it's worth I'm also in the pro-Sgt. Pepper camp.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Coming late to the party tonight, but can I just rewind it a bit and say that Dee-Lite video is probably my favourite ever

Porpoises Rescue Dick Van Dyke (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

So far the only regret I have in not voting in this poll is not getting "I want you back" higher in the standings. Probably would've been my #1. WTF is wrong with you people? Lower than Roadrunner? Really?

i personally like like "roadrunner" better than "i want you back", but i'd never argue that it's a better or a more important song. i wouldn't even say that it belongs in a list like this, but i love it enough not to care. and it's not like oddball 70s proto-punk is overrepresented in the list in general.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

The Dee-Lite video is surely a great video. A great example of a type of video that I have to admit is not my favourite kind (the fashgion clothes ad influenced early 90s videos - see also C&C Music Factory). The song is also OK, and I remember being very surprised that the album is indeed quite good as a whole.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I shouldn't really get into it on this thread, but pretty much the thing I hate the most in discussions of music is the trope of 'good singing'. Urgh.

When I listen to music, I want to listen to someone who's good at doing it. (That doesn't mean they have to play anything complex, you can be good at doing very simple things.) Rock is the only genre where being bad at what you do is actually appreciated, and that's something I'll never understand.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

do you not like Elvis?

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes. He was a good singer, that Roadrunner dude is not.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's be clear; you are talking about "punk", not "rock", and even there the line between intention and capability is a lot blurrier than you think it is.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I love "Roadrunner" and Modern Lovers in general (though I'll agree w/Pillbox that they've got stronger songs), but I can't think of any song that even approaches "i Want you Back" in the instantly-makes-me-smile-and-forget-all-of-my-worries-and-want-to-dance category. Whenever I'm faced with a 40-minute plus night tram ride home after a night out I just put that song on repeat and I'm back home and tucked into bed before I know it.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Tuomas turned into Geir while I wasnt paying attention.

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's be clear; you are talking about "punk", not "rock", TO TUOMAS and even there the line between intention and capability is a lot blurrier than you think it is.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

you always got a brutha's back

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Tuomas must love opera

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i wish i cld more easily why road runner isn't just a generic rock song etc

but it is difficult to do that purely in formal rather than 'rock-historical' terms

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not like Geir, I can (and do) appreciate completely abstract and melody-free music, or music that's just beats, if it's crafted well.

Tuomas, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

When I listen to music, I want to listen to someone who's good at doing it. (That doesn't mean they have to play anything complex, you can be good at doing very simple things.)

Jonathan Richman is good at sounding like Jonathan Richman. In fact, I'd say he's the best at sounding like Jonathan Richman. Thus, according to your criterion, I win.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Rock is the only genre where being bad at what you do is actually appreciated

Then you should love long and technically skilled guitar solos, but from my understanding you hate them more than virtually everything else in rock.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I love opera! But I also love Ministry's The Land of Rape and Honey

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

In fact, I'd say he's the best at sounding like Jonathan Richman.

Gordon Gano does a pretty good Jonathan Richman.

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

27. ? & THE MYSTERIANS "96 Tears" (1966) [1,987 points, 17 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgfnCTp3p7U

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

A lot of metal singers are great technically (as geir says with guitarists) but that doesn't stop me hating a whole load of it. Nightwish? yuck! I like a voice with character rather than one that hits all the notes but still isn't really doing anything. (im sure that can be said about guitars too)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

now this is a great tune

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, wasn't expecting that.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I love opera! But I also love Ministry's The Land of Rape and Honey

yeah, but you're weird. (in a VERY good way, of course. just sayin'.)

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

GET IN THERE!

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Jonathan Richman is also good at sounding like Lou Reed, like a lot of others.
Now I find that is not really so much to aim at. Lou Reed is actually a great songwriter whenever he wants to (I mean, he wrote "Perfect Day", "Sunday Morning", "Candy Says" and "Who Loves The Sun", all really great songs!) but I don't see why he would need to influence anyone as a singer. Because he is horrible as a singer.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Catching up a little earlier tonight - brilliant work again, all. Things I have enjoyed tonight:

- 'Groove Is In The Heart' is much better than I remember it, and I liked it a lot anyway
- how intense Barney is in the studio
- the tight choreography in 'I Want You Back', they must've truly been the hardest-working band in showbusiness

There's much too much New Order/Joy Division though, and the overrepresentation of the indie lineage is coming through strong for me too now. Lose three-quarters of that stuff and we'd be getting near something definitive imo, at least for the Elvis age onwards.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Sam Cooke?! What's the deal with all this tosh making the list with, like, more than two chords and people singing on key?

Better get some Shaggs up in this bitch ASAP.

Kent Burt, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

viva la raza!

xps

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

they must've truly been the hardest-working band in showbusiness

Their dad wasn't going to have it any other way.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

27. ? & THE MYSTERIANS "96 Tears" (1966) [1,987 points, 17 votes]

haha I was all "what the hell song is that" and then I clicked the youtube and went "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Must be some Sabbath & Zeppelin coming, right? Maiden? Bill Magill will get angry if not. (especially if there's no guns n roses)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

God, if the Shaggs make it I promise I will not say another negative word in this thread.

Also much love for '96 Tears', but let's get a bit more variation going on again. Any classical to come?

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"?" is a weird-ass dude.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Gordon Gano does a pretty good Jonathan Richman.

imo Gordan Gano > Jonathan Richman, largely because he is better at singing

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I covered '96 Tears' once but think I've probably forgotten how to play the keyboard line now.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate to drop #26 without fanfare and run for the day, but here she be...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

26. BOB DYLAN "Like a Rolling Stone" (1965) [2,025 points, 19 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvL0pXXAO4A

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

There's much too much New Order/Joy Division though, and the overrepresentation of the indie lineage is coming through strong for me too now. Lose three-quarters of that stuff and we'd be getting near something definitive imo, at least for the Elvis age onwards.

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:48 (5 minutes ago)

'definitive' is the last thing you ought to hope for in these polls

else, why ilx? why not [august publication] instead

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Too high!

daavid, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

To recap

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin" (1967) [1,231 points, 11 votes]
97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
86. AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
82. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
79. (TIE) NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,325 points, 14 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
71. THE ZOMBIES "Care of Cell 44" (1968) [1,355 points, 13 votes]
70. BIG STAR "Thirteen" (1972) [1,362 points, 14 votes]
69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]
66. GETO BOYS "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" (1991) [1,395 points, 13 votes]
65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]
64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]
57. (TIE) DR. DRE ft. SNOOP DOGG "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang" (1992) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
56. THE BEACH BOYS "Wouldn't it Be Nice" (1966) [1,460 points, 12 votes]
55. QUEEN ft. DAVID BOWIE "Under Pressure" (1981) [1,475 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes]
54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]
52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender" (1978) [1,493 points, 15 votes]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

50. SCREAMIN' JAY HAWKINS "I Put a Spell on You" (1956) [1,495 points, 17 votes]
49. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Sister Ray" (1968) [1,551 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]
48. SLY & THE FAMILY STONE "Family Affair" (1971) [1,558 points, 15 votes]
47. NEW ORDER "Blue Monday" (1983) [1,571 points, 14 votes]
46. DESMOND DEKKER & THE ACES "Israelites" (1968) [1,591 points, 15 votes]
45. CHIC "Good Times" (1979) [1,604 points, 18 votes]
44. PULP "Common People" (1995) [1,625 points, 13 votes]
43. NEW ORDER "Temptation" (1982) [1,629 points, 14 votes]
42. DEPECHE MODE "Enjoy the Silence" (1990) [1,640 points, 14 votes]
41. PRINCE "Little Red Corvette" (1982) [1,651 points, 15 votes]
40. PUBLIC ENEMY "Bring the Noise" (1987) [1,659 points, 16 votes]
39. THE UNDERTONES "Teenage Kicks" (1978) [1,703 points, 17 votes]
38. DEEE-LITE "Groove Is in the Heart" (1990) [1,732 points, 16 votes]
37. THE SMITHS "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out" (1986) [1,787 points, 17 votes]
36. MARVIN GAYE "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" (1968) [1,863 points, 16 votes]
35. SONIC YOUTH "Teen Age Riot" (1988) [1,865 points, 21 votes]
34. THE FLAMINGOS "I Only Have Eyes for You" (1959) [1,867 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]
33. FUNKADELIC "Maggot Brain" (1971) [1,908 points, 16 votes]
32. JOY DIVISION "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (1980) [1,909 points, 18 votes]
31. THE BEATLES "A Day in the Life" (1967) [1,933 points, 18 votes]
30. THE JACKSON 5 "I Want You Back" (1969) [1,953 points, 18 votes]
29. THE MODERN LOVERS "Roadrunner" (1972) [1,957 points, 18 votes]
28. SAM COOKE "A Change Is Gonna Come" (1964) [1,968 points, 21 votes]
27. ? & THE MYSTERIANS "96 Tears" (1966) [1,987 points, 17 votes]
26. BOB DYLAN "Like a Rolling Stone" (1965) [2,025 points, 19 votes]

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

like, 'rolling stone' is hella ~definitive~

but u hardly needed to know that

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

wouldn't be the 20th C without him/it.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

or, like, the cultural revolution

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Better get some Shaggs up in this bitch ASAP.

PLEASE

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

damn, no. 125 had more than half of no. 26s point total. close race!

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

probably give it to the 75-100 cohort so far...

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 December 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Confession time, I only heard 96 Tears for the first time last week.

Satantango! (Matt #2), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Only voted for 3 of the last bunch, feel like my taste is zooming off somewhere else at this stage...

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

5 tonight, making 15 for me now. Looking at the rest of my list, at least 20 should still place - man am I in for some disappointments tomorrow.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for each of the Jackson 5/Modern Lovers/Sam Cooke run. I'd argue that "I Want You Back" is the greatest song Michael Jackson (or any other Jackson) was involved in, it's just perfect. "A Change Is Gonna Come" is one of the most moving songs of the 20th century, and Sam Cooke's voice is just oooh. "Roadrunner"...um, it's a great example of its genre and I find myself singing it in random places - but I agree it probably shouldn't have placed so highly.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

not a huge fan of "like a rolling stone". not sure why - though i'm not the biggest dylan fan in general, i do like quite a few of his songs and considered voting for "it's all over now, baby blue" and "desolation row". it just makes me feel tired, i guess.

nor did i vote for "96 tears", but that was just me being stupid. amazing song.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I tell you what is awesome, and that is the Suicide version of that song.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

It's still 'Sinnerman' for me so far, though 'A Day In The Life' or 'I Want You Back' would've made acceptable no.1s if the list had panned out slightly differently.

I acquired the individual tracks for 'A Day In The Life' somewhere - was amazed to find the bassline was just McCartney plugged into the desk and bumping away, he didn't play through an amp or anything. It's long been one of my favourite basslines, I'd always presumed he'd've been at it forever to get it just so.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Tuomas is onto something regarding the rock on this list. A lot of the rock popping up is "one-note" - and it's a bit hard to explain what I mean

'Roadrunner' is "one-note" as well but it has a special quality that non-Jonathan Richman fans will never understand (sort of cult-like in that way)

As for the other "one-note" rock popping up - I agree that it's all rather boring. And I think a lot of people don't realize that the song they voted for is "one-note".

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

thing that makes it hard to explain the greatness of "roadrunner" is that it doesn't add anything to its genre. it's not an expansion of rock music, but a refinement, an essentialization. and sure, the earliest forms of rock were plenty stripped and primal to begin with, but "roadrunner" takes that basic chassis and retunes it to communicate a very different sensibility, one informed by the culture born of rock radio and television, something ironic and half a step out of sync with the real world.

i recently read a brief excerpt from keith richards' autobiography wherein he talks about trying to play r&b horn charts on his guitar, how something quite simple can convey the implicit presence other musical elements that aren't actually there. "road runner" sounds like this to me. there really isn't much going on there and the production is thin, but i hear it as this massive, gleaming thing, tearing down the road at faster miles and hour, with the radio on. listening to it in my mind, i hear the wall of sound that certainly would have surrounded it if the song had been recorded a decade earlier. at the same time, like the stooges' "search and destroy", the wiry thinness of the sound gives it a compulive, propulsive tension, like it's struggling against itself to be as big and powerful and fast as it feels inside.

jonathan's affectless voice isn't great or even good by conventional standards, but it suits the song's teenage everyman theme & oddball innocence perfectly, in that you hear not just the radio song, but the idea of the radio song in the head of some dumb kid in a nowhere town listening in. it's great. i can't think of a better snapshot of what it feels like to be young and american on a hot summer's day when there's nothing to do. every time i hear it i wish i owned a really fast car with a really shitty stereo so i could do it justice.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

and i am by no means a jonathan richman cultist

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice explanation

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's better just to not explain Jonathan Richman

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

7 for me tonight, including 2 from my top 5 ('groove is in the heart' and 'there is a light...')

Porpoises Rescue Dick Van Dyke (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm gonna go ahead and look in my crystal ball....
1. Michael Jackson - Billie Jean

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Contenderizer, 'Roadrunner' obviously does a lot of what 'Autobahn' does as far as the whole pop music/fast car metaphor goes, but I guess it's a good illustration of your distance and coldness vs. warmth and immediacy thing from upthread.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Thursday, 2 December 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

agreed, and i voted for "autobahn" too

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

49. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Sister Ray" (1968) [1,551 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]

eight today:

46. DESMOND DEKKER & THE ACES "Israelites" (1968) [1,591 points, 15 votes]
45. CHIC "Good Times" (1979) [1,604 points, 18 votes]
43. NEW ORDER "Temptation" (1982) [1,629 points, 14 votes]
38. DEEE-LITE "Groove Is in the Heart" (1990) [1,732 points, 16 votes]
37. THE SMITHS "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out" (1986) [1,787 points, 17 votes]
35. SONIC YOUTH "Teen Age Riot" (1988) [1,865 points, 21 votes]
32. JOY DIVISION "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (1980) [1,909 points, 18 votes]
31. THE BEATLES "A Day in the Life" (1967) [1,933 points, 18 votes]

trax from today I would have voted for if I hadn't overlooked them while making my list:

50. SCREAMIN' JAY HAWKINS "I Put a Spell on You" (1956) [1,495 points, 17 votes]
34. THE FLAMINGOS "I Only Have Eyes for You" (1959) [1,867 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link

er.. nine, it seems

kelolpapyrus (Pillbox), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link

34. THE FLAMINGOS "I Only Have Eyes for You" (1959) [1,867 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]
33. FUNKADELIC "Maggot Brain" (1971) [1,908 points, 16 votes]
32. JOY DIVISION "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (1980) [1,909 points, 18 votes]
31. THE BEATLES "A Day in the Life" (1967) [1,933 points, 18 votes]
30. THE JACKSON 5 "I Want You Back" (1969) [1,953 points, 18 votes]
29. THE MODERN LOVERS "Roadrunner" (1972) [1,957 points, 18 votes]
28. SAM COOKE "A Change Is Gonna Come" (1964) [1,968 points, 21 votes]
27. ? & THE MYSTERIANS "96 Tears" (1966) [1,987 points, 17 votes]

really really loved this stretch

jagger reupholstered my pussy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i had never heard the modern lovers song before & i was about to preemptively bitch about it beating "i want you back" but damn

jagger reupholstered my pussy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

the whole modern lovers album is str8 classic

EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

beat by four points! they're pretty much tied. xp

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I want at least one version of "Lush Life" to chart.
Best song to live by
or maybe to kill yourself to
but definitely to listen to.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, I found a few threads on the 50s and one film poll about the 50s on ILE, but no poll for 50s tracks. If anyone knows for sure that it existed and how to find it, point me there.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

ppl bitching about the inevitable slant toward the last third of the century should just do a pre-60s or first half of the century poll already.

My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I was thinking about it a little while ago and concluded that, as much as we'd all like to represent for a lot of pre-1960 music, there's just SO MUCH of it (60 years' worth) and not everyone has had the time or will to go back and really familiarize themselves with enough of it for it to become instinctual to vote for. That's fair. Artists from the '60s and '70s are still in the public consciousness today, whether we're hearing them on the radio or reading their obits in the paper, or hearing covers of their songs by present-day artists. Pre-1960 music is generally relegated to radio stations that our grandparents listen to, isn't much talked about or regarded in day-to-day life, and really only captures our attention when used strategically in a film (like "Cheek to Cheek" was in The Green Mile, for example).

If a bunch 70 and 80 year olds were voting in this poll, I wouldn't expect to see a single Prince or Joy Division song make the cut, but a whole lot of Nat King Cole and Rosemary Clooney instead.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

omg 50-26 are all the greatest songs ever (even the ones I didn't vote for, tho I voted for like half of them). loving ya lots right now, ILM

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Friday, 3 December 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

xp. i think that is very true. for example I can glance at a list of 12 Bowie songs and I know my favourites, but I'm not familiar enough with Ellington or Armstrong to do the same... even though I dig them both lots.

sofatruck, Friday, 3 December 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm kinda curious how different it would be if there were no nominations, just write-in votes. other than being a nightmare to rank, of course.

there'd be even more tracks tied with one vote, but maybe some different things would slip through.

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd like to see these in the top 25 tomorrow:

The Mamas and The Papas — California Dreamin'
Michael Jackson — Billie Jean
Gladys Knight and The Pips — Midnight Train to Georgia

I'm not sure what else on my ballot to be hopeful about.

Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

It's weird looking back at my ballot and seeing that I did not in fact vote for things that I had assumed I did, but then I remembered that part of my strategy was that Prince, Madonna, and the Beatles weren't going to need my help getting on this list.

Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd like to see these in the top 25 tomorrow:

The Mamas and The Papas — California Dreamin'
Michael Jackson — Billie Jean
Gladys Knight and The Pips — Midnight Train to Georgia

"Billie Jean" might. Pretty sure the others will not be there.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Billie Jean almost certainly will.

sofatruck, Friday, 3 December 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"Strange Fruit" has gotta make an appearance at some point.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm hoping some ray charles recordings made it

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Great results today! Actually, 6 that I voted for, including 26-28. And I really love even almost all the songs I didn't vote for. Still, steeling myself to be pissed at some of the stuff that didn't make it.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link

A 50s poll was discussed but never undertaken. I think it could be very interesting, although ideally there would be plenty of time for people to campaign and familiarize themselves with things they haven't heard.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the next poll should be a band/artists of the 20th century poll.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

did someone say there is only one remaining pre-1950 track? gotta be strange fruit if that's the case...

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

we might wanna take it easy w/ the polls for a little after the 2010 polls

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 December 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

http://version1.itsnicethat.com/images/608.jpg

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

oops, wrong thread.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

strange fruit amirite

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Friday, 3 December 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link

we might wanna take it easy w/ the polls for a little after the 2010 polls

Yeah, I earlier put the 50s poll on my to-do list for 2011, but even then I'm talking more like mid-2011.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

How about a worst songs of the 20thC poll?

Or would that erupt into a shitfight.

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Friday, 3 December 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

OH THAT WOULD BE FUN!!!

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

About the 50s poll, though, I'm really intrigued by the idea of it. There's so much 50s music that I've heard in passing over the years, but comparatively little of it that I've actually sat down and absorbed, studying the intricacies and what have you. "I Only Have Eyes for You," for example, was a song I'd heard countless times, but never really listened to. It's actually pretty mindbending.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Did someone already mention the recent Christgau's Favorite '50s Songs poll? It was very limited--20 or 30 songs, I think (and not, stricltly speaking, his favorites).

clemenza, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Could a list be made out of this showing most popular bands/artists? Shouldn't be too much more work ?? Therefore artists that got lots of noms, therefore lots of vote splitting would show up. For example there might be a large amount that voted for Hank Williams but they were split evenly between the tunes so he doesn't show. Seems ridiculous that he isn't anywhere so far.

Hinklepicker, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish ILX had pages.. too many youtubes. :(

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

USE FUCKING BOOKMARKS

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 December 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

jesus...

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

people who don't use bookmarks & then complain about the length of threads would be like if you had a car but constantly complained about not being able to get anywhere

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 December 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

bookmarks arent working for me actually

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Have you tried using a different browser? Seriously though, bookmarks will change your life.

Number None, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post to Geir. If you can say with confidence that "Midnight Train to Georgia" isn't gonna show in this poll - not the simple reality that it won't have placed afterall, but to say that we already know it is just not going to show at this point - then I think something is really fundamentally wrong with this place. I honestly can't think of a more deserving track.

I'm sorry. I'm trying to be open-minded to other tastes, but the idea that Midnight Train to Georgia isn't an obvious contender for the top 25 is really upsetting to me at the moment. Maybe I'm being ridiculous.

Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to use them, but its not working this week

xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link

34. THE FLAMINGOS "I Only Have Eyes for You" (1959) [1,867 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]

hell yeah.. i thought it would be top 10 but 34 isn't bad.

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's the list again so far for people who can't bookmark:

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin" (1967) [1,231 points, 11 votes]
97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
86. AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
82. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
79. (TIE) NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,325 points, 14 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
71. THE ZOMBIES "Care of Cell 44" (1968) [1,355 points, 13 votes]
70. BIG STAR "Thirteen" (1972) [1,362 points, 14 votes]
69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]
66. GETO BOYS "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" (1991) [1,395 points, 13 votes]
65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]
64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]
57. (TIE) DR. DRE ft. SNOOP DOGG "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang" (1992) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
56. THE BEACH BOYS "Wouldn't it Be Nice" (1966) [1,460 points, 12 votes]
55. QUEEN ft. DAVID BOWIE "Under Pressure" (1981) [1,475 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes]
54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]
52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender" (1978) [1,493 points, 15 votes]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

50. SCREAMIN' JAY HAWKINS "I Put a Spell on You" (1956) [1,495 points, 17 votes]
49. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Sister Ray" (1968) [1,551 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]
48. SLY & THE FAMILY STONE "Family Affair" (1971) [1,558 points, 15 votes]
47. NEW ORDER "Blue Monday" (1983) [1,571 points, 14 votes]
46. DESMOND DEKKER & THE ACES "Israelites" (1968) [1,591 points, 15 votes]
45. CHIC "Good Times" (1979) [1,604 points, 18 votes]
44. PULP "Common People" (1995) [1,625 points, 13 votes]
43. NEW ORDER "Temptation" (1982) [1,629 points, 14 votes]
42. DEPECHE MODE "Enjoy the Silence" (1990) [1,640 points, 14 votes]
41. PRINCE "Little Red Corvette" (1982) [1,651 points, 15 votes]
40. PUBLIC ENEMY "Bring the Noise" (1987) [1,659 points, 16 votes]
39. THE UNDERTONES "Teenage Kicks" (1978) [1,703 points, 17 votes]
38. DEEE-LITE "Groove Is in the Heart" (1990) [1,732 points, 16 votes]
37. THE SMITHS "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out" (1986) [1,787 points, 17 votes]
36. MARVIN GAYE "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" (1968) [1,863 points, 16 votes]
35. SONIC YOUTH "Teen Age Riot" (1988) [1,865 points, 21 votes]
34. THE FLAMINGOS "I Only Have Eyes for You" (1959) [1,867 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]
33. FUNKADELIC "Maggot Brain" (1971) [1,908 points, 16 votes]
32. JOY DIVISION "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (1980) [1,909 points, 18 votes]
31. THE BEATLES "A Day in the Life" (1967) [1,933 points, 18 votes]
30. THE JACKSON 5 "I Want You Back" (1969) [1,953 points, 18 votes]
29. THE MODERN LOVERS "Roadrunner" (1972) [1,957 points, 18 votes]
28. SAM COOKE "A Change Is Gonna Come" (1964) [1,968 points, 21 votes]
27. ? & THE MYSTERIANS "96 Tears" (1966) [1,987 points, 17 votes]
26. BOB DYLAN "Like a Rolling Stone" (1965) [2,025 points, 19 votes]

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

(I'm always scared when I do that I might accidentally post the next day's results too.)

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sorry. I'm trying to be open-minded to other tastes, but the idea that Midnight Train to Georgia isn't an obvious contender for the top 25 is really upsetting to me at the moment

I'd never even heard it til just now and it sounds like a pretty bog-standard R&B/discoey kind of track to me. Nothing special, and the kind of thing I find really boring in all honesty.

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Friday, 3 December 2010 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link

If it had been a part of your life for 30+ years, you'd feel differently. Maybe positive, maybe negative, but definitely differently.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link

It's sort of amazing to me that people haven't heard 'midnight train to georgia' or 'I put a spell on you'.

But then again that Pulp track "common people" sounds absolutely boring to me and I never heard of it until that stupid pitchfork list

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post

That's a very generously diplomatic response, but maybe it's also exactly on the mark. On the other hand, it doesn't explain the song's impact on me 30+ years ago when it hadn't been part of my life for 30 years.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link

On the subject of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" being redone in a way that Tuomas approves of, I was just clicking around youtube looking for covers and remixes and came across this. I actually don't hate it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xal-5SI-kc

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link

predictions for tomorrow:

billie jean, boys of summer, god only knows

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link

boys of summer?

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

God I hope not.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

(Re Boys of Summer, that is.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Wichita Lineman, Gimme Shelter, Good Vibrations, Anarchy in The UK, Superstition, Dock Of The Bay

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

FWIW I dont get the love for Pulp in the *slightest*, and I was saturated in 80s-90s indie.

I dont much like the Smiths either FWIW (tho "there is a light" is lovely)

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

fwiw fwiw imo smdh

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

You need to listen to "midnight train to georgia" again. You oughta be embarrassed by what you wrote up thread. Maybe someday you will be. For your sake, I hope so.

Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:39 (thirteen years ago) link

omg sanctimoniousness is the hot new 2k10 look

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:40 (thirteen years ago) link

lay it on, brother

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:41 (thirteen years ago) link

rooting for The Zombies, Glen Campbell, Chris Bell, Aaliyah, Patsy Cline, The Trashmen

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Still holding out for The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald

sofatruck, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Did 32 people vote for "Cars" by Gary Numan?

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

A tiny bit sad I can't make predictions.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

you could have before you knew the results

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I gave 89 pts to "cars."

Two Red Ducks, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I can totally understand how someone might shrug off "Midnight Train to Georgia" the first time they heard it, btw. Like a lot of pop-soul classics, the beauty is in the details.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sorry. I'm trying to be open-minded to other tastes, but the idea that Midnight Train to Georgia isn't an obvious contender for the top 25 is really upsetting to me at the moment. Maybe I'm being ridiculous.

― Two Red Ducks, Thursday, December 2, 2010 7:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

well, you are being ridiculous. at least a little. not because it isn't deserving, but because it isn't anywhere near as universally known or celebrated as a whole bunch of other songs, even here on ILX. and while i know the song well, it doesn't do a lot for me, not even after a couple decades of familiarity. there are tons of songs i feel a whole lot worse about leaving off my ballot, like hundreds.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

was any steely dan nominated?

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, that's another safe prediction.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link

C'mon Hank Williams and Bo Diddley.

and the Shaqgs.

Hinklepicker, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes. xps

Steely Dan — Babylon Sisters
Steely Dan — Deacon Blues
Steely Dan — Josie
Steely Dan — Peg
Steely Dan — Rikki Don't Lose That Number

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link

would bet on Peg there i guess but they could have gotten votesplit out of it, no obvious pick there

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's the voting thread again if anyone wants to peep the whole list.

ILM POLLS THE 20TH CENTURY'S BEST TRACKS (Voting Thread - Ends at Midnight on Friday, November 26 EST)

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link

so no Can in the top 125 I guess, that's just not right

peter in montreal, Friday, 3 December 2010 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link

But Kraftwerk got three...so go figure.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link

one of the great joys of this poll has been (re)discovering stuff and watching others do the same. like ismael k. freaking out over "sinnerman", and a whole bunch of people having their eyes opened to "i only have eyes for you". me too, fwiw. i remember cutting it from my ballot early on, looking at the title, thinking, "oh yeah, that one," and letting it go without a moment's regret. but my memory was so vague and denatured, accurate but empty. i mean, i remembered the words, the tempo, the outlines of a melody, but all the detail was gone, all the tone. it's a song that lives or dies on atmosphere and intimacy. have to admit that i was astonished when i went back and really listened to it, in response to others' astonishment. such a wonderful collective moment.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Flamingos had to be my #1.. I woulda been sad if it didn't place well.

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for it, but left it in the unweighted part of my ballot. I wish I would've given it some more points.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:09 (thirteen years ago) link

gimme shelter has GOT to be on this list

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Lotsa opportunity for vote splitting re: Stones

The Rolling Stones — 2000 Light Years From Home
The Rolling Stones — Dead Flowers
The Rolling Stones — Gimme Shelter
The Rolling Stones — Jumpin' Jack Flash
The Rolling Stones — Moonlight Mile
The Rolling Stones — Paint it Black
The Rolling Stones — Rocks Off
The Rolling Stones — Sister Morphine
The Rolling Stones — Street Fighting Man
The Rolling Stones — Sway
The Rolling Stones — Sympathy for the Devil
The Rolling Stones — Under My Thumb
The Rolling Stones — You Can't Always Get What You Want

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yes but GIMME SHLETER

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:21 (thirteen years ago) link

also, shelter

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:21 (thirteen years ago) link

gimme shelter is the only stones song i like. still didn't vote for it though

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link

GIMME SHLETER

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ITS JUST A TOSH AWAY

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds Yiddish to me.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link

From the album Let it Blutikn.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link

it looks like the only stones song on my ballot was fucking "sympathy for the devil". this is [not retarded but a word that means the same thing yet is inoffensive], cuz "gimme shelter" is obviously the best thing they ever goddam did, by a country mile, a city mile, whatever kind of mile you got. both were on there until the very last second and i guess i wound up cutting the wrong one. fug.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

woooord

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link

boneheaded? absentminded? INCONCEIVABLE?!

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure I voted for gimme shelter

I didn't save my ballot plus I was also slightly drunk when I made it so I can't be sure

peter in montreal, Friday, 3 December 2010 06:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, i like sympathy for the devil, like like a lot, but...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link

it's far from the most embarrasing thing about my ballot though. there's at least one vote on there (and one in particular) that makes me just wanna cringe myself into a little corner and die. you cut "gimme shelter" for that? louis armstrong for that?!?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 06:44 (thirteen years ago) link

CAN is most definitely making it.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link

"Roadrunner" is exactly the sort of rock song I will never learn to understand. Dude is a bad singer, there's no catchy melody, nor is the song rhythmically or sonically interesting.

was thinking this too as I was listening to it...comes down to it just not being my thing. I find my self agreeing with Tuomas' reactions here but amused by him seemingly being unable to realize that different people dig different musical things. Your yardstick(s) doesn't apply to them, dude.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 07:07 (thirteen years ago) link

CAN is most definitely making it.

I somehow couldn't see 20 people voting for "Halleluwah" but I'll be happy as shit if that actually happened.

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 07:13 (thirteen years ago) link

put one vote to can, and it wasn't for that. no regrets.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 07:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i think 'future days' might have the best chance.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 07:19 (thirteen years ago) link

btw if Boriginal doesn't make it you are all so fucking lame

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 07:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I gave two Can votes, one for 'future days' and another for 'yoo doo right'. It wont feel like an ILM poll to me if Can doesn't place. Also think 'future days' is the one that has the most chance of making it but we'll see.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link

full support for "yoo doo right" (long shot) and the boriginal (akkle otm)

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 07:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i almost voted for circle i think. but boredoms are one of those bands i'm constantly raving about but have a hard time converting people to. i could understand if a lot of people on here don't get it.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 07:44 (thirteen years ago) link

All my Can points went to 'Oh Yeah' - I guess a Can medley might just scrape in.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 08:02 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ SHLETER

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Friday, 3 December 2010 08:05 (thirteen years ago) link

bet kate bush is the artist with four songs

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Friday, 3 December 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Not sure about that. 'Running up that Hill' will def. place, but what's the other one?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link

umm hounds of love? I may have miscounted...after some sober reflection, I realize prince will make four with when doves cry

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

bet kate bush is the artist with four songs

Nah. It's got to be Prince. WHen Doves Cry

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, you beat me to it by a second lol.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

favorite song I'm giving up on: ghost town by the specials

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Hounds of Love?

But I don't think it's going to be Kate. Beatles probably. Prince/Jacko/Kraftwerk maybe.

Wichita Lineman, Gimme Shelter, Good Vibrations, Anarchy in The UK, Superstition, Dock Of The Bay

All nailed on I think, except maybe Gimme Shelter due to vote splittage.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link

btw the reason O Superman will be so high is that it fills a niche very few of the tracks on the ballot fill: the genuinely-out-there-but-wondrously-compelling avant-garde classic

and deservedly, although its isolation here is not to be celebrated

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Stop saying "avant-garde".

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"art-pop" oh idk YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

"complex non-verse-chorus 4/4 percussive music"

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:15 (thirteen years ago) link

OK the reason I nominated O superman was because it was a groundbreaking, fucking UNUSUAL thing to have charted so high when it came out. Wasn't it #1 at one point?

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

lol matt

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I like to think of thousands of people buying "O Superman" as a joke or novelty record and then after a week of living with it realising how beautiful and affecting it is.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Superstition, Dock Of The Bay ... O Superman

i voted for these, and would be very surprised if they don't make the cut.

when big science came out, i bought it right away because it had "o superman" on it and i'd loved that song from the 1st second i heard it. no lag time. the rest of the album worked on me in much the way that noodle vague describes. i couldn't deal with it. it lay too far outside the musical and cultural reference points i understood. i didn't even much like it, beyond the single, but i'd dig it out every couple weeks and play it, this bizarre object, just to stare at the oddity of the sound. within a few months it had won me over entirely and i couldn't imagine i'd ever stumbled over any of it. except "sweaters", with which i once had a brief epiphany, but then it went away.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

If "O Superman" can't be described as "avant-garde", I don't know what can. It doesn't follow any pop music formula, and it was originally a part of a performance piece. Jus because it sounds pretty doesn't mean it can't be avant-garde.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

a) it's a frequently mis-applied term that used to have a specific historical meaning
b) avant-garde in a pop context doesn't equal avant-garde in a music context
c) Matt was joking

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Prince, Beatles and Beach Boys will all get four. I thought Prince would get five, but I guess Sign O The Times is missing out.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Could a list be made out of this showing most popular bands/artists? Shouldn't be too much more work ?? Therefore artists that got lots of noms, therefore lots of vote splitting would show up.

I have this list, it's pretty interesting. I'll post it after we're done with the results.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

a) it's a frequently mis-applied term that used to have a specific historical meaning

waht? "Avant-garde" has never had a definition everyone has agreed upon. It's the French word for vanguard & can be applied to any work that encroaches upon new artistic territory.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

nah once Modernism is mainstream I think it's drifted a long way from its original use

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link

crut's right to some extent, but within intellectual circles and for most of the 20th century it defined a specific realm of artistic, political and social activity. specifically, the avant-garde is that segment of bohemian art, thought and/or culture that issues a radical, progressive and in a sense violent challenge to mainstream values and aesthetics. it's the aggressive leading edge of cultural change, not just art, lifestyle or philosophy, but art, lifestyle and philosophy as an intentional assault on the crimes of normalcy. to be avant-garde in a meaningful sense is not just to be marginalized, but to willingly marginalize yourself, to insist upon your own alienation.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, i've (over)stated it in the most extreme terms possible, but that sort of confrontational, disruptive stance or effect has to be in there somewhere.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

b) avant-garde in a pop context doesn't equal avant-garde in a music context

Is the more pertinent point really. Also his third point as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:36 (thirteen years ago) link

b) avant-garde in a pop context doesn't equal avant-garde in a music context

What does "musical context" mean here? Anyway, "O Superman" is definitely avant-garde in a larger context than pop. It wasn't written a pop tune but as a part of larger performance that certainly counts as avant-garde.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Just no. That's like saying Serialism in 2010 is avant-garde.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link

that sort of confrontational, disruptive stance or effect has to be in there somewhere.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Just no. That's like saying Serialism in 2010 is avant-garde.

― absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, December 3, 2010 3:40 AM (1 minute ago)

Laurie Anderson was considered an avant-garde composer/musician in the 1980s when this song came out ... having crazy pills moment

sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Could a list be made out of this showing most popular bands/artists? Shouldn't be too much more work ?? Therefore artists that got lots of noms, therefore lots of vote splitting would show up.

Be good to see this list with only one vote per person counting for each band, or else the results will be distorted by the people that voted for every track by that one band to make sure they placed.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link

^ no sorry those two chuck berry songs are better than anything else I could have voted for

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Not sure the concept of the avant-garde was particularly relevant by 1980, certainly not in musical terms.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha oh superman

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I see where you're coming from, but...

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Not sure the concept of the avant-garde was particularly relevant by 1980, certainly not in musical terms.

― Matt DC, Friday, December 3, 2010 3:47 AM (1 minute ago)

yes, it was.

sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't think of anyone who's producing what i'd call avant-garde pop at this point. music yes, but not pop. i mean, i'm sure something like it exists somewhere, but i'm just not tuned into those wavelengths. in any genre, the most extreme and progressive fringes might casually be called avant-garde, so long as their formal structures haven't ossified into genre, but it's hard to square that kind of antagonism with "pop". there's a basic conceptual contradiction, in that what is generally popular by definition cannot for long be truly avant-garde, and vice-versa. anyway, the phrase typically describes music that resembles or borrows from familiar popular forms but utilizes them in challenging, artistically intriguing and novel ways. for instance, as integrated with performance art practice, like "o superman".

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i get the ha ha ha thing, crut, but you know, sliding scales...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Avant garde is such a pointless term because it requires an exaggerated form of radicalism and lack of compromise. A lot of arty pop was still being made in the early 80s though, and is still being made today.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, but that's where we started, with people wanting to distinguish between pop that might seem trivially arty to some and the "real avant-garde" or whatever

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:57 (thirteen years ago) link

There is no such thing as "trivially" arty though. The best art in music is always a result of compromise, from Bach and Mozart to this day.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxxp

Laurie Anderson was considered an avant-garde composer/musician in the 1980s when this song came out ...

This is kind of in the same way that Damien Hirst does "modern art" - it's after a serious rupture that distinguishes things as "classic" and "modern/avant-garde" in popular consciousness, but it doesn't belong to that rupture. The fusion of high and low culture in ~1980 New York was important and new, and O Superman led to wider awareness of what could be done with electronic music, but it didn't change how people thought in a significant way. IMO.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

This is kind of in the same way that Damien Hirst does "modern art" - it's after a serious rupture that distinguishes things as "classic" and "modern/avant-garde" in popular consciousness, but it doesn't belong to that rupture. The fusion of high and low culture in ~1980 New York was important and new, and O Superman led to wider awareness of what could be done with electronic music, but it didn't change how people thought in a significant way. IMO.

Exactly.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

There is no such thing as "trivially" arty though. The best art in music is always a result of compromise, from Bach and Mozart to this day.

― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, December 3, 2010 3:58 AM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark

sure, but everybody dismisses the art they don't like (not to point fingers or anything...)

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Doesn't change the fact that O Superman is awesome and I hope it turns up soon.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

uh, who's talking about changing the way people thought about anything? That is what she and a number of her contemporaries were called back in the 70s/80s -- they were referred to as avant-garde composers/musicians.

sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes but this whole argument is about the point at which bandying a term like "avant-garde" becomes devalued and redundant and useless. Lots of stuff gets called "experimental" without actually being so.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

XX Post "Oh Superman" is indeed quite annoying. Kind of interesting for the first two minutes, then repetitive and boring and pointless.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably obvious that you can identify two senses of "avant-garde":

"avant-garde" in the narrow sense is something utterly new, which has never been done before and opens a world of new possibilities. In musical terms I'd think of Stockhausen, La Monte Young, "Ascension".

"avant-garde" in the broader sense, and the sense in which it's usually used in ILX-world discourse, is a less ambitious version that applies to things that are new and interesting, and have pretensions beyond what has gone before in the genre in question. So yeah, Oh Superman is avant-garde in a pop context, Kraftwerk is avant-garde, Soft Machine is avant-garde, Timbaland was avant-garde.

Again IMO - I'm wary of pontificating on stuff I don't have an overall perspective on.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah "O Superman" is a fully realized performance work that doesn't really sound/function like anything that came before it, even though plenty of weirder shit came before it. Not to be like OMG LAURIE ANDERSON SO INNOVATIVE but I feel like the "novelty pop hit" status kind of obscures the context in which she was working.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

All kinds of genre mixing is experimental. Without exception.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Avant garde is such a pointless term because it requires an exaggerated form of radicalism and lack of compromise.

Actually, if you were Cornelius Cardew, the avant-garde holds no form of radicalism at all and is fact counter-revolutionary. Stockhausen serves imperialism and all that. So ner.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

"avant-garde" in the broader sense, and the sense in which it's usually used in ILX-world discourse, is a less ambitious version that applies to things that are new and interesting, and have pretensions beyond what has gone before in the genre in question. So yeah, Oh Superman is avant-garde in a pop context,

def

Kraftwerk is avant-garde,

probably

Soft Machine is avant-garde,

ehhhhhhh

Timbaland was avant-garde.

no.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

For instance, Michael Jackson was experimenting when he brought a heavy metal guitar into "Beat It". Because that was very unusual in his musical style.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The fusion of high and low culture in ~1980 New York was important and new, and O Superman led to wider awareness of what could be done with electronic music, but it didn't change how people thought in a significant way. IMO.

― seandalai, Friday, December 3, 2010 4:00 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm not sure that this is so. prior to the fusion you're talking about, i don't think that late 20th century fine or high art had really interacted directly with the pop charts in this way. in that, "o superman" was, for a moment, rather avant-garde. it belonged to a fairly rarefied arts culture, but also to mainstream america, to pop. and anderson's performance was inventive and challenging in ways that went beyond the promotion of electronic music. these things may not have been so obviously present in "o superman" the pop tune, but it's unfair to separate the hit from its proper context in her work.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxxxp again:

Ok, there's a third sense, which is what sarahel is touching on - "avant-garde" as genre. Post-Webern music in the classical lineage tends to get called "avant-garde" by default. In this sense, Laurie Anderson is an avant-garde composer.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - there's a difference between arbitrarily calling something or someone "avant-garde" or "experimental" - and referring to something or someone by those terms who has historically been canonized in that way! It's like arguing that "Freebird" isn't a rock song because you don't think it "rocks."

sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

basically, as sean mentioned in the post before mine -- "avant garde as genre"

sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

freebird sucks

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

seandali & sarah otm about certain strains of 20th century composition - at that point it becomes a fairly simple genre descriptor

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

but i kinda hate that use of the phrase

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Gotta go now, see you later for THE FINAL RECKONING.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

"avant garde as genre"

Yeah I see where you're coming from with this but "avant-garde as genre" is a very self-defeating concept. Once the barriers have been broken open it takes a long time to get to new barriers. Laurie Anderson is/was experimental but only after a large and comfortable space had broken open for that experimentation to take place.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I see where you and others who don't like the term are coming from, and LJ does have a habit of using questionable adjectives when describing music (he and I have an ongoing battle over appropriate use of the word "brutal" to describe various bands) -- but in this case, his usage of "avant-garde" to describe "O Superman" is perfectly acceptable.

sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but stop using it

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

could have used "angular" instead

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

classic ILM argument about who likes a record the right way :D love you guyz

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

go back in time and tell that to 60s/70s/80s NYC

sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir you shd try listening to it all the way thru

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

go back in time and tell that to 60s/70s/80s NYC

Can think of one or two more important things to be telling them though.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I see where you and others who don't like the term are coming from, and LJ does have a habit of using questionable adjectives when describing music (he and I have an ongoing battle over appropriate use of the word "brutal" to describe various bands) -- but in this case, his usage of "avant-garde" to describe "O Superman" is perfectly acceptable.

^^^Agree with all of this (particularly the questionable adjectives bit, ha).

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.the-artfile.com/gallery/artists/duchamp/toilet.jpg

lovers VS. critics (forever)

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a fun poll. I think all-time artists would have been even more so.

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I think artists might have been an easier/funner one to do, can we do that?

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I would imagine the results of an artists poll would be even more trad-ILM than this tracks one.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Clean sweep for Nate Dogg IMO.

A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

That's not the Elis Regina tune I voted for, but it's a good song, and I'm glad it broke the arty white dude domination.

― Tuomas, Quarta-feira, 1 de Dezembro de 2010 11:00 (2 days ago) Bookmark

That's puzzling. Elis and Tom Jobim are not considered white and arty outside Brazil?

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Elis was not a dude, as far as I know.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

you never know

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Summary of the debate:

- O Superman is avant-garde
- O Superman is not avant-garde
- It depends on what you mean by "avant-garde"

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

- We forgot to nom Skynyrd!

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

the only skynyrd track I would consider voting for is "the ballad of curtis loew" and I wouldn't actually vote for it

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

All this avant-garde chat just makes me feel the absence of 'Revolution 9'

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

If avant garde means doing something completely new for the very first time that has never been done before regardless of genre, then "Revolution 9" was not avant garde. It may have been something new in a "rock" context (although Zappa did similar things on his debut album already), but not overall.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I think by this stage we have firmly established that avant-garde (or avant garde) means different things to different people!! when id the countdown starting again, it's now Friday afternoon here and I could do with the distraction from work...

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

*is

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i can only think of a few certainties for the final 25. that's kind of cool.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I can think of a bunch of certainties, wouldn't like to try and call the top three though.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Hope Ghost Town makes it.

A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

on reflection, i'm really stoked that 'cloudbusting' placed well here. incredible, moving song and it could have easily missed out.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, we need to get this thing moving, some of us are going out tonight.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I nominated 'Hello Earth', whose chances of placing now must be close to zero, and i'd've nominated 'This Woman's Work' if I wasn't working to a one-per-artist rule. I still think we'll see her once more though, very possibly first up today.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

'running up that hill' has a reasonable chance.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

just went back and read the ~500 posts I missed, including the whole "avant-garde" discussion, which was actually quite interesting (if ultimately a bit... academic)

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

or in other words, I like it when ppl get into arguments, because then they start trying to back up their position with evidence drawn from their personal experience, and in the process they reveal something about the history and context surrounding the music, and the way that it's been received, that I find incredibly valuable (esp. as a 23-year-old greenhorn muso). real talk y'all.

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

'running up that hill' has a reasonable chance.

It's a dead cert.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I think so. Not 'Hounds of Love' though.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

voted 'hounds of love' myself... self-imposed one-song-per-artist rule helped me whittle it down to 100, and that was my (current) favourite from the nominations. don't think it'll show up at this stage tho.

lol xp

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

It will, but the Futureheads version instead.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Will resume in 5 minutes...

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

25. ALTHEA & DONNA "Uptown Top Ranking" (1977) [2,050 points, 20 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyK8mcuUIGI

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

awwww yeah!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO LOW

Ok, maybe not. But I'm happy to see it here!

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe you guys are arguing about the definition of "avant-garde." Actually, I can completely believe it. I must be getting old because I'm not quite tempted to jump in. I believe the proper overused substitute for avant-garde is "forward looking."

I do have one thing to say. I agree that Laurie Anderson was an avant-garde artist in the 70s and 80s, but that doesn't automatically mean that everything she produced is itself avant-garde.

Oh wait, results. . . I just noticed.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Results definitely more interesting.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

The song forever predicted what kind of position it would hold in polls and countdowns...

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

is this a UK thing? I've never heard this track.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I kind of take that back...the chorus is semi familiar

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

btw thank you ilm for introducing me to the modern lovers, that yt is dope as fuck

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

24. BIG STAR "September Gurls" (1974) [2,102 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXEPgjOdZt4

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - Check out "Pablo Picasso" by the Modern Lovers while you're at it.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost It was a number one here in the UK. Around this time and for the next few years we had some really amazing number one singles.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

toooooo low. probably would have been my #1 if I had put in a ranked ballot.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Also YES Sam Cooke! <3 you ilm.

I am way behind in my bookmarks obv.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

september gurls is basically the model pop song to me

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

btw thank you ilm for introducing me to the modern lovers, that yt is dope as fuck

― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:14 PM

The whole Modern Lovers album really is essential.

Can't remember if I voted for Big Star in the end but really glad to see it here.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember wondering what the big deal was about September Gurls, and Big Star in general, the first time I heard #1 Record/Radio City--just a pop song etc. but a couple hundred listens later it still gets better and better. the Bangles' version is quite good as well.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

september gurls :)

very happy to see that there. with the exception of 'outdoor miner', it's my favourite song on the list so far.

oh yeah, just out of curiosity where did 'pablo picasso' place, seandalai? i nommed that one.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Undeserved, but I guess Roadrunner hoovered up the Modern Lovers votes (it did mine anyway):

1176 The Modern Lovers - Pablo Picasso 221 2 0

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

skipping a boring arse disucssion about avant garde and... UPTOWN TOP RANKING. TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNE. Think I might have this played at my funeral, just because. Or walk down the aisle for my wedding to it.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I like 'Uptown Top Ranking' well enough but don't really get why it should attract such universal acclaim

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

haha, almost fared as poorly as the minor threat song, which i also nommed. xx-post

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post

Same here, not that I want to piss off any of its zealous supporters. It's a good song. Maybe if I'd heard it back around the time it was released, but I don't remember hearing it until seeing it on lists much later.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not the biggest fan of "September Gurls" or Big Star in general, but a couple weeks ago I saw the guys from the Posies (who'd played in the reunited Big Star for a number of years until Chilton's death) play with Brendan Benson, and their last song of the encore was "September Gurls" and it just killed me, and totally motivated me to put the song on my ballot.

My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel the same way about 'September Gurls' really - nice tune and killer chorus and all, but it's not incredible imo. If 'Eight Miles High' doesn't place now...

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I think I came to the conclusion a couple of years ago that I will never understand or appreciate reggae. The whole genre does absolutely nothing for me. It's weird because I can pretty much always find something to like in other forms of music. Listening to Uptown Top Ranking just now just left me completely :|

peter in montreal, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

23. BLUE ÖYSTER CULT "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" (1976) [2,139 points, 20 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

okay badass song

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

also eternal lol @ MORE COWBELL

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Thumbs up for Uptown Top Ranking!!

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, it's a great song, but i like at least half of 'secret treaties' better :/

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I almost went with the SNL sketch, but there's no quality version on youtube and that's not what people voted for really.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

40,000 men and women everyday... come on... just do it...
Should a pro-suicide song be this catchy and well-produced?

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Uptown is great, but there are at least a dozen reggae songs from the same era I like more... Though I guess none of them are as important, at least not in the UK.

A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

kudos for the ö

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

september gurls is basically the model pop song to me
yes

kate78, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

This is a pretty great run of songs. <3 Uptown Top Ranking <3 September Gurls.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, this isn't the top 25 for no reason, I suppose.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, totally badass

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i wanted to nom some hugh mundell, who is my favourite reggae artist along with the congos, but i feared no one would vote for it. wouldn't have mattered anyway - it's not like dudes were all like "i gotta vote me some minor threat and big black".

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm kind of in the same boat as peter up there. By and large, reggae doesn't do much for me outside of a few select tracks. Dub can be interesting in most cases, and old ska has a little more going for it to my ear, but standard reggae just lays flat. I hear "Uptown Top Ranking" and all I can do is shrug.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't know 'Don't Fear The Reaper' at all. It's really good. I'd maybe heard 'September Gurls' only a couple of times before too - hadn't really expected to be still learning new stuff at this stage. Off to check me out some 'More Cowbell' now.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Never going to begrudge Big Star, but 'Holocaust' is the most perfectly formed thing they ever did. So so good.

Didn't vote for it, but 'Uptown Top Ranking' is such a joyously fun song - it's a couple of teenagers messing about in their rooms braggin' and bigging each other up.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't know 'Don't Fear The Reaper' at all.

Amazing.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

It's just hard for me to imagine this, but that's clearly a generational thing.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't feel that old (27) and assume everyone I know knows Don't Fear the Reaper.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I usually feel like I know everything, but clearly I have some curious blindspots

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i like "Don't Fear The Reaper" and all, but it seems like a really unlikely top 25 song, had no idea it would even place

My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't feel that old either and assume everyone who'd post on ilm would know every song in this countdowb tbh

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Big Star, but 'Holocaust' is the most perfectly formed thing they ever did. So so good.

At the risk of sounding rude, gag me with a spoon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

22. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "When Doves Cry" (1984) [2,152 points, 23 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt-gcp-ERM0

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

About a fifth of them are new or mostly new to me xp, which is a bit more than I'd thought. I wouldn't've thought very many people would know all 125 though tbh.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i am pleased that i have found some new tunes thru this, was expecting to know them all going in. the bobby womack song is my favorite discovery so far

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

this is my clear favorite of the big classic Prince tracks. best groove, most memorable chorus.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xk5s3_when-doves-cry_music

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I know probably 2/3rds or a bit more of the songs on this countdown.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

This is the first time in my life I've knowingly listened to "Don't Fear the Reaper" too, and I'm 31. I've actually seen the "more cowbell" skit, but I didn't remember this song was in it. Somehow, in my head, I've always thought Blue Öyster Cult is the band that did "El Bimbo", but now I realize that's because "El Bimbo" plays in the Blue Oyster gay bar scenes in the Police Academy movies.

As for "Don't Fear the Reaper", it was pretty good, at least up until the guitar solo. With a title like that I expected heavy metal, but this is closer to Simon & Garfunkel.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Prince is too low

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

"Reaper" is a surprise outlier.

Where did "Uptown Top Ranking" come from? I've never even heard of the song or Althea & Donna. I honestly didn't expect I'd have something sprung on me like that in the top 25.

"When Doves Cry" is the only Prince song I voted for. It's just sui generis, and all these years later it still sounds so 'outside'. What a jam.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

So that's it for Prince then? I assume Purple Rain wasn't nominated?

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I have not been familiar with every track on this list.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Oftentimes I think Prince's best single was "If I Was Your Girlfriend", "Mountains" or "Alphabet St"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Purple Rain was nominated.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Was nominated Matt I think

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

it's probably #1

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't see how that would do better than "When Doves Cry," but what do I know, I'm already surprised by three of the tracks that have placed in the top 25.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

"When Doves Cry", it's a really good tune, but IMO it should've switched places with "Kiss". Both as a composition and as a peace of genius pop minimalism "Kiss" is simply better. (And the album version of "Doves" actually sacrifices that minimalism to include a gratuitous keyboard and a gratuitous guitar solo.)

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

agreeing with Tuomas here...

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow at that Prince clip. When Doves Cry has never been one of my favourite Prince songs but after watching that it should have been in my top ten, incredible performance and those moves are pretty awesome too.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

'When Doves Cry' is probably the only Prince song I'd rep for - I often like the idea of Prince more than the reality, but WDC always works for me.

(In reference to kornrulez upthread, what does 'gag me with a spoon' actually mean?)

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

itt Tuomas shows that he doesn't understand Prince

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Cockahoop to see Uptown Top Ranking feature - was really not sure how the present ILX gestalt viewed it.

calumerio, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Kiss>>>When Doves Cry for me.

A brownish area with points (chap), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

like, the entire POINT of "When Doves Cry" is the expansion into the instrumental coda; this is why the single version always feels neutered/interrupted

(no comment re: comparing it to "Kiss", which is a badass song that I like better, but by a fraction of a degree, and as I said before there are a bunch of other Prince singles I'd rate higher than both)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

not to begrudge althea and donna or ? and the mysterians - great songs from each no doubt - but i wonder if their high, somewhat surprise placements have anything to do with their placement on the master list, alphabetically.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

was not familiar with shh/peaceful, dr. who, 21st century schizoid man, aguas de março, israelites, genius of love, good times, uptown top ranking

i'd at least heard of all the artists except for althea & donna

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Trying to think what else pre-Beatles might make the list... Strange Fruit, Georgia On My Mind, Summertime maybe?

Also my guess is that there'll only be one solitary Beatles track left to place, and that'll be She Love You.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

like, the entire POINT of "When Doves Cry" is the expansion into the instrumental coda; this is why the single version always feels neutered/interrupted

I just liked the idea they should have switched places on the poll.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

21. MICHAEL JACKSON "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" (1979) [2,181 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yURRmWtbTbo

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

like, the entire POINT of "When Doves Cry" is the expansion into the instrumental coda; this is why the single version always feels neutered/interrupted

But "Kiss" has a (sort of a) guitar solo too, and it feels much more integrated to the song than the over-the-top solos on "Doves", a song that's (deservedly) praised for it's icy synth minimalism. I dunno, maybe Prince intended the solos to disrupt the song, but for me it doesn't work.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

(x-post)

Whoa, that should've been in the top 10. "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" is flawless no matter how you look at it.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't vote for that MJ song, but am happy to see it.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

the top 20 is entirely MJ fyi

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

That was the only MJ song I voted for. Would've voted for "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" too (another flawless song IMO) if it had been nommed.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Hah I wonder what the percentage of tracks on this countdown have been produced by either Quincey Jones or Trevor Horn.

This song is so great... I had it on my shortlist but eventually cut my MJ tracks... rightfully predicting others would make up for my lack of votes to the King of Pop.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoa, that should've been in the top 10. "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" is flawless no matter how you look at it.

OTM. It's one of the last times in Jacko's career that you hear sheer unbridled joy in his vocals.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

the whole first half of Off The Wall is still jawdropping.

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

number of michael jackson songs i voted for: 0

number of michael jackson songs i considered voting for: 0

i know it's futile, but please no more michael jackson.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

you are a soulless husk of a human being and I have nothing but pity in my heart for you

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

just wait till alex in nyc finds out there's no killing joke

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

20. THE SMITHS "This Charming Man" (1983) [2,182 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8d3jim9Gg

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

how amazing would it be to be able to dance like that for one day?

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't see that coming. but awesome!

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

JESUS YOU PEOPLE

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO HIGH

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I like that song but think it's overrated in their catalog

like, from that era, give me "Reel Around The Fountain" and/or "What Difference Does It Make?" any day

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

JESUS YOU PEOPLE

otm

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

ooh, there's going to be some whining about this one. I voted for both This Charming Man and How Soon Is Now--we did manage to get the 3 most iconic Smiths songs on here at least.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably my least favourite of the "big" Smiths songs.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

most iconic not necessarily implying the best

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, TOO HIGH.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i would have voted for it for sure under normal circumstances, but in the end didn't have the gall to vote a third smiths track.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

It is perfect.

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

way TOO HIGH jeeez. ILX ur embarrassing yourself here.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

david cameron's favourite song!

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess I came at The Smiths from a really weird, oblique angle; I get "How Soon Is Now?" as an iconic track but, if asked to choose others, I'd probably pick "Bigmouth Strikes Again", "Panic", "What Difference Does It Make?" and "Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before" (and, for me personally, "Sweet & Tender Hooligan" and "Shoplifters of the World Unite").

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, 'this charming man' comes close to being a perfect song. though, 'william, it was really nothing' succeeds on that front even more so.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"This Charming Man" is great! I didn't vote for it though.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

though it is a shame the whole "cardigan only, w/ pearl necklace" look never really caught on...

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"William, It Was Really Nothing" and "Bigmouth Strikes Again" are the two Smithsiest Smiths tracks to me.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

This Charming Man is a perfect song. Perfect.

MJ was a paedo guyz.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

no he wasn't

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah, forgot about "William"

also (don't hurt me) "Meat Is Murder"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

boy w/ thorn rubber ring for my part while we are on this

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

That's the first time I've heard that Althea and Donna track. Great song! Still, I gotta ask, better than I Want You Back?

Fetchboy, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

MIM was a jam

/vegetarian

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Wd take selected highlights of Moz's solo career over most of it now tbh

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

basically I think every Smiths song aside from large chunks of Strangeways is Smithsier than "This Charming Man", which probably says more about how I got into The Smiths than anything else

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

don't misunderstand me I really like This Charming Man but its just funny to me that the supposedly 20th best song ever made in the 20th century is by The Smiths.

And MJ wasn't a pedo!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Whereas Strangeways and the later singles and bits and bobs are most of all I care to hear now. But not any of them in the top 20 tunes of the century.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

19. OTIS REDDING "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" (1968) [2,219 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrXc68gNjQ

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

JUST RIGHT

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

woah tune for the ages

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

My Otis vote was "I've Been Loving You Too Long", but hell yeah.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I love this, but it's not half as awesome as Try a Little Tenderness.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

my fav Smiths song is "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" and I'd say that it isn't as Smithsy as "This Charming Man" tbh

but after xposts I feel lame talking about the Smiths when OTIS REDDING is being discussed

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Classic canon in its proper placing!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I love this, but it's not half as awesome as Try a Little Tenderness.

OTM, especially the live versions.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dock of the Bay" is why I don't vote on these things because clearly in good conscience it belongs to be about here on the poll but in the real world there's a ton of Otis songs I'd rather listen to.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

love how the bass line ebbs in and out like the water splashing. perfect song.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

It's great, but rather shamefully whenever I hear it the image of Reeves & Mortimer pops into my head now.

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Another artist that I couldn't really pick a clear favourite song... Can't quibble with this placing though.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

OTIS! If the whole top 20 is as perfect as the past two songs then <3 forever. Best whistle in all of recorded music.

Anyone else finding it weird how little #1 votes have shown up?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

The next one has a first place vote.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

xp i suspect theres a lot of 'strategic voting' going on, consciously or not, where people use their top few votes on their less canonized personal favorites just in case its enough to catapult them into the poll

also unranked ballots dont have #1 votes

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Three #1 songs got just one vote.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It seems that appearing on roughly 1/4+ of the ballots is more important than #1 spots.

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

'This Charming Man' I got sick of for a while but then I started paying proper attention to the guitar line and now I love it again.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

18. LAURIE ANDERSON "O Superman" (1981) [2,249 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzYu88jIDYs

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO LOW

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO AVANT-GARDE

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

my number one was a personal kind of thing. i'd be very surprised if it wasn't able to pick up a vote elsewhere though.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and laurie anderson. actually thought despite the buzz and talk it might miss out. pretty interesting and uh, groundbreaking i suppose.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

HI MOM

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

xp lol

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the magic eye painting of pop music. i have tried but i can't see shit.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

can someone explain the real world impact of this track? Would most people around at the time recognize it? I assume the answer is no but you never know...

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

It was #2 in the UK.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't think I voted for 'O Superman' but I love it anyway. Have never heard Big Science though.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd be very surprised if my number one pick picked up any other votes.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

it was very big among the people I knew.

those bird sounds get me every time.

Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

up next is 'you set the scene'. i mean it's just GOTTA appear.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

17. THE BEATLES "Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967) [2,254 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJjjYSR9RqE

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

also too low

Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, and just watched that video for 'temptation'. i never really realised how methodical BS's guitar playing was. i always assumed he was just kind of having a go. not that he hasn't stumbled on spectacular results, mind you.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

"O Superman" was number 2, felt like it was in the charts for ages back at a time when that happened in the UK, daytime radio was playing the shit out of it. As I said before, a lot of the interest was as a novelty record but who cares? It entered public consciousness.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

the best of the ~famous~ beatles songs

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

my Beatles choice. is that 4 from them now?

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

If you say so. I don't not like this one as much as I don't like Penny Lane, but there are 50 Beatles songs I like more than any that have placed on this list. xps

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

That's 3 Beatles songs.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I doubt that the Beatles songs I voted for are going to place.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

One of my favourite Beatles, and my first vote to appear in the top 20.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

meh

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

great beatles song

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

One thing that's been bugging me since nominations closed is that I blanked on putting up While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I could conceivably have given it my #1 ballot spot.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm hoping good vibrations is #1 though. I could handle I Feel Love being #1 as well.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

This countdown needs more mellotron, as well as cowbell

Satantango! (Matt #2), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow that Laurie Anderson track is irritating as hell!

Darin, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

you should have linked the Candy Flip version

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

hey can one of the poll-runners, by chance, e-mail me my ballot? I am beginning to forget what I voted for!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DjWpq8Oyoc

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i find 'while my guitar gently weeps' a bit over-earnest. i like how playful and poised 'strawberry fields' is.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL DJP. The way he looks up and sings into the camera is just awful.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

huh so o superman is an imogen heap song, who woulda thunk it.

/trolling

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Strawberry Fields Forever is an "acceptable" Beatles song. Then again my favorite Beatles song is Rocky Raccoon, so... my opinions should probably be ignored.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Rocky Raccoon is ace.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I will admit that watching even a portion of that video made me understand why ppl so vehemently hated Candy Flip at the time; I only ever heard it on the radio and thought it was a good jam to dance to.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I sent your ballot via ilx mail, Sir Viceroy.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

candy flip guy formed a hard rock/alt.metal band that was fairly popular in kerrang circles/had a few chart hits. I cant remember their name offhand though. Where is djmartian these days?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

If 'In The Midnight Hour' doesn't appear soon I will kill all you ghastly people with murder.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

SFF would have been my #1 track if I had ranked my ballot. It's no screaming hell as a piece of songwriting, but its sonic palette is vast and continually mystifying. Still stands as perhaps the most FORWARD THINKING piece of actually popular pop music ever.

Sorry, emily.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

'Twas I who nommed Uptown Top Ranking and I'm super-excited to see it pop up. Guess I should give up hope for Marquee Moon though. Dammit!

Morley Timmons, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I sent your ballot via ilx mail, Sir Viceroy.

Thank you kindly, Mr. Senor.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

16. TALKING HEADS "Once in a Lifetime" (1980) [2,281 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1wg1DNHbNU

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

wow figured that was a lock for top 10 or even 5

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad 'O Superman' made it, but wish it had been higher. Also, as many people have pointed out, it was NUMBER 2 IN THE CHARTS, so not sure where the dig about actually popular comes from.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm glad that the Dr. Who theme made it but I'm sad that none of the other themes made it and it seems soundtrack music like Morricone was ignored in general. :(

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for the themes from Exodus and Gone With the Wind. I haven't looked, but I'd be surprised if I had much company.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

does 'moon river' count as soundtrack music?

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

It should. Was written specifically for Breakfast at Tiffany's.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Never understood why Once in a Lifetime is such a big deal, and I love Talking Heads.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

should have nommed the sanford & son theme

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - Cool video though.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I suggested the Knight Rider theme during nominations, but it didn't end up on the list in the end.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Heads suffered same fate as many other artists on my ballot - instead of laboring over which of many tracks got the shortest straw round after round, they just got cut entirely to avoid that headache. Glad to see this one appear tho.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad 'O Superman' made it, but wish it had been higher. Also, as many people have pointed out, it was NUMBER 2 IN THE CHARTS, so not sure where the dig about actually popular comes from.

It didn't do well in the US, which is why the US posters tend to be incredulous when a ton of UK posters are like "oh yes, I know that song well"

as an aside FUCKING YES ULTIMATELY THE BEST TALKING HEADS SONG THAT ISN'T "Take Me To The River"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

or "I Zimbra"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

should have nommed the sanford & son theme

Some day I will be in a nursing home and the only thing I will be able to remember will be that music.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

as an aside FUCKING YES ULTIMATELY THE BEST TALKING HEADS SONG THAT ISN'T "Take Me To The River"

― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, December 3, 2010 6:27 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or "I Zimbra"

― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, December 3, 2010 6:27 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark

I agree with you on those two.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll be there to call you "dummy" xpost

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

It didn't do well in the US, which is why the US posters tend to be incredulous when a ton of UK posters are like "oh yes, I know that song well"

Expecting something similar if "Ghosts" shows up

Satantango! (Matt #2), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

btw folks, "O Superman" is a good example of minimalism in popular music, for your future arguments about ppl like Kanye etc

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

'This Must Be The Place' got my vote, I went through a big Talking Heads phase in my early 20s and I still hold them in very high regard.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Was "I Zimbra" even nominated? I would have voted that in a heartbeat.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

If you had voted, that is.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

right

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

15. THE SPECIALS "Ghost Town" (1981) [2,304 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZ8428GSrI

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

wait, really?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck yeah! Totally solid track.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

haha ILM in a nutshell, those last two posts

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Two great songs in a row that I thought might be in with a shot of being number one.

I just never get bored of Ghost Town.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Excellent!

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I have never heard "Ghost Town" before.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Yet another UK chart hit that confuses everyone else.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Holy shit, I don't think I've ever heard Ghost Town except for the intro (is it sampled somewhere?), but it's awesome! Totally worthy of the #15 spot!

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

xxx-post

Was that track a mostly UK voter thing? I don't think I've ever even heard this before.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

wow i don't know this song either, wasn't expecting to be surprised at this stage of the poll

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I gotta say, I don't understand not getting "Once In A Lifetime". The beat is great, the vocal performance is great, the claustrophobic lyrics are great... it's a time capsule of awesome from a band that was frequently awesome and possibly captures their aesthetic better than any of their other songs (even if it arguably isn't their BEST song, it reads as the most Talking Heads-ish song ever recorded; I can't imagine another band doing it).

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i love when ilx surprises

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

"Once in a Lifetime" has a brilliant chorus, but all that talks stuff in the verses is boring as hell. Someone should do a remix with just the chorus.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

"talks" = "talky"

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

no! it's the dual talk/bassline that makes the song great!

Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Chorusing Heads

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

what the hell, Tuomas

the verses are the HEART of the song

do you also complain about "I Zimbra" being from a Dadaist poem?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Yesss. 'Ghost Town' in a totally deserved place there.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Ghost Town from what I remember was pretty huge in Uk. Possibly got to #1. It was on Top Of The Pops a lot anyway.

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - I'd suggest "Once in a Lifetime" might be a US version of "Ghost Town" in that its importance is in part associated with the massive effect it had on people at the time, but I could be completely wrong . For me it's definitely a good song but it lacks some of the properties that make the great Talking Heads songs great, and I wouldn't vote for it on a poll like this.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Was that track a mostly UK voter thing? I don't think I've ever even heard this before.

― _Rudipherous_, Friday, December 3, 2010 6:37 PM (39 seconds ago)

Yeah it was a huge number one hit here. The Specials were massive for about three years.

It's so great some people will discover songs like Ghost Town for the first time, this makes the list seem like a huge success.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i go out on friday night and i come home on saturday morning

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Wikipedia: The song spent three weeks at number one and ten weeks in the top 40 of the UK Singles Chart overall.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm having trouble believing this is a world beating track in the UK but if you say so...

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Around the time of riots in England unless my 10 yr old self is remembering wrongly.

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Was that track a mostly UK voter thing? I don't think I've ever even heard this before.

I'm assuming so - it was a #1 single and no-one ever seems to have anything bad so say about it. Not my personal favourite Specials song but yeah, it's great.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - I'd suggest "Once in a Lifetime" might be a US version of "Ghost Town" in that its importance is in part associated with the massive effect it had on people at the time, but I could be completely wrong . For me it's definitely a good song but it lacks some of the properties that make the great Talking Heads songs great, and I wouldn't vote for it on a poll like this.

Eh, I'm not sure; I think if you were looking for the US Talking Heads impact song, it would be "Life During Wartime" or "Take Me To The River"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

haven't heard song in ages and forgot how good the 'do you remember....' bit is

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

14. THE KINKS "Waterloo Sunset" (1967) [2,350 points, 21 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpL4xbfmXlQ

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

(and "Burning Down The House" was their real mainstream breakthrough)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i go out on friday night and i come home on saturday morning

― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, December 3, 2010 6:42 PM (41 seconds ago)

I possibly like that one even more than Ghost Town, when people ask me about my favourite lyrics in songs (they never really do) I would always say that song.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

OK yeah, fine with this too.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Eh, I'm not sure; I think if you were looking for the US Talking Heads impact song, it would be "Life During Wartime" or "Take Me To The River"

Ok. I thought there was something about the video for Once in a Lifetime being huge on early MTV.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

if you were looking for the US Talking Heads impact song, it would be "Life During Wartime" or "Take Me To The River"

Really? I think "Once in a Lifetime" had more impact than those, but I could be wrong. "Psycho Killer" is pretty well-known too, I would think, but people who might otherwise not know their music.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I guess Burning Down the House, too.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, my own first exposure to Talking Heads was the Once in a Lifetime video on MTV. They played it about once an hour, even in 1983/84.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok. I thought there was something about the video for Once in a Lifetime being huge on early MTV.

oh that is possible; I never had MTV in its heyday so I am fuzzy on the history there. I was going off of what I heard on the radio at the time and Wikipedia info on single performance

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

beautiful track, voted for this one. sincere and cheeky at the same time.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember (fondly) my Kinks immersion period ca. 1995. I bought everything by them I could get my hands on, to the point of not being able to concentrate on any one album in particular...except Something Else. "Waterloo Sunset" and "David Watts" are absolutely terrific.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

MN rock radio played "Life During Wartime" and "Take Me To The River" to DEATH in the early/mid 80s; I didn't know anything about "Once In A Lifetime" until Stop Making Sense came out (but I did know "I Zimbra", lol)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

This is turning out way better and surprising than I expected. Happy to see The Specials and Althea and Donna so high.

I'll give a meh for 'once in a lifetime' 'waterloo sunset' and 'this charming man'. All of them are songs I like but wouldn't consider them as the best of each band's respective output, let alone the best of the century.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

in my experience you can hear Burning Down the House, Once in a Lifetime, and Psycho Killer in generally equal proportions on rock radio but not much past that.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

this poll is reminding me to go get all of those old Talking Heads albums since I don't live with my brother anymore

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Add "And She Was," I remember that being unavoidable on the dial when it came out. xp

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Waterloo Sunset is my favourite Kinks song, but I'm not really a fan.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

13. STEVIE WONDER "Superstition" (1972) [2,358 points, 22 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

hell yeah

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

two hours of meetings, have fun everybody

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

The Sesame Street performance of this is one of my favourite live clips ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ul7X5js1vE

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

The Sesame Street performance of this is one of my favourite live clips ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ul7X5js1vE

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Shit, sorry!

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

oh fuck yea, that song is for all time

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

A childhood favorite, still a favorite now.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Superstition is my least favourite track of the list so far. It bores me to tears.

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

OUT

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

hope Santa brings you a heart for christmas

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Why are you even on a board called I LOVE MUSIC?

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I prefer this performance to the sesame street one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjsVWSHw5fQ

Fetchboy, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

daavid is obv. some kind of cartoon villain that the Care Bears usually take 'care' of.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad 'O Superman' made it, but wish it had been higher. Also, as many people have pointed out, it was NUMBER 2 IN THE CHARTS, so not sure where the dig about actually popular comes from.

Wasn't thinking about "O Superman" or anything else in particular, tbh. Wasn't trying to put in a dig. Yes, I'm North American and no, I'd never heard 'O Superman' before. I think you could go to pretty much any point on the globe and play the intro to "Strawberry Fields" and people would know it, so... anyhow, I stand behind my statement, without meaning to step on the heads of other contenders. ("Once in a Lifetime" is pretty fucking forward-thinking, too, and "When Doves Cry", and "Superstition", and... )

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted for 2 other stevie songs but this is also cool

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

"forward-thinking" is a bit nebulous and pointless but so is "all the world knows a Beatles"

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't believe Stevie's only 60 years old.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

12. DAVID BOWIE "Heroes" (1977) [2,444 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgcc5V9Hu3g

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

waterloo sunset has had too much said about it but for the guy who YAWNed at YRGM, i love that song.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

So, staggerlee, would you say the Beatles were the most omnipresent music ever, except maybe behind Christmas music? Because if so, I know a thread for you...

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

This is one of the trademark Bowie songs that's never done a damn thing for me. Where's Golden Years?

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

One of my favorites, and one of the 3 Bowie tracks I voted for.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

nice. i voted heroes at #13, so i can't complain with where it placed at all. obviously just a fantastic song.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty meh about both 'Superstition' and 'Heroes', to be perfectly honest.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

So, staggerlee, would you say the Beatles were the most omnipresent music ever, except maybe behind Christmas music? Because if so, I know a thread for you...

ITT: Tell The Beatles to Fuck Off

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I am also a humungous Bowie fan who thinks "'Heroes'" is a bit boring.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes I hate when people think The Beatles are the most omnipresent music ever. I could play the 'strawberry fields' intro to all of my friends and I think less than half would actually recognize it.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, LJ, I was actually thinking of the Whiney thread. That thread seems more purpose built for me.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

So, staggerlee, would you say pizza is the most omnipresent food ever, except maybe behind cooked/steamed rice? Because if so, I know a thread for you...

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Shit that comment upthread probably got me a few SBs.

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

might as well be the Fripp masturbation

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Fetchboy, that Stevie video has the edge for dancing - but I prefer the extended jam with full band on Sesame Street.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

'superstition' is nice, just overplayed, which has dulled me to everything that's good about it.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't get with everything posted today but a few classix for sure. Fripp masturbation line gonna haunt y'all.

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm slowly beginning to realize that it seems likely this poll will have no Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Jacques Brel, Sarah Vaughan, Edith Piaf, or Frank Sinatra. Even though the top 25 has been mostly good so far, the lack of those giants seems all kinds of wrong, especially considering that artistically limited bands like Smiths or Joy Division have multiple songs in the top 100.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread (list) has really got me obsessing over 'surf's up'. i've been playing it over and over the last couple of days, having previously not given it its due.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for some Fripp and Eno mutual masturbation.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

surfin usa > xp

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm slowly beginning to realize that it seems likely this poll will have no Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Jacques Brel, Sarah Vaughan, Edith Piaf, or Frank Sinatra. Even though the top 25 has been mostly good so far, the lack of those giants seems all kinds of wrong, especially considering that artistically limited bands like Smiths or Joy Division have multiple songs in the top 100.

the last bit is completely otm, the first bit probably otm too

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I only listened to David Bowie's Heroes after I heard the Wallflowers cover. I think that made me appreciate it even more. Killer bassline!

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

oh my god, an overwhelmingly former-and-current indie audience voted a bunch of classic rock and indie heroes into the top 100 songs of the century over a bunch of jazz standards, surely this is the most unexpected result to come out of this poll aside from the shocking lack of Britten

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

tuomas - screw that, it has no eric b and rakim, nas, melle mel or premo. or grandmaster flash! seriously, no planet rock? i will be slightly annoyed

heroes is nice though.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Exactly how are The Smiths and Joy Division "artistically limited", Tuomas?

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Ignoring Tuomas' personal (and thus inevitably wrong) opinion of 'artistically limited', I do think it's a shame that we don't even have a token from some of those big players. I don't even like half of them, but we definitely need more variation again.

xpost We *definitely* need 'Paid In Full' to make an appearance.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah sean. I'm a grump. Musicians playing on Sesame Street and the Muppet Show etc. is always a big turn-off for me. I'd much rather get inspired by awesome dance moves than watch a bunch of puppets getting down to a song.

Fetchboy, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

11. KATE BUSH "Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)" (1985) [2,446 points, 27 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuLlwUaEyr0

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

tuomas - screw that, it has no eric b and rakim, nas, melle mel or premo. or grandmaster flash! seriously, no planet rock? i will be slightly annoyed

I think "Planet Rock" and "The Message" still have some chances of showing up. But yeah, if neither of them is in the top 100, that is equally baffling and wrong.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - If "Love Hangover" had placed, I would have posted the crazy Muppet Show video.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

I love this song to bits, but coming on the heels of Tuomas and a hoy hoy's posts underlines my sarcasm nicely

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

lol ILM

xpost to johnny fever

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

great song but only my 4th favorite on that record after "hello earth", "cloudbusting", and "hounds of love"

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Only things I could think of to nominate for this tbh were "Devil Got My Woman" - which somebody else nominated and I assume finished nowhere, fuck you very much - and Charles Ives' The Unanswered Question, which clearly couldn't hope to outgun something as great as "This Charming Man". So the lesson is: don't play, just bitch.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm slowly beginning to realize that it seems likely this poll will have no Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Jacques Brel, Sarah Vaughan, Edith Piaf, or Frank Sinatra. Even though the top 25 has been mostly good so far, the lack of those giants seems all kinds of wrong, especially considering that artistically limited bands like Smiths or Joy Division have multiple songs in the top 100.

Too bad not enough 70-80 year olds post on ILM. I agree with you that its ridiculous and that the poll has for the most part ignored the first half of the 20th century, but I think there's just a certain distance to that era that keeps the music from being very emotionally resonant with the population of people voting in this poll; and I think for the most part people went with music they were subjectively most connected to emotionally, rather than analytically picking "the most important songs." This was a "BEST" poll and not a "Most Important/Influential" so I think people largely went with what satisfies them subjectively and pre-50s stuff just doesn't seem to be it.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I did everything I could during nominations and with my own ballot to get pre-1960 music in the top 125, but it was largely a failed mission.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Any chance of getting the whole top ten over and done with now? I've got to go out in ten minutes.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

2nd Kate Bush song, right? #11 is pretty wtf but whatev

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

top 10 gonna be wall to wall steely dan and fleetwood mac iirc, maybe a smattering of 'you set the scene' which hey I voted for

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

nice. an incredible 27 votes too. so much for running up that hill/cloudbusting vote-splitting

3rd kate song

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

'you set the scene' has been totally robbed if it doesn't crack the top 125.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Exactly how are The Smiths and Joy Division "artistically limited", Tuomas?

Compared to the artists I mentioned their stylistic and sonic range as well as skill level is considerably narrower. Sure, they might've been able to do "that one thing" that indie kids love, but IMO to be a giant you have to have a done a lot of things, and done them well.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Any chance of getting the whole top ten over and done with now? I've got to go out in ten minutes.

Nope, but you'll have it to come back to later.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, if it does end up being Steely Dan and Fleetwood Mac then you should all be very thankful I'm going out, as I would be swearing up and down this thread.

Still hoping for The Shaggs. Surprise #1, maybe?

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

And don't worry, JF, I *was* joking.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I love The Smiths and Joy Division, but to claim they have much more than one trick would be dishonest.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Viceroy OTM!

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

xp It's not about tricks.

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

The earliest track on my ballot was 1954 (it hasn't placed) but I've no regrets about that - I voted for songs that resonate with me - I haven't broken it down by year/decade but I know there was a lot from the '80s/'90s. Picking the most important tracks didn't come into it (though that would've been an interesting exercise).

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Too bad not enough 70-80 year olds post on ILM.

But a lot of ILXors are in their 20s or early 30s, so all of the 60s and 70s tunes in this poll are equally historical to them - they weren't alive, or at least not conscious, when they originally came out.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

stravinsky in top 10 surprise package?

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I was surprised when I realized nothing was nominated from the Dreaming. If I had been paying attention, I might have nominated Sat in Your Lap or Suspended in Gaffa.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Joy Div had 2 tricks, Smiths maybe 1 and a half. Let's keep it honest indie-haters.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Also Fleetwood Mac and Steely Dan would be fine by me!

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Compared to the artists I mentioned their stylistic and sonic range as well as skill level is considerably narrower. Sure, they might've been able to do "that one thing" that indie kids love, but IMO to be a giant you have to have a done a lot of things, and done them well.

this is how I feel about Kate Bush.

I feel you kinda on Joy Division re: skill level, but the Smiths were excellent musicians.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

My earliest track was '30s, I think. But I'd have to go and look them all up to be sure.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Picking the most important tracks didn't come into it (though that would've been an interesting exercise).

That's what I was getting at with my subjective/objective statement during nominations or voting (whenever it was). I WISH it would've played out more like an "influential" poll rather than a "pet favorites" poll.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

To me it seems more like that rock fans make a clear break between the "rock era" and "pre-rock era", and they don't even bother trying the artists that belong to the latter. It's not like pre-1960s music is hard to find these days.

(several x-posts)

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

You can't ever make that happen Johnny, it's an inherent flaw of the system.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

new order played bass, drums, guitar, synths and sang. all coltrane ever did was play a horn -- talk about limited

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

and a new day dawns. really liking this closing stretch - much more varied than i'd ever have expected. for instance, i'd never so much as heard of althea and donna, much less heard "uptown top ranking" (that i know of, though there is something vaguely familiar about it). GREAT SONG, really fantastic. listened to it a little while back and it's been bouncing around in my head ever since. funny thing is that it does at first sound exactly like the sort of forgettable, bog standard reggae jam that others upthread wrote it off as, but slowly develops this sly, loping charm. it sounds relaxed because all reggae sounds relaxed in a way, but underneath that it has all this bubbly enthusiasm and youthful swagger. and it's catchy as hell. i wouldn't take it over a bunch of canonical reggae classics that didn't make the list at all ("007/shanty town", "rivers of babylon", "steppin razor", "redemption songs", that kind of thing), but i can also see as how it might become one of my underdog favorites in the long run. maybe...

i gave "o superman" that #1 vote. maybe i'd change that in retrospect because it turns out that it hardly needed my overenthusiastic assistance, and it isn't my single favorite song of the 20th century, not by a long shot. i did very much want it to do well, though, and also to make a statement about its importance to me personally, as a song that opened a lot of doors when i was young. glad that so many other people love it, too.

was going on last night about how blue oyster cult might be my favorite rock band period (note important placement of "might"), so i love the fact that "don't fear the reaper" finished so high. as a fan both of the band and 70s rock, i'm beyond burned out on that song, would sooner listen to at least 20 others by the band, but i voted for it because i remembered how it sounded when i first heard it long ago, in th back of a volvo station wagon on the way to see "the bad news bears", how mysterious, seductive and terrifying, a visitation from a place i'd never imagined. i still think it's one of the most lovely and deathly songs ever to have been a top 40 hit during the AOR era, a perfect goth horror movie in sound long before anyone thought to call anything "goth". and there must be an english word that means "lovely and deathly" right? how could our language fail us here? whatever it is, i can't think of it.

and a big FUCK YES to this morning's big star, michael jackson and otis redding tunes. all very close to my heart and the sort of stuff i'm happy to see filling out the top 25, with apologies to all those who fought and died prior to the summer of love. i yam what i yam. voted for "heroes" too, but it pales next to the former 3.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

To me it seems more like argument fans make a clear break between their "awesome taste" and other people's "pre-awesome taste", and they don't even bother not making sweeping assumptions about how other people choose to vote.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

boring as those choices might be

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

But a lot of ILXors are in their 20s or early 30s, so all of the 60s and 70s tunes in this poll are equally historical to them.

Equally historical to pre-war music? That's just intellectually bankrupt... I mean, people have parents you know, a lot of us had boomer parents and mine certainly didn't play a lot of 30s and 40s jazz while I was growing up. I think the music your parents play has a lot to do with informing your musical sensibilities.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Exactly how are The Smiths and Joy Division "artistically limited", Tuomas?

Compared to the artists I mentioned their stylistic and sonic range as well as skill level is considerably narrower. Sure, they might've been able to do "that one thing" that indie kids love, but IMO to be a giant you have to have a done a lot of things, and done them well.

― Tuomas, Friday, December 3, 2010 7:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

OK so you mean limited as opposed to diverse. Anyway this a poll about tracks not artists. Note that I still agree with the general sentiment re: the smiths and joy division.

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

@Tuomas: The influence of 60s/70s music on 80s/90s/00s rock/indie/etc. is clear; jazz, especially pre-electric jazz is not in the same lineage and requires a different vocabulary to contextualise it.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

But a lot of ILXors are in their 20s or early 30s, so all of the 60s and 70s tunes in this poll are equally historical to them - they weren't alive, or at least not conscious, when they originally came out.

but the songs were around, on the radio, on parents' stereos etc.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

he's just pissed at the lack of sibelius

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I wrote this last night, pertaining to the subject:

I was thinking about it a little while ago and concluded that, as much as we'd all like to represent for a lot of pre-1960 music, there's just SO MUCH of it (60 years' worth) and not everyone has had the time or will to go back and really familiarize themselves with enough of it for it to become instinctual to vote for. That's fair. Artists from the '60s and '70s are still in the public consciousness today, whether we're hearing them on the radio or reading their obits in the paper, or hearing covers of their songs by present-day artists. Pre-1960 music is generally relegated to radio stations that our grandparents listen to, isn't much talked about or regarded in day-to-day life, and really only captures our attention when used strategically in a film (like "Cheek to Cheek" was in The Green Mile, for example).

If a bunch 70 and 80 year olds were voting in this poll, I wouldn't expect to see a single Prince or Joy Division song make the cut, but a whole lot of Nat King Cole and Rosemary Clooney instead.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

That's what I was getting at with my subjective/objective statement during nominations or voting (whenever it was). I WISH it would've played out more like an "influential" poll rather than a "pet favorites" poll.

I could well have put together an alternative ballot along those lines - it'd be quite a challenge I think.
The main difficulties would be weighing up a) important one-off songs vs. representative tracks from important artists and b) epochal songs from totally different genres.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

but the songs were around, on the radio, on parents' stereos etc.

You can't really claim Sinatra's or Ellington's songs aren't around on the radio and everywhere else too - much more than The Smiths' or Joy Division's, in fact.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

"I have no kicks against modern jazz
Unless they try to play it too darn fast
And change the beauty of the melody
Until it sounds just like a symphony
That's why I go for that..."

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

If my 70-year-old father was voting in this, there most definitely would be Prince on the list; possibly also Seal.

(And... Vanilla Fudge)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, if you stop a random person on the street, even if he isn't an old geezer, he's a 1000 times more likely to recognize a Sinatra tune than a Joy Division tune.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

ha my 70-year old dad would probly vote for the Killers god help us.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Your father is an outlier.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

lol, The Killers?!

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for reposting that, Johnny, I thought I'd read that sentiment mentioned earlier upthread but couldn't place it among the 2000+ posts.
uh xp

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

dude don't think I've ever heard a Sinatra or Ellington song on the radio, for real. but really, I don't think that's the reason for the lack of representation. agree with combination of other explanations that have been offered: temporal distance from it, pre vs post rock n roll, etc

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

itt, massive stereotyping of old people

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

OKAY ANYWAY...WHO WANTS TO SPECULATE ON THE TOP 10? It's coming up...

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Tuomas, I think part of it is that the whole generation gap thing was more of an issue for baby boomers and early generation x people like myself than it is for the generations that have come since. There was much more of a sense of making a break with previous generations, in the 60s, than I think there was in later decades. This is just a general sense I have, I could be wrong. I mean, if anything hearing my mom play her old music and definitely having her watching her old movies tended to turn me off to those things. They seemed like they were not mine. That's moderated for me somewhat over the years, but not entirely.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

srsly, he got really obsessed with "Human" when it came out

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Worst absences in this poll so far: Roy Orbison, James Brown

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, what seandalai said.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

If my Dad voted it'd still be full of Beatles songs but you could swap New Order for Johnny & The Hurricanes.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

what weirds me out are the hardcore camp followers of a particular artist, sound, scene or era. i mean, i LOVE sonic youth to death and they are like my eternal flaming badge of 80s artrock allegiance, but i'd have felt unbearably corny voting for more than one sonic youth song. the world just isn't that small, you know?

i have in my head this imaginary army of enemy ILXors who not only voted for five smiths songs, but five kraftwerk songs AND five new order songs, etc. EACH. like in my mind there are few of them, but they are united and they all wear the same clothes. which i'm sure is not actually the case, but thinking the worst of the enemy gets my dander up (do i have a dander? where is it?).

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreed on both. xp to NickB

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

they probably voted for a bunch of kate bush songs, too. how i hate them.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

#10 coming up...

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Kraftwerk, Wire, The Smiths, Kate Bush, Steeley Dan to feature heavily in this ILM top ten...

(j/k... at least I hope!)

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

OKAY ANYWAY...WHO WANTS TO SPECULATE ON THE TOP 10? It's coming up...

God Only Knows
Good Vibrations
Wichita Lineman (would love this to be #1)
Er...

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

what weirds me out are the hardcore camp followers of a particular artist, sound, scene or era. i mean, i LOVE sonic youth to death and they are like my eternal flaming badge of 80s artrock allegiance, but i'd have felt unbearably corny voting for more than one sonic youth song. the world just isn't that small, you know?

i have in my head this imaginary army of enemy ILXors who not only voted for five smiths songs, but five kraftwerk songs AND five new order songs, etc. EACH. like in my mind there are few of them, but they are united and they all wear the same clothes. which i'm sure is not actually the case, but thinking the worst of the enemy gets my dander up (do i have a dander? where is it?).

― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:36 (1 second ago)

^^^mirrors my own feelings

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

If I had voted, my ballot would likely have been stuffed with Cure and Prince songs

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

haha i think about those imaginary people too xxxp

in reality its probably just lots of different people each voting for 2 or 3 songs by those bands

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

(Some of that post to Tuomas was too someone else but I was too lazy to go back and see who I was responding to.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

being a drummer, i may be biased but I think a lack of a heavy yet simple rhythm (kick snare kick snare) played on a well-mic'd/mixed trap set plays a large part in why pre-60 stuff is not felt as much by subsequent generations.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

THE SHAGGS THE SHAGGS THE SHAGGS.

Will someone please make a fake #1 for 'My Pal Foot-Foot' for me?

Alright, I'm out. Enjoy the top 10, guys.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I speculate that Paid In Full is in the top 10 along with 'Black Steel In the Hour Of Chaos' and Shook Ones Part II and Close To Me and Protect Ya Neck. okay I don't speculate, I hope :)

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Hoping God Only Knows.... that would be a good #1.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's less a case of "I want 5 New Order songs in the top 125" than "I really want a New Order song, and I don't know which ones other fans will vote for, so I'd better vote for a bunch of them".

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

10. GRANDMASTER FLASH & THE FURIOUS FIVE "The Message" (1982) [2,474 points, 26 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

YEEEESSSSS!

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

WOOP!

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

whee

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

like, the point of voting for your favorite songs from a list of nominees isn't to flex about how broad your musical tastes are, it's to tell someone what your favorite songs are; doing otherwise is gaming the system and totally dishonest

xp: OH YES GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Also thanks to whoever posted that Stevie @ sesame Street link!

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

FUCK YES! Great start to the Top 10!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I predict/hope "Be My Baby" is coming up.

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I was obsessed with "The Message" when it came out :D

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Now that's what I'm talking 'bout!

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

That is very worthy! It's both historically important, and a great tune too, sonically and lyrically.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

spent many years pondering what a sacroliliac might be

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Gimme Shelter
I Feel Love
Billie Jean
Wichita Lineman
Anarchy In The UK
Good Vibrations

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

artistically limited imo

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Personally, I would like to have seen a less ethnocentric selection of songs, but oh well. (I don't go much beyond adding Latin music and Arabic music anyway, which still leaves out most of the rest of the world.) The fact that we can't even have some Celia Cruz or Willie Colon (and we could have gotten them together in one song) or Benny More bums me out a bit.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, still here just to say YEAH, another one of mine.

emil.y, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Happy to see the Message, though it's not the Grandmaster Flash song I voted for.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

really, this is still the first song that comes to my mind when I think of hip-hop (which probably explains why I feel so much antipathy towards modern hip-hop)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

it's frequently the first song that comes to mind when I think of Sugar Ray Leonard tbh

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost It is the sacrum and ilium bones, which are typically fused together as part of the overall pelvic girdle. The sacroiliac basically refers to the backside of your pelvis.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

your eyes will sing a song of deep hate...

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a lack of one/two hit wonders, isn't there? as if the poll where the best songs but only from the subset of the best artists.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Love the synth line so much.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxpost yeah I know that now I am grown up and can google it :D

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, the grandmaster flash song is justified even if it isn't my bag.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I've come to terms with the fact that this poll will have no Elvis Presley.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised to see Bohemian Rhapsody show up.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxpost sorry, I'm a boring physical anthropology pedant. XD

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Seems criminal, right? xps

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

wait, did i miss gold soundz or is that still to come?

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I've come to terms with the fact that this poll will have no Elvis Presley.

now watch, the next track will be "Hound Dog"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Gold Soundz is #1 I think.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Gold Soundz is #2. That Modest Mouse song is #1.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

also Johnny Fever 100% OTM about why pre-60s stuff gets lost in the shuffle. it's distant, so what survives seems too familiar, and what doesn't can be hard to see. and it's just vast. the amount of supposedly worthy music recorded in the 20th century is absolutely overwhelming, a sea that no one could ever become fully familiar with, no matter how much time they dedicated to the pursuit. the fact that this list is composed almost entirely of pop hits from the US and UK is testament to this. there are endless seas of music from elsewhere that we've never even heard of.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Well I guess some of us can stop watching the countdown now, thanks
xp

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

is there honestly going to be no leonard cohen or zappa in this poll?

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought #1 was going to be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psuRGfAaju4

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Gimme Shelter
I Feel Love
Billie Jean
Wichita Lineman
Anarchy In The UK
Good Vibrations
Bohemian Rhapsody
Sex Machine

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ that would be boring. though the first two you mentioned deserve to be up there.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

which zappa song is among the best of the 20th century?

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

like, the point of voting for your favorite songs from a list of nominees isn't to flex about how broad your musical tastes are, it's to tell someone what your favorite songs are; doing otherwise is gaming the system and totally dishonest

― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, December 3, 2010 11:39 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

yes, but if your legitimate favorites are boring and narrow, then you are boring and narrow and deserve a vigorous pooh-poohing

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

gold soundz

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

The lack of Leonard Cohen is a heartbreaker. I voted for a couple of his tracks I think... (I know at least one).

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

....and You Set The Scene (although I'd dispute a coupla those) xps

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

was hoping for "white lines", tbph

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Just looking over the nominations list there's a few I thought would be in here for sure,

Walk On By
Say a Little Prayer
Son of a Preacher Man
Suspicious Minds

Definitely think we're waiting for two more Beach Boys songs, Wichita Lineman, Billie Jean and I Feel Love.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I think none of the songs I mentioned downthread will make it and I fear I'll have to keep my promise thus vetoing myself out of ILM for a while

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

well, i voted 'peaches en regalia' at #37, so that for starters. @ mookieproof

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't seandalai say 15 out of the top 25 are by artists that only appear once? Is anyone counting cards in this round?

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

also no Scott Walker so far... another gross injustice.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I Feel Love
Billie Jean
Be My Baby
God Only Knows
Satisfaction
another Beatles one
Anarchy In The UK

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

which zappa song is among the best of the 20th century?

'Watermelon in Easter Hay' got points from me. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

But yes I'll be sorely dissapointed if Gang of Four, Human League, The Normal or Can don't show up. Chances are very slim now but you never know.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Thought all these would be certs for the 100:

Alone Again Or
Lost in Music
(I'm) Stranded
In the Midnight Hour
Tutti Frutti
Sex Machine

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Telstar too.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

also no Scott Walker so far... another gross injustice.

Cowbells Shakin' is a lock, bro.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

omg i'm puking my guts out if Anarchy in the UK is #1

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think the Beach Boys will show up twice.... 'god only knows' is a given not sure if any other one of them will make it.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't seandalai say 15 out of the top 25 are by artists that only appear once?

Did I say this? It might be true but I'd have to check.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

No fucking way is "Anarchy in the UK" placing

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

xxpost: JF said that.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

omg i'm puking my guts out if Anarchy in the UK is #1

massive cosign

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

No fucking way is "Anarchy in the UK" placing

― absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:56 (21 seconds ago)

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm on board for gut-puking

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

It's maybe the 6th or 7th best Pistols single maybe.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Marquee Moon could be a dark horse, people.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

'the long and winding road' is obviously #1

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

it better place. hoping alone again or will too

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I would love to see Warm Leatherette in the top ten, it certainly is an important song and it wouldn't suffer from split voting. I voted Being Boiled quite high too.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Did "Who Killed Bambi?" get released as a single? It's not as good as that for example.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lol'ing at complaints there needs to be more arty white acts here

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

'the long and winding road' is obviously #1

-- Dadrock Magazine

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

the thing about The Sex Pistols is that they were a massively important, seminal band that were actually kind of terrible and unlistenable

basically hurray for all of the great acts they influenced/trailblazed for, but they themselves get the eternal gasface from me

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

09. THE BEACH BOYS "Good Vibrations" (1966) [2,510 points, 25 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyf0HApyfVo

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ awesome song

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

nah Pistols did a lot of great pop stuff but "Anarchy" is the boringest and least of it

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, my favorite BB song hands down.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Worthy placement for the Boys.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

wd've voted "God Only Knows" over "Good Vibes"

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I have not heard a single Pistols song that I haven't wanted to shut off 15 seconds into it

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Alone Again Or and You Set The Scene probably split the Love vote enough so neither will place

xxxxxp

peter in montreal, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Its just a shame it didn't cause a "theremin craze" where kids were rushing out to buy them.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

like I said, I get why they're important and even necessary to the creation of a bunch of music I actually DO like, but I have zero time for them

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

have you tried "Who Killed Bambi?" Dan? Could be your breakthru moment.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Were any of the top ten recorded near a coal mine? If not, it's fucking bullshit man!!!!!!

You kids don't like the Sex Pistols? What's the matter with you punks?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

The Langley Schools version of Good Vibrations is even better.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

was never (and still am not) a big beach boys fan, but that release of them just fucking around in the studio with good vibrations is totally riveting

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

being a punk stopped being punk in 1978 you fule

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i really wanted to see 'you set the scene', 'venus in furs' and 'unsatisfied' place.

what about 'respect'? has that got a chance?

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably earlier. Once it had a name, it was dead. xp

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Q: You kids don't like the Sex Pistols? What's the matter with you punks?

A: the thing about The Sex Pistols is that they were a massively important, seminal band that were actually kind of terrible and unlistenable

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

have you tried "Who Killed Bambi?" Dan? Could be your breakthru moment.

I am listening to it now

okay I made it 51 seconds

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I have the knack that the #1 will be something completely irrelevant but innofensive enough that it might have slipped through many ballots unintentionally.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

You poseurs probably voted for the commercial, boring mainstream Good Vibrations. Everybody knows that the best version is the Smiley Smile outtake.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost haha like More than a Feeling or something? Private Eyes?

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

20/20 or bust

EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

omg "Private Eyes" as the #1 song of the decade would be the funniest thing ever

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

have you tried "Who Killed Bambi?" Dan? Could be your breakthru moment.

I am listening to it now

okay I made it 51 seconds

SCIENTIFIC RIGOUR, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

ok here it comes: the fall are gonna sweep the top 8.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I have the knack that the #1 will be something completely irrelevant

are you insinuating something about 'my sharona'

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

NEW PURITAN

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I have the knack that the #1 will be something completely irrelevant but innofensive enough that it might have slipped through many ballots unintentionally.

"Yakety Sax" for the win! (Seriously, it'd be awesome if that was #1.)

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Think it'll be Le Freak, but really haven't a fog what's coming up.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, knack isn't really the right word there. inkling maybe?

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

The only shoo in I can think of is Be My Baby.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get #8. I mean I get it, but I don't get why it's so revered. XPLAIN IT TO ME VOTERS.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

08. TELEVISION "Marquee Moon" (1977) [2,587 points, 22 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlbunmCbTBA

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Blöööörgh!

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

omg too much guitars

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Nah seriously tho?

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

awesome!!!

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

watch your century/decade conflation, DJP!

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

marquee moon is dope

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Gareth out of The Office UK as much as the next guy but come on

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

the knack will be #1

Moka otm

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

that's the best track by miles on a helluvan influential record, so yeah more than worthy.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I appreciate the WTFness of this choice however

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yes! one of the all time great guitar songs

peter in montreal, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Marquee Moon could be a dark horse, people.

― kornrulez6969, Friday, December 3, 2010 2:57 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Why couldn't I have a more marketable gift?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

love it, voted for, super depressed to see it place this high

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Decent song but wtf???

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I ask (silently) for curveballs, I get curveballs.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

if you're not part of the solution people

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha wow

I didn't vote for it, but it's good

Torn Curtain is better tho

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I've tried for nigh on 20 years to break into Marquee Moon (and Adventure, and had the most success with the s/t 1992 album), but I still find Television to be absolutely snoozable. And I love guitars!!

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

hurrah for television!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh come on. Torn Curtain? Barf out.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

also you fuckers voted for that and not the boredoms? gahhh

haha Torn Curtain is so the best track. yeah only I think that

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Van der Graaf Generator still in with a shout of a top 5 place then.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

btw black sabbath,deep purple ,iron maiden,ac/dc,metallica & guns n roses aren't going to chart now, are they?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

OK now I think it'll be

God Only Knows
I Feel Good
Be My Baby
I Feel Love
Satisfaction
Billie Jean
In My Life

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

looking forward to The Enid at number 1

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I think this spot for Marquee Moon is a bit too high... to say the least.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Van der Graaf Generator still in with a shout of a top 5 place then.

― absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:12 (12 seconds ago)

the total number of points I gave VdGG is quite funny

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

narrowly beating out Wishbone Ash

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Hah sorry didn't meant to use the word 'knack'... no idea what actual word I was looking for.

Black Sabbath is definitely placing

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

daavid I like your list now!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

@Algerian Goalkeeper: There are more than six places left!

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Brilliant song. Totally shocked to see it so high but it does deserve it.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

omg i want to vote for wishbone ash in something, anything

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm beginning to worry that sebadoh aren't gonna be on this list at all

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

massive lol

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Were Sebadoh nominated?

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

but maybe Black Sabbath were negatively affected by split voting.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Algerian Goalie, I gave big votes to a couple of Sabbath tracks but I think I was just pissing in the wind.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxxpost

Will start a best bands of the 20th century that rhyme with Gishbone Bash poll next week.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Polls been great, only a couple of songs I haven't liked actually, but if Sabbath don't make it, then i'd find it very bizarre.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

come on, more surprises. surprises are the only way to keep this top 10 business interesting.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

sad that "Chameleon" apparently didn't make the list

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - I might have voted for Spoiled...no wait, I wouldn't have.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

NV id totally vote in that poll

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, wait, i lied. i cut it "marquee moon" the last minute in favor of "see no evil", then cut that too. thank god, and fuck you all for not voting "youth of america" instead. THAT i would love to have seen finish at #8.

would like to think this poll had another flamingos or althea & donna in it...

and i spent a bunch of points on the boriginal and it probably finished at like 524 or something

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

AG you'd probably be depressed when ILM makes the cocteau twins sweep that poll's top 10

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Barclay James Harvest, Are They Better Than Irving Berlin? 5 new answers

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

there's probably some obscure artsy postpunk band called Lishbone Mash that will sweep it

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Which Sabbath song might have garnered the most votes tho? 'Supernaut'? 'Paranoid'? I find it strange they haven't appeared at all in the top 100 so far. Always think of them as one of ILM's token bands.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

if 'paranoid' is the sabbath song that pops up now, then i hope sabbath don't appear at all. that's like the sabbath song for non-sabbath fans.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

My first time hearing 'Marquee Moon'. It was alright.

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

and i spent a bunch of points on the boriginal and it probably finished at like 524 or something

― phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:16 (30 seconds ago)

it was my number 7, thought it fitting :(

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i nommed 'into the void' and by rights, that's the tune that should've garnered the most points. 'supernaut' is more than acceptable though.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

07. MICHAEL JACKSON "Billie Jean" (1982) [2,604 points, 24 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoYL30RvC0A

(I chose this version specifically because I never tire of hearing the audience lose their shit when the moonwalk comes.)

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Shame that Fishbone/Clash collaboration never materialised.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"Zero the Hero" is the Sabbath fan pick.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ one of the greatest moments of live American television

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Good one but Beat It is better.

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i would be very surprised if boriginal didn't rank in the 1000s.

ok michael jackson, you've done your dash. now kindly exit the building.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember watching that live and basically feeling like history was unfolding before my eyes

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

if their s/t song had been nominated I'd have voted for it. I ended up voting for "Paranoid" as a lukewarm substitute but it wasn't high on my list.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

All the Off the Wall singles are better but I'd take it over most of what's above it I'm guessing.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Supernaut was 2nd in the metal poll behind Rainbow - Stargazer (which I assume wont place here)
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=ILM-Alltime-Metal-Poll&query=Track+Winners

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, wonder if it cracked the golden top 1500?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

btw total number of points I gave VdGG = 1206

:D

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

GOOD WORK SIR

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Love that clip, but still maintain "I Want You Back" is MJ's highpoint.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Metal fans didn't really seem to vote much in this poll, or they didn't vote for metal if they did

Satantango! (Matt #2), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath too. I think Sabbath got vote split something fierce.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

really, the most mind-boggling, impressive thing about "This Is It" is that even with all of the surgery and starving himself and narcotic use, dude still sounded almost exactly like this and could still MOVE, and he was over 50

Michael Jackson was sort of superhuman

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Television: bleah.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Good song but it's no The Lady In My Life.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

LJ, you'll be pleased to know i voted 'the sleepwalkers' 77th.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Television : YEAH

Satantango! (Matt #2), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd like to see a list of where each of the sabbath tracks ended up in the voting

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

You will.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The Sleepwalkers was my second-lowest VdGG vote and it still came 65th :P

If 'The Undercover Man' had been nominated I'd have voted for every single track on an album, which I'm sure isn't right or proper

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

lol at the indie boys ignoring Michael Jackson

welcome to my life circa 1983, folks

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't get behind an ILM poll that features the Smiths 3 times but leaves out Billie Holiday, Black Sabbath and Can.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

My Sabbath vote fell victim to the split as well, but I echo crüt that if the s/t song was nommed that would have been the one.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Billie Jean will surely be the most recent song in the top ten. I didn't vote for it but you really can't fault that song.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i've heard "billie jean" too many times to really find it that enjoyable anymore, but that Motown performance is just breathtaking.

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

actually I guess it should be the metal boys, not indie boys

but whatever, Michael Jackson > Black Sabbath, now and forever

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

agreed tbh

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Totally forgot to vote for any Michael Jackson - would've gone with 'I Want You Back' probably.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

The Sleepwalkers was my second-lowest VdGG vote and it still came 65th :P

no wait this is wrong

it came 36th, giving it 65x2 points

ha

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Michael Jackson > Black Sabbath, now and forever

OTMFM

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

----------------------------------------------------
I hate everyone that has said "TOO LOW" or "TOO HIGH"
get over yourself people

the whole list is messed up imo
you don't have to point out when it's only slightly messed up for you

how would you all feel if everyone said "too high", "too low" or "shouldn't of placed" after every track?
IT WOULD GET ANNOYING AFTER A WHILE
----------------------------------------------------

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

------------
you all suck
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ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

lol, CaptainLorax has never read one of these polls before

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO HIGH/LOW was mostly ironic I think.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm in the Beat It > Billie Jean camp. One is about alienation and being exiled by your peers, the other is about bad relationship with a groupie.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Sabbath were innovators, but Michael Jackson was an entertainer in italics.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the polls, I don't like the pollsters

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

they don't like you either

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

don't hate the player hate the game

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

You don't like me?

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Even after I held open the voting an extra SIX HOURS for you to get your ballot in?

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

the best Thriller single is "You Wanna Be Startin' Something" but we're talking about a spectrum where the worst song is "The Girl Is Mine", so it's not like all of them aren't stone-cold classics in and of themselves

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO PIOUS

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

06. GLEN CAMPBELL "Wichita Lineman" (1968) [2,687 points, 28 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTfwcLdP5Xk

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

(okay maybe "The Girl Is Mine" isn't a stone-cold classic, but all of the other singles are)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I had NO IDEA people rated this song so highly.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

(lool Moka)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

OH YEAH! Epic awesomeness! ~swoon~

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

!

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

would have probably been my #1 if i remembered to vote

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

ditto

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

what the

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I appreciate the WTFness of this choice however

― absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:10 (17 minutes ago)

television in a ilx poll isn't remotely wtf

<3 marquee moon

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Amazing song.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

xppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

I like you Johnny for doing all the work etc.

I don't like elitist commentary every other page.

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice work here so far ppl, but I'm growing concerned about "Strange Fruit" placing. O_o if it doesn't.
At least my #1 made the cut!
but still, no SF no cred.

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think i've heard this b4

thought it wd be about american football

it's good

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, I forgot that was what that song was. I approve. I think I always just called it "I am a Lineman for the County."

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I would have voted for it if I had known what it was.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The Sleepwalkers was my second-lowest VdGG vote and it still came 65th :P

― gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, December 3, 2010 12:23 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark

your tales of vdgg vote splurging are funny in relation to earlier bitchings about the anglo art rock & post-punk voting bloc. cuz if this board were packed with prog heads and the top 50 were all yes & univers zero, such behavior would seem intolerable. as things stand, it brightens my day.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Still hope for Univers Zero

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Glen Campbell will kick all y'alls asses. I'm just glad By The Time I Get To Phoenix and Galveston didn't split the vote.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

it has some neat melodic twists for a cheesy 60s stringsnallpopsong

'Young Girl' is still miles better obv

contenderizer I splurged thusly in full knowledge that it was an act of futility - my bitchings weren't about ALL anglo art rock, they were about soft Anglo art rock, i.e. not very arty but popular stuff

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, "Wichita Lineman"! I remember when ILM had a 1960s poll and it got in the top 10 or something, and I was like "Wtf is this song, I've never head about it?", and then I listened to it and I was like "OMG, how come I haven't heard this before?!!". Love at first hear. Such a huge yet economic song, there's so much emotion and truth in between the simple lines.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

thought it wd be about american football

Yeah, the title is very disorienting to me. "Wichita Lineman" just seems so asbtract.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

oh lorax, nobody is being elitist, we just hate other people's shitty awful taste.

Is Campbell's the "best" verzh of "Wichita Lineman"? Dunno. This feels like a vote for a classic song above and beyond the performance.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twbbSxWolBc

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i like "witchita lineman", but never considered voting for it. different strokes (RIP, little buddy).

plus i wasn't pointing the finger of those bitchings at you specifically, LJ. i did plenty of it myself!

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

The first time I heard it was on an AM gold station that was coming in kinda poorly as I was driving home in the rain from the country. IMO, the best possible introduction to it one could hope for.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I believe it.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

When I was younger I hated 'Wichita Lineman' the string arrangements and his voice sounded increadibly cheesy to my ears... they still sound cheesy to be honest but stripped down the basics it's a really great song.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Is Campbell's the "best" verzh of "Wichita Lineman"? Dunno. This feels like a vote for a classic song above and beyond the performance.

I've heard a couple of other versions of it (Cash and someone else), but the arrangements and orcestration in those was nowhere near the genius of Campbell's version.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Is nobody gonna pick up my Glen Campbell vs Gary Puckett throwdown?

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I am glad someone else uses the term "AM Gold"!

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

05. BILLIE HOLIDAY "Strange Fruit" (1939) [2,699 points, 24 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXdnD39GYVU

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

PERFECT

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Billie Jean will surely be the most recent song in the top ten

Unfinished Sympathy must be in with a shout.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

hawtt

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Great, I was not expecting it to make it at this point.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Think "The Straight Life" or "Dreams of the Everyday Housewife" are my fave tracks on Wichita Lineman btw

Tuomas I think The Meters verzh of "Wichita" will poke your buttons if you haven't heard it.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Although my Billie Holiday votes went for 'gloomy sunday' and 'when you're smiling'. I was beginning to regret not voting for this one. Glad it made it so far.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

"Strange Fruit" is almost out of place in this poll in terms of the massive gravity of it beyond lol pop songs.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

great jorb ilx!

jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Amazing song, happy it placed so high.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

re: sabbath. i love them, but didn't vote for a single song. i considered "sabbath bloody sabbath", "paranoid" and "supernaut", but found reason to cut them all. i probably would have thrown some points to "children of the grave" or "fairies wear boots" if anyone had nominated them.

feel kinda bad about this, but no more than the fact that i didn't get a chance to vote for "the number of the beast" or "sanitarium". which i would have, in a heartbeat.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for "Gloomy Sunday", but I'm glad Billie got this high, she certainly deserves it. My only problem with "Strange Fruit" is that on a compositional level it isn't quite as good as on the lyrical one. Though Billie's interpretation is of course brilliant.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

a POPLAR choice.

YESSSSS

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

is this the only pre-1950's song in the poll?

such an amazing song.

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Think "The Straight Life" or "Dreams of the Everyday Housewife" are my fave tracks on Wichita Lineman btw

Reason To Believe is epic too.

I Feel Love is going to win this, isn't it?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Not my favorite Billie Holiday song, but I voted for it, and it is iconic and weighty, for sure.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yep, anyone who jumps in doubting the relevance and weight of this song and performance is gravely misguided.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

thank you ILX. billie holiday helps make up for a lot.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

a POPLAR choice.

this is not really so funny

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

JohnnyFever - sorry I had a typo earlier
I like the polls, I don't like the pollers (not pollsters)

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for "Gloomy Sunday", but I'm glad Billie got this high, she certainly deserves it. My only problem with "Strange Fruit" is that on a compositional level it isn't quite as good as on the lyrical one. Though Billie's interpretation is of course brilliant.

― Tuomas

One of the first times I agree with you on this poll Tuomas, this song wouldn't be anywhere as immense if it weren't for her, lyrics aside the composition is a bit meh.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

is this the only pre-1950's song in the poll?

Clair de Lune ranked back in the 80s. So that's two. TWO SONGS FROM BEFORE 1950!!

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ok that's good but it doesn't need a 1-minute intro, ditch the horns at the start and leave it to the piano imo

'how I would edit ILX's 5th favourite track of the 20th century'

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

this is not really so funny

for real

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Tuomas I think The Meters verzh of "Wichita" will poke your buttons if you haven't heard it.

Oh yeah, that's the other version I've heard. I love The Meters a lot (why didn't I nominate "Hey Pocky A-Way" in this poll?!), but IMO "Wichita Lineman" isn't a song that matches their strengths.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Hang on, is there a different version of "Strange Fruit" where the composition isn't awesome and dramatic and sends tingles down your back that I've missed?

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe it's worth doing a 1900-1950s poll sometime in the future.

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

is this the only pre-1950's song in the poll?

Clair de Lune ranked back in the 80s. So that's two. TWO SONGS FROM BEFORE 1950!!

― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever)

Which begs for a second poll comprised of only pre-50's songs.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost: lol

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Hang on, is there a different version of "Strange Fruit" where the composition isn't awesome and dramatic and sends tingles down your back that I've missed?

no

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I vv much love #4...

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

04. THE RONETTES "Be My Baby" (1963) [2,721 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ceRov1AUg

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I go back to Wichita Lineman every couple years, thinking I'll get it, it'll finally hit me. Guess I'll wait another couple years now.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

?!

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought I had grown out of musical protectionism but watching ppl blithely yammering on about butchering one of the greatest songs ever recorded is making my blood boil

xxxp: hawtt

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

really tho, forget the lyrical content and the tune still does these deep twisty things that let Holiday dazzle you with her voice. it is an absolute performer's song.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, ok I can get behind this one as well.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

"Be My Baby" is fine but I figure it's a vote for the sound not that one track.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, 'be my baby' is pretty blissful.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

haha Dan I am saying it is a fantastic song! Just doesn't need the first 30 seconds imo - much more affecting when the piano comes in and spins its web and then Billie tells her tale

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Dusty Springfield's best moments >>> Be My Baby obv

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't see this coming, but I like it.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Nina SImone version of 'Strange Fruit' is also A++++

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Dusty Springfield's best moments >>> Be My Baby obv

urge to kill... rising...

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Hang on, is there a different version of "Strange Fruit" where the composition isn't awesome and dramatic and sends tingles down your back that I've missed?

― absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:47 (3 minutes ago)

dunno, but i'd guess a few of these gave it a try (ub40?)

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

urge to kill... rising...

let's talk about eddie money's version

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Top 3:

Gimme SHelter
I Feel Love
I Am A Cider Drinker

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Just listened to a couple of "Wichita Lineman" covers, there's a pretty good one by Dennis Brown.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

DJP & noodle OTM, "strange fruit" isn't just lyrics and performance, it's a gorgeous composition on every level

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

would like to hear the Cocteaus' version

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

"Tubular Bells" for #1

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

This top five list is shaping up nicely! Glad to see the usual rock crit catnip bumped in favor of some actual good tunes.

Darin, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

oh I've heard Dennis Brown's "Wichita Lineman", it's great!

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

DNW to hear the tori amos version

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

dark was the night for #2

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

YAY for Marquee Moon and Good Vibrations

I get why people love Wichita Lineman but it involuntarily makes me WTF whenever it shows up in these kinds of lists.

Be My Baby, perfect
Strange Fruit, perfect

I may have voted for every top 10 track except Wichita.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

DEAD. INSIDE.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

In The Air Tonight for #1

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

C'mon baby, daddy needs some Company B up in this joint

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

really hope "I Feel Love" is in the top 3

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

haha spectrist OTM

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Do not want to hear "Be My Baby" by Jason Donovan.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

"Be My Baby" is fine but I figure it's a vote for the sound not that one track.

― absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:51 (2 minutes ago)

dunno but it's poignant as hell from apparently trite elements....amazing song

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i love "be my baby", but it feels a bit anticlimactic at this point. liking the skew towards pre-70s stuff in the top 10, though.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's go Surfin bird

billstevejim, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

don't get me wrong i love it but wouldn't pick that one track as the stand-out Spector thing

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Mourning the Shaggs :(

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

really hope "I Feel Love" is in the top 3

Don't worry, I Feel Love has won every single ILM poll ever.

Darin, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

if #3 is not "Tarzan Boy" by Baltimora or "Let's Go All The Way" by Sly Fox, I am holding you all personally accountable

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Be My Baby love is partly about the production, but mostly about Ronnie's voice. ZOMG

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

really hope "I Feel Love" is in the top 3

No way it would be outside the top 125, so it has to be. I'm just hoping it'll be the actual #1 so that Beatles or Beach Boys won't win this. I don't hate either of those groups, but having them win would be the boringest thing ever.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

gimme the other gimme the other

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

a teeny bit disenchanted with the top 10 but it could have been so, so much worse

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lol I nominated Tarzan Boy, but didn't vote for it in the end.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxp plus Be My Baby isn't gender specific! I love it for that!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Be My Baby love is partly about the production, but mostly about Ronnie's voice. ZOMG

OTM

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

1030 Baltimora - Tarzan Boy 272 3 0

I have no idea what this is.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

a teeny bit disenchanted with the top 10 but it could have been so, so much worse

― gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:58 (6 seconds ago)

yeah windowlicker could've placed already

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG SENDALAI U R IN FOR A TRAET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r0n9Dv6XnY

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

WOO-OH WOAH-OH-OHHHH-OH OH-AH-OH-UH

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

weird to hear the stereo version of Be My Baby though. Don't like it.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

forgot to vote for afx tbh

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

IT'S A TRAP seandalai

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

The Beatles don't really have a chance anymore do they? I can't think of any of their nominated songs that would rank higher than 'day in the life' or 'strawberry fields' (actually thought day in the life was their most popular one in this sort of polls above strawberry fields so I might be wrong)

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

always excellent to hear any fidelity version of Tarzan Boy

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

someone predict 1-3

if u get it right u win alltime ilx plaudits

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

hey jude?

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh I think I've heard this - would totally have voted if I'd known.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

god only knows
anarchy in the uk
i feel love

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Where pray tell is Heart of Glass

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

3. I AM A ZOIDER DRINKER - WURZELS
2. PULSE DEMON - MERZBOW
1. SOME SHIT BY THE BEATLES

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

not anarchy

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I unironically and whole-heartedly love "Tarzan Boy"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for "I Saw Her Standing There" as my only Beatles vote.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

#1 will be Roundball Rock by john tesh

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

likewise xp to DJP

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

omg Tarzan Boy is RAD! way better than Be My Baby, you terrible rockists

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

god only knows
i feel love
windowlicker

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

although I am currently listening to "Tubular Bells" and I feel like the universe is about to divulge its secrets to me

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Would everybody who voted "Anarchy" put their hand up now so I can warm up my SB finger?

No irony, "Tarzan Boy" is fucking fantastic

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

3 - Gimme Shelter
2 - I Feel Love
1 - God Only KNows (Scrumpy & Western mix)

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I Feel Love and God Only Knows seem certain, but I can't think of what could be the third?

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Tarzan Boy is always a bring the house down number for karaoke

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8l5fthffiE

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i would be happy with:

3. astral weeks
2. you set the scene
1. song to the siren

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

(x-post)

What's Gimme Shelter?

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

3. By The TIme I Get To Phoenix
2. Galveston
1. Country Boy (You've Got Your Feet In LA)

kornrulez6969, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

3. God Only Knows
2. Satisfaction (I Can't Get No)
1. Baba O'Reilly

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks to Tarzan Boy I am laughing my head off here, despite being in the office at 9pm and putting off all the work I need to do to hang out on ILM.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Stairway to Heaven?

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nWEXG68-1M

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

'in dreams'?

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

3. Gimme Shelter
2. God Only Knows
1. I Feel Love

^^ BINGO

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Satisfaction is probably it.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

And there's a double-length album version!

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i like "Tarzan Boy" better than at least half the stuff on this list to be honest

ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

windowlicker or hey! bo diddley or johnny b. goode

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

HERE IS #3...it got more votes than any other track by a wide margin.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

omg Tarzan Boy is RAD! way better than Be My Baby, you terrible rockists

you massive herb, it is actually possible to love both of these songs

now if you will excuse me, I have some major headshaking to do in Tuomas's direction

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

03. DONNA SUMMER "I Feel Love" (1977) [2,912 points, 32 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFox61M_0Fw

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i like "Tarzan Boy" better than at least half the stuff on this list to be honest

― ciderpress, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (10 seconds ago)

QFT

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

so many good songs are not going to make it!

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Stairway to Heaven?

― skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:04 (19 seconds ago)

this is a civilized website, please

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

so many good songs DID make it!

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

SB for everyone who didn't vote for Tarzan Boy. Including me. I KNOW WHO WE ARE.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

crut got the three, wrong order imo

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Junior Murvin - "Solomon" just came up on my playlist, think it needs a top 3

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

awww, thought "i feel love" would be #1. too low

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

there are two songs better than "I Feel Love" btw but they won't be on this list

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

ha

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

With a few hours to go, I Feel Love was #1 by a single vote. Pity it didn't hang on imo. Highest of my votes to place.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I just realized Blue Suede Shoes, Hound Dog, Johnny B. Goode and Hey! Bo Diddley might not have a chance. Shame on you ILM.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Bah, "I Feel Love" should've won! I guess the last two are just gonna disappoint me.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

lol see, if people actually voted for what they LIKED rather than what they thought was IMPORTANT or "deserved representation", we could have had representation from Baltimora and everyone would have been a winner

strategic voting is for people who enjoy playing themselves

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I think everyone who voted for this just got it mixed up with Chase, the theme to Midnight Express, which is what they really meant to vote for. :P

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish all the Can fans got behind Future Days to put it #1 or #2

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh I bet I helped bump You Set The Scene over it haha

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Tuomas trolling all the way to no.1 - which will be Gimme Shelter

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

don't get me wrong i love it but wouldn't pick that one track as the stand-out Spector thing

feel like "be my baby" has less to do with phil spector at this point as with girl groups in general, with an alternate history of pop importance

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I Feel Love is totally rad btw, maybe ILX will have its uses after all :D

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

If Can had won this poll, I would've been too disgusted to ever post the results.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, this is seriously good shit! Have forgotten Be My Wichita 60's already ;)

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh I have always appreciated "MacArthur Park" more than "I Feel Love" because of the crazy lyrics

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

LJ wait until you hear the mentalist remixes

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't like the Donna Summer version of MacArthur Park!

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

one of the next two is definitely 'god only knows'. it's as simple as that. the other i'm hoping is less predictable.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually voted Love to Love You Baby, but really there were five straight years where Donna Summer was infallible.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

there's no 20 minutes "OW MY FACE HAS MELTED" remix of "MacArthur Park"

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

it's You Set The Scene. must be.

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Still hard to predict with any certainty the top 2 = good poll in my book

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet that they will both be artists/bands from the UK.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

If Can had won this poll, I would've been too disgusted to ever post the results.
― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever)

edit - I don't like the pollers and this pollster

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

windowlicker!

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

hoping Burger/Ink can still place

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I will be posting #1 and #2 simultaneously, so get ready...

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i first heard the donna summer 'macarthur park' in the barbershop and thought it was a joke. a brilliant, wonderful joke

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, I'm listening to Gimme Shelter now, I'd never heard it before. I don't really get why this should be among the two best songs of the 20th century, it isn't half as good as "Sympathy for the Devil". Just a basic 60s blues rock jam, there are tons like it.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

if u h8 gimme shelter being #1/2, there's a short italian american who talks very quickly to whom u shd address yr vitriol

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

shivering with anticipation

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe Spratley's Japs tbh

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Or I can only hope it would be a good choice to excuse the lack of significant electronic music in this poll.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I never get the extreme love for I Feel Love (and I don't remember hearing that song at all in the 70s or 80s or pretty much any other time), but I'm not saying bad things about it so no need to attack.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

windowlicker has to make it, I think

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

where is rockit

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

hurry it up I've been invited out for a drink

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Gimme Shelter is v good but I would never vote for it, it's nothing too far out of the ordinary imo - unlike You Set The Scene

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Dave & Ansell Collins ftw

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Gimme Shelter is that song from all the hippie documentaries?

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

was just watching a Soul Train last night, turned it on in the middle of them boogeying to "I Feel Love". Sensory overload among the song, the dances, the outfits, the hairstyles... (side note: saw the most awesome outfit ever created sported by Don Cornelius on another episode. Sateen pastel outfit with a cape, which I thought was just mildly awesome, til the camera panned down a lil and you could observe that he was wearing sateen SHORTS with it and knee high white boots.)

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Soul Train was one of America's greatest achievements

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

02. GEORGE MICHAEL "Freedom '90" (1990) [2,952 points, 26 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Csi9PEncI

01. STEVE MILLER BAND "Abracadabra" (1982) [3,052 points, 28 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH850qp85Zk

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

genuine lols

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I wanna reach out and grab ya.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

can't believe millions of people like "Gimme Shelter" it sounds like Hermannng's Herrmmmits

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Gah, I thought we agreeed no fake results?

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

terrible choices for fake 1/2

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

WTF?!?!?

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Top 2 backwards imo

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't have minded "Freedom" at #2, it's great!

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't remember agreeing to this.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's just leave it at that.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

and i just listened to "wichita lineman" for the first time in ages. i like it a LOT less than i thought i did. great lyrics, nice melancholy vibe, but it just gets overwhelmingly treacly about halfway through. i get where it's coming from, but can't really feel it. i think it is a song voted for by people who spend a lot of time listening to grizzly bear. would love to have seen "tarzan boy"* or "tubular bells" place instead. or "jet boy jet girl" ffs.

* how in god's name did i forget about this song/video?!? kill me now for leaving it off my ballot please.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

(xpost to jon)

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

poll threads without fake results just aren't poll threads

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

crüt = hero

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure i like that 1-2 more than whatever is coming

mizzell, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link

"I don't remember agreeing to this" needs to be a meme

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

If only someone had posted Tarzan Boy in the campaigning thread.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

"jet boy jet girl" ffs.

YES YES YES YES why was this not nominated

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i fell for freedom

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

lol same

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

and i just listened to "wichita lineman" for the first time in ages. i like it a LOT less than i thought i did. great lyrics, nice melancholy vibe, but it just gets overwhelmingly treacly about halfway through. i get where it's coming from, but can't really feel it. i think it is a song voted for by people who spend a lot of time listening to grizzly bear. would love to have seen "tarzan boy"* or "tubular bells" place instead. or "jet boy jet girl" ffs.

this whole post is once again wholly in tune with my thoughts

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I should have made #2 "god only knows"

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

crut = <3 btw

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

fyi the horns at 3:31 of this are why Donna's "MacArthur Park" is so phenomenal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcTyEhIdyfA&feature=related

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

jet boy jet girl wasn't even nominated was it? Would have definitely voted for that one or the french version gladly.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

(beyond obv Donna sounding fucking awesome, of course)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

if jf is posting both at the same time, #1 is god only know

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

s

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Unless 1 and 2 are James Brown and Black Sabbath I am going to be sorely disappointed in this gathering of supposed music lovers.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z0-m31oh2w

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Unless 1 and 2 are The Cure and Arvo Paert I am going to be sorely disappointed in this gathering of supposed music lovers.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's James Brown and Steely Dan.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

02. THE ROLLING STONES "Gimme Shelter" (1969) [3,100 points, 26 votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcCTKtyzaXc

01. THE BEACH BOYS "God Only Knows" (1966) [3,286 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOMyS78o5YI

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

banking on Junior Murvin and Charles Ives

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Unless 1 and 2 are The Cure and Arvo Paert I am going to be sorely disappointed in this gathering of supposed music lovers.

I voted

oh boring

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

#2 The Cure - A Forest
#1 The Shagss - My Pal Foot Foot

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

oops lemme take that back

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (gimme shelter)

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

woot to the Stones, eh to the Beach Boys

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO LOW

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

ah no can't believe to very popular songs won

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

ehhh

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

woot to the Beach Boys, eh to the Stones

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

also two very popular songs won

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

cant argue with those 2 songs

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

01. THE SHAGGS "My Pal Foot Foot" (1969) [3,301 points, 30 votes][2 first place votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9UT2zF8c8

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

"God Only Knows" is a nice song but I like so many other Beach Boys songs more. Tender ballads aren't my thing!

"Gimme Shelter" is god-like.

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, I didn't honestly expect Sabbath and James Brown to be 1 and 2, but to not have James Fucking Brown ANYWHERE in the Top 125 songs of the last century is so crazy to me. Incomprehensible.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

what a moment

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

no chuck berry is ridic

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Boring results.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

01. THE SHAGGS "My Pal Foot Foot" (1969) [3,301 points, 30 votes][2 first place votes]

YES!

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

croot is too young to appreciate tender ballads

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

congrats ILM for proving Geir's thesis on enduring music

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

lalo schifrin wuz robbed

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

if i was crying
in the van, with my friend
it was for freedom '90

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

can't argue with that really. i mean, 'gimme shelter' isn't 'dead flowers', but it's one of the next best things.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

P.S. Thanks for doing this guys. Also thanks for making it end on a Friday afternoon where the diversion is really appreciated.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

mookieproof, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

where did 'you set the scene' place?

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes. Thx Johnny Fever and seandalai

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

at least donna got the most votes by quite a considerable margin - 6 more than #1 or #2.

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I *do* love Gimme Shelter, listening to it. Actually the first time I heard it I had no idea what it was and had to ask. The only time the Stones have ever come remotely close to making me do that.

Well done ILX for making the second-best song called God Only Knows its number 1

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, good work Johnny & seandali.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks organizers

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

no black sabbath & no james brown & no parliament = staggering.

good poll tho johnny & seandalai, only a couple of songs I don't like.
thanks!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

agreed with the thanks!

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Also yeah, cheers folks! :) Don't mind me and my occasional contrariness!

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

seandalai I mean.

Gavin in Leeds, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah seriously this the wettest, twee-est Beach Boys song ever

it makes "I Get Around" seem like death metal

(congrats on running this poll guys, good job)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

can we vote on moka being right about #1 instead?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, thanks for doing this!

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Quite surprised no Cure placed tbh.

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

"I Get Around" is my favorite beach boys song!

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

THANK YOU JOHNNY FEVER!

and all y'all, even if you don't like the boredoms near enough

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I am way more into this song if we're talking about the Beach Boys in sensitive crooning mode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usuu-xu75dI

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't get Gimme Shelter at all but obviously a lot of ILMers do. "God Only Knows" is great but I prefer both the other Beach Boys tracks that have appeared (also prefer a bunch of other Beach Boys tracks).

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

yes! massive thanks to the poll runners, Johnny and Seandalai! This was loads of fun!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah seriously this the wettest, twee-est Beach Boys song ever

you need to hear 'beach boys love you' (or I guess, don't need to)

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Should I post the full list on another thread?

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for giving me the extension and special thanks for all the work seandali did!

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

OK, Gimme Shelter goes on a bit too long without doing much, maybe it isn't as good as that electrifying first minute and a half makes it out to be

Well done ILX for making the second-best song called God Only Knows its number 1

I'm honouring this btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcAEiGTEWpk

yeah that comment is me :D

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

This has been a really good list with a worthy winner. Thanks to Johnny Fever and seandalai for putting this together.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Great job! A+++ would vote again.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, then its easy to access in future
xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

WOuld like to nom Johnny & Sean for the 2010 poll tbh.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

In My Room is great but it doesn't hold a candle to this for songs about good locations to be depressed in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP8OVzVzR6o&feature=related

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for a quick, well run poll. I couldn't even keep up.

only voted for 'strange fruit,' 'the message,' and 'satisfaction' from the top 10.

I've tried to get into Television and the Beach Boys, but could never.

elis regina singing "aguas de marco," like Ignition Remix, makes fucking happy against my will.

I guess those are my favorite songs then.

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I just love the vocal arrangement on "In My Room" tbh

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I am a massive Beach Boys fanboy but voted for Good Vibrations and Don't Worry Baby over God Only Knows. not that God Only Knows isn't great but the vulnerability on DWB is IMO the key part of their early catalog aside from the surfing, girls and car.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah good rundown

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Quite surprised no Cure placed tbh.

― babel on (pandemic), Friday, December 3, 2010 1:24 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark

^ this. would happily sub out any of the joy div/new order/smiths on this list (no surprise there) for "fire in cairo" or "close to me"

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep, Shaggs for #1. Eric B & Rakim #2. It's not so much to ask, ILM.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

no windowlicker but i forgive u all for being wrong

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

skip otm

I'm also a massive beach boys fanboy and this is my 2nd least favorite song on pet sounds

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

still glad they won tho

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

would happily sub out any of the joy div/new order/smiths on this list (no surprise there) for "fire in cairo" or "close to me"

:D

but yeah the Cure I voted for = The Figurehead, A Forest, All Cats Are Grey

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Look Skip James should have won so balls to the lot of you but good work pollganizers.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

We deniers can keep chatting among ourselves as if The Shaggs took first to really confuse emil.y

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Here's the full voting results...see where the GOOD songs actually placed ;)

http://mondosalvo.com/TOP20th.htm

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

skip otm

I'm also a massive beach boys fanboy and this is my 2nd least favorite song on pet sounds

― iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:28 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

still glad they won tho

― iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:29 (43 seconds ago) Bookmark

says it all about ilx' depraved fanboyism

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

he may be a cunt, but he's our cunt

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

gimme shelter - really ilm?

really?

over like a 1000 awesome songs?

hell over like a 100 awesome stones songs?

rest of the 10 is great.

;_; at no planet rock, wtf is rong with you ppl. also no james brown?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

ILM 20th century tracks poll: your ballot

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

god only knows is the lee cattermole of pop

Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

another i'd have love to have seen mixed in with the 80s brit stuff = yazoo - "only you". i think that's sort of my "wichita lineman".

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

"Sex Machine" was at #169... so low. Vote splitting?

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for posting that, JF - I'll post the list of highest-scoring artists and highest-scoring voters later on.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

god only knows is the lee cattermole of pop

― Ectothiorhodospira shaposhnikovii (nakhchivan), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:31 (8 seconds ago) Bookmark

???

surely the iniesta and xavi of pop.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

126-200 is quite a mix of sublime and WTF.

skip, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The highest Elvis track was #196, and it was "Suspicious Minds". oh ilmpaws

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

and "gimme shelter" is massive, towering, without blemish. sounded like all holy hell when i was a kid and still gives me chills in its final moments. will not hear a word said against it.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Gawd, so many of my votes missed by a whisker:

130 The Byrds - Eight Miles High
131 Afrika Bambaataa - Planet Rock
136 Wu Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck
140 Art Ensemble of Chicago - Theme de yoyo
147 Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy

etc

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

wau, as brutal as y'all were to The Cure, you were even worse to poor Siouxsie

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

515 Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Master Plan

I can't believe only 4 people besides me voted for this! I thought it was a certain lock for the top 100.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

01. ANIMAL COLLECTIVE "My Girls" (2009) [5,528 points, 42 votes, 10 first place votes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zol2MJf6XNE

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Wronf century.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

at least I still like that AC song

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Where the rightful #1 and #2 ended up:

189 Eric B and Rakim - Paid in Full
207 The Shaggs - My Pal Foot Foot

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

515 Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Master Plan

I can't believe only 4 people besides me voted for this! I thought it was a certain lock for the top 100.

you can't be serious

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

that would be like me going "Oh my God, I was certain 'All Cats Are Grey' was a lock for the top 100!"

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway, thanks Johnny Fever and seandalai. Nice work!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

the creator has a master plan is amazing tho

EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

515 Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Master Plan

I can't believe only 4 people besides me voted for this! I thought it was a certain lock for the top 100.

you can't be serious

I am, based on this thread I thought it'd get more love in this poll:

is Karma by Pharoah Sanders the best record ever?

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

132 Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action
133 Neu! - Hallogallo
139 Del Shannon - Runaway
175 Carl Orff - O Fortuna (Carmina Burana)
199 Simon and Garfunkel - The Sounds of Silence
204 Pere Ubu - Final Solution
207 The Shaggs - My Pal Foot Foot
208 Leadbelly - Goodnight Irene
215 Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five - White Lines

so near and yet

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

so based on a 5 year old conversation between no more than 5 ppl at any given time, you thought it was a dead lock?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

268 Love - You Set the Scene 825 6

o_O

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to understand how Tuomas' brain works, but then I quickly realize that I really don't actually want to understand.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Top 300 is mostly A to A+ imo.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

515 Pharoah Sanders - The Creator Has a Master Plan

I can't believe only 4 people besides me voted for this! I thought it was a certain lock for the top 100.

― Tuomas, Friday, December 3, 2010 1:36 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, no. i mean, i voted for it, it's fantastic, but i knew i was just making the gesture.

thing that's really killing me is that i put cab calloway's "st. james infirmary" in at number 4 on my ballot, and i really thought it had a shot! wound up at #486. fuckers.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Dan, you know wringing logic out of Tuomas is as likely as wringing it out of Geir, or Randy Quaid's wife.

I'm just glad I could cast my #1 for 4'33"

pixel farmer, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

elis regina singing "aguas de marco," like Ignition Remix, makes fucking happy against my will.

haven't gotten a chance to watch all the youtubes here, but that was the one that really made me giddy.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

understanding how tuomas' brain works involves first pretending like you don't understand how anyone else's brain works

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

okay now you guys are just being mean

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

just realised that "I Can't Get No Satisfaction" wasn't nommed at all. O.o

prolego, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I Think I'm Alone Now Galleria of Sadness:
1250 Ernie K. Doe - Mother-in-Law 200 (gospodin simmel)
1250 Les Rallizes Denudes - Night of the Assassins 200 (Spectrist)
1250 Soft Machine - Moon in June 200 (acoleuthic)
1250 Umm Kulthum - Robaeyat El Khayam 200 (rudipherous)
1258 Frank Zappa - Inca Roads 198
1258 Juliette Gréco - La valse brune 198
1258 Sleater-Kinney - One More Hour 198
1258 Sparks - For the Girl With Everything 198
1263 Fairouz - Nassam Alayna Al Hawa 196
1263 King Crimson - Exiles 196
1263 Love Inc. - R.E.S.P.E.C.T. 196
1263 Spratleys Japs - Fanny 196
1273 Cash Money Millionaires - Bling Bling 194
1273 Farid el Atrache - Ya Reitni Tir 194
1273 Gene Pitney - Something's Gotten Hold of My Heart 194
1273 Jorge Ben - Hermes Trismegisto Escreveu 194
1273 Pixies - River Euphrates 194
1273 The Jesus and Mary Chain - April Skies 194
1273 Wire - I Should Have Known Better 194
1283 Celia Cruz and Willie Colón - Usted Abuso 192
1283 Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra - Black and Tan Fantasy 192
1283 Fairport Convention - Farewell, Farewell 192
1283 Motorpsycho - The Golden Core 192
1283 The Lovin' Spoonful - Do You Believe in Magic 192
1283 The Underdogs - Love's Gone Bad 192
1283 The Wipers - Tragedy 192
1295 Dean Martin - Sway 190
1295 Dexys Midnight Runners - This Is What She's Like 190
1295 Motorpsycho - Mad Sun 190
1295 Planxty - The Blacksmith 190
1295 The Beach Boys - Sail on Sailor 190
1295 The Notorious B.I.G. - Who Shot Ya 190
1307 10cc - Don't Hang Up 188
1307 Bing Crosby - Pennies From Heaven 188
1307 Curtis Mayfield - The Makings of You 188
1307 Kaleidoscope - The Sky Children 188
1307 La Lupe - Amor Gitano 188
1307 Morrissey - Why Don't You Find Out for Yourself 188
1307 Tommy Johnson - Cool Drink of Water Blues 188
1318 Berlin - Take My Breath Away 186
1318 Dusty Springfield - Anyone Who Had a Heart 186
1318 Edith Piaf - Milord 186
1318 Eric Serra - The Big Blue Overture 186
1318 Hank Williams - My Bucket's Got a Hole in It 186
1318 Joan Armatrading - Water With the Wine 186
1318 Sly and The Family Stone - Sing a Simple Song 186
1318 The Fall - Bonkers in Phoenix 186
1330 Frank Loesser - Sit Down, You're Rocking the Boat 184
1330 Grupo Niche - Cielo de Tambores 184
1330 The Rolling Stones - Sister Morphine 184
1337 Eddie Palmieri - Puerto Rico 182
1337 Herbie Hancock - Rain Dance 182
1337 Jim O'Rourke - Ghost Ship in a Storm 182
1337 Uakti - Arrumaçao 182
1337 Van Der Graaf Generator - Childlike Faith in Childhood's End 182
1351 El Gran Combo - Don Goyo 180
1351 Orbital - Out There Somewhere? 180
1351 The Police - Message in a Bottle 180
1357 A Tribe Called Quest - Butter 178
1357 Alexander Skip Spence - Grey/Afro 178
1357 Backstreet Boys - Quit Playing Games (With My Heart) 178
1357 Blur - Country House 178
1357 Foetus - Sick Man 178
1357 Lorraine Ellison - Stay With Me 178
1357 Louis Armstrong - Black and Blue 178
1357 Pat Benatar - Love Is a Battlefield 178
1357 Ray Barretto - A Deeper Shade of Soul 178
1374 Chuck Berry - Let it Rock 176
1374 Howard Jones - Hide & Seek 176
1374 Simply Saucer - Illegal Bodies 176
1374 Sonic Youth - Stereo Sanctity 176
1374 T La Rock - It's Yours 176
1374 The Prodigy - Charly 176
1374 Van Der Graaf Generator - La Rossa 176
1381 Benny More - Barbaro del Ritmo 174
1381 Grace Jones - Demolition Man 174
1381 King Crimson - I Talk to the Wind 174
1381 Mahalia Jackson - Trouble of the World 174
1381 Orbital - The Box 174
1381 Perez Prado - Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White 174
1391 Cardiacs - Dog-Like Sparky 172
1391 Frankie Ruiz - Me Acostumbre 172
1391 Hardfloor - Once Again Back 172
1391 Kate Bush - Why Should I Love You 172
1391 Slowdive - Ballad of Sister Sue 172
1391 The Cure - Friday I'm in Love 172
1391 Underworld - Moaner 172
1402 Crowded House - Better Be Home Soon 170
1402 Elmore James - It Hurts Me Too 170
1402 Haris Alexiou - I Mangues Then Iparphoun Pia 170
1402 Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Of All the Things We've Made 170
1402 The Fall - Winter (Peel Session) 170

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

SO what was the highest placing song that was *NOT* from either Europe or the Americas?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Closest Black Sabbath track was:

220. Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (907, 9, 0)

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Probably:

409 Boredoms - 7→(Boriginal) 671 5 0

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually the Go-Betweens - Cattle & Cane wins the world music award

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

1283 Fairport Convention - Farewell, Farewell 192

That was one of mine!

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

there's quite a few of mine in there

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

TOO LOW

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

SO what was the highest placing song that was *NOT* from either Europe or the Americas?

No songs from Oceania in the Top 125?

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

SO what was the highest placing song that was *NOT* from either Europe or the Americas?

25 Althea and Donna - Uptown Top Ranking

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually surprisingly many songs I voted for ended up in the Top 20... I guess because "everyone" voted for them and everyone includes me....

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Althea and Donna is from the Americas, no? Jamaica=Americas. There was also some Bob Marley in there.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Ten of mine in that list :D

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

SO what was the highest placing song that was *NOT* from either Europe or the Americas?

Depends on who the hell is Australian?

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

1295 Dean Martin - Sway 190 1 0

I was the only one who voted for this?!

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

for the fuck of christ, would you quit acting surprised

pixel farmer, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

409 Boredoms - 7→(Boriginal) 671 5 0

yer all savages btw

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

[challops]

"oldies-sounding" songs that I voted for and think are better than practically all the "oldies-sounding" songs that placed:

Mickey and Sylvia — Love Is Strange
Simon and Garfunkel — America
Christopher Cross — Sailing
Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons — Can't Take My Eyes Off You
Smokey Robinson and The Miracles — Tears of a Clown
Donovan — Hurdy Gurdy Man
The Everly Brothers — Cathy's Clown
Tommy James and The Shondelles — I Think We're Alone Now
The Stylistics — You Make Me Feel Brand New
Harry Nilsson — Everybody's Talkin'

"jazz-sounding" oldies:

Otis Redding — I've Been Loving You Too Long
Ray Charles — Georgia on My Mind

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

1318 Edith Piaf - Milord 186 1 0

And this?

(x-post)

Sorry about that, it's just in my world these are such absolute classics that I could seriously never have imagined no one would give a single vote to them.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I like "Milord" but I honestly didn't have room for it, even with restricting myself to a one-per-artist ballot.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Revel in how unique you are, Tuomas.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Lots of people might have voted for those. But they are not on ILM.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Guys are you ready for my list of 9848 songs that I'm SHOCKED no one voted for?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

stone cold classics, each one

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

It is known from the smaller polls here (using the poll feature) that the lurkers often have a more "canonical" taste than the posters. So it would be interesting to hear how many lurkers voted here.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

xp
SORRY but you don't belong in the galleria of sadness

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

all the songs on this are better than every john coltrane, neil young, charles mingus, led zeppelin, pj harvey, jethro tull, guided by voices, wu tang clan, king crimson, and joni mitchell song

kamerad, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

there's lots of australian stuff in there (ac/dc, the saints, the church, nick cave, the go-betweens etc.) and i'm surprised some of it placed as well as it did.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Kamerad
You didn't vote either so you aren't allowed in the Galleria of Sadness as well

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

reposted from ballots thread: JF and seandalai, thanks for compiling (even though I still think polling an entire century was crazy/folly). I'm very interested in the proposed 1950s tracks poll.

pixel farmer, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually I, too, an surprised (surprised, not disappointed ;) ) that there is no James Brown. But I guess he fell in the split vote trap.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Guys are you ready for my list of 9848 songs that I'm SHOCKED no one voted for?

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), 4. joulukuuta 2010 0:06 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

stone cold classics, each one

You seriously don't think "Sway" and "Milord" are classic tunes?

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

there are more than 125 classic tunes, is the problem

peter in montreal, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, it's not like I'm saying "OMG no one voted for this underground techno tune I nommed!", I'm wondering why no one voted for two songs that rank among the best-known songs of the 20th century, both of which have been covered hundreds of times.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

tuomas didn't know you liked the stones! "sway" is classic all the way

EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Never heard them, so obv not. Heard some Edith and blech. But it's more that I seriously do think there's 9848 songs that I'd put on this list instead of ones that are, just am not suprised no one else here thinks so.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

btw the creator has a masterplan still rules peeps should listen to it now

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59c9h_pharoah-sanders-the-creator-has-a-m_music

EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6B4v1BqMhU

Granny, surely you have heard at least this one?

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

btw the creator has a masterplan still rules peeps should listen to it now

it absolutely rules but come on, it's not like more than 5 of the ppl who vote in these polls would even remember its existence, let alone put it on a ballot

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i just flicked madly through the 25-1 cos i'm all stressed on the home front etc. very surprised by the top 2, would have liked to see donna pip them both.

my gripe is that, from what i remember screaming jay hawkins aside, where the fuck was the old time rock n roll? or robert johnson?

i've come to think that the vote splitting noms stuff is a red herring. and i go back to post of viceroy's way back when, that people will put stuff on a long list that they think should be in there, but when it comes down to the final pruning they will stick with the stuff they have the most attachment to.

which is all a.ok with me, otherwise this would be a poll of ilx posturing as rock critics which is not what ilx is about, whatever it might try to prove otherwise.

i guess i'm just sad that, having started with rock n roll as a kid in the late 70s, there ain't a single elvis/little richard/jerry lee/chuck etcetc track in the top 125. wtf people :(

and the vote splitting (sorry i'll shut up now) - didn't seem to harm new order, prince, beach boys etc etc.

the canon has moved on down the road, and the 50s are just an oil stain on the tarmac.

xavi hoarder type (whatever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

at work now, Tuomas, so YouTube is blocked for me. What is it?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

the 50s weren't really in the canon 20 years ago either

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

tuomas what's your second fav stones song?? you seem like a moonlight mile guy to me

EIEIoOoOO (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

"Sway": I just can't imagine anyone living in the Western world for more than 20 years would have managed to miss it hearing it.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

That was to Granny.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Lots of people might have voted for those. But they are not on ILM.

irl lol @ this geir-to-tuomas zing

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll try to make a playlist for Galleria of Sadness songs later today
Englishers can help me and make a Spotify playlist

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

tuomas, that song isn't even particularly omnipresent in its home country, let alone THE ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link

and the youtube doesn't even work!

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

tuomas what's your second fav stones song?? you seem like a moonlight mile guy to me

I don't really know much about the Stones, I just have a emotional attachment to "Sympathy for the Devil", because in the pub where we always hung out when we were younger (which sadly doesn't exist anymore), me and my friend Martta used to always put it on the jukebox, and then proceed to sing the "whoo-ooh!" backing vocals throughout the whole song, to everyone else's irritation.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

The only Dean I can be certain I've heard is "That's amore" or whatever it's called. I must've missed hearing it on the radio amongst all the Frank Sinatra and Louis Armstrong.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty sure I hadn't heard 'sway' my entire life before it was in some car commercial recently

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Will check it out when I get home, though. Dad is a huge Dean fan, should prob borrow his cds.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

(x-post)

Eh? It the Youtube for me.

Maybe people don't the exact version of "Sway" as sung by Dean Martin, but "Sway" as a composition is very well known. Even Björk has covered it.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Think there was some wtf reaction from re: a song or 2 here you hadn't heard, Tuomas. Can't remember which song(s).

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, so we began some chatter about a 50s tracks/singles poll yesterday and carried it a little bit over into today, and I was thinking...I don't really want to run another one of these until next year (like, May at the earliest). But what about opening a rolling nominations thread now? Just let it roll through the end of May, giving us approximately six months to consume and evaluate as much 50s music as possible, time permitting. Then we end up with a well-rounded list and an informed electorate, and the voting can then begin.

In short, long window for nominations, brief window for voting. No pressure...you've got six months. Sound appealing?

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like there's a magical version of america in your head where dean martin and bjork music is played everywhere

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Selective list of recorded versions

Originals

* 1953 - Pablo Beltrán Y Su Orchestra (in Spanish)
* 1954 - Dean Martin, on Capitol Records, catalog number 2818, US 15, UK 6

English versions

"¿Quién será?" and "Sway" have been recorded dozens of times by many artists over the decades. This is merely a select list of popular recordings, not a comprehensive listing.

* 1954 - Eileen Barton, on Coral Records, catalog number 61185, backed with "When Mama Calls"
* 1959 - Rosemary Clooney and Perez Prado, from A Touch of Tabasco
* 1960 - Bobby Rydell, Capitol Recording Studios, NYC
* 1961 - Ben E. King, from Spanish Harlem
* 1963 - Cliff Richard, from When In Spain
* 1963 - Julie London, from Latin in a Satin Mood
* 1998 - Anita Kelsey, from the movie Dark City
* 1999 - Shaft, titled "(Mucho Mambo) Sway"
* 2003 - Michael Bublé, from his self-titled album Michael Bublé
* 2003 - Peter Cincotti, from his self-titled album Peter Cincotti
* 2004 - Pussycat Dolls, from the film Shall We Dance?
* 2007 - Puppini Sisters,Betcha Bottom Dollar
* 2008 - Fady Maalouf, Lebanese-German singer in his album Blessed
* 2009 - Haifa Wehbe, a Lebanese pop star
* 2010 - Paul Byrom of Celtic Thunder, Irish folk gan roup

Live renditions during song competitions

* 2007 - Melinda Doolittle on American Idol
* 2009 - Joe McElderry in UK The X Factor

Language versions

The song has been translated and covered in several languages. Here is a selective listing of language versions

* 1954 - Olavi Virta, titled "Keinu kanssani" (in Finnish)
* 1959 - The Peanuts, titled Quién Será (キエンセラ?) (in Japanese)
* 1968 - Teresa Teng, titled "盼望" (in Mandarin)
* 1973 - Sten & Stanley, titled "Äntligen" (in Swedish)
* 1976 - Ajda Pekkan, from "Kim Ne Derse Desin" (in Turkish)
* 1990 - Bjork in album Gling-Gló, as "Í dansi með þér" (in Icelandic)
* 1999 - Götz Alsmann, titled "Zuckersüß" (in German)
* 1999 - Komár László in album Mambó Lackó, as "Mexikói Karnevál" (in Hungarian)
* 2000 - Athena - Macera, from "Tam Zamanı Şimdi" (in Turkish)
* 2002 - Pedro Fernandez, ¿Quien será? (in Spanish)
* 2004 - Arielle Dombasle, titled "Quién Será (Sway)" (in Spanish)
* 2005 - Aaron Kwok, titled "飛" ("Sway") (in Cantonese)
* 2005 - Nguyễn Hưng in album Dạ Vũ, as "Ai Sẽ Là Em" (in Vietnamese)
* 2005 - Walid Soroor, titled "Yar Nazanin" (in Persian)
* 2006 - Anjelika Varum, titled "Румба" ("Rumba") (in Russian)
* 2007 - Rula Zaki (an Egyptian singer), titled "قلبي دق" ("Albi Dak") (in Arabic)
* 2010 - Rula Zaki, in the album "Rula" (in Arabic)
* 2010 - Mohsen Namjoo, in the song (دور ایرانو خط بکش) ("Dowr-e Iran-o Khat Bekesh") in Persian).

This should tell you how popular it is.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

there are 3000 cover versions of 'yesterday' and imagine there are still plenty of people who live in the western world and have never heard it, though we'd need a scientific test or something to find out

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

BRING ON THE FIFTIES ILM

I am ready. Just say no to poll burnout.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

*and I imagine there xp

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

231 The Associates - Party Fears Two 899
257 The Magnetic Fields - 100,000 Fireflies 844

Nice to see these getting 7 votes each, including a 1st place for the former. I nommed them knowing they weren't Top 100 contenders but felt sure of at least a little beneath-the-radar support.

FWIW, I had "Moon In June" on my ballot until the very last cut. It very nearly had 2 votes!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Which songs in the list where you unfamiliar with, Tuomas? Find that sort of thing fascinating.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks Johnny Fever and seandalai! Great poll!

daavid, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm wondering why no one voted for two songs that rank among the best-known songs of the 20th century, both of which have been covered hundreds of times.

You mean, "Yesterday" and "Tom Dooley"?

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

01. 14 ICED BEARS "Come Get Me" (1990) [3,301 points, 30 votes][2 first place votes]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zs8pHG9qFM

Ian Riese-Moran (rip van wanko), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

can't wait for the 2001 - 2010 decade poll

I have an early frontrunner for you all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzsFJolrYuI

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

We've already kind of done that, in two pieces...five years apart.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

well we have to do another poll so I can nominate Tea Bag Boyz

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha! On a slightly different sort of poll I would have definitely given points to that 14 Iced Bears. Along with, say, the Primitives' "Really Stupid".

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes please do DJP just so I can go TOO HIGH, NO TOO LOW AH OK RIGHT THERE THAT'S PERFECT

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

perfect

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Amazing, amazing work Johnny & Sean, thank you so much. Best fun I could possibly've had this week. Thanks a million. Sorry I wasn't able to keep up and pitch in, but I wanted to make sure I heard it all in order. Was worth it.

Fabulous to see a poll that genuinely got better as it got lower too, it was condensed solid gold by the end. No arguments from me whatsoever.

You didn't use my clip for 'Gimme Shelter' though :(

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't forget about that, but in the end I thought I should put up the full recognizable track.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks Johnny Fever and seandalai! Great poll!

― daavid, Friday, December 3, 2010 5:35 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Which songs in the list where you unfamiliar with, Tuomas? Find that sort of thing fascinating.

Before this poll I'd never knowingly heard these tunes (though I might've unknowingly heard them on the background in a party or something):

124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
71. THE ZOMBIES "Care of Cell 44" (1968) [1,355 points, 13 votes]
70. BIG STAR "Thirteen" (1972) [1,362 points, 14 votes]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]
64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender" (1978) [1,493 points, 15 votes]
49. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Sister Ray" (1968) [1,551 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]
39. THE UNDERTONES "Teenage Kicks" (1978) [1,703 points, 17 votes]
35. SONIC YOUTH "Teen Age Riot" (1988) [1,865 points, 21 votes]
29. THE MODERN LOVERS "Roadrunner" (1972) [1,957 points, 18 votes]
27. ? & THE MYSTERIANS "96 Tears" (1966) [1,987 points, 17 votes]
24. BIG STAR "September Gurls" (1974) [2,102 points, 21 votes]
15. THE SPECIALS "Ghost Town" (1981) [2,304 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]
12. DAVID BOWIE "Heroes" (1977) [2,444 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote]
08. TELEVISION "Marquee Moon" (1977) [2,587 points, 22 votes]
02. THE ROLLING STONES "Gimme Shelter" (1969) [3,100 points, 26 votes]

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I know "Sway" but it's mannered in a way that irritates the hell out of me. Sorry.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

The only two tracks in the top 125 that I didn't previously have at least a cursory knowledge of were the o.g. Doctor Who theme and "Surf's Up".

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

man, the backup singing on Gimme Shelter nearly ruins it

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

how does one exist on ILX for 7 years and NEVER hear the big My Bloody Valentine single

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

out of that list, Tuomas, the ones that surprise me are Fleetwood Mac, Bowie, and the Stones. All of which are way more prevalent in my lifetime than Sway or whatever that Edith Pilaf one was. Now I'm hungry.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like "96 Tears" is actually the weirdest thing to have not heard

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Obviously I know the big hits by Bowie and Stones, but AFAIK the ones I listed are not among them.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

did that never travel to europe?

iatee, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

man, the backup singing on Gimme Shelter nearly ruins it

o_O

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Sean, have you got that list of top acts then?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice to see these getting 7 votes each, including a 1st place for the former. I nommed them knowing they weren't Top 100 contenders but felt sure of at least a little beneath-the-radar support.

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, December 3, 2010 10:33 PM (21 minutes ago)

The first place votes for Party Fears 2 was from me. I had a feeling it would have a few supporters, I'm pretty happy with how well it did.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

don't get the "gallery of sadness," cuz you only got like 80s songs on there, lorax, and i count nearly 500 with just one vote (the gist, i think?):

10cc - Don't Hang Up
10cc - Somewhere in Hollywood
2Pac - So Many Tears
69 - Jam the Box
A Taste of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie
A Tribe Called Quest - Butter
Aaron Copland - Our Town
Aaron Neville - Hercules
Adonis - No Way Back
Afrika Bambaataa and Soulsonic Force - Zulu Nation Throwdown
Airto - Samba de Flora
Al Bowlly - You Couldn't Be Cuter
Al Casey and The KC-Ettes - Surfin' Hootenanny
Albert Ayler - Saints
Alexander Skip Spence - Grey/Afro
Alice Cooper - I'm Eighteen
Annette Peacock - I'm the One
Anton Webern - Six Pieces for Large Orchestra, Op.6: III. Mässig
Arab Strap - The Girls of Summer
Archer Prewitt - Good Man
Area - Luglio, Agosto, Settembre (Nero)
Armand Van Helden - U Don't Know Me
Arthur Alexander - Soldier of Love
Arthur Russell - Soon-to-Be Innocent Fun / Let's See
Arthur Russell - This Is How We Walk on the Moon
Artie Shaw Orchestra - Begin the Beguine
Arto Lindsay Trio - Imbue
Asmahan - Ahwa
Asmus Tietchens - Eisgang
Backstreet Boys - Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)
Barry White - Let the Music Play
Beck - Lazy Flies
Belle and Sebastian - Dirty Dream Number Two
Benny More - Barbaro del Ritmo
Berlin - Take My Breath Away
Bessie Smith - St. Louis Blues
Bill Fay - Time of the Last Persecution
Billie Holiday - Solitude
Billie Holiday and Lester Young - When You're Smiling
Bing Crosby - Blue Hawaii
Bing Crosby - Here Lies Love
Bing Crosby - Pennies From Heaven
Biz Markie - Pickin' Boogers
Black Box - Everybody Everybody
Blur - Country House
Blur - Starshaped
Blur - Yuko and Hiro
Bo Diddley - You Can't Judge a Book by Looking at its Cover
Bob Dylan - Blind Willie McTell
Bob Dylan - If You See Her, Say Hello
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys - San Antonio Rose
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys - You're Okay
Bobbie Gentry - Ode to Billie Joe
Bobby Please and The Pleasers - The Monster
Bonnie Raitt - Angel from Montgomery
Brian Eno - Discreet Music
Buck Owens - Act Naturally
Buddy Holly - Words of Love
Buffalo Springfield - For What it's Worth
Buffy Sainte-Marie - Poppies (For Mr. Allerton)
Bunny Berigan - I Can't Get Started
Busi Mhlongo - Yehlisan'Umoya Ma-Afrika
Busta Rhymes - Whoo-hah! Got You All in Check
Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band - Sure 'nuff 'n Yes I Do
Cardiacs - Dog-Like Sparky
Cash Money Millionaires - Bling Bling
Celia Cruz and Johnny Pacheco - El Paso del Mulo
Celia Cruz and Willie Colón - Usted Abuso
Charles Mingus - The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife Are Some Jive Ass Slippers
Charlie Parker - Ko-ko
Cheikha Rimitti - Jani el Hob
Chuck Berry - Let it Rock
Chumbawamba - Homophobia
Clinic - Porno
Clothilde - Saperlipopette
Cocteau Twins - Aikea Guinea
Colonel Abrams - Trapped
Commodores - The Zoo (Human Zoo)
Cornelius Cardew - Paragraph 1 of the Great Learning
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Long As I Can See the Light
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Ramble Tamble
Crooklyn Dodgers '95 - Return of the Crooklyn Dodgers
Crosby, Stills and Nash - Suite: Judy Blue Eyes
Crowded House - Better Be Home Soon
Curtis Mayfield - The Makings of You
Daft Punk - Phoenix
Dan Hartman - Vertigo / Relight My Fire
Darcy Clay - Jesus I Was Evil
Daryl Hall and John Oates - Method of Modern Love
Daryl Hall and John Oates - Rich Girl
David Bowie - Letter to Hermione
Dean Martin - Sway
Delroy Wilson - Dancing Mood
Dexys Midnight Runners - This Is What She's Like
Dinosaur Jr. - The Lung
Dion - Ruby Baby
Disco Tex and His Sex-O-Lettes - Get Dancin'
Dock Boggs - Brother Jim Got Shot
Don Drummond - Eastern Standard Time
Donald Fagen - IGY
Donald Fagen - Nightfly
Donovan - Season of the Witch
Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band - Cherchez La Femme
Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra - Black and Tan Fantasy
Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra - Cottontail
Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra - East St. Louis Toodle-oo
Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra - Jack the Bear
Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra - Sentimental Lady
Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra - Transblucency
Dusty Springfield - Anyone Who Had a Heart
Dusty Springfield - Spooky
Echo and The Bunnymen - Ocean Rain
Eddie Palmieri - Puerto Rico
Edith Piaf - L'Accordéoniste
Edith Piaf - Milord
Einstürzende Neubauten - Yu Gung
El Gran Combo - Don Goyo
Elder Curry and His Congregation - Memphis Flu
Electric Eels - Agitated
Elis Regina - Vou deitar e rolar (Quaquaraquaqua)
Elizabeth Cotton - Shake Sugaree
Ella Fitzgerald - The Way You Look Tonight
Ella Fitzgerald and Chick Webb - T'aint What You Do (It's the Way That You Do It)
Elliott Smith - Waltz #2 (XO)
Elmore James - It Hurts Me Too
Emerson, Lake and Palmer - The Endless Enigma 1
Emmylou Harris - Boulder to Birmingham
Ennio Morricone - Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
Erasure - A Little Respect
Eric Serra - The Big Blue Overture
Ernest Gold - Theme from "Exodus"
Ernest Tubb - Walking the Floor Over You
Ernie K. Doe - Mother-in-Law
Fairouz - Nassam Alayna Al Hawa
Fairport Convention - Chelsea Morning
Fairport Convention - Farewell, Farewell
Faith No More - Midlife Crisis
Farid el Atrache - Ya Reitni Tir
Fela Kuti - Dog Eat Dog
Fleetwood Mac - Hold Me
Flipper - Ever
Foetus - Sick Man
Frank Loesser - Sit Down, You're Rocking the Boat
Frank Sinatra - One for My Baby (And One More for the Road)
Frank Zappa - Inca Roads
Frankie Ruiz - Me Acostumbre
Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons - Can't Take My Eyes Off You
Freddie Scott - Are You Lonely for Me Baby
Gal Costa - Baby
Gang Starr - Just to Get a Rep
Gene Pitney - Something's Gotten Hold of My Heart
Genesis - One for the Vine
Gil Scott-Heron - The Bottle
Gilberto Gil - Marginalia II
Glen Campbell - Gentle on My Mind
Grace Jones - Demolition Man
Grateful Dead - Touch of Grey
Grupo Niche - Cielo de Tambores
Gwen McCrae - Rockin' Chair
Hamza el Din - Escalay
Hank Williams - Mansion on the Hill
Hank Williams - My Bucket's Got a Hole in It
Hardfloor - Once Again Back
Haris Alexiou - I Mangues Then Iparphoun Pia
Harold Melvin and The Bluenotes - If You Don't Know Me By Now
Harry Nilsson - Moonbeam
Henry Castro - Cumbia de Colombia
Herbie Hancock - Cantaloupe Island
Herbie Hancock - Rain Dance
Herbie Hancock - Rockit
Howard Jones - Hide & Seek
Humble Pie - 30 Days in the Hole
Hyper-On Experience - Lord of the Null Lines
Ian Dury - Sweet Gene Vincent
Incredible String Band - First Girl I Loved
Iron Maiden - Aces High
Ismael Rivera - Yo No Quiero Piedras en mi Camino
Jackie DeShannon - When You Walk in the Room
Jackie Wilson - Lonely Teardrops
Jackson C. Frank - Blues Run the Game
Jacques Dutronc - Les Cactus
James Brown - Mother Popcorn
James Brown - Papa Don't Take No Mess
Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing
Javanese Court Gamelan - Gending Tejanata / Ladrang Sembawa / Ladrang Playon
Jean Goldkette and His Orchestra - Clementine (From New Orleans)
Jean Jacques Perrey - E.V.A.
Jeanette - Corazon de Poeta
Jill Jones - Mia Bocca
Jim O'Rourke - Ghost Ship in a Storm
Jimmie Rodgers and Louis Armstrong - Standin' on the Corner
Jimmy Ruffin - What Becomes of the Broken Hearted
Joan Armatrading - Water With the Wine
Joe Arroyo - Por Ti No Morire
John Anderson - Seminole Wind
John Barry - Capsule in Space (You Only Live Twice)
John Coltrane - Ascension (Edition 1)
John Coltrane - Blue Train
John Martyn - Don't Want to Know
John Williams - The Imperial March (Star Wars)
Johnny Cash and June Carter - Jackson
Johnny Osbourne - Truths and Rights
Jon and Vangelis - The Friends of Mr. Cairo
Joni Mitchell - Blue
Joni Mitchell - River
Jorge Ben - Amor de Carnaval
Jorge Ben - Hermes Trismegisto Escreveu
Jorge Ben - Zumbi
Judee Sill - The Kiss
Judy Collins - Both Sides Now
Julie Andrews - The Lonely Goatherd (The Sound of Music)
Juliette Gréco - La valse brune
k.d. lang - Big Boned Gal
Kaleidoscope - The Sky Children
Kansas - Dust in the Wind
Kasenatz-Katz Singing Orchestral Circus - Quick Joey Small (Run Joey Run)
Kate Bush - Why Should I Love You
K-Ci and Jojo - All My Life
King Crimson - Exiles
King Crimson - I Talk to the Wind
King Sunny Adé - 365 Is My Number / The Message
King Tubby - 555 Dub Street
Kirsty Maccoll - Terry
Klaus Nomi - Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead
Kris Kristofferson - Sunday Mornin' Comin' Down
Kurt Weill - The Cannon Song
La Lupe - Amor Gitano
La Monte Young - Poem for Tables, Chairs and Benches etc.
Laurent X - Machines
Lee Perry and The Upsetters - Jungle Lion
Les Rallizes Denudes - Night of the Assassins
Levi 167 - Something Fresh to Swing To
Lionel Hampton - Jack the Bellboy
Little Junior and The Blue Flames - Feelin' Good
Little Richard - Long Tall Sally
Lonnie Donegan - Cumberland Gap
Lord Rockingham's XI - Hoots Mon
Lorraine Ellison - Stay With Me
Lou Rawls - You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mind
Lou Reed - Coney Island Baby
Louis Armstrong - Black and Blue
Louis Armstrong - Christmas Night in Harlem
Louis Armstrong - Hello Dolly!
Louis Armstrong - I Can't Give You Anything But Love
Louis Armstrong - Potato Head Blues
Louis Armstrong - Tight Like That
Louis Jordan - Choo Choo Ch'boogie
Love Inc. - R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
Love Unlimited - I'm So Glad That I'm a Woman
Low - Immune
Low - Stars Gone Out
Lucho Gatica - Un Historia de un Amor
Luciano Berio - Sinfonia: III - In ruhig fliessender Bewegung
Madonna - Burning Up
Magazine - You Never Knew Me
Mahalia Jackson - Trouble of the World
Mamie Smith and Her Jazz Hounds - Crazy Blues
Mansun - Cancer
Marc Almond - Jacky
Mark Snow - Theme from "The X-Files"
Martin Denny - Quiet Village
Mary J. Blige - Real Love
Mary Margaret O'Hara - Bodies in Trouble
Master P. - Burbons and Lacs
Max Steiner - Tara's Theme (Gone With the Wind)
Meshell Ndegeocello - Elliptical
Metal Urbain - Panik
MFSB - Love Is the Message (Danny Krivit Edit)
Mighty Sparrow - Jean and Dinah
Mikey Dread - World War III
Miriam Makeba - Mbube
Mississippi John Hurt - Avalon Blues
Mister (Fred) Rogers - It's You I Like
Misty in Roots - Intro/Mankind (Live at the Counter Eurovision)
Moby - Go
Mohammed Rafi - Jaan Pehechan Ho
Mongo Santamaria - Afro Blue
Morrissey - Why Don't You Find Out for Yourself
Motorpsycho - Mad Sun
Motorpsycho - The Golden Core
Mr. Bungle - My Ass Is on Fire
Mr. Bungle - Stubb (A Dub)
Muddy Waters - I Can't Be Satisfied
Nara Leão - Lindoneia
Nas - Halftime
Nas - Represent
Nat King Cole - Mona Lisa
Nat King Cole - Unforgettable
Neurosis - Purify
Next - Too Close
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - From Her to Eternity
Nick Drake - Which Will
Nick Lucas - Painting the Clouds With Sunshine
Nina Simone - Work Song
Nitro Deluxe - This Brutal House
Oasis - Columbia
Offspring - Self Esteem
Orbital - Belfast
Orbital - Out There Somewhere?
Orbital - The Box
Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - 2nd Thought
Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Maid of Orleans
Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Of All the Things We've Made
Otis Redding - That's How Strong My Love Is
Ozark Mountain Daredevils - Jackie Blue
P.M. Dawn - Set Adrift on Memory Bliss
Pat Benatar - Love Is a Battlefield
Patrice Rushen - Forget Me Nots
Patsy Cline - Walking After Midnight
Pentangle - Train Song
Perez Prado - Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White
Perez Prado and His Orchestra - Rumbalero
Pet Shop Boys - Opportunities (Let's Make Lots of Money)
Pete Namlook - Je Suis Triste Et Seul Ici
Phillip Glass - Music in Twelve Parts (Part I)
Piano Magic - Wrong French
Pierre Boulez - Répons
Pierre Henry - Psyché Rock
Pineapples - Come on Closer
Pink Floyd - Money
Pixies - River Euphrates
Planxty - The Blacksmith
Planxty - The Well Below the Valley
Prince - Adore
Prince - U Got the Look
Professor Longhair - Mardi Gras in New Orleans
Prolapse - Tina, This Is Matthew Stone
R. Dean Taylor - There's a Ghost in My House
R.E.M. - Camera
R.E.M. - Near Wild Heaven
R.E.M. - Orange Crush
Ray Barretto - A Deeper Shade of Soul
Ray Charles - Night Time Is the Right Time
Renaldo and The Loaf - Haul on the Bowline
Ricardo Ray - Richie's Jala Jala
Richard and Linda Thompson - The Great Valerio
Richard O'Brien - Shock Treatment
Richard Thompson - I Misunderstood
Robert Ashley - The Park
Robert Johnson - Kindhearted Woman Blues
Robert Johnson - Terraplane Blues
Robert Wyatt - The Age of Self
Roy Harper - When and Old Cricketer Leaves the Crease
Rufus Thomas - The Funky Chicken
Run DMC - Hit it Run
Rush - Hemispheres (full suite)
Salcos - Demolición
Sam Cooke - (What a) Wonderful World
Sandy Denny - Late November
Secos e Molhados - Sangue Latino
Sergei Rachmaninoff - Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini: Variation 18
Sidney Bechet - Summertime
Silver Apples - Program
Simon and Garfunkel - Homeward Bound
Simply Saucer - Illegal Bodies
Sinéad O'Connor - Troy
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Peek-a-Boo
Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Didn't it Rain
Sister Sledge - We Are Family
Slapp Happy - Dawn
Slayer - War Ensemble
Sleater-Kinney - One More Hour
Slim Gaillard - The Flat Foot Floogie
Slowdive - Ballad of Sister Sue
Slowdive - Crazy for You
Sly and The Family Stone - Sing a Simple Song
Sly and The Family Stone - Spaced Cowboy
Soft Machine - Moon in June
Son House - Empire State Express
Sonic Youth - Stereo Sanctity
Spacemen 3 - Suicide
Sparks - For the Girl With Everything
Sparks - Funny Face
Spiritualized - Medication
Spratleys Japs - Fanny
Steeleye Span - When I Was on Horseback
Steely Dan - Josie
Steve Reich - Different Trains: I. America (Before the War)
Subway Sect - Ambition
Swans - Goddamn the Sun
Syd Barrett - Late Night
T La Rock - It's Yours
T.Rex - Raw Ramp
Tangerine Dream - Birth of Liquid Plejades
Tangerine Dream - Sequent C'
Tantra - The Hills of Katmandu (Patrick Cowley Megamix)
Terminals - Mr. Clean
Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air
The Adventures of Stevie V - Dirty Cash (Money Talks)
The Bats - Block of Wood
The Beach Boys - Little Saint Nick
The Beach Boys - Sail on Sailor
The Bob Seger System - Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
The Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays
The Byrds - Going Back
The Byrds - Hickory Wind
The Byrds - Why
The Cadillacs - Speedo
The Clash - Janie Jones
The Clean - Getting Older
The Clean - Someone
The Coasters - Poison Ivy
The Congos - Open Up the Gate
The Contours - Do You Love Me
The Cowsills - The Rain, the Park and Other Things
The Cure - Friday I'm in Love
The Cure - Play for Today
The Del Vikings - Come Go With Me
The Delfonics - La-La Means I Love You
The Drifters - Up on the Roof
The Fall - Bonkers in Phoenix
The Fall - Gross Chapel / British Grenadiers
The Fall - Winter (Peel Session)
The Flaming Lips - A Spoonful Weighs a Ton
The Four Tops - I Can't Help Myself
The Gap Band - Burn Rubber
The Germs - Forming
The Glenn Miller Orchestra - Moonlight Serenade
The Gun Club - Ghost on the Highway
The Gun Club - Mother of Earth
The Hollies - King Midas in Reverse
The Homosexuals - False Sentiments
The Honeycombs - Have I the Right?
The Hues Corporation - Rock the Boat
The Jam - A Town Called Malice
The Jesus and Mary Chain - April Skies
The Kinks - Tired of Waiting for You
The Louvin Brothers - When I Stop Dreaming
The Lovin' Spoonful - Do You Believe in Magic
The Lovin' Spoonful - You Didn't Have to Be So Nice
The McCoys - Hang on Sloopy
The Mills Brothers - The Old Man of the Mountain
The Monotones - (Who Wrote) The Book of Love
The Moody Blues - The Actor
The Notorious B.I.G. - Who Shot Ya
The Penguins - Earth Angel
The Police - Message in a Bottle
The Prodigy - Charly
The Puddle - Into the Moon
The Red Krayola - Wives in Orbit
The Residents - Skratz
The Rolling Stones - Moonlight Mile
The Rolling Stones - Sister Morphine
The Ronettes - Baby, I Love You
The Sequence - And You Know That
The Shirelles - Soldier Boy
The Slits - So Tough
The Smiths - You Just Haven't Earned it Yet, Baby
The Stooges - Down on the Street
The Underdogs - Love's Gone Bad
The Undisputed Truth - Smiling Faces Sometimes
The Upsetters - Black Panta
The Ventures - Walk, Don't Run
The Verlaines - Death and the Maiden
The Wailers - Mr. Brown
The White Stripes - When I Hear My Name
The Who - Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere
The Wipers - Tragedy
The Yardbirds - For Your Love
Thelonious Monk - Bemsha Swing
Thelonious Monk - Epistrophy
Them - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
Thin Lizzy - Cowboy Song
Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments - Baboon's Liver
Tim Buckley - Dream Letter
Tom Waits - Cemetery Polka
Tommy Johnson - Cool Drink of Water Blues
Tony Bennett - Stranger in Paradise
Toru Takemitsu - Waltz from "Face of Another"
Townes Van Zandt - Waiting 'Round to Die
Tricky - Poems
Tyrone Davis - Turn Back the Hands of Time
Uakti - Arrumaçao
Ultra Vivid Scene - Mercy Seat
Ultramagnetic MCs - A Chorus Line
Ultravox - Slow Motion
Umm Kulthum - Robaeyat El Khayam
Underworld - Moaner
Unrest - Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl
Van Der Graaf Generator - After the Flood
Van Der Graaf Generator - Afterwards
Van Der Graaf Generator - Childlike Faith in Childhood's End
Van Der Graaf Generator - La Rossa
Van Der Graaf Generator - Scorched Earth
Vangelis - Ask the Mountains
Vashti Bunyan - Rose Hip November
Warren Zevon - Accidentally Like a Martyr
Ween - What Deaner Was Talkin' About
Wham! - Wake Me Up Before You Go Go
Willie Nelson - I'd Have to Be Crazy
Willie Rosario - La Mitad
Wire - I Should Have Known Better
Wizzard - See My Baby Jive
Yaz(oo) - Situation
Yello - Domingo
Yellow Magic Orchestra - La Femme Chinoise
Yoko Ono - Mrs. Lennon

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Heroes and Gimme Shelter are pretty popular songs of theirs! I mean I'm not a big fan of either, but I've heard those both a ton. Gimme Shelter has been used in like a bazillion films. Heroes was in a commercial, though prob just in the US?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I've never really listened to rock music (even when I was a teen I listened mostly to Eurodance and trance and rap), so I've never really dug deeper into that genre beyond the obvious hit tunes every one knows. I knew the Smith tunes because my ex was a huge Smiths fan, and some other things (like Joy Division) I've heard by hanging out with the sort of people who like indie rock. But that's about it for my knowledge of rock.

(xxxxx-post)

Tuomas, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

oh duh, it was probably stuff that no one voted for. nevermind...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

oh duh, it was limited to the higher-ranking lonelies, never mind...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

avert your eyes

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

It makes me sad I would've had to do a Top 340 countdown just to get my #1 in there.

340 The Platters - Smoke Gets in Your Eyes 733 6 1

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Happy to see that I was the only voter for 'Been caught Stealing' :)

babel on (pandemic), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

can someone just post like 100 links to that Bo Diddley live clip and then lock thread?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

seriously, has anyone else heard 'dream letter'? i can't understand why i was the only person who voted for it.

charlie h, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

So is anyone else into this idea...?

Okay, so we began some chatter about a 50s tracks/singles poll yesterday and carried it a little bit over into today, and I was thinking...I don't really want to run another one of these until next year (like, May at the earliest). But what about opening a rolling nominations thread now? Just let it roll through the end of May, giving us approximately six months to consume and evaluate as much 50s music as possible, time permitting. Then we end up with a well-rounded list and an informed electorate, and the voting can then begin.

In short, long window for nominations, brief window for voting. No pressure...you've got six months. Sound appealing?

― Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, December 3, 2010 5:28 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm 100% up for the poll. Also think a long period is a good idea, would give me time to research. But maybe leave it 'til new year before getting it up? I'm fatigued after this, it was kind of exhausting!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

(totally agree with not using the clip btw, I'd been expecting it maybe in the teens somewhere, had no idea it was so popular and it'd've been silly for the no.2. It turned up later on another thread anyway)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Johnny Fever, you helped me survive a week from hell....thank you soooo much for doing this! There are so many amazing omissions, how do we do a poll of the remainder??

iago g., Friday, 3 December 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

you're v welcome.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link

re the 50s poll:

yeah, i like that idea. BUT... i also like the idea of a pre-60s 20th century poll, for the five decades that got shafted in this last one. i say this because we could run individual decade polls for like the 00s-40s, but i suspect they'd be polite exercises with little community support.

even so, there's plenty of stuff from those years that could, i think, go toe-to-toe with the more familiar 50s rock/pop canon. classical composers, early blues & gospel & jazz, pop songs/standards, folk & country, avant-garde stuff (lol), and so on. plus it might give us a chance to hear some early 20th century music from outside the US. i, personally, could use the education. just a suggestion...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

That could be nice, but it would still need a very long nominations window with plenty of discussion in the meantime.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Need to find a better way of matching up multi-part classical compostions w/standalone pop songs.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Agreed. If I had it to do over, I'd opt to be more inclusive than restrictive. Like, "A Love Supreme" or the entirety of Gorecki's "Symphony No. 3" should've been included instead of splitting them up to make them match the criteria for pop music.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Individual polls for those things imo xp. I'd love a jazz tracks poll right now, that'd be the best education ever (unless their equivalent of the prog nerds dominate it)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I reckon the 50s could stand a poll on their own (chart pop here begins 1952, so as an era it makes sense even though the rock schism is, what, 1955?). The earlier decades I'm not so sure - maybe 1900-1949 would work?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Jumping in late again after all the fun is over, but very pleased to see Ghost Town make it so high, and I'm not complaining about the top as I voted for 1,2,3,6,7, and 9 (or at least I think I did). My highest placed song not to feature was 'Voodoo Ray'.

Porpoises Rescue Dick Van Dyke (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Scanning through the list now, I'm amazed 'Tears of a Clown' is so low, and I thought 'French Disko' would have been higher.

Porpoises Rescue Dick Van Dyke (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Ok, I've done this in a hurry and it's a bit hard to read but hopefully it's accurate. Each user only gets to vote for a given artist once - the user's top vote for that artist determines how many points are allocated.

The format is artist name, points, #Votes, #songs voted for/#songs nominated, #first place votes, first-placing voters

1 The Beatles 7080 58 18/20 2 Ismael Klata,nakamura
2 David Bowie 6810 61 13/13 1 Pillbox
3 The Beach Boys 6587 55 8/10 2 mike t-diva,iatee
4 The Rolling Stones 6413 54 10/13 1 kornrulez6969
5 The Velvet Underground 6270 56 13/13 1 seandalai
6 New Order 5558 48 8/9 1 SSS
7 Talking Heads 5256 48 7/7 0
8 Kate Bush 5033 50 6/6 0
9 Michael Jackson 4892 45 3/3 1 Two Red Ducks
10 Bob Dylan 4866 43 13/15 0
11 Stevie Wonder 4596 41 7/8 0
12 Kraftwerk 4291 41 6/7 0
13 Public Enemy 4265 40 7/7 0
14 The Clash 4142 35 8/9 0
15 Joy Division 3973 38 4/4 0
16 The Smiths 3962 38 4/6 0
17 Sonic Youth 3898 40 5/7 0
18 Fleetwood Mac 3887 35 7/7 0
19 Big Star 3775 38 3/4 0
20 Prince and The Revolution 3754 39 3/3 0
21 Pet Shop Boys 3694 35 7/8 1 daavid
22 Marvin Gaye 3555 33 5/6 0
23 Roxy Music 3539 32 7/7 0
24 Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five 3534 37 3/3 0
25 Prince 3509 30 5/7 0
26 Brian Eno 3489 33 8/8 0
27 The Kinks 3447 32 5/6 0
28 Billie Holiday 3444 31 2/4 0
29 Sly and The Family Stone 3350 32 6/6 0
30 James Brown 3277 32 10/10 0
31 Wire 3140 27 4/4 1 glynn
32 Sam Cooke 3116 32 4/4 0
33 Television 3089 27 2/2 0
34 Donna Summer 3069 34 2/2 0
35 Otis Redding 3014 28 2/3 1 CaptainLorax
36 Elvis Presley 2981 28 7/7 1 whatever
37 Pixies 2916 26 6/6 1 Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs
38 Leonard Cohen 2909 26 7/7 0
39 Scott Walker 2906 29 7/7 0
40 Can 2843 25 5/5 1 peter in montreal
41 Nick Drake 2810 26 6/7 1 charlie h
42 R.E.M. 2764 26 7/9 0
43 Funkadelic 2757 24 3/4 0
44 Steely Dan 2737 25 4/5 0
45 The Zombies 2721 26 4/4 0
46 The Ronettes 2721 25 1/2 1 MumblestheRevelator
47 Blondie 2715 27 4/4 0
48 The Cure 2715 26 9/11 0
49 Al Green 2705 27 5/5 0
50 Glen Campbell 2685 28 2/2 0

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

So for example, 58 voters voted for at least one Beatles song.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

How was it watching the list accumulate, Sean? Did it vary a lot?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, if you add Prince's points to Prince and the Revolution's points, they top The Beatles.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but some of those votes would probably cancel out when taking into account the one-artist-per-voter rule

captayn cronch (crüt), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks Sean! Shows up what one of the pitfalls of a best artist of the 20th Cent might be - Radiohead don't feature in that list, but I bet they would appear in a separate poll cos of their later stuff.

Also, um, not a lot of women there eh?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Uh I'm pretty sure Paranoid Android placed...

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Right but they don't appear in the small list of top 50 artists of the poll.

Spectrist, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

oic

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Prince goes up to 5th if you collapse the "Prince and..." variants into one artist:

5 Prince 6336 58 8/11 0

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Individual polls for those things imo xp. I'd love a jazz tracks poll right now, that'd be the best education ever (unless their equivalent of the prog nerds dominate it)

I reckon the 50s could stand a poll on their own (chart pop here begins 1952, so as an era it makes sense even though the rock schism is, what, 1955?). The earlier decades I'm not so sure - maybe 1900-1949 would work?

― Ismael Klata, Friday, December 3, 2010 3:33 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm not gonna beat this into the ground, but i would still argue for a totally open-ended, pre-60s all music poll over any set of categorized polls. the reason is that the big, comprehensive polls draw people in. you get not only the people who are interested in this or that thing (such as jazz, or oldies hits or whatever), but nearly everybody. there's just more at stake. a 50s poll would be fine and would probably generate lots of interest/input, but less so a general jazz poll, or an open-ended 00s - 40s poll. that stuff is just less familiar to a lot of people, and as a result, they're less invested.

a big, open-ended, 1st half of the 20th century poll would be an event. even if people were drawn in mostly by the opportunity to vote for chuck berry, patsy cline and other more familiar 50s chart pop, they'd wind up listening and voting outside that box, at least a little bit. especially with a six-month run-up.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I agree with contenderizer on this. Would have to decide whether the 50s are in or not (they're technically in the second half of the century).

In other news, I've posted some user statistics on the ballots thread.

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Berry would not be eligible in a first half of the century poll. xp

pixel farmer, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

wait so 61 people out of 88 voted for a david bowie song?

iatee, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

When you put it like that contenderizer, I'm with you all the way. This has been the best poll I've ever seen on here, and by some distance - anything that might get us close again is obviously fantastic as far as I'm concerned.

(still want a dedicated jazz poll though, but that's just cos I want to know more about jazz!)

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - Apparently so.

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link

If you combine Prince, who comes in at 50?

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 ILM's strange obsession with Tarzan Boy

makes me know I'm not alone...

Cunga, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, people were hypothesising massive vote-splitting for Duke Ellington; if all the votes had been concentrated on one or two tracks, he might have crept in:

63 Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra 2390 23 8/10 0

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

New #50:

50 The Who 2647 24 6/8 0

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

seandali and pixel farmer make a fair point. i'm using "1st 1/2 of the 20th" and "pre-60s" interchangeably, and they aren't. i mean the latter. i'd like to see the 50s included in the next big poll simply because that decade would, let's face it, be the "hook", the most distant decade with which a large number of ilxors have a working familiarity. the birth of modern pop and all that. on the other hand, though a few 50s tracks did make it into the top 125 here, the decade didn't really get a fair shake.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Pre-60s definitely makes sense, though I guess you can argue whether Elvis and Buddy Holly belong to the first or second half of the century in terms of musical culture.

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Had never heard Gimme Shelter before. Found it boring, but then I really don't like the Rolling Stones.

The things that people said were obscure / before our time weren't really. Some giants (like Louis Armstrong and Bing Crosby) have been mentioned. But some more:

Dave Brubeck's Take Five?
Gershwin's Porgy & Bess? Rhapsody in Blue?
Kurt Weill's Mack the Knife?
Irving Berlin's Putting on the Ritz?

No blues?

I guess there's no need to reiterate the general disdain for either late 60s / early 80s guitar choices. Absence of 90s was interesting. No acknowledgement that house music existed.

paulhw, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

THIS IS WHY WE NEED PRE-60s BOLL!

BOLL!

but house music lol

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe make it "The Pre-Beatles Era" i.e. pre-1963? (I flatly deny that this is a veiled attempt at smuggling Roy Orbison in)

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Er, haven't house music / techno and hip hop pretty much defined 1986-2000?

paulhw, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Dave Brubeck's Take Five?
Gershwin's Porgy & Bess? Rhapsody in Blue?
Kurt Weill's Mack the Knife?
Irving Berlin's Putting on the Ritz?

I attempted to nominate "Porgy & Bess" and was politely told to gtfo

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I think first-half-of-century and 1950s need to be separate polls.

pixel farmer, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I would be really into a similar poll that was just limited to jazz/classical/country/popular music up to rock n roll

iago g., Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Glen Campbell more popular than Hank Williams? What is going on?

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I would say pre-1963. 1963 is in many ways a key year. It was not only the first year of The Beatles (well, save for "Love Me Do"/"PS I Love You", but it was also a the year when Phil Spector, Beach Boys and Motown were really starting to find their sound. So, in a lot of ways, you could say that 1963 is the beginning of the "rockist" rock canon (save for the occasional Elvis Presley, Little Richard, Chuck Berry or Buddy Holly single). The girl groups/pop soul/Brill Building/pop country pop that dominated the 1960-62 era is hardly very represented in this poll at all.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Irving Berlin's Putting on the Ritz?

This is sheet music and not a recording. Unless you cite one specific recording, that is.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I would be really into a similar poll that was just limited to jazz/classical/country/popular music up to rock n roll

Jazz/blues/folk/country/pre-Beatles pop/rock'n'roll makes more sense and do classical separately.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir OTM big man.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

x-post. Agreed. I knew that this was always going to reflect the tastes of iloxrs to some degree, but I was initially intrigued by the *century* idea. Thought it might mean that people might reconsider before putting say, the Pixies Debaser, ahead of placeless songs like Someone to Watch Over me, or Blue Skies, or Moonlight Serenade, or countless Robert Johnson songs.

paulhw, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

The problem with pre-1963 is that it will be dominated by Elvis et al. because they are more familiar and closer to contemporary music than anything pre-1950. But hey, no poll is perfect and it would sure be fun.

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

as Geir said, you'd have to select performances I guess, which doesn't apply for classical and standards, for most at least

iago g., Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

There have been people performing "Putting On The Ritz" before Taco, you know. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I was the only voter for "Gentle On My Mind.." WTF

Most of these are among my 30 or 40 favorite songs ever so I'm happy to see they placed decently...

314 Aaliyah - One in a Million
294 The Zombies - She's Not There
282 The Trashmen - Surfin' Bird
280 Gary Numan - Cars
276 The Zombies - Time of the Season
185 Chris Bell - I Am the Cosmos
155 The Left Banke - Walk Away Renee

billstevejim, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

wait why are we suddenly talking about 'putting on the ritz', are we doing a worst song of the 20th century poll?

iatee, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

155 The Left Banke - Walk Away Renee

I seriously had never got round to listening to this track before this poll and fucking hell, what a fantastic song. Thanks people!

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Listenint to "Sway" now. Nice lil tune but wouldn't crack my top 10000.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

"Milord" now. Ew no thank you. Everything unappealing about stereotypical "European" old-timey music, esp the accordion.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

"putting on the ritz" is wonderful, shaddap

The problem with pre-1963 is that it will be dominated by Elvis et al. because they are more familiar and closer to contemporary music than anything pre-1950. But hey, no poll is perfect and it would sure be fun.

― seandalai, Friday, December 3, 2010 4:49 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

this could be true. it's true that i'd expect an open-ended pre-63 poll (pre-60s poll, whatever)to be somewhat dominated by familiar standards & "golden oldies" from the late 40s through the early 60s. that stuff has been kept alive in the media, has a clear relationship to the pazz & jop that followed, and those artists often worked well into the latter half of the century. but i don't think this this would be anywhere near soo one-sided as the crushing dominance of post-50s and especially 70s & 80s pop in this last poll. where immediate experience won out over historical perspective time and time again.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link

o editor!

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

276 The Zombies - Time of the Season
185 Chris Bell - I Am the Cosmos

yeah, voted for these two with varying degrees of hope. expected the zombies to do better, especially given all the beach boys/beatles love floating around.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Not trying to offend, but I can't get over how awful that Kate Bush song and video are! You guys are playing a practical joke, right?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Which one?

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Running Up a Hill. Forgot there were two, what a travesty.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

228 Andrea True Connection - More, More, More

ROBBED!

This should have been #1 instead of that fucking Beach Boys tripe.

Also, no other votes for Ultravox's "Slow Motion?" Y'all need a new wave history lesson.

Kent Burt, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I think if you do a poll of the 1900-1959, the 50s are going to tend to dominate (with maybe some competition from the 40s). Might as well just do a 50s poll.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the video for Running up That Hill is pretty bad, but I think the song is great.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, shocked that not one James Brown placed. Vote-split or not, "Sex Machine" should have placed.

Kent Burt, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

More, More, More another victim of anti-one-hit wonder bias. Think nominating & voting thought process went like "hmm what are my favorite artists...okay now what are my favorite songs of theirs" rather than purely "ok what are some really awesome tunes". I didn't vote but that's prob how I'd do it, too, cause it's too difficult to pull up most of those random awesome songs without the hook of a favorite artist with them.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, no other votes for Ultravox's "Slow Motion?" Y'all need a new wave history lesson.

― Kent Burt, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:33 (6 minutes ago)

I have Ultravox's Island Years compilation and fucking love it to bits. Slow Motion is one of the worst tracks on it. They should have chosen Can't Stay Long instead which is so much better

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I attempted to nominate "Porgy & Bess" and was politely told to gtfo

― Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Friday, December 3, 2010 7:36 PM (49 minutes ago)

I already said that, given the opportunity to do it over again, I'd probably accept composers' full works instead of chopping them up -- including things like "A Love Supreme" and the entirety of Gorecki's Symphony No. 3, for example. However, I maintain that staged musicals can easily be split into individual parts, including Gershwin's Porgy & Bess.

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

James Brown was the highest-scoring artist not to make the top 125. Elvis was next, then Leonard Cohen, then Scott Walker.

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Or, kept Slow Motion which isn't bad really but not amazing like most of the other songs, but DEFINITELY dropped Life At Rainbow's End which sticks out like a horrid sore thumb

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I Think I'm Alone Now Galleria of Sadness (one vote wonders) has a Grooveshark Playlist now :D
(only missing songs are Umm Kulthum - 'Robaeyat El Khayam', Fairouz - 'Nassam Alayna Al Hawa', Spratleys Japs - 'Fanny', Farid el Atrache - 'Ya Reitni Tir' and La Lupe - 'Amor Gitano')

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

did this actually happen? link a lazy drunk bastard to the top 100 would you?

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

no, bottom 100

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I did nominate "Summertime" Dan!

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Results are here: http://mondosalvo.com/TOP20th.htm

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Was the Cardiacs song in the Galleria of Sadness (grooveshark) your vote Abbbottt?

It's a pretty good little playlist I made here

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

'Twas mine, Lorax, as you should know :P

Abbott voted for a Cardiacs song but I voted for it too! Kitchen Person voted for Dirty Boy and someone even voted for Flap Off You Beak which is pretty staggering

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Only Cardiacs I voted for was R.E.S. on the reasoning that I was voting for maybe five songs in one.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

but DEFINITELY dropped Life At Rainbow's End which sticks out like a horrid sore thumb

Madness.

Kent Burt, Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

that is true

xpost

dude, I'm saying the rest is solid gold, one mediocre and one dud outta 18 ain't bad

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Also I should note I think R.E.S. is fucking awesome.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link

So does anyone who presses play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZ_x3rDspo

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Dusty Springfield's best moments >>> Be My Baby obv

― gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Friday, December 3, 2010 12:51 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

coming back to read this hours after the fact, still so angered by this. I think it's the 'obv'

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Galleria of Sadness is sounding pretty good so far! Even the Soft Machine track is better than I thought, though I'm not sure if I have the stomach to listen to it all the way through.

Tuomas, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

but very happy about all the love for my #1 aguas de marco, kinda makes this whole crazy poll worth it

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link

anybody who throws an 'obv' into this thread is just being a dick, obv

pixel farmer, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link

coming back to read this hours after the fact, still so angered by this. I think it's the 'obv'

― The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:02 (2 minutes ago)

i learnt 2 b flippant from ice cr?m hes who u have 2 blame

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link

also, awesomepollgreatjob!!!!

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link

also I will give that Grooveshark playlist a right good listen; I'm responsible for enough of it after all!

gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Captain Lorax, can you upload stuff to Grooveshark or do you just have to use what's already there? Because I send you the four tracks I nominated that are included on this list (or send you a link).

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Am listening to it now, and enjoying it so far. Looking forward to hearing the rest.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Suddenly realize why "Tomorrow Never Knows" was not in the Top 125. It was never nominated.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

hmm possibly

iatee, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait, it looks like you found the Fairouz track for that mix.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Did the Spotify playlist for the Top 125 get updated?

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

CaptainLorax, check your email.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

That cardiacs song seemed interesting. And then he started singing. Dear god.

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

For ease, here's the top 125 again for latecomers

125. JOHNNY CASH "Folsom Prison Blues" (1955) [1,153 points, 13 votes]
124. FLEETWOOD MAC "Go Your Own Way" (1977) [1,155 points, 10 votes]
123. MOTÖRHEAD "Ace of Spades" (1980) [1,159 points, 13 votes]
122. STAN GETZ & ASTRUD GILBERTO "The Girl From Ipanema" (1964) [1,160 points, 11 votes]
121. PIXIES "Debaser" (1989) [1,161 points, 11 votes]
120. HENRY MANCINI & JOHNNY MERCER "Moon River" (1961) [1,165 points, 9 votes]
119. 10CC "I'm Not in Love" (1975) [1,167 points, 12 votes]
118. LINK WRAY & HIS RAY MEN "Rumble" (1958) [1,170 points, 12 votes]
117. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN "Born to Run" (1975) [1,175 points, 10 votes]
116. PRINCE "Controversy" (1981) [1,176 points, 9 votes]
115. THE BEACH BOYS "Surf's Up" (1971) [1,184 points, 10 votes]
114. THE ROLLING STONES "Paint it Black" (1966) [1,185 points, 12 votes]
113. MILES DAVIS "Shhh/Peaceful" (1969) [1,186 points, 11 votes]
112. N.W.A "Straight Outta Compton" (1988) [1,195 points, 11 votes]
111. JOHN COLTRANE "My Favorite Things" (1961) [1,195 points, 12 votes]
110. STEREOLAB "Jenny Ondioline" (1993) [1,197 points, 11 votes]
109. KATE BUSH "Wuthering Heights" (1978) [1,197 points, 13 votes]
108. NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE "Cortez the Killer" (1975) [1,198 points, 11 votes]
107. BOBBY WOMACK "Across 110th Street" (1972) [1,203 points, 11 votes]
106. KRAFTWERK "Computer Love" (1981) [1,209 points, 10 votes]
105. THE SUPREMES "You Keep Me Hangin' On" (1966) [1,216 points, 13 votes]
104. RON GRAINER & DELIA DERBYSHIRE "Theme From 'Dr. Who'" (1963) [1,219 points, 12 votes]
103. THE KINKS "You Really Got Me" (1964) [1,220 points, 12 votes]
102. TALKING HEADS "This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)" (1983) [1,221 points, 10 votes]
99. (TIE) THE JIMI HENDRIX EXPERIENCE "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" (1968) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) KING CRIMSON "21st Century Schizoid Man" (1969) [1,223 points, 12 votes]
99. (TIE) MOTT THE HOOPLE "All the Young Dudes" (1972) [1,223 points, 12 votes]

98. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Heroin" (1967) [1,231 points, 11 votes]
97. THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. "Juicy" (1994) [1,266 points, 11 votes]
96. BOB DYLAN "Tangled Up in Blue" (1975) [1,268 points, 11 votes]
94. (TIE) NIRVANA "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (1991) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
94. (TIE) CAMEO "Word Up" (1986) [1,275 points, 12 votes]
93. CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL "Fortunate Son" (1969) [1,276 points, 14 votes]
92. THE VINCE GUARALDI TRIO "Linus and Lucy" (1964) [1,280 points, 13 votes]
91. TOOTS & THE MAYTALS "Pressure Drop" (1970) [1,282 points, 13 votes]
90. THE CLASH "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" (1978) [1,287 points, 11 votes]
89. THE BEATLES "Penny Lane" (1967) [1,290 points, 11 votes]
88. WIRE "Outdoor Miner" (1978) [1,296 points, 11 votes]
87. ABBA "Dancing Queen" (1976) [1,297 points, 12 votes]
86. AL GREEN "Let's Stay Together" (1971) [1,299 points, 14 votes]
85. MADONNA "Into the Groove" (1985) [1,300 points, 12 votes]
84. CLAUDE DEBUSSY "Clair de Lune" (1905) [1,301 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote]
83. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "Kiss" (1986) [1,308 points, 14 votes]
82. THE SMITHS "How Soon Is Now?" (1985) [1,311 points, 14 votes]
81. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Soon" (1991) [1,313 points, 11 votes]
79. (TIE) LED ZEPPELIN "When the Levee Breaks" (1971) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
79. (TIE) NEW ORDER "Ceremony" (1981) [1,313 points, 13 votes]
78. KRAFTWERK "Trans Europe Express" (1977) [1,325 points, 14 votes]
77. KRAFTWERK "Autobahn" (1974) [1,331 points, 12 votes]

76. DAVID BOWIE "Life on Mars?" (1973) [1,336 points, 13 votes]
75. BRIAN ENO "St. Elmo's Fire" (1975) [1,339 points, 12 votes]
74. ROXY MUSIC "Virginia Plain" (1972) [1,346 points, 12 votes]
73. IGGY & THE STOOGES "Search and Destroy" (1973) [1,351 points, 15 votes]
72. ELIS REGINA & ANTONIO CARLOS JOBIM "Águas de Março" (1974) [1,352 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]
71. THE ZOMBIES "Care of Cell 44" (1968) [1,355 points, 13 votes]
70. BIG STAR "Thirteen" (1972) [1,362 points, 14 votes]
69. TOM TOM CLUB "Genius of Love" (1981) [1,373 points, 16 votes]
68. JOY DIVISION "Transmission" (1979) [1,379 points, 14 votes]
67. YES "Close to the Edge" (1972) [1,386 points, 12 votes]
66. GETO BOYS "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" (1991) [1,395 points, 13 votes]
65. BJÖRK "Hyperballad" (1995) [1,397 points, 13 votes]
64. WIRE "Map Ref. 41°N 93°W" (1979) [1,401 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
63. M|A|R|R|S "Pump Up the Volume" (1987) [1,402 points, 15 votes]
62. CURTIS MAYFIELD "Move on Up" (1970) [1,407 points, 14 votes]
61. GIL SCOTT-HERON "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" (1971) [1,412 points, 14 votes]
60. RADIOHEAD "Paranoid Android" (1997) [1,417 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote]
59. KATE BUSH "Cloudbusting" (1985) [1,427 points, 13 votes]
57. (TIE) DR. DRE ft. SNOOP DOGG "Nuthin' But a 'G' Thang" (1992) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
57. (TIE) NINA SIMONE "Sinnerman" (1965) [1,447 points, 14 votes]
56. THE BEACH BOYS "Wouldn't it Be Nice" (1966) [1,460 points, 12 votes]
55. QUEEN ft. DAVID BOWIE "Under Pressure" (1981) [1,475 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes]
54. PET SHOP BOYS "West End Girls" (1985) [1,491 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote]
53. NANCY SINATRA & LEE HAZLEWOOD "Some Velvet Morning" (1967) [1,492 points, 17 votes]
52. CHEAP TRICK "Surrender" (1978) [1,493 points, 15 votes]
51. DOLLY PARTON "Jolene" (1973) [1,493 points, 17 votes]

50. SCREAMIN' JAY HAWKINS "I Put a Spell on You" (1956) [1,495 points, 17 votes]
49. THE VELVET UNDERGROUND "Sister Ray" (1968) [1,551 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote]
48. SLY & THE FAMILY STONE "Family Affair" (1971) [1,558 points, 15 votes]
47. NEW ORDER "Blue Monday" (1983) [1,571 points, 14 votes]
46. DESMOND DEKKER & THE ACES "Israelites" (1968) [1,591 points, 15 votes]
45. CHIC "Good Times" (1979) [1,604 points, 18 votes]
44. PULP "Common People" (1995) [1,625 points, 13 votes]
43. NEW ORDER "Temptation" (1982) [1,629 points, 14 votes]
42. DEPECHE MODE "Enjoy the Silence" (1990) [1,640 points, 14 votes]
41. PRINCE "Little Red Corvette" (1982) [1,651 points, 15 votes]
40. PUBLIC ENEMY "Bring the Noise" (1987) [1,659 points, 16 votes]
39. THE UNDERTONES "Teenage Kicks" (1978) [1,703 points, 17 votes]
38. DEEE-LITE "Groove Is in the Heart" (1990) [1,732 points, 16 votes]
37. THE SMITHS "There Is a Light That Never Goes Out" (1986) [1,787 points, 17 votes]
36. MARVIN GAYE "I Heard it Through the Grapevine" (1968) [1,863 points, 16 votes]
35. SONIC YOUTH "Teen Age Riot" (1988) [1,865 points, 21 votes]
34. THE FLAMINGOS "I Only Have Eyes for You" (1959) [1,867 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote]
33. FUNKADELIC "Maggot Brain" (1971) [1,908 points, 16 votes]
32. JOY DIVISION "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (1980) [1,909 points, 18 votes]
31. THE BEATLES "A Day in the Life" (1967) [1,933 points, 18 votes]
30. THE JACKSON 5 "I Want You Back" (1969) [1,953 points, 18 votes]
29. THE MODERN LOVERS "Roadrunner" (1972) [1,957 points, 18 votes]
28. SAM COOKE "A Change Is Gonna Come" (1964) [1,968 points, 21 votes]
27. ? & THE MYSTERIANS "96 Tears" (1966) [1,987 points, 17 votes]
26. BOB DYLAN "Like a Rolling Stone" (1965) [2,025 points, 19 votes]

25. ALTHEA & DONNA "Uptown Top Ranking" (1977) [2,050 points, 20 votes]
24. BIG STAR "September Gurls" (1974) [2,102 points, 21 votes]
23. BLUE ÖYSTER CULT "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" (1976) [2,139 points, 20 votes]
22. PRINCE & THE REVOLUTION "When Doves Cry" (1984) [2,152 points, 23 votes]
21. MICHAEL JACKSON "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" (1979) [2,181 points, 21 votes]
20. THE SMITHS "This Charming Man" (1983) [2,182 points, 21 votes]
19. OTIS REDDING "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" (1968) [2,219 points, 21 votes]
18. LAURIE ANDERSON "O Superman" (1981) [2,249 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]
17. THE BEATLES "Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967) [2,254 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes]
16. TALKING HEADS "Once in a Lifetime" (1980) [2,281 points, 21 votes]
15. THE SPECIALS "Ghost Town" (1981) [2,304 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote]
14. THE KINKS "Waterloo Sunset" (1967) [2,350 points, 21 votes]
13. STEVIE WONDER "Superstition" (1972) [2,358 points, 22 votes]
12. DAVID BOWIE "Heroes" (1977) [2,444 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote]
11. KATE BUSH "Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)" (1985) [2,446 points, 27 votes]
10. GRANDMASTER FLASH & THE FURIOUS FIVE "The Message" (1982) [2,474 points, 26 votes]
09. THE BEACH BOYS "Good Vibrations" (1966) [2,510 points, 25 votes]
08. TELEVISION "Marquee Moon" (1977) [2,587 points, 22 votes]
07. MICHAEL JACKSON "Billie Jean" (1982) [2,604 points, 24 votes, 1 first place vote]
06. GLEN CAMPBELL "Wichita Lineman" (1968) [2,687 points, 28 votes]
05. BILLIE HOLIDAY "Strange Fruit" (1939) [2,699 points, 24 votes]
04. THE RONETTES "Be My Baby" (1963) [2,721 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote]
03. DONNA SUMMER "I Feel Love" (1977) [2,912 points, 32 votes]
02. THE ROLLING STONES "Gimme Shelter" (1969) [3,100 points, 26 votes]
01. THE BEACH BOYS "God Only Knows" (1966) [3,286 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote]

And the full list: http://mondosalvo.com/TOP20th.htm

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Cant believe witchita lineman polled so high. That song is so utterly boring and horrible.

Frank Lloyd Webber (Trayce), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Those are my feelings on "Marquee Moon".

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't believe ILM pollers had shit taste.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't believe other human beings liked different things to me.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

haha

Señor Mexico (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the Witchita Lineman cover I posted
I'll check my e-mail _Rudipherous_

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I never understood why people get so excited about funnel cake.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh so this is a live Fairouz version on the grooveshark mix. I had the original studio/soundtrack version in mind, but this sounds good. Good song, great singer. Fairly safe in that case.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Captain Lorax you also forgot Darcy Clay - Jesus I was Evil off that list.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 4 December 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"Something's Gotten Hold of My Heart" seems familiar but in a really remote way. I don't know if I've heard it before or not.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

1. No Smokey Robinson? You are all mad.
2. Really?

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link

You know, there really are a lot of good songs on this list. Thank you.

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

The noms list is also very handy.
I thank you also.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:54 (thirteen years ago) link

CaptainLorax, check your email again. I accidentally sent you the wrong Fairouz song. Sorry to be a pain in the ass.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 05:44 (thirteen years ago) link

That cardiacs song seemed interesting. And then he started singing. Dear god.

Dear Trayce,

Welcome to almost my verbatim experience with The Cardiacs.

xoxoxo, DJP

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Saturday, 4 December 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link

ditto that DJP :p

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 4 December 2010 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link

o consensus

Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 06:14 (thirteen years ago) link

love you lj, but dear god and beyond

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 December 2010 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link

if u give up after 20 seconds it doesn't count btw

Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link

whole thing or stfu

Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 06:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Got to about 3:16 when the guitar noodling started. Sorry.

babel on (pandemic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to The Captain's grooveshark playlist right now (btw thank you). And you know what? 'Moon In June' is good. But does it really need to be 19 mins long? I think I may be missing the point however.

babel on (pandemic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link

it tttttotally does need to be 19 minutes long! how else are you gonna have a sublime jazz-rock wig-out followed by an escapist psych-drone finale hewn from the very cosmos

Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Saturday, 4 December 2010 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Great work guys. Happier with the results of this poll than most others, Still a few wtf placings (Love Action at 970, Do You Believe In Magic 1283, What Become of the Brokenhearted at 1451) but overall pretty good.

Incidentally if the Sandy Denny/Fairport versions of Who Knows Where The Time Goes are combined that gets 1200 points and slides in at 108.

Go for a 50's poll and a 1900-1949 poll separately otherwise the first half of the century will be stiffed by the rock 'n' roll juggernaut.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 4 December 2010 09:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Did the Spotify playlist for the Top 125 get updated?

Indeed it did: http://bit.ly/fdTfYf

scotstvo, Saturday, 4 December 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I had no idea "Uptown Top Ranking" was so popular and ting

PEAVEY Ó))) (Ówen P.), Saturday, 4 December 2010 11:35 (thirteen years ago) link

A bit disappointed by "Don't You Want Me"'s showing. I thought there were lots of people into that song here. Not that #285 is bad in a poll of more than 2000, but I seriously expected it to be in the Top 100.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 4 December 2010 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link

X-Post: "Uptown Top Ranking" is an awesome and catchy reggae tune, but ranking it as reggae's greatest moment may be a bit over the top.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 4 December 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

gonna stick my neck out and guess that a lot of the "Uptown Top Ranking" votes weren't from hardcore Reggae heads. which is irrelevant cos it's a total classic.

absinthe of malithe (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Excellent work dudes. I have never really got the Beach Boys but yay for I Feel Love and Ghost Town placing so high.

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Also has anyone been updating a Spotify playlist for all this?

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

See about 10 posts up.

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

"Uptown Top Ranking" is an awesome and catchy reggae tune, but ranking it as reggae's greatest moment may be a bit over the top.

Geir OTM!!!!!!!

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Add best reggae song to the polls list.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

would vote in a reggae poll

captayn cronch (crüt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, it seems I gave my top marks to the winning song. Truly, I am Mister Consensus.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow. kind of surprised at Crimson and Clover not being in the top 650!

Fetchboy, Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I would nominate tracks and vote pure quality in a reggae poll. The best would be to extend it to dancehall and dub.

the structuralist constructions of (Viceroy), Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Would be into a reggae poll

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, is there a thread for awesome reggae youtubes somewhere? Really enjoyed watching videos of 'Double Barrel' and 'Poison Flour' and 'Jungle Lion' and whatnot for this poll.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

awesome reggae youtubes

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess, if "Ghost Town" counts as reggae, "Uptown Top Ranking" isn't the highest ranking reggae entry here.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, but they're sort of on the fringe, no?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 December 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

just wait till alex in nyc finds out there's no killing joke

Ah, but there is.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 4 December 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, um, not a lot of women there eh?

― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:52 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well none of you fuckers also put points towards my riot grrl #1

has anyone done a spotify playlist of the 1voters and top 125?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 4 December 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Top 125 is here: http://bit.ly/fdTfYf

I'll do the 1-votes if there's an appetite for it?

scotstvo, Saturday, 4 December 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

chhers!

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 4 December 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Putting the 1-voters together anyway, though there are substantial gaps cos of tracks not being on Spotify. Here is what's available anyway: http://bit.ly/hivelX (though it is a work in progress).

scotstvo, Saturday, 4 December 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Btw. Any poll that is supposed to include pre-rock standards and does not include this one is completely without any sort of credibility:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNxygsLGHSQ

;)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 5 December 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

scotstvo, I don't know how Spotify works, but if the Umm Kulthum song is missing and it can be uploaded, I can supply it. But maybe it doesn't work that way.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 December 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe that piece of crap song was so high on the poll. It's so boring and awful. How could you vote for swill like that?

Meanwhile, that other song is so good. It's absolutely ridiculous that it's ranked so low.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 5 December 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

^rong on both counts

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 5 December 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

OTM

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Sunday, 5 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

people have bitched a lot itt this thread about pre-50s music being shut out, but it's interesting that there are only two songs from the 90s in the top 50 and nothing higher than groove is in the heart at 38

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Sunday, 5 December 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

scotstvo, I don't know how Spotify works, but if the Umm Kulthum song is missing and it can be uploaded, I can supply it. But maybe it doesn't work that way.

If you've got it locally, then you can add it and play it locally, but the only tracks that *everyone* can play are the ones that reside on Spotify's server farm :(

scotstvo, Sunday, 5 December 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

people have bitched a lot itt this thread about pre-50s music being shut out, but it's interesting that there are only two songs from the 90s in the top 50 and nothing higher than groove is in the heart at 38

this is an interesting point. breaking it down by decade, we get:

<1950 - 2 (2%)
1950s - 4 (3%)
1960s - 34 (27%)
1970s - 43 (34%)
1980s - 31 (25%)
1990s - 11 (9%)

which is a fairly clean parabola peaking in the 70s. like f(x) = .50x^2 + 7.73x - 265.07, or thereabouts.

makes a lot of sense, really. most of us probably grew up in the 60s, 70s and/or 80s, and even if we're quite young ("we" aren't), the cultural shadow of the 60s and 70s still looms large. also, the closer we are to things, the more ambivalent they tend to seem. that sounds counter-intuitive, but the distant past has been digested for us by a process of cultural meaning-making. the more recent past, on the other hand, is as yet undigested. it's up for grabs and thus indistinct. in the case of music, it's easy to say what the 60s canon is, but harder to be as certain about the 90s. history simply hasn't rendered a verdict yet. to the extent that our choices are guided and reassured by the appeal-to-authority a canon provides, our 90s choices would then likely be a bit more timid and less unanimous. which seems supported by the data. meanwhile, the distant past might come to seem old, dusty, unfamiliar and belonging rightly to someone else.

in light of all that, i'm not at all surprised to find that the 70s are the list's sweet spot, with slightly less representation of the 60s and 80s, then dropping steeply off as we near the present or fade into the past.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

^ avoiding math homework

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link

is there a link to the list? can't open this thread without crashing my browser

sonderborg, Sunday, 5 December 2010 08:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm 24 and you can fuck off.

ps: sorry for telling you to fuck off. the beatles fuck off thread amped me up.

Moka, Sunday, 5 December 2010 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link

link was posted upthread

http://mondosalvo.com/TOP20th.htm

Dan S, Sunday, 5 December 2010 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link

183 Pete Rock and CL Smooth - TROY 966 8 1 a hoy hoy

You guys suck fyi, this should have been in the top ten over some wack fucking stones song and a kiddie fucker. wichita ballsuckers.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

594 Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five - The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel 494 5 0

787 Doug E. Fresh and The Get Fresh Crew - The Show 380 4 0

818 Bobby "Boris" Pickett - Monster Mash 362 3 0

834 Blackstreet - No Diggity 354 4 0
834 OutKast - Elevators (Me and You) 354 4 0

1082 ESG - UFO 253 3 0
1082 ESG - UFO 253 3 0
1082 ESG - UFO 253 3 0

RMDE

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Well 23 of my 100 were hip hop tracks, incl. 'No Diggity' and 'The Show'. No 'T.R.O.Y' tho -sorry.
The rest of my choices were corny indie fux. Was disappointed at no 'Shook Ones Part II' or 'Protect Ya Neck' admittedly.

babel on (pandemic), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

all the #1s available on spotify

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

can't open this thread without crashing my browser

Try temporarily turning images off (in your preferences). I can no longer open this full thread without images shut off.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, gotta love the folks who put "White Christmas" and "Con the partirò" as their #1s. (Not that they're bad songs, but it's hard for me to imagine someone thinking either one is the best song of the century.)

Tuomas, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

(x-post)

Tuomas, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Thanks JF and seandedata.

2. Top 250 is solid (if you ignore Pavement) - kinda wish you'd counted down from #250 now. ;)

3. Lots of "TOO LOW"s from my perspective obv but the only real surprise was "Adventures of Grandmaster Flash" at #594 or something.

4. Like others, my eyebrows shot up @ the #2

5. Thanks JF and seandedata!!!!

Jeff W, Sunday, 5 December 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I really love Gold Soundz but I'll be honest and say I made a place for it on my ballot because of its special place in the ILX canon.

Gukbe, Sunday, 5 December 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

183 Pete Rock and CL Smooth - TROY 966 8 1 a hoy hoy

You guys suck fyi, this should have been in the top ten over some wack fucking stones song and a kiddie fucker. wichita ballsuckers.

― purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Sunday, December 5, 2010 6:16 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

My number 3/top rap song!!!

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Sunday, 5 December 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

All I can say is I can't believe the Shaggs won! That really made my day. Thanks everyone!

emil.y, Sunday, 5 December 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

128 The Mamas and The Papas - California Dreamin' 1136 10 0

150 Gladys Knight and The Pips - Midnight Train to Georgia 1074 8 0

:(

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

my number 2! (midnight train)

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

(I realize this is probably getting annoying)

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Buffalo stance wuz robbed

billstevejim, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks a lot to Johnny Fever and seandalai. the countdown was fun and the expended version of the list was great to see.

would love a 50's poll

I apologize for the irritating comments. Will work on my manners.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

missed the noms & sent a v hasty list. results threads are fun & some good things here but it shows that the ilm that was involved in this poll is not v representative of ilm as a whole. the voting process obv takes out a lot of the idiosyncracies but even the noms were off.

ogmor, Thursday, 9 December 2010 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

what was "off" about the noms list to you?

lookin qwyte (crüt), Thursday, 9 December 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link

lacking much noise/goon/dance/metal/uk nuum flavour

ogmor, Thursday, 9 December 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

UK flare was still evident in the results

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 9 December 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I take ogmor's point, but what noise/etc. track would have got 13 votes or more even if there had been a stronger showing by the metal/bobbins/etc. crews? This kind of wide-open poll will always favour consensus/crossover tracks.

seandalai, Thursday, 9 December 2010 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

lorax uk nuum != uk

seandalai, i'm not pointing out a glaring lack of ringtone rap in the "best tracks of the 20thC" poll.

re - "consensus/crossover tracks", the consensus is narrower than ilx imo. i don't think the ppl who voted's taste reflects that of ppl who didn't & i'm not sure ppl who voted's taste is more generalist than that of ppl who didn't.

ogmor, Thursday, 9 December 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for throwing stones almost a month after nominations ended. Really helpful.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 9 December 2010 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

hey i like things that aren't True

ogmor, Thursday, 9 December 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

lacking much noise/goon/dance/metal/uk nuum flavour

What the heck are "goon" and "nuum"?

Tuomas, Thursday, 9 December 2010 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, isn't "ringtone rap" a 21st century phenomenon? The poll was about 20th century, what 80s/90s rap counts as "ringtone"?

Tuomas, Thursday, 9 December 2010 07:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think the ppl who voted's taste reflects that of ppl who didn't & i'm not sure ppl who voted's taste is more generalist than that of ppl who didn't.

and you base this on?

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:15 (thirteen years ago) link

The poll was about 20th century, what 80s/90s rap counts as "ringtone"?

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irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

How can you have ringtone rap in 1986 when ringtones didn't even exist?

Tuomas, Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link

did people not have phones in 1986 in finland?

also yeah i just threw that in to improve everyones morning. even geir could get down to it.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure in 1986 you couldn't set a pop tune as your ringtone.

Tuomas, Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Seems I didn't understand your point, ogmor: you said the results were "lacking much noise/goon/dance/metal/uk nuum flavour" and I observed that (a) many of the posters most strongly associated with those genres didn't participate; (b) even if they had, and nominated/voted for Los Angeles Free Music Society or Burzum or whatever, I still wouldn't have expected those artists to get enough support to crack the top 125; (c) in general, people who vote in ILM polls != ILM posters as a whole. Not sure where "ringtone rap" comes in.

seandalai, Thursday, 9 December 2010 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I will answer your questions Tuomas, since I asked one of them before, myself. "Nuum" is a (Simon Reynolds? or somebody like that haha) term for music on the continuum of dance/electronic music. I think "goon" is just rap, but not sure if that's an exclusively ILM thing or not. (Even if it is, I think it derives from broader slang.) But I mean, come on, you've never noticed "goon" in thread titles here and so forth?

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Goon's a new one to me as well.

THE GOON! (started by David R. on board I Love Comics on 12-Jul-2007)

GOON OPERA vs MOVE ON RMX (started by it's darn and ielle is hot (and what) on board I Love Music on 25-Feb-2009)

Lock this goon-magnet thread pls (started by don on board Moderator Request Forum on 26-Sep-2005)

Did Global Goon make a song about a gibbon? (started by gareth on board I Love Music on 13-Mar-2002)

KuNT FACTory NAZZI GOON SUCK MADD DICK (started by Old School (sexyDancer) on board All Noise Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar on 17-Sep-2005)

fennesz. global goon. mark bell. brothrom states. venetian snares (started by gareth on board I Love Music on 08-Feb-2002)

speaking of chris goss, the new goon moon album is pretty cool. (started by scott seward on board I Love Music on 25-Feb-2007)

*goon bat signal* plies on "lose my mind" vs plies on "wasted" (started by Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.) on board I Love Music on 16-Jun-2010)

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 December 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

rolling autogoon is p much seen as one of the ilm canon thread titles

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 9 December 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

nuum is a bit vague but the core is uk garage/2step/dubstep/funky/grime

my quarrel is just w/ the notion that there is some unambiguous ilx core middleground (& that any poll of 88 ilm ppl wld unearth it), not w/ the poll which has been full of top listening&bitching. i think seandalai's points are otm, but it's not that i think the list has neglected niche tastes, but that its worth noting that any set of 88 ilm ppl are going to come up w/ a peculiar, arbitrary list w/ outrageous omissions & differing consensuses. having it turn out that 10% of the 20th C's finest jams involve peter hook is not an inevitability 'given the sorts of ppl on ilx'. there such wide variation/deviation that any notion of 'ilx norm' is v weak & any midpoints wld be liable to move around a lot over different polls.

ogmor, Thursday, 9 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

*there IS such wide variation...

ogmor, Thursday, 9 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

lorax uk nuum != uk

I know, I just wanted to segue in my offhand comment: "UK flare was still evident in the results" :P

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One Vote Wonders: Galleria of Sadness playlist discussion (ILM Polls the 20th Century spin-off thread)
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I updated the streamable playlist for songs that got only one vote but also were thrown tons of points (200-170)
So yall can check it out and post about it

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

nuum is a bit vague but the core is uk garage/2step/dubstep/funky/grime

We're talking about the entirety of the 20th Century, most of this stuff is peripheral or irrelevant. The 90s really feels like beginning of the 21st century music-wise, rather than the end of the 20th.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

By irrelevent I mean "irrelevent due to being too late".

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

nuum is a bit vague but the core is uk garage/2step/dubstep/funky/grime

Okay, but except for UK garage I don't think these genres were around until the 21st century, so I don't get why you're complaining about their absence in "best of the 20th century" poll?

Tuomas, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I assumed ogmor was being facetious when he bemoaned the absence of submarginal genres.

a confident, off-duty spy (staggerlee), Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

^ this makes more sense than lodging it as any kind of serious complaint. there was a shortage of disco & dance music, "avant garde" extremity and metal/punk in the final results, but so much of the 20th century got shorted that it hardly makes sense to suggest the results aren't really representative of ILM. we can't know how the people who didn't vote would have voted, after all...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Severe shortage of 90's rock... the only two 90's rock songs to hit the top 125 were 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' and 'Paranoid Android'. which are basically iceberg tip representatives of 90's rock. (and no, I don't consider Pulp - 'Common People' a rock song, it's much more poppy, and Bjork - Hyperballed is more adult alternative etc.)

But I didn't really expect much 90's rock to have hit the top 125 anyways - this isn't actually a complaint. I've accepted that 90's rock will live on in the "whatever man" category and I wouldn't have it any other way. Also, I don't think ILXors of a Certain Age are going to try to vibe with a lot of 90's indie/underground/alternative when they don't care much for 90's rock to begin with. I am a 90's dude and I don't claim to understand or try to understand 80's love for New Order etc.

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Since I mostly pick at the surface of 80's music that might explain why 'This Charming Man' is my favorite Smiths song (which I love) and I'm relatively unaware of anything by The Smiths besides half their greatest hits

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I was in my twenties for most of the 90s and I look back on a lot of the music made then with absolute disdain. Even some of the stuff I really, really liked. I can't really explain it other than to say some of it just doesn't retain its eternal mystery like the stuff I heard in my youth and teens, and the stuff I've heard over the last ten years of this century. The second half of the 90s is just a time I'd rather selectively remember one day, but I'm not in that place yet.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i have been hyperballed

The Dumbest Jews on the Planet (and Maureen Dowd) (symsymsym), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I was in my twenties for most of the 90s and I look back on a lot of the music made then with absolute disdain. Even some of the stuff I really, really liked. I can't really explain it other than to say some of it just doesn't retain its eternal mystery like the stuff I heard in my youth and teens, and the stuff I've heard over the last ten years of this century. The second half of the 90s is just a time I'd rather selectively remember one day, but I'm not in that place yet.

100% otm in ways i cannot begin to describe.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link

IMO ppl who say this were not into drum n bass

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I love that 'Gimme Shelter' placed so highly - they were channelling magic there

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

IMO ppl who say this were not into drum n bass

I wasn't, but it wasn't due to lack of exposure. I could just never get into like I did the more icy elements of IDM. But there was also the "lookitme!" of the period's hip-hop, the really droll post-rock, the horrible radio rock and the reemergence of boy bands and Britney/Xtina right at the tail end. Even bands I liked from earlier in the decade released some of their worst albums during that time.

It's weird how I can see it so clearly, yet if asked what I was listening to between 1995-99, I couldn't tell you with any certainty. Except I'd probably say it was a time I spent really getting to know older music...well, from the sixties and seventies anyway.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i was into drum & bass in the 90s and don't look back at plug with any more fondness than nirvana.

anyway:

I was in my twenties for most of the 90s and I look back on a lot of the music made then with absolute disdain. Even some of the stuff I really, really liked. I can't really explain it other than to say some of it just doesn't retain its eternal mystery like the stuff I heard in my youth and teens, and the stuff I've heard over the last ten years of this century. The second half of the 90s is just a time I'd rather selectively remember one day, but I'm not in that place yet.

here is the thing: the clothes that have just recently realized are unfashionable will always seem infinitely more hideous than the clothes you realized were unfashionable ages ago. it's possible to cherish the ridiculousness of the distant past, but we can only flee in abject horror from yesterday's mistakes.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I recommend going back to check out Panacea's Low Profile Darkness and Amon Tobin's Permutation.

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

95-99 were my formative years in terms of listening, but I'm not sure I voted for anything from that period. I guess the primary reasons are that my tastes have broadened into other areas (I was a resolute proto-fuxxor at the time) and that my knowledge of what preceded means the "achievements" of the 90s don't stand out for me as much as they used to. I might throw dEUS/Morphine/Tindersticks/GYBE/AMT/SY a few places in my Top 500 but they don't make my Top 100.

The point about drum and bass seems plausible though. I had no idea about such things.

seandalai, Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I just can't fathom hating the late 90s since it's like the heyday of jungle/dnb/trip-hop

Also there were some excellent, game-changing albums from Orbital and Underworld in that time period.

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

don't forget about good 90s rock :|
le sigh

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I still listen to Archers of Loaf, Guided By Voices and, if I'm feeling masochistic, some Pavement. Less Superchunk than I used to, but even at the time I knew their post-On the Mouth albums weren't as good.

I find I actually do have some weird affection for some of the big rock radio hits of the era, though, but that's mostly because I heard them a zillion times while I was delivering pizza. ("If You Could Only See" by Tonic, for example)

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

a lot of what you still like 90s-wise is BLANDDDDDD

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Eh, I likes what I likes.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I just can't fathom hating the late 90s since it's like the heyday of jungle/dnb/trip-hop

My biggest problem with the poll results was that the whole 15 year period of electronic dance music from mid-80s to 1999 (house, techno, jungle, trance, drum'n'bass, big beat, etc) was represented by just one track, "Pump Up the Volume". That's more than a decade of highly influential and important stuff that was pretty much ignored - as far as I know, electronic music has never been as popular as it was in the 90s. (Except maybe in 2009-10.) I don't really know why this stuff didn't make the list... Maybe because the 90s are still too close to feel nostalgic about? Or because ILM has become more US-centric, and AFAIK Americans were much less into electronic music in the 90s than Europeans?

Tuomas, Friday, 10 December 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

a lot of what you still like 90s-wise is BLANDDDDDD

eh, a lot of what everybody likes is BLANDDDDDD (how many Ds?) if you don't like it. like amon tobin always kinda bored me, but maybe i was listening to the wrong albums/tracks.

in defense of 90s rock: melvins, cheater slicks, royal trux, karp, sun city girls, new bomb turks, jesus lizard, unrest, brainiac, polvo, sleep, kyuss, sonic youth, swans, boredoms, teenage fanclub, electric wizard, unwound, teengenerate, spiritualized, country teasers, urge overkill, monoshock, the fall, th faith healers, GBV, headcoats/childish, gories, mr. bungle, buffalo daughter, cathedral, circle, cynics, tav falco, the magic hour, steel pole bath tub, bassholes, jon spencer BX, the ex, the kent 3, laughing hyenas, monster magnet, godflesh, oblivians, angel'in heavy syrup, rocket from the crypt, terminal cheesecake, brainbombs, fushitsusha, entombed, the mummies, ST-37, yura yura teikoku, dog faced hermans, ETC

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 10 December 2010 07:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't even recognize music from 4/5ths of your list. Just goes to show how little people know about 90's rock (which is the point I've been hinting at). People shouldn't dismiss 90's rock when they don't know 90's rock. End of story

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 10 December 2010 08:04 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeuHjrttE_I

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 10 December 2010 08:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I recognize about 95% of contenderizer's shortlist there, and listened to a fair chunk of it at the time, but I've got almost zero desire to do that now.

By the way, that's a pretty big net he cast with that list stylistically. What 90s rock are you referring to anyway?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Friday, 10 December 2010 08:08 (thirteen years ago) link

apparently not contenderizers favs :/
I can make a shortlist tomorrow

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 10 December 2010 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link

My biggest problem with the poll results was that the whole 15 year period of electronic dance music from mid-80s to 1999 (house, techno, jungle, trance, drum'n'bass, big beat, etc) was represented by just one track, "Pump Up the Volume"... I don't really know why this stuff didn't make the list... Maybe because the 90s are still too close to feel nostalgic about? Or because ILM has become more US-centric, and AFAIK Americans were much less into electronic music in the 90s than Europeans?

fair complaint, but the run-up process took several weeks. during that time, the nominations thread was rarely far from the top of ILM's main page. i.e., most everybody who visits here even occasionally had time to get their favorites on the ballot. and it's not like "pump up the volume" was the only semi-contemporary electronic dance track nominated. the rest just didn't make the final cut. me, i wound up striking stuff like "one more time" and "music sounds better with you" pretty early in the process.

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Friday, 10 December 2010 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link

xp to Johnny Fever
(also my jab on you liking some "bland stuff" like pavement was retaliation of what you said about Can upthread - and yeah, bland is different for everyone)

ZOUNDS! (CaptainLorax), Friday, 10 December 2010 08:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Fair. I don't hate Can, but I definitely don't love them either. Except "Turtles Have Short Legs". I love that one.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Friday, 10 December 2010 08:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't even know which Can song is that one. What do you feel about their short more pop oriented songs? Like say; Moonshake, Mushroom, I'm so Green...

Moka, Friday, 10 December 2010 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link

as this is not clear; i'm not complaining that this list is unrepresentative of ilm due to the lack of T.I., rangda & terror danjah. however when i initially brought up dance/goon/noise shit i was not being facetious & i believe there is more diversity&variety on ilm than would be likely to appear on any 88 ballot poll.

it wld be odd if ppl w/ different interests in music of the present had similar interests in music from the past. most music discussed on the noise board isn't noise, but there is def a noise board ethos/flavour & v little of it was nominated for this list. i am sceptical of the idea that talkings heads & kate bush form part of the glue which unites the various ilx subgroups.

a poll this size will likely be fun & not v revealing about the broad workings of the landscape of ilx taste.

contenderizer's almost saying - "the results of a poll are representative if everyone had the opportunity to take part" - ...

moka you should get to know "turtles have short legs"

ogmor, Saturday, 11 December 2010 02:09 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Most of the 90's bands listed above that I recognize are cool.. However, except for Sonic Youth (who placed) and maybe Guided By Voices (although that's pushing it), I don't think any of them have written or recorded any of the 100 or 200 best songs of the 20th century, whereas (IMO) Nirvana and Radiohead most certainly have.

billstevejim, Saturday, 11 December 2010 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Regarding electronic dance music, that genre has sort of made a point out of not wanting to have a "canon", so there is probably more of a voice split than in the case of rock and pop music and even hip-hop/R&B.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

There are definitely a few canonical choices in '90s electronic/dance, though. I mean, if 18 year-old rock dude version of me bought the Utah Saints album in 1992, it must've had a sizeable impact outside of the club scene.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 11 December 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to "turtles have short legs" right now. It's incredible! Very different from everything else they have in their catalogue (at least when Damo was in the band) I forgive JF for being a Can detractor for indirectly introducing me to it.

I think the closest it comes to is 'I'm So Green' which is my favorite Can song and iirc also Julian Cope's.

Moka, Saturday, 11 December 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

who the fuck are utah saints

reginald velkohnson (crüt), Sunday, 12 December 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Big dance act in the early 90s, had three top 10 singles and a top 10 album in the UK, and they were quite popular elsewhere in Europe too.

Utah Saints - Classic Or Dud?

Based on the above thread many Americans seem to have heard them back then too, don't know why or how. Anyway, you might've been too young to register them back then. They pretty much disappeared after the first album, releasing only one single in 1995 (which is dope, btw). They put out a comeback album in 2000, but I don't think too many people cared about that, even though it features Chuck D and Michael Stipe.

Tuomas, Sunday, 12 December 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

The New Yorker list: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2010/12/ben-greenman-songs.html

1925: “Collegiate,” by Fred Waring’s Pennsylvanians
1926: “Fat Meat and Greens,” by Jelly Roll Morton
1927: “Struttin’ With Some Barbecue,” by Louis Armstrong
1928: “Statesboro Blues,” by Blind Willie McTell
1929: “That’s How I Feel Today,” by The Little Chocolate Dandies
1930: “It Happened in Monterey,” by Ruth Etting
1931: “Farewell Blues,” by Cab Calloway
1932: “Night And Day,” by Fred Astaire
1933: “Tea for Two,” by Art Tatum
1934: “Moonglow,” by Benny Goodman
1935: “I’m Gonna Sit Right Down And Write Myself A Letter,” by Fats Waller
1936: “Summertime,” by Billie Holiday
1937: “Sweet Home Chicago,” by Robert Johnson
1938: “Begin The Beguine,” by Artie Shaw
1939: “Moonlight Serenade,” by Glenn Miller Orchestra
1940: “New San Antonio Rose,” by Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys
1941: “Jumpin’ Punkins,” by Duke Ellington
1942: “Sleepy Lagoon,” by Harry James
1943: “Paper Doll,” by The Mills Brothers
1944: “Swinging on a Star (Single),” by Bing Crosby
1945: “Scorpio,” by Mary Lou Williams
1946: “Choo Choo Ch’boogie,” by Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
1947: “Serenade of the Bells,” by Jo Stafford
1948: “Nature Boy,” by Nat King Cole
1949: “Just Friends,” by Charlie Parker
1950: “The Fat Man,” by Fats Domino
1951: “Rocket 88,” by Jackie Brenston
1952: “Lawdy Miss Clawdy,” by Lloyd Price
1953: “Your Cheatin’ Heart,” by Hank Williams
1954: “Work With Me Annie,” by Hank Ballard & The Midnighters
1955: “Folsom Prison Blues,” by Johnny Cash
1956: “Strode Rode,” by Sonny Rollins
1957: “Mona (I Need You Baby),” by Bo Diddley
1958: “Rock Billy Boogie,” by Johnny Burnette
1959: “Along Came Jones,” by The Coasters
1960: “Walk Don’t Run,” by The Ventures
1961: “Shout Bamalama,” by Otis Redding
1962: “Return To Sender,” by Elvis Presley
1963: “Be My Baby,” by The Ronettes
1964: “Nadine (Is It You?),” by Chuck Berry
1965: “I Can’t Explain,” by The Who
1966: “Day Tripper,” by The Beatles
1967: “I Heard It Through the Grapevine,” by Gladys Knight & The Pips
1968: “White Light / White Heat,” by The Velvet Underground
1969: “Israelites,” by Desmond Dekker
1970: “Spirit in the Sky,” by Norman Greenbaum
1971: “Family Affair,” by Sly & The Family Stone
1972: “Superfly,” by Curtis Mayfield
1973: “The Payback,” by James Brown
1974: “You Haven’t Done Nothin’,” by Stevie Wonder
1975: “The Ballroom Blitz,” by The Sweet
1976: “Give Up the Funk (Tear the Roof Off the Sucker),” by Parliament
1977: “Got to Give It Up—Pt. 1,” by Marvin Gaye
1978: “Miss You,” by Rolling Stones
1979: “Rock Lobster,” by The B-52’s
1980: “Cars,” by Gary Numan
1981: “Rapture,” by Blondie
1982: “Buffalo Gals,” by Malcolm McLaren
1983: “Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’,” by Michael Jackson
1984: “Head Over Heels,” by The Go-Go’s
1985: “Perfect Way,” by Scritti Politti
1986: “Walk This Way,” by Run-DMC
1987: “Housequake,” by Prince
1988: “Express Yourself ,” by N.W.A.
1989: “Me Myself and I,” by De La Soul
1990: “Love Will Never Do Without You,” by Janet Jackson
1991: “Mama Said Knock You Out,” by LL Cool J
1992: “Rump Shaker,” by Wreckx-N-Effect
1993: “Return of the Crazy One,” by Digital Underground
1994: “Whatta Man,” by Salt-N-Pepa
1995: “California Love,” by 2Pac
1996: “Where It’s At,” by Beck
1997: “Hypnotize,” by The Notorious B.I.G.
1998: “Intergalactic,” by Beastie Boys
1999: “Vivrant Thing,” by Q-Tip
2000: “Music,” by Madonna
2001: “Get Ur Freak On,” by Missy Elliot
2002: “Without Me,” by Eminem
2003: “Crazy in Love,” by Beyonce, featuring Jay-Z
2004: “Yeah,” by Usher, featuring Lil Jon and Ludacris
2005: “Daft Punk Is Playing At My House,” by LCD Soundsystem
2006: “SexyBack,” by Justin Timberlake
2007: “Umbrella,” by Rihanna
2008: “Paper Planes,” by M.I.A.
2009: “Heads Will Roll,” by Yeah Yeah Yeahs
2010: “Monster,” by Kanye West, featuring Jay-Z, Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj and Bon Iver

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

i am sceptical of the idea that talkings heads & kate bush form part of the glue which unites the various ilx subgroups.

a poll this size will likely be fun & not v revealing about the broad workings of the landscape of ilx taste.

contenderizer's almost saying - "the results of a poll are representative if everyone had the opportunity to take part" - ...

― ogmor, Friday, December 10, 2010 6:09 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

yeah, but i was being somewhat facetious there. thing is, this isn't an ILX poll; it's an ILM poll. those might seem similar, but i agree that they're not exactly the same. and while it was open to all, from the discussion on the related threads, it seems to have drawn the most participation from ILM regulars, no surprise. of course, it's likely that greater participation from posters who spend most/all of their time on ILE, noise, 1p3, 77 or whatever would have altered the results in some way, but it's impossible to say how things would or wouldn't have changed. like a heavy noise turnout might have given us a better showing for the boredoms and steely dan, right? but i doubt that things would have been radically upended. a lot of the most prominent contributors to the threads related to this poll regularly post on many other boards, and the sample size here is quite large relative to the day-to-day ILX population. a sample of 80 respondents when the population size is so low to begin with is plenty large enough to guarantee a low margin for error (were we to pretend this survey was in any way scientific). and from what i've seen in my years here, talking heads and kate bush really are the ties that bind - two of them, anyway...

phish in your sleazebag (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Utah Saints more than most others to me seem like very much a thing of the moment back in 1992-93, and then not much more. I think that is also part of the thing here, in that those few electronica acts that have gotten some kind of "canon" recognition (Prodigy, Leftfield, Chemicals etc.) usually have because they have maybe appealed more to typical "rock" fans than most electronica acts did.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Utah Saints are very much trapped in 92/93, I agree, but that doesn't lessen the imprint of "Something Good" and other first-album tracks on the dance/electronic canon, though. I'd imagine the reason they're not still frequently mentioned alongside Prodigy, etc is that their output since that time has a) been nearly non-existent and b) not at the forefront of anything.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

in defense of 90s rock: melvins, cheater slicks, royal trux, karp, sun city girls, new bomb turks, jesus lizard, unrest, brainiac, polvo, sleep, kyuss, sonic youth, swans, boredoms, teenage fanclub, electric wizard, unwound, teengenerate, spiritualized, country teasers, urge overkill, monoshock, the fall, th faith healers, GBV, headcoats/childish, gories, mr. bungle, buffalo daughter, cathedral, circle, cynics, tav falco, the magic hour, steel pole bath tub, bassholes, jon spencer BX, the ex, the kent 3, laughing hyenas, monster magnet, godflesh, oblivians, angel'in heavy syrup, rocket from the crypt, terminal cheesecake, brainbombs, fushitsusha, entombed, the mummies, ST-37, yura yura teikoku, dog faced hermans, ETC

If there's one thing any ILM poll needs its more indie rock.

Are you guys really arguing about the absence of Utah Saints in a best of the 20th century poll? What next, Carter USM?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

What next, Carter USM?

lol

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link

re: Utah Saints, "What Can You Do For Me?" > "Something Good"

Also I can't believe "Motorbike" by Sheep On Drugs didn't make it! Were you all living under rocks in the 90s?

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Would've been weird if both "Something Good" and "Cloudbusting" had placed.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

The lack of "This is House" by Elevator 101 has seriously shaken my faith in ILM's ability to venerate music

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Are you guys really arguing about the absence of Utah Saints in a best of the 20th century poll?

No one was arguing for that. Johnny mentioned the Utah Saints album as an example of dance music even American rock fans knew of, Curtis asked who the Utah Saints are, and I answered the question. There are certainly many dance tunes much more iconic than Utah Saints absent from the list.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

The KLF could've at least shown up. Not a glimpse from the Prodigy either?

What are you doing here? (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

What happened to all of the 80 AUM heads?

"Kiss Players♥" (DJP), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Were ABBA in this thread?

What are you doing here? (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

"Whatta man" might be the most annoying song of 1994.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

that new yorker list is sweet, especially the accompanying youtube playlist http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D9814090B61CF731 I'm at 1942 right now. It's a great resource for the pre-1950 poll

once more Jagger faps the hivemind (symsymsym), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link

sb xp

once more Jagger faps the hivemind (symsymsym), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

ILX probably showed me this one back in the day: Here's Stephin Merritt's one-recording*-a-year list for the 20th C (taking some licence with years, classical works being dated by first performance etc).

*) Not "track".

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 23 December 2010 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Utah Saints are very much trapped in 92/93, I agree, but that doesn't lessen the imprint of "Something Good" and other first-album tracks on the dance/electronic canon, though. I'd imagine the reason they're not still frequently mentioned alongside Prodigy, etc is that their output since that time has a) been nearly non-existent and b) not at the forefront of anything.

My main problem with Utah Saints is the sample sources were way too obvious. And I know a lot of other people thought alike.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 23 December 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

boggled that Over the Rainbow isn't on here

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

Way overrated.

emil.y, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 10:07 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

It's a shame how myopic this list ended up being. 1950's poll that sprang from it was fucking great, tho!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 June 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link


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