Countdown 100: Bands that got megahyped that failed spectacularly...

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100. Deaf School

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Darn. Will move to ILM in ...

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

99. Gay Dad

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

98. Menswear

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

97. Freur AKA "Elephant with a stick of rhubarb" AKA "that dumb squiggle logo band"

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

96. Moby Grape

... commercially that is, not artistically

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

95. Terris

patapon pataphysics (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

94. Babylon Zoo

Tuomas, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

93. Brinsley Schwarz

... this is the British example that was always brought up, pre-punk at least, not sure what went on with them tho

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

94. Brinsley Schwarz, for similar reasons to 96

xpost OK, 93 then.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

92. Puddle Of Mud

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

91. Black Kids

seandalai, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

90. Jobriath

... artists count too?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

re: 93. They had a gig at the Filmore, supporting Van Morrison I believe, they ferried the UK press out with a "free trip to the best new band ever" ticket, but the trip was a nightmare and the gig was over when the press got there. no forgiveness.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

89. Tapes N Tapes

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

88. Supercharge

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

87. Nasty Rox Inc.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

86. Campag Velocet.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

85. Sigue Sigue Sputnik

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

84. Spelt Like This.
83. The Roaring Boys.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Not Sigue Sigue Sputnik though, a number two hit, followed by a bunch of stuff that did OK, as well as could be expected)

xpost, funnily enough!

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

92. Puddle Of Mud

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:56 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

only 5 million copies? FAIL

^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

82. Ultrasound.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

3 Sigue Sigue Sputnik Love Missile F1-11 Single Mar 1986
20 Sigue Sigue Sputnik Twenty-First Century Boy Single Jun 1986
10 Sigue Sigue Sputnik Flaunt It Album Aug 1986
31 Sigue Sigue Sputnik Success Single Nov 1988

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

81. Fischerspooner

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

80. Fischer-Z

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

79. Animal Collective

79. Jimmy the Hoover

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

78. Advertising

The EMI band that was going to save them after the Sex Pistols debacle.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

83. The Roaring Boys.

Wow, had forgotten that lot!

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

78. Advertising

Tot Taylor, right?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

77. King Trigger

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

76. Doctors of Madness

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

75 a) Orlando; b) Plastic Fantastic; c) Dex Dexter; d) and so forth

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Minty!

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's almost like a whole subgenre of just-before-punk British flop bands from 1975-1977, when the record companies had no idea what they were doing anymore. About 5 of them have already been mentioned. Almost all the Pub Rock bands for a start

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

73 RPLA
The RPLA Debacle

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

72. Canibus

^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

71. Mick Jagger solo

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

78, yep.

The biz being so london-centric, a whole host of pub rock bands got signed because they worked well in a pub, but outside of that, no-one cared. none got megahyped though, aside from the Brinz, as mentioned. Oh, Dr Feelgood did, but hey: Success or what?

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

70. Theaudience

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I didn't realise Deaf School got megahyped - they were a brilliant band!

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

69. Lone Star.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

68. S*M*A*S*H

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

67 Blue Rondo a la Turk

66 Animal Nightlife

65 King

sonofstan, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

64. Funkapolitan

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

63. Ultrasound

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

63 already 82.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

62. Campag Velocet

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ been done

62. Slade (in the USA)

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

61 : Tiny Dancers

the sheer extravagence on the promos etc (and weren;t they famously one of the last big ££ signings prior to the big EMI shakeup), but did anyone buy the album ?

mark e, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

60. Northern Uproar

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

59. These Animal Men

ledge, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

do american mags not hype up anything?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm trying to remember the last actually hyped American band that had zero success; even The Click 5 had like one hit song.

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't know if Christiana DeBarge was actually megahyped but she performed on So You Think You Can Dance once and then was never heard from again

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

even big n rich sell records right?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

they sell FUCKTONS of records!

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

58. Andrew WK

Aqua Buddha (herb albert), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ yeah!

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Not sure I understand the meaning of the word "megahyped" in re: half these bands

Mo Tucker Mo Problems (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

57. Dave Matthews Band (in the UK)

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

but dmb were never hyped in the uk. Probably never even written about. Noone outside of ilm has probably heard them in the uk!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

I remember a huge poster campaign! 'Who is Dave Matthews?'

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

56. clap your hands and say yeah

Zeno, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

55. kula shaker

Zeno, Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Andrew WK was fairly successful. WTF

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

I remember a huge poster campaign! 'Who is Dave Matthews?'

That really worked, didn't it?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ a million selling album is a failure?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 14:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

John Mayer is consistently regarded as the hit singer over here, except his hit total is one album on the chart here for 1 week.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Check: Dreamworks roster circa 2000. Cupcakes (industry hype), Palo Alto (Rick Rubin producing)...

Excluding Skits and Such (Eazy), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kula Shaker did alright!

54. Joe Lean and the Jing Fucking Jang Fucking Jong.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ thanx for nothing there, mike

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ had erased them from my memory till then

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

In the interests of useful info rather than self-plugging, here's a piece I co-wrote five years ago where the likes of Orlando, Birdland and Brinsley Schwarz explained what went wrong. We got curt refusals from Gay Dad and Terris.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2005/jan/28/2

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have a promo copy of Joe Lean's unreleased debut. It will be worth literally pennies one day.

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh man, World of Twist :(

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Any band that gets megahyped in the US is already popular. Milli Vanilli is probably the closest I can think of to a group that turned hype into spectacular failure.

skip, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Proteges and familiar relations of successful artists/industry-folks have that big push and fail in the U.S. all the time.

Excluding Skits and Such (Eazy), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have a promo copy of Joe Lean's unreleased debut. It will be worth literally pennies one day.

I have an ultra-collectible six-track promo CD of the self-same lost masterpiece! Unfortunately, it is unplayable on any CD player which I possess.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

where the likes of Orlando, Birdland and Brinsley Schwarz explained what went wrong.

Birdland were successful! They brought me and my wife together.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

so in the US, hype from indie mags doesn't count as hype? cuz that's just what most of the UK examples are.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

32 Birdland Sleep With Me Single Feb 1990

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, the hype I was originally alluding to was the "big spend on advertising"...

Can you buy good coverage from the UK indie mags?

Answers on a postcard...

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

there must have been loads of hype for garage and jungle acts too

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Scene-specific dance acts have their own criteria for success though.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

In dance music, Alex Reece was a big flop but so was every "crossover" drum'n'bass act really. Even Goldie and Reprazent lost momentum very quickly.

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also on Dreamworks: Chicks

seandalai, Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

53. Credit To The Nation

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hype from "indie mags" means something completely different, and a much much lower level of attention, in the USA.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

has ms dynamite ever been seen again?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

I see her in the shops buying sweets for her kids sometimes.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

And Lady Sovereign's the one selling her the sweets

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lisa Mafia on Sov's days off.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

52. One True Voice

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

51. Jedward

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

etc

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

(xxxp) Sign on the door saying "Speech Debelle will not to be served in this shop"

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

ms dynamite has had a top 40 hit this year, and made two of last year's best singles!!!!! wtf.

hype around dance acts is mostly because of the rapid turnover of dance trends, right?

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, that Zinc tune is fat. Glad she's back to MCing.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

ms dynamite has had a top 40 hit this year, and made two of last year's best singles!!!!! wtf.

I think "failed spectacularly" is being used here to mean "did not take over the world as expected" - and having one single scrape into the top 40 kind of falls into that category. I think the British mainstream pretty much forgot her after buying "Dy-na-mi-tee" and giving her a string of awards.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Who hasn't had a Top 40 hit this year, I know I have

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

like with most "indie bands" who were hyped.
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

and that mentality is exactly why this country sucks

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

50. Kevin Federline

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

okay in what world was Kevin Federline "megahyped"

I distinctly remember "megamocked"

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laynXVsBulg&feature=related

like, no one was excited for this except Kevin Federline

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

and that mentality is exactly why this country sucks

one of many reasons, but yes :(

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

there's a sporting parallel - unless you actually WIN WIMBLEDON then you're characterised as a "bottler". there's plenty of room between "taking over the world" (and really was anyone actually ever expecting ms d to actually do this?) and completely flopping, which has a qualitative aspect to it - when you think back to an act that "flops", with all the connotations of the word, it's usually with a frisson of embarrassment, "what were we thinking" - an admission that they were NEVER any good. which especially doesn't apply if the artist is still making critically acclaimed music.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

tbf this is not a uniquely British attitude

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

(haha i just noticed that "wile out" is still the jukebox's no 1 single of the year so far! and "get low" was THE anthem of sónar this year, no contest, heard it about 943834394 times)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

We got curt refusals from Gay Dad and Terris.

Dorian, did you ask the drummer?

(¬_¬) (Nicole), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

(the uniquely british attitude is to hate on people even more if they DO take over the world)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Commercial failure is not the same as artistic failure but it's failure nonetheless

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 September 2010 15:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ooh, ooh, I got a USA one!

49. Johnny Cougar.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

if the media and public hadn't turned on those nme acts, the country could have been taken over by nme indie acts & ms dynamite and the lex could have been happy.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lex OTM. And I doubt Ms Dynamite lost the label money, whereas famous flops like Brinsley Schwarz, Moby Grape, Fischerspooner, etc lost a packet. Imo, if someone's had one acclaimed, strong-selling album and a handful of hit singles then they shouldn't be in this thread.

Nicole - no, we asked Cliff and one other member but didn't work through the whole line-up - either we didn't have the contact details or we didn't have enough time, I can't remember exactly.

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

48 : VV Brown

mark e, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh, god, elephant in the room time:

47. The Woodentops

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha. were they that hyped ?

mark e, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

46 : CHAKK - MCA funded them to build hi-tech studio/FON records etc. Sly and Robbie on production. no-one bought the album.

[but i'd still love a cd copy .. ]

mark e, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

(fwiw when i interviewed ms dynamite earlier this year, she basically said she deliberately took a few years off to be a mother, and now her son's at school she's able to devote herself full-time to music again)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is that Chakk record any good Mark? Just asking as a Moloko fan...

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

A lot of money was spent, I believe. (re: The Woodentops)

And great things were expected. So many people I knew were "this is going to be big"

But I'd say, no one liked them enough to go buy.

75% 'wanted' not enough to break the threshold.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

(i suspect that's true of many female artists who "disappeared", too; and ms dynamite also said that motherhood didn't just affect the time she could devote to her career but, w/r/t her genuine flop second album, how much she was committed to even making the music - she said she'd go into the studio and wonder how her son was instead of thinking about the music)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

re chakk : honestly. no.

the band shot their load with the early 12" records (Out of the Flesh and They Say 12") which were great distorto-funk.
but, as an album of its time, i still play the odd track when in the mood.

mark e, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

she said she'd go into the studio and wonder how her son was instead of thinking about the music

Hmm. Everyone else who has a kid and a job has to get by somehow.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

hello "Bosstown Sound"

45. Beacon Street Union
44. Ultimate Spinach
43. Orpheus

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

42. Robbie Williams (in the USA)
41. Nikka Costa

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

40. The Souther-Hillman-Furay Band

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

39. Rosie Vela.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nikka Costa's a good one. She had a ton of money thrown at her more than once iirc. What was her claim to fame again?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

38. O-Positive (1990; Epic) | "Most popular artists aren't interested in doing anything worthwhile. I don't want success on any terms. I don't care about being a guy in leather pants with no underwear. We just play what we like, we don't try to write songs for anyone else. We haven't really worried about how we're going to be received."

Imagine that.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

sophie b hawkins got the most hype ive ever seen in the uk, 3 or 4 weeks a row on top of the pops all for getting no higher than #23.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nikka Costa is the daughter of Don Costa (arranger for Sinatra etc...)

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sophie B. Hawkins is mortally otm #1.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

i just cant recall any more hype in the 90s on anyone else

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wow, no mention of?

37. Jimmy Ray

cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

its one thing being hyped up by the nme to a 100,000 readers at most, but sophie b hawkins was on adverts, every chat show, every music show, every commercial radio/r1 A playlist ,all the papers, those totps performances despite not even being in the top 20 and it still didn't crack the top 20.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ha completely forgot about Jimmy Ray - he was all over MTV for about two weeks.

seandalai, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hmm. Everyone else who has a kid and a job has to get by somehow.

well, she did get by!

polyhex says sophie b hawkins had two top 20 hits - i remember both (and still play "damn i wish i was your lover" occasionally), had no idea of the hype though! i guess it's similar to the florence & the machine hype now...always thought florence was a c-rate SBH.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

ha, speaking of F&tM, my wife is now obsessed with them/her after the VMAs this year, going so far as to call her performance the best of the evening

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

36. Max Q

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

xp: I think that there were a number of mainstread media calling f+tm the best performance of the evening too.

kkvgz, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

mainstream

kkvgz, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

lots of industrialish stuff in the wake of NIN that got sorta this treatment, but not enough hype to get them a number imo (lookin at you spahn ranch, etc.)

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

(stabbing westward & filter?)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Filter was actually successful, though

Stabbing Westward... well they had their fans

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

those were both reasonably large bands with hits, HGN.

xp

kkvgz, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Actually maybe Sister Machine Gun and/or Machines of Loving Grace are the best examples of what jjj's talking about?

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Stabbing Westward had a couple of big radio songs on the first record.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

theres a slurry of grunge/ska failures too to be mined for gold here, speaking of which

35. Goldfinger

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gravity Kills maybe? I dunno, that kind of stuff is never really hyped over here (NIN aside, obv).

xposts

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

hahaha i just remember course of empire. that didnt go well.

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol I have a Gravity Kills CD5 that I think I've played once

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

swing industrial fusion HOW CAN IT POSSIBLY FAIL xpost

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

so dan & jj fell bigtime for lol major label industrial @ college?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

this surely isn't a secret to, like, anyone?

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

nah i worked at a record shop so i got to watch it fall flat on its face over and over again

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought you guys were old enough to fall for the non-false industrial that scraped the barrel, lol

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw, I am remembering why I played my Gravity Kills single only once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8S0_DppB14

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

actually Stabbing Westward's major singles were on their second album. "Ungod" was the first one, and didn't have any. So that's even more a suggestion that the hype helped build them from unknown to MTV darlings methinks.

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

essentially the years between 1988 and 1996 were essentially one long industrial freefall combined with rave/trip-hop/new jack swing detours

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

34. Warrior Soul

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Horrible sub-par Britpop corner:

33. Northern Uproar
32. Heavy Stereo
31. Powder

Neil S, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wow, didn't know Stabbing Westward had a album before the famous one.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey no slagging off warrior soul now industrial butthurt boy!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaDsh0IZ020

um

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

i must confess, i got the 1st stabbing westward album. I have never heard a single thing that came after it. They had no hit albums here.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

what the world really needed was Queensryche set to a marching band drum cadence (xp)

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

i was actually trying to decide between warrior soul and powermad tbh

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

30. Infectious Grooves

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

can we all agree that Gravity Kills sucked

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg POWERMAD

xp: to quote Obama, YES WE CAN

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

how about Powerman 5000?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

29. The Quireboys

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

remember when it looked like Jamiroquai was going to fall into this category ;_;

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

you're reminding me of an subgenre of music I was happy to have forgotten

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

You are digging up some best buried memories here.

Engines of Aggression, ladies and gentlemen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TS_A0_2TaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLYYDtIXAwA

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

that was to Herman

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rob Halford's Two

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

xxpost -- (I saw these doofs open for Curve. An agonizing wait.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

(bonus points for the equally failed major label push on suicidal tendencies around the same time)

xxposts oh man yeah powerman 5000 is pretty good for this

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jimmy's Chicken Shack

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

28. The Von Bondies

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

wait a goddamned minute

in this Warrior Soul song did they really just say

To the rejects
Or the imperfect
To the retarded
Or the brokenhearted

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

also, how popular did Kittie actually end up becoming?

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

just as popular as they deserved to be

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

27. Mushroomhead

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Northern Uproar in twice at #60 & #33

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kittie were reasonably big (not huge or anything), but the second album did a good job of finishing them off.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

26. These Animal Men

I remember them because they were especially traumatic -- I had to miss a Red Wings play-off game to drive my sister to their concert.

(¬_¬) (Nicole), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.poplife.info/Bilder/210142.JPG

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Actually that really is a tragic cover -- all this horribleness on the page and then at the bottom 'Oh by the way Nick Cave and Rocket from the Crypt, are they any good?'

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I could write a story about my sister's groupiedom w/low-level Britpop bands, but I would probably get sued. Plus, I have a sneaking suspicion she lurks on ilx sometimes.

(¬_¬) (Nicole), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

One track off the first Stabbing Westward album was the theme tune to MTV Europe's metal show for a while.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

This one, to be precise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRphqu0lDYw&ob=av2e

Me and loads of mates had the first album.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Super Rock?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Chap> We all bought Kerrang or RAW then.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wither Blister Burn and Peel was the 2nd album.

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

anybody else remember when Melt Banana was going to take the alternative world by storm?

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haha, Metal Hammer for me. A higher standard of journalism altogether.

xposts

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd forgotten that Northern Uproar looked like such twonks.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

24 or so?) I remember from back in my one-stop days hearing about the biggest advance ever given: to Lone Justice. Think they may have sold a few records here and there but nothing to justify the million bucks or whatever it was they were handed in the mid-'80s, when that was a fair amount of money.

ellaguru, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungod

though from the review i'm guessing "Ungood" woulda been a better title.

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Metal Hammer higher standard? lol dont make me laugh. I remember they wanted to drop the "metal" from the name of the magazine as metal was very unhip in the days of alternative & nu-metal.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Double plus ungood...

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

I remember from back in my one-stop days hearing about the biggest advance ever given: to Lone Justice. Think they may have sold a few records here and there but nothing to justify the million bucks or whatever it was they were handed in the mid-'80s, when that was a fair amount of money.

I acquired a huge collection of 80s Rolling Stone magazines back when I worked at a public library and they were going to get rid of them -- there were a *lot* of articles devoted to hyping Lone Justice.

(¬_¬) (Nicole), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

chaps getting nostalgic for those vids i posted, i can tell. He's digging out his Symposium & Midget cds as we speak.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

23. Kenickie

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

26. The Flys
25. Adema
24. Oleander

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I mainly bought Metal Hammer cos it was bigger. And I must admit I'm tempted to dig out some Therapy?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Nicole, Lone Justice (specifically Maria McKee, I guess, really) had unfuckwithable L.A. credentials when that actually meant something to A&R guys. And it was of course Geffen who doled out the bucks.

ellaguru, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

23. Mink Lungs
22. Lady Sovereign

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Frickin' Lone Justice.

Some ILX talk on this thread about them a while back. Great post by Alfred following up on it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Seeing ellaguru's post about Lone Justice made me think of Johnny Winter. His Columbia contract was at the time the biggest for a new act, but--while he did alright--he probably didn't pay commercially like the next Hendrix or Clapton like they thought he would.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mind Funk

I remember them being pretty hyped - can anyone confirm?

kkvgz, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

20. Northern Line

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

i guess veruca salt belong here too?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Seether" was inescapable.

kkvgz, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mind Funk LOL OMG

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm sure there was a slew of post-Spice Girls under-performing girl groups, but I'm struggling to remember any.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Replace one Northern Uproar with The Railway Children to keep the numbering in line.

Alan McGee had a whole string of overhyped nomarks - kind of glad I can't remember any of them.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Does Velvet Revolver count?
Jesse Camp and the Lower East Side dumbasses or whatever?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

xxxp: I dunno - maybe they were good, but I saw a lot of advertisements for them and was almost convinced, but never bit the bullet.

kkvgz, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

19. Zwan

Darin, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

18. Macy Gray

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Good call on Zwan. "Billy Corgan, that chick from A Perfect Circle, some guy from an indie band--how can they lose?"

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Anyone remember the major label boyband response to Britpop called "Catch"?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

To date, Gray has released five studio albums, one compilation album, and one live album, with her fifth studio album, The Sellout, released on June 22, 2010; and has received five Grammy Award nominations, winning one. She has appeared in a number of films including Training Day, Spider-Man, Scary Movie 3, Lackawanna Blues and Idlewild.

not sure what bit of that is failing spectacularly.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

I bet even the lex doesn't
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

Catch had a truly terrible song called "Bingo" didn't they? c.1997?

Neil S, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah that's them. cant even resemble the song tbh

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

McGee and Horne could fill this whole thread with blagged flops.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33SjUj4J5BU

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

not sure what bit of that is failing spectacularly.

see e.g.

http://www.cleveland.com/homegrown/index.ssf?/homegrown/more/macy/grayarea.html

and no single has cracked the US top 100 since the debut.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost -- That is one ugly freezeframe.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Northside

(¬_¬) (Nicole), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

xxxp Ugh. That track was on what seemed like constantly when I had a summer job in an industrial laundry in Bristol. Great days.

Neil S, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

20. Northern Line

Ziggy did pretty well on Big Brother.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks Herman, I had successfully suppressed all memories of that Catch song.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

18 Wheeler (lol david keenan)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

maybe these, maybe not exactly "mega-hyped", but
17. Biff Naked
16. Fiona
15. Phranc

dude (del), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

14. Jonathan Fire*Eater

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

13. Sammy

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

12. Nellie McKay

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh God, the Medicine label.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

13. Kelly Osbourne

Aqua Buddha (herb albert), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

and no single has cracked the US top 100 since the debut.

She's had more success in Europe, where the first three albums charted well. She still gets a good bit of press when she has a new release. I can appreciate from a singles point of view that she's a one hit wonder but she's been 'successful' enough to keep doing what she does. I don't think anyone in Northern Uproar made five studio albums. Even the link you posted has her opening for Bowie 5 years after her spectacular failure.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

12. Los Lobos

dude (del), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

11. Mind Over Four

dude (del), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Northern Uproar reminded me a band i saw on the same NME tour

12 Fluffy

sonofstan, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Make that

10 Fluffy

sonofstan, Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

9. the firm (jimmy page and paul rodgers' 80s-collaboration)

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

8. 60 ft dolls

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

12. Los Lobos

? the purpose of this thread has lost me. Bands with decades of output got megahyped then failed spectacularly?

9. The Beatles - all that hype then nothing for 40 years. You don't even hear them on the radio any more.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

12. Los Lobos

? the purpose of this thread has lost me. Bands with decades of output got megahyped then failed spectacularly?

at the time rolling stone, other american music press made them out to be the best rock'n'roll band in america, blah blah blah. in contrast to how much they were hyped, what avg person would know any of their output other than the la bamba cover?

dude (del), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Los Lobos became a long lasting cult band, which is more than you can say for Lone Justice or other similarly-hyped peers.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

May as well rename the thread 'one hit wonders' if we're going to write off decades running artists as failures because they had a hit. I thought we were looking for something else here. Los Lobos were active for over ten years before La Bamba and are still active more than 20 years later.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Did Kix have a long lasting successful career?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think of lone justice as being more of a cult band than i do los lobos

dude (del), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm thinking levels of failure as commensurate to levels of hype

los lobos just a one hit wonder if they hadn't been heralded at the time as second coming of "real" american rock'n'roll

dude (del), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

afaict this thread pretty much instantly devolved into 'hey let's just name some bands we remember from when we were teens' so I wouldn't really sweat it xp to onimo

Heurelho Gomes & The Scene (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Faust. From the point of view of Polydor who were convinced they had the new Beatles and Virgin who must have lost a lot of money on The Faust Tapes.

Duran (Doran), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Faith No More, after that one hit "Epic" what happened? where did they go? who talked about them? NOBODY. screw this whole "being around for 10 years or more and being in the rock canon", THEY WER UNSUKXUCKESSFUL

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

(sadly there are people I know who have said the above about FNM!)

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

i bet the los lobos dudes own really nice houses

my balls and my nerds (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

...that Paul Simon claims ownership of.

Sterling, Cooper, Nash & Young (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

hahaha Kelly Osbourne pretty much owns this thread

bang (HI DERE), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Melody Maker, Jul 1972

The Faust Tapes, Virgin's cheap album currently at number 18 in the MM chart will be deleted on July 20. Reason? Well, it was too popular.

At 48p a go, the album costs more to produce than the price it sells for. So, on 60,000 sales Virgin have already LOST £2,000. Such are the crazy economics of the business... or so they say.

fit and working again, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Carly Hennessy

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kenna?

goole, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

if you can malcolm gladwell as 'megahype'

goole, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

er, if you can count

goole, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

From Fluffy's Wikipedia page: "The band was regularly featured in several magazines; Kerrang, Q, Select, Melody Maker[1] and NME. They also appeared on several UK television shows, including Top of the Pops, The Big Breakfast and Hotel Babylon."

Chart positions:

"Husband" (1996) Parkway - UK #58
"Nothing" (1996) The Enclave - UK #52

Ouch.

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kenickie had all that too but I think they did get a few top 40 singles.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

That Bingo track isn't half bad.

skip, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I loved that Catch song at the time. Normally I hate 'so bad it's good', but you just had to admire the way they managed to encapsulate so much that is reprehensible in a career that only lasted one song.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

I owned and listened to CDs by Stabbing Westward, Filter, Gravity Kills, and Goldfinger, though it was obvious at the time that Goldfinger kind of sucked. There were a bunch of hypey punk revival bands like Millencolin that came and went -- who would have thought that the Blink-182 of "M&Ms" would be the one to hit it big. Portions of 1994-1995 were pretty ugly looking back on it.

skip, Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Carly Hennessy

― kornrulez6969, Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:33 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

was waiting for this one. she was a huuuuuuuuuge bust before appearing on Idol.

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Coal Chamber

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was thinking anything-post-Zep-involving-Jimmy-Page, but it seemed like the first Firm album did well.

The Egg!
And that mid-90s band with the astronauts on the cover!

Excluding Skits and Such (Eazy), Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

can i just give a shout out to nerf herder

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 September 2010 20:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

from an aussie perspective: Mandy Kane. upwards of $70K on an album that sold pathetically (i picked it up for $5 in the sale bin on its WEEK OF RELEASE)

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Friday, 24 September 2010 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

los lobos are totally not failures by any stretch

Muscus ex Craneo Humano (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 September 2010 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

if you can still play carnegie hall, you're really not a spectacular failure

Muscus ex Craneo Humano (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 September 2010 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Deaf School? You are mad. If by 'hyped' you mean that anybody outside of the UK 76-79 ever heard of them, you are incorrect. If by 'failed spectacularly' you mean they didn't make three endlessly enjoyable albums that I still listen to frequently, then you are delusional and incorrect. If you mean they never got the acclaim and popularity they deserved, you are quite right.

Dear Deaf School, I love you for all eternity. RIP Eric Shark.

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 24 September 2010 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

What a way to end it all.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 September 2010 02:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Frickin' Lone Justice.

Some ILX talk on this thread about them a while back. Great post by Alfred following up on it.

Wow -- thanks! It's amazing how much The Industry had invested in them.

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 September 2010 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

If you mean they never got the acclaim ...

... is the point of this thread.

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 06:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

7. Northern State
6. Barbara Manning

^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 September 2010 06:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Barbara Manning got megahyped and failed spectacularly?

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 September 2010 06:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

i know that they had a vague hit and all, but jesus the level of hype + the lack of return of luscious jackson as the beastie boys but oh wait THEY LADIES fits for my own definiton

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Friday, 24 September 2010 07:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

5 : regular fries

a lot of money. a lot of hype.
some great records (imho of course).
total lack of sales.

cornelius hope, the bands spokesperson a few years back :

"alas, such chaos has meant that labels are even more straight-laced now in the wake of the Fries legendary million pound debts…"

mark e, Friday, 24 September 2010 07:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

4. Blue Mercedes

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 08:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ wasn't their album called Rich and Famous or something?

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 08:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

3. Bif Naked

the who cares (okamax), Friday, 24 September 2010 08:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

2. The Parkinsons (jesus fucking christ)

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Friday, 24 September 2010 08:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

From Fluffy's Wikipedia page: "The band was regularly featured in several magazines; Kerrang, Q, Select, Melody Maker[1] and NME. They also appeared on several UK television shows, including Top of the Pops, The Big Breakfast and Hotel Babylon."

Chart positions:

"Husband" (1996) Parkway - UK #58
"Nothing" (1996) The Enclave - UK #52

Ouch.

I don't recall Fluffy's hype being particularly memorable or mega, they just seemed like another London scenester band who got coverage because they socialised w/ppl from MM and NME, I dunno.

I have "Husband" and another one of their singles (checks that shitipedia page) "Hypersonic", I think they were 50p each. Classics, both of them, "Husband" is fierce!

Pashmina, Friday, 24 September 2010 08:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Spacehog? A no.1 out of the gates, of course, but I think they must have got turned into glue shortly afterwards.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 24 September 2010 08:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

And that mid-90s band with the astronauts on the cover!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Smartsleeper.jpg
Sleeper

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Friday, 24 September 2010 08:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sleeper? Failed?

Hmpf.

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 09:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

16 Sleeper Inbetweener Single Jan 1995
5 Sleeper Smart Album Feb 1995
33 Sleeper Vegas Single Apr 1995
14 Sleeper What Do I Do Now Single Oct 1995
10 Sleeper Sale Of The Century Single May 1996
5 Sleeper The It Girl Album May 1996
10 Sleeper Nice Guy Eddie Single Jul 1996
17 Sleeper Statuesque Single Oct 1996
28 Sleeper She's A Good Girl Single Oct 1997
7 Sleeper Pleased To Meet You Album Oct 1997
39 Sleeper Romeo Me Single Dec 1997

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 09:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

They didn't fail and they weren't hyped much either, other bands at the time were far more hyped

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 09:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Right, the final place should go to a band/artist that's being megahyped RIGHT NOW that are doomed to fail.

Drumroll keith!

(that's not the name of a band/artist btw)

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 09:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

2. The Parkinsons (jesus fucking christ)

Totally forgot all about them - saw them supporting someone (Freeheat maybe) at King Tut's and they were fucking appalling. Dude tried to climb up on the speaker stack with his guitar but the ceiling was so low he couldn't really fit so he had to leave his guitar then squeeze into the wee gap then get someone to pass it up to him - kinda lost the moment you know? First and only time I ever saw a literal embarrassing climbdown.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 09:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Symposium probably fit in here too.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 24 September 2010 09:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

the silence is deafening (i struggled to think of any current it name hype games .. )

which i guess leads to the question - are labels bank rolling full scale hype programs these days ?

mark e, Friday, 24 September 2010 10:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Or possibly hype works better than it used to

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thesedays, it seems the hype machine spends money on what's already got some sort of posfeedback.

OK, I got one good enough for the current situ:

1. Sandi Thom.

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 10:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

She was born too late to a world that doesn't care

ledge, Friday, 24 September 2010 10:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh hang on .. who is that person who did all those viral videos that people believed were X-tina ?

as from the evidence so far, the whole thing seems to have totally failed.

mark e, Friday, 24 September 2010 10:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

There was an act around 1990 who got hyped to the extreme by his own label. Sony Music had seemingly decided they wanted to turn Halo James into a megastar. It ended up in one minor-to-medium-sized hit in "Could Have Told You So" and then nothing else ever.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

As for bands that got mega-hyped by critics but never had any commercial success to speak of, I guess you could namecheck almost the entire Paisley Underground scene of the mid-to-late 80s.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, it's like any "scene", the bands that emerged and succeeded tend to be forgotten as "that's where they came from"...

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 10:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

I remember a fair amount of 'the next Smiths??' style hyping going on in the NME, some bands I recall being on the receiving end were people like Easterhouse, Gene, The Railway Children & James.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh and The Primitives, The Motorcycle Boy. All it took was for Moz to wear one of your t-shirts or praise you in an interview.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

97. Freur AKA "Elephant with a stick of rhubarb" AKA "that dumb squiggle logo band"

I had a couple of this lot's singles as well, "Doot-doot" (which was pretty bad, but was a nice picture disc) and "Matters of the Heart", which was a great 12" single, the b-side was this weird techno-metal thing that ~I liked a lot, and there were a couple of weird little instrumentals as well, one of them being a brief blast of bleak, hawkwindish noise. I wish I still had it. In the long-term, maybe it worked for them, Underworld did pretty well I think?

Swansway and Hayzee Fantayzee come to mind - they were both unbiquitous in the music press for a while, HF had I think one minor hit, Swansway not even that that I remember.

xp bourgie bourgie I remember getting abit on next-smiths hype in MM, but not megahype really.

Pashmina, Friday, 24 September 2010 10:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thought of Swansway, and also of Scarlet Fantastic, who they became

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Cranes got a fair amount of hype in MM I recall, 'this summer's coolest band' along with odd insinuations of child-abuse and Alison & Jim's odd-childhood (forget details)

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I remember a fair amount of 'the next Smiths??' style hyping going on in the NME, some bands I recall being on the receiving end were people like Easterhouse, Gene, The Railway Children & James.

Also there was Bradford and Raymonde

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Were Love & Money successful?

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

aw man don't lump the poor Primitives in with this lot :(

I liked the Motorcycle Boy too but they're the perfect fit for this thread.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh shit Raymonde! Ha

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Swansway had "Soul Train", which was pretty good.

Hipsway certainly belong on this.

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 10:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Love + Money had a hit or two. As did Hipsway. That was the period when bands in Glasgow were only allowed to write songs with Sugar, Candy or Honey in the title (see JaMC).

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

What was the name of the band with Thom Yorke's brother in, named after a film I think.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Unbelieveable Truth

Flint Baths (useless chamber), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Love and Money were successful enough to hang around for years making records for the same audience. Maybe I thought they were more successful than they actually were because of their prominence in and around Glasgow.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Texas came along and made all those bands redundant (not to mention embittered + resentful)

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Getting unpleasant flashbacks of people like The Big Dish and The Silencers here.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 10:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

In terms of post-Nirvana major label cash hemmorhaging, Jonathan Fire*Eater probably had the most high-profile trajectory of "a MILLION dollar contract --> total flop album --> drugs --> cautionary tale --> obscure footnote." It's a really great album, though.

Even at the time, it almost seemed like the majors already knew not to bother spending the marketing cash on the many other big WTF post-grungexsplosion signings (Drive Like Jehu, Helmet, Jawbox, Shudder to Think, etc. etc.)

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 24 September 2010 10:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Everyhit brings nothing for Love and Money.

Hipsway:

17 Hipsway The Honeythief Feb 1986

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Candybar Express" not a hit?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

(see what I mean about Candy/Honey/Sugar?)

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.btinternet.com/~birdpoo/images/pupplp01.jpg

Stevie T, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've got that album somewhere!

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

from Love and Money's wikipedia page - "hits" in this case meaning between #50 and #75

In their nine years together they recorded four moderately successful albums, three of which were released in the United States, and had six chart hits in the United Kingdom.[2]

Singles

"Candybar Express" (1986) UK #56
"Dear John" (1986)
"River of People" (1987)
*Love & Money" (1987) UK #68
"Halleluiah Man" (1988) UK #63
"Strange Kind of Love" (1989) UK #45
"Jocelyn Square" (1989) UK #51
"Up Escalator (1989)"
"Winter" (1991) UK #52
"My Love Lives in a Dead House" (1991)
"Wishing Waters EP" (1991)
"Last Ship on the River" (1994)

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Strange kind of love" the only one I could hum you.

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

So, what positions did those moderately successful albums get to?

Mark G, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Not exactly setting the heather on fire there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Looking at the wikipedia page, it looks like the record company tried everything they could launch them, but not one top 40 hit. Support slots for U2, Simply Red & Tina Turner, appearances on the Wogan TV show etc...

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

iirc 'Candybar Express' mentions both sugar and candy in the chorus.

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

James Grant couldn't sing and wasn't very good looking - no competition for Sharleen Spiteri basically

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

So, what positions did those moderately successful albums get to?

Their first album didn't chart. I'd be surprised if any of the others reached higher than the arse end of the top 40. 'Dogs in the Traffic' was 30th in the Scotsman's top 100 Scottish albums thing that I think we discussed on ILM at one point.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Did Jonathan Fire*Eater srsly have seven figures chucked at them?? That seems like next level madness if that's true. In the UK they were exactly as big as you'd expect ie a cult band who had a good rep among indie kids and got played on the Evening Session (think Lamacq released their records in fact?)

Heurelho Gomes & The Scene (DJ Mencap), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Did Jonathan Fire*Eater srsly have seven figures chucked at them??

That was the story:

In early 1997, Jonathan Fire*Eater signed with David Geffens nascent Dreamworks music label. It was a million dollar contract with unusual clauses including full creative control for the band and a generous dental plan for their nearly toothless manager Walter Durkacz.

The front man had a big drug habit and the band collapsed, but (most of) the rest of the band put the money into their own studio (and re-formed as The Walkmen).

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/101581.jpg

^ remember seeing these cocknozzles all over Smash Hits when I was a kid. Never heard a note though.

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whozat?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

The mighty Drum Theatre

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

It was a good era for preening buffoons in post-'Wild Boys' pyjamas

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Detective

henry s, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

were Das Psych-Oh Rangers hyped?

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 12:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

2x Hayzee Fantayzee + self-promotional linkidge

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 24 September 2010 13:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Managed a couple of hits though, and Jeremy Healy has been pretty successful since.

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, two big hits in the UK, which is twice as many as Toto Coelo ever had.

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Gufs

Remedial Thug Motivation (San Te), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Tin Machine?

My glowbo's ain't half itchy (NickB), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oy Vey, Baby still boggles the mind.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 24 September 2010 13:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Radish! Another group what got tons of money thrown at them by Mercury. Think Ben Kweller saved a little bit of it, maybe and has ended up making a few records that for some reason sound nothing like Radish.

ellaguru, Friday, 24 September 2010 15:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh, ellaguru! I've been trying to think of them ever since I remembered Symposium being on the NME 'bratbus' tour (lol). I bought the Radish album...I...I dunno...

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

wait, did anyone mention Vanessa Hudgens?

bang (HI DERE), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess Disney is guilty of spending money on people whose talents they later shifted - Lohan? Panetierre, Duff etc.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey onimo you remember Slide and The River Detectives?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

shitloads of these shitbands got hyped by billy sloan/daily record/sunday mail. Each one shitter than the last.
Love & Money were by far the worst.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

The mighty Drum Theatre

Was about to mention them. "Eldorado" was actually a great pop song. But surely no hit. Not that one either.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 24 September 2010 15:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

I saw Slide a couple of times supporting people at the Barrowlands, can't remember what they sounded like.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey onimo you remember Slide and The River Detectives?

shit yes :(

I think I saw the Silencers once, supporting The Alarm maybe.

meta the devil you know (onimo), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

billy sloan really had a malign influence on scottish music

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

lots of youtubing from this thread the last couple days and it's apparent why the vast majority of these bands failed spectacularly...

skip, Friday, 24 September 2010 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nancy Boy.

paulhw, Friday, 24 September 2010 20:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dan Reed Network

nope (Zachary Taylor), Friday, 24 September 2010 21:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

In terms of post-Nirvana major label cash hemmorhaging, Jonathan Fire*Eater probably had the most high-profile trajectory of "a MILLION dollar contract --> total flop album --> drugs --> cautionary tale --> obscure footnote." It's a really great album, though.

You forgot the absolute nadir of the trajectory:

Million dollar contract --> total flop album --> drugs --> cautionary tale --> obscure footnote --> The Walkmen.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 01:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

that Bingo by Catch is incredible, it's like the Motherbanger of Britpop

Underground - Parking (2010) (sic), Saturday, 25 September 2010 06:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh ILY ilxor. Madly.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh man, there was this band called Zeno who apparently had a "million pound deal" (whatever that actually means) with EMI around 1986. They made it to the front cover of Kerrang, the album flopped and everyone had forgotten about them 2 weeks later. The main guy was Uli Jon Roth's brother btw, didn't help much though. Here's what they sounded like :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrB_kuXuiPU

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Would Pink Lady qualify for this thread?

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

was that Jonathan Fire Eater album ever any good?

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 September 2010 12:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought so. Better than the Walkmen, which might be damning them with faint praise.

Neil S, Saturday, 25 September 2010 13:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

In fairness, though, 99% of bands are better than the Walkmen...

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

O-Town

corey, Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Atanas

(this will make sense only to the Detroiters out there)

henry s, Saturday, 25 September 2010 14:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised no one mentioned Terence Trent D'Arby. He was mega successful during his first album run, then went bat shit crazy afterwards. Even changed his name to something horrible.

lilsoulbrother, Saturday, 25 September 2010 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought of mentioning him, but then i thought maybe his was more a case of self-hyping? also iirc i think there is big ilx love for him, and given the way ppl reacted when i tried to suggest los lobos, listing terence might have resulted in death threats

dude (del), Saturday, 25 September 2010 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Saigon
The Replacements (Don't Tell a Soul era--Remember the "Last Best Band of the 80s" ads?)

Drastic times require what? Drastic measures! Who said that? T (President Keyes), Sunday, 26 September 2010 02:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Would Pink Lady qualify for this thread?

I'm not really comfortable listing them given how popular they were in their native Japan.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 26 September 2010 03:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

xxxxpost to pfunkboy,

Did Kix have a long lasting successful career?
, I don't know, but the question got me thinking. I remember the first time I became aware of that band.

First there was a late period rock radio, pre-MTV domination moment where "Body Talk" got some airplay. Then I worked with a guy who was ex-army and possibly east coast origin that unironically loved Kix. By that I mean in his Mustang, he had multiple Kix tapes. A few years later, they had one of their biggest hits,and, unrelated I started reading a prominent writer upping their stuff.

I don't know. It was cool to read about someone hyping a band I liked but barely knew, and that band had big fans, and the big moment was really good.

(barely related) - When Johnny Cougar acts like a tired old man, I want to tell him "Shit dude, you are rich. We bought your records and those suits ripped you off. You are better off than Kix, but Kix rocked too. They got paid and still exist in some form. Just like the Johnny Cougar band. Why are you dragging me."

So Kix, were small time famous, and got full label push once or twice, but they earned it with fan base, and people that like them after the fact, just kind of get off on rockin out etc.

very similar to Kula Shaker.

nope (Zachary Taylor), Sunday, 26 September 2010 07:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Cherie

And here's more on Carly Hennessy

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 26 September 2010 08:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ryan Adams?

he didn't "fail spectacularly" but he was heavily hyped as the hope of cornball mainstream rock - call him the Lone Justice of the early 2000s

they sell FUCKTONS of records! (m coleman), Sunday, 26 September 2010 12:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised no one mentioned Terence Trent D'Arby. He was mega successful during his first album run,

.. and you have just answered yr own surprise, as TTD didn't ..

.. oh I suppose he did 'fail' megaspectacularly, but then he did succeed megaspec as well...

Mark G, Sunday, 26 September 2010 13:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

I kinda wonder if there will be anymore attempts to hype artists like Ryan Adams or Lone Justice- plucked from a scene with a little bit of following and momentum, then hairsprayed into a mainstream package. Either could have dawdled in the roots rock scene for as a modest career, but they ended up with neither credibility nor huge sales. Seems like big labels either wait for acts to develop everything on their own, or an act is cultivated in-house from the start now.

bendy, Sunday, 26 September 2010 13:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

but Terence Trent D'Arby was really only a failure in the USA (and he was a failure after the "wishing well" record) ... i understand he was pretty big in some European countries right?!?

Ed Kranepool borrow Chico Escuela's soap and never give it back (Eisbaer), Sunday, 26 September 2010 14:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

lone justice were kinda dull, and ryan adams is kind of a douche. that might have had as much to do w/ why neither act really became huge.

Ed Kranepool borrow Chico Escuela's soap and never give it back (Eisbaer), Sunday, 26 September 2010 14:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ryan Adams also didn't help his cause by releasing like 27 albums a year.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 26 September 2010 15:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://posterscene.com/images/items/full/vandyke1.jpg

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 26 September 2010 15:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I had always heard that Bob Marley's initial attempts to break America (circa Catch a Fire and Burnin') were huge hype failures for Island Records, but the only real hint I could find was this original Rolling Stone review of Live!, which was released a couple years later and has the same attitude. "Whom does Island expect to buy records like this?" Ha!

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 26 September 2010 15:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

"every time i plant a seed, he said 'kill them before they grow'" indeed!

Ed Kranepool borrow Chico Escuela's soap and never give it back (Eisbaer), Sunday, 26 September 2010 15:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

VH1 and CMT are full successful acts that are dull and douchey, though. Just not ones that own X albums.

bendy, Sunday, 26 September 2010 15:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ryan Adams may not have ended up a mainstream rock saviour, but he sells out 2,000 seat venues here in ATX to an absolutely rabid fanbase. I'd hardly say that's a failure.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Sunday, 26 September 2010 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

whats that 'how we lost £35,509.50 on the album of the year' thing?

NI, Sunday, 26 September 2010 21:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

$ sorry

NI, Sunday, 26 September 2010 21:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

voxtrot!!

markers, Sunday, 26 September 2010 21:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://vandykeparks.com/miscfiles/musician852.html

skip, Sunday, 26 September 2010 21:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Tangentially related plus I wanted to vent about this wasteman article from yesterday, opinion4u-based URL onwards: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/flavour-of-the-week-will-our-obsession-with-newness-finish-fledgling-bands-careers-before-they-have-even-started-2086665.html

really glad to be lectured about supposedly ever-decreasing hype cycles by a dude who immediately goes on to proudly relate how his job consists of looking at the same MP3 blogs as every other cunt out there and selecting the exact same buzzbands to briefly highlight

I ain't that kind of player I just foul a lot (DJ Mencap), Monday, 27 September 2010 14:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Some to add:

Nymphs - In early 90s, some were convinced that they were gonna be huge, or at least Janes Addiction-style huge. Flop.

Hothouse Flowers - To an extent, anyhow. The first album was a classic case of shipped gold and returned platinum, with the record label insistent that they were going to be the next U2 while the public was all "Whooo??" I guess they found a dedicated audience that was smaller than anticipated so they probably don't count.

Transvision Vamp - These guys were gonna be huge. So far as I can remember the album flopped bigtime.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 27 September 2010 22:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha Nymphs fucked up when Inger Lorre took a piss on the desk of the MD of their record label.

Man I remember them in Kerrang & Raw all the time, not even thought about them in 15 years.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 September 2010 22:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

transvision vamp were huge in australia

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Monday, 27 September 2010 23:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

(and also kinda underrated these days - the first album belongs alongside the primitives and darling buds as great buzzsaw pop records)

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Monday, 27 September 2010 23:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

I somehow have two Transvision Vamp albums but remember nothing of them now other than the singles.

ailsa, Monday, 27 September 2010 23:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

i remember wendy james

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 27 September 2010 23:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

first album was successful enough generally, wasn't it? then they fell off so hard that the third album was ONLY released in Australia, where it also flopped

♫ Ba-sic space, o-pen air ♪ (sic), Monday, 27 September 2010 23:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha Nymphs fucked up when Inger Lorre took a piss on the desk of the MD of their record label.

These days the only way they could fuck up by doing that is by not shooting video of it and then posting it on YouTube!

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 00:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bis? Iirc they hit their high point in terms of visibility before they released anything (their TOTP performance).

Also, while we're repping failed "next U2s of the 80s": In Tua Nua.

seandalai, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 00:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

before they released anything (their TOTP performance).

not really true, they had 3 singles out by that point, including the secret vampire soundtrack 45 which is what they were on TOTP in support of

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 00:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh man i missed the end of the countdown so i missed out on adding:

Big Pig
Saigon Kick
Enuff Z'nuff

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 00:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Transvision Vamp - These guys were gonna be huge. So far as I can remember the album flopped bigtime.

They did have a number of hits. Plus they are also one of the most important influences on more recent teenybopper punkpop.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 00:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

re Bis: and a split on a Spanish label iirc?

♫ Ba-sic space, o-pen air ♪ (sic), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

quite a few of the recent examples saw dece success in non UK/US markets tho. bis were colossal in japan for a while, big pig had a top 5 album and a handful of hit singles in Aus (though the album probably didn't do much better than 100k overall)

the acuarela one wasn't a split but they did a split on guided missile (or was it slampt) too i think

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

last bit xpost obv

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

whoops no, got confused: first single was on an actual spanish label, split (4-ways!) was on a UK label with a we no speak americano name

x-post too! split was on Ché

♫ Ba-sic space, o-pen air ♪ (sic), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

ah yes

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

"buy Intendo CD from CDNow"

solitary links that effortlessly sum up the late '90s

♫ Ba-sic space, o-pen air ♪ (sic), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rubber Rodeo

ti, I drink with jam and lewis (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm always suprised US ppl even mention Big Pig - they were known of outide of Oz? What next, Boom Crash Opera, big in Hungaria?

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 01:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

God, I do remember Drum Theatre though, haha. I had "Eldorado" taped off the telly, thought it was awesomepants, then they disappered from sight.

But then again I was an Alarm fan so what would I know.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Transvision Vamp - These guys were gonna be huge. So far as I can remember the album flopped bigtime.

They did have a number of hits. Plus they are also one of the most important influences on more recent teenybopper punkpop.

Guessing this is a regional thing, what with Jim telling of their Australian success as well. Over here in North America I think they sputtered out almost immediately after a pretty big push.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Both Big Pig and Boom Crash Opera got some play in Canada...not tons, but they got a release and some attention. Also there seemed to be a very short-lived "hey look at this!" about Weddings Parties Anything.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

their very last single (if looks could kill) has been recently resurrected for tv commercial music here too, i'm sure that's making a buck or two for mr sayer

xpost

deep-fried cigarette (electricsound), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

wavves

fennel cartwright, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 08:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

I wish I grew up with those 60's/70's full page record release ads with lot's of text and witty (but often sexist) hyperbole.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 08:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

like that "Wouldn't you like to "Rip her to shreds" " sort of thing?

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 09:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Please stop talking about Big Pig

moley, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 09:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

XP Mark, more like this
http://posterscene.com/images/items/full/jonifull.jpg

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 10:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Although I doubt if what is written there is witty. My point being that it's something that isn't done anymore. I wonder if the record companies got straight-up ad agencies to do their work.

disastrous sixth series (MaresNest), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 10:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

See, I sort of think it's a shame that there aren't any Music Newspapers anymore.

Back when, it was 'black and white' like it was The Times, or something.

Now, they're just magazines with thinner paper, just about.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 10:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

(and also kinda underrated these days - the first album belongs alongside the primitives and darling buds as great buzzsaw pop records)

Transvision Vamp, Darling Buds, and the Primitives would be an amazing nostalgia tour. I would book them for my county fair in a heartbeat.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 01:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

PAS/CAL, heard of 'em?

salem witch bile (Tape Store), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 06:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Guessing this is a regional thing, what with Jim telling of their Australian success as well. Over here in North America I think they sputtered out almost immediately after a pretty big push.

Regional as in making it big in the UK and then the rest of the Western World outside America following:

UK singles chart stats are as follows:

5 Transvision Vamp I Want Your Love Jun 1988
30 Transvision Vamp Revolution Baby Sep 1988
3 Transvision Vamp Baby I Don't Care Apr 1989
15 Transvision Vamp The Only One Jun 1989
14 Transvision Vamp Landslide Of Love Aug 1989
22 Transvision Vamp Born To Be Sold Nov 1989
30 Transvision Vamp (I Just Wanna) B With U Apr 1991

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

But I think there are a lot of examples of acts being hugely hyped in the US and still not making the US market, yes. Robbie Williams, for starters?

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 12:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Soft Pack

THE RAPTURE

chrisv2010, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 13:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

next U2s: might Diesel Park West count?

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 14:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

THE RAPTURE

Not quite, I think they received quite a bit of indie love.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

For a bit, but what now.

chrisv2010, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

I still wouldn't call it "failed spectacularly."

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Grant Lee Buffalo

MyFatherWillGuideMeUpARopeToYourMum (MaresNest), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

your right....agreed.

chrisv2010, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 15:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

a possible current contender : Hurts

mark e, Friday, 1 October 2010 14:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

re chakk : honestly. no.

the band shot their load with the early 12" records (Out of the Flesh and They Say 12") which were great distorto-funk.
but, as an album of its time, i still play the odd track when in the mood.

― mark e, Thursday, 23 September 2010 16:11 (1 year ago)

just to contradict myself.

the final CHAKK 12" that they released themselves on FON post MCA chaos, 'Time Bomb' was fucking amazing.
just wanted to set the record straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBctZrz-5s

mark e, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:05 (six years ago) Permalink

is grime a band

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:25 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaa

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:26 (six years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

voxtrot!!

― markers, Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:07 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That EP is still eerily good for a band that never did anything else.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:17 (one year ago) Permalink

They’re like my favorite band that doesn’t really exist.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Guardian is still hyping up The Horrors and people stopped paying attention more than a decade ago.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 06:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Personally I hyped THE BOOKS so hard a decade ago and so did Pitchfork and several other indie zines but it never worked like it should have. Their 3 most famous albums where in so many top 10 EOY lists and yet it seems like most people forgot about them. They should be huge but they ended up disbanding and being a cult underground band to discover in 20 years when indie + folktronica goes through a reappreciation phase.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I’d argue Arcade Fire and Sigur Ros fall in this description. After Funeral and Agaetis Byrjun had everyone charmed in the early 00s, it seems like they’ve both experienced diminishing returns and they haven’t received the same loving consensus ever since.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Mum is another one which I remember was super hyped 15 years or so ago and I can’t remember the last one I read or heard anything about them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:09 (one year ago) Permalink

holy shit @ Voxtrot i haven't thought about them in at least a decade

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:12 (one year ago) Permalink

Some artists which I remember sold big and got good reviews but their next record was a massive failure and failed to get any single any airplay.

Duffy, MGMT, Klaxons, MIKA.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:14 (one year ago) Permalink

Possibly, but they have had their time in the sun, and quite possibly will do more. xpost really Arcade Fire

This was more about hyped up bands/artists that did not hit, but I'm guessing we've done those, and a side order of 'bands that pissed it away' is also good.

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:15 (one year ago) Permalink

I just came in here to see how long it took before someone mentioned Terris. Not long, I see!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Franz Ferdinand and The Strokes could qualify too even though they can still fill stadiums. Their second albums could be considered massive failures after the debuts were filled with potential singles.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:18 (one year ago) Permalink

The Fabulous Somethings?

They had a single 'If she doesn't smile, it'll rain' which everybody loved but they did nothing else. It seemed like they were so objectionable to their label that they got shown the door, and nobody else took them for similar reasons.

Or something

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:19 (one year ago) Permalink

no way this thread was made for Voxtrot

what about Times New Viking

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Black Dice too. There was a time when Animal Collectibe and them were like the coolest most hyped indie acts from NYC. Animal Collective are a household name now but Black Dice are a dark reference nowadays.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:22 (one year ago) Permalink

A good way to find these bands is to google the posters for Coachella or Primavera sound or whatever festival from 10+ years ago. The bigger the letters and the least you know who they are 10 years later, the more they’ve failed.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Are people just missing the point of the thread now?

Ah, I see Mark G already said it.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Like for example Coachella 2012 had 3 main acts: Radiohead, Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg, and Black Keys. The last popular single I heard from Black Keys is ‘lonely boy’ from 2011 and I only know an album from them. I’ve no idea if they’re even active anymore.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah sorry I deviated the original thread a bit but it seems pointless to start a new thread to expose a similar sort of phenomenon. Spontaneous self combustion vs slow burns.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:34 (one year ago) Permalink

ctrl-f 'Razorlight' 0 results!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Black Dice didn't live up to their indie potential like Sonic Youth didn't live up to their commercial potential. still doesnt fit itt

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:44 (one year ago) Permalink

bands that are still active after the hype has long gone (cf. deerhoof, xiu xiu, black dice) don't count. i saw deerhoof play to 50 people max a couple months ago and it was so depressing, they're still great

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:45 (one year ago) Permalink

ditto for xiu xiu who i saw play a sold out 300 cap room in april and play to 30 people in the same room in september

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:46 (one year ago) Permalink

They're hardly "failing spectacularly" though. They've found their audience, are still up to inventive things.

Sigur Ros def have an audience but are an example of a band that went the U2 route: somewhere along the way they decided to stop evolving and make the same music over and over again. (and no, this was def not the case with the first three recs).

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:50 (one year ago) Permalink

right, i'm not saying those bands are Voxtots. but Sigur Ros isn't either

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 07:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Nah true. Artists and band who come to a grinding halt creatively and just keep doing what they're doing are an interesting diversion of the theme though. I loved the first two albums of Heather Nova, and recently googled her: turns out she's still touring, still making the same music. You'll never read a review again but she's just doing her thing I suppose.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 08:09 (one year ago) Permalink

Franz Ferdinand and The Strokes could qualify too even though they can still fill stadiums.

Franz Ferdinand played an 1100 capacity room tonight. I saw them two years as part of FFS, playing a 1350 cap room. Neither were sold out.

The Strokes haven't played a headline in 17 months, and that was in an 1800-seater/2300 standing venue.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 09:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Animal Collective are a household name now

They made a song about wanting a household, certainly.

nashwan, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 10:41 (one year ago) Permalink

What about The Woodentops?

They seemed to get pushed hard everywhere I went back then, and it was the sort of thing I should like, but.. mmmm... no.

Even bought the album! The singles were the sorts of things I liked for three plays and then never wanted to hear again.

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:26 (one year ago) Permalink

(don't click. couldn't find non daily mail entire story in url link)

Monogo doesn't socialise (ledge), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Personally I hyped THE BOOKS so hard a decade ago and so did Pitchfork and several other indie zines but it never worked like it should have. Their 3 most famous albums where in so many top 10 EOY lists and yet it seems like most people forgot about them. They should be huge but they ended up disbanding and being a cult underground band to discover in 20 years when indie + folktronica goes through a reappreciation phase.

I remember hearing the name everywhere from 02 to 05. given the sort of music they made I'd say they made off quite well. what was disappointing was seeing their final album get lukewarm reviews. I thought it was quite good. but yea, taking 5 years off was probably not the best move

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:28 (one year ago) Permalink

How about Datarock, about 2 years after their first album they started getting all sorts of positive attention, slotting in with the whole LCD/DFA thing that was taking off in the mid-00s. I remember hearing "Fa-Fa-Fa" everywhere for a while. Their second album came and tanked hard (undeservedly, imo), they did a big international tour and did alright but not great. And they haven't really been seen since.

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:32 (one year ago) Permalink

The Fabulous Somethings?

They had a single 'If she doesn't smile, it'll rain' which everybody loved but they did nothing else. It seemed like they were so objectionable to their label that they got shown the door, and nobody else took them for similar reasons.

Fantastic Something - two Greek brothers, iirc. Their album was "quite good"

mahb, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:42 (one year ago) Permalink

What about The Woodentops?
They seemed to get pushed hard everywhere I went back then, and it was the sort of thing I should like, but.. mmmm... no.
Even bought the album! The singles were the sorts of things I liked for three plays and then never wanted to hear again.
― Mark G,

see your own posts upthread.

was listening to their boxset just last week, still love'em (mainly just the on-u remixes these days).

mark e, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:55 (one year ago) Permalink

Datarock is otm

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Wet

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

Woodentops should be in the thread for bands that shed all their interesting elements whenever a major label got them in a studio.

everything, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:13 (one year ago) Permalink

In 2007 I saw Blonde Redhead in primavera festival for like 30 people and it made me sad for them. There were thousands of people at the festival at that time so it wasn’t a lack of people just a lack of interest.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Does Ashley Simpson fit itt?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Hmm yes, though perhaps with an asterisk, because being remembered for a major performance disaster =/= being hyped and then completely forgotten, with no defining or memorable event.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:26 (one year ago) Permalink

She was being hyped as this Avril Lavigne/ Pink punk-ish pop star and after the playback fiasco and her reaction her career went to hell.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh I see.

Then how about Kelly Clarkson?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:27 (one year ago) Permalink

I still can't get over Voxtrot. this is the new New Jersey thread.

how about EAR PWR?
carpetbaggers from NC moved to Baltimore at the height of Dan Deacon/Ponytail/Ecstatic Sunshine/neon rock, got signed to Carpark, went nowhere. maybe High Places too? altho they were around a lil longer and decent imo.

xp Kelly Clarkson? she's one of the most well known popstars of the last 15 years, just put something new out, did a major press tour, has an enduring hit... doesn't fit at all

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:29 (one year ago) Permalink

there seems to be a great deal of confusion about what the words "megahyped" and "failed spectacularly" mean

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Or MIKA who I mentioned above. Life in Cartoom Motion was number 1 in several countries charts, he was a bit pf a celebrity, remember seeing him in magazine covers and being harrassed by paparazzi... but every subsequent single and album ever since failed to hit as hard and I don’t think I’ve seen anything about him in almost a decade.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:32 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't think anyone that actually ever got a number 1 hit can be considered to have "failed spectacularly"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Mika was on UK X Factor as recent as two months ago.

But yes, Shakey OTM.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:34 (one year ago) Permalink

there seems to be a great deal of confusion about what the words "megahyped" and "failed spectacularly" mean

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, December 5, 2017 3:31 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah so many of the bands mentioned in the initial 2010 posts don't fit those criteria at all. Tapes N Tapes is a good example of a band that had a HUGE p4k push and went nowhere. they didn't fail spectacularly & weren't megahyped by anyone else in the media, but they absolutely sit alongside Voxtrot

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:37 (one year ago) Permalink

I guess the fact that a lot of Pitchfork hyped American indie from the '00s was fucking terrible is neither here nor there.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:39 (one year ago) Permalink

no it definitely is, if you look at most of the bands posted itt they're all either average or fucking awful.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Terris still remain the best example - endless hype in the UK music press from 1999 to 2001, even landing an NME cover without having released all that much. Their singer, if I recall, was giving it the big licks onstage a lot and totally thought his band were the mutts nutts. They didn't have a Top 10 single, the album performed dreadfully and they got dropped. The NME suddenly were like "meh, fuck 'em" and moved onto The Strokes.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:43 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah that's a perfect example

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:44 (one year ago) Permalink

idk Sheer Mag seemed to be getting a push from p4k and Rolling Stone in 2015 and 2016 and they dropped a debut album this year that I'm not seeing on any EOY lists

President Keyes, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:45 (one year ago) Permalink

To this day, I've still never heard a Terris track. Gay Dad were similarily hyped, and utterly shit, but I still managed to hear the singles from the first LP without even trying.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I was going to say--hippie alert--Blind Faith, but I didn't realize their debut hit #1 in both the States and the UK. They didn't get a second album out, though.

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

How about Rita Ora's US career? (I know she's actually had success elsewhere but I don't think "hook singer on the Iggy Azalea single people barely remember" qualifies in the US as spectacular success.)

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Well the NME had just came from helping these guys take over the world:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Yksb7SyiQWQ/UHf4digZMxI/AAAAAAAAL64/nsUwk2Pf7xE/s1600/tiny2.jpg

everything, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:51 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't think the NME were banking on them putting out overblown, progged out double CD debut album, which they promptly gave a middling review to.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 20:59 (one year ago) Permalink

They certainly crashed and burned quite spectacularly. Split up about a year after that cover - which may have contributed to their demise.

everything, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:06 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd say the fact that they didn't get on too well with each other was the main reason they split.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:14 (one year ago) Permalink

I want to say JJ72, but they managed to make it to a second album. God, the late '90s/very early '00s were a fucking strange time.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Then how about Kelly Clarkson?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, December 5, 2017 3:27 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is this trolling

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 21:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Sheer Mag = jury is still out, but yes I could definitely see them becoming one of these bands. Another contemporary that absolutely fits the bill is Downtown Boys.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 22:06 (one year ago) Permalink

oh!! and METZ. huge p4k push circa 2012, nice festival slots, solid tours, each album has essentially been ignored. when I was in Toronto recently (their hometown), I saw a poster for their new record and realized I hadn't thought about them in years.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 22:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Sheer Mag not capitalising on large rock publications writing about them probably has something to do with their having zero interest in the perceived benefits of that

thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 23:54 (one year ago) Permalink

or their profound stupidity

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 23:57 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah those idiots probably think they're actually enjoying being in their band

thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 00:02 (one year ago) Permalink

FISCHERSPOONER

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 00:06 (one year ago) Permalink

^otm

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 00:08 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah moka imho yr thing is interesting and might yield some good groans and lols, but different enough to have its own thread. equivalent or overlapping with bands that got megahyped and it was enough to give them a moment of success but the public didn't really buy it and they disappeared back whence they came - your duncan sheiks and jimmy rays, and their indie equivalents (where mgmt miiiiiight qualify but idk then we're just doing one-album wonders... they have fans and still put out music).

kelly clarkson is ludicrous though.

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 00:36 (one year ago) Permalink

Not trolling on Kelly Clarkson it’s been years since I heard about her didn’t know she was still huge in the US.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 04:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Color me underwhelmed...from Justin to this!??

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 04:20 (one year ago) Permalink

But yeah my examples are on the wrong thread was thinking of diminishing returns rather than undelivered promises.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 04:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Kinda happens with most artists

President Keyes, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 10:49 (one year ago) Permalink

I've not listened to it in donkeys years but I remember quite liking the Terris debut EP. Live they were very good too, in an intense way. The debut album was fucking awful, though.

I've literally never heard of Voxtrot before today.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 13:43 (one year ago) Permalink

I've literally never heard of Voxtrot before today.

me neither.
i am going to have to try and find that terris album this weekend aren't i.
pretty sure i found a skinny promo cd-r in the bins around the time they were being hyped, but not sure i ever actually listened to it.

mark e, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 13:52 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd say the fact that they didn't get on too well with each other was the main reason they split.

― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican)

maybe. they got back together some years back. they do pretty well as a cult prog band appealing to the cardiacs set - they were just never going to be the Monsters of Britpop the NME thought they were after hearing "Kurt Russell".

bob lefse (rushomancy), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 14:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Jimmie Ray..... my god, flashbacks

brimstead, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 14:59 (one year ago) Permalink

What was that guy all about

brimstead, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 15:00 (one year ago) Permalink

who wants to know

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 15:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Metz seems kind of unfair to list here. They have a niche and they fill it.

Simon H., Wednesday, 6 December 2017 15:06 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm guessing the new freebie NME doesn't have the space to hype obvious chancers any more, I kind of miss that now it's gone.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 23:16 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd always assumed The Vines were an answer to this question but fuck me their debut sold 1.5m copies. How big do you need to be to do that these days?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 23:19 (one year ago) Permalink

ha, the Vines were my first thought when I saw this thread title, too.

Would someone like Jay Electronica count? He got a ton of hype and co-signs back in 2007 but then has released 2 solo songs and about a dozen guest verses since then.

methanietanner, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 23:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Jay Electronica is a great pick for the niche level of hype he got

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 7 December 2017 09:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Jimmy Ray was hyped? Moreso than those other 90s one-hit-wonder acts like Marcy Playground or the “This is the story of a girl who cried a river and drowned the whole world” band?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 7 December 2017 12:12 (one year ago) Permalink

Obie Trice
Lupe Fiasco

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 7 December 2017 12:13 (one year ago) Permalink

Did anyone care about Obie once?

President Keyes, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:47 (one year ago) Permalink


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