Best Line in "Graceland"

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there's a girl in new york city who calls herself the human trampoline 8
and everybody sees you're blown apart, everybody feels the wind blow 7
the mississippi delta was shining like a national guitar 6
my travelling companion is nine years old, the child of my first marriage 5
as if i didn't know that, as if i didn't know my own bed 5
as if i'd never noticed the way she brushed her hair from her forehead 5
i may be obliged to defend every love every ending, or maybe there's no obligations now 4
i'm going to graceland 3
maybe i've reason to believe we all will be received in graceland 3
my travelling companions are ghosts and empty sockets, looking at ghosts and empties 3
she said losing love is like a window in your heart 2
i am following the river down the highway through the cradle of the civil war 2
for reasons i cannot explain some part of me wants to see graceland 2
i've reason to believe we all will be received in graceland 2
sometimes when i'm falling, flying, tumbling in turmoil. i say oh so this is what she means 2
i've reason to believe we both will be received in graceland 1
and everybody sees you're blown apart, everybody feels the wind blow 1
i'm going to graceland, graceland, memphis tennesee, i'm going to graceland 0
woah-oh-oh, into graceland, into graceland 0
i see losing love is like a window in your heart 0
she means we're bouncing into graceland 0
poor boys, pilgrims with families and we are going to graceland 0
she comes back to tell me she's gone 0
i'm going to graceland, graceland, memphis tennesee, i'm going to graceland 0
poor boys, pilgrims with families and we are going to graceland 0


Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

NYC human trampoline, because it sounds like it's come in out of a Lou Reed song.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Although "shining like a National guitar" is second choice, because a) it's an awesome image, and b) it's followed by a guitar line, which might sound like a cheesy obvious thing to do, but PS makes it work.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

as if i didn't know that, as if i didn't know my own bed

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i was listening to this minutes ago. minutes! think i'm voting "sometimes when i'm falling, flying, tumbling in turmoil, i say oh so this is what she means" i love the way he delivers "oh" it's more like "whoa" and he speakss it instead of singing it. would like to include "she means we're bouncing into graceland," too. first time the "losing love is like a window in your heart" refrain comes around is beautiful as well.

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

too hard

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

so so hard.

just sayin, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i have been listening to so much paul simon in the past year i think it's because i'm old now

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

also that's a great point by hs--simon is such an amazing vocalist

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i may be obliged to defend every love every ending, or maybe there's no obligations now

tylerw, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Do Call Me Al! I want to vote for the roly poly little bat-faced girl.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

(this really is his best song, isn't it? wow.)

tylerw, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i may be obliged to defend every love every ending, or maybe there's no obligations now

― tylerw, Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:19 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

good one

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

how can you possibly pick a best song there's like eight million of them and so many great ones

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i have been listening to so much paul simon in the past year i think it's because i'm old now

― horseshoe, Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:18 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no its just cause you have good taste

max, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

For this probably ghosts and empties or tumbling in turmoil

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

The Sweet 16 brackets of Paul Simon songs might end in Bridge Over Troubled Water versus this one.

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Besides the beautiful, buoyant, rippling arrangement, the lyrics are outstanding, yet even if you were feeling sinister and accusing him of writing what looks on paper like a florid phrase ("my travelling companion is nine years old, the child of my first marriage") his singing is so masterful: he mediates between serenity and a kind of wistfulness.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

has anyone ever covered this song? seems like it would be hard to sing, tho simon makes it sound easy.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

as if i didn't know that, as if i didn't know my own bed

vs

my travelling companions are ghosts and empty sockets, looking at ghosts and empties

vs

i may be obliged to defend every love every ending, or maybe there's no obligations now

i also love the effortlessness of this line:

i am following the river down the highway through the cradle of the civil war

max, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh, poetry

goole, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

has anyone ever covered this song? seems like it would be hard to sing, tho simon makes it sound easy.

Willie Nelson, who handled the conversational cadences well but the arrangement is meh.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

casiotone for the painfully alone did a cover iirc

just sayin, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the following the river line is amazing and he has a way with simple declarations like that--see verse 1 of hearts and bones as well

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

as if i didn't know that, as if i didn't know my own bed

is what I picked too. Can't talk about this record enough imo

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Grace Jones needs to make this the title cut of her comeback, Graceland.

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

love this song so much

voted for the first line

iatee, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

you know what is a great line from this album is "Sad as a lonely little wrinkled balloon" from "Crazy Love." also all the other lines in that song

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

She said, "Don't I know you from the cinematographer's party?"

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^
I was going to mention that one.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

love the youtube comments for this - I like Ladysmith Black Mambazo. But whenever I see them I think it takes ten men to take the place on one Art Garfunkel. Art is God.

just sayin, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

you are the burden of my generation / i sure do love you, let's get that straight

^^another great half-spoken delivery

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

It's like it's written from the POV of his Annie Hall character, doing just fine in the mid eighties, attending a party at Sydney Pollack's.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"I Know What I Know," that is.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"lasers in the jungle somewhere" pops into my head all the time

max, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

a loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires and baaaby

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry i'll stop this is what the inside of my head is like

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

that whole verse:

And I believe these are the days of lasers in the jungle,
Lasers in the jungle somewhere,
Staccato signals of constant information,
A loose affiliation of millionaires
And billionaires and baby,
These are the days of miracle and wonder,

max, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

xp!!

max, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxp ^^^ also "the bomb in the baby carriage was wired to the radio"

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

she said losing love is like a window in your heart
and everybody sees you're blown apart, everybody feels the wind blow

Separating these two seems wrong (also I don't remember that "and" being there)

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

<3

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i know this album so well its scary, like the back of my hand

max, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

there's no "and"

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

And don't cry baby, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

the bomb in the baby carriage line is great because that whole verse is setting this scene and that line is like boom it's over here's the chorus.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

'everybody sees youre blown apart'

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

staccato signals a pulse of information

(am i remembering right??)

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought it was constant

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

love the sounds of the lines & twists & turns in meaning they make vs your expectations of how a lyric 'should' resolve

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I see losing this album is like a window in your heart

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

ha i just realized i always heard that line as "oozing love"

max, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

that's crazy max

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

also gross

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

mixed metaphors are beneath Simon.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

(yeah, lyrics are a smidge off -- I googled, copied, cut some line breaks; ah well)

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

she said losing love is like a window in your heart
and everybody sees you're blown apart, everybody feels the wind blow

Separating these two seems wrong (also I don't remember that "and" being there)

― Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:31 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

<3

― horseshoe, Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:31 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

there's no "and"

― horseshoe, Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:32 PM Bookmark

Exactly, and that's the point of the line -- the window in your heart is what allows everyone to see that you're blown apart and feel the wind blow.

And that's probably my favorite line in the song.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

on the 2002 tour the t shirts had

It's a turn-around jump shot
It's everybody jump start
It's every generation throws a hero up the pop charts

on them. but that's not from this song.

piscesx, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

"everybody sees you're blown apart" followed by "everybody feels the wind blow" is genius; i get chills every time. it's partly the music at that moment, but still.

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Only just realized the double meaning of "national guitar" in the first line

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

what's the double meaning?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought it was a straight ref to resonator guitars

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

1) Reference to National brand guitars
2) the delta as a blues capital is kind of like a 'national' guitar of the united states -- sort of loose and abstract I guess but it occurred to me

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

ok that's funny, i think i heard it that way when i was a kid before i knew what a reso guitar was--glad it has occurred to others!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

My misheard Paul Simon line from childhood is "You don't have to be cordouroy."

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Agree about the "double meaning" of National guitar. Don't see how you could possibly read it as just one thing or the other at all.

"as if i didn't know that, etc." is a pretty powerful turnaround and gets my vote

Favorite lines from the whole record are the

Staccato signals of constant information,
A loose affiliation of millionaires
And billionaires and baby,

He is surrounded by the sound
The sound
Cattle in the marketplace
Scatterlings and orphanages
He looks around, around
He sees angels in the architecture
Spinning in infinity
He says Amen! and Hallelujah!

despite not being very religious myself : )

kkvgz, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't see how you could possibly read it as just one thing or the other at all.

you could not know what a National guitar is

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

ha i just realized i always heard that line as "oozing love"

― max, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:36 (49 minutes ago) Permalink

looool me too

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

xp: okay, good point.

kkvgz, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Well that's one way to lose these walking blues: diamond on the soles of your shoes.

SongOfSam, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

diamondS! (sorry)

SongOfSam, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

best line(s) in that song is "she said honey take me dancing/but they ended up by sleeping in a doorway/by the bodegas and the lights on upper Broadway"

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

hurting OTM. that line has haunted me for much of my life. unfair that it's not only broken up but listed twice, ensuring a tragic split of the votes.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

as if i'd never noticed the way she brushed her hair from her forehead

because I've noticed that too; or to put it a little differently, because the cadence of the last seven words brushes her hair, as though he is going through the motions of brushing her hair with his voice: air brushing, if you will.

Euler, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

yes that's true!

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

word painting

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

"Ghosts and empty sockets" would probably be my runner-up, from this song.

kkvgz, Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

One of the most perfectly crafted songs I know of. Just gorgeous. Gives me chills every time, even now.

ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 19 August 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

"she said honey take me dancing/but they ended up by sleeping in a doorway/by the bodegas and the lights on upper Broadway"

yeah this for sure!! the way the syllables dance off each other is so flawless -- my favorite rappers work the same way

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, 19 August 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

to join the chorus: one of my favorite, favorite songs. it was then, twenty-some years ago, and still is now. there isn't a bad line in it, and at least half are beautiful, so hard to choose over the rest. finally went with "as if i didn't know that..." because it's the point on which the song hinges, opening from the specifics of a moment onto a larger field of emotion and association. but it's one among many, and probably too safe a choice besides.

a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 August 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

human trampoline. Just love that line. I bet it's a tough one to cover, he always makes his phrasing seem so natural but it's so tough to carry across convincingly. That whole record just fits so many syllables with such ease.

owenf, Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

aw paul simon is so small

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

after that show Willie put Paul in his shirt pocket, then rolled him up and smoked him.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

did willie nelson feel like he could not sing with authority about a girl from new york city so he had to change it to austin, texas?

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

he did a nice job with my favorite line

horseshoe, Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

An oozing glove is like a window in your arm

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

"everybody sees you're blown apart" followed by "everybody feels the wind blow" is genius; i get chills every time. it's partly the music at that moment, but still.

got chills reading the poll option! backing vocals are incredible - that simple little frere jacques thing.

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Thursday, 19 August 2010 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

My screen saver at work is the generic Windows bouncing 3D text which I have changed to read "Human Trampoline."

Hideous Lump, Friday, 20 August 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

as if i'd never noticed the way she brushed her hair from her forehead

('_') (omar little), Friday, 20 August 2010 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

there are a million songs where the same sentiment is delivered in such a clumsy way and this one is just right on

('_') (omar little), Friday, 20 August 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

he always enunciates with perfect grace.

estela, Friday, 20 August 2010 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yes he is such an enunciator!

horseshoe, Friday, 20 August 2010 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

(I'm imagining horseshoe on her 14th consecutive hour of listening to this song.)

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Friday, 20 August 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i love the way he pronounces like everything ........ he never sounds like hes putting on an affect or accent, always paul simon

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i may be obliged to defend every love every ending, or maybe there's no obligations now

the way he sings this line, and the way it unfolds after that "may", is basically permanently stuck in my head. also how tentative the 2nd part is, as if it just occurred to him right then

chill.wav (Lamp), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

(I'm imagining horseshoe on her 14th consecutive hour of listening to this song.)

― Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Friday, August 20, 2010 1:58 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha i don't even have to listen to it i just play it in my head!

horseshoe, Friday, 20 August 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i like how the song turns totally haunting right after "i've reason to believe we both will be received in graceland", like taking it up a notch to this incredible sense of existential loss that totally hit me even when i was like 10 years old or w/e i was when it came out

('_') (omar little), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link

the first "i've reason to believe we both will be received in graceland" that is

('_') (omar little), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:42 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 this album basically

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:42 (thirteen years ago) link

my dad used to play this, taj mahal's 'the real thing' & neville bros 'yellow moon' more than any other cds

maybe tom waits 'heart of saturday night' & the james taylor album w/ 'copperline' too. & some van morrison

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link

so many good paul simon albums really we should poll them all song by song

horseshoe, Friday, 20 August 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link

or i should go to sleep

horseshoe, Friday, 20 August 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ 'cds.' i meant cassettes obv. oh yeah he also liked 'rum sodomy and the lash'

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:44 (thirteen years ago) link

this combined with starting to watch SNL back in the mid-'80s was like opening up this crazy world of adult stuff that was kind of an endlessly unspooling mystery for me to solve.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link

so many good paul simon albums really we should poll them all song by song

if you include the jerry landis stuff then there is like ∞ good songs & i wld die of old age b4 i could choose

chill.wav (Lamp), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:45 (thirteen years ago) link

You're The One is way ignored.

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Friday, 20 August 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I always really liked "my traveling companion is nine years old, he is the child of my first marriage" - it's such a distant way to say "my son"; he's more (or less) than a son: he's a reminder of a painful relationship. Sorry son.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 20 August 2010 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I think part of the reason the "window in your heart" line works so well is the context - the rest of the song isn't quite as exposed and tender and the rest of the album is even less so. I could almost see it being cringe-worthy if it were in the middle of a weepy Jewel-esque ballad.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 August 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I mean other lines are tender but maybe in a less direct way.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 August 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

human trampoline

teledyldonix, Friday, 20 August 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

so so many good lines in this, but 'human trampoline' always just feels like a blown/tossed off dylan line or something to me. it's the only one that actually takes me out of the song.

bear, bear, bear, Saturday, 21 August 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

also, i don't much believe anyone wld call themselves that

bear, bear, bear, Saturday, 21 August 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I just listened to it and the 'no obligations' line was the one I most compelled to sing along to.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 21 August 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

so so many good lines in this, but 'human trampoline' always just feels like a blown/tossed off dylan line or something to me. it's the only one that actually takes me out of the song.

also, i don't much believe anyone wld call themselves that

this. thought the same thing even as a kid. it's a striking line and he delivers it very well (esp the "oh, so this is what she means" part), but it doesn't ring true. "a human trampoline," maybe.

a CRASBO is a "criminally related" ASBO (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 August 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, I can sorta picture somebody loudly explaining "You know I am like a human trampoline, people just keep jumping on me!!!" and thinking they were really clever but actually being annoying and lame.... I just think this song sort of deserves better acquaintances than that, especially since she's introduced as "there is a girl in New York City," somehow the equivalent of the former talk show host that you can only find by traveling over the mountains and down to the valley. You want these mythical characters to have something better to say for themselves.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i h8 all u guys who are h8ing on human trampoline tbh

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

whenever people call something dylanesque all that means is it's awesome afaic

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

also the function of "there's a girl in new york city" is key to simon's whole slice of new york hipster community thing

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

in conclusion, i'm mad

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not voting for "there's a girl in new york city who calls herself the human trampoline" as it is isolated in this poll but that section of the song, from "there's a girl" to "she means we're bouncing into graceland" is my favorite part, like something catches in my throat at "bouncing into graceland" half the time.

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe her name is Maybelline or something else that rhymes with trampoline.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i like gumboots more than this, and esp in terms of NYC hipster types portraiture

plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

MAYBE WHO CARES IF ITS IMPLAUSIBLE

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

gumboots is gr8

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

horseshoe r u actually shouting all this out loud as u type srs q.

plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

best line(s) in that one either "I said hey you know breakdowns come and breakdowns go / so what are you going to do about it, that's what I'd like to know" largely bc of delivery or "believing i had supernatural powers i slammed into a brick wall"

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

haha plax i am seething with rage and spoiling for a fight

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

u r rong it is "hey! ain't we walking down the same street, together, on the very same day"

plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

that is a v v nice delivery, also

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

so conversational!

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

just listened to the youtube of this as ive lost the album. do all youtube comments have to have some bit of masochistic nostalgia going on? makes me despair for humantity. i went for 'everybody sees your blown apart, everybody feels the wind blow'.

Michael B, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i like how the words play off each other there

window
heart
blown
apart
wind
blow

('_') (omar little), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

horseshoe, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

great album. great song.

plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

best album of whatever year it was released

Michael B, Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Alright in a kind of a limited way for an off-night.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 21 August 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Really can't listen to this album anymore having heard it at so many cinematographers' parties.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

If you listen to Live in Central Park, each NYC reference in the Simon oeuvre is met with extended whooping.

"There is a girl in New York City...."

WHOOWOOOWHOOWHWOHWOHOOOWHOOO

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha, yeah. 'Counting the cars on the New Jersey turnpike' etc.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Has anyone seen One Trick Pony? Is it any good?

rhythm fixated member (chap), Sunday, 22 August 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

its ... entertaining

NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Sunday, 22 August 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, xps, 'Gumboots' is the best

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 August 2010 07:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i voted "for reasons i cannot explain some part of me wants to see graceland" -- b/c that's what I feel about graceland (and any number of other tourist traps).

Voting with My Dollars for More Swill to be Made (Eisbaer), Sunday, 22 August 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Some One Trick Pony discussion here:

Paul Simon - One Trick Pony, C or D

and maybe here:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=31830

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 August 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

(that's "Do you believe Paul Simon when, in "Late in the Evening", he describes how he returns to the club after smoking a "J" and proceeds to turn up his amp and "(blow) that room away"?")

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 22 August 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

classic alex in nyc on that thread:

I believe the bit about smokin' the "j", but not about the room-blowin' (like he suddenly morphed into a diminutive clone of Yngwie Malmsteen).
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, July 22, 2004 8:59 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

Voting with My Dollars for More Swill to be Made (Eisbaer), Sunday, 22 August 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

is there anyone right now writing lyrics this good and self-aware about the nyc hip-art-music-whatever scene? vampire weekend is the only band thats even attempting this i think and--i think theyre good lyricists--but theyre not paul simon

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

tbf they've had two albums, what album was graceland for him.

plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

all his albums have v good lyrics post-simon and garfunkel it's kind of his "thing"

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

the 70s solo simon albums are so new york-y

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

like woody allen movies they have had a debilitating effect on my adult life

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

im not saying vampire weekend "should" be the new paul simon of lyrics, im just wondering if there is a 2000s paul simon

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

like if there was ever a 'scene' that could use a self aware lyricist with a good sense of humor about 'the scene'... its brooklyn ca 2010

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

and the thing is vw are UWS brats not brooklyn brats

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's clear what you have to do, max

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

zinging is my art

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

not lyrics

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a fine line!!!!!

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

too true, too true

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

in a lot of ways my tumblr is my graceland

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean you dont really need a graceland when you have the ny times in 2010:

http://celebraterickysargulesh.tumblr.com/post/418545344/brooklyn-2010

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i still think he did take a while to "mature" as a songwriter. the s+gf stuff is only intermittently good lyrically

plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Come Anticipate Norah Jones's NYC Zingers.

I do think Craig Finn works at combining stuff that's never been in a song with specific snapshots of times and spaces with stream-of-consciousness, but it's not NYC.

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the s+gf stuff is only intermittently good lyrically

― plax (ico), Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:25 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's true; i don't really like simon and garfunkel that much at all

horseshoe, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah finns a good lyricist, but hes not as funny as simon i dont think, or as self aware, and, crucially, from britain or alaska or somewhere

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i still think he did take a while to "mature" as a songwriter. the s+gf stuff is only intermittently good lyrically

^^^ my next point, actually. To be fair to both Koenig and Simon, the latter didn't stumble into his lyrical genius. S&G is often painfully, clumsily erudite.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Neil Tennant and Robert Forster wrote really good songs about scenes, but their time has passed, I guess.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, thats fine. i didnt really mean to rag on VW, im just wondering if there IS a 2000s-paul-simon-of-new-york, besides me and my tumblr

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

btw i have never seen this:

In 1988, Simon released a video for the song to promote his greatest hits compilation, Negotiations and Love Songs. The video features an introduction by rappers Big Daddy Kane and Biz Markie. The video depicts adults interacting with the youth of an inner city schoolyard where they dealt drugs. It shows Simon playing basketball and baseball with the children, and it also features basketball player Spud Webb, baseball legend Mickey Mantle, and football coach/commentator John Madden giving tips to young athletes.[1]

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

(thats re: me and julio)

max, Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

S+G was writing genre songs in the same way that Simon always does, but he was getting Elizabethan and Hymnal Music out of the way early, saving zydeco and (on the great "Adios Hermanos") doo-wop for later.

Bag Smart, Street Stupid (Eazy), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a making the album documentary where simon talks u through writing graceland line by line and it seems like anyone could have written that song, its kindof awesome.

plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

idk i think his skill is in managing to be really evocative w/ the smallest parts "the child of my first marriage" is such a banal line but it also paints a massive backstory and dovetails so well w/ the forehead hair brusher l8r

plax (ico), Sunday, 22 August 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

the last line in this song always kills me. i'm not sure why.

we wanted lime (mike a), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

poor boys, pilgrims with families and we are going to graceland 0

^^ i dont know that this line got "robbed" buts another one where he has perfect delivery

max, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe he should have worked new york city into the line somehow.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

she comes back to tell me she's gone 0

The declarative sentence loses.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd just like to point out that there is a tie for first place here

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Reading these lyrics out, they read like Dan Bejar lyrics.

altered boners (rennavate), Thursday, 26 August 2010 07:05 (thirteen years ago) link

The declarative sentence loses.

Which is unfortunate, because I love that line.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 August 2010 07:16 (thirteen years ago) link

This thread has sparked a total renewed interest in this album, appreciating the lyrics like never before. Thinking I might go through some of them with my advanced TELF students next week.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Friday, 27 August 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember my mom asking me to explain the lyrics to the Myth of Fingerprints to her when I was 13

I drink your milksteak (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 August 2010 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Something I wrote about this song last year.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 28 August 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPFESqwh0ks

max, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

omg

horseshoe, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

btw i have never seen this:

In 1988, Simon released a video for the song to promote his greatest hits compilation, Negotiations and Love Songs. The video features an introduction by rappers Big Daddy Kane and Biz Markie. The video depicts adults interacting with the youth of an inner city schoolyard where they dealt drugs. It shows Simon playing basketball and baseball with the children, and it also features basketball player Spud Webb, baseball legend Mickey Mantle, and football coach/commentator John Madden giving tips to young athletes.[1]

― max, Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:29 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(thats re: me and julio)

― max, Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:29 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O859wd7H6h8

horseshoe, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

like i said before this was sort of the first "adult" album i started to kind of understand, it made me almost feel older, like some weird vicarious sense of 'mono no aware' when i was 11. and an epic song.

omar little, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

Me and Julio video is hilarious.

Graceland doc looks a little too polite, but in any case this is my all-time favorite album so I'll watch.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

wow cool!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link


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