Which Vaccuous Pop Irritant's "Influences" list is this?

http://homepages.nyu.edu/~alr237/void_split.jpg

Okay, so over the weekend, I spotted a picture of a current pop sensation (no, not Lady Gaga) wearing a t-shirt with the VOID insignia on it. I was deeply incredulous that a whistleheaded pop irritant like _____ dared sully Void's good name with her vileness. Upon sharing this revelation with a colleague this morning, he answered: "Dude, check out her MySpace page ... she likes good music." I find it imposible to believe that a child capable of making such awful pop would be fan of decent music, but check out her list of "influences" and see if you can guess who I'm talking about:

MIA, Beck, Rolling Stones, Devo, Flock of Seagulls, kraftwork, Daniel Johnson, talking Heads, David Bowie, Donovan, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Janet and Sir Michael Jackson, Avenue A, The Go! Team, Mika, Sonic Youth, Elton John, Willlie Nelson, Gwen Stefani, Madonna, Beastie Boys, Eagles of Death Metal, Black Keys, Black Eyed Peas, Daft Punk, Electric 6, Teenager, Tonite Only, Prince,Mirwais, Afrika Bambaata, Peaches, Rock&Roll, Richard X, Cornelius, ESG,6ths, ackron family, al green, andrew bird, anthrax, aphex twin, aphid ant constructions, arcade fire, archers of loaf, ataxia, badfinger, the bang up, beck, belle &; sebastian, ben lee, beulah, big star, black flag, the blow, boards of canada, bob dylan, brian eno, brian wilson, bright eyes, built to spill, butthole surfers, the cardigans, the carpenters, casiotone for the painfully alone, the clash, the clutters, daft punk, the damned, the dandy warhols, david bowie, the dead milkmen, devandra banhart, donovan, dresden dolls, the eels, elvis costello, eric's trip, the fall, the features, fischerspooner, frank black, frank sinatra, franz ferdinand, futurheads, gary glitter, generation x, ghostface killah, gogol bordello, gorillaz, guided by voices, her space holiday, how i became the bomb, human television, iggy pop, islands, jackson 5, jawbreaker, jenny lewis, jim o'rourke, joan jett, joe jack talcum, john frusciante, johnny thunders, the killers, kimya dawson, the kinks, kraftwerk, LCD soundsystem, le tigre, the lemonheads, leonard cohen, little ones, lou barlow, love, the lovely feathers, marshal crenshaw, matisyahu, matmos, miles davis, minor threat, modest mouse, mos def, mott the hoople, the mountain goats, moving units, my darling YOU!, neil diamond, neil young, neko case, neutral milk hotel, neva dinova, nico, of montreal, oh no! oh my!, optiganally yours, ornamental wigwam, otis redding, the pastels, peaches, pere ubu, peter bjorn and john, pink spiders, pixies, pj harvey, postal service, public enemy, pulp, queen, r.e.m., r.l. burnside, radiohead, the raincoats, rancid, the rapture, the rascals, ratatat, the ravonettes, regina spektor, replacements, roky erickson, rolling stones, ryan adams, screeching weasel, the shins, the small faces, the smiths, smoking popes, sparklehorse, spinto band, squarepusher, stellastarr*, stiff little fingers, the stranglers, the streets, the streets, the strokes, surfjan stevens, the sundays, sun ra, t rex, ted leo and the pharmacists, television, tilly and the wall, they might be giants, tom jones, tracy + the plastics, troubled hubble, tv on the radio, U2, the unicorns, the vaselines, the velvet underground, the ventures, verde, violent femmes, the walkmen, wilco, wire, X, yeah yeah yeahs, yo la tengo, the zebras, the zombies

Yes, I'm being incredibly imperious and snotty, but I still be you'll be surprised.

...and it should be Which Vaccuous Pop Irritant's "Influences" LISTis this?, obviously.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio..."

P.S. Mandy Moore likes Jandek. And starred in Southland Tales.

It was who I thought it was. (First MySpace page I checked -- So not, not all that surprised.) But I won't give it away.

damn i cant believe a girl would like good music

I love her song when it comes on the radio. I definitely think that she could be into a shit-ton of these bands, but I'll admit that the list seems like it might be a little padded.

Double Donovans.

Double Peaches.

xp Well, to be fair, lots of that music isn't good.

damn i cant believe a girl would like good music

Fixed ha ha

ha ha I also got it in one. Don't really understand why this is so o_0 TBH

::checks the name of the original poster::

oh right

wtf is 'oh no! oh my!'?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8Yl6uhyizYo/Rol-qwtltGI/AAAAAAAAA8o/Y4X9Vg25QjU/s400/oh%2Bno%2Boh%2Bmy.gif

^ dunno whether to laugh or barf

ha yeah, this is obvious

gotta say, my wife was really annoyed with this woman before seeing her perform on someone's show (I think Wendy Williams?) and now she's an unabashed fan

Guessed it as well.

Can we have a counterthread where one of Alex's favorites wears a 3OH!3 shirt and lists nothing but Hilary Duff and Hilary Duff remixes as influences?

...and it should be Which Vaccuous Pop Irritant's "Influences" LISTis this?, obviously.

Actually, it should be Which Vacuous Pop Irritant's "Influences" LIST is this?

:p

xp: I would like to make that happen so badly.

Is it DJ Martian?

having worked in entertainment and web 2.0 promotion, i can almost guarantee that she didn't write this list. it's probably more like someone said "make a list of 'influences' that will help [xx$xx] appeal to the indie audience."

fixed the title.

(no idea w/r/t the question though!)

Well, we are now a higher google search result for this list than her myspace is.

Queen, Beach Boys, Heart, Joni Mitchell, Paul Simon, Alanis, Imogen Heap, Gwen S, your mom, Rufus Wainwright and anyone who is heavily influencable. Where's the spell check on here myspace?

Wuh? Any guesses as to whose this is?

"make a list of 'influences' that will help (xx$xx) appeal to the indie audience."

Now if that was really her name...

I smell a remix!

Yes! that would be funny (xpost to ned). I saw the person's myspace, I've never heard of her!

it's probably more like someone said "make a list of 'influences' that will help [xx$xx] appeal to the indie audience."

Kinda think you're overestimating how important 'appealing to the indie audience' is here, tbh

List is sort of weird but does read to me like one person's hypothetical taste in music - reminds me of quite a lot of ppl I know who are basically 'indie' but not by design so much as their tastes just... gravitated that way

Y'know what I think it is that's so upsetting about Shania wearing Ramones and AC/DC shirts? It's that she herself is nothing but a sparkless careerist. Based on her press, she's has nothing but contempt for her audience and positively LOATHES being a "public person." Beyond that, her music is completely inconsequential, banal and rife with the same amount of meaningless cliché that plagues, say, the Corrs! Meanwhile, whether you appreciate them or not, the Ramones and AC/DC are artists who have *INSPIRED* people. There are more bands that were spawned in the wake of these two giant names than Shania could ever hope to affect. The Ramones and AC/DC inspire *PASSION* in their fans, whereas Shania merely manufactures fucking PRODUCT and shifts units to consumers who clearly don't have very high musical standards (does this make them subhuman? No, just that music doesn't interest them). Therefore, it is offensive to folks who *DO* take music seriously (whether you think that's silly or not) that Shania is limply trying to imply some affinity/appreciation for individuals who actually make music of quality. I doubt Shania even enjoys music to begin with.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:44 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I googled the artist based on the list, never heard of her either.

SIMON: I'm told you had just about the perfect SAT scores.

Ms. SEBERT: It was close - 1500. I was, like, very studious. I was actually in the international baccalaureate program, in AP, I, like, loved physics and math and I was in the marching band. And then after that practice I would drive to Belmont - it's a college in Nashville - and just for fun listen in on Cold War history classes. Just 'cause I just think it's so interesting.

And I was so curious kind of about all that I ended up taking my first solo trip to Cuba. So point being: I was very studious and really curious about a lot of things that are much deeper than, you know, partying and dancing.

Also I suspect when lady pop stars wear t-shirts w/ logos of bands they probably don't care for, it's less an attempt at edginess than just because they have logos that look good

Interestingly, not many of these apparent influences make the list:

One of the benefits of the half-talk-half-rap delivery she uses for many of her verses is that it’s infinitely plastic; she can adopt any tone, apply any level of sarcasm or referentiality. At various times throughout the album I thought I heard Kim Gordon, Moon Unit Zappa, Johnnette Napolitano, Debora Iyall (Romeo Void), Deborah Evans-Stickland (Flying Lizards), Kathleen Hanna, and Laurie Anderson. Which if you’re trying to make a list of feminist forebears is about as good as you can hope for, and I hope I’m not just hallucinating the similarities. (Definitely not with Laurie Anderson.)

http://aceterrier.tumblr.com/post/439283435/we-are-in-the-second-week-of-the-third-month-of

P.S. Mandy Moore likes Jandek.

At various times throughout the album I thought I heard Kim Gordon, Moon Unit Zappa, Johnnette Napolitano, Debora Iyall (Romeo Void), Deborah Evans-Stickland (Flying Lizards), Kathleen Hanna, and Laurie Anderson.

I always hear L'Trimm.

(Guessed it in one too.)

xposts

Yeah, I was going to say -- suprised L'Trimm, Salt N Pepa, or Daphne and Celeste didn't make the list. (And it would be cool if she had Brownsville Station, the Dictators, and the Tubes up there; maybe she'll add them later.)

How many people in their early 20s are realistically gonna know L'Trimm at this point, rilly? Even when they sound a bit like them. I mean I love L'Trimm but

Who is AceTerrier, btw? I've seen his/her blog posted all over the place lately.

Um just in case anyone gives a rat's ass, it's Ke$ha. And the Queen, Beach Boys, heart, etc. one NickB posted above is Katy Perry (my first guess).

Can we have a counterthread where one of Alex's favorites wears a 3OH!3 shirt and lists nothing but Hilary Duff and Hilary Duff remixes as influences?

xhuxk, didn't you write that Stacey Q wore Motorhead t-shirts? Not sure if that fits or if it was a joke to begin with but...

Was it Motorhead, or was it Sex Pistols? But either way, she definitely worse shirts. (Sometimes, anyway -- in at least one photo published in I think Toronto's Eye Weekly in the '90s, she wore body paint instead.)

xp I'm told Ace Terrier is one Jonathan Bogart (who I'm pretty sure I'd never knowingly read a word by until last week.)

Sounds Like god having an orgasm

hope that doesn't give it away!

xp...definitely wore shirts....

last year Miley Cyrus made a big deal of wanting to meet Radiohead at the Grammys, and a few months later said that she's never heard a Jay-Z song and doesn't listen to pop music. I think general cynicism about pop music is so widespread that even the people that make it, especially the young singers, are just kind of dismissive of what they do and try to make sure everyone knows they like much cooler music than the stuff they get rich off of.

and I guess ostensibly having a bunch of pop stars with cool underground influences would make pop more interesting, but instead I think them being so divorced from what they do, taking songs they don't like from producers/songwriters and just kind of going through the motions with them (and maybe later doing a 'difficult' record once their career's already on the wane), is just a huge drag.

That anti-Shania rant above contains some literal lolz.

For the record, I'm subhuman. (Does Alex in NYC like The Subhumans?)

She might like all that stuff. Equally, whichever music writer is employed to maintain her MySpace might like all that stuff.

Some of that stuff may even have influenced her music, believe it or not (and not just the indie-style track she ends her album with.)

wikipedia says her mom is a singer / songwriter, so it may come from that.

i hope that doesn't give it away either

Other parts of the page are misspelled enough that I doubt they were made by the same author who included "Optiganally Yours" in the list.

Once again, I like her music and don't mean this as a diss. I think it's entirely possible, even likely, that she could have a fulfilling music collection.

http://popdirt.com/kesha-comes-home-to-nashville/77729/

Vevo’s ‘Area Codes’ features Kesha “Ke$ha” Sebert in Nashville (615). The 22-year-old talks about life in a tour bus, having weird influences because her mom wrote country music and her brother listened to punk rock, having a “redneck dumpster diving chic” fashion sense, and fulfilling a fantasy by debuting her video at a tranny bar in Nashville.

"Kinda think you're overestimating how important 'appealing to the indie audience' is here, tbh"

that's possibly true. maybe "appealing to another audience" is a better way to put it. but ever since robyn got some popularity outside of pop circles, you have to wonder...

do people still think that any white high school/college-age American being into indie/alternative rock is in any way remarkable or interesting or in need of some kind of explanation of backstory?

but ever since robyn got some popularity outside of pop circles, you have to wonder...

She got popularity outside of pop circles because she's Swedish and not actually played on the radio (in the U.S., at least).

Also found sources on Nexis indicating her mom was a punk before turning country-songwriter.

Her older brother writes for HuffPo.

Not that that's punk.

do people still think that any white high school/college-age American being into indie/alternative rock is in any way remarkable or interesting or in need of some kind of explanation of backstory?

― some dude, Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is the post I would have liked to make, which sort of sums up how I feel about the issue, although maybe substitute "suburban" for "white."

jam master, it does seem like indie kids like pop if it's swedish... that is quite true. but i'd still maintain that she probably didn't write the list as it appears on her myspace.

yeah you're right that class/geography probably have way more to do w/ it than race these days (xpost)

Obviously ymmv as far as 'interesting' goes but I think it is fairly unusual for a largeish pop star to do that dorky namecheck-ridiculously-overlong-amount-of-bands-on-yer-Myspace thing

xxp

This kind of looks like two different people's lists mashed together: the one with capitalized names is more pop-friendly and not nearly as completist or esoteric as the one following in lower case. It looks like they didn't even bother to remove the duplicate entries from the two lists. The lower-case list does look like the kind of thing someone might attach to their own list in order to ward off indie-blogger disdain. But this is all speculation - maybe the same person did write both lists.

fairly unusual by what standards? if we were talking about some established star who's been big since before MySpace/Pitchfork/etc. I might be mildly surprised, but I can't think of any pop star under 25 who I'd actually raise an eyebrow at for something like this. (xpost)

xp A few of Ke$ha's songs were recorded in Stockholm, fwiw (not that indie kids would identify her as Swedish because of it, of course.)

Get the idea that her Mom has been instrumental in helping her come up with her image and concept, too. (Not sure if she co-writes or not.)

how dare she

i thought this was gonna be some UK "wonky pop" bullshit

AiNYC had the flair for funny foofy turns of phrase way before loujag

Get the idea that her Mom has been instrumental in helping her come up with her image and concept, too. (Not sure if she co-writes or not.)

She co-wrote three songs on Animal, per AMG.

It's funny how many 0.5 star votes she's got on Rateyourmusic. I guess if she pisses off the demographic of that site that much she must be doing something right. I wish there was some way to search for albums with the most 0.5 star votes.

fairly unusual by what standards? if we were talking about some established star who's been big since before MySpace/Pitchfork/etc. I might be mildly surprised, but I can't think of any pop star under 25 who I'd actually raise an eyebrow at for something like this. (xpost)

― some dude, Monday, 15 March 2010 16:05 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I guess I'm specifically thinking about Ke$ha here, only insofar as what I know of her image seems to be very deliberately created and the notion that she would make a point of telling the world she digs, like, the Vaselines and Optiganally Yours seems to be at odds with it? I'm not AiNYC-ing here, just saying

ok, you're being reasonable so i'm not trying to be a dick, but think about your choice of words here. punk bands don't have deliberately created images?

Vaccuous Pop Irritant

Best band name that hasn't been used yet.

Once the spelling of vacuous has been corrected of course.

xxp well of course they do, it's just that for better or worse the punk 'scene' more explicitly prizes music nerdery... that was the only reason I was mildly surprised but tbh this is mostly based on my hazy perception of a pop singer whom I'm only passingly familiar with so I'm gonna duck out

there are good bands in that list but it's still pretty unremarkable imo

i must say the inclusion of Eric's Trip is pretty weird

Chuck linked this upthread but the permalink does somethink weird where it disappears the article and leaves just the comments, so:

http://aceterrier.tumblr.com/page/2, & scroll to the bottom, to the second to last post (which is very long). It talks about DJ Mencap's comment about Ke$ha's created image (and other stuff), and it's really good.

This kind of looks like two different people's lists mashed together: the one with capitalized names is more pop-friendly and not nearly as completist or esoteric as the one following in lower case. It looks like they didn't even bother to remove the duplicate entries from the two lists. The lower-case list does look like the kind of thing someone might attach to their own list in order to ward off indie-blogger disdain. But this is all speculation - maybe the same person did write both lists.

o. nate OTM here actually
xposts M@tt OTM too!

yeah, i'm astonished that anyone (VPI or not) would list The Dead Milkmen as an 'influence'. reads more like punk bro's old CD collection

i think she made the capitalized list first, then decided later to just add every band name from her iTunes in alphabetical order or something

or more like marketing guy tasked with creating her myspace page thought 'fuck it, I'm listing what's on my IPod'

It's just music she likes; don't be so cynical.

no, I think the problem is that we aren't being cynical ENOUGH

I, for one, am not convinced she actually exists.

Did anybody watch that episode of The Simple Life that she was on?

i think its p. important we find out exactly how authentic ke$has taste in music is

I'm just gonna assume this is Taylor Swift

hahahahaha

hang on wait i missed Cornelius the first time round

whoa

it's worth remembering that kids these days have plain terrifying access to music, that list reads like a succession of clickthroughs on youtube

ok totally take that back. this album has Dead Milkmen all over it. "Party at a Rich Dude's House" could be Taking Retards 2010.
see, I forgot because I'm a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-CB-6CUo7M

Party at a Rich Dude's House" could be Taking Retards 2010.

Or even Bad Party 2010!

"Party at a Rich Dude's House"

Or elsewhere, if we're talking old Alex heroes:

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-03/52749678.jpg

Personally, I more offended by the fact that it's Eric Singer wearing Peter Criss' make-up in the pic above than I am by Gene Simmons pressing the flesh with a stockbroker. Gene Simmons being an avaricious jackass is not breaking news.

peter criss is such a horseshit drummer

I love the notion of a "Horseshit Drummer" .... a messy assignment.

Regardless, the ruse is still unfortunate.

yeah but i think the point is that kiss is just as much of a vacuous pop irritant as she is

Uhhh, no. Vacuous? Maybe, but I wouldn't call Kiss a "pop irritant." Rock irritant? Perhaps, but I'm fine with that.

h8 ke$ha so much, all these bands r dead 2 me

what a disaster for MIA, Beck, Rolling Stones, Devo, Flock of Seagulls, kraftwork, Daniel Johnson, talking Heads, David Bowie, Donovan, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Janet and Sir Michael Jackson, Avenue A, The Go! Team, Mika, Sonic Youth, Elton John, Willlie Nelson, Gwen Stefani, Madonna, Beastie Boys, Eagles of Death Metal, Black Keys, Black Eyed Peas, Daft Punk, Electric 6, Teenager, Tonite Only, Prince,Mirwais, Afrika Bambaata, Peaches, Rock&Roll, Richard X, Cornelius, ESG,6ths, ackron family, al green, andrew bird, anthrax, aphex twin, aphid ant constructions, arcade fire, archers of loaf, ataxia, badfinger, the bang up, beck, belle &; sebastian, ben lee, beulah, big star, black flag, the blow, boards of canada, bob dylan, brian eno, brian wilson, bright eyes, built to spill, butthole surfers, the cardigans, the carpenters, casiotone for the painfully alone, the clash, the clutters, daft punk, the damned, the dandy warhols, david bowie, the dead milkmen, devandra banhart, donovan, dresden dolls, the eels, elvis costello, eric's trip, the fall, the features, fischerspooner, frank black, frank sinatra, franz ferdinand, futurheads, gary glitter, generation x, ghostface killah, gogol bordello, gorillaz, guided by voices, her space holiday, how i became the bomb, human television, iggy pop, islands, jackson 5, jawbreaker, jenny lewis, jim o'rourke, joan jett, joe jack talcum, john frusciante, johnny thunders, the killers, kimya dawson, the kinks, kraftwerk, LCD soundsystem, le tigre, the lemonheads, leonard cohen, little ones, lou barlow, love, the lovely feathers, marshal crenshaw, matisyahu, matmos, miles davis, minor threat, modest mouse, mos def, mott the hoople, the mountain goats, moving units, my darling YOU!, neil diamond, neil young, neko case, neutral milk hotel, neva dinova, nico, of montreal, oh no! oh my!, optiganally yours, ornamental wigwam, otis redding, the pastels, peaches, pere ubu, peter bjorn and john, pink spiders, pixies, pj harvey, postal service, public enemy, pulp, queen, r.e.m., r.l. burnside, radiohead, the raincoats, rancid, the rapture, the rascals, ratatat, the ravonettes, regina spektor, replacements, roky erickson, rolling stones, ryan adams, screeching weasel, the shins, the small faces, the smiths, smoking popes, sparklehorse, spinto band, squarepusher, stellastarr*, stiff little fingers, the stranglers, the streets, the streets, the strokes, surfjan stevens, the sundays, sun ra, t rex, ted leo and the pharmacists, television, tilly and the wall, they might be giants, tom jones, tracy + the plastics, troubled hubble, tv on the radio, U2, the unicorns, the vaselines, the velvet underground, the ventures, verde, violent femmes, the walkmen, wilco, wire, X, yeah yeah yeahs, yo la tengo, the zebras, the zombies

its $ad i know

In an era when you can hear so much music without putting any effort into it at all, it isn't even remotely surprising that a 20-something year old girl who happens to be a pop star would be into any of that.

Alex is just getting pissy because the clubhouse isn't cool any more.

but srsly she prob does not actually like $un ra we can all agree on that rite

she probably like lanquidity

likes

but srsly she prob does not actually like $un ra we can all agree on that rite

― ice cr?m, Monday, March 15, 2010 7:04 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lets be real no one actually likes sun ra

i heard she likes art en$emble of chicago

but srsly she prob does not actually like $un ra we can all agree on that rite

See, someone gets it.

i think she spun some tony william$ lifetime at lindsay lohan's b-day bash

but srsly she prob does not actually like $un ra we can all agree on that rite

― ice cr?m, Monday, March 15, 2010 7:04 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lets be real no one actually likes sun ra

― max, Monday, March 15, 2010 7:16 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u toke weed, u tell me

i never smoked in my life

ice cr$m

it's worth remembering that kids these days have plain terrifying access to music, that list reads like a succession of clickthroughs on youtube

Are you honestly suggesting that teenagers are out there rampantly downloading songs by Badfinger, Jim O'Rourke and Andrew Bird? Are you going there?

andrew bird is pretty popular

Why didn't she include Todd Rundgren...I hate whoever it is...

If you want it
Here it is
Click and get it

I do believe that teenagers are probably out there downloading Jim Orourke and Badfinger but regardless, she's not a teenager! She's twenty-three!

I do think it's true that a list of favorites means something different to younger people than it does to older people -- sometimes the items refer less to in-depth long-term fandom and more to just liking something from/about an act. I mean, older people will do this with pop music, where saying "I love Stacey Q" might just mean you love "Two of Hearts" -- if you're young and on the internet a lot of stuff can work that way! An internet like a giant radio where you can love an act for whatever part of them you come across.

Plus I don't even want to get into anything about whether she can "actually" like stuff like this, but I'm not even sure there's that radical of a disjunction between most of those tastes and singing this variety of pop song! I mean, this tends to be abundantly clear to us the other way around: you'd never be surprised that Jim O'Rourke might like HER, would you? Or that I like loads of things on that list but would be reasonably impressed with myself to have made some of her music?

i'm not surprised by her list, i'm surprised people actually listen to this hideous music she makes.

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I remember when I first heard this song, I remember thinking, "What the F*** HAPPENED TO GOOD MUSIC!!!!!!" sHE SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY DRUNK WOMAN AND SHOULDN'T EVEN BE NEAR A RECORDING STUDIO!!!!!! I'm a big music fan, I know exactly what I'm talking about!! Ke$ha is a disgrace to music!!!! [/b]Ke$ha's like a giant pile of crap on Mozart's face!!![/b]

An ilx username in the making?

So I take it I'm alone in think that the whole Ke$ha album is absolutely fucking awesome?

*thinking

amped-up grainy synths and chant-along hooks about not stopping the party = is the appeal really so mysterious?

Is it wrong not to always be...wait.

Ke$ha's like a giant pile of crap on Mozart's face!!!

super upset abt this, give me a min ok

Which Vaccuous ILX Irritant's "Stupid" thread is this?

Plus I don't even want to get into anything about whether she can "actually" like stuff like this, but I'm not even sure there's that radical of a disjunction between most of those tastes and singing this variety of pop song! I mean, this tends to be abundantly clear to us the other way around: you'd never be surprised that Jim O'Rourke might like HER, would you? Or that I like loads of things on that list but would be reasonably impressed with myself to have made some of her music?

― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Monday, March 15, 2010 8:30 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i mean...probably everyone on this board has a few favorite artists that noone would be able to guess just looking at a picture or meeting briefly, but there's always this feigned shock when famous people like less predictable stuff -- the old 'omg a rapper likes Coldplay!' thing -- as if they're not capable of the same dimensions as us. it's pretty hypocritical and condescending imo, to have hugely diverse listening tastes and then be skeptical of people who are young or pretty or rich or famous or just not on message boards all day having the same capacity.

if this is her actual influences list, she has the same favorite bands as everyone else on the internet

like i said

it's pretty "easy" to "download" "music" these days from what the "kids" tell me

no one dls anymore grandpa

oh right, they "upload" it to their "beards" and then "crawl" up the "red ladder" to listen to their "music"

now u talkin

I don't see a disconnect between having eclectic taste and creating shit music. I have pretty varied taste in music, but if you put a guitar in my hand don't expect me to turn into Elliot Smith.

Elliott Smith, obv.

also, where is it given that ke$ha's musix sucks ??

DJ BLOW MY SPEAKERS UP

VACUOUS HAS ONE "C" GOD DAMN IT

*ahem*

Carry on.

I mean, this tends to be abundantly clear to us the other way around: you'd never be surprised that Jim O'Rourke might like HER, would you?

I don't think so, no, but if he then went on to recite a long list of artists similar to Ke$ha that he claimed were influencing his music, that would strike me as a statement from out of leftfield

I don't see a disconnect between having eclectic taste and creating shit music. I have pretty varied taste in music, but if you put a guitar in my hand don't expect me to turn into Elliot Smith.

― musicfanatic, Monday, March 15, 2010 10:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Let's also realize, setting out to be the next Sun Ra or Roky Erikson isn't a sure path to fame and fortune.

...as sure a path to fame and fortune as partnering with Dr. Luke and Benny Blanco.

Her co-songwriter David Gamson was in Scritti Politti. Just sayin.

One of her other co-writers is Greg from Geggy Tah.

Not that I want to agree with the original thesis, but I can't help but feel that this notion that every young person (or thereabouts) with internet access is rocking to the Jim O'Rourke and Roky Erickson and Matmos and The Dead Milkmen is slightly inaccurate.

I agree, it's not going to be every teenager, or even a majority of them. But even 15 years ago when I was in high school, I knew girls from the cheerleading squad or the basketball team who would listen to Clash and OpIvy records. Sometimes people can be normal/preppy/popular and still be well-rounded or have eclectic tastes.

With Kesha, you have a performing-arts-oriented woman in her mid-twenties who comes from a punk rock family, so I don't think the list is at all inappropriate.

To be honest, the thing that has me most excited about this thread is that I used to listen to Void back in high school and had no idea that they were from my hometown, so I amended the Columbia, MD wikipedia page to include that fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzB5yYaw_bg

^ love her reaction to Slayer

Her co-songwriter David Gamson was in Scritti Politti. Just sayin.

OMG. That is way too awesome.

ke$ha might have good taste in music but she has pretty bad taste in listmaking

"less is more", "show don't tell", etc etc

then again given her musical aesthetic I guess I shouldn't really be surprised?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PlqRPu7td8

I hated the video version of the single but that live version is actually pretty damn good. Maybe it's just the production and the horrible autotune processing of the single that I didn't like. eep. When she sings it normally it's just fun bubblegum.

The best thing about C.O.C. was their tshirts.

lol @ "ackron family"

worst 4-entry stretch: "the streets, the streets, the strokes, surfjan stevens"

I hated the video version of the single but that live version is actually pretty damn good. Maybe it's just the production and the horrible autotune processing of the single that I didn't like. eep. When she sings it normally it's just fun bubblegum.

This was my wife's reaction almost to a T.

TS: Kraftwork vs Kraftwerk

This should be merged with the UK Funky thread.

all threads should be merged on ilm, since everyone knows that everyone listens to the same music, all the time, it is the only way to be fair. mods, please get on it.

Nas vs. Jay-z: Have One On Me

jayzanna nassum

sleepytime jayzanna muse

I hated the video version of the single but that live version is actually pretty damn good. Maybe it's just the production and the horrible autotune processing of the single that I didn't like. eep. When she sings it normally it's just fun bubblegum.

wow this is pretty otm - found the original all sorts of unlistenable but take the trebly autotune vomit away and the hooky bubblegum pop song is revealed - it's almost too nursery-rhymey and lite now. i said on the jukebox that i don't think her songs suck because she's incapable of better, but more because trebly autotune vomit is the common currency of the charts these days, and she seems intent on being more trebly, more autotuney and more vomity than anyone else.

talking of the uk funky thread, we are aware that for some inexplicable reason there are remixes of "tik tok" by cooly g and untold, right?

Vampire Newsom

I think her mom being a hardcore industry insider makes her getting seemingly random cred remixes somewhat more explicable.

Dreamboat Joanna

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezbyAQ9AOZg

(not lol enough that I'd listen to it all the way through, but it's cute)

hahahahahahahaha this is awesome

I tried searching for this thread but I couldn't find it because I forgot that vacuous was misspelled.

Oh that's right, none of you have EVER misspelled a word in your lives. Silly me.

cufk you alex

lern how to spel, it makes your arguments seems more coherent

oh right, they "upload" it to their "beards" and then "crawl" up the "red ladder" to listen to their "music"

― Mr. Que, Monday, March 15, 2010 7:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this post

Que has been on some next-level shit lately.

found the original all sorts of unlistenable but take the trebly autotune vomit away and the hooky bubblegum pop song is revealed - it's almost too nursery-rhymey and lite now

ha, that is just about exactly the mental process that led to me throwing together this bit of cheap:

http://agrammar.tumblr.com/post/450150718/ke-ha-came-over-and-was-all-like-gray-skies-are

I "never" make a spelling error, but occasionally "mistype" something and either "don't notice" or "decide to let it stand".

Hey look what I found
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4441352941_503cc11327.jpg

lolololol

Zzz

is that fugazi

she seems intent on being more trebly, more autotuney and more vomity than anyone else.

This is part of why: a) I like the single and b) I'd find it pretty interesting - not impossible to believe but just interesting - if Jim O'Rourke was a fan of hers. Her production aesthetic seems pretty antithetical to his.

"were a fan"

alex your schtick is becoming a little too self-aware. try to switch it up a bit more.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/who-are-kehas-influences,39338/

that performance is cassie-on-106 and park level bad

It reminds me of the T-1000 falling into a vat of molten steel, squealing and blurping and frantically trying to save itself as it cycles through all the different shapes it had adopted.

This is Avril Lavigne or Pink, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv6fDt7UkVI

Hi my name is Tim and I pay for my rent by wearing a giant TV on my head

so, to recap...

- terrible sloppy live performances
- 'charming' interview persona
- lyrics full of Jack Daniels name-dropping
- from Nashville

... maybe Ke$ha's just an alcoholic?

Makes me wonder if I was all that as a 23 year old alcoholic video store manager.

MIA, Beck, Rolling Stones, Devo, Flock of Seagulls, kraftwork, Daniel Johnson, talking Heads, David Bowie, Donovan, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Janet and Sir Michael Jackson, Avenue A, The Go! Team, Mika, Sonic Youth, Elton John, Willlie Nelson, Gwen Stefani, Madonna, Beastie Boys, Eagles of Death Metal, Black Keys, Black Eyed Peas, Daft Punk, Electric 6, Teenager, Tonite Only, Prince,Mirwais, Afrika Bambaata, Peaches, Rock&Roll, Richard X, Cornelius, ESG,6ths, ackron family, al green, andrew bird, anthrax, aphex twin, aphid ant constructions, arcade fire, archers of loaf, ataxia, badfinger, the bang up, beck, belle &; sebastian, ben lee, beulah, big star, black flag, the blow, boards of canada, bob dylan, brian eno, brian wilson, bright eyes, built to spill, butthole surfers, the cardigans, the carpenters, casiotone for the painfully alone, the clash, the clutters, daft punk, the damned, the dandy warhols, david bowie, the dead milkmen, devandra banhart, donovan, dresden dolls, the eels, elvis costello, eric's trip, the fall, the features, fischerspooner, frank black, frank sinatra, franz ferdinand, futurheads, gary glitter, generation x, ghostface killah, gogol bordello, gorillaz, guided by voices, her space holiday, how i became the bomb, human television, iggy pop, islands, jackson 5, jawbreaker, jenny lewis, jim o'rourke, joan jett, joe jack talcum, john frusciante, johnny thunders, the killers, kimya dawson, the kinks, kraftwerk, LCD soundsystem, le tigre, the lemonheads, leonard cohen, little ones, lou barlow, love, the lovely feathers, marshal crenshaw, matisyahu, matmos, miles davis, minor threat, modest mouse, mos def, mott the hoople, the mountain goats, moving units, my darling YOU!, neil diamond, neil young, neko case, neutral milk hotel, neva dinova, nico, of montreal, oh no! oh my!, optiganally yours, ornamental wigwam, otis redding, the pastels, peaches, pere ubu, peter bjorn and john, pink spiders, pixies, pj harvey, postal service, public enemy, pulp, queen, r.e.m., r.l. burnside, radiohead, the raincoats, rancid, the rapture, the rascals, ratatat, the ravonettes, regina spektor, replacements, roky erickson, rolling stones, ryan adams, screeching weasel, the shins, the small faces, the RACIST smiths, smoking popes, sparklehorse, spinto band, squarepusher, stellastarr*, stiff little fingers, the stranglers, the streets, the streets, the strokes, surfjan stevens, the sundays, sun ra, t rex, ted leo and the pharmacists, television, tilly and the wall, they might be giants, tom jones, tracy + the plastics, troubled hubble, tv on the radio, U2, the unicorns, the vaselines, the velvet underground, the ventures, verde, violent femmes, the walkmen, wilco, wire, X, yeah yeah yeahs, yo la tengo, the zebras, the zombies

list drunkenly adjusted to account only for good music

what is "kraftwork"?

what is "ackron family"??

daft punk is on the list twice

david bowie is on the list twice

how in the fucking fuck is the fall on a list of influences for ke$ha?????

kraftwerk is on the list TWICE

who in the fuck are the "ravonettes"????

"the streets, the streets"

im drunk

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6bw5m6fZShI/SxcgIDMZ4WI/AAAAAAAACt4/VLQyIizXxV8/s400/ed+lover+come+on+son.jpg

hahahaha A++ @ drunken ilxor

ha dude

fuck shit up

lol at

i mean

crossing out rancid is poor form dude, take a look in the mirror

crossing out bob dylan, leaving in mia/the yeah yeah yeahs/_____

that badfinger cross out means war

Bracket polls for Ke$ha's influences, please. Including double entries.

That definitely does not need to be a poll

This young people trying to be tough thing is a major turn off...even lady gaga is doing it.

i mean if you can't peep the joie de vivre of some spikey haired bros from the east bay who have nothing but a song in their hearts, well, i just don't know

Doesn't look like there's much rhyme or reason to what I crossed out, in retrospect.

lol

\o_O/

crossing out rock & roll is such a lame challop

lol just noticed she spelled it SURFJAN STEVENS like he's a surfer or something