Am listening to Stars In Battledress and they're kinda great! The songs 'I Spook The Language', 'Polished Floors' and most of all the AMAZING 'Doing Well' especially! 'Doing Well' might be one of my favourite piano ballads ever. So beautiful and tense. Plus, James Larcombe used to post here!
But this is also a thread for The Monsoon Bassoon. A thread for Silvery. A thread for Zag And The Coloured Beads. A thread for The Display Team. A thread for LAPSUS FUCKING LINGUAE who could have had it all but chose to grace us with fragments of a great confession. And a thread for anyone else who doesn't have their own thread, but made (or still makes) lovely, spangly, awkward music.
― that clitties version of "mr. que" (acoleuthic), Thursday, 31 December 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
N.B. Lapsus Linguae aren't really from the same school as most of these else; they're Scottish, hadn't heard of Cardiacs, and heavy as fuck. I actually think they're true originals in the purest sense, and that they are possibly the most interesting British band of the decade. But the others are all great too!
― that clitties version of "mr. que" (acoleuthic), Thursday, 31 December 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't see this thread! My Stars In Battledress pick is "Oh Engineer". I need to hear Zag and the Coloured Beads.
Did the younger Mr Larcombe post more than once or twice? He is the person who first told me I needed to hear Z+CB and that was a decade ago and I still haven't.
Drawing kind of a blank on other things to mention here, but since you like Cardiacs and you like heaviness, do you like Camp Blackfoot? Also not really from the same school but they did share a split single with Cardiacs. Their tracks on the split are not their best work, which is a shame because the Cardiacs side is ace. They are one of those curious bands that at the time I thought was just OK but I seem to keep thinking about them since they disappeared.
For some reason this kind of weather seems like exactly the right weather for listening to Spratley's Japs. I think I got it one snowy winter and still associate it with snow.
― ⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link
The Larcombe brothers other band Defeat The Young are worth a mention, although I'm not sure if they ever actually released anything.
― Ork Alarm (Matt #2), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link
They* had 3 tracks on a Day Release "singles club" thing some years ago. I don't know of any others, but there may be more.
* possibly not "they" as I think those recordings may have been just Richard L on his own.
― ⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I have that Camp Blackfoot split CD somewhere - I recall one track being really standout great. It was pretty hard to find anything else by them at the time, dunno how easy it'd be now. Maybe easier.
― Ferry Aid was a popular appeal and it still is (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
If you should see a Pandemonium Records sampler in a record shop for cheap (originally cost a quid, I think) then I recommend picking that up as it will get you the best tracks (in my opinion of course) by Camp Blackfoot AND Coping Saw.
http://www.pandemoniumrecords.com/uk/cata/ycompi98.html
I would offer copies of anything I've mentioned, as it's probably more or less out of print, but should probably go home and check I can actually find the CDs first. (Yeah, I really am that disorganised.)
― ⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Louis, have you heard Deaf School yet? I think they might be your thing. Early-'80s punk-prog. Perhaps a little more Jarvis-y than Cardiacs, but still formidable considering they don't seem to have ever registered on the pop map.
― dog latin, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link
this sampler is key to this thread:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XFPAAKFTL.jpg
tracks from the bassoon, foe, lapsus, defeat the young, etc.
http://www.last.fm/music/Various+Artists/House+of+Stairs+Vol+1+-+Useless+in+Bed
was never that into defeat the young/stars in battledress, though I saw them a few times. very, very clever musicians, but I found it a bit cold, pastoral and stuffy for my tastes.
second the camp blackfoot love, though.
and did anyone get kavus bassoon's knife world album last year? very, very good, if not a million miles away from the monsoon bassoon.
― m the g, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 11:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah! I have been wanting to hear Knife World for some years and didn't know that I could now actually buy some.
PS since I mentioned Coping Saw above I should poss. mention that they are nothing to do with this thread's sound at all. Just in case anyone with a desire to hear weird-assed chord changes thought it was a recommendation and found that there weren't any chord changes at all. But they have a fine slice of intense, chugging one-chord krautpop on that comp with some more on-topic bands.
― ⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:09 (fourteen years ago) link
louis have you checked out brainiac at all? i think you might like em.
― jack black is the worst jack black (stevie), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okRqEE39LsM&feature=related
― jack black is the worst jack black (stevie), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlynAfC39BM&feature=related
Talking of American bands, how about Extra Life? maybe it's just that the singing reminds me a little of Richard Larcombe e.g. on track "I Don't See It That Way" (on their Myspace if you haven't heard it), but they seem to have worked their way around to a similar melodic/harmonic approach from a very different background.
(NB I have v. little formal musical grounding so bear with me if I am out of my depth drawing parallels on grounds of "I think they are doing the same weird thing which I don't understand")
― ⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Took me quite a while to come round to Extra Life but I've a lot of time for their album from last year - some pretty thumping metal riffs on there too iirc
― Ferry Aid was a popular appeal and it still is (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link
extra life are fantastic. 'secular works' is possibly the best math-metal-prog-madrigal album of last year.
― m the g, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep Yep, I sent Louis a copy of the HOS sampler, thought he might be interested.
― Joe Pass Filter (MaresNest), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 13:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I started this thread after receiving that sampler!! It's great!!
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
CAMP BLACKFOOT - ILX poster 'everything', in sending his now-legendary consignment of Cardiacs CDs to moi from Canada in late '06, also sent a few MOTLEY odds and ends such as CRITICAL SEED VS THE SPARTAN SOCIETY by CAMP BLACKFOOT. Hence I have that album. It's VERY GOOD. Especially the mental 14-minute opening track. It fills me with joy whenever a song from it comes on my shuffle. A gnarled, jazzy, heavy monster-truck of weirdnoise. Confrontational and fiendishly clever.
Didn't hear Knife World. I need to. Oh yes.
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Brainiac were neat! Crazy mental punk. The world needs as much of that as it can get. Will relisten...
spacecadet, you mentioned on the Max Tundra thread that you knew of a couple of places to find out about this sort of music. Prithee?
*heads to Extra Life myspace*
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link
ok this is a FYI to everyone on ILX
if you hear a band like Extra Life, the FIRST thing you do is PM me their name
kthx
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
it's like a pop Kayo Dot!
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, well, I only meant that (I assume) such things get talked about on the Cardiacs forum and in Organ zine/website. Though last time I read Organ the ratio of bands I like to e.g. Raging Speedhorns was unpromisingly low, and now I look at the "other bands" section of the Cardiacs forum there aren't many bands I haven't heard of on the front page, so I may have been mistaken in those assumptions.
Well then, we will just have to make this thread the place to go to find out about this sort of music. Whatever this sort of music is. Right, let's get to it!
― ⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
the Cardiacs forum
which I post to sometimes! Found out about a band called 4.P.A.t.T. there. Seemed promising but sadly they're a band who prize being wacky and silly about 20x more than writing, you know, good music. Hence they come off as being really quite annoying. A couple of good songs, mind. The 4 is actually an a but I've googleproofed them because they're so obscure this kind of adverse publicity may not be ideal.
Also found out about Silvery. They were MUCH better. :D
I don't read Organ at all.
Like I say, that Extra Life is IMMENSE. Well, what I can hear of it is.
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
And yeah, THIS is the new home of awkward tuneful avant-rock!!! Wooooooooo! Come, all ye damaged.
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SctpF4SfMuU
― m the g, Friday, 8 January 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link
that wasn't bad! a bit shrill maybe tho? will try it again
what i wanted to say is that stars in battledress were really onto something with 'polished floors' and could have explored that expansive kitchen-sink wall-of-production vein a little more fully. tim smith plus a big strings remit equals joyness
― Inspiration for the sex robot sprang from the September 11 attacks (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mpprg8Bt1U&feature=related
They were pretty eclectic, kind of straddling pub rock and glam and punk and costello and lounge and roxy, but very original all the same.
― dog latin, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Sleepy People, '90s Festival band which may have formal Cardiacs connections buried somewhere in its twisted history. morphed into Ultrasound, more or less, and the much weirder Blue Apple Boy. track down Typhoid and Swans for the songs, live cassette Blunt Nails In a Sharp Wall for the craziness.
Speedvark. they sound like a mix of Cardiacs, Ankst-era SFA, Gentle Giant, and, i dunno, something dubby and offbeat, like Leslie Winer's album as (C) or prime Moonshake. track for track, their lone album (Pigeon Pop) is nothing if not an unpredictable listen. not every track is a gem, but there's enough promise here to make one wonder what might have been had success come knocking.
Eggs. another band that never went as far as they could have (for that there's Sisterhood of Convoluted Thinkers), but [i]Exploder</i? always seemed very Cardiacs-influenced to me. for all their talk of reinventing "white funk," they weren't doing anything Tim & Co. hadn't already done. and the growth they displayed between their Unrest Jr. phase and their sudden implosion was amazing.
― Mr. Hal Jam, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 04:41 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, i've got it! Long Fin Killie! that's what Speedvark sounds like. eerily so, sometimes. but "Gentle Giant" + "something dubby and offbeat" may already have conveyed that.
― Mr. Hal Jam, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
consider me intrigued! especially in speedvark. am already a big fan of that ultrasound album, i ought to investigate their various offshoots/forebears...
― Do the english boil pizza? (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow the new Extra Life album is pretty immense - I really hope more than ten people buy it, this probably won't happen but I do think a world where they crossed over enough to snuffle up some of 2010's stockpile of Dirty Projector $$$ would be a fair and just one. It's a lot less abrasive than the last record, though, so I dunno a lucky break maybe?
― i swear on my life i feel so powerfull (musically) (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 08:53 (fourteen years ago) link
looooove the new extra life, but I'm intrigued by the fact that you found it 'a lot less abrasive' - seems to me on the whole to be far heavier, more dense, more muscular than the first one. 'secular works' was pretty airy by comparison.
the increased density is especially true of the last track, 'the body is true', which is just colossal.
― m the g, Friday, 5 February 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^am gonna be on this shit ASAP
meanwhile, having seen the excellent but cardiacs-unaware thomas white a coupla times recently, i've struck up an entente with his drummer, one Damo Waters, who performs as Muddy Suzuki, and who IS cardiacs-aware
to spectacular effect
http://music.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.artistalbums&artistid=1440525&albumid=12760785
recommend 'chorus tortoise', 'after you' and 'escher sketch' especially, but WOW. mostly at 'chorus tortoise'. and hey check out those new tracks on his main myspace! 'tanks for all the enemies' is EPIC http://www.myspace.com/muddysuzuki
can vouch for this guy's character as well. he is A++++++++++++++++. and *astonishingly* talented.
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link
oh and check out this other band he's in! http://www.myspace.com/ataraxylondon
really nice alt-pop, 'la muneca' and 'ice on skin' especially - the lady from this band was also at TW and is similarly delightful!
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link
also 'amaretto'...these ppl nail SOMETHING i can't quite put my finger on - some sort of relumed 90's pop vibe that hits a spot
'ice on skin', 'chorus tortoise' and 'tanks for all the enemies' are the songs you HAVE to hear from tonight's i-just-met-these-people-and-they're-great propaganda sesh
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link
also 'd-punk/shimmering' is rapidly growing on me
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
ok this Extra Life is fucking IMMENSE. closing track has just started.
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
the last track is the clear winner, imo.
― m the g, Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link
ok that was HUGE
but on first listen I think 'The Ladder' might be my fave
this strikes me as the kind of music that will just get better every time. Kayo POP amirite
― ilxor lookin' boy (acoleuthic), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link
sea nymphs album predictably lovely
― the c4venger extort plan (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Told ya
― You Weaked It! (MaresNest), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Knifeworld album is great! How did I only get round to it now?
― coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
also I note MaresNest has a playing credit on the album. DUDE YOU SHOULD TELL ME ABOUT THESE THINGS
actually it reads like a big happy Cardiacsy/Monsoon Bassoony reunion party; Max Tundra, J Larcombe of Stars In Battledress and most of TMB turn up in there
― coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
ok this fucken closing track
(not that the rest isn't brilliant but come the fuck on)
― coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link
finally some video (albeit shaky and with dirty audio) of the guae on youtube. full set from 2006 gig at Bull & Gate.
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― murkle, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 07:43 (thirteen years ago) link
fucksake html fail
― murkle, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 07:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Extra Life's 'Made Flesh' is EVEN BETTER on returning, if that was possible
jeez what an album
also hurrah for the Guae footage, will dive in...
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 21 August 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I am late on this thing but I just found a podcast of Kavus Torabi-related stuff and things and an interview! I ran over here to post the link before I'd even listened, so please don't hate me if it's not very good. But how could it be?http://www.epilepticgibbon.co.uk/
Also hanging my head because the previous two show tracklistings include Joff Winks, who was local to me in Oxford for a while but I never saw, and Alright The Captain, who were local to me in Belfast for a while but I never saw. I suck, OK? (Haven't listened to those either, so maybe they do too, mind.)
― vampire headphase (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 27 August 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Should probably have linked to the permalink for future generations.
― vampire headphase (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 27 August 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
this track is 1:35 of pretty melodies and then 0:35 of holy shit what just happened
http://open.spotify.com/track/3Bgxm1dKUaLjRVmjUIDU7gAmericans go here http://www.myspace.com/toarmsetc and listen to 'Berries' for that is it (also listen to The Black Pampas for a passable VdGG impression)
― acoleuthic, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
the album's pretty good as well
― acoleuthic, Saturday, 21 August 2010 02:31 (5 months ago)
my god, listening to it again on headphones, my god my god my god, why was this only my #4 of 2010? oh I know it is because there were at least 3 other flat-out sensational albums released last year.
more people need to hear it. may colonise Johnny Fever's thread and proselytise it in a few weeks. Has the added advantage of being hated by Johnny Fever, so at least I'll cause annoyance
― acoleuthic, Friday, 4 February 2011 04:54 (thirteen years ago) link
THUMPERMONKEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCT7kioyXSU
Whateley is probably their stand-out track, but they've got an insane live-show, a new record coming out in September, and lovely kind hearts. HEAR THEM if you like the idea of hypermelodic math-doom-prog with close harmony and guitars the size of GIANT PEACHES
(or in other words, the above song is probably the single piece of music released in the past 5 years that is most mathematically precision-engineered to appeal to me)
― once a week is ample, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
Hi LJ, how are you?
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
Also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAYxGBZLQuc
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
I'm good! I have like 2 or 3 posts in the OAWIA bank coz I've taken to not posting or really even reading ILX of late, it's too much of a downer
Anyway yeah. Work's going well, scored 71 in a cricket match t'other week, married life is quite the bower of idyll (yours also I trust)
...but most importantly, I now have a reliable roster of bands to follow dutifully around London (basically, Knifeworld + those who sail with them, which generally means Thumpermonkey, and To Arms Etc, our scandalously-overlooked math-pop wedding band)
Do you have any suggested additions to the list? Perhaps we should convene
(oh and what about that song eh)
xpost
BARRINGTONE TOTALLY PLAYED THE THUMPERMONKEY GIG I WAS AT THE OTHER DAY!!!! They were fucking amazing and fun as a bun. There was an instrumental track that blew my Christ-goddamn head off. Melodic and rhythmic complexity closer to Autechre than yer average three-man band
― once a week is ample, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
I got into Extra Life b/c of this thread, very excellent stuff
Don't wanna bother you dudes but a list of 5-10 good records along this vein would be much appreciated
― frogbs, Friday, 6 July 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
Extra Life from Brooklyn? Nice dudes.
― sarahell, Friday, 6 July 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link
http://extralifetheband.blogspot.de/ = Extra Life broke up which is a shame but the new stuff sounds promising. p keen on the idea of the frontman doing a metal(-influenced) band
― Joanna Motorhead (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
POSTING SPREE
Extra Life's new one was very, very good if not quite Made Flesh, but it is hard to see where they could have gone from there as a three-piece with such a fixed and distinctive musical dynamic so not the worst news.
New Thumpermonkey album is GREAT and you gotta hit up their Soundcloud asap if you fancy bathing in joyous math-prog-metal-pop any time soon. Blackout is pretty much the most kickass song of the year and is what Muse really ought to sound like (even nicks one of their songtitles!) but never will
― torn between Carl Jenkinson, Scott Walker and Malcolm X (once a week is ample), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 08:23 (eleven years ago) link
I just heard it for the first time. "Ten Year Teardrop" made me laugh during the Weird Al freakout in the middle and I feel bad for it :(
― frogbs, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
feel like this band VIRUS are calculated LJ-bait, being as they are Ulver's pals from Oslo and rooted in black metal but not really anything to do w/ it at this point. the album I linked to is idk 70s prog meets 80s goth, but the good end of both of those. not coming up w/ anything more specific right now. also there's a Walker Brothers cover at the end. anyway I really like it
― ▼ardkore mort▼ (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 12 January 2013 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
^^^that was cool btw, need to give it a listen or two more
just dropping by to say that North Sea Radio Orchestra are making some of the best music, leave it at that really
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
God, I really love this Stars In Battledress they premiered at "Roastfest" back in 2011. Here's hoping the Brothers Larcombe can actually stop playing in other people's bands long enough to finish recording their second album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxLuAA7yDtM
― Pheeel, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
There's a song that they played me once years ago for the second SIB record called something like, Women of the ministry that is so fucking good, I've been waiting for those two to finish their record so I can hear it again.
― ジー・ニュー・マイ・ブラッディー・バレンタイン・リッコード・カインダー・ブローズ (MaresNest), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
Roastfest was amazing and I'm sad I missed half of it. I didn't miss William D Drake though, or SIB. That new song was amazing, as was Fluent English, which came out on the Believers Roast compilation. You know that James Larcombe used to post to ILX, right?
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yep, I know those bums.
― ジー・ニュー・マイ・ブラッディー・バレンタイン・リッコード・カインダー・ブローズ (MaresNest), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
can you tell them to hurry up and record album 2 then? and keep pestering lapsus linguae while yer about it
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
While we are discussing our decade-old House of Stairs-related longings, does anyone know who Desmotabs were? Bonus points if you have a giant stash of unreleased Desmotabs material you'd like to send me.
Extra bonus points if you have any of the electronic music that Sarah from the Monsoon Bassoon was working on after the split (according to my hazy memory of a drunkenly shouted and possibly misheard conversation at a gig) but no, I don't hold out any hope of ever hearing that, even if I didn't totally mishear...
I remember a couple of JL posts under his real name. Did he post more under a different name? My ILXmail should work if anyone feels moved to indulge my gossipy nature.
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
Desmotabs was a mate of The Monsoons lot, I am hazarding a guess but he might be the dude that goes by the name of Gasman that appeared on the Cardiacs tribute. I will ask if this is the case.
I have no idea if Sarah ever finished her solo stuff and I haven't spoken with her in age.
As far as LL goes, Callum is kinda the keeper of the fabled lost second record and most of it is done, they need to finish vocals and he intends to do that, but they are all over the map now, he has sneaked me a couple of roughs and they are awesome, so it'd be a real shame if it never happened.
― ジー・ニュー・マイ・ブラッディー・バレンタイン・リッコード・カインダー・ブローズ (MaresNest), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
Ah, I like the Gasman, have lots of his stuff! I did wonder if it was him as there are some similarities.
This is a pleasing jigsaw-puzzle-fit of an answer, but at the same time (if it is him) it's also a little sad there isn't some other elusive electro-pronker out there waiting to surprise me with a full album...
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
I'll ask Kavus, he will know, I imagine Desmotabs is kinda hard to google
― ジー・ニュー・マイ・ブラッディー・バレンタイン・リッコード・カインダー・ブローズ (MaresNest), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
The 2nd Lapsus Linguae album part-exists on YouTube as a Bull & Gate gig, and even recorded through a phone it's quite obviously a monster
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
I've emailed Calum and asked him to come on here and explain the sitch, so stay tuned.
― ジー・ニュー・マイ・ブラッディー・バレンタイン・リッコード・カインダー・ブローズ (MaresNest), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
XP - Kavus just replied, apparently the HOS track was it for Desmotabs (as far as released music goes) he turned his back on weird music soon after apparently, sorry!
― ジー・ニュー・マイ・ブラッディー・バレンタイン・リッコード・カインダー・ブローズ (MaresNest), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
What a waste! Thanks for finding out though.
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
what's a good NSRO album to start with? always meant to give em a listen
I'd love to contribute to this thread but I really think everyone who posts here knows every band I like :/
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
Hey frogbs, just chip in, I owe you bigtime anyway for the amazing amount of JP music you have uncovered and posted about.
Either of the two NSRO records are worth your attention, don't sleep on this either
http://shrubbies.bandcamp.com/
Craig & Sharon's pre NSRO band.
― nan machine (MaresNest), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe the Fibonaccis...but not sure. It's been too long since the last time I listened to them.
― opecimmac, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
There's three NSRO records! They're all good, though.
I always find it really weird that Richard Larcombe used to be in a band with, of all people, Iain Lee. They split due to Lee's commitment to his TV "career". He might've been better off sticking with the band in retrospect.
― Pheeel, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
All three NSRO albums are amazing. The first one or the third one would be best for starters, I think - the second one's a bit less immediate.
Loving MN's connections! The world of melody-soaked English art-pop is a smaller one than it perhaps should be...
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
Here's one off the third album that I'm currently obsessing over:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL4f_AP2loQ
William D Drake's solo stuff is absolutely urgent + key too
Roughly 1/5 of my life is spent thinking this is the best genre of all the genres, if it is a genre
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
Long-shot question: anyone remember a track by a band in this genre called "Popocatepetl" from maybe 10-15 years ago? I thought it was Lapsus Linguae but I'm not getting anything from Google.
― everything, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
Pop-A-Cat-A-Petal was Ultrasound's name before they were Ultrasound, was that what you were thinking of? I think they did release some material under that name early on.
― Pheeel, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
never heard them but wasn't that the name of the singer from Ultrasound's band before he joined Ultrasound
er xp
I've seen it spelled like the volcano too I think?
― Julian-Joachim Roedelius (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
maybe wrongly but
― Julian-Joachim Roedelius (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
Ah okay. This has helped. I think it's a track by them on one of the ORG Records compilations I was thinking of. I have to take a look through my old CD box.
― everything, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
i thought i had all the org comps but clearly i don't!
was going through boxes of 45s the other day to chuck in the skip and found a rich seam of monsoon bassoon records, timely..
― electricsound, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
Hmm, weren't all the Monsoon Bassoon recordings(including unreleased stuff) supposed to be coming out in a big box? Wonder what happened to that.
― Pheeel, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
Huh, I forgot about that, I was looking forward to buying it if it ever happens. And when oh when will the Deep Turtle retrospective finally come out?
(if anyone on this thread has not heard Deep Turtle, check out whatever you can find on youtube - There's a Vomitsprinkler in my Liverriver is a fine album and possibly the best album title ever - and join me in crying over the total out-of-print-ness of all of it. crazy Finns)
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
whole album, will listen now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ8mRPIC8Y4
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
ohhhh yes
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
upgrade that to *oh my fucking lord*
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
like a more seamless, less self-conscious mr bungle, but with possibly more range and better songwriting? and a slier humour? and more punk? camp blackfoot were mentioned upthread - their music is pretty much in this album's unhinged shadow (as is the mars volta, kinda)
each trilogy (interesting deconstruction of 'prog' as essentially consisting, short-story-style, of a beginning, middle and end) so far has been better than the one before it, and the first one was fucking amazing
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
alright, here you go (from a band I've been really digging lately)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLi1ivZ4cXk
― frogbs, Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
outside of the Cardiacs themselves I don't really find much modern prog that compares to the good ol' bands but lately I realized that I prefer them over Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, etc
― frogbs, Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
one more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-EqAxBJUjM
― frogbs, Saturday, 16 February 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
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― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/lapsus.linguae.band
― Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
Is that you LJ?
― MaresNest, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
once a week wasn't ample enough
― elephant's piss with milk and sugar (electricsound), Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
I get it, ta
― MaresNest, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
stay tuned for big project involving kavus from cardiacs/guapo, jg thirlwell, max tundra, bob drake, weasel walter, myself, and many more...
― Dominique, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
its really awesome how a hyperactive chiptune kinda guy like Max Tundra is part of this whole scene. keep us posted Dom!!!
― frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
*actually dies*
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 8 March 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
dom yr spoiling me so goddamn rotten I don't even
I mean
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Friday, 8 March 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah really...spill the beans here whenever it's prudent please.
― everything, Friday, 8 March 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
haha I will!
― Dominique, Friday, 8 March 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
This is kinda great.
http://superbestfriendsclub.co.uk/
― Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
Meant to post this a long time ago, but kept forgetting (ignore the video footage):
http://youtu.be/53omd2Bj2zs?t=52s
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Sunday, 24 March 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
dunno maresnest - it's kinda everything everythingy or gang gang dancey rather than cardiacsy, and it hasn't gripped me
wtf is that shit hexagon
― delete (imago), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
Bah! :)
Anyhoo, permit me to shill a little of my past. We just put up on Bandcamp a math-y thing I was part of a number of years ago.
http://foeband.bandcamp.com/
― Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Sunday, 31 March 2013 08:37 (eleven years ago) link
I already have that somewhere! (Thanks to you, admittedly.) It's very cool and I'll give it a good relisten today.
I can't get over how abysmal that video cr1msonh3xagon posted is. Out, negativity!
― delete (imago), Sunday, 31 March 2013 09:50 (eleven years ago) link
this Knifeworld album is really wonderful. I really hope another one comes along soon. I'm on my 4th listen, which is the point where I start to really unravel the structures of the tunes, and they're just so well put together. Miles ahead of Monsoon Bassoon (in my opinion)
― frogbs, Friday, 21 June 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
Like minded folks may appreciate this new HeatWarmer rekkid
http://heatwarmer.bandcamp.com/
― many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
not feeling it, sorry. doesn't have the magic. comes off precious, forced-twee blathering. gonna listen to actual cardiacs instead maybe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY_ekVg8e0g
^^^the magic
― ... Jenkinson ... Neu! military spending ... snkkt! ... Özil ... ... (imago), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
Your adherence to the thread title is kinda tiresome LJ
― many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
just giving my own goddamned opinion. or would you prefer silence?
― ... Jenks ... Neu! military£ ... snkkt! ... Özil ... ienjoyhotdogs (imago), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
sorry, it's a bad month/year, life stinks and Heatwarmer did nothing to make me feel any better, *whether Cardiacsy or no*
― ... Jenks ... Neu! military£ ... snkkt! ... Özil ... ienjoyhotdogs (imago), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
besides, soon the belated lapsus linguae will bulldoze thru these petty differences and unite the whole avant-prog division into a single unending rapture
― ... Jenks ... Neu! military£ ... snkkt! ... Özil ... ienjoyhotdogs (imago), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't asking for your opinion
― many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
what the hell, dude
― ... Jenks ... Neu! military£ ... snkkt! ... Özil ... ienjoyhotdogs (imago), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
*makes suggestion*
*instant review based on three partials on the bandcamp site ANCIENT CARDIACS YOUTUBE*
I mean fuck off yeah
― many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
sheesh it's like you're in the band or something
but your own music (at least, what i've heard of it) is a zillion times better than whatever that was, so you clearly aren't
― ... Jenks ... Neu! military£ ... snkkt! ... Özil ... ienjoyhotdogs (imago), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
maybe the first couple of tracks are duff. what's your favourite track? there might be a good track.
like, for fuck's sake, you made an album suggestion not two days ago (shrubbies) and I listened to the album twice through and *adored* most of it. it's not like i regularly shit over your recommendations. quite the opposite. one happens to fall a bit flat and you go all bovine on me, what the hell
― ... Jenks ... Neu! military£ ... snkkt! ... Özil ... ienjoyhotdogs (imago), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
this is why the left always fucking lose
― ... Jenks ... Neu! military£ ... snkkt! ... Özil ... ienjoyhotdogs (imago), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
^^^anyway, enough of this idiocy
stay tuned for big project involving kavus from cardiacs/guapo, jg thirlwell, max tundra, bob drake, weasel walter, myself, and many more...― Dominique, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:32 (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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I've just ordered it! Turned out to be the following mouthwatering confection: https://thegenepool.f-ten.net/items/1108.htm
Can't wait to hear it.
In even-more-exciting news, Lapsus Linguae have put a nearly-finished version of the EP up. It's terrifyingly good. And to think it's the unpolished version of the starter course: http://lapsus-linguae.bandcamp.com/
― they were untenable. they had to go (imago), Saturday, 28 September 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
The Exquisite Corpse Game is amazing :D
Pointless to pick favourite 'bits' - of all the devices to ensure full-album listening, privileging the whole over the parts, this is perhaps the most ingenious I've heard yet. Helps that the roster of artists have produced universally fine, mutually-understanding work
― check yr poptimism (imago), Friday, 4 October 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
Devious brownie-points to Dominique for completely changing his tune (as 'twere) with exactly twenty seconds to go, you big troublemaker you ;)
― check yr poptimism (imago), Friday, 4 October 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
I *will* say that Max Tundra is on fairly riotous form, even by his standards.
Sheesh, this record could have been called Amazing Segues: The Album. This is the proggest thing ever :D
― check yr poptimism (imago), Friday, 4 October 2013 13:05 (ten years ago) link
this is the first I've heard about the existence of this ... I actually want a copy
― excited about the intentional phallus-y (sarahell), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
wtf how have I not heard of this Mutation project yet
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
Imago, I have a question for you, if you'll indulge me. There is a post from some years ago somewhere on ilx (perhaps on this very thread) in which you mention the Liverpool band a.P.A.t.T. and mention that despite them being the kind of thing that you like you hadn't been very impressed by any of the tracks by them that you'd heard. Have you heard any more a.P.A.t.T. since then? Have you changed your opinion of them at all?
― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Friday, 11 October 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
There's a band from Liverpool called a.P.a.T.T. on the other hand who are yet to square their immensely whimsical ambitions with not sounding like a load of show-offy kids on maximum annoying mode. It's a sort of cutesy-arty-sans-craft melange of not-actually-very-good ideas with the occasional bright spark.
This the post, I'd forgotten than I could just put 'a.P.A.t.T.' into the search box, somehow.
― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Friday, 11 October 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
How very rude of me. There was a second album. I liked one of the songs, a silly spook-out called Two Fifths Julie Walters. There was an ever-so-arch straight-pop 'prank' called Yves Saint-Laurent which was awful. The rest I completely forget (think the opening track Liverwort wasn't bad though). Why do you ask?
― imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
No particular reason, I searched for a.P.A.t.T on ilx and found that post, probably years ago now and the thread just reminded me of them. I sat next to a couple of them once at a showing of 'It Came From Outer Space' with a live soundtrack by Pere Ubu at the Liverpool Philharmonic Hall.
― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Friday, 11 October 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link
I felt like I was in with the in crowd.
Haha! You were in with a crowd. Maybe their third album will nail it. Far too goofy-without-substance for me as it stands though.
Incidentally, this song is pretty much what the computer would come up with if you put everything I liked into it at the same time: http://noisey.vice.com/blog/mutation-napalm-death-the-wildhearts-and-the-fall-new-song
― imago, Saturday, 12 October 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
OK, just smiled for the first time today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWYqV4zxjkA
― imago, Saturday, 12 October 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
Error 500 is amazing, of course. The White Leg songs are pretty much roided-out Sing To God songs (thanks Jon Poole!)
The title-track from the Shrubbies album stands alongside any NSRO material, maybe (that's a monstrous call coming from me)
http://shrubbies.bandcamp.com/track/memphis-in-texas
― veneer timber (imago), Friday, 22 November 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link
What is nsro?
― sarahell, Friday, 22 November 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link
North Sea Radio Orchestra, one of the greatest bands in the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX2rUUcs0G4
might be a bit too reserved for you idk
― veneer timber (imago), Friday, 22 November 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link
Okay, so Regal Worm have been doing it for me recently and are not unlike Knifeworld in spots.
http://regalworm.bandcamp.com/
― MaresNest, Friday, 14 March 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
This is some of the best neo-prog I've heard
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Friday, 14 March 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link
They seem to be genuinely inspired by yer Soft Machines and King Crimsons without slavishly trying to repeat them
Now THIS thread I can get behind.
All that's missing is Uz Jsme Doma:https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/track/kapka-droplethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy3QkuY7ZU8
Long-running sort of pronk from the Czech Republic (I don't know why the video's pulsating like that in the youtube link though).
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 14 March 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link
Oh, there's an UJD video upthread. Oops.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 14 March 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link
Time of Orchids were something fucking special, and relevant to the thread I think. Both of their drummers have been/are now in Kayo Dot if that's relevant to you. Wonderful twisty avant-math-prog with some goose-bump inducing melodies (on their last two albums at least... their early work isn't so hot).
http://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/track/darling-abandonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwMizKi2Ilc
Former guitarist and drummer Dave Bodie are now in another cool new avant-prog band too!
http://infantephant.bandcamp.com/releases
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 14 March 2014 23:16 (ten years ago) link
Just finished Regal Worm, and what a fun trip it was - onto the rest!
MaresNest, what's the latest on This Is Puberty? The Kickstarter updates have stopped coming :P
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Friday, 14 March 2014 23:26 (ten years ago) link
Actually, I'm not too sure. I know that Calum is shouldering most of the responsibility when it comes to manufacturing, mailing and all the rest, he might still be dealing with the tail end of the Ghosts EP.
Oh and also, Kitten Pyramid are this other band that I have been digging recently who are a kind of electro/acoustically Glam/Barrett/Ayers thing with Atom Heart Mother interludes with possibly some very early Cardiacs.
https://soundcloud.com/kittenpyramid
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 00:55 (ten years ago) link
Also LJ, do you know this OLD rekkid?
The best thing ever, nobody cares and it sold bugger all but I still listen to it all the time, it's genuinely odd and lovely.
Old Lady Drivers were this pretty awful death metal joke band and then they truncated their name and made this which is more like a glacial, druggy Young Gods.
James Plotkin made most of it with just the singer iirc. The whole thing is on YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLm2ozVoiyg
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:14 (ten years ago) link
And it sold so badly (one of Earache's worst selling ever) you can still buy a new/original copy from them for a fiver on Ebay.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:15 (ten years ago) link
um, holy fucking shit @ OLD
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link
I listened to Infantephant and it was cool if a bit too noodly - will try again soon. Then I listened to Naked City :D
Time Of Orchids I need to devote a bit more time to, maybe over the weekend
Might go for Kitten Pyramid next, that's an enticing write-up
this OLD is simply magnificent
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 01:50 (ten years ago) link
Kitten Pyramid like a beefed-up, weirded-out take on Silvery's glam-prog shenanigans. They're fucking great
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:13 (ten years ago) link
Thought you might like OLD, such a shame nobody gives a shit.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:19 (ten years ago) link
Giving the Kitten Pyramid EP another go-around (it's a remarkably varied 12 minutes) and then I might explore that OLD record more deeply. It sounds like absolutely nothing else I've heard
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link
that OLD stuff is pretty cool. me likey.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link
I love the disintegrating end of KP's English Rosa, tons of fun
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link
Michael, the whole of that OLD record is a bit of a journey, worth spending some time with.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:43 (ten years ago) link
will check it out, its on spotify
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:47 (ten years ago) link
Listening to it in order. Halfway through 'Break (You)'. Completely overwhelmed tbh, this is insanely good
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 02:47 (ten years ago) link
There's one track where they just splice in 30 secs of an Old Lady Drivers bootleg or something for no perceivable reason, it's quite strange.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link
LOL literally AS I read that, it happened :D about a minute into Thug. They bleed the original song back in really beautifully, in fact
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 03:06 (ten years ago) link
Cover is great too, that calculator font
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Ke9I0GFSL.jpg
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link
oversaturated, weirdly-filtered photos are a particular joy of mine
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 03:16 (ten years ago) link
On the last track now. This has all reminded me, a very little, of Devin Townsend's quieter stuff, but much, much harder to place. Its obtuseness is delicious.
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 15 March 2014 03:19 (ten years ago) link
Yea I'm listening to it too, last track is a slight curveball, but it grows on you.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 03:25 (ten years ago) link
yeah just listening to it now. its a slippery divil. once you got a handle on it, it flies off in some other mad direction. its hard to place it indeed. a bit of IDM, a bit of skronk....
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Saturday, 15 March 2014 03:28 (ten years ago) link
The only clear influence - to my ear at least - is The Young Gods and even that only really applies to the samples and drums in a few songs.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 15 March 2014 03:31 (ten years ago) link
New Stars in Battledress! (File next to Lapsus Linguae under things I thought I'd never hear)
http://www.thegenepool.co.uk/items/1361.htm
New song is dreamy.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 7 April 2014 13:39 (ten years ago) link
Oh and re: OLD I've heard and liked the earlier stuff but never checked out Formula...
I don't know what I think of it yet, I'm still getting over the fact that Alan Dubin's *singing*
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link
oh that new SiB song is lovely
― halber mensch halber keks (imago), Sunday, 13 April 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link
have been listening to the O.L.D. album a LOT. atomsmasher is also incredible
I fear I haven't given Atomsmasher fair crack of the whip, I will revisit when I'm back from my hols.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 13 April 2014 13:53 (ten years ago) link
I've only heard one Cardiacs album, but I feel like Eldridge Skell's The Rude Staircase are relevant to this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzHXtG1wR-w
https://myspace.com/therudestaircase
― tao lin wolf (unregistered), Sunday, 20 April 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
that was cool - wacky & mad with a RIO/pronk attitude, although I wouldn't necessarily say Cardiacsy (interestingly, the first comment is from a chap who contributed a cover to the Tim Smith benefit album); its melodic sensibility is overwhelmingly Beatlesy, for mine. The most Cardiacsy band from America right now is, as far as I'm aware, Blanche Blanche Blanche, whom I absolutely fucking adore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eZ8_lD-fPk
― imago, Sunday, 20 April 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
I may nonetheless check out Eldridge Skell and his Rude Staircase further, because it had something of the Mr Bungle/Primus sado-masochism about it
― imago, Sunday, 20 April 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link
For no reason, Funzig popped into my head in the middle of a 12 hr flight yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayXBVNPariY
― MaresNest, Monday, 21 April 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link
I think the last time I listened to these guys was possibly around 1997.
― MaresNest, Monday, 21 April 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
discovered an american band by contacting one of their members on okcupid (lol)
anyway, they're a total cardiacsgasm, an absolute gas. welcome to the weird and wonderful world of pseudo/sentai: http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/
'nature's imagination (chapter two)' and the more melodically developed parts of post-laptop-theft compilation 'there's always a fucking problem' are thrilling & beautiful, and the band's got more stuff in the works
― imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
like, this song's got cardiacs coming out of any orifice you could name
― imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
Like that track, will investigate. It's demo quality reminds me of listening to scuzzy 3rd gen tapes of Cardiacs influenced bands like Mad Uncle Jane and Sleepy People.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link
have subsequently been sent their next album privately and whoo boy there's some good stuff on it :)
ummm track 18 of that album ('pyro cyclone dances the weathervane waltz') is also fucking amazing
― imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
sleepy people was ultrasound related wasn't it
― imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I think some of them morphed into Ultrasound, both bands I mention were very heavily and obviously influenced by Cardiacs, instead of just having a kind of 'spin' on what Cardiacs were doing.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
ah cool, ok
they're not usually seen with the extended family nowadays but I guess they burnt out a bit too early for all that
― imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link
Chemical Clocks have a new album. Maybe a bit more fusion than a lot of the stuff on this thread but amazing recording and very emotional for instrumental music.
https://chemicalclock.bandcamp.com/
tags: jazz avant-garde bass dance disco party drums electronic keyboard power pop trumpet video game western art music Seattle
― everything, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link
new Stars In Battledress is str8 awesome
will hear that Chemical Clocks thing soon
― imago, Sunday, 14 September 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
actually the new SIB is probably better than Secrets & Signals, it's that good
― imago, Monday, 15 September 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link
Chemical Clock reminding me of Jaga Jazzist slightly, except much, much, much better :)
― imago, Monday, 15 September 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link
My band were compared to the Cardiacs the other day, which I was kind of pleased about.
― monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Monday, 15 September 2014 09:15 (nine years ago) link
I've been waiting for that second SIB record since I heard Women From The Ministry almost 10 years ago, their crowning achievement.
― MaresNest, Monday, 15 September 2014 09:28 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I've heard most of these songs live, so great they finally recorded them though
― imago, Monday, 15 September 2014 10:43 (nine years ago) link
& yeah TWFTM feels like their Homesweet Homestead Hideaway moment. this album is fucking phenomenal btw, threatening my year-end top 2 or 3 alongside Jute Gyte and Owen Pallett
― imago, Monday, 15 September 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
Posted this on the pretty piano thread, where I'm sure it'll pass without comment but I love this track so much, def Tim/Sea Nymphs influence happening.
http://thegasman.bandcamp.com/track/aeons
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link
Same Gasman that did some stuff on Planet Mu?
― everything, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
Indeed
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
Same Gasman who was a Cardiacs founder member lol ffs
― Ѿ (imago), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
Oh wait, maybe not. Think I'm confusing him with Cawthra
― Ѿ (imago), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
Redbus Noface / Gasman is a helluva mixup, whoops
will check this
Yeah, I'll definitely give it a listen.
― everything, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
lol ffs yerself, buggerlugs :)
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
The Cardiacs extended family is a giant & knotty thing, worthy of its own discourse, fandom & writing; I make no apologies ;)
― Ѿ (imago), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
played The Exquisite Corpse Game for my sexagenarian parents in the car today and they liked it so much they borrowed it :)
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Sunday, 5 October 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
"Pinocchio Falls in Love" off Secrets and Signals is one of the prettiest, most haunting songs I've ever heard. Yeah hyperbole but the echo on the chorus just kills me. Damn, damn, damn
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 04:41 (nine years ago) link
I'm not sure if this is the best place for this but I don't know where else it would go:
Казма-Казма/Kazma Kazma
Ukrainian psychedelic rock band based in Kharkov in 1991.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyJxDUN33qs
― soref, Monday, 20 October 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
that person has lots of interesting videos on their youtube account in an 80s soviet post punk vein, btw
― soref, Monday, 20 October 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG1UFG3bKAo
this is a cover of a xiu xiu song that sounds a bit like a cross between Max Tundra and Prefab Sprout. I was disappointed when I listened to xiu xiu and they didn't sound like Max Tundra or Prefab SproutStuart Maconie played this on his radio show on Sunday 6/1/2013 and I heard it on the iplayer sometime in the following week and was going to say something about it on ilx but I didn't.(according to the BBC website he played it on two other occasions as well, but it was definitely the 6 Jan 2013 programme that I heard)
― soref, Monday, 20 October 2014 16:40 (nine years ago) link
haha this Ukranian stuff is fucking amazing
― joie de marsh (imago), Monday, 20 October 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
track two is like a bizarro Icing On The World
― joie de marsh (imago), Monday, 20 October 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
Thomas one veers more Jaga Jazzist than Max Tundra imo, but it's not bad at all
― joie de marsh (imago), Monday, 20 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
this Kazma-Kazma shit is SO. FUCKING. INCREDIBLE
― joie de marsh (imago), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link
http://www.bibbletang.com/funzig/mp3/funzig%20live%20-%20metronomic%20dog%20bark.mp3
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
kazma kazma is quite a find
― ogmor, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link
seriously. one of the best things i've heard in ages.
will check out that link after finishing with this new HMHB album, MN - what is it?
― joie de marsh (imago), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
Something new from this Canadian band Sprïng who I've seen a couple of times.
More on the psych side but definitely "vaguely-Cardiacy prog-pop".
― everything, Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link
Well they def know Cardiacs because there's a #Pronk at the bottom of the info window.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 11 December 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
I like it though, the singer really reminds me of somebody, maybe the girl in No Joy?
For me the vocals are the weak link. Live, it doesn't seem to matter because it's mostly a psych onslaught but I did feel like the album was let down a bit by his weak voice (though I still like it). This new track is the best thing they've done so far. The album is downloadable for free from their bandcamp btw.
― everything, Thursday, 11 December 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
this track comes off like if animal collective were any good
― imago, Friday, 12 December 2014 10:40 (nine years ago) link
http://oninlove.bandcamp.com/track/warz
Just found out about this rather great record tonight and I know nothing about it other than it features the redoubtable Craig Wedren from Shudder To Think and is total catnip to the STT fan I would think.
― MaresNest, Friday, 2 January 2015 00:51 (nine years ago) link
A very good, very Monsoon Bassoon-y band I got hipped to today, liking it lots.
http://listen.perhapscontraption.co.uk/album/sludge-tripe
― MaresNest, Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
:/
― my shoes are deception (imago), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
First thing to mind: "oh no, not them" - terrible quirky kooky burlesque quirksters more concerned with their matching steampunk-lite costumes than their music, which is almost wonderfully annoying and has made me intensely uncomfortable both times I've seen them live, the second time at a relative's work party where they cycled around trying to entertain children, more circus curio than artistic entity...
...unless of course they've changed ;)
Didn't like the last Knifeworld album much either, tbf - very much leaning to the NSRO side of the Cardiacs fallout rn. Have they got any plans?
Sorry to be so harsh but I really do have a thing against this band and I don't wish to sugar coat my feelings - I'm willing to accept they've sorted out their recorded sound at least.
― my shoes are deception (imago), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
Listen to their Radiohead 'National Anthem' cover and try not to sydh
― my shoes are deception (imago), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
Ah welp, I have no context for this lot or any idea about their stage thing and yes they are definitely a bit derivative, what's interesting - after looking at a pic- is there's not much brass/woodwind on the recordings. Agree about Knifeworld too.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
I'd def like to know what you think about the link above from 2 weeks ago, start with track 2.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
Oh, I liked that track and the one after! I then nominated the album for the EOY poll but didn't vote for it. I need to listen to it all in its entirety, may do by the weekend, cheers (am not at home rn)
Hopefully 2015 is a good year for all things Cardiacsy!
― my shoes are deception (imago), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
I'm still trying to form an opinion on the new Knifeworld album. The songs are pretty good (especially "Don't Land On Me") and I appreciate Kavus trying to stay away from prog cliches but I think keeping the songs more straightforward in parts kind of exposes what I think is some pretty bad mixing, especially in the drums. On the other hand, I've liked it more each listen.
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
There were some really weird mixing choices on the last Knifeworld album, considering Bob Drake is no amateur at that sort of thing. Definitely improves with each listen, though.
Family duties seem to've put NSRO on hold for the time being, sadly. At least we had another excellent Arch Garrison release last year, if anyone missed that.
New William D Drake long player out in March, apparently.
― Pheeel, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
"The first incarnation was founded in Bristol, March 2004. We blurted out avant-rock and psychedelic folk detritus ... The device began as a rock quartet; exploring bendy time signatures, maximalism, free improvisation and spontaneous theatrical outbursts. Herein a fascination with discord and harmony, (surprise and comfort) evolved throughout a feverish period of writing, improvising and performing on the Bristol music scene."
I was hopeful from this timeline/hometown + something about the sound of the track bandcamp randomly selected for me that they were something to do with Safetyword but they're not, are they? I'm afraid I stopped listening and listened to Safetyword instead but intend to revisit Perhaps Contraption again... eventually
― club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
OH - so the 'good stuff' is OLD! Yeah, they followed a dark, dark path. Will listen to the older stuff soon, even though I know what was to come.
― my shoes are deception (imago), Friday, 23 January 2015 01:07 (nine years ago) link
Sorry for confusing midnight post: I think they are a completely different band, who just happened to start at the same year in the same town as a band I quite liked (but not enough to post about here until now), and sound a bit similar during the 40 seconds I listened to before impatiently clicking away
however, if they are in any way related, someone please do let me know
(haven't got round to revisiting PC's music yet, but I am not really one for theatrical burlesque stage shows, that much I know)
― club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 23 January 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
Not cardiacs related at-all, just wondering what frogbs and LJ think of this craziness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=128&v=cT8mSZBJzJA
― MaresNest, Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
Botched that link somehow, sorry, it starts a ways in.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 19 April 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
Not Cardiacsy in the slightest but that's OK cos Hasuinonasa (I think I got that right) fuckin' rule.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 19 April 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
that was really cool!
― frogbs, Monday, 20 April 2015 00:57 (nine years ago) link
to contribute something, here's a cut from the 1st Birds and Buildings album, which I discovered thanks to this board, anyone who posts in this thread who hasn't heard it should check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVZHZ54w36s
― frogbs, Monday, 20 April 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link
that Hasuinonasa is fucking incredible :D thanks! oh dear, too good
Birds & Buildings are a known quantity - that first album is sweet, yeah
― imago, Monday, 20 April 2015 06:58 (nine years ago) link
Haisuinonasa, even - might spend some quality time on their Bandcamp today...
― imago, Monday, 20 April 2015 07:20 (nine years ago) link
Their new single is fucking unbelievable
https://zankyorecord.bandcamp.com/album/transformation
― imago, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Yea I am greatly digging this.
I love how the singer's voice has a pure, flat tone, she sounds like a Japanese version of Lisa Bielawa who sung the solfège in Glass' 'Music In Twelve Parts' so beautifully.
Additionally, I think I like it best when they just lean away a little from the hyper-kinetic, four-Don Cab-albums-playing-at-once bits, then it really morphs into a quite unique racket, to me at least.
― MaresNest, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Also their name is spelt in Katakana which suggests it's loaned from another language, weird.
― MaresNest, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:51 (nine years ago) link
Very nice.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
Did you know that Youtube animation star Cyriak has only 1 direct ILX mention ever? The dude is bringing Cardiacs to the people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnWP2Emps1M
― an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Monday, 18 May 2015 07:21 (eight years ago) link
I'm going to post the some of the ones with the best music, because he has the Cardiacs spirit deep within him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3JCESdFNyw
the rest is yours to surf. glad I could give him a spiritual home on ILX though
― an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Monday, 18 May 2015 07:38 (eight years ago) link
Those are amazing.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 18 May 2015 12:39 (eight years ago) link
The Flying Lotus video he did a few years ago was pretty great too.
― MaresNest, Monday, 18 May 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
Yeah! His own music is so great though
― an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Monday, 18 May 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLGUQA3Wjz0
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link
haha this is so great! jon poole and bob leith weren't really in cardiacs at this point were they? tim smith recruiting the actually-really-good tribute band, well i never
― an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
obviously jon poole 'gets' cardiacs like few others, hence his contributions to 'sing to god'
The whole "4 Little Boys" tape is as good as that. Jon was talking about a decade ago of doing a remastered/re-recorded version of these songs, but got too bogged down in other stuff and the idea was shelved. Shame!
Of all the various Cardiacs splinter groups, the most obscure one I have is probably The Grown Ups five track demo(and one extremely murky live bootleg), which was a short-lived Mark Cawthra/Bill Drake collaboration that only lasted a couple of years, with bits of the songs eventually incorporated into Cardiacs proper (London -> I'm Eating In Bed, Time And Space -> Everso Closely Guarded Line, etc)
The one I really want to hear is "Honour Our Trumpet", the band Bill tried to recruit Tim into before the idea of Bill joining Cardiacs was even a thing. Apparently recordings exist...somewhere.
― Pheeel, Saturday, 23 May 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link
Know nothing about this band other than 'bloody hell'
https://soundcloud.com/voice-coils
https://voicecoils.bandcamp.com/album/in-sixths-field-and-border
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/voice-coils/an-atrium#t=0:00
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link
Searing into the Extra Life void! Bet they even share some musicians
― the discussions, the slanging matches, the banter, the lot (imago), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link
yep, they do, it's a pretty seamless changeover except with a different songwriter and all. v promising tho
― the discussions, the slanging matches, the banter, the lot (imago), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
Good spot, I thought I heard some Extra life in there, especially An Atrium
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:10 (eight years ago) link
I always wanted to like Extra Life but I found the vocals horrible. But this is cool as fuck.
These songs remind me a lot of The Knells though
https://theknells.bandcamp.com/releases
^^^A wonderful record that absolutely no-one has heard of^^^
― meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 12 June 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link
Voice Coils sound amazing, Extra Life also sounds great. The Knells too.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 June 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
early split enz may have already been mentioned, but i hear a lot of things cardiacs fans may enjoy in the swingers (one of former split enz member phil judd's later band).
a lot more more pop and less prog, but they give me the same feeling of this joy in what music can do that the cardiacs do. real similar voice too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP-KW_Igw7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUMJgUHWRcU&list=PLGFqSwN7wWcZ20aywwCJVvZYssekZzJqE&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypm6E7cq-s&list=PLGFqSwN7wWcZ20aywwCJVvZYssekZzJqE&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyclnTdrSOI
they only did a few singles and one album - it's all excellent though
― linee, Thursday, 18 June 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link
oops, one of those linked to a playlist instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypm6E7cq-s
― linee, Thursday, 18 June 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
Heard this band called transElement recently, like most of the music in this thread they're not that close to the greatness of Cardiacs but who is, really?
But they scratch my itch for quirky experimental indie-prog or whatever you want to call it, it's a shame they haven't existed for over a decade and never really got their dues. They had their moments of brilliance, and I always love hearing a regional accent in music.
These are their best releases I reckon:
http://transelement.bandcamp.com/album/is-missinghttp://transelement.bandcamp.com/album/pendletones
― meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
Cool, will listen. That Swingers lot were ok but yeah, upon the Cardiacs scale they don't create much of a shockwave. I would argue that there is some Cardiacsy stuff that measures up, even if you have to look closer to Cardiacs themselves to find it (NSRO, for instance)
― the spieth hole-ease impresseth us (imago), Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
i love that album, but yeah it's definitely just early 80s pop music with an edge. similar voice though and with the weird trajectory from a prog band to a punk one to a new wave one - still these vestigial traces of each phase apparent.
that latest stars in battledress album... so amazing and manages to not go down that well well-worn extra-musical route of making this kind of music "funny" or "quirky" (a whole other thread)
― linee, Friday, 26 June 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's really lovely :) a superb record. the bands that make this kind of music 'funny' and 'quirky' are fucking loathsome in almost every case. don't ever google 'perhaps contraption' lol
swingers reminded me a bit of a band soref turned me onto recently...punishment of luxury, that's it. definitely a wealth of postpunk, now virtually forgotten, that mixed it up some
― rahrah avis (imago), Friday, 26 June 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link
to be honest, it took me a while to get past the surface-level "zaniness" of the cardiacs.
which is what i was getting it - even when stuff isn't outright zany. there's often this strange affect. like a beta-male (for lack of a better term) submissive clowning - making fun of yourself before someone else does? there's a pretty close description in that pomplamoose thread " like he has neither a sincere nor a sinister bone in his body, like a pod person who only learned to imitate zaniness". little bit unfair as they're a cover band, but that's what i feel while watching recardiacs on youtube. even some of those william d drake videos.
i guess what i'm getting at is that i'd love this stuff to be presented without being wacky or playing up the teenage "we're weird and you're not going to understand this weird music" thing. just some band that are really confident in what they do and not hamming it up as if they're like a bad actor playing up the fact that they can't act very well.
it is just surface-level aesthetic that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the music. but it's kind of a framing device that prevents people (like me!) from getting into this stuff. i guess it could be historically it's probably a kind of backlash to the prog affect of being ultra-serious and humourless. or just aspects of zappa coming into atavistic being.
― linee, Saturday, 27 June 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link
your criticism seems to be based almost entirely on the 'tarred and feathered' video, which is much more sly and layered than it may at first seem. 'beta-male' is obviously preposterous - their act has always been, imo, a grand play upon exaggerated universals - the themes are down to earth and serious, concerning mortality, childhood, existential despair, the pastoral, aesthetics, war, religion, friendship, possessiveness, love etc, but the canvas is an intense & highly poetic extroversion that is easy to mistake (at a distance) for quirkiness, preciousness or insincerity. quite obviously cardiacs, behind (or even through) the hi-jinks (if you look close enough), are one of the most sincere bands that have ever been. Even in character, 'beta-male submissive clowning' doesn't work - they operated as a thoroughly savvy art-troupe, with Jim as put-upon victim, Tim as domineering bully and the others as clowns only in the purest sense. it really, really doesn't come across as gratuitous weirdness unless you're only paying half-attention. the 'hamming it up' is integral to the totalising synthesis of their commentary upon life (surface-level aesthetic almost always has loads to do with the music). have you read their lyrics? it's some of the most affecting and profound material in the english-language songwriting canon. they're trying to convey the grand, rich weirdness and pathos of life itself - of course they're going to open themselves up to the brickbats of the world somewhat.
you fucking compared cardiacs to pomplamoose! omfg. tim smith is ALL sincerity, ALL sinistral menace, ALL joy of the world, ALL love, ALL frenzy. this kind of criticism is fearful of just how ALL cardiacs are - when forced to countenance it, retreating into awful lazy melody maker stereotypes and tossed-off cliches about youthful exuberance and wackiness. cardiacs are only wacky or zany insofar as they use wackiness and zaniness as part of their press relations satire, in order to keep a barrier between themselves and the mundane ignorance of the music press
it has nothing whatsoever to do with prog being ultra-serious and humourless (it wasn't) and everything to do with tim smith being an incredibly generous man
― rahrah avis (imago), Saturday, 27 June 2015 02:02 (eight years ago) link
^^^ wot he said
― frogbs, Saturday, 27 June 2015 02:34 (eight years ago) link
oh no, you've got me completely wrong! i LOVE cardiacs now. i just remember being initially put off by the videos and especially the alphabet business concern stuff. seemed a bit sixth-form and done better by the residents or early devo but it doesn't really bother me now. like you say, some of it totalizes the experience and what they're trying to get across.
my criticism was on the other stuff vaguely in this vein that is getting it WRONG - like the perhaps contraction stuff or how i see re-cardiacs. i just wonder how to or why that kind of thing i describe is inherent in the dna of this stuff somehow. i guess it's a bit chicken in the egg as perhaps it's a certain type of person who is attracted to this stuff.
and then there's the difficultly of how do you present this stuff otherwise? it's like hearing minor chords as "sad" or 12 tone music as "scary" - they're just popular constructs. or is there's something inherently clownish and hammy about doing this kind of thing?
"tim smith is ALL sincerity, ALL sinistral menace, ALL joy of the world, ALL love, ALL frenzy" - love this
― linee, Saturday, 27 June 2015 03:31 (eight years ago) link
tbh i've no experience whatsoever of the 'cardiacs' but imago's post warms my heart :)
― drash, Saturday, 27 June 2015 03:57 (eight years ago) link
― linee, Saturday, 27 June 2015 02:36 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Totally agree re: Recardiacs. That woman's attempt to imitate Tim's "disturbed child" persona were painful to watch. I appreciated what they were trying to do in terms of bringing this music to an audience who would never normally encounter it, but if I was seeing them cold with no knowledge of the source, I think I'd just be bemused more than anything.
It's like the difference between the critical perception of Cardiacs as a bunch of pretentious art students dressing up as weirdos on stage, and what they were really like(i.e. actual weirdos), but in this case it's very much more of the former.
― Pheeel, Saturday, 27 June 2015 09:58 (eight years ago) link
oh fuck
sorry linee, i had somehow managed to escape knowing about recardiacs until this day. i think i will abstain from listening
― rahrah avis (imago), Saturday, 27 June 2015 10:20 (eight years ago) link
Brilliant post up there imago.
I'm quite suspicious of mugging and zaniness myself but for me sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's all about how genuine or contrived they come across. I admit maybe if I'd seen Cardiacs' early antics first it may have put me off but luckily I heard Eat it up Worms Hero first without knowing anything about them and it completely melted my brain. As far as musical experiences go that's rarely been matched.
― meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 27 June 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
The new William D Drake is out, btw, and it's really lovely, if not quite on the level of Rising Of The Lights (on first listen) - it's a bit simpler, for a start, and a bit more 'wacky', I suppose ;)
Songwriting is still largely delightful
― rahrah avis (imago), Sunday, 28 June 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
really coming through on the second listen, stuff like 'the blind boy' is key
― rahrah avis (imago), Sunday, 28 June 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
and then 'castaway'/'revere reach' are the 'me fish bring'/'homesweet homestead hideaway', sort of (they're more like 2x 'me fish bring' tbh, but with cool synth textures n shit)
― rahrah avis (imago), Sunday, 28 June 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
Only disappointment for me was it feels a bit short, considering the crazy amount of songs he has that have never been on any records. Still waiting for him to record "Ghosty Ghost", "Philosophy Of Love", "The Donkey Song", etc.
OTOH it's probably his best produced/arranged album yet, it just sounds really, really lush all the way through. And hearing some of the long-time favourites from his live repertoire properly fleshed out is really cool.
― Pheeel, Sunday, 28 June 2015 22:36 (eight years ago) link
yeah Revere Reach is kind of amazing now
― gawker's psychotic monkeys (imago), Friday, 24 July 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
'Be Here Steryear' is the sort of thing you listen to 8 times and then the 9th you realise it's extraordinary, WD Drake has a habit of this
― gawker's psychotic monkeys (imago), Sunday, 26 July 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
Thumpermonkey related, I'm told.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzTF06syVOU&feature=youtu.be
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
Thumpermonkey have an album out soon. I'm quite excited. Will listen to this now...
― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
Oh this is cool! Yeah the Thumpermonkey connection is the drummer, who is amazing
― Yul Brynner playing table tennis with a deviled kidney (imago), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
WD Drake is playing the Union Chapel on 17th Oct, 12:00-14:00
― koogs, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 04:55 (eight years ago) link
Some movement at least, from a guy's Facebook page.
"In October 2013, as part of a crowd-sourcing campaign to release their album, Lapsus Linguae offered a custom song. I promptly bought this, and here it is.Obviously I chose the only thing I care about as the subject, my cat, Matilda. To say I am over the moon with it would be an understatement. Thanks Calum, we love it."
https://soundcloud.com/jamesre-1/make-up-a-basket-in-my-dreamz-lapsus-linguae
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link
^this was cool. any subsequent news? come back lapsus linguaeeeee
'revere reach' is up there with the albums of the year, it's so so good. should i start a dedicated WD Drake thread? maybe some people will see Drake and click on it unawares
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
Idk why but I don't like Bill Drake's music. I'm sorry.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
chill, you're probably just not in touch with your inner twee pastoralist ;)
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, maybe. I mean I love the Sea Nymphs and NSRO obviously but to me it feels like Drake's trying too hard to be cute a lot of the time
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
o tbf if you look upthread that was kind of my initial instinct too but then it got me
'be here steryear' & the title-track def worth a review imo
― twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 8 October 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
~JOANNA WANG~
― probably.tasteful.forever (imago), Tuesday, 29 December 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link
I don't know if Joanna Wang has heard Cardiacs, or Max Tundra, or just videogame music, but holy shit
― probably.tasteful.forever (imago), Tuesday, 29 December 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link
think we've triangulated her somewhere between eleanor friedberger, kate bush and micachu, although the above artists are there in spadefuls too. and blanche blanche blanche.
she's awesome. and to think the english-language internet just hasn't heard of her. jesse nominating her for the ILX EOY and her subsequent appearance on the albums playlist is the only conceivable way we could have found out about her. how much other stuff like this must there be out there?
― probably.tasteful.forever (imago), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 12:03 (eight years ago) link
Hmm. I was a bit confused after clicked on one of her early videos and got something that sounded a bit like Nora Jones.
Then I got to this one, and it was like "Ohh, I see." Suddenly all the comparisons make sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hF8-Jeg3Y
I'm guessing this must be a new direction for her, because there are a ton of comments from bewildered fans saying stuff like "WTF is this why did you change?? :("
― Pheeel, Thursday, 31 December 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
I listened to her 2013 album 'Galaxy Crisis: The Strangest Midnight Broadcast' and it's practically just as crazy, maybe a tiny bit less developed but still great - surely the fans would have caught on by then? This is slightly madder tbf
― probably.tasteful.forever (imago), Thursday, 31 December 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
Reading the Youtube comments for her new videos is amazing, like, people just don't know what to do
I listened to some of her early stuff and it's just the most mundane music on Earth. Clearly she was made to do it by her seniors. Fuck you, this is what I sound like now! :D
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
when did she make the leap to this? I found some of her old videos too and she is just shockingly bland, I've never heard of anyone making a jump quite like that
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link
She was the 16 year-old daughter of a noted Taiwanese pop producer when the early stuff came out. He probably 'encouraged' her to 'launch' her own career with these 'tasteful' covers and rip-offs.
Then she, uh, broke free.
The videos for the whole album are amazing btw
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
She's apparently come out and completely disowned her early stuff. Good on her
I would guess 2011's "Adventures of Bernie the Schoolboy" is probably the start, check this out, it's like Guernica:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUxzL6IGA7s
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
ah yeah, nice
it seems she's just been getting better and better though. this new album is sensational
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
pretty much anything I can find on her only covers her music from 2008-2009. clearly she was quite popular which makes the whole thing a lot more fun. I always hoped that some big pop star over here would do something like that, I guess Miley Cyrus is the most likely candidate right now but I haven't found her "out there" stuff to be all that exciting thus far.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
well, check this out
https://www.reddit.com/r/iama/comments/k3vbe/i_am_a_taiwanese_celebrity_ama
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link
yes! haha, I've covered Sparks "This Town Ain't Big Enough for the Both of Us" using purely the voice of Skeletor at a music festival. I think all the "Joanna Wang" fans were like ????. But the next day the reviews in the papers still said it was a soothing performance. It's moments like when I just feel like I must be the last sane person on the planet.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link
haha god
yeah she seems fairly singular. still has a sony contract, my god
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
Apparently she's internet friends with Neil Cicierega, which explains a lot.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
And she recorded this cover of his song Bill Watterson back in 2007.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link
This will likely only make sense to frogbs.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link
apparently a TMBG fan as well. this hits a little too close to home, now I wonder if she does know about Cardiacs because I can't imagine someone more predisposed to go bonkers over them
― frogbs, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link
and Neil's tumblr JUST NOW has a post about her? what the hell is going on!?
b0bbarker asked: Did you recently possess the body of a Taiwanese woman named Joanna Wang and release an album last year called Bob Music? Because it sure sounds like you did. And by that I mean go look up songs like Truckin Everyday and When I Nod.NO LIE, I’ve been internet pals with her for years! She sent me an acoustic cover of Bill Watterson back in 2007. We catch up over gchat every couple months and share what we’ve been working on.She’s had a really interesting career: She debuted as a very successful singer in Taiwan, mostly of mainstream-sounding covers. But over the past several years she’s totally reinvented herself as this eclectic, synthy baroque pop monster.
NO LIE, I’ve been internet pals with her for years! She sent me an acoustic cover of Bill Watterson back in 2007. We catch up over gchat every couple months and share what we’ve been working on.
She’s had a really interesting career: She debuted as a very successful singer in Taiwan, mostly of mainstream-sounding covers. But over the past several years she’s totally reinvented herself as this eclectic, synthy baroque pop monster.
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 January 2016 02:33 (eight years ago) link
Oh that's easy to explain. I'm b0bbarker, and I too am kind of internet pals with Neil, going back his animutation days and was the one who asked him the question on Tumblr. We also used to share crazy stuff together, back when I used to make really silly mashup mixes, which he had cited as kind of being the influence for Mouth Sounds.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 7 January 2016 04:24 (eight years ago) link
hah, I remember some of your stuff from way back in the day! I think I have an Aaron Ackerson CD with one of your remixes on it. I figured it had to be someone from here!
I always thought Neil was capable of making something that would fit right in this thread but he just seems to be doing so much at once. dude's pretty talented though
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 January 2016 04:51 (eight years ago) link
Yep. I'm on the Sexiest Man on Earth.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 7 January 2016 05:09 (eight years ago) link
― frogbs, Wednesday, January 6, 2016 4:51 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I feel like there are some similarities in the strange career path of Charlotte Church - million-selling classical music star to a kind of Welsh Bjork, putting out obscure, personal music heard by very few.
I mean honestly, who could've predicted the Voice Of An Angel would end up recording stuff as odd as this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhrBm6WuIsI
― Pheeel, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link
i keep saying it but i was at school with her long-term partner (he wasn't back then) and he was the world's biggest radiohead fan, so it was always coming
― ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link
that song there^ gets interesting in its last 5 seconds, then ends. that should have been how it started haha
― ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link
But there's so much going on it! The strings, the tempo shifts, the weird jazzy flourishes. I don't like everything she's done since "breaking out" - she still Bonnie Tylers it up a bit too much on the choruses for my liking - but I'm always intrigued by what she's going to do next.
― Pheeel, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:44 (eight years ago) link
ok fine, the last minute as a whole was quite something
― ZESTY O'PRIDE (imago), Tuesday, 2 February 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link
the EP she did after ^that one reminded me of Dirty Projectors in parts iirc, it was decent
― Skaciety (pronounced the way you'd pronounce society) (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link
I didn't know about this direction she went in, but it makes sense since her Quietus bakers dozen choices were surprisingly good. I just knew about the earliest stuff and her couple of singles chart pop songs that I didn't like.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link
Posted about this Lemon Demon album earlier, but actually, this was the right place all along:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LeSFBy2bZU
― propaganda for the American springtime (tangenttangent), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
https://jlarcombe.bandcamp.com/
― MaresNest, Monday, 11 April 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link
Lemon Demon of course being Neil Cicierega, the missing link between Cardiacs and Joanna Wang (he loves them, she loves him). Will check out that J Larcombe thing presently...
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link
Please allow me to big-up / draw your attention to Mr Sterile Assembly, particularly the album Transit. Kinetic compound time-sigs, twin basses, sax skronk, some gamelan thing, female / male vocals, "political" lyrics that aren't totally shit. Just ideal and excellent in its own way, really.
http://mrsterileassembly.bandcamp.com/album/transit
― Noel Emits, Monday, 18 April 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link
This Heaty prog-pop
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 18 April 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link
I mean, it's pretty good! Not remotely Cardiacsy but hey, you got my attention :)
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 18 April 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
Well, vaguely. They posted the video for Stella on the Cardiacs Facebook page a while back, so they are at least 'aware'. Also toured with Uz Jsme Doma, I think. Or attempted to. But yes, This Heat is a good reference point. I dig it a lot, anyway.
― Noel Emits, Monday, 18 April 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link
Big Cardiacsy week - new Knifeworld AND new Display Team! The latter is fucking amazing and VERY Cardiacstastic: https://thedisplayteam.bandcamp.com/album/shifts
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 25 April 2016 10:31 (eight years ago) link
I admit I haven't really felt what Knifeworld have been doing since the Clairvoyant Fortnight EP. That and the first album are wonderful though.
What little I've been able to hear of The Display Team seems good, getting heavy Uz Jsme Doma vibes more than anything else.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 25 April 2016 11:12 (eight years ago) link
yeah I'm not 100% on this Knifeworld or the last one, although I did listen to the last one again recently and it was better this time so who knows, they might have become a grower band
I was at The Display Team's album launch the other night, they were really really great and so were Thumpermonkey, whose definitely-going-to-be-incredible album isn't coming for like another half-year ffs
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 25 April 2016 11:14 (eight years ago) link
I recently relistened to both the Knifeworld discs I have, Buried Alone is still great, The Unraveling I'm still not 100% on though I think that's mostly down to the production. Just really trebly and quiet in a way that flattens the drums. But it is pretty good because the tunes are really clever, once you start to get into them a bit. "Don't Land On Me" is definitely my favorite. Guess I'll give this new one a listen as soon as it arrives.
― frogbs, Monday, 25 April 2016 12:47 (eight years ago) link
Lemon Demon - Spirit Phone is still the best Cardiacsy album of the year, probably. (Best album full stop?) Come on, we can't let a Yank eclipse us all ffs! ;)
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 28 April 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link
I'm a little behind on recent developments, so glad of this thread
― MaresNest, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:23 (seven years ago) link
The Display Team reminds me very much of The Monsoon Bassoon
― MaresNest, Thursday, 28 April 2016 10:27 (seven years ago) link
^ Yes, I did enjoy that and bought it, it hit all the right buttons and never falls in love with it's own quirkiness
...speaking if which, kinda, recently I got this CD of this weird Japanese band which I rather like but their approach to sensory overload is pretty muddled compared to Cardiacs.
This isn't on the record I have but the sample at 0:16 second mark should be awfully familiar. The video's NSFW btw (snatches of cartoon dick...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0Zu2B_kak&ab_channel=ncnvid
But this song's legitimately a CHOOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw6bcGr3Shs&ab_channel=BounDEETube
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:21 (seven years ago) link
Fuck I thought I worked out how to not embed things but obviously not
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link
It's been real fun to watch this guy's chief influence go from They Might be Giants to Devo to Sparks to Cardiacs. If this gets serious AOTY consideration (and it should!) I'd be thrilled.
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link
lol @ that sample + what was onscreen while it occurred
You mean Lemon Demon, right? (to ultros)
Cicierega's clearly spent a helluva long time on this record (like, to the extent where his video output has visibly diminished). It sounds absolutely magnificent.
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link
No I was talking about Display Team, haven't listened to Lemon Demon yet
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link
Oh ok! Both might end up in my year-end top 5 TBH, alongside KING, Thumpermonkey and some mad metal
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link
by the way I got the new Knifeworld and I like it on first listen. songs are catchier and more distinct, and the songs are plenty ambitious without being long. if nothing else check out the leadoff track/single
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzXVxOT8an0
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
yah I'm about to give the Knifeworld a full listen
this second Hosome track is great! :D will definitely check them out more
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link
Okay permit me a faint derail in tonality.
Skeletons have a new record out, I'm a big fan of their steez, the record People especially and some people here may dig.
Grandma from 'People'
https://skeletonstv.bandcamp.com/album/people
Track from the new rekkid.
https://skeletonstv.bandcamp.com/album/am-i-home
― MaresNest, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link
Here's a Lemon Demon track I've really been digging lately. Feelin' like Sparks could've written this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JniShTWwJn4
― frogbs, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link
OK I finally listened to Lemon Demon, some of it I kind of enjoy and some of it I profoundly hate, but have a weird urge to keep listening to it. Fuck. Must say I can't hear any Cardiacs in it at all, Devo and Sparks comparisons are about right.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 5 May 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link
New-ish track from the new Bob Drake album, if the whole record is in the same ballpark, I'm so on board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCX-xhFlSl4
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 07:26 (seven years ago) link
I checked out Spirit Phone and these are almost my thoughts exactly, except I feel a lot more positive about it. There are a handful of songs I find annoying (towards the end of the album, not including bonus tracks), but I like all the rest, and there are a few I absolutely love. And yeah, I don't get the Cardiacs comparisons, but I hear so much other awesome stuff here -- Sparks, Devo, TMBG, Telex, Buggles, Chris Butler, Todd Rundgren, Magnetic Fields...
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link
An article of interest:
http://thequietus.com/articles/20188-kavus-torabi-cardiacs-knifeworld-interview
looking forward to new Bob Drake too
― ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link
The most encouraging update on Tim and LSD yet! :)
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 10 May 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link
Born out of Eden has been in heavy rotation over here - "A Dream About a Dream" is such a great epic, under 6 minutes that is
― frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link
yeah that was the standout track for me too!
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Friday, 27 May 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link
I think I mentioned Big Evil, a Canadian instrumental band upthread a year or two ago. They have an album coming shortly!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=navOi2Wzg18
― everything, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
https://www.mixcloud.com/interestingalternative/
dunno if this is the right thread for this, but the Interesting Alternative Show with Kavus Torabi, Steve Davis, and sometimes Ben Jacobs (aka Max Tundra) is always a great listen, can't listen to it without a big list of artists to check out. track selection is all over the map (as you might expect) but I guarantee you'll hear something you like in there.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:48 (seven years ago) link
^^^yes this is a great heads-up, they have a formidable collective taste
I came here however to post this
https://thedisplayteam.bandcamp.com/track/epitaph
...surely one of the greatest cardiacs/heavy prog mashup efforts in the history of man
― imago, Monday, 4 July 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link
late '70s scottish prog band chou pahrot. how did i not hear about these folks until now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzOYv8udVrk
― the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Friday, 8 July 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link
this is sweet, loads of opposition for yer rock
― imago, Friday, 8 July 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link
doesn't have the cardiacsy melodic gamechangers but it gets the 'spirited henry cow fans' thing down to a tee
― imago, Friday, 8 July 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
― imago
speaking of "spirited henry cow fans", have you heard radar favourites? mid '70s band with the underrated g.f. fitzgerald and charles hayward.
― the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Saturday, 9 July 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
not yet! charles hayward always worth hearing in any guise tho
― imago, Saturday, 9 July 2016 08:09 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trj2ZLebWnM
Cloud Becomes Your Hand. Saw them acknowledge on their Facebook page that being played after Cardiacs on BBC radio was 'appropriate'. This doesn't quite have it but I still really like it.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Thursday, 14 July 2016 09:40 (seven years ago) link
Maybe it's just the video, but In a weird way it puts me in mind of this track from Super Best Friends Club, which was a trail from their new record that hasn't arrived yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBJCcw3YlIc
― MaresNest, Thursday, 14 July 2016 10:14 (seven years ago) link
otm with the visual poetry! I'm sure some of the band members are even interchangeable. It's a good song too. Will look out for the album.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Thursday, 14 July 2016 11:54 (seven years ago) link
For some reason the video is truncated, omitting a lovely sung section and coda, it's on Spotify though.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 14 July 2016 12:07 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I was pretty stunned by Chou Pahrot on one of the Glasgow threads.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 11 August 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=771mc4eFiaQ
aaaaaahhhhhhh
i might give them their own thread tbh, this is too much
― imago, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link
Every time I see this thread I imagine it's all about Liturgy, who are supposed to be black metal but still sound more like the Cardiacs than anyone else I can think of, but ctrl-f = no Liturgy, so here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN4BncLvXic
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
haha I LOVE The Ark Work but would never ever have thought to put it here!
That track is awesome but Follow II is some properly gamechanging shit. Have you heard his album of weird trap-electro from this year (under the pen-name Kel Valhaal?)
Anyway, new NSRO album in like 3 days. WE'RE ALL EXCITED RIGHT
― imago, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
NSRO lovely as ever.
I don't understand the comparison between Liturgy and Cardiacs if I'm honest. Sigh are the metal band that get compared to Cardiacs the most and I never really understood that either - because they have lots of keyboards?
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link
ugh fucking Sigh, really?
― imago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
Why does Liturgy sound like Cardiacs? Dunno, just does, something about the rhythms and the way he sings, thinking about Big Ship era, but (obs) much more reduced to its component parts. Will check out the new LP, cheers!
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, not that I have any hard evidence at hand but really. I think I remember the comparison coming up in reviews of the only album of theirs I sort of like (Imaginary Sonicscape).
And fair enough Camaraderie, I just don't hear it myself.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
I guess the listenable stuff on Imaginary Sonicscape sounds a bit like Mr Bungle if you simplified it 8x, and Mike Patton loves Cardiacs, so
― imago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link
ha, I was totally expecting not to get the comparison, as the Liturgy I have heard has been thumbs-down from me -- but I can kind of see what you're saying, as Cardiacs are very fond of brassy fanfare-esque melodies (or fake brass anyway, which I'm also guessing is what Liturgy are using here). Beyond that, not so much.
What makes Cardiacs to me are a) Tim Smith's sense of harmony, and b) their lyrics. You could take away all the drums and backing vocals and mallets and horns, and just have a piano or guitar, and Tim Smith singing, and it wouldn't sound like anyone else but Cardiacs.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
yep
but that doesn't mean that they don't fill the audio space with glorious, glorious noise :)
stripped-down cardiacs is sea nymphs anyway, which takes us full-circle to the NEW SEA NYMPHS. and the NEW NSRO. oh god
― imago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
https://7shades.bandcamp.com/album/bursting
Overtly stated Cardiacs adoration from these. They're following this release up with a fundraising remix album for Tim, featuring David Minnick.
― tangenttangent, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link
This is great fun! :D Very overt worship, but that's no bad thing. They seem to add their own spin to it.
Spratleys Japs have COME TO LIFE and are doing a gig in Brighton in November, btw :)
― imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link
(although 'their own spin' contains something of the aggressive-wacky male progmetal stench that cardiacs themselves completely avoid at all times - we'll ignore this for now as they have decent tunes)
― imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:51 (seven years ago) link
Anyway, true excellence is required for any Cardiacsy graduate to get their own thread...like this: North Sea Radio Orchestra - NSRO - chamber kraut folk - see also Shrubbies
― imago, Friday, 9 September 2016 11:57 (seven years ago) link
fyi on the last Steve Davis/Kavus Torabi show, they played one of the new Sea Nymphs songs. It was good. Don't have the link, but it's on mixcloud.
― Dominique, Friday, 9 September 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
Heard it now. It's amazing
― imago, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link
So I saw on Facebook that Tim travelled up to London to see the Dutch band De Staat playing recently so I checked them out and well, yeah...hello.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ttGgIQpAUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXEgY7Xieus
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link
much as I applaud the attempt to make a live-action Cyriak video, I'm not sold on the music, either as Cardiacsy or otherwise, but I won't close my mind to 'em just yet
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
actually wtf am I talking about, they're repulsively loathsome, they have the most hateful stage presence I've ever seen in a live video, let's pretend this bump didn't happen. and tim, whatever refloats yr boat man but if you can stomach this you can stomach finishing lsd :p
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
imma just stop posting on this thread that's named after me lol
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
we agree usually! aw man it is nothing personal
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
this thread is for stuff we both like though, you also have power of veto ;)
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
You go in hard LJ, have a care :)
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link
sea nymphs will wash away all this discord next week anyway
― imago, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, which reminds me, I must puchase
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
Joanna Wang has a new song and I think a new album on November 11 (or it might be an EP, I'm not sure):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew99FiYS9Q0
― MarkoP, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link
It's very, very exciting :D
She's only gone and gotten more Cardiacsy
― imago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link
Of course she also released an EP earlier in the year that was very pop:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v8GAfhUoME
So you can never quite tell what she's gonna do next.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I wasn't sold on that last EP - file under 'odd experiment' - but the new song is amazing
― imago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link
I get the impression she has to put out things like that EP occasionally to keep Sony happy so they'll let her keep doing her own stuff.
― Pheeel, Saturday, 29 October 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link
I find it absolutely incredible that she's still on Sony, and able to release such music under their banner
― imago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 11:14 (seven years ago) link
It's a full Cardiacsy rock-opera! Not sure it's quite better than the amazing Bob Music, but wow, what a joyride :)
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 12:04 (seven years ago) link
hah, it just popped up in my RYM feed, deal me in
― frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
That is because I added it to RYM lol
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 13:50 (seven years ago) link
my man
― frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link
just got your friend request...browsing the 5 stars and seeing so many records that I've only heard you talk about :)
― frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link
I've definitely tried to listen to your five-starred records before. A lot of the YMO-affiliated ones are quite hard to find, but I'll definitely give it another go. My list definitely skews British. Hope you can forgive my 0.5-star album :p
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link
Anyway, some highlights are emerging from this - aside from Isn't It Exciting, we have The Rightful Heir and When I Dream In Technicolor. And probably some others - it's hard to wrap my head around it all so far!
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link
Liar and the chicken calls are legit hilarious too
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
Sound of Silver 0.5 wow! What did that record ever do to you???
― frogbs, Friday, 11 November 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
It's a bit of an ILX in-joke tbh
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link
I never worked out that frogbs=JAMOOL ffs
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 11 November 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link
The Art Of Bullying probably has the album's best Cardiacs impression (ending in its best Queen impression, lol)
― imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
In fact,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQl3TZUmzYM
I've made her her own thread now too
― imago, Friday, 25 November 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link
https://zofff.bandcamp.com/album/zofff-1
Zofff - longform psychedelic jam not really in the spirit of Cardiacs, but many familiar faces here including Jo Spratley and Bic Hayes.
― dance band (tangenttangent), Sunday, 22 January 2017 13:54 (seven years ago) link
Popped up as a BandCamp advertorial today but their content is often kinda interesting, to me it's strongly reminiscent of Monsoon Bassoon or Thingy/Heavy Veg.
https://palmnewyork.bandcamp.com/album/shadow-expert
― MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
*caveat* this track at least
― MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
oh I like this! good find :)
― imago, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link
it fits nicely with my 2017 year of discovering cheer-accident vibe
― imago, Monday, 14 August 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
how has early oingo boingo not been mentioned in this thread? can't think of anything more "cardiacsy"
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link
Idk, they had zero impact in the UK at the time though.
― MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
Scouring their first record on Youtube right now and it sounds like herky jerky new wave, Devo/XTC/Split Enz or Bill Nelson's Red Noise.
― MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GrBkJIuKSkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp6NmzOcWjw
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
there are superficial similarities, especially in instrumentation and tempo, but tim smith's composition is way more mindboggling than this, the key is so fluid, and that's a large part of what i understand by 'cardiacsy'
― imago, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
this isn't bad though! btw neil cicierega is a good example of someone who's equally influenced by oingo boingo and cardiacs :)
― imago, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link
That Palm EP's very good. Definite shades of 90s Rob Crow bands with some of Battles' 1st album in there too.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
Derial:
Ultros, if you *are* working your way through all the Japan shows? I take my hat off to you sir!
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link
oh yeah glad to hear that palm ep getting some ilx love, they've been getting some well-deserved buzz lately.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Thursday, 17 August 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link
This isn't pop but I'm figuring something this good will find some love here. Polish jazz/punk group Kurws:
All That Is Solid Melts Into Air
― Doran, Monday, 9 October 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link
nice! shades of Deep Turtle, except maybe a bit less pop
― imago, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 07:45 (six years ago) link
Like this thanks! Makes me think a little of NoMeansNo or Laddio Bolocko.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 09:54 (six years ago) link
Digging around and found this really cool old track by a Japanese band called the Moonriders, little echoes of Devo, Cardiacs, XTC the usual, not to mention Japan's P Model.
Frogbs do you know these guys?
Had to upload it meself , no trace of it online.
https://soundcloud.com/nowherians/moonriders
― MaresNest, Saturday, 28 October 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
that was fun
― ultros ultros-ghali, Saturday, 28 October 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
no trace of it? these guys are apparently super-well-known in japan. track title translates as "alphaville". here's the band doing it live in 2011.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRClisLIp_Q
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 October 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
yes! I know the Moonriders. That's Keiichi Suzuki's band, I'm sure you've heard of him (he does the music for Earthbound). pretty cool stuff, kind of Zolo mixed with cabaret mixed with New Wave.
fun fact, Andy Partridge has a spoken word cameo on one of their albums (a reunion album called Christ, Who's Gonna Die First?). always wondered how the hell that happened.
their albums are a bit hit and miss for me, but they do have one I really love, called Worst of the Moonriders. it's a live one where they go through the stranger parts of their catalogue and radically rearrange some of their most well-known tunes. good stuff.
― frogbs, Sunday, 29 October 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link
I recognise the name Kaiichi Suzuki from Satellite Serenade (famously remixed by The Orb). The original is a lovely ambient fourth-worldy prog enka ballad with that magic steel guitar part. Nothing to do with this thread but it's ace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XIuogHN46U
― Noel Emits, Sunday, 29 October 2017 08:24 (six years ago) link
Depression songs [Started by Week of Wonders (Ross) in October 2017, last updated forty-six minutes ago by JoeStork] 8 new answersUnknown, vaguely Cardiacsy prog-pop that only MaresNest and I actually like [Started by that clitties version of "mr. que" (acoleuthic) in December 2009, last updated fifty-seven minutes ago by Noel Emits] 5 new answers
http://clipart-library.com/images/riLnAXK4T.png
― imago, Sunday, 29 October 2017 09:23 (six years ago) link
https://knifeworld.bandcamp.com/album/buried-alone-tales-of-crushing-defeat
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 October 2017 11:57 (six years ago) link
XXXXXP - Yeah I read up about them a bit and it's a shame but a lot of the stuff on Youtube doesn't grab me, but I wanted that studio version of Alphaville, which I couldn't find anywhere.
― MaresNest, Monday, 30 October 2017 11:19 (six years ago) link
This track off the new Thumpermonkey EP is an absolute delight IMO:
https://thumpermonkey.bandcamp.com/track/woadscrivened
― imago, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
Zag & The Coloured Beads have their music up on Bandcamp for those seeking some Organ Magazine endorsed, Cardiacs affiliated, late eighties malarkey.
https://zagandthecolouredbeads.bandcamp.com/releases
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
Oh awesome! I've seen them put on a great show! :)
Heeeeere's something from this year, am currently ascertaining how good it is https://stephenevens.bandcamp.com/album/bonjour-poulet
― imago, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link
It's better than Stephen Evens, but the Crayola Lectern album can also be filed under 'Cardiacs fan makes decent fan art'. There's a lovely instrumental in the middle and the closing track + outro are super
― imago, Monday, 4 June 2018 07:17 (five years ago) link
I've been banging on about this elsewhere but this is both the most Cardiacsy and best thing I've heard all year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdT1CxS7DEE
― imago, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link
lmao @ the airhorny bits, I guess I hear the connection
feels really Bungleish to me
― frogbs, Monday, 4 June 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
last night we went to a gig that was pure Cardiacsy - aside from Tim's royal presence, we had The Display Team doing their thing (with a great new song), Major Parkinson laying claim to Scandinavia's Cardiacsy crown (and its prog crown full stop tbh) with a dynamic and intense presentation....and then, sandwiched in between, was STERBUS.
https://sterbus.bandcamp.com/album/real-estate-fake-inverno
now, the actual live show was a bit patchy owing to the band not really having the full hang of it - but the songs were there, and this new album, being listened to subsequently, is proving so. that goddamn opening track!
update: that goddamn second track! give this a listen everyone
also Sterbus is a very nice chap, we spoke to him at the end and he was extremely lovely. tbf most people in this scene are but he exuded a sort of wide-eyed innocence and enthusiasm that instantly endears a person. remember, this was a guy who was at first just a Cardiacs fan forum poster. now here he is all growed up
― imago, Saturday, 29 September 2018 07:31 (five years ago) link
I've listened the new Sterbus a couple of times so far and it is terrific. Some lovely tunes and lots of invention.
― the sun-dried raisins of muesli (Noel Emits), Saturday, 29 September 2018 08:54 (five years ago) link
Just listened to Baseball by Major Parkinson, fucking wow. Sterbus also sounding good so far!
― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 29 September 2018 10:48 (five years ago) link
Yeah I hadn't actually discussed them here yet, which was an oversight - I posted that very track to the prog 3.0 thread instead bit this is more their spiritual home I think. The entire Blackbox album is superb, especially the two long tracks, and worth a listen or ten.
― imago, Saturday, 29 September 2018 11:06 (five years ago) link
Their earlier stuff has some great moments too but the last album is really the one where it all comes together
― imago, Saturday, 29 September 2018 11:07 (five years ago) link
Them being Major Parkinson, even, and Baseball being one of the best prog tracks of the decade (if you don't mind that it sounds a bit like, to borrow my own phraseology, Cardiacs and Sleepytime Gorilla Museum fighting to see who can mangle Muse's Knights Of Cydonia the most)
― imago, Saturday, 29 September 2018 11:09 (five years ago) link
Sterbus album is marvellous, as we slide into Autumn this is the kind of stuff I like to hear, along with things like the new Regal Worm and Kitten Pyramid.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 29 September 2018 11:12 (five years ago) link
we are being spoilt!
https://armyofmoths.bandcamp.com/album/sorry-to-disturb-you
(AOM guested on the Sterbus album and have followed them out of the album traps by barely over a week!)
― imago, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 05:31 (five years ago) link
bob drake has a new one !!!
https://bobdrake.bandcamp.com/album/lisola-dei-lupi
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Sunday, October 7, 2018 4:06 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― imago, Sunday, 7 October 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link
And now the big one has landed: the new Thumpermonkey! It's not out yet but I got a copy at the album launch last night, and it's brilliant, of course. Some of the best prog of recent years. The title-track is like a doomed-up Gabriel-era Genesis, except even better than that sounds
― imago, Friday, 12 October 2018 13:33 (five years ago) link
Still waiting for the new Bob Drake album to arrive, but Uz Jsme Doma's new one is really great.
― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Monday, 22 October 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link
New Cyriak video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP-A1s4ikBo
ALSO
you've all heard the Thumpermonkey album by now, but did you ALSO know that there's going to be a Lost Crowns album??
https://www.facebook.com/lostcrowns/
They started this Facebook page today, and things are apparently clanking into gear. Based on seeing them at the 2017 convention...well, it's going to be good
― imago, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link
I'm really looking forward to hearing what Richard is doing now. Shame SiB have kinda lost momentum.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 00:30 (five years ago) link
tbh this might be, and i don't say this lightly, just as good if not better than SiB
― imago, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 06:32 (five years ago) link
https://www.loudersound.com/amp/news/lost-crowns-sign-to-bad-elephant-for-debut-album
More details here. This is probably the most I've ever been hyped for an album, or something
― imago, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
okay there's another knifeworld, i thought it was a member of the 2-man heavy psych band from the mid-00s in mpls and was quite confused
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link
I'll happily listen to the US one!
― imago, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link
they are excellent
the record is great the center label on the vinyl has two eyeholes with red/blue plastic so you can use the record as a pair of 3D glasses to look at the cover
http://roaratorio.com/uncategorized/knife-world/
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
Permission to get excited, sir?
Permission granted!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip75JbrJVzE
― imago, Monday, 26 November 2018 10:23 (five years ago) link
Sounds prertty much like a more fleshed-out SiB. Which is good!
― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
Looking back, 2018 was a pretty good year for this sort of thing (and I mean that broadly) between Sterbus, Army Of Moths, Major Parkinson, Slunq, Crayola Lectern, 7Shades, Thumpermonkey and probably a bunch more.
Also nice to see Tim's legacy (outside of the bands he influenced) gaining a little traction, did you see that clip of the music students performing one of his early written (but not recorded) compositions? Pretty great!
― MaresNest, Monday, 7 January 2019 11:15 (five years ago) link
If you vote in the EOYs you'll be able to express your enthusiasm even more!
I'd love to see that video BTW - please link!
Incidentally, parallel to this thread's more retrospective gaze I have started, as a replacement for my time-travel concern, the following: Rolling herky-jerky 2019 - for not exclusively Cardiacsy 2019 content - the new NSRO rarities compilation might go there, for instance...but then so might a particularly baroque American indie-rock single
― imago, Monday, 7 January 2019 11:38 (five years ago) link
Good to know, ta!
Here is that thing, Piffol 100 Times...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M54CuOd0yU4
― MaresNest, Monday, 7 January 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link
https://michaelcouch.bandcamp.com/releases
― MaresNest, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link
That was pretty good!
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I thought so too, shared out by Sterbus on FB today.
― MaresNest, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link
Aight hive mind, I need a hand, where to start with Joanna Wang?
― MaresNest, Friday, 29 March 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link
you can't go wrong with either Bob Music or House Of Bullies!
― PPL+AI=NS (imago), Friday, 29 March 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link
ty LJ!
― MaresNest, Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link
Let us know how you get on with her!
― PPL+AI=NS (imago), Saturday, 30 March 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link
Wildo!
― MaresNest, Saturday, 30 March 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VN8fkUzGUM
if you speed the new Futureheads single up to 1.25x it sounds pretty Cardiacsy
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link
is this the thread where I post that I'm going to see Steve Davis's prog band with one of Monsoon Bassoon tonight? after they play live there's DJ sets from Stevie D and Graham Massey from 808 State.
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 24 August 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
It certainly is! Let us know what you thought...
― imago, Saturday, 24 August 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link
I was into it tbh. Drony analogue synth stuff with occasional bagpipes. Maybe a bit like Tangerine Dream or Cluster?
David Tibet was there, I guess he knows one of them. Graham Massey is DJing next then Steve Davis but I dunno if I'll hang around that long
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 24 August 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
Richard Larcombe's Lost Crowns are album of the day on 6Music, Stuart Maconie's choice for album of the year(so I guess he is useful for something after all).
― Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
that Utopia Strong album is really sweet, just wish it was longer
― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
Not sure if this is the best thread for this but Hlhippie bobbins time travel reminded me about these guys. Where are we at with Henge.
https://youtu.be/fy6lskwJGc4
― to go hoff and things (Noel Emits), Saturday, 15 August 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
New AOM is another enjoyable ride! Nothing really new or anything but they put all of themselves into it
https://armyofmoths.bandcamp.com/album/by-word-of-moth
New Arch Garrison looms, but I've dealt with that elsewhere...
― imago, Saturday, 5 September 2020 08:34 (three years ago) link
Ad Nauseum live footage! Bob looking positively Jesus-like behind his kit, Jon looking about 12 years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBfGue8XbTQ
Craig Fortnam's solo album is out soonish and all.
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Thursday, 20 May 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
Heard the first couple of tracks from a new Danny Elfman solo record and it sounds like some Cardicas/Pond adjacent metal band like Major Parkinson, Mr Bungle or Slunq
― Maresn3st, Monday, 14 June 2021 11:52 (two years ago) link
Interesting...
― imago, Monday, 14 June 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link
Kinda don't think there would have been a Mr. Bungle without the pre-existence of Danny Elfman so ... makes sense
― sarahell, Monday, 14 June 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
It's even called BIG MESS
― Maresn3st, Monday, 14 June 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link
I can hear Major Parkinson kinda, not Cardiacs but
― imago, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 10:25 (two years ago) link
Listened to the new Craig Fortnum this evening, it's lovely.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link
Unknown, vaguely Cardiacsy prog-pop that only MaresNest and I actually like [Started by that clitties version of "mr. que" (acoleuthic) in December 2009, last updated 0 seconds ago by Maresn3st on I Love Music] 1 new answerNorth Sea Radio Orchestra - NSRO - chamber kraut folk - see also Shrubbies [Started by imago in September 2016, last updated five seconds ago by imago on I Love Music] 1 new answer
lol
― imago, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
Ah, apologies LJ, I must have forgotten that there is a CF thread on here :)
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link
lol no need to apologise, I was tickled that we both bumped threads at exactly the same time!
on this thread I can add that the new Army Of Moths EP is great fun too - https://armyofmoths.bandcamp.com/album/the-canine-trilogy
― imago, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link
Featuring the most beautiful instrumental about Suffolk-based longshore drift you're likely to hear this year, kids.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link
A Speck I Am is quite something, isn't it
― imago, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link
Yes! And the closest thing I've heard him do, tonally, to the Shrubbies record.
I love that rather wobbly Philacorda dotted throughout the record, puts me in mind of Terry Riley.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:38 (two years ago) link
of course! Arch Garrison has plenty more, naturally
think Ravensodd is my toppermost pick!
― imago, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:40 (two years ago) link
mark of the man that that's probably my...seventh? eighth? favourite album of his, and it's still really lovely
― imago, Thursday, 15 July 2021 22:46 (two years ago) link
New instrumental record coming from Craig F
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-24LR-_Zfc
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 31 March 2022 09:37 (two years ago) link
NSRO......but there's (pointedly) something missing :(
― imago, Thursday, 31 March 2022 09:41 (two years ago) link
this is amazing but also I respect that nobody else on here could possibly like it. prove me wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK_mMghmDJ8
― imago, Monday, 10 October 2022 10:28 (one year ago) link
Yesss
https://ring.bandcamp.com/album/nervous-recreation
Been waiting for this remaster for so long (although technically it's just a "master" as the original tape version never had one), such a trip to finally hear this album in high definition.
Just need to update this old fan vid now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57AhyLSWs10
― "Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Friday, 3 February 2023 08:50 (one year ago) link
1972, and a well-known act, so probably doesn't belong on this thread, except it completely does.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzByBZs4c0A
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 15 June 2023 19:46 (ten months ago) link
dear old Viv invented Cardiacs too eh
― imago, Thursday, 15 June 2023 20:56 (ten months ago) link
Well! He's certainly at least invented William D Drake
― imago, Thursday, 15 June 2023 21:00 (ten months ago) link
Well it's an Innes track and Viv probably wasn't involved
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 15 June 2023 21:11 (ten months ago) link
Oh! Right. I don't know my Bonzos lore do I
― imago, Friday, 16 June 2023 07:19 (ten months ago) link
Amazing, could absolutely be a Sea Nymphs tune!
― MaresNest, Friday, 16 June 2023 10:58 (ten months ago) link