John Petrucci brings you...ROCK DISCIPLINE (a picture thread if the pictures can fit)

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Dear Christ on a bike. AaronHz posted these pictures over here and I can cannot suffer alone (or near alone):

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006L57W.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007CWIA.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Please share more images like this. You know you want to.

(Is there a hip-hop equivalent to this kind of shit? Can we make sure it never happens?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

This is Michael Angelo Batio, he of the "Speed Kills" Metal Method DVD:
http://www.metalmethod.com/graphics/m_angleo.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.secret-sauce.net/images/2003Images/2003Images/VernonReidMagCover.jpg

andy, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007CWI6.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Doug Marks, purveyor of the Metal Method "Complete Basic Course"
http://www.metalmethod.com/graphics/doug_marks.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/94/941483.jpg

Dude, Wolf Marshall blows Doug Marks out of the water... he's got PERFECT PITCH!

andy, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I think this thread needs more Frank Gambale:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007CWIB.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

ahem:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007CWI9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

btw, people may not realize that these DVDs average at around $50 a pop.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Gambale's latest DVD opus:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008L3W8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0825628733.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

SLAPPIN N' POPPIN' WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE BANDS FROM 1988.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

No graphic designers were harmed in the production of this DVD

ihttp://g.sheetmusicplus.com/Look-Inside/covers/WB-VH006.jpg

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Elvis, I think that picture is supposed to be in this thread: Defend the Indefensible - Southwestern Color Schemes

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

(Is there a hip-hop equivalent to this kind of shit? Can we make sure it never happens?)
too late Ned, MUCH too late. I'll find you some more...
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000096JHI.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009YP7S.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

is that dizzee rascal?

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Now that's child exploitation right there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

dude PP wins, but let's keep going:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006L57N.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck it's justin and brittany! what a crock of shit. and why's that one kids arm coming from a huge rip in his shirt?

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i bought the wife this dvd

http://www.dance-grooves-video.com/images/video_front.jpg

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Ladies rub on yr titties if you like hip-hop

Jimmy Mod, Man About Towne (ModJ), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000089723.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(xp to darrin and his dance grooves) Is he teaching them how to simultaneously rub your stomach and pat your head?

dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

man, the pics really speak for themselves on this thread.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude but I am totally getting those first two that I posted on the Dream Theater thread, Speed Kills too. The Petrucci one has a blooper reel where he fucks up his prog-weeny guitar demonstrations!

once in a while they rope a respentable musician into doing these things (I'm getting this too):
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000062VXE.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

oops respectable

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.banjostore.com/images/dvd-wooten.jpg

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

see I would consider getting a Wooten DVD, Adrian Belew looks interesting too, though I'd rather get a Robert Fripp one if he ever does it.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i think these are kind of cool.

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

do you hate LEARNING?

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

do you hate PINK DRAWSTRING PANTS?

g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Well Ned hates learning obv.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.midi-classics.com/i/p2268.gif

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet he plays with a pick.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

That title has one 'B' too many. (xp)

dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Because, as Joe Jackson noted, it's different for girls:

http://www.rockhousemethod.com/images/prod_girls.gif

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I was about to point out as well that with the graphic design on most of these, take away the guitars, the dude's shirts, alter the title slightly, voila: gay porn box art.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Guitar playing IS different for girls: for one, you do not pretend to wank the guitar neck

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

dude that guitar for girls thing is trippy.

TELL ME HOW CAN I PLAY GUITAR LIKE A GIRL AND NOT BE OBJECTIFIED AS IF I WAS A GIRL etc etc

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fucking Fury! You have unleashed it!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001XALV4.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.detroitsrvfanclub.com/Images/srv%20Video%20guitar%20More%20Style%20of%20SRV.jpg

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post
PLEASE YNGWIE DON'T HURT 'EM

(how much more would he rule if his next CD was actually called that, I ask you!)

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I have that Steve Smith dvd.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my friends downloaded some Paul Gilbert videos, they're AWESOME. The background behind him keeps changing from the beach, to chicks cheering him on, etc. He spends 10 minutes on a lick that "isn't exactly in a time signature, but it's great if you want some really fast picking to show off."

I used to buy cheap drum vids from the sale bin at this one music store in high school, like Bobby Rock and Nick McBrain (which is intentionally HILARIOUS, I highly recommend it).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I've watched it too, Jordan.

Now everytime at practice, I gently remind my drummer to balance the tip of his drumstick to the middle of the snare. Let it drop and bounce, drop and bounce.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

And how many times has your gentle reminder gotten you a drumstick shoved up your ass?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

yknow, my music teacher once told me i played guitar like a girl.
so, maybe it is different. but he was kinda um, well.. mad.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.kaneroberts.com/images/ok.jpg

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

http://store1.yimg.com/I/playmusic_1784_12573228

A Robert Fripp guitar instructional video would r0x0r. Mr Fripp would undoubtedly fix the viewer w/a steely, studious glare, and regale him/her about the history of EG records, mixed in with factual corrections of his critics for 2 1/2 hrs. perhaps he will show you how to play a bit of "21st Century Schizoid man", or, perhaps he will spit on your foot, who knows?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 19 August 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bertweedon.com/graphics/bertbook.jpg

robster (robster), Thursday, 19 August 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

ive been told i play guitar like a girl. like not developing a boston accent, though, i made a conscious decision to not play in a style that remotely resembles wanking or rock stars.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 19 August 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/lynskey/shipton.jpg

Gribowitz (Lynskey), Thursday, 19 August 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The video art is fun, but what's truly fun is INSIDE. On the tape.
Racer X's Bruce Bouillet's vid:
http://home.earthlink.net/~rogthefrog/images/bwahaha/bruce.jpg
Eric Johnson:
http://home.earthlink.net/~rogthefrog/images/bwahaha/eric.jpg
Scott Henderson:
http://home.earthlink.net/~rogthefrog/images/bwahaha/scott.jpg
Scott Henderson again:
http://home.earthlink.net/~rogthefrog/images/bwahaha/scott2.jpg
Tony MacAlpine:
http://home.earthlink.net/~rogthefrog/images/bwahaha/tony.jpg
Vinnie Moore:
http://home.earthlink.net/~rogthefrog/images/bwahaha/vinnie.jpg
And a live vid of Alcatrazz with Graham Bonnet in the silly suit:
http://home.earthlink.net/~rogthefrog/images/bwahaha/alcatrazz.jpg

rogthefrog, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

That Vic Wooten/Carter Beauford one is pretty cool actually. Carter Beauford should play music with so many other motherfuckers who aren't Adam Sandler I mean Dave Matthews.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"slap bass: the ungentle art"

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm ordering the Petrucci, Gambale (modes), and BB King DVDs tonight from Amazon, as these all come highly recommended in Guitar World's 75 essential guitar DVDs feature from back in January. I'll let you guys know the verdict: If I learned anything useful or just learned never to listen to Guitar World about anything ever again.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

"ungentle art"??

off to the bumsex thredd...

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Where is the master Arlen Roth?

Firehawk of Deth, Friday, 20 August 2004 06:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"slap bass: the ungentle art"

...it's actually one of the only instructional videos mentioned on the thread worth a bean. It's really cool.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It looks cool! Upright slap bass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric slap bass.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

that's true. also an upright bass w/ a pickup through a club PA can produce some terrifying dnb-like low end (cf. calexico live)

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
ahem:
Greetings from Amazon.com.

We thought you'd like to know that we shipped your items today, and that this completes your order.

The following items were included in this shipment:
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1 Fretboard Logic DVD $44.95 1 $44.95

1 B.B. King: Blues Master $39.95 1 $39.95

1 John Petrucci - Rock Disciplin $49.95 1 $49.95

1 Modes No More Mystery, Frank G $49.95 1 $49.95

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU SICK FUCK

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

THEY HAVE ARRIVED!!!
I'll write up reviews here if I ever stop laughing.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, encode that shit & put it in slsk..

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I would but I'm on dialup and not on slsk that often.
I'm writing a full play-by-play of Rock Discipline right now as I watch it.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

take screencaps

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

heh I'll try later if I get around to it. I'm only 15 min in. He's still doing boring warm up shit. THIS SUCKER IS TWO HOURS!

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck, i wish you had one of those Michael Angelo ones. he's such a nice guy, too. completely Nigel Tufnel by now.

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't worry, I'll be sending off for "Speed Kills" soon enough.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm writing a full play-by-play of Rock Discipline right now as I watch it.

Oh, you better post that shit.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

OK here you go. I didn't even really bother proofreading this, so bear with me:


JOHN PETRUCCI: ROCK DISCIPLINE
DVD begins with opening credits sequence of footage of Petrucci onstage playing hilarious cheese rock power ballad solo on an Ibanez asshat multicolored dork guitar of some sort.

"Hi, I'm John Petrucci. Welcome to my video."

He kind of talks like he's chewing his face. He also has the basic doofus disposition of most guitar teachers I've met. The first thing he wants you to do is tune to his open A string. It's weird because he goes "Here's my open A." and then there's like 15 more seconds of his onstage footage followed by an extremely goofy close up of him playing an open A in the studio.

Warm up Exercises: Stretches and Massages

"Ooh! My arm just cracked, and yours might also!"
Now he's showing me his little stretch routine, some junior high P.E. type shit followed by the carpal tunnel wrist stretch shit that everybody knows. Then he streches his thumbs by pulling them back towards his wrist. This is some exciting shit right here.

"Now let's move on to massages" - he pauses for a few seconds like he thought there was gonna be a fade-out, then he suddenly starts talking again. I can't wait to see the blooper reel.
Now he's rubbing himself in various places.......
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..........okay, he's done!


Warm up exercises: Left Hand

You know who he's really starting to look like to me? Paul Reubens in his adult theater arrest mugshot, maybe crossed with a little Dave Grohl. Right now he's playing some boring arpeggios that he apparently uses to warm up. I just noticed his wedding ring - some poor woman is actually MARRIED to this guy?

BOOOOOORING! COME ON PETRUCCI, MAKE ME A PROG MONSTER!!!
This section seems excruciatingly long, but I'm sure it's only been like 5 minutes.

Warm up Exercises: Right Hand

"As you just heard, that exercise involved notes that were being arpeggiated intervalically." OH FFS, JUST GET ON WITH IT YOU TWAT!
Picking exercises using barre chords.....blah.
"Remember to pick down up down up down up down up"
Oh thank you, I've never even thought of doing it that way before! Grrrrrrrr......
Now we're practicing up down up down! Yaaaaaay!
double..........triple.......yawn.
Oh, he does it super fast with his FX on at the end, that was kinda cool.

On practicing....

I didn't anticipate this. Apparently there are mock interview lecture segments featuring Petrucci sitting at a mixing board trying to look professional. Here he just talks about having a huge file cabinet full of guitar exercises from magazines, books, videos and such split into four categories:
1. Scalar and linear examples
2. Arpeggiated examples
3. Left-hand or legato playing
4. Sweep picking
He practices files from each section every day in equal proportion.
Whatever........Oh, good he has his guitar again...

Exercises: Left and right hand
The one he's doing now sounds like something out of "Bitches Brew".
Just more warm up shit.
"Now, you should also practice the same exact exercise starting on an upstroke as well, to make sure that you're...ambipickstrous"
That was one of his JOKES, people. He RAISED HIS EYEBROWS and everything!
He does some more variations on this exercise.....

"And that will wrap up our warm up exercises."
Thank the lord.

Technique: Speed and Accuracy
"blah blah metronome blah blah blah down up down up down up blah blah blah"
He's playing a major scale very slowly to a click.
He increases his speed until he's shredding. ho-hum.
Now he's doing chromatic shit.
Faster and faster. He's really quite skilled, I suppose. The one at 208bpm was pretty awesome sounding. Reminds me of the Bill and Ted soundtrack or something.
He does all this again with another scale.

First band...
Another mock-interview segment. He talks about playing the "Hey Hey My My" riff with a bunch of kids when he was 12. Who cares...

Scale Fragments and sequences
more speed building exercises played very slowly.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......................
He shreds a little again after that and then shows how to develop these exercises into a sequence.
This DVD has a lot of this:
bum.....................bum..............................bum..........................bum....................bum
"And here's how I play it!"
bumbumbumbumbubmbumbubmbubmubmbmbumubmbubmubmubmumbbubmbubmbubmbubmbbububmbuubmbububmbbubbmbbubmbbubmbbubbmbm
This goes on and on until he does a solo demonstration to an electronic cheese ballad sequencer backing which is the most exciting part of the video so far!

About influences...
Another bullshit talking thing. At first he liked Black Sabbath, Zeppelin, The Who, Iron Maiden....Rush, Yes, Randy Rhodes AND THEN HE FINALLY DISCOVERED STEVE MORSE AND HIS LIFE CHANGED AND HE BOUGHT EVERY DREGS ALBUM and then Al Di Miola and Allan Holdsworth. Stevie Ray Vaughan blah blah etc.

Right Hand Technique: Picking Arpeggios
Talks about how difficult alternate picking quickly through arpeggios is for most guitarists, including him.
"Some guys have this taken care of, and uh...we'll have to shoot 'em all!"
Another JOKE. You can tell when he's trying to make a joke cuz he gets this rodenty little smirk on his face.
Oh great, he's come up with his own "etude" (FFS) to work out this problem. He demonstrates it. It's awful.
blah blah blah.....
OH NO ANOTHER "ETUDE" MAKE IT STOP!
He's the first rock guitarist I've ever seen pretentious enough to refer to an etude by its proper name. Like he's Segovia or some shit. Please.
Would it kill him to just say, "Here's a little thing I made up to help me practice this."?

Lessons & Berklee...
Talks about his nerdly Berklee education.

Left Hand Technique: Legato Playing
Exercising the left hand with hammerons and pulloffs. Some of it kinda sounds like "Eruption".
I forgot to mention that he is filmed with a purple lens filter for much of this. it really brings out his choadliness.
He wants us to massage ourselves again cuz now it's time to put it all together and shred!.
He makes like Steve Vai at the end of Crossroads for a few minutes, then plays some shit slow for a while, finally showing us again how fast A REAL ASSHOLE LIKE HIM can play it! Some VH tapping in there as well...

About the band...
Talks about his nerdly band Dream Theater. How much better they are now than when they started as teenagers etc.

Right Hand Technique: Sweep Picking
Yngwie time!
"It's sort of a weapon or tool to execute a fast flurry of notes!"
I have to admit that when he's doing this stuff it sounds fucking BADASS.
When he's demonstrating something sometimes he'll leave his mouth open and practically pant like a dog. He's a mouth breather, folks.
I gotta learn this sweeping stuff. The tournament guys are suckers for it. Teach me to sweep Mr. Miyagi!.....err, Petrucci.
ANOTHER "ETUDE", GAH!!!!!
...but this one actually sounds pretty cool with all the sweep picking.

Writing with the Band...
Talks about Dream Theater's writing process. I sure no one one ILX gives a flying fuck. He does mention liking Zappa's music, which is not a point against him in my book, but I know it is for some of us here.

Chordal Techniques: Building Chords
"By adding certain notes to these (power) chords we're gonna MUTATE them and we're gonna add some colors and drama to basic chord progressions"
Wheeee!
"Let's first make sure everyone knows what the power chord is."
FFS, I'm sure everyone who got past the Yngwie-style section of the DVD knows what a fucking power chord is, John.
This is all pretty basic Chord Theory.
He plays a godawful little progression he made up at the end of it. No wonder Dream Theater sucks so bad.
He says something about that progression not making much sense by itself. No shit. Then he does a song with his cheesy sequencer, complete with solo.
I sure hope we're almost done here...

John's Guitars and Live Stage Set Up
He shows off his wankeriffic gear setup. He's got one of those flashing rack FX units that looks like a spaceship control panel, of course.
He shreds a bit while demonstrating his FX.

"We've covered a lot of ground in this video and it's a lot of information to swallow!"
The credits have more onstage asshat footage. God damn this video is from 1995?

The blooper reel was no great shakes, it's mostly footage of him fucking up the introduction and saying his own name wrong. Not much in the way of guitar fuckups.

There's some more bonus features, but I have no intention of watching any of them any time soon:
Tuning Segment
Backstage With John
G3 Tour Footage
Interactive Tour of John's Guitar
Dream Theater discography
Additional Product Reviews

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

HAH! Thanks Aaron

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure that will stand for quite a while as my longest original post.
Notice how it took me 3 1/2 hours to watch this 2 hour video?
You'd have to be braindead to watch this whole thing in one sitting.
Or just really high.
Or really into Dream Theater.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

ROLL ME UNDER I'M NOT AFRAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

What of "Modes: No More Mystery"?

Jimmy Mod, Man About Towne (ModJ), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Eh, maybe I'll write that one tomorrow. I haven't watched it yet.
That DVD -thankfully- is only 65 minutes long.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

OH MAN I'M WATCHING IT NOW AND IT'S ALREADY WAY THE FUCK FUNNIER AND WEIRDER THAN THE PETRUCCI DVD!!!!!
.....I'll tell you why tomorrow.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh heh heh.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0757919162.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

man, i'm really looking forward to the "Interactive Tour of John's Guitar"

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I went ahead and wrote up the Modes thing tonight, as there was relatively little to say after the incredibly bizzare intro detailed below.


First a bio for people who don't know who Frank Gambale is (I didn't):
Frank Gambale is best-known for his fiery work with Chick Corea's Elektric Band. He was a student at the Guitar Institute of Technology while in his early twenties, wrote instructional books, and during 1983-1986, was on the school's faculty. He joined Corea in 1986, has also performed with Steve Smith's Vital Information, and has been a leader on his own rock-oriented dates for JVC. A collaboration with bassist Stu Hamm and drummer Steve Smith was another fruitful venture for Gambale, spawning several discs between the three that became increasingly ambitious as time went by.

OK, the thing about this DVD is that since it's basically an hour long lecture on one subject, it's not really conducive to a play by play the way the Petrucci one is.
Also, Gambale seems an affable, knowledgeable chap who doesn't really deserve or even inspire the kind of ridicule I gave to Petrucci. The post I made above really just applies to the intro, as the rest of it is heavy theory stuff that seems very well researched and thorough, and will actually take a few viewings for me to digest.
I will however, describe what led me to make that previous post:

The DVD opens with some incredibly cheap looking titles. I mean white on blue with no attempt at real graphic design whatsoever.
We then fade in to Frank Gambale playing a bright yellow Ibanez with many stickers on it (the same one shown on the DVD cover).
He is wearing a HOT PINK TWEETY BIRD T-SHIRT TUCKED INTO LEATHER PANTS WITH A BELT. Tweety is flying an airplane and wearing an aviator cap in the shirt picture. This is the kind of shirt that you would get your ass kicked for wearing to school in fourth grade.

It must be said that Gambale is one of the ugliest motherfuckers I have ever seen in my life. It's like Bea Arthur got gangbanged by Lou Reed, Hank Azaria, Johnny Cash and Richard Kline and their semen all magically mixed together and begat this hideous man. His hair is different from the DVD cover, looking rather like...well, Bea Arthur's in Golden Girls with a bad dye job.

So he's standing there playing along to a cheese ballad backing track (surprise!), and the lead lines he's playing wouldn't be out of place in some 80's TV drama theme song. That is to say until he begins shredding. When he does this it comes off so fluid and effortless that it makes Petrucci look like a total fucking pussy. Even more of one I mean. This is a jazz cat we're dealing with here - prog metal dinks can fuck right off.

He's there playing lead guitar to this track, shaking his fat middle-aged hips in this ridiculous getup, making little movements with his mouth that resemble a baby bird chirping for its food, singing along with his guitar line occasionally. THIS GOES ON FOR SIX AND A HALF MINUTES, and he still hasn't said a word. Fade out.

Fade in to Gambale playing a PINBALL MACHINE. He's got three of them lined up against the wall of the music room in what is apparently his house. He loses his ball, we are meant to assume, and then "notices" the camera. He's still wearing the pink Tweety shirt tucked into the leather pants...
"Hi, I'm Frank Gambale! Welcome to my new video!"
He speaks in a HIGH, LILTING AND SLIGHTLY EFFEMINATE AUSTRALIAN ACCENT! I almost lost my shit when he started talking.
"I'm not always working on the guitar or playing guitar, sometimes I'm playing pinball too! It's another one of my loves! Anyway I've just spent the last few months working on a subject for this video that we're gonna do that I think is a really important music subject that most guitar players aren't too clear on. The subject of modes. That's what we're gonna be dealing with right after I get done with this game. So let's get down to it!"
Then he goes back to playing pinball. Fade out.

Fade in to Gambale sitting in front of his recording gear with a HOT PINK Ibanez that does NOT match the hot pink of his tweety bird T-shirt, making the guitar look slightly orange by contrast. At this point the video goes into an intense modal theory lecture for nearly an hour that I'm sure will be of great use to me once I can get my head around it.

The video ends with a clip of him singing and playing one of his songs which sounds quite like Steely Dan. He even sings a bit like Donald Fagan. So, good on him. It's a lot better than Dream Theater.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

(the bonus features include incredible performances by Allan Holdsworth and Joe Pass for no apparent reason. I'm glad they're there, they pretty much double the value of this thing.)

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

One last thing from the Gambale DVD. There is another performance clip featuring Gambale's hotshit fusion trio in concert. This is a quite recent clip featuring an much older, fatter (but somehow much less uglier) Frank Gambale. He has a decent hairdo and some facial hair.
Anyways this clip is fuckin smokin', and Gambale can DEFINITELY play circles around Petrucci - it's even more evident here. The drummer and bassist were equally adept.
I might even have to get some of this dude's CDs now, fuck!

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Good write-up.

Jeez. I wonder if Chris DeGarmo ever put one of these out.

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I want David Fair to make one of these.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, yeah or Dot Wiggins.
Can you imagine what a Kurt Cobain one would have been like?
"Hi, I'm Kurt Cobain. Welcome to my video.
Let's first make sure everyone knows what the power chord is:
Root........and fifth. There.
Ok, you're all set! Thanks for buying my video!"
END

AaronHz (AaronHz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"Please note (no pun intended) that guitar solos must always follow the main vocal melody of the song note for note."

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"I hate myself."

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

they're easier to remember that way

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

This is one of the best things I've ever read here, thanx Aaron!

They shd perhaps do a noel gallagher one.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

post more!

Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The BB King and "Fretboard Logic" DVDs don't seem to have much in the way of comedic fodder. I haven't watched them all the way through yet, but...
I watched the first third of BB King (it's three seperate volumes on one DVD, the whole thing adds up to about 3 1/2 hours), and on the strength of the first volume I can say that this feels like the genuine best of the bunch - from the content to the production values.

BB King is such a gracious and modest person here it will just kill you. He is interviewed by a fawning fanboy Guitar World contributor throughout, and everytime fanboy says something about how great BB is, he just kind of puts his head down and blushes and says, "well...thank you".

The interview segments consist of BB and fanboy sitting down with their guitars, and BB will demonstrate licks and techniques to fanboy's accompaniment, explain where he got this and that idea from, etc. These segments are broken up by performance footage every 20 minutes or so, including a smokin' rendition of "Nobody Loves Me But My Mother".

The thing that really cracks me up about this DVD is that here we have BB King, a musician who is 1000 times more respected than a guy like who Petrucci who's devoted his life to learning every flash bastard technique under the sun could ever dream of being, and he's sitting here going "Well, I'm not actually very good with my fingers..." when attempting (and more or less failing) to demonstrate the old school country blues shuffle, and saying things like "Well, you should learn to play in every position.........of course I never did." This serves as a valuable lesson to anyone who may not know better: You don't have to know all that Berklee/GIT bullshit to be considered a good guitarist, just be yourself and be original and make the best of what you know how to do.
I recommend this DVD to anyone with even a passing interest in guitar.

There's not much to say about "Fretboard Logic" except that the producion values are rock bottom. It looks like something you'd see on Public Access or PBS in the middle of the night. It's basically just some totally nondescript guy running through fretboard memorization stuff like the CAGED sequence etc. and will be valuable to anyone who needs to learn this kind of thing.

If there's anything else of note once I've watched these in full, I'll report back.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

You must keep reviewing. We command it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh. Well, I may very well become addicted to these guitar DVDs. Whenever I get another one I'll post a write up here, how's that?

Maybe we can change the parenthetical bit in the thread title from (a picture thread if the pictures can fit) to (Guitar DVDs reviewed HERE) or something like that.
I'd encourage anyone else who collects these to post reviews here as well.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the hubert sumlin one with david johansen as howlin' wolf (for three songs) is really good.

dan (dan), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

DOES THAT REALLY EXIST? IT SOUNDS FUCKIN AWESOME!

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

THIS ONE? (VHS only, fuck)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000050FGN.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
We need more reports.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't bought any more yet, but somebody out there has gotta have some of these things. C'mon, don't be shy. Post a review!

AaronHz (AaronHz), Saturday, 9 October 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

HOLY SHIT GUYS!
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001WANWW.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I am SO totally buying this one, I didn't even know it existed!
Maybe I'll actually learn to play that Casio sitting in the corner gathering dust.
Fagen is a big time hero for me. Wow.

A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Gain rare insight into the musical thinking of one of the most influential popular songwriters and arrangers in America. Donald Fagen analyses three Steely Dan hits ("Chain Lightning," "Peg," "Josie") and two solo works from his Grammy-nominated album Kamakiriad ("On The Dunes," "Teahouse On The Tracks"). These songs use familiar blues and R&B structures, and Donald explains how, by altering the bass line and chordal qualities, he transformed them into sophisticated jazz-rock compositions. You'll trace the development of increasingly complex pieces as Donald and Warren Bernhardt reveal each tune's singular structure, harmonic and rhythmic characteristic, intro ideas and other devices.

Wow, oh wow.

A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't wait to go into band practice and turn all of our familiar blues and r&b structures into sophisticated jazz-rock! They'll thank me for it later.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

NO HATING ON THE DAN

A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I love how thrilled he looks to be there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Does he ever NOT look like that, though?

A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.billrotelladrumbeatings.com/accbound.jpg

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 21 October 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
Donald Fagen DVD ordered yesterday. I should be able to post a review by next week.

Every country has their stupid (AaronHz), Monday, 15 November 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

omg

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The secret theme of all these videos is, of course, Ageing in Los Angeles. Perhaps someone should make that video. Topics covered:

* How to turn hours of solitude in a Los Angeles bungalow into 'guitar practice', and thus build up a 'personal style' that makes you sound exactly like every other lonely Angeleno guitarist.
* How to turn outdated riffs, gimmicks and tricks into a 'timeless' system of 'correct playing'.
* How to overcome social isolation in your LA bungalow by arranging meetings with Warner Brothers executives to talk about issuing instructional videos that other lonely Angelinos will watch.
* Dress tips for retirement in Los Angeles.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 15 November 2004 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

These songs use familiar [negro] structures, and [a Jewish person] explains how, by altering the bass line and chordal qualities, he transformed them into sophisticated [Jewish] compositions. You'll trace the development of increasingly complex pieces as [two Jewish people] reveal each tune's singular structure, harmonic and rhythmic characteristic, intro ideas and other devices.

The essential fallacy of all these videos is the prog rock fallacy: that 'increasingly complex' is 'better'.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 15 November 2004 08:51 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all parrrttt
of my prog-rock fallacyyyyyyyy

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 15 November 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Then again, the iconography of the John Petrucci cover is not saying that 'more complex is better'. It's saying 'Obey, dork, I am your dark S&M master!'

Momus (Momus), Monday, 15 November 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i wonder how old that cover photo is. i'm thinking no earlier than 1993, and no later than 1997.

kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 15 November 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It's from 1995.

"It sets the metronome at 210 or else it gets the hose again."

Every country has their stupid (AaronHz), Monday, 15 November 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

These songs use familiar [negro] structures, and [a Jewish person] explains how

zzzzzzzzzz

roffle at aaron's post

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
breathe...

Jimmy Mod Knows You Eat Your Own Farts (ModJ), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

We never got our Fagen DVD review! Maybe when Aar0n gets back.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 24 April 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

It must be said that Gambale is one of the ugliest motherfuckers I have ever seen in my life. It's like Bea Arthur got gangbanged by Lou Reed, Hank Azaria, Johnny Cash and Richard Kline and their semen all magically mixed together and begat this hideous man. His hair is different from the DVD cover, looking rather like...well, Bea Arthur's in Golden Girls with a bad dye job.

This the very definition of "funny becuase its true."

Ash (ashbyman), Sunday, 24 April 2005 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...
A beautiful thread still.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 February 2006 06:04 (twenty years ago)

kinda bittersweet

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 5 February 2006 06:52 (twenty years ago)

These songs use familiar [negro] structures, and [a Jewish person] explains how

Aw come on, Jersey and Staten Island Eye-talians control like half the market on this

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 5 February 2006 06:58 (twenty years ago)

hahaha hurting is so otm

the petronas towers (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 5 February 2006 10:37 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
wow, i am in awe of this thread. is there a Brit equivalent of these DVD series? I want "Round the old Joanna with Damon Albarn" and "Nicking Slade riffe for the intermedidiate Scally with Noel Gallagher", STAT!

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 19 April 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

<i>Gain rare insight into the musical thinking of one of the most influential popular songwriters and arrangers in America. Donald Fagen analyses three Steely Dan hits ("Chain Lightning," "Peg," "Josie") and two solo works from his Grammy-nominated album Kamakiriad ("On The Dunes," "Teahouse On The Tracks"). These songs use familiar blues and R&B structures, and Donald explains how, <b>by altering the bass line</b> and chordal qualities, he transformed them into sophisticated jazz-rock compositions. You'll trace the development of increasingly complex pieces as Donald and Warren Bernhardt reveal each tune's singular structure, harmonic and rhythmic characteristic, intro ideas and other devices.

Wow, oh wow.


-- A Million Talking Hot Dogs (AaronHz), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 23:04 (2 years ago)<i>

I have learned a lot of Dan on guitar in the last year. An inordinate number of their songs (Josie, Pretzel Logic, Green Earrings) seem to be based on the following.

Take a chord progression

Substitute the Root for the Fourth in the bass.

Try it, take any song you normally play and play the fourth instead of the root as the bass note. Behold how "Dannish" it sounds.

Michael, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.musicroom.com/images/catalogue/productpage/GW944.jpg

Edward III, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.musicroom.com/images/catalogue/productpage/GW945.jpg

Edward III, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://g.sheetmusicplus.com/Look-Inside/covers/6715603.jpg

Edward III, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

must buy Fahey DVDs

marmotwolof, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.detroitsrvfanclub.com/Images/srv%20Video%20guitar%20More%20Style%20of%20SRV.jpg

this was like the second guitar instructional vid i bought.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 July 2007 04:48 (eighteen years ago)

i only bought 2.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 July 2007 04:48 (eighteen years ago)

I picked up Guitar Player while waiting for my wife in CVS yesterday. That magazine has not changed at all since I read it last, which must have been like 12 years ago. Anyways, they had an interview with some "edgy" guitar schmoe with long hair and My Chemical Romance-esque eye makeup, who was talking about his new instructional DVD, which he said is the first R-rated instructional DVD. He was talking about how it will teach you how to play all his awesome solos, but will then cut away to topless women and "David Lynch weirdness," because "who doesn't like boobs?" Fortunately I have blocked his name from my memory.

n/a, Friday, 13 July 2007 12:18 (eighteen years ago)

This month's cover story: John Petr(go on, guess!)

http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?sectioncode=17&storycode=18563

StanM, Friday, 13 July 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

rofl @ "P-Love"

latebloomer, Friday, 3 August 2007 03:48 (eighteen years ago)

tinkle tinkle wikka wikka

latebloomer, Friday, 3 August 2007 03:53 (eighteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=v58wbKskw2Y

latebloomer, Friday, 3 August 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

Petrucci presents "psycho" exercises:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs

latebloomer, Friday, 3 August 2007 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

DISCIPLINE

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:31 (seventeen years ago)

Petrucci most notably demonstrated his rock discipline by downgrading from his 19 string 3.5 neck solar guitar down to a mere 7 string.

Z S on the internet (Z S), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:37 (seventeen years ago)

SARZO!

http://g.sheetmusicplus.com/Look-Inside/covers/8265568.jpg

'RAPPERS I WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUNCHING IN THE FACE?' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:44 (seventeen years ago)

i like the cut of this guy's jib!

http://g.sheetmusicplus.com/Look-Inside/covers/4804976.jpg

'RAPPERS I WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUNCHING IN THE FACE?' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:45 (seventeen years ago)

rifftrax should do these videos

the sir weeze, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:46 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.harmony-central.com/ProductImages/Large/000021085.jpg

'RAPPERS I WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUNCHING IN THE FACE?' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:46 (seventeen years ago)

david lynch directed??

http://www.musicroom.com/images/catalogue/fullsize/HL00320598.jpg

'RAPPERS I WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUNCHING IN THE FACE?' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:47 (seventeen years ago)

These are all from your collection, right Matt?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 November 2008 05:49 (seventeen years ago)

haha no but i did buy a rudy sarzo audio tape thing when i was a kid, couldn't find it on the internet...

he taught you how to pluck your bass with THREE fingers instead of TWO! it was crazy....

'RAPPERS I WOULD NEVER DREAM OF PUNCHING IN THE FACE?' (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:02 (seventeen years ago)

the guitar artistry of bill frisell: starring philip seymour hoffman

i am... sasha obama (get bent), Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:45 (seventeen years ago)

i don't really know gambale but the "blues" section of this clip sounds fantastic!

i am... sasha obama (get bent), Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:50 (seventeen years ago)

a younger gambale, looking bored:

i am... sasha obama (get bent), Thursday, 13 November 2008 07:01 (seventeen years ago)

THIS GUY TROY STETINA IS MY MOM'S COUSIN. I HAVE NEVER MET HIM BUT I TALKED TO HIM ON THE PHONE. ONCE.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41GK3yJs0rL._SL500_.jpg

Nate Carson, Thursday, 13 November 2008 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

The second of Jody's youtubes is from the VERY DVD that AHz reviewed upthread. He was totally OTM by the look of it. The first one, the little blues lead section is indeed excellent. The info that Gambale is giving out in the pink tee-shirt clip does sound pretty solid.

I myself have been taking guitar lessons for the past few weeks. When you realise that you've been playing for 17yrs and you still can't play for shit, then it is time to get it on. I am learning "turn, turn, turn", which is quite difficult, but i am getting as little better already.

Pashmina, Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:03 (seventeen years ago)

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverArt/video/Large/superd_7476297.jpg

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:07 (seventeen years ago)

fuck yes
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/95/42/809a810ae7a01bc2ee54a110._AA280_.L.jpg

monkey bonkers (╓abies), Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff83/wathstud/zw1.jpg

monkey bonkers (╓abies), Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/turquoisemoleeater/guitars/wolfmarshall.jpg

monkey bonkers (╓abies), Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.musicroom.com/images/catalogue/productpage/HVP1003.jpg

monkey bonkers (╓abies), Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:33 (seventeen years ago)

has anyone seen these?

monkey bonkers (╓abies), Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:38 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.united-mutations.com/v/tg_shred2007.jpg

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:46 (seventeen years ago)

Am I right in thinking Italian-Americans are disproportionately represented in the field of ROCK DISCIPLINE?

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

They found a need and took it over.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 November 2008 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

At what point does fret-melting become face-melting?

energizing the base (briania), Thursday, 13 November 2008 14:55 (seventeen years ago)

haha unless I'm terribly mistaken, p3trucc1 is playing in branca's symphony 13 for 100 guitars today in st. louis. He was in rehearsals this week. Super nice guy. Nice 6-string bass. And his hair is a lot shorter now lulz.

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 13 November 2008 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

6-string bass dude is John Patitucci, not John Petrucci. One dude made famous by Chick Corea, the other by Dream Theatre.

Rocco Prestia's video is another one in the "doesn't suck" category.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 13 November 2008 16:39 (seventeen years ago)

...

Never mind

/emily latella

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:58 (seventeen years ago)

w0lf m@rsh@ll looks like he's cleaned up a little:

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/graphics/articles/guitarcom/wolf_marshall_header.jpg

i am... sasha obama (get bent), Friday, 14 November 2008 03:53 (seventeen years ago)

I wonder if Robert Fripp would ever lower himself to making one of these. I can imagine how it'd go too. He'd be all stern and professorial.

Trayce, Friday, 14 November 2008 04:58 (seventeen years ago)

Guitar Craft (GC) is a series of guitar and personal development classes, founded and often presented by Robert Fripp, who is best known for his work with King Crimson. The Introduction to Guitar Craft (2004) describes GC as three things:

* A way to develop a relationship with the guitar;
* A way to develop a relationship with music;
* A way to develop a relationship with oneself.

In the wider guitarist community, GC is best known for having introduced the New Standard Tuning, Fripp's term for the guitar tuning that came to him in 1983 (C, G, D, A , E, G low to high), and that he had personally switched over to by 1984. In GC itself the tuning is only one tool used towards a wider aim of re-directing the student's guitar playing from scratch.

New Guitar Craft students are not expected to have any guitar experience at all, and it has been suggested, by Fripp and students, that previous experience can sometimes work against the course objectives, because of the expectations it places on the course and on music in general.

Some course activities have little or nothing to do with the guitar, such as relaxation techniques, house and kitchen work, Tai Chi Chuan and the Alexander Technique.

any major some dude will tell you (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 14 November 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)

Hey awesome!

Trayce, Friday, 14 November 2008 05:20 (seventeen years ago)

I have to contribute to this thread...I will attempt to dupe the success of the Petrucci/Gambale/King reviews with my review of this:

http://www.midi-classics.com/i/p21522.jpg

B.L.A.M., Friday, 14 November 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

And then will move on to some of the other stuff I have. This one is the one that will undoubtedly provide more fodder for mockery and derision, but I think I actually remember it being alright as to content.

B.L.A.M., Friday, 14 November 2008 18:21 (seventeen years ago)

Hahaha, nice. Can't wait.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:21 (seventeen years ago)

I think my favorite thing from Aaron's Petrucci review:

He makes like Steve Vai at the end of Crossroads for a few minutes, then plays some shit slow for a while, finally showing us again how fast A REAL ASSHOLE LIKE HIM can play it!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

Heh heh

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

We await these reviews.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 November 2008 23:28 (seventeen years ago)

Someone explain to me Dream Theater's enduring popularity in ... Italy!

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:11 (seventeen years ago)

italy has some nutty rock fans. no detached irony in the culture whatsoever.

the birdman from the hilarious "alcatraz" prison (get bent), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

i remember the mojo article on van der graaf generator and it was like crazy beatlemania with them in italy : )

any major some dude will tell you (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 01:00 (seventeen years ago)

what a weird place!

fields of salmon, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)

ten months pass...

surprised this hasn't been mentioned:

http://cover7.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverArt/video/Large/7523958.jpg

MC Hammarskjöld (get bent), Sunday, 27 September 2009 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SKMYeXkYcgs&hl=en&fs=1&";></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SKMYeXkYcgs&hl=en&fs=1&"; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

kshighway1, Thursday, 15 October 2009 05:16 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs

kshighway1, Thursday, 15 October 2009 05:16 (sixteen years ago)

You know, this was kinda on the wrong board to start with so let me move it here...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 October 2009 05:47 (sixteen years ago)

Was it not on ILM? I just did a search for John Petrucci and this seemed like a good thread to toss that video in.

kshighway1, Thursday, 15 October 2009 06:01 (sixteen years ago)

ILE for whatever reason. Anyway it's in its spiritual home now.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 October 2009 06:09 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks Ned. :-)

kshighway1, Thursday, 15 October 2009 06:12 (sixteen years ago)

Jeff Baxter American Guitar Technique w/Japanese sub-titles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVawcjJ27vk

earlnash, Saturday, 17 October 2009 17:49 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Keyboard_Breaks:_Live_in_Chicago

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

1. "Universal Mind (When the Keyboard Broke)" 2:20
2. "The Chicago Blues & Noodle Factory" 7:03
3. "Fade Away or Keep Going?" 5:03
4. "The Haunted Keyboard" 9:34
5. "Close Encounters of the Liquid Kind" 15:13
6. "Ten Minute Warning" 5:55
7. "That 'Ol Broken Down Keyboard Blues" 6:34
8. "Liquid Anthrax" 4:55
9. "That's All Folks!" 2:12

Poll.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

I like how it just randomly mentions Charlie Benante there in the summary.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

oh hey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc3i9GdVLsI

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

oh oh levin alert!!

amada thuggindiss (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

cool legato phrases, bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k40sTyyGLd4

amada thuggindiss (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

alan holdworth talks and performs with the mighty SYNTHAXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aAYfZdkCA8&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GtbBmNEEWg&feature=related

amada thuggindiss (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

oh wow, hour long documentary about dream theater auditioning drummers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L609JsPFmmI

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRQJgZVxRX0

earlnash, Saturday, 9 August 2014 03:15 (eleven years ago)

i fucking WANT that shirt gambale's wearing in the "modes: no more mystery" pic up top. '80s geometric abstraction/bauhaus revivalism FTW.

wapo tofu (get bent), Saturday, 9 August 2014 06:25 (eleven years ago)

nine months pass...

coffee shop near my office has a chalkboard where they ask questions, today's was "celebrity living or dead you'd like to have dinner with." right up at the top someone wrote

JOHN PETRUCCI

goole, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:09 (eleven years ago)

this is on youtube

brimstead, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 21:20 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

might as well post this here, mike portnoy talks drum chops. epic hair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no4luPP6t9c

brimstead, Sunday, 7 August 2016 01:51 (nine years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Aj68pPv.jpg

brimstead, Sunday, 7 August 2016 01:55 (nine years ago)

five months pass...

Any new examples of such madness?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 19:29 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uwyHPa6RB0

i don't watch lamestream porn (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 19:34 (nine years ago)

I should have known.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 19:35 (nine years ago)

you're welcome

i don't watch lamestream porn (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 19:36 (nine years ago)

I'm honestly surprised his shows aren't just him talking the whole time.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 19:38 (nine years ago)

ned i don't know if you saw this but it's amusing tone attorney content

Carr Mercury - Holy Grail of Tone - 800 (Lino Lakes)

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 19:51 (nine years ago)

Oh dear.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 20:00 (nine years ago)


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