― toby, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
In fact, I recall reading abt the time SY took Descension as the support act and they were apparently heckled. Descension do make that sort of blistering sound.
― jess, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
It's a pity I don't have a CD burner. These MP3 files are stuck in the prison that is my computer hard drive! The only thing that makes me think (if I play this loud enough it might actually damage my speakers).
― alex in montreal, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Theres a new taj mahal travellers reissue as reviewed on the latest wire as well. prob. pick it up.
The sequencing is wrong. Here's the track listing, from rallizes web page:
1. Enter the Mirror 11'30" 2. ???????12'04" 3. ???16'12" 4. ?????11'35" 1. ?????15'32" 2. ???????8'30" 3. The Last One 25'24" Disk 1: 2nd track is called 'Night of the Assassins' 3. Flames of Ice 4. A memory is far Disk 2: don't have the translation to 1 and 2. The first 3 tracks on disc 1 is OK (1 and 2 on 'side 1' of the vinyl. Flames of ice on 'side 2' but A memory is far is not the last track on the vinyl. That is the 8:30 secs one on disc 2). Its a straight swap (since it probably wouldn't fit due to the time considerations). Can you fit 27+ mins onto one side of vinyl? Also the last (i think) 10 secs of memory is far is missing (just noting this, if you 15.32+11.35 that is slightly more than 27 mins). But i think my MP3 of the 'last one' is 21 mins long whereas I think they have all 25 mins onto vinyl (the bassline is the same 'melody' but it's a slightly different tuning I think, but I'll have to check). I'm wondering also why didn't they bootleg it onto 2xCDs. maybe vinyl was cheaper... It's a very good record. and when it's that good things like artwork don't matter. My small speakers connected to my computer cannot do justice to the sound of this band as I play the Mp3s. but my stereo speakers can as I play the vinyl (though it would surely pale in comparison to seeing this stuff live). So I'm glad I got it. Amazing what some of these bands were working at on the other side of the planet (recorded 'le 12 mars 1977 a Tachikawa' as it says on the webpage). It is a psychedelic rock record but the way they go on their 'noise assault' is pretty remarkable. so if you have a shitty computer get hold of it (I had most of these as MP3s but I had to get it). ― Julio Desouza, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
2. ???????12'04"
3. ???16'12"
4. ?????11'35"
1. ?????15'32" 2. ???????8'30" 3. The Last One 25'24" Disk 1: 2nd track is called 'Night of the Assassins' 3. Flames of Ice 4. A memory is far Disk 2: don't have the translation to 1 and 2. The first 3 tracks on disc 1 is OK (1 and 2 on 'side 1' of the vinyl. Flames of ice on 'side 2' but A memory is far is not the last track on the vinyl. That is the 8:30 secs one on disc 2). Its a straight swap (since it probably wouldn't fit due to the time considerations). Can you fit 27+ mins onto one side of vinyl? Also the last (i think) 10 secs of memory is far is missing (just noting this, if you 15.32+11.35 that is slightly more than 27 mins). But i think my MP3 of the 'last one' is 21 mins long whereas I think they have all 25 mins onto vinyl (the bassline is the same 'melody' but it's a slightly different tuning I think, but I'll have to check). I'm wondering also why didn't they bootleg it onto 2xCDs. maybe vinyl was cheaper... It's a very good record. and when it's that good things like artwork don't matter. My small speakers connected to my computer cannot do justice to the sound of this band as I play the Mp3s. but my stereo speakers can as I play the vinyl (though it would surely pale in comparison to seeing this stuff live). So I'm glad I got it. Amazing what some of these bands were working at on the other side of the planet (recorded 'le 12 mars 1977 a Tachikawa' as it says on the webpage). It is a psychedelic rock record but the way they go on their 'noise assault' is pretty remarkable. so if you have a shitty computer get hold of it (I had most of these as MP3s but I had to get it). ― Julio Desouza, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
1. ?????15'32"
2. ???????8'30"
3. The Last One 25'24"
Disk 1: 2nd track is called 'Night of the Assassins' 3. Flames of Ice 4. A memory is far Disk 2: don't have the translation to 1 and 2.
The first 3 tracks on disc 1 is OK (1 and 2 on 'side 1' of the vinyl. Flames of ice on 'side 2' but A memory is far is not the last track on the vinyl. That is the 8:30 secs one on disc 2).
Its a straight swap (since it probably wouldn't fit due to the time considerations). Can you fit 27+ mins onto one side of vinyl?
Also the last (i think) 10 secs of memory is far is missing (just noting this, if you 15.32+11.35 that is slightly more than 27 mins). But i think my MP3 of the 'last one' is 21 mins long whereas I think they have all 25 mins onto vinyl (the bassline is the same 'melody' but it's a slightly different tuning I think, but I'll have to check).
I'm wondering also why didn't they bootleg it onto 2xCDs. maybe vinyl was cheaper...
It's a very good record. and when it's that good things like artwork don't matter. My small speakers connected to my computer cannot do justice to the sound of this band as I play the Mp3s. but my stereo speakers can as I play the vinyl (though it would surely pale in comparison to seeing this stuff live). So I'm glad I got it. Amazing what some of these bands were working at on the other side of the planet (recorded 'le 12 mars 1977 a Tachikawa' as it says on the webpage). It is a psychedelic rock record but the way they go on their 'noise assault' is pretty remarkable. so if you have a shitty computer get hold of it (I had most of these as MP3s but I had to get it).
― Julio Desouza, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Joseph Tham, Friday, 11 October 2002 07:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 11 October 2002 09:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 12 October 2002 06:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 12 October 2002 10:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 12 October 2002 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stephen cooper, Monday, 28 October 2002 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
(if anyone here has it etc etc x 100000000000000)
― zemko (bob), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 21:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― zemko (bob), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― zemko (bob), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 21:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
ah, stephen cooper, where are you? you emailed me and we chatted for a while and now you're gone 4evah!
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 21:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 6 March 2003 07:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― JasonD (JasonD), Thursday, 6 March 2003 07:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 6 March 2003 07:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
there are a couple of things labelled variously "mass studio demo" or "mars studio demo" that are somewhat different - one features two versions of "romance of black grief" (i think) that are surprisingly subtle and have some nice tape-delay messing about. the other (september 9th, 1980) is atypical rallizes stuff with some noisy guitar.
the "red" cdr is pretty good, too, but as with all rallizes stuff they generally just did the same batch of songs again and again.
― your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 6 March 2003 08:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
slsk!
thanks, your null fame; btw, are you on slsk? cos i'm d/ling rallizes stuff from someone whose user name isn't all that far from yours.
― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 6 March 2003 09:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 8 March 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 8 March 2003 17:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Eclipse [Iskra 001]Axis Another Revolvable Thing 1 [Offbeat ORLP-1005]Axis Another Revolvable Thing 2 [Offbeat ORLP-1009]
- Holly
― holly jupiter, Saturday, 15 March 2003 02:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
1. Strong Out Deeper Than the Night (no, it is not supposed to be "strung")2. Reapers of the Night
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
yeah if anyone has this stuff and is up for tape trading. gimme gimme email.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 08:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 15:57 (twenty years ago) link
They are the japanese grateful dead but like better than that. hopefully some shit will appear some day.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 23 April 2003 16:13 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 24 April 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 17:57 (twenty years ago) link
― summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Thursday, 24 April 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 24 April 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 24 April 2003 19:25 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 25 April 2003 12:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 April 2003 12:12 (twenty years ago) link
QBICO Label:
OUT NOW QBICO 09/10
ARTHUR DOYLE/TAKASHI MIZUTANI/SABU TOYOZUMI- Live in Japan, 1997 (QBICO 09/10) 2LP folder cover, Qbico 09: black&red vinyl (very few pink&black or brown vinyl)/Qbico 10: black&yelloworange, liner notes by Ilya Monosov, cover artwork by Qbico, 450 copies only. $25. 26 copies only with hand-made covers, numbered from A to Z, price: $59 each
Arthur Doyle- tenor sax, flute, voice/Takashi Mizutani- electric guitar/SabuToyozumi- drums
Rec. live November 14, 1997 @ Manda-la2, Tokyo, Japan
info at http://qbic.web.planet.it/QBICO%20RECORDS.htm
― b zuraw (bryan zuraw), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 00:49 (twenty years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 01:53 (twenty years ago) link
Anyone interested in Japanese psych/scuzz should seek the Gaseneta disc on PSF. 1978-era total punk garbage guitar that influenced High Rise later (who apparently shared some music on a cassette release with Gaseneta). Imagine speed-psych acid mothers minus the reverb, with a lot grottier production and a guy plowing through solos ultra-fast with gloves on...hits the spot for me!
― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 03:20 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:09 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 15 May 2003 00:06 (twenty years ago) link
got this last night: its pretty good in a sort of blue humans vein (I suppose its more to do with instrumentation and the fact that doyle is there). I'll have to hear this a few more times before i can say more on it.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 15 May 2003 10:32 (twenty years ago) link
The fact that I first thought it was "subtle" only shows the depth of my guitar-noise jadedness. It pretty much singes your eyebrows off. The tempo is slower overall. There is a very cool one-chord blues vamp that sounds a bit like John Lee Hooker on moonshine & ayahuasca, and though it claims to all be from one source, I suspect it may not be. THere are differences in sound, songs fade a bit too slowly, revealing the beginning of the next song to have actually been another one.
Thanks for the report on the Doyle disc Julio.........
Also, Ed is already out of High Or Die. Happy hunting.
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 15:22 (twenty years ago) link
Wild Party 1975 (quite possibly the most intense guitar noise barrage in human history)Studio & Soundboard 1975-1978France Demo TapeRedBlue
you might want to avoid Mars (or Mass) Demo. Pretty pedestrian...
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
maybe i'm missing the point, having only heard '77 live, but i can't help that thinking people can get a bit overexcited when something is a) japanese b) noisy and c) hard to find.
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link
unless you start explaining the 'pointlessness' of it all and in what way it 'misreads' psychedelia you will end looking a fule.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:35 (twenty years ago) link
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link
you are gonna have to give me examples of this. I think what rallizes do (two guitars feeding back and virtually bleeding into each other) with constant bass/drum pattern is something that no band I've heard of sounds like.
what is so 'hackish' abt their 'bluesy' guitar solos? You see, they are lifted from the blues but its not menat to be exactly like blues and so what if the bass parts are lifted from hendrix. The only thing you can say abt bass parts is that they are repeating pattern. Its mixed high up and it heightens the 'body blow' effect but its something to hang onto as they throw these formless guiatr shapes for 10 + minutes, same with the drums, which sound competent to me.
And song isn't their strong point but its a mix of song and jamming. its psych rock so you're gonna get that.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 06:51 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:10 (twenty years ago) link
i think people have overintellectualized responses to this band, i really do. if it was just a tape of your brother-in-law's pick-up band you'd probably toss it in the bin (but discreetly, so as not to offend the brother-in-law). i will, however, give les rallizes denudes another chance just so i'm not guilty of condeming something without trying to understand it first.
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link
When its done well, its exceptional.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link
― libbey adams, Friday, 13 June 2003 19:31 (twenty years ago) link
heh.
funny you should mention neil young bcz just on wednesday i got hold of the 'red' and 'green' CDRs and I got reminded of Neil Young (guitars not as distorted as live 77, basically comes down to that). I think the blue cheer connection come from the use of distortion whereas the velvets comes from the use of repeating basslines and drum patterns.
but yeah, its a lot of things.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 27 June 2003 03:36 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:37 (twenty years ago) link
I like Rallizes but think it's decidedly minor work. Fushitsusha or Kosukuya they ain't.
― Kjoerup, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:53 (twenty years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 10:19 (twenty years ago) link
I have a legit 'Live 77' cd. I'll be happy to let it go for, oh, $400.
― Kjoerup, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:34 (twenty years ago) link
Watch for Les Rallizes Denudes & Yellow - Sessions at Fussa double disc. Also, I wasn't aware until recently that there were 2 Doyle/Mizutani trio shows recorded... Hiroshi Nar has been releasing a ton of stuff, including a live thing with Nishinihon.
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soukesian, Monday, 27 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsBXLh-v_II&search=rallizes%20denudes
Seems to be some sort of Japanese TV arts show retrospective segment. Any Japanese speakers out there able to clue us in on who is being interviewed and what they have to say?
― Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link
anger
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Dug out 77 live for the first time in a while here. Yup, still great.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
milton's link above is dead--i wonder what it was that got him angry?
― ian, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
probably typical VT price gouging and/or hyperbole.
― sleeve, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I should spend some time with 77 live today.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
perversely my favourite rallizes song is the acoustic kioku ha toi which i find myself humming on the regular. Tho sometimes Enter the Mirror, the Last One or Night of the Assassins takes its place.
― BIG jock KNEW aka the steindriver (jim), Monday, 7 September 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
In the past month I realized LRD are one of the best bands I've ever heard, just from the '77 Live album, which gets ten times better each time I hear it (especially on drugs). They have a few other releases floatin around too, like Yoda Go-A-Go-Go, which kicks fucking ass!!
― falc0n2600, Monday, 7 September 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Still one of my all-time favorites
― Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Live 77 is indeed a classic. A pity that none of their other releases matches it.
― Duke, Monday, 7 September 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Here's a quick blast of that, from youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HidM7vrL37E
― Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
At least I'm pretty certain it's from that disc, cut to film for wherever. Like to think it gives a feel for what it might have been like to be upfront. But LOUD LOUD LOUD and endless.
― Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
great band
― Lord Crutsos Omicron (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 7 September 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I notice from this month's Wire that Phoenix records (whoever they may be) have (re)issued 'digitally remastered' editions of "Heavier Than A Death In The Family" and "Blind Baby Has Its Mother's Eyes". Limited to 1000 CDs each, and LPs are apparently forthcoming:
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/shop/search.php?search=Les+Rallizes+Denudes
― Duke, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
My copy of Heavier Than A Death In The Family doesn't play on any CD player known to man, so beware...
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Friday, 16 July 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Phoenix = Radioactive Records
So I wouldn't believe that it's really remastered in any significant way.
― Pants Perdu (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:09 (thirteen years ago) link
heavier than a death is so fucking great, would love to own an actual copy, even on pheonix/radioactive
my copy of satori is on radioactive
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link
heavier than a death is so fucking great, would love to own an actual copy, even on phoenix/radioactive
this sums it up. might wait for the vinyl
― Duke, Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah if I'd known it was Radioactive I would've thought twice...can't imagine the vinyl pressings being great either.
Info on this guy : http://www.yogarecords.com/press/radioactive.html
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Do those records *need* remastering in any significant way?!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 July 2010 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link
needledropping is a kind of remastering
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Saturday, 17 July 2010 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link
also didn't realise that Phoenix = Radioactive. if so, i wld say they've improved the quality of their product - i've got their reish of the Improvisation Sep. 1975 alb by Ichiyanagi/Kosugi/Ranta and it looks & sounds great.
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 17 July 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link
man fuck James Plummer and whatever scam label he's running now.
plz read that link above if any of y'all are seriously considering buying these.
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Saturday, 17 July 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
bought dreaded phoenix copies of heavier than a death in the family and blind baby has its mother's eyes today, with significant regret. but there is no way that i'm otherwise gonna get my hands on "real copies," and no way that anyone's making significant scratch off limited runs of obscure shit like this, nice vinyl and decent packaging at high-but-not-obscene prices. it's not undercutting any legit market that i can see; alls it's doing is removing some of the geek cache associated with the rarity. and for me, it's functionally valid. i mean like i have all these tunes on my ipod, but they don't fucking work there. i basically only use my ipod for shuffling and to get familiar with poppy new stuff. i don't want some blone out 20-minute drug drone reverb epic to come on when i'm biking to work. it's unsuitable. i want to listen to this shit when i'm bonding w/ the couch and reading comix in ur wee wee hours, and that's the point at which i'm spinning vinyl. vinyl is appropriate in this case wr2 my ancient mariner lifestyle patterning.
and i'm just making excuses, i know, but i don't see what the real harm is. like same with FTB's satori. it sucks that my radioactive copy is pirate bullshit, but it was fucking hard to find otherwise. i can't imagine that anyone got rich off jacking it, but lots of people got turned on, and that's all to the good, afaic. still thinking of picking up that german oak.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link
"people can choose" atm, !!!
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:55 (thirteen years ago) link
still thinking of picking up that german oak.
Read this as "Listening to rallizes has made me so strong, I think I might pick up that tree over there!"
― Mark G, Thursday, 2 September 2010 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link
it's true, i did. my palms are now all sticky with the teutonic sap.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I need to mention that there have been a number of issues/re-issues of Les Rallizes Denudes stuff on the rather amazing Univive label. These are either newly discovered tapes or nicely cleaned up. They're really expensive multi-disc jobs w/ nice packaging & the whole works. They're also floating around on the p2p sites. Rumor has it that Mizutani may be involved in some way with this label, at the very least bestowing at least somewhat legit status on them. I understand that they are CDs, not CDRs. Some titles:
Mars Studio 1980 Laid Down '76 Double Heads Black Rainbow Double Heads 6CD Limited edition Laid Down'76 again One More Night Tripper Cradle Saloon78 Great White Wonder
Wild Trips
Wild Trip In the West
I would also like to amend my earlier comments on my olde screen name re. the most intense guitar freakblast. It is in fact France Demo Tape, not Wild Party 1975. Let me just say: Holy f#%king shit!! My joy at having discovered this gem is somewhat dimmed by the realization that my quest for the ultimate gnarly skronkblast tsunami had perhaps ended. It grabs your head and makes a brain smoothie. Its a paint-peeling, wallpaper-yellowing, houseplant-killing, pet-epilepsy-inducing bundle of joy. If it were to take human form, just one of its sperm could wipe a badger's ass with Chuck Norris's nutsack. It could wad Chuck Norris into a ball & shoot him into low orbit with a slingshot fashioned from ox femurs & wolverine hymen.
― ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
@contenderizer: Very few of the Rallizes records were ever released "officially" in the first place. One discog I looked at listed only Live '77, their side of Oz Days, and the 7"EP as being official. That's 3 out of a zillion CDs & LPs that are in circulation! I'm not sure how accurate that is, whether "official" means self-released or what. I'm just pretty excited to have some of them, myself... :-)
― ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 2 September 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
also recommend Tachikawa December 17th 1976. Not sure what label its on. Good show, good sound.
― ImprovSpirit, Friday, 3 September 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Very few of the Rallizes records were ever released "officially" in the first place. One discog I looked at listed only Live '77, their side of Oz Days, and the 7"EP as being official. [...] I'm just pretty excited to have some of them, myself... :-)
yeah, that's how i feel. there's clearly a demand, so someone might as well meet it. hell, i've read that only live 77 and the single are really/truly official. who knows?
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link
will definitely try & DL the france demo you mention. haven't heard it, sounds amazing.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i didn't 'rallizes' before that improvspirit was john b from oz days gone by...
any clues where i might find a dload of the france demo?
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 September 2010 07:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I think buying these versions of Les Rallizes stuff is not too objectionable. Pretty much the entire Rallizes catalog is bootleg and it was tolerated even before the digital file swapping era. On the other hand, stuff like the Flower Travellin' Band material being bootlegged/pirated is really bad news. Phoenix seems to be taking some of their cues from the Japrocksampler material. A few years after Krautrocksampler a lot of legit reissues of rare German records started showing up on various labels, to everyone's benefit. Would there have been the Kraftwerk re-masters or the Neu! box set without the interest generated by this book and other artists and writers turning people on to the stuff at the same time? I sincerely doubt it. One of the worst consequences of pirate operations like Phoenix is that they basically destroy any chance of a legit, licensed, decent-sounding official reissue by sucking up all the demand with their BS needledrop bootlegs. I'm appalled that Forced Exposure carries Phoenix's stuff. Anyone ever inquire about that? Sorry for the derail, this has been on my mind a lot lately...
― FRESH MEAT (MFB), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
"i can't imagine that anyone got rich off jacking it"
the guy sells to distros and stores ALL OVER THE WORLD. he's making money. i actually did bring this up to someone at FE. cuz i reviewed the search party album in my column and told people NOT to buy the cd but instead download it illegally until someone put out a legit one. i didn't get the cd from them, but they sell it. same guy who does radioactive/fallout has the xian psych label. i wish that FE would stop selling that stuff, but what am i gonna do.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 September 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
hell maybe this is legit. never knew it existed. don't know the label either.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001M2IXAO/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000009GPX&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0TES9WCSCK40ZQBJVRDZ
― scott seward, Friday, 3 September 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i want that german oak album too. will not buy it if its that scummy guy's boot. would pay extra money for fancy legit vinyl.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 September 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I think buying these versions of Les Rallizes stuff is not too objectionable.
I object to the fact that one of the CDs I bought is a dud, how much extra does it cost this motherfucker to use a decent pressing plant ffs? So are the vinyl versions decent quality pressings then?
― the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Merry-Go-Round Records (a division of S. Korea's Beatball Record) reissue of Montgomery Chapel is legit. mini-LP gatefold, repro'd liner notes, i don't know of any other. such an awesome album. holier-than-thou squares not taking drugs to make music for others to take drugs to.
in their first incarnation, Heavy... and Blind Baby... were already shameless boots, even if the pressed CDs gave them an air of legitimacy. so i wouldn't lose sleep over it.
― babytown frolics (Mr. Hal Jam), Friday, 3 September 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Forced Exposure also carried the much-loathed Monk & Doxy labels.. Monk is expensive 'bootlegs' of old-time material without any liner notes & ugly packaging; doxy is more just straight bootlegs of stuff like hank williams & lightnin hopkins rarities. ugh.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Friday, 3 September 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh, if it were up to me i would not really even want to carry a lot of the phoenix stuff at the store, but we've had ppl coming in for weeks asking if we were gonna get those denudes rekkerds..
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Friday, 3 September 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
One of the worst consequences of pirate operations like Phoenix is that they basically destroy any chance of a legit, licensed, decent-sounding official reissue by sucking up all the demand with their BS needledrop bootlegs. I'm appalled that Forced Exposure carries Phoenix's stuff. Anyone ever inquire about that? Sorry for the derail, this has been on my mind a lot lately...
― FRESH MEAT (MFB), Friday, September 3, 2010 6:46 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
i see yr point, but don't know that this is true in the case of FTB. can't imagine that he sold more than a few thousand copies of that thing internationally. if there was ever enough interest to justify a legit reissue, it still exists. hell, i'd buy it again just to get right with god, and i imagine a lot of the people who bought radioactive/phoenix copies (hardcore music geeks, all of us, i guarantee) would do the same.
both the FTB and rallizes LPs sound excellent, imo. packaging sucks, but i have no problem with the sound or the pressing quality.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
a lot of the time, it seems to me, a steady stream of bootlegs aimed at geeks does more to build up and maintain interest than it does to diminish it. but who knows...
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
dude, selling "a few thousand copies" of a CD that retails for $17 (more in the case of the LPs) with no royalty payments or label hassles equals more money that most people on this board make in a month. and the guy has like 40 bootlegs out under the new label name! want a straight up needledrop of Silver Apples? every release of his that gets purchased funds more blatant thievery.
http://www.forcedexposure.com/labels/phoenix.records.uk.html
― sleeve, Friday, 3 September 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Phoenix put out a copy of the Fraction album (twice according to discogs). And I know that Mexican Summer is putting it out as well, and they claim this: "At long last, the FIRST fully authorized reissue of the psychedelic hard rock private press to end them all." And they also have a Bobb Trimble single as well. Are they somehow involved with this Phoenix label at all? Or am I way off base here
― van smack, Friday, 3 September 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll bow out here cuz i don't want to arouse any more ire. wasn't trying to defend the radioactive/phoenix dude(s) on any level. if anyone wants to license and press up legit copies of FTB's satori, i will pay good money for one.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
@ Ward: Its all over Soulseek. Or so I've heard... ;-)
― ImprovSpirit, Saturday, 4 September 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't want some blone out 20-minute drug drone reverb epic to come on when i'm biking to work. it's unsuitable.
I'm sure Mizutani would sympathise with this.
Sure he's also laughing in his bunker, somewhere, on how this stuff has gone. While others release every gig and note he's not even bothering and then you read news of a 'release'. Think a quid is too much to spend.
French Demo tape...is ok, I guess, never made a huge impression but I'll re-listen - only ever return to Live '77 and a gig from about '93 or so and a couple of other things.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 4 September 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
live 77 is one of the greatest rock records, no challop
like raw power, neu! 75, second edition, evol great
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 4 September 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
saw the ethan mousike doc last night (in a theater!), it totally rules, just heady washes of guitar and long shots of blackness (rallizes shows were apparently lit by flashbulbs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHpLkDYfjew
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
would like to see that doc. is it coming out on DVD or anything?
― tylerw, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
That is a fantastic clip! I love the particularly thick, mean sound of it.
― brain (krakow), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
Had heard bad things about this doc, but of course I have to see it anyway.
Thanks for the clip - would be great to see it in the cinema. Preferably IMAX.
― Soukesian, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
i mean the documentary is just like listening to a live bootleg but there's someone ineptly filming the event
total magic
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
Today My Life Changed (RFI: Rallizes Denudes)
Lol, linked to that cracking youtube on another thread -- ilx has too many Rallizes thread (or not enough, depending on your POV)
Saw someone posting a few gigs from the 80s on youtube a few weeks ago, its in colour and takes away the mystique, but it sounds quite good.
Rallizes played some shows w/avant-garde theatre groups headed by Shuji Terayama so the punishing volumes and strobe lighting in that setting were (I guess) meant to heighten the tension.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 February 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
new the table is the table sn
― crüt, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
Man, I was at that documentary screening too, at the Spectacle - I didn't enjoy it but I guess I just don't enjoy the whole lot of amateur-shot concert footage documentaries. I went in to it thinking there'd be more of a narrative structure. Am definitely humming the bass line of night of the assassin everywhere tho.
― tomorrow, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
Glad to know I'm not the only one that does that.
3-way tie between that, Flames of Ice and The Last One.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 February 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
aww, they are fans of H!tler ;-)
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 8 June 2013 09:03 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJCMJPgLCZM
^ Trying to think what Rallizes song the opening of The Everly Brothers' version of Love Hurts reminds me off.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 December 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link
Its probably Night of the Assassins but I swear there is something else.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 December 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link
Epic article on the Rallizes myth:
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/les-rallizes-denudes-feature
― rising stones cross (anagram), Monday, 8 December 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
Despite stints in studios and alleged talks with Richard Branson and Virgin Records, Les Rallizes Dénudés never issued any official material until 1991.
lol #1
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 December 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
took me years to discover the source of that bass line on assassins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Will_Follow_Him#Cover_versions
also lifted by amon duul ii on the only memorable part of carnival in babylon
― no lime tangier, Monday, 8 December 2014 19:20 (nine years ago) link
epic article contains actually zero information about band lol
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 December 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
no lime - I know of that source for the bassline. The interesting thing about rallizes which not really many people acknowledge is how much in love with 50s rock n' roll they were (everyone thinks the starting point for this stuff is a mix of Blue Cheer and Doors amped up). That guitar at the beginning of the Everly's cover is pure rallizes.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 December 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
Its a terrible piece, the worse was the speculation on Haino and Mizutani at the end. The article by Cummings from '99 (and various reviews) still is the best piece I've seen on this stuff. Hilarious (and not too surprising) that he hates that book by Julian Cope.
Cummings should not be too harsh on it, he has always struck me as being v very aware of making this stuff into 'esoterica'. A trap this piece falls head into. I'd love to know what they've 'influenced'.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 December 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
Not be too harsh on his own writings, that is. I'm sure the Cope book is terrible.
the cope book is terrible, though the list at the end is very valuable
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 8 December 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link
I had a chance to chat with Kawabata briefly at Terrastock 7 about Cope's book and he was diplomatic, but noted that it didn't help when album sleeves were shown of a completely different release from the one he was talking about.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 December 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
If that piece had been written by an ilxor and/or had not appeared on a corporate website it would no doubt be getting plenty of plaudits. The fact that it contains zero information is kind of the point of the article, isn't it? It's a piece about the mystery, and speculation is fair game, as is characterising Rallizes as esoterica (which is how I've always regarded them).
― rising stones cross (anagram), Monday, 8 December 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
ha yeah, i didn't think it was a bad article (maybe a little overlong).
― tylerw, Monday, 8 December 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
i learned a couple of things anyway ... i'm not as steeped in it as others though.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 December 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
If that piece had been written by an ilxor and/or had not appeared on a corporate website it would no doubt be getting plenty of plaudits.
What does where the article has appeared or whether the person who wrote it posts on here has to do with anything? Appreciate the posting but it isn't that good.
I don't find 'em that mysterious either. Some people who make things choose not to talk about it, or release that much. And because of the kind of group that was, i.e. one that was ever going to appeal to twenty people, it isn't too surprising that there was a revolving door policy of personnel and that was one of them was possibly then involved in political activity (or terrorism, take your pick) as many Japanese youth (and many from Europe and developed countries) were taking part in action and 'holidaying' in Palestine at that time.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 December 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, thought the writer (who might be an ilxor for all I know) went far too hard on the whole in-pursuit-of-the-mystery angle when in fact there's quite a lot of footage of rallizes out there, not to mention all those hours and hours and hours of bootlegs. It's the kind of thing that only really works when there's some kind of revelation or encounter at the end - and as that was obviously never going to happen, it made the whole thing feel pretty pointless (and the Haino/Mizutani stuff seemed like third hand gossip/speculation that added nothing to the piece).
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 8 December 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
they are one of the half dozen or so most worthwhile rock ensembles though i have never felt any need to find out about them, to gtranslate .jp pages about them, to verify the apocryphal tales about their involvement with the united red army and so forth
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Monday, 8 December 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
when in fact there's quite a lot of footage of rallizes out there, not to mention all those hours and hours and hours of bootlegs
When I first thought that listening to them might be something to do (as a result of that piece on The Wire) I couldn't find anything whatsoever for a good while. My copy of Live '77 is on this very crappy bit of vinyl with a photocopied photo of Mizutani (I kid you not). It got way better on slsk (bootleg heaven) but now you just hit youtube and there are days of it, along with pretty crappy video footage that would probably get rid of the mystique.
There are some fairly interesting angles (some which would require sometime to research and write-up), and some proper highlights comps to be done. Memory is gone but I had a top [so many versions] of The Last One.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 December 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
i dunno, they're pretty mysterious to me. i mean, relative to other bands? you guys will regret it when i'm accepting my best documentary oscar for "searching for mizutani" wherein I track him down and make him perform in dodger stadium.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 December 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
an empty dodger stadium, I assume
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 December 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
Dodgers will be playing at the Echoplex
― Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 08:03 (nine years ago) link
― xyzzzz__, Monday, December 8, 2014 2:41 PM (2 days ago)
somebody please do this, would love to know what's worth checking out beyond Live '77 (although I draw the line at buying Phoenix stuff)
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
A new high profile fan
https://instagram.com/p/5QU5F1JFMr/
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 July 2015 02:48 (eight years ago) link
https://instagram.com/p/5QVLvWpFNG/
There's a song on the 13.7.74 set (in the Great White Wonder box) called, or mistranslated as "You Were Known" with a lovely cycling chord sequence at a somewhat relaxed tempo that sounds like something Boards Of Canada might use. It's not a million miles from Dayvan Cowboy. Of course our boy proceeds to wring seven shades of glorious atonal sh!t out of it for a good nine minutes.
Note, a recording supposedly bearing the same title on the "Are You Ralliezed?" release and available on YouTube, appears to be another song entirely.
― Noel Emits, Monday, 28 September 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link
ysi?
― twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
not that 74 set, but this 76 set just went up over on big o - http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2535
― tylerw, Monday, 28 September 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link
yall there is so much lrd of questionable legitimacy on spotify. like, nearly grateful dead level embarrassment of riches
― adam, Monday, 28 September 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link
ha really? never even thought to look. wonder who puts that stuff up?
― tylerw, Monday, 28 September 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link
Anyone know if the discs in the Univive boxes have two-second gaps between tracks?
Double Heads Legendary Live is fantastique isn't it, especially the last set (23rd March 1981).
― Noel Emits, Saturday, 24 October 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
Yeah that's one of the better versions of "Last One"
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 October 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4jJpRViOQI
what a bootleg
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 October 2016 10:26 (seven years ago) link
Listening to the France Demos today. It don't get much better than this, folks
― Wimmels, Saturday, 29 October 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link
About 18 minutes into (Flightless Bird): seems to be VU "New Age" strum & drum cadences w flying saucers, aurora borealis, electric razors having seizures, occasionally.
― dow, Saturday, 29 October 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link
some kind of howling zombie feedback collision far down the subway tunnel now---flashbacks to The Strain
― dow, Saturday, 29 October 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link
emerging from tunnel
― dow, Saturday, 29 October 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link
I didn't know it was released as Flightless Bird actually, just sorta been listening on the random - the echo-y stuff in Enter the Mirror and Flames of Ice, with all the strum & drum...its something very 50s(?) I mean they probably are one of the best psych bands that really have an affinity and channel that specific, late 50s rock & roll sound. There is a slower, more languid pace..
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 October 2016 11:26 (seven years ago) link
I mean the change of pace from one version of Flames of Ice in Live '77 to this one here.
The stabbing riffs in Flames of Ice are so addictive - totally a late 50s hangover.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 October 2016 12:05 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I hear the 50s rock thing in so many of these bass lines.
How do you guys rate Naked Giza Star? I know it's just a comp but it seems to cover a pretty wide span of time (73 to 87) and, according to Discogs, "originated from a request by a music critic in 2003 for Mizutani to produce a high-quality release from a master source." It always goes (relatively) cheap, I was thinking about grabbing that one to feed this kick I'm on. Lately it's been all about France Demos and the mellow-but-still-blown-out psych folk genius of Deeper Than The Night (which has the best / worst cover art I've ever seen)
― Wimmels, Sunday, 30 October 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link
I'd been checking occasionally but hadn't seen that France Demo Tapes had had a more accessible release, although it does seem to be another Radioactive / Phoenix related label. That version of The Last One is blasted even by usual Rallizes standards. Isn't one of the other tracks also on Blind Baby, though?
― Noel Emits, Sunday, 30 October 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link
I'll have to check, I'm not sure, haven't heard that one in a long time, and only have a crappy CDR boot of it. But yeah, the version of FDT I have is on Bamboo which iirc is another label by that Phoenix / Radioactive guy
― Wimmels, Sunday, 30 October 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS3TzTeqxbc
this one is just so much loose leaked feedback
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link
Naked Giza Sta
Giving it a listen to a few cuts I could find and I'm not sure on it. The fuzz I can always hook it to my veins but not reaching cathedral levels for me..
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link
I've seen a couple of reviews of Naked Diza Star (I'm quite sure it's Diza with a D) complain that the discs are CDRs, so tread carefully.
― Duke, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
It is Naked Diza Star, you are correct
Listened to some of it yesterday. Only issue I have is the sequencing, it sorta skips around and spans a lot of time (73 to 87), but there are some pretty great jams on here. Surprised by how much I dug "The Last One" from '87. Also surprised that the audio fidelity of these boots never really improved in like 15 years. Like it's often difficult to tell what 'era' you are listening to based on audio fidelity alone.
But yeah, CDR or no CDR, it's quite a bit of LRD for not much dough, so I may go for it, if only to have some new jams for the car
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
So has anyone figured out why there's a swastika on the drum set in that one video? Because I love this band but it's been bumming me out since I saw it. And yes, I registered an account just so I could ask this question.
― berlihe, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
link ?
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 03:57 (four years ago) link
Sorry, it's from way earlier in the thread: https://youtu.be/sbhtAejVmEg
It's on the kick drum; you can see it pretty clearly at around 5:30. I know Mizutani was involved in radical left politics, but sometimes radical left-wingers become radical right-wingers. I have a feeling something else is going on here, but it just bugs me not to know because I otherwise idolize this band.
― berlihe, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
probably general cluelessness/shock value thing going on
― global tetrahedron, Thursday, 9 May 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link
yeah, my best guess is it's a stooges tribute sort of thing ?
i did like four hours of research this morning and nothing turned up.
sent a few emails, will see if that yields anything but i strongly suspect (and hope) this was an idiosyncratic, very stupid, isolated occurrence.
― budo jeru, Thursday, 9 May 2019 05:02 (four years ago) link
Thanks for the replies! Yeah, I almost wonder if it was just there from the last act or something. I did a fair amount of research too (limited, of course, by not speaking Japanese), but all references to politics are to the Japanese Red Army Faction, etc. Let me know if you hear anything interesting back from your e-mails!
― berlihe, Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link
i did hear back and was tipped to a small group of far-right japanese bands doing ultranationalist / oi type things, none of which i feel like discussing in this thread. that said, i went down a discogs rabbit hole trying to see if there was any crossover between musicians in that scene and mitzutani's band c. '94 or really ever. nothing came up but tbh i didn't try all that hard. if that seems like a promising tip to you, feel free to send me an ilx mail and i can give you names of bands and musicians who were most certainly using nazi iconography / lyrics on purpose. as for me i'm going to move on i guess.
― budo jeru, Friday, 10 May 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link
I thought the swastika was used quite a lot for shock value during punk and before. You see it on Siouxdie's armband, Side thirty, Gonn's amp cover et etc.
So would think it tied in with that.
Not sure if Ron Asheton's Nazi clothing fetishism does. That may be his own aesthetic.
― Stevolende, Friday, 10 May 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link
my phone autocorrected Siouxsie's armband and Sid's tshirt. THere were other uses of the symbol at the time too.& Gonn were 10 years earlier, their Black Out of Gretely is a killer garage track.
― Stevolende, Friday, 10 May 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link
Thanks for looking into it -- I'm tempted to do that discogs digging, but I think instead I'll just choose to believe that it was the drummer's misguided Stooges tribute. I just think that if Mizutani had taken a Nazi turn in the '90s, that would have made it into the legend. The fact that he played with Arthur Doyle in '97 also makes it unlikely (though not impossible!) that he believed in Aryan supremacy.
― berlihe, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
not sure if anything is to be gained by my weighing in here but ime the general Japanese grasp of Naziism and its tenets, both in theory and in practice, is very limited. This stuff is not taught in Japanese schools, the European context and history of it is obscured, and the understanding of the symbolism is vague. The average Japanese person does not really know what a Nazi was (much less a Jew).
That being said, it makes it more likely that that flag was more in the spirit of punk provocateurs, primarily British, that trotted out Nazi imagery for shock value, a detailed discussion of which recently took place here: The Ian Curtis memorial thread. It seems reasonable to assume that Les Rallizes Denudes were not real European Theater WWII buffs and more likely taking cues from a musical culture/iconography with which they were more passingly familiar (Stooges, UK punk, etc.)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link
It has been announced via the official Rallizes website that Takashi Mizutani died in 2019, which is a very on-brand way of breaking this news:https://www.lesrallizesdenudes-official.com/
Heaviest RIP. The statement on the website says we can expect archival releases "with far more alive and striking sound than the bootlegs that have been circulating over twenty years"(!)
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link
damn rip
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 19:53 (two years ago) link
some are saying that Mizutani may not actually be gone ... former band members are claiming they talked to him last year. the plot thickens?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
Big if true!
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link
rip...if true, lol
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 22:42 (two years ago) link
this is all so much in character, happy to remain confused (esp if we get better quality recordings that aren't on that fucking Phoenix guy's pirate label)
― Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Thursday, 21 October 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link
https://thequietus.com/articles/30783-makuto-kubota-les-rallizes-denudes-interview
― Duke, Friday, 5 November 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link
Interview with former bassist Makoto Kabuta, who's overseeing the remastering
― Duke, Friday, 5 November 2021 13:05 (two years ago) link
that was fabulous, thanks. I hope they sue the shit out of the Radioactive/Phoenix dude.
― Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link
My copy of '77 Live (retitled Le 12 Mars 1977 à Tachikawa is on the "Over Level" label, which only put out two releases according to Discogs; the other one is another Rallizes bootleg from 1972.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link
does seem like he's probably made a decent chunk of change off of this music. also he is very lame.
― tylerw, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
amazing interview though! excited to see what comes next... LRD deserves way better than what they've gotten, will be great to have official, well-done versions of these records. will remastering change the entire vibe, though??? (probably not)
― tylerw, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link
lol I hope not!
― Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link
Decent masters should only enhance the vibe! Had no idea about the Hosono / Sandii & the Sunsetz connection.
― witherspoons (Matt #2), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link
Glad I offloaded most of the boots I had (especialy from the aforementioned organisation) but I'm sort of expecting releases to trickle out at most if the family don't get someone experienced to take it on. Great interview.
― Noel Emits, Friday, 5 November 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_34Jq5pTDSU
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 5 November 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
Just got round to this now, good interview. Doubt we will learn anything new from the remasters though, but nice to get some info on what that kind of scene might be like.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 November 2021 23:08 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrQL7K-BdOU
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link
fantastic
― nxd, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
oh wow - https://pitchfork.com/news/les-rallizes-denudes-officially-release-white-awakening-listen/
― StanM, Tuesday, 14 December 2021 18:06 (two years ago) link
Well this'll keep ya going
https://lightintheattic.net/releases/8593-the-oz-tapes
Operating out of a small upstairs space just around the corner from the train station in the Kichijoji neighborhood of Tokyo, OZ was a scruffy, DIY affair that lasted not much more than a year. Between June 1972 to September 1973, the cafe and performance space became the nerve center for the city’s burgeoning underground and counterculture set.Hadaka No Rallizes, aka Les Rallizes Dénudés, the psychedelic noisemakers originally from Kyoto, was one of the marquee names at OZ. Led by the enigmatic Takashi Mizutani, the now-legendary band was one of the earliest bookings for the venue, and would ultimately close out OZ Last Days, a raucous five-day blowout to celebrate the short but wonderful world of OZ. To commemorate the occasion, recordings made at OZ were released as OZ DAYS LIVE, a private press 2LP set featuring Miyako Ochi, Acid Seven, Masato Minami, Taj Mahal Travellers, and four tracks by the Rallizes—which constituted just a fraction of what had been recorded at the time. For nearly 50 years, these songs remained the only official appearance of the Rallizes on vinyl LP—until now.With The OZ Tapes, we are finally able to hear the missing pieces. Stored on reels of Scotch analog recording tape, these recordings had laid dormant in storage for almost half a century. The previously unheard material reveals the Rallizes at some of their most unhinged and experimental, as well as moments of delicate tenderness—the two sides of Mizutani that would come to define his band’s legacy. Taken as a whole, The OZ Tapes help to demystify the band’s murky history, yet this vibrant and seemingly relatively innocent era only hints at the explosive, uncharted worlds into which Mizutani would lead the band.
Hadaka No Rallizes, aka Les Rallizes Dénudés, the psychedelic noisemakers originally from Kyoto, was one of the marquee names at OZ. Led by the enigmatic Takashi Mizutani, the now-legendary band was one of the earliest bookings for the venue, and would ultimately close out OZ Last Days, a raucous five-day blowout to celebrate the short but wonderful world of OZ. To commemorate the occasion, recordings made at OZ were released as OZ DAYS LIVE, a private press 2LP set featuring Miyako Ochi, Acid Seven, Masato Minami, Taj Mahal Travellers, and four tracks by the Rallizes—which constituted just a fraction of what had been recorded at the time. For nearly 50 years, these songs remained the only official appearance of the Rallizes on vinyl LP—until now.
With The OZ Tapes, we are finally able to hear the missing pieces. Stored on reels of Scotch analog recording tape, these recordings had laid dormant in storage for almost half a century. The previously unheard material reveals the Rallizes at some of their most unhinged and experimental, as well as moments of delicate tenderness—the two sides of Mizutani that would come to define his band’s legacy. Taken as a whole, The OZ Tapes help to demystify the band’s murky history, yet this vibrant and seemingly relatively innocent era only hints at the explosive, uncharted worlds into which Mizutani would lead the band.
Vinyl only (so far at least), due in November.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 April 2022 21:08 (two years ago) link
so psyched for this. november so far away though...
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 00:09 (two years ago) link
Ah, very happily there is a full digital edition of this also coming via https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link
Also per John Whitson of Holy Mountain: "There’s also going to be a 3CD with the other groups on the original Oz Days comp plus extra LRD some time next year."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 22:32 (two years ago) link
gahhhhhh so cool
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 22:34 (two years ago) link
Annnnd that digital release of their OZ Tapes material is now live.
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/the-oz-tapes
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link
brb hittin the bong and pressing play
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link
Thanks for the reminder!
― StanM, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link
Nice! Still excited for the 3xCD thing too.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link
so stoked for this
― thinkmanship (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
it sounds so CLEAR
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link
i'm so happy. dream come true
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link
really sounds good. what a cool band!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
BTW looks like there was a listening party-only release just now, as in a party for this release:
https://www.discogs.com/release/22958801-%E8%A3%B8%E3%81%AE%E3%83%A9%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-Les-Rallizes-D%C3%A9nud%C3%A9s
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:09 (one year ago) link
That was vague: a party for the OZ Tapes release, but now there's this something else out there:
A1 A Shadow On Our Joy = 僕らの喜びに影がさした (Ver.2) 6:44B1 Wilderness Of False Flowers = 造花の原野 (Ver.2) 18:30
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
Only 100 copies pressed, sold exclusively at the "Fall and Rise of Les Rallizes Dénudés Vol.2" event.
And it was on Temporal Drift so it's legit, whatever it is.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link
I really do want to hear this alternate "Wilderness of False Flowers" because it's over twice as long as the version on the new album!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link
both those tracks will be (are?) on the 3CD (2.2 and 2.3)
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/les-rallizes-denudes-masato-minami-miyako-ochi-acid-seven/oz-days-live-%E2%80%9972%E2%80%93%E2%80%9973-kichijoji-50%E1%B5%97%CA%B0-anniversary-collection/
― StanM, Thursday, 28 April 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link
but that Wilderness Of False Flowers is indeed 3 minutes shorter than on the vinyl EP/single - weird
https://www.lesrallizesdenudes-official.com/en/information/2022-04-06_841/
― StanM, Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:01 (one year ago) link
New feature/interview up at Bandcamp
https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/les-rallizes-denudes-the-oz-tapes-feature
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
nice to see that
― nxd, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
And Light in the Attic has the Oz Days 3xCD up for pre-order, out in October. Looks like a great package:
https://lightintheattic.net/releases/8890-oz-days-live-72-73-kichijoji-the-50th-anniversary-collection
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/les-rallizes-d-nud-s
the 12"" single with the two tracks that will be on the 3CD now available digitally
― StanM, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link
the mail said this but I don't see that anywhere (or they're gone already) - "Available now—Bandcamp Friday 9/2/22—we have the remaining 150 copies of the 12" for sale. One copy per person/order. $20 + Shipping. Thank you for supporting Temporal Drift and Les Rallizes Dénudés here on Bandcamp.” "
― StanM, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
150 copies? Glad to see they are honoring the tradition of making LRD product impossible to procure
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link
that long slow version of Wilderness Of False Flowers is pretty great
― StanM, Sunday, 4 September 2022 07:09 (one year ago) link
saw this posted elsewhere, from the Temporal Drift Facebook page:
"We can now officially share the news that Temporal Drift will be reissuing "67-'69 Studio Et Live," "MIZUTANI / Les Rallizes Dénudés," and "'77 Live" by Les Rallizes Dénudés. Originally released on CD by Rivista Inc. in 1991, these are the only official albums released during the band's lifetime, other than 1973's OZ DAYS LIVE.Pre-orders for the CD and LP will begin on 9/28. Our reissues will be available throughout the world, other than Japan and Asia.We can also share that there will be a new 12" single made up of bonus tracks from the CDs.More details soon..."
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 September 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link
Reminds me, you can get the Oz Days digitally here:
https://temporaldrift.bandcamp.com/album/oz-days-live-72-73-kichijoji-the-50th-anniversary-collection
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 September 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link
77 Live is a fucking amazing record; I have a really good bootleg version with the title in French, but I will absolutely buy this new version if they've done anything noticeable about cleaning it up. Maybe the others, too.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 12 September 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link
I feel like they would have said remaster or remix if they did a lot of work on them, reissue feels like... not? Not 100% sure though
― StanM, Monday, 12 September 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link
I've emailed the label to ask. If I get an answer I'll post it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 12 September 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link
We know you've been waiting for the OZ DAYS LIVE Book+3CD set, and we promise it's coming very soon, after a short manufacturing delay! In the meantime, we are very excited to share that the album is now available to stream everywhere. Find it on your preferred platform here: temporaldrift.ffm.to/ozdaysliveDigital downloads are also available from our Bandcamp. Featuring the complete recordings of Les Rallizes Dénudés at OZ, this release features essential and many previously unheard performances by Masato Minami, Miyako Ochi, and Acid Seven.temporaldrift.bandcamp.com/album/oz-days-live-72-73-kichijoji-the-50th-anniversary-collection
― StanM, Saturday, 24 September 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link
Oh darn, more reissues are live, oh no
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/mizutani-les-rallizes-d-nud-s
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/67-69-studio-et-live
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/77-live
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 September 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
oh no! :-)
― StanM, Friday, 30 September 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
All three have this: "features newly remastered audio by former Rallizes member Makoto Kubota"
― StanM, Friday, 30 September 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
OK, can an expert here tell me which one of these I should buy if I prefer dreamy, 3rd Velvets album Denudes to explosive 45 minutes of amp destruction Denudes?
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
lol not Live 77
― sleeve, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:09 (one year ago) link
I'd have to refresh my memory on the other two
― sleeve, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
Yeah, Live 77 is the tear-your-face-off one. Mizutani is actually mostly acoustic(!), so that's probably what you're looking for. And 67-69 live obviously is gonna be more Sixties-sounding, too.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 30 September 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
Thanks! I have CD copies of Mars Studio, Heaver Than A Death In the Family, and Blind Baby, but I seem to recall an LP (boot obviously) that was super jangley and droney and I loved it, but no idea what it was called
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 30 September 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link
How much overlap is there between 77 Live and Heavier Than A Death In the Family?
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Saturday, 1 October 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link
5 of the 6 Heavier tracks are on 77 Live, where they also sound better + 77 Live has The Last One and 記憶は遠い ("Memory is Distant")The only Heavier-exclusive track is "People Can Choose" (which is actually Field Of Artificial Flowers and a 1973 recording)
in short: 77 Live > Heavier
― StanM, Saturday, 1 October 2022 07:50 (one year ago) link
Goddammit.
Don’t throw those Les Rallizes Dénudés bootlegs away just yet! Original 1991 CD of “'77 Live”—an incredibly loud disc for its era—vs. the maximized/destroyed 2022 reissue: pic.twitter.com/qCarIw6vRW— Andy Zax (@andyzax) October 14, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 October 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
That sucks to see, but as someone who doesn’t have the 1991 CD, I’ll deal. It’s not like I turn to LRD for a fine sounding audiophile experience anyway….
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 October 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link
I thought the production trick with all that PSF/High Rise/Keiji Haino stuff that came up in the wake of Rallizes was to wallop everything into the red anyway, all the better to conceal the fact it was probably recorded on a malfunctioning reel-to-reel.
― pick the mouse that can reach all the cheese in the maze (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link
yeah but "into the red" is different in the analog realm vs the digital realm
― sleeve, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link
and too much ruins it either way
― sleeve, Saturday, 15 October 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/03/arts/music/les-rallizes-denudes.html
Acid Seven, a bandleader and prankster who was a regular at Oz, recalled Mizutani interrupting his stoic silence at jam sessions only to utter existentialist riddles. He described Mizutani once taking a drag from his ever-present cigarette and proclaiming, “The smoke coming out of my mouth is extinguishing my ego,” with no further explanation offered.
By being totally uncompromising about the band’s sound, Mizutani effectively exiled himself from the Japanese music industry. Shime Takahashi, who played drums with the Rallizes in the mid-70s, recalled the band once working in a professional studio, only to find that the engineer never pressed record because he thought it was still rehearsing. Mizutani had been playing with the Rallizes for more than 20 years before releasing its three albums in 1991 — two sets of early recordings, and another double-CD live set of the band at its noisiest.
In a series of interviews this summer, Kubota said he had been working for months to sort through Mizutani’s collection, including numerous studio and live recordings.
“Now I have received the material for four full concerts and started working on it,” Kubota said. “It will be monstrous.”
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 October 2022 06:53 (one year ago) link
Has anyone seen any news on the reissues? Pitchfork said the CDs would issue on 25 November, but the official website doesn't seem to have that info (it doesn't seem to be a well organised site).
The graphs above are not encouraging...
― Duke, Monday, 14 November 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link
Bandcamp also says they will be shipping on or around 11/25, so fingers crossed.
Still waiting for my OZ Days Live to ship as well (looks like that was updated to 11/18).
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
digital releases out on Nov 29th, physical will be shipped in Jan/Feb 2023, I see on Bandcamp.
― StanM, Friday, 25 November 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link
^ the three ex-bootlegs, that is
― StanM, Friday, 25 November 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link
They're out - and 77 Live is brickwall central indeed. But so was the bootleg, to be fair.
The other two aren't as bad (first track on 67-69 studio & live is over the top too but the rest is better)
― StanM, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
My old copy of ‘77 Live sounds much better than this reissue. (Downloaded WAVs from Bandcamp.) Keeping the earlier version for sure.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link
same :-(
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 10:24 (one year ago) link
Eh, I have been looking for a reasonably priced copy of '77 Live for years (certainly not paying the $130 they are currently going for), so I'll just have to deal with one that is slightly inferior.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
This is the one to get. Nice packaging, really good sound.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link
Definitely more affordable! Saw that one at one point, but wasn't sure if it was the same material.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
FYI - if you were like me and ordered any of the new CDs from Temporal Drift, the bandcamp page now says they won't be shipped until January 26, 2023
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
Looks like we got another bonus release:
https://www.discogs.com/release/25401199-Les-Rallizes-D%C3%A9nud%C3%A9s-Romance-Of-The-Black-Pain-Otherwise-Fallin-Love-With
Bonus 12" of material from that couldn't be included on the '67-'69 Studio Et Live and Mizutani / Les Rallizes Dénudés LP reissues.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 December 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link
my vinyl copy of OZ Days finally arrived. sounds fantastic.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link
Mine arrived a week or two ago - been on a lot & yes it sounds great
― woof, Thursday, 22 December 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link
Trying again on the right thread this time...
Has anyone else that pre-ordered any of the three LRD CDs from Temporal Drift received a shipping notification or anything? Supposedly these were to be shipped out a couple weeks ago, but I haven't heard or seen anything.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link
Was gonna ask — I've heard nothing.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
Just emailed the label; will post whatever response I get.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Thanks
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link
I ordered the 3LP of 77 Live and it says it's shipping tomorrow so we shall see.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
Exciting news—The CD and LP releases of Les Rallizes Dénudés' '67-'69 STUDIO et LIVE, MIZUTANI / Les Rallizes Dénudés, and '77 LIVE are in production and nearly finished. CD-only orders should ship by mid-Feb. Orders w/ LP+CD should begin shipping by late Feb.— Temporal Drift (@Temporal_Drift) February 1, 2023
― tufte, Thursday, 9 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
Fwiw, just thought to check Temporal Drift's Instagram and they posted 2 days ago that "CD-only orders are shipping now", so hopefully soon.
ha - good timing
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
I received my CD of Mizutani yesterday with no prior shipping notice.
― bryan, Thursday, 9 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
FYI, I got an email back from the label:
"We are in the process of packing and shipping hundreds of orders right now. Yours will ship on Friday. Tracking will be live once USPS scans the package."
There was a tracking number included. So I expect it'll arrive next week.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 February 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
The 3LP oclear vinyl pressing of '77 Live is sold out at the Temporal Drift bandcamp but there still appear to be copies of a red & black vinyl pressing available on Light in the Attic.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 13 February 2023 09:19 (one year ago) link
Hmm, and yet another pressing on red & black "splatter vinyl" available on Third Man Records. This is getting silly.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 13 February 2023 09:24 (one year ago) link
Yeah, finally got a shipping notice early this morning.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 February 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
Me too.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 13 February 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link
So far Mizutani has been the real revelation for me, I'd never heard that one before and all the other bootlegs I'd had were focused on the blown-out guitar cacophony.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link
Those vinyl only extra tracks from recent reissues getting the digital release today
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/romance-of-the-black-pain-otherwise-fallin-love
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 April 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
The version of "The Last One" on Mizutani reminded me of Dadamah, which is some of the highest praise I can offer. The acoustic tracks on the first side are shockingly delicate.
― InternationalWaters, Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link
Les Rallizes Dénudés just announced CITTA' '93, check it out here: https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/citta-93
“We are honored and thrilled to share with you the first-ever release of CITTA’ ‘93 by Les Rallizes Dénudés, the first entirely new album to be released as part of the archival and reissue campaign launched in 2021 in collaboration with The Last One Musique. Containing in its entirety a recording of the band’s legendary 1993 performance at Club Citta in Kawasaki, Japan, CITTA’ ‘93 is a tour de force for this seldom-heard era of the Rallizes, destined to be a future classic alongside their definitive showcase ’77 LIVE.
Pre-orders are now live on our Bandcamp, where a limited edition 3LP Silver Vinyl edition is available, along with 3LP Black Vinyl and 2CD sets. Every vinyl order will be bundled with a newsprint poster featuring an iconic photo of Takashi Mizutani by Takehiko Nakafuji, while supplies last.”
― StanM, Friday, 26 May 2023 16:22 (ten months ago) link
= CD1 and 2 of this 13cd bootleg box from 2011
― StanM, Friday, 26 May 2023 16:27 (ten months ago) link
OK, I admit I kinda want to hear a 39-minute version of "The Last One."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 26 May 2023 16:50 (ten months ago) link
Ordered the silver vinyl, thanks for the heads up!
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Friday, 26 May 2023 17:30 (ten months ago) link
Swear I still have a burnt CD of that '93 from my days on slsk. It's fantastic if that's the same one and it's available.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 26 May 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link
xpost: my pleasure! I hope this one isn't brickwalled like the others.
― StanM, Friday, 26 May 2023 19:34 (ten months ago) link
This Citta 93 set is fantastic. I don't have the 13CD bootleg mentioned by StanM above so it was all new to me. The version of The Last One is epic.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 07:21 (seven months ago) link
So apparently BAUS '93 is coming - this is where CITTA '93 showed up for Japan only before Temporal Drift picked it up for the rest of the world. Rumors are pre-orders coming in November for early 2024 release:
https://www.lesrallizesdenudes-official.com/en/information/2023-09-27_1510/
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:04 (six months ago) link
oh nice, with a DVD as well - thanks for the news! :-)
― StanM, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:44 (six months ago) link
Google Translate calls this band the Naked Rally's :-)
I'm guessing it's not going to be a live video recording of the show from beginning to end, if they describe it like this: "The first production edition of the CD also comes with a DVD containing a video work created by Akira Uji, who used to be in charge of visual production for Rally's, using videos taken of the stage performance that day."
― StanM, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:51 (six months ago) link
Yeah, working my way through Citta '93 right now, absolutely incredible. Great quality.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:07 (six months ago) link
The recording quality is pretty amazing, but...I really like the ultra-blown-out, Mainliner/High Rise-ish sound of '77 Live, and other Rallizes stuff, both earlier and later, that's more conventionally "psychedelic" doesn't really do it for me in the way their skull-squashing sonic attack material does.
― read-only (unperson), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:25 (six months ago) link
Yeah I can totally get that, this is definitely "cleaner" sounding as compared to '77 Live and older boots. But I kind of like hearing it all a little more clearly and I think this epic "The Last One" still bulldozes my brain and ears.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 17:26 (six months ago) link
Just got the notification from Temporal Drift that my Citta '93 vinyl has shipped.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 12 October 2023 06:43 (six months ago) link
and BAUS '93 up for pre-order from Temporal Drift (vinyl or CD/DVD):
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/baus-93
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:48 (five months ago) link
Citta '93 is pure destruction in sound.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 November 2023 10:25 (five months ago) link
I hope they can improve the sound on the Baus bootleg because it's a pretty stellar show as well
― StanM, Friday, 10 November 2023 11:31 (five months ago) link
i'm really curious to check out the "mizutani" record; delicate acoustic psych from LRD sounds intriguing
― budo jeru, Saturday, 11 November 2023 03:28 (five months ago) link
Thanks for the heads up, pre-ordered the vinyl. Would have been annoyed if it had been sold out as I never got an email from them announcing this despite being on their mailing list.
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Sunday, 12 November 2023 14:14 (five months ago) link
same
― StanM, Sunday, 12 November 2023 17:49 (five months ago) link
leaked. the sound is miles better than the bootleg, this is Citta level of audio quality, I'd say.
― StanM, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 16:46 (five months ago) link
Good to hear!
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 17:20 (five months ago) link
darkness fucking returns!!!!!!
― ivy., Friday, 24 November 2023 23:12 (four months ago) link
New photo/lyric book just announced. Very expensive, but I couldn't resist:
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/merch/the-last-one-po-sies-les-rallizes-d-nud-s-book-cd
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Monday, 5 February 2024 18:43 (two months ago) link
Temporal Drift has put a few copies of the Romance of the Black Pain otherwise Fallin' Love 12" that sold out immediately when it was put up before up on Bandcamp:
https://lesrallizesdenudes.bandcamp.com/album/romance-of-the-black-pain-otherwise-fallin-love?
― bulb after bulb, Friday, 1 March 2024 13:04 (one month ago) link