[P4K Reviews] The Pains of Being Pure at Heart

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I was interested to see this one, as sort of a barometer of the site's boundaries these days. The closing sentiment is unbelievable:

"The Pains of Being Pure at Heart simply made a slyly confident debut that mixes sparkling melodies with an undercurrent of sad bastard mopery, and you're just being a dick if you think the past has some kind of patent on that."

Scott, so, Pitchfork is in the business of bullying people into liking bands? "You're a dick if you discount this"? Fierce theory.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link

name sounds like they're a regular emo band. but a friend told me they're sort of shoegaze.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 6 February 2009 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Quite literally unbelievable! Holy fuck! Certainly worth a thread of it's own and an official statement from some guy from Pitchfork.

Ozman Bin Laden (Raw Patrick), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe you think this is a matter for sarcasm, but my livelihood somehow revolves around the idea of the past having some kind of patent on slyly confident debuts that mix sparkling melodies with an undercurrent of sad bastard mopery so maybe, 'Ozman', you should try looking further than your own front door

Peter Andre Test Tube Babies (DJ Mencap), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I like this record, especially "This Love is Fucking Right" – reminds me of Ride.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont understand this thread

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

can someone explain it to me?

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

this bands soudns like endless bands before (and probably after) it.
gimmme something new for a change!

Zeno, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost But then we'd have to kill you with our big fat dick

Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't get the thread either, but anyone who writes in a review 'you're just being a dick' should be banned from ever publishing anything anywhere ever.

The band is OK, easily one of the catchier current indiepop acts (bizarrely I have seen them live twice), though they're thus somewhat overrated on the scene, and their material is quite samey; if you like that thing they do then maybe you want to hear it over and over.

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I have no issue with the band profiteering off anorak/C86 iconography, but Pitchfork seems to be getting a little too close to participating in bands' marketing campaigns at this point. Started with A Place to Bury Strangers.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The band don't sound anything like actual C86, 1980s indie or whatever, though yes they are revered on a scene that is very in thrall to an idea of that.

Like I said, the review you quoted is disgusting.

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

lolol @ 'profiteering'

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Peter Andre Test Tube Babies (DJ Mencap), Friday, 6 February 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

You can profit in ways other than "obtaining money", Peter - reputation, fame - though the endgame would be to make some, which is, as you suggest, a comical notion today.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Ott puppet?

Ozman Bin Laden (Raw Patrick), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

chris ott and the pinefox, taking on pitchfork one innocuous hyperbolic phrase at a time

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Nothing simulates a student club night circa 1985 quite like ILM.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

cant believe were even having this discussion given the michael phelps tragedy

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

this band are boring and so is this thread

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

to be non trolly for a moment, "and you're just being a dick if you think the past has some kind of patent on that." is kind of fair enough a sentiment, were it to be worded in a considerably less douchey way

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

jim u shd lock the thread

max, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anyone go to pitchfork looking for music reviews? No. People go there to find out what music is "in," and by that measure this review is very informative.

But, to be fair to pitchfork, aren't they being sarcastic with that last line? That's how i would have interpreted it. They're music critics. If anyone thinks past music is relevant to current music, it's them.

Disease_Blossom, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

having said that, the attention bands like this (and vivian girls, and cause comotion) get over the vastly superior bands they mimic is kinda ridiculous. for what seems like the fifteenth time, anyone who digs the vivian girls and have not heard black tambourine is either seriously cheating themselves out of something great or is some sort of sexual predator. in the case of TPOBPAH read any number of 90s shoegaze in place of b.t.

haha xxpost

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone who digs the vivian girls and have not heard black tambourine is either seriously cheating themselves out of something great or is some sort of sexual predator.

Speaking of douchey statements...

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

well okay i'm not going to say that wasn't a little excessively stated but still

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i have no problem with these bands existing and in all fairness they have appealing qualities but one would be led to believe that music like this is truly new and exciting and let's be frank, in this genre that is pretty difficult and none of these bands come close

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

anyway i forget what my point is but there is lots of good noisy indiepop out there and much as i love slumberland records they seem to have taken on the mantle of a hip label and while it's great to see a payoff for their years of underappreciated hard work bands like crystal stilts and pains of being pure at heart are lame as hell next to the swirlies and lilys 45s they put out and just because these bands are among the few keepers of the flame these days doesn't justify this level of hype

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

On the tired "it's a rehash, BURN!" argument I would say Pitchfork has been fair in both responding to and promoting this stuff as tributary, and submitting to the fact that...that's sort of where we're at right now. "Originality" is becoming such an academic exercise, more a fool's game than METAL/NOT METAL ever was.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

lol threads like this make me sympathize w/jho's position on ILM.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm listening to this record for the first time now. first track sounds all too obviously like 'just like honey'. i'm hoping for more variety of mood as the record plays out

Charlie Howard, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm probably just ranting after seeing amazing records from last year ignored like amazing records from every other year and very much not amazing stuff is always getting attention and god knows why i even care

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

four tracks in and it's samey as fuck, and really bright sounding.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks like the real thing/feels like the first time!

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

'stay alive' is easily the nicest sounding track so far. this one will be worth playing a few times.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Vivian Girls don't sound much like Black Tambourine

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

it's OK to listen to different bands who sound similar; you don't have to restrict yourself to one

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

it's OK to listen to earlier, influential bands, or later, influenced bands, or both, or neither, whatever

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

im OK, you're OK

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

it's OK to not listen to bands

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

No, it's totally inappropriate.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

At risk of turning this thread into this thread, any other indiepop recommendations 2009? The Besties? Sexy Kids? Swedish stuff?

the who cares (okamax), Friday, 6 February 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

electricsound, I'm just curious what some of the records you liked from last year got totally ignored? I'm not trolling, I promise! I don't post that much, but from what I read we have kind of similar tastes in terms of indie pop.

jonathan - stl, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't make it more than a few sentences into the Pfork review, just clicked over to Myspace and the songs are fun, a bit catchy, a bit noisy, very reminiscent of pre-Isn't Anything MBV, Pale Saints, Ride, a bit of Mary Chain and all their collective influences as well. Not original, not bad either!

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong with this band, at all. But from one perspective, they are the infamous She Wants Revenge with a different record collection.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, read the Psychic Ills album review. Not that that album is great or anything, but the review is basically "WTF YOU MEAN THERE ISN'T A MELODY?!" over and over again.

jonathan - stl, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

in before lock

jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

whocares: Je Suis Animal !

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The Tartans seem OK

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The Ballet, maybe

the pinefox, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Why would this thread need to be locked.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

rock critic in being less than serious journalism is serious shocker lols

for indie-poppers, i kinda like these guys

double bird strike (gabbneb), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I suppose it is serious shocker lols in that one extremely unrelated way.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

learn more ilx memes

double bird strike (gabbneb), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks, I prefer the thin thread of coherence that runs through them.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, it's a horrible review. inclines me to hate the band, though ian cohen is by no means their fault. "That these second-wavers are getting first-rate attention shouldn't be a worry unless you're into dick-measuring contests about the late-1980s (but I was there) or still holding a grudge against Vivian Girls and Crystal Stilts." no, fuck you.

pitchfork is good for fridays, i guess.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

It seems this is a two-dick review.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I would expect nothing less from Ian 'Throb' Cohen.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

remind me again why you started this thread?

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Thread was started in part because someone likes to pretend to not know how to read:

you're just being a dick if you think the past has some kind of patent on that

is not very well paraphrased as

You're a dick if you discount this

nabisco, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

(Although to be fair, this is not a band I would risk taking even a mildly defensive reviewing tone about, or really using the word "dick" -- they're just not that kind of band.)

nabisco, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah to be fair it does seem like half of the review is spent preemptively defending the best new music tag. on the other hand it is a review that basically describes the record and what it sounds like, which is something i can get behind.

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

By the way, I like this band pretty well! What took me a while to wrap my head around -- and what might take the band themselves some adjusting to -- is the idea that music like this would get attention from and seem significant to people outside the indiepop scene. (Which seems to say something, but I'm not sure exactly what yet.)

nabisco, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i just have defensive grapes because i super AM into dick-meauring contests about the late 80s

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Right...if you say so Nibs.

cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i just have defensive grapes because i super AM into dick-meauring contests about the late 80s

Hmm.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 February 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm is the new ...

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

on first listen this reminded me of ecstasy and wine-era MBV (not a diss in the least)

charles bronson reilly (donna rouge), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

actually i don't know why i felt the need to qualify that as not-a-diss. this is very good tho

charles bronson reilly (donna rouge), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

electricsound, I'm just curious what some of the records you liked from last year got totally ignored? I'm not trolling, I promise! I don't post that much, but from what I read we have kind of similar tastes in terms of indie pop.

― jonathan - stl, Saturday, February 7, 2009 3:08 AM (8 hours ago)

well, #1 would be the for against album. and though i came to it late, the charmparticles album also seemed to get quite a bit less interest than a record so completely wonderful should deserve

carbonara not glue (electricsound), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't believe these guys are worth all the gnashing of teeth. They're pleasant enough and kind of boring; Pitchfork is Pitchfork. News at 11?

Millsner, Saturday, 7 February 2009 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I could dance to this.

the who cares (okamax), Saturday, 7 February 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it, but I'd be more excited by it if half of my record collection didn't consist of bands that pretty much sound exactly like this.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Saturday, 7 February 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

so wait this band is not from the UK?

call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 February 2009 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

this is a very boring clusterfuck thread, try harder

LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Saturday, 7 February 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it, but I'd be more excited by it if half of my record collection didn't consist of bands that pretty much sound exactly like this.

Oh my god you could not be more OTM.

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Playing the tiny Black Cat Backstage room in DC Monday night. Can't decide whether they're worth a late worknight. Maybe the old DC Slumberland scene will be out in force.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I skipped the show. A late start and I saw many of their influences years ago.

Check out the last question to them in this interview

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/blackplasticbag/2009/02/09/qa-the-pains-of-being-pure-at-heart/

WCP: Do you ever feel like you’re maybe a little too much like older Slumberland bands? Do you feel like your bring your own voice to that music?

Berman: I do, because it’s my voice on the record. It’s us playing it in 2009. We’re not too hero worshipful. We’re respectful of all the tradition, but the lyrics are really personal and really distinct and about our lives and our experiences in our world right now. We’re never in danger of slipping into time capsule mode. We feel very alive at the moment, we don’t necessarily want to live in a different time or place at all.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

hey guys if it's OK with you I'm going to totally hate this band sight unseen for their name having the phrase "pure AT heart" in it instead of "pure OF heart." even if they did it on purpose to be 'funny' or something.

some dude, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link

hey guys if it's OK with you I'm going to totally hate this band sight unseen for their name having the phrase "pure AT heart" in it instead of "pure OF heart." even if they did it on purpose to be 'funny' or something.

― some dude, Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:45 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

Then you'd be missing out on a fucking awesome band for a stupid reason.

Mahatma Blagojevich (redmond), Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

now that i'm not drunk and in a good mood i can concede that i do like quite a few of this band's tracks, particularly 'come saturday', but

maybe a little too much like older Slumberland bands

i WISH. if they can come up with a track that touches the likes of 'february fourteenth', even if it is utterly derivative, then i will love them unreservedly

and

fucking awesome band

possibly a bit of a stretch

electrodribble sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i havent read this whole thing so idk if it's a joeky thread or not but 'the tenure itch' is a really nice song and reminds me of the stone roses. the rest isnt bad, a little samey but it's just their first album

Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

speaking of the stone roses and derivative bands that aren't a slouch in the songs department, have a listen to The Ruling Class (particularly 'umbrella folds')

electrodribble sound of jim (electricsound), Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

fucking awesome band

possibly a bit of a stretch

― electrodribble sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, February 13, 2009 8:46 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

Says who? I count half the album as potential singles.

Mahatma Blagojevich (redmond), Saturday, 14 February 2009 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

hey guys if it's OK with you I'm going to totally hate this band sight unseen for their name having the phrase "pure AT heart" in it instead of "pure OF heart." even if they did it on purpose to be 'funny' or something.
― some dude, Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:45 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

Then you'd be missing out on a fucking awesome band for a stupid reason.

― Mahatma Blagojevich (redmond), Friday, February 13, 2009 9:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's not like i was going to listen to them even if they didn't have an annoying name.

some dude, Saturday, 14 February 2009 05:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ calling this band "fucking awesome"

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link

these guys remind of the primitives -- not that they sound like them, but it's this sense of lots of elements of past things i like or love taken in a very deliberate prefab way and welded together so the seams barely show. i can't not like it, it's genetically engineered to please me. but i'm conscious of the engineering, and listening to it makes me feel a little indulgent.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 February 2009 06:59 (fifteen years ago) link

They did a 30 minute gig the other night-Malitz from the Washington Post loved it-

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postrock/2009/02/the_pains_of_being_pure_at_hea.html

curmudgeon, Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

actually agree with Paper Plans in a way - they do seem built to please us by the most direct route possible.

the pinefox, Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

(never really thought of Primitives that way though!)

the pinefox, Saturday, 14 February 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

well my reaction the first time i heard "crash" was "oh, debbie harry singing with the ramones -- of course i love it." pains of being etc. give me a similar well-duh vibe. which means i'm sort of skeptical now, but at some point i'll give in and spend a week listening to nothing but.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 February 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

If you don't like the simple pleasures of a great pop song, then you should just go back to listening to your hard bop jazz and stfu.

Mahatma Blagojevich (redmond), Saturday, 14 February 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

YOU TELL 'EM

Matos W.K., Saturday, 14 February 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

mmmbop vs. hard bop

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 14 February 2009 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

redmond pls tell me more about the simple pleasures of a great pop song, i may not have experienced this

devin harris with an appletini (call all destroyer), Saturday, 14 February 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I suppose it is serious shocker lols in that one extremely unrelated way.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, February 6, 2009 8:42 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

learn more ilx memes

― double bird strike (gabbneb), Friday, February 6, 2009 8:44 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

these two need to team up

h.o.u.s.e. (Matt P), Saturday, 14 February 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so anyway i got hold of this record and it's more disappointing than i expected

much like the asobi seksu record, the production is limp and fluffy and missing what made the best moments of their EP worthwhile

somewhat ironically it actually sounds less derivative to me this way, but less appealing

the lucksmithtacular punny titles amuse me a little though

w/ sax (electricsound), Thursday, 5 March 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i had the opposite reaction, i found the singles disappointing after the hype and yet i rather like the album. it's basic and they don't do anything new but it is still enjoyable and i appreciate the fact that they keep the songs mostly pretty short. downloading the new camera obscura now.

keythkeythkeyth, Friday, 6 March 2009 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link

it's not like i was going to listen to them even if they didn't have an annoying name.

― some dude, Friday, February 13, 2009 11:22 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Not MTV2 enough for you?

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 6 March 2009 05:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know how i feel about new sassy jaymc

u sic fuc (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 05:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Haha. Seriously, though, I've often wondered how Sonic Youth and the Geraldine Fibbers managed to escape your indifference toward music beyond the Billboard charts. (I know, that's super-reductive, so feel free to correct me.)

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 6 March 2009 05:45 (fifteen years ago) link

and the boredoms

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I hear a lot of tiny indie bands via going to shows or following the musicians I already like and connecting dots, and I hear a lot of mainstream stuff I like (or don't like) through radio and TV. That pretty much keeps my plate full enough that I have no time or inclination to check out Pitchfork hype bands unless I wanna troll threads about one with a name I hate. I could explain my distaste for 'big' indie bands in this decade compared to big indie bands of the '90s but that's a whole other can of worms.

u sic fuc (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 05:50 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This hasn't disappointed at all so far. Just what you'd expect but they do it well. It's almost too good to be true, the way they hit on such a simple + obvious thing that no-one else was quite doing. You could drop most of the songs into an indiepop disco or other event and just drive all the kids crazy like throwing fish food into a tank.

All the wishful thinking about c86 revivals, Black Tambourine influence etc seems quite a red herring re. this LP: sure the band refer to and like those things, but on this record they more often remind me of New Order.

the pinefox, Monday, 30 March 2009 09:38 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

All the wishful thinking about c86 revivals, Black Tambourine influence etc seems quite a red herring re. this LP: sure the band refer to and like those things, but on this record they more often remind me of New Order.

I was thinking of seeing these guys when they come to town, but only because I thought they would sound like Black Tambourine. So no one thinks they have a resemblance? I haven't heard the album.

Jesus X, the Arthropod Barrista (res), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

There is a clear and obvious resemblance, yes. Influence? Dunno.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I just got this. It sounds like the Field Mice to me, with a little of the fuzz from Black Tam thrown in .

Jesus X, the Arthropod Barrista (res), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

The last track has a Jesus and Mary Chain thing going on. I'm betting their next album is going to be amazing.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

They remind me of Madison Electric, too, if anybody remembers them.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Honestly I think a lot of how they've appealed to a wider audience involves just rolling up a bunch of indie-pop styles and aesthetics into one simple, core thing that's not specialized or difficult -- it "sounds like" anything or everything in a whole big constellation of fuzzy/noisy/pop-romantic indiepop and packages the general idea pretty effectively, both for people who already dig it and for people who can go for the general vibe but don't normally dig into it.

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ I suppose this is a fairly obvious statement about a lot of bands who wind up appealing a bit beyond their sound/influences -- they roll together where they're coming from into a single, simple, and fairly accessible package

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"young adult friction" should win some "excellence in twee song titling" award or something

i wasn't trolling, just being boombastic! (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm listening on Rhapsody, and it seems nice with solid songs and better production than the material it copies...would fit in on a Sunday Records compilation except you'd notice because the sound is better. I'm surprised if it's getting any major attention, but I don't hang out with young people anymore so have no idea.

I think I have a shoebox filled with about two hundred 7" singles that sound more or less like this: no better and no worse.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

You're all doing a great job of putting this band in their place. And too right. I mean, how dare they.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

umm you realize you're responding to one person who said they were good, one person who said they had a nice song title, and one person who said they sound about as good as other stuff, right?

nabisco, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

You don't fool me!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Judith Boyle?

the sideburns are album-specific (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

this has the right sound, the right aesthetics, and probably all the right influences, but i can't quite get into the songs. i think i'd have to be a college sophomore with lots of personal problems (again) to have it resonate with me. will give it more time, i suppose.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Thursday, 2 July 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

went to college with the lead singer. apparently he broke a bunch of my friend's dishware in a fit of pre-rockstar fury some years ago

uptown churl, Thursday, 2 July 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Still finding this pretty pleasant, and it suddenly occurs to me that I really want them to cover every single song that Crash ever recorded.

dlp9001, Thursday, 2 July 2009 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

apparently he broke a bunch of my friend's dishware in a fit of pre-rockstar fury some years ago

i'm sure this is on ebay somewhere

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Thursday, 2 July 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

it seems like a lot of their songs are based on the field mice's 'sensitive'.
oooo, the jj album has leaked. anyways, the pains of being pure at heart live performance on carson daly was really dull and yet they are likable, pleasant even(as said above) but I can't imagine them doing anything memorable. the vocals are too low in the mix for them to appeal to sensitive types and the music is too one speed to show any real depth, perhaps a good producer could help them out.

keythkeythkeyth, Friday, 3 July 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i somehow can't imagine a second album. they seem like the kind of band that would make one amazing album and then flame out. Except they didn't do it.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Friday, 3 July 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I was so ready to hate this band and simply lump them in with all the other wussy new indie bullshit that's been bothering me for the past 3-4 years, but this record is pretty fuckin great.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Obviously their sound is derivative of at least 5 late 80's/early 90's bands, but the songs are still really good. It's the good kind of derivative.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I especially like that they don't have glockenspiels or violins.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 21 July 2009 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link

that is a good thing it's true

i know neither band are doing anything special but i much prefer brilliant colors and dum dum girls to tpobpah and viv girls. possibly the hype buzzkill hasn't made its way to me as yet?

more posts that will never be released (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link

You know, "Stay Alive" is actually pretty great. I'm a little surprised that I'm still playing this album on a semi-regular basis.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Playing the album is one thing. Seeing them live (NY Seaport) is another. Remarkable lack of charisma. Like they're almost trying to be the most boring indie band on earth.

paulhw, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link

that's kind of the vibe i got from listening to the album, tbh. i do like a few of the tunes, especially "the tenure itch," but nothing really makes me want to like them more than that

Mr. Sb, n r u? (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp - <3 brilliant colors. you should check out grass widows too, if you haven't already

pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link

They've got a new EP coming out in a few months... can't wait!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

just noticed that slumberland are doing the brilliant colours album.. neat

more posts that will never be released (electricsound), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Playing the album is one thing. Seeing them live (NY Seaport) is another.

Avoiding them live for this very reason... album's not bad, though!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I've been avoiding this record for ages (on account of it just makes me feel like a Target Market with a giant red circle painted on my back - oh and also the awful name) - but it's really kind of alright.

Yeah, there's utterly nothing new about what they're doing at all. But it's a pleasing enough example of something I really rather have a soft spot for. (I mean, they're an American version of Manhattan Love Suicides, really, or a lo-fi Asobi Seksu)

Though that P4k review at the top is kind of out of order, I agree.

I Like Daydreams, I've Had Enough Reality (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

"it all started a few years ago with a place to bury strangers"

*~~dissolve to sepia toned past~~*

omar little, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

The quoted excerpt from that review makes me think the writer forgot he was writing an article as opposed to a messageboard post; the point "there's nothing wrong with leaning heavily on the past if you're good at what you do" is one that is worth making but probably not with the extra "and if you are worthless if you disagree with me" sentiment.

a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw them live and now i have no desire to listen to this album again, although track 2 is still pretty good. Black Tambourine is about 50 times better than this though.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

lol omar

yellow card for favre (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.movieactors.com/actors/Freezes-Characters/jfk305donald.jpeg

omar little, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it started like that.
In the wind.
Press releases, promo copies, conversation.
Then a call is made. Maybe to someone like Ryan Schreiber.
No one said, "They must get an 8.4." No vote. Nothing's on paper.
There's no one to blame.
It's as old as the Arcade Fire
Five glowing review submissions, one negative. No one's guilty.
Everybody in the power structure...
...has a plausible deniability.
No compromising connections except at the most secret point.
But it must succeed.

omar little, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i officially like this band's music quite a lot now

wH1N1 g. swinegarten (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 October 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i love thier whole kiwi/bats vibe. new single is awesome

wH1N1 g. swinegarten (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 October 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

hm, you should issue a press release

autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 October 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i officially like this band's music quite a lot now

Hells yeah. I love this band's recent string of high-quality, non-album singles.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 October 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

saint etienne remix of new single should be up the alley of air france fans

sculpture of marmalade (electricsound), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Count me among the people who thought this band's name was so terrible that it was hard to imagine them being anything like sure-footed in their other aesthetic choices. But if it really sounds a little like the Jesus and Mary Chain etc. I'll probably like it!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

the non-remix version of the new single, as nice as it sounds, seems a little too cynically 'knowing' about its field mice-meets-'just like heaven' vibe for me to love it

dig the other tracks though

sculpture of marmalade (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Champagne!

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

We have achieved concensus.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

however i hope they get over this 'use the same cover art but with a different single colour' thing very soon

seems lazy and it's not like it's a good design anyway

sculpture of marmalade (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

^referring to the album and its respective singles, not the new EP btw

sculpture of marmalade (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Are the remixes on the new EP worth it? I'm being stingy with my emusic credits.

sofatruck, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link

the only one of the three i didn't dig all that much was the DJ downfall. the St.E one is pretty essential

any old tawny port in a storm (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't imagine life now without it.

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

The new songs on the EP are really good too.

the supposedly self-aware acoustic stylings of Joe Latte (kshighway1), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I prefer the EP to the album: it's shorter, of course, and gives me no time to note their weaknesses.

lihaperäpukamat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:56 (fourteen years ago) link

decide for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JemWi8T-ejI

k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

im not a big fan of the st. etienne version tbh, too slow and not digging all the open space

k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

iirc

k3vin k., Tuesday, 27 October 2009 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Just dropping in to say that "Gentle Sons" is, by far, one of my favorite songs of the year.

"Monday morning comes too fast / you stumble down the diamond path / and every step will be your last," the roar of the feedback-soaked guitars, and the solo—without a single note wasted—right in the middle. The sequencing on the record, with this closing, is perfect.

And I have to disagree with Alfred; I think the album's better than the EP, but then again I would, because I prefer albums, and I see the songs on Higher Than the Stars EP as slight variations on the songs that are on the self-titled record. Plus, in addition to "Gentle Sons," we have "Stay Alive," which is their second best song.

kshighway1, Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Is "Gentle Sons" the album closer? Seem to remember it cherry-picking the JAMC "Just Like Honey" drum intro... not that they're the first to do so, but it's very noticeable.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, Hal Blaine was ripping off that intro twenty years before JAMC even formed!

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

This goes all the way back to the first post, but someone once quoted me a Dillinger Four review that may not actually exist in which the reviewer who may not actually exist said, "If you don't like this record (Midwestern Songs of the Americas), then you are an asshole." That is the only record in the world where I could somewhat get behind that sentiment.

Oh, the Pains of Being Pure at Heart are pleasant when they are fuzzy.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 November 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Is "Gentle Sons" the album closer? Seem to remember it cherry-picking the JAMC "Just Like Honey" drum intro... not that they're the first to do so, but it's very noticeable.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, November 1, 2009 1:13 PM (2 hours ago)

Yup, that's the song!

kshighway1, Sunday, 1 November 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

missing u ott

anyway, i really like the new single

http://pitchfork.com/news/38714-hear-the-new-pains-of-being-pure-at-heart-single-say-no-to-love/

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

They're playing here in six weeks. Can't wait!

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link

still love the "[P4K Reviews]" in the title, dude went out of his way to save future ilx taxonomers some trouble

sveltko (k3vin k.), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

digging the hazy harmonies behind those guitars in the chorus.

i like how this band churns out stand-alone singles that are strong enough to be A-material on an album. bands did this type of thing in the 80s, i think.

alfred, they're playing in south florida? where?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 May 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

Fierce theory.

http://bit.ly/Bfu2p (ksh), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

good to see they've moved to a new artwork paradigm

hell and the handbaskets (electricsound), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

They're playing here in six weeks. Can't wait!

― cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i might be home alfred, if so i'll see you at the show

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Awesome! A long-deferred pleasure.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Daniel, they're playing at Grand Central, where PopLife is currently.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link

spotted it; thanks.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 7 May 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

good to see they've moved to a new artwork paradigm

― hell and the handbaskets (electricsound), Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:21 PM

yeah. i really like that cover! it's better than either of last year's releases'

http://bit.ly/Bfu2p (ksh), Friday, 7 May 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

the show i saw was kind of boring, unfortunately

Vanilla Douche (res), Friday, 7 May 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

wow, this new song sounds a lot like the field mice

Vanilla Douche (res), Friday, 7 May 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

doesn't the riff also sound a lot like "12:51" by the strokes?

Vanilla Douche (res), Friday, 7 May 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Love it!

When I saw them live they sounded eerily (and kind of disappointingly) like the album. It's good to know they're not just studio rats but at least throw in an extra guitar solo measure or two.

skip, Friday, 7 May 2010 04:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i finally listened to this, it was okay, even though it sounded like everything from the early 90's. and there was one song that sounded just like something off the last yo la tengo record. but you know whatever.

akm, Friday, 7 May 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

The drummer is so cute in this video. The cross-legged conducting of 1000 drummers, etc. I love this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWHYwzSdfWE

youn, Saturday, 3 July 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Is anyone going to the show on Thu?

youn, Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I would expect nothing less from Ian 'Throb' Cohen.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, February 6, 2009 12:20 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this guy

call all destroyer, Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

doesn't the riff also sound a lot like "12:51" by the strokes?

u_u

ilxor is awesome what the fuck are you guys on about (ilxor), Sunday, 17 October 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to this record in a while, but it was definitely one of my favorites from last year

markers, Sunday, 17 October 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i pretty much prefer everything they've done that wasn't on the album to anything on the album

mayor failure (electricsound), Sunday, 17 October 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i wonder if they will show any development on future releases, they do tend to write the same song over and over. it's a catchy song mind.

keythhtyek, Monday, 18 October 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd take an album and a couple more EPs of that same song over and over.

skip, Monday, 18 October 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

thoughts?

, Friday, 16 May 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

new album is just kinda whatever but man the first one is totally a classic

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Sunday, 18 May 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link

I think my favorite is the stuff from the interim between the 1st and 2nd albums. This one's okay, though I believe everyone in the band except the singer is a new hire.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 18 May 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link

New one is rather good, much better than the last. Probably relative to how much like the field mice they sound, closer to wratten the better.

keythhtyek, Sunday, 18 May 2014 04:20 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

Been surprised at how well the new record's stood up. I've listened to it a number of times and think it's probably as good as the s/t; but any band that's made the same album 3 times is going to fly under the radar. Love "Simple to Sure" > "Kelly" and "Eurydice" > "Masokissed".

I guess if you're going to ape your entire sound, do it as well as these guys do (see also: Yuck's debut).

Indexed, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

Probably reductionist to post this in here, but Peggy Wang from TPOBPAH has a new band called Store Front. They put out their debut EP today and frontwoman Amy Rose Spiegel has a nice voice. Will appeal to fans of Pains and shimmery indie rock songs between 2:30 - 3:00.

https://storefrontnyc.bandcamp.com/

Task EP: https://open.spotify.com/album/5rcF3nAW28mDCcSJGBaOfX

Press: https://www.stereogum.com/2072593/store-front-rip-the-price-off/music/

Indexed, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link

repost it over here so we can build up some indie pop discussion momentum:

Not Pop Not Indie Shambhala 2020 Thread

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

wait wrong thread, here:

Rolling Indiepop/Twee/Jangle 2020

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link


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