US #1s of 1989

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Part 14. Random year, determined by http://www.random.org/integers/?num=1&min=1942&max=2007&col=5&base=10&format=html&rnd=new as per usual. In the can: 1941, 1944, 1957, 1960, 1963, 1968, 1975, 1981, 1988, 1992, 2000, 2006, 2008

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Madonna, "Like a Prayer" 34
Bobby Brown, "My Prerogative" 14
Paula Abdul, "Straight Up" 9
Fine Young Cannibals, "She Drives Me Crazy" 9
Janet Jackson, "Miss You Much" 8
The Bangles, "Eternal Flame" 7
Fine Young Cannibals, "Good Thing" 7
Prince, "Batdance" 4
Billy Joel, "We Didn't Start the Fire" 4
Martika, "Toy Soldiers" 4
Milli Vanilli, "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" 3
Roxette, "The Look" 3
Roxette, "Listen to Your Heart" 2
Richard Marx, "Right Here Waiting" 1
Paula Abdul, "Forever Your Girl" 1
Bon Jovi, "I'll Be There for You" 1
Mike + The Mechanics, "The Living Years" 1
Sheriff, "When I'm with You" 1
Paula Abdul, "Cold Hearted" 1
Bad English, "When I See You Smile" 0
Gloria Estefan, "Don't Wanna Lose You" 0
New Kids On The Block, "Hangin' Tough" 0
Milli Vanilli, "Blame It on the Rain" 0
Simply Red, "If You Don't Know Me By Now" 0
Milli Vanilli, "Baby Don't Forget My Number" 0
Richard Marx, "Satisfied" 0
New Kids On The Block, "I'll Be Loving You (Forever)" 0
Bette Midler, "Wind Beneath My Wings" 0
Michael Damian, "Rock On" 0
Debbie Gibson, "Lost in Your Eyes" 0
Phil Collins, "Two Hearts" 0
Phil Collins, "Another Day in Paradise" 0


The Reverend, Thursday, 22 January 2009 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

a few good choices, a few ironic choices.

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 January 2009 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

jesus christ what a horrible bunch

shook pwns (omar little), Thursday, 22 January 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

"My Prerogitive" could wipe the fucking floor with this lot.

The rest of my top 5:
"Good Thing"
"Like a Prayer"
"Miss You Much"
"Blame It on the Rain"

The Reverend, Thursday, 22 January 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

a lot of dross, but the good stuff is great. contenders for me:

my prerogative
straight up
like a prayer
miss you much
she drives me crazy

i might need to pray on it...

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

kinda wanna vote for sheriff

Cooking From A Stovetop (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

"Like a Prayer," easily, followed by "My Prerogative."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

in the end it was down to toy soldiers and she drives me crazy.. FYC wins for proving they could actually write more successful songs than the covers they were better known for up til then..

Cooking From A Stovetop (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

This is as good a place to ask this as any I guess: Am I the only one who's always thought the singer from Fine Young Cannibals looks like a vampire?

The Reverend, Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link

does a bit

Cooking From A Stovetop (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Voted for "My Perogative," but I already regret not voting for "The Look" instead, plus I probably should've gone back and listened to Michael Damian's cover of that great David Essex song for the first time in 20 years. Also like "Toy Soldiers," "I'll Be There For You," "We Didn't Start the Fire," "Like a Prayer," most of the Milli Vanilli and Paula Abdul singles, and I bet I wouldn't mind the Richard Marx and NKOTB ones if I heard them right now, either. Not nearly as wretched as list as it looks at first.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:43 (fifteen years ago) link

dire

J0hn D., Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Tough to beat "Like a Prayer" for the rest of this bunch...

ilxor, Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't mind the Michael Damian Cover or "Satisfied" at all.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link

surprised not to see more love for "miss you much," which strikes me as a better single than "like a prayer" or "my prerogative" (its beat is a lot harder than either) - it gets my vote here in the absence of W.A.S.P.'s cover of "The Real Me"

J0hn D., Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I actually like a lot of these songs a lot. I voted for "Straight Up" just ahead of FYC, but "Miss You Much", "The Look", "Like A Prayer", "My Prerogative", these are great!

Euler, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I was only 6 in 1989, but MTV was perpetually on thanks to my older brothers. The only songs on the list I remember liking were Like a Prayer and She Drives Me Crazy

burt_stanton, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link

straight up!!

ian, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

"my prerogative" gets the edge for sexy keytar player

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Honestly, I would probably take "Like a Prayer" over "The Look" these days, but I've loved "The Look" longest, so I'm going with those wacky Swedes.

Pillboxxx/The Lol Belol (Pillbox), Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

straight up abstain.

xxp

PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Sherriff!

Sundar, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Paula #2 though.

Sundar, Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok, i think i've mentioned this like six times on ilx, but "Miss You Much" was number one on my birthday and it is AWESOME.

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Thursday, 22 January 2009 05:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh I like that too.

Sundar, Thursday, 22 January 2009 05:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Tempted to go with Janet or Madonna but Billy Joel has the weight of history on his side.

da croupier, Thursday, 22 January 2009 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link

if "Like A Prayer" didn't tower over this list, I'd be able to say that my 2 favorite songs on here are by Milli Vanilli and not even be kidding.

some dude, Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Seeing this list gave me a swell of nostalgia so thick that I scared myself

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:03 (fifteen years ago) link

It's so hard NOT to got with "My Prerogative" since its held up so well, but "The Look" has a strange pull over me.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:03 (fifteen years ago) link

That opening guitar riff is deadly.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck yes

the vaguely middle eastern college rock guitar riff with the post-nenah cherry world-hop beat all coming from people with intentially mixing metaphors ("tasting like a raindrop", "kissing is a color") in attempt at abba style takeover.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm gonna cry myself to sleep at what an old and unfun person my nine-year-old self would see me as.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:10 (fifteen years ago) link

my birthyear! "miss you much"

Socktor Duperman (k3vin k.), Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Gloria Estefan's is my favorite piece of crap on the list, but Janet (again) gets my vote.

Eric H., Thursday, 22 January 2009 06:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Take out FYC and it shows what a crock o` crap 89 was............

Lincolnshire, Thursday, 22 January 2009 08:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"Like a Prayer". This vintage is kinda better, some good stuff there. I even still kinda like "Toy Soldiers".

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link

How you do these?

How I do these is, go down list, click one I like , then continue, click one I like better, to the end.

Then click "vote" if I'd play it if I had one coin for the jukebox (as opposed to keepeing the coin)

Comes to something when Fine Young Cannibals is the eventual winner.

Mark G, Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I also voted "She Drives Me Crazy" using the "one coin for the jukebox" principle. But now I'm furiously earworming "My Prerogative" and questioning my decision.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link

oh I went "Good Thing"

Mark G, Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Was going to vote Miss You Much, but thought everyone would have it locked with Bobby, so instead voted Eternal Flame. This is why you should read threads first I guess.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 22 January 2009 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"Like a Prayer," easily, followed by "My Prerogative."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:06 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ + "She Drives Me Crazy"

Ioannis, Thursday, 22 January 2009 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Like A Prayer, easily

runner-ups: Straight Up, Batdance, My Prerogatve

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Thursday, 22 January 2009 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"Miss You Much" always sounds anonymous to me; I certainly don't like it as much as "Alright," "Escapade," "Love Will Never Do (Without You)," and ten other Janet singles.

No love for Simply Red? It's a perfectly decent cover.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 January 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Janet Jackson has always sounded anonymous to me, pretty much.

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 January 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't listen to Miss You Much w/o thinking of the Weird Al vers. on Polka Your Eyes Out, and how that version is superior to the original.

JtM Is Ruled By A Black Man (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 22 January 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

man this list is depressing

either Bobby or FYC, I guess

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Thursday, 22 January 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Like A Prayer

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

the longer I look at this list the more I think "worst year ever" but then I remember 1) thrash and 2) 1989 THE NUMBER ANOTHER SUMMER

pop charts sucked in the late 80s imo

J0hn D., Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link

The year of my high school graduation; I was starting to believe myself outside the audience for pop music. Some of these songs make me cringe but I liked a lot of them, sometimes in spite of myself.

"If You Don't Know Me" is a perfectly decent cover but so unnecessary, and not great in its own right. Without the delicious backing vocal (which I believe is H. Melvin himself, but I could be misremembering) it would just be Hucknallian emoting over a ballad, adding little to the musical corpus.

"Eternal Flame" is one of Ms. Hoffs's better vocal performances, I think, but a kind of draggy song overall. I think her hottness made people underrate her as a singer.

Verily do I dig the groove of those FYC tracks but the constant falsetto of "Drives me Crazy" grates and threatens to turn it into a novelty. "Good Thing" is well nigh unimpeachable, though.

The classic rockers here - Rutherford, Joel, Collins - look so out of place here in among the boy bands and dance pop! I almost feel sorry for them, except that these tracks are among their poorest offerings. Only the guitar sound in "The Living Years" is palatable.

"Toy Soldiers" is not bad hookwise but so melodramatic as to seem corny in retrospect.

"Straight Up" rocks like a mofo and renders the other Abdul tyoons superfluous. I would say it also renders Janet's entire oeuvre superfluous, but I may be in the minority there.

Dangit, "Like a Prayer" is probably the winner here. It's held up well.

Ye Mad Puffin, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Not sure what I'd vote for -- liked a lot of these at the time, especially as a DJ in a Top 40 club (must own 12" versions of at least a dozen of them), but have not been in the mood for this stuff in I don't know how long, and lots that I liked at the time is barely tolerable now (and that includes Fine Young Cannibals). Would probably go with "Like a Prayer," which I denigrated for years as being too stuffy and now think sounds pretty great. I will say I'm probably the only person in the room who thinks the two Phil Collins records are among the more enduring pop records here. "Two Hearts" is a better Motown rip than "Good Thing." (I wonder if I'd still hate "Batdance" if I heard it again? My guess is I might be a bit more open to it though I loathed it at the time.)

Also: just me, or is this an exceptionally long list of #1s for a single year?

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, also: is this list unusually heavy on ballads?

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

"Two Hearts" is a better Motown rip than "Good Thing."

otm

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

No one repping for Eternal Flame? Dammit, I will.

chap, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

A lot of elements in this list: flame, wind, rain, fire.

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't think I'd rep for "Eternal Flame," but I'd probably pick "Listen to Your Heart" over "The Look."

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Bad English, "When I See You Smile"

I just watched the video for this. Seldom have I seen such hair.

Charlie Rose Nylund, Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

horrible horrible list

Batdance ftw

Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

FYC x 2

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

no way!

xp

Ioannis, Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I find the whole Batdance album weirdly fascinating and great so I have no hesitation in voting for it, although Like a Prayer is a pretty great song. FYC annoys.

Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

er BATMAN album

Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Future" was fantastic!

Ioannis, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"Miss You Much" always sounds anonymous to me; I certainly don't like it as much as "Alright," "Escapade," "Love Will Never Do (Without You)," and ten other Janet singles.

Agreed. "Alright" is very much my favorite off that album.

Eric H., Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

"Two Hearts" is a better Motown rip than "Good Thing."

De gustibus and all that. I vastly prefer Collins's "You Can't Hurry Love" to "Two Hearts." And he has way better R&B-flavored songs elsewhere in his solo catalog, esp. "Behind the Lines" and "Who Said I Would."

Ye Mad Puffin, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Except Lamont Dozier co-wrote "Two Hearts." I love the bridge and the oo-oo-oohs.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't even know that! (about Dozier). And I was going to say, purely as a piece of songcraft (and regardless of the singer), I might even prefer "Two Hearts" to "You Can't Hurry Love," mostly for what I think Alfred is referring to as the bridge (or is it the bridge? the part that gets me is the ten-second musical bit coming out of the first chorus). I thought the drums in Collins' version of "You Can't Hurry Love" sounded pretty spectacular at the time, but the rest of it just seemed kind of pointless.

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh crap, I somehow skimmed right past "Like a Prayer."

I would rep for so, so many of these -- Michael Damian, two of three Paula Abduls (voted for "Cold Hearted Snake") . . . suddenly I feel like I should have voted for Martika.

nabisco, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I also refuse to front as if Milli Vanilli was not pretty awesome

nabisco, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Loved MV at the time, definitely. I remember how pissed off I was when the scandal erupted: suddenly, I was not even allowed to play their records anymore, it was a really really weird thing (a week previous, I'd have to play some of their songs TWICE in a night; immediately after, kaput).

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

In an idea world we would have just switched to having famous middle-aged REAL MV singers walking around in the rain in spandex pants with their guts hanging out

nabisco, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I confess I don't have a strong memory of many Milli Vanilli songs, but I agree in principle that there's no reason the songs couldn't still be awesome once the jig was up.

Indeed, if one were feeling all pomo'n'shit one could decide that the songs were MORE awesome by virtue of their association with a big meta-joke that was in some way an ironic indictment of and/or comment upon modern Image-construction, starmaking, the music-industrial complex, etc. etc. etc.

Ye Mad Puffin, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

no they were just awesome stupid fun

Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

>>>Indeed, if one were feeling all pomo'n'shit one could decide that the songs were MORE awesome by virtue of their association with a big meta-joke that was in some way an ironic indictment of and/or comment upon modern Image-construction, starmaking, the music-industrial complex, etc. etc. etc.<<<

Don't know if I took it THAT far, but I did at the time strongly champion the idea that they should actually fight back hard on it, point out the hypocrisy of the situation, etc. (or at least give the finger in their next video during one of their dance routines).

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

correction: make that "awesome stupid fun dance routines."

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

My fondest memory of MV: deejays changing the lyrics to "Blame It on the Rain" to "BLAME IT ON HU-SSEIN YEAH YEAH" during the first Gulf War.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I vaguely remember that! I hope Rush Limbaugh isn't reading this. Wouldn't want to give him any ideas.

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty sure the MV track that would hold up best for me is "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" with its part-and-parcel retread of Chris DeBurgh's "Lady in Red" beat.

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

(Unless the thievery happened in the other direction, though I don't think so.)

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Would have been a neat trick for Deburgh to have traveled forward in time to bite off of Milli Vanilli!

Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Heh - I couldn't recall what year that came out, but I'm assuming it was '85/86.

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Pretty sure it was late '86/early '87

Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Always appreciated <a href = "http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/music/rbmilli-91.php";>George Clinton's response</a> to MV:

"'We want to get the funk out of the two Milli Vanilli guys because we don't appreciate how the recording industry is treating the artists,' says proven foe of fraudulent funk George Clinton in the March/April New Funk Times (Ehrenstrasse 19, W-5000 Köln 1, Germany). Clinton notes that the Four Tops were the only Motown act who never 'had people sing lead and background' for them. 'Artist' can mean anything. Dancing is an art and pantomiming is, too--even lip-synching is an art! That's a hard thing to do--to dance and lip-synch. And it's hard to lip-synch when you are passionate 'cause when you get carried away and you want to pause it--'wait a minute'--, but the tape says 'Fuck you!' The tape doesn't want to wait.'" Passing off the duo's egomania as the inevitable fruit of their biz-determined charade, George hopes to repeat his reclamation job on the then scandalized, since high-charting Vanessa Williams. 'Once we finish with them, they'll definitely be sangin'! I mean, everybody can sing--even if it's only in the bathroom or a crowd.' Carsten Heyn, who manages the act now dubbed Rob & Fab, says they're currently in a European studio working up a late-summer single. He was sufficiently flattered by Dr. Funkenstein's plan to try and arrange a meeting last time his clients hit L.A., but couldn't make the hookup."

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

oops - link here: http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/music/rbmilli-91.php

sw00ds, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"Good Thing" towers over everything else on this list. When I was a wee lad I'd always air-piano the Jools Holland solo. Rock!

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

This might just be the worst list I've ever seen on one of these polls. 1989
was an awful, awful year for mainstream pop music.

That being said, I'm going with Mike & The Mechanics' "Living Years"--subtle, poignant,
and holds up well.

(seriously: "Batdance" all the way)

Joe, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Batdance is also perhaps the strangest U.S. #1s I can think of...

Joe, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Those synths on "The Living Years" are as subtle as a sack of apeshit breaking your kneecaps.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

"Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" bears more than a slight lyrical/musical resemblance to LL's "I Need Love."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

First few times I heard Milli Vanilli on the radio, I just assumed they were another good new-jack-swing group. (Might have even thought one of their songs was Bobby Brown. They weren't really that far apart.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

has way better R&B-flavored songs elsewhere in his solo catalog

"Easy Lover"! (Okay, not exactly "solo", per se'. But still.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

That being said, I'm going with Mike & The Mechanics' "Living Years"--subtle, poignant,
and holds up well.

Haha, a friend frequently likes to point out that "The Living Years" is the worst song ever written.

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty sure this was the year I got arrested twice

that's just how bad the pop music was

J0hn D., Friday, 23 January 2009 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I kinda wanted to vote for "Batdance" because it's weird and silly and fun, but there's no denying "Like a Prayer" has meant more to me than any of these other songs.

Tuomas, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

vick-vick-vick VICKI VALE

Courtney Love's Jew Loan Officer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I haven't heard 80-90% of this list since 1989... (not complaining!)

timely classics indeed.

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Like a Prayer should be the runaway winner, but I voted Straight Up just for the wicked synth lead into the chorus.

ledge, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"Straight Up" is a worthier heir to Control than "Miss You Much."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

b. brown just over bon jovi

crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 23 January 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

"Straight Up" is a worthier heir to Control than "Miss You Much."

so taking you off my speed-dial for this

J0hn D., Friday, 23 January 2009 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Absolutely convinced that '89 was a great pop year, but its greatness wasn't so evident in the number ones (lots of better stuff a little further down the chart, "Buffalo Stance," Soul II Soul, "Paradise City," Young MC, etc.).

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

... "The Way You Love Me" (Karyn White), "Every Little Step" (Bobby Brown), "Funky Cold Medina," "Patience"...

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Karyn White's "Superwoman" was that year, too, right? Definitely voted for that in Pazz & Jop. What else hit? Kix "Don't Close Your Eyes," Cinderella "Coming Home" and "Gypsy Road," Def Leppard "Rocket," White Lion "Little Fighter" -- beats the living hell out 2008, that's for sure.

xhuxk, Friday, 23 January 2009 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Warrant "Down Boys" and "Heaven," Will to Power "Fading Away," Tom Petty "Free Fallin'," Don Henley "The End Of The Innocence"...

xhuxk, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Karyn White is SO forgotten.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

yet more here too, probably:

http://robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/pjres89.php

xhuxk, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link

"Every Little Step" didn't reach #1?!

Eric H., Friday, 23 January 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Still think it's weird that "Keep On Movin" did double the business of "Back To Life" on P&J.

Eric H., Friday, 23 January 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link

My pops used to always sing "Back to Life" when I was v. little.

The Reverend, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

the bangles wins out over madonna and roxette ('the look').

never pictured myself voting for the bangles in anything.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

also, I know xhuxk was never its biggest fan, but Inner City's "Good Life" (though I now much prefer its followup, "Big Fun," which, surprisingly, didn't even make the Top 100 but was a big club hit for sure). Plus the Technotronic hits + Ten City's "That's the Way Love Is" (all from "the Dean's List").

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Still think it's weird that "Keep On Movin" did double the business of "Back To Life" on P&J.

i'm not - i think keep on movin' is the much better track. although 13 year old me would probably have wildly disagreed

both those inner city singles were awesome. i can't remember if they were hits in aus but they certainly got plenty of airplay.

Cooking From A Stovetop (electricsound), Friday, 23 January 2009 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

that should be "i'm not surprised"

Cooking From A Stovetop (electricsound), Friday, 23 January 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

most bewildering is that 'bust a move' did not make #1

Cooking From A Stovetop (electricsound), Friday, 23 January 2009 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Agreed.

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I can put myself in the moment of this year frighteningly well. Would have gone "Buffalo Stance" given the chance, but as things are, I want to make sure "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You" gets a vote.

PS: Yes, "Batdance" is undoubtedly the strangest #1 hit of the rock era.

Joseph McCombs, Friday, 23 January 2009 08:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I despised "Batdance" at the time, and don't think I found it particularly "strange" at all -- just another collage record in the wake of M/A/R/R/S etc., and bad at it. Maybe I should maybe revisit it.

I know xhuxk was never its biggest fan, but Inner City's "Good Life" (though I now much prefer its followup, "Big Fun,"). Plus the Technotronic hits + Ten City's "That's the Way Love Is"

Did I really dislike Inner City that much then? If so, the hate didn't last long. Debut LP is good, and I reviewed one of their later ones in Rolling Stone. Pretty sure I always thought Technotronic were great. And I like that Ten City single, too, though when I found a cheap copy of their debut CD a couple years ago, I couldn't get into the rest of it.

xhuxk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:49 (fifteen years ago) link

You know, I feel certain, xhuxk, that around that time you at least mildly dissed Inner City (maybe in that Pazz & Jop CIUT show you did with Phil and Marc Weisblott?), but it's possible I'm confusing them with Soul II Soul. I remember you comparing one of them to Tofu pizza (a comment that made me laugh at the time even though I disagreed).

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

"Batdance" is a "strange" #1 in that the song doesn't contain a single memorable hook (and only made #1 because of, duh, Batman). Though again -- I have a feeling I'd be a little more receptive to it now.

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I definitely dismissed Soul II Soul!! I thought they were real new age bores back then. But I've got to tolerate their debut album's groove over the years.

I can think of lots of #1 records without memorable hooks. (Usually they're just called "bad," too.)

xhuxk, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

True, though "Batdance" isn't merely devoid of hooks it's jammed with anti-hooks: moments that sound designed to scare me off.

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

xp I mean I've "come to like" Soul II Soul's groove over the years. Tolerate isn't strong enough. But I think part of the reason it seems better to me in retrospect than it did at the time is that nobody seems to make that kind of r&b anymore, and probably nobody has for years. (People called that stuff "swing-beat," right? Did anybody other than Soul II Soul do it? It probably helped, though, when I started thinking of them more as a continuation of the reserved and smooth-jazzy early '80s Brit-soul of people like Linx and Junior than as the exciting new thing they never were. Also, I was cranky then.)

xhuxk, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

ilm is the wind beneath my wings.

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Did anybody other than Soul II Soul do it?

Well, I was totally obsessed with the "soul II soul beat" at the time (which didn't btw start with Soul II Soul -- an almost identical beat was used on Eric B's "Paid in Full" and it comes from another source entirely, I forget what though) and I own plenty of 12" singles from '89-90 with a variation on it (beat-wise I think of those years as a battle between the soul II soul groove and the "funky drummer" sample, which were around the same tempo though easily discernible from one another). Damn if I can remember now what all those singles are (the only one that comes to mind instantly is a 12" remix of Madonna's "Keep it Together"). I seem to think it crossed over a lot into MOR type stuff, precisely like Phil Collins and Quincy Jones et al.

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

BTW, the groove was totally revived (to the point where it sounds to me like a sample) in that Lloyd/Lil Wayne hit from last year "Around the World." And now that I think of it another big soul II soul groove song from the time was Lisa Stanfield's "Around the World." So um....

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

but Inner City's "Good Life" (though I now much prefer its followup, "Big Fun,")

weird. 'Big Fun' came first here.

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Oops... the Lloyd/Lil Wayne is called "Girls Around the World" - freudian slip.

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

xp Maybe "Big Fun" was first here too. I honestly don't know. I guess because it wasn't an official hit I didn't get to know it until later.

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

three singles from '90 using that Soul II Soul beat: JT & The Big Family's 'Moments In Soul', Maureen's 'Thinking Of You', Enigma's 'Sadness Part 1'.

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Cinderella - "Gypsy Road"

would definitely have voted for this had it been an option.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

"Sadeness" -- yes, absolutely. Thanks Bondzilla.

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Wasn't it (the Soul2soul/Paid in full shuffle beat) from "Don't look any further"?

I know the bassline on "Paid in full" came from there.

Mark G, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

See, I guess this makes me an old person, or just not a DJ, or something, but I would never put "Paid In Full" or "Sadeness" or "Keep It Together"'s extended mix (all of which I love) in the same category as Soul II Soul, merely on the basis of one element of their sound (even if I'd noticed the similarity before, which I never did.) I think it's interesting that you guys do, but they just don't feel the same to me. Enigma feels more like Alec Costandinos, or Black Sabbath's "Supertzar" even! So when I say I think Soul II Soul were anticipated by Linx, et. al., I'm not necessarily talking about the beat; I'm talking about their whole Brit-soul sound.

xhuxk, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I am convinced that many of you are frontin' when you say you hate this list of songs because so many of them are awesome (admittedly "The Living Years" is not awesome)

Okay I looked at the list again and I would like to retract my earlier accusation because really some of these songs should just go suck mouse dick (fuck you, Bad English, just fuck you, and take Richard Marx with you).

Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

xp (to xhuxk)
Well, sure, each of those records has their own completely separate lives and genealogies (?) as well, all I'm suggesting is the S2S beat was one very specific common thread between them. And in a way, it probably WAS a "DJ thing" -- certainly it was for me in that I'd scour record bins for songs with that beat (almost didn't matter what else was happening in the song) because they were easy to mix together and it was FUN to mix them together. (Ditto the zillion "Funky Drummer" tracks available at the time though it became the most irritating cliche eventually.)

"Don't look any further" Hmmm, that might be it.

sw00ds, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Not a word about "Hangin' Tough" so far, I see.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Everyone is trying to pretend it didn't exist.

Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

chuck i'm only saying all those tracks use the same basic beat/break - no other meaningful connection. it's fair to say Soul II Soul were picking up brit-soul ethos baton from Linx and whoever tho sure. I don't remember anyone else around the time joining in tho (without veering into Acid Jazz territory).

Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

1989, the year Rhythm Nation came out. so great! i've been listening to a ton of new jack swing lately. voted for "my prerogative" just over "miss you much" though i love both about equally.

so many awesome songs in 1989.

NFL RUNOFF miss u plaxico (daria-g), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't give a single crap about anything here but Janet Jackson. And I hate the Bangles, I really really hate the Bangles. Everything by the Bangles, anything to do with the Bangles. End of sermon.

Glow In The Dark (Bimble), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Obviously you've never heard "If She Knew What She Wants," "Hazy Shade of Winter," "Following..."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link

The Bangles - All Over the Place album is great. I would have thought Bimble would like "Going Down to Liverpool"

Staying slightly off topic, I wish Roxette's "Must Have Been Love" was on here because that is the kind of sappy ballad that gets to me.

james k polk, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

"Fading Like a Flower (Every Time You Leave)" still sounds great to me; and "Dangerous" is their best popper.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Did we already do 1990? I want to vote for Maxi Priest "Close to You."

Eric H., Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

man that Bangles "Hazy Shade" is for me a huge example of a band covering a song and just blowing the original right out of the water.

J0hn D., Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

yep. and "in my room" is flawless sexy mod-pop.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

man that Bangles "Hazy Shade" is for me a huge example of a band covering a song and just blowing the original right out of the water.

No -- it's the TEXTBOOK example.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

(admittedly "The Living Years" is not awesome)

I have to give it my vote for being a shamelessly manipulative "Cats in the Cradle" update that somehow transcends its by-numbers writing to effectively sell a schlocky message complete with a gospel choir knockout punch.

zaxxon25, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm a total sucker for songs about parents and children, but even i don't like that one.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Chuck and Scott should read this about the "Ashley's Roachclip" break (which Soul II Soul reconfigured): http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2008/05/this-is-the-sou.html.

Matos W.K., Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks, that mix and writeup is excellent, though Rich's experience/definition is obviously somewhat different than my own, i.e., this strikes me as a little bizarre: "I was so strict with this that I didn't include stuff like Soul II Soul's Club Mix of 'Keep on Movin''..." To me, at the time, Soul II Soul -- regardless of the actual genesis of the beat -- were the outfit most associated with the beat. But maybe that's just how it hit me at the time.

sw00ds, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

man that Bangles "Hazy Shade" is for me a huge example of a band covering a song and just blowing the original right out of the water.

TRUER THAN TRUE.

But "Eternal Flame" remains a misstep. In this poll, "Straight Up" and "The Look" both demand my vote and are so incomparable to each other that I can't choose, so no vote.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

a Bangles singles poll would be great!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

eternal flame ownes

゙(゚、 。 7 (cankles), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Obviously you've never heard "If She Knew What She Wants," "Hazy Shade of Winter," "Following..."

ARRRGH don't remind me of those first two! Shut up! yuck yuck yuck yuck..."Following" I had not heard before, though, and hearing it on You Tube just now, I admit it's a nice tune, a decent, earnest Indigo Girls-y effort. But everything, I mean everything I'm liable to hear of the Bangles on the radio or in public that was in any way a hit makes me want to puke all over the floor. If someone plays "Manic Monday", for example, I am walking out of that place so fast! And it's not because of some associative connection in my personal life at the time of their hits something, I don't know what it is. I just don't like it. There's a gimmicky cheese factor in there or something and I don't like Susanna Hoffs' voice very much.

BUT that said, when Bangles first appeared on the scene with this video in 1984, I actually liked them. I didn't buy the record, but I remember enjoying this song/video. It didn't do much of a dent in the charts, of course, that would come later:

Progoths = Prog Rock Goths (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link

The Bangles - All Over the Place album is great. I would have thought Bimble would like "Going Down to Liverpool"

But that's the thing! It's not THEIR SONG! Kimberly Rew wrote that song! Soft Boys! Katrina & The Waves! All much better artists/bands than the Bangles. Of course I love that song, it's wonderful. But not the Bangles' version.

Progoths = Prog Rock Goths (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

"Miss You Much" is great, but you know, I don't really love anything here. Record production was in a very weird place this year.

Mark, Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:29 (fifteen years ago) link

But that's the thing! It's not THEIR SONG!

whatever, Geir

J0hn D., Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^haha--exactly what i was thinking!

Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, Michaelangelo, that "Ashley's Roachclip" blog entry was real interesting. I especially liked this:

Lloyd has now interpolated the two major components of PM Dawn's "Set Adrift on Memory Bliss" - obviously, "Ashley's Roachclip" on "Girls," but there was also his use of the melody of Spandu Ballet's "True" in his 2006 single, "You." Do you think Lloyd and Prince Be are actually the same person?

And I shouldn't complain about people categorizing songs by certain beats, when I've obviously done the same thing with, say, the "Children of the Grave"/"Call Me" beat in my books. (More likely I'm just jealous when I don't notice them first!)

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL at someone called me "Geir"...

Prog Rock Goths (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 25 January 2009 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 26 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Why do I always think of Roxette, "The Look" being a year or two later?

c?ke (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Totally satisfying results.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I can live with this.

The Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:18 (fifteen years ago) link

yo!

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

It's excruciating how pop radio wouldn't have allowed "Bust a Move" to top the chart (even though it's by "Wild Thing" co-writer Young MC), but it knocks most of these out of the water.

Anyway, I rank the year.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 00:57 (five years ago) link

i love reading the old hot 100 chatter columns from around that time, when pop radio was starting to splinter severely and the old chart-tabulation methods were seeming increasingly ill-equipped to deal with that new reality. this one, from the week "bust a move" peaked, devotes a whole paragraph to explaining its bizarre (for the time) chart performance. and here another seems to suggest that "wild thing" failing to go #1 despite having been certified double-platinum (when none of the other singles in the top 30 were even gold) was something of a minor scandal that got press coverage in other outlets.

on the bright side, the us did (barely) manage to be one of the few countries where the jive bunny single was did not go top 10.

dyl, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:25 (five years ago) link

1. Shake It Off
2. Blank Space
3. Bad Blood (Remix)...
...er, what? oh, sorry

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:30 (five years ago) link

lol :D

dyl, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:31 (five years ago) link

I largely agree with your rankings this time, but I do have a very soft spot for Richard Marx’s “Right Here Waiting”.

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 10:22 (five years ago) link

Oh my god, that Jive Bunny horror... it was EVERYWHERE at the time in France...

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 10:25 (five years ago) link

I never really liked "Like A Prayer" although I reckon it's a very good/effective pop song.
The only songs in there I still like are "My Prerogative" and... "Eternal Flame" (and maybe "Batdance" although it's far from my favourite track on that album)!

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 10:29 (five years ago) link

on the bright side, the us did (barely) manage to be one of the few countries where the jive bunny single was did not go top 10.

― dyl, Monday, March 11, 2019

my abuela loved it #GlennMiller

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 11:23 (five years ago) link

My critical faculties break down (even more than usual) when it comes to this era, but it's hard to disagree with many of your Hague-bound picks (notable exceptions: Animotion, Surface). Glad to see Donna in good-to-great because where else could that song have possibly shown up.

Thank you for prodding me towards my 255-song '89 pop hit playlist. My workday just became a shade less painful.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:03 (five years ago) link

the number of Facebook commenters who've liked that dinky Animotion song astounds me.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:20 (five years ago) link

That's all they need
That's all they ask for
To see you peeved

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:24 (five years ago) link

I'm not like in love with it but it's dece.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link

that's the one recorded for the movie where Kim Basinger plays an alien with a talking magic purse

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link

Huh, I guess I never picked up on those aspects of her Batman character.

Goody Rickels on the Dime (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link


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