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Hey! Let's talk about records that have a similar vibe to Miles Davis' classsssssic album In A Silent Way. Why? Because I am listening to Joe Henderson's Power To The People record for the first time and it is sounding awesome. It's got Herbie Hancock and Ron Carter on it, and was recorded in 68 or 69, so it's not surprising that it's got that IASW feel to it, though this one sounds a little more raucous. So! What else is along these lines -- jazz/nonjazz/whatever.

tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

The first thing that comes to mind is Zawinul by Joe Zawinul--it even has a version of "In a Silent Way" on it.

President Keyes, Monday, 13 October 2008 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1070/579521188_dd5d3a181e.jpg?v=0

Tuomas, Monday, 13 October 2008 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Also, "Rain Dance" from Herbie's Sextant.

Tuomas, Monday, 13 October 2008 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

"Rain Dance" whaaaa? Freaky synth blurpees isn't really what I think of when I think of In A Silent Way. It's great though don't get me wrong.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

strangely enough, i always got an In a Silent Way vibe from much of Endtroducing..., of all things.

2nd the Zawinal pick.

"I'ma lose my religion and go secular on you, boy" (Ioannis), Monday, 13 October 2008 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

The first thing that comes to mind is Zawinul by Joe Zawinul--it even has a version of "In a Silent Way" on it.

― President Keyes, Monday, October 13, 2008 8:52 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^third this...recently picked that up on used vinyl...absolutely GORGEOUS record...am super in love with it....

almost makes up for all those horrid weather report albums dude did...almost.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

also...um...(prepares to duck)...tortoise?

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

haha

"I'ma lose my religion and go secular on you, boy" (Ioannis), Monday, 13 October 2008 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

there's a donald byrd record from the late 60s called Kofi which is pretty heavily indebted to Silent Way -- not sure who's playing on it. Byrd sure is a bandwagon jumper! He's great, but it seems he's never met a trend he didn't try. but yeah, the early mwandishi stuff, definitely. zawinul, definitely -- does any weather report sound like this? i haven't really explored them very much. i s'pose there are a bunch of ECM kinda dudes who do stuff like IASW, but I haven't heard a lot of that. Any of Cannonball Adderley's late 60s-early 70s stuff lean in this direction? I think I've only heard Phenix ...

tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

haha, sure, Tortoise! i mean, Future Days is certainly on the Silent Way tip ... interesting idea about DJ Shadow, i kinda know what you mean. Becalmed but ominous sorta thing.

tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, maybe "Rain Dance" was a bit too freaky a choice, even though I do think it's kinda in the same vein as "Shhh/Beautiful".

If you're willing to go to a totally different genre, I think 1 by Pole has a very similar feel to IASW: minimal, looped, nocturnal, pacifying, blue.

Tuomas, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

the necks, "hanging gardens"

Jordan, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

(like, totally)

Jordan, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i was going to ask if there was any electronic music that recalled this -- will check out the Pole record.

tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

xp Was just about to say Necks, their whole output kind of fits surely?

sonderangerbot, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

don't know the necks! who are they? recent?

tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

first neu! record (kinda)

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

I was just about to suggest The Necks as well...

http://www.discogs.com/release/327414

Brian Eno - Discreet Music

Treblekicker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

It's the ultimate hybrid of JAZZ and AMBIENT an sounds like an improvised JAMsession: by mixing these three words together I hereby invented a brand new musical style >
this is JAMBIENT !

gross

Jordan, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

but the necks are awesome. hanging gardens is one of my favorite records.

Jordan, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

lol, jambient

tylerw, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

[It's the ultimate hybrid of JAZZ and AMBIENT an sounds like an improvised JAMsession: by mixing these three words together I hereby invented a brand new musical style >
this is JAMBIENT !]

Ewww. Hadn't noticed that.

What about He Love Him Madly?

Treblekicker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

I give you JAMBIENT

sonderangerbot, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Haha. Move D has some explaining to do :)

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14108

Treblekicker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

Paul Schütze - Apart (disc 1) (electronic / microtonal take, but definitely chasing 'Shhh / Peaceful" - his later band 'Phantom City' was more about 70's Miles) - http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/schutze1.html
Brian Eno - "Iced World" (I wish The Drop had just been a 60 minute version of this track)

Milton Parker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

isn't that somewhat closer to ambient er...Eno than jazz? Fripp & Eno, say?

(christ, that jambient post has made me almost physically ill--just imagining the horror, the horror. *shivers*)

xxxp

"I'ma lose my religion and go secular on you, boy" (Ioannis), Monday, 13 October 2008 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

i have a record with Tony Allen and Doctor L called Psycho on Da Bus that definitely reminds me of IASW, but with an afrofunk edge.

http://www.myspace.com/doctorlmind

http://www.last.fm/music/Doctor+L,+Tony+Allen,+Jean+Phi/Psycho+On+Da+Bus

jaxon, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

definitely listen to K.I.S Compatible in the lastfm flash player (might be a bit more mellow bitches brew, but still has those sounds)

jaxon, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Bohren Und Der Club Of Gore maybe? Especially Geisterfaust.

Matt #2, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

Listening to Bennie Maupin's Jewel In The Lotus from 1974 -- definitely has a bit of the IASW vibe. Hancock's on this one too, naturally. Either way, wow, beautiful record! GET IT.

tylerw, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

I would say that each of those records by the Mwandishi members are similar to In a Silent Way — not just the Maupin, but Eddie Henderson's Sunburst and Julian Priester's Love, Love as well.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:11 (eleven years ago) link

Especially Geisterfaust.

read this as Geirzeist

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

this thread covered similar ground:

Miles Davis - In A Silent Way

on it i suggested the already-mentioned 'zawinul' alb, and also 'timeless' by jon abercrombie/jan hammer/jack dejohnette, especially the magnificent title track

'hanging gardens' is a v gd call; parts of 'ege bamyese' by can and of course 'zawinul/lava' on eno's 'another green world' also vibrate w/ some of the same teo macero space/time splice magic

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

check out the Polwechsel/Fennesz-Wrapped Islands disc I put out a few years back (on Erstwhile). I thought about namechecking IASW in the PR, but decided in the end it was a bit too much of a stretch. definitely an overlapping vibe, though, worth investigating for sure...

jon abbey, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

Harvest Time off this:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/MyJazzWorld/SO5iM5Qvo2I/AAAAAAAADVY/_Ac7ce5N2DY/PharoahSanders_Pharoah.jpg

matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

Hmmm, the image was there for a second. Anyway, it was Pharoah Sanders' "Pharoah" album (aka Harvest Time). It has lovely cover art too.

matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:14 (eleven years ago) link

Okay maybe I made up that "(aka Harvest Time)" part. Anyway, I'll be quiet now.

matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

Except to say that it can be heard here: http://myjazzworld.blogspot.com/2008/10/pharoah-sanders-pharoah.html

matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

Nice, I've never heard this album

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

hey! this one hasn't been mentioned yet: Van Morrison's Common One! It opens and closes with a Silent Way tribute pretty much. Great album, by the way, maybe one of Van's most underappreciated? Maybe just underappreciated by me -- hadn't heard it til recently. I also heard some of the Necks, and yeah, they are rad too.

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

found a good selection for this thread, purchased on a whim this weekend:

herbie mann - the stone flute

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm181/karl_ktarn/3-34.jpg

here's a review i found online:

A startlingly original departure from the trademark soul-jazz sound of Herbie Mann, this spacious and atmospheric 1970 recording flows within the vein of Miles Davis' Bitches Brew-era explorations. Throughout the record, Mann's flute floats in and out over sparse string arrangements, a light and airy gust of psychedelic bliss. The album opens with the exotic Eastern sounds of "In Tangier," arranged with unmistakable references to the original version recorded by 60s pop-icon Donovan on Hurdy Gurdy Man. Violins, viola and cello are all used to create a feeling of sailing through the celestial ether in a stoned state of mind. The second track is a rare cover of "Flying," the spaced-out Beatles instrumental from The Magical Mystery Tour, which Mann manages to recreate with an even more hallucinatory vibe. "Miss Free Spirit" is a strongly avant-garde affair, held together by Miroslav Vitous (soon to join Weather Report), who keeps things grooving along with just the right amount of restraint. Vibraphonist Roy Ayers showcases his bold imagination and technical prowess as a forward-thinking jazz player, a talent that would soon be suppressed as his commercial funk persona took over in the 70s. A major highlight is guitarist Sonny Sharrock's solo on "Miss Free Spirit," which makes a strong case for why Miles Davis recruited him to play (albeit uncredited) later that year on the epic Jack Johnson soundtrack. This is a totally unique Herbie Mann record, a must for fans of late 60s and early 70s fusion experiments of the highest caliber.
---John Ballon (email)

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

The Tortoise thread revive made me go hunt down Jeff Parker's solo records, and they would fit the bill here.

WmC, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

"almost makes up for all those horrid weather report albums dude did...almost."

why hate? they put out some wonderful dreamy stuff. i remember hearing weather report for the first time expecting some bleating prog fusion stuff and i couldn't believe how ambientmellowpretty it was. (long time ago. first album with airto.)

scott seward, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

i just don't like 'em i guess. i have a couple...heavy weather..and something else...

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

While admitting that I probably have no idea what I'm talking about, doesn't some Jon Hassell have the same vibe?

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

the earlier pre-jaco weather report stuff is different than the later stuff like heavy weather though. i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.

scott seward, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

i think i only have jaco type stuff. the way all the instruments sound on the two i have really bothers me....it gets my inner rockist/jazzist all up in arms.

the zawinul album i was talking about upthread is probably my favorite record i've bought this year so maybe i should check it out.

anyway i don't wanna be a negative nelly and distract peeps from peepin that herbie mann record, it's great!

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

have to say thanks again on this thread for the Necks reccs! Eeeyowch, they are incredible.

tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

this album is like son of silent way: maybe a little funkier.

http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/1/10/albumcoverEddieHenderson-Sunburst.jpg

m coleman, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.

― scott seward, Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:21 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark

live in tokyo is a GREAT record

69, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

Why was Sunn 0)))'s "Alice" from their last album (Monoliths & Dimensions) never added to this thread? Anyway, adding it now. ;-)))

Lostandfound, Saturday, 19 September 2009 02:30 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

In light of this - http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/miles-davis-in-a-silent-way-round-21-nicks-choice/ - I'm thinking I might pursue a few more of these soundalikes.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:52 (eight years ago) link

David Behrman - On the Other Ocean

bidfurd, Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:48 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGLg_d_0UDE

doug watson, Sunday, 9 February 2014 16:19 (six years ago) link

Always thought this was a shameless ripoff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xs4ddoxPtc

Austin, Monday, 10 February 2014 01:45 (six years ago) link

Post Up Your Mixtapes 2014

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2014 01:49 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

garrett list's your own self is giving me a bit of an in a silent way fed through minimalism vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJaLBtbhWs

cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 28 March 2015 16:17 (five years ago) link

The first two Weather Report albums with Miroslav Vitous on bass definitely fit in the Bitches Brew/In A Silent Way axis points.

There are other tunes later on in Weather Reports records that get into that area too.

earlnash, Saturday, 28 March 2015 17:15 (five years ago) link

that garrett list is really hitting the spot. thanks!

who is dankey kang (Karl Malone), Saturday, 28 March 2015 18:13 (five years ago) link

^^^ That Garrett List recording is spectacular indeed. Reminds me of Pharoah Sanders' Let Us Go Into The House Of The Lord. Pretty hard to buy though, it seems :(

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Sunday, 29 March 2015 00:21 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

this was mentioned upthread but wow this is similar and really good

http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/2/23/albumcoverJohnAbercrombie-Timeless.jpg?1203727973

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:34 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Van Morrison's 'When Heart is Open', mentioned by Tyler upthread, is very good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-RiXhzz6M

Austin, Friday, 1 July 2016 04:33 (four years ago) link

8 years and no mention of Les McCann's Invitation to Openness?! It kind of slips into a Silent Way parody at times but it's a lovely warm listen,

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 07:17 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqYkosktnmg

EvR, Friday, 1 July 2016 07:24 (four years ago) link

Mercury rev played Ssh/Peaceful live, not sure how frequently, but it did make it onto Lego My Ego as part of a medley with Very Sleepy Rivers.

Stevolende, Friday, 1 July 2016 09:25 (four years ago) link

Thanks for the Paul Schutze recommendation - very much enjoying Apart.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:18 (four years ago) link

you guys check this one out yet?
https://schlarb.bandcamp.com/album/plays-music-for-airports

tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:19 (four years ago) link

I listened just the other day. Hmm. I think I like the first track, but I sort of lost interest (I know this is part of the point). What did you think?
I think I prefer the Bang On A Can version.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:24 (four years ago) link

i thought they pulled it off nicely -- obviously very much "let's do music for airports like in a silent way" but i dig it.

tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:25 (four years ago) link

I'm not super familiar with Music For Airports - own it, rarely listen to it - but that Psychic Temple version is VERY Silent Way. Nice.

Didn't Eno say his idea of ambient music came from listening to He Loved Him Madly from Get Up With It at semi audible volume as he lay in bed ill?
So some echoes of Miles might be likely.

Stevolende, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:43 (four years ago) link

It’s early 1975, and Brian Eno strains to hear the recording of 18th century harp music a friend has given him.

Eno is in recovery after being hit by a car and can barely get out of bed. After putting the record on with great difficulty and lying back down, he notices the volume is too low, and that one channel on his stereo is blown.

The sheer pain of moving forces him to listen to the record at a volume that barely eclipses the background sound of the room around it.

eno talked about he loved him madly in the On Land liners:

When I was in Ghana, for instance, I took with me a stereo microphone and a cassette recorder, ostensibly to record indigenous music and speech patterns. What I sometimes found myself doing instead was sitting out on the patio in the evenings with the microphone placed to pick up the widest possible catchment of ambient sounds from all directions, and listening to the result on my headphones. The effect of this simple technological system was to cluster all the disparate sounds into one aural frame; they became music.

Listening this way, I realised I had been moving towards a music that had this feeling; as the listener, I wanted to be situated inside a large field of loosely-knit sound, rather than placed before a tightly organised monolith (or stereolith, for that matter). I wanted to open out the aural field, to put much of the sound a considerable distance from the listener (even locating some of it “out of earshot”), and to allow the sounds to live their lives separately from one another, clustering occasionally but not “musically” bound together. This gave rise to an interesting technical difficulty. Because recording studio technology and practice developed in relation to performed music, the trend of that development has been towards greater proximity, tighter and more coherent meshing of sounds with one another. Shortly after I returned from Ghana, Robert Quine gave me a copy of Miles Davis’ “He Loved Him Madly”. Teo Macero’s revolutionary production on that piece seemed to me to have the “spacious” quality I was after, and like “Amarcord”, it too became a touchstone to which I returned frequently.

tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 17:26 (four years ago) link

Always thought Talk Talk's last two albums have a heavy In A Silent Way vibe.

And then there's this... incredible Finnish spiritual jazz from the early 80s.

https://soundcloud.com/arclighteditions/jone-takamaki-trio-bhupala-i-ale003

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 1 July 2016 18:12 (four years ago) link

was he talking about the fellini movie there or referencing some piece of music I'm unaware of?

akm, Friday, 1 July 2016 18:15 (four years ago) link

yeah the fellini film
In using the term landscape I am thinking of places, times, climates and the moods that they evoke. And of expanded moments of memory too… One of the inspirations for this record was Fellini’s “Amarcord” (“I Remember”), a presumably unfaithful reconstruction of childhood moments. Watching that film, I imagined an aural counterpart to it, and that became one of the threads woven into the fabric of the music.
here's the whole essay: http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=614

tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 18:29 (four years ago) link

this year's "blackened cities" by melanie de biasio definitely has that sound going on.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 July 2016 02:48 (four years ago) link

This thread is livid with great recommendations - cheers for the de Biasio heads up rushomancy, great stuff.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Saturday, 2 July 2016 08:45 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

8 years and no mention of Les McCann's Invitation to Openness?! It kind of slips into a Silent Way parody at times but it's a lovely warm listen,

― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, July 1, 2016 12:17 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this rules

brimstead, Saturday, 21 October 2017 00:47 (two years ago) link

wendell harrison's "an evening with the devil" (1972) definitely belongs here. check the passage that kicks in around 6 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTEVljdZnHY

a lot of don cherry's '70s stuff fits here, too. particularly the passage that begins about 3 minutes into "chenrezig" from the "brown rice" album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS8PK53DYGA

and also pretty much the entire terry riley / don cherry collaboration from 1975. cherry's horn comes in at around 3m40s and it is wonderful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6449e2LsUI

and then also maybe some of that later bill dixon stuff where he's sort of doing this drone thing and there's a lot of reverb.

and the last track on this chico freeman record. starts around 30 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0hESHyPZI0

budo jeru, Friday, 27 October 2017 04:08 (two years ago) link

several of the tracks on Big Fun remind me of IASW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UT3qeqzejI

Brad C., Friday, 27 October 2017 12:52 (two years ago) link

Recollections (from the extended version is a reworking of Ssh/Peaceful, innit? Either way, it's a miracle.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 27 October 2017 13:29 (two years ago) link

i stupidly have never checked out Big Fun because I figured it'd be full of the harsh side of things, i'm one of those sad folks who can't really hang with super-out-there 70s miles

brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 15:41 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hL_7b1sf-k

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 16:11 (two years ago) link

i stupidly have never checked out Big Fun because I figured it'd be full of the harsh side of things, i'm one of those sad folks who can't really hang with super-out-there 70s miles

No, it's exactly the opposite, except for "Go Ahead John." The other tracks are all on the In a Silent Way/Side Two-of-A Tribute to Jack Johnson spectrum. "Ife" is practically ambient dub.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 27 October 2017 16:46 (two years ago) link

yeah — the wild/intense stuff is maybe what's best known from Miles' 1970s, but even things like Agharta have moments that are just beautiful.

tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:49 (two years ago) link

right on! i'll check it out tonight

yeah tbh i've meant to dig into the other stuff, it just all seems so daunting and massive.

brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:58 (two years ago) link

yeah, not to say there isn't plenty of "out" playing and general freakiness, but especially in 74-75, I've found a bunch of subtler/gentler stuff creeping into the live shows.

tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:08 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnnBifdSbqA

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 17:29 (two years ago) link

^ Oof, tasty. Kind of Sextant + IASW, in 15/8/time!

This Circle feat. Verde album sounds like a meditation on IASW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEnzGI_vXBQ

Noel Emits, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:46 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Heard Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay for the first time last night through a friend's really nice sound system, and it was spectacular and in a similarly silent way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9aGUom3Bk

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:04 (two years ago) link

I really like the version of that song on the CTI Allstars California concert lp played by the stripped down band
Freddie Hubbard (trumpet), Stanley Turrentine (tenor saxophone), George Benson (guitar), Johnny Hammond (keyboards), Ron Carter (upright bass), Billy Cobham (drums), Airto Moreira (percussion).

Stevolende, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 20:34 (two years ago) link

Title track of Red Clay is still one of my fave CTI jams

doug watson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:06 (two years ago) link

A friend gave me Red Clay on vinyl a few years back; I played it once and filed it away. I'm listening to it now via the link above and it's better than I remember. Doesn't have IASW's languid spaciness, though.

Supporters Fear Dan's Post Will Lack The Edge They Love (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:34 (two years ago) link

that mal waldron track upthread is radical. annoying that copies of that record are so pricey (appears to be on spotify though).

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 22:13 (two years ago) link

was gonna mention that julian priester "love,love" embedded above - what an extraordinary cut (side one esp but both are huge)

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:38 (two years ago) link

The Call by Mal Waldron is so excellent, and I think sadly it's his only material where he plays electric piano.

calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:42 (two years ago) link

If anyone needs another hot version of Red Clay (and truthfully they're all pretty hot) - Freddie & Joe Henderson guest on Charles Earland's 'Leaving This Planet' and it rips. About a decade later there's a Hubbard LP titled Classics that has Henderson again along with Bobby Hutcherson and it's choice. Well worth seeking.

As for the thread topic I would second The Jewel In The Lotus. Just a great, great record.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 02:57 (two years ago) link

Red Clay and Straight Life are both excellent albums; so is Stanley Turrentine's Sugar, which also has Hubbard, Benson, and Carter, plus Lonnie Liston Smith on keyboards.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:10 (two years ago) link

damn is there a CTI thread? every time I get a CTI rec it sends me down a smooth, big budget rabbit hole

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:12 (two years ago) link

This whole album is beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huurRUUBl7M

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:14 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGaxJ3glLo

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:16 (two years ago) link

Think Benny Maupin's "Jewel in the Lotus" is pretty reminiscent and has other Miles veterans besides himself playing on it (H. Hancock; Buster Williams; Billy Hart etc.).

ellaguru, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:29 (two years ago) link

that Harvest Time by Sanders upthread is spectacular

niels, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:04 (two years ago) link

Great record, one of his best. Too bad it’s so scarce without a legit reissue.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:15 (two years ago) link

So much great stuff in this thread. I'd add that many versions of "Dark Star" played by the Grateful Dead in 1973 and 74 give off strong "Shh/Peaceful" vibes with their mellow fusion-oriented improv in the mixolydian mode and Keith Godchaux on Fender Rhodes.

Prime example from 8/1/73:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsoDMEXFXM

J. Sam, Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:38 (two years ago) link

Is there a Godwin's for Grateful Dead? :)

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:36 (two years ago) link

Radiohead seem to have some sounds lifted from Miles electric era particularly from In A Silent Way/Bitches Brew. E.g Trumpet line in “Bloom”, electric keyboards in “Subterranean Homesick alien”, Kinetic even samples Miles Davis iirc... they seem to like Miles Davis and Mingus a lot (but then again who doesn’t?)... can’t think of any more specific examples but there’s some textures and production choices from OKC onwards which seem to be sprinkled with influeces from Miles’ electric era.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:31 (two years ago) link

Shuggie Otis (this was a bonus track on the Luaka Bop reissue of Inspiration Information) Freedom Flight is def in the silent way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7iWxvl6sY

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 February 2018 23:19 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

don't think this has been mentioned yet, Idris Muhammed "Peace"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls0nFVV58Xg

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:54 (two years ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/track/0yFSGJ79Id2e1EENqmVeWA
A.D. Buchanan's Armchair Gospel from Danish trumpet player Jacob Buchanan fits - featuring Jakob Bro on guitar and Marilyn Mazur (who played with Miles) on drums

such a jam

niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:10 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Another one not named: Terje Rypdal's song Ghostdancing is almost surely an homage (and has hints of Pharaoh's Dance).

Pataphysician, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:53 (one year ago) link

Excellent UK post-jazz band Dinosaur's latest album has some great Silent Way type moments on it. I recommend. I also recommend their more immediate previous album

https://i2.wp.com/www.birdistheworm.com/wp-content/uploads/Dinosaur-Wonder-Trail.jpg?fit=355%2C355&ssl=1

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 08:44 (one year ago) link

^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:07 (one year ago) link

They're very nice people though and come across very lovely on stage

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:23 (one year ago) link

^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.

where are the former members of jefferson airplane when you need them?

canary christ (stevie), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:34 (one year ago) link

I can't tell who's joking or what but isn't that 60/70s band the reason that Dinosaur Jr had to add the "Jr"?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:35 (one year ago) link

oh wow never mind I looked it up so this is another new band haha I'd never seen the original 60s one and that cover could be from whenever

so they'll be Dinosaur Jr Jr

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:38 (one year ago) link

I always take a token brit-jazz Mercury prize nom as an indelible stain on a band's character, much more than whatever the heck their bloody name is!

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 12:57 (one year ago) link

The Dinosaurs were ex members of several ballroom scene SF bands at least one of whom had legal training and sued the Amherst band over use of their name,. I think that was after the 2nd lp, & they actually played in London under the original non-augmented name at the end of 87.
Surprised me that this jazz band could come along and use the name without comment but maybe the people who brought the late 80s lawsuit are retired or dead

Stevolende, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:03 (one year ago) link

Dinosaur UK?

doug watson, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:35 (one year ago) link

this is why the arthur russell project became "dinosaur l", right?

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 24 August 2018 13:44 (one year ago) link

Sanctuary from Bitches Brew sounds a good deal like ISW.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 24 August 2018 17:09 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

"Nowhere" by Bob Moses (recorded in 1967-68 but shelved until 2003) gives off strong proto-IaSW vibes. shame it doesn't continue for another 15 or 20 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdnqcOwMjb0

nothing in the dialog (unregistered), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:38 (seven months ago) link

four months pass...

this track by Luis Gasca starts off sounding like IASW rip, the rest of the album, For Those Who Chant, has other stuff going on (Carlos Santana, chanting etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVMV2VyiKr4

mizzell, Thursday, 14 May 2020 21:56 (two months ago) link

I love that album. The personnel is amazing: Gasca on trumpet, Joe Henderson on tenor sax, Hadley Caliman on flute, Carlos Santana and Neal Schon on guitars, Richard Kermode on organ, George Cables, Gregg Rolie and Mark Levine on piano and/or electric piano, José "Chepito" Areas on vibes, Stanley Clarke on bass, Lenny White and Michael Shrieve on drums, Carmelo Garcia and Coke Escovedo on timbales, Mike Carabello and Victor Pantoja on congas, and Garnette Mims, Joan MacGregor, Rico Reyes, and Snooky Flowers on other percussion.

It's only ever been released on CD once, in Japan, and the prices on Discogs are far more than I'm willing to pay.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 May 2020 22:19 (two months ago) link

Brand-new music from Anthony Nemet, who's collaborated a bunch with Meg from U.S. Girls and her husband Max Turnbull--this is In A Supersilent Way, but IMO he nails it, maybe uncannily so but man I love this sound (another band from here in Toronto that I'd also recommend to folks, who are friends of/peers with Anthony but come from the Soft Machine/prog end of jazz fusion, would be Zacht Automaat):

https://tonypriceto.bandcamp.com/album/interview-discount

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:02 (two months ago) link

lol, “Zacht Automaat” looks like a failed English-to-Dutch translation of “Soft Machine” (correct would be “Zachte Automaat”)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:07 (two months ago) link

It is--the bandleader, Carl Didur, is a huge Softs fan

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 23:44 (two months ago) link

this tony price record is crazy

is he sampling or did he actually manage to get a band to sound like this or is it both ?

budo jeru, Friday, 22 May 2020 03:17 (two months ago) link

He has good/interesting horn players on the session (Daniel Pencer on bass clarinet plays live with Andy Shauf; Andy Haas on sax was in Martha & The Muffins early on and now plays in the Cosmic Range), which helps IMO, and obv treated the sounds (electric keys, etc.) for max Teology

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Friday, 22 May 2020 03:39 (two months ago) link

https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2020/05/26/tune-in-zone-out-silent-ways/

tylerw, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:52 (two months ago) link


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