Full disclosure: I hate war. But I love militaristic drumming. You know what I mean, when the drummer gets all seriously metronomic in a tribal/marching band/"where's the fife?" kinda way. Right now, I'm locked into Alice Cooper's "Second Coming". What are your faves?
SOUND OFF!
― henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Welcome to the Black Parade was the first that came to my mind. I am sure there are many better ones.
― our work is never over, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
XTC "President Kill" Bee Gees "I'm Off to Join the Air Force"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Sparks "Get in the Swing" Funkadelic "Uncle Jam's Army", "Field Maneuvers"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Destiny's Child, "Lose My Breath" Missy Elliot, "Bad Man" all those marching band cadence beats.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
U2 to thread. Oh wait.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Earl Palmer, Idrid Muhammad and anybody from New Orleans to thread.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Yello - Bostich Fleetwood Mac - TUSK
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Han Bennink to thread.
I was coming to mention Bostitch.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
the Jam, "Little Boy Soldiers" Gang of Four, "Armalite Rifle" Edwin Starr, "War" the Who, "Heinz Baked Beans"
― Standing In The Shadows Of Bob, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link
haha, Han Bennink OTM
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/italy/gallery/neri/hanbennink06clusone.jpg In Europe, there are two very important schools of drumming and they relate to the army. That's the Swiss Army and the Scottish army. It's the Black Watch in Scotland and the Basel Drum School
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
from here
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
"Johnny Was" by the Stiff Little Fingers
― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
it'll be interesting to let the selections accrue for a bit, and then see what percentage of the songs have nothing to do with war/the military or, um, baked beans...
― henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
CRASS
― Ivan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm sorry...you're right, it was in bad taste for me to bring baked beans into the discuss-
oh, you mean the band!...sorry...
― henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
There was some tortured argument in Peter Shapiro's Turn The Beat Around about how it was hypocritical of funk drummers to look down on disco drummers for being mechanical since somehow the logical reductio ad absurdium ideal of such drumming, with its origin in martial, second-line parade beats, was to be as mechanical as possible, but this argument never got off the ground with me.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost Hey it happens!
I guess I should cite specific examples. A good chunk of their first album, The Feeding of the 5000 has that militaristic drumming down pat. And Rimbaud has this "rat-tat-a-tat-a" drum fill in almost EVERY Crass song.
― Ivan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
second line beats /= military drumming. as i understand it, it's basically what happened to the euro military style after meeting afro-cuban influences in new orleans.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Proceeding from there, The Ex, Dog Faced Hermans, etc.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Tommy gun- the clash and that new M.I.A track that samples "Straight to Hell", forget title
― outdoor_miner, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
second line beats /= military drumming. as i understand it, it's basically what happened to the euro military style after meeting afro-cuban influences in new orleans. Yeah, that's a good point. Earl Palmer and Idris away from thread.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link
David Holmes - No Man's Land
― Kaliova, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Grateful Dead-St. Stephen. The version on Live/Dead
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Outkast - Morris Brown
― chap, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
U2 to thread. And I think probably Big Country and The Alarm as well.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Funkadelic "Uncle Jam's Army", "Field Maneuvers"
-- Shakey Mo Collier
...and "March To The Witch's Castle"
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Trying to resist posting just anything with a snare drum: Dave Clark Five, "Rain," etc.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
But I think this fits: http://www.qualityrecords.lavalink.com.au/category/Audiophile%20News_files/mobley%20roll%20call.jpg
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Jefferson Airplane "White Rabbit"
and there's a song on Mayhem's Grand Declaration of War that has some crazy fast marches...
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link
50 ways to leave your lover - -
The Doodletown Fifers
You Pulled me UP - talking heads
― Latham Green, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Othar Turner
― Jordan, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Vitalic - Fanfares
― Alba, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
The Pretty Things - Provate Sorrow
― Lolpez, Thursday, 7 February 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
'no closure', piano magic
― akm, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Does Yello's "Bostich" really have "militaristic drumming"? It heavily features the snare drum, sure, but the beat is actually quite complex, not metronomic/march-like at all.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link
maybe just the intro, after that it's straight disco, right?
― Jordan, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Kyuss-"Supa Scoopa and Mighty Scoop"
― C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
portishead - mysteron
― ledge, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Jack Bruce - "The Clearout"
― Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
not the full song, but "Baby Wants To Ride" (Frankie Knuckles/Jamie Principle) has that neat lil' rat-a-tat-tat break...("America!...clap your hands...I thought we loved each other...do you feel free?")
― henry s, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Last night I remembered that story about when Miles Davis wanted Tony Williams to go heavy on the snare he told him "play that 'Rat Patrol' stuff."
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
To tell the truth, I don't know what exactly Tony was supposed to play to get that "Rat Patrol" sound, but it sure sounds like it should be militaristic.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I always thought the end part of "Hunted" by Pale Saints was kind of militaristic, especially those snare rolls. But it's in 5/4 which makes it a bit of a bummer to dance to.
― Rob M v2, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I was just wondering if any of those twee Sarah bands ever employed militaristic drumming, 'cos wouldn't that be a contrast...Pale Saints come pretty close...
― henry s, Thursday, 7 February 2008 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link