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no, not the erstwhile Walker Brother, but rather the Ariel Pink/Panda Bear collaborator...his new LP, Love Is Real is a somnambulant stumble through the late Joy Division/early New Order catalogue, in equal parts both homage and parody...damn compelling...

anybody else feeling this shit?

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 15:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Already I'm really sorry that this isn't the erstwhile John Walker.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 15:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So, if this guy had met Scott Walker....

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 15:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Scott's a hip chappie; I'm sure he's very familiar with the Pink/Panda oeuvre...

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I love this album. Really, really creepy. "My Whole World is Coming Apart" is great.

I kind of wish "Rights for Gays" wasn't on it even though it's one of the catchier songs and I'm sure he's sincere. It plays a little too much like a novelty song I think. But the rest of it is really excellent.

There's some other element besides Joy Divis./N.O. but I can't really put my finger on it... it's almost Italo-y in some parts I guess, but I don't think that's it.

Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I want to say there's a dash of Arthur Russell here and there, but pretty much everything these days is said to have a dash of Arthur Russell in it...

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

a few more comments here

I love the whole album, but "Do Your Best" is the one.

Z S, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

thx, and shame on me for not searching...

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Right, who's up tomorrow in the "not that one" artist list? Yesterday was f/5ive...

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 16:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

this guy!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61GH2KN4C9L._AA240_.jpg

henry s, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 17:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Listening now and I love what I'm hearing. Yeah, its pretty fucked in a good way. Haunting vocals, 80's art damaged keyboards, like taking a bunch of downers and trying to make a skewed version of what you remembered late-night movie soundtracks sounded like. I agree "Best" is the one.

oscar, Saturday, 16 February 2008 06:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Haha. I found that Bobby Brown record in a dollar bin !

oscar, Saturday, 16 February 2008 06:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Rights for Gays" is awesome but when John Maus sings it sounds like a Ween song that you and your long lost friend have an inside joke with.

Z S, Saturday, 16 February 2008 07:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

saw him last nite. the man is psychotic. he makes music for lonely folks. only for the faint of heart.

oscar, Saturday, 29 March 2008 21:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i love the music, but the vocals sounds like if the big horned tim curry demon from legend had his own bedroom pop project

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 21:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Really loving this lately.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 19:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

just wanted to bump this thread to say that love is real is one of my absolute faves of 2007/8 and it's sad it'll never get any poll luvv.

the vocals sounds like if the big horned tim curry demon from legend had his own bedroom pop project

how could you not want to check it out after reading that though?

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Friday, 13 February 2009 09:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I never really liked this dude but today this album was playing when I woke up from a nap and it all clicked and now I think this guy is incredible

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 24 September 2010 21:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sex with god/sex on top of god

filthy dylan, Friday, 24 September 2010 23:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

don't know anything but love is real, but prefer that to most ariel pink

"my whole world is coming apart" for all time

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 24 September 2010 23:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sex in car/Sex with Ringo Starr...genius...

sonnyboy, Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

would love some new stuff from him

oscar, Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

bow bow bow bow bowww

patapon pataphysics (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 25 September 2010 10:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

No love for "Quantum Leap"? The squiggly synth freakout about two minutes in, the awful/brilliant lyrics that really are about the TV show, anything?

http://www.ribbonmusic.com/label/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/WeMustBecomeThePitilessweb1.jpg

My second most anticipated album of the year just behind Gang Gang Dance, I think...

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Sunday, 6 March 2011 22:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Didn't know a new song was out
I was thinking yesterday about how John Maus was probably my favourite musician living in Hawaii
I have no idea why I ever thought he was living there

Odult Ariented Rock (Ówen P.), Monday, 7 March 2011 00:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought he lived there too. don't know where i got that tho

dynamicinterface, Monday, 7 March 2011 01:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Maus lectures political philosophy at the University in Manoa.

Didn't know new work was on the way, excited!

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 March 2011 08:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMku-GbafEg

like.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 23 April 2011 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

also like

love his sound, though the songs are sometimes only halfway there

merked, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sounds a bit like Shocking Pinks. That start bit I mean.

Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 03:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

This has leaked, and it is glorious.

He expanded his sound so much on the new record. I stayed away from all the songs that were floating around the web already in live/demo versions, so it's all fresh to my ears. It's way less dense and galling a sound than the previous album. There's more room for fizzy frivolities, both synth and vocal wise. There's colorful backing vocals, This is still John Maus, mind, there's no 'wall of sound' all of a sudden, but there's so much more space in the sound. I can't describe it any other way. He's broadened his audio-scope for sure.

'Hey Moon' immediately stands out as an alternate-universe lullaby/love-song classic, warm glowing piano sounds tickled by metallic lo-fi beats he's got a patent on, a high pitched synth line swirling through the song coyly. And there's so much going on on this record, so much to discover and drop your jaw at. Wow.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

'Matter of Fact' and 'Believer' instant faves too. Esp the latter, which chorus really reminds me of an eighties hit, but I can't for the life of me figure out which one.

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's just 10,000th 80s choruses

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Can't wait to listen!

Z S, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, good album. Interviewing the guy tomorrow, anyone want me to ask him anything?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

Really enjoying the new album, as I said above.

Ned, I don't so much have a direct question, but I do wonder about his recording process. I believe he's still a philosophy professor, no? Does he pick a period to retreat in a home studio and write and record the album, or is it something that comes together over a long period of time, when he's got some spare time?
Not a real question but I'd be interested to learn more about this.

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 08:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Could be fun! I'll ask and see.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fun interview! Dude talks mile a minute but I like it!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

PUSSY IS NOT A MATTER OF FACT

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

the last show I saw of his, his performance was pretty eclipsed by geneva jacuzzi's

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

funny that geneva jacuzzi hasn't really blown up yet in any way I know of and the last show I went to, one of the acts was a clone of hers

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

xp Was she wearing mime makeup?

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

The forthcoming tour will allow for compare/contrast again there -- he was also talking about how he's looking forward to playing with Puro again, loved them at the SXSW shows they did.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah her face was all made up

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Did you get to discuss the recording process, his working ways? And if you don't mind me asking, for which publication are you writing this interview?

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Great record, kicking myself for not seeing him live when he played round here 6 months back.

Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

just want to say that jacuzzi is a must see live imo

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

saw her years ago and she was rolling on the floor screaming in sparkly clothes while a bunch of strobe lights went off and now she has like a whole fuckin stage performance, like she is a real live performer

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

But she's just a cdr performer. I would've been happy to see her when she came to town a couple weeks ago, but they doubled the ticket price from $10 to $20 ($7 for preorders).

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, it was dance music and nobody was dancing. Trite complaint, I know, but I felt a little like dancing at the time.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

man I didn't even mention the prerecorded aspect of it because I've just seen so many performances like that and was so happy to see one that was good

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

but yeah you made the right call $20 is way too expensive for her

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Did you get to discuss the recording process, his working ways? And if you don't mind me asking, for which publication are you writing this interview?

I did, and you'll find out more when the piece runs next week in the OC Weekly. :-D (In brief, it's very much an on the fly thing.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maus/Puro playing in LA when I'm in town, I think the Echo.

joyless shithead (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Great Ned! :-) Looking forward to it!

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that lineup's playing earlier that week in Costa Mesa (thus the story).

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, interview up at the Quietus:

http://thequietus.com/articles/06499-john-maus-interview

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 July 2011 15:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, good album. Interviewing the guy tomorrow, anyone want me to ask him anything?

man do i regret not reading this thread last week! i didnt have the record until this wknd tho...

google butt (Lamp), Monday, 4 July 2011 19:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

This is a great record, I want to write more but my thoughts are mostly about "degradation" plug-ins, mastering to VHS, "Is this chillwave and what does liking it say about a man" etc.

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 01:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Is this chillwave and what does liking it say about a man"

hope it says good things!

Z S, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 03:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah this is the sorta record that tempts you into writing/saying a bunch of grandiose garbage about it, mb? it also feels like the sorta thing that i might be embarrassed about liking cuz its so pseud-friendly

my thoughts are mostly like: '...'

Lamp, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 05:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of worried about attending to it in too much depth.

Would love to see him live.. there's a great YT of him doing 'Matter Of Fact' in Paris, he looks like he gets into it.

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 10:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Absolutely not making any grand theoretical statements about it, but... it is undeniable that it is a fucking great record.

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

It is a great record! Also thx this record for alerting me to the existence of Molly Nilsson, since "Hey Moon" was the track to leap out at me on the first few listens.

sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

That is the first one that jumped out at me, as well.
Molly Nilsson, eh? Any relation?

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

The grand theoretical statements about this record are wildly offputting.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Probably so (ditto Ford & Lopatin), but the record IS pretty great. As is, of course, the Ford & Lopatin thing.

henry s, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hooray my interview. (Euclidean thoughts? Not my headline!)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 22:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Nice piece, Ned! And you indeed get him to talk about what he sees as the "artist's process", the unveiling of artistic work.

It does read as if you could've written an article four times as long!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 July 2011 22:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hahah I could well have done. But wordcounts are wordcounts!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 01:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's not a bad headline! I thought it was gonna be "The Maus That Floored...Me" or something like that.

henry s, Friday, 8 July 2011 01:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Every interview I read with that guy he's so Tragic and Heavy I LOVE IT

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 02:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

He actually sounded pretty exuberant! If intense.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 02:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/click-track/post/in-concert-john-maus-at-black-cat/2011/07/06/gIQAInK50H_blog.html

Washington Post writer hates the live show
an excerpt:

A number of questions run through your mind during a John Maus concert.

What's he saying? Is he being serious? Is he okay? Isn't this a Kajagoogoo song? Who told that kid dancing up front that was an acceptable haircut?

But one question comes up more than any other — what's the point?

When Maus performs, as he did Tuesday at the Black Cat's backstage, it's like '80s karaoke night minus the hits — plus a hint of crazy. For 25 minutes the 31-year-old electronic music composer stalked the stage, leaped into the air, pulled his hair and howled along to his pre-recorded music that sounded like the third generation audio cassette dub of a long-forgotten new wave band. The way he shouted, flexed and bulged his eyes you half expected his skin to turn green and for him to transform into The Incredible Maus.

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 July 2011 12:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sounds like a review of mid-2000s Ariel Pink

Z S, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

All week I've been planning on picking this up after wory today, but now that BNM is going to mean it'll be sold out if they didn't order enough copies. Thats really my only beef with Pitchfork.

I've been a little lukewarm on his stuff prior to this album, but "Cop Killer" and all the iTunes samples I've heard make this sound like pretty much the perfect fit for my ears in 2011.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've never seen him live, but the pics at that Washington Post link are pretty hilarious.

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

(to be fair, there are tons of bands I love where live pics of them wouldn't do any justice to how intense the shows can actually be)

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hmm. Do people really have a problem with "Rights For Gays"? I'm surprised that people would write it off as a piss-take.

John's live show reminds me of the live shows of other people I know who also went to CalArts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLpadyo9cFw

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

When I saw him last, his laptop was screwing up with the playback and he shook it and pounded it, in character, 'til it fixed itself. I love this guy.

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pfork article also singles out the gorgeous (imo) "Tenebrae" as a misstep.

Trip Maker, Friday, 8 July 2011 15:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Although I disagree with some people who see "Rights For Gays" and "Tenebrae" as missteps, or others who say "Cop Killer" or "Matter Of Fact" are missteps... there's something about John's ironic approach to lyric writing-- real, literate irony, the duality of meaning etc., not 'moustache on a trucker hat' irony-- that kind of makes these differences of opinion a non-issue? I mean, I feel like the unimpeachable pop hit "Believer" is in fact unsophisticated in comparison, but I am cool with the fact that somebody would prefer John Maus when he's singing about Jackie Chan instead of riskier stuff

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 15:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

When I find nothing redeeming in 90% of an album's content I will usually, out of something like sportsmanship, at least entertain the hypothesis that I just didn't get it. In this case, I can't bring myself to care. There's obviously some kind of art-school mindfuckery afoot here, and I suspect that Maus aspires to some meta-theoretical point on the level of "But really, what is music anyway?" And maybe reality is just the hallucination of a five-dimensional computerized intelligence! Generous guy that I am, I'll concede that We Must Become the Pitiless Censors of Ourselves does, on some level, constitute music. Really shitty music.

I just...

There's obviously some kind of art-school mindfuckery afoot here I mean seriously, dude, what? How cynical must one have become to even think this is "obviously" what is going on? Critic in completely-not-getting-it and not-being-able-to-detect-earnestness-and-sincere-music-so-it-must-be-mindfuckery shocker...

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

What a piece of shit that review, gah. Can't get over it.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

The "writer" weighs in in the comments there, saying: "Consider this a satire on an unlikely and undeserving cult hero."

Right.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Stopped reading at this piece of shit opinion: "The Walker Brothers produced little memorable music as a unit"

emil.y, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 12:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

I know, so so wrong.

What a waste of bytes and time that review is, christ. It is unhealthily winding me up.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 13:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

loved this dude last time I saw him

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

chillwave klaus kinski

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm all about this album

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/tv/#/1/1730-john-maus/2784-live-at-glasslands/

I love this guy so much. Can't wait to see him live.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like him, but i really don't get the huge critical adoration. Maybe dude is just so successful with justifying his retro shtick with intellectual/performance theory word-games it gives writers a boner.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Though i love this

There's just something about a metal skeleton coming out of fire that's really poetic and just extraordinary

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Uh oh, I think I'm going to eat my own words with that 1st post.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mmm... It seems people who don't particularly get the critical acclaim always call it things like a "schtick", like you do as well. I don't think his music is a "schtick" at all. He's got a distinctive style, but why do people with John Maus call it a "schtick" so often? Most bands have a particular style but their sounds doesn't get called "schtick". Is it the retro sound that makes people think his music is a gimmick, tongue-in-cheek? I think he's completely sincere about his music.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

b/c lofi 80s appropriations are a schtick now? i think its pretty fair 2 say that what is distinctive about maus is his approach to publicity and interviews

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

i dont know anything about his interviews or publicity but his new album sounds like someone drowning in the deep end of chillwave, like dredging up the queasier elements.

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

that is, i like it

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

i can agree on characterizing dude as "queasy chillwave dredge"

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

chillwave klaus kinski

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:55 (3 days ago)

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

not an upbeat churl then

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

someone link me to one of these interviews

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

This album is SO good. I've had little wisps of almost every single song in my head almost constantly over the past week.

Clarke B., Saturday, 23 July 2011 18:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's pretty interesting to find myself muttering things like "cop killer, let's kill all the cops tonight, kill them" on the subway with my headphones on...

Clarke B., Saturday, 23 July 2011 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

ya that song is the best

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Saturday, 23 July 2011 19:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

the deal with John Maus is that his hooks are better & catchier than the hooks of people working a similar angle. love this guy

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 23 July 2011 20:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's pretty interesting to find myself muttering things like "cop killer, let's kill all the cops tonight, kill them" on the subway with my headphones on...
i find myself cringing at the lyrics -- especially this track. the sounds/melodies/hooks are so nice though.. the lyrics actually feel like total fluff. odd to see him rambling about conceptual stuff on youtube, considering this. i suppose the simplicity of it is interesting.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Saturday, 23 July 2011 20:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

are all of the female vocals on 'hey moon' samples? i was surprised by this fact.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Saturday, 23 July 2011 20:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fluff can be hard to do and nice to hear.

bamcquern, Saturday, 23 July 2011 20:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Female vocals on Hey Moon are by Molly Nilsson, the woman who wrote the song. Look a little upthread.

Trip Maker, Saturday, 23 July 2011 20:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ594IL_wyw

Trip Maker, Saturday, 23 July 2011 20:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

yah, thanks. i was curious if she actually sang (later) on the maus album track, or if her vocals were solely samples.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Saturday, 23 July 2011 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

Couldn't tell you

Trip Maker, Saturday, 23 July 2011 21:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Reviews are calling it a duet

Trip Maker, Saturday, 23 July 2011 21:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

I haven't even read much on this album but lol @ the critical reception of this vs. his earlier shit

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 23 July 2011 22:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

plz listen to my new album on spotify

http://bit.ly/n1ntjo (markers), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Mr. Le Bateau Ivre, will you take 'We Must Become The Pitiless Censors Of Ourselves', to be your man, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; and promise to be faithful until death parts you?"

"Hey Moon! Believer! I do!"

Keeps on opening up, this beaut. Way more than his previous album even, which I did not think was possible. Album of the year. I'm calling it.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 28 July 2011 21:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

I listened to this once very recently, and found it unlistenable for the most part. is it a grower?

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, 29 July 2011 11:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

*caveat: since discovering that King Creosote/Jon Hopkins collab nearly all new music sounds relatively unlistenable to me, so i might just be biased.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, 29 July 2011 11:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think it's rather unlikely for an album to be a 'grower' for you if your first verdict was unlistenable.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 29 July 2011 11:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

i will give it another go, but it just sounded like Ariel Pink with more synths. Maybe I'm missing the point.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, 29 July 2011 11:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

I must admit I’m not really feeling Pitiless Censors.

I understand what he’s trying to do – the notion of some scavenger from the future, stumbling upon this ancient, decaying mass called “eighties synthpop” and trying to wind it up back into life (at least I think that’s what he’s going for) – but alas the songs have no tunes, the overabundant echo (presumably there to mask vocal technical deficiencies) renders all of them lyrically incomprehensible, and the overall feeling is one of a Peter Murphy solo demo circa 1988.

People like DAM Funk and Oneohtrix Point Seven hover around the same territory but pull it off with much more style, humour and genuine boué.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 29 July 2011 12:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Marcello, my first take was much like yours, but then the melodies started to emerge from the reverbed morass after a few listens, and I began to be able to understand snippets of the vocals. Then a bit more, and then more. I actually find it to be highly tuneful, almost irritatingly so given how frequently I've had songs from the record in my head recently. For me, it's the definition of a grower (but it didn't take long to grow). I feel Oneohtrix is mining totally different territory, FWIW.

Clarke B., Friday, 29 July 2011 13:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, I am aware that I could just as well be talking about the Jesus and Mary Chain in 1985 as far as reverbed morass is concerned! Well, I'll give it a few months and see if it grows on me.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 29 July 2011 13:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

the overall feeling is one of a Peter Murphy solo demo circa 1988.

Ah, no wonder I love it!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Marcello summed it up perfectly for me. I'm getting to the end of my tether with things that have been so deliberately FX'd till all you hear is a smudge of a song. It worked for a while, and don't get me wrong, I love a bit of AC and Ariel Pink and it's good when people get creative with unorthodox production, but this is turning into a default aesthetic for so many underground artists. Just punching the "chillwave" button is a lazy excuse for poor execution. It's like that Baths album, which again I find unlistenable because it's been smothered with extreme compression and reverb.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

I feel you on that, but it doesn't destroy the record for me. I firmly believe, however, that this would be an unimpeachably great record even if it were recorded with the starkest clarity.

Clarke B., Friday, 29 July 2011 14:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Reviews are calling it a duet
― Trip Maker, Saturday, 23 July 2011 22:35 (6 days ago) Bookmark

Re: the Molly Nilsson - the liner notes on the CD say that the song "contains samples" of the song.

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 29 July 2011 14:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm not getting jm either but that molly nilsson cover/remix/whatev is gorg mostly due to molly nilsson I'm guessing

big RZA in my backyard (Edward III), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

sounds to me like he just sang over the original track and sweetened it up a bit

big RZA in my backyard (Edward III), Friday, 29 July 2011 14:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's like that Baths album, which again I find unlistenable because it's been smothered with extreme compression and reverb

the baths album is going for something totally different imo. the compression is of the rhythmic sidechain/flylo variety, and there is a ton of detail and clarity in the beats.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

now I want to listen to that baths album

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

sidechaining? sign me up

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just punching the "chillwave" button is a lazy excuse for poor execution

fwiw maus has been making great records very similar to this one since at least 2006, long before chillwave was a thing... doesn't this album fall more into the minimal wave revival stuff like xeno and oaklander way more than chillwave anyway?

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 29 July 2011 18:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

i mean idk how theyre selling it these days but i got into the last maus album at about the same time as i was buying every blank dogs 7" i could get my hands on. seems funny that critics are just now hopping on board and having to contextualize this stuff for 2011

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 29 July 2011 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just punching the "chillwave" button is a lazy excuse for poor execution

I'm sorry DL but just saying it is "chillwave" is a lazy excuse for being unable to explain why you dislike it. I mean, fair enough you don't like it, but John Maus = Chillwave? Seriously? No way.

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 29 July 2011 19:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

doesn't this album fall more into the minimal wave revival stuff like xeno and oaklander way more than chillwave anyway?

OTM... Less po-facedly serious and industrial-ish than lots of the Wierd Records stuff, but there's echoes of Martial Canterel, etc.

Clarke B., Friday, 29 July 2011 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fair enough folks, I know I certainly haven't listened to it quite enough - these are very much initial reactions about both baths and jm - reactions compared to what I'm hearing a lot of right now. Tbf I need to sit down with this properly before passing sweeping judgements on what might be very good indeed.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Saturday, 30 July 2011 03:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't call John Maus "chillwave" either, no way no how, but son of a gun, I'll be danged if I didn't include this album on an iTunes playlist of mine called - you guessed it - "chillwave"...alongside the likes of Ariel Pink, Toro y Moi, Washed Out, Ford & Lopatin, etc...I mean, sure, not all "chillwave", but they really seem to get along well...so, there's that.

henry s, Saturday, 30 July 2011 03:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

You don't know how happy it makes me that the days of the record store are coming to an end. $20 for an LP? Do you remember going to the record store and not getting what you want because there was no other place to get it? Now we can get it all for free, and I think that's wonderful. There was always something really depressing to me about record stores and music equipment stores. There's something oppressive about them, like the guy who looks you up and down and looks at what you're buying. You're bound up in exchange with the snobby clerk. So I'm glad they all have little "closed" signs on their doors now.

Remind me to punch this clown in the throat if I ever see him

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

is that an interview quote?

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

p-fork interview here: http://pitchfork.com/features/guest-lists/8003-john-maus/

i don't think he could have come off any worse if he'd tried...i have no interest in "chillwave", but even less-so having spent any time reading that brief interview.

dronestreet, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

FWIW, I wasn't saying he was necessarily chillwave, just his music is one of many that exhibit those purposefully muddy/lo-fi production jobs that kind of don't feel necessary.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

*reminds If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport to punch John Maus in the throat if he ever sees him*

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

i knew ilm could be insufferable but lately this thread takes the cake

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

musician has opinion about record stores that incites esteemed ilxor If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport to violence, feebs hit wrists to chest every time the word "chillwave" is invoked because they are retarded.

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

stay classy Matt P

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 16:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

fuck you bitch

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

Matt P, go check out the "S/D: IDM" thread to feel warm about ILM again... I'm only mildly kidding; the discussion going on there is U&K.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Remind me to punch this clown in the throat if I ever see him

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:59 (1 hour ago)

dude's fuckin huge, I would train a bit first

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

imo just go to his live show, it's him punching himself in the throat over an over

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol Cal Arts

buzza, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

buzza

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah that's a good thread. xp

sorry i called you a bitch jon. turns out im the one who needs to chillwave out.

puerile fantasies (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 17:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

buzza

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 18:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Well, Yglesias is a fan. At least of the title.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

so i am going to see him tonight

i have been led to expect *crazy things*

is this going to be like bauhaus + soul junk or what

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:25 (six years ago) Permalink

also tropic of cancer is opening but they are not really my thing (death to false techno)

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:26 (six years ago) Permalink

can we please mandate that the right John Maus thread is the one where Whiney calls him a "worthless VHS idiot"

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 00:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i love this guy and think that thread is dumb.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:04 (six years ago) Permalink

and i know none of his backstory which seems to make people annoyed, cos i have a life.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:05 (six years ago) Permalink

hmm that's an odd slur coming from a guy that fucks w/ pre-biggie rap and dope 77-85 reggae

so you're telling me to expect a worthless vhs idiot

:-(

at least i didn't pay for these tix

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:05 (six years ago) Permalink

whoops that was xpost to aero

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:06 (six years ago) Permalink

i learned about three completely-new-to-me musicians today: frank ocean, twin shadow and john maus. i think i liked john maus' music the best.

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:07 (six years ago) Permalink

i wonder if he'll do something stupid in honor of comic-con

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:08 (six years ago) Permalink

i recommend keeping john maus in mind for christmas 2012, that album is burnt into my mind for christmas 2011. "believer" actually sounds like some hipster "last christmas" shit, amazing.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:11 (six years ago) Permalink

you know i think i like that type of stuff the least!

but i really like the muy dramatico tracks like "cop killer" and "don't worship the devil" and i like devo-type things like "navy seals".

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i am hoping it will be more a.r.e. weapons and less twin shadow, is that a false hope?

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:18 (six years ago) Permalink

that was sporadically awesome and he def punched himself a lot

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 07:54 (six years ago) Permalink

What do you think of "rights for gays"?

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 July 2012 09:37 (six years ago) Permalink

there was some classic whiney g vitriol in that other thread, also pics of cute rodents

sarahell, Sunday, 15 July 2012 10:01 (six years ago) Permalink

I still like the one john maus record I have I gotta say

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

he played rights for gays! it was awesome and my mormon friend was pumping the fist to it.

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I used "mastering to VHS" to describe Maus itt, as a compliment, though.

Ówen P., Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Rereading that other thread I can't really say there's much distinction between Maus' "inside voice" and Whiney's, get Whiney talking about a nacho or about Canadian rap and he'll say some flaming things too

Ówen P., Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

He punches himself during live performances?

calstars, Sunday, 15 July 2012 14:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Briefly saw him in Peckham last year for the Upset the Rhythm fest (Dan Deacon was playing upstairs, think No Age did the second day etc), his mic broke, lol it was like Barry from Eastenders in Extras in that he carried on not giving a fuck.

Ronan's right about 'Believer'.

The new rarities comp is pretty, pretty wonderful too.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

people used to master to 1630 all the time actually

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

all he does live is punch himself and hit himself in the head w/ the mic, he's great, v tall

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:13 (six years ago) Permalink

that was sporadically awesome and he def punched himself a lot

― the late great, Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:54 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Saw him live last week ... pretty awful/hilarious. Like, I understand if you're a press-play-&-karaoke-your-own-songs performer and feel the need to maybe compensate by "losing yr shit onstage" and "going bananananans" etc., but someone needs to sit him down for a bit and explain that his stage persona undercuts like 95% of his show and maybe consider toning down the pacing around / intense-hair-grabbing / GRRRR INTENSE stuff?

❀ the cult of ➥upside➥wingspan➥personal growth gurus➥FA charlatans (CompuPost), Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Sounds entertaining. But I think I'd rather just listen to his records.

calstars, Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:54 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't understand how him jumping around and being intense undercuts the performance when that is the performance?

the late great, Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:27 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't understand how him jumping around and being intense undercuts the performance when that is the performance?

If I'm parsing you correctly, it's because the "intensity" seems like so much of a put-on (ie, pre-meditated / disingenuous) that it was unintentionally funny, which almost never happens? Thrashing around on stage and looking like you've got bees in yr pants is a pretty standard performative pose; usually, as someone in the audience, you either buy in or watch w/o much interest in the physical performance. Out of the thousand different ways a singer can look intense onstage, he found some sweet-spot where he looked silly enough that I was perma-chuckling/cringing for the whole 30+ minutes. It probably didn't help that he was kind of running through the same four or five physical ticks throughout the whole show.

There was other stuff not to like -- same echo effect on vox, bad skip-track transitions -- but I thought his stage presence was irl lol. Then again I didn't spend any money on the show, so can't really complain that much.

This is coming from someone who likes his music fwiw.

❀ the cult of ➥upside➥wingspan➥personal growth gurus➥FA charlatans (CompuPost), Sunday, 15 July 2012 22:07 (six years ago) Permalink

i bought in pretty easily

the late great, Monday, 16 July 2012 00:04 (six years ago) Permalink

i admit i did go outside during the last two because i felt like i had seen all of his poses by then but i also just wanted fresh air

i liked his unamplified screaming parts too because there

the late great, Monday, 16 July 2012 00:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Huh, I might be in the minority then, although I saw a few people around me who were lolling as well (I was kind of on the outskirts though, rather than down front w/ people who were a little more amped). Was just disappointed since I really like the tracks he puts out; but, if other people are connecting to it, I guess, more power to him.

i liked his unamplified screaming parts

Agreed, which is always good!

❀ the cult of ➥upside➥wingspan➥personal growth gurus➥FA charlatans (CompuPost), Monday, 16 July 2012 00:41 (six years ago) Permalink

i was lolling too, i think inside john maus was lolling at times, the only people who never cracked a smile were the girls from tropic of cancer, who i was surprised to see were unaccompanied by silent servant, who was also lolling

it was lolling with rather than lolling at

my friend regifted to john maus a carpentry and paint build-your-own-toy-pirate-ship kit that i had given him, john maus lolled at that but i think that was lolling at

the late great, Monday, 16 July 2012 00:44 (six years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

That album has only gone up and up in my estimation since last year. It's a record I can just have on repeat and not notice it's been looping for about three hours. Helps that it's nice and short.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 09:25 (six years ago) Permalink

no one's been talking about it here but the 'rarities & unreleased material' record is a party & absolutely worth your time.

ogmor, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

It certainly is a grower and I find the sound of the album - that deliberately 80s sounding synth cheese with doomy vocals thing - to be really intriguing...it should be awful!

yugi ex, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

now on his wikipedia:

Underground Releases
1984: Maus
1985: Maus Time
1986: Baumaus
1987: Man or Maus?
1988: Maus and the Gang
1989: Maus and the Gang 2: Return of the Maus
1990: Maus and the Gang 3: This Time It's Mausy
1991: The Janitor's First LP, with Sam Anderson and Cory Boik
1992: The Janitor's Second LP, with Sam Anderson and Cory Boik
1993: A Janitor's EP, with Sam Anderson and Cory Boik
1994: Early Songs 1, with Cory Boik
1995: Early Songs 2
1996: Early Songs 3
1997: Early Songs 4
1998: Mass Appeal, with the Tony Alonso Ensemble
1998: The Mystery Molasses LP, with Ian Stahl, Jay Jensen, Gabe Schlake and Jess Bednar
1998: Early Songs 5
2000: Fish With Broken Dreams
2000: Love Letters From Hell
2001: Snowless Winters EP
2003: I Want to Live
2011: Demos

JoeStork, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:17 (six years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

"Believer" is some next level shit

calstars, Friday, 25 April 2014 02:33 (five years ago) Permalink

pretty much

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 25 April 2014 09:06 (five years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

All-time break down

calstars, Saturday, 4 October 2014 00:13 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Psyched to hear that he's planning new music for next year.

calstars, Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:38 (four years ago) Permalink

We Must Become has to be one of the most surprisingly enduring records I've heard in recent years. I didn't expect to give it more than just a cursory listen when it first came out, but I ended up just having it on repeat for weeks and I still play certain tracks on a fairly frequent basis.

Hello, my name is Dark Chocolate Cookie (dog latin), Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:55 (four years ago) Permalink

^^ otm. It's in my top ten of the last ten years probably. Never expected it because his previous work was so scruffy and scrappy, but We Must Become is a stone cold classic start to finish.

Great news that he's going to make music again, was afraid he'd stick to lecturing.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:08 (four years ago) Permalink

I just got my first Twitter follower who's not a member of my family - John Maus!

calstars, Thursday, 4 December 2014 23:46 (four years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

just realized new gold dream by simple minds feels like a total blueprint for the john maus vibe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzMgfi9y-nc

austinb, Sunday, 7 May 2017 05:33 (two years ago) Permalink

https://t.co/NebtrtwBRF
Aug 19th

— John Maus (@JOHNMAUS) May 18, 2017

Aug 19 at moma?

calstars, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Hope it’s something to do with Spotify.

the ghost of markers, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:19 (two years ago) Permalink

I can sort of understand the New Gold Dream comparison in terms of the kinds of chord changes used.. I'm always thinking in terms of arrangements/sonics

brimstead, Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:34 (two years ago) Permalink

when's he dropping a new album?

dynamicinterface, Friday, 19 May 2017 00:38 (two years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^

joshywinty (josh), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:37 (two years ago) Permalink

i think he said in an interview a few years so he wanted to have a live band for his next album

ufo, Friday, 19 May 2017 04:41 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

huh

https://youtu.be/g_WPWpo2AXU

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:10 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_WPWpo2AXU

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:11 (one year ago) Permalink

i hope john maus finds what he's looking for

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 19:13 (one year ago) Permalink

I do too. This is awesome though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 22:59 (one year ago) Permalink

really liked that but I will never not call him "worthless vhs idiot john maus" in my mind

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 10 August 2017 01:10 (one year ago) Permalink

keep the meme alive!

sansa riff (sarahell), Thursday, 10 August 2017 01:52 (one year ago) Permalink

is this guy the pretentious Ariel Pink?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:00 (one year ago) Permalink

adam what are you using the word pretentious for, is it cuz of philosophy

ogmor, Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:05 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm excited.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:33 (one year ago) Permalink

I've been popping maus all day, would love to see him live

ogmor, Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:36 (one year ago) Permalink

he is amazing imo.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:43 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd basically given up on him coming back with new music, so when I say I'm excited, you'd better believe I mean I AM EXCITED.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 August 2017 13:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Count me EXCITED as well

calstars, Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:01 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

"The Combine" is from the forthcoming album Screen Memories by worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS available October 27, 2017. Screen Memories is also a part of a career-spanning limited edition 6 LP box set being released in April 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kF2-Cr6yX4

crüt, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Dear worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS,

It's good to have you back.

Yours,

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 15:06 (one year ago) Permalink

I like the new one, some very nice synth solos. Compositionally and production wise, could fit in well on that Rarities disc.

calstars, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 01:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Damn. He's coming to town opening for a.pink but don't want any of my money going to AP. 30 bucks for an opening act is steep.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:20 (one year ago) Permalink

^ especially steep if Maus's live set is still just him singing and shouting over his music played on an iPod.

I saw Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti years ago because Os Mutantes were opening. I thought AP was pretty good! I was impressed by how the band seemed to capture the washed-out VHS sound of his records in a live show. But this was before all the controversy and I was a few drinks in by the time he came onstage.

crüt, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:26 (one year ago) Permalink

definitely one of those acts that is great after a few drinks ... or more

sansa riff (sarahell), Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:28 (one year ago) Permalink

AP music is good!! but yeah he is a garbage person

brimstead, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:29 (one year ago) Permalink

well was good, i just like the old lofi stuff mostly. crut you really should check out "the doldrums" album at least once..

brimstead, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:29 (one year ago) Permalink

i hate ap but love his music so i got a ticket, fetch :(

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:32 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah I like The Doldrums!

crüt, Thursday, 31 August 2017 23:36 (one year ago) Permalink

just him singing and shouting over his music played on an iPod

this sounds extremely appealing to me and is why i bought tickets earlier

ogmor, Friday, 1 September 2017 00:17 (one year ago) Permalink

That was APs set up when I saw him like a decade ago. I like his music but he's a choad and has been rude to me a couple of times.

Fetchboy, Friday, 1 September 2017 00:47 (one year ago) Permalink

i think maus is playing with a band now

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 September 2017 01:32 (one year ago) Permalink

maus back

flopson, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:41 (one year ago) Permalink

part of me wishes ppl stopped making music like this and ppl like him and ariel pink would just die or fade into obscurity so that i could compartmentalize it in my mind, maybe eventually be nostalgic about it..... but that song is p good

flopson, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:46 (one year ago) Permalink

maus' music kind of makes me nauseous and puts me in a foul mood and i like it a lot. i'm not sure what other musician does that for me

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 September 2017 01:47 (one year ago) Permalink

leaked?

calstars, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 00:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Yep.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 07:07 (one year ago) Permalink

WMBTPCOOS has to be one of the most surprisingly enduring albums that I know. I gave it, what I assumed was going to be, a cursory listen when it came out but then ended up buying the record and now I still play it quite regularly

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 10:13 (one year ago) Permalink

Same for me. It's a classic album imo, and it clicked right away with me.

I've only heard the new one once; not sure it will be as classic for me, but it's what he does best and I really enjoy it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 11:19 (one year ago) Permalink

"Your pets will die" ;_;

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 11:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Touchdown is already a classic for me

octobeard, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 04:57 (one year ago) Permalink

I like the ones that sound like they could have come from the b sides collection , Esp Teenage witch.

And Could there be a connection with Pink's kitchen witch?

calstars, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Latter kind of seems like a glammed up version of the former?

calstars, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:30 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Just listening to his latest, "Screen Memories" and I am really enjoying it. It feels like a guilty pleasure. Somehow it reminds me of Lansing-Dreiden as it also succeeds in recreating the new wave sound of the early eighties without aping/cloning it. Usually retro music bores me to death but this is different. He does his own thing and somehow it works. Surprised that there isn't more discussion on him around here.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:10 (one year ago) Permalink

New album's great!! Probably not better than Pitiless Censors but it's definitely more well-produced

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Hell yes, new album rules. IDK if it's actually better than his last records but it's easily my favorite thing he's made.

davey, Thursday, 2 November 2017 20:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe it's because the production is better. Thinking why I had a hard time connecting with previous records of his, the production was probably it

davey, Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Also the RA review suggested that the current political climate (of horrors) is a better context for his style of music, and it does feel like a timely record

davey, Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:03 (one year ago) Permalink

six months pass...

his AMA is predictably good reading https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/8jp4qx/im_john_maus_ama/

ogmor, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Thanks for that

calstars, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 15:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Follow your nose, philosophize with your nose! Wikipedia, The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, The Beginners Guide comic series, The Giants of Philosophy narrated by Charlton Heston--things like that. They'll all give you the standard caricature, e.g., "Hegel is about the acorn becoming an oak", stuff like that... Then, smarmy, uptight, grad-students with no love in their hearts will kick you in crotch (and do it speaking perfect French) when you try to weigh in on the basis of that knowledge so you'll read each of three critiques from cover to cover carefully underlining everything that is important, you'll keep reading, reading it all, always the original book, always from cover to cover, and then when smarmy grad student comes to kick you down you'll just feel bad for them... They'll say something like, "Yeah, I wrote an essay about how I want to make out with Walter Benjamin." And you'll say something like, "Huh? You know my brother just got down slugging through the Arcades Project, have you ever read that one?" And they'll say, "Yeah, I think so..." Then, you'll think to yourself, 'geese, it took my brother several weeks to slug through that several hundred page collection of fragments and aphorisms, it's something I don't think he'll ever forget, and here this person is telling they're not even sure if they read it! Damn, I guess I won't even bother trying to dialog about On Language As Such and On the Language of Man, even though the profound insights contained in that essay illuminate the truths contained in the story of the fall in ways I haven't even begun to unpack, because this one I'm talking to now is no good.' Then, later, you'll be in New York City and you'll politely try to make conversation with someone standing there, and you'll ask them: "What do you do?" and they'll say "I work for an art collector" and you'll say "cool, what sorts of art are you into?" and they'll say "well, right now, I'm into garbage" and you'll think to yourself 'how many of these robots are there?'

:D

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 17 May 2018 12:55 (one year ago) Permalink

The new one didn’t click with me at first but I just gave it a re listen and it’s excellent. Maybe a little more low key than Pitiless, which I think is his best. Love his synth tones.

calstars, Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:29 (one year ago) Permalink

his AMA is fantastic lmao, exactly what I'd expect

has anyone else listened to Addendum yet? I'm enjoying it a fair bit more than Screen Memories

ufo, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 16:04 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Really sad news: https://pitchfork.com/news/joseph-maus-john-maus-brother-and-bandmate-dead-at-30/

flappy bird, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 04:30 (ten months ago) Permalink

wow, that's horrible. I hadn't realised that was his brother

ogmor, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 08:01 (ten months ago) Permalink

I wonder if he got hit by the viral lung thing going around Europe -- it's apparently really dangerous because the symptoms are pretty mild.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 08:40 (ten months ago) Permalink


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