there are plenty of songs that are about the kind of music they are - i.e. "i love rock and roll" - and there are plenty of songs about the band that's playing them - i.e. "hey hey, we're the gories"
but after hearing a sweet and heartbreaking version of "the tennessee waltz" (possibly by the andrews sisters) come up on random this morning as i shut my eyes and rested my head against the hard glass partition of the london tube, i realised that there are songs that are literally about themselves
what are some more?
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Shellac - Song Against Itself
This is the song against itself It's of two minds of its own
― nate woolls, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:14 (sixteen years ago) link
TMBG - Number Three
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Badly Drawn Boy - This Song
― Dorianlynskey, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link
oh god why didn't i realise there would be loads of cutesy post-modern non-rock like this
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i have heard none of these songs but i bet none of them quite does what tennessee waltz does, which is to a) tell a story which features b) the tennessee waltz... provoking a kind of science fiction impossibility loop
"i remember the night / and the tennessee waltz"
how could you, since you're singing it right now?? but you could, kind of... waltzes were all mainly wordless anyhow, and no one knew exactly who wrote them, or when they started
and anyway, maybe i'm the one with my chronology all kerflooey! maybe the tennessee waltz did exist, for decades, and simply didn't have any lyrics, and then got these famous ones laid over it at some point
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:24 (sixteen years ago) link
ignition (remix)
― max, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link
The Beatles - Only A Northern Song
― nate woolls, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh Yeah - Roxy Music Suffice To Say - Yachts
― Dr.C, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link
is the Ramones' "second verse, same as the first" in Judy Is A Punk a valid answer?
― StanM, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Song from Under the Floorboards - Magazine Dixie Chicken - Little Feat
― sonofstan, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Natasha Fucking Bedingfield - These Words
― Matt DC, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:39 (sixteen years ago) link
another 'This Song' on the last Cassius album.
― blueski, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Kiley Dean - Make Me A Song
― blueski, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Sparks: "The Number One Song in Heaven"
This is the number one song in heaven why are you hearing it now, you may ask...
― Tuomas, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Bowie, "Five Years" - just a line, which would be my choice for favourite Bowie Line, except it's more like four lines
I think I saw you in an ice-cream parlour Drinking milkshakes cold and long Smiling and waving and looking so fine I don't think you knew you were in this song
― ledge, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:48 (sixteen years ago) link
'i've got a song that'll get on your nerves'
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Pulp's Something Changed, sorry Tracer.
― Alba, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Carly Simon - You're So Vain, obviously.
― Matt DC, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Public Image Ltd - "This Is Not A Love Song"
― snoball, Monday, 7 January 2008 11:56 (sixteen years ago) link
king curtis 'memphis soul stew'
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Pussy Galore "Song at the End of the Side" Elton John "Your Song"?
― dlp9001, Monday, 7 January 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link
tod rundgren - chain letter eltohn john - your song
― Zeno, Monday, 7 January 2008 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Destroyer - "Looter's Follies" may not be about itself, but it does feature the line "I swear 'Looter's Follies' never sounded so good". I only own two Destroyer albums, so it's possible this may not be a unique phenomenon.
― bernard snowy, Monday, 7 January 2008 12:27 (sixteen years ago) link
denim - 'best song in the world'
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 12:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Spitting Image - "The Chicken Song"
― snoball, Monday, 7 January 2008 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
"oh yeah" is a great answer!
i don't know a lot of these, this is good
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 January 2008 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Overnite Sensation - The Raspberries
― sonofstan, Monday, 7 January 2008 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Possibly "How I Wrote Elastic Man"...
― factcheckr, Monday, 7 January 2008 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe "Short Songs" - Dead Kennedys
I like short songs (x13)
29 seconds long
― nate woolls, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Another "This Song," by the author of "Only A Northern Song," off Alfred's favorite album, Thirty Three & 1/3
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
"Song For Whoever" - The Beautiful South
"Let's Dance" - David Bowie - "let's dance to the song they're playing on the radio" which would be the song you're listening to right now, ie this song called "Let's Dance" by David Bowie.
― snoball, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link
"Your Song" - Elton John "The Last Song" - Edward Bear
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Desmond Dekker - Reggae Recipe.
― chap, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link
"Will You Write Me A Song" - Elkie Brooks "Sad Songs Say So Much" - Elton John
― snoball, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link
"One Note Samba" -Tom Jobim
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link
(You know, we've done this before, but who knows if the thread can be found)
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
"Rock'N'Roll Music" - Chuck Berry "Rage Hard (Young Person's Guide To The 12 Inch Mix)" - Frankie Goes To Hollywood
― snoball, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link
neil young - ambulance blues ("it's hard to say the meaning of this song") roy wood - song of praise
― Zeno, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link
"Hit The Deck" - Ice T
― snoball, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Nick Lowe - I Love My Label
"My label always loves to hear some pretty chords/on their records/like these ones"
― Dr.C, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Signed Curtain - Matching Mole
― woofwoofwoof, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
syd barrett - here i go ("when i woke one morning and rememberd this song"...)
― Zeno, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Fugazi: Song #1
Song #1 is not a fuck you song"
Fugazi: Furniture
"This is a song with no words"
― Usual Channels, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Mekons: 100% Song
"This is a simulation of a song / are you ashamed or what?"
― Usual Channels, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
"Do The Strand" - Roxy Music
― snoball, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Pink Floyd - Have You Got It Yet? Randy Newman - My Life Is Good Mekons - Empire of the Senseless
― dad a, Monday, 7 January 2008 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Top 100 most META songs of all times
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 7 January 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link
-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, January 7, 2008 7:00 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
came here to post this
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link
"This Is Not A Song" Frank & Walters
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 7 January 2008 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link
"Song Sung Blue" - Neil Diamond
― snoball, Monday, 7 January 2008 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link
"Sing this song all together" The Rolling Stones
― Mark G, Monday, 7 January 2008 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Whirlpool Productions 'From Disco To Disco', sorta
― blueski, Monday, 7 January 2008 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Magnetic Fields - I Think I Need a New Heart
Time stands still All I can feel is the time standing still as you put down the keys and say don't call me please while the radio plays "I Think I Need a New Heart"
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
"The first word in this song is 'discorporate'. It means 'to leave your body'"
― chap, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
you're so vain?
― s1ocki, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link
the human league, "the black hit of space", but not really. that "not really" applies to quite a few others here, i feel.
― grimly fiendish, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link
THIS IS THE SONG THAT NEVER ENDS YES IT GOES ON AND ON MY FRIENDS SOME PEOPLE STARTED SINGING IT NOT KNOWING WHAT IT WAS AND THEY'LL CONTINUE SINGING IT FOREVER JUST BECAUSE...
― The Reverend, Monday, 7 January 2008 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think either of these qualifies.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
This is the... Song From the Edge of the World - Siouxsie & the Banshees
― dave 2¼, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Jimmy Webb - "If This Was the Last Song"
― Simon H., Monday, 7 January 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Wire's It's So Obvious and other art joke song structures
― dad a, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link
pixies - tony's theme
― Zeno, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link
from Monty Python's Spamalot; 'The Song That Goes Like This'
― S-, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Minutemen "Self-Referenced"
― dad a, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link
No, wait, even better!
Minutemen "Themselves"
― dad a, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link
The Sisters of Mercy - "This Corrosion"
SING "THIS CORROSION" TO ME
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Tenacious D "Tribute"
can't believe I went there...
― rock_is_dead, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 03:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Sonic Youth- Youth Against Facism
― mulla atari, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link
That song is about Stairway to Heaven, though.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 06:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Can't believe no one has said 'Same Old Song' by the Four Tops. It's the same old song But with a different meaning Since you been gone
― Popture, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 07:30 (sixteen years ago) link
"Your Song" has only been mentioned three times previously here, so I guess I'll mention it once more.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 09:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Carter USM, "The Music that Nobody Likes"!
"It goes Baa baa baa baba baaa ba ba baaa Ba ba baaa baaa baaa baaa baaa baaa baaa baaa"
― ledge, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Does the Pennsylvania Polka count? I suppose it might rather be about a dance...
Strike up the music the band has begun The Pennsylvania Polka Pick out your partner and join in the fun The Pennsylvania Polka It started in Scranton. It's now number one It's bound to entertain ya Everybody has a mania to do the polka from Pennsylvania.
― Øystein, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link
I think that's more of a song that's about a dance, but I know where you're coming from. There's a million like this - The Twist, Mojo Workout, etc etc.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link
This song is just six words long This song is just six words long This song is just six words long This song is just six words long
Couldn't think of any lyrics No I never wrote the lyrics So I'll just sing any old lyrics That come to mind, child
You really need words Whole lotta rhyming words You gotta rhyme so many words, mm-mm To do it, to do it, to do it, to do it To do it, to do it right, child
I know that you're probably sore 'Cause I didn't write any more I just didn't get to complete it So that's why I gotta repeat it
This song is just six words long (six words long) This song is just six words long (six words long)
Oh I make a lotta money They pay me a ton of money They're payin' me plenty of money To sing this song, child
I gotta fill time Three minutes worth of time Oh, how will I fill so much time, mm-mm I'll throw in a solo, a solo, a solo A solo, a solo here
This song's got nothin' to say But I'm recording it anyway I know if I put my mind to it I know I could find a good rhyme here
Oh, you gotta have-a music You need really catchy music This song has got plenty of music But just six words, child
And so I'll sing' em over And over and over and over And over and over and over, mm-mm And over and over and over And over and over and over again
Six words long, six words long Six words long, six words long Six words long, six words long
This song is just six words long It's just six words long
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 11:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Song In Contravention
Song giving descriptions of an unnamed act of love The court will call this song Exhibit A Song including details of the persons taking part And the actual words these persons say
Song in contravention of sections of the law Members of the jury take your time Remember even listening if only this far in Already makes you guilty of a crime
This love in contravention They see fit to ban That woman feels for woman, man for man This love outside the law is the strongest love of all Pass it on To sing this song is a crime of love Sing this song
Song giving descriptions of an unnamed act of love Outlawed by the government this year A song giving descriptions of forbidden forms of love Is passing at this moment through your ear
Song in contravention of sections of the law That deal with making public private thoughts With lyrics so explicit and descriptions so perverse They constitute the crime that it reports
In the perfumed garden the apprentice sits alone Like a Persian miniature in stone The jury and the witnesses are kneeling at the throne Waiting for the judgement to come down
Song giving descriptions of an unnamed act of love An act of love is taking place Sung with your consent, the song has reached its very end The prosecution rests its case
― Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link
"Look What They've Done To My Song, Ma" - The New Seekers
― snoball, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link
operator please, song about ping pong. and the kissy sellout remix too.
― NI, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link
This song is just six words long
BUT IT'S NOT. I don't know whether or not that's intentional but argh that annoys me every time.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Breeders, "Cannonball": I'll be your whatever you want The bong in this reggae song
Neil Young, "Borrowed Tune": I'm singing a borrowed tune that I stole from the Rolling Stones I'm too wasted to write my own
The Who, "Song Is Over"
― Jake Brown, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link
wait a bunch of these including the TN waltz (do the strand, PA polka etc etc) that are about the dance with the same name, not the song itself, right? those shouldnt really count.
― 69, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
As far as I know there isn't a real dance called the Strand, except as defined by the song. Even there it's not a dance in the sense of a set of specific moves, it's metaphorical.
http://www.librario.com/692
― snoball, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link
i dont care, the song's not about itself
― 69, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link
OTM :)
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link
In categories:
Songs that comment musically and lyrically on themselves and their place in a defined tradition:
Wilco, Someone Else's Song Gillian Welch, One Little Song David Allan Coe, You Never Even Call Me By My Name Jaguar Wright, Divorcing Neo 2 Marry Soul
Their first cousins, songs that both talk about and demonstrate the songwriters' songwriting style:
Rhett Miller, This Is What I Do Sleater-Kinney, Words and Guitar Barry Manilow, I Write The Songs Parliament, Everything Is On The One (and P-FUNK, for that matter) Carlos Vives, Amor Latino; El Rock De Mi Pueblo
Songs that are "about" their own construction:
Sly and the Family Stone, Dance To The Music Rogers & Hammerstein, Doe, A Deer Carlos Vives, La Receta
Ballads that (like Tennessee Waltz and Dixie Chicken) incorporate themselves into a narrative: James Taylor, Sweet Baby James (and Fire and Rain, sorta)
Donovan had a song whose title I don't remember, but it started, "Here's a little song you can all join in with . . . "
― Vornado, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Brian Wilson - "This Song Wants to Sleep With You Tonight"
― Dominique, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link
the tennessee waltz isn't about a dance called the tennessee waltz, it's about a song called the tennessee waltz
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link
You and your Tennessee Waltz.
― Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link
the other matching mole song works too. Matching Mole - O Caroline
― CaptainLorax, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link
nofx - please play this song on the radio
― elan, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link
A few more painfully obvious ones:
Antonio Carlos Jobim, Samba de Uma Nota Leaonard Cohen (and practically everyone else, too), Hallelujah ?, Angels We Have Heard On High
and one particularly philosophical example:
Cafe Tacuba, Cero y Uno
― Vornado, Thursday, 10 January 2008 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Antonio Carlos Jobim, Samba de Uma Nota I'd point out that this was already posted, but as the second person to mention "Your Song" I can't really throw stones.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 10 January 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Tracer Hand, Wednesday, January 9, 2008 11:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
yeah you are right
― 69, Thursday, 10 January 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
There are lots of songs about somebody doing a dance or singing a song that probably don't count, even though you could well imagine that the song they are singing is the song you are hearing, such as "Um Um Um Um Um Um" by Major Lance.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 10 January 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link
and "Gettin' In Tune" ("I'm singing this note 'cause it fits in well with the chords I'm playin'" etc. etc.)
― Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 10 January 2008 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Willie Nelson - "Sad Songs & Waltzes"
(somebody may have mentioned this, but i dont feel like lookin at the whole thing)
― Rev. Hoodoo, Sunday, 13 January 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I said this and immediately regretted it. I think I meant it in a literal, lyrical sense. A sense that the songs are closed-off to any other music, any other artistic concern other than the completely solipsistic. The sense that songs about themselves taken to some sort of logical conclusion wind up being Dream Theater or somesuch. I didn't mean that songs that spring up out of an instinctive musical inspiration are invalid.
Anyway, discuss.
― dyaaaow (acoleuthic), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
"songs have gotta be about more than themselves", that is
Randy Newman - Rednecks ("So I went to the park / and I took some paper along / and that's where I wrote this song")
The Dead Milkmen - Nitro Burning Funny Cars ("No one will ever write a song called / 'Nitro Burning Funny Cars'")
The Velvet Underground - Temptation Inside Your Heart ("It's not that good of a guitar solo")
The Monkees - Gonna Buy Me a Dog ("Don't ruin my song, man" "It was ruined when it was wrote")
― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 13 December 2009 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Belle and Sebastian, "Judy and the Dream of Horses"
If you’re ever feeling blueThen write another song about your dream of horsesWrite a song about your dream of horsesCall it judy and the dream of horsesCall it judy and the dream of horses
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 13 December 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
From Robbie Williams' "Strong":Early morning when I wake upI look like Kiss but without the make upAnd thats a good line to take it to The bridge
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 13 December 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
How in the hell did nobody mention "Smoke on the Water" yet? I thought that song was famous for being about itself.
― WmC, Sunday, 13 December 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Was that song about the Mothers Of Invention gig that caught fire in Montreux?
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 13 December 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
That's part of the story.
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/d/deep_purple/smoke_on_the_water.html
(The site won't let me C+P lyrics.)
― WmC, Sunday, 13 December 2009 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Prince's "1999" fits, right? "I was dreaming when I wrote this" etc.?
― neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Sunday, 13 December 2009 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link
this might be the best song of the genre by the way
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 13 December 2009 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link
King Crimson - Happy With What You Have to be Happy Withhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8xLsZh2v2g
― I'm losing my Vitamin C (CaptainLorax), Sunday, 13 December 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Taylor Swift does this at least twice that I can think of on her first album. 'Tim McGraw', the first track, and 'Our Song', the last one.
― wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 13 December 2009 07:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Jim Croce: I'll Have To Say I Love You In a Song
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 13 December 2009 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link
In the early 90s, a Finnish dance act called Allekirjoittanut had a song on their album called (in Finnish) "A Really Catchy Filler Song". The chorus of the song went something like this (translated from Finnish):
This is a really catchy filler songIf it gets stuck in your headPlease contact your doctorOr go the hospital
Basically the whole song was about how Allekirjoittanut's producer is demanding for one more song to fill their album, and they need to come up with something quickly. And the funny thing was, it really was a very catch filler song and it did get stuck in your head. The song even had a rap section that began something like this:
But now we're gonna have a hectic rap sectionIt's an international trend these daysIt's certainly quite refreshingNot to have to listen to the same guy for the whole song...
― Tuomas, Sunday, 13 December 2009 12:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Blues Traveler "Hook" is also about how catchy it is, but with a bit of an edge of mocking you for getting caught.
― dad a, Sunday, 13 December 2009 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link