Jazz GUITAR poll

There should have been a "no" option. :)

But I voted for Scofield for his 90s records.

I just got that Tal Farlow Quadromania thing, mostly for the Savoy trio sessions with Mingus and Red Norvo, but basically the whole thing is incredible... probably still gonna vote for Grant Green, though, because Idle Moments was the album that really got me into jazz.

does that django guy count as jazz?

Why not?

FUCK, HOW DID I NOT PUT HIM ON THE LIST?!

I specifically remember typing his name, then thinking "I'll move him down the list so he's not next to all my other favorites." I must have forgotten to move him.

So I guess if you want to vote Django, just write in Django and we'll tally the numbers.

Shall I go ahead and make an uninformed vote? I know one guy and I like him.

You filthy swine.

Grant Green.

Brandon Ross? Masujaa?

I guess I could have included William Ash too. And Jeff Parker

I already forget who I voted - Jim Hall? I'm fucking beat tired.

SHARROCK

Most underrated - Bauer

Yeah, I gotta lot of love for a lot of these dudes, but I think it's going to inevitably be Sonny.

Sharrock gets huge love on ILM. I won't be surprised if he wins.

Oooh! Wait! Ben Monder--really under-rated, and what about Lenny Breau?

Yeah, I also thought of Ben Monder too late.

I have never heard of Ben Monder.

There should have been a "no" option. :)

OTM

Well, that's more for me then!

Wait. That's not true, is it...

Anyway, I have a hunch that the Paul Motian Trio's version of "Tinkle Trinkle" with Frisell handling the monk-chords might make you think twice about such intolerance.

count this as one django vote

gotta go w/grant. runners up include blood ulmer & kenny burrell.

mia: pete cosey & reggie lucas, bernie nix

Bill Frisell is my guy.

not that i think he is especially adept at his instrument or a great song writer but i listen to EAST/WEST a lot.

Sharrock gets huge love on ILM. I won't be surprised if he wins.

-- Hurting 2, Monday, June 25, 2007 10:25 PM

I'd never heard of him until a few couple days ago, but I now own like 3 of his albums.

The fact that I have to choose between McLaughlin and Joe Pass is a fucking crime though.

Got "Ask the Ages"? That's the one to have, if you have to only have one (but luckily you don't.)

That is the one End of an Ear didn't have, the bitches.

OOP, not their fault.

I mean, check it:

11 New and used available from 11 New and used available from $29.989.98

Uh, $29.98, that is. But still.

Yeah I was being half-serious.

But you know the time, right?

Another underrated dude (admittedly I only know him from one Oscar Pettiford session) - Atilla Zoller.

I left out Pete Cosey because I think of him more as a rock guy who played on some fusion albums, but I don't really know him that well.

Phil Upchurch

Django, but Grant Green is pretty great too.

Guitar is the Sharrock to have, but Ask the Ages is almost as good.

There's a Sharrock collection on eMusic that has a few Ask the Ages cuts. I think it's the one title they have of his, so it'll be easy to find.

Does anyone else think Joe Pass is just a flashy robot? I might've heard the wrong stuff...

I never cared much for Joe Pass - even the "Virtuoso" recordings everyone raves about. I think "robot" is harsh, but he's kind of like the Oscar Peterson of guitar.

"like the Oscar Peterson of guitar"

This is rather otm, but that's part of what I like about him.

He's a little too perfect and pleasant all the time.

I do like the Joe Pass/Herb Ellis stuff. Have you guys ever heard them do Seven Come Eleven live? Holy fuck!

Um, COUGH:
http://download.yousendit.com/A9BFCAFE5985EE88

Look what came out of my throat

Jim Hall for me

Jim Hall has the touch.

A lot of these guys are not really jazz (Sonny Sharrock is a rock/r&b guitarist for sure). Pat Metheny's playing with Ornette is probably my favorite jazz guitar but he's disqualified with the relentless tastelessness of his other stuff. I can't remember who I voted for already, either Jim Hall or Freddie Green.

For the most part, guitar solos in jazz are really boring.

"A lot of these guys are not really jazz"

lol dude you're a treat

Perhaps I worded that incorrectly. It is difficult for me to compare what Freddie Green did and what Sonny Sharrock did. Better?

Brandon Ross? Masujaa?
-- Oilyrags

Exactly!
Also - Richard Leo Johnson.

Django Reinhardt vote here

But for early jazz, you left out Eddie Lang and Lonnie Johnson too.

I do like Jim Hall, but I'm going with Derek Bailey.

I left out Pete Cosey because I think of him more as a rock guy who played on some fusion albums

fair enough. actually I have no idea what Cosey did besides those Miles albums, was he a session guy in Chicago R&B?

but Derek Bailey, who is great, seems only tangentially connected to jazz too. and Eliott Sharp couldn't swing w/a machine gun @ his nutz.

I don't think old Del Bailey would have been very chuffed to be described as a jazz guitarist

yeah Cosey did Chess Studios stuff but even before that he played in ex-Sun Ra sideman and AACM co-founder Phil Cohran's group Artistic Heritage Ensemble. so he comes from a jazz background.

Django.

I miss Cosey on this, another "rock guy who played on some fusion albums" and, like Cosey, did it very well-Tommy Bolin.

I'll go with McLaughlin for "Noonward Race" alone.

tommy bolin! he's much more of a rock guitarist than cosey -- a great one in my estimation -- and yeah his fusion stuff w/billy cobham and others is good. as is his fusion-y 1st album Teaser.

Charlie Christian is the best.

Confession: I've never heard note one from Derek Bailey.
Further confession: I used to have a coupla albums by Django and Wes, but in general (Philistine rockist that I am), the only jazz guitarists I've ever paid much attention to are the so-called fusioneers - the ones who turn the amplifiers UP. I've never cared much for that fairly bland tone that is standard for jazz guitar (or used to be.)

Of the ones above, the only ones I've listened to a lot are McLaughlin, Sharrock and Ulmer. And of those three, I've gotta say John McLaughlin, largely to counteract all the ILM hate he receives on occasion. And for "Noonward Race". (Magill OTM.)

McLaughlin is great on Mahvishnu stuff, Shakti, Miles records, etc., and deserves more credit than most just for that. But he's committed a long, seemingly unending string of jazz crimes. Also, fuck Friday Night in San Fransisco. That shit SUCKS

Ok, it doesn't really SUCK, but it's super corny

Is that the guitar trio stuff?

Yeah, Al DiMeola/Paco DeLucia/McLaughlin. Always gets repped by guitar doods.

ponytails + Steve Vai guitar w/handhold cutout

Jordan -- that's wot you'd like to vote for?

No, that = guitar doods.

Hmmm...now that you mention it, I believe I only have two McLaughlin "solo" albums in total, and I've heard almost nothing he's done from the 80s onward, which could indeed conceivably suck. But damn, how many classic albums did he play on during 1969-72 alone? A dozen?

"My Goals Beyond" totally kills.

Charlie Christian is the best

Sure enough, he plays like a guy with his hat tipped back.

Yeah, he's definitely on enough great albums to make up for even a lifetime's worth of lousy albums. No pun intended, as the Lifetime albums are really good.

Does Chet Atkins count? Or Danny Gatton?

I'm probably lame but I'm voting for John McLaughlin. His playing with Miles is off the friggin chain.

DJANGO. *secret door to speakeasy opens*

Pete Cosey is on Electric Mud.

I don't think jazz guitar has really hit its zenith, there are some great players but there are few of these guys which are as amazing as writers. I think partially because there was alot more money to be made by guitarists playing other music without as much hard work.

The 70s and 80s were really good for jazz guitar. During this time for the first time the guitar became a more acceptable instrument in music schools. I think this is another major reason jazz guitar has not had as many important players as other instruments. Well that and you don't get into marching band playing guitar or at least it didn't happen much in the 40s to 60s.

Ralph Towner and Terje Rypdal probably also deserve to be on a list such as this one. They both have made some good records and have a unique sound for a "jazz guitarist".

I wouldn't put Electric Mud on my resume! ;-)

I voted for Grant Green (am session completist nerd), but might have chosen Johnny Smith too if he had been listed (which he probably deserved).

I also really like Jimmy Bruno but he is just more of a tip to anyone who might care than that he should have been on the list.

Bruno's a great guitar teacher too.

I have a Jimmy Bruno CD somewhere - it's ok.

Is he the dog from The Triplets of Belleville? If not, I've never heard of him.

No Steve Carlton option?

OK I was riding the M11 bus up 10th ave in Manhattan this eve and a grey haired older black guy w/guitar got on board at 48th. I won't say he looked EXACTLY like the late Sonny Sharrock but the resemblence was strong enough to freak me out, esp. considering this thread. uncanny.

I have a Jimmy Bruno CD somewhere - it's ok.

Well, admittedly he's no Allan Holdsworth.

xpost - Do you mean Larry Carlton? I think Steve Carlton was a baseball player.

Grant Green, people! He could swing almost any tune he tried. Also, nice to see Tiny Grimes on the list. Everyone should hear "Marchin' Along" with Coleman Hawkins from the album Blues Groove (1958). Nearly 18 minutes long, Grimes solos for 8 minutes before Hawkins comes in.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/steve_carlton_autograph.jpg

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http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/images/local/vmgartists/133b6a57-0f1c-4c64-8a1b-226ceca3edce.jpg

You just like the Gr- sound.

Grant Green is pretty, but he's kinda boring on anything with more than a few chords.

Uh, pretty GOOD that is.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

"Grant Green, you got a purty mouf."

Wes all the way

This is really, really hard, but I threw in for Frisell because he's the one I enjoy the most.

Did anyone mention Vernon Reid? I hated Living Color, but he has a couple jazz records out that are pretty good. Emusic has them if you want to check it out. Can't remember the name, but I like the one with the reddish cover. Also, stop giving Vai a hard time. And those expensive Vaibanezes would be a treat to own.

yeah, Vernon Reid used to be good! He used to play with Ronald Shannon Jackson on some good records. and was he in prime time? I am too tired to look now but I feel as though i remember that. I wouldn't think he belongs in the poll though but nice one for reminding people that he didn't always suck ass.

Wes all the way until he started to make really bad records.

As a matter of fact, Reid's most recent records are go-for-broke weirdo fusion that works just fine for me.

Don't be fooled by the eyes, lovebug!

As a matter of fact, Reid's most recent records are go-for-broke weirdo fusion that works just fine for me.

I don't doubt that... thanks for the tip!

I saw Jim Hall not too long ago. The show was kind of a let down, actually.

He's kind of hit or miss as a leader - sometimes I question his taste in sidemen, arrangements etc.

i can imagine that Jim Hall can fall pretty easily into the EZ listening category -- but his stuff with Sonny Rollins, Undercurrent w/ Bill Evans and the Alone Together record w/ Ron Carter are all pretty sweet. It probably just takes someone pushing him outside of ye olde comfort zone.

Also good w/Art Farmer.

Whoa, have you guys ever heard Herbie Mann - Memphis Underground? Sonny Sharrock comes out of nowhere on "Hold On, I'm Coming," which just played on my Pandora.

never heard that one. herbie mann's record covers scare me.

I like all the Herbie Mann albums with Sonny -- don't forget Roy Ayers and Miroslav Vitous were in the band too!! ... 'Windows Open' is a good'un .. also one of the live ones gets pretty hot. Not the live one titled 'Hold On I'm Comin' (which i think was just ok), but the other one.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Nels Cline 3, Joe Pass 0

i mean, come on

Wow guys.

sorta shocked grant green pulls ahead of wes

yr all just hating on the beatles covers

hey grant did beatles covers too! i think he stole the arrangements from Wes, matter of fact.

ilm's dirty acid jazz past revealed at last. why wasn't boogaloo joe jones number two?

ILM: Soft on jazz

yr all just hating on the beatles covers

well, yeah!

The version of "Airegin" from Incredible Jazz Guitar is another one of those songs that gets stuck in my head really often. I'd say at least once a week.

Grant Green didn't get desperate and making loads of unfortunate musical mis-steps until long after Wes was dead. I doubt he was the winner of this poll for his "acid jazz" material, he was just a bloody great player is all. Was he better than Wes (or Django or Charlie Christian for that matter)? Maybe not... But there is a good reason that he is the winner.

Question: did the people who voted for him do so because of his pre-1970 material (as I did) or post?

i actually can't remember if i voted for Grant or not, but I may have -- I like both eras of his playing, though, yeah, there is some dumb 70s stuff. Some great 70s stuff too! "The Final Comedown"! Pre-fusion era, "Idle Moments" is a stone cold classic.

re Wes "mis-steps"? What, the A&M stuff? Because if you're talking about the Verve albums, you're mistaken. Those smoke just as much as the earlier records. They just have different arrangements--the playing is the same, if not better. This "early Wes" vs "late Wes" trope that has been around for years, and it's totally stale. The verve records are *great*, and how many A&M albums are there, two tops?

I love Grant, but he'll always be second banana to Wes. Wes is just twice as exciting. I've never heard Green do a chord-melody, or an octave solo. He's very one-dimensional compared to Wes.

OTM. Incredible Jazz Guitar alone trumps Grant Green's entire oeuvre, and who cares if he made "musical missteps" (i.e. paid the bills) later.

These Wes Montgomery live records are really hot. It is why I voted for Wes.

Smokin' at the Half Note
Full House
Complete Live in Paris 1965

no doubt, wes was amazing!

yeah the live Europe stuff is just insane. Wes is one of the very few guys who consistently pins the "WTF did you just hear that?" meter

if Wes has any drawbacks, it's that he's almost too good, and too fluid. it could get boring, I suppose. he never makes a mistake. he's like Bird.

Green is a much more hesitant player, which brings another aspect to it. You can hear more of the ANGUISH of life through Grant's playing. I think that's why people are attracted to him. Wes is more like an alien from another planet.

"Blue n' Boogie" on Full House is so killer. The section at the end where Wes and Johnny Griffin play back and forth off of each other is really exciting.

It is a shame that some of the SF dates that Wes did with Coltrane never got recorded. I bet those were pretty hot.

if Wes has any drawbacks, it's that he's almost too good, and too fluid. it could get boring, I suppose. he never makes a mistake. he's like Bird.

Green is a much more hesitant player, which brings another aspect to it. You can hear more of the ANGUISH of life through Grant's playing. I think that's why people are attracted to him. Wes is more like an alien from another planet.

Yes, this is why I like GG just a bit better. OTM!

It is a shame that some of the SF dates that Wes did with Coltrane never got recorded. I bet those were pretty hot.

I have had wet dreams about this for years.

I'm sure glad I voted in this one, otherwise poor Barney would have been left out in the cold.

You folks who didn't vote for Charlie Christian are flat-out fools.

hmmm, well the pollster didn't actually ask a question like "who is your favorite" or "who is best" or "most influential". Here I go then...

Most influential: Charlie Christian
Best: Wes Montgomery
My favorite: Johnny Smith
My favorite in the poll: Grant Green
Most innovative in a modern setting: James Blood Ulmer
Most technically gifted: perhaps Joe Pass

destruction terror and mayhem

When I first picked up the guitar back in 01 I bought a guitar magazine and saw this transcribed in it. Didn't take note of the tempo, learned it ultra super duper slow. Then I heard it.

And realized that uh I would never play it. I saved the transcription and I still come back to it once or twice a year to see if I'm up to speed yet, but goddamn. Also lol @ "Flight of the Bumblebee"

these poll results are weird! grant green is usually underrated

Pat Martino...

My guitar teacher told me that he was in some kind of severe accident where he completely lost his ability to play and completely re-learned. Also something about him having some weird system where he can spell words in his mind with the notes of his solos.

yeah, his story is made-for-tv-movie level fascinating.

Why does most jazz guitar SOUND so shitty? So many guys on this list either have unsatisfying and weak "clean" sounds or use obnoxious effects to cover up the flaws. Only a handful make a really satisfying sound with their instrument, either clean or with effects.

Never learned how many votes Django ended up with (still can't believe he was left off the original ballot).

Looks like 3

Bucky's appearing tonight at the Bella Luna restaurant on the Upper Westside, where he will be dueting with Jack Wilkins, who didn't even make the ballot.

man, if they were playing an hour later i'd drop by. as it is i won't be off til 9:30.

(which makes two different shows i'm missing tonight because they're playing too early. wtf new york?)

It hurts me to do so but I think I really disagree with Hurting 2 about the sound of jazz guitarists. Question: Are you comparing them to rock guitarists? (You very well may not be.) I feel that many people take rock guitar sounds, which are almost always deadened by amps, as a standard for the sound of the electric guitar. The instrument has more to offer sonically!

I wonder if you went over to that gig and sat at the bar you could catch the tail end, Jesse.

In other news another non-poll maker, Gene Bertoncini, is appearing tomorrow with strings at the Jazz Standard.

Question: Are you comparing them to rock guitarists? (You very well may not be.)

No, I'm more comparing them to the sounds of other jazz instruments. I find guitar (in the hands of most) to be one of the least-satisfying sounds in jazz -- it's usually so dynamically flat and often fails to blend properly with the band. It too often sound more like a note machine than a real instrument.

Hurting, if you are not too buried under your lawbooks you should come out one night to see some solo jazz guitar so you can be proven wrong. Although actually I think you do have a point.

Didn't notice this, so Charlie Byrd missed a well-deserved vote.

Here's a link to the Jack Wilkins gig page so you can see when he's dueting with Bucky again or with Howard Alden, or want to be ready when Jimmy Bruno comes to town.

Hm, do you find guitar much worse than keyboards or vibes?

Wow, how did I never know about Johnny Smith before?

O_o Joe Pass 0

I happen to find Joe Pass a little boring, fwiw.

although I like the duets with Herb Ellis

Johnny Smith, the guy who wrote "Walk Don't Run"? You don't hear about him much these days. However I will re-extend my offer to you, Hurting, to come out and see some jazz guitar. Jack Wilkins is playing tonight at a place called Rue 57 where you will be able to see how well he blends in with Harvie S, Billy Drummond and Harry Allen and maybe talk to him about Johnny Smith or Ted Dunbar.

You missed a good show. And the guy who books the place is way into Johnny Smith.

Sorry man so this too late.

saw

If you go to that place tonight, our friend Junior will be there along with his dad.

Putting link to Russell Malone interview here as well: http://www.justjazzguitar.com/articles/art-01-malone.php3

Don't know why I bother, but here's another invitation for you, Hurting. Come out one Monday to my neck of the woods and see my neighbor do his thing. He always has good players with him and the next two weeks he has an especially good bass player: http://www.jimhershman.com/gigs.html

Not to be a dick but I don't really think I'm going to come out to Queens to see jazz guitar, which I don't like, when I'm working the next morning.

I mean the guy is good but it's very jazz-guitary jazz guitar.

I do like some of Russell Malone's work however.

Russell himself himself has made the long, lonely trip out to Queens where he hung out and played at that very gig and then still had time to go back into the city to catch Ron Affif at the Zinc Bar. But then again he likes jazz guitar and probably didn't have to get up in the morning.

I used to dislike most jazz guitar as well, and I still don't always like to listen to recordings of it that much, but I figured that I live in a big city where there are lots of good players playing gigs in bars and restaurants with no cover, sometimes with bass and drums or singers and often even conveniently located in Manhattan so I figured I'd go out and check some of it out. If you can see Bucky Pizzarelli for the price of a beer, why not? Especially since he might bring his son John along or some other guitar player like Howard Alden is at the bar waiting to sit in. How do you know what the guitar tone of one of these guys is really like or how it fits in with a band until you have seen them live?

Meanwhile, recently discovered this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXx9vtVrR9A

(I did always like Ted's tone, but he played with his thumb and that makes a big difference)

Also been checking him out on Gil Evans - Svengali

(great solo on Thoroughbred)

You forgot to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxmnpAixnDg

High school guitar-class-mate of mine playing free at BAM:
http://www.bam.org/view.aspx?pid=2747&ref=nf

(Psst. If there is anybody reading this thread interested in actually seeing a real live Jazz GUITARist, instead of wondering why they all are so bad and hated, Gene Bertoncini will be playing tomorrow as part of the Jazz Brunch at the North Square off Washington Square Park, where they always seem to have good guitarists, and at Smalls on Monday.

You could also go this or any Sunday evening to Walker's to see Peter Leitch play as part of a duet, usually with a top of the line bass player.

Or you could wait until Tuesday and go to Jack Wilkins's regular gig that I mentioned upthread or you could stay home and... ah, never mind)

i was a big jazz guitar nerd in high school and i still will defend pat metheny's playing. ignoring everything that is PMG, i put on some of his albums i love recently (80/81, the holland/haynes trio, even the 2o00-era Trio stuff like the Trio Live album) and every single phrase came right back to me. so distincive

Really curious about this new record with the robo-orchestra. Sounded cool from what I heard in the EPK video.

I generally like some of his playing but he tends toward a sort of 'irrational exuberance' or something.

how could you not love this man??

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/279167/Pat+Metheny+Russian+River+Jazz+Festival+20.jpg

I enjoy Orchestrion. The title track is the most ambitious musically but it's all good if you like Metheny's style. My gf thinks much of it sounds like lounge music fwiw. I think the compositional craft and attention to orchestration distinguish it though.

Saw a picture of your guitar teacher in the Jimmy Heath autobio which I think I'm going to need to read. Although I probably will read Scott LaFaro bio first.

Nice. I've been increasingly loving his playing on Ego lately.

I may have told you this before, but if you want to hear a really concise and incredibly tasty Ted solo, check out Fat Mouth on Lou Donaldson - Pretty Things.

Hurting, our pal Junior has been playing this week at the Jazz Standard with his dad and an awesome band featuring Peter Bernstein and Larry Goldings. I went to the late show yesterday and tonight is the last night so, um,...

Gah, this would have been a great week to go except tonight is terrible because my wife is about to fly out of the country tonight and I'm taking her to the airport.

Too bad you missed it.

Looking through the Jimmy Heath book and I see that he briefly mentions Ted D as somebody he knew from Jazzmobile. He also appears in "Appendix A: Unique Names," which is an incredibly long list of nicknames assigned by the Heath Brothers to other musicians, as "Texas Ted."

Barry Galbraith

I forgot that two people actually voted for Freddie Green. That's a great challops but in a way sort of right opinion to have.

Yeah, there's challops and then there's challops. I like reading the various articles on Freddie Green's comping style where they debate how many notes he actually played in a chord.

http://www.freddiegreen.org/technique/mp_quotes.html

Have any new Ted Dunbar recordings been unearthed lately?

A lot in his discography I'd like to track down:

http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Artists/Dunbar/td-disc.htm

Our friend Junior might have his mom's copy of that first LP, but I don't know what good that is going to do you.

Yesterday was the birthday of the first man ever to record on electric guitar, who received zero votes in this poll.

Hm, still can't figure out who you're referring to... Maybe I will in the morning.

George Barnes, apparently
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Barnes_%28musician%29#First_Recording_of_Electric_Guitar

Ah, thanks!

(How are you, Hurting 2?)

Hey, I'm good sund4r! Thanks for the comment on my beat.

I think I'm going to listen to George Barnes for the rest of the evening.

I hope everybody who voted on this thread will vote in the upcoming "best jazz tracks of all time" poll.

just got this
http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=450&uid=1203054
some of the usual suspects, but a bunch of bop-era guitarists I've never really heard. cheap!

Charlie Christian 2

the fuck

Think I got an email that one of Ted's star students has a gig tomorrow night.

Which one?

The one who has the same initials

Saw two cats classified as jazz guitarists who play with more of a rock influence that you might have enjoyed in overt the past two weeks.

"in overt"

Ted Dunbar's Bebop List

Ha, I think he still used virtually the same list when I was there. I kind of found it tedious, tbh. Also Freedom Jazz Dance is a real bitch to finger on guitar and I never quite found a good way.

Then maybe you should go up to Jazzmobile and study with Rick Stone!

I actually never quite understood his recommended practice routines. I mean "practicing" all of those tunes every day alone would take a few hours if you really did it. Then he'd have like three other books for you to practice out of, and you were supposed to do each thing in every key in every position on the fretboard, and it seemed like it would take 8 hours of FOCUSED practice to get through all that plus whatever was assigned for combos and improv classes and such. And I just did not have that kind of focus.

I know what you mean. Obviously you've gotta practice a lot and practice stuff on a regular basis, but to give people a giant list of stuff and say you've gotta practice this giant list every single day seems like it would be demoralizing to everybody but the most fanatical student. Which some might say is the point but still. Actually I saw the other guy for a few seconds this evening but didn't really talk to him. Next time I will ask whether he practiced all of that every single day.

Yes I would really like to know that. I think that was actually a big contributing factor in never getting further along in music was that demoralization.

Too bad this book wasn't around for you back then: http://www.shermusic.com/new/1883217482.shtml

Was wondering about this again today.

If you hang around with some Jazz guitarists you might find that a reasonable number of them actively dislike rock guitar, both the notes that are played and the effects they are played through. You might even here somebody say "These kids ruined music!" Which is fine if the disliker is over 60 but is really kind of weird when they are under 50. (Which ultimately might cause somebody else who does listen to rock to say that they hate Jazz guitar in return.) Some might actually cover it up by picking a few players to appreciate-"Oh yeah, I like Jimi Hendrix!" - but that's about as far as it goes. I'm sure somebody will say I made this up, but I assure you this strawman exists.

yeah in general people who ONLY like music from before their time tend to be a little crypto-creepy ime.

Have you met any of these rare creatures?

Some might actually cover it up by picking a few players to appreciate-"Oh yeah, I like Jimi Hendrix!" - but that's about as far as it goes. I'm sure somebody will say I made this up, but I assure you this strawman exists.

This is absolutely 100% true. I've been in on many of these conversations, and this attitude spans generations (though isn't as prevalent with younger players).

Charles Shaar Murray, in his brilliant Hendrix book Crosstown Traffic, had a great line about how if some homicidal time-traveler were to strangle at birth every jazz guitarist between Charlie Christian and Jimi Hendrix, the overall arc and development of the music as a whole wouldn't be any different.

In other news, apparently when Congress reauthorized the FAA a month ago, they made it clear that musical instruments were permitted as carry-on baggage so long as they fit in the compartment- you can see this on the TSA website, guitars and violins specifically mentioned- but I don't think the airline personnel have been informed, you still have to argue with them about this

Hm. I guess the law was signed on Valentine's Day, but there is a two year rollout period

Back to the other topic. You don't see this kind of thing too much with, say, bassists and drummers, they like themselves some funk too much, for one thing. Saxophonists though...

if some homicidal time-traveler were to strangle at birth every jazz guitarist between Charlie Christian and Jimi Hendrix, the overall arc and development of the music as a whole wouldn't be any different.

My man Wes deserves a little more respect than that.

Yeah, feel like that was a little overboard. It's the other side of the debate that ultimately ends up being one of these deals http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/Colors_of_contention.jpg

One time I heard Von Freeman's brother George on a Charlie Parker record and man if he didn't sound like Hendrix avant la lettre

My man Wes deserves a little more respect than that.

Ha, I actually just happened to re-read that passage, and it's actually between Christian and Wes, not Christian and Hendrix.

You know what's a great record that I am listening to now? Billy Bauer - Plectrist.

Happy Birthday to Gene Bertoncini, who is 75 today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nx0IL_QawJc#!

Friend of mine found this on youtube. Richard Davis looks (and plays like he is) high out of his mind. Still pretty cool though.

awesome, thanks!

Breaking character, frame, fourth wall of ILX to tell you that my current screen name is a takeoff on yours.

Now I must change it.

Makes me want to change mine to Baron FAPurday, but on second thought, no.

Hm. I had a screen name based on that once, where was it, let's see. OK, look here: Album Covers Featuring Tiny People Living In The Artist's Or Cover Model's Hair

hahaha

ha that was a great thread

Did you guys know that Lenny Breau's first jazz session (1961) was with Levon Helm and Rick Danko as rhythm section? Also, it fucking smokes. They're not an amazing jazz rhythm section but they get out of the way, which is the best thing they could do for his liszt-esque runs.

Crazy!

It's on spotify ("the hallmark sessions"). Couldn't find any youtube links.

Thanks, will be checking out shortly.

Just asked one of TD's well-known students if he played the list everyday. He laughed and said "Everyday? I'm still trying to get through it!"

Seriously, I think I went crazy trying to play Parisian Thoroughfare on the guitar. Of course I had only heard the lightning-fast Bud Powell version and it had never occurred to me to play it half time like here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q-ePYiCJYM

that is a great quote btw ken

oh and I forgot to mention that the super-fast bud powell version is the one he gave us on the tape he gave us with all the tunes. Small fuck you for that one Ted, RIP all the same.

Just trying to do my job as Jazz Investigator, Josh.

Guy also said he can still hear Ted's voice

Question: which two beloved, much missed Jazz Guitarists/Teachers were born in Port Arthur, Texas? Hint: one played on many film soundtracks including those of The Wild Bunch and Ocean's Eleven, both of which he was an extra in.

wow, two? I have no idea who the other one is.

Jimmy Wyble

ha, well according to wikipedia, there's also Zachary Breaux. So that makes three.

Next question: What Jazz Guitarist had a successful career at his advertising day job before he retired to play music full-time and has just written a bestselling cookbook?

no idea!
but i was listening to this album last night.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61P1EXCNS7L._SL500_AA300_.gif
very nice, but a missed opportunity w/ the cover image -- should've had kessel standing at the stove flipping a pancake or something.

If I could imagine one jazz guitarist being successful in advertising and writing a cookbook, it'd be George Benson, but I'm guessing that's wrong.

He's not a famous guitarist.

I only learned of him because he his a family friend of a guy I know but he is well-known in certain circles.

Buckethead

Ding ding ding!

j/k

Bucketheads Bucket-o-food Cookbook

BH Ideas.

If I could imagine one jazz guitarist being successful in advertising and writing a cookbook, it'd be George Benson, but I'm guessing that's wrong.

― this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Friday, June 8, 2012 2:22 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol because he had a record called cookbook?

There's some jazz guitar in Sunnyside this Wednesday, if you want to kill two birds with one stone and check out your new neighborhood.

cool where at

The Claret Wine Bar.

John Stowell will be the special guest this week, he is in town from Portland.

Also, the other guitar player, Tosh, whose gig it is, has two little kids so you can ask him about facilities for children in the area.

http://irom.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jimmy-wyble-young-man.jpg

Another victim of Frankenstorm Sandy: Jazz Guitar. Jack Wilkins' regular Tuesday night gig has been put on hold the past two weeks. Fingers crossed it will return soon.

0 votes for Abercrombie? :-<

Charlie Christian 2

the fuck

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, January 27, 2012 9:09 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seconded.

Hurting, you neglected to conduct the requisite pre-poll poll to see how many people would actually vote and adjust the number of nominees accordingly.

jim hall 2!

The Genius of Lenny Breau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLD-BVVYDV4

Just watched the whole thing. Man.

***SPOILER ALERT***
You will see Chet Atkins cry and there is some chance you might do so as well.

It can be a little hard to watch without feeling depressed about my own chops.

Yet another reason to cry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MN9uYWG5I

OK, I just read One Long Tune: The Life and Music of Lenny Breau and it knocked me flat. Will report at length later.

The whole story unfolds like some kind of Michael Chabon/Cameron Crowe confection about The World's Greatest Guitarist, piling incident upon incident of, just when you thought there were no more left, another Guitar Player's Guitar Player or Guitar Player's Guitar Teacher stepping forward to say "I thought I knew something about the instrument but then Lenny came to town and stayed over to my house where we jammed all night and he showed me had mastered my style and in fact greatly improved upon it. Whenever he came through again he would stop over and show me some new stuff he was working on while I kept the tape rolling but I in the end couldn't really play it because my technique wasn't good enough." All this leading up to the dark Sunset Boulevard/Jim Thompson denouement. I exaggerate but not much.

Hey Ken I like the way this guy plays:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxk1dycOz5w

never seen him live but found him via searching other DC players I know

Don't know from him, sorry. Only Washington guitar player I know is a Brazilian guy who moved up here full-time last year.

This looks to be interesting: Kenny Wessel interviewed by Lewis Porter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Whg6Js62Xs

Hurting, just checked out the website of something called QJOG -the Queens Jazz OverGround, which is supposed to promote live jazz in Queens, and they had a woman listed there that I never heard of who studied with Ted and some other famous guitar players.

There are actually two people on that list who studied with Ted, and one was my year

Small world. Which I type whilst wondering if there is an emoticon for a certain kind of finding something a little surprising when really it is just a statistical likelihood that was bound to turn up sooner or later.

Lage Lund live streaming on Smalls website right now, later Nir Felder.

"You and the Night and the Music." Pretty nice.

This guy is really more of an "out" guitarist than a jazz guitarist, but I like this a lot:

https://soundcloud.com/nick-millevoi/sets/black-figure-of-a-bird

He's great. Saw him a few months ago, totally killed. Super nice guy, too.

Yeah he is in full disclosure a friend of a friend and is a generally killin guitarist as well as nice guy. I saw him do a basement show. Wasn't sure what thread to put his stuff in really, maybe not this one.

This thread is as good as any.

RIP Johnny Smith.

Some more info with I also posted on the Rolling Obit thread: http://www.csindy.com/coloradosprings/guitar-legend-johnny-smith-alive-and-well-in-colorado-springs/Content?oid=1111071

Jazz Guitar D-bags, go to this stream now (thanks to dow on the Rolling Jazz thread) http://www.npr.org/event/music/156120628/newport-jazz-festival to hear Jim Hall and Julian Lage.

Although this show was recorded earlier. But kind find stream in the archive.

It will be archived, likely enough, since a good number of these sets have been or are due soon, according to NPR's chat room cadre (I'll have to try this set again later; kinda spare-to-sparse/clean or just plain subtle for me right off)

Friend of mine is playing with Ed Cherry tonight, a cat I know nothing about.

Hurting, perhaps you should check out my man Tom Guarna, tons of chops but always with a great groove, plays plenty of big gigs but always super down to earth.

He's been gigging and recording his own project with some of your favorites in the band, Johnathan Blake on drums and Jon Cowherd on piano.

Two votes for Derek Bailey!? I demand a recount.

Derek Bailey would object to being included in a "jazz guitar" poll probably

Indeed

Here is nice interview with Tom in All About Jazz by George Collilgan: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=45570#.UogPy5TSONx

(Now I'm going to read the Billy Kilson interview)

RIP Jim Hall. What a career.

Damn. Sad. He wasn't that old in my mind, although in reality he was around 83.

http://www.npr.org/2010/12/06/120889787/jim-hall-guitar-as-miniature-orchestra?sc=tw&cc=twmp

I got to see him play at Sonny Rollins' 80th birthday show at the Beacon Theater in NYC a few years ago.

RIP. Sorry I didn't catch him on the last tour.

I saw the Jim Hall Trio two or three times, but all many years ago.

One of the few jazz guitarists I'd put up there with pretty much any musician. Kind of wish he appeared as a sideman on a wider variety of records -- would have liked to have heard him play with more different people.

i dunno, he played with tons of people! you mean, like outside of the jazz world?

speaking of which, just occurred to me that he passed very close in time to Chico Hamilton

When Gary Larson retired from drawing The Far Side, he started studying guitar with Jim Hall. Best retirement ever.

Very moving remembrance by Sonny Rollins: https://soundcloud.com/jazz-video-guy/sonny-rollins-remembers-jim

there is a dope YouTube of sonny and Jim

http://youtu.be/ZIq5w-NogWA

you know, i like sharrock too and i *love* "black woman" but sharrock getting more votes than charlie christian, jim hall, tal farlow and kenny burrell put together is ultimate challops

I think it's more ignorance than challops tbf. A lot of ilmers come to jazz from a punk background, so they gravitate toward the freer players. Similarly, Grant Green gets 3x Wes because he plays the heavy funk, even though he's a far inferior player.

I like Grant Green more than you do but agree with your basic argument.

not "ignorance", but personal taste

i dunno, this poll is a little silly to begin with -- like, we wouldn't just do a rock guitar poll would we? have people voting either thurston moore or scotty moore?

I like Grant Green ok -- he has a great sound and feel, his solos just never go anywhere and he's really limited harmonically.

Most polls are silly. This poll in particular is only silly because based on the voter turnout people probably haven't heard or let alone listened to many of these guys, personal taste or not.
/bring_it_on

i like grant green a lot but part of that i think is the early 60s blue note magic

i think the complete quartets with sonny clark is just all-time incredible

i'd probably pay for a recording of a dog pooping if it was recorded by rudy van gelder sometime between 1957 and 1961

Poo Note

Anything 60s Blue Note with Sonny Clark is particularly unimpeachable.

Lots of tributes out there about what a nice guy Jim Hall was.

Including these three by some Canadian guitarists: http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2013/12/11/remembering-jim-hall-i-tributes-by-david-occhipinti-mike-rud-and-roddy-ellias/

http://www.npr.org/2013/12/13/250736909/fresh-air-remembers-jazz-guitarist-jim-hall

This is a nice interview, in spite of featuring Gross's signature awkward racial questions

ha yeah.
sonny rollins' remembrance is wonderful, thanks for sharing that one.

She more or less just asks him "TELL ME SOME GOOD RACISM STORIES!"

Interesting about the double-edged sword of the Griffin gig. Had to play to plate-spinners, but also Ellington and Basie.

When she asked him why he took the gig after being on the road so long, I kind of thought "Duh, you answered your own question." Anyway, he seemed like a really nice and cool guy. I found the stuff he said about his physical limitations on the guitar comforting, because I always felt the same way about my own playing -- slow, stiff hands that only get so limber even with a lot of practice.

lol I just put on his Jazzpar Quartet record, not knowing that much about it except that it was some Danish thing relating to a prize he won, and I was like "Damn, rando Danish sax player is BURNING these changes. Euro-nobodies are smoking americans these days in jazz." Then I looked it up and realized it was Chris Potter.

unrelatedly, a neat tune I discovered by a guitarist I went to high school with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfRgHWaa38k

Today would have been the 92 birthday of Jimmy Wyble, who I believed I've mentioned here before, who passed away four years ago shortly before his eighty-eighth birthday. He started out in Western Swing, playing with both Bob Wills and Spade Cooley, among others- listen to his solo on the original version of "Roly Poly"- and later played jazz with the likes of Red Norvo, Benny Goodman and Frank Sinatra- look for him in Ocean's Eleven and The Screaming Mimi. Later on he did tons of film and TV work, playing on the soundtrack of The Wild Bunch and The Flip Wilson Show among many others. Later still he was known as a teacher to many, many guitarists and for developing a contrapuntal approach for playing guitar. I was lucky enough to meet him once the before he died. The kind, gentle demeanor and devotion to maximizing musical matters and minimizing the attendant trappings that inspired so many were completely in evidence, you could feel it, even when he was just sitting at a table. You can read about him here http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Forgotten_Heroes_Jimmy_Wyble although there is something strange with that link, some pages seem to repeat.

Celebration of Jack Wilkin's 70th birthday this week on Tuesday at the Jazz Standard, featuring:
John Abercrombie
Howard Alden
Gene Bertoncini
Jimmy Bruno
Larry Coryell
Joe Diorio
Vic Juris
Jack Wilkins

Probably be some other guitar players as well. Also was the birthday of the great nylon string guitarist Paul Meyers yesterday. Happy Birthday, Paul.

Here's a nice interview with Paul talking about Freddie Green that I think I may have linked to before: http://www.freddiegreen.org/articles/meyers.html

Jazz Standard thing is sold out. Good thing I made a reservation.

Larry Coryell just walked by. Maybe I should have asked him about Locrian Mode.

Tal Farlow's widow is here

Biggest revelations for me were Joe Dorio and John Abercrombie.

This guy is a great jazz player, even though he looks like he should be playing with Nick Cave: http://www.jazzguitarsociety.com/interview/jgs-james-muller-interview-part-one-of-two/

Some guy trolls a jazz guitar thread and gets an interesting response here: http://rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz.narkive.com/1XDIQ7FF/al-caiola-hack

Which led to this: http://www.hagstrom.org.uk/buddy_fite.htm

Almost went to this event related to new Tal Farlow bio tonight but sent someone else in my place

http://bandwidth.wamu.org/guitarist-joel-harrison-plays-two-dc-shows-2015/

Now based in New York, Harrison has a career that includes playing with a big band, writing chamber jazz, wildly reimagining old country songs and composing for string quartets.

...Harrison — who earned a 2010 Guggenheim fellowship for his work — says his longtime friend Nels Cline explores similarly vast territory on the guitar. The two met in the 1970s, made a record together in the ’90s, and last year Cline performed at Harrison’s annual Alternative Guitar Summit

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/general/2015/03/26/guitarist-joel-harrison-on-local-legends-d-c-roadhouse-sounds-and-anthony-pirog/

Never heard of that guy, will investigate.

Came to post this, with some excellent playing by John Hart, who wasn't gotten a mention here yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-rekmZcrsg

Best Wishes to Bucky Pizzarelli.

He is currently recovering from a stroke he had at the beginning of November. Here is a fun article from earlier in the year:

http://njmonthly.com/articles/jersey-living/senior-class-bucky-pizzarelli/

Also looks like Saul Rubin has closed ZEB's. Never did make it over there but RIP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HCV5QeN2Ts

1978 Joe Pass and Paulinho da Costa album "Tudo Bem"

After countless solo guitar albums for Pablo, Joe Pass performed this welcome change of pace, a set of Brazilian tunes. Joined by fellow guitarist Oscar Castro Neves, bassist Octavio Bailly, drummer Claudio Slon, percussionist Paulinho da Costa and keyboardist Don Grusin, Pass plays warm solos on a variety of Brazilian tunes. Highlights include three songs by Antonio Carlos Jobim (including "Corcovado"

Lol @ "welcome change" - I always found those records so tedious

Cool guitar player being featured on WBGO right now, Philip Catherine.

And oh yeah, Bucky is out now, ready to start shedding.

Sonny Sharrock's playing on this Herbie Mann live 2CD set, coming out on Friday, is killer.

whoa

george van eps' nephew has been putting stuff on dime...

his uncle's stuff, not his own, i mean.

What's dime?

bootleg torrent tracker.

Tons of jazz guitar players out at Mezzrow last Wednesday, along with a notable piano player or two.

Any love for Oscar Moore? Do love the King Cole Trio stuff with him.

Also John Abercrombie on live mid 70s Gateway stuff.

Yeah, love both of those.

Julian Lage, the most exciting young guitarist in the jazz world. says critic Geoff Himes in the Washington Post

i get some balearic vibes from this track, though his work isn't always like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Q0tkQGI9Q

just from the guitar work in places.

I guess I should give a listen to his 2014 duet recording with Nels Cline

I looked up some youtube vids of Julian Lage and I can't say they grabbed me. I'm kind of averse to acoustic jazz guitar though, other than Django.

Aram Bajakian is a far more interesting guitarist than Lage, although I won't let the fact he hasn't actually recorded a jazz album in his own name yet stop me interjecting here!

Just heard some Canadian guitarist, wonder if Sund4r is familiar with.

Ha, already forgot who that was.

Good guitarists I have seen in the past few weeks:
Pete McCann
Randy Johnston
Bobby Broom

RIP John Abercrombie.

Sad to hear this. A great player who chose to play less instead of more. I´m still getting to know his immense body of work, but my introduction to his music was "Class Trip" with Mark Feldman on violin - and it´s great. I was lucky to see him in Rotterdam, The Netherlands with this particular band around the time they released "Wait Till You See Her". I hope ECM will continue their rerelease schedule of his records (many records for other small labels are out of print) and that they will release a live DVD at one point.

RIP. Am very glad I got to see him the one time that I did.

RIP. Often recommend his trio alb Timeless (w/ Jack DeJohnette and Jan Hammer) to ppl looking for something in a similarly silent way to electric Miles.

I really like the live stuff I have by the Gateway trio from the 70s. I have i think the 2nd studio lp somewhere too buut haven't played it much.
That's also him with the Stark Reality isn't it? They're pretty great.

I remember seeing him during a slew of the "electric jazz fusion" band days...RTF, Abercrombie, Ralph Towner. Abercrombie's ECM dates are still favorites. RIP

I've been listening to him all day and wondering why I never listened to him more beforehand.

The book with sheet music "Timeless: The Music of John Abercrombie" mentions that he played on more than 240 albums. It´s a great resource for guitar players as he explains how he approaches composition and soloing. He was indeed a member of Stark Reality.

I´m also very fond of this album, where he sounds great. A nice combination of early Miles Davis lyricism and post-Bitches Brew grooves.
http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0001/570/MI0001570498.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

I noticed there are some Russell Malone references on this thread. His latest release Time for the Dancers is sick.

Wow, thanks for the tip re: the book.

Looks like that Abercrombie book is lead sheets plus commentary. No solo transcriptions, if that's what your after.

Abercrombie tears shit up on Enrico Rava's Katcharpari from 1973, which was just remastered by the MPS label. It's a very Jack Johnson/On the Corner-ish album, and Abercrombie's guitar playing is ferocious.

I noticed there are some Russell Malone references on this thread. His latest release Time for the Dancers is sick.

― calzino, Thursday, 24 August 2017 10:22 (two days ago) Permalink

Ooh need to check this out. I always thought he was kind of a slept on guitarist in hipper jazz circles although he has had some commercial success.

I reviewed the new Malone album in my Stereogum column. You can stream one track there.

I just remembered I have 3 Billy Cobham albums from the '70s with John Abercrombie on 'em. Gonna dig those out.

Looks like that Abercrombie book is lead sheets plus commentary. No solo transcriptions, if that's what your after.

That´s correct. There are 32 tunes from his entire career, from "Timeless" to "Within A Song" + a discography. It also features some alternative chord voicings heard on record but not listed in the lead sheets. You´ll learn about his obsession with minor flat six chords that imply the aeolian mode.

Well, in that case, I'll have to get it then

But really came to post about that other motif, that I recently discovered Rudy's had reopened on Broome Street. Went there last week and at the top of the stairs leading to the basement level is a picture of Russell M.

Oh man that Malone cover art is abysmal though

Nels Cline essay on John Abercrombie

Lately I've been in love with Jim Hall's solo on this Brookmeyer/Hall live version of Skating in Central Park (starts a little after the 4 min mark):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ_jEMSbfvo

Spotify has an album now with Ted that I had never heard before, a 1973 Albert Heath record called Kwanzaa. Kenny Barron is on it too. Pretty good.

Ted Dunbar that is

It's on Xanadu too -- I don't remember seeing other Xanadu stuff on Spotify

I believe I may have mentioned before, perhaps on this very thread, that Albert 'Tootie" Heath's brother Jimmy assigned your teacher the nickname Texas Ted.

Pat Martino should have got some votes.

Hall/Brookmeyer is just what I want to listen to this morning.

Wow, how did I never know about Johnny Smith before?

― rammer jammer jan hammer (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 05:23 (seven years ago) Bookmark

just had the same revelation after the latest Halvorson/Frisell tribute album piqued my interest.

RIP Vic Juris. https://www.wbgo.org/post/vic-juris-coolly-impeccable-guitarist-fluent-range-modern-styles-has-died-66#stream/0

I may have mentioned that he took over for Ted after Ted died and I had a semester of lessons with him. He was a very nice guy and a good teacher but I was in a really bad emotional place at the time and couldn't absorb much. I did gain one very useful lesson from him, which was to think about setting up your next improvisational moves on the neck of the guitar the way a pool player sets up for his next shot.

No, I don’t remember you mentioning his name. I do remember some others who I won’t mention;)

Saw on social media that another guitar player mentioned on this thread is not doing too well.

And he just passed. RIP, Bucky :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn27IcAapPI
His birthday today. Ron Carter's FB page posted this video.

Oh, no. Hang on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFZk9qb-A28

Haven't watched the George Benson video, and don't know if it is his birthday.

Really dug this Pasquale Grasso show I just watched streaming at Smalls.

i would like to thank john frusciante for getting really into charlie christian bc i am now getting really into charlie christian

Wait, Emily Remler was married to Monty Alexander? Apparently so.

I have been trying to learn "Hot House" and her version is killer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=484waDASa9s

Gonna take me a while to get up to tempo :)

Emily Remler's birthday today.

RIP Mick Goodrick.

https://www.thejazzguitarlife.com/2021/02/27/mick-goodrick-interview-with-jazz-guitar-life/

really nice work from my former classmate and fellow dunbarite

https://open.spotify.com/album/4AbzReVKnkH9EvjHd9hwaz?si=X2z-XIbFRkKdd83zSvuoNQ

(Mike Bagetta)

*Baggetta

Oh! Thought it might be another former classmate of yours that I am familiar with.

That got a little mad at my once about a decade ago because of…well maybe I will save it.

Listening to this now. Good stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Nuqrw1G9w

Surprised by the zero votes for Metheny, only because the biggest jazz fanatic I knew in school (which is saying a lot because I knew quite a few who were dedicated fans, playing in bands, hosting a jazz radio show on the school's radio station, etc.) was also a guitarist who worshipped Metheny, and now that he's teaching somewhere I'm sure he's pushing him on to his students. I would never vote for him but despite my reservations I have grown to like him, he's a good sideman on a good number of albums I really like and I love the one he did with Ornette Coleman.

Having his name misspelled might not have helped his vote count.
I'm enthralled by about half the tracks on his debut, respect his outing with Ornette, and everything else I've heard completely escapes me. Especially when he plays that guitar synth sound that sound like my cat talking to the birds: "mew mew mew mew mew mew...mew mew mew mew mew".

More to the point, where's Terje Rypdal?!?

...who I see was mentioned once above. As was Lenny Breau, who deserves attention though I wouldn't have voted for him.

For people who never clicked with Metheny or have only heard his smoother side, check out his playing on Kenny Garrett's Pursuance record,it's fierce.

Having his name misspelled might not have helped his vote count.
I'm enthralled by about half the tracks on his debut, respect his outing with Ornette, and everything else I've heard completely escapes me. Especially when he plays that guitar synth sound that sound like my cat talking to the birds: "mew mew mew mew mew mew...mew mew mew mew mew".

More to the point, where's Terje Rypdal?!?

― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 01:03 (one hour ago) link

This is how I feel about a lot of his music. His sound ranges from tolerable to awful on most records for me, and sound/tone is everything to me. He smokes on that Trio 99/00 album though and sounds better than usual as well.

Oh yeah Question and Answer is good too, forgot that one

And the Gary Burton album 'Like Minds' with Chick Corea and Roy Haynes, he's great on that.

Also he did this crazy rob-orchestra thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VymAn8QJNQ

*robo