Autechre - classic or dud

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Any of their music I have heard has been pleasant enough, but they are the Platonic ideal of all that shitetastically dull Warp chinstroker music, therefore SuXoR.

This is triggered by hearing they are curating next year's ATP. Jesus, I might not go now.

DV, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

new incredibly dull over intellectualised new answers.

DV, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Autechre music played on a very large soundsystem with adequate bass response and mid-high range capabilities is more than fucking incredible. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean a damn thing. Sorry to burst the subjectivity bubble.

Gage-o, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Autechre as hi fi test music.

DV, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i dont really know that much autechre,all i have by them is a copy of cichlisuite,which has been growing on me for quite some time now,and would encourage me to get some more of their stuff,and an mp3 of garbage,which is an absolutely incredible track...i dont know what album its from or anything,but i'd advise anyone here to download it,even if they're not big autechre fans...so what else by autechre is good?is the beatless garbage something of an anomaly in their output,or are there any other similar tracks?any other fans of the track here? cheers, robin

robin, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

ps-it occurs to me that the above is probably the most amount of words ever written about autechre without one of them being "architecture"

robin, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And you had to screw it up! We were on a roll!

Keith McDougall, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

autumnal england eulogies

start with LP5, then either chiastic slide or confield. most tracks sound too much like hard work, or too grim, to being with, BUT gradually evolve into musicbox folksongs.

dont know about an autechre curatorship, if its all phoenicia, arovane and funkstoring then it may not be much fun, but i give them credit enough to expect a more varied bill...

gareth, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

[...]but they are the Platonic ideal of all that shitetastically dull Warp chinstroker music[...]

right, so it's their fault 90% of IDM artists who came after them couldn't come up with an original idea and thus just made pale imitations. and added vocals and rapping. woo.

your null fame, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

by their spawn shall ye know them.

the ATP curatorship thing generally - it all falls down if the curators have narrow musical tastes. The Mogwai year really suffered in that regard, presenting the punter with a seemingly endless sequence of dullards. But who knows, maybe Autechre have a great love of Northern Soul, Norwegian Black Metal, and Sarah Records bands, leading to the most eclectic bill yet.

Or maybe it'll just be Plaid, Plone, Plonk, Plop, Plurp, Plup, Plipplop etc.

DV, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I heard one track on Peel that was interesting and one MP3 that wasn't. They're the kind of band I'll get into one day I'm sure, meanwhile I'm neutral. I'm sure they sound incredible on a system with adequate bass response and high-mid etc but I'm also sure that they don't sound remotely as good on said system as "Lords Of The Null Lines".

Tom, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

there earlier stuff aint bad at all .. Basscadet, the amber album, but lately i think they might have taken themselves a little too seriously ..

jk, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I quite like Autechre. Simple melodies surrounded weird glitch-y sometimes industrial sounding noise does it for me anytime. They also had/have a very unemotive cold style that at one point sounded very unique. Tri Repetae++ and Chiastic Slide are probably the ones I listen to the most.

I think it was Ethan that was saying that he liked Funkstorung better, a statement I agree with ONLY if you are referring to their respective remixes. For some reason Autechre's style transposed onto other music sounds less interesting than Funkstorung's similar but slightly more palatable in a song setting stylings.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Worth noting the other thread here I suppose.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Classic-ish. Search: pen expers! (ask gareth!) pir! (sounds like a 3yr old in a tub splishing out a mournful dirge!) arch carrier! rae!
Destroy: tri repetae. Maybe. I never listen to it.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Weird. Oh well. Try the non-linked version http://www.ilxor.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0054df

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No amount of dull shit (and they seem determined to release truckloads) can undo all the classic noise from the Amber and Tri Repetae period.

Curt, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

on balance, AE = classic. not all god, but stuff like the tortoise remix is well smart.... also arch carrier

and the best: the remix they did on the dj food remix album

ambrose, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

their curating can't be worse than Albini's line-up, i reckon, and could well be excellent

michael, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm kinda getting into 'confield'.i hated it at first but listening to it on headphones while pretty stoned i started to get into it. not something i'd listen to often but track 5 on the album has this sound of decaying machinery with this weird bell chime in the background that sounds great. So I dunno about classic but theres def. something interesting going on..

michael bourke, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh so classic.

incunabula if you want early proto-IDM ala artificial intelligence series, which they appeared on anyway.

amber if you want ambient-ish type stuff with some nice beats thrown in on occasion

tri repetae if you want a nearly perfect mix of melody and industrial influenced beats

lp5 if you want the most accessible of the abstract- try out song one and song ten on that disc (arch carrier is one of the song names, i believe.)

confield if you want to hear an audial equivelant to a math equation (which is nice in doses, but i don't recommend listening to the whole album unless you have other stimulus keeping you interested ie weed, maaaan)

Todd Burns, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Autechre really were at their creative peak around the time they (and Warp as a whole) made it big - when they ditched the archetypical sound of "Inaculabula" (which was surprisingly unremarkable by any standard) and really developed "the Autechre sound", ie the years of "Amber" and "Tri Repetae", and the EPs from the same period (especially "Anti" and "Garbage"), roughly '94-'96. That was the time when they influenced everyone and its dog, from Radiohead to Timbaland to Kruder & Dorfmeister to Aphex Twin, as well as the whole swarm of new IDM projects.

Somehow along the years, like every band in history, they got to the point where instead of just churning out quality tunes in the "heat of the moment", the momentum you get when you go "hey, we're on to something here", they sat down and began to *think* about their music and where the development should lead to - and that's the point where a band loses the plot. I feel that Autechre started to go down a path where each successive album/EP *had* to be more dissonant, harsher, less aesthetically pleasing - just for the sake of it. The balance between the sublime abstract weirdness and the charisma of the "listenable" warm synths and coherency has been tipping too much in the direction of "what can we do to fuck as much with the sound just to make it barely listenable". Somehow they're trapped in what people expect from them: to deliver the most abstract and mathematically precise form of music on the planet. And paradoxally, this expectation has made them turn into both extremely unlistenable (yet still worthwile, because the gratification of spending hours to "get" it is still a lovely experience) and extremely predictable music.

Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

They are stunning live. But Confield was fucking dull.

owen hatherley, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Confield is the music I've been hearing in my head since I was a little kid. De/re-construction applied to rhythm. I don't feel much resentment they beat me to it, though. Classic.

Dare, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Confield is the music I've been hearing in my head since I was a little kid.

Dare = time-travelling prodigy!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

eugh, I wasn't hearing "Firestarter," I was a well-behaved kid. Those sounds running around in my head were just augurs of the post- Post-Industrial age -- and I Am Its Prophet!

Dare, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Overall classic, though God knows they can work up a good head of dull now and then. A pal of mine claims to have used Tri Repeatae as his sex soundtrack exclusively for several months. I never met the woman in question. Now that I think about it, maybe there wasn't a woman involved.

lee g, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

CLASSIC: if for no other reason that they are 5 years ahead of everyone else.

I bet Confield will make sense in 2006.

If you were to hear Second Bad Vibel or Viral(as Gescom) on a loud club system you would get autechre. Autechre rules because they were a UK IDM act that you can actually dance to.

mt, Wednesday, 17 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Utterly, undeniably, without possibility of denial, with the fullest extent of utteration, classic.

Lee, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I guess you might call them "anal", but I don't think that makes them dull by any means. Tri Repetae in headphones while drowsy is the absolute juice. Their music somehow makes so much sense; I won't use the word "architectural", but it's very visual, like slowly moving your eyes across a complex surface and suddenly noticing that the surface isn't just a pattern - it has *depth*, a depth that reveals even more intricacies, relationships between sounds, varieties of grain, than you noticed at first. No matter how close you look, there are always more - little soundworms wriggling around, burrowing and digging, eating each other, multiplying. You go from imagining what the surface feels like to imagining what it's like to be inside the lattice itself - I swear you can almost *feel* this happen on certain tracks (especially on Tri Repetae).

This is one of those cases where, even if you don't like the group, you have to admit that they're pretty much classic.

Clarke B., Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the definition of mid-brow shit-tronica.

(just posting here for a special troll in my heart who i see didn't bother to air his own opinions.)

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tri Repetae in headphones while drowsy is the absolute juice

Indeed!

I'll say it again (I really remember discussing this before): pure soul music for the 21th century. Maybe forbidding at times. Cold? Inhuman? Never.

Omar, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the definition of mid-brow shit-tronica.

Jess, this isn't a Felix da Housecat thread!

Clarke B., Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha

ethan, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Do you like 'em, Eth?

Clarke B., Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why I Hate Autechre,
A Report By Little Jess Harvell, Aged 24

Just listen to most of the adjectives which get thrown around in discussing Autechre and you see the basic roots of what I find so off- putting about them: mathematical, architectural, scientific. (And the others are usually made up!) Fer instance, here’s Rob Young in The Wire: “Chiastic Slide harbours a maelstrom of fizzing detail, smudgy beats, shredded pulses, church organ, toxic noise hurtling towards the end of its half-life, pumice stones rubbed across the skull.” Now, purple prose aside, it sounds great on the surface, and I’ve certainly not been one to shy away from “toxic noise hurtling towards the end of it’s half-life” (although it’s not necessarily where my music listening resides right now), but the construction of it…using words like architectural and mathematical to describe said noise immediately puts me in the mind of Wallpaper magazine: carefully smudged, immaculately messy, arranged just so. I don’t want to live in the Hemlich homes for hipster bourgeoisie as presented in Wallpaper. Why would I want to listen to same?

Otherwise, if it’s all random happenstance of Akai’s sputtering jargon and MIDI gone wrong, then it’s just Merzbow, and fuck if I have any time for that. Debate the Akita-aesthetic all you wish, but if it’s just a lot of little noises piled up atop one another for no reason at all, then I’ll be down at the pub. Sure there’s the beatz…if that sort of thing doesn’t put you right to sleep so many years after Artificial Intelligence (you reference Pink Floyd and smoking weed on your record cover = you are hippies.) Sure these days the beatz are ripped, zipped, serrated, and otherwise “fizzing” with that “smudgy detail” (thank you Cubase, et al.) But frankly when I want that (and it’s in very small doses), I can get it from Mouse on Mars (or hell, anything in the Koln- Kompakt axis) with more (to these ears) of that supposed warmth and “humanity” (a right fucking odd thing to be looking for in electronic music, admittedly) everyone always seems to hear in Autechre.

Now it’s a very poor argument to dis a band because of their fans, but look at some of Autechre’s more high-profile supporters: The Wire (always suspect when it comes to anything with a beat), post-acid- jazz beatnik tossers like Kirk DeGeorgegegeogogrio (I couldn’t remember his name, which means unfortunately he won’t be able to Google this), and of course, every shit IDM act (and related) from 94- 97. They like to make claims like “well, Booth and Brown have deep roots in hiphop, electro, breakdancing…” First off, who the fuck cares? Does it provide some slight succor against the fact that the moonwalk breakbeats are a. unessential at best and b. if really a “homage” to electro or hiphop, come perilously close to typical IDM- vampirism. Tom really nailed it best: it wouldn’t sound as good as “Lord of the Null Lines” or even fucking “Planet Rock.”

I’ll allow the slightest margin for error, that you’re all hearing something that becomes a garbled mass of noise rather than signal once it passes from my ears to brain. But I just can’t shake this feeling that like a number of artists from the 90s – Tortoise, Beck, Mo Wax – we’re going to look back on Autechre-worship with a mixture of contempt, confusion, and bemusement. Middle-brow mood food for the marginally interesting.

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i love autechre!

ethan, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

but jess, surely the sundays act as a better comparison than hyper-on experience?

gareth, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Hyper-On comparison was just for Gage-O's 'you need to hear it on a monster sound system' comment. Lots of stuff sounds good on a monster sound-system. I don't know if the Sundays do though really.

Tom, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Wow, someone was worshipping Tortoise and Beck?

bnw, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

well, spin editors, although i don't know if they count as people...

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(that was posted because a. yes i believe everything said therein, but also b. because the certain someone from above hates my semi- serious ILM manifestos and was exceedingly happy that i didn't weigh in on the subject of autechre. so, just some rain for his sad little monkey parade.)

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

How is what you say about Autechre not true of BOC, Jess? (Who I think are probably worse than Autechre).

Tom, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am no jess, but BOC gets a lot of props for it's 60's hippy vibe which "humanizes" it. (I tend to think the definition of warmth and humanity is way too narrow.)

bnw, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

late period autechre (certainly chiastic slide onwards) is very BOC like, but more decayed)

who is the person jess is talking about?

gareth, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

off to bed now, but some thoughts on boc vs. autechre before tomorrow:

-fetishization of "process" over "feeling" (we're verging on "use other terms" territory here, but even booth and brown have admitted that much of ther output arises from equal parts a.d.d. and a tinkerers interest in what machines can do [and of course what noises they can make.])
-in keeping with the tinkerer metaphor: boc have seem to have staked out a particular patch and have obsessively - some might say until it's run fallow - worked it over. autechre have their patch too, but they seem far more likely than boc to throw you a curve which upends the whole apple cart and laugh while doing it. to me it's just more IDM-as-petulant-childs-crayon-box, free to smear their marks all over the clean, white walls of "proper notions of song." which leads into...
-ambience vs. assault (aka minimalism vs. maximalism? probably not, but hopefully you get what i'm barely getting at. ambient tone washes vs. static, clicks and noise. windham hill vs. evan parker?)

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i have a feeling tom dislikes boc more owing to the "nostalgia" red- herring, which i'm beginning to understand more and more. no more feeling in electronic music! or something.

I am no jess

i think this is a joke or a taking of my piss. i hope to god it is.

(and gareth, if you must know, it's sometimes lurker/poster/troll dr. funk - my first critic! - who apparently (to read his blog) thinks i'm dumber than pigshit, although he's yet to have the guts to say it on the board.)

jess, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i just heard the new Autechre ep "Gantz Gtaf" and it's the worst, most unlistenable piece of crap i've ever heard........

but when it comes out, the press (Wire specifically) will be heralding it as the new-sound... blah blah blah blah...

Baxter Wingnut, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

what new ep? more info please!

gareth, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

there's no news on warp yet, but there has been an ep's worth of material floating around in mp3 format lately that has the autechre sound and is labeled in such a way.

all signs point to a new ep, as they need to keep their name out here after their tour, i guess.

Todd Burns, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

come on you wusses they're more man parrish than derek bailey. "whinge whinge whinge disappeared up their own arses" etc. they've always seemed like quite chipper fellows to me. david toop however makes all music sound like wanky shit in print by getting far too excited by music we will mostly all be bored with once we've played the cd a few times

bob snoom, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

as for the new EP, there is already a review at absorb, here:

http://www.absorb.org/reviews/eps_10.html

i've listened to it a few times through already. it's ok enough i suppose. i can't tell if it's supposed to be a joke or not.

jason m., Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

it's a damn fine joke, if it is. i like it.

Todd Burns, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

from architecture, to wallpaper covering, to crayons coloring on -- if Autechre is all these things, per Jess' comments above, then the focus on 'process' isn't so far from the 'feeling' evoked: that of a child with blocks, building up and then sending it all tumbling down. That's entertaining enough for me.

Dare, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
Modern music is largely about atonal soundscapes which create abstract structures beneath the sometimes complex sounds. Autechre has in my opinion moved closer to that territory closer to the likes of modern experimental composers like Stockhausen or John Cage. If one is to attack experimental music because it isn't appealing then one would be better off listening to the Beatles or even Mozart which is waste deep in tonal melodies. If not don't bitch about absract sound music because we live in a postmodern world were the truth has become abstract so don't expect music to fall short of that either, because if you do your stupid and conservative and you have no valid knowledge on which to judge experimental electronic music.

JOnjjOnnjoN, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dag. Consider my mind blown.

adam, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The truth has become abstract? What was I doing when that happened, watching Perry Mason reruns or something? I wish people would at least call me when these major paradigm shifts happen, it sucks to feel out of the loop.

John Darnielle, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

JOnjjOnnjoN is my new god

mark s, Sunday, 26 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Saying that Autechre are atonal is a fallacy. A lot of their tracks (Garbagemx, Cichli, Arch Carrier, Pir, Goz Quarter etc) are at first impenetrable, but this is usually due to an alternative choice in time signature or instruments. It is not musically atonal. Get on Audiogalaxy and download the following tracks. Then listen to them all at least 5 times in one week.

Silverside, Slip, Piezo, Pen Expers, Uviol, Maphive6.1, Zeiss Contarex, Pir, Rae, Fold4 Wrap5, Arch Carrier, Cichli, Garbagemx, Leterel.

Then come back, change your above comments about Autechre and go out and buy their entire back catalogue ;-)

dog latin, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

dog latin is my new god

mark s, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Anvil Vapour" fucking kick butt. I was never excited by Autechre until that track.

phil, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

search: evan parker records.

destroy: euro-english newspeak.

jess, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Its not for want of trying. Too many people I respect rate them. I've listened very intensely to Incubula, Tri Repetae and Confield all and each time have been left completely cold. Obtuse, introverted, over elaborate, self-indulgent and just dull. They gave me, quite literally, a headache.

stevo, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

that's because you picked the three albums that are worst to start with. They're quite good, but you're tons better off getting into LP5, EP7 or Amber. Lovely.

dog latin, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight months pass...
"Waste Deep In Tonal Melodies" = Schoeneberg's long-deleted death metal record?

Clarke B., Tuesday, 28 January 2003 11:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic, clearly. Even if you DON'T like them, just look at all the soul-searching at the mere mention of their name here! You don't even have to hear their music to know that they've changed the world.

matt riedl (veal), Monday, 3 February 2003 21:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

heard a track off the new alb: its rilly rilly 1997 folks.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 13:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

What, as in 1997 Autechre or 1997 in general?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

it reminds me of a lot of electronic stuff that I was listening to round that time.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 13:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Autechre can make Merzbow listenable to the average electronic music nerd.

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 4 February 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
I am going to see them tonight. Tell me your live experiences.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 28 May 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

hm, i'm considering seeing them Sunday but i hardly listen to them anymore. post if the show is good or not to help me decide! kthx? (and is SND good live? and who in the hell is rob hall?)

Amon (eman), Saturday, 28 May 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Look near the end of this thread:

New Autechre album - April 2005

In short: they've been amazing on this tour.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 May 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

from that thread:

it also boasted the highest male-to-female ratio i've ever seen at a show.

i totally forgot about this aspect. think i'll save my money then.

Amon (eman), Saturday, 28 May 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

:-( You so lucky Roxy! Every time they play near me it's either sold out or I've had no money.

dog latin (dog latin), Saturday, 28 May 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

JOnjjOnnjoN's post upthread is awesome, but Jess' is even better. I used to kind of like them, but I can't see the appeal anymore for some reason. I always used to use 'em as background music, I must admit, and I don't really listen to anything as background music anymore. Not dud, anyway, but I don't think classic either.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 28 May 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

as a long time follower of autechre, i'd say that i have been disappointed by the last 3 albums. the mid nineties work, repetae, chisatic slide, lp5 are superb, both musically and sonically. there is a deep understanding of melody and harmony there, and the sonic constructions are often breathtaking. recently , however, i feel they have abandoned the emotion of their earlier work and are nto making the bold statements they once did.

however, i wouldn't write them off; i think they will come up with the goods again one day.

james thompson (nimhbus), Saturday, 28 May 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Missing Autechre on this tour = not catching Miles Davis in 1975. Ignore the haters and shoulder-shruggers: They killed it in Seattle.

Blightersrock (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 28 May 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link

That is, AUTECHRE killed it in Seattle.

Blightersrock (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 28 May 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard that in Chicago, ae weren't onstage till at least 4am. Also, I don't like the last three records.

L (Leee), Saturday, 28 May 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

should I go see them if I haven't yet caught up on Confield, Draft 7.30 and Untilted?

(I'm probably going to anyway... they must be at least semi-classic then)

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 28 May 2005 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Autechre are not the kind of band that reproduce their album material in a live setting. They improvise. On hardware. And it is as thrilling as experiencing a seasoned free-jazz outfit in their prime.

So not liking the last few albums--or being unfamiliar with them--is almost a moot point.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 29 May 2005 00:31 (eighteen years ago) link

2001 show in Oakland: one long 90 minute piece. arrythmic kick drum patterns & high hat sounds, and nightmarish bass line drills. one long evolving texture. very loud: in the back of the room, the kick drums made you feel like you were getting punched in the chest. at the front of the room, it was actually difficult to breathe regularly. 800 people at the beginning of the show whittled down to 200 within about 15 minutes; maybe about 100 people by the end, wild sustained applause from the survivors. made confield seem like a radio playlist. athough there were moments my attention wandered, by the end the sheer duration had totallty won me over, fantastic show.

2005 show last week: absolute 4/4 non-stop dance party, many pieces strict-tempo dj'ed together into one long mix. madly syncopated (seldom straight out four on the floor), but you could tap your foot or dance like a madman at all times. the recent abstract digital sounds of the last three records have been isolated and poured onto the grid, no multiple time-signature experiments. way, way, way more straightforward than untilted, and 100% new material -- absolutely nothing recognizable from any record. No traceable melodies, but tons of layered ambient sections and crescendos. once again, my attention wandered a bit in parts, but the end was rewarding and I sure hope mp3's turn up of this show, or even a release.

still doesn't quite sound like anything they've done before, but definitely way closer to 95/96 than 01/04. liked it.

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 29 May 2005 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I just saw Autechre play in Asheville, NC last night. It was pretty amazing, they just kept notching up the intensity more and more. It was funny seeing people trying to keep up with it. But it was all surprisingly danceable.

latebloomer: B Minus Time Traveler (latebloomer), Sunday, 29 May 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

i WAS AT THAT oAKLAND SHOW. dhs WAS BETTER.

L (Leee), Sunday, 29 May 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

they went on at 1 in chicago, l. people were dancing throughout their whole set, too. i thought the 2001 tour was better, but i was far from disappointed with this one - probably the best show for me this year so far. i am glad they continue to push themselves in new directions. snd were far more "hooky" on this tour, but autechre unflinchingly inhabit a world that is their own - mistakes, missteps, and mostly transcendent shit all included (yeah i am a hippie). i think it took about three tracks for them to hit their groove this time around, but when they hit it, they didn't lose it.

tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, agreed with Latebloomer. It just kept going up and up, very very intense, very danceable, very beat-oriented. They played in utter darkness.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 29 May 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i want to see them again!

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 29 May 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Incubulae is great, some decent spots here and there after that but overall, Auteche are a giant Dud!

biz, Sunday, 29 May 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

actually, its kind of strange, with all this folktronica nonsense of the last few years, that autechre feel more 'folky' than all of them, perhaps not in the use of traditional signifiers, but, in that englishness that is as much a part of them as any electro roots, that pastoral hills by slagheap tops,

the pennines, in other words

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 29 May 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Last chance to see them live for a while (afaik) in England see here: http://www.version.org.uk

I'm going, anyone that wants to say hi email me :)
Check out the rest of that line up! :-O

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 11:08 (eighteen years ago) link

i hadnt actually played any autechre stuff in a long while, and have only just got draft 7.30. i was a fan of confield, but it seemed a good place to wrap things up at the time. im in the mood for new stuff from them again now thuogh, but i dont think i like draft 7.30 very much

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

New album is quite nice although I must admit they seem to have hit an artistic rut since the last three albums have been fairly similar.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

i found a liveset on slsk, from april this year (i think in, maybe, lyon?) so im intyrigued to hear that, after what has been sdaid here about live material

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Can I Get a copy via Gmail or on soulseek? I'm doglatin.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

sure, no problem, when i get home

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

is your username still the same g? i'd like it too...

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the new album a lot more than either of the previous two. Seems like they've got a better handle on blending process music with more compositional stuff. Good balance of human and machine is more successful at fucking with/around expectations.

Disclaimer: I am very, very thirsty for quality idm, this may be a mirage.

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

No, dammit, it's good, it's really fucking good. PALMS TREES, AND ... A LAKE, FIG TREES....

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

wow, i have really mellowed on the autechre issue. i like bits (most of confeld, some of ep7, and some of lp5) now. not that i listen to them much. actually, maybe i will now.

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah this is nice. (ep7.)

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

2005 show last week: absolute 4/4 non-stop dance party, many pieces strict-tempo dj'ed together into one long mix. madly syncopated (seldom straight out four on the floor), but you could tap your foot or dance like a madman at all times.

I was at this show (dragged there by a girl in spite of whatever ratios). I'm not really a fan, I also like confield but haven't been impressed by the last couple albums and don't really care for most "melodic" autechre. But yes this show was a bit different. The focus on hard hitting syncopation was a minor revelation, the timbres of "Drop it like it's Hot" splintering at almost drum and bass tempo without losing a rhythmic anchor (some moments were rather "twitchy droid leg"/graphic offshore style). Tiring a bit what w/ one austere slab after another, but a good deal more than I had anticipated.

One problem was that nearly everybody insisted upon standing around in the dark to watch a couple of guys you couldn't even see. What little dancing there was ranged from antithetical drunken swaying to pillow fight against myself "madman" stuff. Very little rhythm-to-body connectivity but the possibility was there, it wasn't all just twiddly bullshit.

xcixxorx, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

(i have the show now g... hope you got it too!)

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 06:32 (eighteen years ago) link

classic, i just wish more warp bands would play live local to myself.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i havent heard the geneva show yet, but ive played some of untilted now. its...ok, but im not overly into it. i do prefer it to draft 7.30, but confield was the last thing of theirs i really liked.

on my mp3 player this morning, i forgot that i had the autechre at coachella liveset (1999 i think?). this is really good, thuogh i havent recognised anything off it yet. theres an amazing electroey track, which is one of the best things ive heard off them, not sure if they consider stuff like this too 'straightforward' for the lps or not. its pretty warehouseparty

heres an mp3 of it:

Autechre at Coachella, Track 3

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 2 June 2005 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm surprised at the Confield love here. When it came out even the most rabid fans were split about whether it was good or not.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 June 2005 09:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it was just a slow but steady grower - even more so than usual that is - and also far removed enough from their usual style to make people scratch their heads and go 'what the...?' for a little while.

ledge (ledge), Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:26 (eighteen years ago) link

geneva sounded v boring to me this morning :-(

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 2 June 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe you've gotta be in the right frame of mind. I have the Geneva set, and the London one queued up in slsk but I've been putting off listening to them till... I dunno. Till I can replicate the same kind of late night, dark, hot, crowded, and above all LOUD atmosphere of the club. Hey maybe we could give it a go in Spain!

ledge (ledge), Thursday, 2 June 2005 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i forgot that i had the autechre at coachella liveset (1999 i think?)

I believe I have this somewhere and IIRC, it was the most "conventional" (for lack of a better word) set I've ever heard from them, i.e. songs that sounded like the recorded versions, they weren't trying to pummel the audience, and so on.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i probably wasn't in the right frame of mind (i was marking exams, in fact). what are the filename details for the london one?

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Interview with Autechre as part of Paul Morley's Guide To Musical Genres: Glitch. listenagainable here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/musicclub/doc_musicalgenres.shtml

(web page needs more details. i guess he's saving that for the book)

koogs, Thursday, 19 June 2008 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Bit of non-seq this:

Tune in to find out everything you ever wanted to know about psych-folk, glitch, twee, post-rock, emo and perfect pop in the company of Lou Reed, Billy Bragg and Bernard Butler amongst others.

NickB, Thursday, 19 June 2008 10:21 (fifteen years ago) link

well that was a load of balls. why pretend it's about "glitch" if yer mostly gonna talk about bog standard idm and early electronic music?

ledge, Thursday, 19 June 2008 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Paul Morley on the new Autechre album Oversteps

Doran, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that going to be in the sleeve notes? Morley wrote something similar for (the best of) New Order years back.

Discordian, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a "blog" is the only info I have.

Here are the tour dates etc:

Autechre
announce new album 'Oversteps'

released on CD/Special edition Vinyl / digital on March 22nd
UK + European tour dates also announced

http://www.bangonpr.com/images/ul/gallery_1370_large.jpg

Autechre will release their new album ‘Oversteps’ on March 22nd on Warp Records.
The album will be available on CD, digitally and as a deluxe vinyl edition.
Artwork for all formats is by The Designers Republic.

Deluxe Vinyl Edition (exclusive to independent retailers):
- Double heavyweight 180gram vinyl, each disc packed in its own printed inner and outer card sleeves
- 900mm x 600mm double-sided poster printed on Offenback ultra fine stock, folded within its own card sleeve
- Housed in printed and debossed rigid slipcase

Tracklisting:
01. r ess
02. ilanders
03. known(1)
04. pt2ph8
05. qplay
06. see on see
07. Treale
08. os veix3
09. O=0
10. d-sho qub
11. st epreo
12. redfall
13. krYlon
14. Yuop

The album is available to pre-order now at www.bleep.com/autechre-oversteps , where WAVs and MP3s of the album are included free with all vinyl and CD orders (and will be available on day of release)

In addition, Autechre embark on an extensive UK + European tour in March:

Mar.11 Manchester @ Pure - Ticketline.co.uk / www.boomkat.com
Mar.12 Birmingham @ The Rainbow - www.theticketsellers.co.uk
Mar.13 Minehead @ Bloc Weekender - www.blocweekend.com
Mar.15 Nottingham @ Stealth - www.stealthattack.co.uk
Mar.16 Glasgow @ Sub Club - http://bit.ly/6Wdx36
Mar.17 Leeds @ The Wardrobe – www.wegottickets.com
Mar.18 Brighton @ Pavillion Theatre - www.brightondome.org
Mar.19 Lille @ Tri Postal
Mar.20 Paris @ Locomotive
Mar.21 Nantes @ Olympic - www.olympic.asso.fr
Mar.28 Ljibulana @ Kino Siska - http://www.kinosiska.si
Mar.29 Budapest @ A38 - www.a38.hu
Mar.30 Vienna @ Flex - www.flex.at
Mar.31 Brno @ Fleda - www.fleda.cz
Apr.02 Copenhagen @ Concerthall - www.dr.dk/Koncerthuset
Apr.03 Oslo @ Park Teatre - www.billettservice.no
Apr.04 Gothberg @ Nefertiti - www.nefertiti.se
Apr.05 Aarhus @ Voxhall - www.voxhall.dk
Apr.06 Hamburg @ Uebel & Gefährlich - www.uebelundgefaehrlich.com
Apr.07 Amsterdam @ Melkweg - www.melkweg.nl
Apr.09 Brussels @ AB (Domino Fest) - www.abconcerts.be
Apr.10 London - venue & tickets announced Feb 1st - www.warp.net

Doran, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

09. O=0

o_0

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, cheers for ignoring the other thread.

StanM, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I did a search for Autechre and didn't find anything! What's it called?

Doran, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, cheers for ignoring the other thread.

― StanM, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 14:31 (5 days ago) Bookmark

^LOL

jed_, Monday, 18 January 2010 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

OK Ijust heard a "leak" and if what I heard is real... heck who cares... the last two tracks are pretty damn amazing.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Ambient as all fuck.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:18 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah? where you hear this "leak?"

Lowell N. Behold (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Dunno, tbh sorry.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Slsk or something i think.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's not them. It's this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ompcBQvK65I

StanM, Saturday, 23 January 2010 10:07 (fourteen years ago) link

( /ese guys )

StanM, Saturday, 23 January 2010 10:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah Rob mentioned that earlier today. In all honesty it was ok though; I can see why an artist would piggyback on this shit. Bit lame, but eh. I liked the last 2 tracks!

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Saturday, 23 January 2010 10:21 (fourteen years ago) link

The rest is quite good as well - too bad we've now heard it in an Autechre context. It would have reminded me of Ae without this hoax thing, but now this A:C album will never be a legitimate thing in its own right anymore :-/

StanM, Saturday, 23 January 2010 10:56 (fourteen years ago) link

that youtube track ain't bad and I understand why the dude did this. (not likely that I would ever have listened to the track otherwise.) but man, promoting yourself this way really is lame. it's like, are you begging for people to just write you off as one of the hundreds of autechre clones before they even hear one note?

original bgm, Sunday, 24 January 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

autechre leaks are nevvverrr real

CaptainLorax, Sunday, 24 January 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, this isn't the first time that we've had masquerade Autechre leaks before -- it's happened since Draft, and probably with Confield too. And I think other Warpers/IDM dickfaces have had this happen to them too.

Leee, Sunday, 24 January 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, there have def been fake afx leaks too

original bgm, Sunday, 24 January 2010 23:46 (fourteen years ago) link

It happened with Confield - there, the leaked version was significantly better than the actual version. If anybody happens to have a tracklisting of that fake version . . .

with hidden noise, Sunday, 24 January 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Wait is this Autechre putting out fake leaks to protect their album or is this dudes, with no relation to them, distributing their own stuff under Autechre's name?

EDB, Sunday, 24 January 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Confield was the last autechre album I really liked.. well there was one really cool track on the ep that came right after confield. The song sounded like a roller coaster going up a hill...

Pen Expers on Confield sounds like it could be an audio equivalent to rape

CaptainLorax, Monday, 25 January 2010 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

And the Lentic Catacrecis (sp?) Was probably the most brilliant track on Confield imo

CaptainLorax, Monday, 25 January 2010 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link

The WATTM forum crowd are working on a deliberate fake at the moment too, but its more along the lines of the "no line on the horizon" one we did here ie just for fun.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 25 January 2010 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link

WATMM, rather.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 25 January 2010 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I like pretty much all autechre but confield is my fave from the last couple of years as well.

still, "sublimit" off of untilted is dooooope. the 2005 live sets too.

original bgm, Monday, 25 January 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Pen Expers on Confield sounds like it could be an audio equivalent to rape surprise sex

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Monday, 25 January 2010 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Did you know Pen Expers and Kate Bush's "running up that hill" play together perfectly? Theres a YT doubler clip ouf it somewhere.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 25 January 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, there have def been fake afx leaks too

to be fair half the fake afx leaks were rdj tho

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 25 January 2010 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh actually no, watmm arent doing anything.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 25 January 2010 10:41 (fourteen years ago) link

that youtube track ain't bad and I understand why the dude did this. but man, promoting yourself this way really is lame.

Did Altered Carbon himself wrap up his stuff as a fake Autechre, or was it just some bored internet type as a prank?

(Precedent on both sides in the IDM scene I guess. napster was full of Marumari tracks with name acts in the filenames. Meanwhile, a few years back there was a Boards of Canada fake which was actually part of a CiM album which some guy had downloaded and decided to rename; nothing to do with CiM himself and I hope nobody ever held that against him.)

canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 25 January 2010 10:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Back when I made IDM stuff, one of my tracks "Litter Duty" made it onto a Boards of Canada bootleg comp. I can't remember any more whether this was a mislabelling error, or some prank I thought I'd pull as a student.

dog latin, Monday, 25 January 2010 11:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Altered Carbon himself wrap up his stuff as a fake Autechre, or was it just some bored internet type as a prank?

yeah, this occurred to me after I had posted that... I have no idea, actually.

original bgm, Monday, 25 January 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

lot of chime-y interludes on the new leak. sounds legit.

Lowell N. Behold (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 8 February 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i reckon i could spot an ae fake at fifty paces. is it leaked in the usual places?

take me to your lemur (ledge), Monday, 8 February 2010 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Autechre FACT mix - no tracklisting avail, tho.

http://www.factmag.com/2010/02/08/fact-mix-122-autechre/

De que estas hablando? (Tannenbaum Schmidt), Monday, 8 February 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

The last AE album was really good after spending several years in the wilderness. I'm looking forward to this one.

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i hope they're better than the first 30 minutes of that mix 8)

(also the tags don't correspond to the filenames)

koogs, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

those german broadcast clips sound cool. I'm excited.

original bgm, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Is the Autechre concept still relevant for people any more? I used to be amazed by what they used to do - the hyper-complex gymnastic beats and uncanny beauty of their melodies were awe-inspiring at the time of LP5 and EP7. How quickly though, have innovations in music technology moved on since the days when artists would have to rip their machines to bits or invent infinitesimally mindbending trigger sequences to create these sounds? We've now got programs that can, at a click, reach into an audio chord and alter the individual notes within them; applications that can warp, stretch and mould beats like putty; commercial plugins that can artificially mimic the randomness of human-like musicianship - and all this is being done throughout the musical spectrum from glo-fi to dubstep to pure pop. So what I'm wondering is - is the music of the future now so current that Autechre are being beaten at their own game? Have they hit a glass ceiling? If not, what are they now doing to push things further? And what am I gaining by listening to this band whose appeal was once that they were doing things that no one else could even imagine?

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

this band whose appeal was once that they were doing things that no one else could even imagine?

What if the appeal was more simple than that? What if the appeal was (and remains) "whatever they're doing, it sounds good and I like it"?

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 8 February 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah - now i take that absolutely 100% into account.

autechre, being certainly up until confield, one of my favourite bands. but i couldn't play someone, for example, Chiastic Slide anymore and expect them to be impressed by it. Music in general is now capable of making these sounds and doing them better and more effortlessly. Tim Exile's "Listening Tree" from last year basically takes the Autechre model, adds David Gahan-esque vocals and runs with it, filling it with a dark pop brilliance that leaves them sounding like a clunky old robot. But it's not just Warp stuff that does this of course.

there has always been more to autechre's work than mere artisanship, but it did play a large part in what they did. Int he same way that technical brilliance can be the reason for listening to a lot of metal etc.

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I've actually been thinking about this listening to old harmonia, cluster, early kraftwerk, etc...

now, I wasn't around but at the time but I imagine that the electronic/psychedelic hybrid probably sounded quite unique then. that doesn't really factor into my enjoyment these days and I think that the music holds up as more than just a tech demo. way more. plus, the vintage instruments sound cool!

ymmv but I could see the same being said for autechre. the tech aspect to their sound is certainly less impressive but "whatever they're doing, it sounds good and I like it"

original bgm, Monday, 8 February 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

autechre, being certainly up until confield, one of my favourite bands. but i couldn't play someone, for example, Chiastic Slide anymore and expect them to be impressed by it.

Impressed due to it being highly technical, or because it's good music? I could picture someone being still impressed because it's a good tune.

Music in general is now capable of making these sounds and doing them better and more effortlessly. Tim Exile's "Listening Tree" from last year basically takes the Autechre model, adds David Gahan-esque vocals and runs with it, filling it with a dark pop brilliance that leaves them sounding like a clunky old robot.

The greatness of clunky old robot sounds aside, is music that sounds like its of an era or dated a bad thing? You just made me want to check out this Tim Exile album, but I am not sure this sounds like an indictment of Autechre.

But it's not just Warp stuff that does this of course.

o rly

mh, Monday, 8 February 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

fact mix is good morning listening. beatmatching Roedelius' 'Übern Fluss' with that hip hop track made me crack up.

which Cabaret Voltaire is that an hour in again? & if anyone can trainspot the dubby tracks that start in @ 1:09:00 (Flying Lizards?), I'd be obliged. or man, this thing at 1:16:00 is Cabs solo stuff, like Mallender's solo ep? some of this is pretty familiar but it's been years, and it's sounding a lot better than I remember

Milton Parker, Monday, 8 February 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Tim Exile's a bit cheesy compared to Autechre. A bit barroque, a bit Glass Spider, Bowie.

Remember that Autechre started off making really simple music and they were great then. If anything they took the envelope pushing thing slightly too far. It became too abstract and fell apart. For people who don't like to have to count along to records like myself, what they're doing now is an improvement.

Doran, Monday, 8 February 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I think even at the time of Incunabula, there stuff wasn't considered that simple.

I probably wasn't being very clear earlier as I was at work. Chiastic Slide, will always be appreciable to many because it was made in the way it was (like Kraftwerk is still appreciable today). But I'm guessing at what role Autechre's music plays in 2010 when everyone has access to computer programs that can replicate Autechre's previously painstaking techniques. I don't see Brown & Booth being happy to sit on their laurels making MAX/MSP patches just like everyone else forever and ever.

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Grrrr... dinner time now - that didn't make sense either.

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Is the Autechre concept still relevant for people any more?

They are still more ae-sthetically pleasing to me than other IDM groups.

They still have done things that other IDM groups haven't accomplished (to my knowledge). For instance, they did some songs where you can still hear notes that are no longer there (and I remembered them mentioning stuff like that in one of their interviews). I still vision Autechre as top of the line innovators of experimentation even if I don't care much for the last couple albums.

stop assuming I assumed something LOL (CaptainLorax), Monday, 8 February 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

is the music of the future now so current that Autechre are being beaten at their own game?

I dunno. Hate to sound rockist but technology only gets you so much. I think they use it better than most.

scratch paper (lukas), Monday, 8 February 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

In their prime, Ae got by on being the pioneering experimental act; whose influences stemmed as much from hip-hop and graf culture as avant-garde architecture; who championed the art of circuit bending and algorithmic composition to create sculptured mathematical sound-art; but who also displayed a Gorecki-an knack for hide-and-seek extra-human melodies that only revealed themselves through intensive listening.

But how can Autechre continue when the dubsteppers are creating these incredible experimental soundscapes that you can dance to? When pop and r'n'b producers are moulding and shaping sounds beyond human imagination whilst still maintaining a sexual sheen? Does Autechre's brutal, often ugly intellectualism become redundant when modern bedroom producers can recreate their techniques without putting a sequencer through a food condenser, and make it pleasant to listen to as well?

I fully realise that these questions make me sound like I don't "get" Autechre - really I do. And while I thought pretty much everything between Confield and Untilted was (come on face it) the electronic equivalent of Yngwie Malmsteen playing a 24-string guitar with his arse-cheeks, Quaristice was a surprisingly welcome pull away from the brink of total meltdown.

The difference between albums like Draft7.30 and EP7 wasn't just down to method, it was conceptual too. EP7 remains their most interesting work because each track has a tangible concept that it is based around. Draft is pure electronic gymnastics, probably fascinating to MAX/MSP dorks but little interest to those looking for beauty in the random/not random jitter.

So the reason I'm interested in this next album is to see where they go next. What tricks do Booth and Brown have up their sleeves? What is the 2010 equivalent of circuit-bending and how will Ae outrun their competitors?

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Well I've heard it, and its nothing like the last couple of albums. Its more ambient and much prettier.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 8 February 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I think it may divide fans a bit actually!

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 8 February 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Has it really leaked yet Trayce?

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, the actual album is now circulating.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 8 February 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

When pop and r'n'b producers are moulding and shaping sounds beyond human imagination whilst still maintaining a sexual sheen?

this just ain't so. sure they're using some strange noises and inventive arrangements, but no way is pop or rnb approaching ae-like levels of sculptural weirdness.

take me to your lemur (ledge), Monday, 8 February 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

DL I think the point is that Autechre fans (such as you and me) enjoy the off-putting strangeness for its own sake. It's not so much that they're creating "incredible experimental soundscapes", it's that they make their listeners feel like they've really worked to get to the chewy center. It's what has always set Autechre apart from AFX, the Orb or what have you. I guess you could argue that in their prime they were pushing Max/MSP in interesting new ways, but I'm not sure you could keep the argument up for long. There have always been lots of talented producers. Autechre have been pioneers of the machine aesthetic more than the machine technique. I say this as one who considers them beyond brilliant.

scratch paper (lukas), Monday, 8 February 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess what I'm trying to say is that you can enjoy Autechre without believing that they are ***INNOVATING*** at all times.

scratch paper (lukas), Monday, 8 February 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

DL yeah as of yesterday or day before, at least according to Modey. I'm pretty convinced - it sounds damn good.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 8 February 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

that they make their listeners feel like they've really worked to get to the chewy center.

Yeah I relate to this. Ive always found Ae really... difficult. Since being with a big Ae fan with a very musical ear, who points out complex and winding little melodic or rhythmic passages Id've otherwise totally not even noticed, it is more rewarding.

Theyre still not a band I like putting on while I'm doing the housework or reading, mind you. They're too much work for that haha.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 8 February 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

you can enjoy Autechre without believing that they are ***INNOVATING*** at all times

More importantly, you can enjoy Autechre without BEING INVESTED IN believing that they are innovating at all times. I always feel like their best stuff sounds totally inhuman - the kind of music computers would make for the entertainment of other computers - but that's just a description; it's not a value judgement. Dog latin, you come off like Autechre not being weirder/more obsessively intricately hi-tech than everyone else on earth, and doing things you can't possibly figure out how they did them, is a deal-breaker for you. That's a really weird, crabbed approach to art, seems to me. Would you elaborate, and/or tell me I'm wrong?

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 8 February 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Draft is pure electronic gymnastics, probably fascinating to MAX/MSP dorks but little interest to those looking for beauty in the random/not random jitter.

I dunno man, 'draft 7.30' / 'grantz graf' are my favorites of their whole trajectory. the melodies they used to play on their keyboards are still there, they're just completely baked into the sound design of each track, and those sounds are beautiful in and of themselves. and when they do return to the keyboards... last track on 'grantz graf' is one of the most beautiful pieces of music they've ever done, when that high descending line comes in for the first time, it's just effortless

Milton Parker, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

pfff, Untilted rocks like fuck!

and even the the old "IDM = lol electronic fretwank" opinion/cliche yet again.

fndgo, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link

(Trayce - I had no idea you and Modex hooked up [this is correct, non?]- so pleased for you both!)

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL it happened 2 years ago! :) I thought you knew :) yeah its been awesome =)

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Monday, 8 February 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

unperson, ledge, lukas and everyone above are of course, otm - because it's obvious when listening to the best of Autechre's music that there's more to them than their technical brilliance. Quaristice was a very smooth sidestep, but I did get worried at one point, around the time of Untilted and Draft that they'd become quite happy to coast along.

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost nope didn't know until the other day haha!

dog latin, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

One more thing about Ae before I go to bed. What were people's overall opinions on Draft7.30 and Untilted? I don't HATE these albums I must say. They have certain merits.

In mind Draft7.30 is the sound my brain would make if I were kidnapped by pirates and forced to remember an entire Funkadelic album so as not to be seasick during a storm.

Untilted makes me think of a janitor sweeping up a stadium after the world's biggest breakdance event.

dog latin, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Untilted is phenomenal, but my memories of Draft don't make me want to return to it.

scratch paper (lukas), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link

also love untilted.("sublimit" people!!)

I throw draft on every once in a while and nothing sticks. all these years later and I'm still not sure how I feel about it. I imagine every ae fan has an album or twelve that fit this bill.

original bgm, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link

there just weren't enough melodies in draft (/geir)

dog latin, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Untilted makes me think of a janitor sweeping up a stadium after the world's biggest breakdance event.

lol

original bgm, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

someone could write an algorithm that generates an infinite array of ae lolsoundslike similies

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link

o rly

brb throwing all my autechre CDs out the window

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I can understand being drawn to music due to it being innovative, but there has to actually be something there to keep you there, right? The idea of Autechre being "beaten at their own game" means nothing to me, as their game is to make music that people will presumably want to listen to. I don't think there's some producer->consumer contract where both sides agree that it has to be innovative.

I kind of cringed at the idea of Kraftwerk being appreciable only because their music was "made in the way it was." It's appreciable because it's good music!

The point of some Autechre work, to me, when it's not immediately accessible or danceable and certainly not hummable, is that it can evoke feeling. There are a couple parts of Confield that make my teeth hurt and make me feel uncomfortable as they sound so alien. I don't necessarily get pleasure from that, but I definitely get something, so I return to it on occasion.

mh, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link

extra-human melodies that only revealed themselves through intensive listening.

HUH?? I've listened to them all these years, and huh??

I can't listen to Draft or Untilted -- hate the compressed sound. In fact, I think Confield used up all the patience I had to try to get into subsequent Autechre releases, so that I don't even have time to try to "get" Quaristice.

A Mermaid... Doing It With Captain Morgan (Leee), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Quaristice is pretty accessible IMO, some of the outtake material even moreso.

mh, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

New album sounds like Plaid imo

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 05:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Good '90s Plaid???? Say yes, Tray!

A Mermaid... Doing It With Captain Morgan (Leee), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Well Ive only heard Double Figure, so...

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean obv it sounds like Ae, really! But it has these Plaidy bits here and there.

millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link

someone could write an algorithm that generates an infinite array of ae lolsoundslike similies

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o rly

brb throwing all my autechre CDs out the window

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Pretty sure that wasn't meant as an indictment of Ae, but of the goofy things people sometimes say about their sound. (Still not sure I agree -- in this thread at least people are saying plenty of perceptive, non-goofy things.)

Enoki Doki (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah

btw "Know" (or whatever the 3rd track is called) is gorgeous

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link

This whole premise that Autechre were great because they were more technologically adept than their contemporaries is ridiculous, and frankly, more than a bit elitist. And by the way, have you heard that all rock music from the past thirty years is crap because no modern day guitarist can shred like Hendrix?

But how can Autechre continue when the dubsteppers are creating these incredible experimental soundscapes that you can dance to?

Of course it's obvious to everyone that experimental soundscapes you can dance to >> plain old experimental soundscapes. Oh wait, it's not obvious, that's a completely messed up strawman argument. Why should I continue listening to the Rolling Stones or MBV or Yo La Tengo when Pink makes rock music with better videos and cooler outfits?

This discussion actually makes me angry. I think I need to get off the thread.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, and in my first paragraph, I'm not claiming that Autechre are/were the Hendrix of tech wizardry. I've never tried to seriously compare the "difficulty" involved in making Autechre's music with that of their contemporaries. It's never even occurred to me to try. I only care about what the end product sounds like -- besides, seemingly complex sounds can be obtained simply, and vice versa. I prefer to remain agnostic about the electronic music-making process, for the most part, and just go by what I hear.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:06 (fourteen years ago) link

hehe, calm down guys - as i mentioned before, my rhetoric was meant half-baitingly in order to generate response, not as a critique of Ae.

dog latin, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:10 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, pretty sure everyone on here is on the same page, more or less.

original bgm, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Yngwie Malmsteen playing a 24-string guitar with his arse-cheeks

Can we please figure out a way to erase this horrendous image from my brain, kthx.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/106530/ae_wire.jpg

Lowell N. Behold (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 13 February 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

When I listened to half this album a few days ago I was under the impression that this album was 'pure atmospheres' as opposed to 'pure moods'. I wasn't feeling any emotion from it, perhaps because it was only an early listen. But on a track or two I did imagine a marsh at night full of tall trees with reddish bark being lit up by passing will 'o' the wisps among tin sounding machinery still churning away in the saturated overgrowth of moon-lit marsh

Needs more listens

CaptainLorax, Saturday, 13 February 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Needs more listens

As usual it takes me a long time to 'get' whatever they're doing. Finally caught up to Confield and it's one of my favorites.

Oversteps threw me because it is unabashedly beautiful a la Amber - I was used to their records being ultracomplex transmissions from some unfathomable alien intelligence and wasn't really ready for anything 'pretty'. Hangs together as a coherent record much better than Quaristice did, which felt like random sketches and experiments (didn't help that there were, what, four different versions of it). Seems like their career has come full circle and that this is a sort of return to what they were doing in 93-94, but it doesn't feel like they haven't learned anything along the way.

If there is dubstep out there as 'advanced' as what AE is doing (and I'm a big dubstep fan) I'd love to hear it, I sure don't know of anything that's as interesting. But the audiences are different and so are the expectations, dubstep's a functional club music and AE are more academic, closer to the electroacoustic/IRCAM tradition.

Brakhage, Sunday, 14 February 2010 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I still don't know if I quite understand Confield yet, and it's what, nine years old this year(!)

I think my main problem with it was the harshness of certain rhythms, particularly on tracks like Cfern where the bass drum sounds like a close-mic'd football being launched about a tiny metal room. And while that may sound interesting, it just gets irritating after a while. I think I've mentioned once before about the time I once ran feverishly around my room in a waking fright-mare when my stereo alarm decided to rouse me to the strains of Bine one morning. It took about a minute for me to realise what was going on and where I was. All I can say is I was terrified!

dog latin, Sunday, 14 February 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Autechre is a "tracks band" for me. I like around half of Confield a lot and appreciate the rest. Bine moves like an assembly line into a threatening trash compactor if I remember correctly. It's one of the better tracks on Confield.

CaptainLorax, Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

some of this reminds me of the synths on the apocalypse now soundtrack

Cfern where the bass drum sounds like a close-mic'd football being launched about a tiny metal room

that is certainly one of the better autechre similes i've read

nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

throbbing like an amputated limb while weightless choirs ascend

4/10

nakhchivan, Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone have the track running times for like the first 3-4 tracks? Trying to figure out if I have the correct "leak." Don't worry, Ima buy the damn thing.

SourPatchCorpse, Sunday, 14 February 2010 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link

trying to talk about autechre's music without relying on ridiculous similes is basically impossible in my experience. i especially like the one on quadristice that sounds like an enormous robot attacking a chicken farm (you know, that one)

dog latin, Sunday, 14 February 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

https://youtu.be/IuN51P16HHY

getting psyched for Denver. Anybody seen them recently in North America?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 28 September 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

https://youtu.be/3-vEXc6B57k
Oberman Knocks - Dilankex (Autechre remix)

that BLOC clip (live?) is too brief... this Oberman Knocks remix is a monster. god bless 'em (the mighty 'Aut)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 28 September 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link

Going to the SF show. Can't wait!

octobeard, Monday, 28 September 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link

seriously hoping for a proper uk tour, as well as that unpublicised sold out wee hours of the morning london show.

steppenwolf in white van speaker scam (ledge), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 08:04 (eight years ago) link

the Metro/Chicago set (secondary link) is brilliant stuff.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 3 October 2015 22:51 (eight years ago) link

that's really good, but wish the audience would stfu

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 4 October 2015 02:01 (eight years ago) link

the brooklyn show tonight was sick

the tune was space, Sunday, 4 October 2015 04:54 (eight years ago) link

Anybody going to the Philly show tomorrow?

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link

https://archive.org/details/Autechre-Warp25-Krakow

listening back to this (excellent) bootleg, there are some interesting bits of overlap, with variations.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link

Enjoying Krakow show so far!!! Goddamnit I can't wait. Some juicy beats they're slinging in that set.

octobeard, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link

On the off chance anybody is at Union Transfer tonight, I'm the (well, a) guy in the brown striped sweater and blue glasses. Long hair, expression of vague unease, probably very very drunk

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link

https://www.mixcloud.com/keyfumbler/autechre-portsmouth-new-hampshire-2015/

this one's monstrous

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 12 October 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...

hello https://clyp.it/2akno5zg

0 / 0 (lukas), Saturday, 14 May 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link

XD

nakhchivan, Saturday, 14 May 2016 00:14 (seven years ago) link

Oh my, yes

MatthewK, Saturday, 14 May 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link

oooooooooohhhhhhhhh

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 14 May 2016 01:26 (seven years ago) link

dope track

map, Saturday, 14 May 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link

with headphones it's spectacular, especially around the 3:00 mark when the arse drops away and it gradually sounds like the deepest hole ever. through a macbook speaker it totally sounds like they're taking the piss.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 14 May 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

It sounds pretty dope on these Macbook speakers!

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Saturday, 14 May 2016 02:23 (seven years ago) link

it sounds like a couple of blokes taking the cunting arse out of piss

nakhchivan, Saturday, 14 May 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

basically my reaction to confield until the 7th play through

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 14 May 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

it sounds like a couple of blokes taking the cunting arse out of piss

Wait till the other kids in the clubhouse hear about this sick burn.

MatthewK, Saturday, 14 May 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

i'm in the clubhouse i heard already, p kewl

map, Saturday, 14 May 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link

i heard thru my sick bose noise cancelling cans

map, Saturday, 14 May 2016 03:12 (seven years ago) link

noise cancelling cans

so you heard nothing at all haw see what i did there

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 14 May 2016 03:16 (seven years ago) link

lolz

map, Saturday, 14 May 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link

they cancel noise not noize

map, Saturday, 14 May 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link

neway this isn't really noize imo but it's definitely heavy

map, Saturday, 14 May 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

Not for me.

Mr. Hathaway. (jed_), Saturday, 14 May 2016 04:23 (seven years ago) link

Autechre does dub

First thoughts: lots of ©æ™® textures. Harks back to Confield era somewhat. Dope.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Saturday, 14 May 2016 08:23 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExnKj30jYp4

nakhchivan, Saturday, 14 May 2016 10:30 (seven years ago) link

I would bet the new record is a 'best bits from the past couple tours' thing (though what would be really cool if it drew from whatever soundboards they have from their entire career)

Always wanted a version of 444 with a sax solo so was very stoked to find this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6nz5aymN20

Brakhage, Saturday, 14 May 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

There's an hour-long all-AE show by those guys on YT too, this Cichli is from there

Brakhage, Saturday, 14 May 2016 16:34 (seven years ago) link

That is fantastic. Thanks for the link!

Mr. Hathaway. (jed_), Saturday, 14 May 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

hey, this is about me

0 / 0 (lukas), Sunday, 15 May 2016 04:12 (seven years ago) link

http://www.factmag.com/2016/05/14/hear-a-new-autechre-track-feed-1/

StanM, Sunday, 15 May 2016 08:58 (seven years ago) link

obviously this song is glorious

the full 490

nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 May 2016 10:45 (seven years ago) link

seventy sevens indeed sir

lol

nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 May 2016 10:54 (seven years ago) link

ahhh hahh hah that number code/date on the cover, excellent. didn't they already do this with Exai though?

Brakhage, Monday, 16 May 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

oasis_be-here-now.jpg

Brakhage, Monday, 16 May 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link

I'm starting to think that theory might be wrong.

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

I'm starting to think that I'll never listen to autechre ever again.

Mr. Hathaway. (jed_), Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link

it wasn't a bad theory as these things go

xp: I don't know, it's like existential, man. (why am I listening to this? is it possible to like or dislike this? what's the meaning of life? is this music and does that even matter?) etc :)

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

new album out

ANU (sisilafami), Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

has it leaked?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Is it washable?

Noel Emits, Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

has it leaked?

This is what happens when there are three Autechre threads on SNA that I had nothing to do with.

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Lentic Catacheesis

pomenitul, Thursday, 3 December 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

I randomly stumbled upon an autechre podcast called gonkcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gonkcast-an-autechre-podcast/id1533479657) and decided to listen a bit. Rather than start from the beginning I decided to start with the Confield episode. I enjoyed the episode.

A couple of remarks:
- These guys were under the impression that what they called autechre's "middle period" (confield to untilted) was the least popular era of autechre, which has not generally been the impression I had from the various message boards I've frequented where autechre was discussed
- I liked the discussion about why this sounds like completely random sounds to some people (something like how it's a bit like freeform jazz or something of the sort except that since the sounds are computer generated, people don't see the human hand that is guiding all of this and just assume that it is computer generated randomness)
- It was fun hearing these track names pronounced: one of the hosts wondering if he should say VEE Scose Poise or 6 Scose Poise, a mention of "el-sec" (in my mind it was always 'else-cue'), at some point one of the hosts starts talking about "drug use" and it took me about 30 seconds to realize he was talking about drukqs

silverfish, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link

Cool, will give it a try, as long as they don't have annoying podcast voices.

one of the hosts wondering if he should say VEE Scose Poise or 6 Scose Poise

Viscous pwaaz imo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poise_%28unit%29?wprov=sfla1

Ignore the neighsayers: grow a lemon tree (ledge), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

listened to that Gonkcast a bit and while it's an interesting listen I don't always agree with them.
I would agree that that middle period was where they lost me a bit and my interest waned.
I recall the style of music they were making along with other Warp/IDM type stuff was falling out of fashion in general - "Why listen to these bedroom nerds when you can go out and listen to dubstep" was the mindset. Also, while Confield was a big release but it divided a lot of people, so the commercial response for Draft/Untilted was muted.

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link

I agree that that middle period is one where they lost a lot of fans, but for many others (including me) they changed from being one of many Warp artists that they listen to the Warp artist that managed to take things to another level. I don't know, maybe that was just a vocal minority at the time.

silverfish, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

How does the podcast handle pronouncing the song titles?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

Yeah I feel with earlier fans of Autechre who were all in before Confield, that era was one of lower popularity, but they attracted a bunch of new fans who really appreciated their more experimental leanings to balance things out. Now I think nostalgia and increased experimentalism on numerous tracks that would come later have allowed people to return to this with more rosy fondness.

Seriously, Warp - when the heck are you guys repressing Chiastic -> Untilted already???!

octobeard, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

Fun podcast, btw. Enjoying the nerdery.

octobeard, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link

silverfish OTM, I got on board around Tri Rep and when Confield hit it was just mindblowing, they went from one-among-many to one of the major pole stars of my musical universe. There are periods when I can only listen to Autechre despite a massive musical library.

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

the confield era was also around when idm/glitch/etc. started getting kinda unfashionable in general too. that was my impression, anyway. the disappointment with the golden boy of the scene when druqks came out (from others, I like the record myself) is the most prominent example I can think of.

had to hang in there for a little for idm to get old enough to be cool again, I guess.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

I think I actually first heard of Autechre when Confield made Pitchfork's Top 20 Albums list in 2001.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 18 March 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link

I didn't start listening to them until like 2010 but I always knew them as a group where everyone complains about the new album then 2 years later said it's a classic and that it's the new one in fact that's just randomly generated garbage

it's not like that any more, seems like all the casuals have been shaken from the fanbase. hmmm wonder why that is

frogbs, Thursday, 18 March 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link

Confield had a remarkable amount of hype and press around it, possibly because it was the first one to come out in the established Pitchfork/blog/forum era. One of these albums where everyone had to have a take in it. I remember longterm fans calling it garbage while newer fans were often taken with it. I still don't know how to feel about that one

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 18 March 2021 09:12 (three years ago) link

AMG gives it 3 stars and says "this experimental, rigidly academic work is a record to respect, not enjoy" which is wrong & seems out of step now but is prob one of the more polite contemporary reactions (I assume it's contemporary)- that album seemed to make some ppl genuinely angry

my first, i found it bizarre but v addictive, it's still the one i come back to most. I struggled a lot more with the earlier stuff it kept getting unfavourably compared to- I was never really into techno or IDM. the whole glut of later stuff is way too much for a lifetime but what i've heard is amazing & boring & impenetrable on different days

nothing (Left), Thursday, 18 March 2021 09:34 (three years ago) link

Experimental and leftfield music was less accessible at the time I guess, so for a lot of people - even Warp/Autechre fans - this would have been one of the most challenging things they'd heard. The UK music press could be strangely closed-off to experimental music, calling it pretentious or making out that it was beyond enjoyability

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 18 March 2021 09:41 (three years ago) link

I remember The Wire reviewed it but not what they said, guardedly positive I think. https://reader.exacteditions.com/issues/35789/page/62?term=confield if anyone has a subscription...

Listening to Lego Feet now, damn this shit bangs.

Ignore the neighsayers: grow a lemon tree (ledge), Thursday, 18 March 2021 11:20 (three years ago) link

Some reviews of Chiastic Slide said the boys had gone too far this time, if you stuck with them through that but were thrown by Confield, I weep 4 u.

Ignore the neighsayers: grow a lemon tree (ledge), Thursday, 18 March 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link

Yeah Chiastic was a massive sea change, and they even stepped back ever so slightly on LP5. I might have been too young when it came out though, but I don't remember a lot of press about Ae at the time of Chiastic, whereas Confield got boosted a lot thanks to the internet

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Thursday, 18 March 2021 12:12 (three years ago) link

Chiastic didn't get a US release at the time, IIRC. Meanwhile LP5 was distributed through Trent Reznor's Nothing label, so there was a big wave of publicity.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 18 March 2021 12:20 (three years ago) link

I felt like I was holding a rare unicorn horn when a friend of mine lent me their CD copy of Chiastic Slide in 1998. I straight away made a copy of that thing

octobeard, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

?? I bought Chiastic around '98 in the US in a store. Guess it could have been an import.

lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

It was an import only then - $25-30 (in 1998 dollars) at places like Amoeba or Mod Lang in Berkeley at the time. No way you'd find it easily elsewhere in the bay area

octobeard, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

I was in Boston, and I'm pretty sure I got it at Newbury Comics.

lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

Maybe Tower

lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

I def got the expanded 2cd tri repeatae++ at tower but (checks discogs...) looks like wax trax put that out in the US. strange, I coulda swore I had to go into the imports room for it...

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

It took me a long time to take a closer look at Autechre because I thought of them as that pleasant chill out music my raver friends would throw on back in my college days

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

lol RYM lists "elseq 6-10" in the upcoming releases sidebar - looks like its just some fan-made release and people are getting pissed off in the shoutbox

frogbs, Sunday, 28 March 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

that said I'm soulseeking it and it's pretty nice. it basically just stitches together stuff from the 2014-2015 live sets but it really works

frogbs, Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link

I bought tri repetae++ and amber at salvation army :)

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

I'm still listening to the autechre podcast (gonkcast) I mentioned upthread. They're currently going through all the Gescom stuff, which is something I never really explored much (tried listening to minidisc a couple of times and randomly listened to a couple of tracks here and there). This got me listening to Gescom and the podcast helpfully pointed me toward the best stuff (Key nell and ISS:SA).

"Key nell" in particular is interesting because it comes midpoint between Tri Repetae and Chiastic Slide and kind of shows how Autechre gradually got to the Chiastic Slide sound, which without the Gescom EP seems like this huge sudden leap forward in their discography.

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

funny how when most musician threads get bumped it's a combination of "fuck are they ok" and/or "fuck what did they do" and with Autechre it's "fuck is there 13 more hours of music I gotta listen to now"

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

Sadly no.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

I'm still listening to gonkcast too, I have a low tolerance for 'two guys shooting the shit' podcasts but it's one of the less irritating ones. And Keynell is awesome.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Basscadet Mixes

Kicking off my listening adventure.

This is … nice, if basic. The right thing for the low-stakes last day before a long holiday weekend.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

I’m being too harsh! It’s fun, pop, ruminative. It’s just not quite Autechre to me, but of course these are remixes so

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link

The Seefeel mix is giving me Crystal Method flashbacks

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

I love how pop the structure of Basscadet is (as with a few songs, yes songs, on Incunabula), and the bass drop is really a blast. Not all the mixes are winners but it's an interesting capsule. There's a nice one with string sounds IIRC.

Are you working through their catalogue? I did that, or a large chnk of it a few momths ago over a couple of weeks prompted by a general AI nostalgia kick. Had the EPs collection on my phone for walking around for quite a while.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link

Noel, indeed. Going through using the Apple Music order, though I have to remember the EPs section. Maybe Wikipedia will make it easier to go in the right order

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

lol see you in a few years

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link

Lol

See you on Election Day 2024

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link

On to Incunabula

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link

If you need a bonus digestive there is an amazing live version of Kalpol Introl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTUnTGb15c

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

Which I guess is a bit of a spoiler for the Anti EP.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

is the eps box in spotify? because there are a couple of things before basscadet (vinyl only at the time, but they are in the box) (box also has another basscadet version)

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

I think it's only the Cavity Job 12" that's before Basscadet? Which isn't bad but more curate's egg than essential. I've owned most of the records but picked up the digital in one of bleep's boxing day sales for £10.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

yeah. and the basscadet on the eps skips the two 3rd party remixes and adds one

Basscadet (Bcdtmx) 6:49
Basscadet (Beaumonthannanttwomx) 8:14 <- gone
Basscadet (Seefeelmx) 6:51 <- gone
Basscadet (Tazmx) 6:54
Basscadet (Basscadubmx) 9:37

vs

Basscadet Bcdtmx 6:48
Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
Basscadet Tazmx 6:53
Basscadet Basscadubmx 9:37

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

Was delayed on listening due to work stuff but getting into it now.

Can definitely sense richness, mystery, etc. You could
put this on at a party in the late 90s (or today) and people would dig it but for the most part not ask “who is this by”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

Okay, maybe it’s a little idiosyncratic than that. Strangers who crashed your party might not ask who made the music but might invite you to their parties

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

FYI Incunabula is made up of tracks selected by Warp from a large set they sent in, so Amber is kind’ve their first album qua album.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

Although they have also said of Amber that they were trying a bit too much to make a "Warp" record.

Having put on Incunabula at parties in the 90s that's about right, although I want to say there was always something... xxp

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

Whenever I'm on hold and this comes on, I think of Incunabula

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT9qeveLyP8

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

Don't forget Lego Feet! 1991 era work by Ae, before they landed on the Autechre name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNGy5k53k8

octobeard, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

That Karpol Introl live was great. Any other similar early live stuff?

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link

is this your first go with the group Raymond? always interested to hear what those who come in completely blind think.

there's a web reviewer named George Starostin who used to have one of those sites where he'd just try to review every album ever made (I think he may be still at it, actually). anyway he's a pretty hardcore "Beatles are the greatest of all time/No worthwhile music was made after '83" kinda guy and for some reason he decided to start reviewing Autechre. he liked some of their early stuff - first 3 albums, mostly - but after Confield he was just completely lost. he still decided to commit to the bit and review everything up to at least NTS 1, pretty much writing the same "are we sure they know what they're doing" review every time out. I felt a little bad for him by the end honestly.

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

I’ve heard pretty much everything they’ve done (with the exception of the ocean of recent live records) at least three times.

The pre-1998 material I don’t know as well as the stuff beyond that point because I just don’t play it much - early AE is like a totally different enterprise to these ears! - so it’s almost like experiencing it for the first time, if that makes sense.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

A real trooper, George was, from the sound of things!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

To clarify further: LP5 is where I got onboard (as it came out). I went back and bought and/or heard what came before that but it’s never done much for me, tbh.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

there's a web reviewer named George Starostin who used to have one of those sites where he'd just try to review every album ever made (I think he may be still at it, actually). anyway he's a pretty hardcore "Beatles are the greatest of all time/No worthwhile music was made after '83" kinda guy and for some reason he decided to start reviewing Autechre. he liked some of their early stuff - first 3 albums, mostly - but after Confield he was just completely lost. he still decided to commit to the bit and review everything up to at least NTS 1, pretty much writing the same "are we sure they know what they're doing" review every time out. I felt a little bad for him by the end honestly.

I just looked at this guy's blog and while he really seems to hate a lot of their stuff (especially Exai/elseq/NTS) he did like Oversteps and Move of Ten. Seems like he would probably like SIGN/PLUS if he ever deciedes to review them.

silverfish, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
I had no idea about this. Searching now.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:01 (two years ago) link

Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
I had no idea about this. Searching now.

Ah, it was originally vinyl only. It's fine, not essential.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:06 (two years ago) link

i think the bascadet 10"s were the first autechre things i saw, in the virgin megastore on oxford street (first i bought was the envane cd, although i probably had the artificial intelligence cds first)

koogs, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link

The CD version of the EP box has the untitled hidden pregap track from EP7 at the start of Cichlisuite too, btw. (the download version doesn't have it, if discogs is correct)

StanM, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link

The CD version of the EP box has the untitled hidden pregap track from EP7 at the start of Cichlisuite too, btw. (the download version doesn't have it, if discogs is correct)

Oh that's good! An important one. It's super-weird that it's split across 2 CDs though :/

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link

The EPs box is a cool object, but it is some work to figure out which EP you're actually listening to, especially if you aren't really familiar with the track titles. The Gonkcast guys admit their lack of familiarity with the individual EPs as such when covering them (but then they lack direct experience with the physical releases in general). I've been working through most of the discography and Gonkcast in tandem, currently up through Oversteps. It takes a while for their "takes" to emerge, but it's thoughtful, convivial and nice to listen to while chopping up vegetables or whatever.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

Not sure if I ever listened to that pre-gap track althogh I have owned EP7 on CD as well as vinyl (promos - an especially good pressing.) The EPs collection is remastered so the levels match nicely and it's easy to let it play through. One other thing missing from it is the alt version of Laughing Quarter.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

Checked out my spotify wrapped thing for 2021 and according to it I am in the top 0.05% of autechre listeners for 2021. I guess with still listening to SIGN/PLUS a bunch and also going through the whole gonkcast podcast this was going to happen.

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Damn, this is a magical set.

https://autechre.bandcamp.com/track/ae-live-oslo-171116

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 26 June 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

was just reminded that in 1997 they produced a track for an artpop album by some Japanese singer named Mari Hamada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0BY0EqijM

which I think is the only time you get to hear what Ae would sound like with vocals. it's really nice. they aren't on the rest of the album obviously but it's really worth checking out

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

Never heard (of) that before, thanks.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

Sean was a bit down on that track in the recent chat - it was basically a demo that got taken for the final mix iirc - but I've always liked it.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

i was shocked to find out it is a cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMYiRsoUKBw

idk man (noz), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

I did not know that either. the whole Mari Hamada album is a mystery, would love to read a track by track breakdown on how it came to be. how did Autechre even get involved? I know they've done some remixes of stuff with vocals but nothing else like this

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

just scanning the credits of the album, some of the production team were members of soft ballet, who had recently done a remix album (soft ballet forms) with a number of warp artists

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link

including autechre, actually

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ztC74ODRI

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

another producer had been a member of nav katze who ALSO did a well known remix album feat a number of warp affiliates

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

mystery solved i’d say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWury9zukkM

the late great, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

that soft ballet remix is in my top 5 ae remixes.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

just scanning the credits of the album, some of the production team were members of soft ballet, who had recently done a remix album (soft ballet forms) with a number of warp artists

― the late great, Tuesday, June 28, 2022 12:52 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

okay yeah the dots are connecting a bit now, funny enough I had just recently listened to the Plaid remix they had done and wondered how the hell that came to be

always wondered if there were any Soft Ballet fans on here :)

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

Autechre really really really need a remix anthology

octobeard, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

There was a big unofficial comp of their remixes that was doing the rounds online a few years ago - ‘Laxir’ or similar..

Ah someone’s been so good as to bung it on SoundCloud

bingo dabber acid, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

…hmm maybe ignore that link, not the entire thing - but the Laxir comp covered up to about the last 5-10 years…

bingo dabber acid, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:31 (one year ago) link

those nav katze comps with all those big 90s names rule. love the global communication one.

did sean talk about it on that twitch chat? kinda curious how the producer got in with all of those heavy hitters.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

this record is a favorite as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKqUQ9srNGk

frustratingly, the other records seem to be, uh, like alt rock? which makes this all even weirder

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

also frustratingly, the laxir fan comp, while absolutely filled with gems, is not everything. it actually leaves out a decent chunk of stuff, despite being long as hell. i think some completionists have compiled even longer ones…

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

Have they done any in the last 15 or so years?

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

yeah, tho they’ve slowed it down.

stuff like russell haswell one sounds like modern autechre.

the sophie one isn’t as far out as you might think (want?), kinda like the earth remix.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

the earth remix is masterful and amazing

they took a near-perfect song, probably decided not to fuck with it too much because it's already near perfect, then tweaked the production just enough that i can't really listen to the original now if i have a choice because theirs sounds so much better. and i don't really know if i could put into words what they did to it, besides edit a bit to add a refrain, tweak the eq, and add a weird drum sample (brushed cymbal or hi hat played backward?)

the late great, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link

actually i'm not even sure if they reversed the drum sample

the late great, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

oh yeah, it’s great! but the first time i put it on, i was def like “wait, huh? this is an autechre remix??”

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

my fave is the Neu! remix on the splitrmx promo - speed isn't marked so I prefer it at 45, but 33 is good too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xr1OT6u7oI

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

(that title should be "Autechre play Weissensee against Im Glück" btw)

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:55 (one year ago) link

oh and frogbs they did release a remic of SOPHIE's "bipp" last year

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 00:56 (one year ago) link

Would love to make a list of "surely this is mislabeled, can't be" Autechre remixes

Earth is on there
so is Anodyne

anything else?

death generator (lukas), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

https://autechre.mixlr.com/recordings/1977679

djh, Friday, 30 December 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

xp probably the Tortoise remixes too

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 30 December 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

xp was that streamed live today? how did you hear about it?

ledge, Friday, 30 December 2022 22:16 (one year ago) link

^^ mixlr link is "a dj set of some old stuff for a bit of streaming" said sean_ae on Mastodon

StanM, Friday, 30 December 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

Well, that’s tonight’s listening sorted.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 30 December 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

5pm GMT tomorrow, https://t.co/UW6sG0bGqg pic.twitter.com/F9YgsDq7lU

— NTS Radio (@NTSlive) February 4, 2023



Hello

what have I done to deserve you (lukas), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

I remember the shock of the first one … “I think this might be an unreleased track!” “wait this is another unreleased track!” ”oh my god”

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link

Lol yeah and “surely the next 3 will be DJ sets”

frogbs, Saturday, 4 February 2023 22:58 (one year ago) link

I looked at the NTS schedule and it's programmed as "17:00 - 22:36 AUTECHRE - ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE - 1992 CONTEXTUAL MIX"

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 4 February 2023 23:12 (one year ago) link

those pals need to add more vocals on their composition to reach a new sonic dimension

CerebralCaustic, Monday, 6 February 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link

I don't necessarily disagree. In my headcanon "Bryan Ferry Sings LP5" is an actual thing. It's never going to happen outside of remixes though. I 100% feel that Plaid ought to go back to doing more vocal collabs

autechre must follow the mouse on mars path: getting an mc like mark e smith

CerebralCaustic, Monday, 6 February 2023 05:13 (one year ago) link

The NTS set is the same set as the Mixlr one from December, for anyone interested.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 6 February 2023 07:39 (one year ago) link

the description did seem familiar

koogs, Monday, 6 February 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link

aw

what have I done to deserve you (lukas), Monday, 6 February 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link


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