It is stunning and is going to get the full CoM treatment.
It's what I always imagined grime/dubstep should sound like - empty, vast and deeply emotional.
I doubt any record will sum up the grey steel of 2006 London more fully than this one. It seems to be a compilation of tracks recorded between 2001 and now. But on early listening this is astonishing; the blackened mirror image of SAW II, Horsepower Productions in negative, Post-Millennium Tension.
Any thoughts?
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 07:59 (seventeen years ago) link
pretty good album, sounds like it should soundtrack Blade Runner or something
it has a similar vibe to classic Tricky albums too
― splates (splates), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:48 (seventeen years ago) link
As I said before the only thing I don't like is the track with the rap on - the only thing I've really liked that Spaceape has done was the cover (of sorts) of Sign 'O' The Times he did on an earlier Hyperdub EP.
If I was running any kind of electronic label right now I would be commissioning remixes from this guy. In fact... why not Relevee (Burial Mix)? :)
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
The production is awesome yeah. Although again there's a distinction b/w the tracks with great, fluid rhythms and those with more run-o'-the-millish dubstep and halfstep beats. And the Spaceape track is definitely the weakest.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Tried this Sunday night, awoke deeply disturbed, switched to the radio and it was "Gotta See Jane" by R Dean Taylor. "Windscreen wipers splishing, splashing..." It seemed strangely apt.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link
ANYWAY: Have you heard the "Original Garage" mix of "U Hurt Me"? Its only on one mix (available here...http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_blackdownsoundboy_archive.html#114529091176863831) dunno if it'll be released later, but its basically a Balearic-pop version...
IMHO: Spaceape track works well (it IS distinct to the rest as it has a live vocalist rather than distressed samples)but it has a tightly wound minimalist funk in its slightly out-of-time beats (especially when the hi hats come in) which is really compelling...
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link
It was nice, and unexpected, to read your thoughts on The Kiki mix Marcello.
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Glad you liked the Boogybites piece...I also have things to say about the Luciano mix (Sci Fi Hi Fi Vol 2) when time allows.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
i needed to get one listen through my system to forget all the garbage written for it (hauntology = another excuse for nonsensical flowery prose). after that, this is brilliant. the space ape track is noticeably weaker than everything else he has released.
― natedey (ndeyoung), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link
It's the whole "elegy for Omni Trio" bizniz that I don't get - if anything this is (at its best) a cross b/w early dubstep and the more musical/emotional techstep a la the first Dom & Roland album.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link
pot, kettle
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― grapple (grapple), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Hooray! ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:16 (seventeen years ago) link
I think Paul Autonomic's (great) mix might be all the Dubstep I really need this month to listen to at home. Also, I just don't think I'm in the mood for any more gloom & despair at this precise moment.
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link
I think this is the cruellest comment I've seen Ned make yet.
― like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― hector (hector), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 02:52 (seventeen years ago) link
It was ok, but not much melody or anything else gripping for me, I couldn't make it through the whole thing.
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link
First thing that has to be stated is that this isn't a straight up dubstep album. It can't be, there's far too many clever rhythmic and
melodic twists and turns to keep it held down by something as trivial as genre or style. He takes dubstep's distinctive motif's (warping b-lines, downward drums, silent gaps) and furnishes incredibly layered pieces of futurist funk.
The eastern sunrise opener of 'Tauhid' might be weighted down with swathes of sub. But, like the rest of the album, there's a light footprint to it all. Even the murky, out-of-focus echo of 'Skuff'd' seems to have a spring in its step. Whilst bass-heads will find solace in darker moments like the magnificent 'Brood'. The rest of us will find this a seasonally apt piece of accomplished electronic music.
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link
I agree that the album ain't straight-up dubstep (although it basically is in parts - the weakest parts ha) but the second half of this statement is ridiculoid.
The beats at their best are better than most current dubstep but not all (and generally not as good as first-wave Horspower/El-B etc. for the sake of an easy comparison) - the focus here is really the texturological side of tings, the heaviness of the synths and samples which gives the music a physicality not in the sense of groove, but in the sense of it feeling physically tangible, like you're gonna get damp if you listen to the tracks with rain sounds.
Still think it's an amazing EP masquerading as a decent album.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link
that comment pretty much makes me want to avoid this album even though i am intrigued. i am very resistant to this premature canonization stuff. was "timeless" critically reviled on it's release? i recall reading a few recent posts here that tear it apart pretty well, but "ought to have been"?
― breakfast pants (disco stu), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Once Blogger is back up and running, I will deliver a more persuasive argument for you purchasing the Burial album.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link
i don't understand why he would even mention tricky.i don't understand why he would even mention Goldie.
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― rtccc (mwah), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 1 June 2006 07:53 (seventeen years ago) link
In any event I have divided the passage up into digestible lines, and the Burial piece is now up for lovers of "nonsensical flowery prose."
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 1 June 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link
Good job on the Burial, Marcello. And I might buy that Ishiguro on the way home from work.
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 1 June 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link
three paragraphs of deeply gross classist handwringing about the "working class" - do you really only see "wretchedness" every time you see someone in the lowest tax bracket? and i like this one: "they are given the illusion of education and enlightenment" - aren't you also culpable? why are you so willing to see the education of "people who work in call-centre servitude" as illusion?
followed by five paragraphs of blogging about blogging.
followed by several paragraphs of vaguely musicological nonsense:
"record looks and feels like something unofficial, unauthorised; an urgent samizdat, a desperate plea from an ending world, an artefact whose emotions are so necessary to communicate that packaging would constitute both delay and distraction."
dude, it looks like any techstep album from the early 2000s!!
"The beats are too shadowed and distant for dancing; this music is to be felt in other parts of the soul as well as listened to"
yuck, stale IDM rhetoric pt 9,000,000
"
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
anyway you should be apologizing to ME, i've worked in a call center and i don't think you should be calling me "wretched".
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm wondering if the relative unoriginality of the cover makes it any less powerful if you're coming to it with a fresh mind? In isolation I think it's a great cover.
I think Marcello was just trying to avoid the pat, idiotic "this is more of a listening album y'know" staple than reinforce IDM cliches. Though they are annoying, I'll take the anything over the former, and I think the latter is almost dead for anyone but sheltered "alternative music" fans by 2006.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link
who doesn't use stale IDM rhetoric these days, vahid?
i second the faux-dubstep album - but isn't that what Various Productions is trying to do?
― natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 1 June 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link
marcello you made the ishiguro sound worth checking out. it sounds like a zenned out cross between houellebecq and murakami.
― breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 1 June 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Techstep did this too (this is part of the similarity) but the speed and the shameless use of breakdowns and climaxes gave it a sense of a broken machine spiralling out of control. With dubstep - slower and seemingly suspicious of the notion of song dynamic - that never happens.
The Dom & Roland Industry comparison makes a lot of sense for me, above and beyond the fact that Industry is definitely my favourite techstep album. I think Burial beats out Dom & Roland on the texture front, the warp and weave of the samples etc. But D&R beats out Burial on the beats/grooves front because, even when it's basically a straightforward 2-step groove (maybe 4 tracks or so), there's a real energy and intensity to the groove, a friction between the physicality of the beats and the lush mournfulness of the textures and melodies - when this is combined with an excitingly syncopated rhythm (on tracks like "Thunder", "Chained On Both Sides" and especially the peerless "Elektra") it's unstoppable.
It's clear that Burial can construct excitingly syncopated rhythms and on the best tracks that's what he does, but frequently he still sounds caught within dubstep's horizon of wounded undynamic grooves, like a post-Timbaland version of the leaden, lumpen boom-bap which drags down so much comparable downtempo.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link
OTM. i just cannot get as excited about this as other things going on.
― trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Finney's comments are akin to criticising Saint Etienne for not being Menswear.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link
NB 1. I don't have an issue with rhythms sounding like broken machines. It's just that ideally a broken machine should sound, well, dangerous, rather than merely, well mildly impaired.
NB 2. I'm not saying that the entire album suffers from this, only about half.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:11 (seventeen years ago) link
can someone finish this? industry is to blade runner as burial is to ... ? artificial intelligence??
― breakfast pants (disco stu), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― jewess harvell (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― gaseous (gaseous), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― tate (Tate), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 2 June 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link
I suspect I am not being particularly clear here:
I think (and it appears that I agree with you on this perhaps) the beats on Burial's album are best when they're not trying to be obviously dangerous, when they're at their loosest and prettiest, e.g. the first proper track and the track with the sampled reggae vocals towards the end (sorry I'm not totally on top of tracknames much yet). These tracks are still pretty dark sounding, but part of that is due to the thickness of the arrangements and the slightly foreboding use of spatialisation - the way the sounds emerge and recede so boldly. It's also partly due to what Simon R called the "murderous panache" (or something to that effect) of proper 2-step a la Artful Dodger - beats don't have to be obviously doom and gloom to feel threatening.
The weakest beats are the ones which cleave closest to the current dubstep norm of a sort of self-contained hard-brokenness. These ones seem to fall between two stools: they have that wounded, muscly quality of techstep, but none of the sense of release you get with the best techstep. It's most obvious on the Spaceape track but even with some of the better tracks like "Southern Comfort" I'm left thinking "the beat is the weakest part of this track."
Actually the Dom & Roland album shares this affliction to the extent that all techstep did - there's a track on it co-produced with Optical which is very hard and very carefully arranged, but so constipated in feel that it never generates any interesting tension. I guess if there's one word I'd use to describe bad dubstep beats it'd be constipated.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 2 June 2006 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Friday, 2 June 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 2 June 2006 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 3 June 2006 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 3 June 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link
(or, trying to listen to this stuff on an iPod is frustratingly incomplete)
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 3 June 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 3 June 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 3 June 2006 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Tim, you said that you found the beat in "Southern Comfort" to be the weakest part of the track. Do you also consider it "constipated," i.e., do you include it among the dubstep tunes that don't "generate any tension"?
― tate (Tate), Saturday, 3 June 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link
(albeit shitty real audio may not be worth the effort)
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 3 June 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link
I guess I wouldn't go quite so far w/r/t "Southern Comfort", although there's something about the way it loops into itself which bugs me - the variation on every 8th bar is better than the usual beat. "You Hurt Me" has a v. similar beat structure but I like the beat more (also it has those awesome, albeit too sparing "DROP!" samples).
I love the rhythm programming on "Gutted" though - even though it's barely there!
In retrospect it's only "Spaceape" that is actively bad in this sense. Though i could take or leave "Prayer", and while "Wounder" works it's not for the beats.
If it was an EP along the lines of:
Distant LightsNight BusYou Hurt MeGuttedBroken HomeForgive
... It would be unimpeachable.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:59 (seventeen years ago) link
because his presence on vol 3 IS "actively bad", in fact it's terrible, and i can't believe people aren't calling kode 9 out on it!
not only is it sort of embarassing - would any of these dudes rep for "dj kicks: rockers hi-fi"? - but in this case it's just ... yuck.
"Victims themselves of a close encounter / Desperate abductors, constructors / Become an infected vex / By an alien virus"?
dude ... shut the fuck up.
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― gaseous (gaseous), Sunday, 4 June 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 4 June 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyone that has heard Spaceape live recently in the UK will know that the line of argument on this thread, from carlin to finney is somewhat off the mark regarding that track. And I really wish people would stop constantly referring dubstep back to techstep. There is some substance to that contrast, but its actually such a lazy critical move to make the kind of comparisons, especially with the Burial album, which doesnt seem aimed at the dancefloor in the slightest.
― Brian Best (ukb), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 5 June 2006 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link
A lot of early album "techstep" wasn't either! It's not like we're talking about Bad Company!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link
I also think it is ridiculous to suggest that its rhythmically better or worse than early dubstep. If anything it will help attract attention back to those guys, but its clearly taken that influence in another direction altogether. El-B & Horsepower's production was always clinically clean.
― Brian Best (ukb), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Sunday, 18 June 2006 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 18 June 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 18 June 2006 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 19 June 2006 06:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 19 June 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Beauman (NedBeauman), Monday, 19 June 2006 20:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 19 June 2006 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 19 June 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link
http://search.insound.com/search/showrelease.jsp?p=INS29940
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Vampire Business (Bimble...), Sunday, 25 June 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link
I passed this up in Hard Wax (they're loving the Dubstep btw!) for an old Carl Craig album & other stuff. If that Breezeblock mix is better... then maybe I'm not as excited about this as say a Skream or Digital Mystikz album after all.
― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 25 June 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
1. Nu-Birth - Anytime (Dem 2's Nice & Sleazy Mix)2. Horsepower Productions - Fist of Fury3. Skream - Midnite Request Line4. Wiley - Pick Yourself Up (Target Instrumental Mix)5. Aaliyah - We Need A Resolution6. Tricky ft. PJ Harvey - Broken Homes7. Donnacha Costello - Dry Retch8. Pole - Tanzen9. Rhythm & Sound - Truly (Vladislav Delay Remix)10. Dillinja - The Angels Fell11. Hidden Agenda - Dispatch #212. DJ Shadow - You Can't Go Home Again13. Johnny Dark - HCD 2
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 21:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Vampire Business (Bimble...), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 08:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 20 July 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
excellent rec, gets stronger as it goes along, def. hanging round some of the same old haunts as maurizio/rhythm + sound, which can never ever be a bad thing
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 20 July 2006 09:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 20 July 2006 10:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― willem -- (willem), Thursday, 20 July 2006 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Tim F is v.much OTM calling it a padded ep because there are (frustratingly) brilliant _bits_ on it. But the whole seems to fail somehow where it shouldn't have.
And it really would have helped to have had ALL of South London Boroughs on it because the title track would have been far & away the best cut on it (then Southern Comfort, then others) on a sound design level. The less Dubstep-y this gets the weaker, less atmospheric and menacing and emotional it feels. Yet the gauzy more ambient stuff seems to be getting the unfair share of the praise.
I'd have a hard time rating it below a 7, yet vast chunks of this lag far, far behind the truly effective parts in real musical power. Whilst never ever being hard to digest or bland or anything at any time it still ends up not feeling _really great_ either.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Doesn't compare even remotely in imagination to darker Tricky, Massive Attack or FSOL (circa "Dead Cities") or acres of other dread Jungle... If Hyperdub didn't exist and seem fresh & untested for it I'd expect this to have been released on Lux Nigra.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― willem -- (willem), Thursday, 20 July 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Fair enough to the 'burial' concept but it feels for the most part TOO hermetic and sealed around it's own foggy dreamscape to sound truly dangerous or threatening or unsettling. It needs more breaking glass and interruptions to "normality" in it I think.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― ledge (ledge), Thursday, 20 July 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link
(i dont like this much at all btw. tim's pitchfork review had me thinking it was the second coming of horsepower.)
― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 July 2006 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 July 2006 12:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Wow, I couldn't disagree more with these claims. Listen to Skream or DMZ if you want more fractured dubstep, that really isn't the point.
btw just to pre-empt dubstep (feeeel the bass man) purist
This there anyone seriously going to claim this? This is not a 'feel the bass' record, it's a shade away from a dubstep soundsystem track. It sounds perfectly fine on my home stereo.
― Michael Dieter (Mika), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Dieter (Mika), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link
But yes: Burial is in no way a bass-head record, whilst the sub-bass is present it is mixed well back, as there is quite a lot else going on. Check out Pinch for some real "holy shit that's a lot of sub down there" action...
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link
I wasn't really thinking about it in that way but maybe I'd now say it is the second coming of horsepower and that's part of what undermines it slightly. I still love many tracks on In Fine Style but it's hard to listen to in full. HP were better rhythmic programmers than Burial I think (nothing here is as startling rhythmically as, say, "Pimp Flavours") but overall Burial has a broader sonic palette.
This is definitely the first time I've received e-mails about a review with half complaining that I was too enthusiastic and the other half that I was too negative.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link
All dubstep sounds fractured to me to a certain extent. Always tripping over itself and creating angular grooves. Skream falls into this paradigm for me - while he might sound non-jittery and so on, I think even 'Monsoon' or 'Request Line' would sound less so mixed into a different genre...
I agree, 'Boys Love Girls' is a 'fractured' sounding track. But it's such an exceptional record!
In any case, Burial is much more melodic and non-jittery than anything in dubstep or grime. The Germanic Basic Channel/Pole axis on the sound is an innovative approach I think. The point is to find a new synthesis, which requires reducing certain aspects associated with the London underground.
― Michael Dieter (Mika), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link
this shit sounds like enigma w/o the hot beats and tight samples. at least enigma is catchy and gets heads nodding. i forgot what this sounded like two seconds after i took it off. all i could remember was the afterimage of a train whistle, ghostly fragments of bad ethnic samples and the overwhelming aftertaste of rainswept windshields and sodium lights. fuck that, this is what you get when you combine corny dead poets gothisms + the sound of a deep forest album at 33 rpm.
― JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Hmm... these are exactly the reasons why I love the record.
― Michael Dieter (Mika), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link
and STFU about basic channel, people. teh fact that a dubstep album spends time aiming for something that shits on it from a great height doesn't make it worth listening to.
burial is worthwhile because he namechecks basic channel? what's next, i listen to matisyahu because he's got good taste in reggae?
― JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Thursday, 20 July 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link
You can't be serious.
― Michael Dieter (Mika), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link
Perhaps Pole is a more significant reference point from Burial.
― Michael Dieter (Mika), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link
there, i said it. i feel better now. i'll get me hat.
― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Friday, 21 July 2006 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link
So does anyone know if there's going to be any sound systems playing Dubstep at notting hill carnival this year?
― jk_ (jk@gabba), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link
SkreamAppleblim & ShackletonDigital Mystikz & Sgt PokesKode 9Various Production
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― jimnaseum - music to make you staga (jimnaseum), Friday, 21 July 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah that break is fine, but that's about it. I don't dis-like the rest of it, it's just kind of there.
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 22 July 2006 00:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Aye.
― jimnaseum - music to make you staga (jimnaseum), Saturday, 22 July 2006 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link
but compare burial's album to something like phoenicia's "brownout" and you'll see that burial is very, very subpar.
― JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Saturday, 22 July 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Tim Finney, July 21st, 2006.
eh, crackle!
― Brian Best (ukb), Saturday, 22 July 2006 09:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 22 July 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Fandango, regardless of your opinion on Burial, I really think you should hear SAW II. I'm tempted to say everyone should hear SAW II, but I do realize that's probably stretching it.
― Grabbing Thistle (Bimble...), Sunday, 23 July 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 23 July 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link
I would put all the vocal tracks ahead of it.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 23 July 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Oris Jay's "Brand Nu Flava" had a similar sick-with-love vibe. (sigh) so many of those producers went crap!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 24 July 2006 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Grabbing Thistle (Bimble...), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― ennui (fandango), Thursday, 26 October 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Also: check this out: Burial's remix of Jamie Woon's Wayfaring Stranger (fourth track here: http://www.myspace.com/jamiewoon ) - out at the end of this month on Live Recordings (has been played by Mary Anne Hobbs on Radio 1 a couple of times already, it seems).
― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 7 January 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Hype hype hype and then it turns out to be fantastic!
I had no idea. I could play Broken Home on repeat for hours... I really should have been paying more attention to this whole dubstep thing, but then there's only so much hours in the day and essays have to be handed in and I only get so much time off work and...
― from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Still despite the fact that Death In June have nothing at all to do with the Burial this thread is dedicated to, I still stand by the album and look forward to the rumoured next Burial album due this year.
― Booper Soul (Bimble...), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link
this track is up on Hype Machine now. it's been on repeat for hours. get it asap.
― cizzzy (brother loves dub), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Burial sounds like an instrumental version of Tricky's 3rd album.
― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link
-- jed_
although I have, jed is closet to my feelings about 'Burial' overall.
― about:coffee (fandango), Monday, 5 February 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM, Monday, 2 April 2007 08:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― SusanD, Monday, 2 April 2007 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Could someone please point me to that obscured or whatever photo of Burial?
― W4LTER, Sunday, 16 December 2007 07:12 (sixteen years ago) link
There are some in this month's issue of the Wire.
― jim, Sunday, 16 December 2007 12:31 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/347/
― willem, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link
There's another picture in the magazine, he's all shadowy and you can make out that he's wearing a beanie and has long curly hair (somewhat unsurprisingly).
― jim, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link
"I've only listened to it twice in full, but I think the album as a whole doesn't quite live up to its best tracks - i wish the whole thing had abandoned virtual-reality-divas moaning in anguish all over it, but it's only a couple of times and very fleeting!
-- Tim Finney (Tim Finney)"
so i'm guessing you loved the new one? i cant remember if you were posting in that thread or not.
― pipecock, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
New Burial album. More info?
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
so yes, is he the same as "Tim F"? that's what i was confused about. and since "Tim F" seemed to not like the new one, yet it is almost exactly what "Tim Finney" said he wanted the first Burial album to be, it isnt immediately obvious. one thing i dont like about ILM is that there is no real user profile, people can change their names and whatnot too easily. very annoying.
― pipecock, Sunday, 16 December 2007 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks!
― W4LTER, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link
one thing i dont like about ILM is that there is no real user profile, people can change their names and whatnot too easily. very annoying.
You can't change your name.
― jim, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Go ahead and try.
Without starting a new account.
Yeah, but you used to be able to and people did all the time (although Tim's names are pretty easy to decode.) I do find it hard to keep track of who someone is now in nu-ILX world.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link
I was trying to be all superpedantic like pipecock with his "Tim Finney used to say he would like something like the new Burial album but he doesn't like the new Burial album! OMG!!!11!1!" but I suppose it didn't translate.
― jim, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Notice myself saying that this was utter shit upthread and I ended up buying it and thinking it was one of the best albums of last year. Things change.
― jim, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link
(xpost)Haha well I won't dispute that pipecock is a moron whatever his user name is.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
The Burial remix of Thom Yorke's "And It Rained All Night" is lazier than most Burial things I've heard. I'll probably end up praising it in a few days, knowing how I warm to things, but it really seems more like existing beats grafted under a vocal. Not nearly as good as the Bloc Party mix.
― mh, Monday, 17 December 2007 01:27 (sixteen years ago) link
no it's definitely rubbish. every burial staple sound thrown underneath yorke's vocal. horrible.
― resolved, Monday, 17 December 2007 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link
and what an awkward beat, even for him
― resolved, Monday, 17 December 2007 01:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the new Burial album quite a lot. If you have a look at the other Burial thread I actually don't really talk about the album quality so much as the dodgy rhetoric people feel compelled to use when discussing him.
Burial seems to be one of those artists for whom one is not allowed to express even a vaguely equivocal position. I gave the first Burial album an 8.1 or something like that for Pitchfork and got more hatemail than for any other review complaining that I was too stupid to recognise a good record when I heard it.
Having said all this Pipecock is correct that in theory I should absolutely adore the second album given he effectively (if unwittingly) followed the advice I gave in my review. Instead I only like it quite a lot, about as much as the first album. I've wondered about this myself.
I suspect that the familiarity with his approach has meant that it's been less precious to me than it would have been had it been released as his first album. My gut reaction is that nothing on Untrue is as good as "You Hurt Me", which provides its blueprint, but it might be more correct to say that after "You Hurt Me" it's harder to be surprised. If anything I've not even given the album the chance to grow on me properly - I've just not been compelled to pull it out that much.
― Tim F, Monday, 17 December 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link
I think both albums have the same flaw actually which is that they have four or so amazing tracks and a bunch of pretty forgettable ones.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I disagree with Tim though. I think the best tracks on Untrue ("Etched Headplate", "Archangel", "Raver") are better than anything on the first record.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I think Untrue is a major step up, in almost every way, for Burial. Still, my favorite of his songs is Unite, from the Soul Jazz comp Box of Dub, Vol. I.
U Hurt Me is v. good, tho.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 December 2007 02:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Tim's point about the rhetoric around Burial ties in with my belief that Burial is the kind of goth it's 'okay' to like. "It's dark and spooky and I don't have to admit to liking somebody in bondage gear and ambisexual makeup!"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2007 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link
controversial!
― tricky, Monday, 17 December 2007 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link
"Tim's point about the rhetoric around Burial ties in with my belief that Burial is the kind of goth it's 'okay' to like. "It's dark and spooky and I don't have to admit to liking somebody in bondage gear and ambisexual makeup!""
Uh what?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 03:33 (sixteen years ago) link
it's funny to hear some of my friends talk about this record, like one dj dude for whom it's a totally out-of-nowhere sound. like he has no reference points for it at all.
― Jordan, Monday, 17 December 2007 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link
archangel is the archetypal burial song. everything else is just a clone or a prototype for it...
...i love the way it doesn't sound like anything else out there but his own works so when you campare the rest of the album or other tunes of his to it, they're found wanting
― pollywog, Monday, 17 December 2007 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link
As I said, i think that it's likely that my sense that nothing on the new album is better than "You Hurt Me" is actually reflective of something else, like a drop in interest in Burial generally, rather than the actual quality per se.
Ned I know what you mean but it's no more true for Burial than it was for DJ Shadow - and I think there's a great deal that the two have in common.
― Tim F, Monday, 17 December 2007 06:16 (sixteen years ago) link
"I like the new Burial album quite a lot. If you have a look at the other Burial thread I actually don't really talk about the album quality so much as the dodgy rhetoric people feel compelled to use when discussing him."
which is another reason why i was kinda confused, because even though we discussed many things about it, i dont remember you specifically saying whether you liked it or not!
"Having said all this Pipecock is correct that in theory I should absolutely adore the second album given he effectively (if unwittingly) followed the advice I gave in my review. Instead I only like it quite a lot, about as much as the first album. I've wondered about this myself."
when i read that older post, i couldnt even believe it. you totally nailed his direction over a year before the album came out. i had to do a double take on the date to make sure i wasn't imagining things!
"I suspect that the familiarity with his approach has meant that it's been less precious to me than it would have been had it been released as his first album. My gut reaction is that nothing on Untrue is as good as "You Hurt Me", which provides its blueprint, but it might be more correct to say that after "You Hurt Me" it's harder to be surprised. If anything I've not even given the album the chance to grow on me properly - I've just not been compelled to pull it out that much.
-- Tim F"
for me nothing was ever really "surprising" about his music, but that is also not one of the things i look for in any music. but for me "untrue" album definitely seems like an expansion and a contraction at the same time: he expanded on the ideas in the first album, though mainly in the ideas present in just a few of the tracks. i think it works better because of this (i am one of the people who thinks the space ape jam was the weakest on the first one, simply because it was too "different" and kind of lost the flow of the album) and the tracks that he came up with for the new one are definitely superior to the first album. if anything, i am now more doubtful of the first album simply because of how much more i like the new one!
― pipecock, Monday, 17 December 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link
and I think there's a great deal that the two have in common
I know Mackro was thinking more DJ Spooky but I'll buy both as comparison points, and I think we're seeing rhetorical redux bigtime in the vein of the critical response around both ten years back in Burial's case.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2007 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link
So now DJ Spooky was the goth it was s'okay to like?!?! Huh.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link
The more you act surprised the funnier it gets, trust me.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 December 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
If funny = makes no sense, I guess. The Shadow comp seems spot on though.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Although I guess there is/was racial baggage with Shadow than there is/was with Burial.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link
ahem, "more".
― Alex in SF, Monday, 17 December 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link
"Although I guess there is/was racial baggage with Shadow than there is/was with Burial.
-- Alex in SF"
i think comparing burial to shadow is pretty close in terms of mood and atmosphere, at least as close any i can think of. not sure why there should be racial baggage with shadow though, he did shit with Paris and his crew included Blackalicious amongst many others, he was no isolated white guy. do you mean in getting crazy hype just because he was a white guy? even still, im not sure that was the exact reason, how many people really knew he was a white guy just from hearing his music? i wouldn't have guessed it and he wasnt even pictured on Endtroducing.....
― pipecock, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 03:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Just breath, pipecock. There is always racial baggage when white american guy's make hip-hop and I doubt you can find too many pieces from 95-6 on Shadow that didn't mention his race or the fact that his music was out of place in the present world of hip hop.
Anyway I wasn't thinking so much sonically in terms of the Shadow-Burial connection (although there are some similarities, yeah) more just two guys obsessed with a particular strand of a genre that was largely out of vogue at the point where they were making music (Steinski-style cut-n-mix instrumentals for Shadow, El-B-style 2-step) and who achieved as much if not more success from fans who normally wouldn't care about the music scene they were ostensibly and rather distantly a part of (in Burial's case, seemingly by choice, in Shadow's . . . well.)
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:31 (sixteen years ago) link
The big difference being that half if not more of the 2-step producers were white anyway.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 06:56 (sixteen years ago) link
is the thom yorke remix any good? (available from boomkat, nicely)
― djh, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link
So is Burial definitely white?
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Everything I've read indicates it's really lazy.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes. Definitely. Positively.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I have a photo of Burial and his girlfriend - I've even come up with the perfect lolcat caption with which to leak it to the internet. Unfortunately he doesn't have long curly hair so I think I've been played.
― tpp, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link
the thom yorke remix is easily burial's worst remix/track yet. the excellent modeselektor and various remixes more than make up for the weak burial effort.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link
to be honest i havent felt his remixes at all and im a huge fan of his original productions.
― pipecock, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link
are the soul jazz compilations (featuring burial) any good?
― djh, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link
They're okay. The Burial track on the first one is quite good and there are a few other good tracks on each one. A lot of it tends more towards digi-dub than dubstep (which can be good depending on your POV), but either way is sadly rather boring.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link
suugestions wanted: if you like burial you might also like ...
― djh, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
...walking through London late at night in the rain?
― chap, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Adele
― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
see, i was expecting the first reply to be "enya".
― djh, Thursday, 24 January 2008 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm still wrapping my brain around "Untrue" - and I mean that in the best way possible. It's like someone murdered a 2-step mix disc: here is its ghost back to haunt you with its unsettling familiarity.
I love listening to individual tracks, but I find the whole thing way too melancholy to process in one sitting.
― Tantrum The Cat, Thursday, 24 January 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I feel the same way. If I try to listen to it through, by like track five I'm thinking "Oh christ, more dirty bass noises and minimal shuffling beats. Oh, and here come the spectral vocals". Then when a track from the second half of the album comes up on shuffle and I really enjoy it. I'm still not feeling the beat-less tunes though, don't know under what circumstances I'd be in the mood to listen to one.
― chap, Thursday, 24 January 2008 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link
"suugestions wanted: if you like burial you might also like ..."
You could start with his obv influences: Omni Trio, Foul Play, Todd Edwards, El-B/Ghost, etc. . .
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link
"sugestions wanted: if you like burial you might also like ..."
...cyrus and moving ninja
― If you only knew, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link
rhythm and sound
― pipecock, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link
If you like any music produced anywhere I recommend Rhythm & Sound.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link
true. they are some of the greatest musicians of this generation.
― pipecock, Friday, 25 January 2008 07:26 (sixteen years ago) link
muslimgauze mixes well with burial as does akira rabelais
― If you only knew, Saturday, 26 January 2008 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link
This is one of the strangest records I have heard in quite awhile. I am unsure at who this is aimed at. The dancefloor?
The nearest I can come up with is that it works quite nicely as a soundtrack to the late night stoner set.
― kwhitehead, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, it's late night bedroom music. Definately a cerebral album. Also if you listen to it on headphones walking the streets after dark you feel like you're in a film.
― chap, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Also if you listen to it on headphones walking the streets after dark you feel like you're in a film.
in fact, this is the only way I ever listen to this...
― henry s, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I am unsure at who this is aimed at.
Well, it's certainly not aimed at trip-hop fans because it's, um, not trip-hop.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
There are still trip-hop fans?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, but for me, it works best when you're walking the streets after dark and -- this is the key -- it's cold. I love the new Burial disc, but I can't listen to it unless the nighttime temperature dips into the 60s (remember, I live in balmy, humid South Florida).
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Anyone who likes Burial apparently because according to deej, Burial is trip-hop.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Heh, I live in North London, pretty different. Helps if you've got a bit of run down Victorian architecture about as well.
xpost
― chap, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
this seems like a lot of work
― carne asada, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Well I liked it pretty much straight away, but I fulfil all the criteria for liking it - it's basically partially about my city, and partially about recontextualising UK dance music, which I'm very interested in.
― chap, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I can see the resemblance.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah I don't think that's a controversial comparison at all. But I wouldn't call most fans of Burial trip-hop "fans" unless they are suddenly busting out Headz II or something.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the new one in small doses, but it annoys me as a whole. Should have been an EP.
― leavethecapital, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
sweet
http://www.dj-kicks.com/burial/
― poortheatre, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I was hoping for another fake tracklist.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link
oh i didn't see we'd already covered it
― poortheatre, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
It's on another of the million Burial threads, yeah.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I hope Burial comes out as Moby
― Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
It's just some guy. It's on his wikipedia page, I think.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
"William Bevan"
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
so much for the mystery
― Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
why does nobody believe my 'Burial was the white guy in Babycakes' rumour?
― blueski, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link
woop i mean 3 Of A Kind (Babycakes was the song)
erk, finally listened to this (Untrue). Its horrible, like Akon on mogadon.
― tomofthenest, Thursday, 29 January 2009 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link
One Trick Pony?
― Moka, Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh come ON. It's great, it really does sound like human burial. In frozen ground. It scares the piss out of people I don't like.
― u s steel, Friday, 30 January 2009 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Burial is good but it's really not that awesome next-level thing that you have been hungering for.
― Badder Meinhof Syndrome (libcrypt), Friday, 30 January 2009 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^how I break it down to an extent
― The Reverend, Friday, 30 January 2009 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link
it's really not that awesome next-level thing that you have been hungering for.
But really, what is?
― ilxor, Friday, 30 January 2009 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I downloaded the last one. Listened to it a couple of times. His DJ Kicks could be interesting though...
― sam500, Friday, 30 January 2009 06:13 (fifteen years ago) link
still dont really like the 2nd one anywhere near as the debut. the vocals on there dont really reach the 'deep' vibe theyre going for. they just sound a bit ropey.
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 30 January 2009 09:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i still have a lot of love for both albums, tbh. and while it's not the future of music or anything that second album is catchy as hell
― all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Friday, 30 January 2009 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link
― u s steel, Friday, 30 January 2009 03:55 (5 hours ago) Bookmark
If it sounded like The Marble Index with added bass, this'd be an A1 description. sadly not.
― tomofthenest, Friday, 30 January 2009 09:48 (fifteen years ago) link
why are people still talking about his DJ kicks? why the hell would i want to listen to the musical tastes of someone who gets 90% of his samples form cutscenes in in metal gear solid?
i love his music though.
― straightola, Friday, 30 January 2009 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link
The Marble Index is boring! Stop trying to be cool.
― u s steel, Friday, 30 January 2009 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link
word on that
― "manipulators of international finance" (special guest stars mark bronson), Friday, 30 January 2009 12:44 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, everyone knows desertshores is the cool choice
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 30 January 2009 12:46 (fifteen years ago) link
ah cobblers to ya. Nico would beat Burial in a scrap any day.
this is lovely, even though its from her manchester skaghead period.
― tomofthenest, Friday, 30 January 2009 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link
because he doesn't get 90% of his samples from mgs and it would seem from interviews he has a good grounding in 'ardkore, jungle and 2step.
Reason I'm not in any way anticipating his dj kicks is because he isn't a dj.
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Friday, 30 January 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link
He also samples unlistenable Ray J ballads.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59 (fifteen years ago) link
2 new tracks, last Wednesday! And nobody posted this here! Shame on y'all! ;-)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/benjib/
― StanM, Sunday, 22 February 2009 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link
:) Thanks!
― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 February 2009 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmmm...
― Number None, Saturday, 25 April 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
fourtet sucks anyway, i'm not particularly sad that i won't be getting this. anything that is that scarce is just taking the piss anyway.
― pipecock, Sunday, 26 April 2009 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link
why do you think four tet sucks?
― pshrbrn, Sunday, 26 April 2009 10:03 (fourteen years ago) link
wrong pedigree sherbs.
― Tim F, Sunday, 26 April 2009 10:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Bleep has a limited number of copies != limited edition
― StanM, Sunday, 26 April 2009 10:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought it was only through Bleep though?
― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 26 April 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.normanrecords.com/records/107118http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/search.asp?searchfor=exact&keywords=text007&searchType=TITLE&Go+%3E%3E%3E.x=0&Go+%3E%3E%3E.y=0&Go+%3E%3E%3E=Go&recor=1http://www.groovedis.com/shop/Burial-Four-Tet-MOTH-WOLF-CLUB-12-p-144323.htmlhttp://www.southern.com/southern/label/SRD/newreleases.html
(etc)
― StanM, Sunday, 26 April 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
OK.
― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 26 April 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
samples @ juno
http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/352434-01.htm
― StanM, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
hmmm, b side sounds alright but not mindblowing. i would buy it if i didnt have to go out of my way to do so.
― pipecock, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
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i don't really like four tet, but burial does it all. two great tracks. more house than dubstep.
― moullet, Sunday, 3 May 2009 07:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Um
We don't really do that here.
― StanM, Sunday, 3 May 2009 09:13 (fourteen years ago) link
we should start imo
― proxymuzak (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 3 May 2009 09:19 (fourteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/cryingeagle8oq.jpg
― Munter S Thompson (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 May 2009 09:56 (fourteen years ago) link
this is bliss
― cutty, Sunday, 3 May 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Is it out on download or just vinyl?
― Chris in Belfast, Sunday, 3 May 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF, Sunday, 3 May 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Just vinyl. xpost
― StanM, Sunday, 3 May 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
WANT! but don't would like to be able to get not online, and to avoid the inevitable large shipping costs to Canada.
― Edward Saroyan, Sunday, 3 May 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I think I prefer Moth to Wolf Cub but they both sound like collaborations to me. Does anyone know who's responsible for what? I would assume both sides are credited to both artists.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 4 May 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
The same goes for me, I prefer Moth, but it seems they both worked on both tracks. I can't say I'm blown off my feet, even though Moth is pretty good.
― Krapp's lesser-known First Tape (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 4 May 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
where the hell is the dj kicks?
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 4 May 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not happening. It was all a big lie.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 4 May 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I've just done a very scientific poll and 4 out of 4 people who have heard the single prefer Moth to Wolf Cub.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 4 May 2009 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i think "moth" is a bit slight in comparison, really. it's certainly prettier but it seems a little easier, as well.
― pshrbrn, Monday, 4 May 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, to be honest, neither of the tracks are worthy of the hype attached to a Four Tet/Burial project.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 4 May 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I like Wolf Cub a lot...I don't think Burial has any other drum samples at this point, but the last 3 minutes or so are great
― Malcolm Money, Monday, 4 May 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
OTM
― Krapp's lesser-known First Tape (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 4 May 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i sort of expected a four tet/burial project to go wrong, so i was pleasantly surprised
― vergangenheitsbewaeltigung (later arpeggiator), Monday, 4 May 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
moonship ruined burials dj kicks w/ his fake tracklist :((
― The Macallan 18 Year, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link
tracklisting leaked for burial!!!
"stir it up" - bob marley "i can see clearly now" - johnny nash "don't turn around" - ace of base "six underground" - sneaker pimps "love theme from 'last temptation of christ'" - peter gabriel "mutant jazz" - t power "we tryin to stay alive" - wyclef "here i come baby" - ub40 "emergency on planet earth" - jamiroquai "alphabet aerobics" - blackalicious "high hopes" - tali "digital" - goldie ft krs-one "tomorrow people" - ziggy marley "i can see clearly now" - johnny nash
-- moonship journey to baja, Thursday, April 24, 2008
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Vahid psyched him with his awesome hypothetical tracklist - Burial knew he couldn't top it.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link
the funny thing was that at the time i was trying to come up with the WORST tracklisting i could imagine stuffed with the tackiest shit possible ... but looking at it now it actually sounds like a rad mix to me ... sort of, anyway
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
"i can see clearly now" - johnny nash
so nice fake burial fake picked it fake twice
― The Macallan 18 Year, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
mmmmothhhhh
― jergins, Tuesday, 5 May 2009 05:55 (fourteen years ago) link
some bright spark on the dubstepforum spotted this in the st holdings release list:
"dBridge ‘Wonder Where’:... Wonder Where is quite unique in the way it is regularly getting played in the sets of DJs from many genres. Drum n bass dj’s such asMarcus Intalex, to soulfull house Dj’s like Benji B, and also Dubstep pioneer DJ Skream has regularly been finishing his sets with it.Dubstep legend Burial has also seen fit to include it in his upcoming DJ Kicks mix."
so, hmm.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Friday, 29 May 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Hmm, indeed. Burial's DJ Kicks album is the new Chinese Democracy.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 29 May 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Just heard the new Burial track, "Fostercare", on Hyperdub's 5: Five Years of Hyperdub comp ...
MASSIVE tune.
I'm close to saying this guy steps up his game with each subsequent release.
― untrue pitch, Monday, 5 October 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
That comp just hit eMusic today. Yeah, the Burial track sounds amazing.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 5 October 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
burial track sounds like a chill lounge comp joint
why is this so amazingly great 2 u
― xhuxk mangione (deej), Monday, 5 October 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
barely sounds like there's a song there at all
― een, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link
this is not his best, don't even think it sounds as good as the two unreleased ones that were aired on the radio
― mh, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Admittedly, it's a subtle track; requires a longer attention span than a lot of music these days. But there's some pretty stunning work going on in there. This isn't a giant leap forward, but a refinement of his sound.
A lot of dubstep (even a lot of the good stuff) tries to grab your attention from the start with some insane new beat. I think one of the reasons Burial will be remembered as one of the genre's greats is because of his sense of restraint. He can hold back on the novelty on one track and then just kill it with a massive beat on the next.
― untrue pitch, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link
are you serious
― xhuxk mangione (deej), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link
surprised no one's posted this today:
'In a forthcoming interview with Clash, Daddy G of Bristol legends Massive Attack reveals that Burial is planning to make a remix album of Massive Attack material, in a modern equivalent of 1995's Massive Attack and No (sic) Professor's No Protection.
"I don't know if I should really say this … What the plan is... you know that Mad Professor record that we did? (1995's No Protection). Essentially trying to get that together, where Burial essentially remixes quite a lot of the new tracks. Brings out a different version of quite a lot of the tracks that we've done".'
http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3599&Itemid=26
― mikebee (BATTAGS), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Thought about posting that, but it smelled a little too much like the DJ Kicks announcement from last year. Still waiting for that one! (http://www.amazon.co.uk/DJ-Kicks-Burial/dp/B00195HVBQ)
― untrue pitch, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't even trust that Daddy G really knows what's going on with that project. But, hey ... hoping to be surprised.
― untrue pitch, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't say that Fostercare is among Burial's best tracks, but I like it. It is slight, but that's part of the appeal. I love how you can hear the footsteps falling through the song, like you're following someone wandering the streets alone at night. And the vocal bits are a bit more varied than on Untrue, in pitch, texture and the distortion applied to them.
So not his best song, by any means. But an interesting piece of noir.
Some of the other tracks on Disc One of this Hyperdub comp are slammin', e.g., the Darkstar and Flying Lotus tracks.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 6 October 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe i just dont get the point of his shit altogether
― xhuxk mangione (deej), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link
No worries. I don't get Vampire Weekend.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 6 October 2009 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"maybe i just dont get the point of his shit altogether"
That sort of defeats the purpose of listening to him then.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
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i dont like VW shit but i 'get it,' like it has an internal logic & i see where the appeal lies. every defense of this ive read feels reducible to folks being really really glad someone could turn 2step into idm a decade late (give a facile but pretend-intellectualized 'justification' for pop music that doesn't obviously appeal to ppl's populist impulses, just their anti-populist ones)
― xhuxk mangione (deej), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link
like, its the kind of thing i dig for a song but i cant really get on board with this 'the artist is a genius & his albums are near perfect' kind of stuff ... it just seems like compared to the endless variety & quality in the genres as a whole that he's inspired by there's a lot more going on, many more strands to follow
― xhuxk mangione (deej), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
every defense of this ive read feels reducible to folks being really really glad someone could turn 2step into idm a decade late (give a facile but pretend-intellectualized 'justification' for pop music that doesn't obviously appeal to ppl's populist impulses, just their anti-populist ones)― xhuxk mangione (deej)
― xhuxk mangione (deej)
Pop music that only appeals to people's anti-populist impulses? Huh?? Are you discussing Burial or Paris Hilton's musical output? ...
Kidding aside, I'm curious what Burial song does work for you then (?)
― untrue pitch, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 04:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i liked 'archangel' for awhile. i thought it made sense w/ the narrative that kinda came up around his music. its just that this narrative works for a song but doesnt really feel like it deserves to define an artist's career, or something -- there's not enough there to maintain my interest over more than a track
― xhuxk mangione (deej), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRWSvzbFRLU
this new burial track is way more groundbreaking imho
― xhuxk mangione (deej), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
legend of a tune
― Fallopian Journey in Oprah (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought Burial was a nerdier Massive Attack for the 2000s, with a little bit of the idm baggage along for the ride. Which is fine, because I really like his stuff.
Almost posted that Daddy G quote, but if you read the original interview, it sounds more like the idea of approaching him's there, not necessarily that he's been approached. Anyone from MA saying they're going to do something is best approached with an "oh, that's a neat idea" if you like it, or dismissive eye-rolling...
― mh, Thursday, 8 October 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/nov/23/burial-untrue
wrong fucking album.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 23 November 2009 10:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Untrue is so much better though.
― abcfsk, Monday, 23 November 2009 10:57 (fourteen years ago) link
it isnt, hence why it is the wrong album ;)
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 23 November 2009 11:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I think they both have things to recommend them. Like the vocals on the second one a lot. The first is more 'tracky' - which also is also a good thing.
― Treblekicker, Monday, 23 November 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
yea i like the first one a lot more
― mark cl, Monday, 23 November 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
2nd one was like him trying to get a bit more commercial and song-y except he didnt realise he couldnt actually write songs
plus he got some really average vocalists
i suppose he thought he could write a few new 'gabriel's for the dubstep era
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 23 November 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't really see it that way. I just saw it as more vocal heavy, not more song structured. To this day I still listen to both. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
― Treblekicker, Monday, 23 November 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i should give it another go really.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 23 November 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.roughtrade.com/site/shop_detail.lasso?search_type=sku&sku=337699
BURIAL / FOUR TET AND THOM YORKEego / mirror
Release Date: Pre-Release (Expected on 21/03/2011)plain black house bag and black label. limited two track collaborative twelve inch from burial / four tet and thom yorke. this limited surprise-release is in keeping with all things thom yorke: always searching for new ways to sound and to catch his audience unawares. thom yorke has been a champion of the cutting edge electronica and dubstep scenes from the start and here we see the fruits of three of the most important minds on the contemporary music scene locked together in electronic matrimony. be quick on this one...
― Number None, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Bleep say: 'The tracks will get their first airing tonight (Tuesday 15th) on Rinse FM during the Four Tet vs Floating Points 2hr back-to-back 2300-0100 GMT'
― jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Surely the most inevitable collab ever but if it's as good as Moth with added Thom it could be amazing.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry, the item you have selected is either Sold Out or Temporarily Unavailable
go back
― superflyguy, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link
*in American tour agent's office*
"We hear you're into dubstep now, Thom, and we wanted to see about this great coheadlining spot with Skrillex we've got lined up...hello?"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah moth is poss the best thing either of those guys did so as long as yorke is like a minor sample im down w/ this. it might be like the flying lotus reckoner
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link
How long did this take to sell out?
― oigwheoiqng4g (seandalai), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds like you werent quick on this one
― just sayin, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ_Yu_4zeo0
― Melissa W, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ "look forward to hearing this on youtube tomorrow" this debuted like an hour ago right?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
also lol this is exactly what i wanted it to be i guess
Don't think Burial is actually involved with this track but I can't find the link to his side of the 12 inch.
― Melissa W, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
hebdens dubstep toe dipping is way more interesting to me than anything he had done pre-ringer.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOwD67BIPMA
Here's the other one.
― Melissa W, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm into this!
― corey, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Both solid tracks, though I wouldn't say they're pushing any boundaries. Feels like the first one has little Burial input - it's more deep house or something than any kind of dubstep - the second makes a lot of sense as a meeting of soundworlds.
― oigwheoiqng4g (seandalai), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link
they're just like really good gold panda tracks
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah they don't sound anything like Gold Panda though,
― Number None, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
lol "ok" i actually checked gold panda in my itunes in case i got the name wrong there i didnt btw
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Gold Panda is basically biting Four Tet/The Field anyway from what i've heard but i don't think either of these sound particularly like him. Certainly not Mirror, which sounds like Burial surprisingly enough.
― Number None, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
"Mirror" is great. looking forward to rips with some real low-end action.
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link
These are amazing. Yorke should have thrown Feral into the garbage can and buy the rights to any of these for King of Limbs instead. Imagine how sweet it'd be if Four Tet or Burial joined the rest of Radiohead for an album/tour. I'd definitely be interested in hearing how Johnny Greenwood could contribute to their sound.
― Moka, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Also this might just be me but Four Tet seems to be the real genius behind these burial/four tet collabs. Burial has been a one trick pony for a while now and seriously needs to consider a change of palette in his samples.
― Moka, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link
moka otm about burial. he should have quit after the first album cos he cant seem to go anywhere else after that other than not quite as good tweaks on what he already did perfectly first time round. though i didnt think the tracks with yorke were that amazing.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Ego sounds like a remix of Robin S's Show Me Love!
― superflyguy, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i mean the best tricks on this are the four tet tricks i think, but idk i was a little let down by the last four tet album bc after moth/ringer/love cry i thought he was going down the post-ds path farther than he did, so like I appreciate any excuse he has for making this kind of record.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link
that is to say i wish he would dump the folktronica remnants bc he does blurry house music so well
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
thought the same thing about the four tet album — too many past-expiry trip-hop drum samples
― corey, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
the last Four Tet was way more 'blurry house' than 'folktronica'. maybe i should play it again. actually, i'm going to put it on right now.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link
idk maybe ur right, one two many harp samples tho
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
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― corey, Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:47 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
agree with this sentiment
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 16 March 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd definitely be interested in hearing how Johnny Greenwood could contribute to their sound.
I could do with some Xenakis glissandoes behind these
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Like both tracks a lot!
― Z S, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Vinyl rips are amazing.
― Melissa W, Friday, 18 March 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
BurialStreet Halo(Hyperdub)After last week's shock release from Four Tet, Thom Yorke and Burial, we are again very excited to bring you news from one of the most mysterious figures in electronic music...
This Monday, Burial will release his first full solo release in over 4 years. A three track 12" to be released on Hyperdub, the A-side is titled "Street Halo", with two supporting tracks "NYC" and "Stolen Dog".
http://bleep.com/index.php?page=release_details&releaseid=29025
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link
ill wait until i hear it.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link
"one of the most mysterious figures in electronic music"
C'mon, this is getting a bit old now isn't it? We know who Burial is iirc
― La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link
OR DO WE?!
― i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link
It's press, what do you expect?
― corey, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link
but he still doesn't play live or do much press, right?
― adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/products/Burial-StreetHalo-Hyperdub-75467.html
the first taster of his upcoming album.
― StanM, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
twitter.com/hyperdub:
Tonight I'll be on Benji B's show on BBC Radio 1.I'll be previewing some Hyperdub releases, including some tracks from my new album with Spaceape.and forthcoming music on the label from Hype Williams, DOK and Ossie.I'll also be giving you a taster of new solo material from Burial that we will place in your shops in the next few days.
about 9 hours ago via web
― StanM, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Radio ripzhttp://soundcloud.com/listenbeforeyoubuy/burial-street-halohttp://soundcloud.com/listenbeforeyoubuy/burial-stolen-dog
― Number None, Thursday, 24 March 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link
^ both vv promising imo
― StanM, Thursday, 24 March 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, impressed with Street Halo first time round - it's sounding really danceable!
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 24 March 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it seems like "raver" is the template for the new stuff
― adult music person (Jordan), Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a little bit 2stepy.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Smart move imo.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
other tantalising bits are online @ bleep now: http://bleep.com/index.php?page=release_details&releaseid=29025
― StanM, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
here too http://www.juno.co.uk/products/421730-01.htm
― StanM, Thursday, 24 March 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Full versions of all three tracksStolen Dog - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72wv9_fYjdU&feature=player_embeddedNYC - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAQDQm8PJ8I&feature=player_embeddedStreet Halo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCKHjmfaeTg&feature=player_embedded
― Number None, Friday, 25 March 2011 07:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Damn those were supposed to be just links. Anyway.
― Number None, Friday, 25 March 2011 07:59 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a little bit 2stepy.― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:08 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
Like everything else he's done?
This is deeeeeeeeeeeeeep. Like the idea of him playing live - copying & pasting samples into Soundforge!
― stooping as low to include electronic blips and bloops (superflyguy), Friday, 25 March 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
this is excellent
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Friday, 25 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Burial vs. Corey Hart <<< important connection imo
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Saturday, 26 March 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Sure he's a one trick pony, but I still really like that trick.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 26 March 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
brotherlovesdubstep OTM
― StanM, Saturday, 26 March 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Pure solo Burial >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colabs
Its so good to have him back.
Not that the colabs/remixes have been bad or owt...
― jimitheexploder, Saturday, 26 March 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
"okie dokie"
― StanM, Sunday, 27 March 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
lol burial collabs are usually better than orig. still think moth/wolfcub is the best release w/ his name on it.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
my full thoughts on Street Halo here
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm glad he's dropped that (excuse my terminological illiteracy) "echo beat" that you kept reappearing on Untrue in at least the first 3 songs and a couple later.
The only way I can describe it is that it goes "boomph-ba-da-da-boomph-ba-da - COONK"... "boompha-ba-da-daboomph-ba-da - COONK"
― Radical Adults Lick Based God Style (kelpolaris), Monday, 28 March 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link
^ otm
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 04:34 (thirteen years ago) link
but I mean it really was weird and I was fairly surprised that critics seemed to generally ignore it. It took a couple listenings to realize that he just wasn't transferring the same beat from song to song and only differentiating between them by song titles and atmospherics/samples.
― Radical Adults Lick Based God Style (kelpolaris), Monday, 28 March 2011 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, I would argue that the beat you are describing, and variations of it, are his signature. You know it's him instantly. He owns it. And for me personally, it still works at album length.
― Mark, Monday, 28 March 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hyperdub-Records/52054255148
Hyperdub RecordsDigital of the Burial will be available this week, not today, but this week.We will let you know via the Mailing list for your convenience.3 hours ago
Hyperdub RecordsThis is the Burial single - there is no new album.3 hours ago
― StanM, Monday, 28 March 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure why anyone would mistake 3 songs / 19 mins for an album??
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
There were rumors that this could be the first taster of an album later this year.
― StanM, Monday, 28 March 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
mp3 & wav @ hyperdub.net , y'all
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
error messages galore.
Paid, but then hyperdub.net threw up a load of "your order is incomplete" and "error processing your transaction" messages and now I don't even see a way to login there anymore. :-(
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
You got Buriolled!
― La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
"web design by FAIL"
indeed.
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Duh. If you sign up with upper case letters in your password, you have to log in with lowercase because the site apparently converts your password into lowercase.Got the files now.
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
The guy who ripped the vinyl had one of the bad pressings, clearly. The title track sounds a lot less distorted.
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
<3
― StanM, Sunday, 3 April 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link
New Burial EP: Kindred
http://www.hyperdub.net/releases/view/149/HDB059
― StanM, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
All the tracks are really long
― Number None, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
You can always pause them if you need a toilet break halfway through.
― StanM, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
What I meant is, I don't think they justify their length. "Loner" is the shortest and the most interesting I think
― Number None, Monday, 13 February 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty much loving the shit out of this imho.
― StanM, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
this is OTM http://thequietus.com/articles/07997-burial-pseud-quotes
― owenf, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
new stuff, cool
― Bee OK, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
is there bass in these tracks i'm not hearing?
― the late great, Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
this is the most boring new music i have heard this week
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 08:33 (twelve years ago) link
classic lex
― encarta it (Gukbe), Friday, 17 February 2012 08:48 (twelve years ago) link
"Street Halo" left me cold, and I was beginning to think that "Moth" was the last thing about this guy that I would ever like but I'm really digging this EP.
― encarta it (Gukbe), Friday, 17 February 2012 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
i was hoping for a drop..
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 17 February 2012 09:04 (twelve years ago) link
tracks are way too long but so good
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
i too was hoping for a drop ... i'm not going to say these are the worst or most boring tracks i've heard all week but they're certainly the most disappointing in a while (in general, not specific to burial).
i really like where "loner" goes at the 3-minute mark but i can't help thinking it would have been so much better in the hands of, say, magnetic man
― the late great, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
also was thinking he's starting to get very close to the sound of cosmin trg, maybe we can get a remix
― the late great, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
not overwhelmed by this but still hoping this is a joke.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
also is there discernible bass on any burial track ever?
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
there was discernable and quite thuggish bass on "street halo" which is why i was so excited for this EP
not a joke, sir, "i need air" better than all this burial tracks, proven by science
― the late great, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really like any other magnetic man tracks though so i don't know why i said that, i just wish he'd GONE FOR IT or something
― the late great, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
cliched Burial listening: this was lovely in the London rain the other night.
― kraudive, Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
Best spot in London to listen to Burial is under the bridge near Finsbury Park station, I've found. Particularly when waiting for a heavily-delayed night bus.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
I know the place - used to be a spot I frequented often when I first moved to London.
"The other night" I was on the DLR from Canning Town to Woolwich. Pretty perfect also.
― kraudive, Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
I can't wait to get the vinyl of this to see how it is HMMsupposedHMM to sound. I like it enough at the moment but the bass on my earphones is lacking - esp. in the first minutes of the first track.
― kraudive, Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
Kindred the track is kind of catchy for an 11 minute ambient opus with no more than fragmented melodies.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Sunday, 19 February 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, February 17, 2012 3:33 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Monday, 20 February 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
I like "Loner" best.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
it's the danciest one
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
Burial listeners all seem to spend their entire lives waiting in the rain for a night bus that never comes.
― Tim F, Monday, 20 February 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it's kind of like hearing a big trance anthem coming from a distant room in a haunted house you're lost in.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 20 February 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
xp this is also what living in london is like
― judith, Monday, 20 February 2012 09:18 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, February 20, 2012 1:12 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the trouble is people who think that the distant room/haunted house stuff is necessary for big trance anthems to be interesting
― lex pretend, Monday, 20 February 2012 09:29 (twelve years ago) link
In fairness if you go clubbing in London regularly you end up doing this A LOT.
I haven't heard this record yet and don't have much interest in doing so but pretty sure there are better battle lines to pick than Campaign For Real Trance.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 20 February 2012 09:52 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Monday, February 20, 2012 9:29 AM (2 hours ago)
Trance is a genre I generally find quite uninteresting without some kind of twist. Sorry about that.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Monday, 20 February 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
The skips and cut outs on the track 'Ashtray Wasp' are intentional.
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 20 February 2012 12:24 (twelve years ago) link
Is that a sample of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" in Ashtray Wasp?
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
New track with Four Tet: http://soundcloud.com/four-tet/burial-four-tet-nova
― Humperdin C.K. (seandalai), Monday, 5 March 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks! How did you know so quickly after it was uploaded?
― StanM, Monday, 5 March 2012 09:28 (twelve years ago) link
I've only heard Kindred off of this so far. Personally find it incredible, especially turned right up on decent cans. Especially, yes, walking under overcast skies as I did on Sunday. It's long, but it's definitely set into three distinct movements. The most effective trick is that "lightning crash" that sounds like it's made up of several sounds clustered together, and the way the vocal samples seem to form around these - there's an awful lot of tension - pressure in the meteorological sense of the word.
― Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Monday, 5 March 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago) link
StanM: I am Burial obv. Actually I saw it on a friend's Facebook feed...
― Humperdin C.K. (seandalai), Monday, 5 March 2012 12:50 (twelve years ago) link
:-)
http://pitchfork.com/news/45633-listen-burial-four-tet-nova/
Well that's a surprise: Four Tet has tweeted a Soundcloud link to a collaboration he did with Burial titled "Nova". The tweet also included "TEXT013," implying the song will be the 13th release on Four Tet's Text Records imprint.
― StanM, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
Ah, that's what Kindred reminds me of - Dwr Budr by Orbital.
― Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Monday, 5 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2012/03/07/hyperdub-to-release-burial-eps-on-cd/
― StanM, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
I noticed this was available in Japan already. Was hoping it would get a full release.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
This comp will actually be the best Burial album, I think.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
Loner!
― Virtual Bart (EDB), Monday, 19 March 2012 09:21 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, thanks for the heads up on this, pre-ordered it straight away.
― phuturephase, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2012/06/26/stream-samples-of-dusk-blackdowns-next-single-on-keysound-remind-you-of-anyone/http://thequietus.com/articles/09170-listen-new-burial-dusk-blackdown-keysound
― StanM, Friday, 29 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
Idgi. Are they suggesting Blackdown is Burial? I thought we already knew who Burial was?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
It's credited as Dusk + Blackdown +
the second + being Burial
― Number None, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
ahhh
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 July 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
There's a new single
― azaera, Monday, 3 December 2012 09:09 (eleven years ago) link
Please please please be a Christmas single
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
Or at least get the xmas number 1 spot via a Facebook campaign.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 3 December 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
60-second clips (can't listen at work). Probably hard to judge based on these, I imagine.
http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/12/stream-clips-of-burials-new-ep-truant-rough-sleeper-a-k-a-one-two/
― azaera, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
I'm enjoying just letting the two clips loop endlessly
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
IT'S HERE:http://noisey.vice.com/blog/burial-just-dropped-a-new-ep-and-hot-damn-is-it-good
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 14 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
Or more importantly, here's where you can actually buy it:http://www.hyperdub.net/releases/view/207/HDB069
― mh, Friday, 14 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
GOOD TRY MR. VICE STREET TEAM
― mh, Friday, 14 December 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
Bought it last night, listened to it a few times with errrr 'suitable' accompaniment...not sure what to make of it yet, feels/is more framgented than we're used to from him. Some of those fragments are lush, almost-housey in their bounce, others are Burial-by-numbers spectral washes with that chain on metal sound he loves. One of the sections samples some late 90s/early00s dance track that's super obvious but I can't quite place it for some reason.
We put on the Kindred EP straight after and I've got to admit that it made this new one sound a bit slight.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 15 December 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link
rough sleeper is fantastic!
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 15 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
They're both fantastic. There's very few producers who can come with a similar sound every time and not get boring
― paolo, Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
I find "Truant" to be the stronger track. They're both messier and 'sketchier' than his previous releases (including "Ashtray Wasp"). "Rough Sleeper" has some great passages, but it's a bit of a mess as a whole, with some parts more successful than others.
But the build up and sequencing of the first eight and a half minutes of "Truant" are breathtaking... Bevan has a great sense of drama. The segment between 3:50 and 5:13 is some of the best work he's done. I might lazily describe it as Indo-Caribbean Futurism (?) that only could've come out of the UK. It easily gives Shackleton a run for his money. The track sounds a bit like an evolution of the aesthetics of "Fostercare".
A bit of a mixed bag as a whole. Still a worthy effort, though. Would love to see a proper album built on some of the ideas heard here and on Kindred.
― azaera, Saturday, 15 December 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
Feels like a mini-album of many short tracks. Took a few listens to get into, but I do love this now.
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
I sort of agree with that 'mini-album' comment. Each track does seem to have 2 or 3 distinct sections. The first time I listened I thought the tracks had changed but they hadn't.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
"Rough Sleeper" has some great passages
well that's what happened to me. one particular passage in Rough Sleeper is in loop in my head. the perfect soundtrack for the rainy saturday
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 16 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
On first listen I think Truant sounds a lot more interesting. Most of Rough Sleeper is kind of rote.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 17 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
This thing's a grower.
Still not quite sure what to make of the whole organ segment of "Rough Sleeper". There's little as far as momentum to the beat and not really an ambient feel either; kind of stuck somewhere in the middle. But god do things pick up after that. The "light surrounding you" vocals and the chimes are such a welcome new direction.
And "Truant" is still a stunner.
― azaera, Monday, 7 January 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
feels like the most refined, 'pop' thing he's done. even if it's a complex series of developing sections or movements. even if he's using a chintz-y lexicon unit to pitch his sounds. don't really consider myself a burial fan, but i've played this new one(two) endlessly. nice to have such frequent, and increasingly varied output from somebody.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
was pretty bored by these tracks myself
― beard papa, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
So is there anything to this?: http://equalizermag.com/news/four-tet-confirms-he-is-burial/
Or does everyone know this already?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
ha, this really seems like bullshit.
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
I didn't know it but a friend said he was told back in 2007.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
Hebden talks about his "collaboration" with Burial in this Pitchfork interview from 2010:
http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7752-four-tet/
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
otoh that equalizer website seems like a joke website so
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/latest-news/is-burial-actually-four-tet-hoax-resurfaces-online-128103
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ACq6Ija.jpg
― Number None, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
Ha.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
I'd kind of like this to be true, but it seems unlikely.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
https://twitter.com/FourTet/status/347672091333644288
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 20 June 2013 11:38 (ten years ago) link
nice try four tet we know you're burial. don't try to pretend you're not.
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 20 June 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link
I've seen people link various news from Equalizemag.com, but that site appears to be like The Onion for electronic music, i.e. it consists of nothing but parody news.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 20 June 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
This item from the same site was making the rounds a couple of weeks ago, and people seemed to believe that too.
I doubt anyone believed this one, though:
http://equalizermag.com/news/unreleased-boards-of-canada-7-inch-discovered-beneath-feces-at-dog-park/
― Tuomas, Thursday, 20 June 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link
also 'james blake to launch line of organic cotton shirts' made me lol inexplicably hard
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
me TOO
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
i like that there is a version of the onion for electronic music news. i don't like that it isn't very funny, or doesn't seem to be.
― Treeship, Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
http://store.massiveattack.com/landing-page/massive-attack-v-burial-digital.html
― StanM, Friday, 25 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
yeah man, that's a cool release
― illegalblues, Friday, 25 October 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
Available digitally for the first time, it's also one of the first items on Massive Attack's new web store.
― StanM, Saturday, 26 October 2013 04:52 (ten years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1JzK424lawM
― clouds, Saturday, 26 October 2013 11:29 (ten years ago) link
Incidentally I know someone that actually SAW sisqo perform live recently.
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Saturday, 26 October 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2013/12/02/burial-announces-new-three-track-ep-for-hyperdub-out-december/
Good news, the last few eps have been probably his best work imo.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 2 December 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 2 December 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link
Daniel OTM
― StanM, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link
Good
― cardamon, Monday, 2 December 2013 06:17 (ten years ago) link
'Ashtray Wasp' now his greatest song IMO
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 2 December 2013 10:56 (ten years ago) link
That bit where the riff comes in quietly at about 1.45 is one of my favourite ever bits where a riff comes in
― cardamon, Monday, 2 December 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link
And that cycling bit at about 3.16
― cardamon, Monday, 2 December 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link
And yeah - it is ashtray wasp that has that bit at 8.00 where it turns into a weird glam groove in a scary sad mist and goes 'Darkness falls upon me' (or is it flies? lies?)
That's a bit of burial I'm always looking for and always forgetting which song it's in
― cardamon, Monday, 2 December 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link
Dunno about anyone else, but I think negative emotions are extremely difficult to put into a piece of music that you'd actually (honestly) want to listen to, it requires a pitch-perfect sensibility to avoid turning into parody – Burial today one of the few people who can do this?
― cardamon, Monday, 2 December 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link
Ashtray Wasp also has the really sad submerged jazz ending
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 2 December 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link
It doesn't get sadder than In McDonalds does it lads?"You look different"
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 2 December 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link
^ ^ ^
― cardamon, Monday, 2 December 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link
knew there was a special reason for my morningwood today.
― illegalblues, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
rough sleeper for me, tho ashtray wasp gets extra points for sampling cheap-trick.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
http://youtu.be/vBoTdWSYleI
gettin' pStoked, raming up for the new one.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
errritt.. RAMPING up for it?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
Earlier today, http://www.theorchard.co.uk/release/888003991057/burial/rival-dealer was taken down. It contained this info:" 23 dec. 2013 - UPC: 888003991057. Tracklisting. 1. Rival Dealer. 2. Hiders. 3. Come Down to Us "
Guessing the date might be the physical release since digital was going to be next week (Dec 16th)
― StanM, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Good.
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link
Never know what to say when anticipating something.
El-B's Serious is a tune by the way – I think it gets mentioned as a possible Burial influence upthread
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 04:29 (ten years ago) link
possible sample of the title track
sounds, superficially at least, like burial, but it's a lot more aggressive than the other recent work. again, if it's genuine.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 05:25 (ten years ago) link
okay, so possible samples of all three songs from the new ep. not convinced these are genuine, but they certainly could be.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 05:35 (ten years ago) link
http://www.hyperdub.net/releases/view/258/HDB080
― StanM, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:48 (ten years ago) link
that title track is fantastic. and with the second-half of that song, he's still experimenting with longer, weirder, more ambient song-structures (like he did on the truant/rough-sleeper ep).
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:01 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd3Ch53PxBs&feature=share&list=UUNvfjGiZOuh78KYMojvugeQ&index=5
― Barnaby, Hardly, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1bb2JakOmo&feature=share&list=UUNvfjGiZOuh78KYMojvugeQ&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY0FLh2EIfs&feature=share&list=UUNvfjGiZOuh78KYMojvugeQ
― Barnaby, Hardly, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link
the beginning of hiders reminds me a little of david foster's instrumental theme to st. elmo's fire? but i really dig it, especially as it builds to something almost rock-ish sounding.
this ep feels like a fairly big departure (into interesting directions) to me. initial impression is that this ep is one of the best things i've heard this year.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link
St. Elmo's Fire meets To Live and Die in LA -- Foster/Wang Chung soundclash.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
yeah!
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
um, two of the three official mp3s are called ... - Burlal - ...
― StanM, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
and it's... wow... different but great
― StanM, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
wow
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
yeah. it's pop-ish at points. the fact magazine insta-review got a lot of things wrong, in my view, but they finished with an interesting discussion about subject-matter that might be embedded in the subtext of the EP.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
man the full-on dream pop in the first half of Come Down To Us is just gorgeous
― kyenkyen, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
fairly sure if you combined burial's two 2013-ish EPs into a single album, it would be my favorite of the year.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
i love how some of the snare sounds on this will probably be most divisive thing about it. but it's poppy and weird and gorgeous.
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
i'm loving this. i feel like there've been glimpses of burial approaching something resembling pop/house in the last two, little melodious rave-y suites we hear snatches of here and there, but nothing as fully fleshed out as on this one.
― kyenkyen, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
omg such bangers!!
― spacemindy, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
it's almost a little weird to hear burial acknowledge relatively recent sounds (sampling auto-tuned vox, 16th note hi-hats), but that quickly gets subsumed into the dream-pop thing and overall burialness.
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
more like boringal
― ienjoyhotdogs, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
MODED
― the late great, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
OMG, edgy (xpost)
I wonder if they released it early so it wouldn't be too near Mandela's burial.
― StanM, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
"Hiders" >>> "Rival Dealer"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
Hiders is insane
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
the whole ep is insanely good.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
yeah, these are off putting, right off.. good to see he's fucking around with the formula though. might need some headphones for these, and a proper format.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
The first bit of melody on 'Come Down To Us' - I think that's a rhodes piano with some autotuned vocals over it? – is really sentimental and cheesy but the way its been looped makes it have loads of pathos
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
Sounds like the sound-loops you hear ringing out as mobile phone ringtones and on adverts? Anyone else feel this?
― cardamon, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
Does this mean he isn't Four Tet anymore?
― StanM, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
best person in the game right now, greatest artist in the world, and I mean artist
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
the tom fill at 2:43 in 'hiders' is funniest thing ever to happen on a burial record
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
totally agree with this.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
I love this EP. Not expecting this turn at all, and it's all the better for it.
― Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
is this ep going to be made available on itunes in the us?
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 12 December 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
it's stateside street date is on the 17th, so it'll likely be up then.
― kyenkyen, Thursday, 12 December 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
burial has basically surprised me with every release. thank god for that dude.
― Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Thursday, 12 December 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
this sounds aight
― the late great, Thursday, 12 December 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link
as someone with v little time for burial in general, these are the first burial tracks i've wanted to play again since "archangel". a christmas coming out story, huh
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 December 2013 08:29 (ten years ago) link
The second half of 'Come Down to Us' is...its like an ascension to heaven or something. The moment when that lone voices says "I saw myself crying" jesus christ
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:01 (ten years ago) link
*lone voice ffs
― the late great, Thursday, 12 December 2013 02:31 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Thursday, 12 December 2013 08:29 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
concur
seems he has become a p decent successor to dj shadow all in all
― r|t|c, Thursday, 12 December 2013 10:29 (ten years ago) link
I feel a bit like I'm being trolled by Burial on those last two tracks.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link
these are kinda terrible imo. i mean not in a way that affronts me, they're like p much his usual sound with an "innovation" of some faintly pop elements which are sort of jarring or bordering on silly. all sounds like the weeknd too.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 December 2013 11:18 (ten years ago) link
I can't tell if those tracks are inspired and interesting or kinda terrible. #confused
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link
jarring and silly and confusing and terrible are all improvements in this dude's usually tedious case
― r|t|c, Thursday, 12 December 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link
arguably, yeah.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 12 December 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link
tracks 2 and 3 definitely bring the Saturdays=Youth vibes
― mums go off when i enter the building (monotony), Thursday, 12 December 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link
Come Down To Us is completely ridiculous, isn't it?
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
I think I'm obsessed with the sprawling hot mess that is this track. The "you are not alone" sample drop at like 10:30 is so hilarious. "There's something out there..." And the concluding dialogue at the end of being transgendered? So the theme is like a Walt Disney meets hardcore continuum Christmas coming out prog-opera?
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, this track. I'm inspired to write some Come Down To Us fan fiction.
If anything, it counters some of the more tasteful, selective nostalgia for the nuum.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
This whole queer aspect of the EP, this is really an unexpected turn right? It's like Burial meets DJ Sprinkles.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Is the sample of the transgendered person at the end the same person that is sampled on the last track on his debut "I went in to the bathroom to get some aspirin and I happened to look in the mirror and I swear to God I see something that I can't describe but it sure as hell is not my reflection"?
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Thursday, 12 December 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
It's like Burial meets DJ Sprinkles.
sounds like a great music combination, actually.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 12 December 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
The transgendered person talking is Lana Wachowski, Don't think she appeared on the s/t.
― mums go off when i enter the building (monotony), Thursday, 12 December 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
idk and maybe this is a cross-post w/ the gender identity thread but the whole prospect of being trapped in a body that isn't "who you are" sounds deeply unsettling and fits w/ burial's project i think. the "other rooms, other worlds" bit at the end of Come Down To Us is key here-- giving voice to liminal states, androgynous voices/vocal samples where the gender is switched mid-sample, ~murkiness~ etc-- all this is old-hat burial stuff, only thing that's new here is a level of explicitness that has been missing from his catalog. or else is new to my ears at least.
― kyenkyen, Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
This is really not a good record. It is, however, awesome.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
its def goofy as hell, esp side B
― kyenkyen, Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
yeah I really don't know what to make of it
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
Actually, the EP kind of has the high-gloss blockbuster camp of a Lana & Andy Wachowski production.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 12 December 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
It's more divisive than I expected/some of my friends are less open minded than I thought.
― StanM, Thursday, 12 December 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
This is doing absolutely nothing for me, and I've always liked if not loved everything before.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 13 December 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
facebook notification sound
― deeja entendu (wins), Friday, 13 December 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
lol
here's my take:http://crackmagazine.net/music/burial/
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Saturday, 14 December 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
nicely done. review also prompted me to seek-out this website, which identifies samples used in songs, posts clips of both songs and pinpoints the sampled moment in both of them.
would never have guessed that the stone-roses were sampled in ashtray wasp.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link
burial sent a message to a bbc 6 show about the rival-dealer ep:
I put my heart into the new EP, I hope someone likes it. I wanted the tunes to be anti-bullying tunes that could maybe help someone to believe in themselves, to not be afraid, and to not give up, and to know that someone out there cares and is looking out for them.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
A+ review Dwight Yorke (unexpected major spelling breakdown (two words?) in the first line of the last paragraph though?)
― StanM, Saturday, 14 December 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/beriel4furtit2k13/rivel-beriel
― StanM, Saturday, 14 December 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/beyonce-cover-500x500.jpg http://waws-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/12/Burial-Rival-Dealer-1.jpg
design twins, nearly. both fond of surprise december releases. they should do an album together.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
I would actually love them to.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
beyrial
― mh, Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
This EP is fucking amazing imo. Got a really nihilistic pissed up feel to it. Post-nightbus.
― ewar woowar (or something), Monday, 16 December 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
― mh, Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:55 PM (Yesterday)
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
blasted this in the car for the first time yesterday evening. title track sounded mindblowing at loud volume. really might be the best thing i've heard all year.
funny how december -- normally a "dead zone" for new music releases -- was among the strongest months for new music in 2013.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link
also
beyrial― mh, Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:55 PM (Yesterday)― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 15, 2013
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 15, 2013
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
Listening to this for the first time now. You really know an artists is a critically overindulged one-trick pony when a change of sound this minor is hailed as a controversial left turn.
― Matt DC, Friday, 20 December 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
Nobody forced you to like him or click on this thread, or did they?
― StanM, Friday, 20 December 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
critically overindulged one-trick pony vs. having a totally focused, identifiable, and hugely influential style
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 20 December 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
damn this is still amazing. the few-second stretch on the title-track, just around the 1:00 mark, where the song's main riff is kinda audible, but slurred and submerged, then jumps to the forefront and locks in, is brilliant.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 2 January 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, didn't realise this was only a thread for positive comments. FWIW I do like Burial, or some of his stuff at least, but he is very indulged and granted a level of reverence that 99% of producers aren't, even when he's being lazy or uninspired or just a bit crap, and the tracks here don't represent anywhere near as much of a curveball as is being claimed in some quarters.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link
you're right. should've thrown every identifiable aspect of his sound out. these tracks, especially the b-side, sound nothing like anything else he's done. i don't see where you are getting that vibe from it. you don't have to like it, but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
― illegalblues, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:17 (ten years ago) link
I've accused Burial of being a one-trick pony in the past, but I felt like the new single was making a big statement even before he came out with his statement about bullying. The sample choices and way they're used are extra evocative on this release. I think he's getting better with time and I'd rather play his last 2 eps than his first album at this point.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link
the tracks here don't represent anywhere near as much of a curveball as is being claimed in some quarters
no, but it's a noticeable change, just like his experimenting with very long pieces, with several movements, was a noticeable change, just like his moving into more propulsive, upbeat tunes (with four-tet) was, at the time, a noticeable change. i don't mind him mining his signature-sound, especially since he is moving it around, albeit incrementally. i actually prefer this to the genre-hopping you see with some artists (including my beloved r.e.m., who developed and discarded several signature-sounds, and kinda hung around other genres for an album or so, with varying success).
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, December 16, 2013 1:21 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
Matt: I totally understand when people say they don't like something and they can explain why they don't like it, but that "critically overindulged one-trick pony" was the thing that I didn't get and I took it as "let's troll the fanboys by insulting them"
― StanM, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/hypertrap
^_^
― mh, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
Pretty clear to me that the latest EP counts as mixing things up...I just don't think it works as well as the previous one, too "obvious" and latter-M83-y. Nothing wrong with trying something new though, I'll still be as keen for the next one.
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
Stan I was eyerolling at FACT magazine etc, not anyone on this thread.
I don't really like it for roughly the same reason as Local Garda, it's his usual sound with the addition of some other really out-of-place elements. The final part of one track just makes me think of Kate Winslet and Leo DiCaprio on the front of the night bus, it's reaching for this really cloying kind of emotional grandeur.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 January 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link
eternal sunshine of the sinking ship?
― mh, Friday, 3 January 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2014/01/16/burial-to-appear-on-james-blakes-first-bbc-1-radio-show-tonight/
― Number None, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
wow. hm. stupid question, but since i actually might be interested in hearing this interview -- anyone know if that channel/program available streaming online? since i'm EST, it will probably air in the dead-of-night.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 16 January 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link
It's on in 15 minutes...http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_one
― Number None, Thursday, 16 January 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link
it was a simple lampoon
― Number None, Friday, 17 January 2014 01:12 (ten years ago) link
i hate james blake now.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link
(unless he's burial).
Missed it, what happened?
― StanM, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link
http://t.co/ZTH45eFmES
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 22:21 (ten years ago) link
"critically overindulged one-trick pony"
I'd only vaguely heard of Burial before hearing it for the first time by accident, around the time of Untrue. But I can attest that if I'd heard all the talking about Burial before hearing the music I'd probably see him as overindulged too.
I've barely kept up with the writing about Burial since those days – am I right in thinking he's become a 'breakout artist' kind of, like how Aphex Twin finds his way into playlists and record collections and conversations that peers of Aphex wouldn't get into?
Don't think one-trick pony works though, too many different things going on across the records. It might all take place in a broken mirror but you get different pictures floating across it.
― cardamon, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 05:09 (ten years ago) link
Don't know why anyone would moan about a musician doing variances on a theme, especially in light of Rival Dealer.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 08:14 (ten years ago) link
Yeah pretty much. He's got some hype in the broadsheets in the UK which has exposed him to middle-aged types who normally wouldn't listen to underground electronic stuff, eg my parents
― paolo, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:43 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Ud20jq9LM
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:14 (ten years ago) link
ahahahahahaha
― nathey, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:19 (ten years ago) link
Beautiful.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:30 (ten years ago) link
http://www.hyperdub.net/burial/burial.jpg
oh hai
― keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link
Aw, he seems quite sweet.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link
Someone tweeted just that link and first couple of lines I thought it would be a dramatic 'I'm retiring' kind of thing
― abcfsk, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
Hopefully by the end of most years I have done some tunes that are decent enough to release. but Dark Souls 2 is on the horizon soon so I'm not sure if I will have many new tunes for a while because I need to play that game a lot.
a++
― adam, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link
So Burial is Kode 9 Four Tet Alexander Nut?
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:10 (ten years ago) link
is there anyone who is seriously still a burial conspiracy dude or is it all joeks
― mh, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link
LOL ed.b
― the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
guess he was at James Blake's Boiler Room set a while backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8idi7PcsbU
― Number None, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:40 (ten years ago) link
pretty sure he's sampled dark souls in the past.
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link
Hope this means he'll be putting out "Feral Witchchild" and all the other BBC mix stuff Hyperdub never bothered to release full versions of.
― Frontier Psychiatrist, Saturday, 1 February 2014 12:56 (ten years ago) link
Rival Dealer has officially sunk in and I know it was touched on briefly upthread, but. . .
. . .did he use this release as one big coming out party?
Can't think of a more glorious, life-affirming way to do it, if so.
― Austin, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 06:45 (ten years ago) link
The previously unreleased 2009 track Lambeth is on the Hyperdub 10.4 compilation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYV-ZuGo9DY
― StanM, Monday, 3 November 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAWIeKAWoo
http://keysoundrecordings.bigcartel.com/product/vinyl-mp3
― Number None, Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
wooo
― StanM, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
Two friends who love Burial have both said this is his worst track. I wonder if he just gave a spare track to a buddy and thats why it's white label only on a different label.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
I like it, it's different again
― StanM, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
Come on! It's banging!
― StanM, Saturday, 24 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
It's really bad
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 24 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
its so bad its
...
good
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
It's quite good
― paolo, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
hot takes all around, team
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
Kate Bush sample on the fade
― Nekomizu don't work (MaresNest), Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2015/10/15/did-burial-just-play-unsound/ ?
― StanM, Thursday, 15 October 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link
So what's happening with him?
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 8 April 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link
popped out for a nandos
― tay.ai fan (seandalai), Friday, 8 April 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link
playing Dark Souls probably
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link
― splates (splates), Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:34 AM (10 years ago)
so are they gonna get him to do the blade runner 2 soundtrack
― j., Saturday, 20 August 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link
HDB100 Young Death/Nightmarket
― StanM, Monday, 28 November 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link
now with link: https://burial.bandcamp.com/
― StanM, Monday, 28 November 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link
awesome
― just another (diamonddave85), Monday, 28 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
Just listened to those; really liked them.
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 05:01 (seven years ago) link
Fucking excellent. Just such wonderful music.
― Austin, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 07:38 (seven years ago) link
From the moment the new single started it was instant chills. His style is so consistently good, warm and enveloping. "Paradise Circus (remix)" is one of the most harrowing songs ever.
― Ross, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD46Rc9Besc
― StanM, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
^entirely unnecessary by both parties
― the article don, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
and already removed too
― StanM, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
what does it sound like
― the late great, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
what was it?
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link
Burial's remix of Goldie's "Inner City Life" (release date April 22)
― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link
I like how Burial dropped one of the best releases of the decade (Rival Dealer EP) before saying PEACE OUT IMMA play Dark Souls... forever apparently.
― yesca, Friday, 21 April 2017 05:22 (six years ago) link
Except that he just released the Young Death/Nightmarket EP last fall?
― Austin, Friday, 21 April 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link
Maybe he's still working on beating Dark Souls. He's this close to reaching the final boss.
― Karl Malone, Friday, 21 April 2017 06:07 (six years ago) link
― yesca, Friday, 21 April 2017 08:10 (six years ago) link
't back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87KPm0Soae8
― On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 21 April 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
what's bad about it?
― niels, Friday, 21 April 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
I'm into it.
Tbf there were multiple Dark Souls games released since then, takes a lot of time!
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 21 April 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link
definitely not what i was expecting!
― the late great, Friday, 21 April 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
couple new tuneshttp://thequietus.com/articles/22452-new-burial
― nxd, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link
Not very interesting ones.
― chap, Friday, 19 May 2017 11:13 (six years ago) link
I don't know, 'Beachfires' is pretty good as an ambient thing.
But yeah, otherwise, these are some of his least captivating things.
― Austin, Friday, 19 May 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/rodent-hdb113
― just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 14 September 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
And, again, it's just okay.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, 14 September 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
i think "beachfires" is really cool, it sounds vaguely like it's telling a story to me, there's just a little more going on in the structure.. but not in an over the top clichedwaaambient way
― brimstead, Friday, 15 September 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link
I think this is good. Somebody commission him to do the dark souls soundtrack
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 15 September 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link
Love this. Nothing revolutionary, but really like how the bouncy bass is restrained.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
It is so good. Best thing he's done since Untrue
― paolo, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link
https://bleep.com/release/90434-burial-pre-dawn-indoors
― StanM, Friday, 6 October 2017 09:34 (six years ago) link
the clips sound pretty banging
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link
rodent fucking rules
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 13 October 2017 06:08 (six years ago) link
I love these twohttps://nonplusrecords.bandcamp.com/album/nonplus-043-pre-dawn-indoors
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I thought those two newest tracks were at least decent. A lot more "beaty" than everything else he's done in the past year.
He's been surprisingly prolific over the last twelve months. To recap, the past year we've heard:
Young DeathNightmarketSubtemple BeachfiresRodentPre DawnIndoors
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
Indoors is a lot more playful than I expected
― mh, Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:08 PM (four weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
This Flame 1 release is amazing. Dubstep's not dead!
― paolo, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
unreleased stuff from recent DJ sets by Four Tet & Charles Webster :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-077U1Uy9kM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCscyeFnnDg
― StanM, Sunday, 13 January 2019 09:06 (five years ago) link
"claustro" has to be his best track since rival dealer
― ufo, Thursday, 30 May 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
so, if you take all of his tracks released under just burial post-rival dealer, you can make a pretty damn good full length. we're talking 2015-present basically.
chronologically, the songs are:
temple sleeperyoung deathnightmarketsubtemplebeach firespre dawnindoorsrodentclaustrostate forest
that he staggered the release of this material over the course of several years i think lessened its collective impact, unfortunately. but if you take this stuff in as the proper full length follow-up to untrue, it's a pretty bold step (forward?).
also totally with ufo on 'claustro' being an absolute jam and one of his best.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
so the reason for this revive is because i've been listening to a playlist of just this tracklist and it's really pretty good. the sequence this way is pretty wild. hooks you up with a dope beat up front with 'temple sleeper' but then uses the hard transitions on 'young death' and 'nightmarket' to go way off into experimental (arguably non-musical) territory until 'predawn' gets back into beatier songs. the transition from 'indoors' into 'rodent' into 'claustro' is very epic and good. 'state forest' as the closer is so satisfying after what preceded it.
burial is good fall music, btw.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:29 (four years ago) link
'Street Halo' through 'Rival Dealer' probably amounts to my favourite album-or-two worth of Burial--equivalent to a 3rd and 4th LP.
The work post'Rival' has felt a little wispy and indistinct--but I'll try queuing it up as a body.
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link
yeah the 2011-2013 releases from Street Halo to Rival Dealer are absolutely his best work (especially Rival Dealer which is absolutely transcendent) and have far surpassed Untrue for me. the Massive Attack remix EP from that period is unfairly overlooked too
his work since has been pretty hit and miss unfortunately. the ambient pieces have been pleasant enough but relatively underwhelming and while i love "claustro", the other more beat-driven tracks he's released over the past few years haven't done much for me.
― ufo, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link
Genuinely love 'Subtemple' as an ambient piece but 'Young Death' is the best thing he's done in this timeframe imo. Not into his rave revival efforts, hope he branches out further.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link
Tried this playlist today, agreed that it works well as an album. Made me laugh when the banging beat started on pre-dawn after roughly half an hour of ambience. If this was an album, Rodent would be the hit single.
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
so, i don't know why i never did this before, but if you take the songs from his 2011-2013 releases and put them in order to form an album, not only is it really long, it's actually a pretty great follow-up to untrue. kind of takes the super pretty aspects of 'ghost hardware' and 'shell of light' and builds on them and lets it simmer until it closes super appropriately with 'come down to us'; and it ends up as a burial "album" that is actually very pleasant and life-affirming. really am starting to think that i agree with ufo in saying that this is his most fertile period. the way i sequenced it is just the running order of the eps as they were chronologically released:
street halonycstolen dogkindredlonerashtray wasptruantrough sleeperrival dealerhiderscome down to us
it hangs together really tightly.
really hoping the 'claustro' / 'state forest' single is a precursor to something bigger and that that is forthcoming soon.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 21 October 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
I think it’s really great that he’s just putting out singles now, his stuff works better for me in twenty - thirty minutes chunksreeeeellly dug “beachfires” from a few years ago
― brimstead, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link
I agree that he’s only gotten better since Untrue
Burial has aged very poorly with me. It's like all the mystery has evaporated, once all the samples have been revealed.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link
I think it’s really great that he’s just putting out singles now, his stuff works better for me in twenty - thirty minutes chunks
cosign
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link
His early work's the best for me, I like it when he keeps it simple. The first album is just about perfect.
― paolo, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
I think I prefer his early stuff because it fit in really nicely with the UK music scene at the time (garage, grime and dubstep) even though he was a bit separate.
― paolo, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
these two periods as records hold really well for me
― nxd, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link
I haven't gone back to the albums in years but I still regularly listen to those 12"s
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link
lol for all the talk of compiling an album out of his 10s material he's just announced a compilation of it
Tunes 2011-2019:CD1:01 State Forest02 Beachfires03 Subtemple04 Young Death05 Nightmarket06 Hiders07 Come Down to Us08 Claustro09 Rival Dealer
CD2:01 Kindred02 Loner03 Ashtray Wasp04 Rough Sleeper05 Truant06 Street Halo07 Stolen Dog08 NYC
missing a few tracks though - "pre dawn", "indoors", "temple sleeper" and "rodent". i guess "pre dawn", "indoors" and "temple sleeper" were't on hyperdub so that's maybe part of it, but "rodent" was. not that i really miss them
― ufo, Friday, 25 October 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link
if u savages vote this into the 10s poll like rifts i will just skip its placement
the rival dealer ep on its own however, now that was always his best work imo and I'd fully support it
― imago, Friday, 25 October 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
i'm entirely behind rival dealer, that's easily a top 5 record of the decade
― ufo, Friday, 25 October 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
to save anyone else the trouble of compiling it
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/55AABlKSVrknAlPDiKD8kF?si=GMNE5MeLQQGZk9-ASiq7bg
― Simon H., Friday, 25 October 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link
i swear i don't have any inside information. i just really like burial ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 25 October 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link
I will buy this comp despite already owning the Truant and Kindred CDs.
Listening to Burial on earbuds while walking in chilly weather = still one of my favorite things to do
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link
almost $30 with shipping and conversion via Hyperdub, hoping I can snag this domestically
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
I've been kind of hoping for a Hyperdub 15 compilation to follow the five and ten year compilations
― mh, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
all the ambient pieces really work together nicely at the start of this comp, i like them a lot more together than on their own
― ufo, Saturday, 26 October 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/listen-to-burials-new-song-old-tape/
― StanM, Friday, 22 November 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
wow i love this
― ufo, Saturday, 23 November 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
That's fantastic. He really gets the balance right between euphoric and melancholy on that one.
― paolo, Sunday, 24 November 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link
ooh yeh this is great, unique style for burial i think
― nxd, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link
Enjoyed the Pitchfork review of Tunes 2011 to 2019. Usually this is the kind of critical hagiography that grates on me but it doesn't here, probably because I agree with all of it.
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link
A new Burial + Four Tet + Thom Yorke collab has surfaced and I’m loving it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdrmRoCMWC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrAMw57ATI
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
oh these are really lovely, some of my favourite music from thom in a long time.
― ufo, Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link
God these are good.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
I love these.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
yeah, these are great. but just like the "ego" / "mirror" thing from several years back, i'm immediately annoyed at the exclusivity of them — WHY??!!?! it's three of the most respected and renowned musicians of the last decade, get it on the fucking radio ffs.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
^^^
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
Her Revolution is so beautiful, I could listen to it go on forever
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 13 December 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link
low fi chill yorkeie beats. yeah i could do with this being an hour
― maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link
it has been on Spotify since Friday
yeah, these are great. but just like the "ego" / "mirror" thing from several years back, i'm immediately annoyed at the exclusivity of them — *WHY*??!!?! it's three of the most respected and renowned musicians of the last decade, get it on the fucking radio ffs.
― obsessed with quality over quantity or the need to produce tracks (breastcrawl), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
Which, in fairness, was a week after the original, allegedly exclusive, release.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 14 December 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link
Blame Four Tet, his schtick-y obsession with doing this exclusive vinyl/record store stuff to be seen as cool and underground wears a touch thin in 2020. Great music tho!
― matt h, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link
rly?https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5QmHnFbgGQepgP9NvmpCOw?si=g3SYaSb8QTyoBHZXyOeYww
― corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/chemz-dolphinz
new single "chemz" with another, "dolphinz", coming in april (or maybe february? it's a little unclear)
― ufo, Monday, 21 December 2020 05:57 (three years ago) link
🔥🔥🔥What a Banger!Sold out already, unfortunately. Hope they'll press more
― willem, Monday, 21 December 2020 06:56 (three years ago) link
I had a dream last night that Burial got made an MBE. True story.
― paolo, Monday, 21 December 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link
xxp it looks like the full digital release comes out in February, one half of the release is available now, and the vinyl is scheduled for April
― mh, Monday, 21 December 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
holy shit, chemz is incredible stuff. i haven't been following burial over the past few years, is this the first time he's gone all-out rave like that?
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 8 January 2021 06:14 (three years ago) link
He's definitely had some rave-ier tracks -- Temple Sleeper, Rival Dealer, etc
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link
"claustro" from 2019 is the closest predecessor to "chemz"
― ufo, Friday, 8 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link
It’s been almost 10 years since I last heard Untrue and my nostalgia got triggered hard. This does for me what Massive Attack’s Mezzanine does. Albums which I was obsessed about the year they came out and I very rarely come back to, but when I’m in the mood for them they outshine every music ever made.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 22 February 2021 05:47 (three years ago) link
https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/shock-power-of-love-ep
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 30 April 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link
(i haven't listened yet)
wish I was feeling this more but like the last several Burial singles I find it a bit disappointing. "Space Cadet" better than "Dark Gesthsemane" though
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 30 April 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link
these are the first Burial tracks I really like again after a long time
― StanM, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
"Dark Gesthsemane" is fantastic!
― Tim F, Saturday, 8 May 2021 05:25 (two years ago) link
agree
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 10:42 (two years ago) link
dark gesthsemane is so good
― nxd, Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
I'm as massive a Burial stan as you will find and I am still not hearing what you all are hearing in these new tracks
Still here for it though, and for whatever's next
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 15 May 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link
Dolphinz > Chemz
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 21 May 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link
Dr. Lilly he say, why choose?
― Noel Emits, Friday, 21 May 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link
I don't know what to expect - different art style, new profile pic, sounds like it could be beatless?
https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/antidawn-ep
― StanM, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link
going to be 30 mins of just layers of vinyl crackle and alley echoes and nothing else
― octobeard, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
I'm in
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
twist is it's actually album length despite being called an EP
― ufo, Thursday, 16 December 2021 07:52 (two years ago) link
Fake(?) leak already out there.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 16 December 2021 08:32 (two years ago) link
yeah after listening i did question if it's real because it's quite a shift even from previous ambient burial. but it's not totally out of character or anything or obviously fake, wouldn't really be surprised either way
― ufo, Thursday, 16 December 2021 08:37 (two years ago) link
someone says it's Asleep Country’s album Next Year’s Snow ?
― StanM, Thursday, 16 December 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link
no idea, I've not seen the leaked thing - https://nextyearssnow.bandcamp.com/album/100
― StanM, Thursday, 16 December 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link
I can't believe it's almost 2022 and people are still making fakes
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 16 December 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link
what I found isn't that Asleep Country thing at least but it's quite atrocious - I hope it's real :D
― StanM, Thursday, 16 December 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
an announcement and physical sales without even putting out a preview single is pretty rare now
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
real thing is entirely ambient burial
― ufo, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 21:00 (two years ago) link
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link
Seems to be up now on Bandcamp
― Soundslike, Thursday, 6 January 2022 15:54 (two years ago) link
Already enjoying this way more than any of the recent singles
yeah I love this already
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 6 January 2022 15:58 (two years ago) link
I like it. I would almost prefer if it didn't have the voices, which are just a little too BURIAL for me, a bit jarring to start with and then become monotonous after a while. Haven't listened to that much Burial in recent years but I'm surprised he's still mining this very specific "foster care advert" aesthetic this far into his career, cos as nice as this is, it could be slices from Untrue but with the drums taken out.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 6 January 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link
definitely a sign of the times that this thread isn't at the of of the new answers page. In my day, a new Burial release was an event!
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 7 January 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link
Ha. New Burial is just a cozy part of the holiday tradition now.
I like it too...obv it's not very 'memorable' in the way that Untrue is, but I like the Burial vocal chops combined with the Burial ambience. And I think there's more going on in the music than seems immediately apparent.
I don't know how much I'll return to it, but I hope I do.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 7 January 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link
I haven't heard anything since "Untrue," what have I missed?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 January 2022 19:49 (two years ago) link
Mostly collected here, the first half are the ambient ones, I prefer the bangers like Claustro and Street Halo, and still like Come Down to Us for long-form emo ambient Burial:
https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/tunes-2011-to-2019
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 7 January 2022 20:02 (two years ago) link
his peak was the run of Kindred, Truant/Rough Sleeper and Rival Dealer in 2012-13, with Rival Dealer being his absolute best, check out those first
― ufo, Friday, 7 January 2022 23:25 (two years ago) link
co-sign that, ufo.
(although i did really like 'claustro' and consider it among that lot of "his absolute best")
― please don't refer to me as (Austin), Saturday, 8 January 2022 00:05 (two years ago) link
Every time I listen to this guy I press play, promptly forget about it, and realize I’m still listening 15 minutes later
― calstars, Saturday, 8 January 2022 00:56 (two years ago) link
Really enjoyed this new one. Ran it several times through. As calstars said - you try to listen actively and it takes you away so quickly.
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Sunday, 9 January 2022 00:00 (two years ago) link
there's some really harsh, unpleasant frequencies on this, and it doesn't do enough otherwise
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 18:02 (two years ago) link
digital release of 2 Burial-Four Tet collaboration tracks (Nova from 2012, Moth from 2009 - originally vinyl only)
https://fourtet.bandcamp.com/album/nova-moth
― StanM, Monday, 14 February 2022 14:19 (two years ago) link
okay, that's fun.
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link
(new to me)
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link
I've warmed up a bit to "Chemz" and "Dolphins," but I will go to my grave not understanding why Antidawn was not hailed as a major statement upon release. Even here, there didn't seem to be much enthusiasm for a record that is to me a really fascinating pivot from one of the most innovative artists of the past twenty years. Maybe everyone was secretly hoping for a return to form, ie just repeating Untrue but less good?
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link
Antidawn is what my niece and nephew call my wife, but hey
― Mark G, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link
untrue isn't even his peak though, kindred through to rival dealer is much much better
i don't think antidawn was that much of a pivot though, he'd been putting out similar ambient stuff occasionally for a while, going back to "subtemple" and "young death"/"nightmarket"
― ufo, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link
That's true, but committing himself so completely to that vibe was rather unexpected, no? And I actually agree about Untrue, I just assume that's the consensus pick. The early singles will always be my favorite Burial shit, along with the self titled LP
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 12 August 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link
from 2016 onwards his output has been kinda all over the place so going further with a style he'd already spent a while exploring wasn't really a big surprise, him putting out something album length was though
― ufo, Friday, 12 August 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link
Been hammering Rival Dealer recently - never not sent into a different world when the "saw myself crying" bit rolls in on "Come Down to Us"
― bain4z, Friday, 12 August 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link
i still think about dog latin's "foster care advert" remark and i lol. but i love that shit
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 12 August 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link
The early singles will always be my favorite Burial shit, along with the self titled LP
I agree! I'm not sure why most people go for Untrue over the debut but there you go
― paolo, Sunday, 14 August 2022 09:51 (one year ago) link
Antidawn was a bit of a let down for me I gotta say. Committing himself to that vibe over an album length release was a bit of a surprise but it's not like it came completely from nowhere, as has already been pointed out.
― paolo, Sunday, 14 August 2022 09:53 (one year ago) link
New EP out of nowhere, more like his older work:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPvtn81LHgg
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 October 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link
as if today wasn't stacked enough lol
― ufo, Thursday, 20 October 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link
omg
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 20 October 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link
The first track, “Hospital Chapel” (the title itself is almost too painfully evocative if you’ve ever lost a loved one in a hospital), is a slow ambient track that I can see people not connecting to - it takes a long time to get going - but it is great
― Dan S, Friday, 21 October 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link
i don't think this is "more like his older work", it's more ambient stuff
― ufo, Friday, 21 October 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link
high-frequency chimes, ominous low-end synths and percussion, vinyl crackles, cuts and buzzes, beatific vocal samples, ghostly sound effects, and a mournful dream state
― Dan S, Friday, 21 October 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 21 October 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link
great ambient stuff.
― StanM, Friday, 21 October 2022 05:17 (one year ago) link
yeah this is great, he's really perfected that form
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 21 October 2022 06:25 (one year ago) link
I like this a lot more than Antidawn.
― StanM, Friday, 21 October 2022 07:24 (one year ago) link
snap crackle pop
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 21 October 2022 11:28 (one year ago) link
Sucks that the vinyl isn't available till late January but I'm pre-ordering anyway
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 21 October 2022 12:32 (one year ago) link
Ambient medley Burial is nice and all but bring back beat-based Burial, let's be real.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 21 October 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link
https://burial.bandcamp.com/track/unknown-summer
― StanM, Friday, 21 July 2023 04:43 (eight months ago) link
Lovely as always. The Kode 9 song is a belter too.
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Sunday, 23 July 2023 02:22 (eight months ago) link
pic.twitter.com/bA6LVFCRMd— XL RECORDINGS (@XLRECORDINGS) January 1, 2024
― ufo, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 02:23 (three months ago) link
https://questionmarqdj.bandcamp.com/track/distant-lights-quest-onmarq-bootleg-burial
I really enjoy quest?onmarq's bootleg remixes of the classic material, I just wish this was longer and faster to fit in with my current mix.
― pattern loader, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 10:20 (three months ago) link
the last three minutes of "Boy Sent From Above"..... jfc
― Murgatroid, Saturday, 20 January 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link
"boy sent from above" is the best thing he's done in a decade
― ufo, Saturday, 20 January 2024 22:30 (two months ago) link
co-sign. very good.
(other side is not bad)
elsewhere: great way to tease new music in the streaming era. all those unauthorized fan uploads on youtube had to have been expected by xl; subvert everything.
― she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Sunday, 21 January 2024 00:09 (two months ago) link
revisiting his past year or so of tunes because of this and i have to say how much i've come to like 'unknown summer.' it's such a subtle slow burning joy of a track+ufo i have to challenge your assertion that it doesn't at least compete with 'boy sent from above' in that category.
(let us also not forget the thom yorke collabs, but i digress; 'boy sent from above' a very significant tune)
further, the few stray non-hyperdub tracks from the past few years -'temple sleeper', 'pre dawn'+'indoors'- are all pretty neat in retrospect of this new material for xl.
hi. my name is austin+i ♡ burial.
― she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Sunday, 21 January 2024 00:49 (two months ago) link
Definitely my favorite Burial in a while, and I say that as a staunch fan and apologist for ambient Burial and the very underrated Antidawn EP. I liked Chemz / Dolphinz and Streetlands, too, though not as much.
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 21 January 2024 01:35 (two months ago) link
what happened here? did he have a good day or something?
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 22 January 2024 22:42 (two months ago) link
love it obvs. thanks B for the new display name
― default damager (lukas), Monday, 22 January 2024 22:43 (two months ago) link
I mean he has the perfect career, doesn't have to tour or do interviews, still makes a lot of money from records (and syncs), everyone respects him, I sure hope he's happy now.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 22 January 2024 22:46 (two months ago) link
relistening to the new tunes again and guys this question comes from a place of pure respect-
anyway, does burial make musical fan fiction?
― she fell asleep with her hand around my throat (Austin), Wednesday, 24 January 2024 01:57 (two months ago) link
you guys like the other side but i really dig this dreamfear!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wooh1L8c-Q
― scott seward, Saturday, 10 February 2024 18:31 (two months ago) link
so cool.
South London Burroughs getting another reissue, at last. The fact that it's a "20th anniversary" release makes me feel ancient.
https://burial.bandcamp.com/album/south-london-boroughs
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 12:32 (two weeks ago) link
err, "Boroughs"
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 12:33 (two weeks ago) link
Is he doing a performance in London, did I read that?
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:37 (two weeks ago) link
Spotify told me that was the case but think it's the metal band with the same name
― nxd, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:56 (two weeks ago) link
Could be some good crossover fans though
Reminds me of the time my mate accidentally saw the play Titus Andronicus
― nxd, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 13:57 (two weeks ago) link
actual lol at your friend, thank you for that
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 14:09 (two weeks ago) link