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The BBC plans to mark the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ this Easter with an hour-long live procession through the streets of Manchester featuring pop stars from The Stone Roses and Happy Mondays and featuring songs by The Smiths and New Order.

In the programme, called Manchester Passion, a character representing Jesus will sing the legendary Joy Division anthem Love Will Tear Us Apart before dueting his arch-betrayer Judas on the New Order hit Blue Monday, according to senior church sources involved in the production.

Mary Magdelene, the penitent whore of the New Testament, is also getting in on the act: she is being lined up to sing the Buzzcocks hit Ever Fallen in Love (with Someone You Shouldn't have) accompanied by a string band.

Former Happy Monday and Celebrity Big Brother winner Bez will play a disciple.

The climax of the event sees Jesus sing the Smiths classic song Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now as he is being flayed by Roman soldiers. He will then come face-to-face with his Roman prosecutor Pontius Pilate with the two of them singing a duet of the Oasis hit Wonderwall and its chorus:

"I said maybe
You're gonna be the one who saves me?
And after all
You're my wonderwall."

The broadcaster, which plans to show the event live on BBC3 on Good Friday, insisted the event was inspired by "the way Bach and other composers fused music and the Passion story".

The "contemporary retelling" of Jesus' last hours will begin with the messiah - who is yet to be cast - singing the Robbie Williams hit Angels, which will mark his procession into Jerusalem.

In this case, Jerusalem will be represented by Manchester's gay and red light area near Canal Street and the Passion scene will pass via Chinatown and St Peter's Square to culminate in Albert Square.

The march will be followed by members of the public who will be encouraged to join in the singing of relevant anthems, which include the M People hit Search for a Hero Inside Yourself.

The crowd will carry a large white cross and the public will also be asked to bring a symbol of their own burden - "something they are personally concerned about" - according to senior church sources involved in the programme.

The crowd will be joined by Bez - the entertainer famous for shaking his maracas on stage with the Happy Mondays. He will be accompanied by former Stone Roses frontman Ian Brown and Black Grape saxophonist Martin Slattery.

The event will end with the resurrected Jesus singing an as yet undisclosed song from the top of Manchester's town hall.

The show is being made by the corporation's classical music television department, which has won plaudits for its experimental music and drama work overseen by its head, Pater Maniura.

These include Flashmob: the Opera - a live opera event staged among commuters at Paddington station in London in which members of the public performed a song inspired by the Orpheus legend - and the forthcoming Riot at the Rite, a dramatisation of the notorious first performance of Stravinsky's ballet the Rites of Spring, to be aired in March.

While the event is likely to raise eyebrows among more traditional-minded Christians, it has the broad support of both the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church in the area.

Church of England spokeswoman Gillian Oliver said: "We are working with the BBC on this and are very pleased to be taking the good news of the gospel onto the streets of Manchester. If anything, something like this can translate the old story into new terms."

Canon Robin Gamble, canon evangelist at Manchester Cathedral, has been tasked with encouraging churchgoers to attend the event.

"I wouldn't know a Buzzcock from a ballcock so I couldn't really comment on the music. All I can say is that they are not doing a Christian service, it is a piece of contemporary theatre and that is going to get people to think about the story in modern terms," he said.

"It is going to come from the streets, with the sounds of traffic and people bustling around and it will make people think about this story in a new way. It is going to be challenging and shocking and is going to get things rumbling - it's going to be brilliant."

A BBC spokeswoman declined to comment on the details of the line-up but promised that the event would be "exciting".

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)

there was a time when i would have found that amazing but now it's just sort of stupid.

lf (lfam), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

can that even be serious?

bb (bbrz), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:35 (twenty years ago)

I am half on the 'hmm, hoax' tip and half on the 'it figures' side.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:36 (twenty years ago)

either way LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sovietpanda (sovietpanda), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Thank FUCK the Arctic Monkeys are not from Manchester is all I can say (no offence Mancunians).

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

I am disturbed by this but will probably turn out to watch it.

Zora (Zora), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Manchester England, England... Across the Atlantic sea... And I'm a genius genius... I believe that God believes in Claude, that's me!

js (honestengine), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I am disturbed by this but will probably turn out to watch it.

GIF

Dan (Please) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

If this isn't a big hoax then I apologise to everyone in the world of behalf of the city I live in.

This whole thing isn't that surprising though. Manchester's Old Guard are little more than jokes, morons and tribute acts anyway. It takes something like this to wash all the scum away, etc etc.

Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)

GIF? Graphical interchange format? You've lost me, sirrah.

Zora (Zora), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Someone on the Internet posts "GIF" = Shorthand for saying
"Take pictures of what you were just talking about and post them plz".

Dan (GIF) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:39 (twenty years ago)

I am such a n00b.

I will take ye several pictures when the time comes.

Zora (Zora), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (twenty years ago)

who the fuck in their right minds ever even thought of this, let alone agreed to be in it????

making some spurious justification via bach completely sums up the head-up-arseness of this city.

whatever (boglogger), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:19 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't know a Buzzcock from a ballcock either. WTF is a ballcock ? Is it like "poppycock" ? And why did April Fools move to January 26th also

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

boring answer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_cock

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)

The event will end with the resurrected Jesus singing an as yet undisclosed song from the top of Manchester's town hall.

Could this possibly be that Stone Roses one that goes on for a bit and kicks off at the end? I'm just stabbing in the dark here...

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)

Could this possibly be that Stone Roses one that goes on for a bit and kicks off at the end? I'm just stabbing in the dark here...

roffle
it's like something a fourth-year drama class would come up with, no? I expect ILM could write something better in its lunch hour.

But I'll still turn out to watch it.

Zora (Zora), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:08 (twenty years ago)

uuuuuuuurgh

xpost

Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:08 (twenty years ago)

So cocksomething relates to toilet flushing ? this is only getting worse.

look, I'm totally being disingenuous but still, it wouldn't hurt of journalists found ways to essentially say "this is actually not a joke" within such articles. How very fucking clever of them to play neutral all of a sudden when the whole thing clearly reads like an stupid prank to everyone or at least raises a few legitimate questions. But no, aren't we all smart and professional all of a sudden.

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:10 (twenty years ago)

Nothing from The Fall? Maybe they'll let Smith be Jesus.
Who else are they missing? James? Magazine? New Fast Automatic Daffodils?

js (honestengine), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

808 State

Zora (Zora), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

the whole ceremony should just be soundtracked by 808 State's 'Lambrusco Cowboy' on a loop. then MC Tunes can do a live freestyle on top.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:59 (twenty years ago)

Very surprised that the hasbeen who singlehandedly managed to hold the Manchester music scene back for years upon years, good old Clint "..and here's another one from my best mates The Farm.." Boon, isn't involved in this.

All the other Manc bores who take their music and themselves and their beards very seriously indeed: Andy Votel, Mr Scruff, Elbow, The Doves, New Order, Oasis, et al, mustn't be as hard-up as Bez, Brown & co.

But really, this is a joke isn't it? Isn't it?

Affectian (Affectian), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

My favorite part will be when Jesus turns to his disciples and says "There are twelve people in the world; the rest are paste."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:08 (twenty years ago)

i'm hoping this is all some elaborate bill drummond prank...

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:40 (twenty years ago)

and surely they should get the gallaghers for judas and jesus.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

The Guardian, the Church of England, the BBC, quotes and the googleable people who say them... That's a pretty elaborate joke to be watsing people's precious time on.

Or that web page is a perfect hack and will be taken down shortly. Who can you trust since the advent of you know, photography and stuff.

blunt (blunt), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:49 (twenty years ago)

Jesus sings Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:09 (twenty years ago)

In this case, Jerusalem will be represented by Manchester's gay and red light area
right, and James Blunt will play Jesus Christ

blunt (blunt), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:27 (twenty years ago)

From the Telegraph:

The BBC is recruiting pop performers from groups such as the Stone Roses and Happy Mondays to play Jesus, the disciples, the Virgin Mary and Pontius Pilate.

Bez, a former tamborine-bashing member of the Happy Mondays and a winner of Celebrity Big Brother, is expected to be one of the disciples, but the BBC said that it was too early to announce other names.

The drama, called the Manchester Passion, will begin with the performers playing Jesus and the disciples, dressed in contemporary clothes, at the Last Supper, sitting on a wall in a Manchester street.

Much of the action is expected to take place near Manchester's gay and red light area close to Canal Street as the group "process" towards Albert Square in the city centre.

During the Last Supper, the character playing Jesus will sing Joy Division's Love Will Tear Us Apart.

Meanwhile, the Judas figure, knowing he is about to betray Jesus, sings the downbeat anthem by The Smiths, Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now.

In the Garden of Gesthemene, which will take place in a Manchester park, Jesus sings Sit Down by James as he prays alone, and then duets with Judas - Blue Monday by New Order - as he is arrested by performers dressed as police officers.

As the group converges on Albert Square in the centre of the city, a separate crowd of people carrying a 25ft-long, white cross will arrive from the other side of the city.

The trial of Jesus by Pontius Pilate will be accompanied by the singing of Wonderwall by Oasis, the chorus of which goes:
"I said maybe
You're gonna be the one who saves me?
And after all
You're my wonderwall."

The Virgin Mary will express her emotions at the foot of the cross in the song Search For the Hero by M People, which featured in a recent car advertisement.

At the climax of the programme, the resurrected Christ will appear on the roof of Manchester town hall and, if the draft script is followed, will belt out a reprise of Wonderwall.

davidsim (davidsim), Friday, 27 January 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

This sounds great. But I am kind of drunk.

Freud Junior, a man of science and soft focus (Freud Junior), Friday, 27 January 2006 04:52 (twenty years ago)

gotta love the "which featured in a recent car advertisement"

blunt (blunt), Friday, 27 January 2006 05:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070239

blunt (blunt), Friday, 27 January 2006 05:52 (twenty years ago)

also gotta love the "draft script" stage direction for jesus to "belt out" the final song.

belter.

whatever (boglogger), Friday, 27 January 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Have any of you even seen an actual Passion play? Believe me, this will better...or at least funnier.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Friday, 27 January 2006 09:39 (twenty years ago)

The only way they could possibly save this is if they got in Hermann Nitsch to direct it.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 27 January 2006 10:03 (twenty years ago)

this is the funniest thing I've heard in ages.

patita (patita), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

this is the funniest thing I've heard in ages! Imagine if they tried to pull this off stateside.

patita (patita), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Duuuuuuude. WTF? What were these guys smokin'? I'm not surprised that Mark E. Smith ain't involved - I bet he'd sooner gnaw off his left leg than be in this kind of tawdry showbiz rot. Y'know what would have been properly *****in', though? If, at some point, 'Jesus' sang Magazine's "Shot By Both Sides".

GLC, Saturday, 28 January 2006 06:34 (twenty years ago)

I think the M People bit promises to be the most surreal and thus in an important sense GREATEST moment of my life. I feel like the world wants me to go.

Ogmor Roundtrouser (Ogmor Roundtrouser), Saturday, 28 January 2006 10:49 (twenty years ago)

I am faintly appalled by this but I will be buying a Freeview box purely to watch it because Hallelujah promises to be the most surreal thing ever.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 28 January 2006 11:54 (twenty years ago)

I am wondering if it will finally destroy rock and roll.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 January 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)

shouldn't jesus sing 'i am the resurrection' instead of wonderwall?

keyth (keyth), Saturday, 28 January 2006 23:32 (twenty years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101948/

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)

Will Jesus Jones and Jesus & Mary Chain perform?

And, yes, Depeche Mode performing "Personal Jesus".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:19 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Get ready.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Tim Booth, you ridiculous man:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/imagedump/13248.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Not that Denise Johnson is much better.

"What a shame Rufus Wainwright and Jeff Buckley weren't from Manchester because we could have used a few of their songs!"

I mean, what can you say. Except DIE DIE DIE.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

I wish Booth had always looked like that.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Given the huge list of reasons I've already got to hate Tim Booth, it doesn't seem worth writing another one down. Thought I cannot resist the urge to write "My Little Pony".

Dogfight Giggle (noodle vague), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 22:47 (twenty years ago)

Pontius Pilate loved repetition.

Brian Good, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Alls I ask is for the Beeb to show Greatest Story Ever Told once a year. Not Tim Twatting Booth as Begbie.

Dogfight Giggle (noodle vague), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Booth look pretty much like that in the Batman movie? Maybe it's just his general style these days.

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 04:08 (twenty years ago)

some good soul will record this and share the glory with those of us who are bereft?

patita (patita), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:08 (twenty years ago)

xpost

Me no watch Batman. I wouldn't be in the least surprised that this is his general style. Perhaps he's never heard of Fester Shinetop.

Dogfight Giggle (noodle vague), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:26 (twenty years ago)

bump. tonight. 9 on bbc3, 11 on bbc2. bbc3 showing is live. i'll be surprised if there aren't christian demonstrators heckling. 'down with this sort of thing', etc.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Careful now.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

I caught the last 10 minutes, which included Jesus and Judas doing a duet of Blue Monday and Simon Peter singing a bit of I Am The Resurrection while Jesus was getting banged up in the police van and Keith Allen as pilate duetting Wonderwall with Jesus (condemned in favour of Kash the gay shopkeeper from Shameless as Barrabas!)

WTF moment at the end credits:
... as Jesus
... as Judas
etc
then...
Tony Wilson as Himself!

Now I know he's a man of myth and legend but I'm pretty fucking sure he didn't make it into John's Gospel!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)

i watched "green wing" and taped this. i got a text from a trusted and dear friend saying it was great, and was i watching it? hmm.

i'll watch it another time, i think. i'm really not in the mood for tim cunting booth tonight.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:00 (twenty years ago)

This is kind of compellingly hilariously awful. That woman playing Mary/singing Casts No Shadow looked unbelievably bored.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:15 (twenty years ago)

I saw about as much of this as Onimo, but I have to say my real WTFUCKINGF moment was when the "story of the Passion, told by the music of Manchester" ended with a big sing-along to a song performed by a Fat Dancer from Stoke-On-Trent.

Looking at the MPV-driving cunts all singing along, worrying about whether the baby-sitter was coping with little Jocinda while trying to pretend this was as good as when they actually did see Robbie, made we want to kick my telly in. (Obviously, not being FUCKING STUPID I just changed the channel instead.)

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm watching this on BBC2 now, from behind the sofa. Some woman is discussing the relevance of Jesus to Muslims with a random punter in the street, soundtracked by 808 State.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Stevem will no doubt be pleased to know that house music is not being left out in the cold. The cross procession is being accompanied by a funereal version of Pacific State!

That was quite the worst rendition of Love Will Tear Us Apart I have ever heard. Not as bad as Tim Booth's horrendous falsetto in Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (sung by ALKIE JUDAS!)

Are we going to get any Take That?

Dude walking along the procession "I think the cross has been dumbed down a bit..." LIKE NO SHIT!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Someone is singing Sit Down and it isn't Tim Booth/Judas.

Is Keith Allen a Manc?

David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:27 (twenty years ago)

No. But he is mank.

Dogfight Giggle (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)

this is awesoem!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)

who's this singing the Stone Roses I am The Resurrection against the riot police? It's funny.

Madchester vibes in da AREAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)

That's Dr Trueman from EastEnders! This is the greatest thing in the history of anything ever (or it was, until Angels turned up)

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:38 (twenty years ago)

The dude singing I Am The Resurrection (aka hamfisted shoehorning of three denials into whatever Manchester song best seemed to fit) is Dr Trueman from Eastenders!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:38 (twenty years ago)

"So you're a Christian and a punk. How does that work then?"

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Did that Christian punk dude really just say "Jesus would be right in the centre of the moshpit checking out the bands"?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Of course he did!

David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Yes! WTFs all round

robster (robster), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

"And in a very real sense, Jesus is like that. A cunt, that is."

Ich Haben Gepuken Like Ein Mutterfucken (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

and he never helped you with a thing that you did
or you dunt

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:46 (twenty years ago)

How on earth did Keith Allan manage to forget the words to Wonderwall?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

For a second I thought 'Jesus' was Thom Yorke when he appeared on stage. In his fashionable Guantanomo jumpsuit.

David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

This was a load of shite, if you ask me.

yer mam! (yer mam!), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

I COULDN'T BRING MYSELF TO HATE CHOO AS I WOULD... LIIII-IIIKE.

David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

If all those Christians who picketed Jerry Springer: the Opera were serious they'd have launched a nuclear strike against this shit.

Ich Haben Gepuken Like Ein Mutterfucken (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)

Having Jesus singing "I hope that God exists" - he's yer fucking dad, mate, if you don't know, then what chance do the rest of us have?

Top roffletastic telly, though. Especially Dougal the Scottish Christian punk.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Disappointment #1 - No Bez
Disappointment #2 - No Mary Magdalene singing the Buzzcocks
Disappointment #3 - Jesus not actually being flayed alive while singing Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:09 (twenty years ago)

"Judaaaas!"

PB, Friday, 14 April 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)

If all those Christians who picketed Jerry Springer: the Opera were serious they'd have launched a nuclear strike against this shit.
-- Ich Haben Gepuken Like Ein Mutterfucken (noodle_vagu...), April 14th, 2006.

On the fucking money, my son!

yer mam! (yer mam!), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Tim Booth's falsetto on Heaven Knows is Top Five Embarrassing Moments In The History Of Television material.

Venga (Venga), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)

D'ya think if I pretended to be religious I could score a licence-fee rebate off this?

Ich Haben Gepuken Like Ein Mutterfucken (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Definitely. It's a hate crime waiting to happen.

yer mam! (yer mam!), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

What I'd like to know, now I can see again after the tears of laughter have dried up a little, is how many people are now actually really going "Hey, what do you know, them christians really are hip and happening, I guess I'll have to check 'em out now!"

StanM (StanM), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)

How many people = 3

Mingus Realty (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:37 (twenty years ago)

Jesus sayeth unto you: "Top one, nice one, get sorted!"

David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

As far as I know Jesus never wanked on and on at interminable length about how great Galilee is, therefore Jesus wins.

Mingus Realty (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)

TONY WILSON AS HIMSELF IN THE STORY OF JESUS' PASSION!

Someone please explain Tony's "when the legend is better than the 2000 year old legend print the legend" part in all of this.

Keith should've sang VINDALOO at the end all over the top of Angels (oh, and what do you mean you're "loving angels instead" Jesus just FUCKING DIED FOR YOU FOOKIN CUNTS)

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:41 (twenty years ago)

Robbie Twatting Williams is from Port Vale.

Mingus Realty (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

I've got this image of Keith Allen running around the stage going NANANA NANANA NANANA NANANA NANA AND WE ALL LOVE JESUS CHRIST!

omg

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

with that tarty bird with the huge knockers as Magdelene.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.robbscelebs.co.uk/noops500/cleo_rocos0015.jpg

This one?

Mingus Realty (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:46 (twenty years ago)

I meant the one from the Vindaloo video but she'll do.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah. Is that Jo Guest in the "Vindaloo" video?

Common as dog muck.

Mingus Realty (noodle vague), Friday, 14 April 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

I could only last 20min.

Worst bit: the shot of Keith Allen signalling the crowd in Albert Square to Sit Down, followed by a pleading arms-outstretched gesture when it didn't look like they were going to bother. Oh, man, how far from Gino: Full Story and Pics.

Best bit: the roar of amused recognition from the crowd at Tony Wilson, standing next to a burger van.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 15 April 2006 10:08 (twenty years ago)

Why did we get "Search For The Hero Inside Yourself" twice in quick succession, and no "Back For Good" as semi-advertised?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Saturday, 15 April 2006 13:08 (twenty years ago)

This all sounds very roffly indeed. Any pics?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 April 2006 13:20 (twenty years ago)

No, but here are some conceptual sketches I've made for a Los Angeles Passion:

http://www.agencyfaqs.com/news/grfx/2005/ford.jpg

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 15 April 2006 13:58 (twenty years ago)

A Cologne Passion:

http://www.dankind.com/misc/robots.jpg

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 15 April 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

MOTHERFUCKER. Another Cologne Passion sketch:

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/p/2005/524swarmbots500x375.jpg

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 15 April 2006 14:03 (twenty years ago)

And a Providence, RI Passion:

http://www.jonathanvangieson.com/archives/buddyandaikentogetheragain.jpg

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 15 April 2006 14:05 (twenty years ago)

> Best bit: the roar of amused recognition from the crowd at Tony Wilson, standing next to a burger van.

was going to ask where tony wilson was - he got a credit but i didn't recognise him. btw, burger van bloke was reading Da Vinci Code 8)

oh, and 'liam' and 'noel' in the back of the black maria.

interesting from a logistical point of view too, just the way they managed it, three separate parts had to come together, whole of manchester city centre involved. seemed to work. although they didn't seem to realise that people sitting down take up more space than people standing up and so sitting down during 'sit down' wasn't really an option. the keith allen narrator turned pontius was a nice twist.

musical best bits: heaven knows done acoustically (singing terrible though), ever fallen in love done by orchestra. sally army band played something as well.

koogs (koogs), Saturday, 15 April 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

why is this not on ukn0v4 yet???? why???

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 15 April 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

The most toe-curlingly awful thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

Affectian (Affectian), Saturday, 15 April 2006 16:05 (twenty years ago)

If this was meant to reference the kind of entertainment the Apostoplayaz Crew organised in Nazareth 2000 years ago it's no wonder their MC got nailed to a cross.

StanM (StanM), Saturday, 15 April 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

The "best" bits:

"Yes, the 8-metre long cross is getting closer. It's just coming across Portland Street now, which is one of the busiest roads in Manchester - it weighs half a ton."

"The cross has become, maybe like you say, a fashion accessory, whereas actually at the time it was an instrument of torture. And I don't think, maybe, if Jesus was sent to earth now, in 2000 years' time, we'd be wearing electric chairs. I don't know."

Jesus's now-you-hear-it-now-you-don't Manc accent: "Loov, loov will tare ooz apart agenn"

Tim Booth's falsetto. Sit down, you twat.

Keith Allen begging the crowd to sit down. And them ignoring him.

Jesus: "I tell you Peter, by dawn you will have denied three times that you ever knew me"
Random woman: "You were with him. You were one of his followers."
Peter: "I dunno what you're talking about."

Dr Anthony-pick-a-key-any-key-off-Eastenders' singing.

Liam in the back of the police van.

"With me is Douglas, who's come all the way down from Scotland for this. I have to say that you stand out from the crowd, not only because of your height, but because you've got piercings and you're a punk. But you're a Christian, too - how does that work?"

"I believe that you're a Nigerian pastor?"
"It's amazing what the cross means to so many people. Jesus died on the cross for us."
"Super!"

The blonde woman and her bald friend in the crowd during the interminable "Sunshine After The Rain", chatting away, and then one of their friends presumably spots them on telly and a mobile phone is clearly heard with that annoying Nokia ringtone. I expect to see Dom Joly with a huge mobile: "Hello? No, I'm at a crucifixion. No, it's rubbish!"

Actually, I've just watched that bit again, and couldn't hear the mobile, so maybe it wasn't at that point, but I'm certainly not watching it all again to pin it down.

Keith Allen: "Is that the cue for me?"

Jesus's fleshtoned microphone that made it look like he had a huge boil on his neck.

The only really good bit: where Jesus reappears at the top of the clock tower and sings "I Am The Resurrection". Spoiled, of course, by the group singalong to "Angels".

davidsim (davidsim), Sunday, 16 April 2006 12:35 (twenty years ago)

would like to see the 'Pacific State' bit but nothing else.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 16 April 2006 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh please, someone has to youtube this

snowballing (snowballing), Sunday, 16 April 2006 12:49 (twenty years ago)

Some clips are up at YouTube.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 17 April 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, Konal! Didn't know what it would be called.

Wow. I guess I missed a WTF moment. Presumably ignored by the inkies.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 09:18 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...
Hey, guess what, it's on BBC3 again tonight!

I totally forgot this was only a year ago. My mind had sort of wiped it out, which I think only right.

ailsa, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

But now you've brought it all back...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's an important reminder of all that is good and right and proper about Christianity and the music of Manchester...nah, bollocks to that, it was shite. Unintentionally hilarious, but shite.

ailsa, Friday, 6 April 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

the music of Manchester...nah, bollocks to that, it was shite. Unintentionally hilarious, but shite.

― ailsa, Friday, 6 April 2007 17:46 (3 years ago)

ailsa otm

the fall are exculpated by the 'salford defence'

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

i see what you did there

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

joy division too kinda, since curtis was from cheshire

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

i do not hate every musician from the Manchester region but god caring about the "mystique" of the place was played by 1988 and now is kinda worse than aging scousers riding for Merseybeat

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

As of 2010 the band began touring again, and are said to be writing new material.

Have a guess at which legendary band's wiki entry this is on. Go on, have a guess.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

tbf I don't know too many Manchester residents who care deeply about the Manc mystique (in the Madchester or Smiths sense, anyway). xp

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

n e wayz agree with nv, not rly into parsing the identities of every lancs musician who was not waste, sufficeth to say there is a p fucking clear and terrible tradition 20+ yr old of terrible music from manc & environs, the leery coked up lad shit & the miserablist 'sensitive bloke' shit being most common strains, each nestling in the meconium of the other

new order/acid house etc is divested of every interesting facet except the uncomtemplative hedonism, every weird energy of the fall is reduced to the cipher of the angry caterwauling drunk, every plaintive moment in joy division/durutti/etc reduced to miserabilist whimsy

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

this is nothing new obv but it needs to be stated clearly that music from manchester ought to be treated with the same suspicion as human rights initiatives from the ccp

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

As of 2010 the band began touring again, and are said to be writing new material.

Have a guess at which legendary band's wiki entry this is on. Go on, have a guess.

― fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:19 (5 minutes ago)

guessing northern uproar

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:26 (fifteen years ago)

know via my brother in law of certain aging Madchester faces who are still living the dream and hawking their shite round young impressionable musicians, won't name names as i don't want to inspire complaints

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

northern uproar dece guess but y'need to go a little further back and a little even funnier

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

shed seven?
Northside?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

Chicken Rhythms is the only full length studio album by English band Northside. It was released in 1991 and was produced by Ian Broudie.

Chicken Rhythms & Extras

A separate release, containing all the original tracks plus some bonus tracks was also released.

1. Take 5
2. Weight of Air
3. Funky Munky
4. A Change is on its Way
5. Yeah Man
6. Tour de World

northside ya...never heard of these cunts but a pox on them anyway

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

fucking hell it is Northside!! LOLOL

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

Shed Seven were from York iirc.

but get ready for the second coming of

NORTHSIDE!!!

stoked

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

Ian Broudie is fucking bollox personified, is he a Manc?

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

Scouse?

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

oh god yeah

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

tried to think if any of these retards took a single thing from the smiths, best i could come up with was the jangly guitar sound

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

even back then if you mentioned Northside everyone sniggered but if anyone says now "Northside weren't that bad" either nostalgia is an evil that we need to get rid of or modern brit indie is so bad that it makes Northside look not bad.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Marr's guitar playing, which was v. innovative and rightly recognised as such, has been one of the greatest forces for evil in British music of the last 20 years. Including in the hands of J. Marr post-Smiths.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

I met the bassist from Intastella in a pub recently. Quite a sad experience.

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

On the plus side, I can't see them reforming any time soon.

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

thought about liverpool and whether to do a general 'come friendly bombs and rain on every lancs settlement large enough to contain a branch of superdrug'

liverpool seems superficially different, but really it's narc of sd in the extreme....it's a bit more fey, psych, 'zany' rather than 'quirky'....but since they'd probably hate to be lumped in with the manchester fucks, i'd say it's pretty important we conflate them itt

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

Saw P4ul Ryd3r in Dry one time not long after the Mondays split, that was a pretty sad experience.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

obv my definitive take on Liverpool musicians is already another thread but gosh darn it for a mad and exciting city its mad and exciting bands sure are fucking boring. and Julian Cope's from Tamworth

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

why no anti-london thread?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

beneath contempt, not really a place

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

but tbf a lot less indie-boreathon than the NW and environs

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

how about west midlands towns that aren't as good as Birmingham?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

Was anyone at this?

In March 1991, NME reported that Northside were appearing at the 'Great Indie Festival - A Midsummer's Day Dream' at Milton Keynes Bowl in June that year. Also on the bill were 808 State, Gary Clail, New Fast Automatic Daffodils, The Shamen, Shades of Rhythm plus Flowered Up.[1]

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

there's probably a million anti london threads, most of my contempt recently has been for the post jack penate rah rah schindie dogcum of recent years, partly cuz it's notably vile but also cuz i actually encounter these retards irl

as a place tho, london is too diverse to be hated in singularity like liverchester, and there are always good mp3s from london amidst the crap

good records from liverchester are pretty rare

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

why you trying to make me so miserable abt living in Mcr, ffs :(

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

nah i'm just asking u to become the manc varg vikerness

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but you're a londoner!
xps

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

dude sorry not really down on the city tho yr pubs are often too far apart and some bastard bulldozed Tommy Ducks and the big city shops suck balls quite a bit and the Pancake House closed as well :(

there are good things still tho i guess

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

I have seen the Manc Varg Vikerness and his name is...Guy Garvey.

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

Cornerhouse, that's a good thing. seem to recall some dece pubs round there too. Science Museum was fantastic last time I checked.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

there's probably some cavilling to be had abt middle class london ppl h8ing on other parts of the country, but srsly fuck that

evil is evil whether or not it has a cse in media studies or a photo with the bullingdon club

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

altho Liverpool's World museum is fucking amazing and blows most things away

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah pancake house RIP. I really like living here but tbh if people say 'what should we do on a visit to Mcr' then I'm kinda stumped.

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

i've never been to 'mcr' but i'd guess there are good things there, and there's plenty of cash in the suburbs and cheshire so it's not like i'm h8ing on mogadishu and its terrible indie scene

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku3g9xPCs0M

=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClcwKgxu2wk

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

there's 2 threads of mancs hating on a whole country so i dont think anyones gonna judge you nakh on hating the whole aura of manchester thing

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

i mean imma prob vote for mumfords in the landfill thread, i'm not sure i'd even have any liverchester filth in my top 3 or 4 contenders either

they're shit even at being shit

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/87Uni.jpg

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

Cheshire, culturally speaking, wants fuck all to do with Manchester (and vice versa).

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

And any connection Cheshire has with Manchester is with south Manchester, which has much less to do with the Manchester you are lamenting here, I think.

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1842QnWpqY&feature=related

from about 3 minutes on. what a great bloke Browny really is. looking for that dope-addled interview where he'd been listening to too much Capleton and started calling for dem battymen to be bunned.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

isn't south manchester the more middle class bit.....and some areas to the north, whereas inner manchester is mostly poor?

where do most of the shit bands come from

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

Runcorn

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

stone roses first album is probably the last thing in the manc indie canon that doesn't need to be destroyed

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

i'll rep for Yes Please, don't really care for the Roses but I guess that first album gave us "Tunes Splits the Atom" so it's not all bad.

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9kGItHdEYU

much better with them bleep bloops all over it

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

fuck I looked like Tunes in 1990, them round sunglasses were all the go

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

A guy called gerald + probably other great early 90s dance music that I don't know about probably puts Manchester on a level with Sheffield (stuff of that period). The dance music scene is alright, I prefer it to Leeds. I like Trus'me.

forest zombie (Vasco da Gama), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

S Manchester = middle class (inc all the uni students). Current musical output: dull indiepop

Yer shit Manc indie bands are from the inner manchester or, more likely, northern outskirts like Oldham.

South Manchester is not really representative of the city as a whole and has more in common with London/SE England than it does with East Manchester.

(I am a middle class Manchester uni graduate so obv live in south suburbs)

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X5ekIFIazg&feature=related

INDIE CLUB

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:23 (fifteen years ago)

I agree it's time ILM had an anti-sheffield thread!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

this is going to be the last h8fest i'm engaging in for a while, cuz between the theory bloggahs, the illiterate sportswriters, the deviantart nudniks and the landfill reets i've been keeping it negative in a not altogether healthy way this week

n e wayz to summarize, i can understand why an area that did see a lot of interesting stuff 25 yrs go would want to nurture some sort of heritage industry, tho the ubiquity of lecherous senile cunts like peter hook makes it seem pretty risible

however, whilst nobody would mistake the relics of the uk's industrial past for actual productive capacity, there seems to be a mistaken belief that former greatness in cultural fields persists beyond its very obvious death

this supposed aura is in actuality the grim spectre of endogamy and ancestor worship, an autophagic freakshow without end

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:36 (fifteen years ago)

sing that last line to yourself in the style of ian curtis

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

nah, 'senile cunts' and 'autophagic freakshow' in the same song could only be sung by MES, but i don't think he needs to outsource his lyrics

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

http://fuc51.blogspot.com/

oppet, Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

five years pass...

BY THE SEA...IS OVERRATED!!...

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 15:33 (nine years ago)

It felt more like 2 1/2 hours than Silence did.

calzino, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 15:39 (nine years ago)


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