Incase any one you didn't watch the VMA's, R. Kelly premiered a new chapter to the "Trapped in the Closet" saga, of which is about what happend to Cathy, Her Husband/Pastor and his Gay Lover.
The Performance, and the Song Alone, are probably one of the greatest thing's I've ever seen on MTV.
― Voodoo Child, Monday, 29 August 2005 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link
that lip-syncing bullshit was yet another ego trip on a show even more full of them than usual.
now, that said, id love to see Chapter 6 in the format of 1-5 (ie: as a video with real actors)
― JD from CDepot, Monday, 29 August 2005 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Genius.
― Chris O., Monday, 29 August 2005 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Voodoo Child, Monday, 29 August 2005 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris O., Monday, 29 August 2005 04:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris O., Monday, 29 August 2005 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I love the idea that "Trapped in the Closet" could turn into a wiki. Ludacris' version would be great but Bowling for Soup would eff it all up, of course.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 29 August 2005 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I really hope that the cop shows up in Chapter 7 in an attempt to either steal Kathy from Rufus or to initiate a threesome. That just seems perfect to me ...
I actually hadn;t even heard the the 5-part recording until tonight (a little behind on my r&b, clearly), but it's EASILY the best piece of pop music I've heard all year. Deserves to be single of the year, even if that's probably either going to be "Diamonds from Sierra Leone" or "Since U Been Gone" at this point, right?
― Chris O., Monday, 29 August 2005 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link
"Rufus is all 'Chuck, did I mention? Just wrap your legs 'round these velvet rims and strap your hands across my engines...'" "Chuck be all up like 'WTF??!!'"
― Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 29 August 2005 05:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Gross.
― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 29 August 2005 05:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 August 2005 05:31 (eighteen years ago) link
This was horrible. it had none of waht the other chapters had. no over the top camp at all. just boring drama. was chuck and rufus kissing supposed to be surprsing?
― jmeister (jmeister), Monday, 29 August 2005 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I guess we're supposed drive ourselves crazy wondering if Chuck is a) bisexual, or b) a closeted gay man who is married to a woman. However, Chuck's character is poorly developed compared to the other major players, so I'm not sure what reason we'd have to care about his story.
Also, the "chuck said rufus said kathy said x 5739393" part was more over the top than anything in Parts 1-5.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 29 August 2005 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― jmeister (jmeister), Monday, 29 August 2005 06:37 (eighteen years ago) link
I didn't really take it that way, more that he's "cured" of cheating in general. Rufus' final moment with Chuck is tender. I think if R. Kelly wanted to make a statement on curing homosexuality, Rufus wouldn't have kissed Chuck. And Chuck would have spontaneously combusted, burning in hell right before our ears. R's been a lot more sensitive about the gay thing than I ever would have suspected. Plus the whole pro-marriage vows stance seems more in line with "Closet" and Robert's brand of retardation.
Anyway, I posted an MP3 of "Part 6" that I recorded from the show. It's here:
http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2005/08/reloaded_or_ret.html
― Rich (Rich), Monday, 29 August 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
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― js (honestengine), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― PB, Monday, 29 August 2005 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Chapter 6: Phantom Menace...big letdown.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link
This is one of those songs I don't want to ever end, like Dylan's Highlands.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 29 August 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe McCombs, Monday, 29 August 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link
haha that's a good comparison actually...lots of dialogue in each....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 29 August 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Rich has a point, but I still think the cheer at the end when Rufus goes back to kathy was a bit...ugh.
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link
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― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
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― 3, Monday, 29 August 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link
How many on the DL dudes do you know who are bi like that?!
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― 3, Monday, 29 August 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
(xp haha @ the idea that madonna+britney kiss has anything to do with the assault homosexuality poses on our family values!!!)
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
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― 3, Monday, 29 August 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
To me, this is the most interesting part of the "Closet" ordeal, which I felt wasn't clever enough to merit its bombast. I'm kinda sorry that I doubted him.
― Rich (Rich), Monday, 29 August 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
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― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link
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― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link
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― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link
http://home.earthlink.net/~scottsmiley/images/Confused.gif
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Vows? What Are Those? (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Thats the parallel that doesn't make sense.
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
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― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Doctor, heal thyself.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
I said the super-happy cheers at the end of the unconvincing skit where the dude who cheats on his wife with a MAN decides to go back to his wife was suspect and made me uncomfortable.
Apparently I'm not allowed to feel this way, and also I've been randomly calling people homophobes and I'm trying too hard to prove how PC I am?!
Fuck that.
xp M@tt I didn't just flip out and call people asswhipes.
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, and they might have been applauding because alien invaders made them appluade via powerful brain-suggestion-machines, what's your point? They also could have been cheering because "yay, he decided to stay with WOMAN where MAN BELONG" which I don't think is much of a stretch.
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link
vs.
"deej seriously you should go FUCK YOURSELF now, asswipe. where was i when other people were discussing kill whitie?!? oh right, ALL OVER THE THREAD SAYING HOW FUCKING LAME KILL WHITIE IS. get one new scapegoat, and perhaps pay attention in class, fuckface."
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost deej you compared me with kill whitie so i think you deserve all of that hatred and vitriol. you're a fucking idiot.
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
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― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
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― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link
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― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link
-- deej.. (el...), August 29th, 2005.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 29 August 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
that people were applauding because Rufus had decided to go back to his wife, not just because, it was an awards show and it was the END OF THE SONG, like ethan suggested.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― maura (maura), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― deej.., Monday, 29 August 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Trapped in the Closet, Part 117 -- in which Rufus and Chuck reunited in the down-low retirement home.
― Chris O., Monday, 29 August 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
MTV = dumbing down society
FACT
this stupid fight is only backing it up
MTV has grown into such a monster, I don't really think it matters whether or not their audience is homophobic. Look at the reality shows, the beach party shows, the "total request live" shows, fucking Beavis and Butthead.
The only thing to conclude is that MTV's audience is CHILDISH and FUCKING BORDERLINE RETARDED.
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link
The only thing similar I can think of is EPMD's "Jane" saga, but that went album to album, and didn't have such cohesive narrative.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
(xpost: I didn't even watch the VMAs but that doesn't change the point that being snotty about other people's television habits is a rhetoric technique that most people should really grow out of after they leave high school.)
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
as opposed to my 9th grade drama class, when doing this sort of thing was an assignment
― maura (maura), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 29 August 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
"My niece has got it/ Cherise has got it"
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link
less MTV fights
more slow-jam challenge throw-downs!!!
― jsoulja (jsoulja), Monday, 29 August 2005 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link
this is exactly what i thoughtthere is no circumstance where that performance was not absurd- the only debate is "brilliantly absurd or just absurd?"
he was marcel marceau'ing his ass off...
i may never say "what the fuck?" with any greater conviction again in my lifetime
― natlawdp, Monday, 29 August 2005 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I say Rufus keeps vacillating between Chuck and Kathy until they both get sick of him; he's outed and disgraced before his flock; he becomes a preacher to homeless gay men, ending up so destitute and dejected he takes $55 to do a video from the site bumpee.com where these two obnoxious frat boy types pay homeless guys to receive golden showers; um, R. Kelly sees the video and recognizes Rufus as the guy from trapped in the closet and takes pity on him; on the eve of R.'s sentencing for his k1dd1e pZrn conviction they escape to a secret island R. owns.
Episode 100: they spoon all night.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 29 August 2005 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Turn your brains off, it's just fun, you know?
― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― urinal, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 09:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― ghostofaaliyah, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link
well, that alone would make it an accomplishment !
― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 11:07 (eighteen years ago) link
You're Macy Gray?
― Leon C. (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
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― AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 10:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Now soon as I left Cathys house, they all get up of the floorthen Rufus says Chuck are you okey, then Cathy closes the doorthen Chuck said Rufus what the hell just happened, then Rufus said I'll tell yashe just almost got us shot, right here in this roomthen Cathy says you got nerve, almost got you shot? when you sneeking in and out of hotels with him and not telling what I gotChuck says and what do you mean by that?Cathy looks at him and says: figure it out!he says: uhhhhhh Rufus, she do'nt know me, I will cut this bitch right nowcome on and try itwait I swear to God, try itjust try itRufus I swear to God, try itcome on, try itcome on, CALM YOUR ASS DOWN!Rufus says, Rufus says Chuck we'll talk about it laterthen Cathy says this shit is saidChuck says Rufus I'm leaving, are you coming?Cathy says Rufus, then Chuck says RufusRufus looks at Chuck and says: Chuck you know I love youChuck says well lets go he said but I love her toothen Chuck says Rufus what about the things you told me, the things we did, the places we went, the love you made to me..then Cathy says wait a minute, now I've heard enough of this bullChuck says me too, Rufus lets go can't you see the stunt she's trying to pull?Rufus says I said nobody's going nowere, to we figure this outCathy says like I said, it ain't nothing to figure out, so get this fool up out my housethen Rufus said: your house is my house too and I say he staysChuck says Rufus Im out of hereRufus says Chuck hold up, just wait!Cathy says let him go, Rufus, I need you and Chuck says Rufus I need you toothen Rufus says Chuck, Chuck says Rufus if I loved you(???) aint no telling what I would do (???)then Cathy says Rufus, Rufus says Cathy, Chuck says Rufus, Rufus says Chuckthen Cathy grabs himthen Chuck pulls himthen Cathy says Rufus, please, if you love me, dont let him ruin our livesthen Rufus looks at Cathy, then he lets go of Cathy, then he looks at Chuck he walks over to Chuck, and then he kisses Chuck, then he says to Chuck: Chuck I'm sorry, but I'm going back to my wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife!!!
― RKelly88, Monday, 12 September 2005 05:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Reading Comprehension Isn't Your Forte (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 September 2005 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Yup. Easily entertained right here. It was kinda like listening to a Madea play without paying a shitload of money.
― Candicissima (candicissima), Monday, 12 September 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 September 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Me, I found the performance completely half-arsed and disappointing, but enormously enjoyed watching how Kelly's disconnect from reality enabled him to deliver something so half-arsed and disappointing in such an earnest manner.
― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 12 September 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mouse77749, Thursday, 15 September 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― ccgffd, Sunday, 18 September 2005 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Sunday, 18 September 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Richard Hanooman, Monday, 26 September 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 26 September 2005 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link
some facts gleaned:the saga is written through chapter 22.chuck's backstory: he was a transvestite hustler in san francisco who moved to chicago and was saved by rufus' preaching.twan's backstory: he was running drugs from chicago to atlanta and got busted, and he's just getting out of prison.the guy playing the cop in chapters 6-12 (out on dvd on 11/1) is not the same guy who played the cop in chapter 4's original edit.
also r kelly did an amazing imitation of himself as an old man, asking what chapter he was up to.
finally, a gun that was introduced in the first segment does, indeed, go off.
― maura (maura), Saturday, 22 October 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Candicissima (candicissima), Saturday, 22 October 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 October 2005 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link
The Intraweb really suxxor sometimes. Deej's feeling is totally justified. So is hstencil's disagreement with it.
So let's call each other nasty names and behave like schoolchildren! YEAH!!!
Besides, only Chapter 1 was any good, anyway.
― marc h. (marc h.), Sunday, 23 October 2005 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― maura (maura), Sunday, 23 October 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― adam (adam), Sunday, 23 October 2005 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link
hold tight lioness on this one
― bobbi (bobbi), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 24 October 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link
"Rufus says Chuck we'll talk about it laterthen Cathy says this shit is saidChuck says Rufus I'm leaving, are you coming?Cathy says Rufus, then Chuck says RufusRufus looks at Chuck and says: Chuck you know I love you"
Surely this is lame. Maybe it works if it's performed by more than one guy but as a one man performance this was just laughable.
― mms (mms), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 06:52 (eighteen years ago) link