Matias Aguayo

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Can we please talk about 'Are You Really Lost'? I know on other threads this has been discussed, but I think he desrves more. I've been listening to the album since yesterday. Has anyone else heard it? Anyone as excited as I am? What about track 4 Well?

Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 25 August 2005 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link

ooh, a "rock lobster" sample!

lou (lou), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link

oops! make that "planet claire". mixed them up in all my excitement

lou (lou), Thursday, 25 August 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Though I'm more a fan of the Wellen side of Closer Music, it's been growing on me, especially "The Green and The Red" and "So In Love."

James Jung, Thursday, 25 August 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Meant to say Leyers...

James Jung, Thursday, 25 August 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Wellen made it apparent that Leyers was responsible for the bulbous melodies in CM (Maria, Departures).

For some reason I had been led to believe that Leyers was doing the vocals, not Aguayo. Maybe it's just 'cause Dirk sounds more like a frontman's name than Matias.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

The album is very good< I think.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 August 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure the "Planet Claire" bit isn't really a sample, just a quote. "Drums & Feathers" sounds like it could be an Isolee track.

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

on first listen, this didn't seem very interesting to me, a bit samey (like, even considering). but I was working, so not sure if I'm missing the good parts

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Leyers was the somber and gentle side of closer musik?

Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 25 August 2005 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Monkey be shit
Put the dope on your head fire
you stick around like a flesh up in your mouth

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 25 August 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

(I can't get "De Papel" out of my head)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 26 August 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, I would like to take back what I said.

Three or four good tracks, two or three awful ones. Not the best, overall.

Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Sunday, 28 August 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Is really "De Papel" a version of Massive Attack's Daydreaming?

nocure, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm guessing you're thinking of the ft. version? I think it's just the MC's voice that does it.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.soulseduction.com/common/item_detail.php?ItemCode=B188298

nocure, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Which means that it too is sort of ripping off Wally Badarou's Mambo.

(That is at least the 20th time I've mentioned Wally Badarou on ILM.)

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I think I might have to get this! If anyone knows of a reason why I should not, speak now... blah blah blah.

To my non-expert ears it sounds really something. Quite different to Closer Musik, but obviously in the same tradition (minimal yet melodic, slow, sultry tempos & vocals). Kind of a fusion of the best things about traditional style house (Chicago/Deep? I'm barely knowledgable about all this really) & minimal/electro-house (Get Physical-esque foggy synth cloudbursts). The first Kompakt full-length I've been tempted by in a long while really!

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: Ferenc vs. Aguayo in the '05?

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 15 October 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

What's the "Version" um, version of "De Papel" on the 12"? I've been holding out on getting it from Kompakt Mp3 (Kompakt vinyl is crazy expensive so I try and limit myself to mp3->cd wherever I can) because it's missing that one track.

telephone thing, Saturday, 15 October 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

huh.

Multiplyin shit
Put the dope out your head
If I...
Me stick around got a flesh up in your mouth.

dd_____ (dayvidday), Saturday, 15 October 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I think that this is the worst Kompakt record I've ever heard. I'm not exaggerating!

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

! :-D

*hovers on 'buy' button*

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Only buy it if you've got loads of money to spend on bad records!

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

what turned you around 180? the dodgy lyrics?

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah this feels very slight to me. which is a shame because the closer music album is very much the best artist lp kompakt has released

strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

what turned you around 180?

1. I'm one of the most fickle people on this board.
2. Maybe the lyrics, yes.
3. it only has two half-decent songs on it.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I can't really afford it this week anyway. Perhaps I'll download it first for once (I've just been listening to those samples linked above).

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I just heard this last night and tracks 2 and 3 seemed to bring things around a bit for me after the really bad opener. Beyond track 3, it seems to kind of float along without further development, but maybe some of it will grow on me with a few more listens.

Nowhere near the quality of the Closer Music and Ferenc albums, both of which still baffle me because they're two of the strongest full-lengths in Kompakt's entire catalog, and yet they've both been pretty much ignored (especially the Closer Music album).

But there is no way this is as bad as the recent Justus Kohncke album, i.e. two great tracks surrounded by absolute rubbish....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Doppelben! The Ferenc is a real grower.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Doppelben too actually! Especially the Carly Simon cover.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 15 October 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I am still puzzled by this CD. This excerpt from the press release is hilarious though:

"Anyone who drives faster than 125 will be pulled over, enjoy the journey around 119 bpm, as the sweat will drench your body equally as much if you were travelling this fantastic road at a faster speed and you are destined to come out of it reeking of great sex"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 15 October 2005 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

What are the "three good tracks" incidentally?

I'll take a guess at 'De Papel', 'Drums & Feathers' and 'New Life'?

The whole thing sounds almost like the exact opposite of the Closer Musik stuff to me, and in a good way. I'll save the tedious explanations why until I've actually y'know, heard it. I'm not going to write this off. I think it might actually be good and there be wrongness abounding on this thread!.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I still really like like album after many listens. Well stands as one of my favorite songs of the year. De Papel,Drums & Feathers,So In Love, and Radiotax;i all I have used in sets I've played. These songs work well as tracks or layers in sets. The only song I find awkward is Are You Really Lost, the chanting sort of annoys me. Still I love closer musik a little more, but I'm trying to not compare the two so much.
xpost I also like Doppelben even the pop songs.

Jacobs (LolVStein), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked Kaito more than the Closer Musik album but I guess that's a different can of worms entirely.

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember when I thought it was cool Kompakt had a spiky underground English guitar band on the label, broad church & all that.

But that was KaitO. Silly me.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i love this album. press the 'buy now' button! miles better than the justus albums. usually vocals drive me crazy but something about his lyrics/delivery brings me joy.

biz, Sunday, 16 October 2005 03:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I love this one too. Sleek, spartan, empty.

It's the Ferenc album I'm not really getting (I mean it's good but never really leaves an impression.)


Omar (Omar), Sunday, 16 October 2005 07:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i agree with omar. what's weird is that you could use sleek, spartan and empty as negative connotations for the ferenc album and positive for aguayo. it's the beats. the ferenc album feels parochial whereas the aguayo feels open and now.

both doppelleben and are you really lost? are fantastic though. hard to pick between the two.

kompakt is turning into warp. (if it hasn't already)

tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 16 October 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

ahaha. It totally is already I think.

Especially if you consider the respective mp3 shops & the other labels they take under their wing or help distribute.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 16 October 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Now we just have to wait for Thom Yorke to declare his love for Kompakt to bring us full circle.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 16 October 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Next Radiohead album will start with two gauzy foggy tech-house tracks with Thom singing in German.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 16 October 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Yet you could still imagine them singing it in a stadium.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 17 October 2005 03:15 (eighteen years ago) link

This is great... weird and original!

login name (fandango), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

This album comes in the middle of the electro house fuzz ... like fresh air to my ears.

ifeelspace, Friday, 28 October 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Since it hasn't been mentioned before, there's a 5-hour DJ set with Matias Aguayo and Chica Paula at Betalounge, dated January 15, 2005. It's a very nice and diverse set, and if anyone recognizes the track at 3:33, please let know!

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that 3 hours and 33 minutes? :)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

yep, any ideas as to what that may be?

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd also like to mention that I'm quite happy with the way Realplayer streams are growing in bitrate these days, that set comes in at a steady 135 kbps, which renders it almost rippable.

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

mmmm yes this album is very very good, much love for "Well" as well.

deej.. (deej..), Sunday, 30 October 2005 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I did an interview via email with Aguayo a couple of weeks ago. It's on a swedish website but the Q and A is still in english. Go here if you are interested:

http://www.digfi.com/default.aspx?id=8051

emil, Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks for that :)

This record is one of the few times where no writer-type seems to have quite nailed and described exactly the same thing I'm hearing in anything I've read, or maybe they have but it's all in bits & pieces.

I dunno, the sweatiness and sexiness is there. In how the slow tempo almost seem to reflect a need to move, but not any kind of hyperactive exertion. That would kill you in the heat. I love how organic this all feels, like it's been made out in the desert, with whatever pots & pans shit was close to hand, far away from any kind of regular electronic studio... in fact the whole thing feels spicy & heat-soaked, burning up, dusty... almost tribal, but without the usual 'banging'-ness. I guess the 'not driving too fast' thing in the press release reflects that 'road movie' feel. I mean 'So In Love' just has that vibe of someone totally losing their shit as some crazy unexpected affair is about to end, or leave that insane level of intial unsustainable pleausure. It hasn't quite happened yet, but it's subconsciously approaching.

I like the Closer Musik stuff I've heard too, but it's SO different to this. When that's minimal it's all cold, considered, worried & twitchy, and what warmth there is, is very much that detroitian electronic kind of 'warmth'. It's a completely urban record, albeit still one with hurt feelings.

Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Sunday, 13 November 2005 04:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The fingerclicks in 'Drums and Feathers' (and that ever so slight fade (echo?) after, like it's been recorded plain, and live in an empty space) sound like they'd absolutely KILL played loud over the right system.

Worst song, played on ugliest guitar (fandango), Sunday, 13 November 2005 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i played "drums and feathers" out the other night, and you're right.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 13 November 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I played 'Radiotaxi' in a set of mainly older electro/disco/proto-house and it worked well. It mixes nicely with 'Bring Down the Walls' by Mr. Fringers/Robert Owens.

Jacobs (LolVStein), Sunday, 13 November 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Interesting. I mixed "De Papel" with Mr Fingers "Gallimaufry Gallery" the other day. Went down very well.

Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Sunday, 13 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Fantastic album. Really.

Tobias Rapp (Tobias Rapp), Sunday, 13 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been back and forth with this album and can't decide whether the sultriness of it is fantastic or just kind of silly. Regardless, I'm surprised as to the amount of coverage it's receiving, even for a Kompakt release. (Ref: Andy Kellman's review on allmusic for the most insight and melodrama. It's on the Spotlight today. You'd think Closer Musik's break-up was of Morrissey/Marr proportions.)

Also, what kind of house is this exactly? Is it house? Minimal techno? Is it the trendy Ketamine House? Or a new, sleazier K-Y House? Discuss further please- it's still not clear to me....

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Re-post.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"drums and feathers" is definately the club track.

dd_____ (dayvidday), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this album has more in common with Adonis, Jamie Principle, Ron Hardy, than Dominik Eulberg or M.A.N.D.Y. I'm not saying it's retro or nostalgic, it doesn't sound like Chicago House, but it kind of feels like it at times

Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I get the Jamie Principle and Adonis references, but there seems to be less soul here.

Plus, I think maybe Chicago House is to Matias Aguayo as Sounding Sexy is to Trying To Sound Sexy.

But that might be a little harsh.

jsoulja (jsoulja), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

ouch

Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I've had this for a week now and I think it's brilliant. Very brooding and almost menacing in places. Just right. Take away "The Green and the Red" and the title track and it's perfect to my ears.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 18 November 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah I was hoping to broaden the discussion on this record a bit, but nobody seems interested. The electronic bent ILMers are kind of absent lately maybe? Or maybe no one likes this record. Or maybe it's the time of year when everyone is content with

"Hey have you heard this remix? So fantastic!"

"Yeah, it is."

"Me, too."

jsoulja (jsoulja), Friday, 18 November 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

"Could you YSI it, pleaze?"

Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
So I'm still listening to this and still loving it. What does he use for the deep gurgly sound on New Life? I have no technical knowledge.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

The bonus version of "De Papel" never fails to make me roffle in a good way.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I *really* want to love this, but I can't!

adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you like it?

fandango (fandango), Friday, 13 January 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

...not really...

adamrl (nordicskilla), Friday, 13 January 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I say you gotta start with De Papel (both versions), New Life, and So In Love and let the rest creep up on you.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 13 January 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I like the title track best. Actually I sort of think the record gets progressively better as it goes along - at least if I skip track one as I like the bonus version of "De Papel" more than the original (more corny raps plz!).

It's a v. good album overall I think. I actually think a lot of it would work best though in a mix - I'd love to start a mix with "Are You Really Lost".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 15 January 2006 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link

this is a really exceptional record. i've been listening to it steadily since its release and i'm still not tired of it. shame it got a bit buried amidst the madness of kompakt's crazy second half of 2005.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 16 January 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i'll try again then

adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i think this is a nice, solid record. there are no moments of personal transcendence however.

can i derail another thread and say that jess is OTM about closer musik being the best artist lp on kompakt.

cheshire05, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this may be a better LP than After Love though - the highs of "Departures" and "You Don't Know Me" may be higher but I think Are You Really Lost is more generally engrossing.

(I mean After Love is about as consistent as Touch, and the highs on the latter record (well, "Amabile" at any rate) are even higher!)

Oddly the a-side of the Kontrast record makes it appear that Leyers is moving in a similar direction as Aguayo - slow slow slow and totally trance inducing.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I agree with you tim, although the songs I like of closer musik, I really love, and the weaker ones I never listen to. I usually play 'are you really lost' from start to finish.

Jacobs (LolVStein), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I still find myself "singing" So In Love to myself all the time even though I haven't given the album a listen in several months. What a great track that is.

matt2 (matt2), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

same here :)

willem -- (willem), Monday, 1 May 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I've come to think this is kompakt's best album release, next to Closer Musik. "So In Love" has become my favorite track.

Jacobs (LolVStein), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah "So In Love" is now my favourite track as well.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I've come to think this is kompakt's best album release, next to Closer Musik. "So In Love" has become my favorite track.

this comparison has inspired me to give are you really lost another try.

lf (lfam), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

off to the radio station to give it a whirl

lf (lfam), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

spicy house! still great :)

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
i think "Well" is one of my favourite songs of the past few years. i mostly like this record. Well, Drums & Feathers and De Papel are all fantastic.

HOWEVER

have you ever seen a cover worse than this?

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-523257-1134573193.jpeg

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 17 June 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-523257-1134573193.jpeg


it's really quite amazing is it not?

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 17 June 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

ah shit

http://www.soundvenue.com/upload/anmeldelse/2005-12/matiasaguayo_14122005_top.jpg

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 17 June 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, I have seen much worse (at least its all in black and white, and its not overly inelegant...). Its also a very un-dance cover.

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 17 June 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

inelegant is exactly the word for it. not only is the drawing hideous but the way the text is layed out just baffles me.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 17 June 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the drawing but agree the text layout is messiness. What exactly is the drawing meant to be? It looks vaguely sexual whatever it is. Suits the music.

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 17 June 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

the live show is AMAZING

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 June 2006 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it's a side on view of woman with alot of hair putting her arm up to her face? i have to say the more i look at it (it is "un-dance", is that good?) the more i'm coming round to it.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 17 June 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, a women whose head is made entirely of hair! Actually the more I look at it the moreit looks like semi-porno drawn in the style of the moomins. Well its better than duff vector art/fractals isn't it?

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

NEW ALBUM IS A WORK OF SATANIC GENIUS.

Totally combines all the great qualities of the first album with "Minimal" with the output on his label. Starts of hypnotic dance and ends up totally weird - last track "Juanita" is like this epic dancehall number.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 09:30 (fourteen years ago) link

:)

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 09:31 (fourteen years ago) link

when is it out? He was great live when I saw him a month or so ago.

mmmm, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 09:40 (fourteen years ago) link

in two weeks.
satanic? does he grunt?

willem, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link

excited abt this

just sayin, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link

More panting than grunting.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i am incredible excited to hear this. i think mr. aguayo and his comeme label have been my favourite thing about 2009.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:06 (fourteen years ago) link

incrediblY

stirmonster, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha is it really called 'Ay Ay Ay'?!

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link

man i thought the single was really boring where it was trying to be inventive

lorax body spray (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Which single jordan?

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:35 (fourteen years ago) link

"rollerskate" - the "radio edit" was reviewed in pitchfork the other day. i guess the title & review threw me off a bit. i was expecting something a bit more... colorful? more disco? i mean, allowing that the guy is on kompakt and all but the idea of the song sounds cooler to me than the actual song does.

lorax body spray (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:41 (fourteen years ago) link

it does sound like the work of someone who might be satanic though

lorax body spray (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"Rollerskate" is one of the more minimal tracks - but did you like the first album Jordan? It strikes me as no less colourful than that stuff.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link

this is the first that i've heard of him

lorax body spray (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:49 (fourteen years ago) link

!!! Okay Jordan, speaking personally I would say don't be too quick to judge, it took me ages to fully click with matias. Your reaction totally doesn't surprise me, I think I felt the same way about a lot of the Closer Musik material at first and then large swathes of his album at first. Not quite sure when and how it all clicked.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Aguayo is playing live at Fabric on 14th nov (w/ Magda, Jennifer Cardini, Tobias Thomas and Superpitcher)

äüßerst delikate angelegenheit, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Jordan - search for 'Minimal' and 'Bo Jack Pop'.

I think what I love about Aguayo is his sense of humour, and not in a wacky Bentley Rhythm Ace way. The discourse around dance music can be so dry sometimes and he cuts through that - by acknowledging the slightly ridiculous side of what people are going to do to this music.

His best records are highly functional tracks that nevertheless seem explicitly designed to subtly accentuate the funny side of watching a room full of people gurning and dancing badly while on drugs (or, alternatively, being one of them).

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I think what I love about Aguayo is his sense of humour, and not in a wacky Bentley Rhythm Ace way. The discourse around dance music can be so dry sometimes and he cuts through that - by acknowledging the slightly ridiculous side of what people are going to do to this music.

this makes sense to me, i mean this idea certainly apparent in "rollerskate" regardless of its quality

lorax body spray (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Jordan, go here and to "De Papel," "New Life," and most especially "So In Love."

http://www.kompakt.fm/releases/are_you_really_lost

matt2, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

only listened to Rollerskate once.. didn't really click with it but I am SO looking forward to this regardless.

"Are You Really Lost" I still like as much as I did when babbling on this thread horribly about it in 2005... I'll probably buy Ay AY Ay blind just 'cos this guy is a total dude basically.

fndgo, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really enjoy trying to be desperately up to the minute about music tthese days either but of what Comeme stuff I've heard i LOVE the new Rebodello. Guerrero!!

fndgo, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm super excited about hearing this. I don't guess this will have any of the overt sexiness of Closer Musik?

Jacob Sanders, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

A different kind of sexiness, less pervy and more hot impromptu party.

I find it really interesting how his sound has evolved (even taking into account that Dirk Leyers probably did most (?) of the music for Closer Musik), there's a real erm "logical progression" with each release, to the point where the vewry live-sounding tribal rhythms on this sound totally natural and comfortable.

It's kinda roughly comparable to the difference between Luciano circa Blind Behaviour and Luciano now, though I think Matias has pushed further than Luciano does on Tribute to the Sun towards a kind of blissed out live party jam feel.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

'are you really lost' is a record i def regret not voting for in the 00s poll

btw tim, did you ever post your ballot somewhere?

the burrprint squee (deej), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsxV_qNVdec

i like his appearance in this better than the new record, tbh. and i love matias.

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link

also, the BumBumBox parties look so fun. i want one in west oakland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Qmaf4t4wE

this one is from sao paulo...

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i love water on my skin, i love to lean against the wind
i love to walk alone at night, i love the city lights
'cos i'm lonely but i'm not the only, 2, 3...
you don't know me - sssh/

I'll never tire of this.

jed_, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

'are you really lost' is a record i def regret not voting for in the 00s poll

^^ Me too, though I'd have to examine to see whether it definitely would have made it (e.g. do I like it more or less than Rhythm & Sound's w/the artists?). I don't want to post my ballot because I'm ashamed of how wrong I got it. Never try to list the 100 best records of the decade in one hour.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 October 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

haha mine is totally 'wrong' i mean i voted for monster magnet ! but i think a wrong all-over-the-place list is way more fun anyway

the burrprint squee (deej), Thursday, 8 October 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

f**K an 00's polls in 2009 anyway.

fndgo, Thursday, 8 October 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

can't wait to hear this! For me, the older Aguayo stuff is all about the polyrhythms and the sounds he uses for his beats. Have not heard the new stuff aside from the youtubes in this thread. I like the random video game-esque themes popping up in tracks this year. You'd think it'd be stale, but it sounds pretty fresh to these ears. That Fabric line-up looks great!!

t (tricky), Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

TS: Minimal (original mix) vs. Minimal (DJ Koze remix)

the original kills the Koze mix, in my opinion, but i've seen other people who prefer the Koze mix. they're wrong though, right?

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

orignaaaal for me

t (tricky), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

love both but the OG is so damn greasy in all the best ways

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

def the original "minimal"

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

can i just

http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=6257

"Bo Jack," in fact, has more in common with baile funk than house or techno, utilizing cheap synthesizers and drum machines to craft a tune as catchy Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy"—the song he borrows his vocal melody from.

nagl, RA

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

especially since the title spells it right out

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

eh?

fndgo, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I feel like I shouldn't have to say this, but Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy" is a cover of the Strangeloves' "I Want Candy", which is a note for note rip of one of Bo Diddley's signiture tunes, "Bo Diddley". Aguayo's tune is called "Bo Jack", as in he's jacking themes from Bo Diddley. The RA writer looks rather myopic in his ignorance of this.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Especially since the Bo Diddley beat is one of the most basic building blocks of post-WWII pop music.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, well I didn't get it either, sorry. I guess I have to go back to having an encylopeadic knowledge of knowing stuff about music (or face the disdain of some internet guy) school.

I don't expect anything much from a site which sees fit to employ ******** anyway, most of their other reviewers seem to be sourced from blogs, and it's not like they're making any pretensions towards publishing a book or anything.

fndgo, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Naw, don't get me wrong, I'm not begrudging for not knowing that, just the reviewer, so sorry if I came off as condescending toward you. You aren't the one purporting to be an authority on anything.

hood acumen (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

While we're having a discussion about Matias Aguayo's thefts, where did he get the vocal melody for Walter Neff? It sounds so familiar, i'm certain it's ripped from another song.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 8 October 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

For me, the older Aguayo stuff is all about the polyrhythms and the sounds he uses for his beats.

You will like the new album.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

First of All, The Koze remix of Minimal destroys the original, which is very good, but it's no Koze remix.

Rollerskate is great, I entirely fail to see how it's not colourful or disco-tinged.

I thought Are You Really Lost was, in a word, good, but not much more than that (I think the problem is I find his sound design to be a bit more on the... dry side, maybe?), it seems Matias has really injected his music with a lot of personality and flavour over the last few years, onto what's already some quality musical aptitude, though, so I wouldn't be surprised if this new album is amazing.

EDB, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

But the Koze mix just sounds like a generic dance track with all the spice taken out in favor of mixability and homogeny. Not one of Koze's best efforts.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

The Koze mix is nice enough on it's own terms but it takes out the swanee whistles which is indefensible IMO.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't abide the Koze mix: there's something about it that just sounds wrong and makes it really difficult to listen to.

eazy e street band (c sharp major), Friday, 9 October 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i love water on my skin, i love to lean against the wind
i love to walk alone at night, i love the city lights
'cos i'm lonely but i'm not the only, 2, 3...
you don't know me - sssh/

I'll never tire of this.

OTM! That song is such a thrill. I think it might be my favorite Kompakt single, period.

Also, After Love far surpasses Are You Really Lost. Does anyone really think otherwise? Looking forward to the new one anyway.

For anyone who missed it, there's a lovely little Closer Musik live set from the 2001 Mutek festival here.

lou, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Kind of shocked to see so little discussion of Walter Neff on this thread. Best thing he's ever done solo if you ask me.

(Or maybe Pitaya Frenesi with Rebolledo, though that's not "solo" of course)

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Friday, 9 October 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

agree about walter neff. so fabulous it never gets tired.

stirmonster, Friday, 9 October 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

judgement on new lp currently torn between amazing bumping grooves vs too many comedy voices

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i'll prob end up filing it alongside mungolian jet set

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link

a/k/a one of the best dance releases of the year??

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link

ha no, in that the amazing sounds battle with the bits that make me flinch and i end up not going back to it to sort out which are which

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link

best dance release of year sooo omar-s for me, and i think the new redshape may end up alongside it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

oh and black meteoric star!!! yes.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean if we're talking house/techno end not funky/dubstep/wvs.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly this aguayo album could be so much better if the amount of "spooky" voices was halved or possibly quartered, that fluttering synth marimba melody at the end of "desde rusia" is pretty irresistible

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:07 (fourteen years ago) link

they're a lot better when they actually break into a proper vocal chant as on "ritmo juárez" rather than doing that constant sub-beatboxing shite

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

haven't heard this yet but lex totally otm about the MJS record

on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link

The MJS vocals kind of split between awful and intrusive and annoying (Could You Be Loved, Milano Model) and perfect for the record (Creepy, Ocean 0304).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:20 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm really enjoying this on first listen - I don't hear the vocals as "comedy voices" at all and certainly not in the Mungolian Jet Set way.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Sunday, 15 November 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone go to fabric on saturday?

djh, Sunday, 15 November 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

they're a lot better when they actually break into a proper vocal chant as on "ritmo juárez" rather than doing that constant sub-beatboxing shite

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:08 AM (1 month ago)

Beatboxing is sub-Ay Ay Ay shite imo

throwbookatface (skygreenleopard), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

sat 12th december
ALLEZ-ALLEZ PRESENTS
MATIAS AGUAYO
SHUMI (KOMPAKT)
CARGO, LONDON

Tannenbaum Schmidt, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

enjoying this record a lot i must say. dew dew dew dew dew dew deeewwww deeeewwww

Roz, Friday, 4 December 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

It's essentially acapella house music, isn't it? I like this record best when there are no instruments involved at all, just the sound of voices imitating the clicks and snaps and detuning pling plong noises you'd treat as standard in minimal. It feeds perfectly into my argument upthread about Aguayo totally getting the inherent silliness and ridiculousness of even the most po-faced European techno.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 4 December 2009 10:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I like this a lot too. One of the most refreshing records I've heard in a while.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

like this a lot but up there with Are you really lost and After Love? Not quite sure.

Pedro Paramore (jim), Friday, 4 December 2009 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't really think I've given this a fair shake yet but up to now... hasn't really clicked like I would have expected, am a bit on the fence :/

fndgo, Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

(also)

fndgo, Saturday, 5 December 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Mix:

http://soundcloud.com/sampler_podcast01

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

He does a remix on the new Afro-Colombian comp on Soul Jazz called "Jende Ri Palenge". The whole collection is great, and it's worth much more than a Matias obscurity.

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 11 March 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...
two years pass...
three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg9yZsp8CCM

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 13:37 (five years ago) link

still nuts, then.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link

Great track

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link

kind of falling off the mati aguayo train in recent years. will give this a listen later

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

video better than track

or something, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link


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