http://www.channel101.com/shows/view.php?media_id=805
― Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link
She knows how much I enjoy the Yacht Rock genre (especially Mike "The Beard" MCDonald"), so how caould I not...
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 8 July 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 July 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 8 July 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 July 2005 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― tylero (tylero), Friday, 8 July 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― JD Ryznar, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pangolino 2, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Would this be the right place to request a Rough Guide to Yacht Rock?
― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
RFI: I'm making a Yacht Rock mix, of all the good and the bad. Ferrinstance, "What a Fool Believes" is a great song. "Sweet Freedom" is bloody awful. I digress.
What is the song near the beginning of the first episode, the next song you hear after "Sweet Freedom," that starts playing just as the scene wipes in, with the tinkly guitar? It was a huge hit, I know. But what is it? It's like some kinda proto-lite-rock-song. I need it for my mix.
Also, I need some other gaps filled in. The list I have is too sparse. I have:
Kenny Loggins - This Is ItSteely Dan - PegDoobie Brothers - What a Fool BelievesHall and Oates - Sara SmileChristopher Cross - SailingLoggins and Messina - Whenever I Call You FriendSteely Dan - Time Out of MindDoobie Brothers - How Do the Fools Survive?Michael McDonald - Sweet FreedomKenny Loggins - I'm Alright
And some non-canonical stuff, like Spyro Gyra. Man, if that's not yacht, I don't know what is.
Anyway. Help would be appreciated. Thkx.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 19 September 2005 06:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes it would!
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 19 September 2005 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Franke & the Knockouts, "Sweetheart"Pablo Cruise, "Place in the Sun"Little River Band, "Reminiscing"
p.s. "Whenever I Call You Friend" was Loggins & Nicks, not Messina. :)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 19 September 2005 06:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Little River Band is perfect.
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 19 September 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 19 September 2005 06:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 19 September 2005 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Because:Lady Love - Jon LucienHelp Me - Joni MitchellHonolulu City Lights - The Beamer Brothers
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Monday, 19 September 2005 07:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 19 September 2005 07:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 19 September 2005 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Monday, 19 September 2005 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Monday, 19 September 2005 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
It took a couple of viewings, but I think it's up there with the back-alley songwriting dual.
― first-time caller, long-time listener, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Between the hair and spectacles, Toto ruled.
― dude of plenty, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― JD Ryznar (JD Ryznar), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Stay smooth!
― late adopter, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Bless you J. D. Ryznar. I saw these films for the first time today. I have loved this intricate, ever so smooth, late 70's Fagen/McDonald inflected cheeseball music for such a long time, but never knew what to call it. Yacht Rock it is. I eagerly await the 5th installment, and the sure to be heavy dose of 80's Michael McDonald that it will contain (Sweet Freedom, I Keep Forgettin', Yah Mo Be There).
Since it seems you check on this thread from time to time:
The movies are brilliant, I particularly enjoy the use of Breezin' by George Benson in the first episode, Jeff Baxter's slow nod of understanding, Jeff Porcaro's three step plan to seduce Michael McDonald and the rage, passion and wild unkempt mane of John Oates.
I second the call for Seals and Croft (and Player, the Little River Band and "Games People Play" by the Spinners). If I was on the correct coast I would beesech you to let me play Jim Seals or...guy from Player...in an upcoming installment.
Air Supply needs to be in there somewhere don't they? Were they not the kings of Yacht Rock?
Cetera's savage beating at the hands of Oates notwithstanding, 80's Chicago should be featured prominently as well.
This music is brilliant, and your films are obviously a labor of love. Keep it up.
― Ash (ashbyman), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Here's my digital signature saying "this is a free idea to be used by the makers of yacht rock at their own will, although no offense taken if used, rejected, abused, or otherwise. :) "
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
More Pablo Cruise, please!
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― katrina vanden roffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― iDonut B4 x86 (donut), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 05:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 19 November 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 19 November 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 19 November 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 19 November 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 19 November 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 19 November 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Petroski (petroski), Sunday, 20 November 2005 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Once you actually read the lyrics to What a Fool Believes, you can understand its shittiness in totally new ways.
― footlog, Sunday, 20 November 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brandon Mitchell (A.H.), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 07:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
at the Southside Lounge
41 Broadway (Wythe & Kent Sts.)
Williamsburg, Brooklyn 11211
An Evening of Yacht Rock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacht_rock
with Tedward
Starts at 10PM
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Episode 1 Michael McDonald-Sweet Freedom George Benson-Breezin' Loggins & Messina-Sailin the wind Kenny Loggins-Whenever I call You Friend Doobie Brothers-What a Fool Believes Doobie Brothers-Sweet Feelin' Doobie Brothers-You Never Change Hall and Oates-Alley Katz Kenny Loggins - What a fool Believes
Episode 2 Michael McDonald-Sweet Freedom Steely Dan: Peg Doobie Brothers - What a fool believes Hall and Oates-Sara Smile Hall and Oates-Portable Radio Kenny Loggins-This is It Kenny Loggins-Love has come of age Christopher Cross-Sailing
Episode 3 Michael McDonald-Sweet Freedom Bad Caddyshack Theme - Rick Johnson Steely Dan-King of the World Kenny Loggins- This is it (Live) Steely Dan-Time Out of Mind Kenny Loggins - Keep the Fire Doobie Brothers-How do the Fools Survive Journey - Lights Journey - Anyway you want it Steely Dan - Kid Charlamagne Kenny Loggins-I'm Alright
Episode 4 Something by Benetictine Monks Michael McDonald-Sweet Freedom Toto-Hold the Line Toto-I Won't Hold You Back Toto-Make Believe Doobie Brothers - What a Fool Believes Doobie Brothers - You Never Change Christopher Cross-Ride the Wind Loggins & Messina - Sailing the wind Kenny Loggins/Steve Perry-Don't Fight it Michael McDonald-Love Lies Toto-I'll supply the Love Toto-Rosanna
Episode 5 Samuel Barber- Adagio for Strings Michael McDonald-Sweet Freedom Michael McDonald - Believe in It Michael Jackson - Beat it Michael Jackson - Thriller Kenny Loggins - I Gotta Try Michael McDonald - I Gotta Try Christopher Cross - Sailing Kenny Loggins - This is it Van Halen - Eruption Michael Jackson - Human Nature
― Hollywood Steve (stoofid), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 04:15 (eighteen years ago) link
The acting is horrible, though. I know it's "supposed to be," but to me it's just sort of embarrassing. Keep trying, I guess, or get people who can act, seriously!
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― petesmith (plsmith), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 06:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brandon Mitchell (A.H.), Sunday, 8 January 2006 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 8 January 2006 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 8 January 2006 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 8 January 2006 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link
me = worst friend ever. yacht rock = proof that the world is way too small.
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― def zep (calstars), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
i am thinking of doing an official screening out here.
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
He also wants me to suggest, in case Hollywood Steve and company are still in our harbor, that an episode attempt to explain the Doobies' "Real Love," released concurrently with McDonald's solo album and yet featuring essentially no Doobie contribution. My brother avers that it's the smoothest thing McDonald has in fact ever recorded. Was it his payoff to the Doobs to let him leave the band? Or did being with the band provide some sort of restraining focus that enabled McDonald to achieve his greatest heights?
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― C.D., Friday, 27 January 2006 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― strategically dipped below one eye, Saturday, 28 January 2006 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 28 January 2006 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 30 January 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― naus (Robert T), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom iNut (donut), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Zwan (miccio), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Lest we forget
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/Sprad/jethrotull2.jpg
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 6 February 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 6 February 2006 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Thanks a fucking lot -- Mayor Bloomberg just approved the rezoning for this. Your so-called hipsters are about to become as scarce as Indians at Jamestown settlement. Then you're fucked, because we invented everything, including drinking.
Hmm, ironic casino...note to self, call gaming commission.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link
BTW, since it was expressed in a different thread: HOLLYWOOD STEVE FOR EMP KEYNOTE!
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Monday, 27 February 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 27 February 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Monday, 27 February 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Monday, 27 February 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
A task for y'all in cyberspace: my brother, an original-wave Yacht Rock devotee, wants me to see if I can track down the SCTV sketch referred to in Yacht Rock 4. Does anyone happen to have this lying around or something?
Episode 84, Volume One Disc Three of the DVDs, same episode as the Poocharé All Meat Dog Food commercial and the first Mrs Falbo's Tiny Town.
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 27 February 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 27 February 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Da Na Not! (donut), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Da Na Not! (donut), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link
"See, I hit him on accident, but then I kidnapped him ON PURPOSE."
― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― team jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― team jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― team jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― regular roundups (Dave M), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Justin, Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Any chance of a tracklisting for episodes 6, 7, 8?
― Ewan, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 09:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 09:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― erklie (erklie), Thursday, 30 March 2006 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― m.c. (clikatowi), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Not anymore.
― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― m.c. (clikatowi), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link
It ain't bad, but with the last few installments, Yacht Rock seems to be in a pattern of alternating between episodes in its "classic" format (lots of different bands, crammed full of small jokes) and curious side tangents (the Jethro Tull thing, Dr. Dre). I definitely enjoy the classic ones (1-5, 8) the best, but I kind of like that they do keep indulging in these footnote-like episodes whose sole purpose is to illuminate deliciously minor pieces of Yacht trivia. That's an ILMy spirit that I can't hate even if it makes me fear for the show's ratings survival.
I still REALLY REALLY want to see a story where Rosanna Arquette runs off with Peter Gabriel, finding his freakish antics and experimental music a refreshing change after all the smooth. Unfortunately, his search for jagged new world music sounds leads them on a trip to Africa, where he's so moved that he composes the brilliantly yacht-y "In Your Eyes." Just as Rosanna is moved to doubt that Peter is the man she thought he was, Toto (who have been following sneakily the whole time) unleash "Africa," and Rosanna realizes where she really belongs.
JD Ryznar, if you're reading this, please steal my idea. And also know that thanks to Yacht Rock, I now own and love Toto I and IV, as well as X-Static by Hall & Oates. Y'all rock.
Discussion topic for the rest of us: favorite moment/character in Yacht Rock? I think Loggins steals every scene he's in, with his smugly satisfied "I'm Alright" and his unbelievably nuanced lip-synch for "Don't Fight It" taking the cake.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Stockholm syndrome, this.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yacht_rock
― mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 2 June 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― ((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Hard PlaceTotally RaddJosh Ottumwith DJ oonce oonce of Tigerbeat6 Records
155 Fell St. At Van Ness8 p.m.$8Advance tix available at www.virtuous.com
JOSH OTTUM 9:00Haven't heard of Josh Ottum? You will. Often featuring members ofCrystal Skulls and Sufjan Stevens' band, this delightful emo-synthoutfit will be releasing an album on Millpond this Fall. Expectsongs that make you think of looking at a warm cabin on ChristmasEve while you're stuck out in the snow...but you're with all yourbest friends and you have big bottle of whiskey...so everything'scool. CAN BE CLASSIFIED AS YACHT ROCK (Steely Dan, Hall & Oates)with a big emphasis on love, hope, fear and possibility (The BeachBoys, The Flaming Lips).
www.myspace.com/joshottumwww.millpondrecords.com
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 June 2006 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Ironic, considering that "What a Fool Believes," perhaps the epitome of yacht rock, is all about NO love, NO hope, NO fear, and NO possibility.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 19 June 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 19 June 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.sdcitybeat.com/article.php?id=4456
― tylero (tylero), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Monday, 19 June 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Sail on, sailor
― first-time caller, long-time listener (first time caller, long-time l), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 02:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― mts (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 03:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyway, though. Yacht Rock despite a few dud moments and genuinely bewildering directions (how did they survive the Jethro Tull episode?) has made its mark; the term will serve (with or without a Wiki entry), and I'll be confusing people by quoting it for years to come.
Viva la portable radio.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 03:35 (seventeen years ago) link
I also never understood why they never brought Stevie Nicks into the mix.
Also, I'm working on a Yacht Rock story and I came across some interesting tangenital YR trivia: When Becker and Fagen were in a pre-Steely Dan band called the Leather Canary, their drummer was Chevy Chase.
― novamax (novamax), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Honestly, and I'm definitely to blame partially for this, I think the creators got a bit sick of the fans proposing so many ideas for future episodes. At that point, the show pretty much accomplished its goal.. when fans can write a screenplay for a future episode given his/her knowledge of the family of bands in question.
Also, it was a matter of time before some crazy fan would try to sue the creators for "ripping off" an idea, when there's only so many quasi-real-life scenarios you can concoct involving Michael McDonald anyway that it would be inevitable. (yeah, even if the show was non-profit, I wouldn't put it past somebody out there to try to sue, regardless, in such a scenario.)
― San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyone check out the rest of Channel 101's shows? Is there an ILE thread about that? Obviously there's a pretty low S:D ratio, but I've had a lot of laughs from "McCourt's In Session," and this month's frontrunner, "Chad Vader" gets tremendous laughs out of a premise that sounds doomed when you try to explain it to somebody.
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link
As for other Channel 101 stuff, Thriller Chiller Theater is pretty damn funny. (Noone else seemed to think so, though, as there is only one episode.)
― first-time caller, long-time listener (first time caller, long-time l), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm more saddened that Pablo Cruise never made an appearance. I guess no one knew what they look or act like. Myself included.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 29 June 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ricki Belloni (Pangolino 3), Thursday, 29 June 2006 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.last.fm/tag/yacht%20rock
― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Friday, 30 June 2006 07:44 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.houstonpress.com/blogs/?p=40#more-40
― (Ex-)Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 28 August 2006 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link
And sadly, it's no longer tagged for deletion on the basis of being a neologism
― PappaWheelie, Olives, Red Wine, Coffee, Scotch, and Me (PappaWheelie 2), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 28 August 2006 20:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― PappaWheelie, Olives, Red Wine, Coffee, Scotch, and Me (PappaWheelie 2), Monday, 28 August 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 28 August 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― rchinn (rchinn), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.timelife.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=9572&
― Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Dusty Baker Selection (Charles McCain), Friday, 17 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Jaxon when is the next Yacht Rocky night in SF? I need some advance notice so I can dress for success and also buy a Yacht.
― The Macallan 18 Year, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I just saw Hollywood Steve playing a huge nerd (who knew!) in a Boost Mobile phone commercial.
this thread is now the 'hollywood steve spottings' thread.
― sous les paves, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link
from wiki Episode XI Estimated release date - Dec 27, 2007
DON'T TEASE ME, BRO
― gershy, Friday, 28 December 2007 07:49 (sixteen years ago) link
from wiki
Episode XI Estimated release date - Dec 27, 2007
-- gershy, Friday, 28 December 2007 07:49 (19 minutes ago) Link
they had an event at the knitting factory nyc tonight; maybe it premiered there? the event listing is pretty ambiguous as to whether there is actually an episode 11 though
― Nick Minichino, Friday, 28 December 2007 08:12 (sixteen years ago) link
They should make more. Seems like there's we're definitely an audience for this.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 28 December 2007 08:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Nothing on the website yet. Anyone catch Ryznar and Hollywood Steve on VH1's 100 greatest songs of the 90s?
― calstars, Friday, 28 December 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I was thinking about to go to NYC for that party tonight but, eh. I do hope they put up a new episode though.
― Mr. Goodman, Friday, 28 December 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
11 is up: http://www.channel101.com/shows/show.php?show_id=152
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 28 January 2008 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link
It's pretty epic. 'ya mo.k. to drive?'
― sous les paves, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 08:20 (sixteen years ago) link
"mellow, but not smooth..."
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 08:40 (sixteen years ago) link
hollywood steve lost a lot of weight
― gershy, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 08:41 (sixteen years ago) link
"mellow, but not smooth" is definitely the breakout quote
― kenan, Thursday, 31 January 2008 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link
"Those weren't people James Ingram, those were Jimmy Buffett fans." "How about a Me.L.T.?"
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 31 January 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link
JD Ryznar, thank you for bringing back Yacht Rock and Hunter Stair.
― felicity, Monday, 4 February 2008 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link
i now have a yacht rock edit of i can't go for that by hall and oates track on constant loop.
― mark e, Friday, 27 February 2009 09:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Mark, please share it!
― kaiser, Friday, 27 February 2009 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link
i already have, but as blog-plugs are frowned upon, here it is.
― mark e, Friday, 27 February 2009 09:57 (fifteen years ago) link
cheers Mark!
here's another one.
less yacht but always disco!
― kaiser, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link
not really sure that edit adds anything to the original (get the 12" extended mix for some extra smooth pleasure).
― baaderonixx, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link
just draws it out a little really. hit the spot on a sunny frday morning, much to my surprise.also, didn't think/hoped i'd see the "yacht rock" term being used again.
― mark e, Friday, 27 February 2009 10:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Yach Rock re-revival is the new thing for 2009
― baaderonixx, Friday, 27 February 2009 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link
For this buzz about yacht rock we need to say thanks to Johnno Burgess and his podcast on RA.
― kaiser, Friday, 27 February 2009 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Errrr...
― Matt OCD (Raw Patrick), Saturday, 28 February 2009 11:49 (fifteen years ago) link
i just noticed for the first time yesterday that the Yacht Rock dude who played Michael McDonald (i think?) posted on this thread. i saw the same dude a few years ago in my local supermarket
― velko, Saturday, 28 February 2009 12:26 (fifteen years ago) link
how come their Dr. Dre looks and sounds like Ja Rule?
― snoop dyao double-g (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 06:18 (thirteen years ago) link
last one?
http://www.channel101.com/shows/view.php?media_id=3003
― confederacy-themed bumper sticker enthusiast (will), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
MORE DISCUSSION OF YACHT ROCK -- AND/OR YACHT ROCK EDITS OF OLD SONGS -- PLEASE.
where do i (legally) find these edits? i'd happily buy them.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link
That was fun.
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
RIP Hollywood Steve ;_;
― you might be a goon but what's a goon to a viking? (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
but Spencer otm
so who killed Koko?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 6 May 2010 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha, I don't know if my review earns an otm!
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 6 May 2010 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link
New yacht rock = made my week/month
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 6 May 2010 08:15 (thirteen years ago) link
An ex-girlfriend of mine used to refer to taking a shit as "doing a Kenny Loggins." You know, sometimes you look back on life and rue the ones that got away...
― Position Position, Thursday, 6 May 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Just discovered this series, which is brilliant (and the music is also good as long as it's in the 70s. AOR is one musical genre that got considerably worse in the 80s than in the 70s). Sadly no more episodes, unless the ghost of Hollywood Steve turns up with some story about the comebacks of Steely Dan and The Eagles in the 00s (the rest of the series' main acts haven't had hits for over 20 years).
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 27 September 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
This should come back
― tarping, Thursday, 23 May 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link
PBS is keeping the flame right now with FOREIGNER,PETER FRAMPTON,CHICAGOcheck it out
― Sébastien, Thursday, 1 May 2014 05:04 (nine years ago) link
now for the first time ever, the best of soft rock bestofsoftrock.come 150 original soft rock hits
― Sébastien, Thursday, 1 May 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link
"Tell him you weren't foolin' "
You belong to me has a special place to me in the YR canon
― cal (calstars), Sunday, 4 May 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link
This is great:
http://www.allmusic.com/blog/post/allmusic-s-yacht-rock
― Tim F, Thursday, 26 June 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
spotify playlist too, yesss
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 26 June 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
only care about andy k's tbr
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 26 June 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link
pretty sure i saw an advert on tv recently about a yacht rock compilation.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 June 2014 18:57 (nine years ago) link
could have been this ..
http://direct.asda.com/Yacht-Rock---CD/003742082,default,pd.html
― mark e, Thursday, 26 June 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
would poll
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
Or perhaps it was this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHg-m-2ahCc
― MarkoP, Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
my wife made me watch that a few weeks ago
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 June 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
"Yacht Soul"?
― calstars, Friday, 27 June 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link
sounds great
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 27 June 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/d5YC2Cw.jpg
― calstars, Friday, 27 June 2014 00:48 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/WhGNo3D.jpg
― calstars, Friday, 27 June 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link
Hey Loggins, this is Michael McDonald. Do you want to come over? James Ingram and I are wasted and writing smooth music.
― calstars, Friday, 27 June 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link
i thought the heart of the difference between soft rock and yacht rock was that the former was a melancholic and wistful or even maudlin clinging on to the hippie dream that said a peaceful world could exist here and now or sometime soon (setting off to look for america, me and you and a dog named boo loving and living off the land, making love in a chevy van, the open road and possibilities) and the latter was a hedonistic escape in response to the unease and ennui following the death of that dream making the here and now something uninhabitable (running off to a tropical island or out to the open sea or into the dark of night, stealing away to somewhere else).
― slugbuggy, Friday, 27 June 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link
Good post. I think sorting out the various strands of post-hippie dreams in 70s smooth music of all shades would be really interesting. Not sure how much the first is maudlin, vs. just continuing, perhaps with a looming sense of (tragic) impossibility, or a revision of priorities: yes to peace for you and me and us, but peace for everybody may not yet be. And then with yacht-rock the sense is really more escape for me and mine. Escape on the sea rather than in a new society, or escape into the lushness of the sound itself. But this would have to be really complicated by, what did people listen to this music for (late night drives? making out? unwinding after a long day at the factory?) that may not relate directly to the artists, or their images as broadcast, or their images as parodied in Yacht Rock.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
Whatever garbled story I'm telling there, I think "Please Come To Boston" is some kind of equally incoherent hinge: she's not down for living in his scrubby bohemian apartment and selling paintings on the street, or overlooking silent valleys in Colorado... but each other, they need each other anyway.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 27 June 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGVibKwxl78
― rushomancy, Saturday, 28 June 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/sail-away-the-oral-history-of-yacht-rock-20150626
― schwantz, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
The Yacht Rock guys have a podcast: "Beyond Yacht Rock"
http://www.feralaudio.com/show/beyond-yacht-rock/
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Friday, 29 January 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link
oh cool
― calstars, Friday, 29 January 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
I am working my way through these and enjoying them.
I made my own gigantic yacht mix on Spotify, it's my personal take on the genre, I put some jazz and r&b on it for a real 70's yacht party feel.
My grandma worked at a yacht club on Lake Michigan, and one thing no one points out as an influence is cocaine. On the Great Lakes, it was and is marijuana, though. Kept that in mind while making my mixes.
― Fake Sam's Club (I M Losted), Monday, 1 February 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link
I'm loving this comp right now. One or two duds, but the ratio of great to meh is very high for a comp of this sort. The liner notes talk a lot about the Doobie Brothers, who I've always been indifferent to, but now I'm thinking I need to reevaluate the Doobies (whose only songs I know are the classic rock radio hits). The liners also talk a lot about people like James Taylor, but I'm hearing just as much Steely Dan, Bob Welch, John Lennon and Hall & Oates in here, and a lot less sensitive white guy with a Martin that I feared / was led to believe. Shit's funky!
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
this is good stuff
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
That looks hella fun.
Been jamming Universal Cave's Soft Rock For Hard Times Vol. 1 mix lately, solid jam after solid jam
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
the universal cave series led me to these two compilations called "americana: rock your soul", which is a weird name but man this is some primo soft rock shit. soft rock lovers should make a beeline for it.
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link
Yes, Yes, Yes...No, No, No
― groovypanda, Friday, 19 May 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link
Numero Group have also created a Yacht Rock playlist on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/user/numerogroup/playlist/1SOw4LySLMLAFTcXx4qTLW
― Jeff W, Friday, 19 May 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link
man i wish there was a way to see a spotify playlist without creating an account. i don't want to listen to it, just see what's on it!
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Friday, 19 May 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
The BYR guys are policing the borders of yacht rock pretty hardcore these days - no smooth jazz/jazz fusion, nothing proggy or sophisto-pop sounding, nothing too disco or AM gold. They focus a lot on a stable of session musicians - Jay Gradon, David Foster, Paulinho da Costa, Michael Boddicker, Victor Feldman - which paints an interesting picture but also disencourages finding interesting things in the same vein/spirit coming from elswhere.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 20 May 2017 08:52 (six years ago) link
that's a shame. the second UK record has some pretty swell yachty vibes at times (like on "rendezvous 6:02"). genre purism does nobody any favours.
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 May 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
'policing the borders of yacht rock' XD
― flopson, Saturday, 20 May 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I mean it's half-joking (as I guess was their coinage of the term in the first place), but kinda limiting.
That being said, they do spread out sometimes:Yacht Soul - http://www.yachtrock.com/podcast/2016/10/20/yacht-soulSouthern yacht - http://www.feralaudio.com/60-southern-yacht/
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 20 May 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link
If you want a picture of what they've deemed Yacht, you can look at their Yachtski Scale, where anything scoring 50 or above is deemed as "Yacht":http://www.yachtrock.com/yacht-or-nyacht-jay-gradient/
― MarkoP, Saturday, 20 May 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
Nah it's cool, I see what they're getting at. Honing in on specific sessioneers makes it way more interesting and meaningful. You can still listen to sophistipop etc, they're not taking that music away from you. Make your own damn reality
― brimstead, Saturday, 20 May 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/XCz4ufL.jpg
― calstars, Sunday, 31 December 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
once you get that taste...it's like you're a pilot...you're in trouble...you gotta fly..you gotta keep flying...
― calstars, Sunday, 31 December 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link
and you can tell your little friends in TOTO
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 31 December 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link
I'm glad I've never used this term in any context.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 December 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link
^cake hunt
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 31 December 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link
Just found the 2 part episode from the show Documentary Now! called "Gentle and Soft: The Story of the Blue Jean Committee" and loved it.
Could not find any place to discus this show/episode and really kinda think it is a sequel/tip of the hat to Yacht Rock and things like the Eagles documentary.
I thought it was really good. It all looked great and the Blue Jean Committee music is quite well done.
― earlnash, Monday, 23 April 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
soft is not smooth, and the blue jean committee is more like bread or seals and crofts than Toto or Loggins
― calstars, Monday, 23 April 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link
You have Loggins, Hall and McDonald with parts in the BJC, which I thought was a fun coincidence. Daryl Hall gets one of the best lines in the movie.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
I've seen a listing for a cover band locally that does yacht rock called Yachtly Crew.
― nickn, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
little feat is yacht rock i am not accepting questions at this time
― mark s, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link
yachts (on the bayou) rock
― . (Michael B), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 11:56 (five years ago) link
I wonder which song in particular Mark is thinking of
― calstars, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link
little feet is not yacht rock get a grip
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
"dixie chicken" could segue nicely into "the pina colada song"
― . (Michael B), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link
pina colada song is not yacht rock
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
The NY-based yacht rock band A.M. Gold just played my little Jersey town square last night.
The rather front-loaded set list:
Takin' It to the StreetsRide Like the WindReelin' in the YearsBrandyBaby Come BackWhat a Fool BelievesSteal AwayI Can't Go For That (No Can Do)PegEscape (The Pina Colada Song)Baker StreetManeaterWho Can It Be NowRosannaCareless WhisperFootlooseLittle Red CorvettePrivate EyesWake Me Up Before You Go-GoAll Night LongThe Power of LoveYou Make My Dreams
OK, which song was more out of place, "Little Red Corvette" or "Wake Me Up"?
"What a Fool Believes" into "Steal Away" make it obvious just how much "Steal" is a pale rewrite of "Fool."
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 24 August 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link
Local amateur musicians playing live through shitty PA systems aping professional musicians in million dollar studios is one of the hardest things for me to listen to. Ymmv
― calstars, Friday, 24 August 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link
captain beefheart: yacht rock
― mark s, Monday, 24 December 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfX5Ymxf4Rg
― errang (rushomancy), Monday, 24 December 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
I rewatched all of Yacht Rock a couple months back. Justin Roiland's voice really jumps out now, after Rick and Morty. This is one of my favorite bits I completely forgot about: https://youtu.be/jGwJPqgA3N4
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 25 December 2018 04:01 (five years ago) link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p079rws8?fbclid=IwAR0yN5ALfYSp0hLnSKQeZHQInSwvfMLbEQGWjiun-RnD8mdMK4hYXMZHLr4
No info on when it's gonna air tho
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 27 May 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
That looks sexy
― calstars, Monday, 27 May 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link
Starts this Friday on BBC4
― groovypanda, Monday, 10 June 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link
― calstars, Monday, 10 June 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
There are plenty of gigantic Yacht Rock playlists out there, but mine is - I believe - the first one curated to present a (roughly) chronological history of the genre. Please enjoy YACHT ROCK: A PURIST'S HISTORY and let it soothe your troubled soulhttps://t.co/tZOWyTamHB— Hollywood Steve (@hollywoodsteveh) April 3, 2020
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link
these guys have a discord now and JD will be spinning an hour of yacht at 10 PM EST
― calstars, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:17 (four years ago) link
pablo cruise hits mini poll: "love will find a way," "whatcha gonna do" or "find your place in the sun." I'm going with whatcha gonna do.
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 05:18 (four years ago) link
that Hollywood Steve playlist is great, I listen to it a lot
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 05:26 (four years ago) link
Many things, Richard. 1) I coined the term yacht rock. https://t.co/lDhhay3TQ8— JD Ryznar (@JDRyznar) August 3, 2020
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, 6 August 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link
These guys have been touring the country (but mainly gigged heavily in Atlanta) since 2006.
https://www.yachtrockrevue.com
― Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 August 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
That JD Ryzar thread just posted specifically calls Yacht Rock Revue out as a "shitty cover band" that "dragged the term through the mud".
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 August 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
lol JD seems angry because...people aren't defining Yacht Rock the way he imagined. Yacht Rock Revue has been incredibly successful, which is probably another reason JD is mad. So really, he's mad that most people don't agree with him.
― Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 August 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
i'm wondering if the guy who coined the term "zolo" gets this mad about people he doesn't like being characterized as "zolo"
i can totally see it, some impassioned rant about how for god's sake "dog police" are not zolo and it is a total perversion of what the true spirit of zolo is supposed to stand for
or maybe he's just down for whatever, who knows
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 August 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
― Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Thursday, August 6, 2020 10:56 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
he created the term! then people took the term and expanded it to be meaningless (what yacht rock revue or the Sirius station term yacht rock is just any 70s or early 80s soft rock of any and all varieties, which is meaningless).
he also has had personal tragedy in his life (his wife died of cancer) and probably spends more time being defensive on twitter about a term he created than he might if things were going better for him in his life
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 6 August 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
On a happier note, Chris Molanphy's latest episode of Hit Parade is about yacht rock (and very much comes down on JD's side) -- subscription only but it's worth it, 35 bucks for the entire year of Slate's general collection of things.
https://slate.com/podcasts/hit-parade/2020/07/yacht-rock-was-smooth-music-played-by-70s-80s-studio-pros
And inspired by that, I wrote this:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/covid-coping-40130176
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 August 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
He has also a subtle sense of humor about it which can be missed at first glance if you’re not really tuned into his groove
― calstars, Thursday, 6 August 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
he also has had personal tragedy in his life (his wife died of cancer)
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver)
has he adopted a meat-only diet
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 August 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
I didn't see that JD thread as angry - he was just correcting Richard Marx on his assumption that it was a derogatory term and also pointing out that it's not just a catch all for soft rock in general
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, 6 August 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
I didn't know I wanted this to happen.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 6 August 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
He created the term, I get it. Calling some band he's probably never listed to "a shitty cover band" because they don't play his ordained playlist is just petty.
I don't think Twitter or the Internet in general is very forgiving for being a dick based on personal tragedies.
― Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Friday, 7 August 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
he's not really the one being a dick
They’re not respectful of the music. They were fans of the webshow and trademarked the term out from under us. Nick, the leader, said in an interview that he doesn’t even like yacht rock. Half of their set isn’t even yacht rock music.— JD Ryznar (@JDRyznar) August 3, 2020
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 August 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link
He has listened to them and even had them on the Beyond Yacht Rock podcast. I think he even went to one of their concerts at one point.
― MarkoP, Friday, 7 August 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link
Come hang out on the discordhttps://discord.gg/sZXXWR
― calstars, Friday, 7 August 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link
JD enjoys being the Supreme Leader of What Yacht Rock Music Really Is and he will not have anyone telling him what it is.
"trademarked the term out from under us" is an absolute classic. Dude needs a better lawyer.
― Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Friday, 7 August 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, August 6, 2020 2:53 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
this, and also calstars otm
seeing this as some form of gatekeeping is just really missing the point
― budo jeru, Friday, 7 August 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
I’m totally in favors of being a serious nerd about this, its hella lame when ppl are all “billy joel! billy ocean! I love Yacht rock! Lolololol”
― brimstead, Friday, 7 August 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link
Yes
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 August 2020 03:28 (three years ago) link
I suppose you could theoretically say there's a kind of conflation happening there that's equivalent to pretty much tagging everyone over a certain age as boomers.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 August 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link
had no idea Yacht Rock lifers would have such a Manowar-ish attitude towards the posers in their scene
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link
"do u even know Michael McDonald's eldest's child's name is??? do u?"
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 04:43 (three years ago) link
― brimstead, Thursday, August 6, 2020 11:28 PM bookmarkflaglink
I had a friend bragging that she finally liked hair metal and then announced the band she liked was REO Speedwagon
o_o
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link
She couldn't fight that feeling any more!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 August 2020 04:52 (three years ago) link
idk man, definitions / conceptions of musical genres can (and should) change over time, you just gotta accept it
just gotta roll with the changes
― budo jeru, Friday, 7 August 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link
nicely done
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 05:09 (three years ago) link
kev’s mullet is the bridge between speedwagon & metal
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 August 2020 06:38 (three years ago) link
"Ridin' The Storm Out" is borderline metal. Kevin Cronin's scat singing on "157 Riverside Avenue" from the same live album most assuredly is not.
― henry s, Friday, 7 August 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link
Maybe we need a hardcore yacht rock term like hardcore punk to denote a purist, extremist version of the genre, with less purist versions emanating out like peaceful, gentle waves on a tasty Saturday afternoon.
― Mom jokes are his way of showing affection (to your mom) (PBKR), Friday, 7 August 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link
Heard it from a friend whoFinally liked hair metal
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 August 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link
yacht rock shouldn't have gatekeepers, it should have harbour masters instead
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Friday, 7 August 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link
Calling some band he's probably never listed
lol they did a concert together! You're super wrong on this thread.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 7 August 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal)
well, looking at REO Speedwagon as a producer's band, wondering what the board's take on Fortune's S/T from '85, produced by Kevin Beamish, is. I feel like that album is more hard-edged than the REO Speedwagon stuff I've heard. Honestly one of the chief things that differentiates "hair metal" from other forms of metal to me is its concern for the sort of production values espoused by "yacht rock" or "AOR", values which have, I would argue, essential continuity with later forms of chart music, and which certainly are diametrically opposed to the production values espoused by TRVE CVLT metal. It's probably a cliche by now to point out that Max Martin got his start in hair metal...
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
some guy on rym has actually made a yacht metal list:
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/PhantomOTO/yacht_metal/
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
incidentally i note that fortune did put out a reunion album last year - beamish appears to now be retired and isn't involved, but i'm surprised at how much i am enjoying it, even if the production lacks the full crispness and sheen Beamish brought to it. still a marked improvement over the boom box demos on their "limited edition prerelease ep" from '17. the idea of shittily recorded (i'm not talking "lo-fi", these are really just abominably shitty recordings) AOR songs is conceptually fascinating but actually listening to them is about as recommended as drinking Kykeon is.
I love the ethos of present-day AOR albums. They're completely unironic and sincere (or at least _pass_ for unironic and sincere) in a way that seems more or less impossible for "yacht rock" these days. This is exemplified by the cover, which is both a call-back to the first album cover - which isn't universally known, but certainly will be familiar to anybody listening to their second album - and an encapsulation of AOR's ethos. Whereas the original album's cover featured a gloved, elegant female hand (possibly _not_ an overt reference to "smell the glove", but I find it impossible to not think of that Spinal Tap record) opening a safe, the second album's cover features the same female hand, this time wearing an even more ridiculously over-the-top bracelet, adjusting the dials on a pre-amp. What a perfect encapsulation of the AOR ethos!
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
I find it amusing we're talking about REO Speedwagon in this thread when a friend showed me this compilation the other day:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Now-Thats-What-I-Call-Yacht-Rock-2/release/15457853
― MarkoP, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
― Boris the Spreader (NickB)
but is there a yacht prog list? speaking as a lady who far prefers "danger money" to uk's self-titled, i'd love to hear more music with that vibe
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link
I was going to say "is there Yacht hip hop" but I remembered Magna Carta Holy Grail came out years ago
― popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link
@ Kate - fair point on the production side of things. The original Yacht Rock series (in one of its later and somewhat stretched-thin episodes), went to some lengths to make sure the public understood that Ted Templeman produced basically the entire discographies of both the Doobie Brothers and Roth-era Van Halen.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 August 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link
― calstars, Friday, 7 August 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
george duke sample on that too
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Friday, 7 August 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
wait, what am i saying? it's bob james
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Friday, 7 August 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link
magna carta doesn't feel yacht to me, other than he's richLarry June had v yacht rap vibeshttps://youtu.be/Wy1D7FhoJes
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 August 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
― Doctor Casino
my favorite ted templeman story is that captain beefheart specifically hired him in the hopes that he could do something like "observatory crest" and what came out instead was "big eyed beans from venus". oh my oh my.
"observatory crest" is quality yacht rock mind
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 7 August 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
the first “yacht rock” thing I saw made fun of hall & Oates “portable radio”, it was extremely not funny
― brimstead, Friday, 7 August 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
my partner saw REO perform in between Tesla and Def Leppard at some winery a few years ago. sounded like a pretty sad scene (def leppard excepted)
― brimstead, Friday, 7 August 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
― calstars, Friday, 7 August 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
I'm playing drums for a friend's mom's surprise 60th birthday party this summer, and this is the set list:
Freedom at Midnight - David Benoit6-String Poet - David BenoitThe Way It Is - Bruce HornsbyPeg - Steely DanDo I Do - Stevie WonderWhat a fool believes - Doobie BrosVirtual Insanity - JamiroquaiGot To Get You Into My Life - Earth Wind and FireBack Pocket - VulfpeckHigher Love - Steve WinwoodDon’t Stop Til You Get Enough - MJKing of Wishful Thinking - Go West
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 June 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link
the Slate “Hit Parade” podcast episode about Yacht Rock is out from behind the paywall - Ned posted about it way upthreadIt’s pretty great. Gives a good breakdown of Ryznar & gang’s criteria as well as some chart history of some of the big names — a good refresher if you listened to the showit made me go back & listen to old eps real talk though- i avoided the podcast for a long time because it pissed me off that coworkers would say “oh my favorite genre is yacht rock” and talk about seals & croft and i’d get all angry-kermit-the-frog like “aaagh seals & croft isnt even yacht rock! also its not a real genre its made up by writers! you just dont want to say you like adult contemporary!” but im ok now lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link
i now appreciate how music-nerdy it is, and that it’s designed to alienate casual music fans in a way that morbidly delights me
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link
Hate to break it you veg but Seals and Crofts are on the boat
― calstars, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 03:03 (two years ago) link
Bread has to be considered 'proto-yacht rock' as much as the Stooges are 'proto-punk' as "Baby I'm a Want You" definitely has the smoothe.
Just the title alone has given me chuckles since I was a teenager.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link
xpost doh
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link
i’m very into the steve lukather/toto of it all, tbh
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link
does 'yacht rock' alienate casual music listeners? the adult contemporary station in my city does a yacht rock specialty program every saturday night (w/ that specific branding) and given that it's not a very adventurous station otherwise i have to assume it's far from the only one
― dyl, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link
Yacht rock is meant to alienate people that do not own a yacht.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 04:00 (two years ago) link
i didnt mean the broad genre as it exists out in the world -i meant the ryznar group & the podcast & the detailed criteria of why things are or are not yacht rock
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 04:07 (two years ago) link
ah yeah fair enough, i find all that pretty alienating myself
― dyl, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 04:30 (two years ago) link
:D
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 04:45 (two years ago) link
as long as it alienates parrotheads, thats the most important thing
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
Do I Do - Stevie WonderVirtual Insanity - JamiroquaiDon’t Stop Til You Get Enough - MJ
If even these are yacht rock, I've been yacht rocking since before yachts rocked.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
the problem with the expansive "Yacht rock" playlists and Sirius channels is that they want to include mostly big hits, and many of the most yachty songs were minor hits, non-hits, or deep cuts.
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 31 August 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
I mean I guess they technically made it onto the boat with a couple later songs, but "Summer Breeze" is decidedly marina rock, nyacht yacht!
I really dug the podcast eps where they would define other new genres, like divorcecore and what have you. Was kind of bummed when that concept eventually fell by the wayside.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link
Yeah, The divorcecore one is especially great, I’ve revisited that one several times.
― calstars, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
the best yacht rock is basically just white dudes doing r&b y/n
― brimstead, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
already regret that post lolI just remember when allMusic had some “soft rock” feature and Andy kellman’s list was just cool smooth 70s soul records
― brimstead, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
xpost calstars thats a great onepvmic but my fave is the bald metal episode, i freakin love almost every song in that top 10
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 02:23 (two years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6kVRZHsbV6LZEBiqzSzFvq?si=Y0GJdSBsRJW-uxRtzTtQCQ&dl_branch=1The only reason to pay for Spotify
― calstars, Monday, 6 September 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link
Yeah the Random Genres I Made Up episodes were incredible podcasts and the most ILM-y podcast I've come across to date. Shame they had to stop under the circumstances they did. Apparently they have some new stuff paywalled but DJ sets isn't really what I want from them.
― I have no couch and I must stream (NotEnough), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 12:27 (two years ago) link
Michael McDonald performing on 'Soul Train' in 1982 pic.twitter.com/tPm6qOvwIq— Barney Hurley (@barneyhurley1) September 10, 2021
― calstars, Friday, 10 September 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link
Where do you go to buy jackets like that in 1982?
― calstars, Friday, 10 September 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link
literally everywhere iirc
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 September 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link
^^Reagan's Finest Executive Order
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 September 2021 23:51 (two years ago) link
i've read where ppl say eagles are not yacht. the long run singles sorta fell like yacht in that they all have that miserablist sense of what was lost being gone forever, so they're kinda kinfolk in spirit but lack the essential denialism of escape through hedonistic pursuits. yacht seems peppy and up and slick but what's the impetus? pushing away realty, what a fool believe. yacht is the mellow-presenting counterpart of disco, which goes hard and don't mince words: last dance, last chance, because the end of history. eagles are just full of gripes, and i can't tell you why.
anyway.
if my thesis is that soft rock is warm, open, even in its most melancholic aspects, yacht is closed off, escapist, avoiding the topic re: love and america and the future, and yada yada, hotel california and maybe rumours are critical to the genre because they function as the line of demarcation between soft and yacht in pop, even if they're not included in the yacht canon proper. they're the open declaration of bad vibes being the status quo that yacht is running away from. eagles say you can never leave, that's not yacht but yacht tries anyhoo. the chain is broken but we can still share the night together, for whatever that's worth.
nb i'm off a tangent that extends beyond the original parameters of the toto/ loggins/ cross/ michael mcd axis of what yacht is to include about all of late 70s early 80s soft rock that has that oh yeah, all rught self-serving tip that someone else posited that seems so sum up that whole ... thing (guffman reference).
― slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 September 2023 11:22 (six months ago) link
https://www.yachtornyacht.com/
A useful reference
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 23 September 2023 12:31 (six months ago) link