Tropicalia S/D, Classic or Classic, etc.

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There are a couple threads touching on Tropicalia, but nothing devoted to evaluation of the specific movements/artists. Having just finished the Veloso book I've been digging a little deeper into this stuff than I first did several years ago courtesy of Wendy Chien/Aquarius and the "Tropicalia" comp. Unlike other similar localized musical "movements" (British psych, Madchester, grunge, etc.) there doesn't seem to be any question of what is/isn't Tropicalia, perhaps by virtue of it being such a concisely planned and executed venture. It seems like it should be relatively simple to come up with a "canon", as the movement was so well circumscribed and so short-lived. As such, I'm currently trying to pretty much collect it all, let's have some opinions:

Caetano Veloso - s/t ('68) and s/t ('69)
Os Mutantes - s/t ('68), Mutantes ('69), and the Comedia del Arte or whatever it's called
Gal Costa - s/t ('68), s/t ('69)
Gilberto Gil - s/t ('68), s/t ('69)
Tropicalia compilation

I imagine there should be some Tom Ze in here as well, but I'm not sure what... anything else missing? (All the eponymous albums make this discussion a little problematic...)

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I have all of those records and I've never felt the need to buy more haha.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

has that famous original tropicalia comp ever been reissued on cd?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

well am I right in thinking that's pretty much all there is to it? it's kind of a pain finding those Gal albums... I seem to remember seeing reissues all the time just a few years ago.

the comp has been reissued, a few times I think.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Which Gal albums? I thought both were pretty easy to find.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

the two s/t listed above. Amoeba and Aquarius don't have 'em. the prices vinyl copies fetch on GEMM are fucking ridiculous.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you can still find them on Dusty Groove.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Woops or not. Hmmn. Well I guess they are OOP now.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

You might want to check out the pre-Tropicalia record Eu Vim De Bahia by those artists less Os Mutantes plus Caetano's sister, Maria Bethania. But, like I said, it's pre-Tropicalia, so it might seem a little tame. It's pretty good though.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

what about Tom Ze's "Grande Liquidacao"? from the same time period, contains "Parque Industrial", certainly has a great cover... anyone have any opinions on it?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Charles Perrone's book Masters of Contemporary Brazilian song is a good book with chapters on both Veloso and Gil. Both chapters have nice studies of some of their tropicalia-era lyrics with translations.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

My two favorite Gil songs are on "the manifesto album" (Tropicalia: Ou Panis et Circensis): "Geleia Geral" and "Miserere Nobis." I don't know if these are on other albums of his or other comps.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

my knowledge of tropicalia is very patchy at best (how is that book, btw?) but every single Tom Ze album except for that dance piece he did and Fabrication Defect have destroyed me (Fabrication Defect was cool but it was the first I heard and didn't convert me). The Continental reissues volume 14 were sort of lifechanging for me. anyone heard this new one...estudando o pagode? Jogos de Armar didn't leave my player for months when it came out.

william fields, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I think there is also a Joyce album and a Nara Leao album done Tropicalia style (perhaps with the guy who produced the rest of these records, I don't remember his name.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Rogerio Duprat

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Caetano Veloso - Araca Azul

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

That's it. I knew it was Rogerio.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Where do Som Imaginario fit in? The one I have Mantaca Do Porco blows my mind. I guess they made one other one and I'm DYING to hear it!

Did anybody else buy that Tropicalia box set? It was the first Costa, Gil, Veloso and Mutantes albums, along with the Tropicalia compilation, boxed together with a booklet.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought it. It's great.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

And dirt cheap too. Like $50 from Dusty Grooves.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

the Veloso book is pretty great, very informative, and lots of great tidbits (and amazing photos). However, there was something about his POV that's a little off-putting for me - I guess I wasn't expecting him to be such an academic. He seems to evaluate music (and by extension other aspects of popular culture) from a kind of distance, as if its all just conflicting movements, aesthetics, ideologies, etc. without real people behind them. Which to me is rather strange for someone w/Veloso's past. or maybe not.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Milton Nascimento - s/d - "Clube da Esquina" ('72) fucking slays me. so beautiful.

Joyce & Nelson Angela and the s/t Arthur Verocai both are very similar to this.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

also, the first Rita Lee album was pretty much a Mutantes album (they all worked on it). most of it is less wacky than their albums (lots of strings), but the last track freaks out a bit.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Gilberto Gil - "1969" and "Expresso 2222" are so freaked out. way more than the s/t album found in the box set.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i REALLY want the Tom Zé where the cover has a picture of a marble resting on an asshole (it looks more like an eyeball). i've got the Luaka Bop sampler of his and he gets into some freaky stuff w/crazy sound effects (blenders?), but the only single album of his i have is Grande Liquidacao, which is rather pretty, but rather tame. no crazy effects at all. great album though. i also have some more current ones. Com Defeito de Fabricacao [Fabrication Defect] - actually not bad, the remix cd even had a cool track or two. i had Jogos de Armar, but with a different cover from the amg listed one and thought it was really boring.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

here's the cover i was talking about

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre400/e420/e420463223h.jpg

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I love this stuff immoderately. Seems to me the Hip-O "Tropicalia Essentials" does a real good job of summing the movement up. I'm light on Tom Ze stuff, though, need to get his records. I'm more of a Gil fan than I am a Veloso fan, myself. I agree xpost on the comment about his book "Tropical Truth." It's great but there's this distance, for sure.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

jaxon i have that 2-album comp! and another one on the same label! you want i should make copies for you?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, I just got the new tom ze today, "Estudando O Pagode". It is completely bananas, dustygroove has it in now. also "imprensa cantada" from 2003, which is much different but still incredible.

here's a yousendit of what I think is the best track, "Elaeu"

http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ER1QRCEAAYWJ3PDMWH0PPN00Z

b'angelo, Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice, I didn't know there was a new Tom Zé album. His "Se o Caso é Chorar" hasn't been mentioned and is flawless.

jordache, Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

slocki, what's the music like? is it on the wackier, experimental sound effects side of his stuff or straight songs or a mixture?

(ps, did you ever get in contact w/my friend?)

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not even sure why i want it, i think it's just because the cover is so funny

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason. I also have that Tom Ze CD - I bought it in Tokyo at an insane record store called Manual of Errors http://www.manuera.com - maybe you could buy a copy off them. Failing that, Third World Music, also in Tokyo, has a ridiculously good Brazilian mail order thing going on. It's possibly the best selection of Brazilian music anywhere in the world, in my opinion, including Brazil! I can't find their web address at the moment; if you try googling various permutations of the shop name and the owner's name - Kepel Kimura - you might have more luck.

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Thursday, 31 March 2005 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I would add Gal & Caetano Domingo to your canon as that is kinda like the beginning in my mind. Plus, it rules. Also, Jorge Ben's s/t from 1969. There are others that are great that I am forgetting right now. I know there's Nara Leao album in this vein. Check out the slipcue site, it's helped me dozens of times decide what to buy next.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Jorge Ben's Africa Brasil too. Totally great.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, there is a great website located in Brazil where you can order these records. Kinda the Brazil Amazon. I know it was linked from ilm before, or at least mentioned. I'll try to find it. I think Amateur1st was the one who mentioned it -- maybe on a Nara Leao thread?

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah found it: http://somlivre.globo.com/

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll second Africa Brasil and Tom Ze (his first 3 albums)...also, seek out some Elis Regina (not really Tropicalia, but a lot of her songs were penned by Tropicalia guys)

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to get some. Where do I start?

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Ou Panis et Circencis was what I was thinking.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't start with the Caetano album pictured above. Better to go with A Arte De Caetano Veloso--great anthology.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

but Tropicalia as an actual entity and movement dissolves when, in '69? so while Araca Azul and Africa Brasil and Club de Esquina and Todos os Olhos are great great records (though my favorite Ze is the one with barbed wire on it), they are not "Tropicalia," and that's not really the topic at hand, is it? i mean, i could pile on Novos Baihanos and Lula Cortes and Joyce and Lo Borges and Arthur Verocai, but that's just falling under MPB then.
i guess the general rule is to go with the faces on "Panis et Circencis," no? which would include that Lara Neao disc, which is quite straight, more so than the Caetano e Gal disc from '67.
and i'll second the excellent Charles Perrone book on MPB, though it is far out of print now. excellent analysis of Gil, Veloso, as well as Nascimento, Buarque, and Bosco.

Beta (abeta), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear ya and you're probably right, I just think of those Ben & Domingo records along the same lines. Domingo is very pretty & straight bossa nova, but it's the meeting of the minds, so to speak, and I wrongly think of it as tropicalia. It's true that there are relatively few artists/records that are truly tropicalia, it's a finite group. I think they've all been named.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

okay then, to stick to Shakey Mo's original post: just add the first Tom Ze disc and the Nara Leao and that's basically the entire arc of Tropicalia. The Leao is the least essential (and least Tropicalist to these ears). Most crucial is everything else. Gal's '69 is not only the most out, but would rank with any weird psych of any artist, of any time, of any era. Monstrous. whenever i play any of those tunes for newbies (to people not at all familiar with MPB), it blows minds.

Beta (abeta), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the subject of what's MPB, tropicalia, and bossa is a bit confusing to most Americans? Seems like someone around here ought to come up with a book proposal that sorts it all out. If I had the resources, I'd love to do it. True, Elis Regina did Gil tunes real early on--"Roda" and "Lunik 9," and did some great covers of his stuff later on in the '70s (in fact, I wonder if some compiler could get a great CD of "Elis Sings Gil," wouldn't be any worse than the endless repackagings of her stuff). The movement does seem to have lasted maybe three years, bounded on the one end by the '67 recordings by Veloso and Gil and their arrest and departure for London in '69?

And I sure wish someone would do an English-language bio of Elis Regina, who's incredibly uneven as a recording artist, but certainly great and worthy of a book? But it's so tough selling those kind of books--I know that the bossa nova book by Castro didn't sell all that well, under 10,000 I think, ditto the excellent Cuba book by Ned Sublette (my friend at A Cappella edited those). And I've worked as a publishers' rep for music-book houses, so I know it's tough myself. Has anyone pitched that 33 1/3 series books on, say, "Gilberto Gil" (1968) or "Elis and Tom" or "Africa/Brasil"? Those all seem worthy. I'm just such a fan of this stuff, and so convinced it's something Americans should be much more aware of, both for musical reasons and for perspective on how bad things can be in a society obsessed with "order" and all that...and too bad that Perrone book is OP, too.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
okay, so I got a bunch of the solo albums I had to order from Brazil thru Gemm (Caetano s/t albums, first Gilberto s/t album) and now I'm wondering - is everything on the Tropicalia comp taken from other records? I was under the impression some of those tracks had been recorded specifically for that comp - the version of Bat Macumba, for example, is quite different from the one that appears on the Os Mutantes debut album...

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Rita Lee - Build Up

mucho, Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, answered my own question about the Tropicalia comp (no, that stuff isn't all from other records)... now I'm looking for the two Gal Costa Mercury records. Gemm is only listing vinyl copies for $215(!) which is insane. The CDs seem to be out-of-print, aren't available at Dusty Groove, etc. Anyone got any tips where I can find this stuff? Kinda wish I'd bought those reissues several years ago when I first saw them....

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 April 2005 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

re the gal costa albums, gygax has them and he's been promising me copies of them for a while now

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

damn his sexy hide.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 April 2005 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Here is one of those Gal Costa albums, the one that begins with "Não Identificado". If someone could advise on how to distinguish between the two 1969 s/t Costa albums--were they on different labels, was one released before the other, etc.--I'd appreciate it (for purposes of labeling).

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the one you posted is this one. the one from the tropicalia box set.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf400/f414/f41436lfm5j.jpg

i want the other mercury one

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, shakey, i have the one posted upthread, along with like 8 cds i owe you

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I know it is that one. I have the cd, so I can see the cover, and got it as part of the tropicalia box set. But I was wondering, originally were they released on different labels, or was one at least released before the other? Looking at AMG and Slipcue I can't figure it out. The Tropicalia box is a pretty recent thing.

Shakey had requested both of the Gal Costa albums, that's why I ysi'd it.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ew

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah Jaxon we gotta hook up - all that Funkadelic stuff I copied is sitting by my record player waiting for you.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

same label. the one you posted was put out first.

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

haha. i'm not even listening to funkadelic right now. (and i finally found a really cheap copy of Atomic Dog)

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

(btw I have since received a copy of Pacific Ocean Blue from a kindly ILXer - you still have a bunch of other shit I want tho! Alice Coltrane, etc)

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
Dusty Groove has the Gal Costa album above (pic with the boa, w/ "Nao Identificado") in stock right now. I've been trying to get a hold of it for a while. It's really amazing.

Keith C (lync0), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

i went to dusty groove just last month while i was in chicago for a bit and picked up the second Gal Coasta s/t album. it's way rockier and way trippier. i also picked up Os Brazoes - s/t. They're the backing band on the Gal Costa discs. and Rogerio Duprat - A Banda Tropicalista do Duprat. he did the production and arrangements on most of the early Tropicalia albums. it's not really what i expected. it's almost like a loungy, soft pop, happy-go-lucky record. only a bit of fuzz and effects.

Jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

I just got the Rogerio Duprat thing and I'm liking it. I know it doesn't sound exactly like what Tropicalia is supposed to sound like- although it does have yet another version of "Baby," doesn't it?- but that has been my experience with recordings by every one of the associated artists- despite how large its legend looms now, Tropicalia seems to have lasted all of five minutes. One thing to note, the CD I got on el/cherry red sounds like the master tapes had been left under water, or else they couldn't find the tapes and just used on old LP. I do like the weird juxtaposition of songs, it has "Judy in Disguise," Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey," Johnny Rivers' "Summer Rain" AND "Chega de Saudade." That's in the spirit of Tropicalia, isn't it? My favorite so far is Os Mutantes doing The Cowsills' "The Rain, The Park and Other Things."

k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Os Mutantes - Technicolor has a bunch of their songs in english. Fairly sweet.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

This week I went ahead and ordered the 2nd s/t Gal Costa CD (same one Jaxon refers to) and the first s/t Caetano CD from Dusty Groove, so if you're anyone's looking for those don't use GEMM or anything like that. I'm hoping they add the Mutantes CDs at some point, because those are fetching serious cash on the secondary market right now, it's a crime I tell ya.

Keith C (lync0), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

At least first 3 Os Mutantes, which I've got(on omplatten), are good-to-great. (Supposedly, they got[gradually] more into generic prog later, esp after Rita bailed.) Also, the Everything Is Possible anth on Luaka Bop, though could have been better, is representative enough. (And has good tracks that aren't on my other 3). Far as I can tell, Tom Ze is the only Tropicalista to really keep the orig. Tropicalia spirit vivacious. Although, even xgau, who's gen kinda-sorta re Veloso, likes A Foreign Sound, which I haven't heard, but it's more consistently mellow than Tropicalia, isn't it? Now, as far as *non* Tlistas who push themselves and audience, check the (sometimes specically "anti-Trop" )postpunks and others on Nao Wave and Sexual Lives Of Savages comps, which Simon vued in Voice. (Yeah, they think they're so anti--like Pistols doing a Monkees song, and doing it seriously, and Ballocks just happened to be produced by Chris Thomas)Also, Carlinhos Brown, back and forth from Starbucks' faves Tribalistas to recording with mad Max Caveleras, and the late great hiphopologist Chico Science, with N. Zumbi (who are still around, but haven't heard them without him)I had no prob with CV's Tropical Truths! Very illuminating, personal and overview. If his music is a little eh cos he was busy over the years with his notes for this, well that's vindicated now CV!

don, Friday, 23 September 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

been doing some investigatin' today.

chico buarque construcao from '71 - the tile track is arranged by duprat.

bbc radio 3's mixing it interviews os mutantes sergio dias! - the programme is being broadcast as i type - followed by a gig he played in london last month. the prog is available for another week.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

I love tropicalia; I think Veloso is way overrated. not pop enuff for me. I listed "Foreign Sound" in my top ten pazz/jop last year, but now...well, it's kinda not really as great as I thought. the cover of "Come as You Are" is great. guess I was fooled. it seemed significant and great at the time.

anyway, the Hip-O comp is all the tropicalia any normal person needs, I think; but I have to hear Mutants do "Judy in the Skies." I love Carlinhos Brown's "alfagamabetizado" album; the one after that, "Ahmet Ertegun Man" or whatever, was ultimately a failed experiment in trying to be Nilsson or John Lennon--I mean fascinating in a way, but it didn't quite come across. Big points for audacity. and the Tom Ze albums Se o caso é chorar and Estudando o samba from mid-70s are him at his least "experimental" and just plain charming. Very good.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 03:15 (twenty years ago)

"Estudando o samba" never fails to astound people when I play it for them.

My current favorites are Milton Nascimento's "Clube da Esquina" and the Arthur Verocai album that was reissued a year or so back.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 24 September 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

Um, Os Mutantes don't do "Judy In The Skies," that's just an instrumental track with the anonymous studio orchestra. It's kind of cool, though. And there is a cuica thrown in there somewhere for good Brazilian measure.

k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 24 September 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh...too bad it isn't Mutantes doing John Fred. It still sounds great. Another thing to put on my list.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 24 September 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

the Duprat album is intriguing, more Spike Jones on "Judy in Disguise" yet more David Axelrod on the instrumental version of "Baby." Os Mutantes appearances are just alright, but god, the transfer is one of the most hideous I've ever heard, the high frequencies just squished into a soggy pancake.
and for whatever reason, I had stopped listening to Caetano Veloso after Araca Azul, but just recently picked up the spare and lovely Joia, and will no doubt grab Transa in the near-future.
and for whoever is into Club de Esquina, you must check out the Lo Borges record (with sneakers). deliriously compact (most songs under 2 minutes) with precise rhythmic twists and astounding arrangements.

Beta (abeta), Saturday, 24 September 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

Anyone deep into this stuff should definitely read Brutality Garden: Tropicalia and the Emergence of A Brazilian Counterculture by Christopher Dunn. It was his Ph.D. thesis, but a good read, only 214 pages not including notes.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 24 September 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

well fuck I go away for a couple weeks and the Gal albums come back into print and go out of stock while I'm away. Bah. Only managed to get one just now off Dusty Groove.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 24 September 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

Beta's description of the album in question gives a pretty good picture of it.

k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 24 September 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

Charles Perrone's translation of Caetano Veloso's "Alegria Alegria" (possibly the greatest song of the sixties?):

Walking straight into the wind
Nothing to tie me down, no particular place to go
In the nearly December sun, I'm on my way
The sun scatters into guerillas, spaceships, crimes
Into lovely Claudia Cardinales, I'm on my way
Into presidents' faces, big loving kisses
Into teeth, legs, flags, bombs, and Brigitte Bardot
The sun at the newsstand fills me with joy and laziness
Who reads all this news?
I'm headed into photos and names, colors filling my eyes
My heart full of vain love, I'm on my way, why not? Why not?

She thinks about getting married
I never went back to school, I'm on my way
Nothing to tie me down, no particular place to go
I drink a Coca-Cola, she thinks about a wedding
A song consoles me, I'm headed
Into photos and names with no books or rifles
No hunger, no phone in the heart of Brazil
She doesn't know I even thought of singing on TV
The sun is so lovely
Nothing to tie me down, I'm on my way, empty pockets, empty-handed
I want to go on living love, I'm on my way, why not? Why not?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 25 September 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

Guess I shouldn't be reading this while listening to Neil Young's new "Prarie Wind," but kinda fits, in a sinister way. (Evening sun, birds flying home, horns like a guard tower turning, wirey guitar, tricky rhythms all around,"like a new car sittin' in an open garage...prairie wind blowin' all through my head.") Ge' a job, CV

don, Sunday, 25 September 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

One more Veloso tune, "Tropicalia":

Over my head the aeroplanes/Under my feet the trucks and trains
And pointing out the highland plains/Is my nose
I organize the movement, too/I lead the carnival; I'm who
Inaugurates the monument in the midwest of a country in a pose

Long live the Bossa-sa-sa! Long live the stra-stra-straw huts!

The monument is crepe paper and silver/The "green-eyed mulatta"
Hides the "backland moonlight" with her hair behind the forest
The monument has no door/An entrance is an old crooked narrow street
And on its knee a smiling ugly dead child sticks out his hand

Long live the forest la-la-land! Long live the mulatta-ta-ta!

In the courtyard there's a swimming pool/With blue waters from Bahia
The coconut trees speak and the Northeastern breeze and lighthouses
In its right hand it has a rose bush/Authenticating the eternal spring
And in the garden the vultures stroll all day amongst the sunflowers

Long live Maria-ia-ia! Long live Bahia-ia-ia!

On its left wrist a Western shoot-out/In its veins little blood runs
But its heart swings to samba's tambourine
It emits dissonant chords/Over five thousand loudspeakers
Ladies and gentlemen, it sets its big eyes on me

Long live Iracema-ma-ma! Long live Ipanema-ma-ma!

Sunday the "Best of Bossa" is on/Monday is blue Monday for him
Tuesday he's down on the farm, however/The monument is very modern
It didn't say anything about the pattern of my new suit
"To hell with everything else" my dear

Long live "A Banda"-da-da! Carmen Miranda-da-da
Long live "A Banda"-da-da! Carmen Miranda-da-da
Long live "A Banda"-da-da! Carmen Miranda-da-da

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 25 September 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

Apparently, "Alegria Alegria" was used as the the theme song for some popular Brazilian tv series from the eighties or nineties, I think? A show set in the sixties?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 25 September 2005 04:17 (twenty years ago)

Almost forgot to mention this:

Tropicalia: A Revolution in Brazilian Culture
October 22, 2005 – January 8, 2006
Museum of Contemporary Art, 220 East Chicago Avenue

Brazilian art. Design. Film. Dance. Revolutionary music.
Tropicalia, one of the most significant cultural movements to emerge from South America in the last five decades, marked a true revolution in Brazilian music, visual arts, theater, and cinema, while also influencing advertising, fashion, and television. Inspired by the writings of Oswald de Andrade, one of the founding figures of Brazilian modernism, the movement took its name from an installation created in 1967 by the young Brazilian artist Hélio Oiticica, whose work embraced an aesthetic of informality, interactivity, and cultural hybridity. Tropicália also became the title of one of the most celebrated albums in Brazilian music history, featuring Caetano Veloso and others.

This exhibition revisits this seminal moment in Brazilian culture, examining tropicalismo as a true force in popular culture and a continuing source of inspiration for several generations of artists, writers, and musicians. It consists of major works from the 1967 re-creation of the original New Brazilian Objectivity exhibition, and works by numerous artists including Lygia Clark, Lygia Pape, and Antônio Dias; a survey of films; excerpts from concerts by the tropicalist musicians; and examples of advertising, fashion, television clips, and artist-designed theater sets. The historical component is complemented by a contemporary section that assesses the impact of tropicalismo on contemporary art and culture. New commissions by musicians and artists include works by Arto Lindsay, Marepe, Ernesto Neto, Rivane Neuenschwander, and Dominique Gonzalez-Foerster, among others.

Guest-curated by New York-based independent curator Carlos Basualdo, this exhibition is co-organized by the MCA, Chicago, and The Bronx Museum of the Arts, New York. The MCA presentation is coordinated by Assistant Curator Julie Rodrigues Widholm.

Tropicalia website

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Sunday, 25 September 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
found a copy of the CD reissue of Mutantes' second album - so a whole year later after starting this thread, I've finally collected my prospective "canon". Now I need to decide whether I should bother locating the Comedia Del Arte thing, Ze's Grande Liquidacao, or any of the other offshoots (the Rogerio Duprat album's available from Dusty Groove, but I dunno if I'm really interested).

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

ZE!

Jack Cole (jackcole), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Grande Liquidacao is really good. but more of a bossa/samba/mbp kinda thing than straight up Tropicalia. no electric guitars, no weird experimentalism.

Rogerio Duprat's album isn't that good. well, maybe it is, but it's not really what i was expecting. it's more of a lounge album. there are some tripped out moments on it and some nice funky drums, but i've only listened to it once or twice.

not sure what the Comedia Del Arte thing is you're talking about. if you want some of the freakier tropicalia albums, you should get the second s/t Gal Costa, the Gilberto Gil's
1969" (wicked trippy), or the Os Brazoes s/t cd (backing band on the first few Costa cds)

team jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:33 (twenty years ago)

i have such a big http://www.xsorbit27.com/images/star-heart.gif for gilberto gil right now

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)

JaXoN OTM about the Duprat album, but I think I like it more than he does.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 April 2006 16:40 (twenty years ago)

"not sure what the Comedia Del Arte thing is you're talking about."

uh, don't mind me, I had the title wrong: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=10:q2ja7ia2g78r

"you should get the second s/t Gal Costa, the Gilberto Gil's 1969" (wicked trippy)"

Got those.

"the Os Brazoes s/t cd (backing band on the first few Costa cds)"

never even heard of this...? I don't remember these guys getting a mention in Tropical Truth.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:07 (twenty years ago)

uh, don't mind me, I had the title wrong: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=10:q2ja7ia2g78r

oh, the third mutantes album. definitely pick this up. it's super silly.

you can get the Os Brazoes cd at dusty

team jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 3 April 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Probably the next step, if you haven't begun already, would be to start checking out the major tropicalia players' 70's albums. Caetano's acoustic exile-period self titled album (and Gil's, which might be even better I think), Transa, and Araca Azul all carry on the experimental feel of Tropicalia, if not the explicit sound. And Gal Costa's India album is my favorite of hers and one of my favorites of all time.

whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 00:59 (twenty years ago)

. Caetano's acoustic exile-period self titled album which you forgot to mention is all in english. it's pretty great.

team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 01:28 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
been on a tropicalia kick lately, these have BLOWN MY MIND:

Tom Ze - Estudando O Samba
Gilberto Gil - Expresso 222
Gilberto Gil/Jorge Ben - Gil e Jorge
Som Imaginario - s/t and mantaco do porto

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Saturday, 23 September 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

I've been devouring this stuff lately. The Soul Jazz comp got me going last year and since then I've picked up the first five Os Mutantes, Rita Lee's second album (possibly pick of the bunch), Africa Brazil by Jorge Ben, Lobo by Edu Lobo, the Som Imaginario, Gil e Jorge, Caetano Veloso's self-titled, Gilberto Gil's self-titled... I think that's about it. It's pretty much all fantastic.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

Going by what Beta says, this might be post-Tropicalia, but Via Lactea, the follow-up to Lo the Borges sneakers album (how cool is that cover!?), also has some great, great, dreamy arrangements and accompaniment. So good. Also has a different version of Club de Esquina, although I can't say if it's better or worse than the original, as I haven't heard it...

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:15 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Lo Borges and his chums from Minas Gerais were not tropicalistas, but I love love love that whole "dreamy" sound, as you describe it, gnarly. Clube da Esquina 2 (from 1978) by Milton Nascimento is simply one of my favourite albums ever.

Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:37 (eighteen years ago)

I want the sneakers album!
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s91649.jpg

Check out Vento de Maio from La Via Lactea... his voice and the guitar, oh oh oh oh oh. Apparently his sister sings on it too.

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

The sneakers album is going for £95 secondhand on Amazon.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Or $19.99 on ebay.

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

Hahahaha!

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

Does Louis Jagger like Os Mutantes?

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, if you run across any of the earlier Gal Costa albums, I recommend them as well.

mitya, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

Aye, I've had a browse around but they're either not available or else expensive as hell.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

i don't really think Tom Ze fits neatly into any category. i know he was in with the tropicalistas in the late sixties, but i think the connection ends there.
and the lady @ Aquarius spells her name Windy, fwiw. sorry for the nitpick, but i like her name

outdoor_miner, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

Os Mutantes are playing Kentish Town Forum July 27th! I'm away that weekend though :(

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going to see if i can get the uk gigs recorded. if i can i'll make it available to download.

stirmonster, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

if you don't mind me asking, how come it is billed as "os mutantes meet jd twitch"? are you collaborating or something? either way it is going to be awesome

creme1, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

i've been working on a track with sergio dias which we will perform before os mutantes play their set. basically i have written the backing and sergio has written lyrics which he will sing and also add some guitar parts. if we have enough time to rehearse beforehand some other members of the band will contribute parts to it too. i will also be playing records.

stirmonster, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

ps - i kind of wish it hadn't been billed like that. i may get lynched by the tropicalia purists.

stirmonster, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

nah, they'll love it, stirmonster. sounds great.

can't seem to find the tracklist for the new Universal Latino comp--anyone got it? does anyone else feel as though the (excellent) Soul Jazz comp might get outside of tropicália proper, with the Jorge Ben track for example? the Hip-O Tropicália Essentials is OP, I guess, and a real good one-disc overview.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

Caetano Veloso's first three solo albums are self-titled!

jim, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, many xposts. to Nick S.

jim, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

Great thread! I've been looking for more places to branch out in my exploration of Tropicalia music, and this thread has given me a lot of ideas. Like a lot of people, I guess it was the Soul Jazz comp from last year that kicked my interest into high gear (I did already have the first Os Mutantes album, but that one hadn't spurred me on in quite the same way, though it is good). Since then, I've picked up one each solo album by Gilberto Gil and Caetano Veloso, both excellent. Obviously there's still quite a bit more out there.

o. nate, Thursday, 5 July 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

Btw, don't know if people have seen this, but it's apparently a clip from Brazilian TV from 1968 with Gilberto Gil performing with Os Mutantes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbv3M-AdxC0

o. nate, Thursday, 5 July 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

the guy at my fave record store has a copy of the brilliant first album by Secos e Molhados and won't sell it to me. he keeps playing it in store and everyone wants it, but so does he. they're pretty much a funky Os Mutantes. a bit of googling turns up mp3s of their first 2 albums.

jaxon, Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrxFusyX6ds&mode=related&search=

jaxon, Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

Dusty has the CD of the first two albums in stock for $9.99 and yeah, it's excellent.

Stormy Davis, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

Brazilian music is really just a bottomless pot of riches. been collecting to stuff for years and still continually find out about new things to investigate ... almost every album I pick up has something to recommend it.

Stormy Davis, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:45 (eighteen years ago)

i picked up that first secos e molhados in sao paulo earlier in the year. so good! good to see the 2nd one is on cd.

stirmonster, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

Another clip of Os Mutantes (and I think there's a glimpse of Tom Ze in the audience):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2EKghlmIyQ&mode=related&search=

o. nate, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

Stir - do you know whether the show at the Forum ends at 11 or later? It seems like a lot of stuff to fit in if it ends early.

I'm trying to persuade some people to come and it doesn't seem to say on the trocabrahma website.

Jamie T Smith, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

it's on until 2am (possibly 3).

stirmonster, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Just saw this today:

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Jardim Elétrico: A Tribute to Os Mutantes

FORMAT: CD
RUNNING TIME: 64' 34''
CATALOGUE: MDCP054
TRACKS: 15
DATE OF RELEASE: JULY 21st, 2007
EXTRAS: Insert poster drawn by Arnaldo Baptista from Os Mutantes, plus booklet by Black Arrow Studio & Press (US).

Since the early Nineties, Os Mutantes finally gained recognition as one of the most original, bizarre band coming from Brasil during the psychedelic era. Thanks to the support of fans like Kurt Cobain, David Byrne and Beck, the Mutantes legend spread and their music, effortless mixing pop and experimentalism that’s both playful and weird, suddenly reaching new audiences.At last the impact made by Arnaldo Baptista, Sergio Dias and Rita Lee on future generations became clear. Now a bunch of musicians hailing from countries as diverse as Italy, United States, Brasil and United Kingdom, gather together on this disc to celebrate the wild imagination and the outstanding power of the Mutantes' songs. Nothing less than a labour of love, "Jardim Elétrico: A Tribute to Os Mutantes" is a way to remind us how great their music is, and how much the work of this band still reverberates through time. Some of the artists on this tribute are well-known, others still struggle in the underground, but what they have in common is an unabashed love for this trio and their crazy, lighthearted passion for fun and experimentation.
Time hasn’t diminished the driving exuberance and the unmistakable vibe that is the real essence of Os Mutantes: they are still alive and kicking, playing out there and probably touring in your country. Look for them and you will even find a Jardim Elétrico!
Trackilist:

Stop The Wheel "Top top"
Jennifer Gentle "Panis et circenses"
Father Murphy "Ave Lucifer"
Sean Lennon and Yuka Honda "Trem fantasma"
White Flag "Mysterious White Roses" (Os Mutantes unreleased song, taken from a 1968 movie)
Tater Toz "Bat Macumba"
Littlebrown "Senhor f."
Residual Echoes "A minha menina"
Wondermints "Arnaldo Said"
Pillar and Tongues "Magica"
Oswald "Dois mil e um"
Gomma Workshop "O relogio"
Franklin Delano/GRES Unidos Do Berimbau "Adeus, Maria Fulo"
The Earlies "Ave Gengis Khan"
Fabio Recco & Bia Mendes (Beto Salmon remix) "Tecnicolor"

"My dear Friends, it's been an honour for us Mutantes to be receiving this kind of warmth and recognition from the youth who's going to change the musical face of this century, we are so very proud of you all, and
so grateful in our hearts for this homage, I wish that our music can always touch your hearts and the magic that you do...this CD is a beautifull gesture, thank you all so very much..." Sérgio Dias, Os Mutantes
Thanks to the support of Sergio Dias and Windish Agency (Chicago, US) Jardim Elétrico will be available as official merchandase at every Os Mutantes show.

For any further information, please feel free to contact Frederico f. (Madcap Collective) feder✧✧✧@malede✧✧✧.i✧ or Marco Damiani (Silly Boy Ent.) sillyboy✧✧✧@hotm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

(Marco D. posts here, of course, and can doubtless say more.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

I just got the Secos e Molhados 1st. How come the chick who does vocals for every track didn't get her head severed head a plate for the album cover?? Shame! WTF!! IT'S A GUY! Movel over Michael Quercio!

Anyway, yeah, this is great stuff. Not so keen on the boogie-woogie sounding number (so many good 197-whatever albums tainted by dud boogie woogie number), but then it's followed by that one track with the ridonculous bassline, so it's all fine in the end.

gnarly sceptre, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

free os mutantes show in the park in SF sunday! :D

jaxon, Friday, 13 July 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

Got the tribute album the other day, will listen over the weekend...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Brazilian music is really just a bottomless pot of riches. been collecting to stuff for years and still continually find out about new things to investigate ... almost every album I pick up has something to recommend it.

-- Stormy Davis, Friday, July 6, 2007 12:45 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

so otm

s1ocki, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111616420

Arthur Verocai: Return Of A Brazilian Secret Egon from Stones Throw piece

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 05:06 (sixteen years ago)

wo

'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 05:24 (sixteen years ago)

need to get that s/t

also huh (velko), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 06:49 (sixteen years ago)

me too

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:01 (sixteen years ago)

ya heard

'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

huh never heard of him before - sounds great must find

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:04 (sixteen years ago)

just got the verocai, very nice

velko, Thursday, 3 September 2009 06:29 (sixteen years ago)

i have that Ivan Lins album. picked it up because verocai produced it. it kinda sux. luckily i picked it up for a buck and it sells for 25-35$ (if i were ever to actually sell stuff on ebay)

jaxon, Thursday, 3 September 2009 06:52 (sixteen years ago)

I saw Os Mutantes tonight. WOW. I actually liked the tracks from the new album the best. What a KILLER live band.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 September 2009 09:10 (sixteen years ago)

I'm hoping to see the DC area show in October. How many original members are in the group?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 September 2009 11:56 (sixteen years ago)

I saw the re-formed Os Mutantes a couple of years ago in NYC. They were great. The Baptista brothers are there from the original line-up. No Rita Lee - they had the singer Zelia Duncan sort of taking her place.

o. nate, Thursday, 3 September 2009 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

I'm seeing them TONIGHT in Vancouver! Really stoked by the positive comments. If anyone's going tonight note the venue has been changed to the Rio.

everything, Thursday, 3 September 2009 16:46 (sixteen years ago)

the Verocai is nice, not really very tropicaliaish tho (or very funky - kinda surprised at its DJ cachet tbh) Nice orchestral stuff

Blanket McCulkin (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 September 2009 17:35 (sixteen years ago)

really digging this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAAFzOUYgc0&feature=related

velko, Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

It's only one of the Baptista brothers now. But whatever. The band is EXCELLENT. And the main dude is one of the best guitar players I've ever seen in my life.

So much positive energy and awesome jamming. Loved it.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Secos & Molhados - Sempre. Dusty Groove has this, but as far as I'm aware, the group only put out two albums in 1973 and 74. Anyone know what this is?

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

I have a comp with both albums on it, maybe its that...?

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure it is a new "best of" - google found me a list of 14 tracks, which appeared to be a mix of the two albums. MAybe remastered or something.

There is also a live album of the original line-up, and I think one that was cut by the two other guys after Ney left that came out under the Secos name.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

I think I am that Trend Person who goes around professing general love of Tropicalia based on having one compilation where he can't remember any of the tracks or artists other than Os Mutantes.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 1 October 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

congrats

jaxon, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

seeing mutantes on saturday

gore vitalic (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:45 (sixteen years ago)

Last month's Mutantes show I was at was a real rave-up. What a band!

everything, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

oh god this was awful.

gore vitalic (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 October 2009 06:47 (sixteen years ago)

no rita lee = gtfo imo

velko, Sunday, 4 October 2009 06:49 (sixteen years ago)

they played a new song called "baghdad blues" :( :( :(

gore vitalic (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 October 2009 15:14 (sixteen years ago)

Just saw the movie doc "Beyond Ipanema: Brazilian Waves in Global Music" last night at the AFI theater in suburban DC (the movie's showing just one more time there--Thurs. Oct. 8th). In it one of the guys from Os Mutantes says (and I'm paraphrasing)"I contacted Rita Lee when we were reforming the group, she said she wasn't interested." So they moved on and hired someone else.

As for the movie, its goal seems to be to show every non-Brazilian artist who has espoused an interest in Brazilian music since the 1980s. So you get interviews with members of Theivery Corporation,MIA, Diblo, and mentions of Os Mutantes performing at the Pitchfork festival. The movie does offer some cool old footage(Carmen Miranda, tropicalia, beach shots) and some interesting interviews (author Ruy Castro), and Harlem kids playing samba, but there's way too much Devandra Barnhart saying "wow, man I love tropicalia," David Byrne talking about buying records, and some guy badmouthing that damn kids music like the Rolling Stones that was so clearly less challenging than bossa nova (kinda funny I guess). Trying to cover Brazilian music in 90 minutes is impossible of course and so it's easy to name performers who were left out of this flick. I'd reccommend seeing it anyway, but just don't expect much.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 4 October 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

Os Mutantes live, in English, in color in 1969 with an orchestra on French TV

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 January 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, thanks!

Fanfare for the History Mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

eight months pass...

one of the other tropicalia threads
Tropicalia

Just discovered that a movie doc called Tropicalia is showing at the American Film Institute Theatre in Maryland near Washington DC tonight and Sunday

TROPICÁLIA
"What was the message we were sending to everyone? Be free! And that was extremely subversive at the time." Tropicália was a relatively short-lived but hugely influential movement in Brazilian arts and music during the late 1960s. This playfully expressionistic documentary delves deep into the Tropicália story, including amazing archival footage of Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Os Mutantes, Maria Bethânia, Gal Costa, Elis Regina, Tom Ze, and Jorge Ben Jor, among many others.

DIR/SCR Marcelo Machado; SCR Vaughn Glover, Di Moretti; PROD Paula Cosenza, Denise Gomes. Brazil/US/UK, 2012, b&w and color, 87 min. In Portuguese with English subtitles. NOT RATED

No passes accepted.Fri, Sep 28, 10:00; Sun, Sep 30, 7:15--note new time!

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 September 2012 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.waxpoetics.com/music/new-music-blog/gilles-peterson-sonzeira-brasil-bam-bam-bam

SONZEIRA – THE COLLECTIVE

Elza Soares:

Brazilian Samba singer – now in her late 70s – she emerged into the Brazilian music scene from her favela upbringing after winning a talent contest in the 50s. She is one of the seminal Brazilian voices and it was a major thing for Gilles to have recorded with her on this project.Very well known in Brazil yet not as much international recognition as many feel she deserves . Discovered by Ary Barroso who wrote ‘Aquarela do Brazil’ the song she sings on the album .

Emanuelle Araujo:

Singer and soapstar / actress. Gilles first came across her and her vocal talent on an Orquestra Imperial rehearsal when he was in Rio previously. She provides vocals on the “Southern Freeez” cover, “Xibaba” and “Brazil Pandeiro”.

Lucas Santtana:

Singer, composer and producer contemporary artist electronic fusion music. Plays concerts in Brazil itself and internationally.

Mart’nalia:

Singer and songwriter – she is the daughter of prominent sambista Martinho da Vila and singer Analia Mendonca [her name is a blend of the two]. She vocals “Mystery of Man” on the Sonzeira record. Very popular live shows within Rio where she can command big audiences but not internationally known, making her interesting to work with for this project.

Wilson Das Neves:

Drummer,vocalist and percussionist. Has played with international artists and many Brazilian big names. Still making music with the Ipanemas with whom he has recorded since the 60s – check him in the film ‘Brasilintime’.

Arlindo Cruz:

Songwriter, composer and musicians – he began age 7 learning the cavaquinho [small guitar] – he works in the samba and pagode styles of music. In 2012, Arlindo Cruz recorded ‘Tatu Bom De Bola’ the official song for Fuleco the Armadillo the official Mascot of FIFA 2014 World Cup. He has his own TV show in Brazil.

Marcos Valle:

Key player of Brazilian music – especially in terms of export to the UK etc – he is a prolific writer [over 20 albums] and his career spans over 50 years. His record Samba 68 features English language versions of some of his tracks. He has collaborated with Sarah Vaughan and in his later career Leon Ware and Chicago. He performed at Gilles’ Worldwide Awards 2013.

Alexandre Kassin:

Producer and musician. Released his own album recently that Gilles featured on his 6Music show. Has played as part of “Plus 2s” and “Orquestra Imperial” amongst others .Was once thought to be a member of the Ramones after having his picture taken with them and it appearing in the national paper.

Nina Miranda:

Brazilian vocalist living in London; released music under the name Smoke City and various collaborations. Appears on “Mystery of man” and “City of Saints”.

Seu Jorge:

Singer and Actor that gained international reputation when he appeared in ‘Life Aquatic ‘ the Wes Anderson film. He lives in LA and Gilles had to go there to record him. He is probably the most famous Brazilian in the world today …excluding Pele, maybe.

Gabriel Moura:

Nephew of Paulo Moura very well known samba musician and singer. Friends with Seu Jorge since Paulo Moura ran a programme to help youths in the area, one being Seu Jorge .They were both in the influential group Farofa Capioca too.

Nana Vasconcelos:

Seminal percussionist , together with Airto became the face of Brazilian percussion internationally. Has worked with big names all over the world. His work with guitarist Egberto Gismonti has been in great demand. Originally from Bahia has lived in New York, London and Paris.

Sean O’Hagan:

Artist and string arranger for this record. Deep knowledge of Brazilian music; played guitar and arranged strings on “Mystery of man” and “Aquarela do Brazil”. His bands “Stereo Lab” and “The High Lamas” have provided some of the most innovative and moving music of recent times.

Wowie... what a group.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 10 May 2014 18:08 (twelve years ago)

eight months pass...

A Night in 67 (Uma noite em 67) (Brazil, 2010)
Directed by Ricardo Calil, Renato Terra.
Brazil’s music “festivals” of the mid-1960s were boisterous, televised competitions akin to American Idol today. One such show in 1967 was a particularly raucous affair that sparked a revolution that forever changed Brazilian music. Captivating archival performances by Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Os Mutantes and Chico Buarque—alongside contemporary interviews from the key players—helps recreate the night when the still-forming Tropicália movement was introduced to the public. DigiBeta, b/w & color, in Portuguese with English subtitles, 85 min.

Has anyone seen this? It was shown in Los Angeles last year, and is gonna be shown in DC next weekend. parts of it seem to be on Youtube without English subtitles.

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 February 2015 20:19 (eleven years ago)

no but would watch a DVD

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 February 2015 20:27 (eleven years ago)

At one point the whole thing was on either youtube or vimeo or something. I watched most of it and it was pretty cool.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 6 February 2015 20:28 (eleven years ago)

I will keep an eye on youtube and vimeo, thanks for the tips!
From my blogged Pazz & Jop '14 comments:
Tom Ze, Vira Lata na Via Lactea: Tropicalia maestro & friends in fine vox, tight & tuneful, unfazed by maze(gtrs snares etc customize it). Not one of his big avant etc projects, but contemplative and witty, in that seemingly casual, but always on point A-to-Ze way.
I've seem him called the Beefheart of Brazil(!), but in sets like these, if there must be a comparison, Cole Porter as quirky socio-poitical (incl sexual politics) pop-rocker (of Brazil!) would be a relatively closer fit.

dow, Friday, 6 February 2015 23:40 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

I know this Arthur Verocai album isn't properly tropicalia, but fuuuuuck it's good.

Have you hugged your timeghoul today? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 9 July 2016 23:07 (nine years ago)

Have somehow missed out on him. Will check him out

http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2013/11/arthur-verocai-a-brazilian-original

curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 July 2016 00:13 (nine years ago)

Me too

Polyphemos Def (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 July 2016 00:14 (nine years ago)

there was a really great mixtape on soundcloud or something of songs he arranged. super recommended.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Sunday, 10 July 2016 00:25 (nine years ago)

Just finished with Veloso's autobiography, which is very helpful on understanding the cultural background against which the proper tropicalistas were operating. He spends a lot of time on his English records and practically none on his white album; gives some good insight on what he was going for on Araca Azul. Also an entertaining passive-aggressive take on his relationship with Chico Buarque.

bentelec, Sunday, 10 July 2016 18:34 (nine years ago)

That book was super interesting but there was something about Caetano's tone that sort of rubbed me the wrong way.

The Rite of Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 July 2016 18:44 (nine years ago)

I've become semi familair with teh first run of both Gilberto gil and Caetano Veloso lps alongside the Os Muttantes stuff plus a couple of the Gal Costa ones. The one with the psychedelic cover at least.

Not heard any Tom Ze as far as I'm aware. Was looking at the Mr Bongo version of his first lp as well as teh Os Brazoes set & I think they back him on some of that lp.

Not sure what else I need to look out for.

Stevolende, Sunday, 10 July 2016 18:51 (nine years ago)

Still a good place to start, less esoteric than some:

I will keep an eye on youtube and vimeo, thanks for the tips!
From my blogged Pazz & Jop '14 comments:
Tom Ze, Vira Lata na Via Lactea: Tropicalia maestro & friends in fine vox, tight & tuneful, unfazed by maze(gtrs snares etc customize it). Not one of his big avant etc projects, but contemplative and witty, in that seemingly casual, but always on point A-to-Ze way.
I've seem him called the Beefheart of Brazil(!), but in sets like these, if there must be a comparison, Cole Porter as quirky socio-poitical (incl sexual politics) pop-rocker (of Brazil!) would be a relatively closer fit.

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dow, Sunday, 10 July 2016 19:00 (nine years ago)

Luaka Bop's Ze collections also are excellent gateways, and they've got several of his original releases too---xgau's got pretty good takes on all those, and some on other labels:
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=Tom+Ze

dow, Sunday, 10 July 2016 19:08 (nine years ago)

I'm not into Ze's more avante stuff

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 July 2016 14:17 (nine years ago)

Nor I

Blandings Castle Magic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 July 2016 15:04 (nine years ago)

I picked up the Mr. Bongo reissue of Ze's first s/t album (aka Grande Liquidacao or summat), I really dig it.

Have you hugged your timeghoul today? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 11 July 2016 20:13 (nine years ago)

Caetano V. jammin thee funk (ouch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeWG-SviVUw

dow, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 01:18 (nine years ago)

if i had to name a "beefheart of brazil" (which i wouldn't) it'd be somebody like arrigo barnabe.

by the way is there a vanguarda paulista thread? it seems to be going through a pretty big revival lately with records by elza soares, jucara marcal, meta meta...

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 02:07 (nine years ago)

It may be a bit of a stretch and maybe too rootsy, but Luiz Bonfa might be included for his fine acoustic guitar from the 1950s. Those early bossa nova grooves suggest a cool breeze on a summer day, where Tropicalia nods more towards "sweltering" heat.

bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:41 (nine years ago)

Love that one album cover with a picture of his hand playing a stretchy chord. Which, iirc, is a closed major seventh chord.

Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:47 (nine years ago)

No, major seventh chord not stretchy enough. Simply a seventh chord.

Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 16:50 (nine years ago)

is this a seventh chord?

http://kanji.zinbun.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~yasuoka/Bonfa/PHM200-087.gif

bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:03 (nine years ago)

hurts, just looking at it...

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0000/581/MI0000581599.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:07 (nine years ago)

That's the one I was thinking of. Other one I'm not sure what to call it.

Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:10 (nine years ago)

Maybe some kind of inverted thirteenth.

Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)

I guess Bonfa's music for the film Black Orpheus, which made something of an international art house splash, might have been favorably regarded by proto-Tropacalia kiddies, at least for finding its way into a groovy new context---though when I finally saw it, thought it was a basically basic, Cliffnotes tracking of the original myth, albeit in an enjoyable Carnivale setting, not something that turns up in the movies all that often, and as close as I'll ever get to the real thing. (Think it was John Litweiler who claimed that LB's theme for the flick was real close to an earlier Sun Ra melody.)
I've got a Bonfa album on the Chesky label: pretty perky, although it's one of those overly faithful digital recordings, with every squeak of the strings. The one that really gets me is his collab with Stan Getz, Jazz Samba Encore! He really gets Getz to soar, or something does (new drug score?). I know that Airto M. claimed that Stan's Brazilian fans loved his non-bossa nova albums, but tended to regard those as "comedy records"---but I wonder if even they wouldn't hear this set as transcending his limited understanding, and/or creative misprision. Placebo or not, Thanks LB!

dow, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

But Baden Powell might be a more appropriate guitarist to mention here; seems like he just played whatever the hell he wanted.

dow, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:57 (nine years ago)

Will look into Powell, thx -- For Luiz, i'll take Solo in Rio 1959 anyday day of the week.

bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 18:20 (nine years ago)

Bonfa chord is Ab13, can't tell if it includes the 5th or not

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 18:25 (nine years ago)

(er the first one is, not sure what the second one is)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 18:25 (nine years ago)

Bonfa chord is Ab13, can't tell if it includes the 5th or not

Yes. Don't see any fifth, third seems to be doubled though. Have you ever actually played this chord?
(er the first one is, not sure what the second one is)

Can't tell what the absolute notes are but surely you can see the relationship.

Some Brazilian-style players of my acquaintance think Baden Powell is the best

Gabba Gabba Hey in the Hayloft (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:38 (nine years ago)

Speaking of xpost vanguarda paulista, these two comps of Sao Paulo's remakes/remodels of post-punk etc. are really worth checking out (pretty fair intro, esp. consid word limit):
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/two-new-compilations-document-a-so-paulo-scene-you-never-knew-existed-6403283
And yeah, like the previous poster mentioned, Jucara Marcal's come back pretty strong===check Encarnado on her site! Ncao Zumbi's s/t is very engaging too, as written and played although I think I'd think it was missing some vocal authority, even if I didn't know their albums with the late great Chico Science.

dow, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:40 (nine years ago)

JUst ain't right really. Why can't you get Tom Ze's 70s stuff on cd as in full lps. I just found the Estudando o Samba on flac on an old hard drive. But I think I probably need everything on physical disc. Actually thankfully just discovered this was the 2fer cd version with the lp after it. Think I've spent too long going through the drives already , so hoping i haven't missed the other set somewhere.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 20:01 (nine years ago)

Have you heard the first of hisseveral on Luaka Bop? Goes back pretty far, and well-described by xgau:

Brazil Classics 4: The Best of Tom Zé [Luaka Bop/Warner Bros., 1990]
These '73-75 songs catch a poor Brazilian (albeit a Brazilian who says his dad won the lottery) on his way from pop tropicália to leftist jingles and instruments constructed from household appliances, only unlike his buddy Caetano Veloso, he puts the rebellion and satire out there in the music for benighted English speakers to hear. Zé delivers his portion of lulling lyricism, but it's his jarring rhythm-guitar hooks that you've never heard before--and will notice so fast you'll make sure you get to notice them again. The overtly pop-avant moves would have garnered desperate if imprecise Beefheart comparisons in their time, and the Arto Lindsay translations have the makings of international legend. Paul Simon should be so smart. Not to mention postmodern. A+

dow, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 21:48 (nine years ago)

Not heard that as taht at least did just listen through Estudando o Samba and see that that had been oputon a 2fer cd which was the version I was listening to but seeems to be out of print and expensive now.
But may pick that up.

Just surprised taht nobody has that 70s stuff out currently. Is Mr Bongo working teir way through his catalogue or anything?

I have Caetano Veloso and Gilberto Gil cds that were pretty recent remasters when I got them aout 5 years ago. Is there a reason why they'd be done and not Zé?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 21:52 (nine years ago)

This may fit here, video of Maria Bethania with Bossa Nova Brazil from Oslo in '72
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=566405

may not be overly 'delic though so9 may not be quite tropicalia but she does have direct links with that scene

Stevolende, Thursday, 14 July 2016 09:55 (nine years ago)

Love her

Heez, Thursday, 14 July 2016 11:48 (nine years ago)

Reminds me: here's Olof Arnalds introducing and singing "Maria Bethania", written by her brother Caetano Veloso while in exile: "She has sold her soul to the Devil and bought a flat by the sea" sounds like "Good for you, Sis." Pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf9wRViJehQ

dow, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:48 (nine years ago)

six years pass...

How come I never heard of this album Mande Um Abraço Pra Velha before?

Old Man Reacts to Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 March 2023 15:09 (three years ago)

Seems like a comp, so most of it I’ve heard, but still might be useful

Old Man Reacts to Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 March 2023 15:16 (three years ago)


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