Your opinion, please: 366-band, 411 track 1981 box set

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I've been aware of ILM for some time, but I'm far more a listener than a talker when it comes to music. In a sense, that's what motivated the creation of the subject matter of this thread: I don't enjoy trying to tell people (especially younger, unexposed) people about music--rather, I prefer to simply play it for them. The 77-83 period being one of my favourites, one that (at least a couple years ago) was relatively underanthologised, I decided to make fairly extensive overviews of those years. 1981 was a descending period for some strains, the peak of others, and the baby steps of more--so it seemed to provide a good cross-section of what I love about the era.

The end result is this:

http://manireik.spymac.net/1981/

images:

http://manireik.spymac.net/1981/1981_front.jpg
http://manireik.spymac.net/1981/1981_inside.jpg
http://manireik.spymac.net/1981/1981_back.jpg

I've pressed 60 copies of the edition represented at that website. Response has been far more broadly positive than I could've imagined--I assumed the thing was a niche item for potentially obsessed young listeners. Several industry types (ILM types, for all I know) have been quite kind, giving it "we were there" approval.

Since the first run, I've corrected mistakes, added about 25 more bands and about 15 tracks, cleaned up several sequencing issues, and I am preparing to issue the 2nd edition (in a run of about 100 copies). I've "sold" all copies for cost of materials--the hundreds of hours (possibly thousands, by this point) I've put into the thing are purely a labour of love.

If ever I complete the other years I'm after--which will probably take years--they'll be a nice soundtrack to Reynolds' upcoming tome.

Most of the 100 are already reserved, but if anyone here is interested in a copy (though it's probably all stuff you have) then feel free to email me at soundslike1981@gmail.com

Thanks in advice for your opinions/advice.

I.M., Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link

*Matos and Donut faint*

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I already emailed you, but this looks ridiculous (in the best possible way) (then again I'm a gigantist by nature).

also, do be sure to check out The official CDR Go! thread, among many others here

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link

seen this before on other boards. Looks pretty fantastic, if a bit intimidating.

Hope you do '89 and '94 sometime.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Matos - thanks! Someone (maybe it was Chris Ott) pointed me to the CDR Go!s a while back--pretty impressive. This set is indeed narrower in scope (though still fairly broad, I'd say) than those--it's definitely not an "objective" encapsulation of the year.

What year would you lot say to do next? I did a smaller (3-disc) '79 set a couple years back, I'm thinking that may be the one.

I.M., Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Dr. Bill - I'm curious what other boards? EP, IHM?

I.M., Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Hipinion, I think.

'79 is a good year, too, though if you were going to make this a real series instead of just a synth-pop / post-punk chronicle, I'd do a more distant year.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey neat. :-) Let me drop you a line in a few minutes here...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, from the tracklist it's not looking too terribly real-seriesy

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 3 March 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

can you post the tracklisting here? i can't get the site to work.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Mullygrubbr -- I'll try and make a text version to post soon.

I didn't expect so many requests from the board--there are probably about 20 copies out of the 100 to be reserved. But I guess 100 isn't a magic number--just a bit tired of putting physically together ; ) So while I'll only guarantee to 100 for the moment (seriously, it takes hours and hours to make them) I'll do my best to accomidate anyone who wants a copy. I'd give about anything to make this a "real" release--there's probably only about 15% major-label content, but it's probably impossible. I wish I could do a charity thing--people would probably pay more than $13 for a charity copy.

I.M., Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

AMPLIFIER

1. [01] Embarrassment, The - Celebrity Art Party (1981) (3:06)
2. [02] Minutemen - Straight Jacket (1981) (0:57)
3. [03] Replacements, The - Johnny's Gonna Die (1981) (3:24)
4. [04] Flesh Eaters - Pray Til You Sweat (1981) (2:36)
5. [05] Black Flag - Louie Louie (1981) (1:19)
6. [06] Stiff Little Fingers - The Only One (1981) (4:18)
7. [07] Mx-80 - Cover To Cover (1981) (2:42)
8. [08] Meat Puppets - Big House (1981) (1:06)
9. [09] Agent Orange - Too Young To Die (1981) (2:04)
10. [10] Saints, The - Paradise (Edit) (1981) (2:56)
11. [11] Buzzcocks - I Look Alone (1981) (3:01)
12. [12] Empire - All These Things (1981) (3:15)
13. [13] Secret Hate - New Routines-Suicide (1981) (1:26)
14. [14] Gordons, The - Coalminers Song (1981) (5:43)
15. [15] Virgin Prunes - Twenty Tens (1981) (2:27)
16. [16] Cramps, The - Green Fuz (1981) (2:06)
17. [17] Minor Threat - Straight Edge (1981) (0:45)
18. [18] 100 Flowers - Reject Yourself (1981) (2:34)
19. [19] Undertones, The - Julie Ocean (1981) (1:46)
20. [20] Rudimentary Peni - Teenage Time Killer (1981) (1:11)
21. [21] Flipper - Ha Ha Ha (1981) (2:13)
22. [22] Mission of Burma - Fame and Fortune (1981) (3:35)
23. [23] Gun Club - Goodbye Johnny (1981) (3:45)
24. [24] Josef K - Crazy To Exist (1981) (2:57)
25. [25] Swimming Pool Q's - Rat Bait (1981) (2:21)
26. [26] Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off (1981) (0:59)
27. [27] Bush Tetras - Rituals (Edit) (1981) (3:02)
28. [28] Wipers - When It's Over (1981) (6:36)
29. [29] X - Adult Books (1981) (3:19)
30. [30] Zoomers - Give Your Heart (1981) (2:13)



BRAIN

31. [01] Art Bears - Truth (1981) (2:55)
32. [02] Birthday Party, The - Cry (1981) (2:41)
33. [03] Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft - Rote Lippen (1981) (2:44)
34. [04] Branca, Glenn - Structure (1981) (3:04)
35. [05] Nomi, Klaus - The Twist (1981) (3:06)
36. [06] Flying Lizards - Hands 2 Take (1981).wav
37. [07] Negativland - Dearmary (1981).wav
38. [08] New Age Steppers - Crazy Dreams & High Ideas (Edit) (1981).wav
39. [09] Lemon Kittens - Kites (1981).wav
40. [10] Trio - Kummer (1981) (2:40)
41. [11] Pere Ubu - Lonesome Cowboy Dave (1981).wav
42. [12] Residents, The - Would We Be Alive (Edit) (1981).wav
43. [13] Johnson, Matt - The River Flows East In Spring (Edit) (1981).wav
44. [14] Eyeless in Gaza - The Decoration (1981).wav
45. [15] Einstürzende Neubauten - Abstieg & Zerfall (1981).wav
46. [16] Fire Engines - Candyskin (1981).wav
47. [17] Section 25 - Hit (1981).wav
48. [18] Crass - Bata Motel (1981).wav
49. [19] Liaisons Dangereuses - Aperitif De La Mort (Edit) (1981).wav
50. [20] Crash Course in Science - Factory Forehead (1981).wav
51. [21] Foetus - Thank Heaven for Push Button Phones (1981).wav
52. [22] Cabaret Voltaire - A Touch Of Evil (Edit) (1981).wav
53. [23] Chrome - Planet Strike (1981).wav
54. [24] DNA - Blonde Red Head (1981).wav
55. [25] Clock DVA - 4 Hours (1981).wav
56. [26] Homosexuals - Nursery Chymes (1981).wav
57. [27] Mertins, Wim - Multiple 12 (Edit) (1981).wav
58. [28] This Heat - Makeshift Swahili (1981).wav


CONVERTIBLE

59. [01] Young Marble Giants - Final Day (1981) (1:43)
60. [02] Orange Juice - Poor Old Soul (1981).wav
61. [03] Martha & The Muffins - This Is the Ice Age (Edit) (1981).wav
62. [04] Altered Images - Happy Birthday (1981).wav
63. [05] Church, The - Too Fast For You (1981).wav
64. [06] Scritti Politti - The Sweetest Girl (Single) (Edit) (1981).wav
65. [07] Romeo Void - Myself To Myself (1981).wav
66. [08] Barracudas - Don't Let Go (1981).wav
67. [09] dB's, The - Black and White (1981).wav
68. [10] Go-Go's - Our Lips Are Sealed (1981).wav
69. [11] Magazine - The Honeymoon Killers (1981).wav
70. [12] Beat, The (English) - Too Nice To Talk To (1981).wav
71. [13] Marine Girls - Tonight (1981).wav
72. [14] Pretenders - Message of Love (1981).wav
73. [15] Necessaries - More Real (1981).wav
74. [16] Teardrop Explodes, The - Falling Down Around Me (1981).wav
75. [17] Squeeze - Is That Love (1981).wav
76. [18] Go Betweens, The - Your Turn, My Turn (1981).wav
77. [19] Hitchcock, Robyn - Love (1981).wav
78. [20] Stranglers, The - Golden Brown (1981).wav
79. [21] Ramones - It's Not My Place (1981).wav
80. [22] XTC - Respectable Street (1981).wav
81. [23] Pylon - Crazy (1981).wav
82. [24] Costello, Elvis - Strict Time (1981).wav
83. [25] REM - Radio Free Europe (1981).wav


CASSETTE

84. [01] Clean, The - Billy Two (1981) (2:22)
85. [02] Fall - Prole Art Threat (1981).wav
86. [03] Dow Jones & The Industrials - Ladies With Appliances (1981).wav
87. [04] Tronics - Cruisin (1981).wav
88. [05] Terraplanes - Evil Going On (1981).wav
89. [06] Nervous Gender - Fat Cow (1981).wav
90. [07] 49 Americans - Love at first sight (1981).wav
91. [08] Cardboards - On the R to TZ (1981).wav
92. [09] Felt - Something Sends Me to Sleep (1981).wav
93. [10] Concrete - Uranium (1981).wav
94. [11] Discount Chiefs - Different Light (1981).wav
95. [12] Disturbed - Betrayed (1981).wav
96. [13] Scapa Flow - Somewhere (1981).wav
97. [14] Dancing Cigarettes - Mr. Morse (1981).wav
98. [15] Amoebas In Chaos - Designer Genes (1981).wav
99. [16] Tall Dwarfs - All My Hollowness to You (1981).wav
100. [17] Monitor - Amphibious (1981).wav
101. [18] Dolphins - She Took a Long Cold Look (1981).wav
102. [19] Blue Orchids - Bad Education (1981).wav
103. [20] Voice Farm - AM City (Edit) (1981).wav
104. [21] Biting Tongues - Reflector (1981).wav
105. [22] Flux of Pink Indians - Sick Butchers (1981).wav
106. [23] Aztec Camera - Just Like Gold (1981).wav
107. [24] Diagram Brothers, The - Put It In A Bigger Box (1981).wav
108. [25] Pel Mel - Ipanema Mon Amour (1981).wav
109. [26] Marine Girls - Times We Used to Spend (1981) (1:44)
110. [27] Human Switchboard - I Used to Believe in You (1981).wav
111. [28] Social Climbers - Hello Texas (1981).wav
112. [29] Half Japanese - My Knowledge Was Wrong (1981).wav
113. [30] Television Personalities - This Angry Silence (1981).wav
114. [31] Via Veneto - Empty (Edit) (1981).wav
115. [32] Violent Femmes - Waiting For The Bus (Demo) (1981).wav
116. [33] Thick Pigeon - Silhouettes (1981).wav


COMPUTER

117. [01] Depeche Mode - Just Can't Get Enough (1981).wav
118. [02] Japan - Talking Drum (1981).wav
119. [03] Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft - Der Mussolini (Edit) (1981).wav
120. [04] Associates - White Car In Germany (Edit) (1981).wav
121. [05] Devo - Working In A Coal Mine (1981).wav
122. [06] Heaven 17 - The Height Of The Fighting (1981).wav
123. [07] Eurythmics - Take Me To Your Heart (1981).wav
124. [08] Dolby, Thomas - Europa & The Pirate Twins (1981).wav
125. [09] Plastics - Diamond Head (1981).wav
126. [10] Yello - Bostich (1981).wav
127. [11] Numan, Gary - Stories (1981).wav
128. [12] New Musik - Areas (1981).wav
129. [13] Blue Nile, The - I Love This Life (1981) (3:46)
130. [14] Duran Duran - Girls on Film (1981).wav
131. [15] Gottsching, Manuel - E2 E4 (Excerpt) (1981).wav
132. [16] Teardrop Explodes, The - The In-Psychlopedia (Edit) (1981).wav
133. [17] Cybotron - Alleys Of Your Mind (1981).wav
134. [18] Buggles, The - Blue Nylon (1981).wav
135. [19] Soft Cell - Tainted Love (1981).wav
136. [20] Cars - Shake It Up (Edit) (1981).wav
137. [21] Classix Nouveaux - 623 (1981).wav
138. [22] Tuxedomoon - Incubus (Blue Suit) (1981).wav
139. [23] Human League - The Things That Dreams Are Made Of (1981).wav
140. [24] Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Sacred Heart (1981).wav
141. [25] Kraftwerk - Computer Love (Edit) (1981).wav


FEET

142. [01] British Electronic Foundation - Rise of the East (1981).wav
143. [02] Bush Tetras - You Can't Be Funky (1981).wav
144. [03] Heaven 17 - We're Going To Live (Edit) (1981).wav
145. [04] Foxx, John - Europe After the Rain (1981).wav
146. [05] Dome - D-D-Bo (1981).wav
147. [06] 23 Skidoo - Last Words (1981).wav
148. [07] ESG - UFO (1981).wav
149. [08] Gang of Four - What We All Want (1981).wav
150. [09] Rip Rig Panic - How Caged Bird (1981) (3:32)
151. [10] Logic, Lora - Wonderful Offer (1981).wav
152. [11] Mekons - St Patrick's Day (1981).wav
153. [12] Newman, Colin - Alone (1981).wav
154. [13] Kraftwerk - Numbers (1981).wav
155. [14] Liquid Liquid - Zero Leg (1981).wav
156. [15] Massacre - Gate (1981).wav
157. [16] Family Fodder - Film Music (1981).wav
158. [17] Goat that Went Om - The Pirate Song (1981).wav
159. [18] Dif Juz - Diselt (1981).wav
160. [19] This Heat - Paper Hats (Edit) (1981).wav
161. [20] Trio - Danger Is (1981).wav
162. [21] Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - The New Stone Age (1981).wav
163. [22] Pigbag - Sunny Day (Edit) (1981).wav
164. [23] Public Image Ltd - Flowers of Romance (1981).wav
165. [24] YMO - Light in Darkness (1981).wav


FIRE

166. [01] A Certain Ratio - Waterline (1981).wav
167. [02] New Order - Chosen Time (1981).wav
168. [03] Fad Gadget - Make Room (Edit) (1981).wav
169. [04] Fun Boy Three - The Lunatics (1981).wav
170. [05] Byrne, David - The Red House (1981).wav
171. [06] Creatures - But Not Them (1981).wav
172. [07] Raybeats - Calhoun Surf (1981).wav
173. [08] Josef K - Heart Of Song (1981).wav
174. [09] Thomas, David - Crickets in the Flats (1981).wav
175. [10] Killing Joke - Butcher (Edit) (1981).wav
176. [11] B-52's, The - Give Me Back My Man (Remix) (Edit) (1981) (3:04)
177. [12] Dif Juz - Soarn (Excerpt) (1981).wav
178. [13] Hitchcock, Robyn - Grooving on a Inner Plane (Edit) (1981).wav
179. [14] INXS - Stay Young (1981).wav
180. [15] Lounge Lizards - Do The Wrong Thing (1981).wav
181. [16] Prince - Controversy (Edit) (1981).wav
182. [17] Pigbag - Papa's Got Brand New Pigbag (Single Version) (1981).wav
183. [18] Talking Heads - Houses In Motion (Edit) (1981).wav
184. [19] Bauhaus - Of Lillies and Remains (1981).wav
185. [20] Specials, The - Ghost Town (Edit) (1981).wav
186. [21] Tom Tom Club - Genius Of Love (1981).wav
187. [22] Wire - Midnight Bahnhof Cafe (Edit) (1981).wav
188. [23] Family Fodder - Emergency (1981).wav
189. [24] Raincoats - Shouting Out Loud (1981).wav


HEART

190. [01] Cure, The - All Cats Are Grey (1981).wav
191. [02] Passions - Alice's Song (1981).wav
192. [03] Depeche Mode - Any Second Now (Voices) (1981).wav
193. [04] Durutti Column - The Missing Boy (1981).wav
194. [05] Costello, Elvis & The Attractions - Gloomy Sunday (1981).wav
195. [06] Mx-80 - Promise of Love (1981).wav
196. [07] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (Edit) (1981).wav
197. [08] New Order - Doubts Even Here (1981) (4:20)
198. [09] Shelley, Pete - It's Hard Enough Knowing (Edit) (1981).wav
199. [10] Sound, The - Winning (1981).wav
200. [11] Japan - Ghosts (1981).wav
201. [12] This Heat - A New Kind Of Water (1981).wav
202. [13] Raincoats - Only Loved At Night (1981).wav
203. [15] Gist - Love at First Sight (1981).wav
204. [15] Numan, Gary - Dance (1981).wav
205. [16] Psychedelic Furs - No Tears (1981).wav
206. [17] Gang of Four - Paralysed (1981).wav
207. [18] Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark - Romance Of The Telescope (1981).wav
208. [19] Ultravox - Rage In Eden (1981).wav
209. [20] Weekend - Nostalgia (Demo) (1981).wav


ICICLE

210. [01] Czukay, Holger - Fragrance (Edit) (1981) (3:16)
211. [02] Harrison, Jerry - Worlds In Collision (1981).wav
212. [03] Comsat Angels - Restless (1981).wav
213. [04] Selecter - Their Dream Goes On (1981).wav
214. [05] Tall Dwarfs - Luck of Loveliness (1981).wav
215. [06] Gun Club - Promise Me (1981).wav
216. [07] ESG - You're No Good (1981).wav
217. [08] Siouxsie & the Banshees - Into The Light (1981).wav
218. [09] Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Telephone and Rubber Band (1981).wav
219. [10] Anderson, Laurie - O Superman (For Massenet) (1981).wav
220. [11] Phew - Fragment (Edit) (1981).wav
221. [12] Thomas, David - Big Dreams (1981).wav
222. [13] Del-Byzanteens, The - Girl's Imagination (1981).wav
223. [14] Was (Not Was) - Oh, Mr Friction (1981) (3:32)
224. [15] Eno, Brian & David Byrne - A Secret Life (1981).wav
225. [16] Echo & The Bunnymen - All My Colours (1981).wav
226. [17] Material - Square Dance (1981).wav
227. [18] Sakamoto, Ryuichi - Kachakuchane (Edit) (1981).wav
228. [19] Slits, The - Earthbeat (Peel Session) (Edit) (1981).wav
229. [20] Wyatt, Robert - Born Again Cretin (1981).wav
230. [21] Delta 5 - Different Fur (1981).wav


BRIEFCASE

231. 45 Grave - 45 Grave (1981) (3:21)
232. 999 - Bongos on the Nile (1981) (2:55)
233. A Flock of Seagulls - Telecommunication (1981) (2:32)
234. ABC - Tears Are Not Enough (Edit) (1981) (2:22)
235. Adam & The Ants - Prince Charming (1981) (3:17)
236. Airmail - In a Moment (1981) (5:16)
237. Alternative TV - My Hand Is Still Wet (1981) (3:19)
238. Angelic Upstarts - I Understand (1981) (2:53)
239. Aquila - Without a Care (1981) (4:17)
240. Article 58 - Lost & Found (1981) (3:26)
241. Au Pairs - Love Song (1981) (2:48)
242. Avacados - I Never Knew (1981) (2:23)
243. Babylon Dance Band - Remains of the Beat (1981) (1:47)
244. Bangs - Getting Out Of Hand (1981) (2:12)
245. Beelzebub Youth - Push Push Push (1981) (2:04)
246. Ben Watt - Cant (1981) (3:17)
247. Black Flag - What I See (1981) (1:55)
248. Blah Blah Blah - Central Park (1981) (3:53)
249. Blancmange - Sad Day (Early) (1981) (2:24)
250. Blondie - Rapture (Edit) (1981) (3:39)
251. B-Movie - Remembrance Day (1981) (3:44)
252. Bouncing Czechs - 1992 (Edit) (1981) (2:23)
253. Bow Wow Wow - Why Are Babies So Wise (1981) (2:55)
254. Bunnydrums - Little Room (1981) (3:05)
255. Buzz - Life Ends (1981) (1:57)
256. Cardboards - Electrical Generator (1981) (3:32)
257. Chameleons - Here Today (BBC) (1981) (3:44)
258. Chefs - Someone I Know (1981) (2:07)
259. Chemicals Made From Dirt - Ike (1981) (2:27)
260. Christian Death - Dogs (1981) (2:54)
261. Club Tango - Performance (Edit) (1981) (2:24)
262. Colours Out of Time - The Waiting (BBC) (1981) (3:39)
263. Commericals - Simon (1981) (2:18)
264. Comsat Angels - Now I Know (BBC) (1981) (4:14)
265. Conservatives - Suburban Bitch (1981) (1:21)
266. Crispy Ambulance - The Presence (Edit) (1981).mp3
267. Cure, The - Primary (1981).mp3
268. Dalek I Love You - Heartbeat (1981).mp3
269. Damned, The - Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (Edit) (1981) (2:52)
270. Dancing Cigarettes - Puppies in a Sack (1981).mp3
271. Dangerous Girls - Men in Suits (1981).mp3
272. Danse Society - Continent (1981).mp3
273. Dark Day - Extermination (1981).mp3
274. Deep Freeze Mice - Dr. Z (1981).mp3
275. Department S - Age Concern (1981).mp3
276. Dif Juz - Cs (1981).mp3
277. Digital Dinosaurs - The Sideways Man (1981).mp3
278. DNA - 5-30 (1981).mp3
279. Doctor Mix & The Remix - Brand New Cadillac (1981).mp3
280. Dramatis - Love Needs No Disguise (1981).mp3
281. Dum Dum Dum - Dum Dum Dum (1981).mp3
282. Effigies - Strong Box (1981).mp3
283. Eight Eyed Spy - Lazy In Love (1981) (2:57)
284. Ejectors - Little Johnny (1981).mp3
285. Embarrassment, The - Sexy Singer Girl (1981).mp3
286. Eno, Brian and David Byrne - Mea Culpa (Edit) (1981).mp3
287. Essential Logic - Fanfare In the Garden (1981).mp3
288. Ex, The - Weapons for El Salvador (1981).mp3
289. Factrix - Thin Line (1981).mp3
290. Fair, Jad - Fish Can Talk (1981).mp3
291. Fall, The - Middle Mass (1981).mp3
292. Family Fodder - Dinosaur Sex (1981).mp3
293. Fast Set, The - King of the Rumbling Spires (1981).mp3
294. Fifteen Minutes - Last Chance for You (1981).mp3
295. Fingerprintz - Shadowed (1981).mp3
296. Five Or Six - The Trial (1981) (2:49)
297. Fleshtones - The Dreg (1981).mp3
298. Freddy And The Fruitloops - Right & Wrong (1981).mp3
299. Front 242 - Body to Body (1981).mp3
300. Generation X - Dancing With Myself (1981).mp3
301. George Harrassment - Yoghurt (1981).mp3
302. Gifted Children - Lichtenstein Girl (1981).mp3
303. Gilbert & Lewis - Hung Up To Dry Whilst Building An Arch (1981).mp3
304. Girls At Our Best - Go for Gold (1981).mp3
305. Gizmos - Biscuits & Gravy (1981).mp3
306. Goldman, Vivien - Launderette (1981).mp3
307. Haig, Paul - Mad Horses (1981).mp3
308. Haircut 100 - Favourite Shirt (1981) (3:05)
309. Homosexuals - In Search of the Perfect Baby (1981).mp3
310. Icehouse - Icehouse (Edit) (1981).mp3
311. Icicle Works - When Winter Lasted Forever (Edit) (1981).mp3
312. It's Immaterial - A Gigantic Raft (Edit) (1981).mp3
313. Jackson, Joe - Beat Crazy (1981).mp3
314. Jagatara - Hey Say! (Edit) (1981).mp3
315. Jam, The - Absolute Beginners (1981) (2:52)
316. Kontakt Microfoon Orkest - Do the Residue (1981).mp3
317. Lambrettas, The - Decent Town (1981).mp3
318. Last Four Digits - Diddy Wah Diddy (1981).mp3
319. Legal Weapon - Daddy's Gone Mad (1981).mp3
320. Liaisons Dangereuses - Etre Assis Ou Danser (1981).mp3
321. Liliput - Eisiger Wind (1981).mp3
322. Limp, The - Marked Man (1981).mp3
323. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (In) (1981) (3:57)
324. Lovich, Lene - New Toy (1981).mp3
325. Lowest Note on the Organ - Piggy Bank (1981).mp3
326. Ludus - Mutilate (1981).mp3
327. Malaria - How Do You Like My New Dog (1981).mp3
328. Marine - Life in Reverse (1981).mp3
329. Mass - Cross Purposes (1981).mp3
330. Massacre - Subway Heart (1981).mp3
331. Maximum Joy - Strech (Edit) (1981) (2:57)
332. Medium Medium - The Glitterhouse (1981).mp3
333. Men At Work - Who Can It Be Now (1981).mp3
334. Metal Urbain - Hysterie Connective (Early Version) (1981).mp3
335. Meteors - Graveyard Stomp (1981).mp3
336. Minny Pops - Dolphin's Spurt (1981) (2:56)
337. Misfits, The - Halloween (1981).mp3
338. Modern English - Black Houses (1981).mp3
339. Monochrome Set - Ten Don'ts For Honeymooners (1981).mp3
340. Mr Science - Mr. Science (1981) (2:23)
341. My Captains - Converse (1981).mp3
342. Names - Music For Someone (1981) (1:56)
343. Native Hipsters - Tropical Fish in the Sink (1981).mp3
344. Neu Electrikk - Lust of Berlin (1981) (2:46)
345. New Musik - This World Of Walter (1981).mp3
346. No More - Suicide Commando (1981).mp3
347. Oingo Boingo - Capitalism (1981).mp3
348. Orange Juice - Wan Light (1981).mp3
349. Our Daughter's Wedding - Airlines (1981).mp3
350. Passage - Hip Rebels (1981).mp3
351. Pin Group - Ambivalence (1981).mp3
352. Plimsouls - Mini-Skirt Minnie (1981).mp3
353. Poison Girls - Ideologically Unsound (1981).mp3
354. Police, The - Darkness (1981).mp3
355. Polyphonic Size - Mothers Little Helper (1981) (3:06)
356. Polyrock - Rain (1981).mp3
357. Pop, Iggy - Sea of Love (1981).mp3
358. Post Raisin Band - Pink Lincoln (1981).mp3
359. Predator - He Thinks He Knows Me (1981).mp3
360. Public Image Ltd - Go Back (1981) (3:47)
361. Quad Pi - Near You (1981).mp3
362. Red Asphalt - Red Asphalt (1981).mp3
363. Red Cross - Puss 'N' Boots (1981).mp3
364. Red Krayola - An Old Man's Dream (1981).mp3
365. Reflections - 4 Countries (1981).mp3
366. Room, The - Bated Breath (1981) (4:01)
367. Russell, Arthur - Sketch for Face of Helen (Edit) (1981) (3:31)
368. Scientists - She Said She Loves Me (1981).mp3
369. Second Layer - Distortion (Edit).mp3
370. Simple Minds - Theme for Great Cities (Edit) (1981).mp3
371. Slow Children- Spring in Fialta (1981).mp3
372. Social Distortion - Telling Them (1981).mp3
373. Sort Sol - Misguided (1981).MP3
374. Spandau Ballet - To Cut A Long Story Short (Edit) (1981).mp3
375. Splodgenessabounds - Cowpunk Medlum (1981) (2:36)
376. Stranglers - Everybody Loves You When you're Dead (1981).mp3
377. Suburban Lawns - Computer Date (1981).mp3
378. Subway Sect, The - Parallel Lines (1981).mp3
379. Surplus Stock - Let's Kill Each Other (1981).mp3
380. Swamp Children - Call Me Honey (1981) (4:54)
381. Swell Maps - Forest Fire (released 1981) (3:01)
382. Takahashi, Yukihiro - Something in the Air (1981) (4:51)
383. Tame O'Mearas - Curl Curl (1981) (2:18)
384. Teardrop Explodes, The - ...and The Fighting Takes Over (1981) (3:54)
385. Teenage Filmstars - I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape (1981) (2:56)
386. Telefones - Solid Ground (1981) (3:12)
387. The Past Seven Days - Raindance (Edit) (1981) (4:58)
388. The The - Untitled (1981) (3:23)
389. Theatre of Hate - My Own Invention (1981) (3:17)
390. Theoretical Girls - Electronic Angie (Studio) (1981) (3:37)
391. Thompson Twins - Politics (1981) (2:20)
392. Times, The - Biff! Bang! Pow! (1981) (2:52)
393. Triffids - This Boy (1981) (2:56)
394. TSOL - I'm Tired Of Life (1981) (1:51)
395. Tucker, Maureen - Louie Louie (1981) (2:41)
396. Two by Fours - Another 8 Hours (1981) (1:34)
397. UB40 - One in Ten (1981) (4:33)
398. Urban Verbs - Business and the Rational Mind (1981) (4:52)
399. Urinals - I Hate (1981) (2:03)
400. Vapors, The - Jimmie Jones (1981) (3:24)
401. Visage - Mind Of A Toy (1981) (4:28)
402. Vital Disorder - Let's Talk About Prams (1981) (2:17)
403. Walking Floors - No Next Time (1981) (2:27)
404. Wall of Voodoo - Crack the Bell (1981) (3:33)
405. Wanderers - Beyond the Law (1981) (2:08)
406. Weirdos, The - Weird World (Demo) (1981) (3:02)
407. Wild West - Fierce Atoms (1981) (2:25)
408. xAx - Banging Your Head (1981) (3:42)
409. Xpozez - New Law (1981) (1:19)
410. Zoomers - From the Planet Moon (1981) (2:56)
411. Zounds - Demystification (1981) (3:45)

I.M., Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Absolutely astounding. All the copies are probably gone by now. *Sigh*

But great work! Incredible!

ffirehorse (firehorse), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

whoah!

its not mp3s?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

ffirehorse -- Thanks so much! There are still copies (well, spots to reserve a copy when they're finished) available.

Getting these things to people I know will enjoy them, and maybe even appreciate all the work that went into them, makes it all worth it. I've been working on this thing with varying attention since summer 2003.

I.M., Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

411 tracks and not one of them is called "Bette Davis Eyes"??

It looks like you steered clear of all of the big chart hits, though.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

mullygrubbr---

No, it's 9 80min CDs and and 1 mp3-CD. About 85% of it is sourced from my own collection (CDs and vinyl, including Chuck Warner's hyped2death discs). I've "hand levilised" the tracks using careful combinations of normalising and judicious graphic dynamics, and hand-removed vinyl pops in many cases. For the 2nd edition, I'm using nice white-on-top CD-Rs with my thermal printer (black on white) to better match the packaging.

http://manireik.spymac.net/1981/1981_inside.jpg
http://manireik.spymac.net/1981/1981_front.jpg

I.M., Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

MindInRewind ---

Yeah, it's not meant to be "objective" (like I gather the CDR700 Go! collections). Though a number of these tracks did chart, in England.

I.M., Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

my god

BanjoMania (Brilhante), Thursday, 3 March 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

BanjoMania ---

"My god" good or bad?

I.M., Friday, 4 March 2005 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link

IM, it's got to be 'my god' good. gorgeous box.

jergins (jergins), Friday, 4 March 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

"objective" isn't really the word for CD-R Go!, though, because those are pretty much completely reflective of their compilers' tastes. (See Andy Kellman's for example, which have 80 songs each: http://www.jodeeandy.com/cdr700go!/)

(also, shamless plug time: Seattle Weekly now has a weekly column called CD-R Go!, check out the first one by me: http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0509/050302_music_cdrgo.php)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 4 March 2005 00:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Jergins ---

Thanks so much! It's definitely an example of making the most of my material limitations, but I think in the end it doesn't look too cheap. I would've liked to have a square-shaped booklet, but folding/cutting an 8.5x11 is just more practical.

I.M., Friday, 4 March 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I know this may sound silly, but if anyone could point this thread out to Simon Reynolds, I've been keen to get him a copy ever since I found out a few months ago that he was doing a textual equivalent.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link

(I am pleased you like "Heartbeat," Matos!)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

That is an absolutely gorgeous box indeed, I.M. Well done! What a way to make a splash on this board. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

*Patrin does not faint; spends time wondering where all the rap is instead*

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

(I kid, this is truly an admirably batshit undertaking and I am way the hell impressed.)

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't enjoy trying to tell people (especially younger, unexposed) people about music

No! School us! How did you do this? Did you own and listen to all these records in 1981, or have you accumulated all these over time? I'm just asking because I'll probably be the average ILMer in, er, eight(?) years, meaning that I pay close attention to and consume music at an alarming rate-- but I couldn't dream of making an anthology like this for, say, 2004... I just looked through the tracklisting, and I only recognized about eighty of the bands. Did you own a record shop or something?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, man. what a great idea. rip that to ipod, shuffle, flashback. crazy.

john'n'chicago, Friday, 4 March 2005 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Stupornaut ---

haha thanks. I considered getting in some hip-hop, but I didn't want to be cursory or throw in some token Flash track. Clearly the scenes coallesced at points (NY at least) but I was primarily interested in helping young people (my age and younger) who suddenly the last couple years find it hip to call things "post-punk revival" or "dancepunk" or whatever that there was a lot more to the 78-82 period than Joy Division, Gang of Four, and maybe (if the kid is adventuresome) Wire, much as I love those bands. I split the set up into varyingly definable sounds/feelings/aesthetics to make it more approachable, but the point remains that even though you could probably call 90%+ of it "post-punk," there was a hell of a lot going on. I included a smattering of sub-Hannet-wannabe stuff, but mostly I went for breadth.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Poortheatre ---

I am an addict, plain and simple. I don't know what the "average" ILMer is, but to put it this way: I could've bought at least a couple cars with the money I've spent on music since I was 12. I'm not proud of it in some capitalist aquisitive way--it's just that music is not an option, it's life. That's probably true for most people here (or they wouldn't be here taking all this stuff so seriously-not-seriously). I can't think of anything else on which I'd rather have blown almost every discretionary penny I've earned. I wish I owned a record shop, but I've never even worked at one.

I'll tell you a little secret (not much of one--it's in the opening "essay" for the set)--I was a year old in 1981. I'm ambivalent about how this fact affects my appreciation of all this music. On the one hand, it means I'm hearing things slightly less in terms of whats considered cool at the time; on the other hand, maybe "what's cool" is valid, and I'm not getting the full picture from the recorded sounds alone. I'm fascinated to hear from people who were there about the whole thing--whether the relative inaccessibility of it all made it an elitist bastion, whether the internet deomcratises things--or whether because it was so scarce it was much more community-driven, that its expansiveness came from the necessity of staying busy. I tend to come down on the feeling that I like how I've heard the music--that much as an honest, non-selfconscious scene (a rare thing indeed) can be exhilirating, I'm more likely to have an honest response to the music "on its own terms" coming to it all after the fact and with relatively little knowledge of ephemeral elements. I could be wrong.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I was a year old in 1981

! My, that's dedication to be showing when you were a year old. ;-) (I tease, etc.)

I sympathize with you on the money/car thing. Happily I have never owned a car. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah cars are for suckers, anyway

chris andrews (fraew), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, if I never have to drive a car again I'll be a happy man. Millstone around the neck.

I work in preservation/restoration architecture and even though I live in a small city, I'm a pretty rabid urbanist. So I like to explain to people who love their cars why I find the utter and total reliance on them (indeed, the razind and reconstruction of society to accommodate them) so absurd in the following way: imagine instead of being on wheels, imagine cars were the same amount of metal and glass and rubber all put together into a big 14'-tall "Mech". Then imagine every suburban mother hopping into her 4,000-pound robot to go to the grocery for milk and bread! Fucking insane, but not much scarrier than the way freeways and cul-de-sacced squirrely over-wide roads look to me.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 4 March 2005 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Well. This raises the bar considerably.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, Fraew! I didn't see it was you at first. How many EPers post here?


Michael ---

I'm not sure what I raised the bar on besides time-sucking geek hobbies, but . . . thanks!

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 4 March 2005 06:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Proof that (as I originally knew) 1981 was the best year in music.

Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 4 March 2005 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I need this...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 March 2005 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Gorgeous box IM, great job.

blawa (blawa), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

reading about borderline-crazy devotion to music like this reminds me I love music too even if sometimes I can forget (and kinda makes me wnt to cry wet tears of joy) and I guess I'm just saying I'd be more than thankful to just know tht this kind of thing exists and tht you, I.M., went to the (good god it must be almost thankless) task & effort of compiling it and then distributing at cost but the fact that it's available, fr sale, good god! I'd definitely be interested in a copy if thr's one left.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 March 2005 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you all so much for your kind words. I did this thing because I wanted to, but it does make me very happy that others appreciate all the effort, and more importantly, appreciate the music that means so much to me.

I'm within a couple spots of 100 as of 10:20A.M. C.S.T., but if you think you would enjoy the set, I still welcome requests. I simply can't guarantee that I will get to those beyond 100 in the immediate future. As the interest seems to be there, however, I guess I have a responsibility to meet it as best I can. If you're willing to wait a little longer (perhaps a month) by all means, go ahead and write to me.

Again, thanks, all. I envisioned this thread quickly falling into oblivion---this is much more fun.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 4 March 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I e-mailed you about this, IM. I'm probably the sort of person this is aimed at (I was born 5 years after this all happened) and this period is one that I haven't properly explored yet. Everything I know on these discs is some of my favorite music, so I'm drooling at the thought of all the music I've missed!

This really is a beautiful thing. You should be proud.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Friday, 4 March 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Man, I'm old enough to remember the year in completeness, and I missed a lot of it. 50% or thereabouts...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 March 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I've pressed 60 copies

I'm using nice white-on-top CD-Rs

So are these (in any case, very wonderful) cd's pressed, or burned? I gotta say, it's really impressive how you've gotten some of the more underground stuff on here (e.g. Monitor, Nervous Gender)

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Hats off to I.M. for this labour of (indie) love.

Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I think someone should sing it all the way through for charity.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

(hope you got my e-mail, i.m.)

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

These Robust Cookies ---

Oh, they're burned. Very home-made affair. It would be amazing to make a "real" version, but I'm sure it'd cost more than I earn in a decade.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., I'd love to reserve one, but the contact link on your site isn't working. Help.

San Carlos (San Carlos), Friday, 4 March 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah. *sigh* please don't hold that against me, wasn't my idea, to be sure. I consider making this set the opposite of bloated, self-obsessed post-liberal arts criticism.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link

no grudges on my end--hell, they name-checked me (though they should've mentioned Nate Patrin, who started the whole CDR700 Go! thing)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

but I couldn't dream of making an anthology like this for, say, 2004

Especially if you had to own 80% of the CDs!

I picked up a copy of I.M.'s box on the original pressing and it is indeed a lot of fun. Good on ya, *i. Stop making this thing and get to work on 1991. :D

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

A series of other single-year retrospectives have been given birth in recent years by the denizens of the music critic circle-jerk I Love Music

And this is PITCHFORK saying this.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Poly. I'm not the man to cover '91--but it would be damned cool to see other years done up like this. I still probably will do 1979, but I doubt I'll have the energy for any more.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link

This is really impressive. I was born in 1981 and therefore I'm like.. huh! >>>> Where can I get this Box, I.M? - and how much does it cost?

XEON, Saturday, 5 March 2005 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Just thought I'd let everyone know, the 100 I know I'll make (because I've already bought the materials) have been reserved. However, because demand has exceeded my wildest expectations, I'll probably make more. So please feel free to email me, and I'll put you on the waiting list. I'll probably want a break after I get the 100 made, but I'll probably make more within about a month.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 5 March 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm keen to know your opinions on the concepts of "musical tutelage," or "the importance of going it alone," all that. In other words, what is the importance of the process/method/path of discovery in the listening experience over years of ones life.

It's possible that I'm prone to over-emphasising the advantages of the soujourner path. I had no cool older sibling, no hip (only hippie) parents, and lived mostly in smallish towns and medium cities that could hardly be consdered record shop hotbeds (though after initiated into musical obsession, I later discovered they often had the most cohesive, passionate kind of local music scenes around). My parents instilled in me a sense that music was important (and gave me one of my great loves, Joni Mitchell) but didn't have much breadth to share. I'm still not really sure how I got from The Beatles and Smashing Pumpkins and Simon & Garfunkel at age 13 to Sunny Day Real Estate and Stereolab at 17 to where I am today at 24. I didn't have the internet till I was 17; I didn't even have MTV (120 minutes seems to have influenced quite a few burgeoning music kids in the 90s). So I suppose I carried an inflated sense of my own luck, my own instincts--I managed to get here (here being nothing impressive, you know, a predictable 500 records of Jazz/Blues/World Music etc., but it's a start) "without any help".

Which for a while I was troubled when I found myself being adopted as some sort of knowledgeable figure by younger/less experienced kids some years back. Partly this was due to the fact that I didn't (and still don't really) feel I have much musical knowledge--just a record collection a little larger than most "normal" people my age. But the primary source of misgiving came from a distrust of "giving it away," not in the elitist sense that "I've earned it and you haven't"--I've always assumed that notion to be obvious bullshit, though many of you may disagree. But rather I hesitated because I wondered if somehow I might be depriving people of something if I cut out the "labourious" process of trial and error, the often tedious and risky adventure of placing your own money on the counter. I wondered--would I have really appreciated the music as much, if I hadn't had to "work" for it?

If it tells you anything about where I ended up, I eventually gave 70 mp3-CDs filled with roughly the first eight years of my serious music addiction to a younger cousin. Though I have friends who claim that "the internet ruined music," I decided that even for me, there was relatively little "work" involved in the "process of discovery" anymore. Even before it was common to have high-speed internet and good p2p like Soulseek, the "challenges" were essentially whittled down to "do you have the money to afford to be eclectic". I began to ask, what did it mean to have "earned" ones musical knowledge? Pitchfork might be ruining young minds with their awful writing, but hipster "cheat sheets" had been a staple of "musical knowledge" since well before I was born. My own "country mouse" success story in some ways notwithstanding, hadn't the primary determinant of being musically-in-the-know really come down to a few very undemocratic and ultimately ephemeral things: where you happened to live, how much discretionary money you had, and who you knew (whether people or zines)? Where was "PASSION" on the list? Sure, someone with passion AND all the aforementioned advantages could live a great musical life. But for him the "process of discovery" was about as tricky as popping down to Rough Trade to see what'd come in this week (to exagerate). Meanwhile someone with no real passion but a desire to be seen as "hip" could also pop on down. Meanwhile the passionate kid in the hinterland (or the poor kid in the suburbs) had to stagnate with frustration; or, as in my case, find mail-order, making the process not really so difficult, but not that romantic, either.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm still the sort who needs to "own" the record--mp3's don't count--as my bank account can attest. I'm not even proud of this, as it probably comes down to some consumerist materialism as much as any ethical imperative. But let's be honest--the glory of crate digging, the joy of a good local shop, blowing sizeable savings each visit to London or New York--these are all enjoyable, and it's reasonable to wear them as badges of verity (in our own geek minds, at least). Chatting down at the shop or spinning at the radio station--these will always have a visceral appeal that things like typing away on ILM etc. can't provide. But what are we really on about, ultimately? What compels us to take part in all these geeky rituals? (And being honest, when I see Trekkies, I know that but for the grace of God, there go my passions--we're not that different.) It has to be The Sounds Themselves.

As the 1981 set itself attests, I've clearly come down that "giving it away" is a logical fallacy. All that you can give to a passionate kid, a neophyte who would know more, will only fuel the fire. None of us (well, maybe a few at this place, but in general) knows everything, and I imagine we'd get depressed if we thought we did (and probably all of us, at least early on, hit that wall of asking, "is this it?" before the next thrill of discovery). So what's the damage done if some kid hears This Heat at 16 on a silly boxed set, instead of waiting around till luck of Pitchfork exposure and the whimsy of reissues made it more likely? I say, more power to him--that's less time he might waste on lesser stuff.

Which brings up my final potential qualm about "giving it away": does a "musical tutor" not risk simply indoctrinating his "puil," risk blunting the development of his capacity for discrimination? Well, I'll pose another question in response. For those of you lucky enough to have been the right age at the right time in the right time for Peel's golden age: did you simply take his word on every track? Or even if you did initially, did his opinions remain yours for good? Well, compared to any of us, John Peel is the "tutoring" God; and if God's own trumpet didn't deafen your own opinions, then I think none of us is likely to do so for anyone else. I say: exposure, exposure, exposure. People may not be ready for everything all at once--and so the temporal facet of our beloved "process of discovery" will inevitably reassert itself. Even if some kid queues up half your collection on Soulseek (as numerous have done mine,) it will take them plenty of time to even hear it all, much less listen to any of it. So I embrace the democratic age of access; don't fear the instantaneousness of it all--our ears and our hearts are still analogue, and for those with passion, the process will still take time. Passion should be the only criterion for gaining access to the beautiful world of music (and paying in to keep the practical side will come with salaries, years on).

I love listening to my collection, and remembering that I bought this record in 2001 on a trip to Philly to meet some girl I barely knew, and listened to it the first time we made love; or that it was recommended me by a kindly shop owner in 1996, and that it changed my life. I doubt that many kids will remember "I downloaded this album, the modified date says, on 5th May 2005, along with these other 10 albums". They will, isntead, form their own memories--when the music first meant something to them, what was happening, maybe even when they got the money together to go out and buy the record. I'm not worried we stand to lose anything important.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 5 March 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Please forgive the rough-shod nature of that schpiel. I'm not a writer, obviously--which is really why I made the 1981 set in the first place, so that I wouldn't have to try and explain anything ; ) My poor grammar and spelling aside, I hope I got something in there to get you going--even if to scream, "you've got it all wrong, you moron".

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 5 March 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Also---if anyone here who *is* a writer is bored enough that they might dash together a more cogent introductory essay for the 1981 set than the one I wrote for the 1st Edition (below), I'd be eternally grateful.


Intro to the 1981 box, 1st Edition:

My first idea of how to introduce this set was to start with a question: "what do we do when we realise Pandora's box is never going to shut?" I wanted to persuade you that the music heard on this set provides one answer to that question: if our belief in fundamental order is shaken, we resolve to make a beautiful mess. I wanted to argue that a lot of this music is part of a lineage of noble "outré" and progressive popular art made by people trying to restore hope and meaning amidst derelict shells of classicism, modernism, and post-modernism. I would also have tried to say something pithy regarding the historical context of this music, about how the shattering of the notion of monolithic cultures made music like this possible, and necessary; and about Thatcher, Reagan, suburbs, post-industrial economics, the dole, the rise of fundamentalism and yuppiedom and anti-disco rockism.But the truth is, I was in diapers in 1981. As far as outré music is concerned, I have less than a decade of experience with the stuff. My parents were hippies spinning Joni Mitchell and James Taylor records in the '80s. They imbued me with a sense that music was deeply important, but didn't have much of its sonic breadth to share. I "know" about as much about music as could be expected of any musically obsessed twenty-four year old who spent high-school in the School of Indie Rock, owns only a couple hundred jazz records, a hundred (predictable) hip-hop records, overuses Skip James on mixes, and only heard his first Talking Heads album as a junior in high school. What I mean is: I still function musically primarily on passion, not knowledge. I'm confident about my abilities to put together a good mix for just about any tastes; do a decent radio show; and hold my own with young know-it-all record clerks in Chicago. But I don't know enough to write cool, authoritative, impressively linernotish liner notes. The fact that I know all this music after-the-fact or "second hand" should affect the quality of the music; an attempt to give you the storytelling goods secondhand would probably do a disservice to the story.This set inevitably reflects my biases as its curator; but I hope it is deep and wide enough to allow you to decide what the "best," "most important," "coolest" sounds are. In fact, I realise you may even disagree with me that 1981 is worth all the trouble. Personally, I think something was happening from about 1978 to 1982 that is noteworthy in the history of pop music. I think there was an earnest expansiveness and playfulness regarding the boundaries (or absence thereof) between genres and between "art" and "pop". Nothing I could say will convince you--but the music might.

I admit that a portion of these tracks are undeniably dated (if charmingly so,) and will probably trigger nostalgia even if you've never heard them. Progressive (in pop terms) as these tracks were at the time, they established the paradigm for the infamous "sound of the 80s," and by extension the cartoonish aesthetic currently revered by college students too young to actually remember the decade. I resisted investigating many of the bands I knew as pathetic yuppie crooners on my older sister's radio in the mid-80s for years; in their early incarnations, at least, some of those bands have become my favourites. The majority of the music of this particular 1981, however, would set a fire were it released today; the paradigm they operated within (or without) was expansive enough that a lot of the best "progressive" music is still exploring it today (in just the way that many of these bands can be said to have been working in virtual homage to Can or the Velvet Underground).Investigating threads of Influence and innovation; glowing about "prescience;" and dividing the thieves from the tributaries arguably enhances musical enjoyment. But I hope you'll ultimately take this music on its own terms. I came into my interest in the "post-punk period" slowly; I bought the hype young that punk was the Sex Pistols, which I didn't especially like, and therefore skipped ahead to Yo La Tengo and the Pixies. It was only after I stumbled through a couple dozen records that I started to notice common years popping up. My subsequent effort to consciously put together a picture of the movement (and my appreciation of the music as a cultural artifact) came only after I first felt the picture. Even after as work-like a relationship as I've had to this music after spending countless man-hours putting this set together, I still hear it foremostly in the visceral way that I did when I knew nothing of its history.On to the indisputable facts: 395 tracks, 345 bands, almost 21 hours of sound, spanning most elements of the post-punk, art-pop, new wave, hardcore, no wave, d.i.y., new romantic, power-pop, dancepunk, art-punk and electropop spheres. Nine of the discs are audio CDs, carefully selected and sequenced along sonic or emotional themes. The tenth disc is an mp3 "appendix" containing tracks by 130-plus bands that didn't fit the main mixes, most of whom are just as good as those on the main CDs. For some of you, there is little new to you here. For a good many, this may be all the "post-punk" you'll ever want. I don't need to change your life, I just want to play you some music; so if you enjoy any of it, my effort has been worthwhile. It is my secret hope, however, that for a few of you, this will be another step toward deep, passionate addiction to music you might not have known existed. Music does not truly exist without both passionate playing and passionate listening; you make music out of noise by listening well.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 5 March 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

some interesting thoughts, on a tangent to yours I.M., here: "The Golden Age Is When You Were 12*"

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 5 March 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The box set list is way impressive, but you know there were a couple (hundred) good R&B records released in 1981, too.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 5 March 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey now Lovebug, that was already (semi-jokingly) addressed via Nate above and responded to.

One could -- if one wanted to -- create an alternate 1981 set that removes many tracks in favor of a slew of R'n'B selections, but understandably that would reflect the bias of the creator as much as this set does. The whole *point* is that it is biased. (Something like the original Nuggets was biased after all.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 5 March 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Cozen -- thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

Lovebug -- indeed there were. And hip-hop, and avant garde, and probably Nashville Country for all I know. But this box was never intended to be "the" "objective" story of 1981. I definitely indended to have a limited (but not too limited) scope. I definitely didn't mean to offend anyone by leaving things out--I just figured my scope was one that could use some in-depth anthologising, and it happens to reflect my favourite sort of music going on at the time.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 5 March 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry. Didn't mean to dis. And I think your focus/selection is more objectively "true" than you realize, there really wasn't much crossover between black and white audiences then, a lot of "post-punkers" were just as anti-disco as those nasty ol' rockists.

Were I to put my money where my mouth is, I'd assemble the early 80s R&B/rap version of your box. As if. Your anthology is an achievement!

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 5 March 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

1981 was a music-drenched year of great personal import -- the year I moved to NYC! It's really a treat to browse all those titles and names(not that I remembered every one).

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 5 March 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

from the pitchfork link Matos gave above:

I Love Music CDR700Go! Collections

A series of other single-year retrospectives have been given birth in recent years by the denizens of the music critic circle-jerk I Love Music, who have generated an entire inventory of single-disc mp3 mixes, with listings accessible in the message board's archives. Assembled by folks like Seattle Weekly editor Michaelangelo Matos, All Music Guide contributor Andy Kellman, and former Pitchfork rabblerouser Chris Ott, most are less motivated by personal taste than a desire to most accurately document the calendar year, above and below ground. Hence, the 1976 disc makes room for both the Buzzcocks and "Disco Duck", and Barry Manilow and Pere Ubu are compilation flatmates for the first-- and probably last-- time. Waiving the right to selective hindsight makes the discs great archeological fodder; on random, they play like great radio stations with extreme microprogramming.

Hmmm, can't imagine what year(s) the statement in bold is referring to... *whistles*

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 5 March 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Lovebug ---

I'm not sure I agree that things were as segregated then as they might seem, and I certainly don't agree that post-punk was particularly "rockist" or anti-disco---a large portion of this stuff is very dance-oriented, often with straight-up disco beats. Call it cultural imperialism, call it cooption--I think a lot of these musicians (especially in England) were very broad-minded, heavily immersed in jamaican musics, American funk, and, I suspect, a good deal of African music (both Afrobeat-ish/High-life and traditional forms) as well as a broad swath of "white" music. I guess I'm one to tend to cut arguments about "authenticity" and "originality" down quickly, because they tend to insult just about everyone involved (supposed "originators" and accused "coopters") and paint everything into tight little corners. I'm certain there was plenty of posing and faking and hanging-on, but I prefer to focus on the cooperative, the joyous, the fun. I think there was a lot of play back and forth between the "white" music (apparently what is on my set, though many musicians involved were not racially white) and "black" music at the time--white kids were stealing calypso beats but adding Stockhausen splicing and Scratch Perry echoes, black kids were sampling Liquid Liquid and Tom Tom Club, early goth-tinged electro-pop was providing production aesthetics for hip hop, and on and on. There are very few outright Elvises on this set. I'd love it if you did "the" "other" 1981--I'd love to see all kinds of spheres anthologised in this fashion, and I'd love to put them all in a big CD changer and hit "random". It'd be a lot of fun.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 5 March 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I've got 60 copies finished, so I should begin notifying people that their copies are ready to ship by Friday.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

what do you mean by "Elvises"?

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 6 March 2005 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

oh wait, I re-read the post. you're more or less referring to full-on hybridity here, aren't you? nevermind.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 6 March 2005 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link

how much does something like this cost?

j-dizzle, Sunday, 6 March 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I used the term rockist ironically. And I meant the post-punk audience -- people buying the records and going to clubs -- were anti-disco, not the musician themselves. Obviously, many of the players were picking up on diverse sounds, from both sides of the divide. Afrika Bambaataa was a huge Kraftwerk fan, etc. But in my experience -- I was 23 in 81 -- there wasn't much crossover among fans. The Gang of Four/Bush Tetras/Bad Brains show I saw on 1/31/81 for instance attracted a mutually exclusive audience from any given night at the Paradise Garage. It seemed strange at the time, given the popularity of Dance Oriented Rock as it was known, that more of a wide-open general scene didn't exist. Fragmentation started here.

This thing about Elvis and black music is a canard. To my ears, Elvis was equally influenced by country music and Dean Martin as he was by Big Mama Thornton. But that's a whole nother discussion.

Again, I'm not carping or complaining. This set is a public service.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 6 March 2005 04:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that's what I.M. was saying, though--that Elvis (not solely him, but as an example) straddled genre lines pretty evenly.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 6 March 2005 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Lovebug ---

I really appreciate your perspective. What you're saying is fascinating to me, actually--in fact, what you say confirms my suspicions about the ways in which my views might be skewed by knowing the whole era/sphere pretty much from the music only. It doesn't surprise me at all, really, that the musicians may have been able to make leaps that their audience were not. It seems a pretty common occurance that eclectic musicians are doomed to end up serving as "translators" for less eclectic fans, somehow making music said fans otherwise might not try easily digested. It's a shame to think this was the case even in so wide-ranging a sphere as the "post-punk" milieu; it's been my complaint about all this current "dance-punk"/"post-punk revivalist" stuff: the bands involved may know their roots and their roots' roots (I'm in no position to say); but I've met many a young kid who simply feels he doesn't need PigBag, because he has his !!!. I'm ambivalent, because I think the best music is made by those who're most aware of their forbears but least worshipful of them; and like I said before, I deeply resist the concept that there's any "pure" music in the pop world.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link

j-dizzle ---

$11.50 plus postage. It costs you what it costs me.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I emailed you yesterday morning. My name's Mark. Did you get it?

The vast majority of the stuff on this thing is not new to me, but as a collector of the era I gotta make sure I cover all the bases. Nice to see you've got some good old fashioned early 4AD stuff in there, too!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Bimble ---

Several people called Mark emailed me, but your email address here isn't on my list.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:17 (nineteen years ago) link

didja get mine???? not this email. my name is gary. i'm from australia.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Well that's cause I emailed you from another address beginning with 'kincai'

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Mullygrubbr --

I've got a Gary at an .au email, so I think you're in ; )

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Bimble--didn't get it, sorry. I've been very careful to email everyone back from whom I got a request, I'm sorry if I somehow missed you. Try again and I'll add you to the waiting list.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link

whoo hooo!

i didn't get a reply though...

i was 18 in 1981. its kind of a "out of home go crazy" year for me.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Sigh. Okay.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Mullygrubbr ---

Hmm. Does your last name start with an L? I've got the reply I sent you in my "sent" box, Thursday 10:21 pm


Bimble ---

Very sorry, friend. I don't know how I could've missed it if I got it.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:55 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, you know what I.M., I sent you an email about this as well! i didn't receive a reply but i didn't worry about it as i assumed you were probably swamped. But since you just said that you sent replies to people ... now I'm wondering if you ever got my email ..? (used this email address .. first name Rob)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 6 March 2005 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

That's okay. Proof that email isn't perfect, I guess. I'm writing from this email this time so you will know right away it's me.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Stormy Davis ---

Yeah, I've got you, too. Both you and Mully were amongst the very first few, sent you a reply 10 minutes before Mully. I hope this Lycos thing is reliable. . . I've taken emails from 65 people here, and I've replied to every one of them, by my account. . .

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm curious, I.M., what is your feeling about the vinyl format?

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:11 (nineteen years ago) link

ok cool, thanks I.M.!! I don't know what could have happened. I think Lycos just hates Yahoo ever since the latter beat them in the "portal" sweepstakes. hahaha "portal"! good god, the 90s were a silly decade.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Bimble ---

I admit I don't share the nostalgia for vinyl of many; nor do I have any evidence that, on your average player, it is a "superior" format. Honestly, when kids spinning shit over thrift store systems tell me that, I have to try hard not to laugh. I do prefer vinyl sleeves, obviously (LP anyway). That said, when something's only available on vinyl, that's how I'll get it if I need it. I tend to avoid ammassing too much vinyl, though, because it takes up so much space. I'm able to keep about 2,000 CDs in nice black binders in a locker (literally a high scool locker) in my closet; I couldn't live in my place if I had 2,000 LPs.

Conversely, I'm a huge fan of the democratising effect of the CD-R. Talk about "it was easy, it was cheap"! Sure, some store-bought CD-R with one of those horrible "mini-cases" will make an awful artefact; but done right, they can be reasonably attractive.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I also e-mailed you, but I just wanted to say WOW here as well. I can't even begin to imagine how inundated with requests you are going to be as this set is absolutely amazing!! I was 15 in 1981 in a small town in South Dakota, USA and just beginning to get into music. I'm like you. I like to own the album, and I can remember where and when I bought most of my albums (four or five at a time in dingy record shops with hippie clerks - the thrill of finding something new - being able to hold the albums in two hands, etc.) I love the internet because it gives the chance to sample before i buy, but i'll always want to hold them in my hands. I will always say albums, even though I haven't bought any vinyl in 15 years. Just has a nice ring to it. Anyway, thanks so much for your work. An absolutely amazingly cool idea. I would love to see tracklists for other years. It's cool to be reminded how much good music was released in any given year. Oh, and your are doing great work in "musical tutelage". Imagine how many people will be turned on to stuff they never knew existed.

Anyway, thanks again. Good luck with the deluge of e-mail. Hopefully, nothing crashes! Oh, and if you are able to add me to a waiting list sometime in the next year or two, that would be awesome!

joel nelson, Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I do agree with your lengthy post up there about MP3 culture and whatnot. I'm certainly glad it exists -- i'm not resistant to change; heck, I am a huge participant myself. But I also own something on the order of seven or eight thousand physical artifacts myself. And here's the thing: I can probably recall exactly when and where I bought each and every one of those things. There's a story that accompanies every record I have (well, aside from the ones I just got on Half.com or ordered from Forced Exposure or whatever)(which category definitely, yes, comprises a hefty chunk of them.) But I can tell you why I initially heard of some record, why I picked it up / took a chance on it, where I bought it -- whether a random trick to the record store or some crazy intrepid crate digging excursion that took me into some wild places. And yeah, I feel like the people who queue up 10 albums on soulseek and then go to bed and then never listen to them and they just sit there on a hard drive along with gigabytes worth of other MP3s, yeah I do feel a bit sad about that and feel like some crucial experiences are being lost in the bargain. But c'est la vie.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Not that anyone asked me, but I do have some nostalgia for the vinyl format. There was something comforting and organic about the clicks and pops. That said, I really don't have the patience for it anymore. Too much work to pull out the records, clean them and play. Plus, no shuffle! (mixed blessing, shuffle. I find that I don't give most albums near the time they deserve)

joel nelson, Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Joel ---

Thanks so much. Really, the kindness everyone who's contacte me has shown has been inspirational. I honestly posted here a bit trepedatiously--I'd heard rather lofty things about the place, and had a minor notion I'd get told what poor choices I'd made, what I'd missed, etc. To a (wo)man, from music editors to teenaged kids, everyone has been very complimentary. I hope everyone feels the same way when they've been digesting the mixes!

Re: the physical object, yeah, I'll always want one. Truth is, at this point, I've begun thinking of the actual discs as permanent "back-ups". I got a 250GB HD about a year and a half ago, and a 100GB portable mp3 player about six months ago, and they've radically changed the way I listen to my music (for the better). It's a far cry from the romanticism of turning the LP over halfway through, but gosh--being able to put a lifetime of music *on random* is pretty awe-inspiring. It's made me feel that my constant rationalisation for my record-buying habits---that I was "building a library" to last a lifetime---wasn't just a convenient justification. I really do love it all, things I haven't heard in years. I'm a traditionalist in many, many ways--but I'm becoming a modernist in regards to music making/listening technology. Hell, the fact that I've been able to make my own little records (ha, CDs) as easily as I might've kept a sketchbook---there's just nothing bad about that I can see.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, fair enough, but just incase I happened to have a newfangled mp3 of the Past Seven Days, doesn't mean I'd part with the original 7" for any amount of money in the whole world. That really is one of my very favourite records ever. Sorry I just had to mention that cause so few people know it.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Stormy ---

I definitely share the ambivalence. I wonder if "we"--those like us, from about the age 20 through maybe 60--have the best of both worlds, a combination that will probably be lost on younger kids. I have an aversion to the concept of iTunes that borders on irrational; but younger kids might argue correctly that we're materialists to a fault. I'm not sure who's right, but I do enjoy the "personal archaeology" of looking through my physically-housed music. I like that I have that option, even if I rarely excersise it these days.

You know whos opinion I'd love to hear/read on all this? Brian Eno. Talk about a guy who's managed to be a revolutionary modernist/post-modernist/technologist and yet maintain a level of craftsmanship that almost only comes through a visceral understanding of the music-making process.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Bimble ---

Eeep. You probably won't like me much--I made an edit of "Raindance". I agree it's a great track, fantastic atmosphere and very underrated, but I wanted to get as many artists represented as possible (and let people seek out the full versions of the tracks I edited, if they'd like). I still left about 5 minutes of the track ; )

I hope no one will mind that I did an edit of Crispy Ambulance's "The Presence".

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, I.M. Hey, just curious, did you get the e-mail I sent you earlier? Just wondering if I screwed up when I sent it. Sorry to bug you with that type of question. Also, what do you recommend for converting vinyl to cd? One of my goals is to digitize my vinyl someday. Also, you really summed up everything that is great about "random play". Being able to do that brings things bubbling to the surface that I haven't listened to in years.

joel nelson (joel nelson), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Well that's what I wondered, cause I saw these (edit) bits on the list...

Crispy Ambulance is my second fave band ever, but the Presence is the kind of song you can do an edit of and it wouldn't be too offensive. I can understand where you were coming from. Don't worry about it. Remember I'm here to hear the stuff I HAVEN'T heard.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Joel ---

Yep, I got yours this time. Did you get my reply?

For vinyl transfers, I'm not very high-tech, I admit. I just use Soundforge for pretty much all my wav capturing/editing. Then I manually clean clicks and pops, if it's close to a clean rip. I don't trust "auto" cleaning filters--even running Soundforge's "pop" seeker, it almost always finds elements that aren't clicks/pops. So it's just the tedious task of listening close and watching close--but I like looking at waveforms, so it's ok. If the vinyl is irretrevably vinylly, then I just leave it that way.

Before anyone gets the wrong idea---about 15% of the stuff in this set is indeed mp3-sourced or from friends' vinyl. I'm too young to have been "in the right place at the right time," or to have the money to afford multi-hundre-dollar 7"s. And some of the tracks (mainly on the 'Cassette' mix) are sourced from Chuck Warner's rips. I tried to limit the set only to what I owned for a while, but there were some great things I just didn't want to leave out. The vast majority, for better or worse, I've spent the money on over the years.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Bimble ---

I only did edits in very judicious ways. Where I could, I even pulled off "seamless" edits, rather than resorting to fade-outs, etc.

I've never met anyone whose second favourite band was Crispy Ambulance before. Are you a big Crepescule/Fac Bel fan in general?

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:59 (nineteen years ago) link

bimble, as a massive Crispy Ambulance fan, do you feel as I do that "Simon's Ghost" is almost a total copy of Popol Vuh's main theme for Noferatu?? i asked this on the Popol Vuh thread once and nobody responded. I guess most Popol Vuh fans aren't Crispy Ambulance fans. But I swear those dudes totally stole that from Fricke. but it's cool, I still love them.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 6 March 2005 06:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M.
Glad you got the e-mail. I didn't get the reply, though. (just the two posts above, but nothing in my inbox).

joel nelson (joel nelson), Sunday, 6 March 2005 07:00 (nineteen years ago) link

If this thread got to >100 replies, it's going to be jumping when these sets start reaching you. I'm always curious what peoples' favourite mix is; every one of them has been someone's, and there's definitely no concensus so far.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Ludus may be my favourite Crepuscule band. But I'm probably forgetting somebody.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link

IM its fer sure me then but no reply in that box. i'm keen still maybe try mullygrubber@gmail if i need to confirm.

interesting peeps have responses to the mixes themselves. the ilm cdrgo's being mp3 discs tends to make them "resources" rather than playlists i think (i rarely listen to 10 hours at a go...nate's discs are an exception as they work as folders) so your decision to go with 80 min discs entices this response...deliberate?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 6 March 2005 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you a big Crepescule/Fac Bel fan in general?

Fac Bel yes, Crepuscule some, but not as much.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 07:15 (nineteen years ago) link

bimble, as a massive Crispy Ambulance fan, do you feel as I do that "Simon's Ghost" is almost a total copy of Popol Vuh's main theme for Noferatu??

Well, I'm quite sorry not to be able to answer that question. I DID actually go through a little phase with Popol Vuh sometime last summer. Can't recall if I heard Nosferatu theme in the process. Seems like I read about that album, though, or a lot of people liked it or something. I remember Nosferatu more as an old horror movie I saw in my childhood than anything else. Older than Popol Vuh, and no music comes to mind.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 6 March 2005 07:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Mullygrubbr ---

deliberate

Not to entice response, no, but to facilitate listenability/accessibility, yes, definitely. Numerous people who got the 1st Edition have told me they love the set, and yet haven't gotten around to the mp3-CD. 181 tracks on one disc is a little prohibitave. I always focused on the mixes--the 'Briefcase' was a means I came up with to allow myself to focus on making the best flowing, most listenable and cohesive mixes possible, and yet still include all the stuff that was great/good/significant but didn't flow.

Some of the "sounds" of the mixes are pretty obvious--the 'Amplifier' disc is clearly the more "rock" disc. But some of them--the 'Flame,' the 'Icicle,' the 'Brain' are a little less analogous to genre. So I'm curious how others think they hold up as individual mixes. I have found that with the exception of a couple of them, they stand as individual mixes with any others I've made, even with all the time/sound "restrictions". Maybe it's like a sonnet--you have to try harder in ways than with free verse, but sometimes it can facilitate a big payoff.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 07:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i was 18 in 1981 but i somehow missed post-punk as i was busy listening to keith jarrett and nick drake at the time. later on i caught up a little with that 78-82 period which indeed feels like a special time for rock music as there was so much happening. those years to me are so much more exciting than the punk years before which sort of opened the field for all those experiments and blends of all kinds of music.

did you get my e-mail, i.m.? i sent it out last night german time and didn't get a reply.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Sunday, 6 March 2005 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex ---

I did indeed get your email, and I sent you a reply.

I wonder if I'm being filtered into people's spam boxes, somehow?

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, I'm off to print the booklets in a couple hours.

Sure none of you real writers want to salvage its readability with a cogent anecdote or insightful analysis?

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

IM, I sent you an email as well. Scott from Toronto. did you get it?

jsg, Sunday, 6 March 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

JSG ---

Yes, and replied. Looks like I may have to swith email providers for this project. What a pain.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

ANNOUNCEMENT:

I'm using a new email address. The lycos one seemed to be giving people trouble. So now be on the lookout for a message from soundslike1981@gmail.com instead.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

oh yeah i.m. - i dunno how many of the old school crew post, but its at least 10 i think... even smiff posted here back when, and poly and totally are regulars

chris andrews (fraew), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

It appears that many of you did not recieve my replies from Lycos, but in most cases I received your initial requests. Therefore you're probably on either the reserve list or the waiting list, if you're tried contacting me.

I will send out a mass email to those on each list (separately) so that you'll know your status with certainty. I apologise to anyone who didn't end up on the reserve list because of email problems.

You will not need to reply to the email I send, it's just FYI. If you haven't received notification by Tuesday night (U.S. CST) and you feel you should've been on one of the lists, then email me and we'll sort it out.

Thanks

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 7 March 2005 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't end up getting to go print the booklets today after all, so there's still a little time to improve the content of the booklet if any writers here have any anecdotes/insights on 1981 they'd like to contribute.


Here's the updated version of my "essay," I'm very open to any suggestions or criticisms, bearing in mind that I'm far from being a writer/critic myself:


1 9 8 1

My first idea of how to introduce this set was with a pretentiously lofty-sounding question: "what do we do when we realise Pandora's box really can't be shut?" This was supposed to set me up to cogently persuade you that the music found on this set provides an answer: that when our belief in a fundamental order is broken, survivors resolve to make a beautiful mess. I wanted to argue that a lot of this music belongs to a noble lineage of "outré" and progressive popular art made by people trying to restore hope and meaning (and fun) amidst the smoking embers of classicism, modernism, and post-modernism. I wanted to say something pithy about how the shattering of the notion of discrete, monolithic cultures not only enabled this music, but made it necessary. I'd even have set the stage with Thatcher, Reagan, wasteland suburbs, post-industrial economic shifts, the dole, the rise of fundamentalism and yuppiedom and anti-disco rockism. My imaginary essay would’ve made you think you were reading a collaboration between Simon Reynolds, Brian Eno and George Orwell.

But the truth is, I was in diapers in 1981. I didn't start my daily worrying about Grandpa Reagan’s nuclear winter until '87 at the earliest. As far as underground music is concerned, I have about a decade of experience with the stuff. My parents were kindly hippies spinning Joan Baez and James Taylor records. They imbued me with a sense that music was deeply important, but didn't have much of its sonic or cultural breadth to share. Presently, I "know" about as much about music as could be expected of any musically obsessed twenty-four year old who owns only a couple hundred jazz records, a hundred hip-hop records, overuses Skip James on mixes, and only heard his first Talking Heads album as a junior in high school. The point is, I don't have any special insight enabling me to write cool, authoritative, impressively linernotish liner notes. When it comes down to it, I put this set together as a way to avoid having to put in words what is so great about this music. After all, the music puts it best.

This set inevitably reflects my biases as its curator. Indeed, I chose to emphasise certain spheres and leave others out entirely (for someone else to anthologise, hopefully). Still, I hope the set has depth and breadth enough to allow you to decide the "best," "most important," "coolest" sounds. I realise you may even disagree with me that 1981 was worth all the trouble. Personally, I think something was happening from about 1978 to 1982 that is noteworthy in the history of pop music. There was an earnest expansiveness and playfulness regarding the boundaries (or absence thereof) between genres and between "art" and "pop". And I think 1981 may have been the most diverse year of the period, if not the most intense. But nothing I can say will convince you—only the music can.

A portion of these tracks sound undeniably dated (if charmingly so,) and will probably trigger nostalgia even if you've never heard them before. Progressive (in pop terms) as these particular tracks were at the time, they established the paradigm for the infamous "sound of the 80s," and by extension the cartoonish aesthetic currently revered by college freshmen too young to actually remember the decade. However, I believe that the majority of the music comprising this set’s “sound of the 80s” would set a fire were it released today. The paradigm in which many of these musicians operated was expansive enough that a lot of today's "progressive" music is still exploring it (in just the way that many of 1981's best bands were working through Can, Kraftwerk, Sun Ra, the Velvet Underground, et al).

Investigating threads of Influence and innovation; glowing about "prescience;" and dividing the thieves from the originals are games which can arguably enhance musical enjoyment. But I hope you'll first take this music on its own terms. I came into my interest in “the post-punk period" slowly. Till I was about 17 I bought the hype that punk was the Sex Pistols, whom I didn't especially like, and therefore I skipped ahead to Yo La Tengo and the Pixies. It was only after I stumbled through a couple dozen records that I started to notice ’79, ’82, 1981. Any conscious, intellectual concept of a "movement" came only after I first felt the music without analysing it. Though I've become fascinated with the "culture" this music evinces, I'm not pained by not having "been there": the music stands on its own, even without a perfect understanding of its context.

On to the indisputable facts: 411 tracks, 366 bands, almost 21 hours of sound, touching most elements of the post-punk, art-pop, new wave, hardcore, no wave, d.i.y., new romantic, power-pop, dancepunk, art-punk and electropop spheres. Nine of the discs are audio CDs, carefully sequenced along sonic or emotional themes. The tenth disc is an mp3 "appendix" containing tracks by 130-plus bands that didn't fit the main mixes, most of whom are just as good as those on the main CDs. While it may also be a resource, I hope this set is above all a good spin.

For some of you, there is little new here. For a good many, this may be all the "post-punk" you'll ever want. I don't need to change your life, I just want to play you some music; so if you enjoy any of it, my effort has been worthwhile. My secret hope, however, is that for a few of you, this set will be a further step toward a deep, passionate addiction to music you might not have known existed. The event called music doesn’t truly occur without both passionate performance and passionate listening; you turn chaos and noise into meaningful beauty by listening well.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 7 March 2005 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I don't have time to read that right now but I just wanted to say that my opinion is if you went to all the trouble of making the thing, you should be the one to do the liner notes! :) I'm not sure it would really be fair any other way, though your modesty is endearing.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 7 March 2005 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Wot Bimble said. Don't doubt your voice, let it go forward -- you have a very sharp, thoughtful and considered tone even in your short replies, it is best that this is the tone that is heard with the set itself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 March 2005 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Bimble, Ned ---

Thanks for the words of support. I think I will leave my intro in, if for no other reason than to maintain the DIY-ness; but it would be fun to add a few bits from those who "were there". There's some usable space in the booklet going to waste ; )

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 7 March 2005 05:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi, I'm one of the other "Mark"'s that replied, but have no answer email. Did I get missed?

Regards.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 7 March 2005 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark ---

You're on the reserve list, no worries.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

.. as opposed to the waiting list? Cool, very.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, I've sent a mass email to everyone on the reserve list and everyone on the waiting list. If you haven't received this email soon but you feel you should have, write to me and I'll fix it.

Thanks

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 7 March 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i got your mail, i.m. thanks for all the effort you have put into this and you will hopefully put into it in the near future. it's a bit sad that your individual e-mails got lost but that can happen in our fast-lived computer age.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Ordered more CD-R today. So past 100 will happen.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

:)

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey IM, I like the essay, but I was thinking you could maybe cut the first two paragraphs. No need to be apologetic about your age and experiences and it's more interesting to hear about how you selected which tracks to include. Just my opinion. Great project.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

57 7th ---

Yeah, they are partly apologetic--but they're also "clever" ways of suggesting some of the loftier things I think may be the case re: this music, without having to actually "proclaim" any of it to be so. In other words, I think there's a lot of interesting stuff to say about the music/period/atmosphere/culture, but I'm not in a position to say it properly. But usually that's what "massive box set" liner notes do--they provide a sage setting of the stage; so I thought I'd have a bit of fun with the conundrum I faced. Just some silliness to fill the space--which is why I tried my best to get a proper writer to give me something to fill it with instead ; )

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

*i, maybe you could say the loftier things and skip the self-deprecation.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Poly --

I really can't. It'd be shit. It's all a sketch in my head, anyway. You've read enough of my garble over the years to know it's not self deprecation for me to say I can't write.

Even if I could say it all properly I'm not sure I'd want to--kind of why I included "links" and other suggested reading material at the back of the booklet, to let the listener decide for themselves whether "what happened" and "what it's all about" matter.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Mind boggling!! Has anyone ever compiled something like this based on the work of a rock critic? Specifically, it would be neat to create a similar package based on the content of www.robertchristgau.com. Of course, does anyone else on the planet have a working collection as large and diverse as the Dean's in order to source the songs?

Dad, Friday, 11 March 2005 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I came across someone on Soulseek who'd attempted to collect (from mp3 source, it seemed) as many of the singles mentioned in Gimarc's 'Post-Punk Diary: 1979-1982'. Though that's not really a work of criticism.

I haven't read it yet obviously (because it's not released,) but in talking with Simon Reynolds a little, it looks like my set will provide a pretty reasonable soundtrack to his upcoming post-punk tome 'Rip It Up and Start Again' (which sounds like it will be more fantastic than I'd imagined).

I'm still taking waiting list requests, at soundslike1981@gmail.com : )

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 11 March 2005 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Keep your eyes peeled for an email from me if you're on the reserve list. I'm ready to ship to about the first fourty people. I hope to have another 30+ by week's end.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 19 March 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

word.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 March 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I've sent email to the 45 ILM people who were on the reserve list. 15 copies went out yesterday and today, and another 20 or so have contacted me.

If you have not received an email from me but feel you should have, drop me a line at the address below.

Thanks.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

got mine--thanks!

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Cool, I'll be curious what you think of it, since you're a connoisseur.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 25 March 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link

holy shit, mine arrived today.

Amazing.

I mean, it will be a lot more amazing in a few months after I have a chance to listen to it all. 21 HOURS!

don weiner, Saturday, 26 March 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I am nobody's idea of a postpunk connoisseur!

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, 26 March 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, hey I'm the postpunk connoisseur here! Got mine today. Thanks much. Almost done listening to the "Fire" CD.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 26 March 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i'm on the "waiting list" for this, which I assume is different from the "reserve list". any idea when/if a copy will be sent my way? thanks!

tylerw, Saturday, 26 March 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I know I should play it cool, just put the thing out there and act like I don't care---but I'm fascinated what people think of this music (if they haven't heard it all especially) and how it's put together. I don't know if it's apparent, but despite the maximalist qualities of the set, I put most of my energy into song selection and mix sequencing/cohesion.

All to say--I'd love to hear any thoughts/criticisms/suggestions/ideas/anecdotes/etc. those of you who get this thing have. I've spent a good while with the music, and especially with the stuff on the set, and I still love it all--not burned out yet. So I'm curious what people who *haven't* spent such an intense time with it think.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 27 March 2005 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Tylerw ---

I've bought materials for another 50 copies, so I guess I'm committed to at least that many. But it may still be another 2-4 weeks before I can get to all the "waiting list" people. It's just a very time-consuming process.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 27 March 2005 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll be sending the money via PayPal soon (hopefully before Tuesday.) I'm really excited for this!

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 27 March 2005 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Been away from my email for a while and just got yours today IM. A very nice surprise. I will sned payment and shipping info soon.

jsg, Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I think the whole art design of it is fabulous, for starters. The way it divides up the music but gives you something interesting to look at. It just makes you feel privileged to have the damn thing - it's an arty, fun toy!

The first two CD's were composed of mostly stuff I already knew but there were a few stray things here and there that clearly warrant further research on my part. Currently I'm enjoying the "brain" CD quite a bit. Not only does it have a lot more stuff I hadn't heard before in comparison to the first two CD's, but it's just the KIND of music I want to hear lately. It's soo nice to hear a Birthday Party song in the context of a compilation, too, because I find whole albums of theirs a bit too much to take, even if they did do some really great songs in their career.

Wow, Eyeless In Gaza! I haven't heard them in so long! I actually remember that song, too. Great stuff.


Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 27 March 2005 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I just want to give a shout out to my man IM -- this set is incredible in every way, from packaging and presentation, to detail, to content.

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, 57 7th and Bimble. Bimble--hope you're still enjoying it, despite misunderstandings.

20 copies went out last thurs/friday, and another 12 will go out tomorrow. My plan is to go to the post office every couple days, to give time for enough sets to be paid for to make it worth using my lunch break. I appreciate everyone's timely responses to my mass email.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

HO....LEE....SHIT.

How did I miss this thread? Wowsa. Amazing. Great work IM.

My email has been sent.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 28 March 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

IM

Is there more available for purchase, I would love to get my hands on a copy. It looks fantastic. I'm really impressed like everyone else.

jmeister (jmeister), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 06:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay, I got mine today. Ian, I saw you sent an email to me the other day saying you didn't get my paypal payment but it showed up on my bank statement, so I dunno.

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

What's the recommended option for UK shipping?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm ordering one as soon as i get a job haha

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark --

I'm not sure what the most cost-effective method for international shipping is. Try http://ircalc.usps.gov/ with a weight of 12oz from postal code 72205.

Poortheatre, Jmeister --

Go ahead and send me an email at soundslike1981@gmail.com if you would so I can put you on the waiting list. It'll probably be several weeks before I could get to you, so that should give you time to get together the $13.

Mike O.--

Glad it reached you, hope you dig it.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Looking forward to my copy. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned --

Yours went out Thursday, should be there any day now.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I still consider the set to be quite useful to me, I.M. Thanks.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I check my mailbox three times a day.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

got mine on saturday and have been listening at work. it has already exceeded my expectations! Great work, great selection, awesome packaging, just a wonderful thing you did for us. I can't help but hope that you will do another year someday and that I might be privileged enough to own a copy!

joel nelson (joel nelson), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

1979 is next. But it'll probably be a year or so from now that I finish it. I need a break first : )

Glad you like it, Joel.

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Quite excellent. Arrived yesterday and shall listen to a disc a day. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

My copy of the two disc Basement Jaxx singles comp arrived today, but still no 1981 :(

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex --

Media mail is supposed to be 4-7 days. Tomorrow makes a week. So with any luck. . . : )


I should've made it more clear that U.S.ers can opt for something faster than media mail if they want to pay for it; but I figured 7 days max wasn't too bad.

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Mine arrived yesterday. I've spent, conservatively, twelve of the last twenty-four hours with my head jammed between speakers.

Utterly incredible...

Dark Horse, Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha don't worry, IM. I am just playing bummed that everyone here is getting theirs already. 4-7 days is totally fine.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Dark Horse ----

Awesome! Somebody ought to do a marathon for charity or something where they try to listen to all 21 hours consecutively!

Let's see---the 9 mixes make 12 hours--has anybody made it to the mp3-CD (the one with the briefcase-esque logo)? That bit may have been overkill--but there's a lot of great stuff that just didn't suit the mixes!

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I have listened to a few of the tracks on the briefcase one already. It's very cool that there are some bands there I haven't heard of before! I got kindof sick of running into the same stuff on slsk from that period, and it seemed like most of what was available was European synth pop sorts of things which isn't really my preference.

Also I'm rather happy to see Club Tango on there. I have that 7", really like that song a lot. Nice to see Mass and Urban Verbs too!

Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

The obscurities are certainly the attraction for me here -- currently listening to the Necessaries right now, about whom I know nothing -- but everything's handled very well, in terms of sequencing and finding new ways to hear familiar songs in new contexts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned --

I'm not sure how much stuff on there qualifies as obscure. Probably some, but then again, none of it is *that* hard to find or I wouldn't have found it. Some of the obscure stuff is thanks to Chuck W or PhilT.

I admit, that Necessaries track is one of my very few cheats. They released an album in '81, then rereleased it under a different name with a few different tracks and a different mastering job the next year. The track you have is from the rerelease--but I think it was *recorded* in '81. Basically, it's far and away the best track and features Arthur (Russell) most prominantly--without his influence, they're a decent but sometimes middling pop-rock band. He's just magic (though I can't say much for the one solo track I knew to have been released in '81--it's a very, very minor sketch---gosh how I wish "A Little Lost" or something like that had been released in '81).

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

it's far and away the best track and features Arthur (Russell) most prominantly

Ah! The penny drops, I was wondering why the voice sounded so familiar. Obscurity is all in the ear of the beholder, m'friend -- certainly the vast majority of the songs and bands are very familiar (hell, I'm listening to Robyn H's "Love" right now and I saw him the other night!), but not all, and I'd be lying to say if I had!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

ear of the beholder

haha I've lost all perspective on this stuff, it's imprinted on my brain--but push me forward to '85 or back to '75 or just about anywhere else, and plenty of stuff that would be well known to ILMers is probably obscure to me. I didn't mean to specialise, and in terms of time spent listening I don't really--but for a project like this, it's kind of required : )

It's very exciting to me that people are hearing stuff that's new-to-them with this thing--hopefully it'll cause more than a few legitimate purchases!

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I've posted to you... Gone for the airmail parcel option.

Got to get this, before the fall box set...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 31 March 2005 06:42 (nineteen years ago) link

mine came in the mail today. i haven't had a chance to crack it yet, but goddamn is it ever beautiful. i.m. you are a hero.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

ok so i'm reading your liner notes and listening now, and honestly, this is fucking bananas. that you went to all this effort and care actually reaffirms my faith in people a little bit. if you ever make more i will gladly overpay for another two copies, just to give as gifts.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark --

The music reaffirms my faith in people in a way, so it's fantastic that putting it all in one place can do the same. Fantastic : ) The queue is so deep, I don't know if I'll get to second helpings, but I'll try!

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

that you went to all this effort and care actually reaffirms my faith in people a little bit.

Yeah, I'd have to echo that. A labor of love and then some -- if the whole enterprise can be summed up in one word, it would be 'generosity,' from everything to getting the music to presentation and forethought and explanation.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, thanks Ned! I was minorly notorious for being incredibly slow on mix trades, so hopefully making these will square things a little.

The response of the 2nd round has been really quick! 12+ copies will go out today at lunch. The "+" can mean you, if you got an email from me yesterday and are able to respond in the next few hours. Thanks!

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link

please please please

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

IM, did you get my e-mail from a few days ago? Just wanting to make sure everything went smoothly with PayPal.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Stephen ---

You're good, thanks--your copy will head out in a couple hours!

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

MOD REQUEST --- is there any way to change the email address that appears in my initial post/behind my "sig" in every post to my current one, rather than the lycos account? I just haven't been checking the lycos one often, and when I do, it's a hassle to reply from my current address.

Thanks!

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Also -- just so everyone knows -- if you write to me now, I will still put you on the waiting list. But the timeframe you'll need to wait probably more like months rather than weeks, at this point. I've dedicated myself to at least another 50 copies beyond the initial 100 I planned, but I have the feeling I'm really going to need a break soon. Inspiring as it is to hear from such friendly and passionate people all over the world, the grudge work of making these things is beginning to have an adverse effect on my personal life. So I hope you will all understand. Thanks.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I've only heard the first 3 CDs and this is fantastic. And, as others have mentioned already, the packaging is great! Great work, IM!

As said upthread, obscurity is definitely in the ear of the beholder - I'm a nave in ILM-land so this is my first exposure to many of these artists and songs.

kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Glad you're digging it, Kickitcricket.

12 more copies went out this afternoon, should be arriving all next week.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 1 April 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Got mine today!

ASTONISHING.

this sets the bar so amazingly high for any kind of personal mix project. I am in awe. It's just such a goddam beautiful thing to hold in your hand. Listening to disc 1 now.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 1 April 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Stormy. Did you dig disc 01 (the 'Fire' one?)?

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 4 April 2005 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Could I put my name on the wait-list, too?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 4 April 2005 03:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey Poortheatre --

Yes, definitely. In fact, I think you asked the same question a while ago? Just email me at the address below. Thanks.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 4 April 2005 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Did my payment arrive yet?

I'm trying not to re-read the tracklisting, to surprise myself with it later...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 4 April 2005 09:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., where did you get the packaging done?

Sven Basted (blueski), Monday, 4 April 2005 09:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I got mine, on friday.

listened to only the first two discs, so far. great fun.

thanks, very much, I.M.!

RJG (RJG), Monday, 4 April 2005 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark ---

I don't have the list in front of me, but I'm pretty sure I have, and I've already sent you your copy. I'll make sure, though.

Sven ---

Made it in word/pagemaker/photoshop, printed at a local reprographics shop, folded/stapled myself.

RJG ---

Cool, glad it got there.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

What I wonder is how did you get a hold of that nifty white case? The whole thing looks like it was just dropped in my lap from another planet, I love it. Kindof like the modern equivalent of one of those old black and white fanzines done on a typewriter.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Did a lot of looking around on the internet, searching for "cd box" and other stuff. I wanted to do a cardboard box and individual sleeves, but that would've been economically and temporally impossible. Finding a box that allowed me to print the cover on normal paper was perfect.

I got it from www.ioproducts.com. A slightly bootleg looking website, but I haven't had any problems buying from them.

Finding those CD-Rs made me really happy, too. I've had maybe two failed burns in over 1,500.

The whole thing is kindof like those zines, in that the aesthetic was partly a product of my material limitations.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I've seen a few good boxes of that sort at some retail places, actually--Tower in Lower Queen Anne (that's to Bimble, a fellow Seattleite) has some, IIRC. Just in case you're interested in getting some of your own.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

My belated payment sent yer way, IM.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Ned. Did it ever arrive?

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks for the info IM, it's wonderful presentation. i need boxes like that to house sets of CD mix projects I'm working on so this is really useful and inspiring.

Sven Basted (blueski), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Glad to be of service, Sven. The site also offers various other relatively inexpensive boxes to hold 2, 4, 6 discs.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Ned. Did it ever arrive?

Why yes! Please read upthread. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

D'oh, of course. Sorry Ned--I think I got confused; someone I thought had got their copy said somewhere upthread that they hadn't, and for some reason I thought it was you. Thanks again.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I just got mine. Wow.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Mine came too. Very very impressive. I will start wading through it tonight.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Whew, just got mine too and it's certainly a lot to digest! First off it's visually and physically such a cool artifact with an obviously huge amount of care and time put into it. I jumped around between a few of the discs as my first impulse was that I wanted to hear everything. But now I've just been focusing on the first disc for the past couple of days. Actually, I've been listening to the "Fire" disc. I don't know if they're really meant to go in a particular order.

So far I'm finding that about 10% of it is stuff I'm very familiar with by some of my favorite bands. Another 10 or 20% is stuff I'm pretty familiar with but haven't heard for years. But the great part is of course the 30 or 40% of it that are songs I've never heard or artists I've never heard of but want to hear more immediately. I'll add some more in-depth thoughts later when I've had more time to digest.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Glad these are finally starting to reach everyone. More should tomorrow. A few will go out tomorrow, too. Let me know how the "wading" goes : )

I hope you aren't finding the stuff you don't know to be substancially lower quality than the stuff you do know.

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 7 April 2005 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow- this truly is a wonderful artifact. Job well done! And I haven't even listened to it yet.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 7 April 2005 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Who is this band 'The Passions' on the Heart disc (second track)? 'Alice's Song.' A search on Amazon turned up some doo-wop band from Brooklyn...don't think it's them.

57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., did you get my latest e-mail about revised payment arrangements?

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

You can read about the Passions here:

http://www.trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=passions

I was never all that into them, myself, but I guess it's kindof interesting they shared a label with the Cure.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

57 7th --

Personally, the Passions are one of the more underrated female-lead post-punk bands I know, along with PragVec and Neonbabies (whom I just discovered) and maybe Y Pants. They're a much poppier type of post-punk generally, but with a nice slightly dark rock polish to them. I highly recommend '30,000 Feet Over China,' but 'Michael & Miranda' are both quite good, too. As they're both well out of print (and not looking likely to be otherwise, that I'm aware) email me and I'll see about getting copies to you.

O. Nate ---

Thanks so much! Several people have used that word to describe the set, and I take it as a high compliment of the one thing I can take credit for, which is putting all this stuff in one little place.

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 7 April 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Very much enjoying the 'heart' disc tonight. Strikes me as a sharper counterpart to this little exercise of mine -- addressing the same year!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 April 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

That's a great short-shot, Ned. I was using "Our Secret" for the first few permutations of the mix. Comsats are such an underrated band.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

not around here they aren't! comsat's are worshipped.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

re: comsats, that's really cool. They just don't seem to get name-checked as often as they should. But then again, I don't really read much criticism.

I wish I could explicate my choices like you have, Ned. But I guess if I could, it would take 20 pages, as long as this mix is. . .

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy cow. I'm only halfway through the first CD, and am impressed beyond belief. It's bringing back experiences I forgot I even had. Like, how could I.M. have known that Fad Gadget's "Make Room" was one of the first songs I ever heard on college radio, and that I bought the Raybeats' "Calhoun Surf" single on a whim at the Englishtown, NJ flea market one Sunday morning? I expect many more of these moments as I make my way through this box set...

Yeah, the Passions were amazing. Barbara Gogan's still active musically.

mike a, Friday, 8 April 2005 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link

She appeared on something recently as a guest, didn't she? Trying to remember...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I found an old John Peel tape. 2-tone session special. The first time I ever heared the fall (Fiery Jack, from Totale's Turn). And, "Man on the Tube" from Michael and Miranda album, the Passions.

Oh, and also the time John Peel read out the final verse of "d'ye ken John peel" that I had been looking for, to put online as a tribute last year. Bit late now tho.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Mike ---

If you're having those responses halfway through the first disc, I think it's going to be a fun set for you : )

That kind of thing makes me really happy. All my experience with this music is obviously out of context--nevertheless, it's associated with many memories even for me. That I picked the right tracks to bring back the time for those who were there---pure luck, but gratifying nonetheless.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I think a person would like the Passions if the idea of mixing Comsat Angels with the Go-Go's sounds appealing. Which it does, to me.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 8 April 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I forget how much I love the comsat angels.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 8 April 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

NEVER FORGET.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

And never give it up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Now that I've started listening to the thing, I'm even more impressed. It sounds great - I know it's not easy to even just match the volume levels well, let alone the selection of songs - 90% of which I'd not heard before! This is going to be something that will take me a long time to digest, but really a great concept and great execution so far.

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm so excited.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

O. Nate --

Yeah, I spent a sort of absurd amount of time normalising and doing subtle dynamic gain and manually removing the worst pops to get the stuff to sound good together. Fortunately, there was usually a general cleanliness and sparcity of production on a lot of music then, so production-wise they were easeier to flow together than, say, Big Black, My Bloody Valentine, and a pre-war blues record, etc. But the quality of recording, mastering, mixing varies pretty greatly. It was a lot of work, but hopefully worth it--the sort of thing that hopefully no one will really notice, unless they're prone to thinking about that sort of thing.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Ok, a sort of cool, sort of unfortunate announcment to make:

I found that by reencoding the briefcase tracks at a slightly lower bitrate (still VBR) I could fit a _LOT_ more on the disc. So, I've now changed it to hold 252 tracks, 207 bands who aren't on the main mixes. This has allowed me to fit in a lot of the stuff I'd previously had to leave out but didn't want to based on musical interest/quality. I don't think it's noticably diminished the audio quality--they were already mp3s, so either you already didn't like how they sounded or you probably won't notice the difference.

Anybody whose copy hasn't gone out yet will get this version. With this disc, the set now comes to officially 408 bands/artists, 482 tracks, 24.5 hours.

Now, to be fair, I'd like to offer to send this version to everyone who's already got a copy, if they think they need _MORE_ 1981. Alternately, I'll make the folder available on my soulseek. So, email me at the address below. If you need a physical replacement, it'll take a while---as in, when I'm done with all the copies of the full set, which could be months from now. But I'd still like to make it available to you.

*PLEASE* make sure to make your subject line say "BRIEFCASE" so I'll notice the emails seperate from others.

Here's the updated briefcase tracklist:

231. Agent Orange - Miserlou (2:06)
232. Black Flag - What I See (1:55)
233. Blue Orchids - Dumb Magician (2:54)
234. Blue Nile - The Second Act (4:20)
235. British Electronic Foundation - Optimum Chant (4:11)
236. Cabaret Voltaire - Landslide (2:07)
237. Cardboards - Electrical Generator (3:32)
238. Comsat Angels - Now I Know (BBC) (4:14)
239. Crash Course in Science - Flying Turns (2:58)
240. Creatures - Thumb (3:58)
241. Cure, The - Primary (3:34)
242. Dancing Cigarettes - Puppies in a Sack (4:22)
243. dB's, The - I'm In Love (3:28)
244. Diagram Brothers - Bricks (2:42)
245. Dif Juz - Cs (4:49)
246. DNA - 5-30 (1:04)
247. Durutti Column - Jaqueline (2:19)
248. Embarrassment, The - Sexy Singer Girl (2:14)
249. Eno, Brian and David Byrne - Mea Culpa (Edit) (1:46)
250. Eurythmics - Sing-Sing (4:05)
251. Fall, The - Lie Dream of a Casino Soul (3:11)
252. Family Fodder - Dinosaur Sex (9:01)
253. Fire Engines - Discord (Single) (2:40)
254. Gang of Four - Outside the Trains Don't Run On Time (3:17)
255. Go-Go's - Automatic (3:08)
256. Homosexuals - In Search of the Perfect Baby (5:28)
257. Liaisons Dangereuses - Etre Assis Ou Danser (3:26)
258. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (In) (3:56)
259. Lounge Lizards - Ballad (3:25)
260. Minutemen, The - Boiling (0:57)
261. New Musik - This World Of Walter (2:55)
262. Newman, Colin - Inventory (2:11)
263. Orange Juice - Wan Light (2:30)
264. Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Yodel 1 (4:09)
265. Public Image Ltd - Go Back (3:46)
266. Sound, The - Judgement (5:03)
267. Stranglers - Everybody Loves You When you're Dead (2:41)
268. Teardrop Explodes, The - . . .and The Fighting Takes Over (3:54)
269. Wire - Our Swimmer (Edit) (2:29)
270. X - The Once Over Twice (2:30)
271. Yellow Magic Orchestra - Seoul Music (4:45)
272. Young Marble Giants - Posed by Models (1:24)
273. You've Got Foetus on Your Breath - I Am Surrounded by Incompetence (4:52)
274. Zoomers - From the Planet Moon (2:55)
275. 45 Grave - 45 Grave (3:21)
276. 999 - Bongos on the Nile (2:55)
277. A Flock of Seagulls - Telecommunication (2:32)
278. ABC - Tears Are Not Enough (Edit) (2:22)
279. Adam & The Ants - Prince Charming (3:17)
280. Airmail - In a Moment (5:16)
281. Alternative TV - My Hand Is Still Wet (3:19)
282. Angelic Upstarts - I Understand (2:53)
283. APB - Talk To Me (3:00)
284. Aquila - Without a Care (4:16)
285. Article 58 - Lost & Found (3:26)
286. Au Pairs - Love Song (2:48)
287. Avacados - I Never Knew (2:23)
288. Babylon Dance Band - When I'm Home (2:34)
289. Bad Brains - Pay to Cum (1:30)
290. Bangs, The - Getting Out Of Hand (2:14)
291. Beakers, The - Four Steps Toward a Cultural Revolution (1:29)
292. Beelzebub Youth - Push Push Push (2:03)
293. Bene Gesserit - Do You Know (3:48)
294. Berlinski Zid - Mozgani na Asfaltu (2:44)
295. Birnbaum, Dara - Kojak-Wang (0:55)
296. Black Uhuru - Youth Of Eglington (5:02)
297. Blackouts - Young Man (2:57)
298. Blah Blah Blah - Central Park (3:53)
299. Blancmange - Sad Day (Early) (2:24)
300. Blasters - This Is It (2:15)
301. Blondie - Rapture (Edit) (3:39)
302. B-Movie - Remembrance Day (3:44)
303. Bouncing Czechs - 1992 (Edit) (2:22)
304. Bow Wow Wow - Why Are Babies So Wise (2:55)
305. Bunnydrums - Little Room (3:04)
306. Buzz - Life Ends (1:57)
307. Calm, The - Lol Coxhill (2:09)
308. Chameleons - Here Today (BBC) (3:43)
309. Chefs - Someone I Know (2:07)
310. Chemicals Made From Dirt - Ike (2:27)
311. Cherry Boys - Too Much Confusion (2:44)
312. China Shop - Kowtow (3:53)
313. Chords, The - One More Minute (3:35)
314. Christian Death - Dogs (2:54)
315. Clash, The - The Magnificent Dance (3:25)
316. Club Tango - Performance (Edit) (2:24)
317. Colours Out of Time - The Waiting (BBC) (3:38)
318. Commericals - Simon (2:18)
319. Conservatives - Suburban Bitch (1:21)
320. Crispy Ambulance - The Presence (Edit) (3:19)
321. Dalek I Love You - Heartbeat (2:53)
322. Damned, The - Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (Edit) (2:51)
323. Dangerous Girls - Men in Suits (2:41)
324. Danse Society - Continent (4:40)
325. Dark Day - Extermination (1:10)
326. Deep Freeze Mice - Dr. Z (3:38)
327. Department S - Age Concern (2:31)
328. Digital Dinosaurs - The Sideways Man (2:22)
329. Doctor Mix & The Remix - Brand New Cadillac (1:47)
330. Dramatis - Love Needs No Disguise (4:39)
331. Drowning Craze - Storage Case (3:05)
332. Dum Dum Dum - Dum Dum Dum (2:56)
333. Effigies - Strong Box (1:11)
334. Eight Eyed Spy - Lazy In Love (2:56)
335. Ejectors - Little Johnny (2:41)
336. Electric Guitars - Continental Shelf (2:55)
337. Essential Logic - Fanfare In the Garden (3:06)
338. Ex, The - Weapons for El Salvador (2:47)
339. Factrix - Thin Line (2:20)
340. Fair, Jad - Fish Can Talk (0:52)
341. Fast Set, The - King of the Rumbling Spires (2:00)
342. Fifteen Minutes - Last Chance for You (2:39)
343. Fingerprintz - Shadowed (3:04)
344. Five Or Six - The Trial (2:49)
345. Fleshtones - The Dreg (3:10)
346. Freddy And The Fruitloops - Right & Wrong (3:09)
347. Front 242 - Body to Body (4:10)
348. Generation X - Dancing With Myself (3:47)
349. George Harrassment - Yoghurt (1:20)
350. Gifted Children - Lichtenstein Girl (3:13)
351. Gilbert & Lewis - Hung Up To Dry Whilst Building An Arch (2:24)
352. Girls At Our Best - Go for Gold (3:22)
353. Gizmos - Biscuits & Gravy (2:05)
354. Goldman, Vivien - Launderette (3:44)
355. Gordon, Kim & Miranda - Working Youth (0:49)
356. Haig, Paul - Mad Horses (4:34)
357. Haircut 100 - Favourite Shirt (3:05)
358. Harrison, Kevin - People in Space (1:55)
359. Icehouse - Icehouse (Edit) (3:04)
360. Icicle Works - When Winter Lasted Forever (Edit) (2:25)
361. In Camera - Die Laughing (4:38)
362. Ippu-Do - Mission Impossible Theme (2:22)
363. It's Immaterial - A Gigantic Raft (Edit) (3:23)
364. Jackson, Joe - Beat Crazy (3:21)
365. Jagatara - Hey Say! (Edit) (2:58)
366. Jam, The - Absolute Beginners (2:51)
367. Kontakt Microfoon Orkest - Do the Residue (4:49)
368. Lambrettas, The - Decent Town (3:12)
369. Last Four Digits - Diddy Wah Diddy (1:52)
370. Leer, Thomas - Kings Of Sham (3:55)
371. Legal Weapon - Daddy's Gone Mad (2:36)
372. Liliput - Eisiger Wind (3:28)
373. Limp, The - Marked Man (2:45)
374. Lovich, Lene - New Toy (3:15)
375. Ludus - Mutilate (2:33)
376. Macs, The - I'm 37 (2:39)
377. Malaria - How Do You Like My New Dog (2:49)
378. Marine - Life in Reverse (2:44)
379. Mass - Cross Purposes (4:26)
380. Maximum Joy - Strech (Edit) (2:57)
381. Medium Medium - The Glitterhouse (2:16)
382. Men At Work - Who Can It Be Now (3:19)
383. Metal Urbain - Hysterie Connective (Early Version) (2:43)
384. Meteors - Graveyard Stomp (2:05)
385. Method Actors, The - You (3:59)
386. Minny Pops - Dolphin's Spurt (2:56)
387. Misfits, The - Halloween (1:46)
388. Modern English - Black Houses (5:44)
389. Monochrome Set - Ten Don'ts For Honeymooners (3:05)
390. Moore, Thurston - The Fucking Youth Of Today (0:49)
391. Mr Science - Mr. Science (2:23)
392. My Captains - Converse (4:29)
393. Naked Lunch - La Femme (5:23)
394. Names - Music For Someone (1:56)
395. Nasmak - Vaseline des Artistes (3:14)
396. Native Hipsters - Tropical Fish in the Sink (3:38)
397. Neonbabies - Profi (3:50)
398. Neonbabies - Spass Muss Sein (1:57)
399. Neu Electrikk - Lust of Berlin (2:46)
400. No More - Suicide Commando (3:19)
401. Oingo Boingo - Capitalism (3:40)
402. Our Daughter's Wedding - Airlines (3:35)
403. Passage - Hip Rebels (3:28)
404. Philosophic Collage - Toxic Poppies (1:34)
405. Pin Group - Ambivalence (3:28)
406. Plimsouls - Mini-Skirt Minnie (2:42)
407. Plus Instruments - Things (2:20)
408. Poison Girls - Ideologically Unsound (2:39)
409. Police, The - Darkness (3:10)
410. Polyphonic Size - Mothers Little Helper (3:06)
411. Polyrock - Rain (4:01)
412. Pop, Iggy - Sea of Love (3:40)
413. Positive Noise - End In Tears (3:47)
414. Post Raisin Band - Pink Lincoln (2:25)
415. Predator - He Thinks He Knows Me (3:00)
416. Quad Pi - Near You (2:07)
417. Rally Go - Mass Brew Action (2:34)
418. Ranaldo, Lee - Shift (0:45)
419. Red Asphalt - Red Asphalt (1:51)
420. Red Cross - Puss 'N' Boots (2:33)
421. Red Krayola - An Old Man's Dream (2:30)
422. Reflections - 4 Countries (1:53)
423. Revillos - She's Fallen In Love with a Monster Man (3:19)
424. Room, The - Bated Breath (4:01)
425. Russell, Arthur - Sketch for Face of Helen (Edit) (3:31)
426. Schizoid - White House (3:13)
427. Scientists - She Said She Loves Me (2:09)
428. Second Layer - Distortion (Edit) (2:39)
429. Shivvers - Remember Tonight (3:21)
430. Simple Minds - Theme for Great Cities (Edit) (4:13)
431. Ski Patrol - Cut (3:55)
432. Slow Children - Spring in Fialta (3:24)
433. Slugfuckers - Schizo Revolution(1981) (mid-fi) (3:44)
434. Social Distortion - Telling Them (3:08)
435. Sort Sol - Misguided (4:19)
436. Spandau Ballet - To Cut A Long Story Short (Edit) (3:19)
437. Spanish Dogs - Cleveland (2:39)
438. Splodgenessabounds - Cowpunk Medlum (2:36)
439. Starter - Part of You (3:09)
440. Stolen Power - Little White Lies (2:45)
441. Strutz - Break Point (2:21)
442. Student Nurse - Discover Your Feet (2:34)
443. Suburban Lawns - Computer Date (1:05)
444. Subway Sect, The - Parallel Lines (2:38)
445. Surplus Stock - Let's Kill Each Other (3:19)
446. Swamp Children - Call Me Honey (4:53)
447. Swell Maps - Forest Fire (released 1981) (3:01)
448. Takahashi, Yukihiro - Something in the Air (4:51)
449. Tame O'Mearas - Curl Curl (2:18)
450. Tanks - March of the Slugs (4:39)
451. Teenage Filmstars - I Helped Patrick McGoohan Escape (2:55)
452. Telefones - Solid Ground (3:12)
453. Tenants - Submind (2:48)
454. The Past Seven Days - Raindance (Edit) (4:57)
455. The The - Untitled (3:23)
456. Theatre of Hate - My Own Invention (3:17)
457. Theoretical Girls - Electronic Angie (Studio) (3:37)
458. Thompson Twins - Politics (2:20)
459. Times, The - Biff! Bang! Pow! (2:51)
460. Triffids - This Boy (2:55)
461. TSOL - I'm Tired Of Life (1:50)
462. Tucker, Maureen - Louie Louie (2:41)
463. Two by Fours - Another 8 Hours (1:34)
464. UB40 - One in Ten (4:33)
465. Urban Verbs - Business and the Rational Mind (4:51)
466. Urinals - I Hate (2:02)
467. U-Turn - Price of Fame (2:16)
468. Vapors, The - Jimmie Jones (Single Version) (3:23)
469. Visage - Mind Of A Toy (4:28)
470. Vital Disorder - Let's Talk About Prams (2:17)
471. Volk, Hugh - Talk of the Town (2:04)
472. Walking Floors - No Next Time (2:26)
473. Wall of Voodoo - Crack the Bell (3:33)
474. Wanderers - Beyond the Law (2:08)
475. Watt, Ben - Departure (1:35)
476. Weirdos, The - Weird World (Demo) (3:02)
477. Wild West - Fierce Atoms (2:25)
478. Work, The - Duty (1:04)
479. xAx - Banging Your Head (3:41)
480. Xmal Deutschland - Schwarz Welt (2:39)
481. Xpozez - New Law (1:19)
482. Zounds - Demystification (3:45)

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 9 April 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy fuck, this is the greatest piece of mail I have ever recieved...listening to the Fire disc for the third time, still lost in it despite the fact that I'm itching to get to the rest. Really phenomenal work, man. Thank you.

Do you have any objections with me submitting the track names to CDDB, so that the next person who wants to dump this onto their iPod/whatever doesn't have to type all the track names in? Wanted to check before I went ahead and did it...

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 9 April 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy fuck, this is the greatest piece of mail I have ever recieved...listening to the Fire disc for the third time, still lost in it despite the fact that I'm itching to get to the rest. Really phenomenal work, man. Thank you.

Thank you!

I'm fine with submitting the tracklisting. Just don't mention my name or email address anywhere, if you don't mind. I meant to do it myself, but I couldn't figure out how.

I.M.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 10 April 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No problem. Anonymity is understood. I'll try to get them up in a few minutes.

John Justen (johnjusten), Sunday, 10 April 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

A few of the discs are already CDDB'ed, btw.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 10 April 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

barbara gogan appeared on one of the hector zazou albums. can't remember if it was sahara blue or the latter ones.

that briefcase is fantastic looking. and 1981 was a special year too.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Sunday, 10 April 2005 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link

12 more went out today, keep your eyes peeled if you're expecting a copy. I'm going to announce another round soon, so if you're received an email from me saying a copy is ready, but haven't gotten in touch with me yet, I'll have to move you back into the waiting list soon.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link

The 'Computer' disc has proven to be the perfect soundtrack to that Q/Mojo electropop special issue I burbled about on the "Blasphemous Rumours" thread -- and more to the point, has also introduced me to some marvellous new songs amid many a loved standard. Again, sir, kudos.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, Ned. I continue to be thrilled that someone as versed as you enjoys the set. Thanks for the continued feedback!

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

.. And now I'm hoping mine hasn't been sent out yet, greedy get I am...

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Mark ---

I'm afraid it has been : \ Drop me an email and I'll put you on the 'Briefcase' list, and I'll get you the final version eventually.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Heck, don't worry about it. The email below is the real one, but put me last on the list, it's only fair.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Mine arrived today. It's really impressive, it's very representative of everything I like about music and music fans.

I've had a few friends express interest in a listening party this weekend, so I'll make sure the word is heard.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

a listening party this weekend

That's incredibly geeky and incredibly cool. Hope they like it!

Supposedly some kids in my town are organising a "1981" dance party. I might DJ, even though I don't really "dance".

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I got mine on Monday (my 30th birthday) and I couldn't be happier. Even though it was unintentional, THANK YOU I.M., for the wonderful birthday present! It was one of the best gifts I received. I have burned all the songs to my iPod and I am currently listening to the entire mix on shuffle all day at work. It's like I'm six all over again (now if only I could be typing this email on a commodore PET computer for verisimilitude's sake, then I would truly be transported back to those days). Congratulations on a job well done!

ianinportland (ianinportland), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

but put me last on the list, it's only fair.

Haha! If it helps any Mark, I feel the same way you do. Especially since some of the added songs were d/l from me personally only a week before and previously unknown to our compiler. While I don't think including them was a crime in and of itself (I do not think of them as my property), I do think it's a bit dodgy to then claim he "had to leave them out" of the original set for other reasons, and it also leaves me in a position of having to catch up with the other songs added just like everyone else. I.M. is not going to be d/l anything from me anymore if I have anything to say about it, and I don't want any new and improved Briefcases, either.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Especially since some of the added songs were d/l from me personally only a week before and previously unknown to our compiler.

Friend, by my count, not more than 4 tracks of the 71 I added to the briefcase were downloaded from you, so I'm not exactly sure what you're problem is. It seems you have issues, and your slanted communication has bugged me since day one. Frankly, I'll go a step further than not downloading anything from you--I'd rather not have to talk with you ever again. You speak as though you're giving commands, you ask for my albums list, the only reason I can imagine being you'd like for me to send you albums; you complain about how other people who aren't experts were getting their sets before you, so I bumped you up in the queue; and you tel me I'm ego tripping for sharing with you the nice remarks from Mr. Reynolds I'd just then discovered. You can take your crumby sub-Crispy Ambulance bore-core records and keep them.

I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

!

*bows*

(Am listening to the final disc right now. Can I just say again how genius this is, and that I can't wait to listen to the Briefcase -- the older version, which though I wouldn't mind the newer one is MORE than perfectly fine.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

have i moved up on the list at all? :(

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Not to mention that I had to explain in fucking baby talk what a goddamned mp3-CD is and how one makes a data disc. I hope for your sake you were having me on with all that, and that you're not really so slow.

One final thing---I think being 10 years old in 1981 doesn't quit qualify you as having "been there". You spoke to me in the most condescending tones, in your aged wisdom and insight; while every guy who really has insight, like Ned or Simon and everyone else, has been supportive and helpful.

You absolutely *do* think of all of this as your property; what confuses me is how, knowing as much of it as you know, you manage to have such piss poor taste.

I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

have i moved up on the list at all? :(

Cutty---

I'm afraid I don't remember what email address you used to put in your request. Would you mind emailing me again, and I'll see where you are?

I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

This whole bimble/I.M. exchange is pretty bizarre.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

in fairness, searching soulseek by year, eg. 1981 gives hundreds of results. so, to say that you are owed a copy because 4 of the tracks where downloaded from you is, and i quote one of my critics, "utter shit". what makes your mp3's more special than anyone elses? unless you are the artist(es) in question providing quality lossless recordings from the original masters, shut up and stop your whining. and throwing a hissy fit saying that so-and-so will never download anything from you ever again. is that supposed to be a crushing blow for music lovers everywhere?

grow up please.
moving on.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 14 April 2005 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link

ummmmmmmm changing topics, would anyone whose already got all the tracks typed out mind submitting the discs to freedb as well please? pretty please?

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 16 April 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i gotta pop in and thank i.m. - its been a pleasure listening to all this music especially all the bands i hadn't yet gotten to hear (or hear of).

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 16 April 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., would you mind posting a list of just the songs added to the "2nd edition" of the briefcase disc (rather than the complete contents as above)? I see no reason why you should need to shlep me an extra disc, but i'd like to easily see which tracks I'm missing.

a happy 1981 nut (Robust Cookies), Saturday, 16 April 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Artdamages ---

Thanks, back. I'm looking forward to hearing about which undiscovered (to them) bands people liked best, or what albums they went out and bought as a result of the set : )


1981 nut ---


I'll do my best. There've really been a few incrimental changes over the months, and then this big change recently, so I don't really know who has exactly what. Just trying to remember what's new or has changed since the first versions, here goes:

1. Agent Orange - Miserlou (1981) (2:06)
2. Black Flag - What I See (1981) (1:55)
3. Blue Orchids - Dumb Magician (1981) (2:54)
4. Blue Nile - The Second Act (1981) (4:20)
5. British Electronic Foundation - Optimum Chant (1981) (4:11)
6. Cabaret Voltaire - Landslide (1981) (2:07)
7. Crash Course in Science - Flying Turns (1981) (2:58)
8. Creatures - Thumb (1981) (3:58)
9. Dancing Cigarettes - Puppies in a Sack (1981) (4:22)
10. dB's, The - I'm In Love (1981) (3:28)
11. Diagram Brothers - Bricks (1981) (2:42)
12. Dif Juz - Cs (1981) (4:49)
13. Durutti Column - Jaqueline (1981) (2:19)
14. Eno, Brian and David Byrne - Mea Culpa (Edit) (1981) (1:46)
15. Eurythmics - Sing-Sing (1981) (4:05)
16. Fall, The - Lie Dream of a Casino Soul (1981) (3:11)
17. Fire Engines - Discord (Single) (1981) (2:40)
18. Gang of Four - Outside the Trains Don't Run On Time (1981) (3:17)
19. Go-Go's - Automatic (1981) (3:08)
20. Lounge Lizards - Ballad (1981) (3:25)
21. Minutemen, The - Boiling (1981) (0:57)
22. Newman, Colin - Inventory (1981) (2:11)
23. Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Yodel 1 (1981) (4:09)
24. Sound, The - Judgement (1981) (5:03)
25. Stranglers - Everybody Loves You When you're Dead (1981) (2:41)
26. Wire - Our Swimmer (Edit) (1981) (2:29)
27. X - The Once Over Twice (1981) (2:30)
28. Yellow Magic Orchestra - Seoul Music (1981) (4:45)
29. Young Marble Giants - Posed by Models (1981) (1:24)
30. You've Got Foetus on Your Breath - I Am Surrounded by Incompetence (1981) (4:52)
31. Angelic Upstarts - I Understand (1981) (2:53)
32. APB - Talk To Me (1981) (3:00)
33. Article 58 - Lost & Found (1981) (3:26)
34. Babylon Dance Band - When I'm Home (1981) (2:34)
35. Beakers, The - Four Steps Toward a Cultural Revolution (1981) (1:29)
36. Bene Gesserit - Do You Know (1981) (3:48)
37. Berlinski Zid - Mozgani na Asfaltu (1981) (2:44)
38. Birnbaum, Dara - Kojak-Wang (1981) (0:55)
39. Black Uhuru - Youth Of Eglington (1981) (5:02)
40. Blackouts - Young Man (1981) (2:57)
41. Blasters - This Is It (1981) (2:15)
42. Calm, The - Lol Coxhill (1981) (2:09)
43. Cherry Boys - Too Much Confusion (1981) (2:44)
44. China Shop - Kowtow (1981) (3:53)
45. Chords, The - One More Minute (1981) (3:35)
46. Clash, The - The Magnificent Dance (1981) (3:25)
47. Electric Guitars - Continental Shelf (1981) (2:55)
48. Fleshtones - The Dreg (1981) (3:10)
49. Freddy And The Fruitloops - Right & Wrong (1981) (3:09)
50. Gizmos - Biscuits & Gravy (1981) (2:05)
51. Gordon, Kim & Miranda - Working Youth (1981) (0:49)
52. Harrison, Kevin - People in Space (1981) (1:55)
53. In Camera - Die Laughing (1981) (4:38)
54. Ippu-Do - Mission Impossible Theme (1981) (2:22)
55. Leer, Thomas - Kings Of Sham (1981) (3:55)
56. Macs, The - I'm 37 (1981) (2:39)
57. Method Actors, The - You (1981) (3:59)
58. Moore, Thurston - The Fucking Youth Of Today (1981) (0:49)
59. Mr Science - Mr. Science (1981) (2:23)
60. Naked Lunch - La Femme (1981) (5:23)
61. Nasmak - Vaseline des Artistes (1981) (3:14)
62. Neonbabies - Profi (1981) (3:50)
63. Neonbabies - Spass Muss Sein (1981) (1:57)
64. Philosophic Collage - Toxic Poppies (1981) (1:34)
65. Plus Instruments - Things (1981) (2:20)
66. Positive Noise - End In Tears (1981) (3:47)
67. Rally Go - Mass Brew Action (1981) (2:34)
68. Ranaldo, Lee - Shift (1981) (0:45)
69. Revillos - She's Fallen In Love with a Monster Man (1981) (3:19)
70. Russell, Arthur - Sketch for Face of Helen (Edit) (1981) (3:31)
71. Schizoid - White House (1981) (3:13)
72. Scientists - She Said She Loves Me (1981) (2:09)
73. Shivvers - Remember Tonight (1981) (3:21)
74. Ski Patrol - Cut (1981) (3:55)
75. Spanish Dogs - Cleveland (1981) (2:39)
76. Starter - Part of You (1981) (3:09)
77. Stolen Power - Little White Lies (1981) (2:45)
78. Student Nurse - Discover Your Feet (1981) (2:34)
79. Surplus Stock - Let's Kill Each Other (1981) (3:19)
80. Tanks - March of the Slugs (1981) (4:39)
81. Volk, Hugh - Talk of the Town (1981) (2:04)
82. Watt, Ben - Departure (1981) (1:35)
83. Work, The - Duty (1981) (1:04)
84. Xmal Deutschland - Schwarz Welt (1981) (2:39)

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., my cousin, a man of good worth, saw your set last night when I visited him and was deeply impressed. He would love to be added to the waiting list but understands if you need to take a break!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll do my best. There've really been a few incrimental changes over the months, and then this big change recently, so I don't really know who has exactly what.

THIS is exactly where I view the problem to be: you don't know who has what. Certainly the set is a great thing as it is, don't get me wrong. I don't regret having it at all. But to continually change the contents of the briefcase shows a blatant disregard for anyone who happens to care about these things. Granted not all people will, and that's fine. But you knew when you announced the 'big change' that it would likely make some people unhappy, because you said you had "a sort of cool, sort of unfortunate announcment to make". So it shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

As for having "piss poor taste" - for goodness sake, taste is a subjective thing and no two people have the same taste. It isn't something you cultivate to impress other people (at least I've never viewed it as such), it just is. I can hardly think of a more benign "insult" than saying someone has "piss poor taste". I don't like some of the bands you are into either - big deal!

As for whether you consider 10 years old to be old enough to have "been there" I couldn't give a rat's ass about that either. Whatever this elusive thing is called "being there" is something only you can define and give meaning to because it honestly doesn't mean anything to me - I don't see it as the status symbol you so obviously do. There are people even 10 years older than I am who have no interest in any of this music and likely never will! People who write books about music like to try to connect the musical trends of a certain time to the social/political atmosphere of the era in question. In my personal opinion, that connection overgeneralizes things and doesn't really go very far. It's just revisionism, and detracts from the artistic acheivements of the musicians themselves. Furthermore, individual accounts of that time are just that - individual accounts. They err on the side of specificity where the aforementioned music writers are too general in their assessments. Anyone looking for an logical explanation as to why so much amazing music came out circa '78-'82 is wasting their time. But that's only my opinion. And just for the record, Ned is the same age as I am.

Again, my point here is just that to continually change the contents of the briefcase isn't the most fair or considerate way to go about things, and I think it actually detracts (sadly) from how great the set is AS IT IS. It means you have more respect for people who wouldn't care about these things than for those who would. I find this puzzling since obviously you are a collector of the era yourself and were in a similar situation, you would be one of those people who cared! I can only explain this behaviour by supposing it all stems from your obvious inferiority complex. From what I can tell you are every bit as knowledgeable as the average ILMer if not more so. There is no need for you to be so self-deprecating - as I noticed two people tried to point out to you upthread as regards the opening two paragraphs of your liner notes.

I know of even one ILMer who is 5 years younger than yourself and quite knowledgeable in his own right, yet he feels no need for such self-deprecation.

So again, I just think to continually change the set is a bad idea and shows disrespect for people. You may feel different, but don't be surprised when people are unhappy.

Furthermore: you claimed you were sharing the new Briefcase folder on slsk. I tried browsing your files tonight as an experiment because I had not been able to browse them before and this is the first time I've tried since installing the new version of the program. I don't plan on d/l from you, but for the sake of anyone else who might want to - I don't see that you are sharing that folder like you said you would. Hence, it seems that you are showing further disrespect for people who might care about these things.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 April 2005 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not going to read all that, but as you'll notice I put "being there" in quotes any time I mention it--meaning it's not something I take seriously, and it's something that I find interesting but hardly important. Of course it's elusive, but if it has a basic meaning, it's that someone was conscious of this music at the time of its release, or maybe a bit more by being somehow involved with it on a cultural level. As I said in the liner notes, it's probably something someone who "was there" finds adds to the music, but it's not necessary for an appreciation for the music. Not much of a status symbol.

Beyond that, as far as I can tell you're the only person who has any problem with me making changes to the set--especially given that I've offered to "update" anyone who wants to.

As for the folder being shared on soulseek, it was; my shared folders were reset; and I forgot to add it. It's now shared, but since you're in a huff and won't be downloading any of it out of some weird protest of something or other, I guess you don't care.

I welcome criticisms of my selections; debates about the ethicality of such an undertaking as this set; the worth/unimportance of understanding the cultural milieu; or any number of ephemeral subjects related to this music. But whatever has upset you is so unclear that I doubt, after all your words expended on the subject, none of us understands what is the matter. Frankly, I doubt it's of any interest.

Moving on, please.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 April 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

This briefcase you've compiled looks excellent. I know you must have a big backlog but I'd love to get a copy if possible. Let me know if it still is and how I compensate you for your efforts.

Thanks in advance.

-Bill

Bill Garretson, Sunday, 17 April 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

And just for the record, Ned is the same age as I am.

Look, can I be left out of this, please? FWIW, Bimble, I think you've acted very poorly here, as I'm sure I've indicated.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 17 April 2005 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Received the set Friday. I'm three discs in. The set is amazing. I had a gathering at the pad and had it on and everyone is gaga for it. Just want to say well done, and thanks for the hard work.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Sunday, 17 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I.M., I've received mine now and it is a beautiful, awe-inspring thing, thankyou. give me a few weeks to get through it and i'll let you know what i think. i already think it is pretty much the best thing i've ever got in the post :-)

pete b. (pete b.), Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

bimble..., you are a bit weird.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 17 April 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i also got this set in the mail on Friday, and I've been spending the weekend enjoying it. Aside from the historical aspect of the whole thing, it's simply a really good listen--I don't think I've come across a bad track yet. the effort that was obviously put into sequencing really paid off, and the individual discs have a cohesive feel to them without being overly same-y. I'm only about four discs into it, but it's been great so far. i'll be back with some other comments as I make my way through 1981! thanks IM for offering this up to everybody.

tylerw, Sunday, 17 April 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

well, I was loving this for a week until a rock was thrown through a friend's car's window and it (along with my laptop, iPod, camera) was stolen. On the plus side, they obviously appreciated my backpack's contents enough to defecate next to the car.

Can you put me back on the waiting list, I.M? I'd like to replace this, and it's certainly worth $26.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

bimble.. really now? you are a disgrace to this whole affair.

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Tyler ---

I'm glad you appreciate it on a stand-alone-mix level. That much music put across any other way would probably be overwhelming, and not very accessible as anything other than an historical documen---and this music is so very alive to me, I'd have hated to present it that way. Hope the next five mixes (and 12 hours of "bonus" material) hold up : )


Stephen ---

That fucking sucks, I'm sorry to hear. I'll put you on the waiting list again. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help--did you lost any music permanently? Or just iPod/laptop copies?

As for what I can make out of Bimble's complaint, I guess I just don't subscribe to his notion that the people who contacte me first about the set are per se those who will enjoy it "most". Therefore, I don't see any reason that people later along should miss out just because I realised late into the process that I could fit another three hours of music on the appendix disc; and I don't see any reason people who already got their sets (like Bimble) should feel excluded, as I've offered to send replacement discs for the cost of shipping. Where the set now stands is basically the definitive version--I can't fit anything more. My aim is just to get the music heard.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Unfortunately I went a little crazy on the iTunes music store these last couple weeks and (like a fool) didn't back anything up. I've made up my mind not to worry about any of the music downloaded off slsk or other P2P's, but I guess this kind of served to remind me how buying files of songs online doesn't compare with buying the actual product.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Stephen ---

I'd wondered about that, having never done any iTunes type stuff. If the file gets deleted/lost/stolen, do you have no recourse? Can you not download it again, having paid for the license?

I'm definitely still staunchly materialist about music, for better or worse.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

As for what I can make out of Bimble's complaint, I guess I just don't subscribe to his notion that the people who contacte me first about the set are per se those who will enjoy it "most".

I originally thought he was complaining about your statement that the 71 "extra" tracks were cut due to space limitations, when in fact he's claiming that you didn't even know about (at least some of) those 71 tracks until after you finished the set.

No matter which story is correct, obviously you're going to be a magnet for all things 1981. People will send you lots of stuff from 1981, wondering if you've heard it or not, and it's natural that you would want to update the set with some of this extra material. After all, you said from the start that your choices were subjective and you had no intention of covering all the bases.

So basically, revisions/additions to the set are not only unsurprising, but expected.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 18 April 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

And it's so nothing to sweat over. Consider -- the original Nuggets set was only an initial overview, but as the many similar sets since then showed, that was scratching the surface. This, by default, is even more overwhelming in its scope than Nuggets was, but it STILL isn't everything, and never could be. If differing editions come out, they come out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 April 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

For whatever reason, PayPal isn't making your addresses the reply-to when it notifies me of payment. So I haven't been able to write and confirm that I've got your payment. But I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who is contacting me in such a timely fashion re: my email from yesterday.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Sent out 26 today, so a bunch of you should have yours soon.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Got your email - thanks so much! Now I have to work out if my PayPal is set up right and if I can remember the password.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I have just about finished listening to the mp3 disc and can only once again echo my praise. This really is something of a landmark, and the sheer joy and knowledge both I've gained from it has been quite lovely. I.M., you've done grand. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Was I one of those?

Max D, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

This is a simply incredible works!!! and it is a really masterpiece for who loves that music period.... i will take it.... sure!!!

Gabriele Arpaia, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I got mine yesterday!

thanks I.M.

there's quite a lot to digest here!

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Today it got here.

Man, it's big.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Cozen, Mark ----

You won't believe me if I say I never set out for quantity, only for quality. I think that holds true for at least 85% of the stuff, and the rest isn't bad, per se. Hope you dig it.

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

This looks amazing; is it too late to get on the waiting list for this worthy project?

If so, then more the fool me.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Not to set a fire here so late in the game, but I haven't had a chance to check in on this for a while, so I sill simply say that in my opinion, Bimble's comments (sorry, don't know you fella, so don't take it personally) are extremely ungrateful. I guess I see this as a labor of love, so be happy you recieved it at all. Please be grateful and be quiet.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Geez Loueez Am I too late to get in on this? good god

hanan, Saturday, 23 April 2005 07:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it just my imagination, or is the common theme running through the "FIRE" disc a sort of reggae/dub-derived rhythmic feeling?

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

thanks IM, still working my way through this but its solid gold so far!

zappi (joni), Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Zappi ---

Glad to hear it! Hope it stays so!


O. Nate ---

That very well could be, though I didn't consciously think of it in those terms. It's obviously one of the less genre-oriented, more general feel-oriented mixes. For me, it was just about "the beat," in a different way somehow than the 'Feet' mix. But I suppose you could say that a large percentage of "post-punk" was influenced by reggae/dub (and to my ears, African musics, and funk obviously, and Can, and Kraftwerk, and VU, and . . . . . .).

In any case, as I'm rather obsessed with rhythm, the 'Fire' disc is definitely one of my personal faves.

I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 23 April 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

And just for the record, Ned is the same age as I am.

Look, can I be left out of this, please? FWIW, Bimble, I think you've acted very poorly here, as I'm sure I've indicated.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), April 17th, 2005.

The only reason I mentioned Ned at all was because of this quote from I.M. from upthread:

You spoke to me in the most condescending tones, in your aged wisdom and insight; while every guy who really has insight, like Ned or Simon and everyone else, has been supportive and helpful.

My point was: I do not think I spoke to you in a condescending tone, and I would like to understand what this "insight" is that Ned "or Simon and everyone else" can offer about the year of 1981. I mean, if Ned and I are the same age, I find it hard to believe he could offer some special "insight" that I couldn't. However, if I am wrong, and he has been blessed with some special divine powers beyond his years I would honestly like to understand what this "insight" is.

As for what I can make out of Bimble's complaint, I guess I just don't subscribe to his notion that the people who contacte me first about the set are per se those who will enjoy it "most".

Exactly when did I ever say this?

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 April 2005 05:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Perhaps I should rephrase my earlier "Please be grateful, and be quiet" in more clear, dulcet tones.

Please stop chipping away at what is inherently a selfless act of I.M. sharing his personal project, and shut the fuck up.

Honestly, let your petty greivances sit for a minute. I don't have the newest briefcase version. I can get it if I want. So can you.

If you feel so slighted by the new version of the briefcase disc, I will be glad to send you money via paypal to reimburse your investment if you promise not to continue whining and derailing this thread. It's worth the money to stop what I consider to be a collosal waste of my time. You can contact me at the below address...I would gladly spend the $13 and get back to the matter at hand.

John Justen (johnjusten), Sunday, 24 April 2005 09:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Bimble, just relax, ok? You first accuse me of fetishising the idea of being essentially old enough to have "been there," and then you propose that Reynolds et. can't have a greater insight into the cultural significance of this music than you because they're aren't old enough to have "been there". So which of us is placing inordinate importance on age? I'm still not sure what your complaint is.

What are "these things" that you care about for which I'm showing blatant disregard? That's where I'm getting the impression that you think there are those who "deserve" this set more or who will enjoy it more, as I took to be the basis of your very first complaint when you thought you were deep in the queue due to email malfunction. As I've stated before, my "ideal" audience for the set was the kid who knows little but has the potential for passion--not collector scum like you and me. But I decided the only equitable and manageable approach to distributing this mix was first-come-first-serve, a rule I've broken only rarely, once being for you.

I have a feeling Reynolds has avoided being "overly general" in 570 pages worth of investigation. Whereas I probably would be wasting my time if I actually attempted to explicate the cultural relevance of any of this music---I haven't done the research, and I'm not a writer.

I can understand that you don't think it's fair that those who ask for the set at a later date get *more* music---but that's why I offered to send everyone who wants it the recently added stuff. If you really have a problem with the inclusion of the Ski Patrol track I got from you, I'll remove it. That should redress the practical complaints I've been able to discern. You've called me both an egotist and overly self-depricating; I'm pretty certain I'm neither. I know what I know--and I know enough to see how much I don't know. Beyond that, let's just agree to disagree, ok? As far as I'm aware, you're the only person who is "unhappy". At least, let's work this out via a private exchange, if we must.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

That wouldn't be any fun

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahaha -- my joke about Simon Reynolds providing proper "liner-notish liner notes" for the 1981 set has come true, even if he didn't know it. Obviously, the key is that they can't be 570 pages long and give away *all* the stories (like his proper book):

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,13887,1464368,00.html


That's about exactly what I had in mind but knew I couldn't pull off.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

here's yr liner notes:

http://members.aol.com/blissout/postpunk.htm

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan ---

Doesn't seem to be up anymore, but yeah, when I read that "primer" was when I realised Simon's book was something to look forward to.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

It's up, I opened up the page just now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Nowadays, though, you mostly have the opposite problem: bands where the sonic substance might be pretty undeniable, the musical taste informing it impeccable, but there's no Great Idea behind the enterprise. And without that, what is it really worth? (There's more than enough "good music" out there to listen to, stockpiled in the megastores). Post-punk was a time when there was so much electricity in the air that even the era's unrealised experiments and failed pretentiousness seem more suggestive, and more cherishable, than the present's perfected product.

That pretty much sums up my curmudgeony stance, at least re: current pop/rock/electronic-dance fare.

I "linked" to that essay in the 'READ' bit of the booklet. Good stuff.

I.M. (I.M.), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

my likewise curmudgeony stance is perhaps a bit more optomistic, which states that the "Great Idea" behind today's enterprises is that it's enough to simply not completely suck, that while there's plenty of stockpiled music in the stores, it's enough to go to a small rock show and see a band that is actually exciting, rare as that is.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 April 2005 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Just posting to say that if you recieved the mailing dated 18 March notifying you that a copy was available for you, and have not as yet contacted me, I'll be placing you back in the waiting list tomorrow (25 April). I'm not sure whom this applies to yet, because it will take some effort to figure it out--but basically it boils down to that I can't guarantee I'll have a copy available for you immediately. I just can't leave 100+ people hanging for so long. Hope this is fair.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, those who recieved the "ready to ship" email of the 31 March (unfortunately mistitled "31 April") and have not as yet contacted me, I'll need to stop guaranteeing you a copy around the beginning of May, just to keep moving on. Thanks.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

So a question I've been curious to ask, especially since I've been talking to a few of the people who actually own/made bits of the music included: has anyone been inspired to buy any records via the 1981 set? I know a lot of it isn't in print, but a good measure of it is on small labels.

That was a hope of mine--not to satisfy an appetite by to incite it--toward the one form of consumerism I've never had a moments guilt over.

Any major finds for anyone? Any suggestions for "links" in the buy or read sections for possible future editions?

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sent out another 20 today, mostly ILMers.

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

its lovely IM - got it a couple of days ago. scratching my head over the prince and black uhuru songs though! nicely surprised (as an aussie) to find the limp and slugfuckers.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link

How in the hell do I get this stuff you are making? Send me prices and any info you got. I have to have this stuff.

Max

Max Murdoc, Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Mully---

The Black Uhuru I wasn't sure about and didn't initially include, because while it's great, it definitely seems to me to basically be straight reggae, as opposed to reggae-inflected post-punk. Still, a few people suggested I include it, so once I found room, I figured why not.

I included the Prince because even though he's usually considered to have more to do with "proper" funk and pop, the sonic connection seems obvious to me (though it does risk begging the question, why not just include a lot of other supposedly "straight" funk. . .). The sound of prince in that era is right between Worrell and Human League, so it makes sense to me.

Glad you dig it : )


Max ---

drop me a line at the email below and I'll put you on the waiting list.

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Just posting to say that if you recieved the mailing dated 18 March notifying you that a copy was available for you, and have not as yet contacted me

Arrgh - didn't think I need to contact you. Will sort out my PayPal thing tonight. Sorry - personal life got in the way.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 29 April 2005 07:28 (eighteen years ago) link

the black uhuru does fit strangely ian. it - and more importantly for me the earlier sensimilla - were big NME records of the time. and for me - floppy fringed orange juice fan back then - evoke memories of walking into a small specialist reggae shop crowded with rastas who seemed 7 foot tall for my first reggae purchase (unless you count the copy of kaya i bought fer me sisters birthday 4 years earlier)

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 29 April 2005 08:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i never discovered prince for a couple of years.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 29 April 2005 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Wouild like to add to the chorus of approval, great stuff, you have set a standard

mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 10:21 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Just a quick note that this easily made my 2005 Top 10. I.M., thank you again.

mike a, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah!

p.s. Does the bad brains track really cut short like that?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link


is the guy who's making/ made this doing 1982, 9183 and 1984. i'd die happy i think if he does.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Mike A --

Thanks, man. Copies straggled out as early as Nov. 2004, but most were in 2005. With any luck, someday in 2006 there'll be more. I've still got the list--but it's grown to over 250 names, and besides being too busy and too poor to get out ahead on material costs, I just got a little daunted.

Mark --

Not sure I know what you mean. Hopefully there wasn't a defect in the pressing. I doubt I would've edited a Bad Brains track. . .

Piscesboy --

I had plans to do 1982 or 1979, but real life caught up with me. I think a fellow here started up a 1979, but I think real life caught up with him, too. I've been sitting on a 3rd edition of '81 that's got 460 bands, 480 tracks, but haven't been able to do anything with it. If you do a search for "soundslike1981" on myspace.com, you might come across the smaller mixes I post there.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha "pressing"--you know what I meant.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

This placed on my albums list for Pazz/Jop.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

1982! 1982!

piscesboy, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Goddamn. I missed this the first time around. Is there a way to get ahold of it now? (Feel free to email me payment details...)

js (honestengine), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
It would be great if I.M., if he's still around, could post his actual tracklist somewhere, especially if he's not producing copies. The links at the top of this thread are all dead.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, wonderful box. It's in my car.

I'm not typing in the contents here tho.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Found it myself on the interwebs, after a bit of searching: http://www.woebot.com/images/dsns/1981.txt

pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.woebot.com/images/dsns/no_parlez.jpg
.. just like when it got released!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link

The box sits in a prominent place in the kitchen and i walk past it every day and nod. and listen to it sometimes. thanks again IM.

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Dug this box up again for my travels this week.

It's still the finest box set based around the music of 1981 ever!

Mark G, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder if I.M. ever hangs around this place anymore...I've corresponded with him a few times on email about a month ago (I went crazy over Diagram Brothers, and he's like the only person I know who is into them), but that's it. Actually there was someone on the recent XTC thread that made me think it might be him but it was a different screen name...*shrugs*

Bimble, Saturday, 31 March 2007 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Needs more Oi!

This track listing is very good though, I can't think of much I'd add to it.

Apart from maybe Razors In The Night by Blitz.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 31 March 2007 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

spotify playlist please

cozen, Sunday, 29 September 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

This thread is one of the "most read", don't you know?

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/1979_ice.jpg

Coming soon. . .

Soundslike, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

Oh hello.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

*drools*

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 31 August 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link

The year of my birth! Excited for this.

tylerw, Thursday, 31 August 2017 02:11 (six years ago) link

Then it turns out it's a headfake and it's 366 bad bootleg remixes of a certain Smashing Pumpkins song.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 August 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link

ooh (bookmarks thread)

Mark G, Thursday, 31 August 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link

Alright, it's all done I think. Slightly smaller affair--seven mixes, no 'briefcase'. But given that at 37 I didn't have the months I had when I was 23 and made '1981' to search out and buy scores of records, cull and re-cull, sequence twenty ways for each mix, and go in and hand-remove every little dust pop, it's been a lot of fun to revisit this music I haven't really listened to as much over the last decade. I hope the results will be enjoyed.

Actually, I had made a 3-disc '1979' back in 2002/2003, before '1981,' only made about five copies I think. I found the old tracklist and realized I selected a lot of the same tracks this time!

I'm going to spend a little more time with it making sure everything is working, and hope to have it up soon. Hope when it's up folks will spread the word.

Soundslike, Friday, 1 September 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link

Looking forward for sure.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 September 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/folder1.jpg

Soundslike, Friday, 1 September 2017 03:35 (six years ago) link

Want

jjjusten, Friday, 1 September 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

Want

jjjusten, Friday, 1 September 2017 03:56 (six years ago) link

Here's the final artist list:


A Certain Ratio · Adam & The Ants · Alternative TV · Animals & Men · Au Pairs · Bauhaus · The Blackouts · Blondie · The Boys Next Door · The B-52's · The Beat · David Bowie · British Standard Unit · Buzzcocks · Cabaret Voltaire · James Chance & The Contortions · Chrisma · Chrome · The Clash · Comsat Angels · Elvis Costello & The Attractions · The Cramps · Crass · Cult Hero · The Cure · Holger Czukay · The dB's · Delta 5 · Devo · Door & The Window · The Durutti Column · Echo & The Bunnymen · The Embarrassment · Essendon Airport · Essential Logic · Fad Gadget · Marianne Faithful · The Fall · Family Fodder · The Feelies · The Flying Lizards · John Foxx · Frank Sumatra · Gang of Four · Gina X Performance · Glaxo Babies · Half Japanese · The Homosexuals · The Human League · Richard Hell & The Voidoids · Industry · Joe Jackson · The Jam · Japan · Josef K · Joy Division · Killing Joke · L Voag · Lizard · M · Magazine · Material · Lizzy Mercier Descloux · Monochrome Set · Anthony Moore · Martha & The Muffins · The Mekons · Metal Urbain · Mo-Dettes · New Musik · Noh Mercy · Gary Numan · The Only Ones · Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark · P-Model · Pere Ubu · Plastics · Iggy Pop · The Pop Group · Pylon · The Raincoats · Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers · Rosa Yemen · Scritti Politti · The Selecter · Simple Minds · Siouxsie & The Banshees · The Slits · Patti Smith Group · The Soft Boys · The Sound · The Specials · Spherical Objects · Squeeze · The Static · Walter Stedding · Suicide · Swell Maps · Talking Heads · The Teardrop Explodes · Theoretical Girls · This Heat · Throbbing Gristle · Urinals · Vice Versa · Voigt 465 · Wipers · Wire · XTC · The Years · Yellow Magic Orchestra · Young Marble Giants

Soundslike, Saturday, 2 September 2017 05:38 (six years ago) link

Omfg

the underground is pass-agg (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 2 September 2017 07:48 (six years ago) link

Ok everyone--sorry it took a while (13 years. . .) but the follow-up to the '1981' box is finally done: the '1979: Post-Punk' digital box set, with seven tightly themed mixes, 112 artists, and just over eight hours of post-punk's best as it really got going. It's up for streaming or download, along with a one-hour "sampler" mix for the post-punk-curious to get hooked by. ILMers really addicted me to the mix-making thing, because it was such a joy to think of helping such passionate music people revisit old favorites or find new ones. I've been doing my Musicophilia mix blog for nine years now, and it's been a lot of fun.

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/1979.gif?w=624&h=624&zoom=2

And you can download or stream it here at Musicophilia. Thank you!

Soundslike, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link

And here's the tracklist:


1979 | Box Set Sampler

01 [00:00] A Certain Ratio - “Do the Du (BBC)” (BBC - ‘Early’ compilation)
02 [02:40] The Pop Group - “Thief of Fire” (‘Y’)
03 [07:14] Talking Heads - “I Zimbra” (‘Fear of Music’)
04 [10:22] Gang of Four - “Damaged Goods” (‘Entertainment!’)
05 [13:46] The Slits - “Love und Romance” (‘Cut’)
06 [16:11] This Heat - “Horizontal Hold” (‘This Heat’)
07 [23:02] Scritti Politti - “Double Beat” (“4 ‘A Sides’” EP)
08 [26:43] Josef K - “Chance Meeting (Early)” (Unreleased - ‘Young & Stupid’ compilation)
09 [29:36] Wipers - “Is This Real?” (‘Is This Real?’)
10 [32:12] The Raincoats - “No Side to Fall In” (‘The Raincoats’)
11 [34:00] Yellow Magic Orchestra - “Technopolis” (‘Solid State Survivor’)
12 [38:15] Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - “Almost” (“Electricity” single)
13 [42:00] Blondie - “Dreaming” (‘Eat To the Beat’)
14 [45:02] The Cure - “Boys Don’t Cry” (“Boys Don’t Cry” single)
15 [47:39] Japan - “Alien” (‘Quiet Life’)
16 [52:36] Joy Division - “24 Hours (BBC)” (BBC - ‘Peel Sessions’ compilation)
17 [56:43] Wire - “40 Versions” (‘154’)

[Total Time: 1:00:07]

1979 | Fire

01 [00:00] A Certain Ratio - “Do the Du” (BBC - ‘Early’ compilation)
02 [02:38] David Bowie - “African Night Flight” (‘Lodger’)
03 [05:25] Material - “Process/Motion” (“Temporary Music 1” EP)
04 [09:55] The Durutti Column - “Sketch for Summer” (‘The Return Of’)
05 [12:50] The Selecter - “The Selecter” (“The Selecter” single)
06 [15:46] LIzzy Mercier Descloux - “Fire” (‘Press Color’)
07 [20:54] Holger Czukay - “Cool In the Pool” (‘Movies’)
08 [25:56] The Flying Lizards - “Her Story” (‘The Flying Lizards’)
09 [30:27] The Pop Group - “Thief of Fire” (‘Y’)
10 [35:02] Lizard - “T.V. Magic” (‘Lizard’)
11 [38:19] Industry - “Ready For the Wave” (“Industry” EP)
12 [42:02] Blondie - “Atomic” (‘Eat To the Beat’)
13 [46:36] James Chance & The Contortions - “Designed to Kill” (‘Buy’)
14 [49:20] Gary Numan - “Random” (Unreleased - ‘78/79’ compilation)
15 [53:01] Joy Division - “Love Will Tear Us Apart” (BBC - ‘Peel Sessions’ compilation)
16 [56:21] The B-52’s- “Dance This Mess Around” (‘The B’-52’s’)
17 [60:54] The Beat - “Tears of a Clown” (“Tears of a Clown” single)
18 [63:30] Talking Heads - “I Zimbra” (‘Fear of Music’)
19 [66:39] Japan - “Quiet Life” (‘Quiet Life’)

[Total Time: 1:11:29]

1979 | Amplifier

01 [00:00] Gang of Four - “Damaged Goods” (‘Entertainment!’)
02 [03:25] Iggy Pop - “I’m Bored” (‘New Values’)
03 [06:07] Glaxo Babies - “This Is Your Life” (“This Is Your Life” EP)
04 [09:08] Buzzcocks - “You Say You Don’t Love Me” (‘A Different Kind of Tension’)
05 [11:58] The Cure - “10:15 Saturday Night” (‘Three Imaginary Boys’)
06 [15:37] Pylon - “Cool” (“Cool” single)
07 [18:56] The Blackouts - “Make No Mistake” (“528 Seconds” single)
08 [23:27] The Clash - “The Guns of Brixton” (‘London Calling’)
09 [26:31] Rosa Yemen - “Larousse Baron Bic” (“Rosa Yemen” EP)
10 [28:03] Wipers - “Mystery” (‘Is This Real?’)
11 [29:49] Crass - “Mother Earth” (‘Stations Of the Crass’)
12 [33:58] Wire - “The 15th” (‘154’)
13 [37:01] The Boys Next Door - “After A Fashion” (‘Door, Door’)
14 [41:36] Comsat Angels - “Independence Day” (BBC - ‘Time Considered...’ compilation)
15 [44:54] The Sound - “Deep Breath” (Unrelased - ‘Propaganda’ compilation)
16 [47:36] The Fall - “Dice Man” (‘Dragnet’)
17 [49:19] The Raincoats - “Fairytale in the Supermarket” (‘The Raincoats’)
18 [52:17] The Cramps - “Human Fly” (“Gravest Hits” EP)
19 [54:26] The Mekons - “Like Spoons No More” (‘The Quality of Mercy Is Not Strnen’)
20 [56:31] Au Pairs - “You” (“You” single)
21 [59:21] The Embarrassment - “After The Disco” (Unreleased - ‘Heyday’ compilation)
22 [62:54] Noh Mercy - “My Wild Love” (Unreleased - ‘Nōh Mercy’ compilation)
23 [65:39] The Soft Boys - “Do The Chisel” (‘A Can of Bees’)
24 [68:42] The Slits - “Love und Romance” (‘Cut’)

[Total Time: 1:11:08]

1979 | Brain

01 [00:00] This Heat - “Horizontal Hold” (‘This Heat’)
02 [06:50] Alternative TV - “Facing Up to the Facts” (‘Vibing Up the Senile Man’)
03 [10:37] The Static - “Don’t Let Me Stop You” (“Theoretical Record” single)
04 [15:45] Talking Heads - “Drugs” (‘Fear of Music’)
05 [20:49] Siouxsie & The Banshees - “Playground Twist” (‘Join Hands’)
06 [23:45] Frank Sumatra - “The Story So Far” (“Te Deum” EP)
07 [27:23] Public Image Limited - “Poptones” (‘Metal Box’)
08 [35:08] Joy Division - “She’s Lost Control” (BBC - ‘Peel Sessions’ compilation)
09 [39:18] Hector Zazou - “5’. . . Et Quelque De Bonheur. . .” (‘La Perversita’)
10 [44:53] Scritti Politti - “Double Beat” (“4 ‘A Sides’” EP)
11 [48:33] Pere Ubu - “One Less Worry” (‘New Picnic Time’)
12 [52:20] Gang of Four - “Natural’s Not In It” (‘Entertainment!’)
13 [55:24] Art Bears - “The Summer Wheel” (‘Broken English’)
14 [58:02] The Pop Group - “We Are Time” (‘Y’)
15 [64:29] XTC - “Complicated Game” (‘Drums & Wires’)

[Total Time: 1:09:17]

1979 | Cassette

01 [00:00] Scritti Politti - “Messthetics” (“Work In Progress 2nd Peel Session” EP)
02 [01:42] Metal Urbain - “Hysterie Connective” (“Hysterie Connective” single)
03 [04:49] The Feelies - “Fa Ce La” (“Raised Eyebrows” single)
04 [07:03] Walter Stedding - “Landing” (“Get Ready” EP)
05 [08:27] Echo & The Bunnymen - “Read It In Books” (“The Pictures On My Wall” single)
06 [11:22] Theoretical Girls - “Theoretical Girls” (Unreleased - ‘Theoretical Girls’ compilation)
07 [14:14] Voigt 465 - “P” (‘Slights Unspoken’)
08 [15:17] L Voag - “Kitchen” (‘The Way Out’)
09 [17:35] Animals & Men - “Don’t Misbehave In the New Age” (“Don’t Misbehave...” single)
10 [19:37] The Years - “Come Dancing” (“Come Dancing” single)
11 [23:16] Chrome - “Critical Mass” (‘Half Machine Lip Moves’)
12 [25:11] Family Fodder - “Sunday Girl #1” (“Sunday Girls” EP)
13 [27:55] Monochrome Set - “The Monchrome Set” (“The Monchrome Set” single)
14 [33:07] Cult Hero - “I’m A Cult Hero” (“I’m A Cult Hero” single)
15 [36:00] Mo-Dettes - “White Mice” (“White Mice” single)
16 [39:34] Door & The Window - “Dig” (“Production Line” EP)
17 [41:41] Swell Maps - “Midget Submarines” (‘A Trip to Marineville’)
18 [46:14] Josef K - “Chance Meeting” (Unreleased - ‘Young & Stupid’ compilation)
19 [49:07] Cabaret Voltaire - “Silent Command” (‘Mix-Up’)
20 [52:29] Wipers - “Is This Real?” (‘Is This Real?’)
21 [55:06] 1/2 Japanese - “She Cracked” (‘1/2 Gentlemen / Not Beasts’ cassette)
22 [57:00] Urinals - “Hologram” (“The Urinals” EP)
23 [59:08] British Standard Unit - “D’Ya Think I’m Sexy” (‘Hybrid Kids’ compilation)
24 [61:31] The Homosexuals - “Astral Glamour” (Unreleased - ‘The Homosexuals’ Record’ compilation)
25 [63:21] The Fall - “Industrial Estate” (‘Live At The Witch Trials’)
26 [65:15] Spherical Objects - “I Don’t Remember” (‘Eliptical Optimism’)
27 [66:38] The Cure - “Grinding Halt” (‘Three Imaginary Boys’)
28 [69:25] The Raincoats - “No Side to Fall In” (‘The Raincoats’)
29 [71:11] Young Marble Giants - “Brand-New Life” (‘Collossal Youth’ cassette)

[Total Time: 1:14:05]

1979 | Computer

01 [00:00] Fad Gadget - “Back To Nature” (“Back To Nature” single)
02 [05:43] Yellow Magic Orchestra - “Technopolis” (‘Solid State Survivor’)
03 [09:56] John Foxx - “Metal Beat” (“A New Kind of Man” unreleased single)
04 [12:52] Throbbing Gristle - “Hot On the Heels of Love” (‘20 Jazz Funk Greats’)
05 [17:07] Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - “Almost” (“Electricity” single)
06 [20:55] P-Model - “Kameari Pop” (‘In A Model Room’)
07 [24:47] Gina X Performance - “Nice Mover” (“No G.D.M.” single)
08 [29:12] M - “Pop Muzik” (‘New York, London, Paris, Munich’)
09 [34:07] Devo - “Strange Pursuit” (‘Duty Now For the Future’)
10 [36:50] Gary Numan - “We Have a Technical” (Unreleased - ‘78/79’ compilation)
11 [44:46] Vice Versa - “New Girls Neutron” (“Music 4” EP)
12 [46:48] Plastics - “Robot” (“Copy” single)
13 [49:41] Simple Minds - “Real to Real” (‘Real To Real Cacophony’)
14 [52:27] The Human League - “Blind Youth” (‘Reproduction’)
15 [55:41] New Musik - “On Islands” (“Straight Lines” single)
16 [60:05] Suicide - “Dream Baby Dream” (“Dream Baby Dream” single)

[Total Time: 1:06:28]

1979 | Convertible

01 [00:00] Blondie - “Dreaming” (‘Eat To the Beat’)
02 [03:04] Joe Jackson - “One More Time” (‘Look Sharp!’)
03 [06:20] Patti Smith Group - “Frederick” (‘Wave’)
04 [09:23] The Selecter - “On My Radio” (“On My Radio” single)
05 [12:26] Martha & The Muffins - “Insect Love” (“Insect Love” single)
06 [16:33] Elvis Costello & The Attractions - “Green Shirt” (‘Armed Forces’)
07 [19:14] The Feelies - “Raised Eyebrows” (“Raised Eyebrows” single)
08 [22:14] The Cure - “Boys Don’t Cry” (“Boys Don’t Cry” single)
09 [24:51] The Teardrop Explodes - “Sleeping Gas” (“Sleeping Gas” single)
10 [28:31] Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers - “Affection” (‘Back In Your LIfe’)
11 [32:38] XTC - “Making Plans for Nigel” (‘Drums & Wires’)
12 [36:47] Devo - “The Day My Baby Gave Me A Surprise” (‘Duty Now For the Future’)
13 [39:24] Essential Logic - “World Friction” (‘Beat Rhythm News Waddle Ya Play?’)
14 [42:55] The Specials - “A Message To You Rudy” (‘Specials’)
15 [45:42] Squeeze - “Goodbye Girl” (‘Cool For Cats’)
16 [48:36] Talking Heads - “Heaven” (‘Fear of Music’)
17 [52:39] The Jam - “Strange Town” (‘Setting Sons’)
18 [56:26] The Only Ones - “Flaming Torch” (‘Even Serpents Shine’)
19 [58:43] A. More - “Judy Get Down” (‘Flying Doesn’t Help’)
20 [61:40] Richard Hell & The Voidoids - “Time” (Unreleased - ‘Time’ compilation)
21 [64:41] The dB’s - “Nothing Is Wrong” (Unreleased - ‘Ride the Wild TomTom’ compilation)

[Total Time: 1:08:45]

1979 | Ice

01 [00:00] Japan - “Alien” (‘Quiet Life’)
02 [04:56] Gang of Four - “He’d Send In the Army” (‘Entertainment!’)
03 [08:35] This Heat - “24-Track Loop” (‘This Heat’)
04 [14:27] Adam & The Ants - “Tabletalk” (‘Dirk Wears White Socks’)
05 [19:56] The Durutti Column - “Sleep Will Come” (‘The Return Of’)
06 [21:43] Delta 5 - “Now That You’re Gone” (“Mind Your Own Business” single)
07 [25:53] Pere Ubu - “Kingdom Come” (‘New Picnic Time’)
08 [29:02] Killing Joke - “Turn to Red” (“Turn to Red” EP)
09 [33:01] Bauhaus - “Bela Lugosi’s Dead” (“Bela Lugosi’s Dead” EP)
10 [42:36] Essendon Airport - “How Low Can You Go?” (“Sonic Investigations...” EP)
11 [45:55] Chrisma - “We R” (‘Hibernation’)
12 [49:37] Joy Division - “24 Hours” (BBC - ‘Peel Sessions’ compilation)
13 [53:44] Marianne Faithful - “Working Class Hero” (‘Broken English’)
14 [58:22] Magazine - “The Thin Air” (‘Secondhand Daylight’)
15 [62:29] Iggy Pop - “The Endless Sea” (‘New Values’)
16 [67:14] Wire - “40 Versions” (‘154’)

[Total Time: 1:10:40]

Soundslike, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 11:56 (six years ago) link

I'll chime in and say that I was given the chance to hear all this a few days early -- it's really wonderful.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

looks amazing -- excited to dig in.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

FUCK YES

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

wow!

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 08:48 (six years ago) link

Thrilled! Downloading! And later, listening!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 12:08 (six years ago) link

OK, yeah, this is great! I might have to go through and tag each track with the act, though, since I keep running back to the trackless to see what I'm listening to.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link

Ugh, track list.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link

Had a lovely break from 1907 listening to 1981 today, and going to have to find time next week to listen to 1979. Can I be cheeky and ask whether there is going to be a 'briefcase' for 1979 too?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

So I love listening to this/these as mixes, but is there an easy way/trick to break up and tag the tracks? My 1981 mixes seem to be track-to-track.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

well aware that the mix is a large part of the appeal here and that streaming services are missing all manner of these tracks but there's more there than you might expect and I was looking for an easy way to carry this around, so (with apologies) here's a spotify playlist, sans doubles:
https://open.spotify.com/user/forksclovetofu/playlist/0oTOCanI4oeuEks5xaPXoW

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

Glad you guys are digging it! The Dangerous Minds website picked it up (as they did with the '1981' digital "reissue") and it's getting a lot of listens--hopefully causing the sale of some records (or at least mp3s)!

Mfktz, are you the guy doing the Centuries of Sound mixes? Impressive project!

Soundslike, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

Josh in Chicago--I made the decision to go to mixed mp3s some time back because I had some guilt about the feeling that by uploading single mp3s in the age of single-song mp3 sales, I was taking money from artists rather than sending it their way. Single-file mixes seem more like a podcast or a DJ set, more obviously in honor of the music and not in theft. Also, I like that it gives me tighter control over the transitions and flow of the mix--these ones aren't truly "mixed" much, but I go into that more heavily mix by mix.

I've looked into ways of making mixed mp3s display artist name/song name info, like a cue sheet approach, and it basically appears there's really no successful cross-platform way to do that. Hence the tracklists with start times--so you can always find out what you like, when you like it.

But I've also tried to accommodate the fact of streaming via the MixCloud site--https://www.mixcloud.com/musicophilia/--and that also does tell you the artist/track name "live". So maybe that's a better option for you, if the mp3s are distracting from the music?

Soundslike, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

Ulysses, I have to admit I don't *love* reducing the mixes to a Spotify playlist (and missing tracks) given that I do have the aforementioned MixCloud option, which is streamable; and the mp3s, which are portable. I mean, these are mixes, not playlists or folders of tracks. . . But if it helps people get interested in the music, I guess it's OK. I just don't get the fixation generally with Spotify--why use Spotify, when the mixes are available whether your preference is streaming or downloading? But I'm old, and I still buy hundreds of CDs a year (though I keep them as mp3s I rip), and I don't use streaming services, so what do I know.

Soundslike, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

Oh and Mfktz, I doubt there will be a '1979: Post-Punk' briefcase, as my collection of post-punk from '79 doesn't go nearly as deep as from '81 (and maybe the genre doesn't go as deep). That said, the next mix that goes up on the blog is going to be several volumes of the 'Le Funk du Monde' focused on 1977-1980, that are going to be amazing. If I did a '1979' briefcase, it'd be a collection from all the non-post-punk music I love from the year. . .

Soundslike, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

I love the mixes as is! You obviously put a ton of work into them, which is why I'm ultimately cool with long tracks. They flooooow.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

Also, mixes as mixes make me pay attention.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

Josh, thanks for understanding. I really do wish there were a way to get the artists/tracks to show universally from a mixed mp3, but given there isn't I had to stick to the format anyway despite the inconveniences. And I agree--lack of the ability to hit "skip" has often gotten me to slow down and listen more carefully on mixes by others. Thanks!

Soundslike, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

Most of the time 2004 still feels recent to me, even though that span is a third of my life. But I guess putting this new "digital box set" next to the old physical box set of '1981' makes me realize a lot of time has passed--and even the mp3s of the new one are out-of-date to many. Hopefully the upside is that there's a whole generation who were 5 when the old box came out, who're primed to discover post-punk!

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/79vs81_011.jpg?w=800

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Soundslike, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

So did someone send back a copy of 1981 to you?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 September 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link

Soundslike- yes, I'm the Centuries of Sound guy. Can understand why you aren't doing the briefcase thing and why you don't want it on Spotify, but your site in general will still be very useful for me in five years or so, so just wanted to say thanks for that. Also really admire the design of your site, wish I had such skills.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 September 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

Speaking of forcing me to pay attention, I'm finally listening to Evensong this morning, and right off the bat I don't think I've ever heard of It's Immaterial. Lovely stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

and I was looking for an easy way to carry this around

the original is seven mp3s. they don't weigh much.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

hey soundslike: thanks again for putting this together; much of it's outside of my listening experience and i always appreciate new meat. i was four in '79 so don't judge too harshly.
to your points: the mp3s are portable but generally much more frustrating to add in or take out on the fly for portability, whereas streaming allows for listening and sharing and paring in a way that works well for me.
the fixation "generally with spotify" is just that it's a service i've used for several years and i've gotten accustomed to it. I didn't start this way! i had thousands of cds and cassettes and vinyl but moving a lot has made me focus more on immediate accessibility and cloud use.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

prob also noteworthy that i grew up without a solid radio station experience so it wasn't until after college that the idea of an unbreakable mix even came into view. i like the freedom to explore and repeat and skip tracks rather than drive at someone else's speed i suppose. it's a limitation on my part!

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

Oh my goodness I will be spending some time with these

paolo, Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

So did someone send back a copy of 1981 to you?

Yeah! My friend (in real life) A.M./Ettiem who is an ILMer send me a copy of the 1st edition pre-ILM. So cool of him!

Soundslike, Friday, 8 September 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

Haha very good!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 September 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

A q

Soundslike, Sunday, 15 April 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link

A quick reminder--the full '1981' box including the 'briefcase' has been up for a year for anybody who didn't get a physical copy back in 2005!

https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2017/04/04/post-punk-1981-complete-collection-including-the-briefcase/

And for those who did get one 13 years ago--we're old now! ; ) 1981 was 22 years in the past when I started the project. Which means there's some young person out there now making a '1996' box set!

There is literally an entire new listening generation out there since I made this box who get to discover post-punk/new wave--so pass it on!

Soundslike, Sunday, 15 April 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

And while I didn't ever really make the non-post-punk 1981 box--this set has a lot of great 1981 non-pp music, for those who might be interested:

https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2018/04/03/tribute-to-brian-eno-translucence/

And in addition to the '1979' follow-up set, there's annother post-punk box for those who might be interested, with a 1-hr sampler mix: 'Post-Punk 2007-2017'

https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/post-punk2007-2017/

Soundslike, Sunday, 15 April 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link

Sorry--having some tech difficulties with my phone. This is the set with non-pp 1981 music:

https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2017/11/14/le-monde-du-funk-1970-1985/

Soundslike, Sunday, 15 April 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link

Which means there's some young person out there now making a '1996' box set!
We can but pity them.

Jeff W, Sunday, 15 April 2018 14:05 (six years ago) link

Us kids don’t want your old fogie “new wave” music gramps. We like Post Malone and Silento

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 15 April 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

A project like this for the early/mid-’90s would actually be great (’96 is a bit past the curve).

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

Or I could just listen to my old CMJ samplers, I guess...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 15 April 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link

I was fortunate enough to get a physical copy back then. From time to time I glance at my shelf wondering when the CD-Rs will degrade and thinking I should rip them before they do (and while I still have something to rip them with!)

But now I don't have to rip them. Thanks!

fajita seas, Sunday, 15 April 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link


I was fortunate enough to get a physical copy back then. From time to time I glance at my shelf wondering when the CD-Rs will degrade and thinking I should rip them before they do (and while I still have something to rip them with!)

But now I don't have to rip them. Thanks!

― fajita seas, Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:15 PM

I've wondered, too, whether those CD-Rs still work after so many years! Supposedly they were the very best in blank white CDs at the time. . .

But glad I could save you the trouble of ripping! Hope you enjoy them anew (and the follow-up sets, too).

Soundslike, Sunday, 15 April 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

Coming January 1, with any luck. . .

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Soundslike, Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link

Dun dun dunnnnnn

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 December 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

👍🏼

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

Dun dun dun indeed!

Mark G, Sunday, 30 December 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

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POST PUNK 198O

The final link in a trilogy of post-punk/new wave box sets, following up on the original '1981' box set from 2004-2005, and the '1979' set from 2017. This is an eight-mix (all roughly C-90 in length) set covering the year I'd filed away as the breather between the huge statements of 1979 and the massive explosion of creativity of 1981. Turns out, it's just as strong, just as varied, just as exciting.

Featuring:

A Certain Ratio · Animals & Men · The Associates · Au Pairs · Bauhaus · The Beat · The Blackouts · Blondie · Blancmange · David Bowie · Bow Wow Wow · The Boys Next Door · Glenn Branca · The Breakers · Buggles · Buzzcocks · The Cars · Chris Carter · Alex Chilton · Chrome · Colored Minds · The Comsat Angels · Elvis Costello & The Attractions · The Cramps · The Cure · Dalek I · Delta 5 · Deutsch Amerikanische Freundshaftt · Devo · The Diagram Brothers · Din a Testbild · Doctor Mix & The Remix · Dome · Dow Jones & The Industrials · The Durutti Column · Essendon Airport · Factrix · Fad Gadget · Family Fodder · The Feelies · Final Program · Fire Engines · Flowers · Flying Lizard · Free Agents · Friction · John Foxx · Peter Gabriel · Gang of Four · Girls At Our Best · The Gist · The Go-Go’s · The Gordons · Half Japanese · The Human League · Husker Du · Ike Yard · Implog · Indoor LifeIn Camera · INXS · The Jam · Japan · Grace Jones · Josef K · Joy Division · Kid Creole & The Coconuts · Killing Joke · Krisma · Lizard · Ludus · Magazine · Manicured Noise · Marilyn · Martha & The Muffins · Material · Minutemen · Missing Persons · Mission of Burma · Mr. Partridge · Moderne · The Mo-Dettes · The Monchrome Set · Pauline Murray & The Invisible Girls · MX-80 Sound · Nasmak · Neonbabies · New Musik · Colin Newman · Gary Numan · Iggy Pop · The Only Ones · Orange Juice · Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark · Our Daughter’s Wedding · Pink Military · Pink Section · Plastics · Polyrock · Poly Styrene · The Pop Group · Pretenders · Prince · Psychedelic Furs · Pylon · Reptile Ranch · Martin Rev · Reversible Cords · Rinder & Lewis · The Room · Roxy Music · Ryuichi Sakamoto · The Selecter · Simple Minds · Siouxsie & The Banshees · The Slits · Smokey · Sods · Soft Cell · The Sound · The Specials · Squeeze · Richard Strange · The Stranglers · Swell Maps · Talking Heads · Teardrop Explodes · Television Personalities · Telex · This Heat · Tuxedomoon · Ultravox · Units · Urban Verbs · Les Vampyrettes · The Vapors · Alan Vega · Virgin Prunes · Visage · Scott WIlk & The Wall · Wipers · Xex · XTC · Yello · Y Pants · Yellow Magic Orchestra · Young Marble Giants

Download/stream here: https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2019/01/01/post-punk-1980-box-set/

Soundslike, Saturday, 26 January 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

If you want to check out just the tracklist, check it here.

Soundslike, Saturday, 26 January 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link

What, no "Effortless" by Athletico Spizz 80?

Just kidding (maybe).

Good work as ever, sir. And the colour scheme for this one is spot on - exactly how I felt about the music at the time. There was an awful lot of grey or silvery grey sleeve art around, mind, which didn't help.

Jeff W, Sunday, 27 January 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Not the full-on box-set treatment, I'm afraid, but here's as close as I've come to a follow-up for 1982:

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/musicophilia_00_various_-_joy-vol-2-post-punk_1982_cover-a-front.jpg?w=1024

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/musicophilia_00_various_-_joy-vol-2-post-punk_1982_cover-b-back.jpg?w=1024

'Joy! Volume 2: Post-Punk 1982'

01 [0:00:00] The Raincoats- “No One’s Little Girl” (‘Running Away’ 7″)
02 [0:04:30] Rip Rig & Panic- “You’re My Kind of Climate” (‘You’re My Kind…’ EP)
03 [0:10:20] African Head Charge – “High Protein Snack” (‘Environmental Studies’)
04 [0:13:40] Haircut 100 – “Favourite Shirt (Boy Meets Girl)” (‘Pelican West’)
05 [0:16:40] Family Fodder – “The Big Dig” (‘The Big Dig’ 7″)
06 [0:19:35] Our Daughter’s Wedding – “Buildings” (‘Moving Windows’)
07 [0:23:30] The Stick Men- “Personality Pollination” (‘This Is The Master Brew’)
08 [0:25:10] Pigbag – “Wiggling” (‘Dr. Heckle and Mister Jive’)
09 [0:30:15] Antena – “Camino del Sol” (‘Camino del Sol’ EP)
10 [0:33:55] Shriekback – “My Spine is the Bassline” (‘My Spine is the Bassline’ EP)

11 [0:37:55] Pylon – “Beep” (‘Beep’ 7″)
12 [0:41:15] Scritti Politti – “The Sweetest Girl” (‘Songs To Remember’)
13 [0:46:20] Sonic Youth – “The Burning Spear” (‘Sonic Youth’ EP)
14 [0:49:40] Delta 5 – “Powerlines” (‘Powerlines’ 7″)
15 [0:52:45] Maximum Joy – “Dancing On My Boomerang” (‘Station MXJY’)
16 [0:55:55] Weekend – “Summerdays” (‘La Verite’)
17 [0:58:45] R.E.M. – “1,000,000” (‘Chronic Town’ EP)
18 [1:01:50] Dog Eat Dog – “Rollover” (unreleased)
19 [1:04:45] Lora Logic – “Martian Man” (‘Pedigree Charm’)
20 [1:09:05] Tones On Tail – “Now We Lustre” (‘There’s Only One’ 7″)

21 [1:13:25] 48 Chairs – “Rhino Whip” (‘70% Paranoid’)
22 [1:17:10] Pere Ubu – “A Day Such As This” (‘Song of the Bailing Man’)
23 [1:20:45] Psychic TV – “Just Drifting” (‘Force The Hand’)
24 [1:24:25] ESG – “The Beat” (‘ESG Says Dance to the Beat of Moody’ EP)
25 [1:26:35] A Certain Ratio – “Touch” (‘I’d Like To See You Again’)
26 [1:31:35] The Gist – “Love At First Sight” (‘Embrace the Herd’)
27 [1:35:00] Special AKA & Rico – “Easter Island” (‘Jungle Music’ EP)
28 [1:39:05] Orange Juice – “L.O.V.E. Love” (‘You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever’)
29 [1:42:35] Yasuaki Shimizu – “Dots” (‘Kakashi’)
30 [1:45:30] Comsat Angels – “After the Rain” (‘Fiction’)

Download/stream here: https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2020/04/01/post-punk-1982/

Soundslike, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

The original '1981' set is back up--now in much better audio quality, but as mixed mp3s (not single tracks):

40 years since the post-punk of 1981, 17 years since I made '1981,' a definitive box-set of nine themed mixes spanning the canonized to the unknown. And it still sounds like tomorrow. https://t.co/ePWUOHce9K

Higher quality, as mixed mp3s. Dive in, share, and please BUY MUSIC! pic.twitter.com/ZM90ZOneY6

— Musicophilia (@musicophiliamix) January 5, 2021

Soundslike, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link

Thanks, just now re-tweeted!

dow, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

When I first shared these mixes on ILM, bith I and the music were a spritely 24 years old. Now we're both 40! But I think the music is aging (or not aging, really) far better than me. In that it hasn't aged a day, vs. I fell down my stairs a few weeks ago...

To celebrate 40 years since 1981, and over 17 since I started making the mixes, they're up in much higher quality here:

https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2021/01/04/1981-post-punk/

Soundslike, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:15 (two years ago) link

The original box still sits proudly with my other box sets.

Chris L, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:32 (two years ago) link

These are very much appreciated!

christopher.ivan, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:33 (two years ago) link

Still love these mixes, particularly the personality behind the songs that are picked. They're often either not my favorites or wouldn't have been my personal picks, but that's the whole point of mixes. It forces me to listen to these songs in a fresh context which in turn flavors how I hear them.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 July 2021 12:53 (two years ago) link

Thanks, all! I definitely often ended up picking tracks that weren't my favorites per se, but instead tracks that fit the vibe and flow of the mixes--so lead to some idiosyncratic choices. But always was the hope, and is now, that folks will hear things they didn't know, and hear those they already knew in a new context.

Soundslike, Friday, 30 July 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

WFMU's Give the Drummer Radio stream is doing a fun thing today -- all four of today's live shows are playing only music from 1981. Tony Coulter (on now and for ~15 more minutes) focusing on postpunk/industrial/experimental. 12 hours total.

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Tuesday, 28 December 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link


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