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I'd have to say Classic. It gets lots of flak because it was very 'in your face' and very sexual, and, more importantly, there were no real 'album' artists. But who cares? Some of the best songs of the 70s, and of alll time, came out of that era.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

There are going to be a lot of smarmy responses in this thread, but before all that starts, I'd like to say that yes, disco is classic.

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link

yep, classic, all of it - even the crap stuff.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, disco is classic.

and, more importantly, there were no real 'album' artists.

depends on your definition of "artist." but i'll let everyone else post the predictable dance-music-is-a-producer's-medium rhetoric.

stockholm cindy's secret world with martin bashir (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean i can post lots and lots and lots and lots of full-length disco LPs i love (that aren't just genre/label comps), but i'd be here all night.

stockholm cindy's secret world with martin bashir (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Some things can never be restated enough: Disco is Classic.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

disco is classic.

stockholm cindy's secret world with martin bashir (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

DISCO IS CLASSIC!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link

disco that sounds like "love hangover": CLASSIC!
disco that sounds like "disco duck": DUD!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 17 February 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

wrong, both are extremely classic

stockholm cindy's secret world with martin bashir (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.jahsonic.com/DiscoSucks.jpg

Tito JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link

nah, just kidding. DISCO IS CLASSIC!~!

Tito JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link

oh my god it's so CLASSIC!!

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Some of it is amazingly CLASSIC, but most isn't.
Kinda like most every other type o' music I've ever heard.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link

do you mean kiss disco lp "dynasty " ?

La Camilla Henemark, Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link

disco is fucking classic.

i just started reading the new chic book.

it's tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Disco is a total classic in every way.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

disco might be the only genre where even the terrible stuff is still great. therefore CLASSIC.

joseph (joseph), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread is silly. like anybody on ilm is going to risk looking rockist and say disco sucks. It is like somebody saying Kings of Leon are better than Britney's Greatest Hits...

Also, Chic made good albums.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link

i'll take Kings of Leon over Britney.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link

For every "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing,"

http://www.blueheaven.org.uk/bisc/sayer.jpg

there's a "Le Freak"

http://www.70disco.com/images/lefreak2.jpg

and "Get Down Tonight"

http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/%A5Artist%20GIF%20Images/KC-&-Sunshine-Band.jpg

and "TSOP."

http://moltof2.free.fr/ODV-990.jpg

QED.

ffirehorse, Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

ARE YOU SAYING YOU DON'T LIKE YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE DANCING!!!???

FUCKING FANTASTIC SONG!!!

Tito JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

My apologies .....

Perhaps we can agree on this?

http://www.comicgenius.com/DiscoFever/disco_profiles/rick_dees/images/disco_duck_album_cover.jpg

ffirehorse, Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link

And then there's this:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf900/f940/f94081fiwfn.jpg

which has lived in my CD player longer than anything not done by a Libertine (so far this year).

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link

stoopid HTML

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 17 February 2005 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to be so uptight about what disco I considered classic back in the 70s. Like it had to be either melodic and soulful or synth-heavy and" futuristic" or it sucked. What was wrong with me? Joseph is absolutely correct.

Guitarthur and the Ecstasy Defecators (Arthur), Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link

The first five seconds of the Trammps' "Disco Inferno" are possibly the most exciting first five seconds of any dance song going. The remaining 11:55 is just icing. Tasty, tasty icing.

More good LP-length disco acts: Machine, Hot Chocolate*, solo Moroder (well, anything Moroder)

*"disco" status debatable

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:34 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost It's Tricky, what's the Chic book you mentioned??

don, Thursday, 17 February 2005 06:44 (nineteen years ago) link

there were no real 'album' artists.

four words: Once Upon a Time

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001FEE.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 February 2005 08:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, commercially speaking most disco LPs were a non-starter and the record companies'refusal to market 12-inch singles in response to consumer demand led to the market crash of 1979 and eventually the death of vinyl itself...
But AESTHETICALLY speaking we all know there are many great disco albums, starting with Donna, Chic and Cerrone's Supernature.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Thursday, 17 February 2005 11:07 (nineteen years ago) link

This is so weird, I've been listening to a lot of disco lately and I was driving round thinking about it while listening to it, and i thought to myself I wonder if ilx cares much for disco. And i thought, nah they probably all think it's shit because it's kind of shallow and meaningless, so it's quite nice to be proven wrong. Some of my favorite songs are disco hits.

I Don't Know If It's Right but Evelyn King is a fucking awesome song and how can anyone deny the brilliance of sister sledge's (I wonder why) He's The Greatest Dancer?

kate/papa november (papa november), Thursday, 17 February 2005 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Been indulging in some Evelyn "Champagne" King myself lately.
"Babyoumakemy LOVE COME DOWN. Ooh you make my LOVE...COME DOWN."

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Thursday, 17 February 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

that song is filthy :-)

stockholm cindy's secret world with martin bashir (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi,


Disco is classic, in my opinion

Intro

http://www.jahsonic.com/Disco.jpg

Although disco was the most prominent form of popular music in the 1970s, it never got the credit it deserves as a serious musical genre. These pages aim to set that straight.

Scorned and ridiculed as feather-lite, escapist pap when it emerged in the mid-seventies, and now reduced to a kitsch scenario of Afro wigs, polyester suits and drunken singalongs at office Christmas parties and bachelor weekends, disco is just about the last place anyone would look for avant garde practice. [...] --Peter Shapiro, The Wire Magazine, Feb 2003.

Jan

Guest, Thursday, 17 February 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

this is the chic book

first impressions are not good

you know when it's cold and the buildings look all crisp in the night air? like , Thursday, 17 February 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, that book. I think that's the one somebody was warning me about, although they didn't make it clear it was based around Behind The Music of Chic, blah blah (but maybe I'l try a used copy) A lot of people have highly praised Tim Lawrence's LOVE SAVES THE DAY, a history of NY disco/dance from 70-79, I think, and also Mel Cheren's KEEP ON DANCIN': MY LIFE AT THE PARADISE GARAGE (titles may not be quite verbatim but authors' names are). Also, Tim helped revive the career of disco pioneer Nicky Siano, whose excellent comp of early music-that-got-played-in-discos (although he doesn't like the label "disco") I reviewed at villagevoice.com recently. The new MUTANT DISCO #3: GARAGE SALE is mostly too true to its title, but 2-3 good tracks if you see it in the Used. But Ze's also got another comp (blanking on the title) of all covers, and that's better, although still uneven (and transitioning out of the disco-per-se era, like the MUTANT series). Their Cristina reissues (which yall prob know about, but just in case) are improvements on LP sound quality and good bonus tracks; I prefer August Darnell's production (mainly on the first) to Was Not Was predom on second. Also DISCO NOT DISCO and DISCO NOT DISCO 2, but Dan Selzer says that label (Strut) has bit the dust. Wonder if Midnight Rhythm's self-titled ever came out on CD, and if they ever did another?

don, Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

The Loft box sets, my man, are IT.

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link

My brother got me a "Disco Handbook" from 1979 for my recent birthday. It was written at the peak of disco, and contains all these tips on how to dance, how to dress, how to speak at a disco, etc. It's also names the stereotypical people you'd see at the disco, and I think one of them was called "Ronnie Rockist" or something like that.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

how do you speak at a disco?

stockholm cindy's secret world with martin bashir (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

What is "Ronnie Rockist" like???

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll fill you in when I get home tonight. There was a whole paragraph about him.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm wondering if Disco is finally dead. Is there any really "relevant" or "innovative" music being made today that's part of a disco-continuum? It seems like grime has wiped out any vestiges of disco in UK Garage, and in the US, we've got what - LCD Soundsystem - with a ironic-macho-retro-electro take on it?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

but Spencer why does it have to be "relevant" or "innovative". Aren't those ROCKIST concepts? (insert winky)

Surely there is new deep house stuff coming out all the time, right? Even if it isn't hip on ILM. It's like that one Reynolds article from a few years back (it might surprise some to hear that I read the man, but I do)(I just disagree with him vehemently about tons of stuff)(except for the awesomeness of the Doors and Jefferson Airplane of course) where he details the deep house scene in NYC, and basically poo-poos their little retro 'let's-recreate-the-paradise-garage' scene. I mean, where is the harm in it? People are going out having a good time, dancing, to this functional music, much of which is new and continues to be created. I have a buddy who is a deep house dj here in chicago -- who plays tons of the stuff with the dreaded *real instruments*, guitar solos, piano solos, the whole jazzy nine yards -- and while I don't LOVE that music, every time I've gone out to hear him spin I can enjoy myself and every one else seems to as well. It IS a total Yupster scene, there's no doubt about it. But at the same time, you know, it EXISTS. Whether the hipoisie care or not.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there any really "relevant" or "innovative" music being made today that's part of a disco-continuum?

i am going to be contentious and say justus köhncke. also metro area/environ. lcd ss came to my mind too, but they strike me more as outsiders looking in at the continuum.

i enjoyed love saves the day even though it was a bit dry and analytical at times, but i will say that its seriousness is also its upside. to me it's a must-read because of the level of detail and because it has lengthy interviews with and commentary on mancuso, grasco, siano...all of the early djs. it was a totally eye opening read into a subculture i knew and glorified from afar. knowing the details makes it even better.

xpost w/stormy

you know when it's cold and the buildings look all crisp in the night air? like , Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200408/r27505_68255.jpg

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

xxpost:
I don't mind retreads at all, and I listen to old stuff all the time, but I'm mainly talking about a cultural moment where there's no innovative disco culture. Doesn't mean new deep house stuff, or new garridge or broken beat or whatever isn't amazing, I'm just lamenting the fact that there's nothing really new to excite us in a "hey, what's this crazy new sh*t???" kind of way. Everythings gone very macho - there's nothing really unabashed anymore.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

it's underground not underwater but if that's the analogy to use then let it drown imo

xpost

you know when it's cold and the buildings look all crisp in the night air? (disc, Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Sister Sledge's Thinking Of You is one of my
all-time favorite songs.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Thursday, 17 February 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

wow, who wrote the disco handbook? i need a copy of that more than i need a new bottle of ARAMIS aftershave. i love disco about as much as i love my mum.

Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 17 February 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

It's by Bruce Pollack. It really is an amazing book as a period piece.

There's a glossary of terms you'd hear at a disco ("HEAVY: A person who tries to start a serious conversation at a disco,") a "discourse" chapter where he discusses why young people like disco instead of rock, a history of disco that ends with "not bad for something that originated in France," a chapter on Disco fashion ("Lycra-Spandex, it's futuristic and form-fitting - now all you need are stylish knee pads,") how to feel at home while dancing ("success at the disco is largely a matter of kinetic energy. There'll be plenty of time for hanky panky when you reach the mandatory disco retirement age of 38,") and how to start a DIY disco party.

Spencer: "Ralph Rocker - He is really terrified that disco will someday replace rock and roll, and he'll have to shower, shave, and become the regular person he was back in 1968, when he dropped out of kindergarten to drive a truck."

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I like to sprinkle a little disco on my cereal. I don't need or crave it as a main course, but a little of it here and there, the really really good stuff...

I spent most of my life thinking Sister Sledge records would probably be the most boring idea ever. HA! BOY was I wrong! It is a sin against mankind that "Love Somebody Today" cannot be bought on CD.

And yes, "Thinking Of You" is an especially good one of theirs.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 18 February 2005 09:32 (nineteen years ago) link

"not bad for something that originated in France"- ha ha hahahaa.

another vote for classic.

TayBridgeCatastrophe (TayBridge), Friday, 18 February 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Michael that is awesome!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Disco ClassWAR!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Shit things that Disco made Classic:

Cocaine
John Travolta
Man-made fibres

There is Nothing that Disco cannot do.

Speedhump Bungle (noodle vague), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Disco in a club or at a party = classic
Disco during a road trip = dud

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, a lot of the long dubby Levan type mixes are great on road trips. Also Patrick Cowley stuff is awesome for driving.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

There are used copies of the Disco Handbook available at amazon for cheap -- I may have to check this out.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

speaking of Amazon, those Loft mixes (mentioned above) were bloody xspensiv, last time I checked! (But also l.t.I.c., some good prices on Larry Levan mixes.)

don, Friday, 18 February 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

this reminds me how badly i want to hear "more more more"
right now.

reo, Saturday, 19 February 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I finally bought the 12-disc Disco Box the other day. I can't wait till it comes!

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Bruce Pollack's book isn't available for us UK peoples. *sad face*.
Can anyone save the future and arrange for a big box of Disco Handbooks to be sent across the Atlantic?

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 09:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Mostly dud, even though there were a few classic moments, such as Donna Summer's great "Bad Girls" album.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a glossary of terms you'd hear at a disco ("HEAVY: A person who tries to start a serious conversation at a disco,") a "discourse" chapter where he discusses why young people like disco instead of rock, a history of disco that ends with "not bad for something that originated in France," a chapter on Disco fashion ("Lycra-Spandex, it's futuristic and form-fitting - now all you need are stylish knee pads,") how to feel at home while dancing ("success at the disco is largely a matter of kinetic energy. There'll be plenty of time for hanky panky when you reach the mandatory disco retirement age of 38,") and how to start a DIY disco party.

Spencer: "Ralph Rocker - He is really terrified that disco will someday replace rock and roll, and he'll have to shower, shave, and become the regular person he was back in 1968, when he dropped out of kindergarten to drive a truck."

OMG

jody von oy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer, it's a couple of years old, but I think "The Hampster Dance" is relevant and innovative.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

I found this video on Youtube and it sounds similar to Chic's "Good Times". My question is, who borrowed (sampled) who?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb2DJc59JcU

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 13 July 2009 11:22 (fourteen years ago) link

xxpost:
I don't mind retreads at all, and I listen to old stuff all the time, but I'm mainly talking about a cultural moment where there's no innovative disco culture. Doesn't mean new deep house stuff, or new garridge or broken beat or whatever isn't amazing, I'm just lamenting the fact that there's nothing really new to excite us in a "hey, what's this crazy new sh*t???" kind of way. Everythings gone very macho - there's nothing really unabashed anymore.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:30 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I wonder if spencer still feels like this.

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 13 July 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

hey experts

I am away from my library and need my memory jogged. I remember a classic description of discotheque live mixing, a DJ using Robert Plant's moaning in the breakdown to "Whole Lotta Love" over another disco song to add tension...

does anyone remember the other disco song? (donna summer)? does anyone remember the DJ? (Larry Levan)? and does anyone remember the book this anecdote appears in? (Rap Attack? Can't Stop Won't Stop? Cut'n'mix?)

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

not giving you guys much I know, & appreciation in advance

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

In "Turn The Beat Around" Peter Schapiro describes Francis Grasso mixing the breakdowns of "Whole Lotta Love" and "I'm A Man" from the first Chicago album... not positive if that's the example you're thinking of, I'm sure "Whole Lotta Love" has been used by other DJs for similar mixes.

Gunderson, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

From Love Saves The Day by Tim Lawrence, p. 35, about early '70s Sanctuary DJ Francis Grasso: "The DJ's most famous permutation layered the Latin beats of Chicago's 'I'm A Man' over the erotic groans and vocal break of Led Zeppelin's 'Whole Lotta Love.'"

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

xp, obv

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

that's it precisely. I've never read either of those two books, but memory jogged, it was "I'm a man"

Lightening fast you guys, thanks

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder if spencer still feels like this.

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, July 13, 2009 6:29 AM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not if hes heard this nu ringtone cru anthem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dZqghXe5FY

butthurt (deej), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Damn you, Geir, for sabotaging an amazingly rare near-unanimous "C or D" thread!

New display name coming soon (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 07:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Mostly classic, even though there were a few dud moments, such as sides three of Donna Summer's great "Bad Girls" and "Once Upon a Time..." albums.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 08:03 (fourteen years ago) link

easy disco track id: "from east to the west, only you know me best"

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 12:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Milton, you might also want to check out DJ Harvey's Black Cock edit of The Winners' "Get Ready for the Future" (called "Get Ready") which also features Zep's "Whole Lotta Love" mixed into it.

beta blog, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

will check it out, thanks. mostly trying to reconstruct early sampling precedents right now. drew mentioned a classic Levan trick, fading Kendricks' "Date With The Rain" into Chaka Khan's "Clouds" -- anyone know if there are tapes of this? I have the Live at the Paradise Garage CD set, but that's mostly segued beatmatching, not too much active juxtaposition or trickery... I'm interested in any actual 70's documents of the more creative mixes

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder if spencer still feels like this.

I've been trying to get into "funky house" but despite reading a lot of skykicking, I'm not quite there yet.

Still lots of good dance music around, but no movement I'm currently excited about.

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 13 August 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I have the Live at the Paradise Garage CD set, but that's mostly segued beatmatching, not too much active juxtaposition or trickery... I'm interested in any actual 70's documents of the more creative mixes

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

huh? 'more creative' mixes? you get a mix with cher, german disco & jermaine jackson, what are u looking for exactly?

butthurt (deej), Thursday, 13 August 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Ok, exactly how is that sweeping stringy noise in disco songs used

(e.g. 21 seconds in here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g6bUe5MDRo )

I just can't put my finger on it (and it's definitely among the better sounds in music's history)

Well, I wrote some stuff and Kenny Loggins heard it, so, y'know... (EDB), Saturday, 15 August 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I have the Live at the Paradise Garage CD set, but that's mostly segued beatmatching, not too much active juxtaposition or trickery... I'm interested in any actual 70's documents of the more creative mixes

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

huh? 'more creative' mixes? you get a mix with cher, german disco & jermaine jackson, what are u looking for exactly?

― butthurt (deej), Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:40 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude look at his post, he's talking about the MIXING not the tracklist

heavin' flho (s1ocki), Saturday, 15 August 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah from all reports larry was more interested in song selection and thematic sets than technically sophisticated mixes. still i love that live album so much, even though some of the segues are abrupt or rough it's so exciting or uh "hot" as they used to say.

m coleman, Saturday, 15 August 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i dont understand the part where he says 'actual 70s documents of more creative mixes' about an actual 70s document that has lots of creative mixes

butthurt (deej), Saturday, 15 August 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

'mixes' in this case meaning 'the mixing'

butthurt (deej), Saturday, 15 August 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, thats how Djs spun back then ... its not like they were doing long house music style blends or something

butthurt (deej), Saturday, 15 August 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

don't get me wrong, that mix is a symphony and it takes creativity to find a seamless flow through so many different songs, didn't mean to sound dismissive, and I know that is more representative of what the cutting edge was than the occasional moment of proto-mashup juxtaposition. people were mainly interested in turning corners, and extending the breaks out (the other anecdote that sticks in my mind is Kraftwerk at a US disco in the 70's hearing the DJ put on 'Metal on Metal' and only about 6 minutes later realizing 'what's happening, our record is only 3 minutes long, how this is still going')

that being said, I'm just as interested in looking for those proto-mashup flareups because we know they were happening

Milton Parker, Sunday, 16 August 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link

also re: Francis Grasso, looks like the text most of the stories about him come from is the 1978 Albert Goldman book. Looks like Grasso started doing sets in 1968, disco before disco

http://ped111251.tripod.com/francis.htm

Milton Parker, Sunday, 16 August 2009 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link

this is myth-making

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 16 August 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

the second you take the mid-section of "I'm a Man" out of context and start adding stuff to it, I don't think 'disco before disco' is overstatement?

Another story is when (Levan) first played the Peech Boys' "Life is something special". He teased everyone by playing bits and pieces of it mixed into other records throughout the whole evening until he finally decided to play the whole thing. But a "standard" Levan mix would usually last for some 15-20 minutes with added extracts of other songs and sound effects. - http://www.disco-disco.com/tributes/larry.shtml

^^ this description is what I'm on the hunt for

Milton Parker, Sunday, 16 August 2009 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link

though it is possible that because I'm ignorant of the source materials, I can't hear the number of layers going on in the mixes I've heard because they're so seamless

Milton Parker, Sunday, 16 August 2009 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZceQEwJwYrA&feature=related

no-fi recording, but you can hear him slipcueing -- hard entrances on each new song, not much in the way of crossfades, but right on the downbeat, so it doesn't even matter when the bpm changes slightly, the beat just keeps going

rented the DVD of 'Klute' tonight to see this, there's a 1971 documentary on the making of the film with wider shots of the Sanctuary that give you a better sense of what the room was really like, I love that it was converted over from a cathedral

Milton Parker, Sunday, 16 August 2009 09:57 (fourteen years ago) link

more a church than a cathedral, but the sanctuary site is still there on w.43rd street. it's been a theatre for quite awhile now. in the early 2000's I walked past almost every day on my way to work when "the vagina monologues" played there. dig that asymmetry/lol at the irony etc.

there was a heart-rending interview w/francis grasso in the new york times around 2003, just before he died. seemed like his life caught up w/him.

m coleman, Sunday, 16 August 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i need a track id, guys. a classic disco song i heard in a Daniel Wang set that goes "who do you love?! oh yes it's you, boy. i really should know. i thought i really should know. who do you love?! there was another. but now it's you, boy."

thanks!

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hi, Dan. It's THP Orchestra - Who Do You Love.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Disco is all kinds of amazing. The Full length disco albums thread on here got me into so many records that I now love that I'd never heard of. It's a shame so much is out of print though.

Tantra's Double Album anyone?

I think I have Number 1 In Heaven By Sparks to thank for getting me into disco.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

anyone know the name of this track? thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFXNJzwAe60

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 08:10 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

So can anyone recommend some good melancholic disco. Some times I'm just not in the mood for cheery uplifitingness, I need some top-notch weepy, emotional music that's still good to dance to.

On an unrelated note, ILM needs some of this, for reasons that I hope should be self-evident
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZulX2184A&feature=related

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Sunday, 11 April 2010 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh and durr, that's an instrumental version of Mascara - Baja. A truly excellent track at that.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Sunday, 11 April 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link

definitely one of the more inspired jürgen korduletsch productions.

, Sunday, 11 April 2010 08:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i find the three degrees "year of decision" as melancholy as I find "dirty ol' man" uplifting - but that may be just me.
obvious answer - Marvin Gaye - "here, my dear" (LP) which includes the discoliscious "funky space reincarnation" and some other, remorseful tunes with wah wah.

mully, Sunday, 11 April 2010 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

@EDB: Phyllis Hyman - Loving You, Losing You

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 11 April 2010 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I always liked uptempo Euro style disco, but it's been a quest to find it. Anyone know more stuff like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9SWr0NebxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihe4RTDwiwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvX78gKhv-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpHrKIOFPnw

Spectrum, Monday, 16 May 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

That Azoto track is massively different from the only track I heard by them before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDj5MwKpNrE

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 20 May 2011 08:14 (twelve years ago) link

Good stuff, always dug the Azoto tracks. I just stumbled on these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCS50QaH_j8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VbLB4UEFvw

Spectrum, Friday, 20 May 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui2V1n17x4I

mmmm, Saturday, 1 October 2011 08:29 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMaWR9-tuy0

mmmm, Saturday, 1 October 2011 08:30 (twelve years ago) link

Never tire of this double A side.

mmmm, Saturday, 1 October 2011 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

can you guys recommend some books about disco? preferably something pretty comprehensive, american-focussed, or some oral history. looking at buying "love saves the day" by tim lawrence right now, looks pretty good, have any of you read it or recommend something else? thx

flopson, Thursday, 8 November 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

Turn The Beat Around by Peter Shapiro is really good

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 8 November 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

The Disco Files 1973-1978, mainly composed of Vince Aletti's weekly disco columns for Record World, a trade magazine - all of them, in fact. Tons of inside dope from a scenester who knew what he was talking about. Has the advantage of the immediacy factor, having been written in the moment. Also works as a reference book, complete with hundreds of contemporary playlists from DJs nationwide.

Josefa, Thursday, 8 November 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 8 November 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

sounds perfect ty

flopson, Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link

Disco Files is great as a time capsule and as a source for obscure track recommendations but it doesn't really draw a narrative or fill out any background on the various characters that pass through the weekly reports. Love Saves the Day is probably my favourite music book ever so I'd definitely say pick that one up first.

Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Monday, 12 November 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

i would argue that Love Saves The Day imposes a narrative on the raw data presented in Disco Files. well that's a little too strong but LSTD views disco thru a (post) modern lens while DF simply reports what happened as it happened and gains a cumulative shape or forms a rough arc by the end. LSTD definitely fleshes out the personalities of the various characters and is easy/enjoyable to read VS pouring thru DF's myriad details.

bottom line: both great, read em in tandem for the full picture

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 12 November 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

'love saves the day' and 'disco files' are great. i honestly don't like 'turn the beat around' as much as those two but ppl rep for it really hard so maybe im just dumb for preferring LSTD

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

Definitely agree that DF and LTSD work well together and you shouldn't read *just* LSTD to get the full picture, but for me DF has too much "X is a new release by artist Y (who you may remember released Z last year) that has been picked up by DJ A from club B and it's a great 10-minute epic in a Donna Summer style" - an entire week's "file" can be made up of this kind of thing. I at least would have wanted more on the whos and whys if DF had been my entry point.

Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeah once you have the context DF becomes the more interesting book i think but if you're just trying to get a narrative start w/ LSTD

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

/shameless

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

Skimming this thread for some random listening this morning. That Bear Essense track, "The Big Hurt" is so amazing I had to hear it twice! Moroder-ish synths, huge string swells and a very dramatic, over-the-top, showtune-like vocal. It's like Shirley Bassey fronting the Alan Parsons project.

By the end of my second term, Gingrich said... (Dan Peterson), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

bottom line: both great, read em in tandem for the full picture

k cool will do this, w/ a heavy youtube supplement for primary sources

flopson, Monday, 12 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

calling all disco aficionados. I'm listening to a daniel wang mix and I wondered what's the song that goes "devil man, you make a devil woman out of me." and then there's an evil laugh sound or something. other lyrics include: "burns my body...corrupts the mind"

thanks!

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

research suggests that it is "devil woman" by fire and ice, available on this lalo schifrin-produced lp (and on a 12"): http://www.discogs.com/Fire-And-Ice-Fire-And-Ice/master/256361

you might confirm by listening to it at the end of this mix on youtube: http://youtu.be/RHVW2UR6mnU

i did listen to it and it sounded like a wangy track, but i didn't notice the lyrics or evil laugh sound you mention.

spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link

unfortunately that's not the one, but thanks a lot for the effort! you can hear the track here: http://www.mixesdb.com/w/2002-05-22_-_Daniel_Wang_@_The_Speakerteas,_Mazzo,_Amsterdam it's the first track.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 07:10 (eleven years ago) link

definitely not the one! this one, however, is it: http://www.discogs.com/Love-Connection-Hot-Blood-Hot-Nature-Woman/release/1162055

hear it here: http://youtu.be/o1O_chHIuWU

research skillz, bitch.

spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 07:34 (eleven years ago) link

oh yes, i realize i have listened to this set before. do you know the awesome instrumental party jam with the insistent synth riff coming in around 19:30? been after than one for a while...

spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 07:42 (eleven years ago) link

I gotta hand it to you, mate. what keywords did you use?

no, I don't know about that one, sorry.

on related note, why does daniel wang rarely keep the beats matched?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 08:50 (eleven years ago) link

I assume it's "hot blood?" I thought she sang "hot love"

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 09:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i think it's "hot blood". i frequently mistake the lyrics on these jams - for a long time i though madleen kane's "forbidden love" was "gorilla", lol.

in my disc-jocking experience it can be hard to match the beats on these records for a couple of reasons - A) a lot of the jams with live drums vary in tempo dramatically, so you have to ride the pitch control to keep things in time, and B) you can spend a lot of time deciding which jam to play next, and then when you do finally decide you are often in a rush to mix it in during the break of the previous song (cuz you're not dealing with identigroove house or techno records which blend seamlessly together regardless of when you mix in) and you don't have time to get the tempo sorted before bringing the next song up in the mix.

spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Lol that lyrics indeed sound like "gorilla".

Yeah I get what you mean because I've mixed some disco too but it's as if Daniel Wang doesn't bother to mix tightly. I've listened to unknown DJ's who mix disco way tighter than him, although Daniel obviously triumphs in selection and flow.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 8 February 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i think you are right - there are sacrifices made in the mixing dept in the interest of selection, flow, and having a good time. it's tough to party AND mix super tight all the time, haha!

spacemindy, Friday, 8 February 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

So I wanted to buy this track called "Takin a Chance On You" by Sticky Fingers which is a very great track but it's not available on my country. So I'm asking anyone's kindness to purchase it for me on iTunes then I will pay it via PayPal and you send the tune via email. I'm sorry if this is not allowed or considered rude but I really need this track. Thanks in advance!

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 9 February 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago) link

; - )

administrator galina (Matt P), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:00 (eleven years ago) link

wow, thanks a lot! I didn't expect someone willing to do that. I actually had the mp3 but it misteriously disappear! thanks, once again.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 9 February 2013 04:22 (eleven years ago) link

can anyone recommend me some "beautifully campy" songs? in the vein of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n63OnX6LayM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHIL11XxcLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVciu8ILqWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1HxxJpqQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzh_eZJefQg

or basically songs you would expect from the majority of a daniel wang set. thank you in advance.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 10 February 2013 08:54 (eleven years ago) link

other examples:

patrick juvet - i love america
que tal america (forgot the artist)

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 10 February 2013 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

Check out any of Boris Midney's various projects (Beautiful Bend, Caress, USA-European Connection, Double Discovery, Black Russian, Companion, etc). Here are some choice examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4hEbEkOuw4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQNQD_A5SYk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho7xzXPiC9U

Harmless has been gradually reissuing all of Midney's albums under their "Disco Recharge" series, they're pretty much all worth getting.

Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2013 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

IMO Midney is perhaps the best midpoint between funkier American disco and beautiful Euro-campiness... Plus his music always is always arranged and produced to sound really gorgeous, he's a genius in that department.

Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2013 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

Another good band with a similar sound, though a bit more romantic, is Voyage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMYNoR5NHZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HXfRVBh0PI

Tuomas, Sunday, 10 February 2013 13:32 (eleven years ago) link

nice one dl ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/shortcuts/2013/feb/01/disco-dance-edl-google-facebook

mark e, Sunday, 10 February 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

thank you, tuomas.

beautiful bend: more campy than beautiful. not my cup of tea.
usa-european connection: this is more like it. strings and female vocal: win.
companion: lacks hooks to me.
voyage: who doesn't like them.
mike theodore: possibly a grower. need to listen more.
crown heights affair: nice one although doesn't have enough campiness that I'm lookin for.
chaplin band: I prefer the italo track that sampled this.
ultra high frequency: can't hear any campiness here, at least by disco's standards.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 11 February 2013 02:11 (eleven years ago) link

thank you too, seandalai.

passengers: haha this is one cute song, I like. I guess I'm leaning to european disco like this.
musique: it's ok.
salsoul orchestra: I'm afraid this is "normal disco"
gepy n gepy: this is more like it! also love their "body to body".
chocolat: catchy little number
sheila b devotion: well of course. the b-side (dont stop) is great too.
thp: great string section there. although to me it's inferior to "who do you love" and "good to you"
raoul: too "normal" for me.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 11 February 2013 03:07 (eleven years ago) link

really enjoying "speedy like gonzales" and "kings of clubs" now. do you have more, seandalai?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 11 February 2013 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

So basically what you're looking for is string-heavy disco with (somewhat) campy female vocals, not synth-led disco like Macho?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-78Szx2mJs

What about Erotic Drum Band, is it too normal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH6g3lpPwvg

Tuomas, Monday, 11 February 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago) link

really enjoying "speedy like gonzales" and "kings of clubs" now. do you have more, seandalai?

We're not too far off Euro pop stuff like Claude Francois, Baccara, Ottawan or Dschinghis Khan at this point...here's Sheila a few years before she hooked up with Chic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0vLXCS6m60

Amanda Lear, obv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8zp4cWix3E

brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

La Bionda - Bandido

brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCUJ5N_dAZQ

brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Boys Town Gang might be a good choice too? Their "Cruisin' the Streets" is a gay disco classic, and their version of "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" is really beautiful, with some lovely strings.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 February 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

yeah good call - described by Peter Shapiro as "perhaps the campest records ever perpetrated on humanity"

brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

I played it at a friend's wedding, and if I ever get married myself, I definitely want to dance to it. It's so sentimental and gorgeous!

Tuomas, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

I always knew a Tuomas wedding reception would include a Boystown Gang needledrop.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

you guys never get to complain about the off a molly thread youtube content

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 11 February 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

macho: a really cool track but lacks this playfulness that I'm looking for.
erotic drum band: yeah I'm afraid it's a little too normal.
sheila b: hmm, a bit too cheesy for me. I guess this is normal-cheesy while I'm looking for quirky-cheesy.
amanda lear: same as above, I guess. I think I'm not too comfortable with mainstream big hits.
la bionda: sorry I can't stand this. I can tell if a disco song is "too mainstream" and this is one of them.
boystown gang: too normal, sorry.
peter jackson band: yup, I like this song and fits my criteria.
azoto: of course, my fav italian disco group.
boots clement: it fits the playful/quirky criteria but I'm afraid there's no hooks that caught me.
viola wills: not campy, but it's a pretty nice song.
gonzales: one catchy tune but really tries my mainstream tolerability and eventually I decided this is not for me.
supermax: didn't do it for me.
the immortals: yup, this is huge.
andy williams: sorry but I think this is boring.
philly usa: just a normal disco tune.
harlow: just discovered this a few days ago and yeah it fits my criteria.

phew. thank you, guys.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link

some rad tunes I just discovered:

oto gelb - love tragedy in verona
http://youtu.be/yDYN3JZ6I1Q

mandy b jones - 1234
http://youtu.be/AVePxF_pev4

rod - shake it up
http://youtu.be/1U2F5Mub3Tg

walter murphy - romeo and juliet & mostly mozart
http://youtu.be/jx9smvsaqwE

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

You're hard to please :-) Still not 100% what you're looking for...

Oto Gelb - This is just standard Eurodisco?
Mandy B Jones - This is cool, kind of a mutant disco thing
Rod - Kind of a rollerdisco sound, not sure why this stands out either?
Walter Murphy - Orchestral cheese disco is the worst thing in the world, can't hack this at all

brogue element (seandalai), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

yes, I know! I even sometimes fear there can't be any more disco songs that can blow my mind.

oto gelb and walter murphy: I first heard these in daniel wang's sets and I think his sequencing have a part in this.
rod: I love the playful girly shouts.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:24 (eleven years ago) link

Going to stop after this, but these are all goofy in one way or another:

King Tim III - Charley Says! (Roller Boogie Baby)
DD Sound - Burning Love
Bumblebee Unlimited - Lady Bug
Hot Blood - Soul Dracula

brogue element (seandalai), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:43 (eleven years ago) link

I LOVE Lady Bug, one of my top 5 disco. Hot Blood - Soul Dracula is also a winner. Gonna check the rest later.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

Ha i was going to post the Rod tune a few hours ago. Killer track, vocals go hard

brimstead, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:00 (eleven years ago) link

what about Don Ray - "midnight madness"

brimstead, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpXmfb1BC4

brimstead, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

Oh and Must - Sado Maso Disco is very very silly.

brogue element (seandalai), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:07 (eleven years ago) link

not digging that don ray tune, sorry.

wow at that Must song. how could they get away with that?? anyway I really like the quirkiness.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

Glad that you like the Immortals tune, when it comes to "quirky but awesome" disco, that one is pretty much my all-time favourite

Interesting that you mention that Rod's "Shake It Up (Do the Boogaloo)", do you just like it in general, or do you think it fits what you're looking for in this thread? I could recommend several other tunes like it, but I would've assumed that sort on funky disco is too normal to meet your "campy but beautiful" criteria.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 08:47 (eleven years ago) link

Aren't there a couple of the Disco Discharge comps which are in this general direction? I'm far from being an expert - only dipping my toes in after discovering Voyage late last year then trying Boris Midney - but there must be one of the myriad of comps which cater for this? Loving the recommendations, by the way.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 09:12 (eleven years ago) link

Actually I only love the girl shouts. I can live without the male vocal. I don't think the song as a whole fits my criteria.

There are many songs that fit my theme in that series but they're spread across the volumes; there's no particular volume that has this theme.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, Mondo Disco is pretty close.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 10:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Mondo Disco looks pretty cool, I was thinking I should get if myself.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

I like the look of that set too - I love the two Voyage tracks on there. I have the European Connection set and that's very good, highly recommended.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez0Z2naY3DY

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

Beautiful and campy seem like such two different things to me w/r/t disco.

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

Might as well post this one here too, I did an all-boogie disco mix:

https://soundcloud.com/kukka-dj/boogiemix/s-6PvKP

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3jh3ki

Tuomas, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

Today I checked out this album by "the Brazilian Donna Summer", Lady Zu:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KqndcpjQSek/Sr4TzC0qi4I/AAAAAAAATe4/gdgVEfUDCL4/s400/Lady+Zu+A+Noite+Vai+Chegar.jpg

It's not amazing but you can hear an influence from the "Samba Soul" sound and some of the songs are pretty cool, e.g. Novidades.

brogue element (seandalai), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

The Disco Handbook from way upthread is online! http://www.scribd.com/doc/3242075/The-Disco-Handbook

brogue element (seandalai), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:12 (eleven years ago) link

fn love disco

flopson, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:13 (eleven years ago) link

yez, good genre!!

on a recent youtube cruise discovered this slightly deranged proggy disco jam from the mind of baciotti of "black jack" fame (and songwriting partner pamela forrest, don't know much about her): http://youtu.be/n6nIqVre7dY
i love it

spacemindy, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 06:44 (eleven years ago) link

God knows why, but that Disco book used to be in my 6th grade classroom library (c. 1991). The Sam Viviano illustrations just triggered a long-buried memory!

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link

High Inergy - I Just Can't Help Myself
High Inergy - Sweet Man this whole lp is awesome
Delilah - Dancing in the Fire (this one's kinda weird and second tier but i love it)
Caroline Crawford - I'll Be Here For You this whole album is just jaw-droppingly great. it's slow but impossible for me to not dance to and the production is just wwow

administrator galina (Matt P), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:13 (eleven years ago) link

not strictly female but....

Dan Hartman - Vertigo / Relight My Fire later dan hartman cut, out of this world

^found on Classic Disco Mastercuts which is five stars five times. a lot of those mastercuts comps (the 90s ones, not the later ones after the company was bought by someone else iirc) are stellar. there's a mellow quiet-storm slow-boogie one that changed my life.

administrator galina (Matt P), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

also does sylvester count? female, campy and absolutely beautiful. love it all but "over and over" is pretty special.

http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-343706-1108855771.jpg

administrator galina (Matt P), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link

On repeat this week: Archie Bell and the Drells - Strategy

marc robot (seandalai), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

re: dan hartman >> that's actually a big cut, no? especially relight my fire.
re: sylvester >> what do you mean by female? haha. yes I like him but I'm afraid his style are kinda outside of the disco range I'm looking for. he's more like hi-nrg perhaps?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 02:11 (eleven years ago) link

sylvester was part of an sf ensemble / live band and his earlier highlights are full of energy yes but lush and 'soulful,' not a synth in sight.

administrator galina (Matt P), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 05:35 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7VL8caYxms

administrator galina (Matt P), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 05:36 (eleven years ago) link

I got the most recent Boris Midney reissue in the mail, this one includes his discofied versions of Evita and The Empire Strikes Back soundtracks. You might enjoy the Evita disc, unless you think it's too camp? Personally I think it's fab, I'm not the biggets fan of the musical, but Midney's arrangements are just so impeccable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFkITYXUQe8

Tuomas, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

Skip to 4:30 to hear "Rainbow High", which is probably the best tune on the album.

Tuomas, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

Also, his disco version of the Star Wars theme rules over the better known Meco version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xkAf_MhnJs

Tuomas, Friday, 22 February 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...
eight months pass...

In the late nineteen-seventies, as a heady night-life scene flourished in Manhattan, Meryl Meisler, then in her mid-twenties, spent night after night at Studio 54, Hurrah, Paradise Garage, and other clubs that would come to define the disco era. As she did so, she built a photographic archive that, until recently, had never been published, let alone seen.

http://www.newyorker.com/.../pho.../meryl-meislers-disco-era

MaresNest, Saturday, 17 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...
one year passes...

couple of years back i was unemployed due to visa issues, one of my projects to keep busy was writing a list of my favourite disco songs. i just came across it in my google drive. i will now spam it to you. list veers a bit into post-disco/boogie/italo a bit at the end, which wasn't the intention but when youre sitting around baked with a kitten listening to music on youtube your mind wanders:

love and kisses - i found love (now that i found you)

Bill withers - you got the stuff. Harlem

The equals - black skinned blue eyed boys

cerrone - love in c minor. supernature

crystal world – crystal grass

alec costandinos - romeo and juliet

Gary's gang - keep on dancing

gino soccio - dancer

Idris Muhammad - could heaven ever be like this

Candido - thousand finger man

young and company - i like what you do to me

Bonnie bramlett - crazy 'bout my baby

Honey cone - stick up

chicago - street player

Atmosfear - dancing in outer space

Gladys knight - I've got to use my imagination

The nite liters - k-jee

Pointer sisters - going down slowly. Yes we can can

Salsoul orchestra - salsoul hustle (tom moulton mix)

Kebekelektrik - war dance

Abaco dream - life and death in g & a

Tavares - heaven must be missing an angel

Lou Rawls - you'll never find another love like mine

Isaac Hayes - moonlight loving

instant funk - i got my mind up. crying (larry levan mix)

tjm - put yourself in my place

jimmy bo horne – spank. dance on the floor

dennis parker - like an eagle

Booker t and the Mg's - melting pot

osibisa – survival

babatunde olatunji - jin-go-lo-ba

don downing – dream world

Musique - love massage

black sun - black sun

two tons of fun - i don’t want to lose your love

Boston soul sound orchestra - do it now

Firefly - love (is gonna be on your side)

eddie kendricks – girl you need a change of mind, keep on truckin, going up in smoke

karma - high priestess

harold melvin and the blue notes – bad luck. The love i lost

Mystic - disco love affair

Philly devotions - hurt so bad

Crown heights affair - say a prayer for two

trammps – love epidemic. That's where the happy people go

sparkle – handsome man

Lamont Dozier - going back to my roots

resonance – yellow train

munich machine - get on the funk train

detroit emeralds – feel the need

vicki sue robinson – turn the beat around

diana ross – love hangover. Upside down. My old piano

the emotions – i don't want to lose your love

brenda and the tabulations - let’s go all the way

miroslav vitous – new york city

george mcrae – i get lifted, rock your baby

the ritchie family - brazil

carol douglas – doctor's orders. Midnight love affair

undisputed truth – you + me = love

ozo - anambra

Sylvester - dance (disco heat). You make me feel (mighty real)

first choice – let no man put asunder. Doctor love

salsoul orchestra - runaway

carl bean – i was born this way

Sister sledge - lost in music. He's the greatest dancer

loleatta holloway – we're getting stronger (the longer we stay together). Love sensation. Hit and run (walter gibbons 12” mix)

double exposure – ten percent. my love is free

Phreek - weekend

Deodato - whistle bump

evelyn champagne king – shame. love come down (post-disco)

People's choice - do it anyway you wanna

love committee – just as long as ive got you

barry white – love's theme

The brothers Johnson - stomp

Easy going - baby I love you

grace jones – la vie en rose. I need a man

hamilton bohannon – foot stomping music

erotic drum band – jerky rhythm

silver convention – fly robin fly

Don ray - standing in the rain

mfsb – mfsb. Love is the message. Tsop

blue magic – magic of the blue

Ramona brooks - I don't want you back

Carrie Lucas - dance with you

Johnny hammond - los conquistadores chocolates

The o'jays - backstabbers

Damon Harris - it's music

Lace - can't play around

nyc peech boys – don't make me wait

johnnie taylor – seconds of your love

The gap band - yearning for your love

Tullio de piscopo - stop bajon (primavera)

Eddie grant - no one has the time

Tw funk masters - love money

Forrrce - keep on dancing

New Jersey connection - love don't come easy

Logg - I know you will

Man Friday - love honey love heartache

Colonel Abrams - trapped

Unlimited touch - I hear music in the street

whispers - and the beat goes on. Keep on loving me

D-train - you're the one for me

Odyssey - inside out

George Benson - give me the night

Hugh masekela - don't go lose it baby

street beat - do the flex

sharon redd - beat the street

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

Sick, lots of my faves on there and a bunch i haven't heard. The year of my life when i listened to mostly disco was the best return on investment I've ever gotten in terms of lifetime jams i can always go back to for a pick-me-up

my current favourite song of all time is Sister Sledge - Thinking Of You, an album cut off We Are Family and B side to Lost in Music--apparently it charted in Ireland in the 80's? it's better than any of their singles except Greatest Dancer, which (call me crazy) it is equally good as. it's so beautiful it makes me cry; the guitar line is classic Nile Rodgers and adds this bittersweet, melancholy touch to it.

I'm thinkin' of you
and the things you do, to me
that make me love you
now i'm livin' in ecstasy

and the way she slips into lower register on the "Together" here

All the time he makes me glad that I'm alive
Together we will survive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de4_vbntd50

flopson, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

oh i also heard a *really* good one recently, that i had never heard before

Casual T - Hands Off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1GZBlErK3c

(sampled in The Black Madonna - Stay)

flopson, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

cool, will listen to those later

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

the dmitri from paris mix of "thinking of you" is sublime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaHp4i2mCdE

map, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

Just remembered that thinking of you was a huge hit in the UK when I was a little kid and I know the whole thing so well lol

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

it's my fav nile guitar part after 'i want your love' and 'lost in music'

map, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

beyond "haven't you heard" i think my favorite disco song of all time is machine's "there but for the grace of god go i"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

"haven't you heard" is so great

map, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

"my love is free" is the ultimate disco song

esempiu (crüt), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

gino soccio - dancer

heard this in a greenhouse early this summer where some art exhibit opening party was happening. i didn't expect disco of all things to be the soundtrack but it was just perfect.

i wanted to request something from change's the glow of love since i had shed some bliss-tears to "a lover's holiday" in my bedroom over the spring. but i was too shy to ask the french fella helming the turntables.

dyl, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link

"my love is free" is the ultimate disco song

― esempiu (crüt), Tuesday, August 23, 2016 5:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

couldn't agree more

flopson, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 13:07 (seven years ago) link

Thread revive got me listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_2R2CrT14

ǂbait (seandalai), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link

Completely ambivalent about the music.

Championing disco as a proxy for first-year-of-gender-studies "stick it to the rockist hegemony" politics is crap and beyond stale.

punksishippies, Thursday, 25 August 2016 00:39 (seven years ago) link

sorry sir, there's no choice for you but to go back to rate your music. all the garbage-opinion rooms here are taken. there are no vacancies.

map, Thursday, 25 August 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link

how quaint

brimstead, Thursday, 25 August 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link

lol

dyl, Thursday, 25 August 2016 07:38 (seven years ago) link

but when youre sitting around baked with a kitten listening to music on youtube your mind wanders:

this sounds remarkably like my summer but instead of disco its jacquees and French montana

johnny crunch, Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:45 (seven years ago) link

going to be playing some Disco songs and talking about them on the radio tomorrow (well, recording it tomorrow i'm not sure when it's going to air) for a friend's show. he told me to bring 5 songs (not enough!) this is my long list

Sister Sledge - Thinking Of You
Chemise - She Can't Love You
Crown Heights Affair - Say A Prayer For Two
Jones Girls - You Gonna Make Me Love Somebody Else
Oby Onyioha - Enjoy Your Life
Shirley & Company - Shame, Shame, Shame
Slave - Watching You

and I'm going to bring

Claudja Berry - Love For the Sake of Love
Black Cock - Juicy Sushi
Casual T - Hands Off (Instrumental)

for introludes/talking tracks

I'm not usually very good at talking about music on the radio, know anything interesting about any of these songs I could say? Also, which 2 of the top 7 would you cut?

flopson, Saturday, 27 August 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

when you play the Black Cock record you could tell people DJ Harvey's line - how people say you can't understand the blues until you've had your heart broken, well, you can't understand DJ Harvey's music until you've had group sex on ecstasy

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

Lol

when I used to have a radio show at community station here i would always omit that track from the log in case someone ever saw it

flopson, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

Is juicy sushi the really intense/fast brassy one?
Love those edits. Been awhile since I listened... Should burn a disc

brimstead, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

yup that's the one

flopson, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

I'd take the chemise track off just cuz I consider it more electro-boogie 80sness but that's just me. Great track tho, obviously

brimstead, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link

I was going to cut CHA and Slave, but I just realized I need to add Double Exposure - My Love Is Free... fuck it would kill me to cut 'She Can't Love You'

flopson, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

save it for a sequel show maybe? electronic disco branches...

brimstead, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfTjuFUoWPY

Been listening to this a lot lately, any suggestions for similar (mostly) instrumental, brass-heavy disco in the vain of the above or Brass Construction's "Movin'"?

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 August 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfBqA4GM9Pg

Here's another tune in the same style.

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 August 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laWIhw8_5fA

And this one of course.

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 August 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUB4qVPflhw

Wes Brodicus, Monday, 29 August 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

some recent faves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLGBslI8CsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AjjChXfRHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6nlrj2aNng

and probably my favorite gino soccio (this week):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhAPoip5YeQ

TS: gino soccio "hold tight" vs. change "hold tight"

andrew m., Monday, 29 August 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link

ALSO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F7nWanQrlI

all these early kleeer albums got gems galore.

i'll hand it over for a while now.

andrew m., Monday, 29 August 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link

New Tim Lawrence book on the way!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51cEExWnx7L._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

ǂbait (seandalai), Monday, 29 August 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

that theo vaness lp is good, i love this one from the b-side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LtNlT2SV_k

map, Monday, 29 August 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

New Tim Lawrence book on the way!

― ǂbait (seandalai), Monday, August 29, 2016 8:42 PM (yesterday)

Oh, sweet! The introduction is available to read here: https://www.dukeupress.edu/Assets/PubMaterials/978-0-8223-6186-2_601.pdf

I'd been meaning to find my copies of Lawrence's Love Saves The Day & Shapiro's Turn The Beat Around for my partner after they got hooked on The Get Down and it's Loft-equivalent scenes etc.

etc, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 04:15 (seven years ago) link

@ Tuomas: I always file Brainstorm next to Brass Construction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81qVg8fU6Hg

los blue jeans, Thursday, 8 September 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

this is such an outrageous jam, it just keeps building

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VssP-L23b44

until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Thursday, 8 September 2016 02:16 (seven years ago) link

those ladies could sing

until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Thursday, 8 September 2016 02:24 (seven years ago) link

This is really... not very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8lK5zdXySc
Not even sure if it counts as disco.

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

mixcloud link if u wanna hear my radio set

https://www.mixcloud.com/n10as/the-alphabet-02092016/

he let me play all the songs in the end :)

flopson, Thursday, 8 September 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

i put together 12 tracks of "classic" disco with diva leanings for an ungrateful boy who didn't even download them, so i'm gonna share them here. it's unmixed; they're all aiff from vinyl for the record lovers so the zip is kinda big.

1. Patrice Rushen - Haven't You Heard
2. Brainstorm - Hot For You
3. Loleatta Holloway - Love Sensation
4. Chic - Everybody Dance
5. Musique - Keep On Jumpin'
6. Bionic Boogie - Dance Little Dreamer
7. Change - Angel In My Pocket
8. Inner Life - Moment Of My Life
9. Loose Change - Straight From The Heart
10. Cheryl Lynn - Got To Be Real
11. Sister Sledge - Lost In Music
12. Phreek - Weekend

https://www.adrive.com/public/q2gXBb/Disco%20Mix%20for%20Chris.zip

savvinesslessness (map), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

loving this one from celi bee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydqipr97i10

also, s/o to ytuber fredy amezquita! he's all over it with the vids.

andrew m., Tuesday, 27 September 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link

Lot of things I don't know on this list: 100 KILLER DISCO SONGS FOR A TENNER OR LESS

minimal hat spiritualism (seandalai), Friday, 30 September 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

The well of disco never runs dry

flopson, Friday, 30 September 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

otm

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 02:51 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

New Tim Lawrence book on the way!

― ǂbait (seandalai), Monday, August 29, 2016 8:42 PM

Compilation/soundtrack for said book (Life & Death On The New York Dance Floor) on the way:
https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/42875

Tracklist:

Part 1
A1 Dinosaur L - Go Bang! (LP Version)
A2 Tuxedomoon - Desire
B1 Gray - Drum Mode
B2 Alan Vega - Saturn Drive
C1 David Byrne - Big Business (Dance Mix)
C2 New York 88 - Jam Hot (Rhumba Rock)
D1 Rammellzee vs K-Rob - Beat Bop (Original 12-inch Single)
D2 3 Teens Kill 4 - Hold Up

Part 2
A1 John Robie - Vena Cava
A2 James White & The Blacks - Contort Yourself (August Darnell Mix)
B1 Quando Quango - Love Tempo (Mark Kamins Mix
B2 George Kranz - Din Daa Daa (Trommeltanz)
C1 Loose Joints - Pop Your Funk (Instrumental Version) (7-inch B-Side Mix)
C2 Material - Bustin' Out (Long Version)
D1 Peech Boys - Don't Make Me Wait (Extended Version)
D2 Edwin Birdsong - Rapper Dapper Snapper

willem, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

That's not disco.

everything, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

Now That's What I Call Disco Not Disco!

Rad Macca (Craig D.), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

That's not disco.
Yeah you're right. Searched ILM for Tim Lawrence and this seemed the most appropriate thread

willem, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 09:10 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

This thread is a graveyard. Or maybe it's just not loading properly for me?

I've been listening to a lot of disco, boogie, italo, and post-disco lately. Most of it is pretty bad, and for disco I'd say most of what I like has already been covered here, particularly Jim in Vancouver's outstanding list.

It does seem like generally with the ongoing disco revival championed by the likes of Motor City Drum Ensemble etc that frankly the standards of quality are pretty low. I recently watched a video of a Joey Negro DJ set hoping to pick out something I hadn't heard before, I think I did find one or two standout cuts but overall quite a sad experience.

viborg, Friday, 5 July 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link

Thank you for your insightful contribution.

ArchCarrier, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

Lol.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

I've been DJ-ing disco every Friday night for almost eighteen months, and disco fatigue is starting to kick in. That said, all the tunes in my boxes are CLASSIC.

mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

after a decade or so of extensively listening to disco, sometimes in a particularly trainspotting manner (looking up songs that appear in charts in books by tim lawrence and vince aletti, looking at discographies of disco artists who have a few songs i enjoy to find if they have anything else i like etc.) i still find myself encountering new (to me) and good stuff. i have a working turntable for the first time in quite a while so i might recommence crate-digging and discoging once I've sorted my finances out a bit lol

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 July 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

from an ilx point of view there's a good thread on disco and boogie discoveries that has been updated a decent amount in the last year or so Rolling thread for your recent DISCO and BOOGIE discoveries, enthusiasms and obsessions

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 July 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

Disco diggers could also look at https://jameshamiltonsdiscopage.com/ - an archive of all James Hamilton's weekly disco columns for Record Mirror, from 1975 to (currently) early 1983.

mike t-diva, Friday, 5 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

also this book is very good, ny and la disco charts from 1973-78, i think it got a recent reprint and it's cheap on amazon rn:

The Disco Files 1973–78: New York's Underground, Week by Week Paperback – November 27, 2018
by Vince Aletti (Author), Fran Lebowitz (Author)

cheese canopy (map), Friday, 5 July 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

yeah it's a good one to dig into

actually meant to write "dip into" but anyway

Cheers to the constructive posters. I saw a lot of contributions from you upthread and was gonna ask if you're still around seandalai.

I need to get those books. Especially the Tim Lawrence book, looks like a lot of folks cosign it here. I think the book Last Night A DJ Saved My Life was my initial introduction to classic disco etc charts but that was 10+ years ago and I don't have my copy anymore so can't comment on how it holds up now. That James Hamilton site is a good resource too, cheers for that.

Jim I'd appreciate checking out a few of your recent discoveries. I'll try to check my recent listening with what's already been posted and maybe I can update that other thread if I find anything worthwhile.

viborg, Saturday, 6 July 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link

These fools tho.

Thank you for your insightful contribution.

― ArchCarrier

Lol.

― Chewshabadoo

Why do you have to do this here? Can't you shitpost on twitter, rate your music, reddit or pretty much anywhere else? I guess this is what people mean when they talk smack about ILM so much now...

viborg, Saturday, 6 July 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

(And yeah I realize I didn't exactly offer a gold-star thread revive, my main inspiration was from checking out all the great music on the Afropop/Afrobeats thread posted mainly by breastcrawl and then seeing how they were kind of desperately appealing for other users to post pretty much anything...I don't know much about Afrobeats but I do know disco so here we are.)

viborg, Saturday, 6 July 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link

Love Saves the Day is beyond essential, completely transformed my understanding of the context behind the music.

Playlist of 100+ personal favourites: https://open.spotify.com/user/seandalai/playlist/4Xq5uVvrHhJ8l4YZlZTD9a (many are not obscure, above all they're the tracks I never get tired of)

Today he dances jazz, but tomorrow he will sell his homeland (seandalai), Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link

i've been needing to read a good dance music/club culture history. i think i will start w/ love saves the day and see where that takes me

dyl, Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

Can't you shitpost on twitter, rate your music, reddit or pretty much anywhere else?

can't you? given the content of your posts here so far, wouldn't it be safe to assume you already do? please stay awhile if you actually want to discuss things or engage w/ 'the community' and can tolerate ppl being a bit unserious or quippy but damn.

dyl, Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:38 (four years ago) link

The whole attitude of “well I’ve scoured the internet for all the good music” is so depressing

brimstead, Saturday, 6 July 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

Ugh, yeah

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 July 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

my disco jams archive just keeps growing and growing

flopson, Monday, 8 July 2019 01:34 (four years ago) link

I only trust folks who say they like disco

spacedaddy, Monday, 8 July 2019 06:20 (four years ago) link

Would love a book compiling all of James Hamilton's articles. The site linked above is great but can't beat checking out the original pages in Record Mirror.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 8 July 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link

@RecordMirror80s on Twitter uploads high quality scans of James Hamilton's pages (amongst much else) on a daily basis; they also use the hashtag #JamesHamilton

mike t-diva, Monday, 8 July 2019 12:01 (four years ago) link

Oh nice, thanks for the tip.

Still would prefer something physical though. Which I'm sure is something the great man would have said.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 8 July 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

I really enjoyed this a lot and learned a lot about the roots and culture around disco

https://www.amazon.com/Hot-Stuff-Remaking-American-Culture/dp/0393338916

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Fantastic story here about a particular LA disco culture:

https://www.lataco.com/underground-disco-east-la/

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 June 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link


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