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after R.E.M.'s 'fables of the reconstruction', before hitting the real big time, peter buck went back to work in his local record store. strange but true. has anyone ever seen a once-famous/legendary rock n pop type in a similair situation? i think all the tindersticks now have regular job-type jobs on the go. just before chris martin came calling, embrace were all 9 to 5-ing it recently.

others?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know any, but great thread idea.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

what were embrace doing? one of kula shaker works in marketing, that i know.

Miles Finch, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not sure exactly what he does for a day job, but Moe Berg (the former singer for Canada's once-popular The Pursuit of Happiness) has a regular DJ gig at a small T.O. pub called The Tap.

Bruce S. Urquhart (BanjoMania), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

M4rk 1bold of Pavement's been seen pouring drinks in M4nh4tt4n of late.

Snappy (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Somehow I stupidly imagined that Pavement members didn't need to work anymore.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

one of kula shaker works in marketing, that i know.

Presumably he learned from his mistakes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

When Turbonegro broke up in 1998, singer Hank von Helvete went to work as a caretaker in a whaling museum in Norway. Bassist Happy Tom worked as a market analyst. However they got back together in 2002.

matulageci (matulageci), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I read somewhere that Moe Tucker worked at Walmart.

insert name here, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Lou Reed work in his dad's office for a bit before his solo career took off.

Snappy (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Alastair Moore, the keyboard player from the Skids, taught me music at school.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Was Sterling Morrison ever a tugboat captain, or did I just make that up?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

bill withers went back to working as a contractor when he stopped singing. his company builds houses and stuff. weird but true, too.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd have thought he could live off of the royalties from "Lean on Me" alone.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I read somewhere that Moe Tucker worked at Walmart.

See her song "Spam Again"

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

xxpost:
I don't think you made it up, Huk, I heard that too.

Didn't David Lee Roth go into paramedic training recently?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Greg Norton from Husker Du opened a restaurant.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Shane MaGowan worked at the record shop round the back of the Virgin Megastore Oxford Street, between finishing the Nips and starting the Pogues. I saw him there a couple times, anyway.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Dave Lowering became a magician.

Kurt Wagner kept up the fllooring business.

And didn't Sterling Morrison become a tourist boat captain while waiting for the Velvets reunion?

laticsmon (laticsmon), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Tim Rutilli of Califone waits tables (occasionally) at an amazing restaurant in Chicago - same place that Greg Davis takes residency a few times per year.

cdjk, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd have thought he could live off of the royalties from "Lean on Me" alone.

Why, surely he could. But I think that he actually takes pleasure in working as a building contractor.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Makes sense to me.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Lean on Me Construction:

You won't WITHER when you get the BILL!

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

David Lee Roth now works as an emergency medical technician in New York.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

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Bill "Zoot Horn Rollo" Harkleroad apparently works in a little music / record shop and sometimes teaches guitar.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I once read that Tim Buckley worked as a gardener after his Elektra contract was over and that he was Sly Stone's gardener?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember that Moe Tucker worked as a data entry clerk . . I never heard Walmart though.

Sterling Morrison was a teacher .. College I think ...

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

lots of jazz people got regular jobs when things got bad. King Oliver ended up selling stuff on the street in Savannah, Louis Armstrong saw him there in the '30s.

Benny Spellman, the great New Orleans singer (of "Lipstick Traces") was a beer salesman.

Alex Chilton was a tree-trimmer and dishwasher in New Orleans in the early '80s.

I think Alberta Hunter became a nurse...

I'm pretty sure Moe Tucker worked at a Wal-Mart down in Georgia.

es hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

moe tucker def worked at walmart. theres a lot of stuff about it (although i dont think the store is mentioned by name) in life in exile after abdication. which is a great album, i think.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

that blows my mind about david lee roth!

here in glasgow, steven pastel of the pastels runs a record shop (although the pastels are still going too). one of uresei yatsura works in a record shop, alan rankine of the associates teaches music technology and bobby bluebell of the bluebells is a dj.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

xxpost -- I remember learning when I went to New Orleans that a lot of jazz musicians in the 20s and 30s had dayjobs there as builders -- I think King Oliver might have been mentioned but I don't remember.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess all bluesmen from th 30s who were rediscovered in the 60s would also fit here.

matulageci (matulageci), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the guys from XTC worked (maybe still does) at a car rental place , even in the band's heydey, because the singer had chronic stagefright so they had no steady source of income.

CowboyTrance (cowboytrance), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Elizabeth Cotten played music, went back to work for many years, and then became something of a *star*. She was the Seegers' housekeeper when she was *discovered*.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Hugo Burnham went on to record exec stuff of some sort, but I think the thread is better if we don't concentrate on people who moved into an entertainment corporation.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Tim Rutilli of Califone waits tables (occasionally) at an amazing restaurant in Chicago

Where?

More Chicago musicians:

Janet Bean of Eleventh Dream Day and Freakwater works at a law firm. Tim Kinsella of Joan of Arc and Johnny Herndon of Tortoise have both bartended at the Rainbo Club in Wicker Park. John Navin of the Aluminum Group is a public school teacher; his brother Frank waits tables at the restaurant in the Hancock Building.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, let's not get on the artist x went on to produce or become an A&R man track.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

(None of mine went "back to work," though: I don't think any were successful enough to actually quit in the first place.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Rutilli is occasionally waiting tables at Rodan in Wicker Park.

cdjk, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, interesting. I've been there. I wouldn't recognize him, though, since I've never seen Califone.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

steven pastel of the pastels runs a record shop (although the pastels are still going too). alan rankine of the associates teaches music technology

I remember Steven working in the music department of John Smith' before they sold up to Starbucks. Alan Rankine helped get Belle and Sebastians career off the ground.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom Rapp of Pearls before Swine became a lawyer, as did Santiago Durango of Big Black.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Justine Frischmann of Elastica has done some school teaching since 2001.

CT (cowboytrance), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Bob Mould worked as a writer for WCW Wrestling a while back.

gspm (gspm), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Somebody had a thread recently about Art Tripp, ex-Mothers percussionist, who became a chiropractor and moved to the Mississippi Gulf Coast area within the last couple of years. Also, Motorhead Sherwood became a California Highway Patrolman. (Time to recast all those CHiPs episodes in my head.)

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

isnt laura cantrell a stockbroker on wall street? i know her job is finance-related, somehow.

on the pylon website, there's information about all the current occupations of its members.

i almost never hear of musicians / artists in general existing without some sort of dayjob.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Dunno how many of these you'd call "rock stars"....

Mark Perry (Alternative TV) worked in WH Smiths for a while
Vic Godard (Subway Sect) is a postman
Manic Esso (Lurkers) was last seen working as a drayman
Viv Albertine (Slits) works (vaguely) in television
Topper Headon (Clash) is apparently a taxi driver
Gaye Advert (Adverts) works (vaguely) in personnel / admin
Pauline Murray (Penetration) I believe works in Social Services
Jayne Casey (Big In Japan / Pink Industry / Pink Military) works for Liverpool Council
Howard Devoto (Buzzcocks / Magazine) works / worked for a picture archive library
Paul Jones (drummer with Killing Joke protegees Red Beat) works for High Wycombe council; as, I believe does Howard (also form High Wycombe but no relation afaik) Jones' mime-artist chum Jed Hoile.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

"Somebody had a thread recently about Art Tripp, ex-Mothers percussionist, who became a chiropractor and moved to the Mississippi Gulf Coast area within the last couple of years."

If you follow the link in my first post....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

pearl from powder 'works' as one quarter of a tragic wife-swapping group.

Miles Finch, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Art Tripp also an Omar Shariff impersonator?

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Stewart -- my bad.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

One thing I always wonder -- how do those mid-level indie bands survive? They're big enough that they tour frequently, hence they probably don't have a full-time job. But they also can't be making much from music.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

on my first day at work at sonicnet (RIP), i was somewhat surprised to see the bass player from too much joy sitting behind an executive desk. not that i ever imagined that being in too much joy would set you up financially for life. last i checked, he was still an online music exec somewhere.

dave allen from gang of four and shriekback is in the digital/computer/music/whatever biz in some capacity.

john s. hall from king missile is an entertainment lawyer.

as for M4rk 1bold of Pavement -- hell, he was working as the mersh guy for other bands even when pavement was at the height of their success. i'm not sure he ever went back to work inasmuch as i'm not sure he ever didn't work.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder about that, too, Hurting.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember reading an recent article about Yo La Tengo in which they said that it was only a couple years ago that they were able to make a living off music alone.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

on my first day at work at sonicnet (RIP), i was somewhat surprised to see the bass player from too much joy sitting behind an executive desk
Sandy? I remember when he started at the desk job, he was working at that building on 6th ave between 51st and 52nd where there are some offices, maybe for Atlantic, I think he had had a kid a little bit before.

You worked at sonicnet, fcc? Was that what used to be Addicted to Noise?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

A friend of mine who lives in Philly used to see one of the Dead Milkmen working in a coffee shop or a pizza place there. This was a few years back. Might’ve been the guy who died.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

ken: sandy, yes indeed. sonicnet was on bleecker street at the time, though. atlantic does, or at least did, have offices on 6th near 51st, in the same building rolling stone was in, but if sandy ever worked there, that's not where i knew him from.

sonicnet and addicted to noise were two separate companies that merged in the late '90s and continued using both identities; i started not long after the merger and essentially worked for both.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I was surprised so see Miki from Lush working in the TV listings dept of IPC. Along with Rob Sekula of 14 Iced Bears, indie fans.

laticsmon (laticsmon), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

sonicnet was on bleecker street at the time

must ... fact-check ... self. for the historical record: sonicnet was on broadway. damn close to bleecker, though.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Peter Hein, frontman of famous 80s german bad Fehlfarben, and one of the best punk singers and songwriters, decided that he'd rather work for a photocopier company than being a star. it was a voluntary choice, he was not forced to do this. IIRC, fehlfarben had just been signed.

xenografia, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Michael Gerard of Killdozer is a tax lawyer
Derrick Bostrom of The Meat Puppets is a web designer

tipustiger, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Topper Headon (Clash) is apparently a taxi driver

in the late 1980s or early 1990s, i no longer remember, i visited friends who lived in a squatted flat in brixton. I was introduced to a couple that was temporarily staying in one of my friends rooms. they guy looked like a heroin addict. he was introduced to me as topper headon, the clash drummer. i had no idea of his or the clash's fame and had certainly not heard their music before. topper told me he works as a cab driver. not sure if he still would be as some of their songs were successfully rereleased.

xenografia, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

re: bill withers -- i wouldnt be surprised if his label owns the copyright to that song. many of R&B folks from the 60s/70s rarely saw royalties for their works.

re: mid-level indie bands -- lots of them work temp jobs in between tours. this also explains why bands like that tour a lot: its one of their few sources of income.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i think i recall--perhaps it's in his biography--that while he hasn't taken up the gig fully, Philip Glass still renews his NYC taxi license whenever it's up for renewal

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i saw one of them out of mclusky working at HMV in cardiff and one of menswear works in that snazzy trainer shop right by camden locke

joey deacon, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

on my first day at work at sonicnet (RIP), i was somewhat surprised to see the bass player from too much joy sitting behind an executive desk. not that i ever imagined that being in too much joy would set you up financially for life. last i checked, he was still an online music exec somewhere.

That would be Tim Quirk: He went on to become editorial director of Listen.com, now a part of Real.com. Great, great guy. TMJ unfortunately didn't make him much money due to the ol' demon RECOUPMENT.

But as for others: Bobby Sherman became a California EMT; and of course Pete Best made donuts at a bakery after becoming an ex-Beatle.

Does becoming a preacher count as "going back to work"? If so, we can add Vanity, Little Richard, Ma$e, and a ton of others.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i think i recall--perhaps it's in his biography--that while he hasn't taken up the gig fully, Philip Glass still renews his NYC taxi license whenever it's up for renewal

That's awesome.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Debbie Googe became a cab driver, didn't she?
Also Billy "Bass" Nelson (the OG bass player from Funkadelic) apparently got into the computer industry in the 80s-90s, before returning to Clinton's touring band.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

That would be Tim Quirk:

actually, i was talking about sandy smallens. tim was tmj's singer and might have had a desk awfully close to the sonicnet office in san francisco, but never inside it. sandy was the tmj's bassist and his desk was inside the sonicnet office in new york. apparently, being in tmj was an excellent background for getting back to work in the digital music biz! (and tmj, of course, had a song back in the day that celebrated noted getting-back-to-worker hugo burnham of gang of four.) ((and if you spend your time in music tv/video circles, you're likely to run into a third member of too much joy.))

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Does becoming a preacher count as "going back to work"?
Wasn't the King of Rock and Soul, Solomon Burke famous for this sort of thing? Preacher, undertaker, concessionary seller of ribs and popcorn before his own shows. I remember reading a story from Dion or somebody talking about how, before they got on the tourbus, Solomon would buy some sandwiches somewhere and then, a few hours later when the other performers were "dying for something," he'd charge them five (1962!) dollars for a ham sandwich.

Somebody once told me they had met a lawyer at a business meeting who told them he had been in Looking Glass, if not the lead singer
himself.

And what about the bass player in Huey Lewis's old (and for one album, Elvis Costello's) band Clover, who has been known to play with Lucinda Williams but also got a day job as a chiropractor, Dr. John Ciambotti?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, seeing SonicNet's and ATN's names bandied about takes me back... Webnoize.com was the horse I rode for a while, then AOL, then back to relatively straight work. Good times, tho.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Fact Checkin Cuz: Thank you for once more living up to your name. :)

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Does becoming a preacher count as "going back to work"?

Paging Al Green.

The Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Webnoize.com was the horse I rode for a while, then AOL, then back to relatively straight work

guess those stock options never quite paid off, huh? ;-)

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"topper told me he works as a cab driver. not sure if he still would be as some of their songs were successfully rereleased."

Last I heard (a couple of years ago) he was living somewhere down near (Dover?) and still driving a taxi.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Cappadonna also became a cab driver after the last few Wu related albums started tanking.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

You know, I got a cab ride once from a pretty well-known music writer.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Kelly Hogan bartends at the Hideout in Chicago.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Rick Buckler (The Jam) now makes a living restoring and selling old furniture.
A former Buzzcock (can't remember if it's Steve Garvey or John Maher) is apparently working as a car mechanic somewhere in the USA.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

speaking of restorers, billy zoom from x had a shop for a long time where he repaired and customized guitar amps. he may still have the shop, but his website says he's too busy producing to work on amps right now.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Prior to his death, John McGeoch (Magazine, Visage, Banshees, Public Image) was working as a nurse.
The Damned's keyboard player Monty Oxymoron still works as a psychiatric nurse when the band aren't touring.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link

didnt those alimony docs that came out on the smoking gun awhile back mention that exene cervenka (sp?) was a high school teacher? also, didnt one of the girls from sleater kinney teach in between all hands on the bad one and one beat?

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link

xxxpost:
Wasn't one of Mott the Hoople also in the furniture restoration business- Overend Watts?
I thought I heard that Pete Shelley was working in the City of London as a stockbroker or something back in the 90s.

Anton Fier was working as a counterman at a local sandwich shop in downtown Brooklyn until recently.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

"I thought I heard that Pete Shelley was working in the City of London as a stockbroker or something back in the 90s."

Buzzcocks have been back together (only Pete and Steve Diggle from the origonal line-ups) since 1989....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link

One of The Raincoats (Gina Birch?) weas running an antiques shop before the band reformed.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Sterling Morrison was a teacher .. College I think ...
He did that too. He went back to grad school to get a PhD in (Victorian?) Literature at UT Austin.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

rock stars who went back TO work that's meant to say in the thread title by the way sorry. if i were from rochdale it'd be okay as it is.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I saw something about the drummer from Bl*nk 1*2 teaching drum lessons even now

King Kobra (King Kobra), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Can we really count something like that?

xpost:
Baby's got back work.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link

"I thought I heard that Pete Shelley was working in the City of London as a stockbroker or something back in the 90s."
Buzzcocks have been back together (only Pete and Steve Diggle from the origonal line-ups) since 1989....

Yeah, you're right. Shows what I get for talking and listening to strangers.

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Santiago Durango went to law school when Big Black split (wasn't he the reason they split?). He may still be there of course if he's done a lot of re-sits for being a daft lad.

Greg Demos, former GBV.....wasn't he another lawyer type?

Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

and speaking of gbv-related peeps, there's also john petkovic of cobra verde, who's a reporter for the cleveland plain-dealer. though i'm not sure if that's technically going "back" to work, 'cause i'm not sure if he was ever NOT doing it.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

an old co-worker used to get her taxes done by (i think) the drummer from the circle jerks.

ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

The Bass Thing from the Wonder Stuff briefly worked at the Tower Records on Broadway....before he died.

I saw Debbie (guitar player) from Curve/Echobelly working at a used disc store in London right across from the Notting Hill tube stop in 2000.

Jack Natz (Undead/Virus/BlackSnakes/Cop Shoot Cop/Lubricated Goat/CrimeWave/Crux) is now a bike messenger.

Supposedly Wild Bill Carter of the Screaming Blue Messiahs is now a scooter messenger in London...with a tenuous grasp on sanity.

an old co-worker used to get her taxes done by (i think) the drummer from the circle jerks.

I've heard that too, only it's not the drummer, it's their bass player circa Golden Showe of Hits (whose name escapes me).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

jesse peretz of the lemonheads gave up music to become a video and filmmaker.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Laura Cantrell actually wasn't a stockbroker, she was an analyst at B@nk of @merica up in midtown. Worked a floor above me when I was there, but I didn't know her. Tony Rettm@n of Blastitude.com/200 lb. underground zine infamy works in publication services there.

And didn't Sterling Morrison become a tourist boat captain while waiting for the Velvets reunion?

he was a tugboat captain. also, a medieval scholar.

M4rk Ibold is also a "food designer" for photo shoots. Meaning, he makes sure photographed food looks good.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Philip Glass still renews his NYC taxi license whenever it's up for renewal

if it's a medallion, and not a license, there would be incredible financial incentive to keep renewing it.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

M4rk Ibold is also a "food designer" for photo shoots. Meaning, he makes sure photographed food looks good.
you'd be surprised at how this is actually somewhat difficult.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I wasn't trying to imply that it isn't difficult, just explain it in layman's terms since it's not the most common profession.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

oh i know. sometimes its also referred to as "food stylist"...

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

In a Wire interview Keith Levene mentioned that until recently he was working as a graphic designer in LA.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Also Billy "Bass" Nelson (the OG bass player from Funkadelic) apparently got into the computer industry in the 80s-90s, before returning to Clinton's touring band.

he actually worked at Rocketdyne in Simi Valley. i tried to talk to him about it once but that guy is difficult to talk to. he's always in his own world.

also check this out about my favo heavy metal singer:

Bruce Dickinson juggles life as singer for the band Iron Maiden with flying a Boeing

A ROCK star whose band is famed for long hair and wild on-stage antics has taken off in a new career: as an airline pilot.

Bruce Dickinson, lead singer of the heavy metal band Iron Maiden, has passed rigorous flight exams to qualify to fly twin-engine passenger jets with a new charter airline based at Gatwick.

He now works as a pounds 35,000-a-year first officer, flying 148-seat Boeing 737s to holiday destinations ranging from Portugal to Egypt.

These days, Dickinson, 44, who once had waist-length, ginger hair and leapt around stage in leathers and skin-hugging tights ...

charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

also the drummer for BRMC is unemployed and homeless right now so if anyone has an open position contact him asap! ;)

charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe he should form a Primal Scream-esque act and follow his destiny!

Snappy (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Jeff "Skunk" Baxter does some kind of defense dept. consulting. Don't know if he needs to, though.

nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

he gets royalties? I always thought he just a session hack and tv mouth-off.

Snappy (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

there's also john petkovic of cobra verde, who's a reporter for the cleveland plain-dealer. though i'm not sure if that's technically going "back" to work, 'cause i'm not sure if he was ever NOT doing it.

I read somewhere that he'd been a freelance journalist while in Cobra Verde--is he a staff writer or a stringer now?

Julia Cafritz reportedly is teaching in NYC, and I once heard about Juliana Hatfield working at one of the Newbury Comics stores.

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

bill withers went back to working as a contractor when he stopped singing. his company builds houses and stuff. weird but true, too.

-- Jay-Kid (jizzleki...) (webmail), February 1st, 2005 3:54 PM. (Jay-Kid) (link)


I'd have thought he could live off of the royalties from "Lean on Me" alone.

-- Hurting (Hurtingchie...) (webmail), February 1st, 2005 3:54 PM. (Hurting) (link)


i read an interview with him recently; he says he just likes to be busy. sounds good to me. i wonder if the showcase homes he builds have a big "built by BILL 'LEAN ON ME' WITHERS" sign out front.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I love it when the night shift comes in and does the day shift's work all over again.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, I thought those were new posts, not quotes.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Greg Norton of Husker Du is now a chef.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

When I interviewed Barbara Manning a few years back she said she was going to pursue a forestry degree in Northern California. A quick scan of barbaramanning.com suggests she's doing so.

m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 00:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Keith Morris from the Circle Jerks is also a chef at Millies on Sunset.

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i believe that kim wilde does landscape gardening now, if memory serves...

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

a really annoying one is Deniz Tek, guitarist and songwriter out of Radio Birdman (70s oz punk/detroit pebbles). He was US citizen so at demise of band went back to the US became a Navy Jet Pilot and then a Doctor.

His career reads:

Rock Star
Fighter Pilot
Doctor

bastard!

gallantseagull, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link

A former Buzzcock (can't remember if it's Steve Garvey or John Maher) is apparently working as a car mechanic somewhere in the USA.

It's John Maher. In one of the recent Manchester documentaries on BBC, he's interviewed in his garage.

J. Geils of the J. Geils Band is a car restorer in rural NY or MA.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Another one who should have been able to live off of his royalties:

Peter Tork taught social studies, math, and music at a high school for a while after his career with the Monkees.

jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

paris became an accountant

Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 03:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I could look this up to be sure, but some member of Iron Butterfly became some sort of rocket scientist or scientician or something, and then he worked for the U.S. government, and then either federal agents or spacemen "disappeared" him. But maybe they found his corpse later?

Heidy- Ho, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Chris Mars of the Replacements is a relatively successful artist. I have one of his lithos in my office (the cover from Horseshoes & Handgrenades), and I've seen paintings for sale at upward of $50,000.

David Schelzel of The Ocean Blue was a year behind me in law school. We had a class together, and he seemed pretty bookish. I believe he is a corporate attorney somewhere in MN.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 05:53 (sixteen years ago) link

"Handgrenades" should have been "Hand Grenades." Sorry. I was worried about screwing up the HTML. His website seems to be screwed up right now, but you can normally view his art at chrismarspublishing.com.

subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 05:57 (sixteen years ago) link

"Justine Frischmann of Elastica has done some school teaching since 2001"

ah she ain't gotta work, isn't her dad some big-deal london real estate tycoon?

noizem duke (noize duke), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 08:43 (sixteen years ago) link

lee dorman from the iron butterfly used to sleep on my couch when i was young!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 10:15 (sixteen years ago) link

**Vic Godard (Subway Sect) is a postman**

Once he delivered my mail for a week or two. It's true!


**I saw Debbie (guitar player) from Curve/Echobelly working at a used disc store in London right across from the Notting Hill tube stop in 2000.**

She still does, Alex. It's the big Record and Tape Exchange (or Music and Video exchange as it's now called.) She's usually in the rock rareties section upstairs, where Epic Soundtracks also used to work.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Pat DiNizio of the Smithereens was, until very recently, the music teacher at my son's elementary school in Manhattan.

James Williamson of the Stooges does something w/computers in Silicon Valley.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link

has Jah Wobble been mentioned? i think he quit his first band to become a tube driver.

Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

jah wobble, yesterday

ihttp://www.electroharmonix.co.jp/tubeworks/img/911.jpg

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Philip Kramer of Iron Butterfly went on to become a rocket scientist before he disappeared.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 11:48 (sixteen years ago) link

The drummer from the Bodysnatchers and the Belle Stars is a technical writer. I used to work with her.

KeithW (kmw), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

"Vic Godard (Subway Sect) is a postman"

"Once he delivered my mail for a week or two. It's true!"

It can't be all that frequent for a customer to ask a postman to sign something he hasn't even delivered....

Last year my old mate N* (who's a delivery driver) was asked to deliver a package to an address somewhere in Surrey.

So he turned up at the door of this cottage and knocked - and it was answered by none other than Bruce Foxton of The Jam / Stiff Little Fingers.

The ensuing converstaion apparently went something like this:

N*: "Bruce Foxton?"
BF: "Yes?"
N*: "Bruce...? Foxton...?"
BF: "Errrr.... yes?"
N*: "Bruce Foxton!"
BF: "Can I help you?"
N*: "But you're.... you're.... Bruce Foxton!"
BF: "Ummm.... yes, I know!"

On his return to the depot, N* was apparently asked to explain why he hadn't obtained a signature for the delivery and the only explanation he was able to offer was "He was Bruce Foxton.... Bruce Foxton? Oh, you know: Bruce Foxton!"

I believe N* got a bit of a bollocking for leaving the package without getting a signature but he still insists that his biggest regret was failing to ask Mr. Foxton to teach him how to play the bass line to "Precious".

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Philip Kramer of Iron Butterfly went on to become a rocket scientist before he disappeared.

His body (and the wreckage of his minivan) was later found at the bottom of a ravine off of Highway 23 in the Santa Monica Mountains.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link

"Justine Frischmann of Elastica has done some school teaching since 2001"
ah she ain't gotta work, isn't her dad some big-deal london real estate tycoon?

-- noizem duke (dan...), February 2nd, 2005.

We all gotta work; it's part of God's plan.

Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

the bassist for jesus jones was (and may still be) a bartender at a bar in chicago (logan square). this was pointed out to my friend and me by a drunk woman who called him over to confirm then openly mocked him for his past. we were taken aback, but apparently she was a big tipper or something, so he took it through gritted teeth.

john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link

tipper gore became mrs vice president of the USA.

(she was a drummer in an all girl band)

rumming around in botswana, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Tony Blair and John Kerry also had bands, now they've got some kind of job in politics or something.

Don Van Vliet paints too, but I don't know what his stuff sells for.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link

David Lee Roth now works as an emergency medical technician in New York.

He probably does this for bragging rights.

Big Paul Ferguson of Killing Joke is now an art restorer, specializing in pre-Islamic Afghan scupture (Ghandaran?)

Doesn't Jim Martin, ex Faith No More, now raise genetically enhanced super-sized vegetables (ala Woody Allen's "Sleeper")? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

milo went to college.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Durango is definitely a lawyer.
Brian Vollmer of Helix gives vocal lessons, advertising in a London, Ontario, urban weekly.
Zalman Yanovsky , the guitarist of the Lovin' Spoonful, owned a restaurant called Chez Piggy in Kingston, Ontario, before his death in 2002.
Peter Quaife, the original bass player for The Kinks, works as a visual artist in Belleville, Ontario.

Bruce S. Urquhart (BanjoMania), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

When I interviewed Barbara Manning a few years back she said she was going to pursue a forestry degree in Northern California. A quick scan of barbaramanning.com suggests she's doing so.

She's at Cal State Chico and spends time in her trailer out in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada mountains.

xpost: Milo is a chemistry chair (?) at the University of Delaware. I went to the same college that Milo originally went to while he was still there doing his PhD candidacy and my friend BB and I would go into his office and antagonize him to no end... hehe.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Chris Mars is a painter.

Wasn't/Isn't Greg Graffin of Bad Religion a professor at UC Berkeley?

cdwill, Thursday, 3 February 2005 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link

kyuss bassist scott reeder opened a petstore when they disbanded.

ave satani (lemike), Thursday, 3 February 2005 03:16 (sixteen years ago) link

In (I think) 1998/99, Anton Fier was doing a few days a week at the record store I used to work at in the West Village. I got an editorial gig and split. For all I know, he's still there (though this seems unlikely/impossibly depressing).

michaeln (kid loki), Thursday, 3 February 2005 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread is depressing... dreams have been shattered

firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 3 February 2005 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

For those in NYC who want to see Chris Mars' work, there's a gallery opening this Saturday which will apparently showcase some of it.

http://www.jonathanlevinegallery.com/

cdwill, Thursday, 3 February 2005 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Geordie Mick from Prolapse currently works in a box factroy making boxes for vacuum cleaners. Scottish Mick from Prolapseruns a small ceramic ornamnet shop in Oslo, while Linda Steelyard from prolpase is a jounralist for the Leicester Mercury.

Gareth steamy specs, Thursday, 3 February 2005 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Doesn't Jim Martin, ex Faith No More, now raise genetically enhanced super-sized vegetables

Amazing, if true. Just like that Bruce Dickinson story. Wow.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Thursday, 3 February 2005 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link

boston rapper mighty casey works as a school teacher.

ppp, Thursday, 3 February 2005 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link

One of Six By Seven works at our local branch of Fopp.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 3 February 2005 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread is depressing... dreams have been shattered

On the contrary, I find it inspiring, especially the many examples of those for whom a music career was just one chapter in an interesting and varied life.

briania (briania), Thursday, 3 February 2005 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I heard that David Yow from the Jesus Lizard was restoring antique furniture

Ben Dot (1977), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Daniel Johnston worked at McDonald's!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Raekwon owns a Subway restaurant, but I'm not sure if he works there despite the fact that he is a Chef.

his face was burned off in a flaming crossbow accident (King Kobra), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Stephen O'Malley of doom-metal contingents Sunn O))) and Khanate was a graphic designer at the last fucktard ad agency I worked for. He's a swell guy.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Steve Morse (Dixie Dregs, Deep Purple, etc.) worked as an airline pilot for a while, before joining Kansas.

And I think we can all agree that piloting an airplane is the more inspiring of *those* two choices.

And Pat DiNizio as an elementary Music teacher somehow strikes me as insanely cool. I'll bet the songwriters-turned-teachers list is quite long, given the number that come to mind immediately.

Paul Roub, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Pat DiNizio teaching kids music sounds insanely scary to me. He ran for NJ Senate a couple years back, he's a right wing nut.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

David Lee Roth now works as an emergency medical technician in New York.
He probably does this for bragging rights.

Roth worked the night shift in a hospital before Van Halen took off. His dad's a surgeon. Don't think he needs the money, but he's more of a "live life to the max" kinda fellow, ja?

Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

david yow (scratch acid / jesus lizard) is now a graphic design artist. he actually designed all the jesus lizard records.

todd trainer (shellac) has been selling hair products for like 15 years or something.

brian mcmahan (slint) is now an electrician.

matt talbot (hum)owns his own recording studio and is a high school football coach near champaign, il.

wayne coyne (flaming lips) worked at a long john silvers for over 10 years.

adam pfahler (jawbreaker) owns his own video store.

kristofer@sleepcomesdown.com, Thursday, 11 August 2005 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the guys from Pennywise was a substitute teacher at my friend's high school.

goodoldneon (goodoldneon), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I went to the same college that Milo originally went to while he was still there doing his PhD candidacy and my friend BB and I would go into his office and antagonize him to no end... hehe.

OH MAN, you gotta tell some stories.

Also, Deniz Tek not only became a doctor, but an emergency room surgeon in Montana. He & his wife returned to Aussie Land a coupla years ago since she missed it. He's always talked about musicians needing to keep a day job, just to maintain some connection to real life.

Mike Lutz from Brownsville Station(co-wrote "Smokin' in the Boys Room" with Cub Koda) taught me bass guitar for a coupla years. Cub Koda became a rock writer, and wrote for AMG right up until his death in 2000.

kingfish completely hatstand (Kingfish), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

The DJ for the Coup wasn't there when I saw them because she had a catering job she couldn't skip.

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Thursday, 11 August 2005 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the guys in Mudhoney is an EMT in Seattle.

kingfish completely hatstand (Kingfish), Thursday, 11 August 2005 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

4rt d1furi14 of the ph0t0n b4nd is working on a phd in art history at UD as well. i wonder if he knows milo!

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 12 August 2005 09:20 (sixteen years ago) link

no recollection of starting this.

so freakee when that happens. oddly i now live bang opposite the house that john mcgeogh (mentioned upthread) used to live in, in whalley range. small world etc.

piscesboy, Friday, 12 August 2005 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Lean on Me Construction:

You won't WITHER when you get the BILL!

-- Hurting (Hurtingchie...), February 1st, 2005.

I had a good chuckle readint this again ...

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 12 August 2005 11:11 (sixteen years ago) link

"wayne coyne (flaming lips) worked at a long john silvers for over 10 years."

and still does, for kicks! its the smile on the kids' faces when he sells them popcorn shrimp that brings him back at least once a year.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:04 (sixteen years ago) link

The B52's Kate Pearson has a motel.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Pumpkin from Guv'ner started a line of hip maternity clothing and then became a pediatrics nurse at the hospital down the street from my house. I've met her a few times- she's pretty nice.

You're laughing at your own jokes, Josh?

k/l (Ken L), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link

stanm: yeah, but she really doesnt work there. at least thats what ive gathered from the press about the place.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

He's always talked about musicians needing to keep a day job, just to maintain some connection to real life.

There's a lot of wisdom in this comment. I think a lot of people would have a hard time doing *nothing* after becoming famous, especially if (as most of the folks above) they never hit the A-List anyway.

I always think about Andy Kaufman, who at the height of his fame worked at Cantor's Deli and was apparently a good, conscientious worker.

mike a, Friday, 12 August 2005 13:15 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a lot of wisdom in this comment. I think a lot of people would have a hard time doing *nothing* after becoming famous, especially if (as most of the folks above) they never hit the A-List anyway.

There was a quote from Cliff Richard in the Times a while ago, in an article about (and whole-heartedly in favour of) extending copyright, in which he bemoaned the fact that some poor old musicians who'd had a single hit many decades ago could no longer earn a living off the royalties. Get a job!

ledge (ledge), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Bruce Dickinson is an airline pilot. Don't think he needs the money.

Eddie Spaghetti, Friday, 12 August 2005 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Fred from the B-52's has/had a furniture/design business

dan. (dan.), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

maria:

this thread is depressing... dreams have been shattered

-- firstworldman ( ), February 3rd, 2005 4:45 AM.

again.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I always think about Andy Kaufman, who at the height of his fame worked at Cantor's Deli and was apparently a good, conscientious worker.

yeah, he was a busboy. he talked about doing it to prove (to himself, probably) that "i'm no better than them."

kingfish completely hatstand (Kingfish), Friday, 12 August 2005 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link

the drummer from metal church works at the ace hardware store in olympia, washington (i know this because i worked there too, and on his application, he wrote under previous job "drummer for metal church").

Jillian Boyik, Monday, 15 August 2005 08:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Raekwon owns a Subway restaurant, but I'm not sure if he works there despite the fact that he is a Chef.

Can anyone substantiate this? (That he owns a subway, not that he is a chef...) Maybe if Kanye's around he'll know...

jcartledge (jcartledge), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link

> Bruce Dickinson is an airline pilot. Don't think he needs the money.

Perhaps he doesn't need the money but simply enjoys the work. I don't share the assumption that s.o. would be daft to have a day-job (however 'humble') if they didn't need the money. Work *can* be healthy. Unemployment (in my experience) usually isn't, + not only for financial reasons.

Inspiral Carpets singer ?? worked in Tele-marketing a while ago.

stevo (stevo), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 03:47 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
The bass player with The Head Butts is now a web designer/carpenter. I doubt anyone's heard 'em but he's a mate so let's add him to the list.

tolstoy (tolstoy), Sunday, 11 September 2005 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

MC 900 Foot Jesus (remember him?) was working on his commercial pilot's license last I heard (a few years ago.)

Jim Marcus, one of the guys from Die Warzau (early 90's industrial/dance band) was doing programming (Y2k/COBOL stuff) last I heard in 1997.

dark_s, Sunday, 11 September 2005 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Bill from the Churchkeys still gives me blowjobs whenever I want. Just like the old days.

Billy The Miller, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link

joel (tamborine guy with the muttonchops) from the brian jonestown massacre used to work at a record store in santa cruz--in 2000 or so.

eric, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:25 (sixteen years ago) link

DJ Nobody and Ikey Owens from Mars Volta both still work at the Fingerprints record shop in Long Beach, CA. Also many guys in the L.A. free jazz scene do everything from teaching high school to operating a tile kiln.

Legendary bassist Henry Grimes stopped playing music completely for many years and worked in construction and as a janitor. He's playing bass again though now...

schlarb, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Duff from GnR went back to school and got a degree in finance.
Adam Duritz of Counting Crows still tends bar at the Viper Room in LA from time to time.

matthew Vetter, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Kevin Fitzpatrick, drummer from Something Vertigo, is now a dentist in Carlsbad.

Bill Simmons, Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link

When I was producing a short film in London I was aided by the manager of a charity shop who claimed to have been in Level 42. They donated lots of wardrobe items to our cause.

My friend Alan claims to have played sax with Pop Group but I've never seen his name connected with the band. I adore him too much to prove him wrong.

Thea (Thea), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Denny Carmassi drummer for Montrose & Heart, can usually be found dealing blow at the Rainbow 9015 W. Sunset LA. just ask a waitress he's usually in a booth back by the bathrooms

Yale Bloor, Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link

joel (tamborine guy with the muttonchops) from the brian jonestown massacre used to work at a record store in santa cruz--in 2000 or so.

-- eric (ericfetterman200...), September 21st, 2005.

Last I heard (earlier this year), he's working with a friend of mine at a noatable record shop on Haight in SF

Wite eyebrow, Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:14 (sixteen years ago) link

So, what happened to Adorable, then?

# Pete: Lead Singer in Polak (worked in a second hand book shop in Brighton as well)
# Robert: Getting into computer networks.
# Kevin: Math Teacher in Bodmin Community College, but I hear that he's going to Truro(?).
# Wil: Teacher

Sunburnt, Thursday, 22 September 2005 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

joel (tamborine guy with the muttonchops) from the brian jonestown massacre used to work at a record store in santa cruz--in 2000 or so.

-- eric (ericfetterman200...), September 21st, 2005.

now he works at the Amoeba in San Francisco

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Thursday, 22 September 2005 03:33 (sixteen years ago) link

the singer from the band failure pumps my gas.

stuck on yooooooooou till the end of tiiiiiiime

dennis davis, Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I went to a resurant/bar in phenom phen, cambodia, owned by one of the goo goo dolls.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link

rock stars who went back work.

Fact is, almost all of them. If you're in a band and you're not the songwriter, and you decide you're not going to tour endlessly as a hasbeen, you're going back to work. Songwriters get royalties, and may be able to live off them if they had a big enough hit. The other musicians only get paid as long as they're playing - when they stop, that's it. That TV show Hit Me Baby One More Time was great - showing the likes of Loverboy at their day jobs. Some musicians transition to sidemen/session musician/teaching or music industry careers, but the rest are on the payroll.

Rob Van Winkle (AKA Vanilla Ice) - mananger of a convenience store
Tim Cronin (Monster Magnet) - longtime fixture at Jack's Music Shop in Red Bank NJ
Tod A (Cop Shoot Cop, Firewater) - graphic designer at Rolling Stone
Lyle Preslar (Minor Threat) - A&R rep
Kira (Black Flag) - computer programmer

the singer from the band failure pumps my gas.
Self-fulfilling prophecy?

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Billy the Miller: Wow, I went to high school with Bill from the Churchkeys...next time he's giving you a blowjob, tell him I said "hi."

Ron Sexsmith used to be a messenger in Toronto, on foot. (He doesn't drive). He told me he was delivering a package to a business there that had a return address in Lebanon, TN, which gave him the idea for that song on his first record.

wendyo, Friday, 23 September 2005 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Me!

Cristal Waters (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 September 2005 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

When were you a star, Adam?

k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Manfred Mann's lead singer Paul Jones now works presenting a Christian TV channel.

Andy Dexter, Friday, 23 September 2005 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Elvis Costello had a job as a computer operator in an Elizabeth Arden make-up factory.... "Spent all my time in a vanity factory, wondering when they're going to come and take it all back..."

George Dick, Friday, 23 September 2005 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Thomas Dolby did the Silicon Valley entreperneurial thing. He had a company called Headspace, now called Beatnik. They tried to do a bunch of things, but mostly they made bank on selling an audio engine to cell phone companies (inc. Nokia I believe).

He left Beatnik a few years ago to start some cellphone ringtone company.

mikef (mfleming), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link

"I think Hugo Burnham went on to record exec stuff of some sort, but I think the thread is better if we don't concentrate on people who moved into an entertainment corporation."

Nope. Hugo Burnham teaches at the Brookline Art Institute here in Boston.

Until very recently, Marty Crandall from the Shins worked at Bow Wow Records in Albuquerque. I bought many an album from him over the years.

stewartflamingo, Friday, 23 September 2005 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Rat Scabies (drummer of the Damned) is following in his father's footsteps & searching for the (actual) Holy Grail. and writing a book about it, presumably

autovac (autovac), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Already been written: RAT SCABIES AND THE HOLY GRAIL by Christopher Dawes (Thunder's Mouth Press, 2005)

me, Friday, 23 September 2005 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Archie Moore (guitarist, Velocity Girl) works as a recording engineer at a Studio in the Washington, DC suburbs.

Which is probably every band member's dream.

!@, Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

exene cervenka is a school librarian at (i believe) that rich 'progressive' high school in santa monica.

kinda hot, actually.

the, Saturday, 24 September 2005 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link

The guitarist from night ranger was painting houses in the SF east bay...

the, Saturday, 24 September 2005 04:50 (sixteen years ago) link

another british computer operator: paul atkinson (zombies guitarist)

they used to say that if you drive a jaguar, you need a mechanic riding in the boot.

british computers must have been similar, that's a lot of operators.

the, Saturday, 24 September 2005 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Mato Valtonen, the lead man of Leningrad Cowboys, had as mobile phone appliance firm back in the days of the big information technology boom. Then, when the bubble broke, his firm went down and he took a job as a rollercoaster cart driver.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 05:16 (sixteen years ago) link

No doubt everyone here already knows this, but googling "Jon King" "World Television" yields some startling results for the unreconstructed post-marxist / post-situationist Gang of Four fan, though apparently Jon resigned recently in favor of beating up microwave ovens and establishing some sort of media business consultancy.

The document contains no data., Saturday, 24 September 2005 05:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Mato Valtonen, the lead man of Leningrad Cowboys, had as mobile phone appliance firm back in the days of the big information technology boom. Then, when the bubble broke, his firm went down and he took a job as a rollercoaster cart driver.

This sounds almost too Aki Kaurismaki!

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 11:56 (sixteen years ago) link

NB This thread has been outed on Salon

Yakitori Bob (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link

???

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 12:04 (sixteen years ago) link

This sounds almost too Aki Kaurismaki!

It's true, though I'm not sure whether he took the rollercoaster job for financial reasons or for something else. I guess you're right about the Kaurismäki thing, except that Kaurismäki would never make a film with mobile phones in it. Valtonen recently did a comeback tour with his first band, Sleepy Sleepers, but that was just one-shot, I'm not sure what he's doing now.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 12:07 (sixteen years ago) link

When I was in college in the late eighties, I remember seeing one of the members of Eleventh Dream Day working in a Chicago record store. It was right then and there I saw the light that recording for a major label didn't give you a license to quit your day job. Even at 20-21 years old, I knew that the indie-level bands had some other source of income besides music, but 11DD were on Atlantic Records at the time - home of Phil Collins and Debbie Gibson! But, they weren't making Phil or Debbie's $$$, so...

I should add that working at the record store was nothing to be 'shamed of; I just figured that because of Atlantic, the guy wouldn't have to work retail any mo'.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 24 September 2005 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Kaurismäki would never make a film with mobile phones in it.

Why not? Aesthetic or ideological reasons?

I love that he didn't come to the last NY Film Festival out of solidarity with Abbas Kiarostami, who, being Iranian, didn't get a visa.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I interviewed for a web designer job in Atlanta with the drummer from Faster Pussycat. Didn't get the gig, but I think the company (a dot com in the early 2000s) dried up. He was very friendly and LA sparkly, and told me how he was dabbling in death metal/industrial.

John Curley of the Afghan Whigs owns a recording studio in Cincinnati (Ultrasuede), and also does web design, with his wife.

Steve Libbey, Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Thomas Dolby did the Silicon Valley entreperneurial thing. He had a company called Headspace, now called Beatnik. They tried to do a bunch of things, but mostly they made bank on selling an audio engine to cell phone companies (inc. Nokia I believe).

He left Beatnik a few years ago to start some cellphone ringtone company.

-- mikef (mflemin...), September 23rd, 2005.

totally confirmed. a friend of mine here in SF works for a ringtone company called Moderati, and they deal with Thomas all the time.

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Saturday, 24 September 2005 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Bob from the Juliana Theory worked at the FYE music store at the Westmoreland Mall in Greensburg, PA, when i was in college in Latrobe. it was right when the JT were supposed to have been taking off - so he left the FYE gig for bigger/better pastures with the JT.

in Pittsburgh, they were the shit - but i don't know just how big they really got elsewhere.

but i bought a couple of CD's off of him. nice enough guy.

JoeOverdrive, Saturday, 24 September 2005 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

"I think Hugo Burnham went on to record exec stuff of some sort, but I think the thread is better if we don't concentrate on people who moved into an entertainment corporation."

Nope. Hugo Burnham teaches at the Brookline Art Institute here in Boston.

But before that he did A&R for Imago Records. In fact, he was my friend's band's A&R guy. When he got fired, they got dropped.

Hunter Lyle (Lyle), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

an old co-worker used to get her taxes done by (i think) the drummer from the circle jerks.

I've heard that too, only it's not the drummer, it's their bass player circa Golden Showe of Hits (whose name escapes me).

If your co-worker got her taxes done by Roger Rogerson, she's got serious problems because a) he's been dead for 10 years and, b) before that, he was a raving drunk. Keith Clark, the drummer from the Circle Jerks is the accountant. The Circle Jerks' original drummer, Lucky Lehrer, took over his family's optical supply business and is now a gazillionaire. His brother Chett, of Wasted Youth fame, is company VP.

John Kezdy of The Effigies is a prosecutor in Illinois.

Hunter Lyle (Lyle), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link

so how do 90% of musos mentioned on this thread qualify as "rock stars"?? duh, a guy who sent me a promo 10 years ago is no longer wasting my time or his money. And no longer having to play background music for drunks, forebrain music for headz.

don, Saturday, 24 September 2005 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Not to say that they were wrong to try the music biz. shut up self.

don, Sunday, 25 September 2005 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

In 1997, while in treatment for addiction, my aftercare counselor was Paul Williams. When Paul left he was replaced by Terry Kirkman of The Association.

jdblue, Sunday, 25 September 2005 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Richard Lloyd gives guitar lessons, $50 an hour, taught a friend of mine. Hell, I'd pay $50 just to do the Marquee Moon intro with him...

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Sunday, 25 September 2005 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

`Archie Moore (guitarist, Velocity Girl) works as a recording engineer at a Studio in the Washington, DC suburbs.`

This is true, but it`s actually a commercial music production house; I used to work for the same company. `A musician`s dream` it was not.

Also...
David William Sims (Scratch Acid/Rapeman/Jesus Lizard) is an accountant.
From Lungfish, Daniel Higgs works as a tattoo artist and the drummer is an administrator at a hospital.
During his self-imposed isolation, Kevin Shields made ends meet by selling backstock vinyl of My Bloody Valentine`s pre-Creation albums directly to stores.
Greg Dulli owns a bar in Hollywood.
Tim Harrington (Les Savy Fav) makes handmade housewares with his wife.
Yes, Jim Martin (Faith No More) grows giant mutant pumpkins.

Seb R, Monday, 26 September 2005 05:33 (sixteen years ago) link

someone told me one of the dudes from Da Lench Mob is a janitor in a junior high somewhere in southern california

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Kevin Shields made ends meet by selling backstock vinyl of My Bloody Valentine`s pre-Creation albums directly to stores.

all of a sudden, several things make sense

jimmy glass (electricsound), Monday, 26 September 2005 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link

From the Loud Family

Scott Miller is a computer programmer.

Alison Faith Levy manages a Barnes & Noble.

Gil Ray works for a record distributor.

Not sure what Kenny Kessel is up to; maybe programming as well.

kinsey milkbone, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Ed Sanders of The Fugs taught for awhile at B@rd College in the early 80s. His flagship course was "Cultural Reportage."

Abby Cat, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Greg Dulli owns a bar in Hollywood.

Well, this is about the least-surprising news that I've heard all day.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Frank Kogan said that when he worked at Baskin & Robbins (or was it when he and Luc Sante and Jody Harris of Contortions/Blacks worked at the Strand?), Sonic Youth worked across the street, at Kinko's, I think. But he/they were too shy to say hi, though both playing some of same places, or anyway neighborhoods. (Frank was in several groups, like the Pillowmakers, and Red Dark Sweet, before the latter's Charlotte Pressler and Andrew Klimek moved back to Cleveland; think Charlotte does something academic now.)Oh yea, lots of music teachers: see ads in Voice!

don, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

The bass player from Jesus Jones (Alan something or other) is now the bass player in the Waco Brothers, which is fronted by Jon Langford. Everytime I've seen them Jon teases him about Jesus Jones, so I can't imagine he minds too much.

David Lee Roth is taking over Howard Stern's slot on K-Rock in NYC when Howard moves to Sirius.

I've stayed at Kate Pierson's motel. Fun and Kitschy. It's in the Catskills.

I heard one of the guys from Flowered Up was selling records in a stall in the Camden Lock.

Larry Graham (Graham Central Station) goes door to door with Prince as an evangelizing Jehovah's Witness.

Nick S., Monday, 26 September 2005 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

that petkovic guy from Cobra verde has been writing for Cleveland papers for a while. one of the other guys in the band, the keyboard player, teaches a history of rock class at Cleveland State. my girlfriend used to work with the aforementioned guy from the Dead Milkmen, at a borders coffeeshop.

MtStPat, Monday, 26 September 2005 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Austin update:

Adam Sultan of Poi Dog Pondering works as help desk operator at Apple Computer.

From the Reivers, John Croslin works at the University of Texas, Kim Longacre teaches at a Montessori school, and Cindy Toth works at a used bookstore.

Michael Hall of the Wild Seeds (and his own solo career) is a staff writer at Texas Monthly magazine. His longtime guitarist Randy Franklin (Standing Waves, F-Systems, Loose Diamonds) runs a folk-art gallery called Yard Dog.

FYI (those who care): Biscuit of the Big Boys died a couple of weeks ago.

Viscount Slim, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Does Adam still have that job? I thought he quit.

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Anne Eickelberg from Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 is now a real estate agent here in Portland.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Thom of Savage Republic is a coffee roaster in Claremont, CA.

Roy Montgomery is a English professor in NZ.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

MC Hammer became a preacher in Tracy, California.

Dave Buster, Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

David William Sims (Scratch Acid/Rapeman/Jesus Lizard) is an accountant.

yeah, i have his business card, even.

Ed Sanders of The Fugs taught for awhile at B@rd College in the early 80s. His flagship course was "Cultural Reportage."

oh wow, didn't know that. i took that course, but in the mid-90s, long after sanders was gone.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Andy West (the rather amazing bass player from the Dixie Dregs) supposedly went back to doing software.

Ike Ahnoklast, Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Ron Devoe of Bel Biv DeVoe is a Real Estate agent in Atlanta.

http://www.thedevoeteam.com/engine/home/standard/500/en/6631/

iffy, Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I was working in a theatre in Glasgow in the mid-90's where Fay Fife from the Rezillos/Revillos performed a very serious one-woman play under her real name. It was a pretty good play but poorly attended. Shortly afterwards the Revillos reformed.

everything, Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

After the Jam and the Stlye Council, Paul Weller went back to being a full-time prick.

Smithers Jones, Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I have a couple of friends who took guitar lessons from Phish guitarist Trey Anastasio. It was before they were signed by Elektra but after they were already a huge touring phenomenon. One friend still has all of Trey's pencil-written notes from those classes. He could probably get a lot for them on ebay now. Some choice quotes form guitar teacher Trey: "tritone is key" and "the 5 chord is mobile."

--Bill Simmon
www.candleboy.com/candleblog/

Bill Simmon, Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Speaking of Velocity Girl, Jim (the drummer) was a location/production director (or something of the sort) for CNN in DC. That was 3-4 years ago.

Jawbox guitarist Bill Bardot is part owner of DC design studio, Threespot.

Wife Kim Colleta was getting her Library Science degree from Catholic U.

D-Plan drummer Joe Easley was last heard going back to school to finish his Aerospace Engineering degree.

Frodus drummer Jason Hammacher is a part-time massage therapist, freelance photographer, & writer.

j o h n, Thursday, 29 September 2005 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Anthony Bramante, the guitar player from Nuclear Assault drives a US Postal truck.

Keith Alexander from Carnivore was working in piercings/body modifications before becoming a software guru. Sadly he died this summer in a bicycling accident.

JC1999, Thursday, 29 September 2005 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Scott Miller from Game Theroy and The Loud Family has kept his day job as a programmer in San Fran. I bet he is a great programmer.

raytube, Friday, 30 September 2005 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Country Joe and the Fish guitarist Barry Melton has been the Public Defender for Monterey California for quite a while.

Tommy, Friday, 30 September 2005 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know if anybody outside of Canada remembers the Forgotten Rebels, but frontman Mickey DeSadist works in a factory making catalytic converters.

Dadmobile (Dadmobile), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Edison from trip-hop pioneers Earthling was temping in a market research call centre in 2001. Who knows what he's doing now...

err..., Friday, 30 September 2005 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

william henshall is the guy from londonbeat, and he wrote the song "I've been thinking about you"

Now he is a photographer http://www.williamhenshall.com

i'm.me, Monday, 3 October 2005 09:26 (sixteen years ago) link

On Friday night in san francisco, i found Philip Manley of Trans Am working as a roadie for Acid Mothers Temple

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Kim Mithcell, who was once a huge star in Canada, having fronted the heavy rock band Max Webster in the 1970's and then going solo and having a string of hit albums in the 1980's is now a lowly daytime dj at Q107 in Toronto playing old classic rock and other hoser bands. He even sneaks in tunes from his own albums whenever he gets a chance, lame, it doesn't get much lower than that.

sumguy, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

he is a wild party!

ken taylrr has gone off the internet because of you (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link

If MC 900 Foot Jesus got a pilot's license, I guess he didn't get a good job, because last time I run into him, we were driving away from an Air concert, and I noticed a clunky on-the-verge-of-death Daihatsu Rocky. Then I noticed Mark Griffin was driving and started shouting at him. He had a great sense of humor about it. Didn't get to ask if there would ever be another album. He had done some local shows maybe in 2001 or so and said at the time he'd like to do another album, but then... nothing. :|

Andrew Hime, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Speaking of Velocity Girl, Jim (the drummer) was a location/production director (or something of the sort) for CNN in DC. That was 3-4 years ago.

Then he was the same Jim Spellman cruising around New Orleans last month giving street details. Hopefully the spark for a flood-themed reunion album.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

todd brashear owns a video store

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Roger Powell, keyboardist for Utopia with Todd Rundgren, is working as a software developer after developing carpal tunnel syndrome. I believe I heard where Willie Wilcox, drummer for the same band, is working with Roger at the same company.

Keith Lake, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Paula Abdul was a pop superstar in the early 90's, and now she is a judge on that piece of crap culture ruining American Idol (aka karaoke challenge) now, somebody top that when it comes to 'sinking' to new lows lol!

harry, Thursday, 6 October 2005 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link

John Kerry played in the The Electra's.

Poised for a big deal with Capitol Records the band's deal was thwarted by the myopic Kerry's side gig desires for war hero, senator and presidential canidate.

pat aspat, Saturday, 8 October 2005 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Heh. Yes I am indeed that bloke, you know the white guy, from Londonbeat, who had that song "I've been thinking about you" - I live and work in Los Angeles as a professional photographer. After I quit the band in 95 I started a software company called Rocket Network that developed a system that ships large media files securely and quickly across the internet. I sold the company to Avid in 2003. Didn't get rich but got out of high tech to follow my love of photography...

This is an interesting thread overall. Speaking as one who had a few minutes in the spot light in the early 90s, I have found that life after being in a band is great. You have to sacrifice so much of your own life and friend and family relationships to get a real career going that keeping a balance of real life and chasing the music dream becomes inpossible to keep. I got no regrets...but I am glad I don't live out of a suitcase anymore. Here's some more stuff about my work www.rockstarphoto.us

william henshall, Monday, 31 October 2005 10:49 (fifteen years ago) link

not sure if this counts, but the drummer from Flock of Seagulls used to work on the manufacturing floor of my workplace.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link

after being in the band that is.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Earl Brutus' Nick Sanderson is reportedly working as a train driver...

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Swedish singer Jakob Hellman went to work in a breadpacking factory after his succesful debutalbum.

Johanna K, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Andy Spearpoint (formerly of New Fast Automatic Daffodils) now runs percussion workshops for schools in West Yorkshire.

Niall, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I was NEVER an A&R person. That was a Steve ("God Bless Him") Albini construct to help him seem important.

I did help run some 'cool' record companies, like Caroline. I walked away as the industry fell off the cliff -- hell, they didn't want me anyway.

Now I'm a 2nd year law student, hoping to one day help out some artists and others in the new world we live in.

Lyle Preslar, Thursday, 10 November 2005 08:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Lori Barbero of the Minneapolis based Babes in Toyland was a waitress at the Modern Cafe. Don't know if she's still there tho, I haven't been in a while.

todd
________________________
www.homestudiotips.com

Todd Fugere, Saturday, 12 November 2005 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

as far as i know speedy j is a graphic designer
i also heard he lives in a house in the shape of a cube resting on one of its points

robin (robin), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:35 (fifteen years ago) link

donald trump delivers my mail in the morning,and i don't even tip him

robin (robin), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Sarah Shannon of Velocity Girl is finishing up her second release. Currently, I heard she's label shopping with it.(www.sarahshannon.com)

I too have heard Jim Spellman is at CNN and Archie's at a DC studio.

Kelly and Brian of V-girl are at the Washington City Paper I think....

Still waiting on the V-girl reunion album....It's hard to believe with the myspace explosion and internet adv. that the V-girl fans out there wouldn't unite to pay some $ for it... :)

poor artist, Friday, 18 November 2005 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I was NEVER an A&R person. That was a Steve ("God Bless Him") Albini construct to help him seem important.
I did help run some 'cool' record companies, like Caroline. I walked away as the industry fell off the cliff -- hell, they didn't want me anyway.

Now I'm a 2nd year law student, hoping to one day help out some artists and others in the new world we live in.

-- Lyle Preslar (lyle.presla...), November 10th, 2005.

Sorry, my bad.

This thread just got ten times cooler, though.

Edward III (edward iii), Saturday, 19 November 2005 03:52 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I know Andrew Mcleay - the bass guitarist for top Melbourne band "The Link" from the very late 80's is a stay at home dad while his wife works as a financial controller. I say bring that band back!

lenni sarugan, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

FM Cornog (better known as East River Pipe) works at Home Depot.

michael g. breece, Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

That Speedy J cube house rumor is correct, he lives in one of these in Overblaak, Rotterdam:

http://travel.u.nu/pic/nl/overblaak.jpg

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Damn, I was seeing those buildings *minutes ago* in a Jackie Chan movie...

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Martin Atkins teaches a course in touring in a college in Chicago. I think he wrote his own wikipedia entry.

hector (hector), Friday, 9 December 2005 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Fascinating thread.

From the Loud Family: Scott Miller is a computer programmer.

...and working on a new album, I hear, despite swearing off the biz a few years back.

Ed's Redeeming Qualities: Dan Leone became a food critic. Carrie Bradley started working for a graphic design company after her tenure in the Breeders.

Vudi from American Music Club also did the taxi-driver gig, I believe.

To follow-up far upthread, Don Van Vliet's paintings go for a rather large stack of nickels, yes.

Laurie Anderson claims to have worked at a McDonald's in NYC recently, but it was undoubtedly for more of a conceptual/storytelling purpose as usual. I would have paid large sums of money to sit in on that job interview, though.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Friday, 9 December 2005 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link


the dudes from the punk band 7 Seconds all have day jobs, I'm pretty sure. I know Kevin (singer) owns a cafe (True Love Cafe) in Northrn California with his wife and hosts a punk show at a radio station. Steve Youth (bassist) is a liquor distributor for nightclubs in the Reno area. Troy (drummer) owns a landscaping company. Bobby (guitarist) owns a limo company.

Criztopher, Monday, 12 December 2005 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Vudi from American Music Club may have driven a taxi, but I am fairly sure he is a currently a Metro bus driver in Los Angeles.

r3000, Monday, 12 December 2005 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Chris Richards from Q and Not U writes for the Washington Post

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

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Gregory639, Friday, 12 May 2006 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Bill Janovitz from Buffalo Tom is (or has been) a real estate agent, I read somewhere.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Neal Smith, original drummer (and "platinum god") in Alice Cooper, is a real estate agent in Connecticut...

Larry "Mr . Fingers" Heard quit music to go into computer programming...(I hear he's back, though)...

and somebody mentioned Don Van Vliet, aka Captain Beefheart...yeah, his music wasn't selling so he had to go into visual art to make ends meet...

hank (hank s), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

When I was in college in the late eighties, I remember seeing one of the members of Eleventh Dream Day working in a Chicago record store. It was right then and there I saw the light that recording for a major label didn't give you a license to quit your day job. Even at 20-21 years old, I knew that the indie-level bands had some other source of income besides music, but 11DD were on Atlantic Records at the time - home of Phil Collins and Debbie Gibson! But, they weren't making Phil or Debbie's $$$, so...

yessir, empire records on...cicero, i think it was. met rick rizzo there in 1992. had the exact same reaction.

Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

There's nothing (in my searches) to corroborate the Topper Headon taxi driver story though.

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 12 May 2006 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

There are a few threads about Arthur "Killer" Kane. Real human interest stuff. Every few months I fall off the wagon and post sentimental garbage, and Killer Kane comes up every time.

O-Keigh (O-Keigh), Friday, 12 May 2006 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Apparently, Leila K., known for her "Got To Get" hit with Rob'n'Raz back in 1990, is now a prostitute in Stockholm.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 12 May 2006 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Ach, Geir, yee're me only salvation, b'I'm a quartet wooorse'n any'wheeedlin' whoooor 'at yoo've got'r'oond.!?

Hoch-le-roi.

O-Keigh (O-Keigh), Saturday, 13 May 2006 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Barry Melton, lead guitarist from 60's Band "Country Joe and the Fish" became a California state judge after the band broke up.

jamie, Friday, 26 May 2006 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
david yow (scratch acid / jesus lizard) is now a graphic design artist.
Here are some of the funny/interesting details:
I drew the ice board that the character Frozone from The Incredibles is riding on the billboards and bus signs etc., I worked on the billboards for Madagascar, Chicken Little, The Bogey Man, etc. I've done a shit-load of DVD covers, among them, Garfield, The Movie; Monk . . . yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah and so on...
From: What David Yow has been up to...

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Dr. Tory Crimes, Chiropractor

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Saturday, 2 September 2006 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Dang, I probably could have thought of a decent "back work" joke there.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Saturday, 2 September 2006 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

After one ill-advised album in 1985, Eddie Murphy want back to work as a comedian. Wise move (even though he was a lot funnier in 1985 than he is now)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 2 September 2006 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

David Yow doing DVD covers for children's movies is kind of awesome.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 2 September 2006 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
the punch-line to it all this, is that it turns out
(according to 'REMarks/REMade') that peter buck was paid *in vinyl* and he was only doing it to stave off post-tour boredom. so the story goes.

pisces (piscesx), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Hang on, Bruce Springsteen selling furniture, 8 posts up from here?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
jeff "skunk" baxter of the doobie brothers consults the pentagon on weapons systems after researching and writing a paper that got noticed (god i despise this country as it is today...)

Boz Skaggs had a restaurant on Union St. in San Francisco and I walked past a lot...one time he was there changing light bulbs over the entrance...

JOHN HANLEY (suddenfun), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Karl Precoda, ex-Dream Syndicate guitarist, occasional Last Days Of May mainman and 2005 Virginia Tech teacher award winner

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Les Pattinson of Echo & The Bunnymen is now a boat builder

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Ex-YMG/Weekender Alison Statton is a chiropractor, too. I think she and Tory Crimes should form a practice specializing in fiftysomething ex-punks.

mike a, Friday, 11 May 2007 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Guy Kyser of Thin White Rope, something of a household god of mine, has worked for years in botanical science at UC Davis. Ay dios mio I miss him!

Matthew Seligman, bassist from Soft Boys, Thomas Dolby, Thompson Twins etc etc etc, is yet another one who became a lawyer (breaking briefly for the SB reunion).

Tony Maimone runs a studio down the street from my apartment. I felt like such a nerd for being impressed when I heard that.

Jon Lewis, Friday, 11 May 2007 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link

David Fair of Half Japanese works at my local public library. If you're lucky, you can spot him doing 'story time' for the kids.

circa1916, Friday, 11 May 2007 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Too Much Joy:
Tim Quirk is VP, Music Content and Programming for Real Networks.
Jay Blumenfeld produced a Ted Nugent reality show
Tommy Vinton just retired from the NYPD

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 11 May 2007 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Eddie Phillips from The Creation worked as a London bus driver.

goldmatt, Friday, 11 May 2007 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Doesn't Arthur Baker run a restaurant in London now?

Matt #2, Friday, 11 May 2007 23:07 (fourteen years ago) link

last night on Food Network, I saw Bobby Flay go head to head in a cupcake-making competition with a member of the early-90s SFTRI punk band Red Aunts. They made a big deal about how she was a punk rocker, now famous for her restaurants red velvet cupcakes.

My daughter was impressed that I owned one of her records.

What is it with this cupcake meme? I keep hearing about hipster joints that specialize in cupcakes

bendy, Friday, 11 May 2007 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Patrick Fitzgerald (ex Kitchens of Disctinction) now has a day job again according to his website..

Mark Eitzel has a job doing something with computers...

Jack Battery-Pack, Saturday, 12 May 2007 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone know where to find discount furniture?

StanM, Saturday, 12 May 2007 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

awesome
http://www.thedevoeteam.com/

zappi, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

A+

g®▲đұ, Saturday, 2 June 2007 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

can someone clever but 'to' in the title between 'back' and 'work'?

pisces, Sunday, 3 June 2007 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Victor Krummenacher of Camper Van Beethoven:
Welcome to my day job.

For the last 15 years, I've been heavily involved in graphic design, when music doesn't pay the mortgage, this does. I've worked as the Art Director for the San Francisco Bay Guardian, as a page designer for Wired Magazine and as a freelance graphic designer for dozens of clients doing everything from CD design to advertisements to publication redesign.

Mike Dixn, Thursday, 27 September 2007 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Eric Bachmann of Archers of Loaf sells Cuban sandwiches in Denver

Jake Brown, Thursday, 27 September 2007 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

A few years back I remember seeing one of the members of ...and you will know us by the trail of dead working at a record store in Austin, specifically 33 degrees.

Also, Cuban sandwiches kick major ass and as such selling them is an honorable and praiseworthy trade.

l, Thursday, 27 September 2007 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been listening to Joe Escalante of the Vandals on Indie 103 in LA for a couple years now, it seems. Also Steve Jones (the Steve Jones) has a one-hour daily stint there.

nickn, Friday, 28 September 2007 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, Joe was an entertainment biz lawyer for a while. He does a legal advice call-in once a week.

nickn, Friday, 28 September 2007 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

"When I was in college in the late eighties, I remember seeing one of the members of Eleventh Dream Day working in a Chicago record store. It was right then and there I saw the light that recording for a major label didn't give you a license to quit your day job. Even at 20-21 years old, I knew that the indie-level bands had some other source of income besides music, but 11DD were on Atlantic Records at the time - home of Phil Collins and Debbie Gibson! But, they weren't making Phil or Debbie's $$$, so..."

"yessir, empire records on...cicero, i think it was. met rick rizzo there in 1992. had the exact same reaction."

The store I was implying was actually the long-defunct-and-much-missed Round Records on Sheridan, and 11DD's Baird Figi worked there in the late eighties and early nineties. Only now finding out that Rizzo worked at Empire.

Rev. Hoodoo, Friday, 28 September 2007 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

holy crap! i used to live around the corner from round records in '90-'91. went there all the time. had i recognized baird figi i'm sure my mind would have been similarly blown (as it was, it was another year until i ran into rizzo at empire for the mindblowing).

Lawrence the Looter, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Janet Bean of EDD was working at Blackout Records on Southport (near the Music Box, was Pravda store at one point) in 1993. She accused me of stealing magazines, but I had just walked out with a Reader, which is free.
Rizzo was bartending at the Rainbo a few years ago, and maybe he still does. I don't go to too many bars any more.

Mike Dixn, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Eric Bachmann of Archers of Loaf sells Cuban sandwiches in Denver

-- Jake Brown, Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:13 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Slicer of Loaf

latebloomer, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Mr Jeff Dimpsey, bassist for '90s feedback-y rockers Hum who had the catchy song "Stars" among others, has a tech-y computer related job here at the University of Texas, where I go to class.

stephen, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

also, can't believe this hasn't been mentioned here:

Pitchfork: Learn Guitar From Mission Of Burma's Roger Miller!
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/44102-learn-guitar-from-mission-of-burmas-roger-miller

stephen, Friday, 28 September 2007 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

This is a good thread.

roxymuzak, Friday, 28 September 2007 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Tim Quirk of Too Much Joy is now a Rhapsody executive.

Jake Brown, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

... and I too find Cuban sandwiches tasty and Archers of Loaf rocking.

Jake Brown, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Tim Kerr of the Big Boys, producer and many other long-named bands works in a library at the University of Texas.

Misery, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

dammit, xpost.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 28 September 2007 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

kurt cobain *in between BLEACH and NEVERMIND* tried to start up a cleaning business called PINE STREET CLEANING. i just learned this on THE LAST 48 HOURS OF... bbc tv show. there's that weird sub-section of rock stars who went back to work; those who went back to work after recording a record or records but *just before they went huge*. this has got to be the best example i've heard of. even edges out lou reed working in his dad's company in between the end of the velvets and TRANSFORMER.

piscesx, Monday, 13 October 2008 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

When Turbonegro broke up in 1998, singer Hank von Helvete went to work as a caretaker in a whaling museum in Norway.

He spent (wasted) a large part of those four years on the street as a drug addict though.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 13 October 2008 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link

john strohm of blake babies/lemonheads is now a lawyer in the entertainment industreee

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Monday, 13 October 2008 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ha ha genuine lols at forks

max, Monday, 13 October 2008 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

can someone clever but 'to' in the title between 'back' and 'work'?

― pisces, Sunday, 3 June 2007 01:07 (2 years ago)

:(

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 13:05 (eleven years ago) link

Mr Jeff Dimpsey, bassist for '90s feedback-y rockers Hum who had the catchy song "Stars" among others, has a tech-y computer related job here at the University of Texas, where I go to class.

I'll stand by this one that I posted a few years ago.

Christina Carter (1/2 of Charalambides) has a record store gig at Waterloo Records in Austin. See her there almost every week. Once she complimented my buying a Jack Rose album about a year back, which made me happy.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

Margaret Fiedler out of Laika makes and sells eco-friendly candles.

anagram, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 13:30 (eleven years ago) link

the singer of Codeine is a school teacher

Zeno, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

Tom Carter is a busy, busy man: http://www.linkedin.com/in/artercay

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

Laetitia Sadier of Stereolab works as a Shiatsu Massage Therapist in London.

Moodles, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

"Sadier has played in Stereolab since it formed in the early '90s. What would she do if she had to give up music?

Shiatsu massage, maybe? She's been trained for it. But that too, Sadier explains, can make for a less than steady paycheck.

"It's difficult to build a clientele," she says. "Hopefully, we're not there yet."

Zeno, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

I suspect half this message board with be calling her about their stiff muscles.

djh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

will not with.

djh, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

Born: A baby girl, Mary Margaret Inouye, the very first grandchild for Sen. Daniel Inouye. "I've been waiting for this moment for many years," said the Hawaii Democrat, 85. Maggie (she's taking her late grandmother's nickname) was born at Sibley Memorial Hospital in D.C. on Tuesday morning; parents are Jessica Carroll Inouye, a graphic designer, and Ken Inouye, a lobbyist (whom fans may also remember as the guitarist of D.C. hardcore pioneers Marginal Man).

Mike Dixn, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

bit of a shocker for any Gene fans, two up from the bottom
http://www.talentmark.com/people/

i mean good luck to him and everything but :/

piscesx, Saturday, 3 September 2011 15:49 (ten years ago) link

I like to think voluntarily working with Martin Rossiter in any capacity would eventually drive someone to the relative sanity of business recruiting.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 September 2011 17:18 (ten years ago) link

I have this feeling there's more money in it than there ever was in Gene.

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\etc (Matt #2), Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:19 (ten years ago) link

xp was he a bit of a pain to work for/with? i can kinda see that. i know he had his issues over the years.

piscesx, Saturday, 3 September 2011 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Bruce Springsteen is my dustman

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 3 September 2011 21:09 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

Guy Chadwick = a plasterer now in London, according to a guy calling in on the Danny Baker radio show.

piscesx, Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:03 (nine years ago) link

Post 60s hits and pre-Rounder Records comeback, Irma Thomas worked in Montgomery Ward's lingerie and automotive departments to support her four children while singing in San Francisco clubs on weekends.

Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:18 (nine years ago) link

already mentioned, but the story of Dave Gregory and Colin Moulding renting out cars for $$$ after Oranges and Lemons is really weird

I also heard that Jim Smith (bassist of Cardiacs) works regularly as a refrigerator repairman. And that (the former) Sarah Smith now has an office job somewhere

frogbs, Monday, 18 June 2012 17:23 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Stretching the bounds of "Rock Star" here but noticed this story about Helen Reddy who left music to pursue a degree in hypnotherapy.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 14 July 2012 15:35 (nine years ago) link

Guy Garvey is also a DJ which helps get his band A-listed on 6Music

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Saturday, 14 July 2012 15:46 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Nasty Suicide, the original guitarist from Hanoi Rocks, got a degree and now works as a pharmacist.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 10:36 (six years ago) link

Under his real name, obviously.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 10:36 (six years ago) link

with a name like that, why would he want to change it?

legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:39 (six years ago) link

Drummer from Lemonheads is a lawyer

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 November 2014 02:50 (six years ago) link

Luke Wood who used to play in Sammy is the boss of Spotify now

hackshaw, Thursday, 13 November 2014 07:06 (six years ago) link

What's David Berman been up to lately?

Simon H., Thursday, 13 November 2014 07:06 (six years ago) link

somewhat relevant

http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/our-favourite-bands-and-their-day-jobs?utm_source=vicefbuk

however, 'loads of huge uk rock bands' is stretching it ..

mark e, Thursday, 13 November 2014 08:59 (six years ago) link

I came on to post that article!

But yeah, I hadn't actually heard of any of those bands before I read it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:06 (six years ago) link

most of them have played near my house in the last 6 months.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:23 (six years ago) link

mind you, i'm struggling to think of any huge uk rock bands right now.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:24 (six years ago) link

xp

Google says that rather than being CEO of Spotify, Luke Wood from Sammy is the President of Beats (by Dre etc). Also apparently "While Wood was at Geffen in 1994, the company posted the first commercial MP3 file".

I used to love Tales of Great Neck Glory but if you told a teenage me that one of the guys would be in charge of a multi-billion dollar company I'd have called you mad. They only just sound like they are in charge of their instruments on that album.

challop (Willl), Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:41 (six years ago) link

with the exception of Deaf Havana, who I assume no-one here gives a fuck about but play 1500-cap venues in the UK, the examples in that article are pretty badly chosen as I doubt most of them would have scraped a living from their band even in, idk, 1997

well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:49 (six years ago) link

The Scrape A Living Years

Mark G, Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:52 (six years ago) link

mind you, i'm struggling to think of any huge uk rock bands right now.

― joni mitchell jarre (dog latin)

Oh come on now.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:58 (six years ago) link

you know though, these are bands playing a very competent brand of popular rock. I mean, stuff like Gnarwolves, God Damn, Wytches have all been featured highly on 6Music. Heart of a Coward are from my neck of the woods. Not my cup of cha, necessarily, but they do the post-hardcore/metalcore thing extremely well, and that's a very very popular style of music.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:01 (six years ago) link

xpost Biffy Clyro. That's the only one I can think of.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:01 (six years ago) link

Muse?

Siegbran, Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:08 (six years ago) link

Coldplay. Radiohead.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:13 (six years ago) link

Mumford and Sons?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:13 (six years ago) link

those aren't rock bands, don't be silly.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:13 (six years ago) link

/jks

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:13 (six years ago) link

Rolling Stones are still around, are they not?

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:14 (six years ago) link

srsly though, do people still listen to muse?

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:18 (six years ago) link

can anyone name a successful ROCK band (and i mean rock, not Mumfords) band from the UK who materialised after, say, 2010?

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:19 (six years ago) link

I taught a class of teenaged Italians over the summer and they were all absolutely nuts about Muse.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:20 (six years ago) link

can anyone name a successful ROCK band (and i mean rock, not Mumfords) band from the UK who materialised after, say, 2010?

― joni mitchell jarre (dog latin)

Well four years isn't that much time to achieve the kind of mega-success I assume you're talking about.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:26 (six years ago) link

Royal Blood?

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:27 (six years ago) link

they were mentioned in the article.

i've never heard them? i hear they're big though.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:32 (six years ago) link

Runhild Gammelsæter is a biologist and has a phd in cell physiology.

a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 13 November 2014 14:41 (six years ago) link

srsly though, do people still listen to muse?

Muse are supposedly headlining Glastonbury next year, Arctic Monkey just headlined Reading this year, so some people are still listening.

I can understand nobody with functioning ears is particularly excited about bands like Bring Me The Horizon and Asking Alexandria, but they do make album chart topping records.

Siegbran, Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:45 (six years ago) link

Robbie Crane of Ratt worked in a really nice Cajun/Creole restaurant in West Chester, PA.

DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:57 (six years ago) link

why is Morrissey so concerned about whether Robbie Crane knows his face or not? Always confused me.

carot tard (rip van wanko), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:00 (six years ago) link

dave smythe, former bassist of the rezillos, is an anti-fracking activist recently accused of falsely claiming to be a chartered geologist

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:05 (six years ago) link

James Endeacott of Loop has been an A&R guy for Rough Trade for awhile now. Think he's responsible for signing The Libertines.

Nigel Twist of The Alarm works in the SF public defender's office.

Julie Ritter of Mary's Danish is a real estate agent.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:33 (six years ago) link

Wonder what Nash Kato does all day.

the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:37 (six years ago) link

what the hell is evan dando doing

hackshaw, Friday, 14 November 2014 02:26 (six years ago) link

Dando still tours as The Lemonheads--he was just in town opening for The Psychedelic Furs.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:30 (six years ago) link

It looks like Amelia Fletcher (lead singer of Talula Gosh / Heavenly / Marine Research) has left her job as Chief Economist at the Office of Fair Trading to be Professor of Competition Policy at the University of East Anglia - http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2013/January/amelia-fletcher-competition-policy-oft

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 14 November 2014 05:24 (six years ago) link

one year passes...
one year passes...

Fred Neil, writer of "Everybody's Talkin'", sang "I've been searching for the dolphins in the sea", then set up the Dolphin Research Project and more or less retired from music.

lana del boy (ledge), Monday, 19 February 2018 13:50 (three years ago) link

One thing I always wonder -- how do those mid-level indie bands survive? They're big enough that they tour frequently, hence they probably don't have a full-time job. But they also can't be making much from music.
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, February 1, 2005 11:56 AM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Friend who's a frequently touring indie/noise dude mostly works in call centres. Sometimes stuff like being a reader for audiobooks. Occasionally gets a grant. I think the temp/gig economy is fairly conducive to this lifestyle, actually.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 19 February 2018 15:45 (three years ago) link

not exactly a "rock star" but the recent shirley collins doc has a bit about her day job drudgery after she lost her voice in the late 1970s. lame!
also was surprised to learn in a recent podcast that sleater kinney's corin tucker does web development on the side ...

tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:00 (three years ago) link

I know people who were in Soul Asylum & the Jayhawks who eventually had to return to bar tending for cash flow during lean post-fame yrs

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:02 (three years ago) link

Neither of these people were the front men btw

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:04 (three years ago) link

yeah, i can only imagine being the bass player in a somewhat successful band is a losing game in the end.

tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:14 (three years ago) link

They were both bass players!

RIP Karl Mueller, the sweetest man in rock.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:17 (three years ago) link

yeah even in a good year, if you aren't writing songs, you probably only make like a decent middle class wage (but receive all the adulation that a bass player gets)

tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:20 (three years ago) link

OTM

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:22 (three years ago) link

i had a conversation with an aging musician recently and he was like "so i hear you can make pretty good money with ... computers?"

tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:23 (three years ago) link

The guy from Creeper Lagoon started a rental company renting vans to...touring musicians.

He was recently in the local press because of an escapade recovering a stolen van:

https://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Twitter-tale-of-SF-van-theft-gets-elected-12620936.php?t=91b84c280c

fajita seas, Monday, 19 February 2018 20:53 (three years ago) link

Perhacs returned to dentistry for many years before making another record

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:12 (three years ago) link

Vito Bratta of White Lion, though it's not entirely clear what he does other than having obtained a real estate brokerage license at some point

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:44 (three years ago) link

depressing thread

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:55 (three years ago) link

how do those mid-level indie bands survive? They're big enough that they tour frequently, hence they probably don't have a full-time job. But they also can't be making much from music.

mostly the service industry. much like how actors have jobs waiting tables (steady/reliable cash, flexible schedule, easy to find another job if you lose it) there are a lot of musicians waiting tables or working as bartenders or running sound at clubs.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:02 (three years ago) link

Was gonna say the thing about Joe Easley what was already posted. Wonder how he's doing now.

J0hn Dug@n from Chisel was a co-worker of mine in a graphics department for a while.

persona non gratin (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:16 (three years ago) link

I don't think it's depressing, I'd love to read a thread about how musicians are getting by without day jobs/side gigs.

Almost all of the professional musicians I know either have a lot of music-related side hustles (teaching, etc) or special circumstances, like a spouse with a good job.

Heard on a podcast the other day that Corin Tucker still has a job doing web development/media.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:20 (three years ago) link

Probably not as many duplicate character as it's felt like, but you could argue that the 1990s Chapel Hill indie rock scene morphed into the 00's farm-to-table Carolina restaurant scene.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 22 February 2018 03:18 (three years ago) link

Mary Weiss of the Shangri-Las went into the field of architecture and "commercial interiors" before coming back with a solo album and shows in 2007

Josefa, Thursday, 22 February 2018 05:11 (three years ago) link

Laetitia Sadier teaches singing on the side

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:46 (three years ago) link

Jason Everman, briefly in Nirvana & Soundgarden, joined the army and has had a pretty interesting life

nate woolls, Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:47 (three years ago) link

Pavement:

"Gary Young currently markets recording studio products"
"Currently Mark Ibold is a bartender at "Great Jones Cafe" in New York City."
Bob Nastanovich: "After Pavement's split, he served as jockey agent for Greta Kuntzweiler and Joe Johnson"

President Keyes, Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:53 (three years ago) link

Linda Scott pursued teaching instead of doo wop

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:58 (three years ago) link

Linda Scott pursued teaching instead of doo wop

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:58 (three years ago) link

I was going to mention Bob Nastanovich, he actually does horse racing analysis for a local racetrack here. Occasionally does a little dj gig here and there.

mh, Thursday, 22 February 2018 16:06 (three years ago) link

"Currently Mark Ibold is a bartender at "Great Jones Cafe" in New York City."

Not sure when that was the case or whether still true. They shut down for a few weeks over the summer, seemingly permanently, but then reopened.

Moo Vaughn, Thursday, 22 February 2018 16:57 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

"Laetitia Sadier teaches singing on the side"

I read somewhere the she was working as a shiatsu practitioner

nostormo, Thursday, 28 November 2019 21:32 (one year ago) link

that is mentioned upthread

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, 28 November 2019 21:57 (one year ago) link

Joey Shithead from DOA is a city councillor for the Greens now.

everything, Friday, 29 November 2019 04:23 (one year ago) link

That pub quiz thingy looks pretty spiffy in demonstration videos. Nice one, Shed Seven's Alan Leach!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 29 November 2019 04:58 (one year ago) link

Terry Callier was a computer programmer for years, I think.

fetter, Friday, 29 November 2019 21:56 (one year ago) link

Sammy Hagar made a packet developing and selling off his Cabo Wabo tequila brand.

that's not my post, Saturday, 30 November 2019 00:41 (one year ago) link

DJ Crystl (of “Warpdrive” fame) is now a personal trainer.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:48 (one year ago) link

Sammy Hagar also owns a few classy bistros in the San Francisco area.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:58 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Fred Neil, writer of "Everybody's Talkin'", sang "I've been searching for the dolphins in the sea", then set up the Dolphin Research Project and more or less retired from music.

― lana del boy (ledge)

I thought this was a joke, googled his wikipedia page to find out what he’s been up to and lo and behold, it’s true.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 00:29 (one year ago) link

What he’s been up to? He died of cancer years ago.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:07 (one year ago) link

Sorry for my bad english, I meant “what he had been up to after retiring from music”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:10 (one year ago) link

Mick Pointer of Marillion returned to his career as a kitchen designer after being fired from the band he formed.

aphoristical, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:50 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I wish this article wasn't paywalled because the lede is a masterpiece:

Life on the road as the leader of an indie-rock band wasn’t such a far cry from clocking in as a corporate lawyer for Darren Richard. He was welcomed into Dinsmore & Shohl LLP’s Columbus office as an associate in September 2009 following a career in which he owned a record label, mainly supporting his band, Chicago-based Pinetop Seven, where he was songwriter, instrumentalist and singer.

sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:09 (one year ago) link

https://web.archive.org/web/20110415193240/https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2010/10/11/focus3.html

Richard was surprised at the similarities between professions. Both involve problem solving, whether it’s working through the logistics associated with shipping six band mates overseas for a European tour or helping a client negotiate a commercial lease agreement.

“Playing music professionally is a collaborative endeavor,” Richard said.

A musician works with band mates on song arrangements, recording sessions and shows, as well as with label representatives and promoters to generate album sales and to fill seats at venues.

“Similarly, transactional legal work is collaborative,” Richard said.

An attorney advocates his client’s position, he said, but ultimately all sides want to close the deal, whether it’s an asset purchase or a recording contract.

The similarities end with the lifestyle. Richard said a typical day on the road started early and ended with dinner at 9 p.m. “Now, I’m in the office generally from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m,” he said.

Meeting with clients and opposing counsel with a speciality in entertainment law has replaced driving between venues and loading equipment. Writing and reviewing documents takes precedent over penning lyrics and arranging songs.

sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:14 (one year ago) link

Imagine, two different professions that involve “problem solving”... what are the chances

Btw, here’s another lawyer who runs a record label.

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:19 (one year ago) link

tbf environmental law is pretty noize

sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:39 (one year ago) link

I got lots of friends who had low- and mid-tier music careers who've moved on... some of them at a certain point felt impossibly famous, like they were part of ad campaigns, were working as models for certain designers, etc. etc.

Of all the secondary career moves that these people have taken, "therapist" seems to be the most prevalent. I can think of six musicians who're now working as therapists. All six of them, too, I'm like, "that sounds like a perfect job for you, you'd be a great therapist". All of them are so, so much happier!

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 1 May 2020 13:44 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

James Corden's drummer is off awaiting the birth of his child, so one of the show's producers is sitting in.

Their name?

Kate Shellenbach of Beastie Boys & Luscious Jackson fame.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 March 2021 04:48 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

(current = for over two decades)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:26 (two weeks ago) link

The shadow of Matt Lukin looms large (Also: before initially clicking on the link I thought it would be about Lukin having an interesting second chapter outside music ala Jason Everman).

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:32 (two weeks ago) link

PW Long of the old Touch and Go band Mule works doing TV news and documentary work.

earlnash, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:12 (two weeks ago) link

I really loved PW Long's Reelfoot, more than Mule actually

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:02 (two weeks ago) link

Never saw that band live, but Mule rocked some serious mullet. I saw Long on some feature watching a news program on Vice and thought it was him, looked it up and it was.

earlnash, Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:44 (one week ago) link

xxxpost Lukin worked as a carpenter after quitting music

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 13:58 (one week ago) link


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