Jimmy Eat World - Classic or Dud?

that is a great album

We coulda just stopped this thread after this comment.

Though the idea of a Mutt produced JEW record is kinda novel, I think they'd need to revisit their songwriting before committing to it. Well-polished turds and all that.

Maybe if the dude took a hiatus and got accepted to Harvard...

I wouldn't mind Jim Adkins coming to school.

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward, but when I met Jim Adkins he was rather pleasant!

About 50% of Futures is really good, I think; some of the rest is very meh.

I'll take the first couple of Get Up Kids albums for my whiny midwestern suburbanites fix.

tell us more!

Classic that I never noticed they acronymize as JEW, though.

I thought 'Clarity' was excellent but the last one didn't do much for me, although I tried and tried because apparently I was missing out on something, according to some.

I bought 'Futures' cos I couldn't find anything else at the time. I played it twice and thought it was flaccid awfulness to the extreme. Something was telling me to persist, which I did, and it's becoming worthwhile with its hooks and harmonies. Yeah, so what, it's 'nice' but sometimes that suits.

Not really bothered by bad names and bad haircuts. I find it's the music that counts.

Who did the song " If Jimmy ate the world I'd be pretty pissed off" Made me laugh anyhow.

have they ever explained why they did that? is it jew by accident or was it intentional?

These guys went the same way as The Promise Ring for me. I had them on a pedestal and then they blew it. All their songs sound too similar now and they seem to have replaced their authenticity with production.

Pre Bleed American - Classic
Overall - DUD

(from one of Ryan Pitchfork's lowest moments)

I think "Praise Chorus" is the one that cites the other lyrics -- "Crimson and Clover"; The first song from "Nothing Feels Good" by The Promise Ring; "Don't Let's Start" by They Might be Giants.

-- chaki in charge (chaki.tim...), January 6th, 2005.

Mostly he just talked about how he really liked meditation, and a bit about Boston bands that were around when he first went to school. Nice enough guy, just impossible to get him to say anything really. Shy in a way that unnerves.

There's lots that I like about JEW, and Bleed American was a really good (pop) album. So was Clarity, for that matter. Futures -- I've listened to it through 3-4 times. The more attention I'm paying, the better it sounds; lots of craft there, and nice touches. But five minutes after the disc ends I can't remember a single song on it. (I probably heard Pain on the radio 5 times before I focused on what it was. And I still can't remember what it sounds like.) That's not a good thing.

These guys totally screwed themselves by waiting too long to sell something new after Bleed American finally took off.

they used to do splits with christie front drive and the like. definitely a part of that "midwestern" emo sound. shimmering arpeggiated indie rock with a boner for loud/soft dynamics.

i don't want to get into an emo thing. go to fourfa.com

new record comes out june 11

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG8JiH4CEAEFFAX.jpg:large

Yay, but wtf is with that cover?

marry poppins themed

still better than the new Yeah Yeah Yeahs cover.

and here's a new song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gnjeNqrG3w

sounds pretty good imo

I agree, that sounds very promising!

there was some awful "tweet to unlock the stream" gimmick going on but it seems you can listen to the new record without advertising it now http://damage.jimmyeatworld.com/

record is great btw

JIMMY EAT WORLD ANNOUNCES FUTURES
10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY HEADLINE TOUR
BAND CONFIRMS VINYL REISSUES
(PRE-ORDER AVAILABLE NOW)
STATIC PREVAILS, CLARITY, FUTURES TO BE REISSUED ON 180G COLORED VINYL


Santa Monica, CA - June 24th, 2014 - Jimmy Eat World has announced a fall North American headlining tour to commemorate the 10-year anniversary of their lauded album, Futures. Slated to kick off October 2nd at the Ventura Theater, the band will perform their 2004 release from front to back.

A listing of confirmed dates can be found below. Fan presales to begin Thursday, June 26th at 10am (local time), with public on sales commencing Friday also at 10am (local time). Additional dates to be announced soon.

Visit jimmyeatworld.com/tour for further details.

Jimmy Eat World will also reissue three titles on double LP via Universal Music Enterprises in partnership with SRCvinyl. Static Prevails will be released on August 19th, Clarity on September 2nd and Futures on September 30th. Remastered from the highest quality 16-bit/44.1 khz recording and cut as 33 1/3 RPM, each LP contains bonus song(s). Pressed by Pallas, in Germany, and mastered for the reissues by Kevin Gray.

All three titles are available for pre-order now at: http://shop.jimmyeatworld.com/ and www.srcvinyl.com. An exclusive pre-order bundle is available via Jimmy Eat World's website. In this bundle, fans will find a limited edition numbered t-shirt and LP, for each of the titles. The LPs will be for sale at all major and independent retail outlets in the US and Canada.

Pumped about the vinyl reissues, but why no Bleed American?

Okay I'm probably among the bigger mid-period Jimmy Eat World stan on this board, but jesus fuck not every album needs to be celebrated with an anniversary guys.

i agree? but far as i can tell there are a ton of ppl who are all about futures

unfortunately i don't think i'll get an invented anniversary tour

fucking classic just for THE MIDDLE and its 1979-aping video. BLEED AMERICAN the song also geat. SWEETNESS might be their best song

I don't get how someone can give Bleed American a 3 and Source Tags & Codes a 10.
― m1cc1o, Friday, January 7, 2005 12:49 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

SO FUCKING OTM

DROP D CITY

once in a while I go through their whole discography and start thinking they're the best rock band ever

sooo ready for a new jimmy eat world record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5KiGB0fp3U

what an awful album title
love them tho

Wasn't crazy about the first advance single, but I like this! Excited for the new record now.

Yup, same reaction here re: "Get Right" vs. this new one.

I have decided that Futures is my favorite JEW album. Integrity Blues has higher highs but also 3-4 tracks I have no use for.

fav overall?

clarity will basically never be supplanted as my fav, but integrity is prob my second favorite jew album at this point. it's def their dreamiest

for some reason i have found myself in a lot of conversations about this band lately (i didn't even bring them up!)

I will say that Integrity Blues' title track almost made me tear up on the train a few days ago

I think if "Disintegration" and "Shame" made it to Futures it would have been more warmly received, somehow.

"shame" is so good, prob the least ponderous slow song from those sessions

I will say that Integrity Blues' title track almost made me tear up on the train a few days ago

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, April 17, 2017 11:21 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for calling this one out. hadn't really listened to that one intently. sweet track.

Work is just the best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY89XG0lmhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwp9uDuxoiQ

new album, surviving, out 10/18

best band of all time imo

p sure they remixed "love never" for the record and it sounds way punchier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB7xABGta4I

those "hey heys" are a very reliable comfort

sax!!!!

yah that sax was a pleasant surprise. im here for this obv.

y'all this album whips

"555" probably the closest we'll ever get to a jimmy eat world slow jam

Are JEW and 3EB releasing on the same day?

yes lol

also i'm very impressed by this record. thought it might be a straight-up pop-rock record like bleed american or chase this light, and it sort of is but with dark atmospheric pockets. the last two tracks are a moodshift you almost don't notice happening until it's happened

got my friday night lined up

thinking it’s time for Pitchfork to revisit Bleed American, keep righting Ryan rongs.

xp i love "Work"

this album is so dope i can't stand it. it's the closet they've gotten to bleed american since bleed american imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-TZiVVaTE

haha what a weird video, love it

it made my day

perfectly illustrates the melodramatic essence of the song while also being completely ridiculous. mad max tyrant contemplating personal failures

yea it works!

this album is really slick, the songs are there. kinda wish the mix had room to breathe a little but ive felt that way since chase the light.

whole album is very listenable though. back half of the closing track is very ji\m/\m/y eat world.

i wasn't ready for goth metal jimmy eat world feat. davey havok on backing vocals

oh wow thats awesome now i hear him on there. that song has so much energy. second listen through the album now and I like every song.

i'm doing the thiiiiings that i'm told
every day
every day
every day

this is so good, glad i decided to check it out after seeing a headline about davey havok guesting on a song (which is still sick, but the whole album is great)

their best in a long while

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p-X6zczdPA
sweet sweet harmonies

the gong lol

if y'all like livestreams they're doing three over the next few months, each covering a different album in their discog. first was tonight, playing surviving, and it fucking whipped ass, and even though it's over you apparently can buy tickets afterward to watch it on demand https://www.jimmyeatworldlive.com/

"congratulations" was like.... even better than i thought it would be

also next few weeks* not months

"congratulations" is one of my favorite running songs of the last few years

ive been enjoying jims youtube series 'pass-through frequencies' where he interviews (mostly) other emo gods. also interviewed flynt flossy.

i may buy tickets to those live streams. thx for the heads up.

i really like pass-through frequencies too!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzgVMugghoc

really good discussion of recording surviving, including a story about justin meldal-johnsen driving down hollywood blvd. blasting ratt's out of the cellar and throwing the devil horns

today's the futures show! my least favorite of their major albums but it's gonna rip live

oh now im interested in your JEW album rankings. futures would be up there for me

clarity
integrity blues
surviving
bleed american
invented
futures
chase this light
static prevails
damage

futures is just... slightly too dirge-y? it's still great but i kinda lose the thread right after "pain"

never heard the s/t, nothing anyone's said about it makes it seem worth hearing lol

Integrity Blues and Futures are both "tremendous highs, regrettable lows" for me, boringly I think Bleed American is my favorite now

wait what are the lows on futures!?

i dont really care for just tonight but thats about it

"drugs or me" and "night drive" do not completely work for me and never have. i still listen to them all the time lol

i'm expecting the live set to change my mind about this tbh

"polaris" is potentially the goat jimmy eat world song tho

"drugs or me" is nails on chalkboard awful to me lol

wow ok. i do kinda wish they rocked it out like on the demo tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frD86e-S3_k

only record i havent spent time with is Invented.

my high ranking of invented is very personal, if i dial back at all i can see it's a flawed record, but it's also the record that soundtracked my move to new york ten years ago

it has an odd status in the discog i think, it is clearly a throwback to clarity in many ways (trombino on production, tom sings lead on a song toward the end), but the songwriting isn't a throwback at all, adkins was exploring writing from different perspectives and his stuff from around this period and damage has kind of a stately singer-songwriter vibe to it

not really feeling the first couple of tracks..

adkins was exploring writing from different perspectives

I feel like this is almost actively discouraged of late so I do like this idea, though that album hasn't really clicked for me yet

not really feeling the first couple of tracks..

― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, January 29, 2021 1:23 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh man, the opener is the best!!!! but also the album doesn't really find footing until "movielike"

"my best theory" feels like a lead single from a different album, it is very out of place

lol, again, it's got a lot of problems, i love it so anyway

I feel like this is almost actively discouraged of late so I do like this idea, though that album hasn't really clicked for me yet

― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, January 29, 2021 1:23 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he was getting really into cindy sherman photography around the time and the byproduct of that is a lot of the album is from a woman's perspective

"coffee and cigarettes" for instance. and he does it without calling attention to the device at all, which is how it should be

oh man, the opener is the best!!!!

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, January 29, 2021 1:26 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

little too much mumford and sons stompity stomping for me

oh lol i can see that. it does predate when that style became inescapable but unfortunately does not quite predate patient zero, "home"

invented is also the reason i know about courtney marie andrews, she did the backing vocals on the record and toured with them and is a really amazing songwriter in her own right

love that i dont know if youre talking about the edward sharp home or the phillip phillips home lol

i was talking about the edward sharpe home but also lol

liking movielike, coffee and cigs and evidence from the front half of this. stop is good too. a lot more soaring electric guitar leads than im used to maybe.

littlething is sounding great.

i just got to "littlething" myself and remembered how often i've cried to this record, "lol"

yah instant rewind on that one. perfect song there.

the title track!

i may have slept on this album

the title track is incredible. i covered it at an open mic night once

haha nice.

and they follow it up with another epic what is this album.

imo "just tonight" is a ripper. dark hair metal jam

i say that bc they are playing it now

ah jealous

"the world you love"... incredible

"kill" is also the best song ever

"kill" is top 5 for sure

i love kill and the world you love.

lmao well yeah this staging and arrangement are finally selling me on "drugs or me"

im gonna cry thinking about you crying to 23

lmao it's gonna happen

id be worried if it didnt

whole show was really special, songs i hadn't necessarily rated came alive, really ideal. also made me realize that futures has a lot of backing vocal action and guitar fx

also can't say enough how perfect the lighting and staging is, so much atmosphere

any screenshots?

i can make a few! i had started watching it all over again anyway lol

https://i.imgur.com/XjSNMaG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/D29XwaX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xookMAi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/etRajk4.jpg

oh wow i'm so sorry for huge

Oh wow those are sweet!

I'm done, there's nothing left to show
I try but can't let it go
Are you happy where you're standing still?
Do you really want the sugar pill?
I'll wake up tomorrow and I'll start
Tonight it feels so hard
As the train approaches Gare Du Nord
As I'm sure your kiss remains employed
Am I only dreaming?

Feeing pretty good about this. @FINALLEVEL #rhymesydicate #pod pic.twitter.com/Re505GvwVP

— Jimmy Eat World (@jimmyeatworld) January 30, 2021

clarity show this friday!!!

might need to clear out my friday

tonight!!! :D

pic.twitter.com/is1RaoKSvT

— Zach Lind (@zlind76) February 12, 2021

table for glasses... goddamn

moshed in my room to "crush," felt great

wasn't sure if this performance was gonna be better than the futures one

it is

ugh im stuck working

this is all an A+ concept way more bands oughta do

WHEN THE WORLD CAVES IN
WHATCHA GONNA DO

spottie you are in for such a treat after work, my god lmao

"goodbye sky harbor" exceeded expectations

i paid $45 for all three shows and i would've paid twice that for what i got

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQAjoqqLwCw

just wanted to post this show from last month with the best setlist i've ever seen:

what would i say to you now
clarity
for me this is heaven
get it faster
criminal energy
no sensitivity
softer
thinking, that's all
kill
blister
night drive
surviving
goodbye sky harbor

sick

that room is tiny. i'm sure some of you know.

dang! if I was there I'd be annoyed by this ding dong holding up his phone for the entire show, but sitting here now I am super appreciative...

audio from the phoenix sessions has been gradually appearing on streaming services, futures and clarity so far. listening back to clarity this morning... it sounds so good

our weakness is the same
we need poison sometimes

is tomorrow just a day
like all the rest

attn: spottie!!!! the phoenix sessions have all been uploaded to youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ96wkcGOpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAlS5m2JKCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTBTkahIdvo

bless you, brad! will be watching these asap

"Just Watch the Fireworks", wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOWnhMxJMMk

yes!!!!!

so consistent these guys

4:20 smoke weed listen to "just watch the fireworks"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SYFqlshllM

the core, the heart music

"The Middle" is a total ear worm.

The video is a bit of a headscratcher, although I suppose having bunches of young people in their underwear sounded like an easy sell.

lol yeah, huge gap between the video concept and the band's image/song subject matter. but also very 00s.

thanks for posting the warped video, ivy! enjoyed that, and the blink set too

love that concert footage