I didn't get as many comments as I would have liked and unfortunately wasn't able to make the time to e-mail people back for more comments. As we get to the top thirty, I'll dig into my inbox to see what I have. But right now, on to the list...feel free to add the comments as we go along.
Also, this is technically a top 101. But whatever...
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link
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PALACE MUSIC - "New Partner"
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AIR - "All I Need"
comments?
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Palace Music - "New Partner" (233 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes)
Air - "All I Need" (233 points, 16 votes)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link
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Madonna - "Deeper and Deeper" (234 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
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Teenage Fanclub - "The Concept" (from the pictured album above...)(234 points, 15 votes)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link
WU-TANG CLAN - "Shame On A Nigga" (235 points, 13 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002WPI.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
meth's line on 'shame on a nigga' ('i'm better, than my competor, you mean competitor? whatever!') is, on a good day, the best line ever recorded.
-- ethan padgett
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link
BEASTIE BOYS - "Intergalactic" (236 points, 13 votes, 1 first place)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000G6KQ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"Intergalactic" was like the only decent song they played in bars with girls in them that I went to in the summer/fall of 98, and I would always sing "Intergalactic Prophylactic" when dancing with girls who I knew weren't going to sleep with me anyhow.
- Horace Mann
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link
MADONNA - "Ray of Light" (240 points, 21 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000898T.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
This is probably my favorite Madonna song, except for maybe a couple of her mid-nineties ballads. Really, it's astonishing. I don't think I'll ever be a fan of hers overall, but I'll hang into the CD for this song alone...
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm going to get really depressed over not voting, I can tell.
― etc, Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:41 (nineteen years ago) link
CORNERSHOP - "Brimful of Asha" (243 points, 16 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000009GDN.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Comments on this one? I like it, a lot more than I like the rest of the Cornershop album...
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― 45!, Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link
BJORK - "Human Behaviour" (245 points, 12 votes)
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I knew someone from Pakistan who likes "Human Behavior," which proves it's her best song.
-- Rockist Scientist
ORBITAL - "Belfast" (245 points, 14 votes)
http://www.paulstephenson.freeserve.co.uk/orbital_singles/orb_belfast-wasted12.jpg
Belfast is the absolutely blissful sound of being sublimely hammered and sitting on a kerb/haystack/car bonnet somewhere you don't know at 4am. It is beautiful.
-- Nick Southall
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link
ISOLEE - "Beau Mot Plage"
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004WX0P.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
I heard this song on a mix tape a friend made for me awhile back and I've been trying to find any sort of Isolee CD, but it can't be done. Curses to me and my refusal to mail-order. This is a great cut.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link
ARAB STRAP - "The First Big Weekend" (247 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://www.lyred.com/covers/arab_strap_-_week_never_starts_round_here.jpg
"The first one is pure ass, except "the first big weekend" and "deeper". "The First Big Weekend" is maybe the best Arab Strap song."
-- gygax!
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Atnevon (Atnevon), Saturday, 6 November 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Seb (Seb), Saturday, 6 November 2004 07:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link
NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - "Hypnotize" (249 points, 12 votes)
http://www.shima.iplus.to/img/mx/mx015797.jpg
I surprised this isn't higher. This is the one that sold me on Biggie and causes me to speak no ill of P. Diddy.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 08:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Hypnotize is WAY TOO LOW! Racists.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 6 November 2004 08:48 (nineteen years ago) link
THE MAGNETIC FIELDS - "The Luckiest Guy On the Lower East Side" (250 pts, 14 votes)
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PAVEMENT - "Shady Lane" (250 points, 17 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006ZLG.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Comments?
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 08:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 6 November 2004 08:59 (nineteen years ago) link
SAINT ETIENNE - "Like A Motorway" (252 points, 16 votes, 1 first place)
http://www.saint.etienne.net/ec/Like_A_Motorway.jpg
I noticed a while ago that St. Etienne's "Like a Motorway" is melodically very like the traditional ballad "Silver Dagger," which goes back at least many hundreds of years. I thought it was cool that the tune was being revisited and kept alive (probably unconsciously).
-- JesseFox
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link
SLOWDIVE - "Alison" (254 points, 15 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000DR7P.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
I've been told for years to get the above album that this song is on, mostly for this song in particular...
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link
LAMB - "Gorecki" (259 points, 15 votes, 1 first place)
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"Gorecki"...it was blatantly obvious that that song is brilliant, wonderful, indispensible, etc. -- Dan Perry
this morning on my md walkman i found myself paying a lot of attention to the words to Lamb's Gorecki, and tho it gets a lot of Unfinished-Sympathy-knock-off criticism, i can't think of a more beautiful and affective love song.
-- Alan Trewartha
APHEX TWIN - "Girl/Boy Song" (259 points, 18 votes)
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OPO: Richard D James
girl/boy -- jess (dubplatestyl...), February 4th, 2003.
i second girl/boy song -- PMK
Girl/Boy thirded. -- Matt DC
i fourth girl/boy -- dyson
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link
"Gorecki" is from Lamb's self-titled debut as pictured below, and "Girl/Boy Song" is from Aphex Twin's Richard D. James album.
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― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link
BLUR - "Song 2" (262 points, 17 votes, 1 first place)
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The video for "Song 2" features Damon being satisfyingly hurled against a wall...
-- Ally
DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - "Humpty Dance" (262 points, 14 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000HHM.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Certainly "The Humpty Dance" is one of the finest singles of all time, no?
-- J0hn Darn1elle
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 09:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 6 November 2004 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 6 November 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 6 November 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Wu-Tang/Beastie Boys/Madonna/Cornershop should be 96/95/94/93 -- I think you may have caught your mistake by the time you got to 92, though, so this is just an FYI.
2. I don't know how many ties are left in the rest of the chart, but how would you feel about breaking them by favoring the track with more overall votes? It looks like you may have already taken this into consideration with the order you placed them in, actually. But I'd like that better, since ties always makes it seem like the sample size is too small.
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 November 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 6 November 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 6 November 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
SORRY! You're right -- I was forgetting that there were 101 songs!
― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 6 November 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link
tonight, 80-61Monday, 60-41Tuesday, 40-31Wednesday, 30-21Thursday, 20-11Friday, TEH TOP TEN
the albums will begin the following Friday, if not sooner.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Sunday: 60-51Monday: 50-41etc
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Saturday, 6 November 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― yup, Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
I had "Shame on a Nigga" at #2, actually.
― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
DE LA SOUL - "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays" (268 points, 17 votes)
http://www.shima.iplus.to/img/mx/mx028723.jpg
I could go on and on about how much i love the youth remix of 'saturdays' - they play it at 'funkademia' in manchester evry saturday and it's so popular they *turn down the vocals* durin the chorus so evry1 can sing along...
- piscesboy
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
MASSIVE ATTACK - "Angel" (268 points, 19 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000009NKW.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"Angel" is slow motion apocalypse. It's like the bomb first drops, then goes off, then has to fight its way through, indeed, tar or something similar.
- Ned Raggett
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link
THE PIXIES - "Alec Eiffel" (269 pts, 22 votes)
http://ubl.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drc000/c018/c01874hi22k.jpg
I dont care what anyone else says, it can only be 'Alec Eiffel'. Someone here once said that there are more amazing ideas within these 3 minutes than in many a band's entire output. (Including the Pixies? Hahaha...!) I hope it plays in the club I'm going to later tonight, because I feel like dancing - no, flying! - on that song so much right now...
- Simon
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link
EMINEM - "My Name Is" (271 points, 21 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000IO8T.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Slim Shady does not give a fuck what I think.
- David Sim
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link
DESTINY'S CHILD - "Say My Name" (272 points, 19 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004RD03.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Is there a DC track more perfect and succinct than this? Maybe, but they're not here and this is. And right now it sounds like the best thing they ever did. It's pretty much Beyonce's show as usual and typically her strength is not really deployed until the end - the music not really rising with her though, preferring to remain in it's regimented but bounceable sync-pop groove, comfortable as it is. As pure Summery modern pop with soul tones it's flawless in conception and execution.
-- the neurotic awakening of s
Taken from comments on the '00s poll, this song knows not the boundaries of millenia.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link
NAUGHTY BY NATURE - "O.P.P." (276 points, 14 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000HGJ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
One band that I think history's given a rough deal to is Naughty By Nature. I still think that their biggest trick- using lyrical themes to contrast their always-so-damn-obvious samples, not as a gesture of subversion per se, but to give the songs some *conflict*- is pure genius. It's there on "O.P.P." of course, the exuberant innocence of The Jackson Five vs. the sly evil of the subject matter...
- Daniel_Rf
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link
BASEMENT JAXX - "Rendez-Vu" (278 points, 18 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004SALY.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"'Rendez-Vu' = immediate satisfaction."
- Eric H
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link
OASIS - "Live Forever" (282 points, 16 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000009H63.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"I finally brought myself to buy Definitely Maybe today for the first time, guiltlessly, while reminiscing 'bout those wonderful times once upon a time ago, back in the fifth grade. IT IS STILL BRILLIANT. They will live forever, a pox on you!"
-- Francis Watlington
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost - thanks Gear.
― Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "When You Sleep" (284 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002LRJ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpgfrom Loveless
"Today I was listening to Loveless and when "When You Sleep" came on, I couldn't stop imagining Prince singing it. And then I started clapping on the backbeat, and really wanted to dance."
-- A.V. Alexandre
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link
THE CURE - "Pictures of You" (286 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002I1U.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"Personally, I am ecstatic that I live in a society where people think that the lyrics "Looking so long at these pictures of you/But never held on to your heart/Looking so long for the words to be true/But always just breaking apart my pictures of you" can sell digital cameras."
-- Dan Perry
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Sunday, 7 November 2004 03:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 7 November 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 7 November 2004 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 7 November 2004 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link
NOTORIOUS B.I.G. featuring PUFF DADDY and MASE - "Mo Money, Mo Problems" (290 points, 21 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000005K1K.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"citizen kane's ideology = mo money mo problems."
-- nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 7 November 2004 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 7 November 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 7 November 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link
And the low scores for "Belfast" and "Like a Motorway" are more than a little shocking. I thought the latter would almost definitely be top 20. And does "Belfast"'s low placing mean that "Chime" didn't make it at all? Oh well.
"O.P.P." making it is good stuff though.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 7 November 2004 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 November 2004 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't even remember sending comments, but I know I could've done a whole lot better than that. I should at least mention that the fuzzy friction of the last chord in the flamenco's four-chord progression in the intro is like pulling what you think is a pubic hair out of your mouth and discovering it's pull-n-peel red licorice.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 7 November 2004 09:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 November 2004 09:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 7 November 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 7 November 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
SAINT ETIENNE - "Avenue" (291 points, 14 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://www.saint.etienne.net/ec/Avenue.jpg
Search: Nearly everything, but especially "Avenue". It is not only my single of the 90's, I think it might just be my favorite single of all time full stop. I don't really have any rational explanations of why, it just is. St. Etienne are magical.
- Nicole
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
It was 7th on mine!
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
SAINT ETIENNE - "You're In A Bad Way" (294 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://www.saint.etienne.net/ec/Youre_In_A_Bad_Way.jpg
1.Saint Etienne - “You’re In A Bad Way”
"This is how retro should be done. This is how kitsch should look, and sound. It should bounce like a space-hopper and be mixed like abeautiful cocktail. Sipped by a girl of dubious-origin on a beach,while a ropey porn-movie plays in the background."
- hobart paving
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 7 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link
SAINT ETIENNE - "Nothing Can Stop Us" (297 points, 14 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://www.saint.etienne.net/ec/Nothing_Can_Stop_Us.c.jpg
The first single to feature Sarah Cracknell, unless I'm mistaken, and still one of their best cuts. Not sure about the cover art, though!
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link
JEFF BUCKLEY - "Hallelujah" (304 points, 18 votes)
http://www.liquidgnome.com/JeffBuckley/images/hall.jpg
"First time I listened to it I was lying in bad with the flu at 3 in the morning. It's just TOO lovely, and made the feel even worse than I did at the time, which was pretty bad!"
- Johnney B
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
The UK issue was like this:
http://www.saint.etienne.net/ec/Nothing_Can_Stop_Us.jpg
but less blurry.
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Kevin Gilchrist (KevinGil14...), November 7th, 2004.
a single that doubles as a tampon?
xpost
― amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Uh, is that a joke? "Escargot, my car go" ring a bell?
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
PETE ROCK & CL SMOOTH - "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" (307 points, 13 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002H84.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg(from the album Mecca and the Soul Brother)
"pete rock & cl smooth created a subgenre with "they reminisce over you" which is a perfect marriage of elegiac rhymes and muted horns..."
- fred solinger
"nothing sadder in the world than Pete Rock & CL Smooth's "TROY (They Reminisce Over You)" "
- M Matos
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
ORBITAL - "Halcyon" (322 points, 17 votes)
http://www.paulstephenson.freeserve.co.uk/orbital_singles/orb_raddico_us12.jpg
"Halcyon is one of the most glorious bizarre and fantastic tracks around."
- Ronan
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
(xpost)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
LL COOL J - "Mama Said Knock You Out" (323 points, 19 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000024II.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"And you thought the word "damn" had lost its power..."
- Anthony Miccio
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
MISSY ELLIOTT - "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)" (326 points, 25 votes)
http://www.thehumangenomeproject.com/missy/rain.jpg
"Supa Dupa Fly remains her shining, most coherent, razzle-dazzling moment."
- Vic
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
xpost "The Rain" rules too. I love that Ann Peebles song too.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 7 November 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link
HAPPY MONDAYS - "Kinky Afro" (329 points, 22 votes)
http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/images/302_7b.jpg
"I remember Jess nominated this song for Best Opening Line ('son i'm thirty, i only went with your mother cos she's dirty'). Quite OTM."
-- Aaron A.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
But seriously, "Halcyon" at 64???
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
interesting results so far, and even moreso later on...
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
anyways, there weren't 64 songs in the 90s better than troy FFS
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 7 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link
no jungle, hardcore, or techno yet, this is either a good or bad thing.
― tricky (disco stu), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― artiste (artiste), Sunday, 7 November 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Sunday, 7 November 2004 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link
anyway, on to 60-51...
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 8 November 2004 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link
WU-TANG CLAN - "C.R.E.A.M." (332 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://www.mixtapes.ch/images/wu_cream.jpg
"Cash rules everything around me = the way things are."
- daria g
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
BJORK - "Joga" (336 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000024ZNT.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"Christ! How can you even begin to question the album with "Joga" on it????" -- Adam Bruneau
Favourite detail in a pop lyric?
"In 'Joga' by Bjork, when she appears to get the start of the word wrong in one verse, and goes "me-you". "
-- Matt DC
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link
PULP - "This Is Hardcore"(338 points, 22 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000009GDU.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
" "this is hardcore" is just so *sui generis*, i can't imagine anyone else pulling anything like that off at all."
- amateur!st
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link
TLC - "Creep" (339 points, 24 votes)
http://www.swr3.de/__pix/cover/500x435/221.jpg
"The first bar or two of Creep, in context, is like manna from heaven."- gabbneb
"That jazzy trumpet that starts Creep off is a trumpet of joy."-- syntaxfree
"i think "creep" is one of the 20 best r&b singles ever written." -- strongo hulkington
"Seconding (or ... 6thing) the suggestion that "Creep" is one of the greatest r and b songs ever."-- djdee2005
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
THE SMASHING PUMPKINS - "Cherub Rock" (340 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000HNU.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"I think I might have a totally different concept of 90s AOR than is being used here. Smashing Pumpkins would be the kings of the genre as I see it, with "Cherub Rock" probably being their best single."--sundar subramanian
"Makes me wanna fuck shit up. It brings up the violent side of me, that needs to be released once in a while, in order to be tamed. I am sometimes a difficult person to deal with, but, alas, it is just the demons trying to get out."--JP Almeida
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link
UNDERWORLD - "Cowgirl" (342 points, 19 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004Y1RR.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"Isn't the way Underworld use vocals totally unique, I can't think of any band or any dance act who use vocals as a rhythmic part of the song, in something like Rez/Cowgirl the "everything everything everything everything" seems to make the track so absolutely mindblowingly essential and intense and yet later in the track the vocals become like an extra drum or beat or something (an eraser of love)"--Ronan
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:43 (nineteen years ago) link
THE KLF - "Last Train To Trancentral" (343 points, 22 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://www.stars-on-7-inch.com/index_k/klf/last_train.jpg
"I think I was awestruck, or something close to it, when I first heard the KLF's "Last Train To Trancentral" on the radio - the idea at a young age that anyone in pop was this intelligent, and this gifted, and had this many ideas."-- Robin Carmody
"'Last Train to Trancentral' is, to me, the epitome of this method: it's just hook after hook after hook, with a bonkers half-time breakdown and, at the end when it appears no more can possibly happen, a cameo dalek voice chanting 'Mu Mu'. Pop genius."-- Ben Butler
"Oh, and "Last Train To Trancentral" being kept off Number 1 by Cher's "Shoop Shoop Song". Didn't piss me off so much back then, oddly; 10 years have clearly made me slowly more bitter."-- Robin Carmody
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link
PORTISHEAD - "Sour Times" (344 points, 25 votes)
http://www.thefirstcut.net/porsou2.jpg
"Being a stubborn male I refused to ask for help at the music stores. It took me monthes to find this sucker in the dance section months after I first heard it on the radio while I was eating my wheaties."--zacko
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link
MADONNA - "Vogue" (346 points, 22 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000071TK.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"'Vogue' - narcissism as spirituality, hollywoodism as religion, star-worship as self-love, and a groove so deep that brown or yellow people didn't even mind being left out of that "doesn't matter if you're black or white" line."-- Vic
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 8 November 2004 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link
MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt. II" (347 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://www.northood.com/mobbde4.jpg
"Shook Ones Pt II is just absolutely immortal - a very strong argument for you to procure the Infamous all on its own. "I'm only 19 but my mind is older" has always struck me as one of the coldest lines in any hip-hop song, but that whole track is just perfection." -- M Carty
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 05:12 (nineteen years ago) link
although my comment about the pulp song is really dumb and meaningless.
― amateur!!st, Monday, 8 November 2004 05:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 8 November 2004 05:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Monday, 8 November 2004 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link
100.- PALACE MUSIC - "New Partner", AIR - "All I Need"99.- MADONNA - "Deeper and Deeper", TEENAGE FANCLUB - "The Concept" 97.- WU-TANG CLAN - "Shame On A Nigga"96.- BEASTIE BOYS - "Intergalactic"95.- MADONNA - "Ray of Light" 94.- CORNERSHOP - "Brimful of Asha"92.- BJORK - "Human Behaviour", ORBITAL - "Belfast"91.- ISOLEE - "Beau Mot Plage"90.- ARAB STRAP - "The First Big Weekend"89.- NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - "Hypnotize" 88.- THE MAGNETIC FIELDS - "The Luckiest Guy On the Lower East Side" 87.- PAVEMENT - "Shady Lane"86.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Like A Motorway"85.- SLOWDIVE - "Alison"83.- LAMB - "Gorecki", APHEX TWIN - "Girl/Boy Song"81.- BLUR - "Song 2", DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - "Humpty Dance"79.- DE LA SOUL - "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays", MASSIVE ATTACK - "Angel"78.- THE PIXIES - "Alec Eiffel"77.- EMINEM - "My Name Is"76.- DESTINY'S CHILD - "Say My Name"75.- NAUGHTY BY NATURE - "O.P.P."74.- BASEMENT JAXX - "Rendez-Vu"73.- OASIS - "Live Forever"72.- MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "When You Sleep"71.- THE CURE - "Pictures of You"70.- NOTORIOUS B.I.G. featuring PUFF DADDY and MASE - "Mo Money, Mo Problems"69.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Avenue"68.- SAINT ETIENNE - "You're In A Bad Way"67.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Nothing Can Stop Us"66.- JEFF BUCKLEY - "Hallelujah"65.- PETE ROCK & CL SMOOTH - "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)"64.- ORBITAL - "Halcyon"63.- LL COOL J - "Mama Said Knock You Out"62.- MISSY ELLIOTT - "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"61.- HAPPY MONDAYS - "Kinky Afro"60.- WU-TANG CLAN - "C.R.E.A.M."59.- BJORK - "Joga"58.- PULP - "This Is Hardcore"57.- TLC - "Creep"56.- THE SMASHING PUMPKINS - "Cherub Rock"55.- UNDERWORLD - "Cowgirl"54.- THE KLF - "Last Train To Trancentral"53.- PORTISHEAD - "Sour Times"52.- MADONNA - "Vogue"51.- MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt. II"
― daavid (daavid), Monday, 8 November 2004 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 8 November 2004 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link
So I guess this means that no rave or jungle made it on the list. That's too bad.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 8 November 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
i'm sure SOME rave/jungle will make it, but probably not what i voted for.
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 8 November 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link
But anyway - 'This Is Hardcore' at #58? You fucking idiots.
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Is this definitely in praise of 'Cherub Rock'.
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link
i'm not sure why 'Everlong' is so high!
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
1 Disco Inferno - "Summer's Last Sound"2 Disco Inferno - "The Last Dance"3 Orbital - "Chime"4 Destiny's Child - "Bills, Bills, Bills"5 New Order - "Regret"6 Omni Trio - "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"7 Belle & Sebastian - "Stars of Track and Field"8 My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"9 The House Crew, "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)"10 Saint Etienne - "He's on the Phone"11 Urban Cookie Collective - 'The Key, The Secret'12 Boo Radleys: Lazarus13 Aphex Twin - Girl/Boy Song14 Magnetic Fields - "100,000 Fireflies"15 The Future Sound of London - "Papua New Guinea"16 Sonz of a Loop Da Loop Era – “Far Out”17 Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash"18 Madonna - "Ray of Light"19 Pulp - "Babies"20 The Orb – Little Fluffy Clouds21 2Pac feat. Dr. Dre – “California Love”22 The Prodigy - Everybody IN the Place23 Massive Attack - "Karmacoma"24 Missy Elliott - "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"25 Orbital - "Belfast"26 The KLF - "Last Train to Trancentral"27 Pixies - "Alec Eiffel"28 White Town – Your Woman29 Blame - "2 Bad Mice Take You"30 Avalanches - Electricity
― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 8 November 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 8 November 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 8 November 2004 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 8 November 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 8 November 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Freak Nasty – "Da Dip"2. Bikini Kill - “Rebel Girl”3. De La Soul – “A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays”4. Madonna – “Deeper & Deeper”5. Omni Trio - "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"6. Pulp - "Common People"7. Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash"8. Geto Boys - "Mind Playing Tricks on Me"9. Britney Spears - "Baby One More Time"10. White Town – “Your Woman”
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
I suppose New Radicals isn't about to make it either :( :( :(
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― :| (....), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
01 The Hit Parade – Autobiography02 Pet Shop Boys - Being Boring03 Boo Radleys - Lazarus04 A Tribe Called Quest- Scenario05 Underworld - Born Slippy NUXX06 Deee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart07 The Orb – Little Fluffy Clouds08 Stardust - Music Sounds Better With You09 My Bloody Valentine - Soon10 2Pac feat. Dr. Dre – California Love11 Right Said Fred – I’m Too Sexy12 The Future Sound of London - Papua New Guinea13 Blur – No Distance Left To Run14 2 Bad Mice - Bombscare15 Basement Jaxx - Rendez-Vu (74)16 Daft Punk - Around the World17 KLF and Tammy Wynette - Justified and Ancient18 Pulp - Babies19 Saint Etienne – You’re In A Bad Way (68)20 Slowdive - Alison21 De’Lacy – Hideaway (Deep Dish mix)22 Magnetic Fields - 100,000 Fireflies23 Massive Attack – Angel (79)24 Missy Elliott - The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly) (62)25 The Cardigans – Lovefool26 Belle & Sebastian - The Stars of Track and Field27 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Got Your Money28 Sneaker Pimps - Spin Spin Sugar (Armand's DarkGarage Mix)29 Dr. Dre – Keep Their Heads Ringin’30 Beck - Loser
― rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Eight of mine have appeared so far, including three of my top ten. I guessed that between 18-21 songs on my list would end up in the final 100 so things are basically on schedule.
More than ever, I'm getting the feeling that Pulp dominated this poll.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
gear is there any way you can look up my ballot and tell me what i voted for???
― artiste (artiste), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Only one of my top ten so far, but I figure Aaliyah, Beltram and Omni Trio are shoe ins.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― seryusly, Monday, 8 November 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― thank ya, Monday, 8 November 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― patience, Monday, 8 November 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
ilm 90s singles poll - what did you vote for? ilm 90s singles poll - what did you vote for?
― jb, Monday, 8 November 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
PULP - "Do You Remember the First Time?" (350 points, 22 votes)
http://www.mackers.com/pulpworld/pulp_rememberfirsttime.jpg
comments on this 'un?
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 8 November 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
"Oh Jesus it must be great, to be straight"
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 8 November 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 November 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess we still have "Babies," "Disco 2000" and "Common People" at least to go before the list's end. We might only have "He's on the Phone" left from St. Etienne, at least.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 8 November 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― gearatworkslacking, Monday, 8 November 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
I've read this way back on the thread and I'm still laughing...
oh, and yes, Alba, it was in praise of "Cherub Rock" (though in a dysfunctional kind of way). I completely forgot I wrote this, but I stand by it.
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 November 2004 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link
MAZZY STAR - "Fade Into You" (351 points, 26 votes)
http://www.mattscdsingles.com/acatalog/mazzy%20star%20fade%20gatefold%20promo.jpg
classic, if only for the fact that fade into you is my favorite song of all time -- V
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link
AALIYAH - "One In A Million" (356 points, 15 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00018QJ88.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
The original Aaliyah "One in a Million" changed the face of American pop music. Since its release it has been on my top ten. I remember freaking all my Berkeley friends out listening to it (granted, it was about 1000 times in a row and they were used to hearing MBV blaring). -- Spencer Chow
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
WHITE TOWN - "Your Woman" (356 points, 19 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000761I.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
I just wonder if Momus sat sulking in the ICA cafe the day White Town hit no.1 with 'Your Woman' ? -- flannery culp
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Fukkit.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link
When the Aaliyah track came out, it seemed like US R&B, an incredibly popular yet seemingly closed (even moribund) system of production, had completely reinvented itself. The arrangement was totally unique, showcasing Timbaland's almost drum n bass approach to drum programming (although he denies having heard any dnb prior to recording this track). The eerie almost sci-fi sonics and slow bass with double time snare and hat fills directly influenced countless R&B and then hip-hop and pop releases. Aaliyah's later tracks are denser and more immediate, but "One In a Million" was quite a shot in the dark and made me reconsider R&B completely. I still think it's one of the 10 sexiest songs ever - actually it's just pure sex music of the highest order. It's also a kind of key to a clearer understanding of subsequent Timbaland productions.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link
you're really unbelievable sometimes, Deej. Do you have any idea how unorthodoxly high a placement #48 is for a song like "One in a Million"? I'm shocked it even made it at all--I've never seen it make a 90s poll like this.
I swear, if Breaking Atoms was nominated and made #7 on the list, you'd be bitching about how it should've been top five.
I didn't vote for either "One in a Million" or "Fade Into You" (though I did vote for "Are You That Somebody?") but I'm very pleased to see both of them so high. They certainly deserve it. And "Your Woman" is still only sort of a good song.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess it's not fair to judge based on this, but I hate that smile face he uses. It's the kind that appears on forums with "avatars" and for some reason it always has the effect of getting me mad when someone uses it to try to be concilatory. Anyway, he was even on EMI briefly. How about that?
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link
MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "To Here Knows When" (357 points, 19 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://imusic.artistdirect.com/showcase/rock/photos/mybloodyvalentine.gif
This one right here is the tune that SOLD me on MBV, after several years of denial.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link
BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - "Stars of Track and Field" (365 points, 22 votes)
http://www.lazylinepainterpage.hpg.ig.com.br/imagens/waking2.jpg
comments here?
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link
R.E.M. - "Losing My Religion" (369 points, 26 votes)
http://www.swr3.de/__pix/cover/500x435/2502.jpg
As for Losing My Religion.. it's by far their best single, and the one that will probably be remembered best fifty years from now--may pang
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link
MBV were pretty. That song is amazing.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link
I think I lost my ballot, somewhere.
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link
THE ORB - "Little Fluffy Clouds" (372 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote)
ihttp://www.shima.iplus.to/img/mx/mx028732.jpg
"...what really got me, 'Little Fluffy Clouds'. You can't imagine, or maybe you can, what hearing that for the first time, under the covers in the dark with my headphones on, sounded like."-- Alba
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.shima.iplus.to/img/mx/mx028732.jpg
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― john'n'chiacago, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link
THE MAGNETIC FIELDS - "100,000 Fireflies" (380 points, 21 votes)
http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/org/phoenix/2000/2000-01-20/pics/magnetic_claudia.jpg
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Are you crazy "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)",“The Hitman”, “RIP”, “Dread Bass”, “Open Your Mind”, "Activ-8", "Lords of the Null Lines", "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)", "Bombscare", "Anasthasia" were on my list and I KNOW I cut a bunch of other ones!
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link
BLUR - "Coffee and TV" (387 points, 24 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000JJY6.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
" "Coffee and TV" alone was better than anything off of parklife or modern life is rubbish."--Felcher
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link
ICE CUBE - "It Was A Good Day" (387 points, 25 votes)
http://www.hiponline.com/artist/music/i/ice_cube/ice_cube-bio_tile.jpg
Ice Cube's last great moment, maybe?
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Complete crazy talk.
"I can't believe how weak that Magnetic Fields song sounded when I listend back."
Even more crazy talk. Frankly Stephen Merritt should have probably quit after that song.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link
The superchunk cover is a diservice to the original.
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link
It is with this track that we get our first glimpse of Stephen Merritt's lyrical and musical genius. The line 'You won't be happy with me/ but give me one more chance/ you won't be happy anyway' is both desvastatingly sad and strangely funny. Pure joy!
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― john'n'chicago, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link
How do you know what my favourite rave tracks are?
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― From a Land of Grass Without Mirrors (AaronHz), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't, but "Renegade Snares", "Hitman", "Dred Bass" and "Open Your Mind" should be among everyone's favorite rave tracks!
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link
I was just thinking about this, listening to this song today. I totally forgot to vote for it... but it definitely took the top of my head off on that first listen.
― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link
i've never seen the appeal of "your woman" so it's funny that they tied. funny for me anyway.
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link
Um...considering I think it is easily one of the best songs of the 90s - I certainly enjoy it more than fucking REM - yes, I am filled w/ righteous anger, even though I thought the "insert..." part of the post would make it clear I was hardly SHOCKED by this low ranking.
I'd be very pleased if it made top ten. I don't have unreasonable expections - "One in a Million" is simply a great song and I think its reasonable that on ILM I should expect it to place above #47.
And in case people didn't get it the first time, seriously - fuck REM.
:)
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 05:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 08:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Point is you've got to be reasonable. Even though I think it should be top ten, I'd be positively thrilled to see "Black Metallic" at this point because chances are it didn't make it at all. Lists are never going to look exactly like yours and it's very cool that Aaliyah made it all (and very well might make it again).
Also, cool about Cube (I think #40 is very reasonable) and "Losing My Religion" is by some margin R.E.M.'s finest moment.
― Andrew Unterberger (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
THE KLF (FEATURING TAMMY WYNETTE) - "Justified and Ancient" (392 points, 19 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://hitparade.ch/cdimages/klf-justified_ancient_s.jpg
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
PULP - "Babies" (394 points, 23 votes)
http://www.mackers.com/pulpworld/pulp_babies.jpg
"I always saw it as being totally sincere - he never got past the platonic stage w/ her, and she went off w/ someone else (even tho they both really wanted each other); him having sex with her sister ended any possibilities of this ever changing. I dunno, for me the last line works a lot better as a statement on the irony of the whole chain of events than as him trying to talk himself out of a problematic situation, the idea that neither of them got what they really wanted adds a bit of poignancy to the song, plus it's very in tune with the title ("babies" as a signifier of a lack of maturity, they were all too young to deal with things like they should have.) He sounds very bitter and regretful, and the "it happened years ago" line suggests that he's only thinking back on her, or maybe talking to her after a long time has passed (tho of course they could have been an item during all that time too, so the other interpretation is credible here, too, but I still prefer mine)" -- Daniel_Rf
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Justified And Ancient really has everything - 3-4 minutes, 3-400 great bits. Wynette is so delightful on it esp. her pronunciation of 'Mu Mu Land', the choir is so soothing, the rap so sublime and succinct yet satisfyingly nonsensical, that siren/cowbell thing in the background, the 808 usage, the funky geetaw - all combined with the rich KLF imagery (video and TOTP performance just brilliant), there are other perfect pop songs/moments/concepts but not sure any can TOP this
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
THE PET SHOP BOYS - "Can You Forgive Her?" (397 points, 23 votes)
http://djbrecord.free.fr/petshopboys002.jpg
" "Can You Forgive Her?" is the best thing they ever did. Just huge and bitter and wonderful. As you say, not what you expect in the top 10." -- Jim Eaton-Terry
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
OMNI TRIO - "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)" (399 points, 22 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://www.marshyboy.co.uk/full/ashadow01cd.JPG
" "Renegade Snares"? It's fucking BLINDING..."-- Dan Perry
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I didn't vote for any rave tracks because, like I mentioned upthread, none of my faves were nominated, there was nothing I felt like throwing votes at*, and I felt there were a load of super-awesome non-rave tracks (I had a shortlist of about 80 songs when I started making my list).
*in comparison, on the albums list I threw loads of votes at techno and house albums (about half of my 30), I felt I could stand behind a lot more techno albums than singles.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link
(x-post)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I thought I was more ILM-mainstream than that...
course, I'm still betting that 8 of my top 10 will be top 15... and probably 5 or so others will still chart ...
that'd put me where I thought I was ...
(EMAIL ME DIRECTLY (or start a separate thread) FOR THIS QUESTION)
I'm willing to do the next poll, but I'd rarely jump the smiths, ahem, I mean the 80s for now and go to the 70s... thoughts?
― Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
the 80s poll would hopefully have 'voodoo ray' and 'straight outta compton' in it as well as 'there is a light never goes out' and 'come on eileen'
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
xxpost
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link
it's meant to be ILX SING LES POLL RESULTS - Gear was being joyous and slightly French
okay, that's the worst thing i've ever said
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― RS, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - "Juicy" (401 points, 22 votes)
http://allabout.co.jp/entertainment/soulrb/closeup/CU20020917D/juicy.JPG
"I find "Juicy" by the Notorious BIG to be very sad. Talking about his shitty life growing up & how great he has it now, there's still a strong undercurrent of meloncholy to it (probably coming from the instrumental track), that the riches don't compensate for the pain. The fact that he was dead like three years later makes it worse."--Mark
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
NEW RADICALS - "You Get What You Give" (414 points, 26 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000INL7.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"I love the new radicals cus they are fun and groovy.Some people feel offended by those qualities in music. I have no idea why." -- supercub
"Incidently, he did a song for Hanson on their new album! Apparently he no longer hates them." -- djdee2005
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
is either the best or worst line in rap history
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link
THE PET SHOP BOYS - "Being Boring" (427 points, 22 votes)
http://petshopboysinparis.free.fr/boring.jpg
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.irishmusiccentral.com/mbv/mbv_tremolo.jpg
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
there are so many classic lines in "juicy"
'birthdays were the worst days, now we sip champagne when we thir-stay"
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
“Can You Forgive Her?” – A quick reminder, then: the song is about a gay man, closeted even to himself, whose female lover has guessed the truth about him. The song’s invisible narrator is dragging him back through his past, forcing him to confront his feelings – and his loathing for her and himself – for the first time. Now I know it is incredibly cheesy to talk about ‘adult subjects’ getting into the Top 10 but unlike shitty ooh-its-about-heroin songs like “Perfect Day” this actually is groundbreaking, adult, and brilliantly done: a conflicted psychodrama on a par with the greatest soul music. And the music is magnificent. Lyrical intelligence isn’t a prerequisite for great pop, duh, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore it when it turns up, and nothing like this turned up in the charts again until “Ms Jackson”.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
"Common People" will be #1, of course.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, it depends on what you mean by "skewed" because they're placing a lot of songs but they're placing lower because of split voting.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link
PULP - "Disco 2000" (440 points, 24 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://coverart.last.fm/300x300/4447.jpg
"when the '99-'00, changeover happened I put on Prince "1999" and then followed up with "Disco 2000" for a large party of friends in CA and, while none of them knew it, due to it's being so yearny and pounding and DISCO people were on the verge of tears. it rulez."-- Spencer Chow
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
THE FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - "Papua New Guinea" (441 points, 25 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001D7Q.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
" "Papua New Guinea" stands up as a gorgeous pop record, whether it would work on a dancefloor (or in a chill out room) these days I neither know nor care." -- Tico Tico
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link
How cool is that?
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link
though i'm 100% positive that my #1 (Hit Parade w/ Cath Carroll - "Autobiography") won't place. And I'm having strong doubts about Right Said Fred, 2 Bad Mice and Blur's "No Distance"
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link
OK "Born To Run" minus the bad poetry. "Common People" has grandeur without being grandiose.
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
BRITNEY SPEARS - "Baby One More Time" (441 points, 27 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000JCWV.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"'Baby One More Time' is one of the very best pop tunes of the 1990ies. the impeccably pre-horny max martin production, the hookline, britney's longing vibrato voice, everything is perfect here. this song shits on everything she's made since..."-- Jay Kid
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
the fgth remake would certainly show up in my 80s list - i MUCHLY prefer it to the original
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
your votes got tabbed, I'm at work and don't have much time to post/search for results.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
one of the three tracks I noted as being fretfully absent
"Missing: Primal Scream - Higher Than The SunBlur - This is a lowOpus III - It's A Fine Day"
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
you don't have to tell me (or the poll)!
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I struggled to formulate a question that might have clarified what point you are making here, but gave up!
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
still to this day one of my favorite bright and shimmery tracks - the name fully suits it
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
It's not bad but I think "I'm a slave..." and "Toxic" are way better.
BTW I personally think this is the best poll EVER. I'm thrilled to finally see Saint Etienne and The Pet Shop Boys in a 90's poll.
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
and yeah i'm superglad to see Et and the Pets getting some 90s love... they were some of my biggest loves in the 90s and have remained so to this day
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
i had not heard a single pulp song until they had broken up.i really hate blur with a passion.oasis is meh.i am not from the u.k.
i just think that pulp is fucking great
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I would have put "The Universal" in my top 20, easy.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Haha, so did I. Not that I like Britpop generally - but I quite like Common People, and there was no way I was going to vote for that - it just didn't need my votes.
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link
x-post
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
you ARE me
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Except I missed a lot of stuff off my initial shortlist due to over-enthusiastic pruning of the nominations. Anyway, tactics, schmactics, it's a POLL OF STUFF YOU LIKE!
I haven't got the hang of ILM, have I?
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― DOPESMOKER (smile), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm going to lose a lot of points for this, but the more I listen to "Common People" the more it sounds to me like self-righteous, hypocritical, Albarn-esque snarkiness. It's still a fabulous song but I just don't feel it at the moment. Leaning much more towards Cocker's naive, whimsical side ("Babies," D2000) than his working class hero act recently.
Also, I was very much under the impression that "Energy Flash" was not nominated. I certainly would have voted for it if it was.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
'Toxic' is my favourite of all, by far, though, so I'm not sure how far this mindmeld extends.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Me too, though I can't really explain why. 'Common People' is like going to the opera, maybe. It's just too much to casually enjoy as the singalong anthem that everyone else seems to be able to treat it as.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Probably still to come:
Unfinished SympathyGroove is in the HeartMusic Sounds Better With YouAre You That Somebody? LoserMind Playing Tricks on MeNuthin' But a G Thang
Possibly still to come:
RegulateRegretSuper GoingChimeWeb in FrontThe Last Dance
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
I like the songs where Brit's inability to sing is an asset rather than a hindrance (this is why all of the banging dance tunes where she's used as a sound-effect are great and the mid-tempo pop numbers and the ballads don't work at all).
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Unfinished SympathyGroove is in the HeartAre You That Somebody? RegulateRegretChime
Probably still to come:LoserNuthin' But a G ThangMusic Sounds Better With You
Possibly still to come: Mind Playing Tricks on Me
Not still to come:Super GoingWeb in FrontThe Last Dance
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― RS, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link
By everyone, do you mean those "common" people, Alba? (I used to have exactly the same problem with "Design for Life", then realised I didn't actually give a shit why other people liked it as it made no difference to whether I liked it or not)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:08 (nineteen years ago) link
It's just that it's too histrionic and big a song to listen to casually, for me, even on my own.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, here's my prediction for the rest. It could be way, way, way off, this was a hard one to peg.
29. Daft Punk - "Da Funk"28. Warren G. f/ Nate Dogg - "Regulate"27. Boredoms - "Super Going"26. Disco Inferno - "Summer's Last Sound"25. Radiohead - "Airbag"24. Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker"23. Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'"22. Boo Radleys - "Lazarus"21. Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"20. Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?" 19. Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash"18. Belle and Sebastian - "The State I Am In"17. Bjork - "Hyperballad"16. Depeche Mode - "Enjoy the Silence"15. Geto Boys - "Mind Playin' Tricks on Me"14. Beck - "Loser"13. Blur - "For Tomorrow"12. Disco Inferno - "The Last Dance"11. Breeders - "Cannonball"10. Saint Etienne - "He's on the Phone"9. Dr. Dre - "Nuthin' But a "G" Thang"8. My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"7. Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy"6. Deee-Lite - "Groove is in the Heart"5. Stardust - "Music Sounds Better With You"4. Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"3. Underworld - "Born Slippy (Nuxx)"2. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"1. Pulp - "Common People"
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Maybe the "Enjoy the Silence" prediction is just wishful thinking on my part (my #1).
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway I'm really weirded out by the high placement of that britney song, and I have trouble imagining that SO many people really honestly think its that good of a song, and that many of its votes aren't just a reaction to rockist dismissals of britney by ppl like rentboy.
Anyway I sure don't like it, and it's no where near as good as Toxic or I'm A Slave or, yes, Genie in a Bottle.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure at least one DP song will make it, whether it'll be "Da Funk" or "Around the World" is anyone's guess.
I don't see "California Love" as a lock at all. Maybe it'll be there but it's not definite.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link
(mega mega x post)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess it just gets a lot of credit for being the first.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Back to 'Common People' - even if I can hum along to the first bit, by the time it gets to the "Like a dog lying in a corner" bit, no - I don't want to be turned inside out again like that every time.
Funnily enough, I can listen to my favourite Pulp song of all ('The Fear') as many times as I like. Maybe it's because it doesn't pretend to be all bouncy. I dunno.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Incidently to be clear - I'm not questioning that some people don't love that Britney song, just that the consensus would be so widespread among people that otherwise worship at the alter of Paranoid Android seems a little suspect. (And I find it hard to believe that Britney would rank so high w/out SOME overlap between radiohead-heads and pop-heads).
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Dr. Bill's predictions look good (he did a really good job with his 00's poll predictions too), but I don't know about Neutral Milk Hotel and two Disco Inferno songss ...
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Which isn't to say that I like it because it sounds like Radiohead, but because I'm a sucker for certain chord progressions, no matter their source.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
I had "Paranoid Android" and "Where Are You Baby" in my top ten. Obviously I was one of the Britney voters. I don't do anti-rockism or irony in my taste in music.
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
whoah whoah whoah, did i just get called a "rockist"???hahahaha so far from right. take another look at my top 10, k?thnx
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
I hope against hope I'm wrong about "Chime". It is indeed "one of those classic singles" but I think its reputation has been eclipsed by the other two since. Once again, very hopeful that I'm wronga bout that.
DI vote splitting is a good point, which I think will kill the chances of "It's a Kid's World," "Love Stepping Out" and possibly "Summer's Last Sound," but I think that "The Last Dance" has a reputation strong enough to crossover to the lists of non DI obsessives (such as myself) as well, which I don't think the others have.
"Super Going" is my favorite Boredoms song and the only Boredoms song nominated. If VCN's ridiculously high placing on the 00s poll is any indication, I think their fanbase is strong enough to put "Super Going" into the 20s, but the anonymity of the specific song to non-obsessives (as you just proved) might hurt it too much. It's a toss-up.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link
well, yeah. it's clear his dad probably couldn't "stop at all," probably just write him a nice christmas check.
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link
". . . But I'm not sure the American public is in fact that well acquainted with Pulp."
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I know next to nothing about Neutral Milk Hotel, but aren't they more of an albums band? Is this 'Two-Headed Boy' far and away their best song, like 'Super Going'?
'Lazarus'? No way.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
No way on "Lazarus," Scott? Boo Radleys love is strong here, and I thought "Lazarus" was by some margin the consensus Boos song of choice. I could be wrong, but I think it at least has a chance.
I forgot "Regret" in my prediction, stupidly enough. It'll probably make it.
I might be wrong about the two D.I. songs, MiR, but if history has taught me one thing, it's to never underestimate the vote of the corny indie fuxx. And as such, "Two-Headed Boy" is a near lock (and yes, I think it's considered to be far and away their best song, and also was the only one nominated).
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link
(has this been said elsewhere on ILX in the last week?)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
03 Boo Radleys - Lazarus 04 A Tribe Called Quest - Scenario 05 Underworld - Born Slippy NUXX 06 Deee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart 08 Stardust - Music Sounds Better With You 09 My Bloody Valentine - Soon 10 2Pac feat Dr. Dre – California Love 16 Daft Punk - Around the World 25 The Cardigans – Lovefool 27 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Got Your Money 30 Beck - Loser
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
nice effect on the vocal though
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
I know along with Digable Planets, Black Sheep and De La Soul, Tribe's "Scenario" was fairly responsible for my first "love" with 90s hiphop. i would guess i'm not alone there, but who knows?
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Good point about "No Diggity," Scott--that's definitely possible, though like Cali Love, I'm not certain it's a lock. "Got Your Money," like "Shimmy Shimmy Ya," has virtually no chance.
I didn't say (or mean to imply) that D.I. will get the CIF vote--just Neutral Milk Hotel. But they'll get it in spades.
"Black Steel" and "Laid" are very outside possibilities. "Laid" has virtually no chance, "Black Steel" I suppose could happen but is very unlikely.
"Lovefool" could actually be another sleeper.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
The corny indie fuc contingent have probably never even heard "Portishead".
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Is it that it's too British, or just not American enough?
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
btw, Gear, you rock for doing this. You had a lot more shit to tally than I did for the OMG poll so I know this was a LOT of work. Good job!
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
jaymc - cuz the brits all pretty much agree on what was british and good, yanks have amerindie vs. hip-hop vs. anglophile (those traitors!) divides.
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Why I oughta put you over my knee.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
fuck you, take that back.
o come on miccio if you were at a party and this was the playlist so far you know that party would be sucking
yeah but ladies like the B&S at the crib. and it wasn't the WYLDEST JAMZ of the 90s.
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm holding out hope for "Laid" ... it's an extremely well-known song, even if it does scream "STUDENT PUB NIGHT" for most of us I think it's still a vote-getter.
(I nominated it, too :) )
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
OL' DIRTY BASTARD (FEATURING KELIS) - "Got Your Money" (447 points, 27 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00003CLUO.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"Got Your Money is just about the best song ever, which is saying quite a lot - do you know how many songs there have been? I'll tell you, a lot."-- Ally
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
and I think people are ignoring how diverse this list has been. Poppin' a hernia everytime an indie track comes along and looking the other way when Biggie flies by.
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
I agree, but to me "Sour Times" should have been #1 or #2 and "All Mine" should have at least made the top 100.
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
Why do people insist on pretending they only have one criterion for what makes good music, or even a good party?
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
(For a lot of us, the 1990s represented our teenage years. To be a British teenager in the 1990s, I gather, meant having an opinion about Pulp. To be an American teenager in the 1990s meant it just never came up, and while we may have later sought out 90s British acts, we have nothing to be nostalgic for.)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah I guess it's possible but I think James' reputation hasn't exactly held up. No one talks about them anymore except in a nostalgic or "what were we thinking?" context. Great song, though--should've been top 100, though I'd say top 30 is a bit strong.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
people who get upset that there is ANY indie rock in the chart >>>>>>>> people who voted for indie rock
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Damn - I nominated Brooklyn Zoo and Shimmy Shimmy Ya. Guess they're not showing up.
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
UNDERWORLD - "Born Slippy NUXX" (462 points, 28 votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003RJJ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"I think it was really quite unconventional and not quite traditional given its style and approach. using the Underworld formula but transporting it into the mainstream i thought was bizarre. it was a success but i remember being quite amazed when 'born slippy' went in at number 2, despite the Trainspotting connection - i think Underworld were really out on their own with their tracks then because no-one else was using lyrics like that with hard techno-based dance music and drawing parallels and joining the dots in observing, describing and defining life experiences previously only talked about in rock/punk/indie/jazz/rap/whatever but now contextualised within modern music designed to dance to and so technology-reliant"-- stevem
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
that's just ODB wandering into the lobby
― amateur!!st, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link
So true. "WTF IF RADIOHEAD OR WILCO MAKE THIS LIST IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF"
"Got Your Money" making it and "Born Slippy (Nuxx)" being #28 = all bets are off for the rest of the list.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
27 Ol' Dirty Bastard - Got Your Money (actual: 29)
that's as close as i've come
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
The original version on the single is 100 X better, of course.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link
TRICKY - "Black Steel" (463 points, 22 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://www.moon-palace.de/pics/tricky/bsposter1a.jpg
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
the original born slippy is actually quite different. no lyrics at all. different synth sounds etc. (i like the original better)
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
"Black Steel" now. I look like a total fucking jackass.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Completely, totally, eternally OTM.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
SAINT ETIENNE - "He's On the Phone" (471 pts, 23 votes, 1 first place)
http://www.saint.etienne.net/ec/Hes_On_The_Phone.3.jpg
" "He's On the Phone" was St. Etienne's big "upmarket" single. There is no reason why that couldn't have been a massive hit. Its unabashed lack of indie cred is the best thing about it. "-- Barry Bruner
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
2PAC - "California Love" (490 points, 28 votes)
http://morning365.nefficient.co.kr/cd_img/20020404145248949.jpg
"California Love, odd it'd come up because once my parents let go of their iron-anti-rap grip that'd developed from about 88 - 94 or 95, I played that song non-stop. There are no rap songs besides California Love. I could be shot dead this instant, and if California Love was playing, I'd die happy. In fact, I'd go so far to say that there are virtually no other songs, period, besides California Love. Genius - when the bass and piano come swaggering in like John Wayne on a bender, it's simply the best moment ever and I never tire of it."-- Ally
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link
OTM re: Only Love Can Break Your Heart, Avenue (and throw in Who Do You Think You Are for good measure)
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
DEPECHE MODE - "Enjoy the Silence" (494 points, 30 votes, 3 first place votes)
http://music.porkrind.org/Depeche%20Mode/Enjoy%20The%20Silence/cover.jpg
"'Violator' = delicious. The only reason I would lose interest after that record would be to fall into a deep funk when I realize I may never hear a song quite as perfect as "Enjoy the Silence" ever again."--Clarke B.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Bullshit.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
DAFT PUNK - "Da Funk" (495 points, 27 votes)
http://www.thefirstcut.net/dafdaf.jpghttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/benjamingouzien/images/clips/daftpunkdafunk.jpg
"The best thing is, oddly, that 'Da Funk' is one of those tracks that sounds incredible no matter what speed you play it at. Speed it up a little, and it's amazing. Slow it down, it *still* sounds great..."-- Paul Strange
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
i'd actually tend to agree, maybe adding in the Pet Shop Boys to that list
― rentboy (rentboy), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
As for Saint Etienne, I'd say "Like a Motorway" and "Nothing Can Stop Us" were both deserving, but "He's on the Phone" really isn't so great.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
THE CARDIGANS - "Lovefool" (500 pts, 31 votes, 3 first place)
http://www.swr3.de/__pix/cover/500x435/3685.jpg
" "Lovefool" is perfect on so many levels." -- nickalicious
"I never realized that Coolio was lamenting the lack of "Lovefool" in his life."-- roxymuzak (in response to "Gangsta's Paradise" lyrics)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
If Everlong doesn't make it I swear to God I am gonna kill all you motherfuckers.
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - "The State I Am In"
(520 pts, 24 votes, 2 first place)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000007WND.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"The lyric to 'The State I Am In' is quite good. The scene in the opening verse is fantastic and original. The part about the crippled child bride is puzzling and hard to phantom (as Mandee likes to say) -dependence, resentment, the self-serving aspect in helping others. It reminds me of Symphony Pastorale and The Sweet Hereafter."-- youn
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
OTM.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― uh oh, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link
-- tricky (trick...), November 9th, 2004. (later)
No.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
20. Kelis - "Get Along With You"19. Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'" 18 Radiohead - Aibag17. Geto Boys - "Mind Playin' Tricks on Me" 16. Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?" 15 Magnetic Fields - "10000 Fireflies"14 Leftfield - 'Open Up'13. Belle and Sebastian - "The State I Am In" 12. Warren G. f/ Nate Dogg - "Regulate" 11. Beck - "Loser" 10. Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker" 9. Sinead O'Connor - "Nothining Compares 2U"8. Breeders - "Cannonball" 7. Dr. Dre - "Nuthin' But a "G" Thang" 6. My Bloody Valentine - "Soon" 5. Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy" 4. Deee-Lite - "Groove is in the Heart" 3. Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit" 2. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android" 1. Pulp - "Common People"
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
WTF vote for "Cumbersome" why doncha jesus m crow wtf.
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
20. Kelis - "Get Along With You"19. Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'" 18 Radiohead - "Airbag"17. Orbital - "Chime"16. Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?" 15. Stardust - "Music Sounds Better With You"14. Leftfield - 'Open Up'13. Dr. Dre - "Nuthin' But a "G" Thang" 12. Foo Fighters - "Everlong"11. Warren G. f/ Nate Dogg - "Regulate" 10. Beck - "Loser" 9. Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker" 8. Sinead O'Connor - "Nothing Compares 2U"7. Breeders - "Cannonball" 6. My Bloody Valentine - "Soon" 5. Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy" 4. Deee-Lite - "Groove is in the Heart" 3. Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit" 2. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android" 1. Pulp - "Common People"
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link
did anybody else vote for "Ice Ice Baby"? It didn't make the OMGWTFLOL list and I'd hate to think it doesn't get a nod in either canon.
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
sigh. i know.
― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link
I definitely regret voting for "Common People" (although it was around 25 or so if I remember correctly) but I had no idea this poll would end with a giant sick brit-pop lovefest/orgy.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link
B-b-but i didn't encounter Jarvis. I stood him up! (Yes, I do like Pulp, but I had somewhere else to be and he was late. This, I should point out, was for an interview and not for a date).
I hate that people are regretting voting for things just because other people did. Common People is going to win because lots of people liked it. Deal with it.
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh come on people were predicting that "Common People" would be #1 from like the get go.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
What? We've got the top 20 still to go and the only track you could call Britpop is 'Common People'.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link
#1
MENSWEAR - "Nuisance" (2352 points, 76 votes, 15 first place votes)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link
MENSWEAR - "Nuisance" (2352 points, 76 votes, 15 first place votes) I think you're bluffing.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah obviously and I don't really have any problem with that I LIKE it its a great song but the whole st. etienne - pulp - pet shop boys thing has left a great distaste in my mouth.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link
100.- PALACE MUSIC - "New Partner",AIR - "All I Need"99.- MADONNA - "Deeper and Deeper",TEENAGE FANCLUB - "The Concept"97.- WU-TANG CLAN - "Shame On A Nigga"96.- BEASTIE BOYS - "Intergalactic"95.- MADONNA - "Ray of Light"94.- CORNERSHOP - "Brimful of Asha"92.- BJORK - "Human Behaviour",ORBITAL - "Belfast"91.- ISOLEE - "Beau Mot Plage"90.- ARAB STRAP - "The First Big Weekend"89.- NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - "Hypnotize"88.- THE MAGNETIC FIELDS - "The Luckiest Guy On the Lower East Side"87.- PAVEMENT - "Shady Lane"86.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Like A Motorway"85.- SLOWDIVE - "Alison"83.- LAMB - "Gorecki",APHEX TWIN - "Girl/Boy Song"81.- BLUR - "Song 2",DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - "Humpty Dance"79.- DE LA SOUL - "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays",MASSIVE ATTACK - "Angel"78.- THE PIXIES - "Alec Eiffel"77.- EMINEM - "My Name Is"76.- DESTINY'S CHILD - "Say My Name"75.- NAUGHTY BY NATURE - "O.P.P."74.- BASEMENT JAXX - "Rendez-Vu"73.- OASIS - "Live Forever"72.- MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "When You Sleep"71.- THE CURE - "Pictures of You"70.- NOTORIOUS B.I.G. featuring PUFF DADDY and MASE - "Mo Money, Mo Problems"69.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Avenue"68.- SAINT ETIENNE - "You're In A Bad Way"67.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Nothing Can Stop Us"66.- JEFF BUCKLEY - "Hallelujah"65.- PETE ROCK & CL SMOOTH - "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)"64.- ORBITAL - "Halcyon"63.- LL COOL J - "Mama Said Knock You Out"62.- MISSY ELLIOTT - "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"61.- HAPPY MONDAYS - "Kinky Afro"60.- WU-TANG CLAN - "C.R.E.A.M."59.- BJORK - "Joga"58.- PULP - "This Is Hardcore"57.- TLC - "Creep"56.- THE SMASHING PUMPKINS - "Cherub Rock"55.- UNDERWORLD - "Cowgirl"54.- THE KLF - "Last Train To Trancentral"53.- PORTISHEAD - "Sour Times"52.- MADONNA - "Vogue"51.- MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt. II"50.- PULP - "Do You Remember the First Time?"49.- MAZZY STAR - "Fade Into You"47.- AALIYAH - "One In A Million"WHITE TOWN - "Your Woman"46.- MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "To Here Knows When"45.- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - "Stars of Track and Field"44.- R.E.M. - "Losing My Religion"43.- THE ORB - "Little Fluffy Clouds"42.- THE MAGNETIC FIELDS - "100,000 Fireflies"40.- BLUR - "Coffee and TV" ICE CUBE - "It Was A Good Day"39.- THE KLF (FEATURING TAMMY WYNETTE) - "Justified and Ancient"38.- PULP - "Babies"37.- PET SHOP BOYS - "Can You Forgive Her?"36.- OMNI TRIO - "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"35.- THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - "Juicy"34.- NEW RADICALS - "You Get What You Give"33.- PET SHOP BOYS - "Being Boring"32.- PULP - "Disco 2000"30.- FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - "Papua New Guinea"BRITNEY SPEARS - "Baby One More Time"29.- OL' DIRTY BASTARD (FEATURING KELIS) - "Got Your Money"28.- UNDERWORLD - "Born Slippy NUXX"27.- TRICKY - "Black Steel"26.- SAINT ETIENNE - "He's On the Phone"25.- 2PAC - "California Love"24.- DEPECHE MODE - "Enjoy the Silence" 23.- DAFT PUNK - "Da Funk"22.- THE CARDIGANS - "Lovefool"21.- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - "The State I Am In"
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Hey, you've been upbraiding us for the election of Bush over on ILE (which is baffling to me since you guys have Blair.) We can give you a little shit about how crappy this poll is turning out.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Granted, there are more hip-hop aritsts represented ... this is a different issue, however.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link
And there hasn't been a single hip-hop artist, or even hip-hop PRODUCER who's had FIVE cuts on this list, so don't give me that either.
And obviously like Alex said - "just cuz it's what people voted for doesn't mean I have to like it."
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link
20. Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker"19. Blackstreet f/ Dr. Dre - "No Diggity" 18. Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"17. Disco Inferno - "The Last Dance"16. Radiohead - "Airbag" (though it'll be pretty fucking weak if this makes it, of course it probably will) 15. Warren G. f/ Nate Dogg - "Regulate"14. Blur - "For Tomorrow"13. Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'"12. Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?" 11. Geto Boys - "Mind Playin' Tricks on Me"10. Beck - "Loser"9. Breeders - "Cannonball"8. Dr. Dre - "Nuthin' But a "G" Thang"7. My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"6. Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy"5. Deee-Lite - "Groove is in the Heart"4. Stardust - "Music Sounds Better With You"3. Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"2. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"1. Pulp - "Common People"
possible:
Mark Morrison - "Return of the Mack" Bjork - "Hyperballad"
Leftfield - "Open Up" Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash" Orbital - "Chime" Sinnead O'Connor - "Nothing Compares 2 U"
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Man, where the FUCK are all the Disco Inferno records???
There were three DI tracks nominated, I think. I guess they're just not big enough to withstand that kind of vote split.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link
I pretty much agree with Alex in SF but i'm past getting annoyed by it.
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link
is this based on exit polls? because my natural inclination is to say "caucasian, please."
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link
I think maybe a lot of people left their US indierock choices for the albums poll. We'll see.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
I think "Nothing Compares" and "Chime" will make it instead. Particularly "Chime" ... there are way too many Orbital fans around here for that one to be left out.(xpost)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
This is definitely an interesting list. I'll hold off final judgement until the top twenty is revealed, because that could change a lot (especially if "Chime" or "Energy Flash" miraculously make the list).
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link
I agree that neither it or "Windowlicker" are locks, however. I hesitate to use the term "lock" at this point for anything except "Groove is in the Heart" and "Common People". I won't even use it for "Smells Like Teen Spirit".
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Ha bloody ha.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
There are no britpop heavies! You are all alone at night.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Geto Boys are certainly a lock, since all the h-h heads decided in advance to push it as far up as we could.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link
that's pretty lame.
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Really? I guess we'll see. I didn't vote for "For Tomorrow," though. Actually, though Blur is my favorite band of the decade, I didn't vote for them in either poll. The wrong songs and albums were nominated.
not only does that revelation make it a false victory, it also points out the absurdity of taking high poll standing on a music forum as a "victory."
No offense, Anthony, but if this is your attitude, what are you doing in this thread?
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shane (Shane), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link
ah see, personally that stuff only diminshes what I find interesting: genuine and heretofore unknown consensus.
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
And I was being sarcastic with my 1/3 comment. I'm only sort of a horrible person.
And Gear, it looks like the 25-30 points you dropped on "Belfast" got it on the list. Bravo.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link
I dunno, I like Everclear, Weezer and Local H a whole lot. I even dig some Verve Pipe and the Stone Temple Pilots Tiny Music singles. The bands who took the basic Nirvana sound and made it more lyrically coherent are cool. The draggier Pearl Jamy stuff though, blech. And Bush would be cool if Gavin Rossdale wasn't such a bad singer/lyricist.
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link
For the record, if "The Freshmen" was on this list I might've voted for it. That song gives me chills.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't get the comments about the US rock vote. Hardly any US rock was even nominated, was it? I mean, normally for any poll like this you'd have plenty of Soundgarden and Pearl Jam and Jane's and Metallica, not to mention hits like "No Rain". Was Fugazi nominated?
Do Saint Etienne sound like the Cardigans?
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link
NB MIR I think it might have more to do with how perceive the relative worth of hip-hop and UK weiner-pop than with the actual mathematical proportions of their representations.
Is "Lovefool" tweepop? I thought Cub was tweepop.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Every time that I look in the mirrorAll these lines on my face getting clearerThe past is goneIt went by like dusk to dawnIsn't that the wayEverybody's got their dues in life to pay
I know nobody knowsWhere it comes and where it goesI know it's everybody's sinYou got to lose to know how to win
Half my life's in books' written pagesLive and learn from fools and from sagesYou know it's trueAll the things come back to you
Sing with me sing for the yearsSing for the laughter and sing for the tearsSing with me if it's just for todayMaybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away
Sing with me sing for my yearSing for my laughter and sing for my tearSing with me if it's just for todayMaybe tomorrow the good Lord will take you away
Dream on dream on dream onDream yourself a dream come trueDream on dream on dream onDream until your dream comes trueDream on dream on dream on dream onDream on dream on dream on yeah
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― a banana (alanbanana), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link
dj: I'm sure lots of Americans voted for those artists, too.
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link
If I remember correctly, St. Etienne got The Cardigans producer for their 4th album, Good Humor. And I guess in that particular album they do sound a bit like The Cardigans.
― daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link
Saint Etienne - C/D?
― youngn (ndeyoung), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link
maybe british music was better in the 90's. gasp.
And that's just bullshit.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:31 (nineteen years ago) link
their "alternative rock" music has held up better than american rock has.
all that america has, in my opinion, is rap and hip hop.
i am not a huge rap/hip hop person, but i did still vote for 5 tracks, one at number 2.
also, england had trip-hop
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
But isn't Endtroducing the best trip-hop album ever made by a longshot?
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
2xpost Private Press pwns it.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 05:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:18 (nineteen years ago) link
(ok this is a total tangent if people want to discuss this further some DJ shadow thread should probably be revived)
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link
I love Portishead.
"Western Eyes" > "Sour Times" > "All Mine"
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:25 (nineteen years ago) link
On a sidenote, WHO the FUCK would EVER vote for a piece of generic American emoesque indie-rock crap like "Web in Front"!?!?
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Here's something interesting. When all the new european critics was going nuts over eurodance in the mid 90s, a DJ named screw was redefining hip-hop in Houston and music today outside of Houston is just beginning to feel its effects. I'm not hugely familiar w/ miami bass, but that shit was going on at the same time as revolutionary NYC hip-hop that already gets well-deserved props.
I'm not saying that european music from this period sucks - in fact, I've bought some st. etienne and pulp specifically because of Scott PL's recommendations in the past. And I've discovered lots of european dance music that I like because of ILM and Simon Reynold's generation ecstasy.
But seriously, this myth about european music in the early 90s somehow being "better" or "more progressive" than its American counterparts is bullshit; this was a fertile period in the U.S. in a lot of different ways, and there is tons of u.s. music from the 90s that is not represented in this poll. Not that I'm surprised- obviously, this board is british based (originally) and its not like i expected miami bass and southern hip-hop (geto boys excepted) to get nods. But yo - this american-music-sucks thing about the early 90s is some crazy talk.
namean?
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link
i have heard plenty of early 90's rap and none of it really resonated with me. it is ok, but gritty new york hip hop is just more to my liking. i downloaded 'mind playing tricks on me' when the nominations were put out because there was some buzz here about it. it didnt do anything for me. maybe i had to listen to it back when it was put out, but truthfully, if i dont like it now, i am not putting it on the list. i really liked soundgarden in the 90's, but now i find them to be annoying so therefore i didnt vote for them.
i voted for what i liked. i also stand by the idea that the european songs/albums that are listed have held up better than the stuff that did not make the list.
you may disagree, but you really arent going to convince me or anyone.
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 06:51 (nineteen years ago) link
And I had already said: But seriously, this myth about european music in the early 90s somehow being "better" or "more progressive" than its American counterparts is bullshit;
And trying to say its somehow "aged" better is fucking stupid, just because Pulp resonated with you back when you were a little kid who called his mom "mum" and his pants "knickers" doesn't mean that the geto boys didn't resonate with a lot of other people.
And that's my criticism of this list, why I don't really feel it. Holding those bands up as the pentultimate achievement of the 90s reeks of whitewashing.
Now obviously this is a poll so you know, whatever - what people like is what people like. But to suggest that this period of british music was inherently "better" or "more progressive" than its counterparts in america is bullshit. I mean, I'm not saying hip-hop was more important, I'm saying that at the very least it is equally as important. If you hadn't even heard "Mind Playing Tricks" until now, how can you know that Euro music has "aged" better? You clearly haven't really engaged with American music too much anyway.
And I "gritty new york hip-hop" fits under the column of "early 90s rap". And also mid 90s, and late 90s, and even now to a degree (although much less so)
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:04 (nineteen years ago) link
the british music of the 90's SOUNDS BETTER TO ME THAN AMERICAN MUSIC OF THE SAME PERIOD. it has held up better to my ears and to the ears most of the people on this message board it seems (although the top twenty will probably make your hissy fit seem completely ridiculous because there isnt a whole lot of british hits left to be listed).
i listened to a lot of alternative rock in the 90's. i also listened to some rap. but the problem is that mtv and the radio were my only mediums for music since i wasnt old enough to be buying music. i am sorry if that doesnt meet your expectations. i am sorry i wasnt there to "experience" it when it happened. i only know so much. you like rap, i like scarfpop. i appreciate rap for what it is and have tried to like it on a higher level, but it just isnt happening. i hope you have done the same with the stuff on my singles list. i just think its ridiculous for you to be so righteous about your music tastes to call an entire message board out about it.
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:23 (nineteen years ago) link
And I never questioned your taste you can like whatever you like.I'm not calling anyone out.
I'm just saying that I think its weird how much british music from this period ppl are throwing up here.
And if you want to turn this into "I'm right that this period was better for the british music because most people here agree" then I'll just turn around and point to how little effect Pulp had on American radio and how little their influence is being felt in today's american pop music (when compared with screw or miami bass)
No one is questioning your right to like whatever you like. Its just a list of music and I have a right to say that I wish there were more people on ILM representing for (insert artist here).
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:28 (nineteen years ago) link
should read
I'm just saying that I think its weird how much british music with a very similar aesthetic from this period ppl are throwing up here.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link
regarding the influence on current music... i think that european dance music has a great influence on neptunes type production in rap music.
also, the fact that miami bass and screw have so much influence in the last few years... maybe thats why i am not really interested in a lot of music these last few years.
this board is england-based. i expect british bands to fair well. just as the sound opinions board is chicago-based so there will be a lot of wilco love. wishing that there is more southern rap on a list from england is kinda laughable actually. sad too.
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:49 (nineteen years ago) link
JAY-Z - "Big Pimpin'" (523 points, 31 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004U8ZQ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link
dont question my music tastes unless you really know them.
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 07:59 (nineteen years ago) link
And I also said multiple times that there is britpop that I like.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:03 (nineteen years ago) link
DAFT PUNK - "Around the World" (538 points, 36 votes)
http://transbenik.free.fr/Daft/around2.JPG
" "Around The World" had that typically early 80s 4/4 drum beat with handclaps and a Linn-sounding drum machine type og drum sound. The synths were present in techno before it too, but then they would have more like either the standard 2/2 trance beat with roughly the same emphasis on bass drum and snare drum, or they would have breakbeats. "Around The World" was a revival of the more typical early 80s sound in that matter."-- Geir Hongro
(?)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:07 (nineteen years ago) link
DR. DRE - "Nuthin' But A G Thang" (561 points, 33 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/dr_dre.jpg
"Although it's not trumpeted about as such, I fully believe that "Ain't Nuthin Like a G Thang" had just as powerful an impact on modern music as did "Smells Like Teen Spirit". I still get all woohoo and shit when "...G Thang" comes on the radio..."-- nickalicious
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:15 (nineteen years ago) link
So what you're saying is that you would have wanted ppl to vote for stuff *you* like, instead of stuff they like, so *your* tastes would have been better reflected on the list.Uh-huh.
― Vasquesz, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:16 (nineteen years ago) link
SINEAD O'CONNOR - "Nothing Compares 2 U" (578 points, 32 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://sineadoconnor.safeway.sk/discography/cds/1990/nothing_compares_2_u_big.jpg
"Sinead's "Nothing Compares 2 U" ... simply a stunning song. Whenever I hear it in a public space I retreat within myself and can only pay attention to the music. Recently my parents were visiting town, and my mother was talking on and on in a bakery and yet I was completely elsewhere, wrapped up in this as it trailed out of the ceiling speakers..."-- Dare
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:26 (nineteen years ago) link
STARDUST - "Music Sounds Better With You" (581 points, 34 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000DAHL.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
Few tracks in the '90s were better and I think teh poll reflects that, yep
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link
sinead's 'nc2u' blows any of prince's away
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― :| (....), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:34 (nineteen years ago) link
MASSIVE ATTACK - "Unfinished Sympathy" (590 points, 34 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://212.85.103.226/massiveattack/massiveattack/img/dyskografia/unfinishedsympathy7.jpg
" "Unfinished Sympathy" is a deeply brilliant song on almost every level I can think of; singing, arrangement, production, rhythm, the video, its influence on the music scene, etc etc."--Dan Perry
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link
ILM and its Daft Punk worship ...
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:43 (nineteen years ago) link
BECK - "Loser" (592 points, 34 votes)
http://www.oi.co.kr/new_admin/cd_pictures_new/02001900011.gif
"I had a taped version of Loser by Beck off the radio, and for some reason they cut it off after the first verse, so I listened and listened to that tape and memorized the whole first verse, and then when I heard the whole song my mind expanded, and now I'm omnipotent." -- NA
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:44 (nineteen years ago) link
That bottom 50 was exceptionally tight though, with all those ties.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:46 (nineteen years ago) link
AALIYAH - "Are You That Somebody?" (599 points, 32 votes, 3 first place votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000G6J4.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg(christ)
having some trouble finding comments for this one, dammit.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 08:56 (nineteen years ago) link
NIRVANA - "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (615 points, 30 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://ubl.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drd500/d510/d510346t4u2.jpg
"If you can not still turn up the fuckin' stereo and feel that "feeling" to the opening chords of "Smells Like Teen-spirit" then stop being a Rock Snob and trade your copies of Nevermind and In Utero and Bleach in at the used CD shoppe (maybe they'll go to a good home, you can keep Unplugged to play at Tuesday's wine and cheese party)and see if you can get a pristine copy of Mozart's Requiem to play at your funeral 'cause Baby, it's O-V-E-R."-- Speedy Gonzalas
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link
BLACKSTREET - "No Diggity" (616 points, 31 votes, 2 first place votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006TGV.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"Riley was interviewed by MTV years back and mentioned how the track was laying down the foundations for a 'heavier r n' b' sound. the guitar lick and 'mmm hmmm' vocal are lifted straight from old blues and you get the impression Moby has spent a while now trying to imitate what they've done here. addding a Dre style beat and the ragtime-ish piano...its such a great hook - total head nodding booty shaking stuff."--blueski
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, "from the Dr Dolittle soundtrack" says it all, really.
― Vasquesz, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:13 (nineteen years ago) link
some who have showed up show up again, some who have never showed up finally make an appearance, and some you really think are gonna make it are buried somewhere down around #118 or #146...
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Tim Finney (tfinne...), November 10th, 2004 4:00 AM. (later)
No. It might make some sense if it was "Black People".
-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...), November 10th, 2004 4:03 AM. (lat
This is such a brilliant idea. Someone should do an amended cover version and make no attempt to make it scan properly.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link
10. New Order -- Regret9. Orbital -- Chime8. Daft Punk -- Da Funk7. Geto Boys - "Mind Playin' Tricks on Me"6. Breeders - "Cannonball"5. Warren G. f/ Nate Dogg - "Regulate"4. My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"3. Deee-Lite - "Groove is in the Heart"2. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"1. Pulp - "Common People"
Although I have very little confidence in these guesses -- I didn't expect a lot of those tracks to place this high. Swapping most of #11-20 with 1-10 is closer to what I was thinking.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link
PEARL JAM - "Bugs" (3262 points, 103 votes, 19 first place votes)
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― That girl with the hair was hot (Jacob), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Deep Blue Something - "Breakfast At Tiffany's"
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 09:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 10:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link
given all the "ILM wuvs soppy indie pop" comments upthread, what are the odds on Sixpence None The Richer making the top ten?!? i noticed it got a few mentions in the 'what did you vote for?' thread
― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link
WINDY AND CARL - "Antarctica"" (2332 points, 76 votes, 8 first place votes)
#4
SABRES OF PARADISE - "Wilmot" (3476 points, 82 votes, 17 first place votes)
(Not in this universe. Wait! Check the voting machines!)
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link
i've still got 11 that haven't shown up, by my best guess i'd say that no more than 3 of those will make it ("Soon", "Groove Is In The Heart" and "Lazarus") and probably only the first two actually will.
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link
no way is 'Lazarus' gonna make it, wtf people
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link
but then i could kinda think that about everything in my list (the part where delacy sings her first lines over the church organ/bass, the part where the first avh bline kicks in after the "sspppppiiinnnnnnnn spppppiiinnnnnnnn suuuugggggggggg-aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh" timestretch thingy and all hell breaks loose, etc)
but most of all i just feel sad that NO ONE else voted for "Autobiography". you should all download it when i get the folder put together and shared. i guarantee you'll either love it or you hate music
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
i think you may be onto something!
:-p
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Zoolander (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Zooalba (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link
The Foo Fighters placing above Nirvana would be some kind of victory against rockism, I feel (even if Everlong is the only song of there's a I really love).
I've no idea what's on the nominations list or what is going to make the Top 10. There isn't the unexploded bomb of another Belle and Sebastian song is there?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link
How do you feel about Corny Hip-Hop Fuxx? Because there seem to be a lot of those around.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
I suspect there may well be, sleeping at bus stops...
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link
There isn't enough balance to this thread. Some of us should start to rant incoherently about how the list isn't indie ENOUGH.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
there are, aren't there? Their reaction when I say something like "Diamond Princess is a better album than Illmatic" is akin to the reaction of cornie indie fuxx when I say something like "Emma Bunton is better than Wilco". And they really hate Princess Superstar!
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Um no not at all - actually I was suggesting the opposite, it was a little rhetorical trick, essentially I don't think ANY artist should have five songs in the top 100 singles of the decade, or if it is they certainly should have earned it. I LIKE st. etienne (in fact, I think I voted for "Like a Motorway") yet I think wu-tang's 5 best singles trump st. etiennes, but that point aside, I think its pretty clear where ILM's heart is in this matter.
wtf is Beck's "Loser" doing all the way up here?
(I'm not questioning the results, that this is what many ILMers really believe, but that doesn't mean I can't complain about it - you know, like that election that happened the other day.)
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Sure, but you made it sound as if you thought the collated results should reflect your view of the nineties better. (When the point is that only your own list does that, and the end list reflects no one's)
― Vasquesz, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link
It made me happy!
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link
I am still baffled as to why liking DI makes one a corny indie fuck nowadays.Actually, he was referring to Neutral Milk Hotel at the time.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Wow. They really ARE powerful, aren't they?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hivechandler (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link
haha Not that they're Tiberan free jazz but I think everyone should have voted for the Siberian throat singer and Finnish minimal electronic duo I nominated for the albums list. And, yes, Indian classical music and Japanese improv were robbed.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Eastern TimeCentral TimeMountain TimeCrazy Time
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Just a guess, mind you -- one that should perhaps be ignored considering my unimpressive success rate in predicting the outcome of this poll.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
what because you think something that's ACTUALLY NOT THAT DIFFERENT SOUNDING FROM THEM AT ALL is so much better?
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Really? I guess we'll see. Yeah, I went there with this single and I stand by it. It may not be their "most loved single" (I mean their most loved single is probably fucking "Song 2" -- this obv means nothing, "most loved" often means most easily hateable with Blur), but Modern Life Is Rubbish is their finest hour and "For Tomorrow" is MLIR in a song.
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
see you tomorrow when i have to WADE THROUGH 1000 UNREAD POSTS - largely complaining about britpop/pulp/tokenism etc.
you know i love you
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link
i know i'm over-reacting but either back up such statements by suggesting something 'better' and explaining why you think, or just leave it.
surely ilm can do better than the 'yes it is, no it isn't' that tends to dominate some threads (a lot of dance ones, cos so many of us are trying to stamp our authority and knowledge down in an endless game of dick-waving oneupmanship)
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
the inevitable (because i will start it if no-one else does) 'post your own top 100 of the 90s' thread is gonna be fun...
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
damn these boots are starting to hurt...
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Common People - Pulp2. Groove is in the Heart - Deee-Lite!3. Regulate - Warren G4. Cannonball - The Breeders5. Hyperballad - Bjork6. Regret - New Order7. Soon - My Bloody Valentine8. Paranoid Android - Radiohead9. Mind Playing Tricks on Me - Geto Boys10. Windowlicker - Aphex Twin
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link
#10
BJORK - "Hyperballad" (619 points, 30 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://www.abc.se/~m8996/bjork/disco/realsize/576154-2.jpg
" "Hyper-ballad" is my favourite at the moment. Odd that I used to think her lyrics were moronic. Their haiku-like genius eluded me until this."-- sundar subramanian
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
i didn't expect everyone to agree of course - but when they disagree i get irked and take it as a criticism that i don't know what i'm talking about, heh - carry on
xpost Hyperballad's bloody ace
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link
RADIOHEAD - "Paranoid Android" (620 points, 31 votes, 3 first place votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000006TCH.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
I don't like this one as much as some of their others, personally, but this is a fine tune. Search engine's slow here, any other comments?
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Tyree
It’s drastic.It’s all weird and spooky. It’s horrible. I don’t know how anyone could listen to it. That’s the first time I’ve heard anything by her.Bin It!
Katrina
It’s crap. There is no tune and she doesn’t have a good voice enough for it. She can’t sing at all. I’ve never even heard of her.Bin It!
Lisa
It’s too weird. I don’t like her voice. The beat is alright, it’s just Bjork herself and her music. Bin It!
Ciara
Bjork scares me. She’s really, really weird. So is her music. It’s a bit too slow.Bin It!
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, "Loser" is most absolutely Beck's finest moment, and if one non-"Web in Front" song had to represent the golden age of american indie rock, "Loser" is probably the best to do it. The genius of that song hasn't aged a second in the last decade. I think I had it at #10 on my list.
haha, "Paranoid Android" at #9. Wow.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link
at least two spaces left i can't think what can occupy
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
I mean I'm not taking the list THAT seriously, its not about to make or break my day or something, but if i'm going to waste my time posting on a message board i'm going to damn well do what I enjoy doing (in this case, complaining).
And I DO appreciate the list bcuz it gives me something to talk about! And again, thanks to Gear! for compiling all this shit.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Cannonball (not so sure anymore)Mind Playing Tricks on Me (was the campaigning not enough, perhaps?)Regulate (Given trends on the list, I think chances are pretty good)NMH (still can't underrate their clout with the indie crowd--remember "Letter From an Occupant"!) DI (what song, though?) Windowlicker Chime (????)
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
APHEX TWIN - "Windowlicker" (626 points, 39 votes, 3 first place votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000I8U7.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"Windowlicker - Still as seductive and deadly as the day I first heard it, 3 years ago!"-- K-reg
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Windowlicker excites, amuses and maybe even infuriates ('accident vs intention, how do we know?') - all hallmarks of a modern classic. little did we know a couple of years later all pop would sound like this.
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link
"Windowlicker" at #8 is pretty cool. It just missed making my top 30.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
At least two, counting mine.
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
WARREN G - "Regulate" (643 points, 33 votes, 3 first place votes)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000024I7.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
"i love this song. yes, it is quite possibly the best song ever. there are several reasons why: 1)it's mega mega mega funky 2)it's completely un-self-conscious and ernest - that's why some of you might find it embarrassing or cheesy, but i find it really endearing 3)nate dogg: so cool, warren g: such a nerd...yet they come together and create exhilirating g-funk, funked out with a gangster twist."
-- minna
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― :| (....), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link
NEW ORDER - "Regret" (647 points, 36 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://staff.niagara.edu/rpk2/New_Order/graphics/regret.jpg
" "Regret" works as more of a mood setter that just also happens to be a really fucking great song." --The Good. Dr. Bill
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan I., Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― :| (....), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, I'm missing Pop Scene, which *is* Blur's best moment.
― smirky, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh please, Melissa is plenty well-informed about music. Hip-hop is just a piss in the ocean anyway, taken in the broader context of what's out there to be heard.
x-posts
― RS, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
I voted for "Regulate" but not "Regret." Alba's logic works for me.
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
*HEAD EXPLODES*
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
GETO BOYS - "Mind Playing Tricks On Me" (710 points, 33 votes, 4 first place votes)
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2002-11-08/music_string10-1.jpg
"I'm wondering why more ppl haven't ripped off/copied "Mind Playing Tricks", self-hatred, self-immolation, disgust, squalor, paranoia, brain damage, drugs drugs and more drugs, would've thought it an irresistable formula for an 'underground' of ANY description, and re 'Undergrounds' the first time I heard "MPTOM" it I thought 'great this'll be like VU where in 10/15 years there'll be 10,000 records that are like this one', so where are they?"-- dave q
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
i know new order and i downloaded and still i wonder. whats the secret?
― :| (....), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Whether or not you think its funny, the point is I was joking.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Wow, that's a hell of a jump, we're really hitting the big time now.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― smirky, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
The only "conspiracy" was whatever we posted in the original thread about nominations.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
(waves bashfully)
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
oh yeah about that, i forgot to say i did a recount and 'digital love' won after all
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
!!!!
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "Soon" (735 points, 34 votes, 3 first place votes)
http://www.irishmusiccentral.com/mbv/mbv_pressphoto2.jpg
"Also, if "Soon" is "gay," then sign me up straightaway. I'm not sure what you mean by that, either. I think MBV make some of the most feminine-without-being-feminist-or-cutesy music I've ever encountered."-- Clarke B
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
I miss rockism! It's so much more poetic and less bookish than the hh heads (oddly a-fuckin nuff).
I'm gonna start screaming that Pearl Jam's "Black" got robbed.
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
already cheated by Steve Miller Band - surely it's not going to happen again!
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
kinda glad it's notbut what is??
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Booo! Hiss!!!
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, I have faith in 'Cannonball'.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
3. Cannonball2. GIITH1. Common People
right? I mean it has to be, surely?
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
pipedream
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
I've never even heard of such a thing...
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
xp
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
shmool that is a cruel and tasteless joke
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
THE BREEDERS - "Cannonball" (780 points, 47 votes)
http://media.wmg-is.com/media/portal/media/image/2_2770623_10.Jpghttp://www.cnewton.force9.co.uk/Charts/covers/cannon.jpg
"Cannonballo was the best song ever, really."-- Dan I.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
wait a minute
yes
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
it was only released in the Italian markets
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
"awoooooo-ooooooooooooooooh!"
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
DEEE-LITE - "Groove Is In the Heart" (1056 points, 53 votes, 1 first place vote)
http://ubl.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGPORTRAITS/music/portrait200/drp000/p067/p06710uvs0v.jpghttp://www.limelight-records.fr/images/EKR114T.JPG
"there must be some way we can scientifically prove that "Groove Is in the Heart" is the most perfect song ever recorded ???"-- Sonny A.
" "Groove Is In The Heart" has the secret power of being fun to dance to even if you can't dance. It's genius, obviously." -- Tim Finney
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― DOPESMOKER (smile), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
OMG YESSS!!!!!
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
just post it already
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
COS I AM A CORNY INDIE FUXXX WET DREAM.
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Seriously though, how did this not even make the list?
― DOPESMOKER (smile), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
PULP - "Common People" (1387 points, 61 votes, 5 first place votes)
http://www.citadelrecords.com/cdsin/ju0511.jpg
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
i'll try to finish assembling these tonight when i get home and be sharing on slsk in case anyone's interested.
thanks Gear! it's been fun
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
the english "pretty fly for a white guy"
This is a bit harsh on America.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
I think this is a pretty great chart. Lots I've never heard tho', including (AFAIK) that Geto Boys song.
― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
makes sense that you haven't heard those then, seeing as you were seven-years-old when the decade started.
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Not really. I'm 21 and I was definitely aware of Regulate when it dropped. But maybe I was just more into hip-hop then. I donno though, it was pretty everpresent.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
more i was explaining it to myself aloud, cuz i just couldn't understand not hearing these songs. but then, i'm a weezy old geezer.
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― karl76 (karl76), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link
stick it to 'em!
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
No, Regulate was plenty big here too. No one was actually dancing to it, mind.
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
(I also forgot to vote - I could have pushed radiohead out of the top ten dammit!)
― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, I haven't heard most of the songs on the list of winners or nominations.
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Considering his main point was mostly how doofus-y it is to have 5 songs each by Pulp and St Etienne in the top 100, I'd say it's the dickhead who is deliberately misreading him who is the bigger idiot.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I still use the "regulators, mount up!" line. it makes me feel gangsta.
― bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Errr... what is 'Poison'? You're not talking about the Prodigy track, are you?
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
"Regulate" was probably too late for me, since I'd started listening to rock by then.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
This Geto boys song is *very* good
― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Ha ha - I love this.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link
232 pts, 12 votes Boards of Canada – “Turquoise Hexagon S 232 pts, 10 votes, 1 first place Blur - "For Tomorrow 228 pts, 14 votes, 1 first place Beltram - "Energy Flash" 225 pts, 15 votes, 1 first place Gin Blossoms Hey Jealousy 223 pts, 12 votes Souls of Mis "93' Til Infinity" - Souls of Mischief 220 pts, 19 votes Radiohead - "Airbag" 220 pts, 11 votes Yo La Tengo - "Tom Courtenay" 219 pts, 13 votes Right Said Fred - I'm Too Sexy 215 pts, 14 votes Betty Boo - “Where Are You Baby?” 214 pts, 11 votes galaxie 500 'fourth of july'
also, "Chime" clocked in with 8 votes, 105 points. nowhere near the runners-up to the runners-up, unfortunately.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
cuz once you see some hottie doing the running man to some c-level new jack swing cut yr life is CHANGED
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
18 of mine made it in, and my #1 made #1, so I can't really complain. I am very surprised that No Scrubs and Mmmbop didn't make it, though, less so about most of the others. Who has the most typically ILM taste, as measured by getting most of their picks in? And the least? I think 25 is the top and 5 the bottom so far cited.
Great work, Gear!
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
I've never heard neither "Regret" nor "Cannonball", by the way.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
225 pts, 15 votes, 1 first placeGin Blossoms Hey Jealousy
Crikey. Energy Flash only three votes better than Hey Jealousy. You can't blame that one on the British contingent.
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
How come "Poison" wasn't nominated, anyway? Was that the one that Roxy was pushing for? I seriously think that could've gone top 40.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
someone earlier mentioned "cannonball" as an indie fuxor song, and based on who plays it, sure. but musically it's pure contrived over-the-top pop. if kylie did it instead it would've been no. 1!
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Atnevon (Atnevon), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I voted for "Just for a Second"
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I really must hear 'Hey Jealousy'. The talk of it intrigues me.
Ah, it was all worth it.
Curious, of the "Hey Jealousy" haters out there, when was the last time you heard the song?
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm a little bit disappointed with the results in that the great majority of my favorites didn't place, and those that did were really quite low. Still, a very cool top ten--and much less obvious than I expected.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
also
200 pts, 12 votes, 1 first place ginuwine "Pony",
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Though I'm a bit surprised Blackstreet gets #11 and Ginuwine doesn't make it at all, yeah.
― The GOod Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
This is quite something! You manage to maintain superiority regardless of whether it makes the poll. Seriously, that's rad work.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm going to finish working on it this weekend and I'll get to posting it in a week or so.
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
You manage to maintain superiority regardless of whether it makes the poll. Seriously, that's rad work.
What does this even mean?
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm glad I never got around to doing the blurb I was planning on writing for "Hey Jealousy". It would've been an awful lot of passion and energy for a song that didn't even make the list.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Sorry - bad English. I meant: we're fools for not voting it into the top 100, but even if we had done, it would only have been because we're obsessed with Timbaland.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
apparently so - and I voted for two of those tracks; I imagine other DI voters did the same, so the actual # of different ppl who picked their songs is probably even lower than those totals suggest.
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Cheek0 (Cheek0), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Cheek0 (Cheek0), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Cheek0 (Cheek0), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link
http://dickiesonsale.com/pleatedpants.jpg
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― tricky (disco stu), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
why is it that I tend to love negative reviews of stuff I like more than positive ones?
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
I do kind of envy that whole thing, though.
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Out of curiosity, how many votes did "Gloomy Sunday" get? "The Diamond Sea"?
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
NOVEMBER RAIN?!!?!?!?!!!!!
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
1. New Miserable Experience is their first and essentially only album. The main songwriter killed himself after being kicked out of the band (alcohol related issues, I believe) and though they still wrote some great songs ("Follow You Down," maybe "Day Job") afterwards it wasn't quite the same.
2. "Hey Jealousy" is by far the band's best, but "Follow You Down," "Til I Hear it From You," "Found Out About You" and "Lost Horizons" are all excellent as well.
3. The Replacements are a good comparison (especially "Within Your Reach"), and though I wouldn't go so far as to call the Gin Blossoms better (I might like HJ more than any individual Mats song but they're still the better band) I do think much of the urgency and sound is the same.
4. I don't see how the "Westerberg-ian ache" that Anthony talks about is at all absent from "Hey Jealousy." In fact, with the possible exception of "Unsatisfied," I think that Robin Wilson nails the Westerberg-ian ache better than Westerberg himself ever did. It's one of rock and roll's ultimate glory shots, and he sings it so passionately and so within an inch of myself, that I couldn't believe it was him and not Hopkins that was singing. That last part--"Hey Jealousy / 'coz she took my heart"--he just barely warbles it out, almost too emotionally overcome and embarrassed to say it out loud. His voice even cracks like Westerberg's.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
NEIN!
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
SPIN DOCTORS - "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong"
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
k? thnx. bye.
― john'n'chicago, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Basically Johnny and Robin have a little too much Jon Bon Jovi in them to be Paul Westerberg. This doesn't nullify their ability to make good stuff (Jon Bon wrote some good stuff), it just makes them different.
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Needless to say, I don't see him on par with Jon Bon Jovi at all (nor do I see "Hey Jealousy" as being just a really good pop song).
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― artiste (artiste), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Matter of opinion at this point, I suppose. I'm glad you're even willing to talk about the song seriously.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
(fixing my sentence so that it makes more sense)
6. NEW ORDER - "Regret" (647 points, 36 votes) 5. GETO BOYS - "Mind Playing Tricks On Me" (710 points, 33 votes)4. MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "Soon" (735 points, 34 votes)3. THE BREEDERS - "Cannonball" (780 points, 47 votes)2. DEEE-LITE - "Groove Is In the Heart" (1056 points, 53 votes)1. PULP - "Common People" (1387 points, 61 votes)
Of course, the trend I wrote about completely broke down once we hit the top three -- as noted by Gear, the point difference between #1 and #5 > no. of points given to #6. The consensus lauded on the top three (compared to the rest of the poll, and compared with the 00's poll) is remarkable ... about half of the people voted for "Common People" (~ 61/120) compared to about a third who voted for "Hey Ya" last time (~61/170). Even more significant -- there were TWICE as many songs to choose from on this poll (although we also listed twice as many songs on our ballots, do these effects cancel? I'm not sure). It helps explain the similar number of votes for most of the songs in the top 20, as well as the close packed nature of the top 100 as a whole (i.e. several ties, narrow point differentials, one less or one more vote for almost any song could have drastically changed its placing).
Great poll, Gear, thanks for all your hard work!
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Where was Lazarus overall?
I liked how Cannonball came #3 but was no-one's favourite. The kind of song everyone loves, but no-one loves.
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 11 November 2004 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 11 November 2004 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link
make that pissed person in the 00s student/graduate with a disposable income in the 90s
― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 11 November 2004 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I like this list, and I especially like how I've never heard 15 or 16 of these songs, although I assume the majority of them are techno, so they probably won't all fit on one CD. eh.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 11 November 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 11 November 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
"Just for a second" was my #1, AFAIK
― fernando, Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link
This is totally otm, so why screw it up by putting some heavy handed bullshit on there instead of the nice, lightweight ones?
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Fernando, did I speak with you on soulseek a few months ago? Dubstar?
And yes, Girls and Boys is better than either of those Blur songs that made it in. I would've voted for Country House too. Maybe. Like, if I had had an open spot. I didn't.
― Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link
i just think you kids are being a little hypocritical. i dont even like saint etienne and i dont give a fuck that 5 of their tracks showed up. its a poll that measures the likes and dislikes of ilm.
sure, its flawed. any poll is. get over yourselves.
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link
(kidding)
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link
Sleater-Kinney - "Call the Doctor"Mogwai - "Mogwai Fear Satan" Cocteau Twins - "Summerhead" Tricky - "Christiansand" Dubstar - "Stars" Slowdive - "Avalyn"
Also I realized that I'm not a CIF after all. Should I be relieved?
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link
(xpost to Shmool)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah I wanna know the Waits "Who Are You" results as well.
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link
xp yeah snoop needed to get some love. and you're thinking of something else, aaron (do you mean Black Star - Children's Story? Children's Story is probably the most covered rap song ever)
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Thursday, 11 November 2004 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Did no one remember I Love Your Smile?! I thought that would be massively popular, but no.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 11 November 2004 10:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 11 November 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
After seeing the video for another track with that Brian Green guy from 90210, my goodwill died stillborn.
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link
Roxy totally OTM. Song 2 getting into this list is maybe the biggest mindfuck of all.
I also calculated that if I'd remembered to vote for California Love it'd have been at about 21 instead of 29. Boo.
Ang big love to my man Snoop!
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
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and that is why this and every poll is flawed in some way or another. -- todd swiss, November 11th, 2004.
The results certainly aren't 'whites only', blount, it's kind of unfair to suggest that people are operating a sonic apartheid, don't you think? -- Kevin Gilchrist, November 11th, 2004.
I can't imagine in what universe 5 geto boys tracks would have made a list like this. So perhaps part of watching your favorite genre consistently marginalized is a part of it. -- djdee2005, November 11th, 2004.
well not everyone voted for the 'homophobe' option last tuesday either kg but they won anyway, here you don't even need a majority of the vote to get it twisted, just four or five st. etienne singles. -- cinniblount, November 11th, 2004.
Kevin points out that the results are not "whites only." Despite the overrepresentation of certain bands (none of which I am even really familiar with except in the vaguest way, incidentally), the list isn't a "whites only" list. I don't see where you really acknowledge that. Instead you continue to complain about too many selections from certain bands, while associating the results of this ILM poll with the recent U.S. presidential election (the results of which most of us think were very bad if not simply a disaster), something far more serious.
I don't think listening to music according to racial quotas makes a lot of sense, but I guess this language will lead to accusations that I subscribe to the National Review or have a eugenics meeting to attend, or the usual nonsense.
x-post: thank you Martin.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
England, c. 1990-99 ;)
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
(As for blount, he has found a way to bully people and feel self-righteous at the same time. That's what it comes down to.)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link
In what world does Saint Etienne qualify as "British rock revivalism"? (or Pulp for that matter?!)
Like I said before, I voted for four Saint Etienne songs and three Pulp songs (I also nominated Quad City DJs if that matters, it apparently does for some reason...). Hey, maybe it's fanboyism -- they could be my two favorite artists ever -- but I'm not sure how not being 'bright' enters into it: Why is a strong connection with an artist a matter of having an improper level of intelligence or sub-CIF thought? Or, if this is what you're implying, why is voting/listening primarily with your head more proper than primarily voting/listening with your heart? (If anything, the "right" Saint Etienne songs just happened to be nominated. If a completely different five St. Et. songs were picked, there's no way they'd have all made it-- and if all five St. Et. LPs get in, that will be a bit puzzling.)
(fwiw, "Common People" won this by a significant margin, it's apparently not just a small group of racist fanboys voting for them.)
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
if the Geto Boys had made #1, there would probably be accusations of an offensive irony flying around (altho many genuinely like their track there still seems to be a sense that they are the token 'joke'/cool entry) - please nobody tell me how much they genuinely do like 'mind playin tricks on me' now tho. i don't care, i never heard it until it was nominated but don't consider that to be that big a flaw (lots of other tracks could've ended up in the position, including many from the omgwtflol poll which had accusations of quasi-racism flying around too). you can never win really.
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't seem to be the only one who has "misunderstood" you here either.
I'd be interested in knowing who ILXors in general think resorts to bullying more, you or me, blount.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Diamond Jim Bowen (he was a bit racialist too y'know) (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Just sayin'.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link
I figured the Geto Boys vote pooling would maybe get it into the top 40, I never would've guessed it'd make the top five.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link
I want to point out that if there were 5 songs by two rap artists, I would still have a problem with list and I would still be complaining at how dull and (Blount pegged it) fanboyish voting for the same artist nearly half a dozen times. That said IMO the list wouldn't suck as much if there were 5 songs each by Biggie and Dre or Nas and Wu-Tang or something.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Very much so.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
(Biggie placed 3 of his 4 nominated songs; Wu-Tang, 2 of 3; Blur placed 2 of 5 nominated songs; B&S placed 2 of 3, so they did do better than those other artist any way you look at it) BUT that's a small matter compared to making generalizations about the poll's two anomolies and this absolute fantasy that Saint Etienne is a rock band(?!) They've dabbled in pop, northern soul, yé-yé, exotica, acid house, techno, etc., but not rock...they've even arguably borrowed more from hip-hop than rock. Pulp, maybe, maybe is a rock band, although the songs of theirs that placed in this poll have more "popist" sensibilites than "rockist" ones -- even then these are hardly bands that create pop-structured songs that betray any sort of rockist tendencies, so I don't see how you can make that conclusion about those who listen to them.
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― danh (danh), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link
The thing about the UK charts, and music scene in general, is that in the 90s dance music was [to] the UK what hip-hop was [to] the US.
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
it just would prove how good or how much of an impact that paticular artist had or has.
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link
and these things never reflect what's 'best', only what's the 'most popular/preferred'
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
(i didn't vote for any st etienne albums)
― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, sure. My only problem with the five St. Etiennes is that only one, maybe two of them deserve to be there. I agree with all the Pulp inclusions except "Do You Remember the First Time?," though not necessarily with the placements.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
the list will still have bands show up with multiple songs, but it wont be so annoying when it happens i think.
fuck strategic voting.
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 11 November 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes, I saw that, but it's hard to take seriously when you undermine your supposed dropping of the accusation of racism by the parenthetical comment:
really, taking race out the equation (which is doing these people a favor they maybe don't deserve)
Anyway, I think comments like:
this is just rampant fanboyism, the sort of daftness that's not even bright enough to qualify as corny indie fuxxthought
are an insult to people like Martin (who apparently voted in ways you wouldn't approve of, but who likes quite a bit of 90s music you would approve of, and who you certainly aren't in a position to criticze as being less thoughtful than you, or whatever your wording means--I'm not even sure). But yes, that's a separate issue. But it's the sort of thing that makes me give in to the temptation to comment.
I don't know how you can seriously harp on my snarkishness when, in my view, you are one of the rudest old ILM (are you old ILM?--I don't even know) regulars, but I guess we all have our own slant on this thing. Maybe you are very charming in person.
BUT let this be remembered the next time anyone (eg. rockist scientist) snarks about ilm's "popist" tendencies
When have I "snarked" about ILM's popist tendencies? I can find one post of mine which does that, and I thought I was using "popist" in a pretty neutral way.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Todd, I'm not a strategic voter in the sense that I intentionally overrate songs so they'll get on the list, and I'm slightly mystified by people who do that, but I do like the idea of voting a diverse ballot and producing an overall diverse list. What rankles me about the St. Etienne or Pulp songs is less a matter of race or rockism and more a matter of, "Wow there were so many great singles that didn't make the list (or even the nominations ballot), it's a shame some artists had to take up so many slots." But I'm also a big fat hypocrite because I voted for three Stereolab albums, and I'm real curious to see what happens with that.
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link
At a distance this poll appears to resemble Tom's 90s list (which was hugely formative for me) - which also had a strong Saint Etienne and Pulp presence.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
But, you know, I could just be trying to put a different spin on it.
(also, ffs, the fact that a lot of people on ilm like nineties brit indie does not make it a bastion of rockism, it makes it a bastion of corny indie fuxx0rism. rock-orientation is, after all, not automatically rockism. (this in brackets because, you know, just wanted to make objection known etc.))
― cis (cis), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:28 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Loveless2. OK Computer3. Different Class4-26 Radiohead albums, bootlegs and interview picture discs27. Neutral Milk Hotel -- In the Aeroplane Over the Sea28. Dr. Dre -- The Chronic29 - 48. Various albums produced by Dr. Dre49 - 100. Saint Etienne demo tapes
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Dream the fuck on.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't accept that either. I think it is lazy fucking bullshit. Don't make stupid generalizations about what "everybody accepts" and then try to apply to people who think that 100% of a poll going to two bands (and as I said before ANY two bands, although yes obv I would be less irritated if I love the bands in question) is fucking stupid.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link
-- MindInRewind (brune...), November 11th, 2004 1:43 PM. (later)
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Well yeah I didn't mean it is "accepted" but its hardly surprising or shocking, its is expected.
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Would you say it is stupid if you truly believed those ten songs are among the best 100 songs of the '90s?
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 2"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 3"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 4"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 5"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 6"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 7"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 8"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 9"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 10"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 11"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 12"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 13"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 14"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 15"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 16"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 17"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 18"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 19"MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt 20"OMNI TRIO - "Renegade Snares"
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link
I agree with this, but if you were to make a list of your favourite songs, scrificing your own taste for the sake of diversity is a huge dishonest mistake.
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Omni Trio "Renegade Snares (Foul Play Remix)"
and
Omni Trio "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Remix)"
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
2) It results in lame stilted lists (like this one for example.)
3) Obviously these people exist (see list.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link
(ps plz Alex don't hurt me)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Think about the fact that there were people here who had never heard "Mind Playing Tricks" - I wouldn't say it is RACISM that they didn't pick that song/ know that song. But they are a product of a society that does not wholly embrace black music, that black music has had to push its way into our consciousness OR we have to seek it out.
I don't blame individuals for not being aware of music that they did not grow up with but surely there is some blame for a society that reinforces a certain musical perspective.
Imagine a parallel ILM wherein the people discussing it were predominantly black and from the black community of New Orleans. Assuming they had the same interest in exploring a diverse range of music as everyone here, do you think that the list would be very similar to this one?
I'm not sure I'm being clear here, but can someone help flesh out my idea here? heh. Or disprove it, whatever I'm open to that too.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, you're right. Criticism is mean. We should all stop.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
(x-post to djdee)
We're not mean. Just you. Poopyhead.
(x-post to alex)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link
To dan: can you expound on that? I'm not quite sure what you'd mean, i'd be interested to know why some black american music is accepted in the UK and some isn't ("accepted" = "popular")
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link
x-post dammit
― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Somehow I don't see myself taking advice on respectability from Anthony Miccio anytime soon.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link
My point is that it may be obvious "we are all a product of society, what we're exposed to, and how we learn to engage with 'other' music" but I think its OK to complain about that fact when it is confirmed by a list like this!
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm baffled why I should do that. I don't care about Pulp or St Etienne except that they tolk 10% of the poll.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link
cases in point:
one of my favorite bands - long fin killie (ROCK -inherently "white" according to our "non-racist friends dee and AlexSF - as played by a band led by a non-white)
or the beastie boys (HIPHOP - inherently "black"? oh i forgot they're white - therefore they've just co-opted someone else's culture and our "non-racist" friends tend to dismiss them.)
good thing djdee and Alex in SF are so colorblind and UNRACIST! *cough*
seriously, i think the most racist people in this thread are the very ones who started trying to pull the race card bullshit because they weren't pleased with the results of the thread
i voted the songs i liked because i liked them, not because of the race of the artists, the amount of "racial" music i've been exposed to, or any ulterior motive. to suggest that votes were cast according to people's races is simply bullshit and embarassing to the accusers. or at least it should be, if they were intelligent enough to realize how insulting they were being to any non-whites in the poll (actually to pretty much EVERYONE in the poll).
now fuck off and go listen to some music
― rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link
I think you all are smart enough to realize that (almost) nobody here is racist or sexist. They like what they like. And yet, thread after thread ends up turning into a race war (despite the fact that there are few actual black people here)
In the end, there's something everyone here has in common. Not many people in the world would spend so many hours of their lives arguing about a fucking LIST. Get over it.
― mister lurker, Friday, 12 November 2004 00:27 (nineteen years ago) link
the music that we are exposed to depends on our parents. i know that my parents along with many other parents dont want their kids listening to music with parental advisory stickers. since i was a teenager or less all of the 90's, i could not possibly be exposed to those artists.
thats all i suppose
― todd swiss (eliti), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Me:
cinniblount made a mistake arguing that people are racist for liking Pulp or St. Etienne which is obviously not fair.
I'm talking about the way our social upbringing and exposure to diversity affects what music we are aware of and such. As much a criticism of nationalistic taste as racism as geographic focus as "hometown pride" or whatever other social tendencies result in limiting our engagement with other forms of music, the kind of engagement that lets 10% of the list be dominated by a rather specific aesthetic. I'm also not accusing any individuals of doing anything "wrong," just wishing that as a group ILM was engaging with a wider range of music.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:31 (nineteen years ago) link
djdee: i read all of your posts, you've yet to say much of anything that doesn't literally render you a racist of the worst degree
― rentboy (rentboy), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― daavid (daavid), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 12 November 2004 00:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link
SORRY EVERYONE IT'S MY FAULT
I would argue very much that The Geto Boys were "an act of their time" who were not going to get the same type of exposure as a political act like Public Enemy or KRS-One, a completely over-the-top controversial group like NWA/Ice Cube/Dr Dre/Eazy E/The DOC or 2 Live Crew, or a positive hippy-esque group like A Tribe Called Quest/De La Soul. They had an edge and were definitely on the dark side but their main hook was that one of their members was a dwarf and since there was no comedy angle to that, there wasn't anything for The Acceptable Face Of Radio Music to hook into.
It's disingenuous to say it's not a racial issue but it's equally disingenuous to say it was solely a racial issue; you're talking about a group who reached their peak right before the music busines figured out that people all over the world really, really, really like all forms of hip-hop.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
I agree with this statement 100% incidently.
And the first paragraph is probably right too, although I imagine it could be fleshed out a bit more...but regardless, my criticism of the list is simply an extension of my criticisms of the way some acts are recieved and some are not, regardless of relative "goodness".
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Friday, 12 November 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 November 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Friday, 12 November 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 12 November 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Gear, Stevem and I will have to discuss.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 12 November 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 12 November 2004 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 12 November 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link
but dj this list is not about how some acts *are* received now, it's about how they were received in the 90s, when hip-hop was not the ubiquitous cultural force it is now and when many people here, for various reasons which have little to do with race, weren't listening to very much hip-hop.
if we did a 00s poll in like 2014 and Missy Elliott placed ridiculously low, you'd have far more of a point.
the Geto Boys had a DWARF member? wow.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 12 November 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hi, I am a genius. a big one. (AaronHz), Friday, 12 November 2004 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, some thoughts: There were two distinct versions of britpop inthe 90s. The first, which actually reflects the word, was bands like St Et and Pulp and World of Twist (and erm... Cud) who tried to create an alternative pop universe (where their records were anti matter number ones, every copy bought in an anti-matter Woolworths) while not actually selling that much in the real world. (To characterise this as british rock revivalism is weird and wrong.) Me, I loved it all 'cos it was the anti grunge. Faced with all that plaid, who wouldn't want gold lame and glitterballs?
In the meantime we had a rockist, regressive sound (beatles>jam>smiths>oasis) pushed by the music press in two failed incarnations ( The "mod revival", the "new wave of new wave") before they finally hit paydirt with Britpop TM.
While it is somewhat ridiculous for someone to place 5 pulp songs or whatever in their poll(didn't you listen to anything else?), it is way cool that this other britpop is getting the props here. Nice one!
Obviously, the real action was dance music in the UK and hip-hop in th US, but still, if we're going to have some brit pop, then lets have St Etienne et al.
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 12 November 2004 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 12 November 2004 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link
I honestly don't know what you're talking about. I don't see how what you are describing translates into "snarking about popist tendencies." I don't like a lot of pop or hip-hop, and I do comment on that sometimes.
meanwhile if you wanna keep harping on how i say something instead of what i'm saying maybe i can send you an e-cuddle or something or whatever it'll take to get the sand out of your vagina -- cinniblount (littlejohnnyjewe...), November 11th, 2004.
High-five, dude! You're so clever with the grade school taunts.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 12 November 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 12 November 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
BE TEHRE
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
i actually voted for much less hip-hop than I should have on the singles list because I mad eit up inna hurry and because I voted for all 4 Disco Inferno songs - don't know what that might make me (strategic voting oh no). but, i think this thread has made me realize how little love hip-hop gets on ILM. and people like jess and even john mountain goat (huge scarface fan i think) probably hurt the cause.
also who else voted for "Everlong" #1
― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I've had trouble finding the poll results threads so I'm marking them with searchable terms.
― a banana (alanbanana), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
This is hilarious. Saint Etienne are ROCK???
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't even think of them as indie - okay, there's the kitchen-sink element to a few of their songs, but the style tends to be more dance or pop. I voted for 'You're in a bad way' because its perfect full-on bubblegum pop.
I think he meant to say ROCK. I am an ROCKER. I shall grow my hair long and get a MOTORBIKE.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:10 (nineteen years ago) link
So the TS: Saint Etienne vs. Slipknot thread can wait, then?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link
also, since The Pet Shop Boys no longer sell to pop kids, does this mean they're now indie? What about Duran Duran?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Though there are of course musical differences between Annie/St Etienne/PSBs and current chart pop too.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link
someone mentioned me?
hello dear. um, not quite. i'm whinging about indie because it's not as good as it used to be ;)
(N. is this helping?)
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Tom Ewing would be ashamed of you.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link
i am still basically a great big pretender when it comes to that kind of pop music i.e. 'oh this is a great song, i hated it at the time but now...well actually i don't own it, wouldn't dance to it and wouldn't put it in my personal top 100 of the decade actually, hmm'
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Take That can also fuck off.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link
I was actually just amazed they hadn't been mentioned at all in either positive or negative terms, considering how they completely dominated the mid-90s in the UK (Take That) and worldwide (Spice Girls).
Never Forget is the best Take That song. Back For Good can fork off.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link
It's not real indignation, its faux-indignation in case you hadn't guessed.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
East 17 are entirely without merit.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link
STAY NOW!!!
(sleigh bells)
Baby if you've got to go away
Don't think I could take the pain
This is the best "not actually a christmas song, but we'll add sleigh bells" song ever
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link
hmm..let's see...one Arab Stap record, listened halfway through and currently in the pile of CDs I'm thinking about trying to part with.
I must have at least five ABBA records. So...is the hypothesis of the test flawed, do you think?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Why is there no Best Of East 17 out?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 November 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I see. You liked their early stuff better...
No, it wasn't you. You don't whinge, you complain in a mildly sardonic manner (or a less-mildly sardonic manner sometimes...)
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
james blount will you please stop trying to be robin carmody - you are not as good at it as him (and that's not presupposing i like anything he says much). also you make a total ass of yourself when you make sweeping statements about a whole nation such as "british people don't have any truck with hip hop", especially after insisting that dizzee/grime artists *are* hip-hop. what? only white people allowed to be british in your eyes?
― stelfox, Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Jaunty Alan (AlanTrewarth...), November 18th, 2004 1:55 PM. (later)
this is the truest thing Alang has ever said
― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Thursday, 18 November 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Hiphop had been a feature of the UK charts from Grandmaster Flash onwards (OK, there was a bit of a break in the mid 80s). There were *mad* scenes in '88 when Public Enemy and Run DMC toured. And as for the music press, hiphop albums had a lot of critical stock from 'Yo! Bum Rush The Show' winning the NME 87 poll onwards. UK Hip Hop was never that big, so there wasn't the feeling that homegrown music scenes can create, but I guess for large parts of the USA, the consumers of the music are far culturally removed from the creators too.
Actually yeah - the original 'In the 90s, dance music was to the UK what hiphop was to the US' statement was more about creators than consumers, I think.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Alba, Rapper's Delight was a huge hit well before Grandmaster Flash.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
I mentioned the various club comps because I believe they were the biggest cash cows (and chart successes) of the UK club scene, but if I'm way off in that assumption then someone please clarify.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't know enough about USA charts to comment on MindInRewind's comparison. Certainly there was a lot of dance in the charts here, though obv. daytime radio tended towards the poppier stuff.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 6 August 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link