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Not that original a thread idea, but what the hell -- let's all get it out of our system here, and I promise we'll all feel a lot better for it, shall we? I'll start...

BOB DYLAN IS CRAZILY OVERRATED AND HAS THE VOICE OF A MOUNTAIN GOAT WITH A TRACHEOTOMY

::sigh:::

Ah, much better.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

RADIOHEAD -- ADORABLE RIP-OFFS TURNED PRE-MILLENIAL MID-70'S PINK FLOYD RIPOFFS TURNED APHEX AND AUTECHRE RIPOFFS : A NEW AND ORIGINAL VOICE OF ANIT-STAR REASON -- I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

"DAYDREAM BELIEVER" WAS A BETTER SONG THAN ANYTHING THE BEATLES EVER PUT OUT

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"TOXIC" IS MAYBE -- MAYBE!!! -- BRITNEY'S 10TH BEST SINGLE. GREATEST THING EVER? -- FEH, TALK TO THE HAND.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

THE NEW DESTINY'S CHILD SINGLE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY SUCKS

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM OTM OTM OTM
I feel a strange yet fermiliar peace here

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

PHISH DON'T DESERVE THEIR FANS

― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

TOM WAITS IS A ONE-TRICK PONY

― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

cant do bold. yet.

SIGUE SIGUE SPUTNIK RULE.

game over.

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

MICHAEL JACKSON IS STILL GREAT

― Melson (ArchCarrier), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

EMBRACE ARE MY FAVOURITE BAND AND I DON'T MEAN TEH HARDCORE GROUP THAT BEGAT FUGAZI.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

BELLE AND SEBASTIAN ARE UTTERLY UNFORGIVABLE

― My Dinner With Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM IS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF MY TIME EVER.

some one tell me the bold trick please ?

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You just did it, Mark?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ha.

ok. thats that sorted.

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

No bold for me either.

HENDRIX COULD SURE PLAY GUITAR, BUT ALL HIS SONGS ARE REALLY BADLY PRODUCED AND THUS SOUND HORRIBLE.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

INDIE ROCK IS BORING

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I HADN'T HEARD THE BOREDOMS BEFORE YESTERDAY. THEY'RE NOT VERY GOOD.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Nickalicious 100% OTM, by the way.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I DON'T PLAY VINYL AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

LOVELESS IS BADLY PRODUCED AND THE SONG STRUCTURES AND VOCAL MELODIES ARE REALLY DULL.

― mzui, Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - Isn't that pretty much conventional wisdom?
Wooden OTM re: Boredoms.

― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Loveless gets a lot of love round these parts no?

― mzui, Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I think W i l l meant the vinyl thing.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The vinyl thing is conventional wisdom among the masses but I doubt it is among ILMers.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw heck, here goes nothing . . .

JESUS IS NOT THE LORD!

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

NOBODY REALLY LISTENS TO THE MEKONS CDS ON THEIR SHELF

― tipustiger, Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

(I would.... if they released the Fast Product singles or The Quality Of Mercy Is Not Strnen on CVD I would....)

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I am so enjoying this.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

DEXTER GORDON IS BORING AND SOUNDS LIKE HE SHOULD BE DOING SOUNDRACKS FOR SKINEMAX MOVIES.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

NOT EVERYTHING PRINCE DOES IS BRILLIANT -- IN FACT MOST OF IT IS PRETTY CRAPPY

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE IS INDEED FILLER ON LONDON CALLING

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I never liked most Prince -- I always felt like I was being "told" to like him.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

PSEUDO-OTIS CLEAR SPOT BEEFHEART IS SUPERIOR TO FREE-VERSE ARHYTHMIC SQUALL-OF-GRONK TROUT MASK BEEFHEART

AND MELLOW GOLD IS BETTER THAN BOTH

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I REALLY REALLY CANT STAND BRIAN WILSONS VOICE AND JUST DONT GET THE LOVE FOR PET SOUNDS & SMILE

cleansed.

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXCEPTIONAL ABOUT THE STONE ROSES

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THE SOLO WORK OF LOU REED IS MORE HIGHLY REGARDED THAN THAT OF ANY OF, I DON'T KNOW, SAY, THE MONKEES. OR DURAN DURAN. OR WHOEVER. YOU GET THE IDEA.

Granted, I haven't listened to much of it, but since what I heard led me to the above conclusion ...

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

THE PIXIES WERE A DECENT, MIDDLE-OF-THE-PACK INDIE ROCK BAND WITH A COUPLE REALLY GOOD SINGLES, BUT NOTHING TO WRITE HOME ABOUT.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)

....OR THE HAPPY BASTARD MONDAYS FOR THAT MATTER

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

poppy two step in the vain of Flowers is much better than most grime.
The Red Hot Chilly Peppers better lay up off that horse or they will get an infection from its fermenting flesh.

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

OASIS WERE NEVER ANYTHING MORE THAN A DERIVATIVE PUB BAND. ANYONE WHO LIKES THEM IS A MORON. AND DON'T GIVE ME ANY SHIT ABOUT DEFINATELY MAYBE BEING QUITE GOOD, ACTUALLY. IT'S NOT. IT'S RUBBISH BEYOND BELIEF.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

dissing oasis is now considered blasphemous?

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

There is so much truth here.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

CREEDENCE 1967-1970 > BEATLES 1967-1970

PUNK'S SHELF-LIFE AS TWO-CHORD ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT REBELLION WAS ABOUT HALF A YEAR; ANY LEFTOVER PISTOLS-APERS WHO WERE STILL AROUND IN '78 SHOULD'VE PACKED IT IN AFTER MAGAZINE'S FIRST ALBUM RENDERED THEM IRRELEVANT

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF RADIO 4, ROUGHLY 90% OF CURRENT NYC-SPRUNG POST-PUNK BANDS THAT CITE GANG OF FOUR AS AN INFLUENCE ARE MORE LISTENABLE THAN GANG OF FOUR

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

(conclusion reached after listening to DFA Compilation #2)

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

THE BEACH BOYS ARE HORRIBLY TWEE.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Alfalfa Romeo is OTM about punk.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

There is much passion here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

hooray for moogpunk

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

MORE LISTENABLE THAN GANG OF FOUR

Hmmmm....I'd argue this one.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

LOVE'S "MASTERPIECE" (FOREVER CHANGES) CONTAINS EXACTLY ONE GOOD SONG -- THE FIRST SONG. THE REST OF IT SOUNDS LIKE A FEW PSYCH SESSION GUYS GOT TOGETHER AND WROTE AN ALBUM IN THE STUDIO.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN IS CRAP

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know if Gang of Four was exactly going for "listenable" -- I'd still take them over any Brooklyn post-punkers.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN IS CRAP"

So OTM, and I can't say it because I live in New Jersey.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ERIC CLAPTON IS VERY DECIDEDLY NOT GOD, UNLESS DIVINITY MEANS YOU MAKE EXCEPTIONALLY BORING MUSIC

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

NIRVANA DIDN'T KILL HAIR METAL. HAIR METAL OVERKILL KILLED HAIR METAL

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

MOST PERE UBU ALBUMS ARE UNLISTENABLE TWADDLE, SAME GOES FOR THOMAS' EARLY SOLO WORK.

― mzui, Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

SOLOMON BURKE IS NOT AN UNDERAPPRECIATED GENIUS OF SOUL MUSIC.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Beck is not "One of the most inventive and eclectic figures to emerge from the '90s alternative revolution" (as AMG would have you believe); nor indeed is he "the epitome of postmodern chic in an era obsessed with junk culture".

He is, in fact, a whiny little twat.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

SPIRITUALISED ARE VERY VERY VERY BORING.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE WAS NOTHING 'PUNK ROCK' ABOUT GUNS'n'ROSES APART FROM THE ODD T-SHIRT CHOICE. THEY WERE ULTIMATELY JUST ANOTHER BOG-STANDARD METAL BAND.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"dissing oasis is now considered blasphemous?"

Is this some sort of US/UK divide? I never liked or knew anyone who liked Oasis, and thought of them as a band you beat people up for listening to. But on ILM I hear about them all the time, presumably from Brits.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"DAYDREAM BELIEVER" WAS A BETTER SONG THAN ANYTHING THE BEATLES EVER PUT OUT
-- pfeffernuesse (theundergroundhom...), October 7th, 2004

Ahem.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

JANE'S ADDICTION. MEH.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

SHOEGAZING WAS LARGELY, PRETTY GREAT.

― mzui, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Fleetwood Mac (at least from the mid '70's onwards) produced nothing but the most dreary coffee-table music.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

There was a good two year period in the 80s when Oasis were adored by seemingly everyone in the United Kingdom except me and two of my friends. There's still a disurbingly large contingent who insist that their first two albums are good.

There's almost a blanket concensus that they turned shit years ago, for which I am very glad.

xxxxpost

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Forever Changes has ONE GOOD SONG -- THE FIRST SONG

Heh heh...not that I agree with you (far from it!), but you might've mentioned that Arthur Lee didn't write that one song! Just for that extra dose of outrage.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

HAVING MORALLY UPLIFTING, SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE SONGS LIKE "KEEP YA HEAD UP" AND "BRENDA'S GOT A BABY" IN THE SAME CATALOG AS MISOGYNIST PLAYA ANTHEMS LIKE "I GET AROUND" DOESN'T MAKE TUPAC SHAKUR A MULT-FACETTED INDIVIDUAL WITH VARRYING DEGREES OF EMOTIONAL DEPTH SO MUCH AS A SHIT-TALKING, BANDWAGON-JUMPING HYPOCRITE.

heh.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Aaaah yes, shoegazing, thanks for reminding in me:

Shoegazing was largely a load of aimless self-indulgent masturbatory noodling

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

best thread in the world ever. part 985.

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post to alex)
ALSO, HE WASN'T THAT GOOD A RAPPER

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Forever Changes has ONE GOOD SONG -- THE FIRST SONG

Heh heh...not that I agree with you (far from it!), but you might've mentioned that Arthur Lee didn't write that one song! Just for that extra dose of outrage.
-- Myonga Von Bontee

That's amazing -- I didn't even know that. It's a fucking good song though.

ps I concur on Tupac

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

REM SHOULD'VE CALLED IT A DAY AFTER MONSTER's ABJECT FAILURE TO IMPRESS ANYONE OTHER THAN DAN RATHER.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

X-Post Hahah! Touche!

― mzui, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

On the contrary: REM SHOULD'VE CALLED IT A DAY BEFORE MONSTER's ABJECT FAILURE TO IMPRESS ANYONE OTHER THAN DAN.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

MOTORHEAD, IRON MAIDEN AND THE RAMONES ALL SELL MORE T-SHIRTS THAN ACTUAL ALBUMS AND THE WORLD IS FULL OF POSERS AS A RESULT.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

stewart so otm about beck.
neither fear nor nation are particualrly good albums. neither is enter the 36 chambers. Ther I fucking said it
dissagree? bring the muthufukin ruckus!

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

NO, SERIOUSLY, GANG OF FOUR ARE FUCKING ATROCIOUS.
AND MARK E. SMITH HAS ABOUT AS MANY INTERESTING IDEAS AS HE HAS HEALTHY TEETH.

YES, BECK IS BETTER THAN BOTH OF THEM.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

MICHAEL JACKSON'S MUSIC HAS NOT AGED WELL.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

'THIS IS SPINAL TAP,' WHILE FUNNY, DOES NOT WARRANT REPEATED VIEWINGS ON THE SAME SCALE AS 'ANIMAL HOUSE' AND/OR 'BLAZING SADDLES'.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

NO ONE ACTUALLY ENJOYS 99% OF "NOISE BANDS," THEY JUST STAND THERE AND PRETEND THEY DO.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

'THIS IS SPINAL TAP,' WHILE FUNNY, DOES NOT WARRANT REPEATED VIEWINGS ON THE SAME SCALE AS 'ANIMAL HOUSE' AND/OR 'BLAZING SADDLES'.

This is true. It warrants more than either.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, you dare refute my bold declaration? Okay, you asked for it...

MOST OF LOVELESS ONLY SERVED TO SUGGEST THAT YOUR WALKMAN'S BATTERIES WERE DYING

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

It's only blaspheming here if you believe in a god.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Piling on: THE BEACH BOYS WERE DULL, RHYTHMICALLY-CHALLENGED, ABUSE-VICTIM GLEE-CLUB DORKS WHO HAD ONE AND A HALF GOOD RECORDS IN THEM BEFORE THEIR ONE-EARED WOULD-BE GENIUS DROVE HIMSELF 'ROUND THE BEND TRYING TO HANDLE HIS BUZZ & COMPETE WITH THE BEATLES.

― briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

CAROLE KING AND PARTICULARLY THE ALBUM TAPESTRY.

IT'S ALL JUST A LOAD OF OLD BOLLOCKS, ISN'T IT, REALLY?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

THE BEASTIE BOYS ARE OUT OF IDEAS

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

MIKE OLDFIELD AND PARTICULARLY THE ALBUM TUBULAR BELLS.

SEE MY COMMENTS RE: "CAROLE KING AND PARTICULARLY THE ALBUM TAPESTRY" ABOVE.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I only recently changed my mind and started to think Carole King was good.

THE BEASTIE BOYS ARE OUT OF IDEAS
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...)

Come on, Alex, that's not exactly blasphemy anymore.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

PEOPLE OWN NO NEW YORK AND LIKE TO CROW ABOUT HOW HARD IT WAS TO FIND AND HOW MUCH THEY HAD TO PAY FOR IT -- BUT NO ONE ACTUALLY LISTENES TO IT!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

listens, even.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

NO ONE REALLY ENJOYS ALBERT AYLER'S "SPIRITUAL UNITY" EXCEPT FOR THE MELODY OF "GHOSTS"

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

99% OF ALL REGGAE AND 100% OF ALL ELECTRONIC/DANCE MUSIC SINCE 1980 IS REDUNDANT NO-TALENT CRAP AND UTTERLY USELESS WITHOUT THE DRUGS

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

STEREOLAB ARE CRAP.

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Jackson's music has aged just fine. More worrying is the fact that those he chooses to hang out with have not aged at all since the beginning of his career

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

WHETHER HE WAS BORN TO OR NOT, MARC BOLAN SOUNDS HILARIOUS PRONOUNCING THE WORD "BOOGIE." AS DO MOST ENGLISH PEOPLE.

― briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

This IS fun!
But we'll all still be friends when we're done, right?

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

GARAGE ROCK WAS A MINOR MID-60S FAD OF LIMITED QUALITY AND INTEREST AND ITS SUBSEQUENT LIONIZERS AND REVIVALISTS ARE EMBARRASSING GRAVEDIGGERS WHO MIGHT AS WELL BE RE-ENACTING CIVIL WAR BATTLES FOR ALL THEIR MUSICAL OR ENTERTAINMENT VALUE.

FRANKLY, THIS INCLUDES IGGY POP.

― Wrath, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I like ANYC's typo upthread -- one doesn't listen to No-Wave, one listenes, baby.

― briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahahaha

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Grateful Dead really aren't that bad

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, OK. I'VE SEEN MEDESKI MARTIN & WOOD LIVE. TWICE. AND I ACTUALLY ENJOYED IT.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE THAN MUSIC!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

(Did I go too far?)

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The Sex Pistols were an overrated, no talent corporate rock band.

The following bands are unlistenable: The Beatles, Pink Floyd, The Allman Brothers, The Who, The Grateful Dead

Nirvana, at times, can be terrible

― cool_hand_duke, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i believe there is no such thing as TOO FAR on this thread. thats the beauty of it ..

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

THE CURRENT CRITICAL/HIVEMIND MEME OF 'WHITE PEOPLE* MAKE GREAT ALBUMS, BLACK PEOPLE** MAKE GREAT SINGLES' IS ABOUT A HALF-STEP FROM RACISM.

*or anybody aiming for a 'white' audience
**or anybody aiming for a 'black' audience

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(Did I go too far?)

Nope.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

AN HOUR WITH A GOOD THERAPIST COSTS ABOUT THE SAME AS THE RED HOUSE PAINTERS BACK CATALOGUE AND WILL PROVE A GREAT DEAL MORE HELPFUL AND ENJOYABLE.

IF YOU'RE OVER THIRTY AND YOU'VE STILL GOT 'THE BLUES' THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY A LOSER.

― Wrath, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

RE: DAFT PUNK - DISCOVERY: TWO GREAT TUNES AND A LOAD OF ANNOYING FILLER DOES NOT MAKE A GREAT ALBUM

― Bidfurd, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"Appetite for Destruction" has not stood the test of time. It sounds dated and has plenty of filler tracks.

When all is said and done Van Halen will be mostly forgettable.

― cool_hand_duke, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

THE MONKEES ARE WAY OVERRATED BY BLASPHEMERS.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

MOST 'LOST CLASSICS' GOT LOST BECAUSE THEY AREN'T CLASSIC.

― Wrath, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I HAVEN'T EVER HEARD JANDEK BUT I JUST *KNOW* HE'S SHITE

― mzui, Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

MOMUS IS JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE NEIL DIAMOND WON'T RETURN HIS PHONE CALLS.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Buffet Rocks (ducks behind a small car as rocks, pies, an unwanted computer screen and a chicken [unplucked but dead] fly in his direction).

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

THE CURRENT CRITICAL/HIVEMIND MEME OF 'WHITE PEOPLE* MAKE GREAT ALBUMS, BLACK PEOPLE** MAKE GREAT SINGLES' IS ABOUT A HALF-STEP FROM RACISM.

that's not just a current meme, is it? that's a timeless one.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

THAT JACKSON REMIX OF RUN INTO FLOWERS ISN'T NEARLY AS GOOD AS PEOPLE SAY IT IS (I VASTLY PREFER THE ORIGINAL) AND YOU'RE ALL PIMPING IT JUST BECAUSE IT SHOWED UP ON THAT M MAYER MIX WHICH -- FUNNILY ENOUGH -- ALSO ISN'T AS GOOD AS YOU THINK

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

PRINCE is GOD!!!!!

― My Dinner With Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

HIP HOP, LIKE PUNK ROCK BEFORE IT, HAS BECOME DE-FANGED AND HOUSEBROKEN AND IS ULTIMATELY DEAD

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

xposts:
THE CURRENT CRITICAL/HIVEMIND MEME OF 'WHITE PEOPLE* MAKE GREAT ALBUMS, BLACK PEOPLE** MAKE GREAT SINGLES' IS ABOUT A HALF-STEP FROM RACISM.
"that's not just a current meme, is it? that's a timeless one.

This all contributes to my theory that "There's A Riot Goin' On" has not quite been given its due because of racism, i.e., people can't handle an album that is conceptual, serious, cynical, and experimental from a black artist whom they just want to talk about partying, feelin' groovy, and holding hands with the world.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

MADONNA IS WASHED UP

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

And dried up too.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

people can't handle an album that is conceptual, serious, cynical, and experimental from a black artist
Hmmm ... what about Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye's work from around the same time?
I personally think "Riot" doesn't get its due because conventional wisdom states that Sly was a washed-up drugged-out fuckup by 1971, and therefore he couldn't possibly have made a great record.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

hurting: not so sure i can agree with you on riot, because i'm pretty sure that one has gotten plenty of critical love (it's the public that wasn't so quick to embrace it), and because marvin gaye and stevie wonder, among others, got a shitload of commercial and critical love at the same time for conceptual, serious, cynical, experimental albums. if riot did indeed get less than its fair share, i'd argue that's because of the public's general prejudice against anyone, black or white, playing against type (i.e. changing course sharply and suddenly).

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

NO ONE HAS LISTENED TO Hail to the Thief IN MONTHS....AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL AGAIN

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

xposts

Others have also brought up Wonder and Gaye to me when I make this argument, but I think the difference is that What's Goin' On and a lot of Wonder's stuff still have this facile, sentimental "message" to be taken home.

I guess I'm thinking more of the public in general than critics. Then again, maybe the public just doesn't like cynical albums period, white or black. My theory does not appear to be fully baked yet upon further scrutiny.

Wouldn't "Wonder and Gaye" have been a great duo name?

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

And on another topic: JOHN CALE ALBUMS SOUND LIKE PURE AMATEURISM.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

NEW ORDER AND THE CURE EPITOMIZE EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DESTROYED ABOUT THE 80S

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)
the proper name for that duo would've been The Gaye Wonder.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

HIP HOP KILLED SOUL MUSIC. IF YOU THINK DESTINY'S CHILD HAVE "SOUL" YOU SHOULD JUST SAW YOUR EARS OFF, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING YOU ANY FUCKING GOOD. JILL SCOTT AND ALL THE OTHER FUCKING "NEO-SOUL" 1973-THEME-COSTUME-PARTY ACTS NEED TO DRIVE OVER A FUCKING CLIFF, TOO.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

SOUL MUSIC WAS GOOD FOR PARTIES OR IT WAS GOOD FOR NOTHING

― Wrath, Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE'S NOTHING 'TWEE'ER THAN THE WORD "TWEE," AND IT SHOULD NEVER AGAIN BE USED IN A SENTENCE.

xpost:
NEW ORDER AND THE CURE EPITOMIZE EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DESTROYED ABOUT THE 80S
-- sundar subramanian

Actually, I was going to say my favorite piece of blasphemy, that THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE IF THE 80s NEVER HAPPENED, EVEN IF IT MEANT DOING WITHOUT A HANDFUL OF DECENT BANDS LIKE THE POLICE AND TALKING HEADS

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU SHOULD JUST SAW YOUR EARS OFF, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING YOU ANY FUCKING GOOD

yes oh yes oh yes

NEW ORDER AND THE CURE EPITOMIZE EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DESTROYED ABOUT THE 80S

Whoa there.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

CRUNK IS MINSTRELSY. SO IS 95 PERCENT OF ALL THE REST OF HIP HOP. AT LEAST BLACK METAL BANDS DON'T PRETEND THEY REALLY LOOK/ACT LIKE THAT OFFSTAGE.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

TELEVISION STOPPED BEING INTERESTING ONCE RICHARD HELL LEFT AND WERE BASICALLY FRUSTRATED PROG ROCKERS WHO DRESSED LIKE JUNKIES.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

NOBODY REALLY LISTENS TO THE MEKONS CDS ON THEIR SHELF

NO ONE HAS LISTENED TO Hail to the Thief IN MONTHS....AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL AGAIN

hahaha actually i've been listening to rock 'n' roll and hail to the thief quite a bit lately.

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

BIG AND RICH HAVE RELEASED THE WORST ALBUM THIS YEAR.

I HAVE A REOCCURRING NIGHTMARE IN WHICH BUSH WINS AND CO-OPTS THIS SHIT INTO SOME SORT OF VICTORY DANCE. TWO-STEPPING ZOMBIES FILL THE DANCE HALLS AND I SPEW VOMIT UNCONTROLLABLY.

thank you

― darin, Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

TELEVISION STOPPED BEING INTERESTING ONCE RICHARD HELL LEFT AND WERE BASICALLY FRUSTRATED PROG ROCKERS WHO DRESSED LIKE JUNKIES.

OMG is that OTM.

THE IDEA OF SUN RA IS MORE INTERESTING THAN THE MUSIC OF SUN RA.

― steve hise, Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"WE BUILT THIS CITY (ON ROCK AND ROLL)" IS A GREAT SONG AND JEFFERSON AIRPLANE'S FORAYS INTO PSYCHEDELIA WERE BY AND LARGE MEDIOCRE

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

SPIN MAGAZINE IS THE BEST MUSIC-RELATED MAGAZINE AND THEIR WRITERS ARE THE BEST WRITERS

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

BING CROSBY, FRANK SINATRA, AND DEAN MARTIN BEAR THREE OF THE MOST ANNOYING VOICES I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE.

*sigh*

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

IN THE AEROPLANE OVER THE SEA IS NEITHER THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL-TIME NOR THE WORST RATHER IT IS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

What can we say about Sonic Youth that the Velvet Underground didn't say better?

― Don, Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

PUBLIC ENEMY ARE THE MOST OVERRATED RAP GROUP OF ALL TIME

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

WAKE UP, MEMPHIS!
COMPULSIVE GAMBLERS (1991-93) > BIG STAR > AL GREEN

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"M MAYER MIX WHICH -- FUNNILY ENOUGH -- ALSO ISN'T AS GOOD AS YOU THINK "

i decond that, and can i add:

OLD SCHOOL, BABY IS A BIT RUBBISH AND NENAS VOICE IS EXCRUCIATING

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

bollocks

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

THE HIP-HOP CANON DOES NOT GET ENOUGH RESPEKT AS IT IS STOP TEARING DOWN GOOD ARTISTS AND JUST SHINE THE LIGHT ON OTHER ARTISTS WHO WERE IGNORED (AKA "KILL YOUR IDOLS" SYNDROME)

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

WHAT DO YOU MEAN ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUGEES GET PLENTY OF RESPECT

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

ALL TALKING HEADS ALBUMS BETWEEN TALKING HEADS '77 AND SPEAKING IN TONGUES ARE, FOR THE MOST PART, PRETTY BORING.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

SOME BASEMENT JAXX SONGS ARE REALLY ANNOYING

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

PARTICULARLY WHERE'S YOUR HEAD AT

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

AND YO-YO, ARE YOU KIDDING ME

― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Astral Weeks IS A BLOATED, SELF-INDULGENT BAG OF RUNNY, TEPID EXCREMENT.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

wow,i can't believe Dr.Bill's Spin-love passed without comment. Now that's blasphemy

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

ALEX IN NYC HATES ALL THINGS GOOD AND RIGHT IN THIS WORLD

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

That's just simply not true.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

EVERYONE POSTING TO THIS THREAD NEEDS TO STOP SIPPING ON THE HATERADE

― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I TAKE STRENGTH AND INSPIRATION FROM ANN COULTER.
Otherwise I wouldn't have any hate in me at all.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 7 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

wow,i can't believe Dr.Bill's Spin-love passed without comment. Now that's blasphemy

yeah, I was kinda surprised about that as well.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 7 October 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

This is less of a blasphemous statement than it is a secret confession:

I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO RYAN ADAMS' LOVE IS HELL FOR THE LAST 48 HOURS AND I ACTUALLY LIKE IT.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

But, I mean, this is just the boring old "rock sucks" crap that usually comes out of the ILX membership. I suppose I am the real blasphemer on ILX, attacking hip-hop and current singles hits. :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

PEOPLE PROJECT THEIR OWN BOY LOVING IMPULSES ONTO MICAEL JACKSON BECAUSE THEY ARE JEALOUS OF HIS TALENT

― tINA mARIE, Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm ... what about Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye's work from around the same time?

Not to mention Outkast...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

And, btw. I guess my comment about Gene's debut album being way better than anything The Smiths ever released fits in here just as well as it did in the rare opinions thread and the Gene thread ;)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

PEOPLE PROJECT THEIR OWN BOY LOVING IMPULSES ONTO MICAEL JACKSON BECAUSE THEY ARE JEALOUS OF HIS TALENT

tINA, you want the "nonsense" thread, not the "blasphemy" thread.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

PUBLIC ENEMY ARE THE MOST OVERRATED RAP GROUP OF ALL TIME

The word "rap" is completely unneccessary in the above statement.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Mohammad the Great Prophet used to have hair growing below his arms...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

GREEN DAY'S "WARNING" IS ABOUT FIFTEEN TIMES BETTER THAN ANYTHING ANY OF THE CLASS OF 77 EVER RECORDED

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

THE LAST THIRD OF "DIFFERENT CLASS" IS CONSISTED ENTIRELY OF FILLER

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"Underwear" is clearly proof that Dom Passantino is talking bullshit :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

GREEN DAY'S "WARNING" IS ABOUT FIFTEEN TIMES BETTER THAN ANYTHING ANY OF THE CLASS OF 77 EVER RECORDED

So, now we're just getting silly. STAY FOCUSSED, PEOPLE!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ROB HUBBARD IS A WAY MORE IMPORTANT FIGURE THAN L.RON HUBBARD

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Hitlers invasion of Russia>Beatles

― Tim Mclean, Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

PFORK MUSIC REVIEWS>VOICE MUSIC REVIEWS!

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

GREEN DAY'S "WARNING" IS ABOUT FIFTEEN TIMES BETTER THAN ANYTHING ANY OF THE CLASS OF 77 EVER RECORDED
Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I do honestly think that

GREEN DAY'S "DOOKIE" IS JUST AS GOOD AS THE CLASH'S FIRST ALBUM. HAD BETTER SOUND QUALITY, TOO.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

VITALOGY>>>>>>NEVERMIND!!

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I PRETENDED TO LIKE "GET YOUR FREAK ON" BUT REALLY I THOUGHT IT WAS TUNELESS AND STUPID

― Good Dog, Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

TLC WERE ULTIMATELY ENTIRELY INCONSEQUENTIAL,.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

PEOPLE WHO DON"T LIKE "GET UR FREAK ON" ARE LIVING IN THE PAST

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

JEFF MILLS AND HIS BANG BANG BANG BULLSHIT GIVES ME A FUCKING HEADACHE TO TELL THE TRUTH

― Good Dog, Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

CRYBABY "SENSITIVE" MALE INDIEBOY VOCALS = LAME

― Tell the Truth Snaggletooth, Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not blasphemy, that's practically gospel.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

JUNIOR BOYS AND POSTAL SERVICE ARE SOAKIN' IN IT

― The the Truth Snaggletooth, Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

THE SOUND OF LIES>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>OK COMPUTER

― Steve Hise, Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

WHALE FARTS >>>>>>>>>> OK COMPUTER (minus the singles)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

WHALE FARTS==================MOST OF AGAETIS BYRJUN

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

J Lo's BUTT ISN'T REALLY THAT BIG NOR IS IT THAT ATTRACTIVE AND IT DEFINITELY DOESN'T WARRANT HER BEING SO POOPULAR

― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

......AND HER MUSIC'S INDEFENSIBLE CRAP TOO!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

CLINIC DOES MORE FASCINATING THINGS IN 45 SECONDS OF YOUR TYPICAL INTERNAL WRANGLER TRACK THAN THE VELVET UNDERGROUND DID ON THE ENTIRETY OF WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT. LOADED WAS THE BEST VU ALBUM. AND LOU REED WAS THE ORIGINAL IRONIC DOUCHEBAG HIPSTER.

TALK SHIT ABOUT PROG ALL YOU WANT, BUT THERE IS NO PROG GOOD CHARLOTTE. ERGO, PROG > PUNK

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Thursday, 7 October 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I PREFER THE POSTAL SERVICE TO THE JUNIOR BOYS.*

WHEN NOT IN POP MODE, BJORK DISAPPEARS UP HER OWN BACKSIDE.

OUTKAST ARE GOOD BUT OVERRATED.

MILLENCOLIN ARE BETTER THAN OPERATION IVY.

RADIOHEAD HAVEN'T MADE A GOOD RECORD SINCE THE BENDS. OK COMPUTER WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE END.

A LOT OF EARLY HOUSE MUSIC IS NOW COMPLETELY UNLISTENABLE. DITTO EARLY RAP.

*Although I bought both acts' records.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

ALL SMITHS SONGS SOUND THE SAME

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Radiohead didn't make a good or even interesting record until OK Computer.

THE NEW PRINCE ALBUM SLAYS THE 'CLASSIC' MATERIAL. FOR ME ANYWAY.

MOST 80s HARDCORE MAKES MARILYN MANSON LOOK LIKE A GENIUS. EXCEPT THE STUFF THAT SOUNDS LIKE EITHER HACK IMPROV OR CLASSIC ROCK. NB: I MIGHT BE TALKING OUT OF MY ASS.

xpost: Yeah they do.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

THE EAGLES' "NEW KID IN TOWN" IS MY FAVOURITE STEELY DAN SONG AT THE MOMENT.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

BUT THERE IS NO PROG GOOD CHARLOTTE.

Thank fuck for that.

RADIOHEAD HAVEN'T MADE A GOOD RECORD SINCE THE BENDS. OK COMPUTER WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE END.

OTM OTM OTM OTM OTM

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

ALL SMITHS SONGS SOUND THE SAME

But...I mean... This is actually true!!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

People who like The Bends enjoy shopping for self-assembly furniture and think the background music on TV documentaries is too loud and distracting.

Also, they can't hear the words nowadays.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck Dylan

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

RADIOHEAD HAS BECOME THE #1 STRAWBAND ON THE INTERNET, BOTH HERE AND ELSEWHERE.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ROB ZOMBIE PWNS TRENT REZNOR

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Prince Paul is Over-fucking-rated

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"poopular"

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

3 FEET HIGH AND RISING WAS NOT DE LA SOUL'S BEST ALBUM. I LISTEN TO STAKES IS HIGH MORE THAN ANY OF THE OTHER ONES

― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost. you like that? hehe

― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Proíbidao/Baile Funk REALLY SUX BALLS

― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I ENJOY MASTURBATION!

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

GURU IS ONE OF THE WEAKEST MCs IN HISTORY

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

YES IS ONE OF THE 5 GREATEST 'ROCK' BANDS OF ALL TIME BUT FOR REASONS THAT ARE ROUGHLY OPPOSITE TO WHY GEIR LIKES THEM. THEY'RE GOOD SORT OF IN THE SAME WAY AND TO A SIMILAR DEGREE AS PHILIP GLASS AND APHEX TWIN.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

AND I LIKE A LOT OF INDIE ROCK MORE THAN DYLAN, WAITS AND PRINCE.

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

YUCK

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

AND ANYONE WHO LIKE RUSH SHOULD BE SENT TO A RE-EDUCATION CAMP!

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Re: Yes: Goddam sundar is on the muvva-luvvin money.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

DR BILL DOESN'T LIKE GURU. DR BILL DOESN'T LIKE "MOVE YOUR BODY" BY MARSHALL JEFFERSON. DR BILL DOES NOT HEART MUSIC.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

NIRVANA, THE BEATLES, DYLAN, MARVIN GAYE CAN ALL REMAIN UNHEARD BY ME THE REST OF MY LIFE AND I WON"T EVEN NOTICE NOR CARE IF I DID

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

HE WHO REFUSES TO LISTEN TO MARVIN GAYE'S "TROUBLE MAN" AND "INNER CITY BLUES" MISSES OUT ON BEAUTIFUL MUSIC
fuck the rest of em

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

URGE OVERKILL'S SATURATION WAS THE BEST ROCK ALBUM OF THE 1990s

― Howard Wine (nordicskilla), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"WE BUILT THIS CITY (ON ROCK AND ROLL)" IS A GREAT SONG AND JEFFERSON AIRPLANE'S FORAYS INTO PSYCHEDELIA WERE BY AND LARGE MEDIOCRE

PHHHHBBBBLLLLLTTT! (The sound of bourbon spraying out of my nose in laughter.)

BJORK'S CAREER CAN BE SUMMED UP IN A SINGLE GREATEST HITS COLLECTION

― Evanston Wade (EWW), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

SYD BARRETT: MORE CHARMING NOODLER THAN MADCAP GENIUS

DIMMU BORGIR, "DEATH CULT ARMAGEDDON >> EMPEROR "IN THE NIGHTSIDE ECLIPSE"

THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MANY NEW AGE RECORDS AND MANY TECHNO/AMBIENT AND DRONE RECORDS IS DEMOGRAPHIC

more a sectarian difference than a blasphemy but:
BILLIE HOLIDAY'S SINGING GROWS MORE INTERESTING THE MORE TATTERED HER VOICE GETS

and finally, take a hard look in the mirror, oh music geek:
EXCESSIVE ECLECTICISM IN A MUSIC COLLECTION IS AS MUCH A SIGN OF A SHORT ATTENTION SPAN AS IT IS OF AN OPEN MIND

― max davenport (axehead), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

ABBA IS BRILLIANT!!!!!!!

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

ha I might be the only person on this board who doesn't believe that.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ABBA IS BRILLIANT!!!!!!!

That's not blasphemy, that's simply truth.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

HAD NICK DRAKE LIVED, HE'D BE ABOUT AS INFULENTIAL AS ROY HARPER.
(God this is fun.)

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, let's try this..

IF GOD AND JESUS RECORDED A DUET, IT WOULDN'T BE HALF AS COOL AS EITHER "SOMETHIN' STUPID" OR "LEMON INCEST."

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

HAD KURDT COBANE LIVED HE WOULD HAVE BECOME LAURYN HILL

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

People who like The Bends enjoy shopping for self-assembly furniture and think the background music on TV documentaries is too loud and distracting.

Also, they can't hear the words nowadays.

Teehee. I'm not quite that old yet.

Actually, my knowledge of Radiohead is limited to the overplayed singles (WHICH, GODDAMMIT I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED "HIGH & DRY", I WAS IN COLLEGE, DON'T TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME, ARGLE BLARGLE) and my Autechre-fellating co-worker playing "Everything In Its Right Place" too loudly, which usually leads to me trying to organize a singalong by proclaiming "Everybody sing as loudly and badly as you can!!! Ev'ry-thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!!"

I mean, maybe if I'd never heard the Orb, Banco De Gaia, The JAMMS, Aphex Twin, or ANY OTHER FUCKING AMBIENT ACT IN MY LIFE, I'd have embraced Radiohead's later output, but to me it sounds about ten years too late.

Not actually attacking you, noodle, just ranting in the spirit of this thread.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ROCK CRITICS ARE GIVING NORAH JONES PROPS BECAUSE THEY ARE HORNY.

Word.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

x posts

Well, strictly speaking, Nick Drake is about as influential as Roy Harper.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

SIGUR ROS KICKS ASS

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

CHINESE DEMOCRACY WILL NOT HAVE BEEN WORTH THE WAIT.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

CHINESE DEMOCRACY WILL HAVE BEEN WORTH THE WAIT

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't attaxoring you, neither, Tantrum ;)

I mean, you're right, up to a point, but I think the Kid A=Aphex-Twin-for-beginners argruement doesn't explain what's good about Kid A. I tend to think about it more as Original Radiohead left on a radiator to melt.

It's more the Stereophonics-y "we hate interestingness" attitude towards everything after Ver Bends that I was poking at.

Course, you knew that, but I'm really hammered.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

LES CLAYPOOL'S BASS PLAYING JUST SOUNDS LIKE A SWARM OF FAT, ANGRY, WINDED HORNETS.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

KILLING JOKE STILL SUCKS

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

BIG STAR "BLUE MOON" >>>>>>>>>>>ELVIS PRESLEY "BLUE MOON"

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

BOWLING FOR SOUP ARE THOROUGHLY UNDERRATED.

THE BILL HICKS SAMPLES IN TOOL'S MUSIC ARE MORE INTERESTING THAN TOOL THEMSELVES. IN FACT, TOOL APPEAR TO BE PROG ROCK FOR ACID-EATING, BASEMENT- DWELLING CONSPIRACY DORKS WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES TOO COOL FOR RUSH. MOST RUSH FANS AT LEAST HAVE DECENT JOBS AND GIRLFRIENDS (IF NOT WIVES AND FAMILIES) BY NOW.

THERE IS MORE SEX, MELODY, AND DANCEFLOOR FUN IN A SINGLE CULTURE BEAT SONG THAN IN MOST OF THE MINIMAL TECHNO RELEASED TO DATE.

THE ROLLING STONES SHOULD HAVE QUIT AFTER "START ME UP", WHICH WAS YEAR ZERO FOR THE UTTER BUFFOONERY THAT HAS FOLLOWED.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

BELLE AND SEBASTIAN >>>>BLACK FLAG

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, can we like Pearl Jam now?

― danh (danh), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

TEN > NEVERMIND

how's that?

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

DISCO WAS THE BEST THING THAT CAME OUT OF THE '70s

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

― danh (danh), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE IF THE 80s NEVER HAPPENED, EVEN IF IT MEANT DOING WITHOUT A HANDFUL OF DECENT BANDS LIKE THE POLICE AND TALKING HEADS

Hurting, you just made me sob a billion tears. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

(*sob* Also, this opinion was espoused by every single major music publication throughout the '80s and '90s, wasn't it? *sob*)

EVERYONE OUTSIDE THE FAN COMMUNITIES WHO CLAIMS TO LIKE DURAN DURAN DON'T SHOW IT WHEN IT ACTUALLY COUNTS (E.G. WHEN IT COMES TIME TO MAKE THE REQUISITE BEST-OF LISTS) AND THAT, AT TIMES, SEEMS TO INCLUDES PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM. (Sorry, folks, for dragging out the broken record here -- this has just become an increasingly more tender sore spot with me, esp since I was SURE I would see certain "in defense of" or "why they're great" things happening that aren't happening.)

(JaXoN and Alex in NYC completely OTM re: JLo, BTW.)

― Ever-Ready Daisy Chain (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw, c'mon! Disco was a party that anyone and everyone could join; it was music minus the cult of personality, it knew no shame, and there was absolutely no topic/genre it was afraid to tackle/subsume/diminish. What more could you ask for?

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(xposting)
Also -- this: I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THE SOLO WORK OF LOU REED IS MORE HIGHLY REGARDED THAN THAT OF ANY OF, I DON'T KNOW, SAY, THE MONKEES. OR DURAN DURAN. OR WHOEVER. YOU GET THE IDEA. -- I'm considering a true example of "damning with faint praise". Thanks, but no thanks.

― Ever-Ready Daisy Chain (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ELVIS WAS SHIT AFTER '54.

RUSH ARE SO BAD THEY ARE COMPLETELY GREAT.

ROGER DALTREY IS A COMPLETE TWAT.

BILL WARD IS ...(well great really, was going to say thick, but fuck that).

BLACK DICE ARE A WASTE OF YOUR TIME.

heh!

― piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

BIG AND RICH SUCK SUPER DUPER HARD. THEY'RE CORNEY, NOT "CAMPY" AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

LES CLAYPOOL'S BASS PLAYING JUST SOUNDS LIKE A SWARM OF FAT, ANGRY, WINDED HORNETS.

That sounds like a compliment. Did you mean it that way? If not, is he really that canonical?

I love avant electronica but I still think Radiohead adds a lot to it (in the sense that Amnesiac offers you something different from Drukqs or Draft 7.30 not that it's inherently better), first, by incorporating it into creatively constructed song form WHICH IS CHANGING THINGS AND ADDING SOMETHING, as well by the way that modern jazz elements are used. i.e. nothing on any Aphex albums (and I have most of them) sounds quite like "Life In a Glasshouse" or "Pyramid Song".

And, heh, I don't think minimal techno is necessarily all about sex, melody, or dancefloor fun.

THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MANY NEW AGE RECORDS AND MANY TECHNO/AMBIENT AND DRONE RECORDS IS DEMOGRAPHIC

Well, what is new age? I associate the term with really soft pop/song-oriented music with really high performance and production values that has 'spiritual' leanings and incorporates elements of non-Western music, like Enya or Enigma/Dead Can Dance/Delirium. But I've also seen the term applied to things like David Hykes or Meredith Monk or Philip Glass or Arvo Part or Theo Bleckmann. In which case, that's the biggest compliment in the world!

THE VELVET UNDERGROUND WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED ALL THAT AVANT-GARDE (CERTAINLY NO MORE THAN, SAY, THE YARDBIRDS) IF IT WASN'T FOR JOHN CALE'S CV.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

LESTER BANGS AIN'T SHIT

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

CHRISTGAU HAS BEEN PRETTY USELESS FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

(And I do still really like lots of VU stuff. But I have to admit that every major 60s band I've discovered has made them seem less impressive.)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

RUSH ARE SO BAD THEY ARE COMPLETELY GREAT.

This is a preliminary step to realizing that they are so good they are completely great.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

IF THE VELVET UNDERGROUND HAD WORN MORE PLAID AND EARTH TONES THAN BLACK , NO ONE WOULD'VE PAID ANY ATTENTION.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"for the past twenty years"

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

IMMERSION>WIRE

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

THOSE FAT, ANGRY, WINDED HORNETS SOUNDED FUCKING COOL. For a while.
JIM THIRLWELL HAS WRITTEN SOME OF THE BEST MUSIC OF MY TIME

HOLY FUKINGSHIT XPOST!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

RUSH ARE SO BAD THEY ARE COMPLETELY GREAT.

This is a preliminary step to realizing that they are so good they are completely great.

-- sundar subramanian (sundar_subramanian200...), October 8th, 2004.

Spot on. Just stepped over. Moving Pictures on now loud2!

― piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

ELVIS COSTELLO STOPPED MAKING INTERESTING LET ALONE ENJOYABLE MUSIC OVER A DECADE AGO.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really think that opinion's too blasphemous, Alex.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE, ALBUMS BY D12 WILL BE FOUND PLENTIFULLY IN BARGAIN BINS

THE NEW U2 ALBUM WILL SIMPLY BE MORE OF SAME.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

NOT ONLY IS IT PATHETIC AND SAD TO BE WEARING BONDAGE TROUSERS AND A MOHAWK IN 2004, IT WAS PATHETIC AND SAD TO BE SPORTING THEM IN 1994 AND HONESTLY, IT WAS GETTING PRETTY OLD ALREADY IN 1984.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

You're starting to scrape the bottom of the blasphemous bin.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, well, it's getting late and I have a cold and am pumped fulla DayQuil.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

MUCH OF MOTOWN IS NO LONGER RELEVANT AND HAS A VAGUE WHIFF OF "OREO" ABOUT IT.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

POP AND ROCK CRITICISM, THIS THREAD ESPECIALLY, IS ULTIMATELY A PATHETIC BATTLEGROUND OF ADULTS STRUGGLING TO JUSTIFY THEIR CHILDHOOD LAPSES IN JUDGMENT.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

SIZE MATTERS

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I DON'T HEAR AN OUNCE OF APHEX OR AUTECHRE IN RADIOHEAD'S LATER RECORDS.

APHEX AND AUTECHRE AREN'T EVEN THAT COOL TO NAMEDROP

― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the influence is way overstated.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM IS VARIOUSLY AFFLICTED WITH ELITISM AND REVERSE-ELITISM, OFTEN SIMULTANEOUSLY

MY GREATEST JOY IS TO HAVE BEEN BORN IN THE 80'S, HENCE COMING OF AGE AT A TIME WHEN I NO LONGER NEED TO FORM THE RIDICULOUSLY CLINGY OPINIONS OF NUMEROUS UNNAMABLE FELLOW POSTERS

― you will be shot (you will be shot), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

mott you need to hang around here--or the world--a little more before you go thinking that THAT is a 'blasphemous' opinion

also, you might be hard of smelling or something--your nose is giving you false sociological readings

but enough of my impotent criticisms, here's one:

MELODY RHYTHM AND LYRICS ARE ALL EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO THE ENJOYMENT OF GREAT MUSIC oh I done did it now

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I will not will not will not I tell you have anything to do with that nasty old "world" thing.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

THERE WASN'T ANYTHING SHOCKING OR SPONTANEOUS ABOUT THAT FABLED MADONNA/BRITNEY KISS AT THE MTV AWARDS SHOW. IT WAS MERELY ICILY CHOREOGRAPHED AND FRANKLY DEVOID OF ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY RESEMBLING GENUINE EROTICISM.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM IS VARIOUSLY GREAT AND SORT OF SHITTY - BUT THEN SO AM I AND SO IS LIFE - SO IT IS NOTHING IF NOT ACCURATE, FROM WHAT I'VE GATHERED.

This Rush album is great, but I miss my copy of Farewell To Kings! There's nostalgia for ya.

Oh and EARLY REM IS BORING!

― piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MANY NEW AGE RECORDS AND MANY TECHNO/AMBIENT AND DRONE RECORDS IS DEMOGRAPHIC

Well, what is new age? I associate the term with really soft pop/song-oriented music...etc
-- sundar subramanian

Heh. I knew my vagueness would get me into trouble...It's a valid question, as "new age" is so much more a marketing category than a valid genre that Borders recently changed the category name to the all-but-meaningless "lifestyle music."
My basic point is something about the irony of maligning a genre as a whole which includes some good music that but for it's marketing category / signifiers would be given a fair listen.

btw, theo bleckmann new age? wtf??!

― max davenport (axehead), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and EARLY REM IS BORING!

Que? And Reveal makes you wet your pants?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the DayQuil is making you delusional. It was Fred Durst and Daniel Johnston who kissed on the MTV Music Awards.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Theo Bleckmann's glorious Origami is filed under both "jazz" and "New Age" at the York library.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It was Fred Durst and Daniel Johnston who kissed on the MTV Music Awards.

See, I feel reasonably certain I would've remembered that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

EMINEM IS OVERRATED BY EVERYONE, HE IS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF LYRICAL TALENT IN THE HISTORY OF HIP-HOP. THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT HE HAS NEVER PICKED A FIGHT WITH A REAL TARGET. PLUS HE'S JUST WEIRD AL YANKOVIC ANYMORE.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

My therapist working work to help me, um, help me something. Rhonda?

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:08 (twenty-one years ago)

ELVIS COSTELLO NEVER MADE INTERESTING LET ALONE ENJOYABLE MUSIC

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone on ILE is a big jerk.

― Helios Creed (orion), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

now THAT is blasphemous. wrong, but bold. FORTUNE FAVORS THE BOLD! HISTORY IS MADE AT NIGHT!

plus, fuck off, your books sucked, dr. sagan.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG what if that was really carl sagan and he rises from the grave and beats the fuck out of me with billions and billions of tiny punches?

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

continuing on alex's last brit/madge thingy

IT'S REALLY NOT ALL THAT SEXY SEEING TWO GIRLS KISS

possibly has to do with highschool/collge best friend being a lesbian and just being fucking sick of it (not into pda at all)

― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh and EARLY REM IS BORING!
Que? And Reveal makes you wet your pants?

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), October 8th, 2004.

Absolutely not. The point of your thread is losing its original vigour. Can't have it both ways. Just being contrary - I like early REM up til Automatic, but they can snore here and there.

― piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

SPARKS IS PROBABLY THE WORST EXCUSE FOR A BAND EVER.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

SPARKS IS PROBABLY THE WORST EXCUSE FOR A BEVERAGE EVER.

― Helios Creed (orion), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ALEX AND JAXON HATE FUN.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

A GOOD PORTION OF WHAT IS DEEMED "BLASPHEMOUS" BY THIS THREAD IS ILM CONSENSUS. I MEAN, RADIOHEAD? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/the%20kiss.jpg

― yes (Gear!), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

DEPECHE MODE HAVE NEVER WRITTEN A GOOD SONG.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

SPIKE JONZE VIDEOS ARE FUCKING BORING.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

JESUS, EVERYONE HERE JUST FUCKING SUCKS.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

ONLY DISC TWO OF JAMES BROWN'S "STAR TIME" BOX IS ACTUALLY WORTH LISTENING TO

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:05 (twenty-one years ago)

MATCHBOX TWENTY HAS BECOME A COMPLETELY AWESOME BAND.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

LITTLE X AND HYPE WILLIAMS ARE BOTH HELLA UNDERRATED

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah that pic's kinda hot actually (best friend's a dyke too Jaxon), thing is they look kinda straight which is the hot thing (I mean seeing two lesbians make out=well duh) um blasphemy nothing really Leonard Cohen's acoustic stuff has the shit kicked out of it by his 80s synth stuff but everyone thinks that

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:17 (twenty-one years ago)

two things:

1) sundar is FABULOUS on this thread.

2) why is disagreeing with the canon necessarily a show of "irony" or "reverse elitism"? is it at all possible that maybe we're being genuine?

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ABBA DOES NOT MAKE GOOD POP MUSIC. THEY ARE BORING AND THEIR HOOKS AREN'T CATCHY.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Just being contrary - I like early REM up til Automatic, but they can snore here and there.

Fair enough, but I'd reckon you'd do most of your snoring towards the latter end of their sonic spectrum. Personally speaking, if they'd broken up after Chronic Town, it would have been one step closer to a perfect world.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Aerosmith still kick ass

Jaz Coleman can't sing anymore

― big chaki (chaki), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:53 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost. Aye 'tis possible.

― piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

MOST GOOD ALBUMS OR SINGLES EVER RELEASED BY AFRICAN AMERICAN ARTISTS WERE RELEASED ON THE MOTOWN LABEL BETWEEN 1963 AND THE MID 80S

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Considering how many fantastic records Motown put out in the 60s/70s alone you could prob leave the "African-American" out of that and sub just "American" or something, really.

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

ABBEY ROAD DOES NOT FUCKING DESERVE TO EVEN OCCUPY A PLACE IN THE SAME CATALOGUE AS A HARD DAY'S NIGHT.

― OleM (OleM), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew: Almost true as most of the best music of that period was made in the UK. However, I would not want to leave Beach Boys, Lovin' Spoonful, Mamas & The Papas and some of those great late 60s American hippie pop records out ;)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"MUSIC MINUS THE CULT OF PERSONALITY" CAN FUCK OFF

― OleM (OleM), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

"KIND OF BLUE" EXCEPTED, I WOULD RATHER LISTEN TO MILES DAVIS'S 1980s RECORDS THAN HIS 1950s RECORDS.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

MC HAMMER >>>>> RAKIM

― Stew S (stew s), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

U2 HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INSUFFERABLE.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

ZOOROPA HAD SOME DECENT B-SIDES!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

pdf OTM, except for "Sketches Of Spain"

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

U2 > BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
CURE > BEATLES
SUNDAYS > SMITHS
SINEAD O'CONNOR > PATTI SMITH

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 8 October 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

PATTI SMITH IS A HACK AND NEVER MADE ANYTHING WORTH CARING ABOUT.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I THINK THE CURE SOUNDS WHINEY.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 October 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

THE MUSIC MACHINE DEALT WITH MALE EXISTENTIAL CRISIS IN A MORE INTERESTING AND SATISFACTORY WAY THAN JOY DIVISION DID.

― Fedorov syn Popkova, Friday, 8 October 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

RUN DMC HAD ROTTEN FOOTWEAR.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 8 October 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

why is disagreeing with the canon necessarily a show of "irony" or "reverse elitism"? is it at all possible that maybe we're being genuine?
I have been 100% genuine on this thread!

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

MOST GOOD ALBUMS OR SINGLES EVER RELEASED BY AFRICAN AMERICAN ARTISTS WERE RELEASED ON THE MOTOWN LABEL BETWEEN 1963 AND THE MID 80S

i realize this thread is all about blashemy, but, um, you didn't actually just say this, did you???

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

MISSY ELLIOT IS THE WORST RAPPER EVER. WORSE THAN KOOL KEITH ON A BAD DAY. WORSE THAN "MC" PAUL BARMAN. WORSE THAN THAT FAT WHITE KID THAT EVERYONE MADE FUN OF ON THE INTERNET. WORSE THAN MC SKAT CAT.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

oh nick this makes me so sad

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

mc skat cat is underrated.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

"MOST GOOD ALBUMS OR SINGLES EVER RELEASED BY AFRICAN AMERICAN ARTISTS WERE RELEASED ON THE MOTOWN LABEL BETWEEN 1963 AND THE MID 80S"

"i realize this thread is all about blashemy, but, um, you didn't actually just say this, did you???"

Yeah, what about all the stuff on Stax / Volt and Atlantic, eh?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

MC Skat Kat revealed (search for the phrase "Before that was MC Skat Kat" in your browser)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"U2 > BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN"

Isn't the relevant expression for this "damning with faint praise"?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Stewart, I kiss you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

JOHN OATES IS A BETTER SINGER THAN DARYL HALL.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)

In a robust, manly fashion only, I trust, Nedworth?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

SOMEHOW THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST BORINGLY TYPICAL ILM THREADS EVER.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

In a robust, manly fashion only, I trust, Nedworth?

Naturellement.

Hey Begs, clear this up for me, did John ever sing lead or was he always backing? Then again there was that great call/response on "She's Gone"...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

S.F. SORROW IS BORING!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

on the great (and recently rediscovered by me) Abandoned Luncheonette, Oates sings lead on "Had I Known You Better Then," "Las Vegas Turnaround," and the creepy "I'm Just a Kid (Don't Make Me Feel Like a Man)". He sings lead on a couple tunes on last year's comeback album, which was great.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

DAVID LYNCH MAKES BORING, INCOMPREHENSIBLE FILMS.

― Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

THE FIRST DEVO RECORD IS PRETTY BAD.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

You mean the Mechanical Man EP, obv.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ARETHA FRANKLIN'S SINGING ON THE COLUMBIA RELEASES IS BETTER THAN HER SINGING ON THE ATLANTIC RELEASES (although the Atlantic sides are better music, of course)

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

CLAUDINE LONGET MADE BETTER RECORDS THAN THE DOORS.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

mark grout is right. the pretty things are pretty boring in general. sigh... ok. fine.

MARK GROUT IS RIGHT. THE PRETTY THINGS ARE PRETTY BORING IN GENERAL.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It doesn't matter what I think.

― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

BLACK PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO ROCK EXCEPT FOR JIMI HENDRIX AND THAT VERNON REID GUY

― 6335, Friday, 8 October 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

CLAUDINE LONGET MADE BETTER RECORDS THAN THE DOORS.

the doors had good singles, but most of the time, this is true.

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

you guys re all crazy and stuff

― animal, Friday, 8 October 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Claudine had a secret weapon -- Nick DeCaro. Jim and crew just had drugs. DeCaro tops drugs every time.

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, what about all the stuff on Stax / Volt and Atlantic, eh?

Usually unmelodic crap, like most 70s funk and virtually all African American music from the recent 20 years.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

EVERYONE WHO LISTENS TO EVERYTHING DOESN'T REALLY LISTEN TO EVERYTHING, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS UNLISTENABLE CRAP

― mattp, Saturday, 9 October 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.wunderkraut.com/art/town_frink_piisexactlythree.gif

― Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 9 October 2004 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Usually unmelodic crap, like most 70s funk and virtually all African American music from the recent 20 years.

That walks the line between blasphemy and idiocy.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 9 October 2004 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

and falls deep, deep into the idiocy pit.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 9 October 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It's also just wrong. Even if you don't like Stax soul, which is hard to comprehend, it's just stupid to call it "unmelodic".

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 9 October 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Wooden OTFM Re: David Lynch

― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 9 October 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

DAVID LYNCH MAKES BORING, INCOMPREHENSIBLE FILMS.
-- Wooden (josephgoode...), October 8th, 2004.

I like several David Lynch films, I even believe Wild At Heart is a lovable film - but Lost Highway and The Straight Story fall into this category for me.

― piers (piers), Saturday, 9 October 2004 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)

DOLLY PARTON IS AMERICA'S GREATEST LIVING SONGWRITER

― mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Saturday, 9 October 2004 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

WHITNEY HOUSTON' S VOICE IS AS MELIFLUOUS AS AN AIR-HORN. OH, AND SHE'S FUCKING NUTS TOO!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 9 October 2004 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)

KYLIE's NOT ALL THAT. SHE HAS TEETH LIKE A HORSE AND LOOKS LIKE A BOTOX-FACED FREAK

Also There was a good two year period in the 80s when Oasis were adored by seemingly everyone in the United Kingdom except me and two of my friends.

...predating the existence of Oasis by at least four-six years, that's some amount of seeming adoration...

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 9 October 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

95 PERCENT OF THE "BLASPHEMIES" ON THIS THREAD ARE ACTUALLY BORING CANT

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 9 October 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(not that there's anything wrong with that)

MARC BOLAN MADE FAR BETTER GLAM RECORDS THAN DAVID BOWIE

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 9 October 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

THE APHEX TWIN IS A MODESTLY TALENTED CHANCER

"METAL BOX" IS PRAISED BY ALL AND LISTENED TO BY NONE

― Ben Dot (1977), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

many of the posts here are not blaspheming anything except this tiny pocket of the net where 30 percent of the posters like good music.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Usually unmelodic crap, like most 70s funk and virtually all African American music from the recent 20 years.

Is this suppposed to be ironic? Because if not, it's the single most stupid thing I've read on ILM. So far.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Geir.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

(Hey! I'd listen to "Metal Box" frequently if I owned it. As it is, I listen to "Second Edition" but maybe that's not the same thing.)

MOTOWN > STAX - Thanks to Dave Q for that one.

DONNA SUMMER > ARETHA FRANKLIN

Not blasphemous enough? OK, then...

DONNA SUMMER >>>> BILLIE HOLIDAY

That oughtta do it!

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

DAVID LYNCH MAKES BORING, INCOMPREHENSIBLE FILMS.
-- Wooden

Maybe not the most appropriate forum, but OT-fucking-M, it needed to be said!

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

poppy two step in the vain of Flowers is much better than most grime

Huzzah!

COME BACK, ARTFUL DODGER. ALL IS FORGIVEN.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 9 October 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

IF JOHN ZORN WERE TO EVER GET LAID, HE'D NEVER WRITE OR PLAY ANOTHER NOTE.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 9 October 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahahahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 9 October 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Myonga OTM about Motown, and at least OTM about the first Donna Summer statement :)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 9 October 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

pdf OTM, except for "Sketches Of Spain"

It came out in 1960.

THE WHO NEVER MANAGED TO COME UP WITH A SINGLE DECENT SONG.

― Vic Funk, Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Possibly, but the riffs were enough.

― William Crump (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Madlib needs to chill

― cs appleby (cs appleby), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

damn html

― cs appleby (cs appleby), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

EMO IS TEENAGE MUSIC PERFECTED.

― bill neil (inabillity), Sunday, 10 October 2004 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

IRON MAIDEN, DESPITE BEING THE QUINTESSENCE OF 'HEAVY METAL,' AREN'T ESPECIALLY HEAVY. THIS IS NOT A PUT-DOWN, BY THE WAY.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 10 October 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

THE BEST TWO ALBUMS EVER RELEASED BY NIRVANA WERE CALLED "THE STORY OF SIMON SIMOPATH" AND "ALL OF US"

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Nirvana doesn't do anything for me. I am shocked when I see them anywhere near the top of any list. Maybe I heard it too much on the radio.

I find Bonnie "Prince" Billy utterly unremarkable. I've only heard one of his albums - once - and it hasn't compelled me to listen again.

The Beatles are OK.

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 18 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

Disappointed by the low standards here for "blasphemy."

Anyhow, here's my feeble attempt:

Eric Clapton and Chris Dreja were the first great punk guitarists.*

*Actually were about fourth and fifth (after Richards, Jones, Dylan), but putting "were among" seemed namby-pamby.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ELECTRO HOUSE IS FLORIDA BREAKS...WITHOUT THE BREAKS

― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

SOMETIMES I REALLY LIKE PHISH

― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

NICKELBACK'S "HOW YOU REMIND ME" IS A SUPREME EXAMPLE OF THE POWER BALLAD

ON THE SAME NOTE, GREEN DAY'S "BOULEVARD OF BROKEN DREAMS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THAN ANY OF THEIR "PUNK" SONGS

― Ben Dot (1977), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

BLACK FLAG GOT BETTER WHEN HENRY ROLLINS JOINED THEM

― Ben Dot (1977), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...

I REALLY LIKE THE SONG "HOW YOU REMIND ME"
I DON'T "GET" MILES DAVIS, OR JAZZ IN GENERAL. IT ALL SOUNDS THE SAME
MC HAMMER IS THE GREATEST LIVING RAPPER OF ALL TIME

JOHN LENNON'S GREATEST ACHIEVMENT OF HIS CAREER WAS GETTING SHOT

― musically (musically), Saturday, 3 December 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

I ALSO ENJOY THE SOLO STYLINGS OF ERIC CLAPTON VERY MUCH

― musically (musically), Saturday, 3 December 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

DNA & THE POP GROUP WERE BOTH CRAPPY IRREDEEMABLE NOISE

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

all the current uk bands supposedly indebted to gang of four are better than gang of four.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

all the current uk bands supposedly indebted to gang of four are better than gang of four.

Sorry, but your ears should really be ripped off and fed to famished jackals for that comment.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

SCOTT SEWARDS POSTS ARE INCREDIBLY ANNOYING.

― ___, Saturday, 3 December 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

fuck you!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 December 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

yer lucky to have me! yoo mite actually learn something!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 December 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

LOVELESS IS BADLY PRODUCED AND THE SONG STRUCTURES AND VOCAL MELODIES ARE REALLY DULL.

mzui is the ax that breaks the frozen sea within me

― Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 3 December 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

"THE MESSAGE" IS THE SOLE EXAMPLE OF A RAP SONG WHERE THE EXECUTION IS AS GOOD AS THE CONCEPT, AND THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH DISMISSING RAP MUSIC ON MUSICAL GROUNDS, BECAUSE THOSE MUSICIANS MIGHT AS WELL BE DOING SLAM POETRY OR SOMETHING WITHOUT THE SUPERFLUOUS NOISES

― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Saturday, 3 December 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Blasphemy-friendly space or no, this cannot stand, man:

all the current uk bands supposedly indebted to gang of four are better than gang of four.

YOU ARE PROFOUNDLY WRONG, INSANE, AND EVIL. GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR.

― xero (xero), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

Upon further reading I see that Mr. in NYC has already covered this point. A thousand pardons.

― xero (xero), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/escc1986/MUSIC/BobDylan.jpg

― challa, Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

DEATHCAB FOR CUTY IS FOR WEE TEEN WILLYSUCKERS THAT CAN HARDLY TAKE A PISS STANDING UP

― barry white, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

i thought this thread was supposed to be BLASPHEMOUS

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

A GOOD PORTION OF WHAT IS DEEMED "BLASPHEMOUS" BY THIS THREAD IS ILM CONSENSUS. I MEAN, RADIOHEAD? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

-- David Allen (Davidalle...), October 8th, 2004.

OTM

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

THE ARCADE FIRE ARE SLAVISHLY OVERRATED AND NOT NEARLY AS GOOD AS BONO AND BOWIE SAY THEY ARE.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

THE FIRST DEVO RECORD IS PRETTY BAD.

-- My name is Kenny (bogususe...), October 8th, 2004

This couldn't possibly be less correct.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

people who write everything in capital letters just to get noticed for saying naughty things like bono is cool or stalin is manly really ought to stop doing coke with julie birchill and get a life because they are almost as a bad as people who don't 'do' punctuation

― endofalongday, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm...I don't see any periods or commas in your post there, Mr. Kenny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Myonga Von Bullseye (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

This thread = highest OTM% of all ILM

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Girls Alound and Rachel Stevens are both RUBBISH.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN BOLD CAPITALS FOR IT TO COUNT, fandango. C'mon.

― xero (xero), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

BOTH KANYE & JAY-Z ARE MILQUETOAST MCs

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

HAPPY HARDCORE > CRUNK

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

99% OF ALL RAP PRODUCTION IN 2005 SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME AND NOT VERY GOOD

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

I DON'T REALLY FEEL ALL THAT BAD ABOUT TELLING PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO LISTEN TO SOME FIERY FURNACES ALBUMS A FEW TIMES FOR THEM TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THEM BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING TRUE GODDAMNIT

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

ALL JAZZ REALLY IS CRAP AND I WON'T 'GROW INTO IT' ONE DAY

― Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

All jazz? - blimey...

KATE BUSH IS REALLY REALLY OVERATED, OVERHYPED AND ARIEL IS VERY VERY DULL INDEED. SHE SPENT TOO LONG IN THE STUDIO AND HAS PRODUCED A RECORD THAT SOUNDS NOT UNLIKE A THIRD RATE STING ALBUM.

(how DO you do the bold thing?)

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

And on a more positive note...

I AM CURRENTLY ENJOYING A RANDY TRAVIS ALBUM

So there...

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, and Alex in October 2004 - still OTMFM...

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 8 December 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Porco Dio,

AS FAR AS COMPOSITION IS CONCERNED MOST ELECTRONIC DANCE MUSIC IS STILL PRETTY MUCH AT GROUND ZERO DESPITE BEING TWENTY YEARS OLD

as any listener of 20th century electronic (listening) music eventually understands. It hurts to admit it after 15 years of involvement in the dance sector.

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 8 December 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

'ARULAR' WILL BE IN EVERY TOP TEN LIST, AND STILL BE HORRIBLE

― bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Thursday, 8 December 2005 01:54 (twenty years ago)

Alex in NYC is 100% OTM throughout the thread (outside of his Television comment).

"I DON'T REALLY FEEL ALL THAT BAD ABOUT TELLING PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO LISTEN TO SOME FIERY FURNACES ALBUMS A FEW TIMES FOR THEM TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THEM BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING TRUE GODDAMNIT"

Amen.

"ALL JAZZ REALLY IS CRAP AND I WON'T 'GROW INTO IT' ONE DAY"

That's just shit.

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)

THOM YORKE HAS A TERRIBLE VOICE

― hollaman (joeschmoe), Thursday, 8 December 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

50 CENT MAKES HUGELY BORING MUSIC AND HAS AS MUCH CHARISMA AS A BULLET-RIDDLED COFFEE TABLE

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

A RECORD THAT SOUNDS NOT UNLIKE A THIRD RATE STING ALBUM

otm!!

― Yawn (Wintermute), Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I SOMEWHAT PREFER THE IGGY REMIX OF RAW POWER TO THE OLD BOWIE MIX

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

TEH BLUES IS FOR FAGGITS

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

"PAUL'S BOUTIQUE" IS A TERRIBLE ALBUM, AND WITHOUT THE DUST BROTHERS' PRODUCTION, NO ONE WOULD CARE ABOUT IT IN THE LEAST.

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

70'S SOFT ROCK IS NOT MISUNDERSTOOD, IT IS IN FACT IRREDEEMABLY BAD AND ANYONE WHO ATTEMPTS TO REVIVE IT DESERVES TO BE SHOT

(except for Billy Joel)

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

THE GENRE OF SLOW JAMS IS THE RARE MUSICAL STYLE THAT IS TRULY AND UTTERLY WORTHLESS EXCEPT FOR UGLY PEOPLE TO FUCK TO

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

THE SHAGGS >>>>> PAVEMENT

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

ROCK CRITICS ARE IN A NECK-AND-NECK RACE WITH SPORTS AND FASHION JOURNALISTS FOR THE TITLE OF 'STUPIDIST GROUP OF PROFESSIONAL WRITERS,' AND I DON'T JUST MEAN IN SOME SORT OF 'YOU ARE DUMB BECAUSE YOUR OPINIONS ARE DIFFERENT FROM MINE' SENSE, NO, I MEAN THIS IN A 'YOU ARE DUMB BECAUSE YOU HAVE LESS GENERAL CAPACITY TO REASON AND LEARN AND A SMALLER BODY OF KNOWLEDGE AND SEEM REMARKABLY UNAWARE OF THE WORLD AROUND YOU' SENSE

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Uh, maybe I shouldn't have said that last one.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

This is the smartest thing on this thread, by the way:

"PHISH DON'T DESERVE THEIR FANS"

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

MUSIC IS FOR GIRLS

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Phish seem like pretty nice guys. I dunno...why don't they deserve their fans?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

"SONG CYCLE" >>>>> "PET SOUNDS"

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

THE ELECTRIC GUITAR IS AN INCREDIBLE INSTRUMENT AND ITS INCLUSION ON A SONG ONLY MAKES THAT SONG BETTER, THEREFORE THERE SHOULD BE ELECTRIC GUITAR ON EVERY SONG EVER MADE. PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY HATE GUITARS ARE JUST OVERREACTING TO 90'S ANTI-SYNTHESIZERISM AND SHOULD GET A GRIP ON THEMSELVES

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I took it the opposite way, that their fans are really annoying and Phish are better than them.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

I SOMEWHAT PREFER THE IGGY REMIX OF RAW POWER TO THE OLD BOWIE MIX

seconded

― xero (xero), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

OBSCURE BANDS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS WORSE THAN BANDS PEOPLE HAVE HEARD OF BECAUSE IF THEY WERE ANY GOOD PEOPLE WOULD HAVE HEARD OF THEM

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

PAZZ AND JOPPERS SEEM TO BE REQUIRED TO CHOOSE THE BEST ALBUMS OF THE YEAR FROM A POOL OF FIFTY ALBUMS, SAVE ONE "WILD CARD" PICK, PERHAPS BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF SEEMING NOT IN TUNE WITH "CULTURE" OR MAYBE "THEY WANT THEIR VOTES TO COUNT" OR PERHAPS EVEN THEY'RE INTELLECTUALLY INCURIOUS IN THEIR MUSICAL WORLDVIEW, AND PERHAPS THE P&J POLL WOULD HAVE MORE INTERESTING RESULTS FROM A VOTING BLOC COMPRISED OF MUSIC FANS WHO ARE NOT PAID WRITERS

― gear (gear), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

THE FACT THAT SUN RA PLAYED ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE IS APPEALING LESS IN A 'YAY GOOD DIFFICULT MUSIC WAS ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED' KIND OF WAY AND MORE IN A 'THAT'S SWEET, THEY LET THE RETARD PLAY HIS MUSIC ON TV' KIND OF WAY

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

;-)

― gear (gear), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

"THE ELECTRIC GUITAR IS AN INCREDIBLE INSTRUMENT AND ITS INCLUSION ON A SONG ONLY MAKES THAT SONG BETTER, THEREFORE THERE SHOULD BE ELECTRIC GUITAR ON EVERY SONG EVER MADE. PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY HATE GUITARS ARE JUST OVERREACTING TO 90'S ANTI-SYNTHESIZERISM AND SHOULD GET A GRIP ON THEMSELVES"

GUITARS ARE THE WORLD'S MOST INHERENTLY PEDESTRIAN AND BORING INSTRUMENTS AND SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ALL MUSIC FROM NOW ON.

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Like I said.

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

SUFJAN STEVENS IS A WHINY EMO KID IN THIN DISGUISE.

DANIEL SMITH IS 100x THE MUSICIAN AND SONGWRITER HE IS.

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

CHIPMUNK PUNK>>>>>>>>>>>>>PET SOUNDS

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

THOSE WRITERS WHO MOST LOUDLY DECLARE THAT THEY ARE FEMINIST CRITICS ARE DOING FEMINISM THE BIGGEST DISSERVICE

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

ALL OF VAN MORRISON'S SONGS SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME.

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

PEOPLE WHO GET MAD AT WHITE MUSICIANS FOR MAKING JOKEY IMITATIONS OF EARLY HIP-HOP ARE IGNORING THE FACT THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO LISTEN TO EARLY HIP-HOP TODAY AND NOT GET A SERIOUS CASE OF THE GIGGLES

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

"CHIPMUNK PUNK>>>>>>>>>>>>>PET SOUNDS"

Well, it definately has a better title.

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Off-topic for a music forum, but still needs to be said:

THEATRE>>>>>>>>>FILM

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

JAY-Z IS A BORING GUY

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

oh i want to do one!

JOHN CAGE'S IDEAS WERE NOT THAT REVOLUTIONARY OR INTERESTING, IN FACT, IT'S MOSTLY LAZY, PROTO-NEW AGE SERIALISM-WITHOUT-THE-MATH. AND THE PREPARED PIANO THING IS SOMETHING KIDS HAVE DONE FOREVER, ONLY TO BE YELLED AT BECAUSE PUTTING THINGS ON THE STRINGS RUINS PIANOS!!!

― lindsay bell kay labs (bell_labs), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

BONO HAS A SIZABLE EGO

― gear (gear), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

MICHAEL STIPE = BALD

― gear (gear), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

THE DRUGS REALLY TOOK A TOLL ON KEITH RICHARDS, HUH

― gear (gear), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

DOLLY PARTON'S CLEAVAGE IS BIG, NO

― gear (gear), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

M83 BE FRENCH

― gear (gear), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

ALL GRIME IS CRAP

YO LA TENGO MADE A COUPLE OF DECENT SONGS TOPS

PEOPLE HERE WHO GET ALL EXCITED ABOUT 'POP' LIKE RACHEL STEVENS OR WHATEVER ARE FOOLING THEMSELVES - IT'S CRAP MUSIC FOR 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS AND YOU KNOW IT SO JUST GROW UP

SHOEGAZE MUSIC *IS* GOOD!
SO IS A LOT OF 90s TRANCE!

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

MALKMUS SOLO >>> PAVEMENT

ROBERT SMITH SHOULD HAVE STAYED A GUITARIST IN THE BANSHEES

FROM THE CHOIRGIRL HOTEL = BEST ALBUM OF 1995-2005

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

SISTER GOLDEN HAIR IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE TEN BEST SONGS OF THE 70S

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

FOR THE RECORD, IT ISN'T BOB DYLAN'S VOICE TO WHICH I OBJECT. IT'S THE FACT THAT HIS "MUSIC" SOUNDS TOTALLY UNINSPIRED, FLAT, AND BORING. THAT'S WHY I DON'T MIND DYLAN SONGS DONE BY OTHER (AND BETTER) SINGERS AND BANDS, OR IF I MUST LISTEN TO DYLAN AT ALL I PREFER TO LISTEN TO THE STUFF HE DID WITH THE BAND THAN HIM ALONE ON A DAMN ACOUSTIC GUITAR

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Devo sucked...the Sex Pistols...uh...sucked...yeah...The Fall sucked...oh yeah...OH...POP MUSIC SUCKS...UH...OH YEAH...MADONNA...SUCKS...UH...UH...OH YEAH...ABBA TOTALLY SUCKED...YEAH, BABY...ANNIE SUCKS...ANIMAL COLLECTIVE SUCK...YEAH, UH, UH...WOLF EYES SUCK...YEAH YEAH YEAH UH BOBDYLANROLLINGSTONESTHE BEATLES SUCK THE BEATLES SUCK OH GOD YES THE BEATLES SUCK

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

ROBERT JOHNSON IS NOT THE GREATEST BLUESMAN EVER; HE WASN'T THAT GREAT OF A GUITARIST AND MUCH OF HIS MUSIC JUST BORES.

― Nathaniel (Horbgorbling Slubberdegullion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

THE STROKES SOUND EXACTLY LIKE THE VELVET UNDERGROUND AND HAVE RIPPED OFF SEVERAL ARTISTS (EG. TOM PETTY'S AMERICAN -> 'LAST NIGHT') BUT I STILL LOVE THEM LOADS.
AT LEAST BEFORE 'FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF EARTH'.

― Caroline loves stars, Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

PEOPLE HERE WHO GET ALL EXCITED ABOUT 'POP' LIKE RACHEL STEVENS OR WHATEVER ARE FOOLING THEMSELVES - IT'S CRAP MUSIC FOR 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS AND YOU KNOW IT SO JUST GROW UP

Holy shit, can i get an amen!!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

PEOPLE HERE WHO GET ALL EXCITED ABOUT 'POP' LIKE RACHEL STEVENS OR WHATEVER ARE FOOLING THEMSELVES - IT'S CRAP MUSIC FOR 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS AND YOU KNOW IT SO JUST GROW UP
-- Alex in NYC

Hear! Hear!

― Caroline loves stars, Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit, can i get an amen!!

THE AMEN BREAK IS WEAK

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

THIS THREAD IS ONE LONG BAD ANAL CUNT SONG

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

THE DARKNESS ARE JUST ABOUT THE ONLY INTERESTING BAND THE UK HAS PRODUCED IN THE LAST 15 YEARS. THIS IS LARGELY DUE TO ENGLAND'S FAILURE TO BREED A DECENT DRUMMER SINCE THEY PLANTED JOHN BONHAM.

(Well, maybe one or two.)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

PHISH FANS SMOKE WEED AND OCCASIONALLY ALSO LISTEN TO WIDESPREAD PANIC

― gear (gear), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

NOT A SINGLE INTERESTING NEW RAPPER HAS EMERGED SINCE GEORGE BUSH - THE FIRST ONE - LEFT OFFICE.

(Well, maybe one or two.)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

MY RELIANCE ON THE "Well, maybe one or two" DISCLAIMER IS A WEAK-ASS WAY OF TACITLY ADMITTING THAT I'M TOO OLD/BORED/LAZY TO REALLY INVESTIGATE MY CLAIMS TO SEE IF THEY'RE ACCURATE.

― Myonga Von Bontee's conscience (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LONG OR BAD ANAL CUNT SONG

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

PEOPLE WHO TALK ABOUT BANDS NOT HAVING GOOD RHYTHM SECTIONS DO NOT ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT A RHYTHM SECTION IS THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO BE THE NEXT CHUCK EDDY AND THE SAME GOES FOR PEOPLE WHO TALK ABOUT DRUMMERS WHO DON'T "SWING"

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

ROCK MUSIC HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE A DISAPPOINTMENT.

― Rhodia (Rhodia), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

EVEN THOUGH MOST OF MY FAVORITE BANDS ARE EXTREMELY INSPIRED BY BLACK SABBATH, I'VE NEVER HAD MUCH USE FOR SABBATH THEMSELVES. IN FACT, I THINK I PREFER THE RONNIE JAMES DIO ERA TO THE OLD OZZY STUFF.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

TIHS THRAED = TEH SUKC

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

THE ATLANTA RHYTHM SECTION HAS A WEAK RHYTHM SECTION

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 8 December 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

ROCK MUSIC HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE A DISAPPOINTMENT.

yr dumb.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

"THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LONG OR BAD ANAL CUNT SONG"

I was going to say!

― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

THE STROKES SOUND EXACTLY LIKE THE VELVET UNDERGROUND

People are really starting to talk out of their ass on this thread.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

STEVE ALBINI IS ALMOST ALWAYS OTM

*ducks*

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Oh that's AWESOME!

― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

ROCK MUSIC HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE A DISAPPOINTMENT.

man, i thought this said ROXY MUSIC, i was gonna throw my monitor out the window. good thing i looked again.

― Pablo (Pablo A), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

METAL STILL SUCKS.
IT WAS A MISTAKE TO FORGIVE HIPPIES AND NOW WE ARE PAYING THE PRICE, WHAT WITH SUFJAN STEVENS, DEVENDRA BANHART, AND ALL THE OTHER NEW DONOVANS (WHO SHOULD'VE REMAINED LANGUISHING IN OBSCURITY).

THE SEX PISTOLS WERE BETTER THAN PiL, AND THE BUZZCOCKS WERE BETTER THAN MAGAZINE.

― A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Every metal band ever to come out of the USA has been substandard.

― moley, Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

WHITNEY HOUSTON FRONTING THE JESUS LIZARD WOULD BE THE GREATEST ROCK COMBO IN HISTORY.

― Prince Smegma (aarana), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

PET SOUNDS IS A SHITTY ALBUM. IT'S BORING, MONOCHROMATIC AND TRITE.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

A-HA'S SCOUNDREL DAYS IS A GREAT RECORD

― Atom_ny, Friday, 9 December 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

THE STROKES SOUND EXACTLY LIKE THE VELVET UNDERGROUND
People are really starting to talk out of their ass on this thread.

-- M@tt He1geson

That was simply stating a fact.
And I love the Strokes, but darling, the more songs they make, the more similar it gets.

― Caroline loves stars, Friday, 9 December 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

yeah. totally! Juicebox is soooo Black Angel's Death Song!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 December 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

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thats not a fact at all! the strokes have never sounding anything like the velvets. or television either. darling.

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Friday, 9 December 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

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thats not a fact at all! the strokes have never sounding anything like the velvets. or television either. darling.

-- latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor)

No, not at all like Television, that's something the press came up with in one of their crazy connections. But they do sound like Velvet Underground, and Julian Casablancas is a self-assumed Lou Reed fan.
...Darling.

― Caroline loves stars, Friday, 9 December 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

how do they sound like the Velvet Underground?

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

To me she's still a German

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

Every metal band ever to come out of the USA has been substandard.

-- moley (mol...), December 8th, 2005.

its true. we do punk better, mostly.

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

though slayer & old-school metallica still kick that nightwish bullshit's ass.

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Yes, ok, Slayer and early Metallica excepted.

― moley (moley), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

First of all, Julian Casablancas' voice is an absolute rip off of Lou Reed's bored way of singing; both always sound like they're bored or drunk or stoned. Also their voices are very similar in their tones; grave and sometimes hoarse.
The guitars sound so similars that it is easy to mistake one for another. Especially in the Strokes' upcoming album: now we can actually understand what Julian is saying, and the way the album sounds like two original songs and their several varieties always brings White Light/White Heat to my mind.

― Caroline loves stars, Friday, 9 December 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

"both always sound like they're bored or drunk or stoned. Also their voices are very similar in their tones; grave and sometimes hoarse."

yes, these are qualities exclusive to lou reed. sure.

i understand where some superficial comparisons between them come from, but they don't really sound alike.

anyway, I AM NOT GOING TO ARGUE ABOUT THE STROKES OVER THE INTERNET. I KNOW, I KNOW, I PICKED THE SCAB IN THE FISTR PLACE AND ITS BLEEDING. BUT NOW I POUR ANTISEPTIC.

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

it STINGS OH HOW IT STINGS

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

MIDNIGHT MAURADERS >>> THE LOW END THEORY

DEVENDRA BANHART = ADAM SANDLER

― joygoat (joygoat), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

STREET HASSLE IS BETTER THAN BERLIN

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 9 December 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE KATE BUSH AND HER MUSIC, IN GENERAL. BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN SHE IS A LITTLE TOO SACCHARINE AND TWEE FOR MY TASTE. THIS IS BAD IN ITSELF, BUT IT'S WORSE BECAUSE THAT APPEARS TO BE WHAT TORI AMOS PICKED UP FROM HER.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 9 December 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

RE: THE STOKES, JULIAN RIPS JIM MORRISON WAY MORE THAN LOU REED AND IN FACT THE BAND SOUNDS MORE LIKE THE DOORS THAN ANY GROUP THEY ARE COMMONLY LINKED TO.

― dan. (dan.), Friday, 9 December 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

That's not blasphemy, it's just nonsense. Jim Morrison did not invent crooning, and his style of crooning is not particularly Morrison-like.

― *Jazz Douchebag* Berman (Hurting), Friday, 9 December 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

DEVENDRA BANHART = ADAM SANDLER

-- joygoat (joygoa...), December 8th, 2005.

HAHAHA OTM!

― *Jazz Douchebag* Berman (Hurting), Friday, 9 December 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

Julian's tone totally apes Morrison's and the band knocks the Doors caberet stuff all over Is This It and some of the second one.

― dan. (dan.), Friday, 9 December 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)

THE STROKES SIMPLY AREN'T INTERESTING ENOUGH TO WARRANT THIS MUCH DISCUSSION

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 9 December 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

RAP? MORE LIKE CRAP

― Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 9 December 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

MIDNIGHT MAURADERS >>> THE LOW END THEORY

I SECOND THAT.

― baked beans (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 9 December 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

The outsider music revival is tailored to jaded posers.

― mzui (mzui), Friday, 9 December 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Strong stuff................................................

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 9 December 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, let's see.......

How about....Can. They bore me to tears. And I like Neu!, and am more than happy to listen to Faust.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 9 December 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Around 1988, Neil Young finally got good.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 December 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

NEIL YOUNG'S TRANS, DESPITE ITS HEAVY-HANDED SYNTHESIZER TREATMENTS AND UNEVEN MUSICAL STYLES, IS AN UNDERRATED CLASSIC

― Rhodia (Rhodia), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

SO IS WARREN ZEVON'S TRANSVERSE CITY

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

A lot of these posts are getting kinda wishy-washy, and that's violating the spirit of the thread, I think. Comparing the Strokes' sound to any other band isn't particularly blasphemous, is it? Better you should try something like this: MARVIN GAYE'S "LET'S GET IT ON" and "SEXUAL HEALING" ARE EXTREMELY TEDIOUS, ABOUT AS EROTIC AS A JACK LaLANNE INFOMERCIAL AND CAN'T HOLD A SCENTED CANDLE TO TIM BUCKLEY'S "STARSAILOR", AS FAR AS SEX MUSIC GOES.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Around 1988, Neil Young finally got good.

Dr. Morbius is deaf! and crazy!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 December 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

JUST BECAUSE A BAND IS CHRISTIAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO AUTOMATICALLY DISMISS IT

― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Friday, 9 December 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

i love hating lil jon

― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Friday, 9 December 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

SUPERPITCHER IS FUCKING BORING

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Friday, 9 December 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

> THE BUZZCOCKS WERE BETTER THAN MAGAZINE.

Still are, old fruit!

― Niall, Friday, 9 December 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

THIS ONE PAT TRAVERS LIVE RECORDS I HAVE IS PRETTY MUCH OKAY!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 December 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I BOUGHT THE SONG SIMPLE MAN BY SKYNYRD OFF OF ITUNES AFTER I HEARD IT IN A BEER COMMERCIAL

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

NOMEANSNO ARE SWEET!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

THE GIRL IN POSTER CHILDREN WAS SUPER ADORABLE!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

JUSTUS KOEHNCKE MAKES ME QUESTION MY HETEROSEXUALITY.

― baked beans (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 9 December 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

'THE UNFORGIVEN' AND 'NOTHING ELSE MATTERS' WERE TWO OF METALLICA'S BEST SONGS. THE REST OF THE BLACK ALBUM WAS UNFORGIVABLE TRASH.

― baked beans (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 9 December 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

ANTONY AND THE JOHNSONS IS CRAP, EXCEPT WHEN HE SINGS ABOUT FISTING

― prince Smegma (aarana), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

No way, Through the Never was a tuff old-skool jam on the Black Album!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

ITEM: ELTON JOHN PREFERS THE COMPANY OF MEN

― gear (gear), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

MADONNA IS OLD

― Sym Sym (sym), Saturday, 10 December 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

by the way, that Justus thing was in reference to his music. the man himself is hideous looking.

― baked beans (Royal Bed Bouncer), Saturday, 10 December 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

I PICKED THE SCAB IN THE FISTR PLACE

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 December 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

'HELP ME RHONDA' IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING ON PET SOUNDS

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 10 December 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

There has only been one good musical act per year after I was born.

― Trafalga, Saturday, 10 December 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

JUST BECAUSE A BAND IS CHRISTIAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO AUTOMATICALLY DISMISS IT

-- katie, a princess (kati...), December 9th, 2005.

Has any Christian band ever been worth a shit? Answer: NO.

― Trafalga, Saturday, 10 December 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

VICTORIA WILLIAMS >>>>>>>>>>>> SUFJAN STEVENS

― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 10 December 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

JULIANA HATFIELD IS A BETTER SINGER AND SONGWRITER THAN LIZ PHAIR, CAT POWER OR PJ HARVEY

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 10 December 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Has any Christian band ever been worth a shit? Answer: NO.

BLACK SABBATH

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 10 December 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

"ARE YOU GONNA BE MY GIRL" >>>> "LUST FOR LIFE"

― le hague, Saturday, 10 December 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

the new hold steady record is kinda christian.

most good country, like, ever, is nominally christian....same w/lots of r&b....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

NAS FUCKING SUCKS PEOPLE WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THAT

also

SO DOES MF DOOM

― adam (adam), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

BOB MARLEY WAS ACTUALLY A 53 YEAR OLD WHITE SONGWRITER FROM NEBRASKA NAMED MORTY JANCKOWITZ WHO GOT HIS START WRITING TIN-PAN ALLEY STYLE NOVELTY HITS FOR "DR DEMENTO'S" RADIO SHOW. TO THIS DAY ACTUAL JAMAICANS ARE UNAWARE OF THE EXISTENCE OF ANY SO-CALLED "BOB MARLEY".

― j.r., Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

In other words he's not as great as he's cracked up to be.

― j.r. yoo-wing, Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 30 THAT ARE CRAZY FOR INDIE ROCK CREEP ME OUT. AND SLAVISH INDIE ROCK FANDOM SHOULD BE OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM BY 25.
THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN ADULTS TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY LIKE PIFFLE LIKE DEATH CAB FOR CUTIE.

― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 10 December 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

"Radar Love" is mediocre.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 26 January 2006 07:41 (twenty years ago)

THIS THREAD IS SO DAMN LONG, THAT NO ONE WILL GET A CHANCE AT HEARING WHAT I HAVE TO SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:02 (twenty years ago)

funny that the strongest reaction to blasphemy here has been to gear : we have a winner !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:07 (twenty years ago)

"Never Mind The Bollocks" is completely forgettable, and probably isn't even among the best 100 punk albums ever.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:30 (twenty years ago)

GEIR HONGRO RULES

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:34 (twenty years ago)

oh wait here's a real no-no

NED RAGGETT IS HANDSOME ...LY PAID TO POST ON ILX !
which also explains why he's on every single thread

― clones? (blunt), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:39 (twenty years ago)

and being nice
*ducks*

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 29 January 2006 04:40 (twenty years ago)

IF FRANK ZAPPA WAS A GENIUS THEN I AM TRULY GLAD THERE AREN'T VERY MANY GENIUSES IN MUSIC

THERE IS NOTHING REMOTELY INTERESTING ABOUT CARLOS SANTANA'S GUITAR PLAYING

PROG ROCK IS A HUGE MISNOMER AS THE MUSIC DOESN'T "ROCK" AT ALL. IT'S MERELY JUST HYPER-EXTENDED POP SONGS PILED HIGH WITH SUPERFLUOUS INSTRUMENTATION

― Cliftonb, Sunday, 29 January 2006 06:44 (twenty years ago)

WHY CAN'T ANYONE DISLIKE RAP WITHOUT ANYONE TRYING TO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE A RACIST!!!!

― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 29 January 2006 06:54 (twenty years ago)

THE HOMOSEXUALS AND THEIR OFF-SHOOTS ARE TOTALLY OVERRATED

oh, and

KONONO NO 1 GETS OLD QUICKLY

― nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

THE HIGH TIDE ARE BETTER THAN THE MISUNDERSTOOD

― larry blueberry, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)

THE WHO PLAYED SAFE BLAND MUSIC BECAUSE THEY WERE SAFE BLAND PEOPLE WHO WERE ALWAYS TUCKED UP IN BED BY 9PM AFTER SAYING THEIR PRAYERS

― DR X O'SKELETON, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:58 (twenty years ago)

KONONO NO 1 GETS OLD QUICKLY

OTM

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)

GWAR CAN WRITE ACTUALLY DECENT MUSIC AND ARE NOT A COMPLETELY TALENTLESS GIMMICK BAND.

― LoneNut, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:31 (twenty years ago)

"looking for a cool place to park"

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

"MR. BRIGHTSIDE" ISN'T A BAD SONG

― mark e. ferdinand, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 17:11 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

RADIOHEAD -- ADORABLE RIP-OFFS

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE 1994 AND I THOUGHT NOBODY HEARD ME!

― CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

BOB DYLAN IS CRAZILY OVERRATED AND HAS THE VOICE OF A MOUNTAIN GOAT WITH A TRACHEOTOMY

::sigh:::

Ah, much better.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer)

zing

― omar little, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:39 (seventeen years ago)

STEELY DAN IS THE SMOOTH JAZZ OF SOFT ROCK

― Shushtari (res), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

PRINCE MADE MORE GREAT ALBUMS IN THE 90S THAN IN THE 80S!

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

DISTURBED'S "DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS" IS A PRETTY ROCKIN SONG. IN FACT, NU-METAL HAS BEEN UNFAIRLY MALIGNED FOR TOO LONG!

Also:

EMO/SCREAMO GETS A BAD RAP AND THURSDAY ARE ONE OF (IF NOT THE) MOST TALENTED BANDS WORKING TODAY.

― Mordy, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:04 (seventeen years ago)

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