Madvillain vs. Quasimoto

It surprises me a LOT that "All Caps" is the only thing you can listen to, especially since it doesn't really stand out to me aside from the fact that it's the single. I love that the album has its own internal logic to it, like the whole absence-of-choruses, the two-minute-long songs and how songs are interludes as well as songs, its got its own quirkiness that could only come from having both Doom and Madlib - and that's in the end why it really doesn't have anything to do with Unseen - Doom is wayyyy too awesome an MC, and a very different one.

also, i think the Dudley Perkins is kinda cool.

As for the jaylib joint I wouldn't say unlistenable but it was pretty damn mundane. I would classify it as good enough to not be totally shitty.

I'm surprised anyone actually bought that dudly perkins record.

x-post bwahahaha

technically it doesn't, but it seems like everyone went gaga over Madvillain this year for all the same reasons the largely ignored Quasimoto record was great. minus Doom obv. i realize he is an excellent rapper but i really don't give a fuck about 'proper emceeing' or what have you! as far as i'm concerned both records employ unconventional lyricism over trademark Madlib beats, and the earlier one was a lot more charming. Madvillain sounds kind of dreary in comparison. will have to think about what nickalicious said about its "contradictions" though.

m.

Madvillain is in my top ten this year.

The Unseen was in my top ten in 2000.

But while Doom is definitely a better rapper than Madlib, Madlib's raps fit the mold of Unseen so naturally that it has this old-school, awkward charm to it. It works really well to me and makes for a really great album. And while I still know some hip-hop heads who fucking hate The Unseen because they can't get past the high-pitched voice, it isn't like the shit was a bedroom CD-R or something. People heard it.

Better than Doom though? Don't push it, homie.

and dunno if it's a rumor or not, but i heard from a pretty big LA digger that Madlib uses Ultimate Breaks albums to sample from rather than finding the original albums. but that's neither here nor there.

anyways, if his whole album is him talking about being a loopdigger, and going to jazz stores, and listing his fave labels and artists, and then to use non-original copies of songs, and not actually doing his legwork, kinda lame

And I probably prefer Madvillain.

Off-topic: his production on the new De La single is unexpected.

"In the liner notes, he namechecks 4 Hero, IG Culture, Carl Craig, Theo Parrish, and 'the whole West London Sound,' but this is no mere tribute record."

wtf mate

as far as i'm concerned both records employ unconventional lyricism over trademark Madlib beats

What is a ''trademark Madlib beat,'' i.e., what's so distinctive about it?

madvillain is better just for the fact it doesnt have madlib rapping on it.

ps - what are peoples thoughts on madvillainy 2 (the madlib remixes at least, not the album proper)? i really wanted to like it but thought it was a bit ho-hum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jovsxh8FeYo

wtf
http://youtu.be/jovsxh8FeYo

argh fuck this

wow, that was much better than i expected it to be.

the lyrics actually suit this kinda crazy loose composition and singing pretty well

bump

nice interview w/ doom on the 15th anniversary of madvillainy https://www.spin.com/featured/mf-doom-madvillain-interview-madvillainy-anniversary/