― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Sugar Ray made a lyrical allusion to Killing Joke's "Sanity" in "Fly" (by their own admission, I didn't pick that out on my own). And "When it's Over" is a perfectly acceptable pop song. Moreover, Mark McGrath is a serious music dork (ever seen him clean up on "Rock'n'Roll Jeopardy" on Vh1?), so respect is due.
Smashmouth are the OC XTC
This is woefully incorrect.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link
"Walking On the Sun", see also "All-Star""Fly"
Bad:
That blasted "Do It Again" remakeSingles that tried to recreate the groove and success of "Fly", with the possible exception of "Every Morning"
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
My blood is BOILING!!!!!!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
I think the "Walking ON the Sun" keyb life was from Perez Prado, actually (not fucking Barry Andrews, who plays with more stealth and skill than those slackjaws in Smashmouth could ever fuckng muster).
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC...so furious that now must go walk around the block to cool off. (va, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Sugar Ray: second the McGrath music dork comment. Like Sugar Ray or not, after seeing some r&r celebs left clueless on R&R Jeopardy, it was a pleasure seeing McGrath come across as an obvious music fan.
― Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
wanna back that shit up, dude? Have you heard a Smashmouth album? What is SO innovative, imaginative and original about XTC and what so NOT about Smashmouth? Use nouns please.
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
XTC were a frenetic Beefheart influenced pop-punk band who were quite original in many ways, then became Beach Boys/Beatles/psych influenced orchestral AOR pop. Also, Andy's and Colin's vocal timbre couldn't be further from Smashmouth singer guy's (Steve Harwell?).
Smashmouth are a decent 90s pop rock band with awful singles, the best of which ("Walking on the sun") rips off that one Perry & Kingsley song that begins one of their greatest hits collections.
XTC = Smashmouth or Sugar Ray just doesn't compute at all, Anthony. And I say this without actively hating either band.
Hell, XTC have far more in common with Sublime than the above.
― OAH SEA BICH, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― comme personne (common_person), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
hey! you can do it!hey! or they can do it to you!hey! you can do it!hey! or you can do itHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOeverybody get the club
In a game where you ride on a motorcycle and beat fellow cyclists with implements like cattle prods, lead pipes, and, of course, THE CLUB.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― comme personne (common_person), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes, I have Fush You, Mang. Largely yawny Cali rock with makes the Surf Punks first record sound like No New York.
XTC, by contrast, took the adrenaline and aggression of Brit Punk and Ska and fused it into an entirely original hiccupy style that many have attempted to replicate (from Oingo Boingo through Skeleton Key), but have never matched. They also bothered to write amazing songs in the process.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link
(x-post)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Mark McGrath made clear on some I Love The Whatever show that he can drop all the original Pretenders' names at the drop of a hat.
(x-post) yeah cause smashmouth didn't mix rock and ska in their sound, uh uh no way. also how could they sound like another band? they weren't original or authentic!
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
oh yeah, that was Smashmouth i was talkin about
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
that doesn't quite capture how he responded. he responded by having a 5-minute-long meltdown/tirade, all caught on camera, that suggests he's a lot less secure with himself than the average pop star. the heckler won that encounter easily.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link
Anthony's wrong, though; Third Eye Blind is the band that sounds like XTC.
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link
I just did. (have both on my iPod). shrug?
Play "This Is Pop." Play "Till The Morning Comes." Play "Life Begins At The Hop." Tell me what's so goddamn different. And don't throw irrelevant terms like "orginality" in there. I'm talking about what you hear.
You're original claim: Smashmouth are the OC XTC.
Tell me how relevant "OC" is as an adjective, and I'll gladly claim "originality" is irrelevant in this discussion.
That said, it's a bit disingenuous to compare two bands just because certain songs from the newer band are familiar to a small fraction of the older band's oevre. Many many Lenny Kravitz songs sound like the Beatles, but with modern production and all that hoo-ha. Does that make Lenny Kravitz the "NYC Beatles"?
Also, XTC has had several more albums and several more phases than Smashmouth have had albums, period. This is not discounting Smashmouth by any means. I just think the comparison point is just really odd. Again, I think there was more similarity between Sublime and XTC circa English Settlement than any of the above, and that's saying something.
It's perfectly OK to say that Smashmouth has a lot of songs that ape XTC, but when you claim that "Smashmouth are the OC XTC", that's a re far more bold statement, and you'd better know damn well enough about both bands if you're going to validly support that claim.
― OAH SEA BICH, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― OAH SEA BICH, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
How is my alleigance to Killing Joke any different from your constatn, foundation-free defense of Limp Bizkit, Good Charlotte and Warrant. If I'm a cartoon character, you're no different.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I know lots about XTC, Oah Sea. I've owned and heard plenty of albums throughout their career. There's reason I quickly amended my statement to reaffirm I'm discussing the early period of XTC (which, if I included English Settlement, would take up HALF of their Fossil Fuel comp), but the later years of XTC aren't very OC, so I'm tempted to say that part of Smashmouth being the OC XTC is that they turned into movie plug-in Burger King endorsers rather than boring reclusive puds (though Wasp Star was refreshing).
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Qualify that. I'm only vitriolic at the claim that they are in some way equivalent to XTC. Smashmouth are otherwise fine little insects, but nothing more.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link
While I'd argue I've laid down plenty of foundation in the threads where these artists were discussed, if you read my post I was saying I found it odd you would use the same unwarranted techniques that are used upon you.
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
You're being presumptious, as always. You have no idea how/why I appreciate the bands I like. But speak ill of them or make ludicrous claims about them and you're likely to get me firing back.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
That's a very strange distinction to draw.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link
That I'd be curious to hear.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
Smashmouth's lyrical oeuvre does NOT stand up to XTC by a fuckin' country mile.
Smashmouth's bass player couldn't keep up with Colin Moulding's bass playing if his very life depended on it.
Smashmouth are all tiki drinks with paper umbrellas and hawaiian shirts and Vans. Nothing more.
And YES, I'm referring to the first few albums, Anthony, not Skylarking or even Black Sea. I take it you mean White Music through Drums & Wires.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
x-post
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Andy Partidge == Robert Smith without the weepy gothishnessSmash Mouth Guy == Frank Black with a tan and a tequila
(I tried to build some kind of comparison between Smash Mouth Guy and Andrew Elridge, but I fear that if I had succeeded in crafting a comparison that worked, the entire universe would collapse in on itself and we'd all be killed.)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link
and i have no doubt that smashmouth would've loved to have written any of 100 or so xtc songs.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link
this is the one point I'd seriously debate (I'll concede that XTC were perhaps flashier musicians, but it's a compliment to XTC that I'd never think to laud them for Rush-like qualities) and I brought up the vocal difference before anyone else.
I think Andy Partridge would look at the lyrical puns and subject shifts within tracks like "All Star" and "Walking On The Sun" and be very impressed. The second verse of "All Star" is a hysterical example of intentional self-contradiction:
It's a cool place, and they say it gets colder You're bundled up now, wait till you get older But the media men beg to differ Judging by the hole in the satellite picture The ice we skate is gettin pretty thin The water's gettin warm so you might as well swim My world's on fire, how about yours? Cuz that's the way i like it and i never get bored
A lot of Smashmouth's tracks are cynical in the same manner as XTC, ESPECIALLY "Walking On The Sun," which I consider their most XTC like track. I doubt any of you have actually paid attention to the lyrics of a Smashmouth song, so I don't know why you're claiming to know if they have any value.
Dominique, there's LOTS of secret intelligence bubbling forth underneath Smashmouth's Shrek-sellage. The lyrics of "Walking On The Sun" (which I didn't even notice back when the video was all over) are railings demanding responsibility and a lack of political apathy. Andy P would SO approve.
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Style does not always equate with technical chops. Being a great musician, I think, doesn't necessarily mean you are the most technically versed player.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― OAH SEA BICH, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― big chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
XTC totally WANTED to be popular. Partridge admits to being pissed and jealous when Moulding's songs started being hit singles with Drums And Wires. When they saw the work was too hard they went headlong into cult world.
Smashmouth were also witty little hoppy cynics, they just wanted to get PAID more than they wanted to be respectable. Again, OC.
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― big chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link
plus similar organ sound
Have you ever actually listened to Go 2 by XTC?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link
What fucking planet do you live on?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link
Greg Camp is way more influenced by the Costello/Partridge school of songwriting than the ? one (both took ?'s sonic elements though)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Mentioning Costello made me realize that A)stuff like "Radio Radio" is another obv. Smashmouth touchstone B)the Attractions were also way more flashy, stylish musicians than Smashmouth C)like XTC Costello traded in that flash for over-dub hysteria as soon as possible
so what I'm wondering is do people think Costello and Partridge would have bothered with having great bands if they started today or would they go right into the Abba-Sgt. Peppers shit (Costello hangs with Q-Tip, so he may have done similar-to-Smashmouth hip-hop flavorage)?
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
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oc = more comfortable with commercialism, smiling for the cameras, hip-hop happened
-- manthony m1cc1o (anthonyisrigh...), September 14th, 2004.
which describes Limp Wrist and the Dance Disaster Movement perfectly.
― OAH SEA BICH, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bono In NYC (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
smashmouth i can take or leave.
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
though since this is the Say Something Nice thread I'll note that while they sound nothing like XTC I'll take Sugar Ray's self-titled album over any of XTC's. Best pop-rock album of the millenium so far.
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― OAH SEA BICH, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
haha and i thought you were gonna get defensive abt my "hyperbolic" comment !!
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link
haha - "too"
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
You would.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
They're on this disc I burned that had that Roll Deep Crew album which I also snagged from you (which is v. v. good). Late seventies punk or pop or something.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
really? i think of gwen as a dumpee at heart.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link
do you mind if i imagine you saying this in ghostface voice?
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
"Waiter, as lovely as your Filet Mignon special tonight sounds, could I just please have an order of year-old, room-temperature Spam? And can I have it in a dog dish please?"
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
though there's are plenty of human beings who are Mark-like sadsacks (if Mark didn't look like Mark or make money like Mark he would be on ILX).
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― minolta (minolta), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― big chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 03:28 (nineteen years ago) link
i can't say i've ever really liked a song by either.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 07:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sexual Air Supply (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
An appropriate fate for both bands.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 November 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Cocks are the human reproductive organ XTC.
wow, just read most of this thread - gotta be one of the funniest instances of an ILM thread being derailed, with the whole Smash Mouth = XTC argument going back and forth btw. Anthony and Alex for-fucking-ever. high point was the above comment, which had me actual LOLing for about 5 minutes. hilarious!
― stephen, Friday, 2 November 2007 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I love this thread so much.
― HI DERE, Friday, 2 November 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Best pop-rock album of the millenium so far.
A+ trolling
― gershy, Saturday, 3 November 2007 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link
The aforementioned Perrey & Kingsley song, by the way, is "Swan's Splashdown." Good taste by Smashmouth.
― Jake Brown, Saturday, 3 November 2007 04:37 (sixteen years ago) link
That was not trolling. It was wrong but it was his honest opinion. Is Anthony gone now?
― filthy dylan, Saturday, 3 November 2007 04:38 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, i was just joking. he posts under the name da croupier (check the recent sasha frere jones thread for classic anthony)
― gershy, Saturday, 3 November 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link
idunnowhattotype (1 day ago) +2 if you don't like Sugar Ray, then quite virtually you don't deserve to exist.
― Tape Store, Saturday, 3 November 2007 05:38 (sixteen years ago) link
i like "walking on the sun"
― latebloomer, Saturday, 3 November 2007 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link
-- latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, September 15, 2004 7:58 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
LIAR
― latebloomer, Saturday, 3 November 2007 06:33 (sixteen years ago) link
this thread is near IT WAS A PRED SHIP-quality fun
― latebloomer, Saturday, 3 November 2007 06:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Smash Mouth- shrewdest rock band ever. Right from the start, they announced they were only interested in making some money, didn't care about looking cool. At the height of Napster, they realized it wasn't about record sales, but song licensing. For a few years, it seemed like that "Hey now, you're a rockstar!" song was in every movie soundtrack. When it came on over the credits of Cold Mountian, I was like "Woah!"
― bendy, Saturday, 3 November 2007 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Lyrical references -The line "with her finger and her thumb in the shape of an 'L' on her forehead" refers to the popular mocking hand gesture "Loser".
-The line "all that glitters is gold" is probably a parody of the proverb, "All that glitters is not gold." It may also be a parody of the well-known line from the Led Zeppelin song Stairway to Heaven.
-Given that it accompanies other metaphorical references to weather, and is followed by a line referring to a "hole in the satellite picture" (probably a reference to the hole in the ozone layer), the term "meteor man" in the line "but the meteor men beg to differ" most likely refers to television meteorologists. It may or may not also be a pun referring back to the line "only shooting stars break the mold", since a meteor is also referred to as a "shooting star".
-The second verse is as follows: "It's a cool place, and they say it gets colder. You're bundled up now, wait til' you get older. But the meteor men beg to differ judging by the hole in the satellite picture.
The ice we skate is getting pretty thin. The water's getting warm, so you might as well swim. My world's on fire, how bout yours? That's the way I like it and I never get bored"
When viewed from a scientific perspective, this aspect of the song seems to be indirectly referring to global warming.
― Tape Store, Saturday, 3 November 2007 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Together forever.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 November 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link
"cuddly people"?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 4 November 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link
the asshole who snags the hotchick you've been eyeing but who thinks of you as 'just a friend' and then eight hours later she calls you in the middle in the night in tears crying about how 'he stuck a table leg in my vagina'? - that's sugar ray
This should be a pull quote on the back cover of a Sugar Ray bio.
― Darin, Sunday, 4 November 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
You have fuckin' NO EARTHLY IDEA of what you're talking about, and your festering pie-hole should be duct-taped forver shut.
Wow. I was mad.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 4 November 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link
no, you were Alex in NYC
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 4 November 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Right from the start, they announced they were only interested in making some money
Hardly original.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c267/petalbombc5/gene_simmons.jpg
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 4 November 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link
sugar ray made some great summer time pop singles. and they were not bad live (had free tix for some concert that they performed at) either! plus they had supercat on a track.
― pipecock, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Um...yes.
http://bloggingonthesun.blogspot.com/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
huh
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Smash-Mouth-and-the-Oakland-A-s-get-into-a-10422248.php
One of the biggest zingers of the exchange came from the A’s after Smash Mouth said the Bay Area team shouldn’t expect a World Series and that they were being cheap.
“@smashmouth @whatwouldDOOdo Guess you've got it all figured out. Except how to make a hit since 1999,” the A’s wrote.
― brimstead, Saturday, 29 October 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
lol
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
I love how Sean Doolittle "zinged" them by using their song titles in a sentence but it was all cover songs which made the zing really lamesauce
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQzMB8x59jo
the only youtube channel I ever subscribed to.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 31 October 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
^^ Somehow makes both songs tolerable!
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Monday, 31 October 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/cool_as_heck/status/804796246909030400
"All Star by Smashmouth but the words are ordered from lowest to highest score in scrabble"
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/01/all-star-by-smash-mouth-except-every-note-is-c.html
― j., Friday, 13 January 2017 21:55 (seven years ago) link
Something nice about Sugar Ray: "Danzig Needs a Hug" was an excellent song title!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lj7tXDVbk8
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:03 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v64JDC4413s
― nxd, Thursday, 9 February 2017 11:50 (seven years ago) link
The sound of a new millenium
― devvvine, Thursday, 9 February 2017 11:58 (seven years ago) link
i thought this revive was about sugar ray's cover of "spinning away" being linked on the eno thread. somebody should definitely poll the beach ost - it's better than it has any right to be.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 February 2017 12:44 (seven years ago) link
kinda amazing how the drum loop sounds equally shitty on both the Eno/Cale and Sugar Ray version
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
looking at the related videos there, we must be at peak ironic Smash Mouth. you could host a film night of just "All Star Variations"
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link
Smash Mouth - All Star but everything's out of syncPancadaPls44,554 views
Closer by the Chainsmokers but every lyric is replaced by All Star by Smash MouthSpicyProductions15,547 views
Allstar but every word is in alphabetical orderDpaje496,798 views
nearly half a million views! that must be the one that was on the AV Club
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link
don't wanna give undue credit but did any of this stuff exist before Neil Cicierega's Mouth Sounds?
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link
― Van Horn Street, Monday, October 31, 2016 6:29 PM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
very talented
― marcos, Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau)
they've _all_ been on the av club. last week it was "smooth" by santana featuring rob thomas repitched to twelve-tone.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 February 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV5umyUTEYI
Bummed we can't search 77 threads tbh
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/vagidictoris/all-star-by-smash-mouth-but-all-notes-are-in-c
someone tell me what post-punk band this sounds like
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 17 March 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link
In June 2011, a writer at Something Awful offered $20 if the band's lead singer, Steve Harwell, would eat 24 eggs. Others on the site and on Twitter began offering additional sums, eventually targeted to various charities. In July 2011, Harwell accepted the challenge if fans could gather pledges of $10,000 for St. Jude's Children's Hospital. The fundraising goal was reached in less than a week's time. A self-styled "reality TV fan," Harwell requested that his friend celebrity chef Guy Fieri prepare the eggs. The event was held at Johnny Garlic's restaurant, in Dublin, California on October 11, 2011. With about 150 people attending, Harwell was able to finish the eggs with the help of audience members as well as the San Jose Sharks mascot, Sharkie. $15,000 was raised for charity.
― naus, Saturday, 18 March 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YJfXdSR85o
― dyl, Saturday, 18 March 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z48NmdWbquw
― Coolio Iglesias (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1SKbEaUkAAHbsI.jpg:large
― physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:31 (seven years ago) link
"Smash Mouth" would indeed be a perfect name for an STD
― Evan, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:35 (seven years ago) link
we need to have a poll soon: Which post-Nirvana radio rock band succeeded at the Self-Aware Retro Olympics?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link
you could have Smash Mouth, 311, Marcy Playground, Crazy Town, etc.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link
i do have to give Smash Mouth props for going with that 60s organ sound. they had a Vox Continental in their "Walking on the Sun" music video. that's pretty cool. and that was in the late 90s. this wasn't that long after Beck had a hit w the similarly 60s fetishizing organ riff for "Where It's At".
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link
i always think of what Mark McGrath would do when I get in a pickle. and invariably the answer has something to do with human trafficking.
Sugar Ray sucks
― i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 00:05 (seven years ago) link
Smash Mouth (album) Wikipedia article edited anonymously from US House of Representatives https://t.co/gF2C5eCTZZ— congress-edits (@congressedits) October 19, 2017
― mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link
your tax dollars at work folks
― midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link
I always liked "Fly" tbqh
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link
pure fun throwaway song with no pretensions of being anything, and a nice guitar lick
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
And before Smashmouth there was Edwyn Collins with “girl like you”.
I do love those 60’s organ riffs. Right now the only one I can think of is Shocking Blue’s Venus (which is a classic imho). Any other songs that you can think of?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
96 Tears ftw
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
there's a little known band called Doors you might be interested in
― brimstead, Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
― brimstead, Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
"All around the world statues crumble for me" is a great line
hated Every Morning as a song but i did enjoy the second hand nostalgia gen x 70s roller disco vibes of that video
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
The sounds of the Vox Continental, Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer have never really gone away.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
sugar ray's big singles were all diminishing returns attempting to capture the magic of Fly
― nomar, Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
More like cashing in on the magic of Fly. I imagine the 14:59 album gave them some huge cash.
It was kind of funny how Sugar Ray got a pass from the nu metal crowd in my generation, every morning and someday are too cheesy even for a boy band.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
"when it's over" stands on its own two legs as a summer jam imo
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
xp all three of those songs are great
they did a cover of "Spinning Away" by Eno & Cale for The Beach soundtrack. I was kind of floored hearing that during the movie. "huh, someone did a cover of 'Spinning Away'...", then later "Sugar Ray made this!??"
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
― brimstead, Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:11 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, and the lyrics are full of wonderful non sequiturs
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link
I wonder how many Public Image Ltd fans were hipped to them by Smashmouth?https://i.imgur.com/5npRlHO.png
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
i get "falls apart" in my head every time i have a hangover, idk why except i tend to feel like i'm literally falling apart
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 October 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link
My friend, who has been to hundreds of concerts before, still insists that a late 1990's Sugar Ray concert was the best concert he ever went to.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link
I kinda have a fondness for Mark McGrath, he's got this Nic Cage-like thing about him where he can't say no to anything and he does it all with the same coke-driven intensity. He did a Sharknado movie (as a main character, no less!), he joined a weird Christmas band, and now he's palling around with Mike Love for some reason. All this stuff is awful but still, good on him. There's a video of "The Beach Boys" playing "Do It Again" in front of the Capitol and at one point he puts his arm around Mike Love, points to him and says "THAT'S MIKE LOVE!!" (his mic isn't on but you can lip-read this easily). Where else you gonna get that sort of enthusiasm for something so mind-blowingly awful?
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
McGrath's 4 year stint as a host on Extra! is to date the best thing the show has ever done.
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link
he was also on a massively amusing show called Killer Karaoke. brought in to replace Steve-O!!
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
do you like this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c4madL-UA0
― budo jeru, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:35 (eight months ago) link
no, but have known people who probably do, they're alright, they have fun here and there
I will admit that I have somehow seen Smash Mouth live, two times (ask me anything), and they have at least two songs that are pretty good
also pretty cool to have a career resurgence because you were on the Shrek soundtrack and young people are weirdos
― Florin Cuchares, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:59 (eight months ago) link
sugar ray is playing free in a park near me on 9/3. should i see them?
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:03 (eight months ago) link
Harwell could be seen dropping his drinks, swaying back and forth onstage and flipping the bird while cursing multiple times.“I’ll f—king kill your whole family, I swear to God,” he screamed to one fan in his audience.
― brimstead, Friday, 18 August 2023 20:23 (eight months ago) link
Steve Harwell not doing too good...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/smash-mouth-steve-harwell-hospice_n_64f522b8e4b08f6e30e9813d
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 September 2023 02:04 (seven months ago) link
what a strange career this band has had, I believe the only original member now is the bass player
wanted to confirm that so I looked up the Wikipedia entry and clicked onto the former guitarist/songwriter to see what he's up to, and that is some kind of supergroup called The Defiant featuring the lead singer of Mighty Mighty Bosstones
so then I wondered what that sounded like and found this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUbNkz9tIpU
oof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewzs9gfpmu8
double oof
also the new smash mouth singer is no Steve Harwell, somehow
― Florin Cuchares, Monday, 4 September 2023 02:31 (seven months ago) link
here's sugar ray kissing up to our trump-lite county executive, last night at the park.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nqDcvogg4I
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 4 September 2023 13:10 (seven months ago) link
to be fair he did put on a good series of free concerts this summer incl. judy torres, nice & smooth, southside johnny, boyz II men, lords of 52nd st (bliiy joel's 70s backing band), eli young band, tabou combo, france joli, sugar ray.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 4 September 2023 13:17 (seven months ago) link
no way was there 120,000 people there.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 4 September 2023 13:24 (seven months ago) link
RIP Steve Harwellhttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/04/arts/music/steve-harwell-smash-mouth-all-star-dead.html
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 4 September 2023 16:33 (seven months ago) link
damn, RIP
― c u (crüt), Monday, 4 September 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link
It’s sad that he had a son who died at 6 months.
― Disappointing cantaloupe (morrisp), Monday, 4 September 2023 16:43 (seven months ago) link
https://banhmiverlag.bandcamp.com/album/all-star-mixtape
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 4 September 2023 16:43 (seven months ago) link
xpost yeah I'd drink myself to death too if that happened to me
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 4 September 2023 17:12 (seven months ago) link
the prospect of losing my daughter terrifies me. I’d probably drink myself to death too. Wasn’t aware of any of this prior to his death and now I feel depressed about the whole situation.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 September 2023 18:05 (seven months ago) link
RIP steve. he deserves better than that nytimes obit imo
― budo jeru, Monday, 4 September 2023 18:08 (seven months ago) link
Music wise “staring at the sun” one of my favorite songs to hear on the radio when I was like 12. Wish that one was more popular with the new generations.
“All star” one of the most fun songs adopted by meme culture, I still see it used and it’s still funny for me. I’m not sure if I’ll be able to listen to it without feeling a bit sad now.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 September 2023 18:19 (seven months ago) link
RIPI definitely dug Walking on the Sun at the time, i liked the retro vibe
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 September 2023 18:41 (seven months ago) link
RIP
I always thought 'Walking on the Sun' sounds like what the Animals would have sounded like in 1997. Always dug that tune.
― earlnash, Monday, 4 September 2023 18:49 (seven months ago) link
yeah that feels kinda otm, i like that
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:13 (seven months ago) link
I always assumed it was built around a Doors sample.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:25 (seven months ago) link
now that you mention it, it does sound a lot like "Soul Kitchen"
― budo jeru, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:26 (seven months ago) link
As mentioned upthread they used a Vox Continental for that 60’s organ sound.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:32 (seven months ago) link
it’s groovy, man
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 September 2023 20:30 (seven months ago) link
Always loved the way the chorus mimicked an infomercial
― frogbs, Monday, 4 September 2023 21:10 (seven months ago) link
and yea "All Star" had some real legs, can't really think of another 90s tune that's been memed/mashed up so much. wonder how much Neil Cicierega had to do with that. still speaks to what a well-written hit that was, just full of memorable parts to the point where you could quote any of it and people would instantly know what you were talking about.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 01:53 (seven months ago) link
The NYT "harder-driving guitars" is not a description I would think of for "All Star." (Perhaps accurate but the guitar is the most forgettable part.)
Like every other millennial the chorus plays in my head when I read the name and I chalk the longevity up to being a perfect kind of kid's song. "And all that glitters is go-ooh-ld/only shooting stars break the mo-ooh-ld" is tailor-made for a group of 7-10 year olds to sing along to.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 08:27 (seven months ago) link
"Walkin On The Sun" reminds me of Fastball's "The Way" - more energetic but both doing a '70s lounge thing.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 08:32 (seven months ago) link
Astro Lounge actually quite a bit more entertaining than I expected it to be. "All Star" doesn't really fit at all on it
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 September 2023 18:05 (six months ago) link