Jon Hassell -- Classic Or Dud?

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That's right: everybody's favorite player of the mosquito. Or vacuum cleaner, rather. Trumpetista extraordinaire, Hassell seems like some kind of genius or at least a guy who knew how to promote his unique schtick. Of the Hassell records proper I know, Fourth World Vol. 1: Possible Musics basically sets the table for the rest of the decade: African and Latin percussion (some electronic), richly-textured synthesizer pads and sometimes ambient sounds, with Hassell's trumpet modally surveying the landscape, itself electronically altered. Power Spot (on ECM, no less) is maybe less subtle, but more rhythmic in some ways, with the succintly-named The Surgeon of the Nightsky Restores Dead Things by the Power of Sound, recorded live, following in the same vein. Voiceprint, I didn't like so much.

As for his work as a sideman, love him on Remain In Light and he's great on the Words For the Shaman Sylvian EP.

And as a side note, while everyone was consumed with fury accusing My Life In the Bush of Ghosts of cultural imperialism, for reasons unknown to mankind, Possible Musics escaped such criticisms and ended up being one of the most highly-regarded albums of Eno's career. Interesting.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

He's good but there's no need to exagerrate his achievements. I really like the album with Eno, but even there, I often find his approach to rhythm too rigid and less sophisticated than the what actually goes on in the music of the cultures he emulates. (Of course, I don't like the rhythmic approach of most so-called "dance music" very much either, so this may just be another example of me being out of step with the times.) Anyway, I tend to find the rhythmic percussion (conventional or electronic) side of his work the least satisfying.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

love the 808 State remix of Voiceprint, weird soft spot for Empire, don't know the other stuff but time i heard more perhaps

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

steve, I bet you would like Dream Theory in Malaya for the very rhythmic qualities that I don't like, or at least am ambivalent about. I still kind of like it though.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

hey matthew i wasn't accusing eno at all. i like that record and used to love it. i also love "dream theory in malaya".

what does everyone think of "fascinoma" where hassell goes to lengths to record himself and the bad without treatments? even has a version of nature boy.

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

favorite two besides Possible Musics are Vernal Equinox and Flash of the Spirit, but every album from 1977 to 1988 gets five stars from me. (except maybe for Power Spot). the Eno ambients rarely make it off the shelf anymore but I'm still listening to these regularly.

some people love the techno/pop fusion experiments of City and Dressing for Pleasure, they're not bad commercial music, but the drum machine & techno sounds bind them to the time, unlike the earlier records.

great discography at the website - http://www.jonhassell.abelgratis.co.uk/HTML/discs1.html

(Jon L), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I like bits and pieces of Fascinoma. My favorite is a track (I forget the title, but I've probably given it before) with Jacky Terrason (sp?!) tearing it up on the piano. The whole thing reminds me a bit of parts of Sun Ra's Other Planes of There.

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Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(Yes, I regularly have trouble spelling "exaggerate.")

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

>I tend to find the rhythmic percussion (conventional or electronic) side of his work the least satisfying.

if you're talking about City and Dressing for Pleasure, I'm with you. the drum machines dominate. there are some fantastic percussionists on his other records though, have you heard Flash of the Spirit? 10 piece percussion ensemble from Burkina Faso...

(Jon L), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I wasn't thinking of those, which I haven't heard, except maybe for a track here and there. Even on the Hassel recordings I like, the rhythmic side of it feels weak. I am not familiar with Flash of the Spirit though.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

On the other hand, after I wrote the first thing I wrote, I realized that I don't actually know anything about the music from many of the cultures he has drawn from.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

And neither did Eno or Hassell!

No, seriously -- I've always wondered if the more "traditional" rhythm beds and generally obtuse textures of Possible Musics saved it from MLITBOG's fate.

Milton, I always liked Power Spot -- more driving rhythms and all. What's your beef?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 12 August 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Docked one star for the DX7 presets. I'd feel the same about Tallis if he'd added even just one kazoo to 'Spem In Alum'. It's still a good record.

Rockist has a point about the occasional stiff rhythm on some of these records, but this music is primarily about impossible texture & references to things that almost don't exist, so I don't mind.

(Jon L), Thursday, 12 August 2004 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Docked one star for the DX7 presets.

Huh — I consider myself fairly sensitive to those, but never noticed on Power Spot.

this music is primarily about impossible texture & references to things that almost don't exist

Exactly — it's as if no one told them exotica was devoid of substance.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 12 August 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

odd fact popo pickers

he did the music for the practice

gaylord, Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

What does that mean?

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess "The Practice" is a show or soemthing. (Give in to punctuation.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Was an Ally McBeal spinoff about a legal firm from a few years back. For the show's theme they reused the track 'Club Zombie' from Dressing For Pleasure.

I listened to Power Spot again last night, the last two tracks are fantastic... it's not the DX7 sounds, there's just some looped sequences that wear me down a little on some tracks. But the album ends brilliantly, those last two pieces...

(Jon L), Thursday, 12 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll have to put those on.

It occurs to me that it isn't Voiceprint I didn't care for but rather Dressing For Pleasure — I did notice, however, that one track on the latter sampled the section of Miles Davis' "Sivad" (the part that showed up on Get Up With It as "Honky Tonk"). It hit me that maybe he was drawing the comparison a little too obviously with that...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

This *might* be relevant: http://members.aol.com/blissout/purefusion.htm

's a Simon Reynolds article about multi-culture v. mono-culture and the types of fusion that Hassell, Eno and Byrne were/are undertaking. Fourth World, ahoy!

Sam Benson (Sam Benson), Thursday, 12 August 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post, that track is 'G-Spot'. the entire album is covered with classic jazz samples cut-up and scrambled over mainstream hip hop drum loops. he thanks his dj/samplist in the liner notes for introducing him to hip hop culture -- it's as if he heard the Public Enemy records, realized they were doing the same things he'd been doing with sampling on Aka-Darbari-Java years before, and consciously decided to make a commercial record by sampling from traditional jazz instead of obscure ethno-field recordings. strange around the edges, but way too tasteful.

City is transitional, first time he introduces outright drum machine sounds to reference uhm 'the City' but at least the rest of the sounds are still abstract, and it's got some good playing... still...

(Jon L), Thursday, 12 August 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot of times (at least on Fourth World Vol.1, which is the one I know best), Hassell sounds like a very abstract image of "eastern"-soundingness. I hesitate to say anything like this since it's so obvious, but it does kind of interest me. I don't know enough to say, but it doesn't seem like he's actually consistently following any modes here, but there are all of these little gestures that evoke eastern, modal, microtonal music. The way one thing follows another, in the long run anyway, doesn't sound to me like anything you'd hear in, say, Indian (not that I know much about it) or Arabic music; but momentarily it does. Sort of an organic sampling effect. At least, I think that's what's going on. Also, at times his horn sounds more like what would be done with a voice than with an instrument. Without question, this music is good preparation for hearing non-western music (not that that is it's only value--I do like it as it is).

(He has studied Indian classical music though hasn't he?)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

studied with Pandit Pran Nath a bit when hanging out with La Monte Young (Hassell played on this record as well as many Young bootlegs from that time).

(Jon L), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I knew there was a La Monte Young connection.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Fourth World Vol. 1 I absolutely love, but City was a big letdown. I read about that in Toop's Ocean of Sound and the record didn't come close to living up to his description.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Hassell perform much live? I saw him once a long time ago, probably in the late 80's. It was him and some guy with a frame drum, if I remember correctly, and maybe some other people with electronics. I don't remember too much about it except that it was okay but not mind-blowing.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I might listen to that album some more and jot down some notes.

I'm thinking about the way he will frequently finish a line he's playing, with a strong sort of feeling of closure, and then there's often (usually?) some sort of echo effect. You get that sort of sound a lot in Arabic singing, or especially Qur'anic recitation, without effects, just as a result of acoustics.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

On the other hand, after I wrote the first thing I wrote, I realized that I don't actually know anything about the music from many of the cultures he has drawn from.

you kidder.

(Jon L), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking especially of the African and Micronesian (is that the right category?) sources he's drawn on. The middle eastern stuff I will admit to knowing something about, but only non-technically, and in comparison to other westerners.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I think that's the point, Rockist. I think milton was onto something when he said it's like "references to things that don't exist." It's all in the suggestion with Hassell, oblique strategies, as it were, hinting at things we recognize but don't fully understand -- a sort of phantom meaning.

Maybe I've had too many whiskey sours this evening, but that's how it sounds to me at this moment.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 13 August 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The first time I heard Hassell was at 3am, 1985, on the radio... the previous show had just ended, the next DJ put on 'Charm' without any intro. Imagine listening to that piece for the first time without knowing how long it was going to last, always seemingly winding down and imperceptibly fading out, but then out of nowhere spiraling right back at you full force. I just sat there staring at the speakers for half an hour.

DJ never back announced the piece, either, I didn't find it again for another year...

(Jon L), Friday, 13 August 2004 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's funny you say that -- "Charm" always seems to go on and on. And on. And...on. But for some reason, it's not in a bad way. What is it, you think, that makes Possible Musics such a success compared to the (admittedly very good) others?

BTW, milton, I think you were talking about "Wing Melodies" which has sequences and triggers both -- and digibells to boot. But I like it.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 13 August 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, while we're at it, we should clear this up: Possible Musics does NOT sound thin.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 13 August 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

here's the interview: http://www.furious.com/perfect/hassell.html some interesting things about ego wars with byrne and eno. rockist's comments about voice > trumpet were dead on, voice is the original instrument.

Sometimes the first one, Vernal Equinox is my very favorite, it's so minimal; no harmonizer on the trumpet yet, just occasional subtle Buchla. the concept is already there, intensely technological yet primal music.

I like Earthquake Island though some don't, it's very much in the tradition of other 70's jazz fusion records. The harmonizer shows up for the first time. Great band; Rockist, I fully recommend this record if your complaint of the other records involve stiff rhythms. Liner notes: 'Including Nana (Vasconcelos)' Imaginative Percussion'.

Eno set him off on a path towards fragmented, studio-only creations. The three EG records are progressively less about live performance, by Aka-Darbari-Java, apart from one other drummer who was probably sent home after one or two sessions, it's all Hassell & a sampler. I've got it on now, an incredible record, sound of the mirror.

My problem with Power Spot is that it tries to reintroduce live performances, but the sequencers are still leading, and win out, till the very end... Flash of the Spirit is my other favorite because you can tell they started by recording the live band, and the treatments came later...

(Jon L), Friday, 13 August 2004 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have much to add other than Fascinoma is the record I put on when I'm a bit anxious and don't know what to do with myself. About five minutes in I find something else to do. It clears out the clutter somehow.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 13 August 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

FWIW, I was DJing at a Matmos gig in Cleveland and dropped "Datu Bintung At Jelong" (as you do), and Matmos' MC Schmidt came racing to the decks to declare that Dream Theory In Malaya is his favorite album of all time. This little anecdote represents the zenith of my DJ "career."

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 14 August 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

As per that Perfect Sound Forever interview: "Fourth World is an entire week of Saturdays." I love, love, LOVE it. Love it.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 14 August 2004 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

And "Fourth World means: get yourself a world vocabulary; use it with subtlety and a keen sense of surprise; follow pleasure; trust your intuition (after you're sure you know what that is)."

I want to speak in parentheses...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 14 August 2004 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
After listening more attentively to this album (Fourth World. . .) than I usually do, I decided that his horn reminds me of a train horn more than anything else.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 30 August 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't mean that as a criticism, though I guess it sounds a little funny to say.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 30 August 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
New one: Jon Hassell Maarifa Street/Magic Realism 2 (City Hall).

RS, Friday, 13 May 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

wire review made it sound like it's a compilation of live recordings, heavily recomposed in the studio. so, buying it on sight. have you heard it?

it sounds like a modern update of The Surgeon of the Nightsky Restores Dead Things By the Power of Sound (which did the same thing to live versions of things from the 1980-1983 fourth world trilogy).

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

have you heard it?

No, no, I just saw it announced, without any details.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 13 May 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.maarifastreet.com/

great site. no sound samples though.

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 13 May 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

it sounds like a modern update of The Surgeon of the Nightsky Restores Dead Things By the Power of Sound (which did the same thing to live versions of things from the 1980-1983 fourth world trilogy).

Whaaa??!?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 14 May 2005 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, check out Surgeon, it's got a great live version of "Charm"

ok I bought Maarifa Street last night -- it's great. Fuzzy, liquid, and weird again. All the sharp techno edges and slickness of City & Dressing For Pleasure have been dropped, everything's muted and gauzy and mysterious again, although the tracks are still a lot more straightforward than the original trilogy; the rhythmic backing is less alienating & weird, in support for the lead trumpet, but it fits, it works

co-produced by Peter Freeman, who also played bass & laptop in the original concerts. the rhythms are slow & dubby, especially the bass lines; One track samples a dub filtersweep hit from Pole's CD1 for the downbeat (it's such a generic 'dub' sound that I wouldn't have noticed if not for the liner notes).

the album packaging is incredible, a huge sprawling tree filled with dozens of people. when you look very closely, it dawns on you that it's a sprawling multi-racial orgy. it's by Mati Klarwein, same guy who did Earthquake Island & Bitches Brew.

fits the music perfectly, this is an unusually erotically charged album even for Hassell, feels almost awkward listening to this by myself. it's all about the trumpet playing here, and no one sounds like Hassell, I love this record...

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 14 May 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I must say, I've owned "Fourth World Music Vol 1" for years and after many, many tries found it uncompelling (I'm a fan of lots of Eno ambient stuff; I'd rather listen to the "Apollo" soundtrack)

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 14 May 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Milton Parker OTM. Maarifa Street gives me chills in the same way Possible Musics, Dream Theory In Malaya and Aka-Darbari-Java did.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 14 May 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, check out Surgeon, it's got a great live version of "Charm"

I have it -- I just don't think I ever noticed that. That's a fantastic description of the record, btw.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 15 May 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

well they've definitely been made into new pieces, but you can hear some of the same tapes & sounds, and "Brussels" is definitely the new band doing a version of "Charm"

I'd forgotten Richard Horowitz was on Surgeon... have you heard Horowitz & Sussan Deihim's Azax Attra : Desert Equations? that is one classic record, definitely related to the fourth world series...

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Eros in Arabia when it came out (shades of things to come?) but I haven't heard it recently.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I still have one track on an unlistenable 2 hour Maxell tape from 25 years ago or something like that.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard any of his solo stuff before Azax Attra but I'd sure like to

just found this interview online:

RH: I met Paul thanks to Brion Gysin...  I had been working on my music in between Paris and Morocco since 1969 when I received my first infusion of magnetic ecstatic blood thunder and I knew I was on to something...

http://www.richardhorowitz.com/press2.shtml

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll def. check "Brussels" out again. I haven't heard Azax..., but I'll check it out. Maarifa Street, too...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Azax is primitive electronics & drum machines mixed with Persian instruments and Deihim's incredible singing. She does persian traditionals flawlessly but also turns into extended technique pyrotechnics and it is wild, her control over her high register is amazing & matches the abstract electronics perfectly.

wow, she sings on Eros as well, RS, let me know if you want to trade (all these things are way out of print)

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

milton, all I have is one track and a bad copy of it at that, so nothing to offer.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 15 May 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

just as well -- turns out it is in print, at amazon even -- I forgot Crammed reissued most of their best stuff a few years back. it's nice to see Crammed doing well with weird stuff like Konono no. 1 again... nothing against Bebel Gilberto or nothin'

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009LI7U/qid%3D1116131185/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-2848508-8628646

milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 15 May 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm, even some oud (on Maarifa) and what sounds like Arabic vocal samples of some sort. I haven't bought it, but there seem to be some complete tracks to lilsten to here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4651149.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 23 May 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

JESS HARVELL IS CLASSIC

xxx, Monday, 23 May 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you write that in every thread randomly?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 23 May 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon Hassell is an anagram for Jess Harvell.

RS, Monday, 23 May 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, kinda...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 23 May 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

If you borrow some letters from "anagram" and squint.

RS, Monday, 23 May 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I love it when Jess works with Burkina Faso percussionists and 808 State!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 May 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Finally re-listened to "Brussels" -- "Charm" it is. Great record, that...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
I like Maarifa Street. I find the rhythm track kind of slack and boring (well the bass is okay I guess), but not in a way that gets in the way. It's mostly about Hassell's trumpet (treatments and all). I'd like to hear more of Dhafer Youssef's oud and less of his singing. But still, the overall effect is good.

I don't like that tree painting on the package. If it's meant to be celebratory of life energy and sexuality and so forth, for me it just comes across as grotesque (and something about the stylized figures turns me off too). A piece of the 60s better left in that era.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 6 August 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

agreeing with you pretty much. the rhythm tracks are pretty Ableton Live damaged, the filters & ping-pong delay are painfully distinctive (it's painful when you can recognize software by the sound of its delay). Freeman was obviously playing bass while piloting the laptop so the rhythms are mainly just chopped loops... so some of the intros are a little routine but once Hassell starts playing it don't matter none

after the first two weeks with Maarifa I just went back through the catalog and listened to the first five albums like crazy... I hear rumors that Dream Theory is getting reissued. hope so.

weird that Eno, Budd and Hassell all have new albums out within months of each other. Budd & Guthrie's Mysterious Skin is particularly good.

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 6 August 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
I'm hearing all sorts of little tapping sounds, and that sort of thing, on Maarifa Street, that I don't remember noticing before. It may be my new stereo, or it may just be that I was never positioned in the right place to notice this before.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hassell is on the new Ry Cooder record My Name Is Buddy. Along with the contributions of Jacky Terrasson and Jim Keltner, his trumpet makes the record, I think. Good.

whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 26 April 2007 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

In case anyone missed it: Jon Hassell triple-feature in Arthur

jaybabcock, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Jacky Terrason and Hassell together on Fascinoma. It's hard for me to get interested in Ry Cooder, but that helps a little.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Some of my favourite Hassell - and I must confess he is one of my favourite players - is on Sylvian's Brilliant Trees.

Check out his playing on Stina Nordemstam's album she closed her eyes.

If you like his playing, you may also like Arve Henriksen.

pauncy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

the new one

total winning streak, same mood as 'Maarifa Street' but even fuzzier & spaced out. and live percussion this time, not hearing loops, it's all gauze

he also put up a linked autobiography on his website which is very readable. strewn with polaroids of his muses.

Milton Parker, Monday, 13 April 2009 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

That sounds promising. I've been appreciating Fascinoma a little more, recently.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Thursday, 16 April 2009 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

So, so glad I got to see him play live.

WmC, Thursday, 16 April 2009 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

i went down to see him in london a couple of years ago and was super disappointed. he was on fine form but the other two guys he was playing with were lameorama.

i couldn't get out quickly enough and as the lights came up i made a swift exit and stood on someone's toe. i turned round to apologise and it was brian eno. oops!

stirmonster, Thursday, 16 April 2009 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

And that's why you should never go see Jon Hassel in London, you might step on Brian Eno's toes.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Thursday, 16 April 2009 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

(Twenty-five years or so of listening to his music and I still have not learned how to spell his last name.)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 17 April 2009 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

living with it this week, new album is a lot more traditional & upfront. a lot more recognizable. less mysterious but that doesn't stop it from being beautiful. whereas late 70's / early 80's Hassell is too exotic and mutant to recognize as anything, you just fall into them with no compass, but this telegraphs itself a bit more directly.

I need to hear Fascinoma, that was clearly a reset for him. there's a track on here that quotes Ellington's 'Caravan', a quote that familiar should be too bald to work but here it doesn't sound like a reference, it just sounds perfect

Milton Parker, Friday, 17 April 2009 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

You've never heard Fascinoma at all, or just not lately? I guess you know he coves "Caravan" on Fascinoma (one of my favorite tracks on that album). My favorite part of that album is probably still Jacky Terrasson 's piano playing, but I've come back to appreciating Hassell's playing on it more.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 17 April 2009 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

(I don't mean to act so shocked that you might not have heard Fascinoma, but you seem to have heard everything lse b him.)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 17 April 2009 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

(Can't see the end of the line when I type, incidentally. I think that makes me nervous and I start making misakes.)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 17 April 2009 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

(Exactly.)

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 17 April 2009 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

It's the only one I haven't heard. When it came out, after City & Dressing For Pleasure I just wasn't as excited about a new Hassell record. Definitely going to pick it up next time I see it.

Milton Parker, Friday, 17 April 2009 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

the latest one is a pretty incredible how-much-can-we-strip-away experiment - kind of like a d'n'b record without any rhythm track at some points. 2nd song is like watching blood coagulate. really something else.

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 3 July 2009 13:33 (sixteen years ago)

this prompted me to give last night... another listen. still fantastic. and the dnb w/o any rhythm track is pretty much spot-on for the more dubby, less fusiony material. but sloooooowed down.

love this album.

original bgm, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 13:50 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

the new one is indeed sick

omar little, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

you know which one's good? Sulla Strada, music for a 1982 Italian dance production. I got it when it finally came out in 98, but it felt peripheral at the time, a lot of the fragments are simple looped textures & resampled tracks from Fourth World Vol. 1 & 2, but coming back to it this month, that is precisely why it is so great. a lot more overt in its use of directly appropriative sampling (both of ethno-folk music & self-remixing) than on any other record of his, except Aka Darbari Java (which is the one of his I've been playing most this year)

Milton Parker, Monday, 21 December 2009 02:43 (sixteen years ago)

The Washington Post's pop music critic Chris Richards put this in as his tenth fave cd of the year---he described it this way : With his 15th studio album, the esteemed jazz trumpeter evaporated Miles Davis’ cosmic slop into a resplendent sonic mist.

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 December 2009 03:00 (sixteen years ago)

I'm talking about the 2009 one “Last Night the Moon Came Dropping Its Clothes in the Street”

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 December 2009 03:00 (sixteen years ago)

Actually I think he's just playing with the same sonic mist as In A Silent Way, but that's one of my favourite kinds of weather so I love it.

Tim F, Monday, 21 December 2009 03:25 (sixteen years ago)

I like the new one. It is very distilled.

In the context of this intrepidly experimental environment, Hassell would come to a concept that would affect everything to come. "So I started making little things with tapes and collages," Hassell describes. "I remember one of the first things I ever did was to take a big thick chord sung by the Hi-Lo's, and kind of slice up that chord—we're talking splicing tape here—and making a cubist mash-up of the chord. Call it early sampling, when you're basically just recording a piece of something and with tape manipulation you're playing around [with it].

"So I go off to Europe, where I studied with Stockhausen for a couple of years," Hassell continues. "My wife was a pianist and she falls into that scene of playing Stockhausen at recitals and things like that. In the meantime, someone brings over The Beatles and says, 'Hey, listen to this, this is cool.' One of the scores I did was to take a Schoenberg piece and chop it up and have these little electronic devices—basically mixes that had a little keyboard on it so that the players were playing this sample of altered strings as softly as they could (you couldn't hear them on stage without amplification), so every time somebody plays the keyboard or hits one of the little nodes on the keyboard, then suddenly what they were playing would come to the fore.

"Lamonte Young and I did a performance in Rome and I heard [Indian vocal master Pandit] Pran Nath warming up. He was also doing a concert in the series there. I was warming up, I was playing these patterns; I had been sort of experimenting with a wah-wah pedal and all that, à la Miles from that period [early '70s]. And I was playing these patterns and Pran Nath heard me warming up; and so I heard him and he heard me and he took these patterns and started spinning them off. And I thought, 'Wow! That's cool.' So then I started studying. Raga was just raga to me. It was music from another place and I had no idea of how it was formed and shaped and what the ethos of it was. So then I started studying. I started studying with the trumpet, first singing and then trying to apply it to trumpet. Basically I had to pull away and kind of unlearn everything and start from there."

best career overview interview / article on Hassell I've ever read! his 60's background before getting to new york, the stuff on page 3, hadn't read any description of that in any depth at all before

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=32743&pg=1

Milton Parker, Monday, 21 December 2009 03:32 (sixteen years ago)

"There was a lot of last-minute touching up," Hassell admits. "And then I threw out the North line that we had glommed on all these things. I had had this big idea about having that—I had made these sort of mega-sessions in Pro Tools with like a hundred tracks and the idea was to like make these wild mixes, like montage. It looked like wild mixes in which there would have been even more than one motif drifting between pieces, which is kind of a grand idea. But eventually only a very small part of that actually wound up on the record.

hope he gets to make this kind of record next time. interesting to hear about Eicher's involvement on the new record from the first sessions, it's so odd how he ends up collaboratively moderating the mood on almost everything on ECM. also interesting to read that Power Spot was one of the rare ECM records that the artist finished on his own clock before bringing it to the label

Milton Parker, Monday, 21 December 2009 04:38 (sixteen years ago)

I wanted to like the new one, but I found the bass really really annoying for some reason. It's been too long since I've listened to have much of a sense of why at this point, if I ever did. Basically, his rhythms still sound corny to me lately.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 21 December 2009 04:51 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

FWIW, I was DJing at a Matmos gig in Cleveland and dropped "Datu Bintung At Jelong" (as you do), and Matmos' MC Schmidt came racing to the decks to declare that Dream Theory In Malaya is his favorite album of all time. This little anecdote represents the zenith of my DJ "career."

Listening to Dream Theory right now. "Datu Bintung At Jelong"'s AMS/Eventide pitch shifter loop is like ambient crack. "Malay" sounds like the percussionist is performing in a lake. Less background than Possible Musics Vol. 1 and more esoteric in places but a great album.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 24 July 2011 05:22 (fourteen years ago)

definitely better than most music

Milton Parker, Sunday, 24 July 2011 09:03 (fourteen years ago)

Reading an interview in Electronic Musician from a few years ago w him and he starts saying how so many of his compositions come out of other things he's done and then he says "Charm" is based off of the coda to the title track of Earthquake Island. I've had that record sitting in my iTunes library for years and just listened to it for the first time. And you don't have to wait for the coda to hear the string synth playing the part -- it's as plain as day from the opening note.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 25 July 2011 05:18 (fourteen years ago)

Fourth World is one of my favorite records ever, something I listen to once a week. I own the entire Hassell catalogue and the only weak ones are Sulla Strada, which is a rehash of earlier stuff and just too harsh to my ears, and Flash of the Spirit. the early ones, Vernal Equinox and Earthquake Island, are superior world-jazz records. I have some of this live Bluescreen stuff and think it's amazing. Dressing for Pleasure is more conventional and very fine. As he went on, he seemed to have referenced Miles Davis' electric stuff more, and while I prefer Miles to Jon Hassell--I prefer Miles' electric music to almost any other music I know--I think Hassell really did the instrumental thing way better than Eno, seems to have more content. Maarifa Street is a very good record from his "later" period and I prefer it to Fascinoma. There's also a cool Sub Rosa thing from '87, Myths 3. La Nouvelle Serenite, that has a great Hassell piece along with stuff by Harold Budd and Gavin Bryars. I find his Ry Cooder/Ronu Majumdar collab Hollow Bamboo to be, well, kinda hollow bamboozle. Dream Theory in Malaya has some nice stuff but some of the repetitions seem annoying to me. In the Eno doc Man Who Fell to Earth, Hassell gives the impression that Eno kinda stole his thunder, and I believe I read something to that effect in this Eno bio I read recently.

ebbjunior, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

anyone heard this: http://www.discogs.com/Punkt-2-Featuring-Sidsel-Endresen-Jon-Hassell-Live-Remixes-Vol-1/release/2088246

not mentioned on hassell's web discography. saw it in the stores, hesitated, still curious

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

No but just realized Jan Bang is his live samplist -- I have his solo record on Samadhi Sound but haven't heard it yet.

Listening to Possible Musics now -- realize I've always had a bit of a confused relationship with it. For me, the biggest issue I have with it is that it's sequenced a bit funny -- as obviously groundbreaking as it is (and I've seen those quotes too -- when you compare it to his first two albums, I feel like Hassell maybe doesn't give Eno enough credit), "Chemistry" is a bit of a sleeper as an opener. For me, a lot of what it does rhythmically and texturally feels a little more deeply explored up thru Flash of the Spirit.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

I made the dreadful music of owning that first David Sylvian record before Possible Musics.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

Well, that's only a dreadful mistake of you didn't like it. I love Words w the Shaman. The biggest difference is that it feels distinctly more teleological than most of Hassell's own stuff. Which isn't a bad thing.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:36 (fourteen years ago)

It's such a concerted carbon copy of PM that it's tainted PM for me.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

Yes and no. I mean, yes, it's got Hassell's trumpet, atmospherics and "ethnic" percussion. But compositionally it feels pretty different.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 00:50 (fourteen years ago)

If it hasn't been clear enough, over the last few weeks, I've been borderline obsessed with his 80s records. Even after listening to Hassell for years and reading dozens of Toop/Reynolds/Wire articles and interviews about his compositional process and the theory behind it, there are so many things about the way these records sound and were recorded that remain somewhat of a mystery to me as a musician.

Some of it is the compositional process itself. For instance, Hassell has said that one method he uses is playing older material and using where that goes as the basis of a new composition. But is it the band playing the song live in the studio? Or is it Hassell sampling the original track? Or both? As noted above, while the riff in "Charm" is lifted from the title track of Earthquake Island, it's not clear whether it's a sample (triggered by an AMS delay or whatever) or just Hassell playing a chord progression from his previous record.

But it's also the sounds themselves -- and this is where I think Eno and Lanois come in. Hassell's trumpet is obviously a huge part of it -- with the harmonizer and the way he plays the instrument. But many of the "treatments" are far more subtle, yet add a new dimension to the overall sound. I've heard Possible Musics literally hundreds of times but just recently noticed that a lot of the percussion parts are pitch-shifted to give the drums a bigger, more open, hollow and watery character. In other instances, sounds are processed to the point that they become virtually unrecognizable. According the credits, both Power Spot and The Surgeon of the Nightsky... have Michael Brook playing guitar on them -- but I don't much in the way of guitar, if any. And still other times, parts are processed to sound like completely different or "impossible" instruments -- made possible by the studio.

It makes me think that while there have always been comparisons drawn between Hassell's work and Miles Davis' in the 70s, one that seems particularly appropriate is their use of technology -- specifically, the way they used technology to mutate and blend the sound of the ensemble. And where in Miles' band, the technology of choice was wah-wah pedals (even Mtume used one on his percussion), for Hassell/Eno/Lanois it's running everything through Eventide pitch shifters and early samplers.

I know Eno avoids gear fetish discussions like the plague and understand why -- but I'd be fascinated to read a more in depth piece about the approach he took with these records.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 30 July 2011 04:45 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

And I still feel that way.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 9 November 2012 04:59 (thirteen years ago)

anyone heard this: http://www.discogs.com/Punkt-2-Featuring-Sidsel-Endresen-Jon-Hassell-Live-Remixes-Vol-1/release/2088246

not mentioned on hassell's web discography. saw it in the stores, hesitated, still curious


And yeah, it's pretty good. Hassell, Jan Bang and others doing a live remix of performances that just happened -- available here on Spotify:

http://open.spotify.com/album/5Kl0psNsQSWT5d62whDRUN

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 15 November 2012 05:02 (thirteen years ago)

I got this on cd a while ago. (Probably wouldn't have if it'd been on Spotify.) It's good though. About what you'd expect, but good.

FunkyTonk, Thursday, 15 November 2012 06:53 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

Hello.

DISC ONE - CITY: WORKS OF FICTION

Original Fictions

1. Voiceprint (Blind From The Facts)
2. Pagan
3. Mombasa
4. Tikal
5. In The City Of Red Dust
6. Rain
7. Ba-Ya D
8. Warriors
9. Out Of Adedara


DISC TWO - THE LIVING CITY

Live at Wintergarden 17 September 1989

1. Ituri
2. Alchemistry
3. Adedara Rising
4. Mashujaa
5. Paradise Now
6. Nightsky


DISC THREE - PSYCHOGEOGRAPHY

Zones Of Feeling

1. Aerial View
2. Neon Night (Rain)
3. Red Rose Empire [Bass Clef Remix]
4. Streetfaxx
5. City Spot
6. Brigantes [808 State Remix]
7. Cityism Superdub
8. Elsewhere Is A Negative Mirror [Some Truths Remix]
9. Harambe
10. Ba-Ya Dub [No UFOs Remix]
11. Freeway
12. Cuba Libre
13. Metal Fatigue [patten Remix]
14. Midnight
15. Waterfront District
16. Favela
17. Emerald City
18. Cloud-Shaped Time

Due for release in June.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 April 2014 17:55 (twelve years ago)

Oh nice, love that record!

The live material sounds interesting.

The new cover looks great but is a real departure from the original and this, the cover to the last reissue

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/r/z/rzg66k703xm0zr6x.jpg?djet1p5k

Brakhage, Friday, 18 April 2014 00:06 (twelve years ago)

well dang hotlink police

Brakhage, Friday, 18 April 2014 00:07 (twelve years ago)

RFI: can anyone suggest other recent musics with the feel of Maarifa Street and Last Night The Moon Came Dropping Its Clothes In The Street. Slow, dubby, semi-improvisatory, with heavy bass and textural electronics and organics wafting about? Most times I venture into this vicinity the result misses the mark, erring towards ambiance or freneticism.

Congratulations! And my condolences. (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 22:05 (twelve years ago)

not too recent anymore, but one of the better hassellish artists: http://www.discogs.com/Paul-Sch%C3%BCtze-Apart/release/175542

recently got Hassell's Fascinoma, which I always put off because I wasn't sure if I was interesting in hearing his 'standards' record, or hearing his horn without technology or effects. I was so wrong, this is one of his weirdest records. City is by far my least favorite Hassell album but the 2nd disc looks like it could be all right

was drawn to Michel Fahres' 'The Tubes' because of Hassell's playing on the 30 min title track but the whole album is good: http://coldbluemusic.com/pages/CB0024.html

Miguel Frasconi posted this to Soundcloud streaming-only the other day, live versions circa Possible Musics --

https://soundcloud.com/frasconimusic/sets/jon-hassell-group-1982
Live performance by the Jon Hassell Performance Group, Avignon, France, June 1982. John Hassell: trumpet; Michael Brook: processing, kalimba; J. A. Dino Dean: log drum, percussion; Miguel Frasconi: udu, glass, keyboard

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 23:11 (twelve years ago)

Harmonizer (Greg Davis and Toby Aronson) had an EP in 2011 that traversed some of Hassell's fourth world terrains:

http://www.softwarelabel.net/shop/harmonizer-world-complete/

doug watson, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 01:18 (twelve years ago)

I'll second the Paul Schutze suggestion and recommend his "New Maps Of Hell" album. Also "Bloody Thief" by Shinjuku Thief on the same label - http://www.discogs.com/Shinjuku-Thief-Bloody-Tourist/release/124161

Extreme put out a lot of Fourth World type stuff but as mentioned, it's not recent.

Rapoon sometimes remind me of Hassell but they have a fairly daunting discography.

In related news, All Saints have a Hassell remix EP coming out (featuring Patten, Mordant Music and others). I haven't had time to listen to it yet and confess to being a bit wary. Will report back

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 02:27 (twelve years ago)

wow that harmonizer ep is shameless, pretty brave fun Greg

http://jadeane.com/blog/wed-04232014-0805

Milton Parker, Thursday, 1 May 2014 05:34 (twelve years ago)

i was correct to be wary.

stirmonster, Saturday, 3 May 2014 16:03 (twelve years ago)

I'll second the Paul Schutze suggestion and recommend his "New Maps Of Hell" album.

An absolute favorite of mine, still.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 May 2014 16:49 (twelve years ago)

four weeks pass...

My review of the City reissue:

http://www.wonderingsound.com/review/jon-hassell-city-works-fiction/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 June 2014 17:35 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

new 3 CD City reissue is pretty great. second live disc ebbs and flows along, but the third disc is definitely not the potpourri mess I was expecting -- it's a full 80 minutes but it's been structured beautifully as an album, even the four remixes fit in well.

even the original album sounds better to me this time around; I got this when it came out, and simply couldn't get over hearing the same late 80's drum machine sounds I was hearing everywhere else show up on a Jon Hassell record, but I'm a little less hung up on that decades later and I'm mostly just listening to how structured and tight his playing is, peaking on something

this comes after a few months of addictively listening through Fascinoma, which somehow has become one of my favorite records of his

one of the songs on the 3rd City disc is from a late 90's promo Hassell remix city called Vertical Collection - has anyone heard it / have it? - http://www.discogs.com/Jon-Hassell-The-Vertical-Collection-sketches/release/1796065

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 17:38 (eleven years ago)

& it's not online yet but I'll just put this here for now

http://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/morning-becomes-eclectic/jon-hassell-2014-07-16

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 20:31 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKNmQaoza5E

Milton Parker, Thursday, 17 July 2014 02:36 (eleven years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8jnSHZTzs0

Milton Parker, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:01 (eleven years ago)

i had slept on "vernal equinox" initially cuz i thought the thing i liked abt jh were the weird electronic textures, but man this is magical

clouds, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:33 (eleven years ago)

ahhh that's the same gig on the reissue right?

Brakhage, Friday, 15 August 2014 16:41 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

daniel lopatin seems to have based a large bit of his aesthetic on that video

clouds, Thursday, 11 September 2014 23:36 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

Jammin' some Earthquake Island for the first time this morning. Going down pretty smooth. Yeah.

Austin, Saturday, 23 January 2016 17:08 (ten years ago)

such a great and bizarre fusion record. JH hates it apparently!

clouds, Saturday, 23 January 2016 17:16 (ten years ago)

Must be the rubberband bass; seems pretty exclusive to this album in his discography.

Austin, Saturday, 23 January 2016 17:18 (ten years ago)

[Future Miles Davis bassist and A Tribe Called Quest collaborator] Ron Carter

a very odd description of Ron Carter in that Spin article posted upthread

experience president sanders (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 23 January 2016 17:30 (ten years ago)

True on both accounts.

Austin, Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:37 (ten years ago)

no doubt but considering he's essentially the platonic ideal of a jazz bassist it was peculiar

experience president sanders (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:46 (ten years ago)

lol Spin ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Austin, Saturday, 23 January 2016 20:05 (ten years ago)

thats about it. good interview though- Hassel's a lot more, erm, earthy than my conception of hismusic would have led me to believe

experience president sanders (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 23 January 2016 20:16 (ten years ago)

Here's an audio interview from this past year : http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?exchange=270

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 23 January 2016 20:22 (ten years ago)

so classic

﷽ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 23 January 2016 21:08 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

Possible that I like Aka/Darbari/Java: Magic Realism the best. It's like he sat in Lanois' Hamilton studio with the goal of making imaginary pygmy music out of a trumpet, a sampler, a harmonizer, and a cardboard box.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:37 (ten years ago)

i've said it before -- i want to live in the imaginary world that music comes from

clouds, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 20:59 (ten years ago)

I am really slow on the uptake, never realized it was his incredible muted horns on those David Sylvian albums. Just picked up "Possible Musics" and have flipped for it. What should I sample next?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:10 (ten years ago)

The ECM discs (Power Spot from '86 and Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the Street from '09) are probably going to be the easiest to track down and both are damn good records.

Shame his back catalogue is so fragmented as far as availability. Some of it is on the good ol' Spotify, I guess.

Which reminds me, I need to fill the holes in my own collection.

Austin, Thursday, 17 March 2016 02:08 (ten years ago)

"Alchemistry," from the City live set, is a pretty neat little reworking of "Chemistry" from Possible Musics.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 20 March 2016 14:30 (ten years ago)

& it's not online yet but I'll just put this here for now

http://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/morning-becomes-eclectic/jon-hassell-2014-07-16🔗


This is a hell of an interview and in studio performance BTW (on video no less). Can't believe I didn't watch it earlier. Thanks for sharing, Milton.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 20 March 2016 17:36 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

this was a very good recommendation upthread:

There's also a cool Sub Rosa thing from '87, Myths 3. La Nouvelle Serenite, that has a great Hassell piece along with stuff by Harold Budd and Gavin Bryars.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 1 May 2016 14:40 (ten years ago)

linked from this, also good

http://www.alycesantoro.com/politics_of_sound_art.html

Milton Parker, Sunday, 1 May 2016 21:28 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

Hassell's new Ndeya imprint seems to be up and running, with digital reissues of Vernal Equinox, Earthquake Island, Sulla Strada and Maarifa Street. These have also turned up on streaming services at last. (What with ECM, YMO and now early Hassell up on Spotify/Apple Music, it's been a good few weeks for stuff I like being put out there.)
https://boomkat.com/labels/ndeya

I think Ndeya is being run as an imprint of Warp, rather like All Saints is these days? I've heard a lot of talk that there's a new album in the offing too, and I hope he cracks on with this rather than his very dubious sounding book.

bamboohouses, Friday, 8 December 2017 09:35 (eight years ago)

Also, I hope this leads to a vinyl reissue of Vernal Equinox - that record is a bit pricey for my liking these days.

bamboohouses, Friday, 8 December 2017 09:35 (eight years ago)

three months pass...

New album coming out 8th June on his new Warp imprint Ndeya:
https://jonhassell.bandcamp.com/album/listening-to-pictures-pentimento-volume-one

The preview track, Dreaming, is the one he played on the Gilles Peterson Words & Music podcast a couple of years back (in a slightly restructured form). It's, er, very dreamy. Looking forward to this.

bamboohouses, Friday, 6 April 2018 06:43 (eight years ago)

"The release of this new album also sees the launch of Jon’s own label, Ndeya (pronounced “in-day-ya”), which will be a home for new work as well as well as selected archival releases, including re-presses of classic sides and some astonishing unreleased music."

Thanks, this sounds really promising. It's also kind of awesome to see a musician launching a new label and releasing new music in his 82nd year.

doug watson, Friday, 6 April 2018 12:59 (eight years ago)

two months pass...

streaming: https://www.thewire.co.uk/audio/tracks/preview-jon-hassell-s-new-album

WilliamC, Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:15 (eight years ago)

Very excited for this new one.

Between this and the new record from Steve Tibbetts, it's a great year for aging guys who make totally unique and wonderfully soothing music.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:50 (eight years ago)

New Tibbetts is magnificent, easily one of my favorite albums of the year, and maybe his best!

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:07 (eight years ago)

oh shit!!!

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:21 (eight years ago)

Listening now. Three songs in, this is fantastic. Like the Jon Hassell album for Kompakt you never knew you needed. Incredible to me how he keeps his (very distinctive, very recognizable) sound so fresh. Sounds very much like Jon Hassell, but somehow sounds very "now," too.

End of "Picnic" sounds Necks-y. I love the Fender Rhodes! (assuming that is what it is)

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:29 (eight years ago)

Like the Jon Hassell album for Kompakt you never knew you needed.

fuckin

this train can’t take me home soon enough

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:31 (eight years ago)

haha <3 u Brad

sleeve, Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:31 (eight years ago)

this record is wonderful

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 8 June 2018 11:41 (eight years ago)

Fuuuuuuuk

A cynic might say this is just a Hassell record crossed with '94 Diskont', but against that proposition I would proffer that this is also a Hassell record crossed with '94 Diskont'.

Tim F, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:10 (eight years ago)

Heh, sold.

pomenitul, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:14 (eight years ago)

lol tim otm

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 8 June 2018 14:33 (eight years ago)

This is an amazing record. Maarifa Street and Last Night... (both of which are great) suggested he was moving gracefully towards a kind of dubby ambient jazz - but this is something else, wilder and far less smooth. Seriously heavy low end on it too.

bamboohouses, Friday, 8 June 2018 14:52 (eight years ago)

pvmic but i think this is my album of the year (it's been an extremely rich year)

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 8 June 2018 17:54 (eight years ago)

mine too honestly, haven't been blown away by anything new this instantly in a bit

(although this is my first hassell; what are the recommended starting points?)

lowercase (eric), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:03 (eight years ago)

imo you can go backwards but i loooove last night basically as much as the new one

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:05 (eight years ago)

i think most would recommend either of the fourth world records though

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:06 (eight years ago)

Fourth World, Vol. 1: Possible Musics (with Brian Eno), Power Spot and Last Night the Moon Came Dropping Its Clothes in the Street are all classic in my book.

pomenitul, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:07 (eight years ago)

I've actually never heard Dream Theory in Malaya. Time to remedy that.

pomenitul, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:09 (eight years ago)

I think Hassell's discography is so consistently brilliant and unique, pretty much any way is a good direction. Some of the availability of his catalogue is a bit spotty, unfortunately. But, it's all worthwhile. Maybe the only thing that isn't as immediately akin to the rest of his stuff is Bluescreen; but that's pretty good.

I haven't heard the new one yet, so I can't really comment on how it stands in regards to the rest of his work.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:15 (eight years ago)

Iiiii neeeeed tooooo heeeaaaarrrr thiiiiiiiiiiisssssss

William Thinkpiece Hackery (NickB), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:20 (eight years ago)

Aka/Darbari/Java is my favorite solo rec of his fwiw

sleeve, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:25 (eight years ago)

spare, evocative, kinda mesmerizing

sleeve, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:25 (eight years ago)

I've actually never heard Dream Theory in Malaya. Time to remedy that.

― pomenitul, Friday, June 8, 2018 11:09 AM (twenty-two minutes ago)

I really like that one. Weird follow-up to the original Fourth World album, but a very good record all the same.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 8 June 2018 18:36 (eight years ago)

Aka/Darbari/Java is probably my favourite as well.
and this new one is incredible. maybe the best thing i listened this year.

Nourry, Friday, 8 June 2018 18:50 (eight years ago)

thanks y'all :+)

lowercase (eric), Friday, 8 June 2018 19:27 (eight years ago)

Today is its release date so it's on Spotify now. Presumably the other streaming svcs as well.

WilliamC, Friday, 8 June 2018 19:51 (eight years ago)

Ha, pfork says 7.3.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:17 (eight years ago)

I think Hassell's discography is so consistently brilliant and unique, pretty much any way is a good direction. Some of the availability of his catalogue is a bit spotty, unfortunately. But, it's all worthwhile.

― (V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, June 8, 2018 2:15 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have everything he's ever released and I agree with this statement. Even City, which I didn't connect with at the time, sounds brilliant and ahead of its time to me now

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 8 June 2018 21:31 (eight years ago)

I think I took City: Works of Fiction for granted because it was the first album of his I got and it was hilariously easy to acquire (especially in comparison to the lengths I had to go to get some of his other records). The three disc reissue from a few years back was a great way to get to reintroduce myself to it.

I think I need to revisit the Bluescreen album. I remember it being the other one of his, besides City, that was most common in used bins. I bought it the first time, when I was just kind of exploring new things in college and it was played maybe twice. I either traded it or gave it away, don't remember. But then I reacquired it about a decade ago, right around the time Last Night the Moon Came Dropping Its Clothes in the Street came out and the majority of his back catalogue was out of print and second hand copies were rising in price. I may have listened to Bluescreen three times since then. So, yeah: it's due for a reassessment, I think.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Friday, 8 June 2018 21:44 (eight years ago)

I've never managed to fall in love with the Bluescreen album but it does contain one of my all time favourite Hassell tracks in "Blue Night (live)" which is literally and metaphorically lumped on the end of the cd. It's totally out of step with the rest of the album and more akin to something from "Power Spot", but is so, so sublime.

I've not listened to the new one enough to really formualte an opinion yet.

stirmonster, Friday, 8 June 2018 22:30 (eight years ago)

i just listened to "Listening To Pictures" again and oddly, I'd swear the track "Ndeya" samples the track "Blue Night (live)" mentioned above.

stirmonster, Friday, 8 June 2018 23:28 (eight years ago)

so happy I am home and listening to this new one, sounds great so far

sleeve, Saturday, 9 June 2018 00:16 (seven years ago)

Also, if you guys don't know it, this one is terrific:

https://www.discogs.com/Jon-Hassell-Fascinoma/master/527072

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 9 June 2018 00:17 (seven years ago)

oh my god "Picnic" - I can see where y'all are getting the Oval vibes from

sleeve, Saturday, 9 June 2018 00:22 (seven years ago)

Dream Theory in Malaya is good (especially the last 3 tracks), but the relentless fluttering of "Chor Moire" and unsettling squelchy loop on "Datu Bintung at Jelong" both make me feel like I'm about to have a panic attack.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 9 June 2018 04:38 (seven years ago)

Didn't expect *this* Jon Hassell at all. A lovely surprise.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 9 June 2018 09:58 (seven years ago)

The end of Picnic sounds like Zawinul! Marvellous.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 9 June 2018 10:01 (seven years ago)

Dream Theory in Malaya is good (especially the last 3 tracks), but the relentless fluttering of "Chor Moire" and unsettling squelchy loop on "Datu Bintung at Jelong" both make me feel like I'm about to have a panic attack.

― Hideous Lump, Saturday, June 9, 2018 12:38 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My wife has the same reaction to this record, and uses the same words ("panic attack") to describe it. She also refers to it "anxiety music" despite liking or at least being indifferent to everything else by Hassell she's heard. The only other thing that inspires such a reaction from her is Wolfgang Voigt (solo, not GAS), whose music she loathes

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 9 June 2018 13:08 (seven years ago)

What do people think of surgeon of the nightsky

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 9 June 2018 13:41 (seven years ago)

I love it

sciatica, Saturday, 9 June 2018 13:44 (seven years ago)

this thing is great! reminds me a bit of the ambient electronic jazz that Justin Walter has been putting out on Kranky

William Thinkpiece Hackery (NickB), Saturday, 9 June 2018 17:24 (seven years ago)

Received mine yesterday. Wonderful and quiet pressing except for an annoying defect at the end of side 1, a very audible ticking / scuff sound. Anyone else experience this?

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 10 June 2018 15:30 (seven years ago)

Got this in the mail today and just finished up my first listen now. Wow, what a wonderful turn in sound from Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the Street. That was essentially beatless, where this new one definitely has a rhythmic base, but not quite as defined as Maarifa Street. First impression is that it strikes a perfect balance between the funky backbeats of Maarifa Street and the impressionistic wash of Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the Street. Fantastic.

(V) (°,,,,°) (V) (Austin), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 04:02 (seven years ago)

I like this but the drum sounds on "Pastorale Vassant" sound distractingly dated where everything else sounds unattached to any time.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 10:08 (seven years ago)

They don't bother me, but I see what you mean. They're mixed pretty low though, and used subtly throughout, so it's not like you're listening to "Come To Daddy" or something

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:10 (seven years ago)

It's a mid-90s Wire Magazine wet dream ;-)

I really like it, first four tracks especially so far. Breezes by at <37 minutes.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 12:55 (seven years ago)

For those that hoped for more in the *Last Night the Moon Came Dropping Its Clothes* vein, some of that itch may be scratched by Sly & Robbie Meet Nils Petter Molvær feat. Eivind Aarset and Vladislav Delay - *Nordub* (2018).

Chaos reigns... in my pants (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)

Caveat, Nordub is really is more of an African Head Charge type album than Fourth World (though I think it would be great at -30% tempo). NP Molvær's past work is closest to a Hassell protege I'm aware of.

Chaos reigns... in my pants (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 17:11 (seven years ago)

This Sly and Robbie is fantastic - thanks for the heads up. Have added to the Sly & Robbie thread.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 21 June 2018 11:31 (seven years ago)

On my first listen, this is wonderful.
Lovely liner notes from Hassell himself. Good to read this: "Finally, I'm pleased to note that this record also marks a valued moment of reconnection with my longtime friend, Brian Eno."

willem, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 06:36 (seven years ago)

What is the connection to Eno here?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 28 June 2018 02:55 (seven years ago)

No actual/musical connection with this particular album. There's some background on the reconnection in this candid interview with Billboard (and a not so subtle diss on David Byrne :)

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8463129/jon-hassell-interview

But anyway, my lingering scars of being left off any mention of My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, that was the clearest evidence that the backroom boys – Brian's managers and David's managers of the time – [were like] "Hold on here, that guy could come after you with a big lawsuit." And I was still in the ivory tower frame of mind and didn't have a structure there. If I had been Ry Cooder and had a management structure, that would have been my harpoon to lance this appropriation. So I wrote a 50-page letter a couple years ago when I was way down on my luck, and I made a big reconnection with Brian, and I would say we're brothers now. And that was a rough patch for me. But that's ironed itself out. I've had zero contact with David, but he's not exactly in the same intellectual class with Brian, so that's not surprising.

willem, Friday, 29 June 2018 09:35 (seven years ago)

Yikes

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:09 (seven years ago)

what did he contribute to the record? serious question, I never knew he was involved. I guess I could look up the chapter in Rip It Up but I'm at work.

sleeve, Friday, 29 June 2018 14:12 (seven years ago)

five months pass...

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq-HZ5IHnAm/

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 23:31 (seven years ago)

four weeks pass...

what did he contribute to the record? serious question, I never knew he was involved. I guess I could look up the chapter in Rip It Up but I'm at work.

According to Hassell, Bush of Ghosts was initially conceived as a trio project and ostensibly a Fourth World effort. But something happened with Hassell’s schedule and by the time he returned to the project realized he’d been nudged out and thought the record was effectively his concept with funk beats. What I don’t totally get is that while Hassell may have had a falling out with Byrne, Eno produced and mixed his records all the way through the 1980s – only Aka/Dabari/Java doesn’t have any Eno involvement at all so I’m not really sure whether they had another falling out or what.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 15:16 (seven years ago)

six months pass...

jon hassell fucking RULES.

i picked up a nice copy of Power Spot yesterday and it has blown my mind. it's up there with his very best work, if not above it. produced by eno/lanois, recorded in 83 but not really released until 86 (i think)? many of the songs are hypnotic in a way that reminds me of some songs on the francis bebey Psychedelic Sanza 1982-1984 comp.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:36 (six years ago)

10 out of 10. five stars. "A Masterpiece", an early Oscar Pick, 6 bags of popcorn, 6 sodas.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:39 (six years ago)

I give Jon Has.. Jona Hassle.. Jon Has Well's 'Power Spot' five bags of popcorn and an extra bag of popcorn.

(sorry. great album I did not know yet, but digging it thanks to you)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 21:37 (six years ago)

Power Spot is indeed very mighty — and quite possibly his most representative album. Like, if you just want one slab of vinyl to represent "What is Jon Hassell?", Power Spot is it.

My overall favorite is still his other ECM album from a few years back; Last Night the Moon Came Dropping its Clothes in the Street.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 22:33 (six years ago)

if you just want one slab of vinyl to represent "What is Jon Hassell?", Power Spot is it.


Just by coincidence, yesterday I was daydreaming about this very question, and how I would be unable to answer! I was imagining the goofy feeling of recommending Jon Hassell to someone and then being unable to give them a good starting point. I think I imagined just suggesting they start with Possible Musics so they could go ahead and check out his most well known album and save even better stuff for later. But Power Moves is probably an even better place to start.

Glad you like it LBI! My appreciation for Hassell’s music grows every time I listen

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 22:40 (six years ago)

you guys checked this out, it rules: https://soundcloud.com/frasconimusic/sets/jon-hassell-group-1982

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 22:42 (six years ago)

I think what marks out Power Spot is that it is a lot tighter and more explicitly rhythmically structured than the albums that precede it (Possible Musics, Dream Theory in Malaya etc.) but still very much exemplifies the ideas he was pursuing on those albums - so if you wanted an album that not only explained Hassell but also his influence on a lot of subsequent music it fulfills that role very handily.

I used to put "Wing Melodies" on a lot of mix-cds alongside stuff like Ricardo Villalobos and O'Rang and Laika and it fit very nicely in that context.

Tim F, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 22:44 (six years ago)

I like Last Night the Moon most too. Probably because it has a strong dub influence.

полезный идиот (Sanpaku), Friday, 19 July 2019 17:43 (six years ago)

Of the 3-4 I've heard (including Power Spot, which I like), Listening to Pictures is my favourite. Here's to hoping he'll release another one soon.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 17:46 (six years ago)

eight months pass...

Looks like the sequel will be coming out this summer, called Seeing Through Sound.

So thriled about it — Listening to Pictures is one of my favorite records of all time, and a favorite Hassell record.

(He mentions it at the end of this recent Aquarium Drunkard interview: https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2020/03/05/jon-hassell-the-aquarium-drunkard-interview/)

nikola, Sunday, 29 March 2020 17:54 (six years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_knIhkDfW6/?igshid=1qrr5tq9eqyz7

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:48 (six years ago)

From his website:

Jon Hassell Needs Your Help

Jon Hassell is one of the most influential composers of the last 50 years. His invention of what he called ‘4th World Music’ opened the way for a fresh look at, and deeper respect for, the music of other cultures around the world. His recordings have had a big impact on other musicians, and, through them, have changed musical tastes dramatically. His unique intellectual contribution is also noteworthy: he is a tireless and articulate theorist as well as a great musician.

Jon is going through hard times now. I feel that many of us owe him a debt of gratitude, so perhaps making a contribution to this fund is a way we can thank him.

Brian Eno
London, April 28, 2020


One of the giants of modern music, trumpeter, and composer Jon Hassell has been a true innovator for decades and his influence has been incalculable. Now, at 83, because of long-term health issues, Jon is in a dire position and needs financial assistance to ensure a safe and sustainable living situation going forward. As Jon is in the highest risk group for COVID-19, the urgency of his condition has become even more acute in recent weeks.

To address his pressing needs, we--a group of Jon's family, friends, and collaborators--are reaching out to his audience and fan base around the world to ask for help. If you are a fan of Jon's music, we would greatly appreciate any contribution you can make at this extremely challenging moment. Thank you.

-De Fracia Evans, Uti Cleveland, Taska Cleveland, Rick Cox, Peter Freeman, Dan Schwartz, Robert Walsh, and Luke Schwartz


https://www.gofundme.com/f/jon-hassell-fund

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 3 May 2020 06:17 (six years ago)

‘Murica.

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:23 (six years ago)

one month passes...

New album Seeing Through Sound is out 24th July. Pre-orders are up now, and there's a single (Fearless) out in all the usual places...

bamboohouses, Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:52 (five years ago)

That's awesome news, doubly so in light of his recent financial troubles and the fact that he's 83!

pomenitul, Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:56 (five years ago)

one month passes...

https://jonhassell.bandcamp.com/album/seeing-through-sound-pentimento-volume-two

new album is very nice

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 08:05 (five years ago)

Compared to vol. 1, this one felt a little rushed to me, its pieces too blocky to allow for immersion. I need to spend more time with it.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:07 (five years ago)

it was recorded during the same sessions as vol 1 fwiw!

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:19 (five years ago)

different but not lesser imo

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 13:20 (five years ago)

the "pentimento" in the title that describes scraping paint off to see what an artist originally painted is how he approached this one in the studio apparently, but scraping bits of sound off, which might be what is giving you an impression of rushed?

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:34 (five years ago)

I assume he used the same technique on vol. 1, where it worked wonders, but vol. 2 strikes me as more amateurish for some reason (wouldn't go so far as to call it Monkey Christ-ish, though!). I'll give it another spin later today.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:38 (five years ago)

I would listen to Monkey Christ - the album!

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 17:48 (five years ago)

I can't stop listening to the new album, I think it's wonderful. Think I might prefer it to Volume 1. Fearless, Moons of Titan and Delicado are up there with his greatest works IMO. I love the smokey, late-night textures dissolved in layer upon layer of electronic processing.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 10:36 (five years ago)

I have no idea whether it is better or worse than vol 1 yet but it is certainly not a disappointment.

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:19 (five years ago)

have any of you ever listened to Motohiko Hamase? 80s minimalist/ambient composer, new to me, who was reissued by WRWTFWW earlier this year. very big jon hassell RIYL. i'm still getting a handle on his music, but Anecdote (a live 1987 recording) is one that i can recommend for people on this thread:

https://wrwtfww.com/album/anecdote

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:12 (five years ago)

(#Notes of Forestry and Technodrome are the other two being reissued - if anyone has thoughts about them, or knows anything about Motohiko Hamase, i'd love to hear it!)

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:14 (five years ago)

New one is pretty different from Vol.1 at first listen but gorgeous all the same!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:35 (five years ago)

finally getting to this. strikes me as a lot different from listening to pictures on first impression. much more doodley and. . . idk, jammy? is that an okay word to apply to this music? in any case, i'll need to sit with it a bit more, but it's new jon hassell music, so i'm happy.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:42 (five years ago)

Notes of Forestry is super good as are Reminiscence and Intaglio. These latter two were re-recorded in 2018 and are excellent but I think the original versions eclipse the remade ones. I'm just getting to know Technodrome. It's slightly indebted to house / techno records of that era but actually is perhaps the most Hassell-esque of them all imo.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:10 (five years ago)

good lord, i listened to technodrome and notes of forestry back-to-back, and i am ruined. what a night

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 30 July 2020 06:51 (five years ago)

Listening to this now. FWIW, Andy Beta's (nice) review on Pitchfork says this:

Back in April, Brian Eno started a GoFundMe for Hassell, who as a cancer survivor is at high risk of severe COVID-19 infection. Hassell is now out of intensive care, but he’s still well short of his fundraising goal, and one wonders how much more music lies ahead for the octogenarian artist.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/jon-hassell-seeing-through-sound-pentimento-volume-two/

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:29 (five years ago)

Just to say that I think that the new album Seeing Through Sound - Pentimento Volume Two is absolutely brilliant. To me it sounds as if Brian Eno's organic ambient masterpiece On Land had been crossed with Nils Peter Molvaer's groundbreaking electric jazz album Khmer.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 14:24 (five years ago)

it's the first time a jon hassell album has done anything for me. it has not a lot to do with the first part. in-between a quantum leap has happened. there are these objets trouvès here and there (eg in rejkjavik). those haunting parts like in cool down coda. it's like another green world without the tunes. which obviously is better as it does not use itself up. my album of the year for the time being.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:48 (five years ago)

have any of you ever listened to Motohiko Hamase? 80s minimalist/ambient composer, new to me, who was reissued by WRWTFWW earlier this year. very big jon hassell RIYL. i'm still getting a handle on his music, but Anecdote (a live 1987 recording) is one that i can recommend for people on this thread:

https://wrwtfww.com/album/anecdote

― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:12 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

(#Notes of Forestry and Technodrome are the other two being reissued - if anyone has thoughts about them, or knows anything about Motohiko Hamase, i'd love to hear it!)

― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:14 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

New one is pretty different from Vol.1 at first listen but gorgeous all the same!

― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

finally getting to this. strikes me as a lot different from listening to pictures on first impression. much more doodley and. . . idk, jammy? is that an okay word to apply to this music? in any case, i'll need to sit with it a bit more, but it's new jon hassell music, so i'm happy.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:42 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Notes of Forestry is super good as are Reminiscence and Intaglio. These latter two were re-recorded in 2018 and are excellent but I think the original versions eclipse the remade ones. I'm just getting to know Technodrome. It's slightly indebted to house / techno records of that era but actually is perhaps the most Hassell-esque of them all imo.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, July 29, 2020 6:10 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

good lord, i listened to technodrome and notes of forestry back-to-back, and i am ruined. what a night

― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, July 30, 2020 2:51 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

I have yet to hear Notes of Forestry or Technodrome but Anecdote is beautiful. Favorite recent discovery.

Trying to support my local so I ordered Seeing Through Sound from them but there's no telling when it will arrive

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 17:49 (five years ago)

i didn't get around to listening to Seeing Through Sound until after my Motohiko Hamase binge. and when i finally did, it ruined me as well. these musicians are ruining me in the best way. the last track on Seeing Through Sound, "Timeless", is just incredible.

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 17:53 (five years ago)

this new one is superb, it reminds me of VLadislav Delay in places!

sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:03 (five years ago)

*googles furiously*

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:04 (five years ago)

sorry:
https://jonhassell.bandcamp.com/album/seeing-through-sound-pentimento-volume-two

sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:24 (five years ago)

the delay comparison makes sense to me. they both seem to form some esoteric nocturnal logic of their own, and i enjoy dozing off to them both.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:31 (five years ago)

whistleblower is the album i have in mind in particular

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:32 (five years ago)

some of the tracks on this new one have that bubbling, percolating feel that I associate with classic Vladislav recs

sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:33 (five years ago)

"Timeless" in particular

sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 18:33 (five years ago)

xposts with sleeve

oh, i meant googling Vladislav! i know nothing about him, but i will definitely be checking them out too (heeding whispering karl's whistleblower recommendation!)

this thread rules imo

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 19:23 (five years ago)

WHAT

OK you gotta go listen to Multila ASAP

sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 19:24 (five years ago)

Just checking Vol. 2 out right now for the first time, and hard agree re: V. Delay, esp on "Timeless"

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:43 (five years ago)

(Hey Sleeve, I rushed into commenting without seeing you type the same)

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:44 (five years ago)

Those long-tone strings combined with the stuttered choppy Sasu-y/Delay textures on that track are sounding really sweet to me, and nicely distinct in terms of Hassell himself seemingly laying out/no harmonized trumpet

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:49 (five years ago)

Agreed on the Delay comparison - this album reminds me in part of ‘Nordub’, his recent collaboration with Nils Petter Molvaer and Sly & Robbie.

Tim F, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:07 (five years ago)

His WHAT

lukas, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:12 (five years ago)

oh yeah, Nordub is amazing

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:59 (five years ago)

thread delivers!

sleeve, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 22:18 (five years ago)

so, hey yeah: jammed seeing through sound again this morning and it does get better with every play. i can't say which of the more recent ones i prefer at this point. both are stellar in their own respective ways.

but to the present topic, i was curious and decided to check the nordub album and mist concur: this is also very good.

so, yeah:

thread delivers!

― sleeve, Tuesday, August 11, 2020 3:18 PM

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 17 August 2020 16:11 (five years ago)

i love when the thread delivers

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 17 August 2020 16:15 (five years ago)

loving nordub as well! and looks like vladislav delay released another album with sly + robbie today!

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 21 August 2020 15:49 (five years ago)

kings

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 21 August 2020 16:24 (five years ago)

loving nordub as well! and looks like vladislav delay released another album with sly + robbie today!

― diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, August 21, 2020 8:49 AM

dude what

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 21 August 2020 17:45 (five years ago)

hahaha

lukas, Friday, 21 August 2020 17:45 (five years ago)

_thread delivers_

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Friday, 21 August 2020 17:56 (five years ago)

info

spotify

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 21 August 2020 18:14 (five years ago)

ten months pass...

Per a statement from his family, Hassell passed this morning.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:07 (four years ago)

Oh no. :(((

RIP

I was naïvely looking forward to his next album – it didn't even occur to me that Seeing Through Sound could be the last.

pomenitul, Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:20 (four years ago)

damn RIP

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:48 (four years ago)

RIP

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:50 (four years ago)

Oh shit no way

disraeli grinds my gears (NickB), Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:52 (four years ago)

that’s a big one - RIP to a total legend

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 26 June 2021 23:58 (four years ago)

RIP, boo, loved those last few

sleeve, Sunday, 27 June 2021 00:02 (four years ago)

Rest In Peace. He was on top to the very last, just a legend

Karl Malone, Sunday, 27 June 2021 03:35 (four years ago)

rip. great last album

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 27 June 2021 03:40 (four years ago)

The one before that, too! And I haven’t even listened to the one before that, yet. But still clearly on top of his game and exploring new territory to the very end. That’s all I could hope for anyone

Karl Malone, Sunday, 27 June 2021 03:47 (four years ago)

no!!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 June 2021 03:52 (four years ago)

This was the statement, BTW:

PRESS STATEMENT from Jon Hassell's Family
JULY 26, 2021
Family Statement:
Our beloved Jon M. Hassell - iconic trumpet player, author, and composer - has passed away at the age of 84 years on June 26th 2021. After a little more than a year of fighting through health complications, Jon died peacefully in the early morning hours of natural causes. His final days were surrounded by family and loved ones who celebrated with him the lifetime of contributions he gave to this world– personally and professionally. He cherished life and leaving this world was a struggle as there was much more he wished to share in music, philosophy, and writing.
It was his great joy to be able to compose and produce music until the end. We thank all those who contributed to ensuring that he was able to continue expressing his ideas through his final days and maintain a quality end of life.
Jon Hassell was able to leave behind many gifts. We are excited and committed to sharing those ongoing with his fans across time and support his enduring legacy. All donations to Jon Hassell’s GoFundMe will allow the tremendous personal archive of his music, much unreleased, to be preserved and shared with the world for years to come. We also hope to provide philanthropic gifts of scholarship and contributions to issues close to Jon’s heart, like supporting the working rights of musicians.
As Jon is now free of a constricting body, he is liberated to be in his musical soul and will continue to play in the Fourth World. We hope you find solace in his words and dreams for this earthly place he now leaves behind. We hold him, and you, in this loss and grief.
FOURTH WORLD IS
A KIND OF PHILOSOPHICAL GUIDELINE, A CREATIVE POSTURE, DIRECTED TOWARDS THE CONDITIONS CREATED BY THE INTERSECTION OF TECHNOLOGY WITH INDIGINOUS MUSIC AND CULTURE.
THE UNDERLYING GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A KIND OF CREATIVE MIDWIFERY TO THE INEVITABLE MERGING OF CULTURES WHILE PROVIDING AN ANTIDOTE TO A GLOBAL "MONOCULTURE" CREATED BY MEDIA COLONIZATION.
THE UNDERLYING PREMISE IS THAT EACH INDIGENOUS PEOPLES' MUSIC AND CULTURE - THE RESULT OF THEIR UNIQUE RESPONSE TO THEIR UNIQUE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT - FUNCTIONS IN THE SAME WAY AS, AS AN "ELEMENT" IN THE PERIODIC TABLE OF CHEMISTRY: AS PURE BUILDING BLOCKS FROM WHICH ALL OTHER "CULTURAL COMPOUNDS" WILL ARISE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THESE CULTURES ARE OUR "VOCABULARY" IN TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WAYS TO RESPOND TO OUR PLACE IN THE NEW GEOGRAPHY CREATED BY OUR MEDIA WORLD, AND MUST BE RESPECTED RELATIVE TO THEIR IMPORTANCE TO OUR SURVIVAL.
Jon Hassell
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Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 June 2021 04:04 (four years ago)

goddamn

and yeah, was still making great music. but also left behind a ton of great records i don’t imagine i’ll ever really get tired of listening to

rip

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 27 June 2021 04:11 (four years ago)

We will never hear another person like him ever again.

Absolute legend. Respect.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 27 June 2021 05:38 (four years ago)

So sad.

I keep discovering new and unexplored (by me) corners of his work. I had been listening to The Surgeon of the Nightsky Restores Dead Things By The Power of Sound (from the late 80s) just this week - what an amazing record.

Tim F, Sunday, 27 June 2021 07:36 (four years ago)

As Jon is now free of a constricting body, he is liberated to be in his musical soul and will continue to play in the Fourth World.


Rest in peace, you wonderful person.

willem, Sunday, 27 June 2021 07:55 (four years ago)

Oh shit, RIP

paolo, Sunday, 27 June 2021 08:50 (four years ago)

Ah shit. RIP. What a genius.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 27 June 2021 09:08 (four years ago)

Oh no! RIP Jon ;_;

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Sunday, 27 June 2021 09:42 (four years ago)

RIP Jon. That was a lovely statement from his family

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 27 June 2021 10:44 (four years ago)

he made so many ridiculously good albums you can go through decades of his work without finding anything shit, Fascinoma is a personal fave of mine.

calzino, Sunday, 27 June 2021 11:15 (four years ago)

Ronu Majumdar's "Hollow Bamboo" album on the Water Lily label has a real nice guest spot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zeaTh0f0E4

sleeve, Sunday, 27 June 2021 15:16 (four years ago)

New York Times w/ details I didn’t know:

Fascinated by electronic music, he made tape collages and won a grant to study with the avant-garde composer Karlheinz Stockhausen for two years in Cologne, Germany. His classmates included musicians who would go on to start the German band Can; he took LSD with them

curmudgeon, Monday, 28 June 2021 15:26 (four years ago)

I knew he studied with Stockhausen around the same time as Holger Czukay, didn't know about the LSD though!

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2021 15:42 (four years ago)

... and David Johnson, who was in the original line-up of Can.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 28 June 2021 15:44 (four years ago)

RIP. what a life.

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 28 June 2021 15:47 (four years ago)

84 is pretty good. But given that he was creating music at such a high level, it’s hard not to feel a little sadder about this. His last few records betrayed no signs of slowing down whatsoever – in retrospect, I find it remarkable that his music sounded every bit as exotic, brooding and other to the very end.

RIP to one of the greats.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 13:21 (four years ago)

Have we ever polled his albums? I only get this topic when using the search.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:35 (four years ago)

The Surgeon of the Nightsky Restores Dead Things by the Power of Sound----

not seeing this one on Spotify. Author/critic Jon Savage says it's a fave of his

curmudgeon, Thursday, 1 July 2021 17:10 (four years ago)

It's wonderful. Listen to it a lot.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Friday, 2 July 2021 02:04 (four years ago)

Nice tribute mix from Low Light: https://www.mixcloud.com/lowlight/last-night-the-moon-came-a-tribute-to-john-hassell/

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 2 July 2021 06:58 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGFJhExa4Qc

Milton Parker, Friday, 2 July 2021 08:22 (four years ago)

Chaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbcuISx7vDk

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 4 July 2021 20:21 (four years ago)

I miss this guy already

sleeve, Sunday, 4 July 2021 20:28 (four years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0sjEnihSdI

"caracas night september 11, 1975"

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Sunday, 11 September 2022 17:25 (three years ago)

four months pass...

Highly recommended tribute: https://astralindustries.bandcamp.com/album/ai-32-the-fifth-world-recordings

Pataphysician, Friday, 13 January 2023 15:05 (three years ago)

Some live stuff coming out — sounds pretty pretty good ...

https://jonhassell.bandcamp.com/

tylerw, Thursday, 19 January 2023 20:56 (three years ago)

just reading up on some of his credits, turns out he played on a pair of duncan sheik tracks? sounds like a bad david sylvian song hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISt0LotIIEo

diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 19 January 2023 23:04 (three years ago)

the link between bad 90s radio rock and new weird america that ilm needed today

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 19 January 2023 23:07 (three years ago)

Some live stuff coming out — sounds pretty pretty good ...

https://jonhassell.bandcamp.com🕸/


These are standalone issues of the bonus discs from the City: Works of Fiction reissue from a few years back.

Given the volume of stuff that’s apparently still in the Hassell vaults it’s a shame that this is a re-release. (I thought Warp’s archival repackaging of the All Saints catalogue was brilliant, but it seems like the well has run dry a bit there.)

On the other hand, the packaging is nice and that live set (especially the final track) is one of my all time favourite Hassell recordings, so I’ll probably end up buying these.

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:59 (three years ago)

Just now relistening to Brilliant Trees for the first time in a while and his tone when he first appears is unmistakable.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:04 (three years ago)

aahhhh xpost that's too bad re:forthcoming live stuff. that material *is* worth revisiting. this is the cd edition i picked up years ago and it's p spiff.

also yes ned! love him so much on that material. words with the shaman probably already mentioned as such, but i am officially stating my vote for "classic hassell" across the board for all of the sylvian collabs. stating the obvious perhaps, but it's nice to be right for once!

"i'm grateful." (Austin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:15 (three years ago)

sounds like a bad david sylvian song

funny because one of the few things I know about duncan shiek is that he's a big sylvian fan and stated in interviews after Barely Breathing became a huge hit that he was surprised to get any commercial success as he thought of himself as a Sylvian type.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 23:38 (three years ago)

Never understood why Alfred had such a bad reaction to Brilliant Trees. Hassell’s work there (and on Words w the Shaman which was stapled to my CD edition) is so, so good.

Even though I love that he went out on top, I miss this guy.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 13:00 (three years ago)

duncan shiek is that he's a big sylvian fan

yeah i definitely got that sense after listening to the two tracks with hassell and almost made me want to check out some of his other stuff to see if he had some good sylvian-inspired deep cuts

diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 15:50 (three years ago)

three months pass...

aka/dabari/java >>>>>>

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:09 (three years ago)

decided to listen through the whole catalog and spend time with some of his records i've only glancingly heard and wow what a knockout

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:10 (three years ago)

That one is killer. A discography listen sounds just the thing. Lately, I've been listening to *Last Night the Moon* and goddamn.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 21:15 (three years ago)

agreed, so great, very subtle/minimal

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 22:26 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2CO0kFhjwE

i'm glad the living city was given its own release. i don't know that i would've ever heard it otherwise and it's one of the very best hassell things

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 May 2023 18:00 (three years ago)

First heard Hassell w/his track Amsterdam Blue (Cortege) on the soundtrack for the The Million Dollar Hotel. I don't think it appeared anywhere else.

omar little, Sunday, 14 May 2023 18:05 (three years ago)

he was a genius, such a rich catalog.

omar little, Sunday, 14 May 2023 18:05 (three years ago)

Hadn't heard *The Living City* before. Some deep weirdness going on in there. The bassline on the opening track is like having a fly in a tooth cavity.

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Sunday, 14 May 2023 20:12 (three years ago)

two years pass...

I like Earthquake Island though some don't

Well, they're wrong, it's great!

Posts That Witness Madness (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 July 2025 10:58 (ten months ago)

I’ve been on an Eno trip of late and pouring back through his catalogue with Hassell: Possible Musics, Dream Theory in Malaya, Power Spot, Surgeon of the Nightsky, and Flash of the Spirit with Farafina. I’ve always been sort of fascinated by their relationship. Eno got the lion’s share of the credit for the first one and Hassell felt betrayed by Bush of Ghosts. And even though Hassell ended up building a reputation mostly separate from Eno, they continued collaborating and Eno produced or co-produced all but one of his 80s records (Aka/Dabari/Java, credited to Lanois, the most sample-heavy and my current favorite). Supposedly Eno and Hassell would spend time after each tour culling tapes to use for the next album.

Then there’s Living City – the live performance at the World Financial Center’s Winter Garden atrium where Hassell and band performed to an audio-visual installation of Eno’s, which the latter mixed live in surround for 200(!) speakers and included recordings of nature sounds and Pygmy tribes from Cameroon. One review somewhat hilariously described the experience as “tripping on ayahuasca while being led through a tropical rainforest by Miles Davis.”

The video is here, tho perhaps I shared it upthread. In many ways, it’s the culmination of their decade-long collaboration and, I believe, the last time they worked together.

Lastly, Perfect Sound Forever did a terrific tribute to Hassell after he passed away in 2021, with Jason Gross interviewing a bunch of his longtime collaborators – musicians, his engineer and manager. It’s fascinating stuff—and honestly pretty grim at the end—but it gives a great series of perspectives on how he worked:

https://www.furious.com/~furious/perfect/jonhassellrip.html

https://www.furious.com/~furious/perfect/jonhassellrip2.html

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 August 2025 03:12 (ten months ago)

Aka/Dabari/Java totally rules

sleeve, Friday, 1 August 2025 03:32 (ten months ago)

According to his manager that record was made with a Fairlight, I had no idea.

There’s a great Hassell quote shared by one of his guys in there, maybe Rick Cox, that he had to learn how to sample like three or four times because just as he’d get the hang of the latest technology, it would change again.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 August 2025 12:04 (ten months ago)


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