Haruomi Hosono

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Before he was in YMO, he made some solo records. Is there any that you'd especially recommend?

Daniel, Monday, 19 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

no

bob, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hey don't get us bobs mixed up now. i'd be interested to know about hosono & his happy end (not that godawful female beass band who went by the same name). fuck what that alan minter-face lopez woman has done to "firecracker" by YMO , though, i mean MOST pointless woman with a fat arse and a boxer's face in the world or what. faecal smearge on her part. whay can't she stay home instead of going to the studio with her lackeys?

bob snoom, Saturday, 24 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three years pass...
Of his '70s albums, Bon Voyage Co., Tropical Dandy, Pacific, and Cochin Moon are all pretty great exotic pop albums. 'Hosono House,' his first album from 1973 is the only one that isn't very interesting. Overall, my favorite album of his is 'Omni Sight Seeing' from 1989, which Miharu Koshi plays on. It has a great Eastern (like Arab) vibe.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Miharu Koshi—a Hosono protege—is fantastic, I love all her 80s albums. Autoportrait is a good compilation.

I'd highly recommend Hosono's Monad Box, a collection of three of his instrumental and ambient records from the early 80s. My favourite of the discs included is Coincidental Music, which is short pieces made for advertising and promotional films. Sort of electronic Satie. Rather more delicate and strange than Sakamoto's work of the period.

Hosono's best solo song album is S-F-X, a Fairlight-heavy opus from 1984. There's a clip of one track here. And here are some pictures of Hosono, who's now a bit fatter, plays in Sketch Show, and runs the Daisyworld label.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I have Bon Voyage and Tropical Dandy and love them to death. (a friend of mine pointed out that a few tunes on these are practically randy newman progressions, which I never noticed). are the "tin pan alley" ones on par with those?

Unfortunately, getting any of this in the US is near impossible. the only other thing i've managed to track down (through dusty groove) was this bizarre early 80's record that he was apparently only partially involved with, which was a strange "top of the pops" sort of medley of about 15 60's-70's pop/disco standards and a few mediocre jazz-fusion originals.

b'angelo, Thursday, 12 May 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to hear these albums very badly, especially Cochin Moon. They're close to impossible to find here.

'More delicate and strange' than early 80's Sakamoto is quite a teaser. Sakamoto's B-2 Unit and Esperanto are already fairly strange (if not delicate) records, but those were the odd ones out.

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

As a big YMO fan, who indeed hasn't indeed gotten to the bottom of their own back catalogue, are there any websites or articles that explains the YMO family tree and recommends any further listening?

mzui (mzui), Thursday, 12 May 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Most of Hosono's albums are very easy to find in Japan, especially his '70s ones. The only one I own, though, is 'S-F-X'. But your best bet is www.cdjapan.co.jp I make a lot of orders from there.

I agree with Momus--Miharu Koshi is one of the greatest, most underrated Japanese artists of the '80s. She evolved from an insiginifant pop idol in the late '70s to a completely original synth-pop artist. Since the late '80s she's become a bit too idiosyncratic for my tastes ('Chanson Solaire' from '95 is probably her best from that era), but her albums are still beautifuI and I have the highest respect for her. She's due for a new album soon. I think 'Boy Soprano' from '85 is her best album--a perfect combination of her early synth-pop work and later chanson stuff. Unfortunately, her stuff is very hard to find, even in Japan. Her albums pop up on ebay, but they're always quite expensive. 'Boy Soprano' is probably the easiest to find.

One of my favorite Hosono-related bands is Chakra. They put out only three albums in the early '80s, and Hosono produced their second. They're all utterly essential exotic pop albums. Makoto Yano (Akiko Yano's first husband) produced their first album. The singer, Mishio Ogawa, put out four solo albums too, and they're also essential (especially her s/t). The last three were just reissued a few weeks ago actually, and I had never heard them beforehand. So I'm excited about those...they're very good.

Now that I'm talking about Japanese synth-pop, I'll make a few more recommendations. I recently discovered Taeko Onuki (or Ohnuki) and am completely in love. She started in the mid '70s, making more fusion-oriented pop albums, and then she teamed up with Ryuichi Sakamoto in the late '70s and started churning out one amazing pop album after the next. 'Adventure' (1981) is probably my favorite, but I have a lot that I've yet to hear!

Moon Riders are another of my favorites. They've been around since the '70s as well and, in my opinion, reached their peak in the early '80s with 'Mania Maniera' and 'Tokyo wa...'. They've spanned a lot of different style, but never put out a bad album.

Perhaps my favorite is Masami Tsuchiya's 'Rice Music' album (1982) and his follwing Ippu-Do album 'Night Mirage' (1983). Members of the band Japan assist on those two albums, as well as the fretless great Percy Jones. Bowie-esque vocals, experimental, angular guitar work (plus Bill Nelson doing his e-bow thing), completely out of control bass playing, steel drums, layers of synths, etc. Basically it's a hilariously awesome rhythm section with great songs too. I couldn't recommend these two albums more. It's too bad that 'Night Mirage' was never released on CD and 'Rice Music' is impossible to find on CD.....

Oh, and P-Model is another synth-pop great.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

And, addressing that last question, these two sites are by far the best out there on Japanese synth-pop.

http://park10.wakwak.com/~techno/

http://www.artcontext.com/music/artskool/jem

That second one appears to be currently down for some reason....

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I just listend to Cochin Moon today!

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey Leone, I was going to send you an email earlier about how I appreciated you Wha-ha-ha review. In the review you said the singer goes by Mishio...well that's Mishio Ogawa that I was talking about up there. Check out Chakra! You should dig them. I much prefer them to Wha-ha-ha, who are a bit too off the wall for my tastes.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

By the way, if anybody wants any of the stuff I recommended (or any other J synth-pop that I might have) just send me an email and I can hook you up.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 12 May 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I must do that

I love Wha-ha-ha

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 12 May 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I still can't get over how those Wha-ha-ha albums are getting this much (though minute in the scheme of things) attention. I mean they're good, but they're just so obscure. I can think of so many things that should logically receive attention before those. I'm not criticizing anything, I just find it odd. Is there some connection to this band that I'm missing? Any non-Japanese players on it?

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 04:33 (eighteen years ago) link

ReR put out a Wha-ha-ha compilation in the 80s that exposed them to Westerners (albeit ones into avant-prog and experimental music). I haven't really seen a lot of other reviews for them, but I'm guessing that some people just remember that LP.

Also, apparently Mishio was in Killing Time, so I need to check her out.

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah okay.

Yes, I've been looking for Killing Time for a long time. Please let me know if you get a hold of their stuff.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link

There's also an album by Love, Peace & Trance from the '90s. Mishio is "Trance," two women I'm unfamiliar with are the "Love" and "Peace" and Haruomi Hosono is the "&". The cover is kind of funny in that way. It's from '94 I think and kind of worldy...a bit more ambient too. Worth checking out.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Bon Voyage and Tropical Dandy thirded or whatever. yes the Randy Newman progressions, but they also remind me of James Taylor or something equally soft. which may be a compliment since Don Cornelius called him the funkiest white man ever.
and yes to Cochin Moon (placed it on my Pitchfork list of the 70s), but it's completely different. never familiarized myself with YMO though.

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 May 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, there is definitely a strange smooth singer/songwriter vibe to them- for some reason I kept thinking Van Morrison, but that might be more vocal style/phrasing than anything else. How would you characterize Cochin Moon as different? curious because it is one of the few things hypothetically US-available, albeit w/a $40+ price tag

b'angelo, Friday, 13 May 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Cochin Moon is about the furthest possible thing from a singer-songwriter vibe: imagine a tropical space world where all matter flows in and out of states, and everyone uses Tangerine Dream's keyboards. "It's a trip."

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 13 May 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds like a good place to be, then. Is that the one that tadanori yokoo had some sort of involvement with?

b'angelo, Friday, 13 May 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

yes, apparently the cover design was yokoo's. Check it out:

http://www.sonymusicshop.jp/smdr/sms/img/goods/L/KICS-1139.jpg

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

where do you find it for $40?

Beta (abeta), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

making out a yesasia order for Cochin Moon todays. not sure whether to order the 2nd or 3rd album or a copy of S-F-X... are the 2nd and 3rd albums very similar to the first?

Patrick; Dleone's correct about the ReR connection, I grew up as a Recommended Records fanboy, buying anything they'd put out... Though I didn't finally hear Wha-Ha-Ha until researching backwards from the first Haniwa All-Stars record, which blew my mind in the early 90's. My interest in Senba's early Haniwa records & Wha-Ha-Ha is precisely because they're so eccentric & hard to figure out. I don't imagine they're particularly representative of early 80's JPop.

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 13 May 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Milton, I NEED those Haniwa albums!! Is there any way I can get a hold of those from you? Please let me know. I can hook you up with the Chakra albums or whatever else you need.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

milton.parker@gmail.com -- I've got all four of them and would love to trade for Chakra, solo Mishio, anything else

the yesasia site is listing this album in hosono searches, the title is killing me... have you heard it?

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=FHCF-2344

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, I have that one. Though it's probably not as "bizarre" as you'd think. Moon Riders are fairly accessible by our standards. Their earlier albums are superior in my opinion. I'm a huge fan, and have most of their albums ('Amateur Academy' from 1984 is the one I really need). I'll email you.

The easiest way for me to get this stuff to you is through Soulseek. My name on their is Magazine, so message me if you use that program. The only other way I can think of is YSI, which will take a little while (though it's not too much trouble really).

B'angelo has some requests too. Whatever you guys request, I'll get it to you some time this weekend (or now if you have slsk).

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Basically, the ideal music for me is early '80s exotic Japanese synth-pop with fretless bass and steel drums.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 13 May 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Cochin Moon recently has been reissued on CD in Japan. When I was in Tokyo in April, Tower had at least a half dozen copies. Don't sleep--this is an all-time classic of next-level exotica, abounding with bizarre synth tones and textures.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 14 May 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Has he done any more stuff along the lines of SFX? I enjoyed that very much...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 17 June 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Reissue of Cochin Moon sounds great btw.

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 17 June 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

still need to hear SFX, but thanks again to patrick for setting me up with that massive trade.

Cochin Moon, way closer to mid-70's Cluster than I would have ever expected (though I do prefer Cluster). A surprise, even given Dominque's Tangerine Dream reference -- definitely in the 70's trance/synth records pantheon.

Bon Voyage & Tropical Dandy much more tin-pan-alley than electronic, but Paraiso is off-kilter, lays the way out for the first YMO. Omni Sight Seeing, thumbs up if you like late YMO. I like Hosono's solo mainstream pop records much more than Sakamoto's, no contest.

Miharu Koshi's Boy Soprano, wow.

And the Mishio Ogawa & Chakra stuff is eye-opening after a lifetime of Haniwa fandom. Chakra's much more straightforward / less quirky, but I'm very happy just to be able to place Haniwa in context with, well, _anything_.

Boy Soprano, the Mishio Ogawa debut, & Cochin Moon are the three I ordered online after hearing the mp3's.

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 17 June 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Cochin Moon is very enjoyable -- if not particularly immediate, which makes it perhaps a little odd how universally admired it appears to be (Best of the 70's lists and all). I confess it only really impacted me when I went through a heavy analog phase. Also, I'm only hearing the early Cluster '71 in the "Malabar Hotel" sections, really -- I do enjoy how mutilated all the vocals are, however...

Am I correct that this has Sakamoto on it?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 21 November 2005 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link

yes

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I did eventually get S-F-X, and I like it okay -- side one is his tin-pan-alley songwriting poured into super clunky mid-80's j-electro, and side two are abstract quiet instrumentals. 'Alternative 3' is a very disjointed cut-up track that sounds like where Holger Hiller ended up on As Is about six years later, and 'Androgena' is a duet with Miharu Koshi and I heart Miharu Koshi.

I dunno though... even though his pop is weirder than Sakamoto's, Sakamoto's pure experimental albums (B-2 Unit & Esperanto) are 1000% more bizarre and advanced than Hosono's, those albums are timeless.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link

First time I heard Cochin Moon was while tripping on acid with members of Vas Deferens Organization. I wish I could freeze that moment in time forever; it was one of the most amazing experiences I've ever had. I owe those guys a huge debt of gratitude for introducing me to that album and many other obscure psychedelic classics.

original plagiarist, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

hey dominique

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/pid-1004088657/code-j/section-videos/

(this should probably go on the noise board's wha-ha-ha thread but too late)

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link

oh hell they deserve their own thread anyways

Kiyohiko Senba and his Haniwa All Stars

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

SFX has some fantastic Fairlight stuff on it, though. And enough listens to Cochin Moon have at least motivated me to think he's every bit as advanced/sophisticated/whatever as Sakamoto.

BTW, what exactly did Andy Partridge do on B-2 Unit?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link

definitely the rhythm guitar on "6 o'clock News", and there are other little plucks & screeches on other tracks that could be him, maybe. If you listen to the Mr. Partridge Take Away solo album from around the same time you can hear his basic vocabulary of weird guitar sounds

I dunno Matthew, you heard Esperanto?

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link

r. stevie moore's 1980 review of take away

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

definitely the rhythm guitar on "6 o'clock News"

You mean that electric guitar in the right-channel that's barely audible and sounds as if it's unplugged? If so, that's...odd.

I dunno Matthew, you heard Esperanto?

Most of it — I just re-listened again this morning (have about 6 tracks downloaded). Assuming they aren't remixes, I'd say it's good but no B-2 Unit — lots mallet-y textures and ambience. But if you think I'm missing something, maybe I should re-download to verify that I'm listening to the right tracks.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

First time I heard Cochin Moon was while tripping on acid with members of Vas Deferens Organization

ha, I first heard it with "members of the Vas Deferens Organization" too. My member was Eric

news you can use: japanese CDs are too damned expensive

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

track 1 of Esperanto should be called "a WONGGA dance song" and it's anything but ambient...

I am beginning to miss the days when people were relatively certain they were talking about the same record. A few days ago at a dinner party someone put on something interesting, and when I asked what it was he said it was the new Boards of Canada. He didn't believe me when I told him that it wasn't, he just brought over to his iPod to show me the tags.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

brought me over etc. & I know you're not like that Matthew, I'm just feeling ancient

I put on Omni Sight Seeing last night, that is definitely my favorite Hosono pop album, every song...

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

First time I heard Cochin Moon was while tripping on acid with members of Vas Deferens Organization

And I first read that as "tripping on acid with members of Van Der Graaf Generator.

I am beginning to miss the days when people were relatively certain they were talking about the same record.

No kidding — but I think Dom's "news you can use" is the culprit in this instance. And actually, that's one of the 2 tracks I don't have. Still, p2p's are great for finding rarities...

Is there a good Hosono comp, btw?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link

ha, I first heard it with "members of the Vas Deferens Organization" too. My member was Eric

I had both Matt and Eric in the room, with running commentary and interpretive facial expressions. THAT is a proper introduction to Cochin Moon, let me tell you.

original plagiarist (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW, Jon -- since it was on a separate EP that was only added to CD issues of SFX, have you heard the Hosono track "Non-Standard Mixture"? Just askin', b/c it's a great little Fairlight jam, me thinks -- not the clunky electro to which you referred above...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

to the YSI machine then!

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I love clunky electro, my CD of SFX starts with that track. I sound way too critical above, I liked all of these records.

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

All Hail the YSI Machine:

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CE5XMURV2R7N2CTJUHM631DW7

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
So somebody tell me more about Monad Box — it seems expensive ($125 American), but poss. well worth the price...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I found this from http://artcontext.org/music/artskool/jem/hh.html :

The MONAD Albums: These 4 ambient-like albums came out around the same time in 1986 and form a sort of set. They were reissued as a boxed in 2002

Coincidental Music
1985 Monad cd: 30CH-143, TECN-18037, TECN-15337

A sampler of un-released music for movies, TV, commercials and installation 1982-85. This is a good album to hear Hosono's vastly different styles of compositions, though the content is so varried it makes incoherent listening as a whole without programming your CD player.

1. Lichtenstein's 0.31 (recorded 11 Oct 1984)
2. Pietro Germi (re-recording version) 5.30 (recorded 7 July 1983)
3. Normandia 2.36 (recorded 11 July 1984)
4. The Man of China 1.50 (recorded 24 April 1985)
5. Sayokoskatti 4.45 (recorded 8 May 1982)
6. Mazinger "H" 3.14 (recorded 10 March 1984)
7. The Plan 0.31 (recorded 20 June 1985)
8. Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo (re-recording version) 1.31 (recorded 22 Dec 1984)
9. George Don 1.01 (recorded 7 May 1984)
10. Bio Philosophy 4.40 (recorded 8 May 1984)
11. Memphis, Milano (re-recording version)10.27 (recorded 10 Aug 1982)

Mercuric Dance
1985 Monad cd: 30CH-144, TECN-18038, TECN-15338

All synth with a bit of percussion, though rather monochromatic. Recorded 1983-4. For a modern dance ensemble. A video version was once availablet. (Emotion BEB-33)

1. Sunnyside of the Water
2. Mercuric Dance
3. Formation of the Venus
4. Down to the Earth
5. Fossil of Flame - Fifty Bell-Trees
6. Prepared Quartz
7. Sea of tau
8. Windy Land
9. To the Air

Paradise View (Soundtrack)
1985 Monad cd: 30CH-145, TECN-18039, TECN-15339

An album of very interesting, sampled and re-assembled Okinawan music with an emphasis on gamelan-like sounds. I got a chuckle when a Village Voice film critic commented on the wonderful, authentic Okinawan score ("authentic" Hosono and his K250 that is). In the film, Hosono plays a supporting role as a sensitive, but out of his element Japanese grade school teacher transplanted to Okinawa. The big in-joke is that one of the teenage girls in the story has a YMO shrine in her room and seems quite infatuated, yet has no apparent interest in her school teacher and his resembalance to a YMO member. This was the first Okinawan language feature film and according to the IMDB co-stars Jun Togawa though when I saw the film quite some time ago I didn't know what she looked like or had a translation of the cast list.

1. The Image of a Paradise
2. The Image of a View
3. Mabui Dance
4. Yuta's Pray
5. Atti
6. Wheels on Fire
7. The Truck on the Sea
8. Roochoo Jazz
9. The Paradise View

The Endless Talking
1986 Monad cd: 30CH-159, TECN-18040, TECN-15340

If you can't stand repetition, then "Endless" is the operating word here. This was for an Italian art installation. 13 bright, quirky and repetetive synth pieces. Recorded 25 April 1985.

1. Mercuryfall
2. The Animal's Opinion
3. Insects Insists Insecurity
4. The Long Story of a Humankind
5. The First One in Heaven
6. Sequential Opera Circuit
7. Trembling #1
8. The Endless Talking
9. Scratched
10. Szymanowsky Bird
11. Digitally Sampled Etnography
12. La Pliocena/Birdoj
13. Trembling #2

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

HEY, NO LISTS!

PappaWheelie, don't fuck this up (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 2 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...

If you enjoy Hosono's SFX album, seek out the F.O.E. (Friends of Earth) "Friend or Foe" 12" or the CD "The World of F.O.E." which feature remixes of SFX album tracks plus two other tracks which are completely killer and even floor-friendly. The Exterminated Mix of "Body Snatchers" in particular has a devastating razor-blade edit ending that's almost Apparat-like, or at least as good as Cab Voltaire stuff of similar vintage.

DJ Logan5, Sunday, 20 May 2007 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i'm making my way through the monad box tonight. so far paradise view (soundtrack from a film of the same name) sounded great, lots of unusual (dx7?) synth-bell melodies and some looped gamelan samples. very pristine and atmospheric

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone heard philaharmony his 1982 album? 'cos i'm listening to "platonic" for the first time (incredible tripped-out echo chamber electro track) and wanna know if the rest of the album is in the same vein

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

("platonic" is on this btw: http://www.discogs.com/Various-Electrounique-Vol-5/release/1683109, the only place to get die dominas on vinyl for under 200 euros?)

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

philharmony is excellent btw. a mix of his wacked out symphonic fairlight stuff, BGM style electro, and melodic j-pop.

as for hosono produced lop-sided exotic j-pop, this album is essential: http://www.discogs.com/Miharu-Koshi-Tutu/release/665681

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link

[X-post from 9/21/05]

Big feature on Hosono in issue 162 of The Wire from 1997, by Clive Bell. Good thing I'm a pack rat -- I still have that issue! It's sitting open on my couch as I speak (I'm at work right now though, so I haven't finished rereading it). It only took me 8 years to track the damn albums down! I remember thinking it sounded a lot like Discover America era Van Dyke Parks. And as I skimmed the beginning of the article, Hosono mentions how Parks produced one of the albums of his early 70s psychedelic band Happy End.

The albums are:

Tropical Dandy 1975
Bon Voyage Co. 1976
Paraiso 1978

The last one features the awesome cover of "Fujiyama Mama," and was credited to Haruomi Hosono and the Yellow Magic Band, a Beefheart reference. This evolved into the Yellow Magic Orchestra, which I recommend to anyone who would care to hear a whimsical Japanese Kraftwerk. When the mood strikes I'll dig for some of that Happy End.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Not that anyone is even talking about it in this thread anymore, but 'Cochin Moon' is probably the single best "Japanese import in a faux-LP sleeve" purchase I've ever made. If it were a YMO album, it might be my favorite. Giddy, messy, strange, intoxicating, brilliant stuff.

Soundslike, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Sakamoto's pure experimental albums (B-2 Unit & Esperanto) are 1000% more bizarre and advanced than Hosono's, those albums are timeless.

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:06 (3 years ago)

having finally heard cochin moon, i'd argue that this and the monad records are way more bizarre and advanced than anything sakamoto has done. hosono is on another level

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

both Cochin Moon and Esperanto do great things with world music collage, one with 70's analog electronics and one with disjointed Fairlight sampling / cut-ups. they're both great, for different tastes. My long interest in sampling music has me partial to Esperanto, but that album is a wild exception for him, in general I'd probably agree with you

need to hear the Monad box. & thanks for waking thread, it got my favorite Miharu Koshi songs back on my iPod

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I love the Sakamoto albums you mention, Jon L (three years ago). But 'Cochin Moon' is definitely beyond either of them, and carries amazing themes and sounds through its duration. It feels like a journey.

Soundslike, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

What else of his sounds like this? seriously dig this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zu8QMgbYhU&feature=related

dsb, Thursday, 2 July 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

great song! the album it's taken from, philharmony, is a straight classic imo. a mix of melodic techno pop and very very strange fairlight experiments. i see i said that already but it bears repeating.

includes a deranged (and extremely catchy) cover of "funiculi funicala":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7BhE3yY-7s

the last two classic era ymo albums, naughty boys and service are both pop song orientated. both classics, just don't expect the lounge disco hybrid of early ymo nor the far-out ethno-tronic sound of bgm/technodelic. also check some yukihiro takahashi solo albums for more song orientated ymo sounding stuff

i haven't heard SFX, hosono's next pop record after philharmony, maybe others can recommend.

then start searching his more outwardly pop productions throughout the 80s, miharu koshi and jun togawa being his main collaborators.

the closest he gets to "sportsmen" later on is the single as apogee & perigee, amazing sentimental pop music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0E1N2EJVhg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXaT5bg0YMc

michael jatas (r1o natsume), Thursday, 2 July 2009 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link

should've proof read that before i posted. anyway, my current favourite hosono jam is 夏なんです by happy end, his early 70s folk rock group. so beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMSfi0CrQL4

michael jatas (r1o natsume), Thursday, 2 July 2009 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

this happy end album has some great moments.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

such as the entirety of kaze wo atsumete

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

is it just hosono, or maybe just me, or are japanese pop artists allowed (or allow themselves) a great lassitude...? he seems to range across so many genres, without any compunctions. the idea of switching modes so frequently doesn't seem to trouble him in the slightest.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

My favorite current Hosono album is Paraiso, however I have discovered one that I have been quite impressed with. It's called "Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo", a soundtrack to some abstract animated film from the mid-80's. As far as I know his soundtrack wasn't even used (I wouldn't know as I've never seen the movie) but the soundtrack album is very good. It's not really outwardly scary or anything, just very harrowing and cold. Really portrays a feeling of loneliness and uses some really creepy keyboard noises. At the same time it's playful and kind of cheery. It's the sort of thing that only Hosono could have pulled off. There is one absolutely gorgeous piano piece on it ("La Travida Malgojo de Giovanni") that IMO tops any of Sakamoto's similar efforts. I get chills just thinking about it.

frogbs, Monday, 4 October 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

^ crazy, i was just about to revive this thread. recently heard 'cochin moon' and 'philharmonic' for the first time and i'm kinda floored tbh

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

All YMO related threads are seriously some of my favorite on ILM.

Zooster vs. The Slapp (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^

here's where r1o natsume would have been chiming in had he not gone batshit and got his ass banned.

third-strongest mole (corey), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

weird, that happened? would not have predicted that.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link

and yeah, hosono is the best. medicine compilation, NDE, and philharmonic are my faves.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:28 (thirteen years ago) link

What happened with r1o?

That Blippity Bloop Music (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

this is what my investigation turned up:

he image bombed the wdyll thread with various types of porn & got bant

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:24 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also made homophobic slurs

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karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess r1o had some tricks up his sleeve

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 6 October 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

yipes!

That Blippity Bloop Music (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Going through the Monad albums now; this is what I always hoped Brian Eno's ambient stuff sounded like. Very oddly sentimental, has parts that sort of hint at pop melodies and parts where a chord sounds intentionally "off". Great stuff!!!

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey guy, r1o messaged me to let you know that he's fine, he just needed a permaban so he could quit ILX cold turkey and finish schoolwork, and also that he's not a homophobe.

He also wanted me to post the rest of the Monad box he had meant to post:

mercuric dance

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xiuhge

coincidental music

http://www.sendspace.com/file/agijq6

paradise view

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hr6alw

Also: Sakamoto/Robin Scott - The Arrangement

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pj0ddj

corey, Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link

hey *guys, I mean

corey, Thursday, 28 October 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

r10 is a homophobe fwiw.

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know, I'm only saying what he told me.

corey, Thursday, 28 October 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

somehow i'm both a huge fan of hosono but wholly clueless about this monad box. which disc should i download first?

beta blog, Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Coincidental Music is great — little short character pieces he did for TV ads IIRC. Highly melodic and memorable.

Mercuric Dance is his ambient album. His sort of gauzy, hazy sleepiness seems to take off from the last track of Music for Airports (even Eno never really did anything else like that track).

Paradise View is a soundtrack to an obscure Japanese film set in Okinawa (I think). Lots of Fairlights and tropical moods (like Sakamoto's Esperanto) with some Okinawan-sounding vocals.

corey, Thursday, 28 October 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked this description:

"An album of very interesting, sampled and re-assembled Okinawan music with an emphasis on gamelan-like sounds. I got a chuckle when a Village Voice film critic commented on the wonderful, authentic Okinawan score ("authentic" Hosono and his K250 that is). In the film, Hosono plays a supporting role as a sensitive, but out of his element Japanese grade school teacher transplanted to Okinawa. The big in-joke is that one of the teenage girls in the story has a YMO shrine in her room and seems quite infatuated, yet has no apparent interest in her school teacher and his resembalance to a YMO member. This was the first Okinawan language feature film and according to the IMDB co-stars Jun Togawa though when I saw the film quite some time ago I didn't know what she looked like or had a translation of the cast list."

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 November 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

New album "HoSoNoVa" due April 20th? Anyone have any idea what this is? It appears to be a new solo album (his first in a long time) with guests and a few covers, but that's all I could discern through Google translate

frogbs, Monday, 7 March 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

http://lottapieces.com/images/products/jayz/hova.jpg

jaxon, Monday, 7 March 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

so not a lot of info overall

your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Monday, 7 March 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah hopefully we get something on this in the coming days/weeks

I'm thinking of doing a Hosono albums poll but honestly I have no idea where to draw the line...plus you can't exactly compare Tropical Dandy to Coincidental Music

frogbs, Monday, 7 March 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Speaking of - if you have Coincidental Music, go listen to the last track (the 11+ minute one); it's such a gorgeous piece of music that I think does a good job representing what Hosono was really all about. I love how it gradually segues into a Philharmony-type vocal experiment track for a while. Could easily be longer. Can't believe I never have it a fair shake until now.

frogbs, Thursday, 24 March 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

damn, the last song on "Omni Sight Seeing" is so beautiful, how I wish he made more albums that were just straightforward techno-pop

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

been listening to tropical dandy a lot recently, liking it a lot

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that lullaby-type instrumental at the end is amazing. but really Bon Voyage Co. and ESPECIALLY Paraiso are even better.

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Man, 'Cochin Moon.' It's astonishing that they were using the relatively new musical form (electronic pop music) with such total control, making it sound effortless and alive in ways electronic pop made with a further couple decades rarely match. I'd say it almost makes 'E=MC2' sound a little clunky. And the production is just unbelievable--not sure what method is employed, but it has moments that create a surround-sound effect--beyond stereo, sounds around the listening point, or moving far away or nearby in front of you.

Soundslike, Saturday, 12 November 2011 04:20 (twelve years ago) link

It's like Dockstader or Parmegianni or Henry--making fully-realized, emotional electronic and electro-acoustic music a decade or two earlier, while most people were just barely managing to twiddle knobs and make "UFO sound effects". So far ahead of the game, I'd be bowled over if it were released today--because it's just so good, it's decidedly secondary that it's visionary.

Soundslike, Saturday, 12 November 2011 04:22 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

good description, just wanted to point out that "Hum Ghar Sajan" blows me away every damn time, I wish there were more songs like that one

I'm starting to get into his Omni Sight Seeing/Medicine Comp/NDE period and it's pretty good; essentially a mix of the different styles he's attempted, plus some very Indian-style techno, again ahead of its time. Strongly recommended, it turns out there is life after YMO

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

"birthday" is so cool

blank, Thursday, 13 September 2012 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

"happy birthday", i mean. sounds so far ahead of its time.

blank, Thursday, 13 September 2012 07:34 (eleven years ago) link

One last time. "birthday party"

blank, Thursday, 13 September 2012 07:34 (eleven years ago) link

only song i've ever uploaded to youtube is a killer cover of "sports man"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gi8futLRbM

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2012 08:39 (eleven years ago) link

hey that's neat! love the different vocals that occur midway through.

blank, Thursday, 13 September 2012 09:03 (eleven years ago) link

I always wondered what Sportsmen was about...my guess was it's about being from a family of athletes, but kind of sucking at everything?

I don't know if I can call "Birthday Party" ahead of its time; who else makes music like that??

frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

i love how Sportsmen has this endearingly outsider/emasculated point of view as he considers fitness, it always makes me think of retro illustrations of athletes as a sort of utopian ideal.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

just wanna paste these lyrics, it sounds like he's having a near-death experience (and then again, it could just be about nothing)

My car radio's playing a song
That makes me feel very strange
It's taken so long
Through the gradation of the grey scale
A landscape like I've never seen
As far as my eyes can see
Out on the road
I've seen so many shades, shades of grey
Now I'm back in the tunnel again
Every minute, every second
I can feel it getting closer
Speeding ahead
To where grey meets white

frogbs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

thematically, the lyrics of "sportsmen" remind me of "pride" by robert palmer (except the dude in "pride" is a total prick and the dude in "sportsmen" is humble and introspective).

blank, Thursday, 13 September 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

i just made a ~75 minute mix of Hosono tracks, mostly from his post-YMO era (topping out at 1993 since I haven't heard anything after), focusing on the more surreal/gorgeous stuff. anyone interested?

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

y'huh

let's get the banned back together (schlump), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link

and yes, please, and thank you!

nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

Hells yes frogbs, post that thing!

Pat Ast vs Jean Arp (MaresNest), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

been spinning the monad stuff a lot lately, so this sounds right up my alley. v much interested!

original bgm, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

Alright, here she is. Nearly every Hosono album I've heard has two or three tunes on it that hit me in a weird way, or make me want to listen to them over and over again, so I basically just put a bunch of them into one playlist and I've been listening to it nonstop. It focuses on the electronic stuff, though there are a few solo piano tracks here. I kept everything from the (numerous) collaborations out as well as his pre-Cochin Moon material since it doesn't really fit in here. Enjoy!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/r4b8ud

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

into this, thank you.

just discovered the tale of genji ost this week. incredible.

original bgm, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

those shimmering, reverb-drenched percussion sounds. man.

original bgm, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

I always hosono every day

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

the percussion is my favorite part of many of these tracks. listening to them all in a row it's kind of neat how consistant he is with that, even with the ten-year gap the drum loops on "Hum Ghar Sajan" and his cover of "Caravan" are very similar, ditto "Sayokoskatti"

one thing I really dig about Hosono is that there's a real sense of location to a lot of his music. it doesn't really feel like it was created in a studio. the tale of genji ost is a good example of this but really everything he does kind of transports you to a strange place.

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

"sayokoskatti" is so awesome

original bgm, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

yep

clouds, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/i0eBG.jpg

mookieproof, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

i'd put that on my car

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

"sayokoskatti" is so awesome

Thirded. All time.

blank, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yB2sxzq4TE&playnext=1&list=PL56FFF887D6F3EE79

really like how chill old Harry is. great rendition

frogbs, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

and here we have him dancing around the studio. didnt know he had another new album out (this time, all covers, from Dylan to Tiny Tim to Kraftwerk)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeHTFlkBBcM

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

um this is the greatest thing i've ever heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxvjXDAfPhk

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

wrote a bit about why I love Paraiso so much here

http://critterjams.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/haruomi-hosono-paraiso-1978/

frogbs, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone heard the album he did with Miharu Koshi called Swing Slow? It's one of those rare albums I wound up playing 3x the first time I got it, dunno how to really describe it well but there's something about this. It's mostly poppy in the Shibuya-kei sense but not overly cheery or anything, and a lot of the songs have a 50's or 60's vibe to them. But there is some rather modern-sounding production, through neat ambient interludes or sudden electronic beats. Kinda jokey and it can be a little sparse but it's very high-quality, maybe the best 90's Hosono release I've heard so far. It does contain a cover of "I'm Leavin' it up to You", which was a hit for the Osmonds I believe, and "Good Morning, Mr. Echo", which I hadn't heard before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPAt0J-e0yU&noredirect=1

frogbs, Monday, 10 March 2014 20:25 (ten years ago) link

yeah! I really like this one. interesting production choices all around and it gives the straight material a slightly peculiar character I'm into. it really gets cooking with the last couple tracks. big fan of "capybara":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22PIXGVP9w

but I think my favorite 90s hosono thing is still love, peace, & trance. that one is top tier imo or pretty damn close anyway (tough to say with someone with so many classics in his catalog).

original bgm, Monday, 10 March 2014 20:56 (ten years ago) link

Frogbs, is there any chance you could repost that Hosono mix you did? I missed it first time round.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 10:00 (ten years ago) link

I lost it too. But, I can make a new and better one!

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link

That'd be great!

I've never gotten to grips with his solo work, especially 80's onward, same goes for Sakamoto.

Yuki's solo stuff that I have heard, I've not been very impressed with even though he's undeniably an interesting dude.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:28 (ten years ago) link

Here's a mix I did a year or so back of YMO and related stuff including Hosono and Sakamoto

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 23:35 (ten years ago) link

Kicks off with "Gradated Gray", my favorite YMO tune...very nice!!!

frogbs, Thursday, 13 March 2014 02:41 (ten years ago) link

Alright, here we go. This time I cheated by using some of Hosono's productions, though I tried to keep it to the stuff that sounds most like his solo work. Mostly, I was trying to pull the tracks I liked best. Maybe cheating a bit but I think they all fit together quite well. Already I feel I whiffed on this by not including any Happy End, but its too late to change now. I have yet to hear all his albums and I'm sure I missed a great pick or five but I've been listening to these mixes today and they seem real solid so far!

I divided this roughly into the more ambient tracks and the more techno or pop oriented ones, both about 70 minutes long so they'll fit on a CD-R. I know that's a lot but this is a 4-decade, dozen-band career we're talking here! Enjoy!

Hosono Technopop

1. Chaos Panic - Yellow Magic Orchestra B-Side, 1983 (???)
2. Living-Dining-Kitchen - Philharmony, 1982
3. Image - Miharu Koshi Parallelisme, 1984
4. Return of Body Snatchers - F.O.E. Friend or FOE?, 1985 (I believe this is a Hosono solo track)
5. Right Place Wrong Time - F.O.E. Sex, Energy and Star, 1986 (Dr. John cover!)
6. Sayokoskatti - Coincidental Music, 1985
7. Tokyo Shyness Boy - Bon Voyage Co., 1976
8. Capybara - Swing Slow, 1996
9. [japanese title] - World Standard, 1985 (Hosono produced this album and this is the track that most bears his touch)
10. Caravan - Omni Sight Seeing, 1989
11. Asatoya Yunta - Paraiso, 1978
12. I'm Leaving It All Up to You - Swing Slow, 1996
13. Good Morning, Mr. Echo - Swing Slow, 1996
14. Hush-a Mandala Ni Pali - Love, Peace, and Trance, 1995
15. Flying George - Sketch Show Audio Sponge, 2002
16. Memphis, Milano - Coincedental Music, 1985

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ydlcvi

Hosono Ambient Mix

1. Shimendoka - Paraiso, 1978
2. Gradated Gray - Yellow Magic Orchestra Technodelic, 1981
3. Kokoro Da - Love, Peace, and Trance, 1995
4. Wakamurasaki - The Tale of Genji soundtrack, 1987
5. La Gojo - Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo soundtrack, 1985. Miharu Koshi on vocals.
6. Birdoj - The Endless Talking, 1987
7. Mass - Yellow Magic Orchestra BGM, 1981
8. La Travida Malgojo de Giovanni - Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo, 1985
9. Hum Ghar Sajan - Cochin Moon, 1978
10. Bio Philosophy - Coincidental Music, 1985
10. Bamboo Wave - Good Sport, 1995
11. Fly me to the River - Sketch Show Loophole, 2003
12. Hasu Kriya - Love, Peace, and Trance, 1995
13. Ohotzka - Sketch Show Tronika, 2003
14. Ekot (Cornelius Mix) - Sketch Show Loophole, 2003
15. Pleocene - Omni Sight Seeing, 1989

http://www.sendspace.com/file/bf1hc9

frogbs, Thursday, 13 March 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link

these look awesome!

but

...no "windy land"??? ;-)

original bgm, Thursday, 13 March 2014 04:33 (ten years ago) link

thanks, frogbs

andrew m., Thursday, 13 March 2014 04:36 (ten years ago) link

whoa these look great, frogbs! Thanks!

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 13 March 2014 05:14 (ten years ago) link

I'm really enjoying the ambient one, well most of it anyway. Thank you very much, frogbs.

Daniel Giraffe, Thursday, 13 March 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

Here's a mix I did a year or so back of YMO and related stuff including Hosono and Sakamoto

― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

any chance you could post a tracklist?

original bgm, Thursday, 13 March 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link

seconded - there were some tunes in there that I didn't recognize and I'm curious what they were. YEN records stuff maybe?

frogbs, Thursday, 13 March 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link

Thank you very much Frogbs and Capitaine!

A few weeks back a friend requested a mix of 'some of that Japanese stuff you like' so in the spirit of sharing here is a link.

It's a mish-mash of Shibuya Kei, some older new wave and some things in-between.

http://we.tl/pZbLNC13e8

1. Clammbon - Rock Climbing
2. Kahime Karie - Mike Alway's Diary
3. Akiko Yano - Ikanaide
4. Comoesta Yaegashi - Bossa With Madam Rosa
5. Fantastic Plastic Machine - L'Aventure Fantastique
6. Ikuko Harada - Kodama
7. Cubismo Grafico - Obrigado Obrigada
8. Hikashu - The Model
9. Our Hour - Panda Riot
10. Shione Yukawa - 風よ吹かないで
11. Mariah - そこから
12. Capsule - Sweet Time Replay (feat. Dahlia)
13. Midori Hirano - Ancient Story In The Room
14. Nagisa Cosmetic - Cosmetic Happy
15. Happy End - Ghosts Of Flying Squirrels At Kuriyamizaka
16. Hazel Nuts Chocolate - Kaze Hiite Batankyuu
17. Macdonald Duck Eclair - Many Many Sweets
18. Buffalo Daughter - Ivory
19. The Folk Crusaders - Harenchi

MaresNest, Thursday, 13 March 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link

Hey guys sorry but never made a tracklist. There's stuff off bootleg demos and rehearsals floating around on there if I recall
but it's all mainly released stuff.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 13 March 2014 21:51 (ten years ago) link

np, just thought I'd ask in case you had it handy

original bgm, Friday, 14 March 2014 03:47 (ten years ago) link

live ver of "thousand knives" the mix closes with rules

original bgm, Friday, 14 March 2014 03:48 (ten years ago) link

Technopop momix is excellent. Artwork is outstanding!

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 14 March 2014 12:37 (ten years ago) link

momix = mix

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 14 March 2014 12:38 (ten years ago) link

i saw hosono-san and koshi miharu live, doing kinda loungey acoustic stuff. was p good. miharu has an amazing singing voice

a hosono related thing i've been digging recently is the first yumin record from... 1973 i think. she kinda set the stage for the idol/シティーポップ boom in the 80s. she's the idol, really, japan's most loved pop star. it's mellow folky singer-songwriter type stuff, slick 70s studio sheen. hosono plays bass alongside some of the other tin pan alley dudes (under their caramel mama guise), and does some arrangements and what not

http://www.geocities.jp/d58es_vr2/img/tanpopo7.JPG

missingNO, Friday, 14 March 2014 13:24 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

love him. my preferences: http://www.last.fm/user/jakobdorof/library/music/%E7%B4%B0%E9%87%8E%E6%99%B4%E8%87%A3

soyrev, Sunday, 11 January 2015 22:53 (nine years ago) link

Anyone got "Archives, Vol. 1"? I think it's mostly stuff taken from soundtracks to various things. Though the notes say the tracks span from 1987 to 2008 it seems like the majority is from his Monad period, so if you like the ambient side of Hosono you'll probably dig a lot of this. Parts of it remind me of the quieter bits of his Omni Sight Seeing album.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link

x-post

I was excited to hear it but ultimately found that archives release to be a little underwhelming. not bad or anything, but not really on part with any of the monad releases. :-/

original bgm, Thursday, 22 January 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

N.D.E. is really great -- kinda sorta dolphin-y 1995 era ambient techno with lots of gamelan samples. cool to hear him being influenced by 808 state, the orb, orbital et al as he was a huge influence on all of them.

i also play "pliocene" at least a few times a week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxvjXDAfPhk

dudem, (clouds), Sunday, 29 March 2015 08:44 (nine years ago) link

Never got much into NDE - thought the beats were cool but it misses the melody aspect that I like so much from him. Love "Heliotherapy" and "Aero", but overall I think his other, more ambient mid-90's albums are better.

I've been big into Miharu Koshi's Boy Soprano; Hosono features heavily on it (along with her prior two), but this one in particular feels like a really great Hosono album with some terrific singing on it. There's a big nod to Cochin Moon and a really haunting "Ave Maria" which is amongst the most beautiful versions of the song I've ever heard.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Monday, 30 March 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

going over his discog again today as i have to resort it on a new computer. i know this thread isn't a formal S/D, but just for fun....remarkably, it seems like if i ever had Cochin Moon, i don't have it now. if anyone notices other glaring omissions, do lmk...

Search: NDE, the Paraiso collab album (!), Bon Voyage Co. (!), Good Sport, Hosono House (! i remember perusing some LITA-type compilation of '70s 'country funk' from the american south; this album negotiates that blend so much more naturally), HoSoNoVa (! similar deal, but folk fit to early 20th century pop templates), Medicine Compilation (!), Mercuric Dance (! a few of the best ambient pieces i've ever heard), Naga: Music for Monsoon (! despite titles like "Sherpa" and "Taj-mahal," it's not silly in the way Sakamoto's 'Indian'/'Himalayan"-inspired music occasionally was), Omni Sight Seeing ("Korendor" and especially "Pleocene" are essential, though I do think the rest is among his least coherent work), Pacific (! great exotica/muzak), Philharmony (! first couplet tracks are a bit goofy even for my tastes, but rest is great and "Sports Men" is easily a top ten track for the entire YMO universe), Tale of Genji (like a darker, more sustained Naga), The Aegean Sea (a really nice, more upbeat/fusion companion to Pacific), The Endless Talking (! his starkest, least sociable album that i've heard, but amazing sounds and composition), Tropical Dandy (down the tracklist more and more of a Randy Newman influence shines through, which refracts really nicely through Haruomi's lens)
Consider: Making of Non-Standard Music (neat but inessential), Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo (ditto), Paradise View (totally solid, but he has so much music in this vein and a lot of it is better)
Destroy: Video Game Music compilation (interesting that he did so many early games soundtracks -- Pac-Man included! -- but as standalone music, it's mostly insufferable)

his work as a songwriter is so distinctive that it can be easy to forget he's a god-tier ambient artist, up there with eno.

anyone else appreciate the not-quite-on-the-beat cymbal work buried deep in the mix of "sports men?" goes a long way in counterbalancing all the song's repetition.

any clear precursors/influences one might name for "Pleocene?" might just be a blindspot in my listening, but i really don't think i've ever heard another song like this one.

reading a thoughtful amazon review for Philharmony, and it notes, "Keep in mind that this album was originally recorded all the way back in 1982 (coincidentally the same year compact disc technology began revolutionizing the recording industry), and represents the first time digital sampling was ever used to construct an entire musical album." anyone know if there is truth to this claim? first ever?

lastly, i wouldn't have guessed it, but given i've yet to find any truly crap (or even sub-good) albums in his discography, i might say i prefer his body of solo work to ryuichi's. ryuichi may have better highs, or at least more of them, but he's definitely got some real blunder albums under his belt (and more than his share of so-so).

soyrev, Saturday, 11 April 2015 08:03 (nine years ago) link

ALSO noticed upthread many references to YMO/ryuichi/haruomi bootlegs, rehearsal recordings, etc. where/how can i hear???

soyrev, Saturday, 11 April 2015 08:04 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMhUfASCW4g

vyvyan vanse (clouds), Saturday, 11 April 2015 12:49 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

http://i60.tinypic.com/2qa1vkj.jpg

MaresNest, Sunday, 9 August 2015 07:57 (eight years ago) link

rad

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 9 August 2015 09:14 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

If I could somehow live inside a song, it would be Pleocene

MaresNest, Sunday, 29 November 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link

^^ pretty much, so fucking beautiful

clouds, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

Is it because of the cats?

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Monday, 30 November 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

Peacocks, silly

MaresNest, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

singing "ooh la la la"

clouds, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

Hey? Did you know that Hosono’s grandpa was the only Japanese passenger on the Titanic? And that he survived?

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-survivor/masabumi-hosono.html

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20125020,00.html

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 11:05 (eight years ago) link

Amazing! Thanks for that!

MaresNest, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 12:10 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

He made a record with Steely Dan at some point, in the vein of Steely Dan almost. A quite random record.

https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/prins-thomas-dug-deep-into-his-crates-and-found-his-7-favorite-ambient-records-of-all-time?utm_Soruce=thumptwitterus

um, any idea what he's talking about here? can't imagine this is true.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 05:02 (eight years ago) link

lol yeah i don't think that's true

lute bro (brimstead), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 05:08 (eight years ago) link

prins thomas would get roasted alive on ilm!!

lute bro (brimstead), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 05:09 (eight years ago) link

hahaha yea I can't even think of a hosono record that even kinda sounds like the dan

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 05:10 (eight years ago) link

a hosono + dan collab would make me piss my pants

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 05:22 (eight years ago) link

Me too, there's a few JP bands that are Dan like (Kirinji or Tomita Lab) but I can't think of any Hosono tracks that sound like them either.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 10:22 (eight years ago) link

Still alive. Good.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 13:35 (eight years ago) link

could he be thinking of World Standard? man, I have no clue

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 13:40 (eight years ago) link

Still alive. Good.

I'm gonna start rip threads for live dudes if you knuckleheads keep this up

lute bro (brimstead), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

Bet he meant Little Feat

Deverly (Bangelo), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

He meant Little Feat.

Demeraray & Essequebo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 22:47 (eight years ago) link

who played with Happy End right? that's probably it

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

Got it.

Demeraray & Essequebo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link

And they were the backing band for the first Akiko Yano record too.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link

ah yes, that must be what he meant

how did hosono hook up w/ little feat btw? there must be a good story there.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 11 February 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link

Maybe happy end opened up for them in Japan? Wasn't' happy end the early 70s folky group hosono was in?

lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 11 February 2016 03:49 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

World Standard

going through big Hosono kick right now, and just discovered this band. I kind of can't believe I like it, but this first record is really nice

Dominique, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link

their 3rd record (confusing called "world standard 2") is even better - on hosono's FOA label & also produced by him. 2nd record "allo" lacks hosono involvement and is kind of a outliner in their catalog (as there's not much of the minimalist francophile vibes / overt nina rota references / etc) but there's a couple really amazing abstracted pop songs. also the everything play albums (which was another alias sohichiro suzuki used) are worth checking out - especially "posh" from '91...

suzuki can at times come off a little precious or maudlin but there's a certain kind of precision in his approach (very japanese, of course) that i can always appreciate. the inverted gaze of his pan-culturalism (itself present in a bunch of hosono's work as well) is also quite fascinating

spencer d, Thursday, 30 June 2016 04:20 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

pacific is so relaxing atm

clouds, Monday, 14 November 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

this blog has a post on (with download link) music hosono did for the housewares brand muji in the early 80s -- it sounds most like mercuric dance but the tracks are more longform and minimalistic. had no idea this even existed.

http://glob.daniel-letson.com/posts/haruomi-hosono-watering-a-flower/

clouds, Monday, 2 January 2017 04:36 (seven years ago) link

yes! also featured on the first muji bgm disc:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUJI_BGM1980-2000

so beautiful & so addictive. I listen to this almost every day. it's a part of my life's routine at this point, making coffee, feeding my cats, listening to hosono's bgm.

ps the 'found muji' store in shibuya plays this stuff on loop!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 2 January 2017 05:43 (seven years ago) link

Heaven is Hosono's first Muji BGM track on infinite loop.

J. Sam, Monday, 2 January 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW6XDU96KI0

excellent revive, this is great!

Karl Malone, Monday, 2 January 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

Yup, that's the one. *chills down the spine*

J. Sam, Monday, 2 January 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link

<3

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 2 January 2017 22:40 (seven years ago) link

Fantastic.

(Is that a Juno 60 we're here?)

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 2 January 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN7UE4uGIwE

This didn't seem to be on Youtube so I ripped it from vinyl and stuck it up there. I really like this micro-edit era of his work, shame there's not a little more of it out there.

bamboohouses, Sunday, 14 May 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

superb.
hey, it's got the John McLaughlin opening guitar note sample from 'Miles Runs the Voodoo Down' that Jon Hassell used too (on 'Mati' from 'Dressing for Pleasure')!

Max Florian, Sunday, 14 May 2017 11:26 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Happy Birthday!!! (well for yesterday, gomenasai)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_93SrREKkE

MaresNest, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 12:04 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

New album out in Japan this week, and sound samples up here: http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/hosono/

Still in his folk/lounge phase, but sounds great...

bamboohouses, Sunday, 12 November 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

I kinda love that he's going back to the start of his career, in a way. I'm assuming these are mostly covers, correct?

mentioned this in the vaporwave thread but Internet Club's Vanishing Vision album has a very distinct and deliberate Hosono vibe - this track feels like it could have been directly lifted from Coincidental Music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26vJlGSUDnU&feature=youtu.be&t=15m53s

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

it was probably directly lifted from Shenmue

clouds, Thursday, 16 November 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

hah, right...maybe not the guy himself but whatever he lifted it from

frogbs, Friday, 17 November 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link

New album is two discs - covers on disc 1, originals on disc 2 (including I think some reworkings of earlier Hosono songs?).

I love how is approaches this period of American music from an almost anthropological perspective - far from just assuming it's the default mode of rock and roll and replicating it, he treats it to the same kind of ethnographic/exotic study as, say, Hassell was doing with non-Western music.

bamboohouses, Friday, 17 November 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

* how HE approaches

bamboohouses, Friday, 17 November 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

huh I never thought of it that way

after some research it looks like the songs on Disc 2 span from 84 to the present day, though much of it re-recorded.

frogbs, Friday, 17 November 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Of all the places where I expected to see an English-language review of the new album, the Economist homepage was not one of them.
https://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2017/12/story-synthesiser

bamboohouses, Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

whoever wrote that is a real hero

frogbs, Thursday, 7 December 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Crapped my pants today, Harry is playing his first ever gig in the UK in June, public tickets on sale tomorrow.

https://www.barbican.org.uk/whats-on/2018/event/light-in-the-attic-haruomi-hosono-acetone

MaresNest, Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

Noticed that in my email box today.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link

any idea what he's playing these days? "material across his career" is kind of a funny thing to say about Hosono...imagine saying that about Brian Eno

frogbs, Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link

Dunno, but gawd, what a wellspring to draw from.

MaresNest, Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link

If he even plays Kaze Wo Atsumete, I'd lose my mind. Pleocene and I'd die altogether.

MaresNest, Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link

oooh! thanks for the heads up. just need to find a pal who likes him enough to accompmany me now.

stirmonster, Thursday, 5 April 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

Booked! Can't quite believe this...

bamboohouses, Friday, 6 April 2018 09:06 (six years ago) link

i sprung for this too! :D

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 6 April 2018 09:24 (six years ago) link

it's a shame it's a bit of a weird combination of acts though. not that i dislike acetone but i can't really see any connection to hosono other than the record label

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 6 April 2018 09:25 (six years ago) link

wait, i typed the above without really thinking through what i was saying (just for a change)

hosono is on LITA's 'Even A Tree Can Shed Tears' comp, but that's it. wonder if we can read anything more into him appearing at a LITA night? they did say there were "dozens of releases" due in their japan archival series after all:

http://blog.lightintheattic.net/introducing-our-japan-archival-series/

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

jealous of you guys

I almost pulled the trigger on flying to San Fran for that one-off YMO reunion show

frogbs, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link

any idea what he's playing these days? "material across his career" is kind of a funny thing to say about Hosono...imagine saying that about Brian Eno

I'd be really surprised if he does anything electronic. in his RBMA academy interview from a few years ago, he spoke of his more recent 'boogie woogie' style in a way that made it sound something like the culmination of a life's work. like it took him a long time to arrive there & he seemed to be really comfortable & happy making music in this style. so, maybe covers in this mode?

unfortunately, I have little interest in this music myself. I heard what sounded like his new album in a record store a few months ago and it seemed to confirm that this music is not for me. hard to complain when someone has touched so much that I love already tho.

anyway, don't wanna be a debbie downer! I'd absolutely go in a heartbeat if the show were closer!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 6 April 2018 15:23 (six years ago) link

hes got to be one of the only artists whose musical output ventures from 15 years ahead of its time to 80 years behind

I've only heard Hosonova of his most recent stuff. Its fairly pleasant and has a couple really great tracks on it. But yeah, I don't think I'll be listening to it much.

frogbs, Friday, 6 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

An affordable reissue of Paraiso would be most welcome, I'm all for anything that helps that along

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 6 April 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link

LITA putting Haruomi on the cover of their magazine:
https://instagram.com/p/BhxCfILl6kR/

They’ve gotta be up to something right? The Hosono article is a piece by Van Dyke Parks btw and apparently the zine is free at selected indie records shops, but you can read some of it on that insta post in the meantime

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Thursday, 19 April 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

As suspected, IT'S ON.

https://lightintheattic.net/artists/2475-haruomi-hosono

I think this might be Omni Sight Seeing's first time on vinyl? I'll be getting that & Paraiso. I've got an original pressing of Philharmony, and the recent Japan-only vinyl reissues of Cochin Moon and Hosono House. But fantastic to see these records back out there.

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:28 (five years ago) link

very cool! im going to have to pick up Philharmony, i almost pulled the gun on an original release of that a few times. ended up getting (and loving) "Pacific".

also that label as a nice selection of stuff! i want to get Lee Hazlewood's "A Cowboy in Sweden" but apparently it's sold out.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

tempted to get the 3xLP bundle (Paraiso, Philharmony, and Omni)!

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

Philharmony also has, of course, one of the very best covers of all time.

check the high res version here, along with lots of other cool hosono-relevant pics: http://lightintheattic.net/artist_press_images/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&artist_id=2475-haruomi-hosono

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

Fantastic news!

chant down basildon (NickB), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link

not a huge fan of Hosono House but I think I'll be picking up the other 4 on vinyl. he's too important of an artist to me, this is such a big void I have to fill. does anyone know what the 3xLPs are???

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

boom! so happy Omni Sight Seeing is coming on vinyl.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

does anyone know what the 3xLPs are???

tempted to get the 3xLP bundle (Paraiso, Philharmony, and Omni)!

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

I listened to both Philharmony and Paraiso over the last week - so good. I still haven't heard Omni!

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

aha I get it now. the site doesn't really say what they are, I almost thought they were expanded versions. yeah I'll be getting that

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

had totally missed the fact that he's also going to be playing in brighton a couple of nights after the london show, except this time he's the main act:

http://theoldmarket.com/shows/haruomi-hosono/

so i guess i'm seeing him twice next month (sorry)

chant down basildon (NickB), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

I listened to both Philharmony and Paraiso over the last week - so good. I still haven't heard Omni!

Oh man! Such a great record and Pleocene is one of the greatest songs from his post-YMO period.

https://youtu.be/-22NysUDulc?t=41m45s

MaresNest, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

Playing in London next month:

http://33-33.co/mode/

23.06
HARUOMI HOSONO + ACETONE
BARBICAN CENTRE
LONDON

willem, Thursday, 24 May 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link

Money's tight so I've been trying to talk myself out of buying these reissues. I decided to listen to the four albums in the reissue campaign I wasn't as familiar with (Cochin Moon is buy-on-sight for me and has been for years, no way I'm passing up a reissue). I haven't listened to Omni, Philharmony, or Paraiso since I discovered and downloaded them a few years ago, and have never heard Hosono House at all.

Paraiso holds up great, as do the great songs on Omni Sight Seeing (which justify the purchase of the album imo). But not sure what I ever saw in Philharmony. It's by no means a bad record, and is in some places actually quite good (I like "Luminescent / Hotaru" and "Sports Men"), but a lot of this just floats right by me. There are also a few obnoxious ones I could live without ever hearing again ("Platonic"), and stuff like "Birthday Party" and "In Limbo" just remind me why I don't listen to The Residents. That said, I'm a sucker for this stuff, so I know deep down I will probably buy 'em all. LITA always does such a great job on packaging. I don't care a lick about Lee Hazlewood, but I was actually tempted by how nice those reissues looked in the shop.

Am I the only one who really likes Pacific? Wonder if that will ever get a reissue.

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 25 May 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

i love Pacific

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 25 May 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

Omni Sight Seeing is wonderful. Prob my favorite of this trio of albums. I can do with just a little bit of HH's Nino Rota homages, though. I hope someone will reissue "The Tale Of Genji" and "Naga" soon!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 25 May 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link

key track on Philharmony for me is "LDK". such a catchy tune, plus the synth solo is just wild

if you haven't heard it, there's a duo called Kimonos whose cover of "Sportsmen" is absolutely perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gi8futLRbM

frogbs, Friday, 25 May 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

I'm hoping all the Monads get a reissue. I have literally worn my copies out from over playing / over use in dj sets. Also hoping these aren't only being granted a US license for reissue as pre-order is not available outside US.

stirmonster, Friday, 25 May 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

Also hoping these aren't only being granted a US license for reissue as pre-order is not available outside US.

Oh fuck you're right and I hadn't spotted that - Paraioso, Philharmony and Omni Sight Seeing are all saying "Not Available to Customers Outside U.S." - ughhhhhh.....

Cochin Moon and Hosono House are though:

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/4192-cochin-moon-uk-eu-version
https://lightintheattic.net/releases/4191-hosono-house-shipping-for-uk-eu-residents

chant down basildon (NickB), Friday, 25 May 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

Lol pic.twitter.com/qMAZ0uQqOj

— Sam 🧢 (@fuiud) March 26, 2018

flopson, Friday, 25 May 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link

One of life’s little surprises

F# A# (∞), Friday, 25 May 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

that would suck to have been soooo close to collaborating on a legendary album, and the reason you didn't was diarrhea, plain and simple

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 25 May 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

London this eve, so excited for this.

MaresNest, Saturday, 23 June 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link

Fantastic! Enjoy and report back, please :)

willem, Saturday, 23 June 2018 10:43 (five years ago) link

TROPICAL DANDY WHEN

J. Sam, Saturday, 23 June 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

got mixed up and thought it was tomorrow. only twigged a couple hours ago thanks to an fb alert, or else I’d have travelled up to the barbican tomorrow instead. but yes, excited!

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

I realise Acetone must have their fans who are probably just as excited but idg the running order, it's like going to see Joni Mitchell supporting Built To Spill or something.

MaresNest, Saturday, 23 June 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link

holyyyy shiiiit!!

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

way too excited after that to watch acetone, i only lasted one song

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

full report, please.

stirmonster, Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link

okay so five piece band including upright bass player, haruomi on acoustic guitar. start off pretty loungey, not really what I was truly hoping for but it was very charming and nice. then they started swinging with some ‘boogie-oogie-oogie’ and it all started to get quite rock’n’roll and you realised just how good his band was. was getting super into it by that stage, just a really nice vibe. lounge cover of ‘radioactivity’! a great rock’n’roll version of ‘sportsmen’! and then at the end, hosono asks for the house lights to be switched on and he calls for his friend takahashi to join him from the audience. and then they start playing a rock’n’roll ‘absolute ego dance’ (correct me if I’m wrong there maresnest). and then halfway through, ryuichi wanders on stage and seizes partial control of the keyboards. absolutely start banging through the song, screech to a halt, crowd go fucking batshit, then off the go, no encore or anything and everyone’s just rubbing their eyes wondering wtf just happened

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

they all look in great shape btw, yukihiro was looking particularly suave in a suit and v dapper hat

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

wow, just wow! thanks.

stirmonster, Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link

Photo here (not my account)

Midway through a bit of YMO the man himself Ryuichi Sakamoto walks on stage to goose the keyboardist, crowd explodes. pic.twitter.com/DKm70CKFba

— JAM (@JAMXCORE) June 23, 2018

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

and then at the end, hosono asks for the house lights to be switched on and he calls for his friend takahashi to join him from the audience. and then they start playing a rock’n’roll ‘absolute ego dance’

wtf!? no! that's amazing!

and then halfway through, ryuichi wanders on stage and seizes partial control of the keyboards. absolutely start banging through the song, screech to a halt, crowd go fucking batshit, then off the go, no encore or anything and everyone’s just rubbing their eyes wondering wtf just happened

wtf?!?! no!! that's amazing!!

that must have been a dream, holy shit

Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 June 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

so thrilling! I’m still a gibbering wreck

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

poor quality clip here:

YMO再々再?生!!!!!!!! in London #YMO #yellowmagicorchestra #細野晴臣 #坂本龍一 #高橋幸宏 #barbicancentre #london #hosonoharuomi #ryuichsakamoto #yukihirotakahashi pic.twitter.com/EJxBNkZl8X

— Andrei Tarkovsky (@TarkovskyJP_bot) June 23, 2018

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Saturday, 23 June 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link

Fuuuuck I’m jealous

frogbs, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

Everything NickB said basically, plus we got Keigo Oyamada on guitar for the last song, gotta admit it took me a few seconds to realise it was Absolute Ego Dance, I thought it was Cosmic Surfing at first.

The music was very much in the vein of the last two HH records, fifties rock n' roll, rockabilly feel, with his versions of Sports Men and Radioactivity, a great band indeed, young guys.

I think Light In The Attic saying in the blurb to the concert that he was going to be playing music from throughout his career was somewhat disingenuous, but it was great to see the man and of course, the last song was lush. Watching Yuki walk down the Barbican steps right towards me was a real giddy moment.

Yesterday I saw a pic taken from Instagram of the three of them allegedly in a London restaurant (Sakamoto played here a few days ago with Alvo Noto) so I was hoping that something was gonna go down.

One last thing, my mate's friend that we bumped into works in a record shop, he told us Oyamamda dropped in there and bought loads of Madness 7 inches :)

MaresNest, Saturday, 23 June 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link

that's amazing!

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 24 June 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link

finding it hsrd to comprehend how acetone managed to follow on from that!

stirmonster, Sunday, 24 June 2018 03:55 (five years ago) link

Hosono: https://i.imgur.com/ydBgTfA.jpg

Couldn't believe it when he asked the house lights to come up, and Takahashi and Cornelius stood up from the audience and starting coming down the steps towards the stage.

That rockabilly / boogie-woogie version of Sportsmen really worked. Not sure if there any of clips on it online. The Kraftwerk cover too.

As others have said, it felt too soon for Acetone to be starting after just a 15 minute break or so. Everyone was very excited after that ending to Hosono. Only about 30 - 40% of the crowd came back in for Acetone unfortunately, and some more left after a song or too. The band commented on how quiet it was on stage. Their performance was great, it's a pity the running order meant the place was less than half full.

plazzTT, Monday, 25 June 2018 07:29 (five years ago) link

Hosono band was:

Haruomi Hosono (vocals, guitar)
Ren Takada (guitar, mandolin, banjo)
Wataru Iga (bass)
Daichi Ito (drums)
Takuji Nomura (keyboards, piano, accordian)

plazzTT, Monday, 25 June 2018 08:05 (five years ago) link

where I was sitting there were quite a few japanese people, including families with kids, and a lot of them didn’t stick around for acetone.

trying to remember some of the things that harry said: ‘I used to make techno music, but now...’ *launches into another boogie-woogie number*; the Kraftwerk cover was introduced by some words about 3/11, 2011, which was of course the date of the tohoku earthquake and tsunami

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 25 June 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link

am immensely lucky to be seeing him again in Brighton tonight btw. headlining this time, but another ymo get together would be way too much to hope for

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 25 June 2018 08:53 (five years ago) link

Maybe he'll bust out some older numbers given that he has a bigger window to play in.

MaresNest, Monday, 25 June 2018 09:47 (five years ago) link

from the running times it looks like he's on for two hours, so i guess it depends on how bad he needs to boogie-woogie-oogie

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

wow this is amazing!!

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

Just noticed Takahashi is in Brighton! Did you get a replay of Saturday Nick?

MaresNest, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

yes, takahashi was in the audience again last night but sadly he didn't join hosono on stage this time round. set was a similar mix of lounge/brazilian/jump blues/boogie woogie type stuff, think i enjoyed it even more this time round though - was nice to see that music being played in a much more intimate setting, i think it suited the scale of the music better. also it was a really lovely warm night by the seaside, made me think of how some of the older songs would have originally been taken round the world by boat, from one noisy port to another. hosono seemed to be enjoying himself despite some minor crackily guitar issues, was joking around saying stuff like 'i'm old... i'm boring...' *crowd make sounds of gentle protestation* '...leave me alone'. 'radio activity' cover was really great, done slowly with this eerie, creeping sense of unease, which got ratcheted up to slint-esque levels of tension towards the end. encore was a version of 'tokio rush' featuring two girls on vocals that apparently he'd only just met earlier that day - they did an amazing job but all the same it was no 'absolute ego dance'. a great night though!

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 10:54 (five years ago) link

here's the setlist btw:

From aya_bebop on Instagram pic.twitter.com/skgGVMjkDN

— callie magic orchestra (@konchugun) June 26, 2018

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link

Amazing! Tokyo Rush too!

It's been really curious having these legendary old gentlemen, whom I admire so much, in our relative airspace for a few days, to me at least, they seem to exist in another plane the rest of the time. Seeing things like Takahashi wandering around London and Brighton via FB has been lovely.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 11:49 (five years ago) link

indeed, a thrill to briefly exchange respiratory gases with them!

that 'house of blue lights' was fire btw, that's the one where the band took solos - a few bars of brilliant splashy fireworks from the drummer, the bass player forced to go deep when hosono pulled up a chair and sat and watched him work. good excuse to revisit this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeHTFlkBBcM

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

I love that clip, talk about someone who has figured out how to live.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link

kinda love how Keigo Oyamada has been palling around with these guys for over a decade now. that's one cool thing about Japan, it's such a small country geographically so all these people kinda know each other. I recognize some of those names upthread as having played with YT in a different group.

I've heard that there are some plans for YMO's 40th anniversary year, including perhaps a HH documentary. apparently some of the concertgoers were being interviewed outside the venue. couldn't buy that fast enough.

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link

The Barbican gig was being filmed, very discreetly but there were notices saying so.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link

Happy 71st Birthday!

MaresNest, Sunday, 8 July 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

Lookit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QtNpj_n82o

MaresNest, Sunday, 15 July 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link

Haha that's even shonkier than I remember it

Category: Animist Rock (Matt #2), Sunday, 15 July 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

Not sure which is the best thread to post this on as there's a few YMO ones to choose from. Anyway, I just listened to Parallelisme by Miharu Koshi for the first time and I am blown away. One of the best albums I've heard with a connection to the YMO family. My heart is breaking checking the prices for it on Discogs.

kitchen person, Saturday, 28 July 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link

From time to time copies of the Dutch version surface at a less painful price. It's an incredible album; some of the synth sounds still sound like they come from the future. IMO, one of thee greatest techno pop albums of all time. "Tutu" is eternal too.

stirmonster, Saturday, 28 July 2018 05:49 (five years ago) link

I'll keep an eye out for it. I bought Tutu a long time ago and really enjoyed it, but weirdly I never listened to any of her other albums until a few days ago.

kitchen person, Saturday, 28 July 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link

I think Boy Soprano is the best of those. The version of Ave Maria gives me chills.

frogbs, Saturday, 28 July 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

Just sold all my Koshi stuff on Discogs. I hope the person(s) who get them will appreciate how amazing those records are.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 July 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

Her cover of "l'amour toujours" is one of my favorite tracks ever. Pretty sure the telex guys guest on it too!

brimstead, Saturday, 28 July 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link

Y'all probably know Good Morning Mr Echo, but the whole record is lovely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06HcFuiHWZ4

MaresNest, Saturday, 28 July 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

Toop piece on Hosono:

https://thevinylfactory.com/features/david-toop-on-haruomi-hosono/

I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Thursday, 2 August 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link

great interview. I don't think I've ever read one with him. he seems like a very thoughtful person, not that I would expect anything less. really looking forward to those vinyl reissues - there's not a whole lot of artists where I feel I *have* to own something on vinyl by them but Hosono is definitely one of them

Speaking of the Swing Slow album, anyone heard this '95 one-off by a group called LOVE, PEACE, & TRANCE? its a group consisting of Hosono, a member of dip in the pool, one from Wha-Ha-Ha, and another I haven't heard of. It sounds to me like Quiet Lodge, but with singing of course. It's very ethereal and otherworldly in a way that only Hosono can really pull off. The whole thing is worth listening to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQEX3E_VJQc

frogbs, Thursday, 2 August 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

also I must point out that their visual aesthetic is the sort of thing that someone on the Orange Milk roster would kill for, these days. ahead of their time I guess ;)

frogbs, Thursday, 2 August 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

love that record, it's so new age. I wish they did more!

the artwork has each member represented by "love," "peace," and so on. hosono is "&" lol

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

there's a red bull music academy video interview from a few years ago out there. it's def kinda awkward tho.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

https://litapodcast.simplecast.fm/haruomi-hosono

LITA Podcast with a short interview with the man during his UK visit, it bothers me that one of the guys who is putting so much time and effort and money into reissuing his catalogue in the west hasn't yet taken two minutes to figure out how to say his name correctly.

When asked if he had any personal favourites from his back catalogue he replied Philharmony and Omni Sight Seeing, yes!

MaresNest, Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

...it bothers me that one of the guys who is putting so much time and effort and money into reissuing his catalogue in the west hasn't yet taken two minutes to figure out how to say his name correctly.

Typical.

That's awesome he chose those two.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

Looking forward to reading this piece by Andy B
https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3287

willem, Friday, 17 August 2018 08:13 (five years ago) link

Not sure when this happened, but the Monad albums plus SFX and Nokto have just popped up on Spotify in the UK. As far as I can tell, they're not on any of the other streaming services, at least not outside Japan. Everyone in this thread probably has them, but thought it was worth noting!

bamboohouses, Sunday, 19 August 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link

Also, on the reissues, it looks like only Hosono House and Cochin Moon are getting released internationally. Paraiso, Philharmony and Omni-Sightseeing are all US only. Any leads as to where I can get Paraiso and Omni in the UK without paying eye-watering postage fees from the US most welcome!

bamboohouses, Sunday, 19 August 2018 09:07 (five years ago) link

Quick heads up - Juno have the US-only titles available in the UK. Nowhere else over here seems to yet!
https://www.juno.co.uk/labels/LITA

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

if only that had gone up the other day before i splurged $50 on vinyl of omni sight seeing from US!

as i type this the coffee shop i am in is playing swing slow!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

actually, with current exchange rate it is probably more or less the same amount buying plus postage from juno. i'd have it much quicker though!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

Loads more Hosono on Spotify in the UK this week. Naga, that Good Sport album (which I've never actually listened to), Archives vol 1: Beyond Good And Evil, along with Swing Slow, all the F.O.E. stuff, the HAT DSP Holiday album and the first two Sketch Show records. Someone's finally cottoned onto the fact that there's an international demand for this stuff.

bamboohouses, Friday, 24 August 2018 12:06 (five years ago) link

hell yes, that's all good stuff

the sudden international popularity of Hosono is encouraging...I wonder what's contributing to that? or was it there all along?

frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

I think it's a lot of trends intersecting. There's been a real slow-burn of interest in Japanese music from that period ever since Spencer Doran did his Fairlights/Mallets/Bamboo mixes at the start of the decade. I think it's reissue culture + Japanese pop culture being v on-trend at the minute + the vaporwave set all taking us to this point. (And the fact that that the music really holds up to scrutiny.)

bamboohouses, Friday, 24 August 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

hah, that could be. I remember an interview where Vektroid said that Ryuichi Sakamoto invented vaporwave on Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia and immediately checking r/vaporwave to see people posting YouTubes of that album like, "uhh guys, have you HEARD this?"

I have noticed a bunch of people messaging me on Slsk with a bunch of interest in groups like Moonriders or P-Model or Denki Groove. never really saw that 5-6 years ago. feels like the Cardiacs thing all over again. better late than never!!

frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link

Perhaps some of the renewed interest can be contributed to Light in the Attic, starting with their 'Even A Tree Can Shed Tears' comp? That one went down really well.

I love that quote about Vektroid! Vaporwave has to do with some of it for sure.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 August 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

(the comp didn't include Hosono obv but it may have kickstarted the new reissues of Hosono House and Cochin Moon)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 August 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link

yea its kind of funny b/c the first time I heard that album I thought "oh it's like Weather Channel music, but it's actually pretty good". little did I know that would become an entire genre...

and of course Hosono is sort of a godfather to the whole Orange Milk vibe - something like Bataille Solaire or Giant Claw sounds like the sort of music Hosono would be making if he was born in say, 1986

frogbs, Friday, 24 August 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link

To be honest my question would be more why it's taken so long - global digger culture has lead to plenty of career renaissances for far more obscure artists from around the globe, and Japanese pop culture has been wildly popular for decades.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 25 August 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

Kanji is pretty much the answer to that question, I would venture.

MaresNest, Saturday, 25 August 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

I'm sure it contributes, though if you take a look at anime and video games fandoms ppl have become very adept at not considering that a stumbling block.

There's also a sort of obliviousness in Japan about international demand for Japanese music - I think it was one of the LITA dudes who talked about having to convince Japanese record execs that comps of Japanese music could sell at all.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 25 August 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

Japan, like France, looks inward culturally, seeks to engage the outside world on its own terms, and its music has enough of an internal market that little need is felt to promote outward. If you want to get to know its culture, as an outsider, you will have to go to it yourself.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 25 August 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

Anime and Gaming are hugely popular by comparison, with scores of people willing to back-translate or write detailed threads/articles about any technical or creative aspect of those spheres, there are next to no people writing in English about the history and nuances of Japanese music and what does exist is largely speculation (like Cope's book, which is bit of a joke)

Not being able to properly translate Kanji yet by automated means, pretty much precludes any occidental person from going from back over it's written history, unless they are prepared to pay or spend years learning it.

You're totally right about Japanese not believing or understanding that Westerners may appreciate their music, even Hosono kinda apologised from the Barbican stage before he sung a song in Japanese.

I once asked the guy behind the counter at Disk Union's bookstore if he knew of any books about Japanese Music in Eigo, he shook his head sadly and looked at me as if I was the biggest, sorriest nerd in the universe.

MaresNest, Saturday, 25 August 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

Is Quit Your Band by Ian Martin any good? I leafed through it in a Kinokuniya in Shibuya earlier this year and it seemed interesting but not in enough depth to be worth a purchase, but that was a quick impression from someone worried about how heavy a suitcase I'd have to bring back.

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 25 August 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

Ian is a really strong writer yeah, he has good taste, lives for the minutiae of the live house scene in Kichijoji and writes really well about Japanese music, you can get it on kindle I think.

MaresNest, Saturday, 25 August 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

i am pretty shocked that moonriders are as unknown as they are considering the tremendous love people (including people here!) have for the earthbound soundtrack.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 August 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

Yeah definitely, or the Beatniks, or P-Model or a bunch of others.

MaresNest, Saturday, 25 August 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link

my japanese teachers were mostly amused that i knew so much old japanese music but one of my professors introduced me to rc succession which was her favorite band back in the day and thought it was cool i was interested

clouds, Saturday, 25 August 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i can't figure out what people love about Pacific. apart from the closing track, i just can't get into it at all. it's muzak lounge exotica, something that sounds interesting to me, conceptually. but in practice it sounds like generic background music for old advertisements? i keep re-listening to it every few months, thinking i'm missing a buried gem. i want to believe

Karl Malone, Monday, 10 September 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

I like it, but I'm sated with the mp3s I downloaded off slsk years ago, it's one of the two reissues I've decided I don't need to buy (House is the other). I also like muzak lounge exotica, and also Pat Metheny, so ymmv

On a more positive note, I had forgotten until listening earlier this week how utterly amazing Omni Sight Seeing is and I think it may replace Cochin Moon as my favorite. Always remembered it as "'Pleocene' and some other cool songs," but "Laugh-Gas," holy shit

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 September 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

I actually love all of Pacific except for the closing track which sounds like it should belong on the Austin Powers soundtrack. It took me a while but amidst the cheese there are some great songs on there... plus the musicianship is sublime. My wife still remains unconvinced however.

millmeister, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link

I really like his cover of "Caravan". I know this is a dumb cliché but his music really does sound wrong in all the right ways.

It's too bad his solo career effectively ended in '96. I mean hard to fault the dude for spending the last 20 years reconnecting with old friends and covering songs from his childhood but I can't help but wonder what would happen if he'd kept active and up to date the way the other YMO guys did.

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

We got a couple of those Light In The Attic reissues at work last week. They look fantastic. They also sent us a few promo CDs to check out. For some reason I'd never got round to Cochin Moon before. What a great album. I'll definitely be picking that one up when it comes in later this month.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

I adore Pacific but Cosmic Surfin is certainly out of place and I definitely prefer the YMO version of it. the album is advertisement background music, but really great background music! Passion Flower is just filled with hook upon hook upon hook

ufo, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link

http://4columns.org/dayal-geeta/haruomi-hosono

stirmonster, Saturday, 22 September 2018 11:52 (five years ago) link

'Cochin Moon' is probably my favorite thing from the extended YMO oeuvre, and one of my very favorite electronic records of all time. Given its total mastery in 1978 of electronics into a distinctively electronic but nearly organic in depth/texture worth (and yet completely purposeful whole, i.e. not just weird bleeps and blorps a la earlier electronic experimentation) I'm surprised it doesn't get more love. The addition of Hosono's enduring trans/pan-cultural exchange--which seeming has a near mainstream currency today--would seem to make it ripe for rediscovery on a slightly scale than whoever bought it at the time + geeks like me who shelled out for Japanese imports over the ensuing decades. To me, it's a really ageless record, and I don't think many would necessarily date it to its point of origin.

Hopefully Pitchfork or some such with large cachet does an ecstatic breathless write-up and gets it a lot more ears ; )

Soundslike, Saturday, 22 September 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

the pictures on this instagram post <3<3<3

https://www.instagram.com/p/BphN6rigS2i/

Herb Achelors (NickB), Monday, 29 October 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link

What are these for, a new TV special?

bamboohouses, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

i wish i knew!

Herb Achelors (NickB), Monday, 29 October 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

Some context!

Haruomi Hosono new album out in January also when Yellow Magic Show 2 will be broadcast on NHK.. https://t.co/eoY1JxnmEo

— Far Side Music (@farsidemusic) October 30, 2018

(apparently, Hosono has a new album in January and the pics are from a TV special broadcasting in Japan on 2nd January)

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:44 (five years ago) link

Thanks, been trying to figure this out as well, you'd think YMO (and related) FB pages would have some sort of an English translation also.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:51 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

the Light in the Attic vinyls look to be all sold out, damn. wonder if they'll repress them.

frogbs, Saturday, 8 December 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

the cds are plentiful and cheap and have pretty extensive booklets

adam, Sunday, 9 December 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link

lol what the hell is this

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/mac-demarco-haruomi-hosono/honey-moon/

frogbs, Friday, 21 December 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link

https://thevinylfactory.com/news/mac-demarco-haruomi-hosono-honey-moon-cover/

this is the context

ufo, Friday, 21 December 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

ah - was thinking of the '93 track from Medicine Lodge

frogbs, Friday, 21 December 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hochono House (a new re-recording of Hosono House) is out 6th March:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/international/8493278/haruomi-hosono-classic-1973-new-album-Hochono-House

A Hosono TV special was broadcast 2nd Jan on NHK in Japan - a few clips have surfaced on Youtube of the YMO performances (see below - with Gen Hoshino!). Anyone got any clues / invites to Asian TV t0rr3nt trackers / links to where one might be able to watch the whole thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpf0uehEJlM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_EnF3xN3CA

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link

Bless yer! I just checked Jpopsuki, nothing come up as yet, will keep an eye out.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

Awesome.

So, This Leaked (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

lmao those clips rule. amazing how in line this is with YMO's sense of humor circa Xoo Multiplies or "Kimi ni Mune Kyun"

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:51 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just took out Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo (something about exceptionally cold days makes me want to listen to it) and holy hell, this music is absolutely haunted. it's got to be the loneliest-sounding record I've ever heard.

frogbs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

I like the version of Pleocene, it's so beautiful

MaresNest, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link

hah incredible, I remember thinking "he's used this melody before" but didn't catch what it was, obviously the clue was in the title

this track gets me every time, it's quite simply one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard. I've never thought of him as a solo piano composer but this is just amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDoOSJnNxn4

frogbs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link

You can watch the whole thing here too, dubbed obviously...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_3SvpTH_pk

MaresNest, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link

The main title theme is also astoundingly beautiful, I even like the crunchy 8-bit percussion samples.

MaresNest, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link

btw I have been listening to his latest album (Vu Ja De) and it's pretty cool. first disc is more boogie-woogie covers (fun, but whatever), while the second is a pretty interesting trawl through the archives, taking a lot of his old stuff and re-doing them in this new/old style. most of it is from collabs and commercials, some of it is either new or just stuff that was in the vaults ("Pecora" sounds like a Endless Talking track). there's a version of "Retort" from Omni Sight Seeing with vocals, you almost don't recognize it at first.

I'm kind of lukewarm on this latest stuff, but this one is very nice. I wonder if he's going to write new music again soon?

frogbs, Monday, 4 February 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link

Have we talked about the Shoplifters soundtrack? It's on Spotify. It's brief (18 mins) but there's shades of his Monad era sound palette. (And the film is an absolute blinder.)

I was a little resistant to the boogie-woogie stuff at first, but it all clicks into place when you start thinking of it as an anthropological study on a non-native music. It's exactly what he was doing with folk music in the 70s - breaking apart trad American forms to study how they work.

Judging by the single, the new Hosono House re-recording sounds like it'll be quite electronic?

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 11:49 (five years ago) link

Also, the new two disc version of Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo is now on Spotify - CD2 is I believe unreleased stuff from the period?

Disc 1: https://open.spotify.com/album/0jonjaeaCQqbwtDXM8T4v3?si=oZg8uRGAQqiM7JmEOSWmFw
Disc 2: https://open.spotify.com/album/7d9h6mAPGTNp8VJrAoDMc7?si=YbnKg1XNQJCZnaY9P31gXQ

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 12:27 (five years ago) link

re: the boogie-woogie stuff, yeah i see it as part of their overarching omnivorous stylistic synthesis.. in the same way that many of their tunes (sakamoto's especially) bring to mind actual early 20th century tin pan alley stuff

brimstead, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:50 (five years ago) link

just by browsing the 30 sec samples the second disc sounds like a bunch of alternate versions of pieces from the original soundtrack, plus some Endless Talking remixes (track 10 is "Birdoj")

obviously, I have to have it (I don't use Spotify), but I'm not really sure how

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

Not sure where you're based, frogbs, but Farside are selling the CDs in the UK:
http://www.farsidemusic.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=hosono%20nokto&PN=CD%2ehtml#SID=257?a1_21FSD7454

bamboohouses, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 09:35 (five years ago) link

Hey thanks! My search for the 2cd turned up empty yesterday.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 09:59 (five years ago) link

I'm seeing something about a new album and US dates too?

MaresNest, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 12:24 (five years ago) link

Ha yeah that is pretty odd. That new version of 薔薇と野獣 sounds pretty neat though. So clean and loungy.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 12:28 (five years ago) link

are those the original vocals?

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 14:34 (five years ago) link

Exclaim says:

The newly imagined album will feature Hosono rearranging, recording and restructuring the songs of his '73 solo effort, with the musician playing all the instruments himself, as well as producing, engineering and mixing the record.

For a taste of that, you can hear "Bara To Yaju (new ver.)" down below, which takes the familiar track in some very newfound directions.

This is the new cover apparently:

https://exclaim.ca//images/hosono_3.jpg

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 14:48 (five years ago) link

we discussed this a few years ago (lol), but this deserves to be discussed some more. this is still my favorite thing i've heard from hosono (although i know i've only scratched the surface):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34UutDrXV2Q

the first two of the three tracks (up to about 30 minutes) is music commissioned to be played in Muji stores in Japan in the mid-80s, although apparently they never played it in-store. the third track, is from a muji compilation.

more here: http://filmstatic.blogspot.com/2017/09/rediscovering-haruomi-hosonos-watering.html

i was reminded of it because i one of the new vampire weekend songs samples it heavily

Karl Malone, Sunday, 10 February 2019 06:28 (five years ago) link

the original cassette can be yours for only $450!

https://www.discogs.com/%E7%B4%B0%E9%87%8E%E6%99%B4%E8%87%A3-%E8%8A%B1%E3%81%AB%E6%B0%B4/release/7890029

apparently it came with an 80-page book!!

https://i.imgur.com/psckQjz.jpg

Karl Malone, Sunday, 10 February 2019 06:37 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQSzyhfd9dI

sorry to bump this thread again but Hosono's cover of "Asatoya Yunta" is some of the most magical shit I've ever heard. Hosono sounds like he's singing backwards!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 03:58 (five years ago) link

just discovered the Vampire Weekend sample, that is incredible. props to them for that.

by the way KM - that vid you linked (the "Watering a Flower" album) has probably the best comment section I've ever seen on YouTube

frogbs, Thursday, 7 March 2019 23:06 (five years ago) link

heh, I took it more like an act of personal violence against me!

surprised the new record hasn't been discussed yet. I'll admit I'm grading on a curve here but it's better than I was expecting. (hosono house was never one of my favorites, I'm not too into hosono's "boogie woogie" era in general, it's been a while since his peak era, etc.) some of it has a real uncool old man groove to it that reminds me of late donald fagen solo albums or something. not bad.

the shoplifters OST otoh, that initially struck me as quite slight, esp while watching the movie, like it was barely there. but there is some gorgeous stuff on here even if it's often frustratingly short. I love "going to the sea." the whole album sounds a bit like a small ensemble playing bits of monad era compositions live to me.

also -

the first two of the three tracks (up to about 30 minutes) is music commissioned to be played in Muji stores in Japan in the mid-80s, although apparently they never played it in-store.

I think that the "found muji" stores do play hosono's bgm. the one I went to did, anyway. it works well!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, 9 March 2019 21:18 (five years ago) link

Love the "Shoplifters" OST very much despite its brevity

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 10 March 2019 01:42 (five years ago) link

new/old record "Hochono House" is a delight. its a lot more interesting than the original - the arrangements here are so clever. it sort of matches the cover art - "coloring over" an old work of art, bringing it up to date, though not quite.

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:07 (five years ago) link

It's great isn't it? Good call on the 'colouring over', that's exactly what it sounds like.

I wonder what it must have felt like to go over it again like this after so many years. Anyone seen any recent interviews around?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

the first two of the three tracks (up to about 30 minutes) is music commissioned to be played in Muji stores in Japan in the mid-80s, although apparently they never played it in-store.

I think that the "found muji" stores do play hosono's bgm. the one I went to did, anyway. it works well!

― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Saturday, March 9, 2019 3:18 PM (five days ago)

you're right! my copy of the new Kankyō Ongaku comp from Light in the Attic just came in the mail, and it closes with original bgm! it's so nice to be able to put it on the record player and let it play for 16 minutes. the liner notes mention someone hearing it in a Muji store back in 1983, so you must be right! the liner notes also mentioned that Hosono later reworked the piano melody into this song from his 1984 album S-F-X:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-wtudBuq3g

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Friday, 15 March 2019 00:33 (five years ago) link

^^ which is AMAZING.

Waiting patiently (...) for my copy of Kankyō Ongaku to arrive!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 15 March 2019 00:58 (five years ago) link

ah, nice to hear they were played out in the 80s. those muji tracks are almost too perfect to be ambient music to shop to... but them being ambient music to shop to makes them even more perfect. I picture supermarket aisles myself. (muji started as a supermarket or something, right?)

no mention of the US shows? NY and LA! I'm keeping my expectations grounded in the boogie woogie zone but sakamoto joining for the NY set seems within the realm of possibility...

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 15 March 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link

why does ryuchi trend in the indie art miasma but not hosono. Is it the hair?

57mg/20floz, Saturday, 16 March 2019 10:49 (five years ago) link

Much less obvious connections to western artists, tended towards nurturing and collaborating with Japanese artists.

MaresNest, Saturday, 16 March 2019 13:18 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Is this the place to discuss this new LITA comp?

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Pacific-Breeze-Japanese-City-Pop-AOR-Boogie-1976-1986/master/1539822

The city pop thread doesn't seem to get a lot of traffic.

Sounds fantastic so far. If nothing else I'm very happy to finally have an affordable copy of Hiroshi Sato's "Say Goodbye" (though I still wish someone would reissue that This Boy comp)

Revelation for me so far: Minako Yoshida's "Midnight Driver." Such a jam!

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:28 (five years ago) link

yoshida's monochrome album is really great.

visiting, Thursday, 2 May 2019 20:35 (five years ago) link

Just ordered this last night. I only know Drip Dry Eyes and Sports Men which are both absolutely perfect. Very excited to hear the rest.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 May 2019 04:13 (five years ago) link

Excited for this

calstars, Friday, 3 May 2019 07:45 (five years ago) link

been wanting a copy of LA Night for ages, best song ever

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 12:28 (five years ago) link

yea I'm in the same boat as KP, if anything on the comp is as good as either of those I'll consider it money well spent

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link

I'm familiar with maybe half that compilation, agree that Sports Men is perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9M-F2WB6nI

the Seaside Lovers album that "Sun Bathing" is from is really lovely - it's cheesy but i adore this sort of smooth beach music

ufo, Friday, 3 May 2019 13:44 (five years ago) link

oh 'i thought it was you' is on it too - love that one as well, those drums kill me

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 13:59 (five years ago) link

oh wait i'm getting confused by the LITA 'Pacific Breeze' spotify playlist which has a bunch of different tracks on it
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1MuAHiy0n7158rCXN2hHjm

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link

FYI - LITA actually is pressing more copies of Paraiso, remastered by Yoshinori Sunahara (of Denki Groove fame)

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/4913-paraiso

the price is steep but as they say, "fuck it"

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link

oh shit i'd forgotten just how majestic the drums vs. vocoder blaze-up is at the end of 'i thought it was you'. godlike!

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link

that thing that funk records do where they just jam on for 3-4 minutes after the song's over is the coolest thing, I wish more genres would try stuff like that

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link

ha yes!

i really need to get on those friends of earth records don't i?

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Friday, 3 May 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link

At $45 it's stretching what I'd normally pay for a single lp, but I had to order the 'Seaside Lovers' LP as well ;_;

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 May 2019 09:34 (five years ago) link

it's one of the three or so albums I'd actually pay that much for

frogbs, Monday, 6 May 2019 13:29 (five years ago) link

https://www.forcedexposure.com/App_Themes/Default/Images/product_images/close_up/w/WWSCD018CD_CU.jpg

Akiko Yano's brilliant 'Irohani-Konpeitou' is being reissued! Always think of this record - though not her debut - as her 'The Kick Inside'. It's so brazen and playful, with melodies to melt away to.

And speaking of: that article mentioned the reissue of 'Tadaima' last year, and that completely passed me by. Anyone bought it? Is it good?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

This album, Tadaima, Gohan Ga Deki Tayo and Ai Ga Nakuchane are all of them great, Great records. Buy 'em all.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

there's some merit to that LBI - as far as I know, the songs on I-K were written before those on Japanese Girl

always felt this one was a bit weaker than the surrounding albums (though I love track 5 "Ike Yanagida"), still will probably buy it for the sleeve alone, one of my favorite album covers ever

btw Oesu Oesu is another good one - it took a bit to sink in but I've come to see it as one of her best and most representative albums. after that she kinda got mired in that cycle of dated production/back-to-basics, though shes always a joy to listen to

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

I actually like this album from 1986 best: https://www.discogs.com/Akiko-Yano-峠のわが家/master/254757

Definitely slick mid 80s rock production there. Steve Ferrone on drums!

brimstead, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

I bought the Tadaima reissue. I'm really happy with it as the artwork and sound quality are spot on. I saw they did Japanese Girl a couple of months ago. I should pick that up.

I still have hope that someone will reissue some of the Miharu Koshi albums at some point. I saw a copy of Parallelisme come up on Discogs for $75 and I really was tempted.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link

particularly Boy Soprano, which I think is about as good as anything else mentioned in this thread. the version of "Ave Maria" is such a stunner, I can't do anything while it's playing

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link

I'm a huge fan of 'Honto No Kimochi', a latter-day Akiko Yano rekkid, very beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHDUZMjnvs8

MaresNest, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

there's some merit to that LBI - as far as I know, the songs on I-K were written before those on Japanese Girl

I did not know that.

Thanks for that vid MaresNest, I'm still to discover her latter day records, this sounds great.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link

yeah this is really nice. I'm currently digging her '92 solo piano record "Super Folk Song", though I think a lot of those songs are covers. at least one of 'em I swear is a Moonriders tune, though Akiko sorta makes everything her own so it's hard to tell

poking around YT...she definitely returned to weirdo technopop at some point. I think is from 2014.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlYe-p_XChU&list=RDXAbjxBtESs0

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

Listen, I like creative design and all, but LITA can fuck right off with this:

http://i.imgur.com/IND19Uj.jpg

Trying to read that circle one is anger inducing.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

I frequently realize that what I love about YMO+ is slightly adjacent to what you all love. You might find this record interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiGeyJeBXcc

I ran the description through Google Translate and it says that Hosono was an 'advisor' (mistranslation?) on this album. It has the mark of Hosono.

Hideki Matsutake, the 'unofficial' (crucial) 4th member of YMO, deserves his own S&D thread. That's a DEEP rabbit hole.

3×5, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

BTW the above record is from '82, not '84, putting it closer to YMO's glory days.

3×5, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

I frequently realize that what I love about YMO+ is slightly adjacent to what you all love

would be curious for your elaboration on this!

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

also, i really like that last track

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

I bought the first YMO record, on yellow vinyl, 25 years ago. I was 14 and that record changed my life. I knew, right away, the impact YMO had on Japanese music because I could hear it in SNES and Sega soundtracks.

Part of they key to that early YMO sound is extensive programming of the Roland Microcomposer, the first digital, programmable sequencer. So while YMO weren't the first electronic pop band, they were the first to release computer-programmed pop. They're not 'loopy' or repetitive like Kraftwerk or other contemporaries.

The YMO sound I love is loungy, self-referentially Japanese, and predates MIDI and sample-based drum machines. When ILX goes into YMO deep-dives, they tend to go further into the 80s, but all the great material, YMO and related, happens from '77 to '81.

3×5, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

A couple of years back some friends and myself made a little internet radio show of Japanese Music for a little internet station for a few years, we did almost 70 editions, went pretty deep down some rabbit holes during that period and I'm pretty sure there wasn't one episode that passed without having a member of YMO (including Yanno and Matsutake) having a hand in some track, particularly Hosono, it fast became a running joke.

MaresNest, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

A couple of years back some friends and myself made a little internet radio show of Japanese Music for a little internet station for a few years

there are no little internet radio shows, only little internet people

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

Yep, lol, Maresnest + Monkey 47 Gin + ILM access = redundancy

MaresNest, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

that show was pretty great...discovered a lot of neat stuff through there

I remember a question on some message board about who would be the "Kevin Bacon" in the music biz, the one person you could connect to virtually any artist via a few steps...my answer was Ryuichi Sakamoto

amusingly, P-Model (Japan's OTHER great technopop band) appears to have no connection whatsoever

frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

No connection to YMO, at all? Hmmm damn

MaresNest, Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

unless you wanna get really tenuous - the producer of In a Model Room was the keyboard player for Plastics, which later splintered into Melon, who did an album with Snakeman Show, which appeared on Xoo Multiplies

what have I been doing with my life

frogbs, Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

I remember a question on some message board about who would be the "Kevin Bacon" in the music biz, the one person you could connect to virtually any artist via a few steps...my answer was Ryuichi Sakamoto

i always thought this might be brian eno. in sakamoto's case it would be

eno ----> bowie <---- sakamoto

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

A couple of years back some friends and myself made a little internet radio show of Japanese Music for a little internet station for a few years

The interview you did with Chris Mosdell (YMO lyricist) was most revealing iirc.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link

I'm the dummy here probably but I need to ask: what show was it?!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

Matt it was Peter Barakan! I should have tracked down Mosdell too actually

MaresNest, Friday, 17 May 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link

Not at all LBI, it's all here - https://www.mixcloud.com/japanalternativesessions/

MaresNest, Friday, 17 May 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah sorry, anyway I enjoyed his YMO-arguing-in-the-studio stories very much!

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Friday, 17 May 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

Thanks MaresNest, that looks amazing! I've got 69 episodes to enjoy :)

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 17 May 2019 11:38 (four years ago) link

Ah, yr welcome, if there's anything in there you like but have trouble tracking down hmu.

MaresNest, Sunday, 19 May 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, but Hosono still has a weekly radio show called Daisy Holiday every Sunday on Tokyo's InterFM. It's quite chatty (not so good for non-Japanese speakers like me) but it's pretty cheerful.

I've finally managed to jump through the various VPN hoops needed to stream Japanese radio outside Japan (most of the big stations stream through one site, Radiko, which is locked down unbelievably strongly) and have started recorded episodes and putting them into a Google Drive folder. I'm also recording Towa Tei's show on J-Wave, and will be recording Sakamoto's bi-monthly show there too.

If anyone wants access, send me an email through the board and I'll add you to the folder.

bamboohouses, Monday, 20 May 2019 06:31 (four years ago) link

Also, would it be worth starting a new thread specifically for reissues of Japanese records and compilations? There's been a ton of them in the last year or so, with a load more on the way...

bamboohouses, Monday, 20 May 2019 06:38 (four years ago) link

daisy holiday playlists

visiting, Monday, 20 May 2019 06:52 (four years ago) link

Oh fantastic, thanks for this!

bamboohouses, Monday, 20 May 2019 08:25 (four years ago) link

Also, would it be worth starting a new thread specifically for reissues of Japanese records and compilations? There's been a ton of them in the last year or so, with a load more on the way...

― bamboohouses

Seems warranted. RA have been repping yet another J-reissue today: Yutaka Hirose's "ambient cult classic", Soundscape 2: Nova

millmeister, Monday, 20 May 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

I'd be up for a Japanese reissue thread!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 May 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ywyx9x/haruomi-hosono-interview-hochono-house?utM_source=noiseyfbus&fbclid=IwAR2nE789niYK0st5S5kZEQEwIyv4VFowTWSj2HvRfDXkkHs357XtsQPBQoI

Are you still interested in experimenting with new technology? It does seem like this new album manages to inject these old-fashioned songs with a more modern edge.
Yeah, there are all kinds of things I want to do. With boogie-woogie now, I've been doing it for about 10 years. But I want to do something new again now, and I'm currently lining up the equipment for it.

Looking back on all the different kinds of music you’ve worked on over the years, what do you think you’re the most proud of?
Let's see, among my solo albums, I like Philharmony and omni Sight Seeing, and...let's see…I forgot the rest [laughs]. I've done too many things. I've been doing this for 50 years, so I don't think about my own work that much.

"doing something new again" is a pretty exciting phrase isn't it

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

Very exciting indeed!!

MaresNest, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:06 (four years ago) link

Thirded! Nice interview, he comes across as such a sweet man.

I clicked through on the YT link for 'Pacific' in that interview, and it's got more than 1m views! That's quite a lot isn't it? How did that one get to these numbers? (Philharmony is at 390.000-ish, Omni not even 200.000)

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link

Japanese views, I guess, they were huge weren't they?

MaresNest, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

Well, yeah :) Suppose it's probably just that, was wondering it it had been used for something or other.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link

Sorry yeah, stating the obvious really :) I'd bet there are millions of middle-aged, natsukashii salarymen for whom YMO and its components are still completely beloved.

MaresNest, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

Pacific has 1100+ ratings on RYM, far more than any other album he was involved with. I think its sort of a "Plastic Love" situation (one comment even calls it "YouTube-core").

frogbs, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

I'm surprised that Pacific wasn't one of the albums that Light In The Attic chose to reissue last year. It does seem to be his most well known album.

kitchen person, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

well, its a split LP - Hosono only wrote 3 tracks for it. from the interview:

I have no recollection of it [laughs]. It was an album project by Sony that gathered a bunch of different people—I was only called in to do it. But I've never listened to it much after making it.

frogbs, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

I really hope LITA gets around to reissuing Tropical Dandy, imo the best of his exotica-era records.

J. Sam, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

I prefer Bon Voyage Co., if only for the ending of "Tokyo Shyness Boy" - Hosono's scat singing is one of the most (unintentionally?) hilarious things I've ever heard on an LP

https://youtu.be/F4bQLRO7WF4?t=1m50s

frogbs, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://i.imgur.com/HOYCUSG.jpg

finally got my hands on this guy

they must've remastered it. it's louder and crisper. sounds great on the hi-fi. cranked it up and let the synth craziness on the title track rattle the walls...totally worth the most-I've-ever-paid-for-an-LP price

frogbs, Friday, 28 June 2019 02:40 (four years ago) link

beautiful cover too

clouds, Friday, 28 June 2019 07:37 (four years ago) link

72 years old today

I uh "celebrated" by getting the second disc of the Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo soundtrack on Japan iTunes. mostly remixes of the first disc but whatever, I love it anyway

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

Is it weird I prefer Hochono House to Hosono House?

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

nah, that was kind of the point of him making it

I do too

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

Alternative 3 is quite something isn't it. This guy!

Invisible (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

The main theme of Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo is so wonderful.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

the whole album makes me feel like I got left on the moon or something. there are more moments on it that give me chills than any other album I can think of.

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/b1/ab/d5b1abde40634df42380ca11f93a154f.jpg

Happy birthday, Mr. Hosono!

How are those remixes frogbs?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

I thought the second CD was more cues and variations on the title, no?

I do love the Pleocene adapted theme too.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdybb52ejd8

caught one of the NYC shows a month or two ago. I'm not a huge fan of the boogie woogie stuff, but I must say, he really sold it live. total pros, great vibe. and akiko yano came out for one of the encores! that ruled.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

second disc is basically alternate versions of most of the album's themes - faster tempos, different instruments, stuff like that. one of them is a take on "Birdoj" from Endless Talking which confirms my suspicion that it was written for the soundtrack. the last 4 tracks are previously unheard compositions I think, one of which has a choir. last track is sort of a disco thing, it's hilariously weird

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

you can get Cochin Moon on LP for the relatively low price of $22 + shipping, this thing will probably sound incredible on my hi-fi

all I need is Omni Sight Seeing now and I'll be happy

frogbs, Friday, 26 July 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

Just picked up the Seaside Lovers album which was mentioned on here a couple of months ago. Such a gorgeous sound.

I've been going back to the Pacific Breeze compilation a lot. My only (very old school) complaint is that it doesn't come with a download code. I'd like to have it on my iTunes as that's still what I use when I'm out and about. Light In The Attic could have thrown one in as it's not like the record was exactly cheap!

kitchen person, Friday, 26 July 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

If you love Seaside Lovers (which is perfect), do try and track down the whole series, there were six SIR albums (easy to find on youtube):

Sound Image Series:

[1978.06.21] Pacific
[1978.11.21] NEW YORK
[1979.06.01] the AEGEAN SEA (エーゲ海)
[1983.xx.xx] ISLAND MUSIC
[1983.xx.xx] OFF SHORE
[1983.05.21] SEASIDE LOVERS 〜 MEMORIES IN BEACH HOUSE

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 29 July 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

KM - have you heard The Endless Talking & Coincidental Music yet? it just occurred to me that anyone fascinated by the Muji in-store tape should check out both those albums immediately.

frogbs, Friday, 16 August 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

no, and no! i know nothing about them! if it's anything like the Muji tape, it would make for excellent working music. I will seek them out today.

I owe you $1 million bux for all YMO-related tips through the years, thank you

Z S - Amazon FC Ambassador (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

the cover of The Endless Talking looks like joan miro, nice

Z S - Amazon FC Ambassador (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

I have PayPal, you know

frogbs, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

do you accept space bux?

Z S - Amazon FC Ambassador (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 August 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

title track on Endless Talking is what "Talking" was based on

Coincidental Music also has this take on it (different melody but still similar)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3fFBe-SpE

that said it's "Memphis, Milano" which is probably my favorite here, which I think was also designed as shopping music

frogbs, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link

and yeah send me your space wallet code

frogbs, Friday, 16 August 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

There's going to be a documentary about Hosono called "No Smoking" to be released in Japan (I think) in November.
Trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqD73BPJm7g&feature=youtu.be

No idea where/when/how we'll see this outside of Japan - if there's any chance it would surely be through Light In The Attic I guess, but unlike the Sakamoto doc a couple of years ago I guess his profile still isn't high enough outside of Japan for an international release?

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

Still haven't seen the Sakamoto doc or its companion "Live At The Armory"(? I think) film. Did they ever make it to home viewing/streaming in the US?

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

this setlist O.o

Day1「細野さんを歌おう!」みんな集まりました!#細野さん50 pic.twitter.com/EqZtrP6ISC

— 細野さん みんな集まりました! (@Hosonosan50) October 11, 2019

frogbs, Friday, 11 October 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

Fucking hell!

Maresn3st, Friday, 11 October 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

OMG!

stirmonster, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

whoa, UA! awesome.

man, hope somebody recorded these...

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Friday, 11 October 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

can we talk about how amazing Omni Sight Seeing is for a minute? had a close listen to it last night and now I think it's one of my very favorites of his. I'm trying to piece together what exactly the overarching theme to all this is, it's the one Hosono disc that doesn't seem to follow a particular theme but there does seem to be an attempt at interpreting music from all over the globe and molding it into a strange little Hosono cube. his lyrics tend to be difficult to understand sometimes which obscures what a crazy trip they can be. Here's Orgone Box:

Cloudy!
Make'm go away
Cloudy!
Let Organe clarify
Looming cloud, feeling sad...
At time like this the plague spreads when Mammom comes
Must gotta go
Gaia quivers
the Earth quakes
You can't win, you must lose
and there's no way out of the game
Orgone is a visible, measurable
and applicable energy of a cosmic nature, douzo....
C..CL..LLOOU...DDDY...
the cloud of words
CLOU...LLOOU..DDY
Let Organe clarify
If we do not expect the unexpected, we will never find it...

What ??!?

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

It *is* amazing and enigmatic!

Maresn3st, Thursday, 7 November 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link

Pretty straightforward once you get to know about Wilhelm Reich:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone

There’s another (rather more famous) song inspired by the same subject matter:

https://youtu.be/pllRW9wETzw

Max Florian, Thursday, 7 November 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

man there is nothing straightforward about that article

frogbs, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link

though lmao @ that Mark Mothersbaugh quote

frogbs, Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

Haruomi Hosono at home just vibing pic.twitter.com/jCalV6NveH

— NTS Radio (@NTSlive) March 25, 2020

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link

O.M.G. <3333

(it suuuuucks that in this day and age a thread bump like this made me think "oh no, plz no corona")

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

haha, what a prince

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:27 (four years ago) link

I love that clip so much, it's been pinging around the net for a while, when he does the taiso knee raises it cracks me up.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link

No end to my love for him. He's the embodiment of people who figured out how to live imo.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

yesssss

J. Sam, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link

he leads by example

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link

Nice!

calstars, Thursday, 26 March 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link

Amazing!

cooldix, Thursday, 26 March 2020 03:09 (four years ago) link

over the last 2 months I have listened to every single Haruomi Hosono album. his catalogue is all over the place and it's not all great but the dude really is on a completely different planet. he has this strange rhythmic sense that you can pick out right away.

frogbs, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link

any new finds from your listening spree?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

frogbs, would totally be into a post about your perspective on HH's catalogue.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:58 (four years ago) link

^^ Seconded!

it's good!

frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2020 14:20 (four years ago) link

*reviews post*

it checks out! :D

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 May 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

obviously I got a lot of scattered thoughts about the man's work, I think he's fairly unique in the way he'll completely latch onto one style for 4-5 years and then just never do anything like it again. maybe Bowie did this, but his catalogue is way more linear than Hosono's is. I break it down like this:

The Early Stuff - including as a member of Apryl Fool (maybe not worth listening to) and Happy End (which definitely is). his first solo album is fine and I am pretty sure one of the only things to come out of Japan in the early 70's that sounded quite like that, but I never found it all that interesting.

The Exotica Period - starting with Tropical Dandy, with each record getting weirder and more electronic up to Paraiso. I think his unique brand of humor starts to show itself here. These records aren't exactly meant to be taken seriously but they're fascinating. Paraiso as I've probably said before is one of my favorite albums ever. Obviously it was a launching point for YMO.

Cochin Moon - there's nothing like this album out there anywhere, even in Hosono's own catalogue. but you can hear his trademark rhythms start to show themselves. sometimes people point to this as a pre-YMO album but none of YMO's stuff really sounds like this (maybe "Hepatitis" could've landed on the self-titled).

The YMO period - from '79 to '83 everything he touches is gold. not just the YMO stuff (including "Gradated Gray" which is my alltime favorite YMO track) but also his solo and collaborative material. only one solo album but he wrote a boatland of stuff for other artists. you almost have to consider those three Miharu Koshi albums Hosono works as well, his fingerprints are all over them. part of the first two Jun Togawa albums too. lots of stuff on those YEN records comps, including a bunch I've probably never heard. Yukihiro Takahashi was also just killin' it during this period.

Non-Standard - for a few years he started releasing hip-hop/electrofunk records, mostly under the "F.O.E. (Friends of Earth)" name. S-F-X is a pretty decent album (particularly "Body Snatchers", which is wild) and the FOE stuff is entertaining, if not particularly great. his cover of Dr. John's "Right Place, Wrong Time" shows his ability to transform any tune into a weird Hosono thing.

Monad - this stuff overlaps with the Non-Standard material, including about half of the S-F-X record. the 5 albums he did in 1985 (Mercurial Dance, Pacific View, Nokto De La Galaskia Fervojo, The Endless Talking, and Coincidental Music) all form a set to my ears. you can include that weird ass "Watering a Flower" tape in there as well. while not all of this is great he really did tap into something ethereal and otherworldly here. I don't know if anyone else was able to make their synthesizers sound as evocative and strange as he did in that period. Some of the music on Endless Talking is downright freaky. That said it's the Nokto De La Galaskia Fervojo soundtrack that's my favorite, "La Gojo" & "La travida malgojo de Giovanni" are two of the prettiest pieces of music I've ever heard in my life

Omni Sight Seeing - I see this 1989 album as sort of a capper to all his 80's stuff, something that attempts to fit everything he'd done in the last few years into a single studio album. It's really incredible, easily one of his very best...unfortunately it's kind of the last real great Hosono solo LP. When I went through his entire catalogue this one stuck out as being the only Hosono album was wasn't really based on a particular theme. Unless you consider astral projection a theme.

The Techno 90's - somewhat based off "Laugh-Gas" from Omni Sight Seeing, Hosono did a handful of electronica records in the 90s, sorta similar to his Monad period. he's using more modern equipment and basing a lot of his stuff off Detroit techno & The Orb, so as a result these records don't quite sound as unique. Medicine Comp & Good Sport are both pretty good, NDE I like but it's missing a layer of melody. There's also an album he did with Bill Laswell which I don't remember much about

Various 90's collabs - including Swing Slow & the criminally unknown Love, Peace, & Trance album, which actually does justice to the cosmic meditative New Age genre that was weirdly popular then. both those albums are better than his actual solo LPs from this time.

Reconnecting with old friends - you could also count Swing Slow here, plus the 2000 Tin Pan album (which is pretty cool, it's half a 'new album' by Tin Pan Alley, half fleshing out old demos). the big thing here is Sketch Show/HASYMO, a partial YMO reunion with Takahashi. I like both those albums. Loophole in particular is special, though I suspect Takahashi was responsible for most of it. That Flying Saucer 1947 album probably fits in here too. His solo career is kind of defunct by this point, it wasn't until 2010 that he recorded under his own name again.

The folk covers of very old pop songs phase - from 2011 until now, I guess. Never connected a whole lot with this stuff even though it's quite pleasant. That said, Vu Ja De is very much worth seeking out, particularly the odds n ends on disc 2. Apparently the Fukushima disaster made him too depressed to record new music, so I see this stuff as being therapeutic in a sense. Of course by this point he's earned the right to do whatever he wants.

frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

! :)

i still haven't given omni sight seeing a listen. at this point i'm kind of saving it for a rainy day because i expect i'll like it quite a bit.

the Swing Slow album is great. it's a little uneven but has a few great songs.

Cochin Moon is my favorite, though. i've been listening to quite a bit of earlier Kraftwerk in the wake of Florian's death, and there are a lot of similarities between Cochin Moon and Kraftwerk's early 70s music, especially on Hepatitis and Hum Ghar Sajan. there's a lovely warm playfulness that pulses through all of it, i love it

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 May 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

at the risk of sounding like a total snob I have the vinyl reissue (which is actually fairly cheap, considering) - that plus some big tower speakers and a little grass is the way to hear it

frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link

you mean for cochin moon? yeah, i'm keeping my eyes peeled for a reasonably priced copy to show up sometime, but in the meantime it sounds good on headphones and spotify, plus 420 forever obviously.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 May 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link

https://lightintheattic.net/artists/2475-haruomi-hosono

LP is now $18. which is very cheap for Hosono. I haven't been able to get anything else for under $40, outside of Hosono House which I'm not too interested in. there's a very cool 'making of' story in the sleeve.

frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link

whoa nice, thanks for the head's up! i will probably pick up Cochin Moon right now then. and yeah, hosono house is also down to $18 but it's not one of my faves

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 May 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link

speaking as a techno loving degenerate the medicine comp is my favorite release of his. I don’t think the straighter beats and structures necessarily make it less unique, it’s still very much Hosono. it hits a propulsive hypnotic vibe that resonates with me a bit more than the rest of his catalog, much of which I also really enjoy (NDE is similarly propulsive and also amazing but does indeed focus more squarely on drums)

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 9 May 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link

just finished listening to the LITA reissue, which arrived at my door this morning. :)

i love the interview they included! i'll excerpt a few parts of it here in a bit

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

ooh, I have Cochin Moon coming in the mail. excited.

last updated a group of five done twelve times ago (geoffreyess), Saturday, 23 May 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.nts.live/shows/haruomi-hosono

just sayin, Thursday, 25 June 2020 09:40 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://i.imgur.com/7Rq7TOz.gif

frogbs, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

Living the dream.

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Google Translate of a recent tweet:

6 solo works by Haruomi Hosono will be released on November 3rd on the record day!
"Vu Ja De" first analog release, "omni Sight Seeing" "MEDICINE COMPILATION" domestic first analog release Sparkles
The cassette book "Hana ni Sui" released in 1984 is a cassette, and "HoSoNoVa" and "Heavenly Music" are analog re-releases. Multiple musical notes
6 works will be released in the US Flag of United States

looks like I'll be dropping some cash on Nov 3

frogbs, Thursday, 20 August 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link

wait... is that this 1984 cassette? https://www.discogs.com/細野晴臣-花に水/release/7890029

brimstead, Thursday, 20 August 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link

phbbbt

https://www.discogs.com/細野晴臣-花に水/release/7890029

brimstead, Thursday, 20 August 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

gah whatever. Watering A Flower, I mean. The shopping background music.

brimstead, Thursday, 20 August 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

Hana = Flower so I assume it's got to be?

if it's a vinyl issue it's gonna sell like nuts, it's got just the right kind of online fame

frogbs, Thursday, 20 August 2020 03:35 (three years ago) link

yeah it'll probably sell out in 5 minutes or something. and then pop up on ebay and discogs on the same day for more $. sigh.

brimstead, Thursday, 20 August 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link

my trigger finger is ready

frogbs, Thursday, 20 August 2020 04:16 (three years ago) link

!!!!

stirmonster, Thursday, 20 August 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

can confirm sui means water

aaaaaaaaahh!!!!

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link

apparently the Watering a Flower reissue is cassette only, kind of disappointing since I don't have a tape player but I guess that's its natural format

fully plan on getting Omni Sight Seeing & Medicine Comp at least. OSS has been a holy grail for a while, I missed the LTiA preorder and they sold out in like a day, now copies are ~$200 on discogs and eBay. fuck that. dunno about the others, Old Man Harry doing covers of WW2-era songs is not super appealing to me but I'll probably get Vu Ja De at least

frogbs, Thursday, 20 August 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

I missed the LTiA preorder and they sold out in like a day, now copies are ~$200 on discogs and eBay

i accidentally ordered 2 and was kicking myself for ages so that makes up for it a bit.

stirmonster, Thursday, 20 August 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

its official...LTiA are handling Omni Sight Seeing and Medicine Comp

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/7091-omni-sight-seeing

They are pricey but LTiA stuff is very high quality & I am positive these will only go up in value. unless the vinyl market crashes, but we all know that's not going to happen ha ha ha

frogbs, Monday, 31 August 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

$100 for 2 LPs, jfc

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

honestly -- UUUGH

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

i get it. i'm happy for the people who can hear the difference. for the rest of us, fuck man

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

love OSS but $50, yeah no way

My CD copy sounds fine

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 31 August 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

It’s just like...don’t they want people to listen to and buy these Hosono records? Why are they doing this?

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

All I’m trying to do is give other people money to listen to their music, I don’t understand why they make that so difficult

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

CD copies are about that expensive too

and tbf Medicine Comp is a double

but yeah LTiA's pricing structure irritates me, a lot of new LPs are $20-22 but the stuff I want will randomly be way more. Cochin Moon was $22 but Paraiso was $45, idk why since the quality on both are similar. the YMO reissues (the 2x45 RPM ones with the pixelated covers) are $90 a pop. maybe this has something to do with the remastering...Paraiso does sound different from my MP3 copy in some noticeable ways, while CM sounds amazing to begin with

frogbs, Monday, 31 August 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

I believe LiTA is handling US distribution but these are produced and manufactured in Japan. A new single LP in Japan is priced at ¥3,700 or approximately ~$35 USD. So $50 for a new Japanese import LP, considering shipping, export costs, handling, etc. is not particularly exploitative.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 31 August 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

$60 for Medecine Comp on 2 x vinyl will translate to around $100 to get it to the UK. :(

Probably much cheaper to buy direct from Japan.

stirmonster, Monday, 31 August 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

xp

that makes sense, but it makes me wonder how did managed to keep costs under $25 for Cochin Moon, the recent Yoshimura Green reissue, and other similar Japanese reissues

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

it's fine, i'm just bummed because i'm a big fan of all this stuff, i want to hear it and support the effort, and i can't even though i'm a grown assed half-man with a job

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

Japanese prices -

OMNI SIGHT SEEING
LP | ¥4,070 (US$38.6)

MEDICINE COMPILATION
2LP | ¥5,500 (US$52.17)

stirmonster, Monday, 31 August 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

that makes sense, but it makes me wonder how did managed to keep costs under $25 for Cochin Moon, the recent Yoshimura Green reissue, and other similar Japanese reissues

Those were in-house productions by LiTA, presumably for the ex-Japan / North America market. For instance, you can see the pricier / earlier Cochin Moon reissue for the Japan market here:
https://www.discogs.com/Haruomi-Hosono-Tadanori-Yokoo-Cochin-Moon/release/8467190

The new ones being discussed are being produced in Japan by a subsidiary of Sony music - LiTA is not involved in the production / manufacturing, they are just providing distribution / promo.

Licensing and rights control is quite convoluted in Japan. It works both ways as well, for instance LiTA's blockbuster Japanese Environmental Music compilation is not available in Japan and only a handful of digital tracks for download were available with the vinyl reissue.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 31 August 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

One of the reasons I heard that Japanese territory reissues are expensive (even in Japan) are that in the case of major label releases, instead of licensing the recordings, the major itself presses the records on behalf of the reissuer, and then 'sells' them to the reissue label. Maybe to retain some kind of quality control and ensure that the right quantity is being pressed.

The reissue label has to pay whatever the major wants in order to do the reissue = high prices for all..

Stop the tape I got spittle all over my moustache. (Talcum Mucker), Monday, 31 August 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

thanks for that info, MFB!

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

yeah it makes more sense now. being a fan of Japanese music can get crazy expensive if you're not just pirating stuff.

frogbs, Monday, 31 August 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

yeah...i guess i have to keep in mind it could be way, way worse. the terrible setback i've been dealt is that i'll have to continue listening to all this cool shit for free and never send money to the people who helped make it. but whatever, i help spread the YMO-family word whenever i can, and i purchase everything i can that's not intended for wealthy people

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

whereas in the olden times, i'd probably have to rob a liquor store just to hear any of this stuff in the first place

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 31 August 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Absolutely not! :)

Maresn3st, Saturday, 3 October 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

The version of the Galactic Railroad theme on that is exquisite.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 3 October 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

And Bio Philosophy which is a stunning version of the first track from that Muji BGM tape

frogbs, Saturday, 3 October 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

oh damn no way? light em up already, frogbs!

brimstead, Saturday, 3 October 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

okay fine that price does seem pretty great for an NM copy, I mean fuck it we save that much every week in gas thanks to the pandemic is how I see it

frogbs, Saturday, 3 October 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

ahhhh god damn it

https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/1180310337?format=Vinyl&text=Haruomi-Hosono-Philharmony

maybe a good indication that the LTiA copies are coming down in price, never seen one under 85

frogbs, Sunday, 4 October 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

oh wow someone grabbed it

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

Remembered the other day that I travelled to Japan at the height of the Kubik craze and nabbed a YMO set, so technically I have a Haroumi Hosono action figure.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hana ni Mizu (Watering a Flower) tape reissue -

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/7302-hana-ni-mizu-watering-a-flower?mc_cid=6d1cd6c03d&mc_eid=982f43dfd8

stirmonster, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

first time I've ever wanted a goddamn cassette tape

iirc their Kankyo Ongaku set has the full version of the first track, imo the better of the two...might spring for that instead

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

Kankyo Ongaku has Original BGM, but nothing from the tape.

i bought it for my good friend, so at least i know i'll be able to reliably listen to it every once in a while

just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

oh! I guess I did not, in fact, rc

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link

Dang, missed it. It's available now on streaming.

Interesting the LITA page says there's a translation of the book on the web, accessible via a QR code that comes with the tape. Hope to see that sometime.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 6 November 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nehPFjX87l4

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

niiiice

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

awesome. is that Akiko Yano on piano? she must've been like 20. I wonder how many cigarettes got smoked through those sessions?

frogbs, Thursday, 3 December 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

yes, that is akiko. thanks for this... digging through hosono's career is endlessly rewarding.

visiting, Thursday, 3 December 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

Is indeed Akiko, I think she might have been as young as 17/18

Maresn3st, Thursday, 3 December 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

I remember reading that it's traditional in Japan for girls to learn piano at a very young age to entertain the family at gatherings and that's why were so many female technopop artists there in the 80's

frogbs, Thursday, 3 December 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

Watching those clips made me realise how I don't really care for Shigeru Suzuki, at least not what he was doing back then. His playing style and voice are really weak, I know HH's singing voice is a bit limited and Kermit The Frog but I've always enjoyed listening to him.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 3 December 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

yeah I kinda love his voice. it makes me laugh a lot.

frogbs, Friday, 4 December 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

I've dropped his cover of "Funiculi Funicula" into several playlists and let me tell you it gets a very odd reaction from people every time

frogbs, Friday, 4 December 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

and while I'm on the subject of Philharmony can I just say I find it weird that "Sports Men" is so universally celebrated while "Living-Dining-Kitchen" remains sort of an obscurity. I think it might be one of the best technopop songs ever written.

frogbs, Friday, 4 December 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

'Living-Dining-Kitchen' slaps, it's true.

emil.y, Friday, 4 December 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

interesting tidbit from the Coincidental Music sleeve - "Sayokoskatti" and "Memphis, Milano" (two of my favorite Hosono tracks) were both recorded at LDK studios in 1982, which I think means they were both part of the sessions for Philharmony. now I wanna make an alternate version of that album...

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

Found those translated notes for Watering a Flower.. neat

http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/HaruomiHosono_lyrics/hananimizu_english.pdf

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

many thanks! my tape arrived last week and i've been enjoying walking about listening to it immensely. it seems very fitting reading these notes that i have been 'moving around' lots while listening.

stirmonster, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

have really loved reading these interviews & notes in the reissues, it's the first time I've been able to get a sense of what he's like as a person

amusingly the new issue of Sakamoto's Left Handed Dream mentions that their differences had to do mostly with the use of electronics and synthesizers, I guess Sakamoto felt that HH's electronic stuff was too inhuman & weird and would not date well. which is amusing now because arguably Hosono's sound has held up incredibly well with a host of imitators, while albums like Left Handed Dream are the ones that sound stuck in their time

frogbs, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

new years eve w/ harry:

https://www.nts.live/shows/nye-with-nts/episodes/haruomi-hosono-31st-december-2020

kites aren't fun (NickB), Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

Yay! Thanks everso

Maresn3st, Thursday, 31 December 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

how is it that Light in the Attic haven't repressed the Swing Slow album

frogbs, Monday, 11 January 2021 05:40 (three years ago) link

indeed. my top Hosono want.

stirmonster, Monday, 11 January 2021 11:23 (three years ago) link

that and the Love, Peace and Trance album both seem like they'd be pretty popular reissues in the current climate, I'd have to imagine LitA or Great Tracks or Turntable Lab or someone is at least trying

frogbs, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

cursed or blessed image??

https://i.imgur.com/PGGrN6v.png

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link

Harry be making some house music

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

hosono house music 2
https://i.imgur.com/c492iJJ.png

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

Honestly though, he's a total Zelig, look at all the different pics of him from Apryl Fool/Happy End though to now, dude has had more phases than Bowie.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

if you need a reason to smile today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEWL3N56OQ4

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

Wicked! Thank you frogbs

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

He's got the twang down to a tee <3

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link

<3 excellent

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

There also seems to be some series of books coming out about YMO that deals with them year by year I could be wrong mind.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 11 March 2021 09:04 (three years ago) link

Jesus... That book! Google translating that made me even sadder there's no translation:

The definitive critique of musician Haruomi Hosono!
What did he produce with "Happy End," "Tin Pan Array," and "YMO"?

"I can't talk anymore."
Haruomi Hosono

Hosono otm.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 11 March 2021 11:59 (three years ago) link

i see the Monads are getting a reissue - https://www.phonicarecords.com/product/view/172659

expensive!

stirmonster, Friday, 19 March 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

S-F-X too

https://www.phonicarecords.com/product/view/172659

stirmonster, Friday, 19 March 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

Hosono records are never cheap (besides Cochin Moon) but even still those prices are insane. $80 before shipping?? christ. wonder if someone else is gonna offer them for cheaper.

frogbs, Friday, 19 March 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

yeah., i am very disappointed in the whole reissue series. i mean, i'll stream it, but i am someone who was eager to fork over $20-25/each for like a bajillion different hosono records. guess i'll just give hosono like 5 streaming cents instead

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 March 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

hard to blame them too much for the high prices of the other stuff, vinyl is always expensive in Japan and really LitA's prices are about what you'd pay there + like $7-10 to import. but these are like $20-30 beyond even that, which just feels exploitative, given some of these (particularly Mercuric Dance) fetch $150-200 on the secondary market. would be really nice if they'd license them to some American company to actually press it themselves. if LitA offers them at $40-50 I'll probably grab them with my Bidenbucks, just because I've wanted them for so damn long

frogbs, Friday, 19 March 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link

definitely gonna start saying bidenbux

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 March 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link

goddamn freemium games

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 March 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

looks like the 2019 US show will be coming to vinyl as well

https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/news/article/2104071044/

frogbs, Thursday, 8 April 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link

fun album!

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 8 April 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link

The Monad reissues were pulled from the Phonica page. Apparently they're Japan RSD exclusives and can't be sold until 7/17. Good news though is LitA apparently will try to sell a few copies:

https://lightintheattic.net/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&term=hosono

I'm sure they'll be expensive, but maybe not as bad as previously thought

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just found out today that Hosono apparently composed some music for a Japanese kids TV show in 2006. apparently Miharu Koshi and Akiko Yano are on the soundtrack too. can't find it but I did come across two tracks on YouTube, they're surprisingly great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiAX37XQPwI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB3QK_2qn_M

(I think the second one is AY with Hosono arranging)

frogbs, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

The first is Mei Kurokawa and is in the Japanese Pops Of Haruomi Hosono box set.

visiting, Saturday, 1 May 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

nice!! thanks for finding that!! I have become obsessed with it today.

frogbs, Saturday, 1 May 2021 03:28 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

paging: Karl Malone

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ymostream/permalink/4466977030014084/

Haruomi Hosono interview from the endless talking, the episode of the s
′′ I started smoking the so-called glass (the meaning of marijuana, cannabis) during the session. Happy also I didn't do much at any time, but I just happen to like that kind of thing at that time ′′
There is a picture of a hijab party on the jacket of Masato Minami's album that hosono-San participated in the time and session. I was originally interested in spiritual, and I was experiencing a musician's unique drug. Happy birthday, but even during the ting pan array activity, I don't say I don't do drugs at all, so the concept of the utopia of the yellow magic band name ′′ off ′′ that I participated in by professor and xìng hóng is actually the other side It's a real original world, not a scavenger, made by hosono-San, who knew it. The ending hosono-San's hurrah ′′ this next is more better!" is staggering." I'm going to connect to hosono-San and ymo who try anything because I like pleasure."

frogbs, Sunday, 23 May 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link

wait...WHAT?!?!

Karl Malone, Sunday, 23 May 2021 03:23 (two years ago) link

what's crazy is that i refreshed about 12 seconds after you posted it, so it really was like a pager :D

Karl Malone, Sunday, 23 May 2021 03:23 (two years ago) link

of course, this is my job

Karl Malone, Sunday, 23 May 2021 03:23 (two years ago) link

I guess that means I have to get blazed and listen to all his records again. ha ha ha, as if I haven't been doing that anyway

frogbs, Sunday, 23 May 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link

was at The Exclusive Company in Milwaukee and they had 4 of his records - his 3 latest and The Aegean Sea. not gonna pay that much for covers, but still, kind of surreal to see them

frogbs, Sunday, 23 May 2021 03:35 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

We Want Sounds reissuing three Makoto Kubota albums on vinyl. Listening to Dixie Fever rn on their bandcamp and it's lush.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 18 June 2021 10:57 (two years ago) link

Hosono on NTS right now picking fave records.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 20 June 2021 09:43 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

first of all, it's his 74th birthday today. I for one have been listening to Hosono records all day, how about you??

secondly, I just discovered this has a video and that indeed Hosono did have a ponytail in the mid-90s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6mWac-h4w

frogbs, Saturday, 10 July 2021 04:57 (two years ago) link

Happy Birthday, HH!

I posted this elsewhere and it may not be accessible from certain places, so apologies in advance, but it's a really interesting BBC Radio documentary about Kankyō Ongaku - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000xdwh

Maresn3st, Saturday, 10 July 2021 11:50 (two years ago) link

Oh nice! I’m gonna give that a shot via VPN

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 10 July 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link

allow me to brag for a moment and show this off. not to get all Steve Hoffman-y but this pressing is totally amazing, lotta stuff I never noticed on my MP3 copy

https://i.imgur.com/XkEOqsT.jpg

is this the one album of his that doesn't really stick to a particular sound? every track seems to invoke a different locale. honestly I think this might be his very best record. it's so melodically rich and weird. it combines his tropical, ambient, and technopop periods into one. it's one of those rare albums that really is an intersection of everything that makes an artist great at once. like for all the music he made between 82-85 this is like 4 years of ideas in one record. and it has "Pleocene".

frogbs, Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:00 (two years ago) link

Jealous! OSS is one of his best and yeah, it has 'Pleocene', easily my favourite HH song, even if he sounds a little like Kermit the frog :)

Maresn3st, Saturday, 24 July 2021 08:25 (two years ago) link

Every time he covers a song it comes off like he’s mocking it, in part because of that voice. Like idk if “Caravan” is supposed to be funny but it makes me laugh

frogbs, Saturday, 24 July 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

I associate Hosono's voice with Levon Helm - I guess they and Kermit The Frog are all contemporaries, lotta mutual influencing happening.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 24 July 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

caravan is a cover of like a 40s tin pan alley thing innit? i like it

clouds, Sunday, 25 July 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link

it's a duke ellington song from the mid 1930s and must be one of thee most covered pieces of music of all time. it became an exotica classic which is possibly what drew hosono to it.

stirmonster, Sunday, 25 July 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link

His Funiculì, Funiculà is really beautiful tho'

Maresn3st, Sunday, 25 July 2021 12:06 (two years ago) link

I really like the drum programming on the F.O.E. stuff

brimstead, Sunday, 25 July 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

so I've been deep into the Light in the Attic reissues of Omni Sight Seeing and Medicine Compilation lately. I've kind of dismissed these in the past as "later period Hosono" which regardless had some very good parts, now I think they are both in my Top 5. hell, OSS might be #1, I think it's the only album he has that captures nearly everything he's good at

frogbs, Saturday, 4 September 2021 04:48 (two years ago) link

omni sight seeing has "pleiocene" which is pretty much the best song ever

clouds, Friday, 10 September 2021 01:48 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxgPXw0nbyE

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 9 October 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

Will
11 months ago
I REMEMBER MAKING OUT WITH MAUDE IN MY BACK SEAT 38 DODGE AFTER THE HIGH SCHOOL HOP BACK IN 1962 AND MEDIUM COMPOSITION 1 WAS PLAYING ON THE RADIO SO GOOD IT NOT LIKE MODERN MUSIC WHICH IS ALL DISCO AND HI NRG>+/- WHY NO ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME FOR HARUOMI HOSONO!!?!!

frogbs, Sunday, 10 October 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

This thread is hall-of-fame second post wrongness.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 10 October 2021 11:18 (two years ago) link

I’m finally giving Hosono House a spin and even tho I was prepared for it to sound like some early 70s rock trip, this is wild. The second song sounds like The Band, another sounds like his spin on Van Dyke Parks’ wonderful cover of Allen Toussiant’s Occapella, and yet another sounds like a Clarence White vocal from one of the final Byrds records. Now, there’s a Nilsson homage. Crazy.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 04:39 (two years ago) link

folks it has finally arrived, I'm actually excited to actually spin this for the first time

https://i.imgur.com/s1vGDKQ.png

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 02:53 (two years ago) link

that bit in "La Masto de Tenkirin" where the grandfather clock starts wildly tolling feels so massive rn

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 03:18 (two years ago) link

Is the bottom third the obi or part of the artwork?

Maresn3st, Thursday, 14 October 2021 12:05 (two years ago) link

yeah its an obi. its so stuck on there I thought it was part of the artwork too.

it also came with a card sheet with stills from the movie that I think you're supposed to cut up. and a credit sheet. one thing I see now is that most of the piano pieces were in fact written by Miharu Koshi. I thought it might have been him because of his stuff on Coincidental Music, but now I'm looking at that one and she played the piano bits on there as well! I think her contributions to this soundtrack are what put it over the top for me.

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

whoa good news

https://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/-/News/A019206/57.html

3 new Hosono records (new pressings, not new material)

one is a repress/new mix of Swing Slow
one is a 12" with "talking" with the Vampire Weekend song that sampled it on the flip
one is a comp of his soundtrack work from the last couple of years

dunno if i'll cop all 3 but I absolutely need to get the Swing Slow repress, I've been waiting for that for yeeears

frogbs, Friday, 15 October 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link

three new tracks on the Swing Slow reissue btw

frogbs, Friday, 15 October 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

SO HAPPY! Been praying for a Swing Slow reissue for so long. YES!

stirmonster, Friday, 15 October 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

do you know when? i can't seem to see. maybe they can be bought from there now?

stirmonster, Friday, 15 October 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link

Cdjapan has them for preorder. I’m gonna see if Light in the Attic will carry them bc I’d assume it’s right in their wheelhouse

frogbs, Friday, 15 October 2021 21:18 (two years ago) link

My favorite YMO stuff is the BGM / Technodelic period and the associated solo albums from 1981-82, so I'm down with "Philharmony" too.

I wanna know from the experts here what are the critical albums from Hosono, Takahashi and Sakamoto. Their catalogs are quite vast.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 16 October 2021 01:25 (two years ago) link

thanks frogbs. i thinjk i'll try to get them from jeset as japan to uk shipping is way cheaper.

stirmonster, Saturday, 16 October 2021 02:46 (two years ago) link

short answer, this is easily the most critical from any of them:

https://www.discogs.com/release/2545732-Yukihiro-Takahashi-Yukihiro-Takahashis-Sexual-Voice-Message

long answer I actually have a list on RYM about this

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/JAMOOL/yellow-magic-orchestra-solo-and-related-albums/

frogbs, Saturday, 16 October 2021 02:51 (two years ago) link

ooh that's a great overview, thanks. haven't heard that akiko yano album among others

ufo, Saturday, 16 October 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link

like i feel like the akiko yano albums people always talk about are tadaima and maybe iroha ni konpeitou?

ufo, Saturday, 16 October 2021 04:08 (two years ago) link

what are the critical albums from Hosono, Takahashi and Sakamoto. Their catalogs are quite vast.

i'll give you a real amateurish, off the cuff, i've only listened to 1/10th of the catalogs kind of answer, "don't blame me!" THSTHS kind of list:

Neuromantic (T)
Cochin Moon (H)
Ongaku Zukan (S)
What Me Worry? (T)
Philharmony (H)
Thousand Knives (S)

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 04:55 (two years ago) link

no, those aren't their very best of the best or most representative probably, but all of these rule so much

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 04:56 (two years ago) link

re: akiko yano, to my mind everything up to and including welcome back (her "jazz" album ft metheny, haden, et al) are worth a listen (i actually think she was a more consistent solo artist than any of the core ymo members in the 80s) but my personal favs are japanese girl (sleek 70s jazz pop w/ heavy japanese folk inflections, she was only like 20 or something ridiculous when she made this), ai ga nakuchane (recorded in london w/ ymo and members of japan) and brooch (beautiful interpretations of schubert, debussy, stravinsky et al songs as well as some originals, performed alongside classical pianist yuji takahashi, really highlights the exceptional range of her unconventional vocal style)

worth noting that many of the lyrics on her albums throughout the 80s and into the 90s were written by shigesato itoi, best known in the west as creator of the mother/earthbound series

missingNO, Saturday, 16 October 2021 05:04 (two years ago) link

that's a great list karl! i would only add sakamoto's esperanto which for me is not only among sakamoto's best but one of the most special and confounding and inimitable records ever made

missingNO, Saturday, 16 October 2021 05:12 (two years ago) link

oh yeah also also also this is maybe better for another thread but don't sleep on sakamoto's notated instrumental works from the 90s/00s, discord in particular is a stunner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig-7opc1AWE

missingNO, Saturday, 16 October 2021 05:16 (two years ago) link

It hit me in the face this week that Paraiso is one of the best albums ever. I used to prefer Tropical Dandy and Bon Voyage Co. from his pan-Pacific exotica era, but Paraiso really feels like the musical and conceptual culmination of that era, with an eye toward a spaced-out electronic future (“Simoon” from the first YMO record takes it even further in this direction). It’s also just good-time party music, the most fun you can possibly have on record. Plus some of the most perfect album artwork. Need to procure a vinyl copy of this ASAP

J. Sam, Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

Yeah I’ve made no secret of my fondness for that album. It hit me the same way, I thought it was cool but nothing special and then one day I could not stop looping “Asatoya Yunta” because there was something really strange and fascinating about it. Then I realized the whole album is like that. The second track is so incredible - I’ve had it on some playlists for parties and it’s one that someone always asks about.

Gerald - would also highly recommend Omni Sight Seeing from 1989. I think it may actually be his best record. While he may have spread himself a little thin from 82-85 putting out like 10 different albums in various guises this one is like a “best of” of the next 4 years. It’s also his only album that doesn’t stick to a theme, every track is very different from the previous one. Maybe that is the theme. Pretty much everything he does well is on here.

frogbs, Saturday, 16 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link

Yeah that's exactly what happened to me with Paraiso this time around, except it was "Worry Beads" that was my "gateway."

J. Sam, Saturday, 16 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

I'll second the OSS recommendation... It's the one album I've suggest to anyone who wants to get a good overview of Hosono's work.

visiting, Saturday, 16 October 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

what are the top two sakamotos?

that's the one i struggled with the most

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

and OSS only recently made it on spotify (well, it maybe have been years. i am still in the year 2020, in some ways), i haven't really listened it all the way through yet! i should do that this afternoon

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

that's a great list karl! i would only add sakamoto's esperanto which for me is not only among sakamoto's best but one of the most special and confounding and inimitable records ever made

― missingNO

and likewise, thank you missingNO and i have only listened to esperanto once! so i will put that on the playlist after OSS

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link

Ongaku Zukan (S)

fuck, yet again i'm an idiot. i meant Hidariude no Yume (Left Handed Dream) from 1981. this one:

https://i.imgur.com/tqNbjRZ.jpg

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

if my ymo lore is correct, it was recorded during a time of internal tension between the core 3, and it always seems like the vibe is that sakamoto was taking a bit of a pretentious turn and trying to elevate himself into a global art star or something? i have no idea. but this album was made in the height of that (there's no definitive YMO bio that i know of so i'm not sure i have the right take on the vibe, but i thought that takahashi/hosono were both kinda irritated by sakamoto or vice versa), and it's amazing. the amount of musical territory it covers is pretty amazing, and it goes all the way from ambient bliss to legit shots at pop hits to avant-garde/experimento zone

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

OSS is really good :) it's pop track is buried at the back, love it :)

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

its

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Saturday, 16 October 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

from what I've read the tension was always between Sakamoto and Hosono, both of whom came from very different backgrounds - Sakamoto was from a high class family while Hosono was more working class. which is why RS's early work was classical & more art school while HH started in folk and got really into Martin Denny. seems like this led the two of them to argue a lot about the "aim" of YMO's music. indeed I think Sakamoto did have his sights set on becoming famous worldwide (which he kinda achieved?) and wanted his music to sound state-of-the-art while Hosono was more whimsical and goofy (and perhaps a bit more "spiritual"?). I think if you compare Left-Handed Dream to Philharmony you can hear the difference in approach; in the liner notes to LHD he talks about how he wanted synths that mimicked "worldly" sounds to give the album an authentic and timeless feel while on Philharmony HH is just like "I really had fun playing with this sampler". ironically Philharmony is the one that sounds more relevant today.

afaik Takahashi was just the guy in the middle convincing the other two to stay together...from what I've heard he's an exceedingly friendly and sociable dude

frogbs, Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link

takahashi's contribution to the dynamic was surely having the strongest & most straight-forward pop instincts?

ufo, Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link

fwiw I do think Ongaku Zukan is essential as well...it's not really much like YMO but the original album is stellar and may have predicted vaporwave to some degree (it's basically Weather Channel music. but really gorgeous and groovy Weather Channel music. entirely instrumental iirc). there are two wildly different versions of this album - one from 1984 (Ongaku Zukan) that's 9 tracks plus a bonus 12" or 7" (the difference being an extra version of "Tibetan Dance") and one from 1986 that's the American version, which contains 6 tracks from the original plus two with vocals, "Field Work" (with Thomas Dolby) and "Steppin' Into Asia" (with Akiko Yano). both good tracks but the original works much better, particularly "Replica" on the bonus LP which is one of my favorites tunes of his. Great Tracks actually did reissue this album last year but it's missing the bonus so I'm trying to find an original. I am pretty curious about this version, though:

https://www.discogs.com/release/6830161-Ryuichi-Sakamoto-%E9%9F%B3%E6%A5%BD%E5%9B%B3%E9%91%91-Ongaku-Zukan-2015-Edition

frogbs, Saturday, 16 October 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link

And yeah I think you could argue that YT had the strongest overall influence on YMOs sound, his solo albums at the time were pretty similar

frogbs, Saturday, 16 October 2021 22:25 (two years ago) link

idk about overall but very much so on naughty boys at least

ufo, Saturday, 16 October 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link

hadn't heard the beatniks album before but it's cool, predominantly in-line with takahashi's solo work but a few tracks that are clearly primarily composed by suzuki (e.g. "le sang du poete") & his touches elsewhere are occasionally apparent

ufo, Sunday, 17 October 2021 01:14 (two years ago) link

takahashi's contribution to the dynamic was surely having the strongest & most straight-forward pop instincts?

― ufo, Sunday, 17 October 2021 06:59 (sixteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is debatable, both hosono and sakamoto were much more active in the early 80s as songwriters and producers for more conventional chart-bound pop artists than takahashi was, who seemed to model himself more on the art rock / sophistipop archetype of bryan ferry, bowie, et al

missingNO, Sunday, 17 October 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link

two different recordings of one of my favourite hosono songs (again featuring lyrics by shigesato itoi). probably alone here but i genuinely think this is one of the strongest straight-forward pop songs he ever wrote ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIVpYm0p3UA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jnqiesaa44

missingNO, Sunday, 17 October 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link

Xp Yeah Hosono wrote for chart pop acts more extensively than both RS and YT.

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 17 October 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link

I love sakamoto’s 80s work he did for tv commercials and stuff

brimstead, Sunday, 17 October 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link

I'm only really just catching on over the past few years, with the Light In The Attic (and others) compilations and reissues and all that, so really appreciating this discussion.

Did Hosono do a lot of production where he wasn't a (credited) writer? I was going through a bunch of Pizzicato 5 a while ago and finding I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as way back... except I was loving the very first single, "The Audrey Hepburn Complex". I look it up and whatdoyouknow, produced by Hosono! This guy eh.

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 17 October 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

He's produced plenty without a writing credit -- much of Miharu Koshi's stuff for example.

visiting, Sunday, 17 October 2021 18:49 (two years ago) link

surprised that hosono's mercuric dance and coincidental music haven't gotten a mention yet. those are big time personal favorites. "windy land" in particular. so beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlXX-Bhzhrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVIsjpcn2ew

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 17 October 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link

re: takahashi i just mean he appeared to be the one pushing ymo the strongest in that direction. the others certainly had strong pop instincts too, but it wasn't as much of a focus for them, especially with ymo

ufo, Sunday, 17 October 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link

I've probably posted this observation on the YT thread but his concurrent solo albums are always quite similar to what YMO was doing at the time. Murdered by the Music is like a companion piece to Xoo Multiplies, Neuromantic is sonically similar to BGM, Exitentialism has Technodelic-esque rhythms and experimentation, What, Me Worry? is more sophisticated pop like Service. So I've always figured he was the one most responsible for what their albums actually sounded like

frogbs, Monday, 18 October 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link

in case the two auto-generated vids i posted above are blocked outside of japan, here they are again. song is "hashire usagi" ("run rabbit") recorded by yuko kanai and miharu koshi respectively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq-PMH_Zjxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o75lWNaRkik

missingNO, Monday, 18 October 2021 03:37 (two years ago) link

i was unaware of the yuko kanai version... it's great.

visiting, Monday, 18 October 2021 03:43 (two years ago) link

still think sandii's "zoot kook" is hosono's most impressive outside production job. so advanced with that sinuous, proto-acid synth sequence ... such a ridiculously lush chorus to boot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmScAoPrg_I

missingNO, Monday, 18 October 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link

love the amorphous synth clouds that levitate the final chorus ... so glorious. he's listed in the credits so i'm guessing this part was played by sakamoto on the prophet 5 as it has that dense, detuned ensemble chorus quality he was fond of at the time

missingNO, Monday, 18 October 2021 04:19 (two years ago) link

Has anyone heard the unreleased album he produced for Dynasty singer Linda Carriere in 1977? I just found out this exists, and it's kind of blowing my mind. Songs by Hosono, Tatsuro Yamashita, Minako Yoshida, Akiko Yano, and Hiroshi Sato. I can only find three full songs from it on YouTube and nothing on Soulseek, so if anyone has a rip of this let me know.

The songs I've heard sound a lot like the city pop of that period (e.g. Yamashita's SPACY and Go Ahead), though the marimba on "Laid Back Mad Or Mellow" nods to Hosono's exotica stuff. Apparently it wasn't released because the record execs thought the vocals were weak, and it looks like a demo copy was sold once on Discogs for $2,000. It's true the vocals aren't the greatest I've heard, but the production is sick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuMSAfGPdbM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsqMAHX29e8

J. Sam, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link

if you're interested in HH's work writing and producing other artists, this massive boxset compiles a ton of it:

https://www.discogs.com/release/11508013-Haruomi-Hosono-%E7%B4%B0%E9%87%8E%E6%99%B4%E8%87%A3%E3%81%AE%E6%AD%8C%E8%AC%A1%E6%9B%B220%E4%B8%96%E7%B4%80%E3%83%9C%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E7%B4%B0%E9%87%8E%E6%99%B4%E8%87%A3%E6%8F%90%E4%BE%9B%E6%A5%BD%E6%9B%B2%E9%9B%86-20th-Century

it's not comprehensive - there are some Jun Togawa tracks he wrote that don't appear here, and god knows what else. it is a near-endless source of treasure though. several of these tracks I've encountered in the wild and thought "it's gotta be him", idk what it is exactly but both his melodic and rhythmic sense are very recognizable to me

frogbs, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

god knows what else

Includes 144 page book with additional info including a list of all(most?) songs written by Haruomi Hosono prior to 2009.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

I’m surprised no sandii albums have been reissued recently afaik

brimstead, Monday, 18 October 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

co-signing "Zoot Kook", hard to believe that predates Computer World even

afaik the "lost" YMO track "Indo" also surfaces on that Sandii album, can't remember what it is though

feels like an album that ought to be re-evaluated soon

frogbs, Monday, 18 October 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

Zoot Kook is song of the day, pass the word

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 October 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link

i can't get to the rest of the album because i keep listening to Zoot Kook, the song of the day, on repeat

typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Monday, 18 October 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link

hah, I've had the same experience

found this idol knock off of it recently, it's pretty blatant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecqegd3wW-o

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 18 October 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link

spinning Medicine Comp tonight, such an incredible and chill record. its music for the sensory deprivation tank. it sounds quite unique as this New Age/Enigma stuff is the one electronica movement that's never really had a resurgence - it's always been so terminally uncool - so when someone does it well, it almost feels like unexplored territory. that said the more you listen the more you hear Hosono's fingerprints, in fact it was probably the most natural direction for him to go in at that time

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link

that one took off for me recently, beautiful stuff

brimstead, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 03:57 (two years ago) link

i can't get to the rest of the album because i keep listening to Zoot Kook, the song of the day, on repeat

― typo hell 13: crypto in insidious, though (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 05:52 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

honestly the rest of the album is just ... ok. it has a nice version of yukihiro takahashi's "drip dry eyes"! idk i feel like many of the ymo affiliated albums usually have one or two really stand out tracks and then a lot of filler, likely an unavoidable consequence of being so prolific at the time. like masami tsuchiya's rice music for example, it has sakamoto's incredible "kafka" but the rest of the album is disappointing given the calibre of the supporting musicians (night mirage by ippu-do [tsuchiya's main project] fares a bit better in this regard)

frogbs, supposedly the tracks "shantith" and "oinori" are versions/interpolations of "indo"

missingNO, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 05:39 (two years ago) link

underrated masterpiece of early-80s outside ymo productions: mari iijima's rosé, produced by sakamoto in 1983. it's pure, unadulterated, exuberant city pop / boogie (of the kind that's not necessarily to every ymo fan's taste) but the chord sequences and arrangements are so good

missingNO, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 05:58 (two years ago) link

Yeah Rosé is a good album.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 06:25 (two years ago) link

back to hosono, i love this live tv footage from 1983 of him performing w/ seiko matsuda, briefly demonstrating his linn drum, mc-8 and prophet 5 setup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lumt37Fz0ok

missingNO, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 06:35 (two years ago) link

I don't think Medicine Comp is his best album, but it's the one I come back to most often I think. It just "fits" into so many listening situations.

I'm currently fascinated by his late-90s/early-00s "electronica" period - where he moved to laptop production and basically sounded as contemporary as any other glitch producers. Obviously there's the Sketch Show albums, but there's a whole string of collabs/compilations I don't really know anything about. I adore his super glitched-out Coldcut remix, shame that one isn't more widely available.

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 08:53 (two years ago) link

yea everything gets pretty messy after Medicine Comp. I remember there was one called Good Sport which was like a 90's version of Coincidental Music. should really revisit that one since I recall it being quite good. it was a soundtrack he did to some sporting event.

both Sketch Show albums are wonderful but I really like Loophole. its got such a vivid "staring at the stars on a warm day" sort of feeling to it. I actually think Takahashi is more responsible for the sound & songwriting but Harry's trademarks are totally there.

one more thing - I decided to try to track down some of the Kankyo Ongaku artists and found this (quite good!) LP for very cheap. lo and behold, look who's credited as producer.

https://www.discogs.com/release/1251889-Interior-Interior

frogbs, Thursday, 21 October 2021 03:01 (two years ago) link

yeah that interior album is definitely worth a listen, originally released on hosono and takahashi's yen records imprint in 1982. i especially love the first track "technobose"

inoyama land's danzindan-pojidon is another good hosono produced instrumental/ambient album from that period (also published on yen records)

missingNO, Thursday, 21 October 2021 04:27 (two years ago) link

also testpattern's après-midi, another hosono produced yen record's release from the same period, is wonderful, a bit more straight-up techno-pop but certainly with some hosono-esque ambient elements

as an aside, i never checked until now but resellers are really having a laugh with some of the prices of this stuff on discogs huh

missingNO, Thursday, 21 October 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link

(ugh please disregard the errant apostrophe in yen records above)

missingNO, Thursday, 21 October 2021 05:36 (two years ago) link

Those two Yen box sets (Yen Box 1&2) are pretty essential as a way to plot a path through the YMO Extended Universe, they take in both the Kankyu Ongaku stuff through the more pop and new wavey albums.

I really like the Interior album. The Windham Hill reissue (which has a slightly different track list) was quite cheap, at least up until recently.

bamboohouses, Thursday, 21 October 2021 07:05 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

My Swing Slow arrived today. It took 3 days to get from Tokyo to Glasgow (5700 miles). Recently mail has been taking longer than that to get from Ediburgh to Glasgow (50 miles).

Anyway, that is by the by.

No obi on the Swing Slow but packaging, sleeve quality and vinyl pressing are exemplary. I've seen a few grumblings over the fact that it has been remixed but i'm enjoying it just as much in this (subtle new) mix as the original.

stirmonster, Thursday, 30 December 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link

Edinburgh!

stirmonster, Thursday, 30 December 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

lol @ this Twitter thread. guess the "4th member" of YMO is not Matsutake but rather the dude who handed Hosono a tainted joint

How A Single Bad Drug Trip Led to Japanese Technopop 🧵

In the early 1970s, bassist Haruomi Hosono of the band Happy End was jamming with his friends at a Tokyo studio, when someone passed around a joint. Hosono thought it would be very cool to take a double-sized hit. pic.twitter.com/sFXTEsulCI

— W. David Marx (@wdavidmarx) February 9, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 10 February 2022 13:49 (two years ago) link

I wish Marxy would write a book about them, then another about the era in general, he's more than capable.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 10 February 2022 14:07 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Wtf, I love this kid

Harry Styles saying “Haruomi Hosono” on the Today Show pic.twitter.com/EV7tQIOJ4p

— Light In The Attic (@lightintheattic) May 19, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

after getting to know the original a bit better I've started to realize that Hochono House is a hell of an accomplishment

the original has this indescribable vibe - there's something extraordinarily chill and comforting about it. you feel like you were in the room where it was recorded. it's become a cult classic for that reason. a lotta people write things about it like "I don't know why this album is special but it just is". I think it actually fits in that confusing thread I made about debut albums last week.

anyway, the new version changes up pretty much everything - it's all re-recorded and most of the songs are done in a very different way - but somehow that vibe is still there. so it winds up being the rare remix album that works basically the same as the original. idk if I've ever heard anyone quite pull that off before.

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 03:46 (one year ago) link

good post. hochono house is really something special. it deepened my love for hosono house and is of a piece with it, but is totally it's own special thing

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 04:05 (one year ago) link

yeh good post frogbs

nxd, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link

ha! Hochono House in reverse order of Hosono House, starting with a new version of the final track from Hosono and working its way back to the opener? that's great. :) it also creates ideal conditions to listen to Hosono House and Hochono house on repeat - it'll take you all the way to the final track, make you feel psychedelic and then bring you back to the beginning again

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

it hits you with that "Yellow Mario" right away

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZhDXBXw0mQ

MaresNest, Monday, 11 July 2022 09:23 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

I’ve never spent much time with Hosono House before. Man, Choo Choo Gatagoto sounds like a dead ringer for Van Dyke Parks’ cover of Toussaint’s Ocapella from Discover America – from the groove to the languid vocal to (almost) the melody. Wild.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 14 November 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

(And I know they worked together on the relatively contemporaneous Happy End, it still just doesn’t 100% register until I hear this)

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 14 November 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

not familiar with much else but Hosono House rules

corrs unplugged, Monday, 14 November 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

It does. And honestly, it's weird that it wasn't produced by VDP because, well, it sounds exactly like the Japanese version of him. And the Happy End album doesn't really?

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

he did do an interview about this:

TODD BURNS

With Happy End, you ended up recording an album in America. Can you talk about that experience? Was that the first time you had been to America?

HARUOMI HOSONO

Right. It was 1973, or perhaps 1972. I don’t exactly recall when. In LA, California, there is a famous studio called Sunset Sound where we recorded Happy End’s third album. I don’t know how we got there. Someone arranged it for us, I guess. Suddenly Van Dyke Parks visited the studio. He’s a great musician. He was with Lowell George, the guitarist from group Little Feat. They came in, and we got caught up in their pace. That was a really new experience for us. For example, their recording method was very western. It was very layered, let’s say. We learned that method. Before that our style was flat, like Japanese picture scrolls. We hadn’t thought about depth. We learned that from Parks.

TODD BURNS

Van Dyke Parks, you’ve spoken about his impact on you and in meeting him. It seems like he is quite a character.

HARUOMI HOSONO

He was really a crazy man. He was high when we first met. I wanted to stay away from him. I didn’t like him. He first gave a speech in the middle of the studio, like a monologue. It was about the Japanese emperor. We were so puzzled – who is this guy? That was about when we first met. I met him again when he was sober. He was nice. We are still friends. I like him a lot.

frogbs, Monday, 14 November 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

finally got the Swing Slow reissue. it's an excellent album and I love that it too seems to have been given a new life by the YouTube algorithm. it's kind of the ultimate Hosono album. it's folky, it's electronic, it's gorgeous, it's kind of minimal, it's vintage yet cutting edge, it has weird unexpected dance breakdowns, and it's steeped largely in (and covers songs from) a genre that the vast majority of his audience wasn't around for. and it's really confounding, so many little "why did you do it this way" moments. and it has an ambient interlude that's so pretty it hurts.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:50 (one year ago) link

bonus tracks are great too! check this out, maybe the creepiest thing I've ever heard him do. no way this is from '96, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmF6WASwPcw

also includes another, much slower cover of "Caravan", which sounds less electronic but still as mechanical. also something unsettling about that one...

frogbs, Thursday, 19 January 2023 04:21 (one year ago) link

the vinyl version is so beautifully done and is maybe the best sounding record i bought last year. has become one of my very favourite hosono releases.

stirmonster, Thursday, 19 January 2023 11:45 (one year ago) link

the reissues last year of Omni Sight Seeing & Medicine Comp also sound incredible, kinda restored my faith in the idea that a well-done pressing can blow away even a well-encoded MP3

curious why people don't seem to like the remix though (at least based on random Discogs comments) - I feel like most of the differences are subtle and the 'upgrade' to the beats makes it sound a bit less 90's which I think is probably a good thing. it's got sort of a 3-D sound to it but not in a hollowed out way. I think it's really good.

frogbs, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link

i just read those discogs comments and wholeheartedly disagree. the remixing is very subtle and yes does indeed, 'upgrade' the beats, especially during that incredible percussion part of disappeared.

stirmonster, Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

I'm a late arrival but YMO and Hosono have hit me over the last year or so. They simultaneously scratch and create an itch.
Anyway I looked in the NTS archives bcz why not and there's a 15 hour Hosono day from 2017 that I haven't seen mentioned here, so that's what I've been doing while/instead of working this week.

woof, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link

One for frogbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUB9yqPmgJA

MaresNest, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

Oh wow that is interesting!! so as you probably know I absolutely love the Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo soundtrack and have always wondered whether Harry is actually playing piano on it or if it's Miharu Koshi. I've actually never seen him play piano before. I'm still not sure if it's him, his playing here seems stilted a bit though maybe he's just putting a spin on it. There isn't much video of Koshi playing either but the little bits I found she certainly seems more nimble, so I assume it's probably her on that album, and then Hosono on the Coincidental Music version?

frogbs, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

It says in the info something like this was the first time he played solo piano on TV and he was nervous, he's certainly picking up and putting down the beat a lot.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

And this was '85 when Coincidental Music came out, so I guess it was him. No idea about Koshi playing on the soundtrack version.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

N.D.E. at last.

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/9402-n-d-e?mc_cid=62a27bbcea&mc_eid=982f43dfd8

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 00:32 (one year ago) link

Hell yeah, love that this era of Hosono is getting some attention. Wonder if a reissue of Love, Peace, and Trance is in the cards???

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Well he’s by far my favorite member of 1D now

Harry Styles came to visit Hosono House.

ハリー・スタイルズさんが、ホソノハウスに遊びに来てくれました。#HarryStyles #HaruomiHosono #ハリースタイルズ #細野晴臣 #HarrysHouse #HosonoHouse pic.twitter.com/B38anvQgTx

— 細野晴臣_info (@hosonoharuomi_) March 29, 2023

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

oh my!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

have never been jealous of harry styles before but

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link

harry is good now, i take back calling his music boring. it is boring, but that doesnt matter, hes one of us.

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 30 March 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link

Harry's House is a reference to Hosono House, is it not? Styles also said the album was inspired by city-pop, though I don't really hear it

Vinnie, Thursday, 30 March 2023 02:58 (one year ago) link

Did they play that otamatone?

StanM, Thursday, 30 March 2023 03:19 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

SORRY TO BUMP THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW BUT

the production on this is insane. Hosono would probably be universally recognized as an electrofunk god if he was like...25% less weird

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsPXl-OxW28

frogbs, Saturday, 15 April 2023 02:17 (one year ago) link

yes i love that one!

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Saturday, 15 April 2023 06:48 (one year ago) link

someone got Pacific Breeze 3? it's pretty great!

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 15 April 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAhF7c0IxGI

finally found it!! it's a famous Punjabi song and there are a zillion versions out there, for a while I thought the one Hosono sampled/colored over was just a recording lost to time

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:11 (eleven months ago) link

oh and here's a fun Hosono fact

today, tomorrow, and the next day will be the:

40th anniversary of Naughty Boys
50th anniversary of Hosono House
30th anniversary of Technodon

frogbs, Thursday, 25 May 2023 03:19 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

reissue time again...

https://rushhourmusic.bandcamp.com/merch/haruomi-hosono-n-d-e-2-lp

NickB, Sunday, 30 July 2023 04:51 (nine months ago) link

just ordered a copy, hopefully it sounds as great as the Medicine Comp reissue does. nice to see some attention paid to Hosono's ponytail phase. kinda wonder if/when those Monad albums are ever gonna get reissued. two years ago there were open preorders for them but I guess they never actually got made. you'd think Bon Voyage and Tropical Dandy would get reissued too since the demand for those seems pretty high right now. but who knows what goes on in the minds of these obscure labels.

frogbs, Monday, 31 July 2023 15:16 (nine months ago) link

it does sound great. the japanese reissues do all sound just that little but better though, and i never cease to be taken aback by how great the 'Swing Slow' reissue sounds.

stirmonster, Monday, 31 July 2023 16:06 (nine months ago) link

I have this reissue on Rush Hour and it sounds wonderful.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 31 July 2023 16:53 (nine months ago) link

the Swing Slow reissue cheats a bit because parts of it were actually re-recorded or remixed. but the Omni Sight Seeing/Medicine Comp reissues are incredible, two of the best sounding albums in my collection really. it's especially impressive since OSS is 48 minutes long

frogbs, Monday, 31 July 2023 16:57 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n6Z6PWXlDY

MaresNest, Monday, 14 August 2023 23:15 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

Just had YouTube suggest this video compilation of music from his label Non-Standard to me - has anyone else seen this before?

NON-STANDARD SPECIAL PV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gHiI_MWqkk

00:00 Opening
00:36 Strange Love / 細野晴臣
06:38 野ばら / コシミハル (Miharu Koshi)
09:42 瞳はサンセットグロウ / SHI-SHONEN
13:45 細野晴臣 SFX CM
15:15 Dr.Diet / URBAN DANCE
18:49 オードリィ・ヘプバーン・コンプレックス / ピチカート・ファイヴ (Pizzicato Five)
23:39 太陽とダァリヤ / WORLD STANDARD
27:40 冬のノフラージュ / MIKADO

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 05:28 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

^^^ !!!

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 1 December 2023 17:43 (five months ago) link

reissue news:

https://wrwtfww.com/album/quiet-logic

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 1 December 2023 17:44 (five months ago) link

that's quiet logic, a 90s collaboration between hosono, mixmaster morris and jonah sharp

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 1 December 2023 17:47 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

He's grown his hair out again, bless him!

https://tower.jp/article/news/2022/06/28/tg009

He mentioned he was recording -- wonder whether he meant the recent (beautiful!) ambient work Undercurrent or something else that hasn't yet surfaced.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 17 December 2023 08:10 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Oh man, those descending "mmmmmmm"s in the outro of Funiculi Funicula!

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 12 January 2024 18:07 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGBe3Fb6Jco

Here's a neat Hosono composition snuck on to the end of a [Sandi & The] Sunsetz album from 1981. If you wanted to bridge Cochin Moon and Philharmony with a single track, this would be the one.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 14 January 2024 19:00 (three months ago) link

hard to believe there's still 80s Hosono stuff out there I haven't heard

cool track but slightly cursed wouldn't you say

frogbs, Sunday, 14 January 2024 20:03 (three months ago) link

I like the first track on that album, it sort of reminds me of The Slits or something

brimstead, Sunday, 14 January 2024 20:25 (three months ago) link

Been digging around in Hosono's 1987 -- things seem to get especially messy for a while, post-Monad, with F.O.E. gaining members (and opening for James Brown in Japan...?). There was the soundtrack to The Tale of Genji, (same director as Night on the Galactic Railroad) and then the thoroughly collaborative (her website: "Absolute simulative works from the original recording by HARUOMI HOSONO and MIHARU KOSHI / Manipulated by HARUOMI HOSONO") Echo de Miharu, finished in December '86 but released in 1987. Between those two, there's enough magnificent music for anyone... you'd think. But as usual, with Hosono, there's more in the corners. Tell me, how can you not adore a man who, in the very same year, made both this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yViRPNNweQ

and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBUBMDuejM4

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 18 January 2024 05:29 (three months ago) link

“The Tale Of Genji” is a lovely soundtrack

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 18 January 2024 07:32 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

This thread seems to be where most of the Miharu Koshi action is -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nHP84Tgug4

MaresNest, Friday, 2 February 2024 17:34 (three months ago) link

Thank you Mare, sampled a bit, gonna need to listen in full.

I've been having too much fun working on these translations. Why stop?

Paraiso has its share of heavy spiritual longing (Shimendoka, Worry Beads, title track, arguably Asatoya Yunta, maybe Shambhala Signal too if you just go by the title) and, as we English speakers know, its equally heavy share of goofball numbers... like Femme Fatale.

...

Here are the ends of the earth.
A mysterious oasis hidden in the city.
Today, too, I will search for you,
and when I find you,
the birds in the red sky will clamor.

The sun is in the west.
When the moon rises and illuminates the dark,
moonburned skin will give off the fragrance
of blood, sweat, and tears.
It's an omen of death.

Hey, listen!
The ground is rumbling.
You can hear it shaking in the distance!
Come on, quit it with these scary omens -- femme fatale!

You are a demon's daughter
and, ah, once again I am your captive.
The moon is full
and a dreadful god is coming,
swooping down to abduct you!

Hey, listen!
The ground is rumbling.
You can hear it shaking in the distance!
Come on, quit it with these scary omens -- femme fatale!

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 5 February 2024 06:49 (three months ago) link

Really enjoying your translations and commentary.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 5 February 2024 06:51 (three months ago) link

Thank you, Kim!

Mare, that series looks nuts! There's a whole episode on Chu Kosaka's wonderful Horo?! (aka the Hosono solo album Hosono didn't make himself because he felt his voice wasn't suited to that sort of R&B / blues, so instead he tasked Chu Kosaka aka lead singer of Apryl Fool with making it).

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 5 February 2024 06:53 (three months ago) link

Glad you like! I love that such a thing as an ALFA YT channel exists.

MaresNest, Monday, 5 February 2024 11:05 (three months ago) link

No kidding! Seems too good to be true!

Swinging over to Philharmony for a minute, to the only Japanese song, unless you count the Japanese bits in Luminescent/Hotaru ("Firefly! Come!"). The words to Funiculi Funicula are based more on the premise of Peppino Turco's original 1880 text than on its actual content. The words are credited to Sō Aoki, "lyricist and translator from French" sez Discogs, and to one Shin Yakyō, whose sole credit this is -- presumably a Hosono pseudonym. The words certainly carry the Hosono brand of lovely absurdist humor.

...

(Verse 1)
Let's go up the mountain that spews red fire.
Let's go up! Let's go up!
And once we're there, let's have a peek inside the furnace of hell.
Have a peek! Have a peek!
Now that we have the cable car,
anybody can go up.
The billowing smoke is inviting
everybody! Everybody!

(Chorus)
Let's go, let's go to the fiery mountain!
Let's go up the mountain!
Funiculi, funicula, funiculi, funicula
Anyone can ride it! Funiculi, funicula

(Verse 2)
Looking so bright red in the dark night sky --
I can see it! I can see it!
It's the fiery mountain, Vesuvius.
Fiery mountain! Fiery mountain!
The cable car has come down
to the foot of the mountain.
The burning flame is reflected in the sky.
Blazing! Blazing!

(Chorus again)

(Verse 1 again)

(Chorus again & again & agaaaain)

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 5 February 2024 14:02 (three months ago) link

Seems too good to be true!

And it kind of is -- given the length of the episodes, I would've liked everyone to go into more detail. But there are worse ways to spend 45 minutes than listening to YMO fans chat. The first Ginger Root episode, in which he does a cover of Kimi ni Mune Kyun, went over several terrific historical / contextual tidbits I didn't know about; recommended!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrmTGtUyM_A

On the translation front, here's a version of Paraiso.

...

Sometimes, in dreams, I'll see a fantasy vision
and, following it, end up at a pier.
As for this city I'm in now, well --
I could get used to living here, if I had to --
this island country I've tried and failed to slip away from.
Tomorrow I'll try and fail again.

(chorus)
From the pier, I'll leap aboard a ship hailing from a distant land --
adios, farewell! --
and blow a kiss to the lights of the city,
gazing at them as I would a woman's face --
bye bye, bye bye, goodbye.

Paradise! Paraiso!
Ever-expanding fantasy!
Mirage! Paraiso!
Melting into reality.

(synthesizer paradise)

(chorus again)

Someday, with me and the city both in twilight,
I will make my way to the side
of somebody who is waiting for love to arrive.
Adios, farewell, sayonara.

(and Harry's message to us all at album's end: "Next time will be 'more better' !!!")

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:35 (three months ago) link

I had no idea about this YEN Records channel, this is amazing

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:41 (three months ago) link

and lol @ "synthesizer paradise", that part is so insane and weirdly intense it barely fits the song, kind of the ultimate Hosono moment I suppose

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:43 (three months ago) link

listening to that 2019 live album now and it's hilarious the way the crowd cheers for the "Yellow Mario" line

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:14 (three months ago) link

Yen channel?

Thanks a lot for this stuff TNNN

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 03:43 (three months ago) link

I see this is getting reissued - I'd never even heard of it before

https://www.discogs.com/release/240618-Mixmaster-Morris-Jonah-Sharp-Quiet-Logic

Although, I'm curious what exactly Hosono does on this. the reissue lists him in the artist credit but idk maybe that's a marketing ploy? either way I checked out some samples and it is indeed very nice.

currently listening to Loophole and I can't believe how well this album has held up. makes me wonder if they'd have produced more albums if not for that quasi-YMO reunion in 2007. kind of the last we heard from Hosono as a songwriting voice too. I like the HASYMO stuff fine but it feels a bit like a compromise, this very much does not

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 04:25 (three months ago) link

Daisyworld is Hosono's label. Per Discogs:

Haruomi Hosono (co-founder of Yellow Magic Orchestra) directs this label and releases only things he likes.

visiting, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 05:11 (three months ago) link

(though you probably knew that)

visiting, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 05:12 (three months ago) link

love that quiet logic record but it really isn't particularly hosono-ey, much more on a 90s chillout room tip

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 05:27 (three months ago) link

Maffew, my pleasure! Hard to believe that it's 2024 and nobody beat me to the work. It's great having something to contribute back to the pulsating orb of joy, generosity & good vibes which is the YMO corner of the Internet. These past six months of obsession would not have been as fun or, actually fuck understatement, soul-expanding if not for places like this forum.

Frog, that moment on Paraiso is my favorite part of that song too. Feels like being lifted straight to heaven by a host of angels, each as handsome as Ryuichi Sakamoto himself. It's *thematically* appropriate, it turns out -- as far as the lyrics go -- but sonically it's just pure whooooaaa.

Translating all this stuff is making me love it so much more. The words to Tokyo Rush are as perfect as the music would have you expect. That Honolulu line! Hosono is brilliant.

...

From way over there and from over here, it's vroom vroom vroom.
All year long, at the intersections, it's vroom vroom vroom.

Tokyo rush! Lotta people rush.
Tokyo rush! It's a gas, gas, gas.
Tokyo rush.
Occasionally I'll take refreshing trips to Honolulu.

Twist, twist, speeding down the meandering highway.
Twist, twist, getting pissed off.

Tokyo rush! Lotta people rush.
Tokyo rush! It's a gas, gas, gas.
Tokyo rush.

From Moscow and from Dhaka, it's vroom vroom vroom.
All year long, at the air control towers, it's vroom vroom vroom.

Tokyo rush! Exploding information rush.
Tokyo rush! Secret intelligence rush.
Tokyo rush.
Time to run away, fly direct to Hong Kong.

Down. Down. Feeling depressed. And no sooner do I realize it than:
Down. Down. Feeling ridiculous.

Tokyo rush! Lotta people rush.
Tokyo rush! It's a gas, gas, gas.
Tokyo rush.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 13:55 (three months ago) link

loving these translations

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 7 February 2024 16:12 (three months ago) link

My current favorite of all Hosono compositions: Worry Beads. His most heartfelt vocal performance on record? Those harmonies! And the group vocals! The piano! It's one of the most beautiful spiritual/religious songs I know, and I know some incredible ones. Plus the Japanese has that incredible Hosono wordplay I was talking about, which just makes it tons and tons and tons of fun to sing, and makes the touching parts of the lyrics still more touching.

Regarding the chant, Google turned this up: "Om Chandraya Namaha is a Sanskrit mantra used in Hindu and yogic practices. It is a mantra dedicated to the Hindu god of the moon, Chandra, and its repetition is said to bring clarity, insight, perspective, and calm, especially in times of confusion and distress."

...

Come, let us go!
Let us return
to the deserts of the moon
and plant the moon's seeds
within our hearts.

One hundred and eight troubles --
the first one, the second --
all you can do is count them.
But look! Your body is so light,
you can go anywhere,
any place at all you can think of,
you can go soon,
you can go right away.

(repeat chorus)

Count the worry beads --
basking in the moonlight,
you count the seeds,
and if you allow your breath to be taken away --
look! The deserts of the moon in your heart
spread forth, and then --
soon, right away --

Om Namah Chandraya
Shantih Shantih Chandraya

Come, let us go!
Let us return
to the deserts of the moon
and plant the moon's seeds
within our hearts.

The first bead for that child's sake.
The second bead for this child's sake.
But, everybody, look! The thread is unraveling,
you can go anywhere,
any place at all you can think of,
you can go soon,
you can go right away.

Om Namah Chandraya
Shantih Shantih Chandraya

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 8 February 2024 12:01 (three months ago) link

Now for Shimendoka (Song of Four Directions) -- a few months back I stumbled on the Chinese translation, and was moved me to tears (which is normally more Takahashi's ballpark). While reading, I forgot how happy a song it actually is. But it's got that core of desperate longing. Lately I've been listening to it every morning, as a prayer and a pick-me-up. Great way to begin the day. (Though I should admit I stole the idea from the song's YouTube comment section. YouTube also supplied the video I'll link to after the lyrics.)

Delving into the Japanese was great fun. The full translation that the dictionary supplied for the term I rendered "wicked demon" is "demon who hinders Buddhist training / demon who obstructs sentient beings from maintaining moral behaviour."

...

In the morning I'll set out
from my west-facing door
for Bhārat, where lotus flowers bloom,
going to meet the gods.

The way may be full of flowers or full of storms,
but it doesn't matter, I'm going.
I'm shaking off sad words and heading out.

When the flowers are in bloom, I'll set out
for southern seas,
where the hot winds are blowing --
to bask in Caribbean sunsets.

The way may be full of flowers or full of storms,
but it doesn't matter, I'm going.
I'm shaking off sad words and heading out.

Wicked demons, get lost.
Evil devils, get lost.
Wicked demons, get lost.
Evil devils, get lost.
Out of my way.

When the wind comes blowing, I'll set out
towards that eastern sky,
to Chaldea, country of the magicians --
to bask in moonlight.

The way may be full of flowers or full of storms,
but it doesn't matter, I'm going.
I'm shaking off sad words and heading out.

And when night falls, I'll arrive
at that northern island
and find you pursuing the phoenix
down the streets of your city.

You need to be a little careful
when you're trying to catch that thing,
it's so easy to get burned by its flames!

Wicked demons, get lost.
Evil devils, get lost.
Wicked demons, get lost.
Evil devils, get lost.
Out of my way.

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RRsX35pyEA

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 9 February 2024 15:42 (three months ago) link

A simple one today -- though the background is rich enough -- Japanese Rhumba. It's a so-called "GI song"," copyrighted 1951, written by an American soldier stationed in Japan, surnamed Miller (no agreement about his first name). From an essay by Minako Waseda:

Some GI songs also employ the so-called "Bamboo English" -- a form of pidgin characterized by a crude mixture of English with Japanese words and phrases, often in corrupted pronunciation and with limited syntactic possibilities. It was a language developed in the relationship between GIs and their Japanese girlfriends.

So the Japanese is full of simple phrases that you probably know anyway (precisely correct and in their polite form, like "oyasuminasai" instead of just "oyasumi" for "good night"), but the grammar is kind of wonky and the sentences halting. stroke of Hosonian subversive genius was assigning lead vocals to Tib Kamayatsu, a jazz singer of the previous generation, 67 years old in 1978. As I hear it, these lyrics delivered by that so evidently old voice makes it less of a song about how people fumble towards love, or motions of love, even in unusual and politically incorrect circumstances, and more a song of love boiled down to its absolute, core, universal essentials.

...

Where are you go...? Here, welcome, yeah?
Excuse me. Uhh. Good morning.

Japanese rhumba, ay ay ay.
Japanese rhumba, ay ay.
Japanese rhumba, ay ay ay.
Good morning!

What is it, Mama-san? Hurry up, Papa-san. Yes.
Excuse me, young lady. Wait a moment, please.

Japanese rhumba, ay ay ay.
Japanese rhumba, ay ay.
Japanese rhumba, ay ay ay.
Wait a moment, please!

What, uhh, I mean -- beautiful, yes? Your make-up. Yes.
What do you... I mean, hi. Good afternoon.

Japanese rhumba, ay ay ay.
Japanese rhumba, ay ay.
Japanese rhumba, ay ay ay.
I mean, hi! Good afternoon!

Good evening.
Good evening.
Good evening.
Good night.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 10 February 2024 06:39 (three months ago) link

There are a couple of mostly incomprehensible English versions of Asadoya Yunta floating around. I thought I'd give it a shot myself, but the lyrics are a poem from the 1930s and I have enough difficulty with contemporary Japanese.

One thing, though; the chorus, which is so old that nobody (Japanese or western) has a clue as to its meaning, has the word "Hari" ... both Paraiso and Bon Voyage Co were released as "Harry Hosono" records, and it makes me wonder to what extent that Hari in Asadoya Yunta helped make it a candidate for Paraiso.

With Paraiso done, I'll probably be jumping around a bit. I definitely want to do all of Hosono House soon. I'm scared of Bon Voyage Co -- my impression is that the album is Hosono Wordplay Central.

I wanted to work on Hurricane Dorothy today, but someone beat me to it, back in 2021:

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/hurricane-dorothy-hurricane-dorothy.html

The same someone also did Akiko's Rose Garden: a metaphor for her creative process! Maybe. I'm always reading metaphors for the creative process into things.

https://lyricstranslate.com/en/rose-garden-rose-garden.html

So here's Androgena from SFX instead. Such a cool song. Miharu Koshi singing harmony. SFX in general is one of my favorites -- though, what does that mean when talking about the Hosono catalogue...? They're all my favorites. He's my favorite artist. I'd have a miserable time trying to pick a Hosono top five, even.

Still! SFX has a vibe and atmosphere like nothing else I've ever heard. Maybe except John Frusciante's Enclosure -- the mad scientist locked away in his lab tower, shutting out the rest of the world, kind of sound.

I have no idea what the reference to Agatha's miracle is. All that a search turned up was a Japanese listener mentioning that those words confounded them too -- in a welcome way.

...

Lunatic Androgena!
Lunatic Androgena!
Shining inside the gods' hand-mirror.
You employ white magic
and let your silhouette
reflect the sky.

Lunatic Androgena.
Lunatic Andro-genius.
Dazzling Eros of the moon!
Hiding your winged body
in garments made of dazzling light.

Gena, Gena!
Agatha's miracle,
a sad kind of joy.
Gena, Gena!
Where are you going, Gena,
vanishing now, like an angel?

(repeat second verse)

(repeat chorus)

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 11 February 2024 07:39 (two months ago) link

I wonder with the repeated references to androgyny, the line is alluding to Saint Agatha whose breasts were cut off in her martyrdom.

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 11 February 2024 07:49 (two months ago) link

Oh, right on! I didn't even make the androgyny connection -- I was thinking Hosono was playing on Andromeda.

I don't have any albums in hard copies and today got a torrent that included artwork from a Paraiso reissue... which came complete with English translations. So I feel a little silly -- though I don't regret doing it, since there are shortcuts taken here and there by the official translator. But also a couple of grammar mistakes in mine, the kind that affect the meaning: in Worry Beads, we're being ENCOURAGED to count the seeds as a way to illumination, instead of what I understood -- the suggestion that counting them won't be of much use since it won't make your worries go away. And in Shimendoka, it's the narrator who's going to chase the firebird in that town on the northern island, and not the old friend he mentions. But it's also encouraging that I've made so FEW mistakes. Onwards!

Do the Light in the Attic LP reissues come with lyric translations?

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 12 February 2024 02:38 (two months ago) link

Here's the song with which the Tropical Trilogy originated, track 4 on the almighty Dandy, Nettaiya (Sultry Night). Hosono has said that he was originally envisioning a more Band-esque, "Hosono House 2" arrangement for it. That would have emphasized the city scenes. Instead, with ole Martin Denny in mind, he decided to go tropical, leaning into the fantastical/imagined elements of the lyric -- the things that AREN'T present, that need to be summoned by his imagination. No wonder Paraiso is such a spiritual record (or that Chow Chow Dog is apparently about Nirvana?!).

...

The submerged sea.
The floating island.
The moon that makes
the stillness full.

In Tokyo, at about this time,
the asphalt is melting,
the streets becoming
streaming rivers.

In Shanghai, at about this time,
the pots of fish will be at rolling boils
and the wind wandering the city.

Mm mmmmm.
Mm mmmmm.
Close your eyes.

Fragrant water.
Drowsing ferns.
This is the Pure Land.
Hot as hell.

At about this time, in Minnesota,
the eggs will have boiled through.
At night, it's impossible to sleep.

I think of Trinidad
and it hurries across the world to me.
It must be so lovely there tonight.

The submerged night.
The floating dream.
A full heart holds
the wind within it.

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 12 February 2024 12:11 (two months ago) link

I've got some of the LitA reissues. though I think they were actually made by Great Tracks in association with Alfa...either way pretty good repressings. but I don't think there are any translations of the lyrics. in fact I think the Paraiso liners are all in Japanese despite that pressing being mostly for Western markets. the Philharmony and OSS ones have extensive interviews in them which are very nice. I can send photos of them but I think they're all on Discogs anyway.

frogbs, Monday, 12 February 2024 14:56 (two months ago) link

I'd love to see photos of those English pages, Frog! I'm not too adept at Discogs but all I found was some super lo-res scans of the Hosono House bits, impossible to actually read.

Decided to face my fears and tackle something from Bon Voyage Co., specifically Tokyo Shyness Boy, because it's short. The middle verse was tricky because it plays off (as far as I can tell) stereotypes about Tokyo -- first that Tokyoites make a lot of money and spend it all as soon as they get it, the second an old saying, from Tokugawa Shogunate times -- "fistfights and fires are the flowers of Edo," because there were so ridiculously many major fires (read into this! it's wild!). Still not positive I got that line quite right. But the first and third verses were easy.

...

Bright red spreads fast over my face from my neck: I'm shy!
Moreover, when I talk, I tend to stammer: I'm shy!
No doubt about it,
I'm an authentic Tokyo Shyness Boy.

I spend all my money overnight. Afterwards, I regret it deeply.
As far as fistfights and fires go, I prefer fireworks.
As a matter of fact,
I'm a Tokyo Shyness Boy.

In the warm sunlight, I will catch a cold and blow my nose.
At the height of summer, my heart will suddenly grow numb with cold.
To be frank with you --
achoo -- Tokyo Shyness Boy.

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 07:45 (two months ago) link

An obscure one today, from Chu Kosaka's '75 Horo, an album with a great backstory. Hosono after Hosono House really wanted to make a funk/soul/R&B sort of record. Each time he picked up a bass, he would go right into funk riffs. His band (still called Caramel Mama then, later Tin Pan Alley) excelled at funk. So he wrote a bunch of songs in that mode, only to discover that when he put his vocals over that sound, the effect was ruined. Naturally, Hosono was upset, and when he was talking with friend/collaborator Makoto Kubata about it, Kubata told him, "Are you really that surprised? We all know you're just a tropical dandy at heart." -- that bit of lore has been documented in an interview on the English internet somewhere, but what I discovered on the Chinese side is that Hosono felt his old Apryl Fool bandmate/vocalist Chu Kosaka DID have the right voice for the task, and so the '75 Kosaka album Horo came to be. Hosono produces. The band is Tin Pan Alley with Akiko Yano on piano and Minako Yoshida, Taeko Ohnuki, and Tatsuro Yamashita as backup vocalists. There are four new Hosono songs, two remakes of songs from the last (and best!) Happy End album, a good if string-drenched Yano tune, and two solid Kosaka originals. Two of the four new Hosonos appear on the 20th Century Pops Box and kick unholy amounts of ass. Another two don't (appear on there, or kick quite as much ass), but they're good too.

So, today's translation is a Horo song that's not on the Pops Box, called Ryusei Toshi (The City of Meteors).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBUi6R52oRs

Hosono's tune, with lyrics by Takashi Matsumoto of Happy End, who probably just around this time was giving up his drumming and beginning his work as a full-time lyricist. At his best, Matsumoto is sublime, one of the best lyricists I know. At some point in the '70s or '80s, Japan's record labels began to treat him as a hit-making factory, and I'm not sure how his quality control has been over the years. Kimi ni Mune Kyun has nice touches but is nothing revolutionary, yeah? The City of Meteors, for its part, is a simple, sweet love song.

...

Your skin is pale flame in the light of the moon.
The city spreads out from your fluttering skirt.

I'm madly in love, always.
I'm madly in love with you.
I'm dozing off with my head in your lap
and we'll stay just that way until morning.

A dream is being woven by your curly hair, your lips.
H. G. Wells' submarine floats by outside the window.

I'm madly in love, always.
I'm madly in love with you.
Captain Nemo plays a melody on the Hammond organ.

Like a meteor shower raining down on the city,
I am trembling as I hold you,
and in this way, the night goes by.

I'm madly in love, always.
I'm madly in love with you.
And with warmth in my heart,
I doze off.

(followed by the first chorus three times through)

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 14:54 (two months ago) link

Oh! Also! I wanted to ask -- does anyone on here have Miharu Koshi's Parallelisme on LP? I'm crazy about that record (who wouldn't be, Miharuomi forever) and curious about the words, but most of the lyrics aren't available online. Discogs suggests that there IS a lyric sheet in the LP, but the scan is too lo-res for me to make much out.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 15:01 (two months ago) link

thanks again, these are fun to read :)

would appreciate if you could figure out what he was thinking on the scat-singing section of Tokyo Shyness Boy...by far the funniest moment in his catalogue if you ask me. I have to think he realized how funny it sounded.

as for the liner notes - I have Hosono House, Paraiso, Philharmony, Omni Sight Seeing, and Medicine Comp. I can try to take pictures of them when I've got some time.

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 15:07 (two months ago) link

I have to think he realized how funny it sounded.

He even went as far as to multi-track!

I didn't expect the answer would be so easily available. Turns out that, lyrically, the song is about Keiichi Suzuki, and that Hosono wrote it as a response to Moonriders' sleazy late-night-alley song Hinotama Boy (Fireball Boy), off their own '76 release, which was written about Hosono. And what do you think the Moonriders song ends with...

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 16:48 (two months ago) link

I have to think he realized how funny it sounded.

He even went as far as to multi-track!

I didn't expect the answer would be so easily available. Turns out that, lyrically, the song is about Keiichi Suzuki, and that Hosono wrote it as a response to Moonriders' sleazy late-night-alley song Hinotama Boy (Fireball Boy), off their own '76 release, which was written about Hosono. And what do you think the Moonriders song ends with...

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 16:48 (two months ago) link

hah, never would've made the connection. haven't listened to Tropical Dandy in a while...they desperately need to reissue those

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 17:25 (two months ago) link

Here is Track 3 on Side B of Tropical Dandy, Sanji no Komori Uta (3 o'Clock Lullaby), the solo acoustic song that's followed immediately by its own, lushly arranged instrumental version.

In the Tropical Trilogy era, Hosono was really outdoing himself with album closers (or... well, I don't know what to call this, sort-of-closers? it's the last song with vocals, at least, and everything after feels like one long and ingenious epilogue). Exotica Lullaby is similarly beautiful, lyrically. What a spirit a person must have to write songs as sweet, tender, and wistful as these two (and Honey Moon, that one's outstanding too, as the music would lead you to imagine).

...

Dream thee now, here on my lap
while an old record is playing.
And you, wind; and you, light; outside my window there.
This is the three o'clock lullaby.

Until somebody knocks on the door,
we'll be stuffing this old magic bottle
full of tea and full of stories
here beneath a cold tin roof.

When we've discussed the town gossip
and when we've sung that hit song even though it's a hit song,
tell me about the rest of your dream.
That will be my lullaby.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 15 February 2024 12:18 (two months ago) link

Not a lot of people on this thread gravitate to Happy End or the early Hosono like I do, so I don't know how much interest this stuff holds for you folks, but now that I've been translating it, I'm addicted to Tropical Dandy all over again. I'll fill in the blanks in the coming days (sans mostly-Portuguese opener).

Here's Honey Moon. Beautifully sparse in Japanese, the personal pronouns vaguely implied rather than stated. The ending's open to interpretation: is he talking about death? There's such blissful relaxation in Hosono's delivery when he sings that penultimate line (1:31 to 1:45 or thereabouts).

...

My heart is the setting sun.
The honey moon is in the sky.
At night angels will come to earth.
Our dreams are the sway of their hair.

A serenade like the touch of silk.
The honey moon is in the sky.
My chest is a pegasus, trembling,
its mane swaying.

Shall I captivate you with a love song?
The full moon is approaching on tiptoe.
You and I will head back up to the moon --
but not quite yet, it's still too soon.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 16 February 2024 07:18 (two months ago) link

Oops, missed the last line: after some more humming, there's:

Here we sway.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 16 February 2024 07:19 (two months ago) link

Dandying on. Track 1 on Side B, Hyouryuuki (The Castaway's Song). People talk about that feeling of liberation in Hosono's music, of "anything is allowed" and "anything is okay." Lyrically, it's much the same thing, as I'm learning daily. Harry felt like writing a song from a castaway's perspective? Well...

...

The phantom of the town I'm from
comes floating underneath me.
I'm not going anywhere.
I'm on a raft.

(Chorus)
At last I make it to a deserted island,
the merest shadow of a man.
Entrusting my life to the heat,
I start to whistle,
as out of tune as ever.
Some things never change.

The town floats onward, underneath me.
I pole the raft along.
If I dive down, I'll remember very clearly
the town that I was born in.

(and the chorus again)

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 17 February 2024 09:54 (two months ago) link

Last track on Side A of ropical Dandy, Peking Duck. Didn't expect this to literally be about a Peking Duck. The red shoes presumably being the fire as the roasting commences. A song of Buddhist sympathy, then? (Chow Chow Dog, the song on Bon Voyage Co with all the references to nirvana, is about a dog kept for meat -- sensing a bit of a theme here).

...

In Yokohama, rain falls on a brightly lit street.
It's just like that old movie "Singing in the Rain" --
the rain, the man, his song.

You're wearing red shoes,
you're in the company of three foreigners,
you're stuck in a cage and bewildered.
Chinatown is an ocean of flame.

(Chorus)
Escape, duck, hurry!
The fire is bouncing, crackling, howling.
Escape from this city that burns bright red!
You're clearly the so-called Peking Duck.

In Yokohama, on a brightly-lit street,
the fire climbs higher.
It's just like it would be in a dream:
Chinatown is an ocean of flame.

(Chorus)

The rain and the burning flame are buffeting your back.
Escape!
Your chest is getting firmer.
You're becoming that so-called Peking Duck.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 18 February 2024 13:53 (two months ago) link

The last Tropical Dandy song: Kinu Kaidou (Silk Road), Track 3 on Side A, my favorite on the album. It's like Asatoya Yunta on Paraiso, I could play it a hundred times in a row and not get bored.

...

I swagger through the magic wasteland,
carrying strange artifacts.
Malevolent demons, make way for me!
If not, I'll slap you down.

(Chorus)
As I go, I call out to the clouds
and in one bound soar over a hundred thousand leagues.
The Silk Road goes to the ends of the earth,
unto even the markets of Persia.

Worthless scum,
I'll knock you flying!
Have a taste of this karate chop
and flee, tail between legs.

(Chorus)

The road leads on
to the great cities of the west.
I will find you and challenge you
though it takes all my strength to do it!

(Chorus)

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 19 February 2024 13:13 (two months ago) link

Have a taste of this karate chop

lol

frogbs, Monday, 19 February 2024 13:30 (two months ago) link

The new work term at uni is looming so I won't be able to keep this pace up for long, but on the bright side, there's not much left of the stuff released under Hosono's own name. Happy End translations are a project I'm looking forward to passionately but Matsumoto has his own tricky sides (less pure wordplay, more poetic/literary elements), and I'll probably want to boost my language skills first. The Happy End lyrics are phenomenal.

Speaking of poetic/literary elements, here's another Hosono song from Horo, this time with his own lyrics: the great, chilled-out, mildly eerie Bon Voyage Hatoba (Bon Voyage Pier). Here's the Horo version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhaOJlEB81g

And the re-recorded version on Kosaka's next album, 1978's Morning. Sakamoto's on record as a fan of this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcBQinNKy7A

It may not sound like much at first, but it works itself under your skin.

The second verse was practically incomprehensible to me. Casting around for help, I found a Japanese poet singling out the second verse as a sign of Hosono's lyrical skills. So there you have it, Matsumoto wasn't the only literary one! (That poet also quoted a segment of an interview in which Hosono was asked why he didn't become a professional lyricist. The answer: "Well, Matsumoto was around.")

...

We're twenty kilometers away from the dead of night:
dripping darkness, oozing sky.
Come along, come along.
Soon the city will break the surface.

The wandering city -- love's hidden home --
unable to settle itself in time.
Come along, come along.
Together we'll step right over the night.

(Chorus)
Bon voyage.
Midnight in the harbor of the heart.
Bon voyage.

We're twenty kilometers away from the pier:
waves dripping, made of memories.
Come along, come along.
Soon the sea will fall asleep.

(Chorus)

We're twenty kilometers away from the dead of night:
dripping darkness, oozing sky.
Come along, come along.
Together we'll fly straight across the night.

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 20 February 2024 13:11 (two months ago) link

Exotica Lullaby: another song that makes me cry now that I know the lyrics. The words off the page alone don't do it, but man, when that prechorus hits, with its shift to minor, and Hosono comes in singing those lines!

...

A boat is flying across the moon.
I wonder where it's going.
Behind the clouds, on the floating island,
the gondola sways,
and sways, and sways, and sways,
carrying children's dreams on board.
Every night, it comes to meet us.
Can you see it?

(Prechorus)
If you're crying -- if the tears won't stop --
how about we go up there together?
We need only sprinkle a little fairy powder,
and look, we're floating!

(Chorus)
This is your and my lullaby.
An exotic lullaby, lullaby, lullaby.

(repeat second half of the verse)
(repeat prechorus)
(repeat chorus)

Every night, the gondola comes to meet us.
Let's get on.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 14:09 (two months ago) link

that's a cute little acoustic guest room cover

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 22 February 2024 08:01 (two months ago) link

thanks so much for these translations, hopefully they can all be archived somewhere. though ILX is pretty safe ;)

is there a tracklist for the tribute album out anywhere? wonder if it's gonna be mostly Hosono House stuff or if it's gonna dig into the weeds a bit. there's such a variety of stuff to choose from.

frogbs, Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:08 (two months ago) link

Thanks Frog! I'm slowly collecting them on my own site/blog (grainsparrow.blogger.com), which is technically no safer than anywhere else on the internet, but it'll be where I make revisions -- the words to Focus are in much better shape already!

The album Mare linked to being linked to celebrations of Hosono House's 50th anniversary (I looked around for a tracklist too and got nothing) makes me wonder whether Light in the Attic might be saving reissues of Tropical Dandy and Bon Voyage Co for 2025 and 2026.

I did a translation yesterday but ran out of time to post it. Here's Black Peanuts, a Tropical Dandy outtake that ended up on the immaculate Side B of Bon Voyage Co. I figured it was a novelty number... not exactly. It's part-tribute to Charlie Parker's Salt Peanuts, and part political satire -- about something called the Lockheed Scandal, which apparently involved lotta big-name government figures in Japan getting bribed by an airline company, something along those lines. A "peanut" was code name for the bribes, one peanut amounting to $3333.

Love Hosono's vocals on this.

...

(Verse)
Black peanuts!
You can buy a poor man with one.
Yum, salt peanuts!
Do come and buy one on occasion.
Black peanuts!
Pick a peanut you like and bribe someone with it.
Magic peanuts!
They're perfect for purchasing the poor.

(Chorus)
Oh shopkeeper, you're making so merry.
You hawk your fares resoundingly
in a voice that's so, so loud.
It's going to be a problem, you know.
"Come on in! Come on in!"
Fine, but -- through the back door.
And say it in a subdued voice:
"Go ahead, please -- take one!"

(repeat verse and chorus)

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 23 February 2024 02:06 (two months ago) link

(Except dot blogspot dot com for the translation/revision archive.)

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 23 February 2024 02:08 (two months ago) link

Huh. I thought the song was really about peanuts.

frogbs, Friday, 23 February 2024 04:53 (two months ago) link

Frog has written elsewhere that

1. Sports Men sounds to him kinda like Hosono doing Takahashi,
2. the BGM song Happy End is like Sakamoto doing Hosono,
3. and Mass is like Hosono doing Sakamoto.

There's actually a track on Coincidental Music, Normandia, that is *literally* Hosono doing Sakamoto. The guy who commissioned the song asked Hosono to write him a Sakamoto song. This was post-YMO, summer '84, and Sakamoto heard it in a commercial on TV and thought, "Wow, that sure sounds like me." And then discovered the composer was Hosono.

So, I think Pom Pom Jyouki (Pom Pom Steam) is Hosono doing Eiichi Ohtaki. It's lighthearted, fast, fun -- like merton on RYM describing Ohtaki's solo debut, "it's there, it makes you happy, it's gone" -- and like a lot of Ohtaki, it's a quirky rewrite of a fifties song, in this case Sea Cruise -- no one's trying to hide it, the whole chorus line of Sea Cruise gets quoted. Hosono takes the song far away from its origins but the skeletal structure is the same.

And these lyrics! My respect for Hosono just keeps growing. It's so playful, but Hosono leans in to the scenario with 100% commitment and 100% warmth. And it works so well with the arrangement. I kept cracking up as I worked on this.

...

Bopping along to this old man rhythm,
in the night breeze, in the harbor light.
How about goin' to the pier? (Yeah, let's go.)
So it's decided. Stylish and dapper, we set out in large numbers.
About time to head back.
Are you crazy, no way!
We get on board gladly.
Pom pom steam!

(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
A fair wind moves us along: swoosh.

(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
It's so comfortable, pom pom steam.

The semi-diesel engine eggs us on.
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire.
That girl over there is really cute. (Yeah, really cute!)
So it's decided. Stylish and dapper, we set out in large numbers.
About time to enjoy the night breeze,
which can only be done on deck.
Pom pom steam!

(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
A fair wind moves us along: swoosh.

(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
(Swoosh swoosh swoosh.)
Pom pom steam!
Pom pom steam!
Pom pom steam!
Pom pom steam!

Down on the street it's pretty crazy, some band's playing boogie-woogie.
Won't you let me take you on a sea cruise?
One of us got jilted. (Yeah, jilted.)
So it's decided. Stylish and dapper, we're all going to dance.
About time to head back.
Are you crazy, no way!
It's so comfortable.
Pom pom steam!

Swoosh swoosh swoosh...

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 24 February 2024 00:06 (two months ago) link

Here is the twice-teased Chow Chow Dog, written after encounters with dogs destined to be killed for food, in the same Chinatown in Yokohama that inspired Peking Duck.

Tin Pan Alley was so good at reggae. Tatsuo Hayashi forever!

...

Inescapable jail.
Inescapable jail.

Shortly before dawn,
I will bid this world farewell.
But before that
I will sleep like a log
and dream.

I am a chow chow dog.
I am the carefree Prince of Woof.
I'm the hero of the story!
Like, for instance, Rin Tin Tin.

(Chorus)
You are a chow chow dog.
You must wake up
if you wish to know
the road to heaven,
You are a chow chow dog.
Prajñāpāramitā.
Chant it, and nirvana will blossom in your heart.
(Nirvana I say, you chow chow dog!)

(Bridge)
The locale? The far end of China --
far, far, far away.
Tied in chains.
Inescapable prison.
Inescapable jail.

Soon the day will break.
I will bid this world farewell.
I forget anything and everything
and dream.

You are a chow chow dog.
You are the carefree Prince of Woof.
The hero of the story.
Like, for instance, Rin Tin Tin.

(Chorus / What goes around must come around.)

(Bridge)

And then the footsteps of the demon
gradually get louder.
Break through the cage!
And, escaping, make straight for your distant hometown.

Ah, but this chow chow dog,
this carefree Prince of Woof,
is merely dreaming he's a hero,
that Rin Tin Tin that he adores.

(Chorus)

(Chorus / What goes around must come around.)

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 24 February 2024 23:20 (two months ago) link

music from memory recording artists the zenmenn have done their own brief versions of 'Asatoya Yunta', 'Shimendoka' and 'Saigo no Rakuen' in tribute to harry...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xllQpdOavBA

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 29 February 2024 22:47 (two months ago) link

Finally had time for a new translation: Bon Voyage Co's opener, Chouchou-san (Mister Butterfly).

...

Please teach me how to fly,
oh Mister Butterfly.
She ran away from Tokyo,
now she's an ocean liner girl.

The captain sails away.
Wait! Wait just a moment, please!
She boarded a ship out of Tokyo.
I need to go to her side.

Mister Butterfly -- captain, sir --
show me how to fly away with you.
As soon as I meet that girl,
we'll say farewell -- bye bye --
Mister Butterfly.

Please teach me how to fly,
oh Mister Butterfly.
The ocean liner ship is flying
from Tokyo to the ocean's end.

Captain, sir, wait!
Just for the sake of it,
wait just a moment, please!
Mister Butterfly flies off.
The ocean's end is paradise.

Mister Butterfly -- captain, sir --
show me how to fly away with you.
As soon as I meet that girl,
we'll say farewell -- bye bye --
Mister Butterfly.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:15 (two months ago) link

Love this version, listen to that lovely draggy drum intro, so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFXJNCVRDrU-

Maresn3st, Sunday, 10 March 2024 13:17 (two months ago) link

Yeah, that's an amazing version. Tin Pan Alley were (are? I think they reconvene now & then, still) one of the best bands to ever roam the earth. Thank God they recorded, like, 100000000 albums.

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 11 March 2024 05:01 (one month ago) link

Peak Kermit The Frog vocals from Harry too (not a criticism)

Maresn3st, Monday, 11 March 2024 09:41 (one month ago) link

Hosono's post-YMO '80s are absolutely insane... SFX and the Apogee & Perigee record from '84 rule, and I'm just now realizing that the Making of Non-Standard Music EP is top-notch too, a preview of what's to come with Monad (at least, on the B-side). The Monad records -- I can't even comprehend... Nokto is beyond beautiful, most of us know that already, so let me emphasize how generously Paradise View starts rewarding close, careful listens. Sounded samey and hard-to-fathom on first several listens, but just give it time. The Endless Talking feels like one of the wildest and weirdest ideas for an album ever: like a Best Of of the same year it came out in, and the one before; but deconstructed/remade into something new and unlike anything else in Hosono's discography -- as dark and nightmarish as Hosono gets. Sex, Energy and Star from '86 is more of a production job than a Hosono solo album, but it's fantastic all the same: it's very much the spirit of SFX carried forward into still more sublime realms of the insane. I had no idea digital drums could sound so good, so massive. Hosono did always know how to choose his collaborators. Echo de Miharu is a wonderfully nuts crossover between Koshi's chanson leanings and Hosono's deep ambient stuff. The Tale of Genji blows me away every time I listen, now -- the melodies are so slow and patient it can be hard to tell they're there. But they are, ohhh how they are. 1988 has the Marginal soundtrack which I'm still pretty new to (up on YT! It isn't all Hosono, but the other guy's tracks are great too). And then you get 1989 and Omni fuckin Sight Seeing. Comments on this thread got me pretty hyped for Omni and it *still* managed to exceed expectations. I haven't even got to the 20th Century Pops stuff from these years, there's probably a bunch of incredible stuff tucked away in there too...

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:36 (one month ago) link

at one point a bunch of those were going to get reissued! look:

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:50 (one month ago) link

oops, I Jimmed it. this is what i meant to post:

https://lightintheattic.net/products/mercuric-dance

https://lightintheattic.net/products/the-endless-talking

and so on. I think just the Monad records though.

luckily I have a copy of Coincidental Music. the others I really want. there were times when I thought I might win one from eBay at a not terrible price, alas they always get sniped at the last second.

The Endless Talking feels like one of the wildest and weirdest ideas for an album ever: like a Best Of of the same year it came out in, and the one before; but deconstructed/remade into something new and unlike anything else in Hosono's discography -- as dark and nightmarish as Hosono gets

it's genuinely bizarre. part of the reason I want a reissue is because sometimes they come with interviews and I'd really like to know what he was thinking with some of this. amusingly there are so many vaporwave artists who go for this unplaceable nightmare vibe using just synths and samplers but somehow Haruomi Hosono is the one who captured it better than any of them. probably before any of them were born too.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:55 (one month ago) link

yes, i too would love reissues of the Monad releaes for notes / insights into what he was thinking when making them. i was lucky to pick up the originals when they were still affordable but would happily replace them with reissues.

The Tale of Genji is my favourite.

Apogee & Perigee isn't a Hosono release is it? I thought it was Jun Togawa, though my favourite track, Hope is by the mighty Testpattern.

stirmonster, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:05 (one month ago) link

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stirmonster, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:05 (one month ago) link

There's two Hosono compositions on Apogee & Perigee (both sung by Jun), I don't know whether he actually plays on anything -- but surely the arrangements are 90% his own? And it must have been him picking the people involved. Who else do Jun Togawa, Miharu Koshi, and Takashi Matsumoto have in common? (Hosono as puppetmaster!)

The lack of context is bewildering, yes, and sometimes I get really curious... but other times, it can feel liberating too. When music so amazing seems to rise up out of absolutely nowhere, it makes me feel like anything is possible.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:21 (one month ago) link

I'll have to give that one another listen - I do think HH's production style is pretty easy to identify. when "Scandal Night" came up on Pacific Breeze 3 I could instantly tell there was Hosono involvement despite not actually knowing what the track was

frogbs, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:26 (one month ago) link

Coincidental Music is a huge favorite too. I'm not sure any other Hosono record has quite so many catchy things in one place. And even though everything on there was commissioned, and spans four years, I find it goes down real smooth as a start-to-finish listen. I guess when your creative spirit is burning as bright as Hosono's was at the time, it doesn't matter what you're doing stylistically, everything you do will sound of a piece.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:26 (one month ago) link

God that's weird, I could've sworn I saw the production credit for Apogee & Perigee go to Hosono, but now that I actually look it up again, I'm wrong, it's Kazusuke Obi (who was apparently involved with EVERYTHING YMO-family from BGM on to Wild and Moody... after which he crossed over into the VGM world and was involved with, for example, the soundtrack to Super Marip Brothers 3?! Who is this guy?!

Apogee & Perigee seems to be shrouded in even more mystery than most YMO-adjacent stuff. Discogs notes that the releases had no songwriting credits until some many-decades-later reissue identified *some* of them. So it could still be that Hosono did arrangements for everything but Queen Glacier. It sounds to me exactly like a sister record to Parallelisme, just poppier.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:38 (one month ago) link

Oh yeah, there it is!

https://galapagos-rec0rds.com/products/apogee-perigee-アポジー-ペリジー-超時空コロダスタン旅行記?variant=33050887553127

Other Japanese-language sites/blogs credit Hosono as producer too, and mention he drafted the storyline.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:53 (one month ago) link

I don't think that link came out right. Here's the English-language blurb on that site:

"Nikka Whisky's commercial project by YEN all-star lineup including Yuji Miyake, Test Pattern, Yoichiro Yoshikawa, Miharu Koshi, Jun Togawa, under Haruomi Hosono's production. A gorgeous techno-pop album consisting of an A-side incorporated into a story that goes to the moon. It is a total conceptual album including inserts."

And "細野晴臣 プロデュース" comes up a lot. Seems only Discogs has Obi credited with the production.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 21 March 2024 19:55 (one month ago) link

‘Translation changes the original meaning’: how 70s psych rockers Happy End ended the ‘Japanese rock controversy’

In 1969, Takasshi Matsumoto and Haruomi Hosono opted to defy rock trends by singing in Japanese, not English – paving the way for ‘city pop’ and J-pop

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:17 (one month ago) link

Thanks! Great detail about Hosono jotting down new band names on his commute. Somewhere I read/watched Hosono say that breaking up bands is a hobby of his.

And: "...and at 76 he continues to create, saying he’s hoping to start work on a new solo collection soon." Good news, but hasn't he been saying he's about to start work on a new solo collection for years now? Hosono, you magical old man, write us some new songs dammit!

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:33 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Man, I'm seriously digging Eating Pleasure, the 1980 Sandii (and Makoto Kubota) record produced by Hosono. It's got five Hosono originals and a version of Drip Dry Eyes that predates Neuromantic. On first however many listens it sounded like there was too much bland of-the-era pop between the summits of Hosono's Idol Era and Zoot Kook. I am here to tell you this is NOT TRUE. They wove the atmosphere real thick on this one. A much weirder and vibey-er record than it pretends to be!

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:57 (three weeks ago) link

It's one of those sneaky actually-it's-YMO albums, with YT on drums and Sakamoto credited with keyboards, Matsutake on computer...

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:06 (three weeks ago) link

that Drip Dry Eyes is so smooth. I didn't realize it predated Takahashi's own.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:10 (three weeks ago) link

surprised it hasn't been repressed yet. admittedly I haven't heard the whole thing but I will have to rectify that soon.

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:25 (three weeks ago) link

Its a real favourite of mine. I managed to pick up a cheap copy of the 2nd edition in Tokyo about 10 years ago.

mmmm, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:48 (three weeks ago) link

okay I've got it on now, definitely wilder than I was expecting. "Alive" is such a cool song

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:22 (three weeks ago) link

Artists with similar names that you get mixed up

Sandii & the Sunsetz
Sheena & the Rokkets

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 22:48 (three weeks ago) link

so good. 'zoot kook' still sounds like it was beamed in from the future.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 23:25 (three weeks ago) link

Zoot Kook feels like it launched a whole genre -- Yoko Kanno did a lot more good work within it in the '00s (and specifically sought out Chris Mosdell to help). Alive is wonderful.

mmmm, that's awesome -- not the greatest cover art, but I'm all for great albums in unassuming sleeves.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:41 (three weeks ago) link

the thing about the cover art is it just looks like all those 50s and 60 exotica albums with a hot girl on the sleeve. its not like say the Miharu Koshi albums which hint at the oddness of the music. wonder how many people bought it for that reason, put it on and were like what the hell am I listening to.

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 17:05 (three weeks ago) link

zoot kook: song of the week

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:53 (three weeks ago) link

i haven't heard Yoko Kanno - will be checking that out today i hope

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:54 (three weeks ago) link

damn, there's too much music. artists should only release one album, preferably just one song

z_tbd, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 18:55 (three weeks ago) link

apparently this is getting a reissue? never heard of this, apparently it's just a demo album but with songs written by a bunch of familiar names. Hosono produced it, apparently there are just a couple test pressings out there (one of which sold for 2 grand!)

https://www.discogs.com/release/9974042-Linda-Carriere-Haruomi-Hosono-Produced-%E7%B4%B0%E9%87%8E%E6%99%B4%E8%87%A3-%E8%A3%BD%E4%BD%9C-%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A8%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB

some of the tracks are available on YouTube, but not the Hosono-penned ones (unless I just can't find it). here's one...sounds great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuMSAfGPdbM

frogbs, Monday, 22 April 2024 14:08 (two weeks ago) link

oh, that's funny that this is getting a reissue. I listened to some of the stuff on YT a while ago and thought, "pretty cool, guess I'll never hear it all tho." guess again!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 22 April 2024 15:37 (two weeks ago) link

1977! That's the year of Our Connection, isn't it? -- for me, one of the peaks of Hosono's songwriting discography. I had no idea he'd done another five songs for someone else that year.

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 08:58 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIyZn2UbU4I

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:31 (two days ago) link

popped up in my feed - not sure exactly what it is but John Carroll Kirby is involved

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Wednesday, 8 May 2024 12:33 (two days ago) link


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