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This just popped into my inbox - Everett True's new magazine. Not sure how much it's going to differ much to Careless Talk Costs Lives, except for having stuff on Japanese Horrorcore, though.

The debut issue of Plan B is out next week.

Its featured artists include Chicks On Speed, Kaito, Von Bondies, Lightning Bolt, Spektrum, !!!, The Pastels, New Black, Gravy Train!!!, The Cribs, Sunn O))), OOIOO, The Mountain Goats, Graham Coxon, Cocorosie, The Saints...and many more.

There's an article from Neil Kulkarni about cleaning out his chimney.
There's an article from Ian Svenonius raving about his favourite board game.
There's a rant from Peter Bagge that'll get us in trouble with the FBI.

There's a brand new media section, wittily entitled Media - where you can read about our favourite Outsider Art, including Olympia WA postcard creator Stella Marrs, Japanese horrorcore, children's books illustrators, Charles Schulz (all right, it's not *entirely* Outsider Art!), pirate radio and blogs.

There's a front section entitled The Void - starring Thurston Moore, Jeffrey Lewis, Erase Errata and Rammellzee.

There is superlative photography, courtesy of Sarah Bowles and her ace team.
There are superlative illustrations, courtesy of Andrew Clare and his ace team.

And it all costs £2.95 from your local store. Nice.

Or order direct, post-free, from www.planbmag.com/order

Cheers, Everett True (Editor-In-Chief)

Mary Lasso, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sure it'll be great, though I admit to being a touch frustrated that David M., who is handling the editing, never followed through with me on ideas for articles after earlier expressing interest. I can't complain seeing as I'm happily esconced at Loose Lips -- still, though, David, check your e-mail more often!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

This has actually got quite a lot of stuff I'm inteested in, Chicks On Speed, Lightning Bolt, Sunn O)), Thurston Moore, Jap Horrorcore and Erase Errata.

I'm gonna get it.

mei (mei), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd hit it.

Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone know if the Sunn0)) thing is an interview? The only interviews I've ever read with them are pretty shoddy, but I'd love to read a good one.

Jason J, Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

This has actually got quite a lot of stuff I'm inteested in, Chicks On Speed, Lightning Bolt, Sunn O)), Thurston Moore, Jap Horrorcore and Erase Errata.

And Gravy Train!!!! And Ramellzee. I think I shall enjoy this

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Sunn0))'s a 1-page interview...

The whole thing looks fucking stunning.

Chris Houghton (chrish), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Gray Train are FUNEEEE.

Thee was a good SunO))) interview in terrorizer a few years ago.

mei (mei), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
Does anyone know when Plan B's 1st proper issue comes out? Will it be stocked in WH Smiths etc or will it be the usual harder to find than a Dave Matthews fan with good taste?

Stewart G Fletcher, Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i cant believe anyone would want to listen to chicks on speed let alone read about them. the most contrived band of the last decade.

jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

But, but, COS are great!

mei (mei), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

issue 1.s out already, i'm sure of it, and if it's not in smiths it'll be in yer local friendly corner shop thing place.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 5 August 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I got sent a copy of this apparently for free and I'm not sure why. Unless my CTCL subscription overran a bit and I was due an issue or two of this also. Either way I am not complaining because this is a lovely and beautiful thing, it is CTCL through a kaleidoscope and a swirl of heady joy

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

the second issue (#1) is due in september, i think! x

stevie (stevie), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex - we are indeed mailing out issues to people with leftover subs copies from CTCL. Here's a taster of what (might) be in the next issue of Plan B from a recent mailout. More info from http://www.planbmag.com.

Plan B has a new issue coming out in mid-September. It will quite possibly feature - among many other fine names - Kelis, The 5678s, Detroit Cobras, Shystie, Comets On Fire, Jack Rose, Marine Girls, Nick Cave, M Ward, Bill Callahan, Ian Svenonius, Dizzee Rascal, The Residents, The Bug, the Trachtenburgs, a spread on fashion, graffiti hip-hop, Marc Baines on comics, caustic US comedian David Cross, GbV, Numbers, Red Krayola, The Faint, Le Tigre, lego bricks, Piney Gir, Susanna And The Magical Orchestra, Joanne Newsom, Devandra Banhart, Har Mar Superstar, Neil Kulkarni on himself, David McNamee on evidence, Miss AMP on computer games, Fiery Furnaces, Jon Spencer, The Thermals, Gravenhurst, Trencher, VHF, LCD Soundsystem, David Thomas, Don Letts, Planet Mu, Est'elle. Doubtless, that list will change and mutate as time passes, but....brrrr. It's exciting.

Chris Houghton (chrish), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like this magazine an awful lot

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anyone really read this zine seriously?

Lazza, Friday, 6 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...
Picked up the new issue last week and it's very, very good. AWESOME illustrations, especially.

Michael M, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

There is a copy of plan B in my flat. I have hardly touched it. There is nothing in there I don't know about already, and I do think that is its downfall. It isn't as brave as I would like - it looks pretty for sure.

3underscore (___), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)

You jest, surely? It reads like a bad 6th form English essay crossed with the diary of an angsty teenage gimp. It is perhaps the most terrible read that's (not) available on the news stands.

It looks like I designed it, too.

Pikmin, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Music magazines in the UK worth reading:

Mojo (Not as fuddy duddy these days as you'd imagine)
The Wire (Never read most of it, but makes you feel swanky walking around with it)
Kings (On the basis of issue two this has great potential, if only beacause they gave the great Devin The Dude a four page interview)
DJ (For Neil Kulkarni's crackpot reviews page)

Lil Jon's Mom, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

You jest, surely?

Not saying it is beautifully designed, but it is better than many. Actually, on raising the question you remind me of one article I read in it which I couldn't follow because the text was all positioned counter-intuitively.

So - Plan B. it is on nice paper.

3underscore (___), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

new Loose Lips Sink Ships hits the stands this week; we have a launch party/gig at Brixton Windmill on friday. check www.llss.tv for details...

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"It reads like a bad 6th form English essay crossed with the diary of an angsty teenage gimp. It is perhaps the most terrible read that's (not) available on the news stands."

A bit of a generalisation surely? Granted, some of it's like that, but at least they're encouraging different approaches to music writing. And that produces some killer stuff that wouldn't be printed elsewhere. There's a Neil Kulkarni rant in there about pop and rock that cuts through all the interminable rockism/popism debates in one fell swoop. He argues that the ephemerality of pop is exactly what makes it immortal, while rock's striving for immortality often renders it obsolete. But he also sticks up for extreme and avant garde music. The villains are those in the middle ground he says, using that wonderful adjective "cunting" twice in one paragraph (in reference to Robbie Williams and U2) The guy is a champ.
Plenty of other great stuff in there - Shane Moritz on Crooked Rain, JD Beauvallet on French rock, Alistair Fitchett on Magnetic Fields, not to mention all the gorgeous photos and illustrations. Gotta shamelessly big up my friend Mark's Park Attack double exposure. One of these happy accidents, it looks cool.

I also have to question whoever said, "it doesn't have anything I didn't know about before". Well, lucky you. Like many mags, they cover established acts (albeit far more obscure and interesting ones that yer average mag), but they feature more new bands than anything else out there, Loose Lips excepted.

stew, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder why I dreamed about Loose Lips and not Plan B... I mean, I would murder Bono if he tried to steal my Plan B by poking me with me.sharp sticks. The Windmill? That's down the street from me.

The Grain of Sand in Lambeth That Satan Cannot Find (kate), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, which Friday? 26th? I have stupid freaking rehearsal. Why am I still going when I quit that band? I'm going to your party instead.

The Grain of Sand in Lambeth That Satan Cannot Find (kate), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

yay! fun times!!

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

if I feel better on Friday I will come to this, even though the flyer looks TERRIFYING.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

There's an issue two of Kings? But issue one came out aaaagggggeeees ago... still, good for them. The first one was entertaining enough.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

But, um, Kulkarni's a good writer. The rest of them aren't.

Devin The Dude is a genius - all magazines should be forced to cover him. By law.

Pikmin, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Lex you *must* come - it should be quite teh party

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

cool, is this the issue that has an ex thing by me in it?

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
i dunno, it's great the writers have all the coke and hookers they can handle now time-warner have taken control, but... has plan b lost is soul?

N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

we don't have coke and hookers, but we have been known to steal booze from backstage parties to host our own private priapic bacchanals on swedish riverfronts

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

i think the tv channel might be a sign of growing hubris.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

i am typing this while taking the plan b gold-plated chopper for a spin!!

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

hang on a minute there stevie - time-warner? does that mean you're not mojoing it anymore?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Time-Warner? Eh?

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

If Plan B have all sold out and have stolen Sonic Youth's cooler of booze and all, how come they're always drinking *my* pink wine?

Masonic Boom (kate), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

Are you guys not getting Plan B mag and Plan B, Jennifer Aniston and BRad Pitt's production company confused?

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

uh-oh, ET's secretary is getting uppity about all the 'comings and goings'.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

Marcello - I AM GUN FOR HIRE and have no intention of ceasing my Mojo activities

Kate - because we are INSATIABLE and will drink everybody's everything

Stew - Brennifer are Plan B Mag's secret backers!!!

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm the American agent who came over to negotiate the deal last month. We celebrate by lighting peasants on fire and smoking two foot long cigars.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, maybe they'd back Beard! We're fucking skint. I haven't even got money to post your copy down until tomorrow Stevie!

Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

all good things come to those who wait, stew - and thanks again xxx

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

yes but stevie even GUNS FOR HIRE are not supposed to work for EMAP and IPC simultaneously on pain of death unless they use pseudonyms?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

well, stevie draws *a lot* of water, and ipc and emap had to bury the hatchet to keep him on board.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

marcello! i don't write for ipc, not even under pseudonym! timewarner hasn't *really bought plan b (has it? ET?? Chris??? frances???? help!)

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Maybe someone called Tim Warner bought it in a newsagents once and that's where the confusion's come from?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

plan b looks really nice and i wan to buy it but i dont like any of the indie bands lsited on the front, and all the dance people are those sort of dnace...not dance people. theres about 3 mags i thik in this same situation. ctcl and andother one. why cant we havea dance plan b? oh, is that fact magazine? cos that doesnt look so nice, and its harder to get.

thats not really salient is it

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

hah, go tell it to head office. boosting tiefschwarz isn't high on time-warner's to-do list, bucko. live real.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

dance not dance?

I do sort of know what you mean. Acts/DJ's with a current buzz profile and indie/crossover appeal? Optimo DJ's, Vitalic (not a diss btw).

There should be room for a publication inbetween Plan B and DJ Mag put right now who's interested? Dance music (in the mainstream) in England is I think seen as tired, 'over' or at the least incredibly conservative and uncreative recently. Where's the hunger, or the need for De-bug UK outside of London?

Part of me is pissed that Plan B didn't put Ellen Allien on the cover before instead of f*cking Arcade Fire, when they did take a big chance with Afrirampo the next month. But that might just have been a logistical thing (It was just an e-mail interview, no original press photos) that made it unsuitable this time.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)


i totally go along with ambroses point actually. i want to love it. but the bands covered aint in my playlist - and are very likely not going to be, so i dont feel any compelling urge to purchase the thing of beauty (which it often is). but i keep checking it - with the money ready. and i am sure one day our paths will cross and i will realise the errors of my ways.

but yeah . a more groove orientated magazine would be great - as mentioned on the Kittin mix thread, there really isn't any dance mag that has come along and picked up the batton that Muzik dropped. which is a real shame.


mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

yeah i guess i just want de:bug translated. and in that nice matte finish

"dance not dance" wasnt a diss, btw, and you hit the nail on the head. i was thinking, mia, dfa, kinda indiecentric stuff

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

i think it needs to be less rockcentric. i don't even know who arcade fire are. but mia was in it a while back!

N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

they need to put rachel stevens on the cover for #8.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

the writing is generally terrific, even on bands I don't like - eg the Oneida feature in the current issue is a brilliant piece of writing, so even though I think Oneida are dreadful this is why I still love Plan B.

the current issue is indier than usual but even then there's stuff on Kevin Blechdom, Teedra Moses (MY piece!), Princess Superstar, T Raumschmiere, Optimo. And really, Arcade Fire and Sonic Youth have been the only conventionally indie bands on the cover out of 7 issues.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

(I just had had some of my photos in it albeit only the website but it pleased me :-)

mei (mei), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Enjoyed very much the kevin blechdom interview (and elsewhere in the mag the review of her live performance at the launch party for her new LP!!!) Good job, Miss AMP.

No doubt when I finally get around to buying kevy b's record there will be a fawning post (or even thread!) about it from me as per.

Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

marcello! i don't write for ipc, not even under pseudonym! timewarner hasn't *really bought plan b (has it? ET?? Chris??? frances???? help!)

what the hell are you lot on about?

Chris Houghton (chrish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

it's simple. ET has sold up in a tyler brule-esque fashion, and all of the writers are getting well.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

right. do you think they'll buy my share of the company too?

Chris Houghton (chrish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

i guess not!

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

oh well. worth a try.

nb you're either just batshit insane or confusing us with the rapper plan b, signed to 679/warners. or the american contraceptive pill, the brixton bar, the light & fittings shop in brighton, etc, but i don't think any of them have got time warner connections.

Chris Houghton (chrish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

it's all love.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah no i wz just yanking chains.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

http://www.stjames.txk.org/finearts/art/art_images/flag.jpg

zappi (joni), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
i just picked up the one with black dice on the cover in rough trade and hafta say i am disappointed. (disclaimer: yes, i did see the little sidebar about it in the guardian and thought "hmm, sounds interesting.") the b.d. interview was horrible--the person who wrote it couldn't say a thing without name dropping stockhausen or can (there is an awful part where she tries to guess which alice coltrane album is playing on one of the b.d. dudes stereo = cringeworthy). what she elicited from the band was interesting, but her writing ruined it for me. then i flipped to some section about fashion with a blurb next to a picture of MIA. i started reading it and thought it was pretty funny--the writer (i originally assumed was actually mia, the section seemed like it was going to be comprised of interviews /artist narratives) is talking about her crush on diplo and sweating...then you realize it's someone who is not mia talking and is freaking out about seeing her which basically ruins the whole thing.

i bought a copy of the wire too. at least something worthwhile came out of the trip.

marcg (marcg), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Plan B is mad gay.

Dipsetcapo, Friday, 7 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

i bought a copy of the wire too. at least something worthwhile came out of the trip.

what, did you pick up a cool dvd too or something?


HAHAHAHA

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

i bought a copy of the wire too. at least something worthwhile came out of the trip.

the Wire and Plan B??

http://corporatedump.com/photo/data/503/1laughing_dog2.jpg


it's enough to make a dog laugh.

Pvt Dave Goes To Far (scarlet), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

it has been a periodical rich day for me (guardian and the economist for breakfast). damned if i just bought a now old wire...richard youngs one not the new boards of canada one. oh well. i mean, plan b seems like it should be cool from the looks of it, right? where can i read about black dice without getting upset?

marcg (marcg), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
Guess whos bizzack
Still smell the blow on my clothes
Like crispy cream i was cooking them o's
Like horseshoes i was tossin them o's
Time to re-up gotta recycle the flow

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Monday, 3 April 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Druggie.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 April 2006 20:53 (twenty years ago)

the afx piece in the new issue is hot (the chosen lords review though, is not) and the spank rock piece is cool and funny too (even if they talk about nothing and more nothing really). most of the featured artists i hate though, but then im not an indie boy so of course its not up my street.

okokok, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)

i'm so emotional

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)

It's not a bad read so far, although the rant on the inside back page about 'fake metal' is one of the more awful and pointless wastes of space I've seen in a while

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:44 (twenty years ago)

Plan B magazine has existed in Norway for several years.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:47 (twenty years ago)

what does 'plan' mean, in norse?

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:48 (twenty years ago)

i quite like it. it looks great. so is the writing. i just dont really like what they write too much.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:54 (twenty years ago)

you like the writing but don't like what we/they write?

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:17 (twenty years ago)

well, i thought the writing style/'form' etc is really good but whats being written doesnt really do it for me. like, the YYYs article was a bit too 'nicey nicey' IMHO. a bit too 'hey look im a friend of the band!' and therefore not all that interesting/revealing in my book. like nothing that might damage that relationship was being said. maybe its just cos i dont care about the other bands that im not that into it. or perhaps im a cynical bastard that wants the writers to draw blood, i dont know, i just found a lot of it washing over me. sorry. its a nice mag though and better than the NME! and not as wishy washy/dreamy/emo as LLSS.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:40 (twenty years ago)

I hear they're going muh-muh-mmmmm-MONTHLY! Eep!

Tweed on Tweed (kate), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:51 (twenty years ago)

are they gonna peh-peh-peh-PAY?

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:55 (twenty years ago)

Yes! (Apparently!)

Treacle in a Flaming Wheelbarrow (kate), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:58 (twenty years ago)

...even if it means their editor busking for spare change DJing at my birthday party and taking cash for requests!

::ducks::

Treacle in a Flaming Wheelbarrow (kate), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:58 (twenty years ago)

i don't adam and believe it!

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:59 (twenty years ago)

what does 'plan' mean, in norse?

Exactly the same as in English.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:38 (twenty years ago)

man you scandies need to get your own language already.

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:39 (twenty years ago)

and not as wishy washy/dreamy/emo as LLSS.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/CharlieBrown.jpg

good old, wishy-washy LLSS...

i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Hahahah. But such a sweet smile.

Yay Plan B going monthly indeed! Yay writing for them! As I do in a quiet way.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:14 (twenty years ago)

But such a sweet smile.

you know how it is... you keep wanting to be Linus, but you end up being Charlie Brown instead. but its not that bad. i just wish i had a normal dog, like everybody else.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:20 (twenty years ago)

At least Charlie Brown doesn't quote the Bible at people and you know he's a guy who'd appreciate "Red-haired Girl" by Eric's Trip.

Monthly = now twice as often I can see this thread and think "Already? I haven't finished reading the last one." Though I always mean to. Maybe I'm waiting for a month of unemployment and no internet access to go back to them all. But that's not the magazine's fault (I'm terrible at finishing books too) and it's a nice change from magazines you can read in two minutes without leaving the shop.

Rebecca (reb), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.newstatesman.com/200611200058

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_B_(magazine)#Credits

aw bless

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/music/archives/2007/07/column_hugs_and.php

Raw Patrick, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

"... the preening prats over at Pitchfork, where an entire generation of Simon Reynolds fans have been allowed to grow unchecked, reveling in their own pitiful self-importance."

if it were up to the ILX electorate to decide between TRUBOY and ol' Grimey S, I have a feeling TRUBOY would be the one getting voted off the island.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

seriously though, wtf? you don't get much more self-important, subjective wank than you get in plan b.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

my anchorman piece was godhead, but since then, phew, whadawaydago.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

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Dom Passantino, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Can Everett True please just fuck a 13-year-old and get it out of his system already?

Dom Passantino, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Also: Status Ain't Hood says goodbye to Punk Planet.

Breihan + True =

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Best_of_Both_Worlds.jpg

Dom Passantino, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

He doesn't help his stance by saying that Punk Planet was never really about punk bands! That's total arse

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/sevenxviii/PlanBforChristmas.jpg

haitch, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

Kudos.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)

i love their album reviews

titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

via email changes at plan b magazine

Hi everyone.

Everett True here.

Some changes are happening at Plan B Magazine, and I want to let you
know about them.

First, I’m emigrating to Australia early June with my wife Charlotte
Thackray and son Isaac, and this means I’m no longer able to oversee the
title on a day-to-day basis. So I’m stepping down as publisher – to
concentrate on finalising my travel plans, getting in copious amount of
sunscreen and dealing with those thousand and one things that always need
to be dealt with before undertakings of this magnitude. Into my shoes
steps Plan B Editor Frances Morgan, who will be ably assisted by our
continuing Assistant Publisher Richard Stacey. Into her shoes steps Plan
B Albums Editor Louis Pattison – and into his shoes (for three months
only) steps The Stevie Chick, Stevie Chick. In the meantime, I’ll be
taking on some form of roving ambassadorial role, and will continue to
contribute on both the editorial and publishing sides.

The new line-up looks like this.

Publisher: Frances Morgan
Assistant Publisher: Richard Stacey
Advertising Manager: Nick Taylor

Editor: Louis Pattison
Albums Editor/Live Preview: Stevie Chick
The Void/Lives Editor: kicking_k

Designer: Andrew Clare
Photography Editors: Sarah Bowles, Cat Stevens

Publisher-at-large: Everett True

And may I take this opportunity to thank everyone – readers,
contributors, PRs, advertisers, festival organisers, record companies – who’ve
supported Plan B Magazine over the years and helped make it into such an
unlikely success. Thank you. We totally appreciate your support. In
future months, look for more far-reaching cover stories featuring the
likes of May's No Age and April’s Italians Do It Better features, and
established artists such as The Breeders (March) and Billy Childish
(January), plus plenty of top quality cover-mounted CDs from festivals like End
Of The Road and SWN; also a new line of CD giveaways available only to
our loyal subscribers. So if you’ve been thinking of taking out a
subscription for a while and haven’t quite got round to it, now would be a
great time.

With every ending comes a new beginning – and everyone here is very
excited to be moving into the next phase of Plan B, four years in and
counting.

djmartian, Thursday, 1 May 2008 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

This is almost definitely my favorite music magazine around right now. The Italians/Simonetti cover story in the most recent one is great.

Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 1 May 2008 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

An e-mail's just been sent around to freelancers announcing that the issue out on June 1, No. 46, will be the final one of Plan B.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 May 2009 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

wow

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

NO! That sucks! I really love that magazine. I've been turned onto some amazing stuff from their CDs as well. What a drag :(

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Thursday, 21 May 2009 14:56 (seventeen years ago)

aw man. Halfway through my subscription too. Boooooo-urns.

Like, (Expletive) my (expletive). (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 21 May 2009 14:58 (seventeen years ago)

It just hit me that this is the end of a cycle of sorts that actually began here, when Everett True posted on this board in the early part of the decade and mentioned in one thread he was starting up a new magazine. I dropped him a line and that's how I ended up as a regular columnist for Careless Talk Costs Lives and eventually a contributor for both Loose Lips Sink Ships and Plan B. It's been fun being part of it all.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

Aw, no! That's a shame. Been reading since the start of CTCL, always looking forward to each new issue, always impressed to find that whatever twists and turns my musical tastes took there was someone at Plan B already a few steps ahead of me digging that stuff out.

A world with no Frances Morgan reviews of obscure krauty synth-drone, no kicking_k vs Louis Pattison singles club banter, and no glossy pictures of books and fanzines I'll never manage to track down is not one I want to have to get used to this summer.

(And just when I was excited to see the first Andrew Clare illustration for ages, too. And I'm only, oh, 3 months into my current subscription myself. Bah)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)

This sucks. Haven't bought it for a while, but I always enjoyed reading it.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

i haven't read it for years but it was good to know it was around.

still, that remark along with neil's probably indicates why plan b's gone to the wall...

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:31 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah I often thought about buying it when in e.g. Borders, flicked through it, then decided there probably wasn't enough I would actually read to make it worthwhile.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:41 (seventeen years ago)

I've got every issue of CTCL, Plan B, Loose Lips Sinks Ships.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

shame. its a good mag. some good writing too. kinda different to what else is out there. i didnt really buy it too often though, it was too indie rock focused for me. did like their reviews though.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

More thoughts via the blog.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)

I used to like that Comes With a Smile magazine, too (or at least the CDs that came with it, full of exclusive tracks - where am I going to get my fix of cover-mounted indie rock?).

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Thursday, 21 May 2009 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

This sucks, especially as my gf is only halfway through her subscription. The writing was a mixed bag, but it definitely got me to check out some stuff I would have overlooked otherwise. Plus we won the Arthur Russell DVD in some subscriber comp, which was nice. RIP.

ears are wounds, Thursday, 21 May 2009 16:46 (seventeen years ago)

i haven't read it for years but it was good to know it was around.

still, that remark along with neil's probably indicates why plan b's gone to the wall...

― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:31 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't think this would constitute an official line or whatever but one of the staffers basically said that it was because they couldn't generate enough ad revenue because not enough people were buying ads because the people that would buy ads (indie labels) didn't have enough money because no-one is buying music. So yeah, good times

S-Ban Hour Best Hit Parade (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:07 (seventeen years ago)

oh and (xp) I understand that subscribers get back whatever they're owed

S-Ban Hour Best Hit Parade (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

wish the plan b staff could start a more metal orientated mag to take on Kerrang.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

but still cover other music

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:19 (seventeen years ago)

music that isnt mainstream enough to get covered by kerrang but doesnt limit itself to extreme metal like Terrorizer and Zero Tolerance.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

Kinda like Kerrang in about 1993/94 when it was really open minded with what it covered(ie some more indie/alternative acts) but still covered extreme metal bands too

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

yeah that'll fly off the newstands

mastotmdom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

cuz i thought plan b was really good at covering this stuff.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

yeah that'll fly off the newstands

― mastotmdom (Whiney G. Weingarten),

but lots of ilxors would read it in the shop!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

What, coz Terroriser didn't already poach half the Plan B staff?

This is... this is just... weird. I didn't realise how much of my life had been so interthreaded with that magazine and its staff until faced with the prospect of its actually being gone.

Germanic Street Preachers (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 21 May 2009 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

Very surprised and sad to hear of Plan B's passing. It will be missed here, nothing else covers quite that niche.

krakow, Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:03 (seventeen years ago)

I feel really bad about this. Excluding HHC, who's print version also died recently, this magazine has pretty much been the main force in turning me onto great music and great music writing. Ok it was very hit and miss but I was always excited to read it and although I've been pretty skint in the past year and a half, bought many a record just because of a recommendation.

I wanna be your toy boy (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

Really sad news. It will be greatly missed. The staff deserve massive respect for their heroic hard work and righteousness. They might have been able to keep it going, but this would have meant cutting staff, pages, print quality etc. Nobody wants to see something as special as Plan B fall into decline like Melody Maker, so they made the right decision, sad as it is.
Plan B and CTLC been a big part of my life over the past few years, introducing me not only to all kinds of amazing music and art, but also to some wonderful people. I'm also really proud to have contributed, albeit in a minor way, to recent issues.
I'm sure this won't be the last we hear of its staff, however, and I keenly anticipate future writings and projects from them.

Stew, Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

its fair to say that when i first heard this news a few weeks back it broke my heart. now its out in the open, still pretty heartbroken. here's hoping the energies behind it find new outlets somewhere and somehow, that this ending can become a series of new beginnings too. i've freelanced for Plan B since day 1, and worked in the office for a few months last summer, and every single person working on that magazine is a glorious and talented MF...

they walked on a bridge!? shit this changes everything (stevie), Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

What a bummer to read about this! I bought nearly all of the issues, it was the last regular music monthly I actually read at all. Always worth reading, even when the music they covered wasn't to my taste.

kr0p3r0m:a9ff (Pashmina), Thursday, 21 May 2009 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

Considering that a pretty big chunk of my social life just would not exist without people who met on that magazine, I should really have bought it more often. As it was I never really had much use for it but I'm sad it's gone.

Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Friday, 22 May 2009 10:44 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

Plan B, freely downloadable. Every issue.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:14 (sixteen years ago)

When I was going through my 2006 receipts I realized I bought every issue at newsstand price that year.

Megadeth Panel (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:42 (sixteen years ago)

ah, awesome. not of enormous use to me since I'

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:46 (sixteen years ago)

lost control of my apostrophes

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:47 (sixteen years ago)

shit, what happened there? what I meant to say was:

ah, awesome. not of enormous use to me since I'm only missing four or five issues (I'm determined to find some way to own them eventually), but there's an awful lot of writing throughout these that deserves to be available.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:48 (sixteen years ago)

very insensitive of you to make a joke of my apparent mid-post death, Ned.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:49 (sixteen years ago)

Death be not proud. Because I'm not.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:50 (sixteen years ago)

I got Vuze to download the torrent and it's not working for me at all. (I'm on a Mac.) Does anyone have any advice they could offer?

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 03:20 (sixteen years ago)

I use a program called utorrent that works really well. I would try that one instead.

Antoine Doinel, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

Just tried d/l'ing that and it doesn't do anything either.

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:31 (sixteen years ago)

I'm on a Mac and Utorrent is for PCs.

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:36 (sixteen years ago)

Good Mac client:

http://www.transmissionbt.com/

Mark, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:37 (sixteen years ago)

I can't use that version of Transmission with Mac OS X.

I guess I won't be getting this at all. Bummer.

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:45 (sixteen years ago)

Dude, Matos, if you don't get the torrent running, I'd be into sending this to you piecemeal in some way.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:55 (sixteen years ago)

Merdeyeux, I assume most clients will do this, but BitComet lets you choose which issues you want to download (not that I'm actually getting anywhere with it atm, seemingly no seeds about).

useless chamber, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:42 (sixteen years ago)

I got Vuze to download the torrent and it's not working for me at all. (I'm on a Mac.) Does anyone have any advice they could offer?

I'm on a Mac and I use Vuze. I haven't tried this yet, will do so when I get home, but what exact problem are you having?

anagram, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 08:32 (sixteen years ago)

wait plan b folded?

pro bono publico (history mayne), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:32 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, right down the middle where the staples were.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:42 (sixteen years ago)

How big's the download?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:47 (sixteen years ago)

673MB

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:50 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, right down the middle where the staples were.

it were perfect bound, actually

preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:54 (sixteen years ago)

my joke is broke :(

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:01 (sixteen years ago)

he, some of my early writing in these. i have most of them in a cupboard somewhere.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:04 (sixteen years ago)

Matos I'm using Vuze and not having any problem. I downloaded Vuze, installed it, and downloaded the torrent to my desktop, double-clicked it and voila it started doing it's thing immediately.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:38 (sixteen years ago)

Transmission on a Mac here, just downloaded the whole thing in a matter of minutes, currently seeding to all and sundry.

Matos, what version of Mac OS X are you using? Though I'm not sure that would make a difference - I think blocked ports is the more likely culprit.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:58 (sixteen years ago)

Ned's first reply here reminds me, is Loose Lips Sink Ships decisively dead? No new edition for four years now, as far as I can tell...

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:02 (sixteen years ago)

Stevie Chick to thread!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

Thank you Plan B! Looking forward to this enormously but also sadly as it will hammer home just how out of touch I've felt since Plan B folded (plus I'm expecting to read a whole lot about bands I didn't pick up on at the time and only later went "why did nobody tell me?" etc)

canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:06 (sixteen years ago)

ahem. expect some action this year. not sure what form it'll take yet, but rest assured steve and i intend to wreak a little havoc before 2010 is out...

preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

eeexcellent.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:21 (sixteen years ago)

and very much thanks for your interest, merdeyeux!

preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

Now about this user name.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:40 (sixteen years ago)

New pie recipe for discerning cannibals.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

Oh dear.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

did plan b cover rap beyond UK stuff with any regularity at all?

chronicles of ridic (zvookster), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

i did pieces on quasimoto and stones throw for them, and i'm sure i remember other pieces by other writers too...

preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

thx

chronicles of ridic (zvookster), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:14 (sixteen years ago)


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