The debut issue of Plan B is out next week.
Its featured artists include Chicks On Speed, Kaito, Von Bondies, Lightning Bolt, Spektrum, !!!, The Pastels, New Black, Gravy Train!!!, The Cribs, Sunn O))), OOIOO, The Mountain Goats, Graham Coxon, Cocorosie, The Saints...and many more.
There's an article from Neil Kulkarni about cleaning out his chimney.There's an article from Ian Svenonius raving about his favourite board game.There's a rant from Peter Bagge that'll get us in trouble with the FBI.
There's a brand new media section, wittily entitled Media - where you can read about our favourite Outsider Art, including Olympia WA postcard creator Stella Marrs, Japanese horrorcore, children's books illustrators, Charles Schulz (all right, it's not *entirely* Outsider Art!), pirate radio and blogs.
There's a front section entitled The Void - starring Thurston Moore, Jeffrey Lewis, Erase Errata and Rammellzee.
There is superlative photography, courtesy of Sarah Bowles and her ace team.There are superlative illustrations, courtesy of Andrew Clare and his ace team.
And it all costs £2.95 from your local store. Nice.
Or order direct, post-free, from www.planbmag.com/order
Cheers, Everett True (Editor-In-Chief)
― Mary Lasso, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm gonna get it.
― mei (mei), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Crickets Dance On Tequila Booty (Barima), Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jason J, Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)
And Gravy Train!!!! And Ramellzee. I think I shall enjoy this
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 10 June 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)
The whole thing looks fucking stunning.
― Chris Houghton (chrish), Thursday, 10 June 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)
Thee was a good SunO))) interview in terrorizer a few years ago.
― mei (mei), Thursday, 10 June 2004 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Stewart G Fletcher, Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― mei (mei), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 5 August 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Plan B has a new issue coming out in mid-September. It will quite possibly feature - among many other fine names - Kelis, The 5678s, Detroit Cobras, Shystie, Comets On Fire, Jack Rose, Marine Girls, Nick Cave, M Ward, Bill Callahan, Ian Svenonius, Dizzee Rascal, The Residents, The Bug, the Trachtenburgs, a spread on fashion, graffiti hip-hop, Marc Baines on comics, caustic US comedian David Cross, GbV, Numbers, Red Krayola, The Faint, Le Tigre, lego bricks, Piney Gir, Susanna And The Magical Orchestra, Joanne Newsom, Devandra Banhart, Har Mar Superstar, Neil Kulkarni on himself, David McNamee on evidence, Miss AMP on computer games, Fiery Furnaces, Jon Spencer, The Thermals, Gravenhurst, Trencher, VHF, LCD Soundsystem, David Thomas, Don Letts, Planet Mu, Est'elle. Doubtless, that list will change and mutate as time passes, but....brrrr. It's exciting.
― Chris Houghton (chrish), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lazza, Friday, 6 August 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael M, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― 3underscore (___), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)
It looks like I designed it, too.
― Pikmin, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)
Mojo (Not as fuddy duddy these days as you'd imagine)The Wire (Never read most of it, but makes you feel swanky walking around with it)Kings (On the basis of issue two this has great potential, if only beacause they gave the great Devin The Dude a four page interview)DJ (For Neil Kulkarni's crackpot reviews page)
― Lil Jon's Mom, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)
Not saying it is beautifully designed, but it is better than many. Actually, on raising the question you remind me of one article I read in it which I couldn't follow because the text was all positioned counter-intuitively.
So - Plan B. it is on nice paper.
― 3underscore (___), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)
A bit of a generalisation surely? Granted, some of it's like that, but at least they're encouraging different approaches to music writing. And that produces some killer stuff that wouldn't be printed elsewhere. There's a Neil Kulkarni rant in there about pop and rock that cuts through all the interminable rockism/popism debates in one fell swoop. He argues that the ephemerality of pop is exactly what makes it immortal, while rock's striving for immortality often renders it obsolete. But he also sticks up for extreme and avant garde music. The villains are those in the middle ground he says, using that wonderful adjective "cunting" twice in one paragraph (in reference to Robbie Williams and U2) The guy is a champ.Plenty of other great stuff in there - Shane Moritz on Crooked Rain, JD Beauvallet on French rock, Alistair Fitchett on Magnetic Fields, not to mention all the gorgeous photos and illustrations. Gotta shamelessly big up my friend Mark's Park Attack double exposure. One of these happy accidents, it looks cool.
I also have to question whoever said, "it doesn't have anything I didn't know about before". Well, lucky you. Like many mags, they cover established acts (albeit far more obscure and interesting ones that yer average mag), but they feature more new bands than anything else out there, Loose Lips excepted.
― stew, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Grain of Sand in Lambeth That Satan Cannot Find (kate), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Grain of Sand in Lambeth That Satan Cannot Find (kate), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Devin The Dude is a genius - all magazines should be forced to cover him. By law.
― Pikmin, Wednesday, 24 November 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 24 November 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)
― Masonic Boom (kate), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)
Kate - because we are INSATIABLE and will drink everybody's everything
Stew - Brennifer are Plan B Mag's secret backers!!!
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)
― Stew (stew s), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)
thats not really salient is it
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)
I do sort of know what you mean. Acts/DJ's with a current buzz profile and indie/crossover appeal? Optimo DJ's, Vitalic (not a diss btw).
There should be room for a publication inbetween Plan B and DJ Mag put right now who's interested? Dance music (in the mainstream) in England is I think seen as tired, 'over' or at the least incredibly conservative and uncreative recently. Where's the hunger, or the need for De-bug UK outside of London?
Part of me is pissed that Plan B didn't put Ellen Allien on the cover before instead of f*cking Arcade Fire, when they did take a big chance with Afrirampo the next month. But that might just have been a logistical thing (It was just an e-mail interview, no original press photos) that made it unsuitable this time.
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
but yeah . a more groove orientated magazine would be great - as mentioned on the Kittin mix thread, there really isn't any dance mag that has come along and picked up the batton that Muzik dropped. which is a real shame.
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
"dance not dance" wasnt a diss, btw, and you hit the nail on the head. i was thinking, mia, dfa, kinda indiecentric stuff
― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)
the current issue is indier than usual but even then there's stuff on Kevin Blechdom, Teedra Moses (MY piece!), Princess Superstar, T Raumschmiere, Optimo. And really, Arcade Fire and Sonic Youth have been the only conventionally indie bands on the cover out of 7 issues.
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)
― mei (mei), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
No doubt when I finally get around to buying kevy b's record there will be a fawning post (or even thread!) about it from me as per.
― Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)
what the hell are you lot on about?
― Chris Houghton (chrish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)
― Chris Houghton (chrish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)
nb you're either just batshit insane or confusing us with the rapper plan b, signed to 679/warners. or the american contraceptive pill, the brixton bar, the light & fittings shop in brighton, etc, but i don't think any of them have got time warner connections.
― Chris Houghton (chrish), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)
― zappi (joni), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)
i bought a copy of the wire too. at least something worthwhile came out of the trip.
― marcg (marcg), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― Dipsetcapo, Friday, 7 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
what, did you pick up a cool dvd too or something?
HAHAHAHA
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
the Wire and Plan B??
http://corporatedump.com/photo/data/503/1laughing_dog2.jpg
it's enough to make a dog laugh.
― Pvt Dave Goes To Far (scarlet), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)
― marcg (marcg), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Monday, 3 April 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 April 2006 20:53 (twenty years ago)
― okokok, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 14:33 (twenty years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:44 (twenty years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:47 (twenty years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:48 (twenty years ago)
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 08:54 (twenty years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:17 (twenty years ago)
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:40 (twenty years ago)
― Tweed on Tweed (kate), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:51 (twenty years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:55 (twenty years ago)
― Treacle in a Flaming Wheelbarrow (kate), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:58 (twenty years ago)
::ducks::
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 10:59 (twenty years ago)
Exactly the same as in English.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:38 (twenty years ago)
― Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:39 (twenty years ago)
good old, wishy-washy LLSS...
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:48 (twenty years ago)
Yay Plan B going monthly indeed! Yay writing for them! As I do in a quiet way.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:14 (twenty years ago)
you know how it is... you keep wanting to be Linus, but you end up being Charlie Brown instead. but its not that bad. i just wish i had a normal dog, like everybody else.
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:20 (twenty years ago)
Monthly = now twice as often I can see this thread and think "Already? I haven't finished reading the last one." Though I always mean to. Maybe I'm waiting for a month of unemployment and no internet access to go back to them all. But that's not the magazine's fault (I'm terrible at finishing books too) and it's a nice change from magazines you can read in two minutes without leaving the shop.
― Rebecca (reb), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)
http://www.newstatesman.com/200611200058
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_B_(magazine)#Credits
aw bless
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/music/archives/2007/07/column_hugs_and.php
― Raw Patrick, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)
"... the preening prats over at Pitchfork, where an entire generation of Simon Reynolds fans have been allowed to grow unchecked, reveling in their own pitiful self-importance."
if it were up to the ILX electorate to decide between TRUBOY and ol' Grimey S, I have a feeling TRUBOY would be the one getting voted off the island.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)
seriously though, wtf? you don't get much more self-important, subjective wank than you get in plan b.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)
my anchorman piece was godhead, but since then, phew, whadawaydago.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)
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― Dom Passantino, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)
Can Everett True please just fuck a 13-year-old and get it out of his system already?
Also: Status Ain't Hood says goodbye to Punk Planet.
Breihan + True =
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Best_of_Both_Worlds.jpg
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 9 July 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)
He doesn't help his stance by saying that Punk Planet was never really about punk bands! That's total arse
― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/sevenxviii/PlanBforChristmas.jpg
― haitch, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)
Kudos.
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)
i love their album reviews
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)
via email changes at plan b magazine
Hi everyone.
Everett True here.
Some changes are happening at Plan B Magazine, and I want to let you know about them.
First, I’m emigrating to Australia early June with my wife Charlotte Thackray and son Isaac, and this means I’m no longer able to oversee the title on a day-to-day basis. So I’m stepping down as publisher – to concentrate on finalising my travel plans, getting in copious amount of sunscreen and dealing with those thousand and one things that always need to be dealt with before undertakings of this magnitude. Into my shoes steps Plan B Editor Frances Morgan, who will be ably assisted by our continuing Assistant Publisher Richard Stacey. Into her shoes steps Plan B Albums Editor Louis Pattison – and into his shoes (for three months only) steps The Stevie Chick, Stevie Chick. In the meantime, I’ll be taking on some form of roving ambassadorial role, and will continue to contribute on both the editorial and publishing sides.
The new line-up looks like this.
Publisher: Frances Morgan Assistant Publisher: Richard Stacey Advertising Manager: Nick Taylor
Editor: Louis Pattison Albums Editor/Live Preview: Stevie Chick The Void/Lives Editor: kicking_k
Designer: Andrew Clare Photography Editors: Sarah Bowles, Cat Stevens
Publisher-at-large: Everett True
And may I take this opportunity to thank everyone – readers, contributors, PRs, advertisers, festival organisers, record companies – who’ve supported Plan B Magazine over the years and helped make it into such an unlikely success. Thank you. We totally appreciate your support. In future months, look for more far-reaching cover stories featuring the likes of May's No Age and April’s Italians Do It Better features, and established artists such as The Breeders (March) and Billy Childish (January), plus plenty of top quality cover-mounted CDs from festivals like End Of The Road and SWN; also a new line of CD giveaways available only to our loyal subscribers. So if you’ve been thinking of taking out a subscription for a while and haven’t quite got round to it, now would be a great time.
With every ending comes a new beginning – and everyone here is very excited to be moving into the next phase of Plan B, four years in and counting.
― djmartian, Thursday, 1 May 2008 16:45 (eighteen years ago)
This is almost definitely my favorite music magazine around right now. The Italians/Simonetti cover story in the most recent one is great.
― Savannah Smiles, Thursday, 1 May 2008 17:08 (eighteen years ago)
An e-mail's just been sent around to freelancers announcing that the issue out on June 1, No. 46, will be the final one of Plan B.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 May 2009 14:54 (seventeen years ago)
wow
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 14:54 (seventeen years ago)
NO! That sucks! I really love that magazine. I've been turned onto some amazing stuff from their CDs as well. What a drag :(
― Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Thursday, 21 May 2009 14:56 (seventeen years ago)
aw man. Halfway through my subscription too. Boooooo-urns.
― Like, (Expletive) my (expletive). (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 21 May 2009 14:58 (seventeen years ago)
It just hit me that this is the end of a cycle of sorts that actually began here, when Everett True posted on this board in the early part of the decade and mentioned in one thread he was starting up a new magazine. I dropped him a line and that's how I ended up as a regular columnist for Careless Talk Costs Lives and eventually a contributor for both Loose Lips Sink Ships and Plan B. It's been fun being part of it all.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:00 (seventeen years ago)
Aw, no! That's a shame. Been reading since the start of CTCL, always looking forward to each new issue, always impressed to find that whatever twists and turns my musical tastes took there was someone at Plan B already a few steps ahead of me digging that stuff out.
A world with no Frances Morgan reviews of obscure krauty synth-drone, no kicking_k vs Louis Pattison singles club banter, and no glossy pictures of books and fanzines I'll never manage to track down is not one I want to have to get used to this summer.
(And just when I was excited to see the first Andrew Clare illustration for ages, too. And I'm only, oh, 3 months into my current subscription myself. Bah)
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:14 (seventeen years ago)
This sucks. Haven't bought it for a while, but I always enjoyed reading it.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:16 (seventeen years ago)
i haven't read it for years but it was good to know it was around.
still, that remark along with neil's probably indicates why plan b's gone to the wall...
― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:31 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah I often thought about buying it when in e.g. Borders, flicked through it, then decided there probably wasn't enough I would actually read to make it worthwhile.
― zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:41 (seventeen years ago)
I've got every issue of CTCL, Plan B, Loose Lips Sinks Ships.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:53 (seventeen years ago)
shame. its a good mag. some good writing too. kinda different to what else is out there. i didnt really buy it too often though, it was too indie rock focused for me. did like their reviews though.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
More thoughts via the blog.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 May 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
I used to like that Comes With a Smile magazine, too (or at least the CDs that came with it, full of exclusive tracks - where am I going to get my fix of cover-mounted indie rock?).
― Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Thursday, 21 May 2009 16:02 (seventeen years ago)
This sucks, especially as my gf is only halfway through her subscription. The writing was a mixed bag, but it definitely got me to check out some stuff I would have overlooked otherwise. Plus we won the Arthur Russell DVD in some subscriber comp, which was nice. RIP.
― ears are wounds, Thursday, 21 May 2009 16:46 (seventeen years ago)
― Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:31 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I don't think this would constitute an official line or whatever but one of the staffers basically said that it was because they couldn't generate enough ad revenue because not enough people were buying ads because the people that would buy ads (indie labels) didn't have enough money because no-one is buying music. So yeah, good times
― S-Ban Hour Best Hit Parade (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:07 (seventeen years ago)
oh and (xp) I understand that subscribers get back whatever they're owed
― S-Ban Hour Best Hit Parade (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:09 (seventeen years ago)
wish the plan b staff could start a more metal orientated mag to take on Kerrang.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:19 (seventeen years ago)
but still cover other music
music that isnt mainstream enough to get covered by kerrang but doesnt limit itself to extreme metal like Terrorizer and Zero Tolerance.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:21 (seventeen years ago)
Kinda like Kerrang in about 1993/94 when it was really open minded with what it covered(ie some more indie/alternative acts) but still covered extreme metal bands too
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)
yeah that'll fly off the newstands
― mastotmdom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:23 (seventeen years ago)
cuz i thought plan b was really good at covering this stuff.
yeah that'll fly off the newstands― mastotmdom (Whiney G. Weingarten),
― mastotmdom (Whiney G. Weingarten),
but lots of ilxors would read it in the shop!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 21 May 2009 19:41 (seventeen years ago)
What, coz Terroriser didn't already poach half the Plan B staff?
This is... this is just... weird. I didn't realise how much of my life had been so interthreaded with that magazine and its staff until faced with the prospect of its actually being gone.
― Germanic Street Preachers (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 21 May 2009 20:31 (seventeen years ago)
Very surprised and sad to hear of Plan B's passing. It will be missed here, nothing else covers quite that niche.
― krakow, Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:03 (seventeen years ago)
I feel really bad about this. Excluding HHC, who's print version also died recently, this magazine has pretty much been the main force in turning me onto great music and great music writing. Ok it was very hit and miss but I was always excited to read it and although I've been pretty skint in the past year and a half, bought many a record just because of a recommendation.
― I wanna be your toy boy (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:11 (seventeen years ago)
Really sad news. It will be greatly missed. The staff deserve massive respect for their heroic hard work and righteousness. They might have been able to keep it going, but this would have meant cutting staff, pages, print quality etc. Nobody wants to see something as special as Plan B fall into decline like Melody Maker, so they made the right decision, sad as it is.Plan B and CTLC been a big part of my life over the past few years, introducing me not only to all kinds of amazing music and art, but also to some wonderful people. I'm also really proud to have contributed, albeit in a minor way, to recent issues. I'm sure this won't be the last we hear of its staff, however, and I keenly anticipate future writings and projects from them.
― Stew, Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:24 (seventeen years ago)
its fair to say that when i first heard this news a few weeks back it broke my heart. now its out in the open, still pretty heartbroken. here's hoping the energies behind it find new outlets somewhere and somehow, that this ending can become a series of new beginnings too. i've freelanced for Plan B since day 1, and worked in the office for a few months last summer, and every single person working on that magazine is a glorious and talented MF...
― they walked on a bridge!? shit this changes everything (stevie), Thursday, 21 May 2009 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
What a bummer to read about this! I bought nearly all of the issues, it was the last regular music monthly I actually read at all. Always worth reading, even when the music they covered wasn't to my taste.
― kr0p3r0m:a9ff (Pashmina), Thursday, 21 May 2009 22:06 (seventeen years ago)
Considering that a pretty big chunk of my social life just would not exist without people who met on that magazine, I should really have bought it more often. As it was I never really had much use for it but I'm sad it's gone.
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Friday, 22 May 2009 10:44 (seventeen years ago)
Plan B, freely downloadable. Every issue.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 February 2010 23:14 (sixteen years ago)
When I was going through my 2006 receipts I realized I bought every issue at newsstand price that year.
― Megadeth Panel (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:42 (sixteen years ago)
ah, awesome. not of enormous use to me since I'
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:46 (sixteen years ago)
lost control of my apostrophes
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:47 (sixteen years ago)
shit, what happened there? what I meant to say was:
ah, awesome. not of enormous use to me since I'm only missing four or five issues (I'm determined to find some way to own them eventually), but there's an awful lot of writing throughout these that deserves to be available.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:48 (sixteen years ago)
very insensitive of you to make a joke of my apparent mid-post death, Ned.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:49 (sixteen years ago)
Death be not proud. Because I'm not.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 01:50 (sixteen years ago)
I got Vuze to download the torrent and it's not working for me at all. (I'm on a Mac.) Does anyone have any advice they could offer?
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 03:20 (sixteen years ago)
I use a program called utorrent that works really well. I would try that one instead.
― Antoine Doinel, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:07 (sixteen years ago)
Just tried d/l'ing that and it doesn't do anything either.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:31 (sixteen years ago)
I'm on a Mac and Utorrent is for PCs.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:36 (sixteen years ago)
Good Mac client:
http://www.transmissionbt.com/
― Mark, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:37 (sixteen years ago)
I can't use that version of Transmission with Mac OS X.
I guess I won't be getting this at all. Bummer.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:45 (sixteen years ago)
Dude, Matos, if you don't get the torrent running, I'd be into sending this to you piecemeal in some way.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 04:55 (sixteen years ago)
Merdeyeux, I assume most clients will do this, but BitComet lets you choose which issues you want to download (not that I'm actually getting anywhere with it atm, seemingly no seeds about).
― useless chamber, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:42 (sixteen years ago)
I'm on a Mac and I use Vuze. I haven't tried this yet, will do so when I get home, but what exact problem are you having?
― anagram, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 08:32 (sixteen years ago)
wait plan b folded?
― pro bono publico (history mayne), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:32 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, right down the middle where the staples were.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:42 (sixteen years ago)
How big's the download?
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:47 (sixteen years ago)
673MB
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:50 (sixteen years ago)
it were perfect bound, actually
― preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:54 (sixteen years ago)
my joke is broke :(
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:01 (sixteen years ago)
he, some of my early writing in these. i have most of them in a cupboard somewhere.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:04 (sixteen years ago)
Matos I'm using Vuze and not having any problem. I downloaded Vuze, installed it, and downloaded the torrent to my desktop, double-clicked it and voila it started doing it's thing immediately.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:38 (sixteen years ago)
Transmission on a Mac here, just downloaded the whole thing in a matter of minutes, currently seeding to all and sundry.
Matos, what version of Mac OS X are you using? Though I'm not sure that would make a difference - I think blocked ports is the more likely culprit.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:58 (sixteen years ago)
Ned's first reply here reminds me, is Loose Lips Sink Ships decisively dead? No new edition for four years now, as far as I can tell...
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:02 (sixteen years ago)
Stevie Chick to thread!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:03 (sixteen years ago)
Thank you Plan B! Looking forward to this enormously but also sadly as it will hammer home just how out of touch I've felt since Plan B folded (plus I'm expecting to read a whole lot about bands I didn't pick up on at the time and only later went "why did nobody tell me?" etc)
― canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:06 (sixteen years ago)
ahem. expect some action this year. not sure what form it'll take yet, but rest assured steve and i intend to wreak a little havoc before 2010 is out...
― preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:17 (sixteen years ago)
eeexcellent.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:21 (sixteen years ago)
and very much thanks for your interest, merdeyeux!
― preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:26 (sixteen years ago)
Now about this user name.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:40 (sixteen years ago)
New pie recipe for discerning cannibals.
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:37 (sixteen years ago)
Oh dear.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:59 (sixteen years ago)
did plan b cover rap beyond UK stuff with any regularity at all?
― chronicles of ridic (zvookster), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:02 (sixteen years ago)
i did pieces on quasimoto and stones throw for them, and i'm sure i remember other pieces by other writers too...
― preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)
thx
― chronicles of ridic (zvookster), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:14 (sixteen years ago)