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Create your own profile (which seems to be based on the Audioscrobbler system).. then listen to personal streaming radio based on your preferences.

You can say whether you like or hate a particular track it's playing and it'll record your preferences and send you music that other people who have similar tastes to yours like...

Wish we had a decent broadband service in NZ. You pay through the nose for international traffic.

damian_nz (damian_nz), Thursday, 27 May 2004 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i used this for a while but got ditracted by download sites - it is good though - i must check it out again. very diverse and often surprising selections.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 27 May 2004 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I've only been on for about 30 minutes now, but I'm definitely enjoying it. I'm curious to hear how the selection will be once I've added more songs to my profile.

JC-L (JC-L), Friday, 28 May 2004 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...
not convinced that there's much to it beyond the initial novelty, but initial novelty will do for now - http://www.last.fm/user/lexpretend/

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

You're not beholden to listening to your own profile radio. You can pick other users or customize by clicking 'find a station' and entering a list of artists.

Mike Dixn, Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

There's another thread somewhere. And an ILx group: ilx0r

emil.y, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

lex you can also listen to "neighbours" and "friendslist" radios. you've only been on a few days so it may not have had time to correlate yr neighbours (ppl with matching interests), but with that and general clicking around and preview listening i've found a few artists here and there with last.fm, not to mention ppl who you can then P2P with :-)

Alan, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

To listen to personal radio you have to donate. Unless they still do the free personal radio for the 1st month you sign up.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

So far it seems much better at dealing w/more obscure stuff, as compared w/pandora...not sure if that's just my experience as I haven't been using either for *that* long.

dlp9001, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i haven't got any neighbours yet but i will keep trying!

it's not really a great reflection of what i actually listen to, maybe when i hook comp up to proper speakers i'll actually listen to most of my music on it. also look at my weekly artsts for last week and guess what i had to review innit

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone critique my musical tastes:

http://www.last.fm/user/magogo

Tell me what I should be listening to.

MaGoGo, Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

How many tracks do you need to play now before it calculates neighbours? It used to be 200.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Judging from that list I'd say you might find Neu! and Cluster interesting.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

old thread is http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=18146; might be best to use it instead of this one 'cos it's a handy single resource for ppl's links.

i'm still pretty new to the whole thing but i think it fucking rocks.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

FUCK THIS PRETEND-HTML BOLLOCKS; that link's fucked.

the old thread is here

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Mine

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I do have another account actually that records all my soul,funk,jazz etc . It's linked on my main profile page.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 22 February 2007 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't get this radio thing to work :(

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 February 2007 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Did you download the LAST FM player? I'm pretty sure you need to be a subscriber to listen to personal radio. And obviously you don't have any neighbours yet to use that radio.
Just go to a random page and try listening to that persons radio (I don't recommend mine as I'm sure you would hate it). All you should need to do is click on where it says PLAY "insert name"'s Radio Station. See if that works.

I think you're on a mac though but I don't think that should make a difference.
I'm not sure if you can use TAG radio without subscribing. You can always just do a search for some act you like and select their radio

Try this Similar Artists To Ciara
Hopefully that will work.


Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 22 February 2007 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

haaa i just realised why it didn't work, i automatically cancelled the box which pops up and which is the box that launches it. (i am v distrustful of boxes-which-pop-up, they alarm me)

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 February 2007 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

it plays usher :D

lex pretend, Thursday, 22 February 2007 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, I'll put a link to mine on, too. missekawasaki. Don't listen to that much music on my computer, though.

emil.y, Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I quite like my personal radio player. It blows Pandora out of the water IMO. I'm quite the Last.fm junkie actually.
[link Chantilly Bass]http://www.last.fm/user/chantillybass[link]

Chantilly Bass, Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

can't find you!

lol @ trusting ilx instructions

tremendoid, Thursday, 22 February 2007 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I tried to use this, but for some reason, my connection won't smoothly stream songs from last.fm. However, I can play songs from Pandora, no problem, no skips.

Z S, Friday, 23 February 2007 01:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I have never tried this Pandora.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 23 February 2007 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

VERY late to the party, but if anyone's interested in adding me, I just joined the last.fm revolution! http://www.last.fm/user/charlieframe

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 23:14 (nine years ago) link

Hey DL, Mount_Analogue is me fwiw.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 13 January 2011 07:44 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

surely this must have been addressed in one of the last.fm threads, but currently listening to a ton of ella fitzgerald, and have to cop to worrying how it will skew my last.fm stats. that's insane, right? i'm part of the problem, right?

Dominique, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Um, yes.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Just listen to what you like!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:27 (nine years ago) link

I mean surely you're not worried there's a mob out there thinking "Oh great, not only does this bastard lie about him being a woman but he listens to ELLA all day!"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:28 (nine years ago) link

when i cared more about last.fm this same thing used to cause me angst when i'd listen to mixtapes i had tagged as "lil wayne & dj drama" or w/e

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:29 (nine years ago) link

no, more like, if I listen to 250 tracks by her in the next week, that's totally going to SKEW MY STATS! probably put her in my top 10-- is she really one of my top ten artists? probably not. god, I need some serious help

Dominique, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:30 (nine years ago) link

xpost

Dominique, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:30 (nine years ago) link

if she's not in ur top 10 how do u explain listening to her a ton

Dr Frogbs (am0n), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:40 (nine years ago) link

dig it; my top ten:

1. Denki Groove
2. P-Model
3. Ween
4. They Might Be Giants
5. Underworld
6. Scooter
7. Yellow Magic Orchestra
8. Happy Mondays
9. Ryuichi Sakamoto
10. The Bran Flakes

kinda surprised by this list, I guess TMBG and the Bran Flakes do put like 20-30 songs on their albums, just surprised Sakamoto ranked so high too

I'm guessing The Fall will be #1 all time at some point. It's unavoidable

frogbs, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:48 (nine years ago) link

if she's not in ur top 10 how do u explain listening to her a ton

it's insanity. but I guess I just don't consider her one of my top 10 favorite artists. when i go through big phases like this, it charts certain artists really high on my last.fm.

first and foremost, it's manic obsessiveness

Dominique, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:53 (nine years ago) link

my top tracks is compiled almost entirely of things i've listened to consistently over a period of years, but in the past few weeks there's one song that's beginning to creep up there even though i've only known it for that period of time. is that right? does it really deserve to be there??? (i've so far managed to resist the temptation to not listen to it and so keep the figures stable. just about.)

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:57 (nine years ago) link

Dom, don't you know you can just turn the scrobbler off? It's usually in your task-bar... right click, exit. Turn it back on when you'd like to scrobble something "less embarassing".

I've only done this in regards of Oasis, when I had this really bizarre urge to to listen to Be Here Now and didn't want them fucking up my e-representation of myself.

mamma mia pizzeroni (kelpolaris), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:36 (nine years ago) link

It is craziness! I suffer from this crazy, too. P sure no one even looks at my last.fm (except Algerian Goalie).

wizards of wonder are the keepers of knowledge (Abbbottt), Friday, 25 February 2011 14:49 (nine years ago) link

I have a playlist of motivational German-language songs to put on when I ought to be doing my German homework. I've often considered turning scrobbling off for them, because they are not really my favourite songs in the world ever and I don't want my entire last.fm top 20 to be made up of them. Haven't bothered yet though.

(On the other hand, I put the playlist on every couple of weeks and I'm not completely sick of them yet, so I guess that says something for them.)

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:40 (nine years ago) link

i made a "bert jansch" station and it's awesome

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:18 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

If, when I did my initial setup, I only selected iTunes as an import source for plays, is there a way to also add my Winamp history? 'Cause the resulting profile is all kinds of skewed.

Simon H., Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:05 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

last.fm should add badges + achievements and totally gamify

Mordy , Monday, 17 February 2014 01:06 (six years ago) link

or shut down

markers, Monday, 17 February 2014 03:32 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

deadpool 2015

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:03 (five years ago) link

that would be a shame as i still use it all the time but i am wondering what is keeping it open tbh

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:12 (five years ago) link

I've heard about last.fm pulling the plug for a while but last time I checked they were gaining users at a high rate so I don't know about that happening soon

Dinsdale, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 21:18 (five years ago) link

I would be absolutely devastated if they shut down.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 02:20 (five years ago) link

How do you check to see the rate at which they're gaining users?

Position Position, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 03:24 (five years ago) link

I remember seeing that some time ago:
http://www.skilledtests.com/wiki/Last.fm_statistics#user_accounts_at_last.fm

Could be bullshit obv and it was a bit better in my memory but still it seems to keep growing.

Dinsdale, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 06:44 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

i'd be sad if this shut down but i assume someone else would pick up the torch for at least the personal stats component of it, which is all i care about anyway. it's really neat to have a record of my listening habits for the past 12 years, i don't need to have it social-media-ized though.

ciderpress, Friday, 1 May 2015 17:39 (five years ago) link

Imagine if they shut this down without warning, I could easily see more than a few people having a meltdown because their stats have disappeared.

I'm the reverse, I don't care about the scrobbling only the social media aspects

xp

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Friday, 1 May 2015 17:55 (five years ago) link

they ever gonna fix the iTunes plugin for this?

frogbs, Friday, 1 May 2015 18:50 (five years ago) link

What's wrong with it?

austinato (Austin), Friday, 1 May 2015 19:14 (five years ago) link

their "similar artists" algorithm is really really good.

brimstead, Friday, 1 May 2015 19:57 (five years ago) link

i mean, the results of it is really really good. way deeper and more accurate than anything else on the net i've seen.

brimstead, Friday, 1 May 2015 20:00 (five years ago) link

xxp - it doesn't work with newer versions of iTunes

frogbs, Friday, 1 May 2015 20:38 (five years ago) link

seems to work fine for me (Mac/iTunes 12.1.something)

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 1 May 2015 20:53 (five years ago) link

It also works fine for me (Vista w/latest iTunes).

austinato (Austin), Friday, 1 May 2015 22:43 (five years ago) link

i don't care as much about last.fm now that less of my listening happens on platforms allowing (decent) scrobbling

dyl, Friday, 1 May 2015 22:55 (five years ago) link

Is there something more concrete about them shutting down than Dudes In A Thread Talking About It?

No, just speculation at this point.

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 2 May 2015 00:12 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

I still hate the beta. Last.fm gonna lose a lot of users when they roll it out. I've had access to the beta for 2 or 3 months and its awful. You don't even get the pic of the album cover beside the tracks now.
http://i.imgur.com/3wIr75d.png
http://i.imgur.com/Bxpp07j.png
http://i.imgur.com/iN7Ajim.png

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 09:44 (five years ago) link

and yeah, it's drop down menus to see stuff

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 09:45 (five years ago) link

plus Subscribers cant see who visits their page

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 09:55 (five years ago) link

how do you see that?

campreverb, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:00 (five years ago) link

every scrobbling mechanism I use seems to have decided to become a dick and not record anything I listen to

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:11 (five years ago) link

same, none of my ipod plays get scrobbled, plus the fact that a large portion of my listening is on youtube and this new design = seeya later

wappy legs (clouds), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:23 (five years ago) link

how do you see that?

― campreverb,

http://beta.last.fm/user/Algerian_Goalie

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:00 (five years ago) link

you need to be a subscriber tho

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:07 (five years ago) link

I think it's open to all users now.

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:17 (five years ago) link

They finally updated their Android app and... now nothing scrobbles at all. Nice work guys.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 19 June 2015 16:23 (five years ago) link

wtf is this shit, where is my calendar of upcoming events

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Friday, 19 June 2015 16:31 (five years ago) link

WHERE ARE MY PM'S

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Friday, 19 June 2015 16:33 (five years ago) link

you cant tell if you have stalkers now either

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 19 June 2015 16:53 (five years ago) link

that's hideous. stop making everything so desktop unfriendly.
what i want from last fm is to see someone's entire music taste in one vista

cerealbar, Friday, 19 June 2015 18:33 (five years ago) link

i have no idea why they have changed it. as you say, it's hideous.

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Friday, 19 June 2015 20:36 (five years ago) link

I'm pretty bummed out about the Android app not working. I use my phone as my portable music player and virtually all my digital listening is done this way, and I really liked having it log all my songs because I use the gig recommendations RSS feed to notify me when bands I like are playing live. That's pretty much the main reason I even have a last.fm account.

Apart from the official app (which has always been shit, but at least it used to scrobble tracks), I've tried Simple last.fm Scrobbler, Scrobb, Last.fm for Android and none of the bastards work.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 22 June 2015 09:38 (five years ago) link

This app has been solid the entire time on OS X: http://meloapp.com

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 22 June 2015 19:38 (five years ago) link

All I want from Last.FM is for it to log what I listen to over the weeks/months/years and to display this in list form. That's all. And the android app does not do this and never has.

boat of boats (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 09:57 (five years ago) link

The old Android app used to scrobble for me, certainly worked a lot better than the Itunes scrobbler which never worked from my ipod properly, used to randomly scrobble about 5% of songs I listened to.

Apart from scrobbling the old app was total shit though. The events list had the wrong dates on it! The further in the future the gig was, the more inaccurate the date would be. I dunno how they managed that, probably takes some effort to code something that badly.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 10:04 (five years ago) link

it always scrobbled, but you couldn't look at any top-tracks or artists lists, so pointless.

boat of boats (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 10:06 (five years ago) link

also, my top artists list has never changed since 2011 when for about 6 months everything i listened to scrobbled approx 10 times per play.

boat of boats (dog latin), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 10:22 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

So, I've just heard from a good friend of mine that uses this thing quite a lot that apparently they've just rolled out the new site today, but unfortunately it seems that last.fm have decided to not complete work on the site before rolling it out, so the general vibe is that last.fm have half-assed it. I'm hearing about disabled features all over the place, the site generally not working properly and things going missing, coupled with the fact that it doesn't seem like many folks are keen on the new layout to begin with.

I looked over to the last.fm website support forum out of curiosity, and as you'd expect there's plenty of whining.

It looks like some people have had duplicate scrobbles return that they got rid of ages ago, and private messages that they'd deleted returning to their inboxes etc.

uggh, my eyes

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:16 (four years ago) link

wow, it looks awful

PaulTMA, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:18 (four years ago) link

From the sounds of it, they've wildly over-complicated the whole site. Personally, I thought it was at its best when it was the original Audioscrobbler.

told you it was shite

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:30 (four years ago) link

Music purists everywhere are cringing at the idea of song title - artist. Myself included. Petty, yes, but kind of a huge deal to someone who sees music as their life and thus Last.FM as a big part of that venture.

i've tried to compose a snarky put-down for this gentleman but really

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:30 (four years ago) link

just cancelled my subscription

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:34 (four years ago) link

A couple of months back, we launched a BETA version of the new Last.fm to registered users and now we're ready for it to go live to everyone.

The new, re-imagined Last.fm includes a host of innovative features that will help users better navigate, explore and enjoy an infinite universe of music.

Some of the features included are:
The new User Homepage - which includes tracks, albums, artists and events (with even more to come) - surfaces all the music you are sure to love in one handy place. Whether it's a brand new release or a forgotten favourite, click play to listen instantly via the new Last.fm Playbar
Last.fm Live lets you visualise in real-time the listening habits and trends of Last.fm's global community. It does this by using a series of interactive widgets that surface trending music, artists, most loved tracks and more. Essentially, what Last.fm users are listening to and where.
A new Library Explorer, which enables you to delve deep into your listening history to rekindle those distant memories. What were you listening to on that hazy day back in Summer 2009? Last.fm can tell you exactly that.
The new Last.fm Playbar, gives you access to a huge catalogue of music by pulling in music from multiple streaming sources and staying with you across the site wherever your Last.fm journey takes you.
Last.fm has also added Metacritic scores to album pages. Metacritic aggregates music reviews from leading critics around the world; meaning you can now see what scores albums are given by tastemakers alongside our listening data from fans.
By surfacing Last.fm's listening data and music in new and more relevant ways, we're able to offer users the strongest, most personalised music recommendations around. Last.fm does this by connecting the most popular places to listen, watch and share music - from Spotify to YouTube, iTunes to Tidal - while organising your listening history and introducing you to music based on your tastes.
Love,
Last.fm

get fucked last.fm

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:39 (four years ago) link

I assume "we're now ready for it to go live to everyone" really means "the site isn't finished, but you're having it anyway so fuck off"

and Metacritic scores on album pages? Big fucking woo!

this is awful

welltris (crüt), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:43 (four years ago) link

By surfacing Last.fm'stening data and music in new and more relevant ways

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:44 (four years ago) link

Music purists everywhere are cringing at the idea of song title - artist. Myself included.

Holy shit, they reversed it?

Goodbye forever, lastfm.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:45 (four years ago) link

oops i self-mangled my cut & paste of their own mangled verbiage xp

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:46 (four years ago) link

xp I'm looking around now and I don't see any place that they've reversed artist & title (except when displayed as a stack, which I don't care about). The ticker at the bottom of the homepage still displays info in artist/title form.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:49 (four years ago) link

Eh? I copy and pasted that directly from here yet it doesn't say that on the site. Weird!

Sorry, that was xpost to NickB.

But even so, I don't really see how any of this is in any way an enhancement on what was already there.

looks like they've removed 'friends' and replaced it with 'following' and 'followers'. 'neighbours' has totally vanished afaict?

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:52 (four years ago) link

limiting Recent Tracks and Top Tracks to 10 tracks is bad enough, but limiting Top Artists to just 5 is heinous

I have never given a shit about artist photos and never will

welltris (crüt), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:53 (four years ago) link

i like artist photos, but i always hate it when they show a photo of the other band x

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:54 (four years ago) link

e.g. the photo of algiers is two pasty-looking yorkshiremen in their bathtowels

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:56 (four years ago) link

The homepage is full of this information that's being continuously refreshed and it looks like some kind of fake computer screen from a spy movie.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:56 (four years ago) link

left my feedback on the site. hopefully there will be enough of a backlash that they make some changes. I'm cool with overhauling the site, but I'd really like the option to customize my lists the way I like them.

welltris (crüt), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:56 (four years ago) link

album pic not being displayed beside the recent tracks as well as not being able to seewhovisits your page is the worst

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:58 (four years ago) link

not being able to seewhovisits your page

i didn't even know this was a feature

welltris (crüt), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:00 (four years ago) link

subscriber feature innit

feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:01 (four years ago) link

won't let me listen to 40s punk, cancel my subscription toot sweet

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:04 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that was a subscriber feature. I can't believe I used to pay to use that site at one point, but it was cool for a minute in the mid 00s.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 16:06 (four years ago) link

tbf I made some friends on there that I'm still friends with 10 years later, even though none of us use it anymore. So thanks for that, lastfm.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 16:07 (four years ago) link

that said, it suggested I would like "I Miss Your Bones" by Hospitality, and I do like it, so thanks last.fm. I always have found their recommendation engine better than most.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:08 (four years ago) link

On the other hand, I asked it to play "bands like Hospitality" and it's now played "I Miss Your Bones" 4 times in a row, which is a bit much.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:21 (four years ago) link

WTF.

lol my profile picture has reverted to what it was a month ago.

Where the fuck are my events? This is quite impressive in its utter crapness.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:22 (four years ago) link

If anyone wants to set up a new scrobbling site and steal thousands of users from last.fm, now's the time!

Jesus. My events are all wrong now as well, they've reverted to some earlier version.

This is quite impressively botched, to the point where it's so bad I can't help but think the new company strategy is to lose some users, maybe there are too many putting strain on the servers at the moment so they've deliberately designed something so broken and awful that people won't want to use it? I just can't believe their developers had a meeting and said yeah this is good, well done good job everyone.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:39 (four years ago) link

I just can't believe their developers had a meeting and said yeah this is good, well done good job everyone.

I actually can believe that. The native OSX client hasn't worked properly in forever at this point, it always crashes. Their forum has a ton of posts about it, but no one at last.fm has addressed it as far as I can see. I mean, having the ability to scrobble is their entire business model. Why wouldn't you fix that?

Position Position, Monday, 17 August 2015 16:51 (four years ago) link

looks like they've removed 'friends' and replaced it with 'following' and 'followers'. 'neighbours' has totally vanished afaict?

― feargal czukay (NickB), Monday, 17 August 2015 15:52 (1 hour ago) Permalink

Getting rid of the neighbours/compatibility rating thing would be quite possibly one of the most stupid things last.fm could ever do, IMO.

Scores of useless and/or deleterious updates to the website and they still haven't combined the pages for Elvis Costello and Elvis Costello & The Attractions

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 August 2015 19:06 (four years ago) link

Why would they? Those are two different things.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 19:11 (four years ago) link

Like, fold The Ramones into Ramones, as is proper, but the Costello/Attractions split is justified.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 19:12 (four years ago) link

Just looking at my profile. Apparently I listened to the album Days by Real Estate 41 times on June 11th and another 10 times on June 5th. I don't remember that happening.

Agree with everyone that it looks terrible and it seems really confusing.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 17 August 2015 19:17 (four years ago) link

You can't get to Groups anymore. http://www.last.fm/group/ilXor still has the old layout, and they've disabled its charts (actually this happened a few weeks ago). Shame - I used to maintain a Spotify playlist of weekly top tracks: http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/0tOUayXLSJS58cBIr5Fsa4

mike t-diva, Monday, 17 August 2015 19:21 (four years ago) link

I find it a bit amusing that there's a bunch of people wanting to delete their last.fm accounts but they can't because the feature is disabled!

i bet that is deliberate on last.fms part. its a shambles

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 17 August 2015 19:35 (four years ago) link

Just found the part where we can leave feedback for the new version. I'm going for the I Don't Like It/Sad Face option.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 17 August 2015 19:40 (four years ago) link

i told them i had unsubbed after being a subscriber for a decade

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 17 August 2015 19:42 (four years ago) link

If they put out a statement that says or implies that the majority of feedback was positive, I'll laugh my tits off.

Don't they have to? It's part of the script - ruin something in the guise of making it new and better, ignore actual feedback, claim success.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 17 August 2015 20:12 (four years ago) link

That's exactly why I'll laugh my tits off, I honestly haven't seen anyone say anything positive about any of this yet!

Adblocked the yahoo suggests thing for linking to a Jake Bugg photo gallery.

Least favourite thing is probably the display of artwork by each artist, album and track in charts. So worthless, the jpg quality is v poor, several are broken and just slows things down in general.

nashwan, Monday, 17 August 2015 20:42 (four years ago) link

Scores of useless and/or deleterious updates to the website and they still haven't combined the pages for Elvis Costello and Elvis Costello & The Attractions

― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, August 17, 2015 2:06 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Why would they? Those are two different things.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, August 17, 2015 2:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Like, fold The Ramones into Ramones, as is proper, but the Costello/Attractions split is justified.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, August 17, 2015 2:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I sort of think that some "& The" bands should be folded into the featured artist profiles for statistics purposes but I understand where you're coming from.

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 August 2015 20:47 (four years ago) link

The homepage is full of this information that's being continuously refreshed and it looks like some kind of fake computer screen from a spy movie.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, August 17, 2015 3:56 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahahahaha, it totally does... especially with the world map and the real-time worldwide scrobble count. The world's music listening habits completely under surveillance.

"A live global counter showing the total number of tracks listened to by Last.fm users since 2003"

ugh wgaf

I'd almost rather they brought back those awful adapted ad slogans in the footer.

nashwan, Monday, 17 August 2015 21:05 (four years ago) link

just cancelled my subscription

― Cosmic Slop, Monday, August 17, 2015 3:34 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm seeing several others saying the same thing now... can't help but wonder what's going to happen when the "export data" and "delete account" functions become available.

HA!

This new Last.fm site will be used in Digital Marketing classes globally in the next 5 years...
QUESTION UPDATED 21 MINUTES AGO

7 ME TOO
4 FOLLOW

As an example of how not to build a UGC community platform that alienates your entire community. No-one listened to feeback from users and they just went and ploughed ahead with changes so that they can generate more advertising revenue.

Disabling the Delete Account function is sneaky as well because the one thing you don't want to get out into the digital media sphere is that thousands of users in your active user base deleted their accounts within hours of a change over because they hates it.

Thankfully, Twitter still exists to vent.

lol @ how angry people are about this

brimstead, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:07 (four years ago) link

Basically all lastfm has done is move their bigdata gathering from the background to the foreground and everyone just realized they were statistics.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:13 (four years ago) link

xpost:

You should see some of the comments on their Facebook page... christ! I'm struggling to remember a site redesign that's provoked such an across-the-board negative reaction as this. Having said that, last.fm have brought it on themselves, really. I can actually understand why people are annoyed, even if some of the reactions are a bit OTT.

Basically all lastfm has done is move their bigdata gathering from the background to the foreground and everyone just realized they were statistics.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, August 17, 2015 10:13 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, yeah... welcometothematrix.fm

Were Myspace this rapid in their self-immolation

PaulTMA, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:24 (four years ago) link

MySpace were bought by News Corp in 2005 but it took them until 2008 before Facebook overtook them in the Alexa rankings. They haven't recovered since.

fucking awful =/

soyrev, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:40 (four years ago) link

They haven't recovered since.

They never will. If there's one thing that's true about the internet, it's that a site which was popular and then found itself being painfully NOT popular will never EVER be popular again. You'll scrape by for a few years catering to your remaining userbase and you might, like Myspace, try to shift the focus to bring in a different group of users, but you're toast and you know it and everybody else knows it. Might as well kill the site and try again with something new.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:55 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah, MySpace is completely fucked at this stage and has been for years, and I'm actually quite surprised it still exists. It's one of those sites that I keep assuming was taken offline years ago, and whenever I'm reminded that it's still around my reaction is always "MySpace is still going!?" - I don't know of a single person who still uses it, and everyone that I know that did switched to Facebook a long time ago.

As for last.fm, all it's going to take at this stage, given the negative reaction that the new layout has received, is for a bright spark to somehow come up with a better alternative and that'll be it, I reckon.

you're toast and you know it

Funnily enough, the moment I read this I started singing it as per the Michael Jackson song.. "you're toast, you're toast, you know it! dah!"

thing is, the website does seem faster

brimstead, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 01:08 (four years ago) link

Couple years back, the Last.FM people were trumpeting LUMI - their way of "scrobbling" the web for you. You can guess what happened next...
http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/11/last-fm-founders-throw-the-lights-on-lumi-a-site-that-uses-your-browsing-history-to-recommend-new-content/

Answer: absolutely nothing.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 03:26 (four years ago) link

Last entry on Last.fm's developer blog was January 2014.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 03:29 (four years ago) link

Surprised to see there has been an official export function apparently for some time. Was this available until they did the switch? Never noticed it unfortunately.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 09:31 (four years ago) link

How do I 'heart' a song any more?

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 10:01 (four years ago) link

I was kind of wondering that myself. Seems to work from the desktop app but not the site.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 10:09 (four years ago) link

unbreak my heart, last.fm

feargal czukay (NickB), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 10:11 (four years ago) link

I tried signing up for Libre.fm but that doesn't work either, never got an email to activate my account, and no way to request it be resent.

The internet sucks.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 11:10 (four years ago) link

Not sure whats going on with Soundclouds future, but that feels like something Myspace should be monitoring as a way back in? (not that they would do it right but still)

anvil, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 12:51 (four years ago) link

As someone who dgaf about dj sets and mixes, Soundcloud will probably continue to be just fine for my needs. It's only people who are uploading copyrighted material that are getting scrutiny.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 12:55 (four years ago) link

Is it just me or is there no "Forgot password" link anywhere to be found as I've done just that and now can't log in (and the desktop app has stopped too as it requires "re-authenticating")?

groovypanda, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 14:17 (four years ago) link

tbh though I just want lastfm to do whatever's needed to survive. i kind of doubt this is that, but if it is i'll grin and bear it (kind of shocked it still exists at all)

soyrev, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 14:44 (four years ago) link

All I used this site for was a plug in which showed me my top 20 albums from the previous week and the previous year. This doesn't work anymore but that could be a good thing? I stupidly often found myself listening to stuff with the express purpose of pushing it up my charts so I could see the thumbnail in my "top listens"

If this kills my interest in the site it might be a good thing. I have one iPod full of music that scrobbles, one that doesn't. Guess which one I listen to more.

I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 15:06 (four years ago) link

I suppose if this does kill last.fm maybe people will be more invested in making libre.fm an alternative, so it may end up being a good thing. I had a look at libre.fm but it's very basic, just scrobbles your songs with no extra features, and since the events are the thing I mostly use last.fm for, not having events at all is a deal-breaker.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 15:09 (four years ago) link

The approach should really be: "your stats, how would you like to view them?" rather than "here are some stats of yours, presented by us"

brimstead, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 16:27 (four years ago) link

Some disgruntled users have started a petition - 1,385 "signatures" at the last count in just over 24 hours - I personally can't see that making any difference at all, myself.

They've now restored/re-implemented the "delete account" function. Should be interesting to see how many users delete their accounts now.

The approach should really be: "your stats, how would you like to view them?" rather than "here are some stats of yours, presented by us"

this

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:33 (four years ago) link

Would there be an interest in a OS X iTunes data-mining app that could aggregate listening statistics similar to how Last.FM should be doing it? Asking for a friend...

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:50 (four years ago) link

The friend is me.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:50 (four years ago) link

I'm kind of willing to wait a week or two before rage quitting, you know? It's a dumb site for statscocking and finding out about music, I can live without it if I have to but maybe they'll fix it.

a poetic ODE to FORNICATION (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 00:50 (four years ago) link

If you're pondering your post-Last.fm future, you might be interested in this article, featuring Matt Ogle, once of Last.fm and This Is My Jam, who is now working on discovery and personalization things at Spotify...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 14:50 (four years ago) link

you forgot the link

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:00 (four years ago) link

sounds like something I'd like to read though

soyrev, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:35 (four years ago) link

I really really hate the Song Title - Artist change.

Also they've changed my profile picture to an old one.

Also web scrobbling seems to have stopped working.

emil.y, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:52 (four years ago) link

I do actually like the graph you get of scrobbles per year/month/week. Could do with some colouring in tho.

nashwan, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:31 (four years ago) link

I do actually like the graph you get of scrobbles per year/month/week. Could do with some colouring in tho.

Yeah. I was really surprised at how uniform mine was. Basically seem to scrobble 100 tracks each and every day.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 20:43 (four years ago) link

Good god. last.fm's "similar artists" feature was pretty much the deepest and most useful/accurate of its kind on the net. But with the new redesign, only 10 similar artists are displayed. Bah!

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 21:44 (four years ago) link

^yeah, this is my biggest complaint. I haven't scrobbled in years, but up until recently I still used last.fm for recommendations.

I also noticed that shoutboxes now only include the 10 most recent shouts (whereas you used to be able to browse through hundreds of shouts dating back nearly a decade)

scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, 23 August 2015 21:26 (four years ago) link

^the shoutbox thing may seem trivial, but there was a certain value in being able to see how casual music fans reacted to Sung Tongs upon its initial release (also I made some quality zings/shitposts in Neutral Milk Hotel's shoutbox over the years, and I was counting on being able to return to them in my old age)

scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, 23 August 2015 21:36 (four years ago) link

i just want scrobbling to work again for me

soyrev, Monday, 24 August 2015 01:14 (four years ago) link

I've been scrobbling since 2001, and this new site is a real bummer for me. Its just so ugly and unnecessary, and they just dumped a whole bunch of customization features in order to make a website that is as pleasant as Windows 8. The site has made itself pretty unusable for what I liked to do with it, so I might just delete what is currently my oldest account on the internet.

Frobisher, Monday, 24 August 2015 01:46 (four years ago) link

I don't think I understand libre.fm. Does it just keep track of these weird no-label songs in its own library? It's reminding me of the OG mp3.com with these tracks.

Frobisher, Monday, 24 August 2015 01:57 (four years ago) link

i'm taking a wait and see attitude for now. usually when something updates and ppl moan i usually roll my eyes so i was kinda impressed that no, this change really is as disastrously bad as it's been made out to be. they've destroyed like 90% of the functionality of the site, on nearly every front - social media, music suggestion, personal data mining, etc. even w/ the cosmetic changes i have to think there was a better way to do that (actually i know there was as i've seen it in various apps etc ppl have made to personalize last.fm over the years). i scrobbled a) because to an extent i like have the data recorded and accessible (i can't justify this) and b) it made suggestions more accurate and useful. the social aspect came into play here in that i could see whoelse scrobbled this act and then see if they scrobbled a similar act and to what extent. a competitor would be nice, esp if i could export that data, but it would only really work if a) my "friends" were also on there and b) it was easily compatible w/ spotify, itunes, etc.

i don't know how many other ppl cared about this aspect of last.fm, overwhelmingly most ppl i knew used it as a streaming service once upon a time and haven't been on there in many years. it would be interesting and perhaps not that hard to do (obv they know what you play and when) for spotify to add this feature, though ppl might freak out on 'privacy' grounds.

balls, Monday, 24 August 2015 02:04 (four years ago) link

I am a weirdo who likes meticulous lists of my music habits broken up into several different variables... and the recommendations.

Frobisher, Monday, 24 August 2015 02:09 (four years ago) link

So, lemme get this straight, from what I've been reading about this:

1. You no longer have "friends" on the site, more "people you are following" and "people who are following you" - why this needed to be changed, I don't know.

2. There is no way of seeing who your "neighbours" are, or the accounts of the people your music taste closely matches... therefore, how are you meant to find people to "follow"? Random browsing?

3. There is no "compatibility bar", therefore no way of quickly seeing how closely a persons music taste matches yours without browsing deep into their library, in which case you have to use the numerous drop-down menus to actually see for yourself, whereas before you could conveniently see most of this information on a persons front page.

4. No display of a persons age, gender or location on their actual profile, they've limited the "About Me" section to a smaller amount of characters and there's a lack of customisation to a persons profile. There's also (at present) no "groups". You still have your shoutbox and private messages, but basically it seems that they've hollowed out most of the "social" element, rendering it almost useless on that front.

5. The "recommendations" function has been pared back considerably, where once you were able to go quite deep into the recommendations portion of the site, now it only displays 10 results at any given time. Apparently, you can't "dismiss" anything or "add" anything to your library at the moment. You have the ability to view recommendations by Artists, Albums or Track, but from what I've read, people are getting track recommendations for tracks they've already listened to and album recommendations for Greatest Hits/Best Of's or artists which already have hundreds of listens on their profile. What's the point? It basically seems like they've taken a perfectly great feature and again, rendered it almost useless.

6. From the sounds of it, the seem to have focused more on the re-design of the site rather than solving a more frustrating problem, which is getting people's tracks to fucking scrobble properly without having "lost" scrobbles etc.

On the other hand, here's what you can do...

1. Better, deeper way of actually browsing through what you've listened to over the years, which I suppose is great, but at the cost of all the features they've stripped out of the site?

2. On the main page you can see what artists and songs are "trending", which is great if you choose to listen to or seek out music that way but many, many people don't - for those that didn't care about how many people were listening to Lana Del Rey, Arctic Monkeys, Coldplay or The Beatles on a daily basis, they tended to use the site by seeking out like-minded people with similar tastes or using the recommendations function. Oh, wait...

So basically, if you want to keep up with what's popular and you don't mind being a "statistic", then last.fm seems to be a good option. For finding people with similar tastes to chew the fat with or to find deep recommendations on that site, I think the game is up... as for scrobbling/stats, well, they're pretty useless just on their own. Personally, I don't need to see an on-screen layout of everything that I've listened to the most to know what my favourite albums or artists are. Remove the social/recommendations aspect to it and there is legitimately no fucking point of scrobbling - might as well use a search engine, or your "play count" function on your media player, and stop worrying about whether the scrobbler is working properly or not.

I guess audioscrobbler/last.fm was a pretty novel thing or a good experiment at first, but I think its definitely ran its course and is worthless in its current form.

another good feature apparently taken away: "friends who listen to this artist"

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:39 (four years ago) link

unregistered otm re: shoutboxes

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:39 (four years ago) link

i do like the new "top albums" thing

brimstead, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:41 (four years ago) link

Just noticed a lot (if not all) of my duplicate track scrobbles were cleared.

Dominique, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:44 (four years ago) link

Duplicates appear to have cleared for me too.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 22:07 (four years ago) link

Last.fm is now largely useless for my purposes: apprising me of recent releases artists in my library, digging deep into related artists (and usually having to exclude other locals).

Has anyone found where recent releases has moved to?

cryptic 'failure of bread' (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 02:52 (four years ago) link

scrobbling works again, dgaf about anything else

soyrev, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 04:19 (four years ago) link

they've limited the "About Me" section to a smaller amount of characters

They've also deleted everyone's existing "About Me" text, whether it fitted the number of characters or not (pretty sure mine would've as it was a single goofy quote rather than an actual profile).

Someone I know is pissed off because apparently he actually used it to see which bands were playing in his town, add all the gigs he was going to, and use the resulting gig calendar to remind him where to be when. Now you can't see any of that stuff.

(I didn't use that stuff myself because every gig it ever told me about was in London, where I am not.)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:07 (four years ago) link

Someone I know is pissed off because apparently he actually used it to see which bands were playing in his town, add all the gigs he was going to, and use the resulting gig calendar to remind him where to be when. Now you can't see any of that stuff.

That is exactly what I use it for :(

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 14:13 (four years ago) link

The big question I have over this re-design is what do the last.fm developers think last.fm is for? Do they really think that people give that much of a shit about how many people are listening to The Beatles worldwide? Who cares!?

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:11 (four years ago) link

You can betmost of the devs arent 10+ year users of it and just want to show off what they can do and dgaf about what the users liked about it

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:24 (four years ago) link

Yeah. I still think there's potential for a great music-related social media site, though... even though the ones I've come across over the years haven't really hit the mark, and last.fm seems to be going down the plughole.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:32 (four years ago) link

Wondered where the gig calendar had gone, I maybe don't sue it as much as I used to but still found it useful.

michaellambert, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:26 (four years ago) link

It probably got bored of getting sued :P

I seriously don't get it (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:39 (four years ago) link

ha ha!

michaellambert, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 18:52 (four years ago) link

The calendar was the only part of the site I really liked. I used to add events to it all the time.

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 19:03 (four years ago) link

I mean I think the general calendar is still there but not my own list of upcoming events I'm attending.

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 19:04 (four years ago) link

I hope Last.fm survives - it is the only non-cynical, non-depressing and global and inspiring music site out there. As an American from Chicago, it's amazing to see music made in your backyard find its way all over the world. I love it as a means of international communication and expression.

The site has always looked nice, too.

Internet seems hell bent on pissing on anyone's hopes for world peace.

Fake Sam's Club (I M Losted), Monday, 31 August 2015 20:04 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

one cool thing that's probably just a side effect of other changes: shoutboxes for albums

brimstead, Monday, 21 September 2015 00:48 (four years ago) link

album shoutboxes have been around for as long as I've been on last.fm. ex. http://www.last.fm/music/Miles+Davis/Filles+De+Kilimanjaro (w/ shouts dating back to 2008). the main difference with beta is that shoutboxes (for users, songs, artists, and albums) are now limited to the 10 most recent shouts, and all shouts beyond that limit have been deleted.

scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Monday, 21 September 2015 02:14 (four years ago) link

damn, i ought to have known that

brimstead, Monday, 21 September 2015 03:45 (four years ago) link

yeah the ten shout limit thing is terrible.

i want to believe that the new site is just presenting a new framework that's more amenable to incremental feature addition (i.e. more stats)... i should care less about this, though

brimstead, Monday, 21 September 2015 03:48 (four years ago) link

i should care less about this, though

yeah even though i know that in the scheme of things this whole enterprise is silly and just not worth caring about, the changes still leave me extremely frustrated

carly bae jepsen (monotony), Monday, 21 September 2015 03:52 (four years ago) link

looks like there's no way to change your location for events?

ogmor, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 17:31 (four years ago) link

I just tried to 'love' a track while it was playing and it disappeared from Recent Tracks altogether ha.

nashwan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:11 (four years ago) link

Anyone followed another user yet?

Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 26 September 2015 07:54 (four years ago) link

Nope.

Yes, I'm still mad at how abysmally bad the redesign turned out to be.

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 26 September 2015 15:31 (four years ago) link

I'm very surprised that nobody has taken the opportunity to set up an alternative yet.

Turrican, Saturday, 26 September 2015 16:12 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Am I just being dim or is there no way to just see a feed of what the people I follow are listening to?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 October 2015 22:42 (four years ago) link

People are still using this?

Turrican, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 23:55 (four years ago) link

Yes, but since I feel annoyed every time I visit the site and have to struggle to find anything I want, might be leaving soon.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 01:42 (four years ago) link

you can never leave the internet...

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 05:23 (four years ago) link

is there something else out there which is good for just scrobbling plays?

literally the only reason i still have a last.fm, albeit rarely checked, but the scrobbler barely works any more anyway and that's the only thing i want tracked

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:34 (four years ago) link

I'm keeping an eye on this: http://listenbrainz.org

It's not ready yet, but could be an alternative in the future.

There is Libre.fm as well but doesn't seem to be under development and doesn't support events etc.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 5 November 2015 15:01 (four years ago) link

Good god. last.fm's "similar artists" feature was pretty much the deepest and most useful/accurate of its kind on the net. But with the new redesign, only 10 similar artists are displayed. Bah!

― brimstead, Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:44 PM (2 months ago)

I also noticed that shoutboxes now only include the 10 most recent shouts (whereas you used to be able to browse through hundreds of shouts dating back nearly a decade)

― scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, August 23, 2015 5:26 PM (2 months ago)

both of these features have been restored/corrected, fyi

scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Sunday, 15 November 2015 23:47 (four years ago) link

yeah there are still things i'm not happy are gone (that you could see which or yr friends/ppl you follow/whatever listen to an artist and how much on the artist page was convenient) but for now i'm waiting and hoping they'll eventually be restored.

balls, Monday, 16 November 2015 00:14 (four years ago) link

Or just revert to the obviously superior old version.

Austin, Monday, 16 November 2015 00:26 (four years ago) link

^

scarlett bohansson (unregistered), Monday, 16 November 2015 00:26 (four years ago) link

...and now album cover art for the "recent tracks" list is back.

i too hope they restore the social stuff... seems like a really strange thing to scale back on in 2015

brimstead, Friday, 20 November 2015 04:51 (four years ago) link

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i431/SwampMan91/icon_eq.gif

brimstead, Friday, 20 November 2015 05:04 (four years ago) link

Heads up, you can now change your top artists/albums back to the old "list" format by clicking on your profile page's settings gears.

Adam J Duncan, Monday, 23 November 2015 10:37 (four years ago) link

Cool. Fair play to them - the lists are actually better than the old ones now.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 12:22 (four years ago) link

List of the most-scrobbled artists on LastFM, courtesy of Reddit user NubsFtw: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EC7c0wUD3IzqRT-zd1Rv2ebS6hUPolsZ4AMr_hRilWI/edit#gid=0&vpid=A2

Black artists in the Top 50:
Kanye West (#20)
Rihanna (#30)

Beyonce is just below the cut, tied with the Finnish symphonic metal band Nightwish.

I knew the userbase was rock-centric (top 2 artists tagged as funk: RHCP & Jamiroquai) but remind me again why we bother patting ourselves on the back over the crossover breakouts of late Armstrong/Berry/Charles et al? Is taste less segregated now than the days of Louis Jordan and Jimmie Lunceford?

Adam J Duncan, Friday, 4 December 2015 03:21 (four years ago) link

sounds like rym is fairly keen on adding last.fm style functionality, ways away from their funding goal though

https://sonemic.com/campaign/3/

dutch_justice, Sunday, 6 December 2015 18:20 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I guess I'm just a simple guy but Knut here really tickled me when I logged on earlier

http://i.imgur.com/gHtNlwc.png

ogmor, Sunday, 3 April 2016 15:16 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

"You've got an ad blocker installed!"
Yes, I sure do.
"You've got an ad blocker installed!"
"You've got an ad blocker installed!"
"You've got an ad blocker installed!"
"You've got an ad blocker installed!"
"You've got an ad blocker installed!"
Uggghhh fuck off last.fm I'm just trying to statscock

Lawsonomy Domine (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:28 (three years ago) link

oh so they made it even more unusable? glad I left

punksishippies, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:57 (three years ago) link

It's a perfect combination of passive-aggressive popup and repeatedly fooling you into thinking that maybe you can use the site, then nope!4

Really not sure why I bother using it anymore, maybe I'll stop

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 27 October 2016 22:02 (three years ago) link

deleted my account when they made the big update. havent regretted it for one second

Spottie, Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:28 (three years ago) link

Met cool people on last.fm that I'm still friendly with 10-12 years later on other platforms. afaik, not a single one of us are still on lfm.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:35 (three years ago) link

Ad blockers are at least a decade old, why is it now all of a sudden that ad blocker blockers are showing up everywhere?

Austin, Friday, 28 October 2016 04:26 (three years ago) link

their use didn't reach critical mass or w/e until recently I assume

I've been using noscript for years which is a total pita, esp with all these gggdndtvbey.cloudfront addresses. I can deal with it though, but I wouldn't recommend it if you visit a lot of news/clickbait sites

brimstead, Friday, 28 October 2016 04:46 (three years ago) link

Did another scrobble-type site/rival ever materialise? It's the only reason I still use last.fm.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 28 October 2016 10:06 (three years ago) link

I still scrobble everything and feel vaguely put out when I realise I've done something stats-invalidating (not turned scrobbler on, left work machine scrobbling to itself through a giant playlist overnight) but I don't really know why since I never look at the site any more: too horrible, too hard to find anything, last time I looked it seemed like there was basically 0 chance of finding interesting music or people there any more

I still want to believe, I guess

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 28 October 2016 10:11 (three years ago) link

Did another scrobble-type site/rival ever materialise? It's the only reason I still use last.fm.

libre.fm (lol..) though i could never get it to scrobble so i gave up

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Friday, 28 October 2016 15:06 (three years ago) link

When I really think about it, it's been a slippery slope since last.fm and audioscrobbler merged. Audioscrobbler was at its most stable in the first couple of years!

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Friday, 28 October 2016 18:55 (three years ago) link

Just to be fair, it should be noted that last.fm now seem to have got rid of the anti-adblock script.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 16:14 (three years ago) link

Also just to be fair, they have reliably fast intensive stats features running for some time now which allow for worryingly deep and detailed dives in your exact listening behaviour over the years, if this is your thing (it's mine).

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:47 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Click "more tracks" from your profile, the first page of results is a duplicate of the tracks you see on your profile. Great work, I should have to click again just to get page 2.

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 11 December 2016 00:50 (three years ago) link

this is only true if you modified your profile to display 50 tracks. which is a thing you can do, but whatever.

fffv, Sunday, 11 December 2016 06:45 (three years ago) link

Ah, okay. Still kind of annoying.

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 12 December 2016 07:33 (three years ago) link

I still use Last.fm and associated add-ons to get it to work on different sites, but the site is a skeleton of what it used to be. They have these superpowered algorithms that are not being used at all effectively. What is the sense in cataloguing listens when there isn't even a way to search artists or tracks within them? 'I guess I've listened to [X] about 50 times, so I'll skip to roughly the eighth page' is not a successful search facility. And as for cross-referencing anything with a friend...

I hope they get bought out by some wealthy fan who can restore the site to its former glory.

dance band (tangenttangent), Monday, 12 December 2016 11:54 (three years ago) link

At least the app lets you see more than just your top ten all time plays or whatever it used to show. That was totally pointless.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 12 December 2016 12:13 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

Finally ditched my seven year old iPhone 4 for an Android one.

What's the best App for scrobbling from my phone? (Reviews of the official Last.fm make it seem a bit rubbish)

groovypanda, Thursday, 13 April 2017 08:41 (three years ago) link

Simple Last.fm Scrobbler

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 13 April 2017 12:21 (three years ago) link

has anyone found a good recommendation service?
last.fm used to have a fairly robust recommendation feature that recommended artists by genre which I loved.
spotify leaves me cold.

campreverb, Saturday, 15 April 2017 02:26 (three years ago) link

Really? Spotify's "related artists" feature is easy to go rabbit holing in for long periods of time.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 15 April 2017 02:31 (three years ago) link

I was kind of looking to short-circuit the rabbit hole process.

campreverb, Saturday, 15 April 2017 04:26 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Welp, finally deleted the Scrobbler yesterday.

My final stats: https://www.last.fm/user/Austintayeshus

Austin, Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:18 (three years ago) link

no more scrobbling for you?

ogmor, Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:29 (three years ago) link

they have a new LastFM app but you have to manually submit your scrobbles. Everyone hates it.

Dominique, Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:32 (three years ago) link

My scrobbler's still working automatically? (v 2.1.37)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:56 (three years ago) link

the old one still works, but supposedly not with future OS updates

I got rid of it to prepare for the suck days

Dominique, Thursday, 8 June 2017 15:59 (three years ago) link

Last.fm used to have a really deep/useful recommendations feature - it's a shame even that is reportedly a huge pile of suck now.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 8 June 2017 16:06 (three years ago) link

Aren't there loads of scrobbling apps in any case?

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 June 2017 16:14 (three years ago) link

I just don't care about the stats like I used to. In the past, I really wanted to be able to see an accurate reflection of my listening. Anymore, it's just not important to me at all. The Scrobbler has been installed and running on my computer since whenever I first started using it (seven, eight years ago?), but I couldn't tell you when the last time I actually visited the site was. Well over a year ago. Probably a lot longer.

Austin, Thursday, 8 June 2017 16:45 (three years ago) link

last.fm have a habit of inexplicably getting rid of old features and bringing them back three years after the majority of users have stopped giving a fuck

PaulTMA, Thursday, 8 June 2017 16:46 (three years ago) link

Same for me Austin. Ten, twelve years ago last.fm was one of the coolest musical places on the internet. Loads of interaction, new finds etc. The beginning of their downfall was CBS buying the site in 2007 imo. I had a paid account until that time, but after the takeover, in 2009, they started charging for radio too. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Haven't been on the site for ages until clicking your profile today :) (very high compatibility between us iirc) I have the scrobbler and spotify also set to record what I play, but I never look at the site tbh.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 8 June 2017 17:33 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

with iTunes 12.7, LastFM scrobbler no longer works, so I've officially joined the alternate scrobbler side (scrubbler).

Dominique, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:21 (two years ago) link

Oh, people are still using this!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:41 (two years ago) link

hell yeah

Dan I., Wednesday, 20 September 2017 15:45 (two years ago) link

Guilty.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 18:40 (two years ago) link

it's helpful when you don't remember a detail of an album or track you liked, i def don't use for the streams or reccomendations anymore

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 18:45 (two years ago) link

I only use to track what I've listened to, and what my friends listen to. tbh I wish all my friends were on it!

Dominique, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 19:32 (two years ago) link

I'll add ya, buddy

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 19:33 (two years ago) link

awesome

Dominique, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 19:52 (two years ago) link

The recommendations was the best thing about it, IMO.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 23 September 2017 10:29 (two years ago) link

Ya

Also the scrobbling

brimstead, Saturday, 23 September 2017 19:29 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Stopped scrobbling from Spotify for me. Looking in settings can’t see it under social. I see on Twitter a few others are having the same issue. Same issue on both IOS and Android.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 08:02 (four months ago) link

same, that's basically its entire function thus why I stopped using it -- in addition to having accidentally deleted all of my music from 2005 to 2018.

very avant-garde (Variablearea), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 14:40 (four months ago) link

No issues here (from the spotify web player)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 14:41 (four months ago) link

I went to last.fm > settings > applications and disconnected and reconnected the spotify scrobbler and it's working now

ogmor, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 14:42 (four months ago) link

Yeah, done the same and seems ok now.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 16:36 (four months ago) link

it hasn't scrobbled from iTunes for years now, is that true for anyone else?

frogbs, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:18 (four months ago) link

I've been using Neptunes for years and it still scrobbling along...
https://micropixels.software/neptunes

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:24 (four months ago) link

For ITunes, mine was down for a while but I updated the scrobbler app and it’s fine again.

aphoristical, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:24 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

As someone in his thirties, I find scrobbling a lonely endeavour these days. All the real-life acquaintances I had friended on Last.fm 10–15 years ago no longer scrobble due to changes in how they listen to music, or they got married and started families which dampened their time and interest in seeking out new music. I feel like the last living member of a tribe.

Looking around to see if strangers out there share my tastes is no longer rewarding: apparently challenged by the sheer bulk of music available to anyone nowadays, which means two people’s listening is even less likely to overlap than before, Last.fm has changed its compatibility algorithm. The way Last.fm tries to drive up website engagement by being too optimistic feels slimy and dishonest: now I’m seeing “Your compatibility with X is Super” even when we just share a small handful of common artists, and they aren’t even close to my most-listened artists.

Melomane, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:17 (three months ago) link

it's all true but I love it. so much hot listening data! a last.fm revival wld be good, tho I am used to music being a lonely/online endeavour

ogmor, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:20 (three months ago) link

I agree with both of these takes. Last.fm still feels like a superpower I wished was available when I was ten, and every time this thread gets bumped I'm terrified it's going to go away. It would be so lovely if someone gave it a revamp though...so much of that wonderful data is languishing inside the clunkiest interface.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:44 (three months ago) link

erstwhile ilx0rs like electricsound and stevem are still listening to 1000 tracks a week -- helps me maintain faith

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:56 (three months ago) link

Been Scrobbling for nearly 15 years and still have no idea why I like it

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:23 (three months ago) link

Yeah. Big fan too. Can we do more ourselves as a community?

kraudive, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 22:54 (three months ago) link

would be cool, im still scrobblin away

devvvine, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:01 (three months ago) link

Still scrobbling here too. 16 years' of data

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 March 2020 03:16 (three months ago) link

Mostly listen to vinyl at home, but still scrobbling strong at work and on the go.

Times have changes a lot since '07...
I still discover new stuff via a handful of fellow listeners I trust.

cooldix, Thursday, 26 March 2020 04:18 (three months ago) link

what would I do without last.fm? I mean how would I know what my top 20 tracks of the last 90 days are?

btw they are

1. Los Tucanes de Tijuana - La Chona (9)
2. X - In This House That I Call Home (9)
3. Buzzcocks - Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've) (8)
4. Olivia Kaplan - Barely Above (8)
5. Neil Hamburger - Three Piece Chicken Dinner (7)
6. Novos Baianos - Preta Pretinha (7)
7. Texas Tornados - Hey Baby Que Paso (7)
8. The Left Banke - Walk Away Renee (7)
9. Wire - The 15th (7)
10. Cate le Bon - Cyrk (6)
11. D Train - Keep On (12" Remix) (6)
12. Jackie Lynn - Casino Queen (6)
13. Mission of Burma - All World Cowboy Romance (6)
14. Nap Eyes - Mark Zuckerberg (6)
15. Teenage Fanclub - Everything Flows (6)
16. Al Green - Tired of Being Alone (5)
17. Boz Scaggs - Lowdown (5)
18. Duncan Dhu - Cien Gaviotas (5)
19. Guy Clark - Anyhow, I Love You (5)
20. Herbie Hancock - Watermelon Man (5)

isn't that fun? I think it's fun. plus tonight I got to scrobble my first Juicy J and 2 Chainz tracks and that's not something I'll ever get to do again, god bless this website and the 100% free amusement it has provided me since June 2010

the burrito that defined a generation, Thursday, 26 March 2020 04:44 (three months ago) link

It definitely seems more of a personal thing rather than a community one now. My last shoutbox messages were almost 9 years ago :(

groovypanda, Thursday, 26 March 2020 07:53 (three months ago) link

for some reason, last.fm still thinks i'm a subscriber/pro user even though I haven't paid them anything in four years, and for that I am grateful.

Roz, Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:24 (three months ago) link

Nice.

What does being a subscriber get you - more analysis/stats?

groovypanda, Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:39 (three months ago) link

yep though I hardly use them - monthly charts, historical charts, library images etc. But I appreciate the no-ads browsing.

Back in the day, I used to subscribe for their radio streaming service but spotify pretty much killed it off so it wasn't really worth it anymore.

Roz, Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:50 (three months ago) link

I still check mine fairly often without really knowing why. I've been on there 12 years.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:11 (three months ago) link

Who am I kidding, I LOVE knowing my stats. And haven't once played a record and queued it up on Spotify so it won't be missing from my data. Nope.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:13 (three months ago) link

Haha. That's a dark secret but yep.

kraudive, Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:21 (three months ago) link

I still wonder what went on there in what was it 2015/2016 when for no apparent reason they rebuilt the site, made everything worse or just removed features completely, then just let it rot. why even bother rebuilding it? what was it like working in their development team at that time? was there some demented management decision behind it?

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:34 (three months ago) link

I think the re-design was meant to make the site more phone/tablet-friendly, as this had been introduced as a factor in Google page rankings, and they needed to maintain the site hits to retain the ad clicks.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:53 (three months ago) link

It's one of those things that I would just never stop using and would probably be low-key sad about if it went under. I've got like 13 years' worth of listening on there.

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:55 (three months ago) link

Also, for the recent noughties poll I was looking back over my loved tracks from 2007 or so and there were loads of great tunes I'd completely forgotten about

groovypanda, Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:59 (three months ago) link

biggest stats gripe atm is that the iphone app will sometimes scrobble a song 20 times after i listen to it once

btw if anyone wants to add me - last.fm/user/jdevine28

devvvine, Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:24 (three months ago) link

And haven't once played a record and queued it up on Spotify so it won't be missing from my data.

just fyi you can use openscrobbler.com to do it without having to waste the time/bandwidth

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:22 (three months ago) link

signed a guy who used to go to great lengths to scrobble vinyl and mp3 player tracks

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:23 (three months ago) link

I had no idea that existed - cheers.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 March 2020 19:08 (three months ago) link

I use universalscrobbler.com to log my cd/vinyl listening.

Was disappointed to find that the new Apple Music app doesn’t tell last.fm what’s been played on my phone - iTunes did.

michaellambert, Thursday, 26 March 2020 19:58 (three months ago) link

Who am I kidding, I LOVE knowing my stats. And haven't once played a record and queued it up on Spotify so it won't be missing from my data. Nope.

― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), donderdag 26 maart 2020 10:13 bookmarkflaglink

Haha. That's a dark secret but yep.

― kraudive, donderdag 26 maart 2020 10:21 bookmarkflaglink


Too true. Color me meticulous.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:00 (three months ago) link

I haven't been able to scrobble anything through iTunes for 2 years....anyone else have that issue? the scribbler still pops up every time I open the program, it just....doesn't do anything

frogbs, Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:06 (three months ago) link

Mine hadn't worked for a long time, either. Since switching laptops I've abandoned it altogether (iTunes) and haven't missed it for a moment.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:23 (three months ago) link

had a laptop with iTunes until last year, and it was working just fine (maybe too well: it double-scrobbled every played track)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 26 March 2020 21:40 (three months ago) link

I'm still on this thing. If anybody would like to add me I'll add you back
https://www.last.fm/user/Algerian_Goalie

Oor Neechy, Friday, 27 March 2020 00:36 (three months ago) link

"signed a guy who used to go to great lengths to scrobble vinyl and mp3 player tracks"

I listen to a lot of SACDs with 5.1 surround sound. I have evolved this little dance where I hit play on my media center so that the rip of the album starts playing and scrobbles, and then I quickly switch the stereo over to my SACD player so I can actually enjoy the music.

Melomane, Friday, 27 March 2020 22:20 (three months ago) link

glad i'm not alone in my obsessiveness!

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:58 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

fyi I was having some wifi issues on OS X, most obvious symptom was poor videoconference quality. turns out the AudioScrobbler thing I had in the menubar was causing them.

in case anyone is still using AudioScrobbler and having network issues on OS X. it was very obvious for me:

1. open terminal, type: ping 8.8.8.8
2. ping times reliably went up every thirty seconds or so
3. close AS
4. ping times were fine

lukas, Monday, 22 June 2020 01:12 (three weeks ago) link

I’m not using AS but last.fm in general has been wonky the past couple of days, there’s been a few hours where it would just suddenly stop scrobbling or my charts would disappear. The missing scrobbles do come back later on though

Roz, Monday, 22 June 2020 06:48 (three weeks ago) link


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