Lady Sovereign is fantastic

grr "Rwd forum" obv wont print if you use < < 's

― martin (martin), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ch ching.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 5 September 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

any news on the legal problems?

― Affectian (Affectian), Sunday, 5 September 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

she is white! WTF?

ch-ching is amazing.

― La Monte (La Monte), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG she is NOT

― adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

My god that Jentina diss is brilliant.

"Bur-bray, San Trop-ay, when da fuck you gon' learn to speak prop-lay?"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I would fuck her up the arse so bad. Like, until she was screaming for relief in her best chav scum voice. it would be like doing a 14 year old bunking off school.

― JayJay, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

does she have an album coming out or anything? I love both the tracks I've heard.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.2step-garage.co.uk/images/djsandmcs/sov1.jpg"

Also, creepy dude, begone.

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm confused now. if that's Lady Sovereign then who's the black girl MCing in that Streets remix video??

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Thursday, 16 September 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

that's her - wasn't that shystie in the streets video?

― stelfox, Thursday, 16 September 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

it was Lady Sovereign credited, weird.

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Thursday, 16 September 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

or maybe she just wasn't black in the video. mad accent tho.

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Thursday, 16 September 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't even begin to say how much i absolutely ADORE lady sovereign. think the first thing i found was her jentina diss - which is absolutely classique even when you haven't heard the original tune. blah blah blah is great but not as classique as ch-ching. it's funny, those three tunes are all about positioning herself.

she's white. she's tiny. she's CLASSIQUE.

she can be found on the ukmusic.com message board. i don't understand half of what those people on there are saying. l33t speak ain't my thing.

you can hear a ch-ching remix on her site. click on the revolving diamond.

she's supporting D12 on their english tour.

the streets remix has her mc-ing on it.

gawd, i absolutely adore her (as you can see).

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my GOD pianos!

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It's okay... It's alright...

You can... You can start making a little bit of noise now if you like, I'm not gonna go completely off the rails...

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.2step-garage.co.uk/images/djsandmcs/sov1.jpg http://fusionanomaly.net/obiwanalec.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I alone in wishing that the forthcoming Lady Sovereign album had been called Haunted Weather: Resonant Spaces, Silence and Memory?

it's not too late, Marcello! LS is inviting suggestions for a title for the LP (due in March '05). Go to www.ladysovereign.com and check out the WIN!! pop up

― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

*WHITE*?? ...NO WAY!

this is like rick astley* all over again.

― piscesboy, Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

and Dee-Jay Punk Roc

― the neurotic rassafrassa of harrumph (blueski), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

and Elvis. and Eminem. and Craig Douglas. and Typically Tropical. and Lenny Henry.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.ladysovereign.com/lady012.html

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 16 September 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

she gets WAY too little mic time on that Streets remix.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Waah wannhearthis waah

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Friday, 17 September 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

that cozen link is so good i'm going to repost the pic

http://www.ladysovereign.com/lady11.jpg

― m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 17 September 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Rossetti in Adidas!

i.e. reminds me a bit of this:

ihttp://persephone.cps.unizar.es/General/Gente/SPD/Pre-Raphaelites/Big/Proserpine.jpg

― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I don't think I have ever seen anything remind me less of a Pre-Raphaelite painting. No offense to you or her. She's awesome.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 17 September 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

there's l. sov stuff to be downloaded at boom selection. the feline mix. the jentina dis. and "blah blah".

― Lukas (lukas), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Lots of talk on Dissensus. Very divisive issue this. And there's this:

http://chantellefiddy.blogspot.com/2005/02/this-is-london.html

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

oooOOOOwaneva go

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Are her jeans on backwards?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Random, maybe it's a little slight, but fun. What's she saying in the second line of the chorus? Also, I thought the last line was "yes, you sir, in random" (which I thought was brilliant) but it seems to actually be "just do sumtin random".

― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i like it too, i think she's prone to the odd sparse moment vocally tho, i'd like her to pack it in more

she's got a such a cute face in the video, but she really does look about 12

― Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know the names of the different remixes of "Random"? I got a download of one version that's sort of slowed down a bit. Starts with the drum track, then the synth squiggle repeated, then the lyrics come in. It's rather sparse, but very cool.
Fluxblog posted a faster version last week, but I'm curious about who did this one.

― Bent Over at the Arclight (Ben Boyer), Monday, 21 February 2005 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

where do they play the video, stevem? is it online?

― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i saw it on MTV Base. but i'm sure it's on her website.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i like her, she seems a bit gimmicky though. like MIA.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

No, not last time I checked. I think I check it more than she does. heh. :-( (By the way, you were in my dream! You, not Lady S. Really weird.)

Simon R did an article on MIA for the Village Voice. I agree with most of what he said, but in the end I don't give a tosser if she (and Lady S ) are *real* or not.

― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

who cares about realness, MIA is still about as good an MC as Ya Kid K or turbo b. ditto for lady sov, she just has a few quirky and catchy lines and choruses to offset it.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ahaha, that's nice stevie, what was i doing there? ilxers are always popping up in mine, usually with no actual reason or purpose...that's how i know it's a dream.

were Ya Kid K and Turbo B not good MCs then?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 February 2005 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

wish there was an 8 Mile: Europe...

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 February 2005 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, i'm not entirely sure, i think you just gatecrashed my dream. the only thing i remember: you were extremely friendly. :-)

Ya Kid K was great.

― stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 21 February 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah surely the only even vaguely legitimate 'criticism' that can be made of Ya Kid K is that she wasn't 'real', so if you don't care about realness then why be hating on Mia and Ya Kid K, who only want to entertain us!

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 February 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no idea where the version I posted came from - about two weeks ago, I had "sovereign random" on my slsk wishlist, and that's the first thing I got. I didn't hear the official single mixes until a week later.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 21 February 2005 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"were Ya Kid K and Turbo B not good MCs then?"

dont be silly, they were the best MCs ever. neither roxanne shante or rakim could respectively hold a candle to ya kid k or turbo b, they were the greatest rappers ever to grace hip hop.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't like her music much i just want to fuck her.

― critic, Monday, 21 February 2005 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I wanna bet that "Random" is the song that will make Miccio like grime! That whole "churr I mean chair" section is so up his alley!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 February 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

lady sov is the greatest female MC ever to grace mankind.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

good MC, bad MC or average MC, she's very entertaining

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 February 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"Random" deserves to be No 1 forever. Seriously if between Sov and Kano we don't get a top 5 grime hit this year we never will.

also, fuck purism. and purists.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

typical me deserves to go top ten. kano was really good on popworld and zane lowe has been caning it so hopefully it will. lady sov might just go top ten as well, as shes got that gimmicky, novelty factor down really well which will endear her to the average record buyer. all she needs is daytime radio one airplay.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

what makes her gimmicky/novelty?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

cos shes a blahbarian.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

there's an interesting question in that; 'is Lady Sovereign good for pop (it's clear she's interested in being pop ala Dizzee, Jentina diss exhibit #1) but bad for whatever underground scene she came out of? can you only ever be good for one but not both? see also Dizzee i suppose, some people would regard him as novelty/gimmicky too. But I think they are artists to take quite seriously - as much as ODB or anyone.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

dizzees got more than enough that says 'take me seriously' or rather, that demands we take him seriously even if he wanted us to do so or not. for every 'dream', there's an incredible, dark, underground b-side like 'trapped'.

sov on the other hand, seems to be all the way pop. i mean, the ch-ching remix, is something, if fleshed out a little more, i could imagine annie on 679 being given. nothing wrong with that of course, i love annie, but sov is still a pop artist. sort of like to grime, what say, someone like the fresh prince or young mc might have been to hip hop, but not nearly as 'skilled' in the 'technical MCing' department.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Has Titchy suddenly gotten over-zealously poptimist/sensible or is this an extended sarcasm tip?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

(haha, I missed Miccio's positive remark upthread!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

hi tim, no sarcasm here (apart from the ya kid k and turbo b = rakim and roxanne shante comments up above)....

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

That was the part I meant!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

ah!

im going to start a blog soon, im hoping my fellow ILMers will visit it from time to time! i will be talking about all my favourite grime artists!

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 21 February 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"destined to be huge"

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 21 February 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

last Thursday she did did an in-store set at Phonica - hella fun. you know how she looks like 12 in all photos? She looks EVEN YOUNGER than that in real life. she did a new song called "Adidas Hoodie" which was brilliant!

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Like I mentioned on the Grime in 2005 thread, Miss Sovereign is going to be on Inside Out as part of a feature on the 'life of Grime' on BBC1 either tomorrow or next Monday at 7:30PM.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(haha, I missed Miccio's positive remark upthread!)

Miccio doesn't hate grime! Wiley's album is one of my top 20 of last year! I just don't feel Dizzee much.

― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

the menta remix of random (feat. riko) is evil and GREAT.

― jermaine (jnoble), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

S/FJ has the Lady Sovereign album Straight Up Cheeky in the top ten of his best-of-2005 list already.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I know I started this thread but...TERRIBLE title for a record.

― Honorary Banana Slug (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I like it (but I don't like "Random" that much unfortunately.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i like random until the chorus.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The Menta remix is definitely a vast improvement btw (even though Riko's verse is actually kind of distracting--AND I love Riko haha.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It's phoned in from prison!

but maybe y'all knew that!

― Honorary Banana Slug (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

It's nice to say that someone's contribution to a song is literally "phoned in"!

― Honorary Banana Slug (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I knew that! It's funny cuz they literally make it SOUND like it is phoned in. I mean I've heard whole records that were recorded that way, but usually using spangly technology they manage to hide that fact. This song ACTUALLY seems to celebrate it (certainly the video does haha.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

alex can you gmail me that remix?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't have it on mp3, but you can watch the video at the Lady Sovereign website!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I can send it to you s1ocki, when I get home.

― Honorary Banana Slug (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

can you send it to me nordicskiller?

she shd have called her album 'blahbarian'.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

yes

― Honorary Banana Slug (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

the cover of "Random" is ace:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0007UT5KY.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

And me and me!

Also that cover is good.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

she cd have called it 'doukutsu monogatari'!

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

She should have called it "Logan Sama" haha

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the biggest crush on lady sovereign.

(returning the wince favour, zem!)

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't realize that this track was so hard to find (?). I'll get to it as soon as I get home.

― Honorary Banana Slug (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It probably isn't. SLSK is just such a disaster these days I rely on well-wishers to send me stuff.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I am a 'mac user'.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

So am I!

― Honorary Banana Slug (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

m'accuse.

― Honorary Banana Slug (nordicskilla), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

is this remix hard to find? isn't it going to be on the single? just in case can you send it to me too please? thanks!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It's on the single.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

oh ok. I intend to buy it properly on Monday because of the cover!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

could you add me to the list for gmailing it please?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

According to her website there is also a Jammer remix featuring EARS & KNUCKLES!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

has anyone mentioned the fact that in the new dizzee rascal video he marries cherie blair?

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Who is Cherie Blair? Is that Blair's daughter?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 11 March 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"Everybody gettin' random!" = worst catchphrase single ever

The Menta remix is damn good though

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The album title should have been "Make Way for the S-O-V" as that seems to be her catchphrase a la "Up 2 di time."

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 12 March 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

gmail list adding plea from me too

― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 12 March 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh could I PLEASE have it as well? Please pretty please with cheeky cherry on top?

S/FJ has the Lady Sovereign album Straight Up Cheeky in the top ten of his best-of-2005 list already.

What???? It's already finished or he doesn't care what's gonna be on it? :-)

― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Saturday, 12 March 2005 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I just forwarded it Nath.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 12 March 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

this of course ought to be on the other thread, but is the album gmailable or yousenditable from anyone yet? I CANNOT GET ENOUGH. and i'm getting a little tired of these really really really super low quality mp3s! pretty please with a cherry on top? or just good quality stuff... the only things i have that are decent are Cha Ching, Sad Arse Stripper, Random, and that really dope precise remix of Random...

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I the only one who's unimpressed with the remix?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Which one?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Cuz if you are talking about the Menta one, that is crazy. The beat is a million times better.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I just need to not think of it as a remix. It feels like a totally different song to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

no, it's not the menta one...

it's the brucker and sinden one here:
http://boom.mcsleazybootlegs.com/lady_sovereign_-_random_(brucker_and_sinden_remix).mp3

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that even an "official" remix?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

The one I have is whatever Adamrl unsolicitedly e-mailed me! It's labeled "Menta remix ft. Riko." Anyway, it's all slow and dubby.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that's the good one (even if the Riko verse is initially kind of offputting.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to add for the record that Lady Sovereign is indeed fantastic!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I still find the original of "Random" pretty weak frankly, but otherwise she's pretty great.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

It's out on vinyl on the Casual label - I bought mine at Amoeba- if you are into owning real world physical material tactile objects and not these mysterious digital files which you young people seem to enjoy nowadays . . .

and the vinyl label doesn't mention this, but it's pressed with an acapella so you can mash away, synch her up to something, er, random etc.

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

As an American, I have to say I really like Straight Up Cheeky as an album title.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know, i don't think so... but it's the best thing i've heard in a while!

and i love the original Random too. That menta remix is pretty good too... but it is a totally different song. I love how frenetic and carnivale the others are though

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I like whichever mix I've heard so much (I think it's the original).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

What section did you find that in Drew?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure that the album can't be out in any form yet and that SFJ has just gone temporarily nuts - Medasyn said at the Phonica appearance a fortnight ago that it wasn't even finished yet.

re: 'Random' remixes - both mentioned in the last few posts are official and on the UK CD single. The original on that is different to the mp3 which was floating around though - busier, bit more bass, no swearing, definitely not as good; hopefully it's just a radio version and the mp3 one will show up on the album.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, the Brucken and Sinden remix is on the single?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i would happily buy so much of this stuff if i could find it online or in stores... i'm getting a little annoyed buying stuff online which means weekly trips up to amoeba in hollywood and there's a ton i can't find.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I wouldn't even know which section to start in!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

this after all is why i've been looking for 'paris hilton' since november!

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

though i'm tempted to not even reveal this... they do have the 'random' 12" at Amoeba... when i was there on saturday trying to pick it up they were looking for it for me and it just hadn't been unloaded from storage yet... they had... gulp... 3 copies.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Lady Sovereign products in HMV.co.uk

...and in Amazon.co.uk

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes yes, but what section at Amoeba did Drew find the single in? That's what I want to know!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't forget the FELINE MIX, people.

(okay it's not that great and is just LS barking over sinogrime, but one for the completists)

― Poundstretcher (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you heard the Jammer and Ears remix, Adam?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

not yet

― Poundstretcher (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

where the fuck do they file grime at all in amoeba? electronica? hip hop?

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Run the Road was on the new hip hop end cap.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but Wiley vinyl was scattered in the shrinking 2-step section!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

GRIME IS EVERYTHING AND NOTHING.

Spencer and Alex should open a specialty store called Windex.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't even know they had a 2-step section : (

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

San Francisco does. Actually it used be really big. Now it's almost gone. It's kind of sad.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The Feline Mix was that thing up on Boom Selection a while back, right? I hadn't heard of Sov yet and stupidly passed up on it...does anyone have a copy of the Feline Mix and/or "Sad Ass Strippah" that they could Gmail?

― Telephonething, Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry Jaymc, I'll only send you SOLICITED MP3s in future! ;)

Feline Mix

― Poundstretcher (nordicskilla), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

No, keep sending them, I love it!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 31 March 2005 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

apparently she's been performing a new track, i think the title is adidas hoodie.

― nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Thursday, 31 March 2005 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Cripes, she's GOOD! I've had a few other tracks, but I didn't even get round to gettin' 'Random' till last night and it's molten.

― BARMS, Thursday, 31 March 2005 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

she is really wearying.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 31 March 2005 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've had enough already.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 31 March 2005 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

curious

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

the beats for random were sluggish and boring. she could be good, but shes gimmicky. it just depends on if you like gimmicks or not.

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

she is really wearying

i could say the same about MIA but really it's the hype that's wearying. after all neither of them have had any real exposure beyond blogospheric fawning, couple of broadsheet supplement column inches and maybe a little interview in DJ.

the beats for random were sluggish and boring

it's CALLED hip-hop...

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

hip hop beats dont have to be boring - these were boring though, like regulation hip hop beats made by dance producers or something. shes an overrated MC. full of crossover potential though, as shes exactly what could appeal to the masses.

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the weird stringy/pipe sound under the chorus

as shes exactly what could appeal to the masses

apparently not, based on chart performance thus far

did people claim Miss Dynamite was an over-rated MC when she started singing and making hits?

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

after all neither of them have had any real exposure beyond blogospheric fawning

Because those blogs are written by machines, rather than ordinary (if not yet numerous) members of "the masses" who've heard and like the music?

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 31 March 2005 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

no but their influence is not enough to prove a significant factor in commercial success. so for however much Lady Sov or MIA or others are praised or dismissed here or on blogs, it won't really affect their sales OR stature will it? but then i guess that's not necessarily so important now.

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

also re 'Random's beat, it's pretty traditional/coventional hip-hop (reminds me of Public Enemy's 'Incident At 66.6FM' in particular) but i'm not sure what would've suited it better. still there are the remixes for rhythmic variation.

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"as shes exactly what could appeal to the masses

apparently not, based on chart performance thus far"

wait til they release her first single proper - this was just a soft release, to show shes starting off 'underground' etc.

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

after all neither of them have had any real exposure beyond blogospheric fawning

Time to read some magazines/newspapers then. The first time I ever heard about MIA and Lady Sov was not in the blogosphere, but in a magazine.

― nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Thursday, 31 March 2005 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

that sentence DID continue you know...

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard Lady Sovereign for the first time two days ago. I am in love with her.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Adidas Hoddie is pretty lame. More fierceness please!

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

hold on she's only 5'1

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Not enough love for Sssh on this thread.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not a massive fan of the music, but i'd love to fuck her in the arse. it would be like fucking a little girl but legal.

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

shes crap, lets face it. most people only like her cos shes a novelty, small, white, cute, and mouthy, and has nice catchphrases. she's rub though!

id still shag her though.

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

after all neither of them have had any real exposure beyond blogospheric fawning, couple of broadsheet supplement column inches and maybe a little interview in DJ

first i heard of sov was on... bbc radio6, andrew collins, in january. well grimey, they said.

blah -- "people only like her cos she's white"?? are you sure?

― N_RQ, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I had no idea she was white until blahbarian said so.

Also blahbarian, shut the fuck up you useless tool.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

most men on ilm like her because they want to fuck her and pretend they are fucking a little girl without any of those thorny paedophilic issues. the same way they want to fuck mia and act like it's some sort of race rape thing.

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this going to turn into MIA thread redux now then? sigh.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not sure if she is white, as it goes. ie blahbarian is wanking up the wrong tree.

'ilm' is a twot.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus Christ.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

n_rq, don't be so dense mate.

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

oh to have ILM moderator powers (but then i guess i'd never get ANY work done)

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

sven basted, don't be so dense mate.

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

funny how it all works.. m.i.a. is blasted for being brown and privileged (culturally/educationally-speaking), while sov gets it for being white and pikey.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

no, we just don't like the music.

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

if you don't like the music, STFU with your lurid, racist filth, fuckface.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

where was a i lurid or racist?

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, come off it. i don't care for m.i.a., either, but people on various threads have been bringing up her st.martins background and indie celeb connections as some kind of shameful albatross.

xxpost

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(stupid abuse & personal threat deleted)

in response to lauren, most people on ILM and dissensus think MIA isnt 'authentic' because she went to art school. cos you know, if non white artists get educated, theyre false and fake. they should all be poor, uneducated, and have no idea about what theyre doing, cos yknow, theyre so primal, primitive, 'natural' and 'real'.

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

um.. that was my point, blahbarian. that kind of thinking is shameful, and the flipside is people thinking it's perfectly fine to use "pikey" as legitimate critcism of sov.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

my point exactly, lauren.

everyone from simon reynolds to woebot and these other self made critical bastions have been spouting this disgusting blather.

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

everyone from simon reynolds to woebot

WOAH broad spectrum

― Poundstretcher (nordicskilla), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, I only like Lady Sov because I want to fuck her ... and that'd be based on what? The two photos I've seen of her online?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that sentence DID continue you know...

Yeah sorry, didn't notice as I only first noticed the quote (and then after checking back...). So yeah sorry.

Anyway, I pass the mike back to ILM and Mr Blah...

in response to lauren, most people on ILM and dissensus think MIA isnt 'authentic' because she went to art school. cos you know, if non white artists get educated, theyre false and fake. they should all be poor, uneducated, and have no idea about what theyre doing, cos yknow, theyre so primal, primitive, 'natural' and 'real'.

Her colour has nothing to do with the fact some find her inauthentic. If you read Simon R's words more closely, it's not that he thinks it's wrong to use her background but the way she developed her ideas. But I do agree that it's silly to find her inauthentic, only I don't think that's linked to her *colour*.

― nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yep. the ones you've masturbated over at least twice a day and once before bedtime.

xpost

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you for giving me ammo for the moderators, blahbarian!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I just wanted to know what section to look for her in Amoeba.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Amoeba have a KIDDIE PORN section?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I just think it's funny because Lady Sovereign has no image at all in the U.S., so most of what I know about her is through various mp3s that people have e-mailed me. It's only really been recently that I've started to investigate her backstory.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, it's between GHETTO INDIE FANTASIES and ART SCHOOL FAKERZZZZ

xp

― Poundstretcher (nordicskilla), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

im sorry, but what model of authenticity is reynolds ascribing to? the one where nice middle class boys go to university then return back to the home counties and form supposedly outlaw rock bands? whats wrong with how she developed her ideas? has he spoken to her? MIA is from sri lanka, her family moved to an estate in south london, like many asian kids in britain, she grew up with what westerners like to call 'world music' and hip hop and R&B. what sort of music does he expect her to make? do any of these critics move away from their PCs to move amongst real people in the cities they live in? by reynolds criteria, where if you have a higher education, or arent from the sticks, or suddenly decide you want to work with musics from around the world, youre a faker. this would likely make olu dara a faker too. probably chuck d too.

besides all the rhetoric about her background though, there is nothing inauthentic about MIAs actual music. it feels entirely 'one' despite all the different elements being strung together.

you know whats funny, the last MIA post on dissensus, just as it moved into racial toppics, they shut it down. its like they were scared to talk about it. reynolds was arguing that race had nothing to do with it, paying on attention to the fact that the fact she is of an ethnic background might make her relation to the musics she works with different then if she was white. which is simply ridiculous.

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"Thank you for giving me ammo for the moderators, blahbarian!"

how sad your life must be, dan. running to the moderators like a petulant child because someone responded after you insulted them unprovoked. bravo sir!

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Abusive post threatening physical violence on me

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG. i live in London, Dan I presume lives in the US, how exactly am I going to do anything to him? Oh well....

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Um, Dan isn't actually scared of you, blah, but since you're being a prick, the threat allows there to be some justification for banning you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

DING DING DING DING DING

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i would gladly act upon Dan's request if i could.

i am glad i never really got involved in these race/class matters re MIA and Lady Sov. i find it very odd that they're considered issues at all. i like them both because they're quirky 'altpop' (being cute supposedly part of why they are where they are only it doesn't seem to be really helping that much as they attract as many jibes as praise for it, and they're not selling well either way) with good beats or interesting things going on rhythmically/musically and that's really all there is to it. would've been nice to see 'Random' and 'Galang' go Top 40 but couldn't care less how well they do overseas really.

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - um, let the record show that dan insulted me first. now you two go and play with each others testicles like the nice mutual cock buffing boys that you are. hope you both shined your ILM Old Boys Club badges today!

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

er yeah, but dan insulted blah first. can he dish it out but not take it?

xpost

― ilm, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

gasp, so blahbarian is not only racist but he hates the gays too! oh, there is no emoticon to express my outrage.

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't Calum have a film festival to run?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been keeping this bottled up for so long. here goes.. neither lady sov nor m.i.a. are actually very goodlooking in person.

i just couldn't keep that in any longer. so, all you paedo-colonials, you're out of luck.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

um, where did i appear to hate gays? i merely insinuated that jaymc and dan should go and play with each others genitals. i never inferred that was a bad thing. merely that its quite likely one of their frequent favourite pasttimes and that they should feel no shame in indulging their love for each others scrotums. perhaps steve, you are feeling unwanted as no one wants to fondle your ball bag?

lauren, OTM!

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

lauren you're such a harsh critic. i mean, the paedo-colonials are no oil-paintings themselves...

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm tough yet fair, which you should know by this point.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

lauren is the most kissable person in this thread. shame its only dan and jaymc and stevem locked into a tongue triangle.

― blahbarian, Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I KNEW this thread would turn into this! Which is why I went out to buy milk.

it's not as bad as the MIA thread because blahbarian's just trolling as opposed to being genuinely fucking offensively dense like the Reynolds/Woebot, er, spectrum.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

can your milk make this thread into a heart?

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe if I turn it into strawberry milkshake.

but oh no, the milk is white. oh no. I hope it is not pikey.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

to address the thread topic, however belatedly: yes, i do think she's fantastic.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - i'm sure your milk is well pikey, alex.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Bow Tesco, innit.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

24 hours!

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

not any more, closing time midnight :(

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

(Alex in SF, It isn't calum.)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

That's depressing.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

yet re-assuring

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

it surely could never have been calum in the first place? he would've posted a 'ts: sleeper vs lady sovereign' thread instead.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The best thing about Sov is the little sound effects she sticks in all over the place, like the cat miaow and the sobbing noise and the sound of Baby Jentina falling into a ditch. I hope there are lots of these on the album.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

it's all about the little 'hello?' after she mentions 'Avon calling'

― Sven Basted (blueski), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF? Strange thread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 April 2005 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Strange WORLD

― Poundstretcher (nordicskilla), Friday, 1 April 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Well yes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 April 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

fwiw, Sov is more of a spare rib tickler (allegedly).

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 1 April 2005 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

That wasn't worth much. EVERY female MC who doesn't push their tits out catches the L-Word rumour. Tiresome prejudice.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 April 2005 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

probably true! i just added the (allegedly) as a reference to a UK TV programme. My post isn't based too much on rumour, in fact (but thanks for rating it).

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

....anyway here's Adidas Hoodie. it's rub.

http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2MZ4XUS7ZVOQM1RZYUDIPVCG87

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 1 April 2005 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Lex you are on the pipe if you think the Reynolds/Woebot anti-MIA stuff is more offensive than blah claiming that liking her is part of a race-rape fantasy?!?! You *still* haven't taken on board the criticism of radical chic. Move on!

― N_RQ, Friday, 1 April 2005 07:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Move off, more like. I'm tired of even seeing the woman's name and you guys had to bring it here, you exasperating bibble boobs.

― BARMS, Friday, 1 April 2005 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if I could explain how I find her wearying.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 1 April 2005 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

yawn@radical chic. its better than gangsta chic. or heroin chic. not better than chav chic though.

― blahbarian, Friday, 1 April 2005 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Clit lic chic is the best.

― BARMS, Friday, 1 April 2005 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i just like le fric.

― N_RQ, Friday, 1 April 2005 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fw.umn.edu/CO-OP/Nestor1/2002%20WEB/STSA%20CHICK.jpg

― blahbarian, Friday, 1 April 2005 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

brilliant, brilliant interview with Sov by Miss AMP. addresses the chav thing and the wigga thing, laughs in their faces.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, nice, but what's up with "In fact the whole concept of artificial, overly-showy femininity, as showcased by most of the chicks in today's pop world..." "artificial"??? leave my girls aloud alone.

― N_RQ, Friday, 1 April 2005 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think Amp's mapping a value judgment on to that description (going from her tastes and her other writing, she's almost certainly not)! just saying that Sov's image is kind of the antithesis of it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 1 April 2005 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like Cozen to try. I think I understand, perhaps.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 1 April 2005 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Wot no album? It's coming out on Island, isn't it? Her site doesn't seem to say anything about it, nor can I find much elsewhere. Does anyone know when (Mar05 haha)? Does anyone have an advance they need to talk about OUT LOUD (note: I'm not asking for people to leak it, just talk about it). By now I'm 3/4 convinced it will be crap but I'd SO DEARLY love to be wrong.

― skaminater (jcartledge), Sunday, 10 April 2005 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)

so what's this about a soft pink truth mix? is this official or...? where can i buy it or d/l it, etc? pleeeeeease help meeeeeeeeee.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

no one?

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I just made it for fun one night in an hour's time, I didn't even cut the sequences, just made a bunch of new beats and a new bassline and clicked them on and off as loops on the fly in a "live" mode after synching up her acapella- so it's really sloppy. It's just so that I have something fun to DJ with that is special. But it's not good enough to officially release even as a bootleg/white label. I wouldn't want her to hear it. It might wind up online somehow, if I decide to tart it up a bit more

The Good Dr Bill said "Disappointing to say the least" . . .

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that was in reference to the Hopper/Schreiber non-fight!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

6 track sampler from Straight Up Cheeky has leaked:

1 Random
2 Blah Blah
3 Midget Exclusive
4 Sad Arse Strippa
5 Shhh!
6 Shhh! (Aphasia Mix)

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 14 April 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

and what about "the broom (a quick diss)"? and "tango"? (i have no time now but if they haven't leaked i'll try yousend/blog 'em)

― jermaine (jnoble), Thursday, 14 April 2005 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw her last night in Manchester at some MTV new-band gig thing. She was superb. Gibbering quicker than Twista, bouncing about, giving anyone and everyone abuse. Only 4 songs but each one was classic. Hopefully, with MTV backing she should get huge. Physically, she's tiny, way under 5ft, but the most intimidating performer I've seen in ages.

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

drew, we need it NOW! we demand it to be available NOW! NOW! :-)

― nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Thursday, 14 April 2005 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The lady herself said it was going to be out mid-September. I can't fucking wait

― DJ Mencap0))), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i found time: brooms on the blog today.

― jermaine (jnoble), Thursday, 14 April 2005 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

turns out "broom" and "tango" (and 2 remixes of "blah blah", including one by rollie cadenceweapon that was on fluxblog recently) are part of an ep called "bitchin", which is more or less the audio equivalent of What kind of things did bully girls yell at the less athletic girls in the locker room back in high school, anyway?

― jermaine (jnoble), Sunday, 24 April 2005 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Today's OMM article about So Solid Crew reveals that Lady Sov met her DJ on a SSC message forum, aww (and she's a teeny bit embarrassed about it!). It just makes me like her more.

― Affectian (Affectian), Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

HeyNew Yorkers....

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 5 June 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha oooh someone has to go and tell everyone how it was.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

me & jones are gonna try and bring her to mtl in the fall!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yo

― jones (actual), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

wanna dj tomorrow night? i'm in a bit of a fix!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

(hmm i'll ring you shortly)

― jones (actual), Monday, 6 June 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

She's remixed the Ordinary Boys.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the heads-up, I bought a ticket. (It's on a Wednesday, the one night I don't work = sweet.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(I will get drunk and yell "Woo, Jentina!" between songs)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

How have I never seen this thread? Sov is like my favorite MC and I only have like 5 songs with her on them!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

From LS' mailing list:

The next single 9 to 5 is doing really well, heard it on Radio One, Kiss and Choice this week, and the video is being played everywhere. It's coming out on August 8th, and there's loads of good things on it..... there's the remixes, the videos the cover of 9 to 5 that The Ordinary Boys did and also something new called U-Myx. Check out my website as next week there'll be a new game on there, it's going to be a bit different. The albums pretty much finished, Basement Jaxx have one more track to do and than it's done, it's sounding really good even if i do say so myself!!

― jcartledge (jcartledge), Thursday, 14 July 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

She was ill at the NYC show, and not in that licensed-to way. She kept threatening to vomit on the front row (which would have made good on her Sex Pistols T-shirt). But she was pretty adorable anyway. She's got stage presence to burn, even when she's just trying to not throw up. I like her. That was the first time I'd heard "9 to 5," it was great.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, she sounded great, but betwixt the ill behaviour and the slipped disc the girl needed an overhaul. I love her to death but when it's your NY premiere ends with you asking the audience if they have any questions and then leaving as if to puke, it's difficult to call it triumphant. A real sweetie and if there had BEEN merch to buy, it woulda been snapped up AND I'm sure that there will be plenty of press about her "soldiering on through difficulties to win over the crowd" BUT the fact of the matter is that I would've liked a better show, with a non-sick girl and working audio.
And about two hundred less people; fuck seeing shows where I want to dance and I can't fucking move!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

I thought the show was great and that the exit was perfect! Why give a shit about "NY premiere" copy? OTM about space issues, though.

― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Thursday, 14 July 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

Don't get me wrong, her rappin' was hawt and there's something very endearing about a young woman acting like a young woman rather than some sort of crafted megastar, but she was off and the tech issues sucked.

I had a good time; I just wish i had caught her on a good day.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 July 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it was frustrating because you could tell how great she can probably be, but we didn't get to actually see it. And also otm about lack of merch. I wanted something to buy. (and wtf with the CD player? I couldn't tell if that was a DJ problem or a house problem) But I had a good time anyway. I'm sure she'll be back.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 14 July 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

"Basement Jaxx have one more track to do and than it's done" are the sweetest, sweetest words you'll ever hear.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 July 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Her DJ told me after the Chicago show that it will be finished next month. 9 to 5 was great live, but "tango" really did it for me that night. I'm so excited for the full album!

― temeraire (r h), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it was frustrating because you could tell how great she can probably be, but we didn't get to actually see it.

My feelings on the show *exactly*. the 6th time the CD skipped and a song was aborted, it was really, really hard for me to not make for the exit. she has charisma and clearly has the songs, but last night was a tough show to get through.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

whatever the last full song she did last night was, the one that kind of unexpectedly went into double-time - that was HOT SHIT. pity about her illness and the shitty knitting factory decks though. and yikes, that crowd...

― joseph (joseph), Thursday, 14 July 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, all the new material that I didn't know was BLAZIN', that 9 to 5 song with the OI OI OI chant was FIAH!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 July 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

When does the record come out? Does anyone know?

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Thursday, 14 July 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it was frustrating because you could tell how great she can probably be, but we didn't get to actually see it.

You were at a KNITTING FACTORY SHOW.. what did you expect??

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 14 July 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

(NB this is my sour grapes for not getting to go)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

I think he means because she was sick and the equipment was breaking, not because of the shitty space at KF.

I thought I saw you there, Tracer, but I guess not!

― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea what you people look like, but at the Knitting Factory the chances of seeing ANYONE during the show is remote at best.
I got a great view of this one guy's shoulder though. FOR THREE HOURS.

The record drops in October, according to her management.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

This guy's got some pics from the chicago show:

http://www.aaronberg.blogspot.com/

― deej.., Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

thanks for posting the pic link.

― temeraire (r h), Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

can someone be a sweetheart and upload a few songs of hers? plz!!

― Lovelace (Lovelace), Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Nice. Great photos. (That's the top of MV's head in that bottom pic; is the outstretched hand Xtina's?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Haha must be?

― deej.., Thursday, 14 July 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

You were at a KNITTING FACTORY SHOW.. what did you expect??

So true. But yeah, what Colin said. I'm used to the KF sardine-box experience, it's just that she wasn't on form. And, like I said, she was still pretty adorable.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 14 July 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

hey! she said she'd never ever ever ever bloody drink stella!!

― jones (actual), Thursday, 14 July 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

yeah? she couldn't stay away from the stuff in chicago!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 14 July 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

surprised no one who went to the NYC show mentioned the oddness of lady sov doing her jentina diss over the beat from "hollaback girl" yet! (she stopped after the first chorus, saying "i'm not wasting my breath on this shit" or something to that effect)

― joseph (joseph), Friday, 15 July 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I wondered if that was because of a cease-and-desist letter from Jentina or something.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 15 July 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

She also half sang the "Hollaback Girl" hook, which was great.

― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 15 July 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

just saw/heard "9 to 5" on the video thread - the beat's a bit over-the-top in its Eminem-ness isn't it?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 15 July 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

Crowd: "Fuck Gwen Stefani!"
Lady SOV: "Fuck Gwen Stefani? Uh..." grins "Alright then..."

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 July 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

what's with everybody intimating she's a lesbian? not trying to make it an issue directly, just curious is she openly or actually or anything?

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 15 July 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

In Chicago, everyone loved the Gwen shit! NYC sounds awful.

― deej.., Friday, 15 July 2005 06:20 (twenty years ago)

Ye Olde New Yorke Times was there too.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 15 July 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

>what's with everybody intimating she's a lesbian? not trying to make it an issue directly, just curious is she openly or actually or anything?

she's posted on a least one messageboard (ukmusic, I think) (you can also see the origins of the Jentina diss) that she's bi and it didn't read as a get drunk and make out with her best friend type of thing

― multi, Friday, 15 July 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

Here's 9-5.

The beat shuffles more than your average Em beat, but there's definitely plenty of Em in there. Eminem makes sense as an influence for her, for lots of reasons. We'll be hearing a lot of Eminem echoes in the next few years. (Although it's interesting that two of the most pronounced ones I can think of -- Sov and Nellie McKay -- are women. There's a dissertation brewing for someone.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 15 July 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

hiya i want lady sovereigns lyrics 9 to 5 if any1s got em or can get em email me on [email protected] thanks xxxx

― barnsley lass, Sunday, 17 July 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Can't you just listen to the song? They're perfectly simple to make out

― DJ Mencap0))), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Tumble outta bed
And stumble to the kitchen
Pour myself a cup of ambition
Yawnin', stretchin', try to come to life
Jump in the shower
And the blood starts pumpin'
Out on the streets
The traffic starts jumpin'
And folks like me on the job from 9 to 5

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

What a way to make a livin'.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Grime's Appalachian roots are seldom acknowledged.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone seen the video to "9-5"? Besides the actual song, it's totally Feminem - the colours, the dressing up as different characters, etc. I suppose Eminem is a good place to start and there's lots of similarities stylistically, but it's a shame that this had to be her first song with the most potential to be a hit, cause I think she's better than simply a female version of him.

― Roz (Roz), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

I think that song has as much Madness in it as Eminem.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 25 July 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

i don't like 9-5

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 25 July 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

I do. But I like both Madness and Eminem, so adding Lady Sov to it is butterscotch on the sundae.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 25 July 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

I hear the Madness too, especially after hearing the Ordinary Boys mix - I'm just saying that the video is totally marketing her as a female Eminem, which I'm not sure is the right way to go.

― Roz (Roz), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

the UBER-KIDPOPness of the video is annoyingly at odds with the "don't wanna see me presenting C-Beebies" stuff in the lyrics. if you're going to have this pop a video, for this pop a song, then there's hardly anything to be gained by making some kind of Clash-stylee stand against doing Saturday morning telly or whatever.

― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

Except (I've not seen the video) the Eminem thing to do is have the video undercut the song at every opportunity.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

"9-5" - finally a really good song from her.

― zeus, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

"9 To 5" isn't going to be a hit, btw.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

9-5 is bad. I dont much like her songs at all. Cool persona though!

― deej.., Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

9-5's grown on me a bit... it is jaunty.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

It's better live. so is Random. (given that the CD deck doesn't start skipping)

― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Anyone else going to see Lady Sov @ the Jaxx party in Brixton Jamm this Saturday? Should be a hoot.

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 8 August 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

What can I say? You missed a good thing. She's tuff! Debut album Public Warning out Oct 24. The title track's absolute punk-garage, to coin a Jaxx phrase.

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

OMFG I Fink Dat Jentina Bad Ass Strip Diss Is WKD!
I Heard It A Few Days Ago N Woz Laffin Ma Head Off!
I Dont Usually Listen To Lady Sov. I Fink A Few Of Her Songs R WKD Spesh This One, I Introduced This Song To Sum Of Ma Mates N Dey Is Luffin It!
Go L.Sov!
Oooh N If Ne1 Knoz Where I Can Get Da Lyrics For This Song Let Meh Kno
Ill Be Checking Back Soon

― Steph-nay, Monday, 26 September 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

So I think we need to be talking about "Hoodie".

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 October 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

http://www.savethehoodie.co.uk/

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 October 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Album's not coming out until next year, btw.

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 3 October 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

revive?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

US tour dates: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-10/04.shtml

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

I'll be at the Cinespace show.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

HOLY SHIT

TORONTO GIG TWO DAYS AFTER DEPECHE MODE SHOW

TOTAL GEEKASM HERE

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

She must like me cuz she always comes to NY on my day off. Hopefully she'll manage to not be ill this time.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 October 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

She really is. I liked "9-5", and now I really LOVE "Hoodie".

― zeus (zeus), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

rumour of the week from a friend of a source in the know:

Sov's recording a track for US - Pharrel Williams done the beat, Jay-Z on the first and second verses and they want Sov on the third verse!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Can someone YSI the hoodie song again please???

― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe Vertically Challenged hasn't leaked yet. Anybody know if it's still coming packaged w/ a DVD?

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

She's touring the states again! In SF in early December woo hoo!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

11-28 Boston, MA - Middle East
11-30 New York, NY - Knitting Factory
12-01 Philadelphia, PA - Silk City
12-02 Montreal, Quebec - La Tulipe
12-03 Toronto, Ontario - Revival
12-06 Chicago, IL - Empty Bottle (tickets)
12-09 San Francisco, CA - Live 105 party
12-13 Los Angeles, CA - Cinespace

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Wondering if Alex in NYC is as excited as Alex in SF....

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

I doubt it. It's not really his thing. I'm less excited now that I've realized it's a Live 105 party though (whatever the hell that is.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

She's an Aunt!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 October 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, where is the chat about 'Hoodie'? WTH, people? Basement Jaxx drawing on 80s cartoon and pinball game incidental music and sonics (though the chorus backing does fail to explode to life - it just sort of starts) while Sov is at her charmingest, filliest and silliest - ain't it doing nuffink for ya?

― BARMS, Monday, 21 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

HIM! WHO? WHAT? HER! EVERBODY! HER?

― Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

YSI? I presumed it was going to be on Vertically Challenged but no.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

It's supposed to be out today!

― BARMS, Monday, 21 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

The single is out today? I should read my Lady Sovereign fan club emails more carefully.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

i do like hoodie, and they're a natural pairing and i think they work better together than dizzee/jaxx did... but the chorus is kind of annoying... maybe pushing that schoolyard thing too far. i only have a low-grade version tho, would def like to hear in better sound.

― bugged out, Monday, 21 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Is Vertically Challenged worth getting?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Uh yeah it's good, but most of the best stuff you probably have so it's not exactly ESSENTIAL or anything. The DVD is very cute.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Ooohhhhh, nice. TS: 'Lucky Star' vs. 'Hoodie'

― BARMS, Monday, 21 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Hoodie remix:

http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2OLFFNYES7VIM3IQ9FM88D2NNH

It really is pretty great, will probably make my years-end best-of CD.

― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

we like short shorts!

― Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Important Note:
The "Basement Jaxx radio mix" is BY FAR SUPERIOR to the longer "Basement Jaxx remix" because it includes a sonar ping sound which is inexplicably absent from the longer vers. Seems like a small thing, but listen to both and understand.

― the ghost of olde ilm, Monday, 21 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't really like this. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

The 12" is definitely worth purchasing. Gotta apologise to Mdasyn, who actually produced 'Hoodie' with the Jaxx and lays some of the instruments, including the synth.

Guys, 'Hoodie' is pretty much 1984-5 Prince doing grime, at least during the verses (taking the Princeness all the way through the chorus might have lifted the song a little higher in its danceyness).

― Who the hell do you THINK I am? I'm the goddamn Batman! (Barima), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

Absolutely love her. I don't follow grime closely enough to know how Lady Sovereign compares to anyone besides the Streets or Dizzee Rascal, but she is the best of those three, I reckon. I picked up the single of "9 to 5" yesterday, which sounds not dissimilar to early Madness, particularly the Ordinary Boys remix. "Hoodie" is in a league of its own, though, and I could imagine an alternate universe where this track broke through in the U.S. if Jay-Z really did get behind it.

― John Hunter, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

Looking at the midweek chart position, I wouldn't be surprised if Miss S actually got dropped before she gets to release her album...

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Also, bona fide US hip-hoppers not impressed: Music Vibes: 5 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 5 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 5 of 10

― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

(The single's not playlisted on Radio One, was "9 to 5"?)

― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

C-listed, I think? Maybe B.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

'Hoodie' is pretty much 1984-5 Prince doing grime

ie, it's produced by Basement Jaxx

"bona fide US hip-hoppers" don't rate Missy Elliott, so, you know...

― bugged out, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

???! SOV is released on chocolate industries in the US>?!?!

― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

"bona fide US hip-hoppers" don't rate Missy Elliott, so, you know...

"bona fide ILMers" don't like plenty of great hip-hop.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

what that has to to do with anything, i have no idea

― bugged out, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

...also, rapreviews.com DID give "under construction" 8/10s in both 'lyrics vibes' and 'music vibes.'

haha not that i'm aligning myself with their style of reviewing or anything.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

bugged out, although they guy's review may not be particularly well-written, he's plenty qualified to have a negative view of lady sov's music.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

"qualified"

― bugged out, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm going with the idea that anyone is qualified, regardless of whether or not missy elliott's second sophomore album is the sun around which their taste in hip-hop orbits.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

you're being defensive.

my point is simply that, given that Missy Elliott has traditionally been given short shrift by those who consider themselves real hip-hop heads, it's unlikely that Lady Sov, who could be considered to have a similarly angular relationship to traditional hip-hop as Missy Elliott, will be any better received by them. I make no claims regarding the veracity of such opinions.

― bugged out, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

fair enough.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but Missy ultimately sells CDs, so get a Missy cameo on a Sov track and Sov'll be good to go Stateside. Maybe.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

new labour lickspittle.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

According to Coolfer this morning she has signed to Def Jam in the states. He also referes to her as "bubble grime", heh.

― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

She killed here Saturday night, by the way. She has stage presence to burn, and unlike too many rap shows I've been to, her vocals were loud & clear. The girl's got it.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

lady sovereign threw a holy shit fit in philly:

http://philebrity.com/index.php?s=lady+sovereign&submit=Search

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that article is quite something.

― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

did you watch the video?

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I went to see her in York and she never played at all despite showing up at the venue.

Are people in the States really as bothered about her as those links make out? No-one really gives a shit in the UK.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I don't know much of it was the camcorder, but the sound in the clip was pretty awful.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

silk city's sound isnt that great but not band enough to justify throwing a mic and pushing over one of the speakers...

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

she was upset about the sound in montreal but kept going & seemed to have somewhat of a sense of humour about it

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

http://rapidshare.de/files/8530386/LadySov_12_01_05.avi.html

― IN UR BASE KILLING ALL UR DUDES (Adrian Langston), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Okay, of all the videos of the Lady Sovereign tour, why are these the ones finding their way into the wild? Personally, I'd much rather hear her perform than grouse.

― Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

because they're funny!

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

I dunno what happened in Philly, but there were no discernible diva-isms in NYC. (Not that I would balk at a little diva-ness -- her name is Lady Sovereign, ffs.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Lady Sovereign acting pissy and immature at a gig? Next thing you'll tell me Shane McGowan showed up drunk or The Dwarves broke your mic stands...

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/sovstella.jpg

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Looking forward to tonight's show!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

I'd hit it.

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Huh. Should I go to this? I'm tired.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

my dead homiez get domestic beer.

― jcartledge (jcartledge), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic!

Only partially because we sort of armwrestled on the sidewalk and then she got me and giboyeux into the VIP section of the afterparty after I pleaded with her!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

"I don't know much of it was the camcorder, but the sound in the clip was pretty awful."

What can you really expect from a sony digital 'Photo' camera. When I had it close to the speakers all you hear is "crssshhh crshhh"

― Yeah I RecordedIt, Monday, 12 December 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)

we sort of armwrestled on the sidewalk

She look like she'd have a good grip.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 12 December 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

Able to make keys hang on a not even continuous stream of beer -> classic

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Monday, 12 December 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

The English beat is boring- she needs Skateboard P, or Manny Fresh or something. Why can't they seem to ever get hip-hop right?

― luecke (luecke), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

is she going to be the grime bush?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

or the grime radiohead?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 12 December 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

hi bro

― joe david woodhall, Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Hi

― snowballing (snowballing), Saturday, 11 March 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

And thanks for reviving this. Im a bit surprised by the lack of reaction about "Public Warning". It's definetly one of my favourite singles from this year. And actually my favourite bubble grime track for pogoing EVER.

― snowballing (snowballing), Saturday, 11 March 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I'd never even heard about it. What's it on?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:01 (twenty years ago)

it's on teh intarweb computer screen

― blunt (blunt), Sunday, 12 March 2006 02:30 (twenty years ago)

Before someone asks for it :
http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02J5G4QW8XRKU33VL03DJ9UC26

― snowballing (snowballing), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:55 (twenty years ago)

It's bloody brilliant - it's been in-car entertainment for about a month. The kids love it too (that's my children - not 'The Kids' - I have no idea what they think about it) what with the tongue-twisters. It's just brill. Esp. the last minute or so.

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Sunday, 12 March 2006 11:04 (twenty years ago)

It's not doing anything for me. I didn't even mind the pop landgrab of "9 to 5" but this sounds just kind of blah.

― Edward III (edward iii), Sunday, 12 March 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

very ditto

― fandango (fandango), Sunday, 12 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

yes, it's the "best" thing i've heard since M.I.A. (lollers)

― geeky trendoid, Sunday, 12 March 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm beginning to think Lady Sov is less and less fantastic with every release. Public Warning brings out the Gareth in me, I think - there's a big kitchen sink "Look at me! I'm eclectic!" feel to the track and there just doesn't NEED to be that much going on. And stop it with the ska already.

That rapid fire bit a few seconds in is wonderful but whenever she slows her flow down, especially over 4/4, I start to realise quite how much I dislike her voice. Go back to abraisive grime basslines okthxbye.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 12 March 2006 21:12 (twenty years ago)

crazy talk. i like her voice. and i'm glad to see she's on def jam, they might know what to do with her.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 19 March 2006 09:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm not a fan of 'Public Warning', but pretty much all of the previous stuff she's done before I is absolutely brilliant. I hope she keeps her delivery fast and her beats simple.

― Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 19 March 2006 09:12 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahahaha they're rereleasing the Ordinary Boys remix of "Nine2Five" to coincide with Preston's wedding. Desperation is an amazing thing.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:42 (twenty years ago)

They were on one of the Saturday morning shows performing this and the presenter said "That was The Ordinary boys there with nine to five" and didn't even mention Lady Sovereign despite her STANDING RIGHT THERE and it being HER FUCKING SONG.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Did "Blah Blah" totally miss the UK chart or what?

― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:28 (twenty years ago)

Reach exceeding grasp? Hoodie, Public Warning, Blah Blah... a damn shame.

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:33 (twenty years ago)

wow there's been another single and it completely bypassed ILM?

― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:01 (twenty years ago)

dunno what you're talkin about, each one of those tracks is still fiyah

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

lady sovereign iis a legend i love her music!!!

― sophie kelly, Monday, 8 May 2006 08:12 (twenty years ago)

lady sovereign is the best hey do anyone no where i can find the lyrics to nine25ive please i have looked everywhere

― vicki mason, Monday, 8 May 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Hey a fink dat Lady Sovereriegn is pure da best. her song wae The Ordanary Boys is pure brilliant n a fink it wood b better waeout them. N does any1 no wer a can get da lyrics to nine25ive.

― Ruby_Od33, Saturday, 20 May 2006 14:20 (twenty years ago)

are you looking for them in english or irvine welsh?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 20 May 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/rgin/invasion.jpg

― Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, 20 May 2006 16:14 (twenty years ago)

yes shis fantastic and fit, defanutly fit

― connaugh dunne, Monday, 29 May 2006 18:35 (twenty years ago)

No anticipation? The album's pretty great!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Warning

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

Not a lot of new tracks on there, unless those are remixes? When is it due out?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oct 31st - and yeah, it's pretty much a compilation.

― StanM (StanM), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

The video is getting lots of play on MTV. Maybe she'll blow up afterall...

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

If you like the idea of Lady Sov getting popular beyond the blogosphere, then a hits compilation is precisely what her debut album should be.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was just commenting on the fact. The only thing that surprises me is that at least a couple of those tracks were on the Chocolate Industries EP which seems a tad redundant.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Any possibility of her having recut some of these tunes, with new beats from the Jaxx? Whatever, I'll be buying it anyway...

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 12 October 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'll probably buy it without high hopes. She's gotten progressively less interesting since I first heard her (on that Streets remix), and the Feminem songs are just awful.

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 13 October 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

Really good album

The new songs are good, and a few of the beats are different from the previously released versions

Definitely a bangin' party album though

― Erock Lazron (Erock Zombie), Friday, 13 October 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

The video is pretty boring - with some weird racial coding - but I love everything I've heard from the album.

― Zwan (miccio), Friday, 13 October 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

yes! i am excited! very! i love her!

i hope she makes it over here.

― Emily B (Emily B), Friday, 13 October 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

"love me or hate me" took a minute to grow on me, but it did. compilation or whatever you wanna call it, that's a pretty nice set.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 13 October 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

i prefer lady raptastic.

― reo fordecor (reo), Friday, 13 October 2006 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

If you like the idea of Lady Sov getting popular beyond the blogosphere, then a hits compilation is precisely what her debut album should be.

but a hits compilation without her best song to date? (granted it was so long ago that grime was the Hot New Thing but still.) all of sov's recent singles have been pretty bad :(

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 13 October 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

No "Sad Arse Strippa"? Bummer. I will buy this anyway.

― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

If you like the idea of Lady Sov getting popular beyond the blogosphere, then a hits compilation is precisely what her debut album should be.

Well, the singles didn't exactly set the world alight, did they? Also, no Ch'Ching, that's madness.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

No "Ch'Ching" OR stripper diss and still a great album.

― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of "beyond the blogosphere," i got a press release today that says "love me or hate me" is no. 1 on trl. huh. it's a good video, probably helps.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

If you like the idea of Lady Sov getting popular beyond the blogosphere, then a hits compilation is precisely what her debut album should be.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), Thursday 6:49 PM. (jaymc) (later)

what if you couldn't care less? honestly, if i like the idea of actually being interested in this album, a hits compilation is precisely what her debut album shouldn't be. so tired of these songs.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

well like anything else, whether the record sells or not doesn't change how it sounds. but given that i think lady sov is an interesting character, the idea of her on mtv i also find interesting.

i don't understand being "tired" of the songs, though. i can understand not liking them, but if you do like them, don't they sound as good on an album as on mp3 files from 3 years ago?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

The comments on YouTube are pretty funny:

MyMuffledScreams (17 hours ago)
I LOVE YOU! i think shes a lesbian... thats hott... id tap that, thanks JZ lol bring her ass to utah ;)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

she's all over trl. i am kind of amazed, i have to be honest.

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Just finally got ahold of the album (via filepile).

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

"Ch Ching (Cheque 1 2 remix)" showed up in Red Road

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

nathalie who are you on f1lep1le?? (i have the awful feeling that i've asked this before)

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

i'm metalmuzak :-) i don't post much cause i can never manage to upload MP3s, only pics. :-(

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

oops should i have changed f1l3p1l3?

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

elitist hipster hideout alert! (so, is it like oink or something? I'm not on there either, and the more I find out about it the less I wanna)

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

Heh. No, Stan. Rest assured that, if I'm on it, it ain't hipster at all. :-) I don't think you can get an account on f1l1p13 anymore. :-( And I never managed to get on OINK.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

I was in a bar last Thursday and "Love Me Or Hate Me" came on.

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

i saw her last night at the bowery ballroom, and it was pretty great. she basically played through the whole album, adding Ch Ching and a sex pistols cover to the list. beware the opening band, they are one of the worst groups i've ever seen live.

― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

OK this sounds totally contrarian-for-the-sake-of-it standard ILM style pro-pop anti-indie bullshit but I definitely like the new Fergie song better than the Sov one.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

The new Sov song is her weakest track if you ask me. Is the new Fergie song "London Bridge"? Cuz that's no good either.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Nah its 'fergalicious' and its some weird frankenstein monster of an 80s bass-pop song thats like target marketed at xhuxk although i have no idea if he actually likes it.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

"Fergalicious" >>> "London Bridge"

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, I forgot "Love Me or Hate Me" -- it's in the middle.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

^^^Yeah I agree with that.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Talk about a guilty pleasure. Those lyrics are so damn stupid! "Working on my fitness, he's my witness"

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

T-A-S-T-E-Y

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha
what a weird song.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Lady Sov. just performed on TRL. She was AWESOME.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

and the album is on sale for $7 at Circuit City so everyone should pick it up.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

Haha really?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

i got it for 10 at virgin too. seven is better though..

― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

She's the new Spacehog.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

OK this sounds totally contrarian-for-the-sake-of-it standard ILM style pro-pop anti-indie bullshit but I definitely like the new Fergie song better than the Sov one.

i'm kind of so-so on both of them, but then that's like the 2nd or 3rd weakest sov track. and i know what ilm-style bullshit you're referencing, but i'm not sure we can count sov as "indie" anymore.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

In the year 2000, when Lady Sov is inducted into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame on VH-1 Classic, the previous post will be seen as incredibly prescient.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

$8 at TARGET (in their weekly ad!)

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hoosteen, what year do you think we are in now?

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://duchovny.net/morephotos/conan01/cona033.jpg

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh! I've never seen an episode of Conan with that sketch, I didn't know...

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Working on my fitness, he's my witness"

How is this worse than Fergie's "they treat me really nicely, they buy me all these ice-ys"?

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 06:46 (nineteen years ago)

Er, never mind, didn't realize you were already talking about Fergie, not LS. In which case those lyrics actually represent a step up.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 07:10 (nineteen years ago)

She's the new Spacehog.

Considering she's got more than one good song and actual fans, I'd say she's out in front of them at this point. Course, you've set the bar fairly low there.

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Spacehog had a good song?

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, one.

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

"In the Meantime" was decent faux-glam.

― Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder what everyone would be saying about this album if most of these songs hadn't been released in some form before the album was released. would pitchfork still have given it the 6.4 if it was the first time they had heard random or a little bit of shh?

― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Thursday, 2 November 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think so.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 2 November 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

...okay, that Cookie Monster bit was definitely not in "Random" last time I heard it. Um.

― Telephonething (Telephonething), Thursday, 2 November 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

would pitchfork still have given it the 6.4 if it was the first time they had heard random or a little bit of shh?

Definitely.

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Thursday, 2 November 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

i finally sat down and listened to it all the way through as an album, instead of as bits and pieces accumulated on hard drives over the last few years.

it's a great record. imaginative and funny, varied, catchy, chockablock with bright beats, good lines, good hooks and serious skills. the weaker tracks benefit from being album cuts rather than sub-grade singles, and the stronger tracks still sound as good as they ever have. redshirt rookie of the year.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

Um.. are we listening to the same album? I find her ever so annoying, listening to her album makes me long for some Roots Manuva.

― Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Sunday, 5 November 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

When will the album officialy come out in the UK?

― zeus (zeus), Sunday, 5 November 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

featuring the smash
"Love Me or Hate Me"
As seen and heard in the Verizon
Chocolate TV commercial
(Verizon Wireless)

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 5 November 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

"totally sweet"

Um.. are we listening to the same album?

i don't know! does yours say "lady sovereign" on it?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 6 November 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

ok obv this thing's on mtv like crazy (pitched as a new p!nk basically which honestly never occurred to me even though now it's obv 'of course that's where she'd slot'), but has anyone heard it on radio yet? chart placement would seem to indicate it's getting some airplay somewhere - but where?

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 6 November 2006 07:10 (nineteen years ago)

I find her ever so annoying, listening to her album makes me long for some Roots Manuva.

That's maybe the meanest thing I've read all year!

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder what everyone would be saying about this album if most of these songs hadn't been released in some form before the album was released. would pitchfork still have given it the 6.4 if it was the first time they had heard random or a little bit of shh?

well, we'd reviewed seven of the album's 13 tracks between Feb 2005-July 2006, and unless my math is off they averaged 3.14/5 stars (or 6.28/10).

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Sonned by math!

― struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

but has anyone heard it on radio yet?

LMoHM has been all over B96, the black pop station here in the twin cities. the last time i looked into it, it wasn't rating especially high in B96 web polls, and it hadn't made much of a mark on billboard either, so i sort of assumed it was living off a def jam push of some kind (without really knowing how that stuff works), but yes, it's been played at least in medium rotation.

― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh alright, maybe she's not THAT bad.. I get the feeling she'd be really fun live..

― Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

would pitchfork still have given it the 6.4 if it was the first time they had heard random or a little bit of shh?

Wow, I actually meant definitely NOT.

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Is it just me, or does Lady Sov look a _lot_ like one of the "supporting stars" from the average Max Hardcore movie?

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.foundrymusic.com/porn/interviews/maxhardcore_interview4.jpg
http://www.jameshyman.com/blog/archives/Lady%20SovereignJames.jpg

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

but has anyone heard it on radio yet?

I've heard "Love Me or Hate Me" a handful of times in Chicago. My friend Elizabeth reports hearing it "all the time" as she was driving from here to Michigan for a wedding last month, which means it's also getting played in, like, Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids. It's currently #47 in the US.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

jesus christ dom

― geoff (gcannon), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/reviews/lady-sovereign/public-warning.htm

Wow, Lady Sov is no more hip shockah! Kode9+Spaceape ARE the new shit, check the comments, and lock this thread!

― zeus (zeus), Saturday, 11 November 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

it seems somehow appropriate that the comments on my clueless, contextless pan are all about even more obscure dance stuff I couldn't care less about

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Saturday, 11 November 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that was my point too. Perhaps they were exactly the same persons who were enthusiastic about "Random" 2 years ago. But nowadays dubstep is the new grime.

― zeus (zeus), Saturday, 11 November 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

god "Hoodie" is so good. Where has she gone? Also, cuet.

― wanko ergo sum, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOkKoGzANNA

― wanko ergo sum, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 04:28 (eighteen years ago)

"According to her MySpace bulletin a second album is due for release in Spring 2008. Plans for a tour are also mentioned"

― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

Snakes on a plane!

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:48 (seventeen years ago)

RIP.

― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

no kiddin'

― jonathan - stl, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/wallpaper/640x480/ordinary_boys_lady_sov.jpg

remember her this way

― banriquit, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

I'll mostly remember the laughter.

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:54 (seventeen years ago)

She's in a better place now.

― leavethecapital, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

ok obv this thing's on mtv like crazy (pitched as a new p!nk basically which honestly never occurred to me even though now it's obv 'of course that's where she'd slot'), but has anyone heard it on radio yet? chart placement would seem to indicate it's getting some airplay somewhere - but where?
-- j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 6 November 2006 07:10 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Man, the invention of Google in 2007 must have made finding out stuff like this so much easier.

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)

a zing two years in the making!

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)

dom don't you have a ms dynamite thread to revive?

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:25 (seventeen years ago)

or maybe we could all laugh about aimee mann's declining celebrity

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

as long as it's a woman, it's funny!

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

Wrong, women aren't funny.

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, Victoria Wood's 80s stuff is pretty good but other than that, zip.

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)

as long as it's a woman, it's funny!

Defend the Indefensible: Jared of Subway

― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

Come on, you're ruining TH's indignant fun.

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:40 (seventeen years ago)

I still like vertically challenged. but she went lightweight with a quickness.

― Edward III, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:56 (seventeen years ago)

what's going on with her? seems to be missing from the media.

― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 9 February 2009 11:42 (seventeen years ago)

i've been getting promo emails about her new album, along with a 12-minute teaser mix. some sounds promising. but i actually liked public warning, so don't trust me. (there's a bit on the mix that borrows from "close to you," which i don't know if it's on the album or not but is a little o_0.)

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

(maybe she figures that if m.i.a. can get rich off the clash, a cure sample is the fastest way to fame. soon to follow: "people are people" with dizzee rascal and dave gahan.)

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

there's a bit on the mix that borrows from "close to you," which i don't know if it's on the album or not but is a little o_0

heard this on 1Xtra - eeh. would probably do better business to get on a calvinharris-y electropop joint.

― O Supermanchiros (blueski), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

Her whole aesthetic is terrible and has been since, what, the first half of 2005?

― Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

sounds promising. but i actually liked public warning, so don't trust me

I've heard the new album, think it's spotty, but like it anyway. It's also short -- 10 songs -- which is a good thing. (Didn't notice anything sounding like "Close To You.") But yeah, I liked Public Warning too. People who hated that one will almost definitely hate the new one even more.

― xhuxk, Monday, 9 February 2009 15:54 (seventeen years ago)

Is it more like "Public Warning" end of that album or the "My England" end?

― nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Monday, 9 February 2009 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

uh ok i actually am liking the new album. "human" could be enormous

― k3vin k., Sunday, 22 February 2009 21:12 (seventeen years ago)

Chuck, do you mean "Close to Me"? Because one song totally is her rhyming on top of that Cure song.

― Matos W.K., Sunday, 22 February 2009 21:46 (seventeen years ago)

it would be awesome if she rhymed over "close to you"

yachtgrime!

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 23 February 2009 05:18 (seventeen years ago)

I was answering Paper Plans' "Close to You" claim. ("Close To Me" is another question, but then I don't always have the best Curedar in the world.)

― xhuxk, Monday, 23 February 2009 06:28 (seventeen years ago)

"Close To Me" is a good idea (haven't heard the song) - worked excellently as the basis for a dancehall riddim about six years ago.

― Tim F, Monday, 23 February 2009 06:43 (seventeen years ago)

yeah sorry i meant "close to me." i'm having song-title dyslexia lately.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 23 February 2009 07:04 (seventeen years ago)

There's a song called "Food Play" on the new album that makes me want to throw up.

― gtfoer spurlock (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

all i really remember is "human" which was m.i.a.-biting at its most blatant but i thought it was really good!

― k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 February 2009 23:15 (seventeen years ago)

her finest moment:

so long ago :(

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 23:24 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.spin.com/node/45447
http://www.lasvegascitylife.com/articles/2009/04/09/music/cd/iq_27986654.txt

― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe not fantastic, but... I'm glad she's around.

― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 02:19 (seventeen years ago)

Me too. Wonder if my review will be the only one not to even mention "So Human" (which I thought was one of the duller tracks on the album, Cure sample or no.) Had no idea it was considered a "key cut" when I wrote that.

― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 02:33 (seventeen years ago)

My review doesn't mention "So Human" Chuck, though it's only 300 words so I didn't go into too many specifics. I think it's a stronger record than people are giving it credit for, though on the other hand all the people who are saying it's a massive letdown are correspondingly overrating the debut.

― Tim F, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 04:13 (seventeen years ago)

NME captures what I was after--Sov as cheek in lazing.

http://www.nme.com/reviews/10317

― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

Oh boy.

From Stereogum:

R.I.P. Lady Sov's Music Career • If it wasn't clear already... The Biggest Midget In The Game's appearing on Celebrity Big Brother with luminaries like Stephen Baldwin, Heidi Fleiss, cross-dressing cage fighter Alex Reid, Ronnie Wood's ex-girlfriend Ekaterina Ivanova, and Sisqo. Everybody get awkward.

― Darin, Monday, 4 January 2010 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

should've put Jentina in too

― mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 4 January 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)

damn thought that was "tiger woods' ex girlfriend" for a sec there, would have watched. also sisqo!

― the bait vs. radrake david (k3vin k.), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:13 (sixteen years ago)

IMO her music career died after Vertically Challenged EP.

― Without Curves, I would feel deflated. I like Curves. They are best. (Stevie D), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:31 (sixteen years ago)

also ugh at "cross-dressing" cage fighter

― Without Curves, I would feel deflated. I like Curves. They are best. (Stevie D), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:32 (sixteen years ago)

lady sov is on "this week" with diane abbott, andrew neil, and michael portillo!!

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 22 January 2010 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

she pulled a preston!?

― danzig, Friday, 22 January 2010 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

the "got you dancing" song of hers that they use in this bally fitness commercial (or whatever the fuck) is one of the most dreadful things i've ever heard -- never heard ch-ching so i will always remember her as pretty much useless

― waka shame (J0rdan S.), Friday, 22 January 2010 01:18 (sixteen years ago)

I hate that song, but I do like her track that samples The Cure, "So Human".

― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 22 January 2010 01:19 (sixteen years ago)

never heard ch-ching so i will always

boooooo

― innocent snack attack victim (sic), Friday, 22 January 2010 01:31 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_KP9x80Z9Q

― everything, Friday, 13 February 2015 00:06 (eleven years ago)

Unkind, but perhaps deserved.

― stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:25 (eleven years ago)

Hey, a check's a check.

― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 13 February 2015 03:50 (eleven years ago)

cha ching still so amazing

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:23 (six years ago)

Omg i totally forgot she existed.

― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:25 (six years ago)

around 2010 she did celeb big brother, her mother died, she came out, and no music since :/

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:34 (six years ago)

I totally played the hell out of her debut that one week in 2004.

Listening to "Love Me or Hate Me" now

― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:38 (six years ago)

Wtf music video seems unavailable now

― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:44 (six years ago)

was thinking about the lady sov v jentina beef the other day

― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 22:07 (six years ago)

ilm get random!

now i follow her on twitter

― maffew12, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:12 (six years ago)