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very polar reaction to these guys, as to be expected. lots of gossip abounds but at any rate what's your take? kinda of a chameleonic career: early shoegaze roots gave forth to ambient-prog then sraight-up indie rock (only lasting for an EP) to british invasion and then finally bent psych-folk.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Search:
Better Can't Make Your Life Better (either LP version)
A Brief History Of Amazing Letdowns EP

More later when I'm more awake... sorry.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 03:51 (fifteen years ago) link

my friend is always lameting why the shins are so big and the lilys aren't. I don't have a good answer for that. search eccsame the photon band, though. Destroy the 3 Way.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, "the 3 way" was kinda where he hit the wall a bit. i haven't heard "precollection" or the new self-titled one though so he may have picked up the ball again. my favourite is still the mbv-flavoured debut and "better can't make your life better", but all the other records have their excellent moment. "february fourteenth" literally changed my musical landscape permanently.

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

moments

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"returns every morning" and "welfare murder plot" both shit all over everything the shins have and could ever do, and i like the shins.

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

ECCSAME = BLISS

That is all.

Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 05:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"Elevator Is Temporary" from "Better Can't Make Your Life Better" is one of my all-time faves.
Can anyone tell me why there are two different mixes of "Better..", one more sixties sounding than the other.

mzui, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

What was their proto-Neu album like? The Darla Bliss Out series?

(that's probably the wrong word, but you know what I mean, anyway)

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link

it was probably the best bliss out release, which is to say it was still duller than dishwater (actually it was ok but nothing special)

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Can anyone tell me why there are two different mixes of "Better..", one more sixties sounding than the other.

The album came out in the US with the original mix, but after Nanny In Manhattan appeared in a UK commercial there was enough of a buzz that Kurt was able to remix and beef up some of the tracks. The two versions also have slightly different tracklistings.

Precollection sounds utterly forgettable (and almost like mixing was never finished) on first listen, but it's a real (albeit slow) grower.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link

This band is one of my top 5 favorites, but it is real work being such a fan. Everything through Better Can't Make Your Life Better is untouchable, especially Brief History of Amazing Letdowns. I still haven't been able to get my bearings on Precollections after having it for about a year, but I am sure in time I'll get around to liking it. Why oh why can't Kurt just go back and give us something amazing again like Eccsame? Woe is (nerdy) me.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I adore--absolutely adore--the first half of Lilys' career. From that period, absolutely search:

"February 14th"
"Claire Hates Me"
"Periscope"
"Touch the Water"
"Elizabeth Color Wheel"
"Threw a Day"
all of Brief History of Amazing Letdowns
all of Eccsame the Photon Band

"Ginger" and "Claire Hates Me" are two of my favorite songs ever. Several others of theirs aren't far behind.

But, much to my guilt, I simply don't much like Lilys' second half. The Kinks thing just really doesn't do it for me--I liked them so much better even when they were just ripping off MBV. So I guess destroy everything post-Eccsame, except:

"You Win"
"A Nanny in Manhattan"
"The Perception Room"
"Precollection"

maybe one or two others. This band breaks my heart.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link

ARgahargafdadazzzzzz...

Sorta my take on them, really. Yeah, the MBV knockoff is bemusing and all but otherwise, no. I forget the exact nature of the withering comment I delivered after their yawnsome set at Terrastock V, but whatever it was was sufficiently cold and dismissive enough (and involved a negative comparison to Richard Ashcroft's solo work...which I hate) to surprise even Elvis Telecom. Kurt Wossname is a fine and excellent fan of many good records and sounds who should never be allowed near a recording studio.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Nanny in Manhattan, esp. running out your front door in the morning, late for work.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Yay Dr. Bill -- "Clair hates me" is my favorite song.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Awesome. For some reason, no one ever talks about that song when discussing Lilys. It's the one that really made me love the band.

If only it ended better!

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Does anybody have the "Send In The Subs" bootleg of unreleased material? I have a few MP3s off of file-sharing but never the complete album. What I've heard is pretty great.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to have it...if I'm remembering correctly some of it came out (as finished songs) on the Aspera Ad Astra split. It was mostly instrumental, right? (I love the lilys, and I remember very little of Subs, which makes me think I didn't like it.) A gazillion live tracks here:

http://www.diamond.ssl.physics.ncsu.edu/lilys/

dlp9001, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

haven't listened to 'eccsame' in years, but i used to quite love it. (in fact, i haven't SEEN it for year, i wonder if i haven't lost it.)(the album, that is.)

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I've got a copy of Send in the Subs. It was mostly outtakes from Eccsame, alternate mixes and instrumental takes. Interesting to listen to, fer sure. It might have the stuff from the Tigerstyle split; I can't remember. I'll have to go home and look at it.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i think a lot of the lilys success [or lack thereof] is due to heasley being unable to keep his band situations on an even keel.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a new record called 'the lilys'?
i think precollection is great, adds some xtc to his kinks worship. the shoegaze stuff was a bore. i remember when i lived in DC an ex-lily was working the cash register at vinyl ink and got very upset at me for buying in the presence of nothing, told me it was crap, he was right.

they are a thousand times better than the shins. but pas/cal is making the songs i wish the lilys would make now.

the manual blissout is better than the lilys blissout.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

new on rainbow quartz: lilys "s/t"

http://www.rainbowquartz.com/albtnails/rqtz102.jpg

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i stopped paying attention to blissouts after the lilys one

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Is the actual cover that Edward Gorey drawing? That I'll grant as spiff.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:29 (fifteen years ago) link

this is a weird release, huh

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I hit the link and can't tell if this is some sort of re-treaded Precollections with 3 or 5 new songs (depending on which part of the web site you read). Of course the label hype makes it sound super. I guess we'll see. Doesn't look like it is generally available yet. Maybe someone here has their mitts on it?

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh and about the the second version of Better Can't Make Your Life Better... mostly it's a handful of quick edits and a whole lot of string and brass arrangements added. Some vocals were brought up. "Elevator Is Temporary" is made even more dramatic which is the real winner... also "Returns Every Morning" has this epic crescendo before the coda.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Right on Gygax & dlp, thanks very much for the info..!

mzui, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I finally got to hear the "The Lilys" album. The three new songs are very good. Not *incredible*. Not average. Kurt seems to be looking for a way to combine several of his band's sounds: there's still the 60's thing (with his voice sometimes sounding like Robert Pollard, which doesn't thrill me so much) but he's starting to fill in all the space in the mix as in the older days. It's actually a pretty nice sound, though I sometimes wonder if he's just taken an incredibly circuitous route to arriving at a place very similar to Lenola. I still think he's got the best chord changes around, at least since Scott Miller stopped recording.

I hadn't heard the original album in a while, so I can't tell the difference w/the remixes...whatever the changes are, they don't smack you in the face. The sequencing is better than on Precollection.

dlp9001, Saturday, 31 July 2004 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I sometimes wonder if he's just taken an incredibly circuitous route to arriving at a place very similar to Lenola

Glad I stuck with Lenola, then!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
If you've wandered over to the Returns Every Morning fan site the discography mentions a lot of recordings between 1990 and 1992, as well as some video of the band from that period. Any one ever come across the audio or video? Any helpful hints for tracking it down? I'm within spitting distance of owning all of their commercially available material, and I've got Send In the Subs and the other fairly available boots. But this early stuff, both audio and video, doesn't seem to want to reveal itself to me.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i remember NME giving better... a 9 on its initial release but then they quickly soured on them after the nanny in manhattan commercial and decided to give the reissue a 2. the reissue has the nice b-side from nanny in manhattan on it, i forget what it was called. i remember having the sub-pop single and i taped it and for some reason it played slightly too fast and after i fixed it i realized it sounded better sped up slightly but i had already taped over the songs. he needs to make a record with andrew prinz producing but i imagine his ego is too out of control for that.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the Nanny b-side is "More Than That is Deserved."

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link

weird, i woke up this morning and put on history of amazing letdowns just to hear "ginger".

if you've got a moment, folks should check out this philly band called THE A-SIDES [http://www.a-sides.net/]. they started off as this rudimentary garage / 60's throwback on their first single but their recently released full length is as close as you're going to get to the second coming of classic lilys. and the thing is, when i listen to the record, there's no blatant ripping off of heasley's style -- its just got a similar vibe to the classic records. best local release of the year, hands down.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Purchased and eagerly awaited. Thanks for the tip.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:45 (fourteen years ago) link

he needs to make a record with andrew prinz producing

he certainly does. actually a lot of people do. he's the twee nigel godrich.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

it's true. man he'd be perfect for the radio dept. too.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 25 April 2005 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...
hay guyz i dont know anything about these dudes but i think this record is amazing
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd200/d235/d23508ecxm8.jpg

and what, Sunday, 13 May 2007 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

no foolin'

"returns every morning" and "welfare murder plot" both shit all over everything the shins have and could ever do, and i like the shins.

this is still true (except i like the shins less now)

electricsound, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

I have every Lilys record on my iPod at ALL TIMES.

Maybe I am insane.

I think "Better Can't Make Your Life Better" is my favorite.

I still wear cords...

Saxby D. Elder, Monday, 14 May 2007 03:23 (twelve years ago) link

the last lilys record was not good.

keythkeyth, Monday, 14 May 2007 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"ginger" from A Brief History of Amazing Letdowns" is catchy as hell. I can see Ned's complaints about their more-MBV sounding stuff. They aren't all that great at it (which, given the setting, is what you saw at that Terrastock set you mention upthread?). As dlp9001 sorta points out above, trying to do too much in some songs, not enough in others. When their songs are pop-y, they're quite fun.

john. a resident of chicago., Saturday, 3 May 2008 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

i would listen to 'in the presence of nothing' before either mbv album any day of the week

electricsound, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

Eccsame The Photon Band is an excellent album.
That split with a Aspera Ad Astra is smart too.

Moving away from the MBVisms to the Kinks - I thought that 'Better Can't Make....' was wholly listenable for want of a less boring description.

I love me some Lilys. Talented geezer.

Fer Ark, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

They aren't all that great at it (which, given the setting, is what you saw at that Terrastock set you mention upthread?).

I honestly can't remember. We're talking six years ago now!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

Def. The Three Way, which is the most Zombie-like. "Socs Hip." I don't have that record anymore and can't find it anywhere.

Kate, Sunday, 4 May 2008 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I still listen to Zero Population Growth on occasion, but now I honestly can't remember much of their other albums.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Some of the through-composition on The 3-Way is ridiculously impressive; I think it let itself get written off as a pastiche record, but it had that great pastiche-record quality where having heavy inspiration lets you make something a million times more complex and ornate and ambitious than a lot of the stuff you're drawing on.

There's a song on Eccsame called "The Hermit Crab," which I listened to once on a listening station in 1996 or so. I didn't buy the record, but the song stuck with me enough that I spent years afterward trying to re-write it myself, a bit, from bad memory: I'd try and write a song something like this great song whose details I couldn't begin to remember. I dug the song up, recently, and it was a bit weird to listen to: every other hook, riff, or melody has some distorted misremembered cousin in songs I've written since then. (Even one three-word snippet of lyrics!) I suppose a decent amount of the original wound up embedded deep in my head, and kept coming out without my realizing it.

nabisco, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

There's an unreleased song that can be downloaded from the lilys' myspace page called "The right thing to do." It's odd, and not a greatest hit or anything. After downloading it, I notice that it's already labeled as track #10, and now I wonder just how many other unreleased tracks there are. Hmmmm.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

I can see Ned's complaints about their more-MBV sounding stuff. They aren't all that great at it

they were about as good at it as anyone else; consider the sliver of money they recorded that first album on and, sonically, how close it is to Loveless (and consider when it was recorded as well), that's impressive. Songwriting wise it doesn't match up but everything else is close enough in my book.

I still think Eccsame the Photon Band is better though

akm, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

i am hoping the mythical pas/cal album will end up in the place where i wish the lilys had ended up after 'the 3-way'. the first song from the pas/cal album is very lilys, well from that time period.

keythkeyth, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

what up bitches i still dig this can anybody recommend other 60s type ish with real memorable hooks that i can go live inside whenever i get tired of how fuckin b.s. rap in 09 is

and what, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:39 (ten years ago) link

lol this song always reminds me how i eff w/ these dudes

and what, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:41 (ten years ago) link

i heartily recommend outrageous cherry

Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 05:57 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

I guess I never paid enough attention to their "indie rock" album Brief History of Amazing Letdowns. Suddenly it sounds awfully good.

Someone was playing "Ginger" at a bakery that I went to the other day, and jesus it's great! I saw a movie not long ago (Keeping Up With The Steins) that has "Any Place I've Lived" over the closing credits. Took me a while to realize who it was. Their stealth album?

dlp9001, Sunday, 28 June 2009 19:51 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

Whoa I didn't realize somebody was talking about them so recently (relatively) on here. I found that album used in April or May and I love it. Its their most consistent of their early period (which I guess is easier since its their briefest) but yeah it hasn't aged one bit as far as I'm concerned.

Evan, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 04:53 (ten years ago) link

i am otm all over this thread

suzi cointreau (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 04:57 (ten years ago) link

Loves them Lilys.

'Better..' is a desert island record.

Why they never made it on that stupid Neu tribute disc is beyond me.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 11:04 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

People who like really big sounding songs should do themselves a favor and listen to "Eskimo" off of the Tone Bender EP.

Evan, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:23 (nine years ago) link

been listening to the 3-way a lot recently and loving it.

mizzell, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:41 (nine years ago) link

I tried that one, but I can't get behind it. Its not bad, but I just feel cheated by them cause its so opposite of the sound they had that I love. This problem would have been 90% solved if they just decided to go by a different band name when they went all Kinks-y.

Evan, Monday, 15 February 2010 14:45 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Eccsame the Photon Band is pure nostalgia for me.
It may not be their most unique or consistent record, but it always pleases me.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 16:59 (nine years ago) link

Is Day Of The Monkey on that one? I love that song.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Its so great, but whenever I try to play it for (most) people I know, they seem bored. As an album, not for pop fans.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:29 (nine years ago) link

Day of the Monkey is on that one and it was the song I was listening to when I wrote the post.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:33 (nine years ago) link

To my ears it's inconsistent in sound and almost a little too low-key in places but I really love that album. It gets better with repeated listening.

You Weaked It! (MaresNest), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:40 (nine years ago) link

Oh it also totally soundtracked my first sexual experience so that probably has something to do with my fondness for it.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:43 (nine years ago) link

Also I disagree with you Trip on the uniqueness. Definitely their most unique.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:49 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I guess that makes sense, too.
Such a schizo band.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:57 (nine years ago) link

so weird that the 3-Way gets so much hate. sure its pastiche, but that is some of the best-written pastiche ever. the arrangements are just INSANE, packed with so much detail, tons of bizarre changes and chords all held together by a seemingly endless supply of memorable hooks. I don't think its their best and I like all their incarnations, just felt this album needed defending.

mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 17:59 (nine years ago) link

yeah I completely agree

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:02 (nine years ago) link

also I saw this dude live a few months ago and it was quite possibly the worst show I've seen in a while

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:03 (nine years ago) link

i think the 3 way is my favorite. haven't been able to get into eccsame, but i just heard it for the first time in the last year or so, and i was into better and 3 way when they came out.

mizzell, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:16 (nine years ago) link

I don't hate the 3-Way, but I love the early stuff sooo much that 3-Way is a betrayal, regardless of its quality on its own.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:45 (nine years ago) link

band doesn't owe you anything FYI

mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Haha I know, I didn't mean it that way. I really just can't get enough of their earlier sound. Again I don't dislike the later stuff.

Evan, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 18:57 (nine years ago) link

funnily enough the only songs that worked live for me were one off of amazing letdowns

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:02 (nine years ago) link

ones

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:03 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

anyone have mp3s of the Which Studies The Past? 7" they'd like to share?

mizzell, Monday, 28 February 2011 21:40 (eight years ago) link

also interested in the better-era b-sides, touch the water and more than that is deserved

mizzell, Monday, 28 February 2011 21:43 (eight years ago) link

the 2nd of 'better' with the blue cover has those 2 b-sides on it, i'm sure that's probably hanging round the blogs somewhere

i did have the 'studies' mp3s but they were such a poor rip i deleted them, sorry... i need to rip my own copy but that will probably happen shortly after the loveless reissue comes out

haydens gonna hade (electricsound), Monday, 28 February 2011 21:46 (eight years ago) link

2nd issue of 'better'

haydens gonna hade (electricsound), Monday, 28 February 2011 21:46 (eight years ago) link

might be able to help you out, mizzy. let me take a peak when i get home. you have both versions of "better" too?

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:08 (eight years ago) link

I've been listening to 'Better' for years and it vexes me that I still don't know exactly why there are two versions, I even asked Kurt once.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:11 (eight years ago) link

isn't it plus orchestration or something? i don't think i've ever heard the second version of better. is it worth it iyo?

dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:13 (eight years ago) link

There's different tracks, additional instruments and production. You should check out both.

It's more the why than the what that has piqued me all these years.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:22 (eight years ago) link

oh ok, thanks

well there's that second version of precollection w/different production and extra songs...confusing

dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:24 (eight years ago) link

also what was his response when you asked him about it?

dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:25 (eight years ago) link

Ah well, it was in a very noisy club, I was DJ'ing/trying to concentrate and I was kinda drunk and he's so frigging tall and I was a bit overwhelmed really, so I can't really remember.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:14 (eight years ago) link

Okay, I have located my 4 CD copies of Lilys' Better Can't Make Your Life Better:
1) US edition #1 on Primary/Elektra (tracks #10-11 = The Sammael Sea/Returns Every Morning)
2) JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)
3) UK edition #2 on Che (remixed with strings, bassoon, bass harmonica, etc.), tracks #10-12 = Touch The Water*/Returns Every Morning/More Than That Is Deserved
*Apples In Stereo cover
4) JP edition #2 again on east/west Japan with bonus tracks which look like it is the Services For The Soon To Be Departed EP tacked on.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:08 (eight years ago) link

2) JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)

welp there's one for the wishlist

fat either way, of course (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:08 (eight years ago) link

cover arts:
1-2 have the pink/blue hand diamonds on peachy/yellow background
3-4 have the red/yellow hands on ocean blue back ground

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:09 (eight years ago) link

Would love to hear those tracks on the first two.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:10 (eight years ago) link

y'all want #2 then? I can U/L the full CD and then just the last 2 songs.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:55 (eight years ago) link

pls pls

fat either way, of course (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:58 (eight years ago) link

yes would like to hear those! had no idea this record was so complicated.

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 00:00 (eight years ago) link

me too, thanks!

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 09:33 (eight years ago) link

*uploading now*

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:29 (eight years ago) link

:D
i spent a good part of last night trying to find video of the time i saw these dudes play at no life records in 96 or 97? no luck, though i could swear that someone was filming.

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:32 (eight years ago) link

JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/odb00f90qag4nd9/Better%20Can%27t%20Make%20Your%20Life%20Better.zip

If you just want Which Studies The Past?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bslxwe8b8rpg29t/Which%20Studies%20The%20Past.zip

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:33 (eight years ago) link

I think in 97 his backing band was The Beachwood Sparks en totale so that would make sense. Aaron from KXLU/Aron's/NoLife was his drummer for a while there.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:34 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah --- i think that was before i knew who beachwood sparks were...

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:35 (eight years ago) link

Listening to this for the first time in a long time "Who Is Moving?" is really ace.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:40 (eight years ago) link

love this band

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:41 (eight years ago) link

steve, can you put the uk version up too? thanks for this!

mizzell, Thursday, 3 March 2011 00:42 (eight years ago) link

at your request.

*U/Ling now*

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:36 (eight years ago) link

fuck i love the way 'welfare...' is mixed

some velveeta morning (electricsound), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:41 (eight years ago) link

Wow, never thought I'd hear a CD sourced Which Studies The Past. Very cool, thank you!

dlp9001, Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:41 (eight years ago) link

So I guess the way Kurt wanted them labeled is 1996 version vs. 1998 version.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:47 (eight years ago) link

A-B "Returns Every Morning" just the drums... pretty nuts.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:48 (eight years ago) link

what i can pick up: oboe, bass sax, bass harmonica, cello (quartet?), drums to the FRONT, tambourine, a little more crunch out of the rhythm guitar.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:55 (eight years ago) link

"welfare"'s opening organ/bass riff sounds like an homage to "it's so hard to fall in love" eh?

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 03:00 (eight years ago) link

"Paz En El Hogar" sounds radically different as well... the 98 version cut by a minute or so.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 03:14 (eight years ago) link

So, are there any weird-ass japanese versions of Precollection/The Lilys?

dlp9001, Thursday, 3 March 2011 03:49 (eight years ago) link

Doubtful, seems like only major label stuff or certifiable indie hits got Japanese bonus track treatment.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 03:53 (eight years ago) link

thx steve, you da man

tylerw, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:43 (eight years ago) link

Yep, thank you Steve!

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:44 (eight years ago) link

Awesome. I wish there was more rarities from their early to mid nineties days, too.

Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:47 (eight years ago) link

There was a whole instrumental demos bootleg called "Send In The Subs" that was post-Eccsame I want to say?

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:29 (eight years ago) link

thx shasta!

ridiculous, uncalled for slap (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:33 (eight years ago) link

Is that bootleg in the same vein as Eccsame?

Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:44 (eight years ago) link

I think it was bridging from Eccsame to A Brief History... I had it once (digitally) and now can't find it at all... it's on ebay japan though funnily enough.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:50 (eight years ago) link

err it was on ebay japan, last year.

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:53 (eight years ago) link

It has to be on the filesharing networks, it's 14 tracks over 62min, "released" around 1998 iirc?

A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:55 (eight years ago) link

Never heard this Welfare/Baby single before, awesome!

Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:52 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Thanks so much for these!

Evan, Sunday, 12 August 2012 18:37 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3tHAGrhmls&feature=related

Evan, Monday, 13 August 2012 04:35 (seven years ago) link

^^I can't ask for much more than an acoustic version of Claire Hates Me ^^

Evan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:40 (seven years ago) link

i dug it, but would have liked him to sing out more

on a scale of 1 to Rhonda how hot are you today? (electricsound), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:47 (seven years ago) link

I know styles have changed but there is something so refreshing about seeing such average looking joes playing shoegaze in that 1994 show. I grew up in a rural suburban town so I relate to guys that look like they could be in any old cover band on the outside, but are into messy music like stuff identified as lo-fi or american brand shoegaze.

Evan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:55 (seven years ago) link

Yeah he sounds a bit shy, I agree.

Shoegaze is my favorite genre to strip down in that way, since the melody is already so buried normally, but the progressions tend to be really wistful and bittersweet so it just sounds gorgeous.

Evan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:59 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

So just saw the full band Lilys set at Chickfactor last night.

Very magical for me. Set list:

Claire Hates Me
Ginger
Any Place I've Lived
Dandy
Can't Make Your Life Better
Baby's a Dealer
Black Carpet Magic
High Writer At Home
February Fourteenth

Evan, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 15:30 (six years ago) link

Oh jeez, High Writer, I love that song

MaresNest, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:00 (six years ago) link

Yeah, it was an interesting choice! But I love it as well. I'd have melted if they played Radioitricity but I can't complain.

Evan, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:22 (six years ago) link

I would have too!

MaresNest, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:33 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

I was listening to Eccsame the Photon Band again (I've never stopped) this time really loud. It really hasn't aged at all. It could have come out yesterday. I was thinking of giving it a C or D thread just to see if anyone also felt that it was really special or at least very unique. Thoughts?

Evan, Friday, 26 September 2014 20:11 (five years ago) link

Oh, I meant to comment that it really sucks you into its world when played loud. Otherwise it's easier to take the quiet and/or slower parts as a lull in the record.

Evan, Friday, 26 September 2014 20:13 (five years ago) link

Haven't listened to it in years but I liked it a lot. Has all that old stuff been reissued yet? I've only got three of their albums.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 27 September 2014 09:51 (five years ago) link

I'm still with ya Evan
Great album from more often than not, excellent band

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Saturday, 27 September 2014 10:51 (five years ago) link

Nothing has been reissued. According to Kurt there's problems with rights regarding the defunct Spin Art label. That album in particular I'm certain if reissued would bring upon all sorts of forgotten-classic-praise in write ups given again how unique it is and how well it's aged.

Evan, Saturday, 27 September 2014 13:28 (five years ago) link

That's a shame. I have pirate mp3 versions of Eccsame The Photon Band and In The Presence Of Nothing because the second hand discs were crazily expensive at the time and are probably worse now.
A good lot of that classic shoegazing stuff has been reissued so I assumed they would be too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:31 (five years ago) link

Actually the two albums are 30pounds on amazon, Brief History Of Amazing Letdowns is a bit less expensive and most others are very affordable.

No single/ep collections it seems? I always heard that Tone Bender was amazing but it's getting rare.

What about the related bands like Photon Band or Black Tambourine? Which are the most relevant to Lilys fans?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:57 (five years ago) link

Love eccsame the photon band

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 27 September 2014 18:33 (five years ago) link

Photon Band (the band) had some great material! Only really relevant due to the shared members.

And I agree they're a much more exciting reissue than most of the 90s bands that've been getting it lately.

Evan, Sunday, 28 September 2014 05:19 (five years ago) link

Vinyl reissue please!!!

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 September 2014 05:23 (five years ago) link

Should have said "reissue prospect". Don't want to confuse anyone looking at the bottom of the thread first. Hoping it'll finally happen someday.

Evan, Sunday, 28 September 2014 14:15 (five years ago) link

I have a spare CD copy of In the Presence of Nothing (Slumberland).
Any interest or guidance of best places where to sell?
*Places tin hat on

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 28 September 2014 15:16 (five years ago) link

Heh- well you can sell it for $30+ on amazon or ebay most likely. Otherwise a record store will buy it from you for $4-$8 so they can then go and do the same (from experience as a former buyer at a record store- we had an amazon store).

Evan, Sunday, 28 September 2014 15:53 (five years ago) link

Thanks for your advice Evan. May try Amazon. I have a load of stuff to shift. Hopefully...

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:12 (five years ago) link

You're welcome! Another point on Amazon- try to price competitively with other entries of the same condition. What I mean is if you feel your copy qualifies as "very good" vs "like new" price it below the lowest very good listing but not higher than any like new listing (in case this isn't already obvious to you). Helps move your items quick but for the most money you should expect per disc!

Evan, Monday, 29 September 2014 00:57 (five years ago) link

Oh, I forgot to mention discogs.com as well. That could be a good route too I just don't have experience selling there (only buying).

Evan, Monday, 29 September 2014 00:59 (five years ago) link

Much appreciated Evan
apols to you and all for clogging this one up a touch

Paul

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Monday, 29 September 2014 07:46 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Nooooooooo! A guy started making a documentary about Kurt back in 2007 but he sadly took his own life and the footage is lost. Man, I'd love to see the rest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KkfWuPIe3U

MaresNest, Sunday, 2 November 2014 11:10 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I talked to Kurt about this- he said he wanted it to get finished but personally I don't have a ton of faith that he will make it happen.

Evan, Sunday, 2 November 2014 14:01 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/odb00f90qag4nd9/Better%20Can%27t%20Make%20Your%20Life%20Better.zip

If you just want Which Studies The Past?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bslxwe8b8rpg29t/Which%20Studies%20The%20Past.zip

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, March 2, 2011 3:33 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Any chance for a re-up? I lost these files...

Evan, Saturday, 2 April 2016 02:46 (three years ago) link

I still have about half of Send In The Subs as 128kb Mp3s, can't bear to listen to them, *sigh*

MaresNest, Saturday, 2 April 2016 08:56 (three years ago) link

Why's that?

Evan, Saturday, 2 April 2016 11:17 (three years ago) link

I found it on S**lseek then the guy quite halfway through and I've never been able to find it again in decent quality.

MaresNest, Saturday, 2 April 2016 11:32 (three years ago) link

Evan/Mares I put some of these on dropbox.

Send in the Subs I've only even seen as 128 but this has all 14 tracks: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6s4mrktqeh74t4e/AAB48eIvDfrPFi3ajDCc1rRta?dl=0
1998 remix of Better: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kqjoo87rs6fo9m1/AABBUmCGicf6gxxbz5W50Y8ka?dl=0
and the Which Studies single (i think this may be shasta's?): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6ocsrtwhfg3s85m/AAAjNmAHWgc5mKTbkmjH-85Ea?dl=0

city worker, Saturday, 2 April 2016 12:46 (three years ago) link

Hey! That's very kind, thanks so much city worker!

MaresNest, Saturday, 2 April 2016 13:31 (three years ago) link

Yes, thank you! Sitting at the DMV right now so you've made my morning better.

Evan, Saturday, 2 April 2016 14:36 (three years ago) link

I hope I'm doing this right. Here's the other hard-to-find Lilys thing (at least in the US): their self-titled album, which is a remix of Precollection with the addition of several new songs. It's actually my favorite thing they've done.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/71f20et5zbsh438/AADBps42CpyVxJ6yOkRryRTUa?dl=0

dlp9001, Monday, 4 April 2016 23:21 (three years ago) link

It's great! Hung out with a guy who did some drumming on that version, so I got a copy from him naturally!

Evan, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 04:45 (three years ago) link

OK the 1998 remix sounds like "George Lucas presents Lilys - Better Can't Make Your Life Better SPECIAL EDITION" given the way new sounds and flourishes are jammed into every corner of most of these songs.

Still like it a lot though, just kind of funny after having known the other version so well for so long without ever having gotten around to this one.

Evan, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 19:01 (three years ago) link

I've always been a bit confused, just to get this straight, the original version of Better has a false start on 'Nanny..' right?

MaresNest, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 21:12 (three years ago) link

thanks for the uploads!
"here i go out the door of my apartment before I miss my train and there's no way that is happening"

calstars, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 21:26 (three years ago) link

Well, there's a little guitar intro in the beginning on the original version if that's what you mean.

xp

Evan, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:54 (three years ago) link

Just realized I've never heard "Glosseder" (I don't think I have, at least) which appears to only be on the vinyl version of A Brief History Of Amazing Letdowns... can anyone provide some info or an upload of that track even? If it exists digitally at all.

Evan, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:58 (three years ago) link

"Welfare Murder Plot" reminds me of Lansing-Dreiden

calstars, Thursday, 7 April 2016 01:44 (three years ago) link

bump. dying to hear "Glosseder". Still can't remember if I've ever investigated this track before.

Evan, Thursday, 7 April 2016 15:30 (three years ago) link

Prob shouldn't share dropbox links publicly so PM-ed you Evan re: Glosseder.

city worker, Saturday, 9 April 2016 11:44 (three years ago) link

Thanks so much!

Evan, Saturday, 9 April 2016 12:28 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I thought this may appeal to some of you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCX-xhFlSl4

MaresNest, Monday, 9 May 2016 20:12 (three years ago) link

Why's that?

Man I haven't listened to Bob Drake in like 8 years.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 20:15 (three years ago) link

I thought it had a flavour of Lilys in there

MaresNest, Monday, 9 May 2016 21:49 (three years ago) link

Oh, I agree! Ok, just making sure there wasn't more to it. I mean, there is a guy named Kurt involved.

Evan, Monday, 9 May 2016 22:39 (three years ago) link

BD could make an absolutely killer '66 era pop psyche album with one hand tied behind his back, his voice alone is custom built for those summery harmonies.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 07:23 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Was this oral history of post-shoegaze Lilys ever posted here?

http://magnetmagazine.com/2017/07/03/magnet-classics-the-making-of-the-lilys-the-3-way/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

New to me! Thanks for sharing

Evan, Thursday, 10 January 2019 18:07 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

I suppose my holy grail would be the Lilys 'Send in the Subs' CD-R, I can barely get a decent quality rip of it never mind an actual hard copy.

― MaresNest, Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:39 AM (two weeks ago)

I lost my copy! Wish I could help you out...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 16:59 (nine months ago) link

city worker hooked us up in 2016 but not sure if the quality was good enough for Mares

Evan, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 17:03 (nine months ago) link

Thank you both! I would love a higher quality rip than 128kbps, the search goes on! Maybe I should try and ask Kurt :)

MaresNest, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 17:25 (nine months ago) link

He's pretty active on twitter...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 22:49 (nine months ago) link

Thank you both! I would love a higher quality rip than 128kbps, the search goes on! Maybe I should try and ask Kurt :)

320kbps rip on slsk right now.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 February 2019 01:16 (nine months ago) link

YSI?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 28 February 2019 04:04 (nine months ago) link

I did a search on slsk yesterday and have just done one now with no results, whoever they are we don't keep the same hours I guess :)

MaresNest, Thursday, 28 February 2019 10:50 (nine months ago) link

there's a user now ("f**d*ngb*ck") who has most of it in 192

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:18 (nine months ago) link

Not seeing it... :-( Hopefully MaresNest can find it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:37 (nine months ago) link

seven months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/ubQgRrF.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 19 October 2019 06:38 (one month ago) link

Grunge album coming soon?

I did eventually track down Send in The Subs in 192kbps, still hoping for a copy of it, I also grabbed a great VPRO session from that same person.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 19 October 2019 20:12 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuqlLpXJyag

verse melody was knicked for "leo ryan"? and maybe another track?

trying to figure out how involved KH is with Lodge 49... seems kinda deep but maybe some contractual shit is keeping him incognito.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 28 October 2019 20:29 (one month ago) link

xpost

noooooooooooo...

Yerac, Monday, 28 October 2019 20:54 (one month ago) link

the only time I saw them live was in '99? when Delta 72, Olivia Tremor Control and Elf Power were also on the bill (macrock).

Yerac, Monday, 28 October 2019 20:57 (one month ago) link

That was a good era... maybe the peak.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 28 October 2019 21:03 (one month ago) link

I dunno, that recently unbraided hair seems peak.

Yerac, Monday, 28 October 2019 21:05 (one month ago) link

I appreciate his two sizes of tamis (tamises?) on the wall.

Yerac, Monday, 28 October 2019 21:09 (one month ago) link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l84s3v4wzsy5eb5/Lilys%20-%20Miscellaneous%20Rarities%20HQ%20MP3.zip?dl=0

Lilys - Send In The Subs vol. 2

Right Thing to Do (prev. unrel.)
Dreams Never End (New Order cover)
Coby (backing track, no vocal)
Excelsior Plainside (prev. unrel.)
Any Several Sundays (early unrel. version)
Hark, The Open Energy Channel Is Icy Water, Water Everywhere (B-side)
Baby's a Dealer (radio session version)
Touch the Water (prev. unrel. 45 version)
Any Several Sundays (Station Tapes version)
Baby's a Dealer (B-side version)
Welfare Murder Plot (B-side)
Overlit Canyon - Live 2016-07-03 - performed by Kurt Heasley (Lilys frontman) in celebration of the life of Thomas Fekete

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:32 (one month ago) link

(Mares, can you reup vol 1 pls?)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:33 (one month ago) link

Holy crap gotta get on the computer and download that!

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 01:07 (one month ago) link

XP - Thanks so much Albert R!

Here is a link to Vol.1, I threw the Dutch VPRO Radio Session in also.

VPRO Session, 08/11/96

Touch The Water
Who Is Moving
Paz En El Hogar
A Nanny In Manhattan (take one)
A Nanny In Manhattan (take two)
A Nanny In Manhattan (take three)
Better Can't Make Your Life Better
Ginger
Shovel Into Spade Kit
Cambridge California (take one)
Cambridge California (take two)
Elevator Is Temporary
Baby's A Dealer

https://fromsmash.com/fZcmEnYnYk-c0

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 November 2019 14:34 (one month ago) link

<3

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2019 14:44 (one month ago) link

Hey Albert looks like

Hark, The Open Energy Channel Is Icy Water, Water Everywhere (B-side)

wasn't in the link

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:23 (one month ago) link

Damn... I'll see if I can rescrape it.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2019 17:30 (one month ago) link

That track and the others from the Services For The Soon To Be Departed EP are so damn great.

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:53 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I verified run-times it's the same track as the lead track on Services. Which I have... somewhere lol

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2019 18:47 (one month ago) link

iirc they just bunged the whole EP, or most of it, on the CD Single for Nanny (in the UK at least)

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:58 (one month ago) link

Well, I was wrong, it was just the first three tracks

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:59 (one month ago) link

Really want the mystery tracks in this performance identified (don't have the time to comb through again at the moment to identify any timestamps):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGBX75Z3Ubo

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:03 (one month ago) link

In The Presence Of Nothing promo photos, DC 1992

https://i.imgur.com/qCoGZhL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MsOXC0k.jpg

Mike Hammel (The Ropers), Archie Moore (Velocity Girl), KH

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2019 19:16 (one month ago) link

Overlit Canyon - Live 2016-07-03

It's funny to hear him sing the songs of this era with that weird british/stoner surfer accent he sort of fell into since then.

Radiotricity 2016: "Oiyce Cahps Male-ting!"

Evan, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:28 (one month ago) link

Thanks again for the uploads, these early tracks are making me really nostaglic for Eccsame era stuff: "The Turtle Which..." etc.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:50 (one month ago) link

Man, Eccsame is such an amazing record, it's just so low key that it's almost designed to be passed over, but if you spend a bit of time with it, it'll bury itself deep into you.

Maresn3st, Friday, 8 November 2019 08:32 (one month ago) link

Maybe I've been losing my shit over no one, for some time.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 10 November 2019 06:44 (one month ago) link

It's weird how markedly different those first...idk five? albums are, like five different bands.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 10 November 2019 11:33 (one month ago) link

YES!

good citizens will receive https://t.co/kkNIKMCyLi

— LILYS THE LILYS (@theLILYS) November 11, 2019

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Monday, 11 November 2019 21:29 (one month ago) link

Maresnest can you please re-up the VPRO link? Looks like I forgot to click...

Also wondering if Albert was ever able to track down the missing file for Hark, The Open Energy Channel Is Icy Water, Water Everywhere (B-side)?

Evan, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:53 (one month ago) link

It is not a rarity per se, it's just the first track of Services For The Soon To Be Departed tacked on as a b-side to an import single.

That said, I do "own" it. Where it is, or my impending access to such is a big question.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:34 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J68mSrE9CmE

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:35 (one month ago) link

No worries Evan, do you have the 'Services...' EP? I can include that also.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:39 (one month ago) link

It is amazing actually, every bit as great as BCMYLB

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:40 (one month ago) link

When I say "the first track" it's like the first 3 tracks of the EP which are seamless. It's a little more free/frenetic than BCMYLB imho.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:42 (one month ago) link

Thanks! And I do have Services so no worries there! I figured the "b-side" version would have been a little different.

Evan, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:46 (one month ago) link

It was tacked on as a b-side to the "Nanny" 1998 re-release as that EP didn't get UK distro.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:49 (one month ago) link

Here 'tis - https://fromsmash.com/yM4a4N.Yyg-c0

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:37 (one month ago) link

thanks you're the best!

Evan, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:44 (one month ago) link

wait that is not the Services EP

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:50 (one month ago) link

guess I should've read up a few posts lol, n/m

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:53 (one month ago) link

Lol, I can upload that too if you like?

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:14 (one month ago) link

ooh yes plz

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:17 (one month ago) link

Here y'go - https://fromsmash.com/NXGJsUgsK5-c0

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:23 (one month ago) link

thx yr the best

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 18:24 (one month ago) link

That 1992 "Station Tapes" version of TASS is incredible via headphones, amazing that he felt that version was not up to snuff!

Though I do love the 1998 version as well.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:18 (three weeks ago) link


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