MBV Comeback.

it was never likely.

however, according to a "source", kevin does indeed have the masters to all the released material (including the pre-Creation stuff)..

..so, i guess that means Weiland will be at Coachella in some form.

"We are 100 percent going to make another My Bloody Valentine record unless we die or something."

but NME are running the story as well, so it's true! :

http://www.nme.com/news/my-bloody-valentine/25821

Of course, that could happen at any time within the next 60 years!

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/04/my_bloody_valen_4.html

They never will let a new promo photo surface, I'm positive.

"Currently, only one show is confirmed: a headlining slot at the soon-to-be-announced All Tomorrow's Parties Festival in upstate New York the weekend of September 20-21."

ATP in...upstate New York? But I LIVE in upstate New York! 2008 is looking up!

Saratoga? Great Falls?

Bethel Woods? Plattsburgh?

(great falls?)

Troy?

Buffalo

they're opening for Ani

We've all been waiting for the MBV-Utah Phillips collaboration

Hopefully they hit the Great Sacandaga Lakes ... the fall tourist season is hott up there!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letchworth_State_Park

Hopefully, it's the NY State Fairgrounds in beautiful Solvay.

Letchworth is a great park. But all jokes aside, upstate probably means somewhere along the Hudson and/or in the Catskills.

yeah, I was gonna say fairgrounds. It's not Bethel Woods - Martina McBride's there on Sunday.

When I was a kid I new all the secret ways to get into the fair for free. Maybe all those holes in the fence are still there!

ski resort?

How about 1,000 Islands? (I could do this all night.)

MBV, Low, Drones, Perfect From Now On...I hate everyone that gets to go to this.

!!!!

Jesus Christ but the indie/alternative kids really are becoming the "I want to hear the classic music of my youth 'cause it was the best music" generation without making any bones about it, eh?

I thought this was going to be some hostile anti-Ned javascript.

Yeah the whole-album-in-concert thing is getting a little ridiculous, but with a lineup like that, who gives a fuck? Does anyone know how much tickets to this thing are likely to cost. The ATP site doesn't have any info on that as of yet.

I don't think I really care about any of the other bands, and with Colm supposedly out, my excitement is tempered.

$225 just for tickets, more for accommodations25 just for tickets, more for accommodations

that didn't work right, oh well

I'll believe MBV is playing somewhere when I freaking see it. And does anyone really give a shit about Polvo any more? You mean they couldn't get the Swirlies?

WAHT ABOUT ROLLERSKATE SKINNY

Lineup looks pretty boring - and essentially $400/person for ticket+room is way too expensive.

that lineup looks great ...where did they say colm was out?

no colm = waste of time

I heard that from a little birdie, but it's not confirmed one way or the other.

Damn, $225 is about $175 over the price where I could still convince my girlfriend to go with me/give me a ride. Maybe I can catch them some other time...17 years later. FUCK

ok, so let me get this straight. the band i've dreamed about seeing live all these years are playing a sweet ass festival, about an hour from where i live. and tickets are fucking $400 (including room). yeah, that seems about right.

Fuck it. I'm going to drop the loot. I know it's steep/ridiculous/highway robbery, but I just can't pass up this line-up, especially the MBV factor (full disclosure: I had a ticket to see them in 1992, but I was in 9th grade and the concert was on a school night & the rants dropped the kibosh on my legendary status as the only person in my generation to have been to a My Bloody Valentine concert). But sersiously: add in the BTS, Tortoise, Shellac, Mogwai and Low and my inner teenage indie rockist is doubling over with multiple orgasms. If I'm going to have a premature mid-life crisis and attempt to re-live my youth, at least this will be a lot less expensive than a Camaro.

Jesus Christ but the indie/alternative kids really are becoming the "I want to hear the classic music of my youth 'cause it was the best music" generation without making any bones about it, eh?

He's right you know.

The mention of Rollerskate Skinny and The Swirlies above made me daydream of a Rocklahoma-esque three-day jamboree of every shoegaze/noise pop/space rock group from the early-to-mid '90s. Maybe next decade..

Probably no Bostrom in the Puppets line-up either. I'll pass on this thanks.

Jesus Christ but the indie/alternative kids really are becoming the "I want to hear the classic music of my youth 'cause it was the best music" generation without making any bones about it, eh?

Which generation HASN'T done this?

They don't state explicitly that there will be no camping or single-day tickets (maybe there never are for ATP - I wouldn't know). They do say that 'limited' accommodation is available - are there really rooms for 3000 at that place? Seems unlikely under ordinary circumstances, but they may be stretching things.

With 6-8 US city shows, LA people have nothing to worry about. I'm assuming there will be an NYC shpw or one accessible at less cost than ATP, but it would be nice if they didn't play footsy with people about it.

Bilinda really is the girl with faraway eyes, isn't she?

colm is mos def in.

I'll believe MBV is playing somewhere when I freaking see it. And does anyone really give a shit about Polvo any more? You mean they couldn't get the Swirlies?

haha the Polvo show in Chapel Hill sold out on presales a month in advance

Which generation HASN'T done this?

I guess, but the people getting excited to go see a bunch of people who haven't made any new music in ages come from the generation who Nelson Muntzed at oldsters going to see Clapton drag Layla out of the grave for the millionth time - for me, I don't care how good the band doin' the "here's the great music we made when we all were young!" was: if they're not making new music, it's sad & pernicious nostalgia

the new music often sucks though. why not just play what was good? this is what made the pixies shows so effective. yes it was a nostalgia trip, but they played that stuff better now than they did then.

anyway I'm looking forward to the Sweden Don't Look Back shows

John OTFM. Fuck a Smashing Pumpkins

That being said, I'm flying to London to see Public Enemy do Nation Of Millions, so I'm as guilty as anyone, I guess.

who says they're not making new music?

But the show is about an old record.

not to dissuadeyou from making me feel better about myself.

the first single off the last P.E. album was wonderful and totally slept on

the generation who Nelson Muntzed at oldsters going to see Clapton drag Layla out of the grave for the millionth time

Also pathetic because the generation immediately proceeding MBV, Meat Puppets, Pixes et al. is still producing interesting-to-amazing new stuff. A line-up of The Fall, Bad Seeds, Pere Ubu, Mission of Burma and Wire could get by on their aughts material.

That ATP lineup is fucking snoresville.

Uh, every generation does that too. Punks mocked the teddy boys for 50s R&R nostalgia, now all the old punk bands are playing again. SFW.

Snoresville is on the other side of the Catskills

Also pathetic because the generation immediately proceeding MBV, Meat Puppets, Pixes et al. is still producing interesting-to-amazing new stuff. A line-up of The Fall, Bad Seeds, Pere Ubu, Mission of Burma and Wire could get by on their aughts material.

yeah cosign with this esp. in re: Burma, those guys live now are a lesson in how to reunite without working the nostalgia side of the street

[the pixies] played that stuff better now than they did then

uh, no.

haha the Polvo show in Chapel Hill sold out on presales a month in advance

I was about to say that's really crazy, but I guess it's not really crazy in NC. Still, I find it hard to believe that there's a huge pent-up nostalgic demand to see Polvo in the public at large. Or at least, I would if Polvo wasn't one of the touchstones one of my friends was raving about when he saw the lineup.

I'm constantly vigilant about exactly what you're talking about above -- I hate JackFM and the whole "we'll play nothing but that awesome shit you grew up with 24 fucking 7" so this lineup (especially considering the really good chance that MBV is going to pull a baileroo) is only marginally more appealing to me than sitting at home and pulling out albums by Velocity Girl, Chapterhouse and the 24-7 Spyz. I mean, yeah, it would probably be a great concert but I'm not THERE any more.

xp old bands playing new stuff: sign me up for that if it's good, like MoB. But the new Meat Puppets stuff has been kinda meh.

I'm not THERE any more

And for me, there is 1998 at KUCI and looking at a lot of the playlists, based on this lineup. More than anything else I'm depressed by it. It's incredibly unadventurous.

do we know that more won't be announced?

yeah Nu Shooz and Glass Tiger are both gonna recreate the magic of their live albums

ok I'll stop now

Glass Tiger? Crap, now I gotta go to show my national prize. CURSE YOU JOHN.

Don't forget them when they're gone

My heart would break.

the four bands/peoples playing old album material have all put out new material recently. i would love to hear tortoise play 'djed' live

http://www.lizardtree.com/images/0701/hippyfireworks.jpg

i would love to hear tortoise play 'djed' live

:P

yeah big fuckin' deal if ppl wanna see some bands do some records they like.

i dunno, this idea that these fuckin' festivals are so goddamned important and need to show us the blinding crazy future of music seems stupider and more pernicious than nostalgia. nostalgia revolves around trying to have fun and enjoy something. handicapping festival lineups and shit and saying that some dumb rock show isn't doing it's TERRIBLY CRUCIAL JOB OF ESTABLISHING WHAT IS AND ISN'T THIS FICTIONAL IDEA OF THE VANGUARD seems more boring to me than anything.

dudes will probably go and have fun. if i were in the area or had more $$ i'd totally think about going. drink some overpriced beer and see some bands. i had a hella good time seeing joan jett at ribfest one year. i'd probably get crunk seeing built to spill do their best album if after a couple of MGDs.

grilling brats during MBV's reunion would be a pretty crewsh idea too.

izzat that you, whiney? you look excited

lol izzat that

i dunno, this idea that these fuckin' festivals are so goddamned important and need to show us the blinding crazy future of music seems stupider and more pernicious than nostalgia.

I don't want to argue this too much because I see your point, but the lineup for this really seems like the equivalent of a festival that features nothing but acts like Whitesnake, Poison, Steelheart, Cinderella and Dokken. Anything wrong with it? Probably not. Are we in danger of becoming our parents waving our fists in the air complaining about how much better music was in the 90s? Maybe.

Just to be clear: I'm not accusing anyone here of being that person waving their fists in the air, because I know ILX folks seem generally pretty engaged in what's going on today as well as what's happened in the past. But this lineup really seems calculated to appeal to a new generation of codgers.

But every musical subculture with any sort of longevity turns into a codger-producing factory -- either the standard bearers become hyper-vocal sticks in the mud, or the historians / canonizers beat the same old drum, or those that come later & sift through the rubble hold up their placards & dig in their heels.

OMG YOU'RE ONE OF *THEM*!!!

http://www.filminamerica.com/Movies/InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers1978/invasion23.jpg

Only by expelling the intruder can we properly enjoy Fuck Buttons oh wait.

(xpost geez Ned lay off the SUBMIT button)

You're Keith David. I'm Roddy Piper. Let's get it on.

What's your dream lineup for an MBV reunion festival?

MBV
Broadcast
Swervedriver
New Order
Husker Du
Josef K
Jesus Lizard
bIG fLAME
Minutemen
Birthday Party
Wire
Alan McGee dunking booth

(AKA fuck if I know)

Oh shit -- forgot about Scrawl, Small Factory, and Miles Davis peforming Kind of Blue for the token non-rock spot.

C'mon man, are you forgetting Tsunami and Mr. Mirainga?

sean i hear what you're saying.

it sucks that the years keep going by and by and all the cool new stuff becomes stale old stuff.

but personally, this is more just me, it's like the internet has kinda got me tired of the future. like it just seems like there is always good bands and bad bands, and it'll all sort itself out...i don't really see the idea of movements or revolutions or whatever as being that relevant anymore. it's just random ppl making stuff and some of it sticks and some of it doesn't....one day i might want to listen to black mountain or another day i might want to listen to buddy holly or guilty simpson or whatever.

everyone likes to think about the olden tymes. whether that meant you rocked tied dies and flares or mohawks or charlie brown t-shirts and converse. and why not? if the music was good and you want to see it again, that seems just as relevant anymore as like checking out be your own pet or lil wayne.

ok, the Rock Festival Hero video game is becoming less of a joke and really needs to happen.

it will use the much touted BOON-GA BOON-GA game engine.

Have you heard of Mr. Mirainga yet? If you havn't, you soon will. Slowly but surely, Mr. Mirainga is creeping into American homes. Mr. Mirainga (Mer-aine-gay) made their stunning debut with an EP titled Fuck The Scene. Now out comes their debut self-titled album, and it's already turning people's heads. The song "Burnin' Rubber" is on the Ace Ventura 2: When Nature Calls. This song burned its way straight up Billboard's Modern Rock Tracks. And now with the Adam Sandler-meets-Rancid single "Baglady", Mr Mirainga will be around a while.

Some of their favorite bands are the Sex Pistols, Black Flag, and The Clash. These punkish influences show up in songs like "57 South" and "Waterdog". Keeping with the punk tradition, only 5 of the 15 songs are above three and half minutes.

Then again, these guys aren't from the New York punk scene. According to bassist Hedge, "We're not part of any scene in particular. We are an Arizona band." Being so close to Mexico, some of those mamba-samba sounds have seeped into Mr. Mirainga's music - such as the wonderfully Latin "Saguarro's Cryin'", and sometimes even fusing the two as in the song "Jalopeno Eyes" - pronounced as it looks, not as pronounced in Spanish.

A little pop-punk, a little bit salsa and that's Mr. Mirainga. They're on tour with God Lives Underwater - a show not to be missed.

NB: I resisted listing Tsunami for reals because of my shamless Simple-Machines-fanboy past.

Adam Sandler-meets-Rancid

Punky Gilmore

but personally, this is more just me, it's like the internet has kinda got me tired of the future. like it just seems like there is always good bands and bad bands, and it'll all sort itself out...i don't really see the idea of movements or revolutions or whatever as being that relevant anymore. it's just random ppl making stuff and some of it sticks and some of it doesn't....one day i might want to listen to black mountain or another day i might want to listen to buddy holly or guilty simpson or whatever.

you M don't misread me, I agree with what you're saying here - I am totally in favor of old bands still working, and I don't say they have to be always innovating. (It'd be pretty ripe for me to be the guy demanding that bands always be branching out, right?) But it's this revivalism that icks me out - like, if, I don't know, MBV doing Loveless turned out to be Shields playing all the songs on a Fender Rhodes and singing the words clearly, that'd be interesting and different. But "great bands performing their classic albums" - when the bands and albums in question were iconoclastic signal moments whose very motivations, in some cases, were the tearing down of dwelling-in-the-past modes of thinking - well, y'know, it's like I'm sure that last Sex Pistols tour was a fine rockin' time, but how sad for it to have come to that. You know? It's not that I ONLY want CONVULSIVE! INNOVATION! - fuck dude I listen to death metal, that shit has been stagnant for ages and I like it that way - but (and I say this as an old dude!) once you start making a point of reliving the past, it's just strikes me as really conservative.

xpost Ned every time I post I'm xposting with you

Slow day at work, active MBV thread...

LOL

I'd pay $12 to see The Mountain Goats (w/ Rachel!) perform... Sweden.

^^^^ wipeout

your $12 are safe, when we played together last year we made a point of learning new stuff together - fuck memory lane

I've been trying to put together a more cohesive reaction to this all beyond all the uselessness I've said so far on this thread, but John's mostly capturing where I'm coming from. Still, I'm of two minds about the play-albums-through thing but only because I think there can be exceptions to the rule -- I wouldn't mind seeing that whole Sparks deal going down in a few weeks, for instance, though at the same time they've made a point of touring their latest album each time that way and will be doing the same again with the newest one once everything's wrapped up in London, in otherwards fully putting the focus ON the new stuff as much as possible, however much they rely on certain standards in the rest of their sets.

As I semi-muttered above, really it's just something about the whole idea that this is where the sense of legacy has ended up, to a large but not complete extent (somehow I can't imagine Albini being a huge MBV fan but I could be missing something). And if Kevin Shields made the final decision on who played...I dunno, it's just that here was the guy who was talking about Public Enemy as the wave of the future in 1988 and raving on about jungle tracks back in 1993 and so forth.

You played together again?!?!?!?! No way. Any recordings out there?

I dunno, it's just that here was the guy who was talking about Public Enemy as the wave of the future in 1988 and raving on about jungle tracks back in 1993 and so forth.

you did hear the Lost In Translation soundtrack?

Of course. I should have known then!

More artists should be like Fela: play a song live for awhile, record it, then never play it again.

Watching a band play its classic album from beginning to end sounds like such a prefab experience.

like it just seems like there is always good bands and bad bands, and it'll all sort itself out...i don't really see the idea of movements or revolutions or whatever as being that relevant anymore. it's just random ppl making stuff and some of it sticks and some of it doesn't.

this is pretty much how I feel. as such I don't really have a desire to see MBV perform a single album, or anyone perform a single album in its entirety (sounds kinda boring and predictable). I will probably shell out for the Zep reunion tour though.

but yeah the idea that music was IMPORTANT because it SIGNALLED THE FUTURE or something and that makes it worth listening to... ah who gives a shit.

I've heard that Kev The Shields has released a new 'sus 4 add nine chord'?

He has been working on it for just the last 12 years and nine have died.

re: prefab experience:
I saw a Daydream Nation show and I was worried about that at the time, and yes, there was some immediacy taken away from the proceedings, where you felt like you were at a receital or something "important"...but that kind of dissipated after a few songs

I know this isn't the point of this thread, but:

You played together again?!?!?!?! No way. Any recordings out there?

http://www.archive.org/details/tmg2006-12-02

hey that's a good enough point. ah, pitzer college. i spent a good portion of my youth around there. but nothing as rad as that concert ever happened sadly.

all respect to tMg \m/, but someone put on an Unwound, Lync, Indian Summer, and Second Story Window show there in mid-1993. That's at least on the same tier of awesome... not to mention a Dump/Refrigerator show in 1999 or so.

See, this was the 90s awesomeness, bands from San Diego that lasted three weeks before recombining DNA to form two splinter groups until it was a mass pyramid schem'a screamo.

yeah i guess it's sad how things work out. but isn't a lot of this just a reaction to all the PR b.s. the artists themselves were spewing at the time they were fresh (like what ned was talking about).....the same stuff all the classic rock godz they were supposedly fighting against said when they were young bucks.

every generation thinks it invented the blowjob.

Talking bout my ge-ne-ra-tion!

every generation thinks it invented the blowjob.

M@tt for the win

Why the fuck is everyone saying that it's going to be MBV performing Loveless? Neither of the links that list other bands playing old albums put anything beside the Valentine name.

Thurston Moore performing Psychic Hearts

I'd be against this kinda thing but I just can't wait for this timeless classic to be performed live.

I'm not sure anyone has stated this yet, but I think there are two sides to the "classic album" performance. One is a band like the Stones, Sex Pistols or whatever touring on old material over and over, nothing new to add, and yes, that's gotta be lame. But on the other hand, a lot of the bands doing the ATP Don't Look Back thing -- for example Sonic Youth, Public Enemy, Low all come to mind -- I mean, all of those bands are relatively active with new material as well, so the classic album front-to-back performance is more of a limited-run special event than a way for the bands to cash in repeatedly. Sonic Youth has stopped with the Daydream tour and are back to new material; Low did a one-time performance of Things We Lost in the Fire, yet they haven't stopped pushing forward since; and Public Enemy will no doubt have another new, ignored album out after these Nation of Millions dates. It's not a full-blown reunion tour, it's a one-time special deal. And I think that's awesome.

And yes, I'd love to see the MBV reunion at this fest.

I have inside knowledge that they've been rehearsing with 200 effects pedals. That should be enough, no?

yeah stephen I'm just a grumpus about this (and plenty of other things of course) - it seems such a willful celebration of the whole concept of The Canon, which I think is a pernicious, loathsome thing to celebrate

per·ni·cious Audio Help [per-nish-uhs] Pronunciation Key
–adjective
1. causing insidious harm or ruin; ruinous; injurious; hurtful: pernicious teachings; a pernicious lie.

is Thurston Moore trying to cause insidious harm or ruin?? i mean, I'd hardly call Psychic Hearts a part of The Canon -- it's just a good-to-great Thurston solo album that the big SY fans at this event will be excited to hear played live, and you know, the same fans will keep on checking out everything Thurston/SY does in the future regardless of this one show.

Part of me can't help but think one of the most awesome things in the world would be for a touring band with one classic album to be playing a regular show...then in the middle of their set, they play the first song from that album...followed by the second...followed by the third... People start to clue in "holy crap, are they going to play the album in its entirety?" And the band keeps playing the album in order, whipping the crowd into a frenzy. Then, they play the next-to-last song on the album ....and walk offstage. House lights go up.

If it's MBV at this thing, pulling the plug before they get to "Soon", they should win the Nobel Prize.

When I saw the Damned they played like the 1st 5 songs off Machine Gun Etiquette, in order. I started to wonder if they were going to do the whole album but then after that they played New Rose and it was a normal set. Was fucking ace though.

x-post -- Prince doing that with Purple Rain would be even funnier.

Cheap Trick was messing around with this idea years ago. I saw them play the entire first record in Grand Rapids in the mid 90s.

x-post - Roger Waters - Meddle (without Echoes)

There. I gave away Coachella.

You bad man.

Anyway, oddly (?) enough I just got wind of this in an e-mail:

PATTI SMITH AND KEVIN SHIELDS SET TO RELEASE THE CORAL SEA
EMOTIONAL SPOKEN-WORD REQUIEM RECORDED LIVE IN 2005 & 2006
DOUBLE-DISC RELEASE SET FOR JULY 11. 2008

Legendary artist Patti Smith and My Bloody Valentine's Kevin Shields are set to release a double-disc set of their live performance of The Coral Sea on July 11, 2008 on their own PASK imprint. The Coral Sea is Patti Smith's posthumous homage to her friend and photographer Robert Mapplethorpe and the title to her 1996 book. Kevin Shields accompanies her on guitars and effects and creates a haunting backdrop to the spoken prose.

The recordings were made June 22nd 2005 and September 12th, 2006 respectively at sold-out performances at the QEH in London. The set will run almost two-hours with a different stylistic approach to each performance. The UK's Guardian upon reviewing the 2005 performance gave it 5 stars and called it "magical."

One critic said of the live performance: A kind of screaming requiem, The Coral Sea describes Mapplethorpe's terminal illness. Intense, layered electronics surged to a discordant climax as Patti Smith read her poem, the words sailing over the noise like an ocean liner, with the black-and-white video showing the ocean, the liner and the grey twilight of grief. The poem tells the story of M (Mapplethorpe) on a final voyage to see the stars of the Southern Cross before he dies.

Long-rumored to be released on CD, this first official issuing of these live recordings have been curated with care by both Patti Smith and Kevin Shields. Whether the duo will reprise this performance in the future is still unknown.

stephen you didn't actually copy in the dictionary definition of "pernicious" instead of say trying to figure out what I might have meant by it did you

I know you didn't do that

note that when I say "I know," I don't actually mean "I have knowledge of" here

no MBV no peace
know MBV know peace

If it's MBV at this thing, pulling the plug before they get to "Soon", they should win the Nobel Prize.

-- Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:50 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Not the Nobel Peace Prize though.

That is GREAT news about The Coral Sea!

they should win the Nobel War Prize

???

http://homepage2.nifty.com/backpagerecords/EricBurdonWar.jpg

they should win the Nobel War Prize

You went where I dared not go.

stephen you didn't actually copy in the dictionary definition of "pernicious" instead of say trying to figure out what I might have meant by it did you

I know you didn't do that

i'm not sure any definition of "pernicious" that you could give would fit the Thurston scenario, regardless.

sigh

would copy in various OED exempla, many admittedly obscure (nb by obscure I don't mean "concealed in darkness") that are sort of divaspeak for "hateful" but will you be content with "he is a pernicious citizen, said M. Curius, who cannot be contented with seven acres" (Hume, Pol. Disc. 1782)? sorry if you're excited to see psychic hearts or something, no harm intended yo

obscure (nb by obscure I don't mean "concealed in darkness")

ha ha ha very funny :P

i live in texas, i'd be lucky to make it to ny for that

I'd be against this kinda thing but I just can't wait for this timeless classic to be performed live.

Sarcasm?

ha, yeah, that record is OK, but it's certainly one of the odder choices to be played live in its entirety ... i'd like to hear thurston do that "elegy for dead rock stars" tune live ...

Sarcasm yeah.

Soz to be all British and that.

sarcasm generator still on.

Sonic Youth has stopped with the Daydream tour and are back to new material;

And they did 40 minutes of post-Rourke material as the encore for the Daydream DLB shows.

Part of me can't help but think one of the most awesome things in the world would be

yer man Trayce saw They Might Be Giants in Melbourne six years ago, where for the second night of a two-night run they opened by playing Flood in its entirety. But they hadn't announced it and apparently people were baffled so they never did it again.

(they'd done pre-announced, sold-on-that-basis Flood shows in the States before.)

Still no indication that MBV aren't going to be playing new shit at these shows!

ATP New York sold out in about 5-10 minutes...

we all wasted our time here, then

well, it also means that additional tour dates are more likely to be announced sooner than later :)

Additional tickets will go on sale in the coming weeks, with accommodations in a nearby hotel.

http://www.pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=10004

= next week, sez customer service.

So they're supposed to be planning "6-8 US Dates" dunno if that's including ATP, but I'm assuming another New York show, LA, San Francisco, Chicago maybe?, uhh???? Toronto or Boston/Philly/Seattle/Montreal/any ideas??

RED ROCKS

6-8 US Dates would not include Canadian dates, assuming there are any.

I think LA and Chicago are certain, and SF and Austin are probable. I think NY is likely, but not guaranteed, especially if there are single-day tix to ATP. Other possibles - Boston, Philly, DC, Seattle or Portland (or Vancouver), Detroit (or Toronto). Twin Cities? Miami or Atlanta?

one would presume MBV would be providing intensities in at least ten cities...

pocatello, helena, cheyenne, ft. collins, chico, and provo FTW

i like zeppo myself