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...and I can hardly belive so many of you are pissing yourselves ignoring that they DO in fact sound just like The Strokes.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:18 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)

shut up

― the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

*handbags*

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

What do they look like?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.ww1-propaganda-cards.com/images/franz%20ferdinand.JPG

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:25 (twenty-two years ago)

excellent, zithead.

― LiquidTide (LiquidTide), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

rock!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess i'm just not used to ILMers so openly deluding themselves.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:33 (twenty-two years ago)

lick our collective anal sphincter

― the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:35 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a sad, sad day

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

do the Strokes ever do anything other than play eighth notes?

― Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

who cares?

― aleksandr supertramp (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

well, the thing is, a couple tracks sound ok, but christ I can't listen to a whole album of that 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 over and over again. I think the Ramones actually had a bit more variety. And a better singer.

― Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 24 January 2004 06:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I've only heard "Darts of Pleasure", and yes...there is undeniably a Strokesesque feel to it, but they come across as a bit more ambitious and imaginative than Julian and his louche, hirsute pals (and the vocalist enunciates better). Nice chunky bass plonking on that track, as well. And the final bit in German (???) is a nice touch too.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 24 January 2004 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess i'm just not used to ILMers so openly deluding themselves.

Are you sure you've been hanging out here very much then, roger? (and i include myself in the set labelled "deluding themselves")

― jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 24 January 2004 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)

What an astute observation.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

What do they look like?

http://www.chachacha.co.uk/images/franzferdinand-paul.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The Thrills, then.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Saturday, 24 January 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

blah blah gratuitous Strokes-bashing blah blah roger adultery being a pedant blah blah nate further understands how jess turned out the way he did

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I will say one thing: if Franz Ferdinand getting to number threee isn't the most obvious buy-in in musical history, then I don't know what is.

And, no, The Music don't count.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought FF were pretty great on TotP last nite.

Like Alex in NYC, I think they are a lot more imaginative than most of The Next Strokes types, in fact, I suspect they are simply milking that particular fashion (the structure of the song seems quite explicit about this kind of opportunism). 'Darts of Pleasure' made me think they might simply be the next stage of nurock heritage strip mining - simply moving the MO on from CBGBs to Postcard and The Fall. But the new record, pretty uniquely in new British guitar pop, promises something witty and mischievous and even sexy.

Didn't Alex used to be in The Karelia? They weren't very good, but had almost Cowardian perversity about them, which hopefully will start to show up in FF even more.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

they're playing a secret gig at the chateau tonight.

and i think the members of FF in scatter have now left scatter. uncomfirmed.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 January 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I said it in another FF thread -- I saw them in Brooklyn the other night and they kicked ass. Their drummer was on fire. They beat the pants off the Rapture for post-punk dance-a-bility. And for the life of me, I heard nothing Strokes-esque about their music. They were goofy, too, which I loved.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 24 January 2004 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I Haven't Heard Them Yet.
But I Hear Nothing But Good Things.
And I Like The Strokes.
Don't Know Why So Many People Don't.
Wanna Go Have Some Sushi?
Come On.....No Really Come On.....
So You Don't Wanna Have Sushi With Me?.

― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Saturday, 24 January 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

As mentioned elsewhere, the lead guy is apparently a Sparks fanatic = I'm inclined to like these characters.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I like them, looking forward to hearing the album. Big Talking Heads influence, which can't be a bad thing.

― Chris Jones (Crackity Jones), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The club I was in last night played Take Me Out three times over the course of the evening. It's nice and that, but Christ.

― Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

If anything, I'd say they owe more to Interpol than the Strokes. They certainly seem to have more to say and more imaginative ways to say it than the Strokes do. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the Strokes, but they don't seem to have much fun in the presentation of their art. By contrast, Franz Ferdinand certainly do.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 24 January 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Talking Heads influence, which can't be a bad thing.

Just about *every* band who ever admits to/talks about a Talking Heads influence is better than the Talking Heads themselves, I've found. So this is quite a recommendation!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

morgan geist rmx sounds a bit meh, disappointingly

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 24 January 2004 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

BOO TO YOU NED. I just bought a used LP of Fear of Music (along with Miss E: So Addictive and a Carmen McRae album where she covers Alice Cooper's "Only Women Bleed") and I will play it loudly in amiable yet rebellious defiance of your haterism.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(a McRae album, I should add, that the AMG Jazz Snob Mafia doesn't appear to like.)

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

haha she covers eric carmen's "all by myself" too!

― aleksandr supertramp (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I the only one who's noticed that the singer sounds exactly like David Gedge?

― JoB (JoB), Sunday, 25 January 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

BOO TO YOU NED.

It's true! I only like a few singles by them -- mostly for nostalgia -- and I've never cared enough to listen any further. It's like they have all these reasonably good elements and put them together in a way that annoys.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

If you think they sound like The Strokes, then you need to get your shit together, sure maybe the first :30 of "Take Me Out" might sound a little bit, but The Strokes have never come up with anything half as tuneful as "Take Me Out." It's so much more a Josef K, Talking Heads, Blondie, Orange Juice, Fall thing.

fuck off,

Hector

― Hector Savage, Sunday, 25 January 2004 05:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Hector OTM.

I can't believe it's taken this long on this thread for anyone to mention Josef K. They also remind me in many ways of The Yummy Fur (not the aussie one), which is perhaps not surprising considering the groups share two members.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Hector OTM except Franz Ferdinand are still not all that. I get the impression that what they're trying to do is very good but their execution of it sadly isn't.

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 25 January 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I've only heard one song, but so far I like.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought they sounded like Josef K on the first EP. And a tiny bit like Momus on Van Tango. Not so much on the new one, it's too tight and in tune.

― Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I will listen to the album later and provide an important and gripping insight into what I think it sounds a bit like in places.

― Ferrrrrrg (Ferg), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

they used to be in the yummy fur ? but the yummy fur were quite good!

my friend's quote at w/e was "franz ferdinand ? more like les ferdinand".

not funny, but nor are they.

― fletcher dexter, Sunday, 25 January 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i hear they're supposed to be much better live than on record. so far i've got the Darts of Pleasure EP and like it a bit, so if the above is true, i'll be quite happy if i get to see them. and they'll be here in March. so. :)

― janni (janni), Monday, 26 January 2004 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

From a semi-attentive first listen, the single is the the best thing on the album by quite some distance.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I randomly saw them at T in the Park last year on the wee bands stage and quite liked them in their angular pop music stompy disco german-ness. The ToTP performance was cool in its complete lack of polish; they did try to do moves together but didn't really pull it off. Best of all is their miniature gay Jim Carey/Kyle MacLachlan guitar player. Quite entertaining in a big headed sorta way.

Does anyone else find it really bizarre that they are in the top 5?

― hmmmm, Monday, 26 January 2004 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Franz Ferdinand - if The Strokes could play their instruments a bit better.

― Stupid (Stupid), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

they would be a lot more boring

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

So, if supposedly The Strokes sound JUST like VU/Television, and Franz Ferdinand sounds EXACTLY like The Strokes, why did we cut out the middle man and say Franz Ferdinand sounds like VU/Television?

Oh right, because they don't.

― LiquidTide (LiquidTide), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't see the link between FF and the strokes, really (and I like both...maybe I AM the missing link then !?)
FF haven't released an album yet, have they ?

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The Strokes would never sully themselves with anything as vulgar as a tempo change.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Franz Ferdinand sound like Television.

There.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 26 January 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Ummm....no they don't.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 26 January 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Neither FF nor the strokes sound like television...they wish !

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 January 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Franz Ferdinand sound like Cud or Thousand Yard Stare.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Monday, 26 January 2004 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I like Cud, but TYS...that's a pretty cold insult.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Still haven't heard FF. I hope they sound like Thousand Yard Stare. TYS were extremely underrated. You've obviously never heard Comeuppance.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 26 January 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

TYS had at least two great songs

― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 26 January 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

0-0 After Extra Time, Wideshire....

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 26 January 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"So, if supposedly The Strokes sound JUST like VU/Television, and Franz Ferdinand sounds EXACTLY like The Strokes, why did we cut out the middle man and say Franz Ferdinand sounds like VU/Television?
Oh right, because they don't.

-- LiquidTide"

Nobody is saying anyone sounds EXACTLY like anyone else.

― Stupid (Stupid), Monday, 26 January 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i disagree with Tico's view on tempo changes naturally - 'Batdance', 'Bo Rap' and er, 'I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do For That)' all cases in point

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Stupid, read the first line of this thread. as well as all of the old Strokes threads. I finally got a copy of this album today. I actually wouldn't compare them to the Strokes at all. Except for the fact that you, you know, guitars, bands, cute boys, 4/4 time.

― LiquidTide (LiquidTide), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay. Fine. I'M not saying that. I'M saying they sound remarkably similar, and are extremely dull in EXACTLY the same way that The Strokes are.

I hate it when people claim band a doesn't sound like band b simply because everyone else is saying they do. Sometimes, everybody says something because it's so fucking obvious...

― Stupid (Stupid), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.coldbacon.com/pics/zombies.jpg

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno if it sounds like the Strokes, who I've pretty well managed to avoid, but it sure sucks ass.

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Thousand Yard Stare were awful.

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess i'm just not used to ILMers so openly deluding themselves.

and how long have you been posting here? it's practically all that happens here.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

oh we're not so bad

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm probably including myself in this, too, btw

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

FF = a little = Television.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

They're boring, I'm amazed that many people are clamouring for okish indie rock

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

that that that

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

surely they are the first band ever band to have been influenced by the monochrome set that hasn't actually included members of the monochrome set? this cannot be all bad. also really i must say they sound nothing like any band mentioned on this thread with the exception of josef k.

― cw (cww), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...


From:  	  Katie
Date: 	Mar 11, 2004 08:49 PM
Subject: 	Franz Ferdinand!! (soo rockin!)
Body: 	Ok, so my good friend turned me onto this new band Franz Ferdinand. And may I say... freakin' AWESOME!! It has been so long since I heard songs sooo good and sooo rockin' that I have to blast it and actually jump around and dance and shake my booty! Seriously, this band rocks, and I mean that cool old fashioned funk edgey raw type of rock, with the catchiest hooks, but pure music all the way thru. An album that will make your head bop and foot tap involuntarily, for sure. Everyone should run out and buy it NOW!! You will NOT be dissappointed!

OMG ROCKIN' SHUT UP AND DIE

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Saturday, 13 March 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

errr stupid pre tag

From:  	  Katie
Date: 	Mar 11, 2004 08:49 PM
Subject: 	Franz Ferdinand!! (soo rockin!)
Body:
Ok, so my good friend turned me onto this new band Franz Ferdinand. And may I say... freakin' AWESOME!! It has been so long since I heard songs sooo good and sooo rockin' that I have to blast it and actually jump around and dance and shake my booty! Seriously, this band rocks, and I mean that cool old fashioned funk edgey raw type of rock, with the catchiest hooks, but pure music all the way thru. An album that will make your head bop and foot tap involuntarily, for sure. Everyone should run out and buy it NOW!! You will NOT be dissappointed!

OMG ROCKIN' SHUT UP AND DIE

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Saturday, 13 March 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Let me guess, she beat you at Risk, then sent you this.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

She will *never* beat me at Risk or Scrabble.

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Saturday, 13 March 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

hey everyone i have the answer.

Strokes, VU, Franz Ferdinand and Television sound like:

SHIT!

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

1 for 4 there, Chaki. Tough luck. Please enjoy our consolation prize, a three-year-old case of Surge(tm).

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

(also: MORE LIKE FRANZ FARTINAND, AM I RIGHT FOLX?!?!)

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

hey im not homophobic but i aint into surge

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i was roundly disappointed upon first listen. strokes 2.0. hardly imaginative.

YET.

now i cannot for the life of me get "take me out" to stop playing in my brain. i think FF has probably cooked up the sweetest dish of 80s pop revival imaginable. i'm so like totally hurdling somewhere between the planes of "sunday bloody sunday", "puttin on the ritz", and "another one bites the dust" and the midget ghosts of kajagoogoo are dancing on my buddha belly.

for sure.
m.

― msp, Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

no way?

― foonan, Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.brinksmarket.com/dew/images/2002/middle.jpg

If they're so great, how come they're not on MTV and no one cares?

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

way!
m.

― msp, Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

they probably belong on vh1.
m.

― msp, Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Franz Ferdinand will never be on VH-1's "I Love the 00's". They suck.

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely this band doesn't sound like The Monochrome Set though. Or do they? There couldn't be very many bands smart and talented enough to rip them off successfully. If they could, I might need to hear them.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I need to listen to that Monochrome Set disc I have again. I quite like it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

And Slint

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Saturday, 13 March 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

jon do you have a keytar?

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 13 March 2004 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Franz Ferdinand are often compared to the Monochrome Set and Josef K. and Orange Juice.

Man people I know often argue that they sound like none of those awesome bands.

I've only ever heard the Morgan Geist remix.

Which sounds really cool.

More bands should sound like the Monochrome Set.

Belle and Sebastian, at times, like parts of the 3 eps that came out after If You're Feeling Sinister, had that El/early Cherry Red vibe, but most people didn't notice because they were too busy comparing them to Nick Drake and the Kinks. They even name-checked Felt. I'm really tired.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 13 March 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

There's more than one band called the Yummy Fur!?

― Dan I., Saturday, 13 March 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I really love "Take Me Out." Single of the year so far. What the new Strokes album should've sounded like.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 13 March 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Why has only one other person on these boards noticed that "Take Me Out" = "Can't Stop" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 13 March 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

...They really do suck. Had the misfortune of seeing them live recently. Went in with an open mind not really having heard much of their stuff. To say that I was bored is being polite. The crowd was well into it though. Me and my buddy were looking around wondering what the hell was going on. I couldn't help but wonder if there was something that I just wasn't getting which might explain peoples' ecstatic reactions to this bunch of pretenders. Having only heard the singles and a handful of album tracks, I was going to give the whole album a shot to see if it changed anything, but I can't be bothered. Seriously, can someone explain why the whole world is going crazy over these guys?

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

(lots of) people like easy things but they also like to look smart and complicated. franz ferdinand are easy, they're a piece of piss, but have somehow managed to convince everyone that they're Difficult and Complex. meh. pfft. can take 'em or leave 'em, personally.

― emsk, Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the Zongamin mix of 'Matinee' is fruity

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

There's more than one band called the Yummy Fur!?

I think the name is from a comic originally...

I still like thee 'Nands

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The Grammar in the title of this thread makes me very sad

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Unless it really does refer to the assasinated archduke

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Porkpie suck!

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

saw them live, thought they were fun and energetic, atmosphere was amazing, but theyre kind of a one trick pony. all their songs have more or less the same riffs, the same mechanical rhythms, and maybe even the same chords.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm never one to pass up a grammar fight, but bands are always singular in american english.

which kinda makes sense, you know.

but hey.

― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry but this hating on and on about Franz Ferdinand kind of reminds me of guys who obviously hide their gayness by trumpeting their homophobia

with respect to roger a; of course i don't mean to single you out.

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I like this album a lot. They do a good job of making nu-wave sound like Paul Revere & The Raiders.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry but this hating on and on about Franz Ferdinand kind of reminds me of guys who obviously hide their gayness by trumpeting their homophobia

What are we supposed to be hiding?

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

We are supposed to be hiding.....our sausage in whatever orifice we truly, deeply desire.

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I sense a pulsing subtext.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

We just have one sausage? Better be selective then.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Most individuals I know are of that gender have only one sausage. Though I have heard of exceptions.

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, perhaps they are Viennas.

(Thea, I must say that knowing the good Mr. J-Rock as I do, when he says he doesn't like something, he is in fact telling you what he thinks rather than being strangely ironic.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

who's J-Rock, Ned? and what is a "Vienna"? Forgive my naivete.

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

GET ONE SAUSAGE

― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Do I sense a recipe coming on, dean?

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The whole world is going crazy about these guys cuz they make danceable fun rock songs about goin' clubbin'! This ain't rocket science, folks.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"bands are always singular in american english"
No they're not. Love is coming to your town. The Pixies are not.
"(lots of) people like easy things but they also like to look smart and complicated."
Should read "everyone likes"
Franz Ferdinand aren't bad. If you can't understand why people don't like them, listen to their lyrics. "I was telling Terry (whatever British guy) about, how I made it and . . . what I made is unclear now, but his deference is, and his laughter is . . ."
I point that out not because it's particularly luculent but because it's invigoratingly arrogant, tinged with an archly sighing regret about being so wonderful. That's very easy to resent, especially when you're not laying models. "Women think I'm tasty, they're always trying to waste me." Remember that?
PS: The Strokes sound like Guided by Voices. See "Hard to Explain."

― willie strunk, Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Word. I like Franz Ferdinand and sausages....especially bratwurst.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

who's J-Rock, Ned?

Refer upthread to the post which caused this thread to be revived.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

J-Rock is the sausage king of Chicago.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

(Toronto. ;-))

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Word. Peeps in Toronto be eatin' mad sausages....J-Rock's the hook-up.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Amen to that.
They themselves say the same thing about what their music is, that is isn't closer to God than anything else, or whatever.

I supposed I joined in here because it seems pretty clear most of us agree that that their music is not deep and meaningful, yet the hate they extract from ILM outweighs the need, in my opinion, for what that's worth.

Hate away if you don't like it but why work the knickers into such a twist about these guys in particular? From what I've seen they don't even need to be taken down a peg, they don't put on airs as far as I know. Maybe that's changed and they need as much hate as possible.

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i would have thought that the poppy and contrived and catchy and playful (perhaps even saucy) nature of FF would make them ILM favs....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Jealous Ones Envy

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

the masses be tardin'

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

yo is it true franz ferdinand got sonned by a wite kid after a aol beef?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, send me a super-model and damn, I will borrow someone's bratwurst, not having one of my own! Jealous ones envy indeed.

I find hating arrogance dull but now I'm bored with myself on this thread talking about it. Goodnight! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

They're just boring.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

UH.......RIGHT! THAT MUST BE WHY WE LOVE TALKING ABOUT THEM!!

sweet dreams.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

― Thea (Thea), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Boreeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah but they sound like they're tryin to be all deep, in a kind of dippy American Bandstand kind of way. "Let me weave you a spell..." They're the quintessential American Bandstand band. In fact, I think I'd like them if they were introduced by Dick Clark(e?)! At least while they were playing. But there's this kind of Derek and the Dominoes feel to them battling with the Kinks side. It never busts loose like they make you feel like it ought to. (Daft Punk remix of "Take Me Out" kind of deals with this in a hilariously ham-handed way)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think there's that much ILM hate for FF - it's just that haters are often louder around here (and criticism is often more interesting - if not more productive - to read than praise). I initially thought this band was a pale Strokes imitation, and I still don't think their songs are as strong, but I like them very much on the level of dance music. "Take Me Out" is a straight up floor-filler at really different kinds of clubs.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and the Daft Punk remix is really just more of a good thing.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a place to let out frustration and ??s about boring things getting their cocks sucked so fucking constantly and hard elsewhere.

Yeah, we don't really think they're boring. We must love them because we talk about them a lot! wtf

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

okay then: if you wanted to get the same sort of "vibe" (for lack of a better word) that FF provides, what would you listen too? Only current bands please, because all the old, similar sounding bands have been absorbed to saturation point.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

welcome to the year 2004

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Zongamin remix of Matinee > Daft Punk remix of Take Me Out

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I would rather listen to "Take Me Out" than "To Hell With Poverty" right now.

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't find them that boring at all. They're fun for long drives or late night drinking/posting sessions and a soulseek copy of the self-titled kept me warm through the winter. Unlike many "it" bands, FF seem to have an actual sense of humor in their music, which makes their whole arty/fashionable come-ons easier to swallow.

Ned already mentioned their affinity for Sparks, but I'm also glad they keep talking about ABBA in their interviews. A lot of their album tracks remind me of the overwrought decadence and sensuality in "Lay all your love on me" or "Gimme gimme gimme (a man after midnight)." To my ears, they seem to pay homage to that sort of music without sounding like they're trying too hard to pull it off (except perhaps the opening track).

I suppose the reverse argument could be made, that instead of giving a hint of subtlety and intellect their music simply feigns sophistication in order to lure the hordes of pretentious college students who refuse to shake their asses to the plainer plebeian stylings of Lil' Jon. Well, so be it. Like my ass gives a damn.

― Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I would submit that they might provide the opportunity (say a more fey and gay and englishy) way to shake your ass than Lil Jon...I'd bet lots of college students would shake their asses to both LIl Jon and FF (I bet if you go to college bars now you'd probably see than in the same nite!)....

....there is more than one way to shake an ass.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear that Franz Ferdinand are "15 pounds of fuck puppy in a 10 pound bag." Who knew?

― Sara Sherr, Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

....there is more than one way to shake an ass.

Well yeah, but then you still have plenty of people who prefer one over the other. And neither group are wrong. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I go to college bars and I've heard all about Lil Jon's sweaty balls, but to my knowledge the Franz haven't yet managed to penetrate the watering holes of Athens, Ohio. Maybe by the time I get back that will have changed. Tragically, we're still in the eye of the hurricane that is the 80s revival, and it's going to be a long hard battle to get anyone to admit that ABBA is as fun to dance to as one of those sophisticated 80s new wave acts like say, Madonna or Cyndi Lauper.

― Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

lil jon talks about his sweaty balls?! what song? that sounds awesome....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

duh! get low....y'all nevermind me....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

In a dank and dreary cavern somewhere deep below the earth, the ILXor mainframe has registered your astonishing lapse in remembering the scripture of St. Jon. It finds your lack of faith disturbing.

― Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Stupid bitch standing there while I'm drinking my hen
Steady looking at me still asking questions
Times up nigga pass me another contestant

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ta299701/vader.jpg

― Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

is this going to be added to my "permanent record"?

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU'RE GOING DOWN, GAMER

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Everything I worked so hard to build....undone by a pair of sweaty balls.....

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"Word. Peeps in Toronto be eatin' mad sausages....J-Rock's the hook-up.

We Torontonians do enjoy a good sausage now and then...

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

...and I can hardly belive so many of you are pissing yourselves ignoring that they DO in fact sound just like The Strokes

Thank gawd roger pointed out that these charlatans sound like the world's most original band - The Strokes.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

'PS: The Strokes sound like Guided by Voices. See "Hard to Explain."'

i see what you're saying, but...no.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

okay then: if you wanted to get the same sort of "vibe" (for lack of a better word) that FF provides, what would you listen too?

I can not answer this question as Franz Ferdinand do not provide me with a vibe! I don't think they're Satan, they just don't move my ass.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

(It's good to know that my trend for latching onto bands and musical genres that elicit such an, um, unpopular response from Serious Music People hasn't been broken. Though I would for once like to know that when I'm in the midst of crazy fandom over a particular musical artist that a great many Serious Music People love them too.)

(*sighs* No, Duran don't count, because I've viewed them as Big Sellouts since 2001.)

(*sighs again*)

(p.s.: I fucking HATE The Strokes, so don't give me any bullshit about how much Franz Ferdinand sound like them, because if FF sounded anything like The Strokes, I would fucking hate FF too. But I don't. I adore FF. So fucking THERE.)

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the first Strokes album.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 20 August 2004 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

does that make you gay?

http://www.moviesnapshot.com/1996Stills/Swingers.JPG

no baby, you're money!

― Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Friday, 20 August 2004 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Scissor Sisters version of "Take Me Out" is enjoyable.

I wasn't referring to Franz themselves as "zzzzzzzzzzz", but to my observation (which could well prove inaccurate to more seasoned ILM players) that many Franz conversations repeat themselves more than any other contemporary band.

― Thea (Thea), Friday, 20 August 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

so Roxy forget vibe. you can't think of another band that does what FF does? One that sounds anything like them, but better?

― oops (Oops), Friday, 20 August 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Define "anything like them"! It's like a music nerd riddle or soemthing. "Find a band that sounds like an older band, but it has to be a modern band, and they have to sound like something you don't like, only you like them."

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 20 August 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

No I didn't say anything about them sounding like an older band.
Surely you have heard or read people describing how FF sound and what they like about them, right? Well are there any bands you think can also be described in a similar way but that aren't boring and don't totally suck?

I think you know what I'm getting at. I don't really care for them much either, but I don't know of another band that one could listen to in order to get the same thing that they provide. You may find it boring (and I may too), but obviously many, many people get something out of them.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 20 August 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure what you're driving at. I guess you're trying to say they're unique. When I first heard them I just thought it sounded like another Hot Hot Heat/Strokes/Cover of NME Awesome New Band You Should Like. Should I give them another listen? I don't doubt that people "get something out of them," but for me it was a major gag reflex from having the next big four skinny white dudes playing retro rock in suits simultaneously shoved down my throat and adored for the last 4 years.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 21 August 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't understand how anybody could rate this band above terminally mediocre. I challenge anybody to listen to the album and still be enjoying it by around the half-way mark.

And I don't think the fact that there's no other bands around currently that sound like them who don't suck even more justifies their existence.

I mean c'mon, what's next, The Hives FFS?

― wombatX (wombatX), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah why not?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

there are two arguments against ff - the tom ewing one which i do see somewhat (although the way they fill the floor somewhat negates it), and the other corny indie fuxx one i'm surprised anyone here's old or dum enough to be preaching (though god knows it dominates this thread).

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the Hives album even more than this one. It's all about reminding me of Paul Revere & The Raiders.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

you should just listen to PR & the Rs, dude.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

dont you fags have anything better to do? fuckin losers

― spoony G, Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess you're trying to say they're unique. When I first heard them I just thought it sounded like another Hot Hot Heat/Strokes/Cover of NME Awesome New Band You Should Like.

Actually I was asking you if they were unique or if there are other similar yet better bands (i feel like i've said that about 4 times now).
Okay so you've said who they sound like. I'm guessing you don't see the appeal of those bands either? Maybe they're catchy/poppy enough to attract a wide audience yet also have enough perceived coolness/edginess (relatively speaking. relative to say, Jessica Simpson) for those who normally don't like pop to not be ashamed to admit to liking them? I dunno.

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 22 August 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(You know, it's times like these that make me want to stop trying to look for "new music" to like and just retreat back into the '80s-revering cave I once shut myself up in. Because it's taken me a lot of effort to try to be as passionate about "new music" as I've been about all the music I'd considered musical comfort food, and if what I'm choosing to listen to is not considered quality listening by those who have a decidedly larger interest in "new music", I'm going to be more reluctant to try other bits of "new music" out, because I'm going to figure I'm never going to stop going down this "wrong path", and so why try out anything if what I'm going to be enthusiastic about is "crap"?)

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 22 August 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

other people are usually wrong, dee.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost way up

Is it shocking to anyone that the people making the "corny indie fuxx" argument against NME's pet bands are being exactly the sorts of clannish, snobby asshats that they're railing against?

You've got the "katie" franz ferdinand email hotkeyed and just waiting to be the piece de resistance of the latest and greatest Frinterpol Strokillers debate. You don't let mainstream radio OR Spin/NME decide what you like (and Magnet's for fags). Big fucking deal. You couldn't fit the indie stereotype more unless you died twenty years ago and pitchfork was reviewing reissues of your first record.

― Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

'Is it shocking to anyone that the people making the "corny indie fuxx" argument against NME's pet bands are being exactly the sorts of clannish, snobby asshats that they're railing against?'

hasn't that always been obvious? indie fuxx make fun of indie fuxx, fanboys make fun of fanboys (ahem), religious nuts make fun of other religious nuts...and so on.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

right, exactly, this is what momus was talking about on one of the vice threads: the narcissism of small differences. Yes, it's always obvious, but it seems somewhat self-defeating to be an asshole while complaining about assholes. If jon or whoever were like fucking Mother Teresa and started threads about baking cookies for ilxors and sending them in the mail with cards that had kittens on them, at least their bitching about indie assholes would be valid.

I'm glad I found ilx and I love the sense of community, 99% of the time you get insightful and/or hilarious posts, but sometimes the posturing is a bit much.

― Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like franz ferdinand.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

you should just listen to PR & the Rs, dude.

I do, but they're not post-punk

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know what you mean.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank ferguson however......

― Porkpie (porkpie), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

other people are usually wrong, dee.

I'm not talking about the "general population", though -- I'm talking Serious Music People, whom I'd always kinda hoped I'd end up being considered one of, but also always seem to be out of step with.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 23 August 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

oh gimme a break, plenty of us like f.f. around here.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

oh gimme a break, plenty of us like f.f. around here.

Uh, sure. If you want to call that lukewarm, tepid, "Eh, they're sorta okay-ish" or "I like two or three songs of theirs" or "They're, like, really, really, really simple, but I like them anyway" sort of "liking" that.

Really, Franz Ferdinand will probably be passionately extolled in some futuristic version of ILX eleven years down the line, when I'll be onto another group people will think is horribly derivative or overly simple or something. It'll be destiny.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

it doesn't matter.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The "I know I won't be leavin here" part sounds kind of like Jim Morrison doing his "c'mon c'mon c'mon now TOUCH me babe" i.e. when singing along you have to do this faux-serious slightly drunk crooner thing. But other than that, and the fact he's got a nice deep voice, I just don't like his singing. He insists on the vocal affectations that make me instinctively pull away from 99% of new rock music - the "cracked" voice, the quavery unprofessional vibrato - although - he does it less than most.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"Take Me Out" is fantastic, guys. Seriously.

If they do sound like The Strokes, it's the version of The Strokes that's engaged with the song they're currently playing and displaying a pulse (which I'm sure The Strokes do from time to time, it's just that I've never seen/heard it).

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah they're really not that bad. FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

...the Le Tigre single?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

indeed.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

A united front, yes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't really think criticism is made for telling people not to like what they like. i like the strokes and what i've heard of f.f. some of the negative reactions are interesting, some may even take root eventually, but it doesn't change the fact that i like them. dee, i think you need to be more secure in your tastes while happily acknowledging and even digesting some criticism of your faves. the alternative makes for depression or, even worse, glibness.

― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

glibness is better than depression actually.

― woe is me - NOT, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

well i'd rather be glib than depressed, but i think those i encounter would rather me be depressed than glib. so it depends on the point of view.

― amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't really think criticism is made for telling people not to like what they like.

I suppose not NOW, but historically I've been made to feel like there's something wrong with me for taking seriously certain musical artists, so please forgive me as I try to make the necessary adjustments.

i like the strokes and what i've heard of f.f. some of the negative reactions are interesting, some may even take root eventually, but it doesn't change the fact that i like them. dee, i think you need to be more secure in your tastes while happily acknowledging and even digesting some criticism of your faves. the alternative makes for depression or, even worse, glibness.

You do make really good points there. I suppose I'm just so weary of getting heavy amounts of grief for what I love most musically and feeling more than a measure of loneliness re: not being able to find people to share my biggest musical passions with on an intellectual level that I just end up in a pile of despair.

*sighs* It would be SO EASY if I were a Radiohead fan or a Beatles fan, for example. But I'm not, and I never will be. But okay, I'll try to be more secure about what I love, and I'll try to continue nurturing my FF fanhood at the same time as I try out other "new music" artists, and I'll try to absorb the criticism better.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

other people's opinions are no more valid than your own, dee, even if said people are Serious Music People.

― oops (Oops), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

At this point in time Duran Duran is historically a more important and more credible band than Radiohead and I say this as someone who likes Radiohead more than Duran Duran.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with VDP on all fronts but then again I'm also doped up on cold meds.

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

so, are girls going to be hanging pictures of them in their lockers this year? or what? alongside pictures of death cab for cutie and modest mouse and yeah yeah yeahs? right?

do they still make those teenbeat things?

if so, are they still restricted to gwen stefani stock photos?

― reo, Monday, 23 August 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

STILL SUCKING

FAVORITE TSHIRT OF BORING WHITE KIDS AT FRAT PARTIES:

http://www.banchoryshop.net/images/franztour.jpg

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

and that's coming from an expert on boring white kids!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I live in their natural habitat!

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

fashioncore's Jean Goodall.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

More like Franz Turd-in-hand!

― Rachel Hella Myles, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I still like 'em!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

FRANZ FERDI-BLAND

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, at least the Boredoms are honest about their name

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

are you fat and do you aspire to get indie girls to like you?

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MMPH/249781.jpg http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1600000/images/_1601868_ferdinand_ap150.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

http://shazam.imginc.com/media/images/castingcall/dennis_franz.gif http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1600000/images/_1601868_ferdinand_ap150.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno. Do you look like an emaciated Quentin Tarantino?

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh this is utter utter crap. rhythm section sounds like something i;d play along with my guitar teacher... fuck this shit.

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Write lyrics that interesting and then talk cool kid.

― kaiser wilhelm, Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

So, if you're lonely
You know I'm here
Waiting for you
I'm just a cross-hair;
I'm just a shot away from you

And if you leave here,
You leave me broken
Shattered I lie
I'm just a cross-hair;
I'm just a shot, then we can die

oooh!

I know I won't be leaving here
With you

I say, don't you know?
You say you don't know
I say: take me out

I stay, you don't show
Don't move; time is slow
I say: take me out

I say, you don't know
You say you don't go
I say: take me out

I know I won't be leaving here (with you)
I know I won't be leaving here
I know I won't be leaving here (with you)
I know I won't be leaving here
With you

I say, don't you know?
You say you don't know
I say: take me out

If I move, this could die
Eyes move; this could die
C'mon --
Take me out

I know I won't be leaving here (with you)
I know I won't be leaving here
I know I won't be leaving here (with you)
I know I won't be leaving here
With you

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Greek people who write good lyrics and fun dance music vs. spoiled middle class American college kids whose parents fund their lives and who listen to """NOIZE""" whilst consuming drugs and SPARQZ and feeling superior and the world starves

― iannis, Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

iannis OTT but sometimes i like those are lyrics for a GOOD POP SONG. It's only rock & roll son and they do it well. Who's doing it better right now?

― kaiser wilhelm, Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The Strokes

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The Faint