C/D Bush

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This is embarrassing.

― Leee Majors (Leee), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I LIKE GLYCERINE ok I said it.

― Leee Majors (Leee), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Sixteen Stone is really a lot better than anyone wants to remember it being, and "Swallowed" is a great song. Everything other than that was pretty much crap though.

Bush took a lot of unfair crap for having a pretty singer. (And not being terribly original - but I don't care, I like Sixteen Stone more than Nevermind)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, and his lyrics were supposedly crap, but that's another in the "who cares" vein for me - I'm not convinced that 'genius' lyrics from Thom Yorke are any better.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, Albini produced 'em... um, why'd he do that anyway? I never found the answer (or looked for it).

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 14 January 2004 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

albini produced for one reason -->$$$$$$

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 07:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Jokes about the president to thread

― sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 07:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not convinced that 'genius' lyrics from Thom Yorke are any better.

Word for word maybe not, but Thom has a worldview, which is something that Bush lacks. In stark relief.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Who cairs?

― Leee Majors (Leee), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought "Machinehead" was catchy. And I always liked "Greedy Fly" and "Little Things." And "Come Down." There are definitely far worse post-grunge singles than these four.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"Sixteen Stone more than Nevermind"

I'm sorry, but WHAT THE FUCK!?

― hmmmmm (neil simpson), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

albini produced for one reason -->$$$$$$

ie he did his day job and got paid accordingly.

Some NME review from way back nailed the problem with Bush: they (or Gavin) think that because they like Mudhoney and Big Black etc, and music journalists like these bands as well, that should mean Bush are good and critically praised. Which is where their incredibly dull songs come in.

I've never heard their cover of 'Kerosene'. How bad is it on a scale of one to PUBLIC HANGING IMMEDIATELY? Anyone?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh c'mon....complete and utterly indefensible dud.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Yep, I'm with ya alex

― Jole, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Shit sandwich

― Chris V (Chris V), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to kinda like "Everything Zen."

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

The first album reminded me more of Swervedriver than Nirvana. They weren't as good as Swervedriver, though, so therein the problem.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Only Bush song I ever liked: "Letting the Cables Sleep."

Not really a hit, but it was briefly in rotation on a local "modern rock" radio station about 5 years ago.

Other than that - bleeecchhh.....

― kickitcricket, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

dud. such an obvious dud.
this thread should be destroyed as having the "c/d bush" title infers that it might be debateable. even the inference that they might have been classic or allowing it for debate is absurd. moderators please delete, thank you.

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

If there's a better definition of mid-90s post-grunge mediocrity, I'd like to hear it.

― Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

They would have been better if they had collaborated with Marilyn instead of Albini.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

They defined the archetypal nineties MTV video... Fisheye lens, painted room, hand gestures into the camera, emotive mediocrity, greasy long hair...

Dud.

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and i forgot about the lens flares! Holy shit... sadly, this trend is STILL strong in MTV videos... WHY WHY WHY?

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I like "Glycerine".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

If there's a better definition of mid-90s post-grunge mediocrity, I'd like to hear it.

Creed.

― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, sorry... Creed is end-90's. I still prefer Bush to Creed though.

― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

One song had a really good riff, I think -- "Machine Head," maybe? Maybe not. And that line about "going to meet my asshole brother" in "Everything Zen" was somewhat humorous.

― chuck, Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

george w = dud
george h.w. = dud
jeb = dud
barbara = guilty pleasure

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I never imagined I'd be alone in defending them. I'm sure it's perception colored by nostalgia on my part for adolescence (pop-grunge/alternative = '94-5, junior high, only thing on the radio was the Toadies, Bush, Offspring, Tripping Daisy, etc.).

The way people a few years older feel about pop-metal and pop-music from the mid/late-80s, that's me for the mid-90s. I just bought Sheryl Crow's Tuesday Night Music Club and Alannis's Jagged Little Pill at the used-CD store.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

If there's a better definition of mid-90s post-grunge mediocrity, I'd like to hear it.
Somebody make Mirov a bootleg of Candlebox and STP

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Lord Custos OTM about Candlebox, though I think STP were a little bit better (not much, though). I could have sworn I saw the lead singer of Candlebox in a beer commercial not too long ago, having recognized him from a special on VH1 (I only vaguely remembered any of their songs). Probably just my imagination.

Miloaukerman apparently is about the same age as I am, since the mid- 90's music he mentioned was the music I remembered from middle school.
But don't forget the all-pervasive, insidious, evil influence on the radio that was Hootie and the Blowfish, a band far worse than even Bush...
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― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Brits trying to sound American is always a bad idea.

Anyway, they did at least have a couple of tunes that were better than 99 per cent of all other grunge "songs".

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Speaking of Bush Senior or Dubya here?

Anyway, dud.....

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 15 January 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

That "Germoline" tune was alright, as far as antiseptics go.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 15 January 2004 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

If they're not "songs", Geir, what do you call them exactly?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 15 January 2004 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"If there's a better definition of mid-90s post-grunge mediocrity, I'd like to hear it."
- Dishwalla, Live, Collective Soul, Matchbox 20, Filter, Tracy Bonham, Barenaked Ladies, does Smash Mouth count?

"though I think STP were a little bit better (not much, though)."
- I feel like 90% of those who diss STP have never heard "Tiny Music."

― billstevejim, Thursday, 15 January 2004 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

A "song" (as opposed to a song) is something that is really just improvised on top of a guitar riff rather than properly composed. You know, like Pearl Jam...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 15 January 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

If I didn't have to watch their videos I'd like them more. Actually I thought Sixteen Stone was pretty good. Though I never saw how they were trying to be grunge. To me they always sounded like a commercialized version of Catherine Wheel.

Anyone else see the strange resemblence between Gavin Rossdale and Jeremy Irons?

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 15 January 2004 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

This is the point in the thread where I point at Geir and laugh.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 15 January 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

hey!

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 15 January 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I got tricked into seeing the Blue Man Group touring show (which was nothing like their Vegas show), and Tracy Bonham opened. It was kind of sweet, listening to her talk up her new album and about how she'd only play new stuff, and then at the end play "Mother, Mother" just to get someone to listen.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 January 2004 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

But she wasn't as bad as the other opener Venus Hum - two nerds jerking spastically in front of Powerbooks and a singer.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 January 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

two nerds jerking spastically in front of Powerbooks and a singer

Trip-IDM.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 January 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll accept Candlebox and Collective Soul as possible contenders, but Bush were still the biggest lame-os in terms of sheer number of improbable hit singles.

― Nick Mirov (nick), Friday, 16 January 2004 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Trip-IDM.

As in "Venus Hum are the Bush of..." One of the worst bands I've heard for a couple of years, Venus Hum. Dire empty toss.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 January 2004 10:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I like both "Machinehead" and "Art School Girl." (was that the name of it?)

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 16 January 2004 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

Did anyone else know there's a new Bush single? I just found out via flashing banner ad somewhere.

This sort of musical makeover worked three years ago when Silverchair did it with "Straight Lines" (imo, at least), but Bush falls flat on their faces with "Afterlife": http://www.bushofficial.com/reveal.aspx

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 5 July 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

lol not clicking

― janice (surm), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

They're...back? Again?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 August 2011 22:14 (fourteen years ago)

Man, I used to really like Bush.

― Can't Stop the Rop (seandalai), Monday, 15 August 2011 23:17 (fourteen years ago)

seven years pass...

I bleach the sky
Every night
Loaded on wrong
And further from right
Spinning around
Two howling moons
'Cause they're always there
Whatever I do

The river is loaded
I've been there today
Took it some questions
She does me again
I'd die in your arms
If you were dead too
Here comes a lie
We will always be true

The bigger you give bigger you get
We're boss at denial
But best at forget
Cupboard is empty we really need food
Summer is winter and you always knew

I touch your mouth my will is food
Addicted to love I'm addicted to bull-shit
I kill you once I kill you again
We're starving and crude
Welcome my friends to

To the little things that kill
Tearing at my brains again
Oh the little things that kill
Tearing at my brains again

― A functioning gazebo made of Candlebox cassingles (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 February 2019 19:28 (seven years ago)

I didn't realize neural networks had been around since the mid-'90s but there you go.

― A functioning gazebo made of Candlebox cassingles (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 February 2019 19:29 (seven years ago)

three years pass...

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— SNL Hosts Introducing the Musical Guest (@snlhostsintro) September 11, 2022

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 September 2022 01:08 (three years ago)

one month passes...

New album isn't terrible? Really heavy for these guys, a couple of times the guitars reminded me of latter Hum. Rossdale's lyrics are still pretty awful tho.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:25 (three years ago)

one year passes...

revisiting the science of things... this is pretty good space rock!

― ivy., Thursday, 2 November 2023 02:48 (two years ago)

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