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The Passage were a breathtakingly brilliant band from Manchester who were active between 1980 and 1983. Leader Dick Witts was formerly a percussionist in the Halle Orchestra, and the Passage combined a range of synth textures with layered percussion, bells, whispered/spoken/half-sung vocals and the occasional thrashed guitar to create something fantastic and unique. By their third album, Degenerates (Cherry Red,1982) they'd developed their sound extended it with a slightly more electronic feel on the their next and last one, Enflame (1983). Everything is long-deleted, except for a fairly unrepresentative, but not-bad CD retrospective compilation "Seedy".

Having recently re-listened to them a fair bit for the first time for 5 years or so, I'm just staggered by how brilliantly up-to-date they sound.

Does anyone else remember them and have any thoughts/opinions?

Dr. C, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I remember he wrote an angry letter to the NME back in their 'political' period, and the editorial answer consisted of lame jokes based on his name. It was a long time ago, I may not remember correctly.

dave q, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I like the Passage's Cherry Red material a lot. My favourite moment probably XOYO, which I guess is predictable because I generally love the Big Pop Hit (even if it wasn't a hit). I also really like Freckles. Their habit of following all the speaky / whispery stuff with a whacking great big CHORUS was a winner.

I never heard their earlier stuff (on Object Music?) though... some people I knew swore by it and said it was their best material. Were they right, or were they pulling some labyrinthine music snob trick on me?

Tim, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Breathtakingly brilliant is a little pushing it...

Finest moment, the 1978 EP 'New Love Songs', especially the first song 'Love Song' - 'I love you/cos I need a cunt/I love you/To use you back and front' - an early, possibly misguided, attempt at shock via the incest motif, that works cos it's so damn nasty. Didn't go down very well, though. Don't think folk understood its subtleties (and yes, there were some).

The rest of the single is as good an early Fall pastiche mixed in with rudimentary electronica as even the Fall were achieving back then. It's spiteful, vicious, short and far punkier than virtually anything else around. The misogyny on 'Slit Machine' works scarily well. (I'm listening to it right now.)

By the time of their first album, they'd turned into Eyeless In Gaza surely (no, I don't mean literally)? XOYO is OK in its own spirited way, but it's a (spit) pop single - and the Passage were once far, far better than that.

Their other Object single 'About Time' is also damn fine.

Thanks for making me listen to them again. It's always periodically very refreshing, like hearing an early Scars single or indeed 'Witch Trials'.

Jerry, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Passage! One of the greatest, yet least known of 80s groups. I bought their fantastic debut album, 'Pindrop', on Object Records, in, I think, 1980 after hearing one track on Peel. The album (slightly murkier, more introverted and mysterious sounding than later releases) was like nothing else being made at the time. Totally electronic, spooky, intelligent, political, passionate as hell, like Laurie Anderson crossed with The Fall.

'Degenerates' and 'Enflame' are also great records, Brechtian politics melded to angular, caustic lyrics. The Passage were very unEnglish in their willingness to write about sex and politics. Check out songs like 'Angleland' and 'Wave'.

Witts started as tympanist for the Halle Orchestra, and now writes books (he published a critical survey of the history of tbe Arts Council a couple of years ago). I've met him a couple of times. I saw The Passage live in Edinburgh. Witts performed in a blood-spattered white T shirt. There were about fifteen people in the audience.

In fact, since Cherry Red have their back catalogue and I have a label with Cherry Red, I should really get some re-releases going through Analog Baroque. Hmmm...

Momus, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i have never heard of them, but they sound interesting. i would be a re-issue i think

gareth, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

be=buy

gareth, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I could re-issue you too, Gareth, if you're analogue and not digital and originate before 1984!

Momus, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i originate from before 1984 but am digital unfortunately. rumours about my bionic arm are unfounded

gareth, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I just remembered that I was singing another excellent Passage song to myself while walking down the street about two days ago: @th Day (pronounced Eighth Day). 'A very fair rake-off to buy me a fence... Respect my stand, hands off my helping hand...'

Some of their best work was for Peel sessions. Around the time of the second album they did a session with a girl singing instead of Dick Witts. The songs took on this melancholy, poignant atmosphere: 'This time, and then tomorrow, liberty!'

I think you'd have to see them as libertarians in a peculiarly Protestant mode, like Quakers or Methodist radicals or something. Witts was obsessed with Manchester police chief James Anderton to an unhealthy degree.

Momus, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I never did manage to track down that debut album. Roll on the reissues....

Jerry, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Whoo! Lots of opinions! Side 2 of "Degenerates" is my fave. Will put some more detailed thoughts down later.

I saw them once at Slough College, and the support band (local punx) poured beer in Andy Wilson's synth which blew it up. So he sort of skulked at the back playing out-of-tune thrash guitar whilst Dick Witts lead them through a venomous, very pissed off set. Anyone remember the song "Drugface"? Starts off with the vocal line "The drug fits the face, the drug fits the face, the drug..." repeated for ages before a squelching sequencer barges in. Fantastic.

The Eyeless in Gaza thing, Jerry. No! they shared a label that's all. Passage - as Momus says - angular, vitriolic. EIG - wet, weak, gloomy.

Dr. C, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

But I'm into weak, wet and gloomy. All right, I admit it, I'm into Eyeless in Gaza and like always I CARE NOT WHAT YOU THINK.

I remember hearing about the Passage thanks to Momus mentions here and there, so I'm actually glad for this thread. Reissue, repackage, repackage...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So how about more on this soppy Eyeless in Gaza stuff? I was tempted to drop $10 on a used compilation of theirs, but decided against it.

For what it's worth, SpinArt (in the US) has reissued the Tracey Thorn solo album, as well as the Marine Girls retrospective. Ah, very nice. They might've reissued more as well - not entirely sure.

And how about some Monochrome Set recommendations? This 2CD retrospective is a bit grating @ times.

David Raposa, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Eyeless In Gaza were like the Smashing Pumpkins of their day - right Ned?

Jerry, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

debut alb = the best one; i have it on faded tape

witts = witts = witts: a knobhed, but in a good way...

mark s, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

On a related note/ same era, does anyone know anything from a band called Fashion, as Cherry Red are about to reissue this:

Fashion

The Height Of Fashion

CDMRED 193

Cherry Red Records are proud to announce the very overdue reissue of this cult album by the highly original and innovative technological funksters, Fashion. The band moved the musical boundaries with their unique blend of synths, bass lines and infectious pop in the early 1980's. The CD features all their best loved tracks from their 'heyday' with the cult singles "Streetplayer- Mechanik", "Move On", "Love Shadow" and "Something In Your Picture" included. Other essential Fashion tracks on the CD are "Do You Wanna Make Love", "White Stuff" and "Love Shadow Smokey Dialogue". Fashion still enjoy a strong reputation for their pioneering recordings that paved the way for many other artists in the 80's. They together with cult German record producer, Zeus B Held made recordings that influenced many recording giants including Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Trevor Horn, Depeche Mode and many more. Their music still sounds fresh today and will appeal to a whole new audience.

1/ Move On 2/ Love Shadow 3/ Streetplayer Mechanik 4/ Dressed To Kill 5/ You Only Left Your Picture 6/ Something In Your Picture 7/ It’s Alright 8/ White Stuff (Short Cut) 9/ Do You Wanna Make Love? 10/ Slow Blue 11/ Mutant Love 12/ Love Shadow Smokey Dialogue 13/ Street Mechanik 14/ Do You Wanna Make Love (At 5.00am?) 15/ You Only Left Your Picture (Reggae Reprise)

DJ Martian, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Eyeless In Gaza were like the Smashing Pumpkins of their day - right Ned?

Ha! Touche. But did Martyn Bates ever shave his head and go into ten- minute-rants at festival shows about 'how yer CHURCHES abandon you and your TEACHERS abandon you...'? ;-)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Fashion were briefly a medium sized noise at the fag end of the New Romantic era 81-82. I think they were a Birmingham funk band who appropriated the trappings of new romanticism i.e synths, eye liner, staring out of windows moodily etc.

They had one fairly big Lp Fabrique #12 Uk charts and a handful of singles which scraped the top 50. Love shadow is well worth seeking out esp on 12", featuring Gina B (?) who sounds a lot like Christina (ah, what happened to her??), I can't vouch for the rest though I suspect it would sound quite dated. After that they went on a more funk rock route and vanished into obscurity (I think).

Billy Dods, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Fashion were awful. I still have their first three singles somewhere, held onto in the forlorn hope someone might give me money for them. The offer is still open.

Jerry, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Fashion - ponytailed, frilly collared new-rom fools IIRC.

Billy - are you referring to Gina X? There's a fantastic Gina X track "Nice Mover" (1979) Andrew Weatherall compilation, 9 o'clock Drop, which I've bleated about enough on these pages already.

Mark S - even the vinyl version of the debut album, Pindrop, sounds like it's on a faded tape! Not particularly well recorded or mastered or pressed or ... something. Good opening track, Fear ("Tell us who owns this place...")

More on EIG? I'd spend the $10 on the comp if I were you, David G, unless it's your last $10. Worth hearing as a snapshot of a sort of early 80's rustic synth-folk innocence. The first couple of albums aren't bad ("Photographs as Memories" and "Caught In Flux") IIRC, but later, slight more bland albums like "Rust Red September" aren't up to much. Martyn Bates's voice will eventually drive you nuts, too! For some reason I seemed to see this bunch live about 6 times in the early/mid 80's, with bands like The Nightingales, PAssage, Microdisney, Felt.

This is a momentous thread as I somehow like something that Momus likes! Wow! Totally agree on the stuff with the girl singer, some of which was on "For All And None", - good contrast with hissing Dick and Andy Wilson's lugubrious drone. If you have any influence at Cherry Red, get 'em to put out "Degenerates" and " Enflame" ! They seem to release plenty of Oi and football-related rubbish, so surely the Passage deserve to be re-released. If they could get the rights to "Pindrop" and "For All and None" too, I would be ecstatic. These two need remixing though. In fact, you could remix them, Momus!

Anyway, enough of this flight of fancy. Seriously if anyone knows of mint vinyl copies if "Pindrop", "Enflame" and especially "For All and None" I would be keen to buy at a good price!

Dr. C, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Dr C it is indeed Gina X, my grasp of the alphabet is a bit slim, at least I knew it wasn't Gina G.
She also did a version of drive my car in which she reveals the German dominatrix subtext which is missing in the original.

Billy Dods, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
BOUGHT BOTH OBJECT MUSIC SINGLES AND THOUGHT THEY WERE BRILLIANT WAS INTO THEM UNTIL THEY SPLIT. LOOKING BACK AT THEM THEY WERE VERY STYLISH AND HAVNT DATED.I USED TO WRITE TO DICK WITTS AND I WOULD ALWAYS GET A REPLY...USUALLY ON B.B.C T.V.HEADED PAPER AND A FEW FROM WHEN THEY TOURED IN AMERICA.DICK HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOUR AND GAVE ME THE NAME WILL/WONT. I ONLY GOT TO SEE THE PASSAGE ONCE AT THE RITZ CLUB ON WHITWORTH ST MANCHESTER. IT WAS ALSO BEING RECORDED FOR A 'PEEL SESSION' THEY HAD PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT AND STOPPED MID-WAY THROUGH 'MAN O' WAR' TO GET IT RIGHT. LISTEN TO THE POWER AND BEAUTY IN 'THE GREAT REFUSAL' ON FOR ALL AND NONE..DICK I HOPE YOU'RE STILL BANGING AWAY ON THE KETTLE D

WILL WOODS, Sunday, 25 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well I finally managed to re-buy Enflame and For All and None. (Why did I ever let them go in the first place?) Wierder than I remembered and totally unique, surely the Passage's albums are due for proper re- issues.

Dr. C, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
"Seedy - The best of the Passage" is out this month via Cherry Red Records.

Mic, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It's been out for a few years! Unless a 'new' version of it has popped up.

Dr. C, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It is being repromoted by Cherry Red. Probably due to increase interest in post-punk era. Therefore "this repromotion" will encourage independent record stores and the music chain stores - to order it in.

DJ Martian, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Does anyone have any of the Peel Sessions recorded? I've been looking diligently but so far all I've found is one song, which shares some lyrics with @th Day but musically is a much different piece.

Scott Gibbons, Friday, 3 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I know someone who might still have the peel session they did between 'Degenerates' and 'Enflame' I'll ask. There is also at least one Kid Jensen session, 1983 IIRC, - they did Dogstar and Angleland + one other.

Dr. C, Friday, 3 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

saw the passage once at ULU.supported by the three johns..great band.I know Dick Witts lives in Brighton now as I lived near him. Cherry Red...Reissue those CDS pronto..For All and None was my fav. can anyone mp3 em for me??

DarrenS, Sunday, 5 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I seem to remember a song title"Form and void"???? Imay be wrong though.or 'First to Last" quite a long intro (peel-live in concert) anybody come across this get in touch, the intro has been in my head for years now.de de de de de,de de de de de,do do do do do,de de de de de.de de de de de and so on. some body get a sight going i've got some contributions. Honest.

will/woulds, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i'll happily put up a new passage site but i need info and pics..i may find some in my collection of sounds/nme/mms from way back...heres hoping..any contributions? pleases send em in and I'll start work..does anyone know what was on the old passage fan page??

DarrenS, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Anybody know anything about a 1995 album called Stuntman?

, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

This Lp is NOT by the same group.

dagga36, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Pls. anyone recall the album with Passage song goes like this: "it's 3 in the morning/ it's always 3 in the morning / shave your head/ make despair an event/ take it out on your friends / shave your head" etc. been looking for years & can't find it. thankx

Uncle Ho, Thursday, 13 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It's 'Shave Your Head' off 'For All and None' (Night and Day, 1981).

Dr. C, Friday, 14 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
I didn't think anyone remembered the Passage! I first heard the song 'Fear' on the John Peel show in late 1980. I was blown away by it. There really was nothing like it at the time (and still isn't, really); the tribal drums, spacey string synth. After that, I had to own everything they put out. Unfortunately, I never did acquire the original Object singles, but I have just about everything after that. I too received a few letters from Dick Witts back in the early 80's. Great sense of humour, and I really appreciated him taking the time to write to me. My favourite LP's are Pindrop & For All & None. I suppose the only thing marring them slightly is the production - Pindrop was recorded in a 4 track studio in 3 days! The later records were still very good, but the first two have something very special about them.

Thanks Dr. C for starting this thread.

Ian, Thursday, 4 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

A Passage Thread! - Fuckin BRILLIANT !

Got one of their early singles, but don't remember liking it much - 'Pindrop' and all the subsequent work, though, I found absolutely stunning. I always envied DW's ability to somehow find a working balance between Critical Sharpness & Cynicism and Interested Wonder - he used to crop up on BBC2 in 'The Oxford Road Show' at some point, I remember him doing a 'rap performance' to review a fanzine called 'VoodooVoodoo', playing some percussion over a drum machine! And it's true, the music itself is a very odd mix of elements and complexities, almost impossible to describe/imagine (but that's a good crack at it earlier). I think they don't sound dated because they were quite unlike anything else around at the time - and I've never heard anything like them since, either (though somebody please tell me if there is). I loved the fact that Witts was able to re-work the same bass line across different songs, like some baroque composer exploring the same 'theme' in a series of pieces.... I don't think I've ever heard work anywhere else that is oozing with such a potent mixture of threatening darkness, thin-lipped vitriol, angular intelligence, sparkling wit, textural complexity & variety, tightly controlled nervous energy, and archly-self-aware downright cleverness & humour... (you can tell I like them, right?)

Great lyrics too, really encapsulating and impressionistic - 'I don't need love - I don't need sex - I'll walk the floor when nothing's left...'

PLEASE SOMEBODY CD re-issue the albums, and add the singles on as extra tracks! (And DON'T change the cover designs - even they were brilliant, with the constant use of Black/White/Red theme throughout.)

My copy of 'Pindrop' is also on fading tape (aaarrrgghh), 'For All And None' & 'Degenerates' on vinyl, Enflame on pre-rec cassette (with 'Degenerates' minus one track on the other side), and also a few singles on vinyl (Devil's & Angels, Wave 12", Taboos 12"). A flexi-disc with a version of 'Born Every Minute' on one side (and Blancmange's 'Living on the Ceiling' on the other!) was actually given away with some pop music paper in 81/82(?) as well...'Record Mirror' ?

I thought that 'Seedy' comp was lacking in some of their best tracks (it would be though, wouldn't it) - but at least it had 'Sharp Tongue' & 'Carnal' on it.

I DO have that J.Peel session they did (in '80/'81?) with the female singer on cassette somewhere - think I missed a bit of one of the songs though, fuckit. As far as I can recall they did 'Devils & Angels' + 'Shave Your Head' + AnotherTrackFromAll&NoneWhoseNameICan'tRecall + .....aaarghh i can't remember. So I'm sure I've got it (or most of it) - what now?

Ray Manston, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

OK - I've dug the old C90 out - the JP session with female singer - tracks were:

'Dark Times' + 'Devils & Angels' + 'Shave Your Head' + 'Watching You Dance' and it was this last one that I missed the first 1/3 of grrrrrrr

Ray M, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

would you be able to mp3s these tracks and up them to the kazaa network?? i have all of the seedy cd in mp3 plus most of the last three lps to share

dagga36, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I like the way this old thread keeps popping up - it proves my theory that there are still dozens of Passage obsessives holed up around the place.

Apparently Cherry Red doesn't have the rights to For All and None so don't expect a re-release from them. In fact Seedy is all we're likely to get on CD.

Whilst the *sound* of The Passage is pretty unique (question : was Witts ever a prog-rocker pre-Passage?)his modus operandi reminds me of Roy Wood and Paddy MacAloon. The combination of dense layers of ideas bashing into each other, unexpected melodic twists and (most importantly) a sense of a *big picture* is something these three share. In Wood's case the bubbling layers are pop hooks, in MacAloon's a mix of pop icons/imagary and stylised romance, whilst Witts fires volleys of *information* from the dark side of sex/love/politics. Just a thought.

Dr. C, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

How weird is this?Thought we'd disappeared into the bottomless pit of early 80's never-made-its , but yes...we were rather special if you say so.I'm living in Ibiza, present a radio show - balearia on Cadena 100 (Spanish commercial network) www.clubibizaradio (embarassing home page nowt to do wi' me)mon-fri 2200-2300 CET- and still live and breath music and clubs.Not heard from Dick Witts for years, bastard sold my guitar for smack and owes me money...he wrote a book about Nico which I never read.Sadly it all got very messy, I was only 16 when I joined and was out of my depth with Dick's personality problems, but we did make some great music, most of which I still have somewhere...sounded pretty dated last time I checked tho' .. the old memory's not in good shape these days, living through the 80's in Manchester wasn't great for the health, -Dark Times and all that - but I live to tell the tales, if only I could remember them... Should've known Momus 'd keep the flag flying - came up to me in the street in Brixton once and asked me to make music with him, but I never followed through.Good on yer Nick. I'm touched and dare I say proud to know people still listen and enjoy- thanks!

andy wilson, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Wow - great to hear from you Andy! Sorry about describing yr singing as a 'lugubrious drone'!!

(More proof of the power of ILM when it comes down to hunting down Lucan-esque members of yr favourite band. Especially if they're from Manchester - Mike Finney has been in touch after I posted about The Distractions).

Dr. C, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

“Taboos” and “Taboo Dub” stands out with its medieval drum terror and dark turrets and feel of naked flames. Also recall that Peel broadcast a live piece by them – say 4/5 songs. I have it somewhere in a plastic bag in my parents’ house along with The Farmer’s Boys live on the other side. The free flexi-disc I well recall as I do DW’s appearances on a yoof culture prog on BBC2 in which he did a type of rap about new youth mags/fanszines on the desperately appropriated cherubic culture spectrum at the time. Backstage in Dublin at Trinity College in 1983, Morrissey told me that DW was “horrible” and that he (Morrissey) liked Microdisney. Back to The Passage I also liked “LonDon” immensely. Other than that, the lead pencil tones of the “Taboos” 12 inch single with its red border are sketchily deeply on my appreciative memory.

John Fleming, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ahhh! the Passage.what a band!..good to here you are still doing it Andy..one of Britains finest unsung bands..first heard the band on Peel and through a desire to find out more on this intriging character on ORS by the name of DW..finest moment without doubt was "for all and none"..but others were up there too..who can forget "the half of it..twats/cissies"..both twisted tales of hatred and deviancey (sp?)..never got on with "pindrop" due to its wilful obscure mix. what we wanted was to read DW's "texts".. saw them live and was shocked by the fact that DW's main keyboards were Casio..at the time asssociated with home keyboards but in retro- spect perfect for the "natural sounds that the songs needed... (strings,piano,horns,etc..)get those reissues sorted ASAP.all classic LPs (and include the texts..I had to send off for those back in the 80s and well worth a read! I also remember going to my first job in 1982 wearing a home made passage t-shirt..a stencil I made from the siluoetttes on the lyricsheet from "for all & none" featuring Andys magnificent "oakey" fringe!!! hope you guys still get something out of the cherry red deal,tho' I doubt it..Seedy had a bad choice of tunes, i think..where was "The Great Refusal" fer christs sake!!:-). finally last time I saw DW was in a fetish club in Brighton..(1993) (shades of the Taboos cover..)where he had since written some books, was now Richard,sporting a fetching grey "tintin" haircut and his "partner" for the night was an mid change transexual!!! although I didn't have the front to ask him about the Passage..I felt this just summed up the pent up angst and sexually politics that the passage ALWAYS used in their material.... Good work Andy,Dick and Joey!!! Andy,if you can remember and/or want to elaborate..I'd love to hear what happened in those "Dark Times!;-) seeya! JA

james anderton, Sunday, 21 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dr. C - we never got to the bottom of that 'A Certain Way To Go' = ACR issue?

Ray Manston, Friday, 26 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
Does anyone have a cassette/Mp3 file of "All or nothing"That i could beg/steal/borrow. Fave Passage gig"The Beach Club"1981 with the girl singer.Brilliant Gig!

Iain, Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"For All and None"I meant. The "Joey Holts" has kicked in

IAIN., Saturday, 10 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
If anyone's still listening, go here:
http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/passage

Keith Nuttall, Thursday, 24 October 2002 07:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm there! Waiting for the rest.

Rezmole, Thursday, 24 October 2002 10:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Details of forthcoming The Passage re-issues, Source:
Darla Coming Soon

PASSAGE, THE BBC Sessions cd $13.50
LTM (UK)
COMING 3/3/03
One of the most undervalued of the post-punk bands to emerge from Manchester, The Passage were active between 1978 and 1983, producing four cult albums and a slew of singles. BBC Sessions traces the convoluted history of The Passage through their several radio broadcasts. The first John Peel Session, from November 1980, features short-stay vocalist Lizzy Johnson, and catches the band in transition. The second and third Peel sets, from October 1981 and May 1982 respectively, feature two otherwise unrecorded tracks in Rod of Iron and Form and Void. The collection also includes the very last studio recordings made by The Passage, in the shape of a Janice Long session recorded in February 1983 with their aid of a brass section and harp player. Included is another unrecorded song, Sing the Praise. The Passage recorded a total of four albums: Pindrop (1980), For All and None (1981), Degenerates (1982) and Enflame (1983), as well as the several BBC Sessions. All will be reissued on CD format for the first time by LTM over the next few months. The discs have been digitally remastered with extra tracks and the sleevenotes feature a detailed history of the band.


PASSAGE, THE Pindrop cd $13.50
LTM (UK)
COMING 3/3/03
One of the most undervalued of the post-punk bands to emerge from Manchester, The Passage were active between 1978 and 1983, producing four cult albums and a slew of singles. Pindrop, their dense first album, originally appeared in 1980 on the Object label and has been unavailable for two decades. Here, Passage mainman Richard ‘Dick’ Witts performs most of the material. Stand-out tracks include Watching You Dance, Troops Out and the powerful 16 Hours. Although Pindrop was recorded in less than a week in an 8 track studio, its rough edges and tense, claustrophobic atmosphere all underpin the central lyrical theme, which is fear. The eight bonus tracks include all material from their first two ultra-rare eps, featuring ex-Fall bassist Tony Friel. The Passage went on to record another three albums, namely For All and None (1981), Degenerates (1982) and Enflame (1983), as well as several BBC Sessions. All will be reissued on CD format by LTM over the next few months. Pindrop has been digitally remastered with extra tracks and the sleevenotes feature a detailed history of the band. Reviews: “With Pindrop, The Passage can be accepted as major. It’s a work of disciplined, intellectual aggression, frantic emotions and powerfully idiomatic musicality. It’s as shocking a beautiful nightmare, as stormy and aware a debut as Unknown Pleasures. It’s the shock of the new – new shades, textures, noises, pulses, atmospheres and energies” (Paul Morley, NME, 1980)

PASSAGE, THE Degenerates cd $13.50
LTM (UK)
COMING 5/12/03
One of the most undervalued of the post-punk bands to emerge from Manchester, The Passage were active between 1978 and 1983, producing four cult albums and a slew of singles. Degenerates, their third album, originally appeared in 1982 on Cherry Red. Here, Passage mainman Richard ‘Dick’ Witts is joined by guitarist Andrew Wilson and short-stay drummer Paul Mahoney. Stand-out tracks include the well-known single XoYo (almost a chart hit!), Born Every Minute and Love Is As. The seven bonus tracks include the non-album singles Wave and Taboos, as well as rare b-side tracks such as Angleland and Animal In Me. Reviews: “Degenerates is the most complete pop record I’ve heard for three years. Dick Witts is the investigative ferret you hope will never turn up if you’ve got something to hide” (Melody Maker, 5.82); “Degenerates isn’t standard pop, but intelligent and radical music” (The Leveller, 5/82); “Witts is in danger of becoming the Chic of the avant-garde, and that’s intended as a compliment” (Time Out, 5/82); “The sophisticated subversion is mostly fabulous, fascinating stuff” (Smash Hits, 5/82) The Passage recorded a total of four albums: Pindrop (1980), For All and None (1981), Degenerates (1982) and Enflame (1983), as well as several BBC Sessions. All will be reissued on CD format for the first time by LTM over the next few months. The discs have been digitally remastered with extra tracks and the sleevenotes feature a detailed history of the band.


PASSAGE, THE Enflame cd $13.50
LTM (UK)
COMING 5/12/03
One of the most undervalued of the post-punk bands to emerge from Manchester, The Passage were active between 1978 and 1983, producing four cult albums and a slew of singles. Enflame, their fourth and final album, originally appeared in 1983 on Cherry Red. Here, Passage mainman Richard ‘Dick’ Witts is joined by guitarist Andrew Wilson and drummer Joe McKechnie. Stand-out tracks include Sharp Tongue (also a single), Horseplay and the powerful Sunburn. The song Drugface was later heavily sampled by Moby for his 1991 single Drug Fits the Face. The six bonus live tracks are taken from a powerful in-concert set recorded for BBC Radio One at the Ritz in Manchester in October 1982 Reviews: “This album exists to provoke questions, and the Passage are capable of composing a melody or two, and catchy ones at that” (NME); “Quite superb – a rumbling drum swing collides with spikey pop electronics. Undoubtedly the most successful fusion of avant-garde and dance styles” (Time Out); “Brilliant and uncompromising” (Masterbag) The Passage recorded a total of four albums: Pindrop (1980), For All and None (1981), Degenerates (1982) and Enflame (1983), as well as several BBC Sessions. All will be reissued on CD format for the first time by LTM over the next few months. The discs have been digitally remastered with extra tracks and the sleevenotes feature a detailed history of the band.


PASSAGE, THE For All and None cd $13.50
LTM (UK)
COMING 5/12/03
One of the most undervalued of the post-punk bands to emerge from Manchester, The Passage were active between 1978 and 1983, producing four cult albums and a slew of singles. For All and None, their rare second album, originally appeared in 1981 on their own Night and Day label. Here, Passage mainman Richard ‘Dick’ Witts is joined by guitarist Andrew Wilson and drummer Joe McKechnie. Stand-out tracks include Dark Times, Hip Rebels and Lon Don. The four bonus tracks comprise all tracks from the two ultra rare Night and Day singles Troops Out and the superb Devils and Angels, the latter featuring short-stay vocalist Lizzy Johnson. Reviews: “Dense and irregular” (NME); “Easily among the front runners for album of the year – a varied collection of melodic songs with both tension and depth plus lyrics that successfully avoid the twin pitfalls of either preaching or propaganda” (The Face); The Passage recorded a total of four albums: Pindrop (1980), For All and None (1981), Degenerates (1982) and Enflame (1983), as well as several BBC Sessions. All will be reissued on CD format for the first time by LTM over the next few months. The discs have been digitally remastered with extra tracks and the sleevenotes feature a detailed history of the band.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 11 January 2003 20:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

..is DR C looking forward to these CDs

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 13 January 2003 14:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

when is a succession of more than five singles, say, not considered a "slew"?

mark s (mark s), Monday, 13 January 2003 14:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

is Dr.C looking forward to 'em? does a bear et cet...? *winky face*

Jeff W, Monday, 13 January 2003 14:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hey, he's not the only one y'know.... :)

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 02:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

To rephrase....

:)

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 02:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

LTM never fail to amaze

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 02:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hurrah for The Passage, back in fashion! Hurrah for the LTM / Darla rereleases, courtesy of that nice man James Neiss! Hurrah for the new website, Dancing Through Dark Times! Hurrah (eventually) for the essay I've promised to write for them! Hurrah that Andy Wilson was on this thread, beaming in from Ibiza! And hurrah for Dick Witts, who, on September 11th 1999, came to a little show I gave in Borders, Oxford Street, London, and posed for a photo with me holding up a decorating book!

http://www.demon.co.uk/momus/momuswitts.jpeg

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

So how come Dr. C hasn't posted yet? Has he exploded in sheer happiness?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

HAIRY ARMS

zemko (bob), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 11:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(5/12/03 is this uk style dates, so december yes? or retarded american style?)

zemko (bob), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 11:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dr.C's in DanPerryville at the mo' i think. but i'm sure we can keep this thread going until he gets back

*stares out the window*

zebedee, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 13:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The Passage info is taken from the darla website, therefore American !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 13:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've gone off them now.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 16 January 2003 17:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I figured. I hate MBV now too.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 18:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm planning to go off them as soon as they become more popular.

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 16 January 2003 18:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

yay yay yay!
I'm excited too! I learned about The Passage last semester when I did a synth-pop specialty radio show - but Degenerates is the only thing I've ever heard by them. Clarke B. got me the LP for Christmas so I've been enjoying that, but I'm excited to see all the other albums getting re-released as well (along with bonus tracks!).
Hurrah for LTM/Darla.

Emily (emily), Thursday, 16 January 2003 19:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I went off them before Dr C.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 16 January 2003 19:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like them again now it's Friday and I'm back home.

The BBC sessions one looks good, and I'll prolly get Pindrop as don't have it any more. I see LTM are also releasing Crawling Chaos's magnificently stupid 'The Gas Chair'. This was one review :

In the NME Adam Sweeting wrote: “They played so badly for so long that a phone call to McWhirter and his Book of Records would surely have been received favourably. Ineffectual doodlings on guitar and keyboards became ends in themselves. A guest singer stood at the microphone and coughed for several minutes. Nobody danced or even twitched a leg. The bloke at the mixing desk read the Evening Standard and someone next to me asked the time before falling asleep. Anyone who needs this garbage is probably already dead.”

They were great!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 17 January 2003 09:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

May I be the last to say

'FUCK THE NME!!!!'

(if they still exist).

Momus (Momus), Saturday, 18 January 2003 23:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

when the hell did adam sweeting write for the nme?

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 19 January 2003 01:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dunno - but I just cut n pasted this from the LTM site. They might be wrong.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Sunday, 19 January 2003 15:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Good to see the interest in the passage and the upcoming re-releases.
I've enjoyed digging out all the old tapes -radio sessions etc [good job as it took sometime]. It'll be interesting to hear what people make of the less familiar stuff.'whatcha mean that'll be all of it then!'
joe

joe mckechnie, Monday, 20 January 2003 20:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Holy shit - we only need Witts to post and we've got all three!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 20 January 2003 20:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The re-release program should be titled 'This we will repeat for the hard of hearing'.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 12:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What song was that from? Was it Clear as Crystal from Enflame? It's bugging me!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 14:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yes.

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 21 January 2003 17:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
I remember a fantastic gig from my time in Manchester, with The Passage and The Nightingales (another neglected giant of a band) on the same bill. A PR cock-up meant few knew it was on and about 50 of us saw Dick Witts rave on and on about whomsoever made the mistake with advertising - however, the adrenaline pumping through his veins made him a fantastic stage presence that night.

Peter Collins, Friday, 14 February 2003 17:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Anyone got any of re-releases yet? I bought Pindrop yesterday - 14 extra tracks including the first 2 Object EPs and a 6-track Piccadilly Radio session. Pindrop sounds a lot more accessible than i remembered, but still not like anything else ever. The second Tony Friel-era EP is utter genius. Haven't got onto the radio session yet.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I hope to finally get some of these tomorrow at Amoeba...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Do so!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Assuming Amoeba keeps their LTM rereleases in stock as they usually do, it will be no problem! (After that, I need them early Simple Minds reissues...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

LTM has gone crazy recently. I want him to stop so I can catch up!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Okay, so -- I did in fact get all five Passage discs (and the first six Simple Minds, but anyway). And while I have yet to listen to them, I read the accompanying essay reprinted in each CD's booklet and note with delight and amusement that these selections upthread from Momus:

One of the greatest, yet least known of 80s groups. I bought their fantastic debut album, 'Pindrop', on Object Records, in, I think, 1980 after hearing one track on Peel. The album (slightly murkier, more introverted and mysterious sounding than later releases) was like nothing else being made at the time. Totally electronic, spooky, intelligent, political, passionate as hell, like Laurie Anderson crossed with The Fall.

'Degenerates' and 'Enflame' are also great records, Brechtian politics melded to angular, caustic lyrics. The Passage were very unEnglish in their willingness to write about sex and politics. Check out songs like 'Angleland' and 'Wave'.

Witts started as tympanist for the Halle Orchestra, and now writes books (he published a critical survey of the history of tbe Arts Council a couple of years ago). I've met him a couple of times. I saw The Passage live in Edinburgh. Witts performed in a blood-spattered white T shirt. There were about fifteen people in the audience.

I think you'd have to see them as libertarians in a peculiarly Protestant mode, like Quakers or Methodist radicals or something. Witts was obsessed with Manchester police chief James Anderton to an unhealthy degree.

...were quoted almost verbatim. Hurrah for Mr. James Nice of LTM doing some net scrounging/lurking here, but please speak up and tell us more about what you want to reissue on LTM. And mention ILX by name! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 June 2003 03:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

James Nice lurks here? JAMES YOU ARE THE REISSUE GOD

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 2 June 2003 04:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Blimey - no holding back Ned as he hoovers up the Passage's body of work. I shall buy the BBC sessions in a week or so, but will stick with beloved vinyl for the rest.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 2 June 2003 08:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I'm finally listening to Pindrop. My goodness what a strange (and wonderful) album.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It is. I'm playing it constantly at the moment - I'd regarded it as the least essential of their albums, but maybe it's the best? The *sound* of the whole thing is amazing - the atmosphere is so unsettling, yet there is definitely some great pop ideas lurking there - 'Carnal', 'Troops Out'. I first heard Pindrop in the summer of 81 and the opening track 'Fear' still has *exactly* the same effect as it did back then - a stark 'what the f*ck is going on here' feeling as those drums rumble out of the speakers and Witts menaces. The keyboard sounds! I have to get a sample of the opening sound on '2711' for use with my own band! I wonder what keybds he used - no-one has ever come close to most of the tones and textures they came up with. The Tony Friel era stuff on the Cd is also grebt - 'Taking My Time' particularly - I love the way the cello comes out of nowhere at the end. Also the Stuart James session - a much more clean n conventional sound, but really powerful.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 13 June 2003 06:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh I forgot to say - latest from LTM : http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/ltmnews.html

Quando Quango and Artery coming up later in the year!! - along with shitloads of other good stuff. A NEW album by LUDUS!! My goodness!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 13 June 2003 06:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I saw two the Passage LP's in a 2nd hand shop yesterday, v. reasonably priced. Reading this thread I think I'll return to buy them asap.

willem (willem), Friday, 13 June 2003 07:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Quando Quango and Artery coming up later in the year!!"

Artery were brilliant so I'm looking forward to that one.

Quando Quango 'though.... I remember the name but I haven't got anything by them and can't seem to place them. What were they like Dr. C?

Oh and are you going to see Ari Up at Camden Underworld next thursday???

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 13 June 2003 07:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hi Stew! QQ were ace I reckon, although no-one else seems to like them. They featured Mike Pickering and were a sort of more commercial, more electro version of ACR with less gloom. Genius is prob. the best known track - early House, very Hacienda 1983 & so on... I love the album too.

Artery were a wierd bunch - I can't remember the name of the singer. What was it? Ah - Mark Gouldthorpe? I hope LTM will re-release 'One Afternoon In A Hot Air Balloon' too.

Ari-up : I saw the other thread. Probably not, as i have a darts match to play. If it's cancelled then possibly. Enjoy it!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 13 June 2003 07:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i'm quite keen on the upcoming BeMusic productions compilation LTM are doing..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Pigs and battleships is pretty good, but nothing on it is reaches the splendour of Love tempo. Do LTM reissues have bonus tracks, remixes etc? Cos' then it would be worth investing in a copy.

Incidentally it probably has the worst sleeve for anything released on Factory, Peter Saville must have been on his holiday's.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 13 June 2003 16:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Do they have bonus tracks! I have yet to see the LTM reissue without bonus tracks, I think, and that's all to the good. James Nice believes in value for money, that's for dang sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 June 2003 16:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

And continuing my listens, For All and None is pretty damn good as well -- "Photo Romance" is my favorite from that one, that's one wonderfully weird and grand song, as is "Do the Bastinado" -- while Degenerates is currently doing my head in. "Xoyo" is SO fucked up...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 June 2003 20:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I reckon the QQ LTM reissue will have all the singles and b-sides added on, Billy, they usually do.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 14 June 2003 09:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Xoyo" is the only song of theirs I've heard, but from it I put a star next to the passage on my to-get list.

A Nairn (moretap), Sunday, 15 June 2003 01:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Here's the info on the Quando Quango release :

http://home.planet.nl/~frankbri/ltm2360.html

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 14:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
i've discovered lots of good music after reading about it first on ilm, so when i saw a copy of 'degenerates' by the passage for a pound(!) i remembered this thread and bought it.
and i just dont get it. this is one of the worst records i've ever heard. incredibly dated keyboard sounds, terrible singing with that 80s 'must speak some of the lines cos they'll sound more meaningful n stuff'. its like they want to be omd but wouldnt dare do anything so pop, so act all selfconsciously weird instead. ugh.

are all their records like this, or is this one of those you needed to be there at the time things?

joni, Friday, 29 August 2003 09:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh my. Amazon kept recommending that I buy stuff by the Passage and I read up on them and AMG-ed and stuff and last week I got Degenerates and it is exactly exactly my cup of tea. I was completely struck by how un-dated it sounds, XoYo is Favourite Song Ever at the moment, it's all beetlebrowed and whirry and things and I cannot wait to purchase the other three. And the sleeves are really ace too.

Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

fck i just heard pindrop for the first time in eons and its fantastic. i have some baggage there, sure, but, uh, oh, i dunno joni. can't be rational...ned! help! ;-)

xpost: thanks alex. does it really go "xoyo triple x sex mosaics?"

gaz (gaz), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think it does, acely. The Passage maybe nudge past Disco Inferno as Without-ILM-I-Would've-NEVER-KNOWN gleamy gem now.

Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Cor! This thread keeps bobbing up. I am so pleased that people are hearing and liking The Passage.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i also just heard the peel sessions (with female vcls) for the first time, and am surprised at how much darker the dickwitts vers are. what were they doing? why did they stop?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ned! help!

*cough cough* Can I assist?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ned is omnipresent! even at this time of morning!

btw do you know why they ditched the girl singer?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

All I heard was (at the time and I think it's mentioned in the sleevenotes) that *she wasn't really into it*. A bit lame I know.

Ned - have you heard of this : http://www.renascent.co.uk/pageswswans/wswans.html

Obscuro trax from the Wild Swans. It's very good.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

btw dr.c, osbourne has told me i must take umbridge with your inability to appreciate the monochrome set. but then i am a middle aged middle class git. so bear me no mind. except i like them.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Spiff, Dr. C. I will investigate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That Wild Swans LP is very fine, although my feeling is that 2CDs is overegging the pudding slightly.

I was very pleased to read in the sleevenotes that a very limited (like 200 copies) white label 7" of "Revolutionary Spirit" was pressed before the Zoo release. I had always thought that my copy was some sort of bootleg.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 1 September 2003 11:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I want to hear this band.

David. (Cozen), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ah i see people have spotted the wild swans cd, is that my life i see passing before me.
i'm on the live tracks recorded by serge ant and i certainly didn't expect they'd ever be released. well welly well.
next up in 04 is my old band 'benny profane'. it's all happening.

joe mckechnie, Thursday, 30 October 2003 11:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

:-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 17:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Still waiting for D.Witts to post!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
An appreciative feature on The Passage by writer Nicholas Royle in the December issue of UK music mag The Wire, http://www.thewire.co.uk/

Marten, Thursday, 4 December 2003 12:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
there's some passage live tracks to be had.
www.yammer.co.uk/passage
this will be ongoing with contributions of course being welcome.

mckechnie, Monday, 16 February 2004 18:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh neat! *bookmarks same*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 February 2004 19:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Really amazing to find all this stuff on The Passage after all this time. I was the girl singer in 1980 who appeared on the first Peel sessions and the single Devils and Angels with the far superior B side Watching You Dance...if only if only, Dick had released the B side as the A side. I see here contributions from Joe and Andy, would love to get in touch and see how things are turning out. Also from Dick (but see nothing from him here). I left the band because I was young and Dick could be hard going, with the benifit of hindsight and maturity I wish I had been advised to hang on in there because we created some good music and Dick was a clever man and my voice developed with my confidence as I continued singing until fairly recently...and no doubt will again (when the right things come up). I moved around a lot (lived in Australia for a few years) and lost touch. Will get in touch again. How goes it Joe?? I am having a happy life on the whole. Love Lizzy xxxx

Lizzy Johnson, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

FUCKING HELL! LIZZY!! Lizzy - your stuff with the Passage was mighty!

This is amazing. Wilson, McKechnie, and now LIZZY JOHNSON!

Where are you Dick Witts?

Ha! I was going to post to this thread today - I was listening to the Yellow Magic Orchestra's 'Technodelic' reissue and track 3 'Stairs' *is* The Passage!

I love ILM! I love the Passage!!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Am I right in saying that a young Damien Mahoney drummed for The Passage before joining Hurrah!? I understand that after Hurrah! he joined the Police (not The Police, the real actual Police). But am I getting muddled?

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, this is cool indeed. :-) Rah for Lizzy, who did great! I think the Passage moment that comes to my mind most is that sung/whispered "LIBERTY!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, this is awesome!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, Tim - exactly right. He was 'Paul' Mahoney whilst in the Passage.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 16:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm sold! So with which album should a Passage novice start? At the beginning? With the Peel Sessions?

paul c (paul c), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 19:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Pindrop or Degenerates probably, but anywhere is good!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 11:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
nother new track at yammer site - lon don

manley belch, Saturday, 29 May 2004 13:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Cor!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I think this thread can't be revived enough, it's great to see how everything just sorta evolves. (This is also a shameless plea to ask Mr. McKechnie if he knows anything about a Modern Eon rerelease -- somewhere -- anytime...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 13:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

>So with which album should a Passage novice start? At the beginning? >With the Peel Sessions?

Most accessible ? Probably Degenerates.

Seedy is a good, if jagged and uneven compilation.

Ric Euteneuer, Wednesday, 28 July 2004 15:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
My own John Peel homage today -- listening to the Peel Session disc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Getting into the car to drive home from work last Wednesday, I heard the sad news about John Peel. Arriving home 20 minutes later, I find the BBC sessions have been (very kindly) sent to me by James Nice. So I hear this fantastic Passage music and my own contribution which I have not heard in .... 24 years for the first time on the very day John Peel died. Kind of a strange coincidence. Will miss his Radio One and Radio Four shows badly.

elizabeth johnson, Sunday, 31 October 2004 14:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Okay. great. thanks a lot you guys. cuzza this thread I picked up nice shiny vinyl copies of For All And None and Degenerates and now I want them all! Please don't tell me about anything else great for a while cuz i am running out of money. I really dig this stuff. It's right up my alley. (while i was at it i picked up a copy of Blue Orchids' Agent Of Change e.p. digging that one too.)

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 25 November 2004 16:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ENJOY!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 26 November 2004 08:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

agents of change is great!

bulbs (bulbs), Friday, 26 November 2004 09:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
Just thought I'd pop in again to say hello.

Sorry I've not done much with the Yammer site for a while. Lots of irons in the fire etc. Still got a pile of press cuttings from James Nice to scan for the site (I gave up transcribing them).

Was supposed to get something from Momus for the site, but it never happened. I think I upset him when I mentioned that I heard his single on the Steve Wright Show in the late 80s. I bought one of his albums though, so I can't have been taking the piss.

Been getting live stuff to put on the web site, but I have to be careful not to exceed my bandwidth or the site will rapidly disappear. Otherwise no new news to add - although I see something about Wild Swans and Benny Profance, which certainly seems noteworthy.

BTW I saw Benny Profane in some Liverpool pub in the 80s (can't remember the name but it did regular lock-ins, only I couldn't stay late because my friend was being sick). Used to see the singer (Dave?) around a lot - must have lived near me. Joe started the set off on drums and then played guitar for the rest of it IIRC - not quite what I expected.

Nice to see Lizzy here too. She contacted me and kindly sent me some scans for the site.

Actually, I'm hoping you good folks have something to add to the site. Maybe you have more detail to add to the biography or discography. Maybe you have press cuttings or photographs. Maybe you've got a naughty live bootleg you'd like to share. Please get in touch, I'm ready to do more site stuff :-)

www.yammer.co.uk/passage

Keith Nuttall, Friday, 10 June 2005 18:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Let me revive this again because I don't know if anyone noticed Keith's post in June! (I didn't!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 August 2005 03:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It's surprising and awesome that this thread has so many replies.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 15 August 2005 04:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Fabulous band!
Degenerates is such a fabulous album. First heard of them on Cherry red sampler Pillows and Prayers. Ran out to by Degenerates! Go to seed must be my fave album track.
Thought Enflame was fab too if not boardering on techno!

Antzman, Saturday, 20 August 2005 13:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE LIVE RECORDINGS - ARE THERE EVER GONNA
BE ANY FURTHER RELEASES ???????????????

dafox, Sunday, 21 August 2005 17:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Revive!

I'm listening to Pindrop for the 1st time right now, it took a few songs for me to get into it, but I'm really liking this now. Is there a recommended order for me to check out their other albums?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Well, The Passage is probably one of the most underrated bands from the 80's. Their 2nd album is an absolute masterpiece. I was in UK at that time, and was so impressed by their music that I put an advert in Sounds, to find musicians influenced by their unique sound.
They still are one of my all times favourites. Genius. Pure genius.

dc shell, Monday, 9 January 2006 12:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

afternoon grappling fans,
i've set up a site ahead of the reissue on boutique/ltm of the 2 benny profane lps [on one cd]
find out more here - www.myspace.com/bennyprofaneuk
you have to sign up and stuff but thought some of you might be interested.
enjoy.
joe

mckechnie (joe profane), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 18:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Cripes, I totally missed this thread's revival! Off to myspace I go...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 January 2006 07:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

new passage live tracks on yammer site - fear [from 1/1/81 ica, with lizzy on vocals] & the beginning the dawn [from rca supporting this heat].
enjoy.
joe

mckechnie (joe profane), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Nice! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
I saw The Passage at the (then) Thames Poly in Woolwich, London, in Febuary 1982 (the 10th if I remember correctly). I was 14 and it was my first gig. I went with my older brother. I subseqently bought every release apart from the first EP, which i never found. And subsequently sold them all when I moved to CD! Pity, since only a compilation exists as far as I know. I thought they were unique and got me thinking about politics and religion and relationships etc. They were as important to me as Joy Division, and that is saying something!

andrew f, Saturday, 1 April 2006 12:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Pity, since only a compilation exists as far as I know.

Read upthread, my friend -- everything's been rereleased on CD. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 1 April 2006 13:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
can't remember if i mentioned this already but i've set up a passage page on myspace.
www.myspace.com/thepassageuk
from there, if you so desire, you can find pages for benny profane and buffalo recordings.
be interesting to see if people still look at this here page.

joe

mckechnie (joe profane), Sunday, 12 November 2006 16:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

They do indeed!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 November 2006 17:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

apart from you ned! you look at everything.

mckechnie (joe profane), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Heheh

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Because they're on Facebook don't you know

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:30 (eight years ago) Permalink


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