Released: October 20th on XL Recordings
Ripping up the rule book once again, Basement Jaxx return with their third album Kish Kash. With Remedy and Rooty they famously "fucked house music up the arse". Now they're going to fuck with your heads. Taking in punk, funk electro and northern soul the Jaxx have produced an astoundingly intense, ugly and beautiful ride from start to finish.
Filching from all the disparate strands of music's past to create something spellbindingly new, this album sees a handpicked band of collaborators drawn from across the musical spectrum and Felix and Simon's magpie like-record collections. First single 'Lucky Star' (released November 10th) sees the Jaxx in cahoots with the UK underground's boy in the corner Dizzee Rascal, a harsh tagteam assault leaping straight from the underground and into the charts. Other collaborations include legendary South London punk pioneer Siouxsie Sioux on electropunk thrashout Cish Cash; Lisa Kekaula from LA rock and soul shakermakers the Bellrays belting out 'Good Luck', the kind ofcrazed stomper you'd end up with if Grooverider played at the Wigan Casino; nu soul diva Meshell Ndegéocello getting sassy on p-funked dancefloor mover Right Here's The Spot and N*Sync asylum seeker JC Chasez adding some falsetto to the unhinged r&b sex-up meets rave anthem that is Plug It In.
Basement Jaxx have returned to give dance music a much needed slap in the chops. Taking Where's Your Head At as the blue print and their 'punk garage' fusion to its logical endgame Felix & Simon have produced an album that is above and beyond genre classification. Now, when all around are treading creative water, Kish Kash dives in at the deep end. Ready for La Future?
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― st, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 12:19 (twenty years ago) link
is it on slsk yet ?(ducks)
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― st, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link
do it now !!
(shhhh dont tell the riaa shhhh nothin 2 c here)
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 12 August 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link
YES I DO KENT.
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― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 12:31 (twenty years ago) link
Massive Attack did it, earlier this year...
― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
st go there and download the basic version of mmjukebox (i hear this program sux from ppl who know more about computers than me but i use it to make mp3s, it seems ok.)once you have installed it, insert the cd, and select 'record'. once this process has finished, let slsk know where on your computer the files are. (pls,thnx)
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― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
it'll probably be crap.
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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link
(Yes I am excited btw)
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― trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link
haha X-POST
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link
(Not that you'd need to try very hard, granted.)
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What a wise and good man you are, of course.
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― trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:46 (twenty years ago) link
(haha x-post supreme)
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― trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link
No, best thread of the year!
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― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
trifey:
1. Good Luck featuring Lisa Kekaula 2. Right Here¡¦s The Spot featuring Meshell Ndegeocello3. Benjilude4. Lucky Star featuring Dizzee Rascal5. Petrilude6. Supersonic featuring Totlyn Jackson7. Plug It In featuring JC Chasez8. Cosmolude9. If I Ever Recover10.Cish Cash featuring Siouxsie Sioux11.Tonight featuring Phoebe12.Hot & Cold13.Living Room14.Feels Like Home featuring Meshell Ndegeocello
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link
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― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link
This thread makes me so happy. I read an interview with one of the BJ guys a few months ago and he said the third album was going to be quieter and more soulful and I was thinking "no no no! More body-punishing electrobooty sexbot action!"
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 23:30 (twenty years ago) link
b-but Get me Off is clearly the standout track. you silly billy.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 23:32 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 23:40 (twenty years ago) link
and will we be treated to another singles collection? (how much longer can i go without a copy of "acid life" or "i live in brixton"?)
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link
yes.....clearly....
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― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link
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― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link
Finney ur forgetting someone
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― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 06:55 (twenty years ago) link
Did any of you ever get that EP? Acid Luv is such a good track, I played it yesterday after reading this thread. It's like the teletubbies making pop acid house. definitely one to irritate people with on the acid house thread.
I've always loved Yoyo, maybe more than any of their other tracks. I do prefer Remedy to Rooty though. But Get Me Off was such a good record, I really liked the Superchumbo remix which basically just beefed it all up even more and added a few e snare rattles and made it a bit more frantic if that's possible. The original has the delicate touch though, the breakdown where it's does the call and response thing with the melody and the first one is all buff and airy and then that big ignorant bass comes back. Classic.
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 07:18 (twenty years ago) link
Sorry I should also stress that link's from their EP last year, never was a full single release.
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 07:19 (twenty years ago) link
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― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 10:43 (twenty years ago) link
thas perfect jess as on the mix i made this weekend was Uptown Top Ranking followed by Fannypack
i'm dying to hear how me'shell and the jaxx sound together
― H (Heruy), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 11:45 (twenty years ago) link
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― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 14 August 2003 08:12 (twenty years ago) link
― st cool kids of death, Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:22 (twenty years ago) link
thanks for trying anyway
― minna (minna), Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:24 (twenty years ago) link
― st cool kid of death, Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:26 (twenty years ago) link
― minna (minna), Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:33 (twenty years ago) link
Copy-protection systems work by adding a corrupt data track to the outside edge of a CD. This track is ignored by common audio CD players but prevents copying, and sometimes playing, in the more sensitive PC CD drives.
By covering up a portion of the dividing line and outside track on the CD, without touching the last audio track, it is possible to fool the CD player into thinking that the extra corrupt data track does not exist. The marker pen line can easily be wiped away afterwards with a soft cloth.
A similar result was also obtained by sticking bits of a Post-It note along the edge of the CD, but this is not advised as the paper may come loose and damage the drive. "
― minna (minna), Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:34 (twenty years ago) link
― st cool kid of death, Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:48 (twenty years ago) link
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE DO THIS! :)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 14 August 2003 09:58 (twenty years ago) link
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― Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:05 (twenty years ago) link
The Dizzee track is good, but I wasn't 100% sure about it--it's pretty dense and layered and his voice seemed to get a little lost. But that could have just been the mediocre sound system. It has a Middle Eastern vibe going on, lots of muezzin wails in the background. And a female chorus that reminded me a bit of Madonna (maybe that's just the title).
Other brilliant tracks: the first one by Lisa whats her name, lots of twists and turns and breakdowns. The first Me'Shell one, very funky, lots of Prince in there with the voiceovers. But really, it all sounded great to me.
The whole thing definitely takes off from Where's Your Head At, there's only about one remotely mellow track on there, it's all pretty hard and aggressive, sounds almost rock a lot of the time, rhythm-wise. The production seemed like their most dense, lots of off-stage squeals and feedback and bleeps going on. And it must be their longest album too easily, lots of tracks, no filler.
And it doesn't sound like anyone else. They just about restored my faith in dance music. Maybe that was the free beer.
Unfortunately I don't have a copy!
― Ben Williams, Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:26 (twenty years ago) link
I did consider adding to that post.
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― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 August 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
I WANT IT NOW and this will not stop me from buying it when it comes out.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 August 2003 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Thursday, 14 August 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― st cool kid of death, Thursday, 14 August 2003 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
Assuming Siouxsie hasn't gone back to her punk rock days per se ('electropunk' though, hm)...well, easiest thing to do would be to get the Once Upon a Time/Twice Upon a Time singles comps, as the Banshees were absolute geniuses on that front, at least during the early eighties in particular.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 August 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
+ the only way to listen to this is on headphones.
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 14 August 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link
Me too. I have no patience or self control whatsoever and I can't stand the fact that it exists somewhere in the world without me hearing it. I am immature like that.
― Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 14 August 2003 14:14 (twenty years ago) link
Nah.
Yes, it's *that* good.
― st cool kid of death, Thursday, 14 August 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link
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― adam west (adamwest), Friday, 29 August 2003 03:41 (twenty years ago) link
one at a time please.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 03:45 (twenty years ago) link
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― flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Friday, 29 August 2003 03:48 (twenty years ago) link
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― Ding Dongs in Motion (Arthur), Friday, 29 August 2003 03:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 04:11 (twenty years ago) link
track 1: 2-step dnb buried in an avalanche of r&b signifiers (strings, chimes, the works) with a vocal rips "tained love" (no shit.)
track 2: serious p-funk house action. what "sfm" was trying to be on rooty and failed to be. n'degocello sounds like prince's camille, except the genderfucking flipped and reversed.
track 3: interlude.
track 4: dizzee rascal is the most exciting person on the face of the earth today. vaguely middle eastern acordion (?) modal/bagpipe drone thing going on. imagine jammer or danny weed if they overdosed on e and got 10k in new equipment.
track 5: interlude, deranged freaks-style gibber
track 6: their most deranged track since "fly life", and 100x as overstuffed. also, their most blatantly princely track ever. harmonica! acid wah-wah guitar! half a dozen competing voices!
track 7: if jc chavez produced an entire album with the jaxx it would - in sonic terms at least - trounce justin 8-ways from sunday. more prince. imagine modern r&b produced by, say, the house crew or jonny l.
track 8: interlude. "robert owens in the echo chamber."
track 9: a rather straight forward, yet totally beautiful, fingers inc. style house-ballad.
track 10: title track. the best electroclash track every written. no contest.
track 11: fractured spanish-guitar pop house that never quite achieves lift off since it seems to be collapsing from the inside. "house of the rising sun"/"paint it, black" meets chain reaction meets rodney jerkins.
track 12: stacey q style stab-fest. the rhythm sounds like it was made out of stalactites and percolating coffee.
track 13: indie pop! this is the jaxx's "hey ya".
track 14: typical jaxx gorgeous slow jam closer. 7 minutes. utterly aquaeous. chill out meets kompatkt meets drexciya meets timbaland.
this album is fucking STUFFED. as usual, they fill each track with enough ideas to fill another artists whole album.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 05:39 (twenty years ago) link
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― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:07 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:09 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:10 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:11 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:12 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:13 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:15 (twenty years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:19 (twenty years ago) link
07 is so fucking Prince-circa-1999 crossed w/Prince-doing-rock it's just fucking sad-making
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:21 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:22 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:26 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:27 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:27 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:29 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:30 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:33 (twenty years ago) link
oh jesus yes
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 29 August 2003 07:44 (twenty years ago) link
Grrrrrr I want this NOW!
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 07:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:41 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:45 (twenty years ago) link
:(
― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 29 August 2003 10:17 (twenty years ago) link
(bah the cybercafe has decided to stop letting me burn the mp3s I burn, fuckers (& after I spend 16hrs downloading stuff!) - dunno how I'm gonna hear this)
― Ess Kay (esskay), Friday, 29 August 2003 11:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 29 August 2003 11:38 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 29 August 2003 11:39 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 29 August 2003 11:41 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael B, Friday, 29 August 2003 12:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:22 (twenty years ago) link
(psst stevem, what's yr slsk username? try xpecting2fly; nobody's currently d/l-ing anything from me)
― Ess Kay (esskay), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael B, Friday, 29 August 2003 12:28 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:49 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael B, Friday, 29 August 2003 12:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael B, Friday, 29 August 2003 12:55 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link
― adam (adam), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:16 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:31 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link
rougher the better.
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link
Heh, good call. I kept checking the tracklisting until the title confirmed it. The next "My Neck, My Back" in terms of subject matter?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:45 (twenty years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 13:52 (twenty years ago) link
Jesus Christ YES. I'm sorry, but this is all the ammunition I will ever need from now on against the Justin lovers. Throw this up against "Rock Your Body" or "Like I Love You" and it's just embarassing how thoroughly they're squished.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:29 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Friday, 29 August 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Friday, 29 August 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link
in fact you can get the first half now here
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:56 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 14:59 (twenty years ago) link
I wouldn't be so quick to say Chavez stomps Timberlake... I love this album but I don't think there's a single killer single on it (slightly paradoxically: the first 7-8 tracks could all be singles; but I don't think any one of them would cross over to people who aren't into Jaxx already). I wouldn't be surprised if it sells less than the other albums. Whereas JT pulled off the populist/experimental trick...
― Ben Williams, Friday, 29 August 2003 15:01 (twenty years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:05 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link
But who cares? It's an absolutely brilliant album and I love it.
― Ben Williams, Friday, 29 August 2003 15:17 (twenty years ago) link
Ah, see, this leads into the realm of opinion where I happen to think he didn't do that at all to my satisfaction...but the previous twelve months of this board to thread. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
listening now and am approaching orgasmic levels of joy
― H (Heruy), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link
i'll be buying it on vinyl, twice...
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Larcole (Nicole), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
i'll buy it and i know i'm gonna make lots o' ppl buy it
― H (Heruy), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:38 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 29 August 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link
― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 29 August 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link
thanks to toby for letting me get these earlier
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 16:43 (twenty years ago) link
― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 29 August 2003 16:52 (twenty years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Friday, 29 August 2003 16:57 (twenty years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Friday, 29 August 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:02 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
thx again, stevem
― zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
(and so is this album)
― todd swiss (eliti), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:50 (twenty years ago) link
* i know i'm gonna like this more upon each listen* even less 4/4 than previously. (anyone who still compares Jaxx to Daft Punk at this point are clearly lame and/or lying). * seems like they've been listening to Rennie Pilgrem and some recent nu skool breaks type stuff.. thankfully, i think the fusion of that stuff here works well. (my opinion of Fuel/TCR/Fingerlickin/Marine Parade material has declined drastically in recent years. A bunch of it is still great, but far less hits than misses)* i like everything on this equally. "Good Luck" is amazing.* this is more different from their previous two records than "rooty" was to "remedy".
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 29 August 2003 17:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:08 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:18 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:32 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 29 August 2003 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
corny pop fuxx
Fear the new regime!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:04 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 August 2003 19:10 (twenty years ago) link
I tried downloading this on slsk but the only person who didn't have it queued had CORRUPTED CHIRPY SKIPPING FILES DIE YOU FUXX0R
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 29 August 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link
I am afraid to listen to it now because then I will never get my writing done
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 29 August 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 29 August 2003 23:11 (twenty years ago) link
― damian_nz (damian_nz), Saturday, 30 August 2003 01:56 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 30 August 2003 02:00 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 30 August 2003 02:01 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 30 August 2003 05:11 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 30 August 2003 05:47 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 30 August 2003 06:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:01 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:05 (twenty years ago) link
― trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:24 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 30 August 2003 07:35 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 30 August 2003 08:31 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 30 August 2003 08:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 30 August 2003 10:16 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 30 August 2003 11:31 (twenty years ago) link
STEVEM I KISS YOU WITH A THOUSAND TONGUES
― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 30 August 2003 12:33 (twenty years ago) link
Very true. I suffered all though summer in anticipation that at the very latest this album would surface early August. When it didn't show up, I was sort of crestfallen. (My summer soundtrack in its absence was Larry Levan's live at the Paradise Garage, Prince and Funkadelic.) It will be interesting to see how this album works in autumn.
Upon first listen, "Right Here's the Spot" is the logical choice for a single. Accessible as hell without sacrificing edge. (I hope to God it doesn't get dogged to the same extent that "Just 1 Kiss" or "Bingo Bango" did.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 August 2003 12:44 (twenty years ago) link
"YEAH YEAH YAYAYAYA"
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 30 August 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Saturday, 30 August 2003 13:39 (twenty years ago) link
so, i'm agreeing this is album of the year. it's fucking dense!!! 'overstuffed' is a good way to describe it i keep hearing more and more stuff i missed on earlier listens. and i don't know if i'm just losing it but i keep hearing all sorts of odd references. like Supersonic has this one lil riff that keeps me thinking of Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band. mebbe that is waht Ned means in referring to Disco Tex 20s barrelhouse flavor.
i've had this on almost constant play and i lose it over so many songs each time. me'shell sounds great. and it's SIOUXSIE SIOUX! and the Dizzee track is amazing. I haven't cared for his own stuff that I'd heard but maybe need to go back and listen to again.
i also agree this is most likely not going to win them a new audience, nothing that seems it could crossover but i think its the strongest album yet.
― H (Heruy), Saturday, 30 August 2003 13:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 30 August 2003 13:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Saturday, 30 August 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 30 August 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 30 August 2003 14:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 30 August 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link
― nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 30 August 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
this record has the hardest drums i've ever heard on a pop-electronic-dance record.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 30 August 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 30 August 2003 18:13 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 30 August 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Saturday, 30 August 2003 18:58 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Saturday, 30 August 2003 18:59 (twenty years ago) link
Another thought, anyone agree it doesn't sound like them in the traditional sense. You know it's them because noone else could be this manic but alot of the trademark sounds are gone I feel. Not a value judgement
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 30 August 2003 19:19 (twenty years ago) link
basement jaxx have finally succeeded in what they were always trying to do: they have become their own genre.
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 30 August 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 30 August 2003 21:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 30 August 2003 21:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 30 August 2003 21:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 31 August 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 31 August 2003 10:25 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 31 August 2003 10:44 (twenty years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 31 August 2003 11:13 (twenty years ago) link
Not as far as I know, Ned, but it makes sense. The best of that scene and the old 'shibuya-kei' stuff, ie Cornelius, P5 and Plus-Tech Squeeze Box, sounds like you're freefalling through time and space. The denseness/layering of the Jaxx and Richard X rekkids, as well as the attention to crazy details like stereo panning and mixing sounds in and out and sample melding is getting closer and closer to the likes of Fantasma in this regard and best of all, they've always been kindred spirits in messing up the pop world and spreading joy.
Also, good points on the Neptunes, ones I'm inclined to agree with based on a recent interview.
Ronan said everything I'd say about 'Lucky Star', aside from the disco dreams :-).
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 31 August 2003 12:35 (twenty years ago) link
The obvious single "Lucky Star" is phenomenal, "Plug It In" "If I Recover" and "Cish Cash" are good, "Good Luck", "Hot 'n Cold" and "Right Here's The Spot" are OK, but "Supersonic", "Tonight", "Living Room" and "Feels Like Home" are fairly pointless at the end of the day. It's too bad that the track sequencing means that there's a massive drop in quality after track 10. The tracks have enormous potential for remixing, so I'm very interested in what the singles will bring.
The Neptunes-like sound in some tracks appears to be their marketing pitch "hiphop/r&b producers for hire" (BJ following in the footsteps of Adam F, Mirwais et al in "european dance producers showing off that they're way ahead of the game"?).
― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 31 August 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 31 August 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 31 August 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link
― ovets, Sunday, 31 August 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link
Sunday afternoon - burn 'Kish kash' to CD, go to XFM studios, hand CD to James Hyman and Eddy Temple-Morris who haven't got it yet and order them to play Track 04 - 'Lucky Star' subsequently blasted out on radio for an extremely naughty exclusive (actually it wasn't cos Pete Tong got there first Friday night on Radio 1 but still, internet power in effect)
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 31 August 2003 22:05 (twenty years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 31 August 2003 22:14 (twenty years ago) link
i am listening to it now and i feel like an idiot for ever doubting!!!"feels like home" is very beautiful... this album is making me feel excited in the same way that techno originally did years ago. i think this is a good time to be alive!
i got my copy from mr strongo... thanks!
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 31 August 2003 22:18 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 31 August 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 31 August 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 31 August 2003 23:54 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 September 2003 00:19 (twenty years ago) link
reasons to love 'Lucky Star' no. 6478: the prominent use of the 'round and round and round we go' line - classic hip-hop standard self-reference done great, and subtler reference to 'fix up look sharp' with the 'look up look down!' bit
but that 'Right Here's The Spot' chorus is REALLY doing it for me now also. and 'Supersonic' is a lovely bouncy house track with a great feelgood vibe - doesn't sound pointless to me, and no less worthy than 'Plug It In' which is the only track i've heard so far that i felt may be over-long
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 September 2003 01:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick H, Monday, 1 September 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link
i was listening + i thought - u know what ? i bet that'san ILX type who's resposible. very well done. sounded great coming through the tv off the SKY dish.
― piscesboy, Monday, 1 September 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 September 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
First thought on hearing "Lucky Star" - this is the direction the Stanton Warriors should have gone in.
Second thought on hearing "Lucky Star" - hey! This sounds like 808 State circa "Ex:El"!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 01:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Scott Warner (thream), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 05:33 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 06:22 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 06:27 (twenty years ago) link
But yeah I'd probably agree that there's no single track on there as good as "Romeo". Of course, early days! I've had the album for less than 24 hours! Should not comment!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 06:34 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:05 (twenty years ago) link
http://static3.state51.co.uk/25/60/2790054_TR6f/191x191.jpeg
― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 13:27 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 13:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 15:45 (twenty years ago) link
The last few tracks where they slow it down are all gorgeous, too. If anything it's the 'overstuffed' middle that's the weakest stretch.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link
that said, "right here's the spot", "cish cash", "plug it in" and (especially!) "good luck" are possibly all more immediate
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 16:08 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:10 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link
All of this misses the real question, which is "Why should I care if Basement Jaxx likes Justin Timberlake?"
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:57 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:00 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Larcole (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:18 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:19 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link
Surely Louis Pearlman = Sauron, Ringwraiths = pick a band.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:23 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:05 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:59 (twenty years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:21 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link
The original is way better.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link
10 favorite things:
1. The slam bam crashing synths on Plug It In; the dive bomb drone synths on Cish Cash.2. The way Good Luck goes from 0-60 in 4.6 seconds.3. The great guitars throughout: the skanking guitar line that underpins Good Luck (reminds me of the Police somehow!); the solo on Supersonic; the breakdown into duelling Spanish guitar-stylee halfway through Lucky Star; the acoustic strumming that powers the last few tracks.4. The way "Living Room" feels like a subway busking tune buffed up into a dance track.5. Me'Shell's butch way of saying "I fancy you" on Right Spot, plus the shout out to "Delirious" (and the synth burble responds with an extra Princely tweak)6. The dance tracks feel epic, but they're (almost) all under 5 minutes.7. The wailing harmonicas on Supersonic; the extra sped-up cartoon vocal in the breakdown halfway through; "hole in the water now!"8. The supercool cover, which almost makes me feel patriotic.9. The stop-start herky-jerky horn riff on Hot 'n' Cold.10. The B Jaxx's own vocals (which one sings?), great example of using an essentially weak voice to sound tender and affecting.
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:56 (twenty years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:01 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 23:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 00:08 (twenty years ago) link
What is he, a really big 'Bullseye' fan, or something. The Jim Bowen rivival starts here!
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 5 September 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link
OTM. People's citing "Plug It In" as indisputable evidence of Chasez's superiority is hugely opportunistic. Which isn't to say his performance isn't perfectly *fine*, but he isn't as nearly critical to his song in the way that Ndegéocello, Kekaula, Dizzee or Siouxsie are to theirs. (That said, given its hijacked chorus, "Plug It In" might be the least vocal-friendly track of the bunch...)
― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 5 September 2003 08:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 5 September 2003 10:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 5 September 2003 10:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael B, Friday, 5 September 2003 10:29 (twenty years ago) link
Listening to this is like sitting and trying to read a book in the park but you can't, because everything around you -- the birds, grass, trees, sun, the f*ckin' bench you're sitting on - is hopping, leaping, twittering at the same time. You're in Toon Town and you have to get the hell out. I wish the Jaxx would regain their sense of space, because after a couple of listens I've had enough. Just too much.And I'm not getting the Prince comparisons. "SFM" on ROOTY was waay Princier than anything on this joint.
― Michael B, Friday, 5 September 2003 10:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 5 September 2003 10:58 (twenty years ago) link
At the moment, nothing on the album even approaches "Right Here's The Spot" or "Feels Like Home" in sheer amazing smack-you-in-the-face-while-rubbing-your-crotch goodness.
"Lucky Star" is a decent track, but so far nothing I've heard with Dizzee on it is as good as "I Luv U".
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 5 September 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:02 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:20 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 5 September 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 5 September 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.xlrecordings.com/basementjaxx/release/~kishkashcd/
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 5 September 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 5 September 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 5 September 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 6 September 2003 01:03 (twenty years ago) link
(goes back under his rock)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 6 September 2003 01:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 6 September 2003 01:20 (twenty years ago) link
You can hardly hear him? Are you kidding me? He's all over the song. You'd have to be deaf or lying to say that you can hardly hear him. He sings the verses. He sings the choruses. He ad-libs. Where exactly aren't you hearing him? The very few times the female singer sings?
Justin could be singing it and it would be the same? Don't be ridiculous. Justin couldn't sing like that if his life depended on it. JC's falsetto is a hell of lot stronger than Justin's. His range is broader and his voice is stronger. I'm laughing at the thought of Justin trying some of those screams JC does. JC totally trounces Justin vocally. He's simply a better singer.
It's funny how some of you are totally raving about the song while trying not give JC's vocals any credit for how good it sounds. Like any run of the mill singer (like Justin) could have pulled that off. Give credit where credit is due. Basement Jaxx did a wonderful job making the music and JC did a great job singing it.
By the way, one more thing before I go. It's CHASEZ not Chavez.
― D, Saturday, 6 September 2003 06:31 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 September 2003 06:45 (twenty years ago) link
1. the synth crunch on the chorus2. the vocoder in the breakdown before the final chorus3. the opening synth blips4. the drum break5. the way the drum break sounds like it's splashing mercury in your face on the chorus6. the fact that it really does sound like jonny l, but can't decide if it's the jonny l who made bliss-overdose rave or bear-fart techstep7. the vocal
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 September 2003 06:48 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 September 2003 06:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Nutso Smasho (M Matos), Saturday, 6 September 2003 07:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Jey, Saturday, 6 September 2003 07:10 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 September 2003 07:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 6 September 2003 08:16 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 6 September 2003 12:26 (twenty years ago) link
not bad, some of it's cool (track 1, track 2) and the dzzee rsclone is fantastic, but...jeepers creepers the *hype* over here.
there's nowt as good as 'jus 1 kiss' or 'samba magic' that'sfer darn sure.
― piscesboy, Saturday, 6 September 2003 12:38 (twenty years ago) link
Somebody has to be DEAD WRONG.
;o)
― hypemonster, Saturday, 6 September 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 6 September 2003 13:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 6 September 2003 13:20 (twenty years ago) link
The new album is growing on me like lichen.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 6 September 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 6 September 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 6 September 2003 13:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 September 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 6 September 2003 14:03 (twenty years ago) link
― D, Saturday, 6 September 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 6 September 2003 15:36 (twenty years ago) link
The song of many singers... Quite a few people who passed through the studio had a crack at this one but eventually we got a visit from JC (set up by a mutual friend to discuss the possibility of producing a track for his forthcoming solo album) and when we heard him sing we knew, at last, that we had a voice for "Plug It In".
― D, Saturday, 6 September 2003 17:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Saturday, 6 September 2003 17:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Saturday, 6 September 2003 17:44 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 September 2003 18:05 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 6 September 2003 20:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 7 September 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 7 September 2003 01:05 (twenty years ago) link
Maybe the question should be would any of you be arguing against JC Chasez if weren't a member of a boyband? I think not. I bet most of you arguing against him wouldn't have any problems if he were just some unknown singer.
― D, Sunday, 7 September 2003 04:13 (twenty years ago) link
― amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 7 September 2003 05:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 7 September 2003 05:25 (twenty years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 7 September 2003 08:02 (twenty years ago) link
I still think this album is only *as good as* Rooty. But that's hardly a diss - it makes it my second favourite (and very almost favourite) album of the year. I think Tom's right insofar as that the strengths of the albums are different and this album either falls short of or far surpasses Rooty depending on which criteria you use.
I agreed with Ned re "Good Luck" until I played it really loud; now I love it. Volume is really essential with this album, much more than the previous two. Possibly it's because the focus is not so much on repetitious grooves (I don't think there's a single "proper" 4/4 beat on it) but on punishing riffs/hooks and profusion of sounds, and both of those need to be heard really loud to have their full effect.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 7 September 2003 09:42 (twenty years ago) link
Way more consistent that Rooty imo.
― Ben Williams, Sunday, 7 September 2003 11:39 (twenty years ago) link
I totally disagree. There's nothing special about Justin's vocals and his songs are not about them but about the production. One of the main complaints I've read about Justin's album is the total lack of personality of the singing on it. Most reviews seem to agree that it's the PRODUCTION that makes his album and NOT the vocals. As an example, take what Entertainment Weekly said : Whether it's because Timberlake has a suave but indistinct voice or because his producers overpower him, the album is strangely anonymous. Justin's "persona" hardly carries his album. The production of the Neptunes and Timbaland do. I think ANYONE could have been singing the songs on Justified and the songs would have sounded just as good (or bad). But apparently, according to Basement Jaxx, not just anyone could do Plug It In since they went through many singers before they found the voice made for the song. If just any "anonymous" voice would have done the job, then why didn't Basement Jaxx just use one of the many other singers they tried?
― D, Sunday, 7 September 2003 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 7 September 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
Well slap my ass and call me stupid, but aren't Justin's "singles" his album tracks? Unless you are referring to the remixes that come on the commercial singles? Because yeah, I think the remixes done by people like Basement Jaxx definitely have more personality than the run of the mill Neptunes and Timbaland sounds on the album, but I'm basing my opinions of him on his actual album (and his stuff with *NSYNC), not remixes.
― D, Sunday, 7 September 2003 17:49 (twenty years ago) link
Also: Sasha Frere-Jones I Kiss You
and "run of the mill Neputunes and Timbaland sounds" is a contradiction in terms.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 7 September 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 7 September 2003 18:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 7 September 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link
I strongly beg to differ, unless you're implicitly drawing a distinction between the sounds themselves and how they use them.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 September 2003 18:34 (twenty years ago) link
How so? I think both have their own distinct sounds. So much so that they've become rather formulaic. Meaning you can tell most Neptunes songs when you hear them and you can tell most Timbaland songs when you hear them. That means I meant the songs are "run of the mill" Neptunes songs and "run of the mill" Timbaland songs. I think Justified sounds like a bunch of Neptunes and Timbaland songs and not like a bunch of Justin Timberlake songs.
― D, Sunday, 7 September 2003 21:06 (twenty years ago) link
I had no idea which songs were produced by which producers till I looked at the booklet, to be honest. in that sense it seems way more like a Justin record than a 'Tunes or Timba record to me.
― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 7 September 2003 21:13 (twenty years ago) link
Also if you can ID a track as from a producer it doesn't mean that its run of the mill.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 7 September 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link
The funny thing is that you inadvertantly reinforced why both Dan and I dislike the album so much!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 September 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 7 September 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 September 2003 21:49 (twenty years ago) link
I totally disagree. The producers overpower Justin, not the other way around. The producers make Juistified, not the other way around. I'm certainly not alone in this opinion. In fact, I'd say I'm in the majority. The Neptunes and Timbaland have been given the bulk of the credit of the album by many people.
― D, Sunday, 7 September 2003 22:44 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 7 September 2003 22:46 (twenty years ago) link
I was merely pointing out that I'm not exactly throwing around a farfetched or out-there opinion.
Sorry if you are a Justin Timberlake fan and all that. I just don't happen to agree that he somehow overpowers producers like the Neptunes and Timbaland. They molded that album and made it what it is. Justin is rather young and not exactly a fully realized artist. Maybe when he becomes a more mature artist he'll be able to get more of himself in his product instead of coming off a weak Michael Jackson imitator.
― D, Sunday, 7 September 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 7 September 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link
Read the damn thread I linked already.
Also asserting something never proves it. SFJ proves (in the article from the thread I linked) HIS point and if I had the energy of a particular point of attack I could back it up fairly easily. Quick example: could Seniorita work without Justin's strained falsetto? Also, who else could or does sing like that? Second example: can justin beatbox or WHAT?
Third example (per SFJ) Justin came up with the Cry Me A River melody which is unlike any other timbo melodies ever.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 7 September 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link
― geeta (geeta), Monday, 8 September 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link
I totally missed the link you posted.
I read that back when it came out. It gave me quite a laugh. I couldn't decide if the person was a just a huge Justin teeny (I imagined him sitting at his desk, sighing as he looked at his Justin poster from Tiger Beat while writing his indignant article) or had a vendetta against the New Yorker's Alex Ross (that big meany doesn't appreciate Justin like he should!). Sorry, but I wasn't impressed.
Do you want to spend massive amounts of time posting links to articles and reviews that "prove" our opinions of Justin? I can find quite a few (as I'm sure you can). That would get old after awhile. Don't you think? ;o)
― D, Monday, 8 September 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link
That's going to get a big "what in the hell are you talking about?" from me.
I don't exactly get what you mean.
All I can say (since I don't get exactly what you meant.. I must need some sleep) is I don't think his sales exactly show overwhelming support from the "masses". Here in the U.S., he's around 2.9 million sold. Hardly indicative of massive support from the "masses". Especially compared to what *NSYNC has sold here.
― D, Monday, 8 September 2003 00:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Tenacious D, Monday, 8 September 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 8 September 2003 00:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Baltimore Raven's the Best D?, Monday, 8 September 2003 00:59 (twenty years ago) link
― The Chicago Bears' 46 D, Monday, 8 September 2003 01:10 (twenty years ago) link
Aw man.
― Nedbot (Ned), Monday, 8 September 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 8 September 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway can we get back to the Jaxx???
"But it sounds really good on headphones too."
I've only been listening to it on headphones! Only on 7.7 rather than 6.1. It hurts in a nice way.
Can I incite people to talk about how great "Living Room" is? luvvit to the bone.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 September 2003 05:36 (twenty years ago) link
Agree that it is more consistent than Rooty.
I like this album alot because it seems to have gone down the Set Yo Body Free route alot more persistently than the previous two.
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 September 2003 07:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 September 2003 07:38 (twenty years ago) link
I would like it if this sold 2.9 million copies btw.
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 8 September 2003 07:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 September 2003 07:59 (twenty years ago) link
I am also happy that people are saying there's nothing like Romeo, which I never thought was much cop in the first place (ditto for most of Rooty, actually).
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 8 September 2003 08:49 (twenty years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 8 September 2003 09:49 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:13 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:47 (twenty years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:47 (twenty years ago) link
I've come to the conclusion that this album was sent to me by God. It's that amazing.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 September 2003 12:21 (twenty years ago) link
― God (Ned), Monday, 8 September 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
I was all prepared to like it, I wanted to like it, but after two listens I'm still not even close to really feeling a single track (well, maybe number 14, but not in any great way)! what's wrong with me? More later on the (no doubt horrendously wrong and perverse) criticisms I have of it.
― Dan I., Monday, 8 September 2003 14:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 01:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 03:13 (twenty years ago) link
I think people often look at the Neptunes' crushing omnipresence and (as Sterling notes) ease-of-identification, and confuse that with crushing self-derivative repetition. There are actually quite a few "run-of-the-mill" Neptunes tracks (stuff like "U Don't Have To Call", "Wait A Minute" and some of their work with Latrelle springs to mind) but I reckon they tended towards self-derivativeness in '01 more than in '02-'03.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 06:45 (twenty years ago) link
I reviewed Clones and felt it was sort of a technicality criticising them for doing not alot wrong really, ie all the tracks were great ideas but great ideas that were difficult to endure because they did feel totally Neptunes the entire time, not sure how long they can keep that up, the simple fact is not every artist will sound great working with the Neptunes, but they don't let that stop them.
Also they're working alot more within the limits of genre than someone like Basement Jaxx.
I thought the Justin tracks were great because he gave them a new direction aswell as vice versa.
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 07:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
Neptunes - rockin' the party and selling shitloads of records.
I'll take both thank you very much.
― Nick H, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
There's something spoiled about Neptunes bitching. Oh yeah, there's these great producers who produce a fusion of live funk and hip-hop that's simultaneously futuristic and traditional, and not only is it a new sound but it's also really catchy and it dominates the charts, and they manage to keep churning out great new tunes for years. Yeah, that really sucks man, I'm so sick of them!
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 15:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 15:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:16 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link
YEAH.
FUCK.
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link
(PS Agree that Pharell has a thin voice, and I didn't like Frontin' for ages, but I think it takes off when Jay-Z and the synths come in... and I don't really think it sounds like Beautiful, except they both have guitar riffs)
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
Okay of the songs I listed the styles are, in order: minimal old skool, indian, indie-pop, fluid digi-funk, dancehall, stiff live funk, disco (also note the perversity of making the digital funk fluid and the live funk stiff!). Now it's true that these manage to sound more similar than seven songs by different artists/producers working in those separate styles, but I'm not sure what more can be expected. You could say, "well, they could be Basement Jaxx!", but there's a reason why everyone is calling Kish Kash the album of the year and it's that they raise the bar for this sort of thing pretty fucking high (although I suspect if Basement Jaxx released thirty tunes a year they'd probably be repeating themselves a bit too).
And I'm not uncritical towards The Neptunes - I could talk at length about what they do that doesn't work and why it doesn't work. Like why "U Don't Have To Call", the little "situations will arise" bit aside, is pretty useless. And even that sung bit gets reprised in Jay-Z's far-superior "Fuck All Night" so there's no use for the original). Or how In Search Of... is largely overrated and Clones is underwhelming in spite of its good ideas. Or how Justified falls down frequently (that's as much Justin and Timbaland's faults though).
I think Ronan's post is OTM. There is something exhausting about The Neptunes' constant parade of unmistakable production work, but that exhaustion comes from the totality more than specific instances of production-work/songcraft, which when viewed in isolation are often astonishingly clever and (most importantly in my book) instinctively-but-surprisingly funky. This is why releasing a compendium like Clones is a bad idea - it blurs the qualities of each particular tune into a general haze of Neptunes-ness, such that accusations of self-derivativeness become tempting even when they're not accurate.
In contrast, I find I love The Neptunes most as a series of instances - the blitzkrieg blast of Busta's "Call The Ambulance", the mindmelting rhythm of Clipse's "Ego", the peerless groove of Jay-Z's "Nigga Please" which seems to require extra limbs to do it justice, the compulsive pop-ness of Philly's Most Wanted's "Cross The Border of Kelis's "Popular Thug" (two possibly self-derivative but nonetheless irresistible moments), every element exactingly measured to produce maximum joy.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link
Haha and god nobody even tried to explain what a generic timba track was (tho yeah you listen to the Tim and Magoo albums and you can sorta guess but hello Missy's four albums all TOTALLY DIFFERENT)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 03:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 04:15 (twenty years ago) link
Jay-Z on the other hand could give a sewing contest a massive sense of occasion.
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 07:42 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 07:46 (twenty years ago) link
And I'm only on track 4.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 10:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 10:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 11:16 (twenty years ago) link
I think you're tying yourself in knots here a bit. If it's inherently a bad idea for the Neptunes to put out a compilation of their work, then they really must suck.
But as it is Clones is pretty good--it's just patchy. Still, I count six great tracks, six decent ones, three weak ones, and we'll just agree to pretend the two rock tracks aren't there. Could have been better, but good enough for me.
And In Search Of is so not overrated! I love that album (first version anyway).
― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 13:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 13:29 (twenty years ago) link
All good producers have a style, that's how they get work, and one of the main reasons for buying a compilation by any producer would be because you like their style and you want to hear lots of examples of it in a row!
― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 14:57 (twenty years ago) link
Ben I think you're perhaps reading my argument to be more damning than it was intended to be. I don't think it's illegitimate to say that one of the more appealing aspects of The Neptunes is that they work across lots of different musical contexts, and that making "The Neptunes" the context can dilute this attribute slightly. When I say "releasing a compendium like Clones is a bad idea" I mean that it's bad insofar as it encourages accusations of repetitiveness.
Because everything on Clones is new it invites considerations of the album as a unified and complete body of work, something to be listened to from beginning to end. At this stage of the game listening to ten Neptunes tracks in one sitting, to my mind tends to ram home the similarities b/w each track, and indeed the similarities found in all of The Neptunes' work (nb. this is not a problem when dancing to ten Neptunes tracks in a row for the obvious reason, although I don't think Clones is necessarily suited to that).
If you actually listen to it like a compilation to be delved into a track or two at a time, it works much better. And yeah, it's very convenient to have all the songs rounded up on one cd!
"And In Search Of is so not overrated! I love that album (first version anyway)."
It's a great album, but I'm sick of people saying "The Neptunes better stop churning out identikit singles and start making their second N.E.R.D. masterpiece" - I mean wtf? What is the inherent qualitative difference?
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 11 September 2003 02:57 (twenty years ago) link
I mean, 'Plug It In', 'Lucky Star', 'Good Luck', 'Cish Cash'...awww man, I'm a slave to the rhythm. Watch me dance to these anytime they get dropped in a club.
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 14 September 2003 18:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 14 September 2003 19:15 (twenty years ago) link
so i do hope we all go and buy the album when it EVENTUALLY comes out so we may demonstrate that this method of distributing new music works to EVERYONE'S advantage. the album was uploaded because it was worth hearing thus worth owning. of course if you cannot afford to buy 'Kish Kash', you must delete the mp3s immediately or be forever damned by Jollyon Benn and his band of scheming robots (it's a dirty job but the RIAA says someone's gotta do it, if they want that cash handout)...
oh they're also sending out C&D e-mails to a number of 'bootleggers' seemingly at random requesting the takedown of material that samples copyright recordings. truly we have entered the end of days...
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 20 September 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
I initially read this as 'classic or dud' e-mails.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 20 September 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 20 September 2003 21:03 (twenty years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 25 September 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
Also, BJ on cover of next Mixmag and waiting on the Face to give BJ (haha) their 3rd-in-a-row cover story.
― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 25 September 2003 14:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
album review:
BASEMENT JAXXKISH KASH (XL) When Basement Jaxx exploded overground back in '99 they proclaimed their sound to be 'punk garage'. Couldn't call it that now, of course, for fear of confusing pallid teenagers in drainpipe jeans searching for an amphetamine guitar fix. And it seems unlikely, given the current musical climate, that any other 'dance' act will be leaping from the underground to the heart of the charts any time soon. The times they are a-changing - Basement Jaxx, thankfully, haven't. 'Kish Kash', you see, is instantly identifiable as being from their Brixton basement. There are the big singalong numbers like 'Good Luck' and the beats that get their weight through sounding like they've been deep fried in a greasy spoon rather than pumped up in the studio. But as ever the only 'formula' at work here seems to be 'throw it at a wall', and 'Kish Kash' is another glorious mess of ideas that sticks rather than slides. Take 'Lucky Star', where bhangra samples and bashment basslines are stuffed together like clothes into an overflowing suitcase, whilst Dizzee Rascal bounces on top trying to keep the whole thing locked down. Getting the garage man of the moment on your album would look cynical were the Jaxx's street level affiliations not so solid, as would roping in Siouxsie Sioux so soon after electroclash has made the old dominatrix trendy again. But her appearance on 'Kish Kash', like Dizzee's moment, sounds utterly unforced - like a scuzzier progression from Peaches' on 'Rooty's 'Get Me Off', a track which still beats the current crop of electro-porn cuts into submission. Which is what 'Kish Kash' does to the glut of retro 'garage punk' - if you want real rock 'n' roll energy, remember which way round those two words should go. (8)
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 25 September 2003 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
"If I Ever Recover" sounds-an-awful-lot like "_______________" by _______________.
― nader (nader), Friday, 26 September 2003 04:28 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 26 September 2003 04:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 26 September 2003 08:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 September 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:11 (twenty years ago) link
Instead of the "Didn't know that it was over..." part the chorus consists of a sampled diva singing "Looking for something/It's too late/Won't you be a man?!?" in a pretty pissed-off manner (ie. it's Mike's girlfriend). Presumably changed due to clearance difficulties???
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 September 2003 12:19 (twenty years ago) link
imho it's nowhere near as good as the version on the finished album, though.
― toby (tsg20), Friday, 26 September 2003 13:12 (twenty years ago) link
I wonder if software exists or is in R&D that could compare the sonic signatures of all your MP3s and identify songs that sound similar that perhaps hadn't occurred to you before.
I suppose it'd take some of the fun out of the research that happens when a Basement Jaxx track sounds awfully familiar and you can't quite place it, but isn't technology supposed to take the fun/mystery out of everything anyway?
Or maybe it's the software/tech that produces mash-ups, no? (Or could mass produce mash-ups?) Mind you I'm not advocating mass production - I just wonder if the software exists.
― nader (nader), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 26 September 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Friday, 26 September 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link
― nader (nader), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link
It's the music that's more like Fingers. I guess the fact that it's an English bloke singing is where the Streets come in (although I don't really hear the Streets--the Jaxx singer isn't rapping and he's not overplaying the accent... ;) but then I don't like the Streets that much and I haven't listened to them ages, so you should probably ignore me...)
― Ben Williams, Friday, 26 September 2003 19:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Friday, 26 September 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 26 September 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link
― cumming technoid, Sunday, 19 October 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:09 (twenty years ago) link
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link
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― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:33 (twenty years ago) link
Are you being contrary or just posting after listening to 10 seconds of each track? A little from column a/little from column b?
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:33 (twenty years ago) link
(Barima in intolerance non-shocker)
― Barima is pronounced 'Burma' or one of many female orgasmic sounds (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
(Most of the dance fans I know think IDM is a random, very meaningless and dumbass term, no 'fense)
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:41 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link
Next single - 'Plug It In', round mid-January time?
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link
Actually I was being a bit facetious when I referred to Basement Jaxx as IDM. I know they're not IDM because the D is actually valid. Taking the term at face value would be dance music that is "intelligent" and judging by the praise being heaped on the album, I'm surprised you'd take offense at my use of the term, Ronan. Besides, one doesn't have to have a Simon Reynolds glossary to understand whether music is moving you or not. Or to enjoy electronic or dance music. The only way my opinion could be cast aside as "uninformed" is if you're enjoying the album on some academic prog-type level, in which case my comment on this album being masturbatory would be dead-frikkin'-on.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:57 (twenty years ago) link
I also think you've no idea of the connotations of the term IDM, but that's less important.
Also I'm not really sure about this shit of "saying something", it's music for music's sake, like most worthwhile albums/singles, it doesn't have to "say" anything. That's our job.
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:12 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:15 (twenty years ago) link
I think I've only listened to it alone but then I tend to imagine what everything I listen to would be like at a party.
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link
And Plug It In will be behind some exciting premiership highlights soon enough.
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:35 (twenty years ago) link
Hey Anthony, good luck in your new bed! I hope you'll enjoy the record eventually.
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 19 October 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Sunday, 19 October 2003 21:30 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 19 October 2003 22:04 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
The album only really comes into its own, I think, when you've listened to it enough that the surprises and interruptions are no longer so startling but rather form the very fabric of the song, such that they sound normal. There's almost nothing more enjoyable than listening to a Basement Jaxx song and waiting for the next little left-field hook to arrive and then hearing it arrive. This is the Jaxx's secret I think - not making grooves that sound wacky so much as making wacky grooves sound like the most natural thing in the world. Of course this doesn't explain the people here who *instantly* thought the album was the best thing ever, but it explains my relationship to it at least.
None of this is a criticism by the way - it's a kind of roundabout compliment actually, and I reiterate that Kish Kash has become my album of the year and favourite of the three (albeit slowly) - but I can see how this process could leave some listeners initially underwhelmed.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 20 October 2003 01:53 (twenty years ago) link
That said, I can see not liking the album altogether. Ultimately it's not really *about* anything, it's more propelled by it's own energy. Like sitting and bouncing up and down just cuz. I have no problem at all like this and basically use it to lend that energy to myself! That said I tend to skip over a few tracks that don't fit this reading. "Supersonic" which drags like that REALLY EXCITING PARTY that doesn't have the sense to end (no arc) and "Cish Cash," which is like a fun party trick but eh, repetitive lyrics.
Tonight->Hot N Cold->Living Room is sheer fucking genius, though. And "Lucky Star" is what Dizzee's album sounded like in my head before I heard it!
― rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 02:25 (twenty years ago) link
― rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 02:34 (twenty years ago) link
I want to be totally supportive of the berserker vocal but it sounds like she just doesn't have enough to do.
Where's that "I just want you to holler right now!" sample from? I swear I've heard it before.
― rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 02:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:06 (twenty years ago) link
I think the "show me you're a man" bit is the vocalist? Just doing something really wacky with hr voice.
― rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link
One of the nice things about being in London last week -- seeing the huge fuck-off ads for the album everywhere in the Tube.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 03:39 (twenty years ago) link
Also, Good Luck is way WAY WAY better than Romeo - anyone who thinks otherwise=mentalist.
I'm amazed what a lukewarm reception the album is getting, critically, but yes, every review is saying much the same thing (great 1st half, dodgy 2nd half) but I really don't understand the hate for If I Ever Recover.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:12 (twenty years ago) link
― minna (minna), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 09:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick H, Monday, 20 October 2003 09:48 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link
I love Romeo, possibly prefer it to Good Luck, but don't make me choose. Good Luck I find is a record really geared towards physical response, I know dancing to Romeo is great but Good Luck seems like some democratisation of drum and bass rhythms which to a dnb illiterate like me is very attractive.
Matt who was hating on If I Ever Recover? As I keep saying I think it is genius.
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:41 (twenty years ago) link
― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 20 October 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:02 (twenty years ago) link
The "Lucky Star" mentalism still escapes me. It's nice enough but it's rather blatantly the second-worst track on the album (the worst being "Supersonic").
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:08 (twenty years ago) link
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link
Right Here's The SpotFeels Like HomePlug It InCish CashIf I Ever RecoverGood LuckHot N ColdLiving Room TonightLucky StarSupersonic
I think the people talking about "Basement Jaxx does the unexpected!" being completely the wrong way of looking at them these days are absolutely correct. The genius of the Jaxx doesn't lie in newness or wackiness as much as it lies in their frightening ability to generate the perfect groove out of anything. (On a complete tangent, I think someone else said this already but "Right Here's The Spot" = "All The Critics Luv U In New York 2003" and is all the better for it.)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link
Lucky Star and Jaxx trax at their best don't need to be conventionally banging or loud to make you want to react insanely. I was talking about it on my blog earlier this week, that x factor which makes some tracks feel "harder" or inspires a more over the top physical response. I'm not sure what it is but Lucky Star definitely has it if you ask me.
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link
Despite the way I ranked the tracks, the true strength of the album lies in the quiet downtempo tracks. "Feels Like Home" is just so effortlessly gorgeous, and "If I Ever Recover" can float through my head all day.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link
Ronan's point about dance reactions is pretty otm - I'm the only person I know who could dance to the Cornelius remix of Coldcut for example. Also, I think 'Lucky Star', with its suggestion and tentative embraces of millions of other directions within the song, like the rest of the first half comes off like a series of spasms or some crazy ball of repressed energy that keeps sparking up while someone tries to keep it under control.
Or, uh, that was how I tried to intepret my own thoughts to concur with Ronan's.
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link
*me being hilarious
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:14 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:24 (twenty years ago) link
stevem: stop waiting!! buy a robert owens or mr fingers album!
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link
Because as we all know they are actually ambient meditative droners.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 October 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:11 (twenty years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 20 October 2003 21:00 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link
Remedy and Rooty made me boogie when I saw them 'played' live, BTW.
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 20 October 2003 23:31 (twenty years ago) link
Ronan I think that the point is that the songs are manic *and* totally natural sounding grooves. The entire project of the three albums taken in succession is "how far away from a conventional house groove can we push this and still make people dance like it *is* a conventional house groove even though it's not?" I think this is particularly obvious you compare the singles from each album.
If the Jaxx actually went overboard into totally non-groovy wackiness (it could happen, although in fact I'm half expecting their next album to be relatively straightforward for some reason) it would actually be a bit like what Reynolds describes Kish Kash as being.
As is common with really good dance producers, the duo treat their choice of "genre" like a rubberband, stretching it as far as it can go without snapping. You can feel the tension created in the music, and it's that, coupled with the realisation that this rubberband really should have snapped by now, which makes the music so exciting. Obviously once the band does snap though all the tension is lost (presumably see The Love Below here - I've yet to hear it).
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 00:55 (twenty years ago) link
one question i have for those who seem to be setting up an opposition between the wackiness and the groove element -- it seems to me that here the wackiness is an essential constituent of the groove itself; it's stitched right into each song's fabric rather than being stacked on top of it like so many jenga pieces. which is part of the reason why i find this album so enthralling. it's the gift that keeps on giving.
― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 07:21 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 07:29 (twenty years ago) link
Mind you Ned, that was kinda amusing. 'Fells Like Home' as the blueprint for BJ4, haha.
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 07:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:44 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:52 (twenty years ago) link
He didn't much like Rooty either, apart from "Get Me Off" and "Where's Your Head At" (ie. the most straightforward grooves on the album). Maybe he just prefers the Jaxx really stripped back.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 09:03 (twenty years ago) link
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― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 10:56 (twenty years ago) link
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― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:22 (twenty years ago) link
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― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link
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― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:51 (twenty years ago) link
i was listening to kish kash on the way home and getting very, very excited about seeing them again. it's going to be even betten than it was two years ago, i think.
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:22 (twenty years ago) link
I've never seen the Jaxx before... can't possibly afford to miss out on this!
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 21:00 (twenty years ago) link
I'm still feeling this album's only POSSIBLE reward is maximalism but I must confess that parts of "Plug It In" are stickin' with me now (the title track too and I've GOT to hear the Rascal album). I guess me and Reynolds agree that Jaxx's pop songs are more invigorating then their maximalism. Though you're definitely right that it's more Clinton and Prince (though Jaxx could stand to incorporate a little more Bootsy).
While I think JC does a great job on his song, I don't know if Jaxx would make good producers for him. Timberlake was in a situation where the producers accidently made him their bitch by providing beats he didn't have the presence to ride confidently. Jaxx seem like they WANT to make the singers their bitches on this album, treating them like just another button to press (and it's not like they need more buttons to press). But people enjoying this as maximalism for maximalism's sake makes a LOT more sense to me than some of the other arguments do.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link
I'm gonna disagree with you, Anthony. I think they happily make the singers their bitches because it's their album and their name on the cover. I'm sure they'd see the difference when actually producing for someone else. And I do think JC has some notable presence on my fave Kish Kash track.
And I'm kinda sure you might get a little opposition to your reading of Justified. Personally, I don't quite see it as an artist album - anyone can see JT had a lot of input in the finished work. Still, you're basically asking Dan and Ned to start up again...
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link
*whistles idly*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 22:23 (twenty years ago) link
But yeah, I'm sure Jaxx tone it down a bit on the albums they produce for other people. It's just I think they should tone it down on their own albums too. Producers saying their own names repeatedly on their own albums is still annoying, if less overbearing in principle than when they're producing someone else.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), September 7th, 2003.
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 22:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
The 'you feel' bit of that post is hypothetical in case you thought I might have been intepreting your thoughts for you. Basically, it was sayin' somethin' like -
Pharell: "I want you to sound like Michael Jackson"
JT - "Why the hell not? But only if I can say "drums!" on one track and impersonate a woman."
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:09 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway, in my head JC and BJaxx have the same idyllic relationship Richard X and Javine have or (in reality) Donna and Giorgio, Bangalter and Guy-Man/Falcon, Michael with Quincy (and sanity), Cornelius and Kahimi and Prince had with reality.
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link
Looking at this line from the original press release that started this thread, I prefer a rewording to 'a much needed slop in the chaps.'
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 01:52 (twenty years ago) link
The sensation of autonomy (oddly coupled with anonymity) that characterises most of the Jaxx's vocals is a function of the increasing sense of autonomy of all the musical components - it's becoming harder and harder to locate the core-groove-component of any Jaxx track, and stuff like "Lucky Star", "Good Luck" etc. feels almost like a conversation or engagement between different groove-ideas. Without wanting to get wanky about it this reminds me of Bakhtin's ideas about Dostoevsky - where the author does not subordinate his characters to an over-arching authorial idea but rather derives meaning from the interaction of the POVs of semi-autonomous characters. A lot of Jaxx's vocals feel like that - a worldview which is engaging with the music. But that doesn't mean that they exist on a different level of existence to the music a la Justin Timberlake.
(obv. something like "Lucky Star" doesn't really fit this model b/c Dizzee is explicitly tying it in to his identity outside the song)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 01:57 (twenty years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 07:42 (twenty years ago) link
And Steve, have a laugh at some of the comments here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/dance/reviews/jaxx_kishkash.shtml
― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 08:30 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:00 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:18 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:19 (twenty years ago) link
especially daft when you consider the dross Mantronix has come out with lately - '77 Strings' was mediocre handbag cheese save for the great bassline, and his remix of Junior Senior was quite uninspiring
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:26 (twenty years ago) link
Can I use that Mantronix comment for my rebuttal, coming sometime in 2051?
― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:09 (twenty years ago) link
if you ever want a real laugh, go back and read brent d's review of rememdy.
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:00 (twenty years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link
yeah, who writes those blurbs.. ryan? can't pfork stand to admit past wrongness here? rooty "marred by hideous singles" like "romeo" and "where's your head at" and "just 1 kiss" and "get me off"??
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link
This is the most awesome piece of Ronanbait I have ever seen. Why did I never bother to read this review before?!
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:37 (twenty years ago) link
i also love how brent d's "knowledge of jungle" is animals on wheels (?!) and pork recordings!!!
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link
tim, i don't follow the comments in your second paragraph upthread. although i agree it IS becoming increasingly difficulty to find the center of the groove i think this makes the parts less autonomous, not more. i would call the parts of a straight techno track autonomous - you could isolate out the kick, or the snares or the hats, and still have the essence of the rhythm. this is fairly obvious, it's what techno djs do all the time. on the other hand there's no way to seperate out the parts of the jaxx tracks - grab the vocals from "where's your head at" like the 2manydjs did for soulwax pt. 2 and they become just so many sound effects, whereas in the context of the original track the yelping vocal track, yes, "derives meaning from the interaction" of the rhythmic parts.
maybe i'm just niggling over a small difference in terminology but i do think it's salient, esp. w/ regards to the vocals. i think the "plug it in" acapella will prove to be a weaker dj tool than "rock your body" (although the more interesting question is whether that'll hold true for the instrumentals).
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:48 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:54 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:01 (twenty years ago) link
maybe im being charitable, but i find it hard to believe that pitchfork would defile their home page with so many jay-z's, kylies and bubbas unless they were making SOME sort of concession to the pro-chart faction, no?
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link
I think he writes them all now. Ott was writing some -- if not most or all of them -- when he was working in a Senior Editor position.
FWIW, Ryan does like this album - he wouldn't include it in 'best new music' otherwise - although he is obviously overly cautious about the site’s history here. (And, I'd also guess, who he feels is its audience). (The blurb is sort of like the indie online mag version of New Soldier Field, cramming How He Feels Now in alongside the site’s archived reviews/Doric columns, as if the old PFM reviewed were protected by some sort of historical landmark status and can’t be fucked with no matter how awkwardly they fit with his opinion of B. Jaxx now.)
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:13 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link
but why not just go all the way and say "you know what, in light of x y and z, maybe it's time to reevaluate our stance on this"?
why treat archives hard and fast - like back issues of print magazines - when the one major advantage of your medium is that you CAN constantly update, revise, append?
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:18 (twenty years ago) link
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:20 (twenty years ago) link
i don't think any of us want brent's review deleted!
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:23 (twenty years ago) link
I don't know why not - like I said up thread, it would great for him to say 'hey, we were wrong'!
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 16:06 (twenty years ago) link
Okay let me kinda rephrase myself, 'cos when I said "autonomy" I sort of meant "taking a more active and independently differentiated role in deciding the nature of the groove" - by which I mean that you can't just listen to one aspect (a kickdrum) and use that to work out what another aspect (a snare pattern) is doing. Most dance music - and staple house/techno/trance especially - seems to possess a prevailing groove idea which all aspects of the music are subordinate to. Thus any component can stand in as the "center" of the groove because all components lead back to the same groove idea. With music like early jungle, 2-step or increasingly Basement Jaxx, there's a decentering effect where the prevailing groove idea can only be established by listening to the relationship between all the different components in the music - the groove idea is a dialogue, not a chorus line.
The "Plug it In" vocal *would* be weaker than other vocals as an acapella because it's like isolating a single comment from within a dialogue and expecting it to make sense on its own. Whereas a single voice singing a chorus can be transplanted to another song and still make sense, because it contains or alludes to the whole of the groove idea of the track from which it is taken (indeed you could say that the point of bootlegging vocals in dance music is to see how different groove ideas can speak to and against eachother).
I don't want to imply a value judgment though - obviously monolithically monological dance music can be and frequently is a great thing.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link
"The former N*Sync star delivers the falsetto vocal although Siouxsie Sioux was the original choice."
Thought it interesting with the back and forth on Jaxx vocals we've had.
― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:40 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
Can't see that anyone else has said this on this thread, so am I the only person who gets a wierd Supremes' 'where did our love go?' flashback in the verses of 'Good Luck'? Before that insanely uplifting chorus kicks in, and all forms of comparison just fly out of my head I'm so hyped-up. But where is the 'Living Room' love? It's adorable, sounds so sparse and lofi and stomps so cutely along: it's like Rendez-vu's cute cute cuuute little kid brother.
re 'Plug it in', Chasez' voice isn't all that recogniseable as him, I'd say. He's singing in a completely different style than he did in either 'nsync's records or what I've heard of his solo stuff (ie 'blowing me up (with her love)'). It's a lot more clipped, almost nasal at times, that strange light falsetto, not what I'd associate with him at all - although the laugh? That's so him. Adapting to the music he's working with, I'd guess, but the difference is pretty startling. To a mad 'nsync fangirl like me. ;)
And, on the basis of 'Right Here's the Spot', I now fancy Meshell N'dgeocello something rotten. gaaaaaaaaaaah.
― cis (cis), Thursday, 23 October 2003 22:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 October 2003 22:55 (twenty years ago) link
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 23 October 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 23 October 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link
...not to my knowledge, jess.
― cis (cis), Thursday, 23 October 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link
I prefer 'Tonight'.
This album has turned me into a mentalist! When I was listening to it on a listening post in a store, I damn near started to dance (without wearing no seatbelt) whenever 'Right Here's The Spot', 'Lucky Star' and 'Plug Me In' (best breaks-rock tune EVAH) kicked off. So I forced myself to make my own way home.
One of the fun suprises about Jaxx records is seeing who did uncredited vocals. Ty (UK Big Dada rapper) is on Plug It In, but you'd never tell that without looking. But the credited stuff is great of course, and reading cis' posts, I'm a little more interested in seeing what Chasez is gonna hit us with next (and I know I preferred his singing to Justin's (albeit barely) in 'Pop'). Anyone heard his BT collabs?
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 24 October 2003 08:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick H, Friday, 24 October 2003 11:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 October 2003 12:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 24 October 2003 12:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 24 October 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 24 October 2003 14:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 October 2003 14:32 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 24 October 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
DB, I'm picking mine up tomorrow, but I'm so damn tempted to buy the CD too.
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 24 October 2003 14:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 October 2003 14:44 (twenty years ago) link
All in barely two and a half minutes.
― rob geary (rgeary), Friday, 24 October 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
I've got to stop listening to this record on the bus. I'm fighting a losing battle against dancing in my seat and scaring the poor unfortunates sitting next to me.
(am I just imagining the futurama-theme-tune squiggle in Lucky Star?)
― cis (cis), Friday, 24 October 2003 22:57 (twenty years ago) link
(I also bought the Rapture's Echoes on LP but I am a little cranky that the cover is in b/w. RIPOFF)
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 24 October 2003 23:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 October 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link
Of course, it could just be karma balancing out after I found a fine-condition French pressing of Boney M's Nightflight to Venus for $5.
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 24 October 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 24 October 2003 23:31 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 24 October 2003 23:38 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 25 October 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link
― rob geary (rgeary), Saturday, 25 October 2003 06:17 (twenty years ago) link
― rob geary (rgeary), Saturday, 25 October 2003 06:18 (twenty years ago) link
Not all the songs, but some of 'em.
Well, the LP versions of Lucky Star, Right Here and Cish Cash are also available on one single (promo) 12".
― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 25 October 2003 11:30 (twenty years ago) link
Well, at least I have the cover art in 12"x12". THAT'S WORTH $35, YES.
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 25 October 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 25 October 2003 13:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 October 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 25 October 2003 18:31 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 25 October 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 26 October 2003 12:11 (twenty years ago) link
colourful, intricately carved characters - some grotesque, but all mesmerising - performing against a garish but ultimately flat, 2D landscape. the puppets are the vocalists, the backdrop is...well, everything else
i've been living with the CD for a week now, giving it due priority. It still hasn't possessed me tho', the initial thrill hasn't transformed into love. Even now, i can only recall how four or five of the tracks go. I mentioned upthread that i thought the mastering had gone wrong. I actually think it's the production itself that's at fault. The sound is muffled, no brightness at all to the treble, the beats are all sustain and no attack, the bass rumbles somewhere underground. To some extent, that's the jaxx sound ("rendez-vous" on 'remedy' for example also has those soft beats) but here I think it's fatal to the cause. If you're going to have a 'busy' sound (as Tom puts it) - not to mince words, if you're going to give us prog-house - then the details need to be crystal clear. And they're not. There's just this mass of sound in a single plane, standing about two feet behind the vocals. I'm not saying the sound is too cluttered, every note that's there should be there, but you just can't locate it spatially.
(i'm now wondering if the analog version on vinyl might do the music more justice. I'm seriously considering trading up. anyone want my CD copy? That said, i expect it won't make too much difference, the instruments were no doubt recorded digitally)
what saves the album are the - very analog - vocals. These sound just fine and what performances they are, from everyone: it's not Me'Shell who 'owns' her songs, as Dan put it, all the singers, inc. Felix, do the same with theirs, severing their puppeteer's strings in the process, and taking over the show...
― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 27 October 2003 19:09 (twenty years ago) link
― nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 27 October 2003 19:20 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 October 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link
i would be interested to know if anyone's playing it in clubs (these versions, i mean, not remixes - if such exist)
― zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 27 October 2003 19:59 (twenty years ago) link
i gave copies of this album to my favorite local DJs months ago. they were excited to get have the album and i imagine they listen to it but they haven't shown any interest in playing it out. one of them played dizzee's track the night i gave it to him but the club was basically empty.
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 October 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link
i would be caning 'right here's the spot' if i was DJing regularly right now, also 'Supersonic', 'Cish Cash' - i mean ffs what's better to dance to than this stuff?
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:45 (twenty years ago) link
But my living room is where I play all my super-fast sports car racing games
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:58 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 03:10 (twenty years ago) link
(hi fans!)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link
what does this tell us about internet 'piracy' and dance-fans ?
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:15 (twenty years ago) link
How does this compare to the performance of the last two, though?
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link
'Remedy' and 'Rooty' were both Top 10 albums i think.
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
That's for sure.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
TEMPTED
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:13 (twenty years ago) link
Hey Steve, if you're not tempted enough, Zongamin and others are live at the ICA that night. If you wanna hit Brighton, I'm up for it...
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link
Zongamin tho, NOW THERE is an idea
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link
I bought that Nikita Warren Jaxx 12" but haven't heard it yet, and I spotted the Cooly's Hot Box one too. Will I be happy with 'em?
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 17:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:36 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:40 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:41 (twenty years ago) link
It's for listening to! Does anyone actually think "I wish to ride a horse, perhaps some jeff mills, then home for sherry and groove armada".
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:52 (twenty years ago) link
Ronan's otm.
― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:57 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 30 October 2003 12:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:46 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:47 (twenty years ago) link
(sorry)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 30 October 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link
'N Sync's JC Chasez will kick off a brief club tour Dec. 3 in San Diego to build anticipation for his debut solo album, "Schizophrenic," due Jan. 27 via Jive.
The album's first single "Some Girls (Dance With Women)" featuring Dirt McGirt will be serviced to U.S. radio outlets Dec. 1 for airplay consideration. Chasez's other cohorts on "Schizophrenic" include producers Alex Greggs and Brad Daymond, Robb Boldt, Rockwilder, Basement Jaxx and BT.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:23 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link
The big draw for Jaxx fans here is whether or not they'll give him something more in line with Kish Kash or the relatively unsuprising remixes they did while making the album. A recent article did hint at a more nu-Jaxx style, though it may hve been talking about 'Plug It In' instead.
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 19:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 02:40 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 15 November 2003 02:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 November 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 01:22 (twenty years ago) link
Any idea whether Basement Jaxx plan to release a bsides/remix compilation for Kish Kash after all the singles have been released - like they did for Rooty and Remedy - it's one of the many things I love the Jaxx for.
― jedmond, Friday, 23 January 2004 02:20 (twenty years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 02:22 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 20 September 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― etc, Monday, 20 September 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Flippin' heck that Jaxx album's a bit of a flailing over-egged pudding isn't it? I suppose if your founding premise is "more is more" then it's a bit hard to back away from that or scale it down. The record only really gets enjoyable for me at the point where most reviewers seems to think it starts to flag, 2/3 the way through when it calms down a lot and empties out a bit. Otherwise it's just way crammed and fizzing with whizzing clever bits. It's like they're trying to throw the wildest grooviest party ever with the most eclectic soundtrack and the most unexplected guests (well the Siouxsie track is great admittedly), but it's all a bit strained and strenous.
― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I would like to hear a big & rich + basement jaxx collab and accompanying hysteria (both sides)
― W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― BARMS, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
This is easily my favorite of the Jaxx albums even with the utterly snoozeworthy "Supersonic" smack dab in the middle messing up the flow.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link
You changed your tune, so to speak*.
*See ILM 2000-2004 Albums Poll - Ed.
― BARMS, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio can't find his goddamn password, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― BARMS, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Not really, I've always liked it a lot, it's just one of the weaker tracks on a solid, consistent, wondrous piece of work. I just thought Dan's comment was way OTT (surprise surprise).
― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
SHOW ME YOU'RE A MAN! SHOOOOOW MEEEE YOU'RRRRE AAA MANNNN!"
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio can't find his goddamn password, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio can't find his goddamn password, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
There are exceptions though...
Search: La Cienda Honduras's cover of Chic's "Everybody Dance" from 2001
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 10:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I just don't rate Senghore, never have. So much hype and always disappointing, for me.
I probably like Remedy best of all the records, but I am so sick of Urban Outfitters staff asking me to play Basement Jaxx that I think I will one day hate them with a fever. The sentence "This is depressing, put on Basement Jaxx" actually makes my blood boil, particularly when "depressing" seems to equal anything which pauses for breath.
"Jus One Kiss" and the more purified anonymous stuff I can still handle but the mental Jaxx type stuff just annoys me now, which is kind of sad.
I sometimes think working in a record store really makes you come face to face with your own taste in a very real way, and you kind of drop alot of stuff that fitted into a nice eclectic music view you had before in favour of ploughing down certain avenues, not necessarily all one genre either.
I dunno, I just don't like Basement Jaxx anymore really.
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Was Senghore ever hyped? really?
I get blank stares from techno/house DJs everywhere in the states when I mention Senghore. The only people I have met who are fanatics as I luckily run a dance record store in Seattle.
I love Senghore.. then again, I like the weird synth noises and what not. Same with some Hakan Lidbo. To each his/her own I guess.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
btw, the dialogue upthread is one reason I try to keep myself from posting about a hyped album I've only heard once or twice. I still think Kish Kash is a saggy whole, but individual tracks are masterstrokes once you find the core track underneath all the bells and whistles.
― miccio can't find his goddamn password, Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link
It's one thing I swore I would never do. And I never have.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link
And Dan, haven't you heard that Jaxx b-side? I can't believe they attacked you like that!
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Implying "they're not 'with it'" then claiming he was a hype in summer 2003 (when most of his stuff was actually from 2000 and 2001) requires evidence from the contrary.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link
I know, the dirty bastards!
*looks around furtively* Fuck that nigger/Fuck that nigger/Dan Perry is a dick/Kick his ass/Kick his ass/Bitch-ass punk makes me sick
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
About Senghore, I was just kind of joking saying he's not with it, stuff like "Whaddup" on Underwater and a few high profile remixes like the Audio Bullys one got alot of hype in the British press in 2003.
As regards maybe it's not real dance music, you'd annoy me more if you stuck to doing yokel style racial stereotype impressions of people from far away countries you've never been to : )
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Ronan, is that because the Daft Punk saturation has not been as copious? perhaps because of the division regarding Human After All? (which in turn has really convinced me definitively that BJ are superior overall).
― $V£N! (blueski), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
I mean pre Human Afterall, I just kind of think of that as "ok". I dunno, Daft Punk style music was my favourite stuff for about 2 years!
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
The context for the hype, Donut, was that he sorta fitted into that "hooligan house" sub-genre which promised to emerge in the brief interval between disco-house and electro-house - think Armand Van Helden's "Little Black Spiders", "Where's Your Head At", Par-T-One's "I'm So Crazy", Green Velvet's "La La Land", Audio Bullys "We Don't Care" etc.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
However, those first two EPs by Chicken Lips are stone cold classics... "Shoe Beast" (which I used to have on Mp3 but lost, and sadly don't own on wax) from 1998(?) and the "Git Back" EP from 1999... fucking genius. Best dance tracks since the initial Daft Punk, Impulsion, and Micronauts.
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 19 May 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link
My fave Chicken Lips tracks are on the mix they did for DJ Magazine 4 years ago.
― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Thursday, 19 May 2005 09:01 (nineteen years ago) link
But they're done now, and now I have to get ready to go to work... so in a few hours, there will be five links up.. I'll also revive the senghore thread from years ago with the links as well. (and maybe Mark Sinkah's parody thread)
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Thursday, 19 May 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
JoB, bless his heart, started two Tony Senghore threads. Ronan bitched on the former, and was called out then. So I'm not sure why he's asking to be called again on this thread, well after the fact, especially with TEH POWAH OF WHY-ESS-EYE!
But anyway, now that "you need to hear the music when you hear it talked about" is the new meme, I'm following through with that, and mainly triggered by Ronan's insistence on bitching about Tony..(to which he can continue to bitch if he doesn't like what he hears below. Never mind my shitty musical tastes!)
La Cienda Honduras & Håkan Lidbo "Everybody Dance (Håkan's Original Mix)" [2001]:La Cienda Honduras = Tony Senghore + Martin Venetjoki. So, this is a collaboration with a collaboration featuring another Swedish dance producer, Hâkan Lidbo. And yeah, it's a "cover" of the Chic song of the same name.. moreso than Sascha Funke's "cover" of Bros' "When Will I Be Famous?", mind you. Actually, this cover sounds like a fucked up dance mix of a SWEDISH POP GROUP's cover of the Chic original, if that makes sense.
TonySenghore "This Is It" [2000]:One of the earliest singles from the original Horehaus label.. "This Is It/Feisty". This showcases the more lucid, noisy side of Senghore.
TonySenghore Feat. 7K "Herbalize Me" [2002?]:First off, WARNING! Don't d/l if you can't deal with insane, indiscernable screaming guest ragga-men! There, now for all you sane people still reading, this is a good example of Senghore staying great even relatively recently, though 7K definitely helps :) ..(although I can't tell if this is a reissue of an older single or not, but I doubt it.)
Wackdaddies"Would You" [2001]:Wackdaddies = Tony Senghore + Peter Woolford. This is from their first full release Fear Of A Wack Planet from 2001. I'm not sure "Would You" is really the title, as discogs.com lists this track as some other title off the vinyl (from whence this came), and the CD has both "Would You" and this other track title listed. My vinyl copy lists "Would You" here, so either the Under The Counter label fucked up on the sleeves, or the discogs.com member fucked up transcribing the track listing. In any case, this is a slight poppy departure on an otherwise great outlet for Senghore as far as pumpin' clicky sampling basics. The best peer album to this is The Soft Pink Truth's Do You Party?. I'm not sure Drew knows who Tony Senghore or Wackdaddies are or not. But I see a lot of similarities here, and I mean that in a good way, as both albums are extremely fun and party-worthy (excluding -- or including -- the very possibility that "Party" in Do You Party? is a reference to a far less innocent colloquialism.)
TonySenghore "Whaddup" [2003]:This is the track that apparently most everyone in the UK & Ireland first heard when they first heard of the name Tony Senghore. The lyrics are ridiculous indeed (although they're not surprising, given the lyrics on Wackdaddies' "Pay Up" from 2001 from the Pay Up EP, though the lyrics there were far funnier.) The lyrics effects are still great. Otherwise, this is quite a musical departure, in that it retains nothing that is uniquely "Senghore" form the preceding years. "Whaddup", after another listen, is still quite redeemable IMHO. At least, it's better than, say, Black Strobe's "Nazi Trance Fuck Off" (IMHO, once again.) But this definitely does have that Electric Six sensibility of "I AM THE GIORGIO MORODER!/WITH A HUGE FUCKING DICK (YEAH, I SHOWED HER!)" This song could easily fit on a mix CD with the likes of Thugfucker, Heavy Rock, and Electric Six's "Danger! High Voltage!", "Synthesizer", and perhaps stuff from the latest album. But despite the good qualities of this song, it's true that I used to buy ANYTHING with Senghore's name on it without previewing until I bought "Whaddup". Then I stopped. Then apparently Senghore stopped. *shrug*
...
I'll be posting more maybe on this thread and the former thread.. including Senghore stuff from 1999.
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
FUCK!
I had mp3s done.. No WONDER they took so long to upload :(
FUCKITY FUCK FUCK.
I'll have to try again tonight.
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
La Cienda Honduras & Håkan Lidbo "Everybody Dance (Håkan's Original Mix)" [2001] … MP3
Tony Senghore "This Is It" [2000] … MP3
Tony Senghore Feat. 7K "Herbalize Me" [2002?] … MP3
Wackdaddies "Would You" [2001] … MP3
Tony Senghore "Whaddup" [2003] … MP3
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 May 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 20 May 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
This absolutely wonderful.
― snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Can't decide which one I like more! I'll just have to listen to them one after another on repeat!!!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― snowballing (snowballing), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Dan, this song is not mentioned upthread!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 29 September 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 October 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― blueski, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― haitch, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― blueski, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Kish Kash:
OMG IT IS *STILL* SO FUCKING GOOD!
― Matt DC, Sunday, 29 July 2007 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Damn you! I thought maybe there was a new Basement Jaxx
― I know, right?, Sunday, 29 July 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
i know, right
― s1ocki, Sunday, 29 July 2007 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link
well there was the 'nifty' ep.
― haitch, Sunday, 29 July 2007 23:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, I never even heard of that.
― I know, right?, Monday, 30 July 2007 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link
producing a song on the new cyndi lauper album???
― t_g, Monday, 21 April 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link
That actually makes a strange kind of sense.
― chap, Monday, 21 April 2008 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, but the All Seeing I produced a track on Britney's first album.
Then were never seen again! all that dosh, prob.
― Mark G, Monday, 21 April 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link
also working with kele from bloc party if the track they played out in manchester recently is to go on.
― pisces, Monday, 21 April 2008 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link
No, they mailed over the backing track for a song that had already been on their own album.
― energy flash gordon, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 02:55 (sixteen years ago) link
They have remixed the new Adele single. Jaxx by numbers, not bad as such but eclipsed by the v good Rosko remix.
― blueski, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I fear they have jumped the shark, pure and simple.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 09:15 (sixteen years ago) link
kish kash :-\
― omar little, Friday, 9 May 2008 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link
wonder if they'll bounce back.
― s1ocki, Saturday, 10 May 2008 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link
i liked their first two, kk not so much
― omar little, Saturday, 10 May 2008 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link
no?
i should give it a spin now... omg... FIVE YEARS after the fact??
wo
― s1ocki, Saturday, 10 May 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link
srsly guys? kish kash is my favorite of all their records :(
― stephen, Saturday, 10 May 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah last album + adele remix = shark jump. but their recent DJing = oh my gosh!!!
― pisces, Saturday, 10 May 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I have this feeling their new record (whenever it appears) will be really good.
― Tim F, Saturday, 10 May 2008 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link
kish kash is my favorite as well.
― Creeztophair, Saturday, 10 May 2008 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I love Kish Kash, while it's not a patch on the first couple of albums it's a hell of a lot better than Crazy Itch Radio and has more than its share of awesome singles.
― Telephone thing, Saturday, 10 May 2008 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link
The first two singles from CIR are both incredible, the rest of the album not so much.
― chap, Saturday, 10 May 2008 10:46 (sixteen years ago) link
crazy itch radio is neither.
― s1ocki, Saturday, 10 May 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link
is their recent djing really that awesome?? :( man i wish i could see them. i never see that they're playing in london
― t_g, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I saw them DJ in London last November, it was very very terrible :(
― energy flash gordon, Monday, 12 May 2008 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^^ further proof that london clubs & london clubbers = not very good
― s.rose, Monday, 12 May 2008 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link
possibly true! I was afraid they were catering the awfulness to the over-designed cocktail bar crowd, but the first half-hour was incessant trebly blog-house, ADD-mixed into something else every 90 seconds. even their own Roxanne Shante collab was in distorted-treble remix form.
a couple of times they played the intro to some non-b.h. track, eg. um something Prince that I can't remember, and the crowd would get excited and start waving their hands and attempting to dance, but then it would go back to WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP SQUELCCCCH and the sardines would go back to holding their drinks at chin height and attempting to squeeze their shoulders past each others. then I left.
― energy flash gordon, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 05:56 (sixteen years ago) link
waving their hands, attempting to dance = LOL europe
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 06:06 (sixteen years ago) link
nah, cos there wasn't room to move feet or knees. or hips. or elbows.
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link
club was a converted hamburger joint - trufax
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 04:12 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1357846205ef6f6a/
― and what, Saturday, 14 June 2008 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link
OMG LEGITIMATE BUMP
― Tape Store, Saturday, 14 June 2008 01:26 (sixteen years ago) link
is anybody talking about the new album on ILM yet?Love the cover art.I like Raindrops! http://www.4shared.com/file/104151866/3dfbf8fb/Raindrops.html
― Why? I forget what biologists have suggested. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Not a huge fan of Raindrops myself, maybe it'll grow on me. Looking forward to seeing them at Big Chill in August.
― chap, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
looking forward to the tune with kele i heard *18 months ago*. if it's on the album mind.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I think "Raindrops" is a bag of sick, a really fucking stupid song that is a subpar recycling of previous Basement Jaxx hits.
― suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Great! I like it!
― If You Like to Do Graphity, Don't Do It. Pull Your Pants (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I dunno, Dan. I'm loving "raindrops" more than anything off their last album. I dig the subtle use of AutoTune (sounds like it at least) and the chorus is nothing if not hyper-elevating. The final "I 'll follow you" coo-cooing could've been left out, though.
― Marcus Brody Ta-Dow! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r6FhwCxjUc
― butthurt (deej), Monday, 27 July 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
^ not as bad as him live with them earlier in the year, kinda bearable, but seriously guys wtf
― King Boy Pato Banton (sic), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKHlh2UNiew&feature=related
This is actually kind of good...?
― Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i hated Raindrops first listen, and i still think the vocalist is terrible (not that i'd expect anything less from a BJ single), but it has grown on me tons--still kind of retarded, but in a lovable way. listening to the other new songs i think it's going to be the same deal
― een, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link
weirdly enough the b-side of 'raindrops' was really excellent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghsq9PnHGRg
i have my suspicions about the presence of sam sparro but excited about the santogold one. both can wait until i don't have a head cold.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 09:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Enjoying this hugely. The Yoko Ono track is the first time I've heard a vocalist manage to match B.Jaxx for turn-on-a-dime maximalism, and the Kelis track is a nice reminder of Kaleidescope/Wanderland/etc.
― etc, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NFk3bavv64
okay this is more like what I wanted to hear
― it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Monday, 10 August 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't think much of it at first but "Raindrops" keeps popping up in my mind multiple times a day.
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 10 August 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
dont get how raindrops can be a 'grower' -- its so pretty. i mean if yr not over them not making strict dancefloor music at THIS point .... i guess it wasnt that weird of a song
― butthurt (deej), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I might agree with that point if I thought "Raindrops" was pretty. I think both "Hey You" and "Take Me Back To Your House" off CIR are much much much much MUCH better.
― it's like i have a couple worked up vadges under my arms (HI DERE), Monday, 10 August 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
??? 'raindrops' strikes me much more as a kind of ham-fisted, weary attempt to make a strict dancefloor banger, don't get any sense of even attempted prettiness from it. god, even its basic melody is so tedious and tired.
there's some good stuff on the album (tho), 'scars' with kelis, meleka and chipmunk in particular.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Uk Wuk! Promo copy finally! Cracking now!
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 September 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
This has been on Luisterpaal for a little while but I've honestly been afraid to listen. Crazy Itch Radio did little or nothing for me, and while I love "Raindrops" that is a deeply troubling set of guest vocalists.
― More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Monday, 21 September 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE 'LUDES
― unban dictionary (blueski), Monday, 21 September 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I like this a lot more than Crazy Itch Radio.
The Yoko Ono track is the first time I've heard a vocalist manage to match B.Jaxx for turn-on-a-dime maximalism, and the Kelis track is a nice reminder of Kaleidescope/Wanderland/etc.
― etc, Monday, August 10, 2009 2:34 PM Bookmark
"Supersonic"! The Yoko track is complete insanity, but let us not forget that one.
― the smug persian (The Reverend), Sunday, 11 October 2009 07:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't like this very much when I listened :-(
― Tim F, Sunday, 11 October 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
yah same -- i only listened once & like nothing was grabbing me ... kinda think matt p's review was almost too generous to it, out of obligation
― i got nothin (deej), Sunday, 11 October 2009 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link
do still love raindrops tho
Interestingly, I feel like they're still pushing themselves, still trying to screw their fizzy hysteria tighter and tighter, but it long ago passed the point ("Supersonic", basically) where anything of actual value would be achieved by this.
They seem pretty disinterested in crafting actually good dancefloor grooves now.
― Tim F, Sunday, 11 October 2009 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I keep lolling at the cell phone ad that uses "Raindrops" whenever it comes on.
"Supersonic" only works for me when played at deafening volume on headphones; generally when the Jaxx goes into abstract groove territory, I like it a lot more when they go more minimal, a la "Fly Life". Otherwise I really like their take on pop music, which is why I ended up liking Crazy Itch Radio so much despite hating "Hush Boy" ("Take Me Back To Your House" is a top-ten Jaxx track for me).
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Sunday, 11 October 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link
haha why on earth did you hate 'hush boy' out of curiosity?
― i got nothin (deej), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link
This new one is terrible. The best track is the "Sleep Walk" homage, and that's a problem.
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
And, yeah, "Take Me Back" is the only thing from their last album that's survived on my iPod.
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
The Grover voice on the chorus is deeply irritating and the general vibe of the track is too staid to be funky enough to overcome that irritation.
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, "Hush Boy" is awful. Hate the vocals, music isn't anywhere near interesting enough to overcome that.
― the smug persian (The Reverend), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
(haha actually if "Supersonic" had a memorable snare in the beat I would probably dig it a lot more)
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Sunday, 11 October 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
u guys are weirdos .... & there are a bunch of good tracks on that lp .... but whatever i guess this has been gone over before
― i got nothin (deej), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
The Grover Fozzie voice on the chorus is deeply irritating excellent
― modescalator (blueski), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
really love Supersonic too
i think the best track on Scars is probably one of those mellower Latin/Brazilian-sounding ones at the end - can't get excited about the Kelis and Santigold contribs much at all
― modescalator (blueski), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
I like "Hush Boy" much more than the overly cutesy "Take Me Back To Your House", though it did take me a while to warm fully to the former after previous 1st singles had been so startling.
― Tim F, Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Like Scars a lot more than I thought I would, but this and Crazy Itch strike me much more as straight pop albums than dance albums. Not at all a bad thing, but there's something about it that feels funny.
Sam Sparro's vocals are annoying on Feelings Gone.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Monday, 12 October 2009 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Sam Sparro is annoying? Gee golly whiz.
― the smug persian (The Reverend), Monday, 12 October 2009 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, I enjoyed his album, so I don't typically find him annoying.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Monday, 12 October 2009 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link
This album is pretty ropey stuff - why on earth would you go to all the trouble of getting Kelis on a track and then give her something that weedy to work with?
― Matt DC, Monday, 12 October 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
count me in as another baffled crazy itch lover - this album is beyond dismal though.
― r|t|c, Monday, 12 October 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I also love the Robyn track on CIR, esp. the part where it breaks down with the slow horns and ramps back up all klezmery and awesome.
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Monday, 12 October 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
it really is almost darkly impressive on this the way every appalling guest they bring in is just the most savagely extreme sabotaging of every relevant jaxx element you'd previously enjoyed, one by one. tender guitarry moment - lightspeed champion! rococo tuba romp - paloma faith!
― r|t|c, Monday, 12 October 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
ha so this is their "fuck you, fans" album?
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Monday, 12 October 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
okay I'd forgotten that I actually fucking love the song "Scars"
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Monday, 12 October 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Am I the only one who LOVES this new album? Top ten placement of the year, easily.
Masterworks, all:
ScarsRaindropsShe's No GoodFeelings GoneTwerkDay of the Sunflowers (We March On)Stay CloseGimme Somethin' True
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link
The singles don't stand up to the Remedy/Rooty era (aside from "Raindrops," maybe their best EVER) but those albums were packed with filler as well. I think Scars is their most consistent this side of Kish Kash.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:02 (fourteen years ago) link
"Raindrops," maybe their best EVER
whoa, there
― on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, October 12, 2009 10:02 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha this post makes no sense -- convinced ilxor is a sock
― i got nothin (deej), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm serious! Most of the filler tracks on Scars hold up just as well as "U Can't Stop Me" or "Don't Give Up" or "Broken Dreams" or "I Want U," if not better.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
There is really no filler imo in either Remedy or Rooty.
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 05:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Most of the filler tracks on Scars hold up just as well as "U Can't Stop Me" or "Don't Give Up" or "Broken Dreams" or "I Want U," if not better.
These are all classic tracks, you should be ashamed ilxor.
The idea that Remedy has filler and/or "drops off" in the second half is totally a bizarro myth with no basis in reality.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link
only wack track on Remedy is "Same Old Show"
― on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 06:20 (fourteen years ago) link
'same old show' is amazing!
sorta spins me out that remedy is 10 years old.
― racist of the falling leaves (haitch), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link
"where did our youth go", etc
― racist of the falling leaves (haitch), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link
"only wack track on Remedy is "Same Old Show""
Rev this is the wrongest thing i've think I've seen from you.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 07:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Sorry, it makes me feel claustrophobic and uncomfortable. My dislike of it is very physical.
― on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 07:32 (fourteen years ago) link
If that makes sense.
It does, but at the same time I think "Same Old Show" is basically a purified hit of what was so amazing about basement jaxx circa 1999. I sort of feel like they've forgotten how amazing a vibe and friction you can generate just by looping a few carefully selected elements over one another.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link
'Same Old Show' is probably my least favourite track on 'Remedy' fwiw tho Tim otm about why its a good club track (not quite as much as 'Set Yo Body Free' and a few more of their earlier deep club tracks tho - but then these probably wouldn't have worked as well on the album for that very reason)
― modescalator (blueski), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 09:12 (fourteen years ago) link
tbh if the Jaxx released an album that was 45 minutes of "Samba Magic" I would wholly and unreservedly call them the greatest musical act I'd ever heard
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe u should check the airto song it samples?
― i got nothin (deej), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I am and it's awesome!
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Somehow I never heard "Samba Magic" until I sought it out yesterday and it completely owned me.
― on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ftr the Airto sonf deej mentions:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zUNmoKU9UE
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
song, even
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDfDp-e9t0w&feature=related
btw, annoying clipping aside this is pretty awesome; like this lady's vocals a ton
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
best track off CIR still 'Smoke Bubbles' for me
― modescalator (blueski), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
that one is also pretty hot, yeah
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
still hate "Raindrops" btw
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
okay playing this now
5 songs in and only "Scars" is actually worth listening to. "Weedy" is exactly how I would describe my listening experience; it's almost like they cut the core out of every song as part of the mastering process.
wholly awesome art tho
― RETARTED (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 October 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
"My Turn" is decent, actually! So that's two songs out of 6 that I like plus one that is okay ("Saga"), two I never want to hear again ("Raindrops", "Feelings Gone") and one I actually can't remember even though I just heard it ("She's No Good").
― RETARTED (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 October 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
never been able to hear "Smoke Bubbles" as its own song because of how much it rips off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNajx1cD5T4
― doe-eyed chicks get wiped out, fatally (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 October 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
u of all people should understand the difference between sampling/interpolating & 'ripping off' -- same guitar part but totally diff tracks
― i got nothin (deej), Thursday, 15 October 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
In theory, yeah. Sometimes it's hard to dissasociate these things in practice, though.
― doe-eyed chicks get wiped out, fatally (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 October 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
listening to their Zephyr EP thing now - seems to be a more laidback experimental affair
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i think this album was drastically underrated
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link
There are only 4 songs on it that I really ever want to hear again ("Scars", "My Turn", "Twerk", "Day of the Sunflowers (We March On)").
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I forgot how completely insane the Yoko track is
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost. Add Raindrops to that list and I'm with you.
― everything, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
no way, that song is garbage
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"Raindrops" is pretty awesome imo
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
? No accounting for taste I guess. It just seems like a classic BJ song in every way. Anyway, 4 or 5 awesome tracks on an album isn't that bad these days. Plus, that pretty much describes their last three albums in my opinion, so pretty much par for the course.
― everything, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
took me a while to realize that
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not going to go to the mat for Crazy Itch Radio because life is too short and the bad tracks on there are pretty bad, even if there are only 2 of them, but saying there are only 4 or 5 awesome tracks on Kish Kash is just nonsense. Even the songs I find dubious ("Supersonic", "Tonight") are way, way, WAY better than the average level of quality on Scars.
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Fair enough. Kish Kash is pretty awesome but not without filler. Without going through it track by track, there's probably still only 6 or 7 tracks that I really like. Scars is a little bit disappointing overall but the good songs are as good as anything they've done before.
― everything, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I like it.http://pitchfork.com/news/50302-listen-new-basement-jaxx-single-back-2-the-wild/did this get discussed already?
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
alsohttp://thump.vice.com/words/basement-jaxx0back-2-the-wild-gorgon-jaxx-dub
― brb buying poppers w/my employee discount (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
i just realised they had a new single today. haha wow. it's sad days when not even ILM can rouse itself to talk about a new jaxx single.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
ha well, that's kind of what happens when you suddenly become super terrible
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
aw, back 2 the wild was pretty good!
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 May 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z8tpaxaipU
― tarping, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
kinda meh?
― blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 August 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
Headlining that Alex James/Jamie Oliver festival, aren't they? The one where the former will be photographed with Cameron and Clarkson and the latter will play drums for Toploader.
― djh, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
Mind you, they could redeem themselves by playing a conceptual show about the wonderfulness of the NHS.
― djh, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
didn't this happen circa 2001?
― the late great, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
No results found for "Amish Techno Fan".
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
I sort of feel like they've forgotten how amazing a vibe and friction you can generate just by looping a few carefully selected elements over one another.
remember house music?
― the late great, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
Yes, but the greatness of "Same Old Show" (my favourite BJ tune) and "Flylife" are not antithetical to the greatness of Rooty and Kish Kash except for an insane prince of false binaries
― Tim F, Friday, 9 August 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link
so what you're saying is i'm insane to dislike rooty and kish kash
not sure what the false binary is here, i mean i guess "basement jaxx were good when doing house music and not so good when not doing house music" is sort of a binary but it's more a matter of taste than a matter of logic
― the late great, Friday, 9 August 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link
jokes bruv.
I feel like what we see with BJ's development is much more of a typical arc where an artist comes up with a distinctive take on genre X, then gradually detaches that which is distinctive from the specific genre form such that it can be deployed in a variety of settings, but it's like from that point onwards a clock starts ticking and the shelf-life of the production aesthetic is limited when trying to survive out there all on its ownsome.
So, sure, in Kish Kash (less so Rooty which is still mostly house and barely less genre-loyalist then Remedy) you can see the seeds of their subsequent deterioration, but to describe everything after Remedy as super-terrible seems to me the equivalent of dismissing all techstep ever because it got super-boring after a while.
― Tim F, Friday, 9 August 2013 07:11 (ten years ago) link
Feel certain that if Cameron is seen boogying to Basement Jaxx with Alex 'n' Jamie 'n' Clarkson that should be enough to finish him off.
― djh, Sunday, 1 September 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
I know there hasn't been a good Basement Jaxx album in a decade but this new one... isn't bad at all. It's like all the developments in British dance music over the past two years have given them license to jump back on their own bandwagon rather than just churning out another aimless pick-and-mix record.
Only halfway through, mind, it may yet fall off a cliff.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
It does fall off a cliff, unfortunately.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
What's the News is pushing my buttons in a good way. How much longer before I get to the cliff?
― Everyone's a closet ned. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
You're right on the precipice.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link
be that as it may, i am deeply infatuated with mermaid of salinas which gets stuck in my head on a nearly daily basis
― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
The first half of this album feels like they took every song on Scars that didn't work and woodsheded them into something good-to-awesome
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 12:39 (nine years ago) link
ha for a second i thought this was the zach braff thread and i only half-understood dan's post
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 29 August 2014 12:49 (nine years ago) link
hahaha
btw this is maybe just me but holy shit @ "Buffalo", that is my shit right there
― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link
hypedhttp://cityparksfoundation.org/event/summerstage-basement-jaxx/
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
tonight!with Masters at Work, The Internet and Fei Fei
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
Nothing new, afaik, but I was listening to "Kish Kash" and one of my kids said "this sounds like flying monkeys crossed with Bollywood," and I said OTM, and she said that was not a compliment.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 August 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link
But are your kids at least using words like "OTM"?
― MarkoP, Monday, 31 August 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link
no.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 August 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link