― Jordan, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Josh, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― chaki, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
What I've heard by her I'm indifferent to. Indifferent, note: not excited, but not repulsed as I am by Macy Gray and her acolytes. I can't help thinking that Badu was the (unwitting?) catalyst for the whole odious u-soul thing in that she appeared before any of its perpetrators (and before Lauryn Hill had gone solo) and her influence seems to have run through those who have followed.
So: Erykah Badu - not dud / subsequent nu-soul - ultimate dud.
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― chaki, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Patrick, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Omar, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Macy Gray needs to go far, far away. Jill Scott rocks the house like nobody's business.
― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Lesley Higgins, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex in nyc, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― chaki, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
i was just expressing to josh how much i like jill scott better than erykah. i need to think about this for a while.
― ethan, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― chaki, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
"On and On" was great. Subsequently releases have been progressively mediocre (funny how D'Angelo and Erykah have both nosedived considerably as the genre they helped create has risen in profile). Jill Scott is much better, 'cos she has actual tunes, delightful voice and relatively nice production. Angie Stone should be a house diva, not an R&B diva. Musiq Soulchild is forgettable. India.Arie = too far pleased with herself.
― Tim, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
If Miles actually said that about Louis Armstrong, he's an even bigger idiot than I thought he was, and you're an even bigger idiot than him for going along with that nonsense.
BTW, unlike TimF I think that Erykah Badu and D'Angelo have improved a lot since their debuts.
― Patrick, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Ooh, two top lies in one small sentence. a. Miles hated Satchmo = rubbish, because he workshipped him and never stopped saying so. b. Satchmo as Uncle Tom = typical latecome look-at-me advertorial by young soon-to-be-sellouts manipulatively presenting THEIR industry-friendliness as some species of Radical Cultural Politics. Armstrong = most revolutionary American artist of 20th century in all art-forms (by some way).
Destiny's Child = second. (OK, I'm joking. Fourth.)
― mark s, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
But this bullshit about you-chumps-are-in-denial-blah-blah is still bullshit.
― Josh, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Omar, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I agree! The music industry does it all time! To say they don't and i'm crazy for thinking so is seriously pathetic. When Ms. Badu first came out she was critically acclaimed and recieved lots of airplay. As she progressed as an artist her views and music became more radical. The american press and radio pretty much pushed her aside. The record company didn't publisize her last record in the states at all. Now that her head is shaved and she's talking hardcore black power, she is a complete nobosy as far as the buisness is concerned. Fortunatly she can still pack an arena so she can still make hers. Bling Bling. Oh and Miles did say that about Satchmo.
― chaki, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Using me to go off on a misdirected rant = DUD.
― Dan Perry, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex in nyc, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
saw her on wednesday at manchester apollo -she asked the crowd "y'all wanna throw y' hands in the air and scream y' own name?" and then everybody (everybody!) did just that.
you didn't get that on radiohead's tent tour i'll tells y' that.
― piscesboy, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― T. Watts, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 08:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Love of My Life" has the honour of being the first track that I regret not hearing in time for a best of 2002 list. It's not the first hip-hop nostalgia song, but it's the first one I've heard that really gives a feeling of what it's like to grow up with hip-hop ("I met him when I was a lttle girl...") And then Common genderfucks the personification, and even gives the gangstas their due (aside: is Electric Circus any good?) If the track lacks harsh words to say about its subject, that's not the purpose of odes.
Nice orchestral/kitchen appliance/something sound FX too. Anyone know who produced this - Erykah, or someone else?
― B.Rad (Brad), Thursday, 9 January 2003 11:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
I dont know where to start, this is crass racial paternalism at it's most disgusting.
― robert lashley (brotherman), Thursday, 9 January 2003 23:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
.....or perhaps it's simply a difference of opinion.
― Motel Hell (vassifer), Friday, 10 January 2003 01:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbneb, Friday, 10 January 2003 08:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
one of the best artists of the last ten years.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 18 November 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Finally:
Erykah Badu revealed the new title of her fourth album, "Nu AmErykah," to a small room of fans in New York's Electric Lady studios last Thursday (Dec. 6). The set is due Feb. 26 via Universal Motown.
In reference to the prior provisional title, "Kabbah," Badu says that that name was never final and that she prefers to wait and title her albums once they're finished.
"I named this album 'Nu AmErykah' because I'm dealing with whatever is to come instead of what was," said Badu, decked out in jeans, a red kimono and her trademark afro. "In taking on a project like this, I'm taking the responsibility to talk for my race and my planet. I'm sure the record company will make their money and they've given me the blessing of time."
Badu's last EP, "Worldwide Underground," arrived in 2003 without much fanfare, but it still sold 609,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. "I didn't feel like doing the whole promotional circuit for that record," she admitted. "I'd just had a baby."
Making up for lost time, "Nu AmErykah" includes 18 songs that will be spread over two separately sold discs. The first single, "Honey," was produced by 9th Wonder and the '70s soul-tinged "Soldier 7" may be the follow-up track.
"We've waited almost 10 years for this album to come," said Universal executive vice president and Motown president Sylvia Rhone. "She inspires, sets trends and does music that no one's done before. Male, female, black white can listen to her and come away with something."
Here is the track list for "Nu AmErykah":
"American Promise" "The Healer" "Me" "My People" "Speech" "Soldier 7" "The Cell" "Twinkle" "Love Me" "Honey" "Emotions" "Don't Be Long" "YPOM" "Hot Slow Jam" "Jump Up in the Air" "Loretta Brown" "Dirty Dirty" "The Healer Outro"
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link
release date?
― Jordan, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Feb. 26th
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 10 December 2007 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
awes
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 10 December 2007 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
i love her.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 10 December 2007 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
...and I still haven't fucking heard Mama's Gun. WTF?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 04:53 (sixteen years ago) link
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9453/ebadnewamerykahokpthumbrc8.jpg
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link
that is so awesome
― stevie, Thursday, 24 January 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I have to say, I still think she's quite high on herself and quite possibly nuts, but her music has grown on me -- and most of my favorite artists are damn high on themselves and entirely nuts anyway.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
'Otherside of the Game' is a very pretty song.
― chap, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Worldwide Underground has really grown on me, I love that shit.
― Jordan, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
'The Healer' on YouTube.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link
That's good.
― chap, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah. I was worried that there wouldn't be any weird/playful shit on this album, just boring "soulful" beats.
― Jordan, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Badu caters to the record geeks in her video for "Honey":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNJt5ADHzIY
Can YOU name all the albums?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 14 February 2008 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link
the only ones i didnt know were the diana ross one and the rufus+chaka one.
― pipecock, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
nice video. she looks pretty hot doing the ohio players sleeve.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Saturday, 16 February 2008 11:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I still think she's quite high on herself and quite possibly nuts
This album will remove any doubt on the latter proposition. Whoa!
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 06:53 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah this shit is crazy. "The Cell"!!! WOW.
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 22 February 2008 08:15 (sixteen years ago) link
"Soldier" & "Telephone" are wicked as well... can't wait to buy this on tuesday.
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 22 February 2008 08:16 (sixteen years ago) link
this is hotness
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 22 February 2008 09:02 (sixteen years ago) link
"The Cell" and "Master Teachers" are both !!!!!!!!!!!
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Honestly, "Honey" at the end of the album after all this can't help but sound a little meh.
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link
dang youze guys are good at finding this stuff, I feel so old-fashioned for having to wait
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link
havent heard any of this new stuff aside from honey. is it in the vein of WWU aka sounds like moodymann producing it?
― pipecock, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
It seems the total flip of WU. Both are diffuse, but that one felt relaxed and smooth and this one is some cracked avant nuttiness.
I love that "Honey" video, though. When the beat gets all militant as the "support your local record store" title flashes up and then the freaky Planet of the Apes ending?!
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
there were some (relatively) hard beats on WWU! "diffuse" is a pretty good description, though.
― Jordan, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
hmm, i cant wait to hear this shit.
― pipecock, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
That's true (I forgot how some of the songs on WU/WWU approach near-technoid quality), but the new one has hard beats and even harder melodies/harmonies/hooks/synth lines.
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
"Honey" is one of the best songs out
― deej, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
(xpost) I love that the opening track is sort of a fake out that way.
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I was bored by most of WU, this sounds like a big return to Mama's Gun stuff, which is pretty much the apex of avant-soul to me. Yay times 20000. /raggett
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i would call WWU "atmospheric" for lack of better term. the songs all kind of flowed together, the songs seemed less "written" and more improvised. i was kind of hoping for her to go further down that route, but really with the way the recent jill scott albums have sucked and the fact that maxwell and d'angelo are nowhere to be found, it will just be good to have someone making some good soul in the limelight again.
― pipecock, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link
The irony is that this one sounds a lot MORE like a collective jam session than WWU, at first listen.
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link
There's a lot of skippable experimental shit on WWU, but there are some pretty tight tunes on there too (the track w/Dead Prez, Danger, the Funk You Up remake, Back in the Day).
― Jordan, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I loved it when I first bought it, but I can only stand one (1) song about the glory of marijuana on an album and that one had like seven it seemed like.
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 22 February 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I should add that there are a couple other, um, traditional neo-soul tracks mixed in here. "Soldier" for sure, and "Me" is pretty straight up Mama's Gun stuff.
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
WWU had "Bump It" then "Back in the Day" then "I Want You" = stone cold classic.
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Lyric from "Me": "I salute you Farrakhan, 'cause you are me."
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
UH OH
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 22 February 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link
lol
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link
The change in "That Hump" ... wau!
It's at this point that I disclose I'm not to be trusted on matters Badu. I am as blinded by fandom as Badu and I are both w.r.t Chaka Khan.
― Eric H., Friday, 22 February 2008 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
what the hell is the point of being all objective about E.Badu -- or Chaka Khan really either? they fine, they weird, rara aves, let 'em fly
― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 22 February 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
"Got love for my folks/ Baptized when the levee broke."
Oh man "Soldier" is so righteous.
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 22 February 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link
-- The Reverend, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:53 AM (2 months ago)
you should definitely do this now if you haven't already.
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 25 February 2008 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Eric H., Friday, February 22, 2008 8:06 PM (3 days ago)
Yes! this song is incredible.
I'm so in love with this album OMG.
I don't see how New Amerykah Pt. 2: Return of The Ahnk (out in July) can top this.
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 25 February 2008 07:16 (sixteen years ago) link
this album is so great
― deej, Monday, 25 February 2008 07:17 (sixteen years ago) link
this album is kind of bleak though, it's like a post-crack blaxploitation soundtrack or something.. "that hump" is brutal
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 25 February 2008 07:18 (sixteen years ago) link
wowowowowow loving this
― chaki, Monday, 25 February 2008 07:23 (sixteen years ago) link
-- The Brainwasher, Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
i know, right?
― The Reverend, Monday, 25 February 2008 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, this album's second half is intense and terrifying.
― Eric H., Monday, 25 February 2008 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link
And then comes "Honey."
DAMN YOU GUYS WHERE DO YOU FIND THSI STUFF
― Dimension 5ive, Monday, 25 February 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link
glad everyone likes this so much. cant wait to hear it.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 25 February 2008 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link
wow "The Cell."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 25 February 2008 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I cannot wait to hear this tomorrow.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 25 February 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link
D5, it's as simple as a well-timed Google blog search.
― Eric H., Monday, 25 February 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link
man this album is good
this album is like the ultimate sum-is-more-than-the-parts and i think she deserves the credit for that
― deej, Monday, 25 February 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link
haha eric h. what do you think i've been doing for the last few days? well other than being sick as fuc and taking a shitload of ibuprofen and trying not to scream that is.
― Dimension 5ive, Monday, 25 February 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmm, maybe it's down already. I found it pretty quick.
― Eric H., Monday, 25 February 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, search "amerykah"
― Eric H., Monday, 25 February 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
does no one feel guilty that they have got this for free?
― mr x, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah definitely, when I heard "Badu over Sa-Ra, Madlib,, & 9th Wonder beatz" I was like "eh....." but this is amazing.
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm buying it tomorrow so I don't feel guilty at all. Those that aren't buying it SHOULD feel guilty and BURN IN HELL tho.
yeah definitely, when I heard "Badu over Sa-Ra, Madlib,, & 9th Wonder beatz" I was like "eh....." but this is am
ok, this makes me excited.
― Jordan, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah I'm-a hit up Target at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow.
― Dimension 5ive, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
im very excited. im gonna wait til it comes out properly though.
― mr x, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
i havent felt a single sa-ra track thus far. hopefully this will change when i get this one tomorrow.
― pipecock, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
not even this one?
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't feel guilty to the extent that I didn't get the review copy I was supposed to be sent.
― Eric H., Monday, 25 February 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Not that I write reviews anywhere, but ...
― Eric H., Monday, 25 February 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link
-- The Brainwasher, Monday, February 25, 2008 11:08 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
b-b-b-but I am broke. Why are you condemning all us broke folk to eternal fire?
― The Reverend, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link
hay I'm a poor college student! I saved my lunch money for this. NO EXCUSES!!
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
you need to work harder. hahahaha.
and yeah, not that track either. i just dont understand sa-ra. they were one of those "i heard the hype long before i heard any of their music" types, and nothing has even been remarkable to me in any way. in fact, i kind of hate them. but if they bring the goods for ms badu, that's whats up.
― pipecock, Monday, 25 February 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
To be clear, I will buy this one.
― Eric H., Monday, 25 February 2008 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link
i love the living daylights out of this. the sleeve artwork and lyric sheet artwork is killer too.
― stevie, Monday, 25 February 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm a poorer college student who doesn't have any lunch money! Prick.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link
no lunch money? wow :(
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 01:34 (sixteen years ago) link
poor thing
literally LOLOLOLZ
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link
wow "The Cell."-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, February 25, 2008 3:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, February 25, 2008 3:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
The breakbeat on this is suspiciously similar to the one on As One's "Planetary Folklore" (or some other late '90s Degiorgio track).
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Reposting 'cause I'm more likely to get an answer in this thread:
Anyone know who's responsible for the crazy synth shit on some of those late '70s Nancy Wilson albums (one of the tracks off Music on My Mind is the root of "Honey")? Guessing it's either Larry Farrow or Clarence McDonald. Probably need to get whatever other albums this person is on -- I have "Sunshine," off another Wilson album from the same era, on a comp and love that too.
-- Andy K, Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:38 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah I have no idea.. but I heard the original track for 'honey' 'i'm in love' and it doesn't have any of that awesome sythy-ness, so i'm guess 9th wonder got a live band to play over the sample or something
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I know people who still refuse to listen to Badu for her plagarism of the Mizells on the last couple albums.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:15 (sixteen years ago) link
well, maybe not "refuse to listen," but bring it up every time they do
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link
They might not make it past the first track of this one if they have the RAMP album.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, there is that too, but i just thought of that track as a call-to-arms-cum-fakeout ... wonder if part two will open with it as well.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:40 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah yeah, wave of hand.
This is great.
― kenan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Eric H it sounds like you need some new friends.
― Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Clearly I made those friends up.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link
what do u dudes think this album will sell
― deej, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, Clive Davis will not hear a single, that's for damn sure.
― kenan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I haven't checked to see how well "Honey" is doing.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm awful fond of the reading of the Peter Finch "mad as hell" speech from Network.
― kenan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm buying two tomorrow! Just kidding, but I am buying one. Erykah is one of those that I actually feel the old fashioned need to support so she stays around.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link
"They might not make it past the first track of this one if they have the RAMP album.
-- Andy K"
what did they jack from that one for this album?
― pipecock, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link
"american promise"
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost - "Honey" did pretty good on Urban Adult-Contemporary radio, but outside of that it underperformed.. I don't think this will sell huge numbers but, much like Jill Scott, Erykah has a pretty solid fanbase so I think she'll do around 150K first week and go at least gold.
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:23 (sixteen years ago) link
plus, they're really promoting this - i've seen a few commercials, they have a starbucks tie-in, etc. it'll do respectably.
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:24 (sixteen years ago) link
how much of the mizell's did she "plagiarize"? besides johnny hammond smith. and she covered Think Twice, right? did these fake friends never listen to tribe, black moon, main source?
― jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:37 (sixteen years ago) link
I think both "Booty" and "Time's A Wastin," right?
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Personally, I don't find it altogether problematic, and my imaginary friends and I aren't really on speaking terms anymore.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:46 (sixteen years ago) link
can't wait to hear this!
― tricky, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost - i kind of hate sa ra too. never added up to much apart from one or two songs and great interview quotes.
― mr x, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link
The Cell is so amazing.
― stevie, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link
See...this record is the bizness. The slurry almost-Theo Parrish production on "Twinkle" is killing me. And Badu is still on another brain plane lyrically. This is great.
― Capitaine Jay Vee, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link
It sounds like Pino Palladino playing on "The Cell." The bass is what makes the song....
― Patrick South, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah serious album of the decade potential.
― Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link
MOVE OVER BIG & RICH
i came home a little drunk from a show last night and apparently i itunes'd this.
is that roy hargrove on 'me'?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link
hell yeah that's roy hargrove
also the bass player all over this thing is my new favorite bass player, with an appropriately awesome name: Stephen "Thunder Cat" Bruner!
― Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link
is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production? it sounds antique, in the best way.
― stevie, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Bruner even plays on "The Cell"? Sounds so much like Pino....
― Patrick South, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
"is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production?"
its a sample from a roy ayers produced group called RAMP.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link
is that one of the sa-ra guys on amerykahn promise pretending to be dr funkenstein?
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost - "Honey" did pretty good on Urban Adult-Contemporary radio, but outside of that it underperformed
It's still climbing, albeit very slowly (#29 now, #30 last week, #32 the week before that), on the R&B/Hip-Hop chart.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
which tracks did sa-ra produce, anyway?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link
3 - Shafiq Husayn 6 - Shafiq Husayn, Erykah Badu 7 - Taz Arnold, Shafiq Husayn, Erykah Badu, Mike Chavarria 8 - Shafiq Husayn 9 - Erykah Badu, Om'Mas Keith, Shafiq Husayn
(Husayn, Arnold, Keith = Sa-Ra)
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link
"is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production?"its a sample from a roy ayers produced group called RAMP.-- titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:08 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
-- titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:08 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Hehe -- yeah, basically some voices over the WHOLE of "The American Promise." The RAMP album (which is so much more than "Daylight," "Everybody Loves the Sunshine") was reissued in the States last year by Verve and is very cheap.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Apparently I like Sa-Ra alot, since I think the album's B-side is the stronger one.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link
But, man, is it all good.
Oh, and Roy Ayers, Edwin Birdsong and William Allen are all credited as producers/writers on track one.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link
sa-ra just have the worst vocals ever on their own material. which is why it sucks so bad a lot of the time. they should stick to producing for other people, like erykah or bilal or whoever and STFU or just make instrumentals. then again i find a lot of their own stuff derivative or just too 'soft' anyway.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link
im sure roy doesnt mind - he was on mamas gun anyway.
the sa-ra hate is retarded. vocals are so rad. unfortunately the album the eventually released sucked. singles and weird shit that was passed around on cdr for years before album is mindblowing.
― jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Telephone is a eulogy to dillah. especially apparent w/the sirens he used all over donuts. also love the fact that she redid one of my favorite songs - eddie kendricks "my people" also used on donuts.
― jaxon, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Cover reminds me of The O'Jays' SURVIVAL.
― Terrible Cold, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I would really like to hear Erykah Badu cover Siouxsie & the Banshees, particularly Tinderbox-era songs.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link
have to agree w jaxon on sa ra. i obtained said cd-r of sa-ra instrumentals/bsides in 2002, and they were fucking brilliant pieces of synthy/damaged soul hip-hop. at the time everyone was jocking; kanye, common, all wanted a piece of sa-ra production.since then, they've done alot of work, but somehow kind of fizzled in many peoples eyes. some of the remix work is great, some of it's not so great. that album they released later on ubiquity is aight but nothing near the expectations people had after all those tracks that were passed around. the work they did on this badu record i have to say though is pretty amazing.
― oscar, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link
I rather like Dan's idea.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I love Karriem Riggins (even though his track here isn't one of the flashier ones).
― Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link
sick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Lf1wMylIE
― Jordan, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link
couple tracks in so far, feeling it.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link
OTM, that kendricks track is mind-blowing. would love to hear the whole LP it came from. telephone kills me, i loved common's dilla tribute on finding forever too. thanks titchy and andy for RAMP info.
― stevie, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 11:41 (sixteen years ago) link
jaw drops around 1:30 (xpost)
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Look for Michael Jackson’s little sister Janet to enter next week’s chart at #1, with her new IDJ album Discipline headed for 180k in sales, give or take. Universal Motown’s neo-soul stalwart Erykah Badu is a lock for #2 (hey, that rhymes) with between 125-135k.
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:16 (sixteen years ago) link
kinda low :-/
― deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link
actually that's pretty good! considering "honey"wasn't that big... I expected about 150K and it can still probably do that.
Janet, however... those numbers are sad.
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
x-post -- Yeah, but given the business climate and all, not surprising.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
stevie, that Kendricks album is unfortunately nothing like the title track. the rest is nice sweet soul. i remember one other good track on it.
― jaxon, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
OTM, that kendricks track is mind-blowing. would love to hear the whole LP it came from.
The album of which you speak, People...Hold On, does blow much, much mind from beginning to end. Now I gotta put on "Eddie's Love."
― Terrible Cold, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link
i am listening to the ramp track now. hahahaha, awesome!
― stevie, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
haha, the singer on the ramp stuff sounds kinda badu-ish.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
my favorite ramp song is that disco-ish one that got reissued on 12" recently ... i cant remember what its called but i bought a copy and like it more than anything (yes anything!!) on the lp
― deej, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link
: D : D : D : D
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link
People... Hold On has five classics at the least: My People Hold On, Date With the Rain, Girl You Need a Change of Mind, If You Let Me, Eddie's Love. A couple others are hardly filler.
― Andy K, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Most solo Kendricks tracks are worth listening to because of that sweet sweet voice of his.
― Patrick South, Thursday, 28 February 2008 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link
this is good but nowhere near as good as mama's gun. needs more rhodes!
― chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link
i agree w/chaki
― jaxon, Thursday, 28 February 2008 01:43 (sixteen years ago) link
so far (i've only listened to the whole thing once and have listened to the first half like 4 or 5 times), The Healer, My People and The Cell are standouts.
anyone know what the sample/break is on the Cell or if that's live drumming looped?
― jaxon, Thursday, 28 February 2008 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Badu on SoulStage:
http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id=1582333&vid=212498
I need to see her live.
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 28 February 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link
i agree w/chaki & jaxon. there aren't a lot of hooks here, and the healer is my favorite.
pretty sure the drums on the cell are not live.
― Jordan, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS, and comparisons to earlier records, and trying to trainspot drum sounds, when there is all this twisted shit on display? Seriously? Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.
― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 28 February 2008 03:58 (sixteen years ago) link
plus, there are lots of hooks on this album.
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 28 February 2008 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually I'm a little surprised that, until now, the ILX reaction was as uniformly positive as it was. This is a pretty uncompromising album on the whole.
― Eric H., Thursday, 28 February 2008 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link
"to all my girls in therapy see i'm a tell you this for free"
wooo!
only heard it once, but so far my favorite thing is that the album ends with "honey".
― tricky, Thursday, 28 February 2008 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS
yes, because they make songs sound good.
and comparisons to earlier records
yes, because she made one much better than this.
Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.
wow. whatta douche.
― chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 08:26 (sixteen years ago) link
this a very good, interesting album. i like it in its own right. mamas gun is way better, songwise, but this is still good in its own way. theres some things i wish were a bit diff about it and its not the masterpiece you guys have all made it out to be but my interest is piqued for part 2 this year.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link
i wish they replayed the RAMP song rather than just loop it up like they have done.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link
"Hooks? You're worried about HOOKS
yes, because they make songs sound good."
they are not the only thing that makes songs good.
"and comparisons to earlier records
yes, because she made one much better than this."
i mean, i love her older stuff very much, but i am definitely way into the route she is going.
"Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore.
-- chaki"
personally, i'm all about artists just doing their thing. i get the vibe from her last 2 joints that she no longer feels like she has to compromise her sound in any way, and i think her music is all the better for it. hiphop and soul are not separate in her world, and i like that. it's not about songs, but about pure feeling and mood which i also really like. someone somewhere mentioned this album being like "Voodoo", and i kind of agree with that in general, but it is not like they sound alike in any way really. it's the way they achieve what they do, it's like "ambient soul" or something, and it is far more interesting to me than just another "hook" or whatever.
i'm not saying this album is an instant classic, it seems too difficult of a record to say something like that about without hearing it more times than i have so far. but i really like it, and i will be playing it enough that if it is a classic, it will shine through.
― pipecock, Thursday, 28 February 2008 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link
except for that last line, i kinda agree w/ pcock
― deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
honestly, i'm more excited about discovering this RAMP album! it's great.
― Jordan, Thursday, 28 February 2008 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I've already listened to this one about 15 times.
― Eric H., Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
It's probably a classic.
in the last complex, there's a blurb claiming erykah produced the whole thing in GarageBand.
― jaxon, Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link
sounds like it
― chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link
does that mean on top of what all the other producers gave her?
― Jordan, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
you should email her and ask.
― chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i heard she answers all her emails in Outlook
― deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link
hey would an ex-fan who saw her live on the MAMA'S GUN tour and became pretty disenchanted soon after be advised to get this? i listened to the first album obsessively, thought ...GUN had it's moments, didn't bother with the third album.
― pisces, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link
nah you'd hate it.
― chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
????
― deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link
hey chaki why are you trolling this thread
oh yeah I'm a douche, never mind
bye everyone!
― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 28 February 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link
as much of a troll chaki is, i don't think he's trolling on this thread at all. it's not a perfect album. it's good and i'm warming up to it, but it's not her best work
― jaxon, Thursday, 28 February 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
=/= 'youd hate it'
― deej, Thursday, 28 February 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i love the new album, but i could see why someone who loved baduizm but hated mama's gun might hate this - its another (awesome) step away from the first album's (awesome) relative orthodoxy.
― stevie, Thursday, 28 February 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link
im not trolling you just said something completely douchey.
"Wow. That's...admirable, I guess. I'm just trying to imagine looking at music that way anymore."
way to be completely fucking condescending.
― chaki, Thursday, 28 February 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Erykah Badu: New Amerykah, Pt. 1: 4th World War (Motown) I know when I make my albums, I like to give 'em titles that roll off the tongue like this one! Let's be frankish: Ms. Badu is one classy lady, a warm and very convincing singer who garnered boatloads of attention a few years back not just for her voice but for intriguing headgear ensembles--and she'll never release a Pt. 2 of this thing for all eternity! Featuring the late J. Dilla , Bilal, Madlib, and a bunch of other well known guys who appear on albums like this, NAP14WW--not a postal code but an acronym!--continues her distinguished and singular tradition of fine albums by Erykah Badu! Buy it and keep her favorite millinery supply house in business!
from some Yahoo! dude's music blog
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 28 February 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link
This record is so fucking good.
I just had to say that again.
― kenan, Saturday, 1 March 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm done waffling. Total masterpiece.
― Eric H., Saturday, 1 March 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF4H4ebFVWE
― kl0pper, Saturday, 1 March 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link
^^ that's kinda what this album sounds like to me
― jaxon, Sunday, 2 March 2008 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i swear it's not me!
― jaxon, Sunday, 2 March 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link
"the first album's (awesome) relative orthodoxy."
what? there wasnt much orthodoxy on the first album, not compared to mamas gun anyway. that was a much more (brilliantly) traditional sounding record. stuff like apple tree and on and on though sounded very modern.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 2 March 2008 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Big interview/feature article on her in the Sunday New York Times by writer Melana Ryzik excerpt:
She took time off to care for her two children — she also has a daughter, Puma, 3, with the rapper D.O.C. (Her kids’ beds, mattresses on the floor, are feet away from hers in her Brooklyn living room. The family mostly lives in a house in Dallas.) Meanwhile the music industry entered the digital age, and Ms. Badu, a self-described “analog girl in a digital world,” was in danger of being left behind.
But in 2004 ?uestlove gave her a computer — her first — for Christmas. She chatted online with producer friends like him, Q-Tip and J Dilla, and they began to bombard her with music. “Everybody sending me these things, saying, ‘Erykah, come on, we want you back, we need you to do this,’ ” Ms. Badu said.
Her son introduced her to GarageBand, the music-making program for Macs, and she was off. With the laptop, “I could be here, in my own space, with headphones on, and the kids could be doing what they doing, and I’m cooking dinner still, I’m making juices still, and it’s so easy just to sing,” she said. “You got an idea — boom! Idea, boom!”
In about a year she wrote more than 75 songs, many of which she split among the three albums
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 2 March 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's the link
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/arts/music/02ryzi.html?ref=music
Ms. Badu also plans to start a lifestyle magazine, The Freaq, this summer; the first issue will come with a copy of “New AmErykah: Part Two.” Both records will also be available on a U.S.B. stick for fans to plug into their computers; for added value Ms. Badu wants to record a U.S.B. commentary track to explain her references and inspiration. A tour will start in May.
“I swear to God, this must be my artistic peak,” Ms. Badu said in an earlier interview at Electric Lady
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 March 2008 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/images/a_baldwin.jpg
SYNERGY
― Jordan, Monday, 3 March 2008 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Finally heard Amerykah in its entirety. Just retrieved my jaw from the empty lot across the street.
― Terrible Cold, Monday, 3 March 2008 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
this is fucking awesome btw did i say that
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 05:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm still trying to make heads or tails of this. I am sure that I like it, I'm just not sure if it's as branemelting as everyone says it is.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:03 (sixteen years ago) link
nah some tracks are hella boring
― chaki, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Seriously. I'm a bit of a Badu fan, and I thought Worldwide Underground was the jam, and I do think this new one is pretty cool, but I just don't understand all the hyperbole in this thread. It's really not breaking any new ground, in my opinion.
― Patrick South, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:09 (sixteen years ago) link
i think its great but 'mindblowing' does feel a little strong i dont really like 'master teachers'
― deej, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link
why can't you people just let other people enjoy things.
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:33 (sixteen years ago) link
ha deej was just coming here to say i really like master teachers
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:36 (sixteen years ago) link
lolz @ lounge breakdown
I actually think "Master Teachers" might be my favorite song on the album. I'm loving whoever the other singer on it is.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:43 (sixteen years ago) link
it's georgia anne muldrow (and bilal)
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:45 (sixteen years ago) link
-- The Brainwasher, Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:33 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
ive been unreserved in my the-dream praise!! anyway whatever i still think this album rules
― deej, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 06:57 (sixteen years ago) link
its funny how the ilx-consensus on erykah has changed so much from the beginning of this thread to now (and just cos a lot of neo soul sucked/sucks, doesnt mean the first wave of artists werent good - dangelo, erykahs first album, maxwell, groove theory - all classic IMO).
i still think the highpoints on baduzim and mamas gun definitely are better/more rewarding than those on the new album but its a different, denser, more difficult sort of album.
i dont like master teachers either. i hate georgia anne as a vocalist.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 10:43 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm still not freaking on it, but some stuff is growing on me. it seems like every song is about two minutes longer than i think it's going to be, and at that point either it switches up into something different or just keeps going and i get bored.
― Jordan, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link
btw that whole quote about garage band sounds like she just used it to write/demo songs, not actually produce the record?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Yea, because she was then going into Electric Lady Studios.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link
And working with Madlib, 9th Wonder, and Sa-Ra
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Chaki, why do you not like this album again?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 March 2008 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link
i like it but its no mama's gun. tracks 9 and 10 are the best. alot of it has that dilla feel that is just plain tired to these ears.
― chaki, Monday, 10 March 2008 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
honestly guys, she sounds terrible on that vocalese that she puts down on top of roy hargrove's solo.
― Jordan, Monday, 10 March 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link
ok, I am totally sold on this now
― The Reverend, Monday, 10 March 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link
"The Cell" is in my head always
― The Reverend, Monday, 10 March 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I saw whatever her new video is the other day and rofld. yay vinyl fetishism
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
that vocalese is only an interlude, tho. one that goes on too long, maybe, but not something i'll get in a fit over.
the album's biggest weakness imo is the call-to-ceremony RAMP ripoff, really.
― Eric H., Monday, 10 March 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
amerykah promise is good i think, but it would be more effective if it was replayed rather than just looped up. its a bit lazy.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 10 March 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link
can't stop listening to Master Teachers
― horseshoe, Friday, 21 March 2008 18:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Ms. Badu-Badu-Badu's touring (and ridiculously good live if you have not yet had the opportunity...).
Touring with The Roots (in Boston and D.C. anyway), that is.
05/08/2008 Orpheum Theatre, Boston, MA 05/10/2008 Pier Six Concert Pavilion, Baltimore, MD 05/14/2008 Dar Constitution Hall, Washington, DC 05/15/2008 Dar Constitution Hall, Washington, DC 05/28/2008 Orpheum Theatre Memphis, Memphis, TN
― dblcheeksneek, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
oh snap
― HI DERE, Friday, 21 March 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
all you jerks need to do is have one listen to 'mamas gun.' track one alone is better than anything in the world.
this applies to 'amerykahn promise' right now
― blueski, Sunday, 23 March 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/assets_c/2008/02/badu_nigeria-thumb-200x305.jpg
http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/blog_images/erykah_moscowposter-thumb-200x313.jpg
http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/blog_images/e_badu_poster.jpg
― r|t|c, Friday, 11 April 2008 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Дyo!
― The Reverend, Friday, 11 April 2008 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link
hahaha
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 11 April 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
btw DO WANT moscow poster
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 11 April 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
still loving this
surprised there's no pitchfork review
― blueski, Friday, 9 May 2008 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i too have love for this
― chaki, Friday, 9 May 2008 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Still loving the 4th World War, not to mention this:
http://www.newyorker.com/images/2008/03/31/p233/080331_r17243b_p233.jpg
― briania, Friday, 9 May 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link
way better than i expected (the record, not her legs)
― Granny Dainger, Friday, 9 May 2008 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link
her legs, too
I get the impression that I'll never in a million years wrap my head completely around this record. Too many multitudes and shit.
― The Reverend, Friday, 9 May 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
-- The Reverend, Friday, April 11, 2008 10:49 AM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark Link
― deej, Friday, 9 May 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
amerykah promise... would be more effective if it was replayed rather than just looped up. its a bit lazy.
-- titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, March 10, 2008 12:12 PM (Monday, March 10, 2008 12:12 PM) Bookmark Link
This is completely wrong. It's totally Pretty Toney-style songjack awesomeness.
― The Reverend, Friday, 9 May 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
songjack it is. i just dont think its awesomeness. id prefer it if they did what they did on didnt cha know on mamas gun.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 9 May 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, you're entitled to your own rong opinion.
― The Reverend, Friday, 9 May 2008 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link
it's just a neat looped sample with all this cool intro stuff going on over it. doesn't need anything else.
"THAT'S NOT SCIENCE"
― blueski, Friday, 9 May 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
as are you. despite being rongER.
her legs look nice up there. but her butt is even better.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 9 May 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
"my ass and legs have gotten thick" indeed
― The Reverend, Friday, 9 May 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Still on heavy rotation, and maybe always will be.
― Eric H., Friday, 9 May 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
keep us informed.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 9 May 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the definitive album of my young adulthood.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 15 May 2008 09:04 (fifteen years ago) link
stfo
― chaki, Thursday, 15 May 2008 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link
― Eric H., Thursday, 15 May 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm still kinda weirdly ambivalent about this album, hoping Part Two grabs me more. I guess that's still due out in July?
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 15 May 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link
haven't listened to this in weeks
― Jordan, Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
thx 4 update (< playful snark)
― blueski, Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
havent listened to this in awhile since it came out but i have fond memories and im afraid they're rong so i'll wait a lil bit longer
'honey' is definitely a classic single tho
― deej, Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
haven't listened to anything else in weeks*
* except kerri chandler
― Eric H., Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
i still haven't listened to mama's gun (hangs head)
― blueski, Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link
:(
― Jordan, Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
thanx 4 the pic back n 15
― and what, Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Get ready to be happy or sad.
― Eric H., Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost?
― blueski, Thursday, 15 May 2008 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link
-- blueski, Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:37 AM (Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:37 AM) Bookmark Link
I did end up picking up a used copy of Mama's Gun when I copped the new one. It's damn good, especially "Penitentiary Philosophy and "Didn't Cha Know" and "A.D. 2000", but I'm not nearly as fucking floored with it as New Amerykah, which I've listened to at least 30, maybe as many as 50 times. A few days ago, after listening to it three times in a row, I kind of had to remind myself that there's other music out there to be heard.
― rev, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link
you lot are weird i swear.
you must not like old jazz-soul.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf sense does that make
― deej, Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm through the looking glass. Normally I'm the one telling people to calm the fuck down.
― Eric H., Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link
But yeah not sure what the jazz-soul bit means. This album is all Funkadelic like.
― Eric H., Thursday, 15 May 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link
titchy wtf?
― rev, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
"that hump" is one of my fave songs ever
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i am listening to the new album more now than i did when it came out. i have to say i liked it alot then, i love it now. it is definitely a more warm weather record IMO. "honey" especially sounds better with the windows down driving on the freeway when its like 80 degrees out, but the whole album really benefits. i love love love the intro track "30 thousand megawatts radiating your soul!". that shit kills me, totally P-Funk.
this one and "voodoo" are the landmark soul albums from my lifetime so far. i am really looking forward to the next parts!
― pipecock, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
just saying that saying 'this is better in every way than mamas gun' seems weird. sort of like people saying the roots' game theory or even the new one are better than things fall apart.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
― Jordan, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i really hope the other two albums shes made get to come out though - im dying to hear them.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not going to say this is better in every way than Mama's Gun, but it's better in some ways than that album. Her first two albums were very much on a singular wavelength throughout most of the running time, which makes them GREAT albums for when you're in the mood for them, but a little impenetrable outside of that (Gun probably moreso than Baduizm). The new one is varied enough in texture that it's easy to slip into. Hence someone mentioning listening to it in top-down weather despite the album having really menacing stuff on it like "The Cell."
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
"The Cell" is one of the most top-down songs on the record! I figured out exactly which Stevie Wonder song it reminds me most of: "Too High".
― The Reverend, Saturday, 17 May 2008 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Good analogy! Like "Too High," it's really dense musically but quite accessible.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 17 May 2008 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes!
-- titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, May 16, 2008 11:13 AM (Friday, May 16, 2008 11:13 AM) Bookmark Link
The "Their earlier stuff was better" fallacy is a classic. All I know is, hearing both albums for the first time concurrently, one strikes me as a pretty good, if slightly inconsistent, record (much like Baduizm, in fact), and the other strikes me as one of the best albums I've ever heard.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 17 May 2008 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link
hay guyz, all three of her main albums are classic. no need to pick just one kthxbye.
― The Brainwasher, Saturday, 17 May 2008 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I wasn't picking just one, I like all three of them.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 17 May 2008 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Just by varying degrees, y'know.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 17 May 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link
"just saying that saying 'this is better in every way than mamas gun' seems weird. sort of like people saying the roots' game theory or even the new one are better than things fall apart.
-- titchyschneiderMk2"
except that the Roots earlier material is clearly far superior to their more recent, while Erykah has maintained a pretty high level across all of her records. i think that this one is the most interesting, daring, and quality of all of them though!
― pipecock, Saturday, 17 May 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link
"the other strikes me as one of the best albums I've ever heard."
i am going to assume/hope you were referring to mamas gun. ;)
― titchyschneiderMk2, Saturday, 17 May 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link
the whole album is quite righteous now, Mama's Gun is an entire different ballpark for me
also: I want to know where she buys her wigs
― warmsherry, Saturday, 17 May 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link
xp: no
― The Reverend, Saturday, 17 May 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link
http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/2008/05/qa_with_erykah_badu.php
So excited.
― Eric H., Thursday, 29 May 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
My favorite album, Dark Side of the Moon, was meant to be a whole piece, just like mine.
o_O
― Jordan, Thursday, 29 May 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I gotta say that ain't surprising!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 May 2008 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i am seeing her show tomorrow! so excited you guys!!!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 29 May 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Tags: Erykah Badu, Joni Mitchell, Mos Def, Pink Floyd, The Roots, White Stripes
― Jordan, Thursday, 29 May 2008 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link
ooh, chris "the best drummer" dave is playing with erykah now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9eydCfTdw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFYl3Ho41P0
― Jordan, Thursday, 29 May 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i wish that band was on the record.
― Jordan, Thursday, 29 May 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link
people, this show. omg omg omg. if erykah badu had an army i'd enlist.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
ahhhhhhhhhh two of my friends were at that show, i almost got the 2nd ticket but it didnt work out :( must have been amaaaaazing
― deej, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I wanted to go see her, but she was playing with the roots who totally suck and tickets were like $60. I'll catch her next time she comes, which should be soon
― The Brainwasher, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
the roots did kind of suck. :( i mean, i don't think they suck in general, but their live show is a mess. but badu alone was worth the price, seriously. i keep trying to describe the show, but can't. i feel like i'm 13.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
she sang "green eyes" off mama's gun while performing some crazy rhythmic gymnastics routine.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 31 May 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
the roots were terrible when i saw them about a month ago, but i just NEED to see Erykah at this point, i would have paid anything. what happened to the Roots BTW, they are really maybe 1/50th of what they were 10 years ago.
― pipecock, Saturday, 31 May 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
the roots' show is almost always a mess. FFS would it hurt to come up with a setlist for once?
im seeing erykah end of june. i cant wait. if i was a woman i think id want to be erykah.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 1 June 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
"the roots' show is almost always a mess. FFS would it hurt to come up with a setlist for once?
when i saw the roots in 99 and 01, they were outstanding. of course they only had good material to work with at that point, plus their guests (black moon, jill scott, jaguar wright, etc) were all extremely exceptional as well which helped them out.
i wonder what Pittsburgh's energy field is like that she can't play anywhere even within driving distance of us? she could hit baltimore, cleveland, DC, detroit, toronto all within a 4 hour drive from me, but she isnt not playing any of those places. how weak. even philly could be doable maybe, but i dont see anything about her playing there either.
― pipecock, Sunday, 1 June 2008 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link
roots were great when i saw them around '02 i think
― deej, Sunday, 1 June 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
last time i saw them was when the phrenology album was out. saw them twice that year. once in NY and next in london. good shows. but they do ramble on a bit. their shows never have much form.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 1 June 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Damn, I really want to see her this Thurs. but no car + venue in Redmond is : |
― The Reverend, Monday, 2 June 2008 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I feel for you there, the Rev. :-/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 June 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link
great review of the record from nabisco in pfork btw!!!
― deej, Thursday, 12 June 2008 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link
i think you nailed the nuance needed for the parts (politix, history-of-post-civil-rights-black-music, etc) that seemed likely to end up sinking it but that she managed to pull off
― deej, Thursday, 12 June 2008 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link
ok I think this album finally clicked for me.
― some dude, Thursday, 12 June 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link
the only part of nab's review that i didn't like was the part about the duet with the trumpet player (ie roy hargrove). a) the vocals seem pretty obviously overdubbed, and b) roy sounds great, but she sounds kinda terrible here?
― Jordan, Thursday, 12 June 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
roy hargrove's tone always sounds so weeded, which is appropriate
― deej, Thursday, 12 June 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link
tru
― Jordan, Thursday, 12 June 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
that dude's niche is really adding those awesome blazed lines to r&b albums, not being a jazz trumpet hero or heading a record (the tracks w/d'angelo, badu, common, etc. on his own records are so terrible compared to the reverse).
― Jordan, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link
man i love this album tho:
http://www.vervemusicgroup.com/images/local/250/79bf43d14163425496a6e34037ab8fca.jpg
― deej, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"O My Seh Yeh"!!!
― deej, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i was listening to this yesterday and was thinking that a lot of her 'conscious' rhetoric seems a bit too 'familiar'. like ive heard it a million times before ten years ago. its all that NWO-paranoia again but reworked.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/NO.gif
― deej, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link
im not saying its a corny rehash, just saying im not sure shes really changed her stance on anything since then. shes probably just been relistening to a lot of hip hop from back then - the healer lyrics really remind of me old essays people used to write about hip hop in say, rap-pages (lol) back in 1998/99.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
i haven't heard that roy album. and i am actually interested in his new quintet album. actually.
― Jordan, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link
So new album next month, no? Details are still pretty sketchy. Has me worried.
― Eric H., Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
and she promised, at the end of 'honey'
― remy bean, Thursday, 12 June 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
holy fuck erykah live. mind. blown. coming on stage to 'a milli' ("where is erykah badu at?" an hour late is where erykah badu was at), 'the healer' was incredible, that version of 'appletree' which sounded like some sort of insane cybotron remix, and just how triumphant was 'soldier'...the woman is a fucking genius.
i got to meet her afterwards <3 <3 <3
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link
sounds good. she's playing the blue balls festival in lucerne later this month - if only it had been happening when i'd been there, would've been extra surreal seeing her play somewhere like that
― blueski, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link
did you interview her?
show was brilliant. she is amazing.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
no, about 15 journos/fans just got to sit with her for a while, ask questions and so on. she's really serene in person. um yeah, one of the most powerful shows i've been to i think. always astonished at how much she belts it out on stage - she's so understated on record, to hear a song like 'the healer' sung like that was mind-blowing.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link
ooh im jealous. i love erykah. wish she did more from mamas gun but i want you, danger and otherside of the game were amazing. i liked how amerykah promise sounded so fierce. also liked when she was tapping out beats on her drum machine!
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link
'danger' - YES. one of my favourite erykah tracks, never heard it live before.
i was actually surprised she didn't do more from new amerykah - four tracks in it looked like she was going to play the whole thing in order. 'the cell' would have been incredible but i got no complaints really.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i didnt want her to do that much more from the new album. i think i enjoyed the last time i saw her a bit more just cos i love MG more than the new album, but she is still a really brilliant performer. even when she was talking about the occupation of countries etc, it was inspiring/interesting rather than soapbox-corny/preaching to the converted.
they should have had her at glasto.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link
ah well, i love NA more than MG (though obv huge love for both). agree about her political talk - also love that she brought that out right after a sequence of long-standing crowd favourites, just when the crowd was putty in her hands. she said some interesting stuff backstage - she was asked whether the obama campaign had got in touch with her or whether she'd accept an offer if they did, and she replied in the negative - she says she "doesn't know much about the system" (ie she distrusts everything about it) but obama's importance was in how he'd catalysed people as individuals to believe in whatever change they needed to effect in their own lives, personal and political.
o yeah brixton acad was a tad hot, don't you think!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link
its always too fucking hot. saw NERD the other week and felt quite disgusting.
i dont think obamas people get in touch with everyone thats donated a song - i doubt taz from sa-ra was asked personally! but he still did a song for it. i *almost8 did an eye roll when she talked about the system itself needing an overhaul but something about how she put it across was nicely cliche-free.
i really hope her other two albums come out this year. did anyone ask about those? is she trying to leave motown/universal?
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link
her point was more about how the most significant impact of obama's presence and rhetoric of change has been to catalyse people as individuals, which will stand even if he doesn't become president or his presidency doesn't succeed politically.
word is that the next two albums are definitely on their way. don't think she's trying to leave anything.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link
"her point was more about how the most significant impact of obama's presence and rhetoric of change has been to catalyse people as individuals, which will stand even if he doesn't become president or his presidency doesn't succeed politically."
yeah i liked that part.
just remembered she didnt do next lifetime. :(
― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link
no The Cell, no Next Lifetime....WORST GIG EVER
― blueski, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 12:01 (fifteen years ago) link
erykah live from vh1 soulstage:
http://www.zshare.net/download/13987260bc0e496e/
― titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.imeem.com/okayplayer/video/JlZISmeE/okayplayer_erykah_badu_interview_on_okayplayertv_music_video/
check it around the 2.20 mark for amerykahn promise. so much better live. bit dissapointed shes got the same producers on part 2. i thought it was going to be less hip-hop sounding.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 5 October 2008 08:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm pretty glad. part one got me into karriem riggins, and it sounded like there's gonna be enough guests on part two. her tentatively talking about andre 3000 makes it sound as if it isn't quite ready, though.
my brother's SLEEPing on my FLOOR bitch i could USE a little MORE is the line that is currently keeping on giving from that hump on new amerykah.
― schlump, Sunday, 5 October 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm just warning everyone, when i get my hands on some of her albums in the next month or two, i'm gonna be blabbering up a storm about it. just so you're prepared.
― Surmounter, Sunday, 5 October 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
bit dissapointed shes got the same producers on part 2.
Not OTM at all. I've most definitely settled on NAP1 being her best album yet.
― Eric H., Sunday, 5 October 2008 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link
"I've most definitely settled on NAP1 being her best album yet."
the ilx consensus on erykah has always seemed a bit weird to me.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link
This board goes through goofy "female artist empowering" phases. First it was Missy Elliott, then it was M.I.A. and now it's Erykah Badu. All three are extremely overrated, even if Elliott and Badu are not entirely untalented.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah right
― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
wherever there's a lot of praise, there's bound to be a certain level of annoyed doubt
― Surmounter, Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
mhmm
― Surmounter, Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link
lol @ titchy and Vision
― joe 40oz (deej), Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Surmounter, ok, but with these three, particularly w/ Erykah Badu, it became some kind of almost unchallenged superstitious belief in ILM. This kind of hyperbolic overpraising does not match their overall reputation outside this board.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link
okay i know what you mean, but i do think they are kind of aggrandized elsewhere as well.
― Surmounter, Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah music critics love erykah not sure what vision is on abt?
― t_g, Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link
HIS VISION MAN
― Surmounter, Sunday, 5 October 2008 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Sure they are praised by others etc, but certainly not on the same level we see here, where their limitations usually go unmentioned. So it's about not being, for instance, a mere chorus of fawning Badu fanboys. In other words: giving her records the dignity of a sober assessment and *critical* praise, and having her music evaluated in the context of other/previous/better artists. The pro-Badu league here seems to be more socially than musically oriented sometimes.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
but to some extent there's always going to be a glow surrounding any talented musician currently recording, no matter how evaluative it may or may not be.
― Surmounter, Sunday, 5 October 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
badu has never been as praised as the other two, not on ilx or in the wider world. i can only explain the love the latest erykah album gets here as a result of this, like people werent really paying attention when MG came out.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 5 October 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
You guys, it's not very hard; ILM tends to be about pop and indie. Badu hasn't been very pop since her debut and, arguably up until this last album, she's the wrong type of indie for most posters here to really lose their minds over her.
― i am the small cat (HI DERE), Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Surmounter, ok, but with these three, particularly w/ Erykah Badu, it became some kind of almost unchallenged superstitious belief in ILM. This kind of hyperbolic overpraising does not match their overall reputation outside this board
This is the kind of sensible nonsense easily cleared up by checking the Pazz & Jopp poll results and Metacritic ratings in the last six years for M.I.A. and Elliott.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 5 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
vision's posts are perplexing in many ways, all of them dumb
― lex pretend, Sunday, 5 October 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Alfred Sotosyn, you make no sense. That exchange was not about whether Badu or Missy Elliott are talented (they are) or whether the critics have given them enough praise (they have), but how the fans of these two artists here in ILM, instead of being objective and balanced whey they talk about both, usually just repeat a certain obsequious, shallow party line about how great they are etc etc. Next time, trying paying attention to what's being said.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
o_0
― lex pretend, Sunday, 5 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Next time, dip into the (voluminous) M.I.A. threads and pay attention to the level of discourse.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 5 October 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
so you're annoyed by the fandom.
let me tell ya, fans have been annoying for decades, it's nothin new.
― Surmounter, Sunday, 5 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
There won't be a next time about M.I.A. because 1) I think she's a fraud and 2)this is not really about her.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean look i cringe whenever i talk about kate bush but generally people grant me a little patience in my rapture
It's official: Vision is not a fan of M.I.A.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 5 October 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Surmounter, I'm not annoyed. I am attentive to a certain kind of slant within this board, and I think it is worth pointing out because it has happened before.
I have no intention to make hardcore baduizts behave coolly about an artist they admire, it's ok, go ahead, be emotional, enthusiastic etc, but what the critical mass of ILM opinion about her suggests is that there is too much superficial praise given her and her latest album.
I do think she, like the others before her, was made into some kind of political figure, and I do think some people here simply bought into that, they're not really fans, they're just gullible. Artificial consensus always dumbs things down, and it certainly is a disservice to Badu's career.
BTW, I don't think I have to tell you how ILM is teeming with music critics and musicians from all parts of the world, so it's not just a common fan-oriented message board, it's a place with certain idiosyncrasies. Some of them, like this "let's uncritically praise and lionize a female non-white artist" pattern, seem to me a little contrived.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
let's uncritically praise and lionize a female non-white artist" pattern, seem to me a little contrived.
If you've read any thread about Badu, MIA, and Elliott, you'd never write this twaddle.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 5 October 2008 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, guess what, we are in one such thread, going back some seven years, and the overall perception when reading about these three artists in ILM is consistently the same: uncritical, sheepish praise for the pc muse du jour-- until, of course, the next one arrives to take her place.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
You are gay.
― After The Hurricane (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 5 October 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
After the Hurricane, no I'm not. BTW, these three singers do have a certain fag-hag following, don't they? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I really don't get the point of your rants... we're fans of these artists, so why wouldn't the threads be filled with praise? There has been criticism in this thread - I believe chaki said he's not feeling New Amerykah as much as her earlier albums - so... really whats your point? The idea that Erykah is some kind of critical "it girl" du jour is flawed because she's been getting critical praise for going on 12 years now since her debut album came out....
― After The Hurricane (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 5 October 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
the overall perception when reading about these three artists in ILM is consistently the same: uncritical, sheepish praise for the pc muse du jour
Try the search function and/or step up your reading comprehension. If you don't think there's appropriately critical discourse happening in these threads (which seems crazy to me), contribute by elevating the discourse or shut the fuck up. Nobody likes a condescending whiner.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 October 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
A.Hurricane and Big Hoos, my point was made higher up in the thread. RE: chaki's comments, they're part of that tiny amount of exceptions that simply confirm the rule.
EB deserves both the critical recognition and her true fans. She's certainly more than an "it girl". What happened is that she seems to have been elected "ILMate of the year", like others before her, for the sake of a certain political stance rather than just the music, and that's manipulative and patronizing.
― Vision, Sunday, 5 October 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
patronizing? that's rich.
― tricky, Sunday, 5 October 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't you know white (or black or hispanic or asian) dudes should only like music by white dudes (no just white) or else they are being patronizing?
― © 2008 (The Reverend), Monday, 6 October 2008 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link
People who like Missy Elliott only like her because her work is highly political.
― © 2008 (The Reverend), Monday, 6 October 2008 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Fremme neppa vanette.
― © 2008 (The Reverend), Monday, 6 October 2008 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Enough.
― Eric H., Monday, 6 October 2008 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link
i think when people feel the need to dismiss popular opinion in this way, it can come across as arrogant. like you know better than everyone else. it seems easy enough to let others be taken with the music in question, and offer your own critiques in contrast to the majority, if you can articulate them. this seems more constructive than criticizing the audience who, however hard it may be to stomach, may just find certain talents worthy of all the buzz.
― Surmounter, Monday, 6 October 2008 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link
this is maybe kind of a shut-up-you-music-journalists response, but if there's disproportionate acclaim in regards to how good the record is, it's in recognition of how exciting a record it is; i remember people on one thread talking about how they'd never be able to get their heads around it, because it's such a sprawling, ambitious thing. if she's feted beyond the achievements of new amerykah (in particular, i don't know if this addresses a long history of badu-as-ilm-darling), it's for being this vivacious, current force, for the personality of the record as well as its delivery.
― schlump, Monday, 6 October 2008 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link
exactly, i mean not everything can be compared to everything else. sometimes it's enough that it's now, and it's great, and exciting.
― Surmounter, Monday, 6 October 2008 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link
vision's blurred
― joe 40oz (deej), Monday, 6 October 2008 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link
^ on that other level
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 6 October 2008 05:44 (fifteen years ago) link
^way beyond that cloud nine
― © 2008 (The Reverend), Monday, 6 October 2008 07:28 (fifteen years ago) link
vision = diabolical sockpuppet
the beginning of this thread is classic
― velko, Monday, 6 October 2008 07:47 (fifteen years ago) link
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/203554-174902-vision_super.jpg
― velko, Monday, 6 October 2008 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link
It's official: Vision is not a fan of M.I.A. a complete idiot.
― I know, right?, Monday, 6 October 2008 08:44 (fifteen years ago) link
New Amerykah Part 2: Return of the Ankh was originally slated for release in July:
Return of the Ankh is set for an July 2008 released and is to be accompanied by a USB stick which Badu says will include extras ranging from footage of concerts, to commentary on the recording process and “me in the bathtub with Flavour Flav” [praying that's a joke!] - “I wanted to give away my materials…It’s about sharing, and that’s why I like this system”
I'm guessing the record company wanted to hold off 'til '09 so as to not confuse people who are now used to 2-3 years passing in between album releases.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 October 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
We should've just made this the Sa-Ra thread and disposed of all this...
― abusive comments (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link
i read about sa-ra and get super ridic excited
i listen to sa-ra and am like 'why was i so excited'
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 03:08 (fifteen years ago) link
you haven't heard the right things
― jaxon, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link
what should i hear?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link
New York City and Beautiful Thangs are astounding.
My point, however, was they either as a unit, or as individuals, have done a fair amount of work for Badu in recent times, no?
― abusive comments (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, these two at least.
That Hump is produced by Om'Mas Keith and basically sounds like a Sa-Ra track:
Master Teacher is produced by Shafiq Husayn and Georgia Anne Muldrow of Sa-Ra:
― abusive comments (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Erykah Badu on Sa-Ra
― abusive comments (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yall have no idea how much this record speaks to me... I might even say it feels like its ABOUT me
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link
im sober btw
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I feel like, amazing new developments aside, this record perfectly encaptures how it feels to be black in america in 2008
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link
and I got "My President" to hold down the other side of that, so I'm good
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link
'Me' is definitely about me
― Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Thursday, 13 November 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link
This is the definitive album of my young adulthood.Suggest Ban Permalink― The Reverend, Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:04 AM Bookmark
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^^^I stand by this
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link
It's certainly the best album of a great year, no doubt.
― Peanuts are the perpetual movement at man's reach (stevie), Thursday, 13 November 2008 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link
The album it reminds me most of is Curtis. While the makers of both records are quick to detail our social ills, neither sounds, for even a second, like they don't believe we can overcome them.
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link
ok that was a much more interesting comparison when I thought you were talking about Fiddy.
― The stic.man from the hilarious 'Dead Prez' albums (some dude), Thursday, 13 November 2008 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link
hahaha I never got around to checking that one out
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm surprised that for all the love badu gets here, i can't find a thread on joi
― L@OO@K WHOS AWAKE NOW (PappaWheelie V), Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I had a bit of a slow uptake, too, but at this point I can't identify an album released this decade that means as much to me. I just posted this in the other thread last night.
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Another thing is, despite all the social commentary, it's never didactic (not that there's anything wrong with that, I mean Public Enemy were didactic), the whole thing feels so personal at every level.
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
damn, wrong thread
― mr. mayan end times guy (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah -- she can't be didactic because she's still sorting out politics and her own artistic growth (which is what the album chronicles). The record's more mixed up in a thrilling way than anything I've heard in recent memory.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i can imagine someone maybe not being totally taken by the album, because they're not into her particular methods of expression or her take on soul just isn't their thing, but even in that case, surely the sheer depth and breadth of what she's trying to do (and succeeding at) would be impressive? the scope of this thing is immense.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
alfred otm
― slap bass: the ungentle art (stevie), Thursday, 13 November 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
so 4th World War is a lock for #1 in the upcoming 2008 albums poll, right????
Madvillainy is my album of the decade, and this is second...I like the former a little more, but this last month has done a lot to close the gap between the two...I just recently how astoninshing that three-song sequence (Soldier-The Cell-Twinkle) really is, and then The Healer is even better....
― 37 x 18 = (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 9 February 2009 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I just recently how astoninshing that three-song sequence (Soldier-The Cell-Twinkle) really is, and then The Healer is even better....
yeah i think i really started to feel this album hardcore when that run you're referring to hit me for the first time. then, of course, i fell in love with every other song too
― jammed hymen (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 February 2009 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
I know that tardiness is all part of the Badu mystique, but damn I wish she'd stop even pretending with these release dates. It should just show up in stores one day.
― Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Monday, 9 February 2009 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link
her twitter feed is as entertaining as you might imagine, i highly recommend it.
― a small batch bourbon of web board shitfits (stevie), Monday, 9 February 2009 08:06 (fifteen years ago) link
― Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
this is like 90% of the hip-hop/r&b industry fwiw
― your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Monday, 9 February 2009 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link
that new album isnt coming out for a long while. shes just had a baby.
― p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 9 February 2009 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I love her Twitter feed. It's reorganizing my understanding of communication.
― Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Monday, 9 February 2009 12:18 (fifteen years ago) link
she's playing some festival in a few months. just saying, it might not be the whole year or whatever that people expect.
― schlump, Monday, 9 February 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-03-05/music/r-amp-b-queen-erykah-badu-s-egyptian-mystique/
― Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
YAMASUKI SINGERS SAMPLE!!!!
― moullet, Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link
guess i'm gonna see erykah at jazzfest this year, should be fun.
― meat of beef (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
fatbellybella sylvia called yesterday... gave me an album release date. i always cringe at the thought.about 4 hours ago from web
fatbellybella ... i love pt 2 . feels good . but not sure its what i want to say right now .about 4 hours ago from web
guess we won't be seeing pt 2 any time soon
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link
;_____;
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
kudos to matt c for getting an erykah retweet though
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd rather she got off the Tweet and back on the spliff.
― neu hollywood (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i heard pt 2 was december. but getting a release date might be more like july/august?
also this thread/board way undervalues WORLDWIDE UNDERGROUND, particularly as a stepping stone between mama's gun and the last one.
― corps of discovery (schlump), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
eh. WWU isn't that bearable as a whole, but I gotta make caveat that "I Want You" just might be the best jam she's done
― Styles Davis (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
yea i don't remember liking WWU that much. i worked in a record store in college and a co-worker played it all the time. part of the reason why i barely noticed when NA pt 1 came out and didn't get around to hearing it until a couple months ago. but i should give it another listen
― mark cl, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Everything up through "I Want You" is great.
― neu hollywood (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
'danger' is def one of my favourite erykah trax ever. and yeah 'i want you' is great too.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i've been on a WWU kick lately, i love it
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
my post was meant to liberate you all from your hazy recollection that it isn't that good: it turns out that it is instead pretty good. i want you's something else completely.
― corps of discovery (schlump), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link
she sounded good at jazzfest btw, band is tight. she had them breaking every four bars more or less.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
is it her and the laptop guys?
― corps of discovery (schlump), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
no, full band, chris dave on drums.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
playing a bunch of shows in august
― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
link?
― nadroj thing (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
this is the only thing i've seen http://www.okayplayer.com/news/Photos-Erykah-Badus-4th-World-War-Tour.html
― just sayin, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
and this says release date of aug 18th??? http://www.rap-up.com/2009/05/08/erykah-badus-part-2-gets-release-date/
believe it when it happens
― just sayin, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
that's also from a month and a half ago. thx for the tour info tho
― nadroj thing (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Not interested in seeing her tour, really. I saw her at SXSW in March and she was over an hour late to her set, then played two half-assed songs and left.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Possibly the worst live show I've ever seen.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link
She's doing NYC on Governors Island in August.
― Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I understand when she's on, tho, she's really on.
She remains one of the few artists I'd travel out of my way (say, to Chicago) to see in concert.
― bad crack (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link
xxpost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvwuVdffvO0
― nadroj thing (k3vin k.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link
it probably won't be like that though? i don't know. (also hadn't she just got like stalked at her home) i am doing that thing of transferring quiet solitary communion with records -> live acoustical experience but i am gonna spend money i don't have on going.
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/06/concerts_on_the.html#moreis the link - i'm sure there was more before, like uhh atlantic city a coupla days after ny
― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:56 (fourteen years ago) link
a ws for the ages
― Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^^this
― bad crack (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link
oh my
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 25 June 2009 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
her live set on paladia was pretty awesome, had a great band behind her.
aah i only see one badu date on that link and a bunch of b-52s dates
― winston, Thursday, 25 June 2009 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link
New York!!!! Automatic Slim ( also known as e. Badu ) is back in your area! In the Badudio on a stormy night ...about 7 hours ago from Tweetie
automatic slim!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 25 June 2009 08:15 (fourteen years ago) link
she's been a+++++ mindblowing both times i've seen her live btw
I saw her at SXSW in March and she was over an hour late to her set, then played two half-assed songs and left.
isn't this a problem w/ festival shows in general tho? haven't been to one in a while but imo they're kind of the worst place to get excited about seeing a specific artist. lots of sets tend to be short and half-assed and u can never tell when the band u really want to see is going to bring it or not
― mark cl, Thursday, 25 June 2009 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, you're right and I'd probably go see her again...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 June 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
agree with lex, she is mind-blowing live
― glad theres not gonna b ‘guitar hero sparklehorse’ (stevie), Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
we just dropped complete gov island beach lineup: Mos Def, B-52, Buckethead, Erykah, DSO, one or two others still in progress and a lot of midrange stuff
― Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 June 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Total Building Facility Charge(s) US $5.00 x 1Total Convenience Charge(s) US $11.30 x 1Order Processing Charge(s) US $5.40
― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Saturday, 27 June 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
not my department but yeah its kinda crazyget tix in person at Nokia
― Mindless Thugs Mixtape Volume One (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 June 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Whoa, anybody going to this at the Merriweather Post Pavilion?
"WPGC Welcomes the Summer Spirit Festival With Erykah Badu, Chrisette MichelleRaphael Saadiq, Mike Epps, Chuck Brown, The Foreign Exchange and more!"
3 of my favorite R&B acts from 2008 on one bill. Could be great.
― Moreno, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Janelle Monae is opening for Erykah at Gov I.
― wacky out of context phrase is the worst look (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i might go to the MPP show
― do the k3vin keller and talk with your quips (some dude), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
she ruled at sasquatch.
― akaky akakievich, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.prefixmag.com/media/erykah-badu/i-wanna-be-where-you-are-ft-the-roots-michael-jack/30074/
A+++++++++++++++
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, plus more pluses.
― bad crack (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link
hottt
― bnw, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, plus more ts.
― thousands of bears are distraught (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgl-vL-l33E
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 3 July 2009 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
okay, what's that from.
― an average room of dentists (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 July 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahahahaaahaa omg
― Morbius Jackson (The Reverend), Friday, 3 July 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
XDXD
bitch go back to africa and let me finish looking for my sardines
― k3vin k., Friday, 3 July 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
OK - is the rant at the end of "twinkle" a keith david monologue? (the dude in men at work, the thing, they live, etc.)
http://www.smokingtree.net/images/menatwork3.jpg
i'm guessing not but it really sounds like him and this album IS pretty bonkers.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
it's from the movie Network...
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
― Moreno, Tuesday, 30 June 2009
I want to go but I think I might be out-of-town for work that day in August.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost - thanx brainwasher.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
shes on that new sa-ra album, on one song (not fantastic vampyre sadly).
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3559/3790976601_5688393e36.jpg
via flickr
― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
This show was fucking great and she is hot as two bakers.
― im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i need this 2nd album. wtf. how long has it been since the last one? (ok only a year i think but even so)
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
year and a half!
― joeks, bruv will tear us apart (k3vin k.), Thursday, 6 August 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKaWTmW5eyc
Erykah! Go on tour again! I'll travel as far as Dallas or DC to see you!
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Indeed. And still no sight of Return of the Ankh *sigh*. Not that I should have expected her to follow through on it any time soon, but a boy can hope, right?
― Binkie & The-Dream: One is a Terius, the other's insAY!ne (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 11 October 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Latest word is it will be released next February, but I know better than to hope now. Lucky for me, the first volume has replay value unto eternity.
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Monday, 12 October 2009 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link
It does exist...http://www.showingout.com/index.php/2009/12/11/album-preview-new-amerykah-pt-2/
― Number None, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
sweet thanks for the heads up!
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
wowowowowowow
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
haha love how casually this is slipped in at the end -
Badu finished by stating that the third album in the New Amerykah series would be titled Lowdown, Low Underground and would be sung in the persona of her alias Loretta Brown, a woman that’s “from the ’50s but acts like she’s from the ’40s - the 2040’s.”
janelle monáe i love you but you better get your album out quick smart if you don't want ms badu to render it completely irrelevant.
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
omgomgomg cannot wait!!!
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
The track ends with children screaming.
okay best album of 2010, I'm calling it right now
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
woohoooo
― mdskltr (blueski), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
dayammmmm
― that is a whole discussion within itself that is worth debating (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
it's gonna badu vs. maxwell for best 2010 r&b sequel
― hey trader joe's! i've got the new steely dan. (Jordan), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i want this now
― Moreno, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
so excited you guys!
― horseshoe, Friday, 11 December 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I have no words to describe my excitement.
― really senile old crap shit (Eric H.), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
okay reading more of this, I really really REALLY wish people would learn and understand the difference between "atonal", "distorted" and "dissonant"
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
yessssssssssssss. pumped.
― original bgm, Friday, 11 December 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Not much to add here. 2010 is gonna be a strong year for music. But I feel like I've been saying this every year for the past few years.
― wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 11 December 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Color me thrilled.
― mojitos (a cocktail) (Cave17Matt), Friday, 11 December 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
― really senile old crap shit (Eric H.), Friday, December 11, 2009 11:52 AM (3 hours ago)
^this, except that i'm infuriated that i can't listen to the preview where i am right now, gonna have to wait til late tonight
― k3vin k., Friday, 11 December 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
oh it's just a track-by-track? progress i suppose, but we've been trolled too many times by release announcements that never happened :(
― k3vin k., Friday, 11 December 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
think you can hear a cellphone recording of jump in the air & stay there some places, but it's just reading for now.
― high-five machine (schlump), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I can confirm that at least one ILXOR has heard this.
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
and what did Geir have to say
― wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.legalmoviesdownloads.com/still-frames-movie-pictures/amadeus/amadeus-2-jeffrey-jones-tom-hulce-roderick-cook-emperor-joseph-ii-wolfgang-amadeus-mozart-count-von-strack-.jpg
Emperor Hongro dispenses his thoughts.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 December 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
who rev?
― k3vin k., Friday, 11 December 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I believe Hongro's doing a write-up somewhere, so I'll leave that up to him.
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I heard it Wed night. It's GREAT.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 06:40 (fourteen years ago) link
More info, plz! How well does it complement the first volume?
― really senile old crap shit (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 06:54 (fourteen years ago) link
another article:http://www.billboard.com/news/erykah-badu-unveils-new-amerykah-part-ii-1004053193.story#/news/erykah-badu-unveils-new-amerykah-part-ii-1004053193.story
― Dan S, Saturday, 12 December 2009 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link
kev: matos
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Saturday, 12 December 2009 07:54 (fourteen years ago) link
It's less wild-ass than the first one; it ranges pretty widely while staying pretty resolutely R&B. Kind of Mama's Gun refracted through Pt. 1. Lots of piano and bass, a good amount of studio treatment but super approachable--the old fans who lost her w/Pt. 1 will like this a lot, I think. Last few songs get really torchy. A lyric that stood out: "I'm on my front porch rockin'/Like Lightnin' Hopkins." I think the above-linked preview says it well.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link
im now imagining a load of odd similies and hip hop quotes on this album.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 12 December 2009 10:14 (fourteen years ago) link
(that hopkins one is a bit crap, though im sure it sounds good)
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 12 December 2009 10:15 (fourteen years ago) link
the old fans who lost her w/Pt. 1 will like this a lot, I think
Not gonna lie. This tempered my enthusiasm just a teeny tiny bit since I think Pt. 1 is her best album yet. But since Mama's Gun is right up there as runner-up, I guess this sounds awesome.
― really senile old crap shit (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link
well I think this was always planned as the most accessible album in the series (like, "Honey" was supposed to be on this album, which is why it was only a bonus track when it was bumped to the first album)
― some dude, Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
an album of "honey"s would be the best thing ever probably
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
crazy about the wayne track maybe being dropped because of the leak. THANKS INTERNET.
― high-five machine (schlump), Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
so what's this about a "track from the album featuring lil wayne"? the writer doesnt mention wayne at all
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
The audio clip didn't sound promising, but I suppose it could just be the shitty cell phone quality.
― really senile old crap shit (Eric H.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link
― high-five machine (schlump), Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:45 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i think you mean thanks wayne's lax studio security that lets everything he makes get leaked
― some dude, Saturday, 12 December 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i'd like wayne as far away from this as possible tbh, i can't even think of a rapper i'd like on a badu record in 2009
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
it seems like kind of a perfunctory collab like all wayne collabs are these days, but a year or two back he was mentioning Badu as an influence in a lot of interviews, namedropping her in "A Milli," etc., so I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt.
― some dude, Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
apparently jump in the air features ten mcs. i don't know what this means.
― high-five machine (schlump), Saturday, 12 December 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
probably just that, like many R&B albums these days, there will be a remix version of the lead single with a bunch of rappers on it
― some dude, Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not slated for the album.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ghostface would be fine on an erykah album
― that is a whole discussion within itself that is worth debating (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Others have expressed their pumpitude for this album. I would like to say that I too am pumped, and that New Amerykah Part One somehow turned out to be my favorite 2008 record. Time is magic, etc.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i like to imagine that the reason this took so long to come out is because badu had to keep sending wayne's verses back to be tweaked, each time saying "this is good, but less feces references, please"
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
or, you know, cause she took some time off to have a babby
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
^no imagination
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
"If anything leaks, I won't put out this album," she said about potential future leaks. "I worked too hard for that to happen. Let a bitch make some money some kind of way."
^^^^ this is awesome but also terrifying
― taoiseachizown (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
mostly terrifying imo
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
― that is a whole discussion within itself that is worth debating (forksclovetofu), Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ugh
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Saturday, 12 December 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
^^
― k3vin k., Saturday, 12 December 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link
it's spelled "wu"
― that is a whole discussion within itself that is worth debating (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 13 December 2009 05:44 (fourteen years ago) link
fatbellybella 3 / 30 / 2010 15 minutes ago from Tweetie
― Lt. Colonel JOHN NAGL (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 January 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Gahdamit.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 January 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Seriously? So we should expect this in December or something, I suppose.
― Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 14 January 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
always the optimist
― The tendrils INTERTWINE with gentle undulations. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 January 2010 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link
it'll be a double disc with d'angelo.
― The tendrils INTERTWINE with gentle undulations. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 January 2010 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
new album out end of march. cant fucking wait.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 22 January 2010 12:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll believe it when I have it in my hands.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 22 January 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link
01 20 Feet Tall [produced by Erykah Badu and 9th Wonder]02 Window Seat [produced by Erykah Badu and James Poyser, featuring ?uestlove]03 Agitation [produced by Erykah Badu and Shafiq Husayn of SA-RA Creative Partners]04 Get Money [produced by Erykah Badu]05 Don't Be Long [produced by Erykah Badu and Taarak]06 Love [produced by Erykah Badu and J Dilla]07 Umm Hmm [produced by Erykah Badu and Madlib]08 Fall in Love [produced by Erykah Badu and Karriem Riggins]09 Incense (Instrumental) [produced by Erykah Badu and Madlib]10 Out My Mind Just in Time (Part 1) (Undercover Over-Lover) [produced by Erykah Badu]11 Out My Mind Just in Time (Part 2) [produced by Erykah Badu and Georgia Anne Muldrow]12 Jump in the Air [ft. Lil Wayne and Bilal] [produced by Erykah Badu, RC Williams and Jahborn] *
* web-only bonus track
― when I met you last night, baby, before you opened up your GAPDY (The Reverend), Saturday, 23 January 2010 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Glad there's a wide range of producers here, a lot of whom obviously play to her strengths. Surprised there's nothing from Jay Electronica, though.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link
he was prob too busy looking after the baby.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 23 January 2010 10:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Thought it was supposed to be 10 MC's on "Jump In The Air"?
― Number None, Saturday, 23 January 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Apparently following the listening session leak of the Wayne version, the original plan of 10 separate releases of Jump in the Air was scrapped in favour of one Wayne web only version. Shame.
― Alex in Montreal, Saturday, 23 January 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
wait so wayne is not going to be on the album? awesome!
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 January 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
haha otm
― when I met you last night, baby, before you opened up your GAPDY (The Reverend), Sunday, 24 January 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link
It was never earmarked for the album. She said at the listening party that it was planned as a leak--ten diff't versions w/ten MCs. So the web-only-bonus thing is basically in keeping w/that.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Sunday, 24 January 2010 05:53 (fourteen years ago) link
(And it would throw off the album totally if it were on it, officially. "Honey" works as a coda to Pt. 1 but this wouldn't for Pt. 2.)
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Sunday, 24 January 2010 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link
At 3:33 pm Tomorrow . Friday . The official leak ... erykahbadu.comabout 8 hours ago from Tweetie
― Number None, Friday, 29 January 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
nuthin up yet.
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I assume it's EST?
― Number None, Friday, 29 January 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
erykah standard time
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 29 January 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Wiki now has track twelve listed as part three of "Out My Mind (Just in Time)", any truth to this?
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 January 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
not necessarily any, it's interpreting a december Vibe piece which reads:
"Out My Mind Just in Time (Part 1) (Undercover Over-Lover)/Out My Mind Just in Time (Part 2)"Badu calls this her second three-song suite ("You'll have to wait to hear [Part 3] when the album comes out," she says)
― zvookster, Friday, 29 January 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i know y'all will, but somebody please post when this goes up on site.
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
leak of what??????
― max ipad (k3vin k.), Friday, 29 January 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
amerykah pt 2 iirc
― bnw, Friday, 29 January 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
she's...leaking the record?
― max ipad (k3vin k.), Friday, 29 January 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
"At 3:33 pm Tomorrow . Friday . The official leak ... erykahbadu.comabout 8 hours ago from Tweetie"
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
She's probably streaming preview clips, right?
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 29 January 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Kinda don't see her unspooling the whole album proper.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 29 January 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i wanna see the sleeve
― schlump, Friday, 29 January 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link
low expectations
leaking a single or song obviously
― some dude, Friday, 29 January 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, that was my assumption
― tza nicholas ii (The Reverend), Friday, 29 January 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
3:33 PST erykahbadu.com 2 minutes ago from web
― van smack, Friday, 29 January 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Jeez, two more hours.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 29 January 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
so what's that 6.30 EST?
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 29 January 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
ahh i missed the pacificbillboard says it's a promo video
pretty sure that didn't need spoilering
― schlump, Friday, 29 January 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
check it out y'all XD
― schlump, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link
oh hey, it's past 3:33
― zvincter (The Reverend), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
m@tt's new name > yr new name imo
― zvookster, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link
3.30.10 maybe
― schlump, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I haven't seen matt's
― zvincter (The Reverend), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:42 (fourteen years ago) link
i like it! typical garbage nu-wayne verse but love the groove
(also i am no master of great login names by any stretch, rev has had way more than i have)
― i get mines the fast way, the balaclava way (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
(but glad u like this one)
the video stopped working properly halfway thru :(
kind ehhh... makes me want to listen to Lucy Pearl's "Dance Tonight" for some reason
― zvincter (The Reverend), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link
think it sounds gr8
lol @ "(MAYBE)", refreshing
― zvookster, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
like refreshing dubious, not secret tracks when you refresh
― zvookster, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link
how is j dilla still producing so many beats?
― brrrrrrrrrrrrrt_stanton (a hoy hoy), Friday, 29 January 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
alottapeopletalkinrumorswhosthehottesttobehonesthiphopain'tbeenthesamesincedillamovedtocubaonus
― zvookster, Friday, 29 January 2010 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link
ayo zvook are you on 77 yet? if not, webmail me your email address
― zvincter (The Reverend), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link
This is absolutely fine.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
this current incarnation of lil wayne works perfectly on something like this but is worthless in just about any other context
― Goon's Anatomy (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Khia and Adam Lambert could tag team an Erykah track and I wouldn't mind.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link
haha that would kind of be amazing tbh
― Goon's Anatomy (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
zvook: do you see a board marked "private" on the front page of ilx now? not sure it's working right
― zvincter (The Reverend), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"My Neck, My Back" is a classic and fuck you if you disagree.
I do not disagree. (And, OT, why do people insist on talking about 77 on other boards?)
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link
in this case, because it's kind of hard to talk about 77 on 77 with someone who is not on 77
― zvincter (The Reverend), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
front page = "Boards" right? no i don't, u must need the email connected to ilx i guess? not even sure what that is
― zvookster, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link
will get back 2 u
― zvookster, Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
ah, that would be the problem. yeah, I need your ilx email.
― zvincter (The Reverend), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link
User has been successfully added to private board.Return to Front Page
― zvincter (The Reverend), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link
The original track that this references is my favorite underrated P.Funk jam of all time, this is a tense sort of dark-matter track and Wayne made me smile four times in his rap. Anticipation / Making me wait.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
<3 <3 <3 Hydraulic Pump
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 January 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty awesome
― bnw, Saturday, 30 January 2010 01:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I like it! And its actually probably my favorite Weezy guest verse in awhile now. Definite lolz @ "(Maybe)" though.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 30 January 2010 04:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, this is good
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 30 January 2010 05:21 (fourteen years ago) link
she's tweeting the lyrics now
it's a great song
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 31 January 2010 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link
are there any versions of this on YouTube that don't sound like they were recorded with a cell phone held up to a speaker?
― alf shumway (some dude), Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
not youtube but
http://hypem.com/search/erykah%20badu/1/
― wtf lebron, that chick doesn't need a gatorade bath (k3vin k.), Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
good thinking there; looking forward to the bilal version
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
not me; i can't think of a time when bilal's voice hasn't made me break out in hives
― alf shumway (some dude), Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
huh! i'll chalk that up to ymmv; i always liked him.
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ok actual cdq version is great -- was kinda worried on first listen that it was mixed in some really annoying way that was gonna make me hate it
― alf shumway (some dude), Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
the original leak was recorded by someone at a listening party. that's probably what you heard.
― zvincter (The Reverend), Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
man, who even tries to do that kind of devious shit in this day and age? That's potential jail time and absolutely "you'll-never-work-in-this-town-again" action.
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 31 January 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
CAN I GET A WINDOW SEAT?
― Alex in Montreal, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link
was just gonna
fatbellybella Okay here's first single "Window Seat" http://tinyurl.com/yatheoa >>> about 3 hours ago from Tweetie
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Diggin' this, tbh. This is really not exactly what I was expecting and is really wonderful.
― Alex in Montreal, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Wasn't that into it until 1:25 when it started getting really good, then 2:00 when it got amazing, then went back and loved the whole thing.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:26 (fourteen years ago) link
DON'T WANT NOBODY NEXT TO ME
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I JUST WANT A CHANCE TO FLYA CHANCE TO CRYAND A LONG GOODBYE
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I NEED YOU NEXT TO ME
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I DON'T WANNA TIME TRAVEL NO MOREI WANNA BE HEEEERE
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I DONT WANNA TIME TRAVEL NO MOREI WANNA BE HERE, I'M THINKINGSO ON THIS PORCH I'M ROCKINBACK AND FORTH LIKE LIGHTNING HOPKINS
― Alex in Montreal, Saturday, 6 February 2010 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
:DDDDDDD *downloads*
― rasta batman gigolo (k3vin k.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link
if you're like me & thta link don't work - http://www.mediafire.com/?nujitgzgtmy
― rasta batman gigolo (k3vin k.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Erykah Badu – Window Seat 39 minutes ago Erykah Badu – Window Seat 47 minutes ago Erykah Badu – Window Seat 53 minutes ago Erykah Badu – Window Seat 58 minutes ago
otm
― rasta batman gigolo (k3vin k.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I NEED YOUR DIRECTIONS
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:27 (fourteen years ago) link
don't wannw say infallible but
― een, Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link
naw, she has some mediocre material, just not lately
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:32 (fourteen years ago) link
questo's drum fill at the beginning makes me think of "Booty"
― The Reverend, Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Somewhere around the time of Worldwide Underground, she turned her supposed weaknesses (i.e. directionlessness, langorousness, self-referencing) into her greatest strengths. I don't think she's really had a weak moment since.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, this is very Mama's Gun.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E9hTz0lPBQ
<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3
― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 6 February 2010 08:59 (fourteen years ago) link
wow this is beautiful
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 February 2010 09:23 (fourteen years ago) link
and yeah very mama's gun
http://www.rap-up.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/window-seat.jpg
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 February 2010 09:25 (fourteen years ago) link
So gooood.
Thanks for the heads up.
― babylon sister (Siah Alan), Saturday, 6 February 2010 09:59 (fourteen years ago) link
if anybody speak to scotty tell him beam me up..
lyrics: http://www.baduworld.com/window_seat2.pdf
― Alex in Montreal, Saturday, 6 February 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
so nice
― bnw, Saturday, 6 February 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link
back and forth like lightnin hopkins imo
― chronicles of radric (zvookster), Saturday, 6 February 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
^
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 7 February 2010 06:10 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^i concur, but those are the lyrics that badu gave us? i dunno.
― Alex in Montreal, Sunday, 7 February 2010 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link
ah this is v pretty
― hoos n nem (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 7 February 2010 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link
!!
― rasta batman gigolo (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 February 2010 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link
the entire world will love this album
― rasta batman gigolo (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 February 2010 07:12 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightnin'_Hopkins
― The Reverend, Sunday, 7 February 2010 08:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Erykah Badu – Window Seat 34 minutes ago Erykah Badu – Window Seat 47 minutes ago Erykah Badu – Window Seat yesterday afternoon Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 2:43am Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 2:38am Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 2:32am Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 2:26am Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 10:53pm Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 10:44pm Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 10:38pm Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 10:23pm Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 9:32pm Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 9:25pm Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 9:18pm Erykah Badu – Window Seat Yesterday 9:13pm
― The Reverend, Sunday, 7 February 2010 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link
re: lightnin' hopkins - i know who he is, i meant "like" vs. "light" as the word immediately preceding. 'like' makes sense, 'light' is erykah's lyric sheet.
― Alex in Montreal, Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Good tune.
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
<333
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 8 February 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^i concur, but those are the lyrics that badu gave us?
yes, but it's one of those things where i prefer what i heard.
― chronicles of ridic (zvookster), Monday, 8 February 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
interesting, who knows these might get taken down so grab these
http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=5405#more-5405
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
windows seat is amazing
― average gangsta rap from average gangstas (deej), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
*window seat -- lol computers
love it!
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
good lookin out kevin
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link
New version of the flash vid: http://erykahbadu.com/
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 12 February 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I like me some Erykah Badu but I gotta confess her vocals on her live version of James Taylor's "You've Got a Friend" last night in Dallas at the NBA Allstar weekend were kinda weak. Plus my son and his cousins were giggling about her hat.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 February 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGungVw6P0
The acoustic bass is great and I think her vocals get better as the song goes along
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 February 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i have "jump up in the air and stay there" written on a piece of paper and taped to inside of my bedroom door -- i find it to be a very inspiring sentiment
the video confirms my belief that brain-fried, chronic mispronouncing wayne is totally perfect for the song
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 February 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"window seat" >>>>> "jump up in the air and stay there" - i really hope the album resembles the former more than the latter
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Sunday, 14 February 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
would it be so hard for lil wayne just to write out a coherent rap instead making up some bs on the spot
― lukevalentine, Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Mijo, zero degreeyo, frioGet into your soul like Neyo, weeyoOh I meant ohwee or is it oohweeTruly I don’t give a fuck
― lukevalentine, Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:56 PM Bookmark
This. (Though, from what Matos told me, it's much more in the vein of the former, and the latter is being left off because it would be way out of place and wouldn't even work as a coda in the way "Honey" did.)
― The Reverend, Sunday, 14 February 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Gotta admit, "Jump" has definitely gotten quite a few more plays on my iTunes.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link
yes! does matos like it?
xp
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link
well it's been out longer, eric
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link
You're right. I'll just admit, then, that "Jump" > "Window" ... for me.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I really really do love Mama's Gun-type stuff, tho. It's just stuff I have to be way more in the mood for.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Friday, December 11, 2009 10:40 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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― The Reverend, Monday, 15 February 2010 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah i remember that
― vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
:D
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 15 February 2010 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link
jump up in the air has gotten progressively more jawdropping with repeated plays. it's pretty raw psych funk. wayne's wasted verse works but doesn't really add anything of value
― ramadaan muhammad asalaamica rasoul allah supana watallah (jk), Monday, 15 February 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Love the fact that the metallic reverb from "Hydraulic Pump" only surfaces a couple times during the track.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 15 February 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i cannot wait.
― ha! (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
bit late but i love the "jump up in the air" video
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i <3 how they stop the kaleidoscope madness right when wayne pops up and says "bee-low" & makes some weird crooked face
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/42050349.gifhttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/42050349.gifhttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/42050349.gifhttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/42050349.gif
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link
exactly
― nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 06:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I have "Jump Up" stuck in my head a lot btw.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 08:09 (fourteen years ago) link
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
http://pinboardblog.com/2010/02/21/erykah-badu-out-my-mind-just-in-time-part-1-undercover-over-lover-preview/
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 22 February 2010 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i like!
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 February 2010 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link
that song sounds amazing
― Jandrews, Monday, 22 February 2010 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
nice but not really loopable like window seat
― bnw, Monday, 22 February 2010 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link
like a more restrained green eyes
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 22 February 2010 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link
On twitter at the moment, Erykah is on a frantic quest to get in touch with Paul McCartney via Stella via Lenny Kravitz so she can clear a Paul McCartney sample for the album within the next 24 hours. Or else one song won't make the album. :S
― Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 25 February 2010 08:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Hope she replaces it with "Jump Up in the Air" if that's the case.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
so what is jump up in the air actually called
"jump up in the air and stay there""jump up in the air (and stay there)""jump up in the air (stay there)"
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link
it's when i ask questions like those that i reflect on how last.fm has ruined my life
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha.
Watch the McCartney-sampling song be "Undercover Overlover, part 2"
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Sample cleared. Crisis averted.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG, these two preview snippets bring what I've been waiting for!
http://thesoulofdfw.com/national/news-gossip/michaelbaisden/the-leak-erykah-badu-agitation-dont-be-long-radio-rip/
(Feel at this point like I'ma hear this whole album before I get it in my hands.)
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
(Apparently samples are what does it for me, et al.)
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
L*U*S*H
― Touch! Generations (stevie), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
she's so great, expectations pretty high for this now
― ogmor, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm really glad she managed to clear that McCartney sample.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
live on jimmy kimmel on march 30
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought I saw March 3rd, as in tomorrow night!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Lol wait, Jimmy Fallon tomorrow night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ6t1_tYH4M
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
what is with her and the number 33? I mean, I know what I think it means, but what does she think it means?
― ha! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
she's obsessed with 333, not 33
― fart and crazy swag (The Reverend), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
okay...what about 333?
― ha! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_b82K1cBLDgQ/SKyWpSF0NUI/AAAAAAAAAsE/owrW0GTWkqk/s320/333_Green_Jelly.jpg
― based on the novel 'kush' by datfire (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm just gonna do a little BRAGGIN 2010, and say I got to sit in the icy cold Studio 6B and watch Erykah and band rehearse that jam yesterday morning.
― based on the novel 'kush' by datfire (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://imgur.com/DxNHt.jpg
― i'm #FFFFFF btw (bnw), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
<3 <3 ?uestlove, except when chris dave would have been there otherwise
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
aw man she killed it
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
badu is like top 3 wifey material right?
duh, of course
― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Great performance. So excited for this.
Also, FINALLY bought Worlwide Underground last week, really can't believe I waited so long. So good!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah great performance
― how is "babby" horribly formed????? (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
weird ass outfit
― i'm #FFFFFF btw (bnw), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
And you were expecting...?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
― i'm #FFFFFF btw (bnw), Thursday, March 4, 2010 4:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
FOE REALZ WAHT STYLE IS THIS SUPER HERO MEETS ABE LINCOLN?
― Anton Levain (jdchurchill), Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
badu is like top 3 wifey material right?― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 4, 2010 4:23 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkduh, of course― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Thursday, March 4, 2010 4:24 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
― HOOM gang (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 4, 2010 4:23 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Thursday, March 4, 2010 4:24 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
Agreed, as long as backup singer to her left is also in the top 3.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Friday, 5 March 2010 04:03 (fourteen years ago) link
top 3? top 1 more like
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 5 March 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link
?uestlove tweeting a ton about the new recordquestlove im on the 8 minute mark for the 4th time. damn damn damn damn!!!! i want a recount! why i get window seat?! i want the last 10 min song!!
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"window seat" is crushingly good
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess you could say that songs are crafted the way Subway sandwiches are made. You start with the bread, then a little bit of lettuce, then we point to the pickles and so on, and the bass line was the oil and vinegar. That's how it happens.
kinda geeky making-of tech interview
― werewolf congress (schlump), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
did not know whiney was producing this, congrats!
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link
NO CHEESE ON THIS SONG PLEASE, ERYKAH
- Whiney G Weingarten
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link
looool
― i can make my sprays turn into a shart (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, that is some good shit. most interesting:
-she records in the control room with no headphones, did not know that-the part about how the engineer doesn't even like to put the vocals recorded to tape back into pro tools, because it changes the sound, damn-madlib submitted his track as a single mp3, holy shit
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link
madlib submitted his song as a streamable 32kbps .rm file to stay away from the whole digital vibe
― werewolf congress (schlump), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
YSI?
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i love how she hiccups "buh-by" -- also how she abruptly ends the sentence "if anyone speak to scotty, tell em beam me up"
― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 07:35 (fourteen years ago) link
just had interview with her confirmed for tomorrow :D
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 07:58 (fourteen years ago) link
― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a politics-slanted i/view, not an arts one
can't remember when i was last really nervous about meeting an artist! prob mjb
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:05 (fourteen years ago) link
are you going to the playback, alex? see you there, if so!
― ade or nabisco - i get em confused (stevie), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:06 (fourteen years ago) link
yes!!! so excited
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link
"madlib submitted his track as a single mp3, holy shit"
great. :(
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 08:41 (fourteen years ago) link
hate all of you going to the playback
rough shot of the cover art:
http://soulbounce.com/soul/assets_c/2010/03/erykah-badu-new-amerykah-part-2-partial-cover-thumb-473xauto-6444.jpg
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
on first listen, its a fucking awesome record. the closing epic is, in the best way, green eyes pt 2.
― aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
well alright then xp
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
― aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:07 PM (48 seconds ago)
how are you listening to it?
― TNTiger: we know sexy (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
WHOA
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
somehow that cover is not that surprising
― ogmor, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Surprising, no. Overwhelmingly awesome, yes, definitely.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
it looks like a bad rave poster from 1995
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
also, window seat isnt at all bad, but it does sound like she can barely be bothered with it. i get the impression she doesnt mind too much which seat she gets.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
eh no, she's not disinterested she's disillusioned imo
― TNTiger: we know sexy (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
badu came to london today to play the record to reviewers.
― aw beat de holy jasus.. (stevie), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta second stevie. album is amazing, she is a genius &c &c. my notes for one song just say "couldn't write anything, song too gorgeous".
she wore some very strange baby blue capri pants, stiletto boots which looked like doc martens and a top hat, btw.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
also, when asked when the thing would be released, she looked genuinely baffled and said something like, "i don't know, don't y'all have the internet now?"
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
also:
you're in love with me - but i'm driving your benzyou're in love with me - but i'm drinking your ginyou're in love with me - but i'm fucking your friends
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
:O
― shining for no apparent reason (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
when is this due out? i need to hear it asap.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
don't y'all have the internet now?
― shining for no apparent reason (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
3/30???that's what it said on the fye dry-erase board
― failboat fucking captain (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
i think they mean in uk
― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link
oh...
― failboat fucking captain (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link
that is one ugly cover
― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 18 March 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
you built a walla 20ft wallso i couldn't seebut if i get off my kneesi might recalli'm 20ft tall
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
^omg
― failboat fucking captain (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.erykahbadu.com/
― just sayin, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
there's some great theremin-esque action on this record btw
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
"milliseconds"
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Apparently that's "Strawberry Incense"? Nice.
― shining for no apparent reason (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link
that sounds like harp!
Ladies and Gentlemen,Hip hop's HOOM has arrived.- GQ Magazine
― snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahaha matt <3
― funky house septics, let me drain you of this (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
XD
― shining for no apparent reason (The Reverend), Friday, 19 March 2010 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
yes there is plenty of harp on this record.
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 19 March 2010 07:38 (fourteen years ago) link
prob that kaos pad she always is messing with live
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 19 March 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah exactly. would purchase album of her just dicking abt with that for an hour.
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 19 March 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link
dammit, this can't drop soon enough
― shining for no apparent reason (The Reverend), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
peeps that have heard it:
i have only heard the song on that's on her home page and "window seat"
i think they are good, but i really dug the awesome, weird messed up p-funk meets dilla type more hard hitting groove songs on the first new amerykah
are there more uptempo or midtempo ones? cuz the two i've heard are good but definitely meeeeelllooooow
― snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
its a pretty mellow set, all told. she said that this is her left-side-of-brain album, more emotional, less political. its no less awesome though.
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm putting myself in the mindset that I can enjoy this album a lot even if it doesn't come with the raw like "The Cell" or "Twinkle."
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
m@tt you shld also listen to 'jump up in the air (stay there)'
― just sayin, Friday, 19 March 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
sounds like it's gonna be a lot like 'mama's gun' which is great for me, bcz mama's gun is one of my favourite albums...
this:
reminds me a LOT of why I fell in love with 'Mama's Gun' to begin with.
― failboat fucking captain (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 20 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yn70Qi-D_w
― Andy K, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link
also:you're in love with me - but i'm driving your benzyou're in love with me - but i'm drinking your ginyou're in love with me - but i'm fucking your friends
The lyrics for each song, except this one, are printed in the booklet.
Each song has its own page. Beneath the title for this one: "(lyrics too terrible to write)"
― Andy K, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahaha!
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link
agitation, produced by sa ra, is one of the gems on this album... has a real rotary connection feel to it.
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:45 (fourteen years ago) link
That one fills the "Amerykahn Promise" slot this time right? Flat out track jack? (But a good one, nonetheless.)
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ooh, i'm not sure - don't recognise the source, and there's nothing on the song-writing credits i have suggesting that
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
It's "Just As I Thought" by David Sancious
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link
that's totally right, thanks for cluing me in on that eric
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
do u guys have this record now?
― harshbuzz to my chilt-on (zvookster), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
reviewing via nu-fangled stream, innit
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link
ah!
― harshbuzz to my chilt-on (zvookster), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link
― queen frostine (Eric H.)
oh haha gilles peterson played that erykah badu track last month, brought over on CDR by jay electronica
― harshbuzz to my chilt-on (zvookster), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:06 (fourteen years ago) link
or a snippet i guess. also "don't b long". Gilles Peterson Worldwide 2010-02-24
― harshbuzz to my chilt-on (zvookster), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I want nu-amerykahn-fangled review stream. :(
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link
agitation's only 90 seconds or so
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't get the fucking fucking stupid stream to work >>>:(
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
~analog boy in a digital world~
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Full-blown copies are circulating, so it's only a matter of time before someone uploads.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, and ...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Erykah_Badu_New_Amerykah_Part_Two.jpg
http://blog.iso50.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bjork-post.jpg
Just sayin'
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Oops, I meant
http://www.recordsale.org/cdpix/b/bjoerk-homogenic(digi).jpg
... I don't get it.
― ALLAH! *rolls on floor* (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
The album cover design seems very similar to me.
Plus both are like about 45 minutes long. And totally awesome for it.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
But don't mind me. There are about four artists out there I'm fanatical about and I tend to believe they are all the same person.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf those album covers are nothing alike :|
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
But don't mind me.― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:37 AM
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link
http://nahright.com/news/2010/03/24/erykah-badu-turn-me-away-get-munny/
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
not the sampled song in question but a crazy jam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvYsJ-glv7M
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link
― harshbuzz to my chilt-on (zvookster), Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
think she's on gilles peterson next week, btw, & a song off the record was on last night's show.
― egregious apostrophising (schlump), Wednesday, 24 March 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link
http://bembesegue.bandcamp.com/track/sense-of-humor
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 March 2010 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow, that's a popular track now.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 12:35 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42IPlbC9H_Q
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 March 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wf1KOlBhGs
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 March 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9XK4FpnSO8
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 March 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
re: "Take Me." Really?
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, the McCartney sample seems like the only really adventurous one out of the lineup.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
really?! "Arrow Through Me" is one of my touchstones.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxpost
http://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/7251out all day, missed this in my inbox
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 25 March 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
This album is really 80s isn't it? All of these thick modern soul synths, rubbery basslines... I'm not really hearing the organic "throwback to Baduizm" thing people were saying besides "Window Seat"
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 25 March 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
spank rock -_-
― Violent (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
She kinda fulfilled the adventure quota ten times over with the last one, no?
Yeah, most of the samples are '79/'80. The album could have come out on 2000 Black (but then Kaidi and Dego etc would have replayed everything).
I'm not really hearing the organic "throwback to Baduizm" thing people were saying besides "Window Seat"
Me neither, and the last song with Muldrow is a very different organic.
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, really -- slowed a bit.
Yes, really -- untouched, more or less. (You can even hear Paul's "Oooooh"s.)
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
And by untouched I mean the basic groove is there. It's not like it's the song note-for-note with Erykah's voice over it.
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
"My Darling Baby" by Wood, Brass & Steel is also used, but it's not on YouTube.
― Andy K, Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
This has leaked.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
then she's not gonna release it ;(
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link
The one that samples Wings is marvelous.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link
FUCK STUDYING
― 51ocki (k3vin k.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck listening to gus johnson announce a basketball game?
― Violent (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
― 51ocki (k3vin k.), Thursday, 25 March 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Mixed emotions DL-ing it, but this is really the only way I'm getting a review in on it.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 March 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link
It's streaming on Luisterpaal now.
― jam master (jaymc), Friday, 26 March 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I am playing this album now.
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:07 (fourteen years ago) link
"Turn Me Away" is supercuet
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:20 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^
get money
― deej khalifa (deej), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:21 (fourteen years ago) link
hmmm... the fact that the leaked version of "Turn Me Away" is 4:17, whereas the album version is 5:26 indicates that the leak is a radio edit and therefore it's going to be a single OF WHICH I HEARTILY APPROVE
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link
get money should be the new otm
gtm
― deej khalifa (deej), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link
feelin the next track too
― deej khalifa (deej), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:25 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, same here. this is the smoovest shit
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:26 (fourteen years ago) link
the badu album this sounds most like (so far at least) is Worldwide Underground! that's the one where she did all these early-80s funk jams before, except on this one they're way more focused
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link
gone baby, don't be long is beautiful
― Violent (J0rdan S.), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
when she starts riffing on biggie lyrics its like me singing in the shower
― deej khalifa (deej), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I notice she does it twice over the course of the album
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:46 (fourteen years ago) link
what's the other -- i'm reading & not really paying attention to lyrics atm
― Violent (J0rdan S.), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:47 (fourteen years ago) link
theres gonna be a lotta slow singing and flower bringin if my burglar alarm starts ringin
― deej khalifa (deej), Friday, 26 March 2010 06:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I think "Turn Me Away" and "Gone Baby, Don't Be Long" are my immediate faves
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link
gone baby, gone baby, don't be looooong
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Nope, it's a theremin.
― Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Friday, 26 March 2010 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link
you sure? its not a theremin she uses when she plays live...
― Wat ho, goatee'd man? Thy skinnee jenes hath byrn'd my corneyas. (stevie), Friday, 26 March 2010 08:55 (fourteen years ago) link
ok i KNOW there's an uncensored version of "you loving me" because they played it to us, so it had better find its way to me at some point
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 26 March 2010 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Out My Mind, Just in Time ... just ...
Out. My. Mind. Just. In. Time.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 March 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Overall, settling into this one. It doesn't instantly hit me like the last one did, but it's gonna grow on me. The "Intimate Friends" riff is probably the weakest joint. Also not quite taken with the Madlib one yet, either.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 March 2010 11:49 (fourteen years ago) link
No one is credited with theremin. My guess is that it's the moogerfooger.
― Andy K, Friday, 26 March 2010 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
She's definitely returned to the pre-New Amerykah ethos on this one.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 March 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
"PREE-pare to have your shit rearranged"
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 March 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Pre-AmErykah ethos, but post-AmErykah production. Not necessarily "best of both worlds," but I'm glad to at least hear it's not simply another Mama's Gun.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 March 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Obligatory posthumous Dilla jam is fantastic.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 March 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
The love songs have the floating-underwater vibe in which she specializes; when expressing affection it's more like she's testing phrases and the limits of her feelings than aiming them at someone concrete.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 March 2010 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Article in latest EQ magazine suggests that's because she (like Marvin Gaye) sings out a melody and then eventually works up lyrics to match those phrases.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 March 2010 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
we do not have confirmation that (like marvin gaye) she records her vocals sitting down smoking weed with her friends though, which would also add to the vibes
― egregious apostrophising (schlump), Friday, 26 March 2010 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
yes, we don't*
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 March 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Can't get around the fact that I'd like this album waaaaaaaaaay better if it didn't have the umpteenth reiteration of "Intimate Friends."
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Erykah told me it was a theremin, but who knows.
― Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Friday, 26 March 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
matos be pullin trump cards
― stephen juaquin (The Reverend), Friday, 26 March 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
oh i see how it is
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 26 March 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
UM YOU GUYShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fld7YmVpymY&feature=player_embedded
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Saturday, 27 March 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
is that ass real
― hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 March 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
things i do not expect to see in erykah badu video #1: "Inspired by Matt and Kim"#2: TITTAYS
(B I gotta say she gotta BANGIN body)
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 27 March 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i spelled booty wrong btw
― forksclovetofu, Saturday, 27 March 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
O__________O
― 51ocki (k3vin k.), Saturday, 27 March 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
btw yall are forgetting
http://www.youtube.com/v/OvwuVdffvO0
― 51ocki (k3vin k.), Saturday, 27 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
NEVER FORGET
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Saturday, 27 March 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
i'll be forever in love with this lady, to me she can do no wrong.of course this is the dope shit!
― Aerosol, Saturday, 27 March 2010 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link
What is up with the Rick James/ Patrice Rushen/ Peaches & Herb beads she's been rocking lately lol
― The Brainwasher, Saturday, 27 March 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
video is slightly corny, but it's earned since there are very few albums less revealing than Mama's Gun...what word does the purple blood spell out?
I'm definitely thinking now that Badu is a high priestess of Funk. (Here is a handy link to a thread where Mark Sinker explains how George Clinton used The Process Church of the Final Judgement as a sort of template to turn Funk into an alternative system of faith and beliefs.)
― don't let it rest on the President's desk (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 March 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
*there should actually be the word 'possible' in front of the word 'alternative'...nothing was ever actually set in stone...
― don't let it rest on the President's desk (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 March 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
what word does the purple blood spell out?
GAPDY
― mdskltr (blueski), Sunday, 28 March 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
that's what I thought!
― don't let it rest on the President's desk (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 March 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
ditto!
― forksclovetofu, Sunday, 28 March 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
lmao @ assassinated nudist
― ruh roh I'm having a scooby snack (some dude), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
actually it's GROUPTHINK. also how is Mama's Gun not revealing, esp "Green Eyes" and "And On".
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
god I love mark sinker.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link
less = more, my bad
― don't let it rest on the President's desk (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 28 March 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
get munny is da jam all over again
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
sounds like a jax 5 joint imo
― 51ocki (k3vin k.), Monday, 29 March 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
sounds like the song its obv interpolating imo
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
right, hence "all over again"
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link
yes im responding to k3v
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link
no shit deej, hers is a completely different tone of voice tho
― 51ocki (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link
i hate not having liner notes. anyone know who plays drums on agitation? or is it sampled from the original track?
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
and the rest of the record (window seat aside) for that matter
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
karriem?
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Agitation is the original track replayed and maybe sweetened a little bit, but I'm pretty sure the drums were left alone.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Window Seat: ?uestloveGet MuNNY: Riggens
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I love having liner notes because I bought the CD. $9.98 at Target, what what.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Me too. I will never not buy a physical copy of a new album by Erykah Badu.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link
she was kinda distracted and terrible looking on 106
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
She discusses not always looking so awesome IN THE LINER NOTES. I am not kidding.
― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
She sort of calls herself ugly in the liner notes.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
don't get me wrong I think she looks amazing most of the time, but wtf kind of stoner magician look is thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g1heejCbk0
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Fall In Love (Your Funeral) is such the jam, must've played it 5-6 times at work today--sort of the successor/sequel to "Soldier" from the last one (another Riggins/Badu collab):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mhDSIM73k
― Don't Make Me A Burrito (Craig D.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
That one and the Madlib track are the two I'm not quite feeling yet.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
had no idea there was ~controversy~ over the "window seat" video http://is.gd/b7Syb
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link
In Dallas, some were upset at the video's use of the iconic Kennedy setting. Ron Rice, who gives "JFK walking tours" in Dealey Plaza, told the Dallas Morning News that he thought Badu's actions were irresponsible. "It's against the law, and she should be locked up," he said. "If I did that I would already be in jail."
haha yes, let's IMPRISON a woman for being naked. "locked up" lol
― 51ocki (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i find the idea of his death tourist business a lot more distasteful. ts nudity vs gawking and cameras at an assassination location
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Ugh, just saw the anchors of the CBS Early Show talking about this. They sounded like Fox pundits.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf @ this being a national - or indeed international - news story
i didn't think it was even that insane a video - i kinda roll my eyes at the idea of conveying a high-minded message via the medium of gettin' naked in a pop video - but given this shit, maybe she had a point. (also, totally didn't clock the location when i watched it.)
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Lots of people (in the US, at least) get worked up about public breastfeeding, so of course THIS is a BIG DEAL.
It was "covered" by my LOCAL (Detroit) news, ffs.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I definitely thought "is that the book depository" when the camera panned over it.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i find the idea of his death tourist business a lot more distasteful.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
as someone who goes thru WTC at least twice a week, you eventually learn to block it out.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link
it was an attention whore video, guys, she got what she wanted.
dope album, though.
― forktongueclovenhoofu (some dude), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link
okay I am 2 minutes into this album and it is amazing
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
video is kinda trite but cute; fine by me. beyond the highbrow framing i still find it quite affecting wrt the song itself, specifically the "need you to want me/ need some attention" aspect, but then i suppose maybe i just favour triteness that's of my own making.
great, great album anyway - haven't had the strongest badu affinity to date but this is already my favourite of hers. at first i guess i was feeling like she mightve half-assed it a little but the final track casts such a profound shadow back over the rest of it all somehow, it's pretty amazing.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link
After a few listens, I'm convinced it's weaker song-for-song than New Amerykah; occasionally the production and arrangements are monotonous. But the good songs reflect the advances of 4th World War.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i find the dilla cut fairly tedious after a while personally but that's about it.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm convinced it's weaker song-for-song than New Amerykah
What album of the last few years isn't, though?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, sure, but 4th World War is a great album and this one is very good.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
as a huge dill and madlib stan, their tracks are my least favourite thus far, but maybe they're just slow burners
― d15turb3nc3 @ th3 w@ff13 h0u53 (stevie), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
And I'm very satisfied with that.
xpost
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
4th World War is a great album and this one is very good.
This. But I'm glad it's a very good album. My brain can only be melted so many times.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
For anyone else who bought the CD: is the "I'm fxxking your friends" line edited out?? Or is there an uncensored CD version out there?
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link
two days nonstop listening has me in agreement of "very good"
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link
they played us the uncensored version at the playback
kinda surprised that this album would be the one to hook in a badu sceptic like rtc!
it is very good though.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i guess i can see how i might've come across as badusceptic before but really it's nothing diehard or anything - i'm somewhat indifferent to new amerykah compared to most on here, but i fux ok with baduizm and stuff to a degree. this album seems to have a balance that particularly appeals to me though.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i think it's hilarious that there wasn't an uproar about the video until she released it? like, somehow all the people who saw her running around dallas naked weren't offended enough to make it news at that point?
― hipster puddy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
well it was probably a closed set w/ extras, not a guerilla shoot, y'know?
― j@ggerlovesmanydudes (some dude), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
every news report I've read has said it was a guerrilla shoot
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link
oh ok i hadn't read anything abt it
― j@ggerlovesmanydudes (some dude), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I've heard no permits, no actors, but who knows.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
If it was really as guerrilla as she says it was, I think there would be more reactions to her once she got butt-nekid.
― wakaflockapitusberry (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i imagine ppl had no idea who she was, & she got outta there quickly enough that the popo didnt catch on, so some folks were just like "lol some crazy naked lady in the park lol"
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link
also i definitely prefer this record to 4th world war but then i find the idea of referring to an album's unique aesthetic as 'advances' like its working in some linear pattern that this is not to be kinda annoying so
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Someone who preferred Ankh to War would think that.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 03:55 (fourteen years ago) link
< / tease >
Totally digging this album. Loved part 1 too, it's weird hearing this and thinking of them as companions, this certainly has a more "slender" aesthetic bandwidth (to be pretentious about it), i.e. more stripped down, more focused on sex, love and intimacy, but then there's still some sharp satirical digs in the lyrics. I kinda dig that strange text/manifesto that accompanies the album too.
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Thursday, 1 April 2010 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm happy with this album and enjoy it but I'm not in love with it.
― wakaflockapitusberry (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:04 (fourteen years ago) link
that's kinda where i'm at too, but it's growing on me
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:43 (fourteen years ago) link
the 'advances' thing just doesn't really make sense since hasn't the line always been that most of these albums were recorded during the same period before first was released?
― batwing rightshit cartoonist (some dude), Thursday, 1 April 2010 06:47 (fourteen years ago) link
not quite sure how sex love & intimacy add up to a narrower aesthetic bandwidth than underwater stovetops but ok
― r|t|c, Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Its highs aren't as high as its predecessor's, but I think it flows better as an album.
― jam master (jaymc), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I dunno, I get kind of bored during parts of it
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
this is where i'm at too. i like that it feels casual and not too labored-over though, and i'm digging get munny, gone baby, and incense a lot. window seat & agitation too, but i've heard window seat a lot and agitation is so short (although so is incense, and that one feels like it could go on way longer).
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 1 April 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
for an album where the flow initially seems so important, i get the feeling that i'll be cherrypicking favourites a lot more than listening to it ~as a work~ in the future (in terms of how it works as an album it reminds me more of worldwide underground than anything else: that had the feeling of a band jamming away with erykah wandering occasionally through to pick up and drop threads of songs, this is sparer but you get what i mean i think).
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^both those posts cataloguing my exact reactions
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd like to put in words for "20 Feet Tall" and "Out of My Mind, Just in Time" tho. I have a feeling those are joints I'll be chewing on for a while
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
looking at the track listing it's only "umm hmm", "love" and "incense" that strike me as remotely skippable, actually
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd subtract "Incense" and add "Fall in Love", but yeah
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"Love" is skippable; "Umm Hmm" is not.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, maybe those will be growers but the middle chunk (umm hmm through fall in love) blends together for me in a mush of dilla-ish drums and love lyrics. i still like it but i've been skipping to the last two tracks.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
This isn't an immediate "HOLY SHIT PAY ATTENTION TO ME" album in the vein of 4WW but I've noticed that when I start playing it, I always want to listen to the entire thing; I've had zero desire to cherrypick songs from it, whereas with 4WW I almost immediately zeroed in on "The Healer", "Cell", "Master Teacher" and "My People" and skipped over the other tracks.
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, that's my experience.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
there is some good spring time shit on here
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Pitchfork: Prince and Rick James seem risqué for a 10 year old...
That was my taste. My family had a very open relationship about music and art. Nothing was taboo and everything was up for discussion-- by the time I was 10, I was a genius. I take the same approach with my son now. He listens to King Crimson, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix.
okay what kind of puritanical nonsense is this
signed, a dude who first heard Prince at age 8
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Also Prince was kind of a big deal when Erykah was a kid in the early '80s! It would've been pretty hard to avoid him.
― jam master (jaymc), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
(OK, maybe in '81 he wasn't quite a superstar yet.)
― jam master (jaymc), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
"I Wanna Be Your Lover" was #1 on the R&B charts and just missed the Billboard top 10 in 1978 and "Let's Work" was a #1 club hit in 1980; he wasn't an ubiquitous superstar but it also wasn't like no one knew who he was, and if Badu's parents were already bumping Rick James, they were almost certainly bumping Prince.
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
that mid-section is kinda like a lot of the jams on WWU. I might feel like listening to them sometimes, but I don't have to listen to them, nawmean?
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
wwu hits way harder imo
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 1 April 2010 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
and if Badu's parents were already bumping Rick James, they were almost certainly bumping Prince.
Yeah -- they even toured together in 1980.
signed, a dude whose first 45 was "Let's Go Crazy."
― Andy K, Thursday, 1 April 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Don't be silly. If she was listening to the albums and not just the singles then, yeah, who wouldn't consider LPs like "Dirty Mind" or "Controversy" to be risque, especially by 1981 standards? I doubt there were lots of pre-teens singing along to "Sexuality?" "Jack U Off" back then. I mean, Prince became PMRC persona non grata long after the peak of his freakiness.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I doubt there were lots of pre-teens singing along to "Sexuality?"
There was at least one in my home growing up. I had no real idea of what the lyrics meant wrt to sex because it just was not on my radar/in my worldview; songs like "Ronnie Talk To Russia" and "Annie Christian" made a lot more sense to me at the time. (I never played "Jack U Off" because I knew it was dirty and I was convinced my parents would stop letting me play the album if I played it within earshot of them.)
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"Annie Christian" still doesn't make sense to me
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't say it actually MADE sense, just that it made MORE sense than "Sexuality"
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Prince's rant at the end of that one is kind of on the o_O side anyway
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
"love" : me :: "window seat" : everybody else
Saddened to hear everyone is skipping the hardest and best track on the album.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
I haven't skipped it -- I listened to it hard. Now I skip it.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Your ears went flaccid.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
The first casualties of living in the new amerykah.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Just because:
The CellSoldierLoveThe HealerMaster TeacherOut My Mind, Just In TimeMy PeopleGone Baby, Don't Be LongThat HumpTwinkle20 Feet TallHoneyAgitationTurn Me Away (Get MuNNY)Jump Up in the Air (Stay There)Window SeatTelephoneMeYou Loving MeFall in Love (Your Funeral)Amerykah PromiseIncenseUmm Hmm
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Meh, switch "Incense" and "Umm Hmm" around.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
hmmm, wonder what happened to the highlighted tracks
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
"Loretta Brown" is surely slated for volume three. Probably some of the others too, and (finally) "Annie."
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
wait... there is a part 3?
!!!
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Can never keep track of whether the Lowdown Loretta Brown album is going to be part three or is just unrelated.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
she says in new york magazine that maybe pt iii's coming together right now. the next one was going to be the loretta brown soul production one i believe. some playback reviews said that it was mostly in the can but i can't imagine hearing that and assuming that it'll be out real soon.
― egregious apostrophising (schlump), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Not when Ankh was originally "supposed to" be released in July 2008.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
haha I already wrote in the SOTT book about how I used to run around in my Superman Underoos pretending I was on the cover of Dirty Mind when I was six.
― Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I used to wear old hose as detachable sleeves and pretend I was Ruth Pointer.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Unrelated, from what she said at the listening party.
― Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Good. Always preferred diptychs to trilogies.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Speaks volumes that the bottom 10-11 songs on this list would still make a damn good album.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 1 April 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
backwards "Window Seat" vid http://www.erykahbadu.com/
― british is happening (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost yep, speaks two volumes, in fact
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link
"I don't consider myself the Queen of Neo-Soul. I don't even know what neo-soul is. I'll be the Queen of Neo-Funk, though."
<3
― k$h (The Reverend), Friday, 2 April 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.rap-up.com/2010/04/01/mother-claims-child-was-traumatized-by-erykah-badu-video/
― Andy K, Friday, 2 April 2010 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Flash forward 40 years: Woman, once a child, grateful to be able to tell her grandchildren about seeing Erykah Badu naked
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 2 April 2010 02:26 (fourteen years ago) link
lord knows I would be
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 2 April 2010 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
so last night it was warm out and i was driving around, and i started with 'love' and 'fall in love' and was truly feelin' it. i like the odd phrase length in 'fall in love', it's a nice spin on the sample.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 2 April 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link
uh wait are you gay
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 April 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Can I just Erykah Badu POX
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 2 April 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost I thought Ruth Pointer was a really beautiful man.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 2 April 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-beat/Badu-May-Face-Charges-After-All-89799852.html
― 2 guys 1 jag (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 April 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
this whole situation has made me realize that badu is a lot more popular than I thought at this point lol
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 2 April 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean, bill o'reilly was talking about it the other day
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 2 April 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
haha seriously - hope nothing happens to her tho :(
― k3vin k., Friday, 2 April 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
He no doubt mentioned her cuz she was a black woman in trouble.
― filling the medicare donut hole with the semen of liberal (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 April 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I like the weird voting thing to the side of the story.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 April 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I think this is the girl who tattled: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000296696623
― booches (Tape Store), Saturday, 3 April 2010 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link
/creepy
― booches (Tape Store), Saturday, 3 April 2010 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link
"it was a publicity stunt, although a well timed one because of the album's release"
well it is a video for the album u idiot
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Saturday, 3 April 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the last quarter i think of this album is my jams
― samosa gibreel, Sunday, 4 April 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know that i've ever heard another piece of music so entirely geared towards evoking pleasure as this album.
― samosa gibreel, Tuesday, 6 April 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link
oh come on. I wouldn't even say that about any of her albums. 2 many srs moments.
― handle your b I (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link
but it's all so tasty and lush
― samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:14 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe i should've said geared towards pleasuring me. i love how, even though she's obviously pared down the weirdo shit, the warbly bloops and bleeps and barely audible samples are still there, just buried a little deeper.
― samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 01:19 (fourteen years ago) link
lol @ the biggie "burler alarm starts ringing" quotinglol @ the Enemy Mine sample
this album is just about nothing but great "deep cuts"
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
also lol @ "chopped and screwed for you"
― samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film)
Erykah Badu is depicted as one of the movies characters on her album cover "New Amerykah, Part 2: Return of the Anhk"
is this wiki-vandalism or am i missing something..
― Tom doesn't sleep.. Tom Waits. (Future_Perfect), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link
well this one makes more sense
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/80469430.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1270688323&Signature=YFh9tkvDquRU3g4Sgmc3G9XwG3w%3D
and nsfw: http://kaseydriscoll.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/a-holy-mountain-pdvd_000.jpg
― Tom doesn't sleep.. Tom Waits. (Future_Perfect), Thursday, 8 April 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link
this record is so much more inviting than pt 1. i've been listening to it daily.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
this album is a little boring tbh :(
i want to believe
― estela artois (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
it got less boring for me
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
whenever someone says something is boring, i read it as "i have ADD"
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
well
― justin PeeBeR (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
dude did review 1000+ albums last year
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 12 April 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
btw after reading that studio article that mentioned how records vocals in the control room w/out headphones, i realized you can hear it really obviously at the end of 'the cell'
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
holy mountain so rad
― etrian odysseus (cozen), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, April 12, 2010 1:25 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark
definitely it gets less boring
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 12 April 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, the album is great of course but there are 3-4 tracks that I skip ("get munny," "fall in love (your funeral)" "incense," and sometimes "umm hmmm"), which seems like a lot... "get munny" and "fall in love (your funeral)" seem kind of pointless to me
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
get munny is top 3 for me easy
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe because I love the OG sylvia striplin song, so hearing badu's version is like "um...ok?" total filler, and not even in a good way like "my people" off of 4WW
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
get munny is sesame street funk at its finest imo
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i'm the same way as Brainwasher w/ those 2 songs, the overly familiar samples make 'em feel like filler that just comes and goes imo
― some dude, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
also feel a lot less jazzed about "Agitation" after learning it's another beatjack, rockism or whatever be damned
― some dude, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
get munny is one of those tracks it'd be cool to hear her bust out unexpectedly at a show, but on an album, yeah, it seems pointless. the striplin version is better.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't realize how much of a beatjack get munny is! at least they replayed it.
'agitation' doesn't bother me, since her vocal melodies for it are totally new.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"agitation" is a sample? damn that is kind of disappointing... I dunno, when it comes to artists like Badu and the whole soulquarian movement I feel a certain type of way when I hear about their use of samples. Like, when I found out about all of the samples/interpolations on Voodoo... it's probably because they present themselves as "bringing back that real authentic musicianship" or what have you..
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"agitation" is the shit tho, should be longer
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, the album is great of course but there are 3-4 tracks that I skip
An album is not "great" if you skip three or four tracks, or maybe your scale is different than mine.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
especially when the album's twelve cuts long.
well, I think the other tracks make up for the ones that I skip... "out my mind, just in time" may be my favorite badu song ever.
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
What about when a two-volume album with 23 cuts has only four or five skips? That's Key of Life territory there.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
how many songs are sample-based on voodoo, like two?
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha -- I skip more than five tracks on Key of Life.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_of_life
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
?estlove broke it down on okp a while back, I think "spanish joint" and "send it on" are interpolations, "devil's pie" is a sample, and some others.. supposedly most of the album is just replayed dilla beats or something like that.
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
"feel like makin' love" is a cover
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, but it's a totally different take on the song, much different from the roberta flack version... and the marlena shaw version.
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
huh, i never heard that. trying to re-create his feel via moving shit around in pro tools, sure. but even if they were trying to recreate beats that dilla cut up from other soul albums, i don't see how that's much different from the normal process of listening to those records and then writing tunes in the style. the melodies on voodoo are mostly original and the sound of the record as a whole is unique.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah definitley, I'm not hating on Voodoo at all (one of my all-time favorite albums), I'm just saying that when I first found out I was a little disappointed.
― The Brainwasher, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I can't help you.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
And I knew you'd say that, too.
Return of the Ankh > Key of Life.
Sorry all.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
My basic outlook to Soulquarians and samping is "who cares"? I don't envy you who have hangups over this at all.
xp loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
― he's a radric mane (The Reverend), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
like, that is too audacious to even be called a challenging opinion
― Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean I get that Key of Life isn't this all killer-no filler bomb, but it's highs are like the empire state building to compared to Ankh's portaloo.
Sure he was joking though heh
― Davek (davek_00), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
typo *its, gah
100% certain ilxor is not joking, which is fine in and of itself, but opinions like that tend to go over better when they are not delivered in a rhetorical style that implies an unwritten "now taste my ass"
― Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I"m not quite sure I trust the opinion of someone who thinks this is better than Part 1 or Mama's Gun, let alone Songs in the Key of Life.
― he's a radric mane (The Reverend), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
now i taste ass
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Not joking... but I'm not saying it as some kind of objective quality judgment for all time's sake, just my own preference. I've heard Key of Life a number of times, it's dandy, sure, but I know which I'd rather have with me on a desert island.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 12 April 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
delivered in a rhetorical style that implies an unwritten "now taste my ass"
you are high 24/7, right
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 12 April 2010 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
hi dere, tell me how my ass taste
― J0rdan S., Monday, 12 April 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
tastin ass takin names
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Monday, 12 April 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Return of the Ankh could stand to taste like ass a little bit more than it does tbh.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 12 April 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i think kind of in the same way that 'out of my mind, just in time' is more than the sum of its individual parts - perhaps even just by virtue of the fact that it is a constructed suite, that extra element of craft alone - so you could argue that stuff like 'get munny' and 'fall in love' play fine roles in the dialogue of the album as a whole. (ie like those were the tracks i had in mind in particular when i said above i thought it was all gonna be somewhat half-assed, but in context i love them now.)
― r|t|c, Monday, 12 April 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
It's still no "Green Eyes."
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 April 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes it is.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Or as close as matters.
We'll always disagree on the hermeneutics of long-form blacksong, I see.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link
rtc otm, "get munny" to me is not so much a song as a hiccuppy, loose-ended funk parade that just strolls through the middle of the album.
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Return of the Ass (Taste)
― original bgm, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
New AmErytastemyass
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ would have paid for those bootlegs.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Mama's Ass.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm just now listening to Return of the Ankh on YouTube...I've lost my job lately and just don't have the $$$ to spend on CDs...and I refuse to d/l another Badu album...I don't care how high they're hitting on the Billboard 200, it just doesn't seem right...
anyways, this album kind of surprises me, I thought it wz going to be a lot more like Mama's Gun, but it's different...funkier as opposed to MG's smoldering (nu)soul...haven't heard WWU; is it similar to that album?...
I really like it so far.
― forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm loving umm hmm actually, tho all this talk about samples makes me feel a little guilty about it -gulp!-
― forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
someone please explain to me why it's okay for, say, every other R&B/soul singer under the sun to sing over samples but when Erykah Badu does it, ppl start rending their garments
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
because the stuff without obvious samples feels so original and homemade i guess? tbh most modern R&B doesn't have a lot of samples anymore anyway, and when it does it's more like a 2 bar loop with hard drums, hip hop-style, than the kind of vamping she's doing, but yeah we might be getting into a silly double standard here.
― the ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (some dude), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
if anything "Get Munny" has to get past a wall of "this just reminds me of that Biggie song and you're not adding that much to it" resistance from me because of Ashanti type jacks.
― the ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (some dude), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
because people hold Erykah to a higher standard and regard her as an artiste? cause she seems like one of the few RnBers capable of--and willing to--creating something fresh and new?
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
it's 2010 this argument is retarded i'm pretty sure the people who are bothered by badu's use of samples are aware of how silly they're being and will just will themselves into getting over it
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
This self-integration into her own favorite tunes has been going on since the Live disc. Not sure why it would be treated as anything new here.
+ she sampled Wings and jacked David Sancious. Not exactly business as usual move.
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, "umm hmm" is great!
― original bgm, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
I gotta be honest though...this album is not quite as good as Mama's gun or 4WW...I love that it's funkier, but Out My Mind Just In Time clinches it... it kinda pales in comparison to Green Eyes...I still love you Erykah!!!
― forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i never feel like listening to 'out my mind', it's nice but kinda boring. i'll give it some more shots but i was hoping for more since i've really liked what i've heard from georgia ann muldrow, beat-wise.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
So weird. It's one of the two tracks on the album I can't skip over when listening on random.
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
(The other being "Love," obv.)
― who's always getting head from the commissioner (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i still like the album though...half awesome + half okay = very good. Just like everybody's been saying...
― forgotten funk-uncle (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
tell you what would be a great compilation - one of all the original songs badu's sampled
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 24 April 2010 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link
ayooooooooooooooooooo
― it ain't trickin if yo gotti (The Reverend), Saturday, 24 April 2010 09:57 (fourteen years ago) link
yes
wow this album is a dissapointment. so half hearted. sounds like shes barely bothered. nice grooves but NO songs. not even the green eyes-ish closer is that good. this is like an album of outtakes. is she trying to get out of her contract or something? cos this seems like one of those albums.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link
theres some nice moments, some cool lines here and there, some nice melodies, but she sounds like she can barely be arsed to get through this.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.outmymindjustintimetour.com/
No Mpls. date and the Chicago ones don't work for me! :( :( :(
― will live out his days in gloomy batchelorhood (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Definitely going to one of the Chicago shows!!!! So excited.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
No Austin date, either, sadly.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Badu/N*E*R*D/Monae sounds like an awesome show, but no way I'm paying that much money.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
No MTL, Toronto or any East Coast of Canada shows. New York or Boston are my best (not good at all) options.
― Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
oh fucking awesome yay.. w/janelle monae too!!
― hobbes, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh $70 for a good seat, n/m
― hobbes, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm 20 feet tall.
― moderator requiem forum (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I think "Turn Me Away" is so bubbly and happy that it will be one of those songs that can never NOT put me in a good mood.
― moderator requiem forum (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
back and forth like lightning hopkins
― went ham in a bad way (stevie), Friday, 7 May 2010 07:27 (thirteen years ago) link
"Love" is growing on me a lot
― jagger edge (The Reverend), Monday, 10 May 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll just toss this in herehttp://thequietus.com/articles/04143-twenty-thoughts-about-love-erykah-badu-s-new-amerykah-part-twoand wait for the whingeing (too long/where's the review? etc)!
― Neil Kulkarni, Monday, 10 May 2010 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link
‘This Ain't A Love Song’? Too fucking right. You cunts couldn't write a love song. It's too serious for you.
what did bon jovi ever do to you?!
― Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Monday, 10 May 2010 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I was referring to Scouting For Girls. On a sidetrack - Bon Jovi's Greatest Hits was the only CD (apart from The Best Of Sting) that my local poolhall used to play so consequently in the 2 years where I pretty much did nothing else with my time I picked up a fascination, then fatigue, then finally detestation of The Jovi. A process that happened alot quicker with Sting i might add.
― Neil Kulkarni, Monday, 10 May 2010 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Really want to go to the Houston Badu/Monae show, but $95 = :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 10 May 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll be the one backstage
!!!!
― i don't care if big daddy kane signed your mommas tits (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link
que?
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
(cause munny i want you bad la lalala lala)
― i don't care if big daddy kane signed your mommas tits (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link
just an interesting line I never caught before
― i don't care if big daddy kane signed your mommas tits (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
NY Times feature today:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/arts/music/09badu.html?ref=music
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Baduizm
^ black metal band name up for grabs
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
"20 Feet Tall" is such an inspiring song imo.
― fuck being hard, suburbs are complicated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Anytime I have obstacles in front of me now, I got to be like "Rev, you are 20 feet tall. Step over that shit!"
― fuck being hard, suburbs are complicated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
You're 20 feet tall? O_O
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link
metaphorically
― fuck being hard, suburbs are complicated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
"20 Ft Tall" and Damian Marley/Nas's "Strong Will Continue" are my big inspirational songs this year.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i love "20 feet tall" but "jump up in the air" is my go-get-em inspirational-motivational erykah track of choice this year.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
haha me too. i made myself an inspiraysh mix and put jump up in the air on it.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
anyone see her in new york on monday? was in town but could not get tix...
― Worth waiting for the fannypunch at 4.02 (stevie), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
No, but I saw her in Chicago last week, it was an amazing show.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
benji b played this at sónar and i was like "omfg i did not know there was a house remix of 20ft tall!!!!!" and when i got back yesterday one of the first things i did was go a-hunting for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQb22pPX_U
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 21 June 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
that's great!
― Worth waiting for the fannypunch at 4.02 (stevie), Monday, 21 June 2010 08:34 (thirteen years ago) link
just got a report of her singing karaoke at a bar in town tonight! :O
― The Reverend, Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link
apparently they let her do 5-10 songs in a row then she bounced
― The Reverend, Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link
what's up with portland man
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link
first random chappelle stand up now random badu karaoke
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think the chappelle standup actually happened?? I seem to recall that it was dismissed as a rumor that got out of hand.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:53 (thirteen years ago) link
oh
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link
cursory google search confirms that it did take place but no one could hear a thing he said
― hell hath no furry (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 3 July 2010 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link
COME BACK COME BACK BABY COME BACK
― fuque santa cruz (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i want u be near me
― otmato (The Reverend), Thursday, 8 July 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
hrrm did "jump up in the air (stay there)" ever emerge in 320 kbps? or, like, better than the 160 i have
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link
"gone baby, don't be long" is the one of this album, aside from "window seat"
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
also this album sounds perfect -- sunday morning!!
this album is nice to listen to (yeah jordan sunday morning seems like the perfect time) but it just feels so damn inconsequential to me; every song feels like an interlude. they're nice interludes, but i think i was wanting something more in the pt. 1 vein
― k3vin k., Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
i think if you make something as epic as pt. 1, the best direction is to go in the one she went in
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
A very good album, and you named the two best songs (I'd include "Umm Hmm," which became essential summer listening)
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
it's really a beautiful thing
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes. Really have started coming around on how this piece complements the first one.
Plus, I've been listening to it at least once a week, now, for what ... six months?
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I do realize I've probably given "Gone Baby" a pass because I've waited years for someone to realize how Wings' "Arrow Through Me" was ripe for sampling.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
The groove is soooo deep.
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
According to iTunes:
Most played: "Love"Least played: "Incense"
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I just tried something: dropping "Gone Baby" after Van Helden's "U Don't Know Me."
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
:)
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 August 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i do love this album but i'm not sure it's top ten material for me
― this isn't STRAWBERRY 0_o it's RAWBERRY (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 August 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
naw, it ain't
― d4n, d4n, d4n (yaosah, yaosah, yaosah) (The Reverend), Monday, 23 August 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, not top 10 of all time, no. The first one was; not this one.
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Monday, 23 August 2010 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link
er, i meant top ten of the year.
― this isn't STRAWBERRY 0_o it's RAWBERRY (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 August 2010 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link
album works best if you treat it as mostly throwaway leftover/fun/not totally finished sessions from the last album. ie inconsequential as someone said upthread. this is prob the most unessential album shes released.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 23 August 2010 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i've come back to it a lot this year. "out my mind, just in time" is one of the best things she's ever done.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 23 August 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah thats a great one, but about 75%-85% of it just doesnt reward all the times ive returned to it. theres not enough there. even out my mind, just in time sounds kind of like a half hearted return to green eyes territory. i mean, its still good, but not as good as GE. its the type of album thats too easy for her.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 23 August 2010 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think i'd use the word half-hearted to describe any of this album, the hooks may meander or drift at times but there's a lot of feeling in it.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 23 August 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i think its being given more credit than is perhaps deserved because of who made it. or maybe i should replace half hearted with 'knackered'. she just sounds like her mind is somewhere else. which isnt in itself a particularly bad quality to have as a vocalist. cos yeah, there is feeling in it but theres not much craft. its just an album of sketches. reminds me a lot of princes from the vault album that he gave in to close his warners deal.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 23 August 2010 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link
this is prob the most unessential album shes released.
http://jensfilipsson.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/erykah-badu-live.jpg
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Monday, 23 August 2010 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, August 23, 2010 5:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is so so wrong & umbearably titchy/corny of you
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder if it's just one of those records that's slightly confused by the expectations. i remember seeing in the mood for love having only seen chungking express, and i was just disappointed that it wasn't more offbeat fun, you know? there's so much preaching and communion in part one that part two must seem slight on account of its deficiency of these things. but it's a different record. it's full of jams, not songs. i like bopping around with fall in love on my headphones as much as i liked listening to me on the last one, but they're different kinds of albums. i could only see the songs as slight if you think they're attempting to be part-one-esque narrative songs rather than the slinky jams it seems she was shooting for.
― schlump, Monday, 23 August 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, the precedent for this one isn't, as advertised, Mama's Gun but instead Worldwide Underground.
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Sonically this sounds closest to Mama's Gun, but I just don't think the songwriting and singing are as sharp on this one.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost - thanks for setting me straight deej.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link
otm.
― (I'm in the "I'd rather have come coffee" camp) (stevie), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Worldwide Underground isn't bad just irrelevant, and this one isn't irrelevant at all.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
This is a B+ record.
worldwide underground isn't 'irrelevant', though i don't really understand how you measure relevancy or indeed what use it is
― (I'm in the "I'd rather have come coffee" camp) (stevie), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait, who was calling WU bad? Certainly no one whose opinions on Badu I give a shit about.
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Of course, Badu : Me :: Wagner : Nietzsche
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
It floats out of time and bears no relation to the records bookending it (which might be an attraction too). Also, it's the only album whose songs I don't care for at all, so even on its own terms it doesn't grab me.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
haha <3 Eric H
― horseshoe, Monday, 23 August 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
worldwide underground has danger!!!!!! and i want you!!!!!!!!
Plus "Back in the Day" is maybe her most inviting, most comfortable jam ever.
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
totally
― horseshoe, Monday, 23 August 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ + !!!!!!!
― schlump, Monday, 23 August 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, "Danger" is fine.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i want you is masterful
― (I'm in the "I'd rather have come coffee" camp) (stevie), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
so when you say it is 'irrelevant' what you mean is 'i don't like it'?
there is feeling in it but theres not much craft.
this is otm
― d4n, d4n, d4n (yaosah, yaosah, yaosah) (The Reverend), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
It floats out of time and bears no relation to the records bookending it
Not at all. Obv the songwriting isn't as sharp as Mama's Gun or 4th World War, but it's more a record about sounds than anything and a lot of the sonic advancements carry over to 4WW.
― d4n, d4n, d4n (yaosah, yaosah, yaosah) (The Reverend), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
OK, you guys won me over. I'll spin it again when I get home. It's really been years.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
is 'hollywood' on the us version or was it a euro bonus track? because that is a jam too.
― (I'm in the "I'd rather have come coffee" camp) (stevie), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, don't get me wrong, it IS her weakest album of the '00s ones. But so what, et al?
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
this is otm, i totally hear it as WU pt 2 (and i love WU unconditionally).
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's easy to think of worldwide underground as, maybe not "irrelevant", but certainly a "mere" curio in the badu canon, not because of its quality but because of its relatively low-key release and reception, particularly her insistence that it wasn't an album, but an ep. an ep with 11 tracks that was album length. ok then erykah.
i fux with WU unconditionally, fwiw, and agree that no album with "danger" and "i want you" on it can ever be irrelevant. to an extent the same.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
When all's said and done, the only Badu album I don't really spin much these days is the first one.
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
and even if a lot of return of the ankh consists of straight-up lifted samples and meandering jams, the same is true with it containing "window seat", "gone baby, don't be long" and "out my mind, just in time" - it's a beautifully paced and sequenced work that's absolutely gorgeous sounding, and almost all of it moves me on some level...and it feels like the right album for her to have made at this point in her career. so while it's not "OMG ALBUM OF DECADE" like 4th world war, it's still exactly what i wanted and almost totally satisfying - i wouldn't play god with it, in other words, apart from making her release the 320 of "jump up in the air (stay there)" in some form.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 23 August 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
spun this last night after wondering whether i had missed anything. yeah it is like part two of worldwide underground. badu seems to make one collection of songs that may or may not fit together (WWUG, baduizm) then come up with one thats really focused/mulled over/conceptualised (mamas gun, nu amerykah). she seems to have done this pretty much for all her career. so maybe the next one will feel more vital and gestated. i dont care so much about the samples, just cos even though theoretically i wd prefer someone like badu didnt do so many obv steals, shes made too many great songs of her own using samples/replays (didnt cha know, certainly, etc) for me to complain about it. the thing about this album is just that while it def isnt parody or anything, its just badu doing exactly what youd expect from badu, almost like as close as shes going to get to a 'safe' album, for her anyway. so windowseat is basically like badu in precis. texturally and sonically theres plenty to love on this - obv yeah it is gorgeous... vocally, her phrasing and melodic sense is still sublime, but lyrically and songwriting wise, she doesnt seem to have really focused much or tried very hard - it all feels like a series of first drafts. sometimes thats cool, its nice to sometimes just hear an artist just being totally relaxed, but it means the material is really 'slight' and doesnt reward my returns to it. its a record that doesnt have much invested in it. thats what gives it its casual, nice and easy 'just an average day at the studio' feel, but i would have liked more, and i think theres scope in this material for her to do more with it. in an odd way, i think the fact it IS so gorgeous sonically (though sorry i expect more than just glorious warmth from badu) is what undoes it partially. hearing all the songs/sketches/whatever recorded in such amazing fidelity just seems to highlight that the material isnt as rich as the sonics, whereas if it was all sounded like a series of home demos, it would probably not matter as much. id just think of it as her stopgap/rough draft record. id love to hear her do a record like that actually.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 07:22 (thirteen years ago) link
nu amerykah pt 2 may not be as "conceptual" or interesting production-wise, but it has better melodies than pt 1 imo.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not sure i agree w that
― d4n, d4n, d4n (yaosah, yaosah, yaosah) (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Biggest problem with Nu Amerykah pt.2 is that it's...Nu Amerykah pt. 2. There's no way it could stand with pt. 1, which is one of the decade's great album, prolley one of the greatest albums of pop music. She uses the same methodology as she did in pt. 1, but gets rid of all the apocalypticism.
I will say, however, that there is a genuine lazy streak throughout the album that is quite frustrating--the straight up track-jacks, the way that Lost My Mind is Green Eyes warmed over...but E. has already given us two of the greeatest albums of this last decade; I can't stay mad at her too long.
― ranked #12 amongst 'false metallers' (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
prolley one of the greatest albums of pop music
whoa
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
no disagreement on my part
― d4n, d4n, d4n (yaosah, yaosah, yaosah) (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
That "Green Eyes" is a masterpiece does not automatically mean that "Out My Mind" is not also pretty damned great.
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
But, yeah, there is a little bit of a lazy streak running throughout the album. Only I'd say "lackadaisical" instead of "lazy."
― 2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
dont get everyone riding so hard for amerykah pt 1 over pt 2 -- i mean i do to the degree that its a DIFFICULT RECORD (zzz) but yeesh
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
all i know is i'm pretty sure i've never made it through pt 1 once in one listen, but i've listened to all of pt 2 a bunch of times. admittedly, i am very lazy.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
pt 1 speaks to me in a personal way, pt 2 doesn't. simple as that
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:12 PM (3 hours ago)
get ouuuuta here with this faux-naive bs, you're better than this - it's not "difficult" it just "has songs"
― max skim (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
pt 2 doesn't have 'songs' now? that's as bs as suggesting pt 1 is the 'difficult' record
― my own views are highly progressive (stevie), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Pt. 1 is the white record, Pt. 2 is the black one.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm white btw
― max skim (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:02 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
LOL
― ranked #12 amongst 'false metallers' (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:02 PM Suggest Ban PermalinkBookmark
i realize you state this at least partly in jest, but you have no idea how fucking enraged this statement makes me.
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link
almost just said "fuck you" and left it at that tbh
thought he was talking about Beatles v Metallica tbh
― this isn't STRAWBERRY 0_o it's RAWBERRY (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link
It wasn't even "partly in jest" -- it's totally in jest.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
'white' & 'black' are totally the wrong words to describe the differences between the two records but there are totally ideological differences in preferring one over the other imo ... the 1st one is the public enemy record, the 2nd one is the sade record
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
One is the "Spike Lee" album, the other is the "Bill Cosby" album
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure most everyone itt loves both pe and sade
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure most people not 100% behind this record were into her previous 'sade' moments too
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
also pretty sure most people itt who are not 100% into this record are like... 85% into this record
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
65%-75% with reservations
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm definitely more into this record after having just endured a wobbly tenor sing "Master Blaster" at the karaoke event next door.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
and most like both records. i think there are difft value systems at work in preferring one over the other
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
sure. but why is one inherently more valid than the other?
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
theyre not. id say that one is a lil more critic friendly, tho
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
which matters why?
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
bcuz it impacts how ppl talk about the relative values they bring to bear on each record & it helps to interrogate not just what ppl think but why they think that way
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i completely disagree that any preference between these two particular albums is "ideological" - i know where deej is coming from w/r/t the value systems at play, but there are plenty of other reasons to prefer one over the other.
i think they complement each other just about perfectly, as they're meant to.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
nah i mean basically all judgments are results of value systems. or are your tastes entirely random? might explain some things
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
nah i mean basically all judgments are results of value systems
only if you apply the same value systems to all judgments you make. it doesn't follow that preferring the "political"/experimental side of the new amerykah albums over the "personal"/familiar one that you necessarily privilege political and experimental art over personal and familiar art, because those things aren't ever good or bad in themselves, they're just neutral descriptions.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
only if you apply the same value systems to all judgments you make.
theres no way out of this dude
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
lex otm
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
it doesn't follow that preferring the "political"/experimental side of the new amerykah albums over the "personal"/familiar one that you necessarily privilege political and experimental art over personal and familiar art, because those things aren't ever good or bad in themselves, they're just neutral descriptions.obv this is true tho -- that doesnt mean that the recognition that these are in fact value systems interacting shouldn't be a part of the discussion
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
deej, are your reactions to art always consistent? cause if so that makes you quite unique among human beings.
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
how on earth is that what im talking about
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont even understand what the question means -- my 'reactions' to 'art' 'consistent'? they are consistently mine certainly, & the values we bring to bear are our own only -- im just talking about the act of openly acknowledging those values
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
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― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i would say a better example of a preference based on "ideology" would be someone who doesn't particular rate or pay attention to any badu album except pt1 - someone who wasn't interested in her until she made a political record, say, and who's disappointed that pt2 isn't as ~experimental~ or whatever. which i don't think anyone here is.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
of course there are different value systems at play, but there is very little, if any, music within pt. 1's system that i prefer to it, whereas there is a fair amount within pt. 2's system that i do prefer. that doesn't mean i inherently prefer one value system to the other, even if i think this whole line of argument is more or less bunk.
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
you cant help but apply your own values to every critical argument you make. how do you apply someone elses?
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:12 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
youre not understanding 'value system' -- thats the broad biases/opinions/values/morals that the critic brings to bear; the piece of art has no 'value system' of its own, just what we bring to it
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
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whoever said anything about that?
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
"only if you apply the same value systems to all judgments you make."
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
from a critics perspective what values are their other than your own
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
you can hold different (and inconsistent) values yourself, which is what i assume lex meant by that
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
not if yr trying to make a convincing argument; if u hold two opposing ideas that in order to convince anyone u have to come up with an explanation for why one system works in one situation and another doesnt
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
especially in a case like this, when the two value systems aren't even opposed to each other or mutually exclusive
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
your assuming im making some argument im not if there as a 'situation like this'
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i never claimed there was something wrong with liking pt. 1 yeesh
apparently you will only be happy if i admit i always prefer political/difficult music to that which does not fit those descriptions but it might ~blow your mind~ to find out i prefer nina sky to rage against the machine or hell, even al green to sly stone
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
all i said is that i think its worthwhile for discussion to observe the kinds of critical biases that work to elevate part 1 at the expense of part 2, its not at all about questioning the lex's RIGHT AND TRUE reasons for preferring pt 1 that evade typical ITS AN AGGRESSIVE DIFFICULT POLITICAL RECORD media hype but to observe why critics tend to line up IN GENERAL & IN LARGER NUMBERS on one side rather than the other. i could prefer pt 1 (i dont) & still make this argument
defensive posters are defensive
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you're reading so much shit into what im saying that im not actually saying
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
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good god, deej
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
dude -- u seriously think im telling you that i think you always prefer 'political / difficult music'?? reread this thread & tell me where i accused you of anything
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe if you want to have that argument in general, this thread isn't the best place for it? it's a worthwhile topic but i don't think it's going to get anywhere here.
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
but my point was that in discussing the record i think its an important concept to be aware of
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
being self-aware of that kind of thing is kind of what ilx is all about at its best
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm with deej here, i think there are elements of pt 2 that are better executed than on part 1 (melodies, clarity, etc.), but i don't think it's particularly shocking statement to say that the album that's more formally ambitious and artier is going to get more critical attention. and this isn't to say that anyone who likes pt 1 better is wrong or likes it for the wrong reasons.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
come to think of it, arguing about that as the main point of a thread would be real obnoxious, making it as a contextual argument when discussing a record to which it applies is useful, unless dudes get unneccessarily butthurt abt it
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i will say this, you characterize pt. 2 as more "personal", and while it may or may not be more personal to erykah (i'm sure she poured as much of herself into pt. 1, but being that i'm not erykah badu, i can't exactly say which is more personal to her) but pt. 1 is sure as hell more personal to me, which is to say i more directly identify with it and feel it says more about myself than pretty much any album i've heard
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not butthurt, just kind of annoyed
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
but keep up w/ the ad homs
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
New board description.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
when i called pt2 "personal" - scare quotes intentional as it's totally reductive shorthand - it was more going with erykah's own left brain/right brain distinction between the two
i've actually brought up the inevitability of an album w/pt1's qualities getting more critical praise than an album w/pt2's qualities elsewhere on ilx, but i think a more appropriate comparison might be between pt 1 and mama's gun, which i think of as a monumental work on or near pt1's level, but which got a fraction of the critical luv.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
but i think a more appropriate comparison might be between pt 1 and mama's gun, which i think of as a monumental work on or near pt1's level, but which got a fraction of the critical luv.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:39 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
thats just not accurate
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
callin u butthurt is not ad hom, im not tying yr butthurt state to the quality of your argument
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
& i havent had any arguments about REV at all itt! thats the problem w your argument, it seems to be assuming im saying all this personal stuff that im not.
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
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that's laughable. argue that your direct attacks and general arguments are unconnected all you want, but that doesn't mean the former doesn't weaken the latter.
and yeah, mama's gun is brilliant, but it certainly got its fair share of adulation both at the time and now
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
im calling u butthurt to troll you, not to suggest that yr argument is not legitimate bcuz of your butthurtedness -- look up 'ad hominem'
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
yr getting butthurt for no reason -- u keep assuming i was making personal attacks on you & yr opinions on these records. so i said you were butthurt for no reason, which you then argued was a continued personal attack
http://api.ning.com/files/dkqsBrTDVZKY2*2OkzJvHn4bIcfPWvqDCxw8IxgysFruGKwM1jB-hxhHaMBVOqBYu18bIMWpnARKZvsm3kv*qrhyn1hGtzls/MobiusStrip.jpg
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry i forgot intentional trolling is conducive to quality discussion, but if you're going to admit to that, i'm just going to call a dnftt and say goodday.
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
now im convinced youre trolling
― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
deej be kinda jabbing the finger here but given some of the moronic stuff said before re "half-assed" and "no songs" or whatever it's fair & reasonable game imo
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
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i never said either of those things so ¯\(°_o)/¯
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
hey mr butthurt did i even mention you
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
ha
― king boy swag (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
wtf is going on here? When did this turn into a Kant discussion?
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
New Amerykant
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 August 2010 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
there are things I like about pt. 2: there's a lot of respect to be gained by repping for the hopeless--the pornstars, thugs, and prescription pill addicts--but the fact that she's also willing to identify (at least somewhat) with the gold-digger in "Turn Me Away" and the two-timing girlfriend in "You Loving Me"--I don't really hear a lot of condemnation in either of those tracks--there's something kind of special about that...
― ranked #12 amongst 'false metallers' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
haha you may not hear the condemnation but it's there, when i asked her about "turn me away" she was pretty clear on that. i guess that's why she sings it in that mocking girlish voice
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
oh well
― ranked #12 amongst 'false metallers' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
been listening to na pt 2 a lot lately
― straight outta furnace (The Reverend), Monday, 18 October 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
been never stopped listening to it lately
― gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Monday, 18 October 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
oh uh-oh, dropped your knotscooped it up, put it in my sock
― straight outta furnace (The Reverend), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Erykah_Badu_FEP.jpg
― straight outta furnace (The Reverend), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
now that is a picture
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link
was just listening to this again this morning. i actually think i like it better than p.1
― Mordy, Monday, 18 October 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Fuck Jill Scott. She's the smiling, fat black lady that sings about love and non threatening things. She's exactly the same bullshit kind of black artist the white american music honchos want you to listen to. Thats why she's embraced by the industry. Its called 'The Mammy Syndrome' and its exactly what Miles hated about Satchmo. Erykah is strong, funky and has an actually message within her lyrics which is why you'll never see 'Bag Lady' on mtv in the states.
― http://i54.tinypic.com/11l4yvn.gif, Friday, July 20, 2001 5:00 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark
it's from 9 years ago, so whatever, but it's amazing to me that this shit was ever tolerated. just fucking blown away.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Monday, 18 October 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG
― ilxor is awesome what the fuck are you guys on about (ilxor), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
wait.. http://i54.tinypic.com/11l4yvn.gif ?
― straight outta furnace (The Reverend), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
― straight outta furnace (The Reverend), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw "Bag Lady" on both MTV and VH1 a lot actually, back when they showed videos
― MC Tramp Stamp (HI DERE), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
and YES, it was a huge fucking hit, all over MTV
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
that gif is intense
― tylerw, Monday, 18 October 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i54.tinypic.com/11l4yvn.gif
― tylerw, Monday, 18 October 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
haha, sorry couldn't resist
It's her only pop top ten.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
"Love of My Life (An Ode to Hip-Hop)"
― MC Tramp Stamp (HI DERE), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Solo, that is.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 October 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait I thought her very first single, "On & On" was a big pop hit as well? Plus, what was up with ILM and hating R&B/pop artist back in the early 2000s? I read old threads and people were just blindly hateful. Now that hatred is directed towards "indie" bands now.
― lilsoulbrother, Monday, 18 October 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Nope.
― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 October 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, this line goes round and round in my head - she dips into this whole other voice for those couple lines
― inimitable bowel syndrome (schlump), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 09:01 (thirteen years ago) link
it's so visual!
― straight outta furnace (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.vibe.com/photo-galleries/full-clip-erykah-badu-runs-down-her-entire-catalogue
^as great as the complex bangladesh piece
(WARNING to whiney - you have to click more than once!)
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link
this is awesome
After that, Curtis goes, ‘Did you study the song?’ I’m like, ‘No…I didn’t study…I was just going to feel it.’ And that wasn’t the answer he wanted to hear. As a matter of fact, that session created the line when I said on New Amerykah 2, ‘Do you have that number to that other bass player?’ Well, Curtis Mayfield said that to someone in the session while the bass player was actually there! Everybody in the studio was quiet. Curtis Mayfield demanded excellence.”
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 November 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to Return of the Ankh right now. I like it even more than I did before. :)
― Are you anticipating an end to the Age of Stupid? (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 10 January 2011 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkuRfQMnEO0
― predeep natsvitika (forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 January 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
"gone baby, don't be long" has a video, directed by flying lotus: http://vimeo.com/19749132
it's pretty neat.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
don't like whatever they do to her voice on that track, too metallic sounding.
― bnw, Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
dope
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
http://potholesinmyblog.com/download-edith-funker-dont-forget-the-hot-saucemp3/
Annie (Don't Wear No Panties) is apparently no longer part of New Amerykah Part 3, but instead a song by a supergroup called Edith Funker, consisting of ?uestlove, Erykah, Wendy & Lisa and some other folk. Recorded version is pretty neat.
― Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link
AWESOME, have been wanting this song to emerge for a while
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Apparently it emerged almost a year ago and we all missed it?
― Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i know right i just saw the date on that blog post! how is it possible to have missed something like this.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Again. I feel the need to stress.
James Poyser, Erykah + ?uest = part of the best neo-soul funk line up ever (minus Bilal and D'Angelo).Wendy & Lisa (responsible for substantial amounts of classic-era prince?)
http://www.rockthedub.com/2009/02/rock-dub-interview-wendy-lisa.htmlhttp://www.playbsides.com/?tag=edith-funker
How is this not a wonderful thing?
― Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJWRlA-Sl4s
with DJ Jazzy Jeff as well?
― Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Totally missed that there was a studio version of this! I feel like I've been deprived.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ this, but, yes, omg LOVE it
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
will i keep on smoking treeEEeeess?...
― Aerosol, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm going to see her tonight but her twitter timeline is CONCERNING ME
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 March 2011 08:16 (thirteen years ago) link
as the support act surely she can't be 2 hours late as usual though. surely
does anyone know if there is to be a full length Edith Funker release,as that track really hits my current pleasure spots.
― mark e, Thursday, 31 March 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago) link
"as the support act surely she can't be 2 hours late as usual though. surely"um, you're talking about erykah BADU right? She gets going when she wants to get going.
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 31 March 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
she was on stage ten minutes EARLY :o
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 March 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link
(also incredible, amazing &c, you knew this)
"when she wants to"always a good live show tho
― slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 31 March 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
she was awesome!just an fyi, but its not worth attempting to bootleg a stadium show using the voice memo app on an iphone. :(i got the most awesome tee tho.
― the will & grace taint (stevie), Friday, 1 April 2011 07:29 (thirteen years ago) link
!
flyinglotus Flying Lotusproducer and artist working in the same studio together! none of this emailing shit10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply»Flying Lotusflyinglotus Flying LotusDay 3 on the album with @fatbellybella I'm starting early today.So far it's sounding pretty amazing.Im enjoying hearing our universes expand
― adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm guessing this isn't the promised motowny new amerykah pt 3 then?
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link
well it could be for him instead of for her
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
awesome!
― amphetamine fueled scholar (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm betting on a co-billing or new project name
― adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i just want more badu, fuck it, whatever its called
― Republicans voiced concern about young pages hearing the word uterus (stevie), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
otm x2
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
x333
― amphetamine fueled scholar (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm really thrilled that she's working with FlyLo.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Seemed kinda inevitable, but yeah.
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe this will put a little funk back in flylo's beats...have to say that even though he's stepped up the melody and orchestration etc., the beats on the last couple records have felt really jerky and mechanical (in a different way than los angeles, where all the looseness and unquantized percussion made the groove deeper).
― adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
her coachella set is streaming in 15 mins (assuming she starts on time)
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link
where?
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/coachella
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link
still sound checking atm
or just fucking around waiting for erykah, i can't tell
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
cool thx
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I only missed one song, right? Fuck school.
― Alex in Montreal, Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
On "Didn't Cha Know": "This is my favorite song to sing."
― scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Me: "Ditto."
Erykah has so much duck sauce. :D
― jaymc, Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I love when she sings this snip from "The Wiz."
― scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link
camera shots are great for a live show.
― You Get Hoynes (bnw), Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link
So happy right now.
― Andy K, Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link
KJLS;AFKJ[SF;SFK;LSA
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 April 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i had to go to dinner :(
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2011 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
sux that youtube isn't archiving
My friend keeps sending me OMIGOD text messages. She began with "20 Ft Tall" apparently....
― My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 April 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
indeed she did
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Ahhhhhh.....I missed "20 Feet Tall" :(
When I got on she was just starting "The Healer"
― banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 April 2011 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I'm bummed I missed this ;_;
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 17 April 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.prefixmag.com/news/watch-erykah-badus-coachella-set/51489/
― Crackle Box, Friday, 22 April 2011 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link
yall
http://vimeo.com/24219888
― skot gigz - moombah pimpin' (The Reverend), Saturday, 28 May 2011 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit this New Amerykah Part One album is amazing. ILM schooled me on this, thx y'all
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
She's gonna do a few "Rock the Bells" tour dates in the US this summer
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
the Rock the Bells lineup is INSANE this year but I hate huge festival shows/corporate arena venues so I'm gonna pass
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.schoolservice.com/store/images/product/icon/393.jpg
― jag goo (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
The Rock the Bells tour in the past had a DC area date but for 2011 so far all I see is NYC, San Francisco, LA and Boston
with Badu doing ‘Baduizm’in NYC and ?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
id def pay to see her do mamas gun in full
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
yay shakey
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
it definitely feels like an extension of "Voodoo" in places
also lol @ Network monologue
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
Mama's Gun is next
― flowers for algerinon goalkeeper (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.vladtv.com/blog/51066/erykah-badu-dropping-mixtape-as-dj-lo-down-loretta-brown/
Lowdown Loretta Brown Mixtape this month!!!!
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 8 July 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Friday, 8 July 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
suuuuuure
― the pallid white, noseless face of god (The Brainwasher), Friday, 8 July 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
Ok, I mean, healthy skepticism is appropriate, but still excited.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 8 July 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
New Amerykah feels worlds away from Voodoo imo
― some dude, Saturday, 9 July 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, v different (although both brilliant) albums.
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Saturday, 9 July 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
ya thanks to ILM I too finally got around to listening to New Amerykah Part One and wowww.
― Sir Chips Keswick (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 9 July 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
http://godsilla.bandcamp.com/album/cpr-blendtape-hosted-by-dj-lo-down-loretta-brown-aka-erykah-badu-retail
idgi
― sitcom neighbor (schlump), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 10:20 (twelve years ago) link
did anyone see erykah in london last month? lex?
― i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 10:38 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't, i didn't know she was playing until about a day before and i was just too busy :(
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 10:51 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i had to be across town that night too. the show i saw was pretty sublime but still i felt a pang of regret knowing i was missing an erykah show.
really enjoying the gods illa blendtape but not sure what badu had to do with it, beyond some voice overs.
― i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure they're friends of hers and it's just a way of upping the profile of the thing
― Number None, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 11:22 (twelve years ago) link
she's djing at les poisson rouge in nyc next month
― generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
presumably around the same time as rock the bells
she's doing something as Lo Down Loretta Brown here in SF in a few weeks at the Mezzanine, I think...? I won't be able to make it. also the flyer is terrible.
― Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
there's what sounds like a new badu/flylo track here, around 20:00 - http://www.gorillavsbear.net/2011/08/05/mp3-thundercat-shenanigans-pt-1-mixtape-mixed-by-flying-lotus/
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 5 August 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
The one after "Get Munny"? That's from Shafiq Husayn's album.
― third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Friday, 5 August 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
(Great track, btw.)
ah, thanks. never checked out that record.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 5 August 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
The vocalist sounds a bit like Badu but it's Noni Limar.
There's an alt mix of that album's "Major Heavy" in the mix, too.
Shafiq En' A-Free-Ka is one of my favorite albums of the last few years.
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Friday, 5 August 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
Still sinking into it. It seems waaaaay denser than, for instance, Sa-Ra's last one.
― third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Friday, 5 August 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
"Dust & Kisses" seems by far its most accessible track.
Temporary hijack. I don't think Erykah would mind (seriously beautiful video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iElw4kHCs1I
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Friday, 5 August 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
I complete forgot about that Shafiq Husayn album but it is super dope.
― dutty whiney (The Reverend), Friday, 5 August 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
thirded.
― i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Saturday, 6 August 2011 08:32 (twelve years ago) link
i much prefer it to the last sa ra album
― i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Saturday, 6 August 2011 08:33 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah.
― dutty whiney (The Reverend), Saturday, 6 August 2011 08:37 (twelve years ago) link
I'm in love with Nuclear Evolution. I'm as of yet just intrigued by Shafiq En' A-Free-Ka.
― third-generation stripper (Eric H.), Saturday, 6 August 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
http://img.sxsw.com/2011/bands/4553.jpg
― Elderflower Gimcrax Flores (admrl), Friday, 12 August 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
That's old. #jussayin
― The Reverend, Friday, 12 August 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
i have that design on a tee shirt.
― sbgorf (stevie), Friday, 12 August 2011 08:30 (twelve years ago) link
i don't wear it to work anymore.
it's a little trypophobic innit?
― los lowblows (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 August 2011 07:05 (twelve years ago) link
to much time on ilx
― I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
that's an odd toast
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 14 August 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
excelsior
― I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 August 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
GQ: What's next thing for you? Erykah Badu: I'm recording an album right now, with [experimental music producer] Flying Lotus. I'm touring. But things are slowing down now 'cause my children are in school again. [Badu has three children: a son with Andre 3000; a daughter with rapper the D.O.C.; and a daughter with rapper Jay Electronica.] This is the time of year when we all nest in our little home in Dallas and cook breakfast and all those things we been doin' on tour, just in one place. I'm kind of a recluse when it comes to going outside.
GQ: How did you and Flying Lotus hook up? Erykah Badu: We were talking to each other on MySpace years ago when MySpace was a thing. Social networking was how we hooked up. I told him I'd be in L.A. and he came over to Steve Wilson's house—Stevie is a psychedelic guitar player, a great musician. If both of our worlds can meet and we feel good about it, it's going to be something dope.
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music/201111/erykah-badu-gq-music-issue#ixzz1dYwEfl00
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 November 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
I hope this really works out
― james k lolk (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 14 November 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
Haha, I'm guessing this is a case of similar names here, but that would be kind of awesome Porcupine Tree guitarist Steven Wilson was involved in this too.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 14 November 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
new song featuring erykah - really nice, jazzy, gonna check this project out when it drops (think robert glasper's been working with king as well)
http://royayersproject.com/2012/01/robert-glasper-experiement-feat-erykah-badu-afro-blue-audio-2012/
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
gonna see glasper with bilal and co. (fingers crossed maybe erykah or lupe and folks) in late feb; looking forward to that show a lot.
― Thug Luftwaffle (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
he's always been a great live show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKOwzHaPQOg
Was on Letterman this week doing something fucking awesome.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.nextmovie.com/blog/erykah-badu-interview-re-generation/
Interview also says that her next album comes out 4th Quarter 2012 - so we should probably expect it by February 2013.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
they're probably regretting printing the sleeve on such oil-resistant card though, right
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
hm?
the original recorded version has Yasiin Bey/Mos Def on it also.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder what her next record is. like the flying lotus one i guess, sooner than loretta brown? & when the Cannabinoids record is.
xp oh i just meant that letterman holds up a grossly fingerprint smudged lp sleeve
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
this whole setup is super lame, but she sounds great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWKCUU1SY4s
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
Are the Cannabinoids just her back up band? Or is there like an ALBUM she is specifically making with them?
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
reviews from the shows say that they're playing remodelled erykah jams & a bunch of their own stuff. some stuff that erykah does sorta non-authorially doesn't totally do it for me even though it ticks a lot of boxes, like the letterman thing above or the recent blue note thing, which was super nice but just didn't have the focus of her records. like hearing that she's in a group w/tony allen & damon albarn makes me feel like it'll be some nice sounding record that doesn't do anything for me, but who knows, i'm maybe just less into her guest spots than some ppl
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
that interview is awesome; thanks Alex for posting it
― kvetcher in the rye (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
dope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzdn_qZUHxE
― So Arabian Spruce (Whitey on the Moon), Friday, 23 March 2012 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
the whole robert glasper album is excellent, surprised there hasn't been more discussion on ILM
― lex pretend, Friday, 23 March 2012 09:54 (twelve years ago) link
what, even the Nirvana cover lex?
― Number None, Friday, 23 March 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
yes! the second cover of that song i love. totally transforms the shitty original
― lex pretend, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
i talked a little about it on a jazz thread, but it's kinda boring and safe. i'm happy to listen to chris dave play beats for an hour, but it seems like it's in this weird middle ground between a 'real' song-focused r&b record and a jazz/musician's record where the trio gets to go hard, so it's not quite satisfying in either sense. it almost feels like a demo reel for them to get even more gigs backing up great vocalists.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
maybe i need to give it another shot
jordan you are the first person i've heard who agrees with me about this! i like it but i don't love it, and i've thought it was my fault until now. not enough variation, i think -- for me, esperanza spalding's 'radio music society' is what 'black radio' thinks it is.
― Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
I listened to the first song and was not wowed, and meant to get back to it but haven't.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
i think live it would light up insane
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
is this cannot be changed m4tt c?
― The Reverend, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
si claro
― Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1UVckumo2A
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
ASTONISHING imho
ps has this been discussed here yet? http://www.kevinnottingham.com/2012/03/25/the-cannabinoids-the-beat-tape-vol-1/
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/43298255
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh o_O_o
NSFW
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of like the fact that she was so prim and proper in her 20s but now that she's in her 40s is all "HERE'S MY COOCH"
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
O_______O
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
the flaming lips -- enabling weird nightmares since 1985.
― tylerw, Saturday, 2 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
it's not her! it's her sister. which makes the entire thing even weirder.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
that's erykah in the bathtub though, right? lip-syncing?
― tylerw, Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
huh. xp
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not sure. the whole thing might be her sister. they look very similar.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
looks good, whoever it is. the song is terrible.
― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
jizztub
― Word of Wisdom Robots (Abbbottt), Sunday, 3 June 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
fuck off, flaming lips
― een, Sunday, 3 June 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
3:33pm dallas @waynecoyne then... perhaps, next time u get an occasion to work with an artist who respects your mind/art, you should send at least a ROUGh version of the video u PLAN to release b4 u manipulate or compromise the artist's brand by desperately releasing a poor excuse for shock and nudity that sends a convoluted message that passes as art( to some).Even with Window Seat there was a method and thought process involved. I have not one need for publicity . I just love artistic dialogue . And just because an image is shocking does not make it art. You obviously have a misconception of who I am artistically. I don't mind that but...By the way you are an ass. Yu did everything wrong from the on set . First:You showed me a concept of beautiful tasteful imagery( by way of vid text messages) . I trusted that. I was mistaken. Then u release an unedited, unapproved version within the next few days. That all spells 1 thing , Self Serving . When asked what the concept meant after u explained it , u replied ,"it doesn't mean anything , I just want to make a great video that everyone is going to watch. " I understood , because as an artist we all desire that. But we don't all do it at another artist's expense . I attempted to resolve this respectfully by having conversations with u after the release but that too proved to be a poor excuse for art. From jump, You begged me to sit in a tub of that other shit and I said naw. I refused to sit in any liquid that was not water. But Out of RESPECT for you and the artist you 'appear' to be, I Didn't wanna kill your concept , wanted u to at least get it out of your head . After all, u spent your dough on studio , trip to Dallas etc.. Sooo, I invited Nayrok , my lil sis and artist, who is much more liberal ,to be subject of those other disturbing (to me ) scenes . I told u from jump that I believed your concept to be disturbing. But would give your edit a chance. You then said u would take my shots ( in clear water/ fully covered parts -seemed harmless enough) and Nayrok's part ( which I was not present for but saw the photos and a sample scene of cornstarch dripping ) and edit them together along with cosmic, green screen images ( which no one saw) then would show me the edit. . Instead, U disrespected me by releasing pics and rough vid on the internet without my approval. (Contract breech )That is equivalent to putting out a security camera's images of me changing in the fitting room. I never would have approved that tasteless, meaningless, shock motivated video . Our art is a reflection of who we are . I have no connection to those images shot in their raw version. I was interested in seeing an amazing edit that would perhaps change or alter my thoughts . Never happened . You also did the same thing with the song itself which displays crappy "rough "vocals by me . I let it go , perhaps iiiii was missing something, I thought. I Should have followed my first mind back in studio when recording the vocals "your way". ( Red flag.) It was uncomfortable. For that I am at fault . Consequently, brother, As a human I am disgusted with your what appears to be desperation and poor execution. And disregard for others . As a director I am unimpressed . As a sociologist I understand your type. As your fellow artist I am uninspired. As a woman I feel violated and underestimated. Hope it works out for ya ,Wayne. Really i could give a shit less.Still love your live show tho. And , you're welcomed. Lesson learned . By the way I have guested in very few videos. But I have always been given the opportunity to see the edit and contribute to it when my roll is substantial. Not this time . I guess u feel it better to apologize than ask for permission and be refused . Hey, Love u man, but your ways are not very nice . O, And on behalf of all the artists u have manipulated or plan to manipulate, find another way . These things have been said out of necessity. And if you don't like it you can KiSS MY Glittery ASS .O and Nayrok told me to tell u to kiss her ass too .Almost forgot. Peace
Ms. Badu
Analog Girl's Magnetic Strip Club
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
yikes!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
Only now just watched it and, yes, fuck you flaming lips.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
can someone shorthand what happened here
― bnw, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
ouch
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
Apparently she's lost Shafiq's number. Can someone plz just pass it along to her and we can put this whole last 6 months or so of collaborating with shit musicians behind us? kthxbye.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
The backtracking on this has been pretty epic on all sides, tho, tbh.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
how so?
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
*applauds erykah*
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
wow that is very hammer
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
eric, you have a link to that instead of the text?
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/hno30u
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
thx
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
The only thing I blame Erykah for is having suddenly terrible taste in collaborators.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
Consequently, brother, As a human I am disgusted with your what appears to be desperation and poor execution. And disregard for others . As a director I am unimpressed . As a sociologist I understand your type. As your fellow artist I am uninspired. As a woman I feel violated and underestimated.
<3 <3 <3
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
He shoulda just stuck with smoking one of those jelly weed skulls.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
this whole last 6 months or so of collaborating with shit musicians behind us? kthxbye.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:42 PM Bookmark
who other than the flaming lips?
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
not shitty musicians but it seems like she's been doing lots of low-stakes collabs lately, like the "cannabinoids" and that all-star funk cover band with ?uestlove, wendy & lisa, etc
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
whatever that Ronson thing is upthread + whatever the hell the Cannabinoids are
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
xpost, et al
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah the new orleans thing
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
glad to see her distancing herself from the song too
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/waynecoyne
What a creep.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
@waynecoyne
Dang!!!!! @fatbellybella you really know how to do it!!!! You hatin on me has gotten the video 100,000 more views !!!LOVE LOVE LOVE
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder what she and nayrok were expecting after filming that
― the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
People who RT fan compliments are the most disgusting savages.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
if you express this sentiment among fans you'll find that some people think of it as just giving the fan a chance to have his/her voice heard - like, I agree with you & would never, but if you say "rt'ing people praising you is gross" ppl will tell you "oh so you're too good to rt a compliment from somebody, fine fine mr. high-n-mighty"
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm sure it's a weird thing to deal w/ because certain fans/fanbases really get off on the "i have the BEST FANS IN THE WORLD MWAH" thing that seems sycophantic and gross to people outside of it.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
there's something really sad to me about how coyne is this 50 year old dude who was slogging through the pre-internet underground for years and now he's just constantly chasing this asinine lol virality culture and trying to be the king of meme music with all his FOUR DAY LONG SONGS FEATURING KE$HA WOAH DUDE
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
it wouldn't be sad to you in the same sense of "sad" if you saw his bank statement, I think
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
you have?
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
no, but they do very well for themselves, I can tell you that - what we out here in snarksville think of as "chasing virality" codes for a larger % of the public as "being famous." what looks like trying too hard to people who think about pop culture all day long just looks like success to people whose engagement isn't as deep-game
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
see that's the thing, i shouldn't pity him because he got to be very successful at being kooky eccentric artist guy, but fuck what a lamewad
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
The thing about fans expecting their compliments to be retweeted is so strange to me. It seems pretty self-centered and entitled.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
that version of 'race for the prize' they did to cash in on the thunder is just amazingly half assed, even for the flaming lips in 2012
― balls, Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i don't begrudge him his success, in some ways i admire FL for not doing the boring old album-single cycle and trying to do something different, but it's like he's actively trying to be more inane than people half his age raised on youtube (and doing a great job of it)
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
there's a distinction wrt the things he's RTing that's even worse though, which is that alongside you're right NEVER CHANGE WAYNE!! he's also (admittedly amid just rting every other thing) pasting stuff like
Ry4n W. Bradley @Seriously?! http://bit.ly/LyY6gF Erykah Badu should be thankful to @theflaminglips & @waynecoyne for reminding people she's still around.Retweeted by Wayne Coyne
which is like building a treehouse & having your friends throw coconuts out of it at strangers
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
do you remember when you wrote to the letters column in your favorite bands fanzine and you were stoked that they printed it? or just that one time someone called you out in the audience by name? (for me it was rob crow thanking me for writing a story on heavy vegetable in my school newspaper) i don't think i was either self-centered or entitled or creepy for being stoked about that, it's just that nowadays it's on twitter between adults i guess.
― the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, but - and I don't like saying this any more than I like knowing it - it's a generational thing. what seems crass & gross to us reads different to a different generation. I can either cling to my sense of how things seem to me, or I can try to see things from a different perspective. I have my limits, to me I just couldn't look at myself if I was rt'ing AEROSMITH ROCKS, BIG FAN HERE CAN I GET A RT? but the whole process looks diff. to younger cats, they grew up in a diff. world than I did so it's natural that things would look different to them
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
there's a distinction wrt the things he's RTing that's even worse though, which is that alongside you're right NEVER CHANGE WAYNE!!
Badu's doing the same YOU'RE SO RIGHT thing on her feed isn't she?
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
i guess it's just that some sort of not really objectionable thing is being multiplied by whatever coyne did which seems at least poorly thought-out and likely completely creepy multiplied by hating on the fallen genius multiplied by the general thing of hating on twitter
― the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link
maybe one "multiplied by hating on twitter" should be a "raised to the power of hating on twitter"
i'm with you all though, i got no twitter acct
― the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
Ry4n W. Bradley should look up the first-week sales of Embryonic and Return of the Ankh.
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
no one looks good in this exchange, really sad badu is involved at all tbh
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
eh they debuted at #8 and she debuted at #4, it's not like they're not in the same basic bracket of success by almost any standard (xpost)
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
Sales, not chart position.
A funny thing to say, regardless.
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean they're 2 artists who have different enough fanbases that when one mentions the other half the people listening to "who?"
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
Ankh: 110K
Embryonic: 32K
Thank you for reviving Badu's career, Flaming Lips.
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
has badu retweeted you yet
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link
i wonder if garry shandling still has s1ocki blocked for very gently mocking shandlings retweeting ppl complimenting him, which i still think is odd but apparently it's the present day equiv of an autograph or whatever. 'can i get a RT for my birthday' also creeps me out.
― balls, Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
i mean in the 90s when there were just occasional musicians who were really accessible and participated in message boards and stuff, 16 year old me would get pretty geeked out about any guy from a band i listened to responding to an e-mail. and granted, going into a profession where those kinds of interactions are commonplace may have accelerated me becoming a little more blase about it, but yeah i don't know how the novelty of it all hasn't worn off for most people.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
because it's still a novelty, man.
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
trying to be the king of meme music with all his FOUR DAY LONG SONGS FEATURING KE$HA WOAH DUDE
i feel you, but haven't they been doing this sort of thing all along (zareeka etc)? one person's creative high-concept release is another's crass gimmick (see also bjork).
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
the flaming lips are no bjork
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
when I get drunk I run like busta rhymes in that one vid and say bjork like the rza
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
tho when I do it I sound like schwarzenegger
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:57 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i totally see what he's doing now as consistent with the band's history, in terms of chasing some kind of fun new idea, it's just become kind of grotesque at some point. jack white's become very relentlessly meme-y over the years too.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
I'm gonna throw up, ugggghh this guy.
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
what's ugly about it is his whole bangbus HAW HAW WE FUCKED THAT BITCH OVER attitude
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, this has gotten a whole new level of ugly.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
what looks like trying too hard to people who think about pop culture all day long just looks like success to people whose engagement isn't as deep-game
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:48 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
one of the most enlightening / enlightened things I've ever read on ilx tbh. very eloquently sums up my 'Hulk smash'-level rage when I see dudes on stage dancing for chicken and making bank doing it.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 7 June 2012 02:54 (eleven years ago) link
dancing...for...chicken...?
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
Chewing on the expression "dancing for chicken" xp
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://resurreccionepiscopal.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/dancing_chicken.gif
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcoqeNdMAfA
― balls, Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
^absolute first thing that came to mind
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
I thought chicken-dance but nobody wants to see that
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
now i really hope If Assholes comes back and explains "dancing for chicken" because i'm so mystified by it. like the best guess is that it's kind of like some randomly specific variation on 'sing for your supper'?
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
I confess I googled it, thought I was behind on chicken-related slang
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
As a director I am unimpressed... As your fellow artist I am uninspired
i am really glad she went there with this. like it wasn't just exploitative, it was a really shitty video. they were doing they're usual 'omg kitschy AND challenging' thing, which is what it is (and it seemed to even be what she expected), but the execution/production was just embarrassing. so tasteless
― een, Thursday, 7 June 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
the video would have been been perfect if they just did the blowfly version
http://open.spotify.com/track/3fxjEEwnvYWHmVkbOk3sXd
― liars - wkiw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 7 June 2012 05:00 (eleven years ago) link
Jesus Christ you guys, do none of you remember this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkxvxV-S4wM
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
oh god those wayne coyne fan tweets making me more livid than anyone should be this early in the morning
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 07:45 (eleven years ago) link
ha i hadn't noticed whether badu was RTing her rallied masses as well. i want to be precious and suggest a distinction - between criticising, & then referencing your support, & being criticised, then relying on yr audience's reflexive defence - but i'm probably just being a badu fan here. the most reassuring thing about this def the sign that she isn't totally engaged w/the weak collaboration. she's making a record w/flying lotus, iirc, so that'll be nice.
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
Does anyone know anything beyond that Twitter back-and-forth? There's clearly quite a bit of backstory needed here. 'As a woman I feel violated' is kind of a heavy thing to throw out when we don't have any idea where or how exactly the communication breakdown occurred.
the most reassuring thing about this def the sign that she isn't totally engaged w/the weak collaboration.
What about last week, when she was enthusiastically RTing Coyne about it?
The whole thing could be some kind of set up, I guess.
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:45 (eleven years ago) link
people are going to believe what they already had decided to believe in a situation like this: if you liked Eryka Badu & not the Flaming Lips, you're going to insist that she shares your estimation of them & did all along (even though her long piece insists that she digs their work, still). what actually went down here isn't something anybody not directly involved is actually going to know: Badu liked the idea and got buyer's remorse when she saw the video? Badu liked the idea and people in her camp hated it when they saw it and told her "put some distance between yourself & this," and she told the Lips "I'm going to need some plausible deniability on this"? Lots of complicated shit goes on between artists & management & publicists & handlers & friends-in-camp, etc., and if, when an artist speaks to the public, you ever think "he/she's shooting from the hip here," you're naive, unless the artist is somebody crazy like Britney. It's not "a set up," but the stuff people are responding to is just the outward resolve on something that nobody's actually going to know the details about. attributing lone-actor agency to a successful artist is some believing-in-the-Wizard shit imo
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
Wow you are totally off-base and historically incorrect there, aero.
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
That is, there are so many examples of regrettable, retractable A-list tweeting, it seems impossible to me that it could've come from anywhere but a single person with too much caffeine, alcohol. Furthermore I can't even imagine a world where Erykah's rant was precluded by a phone call with an e-mail from management saying "we've gotta burn this". She's tweeting rage at Wayne's wife for god's sake
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
Furthermore I can't even imagine a world where Erykah's rant was precluded by a phone call with an e-mail from management saying "we've gotta burn this".
you can't, really? you're right though that Twitter means you do get people just saying whatever comes to mind & putting it out there, but this whole thing smells like backstage stuff getting repackaged
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
If anything, in my experience in dealing with managers of A-to-F listers, there's a lack of agency in this regard. The attitude of most management is "stay off the internet / stop talking", definitely not "start beef with band X"
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
I gotta cede ground to the guy who knows more A-listers than me!
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
I was talking about my own management ;) I do agree that "we'll never know" but this is a woman who live-tweeted her birth, like, I can't even follow her
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
"buyer's remorse" sounds a bit like a defense lawyer in a date rape case
― bnw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
people tweet all kinds of things but in my experience managers have a lot to say about what business-specific stuff gets tweeted/tumbl'd/etc
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
yes, defense lawyers do use this, it's gross when they do. I don't see a lot of comparisons between "I don't look how I hoped I'd look in the video I agreed to be in, it's different from how it was pitched to me & the video sucks & that pisses me off" and rape, maybe you do idk
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
I don't deny that Erykah probably only realized the full extent of the video's tastelessness after its release, and I'm not even sure she didn't invent a few "facts" in that missive from yesterday. But I'm pretty sure it wasn't a movie orchestrated by anyone but Erykah herself.
And good on her for it.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
which magical behind-the-scenes wizard told the GOOP girl to tweet the n-word
― liars - wkiw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
NO she didn't she DID? she DID
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
what is "GOOP"
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
Is the video really 'tasteless', though? I mean, I agree with her assertion that it's pretty much just surface and no depth, but I wouldn't call the video itself tasteless. The way it was handled sounds a little tasteless, for sure.
D'you figure I'm correct in my understanding (as I don't think she really came out and said as much) that the core of her beef with the video itself is that it isn't made explicitly clear that the naughty bits aren't her own?
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
Gwyn probably fired an intern over that one xp
― Ò (Ówen P.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
The attitude of most management is "stay off the internet / stop talking",
I could paraphrase so many fucking conversations about Corey Taylor right now but I won't.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
I don't see a lot of comparisons between "I don't look how I hoped I'd look in the video I agreed to be in, it's different from how it was pitched to me & the video sucks & that pisses me off" and rape, maybe you do idk
But I HAVE seen people making this comparison in this case! I've wondered if there's a way to be curious about the suggested disparity between the pitch for the video ("you're completely nude, in a tub, covered in glitter and blood and semen") and how it turned out, without fielding a 'blaming the victim' accusation!
Anyway, you're OTM - there's no possible way to know everything that's gone on here.
I actually liked the video, anyway. I like both Erykah Badu and The Flaming Lips, which seems to be rare here?
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
btw the whole "Gwyneth wrote 'Ni**as in paris' in a tweet" controversy was stupid
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I'm in the apparent minority there with you. Like 'em both (although generally more in the past tense with Flaming Lips), like the song, like the video.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
Good grief, can someone dis-invent the internet please? Wayne really does come across like a total arse on twitter. Never really listened to any of his records, and now feel I would probably discriminate against him after looking at his twitter page. The sad thing is that it is argument about some tasteless, crass video which is just candyfloss really, its not about music.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Flying Lotus material can't drop soon enough imo.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, June 7, 2012 10:19 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
she decided not to appear nude...but brought along a similar-looking sibling to do the nude scene. for the video of a song she sings on. how could she not anticipate that assumption?
it sounded to me like she was as upset about the lack of a chance to see and approve the video before it went online as what actually went online.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
That she's doing some damage control is highly likely, but everything she says about the video's artistry is true. Win-win.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
"I don't look how I hoped I'd look in the video I agreed to be in, it's different from how it was pitched to me & the video sucks & that pisses me off" and rape, maybe you do idk
Ehh, I read "pisses me off" as violated a contract and released some nude footage of my sister that we hadn't approved. Still strikes me as creepy.
― bnw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
My guess is that Badu is used to operating in a world very different from the Lips camp. Coyne puts himself out there, Badu is surrounded/protected by a machine. She's probably used to certain things, professional expectations, that a DIY sort like Coyne doesn't have to deal with.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
First off im siding with the Lips here cos if she had a problem w it, yeah deal with it through management. There is a professional way to deal with this stuff.
Secondly, I'm frankly confused about the "This is tasteless" criticism unless they filmed 90% other unused footage and 10% naked glitter stuff. Maybe look into who you are collaborating with before you decide to record a song with them and shoot a music video with them too. If you've seen the past half dozen of Lips videos, they all have nudity and fake blood and b-movie shock stuff in them it's not anything new hell one of the first promo pics ever they made someone pretend to be dead on the ground in the background with fake blood for shock value.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't had a chance to read all this, but she's always done one-off, "non-authorial" (as someone else put it) collaborations of varying quality between albums and they've never really had any bearing on the results of her more official output.
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
Also worth keeping in mind that Badu is possibly crazy.
This is dumber all around than the Nicki Minaj/Flex feud.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
I don't understand what she wants from them. They removed the video.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
She probably wants him to stop saying shit like Dang!!!!! @fatbellybella you really know how to do it!!!! You hatin on me has gotten the video 100,000 more views !!!LOVE LOVE LOVE on Twitter
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
I kinda want to wait until this all shakes out before making any judgments about who did wrong by who, but Coyne certainly isn't doing a whole lot to avoid looking like a douche in this sitch.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
OTM. Lips have been doing this kind of stuff for ever. Even going back to the 90s with Zaireeka, the Parking Lot Experiments, the boombox concerts, the walls of xmas lights, Christmas on Mars movie (which they started working on back then), the bubble machine, the song about masturbation, etc. This isn't some thing they are cynically just starting to do now with the internet, it's kind of their MO.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
Also how is Wayne the bad guy in this? He seems to be the adult/professional in this situation:
Conservative audience! The video was intended for mature audiences and is NOT an Erykah Badu statement.. It is a Flaming Lips video!!!Expand
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6 Jun Wayne Coyne Wayne Coyne @waynecoyne
For the making of and the content of the controversial video !!! We are very sorry if it has offended some of Erykah Badu's moreExpand
To all the haters who think Erykah Badu has lost her mind!!! She has NOT!!! The Flaming Lips take full responsibility ..Expand
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
We are very sorry if it has offended some of Erykah Badu's moreConservative audience! The video was intended for mature audiences and is NOT an Erykah Badu statement.. It is a Flaming Lips video!!!
sweet apology, dude
― yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
He coulda gone the EB route and called her a greedy, tasteless hack like she did them.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ "conservative audience"
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, June 7, 2012 1:35 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm aware of that. at no point was i suggesting that it was a break with their past, just that introducing the internet into the equation, and the guy being middle aged and fairly successful now, has given it a whole gross tinge that those old stunts didn't have imo.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
He seems to be the adult/professional in this situation:
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
no adult/professional has ever used the phrase "To all the haters"
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah how exactly is that unprofessional? I mean his job is King Meme, and this is placing this ridiculous thing in a business context. I say looking on the bright side rather than being personally vindictive is the adult way to go.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
I mean "See the greed up close"? Really, EB? Like, how much money do you make from having a music video on youtube? Maybe enough to pay for the studio, crew, lights, etc.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
Here's a good wrap-up so far
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/184262/epic-twitter-battle-ensues-between-erykah-badu-wayne-coyne-and-michelle-coyne/
God, I really miss suggest ban option right now.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Lol
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
I bet Ke$ha put Coyne up to this.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
zomg Erykah showed up 6 hours late for the video shoot!
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
"Glitter, Wayne! Glitter!"
Sparkle, Nayrock! Sparkle!
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
razzle dazzle!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5pgUbxMsHQ
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
i thought "see the greed up close" was a pretty good zing and pretty much showed coyne to be pretty shallow
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
also who the f thinks badu is crazy?!
(She's a little crazy, from the firsthand tales I've heard)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
I think she's a little crazy, but in the good way. Not the "bad, shallow, opportunist faux artist" way. Of course, I understand if some people disagree with me on that point, but they better not be Flaming Lips fans.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
ppl think shes eccentric for sure
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
fwiw i think shes coming off better than he is here
I say looking on the bright side rather than being personally vindictive is the adult way to go.
Posting pictures of your lips covered in glitter = adult and professional. Okay.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
It's unprofessional to air this kind of stuff in a long rant in public. All of that is something she could have just sent in an email, directly to him. Most of the remarks are personal, or have to do with the working relationship, stuff that none of the public has any first hand knowledge of, so why would she feel the need to put all this out there in public?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
Posting a long public rant about problems with your coworker and calling them an asshole. That is more adult and professional?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
One of them is making a move at saving her artistic integrity. The other one is mocking hers. Seems pretty simple to me.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
I think Badu's rant does more damage to her artistic integrity than the video did. I had forgotten the video even existed.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
eccentric ≠ crazy. of course badu is eccentric but that doesn't mean she's some paranoid nutcase whose allegations can be dismissed with "lol crazy".
public calling out seems a legit move to me if what badu alleges is true - the working relationship has obviously broken down, and that was down to coyne.
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
how does badu calling out someone who was a douche to her harm her artistic integrity? it adds to it if anything. people should be applauding her.
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
I'll give her this, it definitely makes her out to be the more self-important Artiste of this whole affair.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
Because, in direct violation of the agreement they made when she and her sister agreed to do the video, she was not granted a viewing or a say on a video that contains naked shots of both her sister and herself before it was blasted out to the public?
If the beef was just "you picked my shitty vocal" you would have a halfway defensible point, but in what universe is the person who said "so you are comfortable doing this video, we will show you the video so you can give input on it before it goes out there... *waits for door to close* *uploads to Pitchfork* *snickers on Twitter*" the more professional person here?
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
Dudes they had already taken it down before the whole rant!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Really it sounds like a misunderstanding at worst. I doubt Coyne meant her or her integrity harm. Unless Badu had asked them multiple times to take it down with no or negative response, Badu comes off pretty unprofessional. Which is why you don't really get much public bridge-burning of this sort from artists.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
oh no other shitty indie bands won't want her to be their heady fwend
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
who listens to music bc they're impressed with the professionalism of the artist? srsly.
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
Who the fuck is talking about the listener? Listener has no dog in this fight.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, June 7, 2012 2:49 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
poll
― liars - wkiw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
oh, so what role are the posters in this thread taking? professional professionalism professors?
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella 29 May
Those nude photos posted by Wayne (flaming lips) are of the beautiful Nayrok my lil sister and bestee.We do look alike.Video looks cosmic.
ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella 04 June
Official Flaming Lips Vid discussion. How does it make u feel? Astetically, What does it make u fear? Anger?Joy?Freedom?Disgust? Discuss.
She retweets a bunch of comments on it, discusses it with people. If she had asked them to remove it multiple times, it doesn't really show in her twitter account.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
also professionals do not say "bestee," i mean c'mon.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
Her attacking his wife is pretty lame.Sonic Violence @SonicViolencelol @pitchforkmedia playin up this @waynecoyne and @fatbellybella shit. Really? Minutely updates? Yall are strapped for content.
19h ErykahBadoula ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella@SonicViolence cause @pitchforkmedia and @waynecoyne are closer friends than @pitchforkmedia and @fatbellybella +Wayne's old ass needs this.
19h MichelleMartin-Coyne MichelleMartin-Coyne @mzmartincoyneWayne has the ass of a 26 yr old&would never be 6hrs late for a shoot. @fatbellybella @sonicviolence @pitchforkmedia @waynecoyne
18h ErykahBadoula ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella@mzmartincoyne hi was wondering when u were gonna sober up and say somethin.your husbands an ass and u know it-tell the truth.Do not lie.
18h MichelleMartin-Coyne MichelleMartin-Coyne @mzmartincoyneLove the video!think you&your sister are stunning!Your track is my favorite! I'm a lover not a fighter @fatbellybella http://pic.twitter.com/7kICNuLW
18h ErykahBadoula ErykahBadoula @fatbellybella@mzmartincoyne all good.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
We are all just rubberneckers.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
OTM x 1 million
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
uh it looks like coyne's wife got involved first
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
Basically Erykah Badu is being needlessly vindictive and Wayne & his wife are trying to be positive/cute about the whole situation. Of course if you think the Lips are brain dead hippies and Badu is a deep artist, then...
Eh, I'm tired of thinking about this. Gonna leave this thread. Most of you guys are siding with EB anyways, which I really don't understand. Have fun the rest of the day with this.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
EB got what she wants, the video was taken down, like a week or so after it was uploaded, retweeted by her, commented on by her fans, etc. Now she is using the opportunity to trash talk this guy.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Good thing it was retracted before it started floating around the internet so that no one will ever, ever see it.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
I know that when I'm trying to be positive and cute about a touchy subject, I say things like:
Wayne has the ass of a 26 yr old&would never be 6hrs late for a shoot. @fatbellybella @sonicviolence @pitchforkmedia @waynecoyne
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
Next time, Adam, just post "D" re: thread title and be done with it.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
"positive/cute"!!!!!!! gtfo with that twee hippie bs
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe if Badu hated the video so much she shouldn't have been retweeting about it for the past week!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
bye yall have fun at your serious art integrity party
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
Rangers v Celtic
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
Have "fun" listening to Flaming Lips' Justin Bieber slowed down 800 percent jamz.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
lol wait was EB tweeting links to the vid w/out having watched it? #confused
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
heh fair number of posters itt seem to be p biased here huh
i like both badu's and coyne's music and they both come off like morons here. -30-
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
Don't cloud the issues like that.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
there might be a p different ilx convo happening if a flaming lips thread was revived first
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
i'm just gonna throw it out there that this old white dude using black womens' bodies for publicity is extra icky
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Yeaaaahhhh...I'm not touching that comment with a ten foot pole.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
i like both badu's and coyne's music and they both come off like morons here.
This is absolutely right.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
Old white dude is whopping ten years older than Badu.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
once again i have go to ONTD for my faith in humanity to be restored. the kids there get it http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/69533898.html
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
tbf he's used bodies of all ages and races, including his own, to get publicity in reason years.
but besides that, i like both badu's and coyne's music and they both come off like morons here.
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
ugh ONTD is one of the most vacuous corners of the whole internet.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
Coyne brings to mind The Genius of the Crowd by Charles Bukowski. '..and the best at hate are those who preach love'.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
The controversy over the video is a bit of a storm in a tea cup really but I do like both of them artists so feel that it's a shame the collaboration is musically so mediocre. Time was when I would have been desperate to hear this... but it's a bit... pshhhhh.
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry to hear that a cover of a 40+ year-old cover of a song (that was already 20+ years old when Roberta Flack covered it) isn't miiiiiindblowingly raaaaaadical enough for some people. I think it's a really nice logical progression of Flack's version, which was already slow and expansive and had somewhat of a narcotic quality to it. I love her version so much, and these folks have done all right by it, imho.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
I agree with you 100%. Time was when this collaboration would have promised more than nice.
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Thursday, 7 June 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
song is okay, not great. more ambient than pop, but that's a reasonable approach afaic. the video is (was) rather sexy, but not particularly interesting beyond that.
sad to read about the ensuing blow-up, but it's hard not to side with EB. if she was supposed to approve the vid before it was published, and wasn't allowed to and felt violated by the leaked version, then she's in the right - period, regardless of other issues.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
"miiiiiindblowingly raaaaaadical" would be one thing, but competent would be nice?
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 June 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
yep
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Friday, 8 June 2012 03:49 (eleven years ago) link
Truly amazing.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 09:25 (eleven years ago) link
Why? A video in which the men are clothed and get to look dignified while the women are naked hyper-sexualised doesn't strike you as icky? Quite frankly I'm fine with uploading nude material without the subject's consent being a criminal offense.
― Jedmond, Friday, 8 June 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link
First of all, nobody looks "dignified" in that video. Regardless, Erykah Badu and The Flaming Lips collaborated on a music video where she, and/or her twin sister, sit nude in a tub and cover themselves with glitter, blood, and semen. As has been established, we DON'T KNOW the context of this fight. Talking about it as a question of consent is borderline irresponsible. My real groan, though, was at Lex's racial angle, which - with its suggestion of one-sided exploitation - is cheaper and more tawdry than anything either of the artists have engaged in.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
Re-read what you just wrote. Nobody looks dignified in the video. But I'll focus on describing the two women sitting nude in a tub and covering themselves with glitter, blood and semen.
And discussing it as a question of consent isn't borderline irresponsible, it's what this entire thing is about. This is what Badu alleges, and this is what Coyne concedes. That isn't Lex's only angle and hardly worth belatedly quoting as if it was immediately obvious that Lex's point was ludicrous. And the idea that Lex's comment is cheaper and more tawdry than that video is laughable.
― Jedmond, Friday, 8 June 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
What I want to know is where they got all that semen.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
I think that you finding the idea that Lex's comment is cheaper and more tawdry than that video laughable laughable. We'll all laugh about this someday! Except for that racist rapist. Lock 'im up!
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
Hmmm that's not what Lex said
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 8 June 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
No, you're right. The cheap and tawdry last part of my post was about a lot of posts. But this old white dude using black womens' bodies for publicity is just some flat out bullshit.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
How is that not what Coyne is doing?
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 June 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
Jesus Christ. My issue is with the racial angle in that post, and what it implies, which is unfounded and ugly. And if there's exploitation at play here, it's *overwhelmingly* mutual.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
― da croupier, Friday, 8 June 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know either party's motivation for collaborating, but can't imagine it was ever a cynical move (I mean, she says "I have not one need for publicity. I just love artistic dialogue" in her posts). Before this whole thing, both Erykah and Wayne were Tweeting things about admiring each other's work. But both always stood to gain from the collaboration itself (as both have gained from the ensuing drama). This isn't some Linda Lovelace/Ordeal thing - the issue is over the final cut of the video, and we still don't know the actual circumstances surrounding that.
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
that's nonsense, mr. galt. they both chose to work together on a song and video. while a cynic might choose to call that "mutual exploitation", it's probably more reasonable to simply describe it as artistic collaboration.
wayne made an x-rated video and seems to have dumped his "director's cut" to the internet without first consulting his collaborators, something he had allegedly promised to do. that's the act of one-sided exploitation alleged here: that wayne chose viral shit-stirring over respectful treatment of his partners in art, women who'd obviously put a lot of trust in him. if the semblances and allegations here are true, then wayne exploited and betrayed his collaborators in order to generate "buzz". the race and gender issues involved only make his actions seem all the more slimy.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
"nonsense" directed at your previous post. that last one more or less squares with my take on this.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
do agree that we don't really know what's going here.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
I really think people need to sit with the whole "race and gender" aspect of this for a while. Give it a good, long think. Consider whether that's a can of worms that you really think needs to be opened in this conversation. And then come back here and discuss those reasoned concerns when you've had, like, a week of nights to sleep on them.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
I totally agree with this! And the part about not really knowing what's going on here, which means I can't even sign on for things like wayne chose viral shit-stirring over respectful treatment of his partners in art, and especially not so confidently that I might also aggressively accuse the guy of anything sexist or racist. We have her rant, which has a bunch of weird contradictory stuff in it when taken with her Tweets, and we have Wayne's creepy RTing-everything policy. We don't know the story!!!!!
― Walter Galt, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, June 8, 2012 12:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well done that was exactly the most condescending way you could have put this
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really have a dog in this fight except i adore badu but can we get a moratorium on referring to the lived experience of race and gender as a "can of worms"
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
horseshoe, you could not have missed my point or misread my post any more profoundly. The "can of worms" refers specifically to the implications lex's post and more generally to people wantonly throwing around racist/sexist allegations. Your misreading is exactly why I thought I'd suggest people maybe take just a little time before broaching the subject from that angle.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
lol, deric, horseshoe totally understood what you were saying
― Mordy, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
maybe u don't understand what you were saying, tho?
o that must be it thank you for explaining my brain
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
lex's post was a little reckless, but i read your post as saying people should wait a week until they dare to bring up "the whole 'race and gender' aspect of this," this being a video of a naked black woman, possibly (definitely?) released to the internet without her consent. what part did i get wrong? we can't all be the sensitive readers that you clearly are.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
Arright, y'all can just go on down that road without me. I was trying to keep shit from turning real ugly itt, but that was probably a fool's errand.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
right it's lex that's being ugly
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
how is it "being ugly" to talk about what happened with an eye to race and gender?
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
This thread is now helping me to see just how unhelpful taking the position of devils advocate can be sometimes.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
actually, yeah. when u say that discussing race + gender is a 'can of worms,' i understand what you're saying - that you think that it has the potential to be a huge clusterfuck and you want ppl to be delicate when they discuss it. however, what you seem to be missing is that by making such a request you are inevitably telling ppl that concerns about race + gender in this situation are too much of a livewire to discuss - when for ppl effected by them, they are too much of a livewire not to discuss. that's what you don't understand about your own words.
― Mordy, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah i dont think race has really come into these arguments yet. But yeah if you want to put it into that context and make it about race, go on ahead. I think trust is like a 1000% more relevant topic here. Perhaps you should ask ex-Lips guitarist Ronald Jones, who is of African-American and Filipino descent.
It's still kind of stunning that the Lips responses are being perceived as cynical and calculated while Badu's are kind of accepted as fact. Nothing calculated at all about publicly declaring your artistic integrity and decrying colleagues as hacks?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
Perhaps you should ask ex-Lips guitarist Ronald Jones, who is of African-American and Filipino descent.
lol okay in a way i now wish no one had brought up race, too.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
she looks a spoiled brathe looks like an exploiting asshole
i kinda knew the first already. lips have been mostly annoying to me since soft bulletin. i came around to the realization that his wide-eyed wonder was really forced and cloying.
― bnw, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
horseshoe, your posts are a perfect illustration of why I made the suggestion that people maybe just stop and think a little before discussing this particular aspect of the issue. It doesn't take much for people to get heated and start attacking people and making unfounded accusations over stuff like this. Apparently, the very suggestion that people take a breath and maybe let their tempers cool a bit before diving into the discussion is, in and of itself, enough to light the powder keg. Believe me: it was never meant as any kind of edict or suggestion that those aspects shouldn't be discussed. I just didn't want to see the inevitable ramp-up to shit-flinging itt. Also believe that I'll be staying allll the way out of that particular conversation.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
That's a false binary; something can be 100% factual and still be calculated and/or cynical.
My takeaway from this is that fandom is a terrible thing that should be destroyed.
For someone who says he doesn't want to fan the fire, you wield an effective flamethrower.
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
nobody did any shitflinging except me as far as i can tell, and i only did it after your post. you might reconsider your posts-from-on-high-above-the-fray tone. or not. whatever.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
Sigh. I genuinely fail to understand why suggesting that people don't hastily post about a topic that we all know is going to get tempers flaring is such a controversial and flame-fanning position. But whatevs.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
you got that luxury to ignore a thing you dont like
― coal, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.partypacks.co.uk/images/products/product_64917_1_orig.jpg
"Sigh."
― Mordy, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
Where's that zombie's bacon?
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
it's a topic that is more than just a nuisance to some of us. dude, do you not hear what you sound like? i wish people would just shut up about race and gender all the time because it's boring/controversial/inconvenient for me!
xxp
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Because, to be blunt, your posts read like "now now, you people are being too sensitive, you'd better calm down before you hurt an innocent white man's feelings".
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
and one of those already got attacked on the internet!
― coal, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
let's not ever discuss race and gender in any context guys, you know how it offends those sensitive white dudes' sensibilities
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, i agree; it's boring as fuck to have to talk about exploitative dynamics in how black women's bodies are treated in 2012; as soon as the shit stops happening, people can stop talking about it.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
first they came for one of the flaming lips and then they came for a man who cared about hair
― coal, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
And away we go.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
since the topic was pretty dead before his contributions, i'm going to posit that deric was stealth trying to turn this into a race gender thread bc a) he feels strongly about the issue or b) he feels strongly about enjoying ilx clusterfucks
― Mordy, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
i know, right; i get the distinct sense i'm being played
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
or that i'm trapped in the bottle opener thread
also how was this shit not ugly BEFORE?
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
lex otm; i was trying to say that. i love when people make this rhetorical move. shitty, possibly racially charged thing that happened isn't the problem, the person naming the dynamic is the problem.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
I really, really, really do not enjoy ILX clusterfucks. It seriously makes me sad to see people taking potshots at other people, particularly when it degrades to the point of people making unfounded accusations of racism or sexism. My entire intention was to try to forestall that likelihood. Which, unsurprisingly, totally blew up in my face. Congratulations, though, because y'all totally made me feel like shit about about even trying to keep the peace!
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20111115&t=2&i=532818485&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=BTRE7AE14NJ00
just tryin to keep the peace
― Mordy, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
for what it's worth, deric, i'm not really interested in calling wayne coyne out as racist or sexist, but i think the history of exposing black women's bodies in the west without their consent might be relevant to this discussion. or not, but freaking out at the mention of it is uncalled for.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
also, seriously, how can you not talk about gender; it's a video of fully clothed men and a naked woman being jizzed on.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
well when you put it like that it just sounds tawdry and gross
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like these questions are separate from the discussion of coyne's and badu's bad behavior as twitter personalities. like, badu could be acting badly on twitter, and the release of the video could still be exploitative of her and her sister.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ OTM
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
weird way to spin this conversation. the issue here is not really the tone of each party's tweeted responses to this situation, but rather the content and release of the video itself. often, when people take risks in front of a camera, they do so only because they trust that the person behind the camera (and the person in the editing room) will respect them and their wishes when it comes time to make the results public. unless i've missed something, coyne & co. haven't denied badu's accusation that the video was released without her approval, and they haven't denied that she was guaranteed the right to refuse. that inclines me to at least tentatively accept her accusations as valid. if what she says is true, and if she feels violated as a result of the way she was treated, then i take her side without question.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
translation: horshoe's last post
― horseshoe, Friday, June 8, 2012 10:02 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm. even before i knew the full extent of the controversy over the video, i was bothered by its basic structure. not so much the erotic images of erykah and her sister, but the contrast between that material and the stupid, boring, risk-free shots of the band goofing around.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
― horseshoe, Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:38 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this was a high point in my life, can i just say
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
yeah all of horseshoe's last few posts otm
i kind of feel that whether coyne is "racist" or "sexist" is not the point, because cultural racism and sexism are not dependent on people's conscious motivations to exist, and failing to see the history of exploitation in this sort of imagery w/r/t both black female bodies and female bodies generally is the kind of unintelligent oversight that could only come from a white dude's privileged perspective.
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but the contrast to that is that coyne was naked (unerotically, admittedly and maybe obviously) in one of his own videos a while back. i dunno what his stance on casual nudity is, and i suspect he hasn't put much thought into the cultural distinction between male and female nudity, but it still adds a bit of a complication to the situation. (xp to contenderizer.) (also lex probably mostly otm there.)
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
reminds me of so many hack male artists whose entire art centres around unclothed women "because the female body is so beautiful and a work of art" zzzzzz
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
"because the female body is so beautiful and a work of art" jizzzzzz
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
This is kind of the point I was trying to make, although obviously in a completely ineffectual way. People have been making judgments itt about who was wronged by this on a professional level without fully understanding what had happened yet. Which is fine to discuss on a flip and gossipy level. If, however, the topic turns to discussions of sexual or racial exploitation, the conversation stands the risk of becoming really ugly if the tone remains flip and gossipy. My entire concern was with trying to do my little part in preventing that from happening. I never said it shouldn't be discussed, and I never said it was a boring or worthless topic of conversation.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
― Mordy, Friday, June 8, 2012 11:51 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there is that kinda "don't think about an elephant" thing
holy shit
i hadn't heard about this
i thought there was a new EB album announced or something :/
thing is with the lips, and i do love soft bulletin and embyronic a lot
but ultimately, i always got the vibe that those dudes were kinda just southern druggie dudes masquerading as artist you know? like not that they didn't do ART, but like i kinda feel like ultimately they are like way more frat dude redneck type of dudes than their little precious falsetto psych would suggest.
like i feel like they are one of those bands were some nerds would be oh i'd love to meet them and we'd talk about os mutantes until the sun came up and those dudes might just want to get wasted and get a BJ or something
not that i know em or anything but i dunno, just a vibe, so this isn't that surprising in a way
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
and for my fairly worthless 0.02, wayne comes off as a total fucking dick in this whole thing and i'm pretty flabbergasted than anyone who read this whole thread (as i just did) would think otherwise.
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
at this point the length of this argument has outpaced my interest in it but fyi:
I really think people need to sit with the whole "race and gender" aspect of this for a while. Give it a good, long think. Consider whether that's a can of worms that you really think needs to be opened in this conversation.
that's what you said. it might not have been what you meant, but give it a good, long think.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i don't know if he's racist or sexist or particularly care about him at all, but it was definitely a dick move on his part, whatever else it was
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
I made the mistake of following badu on twitter btw, jesus
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
my feed is like 75% fan rxns
I joined twitter a week ago
I should've joined a long time ago, w/in the week I've gone to a few otherwise unannounced shows
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
All right, enough from me, clearly. Peace out, ILX.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
also what is "dancing for chicken"??? it was never explained
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
You're a late adopter.
I'm dancing for chicken right now.
― Ima Pay Close Attention To Your Post (Doran), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
m@tt your display name is delightful
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
seconded.
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
u can turn off RTs by specific users
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
"Dancing for chicken" is a reference to the Hammer KFC commercial and is shorthand for black performers doing degrading things with racial overtones for quick buck
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
― horseshoe, Friday, June 8, 2012 12:32 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
aw thx :)
DJP - thanks for explaining that i saw the hammer video but it sounded like an older phrase to me
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
it may predate the video (the concept certainly does) but the video is basically that phrase come to life and broadcast across the country in the early 90s
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
Between horseshoe, contendo, and m@tt p much anything I want to say on this subject has been p much covered. Al 3 completely otm. The one thing I don't get is why every1 thinks bady is acting badly on Twitter
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
that's mostly because everyone acts badly on Twitter
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
thx lex
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know if she is or isn't and frankly she can do whatever she wants for the rest of her life as far as i'm concerned, but i understand there are people in the world less smitten with her than i. and she does on occasion say wack things. i don't understand how other people presume to evaluate whether she truly does feel violated as a woman, i will say.
― horseshoe, Friday, 8 June 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
song still sucks
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
there's a kind of blithe permission that certain people - particularly wealthy people - grant themselves. entitlement, after all, is a fairly predictable product of wealth and celebrity, attributes that seem to affirm the superiority of those who possess them. to be rich, successful, widely known and well-loved is to be reassured at every moment: "yes, it is you. you are better. you are different. you are allowed. the things you do and say are correct. the way you feel is proper. the universe conspires to open doors and light your way."
i suspect that this atmosphere of constant positive affirmation tends to breed an attitudinal condition that i sometimes think of as "aristocratic amorality". the possessors of wealth, station, celebrity and/or power have little reason to worry about the rules that govern right and wrong, good and bad behavior in the lives of "lesser" people. the evidence of the universe seems to suggest that good things come not from doing what is generally expected or approved, but rather from the pursuit of their own "extraordinary" passions. do what thou wilt, crowley 101...
to some extent, this is a good philosophy. social rules can be stifling, and much good comes from the dedicated pursuit of one's dreams. but heedless, thoughtless entitlement does engender some rather revolting behavior.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I was looking for specific examples of how Badu was acting needlessly entitled, but thx for the philosophical treatise :)
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
People are saying she's acting needlessly entitled because she posted her big kiss-off after the video had already been taken down. (Although I'm having a bitch of a time finding a straightforward timeline of this whole sequence of events.)
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
Oic ty
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
But wait: then how is her hate adding to hits?
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 8 June 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
i was speculating about the sort of entitlement that possibly inclined wayne to figure that his video was self-justifying on the basis of "ART, MAN", regardless of how anybody else might feel about it - including his collaborators. not saying anything about badu.
and i was thinking aloud more than trying to make a serious point of any kind.
― contenderizer, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
lol contendo, when people ask you for directions do you give them a treatise on how "north" became north?
― WHEY AHR MAH DREGUNS? (DJP), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
mea culpa, i do get carried away
― contenderizer, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
i often use this little "add a post" box as a thought bubble, and yeah i do that in real life too, elaborating ideas well past the point of immediate utility. it reflects a kind of entitlement, i suppose...
― contenderizer, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71P1N9M0WPL._SL500_AA300_.gif
― omar little, Friday, 8 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
― contenderizer, Friday, June 8, 2012 2:09 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
or self parody
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
at least you used your forces for good itt
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
10000 posts on this video & no-one has flagged up how half of it is a guy waving tinfoil around
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
this is many xxxposts
but i just thought of this quote from "Enter Naomi: SST and All That" by Joe Carducci that kinda sums up what i was trying to say about my gut feeling about the Flaming Lips....
so I'm paraphrasing, but this is pretty close...is some guy of another big hardcore band of that era is quoted as saying, "You know, you listened to these Black Flag records and heard all this pain and despair, then their van rolls up, and all these dudes jump out, saying, 'Dude, where are the chicks? let's get this happening!'"
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Nothing but LOVE! LOVE! LOVE! 4 ya, contenderizer
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
in the absence of any fav/hall of fame mechanic i would like to show my appreciation for this v elegant finisher
― ogmor, Friday, 8 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
dancing for chicken is something I believe Ice Cube said (which is ironic, in hindsight, but evs) about Hammer on a KFC commercial. It's just my go-to 'sellout' phrase. #oldtimer
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 9 June 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
if chicken could fly this place would be a dancefloor
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Saturday, 9 June 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
No fowl play then.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 9 June 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
jeez, when did NRO commenters start being allowed to post here
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
― horseshoe, Friday, June 8, 2012 1:24 PM (Yesterday)
feel like this sums up a point that otherwise wasn't being very well articulated earlier today during all the fun - the issue isn't with the twitter war (who cares) or even the 'concept' of the video itself, but rather with the fact that coyne's version of the video was allegedly released without badu's input in the editing process. the whole thing's pretty artless and i have a hard time imagining how they could have made a better video given the footage available, but considering the nature and themes central to the video, releasing it like that hangs badu and her dignity out to dry.
this doesn't definitively make coyne a racist or a sexist. but it's kind of impossible to understand the reaction by badu and presumably countless other people to the video without discussing the social injustices in which those reactions are inevitably grounded. and that's what this is about - why the disgust felt by many people, itt and otherwise, is justified. it was just a thoughtless and careless thing to do
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 04:46 (eleven years ago) link
you can KiSS MY Glittery ASS .
lmao
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
at issue seems to be whether badu was promised final approval of the video, in her message she says she was bu then later she says 'i always have been in the past' cause if not you filmed a glittery ass video and they released a glittery ass video, perfectly reasonable to criticize it if you think it sucks but you havent really been wronged
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
also i totally think itd totally be a good idea if deric haircare took a week of nights to sleep on each post hes considering making before he hits submit
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
a year out never hurts
― coal, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
Aw don't hate on the W. Haircare.
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 9 June 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
Seriously Deric if you hate ILX clusterfucks this was a weird choice of thread to get involved on.
The whole saga is a good example of why holding your hands up at the start and going "I fucked up and I'm sorry" is better than behaving like a passive-aggressive dick for ages, coralling your cheerleading fans, and then belatedly issuing an unconvincing apology. It's always kinda interesting how people deal with sudden bad publicity and Wayne Coyne, who has never had any bad publicity in like 20 years in the limelight, dealt with it really badly.
Difficult to see how Coyne doesn't come across as the principal dick in this whole episode.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
even the 'concept' of the video itself
eh. the video is gross imo.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, badu might be as responsible for the concept, such as it is, as coyne, but it is inessential at best, gross at worst.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
/prude
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i don't disagree with that, it seemed pretty bad and artless, but i'm assuming for the sake of argument that badu signed on because she thought she could make it worthwhile somehow. releasing it without her having a hand in it deprived her of that chance, or the chance to ask that it not be released
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
she explains why she did it despite being uncomfortable with it from the start - he'd spent money on sudio time etc, + "i didn't wanna kill your concept, wanted u to at least get it out of your head" - this is just part of the collaborative artistic process, merely filming a scene doesn't mean you're effectively consenting for it to be released at all.
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
haha as a lifelong erykah devotee it makes me feel better that she was uncomfortable with the "concept." because it is dumb.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
Also Coyne was involved in this similar video (with a crowd instead of nudity) for another Oklahoma band last year, so the gunk side of things is a very unoriginal grossness: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdXrvhMEQeU
― if, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
unless you have an explicit agreement that states otherwise filming something for someone elses project does in fact constitue consent - what you think every person in any video gets a copy sent to them and signs off on it, every actor gets final cut of a movie
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
How are Badu fans reconciling her seemingly supportive/excited Tweets during the production of the song & video - even, seemingly, up to the original release of the video - with her remorseful later take?
― She Got the Shakes, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
she obvs didnt like how it turned out, which is fair
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't really been following anything on twitter, but she probably just saw the video and was like, ew.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
idk what it says abt her claims to be have been uncomfortable w/the concept from the beginning, i havent read all those tweets either
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
also, i am a Badu fan, but i'm not really interested in defending every tweet she posted about this controversy. i am interested in joining her army, should she ever start one, and general badu-directed devotion.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
i am with horseshoe in the badu militia
badu is a queen tbh and i don't understand anyone who does not see this
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
so if this army has to at some point defend particular tweets will you then decide yr loyalty on a tweet by tweet basis, kinda capricious imho
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
haha i realized the contradiction as i typed, but i, like badu, contain multitudes.
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
I truly think that the whole 'victim' angle here (which has seemingly come more from Badu's fans' projections than her own take on the story) is almost as creepy as anything Coyne may have or may have not done. Those kind of superfan comments suggest it wouldn't actually be possible to have any real discussion on it, though.
― She Got the Shakes, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrom6upz9g1qc1vfso1_250.gif
badu militia
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
looks like more of a cult tho tbh, fine line
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of don't care about anyone's shit but the product I think
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
like while you're alive just do whatever you have to do to put whatever work you have out there and then die, I think idk know tho
I have never, philosophically, made sausage tho so idk idk
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, June 9, 2012 1:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if you think about turning back, i got the shotgun on your back
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
do not mean to be suggesting harriet tubman was a cult leader btw :/
uh oh im having a dissertation
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
badussertation
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
ah fuck harriet tubman wiki what a horrible fuckin world
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2lmg2Rrg51qgcra2o1_r1_500.gif
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
i don't want to have to eliminate you jho
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
and thus it begins
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
also look how pretty she is!
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
she is v v pretty
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
haha i remember when baduizm first came out, and before i'd heard it at all i saw her being interviewed on mtv and she was talking, vaguely and flakily, i thought, about "baduism" as some kind of inspirational spirituality, and i found her super-irritating and was like this lady is wack. little did i know...
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
it bothers me when people wear turbans that cover part of their eyebrows tho
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
resistance is futile
― horseshoe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ljew4A9d1qgcra2o1_400.gif
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
behaving like a passive-aggressive dick for ages, coralling your cheerleading fans, and then belatedly issuing an unconvincing apology.
is this about wayne coyne or me getting 51'd last year?
― calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
lol #teamwhiney
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
the concept is i drown you and your sister in a bathtub, k?
― bnw, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ this is otm btw
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
Point missed slyly
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
merely filming a scene doesn't mean you're effectively consenting for it to be released at all.
Actually, it does, unless you have a contract that explicitly states otherwise. Which I would have, if I were getting filmed naked and covered with goo.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
one can always dream
― lag∞n, Saturday, 9 June 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
the real tragedy itt is how many of you guys totally could have been erykah badu's lawyer
― Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Saturday, 9 June 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
.....”Oh really, Mr. Coyne, if that's true how do you explain THIS?” *dramatically whips out a signed contract giving Erykah Badu final approval of video*
Judge: ”Officer, take this man into custody, sentencing in two weeks”
*Erykah tearfully hugs me*
B b b b boing
*jay electronica glowers in back of courtroom*
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 10 June 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
Jay Elec is presumably too busy tapping Rothschild pussy to get mad about anything involving Erykah at the moment.
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7lbY-THNHc
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 August 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
I think flying lotus has an incredible track record when it comes to producing tracks for women to sing on (tea leaf dancers I think is prob the best), but this seems kinda lackluster idk
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 17 August 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
whenever I happen to find that one elpee of his I play tea leaf dancers like 20 times
Haha "Shit I really liked the version of that song we did with Erykah Badu, but who can replace her, who is not going to be angsty about the nakedness and unconcerned about looking like a dick for replacing Erykah?"
"AW YEAH AMANDA PALMER!"
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 25 August 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link
If you love The Flaming Lips you might enjoy my band Connoisseurs of Porn.
― a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Saturday, 25 August 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
wtf
― The muted sensation feels amazeballs. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 25 August 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
there needs to be an entire genre of music that takes 'out my mind, just in time' as its launchpad
avant-prog r&b that features motherfucking *songwriting*, it's like where ilm and i finally converge and seek a better tomorrow
listening to it right now i'm convinced it must be one of the best songs of the last 10 years
fwiw 'return of the ankh' hit me way harder than 'nu amerykah' in general
― imago, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
she's just uploaded some new cannabinoids stuff: https://soundcloud.com/the-cannabinoids
― SOYLENT GREEN IS SHEEPLE (stevie), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
I've never been able to get past thinking "Out My Mind" is just a much weaker take on "Green Eyes" :/
― The Reverend, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
finding that song *right now*
― imago, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
None of those Cannabinoid uploads are new. They used to have another account or something. I think the newest thing - the Jaffe remix - is from September or October. The others are last spring or older.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:22 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeahsome of it's nice & all
― imago, Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:22 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is probably the nicest way around in which to hear them
― rockism against racism (schlump), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Sunday, January 27, 2013 7:22 PM
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
idk, out my mind is still winning for me - looser, jazzier, weirder, more sublimely psychedelic, more flowed-together, more interesting tune(s)
but bear in mind i've heard omm(jit) upwards of 10x, and bear also the subjectivity of these things. also don't underestimate the 'first one heard preference' syndrome
― imago, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ hearing green eyes filling the fourteen minutes between yr posts
― rockism against racism (schlump), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
'i want you', to complete the badu marathon trifecta, is much more promising thus far - krautrockish r&b crescendo, love it
― imago, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, "I Want You" might be my favorite Erykah song.
― The Reverend, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
whoa, that ending came out of nowhere! yeah, very, very awesome song.
― imago, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
I think "Didn't Cha Know" is my favorite.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
i eat a lot of vegetables
― an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 January 2013 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Monday, 28 January 2013 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
seconded
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2013 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
Beyond structure and girth, there is a world of difference between "Green Eyes" and "Out My Mind." One is nostalgic/throwback to complement her romantic recidivism. The other is, as pointed out, fractured avant nonsense, the perfect accompaniment to her clearly premature optimism about walking away.
I think they're both great, tho, as is "I Want You."
I don't dislike anything she's done.
Except the Cannabinoids shit.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
Ankh is def the FFF to 4th World War's Innervisions, but I still give the edge to 4WW.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 28 January 2013 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
I held to the line that Out My Mind was just a boring Green Eyes retread for a long time, until I heard LJ rhapsodizing about OMM on the 2010 tracks poll
― every dog latin has his day (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 28 January 2013 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
'a long time'
"and I'll hate you too if you want me to"
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 28 January 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=7YrvzRN-U2c
― Even by Zales standards, that's sad. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 February 2013 07:46 (eleven years ago) link
local club shows doing Baduizm and Mama's Gun sold out so quick. grrrr
― curmudgeon, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
Her birthday blow-out is next week but I have to work a show across town. Grr.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
She hasn't played London in months. Grr.
― SOYLENT GREEN IS SHEEPLE (stevie), Friday, 22 February 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
I live nowhere close to anywhere she plays ever grr
― harvester of lols (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
(that might not actually be true)
(grr)
― harvester of lols (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
mama's gun in full wow
― schlump, Friday, 22 February 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://potholesinmyblog.com/janelle-monae-q-u-e-e-n-f-erykah-badu/
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 06:40 (eleven years ago) link
Rich Juzwiak interview:
http://gawker.com/erykah-badu-loves-you-a-conversation-with-the-artist-512360811
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 June 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
so yesterday my daughter wanted to listen to Return of the Ankh. I said sure. then she asked me if Erykah really did fall in love with Superman.
― Bathory Tub Blues (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
Digesting this:
Erykah: Every now and then, you can hear someone who’s able to do that and that changes the course of what’s happening. We all follow along.Rich: Prince.Erykah: Drake.
Rich: Prince.
Erykah: Drake.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 June 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
drake love will confound me 4eva
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
That part made me very, very sad.
Loved the rest of it tho
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
xp me too, but it does seem like he's helped to shift the direction of pop/hip-hop/r&b in the last couple years, fbofw
― i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
Friend on FB who is a Drake fan agrees with that but admits Kanye probably makes more sense as a comparison point there. But hey, she likes who she likes.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 June 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
the BAM show was sweet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXRO_T2g3jw
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/78517188.htmli should probably feel worse about laughing at the tootsie roll pop linehttp://i.imgur.com/VCBCwOG.png
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 June 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/GtlT7yC.png
― ogmor, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
PUT DOWN THE VINE AND RELEASE A NEW ALBUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
I really wanted this revive to be even the slighest hint of such.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
maybe iz new album artwork?
(...gah....)
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
that would be horrendous though, even if the music was solid gold.
uuuugh
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/may/01/erykah-badu-accused-of-supporting-swaziland-ruler-king-mswati-iii
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 May 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
"all the money that I got from the trip I gave to all the servants in the house."
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
i am reminded of an ancient tradition, going back to plato
in which artists are crazy idiots
who you should never assume have any idea about anything
even if their art makes them sound like they do
― j., Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:05 (nine years ago) link
...
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
well it's either that or moral monster dazzled by proximity to power and wealth, take your pick
― j., Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
celebs are dum dums but are you suggesting we shouldnt call tehm out for it
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
no, just that we be less sad about it
because damn
― j., Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
we can't decide how we feel.
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
"U on Twitter tho, oppressing me"
okay lol
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link
that's the part where i was just like
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 May 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
it's funny in itself but as a response to "I'm a Swazi and directly affected by mswati's oppression" it's even better
― marcos, Thursday, 1 May 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
marcos you are a true badass
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 May 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link
The things humans do when they realize they've done something wrong are amusing and pathetic even when not in the public eye.
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 May 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/fatbellybella/status/461898793374728192wooooof
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
yeah i unfollowed erykah over this. not the swaziland thing, but how dumb she seems about everything else
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link
― socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 May 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
PUT DOWN THE VINE TWITTER AND RELEASE A NEW ALBUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!― Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:54 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 May 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
:( at all this
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
I saw the initial wave but surprised to see she kept going w/ all this
― ogmor, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link
ugh wtf Erykah
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link
it's always seemed to me like she's only on twitter to zing people
― some dude, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
she's only on twitter to zing victims of human rights abuses
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 2 May 2014 13:02 (nine years ago) link
tbf that's why everyone is on Twitter
― chillin' on an "awesome pretzel" hoagie (DJP), Friday, 2 May 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
http://www.vocativ.com/culture/celebrity/ultimate-tyrant-tour-africa/
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 May 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
You don't say.
http://www.facebook.com/erykahbadu/posts/10152510846441554
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
she really should!
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
x 2
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 May 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
Among other more obvious things, a manager would make sure albums get out a little more often than once every 5 years.
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 May 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
What was that? It's down now.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 29 May 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
Bragging about never having had a manager in her whole career (which I don't even know if I buy but).
― Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 May 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
got a ticket to see her with pharrell
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 29 May 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
Kedar surely played a manager-type role circa Baduizm
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 29 May 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYjuEPYzdgU
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 June 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
loooool
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 June 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
http://lh3.ggpht.com/q36NimezZvrJmsO4UT6qNoeUWDaYHaanX97BTbNFJoDQox6aOWQo-mdLFSN4_VX7m7Ne4-wYk1BTNN217hI=s996
― schlump, Monday, 30 June 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link
Fuck Jill Scott. She's the smiling, fat black lady that sings about love and non threatening things.
― chaki, Friday, July 20, 2001 8:00 PM (13 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wow
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 October 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link
yeah, fuck black artists who arent edgy or scary!
― StillAdvance, Monday, 6 October 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
she should be skinny and angry
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Monday, 6 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
"she should be Michelle Obama"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 October 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
Wait, was that chaki post a surprise?
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Monday, 6 October 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link
don't unban chaki
― Mordy, Monday, 6 October 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
Ha, someone just posted this on my feedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jObonJzJZG0
― tsrobodo, Monday, 6 October 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link
I feel like that's pretty much the same critical argument I've read time and again about artists like Corinne Bailey Rae. It's okay to just dislike someone's music without expressing your dislike in terms of how that artist failed to live up/down to some nebulous cultural expectation you harbor in your bigoted mind. It's exceptionally gross.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
All of those critiques/complaints read to me like some people are PISSED that there are black middle-class musicians
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link
reminder of how many ilxors used to love chaki and would never ever ever call him out
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link
what a fucking cunt who needed a severe beatdown tho, right? i hope he got it.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP)
This was a repulsive strain in a lot of eighties criticism of black pop (Vandross, Baker, Jackson). They couldn't be Prince hence were suspect.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link
it's still pretty common now!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link
jill scott is terribly underratedlong as we're on this diversion, i barely remember this entering the conversation but one of the fappening pics was hers and her response was impressively above the frayhttps://twitter.com/missjillscott/status/507503268541394945more discussion here (and in a too much time on ilx double header, this article is by the jazzsplaining guy)http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/05/after-naked-photo-hack-white-feminists-ignore-jill-scott/
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link
Greil Marcus quote from the eighties:
“I think Anita Baker is ridiculous. Any time you hear somebody bringing back this kind of genteel, effete black music--the same number the Pointer Sisters pulled in the early '70s when they gave concerts with ‘Black Tie Recommended’ printed on the tickets--it's an incident in class politics that has nothing to do with music."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
rock critics HAAAAAATED neo-soul. erykah got out bc she's ostentatiously weird but jill scott, angie stone let alone india arie got zero respect.
THE MORAL OF THIS STORY IS THAT ROCK CRITICS AIN'T SHIT obviously. let no one refer to greil marcus as a respected authority again
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link
also can we literally cut the dicks off everyone involved in the "fappening"
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link
this thread has me replaying words and sounds v 1 so that's good
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
well greil marcus is also a misogynist imo, which doubles up on things
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link
genteel, effete black music
Uh?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link
Lex have you really always been into neo soul like that? I don't remember you posting about it all that often
Critics generally liked neo soul is my recollection but I was probably not reading the same critics. I did have a knee jerk neo soul is overrated period that was very ilm inspired but more a result of ilm enabling my "no reason to feel guilty about..." W/ more pop oriented r&b which was obv super exciting at the time. It's weird to think about now bc I was a big fan of Jill Scott and "a long walk" was on mix tapes when I was a college freshman... I mean I thought Macy gray was the shit in high school and in part for rockist reasons (she also had a cool voice though)
My hating on neo soul period was brief bc then I got a girlfriend and found pop r&b didn't really speak to that as well as grown folks r&b did. Or something. At any rate I was really into dwele
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 06:39 (nine years ago) link
Dwele <3
― I pray my drick get big as the Eiffel Tower (Spottie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 07:16 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxGkLOY0lwI
(((d-_-b)))
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 07:59 (nine years ago) link
As a rock critic who has been writing about these neo-soul artists for a decade and change and who, until I started working for MOJO, was banging my head against a wall with regards to getting them substantial coverage, the main kickback I used to get from editors was that they didn't think these artists were "interesting" enough, which I think is doubtless a permutation of what Dan says above, about how middle class black artists are considered by magazine editors (who are often from considerably more privileged backgrounds) to not be "real" enough. The example of this that still sticks in my craw is when I was pitching Mos Def, circa his first album, to an editor who replied "We hate him, we hate 'mummy's boy' rappers." I mean, Mos Def is hardly even middle class! He grew up on the same housing project as Biggie!! But if you're not selling drugs or shooting people then you aren't "real", as far as these chodes are concerned.
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 08:29 (nine years ago) link
Also, really gladdened to see positive mention of Corinne Bailey Rae here, as I think she is wholly underrated.
Also, I almost picked up an Anita Baker album at a charity shop the other day but didn't. Am regretting it now. Did I fuck up? I love Sweet Love.
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 08:37 (nine years ago) link
biggie didnt grow up in housing projects fyi
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 09:41 (nine years ago) link
ack i meant jay z - marcy projects.
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 09:43 (nine years ago) link
corrine bailey rae's closer is/was one of the best neo soul songs of the past decade.
im not sure critics have ever really gotten erykah. its funny how dangelo has now become so rated outside the usual R&B/rap circles, cos i dont remember it being quite so unanimous back in 2000, but its nice to see. erykah however, i think still isnt quite there, even in spite of flaming lips endorsements etc. maybe dangelo just fits the old soulman model they are more comfortable with whereas erykahs precedents (minnie ripperton, betty davis, etc etc) are maybe more obscure to most rock crits.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 09:49 (nine years ago) link
"if you're not selling drugs or shooting people then you aren't "real", as far as these chodes are concerned."
the opposite also holds true somewhat, or used to much more at least (see: michael franti), with critics who prefer the likes of idk, ghostpoet or lupe than rick ross or waka flocka flame. but i think when neo soul was really peaking, back in the mid-late 90s, i think most critics here, would have been like 'its not real R&B' or futuristic enough (cos yknow, R&B and black music is only good for that). like when simon reynolds drew a binary rza (boring, trad, staid, etc) in the late 90s and what timbo and missy were doing.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 09:52 (nine years ago) link
*drew a a binary between
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 09:53 (nine years ago) link
tbh most critics i know are wild badu fans but that could be the circles i run in
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 09:58 (nine years ago) link
since the first amerykah album, sure, but when she made mamas gun, or baduizm? i only remember her getting raves from R&B/rap critics
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:04 (nine years ago) link
i think in the uk, most rock/pop critics had bad desree flashbacks (fwiw, i did not mind desree!)
Definitely Mama's Gun and Worldwide Underground
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:10 (nine years ago) link
i wasn't on ilm in the late 90s! but actually, that was when i was still young enough to be influenced by rock critics, who all told me neo-soul was boring, so i actually didn't check out a lot of the key albums til much later.
yeah this is otm, new amerykah - being all Political and Weird and all those bullshit reasons for credibility so beloved by critics - changed her standing among UK critics a lot. (i don't mean all critics, just most mainstream ones.)
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:35 (nine years ago) link
presented without comment http://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/apr/01/erykah-badu-new-amerykah-part-two
yeah even I think the straight soul stuff on new amerykah 2 is awesome. dunno then how petridis is even capable of forming such opinions
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:38 (nine years ago) link
anyone else in the 2 > 1 camp btw? it's close but
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:39 (nine years ago) link
they're different flavours, i can't really decide which is best. they're both best.
― You've been yelped (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:42 (nine years ago) link
not read that review, but vol 2 was her doing what she can do in her sleep, just not as well as she has done previously IMO :|
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:50 (nine years ago) link
― A college wearing a sweater that says “John Belushi” (stevie),
You fucked up but you can still repent. Buy it.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:57 (nine years ago) link
Thank Alfred - repent I shall!
― You've been yelped (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link
Love Eryka, love Corinne, love Anita, love Goapele, Van Hunt, Dionne Farris, and many of their other "lame" contemporaries. Anyone who's carrying the torch of '70s r&b/soul/funk with competence and style is okay by me.
I think much of this issue boils down to fear of admitting appreciation of an artist one might hear in Starbucks. And bigotry, obvs.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link
I think I remember Badu getting decent coverage in MOJO late 90s, substantial live reviews etc
How it is possible to come to the conclusion that Anita Baker is "ridiculous", whatever you think of the music? JFC
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:38 (nine years ago) link
i feel like the schism we're talking about still exists -- a lot of great ballad-driven 'upscale' R&B coming out these days (Marsha Ambrosius, Toni Braxton & Babyface, etc.) but a lot of critics and music people only care about the hip hop-ish stuff like Ty Dolla $ign etc
― some dude, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link
gets no better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjn8QZmyPlk
― piscesx, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link
Condescending to young black female singers is the easiest thing in the world, and because their forbears aren't mythologized like Nirvana or the Clash, white kids don't grow up appreciating them.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link
This one did, fwiw.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 7 October 2014 13:17 (nine years ago) link
it's not just critics, though; when I was a teen in the late 80s/early 90s Anita Baker songs, Sade, "Piano in the Dark", and so on, were mainstays on top 40 radio. a few years later, "On & On", "Killing Me Softly", and so on. nowadays if I want to hear e.g. "Hurt You" I can't hear it on pop radio. I know there are a zillion threads about this but as a non-critic I want to hear this music like I used to, without delving into specific genre radio etc.
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, it's a little sad that I've had to be plugged into ILM to discover artists like Teedra Moses who could've easily made their mark on the charts twenty years ago.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 13:32 (nine years ago) link
I can't resist quoting from that Petredis review:
"Her attention has shifted from barricades to boudoir."
And comparing neo-soul to Ocean Colour Scene, Cast, and other nobodies that constituted the "second wave" of Britpop.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link
this inspired me to listen to new amerykah pt 2 which i'd kinda forgotten to check out...anyway....check out her "related artist" tab on Spotify....one of these things is not like the other
http://s7.postimg.org/halp41icr/baduspotify.jpg
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
Tho I think the first Nu AmErykah is the better album, I think I'm listening to pt. 2 way more often than pt. 1 these days truth be told.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 7 October 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
DJP, 100% not surprised that it was chaki who said it! posted because it's always weird to go back to old ilx shit and see how often sentiments like that go unchecked, or little-checked
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link
there's difft levels of 'indefensible shit we said in days bygone' but I still cannot entirely credit chaki with that, my god
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link
xp: there were like 5 ppl upthread, including myself, who were all "shut up, chaki"?
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
i know, it just seems like now it would be a huge pile on!
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
also possibly a separate clusterfuck thread!
i feel like also the numbers were smaller then, so a few posts did actually denote a pile-on
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
the tenor of the discussion here has certainly changed over the past ten years ye
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
i remember just a few years ago, when i was image-bombing the "would smash" threads, a moderator went to my personal facebook and used a picture of me to replace the pictures i had posted, making it hilariously look like people were being grossed out by my face and body! i feel like that might not happen in this current atmosphere, and i am really thankful for that, too. :)
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
yea ws threads in general seem frowned upon these days, right? maybe not the vintage one, which seemed like it had a friendlier spirit anyways
― marcos, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
idk. it is embarrassing to think about now.
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
there are still a lot of gross threads like that getting bumped often enougheg fitness chicks
n-e-way love erykah & jill scott, always have
― King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
"We wanted a video that spoke to Badu's eclecticism. Those album covers represent all the influences that she embodies."[6] Albums covers that were recreated in the video are those of:[5]
Rufus featuring Chaka Khan (1975) by RufusBlue (2006) by Diana RossMaggot Brain (1971) by FunkadelicPaid in Full (1987) by Eric B. & RakimHoney (1975) by Ohio PlayersPerfect Angel (1975) by Minnie RipertonChameleon (1976) by Labelle3 Feet High and Rising (1989) by De La SoulLet It Be (1970) by The BeatlesIllmatic (1994) by NasPhysical (1981) by Olivia Newton-JohnNightclubbing (1981) by Grace JonesHead to the Sky (1973) by Earth, Wind & Fire
i really love that Physical is one of the records.
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
haha yes!
― You've been yelped (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
they are all great records tbf
theres a good moment in chappelles block party movie where iirc erykah does a kind of eye roll while jill scott is on stage...
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
erykah and jill scott forming like volition during that heavy psych version of You Got Me is perhaps my favourite music movie moment of all time.
― You've been yelped (stevie), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
i remember some posters getting mocked for objecting to the WS threads at the time, just saying
on topic, these posts are otm
― some dude, Tuesday, October 7, 2014 12:43 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, October 7, 2014 1:07 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and fyi that toni braxton & babyface album some dude mentions is one of the albums of the year, just wonderful stuff
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
I should check that out. For the longest time, I dismissed Babyface because I don't really care for him as a performer until I realized (somewhat recently) that he'd had a hand in the bulk of the '80s/'90s R&B that I loved.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link
I remembered that as an approving eyeroll. Like a "can you believe she's this good" eyeroll.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
totally!
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
I don't disagree with the former examples but the latter is your personal axe grinding, If he's getting critical attention it's basically from ilx ppl or a reflection of his pretty significant mainstream pop success. I mean he wrote one of the year's biggest songs, came up with the biggest producer in hip hop, and collaborates with a huge cross section of artists. Are you really surprised he's gotten more attention than artists without top 40 singles? And the notion that he gets blanket critical respect is pretty distorted too, fader cover or no it's not like his tapes have gotten blanket praise from critics, most of whom haven't been afraid to mention misogyny or criticize his reliance on guest artists
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
A better example of popular r&b with critical acclaim is Beyoncé or frank ocean
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
(Never mind that Ty is a producer/songwriter/singer, which gives him a level of auteur status none of those artists have but I don't even think that's translated to much crit love regardless)
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
I see where D-40 has hung his hat now that Gucci is in jail
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
A lot of what's happening itt is, I think, insurgent critical perspectives have become institutional ones in a way they hadn't been. We now live in an era where Aaliyah is on the cover of wax poetics... I remember saying I liked Aaliyah in college and having r&b heads tell me I was crazy.
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, October 7, 2014 1:32 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There are like 40 different artists this fka twigs fanboard has tried to say I was obsessed w over the past few years it is weird
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
How many bat for lashes stans tried to clown me for saying Gucci was an important artist that haven't pulled out "Daniel" in four years
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
anyway to get back on topic there was a rockist angle to a lot of the ways that ppl argued for neo soul at the time—return to 'soulfulness' obsession w/ the past fetishization of 'organic' sounds... at some level the critique was right. it's funny to hear:
back in the mid-late 90s, i think most critics here, would have been like 'its not real R&B' or futuristic enough (cos yknow, R&B and black music is only good for that). like when simon reynolds drew a binary rza (boring, trad, staid, etc) in the late 90s and what timbo and missy were doing.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, October 7, 2014 4:52 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
like, i was coming to this board from the opposite side, and this focus on futurism etc was new to me and refreshing (not talking about chaki's post, obv)—the idea of listening to R&B from this pop POV was alien to most music writing I'd ever read ... you ask the average R&B critic what was good and they'd be like oh the classisist stuff ("cos yknow, R&B and black music is only good for that"). its a relentless chase for an authenticity that doesn't exist.
i don't doubt there are stereotypes at play whenever people are endorsing or dissing any partic R&B style (esp when they do it like THAT). But it's funny to watch this discussion yo-yo like this.
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
by 'the critique was right' i am certainly not talking about chaki's post nb
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
actually, i have to admit, back in the late 90s i was also on the 'neo soul is what more R&B artists should be making! why are people thinking timbaland is better than dangelo and erykah badu?! why doesnt k-ci make a whole record like if you think youre lonely now?!?!'. that wasnt so much rockist (and to put everything down as rockist actually just feeds rockism) as hip-hopist, that idea that 'real' musicians = 'real' R&B/soul (real basically meaning old/60s/70s) like what you heard on old samples etc. but in fairness, a lot of baduizm and brown sugar werent just revivalism, they sounded like the 90s. there were no samplers being used on 70s records. ali shaheed made brown sugar sound like a hip hop record. the idea that it was just like a black american britpop doesnt quite work as it always sounded of the time (voodoo and mamas gun came later, and were much more traditional, but who cares). so yeah, relentless chase for a non existent authenticity sounds about right. but hey, playing music tribes can be fun.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
erykah busking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsQY8lqFScM
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
She's posted a soul mix over on mixcloud a couple days back here.
― Daylight M, Monday, 27 July 2015 09:24 (eight years ago) link
just came here to say that return of the ankh is amazing and is just making me feel really good right now, i love this album so much
― marcos, Thursday, 30 July 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link
We're not officially in the longest wait between Badu albums since the beginning.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Thursday, 30 July 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link
not NOW
thx for the heads up daylight
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link
We're now officially in the longest wait between Badu albums since the beginning.
― Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Thursday, 30 July 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
she's touring tho
― chaki (kurt schwitterz), Thursday, 30 July 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link
I thought she was just doing DJ tours
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
nah full live show at the warfield coming up soon, shakey!
― chaki (kurt schwitterz), Thursday, 30 July 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
waaaaaht
I kinda hate that place but that's tempting
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/erykah-she-ill-badu/hot-line-bling-but-u-caint-use-my-phone-mix
― crime breeze (schlump), Friday, 2 October 2015 04:08 (eight years ago) link
singing colbie caillat on facebook remains the best badu jukebox moment of the past year imo
― some dude, Friday, 2 October 2015 05:02 (eight years ago) link
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link
god i love erykah
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link
that link is... 2 posts up
― just sayin, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link
hm, thought that was something different off the caint use my phone mixanyways, it bears repeating
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link
yes to the hotline bling refix (old news obv), not too sure about "phone down"
― art baengels (monotony), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link
sounds like a demo -- it's missing, I don't know, a verse, middle eight?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link
I did not like "phone down" at all - thin, tinny, plus autotune, not playing to her strengths
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link
jfc some grotesque shit posted itt way back, kind of fucked to know some of those people are still posting
― marcos, Thursday, 12 November 2015 00:02 (eight years ago) link
i said hella dumb shit in this thread. really stupid thinking back then.
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 November 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link
i love how hypnotic "phone down" is
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 12 November 2015 06:18 (eight years ago) link
i need to take some time with thishttp://blaecny.com/music/mixtapes-albums/erykah-badu-but-you-caint-use-my-phone-mixtape/
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2015 08:06 (eight years ago) link
SQUIRRRRRRLLLLLLLLL
― lex pretend, Saturday, 28 November 2015 09:56 (eight years ago) link
oh shit £10? itunes you are rinsing us britishers
― I don't have the time or energy to make a counterargument (stevie), Saturday, 28 November 2015 10:45 (eight years ago) link
got through it three times and this is frankly brilliant
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
i mean, as with all things, i still wish drake wasn't on itbut he's fairly benign here
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link
it's not Drake, it's a Drake soundalike who is signed to Erykah's label, very weird corny publicity stunt
her voice is always a joy to hear and obviously this is a tossed-off minor work by design, but it really is little more than a "songs about phones" listicle aside from the Andre 3k song
― just knocked me cold and left me on the sidewalk (some dude), Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link
?mixtape lists tracks as "feat Drake"
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link
also listicles can be brilliant too
http://pitchfork.com/news/62273-erykah-badu-mixtape-out-now-features-andre-3000/
― just knocked me cold and left me on the sidewalk (some dude), Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
That IS weird. The guy on the track is tapping AS drake , like in persona, so I dunno what they were thinking
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link
it's bizarre but pretty funny imo
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 November 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link
this tape is super fun and great
― marcos, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link
drake impersonator is hilarious, wtf is going on there
also i think her hotline bling remix is legitimately great, this kind of detached slightly melancholic spaciness intrinsic to the song just works really well in erykah's style imo
― marcos, Monday, 30 November 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
not heard the new tape but i love the drake semi-remake/version/do-over/whatever. was weird to hear her on the zane lowe show though. not heard her speak for so long, so kinda shocking in a way to hear just how spaced out she is, talking about 'downloading life'.
actually more than hearing that she seems even more new agey than i remember (obviously i know this is a 'duh' moment, it was weird to think that erykah is getting *old*. i think shes on that cusp of sounding slightly out of touch. which i wouldnt actually mind. im up for hearing badu start doing standards and what not. lol.
― StillAdvance, Monday, 30 November 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, she'd do a good set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fwm5H3VpQw
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link
Musically it's a watered down version of her last album (and that was five years ago), plus it's basically erykahraoke and while her voice is still great it's all a bit ehhhhhh.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 30 November 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
nu amerykah was basically a mixtape anyway, so im surprised this is her first proper official Mixtape.
i think shes not that interested in writing songs how she used to. she might want to get off the internet a little bit longer. cos it sounds like shes pretty addicted to it.
― StillAdvance, Monday, 30 November 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link
obviously this is a tossed-off minor work by design
yeah, I presume she rushed to record it in the past two months after her Drake remix got such a good reception. it's a fun trifle tho.
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 November 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
the upside of never really giving hotline bling much of a chance is that when i listen to this, i can pretend it's the canonical version and like it unreservedly
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 November 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
its what mixtapes are meant to be though, i think, i.e. not virtual albums, just covers, some demos, some experiments, kind of like an odds and ends thing, that shows a side to someone you wouldnt get on their album.
drakes version of HLB is still king though - erykahs version is very much in her manner, but it lacks the lilt and playfulness of drake's.
― StillAdvance, Monday, 30 November 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link
nu amerykah was basically a mixtape anyway
come again?
― k3vin k., Monday, 30 November 2015 21:39 (eight years ago) link
presume they meant Worldwide Underground?
― Number None, Monday, 30 November 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
yeah that was a bizarre statement
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLeCB7Kn-VE
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link
http://www.vibe.com/2015/11/dawn-richard-transforms-adeles-hello-on-latest-cover/
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePoi0_zSnYk
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2015 04:30 (eight years ago) link
So this really is a whole album about phones, isn't it?
― Fetty Wap Is Strong In Here (cryptosicko), Friday, 4 December 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
i don't understand why either of those are in this thread. what does Adele have to do w/ Erykah. (xp)
― just knocked me cold and left me on the sidewalk (some dude), Friday, 4 December 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
just songs about phones you know
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2015 04:38 (eight years ago) link
'erykah makes a phone themed mix tape' why are you guys side-eyeing the one gift god has given us in these rotten daysjust seeing the words 'erykah makes a phone themed mix tape' gives me hope
― social justice warriors... come out to play (Abbott), Friday, 4 December 2015 05:17 (eight years ago) link
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2015 05:27 (eight years ago) link
abbott otmmmmmmmmmm
― marcos, Friday, 4 December 2015 07:09 (eight years ago) link
i kinda dig the slapdash vibe of this but i hate how everything in this modern world of ours has to be to goddamn Drakey
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 December 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
also ^especially, not in spite of the fact that it's not real drake!hello feels like a legit top 10 single tho add in "phone down" "cel u lar device" "mr telephone man" and this could easily fit into my fave albums of the year, skits and drake-a-like notwithstanding
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
― bloat laureate (schlump), Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link
erykah could release nothing but these kinds of things for the rest of her life and still be the goati have no interest in listening to this a second time though
― een, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
Erykah Badoulah
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link
idk, i welcome this phase, that you could term the mixtape/beat tape phase, and yes i am including nu amerykah in that, but i do hope it doesnt last too much longer. id like to hear her get back to writing 'straighter' songs again. if she can tear herself away from her phone that is. in some ways id prefer if she just became a luddite.
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 10:56 (eight years ago) link
My favorite twenty, and I could swap half of it for another gathering of awesome.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 December 2016 03:19 (seven years ago) link
That's an awesome list. "The Cell" is such a good intro choice. Dre's remix of Bag Lady is all time FWIW.
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 29 December 2016 05:23 (seven years ago) link
I feel the gauntlet laid down.
― ILXorcist 2: The Heretic (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 December 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08g47rk
thought this was pretty shambolic and solipsistic (how much do i need to care about how this affected gemma cairney? or at least, i can care, but not when its the bulk of her insight on the album, and despite the numerous times she talks about how influential the album and erykah are, we never hear from these artists she influenced, or learn much of the context around the album at the time), like something that should be on 1xtra (ie for a younger audience) than the old indie dads listening to 6music.
baduizm is def not her best album btw.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 12 February 2017 14:17 (seven years ago) link
Definitely not. New Amerykah Part One is the clear winner. I prefer Mama's Gun and New Amerykah Part Two as well.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 12 February 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link
Mamas Gun/New Amerykah Part One (4th World War), Worldwide Underground, Baduizm, New Amerykah Part Two (Return of the Ankh).
i need to spend time with her more recent stuff.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 12 February 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link
NuAm Pt. 1Mama's GunNuAm Pt. 2BaduizmWorldwide UndergroundBut You Cain't Use My Phone
She really needs to make more albums.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 February 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link
Eric and I have finally something in common besides lenses and artichokes.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 February 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link
A milkshake?
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 February 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link
A salted peanut.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 February 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/erykahbadu/videos/10155152043886554/
― removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link
world tour = no Bay Area dates FUCK THIS SHIT
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
So, for whatever reason, I never checked out But You Caint Use My Phone. Listening first time now, and wow, it's pretty great.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Friday, 10 November 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
are any of her albums as good as the first? I love the first one but I've never given the rest enough time
― akm, Friday, 10 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
Well then I know what you damn well need to do with your weekend, friend.
And the answer is a resounding yes. As good and even better. She's amazing.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
Yup, there's not a bum album in the whole lineup. (I might not be the control group on this question tho.)
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 10 November 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
Mama's Gun is fantastic. It's probably on my shortlist of all time favorites, honestly.
The only one I'd say is an outright misfire would be Worldwide Underground. But I haven't listened to it in a decade, so my mind could be changed on the matter.
― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
It's not a misfire, but it's her most ephemeral (i.e. I look at song titles and don't remember how they go).
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
I still love WU and looking at the titles brings back instant hooks (esp. Back in the Day, The Grind, Danger, and especially the jam that is Love of My Life Worldwide).
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
This is legit one of the most baffling ILM questions I've ever read. I don't mean to yell but YES THEY ARE, LISTEN TO THEM
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
Her debut is still only her third or fourth best.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
Weather Underground meanders, but it's worth it for "Back in the Day" and "I Want You" alone.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link
oops
Yeah, I'd wager the general consensus is that Worlwide Underground is the least essential but it's still pretty damn good.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link
When I heard Wings' "Arrow Through Me" a decade ago, a friend and I wondered who the first R&B or hip-hop act would sample its magical hook.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
uh, it came out garbled, but you know what I mean
I still haven't warmed to the mixtape tbh, but I know someday it'll click like the rest.
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
Mama's Gun is fantastic ... The only one I'd say is an outright misfire would be Worldwide Underground.
^^this
― new noise, Friday, 10 November 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
Worldwide underground is a lot of fun.
Top 3 imo
NA PT 2 - mamas gun - NA 1
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
i LOOOOVE the Caint Use My Phone mixtape!
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link
All her albums are brilliant. Even WU has I Want You, which is sublime
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
i've been listening to NA 1 and 2 nonstop recently. "Gone Baby, Don't Be Long" hasn't been mentioned in 6 years ott, somehow. it is one of the best songs OF ALL TIME
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 11 November 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
i really liked But You Can't Use My Phone a lot, i should listen to it more. great rainy night album.
― brimstead, Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link
there've been surprisingly few Erykah polls it seems.
― piscesx, Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link
My top 3: amerykah pt. 2, amerykah pt. 1, worldwide undergroundProbably the #1 artist in the world who needs to make more music
― een, Sunday, 12 November 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
Amerykah Part 1 is probably the best album of the 2000s that isn't Voodoo imo.
― monotony, Sunday, 12 November 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link
Worldwide Underground is her party album, which means that from some angles and in certain contexts it’s actually her best album.
― Tim F, Sunday, 12 November 2017 04:15 (six years ago) link
love of my life IS a party jam
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 12 November 2017 04:22 (six years ago) link
erykah hasn't released a bad album or even one that's less than great iirc
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 13 November 2017 03:53 (six years ago) link
but you can't use my phone is great
― k3vin k., Monday, 13 November 2017 04:14 (six years ago) link
It probably shouldn't (because its sentiments have never not applied really) but 'Twinkle' does feel tangibly more prescient nine years later.
― nashwan, Monday, 13 November 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
Worldwide Underground is a bit of a step down from the rest of her discog, but everything else is straight-up classic, particularly the New Amerykahs.
Cain't Use My Phone was awesome, if a little slight, with more obvious filler than any of her proper albums. But the great stuff was totally amazing.
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 November 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link
I've always thought D'Angelo was a bit overrated (still great!) and Badu consistently underrated. Particularly, yes, the two New Amerykahs. People lose their shit over Voodoo, but these albums are just as ambitious and successful. And Mama's Gun, for that matter.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
oh I'll say it:
Badu >>>>>>>>>>>> D'Angelo
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 November 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
That said, I saw a Badu show once where she spent an eternity rolling around on a pilates ball.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 November 2017 14:42 (six years ago) link
I don't see that as a mitigating factor
― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 13 November 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link
Badu = Bjork >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone else, basically
Say what u must. Dialogue is cool . I invite it. But please do me a favor if you can , Black & Jewish Twitter, just don't use the word "problematic " any more. 😂Y'all using that too much . 🙄.. oh and read the article.— ErykahBadoula (@fatbellybella) January 24, 2018
erykah otm
― marcos, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
the article is awful tho
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link
call out culture is bullshit and yes people should stop calling things problematic on twitter but if you can read that interview and not come away from it never wanting to hear anything erykah badou says ever again then youre nuts
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link
the interviewer was dumb i thought
erykah was erykah
the little annotations they did were really stupid
― marcos, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
idk what was different about her in that interview compared to any other interview she's done in the past 20 years?
btw i think about when she said "u on twitter tho, oppressin me" all the time
― marcos, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link
following up a bit about her support for farrakhan and accusations of anti-semitism with "hitler was a wonderful painter" while speaking to a jew is a bit gauche
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
STFU erykah and make some good new music
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
hitler had real issues with perspective, unsurprisingly
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link
i thought it was funny tbh, esp when she immediately follows up w/ "okay, he was a terrible painter"
― marcos, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link
In general, Erykah Badu has given more to me in my lifetime than the entirety of social media comment threads.
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link
I thought the article was great and the interviewer came off much worse than she did.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
If you claim to see some good in every human, Hitler is logical person to mention as an extreme you go to. She wasn't thinking of the larger scope or people cherry-picking this bit. Just backing up her claim.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link
NDFDFDFDFDFDFDFDFDFDFDFDFDF5683M5M, 9W AERMS
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link
I found the interview to be a reasonable conversation between two people with different, but defensible, worldviews. I think this is causing a mini-uproar because most Good Internet People expect their heroes to think exactly like they do, and badu just doesn't. good for her imo
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link
uproar around it is nonsense obv
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link
tbh I thought your comment was similarly silly!
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:08 (six years ago) link
this is just who erykah is, nothing she said really surprised me. and tbh there was nothing I found particularly ~*~*~problematic~*~*~ either
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
btw here is the interview: http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/erykah-badu-in-conversation.html
kevin otm
― marcos, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
she reminds me of every retired baby boomer ex-hippy i know and i just found the whole interview insufferable, made worst by the dumb hitler comment and like this bit: "Somebody will call me and ask me to come to a march because such and such got shot. In that situation I want to know what really happened. I’m not going to jump up and go march just because I’m green and the person who got shot is green. The rush to get mad doesn’t make sense to me."
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
wanting to get facts...ugh insufferable!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, January 24, 2018 1:17 PM (nine seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
are you being deliberately disingenuous or just dumb? generally when someone gets shot in america and there is a march about it the person was murdered by a cop, but of course you know that.
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link
guys it's Erykah Badu, she lives in her own world and I wouldn't have it any other way
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
I'm still not understanding your outrage?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
"In that situation I want to know what really happened" /= "Eh, fuck these snowflakes *adjusts head scarf* "
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
when you hear about an unarmed black man getting shot by the cops is your first reaction "i wonder what happened there, it could've been legit"? no it isn't.
i guess i will leave the stans to it.
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link
Keep our head ringin, jim
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link
are you being deliberately disingenuous or just dumb? generally when someone gets shot in america and there is a march about it the person was murdered by a cop, but of course you know that.― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:18 PM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:18 PM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm being neither, thanks for the false binary. Of course I know that. And I would want to, you know, know as much facts about it as possible before I marched about it. ESPECIALLY if I was a celebrity.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link
"another black man was shot by a cop. we're going to march about it. you in?""hmm ok what exactly happened in this case""oh ffs you're insufferable!"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link
"another black man was shot by a cop. we're going to march about it. you in?""hmm ok what exactly happened in this case"
This is a weird response, though.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link
ya how bizarre to want to know about the incident you're going to march about
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
You're marching against police killing black people, seriously, what more do you need to know?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link
"Somebody will call me and ask me to come to a march because such and such got shot. In that situation I want to know what really happened."
So no, she wasn't talking about "marching against police killing black people". She was talking about a hypothetical yet specific killing. To me, it's weird to not want to know about that specific killing.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link
She is clearly talking about a BLM march, GD...
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link
because such and such got shotbecause such and such got shotbecause such and such got shotbecause such and such got shotbecause such and such got shotbecause such and such got shotbecause such and such got shotbecause such and such got shotbecause such and such got shot
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:53 (six years ago) link
good lord the things you people will nitpick, always trying to paint people in the most negative light
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link
I would imagine if people are marching it would not be very difficult to get some info unless she needs to comb over forensic evidence or some shit
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:54 (six years ago) link
it's a dumb way to say "I'm not an activist" but are you guys suggesting she's...pro-cop? anti-black? what?
― rob, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link
Or she could just freaking ask the person who is calling her...
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link
I think she's just trying to say that she resists group-think under all circumstances, even the most obviously righteous ones.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link
I agree. And in the process she underlines why that is a bullshit stance, imo.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
seems like she is saying don't just march in the street cos your friends told you do, get educated
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link
being informed is a good stance imo
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 24, 2018
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link
Before I interrupt a recording session or, god help me, my laundry, I'd like to know facts. Glad to know many of you white people wanna revive a thread to discuss banalities.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link
erykah rules
― kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 25 January 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link
I’m on the side of I don’t see what was so bad abt this interview
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 25 January 2018 04:55 (six years ago) link
It’s a good interview, and she makes a lot of sense.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 25 January 2018 06:40 (six years ago) link
revive a thread to discuss banalitiesnbd
― niels, Thursday, 25 January 2018 07:09 (six years ago) link
"Is anything being lost in how younger people absorb music?
You can’t roll a joint on the cover of a digital download."
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:13 (six years ago) link
Group-think isnt a bullshit stance?!
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 January 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link
it is if I like it, it isn’t if I don’t
― k3vin k., Thursday, 25 January 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link
So there must be some offshoot of Godwin's law, wherein one cherishes an artist's work so much that not even their carelessly invoking the name of Hitler can alter one's affection.
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:47 (six years ago) link
some Nazis are good people
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link
even Russians love their children too
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link
They’re not, but Hitler was a better painter than I am.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 25 January 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link
People are in real pain. So I understand why my 'good' intent was misconstrued as 'bad'. In trying to express a point, I used 1 of the worst examples possible, Not to support the cruel actions of an unwell, psychopathic Adolf Hitler, but to only exaggerate a show of compassion.— ErykahBadoula (@fatbellybella) January 25, 2018
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:11 (six years ago) link
Let’s be honest, anyone who doesn’t like Erykah Badu is, in fact, a Nazi
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
there's so much going on in the world right now, honestly i can't imagine caring about this
i'd never checked out hitler's paintings before, they were better than i thought they would be
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 January 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
what she said about cosby is pretty fucked
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 January 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link
to me the ideology of her comments is strictly "i'm too rich to care about any of this shit" which might make them easier or harder to swallow depending on your mileage
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 January 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
whoooo carressssssss
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 25 January 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link
what? since when are we not caring about celebrities saying and doing stupid shit ? it's done all the time here and because so many of us like Erykah she gets a pass.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 January 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
i mean i don't really care that much either but the stanning here is weird to me.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 January 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
never forget "“John F Kennedy was a revolutionary; he was not afraid to butt heads with America, and I was not afraid to show America my butt-naked truth.”
― marcos, Thursday, 25 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZQMqp7Wz3s
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Friday, 26 January 2018 03:37 (six years ago) link
i caught that the first time she did the music and yes, he really does look like the mouse
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
otm about flintstones here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVzEOvb5lrg
― kolakube (Ross), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/14/638483063/erykah-badu-tiny-desk-concert
Green Eyes is so fantastic.
― ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link
fuck yeah!
― Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
Gorgeous. Drummer rocking that upside-down snare.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
but you cain't use my phone was four years ago.
anytime now, erykah. anytime.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 14 October 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
I guess I always sort of figure Erykah Badu (and Andre Benjamin) will never release another full-on album again, mainly just to keep from wishing it weren't so. But the day I'm wrong will be a good one.
― Soundslike, Monday, 14 October 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link
https://www.bet.com/music/2020/05/01/erykah-badu-jill-scott-verzuz-battle.html
― Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Friday, 1 May 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Erykah_Badu_-_Live.jpg
Just here to say I don’t take this record for granted…it’s v v great
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link
sure!
― burly crafty woodsman (James Harden) vs tall ethereal phantom (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link
She’s having fun in those Met Gala photos
― curmudgeon, Friday, 17 September 2021 03:50 (two years ago) link
I just found out there's an album called Worldwide Underground in-between her four classics. I feel stupid but I kinda have a fresh new Badu album to listen to. It's good and fun too.
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link
I know some people who would call that her best.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
A dull cliche!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link
As always with women who want to find out things, she told more than she learned.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link
Erykah Badu is among the most commercially successful R&B artists of her generation and artistically the most promising. Eric, dear, this is Alfred.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link
"Play 'Green Eyes' again."
"But that was the fourth straight time."
"Then this will be five."
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link
puff.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link
"I Want You" is esp so incredible on WwU...
― If I luge, if I luge, if I luge you on the track (Craig D.), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
BTW, I'm finally seeing her in concert in October. She more or less closes out my top 5 must-see concert artists.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link
She disappointed at Pitchfork a few weeks ago. My first Badu show too.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link
This thread made me check and realize she's playing near me next Thursday. Ugggggggh, I'd love to see her but I don't want to go to a big mega place. On a Thursday. I feel old.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link
if worldwide underground is her best work, we really are on the way out as a species.
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
A couple years back she was kinda defending R Kelly. Wonder if she has said anything lately. Or maybe I don’t want to know.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
Worldwide Underground is sick
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
emphatically seconded
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link
sou as water torture, in the best way
this is probably heresy but her debut is probably my least favourite of hers. still a good album, it's just that all the others do more i love
― ufo, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Tuesday, September 28, 2021 3:09 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Is Austin our Worst Poster
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
Not at all. It's her least impressive, but only compared to what followed.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 02:38 (two years ago) link
Granted I'm a bit contrarian on Erykah but there are definitely times I think WWU is her best.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:14 (two years ago) link
it has some of her best moments at the very least
― ufo, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 07:29 (two years ago) link
Saw her live in 2019 and I Want You was probably the highlight
― nashwan, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 08:57 (two years ago) link
I'd love to see her play live again.
It's been too long since she released anything.
I still wish she'd press up her Tiny Desk Concert, that performance is sublime.
Baduism is, in places, fantastic - Next Lifetime, Otherside Of The Game. It's just been surpassed by everything else she's done.
The live album that followed Baduizm is pretty poor - lots of covers. Especially considering how sublime a live performer she's been for the last two decades.
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link
Is Austin our Worst Poster― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, September 28, 2021 7:37 PM
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, September 28, 2021 7:37 PM
idk. i'll ask him what he thinks and get back to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWCYjTVYt4k
this and that super long version of "next lifetime" are worth it i think. i like the covers on it fine, but it was probably a mistake to put out a live album that quickly before she had established much of a repertoire. also i liked "tyrone." it was silly, but that was the point.
i will say one nice thing about worldwide underground: the initial vinyl copy that i had (purchased on release date lol) sounded fantastic. i don't know much about mastering processes or whatever, but i did notice a (decidedly worse) difference with the cd. i probably played it a lot more than it deserved just because the music sounded so vibrant coming out of my stereo; especially side one. that and i like "i want you." the buildup is great and it was a mixtape and djing favorite at the time.
be very interested to know the story behind this (though it sounds fairly meh based on the snippets there).
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
Tyrone is boss, for sure.
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
Saw her live in Jan 2020 at the bahidora festival. She was an hour late and idk if most of the crowd weren’t aware of her music and how important she actually is but she seemed disconnected from the crowd and viceversa.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link
I saw her in 2010 and she was on time, fantastic and locked in the entire night. Terrific show.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
Seen her twice i think? Late both times by at least an hour and absolutely slayed both shows.
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 September 2021 02:02 (two years ago) link
the old unplugged episode with the roots is so fucking good
― brimstead, Thursday, 30 September 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link
wait maybe it wasn’t the roots. sorry, stoned
― brimstead, Thursday, 30 September 2021 02:07 (two years ago) link
I saw her do a STELLAR show at the Brixtno Academy, super-intense version of Green Eyes, and she hits that penultimate long note at the end, and is just spent, and everything goes silent, and she's just stood there, in the moment, wrung out, feeling it, everyone in the room is feeling it, this moment of like, "Just feel the dust falling, the heaviness", absolute silence,
And then this incredibly drunken, off-key voice from the audience croons out, "Baaaa-aaaa-aaag laaaa-aaaa-aaaa-dy!", and she just dissolves into hysterics, and the whole room erupted into laughter, and it was just this wonderful thing where the tension had risen to dizzying levels, and this relief that followed it. It was one of my favourite concerts ever.
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Thursday, 30 September 2021 09:06 (two years ago) link
Oh man, I hope something similar happens at my concert in October!
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Thursday, 30 September 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link
I've seen her live two or three times. One was behind Mama's Gun and she killed it. Another time was ... I forget when, but all I remember is 15 minutes of her doing pilates.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 September 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link
She gave a basically straightforward concert in Minneapolis last night, but damn that's all I needed from her. Fantastic, fun and breezy ... AND she did "I Want You" interpolated with "Don't Stop the Music"!
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link
I heard 'the healer' for the first time in years recently and reminded it was so ahead of if it's time, conceptually and sonically. This is a cool live version.dope!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuObEg9A2Ew
― Swanswans, Thursday, 14 October 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link
i might put the healer on a top 500 songs of all time list
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 October 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link
sunday afternoons + slow jams 101. not really a song i've ever grown tired of. ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxITI3A2KWA
"next lifetime" (1997)
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link
super sustained vibe on the long live version from the only official live album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M05KLHZYOpg
probably one of the defining artists of my life. love her so much.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link
so good, playing it now - thanx for the reminder!
― butt-mooning is a polysemous word, hoss! (breastcrawl), Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link
welp, guess it's afternoon somewhere. close enough.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, 22 May 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
it ain’t that type of party
― butt-mooning is a polysemous word, hoss! (breastcrawl), Sunday, 22 May 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link
or in other words: I can’t make sense of your last post.
― butt-mooning is a polysemous word, hoss! (breastcrawl), Sunday, 22 May 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link
sunday afternoons + slow jams 101.― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, May 22, 2022 11:36 AM
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, May 22, 2022 11:36 AM
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, 22 May 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link
time once again making fools of us all. wish it was the other way around. next lifetime, right?
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Sunday, 22 May 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link
seeing her again in August in Brooklyn, i think this is the fourth time? pretty excited.
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 June 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link
Ms. Erykah Badu (a.k.a. @fatbellybella) is giving us a show at @RaviniaFestival tonight. Here she is performing:“Otherside of the Game”🎥: @Waldens_Block // The TRiiBE pic.twitter.com/zF0rsQTvfT— The TRiiBE (@TheTRiiBE) September 12, 2022
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Monday, 12 September 2022 03:09 (one year ago) link
brooklyn set was, unsurprisingly noteworthy for her going on about two hours late and for it being fucking great
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 September 2022 05:03 (one year ago) link
Wish she'd make another record soon, she's the very best
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 12 September 2022 08:35 (one year ago) link
here's something i missed―https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1b4Spy9VRQ
rc + the gritz feat eb - "leave me alone" (2013)
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 7 April 2024 00:11 (two weeks ago) link