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albums, mainly, i am wondering about...

marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Hmm? I'm Popol Vuhless

girl scout heroin (iamamonkey), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I've got all their albums but I will hold off making any recommendations till other people make theirs then I will violently disagree with them (cackle)

Dadaismus, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The soundtrack to Aquire the Wrath of God is pretty great...my favorite....I don't think you can violently disagree to it being MY favorite.

ddb, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Search = all, destroy = none. My favourites are "Tantric Songs" and "Das Hohelied Salomos", both of which take thee direct route to yr unconcious mind in my experience. The later albums aren't as good, anything featuring guido heironymous is generally less spritual than the earlier stuff, so I'd start w/the 2 mentioned above.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

can i find the albums around pretty easily, or will this be an ebay focused endeavor?

thanks for all your help.

marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

If U R in the UK, you need to get in touch with "Ultima Thule" record shop in Leicester. Otherwise, any major rekkid shop should be able to locate all of the re-issues, stick w/"Spalax" and "Celestial Harmonies" labels - I have had Italian Popol Vuh reissues badly dubbed from vinyl in the past.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Guido Hieronymous is Florian Fricke's son I believe - I agree, he should have left his Dad to make the records in his own way instead of trying to tart them up and make them "Modern".

Dadaismus, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I have Affenstunde and I really like it.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

haven't heard any of the 'real' popul vuh albums that i've disliked, "in dem garten pharao" always stuck with me.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think Guido Hieronymous is FF's son (see the following interview):

http://www.eurock.com/features/florian.aspx

My favorites (of the ones I've heard so far) are Letzte Tage - Letzte Nachte and Einsjager und Siebenjager


Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ultima thule records:

http://www.ultimathulerecords.com/

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:55 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

awesome. i am in nyc and i just checked other music who seem to have a bunch of p.v.. i know where i am heading after work!

marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:58 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Seek:

Popol Vuh (1972)
Quiche Maja (1973)
Stolen From Time (1975, credited to Popol Ace)

Destroy:

Anything by those German guys.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 21:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Wha...? Surely they are amongst the more conventionally melodic of the Krautrock bands (assuming you didn't pick up Affenstunde or In Den Garten Pharoahs), nicht wahr?

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 02:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

there was a one sided bootleg live 7" that came out a few years ago that was jaw droppingly good. beyond that, search all - they're brilliant.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 05:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I have very mixed feelings. In theory they should be good
but they always just go on too long without enough dynamics.
_Aguirre_ is still great, eerie background music.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 07:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

This guy Geir has GOT to be joking?!?

Dadaismus, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 18:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

This band is so great...

The debut 'Affenstunde' is the one predominantly electronic one. The second one, 'In Den Garten Pharoahs', keeps it going but side two is improvised solo organ. All the Hertzog soundtracks are keepers, 'Aguirre', 'Heart of Glass', 'Nosferatu' (the soundtracks are compilations from their studio records, but they're the ones I throw in the player more often)

Avoid 'City Raga', their techno remix experiment. Also I'd say stick to the seventies before venturing into the eighties.

jl, Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

OK OK, I admit I HAVEN’T got all the Popol Vuh albums. I don’t have some of the later ones which are either unrecognisable as Popol Vuh or consist of polite re-recordings of earlier pieces (which strikes me as fairly pointless). The other one I don’t have is “Yoga” which is apparently played entirely by Indian musicians, a concept that seems a bit too George Harrison-like to me (tho I expect I’ll buy it one day). Here are my opinions on the albums I have, for extra geekiness I’ve given them marks out of 10. For what it’s worth, I particularly recommend: Einsjäger und Siebenjäger; Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte; Herz aus Glas; Bruder des Schattens, Söhne des Lichts; Der Nacht der Seele; Sei still wisse ICH BIN. I’ve split this overview into several parts as there are too many albums to digest in one sitting.

A UNREASONABLY SUBJECTIVE GUIDE TO POPOL VUH (Part One)

Affenstunde (1970)
I'll be honest with you, I'm not especially interested in Florian Fricke as an electronic musician. This album is one to admire rather than play too often. Allegedly one of the first "rock" albums to be made entirely (almost) with the Moog of Dr. Robert's invention. Admirably, Fricke’s approach to the Moog seems to be that (like Sun Ra) he doesn't bother trying to get a tune out of it but concentrates instead on producing weird noises. However (like Sun Ra again), you wonder whether this is deliberate or because he CAN'T get a tune out of the damn thing! All in all, this album is quite different from other German "electronic" albums of the period in that genuinely IS electronic (for the most part) and, unlike Tangerine Dream and the "Berlin School", it doesn't just sound like the weird bits on a Pink Floyd record stuck together. 6/10

In den Gärten des Pharaos (1971)
Better than "Affenstunde". The title track has more of Fricke's wayward Moog noodling (Moogling anyone?) but with more (ahem) musical elements added. Finishes with a long section played on a Fender Rhodes that is actually quite jazzy (in an ECM sorta way). The other track, "Vuh", is the first evidence to date of Popol Vuh as THE ultimate Goth band - a looooooooooong drone piece on a mighty swelling church organ overlaid with cacophonous percussion and mewling moogs. Good stuff! 7/10

Hosianna Mantra (1972)
Woah, talk about a volte face! The Moog is consigned to a (very roomy) closet, rarely to appear on a Vuh record again and in its place we have Piano, Cembalo, Oboe, Electric Guitar. Very classically influenced and entirely devotional, Fricke's wonderful piano playing is well to the fore, unfortunately so is Conny Veit's echoplexed "early 70's" guitar, which over-eggs the pudding in places. Djong Yun adds vocals so wispy they barely exist. Somewhat meandering but I dare anyone to take actual OFFENCE at so diaphonous a creation! 7/10

Seligpreisung (1973)
An odd album in the oeuvre. This is like a more muscular version of "Hosianna" with similar "songs" which are (with the exception of the instrumental, "Tanz der Chassidim") made up of successive themes rather than having any kind of verse-chorus-middle eight structure (in fact this album probably has more different tunes than the entirety of all the albums that follow it!). The presence of Amon Düül II's erstwhile drummer Daniel Fichelscher edges some of the songs towards prog rock or even (heaven forfend!) jazz rock. Fricke handles the vocals himself in an unlovely but sincere voice which adds to the album’s singularity. 7/10

Einsjäger und Siebenjäger (1974)
The album that cements the partnership between the two core musicians of Popol Vuh - Florian Fricke and Daniel Fichelscher. Fichelscher's pounding, cymbal-heavy drums are all over this album but who would have thought a humble drummer (sorry any drummers out there!) would turn out to be such an astonishing guitarist? His acoustic playing (on his own "Morgengrüss") is beautiful enough but with his electric playing Fricke found the perfect vehicle for his compositions. Fichelscher's playing is not unlike Conny Veit but he has a warmer tone, a stronger melodic imagination and he's more of a virtuoso (the last the least important of the three). The title track is an amazing 19½ minute magnum opus which could conceivably pass for prog rock were it not so heartfelt and unpretentious, Djong Yun shows up to coo sweet somethings every so often. 8/10

Dadaismus, Thursday, 20 March 2003 13:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The Moog is consigned to a (very roomy) closet, rarely to appear on a Vuh record again

Klaus Schultze's "Big Moog" is in fact this instrument, or part of it is, I think parts of it were stolen back in thee 1980's. Fricke siad that he got this female voice sound that he liked out of it, but didn'e care for it otherwise. IIRC he avoided electronic instrumentation thereafter 'till he got a Synclavier for "Cobra Verde"

Danny Fichelscher is an astonishing guitarist, it's true. At times I think there has never been anyone better, actually. I am amazed that he isn't better known.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 20 March 2003 14:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

dammit, einsjaeger und siebenjaeger is the one popul vuh album i don't have and can't find. and now i want to hear it.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

waiting for dadaismus' part two with baited breath

I'd forgotten about 'Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte'

jl, Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Here 'tis...

A UNREASONABLY SUBJECTIVE GUIDE TO POPOL VUH (Part Two)

Aguirre (1975)
The first of Fricke’s confusing soundtrack albums from the films of Werner Herzog. I say confusing because the albums often bear little resemblance to what you hear in the film. The opening scenes of the film feature the once-heard-never-forgotten “Lacrimae di Rei”, which utilises the “choir organ”, a mellotron-like instrument also used to good effect by Amon Düül II. The only the other music which actually appears in the film is a brief field-recording of pan pipes. "Morgengrüss II" and “Agnus Dei” are both re-workings of tracks on “Einsjäger und Siebenjäger” and “Aguirre II” consists of the first part of “Lacrimae di Rei” (or “Aguirre I”) and a lush guitar piece from Daniel Fichelscher. Which leaves “Vergegenwaertigung” (snappy title huh?), a proto-ambient moog piece consisting of sundry whooshes and rumbles which appears to date from the early 70s. 7/10

Das Hohelied Salomos (1975)
Having made the useful discovery that Fichelscher could play the guitar a bit, it sounds on this album as if Fricke got a bit carried away and allowed Fichelscher to solo over every nook and cranny on every track - if you are not a fan of guitar solos, this is not the album for you! For the first time, Fricke is cutting songs down to their essentials, instead of using successive themes here he concentrates on one repeated theme or one piano sequence and builds pieces this way. Here, he also begins re-visiting and re-configuring themes from other albums ("Hosianna Mantra" in particular). All in all, this is a very "rock" album. 6/10

Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte (1976)
Even rockier than "Salomos" and considerably heavier. Wall-to-wall Fichelscher on this album with heavy drums and waves of guitar - some people have called this the beginning of Vuh's "raga rock" period but it’s really more rock than raga. Renate Knaup jumps ship from the fast-sinking Amon Düül II and sings “Dort ist Der Weg” and the title track, which are surprisingly straight folk-rock songs which even have English lyrics! Happily, it must be admitted that it still doesn’t really sound like anyone else. The highlight is probably the instrumental, “Oh wie nah ist der Weg hinab” which is used to memorable effect in the opening sequences of Werner Herzog’s “Heart of Glass”. 8/10

Herz aus Glas (1977)
Throughout this period in Popol Vuh's evolution, Florian Fricke's piano playing recedes further and further into the mix until, with this album, it disappears altogether! Although he's credited as playing piano on this album, I cannot make out a single note of piano - and as the album is all-instrumental this effectively makes this a Daniel Fichelscher solo album. The compositions are still recognisably Fricke's though (one Fichelscher piece aside), the soloing guitars of the last few albums are placed further back WITHIN each track, which makes this album considerable less easy to date precisely. Also worth noting that hardly any of the music on this album actually appears in the Herzog film it’s nominally the soundtrack to – in fact, most of the music on the film is from “Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte”. 9/10

Nosferatu (1978)
Another muddled soundtrack album from Herzog’s slightly redundant version of the F.W. Murnau’s silent classic. Once again, not all that much which is on this album is actually in the film and much of the music is from previous albums. A case in the point is 12 minutes or so of creepy electronic music included here, which, unless my ears very much deceive me and I don’t think they do, is merely the moog parts from “In den Gärten Pharaos”. Mind you, at least that music actually IS in the film (where it works very effectively), a lot here isn’t. 6/10

Bruder des Schattens, Söhne des Lichts (1978)
Having taken the guitar-army raga rock approach as far as he could, Fricke moved back towards more placid waters on this album: longer and more hypnotic songs with largely acoustic instrumentation and a more overt "Eastern" influence. The title track is the best of Popol Vuh’s long tracks – moving through a Gregorian chant like opening; a classically influenced section with glacially beautiful woodwind before the main body of the piece: a long long, hypnotic folk-influenced mantra. All in all, absolutely stunning. “Höre, der du Wagst” and “Das Schloss des Irrtums” if anything are even more repetitive and trance-like – a bit too much for some tastes I would expect. The closing, “Die Umkehr”, is a slightly doomy and foreboding folk-rocker which lies somewhere between early Steeleye Span and Eastern European folk music. 9/10

Dadasimus, Friday, 21 March 2003 11:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

A UNREASONABLY SUBJECTIVE GUIDE TO POPOL VUH (Part Three)

Der Nacht der Seele (1979)
Very similar in mood and sound to "Brüder" but with shorter, more concentrated tracks and more use of vocals. Some pieces, such as “Mit Händen, mit Füssen”, are as beautiful as anything in the Popol Vuh catalogue, others are more Gothic. Some quite odd percussion pieces too. Another good album and another short one too! 8/10

Sei still wisse ICH BIN (1981)
Probably the most idiosyncratic Popol Vuh album of them all and one of the best. Soundtrack to Fricke’s extremely odd “film” of the same name (sometimes also called “Sinai Desert”) The mantra-like chanting and extreme repetition that Fricke had been exploring in more and more detail finds its ultimate expression on this truly unique album. Using the choir of the Bavarian State Opera, Fricke builds dense and rather unsettling walls of vocals over thundering, thumping percussion and Fichelscher’s pleasingly primitive guitar or else strips the music right down to simple modal melodies. Pretty special. 9/10

Fitzcarraldo (1982)
Not an album I actually own, but given that all of the Popol Vuh music on it (there’s also some opera on here) is from previous albums, owning it would be somewhat redundant. One thing to note is that, once again, some of the music heard in the film isn’t on the soundtrack, specifically: a sequence which uses, “Singet, denn der Gesang vertreibt die Wölfe”, which is actually from “Herz aus Glas” (though not actually in the “Heart of Glass” film – told you it was confusing!)

Agape-Agape (1983)
OK, eclectic sort of album, which picks up on various threads from the previous four or five albums. Unfortunately, the re-recording of old pieces starts in earnest on this album and you wonder why they bothered following this course. The other problem I find with this album is simply that it isn’t as well produced as previous albums. But this has good things on it – the title track for instance while “Why Do I Still Sleep” is hypnotic to the max. Nice to see Conny Veit back after an absence of ten years! 7/10

Spirit of Peace (1985)
Just four tracks on this. The opening chant, “We Know About the Need” can be heard in a Werner Herzog documentary about Reinhold Messner. The title track is part two of a three part piano suite which is worth hearing in its entirety, if you can track it down – shows the hitherto unsuspected influence of Keith Jarrett IMO. “Song of Earth” is the old “Agnus Dei” tune (used previously in various PV albums) rearranged for choir and acoustic guitar – 8 whole minutes which is either extremely boring or extremely hypnotic or (more likely) somewhere between the two. The 17½ minute “Take the Tention High” (sic) seems to be striving for a similar feel to “Brüder des Schattens” but lacks dynamics and is simply TOO repetitive. 6/10

Cobra Verde (1987)
Extremely obscure but surprisingly good soundtrack (probably better than Herzog’s self-parodic film deserved) – the last good Popol Vuh album in fact. For the first time in fifteen years, Fricke makes extended use of electronics, namely the synclavier keyboard. This is used to create a series of ominous drone pieces and to provide a subtle orchestral-like backing to the utterly beautiful “Ha’mut, bis dass die Nacht mit Ruh’ und Stille kommt”. The title track is a reworking of “Mit Händen, mit Füssen” done in full Gregorian chant mode. Worth picking up if you can find it – though that is extremely unlikely! 7/10

For Me and You (1991)
This is the later Guido Hieronymous-guided Popol Vuh which means: some music which has nothing to do with Popol Vuh as we know and love them; some pointless re-workings of old material; some good stuff where Fricke and Fichelscher seem more involved. The stand out here is the four-part “Om Mani Padme Hum” which is built around Fricke’s piano and Renate Knaup’s voice, which can only be a good thing. Part 4 is especially exquisite. 5/10

City Raga (who cares?)
Played this once I think – didn’t hear enough of Popol Vuh on this to play it again. No rating therefore.

Dadaismus, Saturday, 22 March 2003 13:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Agape-Agape (1983)
But this has good things on it – the title track for instance

Definitely the title track is the standout on this one, for me--has a Native American feel. I am still trying to figure out if they are chanting the poem on the back of the CD, with the "gully gully ram sam" or whatever.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 22 March 2003 14:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I've got a huge tolerance for meandering moog in Fricke's hands, myself, but regardless this is the best album by album overview of this band I've read

jl, Sunday, 23 March 2003 00:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, thanks a lot Dadaismus. I've got the first five plus Sei still Wisse, but definitely intend to explore further.

BTW if anybody reading this owns Crispy Ambulance's Plateau Phase and the Nosferatu soundtrack, can you confirm that the CA track "Simon's Ghost" is a direct ripoff of the opening theme from Nosferatu? I don't have the soundtrack (and in fact don't know if this theme made it to the soundtrack as per Dadaismus' caveats) but saw the movie again recently, then shortly after that listened to the CA disc and noted the extreme similarity. on Plateau Phase the piece is credited to the group.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 23 March 2003 00:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The theme from "Nosferatu" is called "Hoere der du wagst" and is on "Bruder des Schattens..."

I'm not finished yet!

Last part…

ALSO OF NOTE
Gila – Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee (1973)
Gila was Conny Veit’s band before joining Popol Vuh, their first album (with a different line-up) is apparently quite psychedelic and spacey but this particular album is of special note because it’s basically Popol Vuh: but playing Conny Veit's songs as opposed to Florian Fricke's. Not surprisingly this sounds a bit like the Popol Vuh of this period (1973-75): melodic rock with folk and classical elements and with not enough progginess to render it unpalatable to the discerning listener - but not as GOOD as Popol Vuh of course! One of the problems is that it's some kind of concept album about the plight of the Native American - cue po-faced and awkward lyrics and vocals delivered with a Teutonic over-earnestness which spills over into (unintentional) comedy at times. Nice lush piano throughout from the late great Florian, Danny Fichelscher drums as athletically as ever, Conny plays nice guitar.

ADDITIONAL FILM WORK
As you may have noticed Florian Fricke’s music is often used in the films of Werner Herzog and it’s hard to imagine one without the other (just how many faux-naif mystics are there in Bavaria exactly?) As I confessed at the beginning of this marathon, I don’t have all Popol Vuh’s albums and I certainly haven’t seen all of Werner Herzog’s films so there may be some films which use Popol Vuh’s music which I’m unaware of.

Lebenszeichen (Signs of Life) (director: Werner Herzog, 1968)
I confess I haven’t seen this, Werner Herzog’s first feature film. I do know however that Florian Fricke appears in it as “a pianist”, some years before Popol Vuh too!

Auch Zwerge haben klein angefangen (Even Dwarfs Started Small) (director: Werner Herzog, 1970)
Truly one of the strangest films you’ll ever see. This is supposed to have some Florian Fricke music on the soundtrack, but I must admit not to noticing it.

Die Grosse Ekstase die Bildschnitzers Steiner (The Great Ecstasy of the Woodcarver Steiner) (director: Werner Herzog, 1973)
This is a typically idiosyncratic Herzog documentary on the Swiss show jumper, Walter Steiner. Features some lovely Popol Vuh music, music which I’ve yet to hear on any album – damn it!

Jeder für sich und Gott gegen alle (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) (director: Werner Herzog, 1974)
Florian Fricke has a brief but striking role in this wonderful Herzog film. He plays a blind pianist called Florian (what else!), who is first seen playing (and singing – sort of!) a version of “Agnus Dei” (see numerous Popol Vuh albums) for the foundling Kaspar Hauser and his guardian (and looking very Beethoven-like in the process). He pops up again at the end of the film, in Kaspar’s deathbed scene, where he stares rather disconcertingly into space while humming “Agnus Dei”!

Sei still wisse ICH BIN (director: Florian Fricke, 1981)
Not really a film (though shot on film) and not really a video (though resembling one in form). This is the visual accompaniment to the album of the same name (and vice versa). Shot entirely in the Sinai Desert, this largely consists of Herzog-like poetic landscapes, sometimes empty and sometimes peopled by mysterious figures in white robes: walking, standing on mountainsides or in large circles. The figures are following “The Prophet”, a Jesus-like figure who, bizarrely, is played by a woman with a false beard (60’s fashion model, Veruschka)! (Actually, now I come to think of it, it would have been even more bizarre if it had been a woman with a REAL beard). If you think Herzog’s films are slow and uneventful wait till you see THIS!

Dadaismus, Monday, 24 March 2003 14:05 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Thanks for your kind comments regarding this silly venture - remember I did describe it as being "unreasonably subjective", which it is. I think everyone should make up their own minds on Popol Vuh but if you truly "get" them, they will probably become one of your favourite bands.

Thanks for the link to the Florian Fricke interview. I admit that Guido Hieronymous doesn’t appear to be Florian’s son – I’d always assumed that he’d allowed Mr. Hieronymous the latitude to ruin latter day Popol Vuh out of some kind of fatherly indulgence. Also fascinated to discover that Esther Ofarim was almost the vocalist on “Hosianna Mantra”, at about the same time that her husband was (mis)managing Can! It is stated that this is the first known interview in English with Florian Fricke – this isn’t true, I came across an interview with FF in a old copy of Sounds (UK music weekly – now defunct) which dated from 1978-79, the interview was with Sandy Robertson.

I would also recommend seeking out “Herzog on Herzog” (edited by Paul Cronin, published by Faber), a series of interviews with Werner Herzog which contains interesting info on Florian Fricke – including a practical joke played by him on the apparently notoriously gullible Herzog. Actually, I would recommend it in any case as an insight into Herzog who is a truly amazing man, even if he hasn’t made a decent feature film in years. Delighted to discover that Herzog, in the grand tradition of German intellectuals and film auteurs (see Fassbinder), was a more than useful footballer (that’s proper football not the musclebound rubbish which goes under that name in the USA).

Dadaismus, Monday, 24 March 2003 14:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ha, but what about that bit at thee end ov "In a Sacred Manner" from "Bury My Heart @ Wounded Knee"? This great long acoustick guitar piece, which suddenly kicks int this awesome prog/krautrock, then it fades out! Gah!! The lyrics are rubbish, tho'.

A friend who I haven't seen in years had this brit electronic 'zine from the early eighties, which contained a FF interview. t was wierd, in that the interviewer had obtained FF's phone no. from somewhere, & called him up on spec. Fricke's response was, like, I don't do interviews, and where did you get my number from anyway!!?? But, seeing as I'm here, i'll answer a couple of questions. I can't remember much except for the bit about him selling the big Moog to Klaus S, and FF being slightly disparaging abt KS' musick "nice music for supermarkets" is how I remember he put it. Great stuff Dadaismus, anyway.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
I picked up the new SPV reissues of Aguirre and Einsjager today (for a reasonable $10 each at Newbury Comics); so, looks like I can ditch my Spalax copies.

Don't hear much difference in sound if they were remastered (doubt it), but the packaging at least is way superior to Spalax (plus, it's nice to have Digipaks rather than standard jewel case).
Can't wait for them to do Letzte Tage - Letzte Naechte and the others...

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 01:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Don't hear much difference in sound if they were remastered (doubt it)

Actually, listening to the title crack of Aguirre right now, and I can hear the vinyl clicks. Jees, and they licensed this from Fricke's family, too! Guess the original tapes are long gone...

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 02:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the bonus tracks on "einsjager" are pretty nice. personally, i hate digipaks but this was the one popul vuh release we didn't have.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 19 June 2004 05:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Actually, listening to the title crack of Aguirre right now, and I can hear the vinyl clicks. Jees, and they licensed this from Fricke's family, too! Guess the original tapes are long gone...

I believe they are. Bounus tracks?!??!?

Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 19 June 2004 14:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'll have to listen more carefully at the bonus stuff, but I thought on an incidental listen (I wasn't paying full attention) that "Wo Bist Du?" on Einsjager is the same as the opening part of the mammoth-length track on Aguirre.

Disappointing if that is true, especially since as it is their albums are already pretty notorious for shuffling around (or re-recording) the same music on different albums.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 21:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

cool thread. due to lack of money, i've only managed to get "in the gardens of pharao/aguirre" cd on celestial harmonies. it's sort of a compilation i suppose, but everything on it is good and it seems like a good place for beginners since it's cheap. songs on it are: aguirre, in the gardens of pharao, vuh, and spirit of peace pts.1,2 and 3.

i've seen just about all of herzog's films at least once. 'signs of life' is really pretty good. i had no idea that florian was in 'kaspar hauser', and that he's in some of my favorite scenes in that film. the guy who plays kaspar hauser, bruno s., is also in another of herzog's called 'stroszek' which is pretty good too.

urker, Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Stroszek is fantastic. All hail the dancing chicken!

In Kaspar, Fricke looks uncannily Beethoven-like, as if he had stepped right out of the Romantic era...

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 23:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Even more confusingly "Wo bist du" is the title of a track on "Der Nacht der Seele". But still no sign of the music for "The Great Ecstasy of the Woodcarver Steiner"? It must exist somewhere surely?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
I got some of these--at "my" Newburys--and they were $12! ARG!

John 2, Saturday, 17 July 2004 18:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
I picked up 5 of the new reissues last week:

Affenstunde
Agape/Agape
Einsjäger und Siebenjäger
Hosianna Mantra
Aguirre

They are very good, and I A/B-ed them with my Spalax issues, and the new ones sound a bit (though noticeably) better - more "open" sounding, perhaps. some of them are vinyl transfers by the sound of it. Pretty well done, though not as good as the transfer on High Tide's "Sea Shanties, for example. They all come in little gatefold cardboard sleeves w/a little booklet. It appears that there are only 2 booklets, going on the ones I have - one for the regular albums, one for the soundtracks. Some of the blurb in the booklets is OK, but it's a little unsatisfying in some way. There are some good pictures, including a few I hadn't seen before. the bonus tracks are generally good, though the one on "agiurre" sounds suspiciously like one of the regular album tracks with a sampled ethnicky percussion loop overlayed, which sucks. The extras on "Einsjaeger..." are the best, 2 little pieces in the Hoheleid Salomos/Letze Tage..." style, IE more of the same, but bore of this same = more of what I want. I am REALLY looking forward to picking up "Das Hoheleid Salomos", "Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht" and "Der Nacht der Seele", because they are my favourites. I'm also interested to hear what's on "Cobra Verde" because I remember there being tow different versions of this when it came out.

I found myself getting faintly annoyed at how little Danny Fischelsher got mentioned in the blurb. That seems unfair somehow.

It would be good if they also issued "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Gawd, I wish I could type better.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I was wondering if the bonus tracks were any good or not. There's a whole album of Popol Vuh vocal music that was released privately in the mid-to-late 70s (can't remember the title) - where has that disappeared to I wonder? Plus there's film music that's never been released.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Pick up the "Einsjaeger..." reissue if you see it and see what you think.

I should also point out that all the reissues I bought have the proper dynamics, IE they haven't been loudness-maximised. Honestly, I was so relieved about this that I had a lump in my throat! (true!)

A little while ago, I also picked up the reissue of "shepherd's Symphony" (or whatever it's called) from the same series. It's really bad.

Also Also Also!!! ! I tried to play my CD of "For You and Me" the other night, and it had self-destructed!! All the metal foil had come away from the plastic disc!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Agape-Agape" and "Spirit of Peace" both sound really crap, I hope they re-master those albums

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The "Agape-Agape" reissue sounded pretty good to me, though I didn't have that one on Spalax anyway, just my old vinyl copy. My CD of "Letzte Tage..." sounds pretty horrible to me, great though I think the music is.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The production on "Letzte Tage" is very odd, incredibly dense, I think that's deliberate, 10,000 guitars on every track

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
WTF was I thinking? I listened to "Agape Agape" on headphones last night, and it sounds like shit!! It sounds like they did a vinyl transfer, and there was a big knot of fluff on the needle! Man... I guess I must have listened to it quietly when I first got it. It's such a good album as well...

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 7 February 2005 13:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the original spalax CD sounds like that too... hope it's not on the master, though it probably is, "Why Do I Still Sleep" sounds like a very personal recording of a solo that just had the mood, so got included...

been listening to Nosferatu a lot recently. I would rate that one much higher than dadaismus does, but I rate the spare minimal electronics much higher, and think they balance out the other lovely band parts... actually I'd even say it's a good place to start for the atmospheric side of the band. With Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte being a good place to start for the transcendental heavy rock side.

(Jon L), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Listening to Hosianna Mantra now, want to check out Letzte Tage.

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The bonus tracks on "Einsjaeger" are, in fact, two minutes worth of "Take the Tention High" from "Spirit of Peace" and a entire track lifted, unaltered, from "Nacht der Seele". Oh well, thought it was too much to hope for actual unreleased material.

Dadrock, Meshach and Abednego (Dada), Friday, 8 April 2005 11:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think it wmight be a musicologist's dissertation in the making: cataloging the repeated material of the PV discography and finding out the actual musician's credit and instrumentation for each album...

Joe (Joe), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
I think it's time for me to start exploring PV. My local shop only has 'Nosferatu' and 'Agape Agape'. Which one should I get first? Or should I hold out until I find the earlier stuff?

Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

of those two, definitely Nosferatu -- the last two tracks on Agape are fantastic but otherwise not the best intro

seriously, dadaismus' pocket reviews up there are gold, though Nosferatu & Aguirre are two of my absolute favorites precisely because they mix the electronic & rock sides of the band so well, some people don't like the minimal moog solos

milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

deebz OTM way up thread with "aguire"

i haven't heard that much of their stuff, tho.

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ian, get one Einsjager & Siebenjager!

Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 22:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I would hold out. Get one of their earlier albums...

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 21 July 2005 00:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Know what I love? Sei Still, Wisse Ich Bin. I think it's a later album, but it's something else.

and I'd like to second Florian's appearance in Kaspar Hauser. Heartbreaking. Kaspar listens to Florian play the piano, never having experienced art and music and it's power before, and says something along the lines of "why does my heart feel so heavy?"

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 21 July 2005 03:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Affenstunde is fabulous; I've had an LP of it for about 30 years, and I found the original CD of it in Germany, probably '92 or so - it's been re-issued? Great.

SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

So in the end, I managed to find Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht. Not at all what I was expecting but its pretty fantastic.

Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
okay i went nuts this weekend and bought a shitload of these reissues from a tower records. i was so happy to find them all in one place so i got:
aguirre
in den garten pharaos
affenstunde
seligpreisung
letze tage, letze nachte
hosianna mantra

so i'm listening to the first in the list, aguirre, on headphones and... WTF THERE ARE LOUD VINYL POPS ALL OVER THIS BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't even want to listen to the others now. all i can think about is the money i shelled out for SHITTY VINYL TO CD TRANSFERS.

amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

okay i've calmed down a tiny bit. i just compared aguirre with this cd comp i have featuring an aguirre track. the sound quality is def. better on this rerelease, the stereo range esp., but that popping and crackling... could it actually be on the tape itself? so far "in den garten pharaos" sounds incredible.

amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

AFAIK, all "Aguirre" releases are semi-bootleg, I don't know that Florian Fricke ever sanctioned any of them - in fact, he said, regarding the original album, that somebody had "stolen" the tapes and put them out without his knowledge (likewise the "Yoga" album). I don't know if any of these CDs are from original master tapes, I don't know if the original masters of the music from "Aguirre" even exist anymore.

Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

thanks! i was worried that these were all going to be like those Fall cd rereleases that were straight from vinyl, skips and all. i listened through the rest of the cds and the only other things i heard pops on were the two "in den garten pharaos" bonus tracks.

i'm really amazed at how good these albums are. and i've only got about half of them. apparently when you line all the cds up the spines will form an image which i believe is the same one of fricke on the back cover. the repetitive booklets seem kind of lazy but whatever.

anyone notice how Black Dice sound like "Affenstunde"?

amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm also disappointed about the general booklets and the complete lack of album specific content...
I got Letzte Tage, which one should I go for next?

Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Einsjager", "Das Hohelied Salomos" and "Herz aus Glas" are in a similar (rocky) vein

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

where can the full "spirit of peace" thing be found? is it on a rerelease?

amon (eman), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 01:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
as Dadaismus mentions upthread, many Popol Vuh fans await some of the unreleased? music from the films Aguirre and The Great Ecstasy Of The Woodcarver Steiner. THE tune I want (have wanted for 20+ years since I first saw Aguirre) features in both, if I remember. it appears in Aguirre while the roiling river is shown - as the relentless chaotic grind of nature burbles furiously - eternal suspended out-of-time chords like a bowed guitar effect (volume control fade-ups?) sound. this same music opens Steiner, soundtracking his slow-motion flight.

the music for both films is credited to Fricke. and it's easily possible to imagine this piece made by Popol Vuh, although it doesn't sound quite like anything else I've heard by them. could it be the piece is by someone else? (if so, ideas please?!) however, similar chords seem to sound in some more Vuh-like music that appears later in Steiner - so maybe it's just an intro to a longer piece.

due to the number of comments all around (check internet) about unreleased Herzog Popol Vuh, I'm guessing the same piece struck a chord with others...

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 18 March 2006 05:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Does anyone know if there's a place on the web that has Popol Vuh's lyrics? I want to figure out a line that Fricke is singing on one of the songs on Seligspreisung...

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

http://www.venco.com.pl/~acrux/selig.htm

1. "Selig sind, die da hungern
Selig sind, die da dürsten nach Gerechtigkeit
Ja, sie sollen satt werden." 5:59

2. "Tanz der Chassidim" 3:12

3. "Selig sind, die da hier weinen
Ja, sie sollen später lachen." 5:07

4. "Selig sind, die da willig arm sind
Ja, ihrer ist das Himmelreich." 3:10

5. "Selig sind, die da Leid tragen
Ja, sie sollen getröstet werden." 3:39

6. "Selig sind die Sanfmütigen
Ja, sie werden einst die Erde erben." 2:30

7. "Selig sind, die da reinen Herzens sind
Ja, sie sollen Gott schauen." 2:33

8. "Ja, sie sollen Gottes Kinder heissen
Agnus dei, Agnus dei." 2:39

o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Excellent! Thanks a lot for the post...
I was trying to figure out Track #6 (breathtaking song). I caught the "Ja, sie werden" but couldn't make out the rest of it.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

actually the rest of that site is pretty good. thought this was kind of funny:

"YOGA is an unauthorized release. Some Indian musicians visited me in my studio, and somebody else took the tapes and sold them under the name of Popol Vuh, but it had nothing to do with Popol Vuh, really. I'm playing harmonium and organ. I think it was released in Italy."

Florian Fricke, interview on Eurock.com

o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...
Pashmina, does the Agape-Agape remastered CD sound worse than the vinyl record to you? I'm wondering if I should bother getting it on CD - I'd like to do this with many of my albums for space reasons, but I don't want to get something that sounds worse than what I already have.

Pangolino 2, Monday, 17 April 2006 23:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

letzte tage letzte nachte is so good!

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yes, Letzte is still far and away my favorite of theirs...The "Harum Dei Rarum Dei" chant is very beautiful, the way it shifts from minor to major key.

Joe (Joe), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Das Hohelied Salomos is where it's at.

nervous.gif (eman), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 04:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I read that SPV are reissuing Sei Still, weisse ICH BIN, For You and Me, Cobra Verde and Brueder des Schattens, Soehne des Lichts on CD in their digipack series. Didn't their edition of the Nosferatu soundtrack have all of "Brueder des Schattens..." except with a short version of the title song along the music that was on the old "Nosferatu" LP? I was hoping they'd be clearing up some of the weirdness in the catalogue with the reissues, but maybe not. I guess "Spirit of Peace" isn't out yet, either, but they'll be dealing with all the different labels Popol Vuh were on in the late 70's onward, so maybe these last ones are trickier.

Ricki Belloni (Pangolino 3), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 04:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Just picked up Sei Still, weisse ICH BIN. really nice choir vocals throughout. Now all I need is Brueder des Schattens, Soehne des Lichts.
I also saw a new Popol Vuh compilation on SPV called 70s Progressives. As far as I could tell it was stuff from other albums but not entirely sure. Anyone know if any of the tracks are unreleased? Here is the Amazon listing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F7MB1Y/104-2466127-0630344?v=glance&n=5174

Q('.'Q) (eman), Saturday, 10 June 2006 22:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

woot

a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh i guess i need cobra verde too. man i'm so ghey for this group.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

and thx for the emusic link, i'm using the free trial to get them shits

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Actually a lot of the bonus trax on these releases look as if they're well worth having - but do they actually give you any proper information on what they are and where they're from? The titles of some of the tracks look suspiciously made up too - i.e., record company find untitled piece on tape, "Uhhhhhhhh, what will we call this one?" "How 'bout "King Minos Part 4" or "Aguirre Part 27"?"

Il mio nome e' Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 June 2006 08:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

There's no information about the extras. The reissues are dissapointing generally in this respect.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 June 2006 09:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

haa yeah bonus tracks.. more like bogus tracks. they remind me of the bonus tracks on the amon duul 2 remasters where they are just slightly varied alternate versions of tracks on other albums. i think the only exception to this so far is the long one on "affenstunde", which turns out to be better than the actual album. otherwise they aren't really anything to get worked up about. if i get a chance, i'll go through and list matching bonus tracks to albums.

listened to some of cobra verde last night, half of it sounds like a gas album without the buried house thump, fucking awesome.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yo eman, if you want to settle for a tape of Brueder Des Schattens... let me know. hell, i could probably rip the thing. it's only like four tracks or something.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ian, got it already but thanks. i'll probably end up buying it anyway

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the two bonus tracks on In den Gärten des Pharaos treated me really well. reminded me of that '71 beat club TV piece, when they were just doing slabs of moog drone -- very simple stuff but their aim is true

that 'Train Through Time' track on the Affenstunde reissue I like better than the album!

the Aguirre bonus track is basically the title theme one more time with one extra overdub, probably not worth buying the album again if you've already got it, but I don't mind hearing it three times a sitting

very curious about that 70's Progressives compilation, someone figure out what that is and post back.

I still don't have all the 70's albums, I'm kind of spacing out the purchases at this point, savoring each new one. I just finally bought Hosianna Mantra, zero gravity

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

70's progs comp is just like "the best-loved songs of PV," as far as i could tell - i just saw it for the first time the other night

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

tracklisting for "70s Progressives" w/ album names

1. Wanderer Am Himmel 8:18 (?)
2. They Danced, They Laughed, As Of Old 4:50 (Agape-Agape)
3. Eastern Sunrise 4:12 (?)
4. Am Tor 3:47 (?)
5. Love-Love 5:24 (Agape-Agape)
6. Der Große Krieger 3:10 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
7. Wo Bist Du? 5:40 (Der Nacht der Seele)
8. Dort Ist Der Weg 4:29 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
9. In Deine Hände 3:01 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)
10. Calling You 4:42 (?)
11. Oh Wie Nah Ist Der Weg Hinab 4:36 (Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte)

the 4 tracks i couldn't place only had a reference to what looks like another comp. called "florian fricke"
http://www.progarchives.com//Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6250

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

AMG sez they're from Herz aus Glas

a.b. (alanbanana), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ah there you go then. what's up with the track titles differing between amazon and amg?

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Downloaded three albums *for free* from emusic last night, Affenstunde, Hosianna Mantra, and Einsager whatever. Could have had four if it wasn't for the extra tracks, and too lazy to work this out beforehand, so I got three Colourbox tracks as well.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 13:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Just got the two fer, Einsjäger und Siebenjäger/Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte at Wayside, a great deal for $18. I'm loving the serpentine guitar solos on Letzte -- a few moments almost sounded like Television!

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

... I often describe Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing as a cross between David Gilmour and Tom Verlaine... in fact, I'm surprised I hadn't done so on this thread till now!

One Man's Mede Is Another Man's Persian (Dada), Friday, 8 September 2006 09:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Up above I forgot to mention this album:

http://www.enricobassi.it/playsmozartfrontpic.JPG

... which I haven't heard, but I think I can imagine what it sounds like, and which I used to see a lot in one record shop in Glasgow and almost bought until I realised I was a fan not a fool

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So, are these albums all worthless then or what?

Sing, For Song Drives Away The Wolves
Shepherd's Symphony
For Me And You
City Raga

I see them around cheap-ish, but life's too short to be a completist if they really are that bad.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've played "Shepherd's Symphony" once and "City Raga", errrrrrrr, once also - so I wouldn't bother, personally. I quite like some of "For Me And You" (the bits that sound like Popol Vuh funnily enough). Never heard "Sing, For Song Drives Away The Wolves", it's re-recordings or re-mixings (sic) of old material, don't see the attraction in that.

However, have heard good reports on "Messa Di Orfeo", which is from 1999ish, have never actually seen a copy tho.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 08:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Messa di Orfeo seems kind of hard to find. It was only issued by some European label. I spent a while looking for it on Gemm.com, but never found a really good price. From what I heard of it on last.fm, it sounds amazing though. Way way better than the other Popol Vuh album I ended up buying.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Played "City Raga" again, it's rubbish, avoid it like the plague, I beseech thee

TS: Mick Ralphs v. Ariel Bender (Dada), Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Daniel Fichelscher's guitar playing is awesome and inspirational. Remember when ILM was informative ?

Geordie Racer, Friday, 1 June 2007 12:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

messa di orfeo is actually pretty good

am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 14:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Still not heard it. It's Florian tho and not Guido Hieronymous clogging everything up and ruining it?

Tom D., Friday, 1 June 2007 14:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

right

Messa di Orfeo (Spalax, 1998) documents a 1998 multimedia installation by Fricke (keyboards), Fiedler (video), Guillermina De Germano (vocals) and Maya Rose (vocals)

am0n, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This reminds me that I gotta get Cobra Verde OST this month when my eMusic creds refresh.

The big question about Fichelscher is where the hell is he? What does he do with his hands instead of doing that Kleiner Krieger thang?

Jon Lewis, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

hey the search engine's finding this thread again, it was lost for a while. I was trying to wake it up to say how good Messa di Orfeo is.

the first time the recitational comes on, I thought 'ok I could listen to that woman's voice forever', and was happyy when it turns out they were thinking exactly the same thing. and the return to electronics really works -- the sampled crickets & insect harmonics are great. finally found a copy of the CD this weekend and the booklet's filled with color photos of the recording sessions & installation, including De Germano at the mic and a picture of the huge chorus.

also been listening to Hosianna Mantra a _lot_ these last few months. you really have to be in a wispy mood I guess but sometimes I think this one's my favorite

Milton Parker, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

lately i've been listening to:
-bruder des schattens-sohne des lichts
-Letzte Tage, Letzte Nächte
-Herz aus Glas

that mid seventies stuff reallllly does it for me.

ian, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

remembered to check for pv on emusic, got four albs, and the first three tracks of hosianna mantra have been blowing my mind all day

69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 20:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

i guess i gotta listen to that one again. My copy has a bit of surface noise and it always agitates me. Does emusic have Bruder des Schattens? That's my fave, probably.

ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah it does - i ran out of DL's though before i could get it

69, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

emusic has k-vuh.

Even Cobra Verde.

It's all in the recent remaster versions, which are not always superior to previous editions, but mostly fine.

Jon Lewis, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hosianna Mantra is probably my favorite, though it doesn't really compare to any of the others (not rock, not electronic, less clay binding it to the ground)

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

i need an LP copy of the aguirre soundtrack, if anyone has one to spare. even a crappy bootleg! ("need")

ian, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 21:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Classic ILM thread!

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 22:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

However, have heard good reports on "Messa Di Orfeo", which is from 1999ish, have never actually seen a copy tho.

Finally got to hear this. It's nice, not an out-and-out classic, but very worthwhile and good that the last thing Florian recorded (or the last that was released) was something of a return to his roots: experimental, electronic and, unlike most latter day Popol Vuh, not a misguided (or misGuidoed) attempt to be down with the kidz. A live recording I believe.

Also heard "Yoga", which is also a nice album but really has nothing much to do with Popol Vuh. Apparently it was recorded by Florian Fricke, and he may have played harmonium on it, but it was released without his permission.

Next stop is to finally get to hear "Die Erde und ich sind eins", an album of vocal chants, which was a private release, credited solely to Florian Fricke.

Tom D., Thursday, 6 March 2008 15:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DON-CogKcfk

=)

am0n, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q19C220Vvo

am0n, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks!

ian, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 14:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

kyrie is definitely top 5 vuh jams

69, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 00:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

we jammed that one at your place after the FMU fair!

69, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 00:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

, ian

69, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 00:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

If ever a band warranted a box set, it's this one

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

ahh, man, i'm floatin in the pharao's garten.

LOUT of ICHOR (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 26 October 2008 08:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

i got a copy of aguirre sdtrk a few weeks ago.
lovin it.

the really do need a box set.

ian, Sunday, 26 October 2008 18:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

goddamn, i don't think there's ever been a band where i've said to myself more often "ah, this is the last one i need!" and been wrong every time. i mean, i THINK i've got everything, then i notice how many soundtracks they did. and "yoga." and that guido hieronymous shit, though i doubt i need those.

open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 12:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

also, some of the recurring themes on "coeur de verre" remind me of "hiroshima" by flower travellin' band.

open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 12:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

What albums that on? "Hiroshima", I mean.

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Friday, 14 November 2008 13:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

"made in japan"

open the BLOOD gates! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 14 November 2008 13:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

guido heironymous albs are pretty bad....

Yeah, there's a number of the piano/drums/guitar albums that are basically the same kind of stuff, probably somehat repetitive if you don't dig PV*, but I find that I can never have too much of it, somehow.

(*If you actively dislike Popol Vuh, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything. etc etc)

Pashmina, Friday, 14 November 2008 13:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

Probably said something similar upthread, but Daniel Fichelscher has got to be THE underrated "sleeper" guitarist's guitarist, how he isn't better-known is a mystery to me. I've never read an article about him in a guitar magazine once.

Pashmina, Friday, 14 November 2008 13:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

craig sager (eman), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

"wo bist du?" (einsjager bonus track) sounds a LOT like six organs of admittance. (this is a fantastic thread, by the way)

kamerad, Sunday, 15 February 2009 21:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

hosianna mantra really did it for me at 4am when i was drunkenly trying to settle in for bed. i dozed off and when i woke couldn't quite remember what record i had put on--it was THAT GOOD!

ian, Monday, 16 February 2009 18:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

i've been really into this stuff lately. it's totally fitting these guys would inspire those painstaking, loving descriptions dadaismus supplies up above

kamerad, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, feller did a great job of those write ups.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

cœur de verre is such great sunny summer sunday morning music i could listen to "blätter aus dem buch der kühnheit" on repeat sipping bloody marys till lunch

kamerad, Sunday, 19 July 2009 14:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

I am doing that annoying thing where a person bumps a thread just to say how much s/he loves something, but that said

I could probably listen to Popol Vuh once a day for the rest of my life and never really truly get tired of hearing them. I listened to Brüder des Schattens the other day and I'm still thinking about how much I enjoyed it.

Has anyone been to those events in London where one of their albums is played in an ancient church or something like that? I see updates on facebook but I am in no position to attend any events in London. Just wondering.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have been tempted but not been to one

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Please go and then tell us all about it.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

As long as it's not full of Goths and hippies

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

... nah, that wouldn't be so bad

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was wondering: who goes to such an event? That's part of the report I expect, btw.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

I went to the first one (Affenstunde and In Den Garten Pharoahs), once we got over the slight strangeness of the situation it was very nice - good sound system, candles, mmm. Bit of a strange thing to pay £5 for but until Daniel Fichelscher plays it live again (doubtful - did they ever even play live in the first place?) it'll have to do.

Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha i don't know if i like this idea or not

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

did they ever even play live in the first place?

Yes. Fricke/Fichelscher/Djong Yun line-up, I believe.

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Who goes? Um, some middle-aged record collector types (had to move to a different part of the church to get away from their "witty" sardonic comments and beer breath), a few Hoxton hipsters, dunno really. Didn't see any goths. No psychobillies either.

Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

... there's even a bootleg of a gig!

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hope the T dream series stops before the 1980s era.

Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh I don't know, some of that's OK too

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

How about the 90s?

Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't be silly

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

i have a couple live boots, one is "1973 baumberg kirche germany" and the other is from 1976 with some live roberto cacciapaglia(!)

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've got those, but second is not Popol Vuh at all?

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

how did everyone do just sitting there still for so long? was there audible fidgeting? was the music really loud?

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

The music wasn't very loud, the worst noise pollution came from the back of the hall where they were selling cans of beer - lots of popping, clanking and fizzing. Problem solved by moving nearer the front! I had a similarly strange feeling at a Messiaen organ recital in Westminster Abbey a couple of years ago, as the organist was obviously hidden away, resulting in a "where do I look?" conundrum. The audience were better behaved at that one though, and they weren't selling beers at the back of the Abbey either, which helped.

Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've got those, but second is not Popol Vuh at all?

really? def sounds like them

http://www.popolvuh.nl/?q=pvlive

In 1975 they visited again Italy for a concert at the University ‘La Statale’ of Milan, somewhere in september. The concert was promoted by the 'Gong' magazine (a magazine about progressive-experimental rock), after R.U. Kaiser established an agreement with the PDU label for licensing the Ohr/Pilz/DKK records in Italy.
The concert was opened by a very young Roberto Cacciapaglia, who played a part of 'Sonanze'. For this occasion Popol Vuh consisted of: Florian Fricke (piano and voice), Daniel Fichelscher (guitars) and Renate Knaup (vocals and percussion).
There exists a tape/bootleg from this concert.

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh maybe I haven't got that one!

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh man, selling beers? that's what i was afraid of. i'm getting a better picture of this event already.
guess i shouldn't begrudge people the joy of purchasing beers, but...i dunno. i get it now. i still think it would be enjoyable, but definitely sit near the front.

also why was it not really super loud? i would want it to be so loud that i couldn't even think of anything else.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ live '75

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol this "play popol vuh albums in a church" thing is weird! is this a specifically popol vuh thing, or do they do other artists? i guess the tangerine dream pic suggests they do. i guess i can imagine going ...

tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

is that milan show a decent recording?

tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

i saw mention of an upcoming ash ra tempel one somewheres

tylerw - its kinda hissy and muffled

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

He's used to Velvets bootlegs, that won't bother him!

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

They're organised by these guys : http://www.sonic360.com/
I think they were talking about doing Ash Ra Tempel too maybe? Easier than organising a tribute band...

xpost

Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Who am I kidding, I'm already downloading it. Thanks for the link!

tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

i love popol vuh tons and tons and tons but i couldn't imagine going to sit in a church and drink beer to hear one of their records.

ian, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think they were talking about doing Ash Ra Tempel too maybe? Easier than organising a tribute band...

Finding someone who can play like Manuel Gottsching might be tricky...

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

i can imagine going to sit in a church and smoke w33d to hear one of their records ... are there rules about that?

tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

You'd have to ask the vicar. Hey, it's in Hoxton...

Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the vicar will roll one for you on the way in

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

now you're talkin

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's called a camberwell carrot because it was invented in camberwell and it resembles a carrot.

Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

dude wants to get you high and play you In den Gärten Pharaos

tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

and save your eternal soul, natch

tylerw, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

was hoping it would be this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R89oERKCaU

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gobscheit <--- any realtion to Grobschnitt?

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^^ would be amazing name for a band parodying 3rd tier krautrock!!!

Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

the only vuh album i have is herz aus glas and i love it. what should i get next?

urkel pit (electricsound), Thursday, 13 May 2010 23:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

bruder des schattens and letzte tage letzte nacht are both solid and similar in vibe.

ian, Thursday, 13 May 2010 23:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

what he said, and tantric songs is good too if you're feeling it

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Friday, 14 May 2010 00:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

dear lord 'aguirre' is gooooorgeous

kamerad, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 03:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Love that first cover- it's a Herzog megamix!

Neil S, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 10:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

That first comp pictured above was my introduction to PV, I'd actually recommend it as a good starting point.

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

both of those covers are intense!

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Die Grosse Ekstase die Bildschnitzers Steiner (The Great Ecstasy of the Woodcarver Steiner) (director: Werner Herzog, 1973)
This is a typically idiosyncratic Herzog documentary on the Swiss show jumper, Walter Steiner. Features some lovely Popol Vuh music, music which I’ve yet to hear on any album – damn it!

Has any of the music for this ever been released? It drives me crazy that I can't find the main theme for this film anywhere.

SoftDog (MaresNest), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 22:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://vimeo.com/18046748

^^ lunar eclipse video, watch while listening to 2 min pv song of your choice

my choices: ...als lebten die Engel auf Erden (pretty) or mantra of the touching of the earth (scary)

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

shit totally forgot to watch that eclipse

old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

it was snowing here so i had to rely on the video :(

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

guess i missed the geminids meteor shower too haha (dec. 13)

this needs reposting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DON-CogKcfk

old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Nice-looking boxset, though it's just five of the SPV soundtracks and no bonus tracks:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51K%2B%2BrahEoL._SS400_.jpg

**Super luxurious, Limited edition 5CD collector's box including 98-page hardback book** The divine music of Popol Vuh is inextricable from the Werner Herzog films it soundtracks. German label SPV have compiled their body of five full length cinematic commissions Heart of Glass (1976), and the Klaus Kinski-starring Aguirre (1972), Nosferatu (1979), Fitzcarraldo (1982) and Cobra Verde (1987) in one beautiful box set. Scoring Herzog's 'Aguirre', Popol Vuh, lead by Florian Fricke, established a longstanding relationship with the director, providing him with a milestone of electronic music which is still named as a masterpiece to this day. Fricke's innately moving compositions presaged the electronic ambient and new age genres, incorporating avant-garde classical, religious music, prog and krautrock themes into a substantial, harmonically rich sound. As fellow krautrock pioneer Klaus Schulze says "Here, he went on to create a new world, which Werner Herzog loves so much, transforming the thought pattern of electronic music into the language of acoustic ethno music" perfectly reflecting the films inherent themes of humanity, religion and nature. Over the next fifteen years Fricke's musical evolution was charted by his work for Herzog, weaving increasingly elaborate instrumentation into the electronic fabric of his compositions. Between his captivating choral work for Nosferatu, the operatic classicism of Fitzcarraldo, or the breathtaking lushness of Cobra Verde, Fricke and Popol Vuh inspired a generation and re-defined the art of the soundtrack. This box set is a tremendous testament to his accomplishments - grab one while you can.

Can your monkey do the Bot? (seandalai), Thursday, 20 January 2011 14:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

vinyl box of hard to find stuff, please!

stirmonster, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

pleeeeeease
that i would buy

a box of 5 albums i already have with a book? only if i had a gift card that needed to be spent. lovelovelove these albums but i already have them and i'm not crazy enough to double up on cds.

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

WANT

WANT SO BAD

children of the church planters (Edward III), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

^

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

could listen to this till the end of time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u7vzaqITMA

children of the church planters (Edward III), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Aguirre is the only own I already own out of those five.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Same here, though the fact that they're all on Spotify makes me substantially less likely to shell out £40. It does look nice though.

Can your monkey do the Bot? (seandalai), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah kinda want this -- don't have cobra verde or heart of glass. box is not terribly expensive, given that it's "super luxurious"

tylerw, Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

already have most of these, curious about the book but not enough to buy it

am0n, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

coeur de verre is one of my favorites of all of their records -- get it immediately!

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, I have heard it.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Zsl3kJlVc

am0n, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

so good

tylerw, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

revive!!

here's the latest reissue, with a disc of remixes by Moritz von Oswald, Stereolab, etc:

http://www.factmag.com/2011/05/20/popol-vuh-remixed-by-moritz-von-oswald-stereolab-and-more/

geeta, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've been waiting for this to come out!! It's even on my calendar. Have you heard it?

Garyln (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

june 24th -- i guess i'm going to be reviewing it? i'm trying to figure out who's working the promo for this. it's not forced exposure.

geeta, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

i guess i'm only really interested in disc 2 since i could assemble disc 1 myself, but w/e

Garyln (La Lechera), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 19:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

oh man i thought this came out on june 24, and i started to get excited, but then i realized it was july 24 :(

Fa la la (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

ah. it's already out in germany, but it won't be coming out til july 24 in the US.

geeta, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

just got my hands on this--reviewing it for the Voice.

my favorite remixes: 'In den Gärten Pharaos' remixed by Moritz von Oswald, 'Nachts: Schnee' remixed by Mika Vainio

the Thomas Fehlmann remix of 'Schnee' is also very nice

'Through Pain to Heaven' remixed by Mouse on Mars is super glitchy, sounds like Mouse on Mars circa 'Radical Connector'

not really feeling the Stereolab remix of 'Hosianna Mantra'

geeta, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

cool, sounds interesting. did anyone buy that soundtracks box set? i still haven't dropped the $$$. convince me to do it! is the book pretty?

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 19:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Still loving the Moritz remix...it's kind of refreshing to hear him making straight up techno again after all that Moritz von Oswald Trio stuff

The Stereolab remix I have more time for, after listening to it a few more times...but there's something very mysterious about the original, and Stereolab's take on it sounds very Stereolab, and not mysterious at all

geeta, Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

i finally got a record by these suckas!

it's good

aguirre it's call, think it's a film soundtrack, got it on vinyl at a garage sale

it's kinda like if cluster and the grateful dead made a record together

the beta banned (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

next step you should see the movie! it's the bessssst. it's like if david lean and the grateful dead made a movie together.

tylerw, Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

next next step: get another pv record

Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

When love is calling you, turn around

Trip Maker, Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

ahhhhhhh

Fa la la (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 July 2011 20:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

two things:

* wanted but did not buy aguirre LP b/c it was 25 euros -- is that ridiculous or am i crazy?!?!
* listened to heart of glass while walking through an aquarium, it was totally awesome, took these pictures

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5943113488_39c77754e5.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6003/5943102858_09729fc8bf.jpg

still haven't received my remixes yet, but waiting patiently

Fa la la (La Lechera), Monday, 25 July 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Excellent! Those jellyfish are like flying saucers apart from that one weird ghost dude on the right.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Monday, 25 July 2011 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

really fucking great pictures, way to go. you srsly added to an already rad thread.

69, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:01 (six years ago) Permalink

man I thought that diving suit was a painting, the lighting is uncanny

ogmor, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

yea, those are wild!

original bgm, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

reminds me of this guy's pics

69, Monday, 25 July 2011 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

thanks! i have others (the one of a turtle floating serenely through space is a personal fave) but haven't gotten around to vacation photo organization yet.

Fa la la (La Lechera), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:17 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Aside from Ian, whose wedding inspired this fine jpg, the only other people on earth likely to appreciate the magic of this are the people who would click on this thread:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6074/6026740889_67e484325b.jpg

As for the remix album, my mixed feelings are sort of coalescing into a dull appreciation of several tracks. I like the Mouse on Mars, Stereolab, and Alex Barck remixes the best, but mostly I like the ones where I can actually hear the PV song.

Q: is remixed krautrock/cosmische what beardo disco is? i truly have no idea.

it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 14:56 (six years ago) Permalink

that's my pup

it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 14:56 (six years ago) Permalink

aquarium pix are AMAZING

chief content officer (m coleman), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Love it!
Can't help you with the beardo question.
I want to start a Popol Vuh tribute act.
Maybe I just want to see one. Maybe not.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

I would totally see a PV tribute act -- don't have the skills to be in one by anyone's standards though. I could be the svengali behind it, I suppose.

Would need a visual component too -- I'd like to see some National Geographic cutting room floor nature stuff from the 70s and 80s? Can you imagine?! There must be a ton of material out there.

it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm in the process of recording a version of "cortez the killer" that is (hopefully) in the vein of the vuh's aguirre sdtk. it sounds rad in my mind. don't know if it'll come out rad. but it'll be 20-25 minutes, I think.

tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Would listen!

it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

it might be my life's work.

tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

I would totally see a PV tribute act -- don't have the skills to be in one by anyone's standards though

You only need to know one chord for a lot of their stuff!

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I suppose if someone told me what to do, I could do it. I've always appreciated the drumming.

it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Now that's difficult

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

tribute act would definitely have to dress in these. and perform underwater.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6016/5943113488_39c77754e5.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

25min cortez/aguirre hybrid TOTALLY sounds rad!

original bgm, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:29 (six years ago) Permalink

can't you just hear it? and doesn't it sound sooo good? PS NO ONE STEAL MY IDEA.

tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:34 (six years ago) Permalink

it also offers a familiar context (cortez the killer familiar to all kinds of people not likely to pick up or even listen to a PV record)

brills, now you gotta record it!!

it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:48 (six years ago) Permalink

*anticipates furiously*

original bgm, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

everyone hold your breath. it's happening.
gonna try to get this guy to guest on it. actually both of these guys. somehow.
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9FzQXECMKS1YxrVTWl6rpc0GNvPEvAbdUW_uNgboI436rYscfWQ

tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

hold my breath or hold my horses?

it was pleasant and delightful, just like (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

both

tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

title track on hosianna mantra might have the most majestic guitar solo ever

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2011 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Dadaismus' reviews upthread are all-time

A couple of weeks ago I listened to all the albums 1971-1977 and then had to listen to them again, and then again ... I think Einsjäger und Siebenjäger is my favorite right now

Brad C., Friday, 30 September 2011 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

what dadaismus did up top is inspiring. this band deserves that quality of attention

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, those reviews are GREAT and I refer to them a lot!

BTW Dadaismus = Tom D.

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

I listen to Popol Vuh a lot. Maybe too much. It always feels like not enough.

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Friday, 30 September 2011 19:42 (six years ago) Permalink

let me explain

1) what dadaismus did up top is inspiring. this band deserves that quality of attention
super duper otm. writing about popol vuh seems like it would be really hard to do, and he has done it so well and with such attention to the best details. i came to popol vuh sort of by accident, and decided it was something i should explore further, but only after maybe 10 years had passed from the first time i heard them, tangerine dream, shit like that. when i read his reviews, it was gratifying to find that his favorites were also my favorites (Brüder des Schattens, Söhne des Lichts and Herz au Glas in particular) and that there were favorites I hadn't heard yet.

2) remember that "listen to popol vuh recording while sitting in a church" event discussed upthread? i thought some time would pass and i would realize that this is a silly idea. instead, time has passed and i find myself still thinking that this sounds like an enjoyable activity, minus the people plinking their plastic beer cups.

anyway, --> actual question ----> recommended books/articles containing interesting information about popol vuh? i haven't done much reading about them tbh.

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 13:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks for all the kind words everyone! I'm no music critic but just felt the need at the time to share my thoughts on some great music. I don't know of any books on Popol Vuh. There are articles 'n' stuff online if you look, some of which are useful for reminding you that Florian Fricke et al were not a bunch of head-in-the-clouds mystics (I remember reading one where Danny Fichelscher was drunk and being obnoxious). First article I ever saw on Popol Vuh was in an old issue of Sounds by Sandy Robertson, an interview from ca. 1980.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

I did not realize a "soundtracks" PV box set had come out

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51K%2B%2BrahEoL._SS400_.jpg

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Weird I just listened to aguire this morning at breakfast, lovely album

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 October 2011 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

popol vuh rules.
still need to get that soundtracks box. i've got most of it already, but it looks so niiiiiice.

tylerw, Monday, 3 October 2011 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

i know, me too! i was (am, i guess) holding out for a vinyl version but i would really like to see the book.
i will look up that article you mentioned, tom. thanks.

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:02 (six years ago) Permalink

i lucked into a weird pressing of aguire at a garage sale for $4 :)

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

will admit that i was envious when i read that upthread

i've only even seen a PV record one time, and that was aguirre in a tiny jazz store in paris, and it was really expensive!
actually that's not true -- i have this because someone gave it to me (thanks jeff/jenny!)
http://www.amarcordrecords.it/images/rockeurope/rockpicturespopolvuhherzogre.jpg

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

The SPV remasterings are not all better than the Spalax CDs. IIRC I still prefer the Spalax releases for Herz aus Glas and Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht. Would have to go compare again...

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I have that soundtracks box and the book is kinda mostly fluff, unfortunately.

original bgm, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:00 (six years ago) Permalink

some nice pics tho.

they ketpt the same terrible remaster packaging for the individual cases (identical booklets, giant, weird fricke pic) as well.

original bgm, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:02 (six years ago) Permalink

is this the article?

http://www.popolvuh.nl/archsounds1981

otherwise the only thing i can find (maybe i am not searching well?) is this

http://www.enso-on.com/2008/09/popol-vuh-florian-fricke-1981-interview.html

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

'A CLEARER VUH-POINT' XD

original bgm, Monday, 3 October 2011 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

oops that image must have been too big

Art Arfons (La Lechera), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:31 (six years ago) Permalink

@Jon, both the Spalax and SPV versions of Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht are equally and atrociously muddy. Maybe the original tapes were that way? I still have the Spalax for Herz Aus Glas and it's good to know that I didn't need to bother with the "upgrade."

doug watson, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:14 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I re-read that 1981 article last night when I couldn't sleep, and this stuck out in particular because I am on a Herzog kick.

Both Werner Herzog and Florian Fricke have a vision that is almost religious in its intensity but lately a divergence has appeared in their ways of seeing.
Florian has no time for blissed-out hippy-trippy muzak and feels that it’s not enough to show a phoney happiness all the time, and yet despite the awesome powers at play in the light and shade of Popol Vuh he does not see himself as being at one with his friend.
Herzog revels in conflict: When he was refused permision to unleash thousands of rats on the town of Delft for a scene in ‘Nosferatu’, he met the truck bringing the rats back with a tractor on which he perched himself, forcing the truck to go in the opposite direction.
“Too much the darkness”, says Florian.

the MMMM cult (La Lechera), Monday, 14 November 2011 14:20 (six years ago) Permalink

too much the darkness indeed!

was working on my vuh/cortez the killer cover w/ my two year old this morning. think we've got the keyboard sound down!
at the rate i'm going this project will be completed sometime in 2015.

tylerw, Monday, 14 November 2011 23:26 (six years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

it has been three months
where is our cortez the killer?!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:42 (six years ago) Permalink

at the rate i'm going this project will be completed sometime in 2015 2018.

tylerw, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:49 (six years ago) Permalink

;_;

i hope the song is three years long

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:54 (six years ago) Permalink

at least that long.
until then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjBtHVOyFE

tylerw, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:06 (six years ago) Permalink

i guess that'll do.

just out of curiosity to anyone who would bother to click on this thread:

assuming you already went through the active devouring phase, how frequently do you listen to popol vuh right now?

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:46 (six years ago) Permalink

me? 1-3x per week probably, a lot for any one band by my standards. this has been going on for years. that's why i asked.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i end up listening to them whenever this thread is bumped. right now!

tylerw, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

weekly and often multiple times during the week. ususally makes my evening commute bearable

sknybrg, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:42 (six years ago) Permalink

I only listen to them once every few months. If I had more than two of their lps I would probably listen to them more.

Trip Maker, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, once every few months for me too. Always on vinyl. Faves are the first three, Affenstunde, In den Gärten Pharaos and Hosianna Mantra. I will always keep coming back to them.

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:22 (six years ago) Permalink

you are people who know how it's done.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 February 2012 00:41 (six years ago) Permalink

1-3x per week here, usually first album of the morning

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Saturday, 18 February 2012 10:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I just got a giant Amazon credit and bought their Herzog soundtracks box set, on the strength of watching Nosferatu a while back and then hearing one amazing track on a Projekt Records compilation that came from an album I was unable to even find a picture of after searching for like ten years. Next week should be fun!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

I really need a copy of Einsjager Sebenjager or whatever its called.
My favorite stuff is the Fichelscher era.

Trip Maker, Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Letzte Tage - Letzte Nachte was my second PV album and I think it's still my favorite. Honestly though I don't think there's even one I have that I don't like.

Also best cover
http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/8011614912926.jpg

Can't wait until the weather gets nicer and I can resume my weekly bike trips to the plant conservatory to walk around/look at plants/listen to spaced out PV jams. It really never gets old!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

I have about 10 of the records, and actually I listen to the early electronic stuff as much as I listen to the prime mid-'70s stuff. I really like Heart of Glass soundtrack--Popul Vuh were ultimate acoustic-space-liturgical sprawl, better at it than just about anyone. The Floyd, Mike Oldfield, I dunno. The vibe is never as...wily...as Eno can be even in the ambient stuff. More nature-mystic, perhaps? I've seen some comps of their work around; has there ever been a dedicated U.S.-aimed comp of their work?

Edd Hurt, Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I really like Heart of Glass soundtrack--Popul Vuh were ultimate acoustic-space-liturgical sprawl, better at it than just about anyone.
totally! heart of glass was my first PV album. i think? pretty sure it was, then letzte tage, then future sound experience, and at that point i was sold for life.
i could really blather on and on but there would be no point.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:08 (six years ago) Permalink

there's this weird one, but it's not really a "greatest hits" or anything
http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=4921
http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/popol-vuh.jpg
it's pretty nice though, esp. the long piano thing.

tylerw, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:09 (six years ago) Permalink

there was a 2cd "revisited and remixed" cd last year

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Revisited-Remixed-1970-99-Popol-Vuh/dp/B004UBB3QU/

1. Aguirre I Lacrima Di Rei
2. Affenstunde
3. In Den Garten Pharaos
4. Ich Mache Einen Spiegel
5. Nachts - Schnee
6. Eine Andere Welt
7. In Your Eyes
8. Train Through Time
9. Nascita
10. Bruder Des Schattens
11. Through Pain To Heaven
12. Kailash: Last Village

plus a disk of remixes by people like Mika Vainio, Mouse On Mars, Stereolab...

koogs, Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:56 (six years ago) Permalink

(also on amazon.com)

koogs, Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I listen all the time! This is a great thread, it's what pushed me to really dig into the catalog.

Letzte Tage - Letzte Nachte is the one for me, followed by Sei Still, Wisse Ich Bin (the production!!!!) although they're all really great in different ways. They also all kind of blend together in the best way possible for me, like they only actually have one song that is 10 albums long or something!

liam fennell, Sunday, 19 February 2012 02:49 (six years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

there's always 1:19 for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL8E3Q5iZsY

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

I think about that sequence every time I listen to PV. I love that little tune... it turns up in several places in the discography. (also that's my favorite Herzog film).

I like the mastering of the old Spalax version of Letzte Tage more than the 21st century remastered one available now. I hope I come across a used copy of the Spalax LT, LN someday.

bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I just checked and I have the Spalax version. There's one that sounds different than this one?

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

My LT, LN is a vinyl reissue on "Think Progressive." It is a little muddy sounding? But I love it.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm always kinda wondering whether my popol vuh stuff sounds muddy n murky because that's just the way it was recorded or whether it's been transferred in a less than optimal way. but it doesn't really matter in the end.

tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:45 (six years ago) Permalink

It's def among my favorite Herzog films too btw. The Bruno years were really really really good.

Mine sounds clear, but it's a CD -- I wish someone would reissue all of this stuff and give it the treatment and also outtakes etc.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:47 (six years ago) Permalink

(on vinyl i mean -- years of looking have yielded me zilch in terms of pv lps aside from the ONE aguirre soundtrack i found that was 40 euros, ie too much)
maybe this is naive, i dunno. but honestly i would take cutting room floor scraps of PV for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and spend my hard-earned dollars to do so.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

The one which is in print in a couple of different incarnations is from the label run by Fricke's son, that's the remaster that has been available for a decade or so. It sounds like it was decently mastered from vinyl. The Spalax sounds like it was mastered from the tapes.

There were one or two others in the remastered line which were mastered from vinyl IIRC. Heart of Glass mebbe? I have the Spalax for that one so I'm not sure.

bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

music from 'woodcarver steiner'

http://www.box.com/shared/f612eh1qsr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDLGcd9Az9w

am0n, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Awesome!

Trip Maker, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:03 (six years ago) Permalink

cool! the whole movie is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liYnvIBLMBQ

tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:06 (six years ago) Permalink

I've been listening to the soundtracks boxset very much over the past couple of weeks, and I think Aguirre is the key.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

hey thanks am0n!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:09 (six years ago) Permalink

also, I killed like three hours at work today reading about ski jumping after watching that.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 27 April 2012 03:12 (six years ago) Permalink

music from 'woodcarver steiner'

hell yeah! thanks am0n

Paul, Friday, 27 April 2012 03:28 (six years ago) Permalink

amazing how well the music fits to the ski jumping picures in slow motion. thanks, am0n, great stuff.

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:05 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.popolvuh.nl/files/baubravo72_1.jpg

... photo from this site which all Vuhheads should visit

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Holger Trülzsch, as well as being a mean bongo player, seems to have been a photographer who did a lot of work with Veruschka, the jaw-dropping 60s model, who of course donned a false beard to appear as Jesus in Florian Fricke's "Sei Still wisse ich bin"... Munich, incestuous little scene or what?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:35 (six years ago) Permalink

... also I noticed the other day that Florian's wife (soon to be wife?), Bettina, was a production assistant on Herzog's "Even Dwarfs Started Small"

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:37 (six years ago) Permalink

This is going to be the summer of Popol Vuh.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I approve of this ^^^ message!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

One Vuh-y Summer
http://www.hollywoodteenmovies.com/Cusack&Demi.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

I just heard "In Den Garten Pharoahs" (however its spelled), and, whoa. "Vuh" sounds like the music is coming at you from a mile away, just this organ *WRRREEEEEEEEEEAKKK*. Is this album good?

frogbs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:55 (six years ago) Permalink

It is... for some reason I almost never reach for it though? It's like the path PV were not destined to take

Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:07 (six years ago) Permalink

YES it is so good. I find it colder than some of the other stuff but still enjoy it frequently.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:09 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm just having trouble figuring it out now. You know how some albums are completely forgettable when you hear them quietly, but earth-shattering when you hear them loud?

frogbs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Best on headphones, preferably while lying still and prone but ymmv.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

class dude

http://www.popolvuh.nl/drupal-5.5/files/ff_sei_still_0.jpg

JoeStork, Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

also, some of the recurring themes on "coeur de verre" remind me of "hiroshima" by flower travellin' band.

3 years later and I've eventually heard the Flower Travellin' Band track and it reminds me of... the 2nd track on "Letze Tage, Letzte Nachte"

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 11:19 (six years ago) Permalink

oooooOOOOOOOOooooo it totally sounds like that but super fuzzed out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o5FZxRgRqM

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh jeez I completely forgot to play any Popol Vuh on my krautrock spotlight radio program last night.
I suppose I don't really think of PV in the same light as Can, Neu!, Faust, and Amon Duul.
Still, it's weird that I completely forgot about them. There aren't enough minutes in a two hour radio program to play all the German Prog classics, anyway.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:18 (six years ago) Permalink

hey brooklyn zoo, the record grouch as a bunch of popol vuh records on the wall right now. i haven't stopped by yet, this is on a tip from my man keegan

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:29 (six years ago) Permalink

my heart started racing a little when i read that

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:30 (six years ago) Permalink

awwww la lech! i can post a list here later after i go by and if anyone wants anything i will buy & ship.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

i think he said they had 5 or 6.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

I want to start a band that does tranced-out covers of Abba songs called Popol Voulez-Vous

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

IAN -- please! yes please!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

I suppose I don't really think of PV in the same light as Can, Neu!, Faust, and Amon Duul.

All these bands were so different; I can't really think of what the "prototypical" Krautrock band would be. I don't think Amon Duul even fits with the other three.

frogbs, Thursday, 28 June 2012 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVo6CDPzbis

am0n, Saturday, 30 June 2012 23:24 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7CXFU6PGUI

am0n, Saturday, 30 June 2012 23:26 (six years ago) Permalink

I want to have a popol vuh music video contest for students focusing on finding and editing archival footage
how awesome would that be to judge?!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, 1 July 2012 05:17 (six years ago) Permalink

A pretty great essay from Head Heritage on Aguirre:
http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/thebookofseth/popol-vuh-music-from-the-film-aguirre

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

i read that a while ago, it was a really great essay!!

pv must be the most powerful band in the world to inspire hyperbole of this magnitude, but i cannot argue with his last sentence at all.

Throughout this juxtaposition, Eternity sits above on her fat and absorptive throne of royal jelly not watching but anticipating all manifold, inevitable outcomes without a care and still it continues in its sad and joyful caresses. It’s beyond words. It’s beyond worlds. Play it at my funeral and I will be released.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Will never get tired of seeing that photo, nor of listening to Popol Vuh of all eras save City Raga.

Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Monday, 2 July 2012 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I actually kinda like City Raga. Realize it's only tangentially related to the classic-era stuff (about as much Deep Forest as Popol Vuh) but I kept it in my car for a long time, and it makes great roadtrip music.

Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Monday, 2 July 2012 18:02 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

heywaitasecond

i can post a list here later after i go by and if anyone wants anything i will buy & ship.

― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:37 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

my birthday is coming up...

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

(translation: i am feeling compelled to buy myself a present)

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i still think about these records that i didn't buy and wonder what they were.

recently i watched the demme/herzog interview thingie from the bonus disc of encounters at the end of the world and herzog goes on about how much he loves music and blablabla. then demme's like "so popol vuh...what is that?" and oh did i scoff! do some homework, demme! geez.

anyway, i was thinking about popol vuh so i thought i would bump this thread for old time's sake.

Play it at my funeral and I will be released. <--- still hits home

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 14 September 2012 23:03 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

speaking of Herzog, i recently read Every Night the Trees Disappear from cover to cover and there was NO MENTION of Popol Vuh whatsoever, which is fine -- I get the scope of the book. but still, i'd have liked one sentence? two sentences? an offhand mention?
nothing.

lots of good moments though -- i recommend the book if you're into that sort of thing. here's a sample i posted to another thread for an altogether different (worse) reason

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8492/8330412332_037b642f3d_b.jpg

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 15:31 (five years ago) Permalink

this ever get posted here?

http://thequietus.com/articles/03775-the-great-ecstasy-of-the-sculptor-popol-vuh

♨ (am0n), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 15:42 (five years ago) Permalink

good article

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah I missed that before. Especially great paragraph starting with 'Having been taught composition...'

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

i c/ped like three different paragraphs before i decided to go with a simple "good article" because i was getting too excited

cult-like devotion: activated

Popol Vuh, then, is uneasy listening, but like all the best mood music it envelops you in its own sound world, cocooning the listener in waves of sound. Fricke rarely played live and submitted to few interviews but inspired a kind of cult-like devotions amongst his fans. One of his very last projects was an audio-visual installation based around the myth of Orpheus - perhaps the 'cult' musician par excellence, of whom it was claimed his music could coax the trees and rocks into dance. He referred to the acoustically designed chambers of the installation as "good rooms", explaining in a contemporary interview, "We hear so much that we don't hear anything." Now, as music becomes increasingly the atomised personal soundtrack to every mundane activity, the music and ideas of a soundtrack composer for whom music was never background music, and always inseparable from a community of the faithful, from site and from ritual, may prove to be a much needed corrective, or cleansing purgative.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:23 (five years ago) Permalink

We hear so much that we don't hear anything

This strikes so painfully close to home for me right now. I am actually aiming to change this in my life starting today.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:29 (five years ago) Permalink

it's definitely hibernation time
also i think i read that article before when i was trying to find info about those PV listening parties in the church

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 16:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I only really discovered PV last year, while watching Nosferatu. I was struck by the music and promptly bought the Herzog soundtrack box counting on all of it being as good. At the same time I made a resolution to watch more Herzog movies. The box is awesome and gets played regularly - everything except Fitzcarraldo (although I love the movie the opera stuff on the soundtrack annoys me).

More recently, I bought Affenstunde. I like that one too. Great, moody stuff, all of it. Equally well-suited to deep listening or as background while reading.

Doctor Flange, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Florian Fricke in fact shares with the purveyors of mood music a great many concerns: the exotic fascination with faraway lands of Martin Denny, Les Baxter and the 101 Strings; the massed voices and Gregorian influence of Ray Conniff and the Swingle Singers; the use of found sounds and field recordings of Frank Clacksfield; the space-age sounds of Gershon Kingsley; the mysticism and promised healing properties of Andreas Wollenscheider's New Age music.

ok but why do i find popol vuh endlessly absorbing and yet am bored senseless by everyone else mentioned above

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 3 January 2013 10:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Because no sane person would choose to eat a bowl full of flour or a handful of butter when there's a fresh flaky delicious croissant right there on the table?

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 14:49 (five years ago) Permalink

ok but why do i find popol vuh endlessly absorbing and yet am bored senseless by everyone else mentioned above

― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, January 3, 2013 5:58 AM

theres a kitsch element to a lot of those thats more upfront so u have to be willing to put up with that (i happen to like martin denny, les baxter, ray conniff) whereas popol vuh doesn't wear the exotica/new ageness on their sleeve as much

♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought they were weird comparisons too, but i guess it's because people think of PV as "mood music" -- I'm not sure I do, really, nor could I use any of their albums as background music while reading. I'd be too distracted.

I do recommend (as I have said what seems like 1000x) listening to PV while walking through a plant conservatory or museum (esp if it has a lot of dioramas) or aquarium or other indoors/outdoors sort of place.

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:32 (five years ago) Permalink

now i want a croissant

♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Are Popol Vuh really the croissant of music?

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:35 (five years ago) Permalink

in den garten croissant.
but yeah as LL sez, being out and about with the vuh really does work -- the first time i "fell" for popol vuh outside of herzog's films was walking around government center in boston (with a walkman!) listening to a PV comp a friend had made for me. i think i was christmas shopping.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:35 (five years ago) Permalink

It's the kitsch factor that puts me off that stuff. I have listened to a couple Vangelis albums lately so I'm not totally immune. Croissants are too buttery for my tender tummy :(

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:38 (five years ago) Permalink

You were rocking non stop at a government center? In Boston?xpost

Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:40 (five years ago) Permalink

had to make those secretaries feel better

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I've never used that comparison before (was just thinking about flour and butter mostly), but croissants are pretty transcendent so I guess I'll stick with it. For me, a delicious flaky croissant is a truly sublime baked good.

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I like the comparison the more I think about it--croissants truly are transcendent--but the problem is now my brain wants to compare other bands to baked goods (specifically wondering who would be the cheese danish) and that's just a terrible idea.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

listening to Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte this morning btw. not one i reach for often because of its more rock nature, but it is sounding croissantastic right now. is that Gila album good? i've never heard it.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes, it is. I do prefer the "rock" PV albums to the soundtracks and synth epics, though.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think i'm coming around on the more rock stuff more and more.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:07 (five years ago) Permalink

the end of Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte's title track kinda sounds like the Dead.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Letzte Tage-Letzte Nachte is my favorite Popol Vuh. LOVE that album!

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:17 (five years ago) Permalink

And I hope it never gets remastered because I love that muddy sound, whether intentional or not. :)

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

deplorable lack of PV on Spotify, but at least they have Tantric Songs, which I haven't heard elsewhere

Brad C., Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

xp - oh god me too
and the cover is one of my favorite album covers of all time

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:19 (five years ago) Permalink

it is funny, whenever i start playing popol vuh record, i think, "man, they should have recorded this better," but by the end of it, i do not think that at all. <3 the mud!

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

damn it, the only Gila album I can find on mog

https://search.mog.com/v2/albums/38135579/image.jpeg?size=800

it's probably pretty good tho, right?

tylerw, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

LT-LN is not as muddy on the Spalax CD as it is on the SPV CD.

I like Herz aus Glas a wee bit more than LT-LN if truth be told. It's kind of perfect. LT-LN doesn't quite live up to 'Grosse Krieger' IMO.

The Gila album (Wounded Knee, not the one above) is definitely worth owning. It's not going to overhaul your world but it's good.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

still don't have this oop pv album but someone put the whole thing on yootoob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KFc1Uon-w

♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I like Herz aus Glas a wee bit more than LT-LN if truth be told. It's kind of perfect. LT-LN doesn't quite live up to 'Grosse Krieger' IMO.

I've never been able to decide which one I like better. Every time I think it's one, the other one comes along and ~whoa~

passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I consider my 2nd fave PV album to be Bruder des Schattens aka the alternate version of Nosferatu. When I want innigkeit piano chamber Vuh. LT-LN coming in a close 3rd.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

still think this is the high point of their rock side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wQTOX8iokM

♨ (am0n), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:28 (five years ago) Permalink

See what I want is a whole album of track 1 of Einsjager... that's pure guitar bliss right there

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:53 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^^^

silver pozole (clouds), Friday, 4 January 2013 23:11 (five years ago) Permalink

All my student neighbors are still gone for the break, so the other night I was playing Bruder des Schattens, Aguirre, and Das Hohelied Salomons really loud.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:02 (five years ago) Permalink

You know how to live!

bish borscht (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I really like their rockin' stuff; it has this regal majestic flavor to it that is irresistible.

2am chopped top (brimstead), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I think right now Hosianna Mantra and Seligpreisung are my favorite Popol Vuh records. I've been listening to them on the 45 minute drive to work as the sun is coming up and Oklahoma is frozen, it's nice.

JacobSanders, Saturday, 5 January 2013 03:12 (five years ago) Permalink

^^ that sounds wonderful

two things:

* i have some croissants in the oven (just the rise-overnight kind, nothing fancy) and they smell divine.
* there's a goofy women's dance party thing that i dj'ed yesterday, and we have to do a warm-up and cool-down song and i chose "sing, for song drives away the wolves" as my cool down song -- i looked around the hot hot hot dance studio and there was stretching, meditating, yoga, eyes closed, eyes open. perfect and totally heavenly.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 14:43 (five years ago) Permalink

every time I see this thread I think of Kevin Federline's "Popozao"

frogbs, Monday, 14 January 2013 14:50 (five years ago) Permalink

you know, in Portuguese, it means bring your ass, on the floor and move it real fast

frogbs, Monday, 14 January 2013 14:51 (five years ago) Permalink

haha
i shoulda put that on my dance mix

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 14:52 (five years ago) Permalink

u should use http://www.discogs.com/Popol-Vuh-Yoga/release/799452

♨ (am0n), Monday, 14 January 2013 15:34 (five years ago) Permalink

yknow, i don't have that one!
i knew i bumped this thread for a reason.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 14 January 2013 15:41 (five years ago) Permalink

pv is gonna help this apartment get clean

#YOLO magic orchestra (clouds), Monday, 14 January 2013 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Yoga's not an official release, Fricke disowned it... still worth a listen.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Not really Popol Vuh though

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:28 (five years ago) Permalink

the cover art for In Den Garten Pharaohs always astounds me - the design looks so modern, like it's from a 2008 reissue

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:47 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm on the train right now on my way to purchase, for better or worse, an Affenstunde reissue. I figure that's all that'll be left for nonmillionaires at some pt anyway. It's under $25.

It's dusk and the light is beautiful outside the train window. The woman next to me is wrapped in a plush blanket with cartoon bunnies and deer on it.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:50 (five years ago) Permalink

you are an odd bird LL

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:05 (five years ago) Permalink

a beautiful bird of paradise

#YOLO magic orchestra (clouds), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:13 (five years ago) Permalink

np at my desk: T Dream, Sorcerer sdtrk. Close enough.

You should get an affenpinscher to go with your affenstunde!

the dyspeptic Hirax (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks to my extensive AKC research as a child, I know what an affenpinscher is, and they are v cute.
They're like mini-yetis.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Also once I dressed up as a bluebird of paradise for Halloween so at the risk of sounding immodest, clouds otm ;)

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:40 (five years ago) Permalink

next assignment: picture of you in bluebird costume

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 06:24 (five years ago) Permalink

have we posted this milan show?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyEHm-rEMJ0
what's the deal? is it actually popol vuh? someone upthread made the claim it was not. what the vuh?

tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:47 (five years ago) Permalink

In 1975 they visited again Italy for a concert at the University ‘La Statale’ of Milan, somewhere in september. The concert was promoted by the 'Gong' magazine (a magazine about progressive-experimental rock), after R.U. Kaiser established an agreement with the PDU label for licensing the Ohr/Pilz/DKK records in Italy.
The concert was opened by a very young Roberto Cacciapaglia, who played a part of 'Sonanze'. For this occasion Popol Vuh consisted of: Florian Fricke (piano and voice), Daniel Fichelscher (guitars) and Renate Knaup (vocals and percussion).
There exists a tape/bootleg from this concert.

― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:53 AM

༼•̃͡ ɷ•̃͡༽ (am0n), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:47 (five years ago) Permalink

ooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo that sounds good

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:50 (five years ago) Permalink

p.v. comes in just before the 14 min mark of that vid. before that is the cacciapaglia piece

༼•̃͡ ɷ•̃͡༽ (am0n), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:50 (five years ago) Permalink

ah gotcha. yeah this is good, though the recording is not perfect.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 23:00 (five years ago) Permalink

the end is ... funky? is that still them?

tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 23:23 (five years ago) Permalink

actually that sounds like more cacciapaglia. the boot mp3s i have only go to about 45 min mark hmm

༼•̃͡ ɷ•̃͡༽ (am0n), Thursday, 17 January 2013 23:34 (five years ago) Permalink

that might make more sense (though i don't really know what cacciapaglia is supposed to sound like).

tylerw, Thursday, 17 January 2013 23:39 (five years ago) Permalink

The sound is abysmal but it's worth a listen.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:48 (five years ago) Permalink

he sounds like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73s_DAvuvcc

but also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHCvfkvxg8c

༼•̃͡ ɷ•̃͡༽ (am0n), Friday, 18 January 2013 05:20 (five years ago) Permalink

^ Both great albums

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Friday, 18 January 2013 11:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, if this sounds anything like Popol Vuh crossed with Ann Steel I need to hear it asap.

LAST DAY to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:23 (five years ago) Permalink

deplorable lack of PV on Spotify

more/different stuff up there now, including the Herzog soundtracks box set

Brad C., Wednesday, 23 January 2013 17:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Only in the US though. Europe only gets the Revisited & Remixed 1970-1999 comp.

questino (seandalai), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:31 (five years ago) Permalink

That's weird and unfortunate. I'm sorry.

Can we talk about how great Agape-Agape is? I listened to it last night as I was trying to fall asleep and it was super dreamy.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:33 (five years ago) Permalink

"They danced, they laughed, as of old" is a well structured jam afaic.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 23:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but it's just the end bit of "Die Umkehr" from "Bruder des Schattens..." isn't it? Good album but the production lets it down.

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 January 2013 13:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Is it? I honestly can't tell sometimes. The production is kinda bad, you're right. I just wondered why no one ever talked about that album.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 January 2013 13:32 (five years ago) Permalink

When's it from? 1983 or something? Who would expect a "Krautrock" band still to be any good in 1983? Also, I'm sure it was only released on an independent - I think it was on Uniton, which is a Norwegian label.

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 January 2013 13:37 (five years ago) Permalink

What in tarnation is this? http://www.discogs.com/Florian-Fricke-Die-Erde-Und-Ich-Sind-Eins/release/1317995

OG requiem head (Call the Cops), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 09:35 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.popolvuh.nl/dieerdeundich

☏ (am0n), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:12 (five years ago) Permalink

It wasn’t put out for the music business, but for therapeutics. The background to it is that I experienced early on that the original sense of music is not for going crazy, but that it has an enormous effect on the psyche and the physical aspect of Humanity. And originally it was only used in these way thousands of years ago. And in the bourgeois development of the Romantics suddenly we are shown that the melancholy of Brahms is important or the morbid side of Chopin. And I’m absolutely not interested in any of that. Egotism through music doesn’t interest me, but rather the unbelievable active changing power of music. To go from speech to responsibility.

Man, why can't we have a Fricke On Music volume?

there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:15 (five years ago) Permalink

FOR REAL

You could label it as ‘Body-space music’ (Körperraummusik) where you sing inside the body and take it in such a way that every cell in the body, from the sole of the foot to the crown of the head, starts to vibrate. In order to be able to realise this I have experimented to find where speech resonates in the body. The consonants vibrate at the body walls, the bones and flesh and the vowells fill the body spaces. And that sounds like a gong-concert: it also has a great therapeutic effect.

this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

No blog visibility on this one? Would love to hear it.

OG requiem head (Call the Cops), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:19 (five years ago) Permalink

When the soles of my feet start to sing, I will know I have arrived at full therapeutic resonance.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

"And that sounds like a gong-concert"

We can safely assume he does not mean Daevid Allen etc here.

there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

i wonder if he heard rhys chatham's "two gongs"

groundhog-enorme-toute-grosse-253x300.jpg (clouds), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

This perked my ears up on the Kraftwerk thread yesterday:

5) Two of Kraftwerk's most famous sound effects came from a speaking-aid for deaf-mute children, and a popular toy. The Vortrax was invented in Detroit in the early 1970s. A hand-held machine that looked a bit like a pocket calculator, it produced the distorted vocal choir sound that can be heard on 1975's 'Uranium', which was later sampled in the opening build-up of New Order's 'Blue Monday'.

This is slightly off; the Vortrax was used for the vocodered spoken word part, but I'm about 99.4% positive that the 'vocal choir' sound mentioned is just an Orchestron keyboard, the same one they use for Radioactivity (and the same one Popol Vuh used for 'Aguirre' etc). It never occurred to me that 'Blue Monday' lifted a 'Uranium' sample directly, but now that it's mentioned that makes sense!

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, February 6, 2013 1:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Went and looked on the app store and hola there is a 99 cent Orchestron simulator app for iPhone, which includes the Aguirre-esque choir patch and a few other patches. Fun! It has programmable chord pads too to help you cope with the teeny little imaginary keys.

there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Omg wut?!?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:10 (five years ago) Permalink

search 'Orchestron'

there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:10 (five years ago) Permalink

hmm that makes me want to get an iphone. what else do they do?

tylerw, Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought Popol Vuh used the Jimmy Jackson's Choir Organ for "Aguirre". Orchestron didn't exist in 1972 after all?

No blog visibility on this one? Would love to hear it.

Believe me I've looked high + low

Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

(Don't get me started on Jimmy Jackson's Choir Organ)

Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Roguelike dungeon crawl games, ILX Zing Touch, fun synth and drum machine simulators, that's all I got so far.

try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost actually no why don't you get started on Jimmy Jackson's Choir Organ? I know nothing!

try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.popolvuh.nl/pvchoir

☏ (am0n), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

...also first Amon Duul II review here

(I love that Planet Mellotron site!)

Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

oh man its the same instrument as on Wolf City!!!

try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, thanks a lot cause now I'm going to be saying

HABOOB

in my head all day...

try a little crowleymass (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes, it's a distinctive sound tho I'm not convinced it's not just a (perhaps malfunctioning) mellotron (xp) Haboob have an album too, which is fitfully entertaining, Choir Organ shamefully underused (I can hear it on one track only)

Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:39 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Does anyone know anything about the supposed 5 PV vinyl reissues? I saw something on their lol facebook page, but I have no idea who operates that or how much they know about what's going on. The Affenstunde reissue has not let me down AT ALL. It sounds great. In fact, now I truly understand why it's called Affenstunde.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink

oh, that's great to hear about affenstunde! was wondering if I should pick that up and I think you just helped me get to the bottom of that little dilemma.

original bgm, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:26 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Will someone please tell me what is up with these Japanese reissues? All the facebook page says is "watch out for them now!" and that is not helping...

This image is all I have been able to find (haven't looked very hard, admittedly)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/164459_10151301793167610_722187347_n.jpg

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:17 (five years ago) Permalink

the LT-LN cover is giving me a heart attack
WANT

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:18 (five years ago) Permalink

i still can't find anything

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 March 2013 16:35 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

'Die Erde Und Ich Sind Eins' is about to hit the blogs! Give it a week or so.

Call the Cops, Sunday, 7 April 2013 14:52 (five years ago) Permalink

What does that mean?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Sunday, 7 April 2013 14:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Privately produced album long sought after by sad people like me

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Who's sad? What's sad?! Will someone let me know when this exciting thing happens?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I think it's an album of vocal pieces, perhaps like e.g. "Song of Earth" on "Spirit of Peace"?

Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Ooh that sounds great.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

hey wait a second, did this happen?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Good question, to the internet to find out

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:51 (five years ago) Permalink

i did a quick search around for it last week, but came up with zilch! maybe call the cops has the details?
http://www.popolvuh.nl/files/cass_0.jpg
looks pretty good.

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 15:53 (five years ago) Permalink

i hope we have someone on the case. i want this!

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Aw man, if you want something doing... Leonardo Music Journal -- Awesome!!

Call the Cops, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

call the cops otm!

tylerw, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Awesome is the operative word

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, too cool!

liam fennell, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

muchisimas gracias!

btw i found a picture of the bluebird costume! (i realized this morning that this thread is where i mentioned it before)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8258/8678479892_812c16096f_m.jpg

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

thank you! i finally had time to figure out how to hear this and it totally sounds like it should have a herzog voiceover talking about cave-dwelling glow worms and their mating habits or something. also reminds me of ernst reijseger a little now that i think about it. anyone know what/where the picture on the cover is?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 14:49 (five years ago) Permalink

No idea. Spooky music!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 26 April 2013 14:52 (five years ago) Permalink

ok good i thought i was being a chicken
it sounds more like lost souls than people at one with the earth

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 14:54 (five years ago) Permalink

I Am At One With The Earth - And It Is Totally Freaky

tylerw, Friday, 26 April 2013 14:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Who are the singers?

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 15:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Well it looks like it's Vocals – Anni Morris Wieland, Bettina Fricke Waldthausend*, Dieter Prym, Florian Fricke, Friedemann Berger, Friedemann Wieland, Gisela Von Doering, Ingeborg Jahnke, Jan Lorck-Shjmerning, Jana Faust, Karl F. Weber, Klaudia Wieland

Trip Maker, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:05 (five years ago) Permalink

wait -- "song of the earth" is "agnus dei"?
i have googled and found nothing about this release that i understand fully

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 26 April 2013 15:18 (five years ago) Permalink

It's the same tune, yes. He was fond of it and who can blame him? Interestingly, or maybe not, some of this reminded me of, respectively, Stockhausen's "Atmen gibt das Leben" and Cornelius Cardew's "The Great Learning", both of which were composed for choirs of "amateurs".

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 26 April 2013 16:54 (five years ago) Permalink

love cardew

am0n, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hqN21XDjaE

am0n, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

and thanks for the upload CtC

am0n, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:32 (five years ago) Permalink

^ yes, thanks -- while listening I felt like I was doing dishes in the catacombs.

Brad C., Friday, 26 April 2013 18:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Pleasure

Call the Cops, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:29 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I wish that I could read/speak/understand German, but I don't. Relying on google translate has, as usual, produced nothing but pure gold while trying to understand what is going on here http://www.popolvuh.nl/archsounds1971
this is just the first two lines

Popol Vuh is a group of people that makes music: no music group.
Popol Vuh is a group of people who live together and spend most of their time trying to make music.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:57 (five years ago) Permalink

We do not see ourselves as musicians, but as people whose decision it was, what they feel and what they can feel, say in music. The belief in mediation and communication is our faith in music. The music that we make, arising from the recollection in which we willfully to learn with a desire to enter.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:07 (five years ago) Permalink

just one more! the end of the first paragraph

We learn to understand our imagination, we take it, we live it. Our music and its conversion to convey this way: The traumatic life, the unconscious rooms. So our music has necessarily to lean more-without reference to the music of the indigenous people in them. We are going to find our own way a meditation form that comes from our culture. We encounter the unconscious with our consciousness, we fall out of time and stretch this moment.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:28 (five years ago) Permalink

i take it back -- not sharing this would be selfish

The group lives in Peter churches in Wasserburg, in an old vicarage. This presbytery has become a creative human settlement.
We're in the middle of the court music. By the time there, a sound space as an egg on the images of Hyronymus Bosch.
The Moog synthesizer allows to create any sound even imaginary. This first is a danger: In the, in his Vermittluing yet unexplored medium - music - is the MOOG machine an incredibly perfect instrument to mental influence, because the processes are right: A pressed sound conveys feelings pressed, a sound open the possibility to relax, to find a creative peace.
We work - in our understanding - not with tones, but with the entire Tongebäude the overtone series. Thus, the concrete sound is never limited in his room, he is related to him how the consciousness to the subconscious, he acts in it, as the center of the circle in the district. We are not trying to produce vibrations that result from a musical product, we have been working with vibrations as the starting material. This music conveys more directly than speak any other music before: The vibrations come straight to the listener.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Two up thumbs!

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:54 (five years ago) Permalink

I am happy to know the german word for the overtone series now!

2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Computer translated Fricke is its own kind of magic. Not sure why this isn't being recycled as spoken word poetry or sthg?!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

lyrics for new kosmische project

2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Tongebäude! Who wants to start this band with me...?

tylerw, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

me me me

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Tongebäude is a group of people that makes music: no music group.

tylerw, Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I'll play overtone series on a one-string fretless!

2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

i can read so i nominate myself for reading this while someone noodles on a machine:

When we think of melody, then we remember how we sang as children: without intention, just for their own happiness. Eventually we left off, like the children to sing. Today we get to that, as monstrous.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:03 (five years ago) Permalink

As long as you read it in a Renate Knaup accent

2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

And finish it off with "My name is free your spirit pig (La Lechera), but most people call me La Lechera".

seanda.ly (seandalai), Friday, 31 May 2013 10:28 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

A short interview with Florian Fricke's widow

Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 August 2013 14:43 (four years ago) Permalink

totally found out a guy down the street from me is super into popol vuh. which might not be that exciting to some of you, but out here it's a rarity.

tylerw, Thursday, 1 August 2013 14:46 (four years ago) Permalink

That's a great interview.

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 August 2013 15:24 (four years ago) Permalink

"This was the first time I heard Florian on the piano. I was fascinated while listening to him play in that old empty mosque, where chickens and cats, our daily audience, ran through the building"

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 August 2013 16:50 (four years ago) Permalink

wow, i'll have to give myself time to absorb this. how lovely!

i skimmed the questions and liked this part because it's a little insignificant tidbit that probably only his wife would know Someone wrote to Florian. "My baby cried all night . I didn´t know what to do. But when I played Hosianna Mantra it stopped at once."

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 August 2013 17:18 (four years ago) Permalink

What I would really like to be republished are the videos Kailash and Sei Still, wisse ich Bin

Ok, right, *makes note*, "Kailash", that's a bit of PV knowledge i'm lacking

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:04 (four years ago) Permalink

Wow

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:15 (four years ago) Permalink

no band footage by the looks of things. most of the music sounded v. familiar too

trippin' on brostep beats (NickB), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:16 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm at work atm so no way can i look at this right now but whoa

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:30 (four years ago) Permalink

facebook page calling itself Popol Vuh announces this with no info about who is producing the "vinyls" or where they will be available

and some news:

POPOL VUH VINYLS OF THE FIRST 5 ORIGINAL ALBUMS

release september 2013

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:08 (four years ago) Permalink

popol vuhnyls!

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:26 (four years ago) Permalink

THIS IS INTERESTING
http://www.normanrecords.com/records/139653-popol-vuh--hosianna-mantra

is this a reputable reissue company?

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:29 (four years ago) Permalink

second question: should i have my local store preorder these for me or should i do it myself? not buying them does not seem to be an option. don't know if i could forgive myself, have been waiting and searching for years, etc.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:32 (four years ago) Permalink

update
the reissue label appears to be wah wah supersonic sounds out of barcelona? http://www.wah-wahsupersonic.com/html/lps.html

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 August 2013 23:40 (four years ago) Permalink

sounds booty as all get out

failed gravy (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 00:37 (four years ago) Permalink

i already called the store :-/
gotta call back tomorrow bc person today could not answer my question

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 00:39 (four years ago) Permalink

ooooh wah wah... picked up some of their igor wakhevitch and heldon reissues and they sound real nice.

original bgm, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 04:14 (four years ago) Permalink

The likes of Phoenix, Bamboo, etc. tend not to have websites & never list contact details, so the presence of both here is promising at least.

Wandering Boy Poet, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 12:34 (four years ago) Permalink

wow, watching Kailash and it is gorgeous and intense

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:11 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah that guitar playing in the video is super sweet.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, it's not in the video, but soundtracking the end of it ...

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:26 (four years ago) Permalink

i woke up thinking about these records and trying to choose the two i wanted most because buying them all is just ridiculous
hosianna mantra and in den garten won the mental race, but now i'm wondering if i just don't know the other two well enough

E & S is really cymbal crazy at the beginning!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 14:33 (four years ago) Permalink

btw dunno if you can see this dumb link but https://www.facebook.com/notes/wah-wah-discos/the-ultimate-popol-vuh-reissues-on-wah-wah-in-autumn/576259592396376
"In Den Gärten Pharaos" was originally issued in 1971, this time by Pilz, yet it wasn't precisely on the folk vein that Herr Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser was trying to keep the label into by those days. It's sound drinks directly from the same waters that brought Affenstunde, although there is a clear move towards some less dark passages, and the use of church organ as the main instrument, plus a first introduction into the ethnic music elements that Popol Vuh would soon mix into their cauldron bring new light to the sound.

Reissued from the master tapes in quality vinyl pressing, full glory laminated gatefold cover and featuring bonus, an insert with liners and photos. Liner notes by Popol Vuh expert Dolf Mulder (check his amazing site on the band at http://www.popolvuh.nl/).

Limited to 500 copies worlwide.

ARTIST : POPOL VUH
TITLE : IN DEN GÄRTEN PHARAOS
LABEL : WAH WAH RECORDS SUPERSONIC SOUNDS
CATALOGUE NUMBER : LPS117
FORMAT : LP + INSERT

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 16:58 (four years ago) Permalink

Wah Wah is totally above board, and have been doing high quality reissues for years now. They did those "kraut folk" Lps like Broselmaschine, Holderlin etc a few years ago.. great records, and I think La Lechera might enjoy them.

popol vuh FOR LIFE

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:01 (four years ago) Permalink

my store (finally called and talked to a human about this) didn't know what i was talking about but said they would call me back and took name/# but now i want to show them the label/catalogue number so they know that 1) i am not just some popol vuh crazy phone person and 2) they will order these records for me and spare me the hassle of intl shipping/receiving.

i'll write down those other names, thanks!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:04 (four years ago) Permalink

if your store can't get them, forced exposure always carries Wah Wah stuff.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:10 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Any US stores selling these? I kind of want to buy all five, but ~$50+ is a bit steep for me.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:21 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't know! the guy i talked to at the store hasn't called me and i have been resisting the urge to go back in there and bug him about it for the fourth time :-/

no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:29 (four years ago) Permalink

That's cheap, for a textbook.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:34 (four years ago) Permalink

I guess $50 is cheap when considering they're limited reissues. I just hate getting burned on conversion. It happens so often...

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:56 (four years ago) Permalink

me too but i have considered it and i feel that i would play/cherish them enough to make it worth the extra oomph required to get one.
i've made three phone calls and a brick and mortar visit with the exclusive intent of getting my store to order one for me, but every time i talk to someone, they just take my deets and then no one ever calls me! it's like i am doing all the work and at this point. i have invested actual time in alerting them of the existence of these reissues and expressing my intent to buy them, what more do they want from me?!

at this point, i clearly must have them.

no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:10 (four years ago) Permalink

Release date is September 16 right?

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:13 (four years ago) Permalink

link?

no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:17 (four years ago) Permalink

i mean should i just preorder from one of the UK stores and be done with it? i thought i was saving myself some effort going through my local store but that seems to not be the case.

no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:18 (four years ago) Permalink

Nice pic, never seen that before

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:22 (four years ago) Permalink

http://factmag-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/popolvuh-9.3.20131.jpg

^ slightly less cropped version

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:25 (four years ago) Permalink

*sigh*

I'll probably just go with two or three..

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:40 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah i am gonna have to break it gently to my store guy if he ever calls me
i have birthday money to spend and i am not going to spend it on something that i don't really want because i waited for that dude to call me
if the store has one extra, someone will buy them, don't worry

no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:42 (four years ago) Permalink

Don't know if this is common knowledge, but Aphex Twin's Rephlex label was trying to license Affenstunde just before the new wave of CD reissues. Trivia, I know.

Call the Cops, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 19:49 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure this was ever posted? interview with valerio cosi, who is releasing Valerio Cosi plays Popol Vuh’ this month along with the reissues. he seems pretty good, i'll give it a chance.

http://www.popolvuh.nl/interVC

no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:46 (four years ago) Permalink

Like to hear that

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:35 (four years ago) Permalink

i wondered what is daniel fichelscher doing these days?
and i found this
he sounds great!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGWFX84NkQ

special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:21 (four years ago) Permalink

seriously, dude tells some great stories
i'm not sure at what point in the interview he removes his shirt. but i've only watched a tiny portion of it so far

special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:00 (four years ago) Permalink

his drum noises around 11:50 is priceless!

special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:05 (four years ago) Permalink

At 19:50 he goes out for cigarettes, which presumably cost him his shirt.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:11 (four years ago) Permalink

isn't he delightful?!

special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:16 (four years ago) Permalink

my s/v agr error above is not so delightful but i can only blame myself for that

special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:16 (four years ago) Permalink

Amazing! Thanks, he does sound great! I love to hear him pronounce the album titles correctly, ha.

liam fennell, Monday, 23 September 2013 19:20 (four years ago) Permalink

i feel that i can say several of them with confidence now! that's progress.

also, in case anyone cares, the guy at norman records has informed me that a "stickering delay" means that the records will arrive (and presumably be shipped) next week.

special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:28 (four years ago) Permalink

OMG OMG that was so great!!! I was about to leave work but I had to stay at my desk and watch the whole thing. It made me want to cry. That was actually some of the most concrete info about PV procedures we have had... Not much of it but still! How interesting that on tgeir first few collabs they tracked piano and drums together first and then added the rest. Ha and then when he talks abt the LPs that were the most his stuff he doesn't even mention Herz and Letzte which are by far the most guitargasmic.

also WKIW D Fichelser!

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 23 September 2013 22:54 (four years ago) Permalink

Also, and this is distressing, I realized I don't have Seligpreisung!

i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 23 September 2013 23:02 (four years ago) Permalink

Seriously, his stories about their process were very enlightening!

special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 23:47 (four years ago) Permalink

Loved the bits about consonanten too.

special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 23:48 (four years ago) Permalink

hmmmm. continued "stickering issues" have delayed the delivery of my order from norman records. has anyone ordered from them before? they've answered all my emails (thanks, phil!) but i guess i'm feeling that charming combination of bummed and impatient.

Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:27 (four years ago) Permalink

i buy from them quite a bit and they've never let me down yet. pretty trustworthy imo, i don't think they'd be telling you any fibs

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:38 (four years ago) Permalink

ok. that's what i needed to hear. their sales process was very reassuring in general, and they have answered all of my questions, so it's gonna be ok.

Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:40 (four years ago) Permalink

patience, patience!

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:41 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

i hope your order arrived

anonymous jazz majors (Matt P), Friday, 11 October 2013 22:39 (four years ago) Permalink

It has been shipped, but hasn't arrived yet. Can't wait!!

Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 11 October 2013 22:46 (four years ago) Permalink

I've been thinking of D fichelscher saying "overdubs!" ever since I watched that interview/whatever that was.

Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 11 October 2013 22:48 (four years ago) Permalink

just ordered these as well! excited!

original bgm, Friday, 11 October 2013 23:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Norman Records are great and very trustworthy.

۩, Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:32 (four years ago) Permalink

my records are here! i'm going to make dinner and listen to one, not sure which one!!

Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 23:08 (four years ago) Permalink

:D

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 01:53 (four years ago) Permalink

I've been listening to the Popol Vuh Werner Herzog box set on and off over a few months. That is just some intense music.

earlnash, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 03:04 (four years ago) Permalink

this man is not afraid of cymbals
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/12944539/Amon+Dl+II+Daniel+Fichelscher+2006.jpg

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:17 (four years ago) Permalink

Floor Tom is die Konsonanten, cymbal is der Vowel!

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:01 (four years ago) Permalink

""ohn Weinzierl, good looking guy, strong, vital"

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Oops, John Weinzierl...

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:07 (four years ago) Permalink

Can't front, I will always get a little creeped out when Germans talk abt vitality/mountaineering/fresh clean air. Make exception for Danny tho.

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:40 (four years ago) Permalink

vitality/mountaineering/fresh clean air
three great things, what are you talking about!?

i am on a total d fichelscher kick atm

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:09 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh it's just that unfortunate link the early 20c proto nazis forged between health regimens and anti semitism.

"Hey I'm in an outdoor singing society too!"

*winks ominously*

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:20 (four years ago) Permalink

But that's why German hippies had to go SO FAR OUT. A lot of ghosts to chase off!

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:21 (four years ago) Permalink

oh well yeah on second thought i guess that's pretty gross
but those things are great on their own, minus the association

i keep thinking about how d fichelscher showed up at a music festival with his bongos and wound up being an essential part of ADII and PV. that's pretty amazing.

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Shit I gotta get some bongos ASAP.

grandavis, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I guess I would also have to be willing to leave the house with them though ....

grandavis, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:31 (four years ago) Permalink

ADII are so fkin wonderful

Is it yeti and carnival he is on or carnival and wolf city?

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:33 (four years ago) Permalink

the latter

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:36 (four years ago) Permalink

maybe next year i will be d fichelscher for halloween and i will be able to bring my bongos and change my life
there's a goal

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:37 (four years ago) Permalink

Sounds like a good goal all around.

grandavis, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:45 (four years ago) Permalink

I need to do that this year. Right now. Halloween might even be too late.

play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:46 (four years ago) Permalink

cmon never too late

Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:08 (four years ago) Permalink

La Lechera do you have a report or any thoughts on your new vinyl? I saw them yesterday for sale at Wall Of Sound in Seattle and was super tempted, but $30 is just a bit steep.

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:45 (four years ago) Permalink

I do! I am not interested in dominating the thread with my personal opinions about objects, but these are some very special objects. I have been enjoying them IMMENSELY! I don't really care about the poster or the essays (there is the same set of info inside each record + a little poster) and I think it's something I've read before anyway, but I can imagine people who weren't that familiar with the Vuh getting more out of that stuff.

I've only had PV on mp3 or CD and these records definitely sound great. I'm also enjoying the ritual of flipping them over and realizing the genius of the sequencing (which really is not the same on CD/mp3). Surprise hit (cymbal crash) has been Einsjager & Siebenjager, but Pharaos sounds way way way more amazing than I remember it (I don't listen to that one as much). They're all obvs great albums.

Overall, since I bought them with birthday money and they are a special band for me, I would say the purchase was worth it. If there is an album you feel extra strongly for, I would definitely recommend buying. You will feel a brief surge of remorse (I did) that will melt as soon as you drop the needle.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:55 (four years ago) Permalink

actually no, i had 2 PV records prior to the reissues

also i haven't listened to the bonus djong yun 7" yet

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:56 (four years ago) Permalink

thank you!

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:56 (four years ago) Permalink

no mention of it here yet, but mount eerie covered "engel der luft" from fitzcarraldo on his/their last album and it's incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufs3Wpg2-Y0

clouds, Friday, 1 November 2013 14:47 (four years ago) Permalink

whoa that's intense!
but also uh oh -- i better hurry up!!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:06 (four years ago) Permalink

LL I bought Affenstunde and In Den Garten Pharoahs based on yr recommendations and I love them! So thank you. Those Spanish LP reissues are really hard to find in the US.

sleeve, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:23 (four years ago) Permalink

always glad to be of service!

i'm right about the essay inside, right? i'm pretty sure that i've read that before but i can't find it -- i think there was a scan of a magazine or something? it seemed like a lot of familiar info to me and my memory is not spectacular, so maybe it's just the same info recycled in a different format?

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:35 (four years ago) Permalink

Seriously, though, where can one buy these in the States? Been looking everywhere. No distros, no shops, and not even any US-based online sellers that I've been able to find.

winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 15:05 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't know that you can unless your local store ordered them from wah wah. if you're serious about buying them, i would recommend buying them from norman records in the UK. they were great and a human answered my emails!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 15:53 (four years ago) Permalink

Noted. It's just, you know...shipping. Brutal.

winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 16:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh, I know! But if you want to receive the records, you have to pay to have someone carry them across the ocean.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:57 (four years ago) Permalink

I just feel like some joint getting wholesale prices (as such) would be selling these for like 35 USD as opposed to 45 USD. I shouldn't really be allowing myself to afford either of those prices, so $10 goes a pretty long way. Of course, that would-be store doesn't seem to exist, so here we are. Thanks for the advice, re: Norman Gonna feel so guilty, but it's gonna feel so good finally to hear the b-side of that Yun single after all these fucking years. I've never once found a copy!

winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 22:44 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah it's gonna sting, but unless you enjoy making phone calls that lead nowhere and general disappointment, ordering from a source that you 100% know will deliver is better. Esp if you have been waiting that long! Geez.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:38 (four years ago) Permalink

as far as Hosianna Mantra goes, there isn't even a copy on Discogs. just get it from Norman, it'll be gone son.

sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:41 (four years ago) Permalink

SOON

sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:41 (four years ago) Permalink

ha, you got all sassy for a second there

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Ha. There were several copies on Discogs, last week. The cheapest one, of course, didn't include the 7".

winnebago taco, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:58 (four years ago) Permalink

np: my first ever hearing of Seligpreisung (the Fichelscher interview reminded me I didn't have it)

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:42 (four years ago) Permalink

I really want that one.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:47 (four years ago) Permalink

It's just the digital DL from emusic, not the vinyl, to be clear. Did not expect the singing!

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:03 (four years ago) Permalink

it's the only one where florian sings! i think it's a nice change of pace. total cymbal mania too iirc.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:29 (four years ago) Permalink

The spv bonus track is, of course, another arrangement of florians Agnus Dei melody aka kaspar hauser ditty. I feel every reissue has one!

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:51 (four years ago) Permalink

cantare cantare cantare plod plod plod plod.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:04 (four years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Florian's Agnus Dei tune, I want to mention "Gutes Land" off 1jaeger & 7jaeger-- after they play the Agnus Dei for a few bars, there's the stirring piano chord + cymbal crashes and then everyone makes as if to take flight but the strangest thing happens-- three different Fichelschers (hard right at low volume, center at normal volume, hard left at normal volume) stammer awkwardly for several bars, completely failing to come up with anything eloquent to say, and THEN things take off. It's always struck me as the strangest passage; it doesn't seem deliberate, more like a bad improv moment, and yet Danny overdubbed himself twice in the same awkward manner so...?

Also, I think we can all agree 1jaeger is the most hi-fi of the classic PV records, no?

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:57 (four years ago) Permalink

man I need to get decent CD reissues of the rest of the first 10 records or so (I have the first two on vinyl now), any ideas as to which ones I should seek out? I note upthread that dodgy vinyl-ripped Italian CDs were mentioned, don't want those.

sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:02 (four years ago) Permalink

I prefer the Spalax CDs to the SPV reissues in some cases, very strongly so with Letzte Tage, somewhat so with Herz aus Glas. I haven't heard the SPV Einsjaeger to compare but the Spalax sounds fantastic. SPV Bruder des Schattens sounds great, so does SPV Hohelied. SPV Nosferatu sounds a little distorted to me but I only have a few tracks of the spalax to compare. SPV Sei Still... sounds okay to me, haven't heard the Spalax but I don't think that is a very well recorded album to begin with, so. I remember the celestial harmonies CD of the Pharaohs sounding good.

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:10 (four years ago) Permalink

einsjäger is my fave pv

i heard das hoheleid salamos for the first time yesterday — so gorgeous

clouds, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:15 (four years ago) Permalink

thanx Jon! xp

sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:17 (four years ago) Permalink

The SPV Pharaohs is a little distorted, too. The Einsjaeger sounds good, as I recall, but I haven't really put it on in a while. As for Letzte Tage, Letzte Naechte, I've never heard a release that didn't kinda sound like shit; still the "Haram Dei Ra" SPV bonus track with Florian singing was worth the price of admission, for me.

winnebago taco, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:23 (four years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Florian's Agnus Dei tune, I want to mention "Gutes Land" off 1jaeger & 7jaeger-- after they play the Agnus Dei for a few bars, there's the stirring piano chord + cymbal crashes and then everyone makes as if to take flight but the strangest thing happens-- three different Fichelschers (hard right at low volume, center at normal volume, hard left at normal volume) stammer awkwardly for several bars, completely failing to come up with anything eloquent to say, and THEN things take off.

i relistened to that part with this comment in mind and i think he's trying to create a windup type feeling? like
this isn't it
this isn't it

BOOM CRASH
this is it

but i dunno. i love that part!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:44 (four years ago) Permalink

also the LT-LN Spalax cd that i have sounds ok to me but it's also the only one i've heard
if that ever gets reissued i'm going to go crazy and buy three

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:46 (four years ago) Permalink

It is truly strange and challenging to me to contextualize.

IDK like a lot of Vuh this record is about searching and questing and this passage perhaps evokes the stumbling that takes place along the way...

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:51 (four years ago) Permalink

xpost

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:51 (four years ago) Permalink

The Aguire soundtrack is really amazing. I just love how it sounds. I got a feeling its going to become one of my favorite ambient records, it just has a great tone.

earlnash, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 02:56 (four years ago) Permalink

IDK like a lot of Vuh this record is about searching and questing and this passage perhaps evokes the stumbling that takes place along the way...

More likely the result of trying to record a rock song with two people, one on piano and one on drums, not your usual method by any means. There are a few tracks where the piano and drums go slightly out of time or, for instance, the end of "Letzte Tage", where there's a drum fill that's out of synch...

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:25 (four years ago) Permalink

^^^tom d you have been neglecting your breathing exercises haven't you >:[

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:06 (four years ago) Permalink

So after her career with Popol Vuh, Djong Yun seems to have ended up in North Korea, or at least she was there eight years ago. (Brief thread on her father Isang Yun here.) Has she ever been interviewed about her life? I'm really curious – starting with how someone who could sing like that could just stop.

with hidden noise, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:16 (four years ago) Permalink

Been a huge PV fan for years but only just discovered the Gila connection this week. Mind-boggling.

Call the Cops, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Wow. I knew none of those things, re: Yun. Thanks for posting that interview.

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:30 (four years ago) Permalink

her father is isang yun? whoa!

clouds, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:31 (four years ago) Permalink

wow, that's intriguing
i wonder what she does all day?! she lives in pyongyang?!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:34 (four years ago) Permalink

Reissues are in at Fuestron, btw. Or they were, a few days ago.

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:51 (four years ago) Permalink

^^^ was just about to post this when i saw the update.
fusetron v reliable ime.

ian, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:57 (four years ago) Permalink

i missed out on the reissues at Wall of Sound, got there a few days too late :(

JoeStork, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:23 (four years ago) Permalink

sorry, that was me!

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:29 (four years ago) Permalink

all this djong yun stuff is news to me - wow!

original bgm, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:01 (four years ago) Permalink

god help me I just bought three more of those reissues from Fusetron

thanks, I think.

sleeve, Thursday, 21 November 2013 01:04 (four years ago) Permalink

prediction: you won't regret it

sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 November 2013 02:16 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, popol vuh are pretty much The Best Band Ever, so there is no worry. you will be having a great time.

ian, Thursday, 21 November 2013 03:00 (four years ago) Permalink

I know, huh? Somehow I missed this band amidst all my years of exploring exactly this kinda sound, I always just thought of them as a Herzog soundtrack band. Never realized all the connections with ADII etc. By the way thanks to Tom D (I think, yeah?) for his excellent overview at the beginning of the thread.

sleeve, Thursday, 21 November 2013 04:53 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, popol vuh are pretty much The Best Band Ever, so there is no worry. you will be having a great time.

― ian, Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:00 PM

having a great time with side 1 of Hosianna Mantra right now, god damn

sleeve, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:37 (four years ago) Permalink

how to live

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:38 (four years ago) Permalink

i mail-ordered the hosianna mantra reissue but it hasn't arrived here yet. gorgeous album though.

lime pickle (get bent), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 01:43 (four years ago) Permalink

I keep wanting to buy the Herzog box but find myself unable to pull the trigger. I love Aguirre - all time top ten - but I already own it on CD. The only other Popol Vuh I listen to a lot is Hosianna Mantra, if that gives you an idea of what version of Florian's wild circus I most enjoy. I don't know the other four soundtracks included in the box and I understand that one of them - Nosferatu, maybe? - features very little Popol Vuh. I also hear the book is not really any great shakes. Anyway, should I buy this?

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 5 December 2013 22:27 (four years ago) Permalink

herz au glas/heart of glass is top 3 PV albums for me -- at least do yourself the favor of hearing/getting that!!
nosferatu is awesome
the only one in there that i'm not in love with is cobra verde, but it's cool in its own right even if it doesn't have the PV feel

sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 December 2013 22:33 (four years ago) Permalink

surface noise on Seligpreisung side 2 :( just the first song or two, but still. gonna clean the LP and try it again.

sleeve, Thursday, 5 December 2013 22:58 (four years ago) Permalink

IDK if Bruder des Schattens is included in the Herzog box -- it is the discarded score for Nosferatu and v different to the Nosferatu PV LP -- but IMO Bruder des Schattens and Herz aus Glas are the best PV Herzogs by far. And v v different to each other!

yes, i have seen the documentary (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 December 2013 23:11 (four years ago) Permalink

good cause I just bought them :) I think I got one of your SPV/Spalax recommendations mixed up, but what the hell.

sleeve, Thursday, 5 December 2013 23:15 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah Herz Aus Glas has some of the best music ever

tylerw, Thursday, 5 December 2013 23:17 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

lololol the guy from the store just called me
i thanked him for calling and told him that i just bought them from norman records
he said that was the right thing to have done and i was like yeah i know
ha

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 01:20 (four years ago) Permalink

my hosianna mantra FINALLY shipped this weekend. should arrive tomorrow.

sext of light (get bent), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:13 (four years ago) Permalink

imo popol vuh is sort of terrible

the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:19 (four years ago) Permalink

^^^ noize card REVOKED

ian, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:46 (four years ago) Permalink

Revoked and -5 for using a hedge.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:58 (four years ago) Permalink

Two hedges!

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 02:58 (four years ago) Permalink

nah from like 1974 on it's just the grateful dead or santana circa "lotus" but only the solos + pompous interludes not the groovy parts, minus drugs

the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:00 (four years ago) Permalink

i could not disagree more but i respect your right to miss out on some top notch noodling

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:06 (four years ago) Permalink

allow in den gärten pharaos, maybe hosianna mantra, can't stand einsburger und siebensburger or seligspreisung or much of the stuff after that

except, i suppose, some of the herzog soundtrack stuff is okay too

the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:09 (four years ago) Permalink

nosferatu is really boring, post-that is especially dire, check out "sei still wisse ich bin" if you don't believe

the late great, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:11 (four years ago) Permalink

no way, i have that album in my stupid cd wallet that i keep in the car and i never take it out! it's so soothing and singing along is fun too. i like the vocal stuff and i'm pretty happy with their catalogue through agape agape. after that it gets spotty, but there's not much after that.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:22 (four years ago) Permalink

nah from like 1974 on it's just the grateful dead or santana circa "lotus" but only the solos + pompous interludes not the groovy parts, minus drugs
sounds so good bring it on

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:33 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah i was gonna say

does Norman still have copies of these Wah Wah reissues? it is Wah Wah, right?

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:42 (four years ago) Permalink

'bring it on' otm

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 03:45 (four years ago) Permalink

nosferatu is really boring, post-that is especially dire, check out "sei still wisse ich bin" if you don't believe

LOL

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 08:54 (four years ago) Permalink

... if there's an opposite of a doppelganger I've just discovered mine

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 08:55 (four years ago) Permalink

my copy of Seligspreisung responded well to cleaning, noise is gone.

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 15:22 (four years ago) Permalink

Even the lowest priced copies of the reissues on Discogs will total almost $50 to the US w/ shipping. Bummer.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 16:04 (four years ago) Permalink

you could order the ones that just arrived at my store. http://www.reckless.com/index.php?keywords=popol+vuh&format=&cond=&store=&is_search=true&srch=Search

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 16:22 (four years ago) Permalink

imo popol vuh is sort of terrible
― the late great, Monday, December 30, 2013 9:19 PM

ya but u like high contrast :[

am0n, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:03 (four years ago) Permalink

mambo - I'm on it. Stand by

btw how the hell haven't we had a POLLpol Vuh thread? If no one starts one, I will.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 21:58 (four years ago) Permalink

Seriously mambo, if you have limited quantities please hold Seligpreusung, Hosianna and Einsjager for me if you can. I'll order this week...

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 22:00 (four years ago) Permalink

lol @ "mambo" -- it's not my store like i work there, just my go-to local store -- you can order the records via their website i think or you could call the location if you are super concerned. not sure if they're open tomorrow or not. best of luck!

i have never considered polling PV because i don't want to be forced to choose.

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:32 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm always torn about whether to explain the "show username" preference to people who obviously have it turned off and/or are unaware

but hey JD I like yr taste in music so what the hell

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:42 (four years ago) Permalink

ha! Thanks. I can see the username, I just like writing 'mambo' ;)

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 23:57 (four years ago) Permalink

Weird use of PV: Ah! in "Sightseers"

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 00:15 (four years ago) Permalink

i have never considered polling PV because i don't want to be forced to choose.

Yeah, I'd probably vote either Aguirre or Hosianna Mantra, but there are so many great ones.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 00:37 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Those are the same remasters as the SPV by the way. I have a few.

Call the Cops, Friday, 24 January 2014 09:34 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Computer translated Fricke is its own kind of magic. Not sure why this isn't being recycled as spoken word poetry or sthg?!

― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:11 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lyrics for new kosmische project

― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:14 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tongebäude! Who wants to start this band with me...?

― tylerw, Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:17 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me me me

― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:17 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark

whenever you're ready, i'll have a lot of free time coming up this summer!

also -- is this real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdwUL10mMu4

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Friday, 14 February 2014 15:48 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

What's worth tracking down from the compilations? How much is there that didn't end up on the albums (or bonus tracks on the SPV releases)? This makes it sound like what's on Gesang der Gesänge isn't the same as the originals – is that true? Are there other things like that? Is Sing, for Song Drives Away the Wolves (also remixed, but not by Fricke) terrible?

with hidden noise, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 02:10 (four years ago) Permalink

I can't help you there, but i was looking at popol vuh compilations yesterday and this sleeve is pretty badass: http://www.thewaxfactor.com/images/popv.jpeg

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 03:22 (four years ago) Permalink

I used to know the answer to that question re Sing, For Song... but it's gone now. Milan is a weird record label.

grape is the flavor of my true love's hair (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 04:03 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Ben Wheatley's black-hearted screwball comedy pastorale The Sightseers (2012), which I watched this weekend on NF streaming, makes wonderful use of "Ah!" from Hosianna Mantra.

(Alongside some Harmonia, Roedelius, and Neu).

Good film on its own terms and well worth watching, I should also say. Can't wait to see his A Field In England.

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:32 (four years ago) Permalink

I picked up the new SPV reissues of Aguirre and Einsjager today (for a reasonable $10 each at Newbury Comics); so, looks like I can ditch my Spalax copies.
Don't hear much difference in sound if they were remastered (doubt it), but the packaging at least is way superior to Spalax (plus, it's nice to have Digipaks rather than standard jewel case).
Can't wait for them to do Letzte Tage - Letzte Naechte and the others...

― Joe (Joe), Friday, June 18, 2004 6:26 PM (9 years ago)

... and, of course, the Spalax editions are now oop and rare w/different bonus tracks...

KrafTwerk (sleeve), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:36 (four years ago) Permalink

As I've said before, hold on to Spalax versions if you've got em. Some of the SPV are inferior in sound quality.

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:39 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

have there been any interviews/anything written at all about fichelscher recently, like after that thing that's up on youtube?
if so, will someone point me to them? make photocopies and messenger-pigeon them to me? he seemed pretty lively in that interview and i know he must be up to something and i would like to know what it is.

La Lechera, Sunday, 6 July 2014 20:44 (four years ago) Permalink

nothing? does anyone know what he's doing these days?

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 21:59 (four years ago) Permalink

why doesn't anyone want to write about him?
also i would like to strongly recommend the soundtrack for A Field in England for PV fans. It's both light and heavy, super good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW39fmmQEmc

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:01 (four years ago) Permalink

If no one is writing about Danny somebody should at least interview Ben Wheatley about kosmische musik.

Neil Sekada (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:12 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm within inches of asking the dude who posted the youtube interview whether or not there's more or how it happened or w/e
maybe i'll watch it again to make sure those are not stupid questions

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:33 (four years ago) Permalink

I assume you have df google alerted to within an inch of his life and none of them traps have sprung

Neil Sekada (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:34 (four years ago) Permalink

my google alerts have not yielded the fruit i am looking for
they hardly ever do tbh!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 22:43 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

david stubbs on pv/herzog for those what missed it:
http://thequietus.com/articles/16110-herzog-popol-vuh-overview

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 29 August 2014 16:45 (three years ago) Permalink

man everyone focuses on fricke and herzog
thx for posting!

i found at least one popul in there though :-/
Fricke and Vuh did further great work on Heart Of Glass (1976), in which guitarist Danny’s Fichelscher’s playing comes to the fore - by this point, Popul Vuh were more conventionally “rock”, though as Klaus Schulze observed, Fricke’s compositions still followed “electronic patterns” in their structures.

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 29 August 2014 17:12 (three years ago) Permalink

i listened to gila's "bury my heart at wounded knee" mostly for the fichelscher connection -- pretty good!

clouds, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:34 (three years ago) Permalink

ooh love that one!!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 29 August 2014 17:45 (three years ago) Permalink

while we were at my mom's house we watched a nature docu on cable in the Globe Trekkers series-- the episode was called Planet of the Apes and during the section on Orangutans there was this processional acoustic guitar stuff that gave me a really nice elevated Vuh-ish feeling. The episode had like 10 composers listed though, no chance I'll ever track that cue down.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Friday, 29 August 2014 21:22 (three years ago) Permalink

1973 soundboard!

http://shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com/

sleeve, Sunday, 7 September 2014 17:21 (three years ago) Permalink

niiiiice! thanks!

tylerw, Sunday, 7 September 2014 18:53 (three years ago) Permalink

actually it might be a good audience recording, there is a lot of accompanying info

sleeve, Sunday, 7 September 2014 19:47 (three years ago) Permalink

this is great! yeah hazy sound is more likely an audience recording (maybe there wasn't even really a "soundboard" per se) but the haziness is nice.

tylerw, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:03 (three years ago) Permalink

i saw this yesterday and today i remembered to click on it and it's asking me to "click here for downloader" and i feel like i am 500 years old pls send help bc i want to hear this!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:09 (three years ago) Permalink

i thought i posted that boot for y'all upthread. maybe it was another one

am0n, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:26 (three years ago) Permalink

i have a couple live boots, one is "1973 baumberg kirche germany" and the other is from 1976 with some live roberto cacciapaglia(!)
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:46 AM (4 years ago)

am0n, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:27 (three years ago) Permalink

whoops! yeah this is the church one

it's in FLAC if that makes a difference to anyone

sleeve, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:30 (three years ago) Permalink

i can put the 76 one up again if anyone needs it

am0n, Monday, 8 September 2014 16:33 (three years ago) Permalink

i saw this yesterday and today i remembered to click on it and it's asking me to "click here for downloader" and i feel like i am 500 years old pls send help bc i want to hear this!

when i first clicked on it there was a "use sendspace downloader" box that i had to uncheck. i can't see the checkbox anymore though.

example (crüt), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:34 (three years ago) Permalink

xp i'd like to hear that!

example (crüt), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:34 (three years ago) Permalink

Yes pls!!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:41 (three years ago) Permalink

LL just be sure to uncheck the 'use sendspace downloader' box. And then on the next screen click the 'download from sendspace' thing and not the fake generic download thing.

I'm intrigued by the annotated discography included in this package! It's over 100 pgs long!

Rand McNulty (Jon Lewis), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:46 (three years ago) Permalink

now it says service temp unavailable?

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 16:49 (three years ago) Permalink

I'll see what's up later this afternoon LL, I can always mail you a CD if it comes to that

Sendspace maxes out at 25 downloads iirc, I had to use it b/c of file size

sleeve, Monday, 8 September 2014 17:20 (three years ago) Permalink

haha
ok :)
thank you

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 17:26 (three years ago) Permalink

non-flac version of 1973 baumberg kirche germany
http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/33870044/file.html

1976 milan - popol vuh / roberto cacciapaglia
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/90269463/file.html

am0n, Monday, 8 September 2014 18:50 (three years ago) Permalink

thx sleeve and am0n

Brad C., Monday, 8 September 2014 18:55 (three years ago) Permalink

thank you!! i can't wait to hear them. also? the discography pdf?! wow. awesome.

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 8 September 2014 19:31 (three years ago) Permalink

hmm seems like it's working now?

feel free to webmail me via ILX if there are still issues

sleeve, Monday, 8 September 2014 20:15 (three years ago) Permalink

thnkx amon, fricke/cacciapaglia a dream pairing

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:22 (three years ago) Permalink

oh yeah i didn't have that pdf so grab sleeves version if you can

am0n, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:42 (three years ago) Permalink

I downloaded it too in case anyone needs it and it unable to get it via the Sendspace thingy

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:44 (three years ago) Permalink

but I have not listened to it yet, so shame on me

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:45 (three years ago) Permalink

i'm finally listening to the live in 1973 recording and it's totally giving me the weirds, like i have never heard these songs sounding like they were produced by actual human beings before and now here they are
agnus dei and all!
wow
thanks so much for sharing!!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:14 (three years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard this recording, downloading now, but I know what you mean about "actual humans" making this stuff... I can almost never make out the piano in all those PV albums even though it is always there. I can barely tell what's going on at all, except that it's impossibly beautiful, ha. Mr. Fricke's oeuvre is surely some of the most psychedelic music ever in the mind-manifesting sense, colorful, hazey, contradictory and simultaneously pretty/scary sounding. Countless layers of impenetrable sound. And so alive -- it breathes. It sounds just plain otherworldy. The sonic equivalent of the unreal and idealized dream-scape backgrounds one finds in Leonardo da Vinci paintings. Every once in a while I try to do a close study of this stuff and I never get anywhere with it, its essence just eludes me completely!!! Which is wonderful.

I feel like Herzog almost completely misuses the stuff, too. The music is usually just plain too strong to serve images/stories properly. It overpowers them.

liam fennell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:09 (three years ago) Permalink

I can almost never make out the piano in all those PV albums even though it is always there

It isn't always there!

FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:31 (three years ago) Permalink

Well, maybe that explains why I can't find it!

liam fennell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:22 (three years ago) Permalink

It is mostly there, no? Except for the modular synth, organ and the tape-loop mellotronish thing you hear in the early work.

liam fennell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:25 (three years ago) Permalink

On the contrary, it progressively disappears as the albums get more guitar based (I don't think there's any on "Coeur de Verre"), then comes back when they get more acoustic. Some songs the piano is there at the beginning and then fades out - almost as if to show how it was composed.

FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:53 (three years ago) Permalink

Okay, thanks. That makes sense. I always got the impression it was at the bottom of the mix somewhere as the live take and then smothered with overdubs.

liam fennell, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:16 (three years ago) Permalink

That's probably true too

FYI Macedonia (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:15 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

was looking up some information about (what i thought was) the melltron in "aguirre", found this interesting article

the all man brothers (clouds), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:39 (three years ago) Permalink

interesting!

1) 'For every key on the keyboard he had made a tape of that note which had been sung by a real choir. It wasn't sampled or anything.' Chris adds: 'He devised a system where he took about 150 matches and stuck them in the parts of the keyboard that didn't work. He painted these with different colours so he knew which keys he could play. It was the first such instrument in the world and Florian Fricke of Popol Vuh used it for his soundtrack music to [Werner] Herzog's Aguirre: Wrath Of God. It's in a museum now."
which museum?! where?

2) <3 the phrase "this Haboob project"

3) i just got my hands on a reissue (?) of that Herzog interview book and am seriously looking forward to any more PV info I can get out of it. My guess is that there's not much but throw me in the briar patch and make me read a book about Herzog, boohoo.

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:51 (three years ago) Permalink

i just like saying it -- HABOOB

wouldn't mind hearing their album

the all man brothers (clouds), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:53 (three years ago) Permalink

you're telling me!

For the New Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock (www.gepr.net/) David Wayne gives the following hint:

"Interesting. The major point of interest for most progressive fans is Haboob's very significant connections with Amon Düül 2. The LP features psychedelic cover art by Amon Düül 2 keyboardist Falk U. Rogner, and it was produced by Amon Düül 2 saxophonist / producer Olaf Kübler. Jimmy Johnson has numerous studio credits, but is perhaps best known in prog-rock circles for his collaboration with Amon Düül 2 on Wolf City and Dance of the Lemmings (along with Phallus Dei, the band's best work, in my opinion). As you'd expect, Johnson's effects-laden organ and Mellotron (here called "choir-organ") are quite prominent. Unfortunately, Johnson's compositions aren't nearly as distinguished - the LP is comprised of a free improvisation (during which Green cuts loose to display some considerable jazz chops), a very Hendrix-inspired blues, and some pretty straightforward psychedelic soul - funk - rock pieces. The end result is sort of like a collaboration between Amon Düül 2 and early Funkadelic, or the Chambers Brothers (or perhaps even Sly Stone), minus the extended guitar explorations. The vocals, guitars and keyboards are heavily processed throughout - in fact the singing is pretty much buried beneath multiple layers of effects and electronic weirdness. The lyrics are only occasionally understandable. Despite the relative simplicity of the music, it has a lot of appeal - and I would urge those of you who are interested in a fusion of Euro-psychedelia with US soul and funk to seek this one out."

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:45 (three years ago) Permalink

was wrong upthread to assume it was an orchestron! the world, it's so big.

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:46 (three years ago) Permalink

I've heard the Haboob album and sought out every recording Jimmy Jackson is credited with appearing on... and there's next to no Choir Organ on any of them... Embryo, Kllaus Doldinger and, most disappointingly of all considering it's his album, Haboob. So best sticking to Amon Duul II, esp. Wolf City.

... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:22 (three years ago) Permalink

is that instrument making the sounds that I always thought were "just" massed backing vocals in "Surrounded By The Stars"?

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:43 (three years ago) Permalink

Yes, that's it. Over the years I'd concluded the 'Choir Organ' was just a vaguely poetic name for a mellotron BUT I did read somewhere that, on ADII's "Tanz der Lemminge", there's a passage where a chord is held for 30 seconds (or thereabouts) and that it's not possible to hold a note for that long on a mellotron (apparently... I'm no expert). So, who knows? I do know that it is a fucking great noise and that the guys (and gal) in ADII obv. thought so as they slathered it all over their recordings, 1971-72.

... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:52 (three years ago) Permalink

Speaking of which, I'm not sure what the keyboard is at the end of "Sleepwalkers' Timeless Bridge" on "Wolf City", I assumed that was the Choir Organ too but whatever it is it's mindblowing.

... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:55 (three years ago) Permalink

Yes that's like my favorite keyboard sound ever. I just want that track isolated and looped FOREVER.

Brocktoon Tanuki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:58 (three years ago) Permalink

the higher registers of the choir-organ sound on the aguirre tracks are chilling

the all man brothers (clouds), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 03:51 (three years ago) Permalink

i was just thinking i should explore embryo. what's the deal with their mal waldron connection?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 05:51 (three years ago) Permalink

They did a cover version of a composition of his ("Call") on their first (least jazz, most rock) album, then did it again later on another album, this time with Waldron playing on the track. I assume Waldron was living in Germany (or at least Europe) at the time? Actually I think Christian Burchard (the main guy in Embryo) played with Waldron pre-Embryo. I'm not much of a jazz rock fan but I like some of their stuff.

... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 12:30 (three years ago) Permalink

first haboob album is on youtube. choir organ makes an entrance about 90 seconds into the first track. I'm only three minutes in, and yeah this record's completely messed up.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 17:21 (three years ago) Permalink

in a good way?

the all man brothers (clouds), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:15 (three years ago) Permalink

definitely for me. typical krautrock freakouts & processing overkill, but coming more from R&B / soul than rock. not lifechanging but if you're into both AD2 and Funkadelic.

the choir organ is a mystery!

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:19 (three years ago) Permalink

oh, i'm mad on ADII at the moment; can't get enough of yeti and wolf city.

the all man brothers (clouds), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:27 (three years ago) Permalink

high five

mattresslessness, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:37 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Soul Jazz to release collection of Popol Vuh rarities

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=27777

Ottbot jr (NickB), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 11:27 (three years ago) Permalink

Sweet.

Peas Be Upon Ham (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:05 (three years ago) Permalink

Ooh!! Excited!

groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:54 (three years ago) Permalink

Nice! Haven't seen that doc before, sounds heavy.

tylerw, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:07 (three years ago) Permalink

this will warrant the purchase of a new glass pipe

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 14:18 (three years ago) Permalink

Whoa. God damn. This is terrific news!

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 15:51 (three years ago) Permalink

super surprised + excited by this!

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 15:53 (three years ago) Permalink

will buy

some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:02 (three years ago) Permalink

coolness. i have those spirit of peace tracks (unrelated to the album of that name) appended to my cd copy of hosianna mantra, would anyone know what era they're from? cause no details in cd booklet.

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 19:57 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

in other news, Nosferatu 2-LP reissue via Wah Wah in August
my PV google alert has finally paid off (a little bit)
http://exclaim.ca/Music/article/popol_vuhs_nosferatu_gets_deluxe_vinyl_reissue

that kailash/spirit of peace thing is released next week right?

groundless round (La Lechera), Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:21 (three years ago) Permalink

That's what I heard, but there's been very little info that I've seen. I think it's finally up on Soul Jazz's page as a pre-order, but I was hoping some US distros would be carrying it.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:46 (three years ago) Permalink

has this been mentioned? oh, yes, 2 months ago. appears to be out now.

http://boomkat.com/downloads/1215604-popol-vuh-soul-jazz-records-presents-popol-vuh-kailash-pilgrimage-to-the-throne-of-gods-piano-recordings

koogs, Monday, 16 March 2015 11:08 (three years ago) Permalink

is this normal? for two reissue labels to both release dueling versions of the same title?
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3336124/waxwork-announces-definitive-vinyl-release-nosferatu-vampyre/

Just a few days ago, we reported that Wah Wah Records was working on a remastered vinyl soundtrack to the 1979 German art-house vampire film Nosferatu The Vampyre, which was directed by Werner Herzog. Now official word has come down that Waxwork Records is also creating their own definitive release of the soundtrack and this one sounds like the ultimate edition for collectors.

Waxwork states that they have been, “…working with Florian Fricke’s (Popol Vuh’s founder) family for many months to create a definitive LP release of the score,” and that, “…it’s shaping up to be an incredible release and we are beyond excited, kinda in shock, that it is happening.”

Waxwork also tells us that this will be the first of many Herzog/Popol Vuh collaborations that will be coming to vinyl. While no specific details have been released, we’re told that details announced in the near future.

Waxwork’s edition will be an expanded double LP version with artwork by Jessica Seamans of LandLand. The album drops on April 17th and the street date is in May 25th. A full track list can be seen below.

groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:01 (three years ago) Permalink

haha, as if popol vuh's catalogue isn't confusing enough. "expanded" sounds like the one I want to get though.

tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2015 15:06 (three years ago) Permalink

they're both expanded!

groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:26 (three years ago) Permalink

i am excited that they're promising more
i want LT-LN and i want daniel fichelscher to show up in my google alerts

groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:28 (three years ago) Permalink

alive and well and ready to give me some pointers

groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:28 (three years ago) Permalink

the Solaris soundtrack did a similar thing last year.

http://boomkat.com/vinyl/772562-edward-artemiev-solaris-original-soundtrack
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/803396-eduard-artemiev-solaris-original-soundtrack-superior-viaduct-edition

there was also a third, on the same label as the first, with a different focus

http://boomkat.com/vinyl/787678-edward-artemiev-solaris-music-from-the-motion-picture

koogs, Monday, 16 March 2015 15:33 (three years ago) Permalink

ha that foreshadows some classic popol/popul spelling issues

groundless round (La Lechera), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:35 (three years ago) Permalink

Spent a while trying to find definitive 'Stalker' sdtrk, to no avail.

Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Monday, 16 March 2015 15:36 (three years ago) Permalink

review of the new thing over on pfork: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/20242-kailash/
gotta get this

tylerw, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:33 (three years ago) Permalink

so what's the deal with Waxwork? Good sound quality/pressing quality? Their Phase IV release is vinyl and soundcloud only, apparently, which gives me a sadness-- I'd like to pay money for a high quality MP3 version instead of being stuck with the low bitrate version I had to use a plugin to download off soundcloud.

a date with density (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 March 2015 16:38 (three years ago) Permalink

The dueling Nosferatus remind me of the separate reissues of HNAS's Im Schatten Der Möhre that both appeared in 2002. I picked up Heemann's Streamline edition too early and missed out on the bonus tracks on the Dom version. Meh.

doug watson, Monday, 16 March 2015 17:20 (three years ago) Permalink

haha ILXmail me if you want that, I snapped them all up

sleeve, Monday, 16 March 2015 18:59 (three years ago) Permalink

the year of the vuh is upon us

http://exclaim.ca/Music/article/popol_vuh_treated_to_new_batch_of_vinyl_reissues

groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 14:54 (three years ago) Permalink

my first wish listed above has been granted
aleluia!

groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 14:57 (three years ago) Permalink

kind of excited about these reissues, but I fear they will cost like $37 each

Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:33 (three years ago) Permalink

aw come on, those Wah Wah LPs were only like $28 ;)

sleeve, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:43 (three years ago) Permalink

at least this time i can avoid making 1000 phone calls to the record store about it
that's something

groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:53 (three years ago) Permalink

happy vuh year

kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:26 (three years ago) Permalink

i see what vuh did there

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:30 (three years ago) Permalink

been into agape agape and sei still wisse ich bin quite a bit lately -- the versions i have downloaded of both sound like cassette tape rips and the wobbly sound adds to the overall weird occult hieratic recorded-in-an-enormous-cave-ness

dudem, (clouds), Sunday, 29 March 2015 08:22 (three years ago) Permalink

I've never found his and Enzo Franchini's A Sacred Homage to Florian Fricket, but Valerio Cosi's latest is pretty easy to find and to hear. Hit or miss, I think. But pretty novel.

http://valeriocosi.bandcamp.com/album/plays-popol-vuh

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:02 (three years ago) Permalink

Fricke*

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:02 (three years ago) Permalink

Don't worry I think we know who you meant!

Bees and the Law (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:09 (three years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

For years and years and years I was looking for the Djong Yun "Du sollst lieben"/"Ave Maria" single. Thanks to that Wah Wah reissue of Hosianna Mantra, I finally got the chance to hear "Du sollst lieben." Maybe not as good to hear it as it had been to imagine hearing it, but I'm a better and more complete person for finally seeing what was up. Well, I still periodically look around to see if any OGs show up. Before the reissue, I can't even imagine how much money one would've been. To this day, I've never found one. And I didn't know, until today, that this existed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Popol-Vuh-Djong-Yun-Ave-Maria-CDep-Japan-Mini-LP-cd-florian-flicke-tangerine-Q-/371285535547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item567257ab3b

That is a CD version of the single. One of the Japanese mini-LP deals. Stunned to find it. Two songs. $110. In 2015. The repress is easily found. I guess I'm just really glad I never had to spring for the 7" by selling a few of my internal organs. Fuck.

winnebago taco, Sunday, 19 April 2015 21:03 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Is there some site that comprehensively cross-references Popol Vuh tracks? Some of the stuff on the second disc of Kailash sounds really familiar, but I can't remember where I've heard it before. There was a previously released version of "The Garden Morya" (the one with chanting) where a terrible beat comes in (maybe on City Raga?) – is this raw material that was later remixed by Guido Hieronymous?

Also confused about all the versions of "Spirit of Peace" – the version on the Celestial Harmonies In the Gardens of the Pharao is two minutes longer than the Kailash version.

with hidden noise, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 00:27 (three years ago) Permalink

There are what sound like slowed down renditions of "Aguirre" on disc 2

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 00:28 (three years ago) Permalink

finally got the kailash thing on soul jazz -- totally great. only bummer is the diginoise that seems to be happening on the first disc's mahayana ... is that just the recording? or is it some flaw... too bad, totally lovely track otherwise.
haven't watched the DVD yet!

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:25 (three years ago) Permalink

i need to buy that!! i've been slacking on my PV fanship

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:30 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm glad i shelled out for it... sending me on a popol vuh bender now.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:38 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJNnKdzgW1I

I got to walk up this very trail last week! I had my headphones, but I forgot to load up Aguirre before I left so I had to settle for Seligpreisung.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:24 (three years ago) Permalink

whoa that must've been awesome! pics?
i think that is my favorite scene in any movie.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:26 (three years ago) Permalink

Unbearably dreamy, what a life!!

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:30 (three years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/vfQ79vm.jpg

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:51 (three years ago) Permalink

that's so great. I really wanted to see the cloud forest side of Peru when I was there, but never had time.

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:53 (three years ago) Permalink

so nice!

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:53 (three years ago) Permalink

From the left, from the entrance of Machu Picchu with Huayna Picchu peeking out of the clouds, then just past the Huayna entrance gate (match with around the 2:00 mark of that video), and finally about 1/3-1/2 way up the trail looking down on Machu Picchu. I ascended in a very dreamy state. To make it to the Huayna Picchu gate by seven am, you have to wake up around four in the morning. It was just like in the movie, all wreathed in roiling mists and lush foliage. Just getting there, even with the trains and buses, is physically taxing enough to strip away a lot of your psyche. The ascent is ~1,000 feet in one mile of distance, from about 7,900ft up to 8,900ft. I listened to music all the way up.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:03 (three years ago) Permalink

are you on the Inca Trail? sure sounds like it!

what I noticed there was how clear the sounds are from the valley below

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:10 (three years ago) Permalink

Nah, one of my traveling companions has a bad back and wasn't up for the Inca Trail. We took the train from Cusco into Aguas Calientes. The Irish pub in Cusco had Aguirre and Fitzcarraldo posters in it!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:14 (three years ago) Permalink

Sounds awesome. I'd be happy to give you more Sacred Valley travel tips over here:

TITTW sleeve goes to Peru

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:32 (three years ago) Permalink

oh hey, that was your thread! unfortunately I'm back home in Texas now, but I read through that with great interest the other night : )

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:46 (three years ago) Permalink

Loving this revive

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 22:28 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, you guys got me daydreaming

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 10:51 (three years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHK8oWVUkAAijKD.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:20 (three years ago) Permalink

what exactly is happening in that photo? is that their recording studio?

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:35 (three years ago) Permalink

heh heh, it's a picture of Can

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:37 (three years ago) Permalink

ooh great news

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:39 (three years ago) Permalink

haha that's what i thought
cmon people

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:39 (three years ago) Permalink

some light in the attic intern is getting his ass handed to him right now!!!
but seriously it is good news - if they're distro-ing, the vuh reissues might be easier to find.

tylerw, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:41 (three years ago) Permalink

looks like they brought a beehive to the practice space

clouds, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:41 (three years ago) Permalink

Crazy German longhairs all look the same, amirite?

Willibald Pirckheimers Briefwechsel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:42 (three years ago) Permalink

Contact mic on an apiary, that's an old stockhausen trick cmon guys. Zzzzzzzzzzz

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 22:46 (three years ago) Permalink

Foreground: a shirtless, ripped Djong Yun

Jim Gillette's unused octave (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:17 (three years ago) Permalink

to be fair, that pic does come up if you GIS Popol Vuh Band, and it is misattributed in the link as being Can

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:33 (three years ago) Permalink

https://mousique.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/de-krautrock-archieven/

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:33 (three years ago) Permalink

heh heh, it's a picture of Can

― tylerw, Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:37 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i THOUGHT that was damo, but it's kind of small on my monitor

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:35 (three years ago) Permalink

i saw that popul vuh werner herzog soundtracks box set for cheap a few years ago and i really regret not snapping it up

shit makes me feel immortal

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:36 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

i was just googling around to see when/if that big batch of reissues was released yet and i found this, which sounds almost exactly like "in deine hande" from LT-LN
what other greek music sounds like this??!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSXxrLcSV4

(for comparison)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko-sShP-TA4

La Lechera, Monday, 7 September 2015 13:57 (two years ago) Permalink

Thank you for Nikos Xylouris! Listening to Youtubes now.

Also: "Psaronikos is a nickname as it is customary for people in Anogeia to have. His grandfather was Psarantonis. His grandfather kept company with a group of five or six men who stole from the Turks. As he was the fastest runner in the group, when they met with Turks he was running very fast and he could catch all of them as if they were fish. So, first he was given the name Fishturk (Greek: 'Ψαρότουρκος') and then the nickname Psarantonis. That is how all family male members after him were nicknamed Psaronikos, Psarogiorgis, Psarantonis etc."

List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Monday, 7 September 2015 21:50 (two years ago) Permalink

(xp) I see what you mean!

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 7 September 2015 22:29 (two years ago) Permalink

ok two things:

1) the video interview with d fichelscher has been removed from youtube afaict; that was the closest i had gotten to knowing that he was still alive and well. my google alerts for him haven't produced much beyond news of upcoming reissues. does anyone know how to confirm that he is alive and well? i feel like this thread is more of a global hub of PV fans than i'm likely to find elsewhere, so why not ask.

2) what's up with those reissues anyway? waxworks was all excited about them, but i haven't seen anything since. i checked last week and just that instagram post came up. am i missing something? LT-LN is about to turn 40 next year :)

La Lechera, Saturday, 19 September 2015 18:53 (two years ago) Permalink

Hasn't he been playing with Amon Duul II recently?
He's mentioned here anyway : http://www.amonduul.de/main.html
WARNING website is Flash hell that will start playing music when it loads

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 19 September 2015 20:06 (two years ago) Permalink

ok well that's good news
i guess they only play european festivals?
also that is truly a hellish website

La Lechera, Saturday, 19 September 2015 20:45 (two years ago) Permalink

Yes, panic over, he seems to be playing with the current line-up...

https://gerhardemmerkunst.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/amon-dc3bcc3bcl-ii-milla-mc3bcnchen-2015-06-10-15.jpg

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 September 2015 22:21 (two years ago) Permalink

months ago i preordered the wah wah reissue of nosferatu because 1) i couldn't resist and 2) there is bonus material that i don't have
and it arrived today!! i am not into packaging but since i paid a zillion dollars for this, i'm glad that the posters (there are 2) are pretty cool (not just pics of the band, esp the ones i've seen a zillion times) and the LPs themselves are red

so excited!! no more weekly emails from phil at norman records about my order. i'll probably not miss deleting those too much but they continued to give me hope that the day would arrive when i could finally cradle my wampyr record
today!

La Lechera, Monday, 28 September 2015 23:05 (two years ago) Permalink

looks like light in the attic is distro-ing the wah wah reissues, so they should be easier to get now?
http://lightintheattic.net/releases?all_labels=false&label_list%5B%5D=176
still pricey, but...

tylerw, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:37 (two years ago) Permalink

thanks for the heads up!

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 19:56 (two years ago) Permalink

New reissues are all in at Fusetron, in case anybody was wondering. $31/32 for everything but the Nosferatu double, which is $45.

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 03:09 (two years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

i still wonder what daniel f is doing right now, like at various points in the day.

this was posted on fb today -- is it same as the bootleg that was posted here a while ago? I am not on the same computer and don't remember what was on the other one. anyway, a good day is one that has a popol vuh surprise in it

i think it sounds like the same recording though fwiw

https://youtu.be/Kyi2KHZKYIQ

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:39 (two years ago) Permalink

FYI

This is a soundboard recording of a live performance in 1973, probably late summer or early fall, in the church in Baumberg in Germany (which accounts for the beautiful natural reverb).
My guess is that this is just Daniel Fichelscher on guitar and Florian Fricke on keyboards and vocal (and may be the first recording of Fichelscher as a member of Popol Vuh - he would become co-partner with Fricke for all subsequent Popol Vuh albums. Vocalist Djong Yun did not sing here, because she was away in America at the time. Fricke's dissatisfaction with his vocals - heard here and on the studio album from 1973, "Seligpreisung" - would prompt him to later add another vocalist, Renate Knaup, whom he met through Fichelscher (both Fichelscher and Knaup had been members of Amon Duul II).

Tracklist: (all are extended versions of the following pieces from their 1973 album "Seligpreisung"):
00:00 Weinen und Lachen
04:55 Hungern und Dursten
11:59 Hungern und Dursten (2nd take)
17:48 Willig Arm
20:47 Leid Klagen

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:41 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah think that's the same thing (minus the interview that was on the mp3 download)...

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 17:48 (two years ago) Permalink

I wonder where this person got their Fichelscher info or if it's pure speculation

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 18:17 (two years ago) Permalink

aw, I love the vocals on Seligpreisung!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:05 (two years ago) Permalink

I feel like that album could be dubbed onto a Peanuts TV special and work really well.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:08 (two years ago) Permalink

btw yes that is the same bootleg referenced earlier in the thread

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:09 (two years ago) Permalink

as noted by JoeStork on another thread, there's a lot more Popol Vuh on Spotify now

Brad C., Friday, 22 July 2016 19:32 (two years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
four months pass...

2 new reissues today! Agape-Agape (one of my favorites) and Spirit of Peace iirc (which I don't remember)
I guess Light in the Attic is handling US distribution -- is there any reason I should not give them a small portion of money in exchange for this fine recording?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:33 (one year ago) Permalink

I got the (green!) Cobra Verde soundtrack. It's nice but I'm not sure I need another version of Agnus Dei (j/k, i do)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Always thought "Agape-Agape" suffered from lacklustre production, maybe this reissue will spruce it up a bit. "Spirit of Peace" is the last good one... no, hold on, "Cobra Verde" is after that and is good too.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:45 (one year ago) Permalink

xps I have heard some second hand griping about LITA not paying people, but that wouldn't stop me from buying something on the label (at least not yet).

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 17:47 (one year ago) Permalink

every reissue makes me hope that maybe this will bring Daniel Fichelscher out of the shadows. he's only 64?!?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:08 (one year ago) Permalink

and Djong Yun too for that matter
is she still in North Korea?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:09 (one year ago) Permalink

She's in North Korea? Why?

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:15 (one year ago) Permalink

I think she was taking care of family or something? I read she was in Pyongyang :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Insane details of Djong Yun's father's life here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isang_Yun

Daniel Fichelscher's been playing with Amon Duul II again recently, no?

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 May 2017 12:48 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

somehow really getting into this band after many years. and THANK YOU Dadaismus for the reviews upthread. I wish ILM was still like that

Dominique, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Having gone no further than their first three albums, "Vuh" from In den Gärten Pharaos is the only track that truly awed me. Is any of their subsequent work similar to it?

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:35 (one year ago) Permalink

just about everything past In den Gärten Pharaos sounds nothing like it.

new noise, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:40 (one year ago) Permalink

xp
nothing like it really -- they didn't find the sound they're known for until after that record. Blissful, psychedelic new age folk music? try the title track of Brüder Des Schattens for a good idea of their thing

Dominique, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Hosianna Mantra didn't do it for me, but given my love of 1970's ECM I should probably keep going. As a side note, Florian Fricke was briefly part of the same jazz trio as then-double-bassist Manfred Eicher.

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Now that is an interesting fact!

or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 2 June 2017 00:08 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/Nr9ZCm8.png

Perhaps more suited to a Roy Montgomery thread, but here's a photo from atop Temple IV in Guatemala, where I listened to bits of Seligspreisung last week. Some Popul Vuh seemed appropriate since I was in the heart of Maya territory. Luckily it got cloudy and rainy while I was up there, because otherwise the punishing sun and heat do not make for an atmosphere conducive to listening to extended jams. Although the place itself is pretty overwhelming even without a soundtrack.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:38 (one year ago) Permalink

You'd think I'd spell the band name right by now... Popol Vuh that is.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:40 (one year ago) Permalink

how to live!!
so
beautiful

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:50 (one year ago) Permalink

that sounds amazing

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 02:05 (one year ago) Permalink

well done

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 3 July 2017 12:27 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm glad it's of interest! I'd offer more cool pictures of my Popol Vuh tourism, but a day or so after I took this picture I accidentally dropped my phone in the sea, so this Instagram pic is all that remains.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Poetic! Much as fricke threw his moog into the ocean after the 2nd album

You must now take all your photos acoustically

or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:19 (one year ago) Permalink

I thought he sold it to Klaus Schulze? Not very poetic, I know.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Monday, 3 July 2017 20:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Let history record that when I dived into the Caribbean to retrieve my phone, my hands searched the ocean floor in the midnight waters for an hour and twenty minutes, the phone sparking and popping while it played Schulze's "Moondawn" in its entirety, heard properly for the first time, although that is not what happened.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 3 July 2017 23:29 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

What exactly is this thing? Looks like a greatest hits, but seems to be a unique recording. (Related also to this compilation, both titled in such a way as to be most impossible to find.) Seems to have been done (if Discogs can be believed) just before Guido Hieronymous came on board? How much other stuff is out there?

with hidden noise, Monday, 2 October 2017 12:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

I always assumed it was a best of compiled by his son. If it’s NOT just a best of I’d like to know about it

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 2 October 2017 12:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

The first one looks like a straight compilation, judging by track timings, though I suppose they could be remixes. The second, may be retitled tracks, remixes, don't know tbh.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 2 October 2017 12:51 (nine months ago) Permalink

This is one of those bands, like Tangerine Dream, whose soundtracks are essential, and yet whose official soundtrack releases are inconsistent and/or incomplete. Right?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2017 12:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

Kind of. Heart of Glass + Nosferatu would be hard to improve on as albums but they are far from being straightforward score releases. Aguirre is kind of just an album that happens to be named Aguirre with a couple things from the film and mostly other stuff. Fitzcarraldo is like a traditional late 70s early 80s ost pretty much. Some vuh from the movie and some diegetic music heard in the movie. I still don’t have cobra verde!

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

Heart of Glass is my favorite as an album

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

There's actually more music from Letzte Tage in the film than from the 'soundtrack album'.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

Liner notes for 70s Progressives can be read here (the reliable populvuh.nl), which claim it was recorded in 1979. My confusion comes from the writeup at Discogs:

This CD comprises alternate recordings of Popol Vuh 1970s works. Although not exactly stated on the release, this material was recorded at Bavaria Studio, Munich, 1990 reuniting many old Popol Vuh members (but in a line-up that never actually existed before). Tracks 1, 3, 4 & 10 previously appeared on the Popol Vuh - Florian Fricke compilation. All the other tracks are previously unreleased.

If you look at the history (might need to be logged into Discogs to see that?), there's some back and forth about what this is. Maybe that's just Discogs people making things up? Not seeing an actual source for the idea that it was re-recorded.

with hidden noise, Monday, 2 October 2017 13:41 (nine months ago) Permalink

Weird. Are those the sessions at which some of
The alt versions on Sing For Song Drives Away the Wolves were done?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, 2 October 2017 13:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Just wanted to let y'all know that Die Erde und Ich Sind Eins, which was teased an eternity ago, was finally reissued on Wah Wah. I never saw an official announcement and it doesn't seem to me like Wah Wah has an official online presence, anymore, so I have no idea when it actually dropped. But it's available both online and in stores. Or at Reckless in Chicago, anyway.

winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 01:27 (eight months ago) Permalink

you don't say! which reckless location?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 October 2017 03:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

I saw one at the Milwaukee shop, but the webstore tells me that Broadway is also carrying. Was $35, so it might be cheaper to purchase online. Further digging suggests that Light in the Attic had copies in May, but that they're all long-gone. Ever since Kailash, they seem to have at least some hand in (or on, as it were) Vuh-related reissues.

winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

Comes with a 50-page Fricke manifesto of some kind! 500 copies pressed.

winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think LITA are just US distributors for Wah Wah? not totally sure

sleeve, Saturday, 28 October 2017 16:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

Comes with a 50-page Fricke manifesto of some kind! 500 copies pressed.
whoa this is sort of worth the price! the other wah wah PV reissues all came with the same essays and poster, which was kind of disappointing. i have read those essays and seen those photos plenty of times now.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

I didn't know that, actually. I already had all of the SPV CDs and was pretty short on bread, at the time, so I only picked up a few of those. I assumed that each subsequent batch had a different set of liners or something.

winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

FYI it's in German:

Also includes the 50 page booklet 'Das Alphabet des Körpers' (in German) that Fricke wrote and relates closely to the release. It was not included in the original release and only received a very limited publication later by Florian Fricke's widow Bettina. This release also includes two inserts: firstly, a 12" x 12" sheet with liner notes by Dolf Mulder (in English) and three black & white photos; and secondly, a 12" x 24" one sided, high quality stiff paper insert with drawings & notes by Fricke relating to the album.

sleeve, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

some pissed off Discogs reviews referencing that booklet, also covers w/o glue

sleeve, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

At any rate, I just grabbed a copy off of Discogs for $25. Looking forward to reading as much as listening; should be a good chance to brush up on my shitty German skills. But I've been looking for a copy of this record for like twelve years (even the CD, which NEVER shows up, would've done), so I'm definitely looking forward to listening. My tiny-sounding mp3s are pretty well-worn, by now.

winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

At least I can work on translating the German. I'll never forget buying Ya Ho Wha 13's massive God and Hair box and not having any way to tackle the extensive and entirely Japanese liners. I survived, but it was kinda depressing.

winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

But I was fine with the (terrible) German verse which Roedelius's wife read during a performance, a few weeks ago. So at least I've got a chance!

winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

damn I never knew that about the Ya Ho Wha box, that is disappointing

there's a great Vinyl On Demand box set (German Punk And Wave) with all-German liners, but the label at least put out a pdf translation

sleeve, Saturday, 28 October 2017 18:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

Well, this has probably got something to do with it. Some musical/singing/breathing therapy stuff.

http://www.popolvuh.nl/d/archafa1995

winnebago taco, Saturday, 28 October 2017 21:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

taco i was at that roedelius show too! i wonder if i already know you?!?
i loled when he rhymed "nature" with "creature"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 October 2017 21:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

The German-language verse was just as silly. It was the equivalent of "I saw you on the train/And our eyes, they met/You've since been on my brain/Do you have a pet?" But I doubt we know one another. I think I know like three people irl who know who Roedelius is, and none of them were in attendance.

winnebago taco, Sunday, 29 October 2017 01:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

But if you ever see some dude who looks like he's just dying to talk about the Vuh, by all means give him/me a shout!

winnebago taco, Sunday, 29 October 2017 01:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

I was at Lands End National Park in San Francisco last weekend, where it was a beautiful sunny day and I listened to Einsjäger & Siebenjäger on my headphones amongst the cypress trees.

I guess it's not really from that album originally, but Wo Bist Du? is an all-time great rambling tune, it makes any straight path into a labyrinth that pleases and soothes a troubled mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bguDZdGj9gI

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 03:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

you are a person who knows how to live, f hazel!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wow, that is a great track. And it's not on my earlier CD issue of E&S (damn!) so I'll need to find a copy of the expanded remaster.

doug watson, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 13:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wah Wah for the win there, nice of them to add those two tracks to the vinyl reissue

sleeve, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 16:54 (eight months ago) Permalink

xp that track was originally released on their "Die Nacht Der Seele" album.

is the version that was added to E&S a different recording?

new noise, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 17:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

haha, I was thinking "LL would approve of this choice" when I decided what to listen to! Last night I was lying on picnic bench in a state park in Arkansas looking up at the stars through towering pines and shivering, but I was listening to Music for the Age of Miracles by the Clientele. It wasn't a Popol Vuh moment.

As for Wo Bist Du? the bonus track on the E&S SPV CD (the one I have) is identical to the one on Die Nacht Der Seele, as far as I can tell. Why it ended up as a bonus track on E&S I cannot fathom.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 27 November 2017 01:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

i was having religious / sacred kinds of feelings listening to hosianna mantra while driving through the mojave over the weekend. i think it just repeated 4-5 times because i couldn't think of anything else i wanted to listen to.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:31 (five months ago) Permalink

that sounds dreamy

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 1 February 2018 13:37 (five months ago) Permalink

See America by Popol Vuh!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:33 (five months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

The music wasn't very loud, the worst noise pollution came from the back of the hall where they were selling cans of beer - lots of popping, clanking and fizzing. Problem solved by moving nearer the front!

― Matt #2, Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:52 (eight years ago)

Hahaha.

I went to this. Probably a very crappy idea to begin with but the 'bar' was just one of the cuntiest things possible in the circumstances. In the same (reverberant) room as we were supposed be quietly listening to this music (In Den Gärten Pharaos) the guy was literally tossing bottles into a bin of other bottles.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:12 (one month ago) Permalink

ha i was just reading this thread earlier today, been listening to a bunch of the 70s albums this week

marcos, Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:16 (one month ago) Permalink

good move

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 May 2018 21:57 (one month ago) Permalink

has this been posted before? new to me: https://sanjindumisic.com/florian-fricke-1981-interview-by-sandy-robertson/

tylerw, Friday, 1 June 2018 21:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Great interview!

I love his explanation of the band's name:

"It describes the music," says Florian. "The good soul of the good person, the feeling. Like now people call themselves the B52s and you know what the music will be like".

Presumably he was thinking about Cold War bombers rather than beehive wigs

Brad C., Saturday, 2 June 2018 00:21 (one month ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/KQjcriu.gif

my secret travelogue for popol vuh fans part 4: listening to Im Garten des Ruhe, a bonus track from Die Nacht der Seele, on the 148th-floor outside observation deck of the Burj Khalifa. we stayed late until everyone else left and lay along the glass looking at the city fade into unlit desert

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 9 June 2018 21:50 (one month ago) Permalink

best travelogue, never stop!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 10 June 2018 05:44 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

heard "aguirre 1" playing between sets at a show recently
i looked around to see who else noticed and saw nothing :-/
(this doesn't mean no one noticed, just that PV fans don't tend to emote publicly, lol)

this is the second time i've heard PV between sets at a show. last time was probably about 8 years ago.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

You mean no-one punched the air and went, "Well, awwllllriiiiight!!!"

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

aside from me, no

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ha i think i would have given a big smile. "aguirre!!"

marcos, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the correct reaction is to pull a plush toy monkey out of your bag, and then loudly recite the soliloquy at the end of Aguirre about how you're going to marry your daughter and found the purest dynasty the world has ever seen, then shout WHO IS WITH ME

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the worst possible ending to that would be that it was not actually a song from Aguirre and was actually from Nosferatu and you have to crawl away and change your props real quick

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Lol

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

now i am second guessing which track it was but seriously, i knew within a few notes WHO it was and that is what mattered to me

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 16:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the correct reaction is to pull a plush toy monkey out of your bag, and then loudly recite the soliloquy at the end of Aguirre about how you're going to marry your daughter and found the purest dynasty the world has ever seen, then shout WHO IS WITH ME

all of a sudden I can see this as DJT's next SOTU speech

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 19:52 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i put on Einsjäger & Siebenjäger at the bookstore where i work this morning, my boss came in and asked what jam band it was - "the Dead?" - i told him it was a German guy who did the soundtracks for Werner Herzog's movies and he said "keep it up" lol.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

lol yes my wife has also mistaken PV albums for the Dead

sleeve, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 20:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

more than just one guy!!
still active in my quest to get fichelscher the respect he deserves

i do see some upsetting similarities between klaus kinski & DJT now that i think about it

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

respect for the distinctive PV sound of the albums he was on, i mean
djong yun too
i wonder if she is still in north korea?!!?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I made a painting of Djong Yun once but it turned out so badly I threw it away. I must attempt again one day.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Speaking of Daniel Fichelscher, is there actually any difference at all between Morgengruss on E&S and Moregengruss II on Aguirre?

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

idk -- i would have to listen to them side by side and am not prepared to do that atm
report back and tell us!

that's such a good song they put it on 2 albums just in case

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 21:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yes, the second has more, or different at least, (electric) lead guitar on it, it's not as good.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 22:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

it sounds to me like no, but all I did was sync them up and let them play, if the latter has an electric lead it might just be overpowering the former

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 22:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the backing tracks seem identical tho

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 22:28 (two weeks ago) Permalink

playing along with that song is one of life's small joys

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 03:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Der Ruf from Herz aus Glas is also great Fichelscher, would be OK with like a 29-minute version of it

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 05:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the guitar tone make it sound like a song off the Real Ramona

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 05:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh yeah herz aus glas could have every song extended to lp side length and I’d be happy

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i still haven't been able to find that interview that used to be on youtube -- the one where fichelscher is basically talking to the camera and he tells the story of how he brought his bongos to a music festival as a teen and joined amon duul II. it was the closest i have come to learning more about the popol vuh history/sound/process than i have found anywhere else and i can't find it!

one thing that stuck with me was when he picked up his guitar and just started noodling a little -- that's when i realized that what i loved about PV was at least 50% (prob more) fichelscher.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 13:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

is that the one where he's shirtless and the interview pauses so he can go get cigarettes?

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yes, he's absolutely not what you might expect someone in Popol Vuh to be like, he's a kind of rock 'n' roll dude.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I was telling someone about that DF interview / monologue recently and trawled back through this thread to find out when it first appeared. I think he must have taken it down himself? Dude needs to get a memoir out there IIRC.

Is he still playing with ADII?

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

last i heard he was still playing with ADII -- i have a google alert for him so i am aware of any developments and i can't say much has come through

i would like to meet/converse with him more than any other living person of that place/time (now that Jaki is gone :( )
would also enjoy a convo with irmin but i do have the can book so that's something

the info on fichelscher is so scanty -- i want him to know that there are people out here who care! so he can spill while he is still with us!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 02:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Where is he living? If I find myself in Berlin this Christmas I'll look for him

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 5 July 2018 03:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

he must live somewhere in europe -- i know ADII has toured around europe and played festivals and whatnot but i don't think they have made an appearance in the states/this continent that i am aware of
look him up! send him to me!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 03:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm sure he's not that old btw, I think he was a teenager when he joined ADII, so hopefully he'll be with us for a while yet.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 07:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

He started young:

http://www.popolvuh.nl/d/files/DF_15.jpg

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 July 2018 07:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

listen folks no one lives forever and i have been on this quest for some time

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Where is he living? If I find myself in Berlin this Christmas I'll look for him

i have been living in berlin for the last 8 years and haven't met him yet. btw i have met quite a lot of "VIPs" on the road here.
http://www.popolvuh.nl/d/files/df%20dm_0.jpg

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:16 (one week ago) Permalink

How can that be Berlin? The grass is cut.

Evan, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:23 (one week ago) Permalink

why am I wasting my life in America sitting inside, wearing vests with shirts under them?

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Actually I suppose that is the Englischer Garten in Munich as afaik Amon Düül II are still located there. The next gig is the Finkenbach festival on August, 10th, so if you really want to see Danny, you should go there.Finkenbach is also called the Woodstock in the Odenwald. It is about one hour by car South of Frankfurt/Main.
http://www.finki-festival.de/finki_programm.html

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:02 (one week ago) Permalink

gah! I'll be over there, but not until December probably. bet he'll be wearing a shirt then!

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:08 (one week ago) Permalink

Crazy name, crazy guy.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 17:08 (one week ago) Permalink

it looks like he has about 6 arms in that photo!

i can't zip on over to munich until i get my passport renewed and i doubt that is going to happen with such short notice (it's not)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 20:38 (one week ago) Permalink

what other of their stuff sounds like this? anything in particular

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boDIzneIIfE

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Well there's basically 18 minutes of that track on the second side of the "Spirit of Peace" album.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:24 (one week ago) Permalink

love the sound of that

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Also "Brüder des Schattens – Söhne des Lichts" and "Die Nacht der Seele" albums.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:32 (one week ago) Permalink

also there's probably a lot of roy montgomery albums you would enjoy

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 21:47 (one week ago) Permalink

i’ve dabbled in him but didnt find anything i really loved right off the bat like this. i like the syncopated guitar parts and the trance-like feel. i’m all ears for recommendations though!

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 22:23 (one week ago) Permalink

I think the music on side two of Spirit of Peace IS King Minos II

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 July 2018 00:10 (one week ago) Permalink

it definitely is- more layers and stuff obviously. love it

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 12 July 2018 01:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Same track yes, if not the same recording, which is why putting it as a bonus track on "Einsjager" and calling it "King Minos II" makes no sense.

Alan Alba (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2018 07:48 (one week ago) Permalink


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