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...I've only got a minute soundbite of this (available to anyone who wants it if you email me).... but it sounds fucking atrocious.

There's a toe curling rap on there, and once again, she's using Mirwais... so we get more squelchy synths and vocoders.

You'd have thought she'd have learned her lesson with that Bond theme......

The artwork looks pretty good for a change, though.

― russ t, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

But that Bond theme was the best single she'd put out in five years.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

whilst I thought Music and the associated singles were all a pile of wank, Die another Day, I thought, was her weakest single since 'Gambler'. Awful song, awful remixes. And it just wasn't a Bond theme...... when I heard she was doing a Bond theme, I imagined it to be in the vein of I Want You, her collaboration with Massive Attack (IMO her best record by miles).
Die another Day - it was a great video, though.

― russ t, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:12 (twenty-three years ago)

But that Bond theme was the best single she'd put out in five years.

What Dan said. Therefore this new single must be genius.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Caution focus group spoiler but I liked this comment and it needs quoting re. Russ' post.

"If sci-fi filmmakers of the 1960s had dared to suggest that Bond movies were still being made in the twenty-first century, they would probably also have filled the theme music with space noises and robot voices."

i.e. yes it is a Bond theme.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

I like that quote, where's it from?

It may not be the song so much, it's the Mirwais production I findhard on the ears. Sounds dated already. I was hoping she'd have moved on from him this time.

― russ t, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

It's from the Freaky Trigger Pop Music Focus Group VII Russ - published this Saturday on a website near you!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

But Tom, the Bond series has become an anachronism, so shouldn't the theme song be so as well?

That Bond single couldn't get over itself, yuck.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:21 (twenty-three years ago)

if the bond series theme song wanted to be anachronistic, then they'd all be soundtracked by the propellerheads and then we'd have to kill ourselves

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

i dont think you can call Mirwais dated really* - the stuff he's been doing the last 3 years no-one else has really done to the same level in pop, with the possible exception of Fischerspooner (*unless you accept that sounding 'dated' is part of the plan)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i want to hear the Jacques Lu Cont produced stuff for Madonna. didnt she reject material produced for her by Brian Transeau too or am i thinking of someone else?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought that "Die Another Day" worked really well in the context of the movie - the psychology of torture soundtrack. Also, Mirwais rules. Go have sex to "Disco Science" (nb - do not try with Fischerspooner songs).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I find it interesting that Madonna sounds more typically 80s now than she did in 1984. Anyway, a good thing for sure. :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

and what's the new single called?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)

"It's Okay To Wear High Heels Whilst Doing Yoga Now"

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20030311/i/1047418255.3556843573.jpg

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:25 (twenty-three years ago)

So I heard "American Life" today... The backing track's fairly interesting electro, but the lyrics are among the worse I've ever heard. And Madge: YOU CAN'T RAP!!!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:01 (twenty-three years ago)

i fear it

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

the lyrics and delivery make debbie harry on "rapture" sound like krs-one

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 22:24 (twenty-three years ago)

A friend just wrote me this about the song: It just struck me that the rhythm of Madonna's "flow" (if that's what you want to call it) exactly the same as Gerardo's in the first, Spanish part of "Rico Suave."

Also, does Madonna even consider herself American?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

The rap bit's the only bit I like. It sounds like she's trying to see how bad a first single from an album she can put out and still get to Number 1 - the bar was fairly low already when she foisted "Music" but this is just something else.

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Yanc3y's friend is OTM.

I guess I'm not bored with these production tricks. I liked and still like Music but then again I'm a girl who grew up in the 80s/90s so I have a high Madonna tolerance. Objectively, this could be the beginning of a dud period for Maddy or it could all work out fine. I do think parts of the song are really nice and I just today got it stuck in my head; always a sign...

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 00:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i liked Madonna when she was Noo Yoik trash tryna act all sofistacated. this tea-guzzling grouse-shooting electropop quintagenarian doesnt go down quite as well...(insert gag here>

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 00:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Madonna could release a 3LP set of armpit farts and I'd probably still buy it. Fortunately, "American Life" is much better than that.

― paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 05:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Yanc3y.... Debbie Harry's rap on Rapture is just...... bliss. A seminal moment. A seminal record, too.And how far ahead of their game were Blondie? When was Rapture? 1979 - 1980?!?!?!

The only thing I like about this whole American Life project of Madsonna's so far is the album cover (which is fantastic) - at last she seems to have roped in a decent designer. For a lady who apparently collects art and has a ...err.... high appreciation of it.... why are her record covers always so nasty and tatty?

― russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 10:50 (twenty-three years ago)

the prob with Harry's rap 'on 'Rapture' wasnt never so much the delivery (cute) as what she said, hysterically bad lyrics!

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:13 (twenty-three years ago)

As compared to

"Breaks to win and breaks to lose, but these here breaks will rock your shoes!"

"You're in a place where the nights are hot, where nature's children dance and set a chance."

"I said a hip hop, the hippie the hippie to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop, the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie, to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat."

Blaming old skool for bad lyrics is like blaming AC/DC for making the same song over and over.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Is there anywhere I can dl this from the web?

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 11:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Certainly.

http://www.toto691.co.uk/Madonna_American_Life_192.mp3

Set your standards VERY low and maybe you won't be disappointed.

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:08 (twenty-three years ago)

come on now Tuomas, none of your examples can compare to the true horror of:

Fab Five Freddie told me everybody's high
DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind
Flash is fast, Flash is cool
Francois sez fas, Flashe' no do
And you don't stop, sure shot
Go out to the parking lot
And you get in your car and you drive real far
And you drive all night and then you see a light
And it comes right down and lands on the ground
And out comes a man from Mars
And you try to run but he's got a gun
And he shoots you dead and he eats your head
And then you're in the man from Mars
You go out at night, eatin' cars
You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
Mercurys and Subarus
And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars
Then, when there's no more cars
You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet
Face to face, dance cheek to cheek
One to one, man to man
Dance toe to toe
Don't move to slow, 'cause the man from Mars
Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars
Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall
He's gonna eat 'em all
Rapture, be pure
Take a tour, through the sewer
Don't strain your brain, paint a train
You'll be singin' in the rain
I said don't stop, do punk rock

Well now you see what you wanna be
Just have your party on TV
'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars when the TV's on
And now he's gone back up to space
Where he won't have a hassle with the human race
And you hip-hop, and you don't stop
Just blast off, sure shot
'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars
And now he only eats guitars, get up!

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I know I ask this every time but my friend continually informs me and swears blind that Lu Cont is going to be producing some of Madonna's new stuff.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I like this. Reminds me of Supertramp.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:20 (twenty-three years ago)

The rap on here is better than most of her lyrics.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Are those the original Blondie lyrics? They're fuckin' hilarious! How could blame anyone for such a brilliant wordplay?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Add a "you" there...

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:26 (twenty-three years ago)

DJ's spinnin' are savin' my mind

i think this bit is wrong, i'm sure she says 'DJs spinnin I said 'my my'

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I said don't stop, do punk rock

ahem ahem "do THE punk rock"

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I love the Rapture lyric.
What a time that must've been in NYC.... Warhol, Harry, MelleMel, Basquiat....
Stevem- I think it's 'my my', too.

― russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:48 (twenty-three years ago)

"do THE punk rock"

Dance crazes that never quite made it, part 86: PUNK ROCK!

"A one, and a two,
that's how you do,
the PUNK ROCK,
don't you dare to stop!"

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)

the 'Rapture' rap is loveable and has great kitsch value but its the ultimate in lyrical naffness for me

and yeh Russ, you had block parties in the Bronx bopping to The Clash and Kraftwerk - sounds amazing

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 12:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Thanks edward. My standards are very low anyway.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 13:08 (twenty-three years ago)

"Rapture" is one of the greatest singles ever.

The link above to the Madonna track doesn't work, and all the p2p sources I've tried have resulted in a loop of what seems like Madonna's voice saying "what the fuck are you trying to do?"

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)

It worked for me Sean - maybe it's been taken down :(

(It's not very good but the rap is great!)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)

After 3 listens, the chorus sort of creeps up on you.
Sort of like a deadly fungus.

― russ t, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Sean I will email it to you if that's yr correct addy.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Still haven't heard it. But how I hate that stringy, wrinkly old crone - I will do my damnedest to make sure I dislike everything she ever releases from this moment forth

― j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 16:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Teeny: yes please! Thank you!

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

fyi, anyone who hasn't heard the single yet can stream it from here:

http://www.hmv.com/servlet/HMVApp/Registration.StartUp/createSessionId?ct=pd&sku=352697

it's kinda dire

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:30 (twenty-three years ago)

On its way, Sean...

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

oh except yahoo mail bounced it because it was too large. If you're still interested, tell me a better address (at my bust.com addy if you like). sorry for the thread derail, everyone.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Sean - do you use filepile. There's a copy up on there - search for 'american life 192'. If you don't then say and I'll email my password details.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:57 (twenty-three years ago)

30 seconds in and it's FUCKING FANTASTIC.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay, once again Madonna has taken the "Music" template and done something far, far superior with it. The rap section is fantastic, but fortunately the rest of the song is, too. The acoustic guitar break is ULTRA-CLASSIC, and the 303 filter tricks are just great; it's like they recorded most of the song just using Rebirth.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:10 (twenty-three years ago)

JENNY FROM THE BLOCK EAT YOUR HEART OUT, YOU TALENTLESS (prettyprettypretty) COW

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:13 (twenty-three years ago)

it sounds like a bonus round

i hate it

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I honestly thought the entire single sounded like a bad joke, and I've liked all of the other recent Madonna singles.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I fail to see how sounding like a bonus round is a bad thing.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Absolutely laughable. But the rap is classic - I wish that part could be longer.

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay, once again Madonna has taken the "Music" template and done something far, far superior with it.

Not that hard to do, admittedly.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I DO YOGA AND PILATES, THIS ROOM IS FULLA HAWTIES'

lyric of the year

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:02 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry dan you're right on

half of my record collection sounds like a bonus round

rephrase:

it sounds like it was composed with My First Keyboard

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

That still makes it sounds cool, though! And this single is just rub.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:06 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah you're right

okay:

it sounds like a bonus round done on a My First Keyboard except it's rub

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:09 (twenty-three years ago)

OK on second listening I think it might be brilliant.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:35 (twenty-three years ago)

It must be the Carter fan part of you that likes it, it does have a "Sheriff Fatman" quality to it.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Which is the same thing as saying it's crap.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Ha Tom, I figured that out in one listen! (The second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth listens were mere confirmation wrapped in scary obsession.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 20:15 (twenty-three years ago)

That's just sad.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 20:17 (twenty-three years ago)

So
I went into a bar
Looking for sympathy
A little company
I tried to find a friend
It's more easily said
It's always been the same
This type of modern life
Is not for me

This is like a vintage Morrissey lyric; imagine if Madonna had written "How Soon Is Now?". Juxtaposing this bleakness with the part where she talks about how she's living the American dream with her honey, then completely nods to Prince, then jumps straight into her "Fuck J-Lo" rap... absolute genius.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I haven't heard this yet but...

...can someone pretty please forcibly air-drop Monsieur Mirwais into a small rural Texas town so he can get his eyes gouged out and his hands cut off by a parade of French wine bottle-smashing hoodlums since he has almost singularly destroyed my Madonna-lurve and made the last three years excrutiatingly difficult for my worship of the former Great Goddess of popular culture? Please S'IL VOUS-PLAIT ppplease?

WHERE THE FUCK IS PATRICK LEONARD???????????????

― Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Noooooo! Mirwais has made Madge all bizarre and excellent!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 21:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Also, there's a part near the end of her rap where she sounds like a cross between Da Brat and Miss Jade.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 21:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Madonna's "American Life" vs. TMBG's "I'm Sick of This American Life"

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 28 March 2003 21:16 (twenty-three years ago)

(hint: the Madonna song's better)

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 28 March 2003 21:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd think that would be true almost by definition, JBR.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 March 2003 22:37 (twenty-three years ago)

ever HBO sunday night theme song so far has suuuuuuuuuckt and this ain't no exception

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 00:59 (twenty-three years ago)

"American Life" vs. "American Pie"

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 00:59 (twenty-three years ago)

when I first heard Madonna's "Music" (which initially sounded like a bass drum and Madonna saying the word "music" over it while cackling at strippers) I went through the most depressed three days of my life, and truly believed civilization was at an end.

But I like the song now (I think the extreme intake of cough syrup had something to do with my initial reaction to "Music"), so I'm hopeful that this song (which sounds FRIGHTENING) won't drive my to leap off something.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:02 (twenty-three years ago)

it reminds me of the new Malkmus

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:07 (twenty-three years ago)

When icons hit middle age, then?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:38 (twenty-three years ago)

when icons dick around on guitar

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:46 (twenty-three years ago)

plus Malkmus is heavy into yoga now also

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 29 March 2003 01:48 (twenty-three years ago)

The most 80s nostalgia single EVER. The Brett Easton Ellis revival begins HERE (or with Mary Harron really I guess).

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 29 March 2003 02:04 (twenty-three years ago)

The Brett Easton Ellis revival begins HERE

Needs more cocaine.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 March 2003 02:47 (twenty-three years ago)

on one hearing this is my favourite madonna single ever

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 30 March 2003 12:48 (twenty-three years ago)

THe Bret Easton Ellis revival began two years ago, in my living room, you fools.

I can't find the Madonna track for download anywhere, I just keep finding fakes. Who te hell does stuff like that? That's a sad life.

I can kind of do that thing she does in that picture, except I never tried with heels, I think I will do that today at the gym. The heels I mean.

― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 30 March 2003 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)

This is one of the worst songs I've ever heard in my life.

― Evan (Evan), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

''on one hearing this is my favourite madonna single ever''

ha! I bet you haven't even heard the thing.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)

It kind of is her best single ever.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I am going to have to download it and give it another listen, because I did not get anything at all out of it the first (and only) time I heard it.

― Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 30 March 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

someone stole ilm's ears!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 31 March 2003 00:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I downloaded it and still haven't listened to it, so Yanc3y is totally right.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 31 March 2003 02:21 (twenty-three years ago)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030401/ap_on_en_mu/war_madonna_video_5

She's pulled the video. Wimp.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Seriously, what a way to throw any pretense to artistic integrity out the window.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

"artistic integrity" is a pretty way of saying "I'm a self-absorbed asshole".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:05 (twenty-three years ago)

The video sounds like the best Madonna video ever, too!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...

Did that Focus Group ever get published?

― TMFTML (TMFTML), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

nine years pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=qxLn_v7z3fk

― H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

Some of those minor/major things work great. That one just sounds like a cassette that was left in the sun.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 04:39 (thirteen years ago)

five years pass...

"In the teaser, Madonna describes Madame X as “a dancer, a professor, a head of state, a housekeeper, an equestrian, a prisoner, a student, a mother, a child, a teacher, a nun, a singer, a saint, a whore,” and “a spy in the house of love.”"

― Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:30 (seven years ago)

Madame X - she's been all of us

― Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:30 (seven years ago)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BZGJlOTk0MTYtZGU2OS00MDc4LTg2MGUtYzRjYmNlNjNkOTYzXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzA2MzYwOTg@._V1_.jpg

― Tim F, Sunday, 14 April 2019 23:44 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PtBzdiZ3g

Madame X:

01 Medellín [ft. Maluma]
02 Dark Ballet
03 God Control
04 Future [ft. Quavo]
05 Batuka
06 Killers Who Are Partying
07 Crave [ft. Swae Lee]
08 Crazy
09 Come Alive
10 Faz Gostoso [ft. Anitta]
11 Bitch I’m Loca [ft. Maluma]
12 I Don’t Search I Find
13 I Rise

― petey v, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:41 (seven years ago)

must say i am intrigued by "killers who are partying"

― petey v, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:45 (seven years ago)

same but "dark ballet"

single is both trend-hopping and deeply weird, but it's probably the first time i've been more intrigued than indifferent toward a lead madonna single since.... "hung up"? this is no "hung up" but

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:10 (seven years ago)

Y'all enjoy. This is v bad.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:34 (seven years ago)

it was also produced by mirwais which is extremely weird to me

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:35 (seven years ago)

appears that a lot of the album has been produced by mirwais.

― mark e, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:11 (seven years ago)

Madonna finally relents and works with a prior collaborator and she chooses Mirwais?

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:19 (seven years ago)

Didn't she try working with William Orbit again and it didn't work out?

Not really feeling the new single. There's a nice breezy feel to the verses but the chorus feels clumsy and the song is two minutes too long. It's definitely stronger than her last few leads but that really isn't saying much.

― kitchen person, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:21 (seven years ago)

i mean i'd say the majority of stuff she made with mirwais was good

of course i wish it were stuart price, alas xp

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 18:22 (seven years ago)

Hung Up is prob my favourite single of the 2000s so that’s a high bar.

This is a bit dull but it’s curious enough to pique interest about the album. I don’t mind Mirwais. “Nobody’s Perfect” remains incredible.

― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:32 (seven years ago)

i said it was no "hung up"! it absolutely isn't, i haven't even decided if i like it lol

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 19:39 (seven years ago)

OK, kids, let's see what's got you hopped up.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:10 (seven years ago)

I'll say her Spanish is pretty decent. That's the best thing I can say about the track.

― daavid, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:33 (seven years ago)

^^^ fair reaction

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:37 (seven years ago)

Me and the newly-out lodger were just dancing round the kitchen to this, and we've decided we like it. Extra points for the Usha Uthup reference, too. https://youtu.be/k8f5Itra2Wo

― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:39 (seven years ago)

time to dig out that Mirwais album then I guess.
and, to be fair while driving home, when the song came on the radio (Sara Cox R2 : EXCLUSIVE build up etc), it was rather enjoyable ..

― mark e, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 20:56 (seven years ago)

too funny. will never intentionally listen again.

― dyl, Thursday, 18 April 2019 02:14 (seven years ago)

I listened to it four times in a row, hoping I could dig anything out of it. I couldn't. How many times is too many times to still give Madonna the benefit of the doubt?

Then I thought, young people don't give one fuck about Madonna. And her older fans just listen to Lady Gaga now instead. She's in an interzone desperately attempting to stay on-trend when she could probably do something else with far more success.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2019 04:14 (seven years ago)

And her older fans just listen to Lady Gaga now instead.

i'm not sure this is accurate

― dyl, Thursday, 18 April 2019 04:47 (seven years ago)

Me neither; I know an “older” Madonna megafan who cares little for Gaga (despite my recent attempts to get him into Joanne).

That said, I’m not sure how much he cares about “new” Madonna, either...

― get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 18 April 2019 05:02 (seven years ago)

I'm talking about moms and shit who probably still buy cd's, but a couple a year. Not us (although I now listen to way more Gaga than anything Madonna is making).

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 April 2019 11:51 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

wtf @ "Dark Ballet"

― Jeff W, Saturday, 8 June 2019 15:21 (seven years ago)

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uagw4zser8

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 June 2019 15:31 (seven years ago)

oh i guess it makes sense she worked with Mirwais on this because this is just as bizarre as "American Life"

― ufo, Saturday, 8 June 2019 15:52 (seven years ago)

the album's credits have fewer collaborators since the Stuart Price days. We'll see if it works.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 June 2019 16:05 (seven years ago)

ILM has never been more wrong than in the first hundred or so posts to this thread.

― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 8 June 2019 16:52 (seven years ago)

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