A.R. Kane C/D and S/D

Also, much beautiful ambientish stuff. Like whisked, frothier Cocteau Twins minus Liz Frazer.

69 - lots of dubby noise-pop, faint Mary Chain influence (there was more on their first few EPs, which I actually prefer, especially Up!)

"i" - sequenced space-pop, still with lots of odd guitar textures but much catchier, my favourite of their records.

Sea To A Child - 'reformation' LP from 1994, I actually think it's very pretty in a new-agey way but most people seemed to slate it

They were doing the masses of swirled guitar and feedback some years before MBV and their ilk. I remember their insistence in interviews that they never listened to the Mary Chain or *any* pop music -- only jazz and reggae. I think Alex (1/2 of the duo) later fessed up that this was a fib - they actually loved listening to pop!

Check all their stuff (including the "Listen Up!" EP under an alias I've just forgotten), even their last one: "New Clear Child" . And Alex's solo stuff is ok, too. Available on www.idealize.com -I think that's the correct URL. At work so can't check at the moment.

And Alex's solo stuff is ok, too. Available on www.idealize.com -I think that's the correct URL.

S: The "Up Home!" EP, "69" and "i" (esp "Catch My Drift").
D: The "Love Sick" EP.

This thread reminds me that 1988 is now FIFTEEN years ago and that I am no longer a youth. Gah.

CD80 'portable' A.R. Kane go!

When You're Sad
Lolita
Sado-Masochism Is a Must
Baby Milk Snatcher (Up Home! vers.)
One Way Mirror
Up
Green Hazed Daze
Crazy Blue
Suicide Kiss
A Love From Outer Space
What's All This Then?
Snow Joke
Miles Apart
Pop
Spook
Supervixens
Anitina

(77:39)

(their finest moment, you know.)

is that dub mix on the purple remix 'i' disc?

am i the ONLY one who likes new clear child?

-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyl...), April 8th, 2004.

I don't *mind* it but...

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), April 8th, 2004.

i think i listen to it the most these days

-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyl...), April 8th, 2004.

I am listening to New Clear Child for the first time in a long while and I have to say it's the first time I've ever heard it and really flat out enjoyed it. Very interesting. Also interesting is the fact that I'm convinced that Gus Gus's sample of Kool and the Gang for "Believe" was either inspired by its use on this album for "Cool as Moons" or is in fact just a sample of "Cool as Moons" directly!

A.R. Kane don't really belong to that continuum of noisy stuff - they're much more post-Cocteau Twins, contemporaries of Kitchens of Distinctions, precursors to Disco Inferno and Bark Psychosis... the idea is "noise" as in not typical sounds frequently used in music, rather than "noise" as in loud, enveloping, annihilating.

x-post X 2!
I remember being confused by i as well, expecting something much heavier and more abstract. But it grew on me inordinately quickly - it's not just a case of the outwardly superficial pop songs concealing hidden depths, everything within the songs is simultaneously light and deep, accomodating and disconcerting... but the deep/disconcerting qualities can perhaps only be perceived as such once you've internalised the songs. I think I initially thought, "only the last quarter is any good"; then it became "only the last third...", then "only the second half...", then etc. etc.

Assuming you're talking about The Jesus and Mary Chain, MBV, Sonic Youth etc (as opposed to all-caps noise), I have to disagree on two points. First, their early work (see the first half of my 'portable' mix above) is very clearly a part of that same continuum, drawing very directly from their immediate precursors. I agree that they went somewhere else, but many of those same groups did likewise (the Mary Chain first perhaps with Automatic). Your last sentence I think perhaps overly simplifies the post-rock landscape into 'those who would use sampling to make new random noise bursts' etc. Even a ostensibly throwback group like Loop (although they were maybe thinking of Pink Floyd) used that same approach on things like "Shot With a Diamond" or the earlier "Thief (Motherf*cker)", and of course Kevin Shields was forever sampling and rearranging his own sounds.

All that said, I'm probably just misunderstanding you!

Sorry Spencer I should have been clearer - as you say, it's not a case where bands like MBV, JAMC etc. didn't often create wondrous sounds, just that they usually did so in a very loud manner - such that "noise" has a double meaning in their work. Whereas with A.R. Kane from 69 onwards it mostly just has the one meaning (the only pre-69 track I have is "When Your Sad" - is the spelling mistake intentional BTW?).

Rumours etc:

http://www.myspace.com/arkaneuk

Hi

I have had a few early comms with the rights owners re the re-issue of some of the early A.R.Kane material (early singles from One Little Indian, 4AD and Rough Trade, and albums 69, 'i', and rem'i'xes EP).
So far it looks possible that there will be limited ed vinyl, CD and digital relaeses, maybe as box-sets.

As more info comes, I will let y'all know about it.

Best,

Rudy

Hope this sees the light of day, some of those EPs are the fucking tits.

Also, had never seen this before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRl2THJO_80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz5iEvo1PKU

Pretty much the eye-opening formative moment of my music life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1IuDyitqbE

On their Facebook page, Rudy is saying a spring release for a 2 CD singles comp...

good news!

Would it include M/A/R/R/S?

It looks like "Anitina" is in the running, but I'm not so concerned about it as it's been on CD numerous times. The early EPs have only been available on vinyl and I'm really excited about things like the EP version of "Baby Milk Snatcher" etc.

At long last:

http://www.factmag.com/2012/07/10/the-singles-of-lost-80s-legends-a-r-kanes-compiled/

excellent

The band, active in the 1980s and early 90s, have fallen out of fashion in the last two decades, and their name now means little to most people under the age of 30

ehh those who need to know know

stellar news

Hell, missed this thread revive. But I'm up for multiple ones! Great, great news.

I love these guys — I just wish I could find more of their damn records! The only two I've ever seen in shops (69 and Lolita) were purchased immediately.

I just pre-ordered this from amazon.co.uk. So excited to finally have a proper CD release of the EP version of "Baby Milk Snatcher"!!!

Yup yup. Great to see this just actually exist.

Can't wait for the Butterfly Child and Papa Sprain compilations.

... went on to form half of M/A/R/R/S and make the most influential sample / scratching based club track in UK history.

― phil jones (interstar), Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:44 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

apparently this is untrue. Think it may have only come out this year, looks like what was released by MARRS had very little involvement from them. Trying to think what magazine had the story in. Was it Uncut or something?

Does look like there was more input on unreleased material I f I'm remembering right.

They did the spacey guitar riffs, Colourbox did basically everything else. The proportionate contributions were reversed on the amazing b-side which hardly anyone remembers now.

Dave Dorrell & CJ Mackintosh also largely responsible for the A-side IIRC

apparently this is untrue. Think it may have only come out this year,

no, this was widely known within a few months - at most a year - of the single coming out.

Wonder if there's any chance of further remasters of the lps?

Surprised that I still haven't seen any live stuff up in the 5 years I've been torrenting. Think they were pretty decent when I saw them.

Did they stop playing live after Russell left?

Can't wait for the Butterfly Child and Papa Sprain compilations.

― djh, Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:52 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are these planned? Would love them if so. Trying to think who else sounded somewhat similar.

apparently this is the article you're referring to

http://onelittleindianrecords.tumblr.com/image/28054460478

didn't notice this before but it's funny how anitina was basically built using small variations from the "word up" snare template. rudy points out to janet's control in that article, so it makes total sense.

mmmm, this is the url

http://onelittleindianrecords.tumblr.com/image/28054460478

yup that'd be it then. Thought it was longer ago, but maybe the cover date month is out of sync somewhat.

Really surprised this band hasn't yet inspired levels of belated Talk Talk like devotion.

is that just 1 page or are the other 2 pages of that article linked too?

xpost Simon Reynolds was enthusing back in the day, put them in the same "oceanic" camp as TT , if I recall. Give it time ; )

Great scary scrapey guitars! If you can't get enough of this sort of thing. Thanks for the reminder, I've been eating this stuff up lately.

"69" is one of the best records ever. it made a great soundtrack to "the wasp factory" one winter.

otm. one of my favorite albums in all the world. haven't long been far from a copy during the last quarter-century.

Disc: 1
1. When You're Sad
2. Haunting
3. When You're Sad (long version)
4. Lollita
5. Sado-masochism Is A Must
6. Butterfly Collector
7. Anitina (The First Time I See She Dance)
8. Anitina (The First Time I See She Dance) (Re-Mix)
9. Baby Milk Snatcher
10. W.O.G.S.
11. One Way Mirror
12. Up
13. Green Hazed Daze
14. Sperm Travels Like Juggernaut
15. Is This Is?
16. Is This Dub?
Disc: 2
1. Pop (long version)
2. What's All This Then
3. Snow Joke
4. Pop (short version)
5. Crack Up (Album Mix)
6. Crack Up (Rythm Mix)
7. A Love From Outer Space (solar equinox mix)
8. A Love From Outer Space (lunar eclipse mix)
9. Sugarwings
10. A Love From Outer Space (venusian dub)
11. A Love From Outer Space (Album Version)
12. Sea Like a Child
13. Sea Like a Child (in the sky)
14. Water
15. Sea Like a Child (underwater) (radio mix)
16. Honey Be (For Stella) (Album version)
17. Honey Be (For Stella) (Club Mix)

wait, is Haunting So Far Away?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/sep/19/ar-kane-rudy-tambala

The music they made as AR Kane – blending dub, feedback, psychedelic dream-pop, house and free jazz – can still be heard in artists such as Radiohead, Four Tet, Animal Collective and Burial.

but don't hold it against them etc etc

Yes, "Haunting" is "So far away", though I always thought it was called "Haunted" which is how Simon Reynolds referred to it in "Blissed out". I've waited a long time for a comprehensive singles compilation, I'm counting the days now. That first disc is going to get a lot of play.

sweet! that's my favorite AR Kane song!

i just won a copy of the new compilation on AR Kane's Facebook page. Whooo! Glad I didn't pre-order it now.

Listening to this now. The point at which they discover dance music is like a light switching on - I could live without the pre-Anitina tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=tEtp80EQOgw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1IuDyitqbE

can't see any others offhand, were there more from the e.p.s era?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=tEtp80EQOgw

see if this works proper like

The things you learn:

http://www.self-titledmag.com/2012/10/01/premiere-mushy-a-r-kane-my-life-so-far/#more-28120

cor, indeed & blimey... got myself the wondrous complete singles collection, and waddya kno?! - "deep blue breath", their last alb's gorgeous opening track, isn't even on it! wasn't it a single?? un-kickingmyself-believable :(

(yeahyeahyeah, there's the list of songs upthread and everythung, b-b-but ...OH MAAAN!)

It wasnt a single but there was a rather good remix of it on one of those Volume compilation cds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9MH-o34TOg

yes

man I just bought the Complete Singles Collection not too long ago, loving it so much!

Loving i once you get over putting Love from Outer Space on repeat.

No campaign to get "Baby milk snatcher" to number one?

AR Kane slips under the radar yet again!

I enjoyed 'em live back in the old days when they played the old 930 Club in W. DC.

Lol is BMS an anti-Thatcher song?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/7932963/How-Margaret-Thatcher-became-known-as-Milk-Snatcher.html

And 25 years on, my celebration of <I>'i'</i>:

http://thequietus.com/articles/15633-a-r-kane-i-review

From their FB feed today -

And so ... after a brief hiatus of ... no, no that sounds crap and is a lie ...
So. After many years in life's wilderness of home and work and etc ... I have ... uh oh, that sounds really dumb!
OK.
Here we go.
Putting together some players and playing a gig this summer.
It will be A.R.Kane material.
It will be noisy. Mostly. And a bit quiet. In places.
Details to be confirmed almost soon.
How was that? Was that OK?

OMGWTF

whoa.

Yes

!!!!

http://i57.tinypic.com/28jbm02.png

At the moment seems like it's a Rudy-only venture. It's not AR Kane if there's no Alex involved.

he made a point to say it wasn't a reunion. . . but then he did say he'd been in contact with former AR Kane members. So sounds like he's doing it whether Alex will or not.

Meh

they prob heard the new young fathers album and thought they need to get in there.

I'm glad I got to see them back in the late 90s. It was the NewClear Child tour but they didn't hold back from getting their feedback on. Was glorious.

Oh man, I need to see this. Hope I can get a ticket.

imo "haunting" is the single best shoegaze

^I dont agree totally but Iits def way high up there!

fighting with my ex- about A.R. Kane kinda ruined them for me, but this news is monumental enough to merit an eyebrow raise from me at the very least

they played last weekend at the midi festival in france

here is the setlist...
https://twitter.com/InfoKane/status/625550537547755520

will be seeing them myself this saturday at supernormal. rudy said it might be their very last show, but who knows?

17 minutes of them live in a current incarnation with Rudy but no Alex, live at the primavera Sound at the start of this month
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=563752

The new album by The Invisible really reminds me of "A Love From Outer Space" in lots of ways.

any way to check that out without getting a Dimeadozen membership?

It wasn't that fantastic from hearing it once. A loud d'n'b-ish track and one more dreampoppy.

Ah yeah I'll pass.

btw I hate this band ever since I got in a fight with my ex- about them, shortly before we broke up

oh hmm, I see I have already mentioned this extremely interesting tidbit about myself upthread *shimmers and vanishes, like a radiant palace of ice in the desert melting back into the shadows of a mirage*

Lol whatever, I had a conversation with Michael B about "Sulliday" when we met up in Lansing, and ever since then I've had a new appreciation for that track, and for 69 as a whole, as a sustained surrealist masterpiece

what were the details of this fight

Was this ever posted? Classic era AR Kane live off a cassette : ))

http://killyourpetpuppy.co.uk/news/flux-annie-anxiety-tackhead-sound-system-dv-ar-kane-u-l-u-281186/

Holy crap I need this in my life. Thanks!

So in this song when he says "car-ar-pet" I'm strongly reminded of AR Kane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPT2QuCIOA

Reissue set entitled A. R. Kive has been reviewed in Uncut and The Wire, but it STILL doesn’t have a price or pre-order! It sounds like an eccentric box, too. The first 2 studio LPs and the Up Home! EP, but no Lollita or other material from the era. Weird all-around, which is par for the course with them

so the Rough Trade stuff but the early OLI or 4AD singles... rights issue no doubt

I’m glad it’s finally being reissued, but I’ll wait for more reviews to see if they’re comparable to the original releases.

just got a ticket for the London gig in September :D

Nice. So many AR Kane threads

AR Kane - 69 : classic or dud?

The Wire cover story has sent me through the catalogue. I knew “A Love From Outer Space” from the time, playing it on my college radio show. But the availability of their stuff in the US meant I never was able to truly appreciate their diversity and depth. Thanks to the miracle of streaming, being able to hear the complete catalogue in these is introducing to me just how truly great these guys are.