Korn: Classic Or Dud?

That claim is a steaming platter of freshly squeezed crap.

I always hated them, of course, but for lack of considering them more than anything else. I didn't have to consider them, because I was in middle school/high school. They're over now; I guess they were pretty good.

Then the second album came out and sounded just like the first, and then the 3rd, which sounded like the 1st & second, and the cycle continues.

The fact is, althought they came out as original, entertaining musicians, they never really evolved, which would be ok if there weren't so many blatent knock-offs. The surrounding sound-alike bands kinda diminished Korn's initial originality.

And then Feildy's Dreams came out and the shit hit the fan. Or was it that the fans bought that piece of shit? I dunno.

Korn: I really can't stand their stupid "I was an outcast... kindof... in highschool... which was like 10 years ago" lyrics. The "bobbing for apples" thing they do with their heads also annoys the crap out of me.

If you think the name is bad, the story of why they chose that name is much, much worse.

It's a little frustrating to me as a vocalist who is very influenced by rap music that they are often referred to as "rap/rock" even when I don't recall they've ever actually rapped in any of their songs. Like calling Talking Heads a 'metal' band or something. Eh, I'll get over it.

And yes, the story of their name is one of the most disgusting stories in the history of modern music. It might possibly trump the Charlie Parker whiskey/fried chicken/hooker story.

WOULD MAKE THEM SICK. FINALLY THEY DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GREAT BAND NAME! HE WROTE IT LIKE A CHILD WOULD. IT STUCK, AND NOW THEY ARE BIG."

Great...

And they're also one of these anger-based bands (Metallica, et al.)who are doomed to fail if they ever become successful. I mean, scream, bitch and whine about terror and tragedy, it hurts, i'm alone, blah blah blah... SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY! When you've got the cash money chart topping bling bling music videos, when you have fan clubs and your albums are featured in the K-mart circular, none of that shit is valid.

But I actually think Korn is pretty talented- the bassist and drummer are tight like spandex on sumo.

So the correct answer is neither classic nor dud.

It is too bad that Korn made more than two albums though.

If Korn are the Joy Division of Nu Metal, I guess that'd make Limp Bizkit....INTERPOL!!

or, you know, Crime and the City Solution, maybe. Whatev, Bev.

Oh damn, I hope not.

Rob Zombie/White Zombie have had a couple of singles that kill anything I have heard from Korn or Gimp Trisket. "More Human Than Human" is great. Of course, Rob Zombie is old as dirt and didn't make it until later and probably played in bands that covered Judas Priest.

System of a Down seems pretty respectable to me in comparison to the Korn/Bizquick axis.

whoever wrote that review must be hunted down and sterilized in the most unsanitary manner possible, while being forced to watch a cageful of hungry minks eat their just-severed genitalia.

haha "kron star marries pron star"

Hahahahahahahahaha. Parenth00d!!!

Just to add some balance to the positive aspects being discussed in relation to 'Korn'.

KDud.

god forbid they want to take care of their friends!!!

a mild soft spot for korn, and korn alone of the nu-metal pack

the two system albums could have made one semi-decent album, especially if daron hadn't insisted on doing most of the singing. I mean really, your singer has an amazingly powerful and distimctive voice, so you make him sing back-up to your nasal whining? what!? and I can really live without crap like 'lonely day' and those hollywood songs.

So, I guess they are gearing up for a world tour and holding auditions for a new bassist in Arizona.
They liked what they've heard from my brother's roomate so he was invited to go try out for them
If he gets in I could totally get free backstage passes I bet, omg
TS: upcoming Korn world tour vs upcoming Limp Bizkit world tour

actually, my mom told me the information wrong
it's Head the former Korn member who was auditioning for a band to go on tour with (with Mudvayne)
in any case, my brother's roommate is now his bassist
i'm finding this incredibly funny and absurd

Are you ready?

I'll have to put some pants on first.

i can't believe people actually defended Korn itt

http://decibelmagazine.com/Content.aspx?ncid=382635

lmao, god.

still like "freak on a leash" a lot though.

We give you...KORNSTEP:

Korn will release their tenth studio album, The Path of Totality, on December 6. The Path of Totality is unlike any previous Korn release; it's an experimental record which finds the band shifting gears and exploring new territory. For the record, Korn collaborated with some of the leading dubstep and electronic music producers in the world, including Skrillex, Excision, Datsik, Noisia, Kill the Noise, and 12th Planet. The result is something completely new, yet utterly and definitively Korn.

"The title The Path of Totality refers to the fact that in order to see the sun in a full solar eclipse, you must be in the exact right place in the exact right time," Korn frontman Jonathan Davis explained. "That's how this album came together. I think all the producers feel the same way. I'm not sure it could ever happen again."

The band's recent collaboration with dubstep's hottest producer, Skrillex, "Get Up!", was the surprise rock hit of the summer. The buzz started in Coachella's dance tent in April 2011, when Jonathan and guitarist James "Munky" Shaffer joined Skrillex on stage for a show-stealing, unannounced performance of the song. That generated what's become a deafening buzz. The track was a top 10 radio hit and has sold over 150,000 downloads, while the lyric video has generated nearly two million views and counting on YouTube.

Added Shaffer: "Get Up!" started as a bit of an experiment, but we had such an amazing response from our fans and had such a great time collaborating that a full album of tracks came together in a couple of months. We couldn't wait to get to the studio every day to finish the next song."

Some of the song titles from The Path of Totality are: "Narcissistic Cannibal" (a video for which was shot this week), "Burn the Obedient," "Illuminati," "Kill Mercy Within" and "Chaos Lives in Everything."

The album will be released in two configurations: as a standard 11-song CD and a special edition that will include bonus tracks, as well as a DVD of The Encounter, a full-length video concert of Korn's mind-blowing, once-in-a-lifetime performance in the middle of a 900-foot long crop circle in a wheat field in Bakersfield. The complete concert, previously seen last year on TV and online in abbreviated form, will be offered in its entirety to those who purchase the deluxe version.

Additionally, today Korn announced that the first leg of their "Path of Totality (P.O.T.)" tour will play key ballrooms and feature dubstep DJs Datsik and Downlink, as well as upstart Dutch Dub-rockers Dope D.O.D. Expect a groundbreaking experience unlike any other Korn tour.

Dutch Dub-rockers Dope D.O.D.

This actually might be my favorite part of the whole press release. I sense a theme.

i think i might actually not listen to this just because it can't live up to expectations.

distance will be upset he's not been invited. admits to having got into electronic music via korn. samples the band "snot" on his debut lp.

listening to the first album rn and it's >>>>>>

i also like issues idk

woke up one morning this week with Ball Tongue stuck in my head after literally never listening to them since high school

I always thought he was a decent Iron Chef judge.

the cover art on that first album is super creepy

I heard the debut again a couple of days ago for the first time in ages and I was impressed by how well it seems to have held up - they really said all they needed to say on that record and would probably be looked on far more fondly if it had been their only album.

Korn > Issues > Untouchables > Life is Peachy > Follow the Leader > Take a Look in the Mirror

^^^ agreed wholeheartedly

issues is a v good record

Issues seemed to be a bit of a breakthrough record for them here - it's strange, but I seem to know more people who got into Korn with that record, rather than the debut or even Follow the Leader(!)

falling away from me was always on mtv2 in the uk lol

Yeah, true! I don't really remember seeing many, if any, Korn videos on TV prior to 1999/2000.

i think maybe the impact of linkin park and limp bizkit, who had the first real HIT nu-metal albums in the uk in 2000, might have made it easier to sell nu-metal. i remember being 12 in 1996 and listening to korn, deftones, and limp bizkit and basically no-one in my school was into them or had even heard of them.

Fast forward to 2001 and I seem to remember seeing Issues and White Pony hoodies everywhere!

My first encounter with Korn was on some foreign TV channel in either '96 or '97, there was a bit of live footage with Davis being angry and playing bagpipes and I remember thinking "no way would this band ever become successful in the UK" ... when they did become successful here I was really surprised.

Looking back, the popularity of nu-metal in the UK from 1999-2002 was just a small part of what really was a resurgence in popularity of American alternative rock in general. There was Korn, Deftones, Slipknot, System of a Down, Limp Bizkit, Incubus, Linkin Park etc. but also there was renewed interest in pop-punk, grunge and Metallica were still very popular. Then later stuff like At the Drive-In etc.

just re-listened to the self-titled and life is peachy while working on a cover letter last night and the former is a lot better and holds up pretty ok.

jonathan davis' grumbling, muttley vocal routine sounds beyond ridiculous, and i have some issues with 5-string slap bass, but i like the guitar tones, drums, and the groove metal vibe

"Here to Stay" fucking rules. i love that record. can't believe that was a hit single in 2002. just sheer brutality

I keep forgetting how disco-tastic 'Got the Life' sounds!

Been listening to the first six Korn albums a lot recently and it's really amazing how much this stuff sold considering how difficult, ugly and dissonant some of their stuff is.

C'MOWWWWN!
IT'S ON!

just re-listened to the self-titled and life is peachy while working on a cover letter last night and the former is a lot better and holds up pretty ok.

jonathan davis' grumbling, muttley vocal routine sounds beyond ridiculous, and i have some issues with 5-string slap bass, but i like the guitar tones, drums, and the groove metal vibe

― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:15 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i didn't get this job. i blame korn

Did you accidentally mention that you feel like a freak on a leash? Most employers prefer you to be OK with that feeling.

evan i quite clearly posted that i listened to the self-titled and life is peachy. freak on a leash is on follow the leader!

Look, it's a feeling. Can't you chill and let me be free?

the s/t def holds up in some kind of way, relentless juvenilia of the lyrics aside. "need to" is a jam

the other korn album i still think is pretty good is issues, mostly bc i think they were right to abandon rap and they were writing their best hooks

apparently all i do in this thread is talk about how much i like issues

I remember recording the video to 'Falling Away from Me' on a VHS tape. I still think it's a good song.

I've not listened to the self-titled in *years*. I'd forgotten how awful the bass sounds. Faget is vile but still has a bleeding rawness about it.

If nothing else, it's made me want to listen to Acid Bath.

I remember recording the video to 'Falling Away from Me' on a VHS tape. I still think it's a good song.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:17 PM(yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I really love that ominous opening riff. I can hear the post-punk/new wave influences more in Korn's sound now than I could at the time.

WAKE THE FUCK UPPPP!
WAKE THE FUCK UPPPP!

the new single is... excellent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3v5yMF1hTs

sounds like a cut from the issues/untouchables era

also sounds way more like deftones than they ever have before

listened to follow the leader today for the first time in a few years. something about the duets feels really perfunctory and unfleshed out, i don't think i ever liked "children of the korn" or "cameltosis' when i was a kid, and "all in the family" is a complete abomination. but the rest of the record is p great! especially this v cool song buried in the second half

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RX_ZzbptoU

now i'm onto issues and this record is so obv their best, every song from "hey daddy" on is my favorite korn song

I was off the Korn train w/ Follow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujEph5vFwmc

still slaps

I was off the Korn train w/ Follow

― space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 10, 2019 6:02 PM (forty-two seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

this makes sense to me but... the hooks!!!!

"somebody someone" is an AMAZING song

What I remember most about this amazingly repugnant band is how effectively they utilized MTV (before they dropped the "Music") for publicizing them.
They had an incredible contest for allowing a rando to direct one of their videos (the guy chosen professed to hating them and loving Radiohead, to the
chagrin of their Tony Clifton look-alike scumbag manager) and they were also the subject of a True Life episode, where Fieldy (the one who assaulted a Spin
photographer for making him pose in a "gay" way with his bandmates) did dougnuts and defaced the front lawn of their Bakersfield high school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBQNIP4zFP4

this album might be... good?

As someone who's never really cared about them: it is!!

hell yeah

it's SO GOOD

Me, 1999: Hey, future me, what is the future like?

Me, 2019: The best rock albums are by Tool, Slipknot and Korn. The best movie is by Quentin Tarantino. And Wu-Tang Clan has two TV shows.

Me, 1999: Sick, is the Simpsons still on?

Me, 2019: Buddy, I have some good news and some bad news

i really appreciate how often it tries to remind me of issues while also often sounding way more like a meshuggah record

"h@rd3r" completely earns its title

I was totally ready to lazily post this to rolling worst but.....tbh it's goofy and committed and it's for a good cause. and also it tickles me whenever a huge artist makes a bandcamp page

https://kornofficial.bandcamp.com/track/the-devil-went-down-to-georgia-cover-song

does he sing it in his nasal voice

it's even goofier because yelawolf does most of the vox!

new album, requiem, in february. they've been on a roll so i'm stoked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aupnj1KpjCg

oh wow that song is very good as well

thinkin bout the drums on "porno creep"

then thinking about how david silveria’s drumming totally went to sleep when he was forced to play to a click on successive korn records

Whoa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQP3nP5PUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv7W3EFbVyk

all right i'm going to learn "porno creep"

i was listening to some korn multi-track stems for a ...project and was really surprised at all the little details that i had never noticed-- particularly the harmonies on the 'falling away from me' bridge. props to the band and producers

also crazy how terrible fieldy's bass is in isolation in comparison to how transcendent and iconic it becomes in context

fieldy's flicka flicka sproing walked so that brr brr deng could run

korn was one of the few major nu-metal bands that never had a dj so i personally think of fieldy as the dj, or at least as much a percussionist as a bassist

That drummer oozing Chad Smith vibes.

How come all these nu metal bands have ringing ska band snares? Is it to pop above the rumbling of all the drop C guitars?

I always have had a soft spot for these guys, feel a little bad for not keeping up from the late 00s onward

the bass is fascinating and this band’s sound is addictive, I could seriously listen to them just jam out on one chord for 20+ minutes

xxp the piccolo snare! always makes me think of 60s funk… and 311

their last one was pretty solid. some of the vocal tics that made them hard to bear back when are less in evidence. they have a thing & it's pretty cool when it hits

Korn should now be eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Think bout dat